Six days away from Andrew Luck's retirement party. Bear Down, bitches.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
Six days away from Andrew Luck's retirement party. Bear Down, bitches.
My prediction is that Luck will look extremely poised and confident throwing a bunch of six yard slants and curls and he will drive the Colts downfield for three long field goal drives and the Bears will win 27-9 and meatballs will wonder how the defense will stop Aaron Rodgers if they can't even keep a rookie from throwing for 200 yards (on 45 attempts).
GAME WEEK. BEAR DOWN.
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
Six days away from Andrew Luck's retirement party. Bear Down, bitches.
My prediction is that Luck will look extremely poised and confident throwing a bunch of six yard slants and curls and he will drive the Colts downfield for three long field goal drives and the Bears will win 27-9 and meatballs will wonder how the defense will stop Aaron Rodgers if they can't even keep a rookie from throwing for 200 yards (on 45 attempts).
GAME WEEK. BEAR DOWN.
31-13. An actual touchdown will get the meatballs stirred up to code red levels of butthurt. The defense will score once. One of our vaunted wideouts will drop a pass in the endzone. The running game will struggle at times. It will feel like a loss when you hear the local buttpuckerers break it down. And they will get thumped in Green Bay next Thursday, finish the season 12-4 and play for the NFC Championship.
Time to give a shit.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 09:07:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
Six days away from Andrew Luck's retirement party. Bear Down, bitches.
My prediction is that Luck will look extremely poised and confident throwing a bunch of six yard slants and curls and he will drive the Colts downfield for three long field goal drives and the Bears will win 27-9 and meatballs will wonder how the defense will stop Aaron Rodgers if they can't even keep a rookie from throwing for 200 yards (on 45 attempts).
GAME WEEK. BEAR DOWN.
31-13. An actual touchdown will get the meatballs stirred up to code red levels of butthurt. The defense will score once. One of our vaunted wideouts will drop a pass in the endzone. The running game will struggle at times. It will feel like a loss when you hear the local buttpuckerers break it down. And they will get thumped in Green Bay next Thursday, finish the season 12-4 and play for the NFC Championship.
Time to give a shit.
This actually (and SKO's prediction) sounds about right.
The bend don't break Bears defense is something everyone should be used to by now. I think Luck is going to be a decent QB and he'll complete some passes but I also wouldn't be shocked if he's a chalk outline by halftime.
And yeah - that week 2 at Green Bay under the lights thing? Good god - that scares the dickens out of me. We'll see how good the offense is because frankly the Bears should be able to put up points on GB; it's just a matter of stopping Rod Gers and not getting poopy pants over the Mystique. Not sure they can do that.
Quote from: Slaky on September 04, 2012, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 09:07:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
Six days away from Andrew Luck's retirement party. Bear Down, bitches.
My prediction is that Luck will look extremely poised and confident throwing a bunch of six yard slants and curls and he will drive the Colts downfield for three long field goal drives and the Bears will win 27-9 and meatballs will wonder how the defense will stop Aaron Rodgers if they can't even keep a rookie from throwing for 200 yards (on 45 attempts).
GAME WEEK. BEAR DOWN.
31-13. An actual touchdown will get the meatballs stirred up to code red levels of butthurt. The defense will score once. One of our vaunted wideouts will drop a pass in the endzone. The running game will struggle at times. It will feel like a loss when you hear the local buttpuckerers break it down. And they will get thumped in Green Bay next Thursday, finish the season 12-4 and play for the NFC Championship.
Time to give a shit.
This actually (and SKO's prediction) sounds about right.
The bend don't break Bears defense is something everyone should be used to by now. I think Luck is going to be a decent QB and he'll complete some passes but I also wouldn't be shocked if he's a chalk outline by halftime.
And yeah - that week 2 at Green Bay under the lights thing? Good god - that scares the dickens out of me. We'll see how good the offense is because frankly the Bears should be able to put up points on GB; it's just a matter of stopping Rod Gers and not getting poopy pants over the Mystique. Not sure they can do that.
If by "Mystique" you mean Jermichael Finley, then I agree with you. They don't have a single answer for that dude. The whole Lovie Two thing requires them to allow the opponent to dink and dunk up the field until they get greedy or fuck up and let Peanut knock their balls out for them. But when you put
that in the middle of the field, well, good luck.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 04, 2012, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 09:07:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
Six days away from Andrew Luck's retirement party. Bear Down, bitches.
My prediction is that Luck will look extremely poised and confident throwing a bunch of six yard slants and curls and he will drive the Colts downfield for three long field goal drives and the Bears will win 27-9 and meatballs will wonder how the defense will stop Aaron Rodgers if they can't even keep a rookie from throwing for 200 yards (on 45 attempts).
GAME WEEK. BEAR DOWN.
31-13. An actual touchdown will get the meatballs stirred up to code red levels of butthurt. The defense will score once. One of our vaunted wideouts will drop a pass in the endzone. The running game will struggle at times. It will feel like a loss when you hear the local buttpuckerers break it down. And they will get thumped in Green Bay next Thursday, finish the season 12-4 and play for the NFC Championship.
Time to give a shit.
This actually (and SKO's prediction) sounds about right.
The bend don't break Bears defense is something everyone should be used to by now. I think Luck is going to be a decent QB and he'll complete some passes but I also wouldn't be shocked if he's a chalk outline by halftime.
And yeah - that week 2 at Green Bay under the lights thing? Good god - that scares the dickens out of me. We'll see how good the offense is because frankly the Bears should be able to put up points on GB; it's just a matter of stopping Rod Gers and not getting poopy pants over the Mystique. Not sure they can do that.
If by "Mystique" you mean Jermichael Finley, then I agree with you. They don't have a single answer for that dude. The whole Lovie Two thing requires them to allow the opponent to dink and dunk up the field until they get greedy or fuck up and let Peanut knock their balls out for them. But when you put that in the middle of the field, well, good luck.
I'm hoping for once they'll catch Green Bay at the right time. Last year they met them post-Cutler injury and in Week 3 when Martz was still ignoring the run game and Brandon Meriweather was haunting the secondary. If the Bears finally have their shit together on offense then GB is vulnerable. Apex is also correct that Jermichael Finley is the key. I swear they keep the guy on the roster solely to shit all over Lovie's gameplan.
Bryant Mckinnie anyone?
Quote from: BH on September 04, 2012, 02:07:04 PM
Bryant Mckinnie anyone?
He's restructuring his deal to stay in Baltimore so he can avoid the shame of being kicked off of two teams for being too fat.
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2012, 02:35:53 PM
Quote from: BH on September 04, 2012, 02:07:04 PM
Bryant Mckinnie anyone?
He's restructuring his deal to stay in Baltimore so he can avoid the shame of being kicked off of two teams for being too fat.
Should we talk about his seminal moment in Bears History anyway? It's the same as Corey Wootten's.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2012, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2012, 02:35:53 PM
Quote from: BH on September 04, 2012, 02:07:04 PM
Bryant Mckinnie anyone?
He's restructuring his deal to stay in Baltimore so he can avoid the shame of being kicked off of two teams for being too fat.
Should we talk about his seminal moment in Bears History anyway? It's the same as Corey Wootten's.
That too.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/09/06/my-knee-will-never-be-the-same-again-brian-urlacher/
So this is what an NFL receiver looks like.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 09, 2012, 12:57:17 PM
So this is what an NFL receiver looks like.
I shut off the game in disgust after Cutler's pick six. The Bears are done.
The rest of this lost season will be dedicated to annoying Eli with DA CHICAGO ACCENT MY FRENTS.
Quote from: CT III on September 09, 2012, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 09, 2012, 12:57:17 PM
So this is what an NFL receiver looks like.
I shut off the game in disgust after Cutler's pick six. The Bears are done.
The rest of this lost season will be dedicated to annoying Eli with DA CHICAGO ACCENT MY FRENTS.
SO ANGRY.
Quote from: Eli on September 09, 2012, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 09, 2012, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 09, 2012, 12:57:17 PM
So this is what an NFL receiver looks like.
I shut off the game in disgust after Cutler's pick six. The Bears are done.
The rest of this lost season will be dedicated to annoying Eli with DA CHICAGO ACCENT MY FRENTS.
SO ANGRY.
CT lied. There's no way he turned off a game that featured the NFL debut of Coby Fleener.
FUCK THE TEACHERS STRIKE. I WANT TO WATCH MORE BEARS.
Quote from: flannj on September 09, 2012, 11:10:13 PM
FUCK THE TEACHERS STRIKE. I WANT TO WATCH MORE BEARS.
The guy with no cable TV says THI.
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Quote from: PANK! on September 09, 2012, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 09, 2012, 11:10:13 PM
FUCK THE TEACHERS STRIKE. I WANT TO WATCH MORE BEARS.
The guy with no cable TV says THI.
The game will be on My50 for non-cable people.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 09, 2012, 11:44:44 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 09, 2012, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 09, 2012, 11:10:13 PM
FUCK THE TEACHERS STRIKE. I WANT TO WATCH MORE BEARS.
The guy with no cable TV says THI.
The game will be on My50 for non-cable people.
Oh I am aware, but flannj's reference was to the usual 10:30 post-news Bearsgasm on the local channels being pre-empted by the teachers strike coverage.
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
Frankly, I only wrote my last post so I could see it in action. It's glorious.
Quote from: SKO on September 10, 2012, 08:25:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
Frankly, I only wrote my last post so I could see it in action. It's glorious.
Needs more Colts DB faceplant. But that's a nit not worth picking. I think Alshon Jeffery is a joy to behold and I might need to adjust my Hester projections. Slightly.
It doesn't appear that a new contract has gone to Matt Forte's head. He looked great yesterday.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 10, 2012, 09:25:58 AM
It doesn't appear that a new contract has gone to Matt Forte's head. He looked great yesterday.
DEY KNEEDED TOO PAY HIM HIS MONEY, MY FRENT.
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
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Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Some teams make plays like that every couple of weeks. And when they do, their fans have every reason to dance around like a moron in their underwear. The Bears have almost never been able to pull off something like that and make it look so smooth and effortless. It's a new day, motherfucker.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Some teams make plays like that every couple of weeks. And when they do, their fans have every reason to dance around like a moron in their underwear. The Bears have almost never been able to pull off something like that and make it look so smooth and effortless. It's a new day, motherfucker.
I do remember a Cutler-to-Olson connection in 2010 that made me happy in all the right places. Before that, what did we have? The best Bears QB this side of Luckman to the receiver poised for a breakout year against Minnesota in 2007? Shane Matthews to James Allen? Jim McMahon to McKinnon and Gault in the Humpdome?
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
The ball traveled some 60 yards in the air right over the top of a defender to the outstretched arms of a WR right in front of the back of the endzone. Glorious.
Quote from: Oleg on September 10, 2012, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
The ball traveled some 60 yards in the air right over the top of a defender to the outstretched arms of a WR right in front of the back of the endzone. Glorious.
I've got nothing to add. I just like to keep looking at this play.
I love that GIF
Quote from: Brownie on September 10, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Some teams make plays like that every couple of weeks. And when they do, their fans have every reason to dance around like a moron in their underwear. The Bears have almost never been able to pull off something like that and make it look so smooth and effortless. It's a new day, motherfucker.
I do remember a Cutler-to-Olson connection in 2010 that made me happy in all the right places. Before that, what did we have? The best Bears QB this side of Luckman to the receiver poised for a breakout year against Minnesota in 2007? Shane Matthews to James Allen? Jim McMahon to McKinnon and Gault in the Humpdome?
I'd say it was Jay's most impressive throw in a Bears uniform. He has had some long bombs (the 59 YD to Knox against Dallas, the 67 YDr to Knox in Minnesota in 2010, the Olsen TD against the Seahawks in the playoffs) but all of those, while impressive, were more your traditional lob variety deep ball. There still aren't many Bears QBs who could have made them, but putting it up and leading a receiver who has a fairly large lead on the corner is less impressive than firing a 60 yard dart over 2 defenders into your receivers outstretched hands in the back of the end zone. There are very few QBs who can make that throw.
I'd also argue that the throw to Olsen at the 4:46 mark here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHTD6UbTfxM) was one of his most impressive.
Before Jay, I can't really remember too many awesome throws that merited a fist pump for the throw itself. That goddamn pass from Griese to Hester required Griese to dip his weak shoulder so low to huff it down field that he came up with sod covering the GSH. Adrian Peterson pissed all over it on the next play, anyway.
Fuck Brian Griese.
Quote from: Brownie on September 10, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Some teams make plays like that every couple of weeks. And when they do, their fans have every reason to dance around like a moron in their underwear. The Bears have almost never been able to pull off something like that and make it look so smooth and effortless. It's a new day, motherfucker.
I do remember a Cutler-to-Olson connection in 2010 that made me happy in all the right places. Before that, what did we have? The best Bears QB this side of Luckman to the receiver poised for a breakout year against Minnesota in 2007? Shane Matthews to James Allen? Jim McMahon to McKinnon and Gault in the Humpdome?
Grossman to Berrian, Week 1 at Green Bay in 2006 was pretty fucking special.
Quote from: Brownie on September 10, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Some teams make plays like that every couple of weeks. And when they do, their fans have every reason to dance around like a moron in their underwear. The Bears have almost never been able to pull off something like that and make it look so smooth and effortless. It's a new day, motherfucker.
I do remember a Cutler-to-Olson connection in 2010 that made me happy in all the right places. Before that, what did we have? The best Bears QB this side of Luckman to the receiver poised for a breakout year against Minnesota in 2007? Shane Matthews to James Allen? Jim McMahon to McKinnon and Gault in the Humpdome?
I was going to college in the Twin Cities in 1985 so McMahon coming off the bench to shove it up the Vikings' ass that night still holds a special place in my heart.
Even thought it's been more than 20 years since I lived up there I still hate the Vikings more than the Fucking Packers.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 10, 2012, 10:32:39 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 10, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Some teams make plays like that every couple of weeks. And when they do, their fans have every reason to dance around like a moron in their underwear. The Bears have almost never been able to pull off something like that and make it look so smooth and effortless. It's a new day, motherfucker.
I do remember a Cutler-to-Olson connection in 2010 that made me happy in all the right places. Before that, what did we have? The best Bears QB this side of Luckman to the receiver poised for a breakout year against Minnesota in 2007? Shane Matthews to James Allen? Jim McMahon to McKinnon and Gault in the Humpdome?
I was going to college in the Twin Cities in 1985 so McMahon coming off the bench to shove it up the Vikings' ass that night still holds a special place in my heart.
Even thought it's been more than 20 years since I lived up there I still hate the Vikings more than the Fucking Packers.
Leave it to Chuck to do this wrong and not quote the .Gif so it's in every post on this page.
I was lucky to be in Minneapolis at a time the Vikings were god-awful, so my hatred for the Pack wasn't threatened in any way. I'm heading back for the last Bears game in that abortion of a stadium in December. Anyone else thinking about making that trip?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 10, 2012, 10:39:36 PM
Leave it to Chuck to do this wrong and not quote the .Gif so it's in every post on this page.
I was lucky to be in Minneapolis at a time the Vikings were god-awful, so my hatred for the Pack wasn't threatened in any way. I'm heading back for the last Bears game in that abortion of a stadium in December. Anyone else thinking about making that trip?
Leave it to CFiHP to assume that people were doing that and just not simply responding to each post.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 10, 2012, 10:53:29 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 10, 2012, 10:39:36 PM
Leave it to Chuck to do this wrong and not quote the .Gif so it's in every post on this page.
I was lucky to be in Minneapolis at a time the Vikings were god-awful, so my hatred for the Pack wasn't threatened in any way. I'm heading back for the last Bears game in that abortion of a stadium in December. Anyone else thinking about making that trip?
Leave it to CFiHP to assume that people were doing that and just not simply responding to each post.
Leave it to Yetti to miss the fact that, whether we planned it that way or not, CFiHP has a point.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 10, 2012, 10:29:38 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 10, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 10, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
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Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Some teams make plays like that every couple of weeks. And when they do, their fans have every reason to dance around like a moron in their underwear. The Bears have almost never been able to pull off something like that and make it look so smooth and effortless. It's a new day, motherfucker.
I do remember a Cutler-to-Olson connection in 2010 that made me happy in all the right places. Before that, what did we have? The best Bears QB this side of Luckman to the receiver poised for a breakout year against Minnesota in 2007? Shane Matthews to James Allen? Jim McMahon to McKinnon and Gault in the Humpdome?
Grossman to Berrian, Week 1 at Green Bay in 2006 was pretty fucking special.
I thought of that one.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 10, 2012, 10:32:39 PM
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Quote from: SKO on September 09, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
I usually hate the Thursday games, but I've never been more excited. If they're ever going to beat Green Bay, now is the time, while their defense is still a mess and the Bears offense has all of the pieces in place. Bears.
Your avatar is so beautiful.
For posterity and enlarged enjoyments:
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Bear (ahem) in mind that I have very little in the way of a frame of reference for FOOTBAW achievements, having not paid a hell of a lot of attention down the years. That said, it seemed to me that this pass and catch were something a bit fucking special. I certainly danced round the room like they were, anyway. Please tell me I wasn't making myself look ridiculous.
Some teams make plays like that every couple of weeks. And when they do, their fans have every reason to dance around like a moron in their underwear. The Bears have almost never been able to pull off something like that and make it look so smooth and effortless. It's a new day, motherfucker.
I do remember a Cutler-to-Olson connection in 2010 that made me happy in all the right places. Before that, what did we have? The best Bears QB this side of Luckman to the receiver poised for a breakout year against Minnesota in 2007? Shane Matthews to James Allen? Jim McMahon to McKinnon and Gault in the Humpdome?
I was going to college in the Twin Cities in 1985 so McMahon coming off the bench to shove it up the Vikings' ass that night still holds a special place in my heart.
Even thought it's been more than 20 years since I lived up there I still hate the Vikings more than the Fucking Packers.
That's a good call. Take your pick on the first two--I'll go with the one where Payton completely plugged (||) the blitzing linebacker.
I submit Grossman's first career TD to Marty Booker vs. the Skins was also nice, though down the sideline.
There was something about Sunday's throw, though, and SKO sums it up well. There was a stunning sensation caused by seeing the ball come down in Jeffry's hand as he was already in the endzone that I'll never forget feeling.
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Scroll down to Bears v. Colts for some replacement official highlights. (http://deadspin.com/5941958/here-are-the-21-worst-replacement-referee-mistakes-from-sunday)
Jay's reaction in the first one is the best.
Quote from: PANK! on September 11, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
That's a good call. Take your pick on the first two--I'll go with the one where Payton completely plugged (||) the blitzing linebacker.
I submit Grossman's first career TD to Marty Booker vs. the Skins was also nice, though down the sideline.
There was something about Sunday's throw, though, and SKO sums it up well. There was a stunning sensation caused by seeing the ball come down in Jeffry's hand as he was already in the endzone that I'll never forget feeling.
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I believe the word you're looking for there is BONERTIME!
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That's a good call. Take your pick on the first two--I'll go with the one where Payton completely plugged (||) the blitzing linebacker.
I submit Grossman's first career TD to Marty Booker vs. the Skins was also nice, though down the sideline.
There was something about Sunday's throw, though, and SKO sums it up well. There was a stunning sensation caused by seeing the ball come down in Jeffry's hand as he was already in the endzone that I'll never forget feeling.
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Shit gets real at the 3:15 mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA-bgxOf704
Quote from: morpheus on September 11, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 11, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
That's a good call. Take your pick on the first two--I'll go with the one where Payton completely plugged (||) the blitzing linebacker.
I submit Grossman's first career TD to Marty Booker vs. the Skins was also nice, though down the sideline.
There was something about Sunday's throw, though, and SKO sums it up well. There was a stunning sensation caused by seeing the ball come down in Jeffry's hand as he was already in the endzone that I'll never forget feeling.
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I believe the word you're looking for there is BONERTIME!
That's one gorgeous play, but, you know, the Colts.
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 11, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 11, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
That's a good call. Take your pick on the first two--I'll go with the one where Payton completely plugged (||) the blitzing linebacker.
I submit Grossman's first career TD to Marty Booker vs. the Skins was also nice, though down the sideline.
There was something about Sunday's throw, though, and SKO sums it up well. There was a stunning sensation caused by seeing the ball come down in Jeffry's hand as he was already in the endzone that I'll never forget feeling.
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
I believe the word you're looking for there is BONERTIME!
That's one gorgeous play, but, you know, the Colts.
Right. I forgot that the physical act of firing a 60 yard dart with perfect placement into the hands of a receiver is somehow easier against shitty teams.
I don't think anyone's arguing that this is the most momentous throw in the history of Bears football. Just the most impressive looking.
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2012, 11:00:02 PM
I don't think anyone's arguing that this is the most momentous throw in the history of Bears football.
I nominate McMahon to Gault, January 12, 1986 to give the Bears a 17-0 lead against the Rams.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 12, 2012, 08:55:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2012, 11:00:02 PM
I don't think anyone's arguing that this is the most momentous throw in the history of Bears football.
I nominate McMahon to Gault, January 12, 1986 to give the Bears a 17-0 lead against the Rams.
I swee what you're doing, Chuck.
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The PFF recap of the Bears-Colts game:
QuoteChicago – Three Performances of Note
J'Marcus Who?
That couldn't have been J'Marcus Webb, could it? The left tackle for the Bears looked like a changed man against the Colts. The much-maligned left tackle must have been practicing a little this offseason as he came out with easily the best game of his career and finished with a grade of +5.4. Webb had an up-and-down second season in 2011 that had much larger downs than ups. He finished as our second-worst starting left tackle in the NFL. On Sunday though, his 333 pound frame dominated in the run game, but even better than that was his positive pass blocking grade of +1.3. The biggest reason that this may not just be a fluke is that it occurred in the new system Mike Tice has implemented. Webb seemed to be put on an island in pass blocking far less against the Colts than in 2011, and excelled at creating seals in the run game. I don't think I'm ready to say 'problem solved' for Chicago, but it's as good a start as Bears fans could have hoped for.
Cutler's New Weapons
All the hype surrounding the additions of Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery is only going to grow after the pair of performances they turned in against the Colts. At least for now, they appear to be just what the doctor ordered for quarterback Jay Cutler. The new-found height was huge in the red zone as Marshall caught a three-yard touchdown and earned two pass interference penalties in the end zone. Neither receiver disappointed as Marshall graded out at +1.8 and Jeffery at +1.7. The two receivers combined were targeted 20 times out of Cutler's 35 throws and any doubts about their effectiveness have been put to rest. The Bears' passing game will have a chance to improve on this performance Thursday night against a Green Bay defense that gave up the most passing yards in the league in 2011.
Not-So-Secret Superstar
Tim Jennings may have been a PFF Secret Superstar this offseason, but if he has a few more games like this one, the secret will be common knowledge. The great corners are said to take away half of the field and that was exactly what Jennings did. Luck would have been better off not even throwing a pass to Jennings' area of responsibility as he picked off two passes and allowed only three completions on nine targets. He has been under the radar for some time now because of his low interception totals (seven in the past four years). Hopefully this is the kind of game that can gain him the recognition he deserves.
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2012, 02:20:31 PM
The PFF recap of the Bears-Colts game:
QuoteChicago – Three Performances of Note
J'Marcus Who?
That couldn't have been J'Marcus Webb, could it? The left tackle for the Bears looked like a changed man against the Colts. The much-maligned left tackle must have been practicing a little this offseason as he came out with easily the best game of his career and finished with a grade of +5.4. Webb had an up-and-down second season in 2011 that had much larger downs than ups. He finished as our second-worst starting left tackle in the NFL. On Sunday though, his 333 pound frame dominated in the run game, but even better than that was his positive pass blocking grade of +1.3. The biggest reason that this may not just be a fluke is that it occurred in the new system Mike Tice has implemented. Webb seemed to be put on an island in pass blocking far less against the Colts than in 2011, and excelled at creating seals in the run game. I don't think I'm ready to say 'problem solved' for Chicago, but it's as good a start as Bears fans could have hoped for.
Cutler's New Weapons
All the hype surrounding the additions of Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery is only going to grow after the pair of performances they turned in against the Colts. At least for now, they appear to be just what the doctor ordered for quarterback Jay Cutler. The new-found height was huge in the red zone as Marshall caught a three-yard touchdown and earned two pass interference penalties in the end zone. Neither receiver disappointed as Marshall graded out at +1.8 and Jeffery at +1.7. The two receivers combined were targeted 20 times out of Cutler's 35 throws and any doubts about their effectiveness have been put to rest. The Bears' passing game will have a chance to improve on this performance Thursday night against a Green Bay defense that gave up the most passing yards in the league in 2011.
Not-So-Secret Superstar
Tim Jennings may have been a PFF Secret Superstar this offseason, but if he has a few more games like this one, the secret will be common knowledge. The great corners are said to take away half of the field and that was exactly what Jennings did. Luck would have been better off not even throwing a pass to Jennings' area of responsibility as he picked off two passes and allowed only three completions on nine targets. He has been under the radar for some time now because of his low interception totals (seven in the past four years). Hopefully this is the kind of game that can gain him the recognition he deserves.
I appreciate the JWebb splooge but was made of Dwight Freeney going down after the first series. I'm still a little scared.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2012, 02:49:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2012, 02:20:31 PM
The PFF recap of the Bears-Colts game:
QuoteChicago – Three Performances of Note
J'Marcus Who?
That couldn't have been J'Marcus Webb, could it? The left tackle for the Bears looked like a changed man against the Colts. The much-maligned left tackle must have been practicing a little this offseason as he came out with easily the best game of his career and finished with a grade of +5.4. Webb had an up-and-down second season in 2011 that had much larger downs than ups. He finished as our second-worst starting left tackle in the NFL. On Sunday though, his 333 pound frame dominated in the run game, but even better than that was his positive pass blocking grade of +1.3. The biggest reason that this may not just be a fluke is that it occurred in the new system Mike Tice has implemented. Webb seemed to be put on an island in pass blocking far less against the Colts than in 2011, and excelled at creating seals in the run game. I don't think I'm ready to say 'problem solved' for Chicago, but it's as good a start as Bears fans could have hoped for.
Cutler's New Weapons
All the hype surrounding the additions of Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery is only going to grow after the pair of performances they turned in against the Colts. At least for now, they appear to be just what the doctor ordered for quarterback Jay Cutler. The new-found height was huge in the red zone as Marshall caught a three-yard touchdown and earned two pass interference penalties in the end zone. Neither receiver disappointed as Marshall graded out at +1.8 and Jeffery at +1.7. The two receivers combined were targeted 20 times out of Cutler's 35 throws and any doubts about their effectiveness have been put to rest. The Bears' passing game will have a chance to improve on this performance Thursday night against a Green Bay defense that gave up the most passing yards in the league in 2011.
Not-So-Secret Superstar
Tim Jennings may have been a PFF Secret Superstar this offseason, but if he has a few more games like this one, the secret will be common knowledge. The great corners are said to take away half of the field and that was exactly what Jennings did. Luck would have been better off not even throwing a pass to Jennings' area of responsibility as he picked off two passes and allowed only three completions on nine targets. He has been under the radar for some time now because of his low interception totals (seven in the past four years). Hopefully this is the kind of game that can gain him the recognition he deserves.
I appreciate the JWebb splooge but was made of Dwight Freeney going down after the first series. I'm still a little scared.
That was all on Tim Spencer. Chris Williams might be in that slot before it's all over. #letsseehowitallplaysout
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2012, 02:49:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2012, 02:20:31 PM
The PFF recap of the Bears-Colts game:
QuoteChicago – Three Performances of Note
J'Marcus Who?
That couldn't have been J'Marcus Webb, could it? The left tackle for the Bears looked like a changed man against the Colts. The much-maligned left tackle must have been practicing a little this offseason as he came out with easily the best game of his career and finished with a grade of +5.4. Webb had an up-and-down second season in 2011 that had much larger downs than ups. He finished as our second-worst starting left tackle in the NFL. On Sunday though, his 333 pound frame dominated in the run game, but even better than that was his positive pass blocking grade of +1.3. The biggest reason that this may not just be a fluke is that it occurred in the new system Mike Tice has implemented. Webb seemed to be put on an island in pass blocking far less against the Colts than in 2011, and excelled at creating seals in the run game. I don't think I'm ready to say 'problem solved' for Chicago, but it's as good a start as Bears fans could have hoped for.
Cutler's New Weapons
All the hype surrounding the additions of Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery is only going to grow after the pair of performances they turned in against the Colts. At least for now, they appear to be just what the doctor ordered for quarterback Jay Cutler. The new-found height was huge in the red zone as Marshall caught a three-yard touchdown and earned two pass interference penalties in the end zone. Neither receiver disappointed as Marshall graded out at +1.8 and Jeffery at +1.7. The two receivers combined were targeted 20 times out of Cutler's 35 throws and any doubts about their effectiveness have been put to rest. The Bears' passing game will have a chance to improve on this performance Thursday night against a Green Bay defense that gave up the most passing yards in the league in 2011.
Not-So-Secret Superstar
Tim Jennings may have been a PFF Secret Superstar this offseason, but if he has a few more games like this one, the secret will be common knowledge. The great corners are said to take away half of the field and that was exactly what Jennings did. Luck would have been better off not even throwing a pass to Jennings' area of responsibility as he picked off two passes and allowed only three completions on nine targets. He has been under the radar for some time now because of his low interception totals (seven in the past four years). Hopefully this is the kind of game that can gain him the recognition he deserves.
I appreciate the JWebb splooge but was made of Dwight Freeney going down after the first series. I'm still a little scared.
Bernstein's been sniveling and saying shit like "it was totally coincidence, not causality, that the offense got better after Freeney went out.." Fuck that. I won't say it didn't help, but none of their problems on the first couple of drives had shit to do with Freeney. It was actually Kellen Davis, not Chris Spencer, as far as I could tell, who got beat for the first sack (which was Mathis, as was their only other sack), and Cutler really wasn't even pressured to begin with. He was just misfiring. J'Marcus has obviously got to do this more than once, but Freeney was not an issue. PFF even said he did very little on the few plays he was in. He was in coverage half his snaps anyway.
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2012, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 11, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 11, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
That's a good call. Take your pick on the first two--I'll go with the one where Payton completely plugged (||) the blitzing linebacker.
I submit Grossman's first career TD to Marty Booker vs. the Skins was also nice, though down the sideline.
There was something about Sunday's throw, though, and SKO sums it up well. There was a stunning sensation caused by seeing the ball come down in Jeffry's hand as he was already in the endzone that I'll never forget feeling.
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I believe the word you're looking for there is BONERTIME!
That's one gorgeous play, but, you know, the Colts.
Right. I forgot that the physical act of firing a 60 yard dart with perfect placement into the hands of a receiver is somehow easier against shitty teams.
I don't think anyone's arguing that this is the most momentous throw in the history of Bears football. Just the most impressive looking.
Everything's easier against shitty teams. More time in the pocket, worse pass coverage, name it.
But as I said, gorgeous play.
Quote from: Fork on September 13, 2012, 07:59:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2012, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 11, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 11, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
That's a good call. Take your pick on the first two--I'll go with the one where Payton completely plugged (||) the blitzing linebacker.
I submit Grossman's first career TD to Marty Booker vs. the Skins was also nice, though down the sideline.
There was something about Sunday's throw, though, and SKO sums it up well. There was a stunning sensation caused by seeing the ball come down in Jeffry's hand as he was already in the endzone that I'll never forget feeling.
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
I believe the word you're looking for there is BONERTIME!
That's one gorgeous play, but, you know, the Colts.
Right. I forgot that the physical act of firing a 60 yard dart with perfect placement into the hands of a receiver is somehow easier against shitty teams.
I don't think anyone's arguing that this is the most momentous throw in the history of Bears football. Just the most impressive looking.
Everything's easier against shitty teams. More time in the pocket, worse pass coverage, name it.
But as I said, gorgeous play.
Plus, it's way easier to use the run to set up the play action pass*, like on this play.
* I think that's how it works?
Quote from: Eli on September 13, 2012, 08:06:44 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 13, 2012, 07:59:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2012, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 11, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 11, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
That's a good call. Take your pick on the first two--I'll go with the one where Payton completely plugged (||) the blitzing linebacker.
I submit Grossman's first career TD to Marty Booker vs. the Skins was also nice, though down the sideline.
There was something about Sunday's throw, though, and SKO sums it up well. There was a stunning sensation caused by seeing the ball come down in Jeffry's hand as he was already in the endzone that I'll never forget feeling.
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1348755/nomothshere.gif)
I believe the word you're looking for there is BONERTIME!
That's one gorgeous play, but, you know, the Colts.
Right. I forgot that the physical act of firing a 60 yard dart with perfect placement into the hands of a receiver is somehow easier against shitty teams.
I don't think anyone's arguing that this is the most momentous throw in the history of Bears football. Just the most impressive looking.
Everything's easier against shitty teams. More time in the pocket, worse pass coverage, name it.
But as I said, gorgeous play.
Plus, it's way easier to use establish the run to set up the play action pass*, like on this play.
* I think that's how it works?
so close.
Let's say hypothetically that the NFL Network and the cable companies aren't interested in their customers and it's really difficult to get the channel as a result. Let's also say, totally hypothetically, that one would like to watch a certain team play a certain other team tonight over some sort of series of tubes. How could one do so in some other parallel world where such a thing is even possible and certainly not in this world nor would one ever dream of doing so even if it were possible, just to make that clear? Hypothetically.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 13, 2012, 06:39:11 PM
Let's say hypothetically that the NFL Network and the cable companies aren't interested in their customers and it's really difficult to get the channel as a result. Let's also say, totally hypothetically, that one would like to watch a certain team play a certain other team tonight over some sort of series of tubes. How could one do so in some other parallel world where such a thing is even possible and certainly not in this world nor would one ever dream of doing so even if it were possible, just to make that clear? Hypothetically.
Move to Arizona?
Quote from: flannj on September 13, 2012, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 13, 2012, 06:39:11 PM
Let's say hypothetically that the NFL Network and the cable companies aren't interested in their customers and it's really difficult to get the channel as a result. Let's also say, totally hypothetically, that one would like to watch a certain team play a certain other team tonight over some sort of series of tubes. How could one do so in some other parallel world where such a thing is even possible and certainly not in this world nor would one ever dream of doing so even if it were possible, just to make that clear? Hypothetically.
Move to Arizona?
Damn, why didn't I think of that sooner. And I found a tip from Tonker on Wiziwig. Thank you Tonk.
P. Motherfucking. Nut.
Quote from: flannj on September 13, 2012, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 13, 2012, 06:39:11 PM
Let's say hypothetically that the NFL Network and the cable companies aren't interested in their customers and it's really difficult to get the channel as a result. Let's also say, totally hypothetically, that one would like to watch a certain team play a certain other team tonight over some sort of series of tubes. How could one do so in some other parallel world where such a thing is even possible and certainly not in this world nor would one ever dream of doing so even if it were possible, just to make that clear? Hypothetically.
Move to Arizona?
Happy to report that both Arizona (Cox) and Colorado (Comcast) cable companies carry NFL Network.
I hope Green Bay is the first city nuked when they start dropping. And Aaron Rodgers gets unfunny cancer
Defense played really well - this offense has a long ways to go this season.
It can get there, but not a single player on offense played up to the level of terrible tonight. The reality is that this game was stopping one crazy fake FG away from being a 1 score game. And in that scenario, the game should've been won if the offense weren't absolute dogshit.
The worst thing could be Forte being done for a while. If he is, then the panic needle moves up from "nothing to see here, move along" to wondering if Romney might actually win levels of panic.
Well, at least no Bears fan will overreact and say the season is over.
The Bears are 1-9 in their last ten games against the Packers. So needless to say, it's just like the 90′s all over again for this rivalry. Isn't the other team actually suppose to win games in a rivalry? Well, at least they have one in those ten.
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2012, 07:27:27 AM
The Bears are 1-9 in their last ten games against the Packers. So needless to say, it's just like the 90′s all over again for this rivalry. Isn't the other team actually suppose to win games in a rivalry? Well, at least they have one in those ten.
I just wanted to throw in that the one win the Bears have had against in the Packers in the last ten games was that Monday night game in 2010. If it wasn't for some penalties that weren't suppose to be called in favor of the Bears and a blocked field goal, the Bears easily lose that game. Take that for what it's worth.
Our coaching staff did a great job last night.
Everybody shut up.
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2012, 07:27:27 AM
The Bears are 1-9 in their last ten games against the Packers. So needless to say, it's just like the 90′s all over again for this rivalry. Isn't the other team actually suppose to win games in a rivalry? Well, at least they have one in those ten.
I know y'all are just Frolling, but jebus, that's a horrible analogy. The Bears sucked in the 90's.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 14, 2012, 07:48:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2012, 07:27:27 AM
The Bears are 1-9 in their last ten games against the Packers. So needless to say, it's just like the 90′s all over again for this rivalry. Isn't the other team actually suppose to win games in a rivalry? Well, at least they have one in those ten.
I just wanted to throw in that the one win the Bears have had against in the Packers in the last ten games was that Monday night game in 2010. If it wasn't for some penalties that weren't suppose to be called in favor of the Bears and a blocked field goal, the Bears easily lose that game. Take that for what it's worth.
Rodgers did just enough to get the job done and that's what great quarterbacks do.
http://www.csnchicago.com/xfinity/Woodson-Its-the-same-old-Cutler?blockID=773045&feedID=10330
Quote"It's the same old Jay. We just need to be in position. Jay will throw us the ball," Woodson said.
I can't even get too butthurt about that. After Cutler mouthing off during the week and then playing like he did, Woodson's probably entitled to some taunting.
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 09:12:24 AM
http://www.csnchicago.com/xfinity/Woodson-Its-the-same-old-Cutler?blockID=773045&feedID=10330
Quote"It's the same old Jay. We just need to be in position. Jay will throw us the ball," Woodson said.
I can't even get too butthurt about that. After Cutler mouthing off during the week and then playing like he did, Woodson's probably entitled to some taunting.
Agreed. I'm not even going to defend Cutler at all for how he played this week. The meatballs need this. It's cathartic, and he deserves it. That said, Jesus Christ, STOP RIPPING HIM FOR THROWING HIS OFFENSIVE LINEMEN UNDER THE BUS. IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND IT ISN'T FIXED. THAT'S NOT OKAY. HE CAN SAY IT.
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 09:40:25 AM
Agreed. I'm not even going to defend Cutler at all for how he played this week. The meatballs need this. It's cathartic, and he deserves it. That said, Jesus Christ, STOP RIPPING HIM FOR THROWING HIS OFFENSIVE LINEMEN UNDER THE BUS. IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND IT ISN'T FIXED. THAT'S NOT OKAY. HE CAN SAY IT.
You couldn't be more wrong. This morning I learned that the quarterback is the CEO of the team and shouldn't yell at his linemen. Also, he would not of ever got away with that if Olin Kreutz was still on this team spreading his veteran leadership all over the place.
Quote from: CT III on September 14, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 09:40:25 AM
Agreed. I'm not even going to defend Cutler at all for how he played this week. The meatballs need this. It's cathartic, and he deserves it. That said, Jesus Christ, STOP RIPPING HIM FOR THROWING HIS OFFENSIVE LINEMEN UNDER THE BUS. IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND IT ISN'T FIXED. THAT'S NOT OKAY. HE CAN SAY IT.
You couldn't be more wrong. This morning I learned that the quarterback is the CEO of the team and shouldn't yell at his linemen. Also, he would not of ever got away with that if Olin Kreutz was still on this team spreading his veteran leadership all over the place.
Bring back Caleb Hanie. He never yelled at his linemen.
Quote from: CT III on September 14, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 09:40:25 AM
Agreed. I'm not even going to defend Cutler at all for how he played this week. The meatballs need this. It's cathartic, and he deserves it. That said, Jesus Christ, STOP RIPPING HIM FOR THROWING HIS OFFENSIVE LINEMEN UNDER THE BUS. IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND IT ISN'T FIXED. THAT'S NOT OKAY. HE CAN SAY IT.
You couldn't be more wrong. This morning I learned that the quarterback is the CEO of the team and shouldn't yell at his linemen.
Unless he's Aaron Rodgers. In which case it shows his fire and passion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3N38JiF0vI#t=0m11s).
In other silver-lining-youtube-videos news, Charles Tillman says (Fuck you) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJoNxO8vYDk).
Quote from: CT III on September 14, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 09:40:25 AM
Agreed. I'm not even going to defend Cutler at all for how he played this week. The meatballs need this. It's cathartic, and he deserves it. That said, Jesus Christ, STOP RIPPING HIM FOR THROWING HIS OFFENSIVE LINEMEN UNDER THE BUS. IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND IT ISN'T FIXED. THAT'S NOT OKAY. HE CAN SAY IT.
You couldn't be more wrong. This morning I learned that the quarterback is the CEO of the team and shouldn't yell at his linemen. Also, he would not of ever got away with that if Olin Kreutz was still on this team spreading his veteran leadership all over the place.
Does he spread that veteran leadership on a towel or does he use a sock instead?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 14, 2012, 10:17:35 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 14, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 09:40:25 AM
Agreed. I'm not even going to defend Cutler at all for how he played this week. The meatballs need this. It's cathartic, and he deserves it. That said, Jesus Christ, STOP RIPPING HIM FOR THROWING HIS OFFENSIVE LINEMEN UNDER THE BUS. IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND IT ISN'T FIXED. THAT'S NOT OKAY. HE CAN SAY IT.
You couldn't be more wrong. This morning I learned that the quarterback is the CEO of the team and shouldn't yell at his linemen. Also, he would not of ever got away with that if Olin Kreutz was still on this team spreading his veteran leadership all over the place.
Does he spread that veteran leadership on a towel or does he use a sock instead?
I think he spreads it on a free weight and then punches you in the face with it.
I agree with the content of this internet article.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8377155/we-seem-keep-redefining-jay-cutler-every-four-quarters
Quote from: R-V on September 14, 2012, 11:02:54 AM
I agree with the content of this internet article.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8377155/we-seem-keep-redefining-jay-cutler-every-four-quarters
seam
"Hi, I'm Charles Tillman. Fuck you."
Matt Forte might have a high ankle sprain. I might have a 9.5-inch penis.
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds. No, I am not saying that he uses PEDs. I am saying that he is a jerk. But he is our jerk and we feel it necessary to defend or explain or ignore his jerkiness because he is our jerk. The rest of the world is free to point out his smirk, his pout, his attitude toward his teammates, and his lapses as a quarterback. But because he has, from time to time, delivered some outstanding quarterback play, a rarity in Chicago, we accept the whole package and either ignore his personality or make excuses for it. There is nothing that we can do about it. Here in San Francisco fans knew in their hearts that Bonds was an ass, but they looked the other way. And why not? Until he got caught lying before a Grand Jury they were getting the benefit of his artificially augmented talent so why shoot themselves in the foot by nattering about how unlikable he was as a person? After an ugly performance like the one we just saw a few of us will jump off the wagon, but the majority will go on as before until his contract expires or he asks for an extension that makes it too difficult to accept the whole package. What this comes down to is that we don't have to like him as a person. He isn't going to go away or play any worse if we face up to the fact that we don't want him as a friend. So the next time someone from Detroit or Wisconsin says that it is "just Jay being Jay", we should answer "amen brother" and get on with our lives.
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds. No, I am not saying that he uses PEDs. I am saying that he is a jerk. But he is our jerk and we feel it necessary to defend or explain or ignore his jerkiness because he is our jerk. The rest of the world is free to point out his smirk, his pout, his attitude toward his teammates, and his lapses as a quarterback. But because he has, from time to time, delivered some outstanding quarterback play, a rarity in Chicago, we accept the whole package and either ignore his personality or make excuses for it. There is nothing that we can do about it. Here in San Francisco fans knew in their hearts that Bonds was an ass, but they looked the other way. And why not? Until he got caught lying before a Grand Jury they were getting the benefit of his artificially augmented talent so why shoot themselves in the foot by nattering about how unlikable he was as a person? After an ugly performance like the one we just saw a few of us will jump off the wagon, but the majority will go on as before until his contract expires or he asks for an extension that makes it too difficult to accept the whole package. What this comes down to is that we don't have to like him as a person. He isn't going to go away or play any worse if we face up to the fact that we don't want him as a friend. So the next time someone from Detroit or Wisconsin says that it is "just Jay being Jay", we should answer "amen brother" and get on with our lives.
With all due respect, counselor, I'd like to refer you to Slaky's corollary to rule 10.17 (c). Jay may be our A.J. Pierzynski. But Barroid alienated absolutely everybody, embarrassed his team and his sport. There's a guy rotting in prison because he wouldn't rat on Barroid. There is a woman claiming that Barroid was in an abusive extra-marital relationship with her for over a decade. What the hell possessed you to write this?
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds. No, I am not saying that he uses PEDs. I am saying that he is a jerk. But he is our jerk and we feel it necessary to defend or explain or ignore his jerkiness because he is our jerk. The rest of the world is free to point out his smirk, his pout, his attitude toward his teammates, and his lapses as a quarterback. But because he has, from time to time, delivered some outstanding quarterback play, a rarity in Chicago, we accept the whole package and either ignore his personality or make excuses for it. There is nothing that we can do about it. Here in San Francisco fans knew in their hearts that Bonds was an ass, but they looked the other way. And why not? Until he got caught lying before a Grand Jury they were getting the benefit of his artificially augmented talent so why shoot themselves in the foot by nattering about how unlikable he was as a person? After an ugly performance like the one we just saw a few of us will jump off the wagon, but the majority will go on as before until his contract expires or he asks for an extension that makes it too difficult to accept the whole package. What this comes down to is that we don't have to like him as a person. He isn't going to go away or play any worse if we face up to the fact that we don't want him as a friend. So the next time someone from Detroit or Wisconsin says that it is "just Jay being Jay", we should answer "amen brother" and get on with our lives.
Barry Bonds was a hall of famer
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 14, 2012, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds. No, I am not saying that he uses PEDs. I am saying that he is a jerk. But he is our jerk and we feel it necessary to defend or explain or ignore his jerkiness because he is our jerk. The rest of the world is free to point out his smirk, his pout, his attitude toward his teammates, and his lapses as a quarterback. But because he has, from time to time, delivered some outstanding quarterback play, a rarity in Chicago, we accept the whole package and either ignore his personality or make excuses for it. There is nothing that we can do about it. Here in San Francisco fans knew in their hearts that Bonds was an ass, but they looked the other way. And why not? Until he got caught lying before a Grand Jury they were getting the benefit of his artificially augmented talent so why shoot themselves in the foot by nattering about how unlikable he was as a person? After an ugly performance like the one we just saw a few of us will jump off the wagon, but the majority will go on as before until his contract expires or he asks for an extension that makes it too difficult to accept the whole package. What this comes down to is that we don't have to like him as a person. He isn't going to go away or play any worse if we face up to the fact that we don't want him as a friend. So the next time someone from Detroit or Wisconsin says that it is "just Jay being Jay", we should answer "amen brother" and get on with our lives.
With all due respect, counselor, I'd like to refer you to Slaky's corollary to rule 10.17 (c). Jay may be our A.J. Pierzynski. But Barroid alienated absolutely everybody, embarrassed his team and his sport. There's a guy rotting in prison because he wouldn't rat on Barroid. There is a woman claiming that Barroid was in an abusive extra-marital relationship with her for over a decade. What the hell possessed you to write this?
You may be right. A.J. was a burden to San Francisco and is a burden borne by part of Chicago, but my experience here in the Bay Area was that most people just shrugged him off, which is what I am suggesting that we do with Cutler. Whereas, until Bonds got caught, everybody was in denial. My favorite Bonds story was an interview that was published in the Chronicle where he was quoted as saying, "My wife is like toilet paper. She is always there when I want her." I don't know what is is with Bonds and toilet paper, he was interviewed in Playboy and said that his wife was patient like toilet paper, because she just sat there and waited. Google Bonds and toilet paper. It enters frequently into his imagery.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 14, 2012, 12:17:14 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds. No, I am not saying that he uses PEDs. I am saying that he is a jerk. But he is our jerk and we feel it necessary to defend or explain or ignore his jerkiness because he is our jerk. The rest of the world is free to point out his smirk, his pout, his attitude toward his teammates, and his lapses as a quarterback. But because he has, from time to time, delivered some outstanding quarterback play, a rarity in Chicago, we accept the whole package and either ignore his personality or make excuses for it. There is nothing that we can do about it. Here in San Francisco fans knew in their hearts that Bonds was an ass, but they looked the other way. And why not? Until he got caught lying before a Grand Jury they were getting the benefit of his artificially augmented talent so why shoot themselves in the foot by nattering about how unlikable he was as a person? After an ugly performance like the one we just saw a few of us will jump off the wagon, but the majority will go on as before until his contract expires or he asks for an extension that makes it too difficult to accept the whole package. What this comes down to is that we don't have to like him as a person. He isn't going to go away or play any worse if we face up to the fact that we don't want him as a friend. So the next time someone from Detroit or Wisconsin says that it is "just Jay being Jay", we should answer "amen brother" and get on with our lives.
Barry Bonds was a hall of famer
No, Chuck.
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
You may be right. A.J. was a burden to San Francisco and is a burden borne by part of Chicago, but my experience here in the Bay Area was that most people just shrugged him off, which is what I am suggesting that we do with Cutler.
I think people around here (all 11 of us) shrug off Cutler's mopiness. But a very large portion of Bears fans are actually bothered by it and don't seem to like the guy.
Also, I'm in agreement with TDubbs. For Cutler to equate to Bonds, he'd be throwing 100 TDs a year and completing 90% of his passes at 25 yards-per-attempt. There are nuances to everything, but Bonds was probably the best baseball player ever, so it had to be pretty easy for fans to ignore his other behavior. Cutler hasn't been consistently good enough for most of the fanbase to brush that off.
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
You may be right. A.J. was a burden to San Francisco and is a burden borne by part of Chicago, but my experience here in the Bay Area was that most people just shrugged him off, which is what I am suggesting that we do with Cutler.
I think people around here (all 11 of us) shrug off Cutler's mopiness. But a very large portion of Bears fans are actually bothered by it and don't seem to like the guy.
Also, I'm in agreement with TDubbs. For Cutler to equate to Bonds, he'd be throwing 100 TDs a year and completing 90% of his passes at 25 yards-per-attempt. There are nuances to everything, but Bonds was probably the best baseball player ever, so it had to be pretty easy for fans to ignore his other behavior. Cutler hasn't been consistently good enough for most of the fanbase to brush that off.
I wouldn't say it's even that he hasn't been consistently good enough. He's 20-9 in his last 29 starts with a QB rating of 89 over that time. He's still a dick when he's winning and playing well, however, so he doesn't win over any converts. They just come right back out of the woodshed when he has a bad game. I'm done arguing with the Cutler extremists. If you're the type that thinks last night means he CAN'T EVER BE A WINNAR BECAUSE LEADERSHIP POUTS RARR, well, okay. No one's going to win you over until/if he wins a Superbowl. If you're the PenFoe "he's an above average, but not elite, QB, and his head will keep him from being one" type, well, I hope you're wrong but at least you're standing in the reasonable part of the equation. As long as Bears management doesn't listen to the meatballs and keeps him, I'm out of the fight. I'm not worried about him bouncing back, since he went 15-5 between his last 4 pick outing and this one. So whatever. He clearly doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks of him, so we should all follow his lead.
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds.
Not bad, but maybe there's someone else. Let me see. A guy who is immensely talented. Who is outstanding at times and brutally bad at others. A guy who doesn't always play using skills as you'd teach them out of a text book.
Cutler is Soriano.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds.
Not bad, but maybe there's someone else. Let me see. A guy who is immensely talented. Who is outstanding at times and brutally bad at others. A guy who doesn't always play using skills as you'd teach them out of a text book.
Cutler is Soriano.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds.
Not bad, but maybe there's someone else. Let me see. A guy who is immensely talented. Who is outstanding at times and brutally bad at others. A guy who doesn't always play using skills as you'd teach them out of a text book.
Cutler is Soriano.
Now see what you people did?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 14, 2012, 01:27:50 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 14, 2012, 12:17:14 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Spoiler. This is my meatball offering.
Jay Cutler is our Barry Bonds. No, I am not saying that he uses PEDs. I am saying that he is a jerk. But he is our jerk and we feel it necessary to defend or explain or ignore his jerkiness because he is our jerk. The rest of the world is free to point out his smirk, his pout, his attitude toward his teammates, and his lapses as a quarterback. But because he has, from time to time, delivered some outstanding quarterback play, a rarity in Chicago, we accept the whole package and either ignore his personality or make excuses for it. There is nothing that we can do about it. Here in San Francisco fans knew in their hearts that Bonds was an ass, but they looked the other way. And why not? Until he got caught lying before a Grand Jury they were getting the benefit of his artificially augmented talent so why shoot themselves in the foot by nattering about how unlikable he was as a person? After an ugly performance like the one we just saw a few of us will jump off the wagon, but the majority will go on as before until his contract expires or he asks for an extension that makes it too difficult to accept the whole package. What this comes down to is that we don't have to like him as a person. He isn't going to go away or play any worse if we face up to the fact that we don't want him as a friend. So the next time someone from Detroit or Wisconsin says that it is "just Jay being Jay", we should answer "amen brother" and get on with our lives.
Barry Bonds was a hall of famer
No, Chuck.
He'll be the benchmark for guys like Clemens and A-Rod. He had HOF credentials before he started (allegedly) juicing.
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
If anyone is Bonds, it's Clay Matthews. He has a bigger forehead than Tdubbs.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
That's dumb.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
P.S. That was stupid even for Chuck, even for Chuck.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
So to answer Waco's question, yes.
The bears are 13-42 when trailing at the half in Lovie's tenure. Halftime adjustments are overrated, better to stick to the plan.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
I don't know if this is the most wrong thing you've ever said, but it's at least in the neighborhood.
Quote from: PenPho on September 14, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
I don't know if this is the most wrong thing you've ever said, but it's at least in the neighborhood.
Thanks for knowing my liver better than I do.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 14, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
I don't know if this is the most wrong thing you've ever said, but it's at least in the neighborhood.
Thanks for knowing my liver better than I do.
Fuckin mind readers.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 14, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
I don't know if this is the most wrong thing you've ever said, but it's at least in the neighborhood.
Thanks for knowing my liver better than I do.
Ahh...my apologies, I thought this was referring to the collective of Chicago.
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
Quote from: PenPho on September 14, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 14, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
I don't know if this is the most wrong thing you've ever said, but it's at least in the neighborhood.
Thanks for knowing my liver better than I do.
Ahh...my apologies, I thought this was referring to the collective of Chicago.
No, that would certainly be backwards. Cutler generates meatball bile. Soriano is mostly ignored.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
What are you talking about?
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
What are you talking about?
Apparently we need to hate Soriano because the Bears will get a QB than him sometime in the next 27-45 years. Or something. I'm tired.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
You should probably limit the timeframe to when the forward pass was really in play.
They don't seem to have stats until the 1932 season for the Bears, at which point Keith Molesworth and Bernie Masterson were throwing for roughly 400 yards per season. Not until Luckman came in 1940 did they really have any semblance of a passing game.
So, 70 years, 3 QBs = 23.3 years per good QB.
I think you'd be pretty hard-pressed to find many long-established NFL franchises doing measurably better than that.
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
So is "FYC" officially expanded to include Jay Cutler?
Nah. Cutler doesn't generate bile the same way Soriano does. Cutler only generates disappointment. It's not like the Bears have ever had a more talented QB than Cutler. The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
So to answer Waco's question, yes.
I'm just glad to learn that we have a new FYC beneficiary lined up this far ahead of 2015.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
Damn. How quickly we forget Johnnie Lujack.
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2012, 03:19:29 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
Damn. How quickly we forget Johnnie Lujack.
Big mistake by Halas, in retrospect, was letting Bobby Layne go in favor of Lujack, who was much more highly touted coming out of ND but quite ordinary, as it turned out, as a pro.
EVERYONE SHUT. THE FUCK. UP.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 14, 2012, 04:00:34 PM
EVERYONE SHUT. THE FUCK. UP.
Not a fan of 1950's Bears Quarterbacks?
Oh for fuck's sake, if we're going to draw half-assed parallels between Cutler and various Cubs, let's get it right.
He's Carlos Zambrano.
Quote from: CT III on September 14, 2012, 06:06:16 PM
Oh for fuck's sake, if we're going to draw half-assed parallels between Cutler and various Cubs, let's get it right.
He's Carlos Zambrano.
I don't think you spelled Aramis Ramirez correctly.
Who is Jeromy Burnitz in this analogy?
Quote from: CT III on September 14, 2012, 06:06:16 PM
Oh for fuck's sake, if we're going to draw half-assed parallels between Cutler and various Cubs, let's get it right.
He's Carlos Zambrano.
So who will Cutler punch in the face?
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
What are you talking about?
Apparently we need to hate Soriano because the Bears will get a QB than him sometime in the next 27-45 years. Or something. I'm tired.
I doubt the Bears will get a QB than him anytime soon.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 14, 2012, 12:14:04 PM
With all due respect, counselor, I'd like to refer you to Slaky's corollary to rule 10.17 (c). Jay may be our A.J. Pierzynski. But Barroid alienated absolutely everybody, embarrassed his team and his sport. There's a guy rotting in prison because he wouldn't rat on Barroid. There is a woman claiming that Barroid was in an abusive extra-marital relationship with her for over a decade. What the hell possessed you to write this?
Greg Anderson was only in jail while Bonds was on trial.
Quote from: BH on September 14, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
The bears are 13-42 when trailing at the half in Lovie's tenure. Halftime adjustments are overrated, better to stick to the plan.
I just checked the 2010 regular season, and NFL teams were 58-198 when trailing at the half. A 13-42 record seems to be right around average -- maybe a bit above average.
Quote from: Bort on September 14, 2012, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:59:20 PM
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Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
What are you talking about?
Apparently we need to hate Soriano because the Bears will get a QB than him sometime in the next 27-45 years. Or something. I'm tired.
I doubt the Bears will get a QB than him anytime soon.
The whole than?
Quote from: CT III on September 14, 2012, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 14, 2012, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 14, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 14, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The Cubs have certainly had better left fielders than Soriano.
Like five of them. In 137 years.
So, by your math, one every 27 years.
The Bears have had who better than Cutler since 1920? Say we go with Luckman and McMahon. So, one every 45 years?
What are you talking about?
Apparently we need to hate Soriano because the Bears will get a QB than him sometime in the next 27-45 years. Or something. I'm tired.
I doubt the Bears will get a QB than him anytime soon.
The whole than?
Hell if I know. I don't speak Iowan.
Quote from: flannj on September 14, 2012, 10:56:11 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 14, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
Who is Jeromy Burnitz in this analogy?
Neal Peart?
I resent the inference. Neal Peart would never get picked off 3rd base with one out, in a one run game.
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
Quote from: Bort on September 17, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 17, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
He ate pastrami on white bread with lettuce and mayonnaise.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 14, 2012, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: BH on September 14, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
The bears are 13-42 when trailing at the half in Lovie's tenure. Halftime adjustments are overrated, better to stick to the plan.
I just checked the 2010 regular season, and NFL teams were 58-198 when trailing at the half. A 13-42 record seems to be right around average -- maybe a bit above average.
Is this what people are talking about when they use that word PWNAGE?
Quote from: CBStew on September 17, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
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Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
He ate pastrami on white bread with lettuce and mayonnaise.
He often crosses an intersection during traffic at a yellow light, and ends up blocking the cross-traffic.
Quote from: PANK! on September 17, 2012, 10:10:51 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 17, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
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Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
He ate pastrami on white bread with lettuce and mayonnaise.
He often crosses an intersection during traffic at a yellow light, and ends up blocking the cross-traffic.
Wait, wait, is this while he was in the intersection waiting or did he race into the intersection while it was yellow?
Because the latter can eat a bag of dicks.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 17, 2012, 10:10:51 AM
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Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
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Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
He ate pastrami on white bread with lettuce and mayonnaise.
He often crosses an intersection during traffic at a yellow light, and ends up blocking the cross-traffic.
Wait, wait, is this while he was in the intersection waiting or did he race into the intersection while it was yellow?
Because the latter can eat a bag of dicks.
He refuses to merge until the last moment when approaching a lane closure.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 17, 2012, 10:10:51 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 17, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 17, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
He ate pastrami on white bread with lettuce and mayonnaise.
He often crosses an intersection during traffic at a yellow light, and ends up blocking the cross-traffic.
Wait, wait, is this while he was in the intersection waiting or did he race into the intersection while it was yellow?
Because the latter can eat a bag of dicks.
Yeah, the latter.
Also, Cutler consistently brings 25+ items into the "15 items or fewer" lane at Jewel.
When did Jay Cutler become Mike Fontenot?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 17, 2012, 11:24:12 AM
When did Jay Cutler become Mike Fontenot?
We should have signed this Jay Cutler (http://www.jaycutler.com).
Quote from: CBStew on September 17, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 17, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
He ate pastrami on white bread with lettuce and mayonnaise.
He orders his steak well done.
Quote from: PANK! on September 17, 2012, 11:15:55 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 17, 2012, 10:10:51 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 17, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
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Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
He ate pastrami on white bread with lettuce and mayonnaise.
He often crosses an intersection during traffic at a yellow light, and ends up blocking the cross-traffic.
Wait, wait, is this while he was in the intersection waiting or did he race into the intersection while it was yellow?
Because the latter can eat a bag of dicks.
Yeah, the latter.
Also, Cutler consistently brings 25+ items into the "15 items or fewer" lane at Jewel.
And waits until after he's been rung up to start filling out his check.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 17, 2012, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 17, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 17, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 17, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 17, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Got back into town from a too-brief trip last night and saw the Sunday Tribune's treatment of Jay Cutler. I left town Friday morning, and Cutler simply had a crappy game, but was put on his back a few times and got a little frustrated. Since then, he has apparently prolonged the teachers' strikes in Chicago and Lake Forest, planned the Mideast embassy riots, produced the offending film, negotiated Alfonso Soriano's contract, taught J'Marcus how to pass block, forced PenFoe to move to Colorado, beat up a couple old ladies, and invested in a lantern-kicking cow.
This is personal now, and for the sake of all that's good, I hope Cutler leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, wins NFL MVP, and haunts Chuck's dreams forever.
He also tried to blow up Cal's.
I heard he put catsup on a frankfurter.
He also put cat foeces in the human toilet.
He ate pastrami on white bread with lettuce and mayonnaise.
He orders his steak well done.
And dips it in ketchup.
Cutler wishes they never of gotten rid of Hainie and maybe let him start.
D.J. Moore thinks that Jay was being unfair (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-moore-cutler-unfair-to-webb-20120917,0,1156391.story) to J'Marcus Webb.
Quote"Is it unfair to criticize Jay right now? Shoot, it's unfair for him to be like that toward J'Marcus," Moore said Monday. "In every game in every sport, there's always somebody who has a tough day. For you to come off on the sideline, once you holler at him it makes it seem like (Webb) is the only reason."
Yeah, totally unfair. You just don't do that. Calling out J'Marcus Webb is just wrong, sort of like, I don't know. Like what, D.J.?
Quote"I don't feel for Cut. He knows what he was doing. I don't think you do that. I think if you have a problem with (Webb), maybe do that in the locker room or something. It's like bad-mouthing someone in the media. It's just weird.''
Uh.
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
BUT HE HAD DISRESPECTED WEBB IN FRONT OF DA FANS! DA MOST IMPORTANT PART OF DA FRANCHISE!
WITOUT US, DA BEARS ARE NOTHING!!! I PAY YOUR CELERY CUTSTINK!
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2012, 09:31:13 PM
I PAY YOUR CELERY CUTSTINK!
Okay, I really laughed at this.
Also: JaMarcus Webb fucking sucks. And I think he could benefit from the support of his team's nickelback slightly more than Jay at this point. Jay doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks. JaMarcus is walking a razor-thin line between playing NFL football and line-producing YouTube videos for Anthony Adams.
I'm not saying what DJ said was right or wrong, just that, putting my Cutler Boner/Asshurt (||) aside for a moment, I'm actually glad that guys would stick up for Webb.
That said, I'm approaching HueyAnger levels of anti-Webb vitriol that may last 1,000 years if he doesn't get his fucking act together or make way for someone better. And someone better may not exist on this roster. So the asshurt festers.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2012, 09:28:30 AM
Also: JaMarcus Webb fucking sucks. And I think he could benefit from the support of his team's nickelback slightly more than Jay at this point. Jay doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks. JaMarcus is walking a razor-thin line between playing NFL football and line-producing YouTube videos for Anthony Adams.
I'm not saying what DJ said was right or wrong, just that, putting my Cutler Boner/Asshurt (||) aside for a moment, I'm actually glad that guys would stick up for Webb.
That said, I'm approaching HueyAnger levels of anti-Webb vitriol that may last 1,000 years if he doesn't get his fucking act together or make way for someone better. And someone better may not exist on this roster. So the asshurt festers.
But Jamarcus is hilarious! Read his Tweets, dude just like tacos and having fun. Deep down, even Cutler knows that hijinks and horseplay in the locker room is more important to winning than on field execution. This will blow over.
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
The Rams lost two left tackles to injury on Sunday. So... Murder. And shirtless hugs for everybody come Sunday. /argumenting
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
The Rams lost two left tackles to injury on Sunday. So... Murder. And shirtless hugs for everybody come Sunday. /argumenting
If they beat the Rams on Sunday and then travel to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, we can all feel good about things again.
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
The Rams lost two left tackles to injury on Sunday. So... Murder. And shirtless hugs for everybody come Sunday. /argumenting
If they beat the Rams on Sunday and then travel to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, we can all feel good about things again.
You're not the boss of me.
Quote from: CT III on September 18, 2012, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
The Rams lost two left tackles to injury on Sunday. So... Murder. And shirtless hugs for everybody come Sunday. /argumenting
If they beat the Rams on Sunday and then travel to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, we can all feel good about things again.
You're not the boss of me.
Yes I am.
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 18, 2012, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
The Rams lost two left tackles to injury on Sunday. So... Murder. And shirtless hugs for everybody come Sunday. /argumenting
If they beat the Rams on Sunday and then travel to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, we can all feel good about things again.
You're not the boss of me.
Yes I am.
Do you pay his celery?
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
The Rams lost two left tackles to injury on Sunday. So... Murder. And shirtless hugs for everybody come Sunday. /argumenting
If they beat the Rams on Sunday and then travel to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, we can all feel good about things again.
Fuck Dallas.
Quote from: Fork on September 18, 2012, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
The Rams lost two left tackles to injury on Sunday. So... Murder. And shirtless hugs for everybody come Sunday. /argumenting
If they beat the Rams on Sunday and then travel to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, we can all feel good about things again.
Fuck Dallas.
Probably your one good contribution today.
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 18, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
So here's my biggest problem with this Cutler shit: you only care about an NFL player's personality if it supposedly affects his on-field play. We as fans only get to see Cutler from afar, and see his actions one day a week, 16 weeks a year. If he is really a raging dick, and I don't disagree that he may be, the people who experience that every single day are his teammates. So we're supposed to believe that Cutler's going to lose the locker room because of one misinterpreted event on the sidelines during a game? I guarantee you that single incident changed no one on the team's opinion of him. They either know he's a dick and hate him already after three years of him, and yet have still won 20 of their last 30 games with him, meaning there's no effect from their hatred, or they like him, know his personality, and still don't care about what happened.
Glad you were totes done last week with arguing about Cutler
I tried. But the stupids. So much stupids. I apologize, Dubbs. I'll do better in the future. I hate to let you down.
Smokers don't give a shit. (http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com/)
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"This site is dedicated to the most apathetic looking athlete in the history of sports."
The defense played well but, there was the last drive before halftime that pissed me off because that's usually what they usually do. It's the garbage "prevent" defense that doesn't prevent anything other than the other team scoring points.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
The defense played well but, there was the last drive before halftime that pissed me off because that's usually what they usually do. It's the garbage "prevent" defense that doesn't prevent anything other than the other team scoring points.
It essentially forces the other team to use up all it's time and timeouts before attempting a long field goal. Remember the one time when the Colts missed the field goal? Lovie skypointed on that and Marinelli did the Clay Matthews in the mirror at halftime.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
The defense played well but, there was the last drive before halftime that pissed me off because that's usually what they usually do. It's the garbage "prevent" defense that doesn't prevent anything other than the other team scoring points.
A win is a win, I suppose.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
The defense played well but, there was the last drive before halftime that pissed me off because that's usually what they usually do. It's the garbage "prevent" defense that doesn't prevent anything other than the other team scoring points.
Hey, I don't care if the Bears defense doesn't prevent cancer, heart attacks, forest fires, nuclear war, diabetes, foreclosure, gas, yeast infections, otherwise preventable car accidents, ticks, bad Jay Cutler body language, famine, vaginal discharge, hangovers, lyme disease, HIV, pestilence, Carlos Marmol blown saves, West Nile virus, acne, bed bugs, snoring, muscle cramps, xss scripting, nightmares, underarm sweating, queefing, global financial collapse, osteoporosis, identity theft, unwanted pregnancies, razor burn, zucchini worm, child abuse, jockitch or kidney stones.
If their defense does nothing but prevent the other team from scoring points, I would love for Marinelli and Smith to use that prevent defense, please.
And if those dumbasses Tice, Bates and Cutler could call more of those "Score Touchdown" plays, that would be nice.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 24, 2012, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
The defense played well but, there was the last drive before halftime that pissed me off because that's usually what they usually do. It's the garbage "prevent" defense that doesn't prevent anything other than the other team scoring points.
It essentially forces the other team to use up all it's time and timeouts before attempting a long field goal. Remember the one time when the Colts missed the field goal? Lovie skypointed on that and Marinelli did the Clay Matthews in the mirror at halftime.
With the replacement officials, I learned that this really doesn't matter this season.
Something something better for having trolled
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 10:13:09 AM
Something something better for having trolled
I was no frolled, for the record. I expected this when I clicked on the comment,
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Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 10:13:09 AM
Something something better for having trolled
I was not frolled, for the record. I expected this when I clicked on the comment.
Your welcome'd
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 24, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 10:13:09 AM
Something something better for having trolled
I was not frolled, for the record. I expected this when I clicked on the comment.
Your welcome'd
I assumed that was his thick brogue coming out.
It's a real feather in Yeti's cap that so many of us can't differentiate between his thoughts and Fro's.
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
Boy I really feel bad for Green BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Intrepid Reader: Jim McMahon's Shoulder
*skypoint*
Quote from: flannj on September 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
On the reverse angle, it looked like dual possession to me.
But why didn't GB go for the block and run back? And why didn't Seattle just go for 2 in victory formation and make sure nothing happened?
Also, Seattle's front four looked like the Bears' pressure in the late Jauron and early Lovie days. Just dominant without blitzing.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 24, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
On the reverse angle, it looked like dual possession to me.
You need glasses.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 24, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
On the reverse angle, it looked like dual possession to me.
But why didn't GB go for the block and run back? And why didn't Seattle just go for 2 in victory formation and make sure nothing happened?
Also, Seattle's front four looked like the Bears' pressure in the late Jauron and early Lovie days. Just dominant without blitzing.
You can't return a blocked PAT in pro ball. That's an NCAA rule.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 24, 2012, 11:28:50 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 24, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
On the reverse angle, it looked like dual possession to me.
But why didn't GB go for the block and run back? And why didn't Seattle just go for 2 in victory formation and make sure nothing happened?
Also, Seattle's front four looked like the Bears' pressure in the late Jauron and early Lovie days. Just dominant without blitzing.
You can't return a blocked PAT in pro ball. That's an NCAA rule.
All bets are off with these scabs.
(http://i.imgur.com/paaZp.jpg) (http://30fps.mocksession.com/2012/09/24/this-is-your-iconic-moment-in-which-one-official-signals-touchdown-and-the-other-no-touchdown/)
Clay Matthews was kind enough to post Roger Goodell's office number on his Facebook page tonight: https://twitter.com/SteelersTide74/status/250465259037523969/photo/1/large
Hard-fought and well-earned deserved win for the Pack tonight. Bravo. They might want to clean up the pass protection though.
Ah, not as bad a replay-refs fiasco as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HscrMo8Tk6Y).
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 24, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
On the reverse angle, it looked like dual possession to me.
But why didn't GB go for the block and run back? And why didn't Seattle just go for 2 in victory formation and make sure nothing happened?
Also, Seattle's front four looked like the Bears' pressure in the late Jauron and early Lovie days. Just dominant without blitzing.
Well, so far this Bears front four has gotten 13 sacks in 3 games with a four man rush. So, happy days are here again.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 24, 2012, 11:28:50 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 24, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
On the reverse angle, it looked like dual possession to me.
But why didn't GB go for the block and run back? And why didn't Seattle just go for 2 in victory formation and make sure nothing happened?
Also, Seattle's front four looked like the Bears' pressure in the late Jauron and early current Lovie days. Just dominant without blitzing.
You can't return a blocked PAT in pro ball. That's an NCAA rule.
I fixed another error. In this upside down era of replacement refs it's comforting to come here knowing that CFiHP will have at least a couple of things wrong in each post.
Quote from: R-V on September 25, 2012, 09:00:28 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 24, 2012, 11:28:50 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 24, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
On the reverse angle, it looked like dual possession to me.
But why didn't GB go for the block and run back? And why didn't Seattle just go for 2 in victory formation and make sure nothing happened?
Also, Seattle's front four looked like the Bears' pressure in the late Jauron and early current Lovie days. Just dominant without blitzing.
You can't return a blocked PAT in pro ball. That's an NCAA rule.
I fixed another error. In this upside down era of replacement refs it's comforting to come here knowing that CFiHP will have at least a couple of things wrong in each post.
To be fair, Marinelli has them blitzing with the safety, nickel and Briggs a fair bit.
Quote from: Brownie on September 25, 2012, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 25, 2012, 09:00:28 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 24, 2012, 11:28:50 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 24, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Fuck Green Bay... but that was horrendous.
On the reverse angle, it looked like dual possession to me.
But why didn't GB go for the block and run back? And why didn't Seattle just go for 2 in victory formation and make sure nothing happened?
Also, Seattle's front four looked like the Bears' pressure in the late Jauron and early current Lovie days. Just dominant without blitzing.
You can't return a blocked PAT in pro ball. That's an NCAA rule.
I fixed another error. In this upside down era of replacement refs it's comforting to come here knowing that CFiHP will have at least a couple of things wrong in each post.
To be fair, Marinelli has them blitzing with the safety, nickel and Briggs a fair bit.
He's worked in some blitzes, but they're rushing with just four on 86% of their snaps, and they're bringing it home. Tampa Two. It's wonderful when it works.
Fuck Dallas.
In the ass.
With a cactus.
It's been a little over 12 hours and I'm still laughing at the Packers.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 25, 2012, 11:24:33 AM
It's been a little over 12 hours and I'm still laughing at the Packers.
Me too. I even did a Wonka meme.
Quote from: Brownie on September 25, 2012, 08:29:26 AM
Ah, not as bad a replay-refs fiasco as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HscrMo8Tk6Y).
The Bears deserved to lose based on Ditka's hat.
Fuck you.
Briggs.
Fuck Dallas
Tomorrow will be one of those days I enjoy living in Dallas.
Primarily because people will be screaming for Neckbeard to start the next game.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2012, 10:37:41 PM
Tomorrow will be one of those days I enjoy living in Dallas.
Primarily because people will be screaming for Neckbeard to start the next game.
I'm willing to listen to offers on the site name.
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Covering receivers really does wonders.
They're putting a Victoria's Secret in Cowboy Stadium (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/09/28/victoria-secret-underwear-cowboys-stadium/70001359/1).
Quote from: Fork on October 02, 2012, 08:18:47 AM
They're putting a Victoria's Secret in Cowboy Stadium (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/09/28/victoria-secret-underwear-cowboys-stadium/70001359/1).
Yay?
That was beautiful. F--- Tony Romo, Jerrah Jones, Gums Austin, and the Cowboys. And lol @ Dez Bryant.
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
Well they don't play it every play. Just the ones where they give up yards.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 02, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
Well they don't play it every play. Just the ones where they give up yards.
The Bears need a more glamorous defense that calls for lots of blitzing of white guys with long hair. Something like the Packers defense. Sure, they're giving up 50 yards more a game rushing, have 9 fewer turnovers, and have allowed 12 more net points per game, but have you SEEN that white guy flex after a sack? Swoon!
Quote from: R-V on October 02, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 02, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
Well they don't play it every play. Just the ones where they give up yards.
The Bears need a more glamorous defense that calls for lots of blitzing of white guys with long hair. Something like the Packers defense. Sure, they're giving up 50 yards more a game rushing, have 9 fewer turnovers, and have allowed 12 more net points per game, but have you SEEN that white guy flex after a sack? Swoon!
TIM SHAW?!?!?
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
11-on-11 is the way to go. Just pick a guy and cover him.
Quote from: morpheus on October 02, 2012, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
11-on-11 is the way to go. Just pick a guy and cover him.
Eli: meatball font :: RV : Frodog quotes
Quote from: R-V on October 02, 2012, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: morpheus on October 02, 2012, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
11-on-11 is the way to go. Just pick a guy and cover him.
Eli: meatball font :: RV : Frodog quotes
Noted.
Quote from: R-V on October 02, 2012, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: morpheus on October 02, 2012, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
11-on-11 is the way to go. Just pick a guy and cover him.
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Sorry for not being inclusive enough.
DOSE BEARSSS NEED TA DROP DAT COVER WHO? DEFENSE AND RUN DA MAN TA MA COVERAGE MY FRENT. 11 DITKAS COULD OF DEFENDED ANY TEAM IN FOOTBAW.
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Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
11-on-11 is the way to go. Just pick a guy and cover him.
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Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 02, 2012, 02:52:59 PM
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Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
11-on-11 is the way to go. Just pick a guy and cover him.
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I used a FroDog quote for the Peanut thread title and felt like shit about it. It won't happen again.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 02, 2012, 04:51:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 02, 2012, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: morpheus on October 02, 2012, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
Where's the thread where idiots bitch about the cover 2 because the Bears gave up yards and a few points to an NFL offense?
Scenario: the Cowboys appear to be completing passes to their own team intermittently between interceptions and sacks
"HEY!" said the moron at home watching tee vee. "This cover 2 sucks! We always (ALWAYS) give up points here. This is why I hate the cover 2. I wish we'd get rid of it."
60 points allowed in 4 games with the shitty cover 2. Perennially one of the best, most stingiest defenses in the league under Lovie Smith. Takeaways like crazy.
And people have the gall to bitch about giving up yards in a pro football game to a professional offense who is scheming and plotting for a week straight to do exactly that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
If the Bears gave up 100 yards a game and zero points people would still find a way to lose their shit about the manner in which those 100 yards were gained.
As I see it, the problem with the Cover-2 is that, by my count, the offense has 11 guys. That leaves 9 men open on every play. I don't pretend to have all the answers but this is just bad scheme-math.
11-on-11 is the way to go. Just pick a guy and cover him.
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I used a FroDog quote for the Peanut thread title and felt like shit about it. It won't happen again.
Eli may have used a FroDog quote as the foundation for a post about the Cover 2 above. And I laughed at it.
So when Tillman runs back a touchdown (which he does like all the time) do Fro Dog and BC get angry?
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 06:31:05 PM
So when Tillman runs back a touchdown (which he does like all the time) do Fro Dog and BC get angry?
Yes, because I come to their houses and piss in their sock drawers every time that happens.
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 06:31:05 PM
So when Tillman runs back a touchdown (which he does like all the time) do Fro Dog and BC get angry?
BC goes full Milquetoast Color Analyst:
Quote from: BCTony Romo with a great touchdown pass to the wide open Peanut Tillman. #beardown
LOL!FroDog just goes with a casual 'told you so':
Quote from: FroDogCovering receivers really does wonders.
Maybe someone finally tore up Lovie's stupid pills scrip.
(You know... since you asked.)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 02, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 02, 2012, 06:31:05 PM
So when Tillman runs back a touchdown (which he does like all the time) do Fro Dog and BC get angry?
BC goes full Milquetoast Color Analyst:
Quote from: BCTony Romo with a great touchdown pass to the wide open Peanut Tillman. #beardown
LOL!
FroDog just goes with a casual 'told you so':
Quote from: FroDogCovering receivers really does wonders.
Maybe someone finally tore up Lovie's stupid pills scrip.
(You know... since you asked.)
The Fro Dog quote kills me. As though the Bears/Tillman and Jennings have done literally anything different this year except have better safety help behind them and a better pass rush up front.
Also, posting this one for the "UTLER HAS HORRIBLE MECKANECKS N TROWS OFF HIS BACK FOOT TOO MUCH" crowd:
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Not that he doesn't throw picks off his back foot, but he also completes several passes a game off of it, too, because if you're a strong-armed QB with an often porous line such things are necessary
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2012, 07:48:04 PM
As though the Bears/Tillman and Jennings have done literally anything different this year except have better safety help behind them and a better pass rush up front.
As if!
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2012, 09:02:32 PM
Also, posting this one for the "UTLER HAS HORRIBLE MECKANECKS N TROWS OFF HIS BACK FOOT TOO MUCH" crowd:
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Not that he doesn't throw picks off his back foot, but he also completes several passes a game off of it, too, because if you're a strong-armed QB with an often porous line such things are necessary
Someone should order Apex a gross of Windex.
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Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2012, 09:02:32 PM
Also, posting this one for the "UTLER HAS HORRIBLE MECKANECKS N TROWS OFF HIS BACK FOOT TOO MUCH" crowd:
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Not that he doesn't throw picks off his back foot, but he also completes several passes a game off of it, too, because if you're a strong-armed QB with an often porous line such things are necessary
Someone should order Apex a gross of Windex.
I'm inventing a new term for what I did while watching that. Jazzterbating. I'm beating off while jazz-handing. It is that good.
BRING BACK RON RIVIERA. DAT GUY KNOWS HOWTA BEAR DOWN. (http://deadspin.com/5947937)
The Big 10's bottomless chum bucket has claimed Gabe Carimi!
Quote from: CT III on October 07, 2012, 04:53:38 PM
The Big 10's bottomless chum bucket has claimed Gabe Carimi!
The Corey Wootton Comeback Tour rolls on with another sack. The Big Ten rules!
The Bears might be good. Maybe. I don't have the data in front of me.
I'm not really sure where the idea that I hated Tillman came from. A couple years ago I gave the assessment that he relatively struggles against smaller, faster receivers while doing a great job against bigger receivers. I also said that Tillman might eventually have to move to safety if he lost some speed.
I still think both assessments are correct, but that doesn't get in the way of my thinking that Tillman has been and is a very good cornerback overall.
Quote from: BC on October 07, 2012, 09:45:57 PM
I'm not really sure where the idea that I hated Tillman came from. A couple years ago I gave the assessment that he relatively struggles against smaller, faster receivers while doing a great job against bigger receivers. I also said that Tillman might eventually have to move to safety if he lost some speed.
I still think both assessments are correct, but that doesn't get in the way of my thinking that Tillman has been and is a very good cornerback overall.
Thank God that's cleared up.
Quote from: BC on October 07, 2012, 09:45:57 PM
I'm not really sure where the idea that I hated Tillman came from. A couple years ago I gave the assessment that he relatively struggles against smaller, faster receivers while doing a great job against bigger receivers. I also said that Tillman might eventually have to move to safety if he lost some speed.
I still think both assessments are correct, but that doesn't get in the way of my thinking that Tillman has been and is a very good cornerback overall.
I saw Relatively Struggles open up for Because Fuck Steve Trachsel. Rocked my face off, they did.
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Love it.
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IF DAT CUTLER WAS A REAL LEADER YOU WOODA SEEN HIM HURDLE TREE GUYS, MY FRENT.
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Quote from: Eli on October 08, 2012, 08:34:57 AM
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IF DAT CUTLER WAS A REAL LEADER YOU WOODA SEEN HIM HURDLE TREE GUYS, MY FRENT.
STANDIN AHN TOP OF THE UDDER'S SHOULDERS MY FRENT, JUST LIKE SWEETNESS YOOSED TO DO WHEN HE LEAPED INTO DA END ZONE LIKE SUPERMAN.
Somebody get SKO a fainting couch, dem Bears are finally getting de national respect dey deserve (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8506988/the-top-teams-game-rest-week-6-news)!
QuoteYes, that's right, the Bears. The same Bears who capitulated in Green Bay in Week 2 and briefly became a national punch line because Jay Cutler threw four interceptions. That's a rough loss, but it also came in a game where Matt Forte left with an injury during the opening drive of the second half. That forced the Bears to change their offense on the fly and integrate Michael Bush into the starting lineup without many practice reps. As you might expect, the Bears are significantly better with Forte around; he's averaged a full 4.7 yards per carry this year, well ahead of backups Bush (3.6 yards per pop) and Kahlil Bell (2.7). When Forte is around, there's nothing the Bears don't do well. They're proficient running the ball, adequate throwing it, and well above-average in all facets of defense and special teams. The emergence of Henry Melton and Shea McClellin as secondary pass rushers has freed up space for Julius Peppers, while Tim Jennings has had a career year in five games at cornerback: He's set or tied career highs in interceptions (four) and passes defended (10) with 11 games left to go.
And while everybody else has a close call or two on their résumé, the Bears have been dominant in their four wins this season. In their three wins against average-or-better competition — the Colts, Cowboys, and Rams — Chicago won by a minimum of 16 points. Their one game against a cream puff, the Jaguars, resulted in a 41-3 shellacking. Every other team on this list, besides perhaps the Texans, had at least one game in which a change on one play would turn their win into a loss. That hasn't been true for the Bears. They've had some luck in producing five defensive touchdowns in five games this year, but the defense would still be good and the margins of victory would still be impressive without the bonus touchdowns from the defense.
If you want to hop on the Bears bandwagon (a place where I admittedly have to hide, myself), now's the time. Over the next three weeks, Chicago is home for games against the Lions and Panthers before traveling to Tennessee. At that point, the Bears might very well be 7-1, but their schedule will become something resembling punishment: Their next six games include matchups against the Seahawks (thankfully, in Chicago), Texans, Packers, 49ers, and a home-and-home with the Vikings. They might not have the best record in football by the time they're through with that month and a half of hell, but if they can go 3-3 or 4-2 across that stretch, I wouldn't budge them from this spot.
Quote from: R-V on October 15, 2012, 12:32:54 PM
Somebody get SKO a fainting couch, dem Bears are finally getting de national respect dey deserve (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8506988/the-top-teams-game-rest-week-6-news)!
QuoteYes, that's right, the Bears. The same Bears who capitulated in Green Bay in Week 2 and briefly became a national punch line because Jay Cutler threw four interceptions. That's a rough loss, but it also came in a game where Matt Forte left with an injury during the opening drive of the second half. That forced the Bears to change their offense on the fly and integrate Michael Bush into the starting lineup without many practice reps. As you might expect, the Bears are significantly better with Forte around; he's averaged a full 4.7 yards per carry this year, well ahead of backups Bush (3.6 yards per pop) and Kahlil Bell (2.7). When Forte is around, there's nothing the Bears don't do well. They're proficient running the ball, adequate throwing it, and well above-average in all facets of defense and special teams. The emergence of Henry Melton and Shea McClellin as secondary pass rushers has freed up space for Julius Peppers, while Tim Jennings has had a career year in five games at cornerback: He's set or tied career highs in interceptions (four) and passes defended (10) with 11 games left to go.
And while everybody else has a close call or two on their résumé, the Bears have been dominant in their four wins this season. In their three wins against average-or-better competition — the Colts, Cowboys, and Rams — Chicago won by a minimum of 16 points. Their one game against a cream puff, the Jaguars, resulted in a 41-3 shellacking. Every other team on this list, besides perhaps the Texans, had at least one game in which a change on one play would turn their win into a loss. That hasn't been true for the Bears. They've had some luck in producing five defensive touchdowns in five games this year, but the defense would still be good and the margins of victory would still be impressive without the bonus touchdowns from the defense.
If you want to hop on the Bears bandwagon (a place where I admittedly have to hide, myself), now's the time. Over the next three weeks, Chicago is home for games against the Lions and Panthers before traveling to Tennessee. At that point, the Bears might very well be 7-1, but their schedule will become something resembling punishment: Their next six games include matchups against the Seahawks (thankfully, in Chicago), Texans, Packers, 49ers, and a home-and-home with the Vikings. They might not have the best record in football by the time they're through with that month and a half of hell, but if they can go 3-3 or 4-2 across that stretch, I wouldn't budge them from this spot.
Don't worry, SKO will just start a fake blog talking shit about the Bears so he has continued reason for existence.
Quote from: PenPho on October 15, 2012, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 15, 2012, 12:32:54 PM
Somebody get SKO a fainting couch, dem Bears are finally getting de national respect dey deserve (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8506988/the-top-teams-game-rest-week-6-news)!
QuoteYes, that's right, the Bears. The same Bears who capitulated in Green Bay in Week 2 and briefly became a national punch line because Jay Cutler threw four interceptions. That's a rough loss, but it also came in a game where Matt Forte left with an injury during the opening drive of the second half. That forced the Bears to change their offense on the fly and integrate Michael Bush into the starting lineup without many practice reps. As you might expect, the Bears are significantly better with Forte around; he's averaged a full 4.7 yards per carry this year, well ahead of backups Bush (3.6 yards per pop) and Kahlil Bell (2.7). When Forte is around, there's nothing the Bears don't do well. They're proficient running the ball, adequate throwing it, and well above-average in all facets of defense and special teams. The emergence of Henry Melton and Shea McClellin as secondary pass rushers has freed up space for Julius Peppers, while Tim Jennings has had a career year in five games at cornerback: He's set or tied career highs in interceptions (four) and passes defended (10) with 11 games left to go.
And while everybody else has a close call or two on their résumé, the Bears have been dominant in their four wins this season. In their three wins against average-or-better competition — the Colts, Cowboys, and Rams — Chicago won by a minimum of 16 points. Their one game against a cream puff, the Jaguars, resulted in a 41-3 shellacking. Every other team on this list, besides perhaps the Texans, had at least one game in which a change on one play would turn their win into a loss. That hasn't been true for the Bears. They've had some luck in producing five defensive touchdowns in five games this year, but the defense would still be good and the margins of victory would still be impressive without the bonus touchdowns from the defense.
If you want to hop on the Bears bandwagon (a place where I admittedly have to hide, myself), now's the time. Over the next three weeks, Chicago is home for games against the Lions and Panthers before traveling to Tennessee. At that point, the Bears might very well be 7-1, but their schedule will become something resembling punishment: Their next six games include matchups against the Seahawks (thankfully, in Chicago), Texans, Packers, 49ers, and a home-and-home with the Vikings. They might not have the best record in football by the time they're through with that month and a half of hell, but if they can go 3-3 or 4-2 across that stretch, I wouldn't budge them from this spot.
Don't worry, SKO will just start a fake blog talking shit about the Bears so he has continued reason for existence.
/quickly burns all of the evidence proving that I own FireDustyBaker2 and FireRonTurner
Also, it's odd. There was a time when Bill Barnwell always dismissed the Bears as not as good as their record because turnovers are flukes and all that, and therefore I hated him. But now that he's declared them the NFL's best team I have no choice but to declare him the world's foremost authority on football.
THIS TEAM IS DRIVING ME FUCKING NUTS. Every time Jay Cutler goes down, I hold my breath. Every time the Bears don't run the damn ball when they are suppose to, I want to punch Mike Tice in the fucking nuts. Every time I see Jay Cutler go down hard, I hold my breath. Every time the Bears suck ass on defense by allowing teams to drive willingly down the field late in games, I want to throw my remote across the room. The Bears should have been up at least 20 and instead, they are an onside kick recovery away from losing the game because let's face it, the Lions would have won the game because the Bears, all of a sudden, went back to being chicken shit.
Offense: "DAT JAY CUTLER IZN'T TOUGH TO PLAY CHICAGO BEAR FOOTBALL MY FRENDT." FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER. PROTECT THIS GUY DAMNIT. Because if the line cannot protect him, sooner or later, we're going to witness more than just two or three plays from Jason Campbell Todd Collins and he sucks. The Bears should seriously consider signing another quarterback. I don't give a crap if it's Josh McCown or (Here's the meatball in me talking) Chandler Harnish to the roster. As soon as Cutler went down, I immediately thought it was a concussion or a broken collarbone. He was also sacked five times. On the first drive, the Bears score a touchdown. It looked like they were on their way to kicking to shit out of the Lions. They get two field goals but on that last one, the Bears had 1st and goal at the 4 and three straight passes were called; two of which were nearly picked off. RUN. THE. FUCKING. BALL. DAMNIT. The offense was missing most of this game. For crying out loud, can the false start/holding/unnecessary roughness penalties stop? Also, get Devin Hester away from the offense. He isn't a wide receiver. He will never be a wide receiver.
Defense: The defense kicked ass in the first half. Props to Charles Tillman for making sure Calvin Johnson wasn't a factor. While only getting three catches, he forced two fumbles and knocked the ball out of Johnson's hands in the endzone which sustained the shutout to that point. As the Bears defense usually goes in all of these years, they seem to take their foot off of the gas in the second half and let teams back in games. We saw that in this game. Stafford drove the Lions down the field with ease only for some fluke fumbles and an interception with a desperate throw. Too bad Stafford didn't give a shit about his face being in the grass after that interception because he got the ball back and promptly, scored on the Bears defense and gave his team a chance. The defense cannot rely on forcing turnovers every game. This shit will slide in these types of games but in the playoffs, if they get there, they will be fucked. I give credit where credit is due but the defense gave up 340 yards; most of them in the second half. I cannot understand why they can't just stick to what has worked like in the last few games. Getting back to those fluke fumbles, if Joique Bell doesn't fumble at the goal line, the Bears probably lose this game.
Special Teams: Robbie Gould nailed two field goals and another was blocked. The special teams did recover a fumble by Stefan Logan and it lead to one of those field goals. Two things pissed me off about the special teams. First, what's with the illegal block in the back/holding penalties? Why do players do this while knowing it's not allowed? It's fucking annoying on every level. Lastly, Devin Hester should be back on every kickoff/punt. There were some punts where he wasn't on the field. Is Lovie that stupid to think that someone else back there is better?
Ugh. The Panthers are in town Sunday. I don't care about their 1-5 record. If anybody remembers last year's game (I was there), Cam Newton had a field day but the Bears found a way outscore them.
The Bears ended up getting Alshon Jeffery in the Greg Olsen trade, right? Wrong?
Help me out. Had some Cowboys fan telling me the Bears should have kept Olsen.
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 08:39:43 AM
The Bears ended up getting Alshon Jeffery in the Greg Olsen trade, right? Wrong?
Help me out. Had some Cowboys fan telling me the Bears should have kept Olsen.
Wiki says that pick was from Dallas and then from St Louis before that.
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 08:39:43 AM
The Bears ended up getting Alshon Jeffery in the Greg Olsen trade, right? Wrong?
Help me out. Had some Cowboys fan telling me the Bears should have kept Olsen.
Wiki says that pick was from Dallas and then from St Louis before that.
DPD, that pick, being the Alshon Jeffrey pick. Olsen netted the Bears the third round pick of the Panthers, which wiki tells me the Chargers picked: "from Carolina via Chicago and Miami".
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on October 23, 2012, 06:33:27 AM
Defense: The defense kicked ass in the first half. Props to Charles Tillman for making sure Calvin Johnson wasn't a factor. While only getting three catches, he forced two fumbles and knocked the ball out of Johnson's hands in the endzone which sustained the shutout to that point. As the Bears defense usually goes in all of these years, they seem to take their foot off of the gas in the second half and let teams back in games. We saw that in this game. Stafford drove the Lions down the field with ease only for some fluke fumbles and an interception with a desperate throw. Too bad Stafford didn't give a shit about his face being in the grass after that interception because he got the ball back and promptly, scored on the Bears defense and gave his team a chance. The defense cannot rely on forcing turnovers every game. This shit will slide in these types of games but in the playoffs, if they get there, they will be fucked. I give credit where credit is due but the defense gave up 340 yards; most of them in the second half. I cannot understand why they can't just stick to what has worked like in the last few games. Getting back to those fluke fumbles, if Joique Bell doesn't fumble at the goal line, the Bears probably lose this game.
(Yes, I know who the real author is.) For fuck's sake, the Bears have led the league in takeaways for practically all of Lovie's tenure. How can these be "flukes" when there are so Goddamned many of them? And *if* they make the playoffs? Jesus, Fro.
I thought Charles Tillman relatively excelled against Megatron last night.
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:50:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 08:39:43 AM
The Bears ended up getting Alshon Jeffery in the Greg Olsen trade, right? Wrong?
Help me out. Had some Cowboys fan telling me the Bears should have kept Olsen.
Wiki says that pick was from Dallas and then from St Louis before that.
DPD, that pick, being the Alshon Jeffrey pick. Olsen netted the Bears the third round pick of the Panthers, which wiki tells me the Chargers picked: "from Carolina via Chicago and Miami".
So it turned into nothing. Thanks for checking.
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:50:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 08:39:43 AM
The Bears ended up getting Alshon Jeffery in the Greg Olsen trade, right? Wrong?
Help me out. Had some Cowboys fan telling me the Bears should have kept Olsen.
Wiki says that pick was from Dallas and then from St Louis before that.
DPD, that pick, being the Alshon Jeffrey pick. Olsen netted the Bears the third round pick of the Panthers, which wiki tells me the Chargers picked: "from Carolina via Chicago and Miami".
So it turned into nothing. Thanks for checking.
Well, it still could be something, but I'm not going to follow the Miami.... wait. Miami trade.. Marshall? FUCK YOU DALLAS FAN!
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 09:09:58 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:50:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 08:39:43 AM
The Bears ended up getting Alshon Jeffery in the Greg Olsen trade, right? Wrong?
Help me out. Had some Cowboys fan telling me the Bears should have kept Olsen.
Wiki says that pick was from Dallas and then from St Louis before that.
DPD, that pick, being the Alshon Jeffrey pick. Olsen netted the Bears the third round pick of the Panthers, which wiki tells me the Chargers picked: "from Carolina via Chicago and Miami".
So it turned into nothing. Thanks for checking.
Well, it still could be something, but I'm not going to follow the Miami.... wait. Miami trade.. Marshall? FUCK YOU DALLAS FAN!
Correct. The Bears traded two No. 3s for Marshall, one of which was the 3 they received for Olsen. I've learned to hate Olsen with the fire of a thousand dragon sharts for reasons that do not exist.
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 08:39:43 AM
The Bears ended up getting Alshon Jeffery in the Greg Olsen trade, right? Wrong?
Help me out. Had some Cowboys fan telling me the Bears should have kept Olsen.
They got Brandon Marshall for Greg Olsen. They traded Olsen for a 3rd. Traded that third and another third to Miami for Brandon. We'll call it a PUSH so far.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gould-field-goal-lifts-bears-203038058--nfl.html
QuoteEven though Jennings now has six interceptions, the Panthers' Smith wasn't heaping praise on him. ''I know you want to pump him up. I've been kicking his (butt) every time I've come up here and today no was different. Do you disagree? I didn't think so.''
(http://i.imgur.com/FNFV0.jpg)
See you next year, and the year after that you son of a bitch.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gould-field-goal-lifts-bears-203038058--nfl.html
QuoteEven though Jennings now has six interceptions, the Panthers' Smith wasn't heaping praise on him. ''I know you want to pump him up. I've been kicking his (butt) every time I've come up here and today no was different. Do you disagree? I didn't think so.''
So... Every one time (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201110020chi.htm)?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 28, 2012, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gould-field-goal-lifts-bears-203038058--nfl.html
QuoteEven though Jennings now has six interceptions, the Panthers' Smith wasn't heaping praise on him. ''I know you want to pump him up. I've been kicking his (butt) every time I've come up here and today no was different. Do you disagree? I didn't think so.''
So... Every one time (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201110020chi.htm)?
But he ain't lyin' - that was a whoopin.
Seriously though - 0-2, Steve.
Quote from: Slaky on October 28, 2012, 10:18:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 28, 2012, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gould-field-goal-lifts-bears-203038058--nfl.html
QuoteEven though Jennings now has six interceptions, the Panthers' Smith wasn't heaping praise on him. ''I know you want to pump him up. I've been kicking his (butt) every time I've come up here and today no was different. Do you disagree? I didn't think so.''
So... Every one time (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201110020chi.htm)?
But he ain't lyin' - that was a whoopin.
Seriously though - 0-2, Steve.
Through two games - Tim Jennings TDs - 1, Steve Smith TDs - 0
Shut up Steve.
This game reminded me of the one against the Packers earlier this year. For most of the game, the offense sucked completely and while the defense wasn't as good as that game, they still found a way to minimize the damage. This game still pissed me off on every level. The Bears played like shit until the last quarter. When the Bears play good teams (Texans, 49ers, etc.), do they win these type of games? The answer is no.
I believe there were two personal fouls that helped the Panthers score on I believe, two drives. This lack of discipline needs to stop. I don't know why Tillman wasn't on Steve Smith during this game because Jennings couldn't stop him. I want to than the Soldier Field grass for making Steve Smith slip, letting Tim Jennings get an easy pick giving the Bears the lead. I just had a flashback of Johnny Knox slipping on the same grass. I'll stop there.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on October 29, 2012, 07:51:18 AM
This game reminded me of the one against the Packers earlier this year. For most of the game, the offense sucked completely and while the defense wasn't as good as that game, they still found a way to minimize the damage. This game still pissed me off on every level. The Bears played like shit until the last quarter. When the Bears play good teams (Texans, 49ers, etc.), do they win these type of games? The answer is no.
I believe there were two personal fouls that helped the Panthers score on I believe, two drives. This lack of discipline needs to stop. I don't know why Tillman wasn't on Steve Smith during this game because Jennings couldn't stop him. I want to than the Soldier Field grass for making Steve Smith slip, letting Tim Jennings get an easy pick giving the Bears the lead. I just had a flashback of Johnny Knox slipping on the same grass. I'll stop there.
If only we could believe this.
Jesus fucking christ the media in this town is going to asplode my fucking brain.
The Bears are 6-1 with the 3rd best point differential in the league. Their only loss came to a team that most would probably agree is going to end the season with a pretty good record.
Yet all I'm seeing is that they were lucky to escape with a win, this team has SERIOUS problems that need fixing and Cutler may have said something mean about fans.
Quote from: R-V on October 29, 2012, 08:52:34 AM
Jesus fucking christ the media in this town is going to asplode my fucking brain.
The Bears are 6-1 with the 3rd best point differential in the league. Their only loss came to a team that most would probably agree is going to end the season with a pretty good record.
Yet all I'm seeing is that they were lucky to escape with a win, this team has SERIOUS problems that need fixing and Cutler may have said something mean about fans.
Sounds like somebody's ripe for a little Dan McGrath reading...
I don't care if Jay Cutler was almost perfect in the 4th quarter and led the Bears to a comeback win on a day when their defense couldn't play as well as they usually do.
WAS HE AFFABLE? DID HE BLOW KISSES TO PEOPLE?
Quote from: Slaky on October 28, 2012, 10:18:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 28, 2012, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gould-field-goal-lifts-bears-203038058--nfl.html
QuoteEven though Jennings now has six interceptions, the Panthers' Smith wasn't heaping praise on him. ''I know you want to pump him up. I've been kicking his (butt) every time I've come up here and today no was different. Do you disagree? I didn't think so.''
So... Every one time (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201110020chi.htm)?
But he ain't lyin' - that was a whoopin.
Seriously though - 0-2, Steve.
"The Panthers avoided Charles Tillman (just three balls thrown into his coverage for one reception) but went after Tim Jennings 17 times. They did pick up 127 yards, but with less than 50% of them complete (8) along with two picks and a pass deflection, Jennings actually walked away allowing a quarterback rating of 32.8." Eat shit, Steve.
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
We didn't have the game here, but I heard it on the radio for a while and the announcers were killing Carimi. Sounded like he was getting abused by Charles Johnson.
Quote from: PenPho on October 29, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
We didn't have the game here, but I heard it on the radio for a while and the announcers were killing Carimi. Sounded like he was getting abused by Charles Johnson.
Carimi has been, how do we say this, bad.
Quote from: Slaky on October 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 29, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
We didn't have the game here, but I heard it on the radio for a while and the announcers were killing Carimi. Sounded like he was getting abused by Charles Johnson.
Carimi has been, how do we say this, bad.
He's awful. Extremely awful. He's a goddamn dumpster fire. J'Marcus Webb's allowed just 2 sacks in the 6 games that didn't involve him being matched up against Clay Matthews. PFF had him ranked as the #23 pass blocking tackle in football out of 65 qualifiers before last week, I believe. Gabe was the fourth worst. I'm thinking that ranking may have gone even farther down. I hope it's just technique and he can get it sorted out, but his first round status has to be the only thing saving him at this point, and you can't imagine that'll keep him there much longer against the Texans and 49ers.
I heard an idiot on The Score this morning (like most days) saying that the Bears should trade Devin Hester before the deadline Thursday. To be honest, I believe that dweeb Matt Spiegel agreed with him.
Why do people want the greatest returner of all time traded? Do these idiots not watch how other teams react when he is back there waiting for a kickoff/punt return. Let's just take Sunday for an example. Rivera has the Panthers doing squib kicks on every kickoff and the punter doing corner kicks (the last one only going six yards) because of him. I do wish he would stay off the field during the offense as I have repeated that for many years. He sucks as a wide receiver but as a punt/kickoff returner, put him back there.
If Mike Tice ever figures out how to run the offense properly, the Bears can make teams pay dearly for those errors. Anyone who says Hester should be traded needs their TV slammed over their heads.
Quote from: Fork on November 01, 2012, 01:49:39 PM
I heard an idiot on The Score this morning (like most days) saying that the Bears should trade Devin Hester before the deadline Thursday. To be honest, I believe that dweeb Matt Spiegel agreed with him.
Why do people want the greatest returner of all time traded? Do these idiots not watch how other teams react when he is back there waiting for a kickoff/punt return. Let's just take Sunday for an example. Rivera has the Panthers doing squib kicks on every kickoff and the punter doing corner kicks (the last one only going six yards) because of him. I do wish he would stay off the field during the offense as I have repeated that for many years. He sucks as a wide receiver but as a punt/kickoff returner, put him back there.
If Mike Tice ever figures out how to run the offense properly, the Bears can make teams pay dearly for those errors. Anyone who says Hester should be traded needs their TV slammed over their heads.
Does this mean establishing the run to set up the play action? Or perhaps reintroduction of the single wing?
Quote from: morpheus on November 01, 2012, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 01, 2012, 01:49:39 PM
I heard an idiot on The Score this morning (like most days) saying that the Bears should trade Devin Hester before the deadline Thursday. To be honest, I believe that dweeb Matt Spiegel agreed with him.
Why do people want the greatest returner of all time traded? Do these idiots not watch how other teams react when he is back there waiting for a kickoff/punt return. Let's just take Sunday for an example. Rivera has the Panthers doing squib kicks on every kickoff and the punter doing corner kicks (the last one only going six yards) because of him. I do wish he would stay off the field during the offense as I have repeated that for many years. He sucks as a wide receiver but as a punt/kickoff returner, put him back there.
If Mike Tice ever figures out how to run the offense properly, the Bears can make teams pay dearly for those errors. Anyone who says Hester should be traded needs their TV slammed over their heads.
Does this mean establishing the run to set up the play action? Or perhaps reintroduction of the single wing?
I'd like it he taught the offensive linemen how to do their jobs. It's 11 on 11. Pick a guy and block him.
Damn Mike Tice. Does he not enjoy running the football? I saw some drives where it would be obvious that the right thing to do would be to run the football. First, the drive that lead to the safety. Instead of running the ball to try to get some breathing room, he has Cutler drop back in the endzone. He nearly gets sacked but got away but then, a penalty for illegal hands to the face. Another one of those drives came after the two-minute warning in the first half. The Bears are up 31-2 and are about to score again. What does Tice do? He sets up an empty backfield for Cutler only to have him fumble the ball and the Titans take it to mid-field and end up getting a field goal. I am thinking to myself that if they scored again, maybe Cutler and some of the other starters would be out of the game to rest and instead, they are playing into the fourth quarter.
Anywho, fuck Fro Dog and all. Anybody want to talk about the Bears? Because they're really fucking good at football. Gabe Carimi is an inch away from the firebarn, but the rest of these guys make me happy in my pants and that's all there is to it.
Quote from: SKO on November 04, 2012, 10:06:11 PM
Anywho, fuck Fro Dog and all. Anybody want to talk about the Bears? Because they're really fucking good at football. Gabe Carimi is an inch away from the firebarn, but the rest of these guys make me happy in my pants and that's all there is to it.
I could do with seeing the offense come out and putting together multiple, first-half, TD drives and looking very good for a whole game. Gabe Carimi might be responsible for their inability to do this so far.
But Forte looked the best he did all season. And this is a Titans team that beat the Steelers at home - so I'm not keen on anyone who talks this win down.
Nice to see the Bears finally get on the board in the Deserved Win column.
No, Fork.
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 29, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
We didn't have the game here, but I heard it on the radio for a while and the announcers were killing Carimi. Sounded like he was getting abused by Charles Johnson.
Carimi has been, how do we say this, bad.
He's awful. Extremely awful. He's a goddamn dumpster fire. J'Marcus Webb's allowed just 2 sacks in the 6 games that didn't involve him being matched up against Clay Matthews. PFF had him ranked as the #23 pass blocking tackle in football out of 65 qualifiers before last week, I believe. Gabe was the fourth worst. I'm thinking that ranking may have gone even farther down. I hope it's just technique and he can get it sorted out, but his first round status has to be the only thing saving him at this point, and you can't imagine that'll keep him there much longer against the Texans and 49ers.
I'm not being funny, but J'Marcus? Really? Was the name J'Dave already taken by somebody in the family? Or J'Brian? J'Colin?
Fuck sake.
Quote from: Tonker on November 05, 2012, 01:16:40 AM
I'm not being funny, but J'Marcus? Really? Was the name J'Dave already taken by somebody in the family? Or J'Brian? J'Colin?
Fuck sake.
Why won't these goddamn black kids just stay the hell off Tonker's goddamn lawn already?
Quote from: Tonker on November 05, 2012, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 29, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
We didn't have the game here, but I heard it on the radio for a while and the announcers were killing Carimi. Sounded like he was getting abused by Charles Johnson.
Carimi has been, how do we say this, bad.
He's awful. Extremely awful. He's a goddamn dumpster fire. J'Marcus Webb's allowed just 2 sacks in the 6 games that didn't involve him being matched up against Clay Matthews. PFF had him ranked as the #23 pass blocking tackle in football out of 65 qualifiers before last week, I believe. Gabe was the fourth worst. I'm thinking that ranking may have gone even farther down. I hope it's just technique and he can get it sorted out, but his first round status has to be the only thing saving him at this point, and you can't imagine that'll keep him there much longer against the Texans and 49ers.
I'm not being funny, but J'Marcus? Really? Was the name J'Dave already taken by somebody in the family? Or J'Brian? J'Colin?
Fuck sake.
There's been a J'Marcus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%27Marcus_Webb) and a JaMarcus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JaMarcus_Russell) in recent NFL History.
Quote from: morpheus on November 05, 2012, 08:41:09 AM
Quote from: Tonker on November 05, 2012, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 29, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
We didn't have the game here, but I heard it on the radio for a while and the announcers were killing Carimi. Sounded like he was getting abused by Charles Johnson.
Carimi has been, how do we say this, bad.
He's awful. Extremely awful. He's a goddamn dumpster fire. J'Marcus Webb's allowed just 2 sacks in the 6 games that didn't involve him being matched up against Clay Matthews. PFF had him ranked as the #23 pass blocking tackle in football out of 65 qualifiers before last week, I believe. Gabe was the fourth worst. I'm thinking that ranking may have gone even farther down. I hope it's just technique and he can get it sorted out, but his first round status has to be the only thing saving him at this point, and you can't imagine that'll keep him there much longer against the Texans and 49ers.
I'm not being funny, but J'Marcus? Really? Was the name J'Dave already taken by somebody in the family? Or J'Brian? J'Colin?
Fuck sake.
There's been a J'Marcus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%27Marcus_Webb) and a JaMarcus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JaMarcus_Russell) in recent NFL History.
I think Tonk was thinking it should be spelled j'mArcus.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 05, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
Quote from: Tonker on November 05, 2012, 01:16:40 AM
I'm not being funny, but J'Marcus? Really? Was the name J'Dave already taken by somebody in the family? Or J'Brian? J'Colin?
Fuck sake.
Why won't these goddamn black kids just stay the hell off Tonker's goddamn lawn already?
At least they're not making Tonker change their name in the computer for them.
Quote from: morpheus on November 05, 2012, 08:41:09 AM
Quote from: Tonker on November 05, 2012, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 29, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
We didn't have the game here, but I heard it on the radio for a while and the announcers were killing Carimi. Sounded like he was getting abused by Charles Johnson.
Carimi has been, how do we say this, bad.
He's awful. Extremely awful. He's a goddamn dumpster fire. J'Marcus Webb's allowed just 2 sacks in the 6 games that didn't involve him being matched up against Clay Matthews. PFF had him ranked as the #23 pass blocking tackle in football out of 65 qualifiers before last week, I believe. Gabe was the fourth worst. I'm thinking that ranking may have gone even farther down. I hope it's just technique and he can get it sorted out, but his first round status has to be the only thing saving him at this point, and you can't imagine that'll keep him there much longer against the Texans and 49ers.
I'm not being funny, but J'Marcus? Really? Was the name J'Dave already taken by somebody in the family? Or J'Brian? J'Colin?
Fuck sake.
There's been a J'Marcus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%27Marcus_Webb) and a JaMarcus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JaMarcus_Russell) in recent NFL History.
But sadly still only one D'Brickashaw.
Quote from: Tonker on November 05, 2012, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 29, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
From the PFF Refocused article about the Bears game: "While Jay Cutler was sacked six times, no one offensive lineman surrendered more than one." I can't decide if that's good or bad news. One the one hand, it was just one mistake! On the other hand, it was just one mistake by every single player on the line.
We didn't have the game here, but I heard it on the radio for a while and the announcers were killing Carimi. Sounded like he was getting abused by Charles Johnson.
Carimi has been, how do we say this, bad.
He's awful. Extremely awful. He's a goddamn dumpster fire. J'Marcus Webb's allowed just 2 sacks in the 6 games that didn't involve him being matched up against Clay Matthews. PFF had him ranked as the #23 pass blocking tackle in football out of 65 qualifiers before last week, I believe. Gabe was the fourth worst. I'm thinking that ranking may have gone even farther down. I hope it's just technique and he can get it sorted out, but his first round status has to be the only thing saving him at this point, and you can't imagine that'll keep him there much longer against the Texans and 49ers.
I'm not being funny, but J'Marcus? Really? Was the name J'Dave already taken by somebody in the family? Or J'Brian? J'Colin?
Fuck sake.
Any way you spell it he's still a D'umbass
Pathetic. That's all you can say about the Bears. I said last week that we will find out how good this team really is. Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. The Bears had a chance to gain more ground on the division with the Packers not playing and the Lions losing. Instead, they shit themselves.
Also, fuck Robbie Gould. The highest paid kicker in the league should make that field goal. If he makes the one he missed in this game, it's 10-9 with the Bears defense still playing better and therefore, putting more pressure on the Texans but that wasn't the case.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 12, 2012, 07:38:52 AM
Pathetic. That's all you can say about the Bears. I said last week that we will find out how good this team really is. Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. The Bears had a chance to gain more ground on the division with the Packers not playing and the Lions losing. Instead, they shit themselves.
Also, fuck Robbie Gould. The highest paid kicker in the league should make that field goal. If he makes the one he missed in this game, it's 10-9 with the Bears defense still playing better and therefore, putting more pressure on the Texans but that wasn't the case.
QuoteThe offense was given great field position all game and didn't do shit with it. Fuck Danieal Manning too. I don't know if it's a Chicago sports thing but there is something about former players that come back to rip their old teams a new asshole. Manning wasn't worth a damn for the years he played for the Bears. He was one of the reasons why they lost the Super Bowl and and probably a few other important games. But he arrives back in Chicago for this game and becomes a difference maker.
Kellen Davis sucks.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 12, 2012, 07:38:52 AM
Also, fuck Robbie Gould. The highest paid kicker in the league should make that field goal. If he makes the one he missed in this game, it's 10-9 with the Bears defense still playing better and therefore, putting more pressure on the Texans but that wasn't the case.
No, not this. He should've made it, but he gets a pass in light of his overall performance and the field conditions. Putting blame on a kicker when the offense went limper than Mitt Romney's presidential hopes at 10:45 Eastern last Tuesday is just not right. The Texans were good for at least one FG in the 2nd half.
What I can't figure out is how Jason Campbell was allowed to start 70 games in the NFL. That's coaching malpractice on par with the worst of Wanny's.
The lessons from this week: Kellen Davis should join Gabe Carimi in the firebarn. Replacement refs would've been better than that crew. Saying that video evidence confirmed that Jennings was touched and that Cutler was over the line of scrimmage makes clear that the ref was more interested in backing up his crew than fairly describing the replays. The offense is pretty bad with Cutler and is unbelievably pathetic without him. Green Bay hung 50 on those clowns in Houston. That's problematic.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 12, 2012, 07:26:34 PM
Green Bay hung 50 on those clowns in Houston. That's problematic.
This is so daft, I'm at a loss for where to begin.
But let's give it a go... What you're saying is: the Packers (almost universally acknowledged as having one of the strongest passing offenses in football, who lead the entire NFL so far this season in both passer rating and passing TDs) scored 42 points (which, while a lot, is still a bit less than 50) on an 80-degree night in Houston with the roof closed, but the Bears couldn't do the same with a concussed starting quarterback on a rainy, windy 40-degree night at Soldier Field?
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 12, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 12, 2012, 07:26:34 PM
Green Bay hung 50 on those clowns in Houston. That's problematic.
This is so daft, I'm at a loss for where to begin.
But let's give it a go... What you're saying is: the Packers (almost universally acknowledged as having one of the strongest passing offenses in football, who lead the entire NFL so far this season in both passer rating and passing TDs) scored 42 points (which, while a lot, is still a bit less than 50) on an 80-degree night in Houston with the roof closed, but the Bears couldn't do the same with a concussed starting quarterback on a rainy, windy 40-degree night at Soldier Field?
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Until the Bears beat a team that's worth a shit, they're still a team with a good record, a suspect offense and no wins against anybody who's worth a shit. This is our concern, dude. And by concern, I mean, fuck it.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 12, 2012, 11:53:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 12, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 12, 2012, 07:26:34 PM
Green Bay hung 50 on those clowns in Houston. That's problematic.
This is so daft, I'm at a loss for where to begin.
But let's give it a go... What you're saying is: the Packers (almost universally acknowledged as having one of the strongest passing offenses in football, who lead the entire NFL so far this season in both passer rating and passing TDs) scored 42 points (which, while a lot, is still a bit less than 50) on an 80-degree night in Houston with the roof closed, but the Bears couldn't do the same with a concussed starting quarterback on a rainy, windy 40-degree night at Soldier Field?
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Until the Bears beat a team that's worth a shit, they're still a team with a good record, a suspect offense and no wins against anybody who's worth a shit. This is our concern, dude. And by concern, I mean, fuck it.
Also, I want all the idiots out there to take notes on what happened in the Monday night game with the Steelers and Chiefs. Ben Rapistberger goes down with a shoulder injury. What do the Steelers do? They hang in there with their backup quarterback (who is an actual backup by the way) and they win the game in overtime. No excuses.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 13, 2012, 06:24:22 AM
Also, I want all the idiots out there to take notes on what happened in the Monday night game with the Steelers and Chiefs. Ben Rapistberger goes down with a shoulder injury. What do the Steelers do? They hang in there with their backup quarterback (who is an actual backup by the way) and they win the game in overtime. No excuses.
Well, the Chiefs are a huge excuse.
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
Typical Sheeple.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
I'm confused on the process.. I know fork has to review his posts with Chad before fork can post on desipio...
now it sounds like chad should review his posts with Apex before he posts.. so now fork and chad should both send their posts to apex to review? with CT running the show, can we streamline this any?
Quote from: BH on November 13, 2012, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
I'm confused on the process.. I know fork has to review his posts with Chad before fork can post on desipio...
now it sounds like chad should review his posts with Apex before he posts.. so now fork and chad should both send their posts to apex to review? with CT running the show, can we streamline this any?
We can't all run a tight ship like the one the editor's got in place at Hockeenight.
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
Real Fro is less irritating than Internet Fro...proof that Jews and Palestenians can find common ground.
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
Real Fro is less irritating than Internet Fro...proof that Jews and Palestenians can find common ground.
Plus he's like 5'3" and 38 lbs. It'd be like punching a starving Cambodian.
Quote from: PANK! on November 13, 2012, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
Real Fro is less irritating than Internet Fro...proof that Jews and Palestenians can find common ground.
Plus he's like 5'3" and 38 lbs. It'd be like punching a starving Cambodian.
He's probably 5-10 or so. It would be like punching a starving Palestinian.
Quote from: PANK! on November 13, 2012, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
Real Fro is less irritating than Internet Fro...proof that Jews and Palestenians can find common ground.
Plus he's like 5'3" and 38 lbs. It'd be like punching a starving Cambodian.
Plus: CT and Fork made me promise not to beat him to a pulp.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 13, 2012, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: PANK! on November 13, 2012, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
Real Fro is less irritating than Internet Fro...proof that Jews and Palestenians can find common ground.
Plus he's like 5'3" and 38 lbs. It'd be like punching a starving Cambodian.
Plus: CT and Fork made me promise not to beat him to a pulp.
Not to mention he tries to hit on anyone with a vagina. Anyone.
It is awkward.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2012, 09:29:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 13, 2012, 06:24:22 AM
Also, I want all the idiots out there to take notes on what happened in the Monday night game with the Steelers and Chiefs. Ben Rapistberger goes down with a shoulder injury. What do the Steelers do? They hang in there with their backup quarterback (who is an actual backup by the way) and they win the game in overtime. No excuses.
Well, the Chiefs are a huge excuse.
THIS.
The Steelers would have lost to any NFL team other than the Chiefs last night.
And the Bears with Jason Campbell.
Quote from: PenPho on November 13, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2012, 09:29:29 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 13, 2012, 06:24:22 AM
Also, I want all the idiots out there to take notes on what happened in the Monday night game with the Steelers and Chiefs. Ben Rapistberger goes down with a shoulder injury. What do the Steelers do? They hang in there with their backup quarterback (who is an actual backup by the way) and they win the game in overtime. No excuses.
Well, the Chiefs are a huge excuse.
THIS.
The Steelers would have lost to any NFL team other than the Chiefs last night.
And the Bears with Jason Campbell.
As someone who has to watch the Cardinals every week, I'm calling bullshit on this.
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 13, 2012, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: PANK! on November 13, 2012, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
Real Fro is less irritating than Internet Fro...proof that Jews and Palestenians can find common ground.
Plus he's like 5'3" and 38 lbs. It'd be like punching a starving Cambodian.
Plus: CT and Fork made me promise not to beat him to a pulp.
Not to mention he tries to hit on anyone with a vagina. Anyone.
It is awkward.
Hey, Slak... Your friends want to talk to you.
Over
there.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
Or better yet...stop posting entirely.
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
He's been pretty busy looking into creating his dream wedding.
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
7 of his last 28 posts (dating back to early September).
So,
LITERALLY only 25%.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 13, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 13, 2012, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: PANK! on November 13, 2012, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 13, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Why do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
It's weird that we don't always punch him in the face when he's out.
Real Fro is less irritating than Internet Fro...proof that Jews and Palestenians can find common ground.
Plus he's like 5'3" and 38 lbs. It'd be like punching a starving Cambodian.
Plus: CT and Fork made me promise not to beat him to a pulp.
Not to mention he tries to hit on anyone with a vagina. Anyone.
It is awkward.
Hey, Slak... Your friends want to talk to you.
Over there.
He's a real smooth operator.
Quote from: BH on November 13, 2012, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
He's been pretty busy looking into creating his dream wedding.
Fortunately he has a co-worker doing all the research up front.
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 13, 2012, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
He's been pretty busy looking into creating his dream wedding.
Fortunately he has a co-worker doing all the research up front.
Glad to see we've moved on from referencing a non-Desipio website to referencing a non-Desipio website.
Quote from: Eli on November 13, 2012, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 13, 2012, 11:29:34 AM
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Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
He's been pretty busy looking into creating his dream wedding.
Fortunately he has a co-worker doing all the research up front.
Glad to see we've moved on from referencing a non-Desipio website to referencing a non-Desipio website.
FWIW: http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p145693939&date=2012-8-20#p145693939
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 13, 2012, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on November 13, 2012, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
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Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
He's been pretty busy looking into creating his dream wedding.
Fortunately he has a co-worker doing all the research up front.
Glad to see we've moved on from referencing a non-Desipio website to referencing a non-Desipio website.
FWIW: http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p145693939&date=2012-8-20#p145693939
This post is a TDubbs' original
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 13, 2012, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 13, 2012, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on November 13, 2012, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 13, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 13, 2012, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:01 AMWhy do we still hang out here when all the action is over on Fro's site? Oh, that's right. We hate reading his garbage and hate it when people post it here because it stopped being funny a long time ago.
I like this post.
I think Tdubbs should just change his Desipio name to Fro since I believe 100% of his posts are copy-pastes from Fro.
He's been pretty busy looking into creating his dream wedding.
Fortunately he has a co-worker doing all the research up front.
Glad to see we've moved on from referencing a non-Desipio website to referencing a non-Desipio website.
FWIW: http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p145693939&date=2012-8-20#p145693939
This post is a TDubbs' original
did that fucking guy ever get married?
The grass (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8630647/robbie-gould-chicago-bears-rips-soldier-field-grounds-crew) at Soldier Field sucks? Who knew?
Quote from: BH on November 14, 2012, 11:46:18 AM
The [urlhttp://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8630647/robbie-gould-chicago-bears-rips-soldier-field-grounds-crew]grass[/url] at Soldier Field sucks? Who knew?
See what happens when BH tries to quote someone besides Fro or Rotoworld? Bad things, man.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 14, 2012, 12:11:43 PM
Quote from: BH on November 14, 2012, 11:46:18 AM
The [urlhttp://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8630647/robbie-gould-chicago-bears-rips-soldier-field-grounds-crew]grass[/url] at Soldier Field sucks? Who knew?
See what happens when BH tries to quote someone besides Fro or Rotoworld? Bad things, man.
I morplinked the hell out of that.
http://deadspin.com/5960446/brandon-marshall-took-a-picture-in-front-of-big-naked-bear-ass
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 15, 2012, 12:35:34 AM
http://deadspin.com/5960446/brandon-marshall-took-a-picture-in-front-of-big-naked-bear-ass
You're note helping your cause here, sodomite.
Quote from: PenPho on November 15, 2012, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 15, 2012, 12:35:34 AM
http://deadspin.com/5960446/brandon-marshall-took-a-picture-in-front-of-big-naked-bear-ass
You're note helping your cause here, sodomite.
The whole note?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 15, 2012, 10:25:59 AM
Quote from: PenPho on November 15, 2012, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 15, 2012, 12:35:34 AM
http://deadspin.com/5960446/brandon-marshall-took-a-picture-in-front-of-big-naked-bear-ass
You're note helping your cause here, sodomite.
The whole note?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge73N_SmvWc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge73N_SmvWc)
I am concerned. In my opinion the 49ers are a more dangerous team with Colin Kaepernick at QB than with Alex Smith. Kaepernick is a decent passer and a major running threat in a backfield with Frank Gore. The Niners defense is no slouch either. Having just had a "minor procedure" it is unlikely that Harbaugh will stroke out during the game.
Quote from: CBStew on November 19, 2012, 12:45:16 PM
I am concerned. In my opinion the 49ers are a more dangerous team with Colin Kaepernick at QB than with Alex Smith. Kaepernick is a decent passer and a major running threat in a backfield with Frank Gore. The Niners defense is no slouch either. Having just had a "minor procedure" it is unlikely that Harbaugh will stroke out during the game.
Quarterbacks aren't going to beat the Bears with their legs. The Niners don't have the kind of receivers that cause the Bears big problems. (Tillman vs. Moss, fuck you) Is Vernon Davis still good? He's a problem. Stacking the box against Gore should do the trick.
Can the Bears move the ball against the Niners? This is our concern, dude.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 19, 2012, 01:16:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 19, 2012, 12:45:16 PM
I am concerned. In my opinion the 49ers are a more dangerous team with Colin Kaepernick at QB than with Alex Smith. Kaepernick is a decent passer and a major running threat in a backfield with Frank Gore. The Niners defense is no slouch either. Having just had a "minor procedure" it is unlikely that Harbaugh will stroke out during the game.
Quarterbacks aren't going to beat the Bears with their legs. The Niners don't have the kind of receivers that cause the Bears big problems. (Tillman vs. Moss, fuck you) Is Vernon Davis still good? He's a problem. Stacking the box against Gore should do the trick.
Can the Bears move the ball against the Niners? This is our concern, dude.
Fuck it. The defense gets 3 TDs tonight.
I really, absolutely, positively HATE this offensive line. Just pathetic.
Quote from: BC on November 19, 2012, 11:13:35 PM
I really, absolutely, positively HATE this offensive line. Just pathetic.
Garza can come home. The rest can drown in the fucking bay for all I care.
Quote from: Brownie on November 19, 2012, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: BC on November 19, 2012, 11:13:35 PM
I really, absolutely, positively HATE this offensive line. Just pathetic.
Garza can come home. The rest can drown in the fucking bay for all I care.
Thank god Cutler didn't play last night.
O-Line did okay against against Watt and Houston. That buttsteak Tice somehow needs to find a way to figure this shit out on a weekly basis or this facet of the team will not only be the obstacle that keeps them from winning it all, but will hurt Tice's chances at getting another crack at a head coaching job elsewhere, laughable as that situation may seem in the first place.
Quote from: BC on November 19, 2012, 11:13:35 PM
I really, absolutely, positively HATE this offensive line. Just pathetic.
so you're saying they need something?
The bears really couldn't use chris williams? at all?
Quote from: BH on November 20, 2012, 08:26:23 AM
The bears really couldn't use chris williams? at all?
did you ever see him try to block? at all?
I'm looking for reasons not to panic. Anyone want to add any?
1. The Giants only beat one team with a winning record in the regular season last year. The Bears just need to get in the playoffs and hope that they're good at sports for those 3-4 weeks.
2. The Patriots lost at home to the Cardinals. Ravens lost to the Eagles. Texans needed OT to beat the Chad Henne-helmed Jags at home. Falcons lost to the Saints. The 49ers and Broncos are the only 'good' teams I can see that haven't had at least one turd of a game. Everybody sucks and everybody's awesome at some point in the season.
Quote from: R-V on November 20, 2012, 09:14:04 AM
I'm looking for reasons not to panic. Anyone want to add any?
1. The Giants only beat one team with a winning record in the regular season last year. The Bears just need to get in the playoffs and hope that they're good at sports for those 3-4 weeks.
2. The Patriots lost at home to the Cardinals. Ravens lost to the Eagles. Texans needed OT to beat the Chad Henne-helmed Jags at home. Falcons lost to the Saints. The 49ers and Broncos are the only 'good' teams I can see that haven't had at least one turd of a game. Everybody sucks and everybody's awesome at some point in the season.
All of THI. And Arizona almost won the Super Bowl with a 4-12 team a couple years ago.
Quote from: R-V on November 20, 2012, 09:14:04 AM
I'm looking for reasons not to panic. Anyone want to add any?
1. The Giants only beat one team with a winning record in the regular season last year. The Bears just need to get in the playoffs and hope that they're good at sports for those 3-4 weeks.
2. The Patriots lost at home to the Cardinals. Ravens lost to the Eagles. Texans needed OT to beat the Chad Henne-helmed Jags at home. Falcons lost to the Saints. The 49ers and Broncos are the only 'good' teams I can see that haven't had at least one turd of a game. Everybody sucks and everybody's awesome at some point in the season.
The 49ers tied the Rams.
Quote from: Yeti on November 20, 2012, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 20, 2012, 09:14:04 AM
I'm looking for reasons not to panic. Anyone want to add any?
1. The Giants only beat one team with a winning record in the regular season last year. The Bears just need to get in the playoffs and hope that they're good at sports for those 3-4 weeks.
2. The Patriots lost at home to the Cardinals. Ravens lost to the Eagles. Texans needed OT to beat the Chad Henne-helmed Jags at home. Falcons lost to the Saints. The 49ers and Broncos are the only 'good' teams I can see that haven't had at least one turd of a game. Everybody sucks and everybody's awesome at some point in the season.
The 49ers tied the Rams.
I'm a moron. I was concentrating on losses and near-losses and somehow overlooked that game full of foeacal matter.
So I guess that leaves the Broncos. Their 3 losses came to the Falcons, Texans and Pats by a total of 22 points.
And I forgot the Packers. Losses to the 49ers, tough-at-home Seahawks and tumor-inspired Colts by a total of just 13 points.
Quote from: R-V on November 20, 2012, 09:35:11 AM
Quote from: Yeti on November 20, 2012, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 20, 2012, 09:14:04 AM
I'm looking for reasons not to panic. Anyone want to add any?
1. The Giants only beat one team with a winning record in the regular season last year. The Bears just need to get in the playoffs and hope that they're good at sports for those 3-4 weeks.
2. The Patriots lost at home to the Cardinals. Ravens lost to the Eagles. Texans needed OT to beat the Chad Henne-helmed Jags at home. Falcons lost to the Saints. The 49ers and Broncos are the only 'good' teams I can see that haven't had at least one turd of a game. Everybody sucks and everybody's awesome at some point in the season.
The 49ers tied the Rams.
I'm a moron. I was concentrating on losses and near-losses and somehow overlooked that game full of foeacal matter.
So I guess that leaves the Broncos. Their 3 losses came to the Falcons, Texans and Pats by a total of 22 points.
And I forgot the Packers. Losses to the 49ers, tough-at-home Seahawks and tumor-inspired Colts by a total of just 13 points.
I won't consider the season having gone sideways if they can dispose of Minnesota handily.
But it won't matter unless they can find a way to scheme against the good teams so that they minimize the turd quotient of their O-line. Somewhat relatedly, Forte's been rather well-preserved this season, considering his $$$...be nice to get him to step up now...is it me or have they thrown a lot less to him out of the backfield this year? I saw a nice screen play last night and it reminded me that I've seen very few of these this year.
Quote from: PANK! on November 20, 2012, 10:11:05 AM
Somewhat relatedly, Forte's been rather well-preserved this season, considering his $$$...be nice to get him to step up now...is it me or have they thrown a lot less to him out of the backfield this year? I saw a nice screen play last night and it reminded me that I've seen very few of these this year.
37 targets in 9 games (4.111 per game) so far this season versus 76 in 12 games (6.333 per game) last year.
70/16 (4.375) in 2010, 71/16 (4.4375) in 2009, 77/16 (4.8125) in 2008.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 20, 2012, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on November 20, 2012, 10:11:05 AM
Somewhat relatedly, Forte's been rather well-preserved this season, considering his $$$...be nice to get him to step up now...is it me or have they thrown a lot less to him out of the backfield this year? I saw a nice screen play last night and it reminded me that I've seen very few of these this year.
37 targets in 9 games (4.111 per game) so far this season versus 76 in 12 games (6.333 per game) last year.
70/16 (4.375) in 2010, 71/16 (4.4375) in 2009, 77/16 (4.8125) in 2008.
That's gotta be a byproduct of the Marshall acquisition. I believe Marshall is leading the NFL in targets so he's probably sopped up a bunch of pass attempts that were previously checkdowns to Forte after Cutler looked around and couldn't find any open midgets.
But yeah, given that Marshall and Forte (and maybe Fat Alshon if he can stay on the field) are the only legitimate playmakers on this offense (sorry SKO, but Earl's been nonexistent even when healthy this year), I wouldn't mind getting Forte more involved in the passing game.
Quote from: Fork on September 25, 2012, 11:10:58 AM
Fuck Dallas.
In the ass.
With a cactus.
That was fun to watch.
Quote from: flannj on November 23, 2012, 09:07:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 25, 2012, 11:10:58 AM
Fuck Dallas.
In the ass.
With a cactus.
That was fun to watch.
So was this:
(http://i.minus.com/iBJY0OfwChiZh.gif)
(http://i.minus.com/ibnasc87e8juUC.gif)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2a6kzv4.jpg)
Emstink is... busy.
The Score reports he's just signed former NFL football player Andre Gurode.
http://www.nfl.com/player/andregurode/2505228/profile
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Emstink is... busy.
The Score reports he's just signed former NFL football player Andre Gurode.
http://www.nfl.com/player/andregurode/2505228/profile
Probably as good of a signing as you can make for depth on the interior of the o-line this late in the season, but let's just hope they don't have to play him, as he's been coasting on his reputation since sometime shortly after Albert Haynesworth stomped him in his face and was terrible in Baltimore last year.
In short, meh. My hope is they roll with Edwin Williams and Gabe for a while. Edwin Williams has been their best pass-protecting guard when they've played him the last two years, but he doesn't seem to have the "GRR ANGRY MAUL EDGY" approach that Tice apparently wants, so he's been kept in reserve. Pro Football Focus will tell you that injuries forcing him into the lineup is a good thing, and Gabe didn't allow a single hit, pressure, or disruption while playing guard for most of a half, so that's promising considering he's been a disaster in pass protection at RT. Let's see how this plays out.
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Emstink is... busy.
The Score reports he's just signed former NFL football player Andre Gurode.
http://www.nfl.com/player/andregurode/2505228/profile
Probably as good of a signing as you can make for depth on the interior of the o-line this late in the season, but let's just hope they don't have to play him, as he's been coasting on his reputation since sometime shortly after Albert Haynesworth stomped him in his face and was terrible in Baltimore last year.
In short, meh. My hope is they roll with Edwin Williams and Gabe for a while. Edwin Williams has been their best pass-protecting guard when they've played him the last two years, but he doesn't seem to have the "GRR ANGRY MAUL EDGY" approach that Tice apparently wants, so he's been kept in reserve. Pro Football Focus will tell you that injuries forcing him into the lineup is a good thing, and Gabe didn't allow a single hit, pressure, or disruption while playing guard for most of a half, so that's promising considering he's been a disaster in pass protection at RT. Let's see how this plays out.
Poor guy, he'll always be this to me. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5nlEA8BUTQ)
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Emstink is... busy.
The Score reports he's just signed former NFL football player Andre Gurode.
http://www.nfl.com/player/andregurode/2505228/profile
Probably as good of a signing as you can make for depth on the interior of the o-line this late in the season, but let's just hope they don't have to play him, as he's been coasting on his reputation since sometime shortly after Albert Haynesworth stomped him in his face and was terrible in Baltimore last year.
In short, meh. My hope is they roll with Edwin Williams and Gabe for a while. Edwin Williams has been their best pass-protecting guard when they've played him the last two years, but he doesn't seem to have the "GRR ANGRY MAUL EDGY" approach that Tice apparently wants, so he's been kept in reserve. Pro Football Focus will tell you that injuries forcing him into the lineup is a good thing, and Gabe didn't allow a single hit, pressure, or disruption while playing guard for most of a half, so that's promising considering he's been a disaster in pass protection at RT. Let's see how this plays out.
I've got a feeling that opposing DC's will figure out a way to exploit Gabe just a little. Or a lot. I think Tice has been a disaster so far and I don't have much confidence in him figuring out what to do with a bigger mess than he had been dealing with before. But this is the same fear I've had about Bears offenses since Neal Anderson began to decline so it's probably nothing.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2012, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Emstink is... busy.
The Score reports he's just signed former NFL football player Andre Gurode.
http://www.nfl.com/player/andregurode/2505228/profile
Probably as good of a signing as you can make for depth on the interior of the o-line this late in the season, but let's just hope they don't have to play him, as he's been coasting on his reputation since sometime shortly after Albert Haynesworth stomped him in his face and was terrible in Baltimore last year.
In short, meh. My hope is they roll with Edwin Williams and Gabe for a while. Edwin Williams has been their best pass-protecting guard when they've played him the last two years, but he doesn't seem to have the "GRR ANGRY MAUL EDGY" approach that Tice apparently wants, so he's been kept in reserve. Pro Football Focus will tell you that injuries forcing him into the lineup is a good thing, and Gabe didn't allow a single hit, pressure, or disruption while playing guard for most of a half, so that's promising considering he's been a disaster in pass protection at RT. Let's see how this plays out.
I've got a feeling that opposing DC's will figure out a way to exploit Gabe just a little. Or a lot. I think Tice has been a disaster so far and I don't have much confidence in him figuring out what to do with a bigger mess than he had been dealing with before. But this is the same fear I've had about Bears offenses since Neal Anderson began to decline so it's probably nothing.
Possibly, although there's only so much you can do to an interior offensive lineman that's all that unique or creative. His biggest problem was with a speed rush to the outside, so that problem is gone right there. He should also have the athleticism needed to pull outside when they run Power O, which was Louis' strong suit.
I agree that Tice gets too much credit for being a great offensive line coach. It wasn't fair to blame him for 2010, but a lot of the problems last year and this year have been because of guys that Tice personally vouched for. I'm going to stay positive on the Gabe at guard thing, though, because his run-blocking skills are unquestionably excellent and he'll be less exposed in pass protection. I can't see how he'd be worse.
Quote from: SKO on November 28, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2012, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Emstink is... busy.
The Score reports he's just signed former NFL football player Andre Gurode.
http://www.nfl.com/player/andregurode/2505228/profile
Probably as good of a signing as you can make for depth on the interior of the o-line this late in the season, but let's just hope they don't have to play him, as he's been coasting on his reputation since sometime shortly after Albert Haynesworth stomped him in his face and was terrible in Baltimore last year.
In short, meh. My hope is they roll with Edwin Williams and Gabe for a while. Edwin Williams has been their best pass-protecting guard when they've played him the last two years, but he doesn't seem to have the "GRR ANGRY MAUL EDGY" approach that Tice apparently wants, so he's been kept in reserve. Pro Football Focus will tell you that injuries forcing him into the lineup is a good thing, and Gabe didn't allow a single hit, pressure, or disruption while playing guard for most of a half, so that's promising considering he's been a disaster in pass protection at RT. Let's see how this plays out.
I've got a feeling that opposing DC's will figure out a way to exploit Gabe just a little. Or a lot. I think Tice has been a disaster so far and I don't have much confidence in him figuring out what to do with a bigger mess than he had been dealing with before. But this is the same fear I've had about Bears offenses since Neal Anderson began to decline so it's probably nothing.
Possibly, although there's only so much you can do to an interior offensive lineman that's all that unique or creative. His biggest problem was with a speed rush to the outside, so that problem is gone right there. He should also have the athleticism needed to pull outside when they run Power O, which was Louis' strong suit.
I agree that Tice gets too much credit for being a great offensive line coach. It wasn't fair to blame him for 2010, but a lot of the problems last year and this year have been because of guys that Tice personally vouched for. I'm going to stay positive on the Gabe at guard thing, though, because his run-blocking skills are unquestionably excellent and he'll be less exposed in pass protection. I can't see how he'd be worse.
I think he's too light in the ass for the pull guard duties Lance was handling competently. But, I'm on record as a complete and total football tard. If you need me, I'll be in the fetal position crying for my dead mother until Huey arrives and screams at me to sack up.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2012, 11:07:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 28, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2012, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Emstink is... busy.
The Score reports he's just signed former NFL football player Andre Gurode.
http://www.nfl.com/player/andregurode/2505228/profile
Probably as good of a signing as you can make for depth on the interior of the o-line this late in the season, but let's just hope they don't have to play him, as he's been coasting on his reputation since sometime shortly after Albert Haynesworth stomped him in his face and was terrible in Baltimore last year.
In short, meh. My hope is they roll with Edwin Williams and Gabe for a while. Edwin Williams has been their best pass-protecting guard when they've played him the last two years, but he doesn't seem to have the "GRR ANGRY MAUL EDGY" approach that Tice apparently wants, so he's been kept in reserve. Pro Football Focus will tell you that injuries forcing him into the lineup is a good thing, and Gabe didn't allow a single hit, pressure, or disruption while playing guard for most of a half, so that's promising considering he's been a disaster in pass protection at RT. Let's see how this plays out.
I've got a feeling that opposing DC's will figure out a way to exploit Gabe just a little. Or a lot. I think Tice has been a disaster so far and I don't have much confidence in him figuring out what to do with a bigger mess than he had been dealing with before. But this is the same fear I've had about Bears offenses since Neal Anderson began to decline so it's probably nothing.
Possibly, although there's only so much you can do to an interior offensive lineman that's all that unique or creative. His biggest problem was with a speed rush to the outside, so that problem is gone right there. He should also have the athleticism needed to pull outside when they run Power O, which was Louis' strong suit.
I agree that Tice gets too much credit for being a great offensive line coach. It wasn't fair to blame him for 2010, but a lot of the problems last year and this year have been because of guys that Tice personally vouched for. I'm going to stay positive on the Gabe at guard thing, though, because his run-blocking skills are unquestionably excellent and he'll be less exposed in pass protection. I can't see how he'd be worse.
I think he's too light in the ass for the pull guard duties Lance was handling competently. But, I'm on record as a complete and total football tard. If you need me, I'll be in the fetal position crying for my dead mother until Huey arrives and screams at me to sack up.
Well, his playing weight is listed as all of four pounds lighter than Louis. Those are often bullshit, but make of that what you will.
Quote from: SKO on November 28, 2012, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2012, 11:07:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 28, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2012, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Emstink is... busy.
The Score reports he's just signed former NFL football player Andre Gurode.
http://www.nfl.com/player/andregurode/2505228/profile
Probably as good of a signing as you can make for depth on the interior of the o-line this late in the season, but let's just hope they don't have to play him, as he's been coasting on his reputation since sometime shortly after Albert Haynesworth stomped him in his face and was terrible in Baltimore last year.
In short, meh. My hope is they roll with Edwin Williams and Gabe for a while. Edwin Williams has been their best pass-protecting guard when they've played him the last two years, but he doesn't seem to have the "GRR ANGRY MAUL EDGY" approach that Tice apparently wants, so he's been kept in reserve. Pro Football Focus will tell you that injuries forcing him into the lineup is a good thing, and Gabe didn't allow a single hit, pressure, or disruption while playing guard for most of a half, so that's promising considering he's been a disaster in pass protection at RT. Let's see how this plays out.
I've got a feeling that opposing DC's will figure out a way to exploit Gabe just a little. Or a lot. I think Tice has been a disaster so far and I don't have much confidence in him figuring out what to do with a bigger mess than he had been dealing with before. But this is the same fear I've had about Bears offenses since Neal Anderson began to decline so it's probably nothing.
Possibly, although there's only so much you can do to an interior offensive lineman that's all that unique or creative. His biggest problem was with a speed rush to the outside, so that problem is gone right there. He should also have the athleticism needed to pull outside when they run Power O, which was Louis' strong suit.
I agree that Tice gets too much credit for being a great offensive line coach. It wasn't fair to blame him for 2010, but a lot of the problems last year and this year have been because of guys that Tice personally vouched for. I'm going to stay positive on the Gabe at guard thing, though, because his run-blocking skills are unquestionably excellent and he'll be less exposed in pass protection. I can't see how he'd be worse.
I think he's too light in the ass for the pull guard duties Lance was handling competently. But, I'm on record as a complete and total football tard. If you need me, I'll be in the fetal position crying for my dead mother until Huey arrives and screams at me to sack up.
Well, his playing weight is listed as all of four pounds lighter than Louis. Those are often bullshit, but make of that what you will.
Yeah, but what is his Football Outsiders aSSweiGHt metric?
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Let's see how this plays out.
HEY!!!
Be careful. BC-isms have a certain power that mere mortals don't know how to handle.
Quote from: BC on November 28, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Let's see how this plays out.
HEY!!!
Be careful. BC-isms have a certain power that mere mortals don't know how to handle.
Just ask the Mayans.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: BC on November 28, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Let's see how this plays out.
HEY!!!
Be careful. BC-isms have a certain power that mere mortals don't know how to handle.
Just ask the Mayans.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on November 29, 2012, 09:03:25 AM
Quote from: morpheus on November 29, 2012, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: BC on November 28, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Let's see how this plays out.
HEY!!!
Be careful. BC-isms have a certain power that mere mortals don't know how to handle.
Just ask the Mayans.
(http://i.imgur.com/S2Pqe.jpg)
Lookin' pretty buff there, Big Campeche.
Well, I have been told body paint is slimming.
Quote from: BC on December 01, 2012, 01:47:50 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 29, 2012, 09:03:25 AM
Quote from: morpheus on November 29, 2012, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: BC on November 28, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Let's see how this plays out.
HEY!!!
Be careful. BC-isms have a certain power that mere mortals don't know how to handle.
Just ask the Mayans.
(http://i.imgur.com/S2Pqe.jpg)
Lookin' pretty buff there, Big Campeche.
Well, I have been told body paint is slimming.
Well, I lol'd.
Quote from: ChuckD on December 02, 2012, 05:22:37 AM
Quote from: morpheus on November 29, 2012, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: BC on November 28, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Let's see how this plays out.
HEY!!!
Be careful. BC-isms have a certain power that mere mortals don't know how to handle.
Just ask the Mayans.
(http://i.imgur.com/S2Pqe.jpg)
Holy shit. That is outstanding.
Morph should follow George Costanza and go out on a high note with this one.
Back to football, but an epically gutless effort from the D in the 4th quarter.
Also, catch a damn pick that's thrown right to you. And injuries suck.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 02, 2012, 03:22:00 PM
Back to football, but an epically gutless effort from the D in the 4th quarter.
Also, catch a damn pick that's thrown right to you. And injuries suck.
The gutless performance carried over into overtime as well. Fucking assholes.
I'm sure the meatballs will find a way to blame Cutler for this though.
Lynch's go-ahead score in the 4th highlighted the two main reasons the defense faltered whenever it did, as he ran through tackles by both Wright and Hayden.
Quote from: PANK! on December 02, 2012, 03:37:48 PM
Lynch's go-ahead score in the 4th highlighted the two main reasons the defense faltered whenever it did, as he ran through tackles by both Wright and Hayden.
The outside contain on Wilson was also nonexistent on numerous key third downs late.
I don't like the decision to go for it on 4th and 1 from inside the 20. But if you absolutely must do it, why the hell are you running behind your right guard who has never played guard. I hate this fucking team right now. I need to calm down.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 02, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
I don't like the decision to go for it on 4th and 1 from inside the 20. But if you absolutely must do it, why the hell are you running behind your right guard who has never played guard. I hate this fucking team right now. I need to calm down.
I like the decision, but hate the playcall. Either sneak or run play action to someone leaking out and who will be wide open.
Found this nugget on SKO's site and couldn't resist. It's so dumb. Not one of these arguments makes any sense, he has to be kidding right?
"Fro Dog said...
No, I don't think the Bears have at least two wins left in them and I'll tell you why.
1. Vikings - They are not very happy right now and haven't won in a little while.
2. Cardinals - The Bears, historically (even in 2006), have had a horrible time with this team. I know that what happened years ago isn't relevant but it is a trend.
3. Packers - They are 1-9 in their last ten games and that one win was on a Monday night where the refs helped the Bears. Aaron Rodgers owns them.
4. Lions - They barely beat them the first time around and this game is on the road.
If you want to rebuttal, feel free.
December 3, 2012 1:24 AM"
Quote from: BH on December 03, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
Found this nugget on SKO's site and couldn't resist. It's so dumb. Not one of these arguments makes any sense, he has to be kidding right?
"Fro Dog said...
No, I don't think the Bears have at least two wins left in them and I'll tell you why.
1. Vikings - They are not very happy right now and haven't won in a little while.
2. Cardinals - The Bears, historically (even in 2006), have had a horrible time with this team. I know that what happened years ago isn't relevant but it is a trend.
3. Packers - They are 1-9 in their last ten games and that one win was on a Monday night where the refs helped the Bears. Aaron Rodgers owns them.
4. Lions - They barely beat them the first time around and this game is on the road.
If you want to rebuttal, feel free.
December 3, 2012 1:24 AM"
Okay, so on the one that can actually be analyzed statistically.
Quote
Aaron Rodgers owns them
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/mipgd4.jpg)
So yes...Rodgers basically owns the Bears.
In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL, but using winning % of the most likely crux of his argument - he's basically right.
Arguments 1 and 2 above are insanely idiotic.
4 has at least little low-level merit, assuming home field advantage still is worth a few points (something that invariably has been assessed statistically for recent times.)
Edit: Because I'm too lazy to fix the spreadsheet and re-save as an image and then re-upload the image, note that TD/ATT and INT/ATT should be reversed. Those are actually ATT/TD and ATT/INT (essentially the frequency of the occurrence.)
Quote from: PenPho on December 03, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: BH on December 03, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
Found this nugget on SKO's site and couldn't resist. It's so dumb. Not one of these arguments makes any sense, he has to be kidding right?
"Fro Dog said...
No, I don't think the Bears have at least two wins left in them and I'll tell you why.
1. Vikings - They are not very happy right now and haven't won in a little while.
2. Cardinals - The Bears, historically (even in 2006), have had a horrible time with this team. I know that what happened years ago isn't relevant but it is a trend.
3. Packers - They are 1-9 in their last ten games and that one win was on a Monday night where the refs helped the Bears. Aaron Rodgers owns them.
4. Lions - They barely beat them the first time around and this game is on the road.
If you want to rebuttal, feel free.
December 3, 2012 1:24 AM"
Okay, so on the one that can actually be analyzed statistically.
Quote
Aaron Rodgers owns them
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/mipgd4.jpg)
So yes...Rodgers basically owns the Bears.
In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL, but using winning % of the most likely crux of his argument - he's basically right.
Arguments 1 and 2 above are insanely idiotic.
4 has at least little low-level merit, assuming home field advantage still is worth a few points (something that invariably has been assessed statistically for recent times.)
Edit: Because I'm too lazy to fix the spreadsheet and re-save as an image and then re-upload the image, note that TD/ATT and INT/ATT should be reversed. Those are actually ATT/TD and ATT/INT (essentially the frequency of the occurrence.)
Your spreadsheet doesn't factor in if Rodgers is more or less happy when he plays the Bears.
Quote from: PenPho on December 03, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: BH on December 03, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
Found this nugget on SKO's site and couldn't resist. It's so dumb. Not one of these arguments makes any sense, he has to be kidding right?
"Fro Dog said...
No, I don't think the Bears have at least two wins left in them and I'll tell you why.
1. Vikings - They are not very happy right now and haven't won in a little while.
2. Cardinals - The Bears, historically (even in 2006), have had a horrible time with this team. I know that what happened years ago isn't relevant but it is a trend.
3. Packers - They are 1-9 in their last ten games and that one win was on a Monday night where the refs helped the Bears. Aaron Rodgers owns them.
4. Lions - They barely beat them the first time around and this game is on the road.
If you want to rebuttal, feel free.
December 3, 2012 1:24 AM"
Okay, so on the one that can actually be analyzed statistically.
Quote
Aaron Rodgers owns them
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/mipgd4.jpg)
So yes...Rodgers basically owns the Bears.
In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL, but using winning % of the most likely crux of his argument - he's basically right.
Arguments 1 and 2 above are insanely idiotic.
4 has at least little low-level merit, assuming home field advantage still is worth a few points (something that invariably has been assessed statistically for recent times.)
Edit: Because I'm too lazy to fix the spreadsheet and re-save as an image and then re-upload the image, note that TD/ATT and INT/ATT should be reversed. Those are actually ATT/TD and ATT/INT (essentially the frequency of the occurrence.)
In general the Bears defense plays better against Rodgers than most teams in the NFL do, particularly if you look at them since they acquired Julius Peppers (since the 2008-2009 defenses were terrible). The Packers have had 20 or more offensive points in just two of their six meetings since the start of 2010, with one of those being the late season debacle in Green Bay last year where Josh McCown and Kahlil Bell were the starting backfield and they benched Tim Jennings for Zack Bowman and all kinds of shit happened.
The more accurate statement would be that the Bears will lose to Green Bay because Dom Capers owns Jay Cutler, because that's the real reason they've lost those games.
Also, the Bears, in my memory, have played the Cardinals three times in the last decade. They won 28-7 in 2003 behind Brock Forsey and Kordell Stewart over Jeff Blake, so that's TOTALLY going to factor into this year's game. They won the Denny Green Game in 2006, and they lost to Kurt Warner in 2009. So yeah, the Bears have sucked against the Cardinals this last decade, winning just 2/3rds of the time and they're screwed if Kurt Warner comes out of retirement to lead Arizona to victory. Trends.
The Vikings thing is just the best argument for anything ever. THEY'RE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN LOSING A LOT LATELY, AND BOY HOWDY ARE THEY TIRED OF IT!
Quote from: BH on December 03, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
Found this nugget on SKO's site and couldn't resist.
Well, you
could have.
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: PenPho on December 03, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: BH on December 03, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
Found this nugget on SKO's site and couldn't resist. It's so dumb. Not one of these arguments makes any sense, he has to be kidding right?
"Fro Dog said...
No, I don't think the Bears have at least two wins left in them and I'll tell you why.
1. Vikings - They are not very happy right now and haven't won in a little while.
2. Cardinals - The Bears, historically (even in 2006), have had a horrible time with this team. I know that what happened years ago isn't relevant but it is a trend.
3. Packers - They are 1-9 in their last ten games and that one win was on a Monday night where the refs helped the Bears. Aaron Rodgers owns them.
4. Lions - They barely beat them the first time around and this game is on the road.
If you want to rebuttal, feel free.
December 3, 2012 1:24 AM"
Okay, so on the one that can actually be analyzed statistically.
Quote
Aaron Rodgers owns them
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/mipgd4.jpg)
So yes...Rodgers basically owns the Bears.
In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL, but using winning % of the most likely crux of his argument - he's basically right.
Arguments 1 and 2 above are insanely idiotic.
4 has at least little low-level merit, assuming home field advantage still is worth a few points (something that invariably has been assessed statistically for recent times.)
Edit: Because I'm too lazy to fix the spreadsheet and re-save as an image and then re-upload the image, note that TD/ATT and INT/ATT should be reversed. Those are actually ATT/TD and ATT/INT (essentially the frequency of the occurrence.)
In general the Bears defense plays better against Rodgers than most teams in the NFL do, particularly if you look at them since they acquired Julius Peppers (since the 2008-2009 defenses were terrible). The Packers have had 20 or more offensive points in just two of their six meetings since the start of 2010, with one of those being the late season debacle in Green Bay last year where Josh McCown and Kahlil Bell were the starting backfield and they benched Tim Jennings for Zack Bowman and all kinds of shit happened.
The more accurate statement would be that the Bears will lose to Green Bay because Dom Capers owns Jay Cutler, because that's the real reason they've lost those games.
Also, the Bears, in my memory, have played the Cardinals three times in the last decade. They won 28-7 in 2003 behind Brock Forsey and Kordell Stewart over Jeff Blake, so that's TOTALLY going to factor into this year's game. They won the Denny Green Game in 2006, and they lost to Kurt Warner in 2009. So yeah, the Bears have sucked against the Cardinals this last decade, winning just 2/3rds of the time and they're screwed if Kurt Warner comes out of retirement to lead Arizona to victory. Trends.
The Vikings thing is just the best argument for anything ever. THEY'RE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN LOSING A LOT LATELY, AND BOY HOWDY ARE THEY TIRED OF IT!
Quote from: SKOmer
In general the Bears defense plays better against Rodgers than most teams in the NFL do
This is a really, really
meatball homer Bears fan generous interpretation of the data.
Quote from: PenPho on December 03, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: PenPho on December 03, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: BH on December 03, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
Found this nugget on SKO's site and couldn't resist. It's so dumb. Not one of these arguments makes any sense, he has to be kidding right?
"Fro Dog said...
No, I don't think the Bears have at least two wins left in them and I'll tell you why.
1. Vikings - They are not very happy right now and haven't won in a little while.
2. Cardinals - The Bears, historically (even in 2006), have had a horrible time with this team. I know that what happened years ago isn't relevant but it is a trend.
3. Packers - They are 1-9 in their last ten games and that one win was on a Monday night where the refs helped the Bears. Aaron Rodgers owns them.
4. Lions - They barely beat them the first time around and this game is on the road.
If you want to rebuttal, feel free.
December 3, 2012 1:24 AM"
Okay, so on the one that can actually be analyzed statistically.
Quote
Aaron Rodgers owns them
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/mipgd4.jpg)
So yes...Rodgers basically owns the Bears.
In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL, but using winning % of the most likely crux of his argument - he's basically right.
Arguments 1 and 2 above are insanely idiotic.
4 has at least little low-level merit, assuming home field advantage still is worth a few points (something that invariably has been assessed statistically for recent times.)
Edit: Because I'm too lazy to fix the spreadsheet and re-save as an image and then re-upload the image, note that TD/ATT and INT/ATT should be reversed. Those are actually ATT/TD and ATT/INT (essentially the frequency of the occurrence.)
In general the Bears defense plays better against Rodgers than most teams in the NFL do, particularly if you look at them since they acquired Julius Peppers (since the 2008-2009 defenses were terrible). The Packers have had 20 or more offensive points in just two of their six meetings since the start of 2010, with one of those being the late season debacle in Green Bay last year where Josh McCown and Kahlil Bell were the starting backfield and they benched Tim Jennings for Zack Bowman and all kinds of shit happened.
The more accurate statement would be that the Bears will lose to Green Bay because Dom Capers owns Jay Cutler, because that's the real reason they've lost those games.
Also, the Bears, in my memory, have played the Cardinals three times in the last decade. They won 28-7 in 2003 behind Brock Forsey and Kordell Stewart over Jeff Blake, so that's TOTALLY going to factor into this year's game. They won the Denny Green Game in 2006, and they lost to Kurt Warner in 2009. So yeah, the Bears have sucked against the Cardinals this last decade, winning just 2/3rds of the time and they're screwed if Kurt Warner comes out of retirement to lead Arizona to victory. Trends.
The Vikings thing is just the best argument for anything ever. THEY'RE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN LOSING A LOT LATELY, AND BOY HOWDY ARE THEY TIRED OF IT!
Quote from: SKOmer
In general the Bears defense plays better against Rodgers than most teams in the NFL do
This is a really, really meatball homer Bears fan generous interpretation of the data.
Right, because I offered no further explanation or any other data after that. Would it have been more appropriate to replace "Rodgers" with "the Packers offense" because, like I said, here are the total offensive points scored by the Packers against the Bears going back to 2010: 17, 10, 14, 27, 35, 16. I included the NFC Championship game, where Rodgers had 0 TDs, 2 INTs, and a 54 passer rating. So in their last six games against the Bears the Packers have averaged 19.8 offensive points where they've averaged 30.1 offensive PPG against other teams during that same time frame. So no, other than holding a team that's shredded the rest of the NFL for 30 PPG to less than 20, the Bears don't do any better against Rodgers than anyone else. So you can generously interpret me telling you to kiss my ass however you'd like.
EDIT: It's actually 29.9 offensive PPG against the rest of the league instead of 30.1, as I failed to subtract 7 points for Tramon Williams' pick six of Matt Ryan in the 2010 divisional round.
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:13:54 PM
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Found this nugget on SKO's site and couldn't resist. It's so dumb. Not one of these arguments makes any sense, he has to be kidding right?
"Fro Dog said...
No, I don't think the Bears have at least two wins left in them and I'll tell you why.
1. Vikings - They are not very happy right now and haven't won in a little while.
2. Cardinals - The Bears, historically (even in 2006), have had a horrible time with this team. I know that what happened years ago isn't relevant but it is a trend.
3. Packers - They are 1-9 in their last ten games and that one win was on a Monday night where the refs helped the Bears. Aaron Rodgers owns them.
4. Lions - They barely beat them the first time around and this game is on the road.
If you want to rebuttal, feel free.
December 3, 2012 1:24 AM"
Okay, so on the one that can actually be analyzed statistically.
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Aaron Rodgers owns them
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/mipgd4.jpg)
So yes...Rodgers basically owns the Bears.
In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL, but using winning % of the most likely crux of his argument - he's basically right.
Arguments 1 and 2 above are insanely idiotic.
4 has at least little low-level merit, assuming home field advantage still is worth a few points (something that invariably has been assessed statistically for recent times.)
Edit: Because I'm too lazy to fix the spreadsheet and re-save as an image and then re-upload the image, note that TD/ATT and INT/ATT should be reversed. Those are actually ATT/TD and ATT/INT (essentially the frequency of the occurrence.)
In general the Bears defense plays better against Rodgers than most teams in the NFL do, particularly if you look at them since they acquired Julius Peppers (since the 2008-2009 defenses were terrible). The Packers have had 20 or more offensive points in just two of their six meetings since the start of 2010, with one of those being the late season debacle in Green Bay last year where Josh McCown and Kahlil Bell were the starting backfield and they benched Tim Jennings for Zack Bowman and all kinds of shit happened.
The more accurate statement would be that the Bears will lose to Green Bay because Dom Capers owns Jay Cutler, because that's the real reason they've lost those games.
Also, the Bears, in my memory, have played the Cardinals three times in the last decade. They won 28-7 in 2003 behind Brock Forsey and Kordell Stewart over Jeff Blake, so that's TOTALLY going to factor into this year's game. They won the Denny Green Game in 2006, and they lost to Kurt Warner in 2009. So yeah, the Bears have sucked against the Cardinals this last decade, winning just 2/3rds of the time and they're screwed if Kurt Warner comes out of retirement to lead Arizona to victory. Trends.
The Vikings thing is just the best argument for anything ever. THEY'RE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN LOSING A LOT LATELY, AND BOY HOWDY ARE THEY TIRED OF IT!
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In general the Bears defense plays better against Rodgers than most teams in the NFL do
This is a really, really meatball homer Bears fan generous interpretation of the data.
Right, because I offered no further explanation or any other data after that. Would it have been more appropriate to replace "Rodgers" with "the Packers offense" because, like I said, here are the total offensive points scored by the Packers against the Bears going back to 2010: 17, 10, 14, 27, 35, 16. I included the NFC Championship game, where Rodgers had 0 TDs, 2 INTs, and a 54 passer rating. So in their last six games against the Bears the Packers have averaged 19.8 offensive points where they've averaged 30.1 offensive PPG against other teams during that same time frame. So no, other than holding a team that's shredded the rest of the NFL for 30 PPG to less than 20, the Bears don't do any better against Rodgers than anyone else. So you can generously interpret me telling you to kiss my ass however you'd like.
EDIT: It's actually 29.9 offensive PPG against the rest of the league instead of 30.1, as I failed to subtract 7 points for Tramon Williams' pick six of Matt Ryan in the 2010 divisional round.
No, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
If you want to add in points scored, which seems reasonable, you can put that one towards the Bears.
It's another proof point to add in service of the larger picture (refer to original table above), which basically sums up to Rodgers owning the Bears.
My original point said: "In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL" but you're deluding yourself if you don't acknowledge that he has essentially kicked the crap out of the Bears for the last 4-5 years.
You can try and spin it anyway you like, but he's still 7-2 with a 101 Passer Rating, a 16/6 TD:INT ratio and a 70% completion rate.
Quote from: PenPho on December 03, 2012, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
If you want to add in points scored, which seems reasonable, you can put that one towards the Bears.
It's another proof point to add in service of the larger picture (refer to original table above), which basically sums up to Rodgers owning the Bears.
My original point said: "In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL" but you're deluding yourself if you don't acknowledge that he has essentially kicked the crap out of the Bears for the last 4-5 years.
You can try and spin it anyway you like, but he's still 7-2 with a 101 Passer Rating and a 69% completion rate.
Passer rating and completion % being overrated statistics. A YPA that's a over half a yard less against the Bears, an interceptions/game total that's higher, and again, lower point totals, would indicate that my initial statement:
Quote"In general the Bears defense plays better against Rodgers than most teams in the NFL do, particularly if you look at them since they acquired Julius Peppers (since the 2008-2009 defenses were terrible). The Packers have had 20 or more offensive points in just two of their six meetings since the start of 2010, with one of those being the late season debacle in Green Bay last year where Josh McCown and Kahlil Bell were the starting backfield and they benched Tim Jennings for Zack Bowman and all kinds of shit happened.
The more accurate statement would be that the Bears will lose to Green Bay because Dom Capers owns Jay Cutler, because that's the real reason they've lost those games. "
Was pretty goddamn accurate. I don't see a hopelessly deluded Bears fan in there. Especially when that crazy homer said, quote "the Bears will lose to Green Bay because Dom Capers owns Jay Cutler", because when you're holding the best offense in the NFL to about 20 PPG, which is the best you could probably hope for in that situation regularly and still losing the games, you have to acknowledge that it's probably get less to do with Rodgers than his counterpart.
But I'm just a Jay Cutler dong-slurping meatball Bears homer for pointing out stuff that's factually accurate while predicting that the Bears will fucking lose the game because the quarterback I worship will probably throw 2-4 INTs against them for the 6th time in 8 games. You got me.
Quote from: PenPho on December 03, 2012, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
If you want to add in points scored, which seems reasonable, you can put that one towards the Bears.
It's another proof point to add in service of the larger picture (refer to original table above), which basically sums up to Rodgers owning the Bears.
My original point said: "In some ways he owns them less than he owns the rest of the NFL" but you're deluding yourself if you don't acknowledge that he has essentially kicked the crap out of the Bears for the last 4-5 years.
You can try and spin it anyway you like, but he's still 7-2 with a 101 Passer Rating, a 16/6 TD:INT ratio and a 70% completion rate.
This is another annoying NFL fan take in which a quarterback is emblematic of an entire team's performance. The Packers' defense has fucking destroyed the Bears since Favre left. So the Bears have looked bad and lost. Somehow, that translates to Rodgers owns the Bears despite all this evidence to the contrary. PenFroDoggian bullshit.
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
So, what you're saying is that Peppers, Melton, Jennings and Co. don't matter?
Quote from: Yeti on December 03, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
So, what you're saying is that Peppers, Melton, Jennings and Co. don't matter?
No, just that my original point stands up regardless, although they have performed better (19.8 PPG) against Rodgers with those guys then they did before (24 PPG), even though both figures, still, are less than Green Bay's average against the rest of the league.
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 03, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
So, what you're saying is that Peppers, Melton, Jennings and Co. don't matter?
No, just that my original point stands up regardless, although they have performed better (19.8 PPG) against Rodgers with those guys then they did before (24 PPG), even though both figures, still, are less than Green Bay's average against the rest of the league.
Get a haircut, hippie.
I see the new updated model of the Asshurt Perpetuity EXPeriment was built in Iowa.
Quote from: Oleg on December 03, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 03, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
So, what you're saying is that Peppers, Melton, Jennings and Co. don't matter?
No, just that my original point stands up regardless, although they have performed better (19.8 PPG) against Rodgers with those guys then they did before (24 PPG), even though both figures, still, are less than Green Bay's average against the rest of the league.
Get a haircut, hippie.
And a life. Geesh.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 03, 2012, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 03, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 03, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
So, what you're saying is that Peppers, Melton, Jennings and Co. don't matter?
No, just that my original point stands up regardless, although they have performed better (19.8 PPG) against Rodgers with those guys then they did before (24 PPG), even though both figures, still, are less than Green Bay's average against the rest of the league.
Get a haircut, hippie.
And a life. Geesh.
And a brain. Moran.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 03, 2012, 11:42:22 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 03, 2012, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 03, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 03, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
QuoteNo, it's perfectly appropriate, assuming that using Chuck-ian time constraints works in your favor.
So using the statistics of the Bears defense since the start of 2010, when they brought in Julius Peppers, Tim Jennings, and Henry Melton is somehow misleading? It's a more accurate reflection of their performance in recent years to go back to 2009 when there were only two defensive starters ( Briggs, and Tillman, Urlacher missed all but the first half of the first game with injury) who are still starting on the team, vs. 2010, the first year where Peppers, Jennings, Melton, Idonije, and Wright all started or contributed? I don't see how it's pertinent to future performance (and this is relevant, since Fro was predicting a Bears loss in two weeks) to look at numbers from a defense that was nearly unrecognizable to the one that's on the field now, vs. the data since 2010, where the team, outside of a few changes (Chris Conte, Steven Paea, Nick Roach) was more or less the same.
Actually, you know what? Fuck it. I don't need your Chuck-ian restraints. Even if you throw in point totals for 2008 and 2009 (27 PPG against the Bears in 2008, 21 PPG in 2009 vs. 22.2 offensive PPG and 30.4 PPG in those years, respectively) the Bears have still defended the Packers offense better than the league in all but one year of Rodgers career.
So, what you're saying is that Peppers, Melton, Jennings and Co. don't matter?
No, just that my original point stands up regardless, although they have performed better (19.8 PPG) against Rodgers with those guys then they did before (24 PPG), even though both figures, still, are less than Green Bay's average against the rest of the league.
Get a haircut, hippie.
And a life. Geesh.
And a brain. Moran.
How the fuck did *I* get involved?
Urlacher out 3 games or maybe the whole regular season.
I don't need a link. It's a fact.
Quote from: Slaky on December 04, 2012, 02:39:39 PM
Urlacher out 3 games or maybe the whole regular season.
I don't need a link. It's a fact.
(http://www.ejoujo.eu/ilcoloredelgrano/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ok-panic.png)
Quote from: Brownie on December 04, 2012, 02:43:07 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 04, 2012, 02:39:39 PM
Urlacher out 3 games or maybe the whole regular season.
I don't need a link. It's a fact.
(http://www.ejoujo.eu/ilcoloredelgrano/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ok-panic.png)
For anyone who does want a link. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-chicago-bears-brian-urlacher-hamstring-strain-20121204,0,882544.story)
On the flip side: (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8706011/jay-cutler-ponders-hometown-discount-chicago-bears)
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Cutler said he'd consider taking a "hometown discount" to remain with the Bears because less money in a contract would mean more flexibility for the team in its efforts to acquire talent.
Quote from: Slaky on December 04, 2012, 02:39:39 PM
Urlacher out 3 games or maybe the whole regular season.
I don't need a link. It's a fact.
Damn that Lovie Smith for playing him
Quote from: PenPho on December 04, 2012, 02:44:33 PM
On the flip side: (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8706011/jay-cutler-ponders-hometown-discount-chicago-bears)
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Cutler said he'd consider taking a "hometown discount" to remain with the Bears because less money in a contract would mean more flexibility for the team in its efforts to acquire talent.
Not a leader
Quote from: Yeti on December 04, 2012, 02:45:24 PM
Quote from: PenPho on December 04, 2012, 02:44:33 PM
On the flip side: (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8706011/jay-cutler-ponders-hometown-discount-chicago-bears)
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Cutler said he'd consider taking a "hometown discount" to remain with the Bears because less money in a contract would mean more flexibility for the team in its efforts to acquire talent.
Not a leader
Maybe they can use that money to conjure up a new Urlacher.
Am I wrong to be more worried about Chris Conte's health than Urlacher's? Now they finally have a chance to see what Zorich can do there.
Conte had the flu. The dropoff in talent between Urlacher and Roach is probably negligible at this point but Urlacher is the captain of the defense, in charge of playcalls etc. If dudes are suddenly out of position and getting pantsed while a step slow due to injuries, we're all going to die.
Time for the offense to start putting up the awesome numbers we were all promised while the defense gets old and shitty before our very eyes.
This isn't good news, but it's not devastating like it would have been in the past. Urlacher's been more or less useless for large parts of the year against the run, and he's been a big part of them getting gashed the last several weeks. The Roach/Hayes combo will probably cover more ground. Where this hurts, like Pex said, is in his recognition and playcalling, as well as his coverage. I'm going to put the terror alert here at RED IT'S AT RED. THEY'VE LOST 3 OF 4 AND THEY HAVE NO URLACHER. FUCKING PANIC.
Quote from: SKO on December 04, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
This isn't good news, but it's not devastating like it would have been in the past. Urlacher's been more or less useless for large parts of the year against the run, and he's been a big part of them getting gashed the last several weeks. The Roach/Hayes combo will probably cover more ground. Where this hurts, like Pex said, is in his recognition and playcalling, as well as his coverage. I'm going to put the terror alert here at RED IT'S AT RED. THEY'VE LOST 3 OF 4 AND THEY HAVE NO URLACHER. FUCKING PANIC.
Can't they just get him a helicopter and a head set so he can call the plays from a above like some kind of bionic heli-god?
Quote from: SKO on December 04, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
This isn't good news, but it's not devastating like it would have been in the past. Urlacher's been more or less useless for large parts of the year against the run, and he's been a big part of them getting gashed the last several weeks. The Roach/Hayes combo will probably cover more ground. Where this hurts, like Pex said, is in his recognition and playcalling, as well as his coverage. I'm going to put the terror alert here at RED IT'S AT RED. THEY'VE LOST 3 OF 4 AND THEY HAVE NO URLACHER. FUCKING PANIC.
Well, not to blame Lovie completely, but I am going to for the most part here. Had this idiot called a timeout in overtime to rest the defense for a bit and break up the rhythm of the Seahwks, maybe this doesn't happen.
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Quote from: SKO on December 04, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
This isn't good news, but it's not devastating like it would have been in the past. Urlacher's been more or less useless for large parts of the year against the run, and he's been a big part of them getting gashed the last several weeks. The Roach/Hayes combo will probably cover more ground. Where this hurts, like Pex said, is in his recognition and playcalling, as well as his coverage. I'm going to put the terror alert here at RED IT'S AT RED. THEY'VE LOST 3 OF 4 AND THEY HAVE NO URLACHER. FUCKING PANIC.
Well, not to blame Lovie completely, but I am going to for the most part here. Had this idiot called a timeout in overtime to rest the defense for a bit and break up the rhythm of the Seahwks, maybe this doesn't happen.
Thanks, Fro.
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Quote from: SKO on December 04, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
This isn't good news, but it's not devastating like it would have been in the past. Urlacher's been more or less useless for large parts of the year against the run, and he's been a big part of them getting gashed the last several weeks. The Roach/Hayes combo will probably cover more ground. Where this hurts, like Pex said, is in his recognition and playcalling, as well as his coverage. I'm going to put the terror alert here at RED IT'S AT RED. THEY'VE LOST 3 OF 4 AND THEY HAVE NO URLACHER. FUCKING PANIC.
Can't they just get him a helicopter and a head set so he can call the plays from a above like some kind of bionic heli-god?
Yeah. I'm really not that worried. Roach got all of the reps at MLB for an entire training camp and preseason with Urlacher out. This is a veteran defense. If they can't survive 3 of 4 games against non-playoff teams without a linebacker who was half-disabled to begin with, they really don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Quote from: SKO on December 04, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
This isn't good news, but it's not devastating like it would have been in the past. Urlacher's been more or less useless for large parts of the year against the run, and he's been a big part of them getting gashed the last several weeks. The Roach/Hayes combo will probably cover more ground. Where this hurts, like Pex said, is in his recognition and playcalling, as well as his coverage. I'm going to put the terror alert here at RED IT'S AT RED. THEY'VE LOST 3 OF 4 AND THEY HAVE NO URLACHER. FUCKING PANIC.
Can't they just get him a helicopter and a head set so he can call the plays from a above like some kind of bionic heli-god?
Yeah. I'm really not that worried. Roach got all of the reps at MLB for an entire training camp and preseason with Urlacher out. This is a veteran defense. If they can't survive 3 of 4 games against non-playoff teams without a linebacker who was half-disabled to begin with, they really don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
This sounds eerily familiar.
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Quote from: SKO on December 04, 2012, 06:14:17 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 04, 2012, 04:33:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 04, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
This isn't good news, but it's not devastating like it would have been in the past. Urlacher's been more or less useless for large parts of the year against the run, and he's been a big part of them getting gashed the last several weeks. The Roach/Hayes combo will probably cover more ground. Where this hurts, like Pex said, is in his recognition and playcalling, as well as his coverage. I'm going to put the terror alert here at RED IT'S AT RED. THEY'VE LOST 3 OF 4 AND THEY HAVE NO URLACHER. FUCKING PANIC.
Can't they just get him a helicopter and a head set so he can call the plays from a above like some kind of bionic heli-god?
Yeah. I'm really not that worried. Roach got all of the reps at MLB for an entire training camp and preseason with Urlacher out. This is a veteran defense. If they can't survive 3 of 4 games against non-playoff teams without a linebacker who was half-disabled to begin with, they really don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
This sounds eerily familiar.
I've been sticking my fingers in my ear and going "lalalala" every time pro football focus has tried to tell me all year long that Urlacher's mostly looked like crap in everything but covering short passes, but now I'm going to take it as comfort that maybe they really will be okay without him. It's all I got, champ.
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
Labia Majora Wrongzobeanz
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Quote from: Brownie on December 05, 2012, 10:02:42 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
Quote from: R-V on December 05, 2012, 10:05:13 AM
Quote from: Brownie on December 05, 2012, 10:02:42 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
Peanut does lineup at tailback in the victory formation. Seems as good a time as any to execute that plan.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
I'll be sitting next to Dad, so I'll be the guy on TV beating his father after Cutler throws 1 INT after 4 TD passes and he shouts "that's why he's not an NFL quarterback, and the Chicago Bears are about running the ball, anyway."*
*Actual quote from my Dad when Cutler threw his 1 INT in his 4 TD pass upset of the Vikings in 2009 that forced Minnesota to travel to IAN's backyard on their way to the Superbowl.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
Maybe next to Joe Cowley, too.
Last time I was in the Metrodome, Brian Urlacher sat out, I was in the Hormel Hot Dog Row of the Game and got a free hot dog, Rex Grossman began to lead the Bears back from a somewhat significant deficit before shredding his knee 60 yards from me, Jonathan Quinn showed he was at least half as well-equipped to complete the comeback as Will Furrer ever was, and I walked out of the depressing cave to a 75-degree sunny day to find out Kerry Wood let the Mets bat around in the first inning en route to a 3-2 loss. More hilarity preceded and followed the event, but, yeah, it sucked. May your time in the Rollerdome be brighter.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
Maybe next to Joe Cowley, too.
Last time I was in the Metrodome, Brian Urlacher sat out, I was in the Hormel Hot Dog Row of the Game and got a free hot dog, Rex Grossman began to lead the Bears back from a somewhat significant deficit before shredding his knee 60 yards from me, Jonathan Quinn showed he was at least half as well-equipped to complete the comeback as Will Furrer ever was, and I walked out of the depressing cave to a 75-degree sunny day to find out Kerry Wood let the Mets bat around in the first inning en route to a 3-2 loss. More hilarity preceded and followed the event, but, yeah, it sucked. May your time in the Rollerdome be brighter.
Oh man. I remember that game. I always wondered what might have been if Rex hadn't blown out his knee on that touchdown run. Maybe he'd have been able to develop as a QB without getting his first real reps on a Superbowl contender. They probably would have made the playoffs, since two 8-8 teams made it that year. Either way, that game gave me the sads. I'm going to hope this ends better than that.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
Maybe next to Joe Cowley, too.
Last time I was in the Metrodome, Brian Urlacher sat out, I was in the Hormel Hot Dog Row of the Game and got a free hot dog, Rex Grossman began to lead the Bears back from a somewhat significant deficit before shredding his knee 60 yards from me, Jonathan Quinn showed he was at least half as well-equipped to complete the comeback as Will Furrer ever was, and I walked out of the depressing cave to a 75-degree sunny day to find out Kerry Wood let the Mets bat around in the first inning en route to a 3-2 loss. More hilarity preceded and followed the event, but, yeah, it sucked. May your time in the Rollerdome be brighter.
Oh man. I remember that game. I always wondered what might have been if Rex hadn't blown out his knee on that touchdown run. Maybe he'd have been able to develop as a QB without getting his first real reps on a Superbowl contender. They probably would have made the playoffs, since two 8-8 teams made it that year. Either way, that game gave me the sads. I'm going to hope this ends better than that.
I vividly remember my mother being extremely dead during that entire ordeal.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
Maybe next to Joe Cowley, too.
Last time I was in the Metrodome, Brian Urlacher sat out, I was in the Hormel Hot Dog Row of the Game and got a free hot dog, Rex Grossman began to lead the Bears back from a somewhat significant deficit before shredding his knee 60 yards from me, Jonathan Quinn showed he was at least half as well-equipped to complete the comeback as Will Furrer ever was, and I walked out of the depressing cave to a 75-degree sunny day to find out Kerry Wood let the Mets bat around in the first inning en route to a 3-2 loss. More hilarity preceded and followed the event, but, yeah, it sucked. May your time in the Rollerdome be brighter.
This was of course the day after Ryan Dempster and LaTroy Hawkins shit the tub and allowed Victor Diaz his day in the sun.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
Maybe next to Joe Cowley, too.
Last time I was in the Metrodome, Brian Urlacher sat out, I was in the Hormel Hot Dog Row of the Game and got a free hot dog, Rex Grossman began to lead the Bears back from a somewhat significant deficit before shredding his knee 60 yards from me, Jonathan Quinn showed he was at least half as well-equipped to complete the comeback as Will Furrer ever was, and I walked out of the depressing cave to a 75-degree sunny day to find out Kerry Wood let the Mets bat around in the first inning en route to a 3-2 loss. More hilarity preceded and followed the event, but, yeah, it sucked. May your time in the Rollerdome be brighter.
This was of course the day after Ryan Dempster and LaTroy Hawkins shit the tub and allowed Victor Diaz his day in the sun.
I'm just glad you could find yet another thread to bitch about Dempster in.
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Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
Maybe next to Joe Cowley, too.
Last time I was in the Metrodome, Brian Urlacher sat out, I was in the Hormel Hot Dog Row of the Game and got a free hot dog, Rex Grossman began to lead the Bears back from a somewhat significant deficit before shredding his knee 60 yards from me, Jonathan Quinn showed he was at least half as well-equipped to complete the comeback as Will Furrer ever was, and I walked out of the depressing cave to a 75-degree sunny day to find out Kerry Wood let the Mets bat around in the first inning en route to a 3-2 loss. More hilarity preceded and followed the event, but, yeah, it sucked. May your time in the Rollerdome be brighter.
This was of course the day after Ryan Dempster and LaTroy Hawkins shit the tub and allowed Victor Diaz his day in the sun.
I'm just glad you could find yet another thread to bitch about Dempster in.
To remind all of you bullshit tolerators of your tolerance for bullshit.
He's coming back, you know.
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Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
Maybe next to Joe Cowley, too.
Last time I was in the Metrodome, Brian Urlacher sat out, I was in the Hormel Hot Dog Row of the Game and got a free hot dog, Rex Grossman began to lead the Bears back from a somewhat significant deficit before shredding his knee 60 yards from me, Jonathan Quinn showed he was at least half as well-equipped to complete the comeback as Will Furrer ever was, and I walked out of the depressing cave to a 75-degree sunny day to find out Kerry Wood let the Mets bat around in the first inning en route to a 3-2 loss. More hilarity preceded and followed the event, but, yeah, it sucked. May your time in the Rollerdome be brighter.
This was of course the day after Ryan Dempster and LaTroy Hawkins shit the tub and allowed Victor Diaz his day in the sun.
I'm just glad you could find yet another thread to bitch about Dempster in.
To remind all of you bullshit tolerators of your tolerance for bullshit.
He's coming back you, know.
It'll be great when he comes back you.
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Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
Maybe next to Joe Cowley, too.
Last time I was in the Metrodome, Brian Urlacher sat out, I was in the Hormel Hot Dog Row of the Game and got a free hot dog, Rex Grossman began to lead the Bears back from a somewhat significant deficit before shredding his knee 60 yards from me, Jonathan Quinn showed he was at least half as well-equipped to complete the comeback as Will Furrer ever was, and I walked out of the depressing cave to a 75-degree sunny day to find out Kerry Wood let the Mets bat around in the first inning en route to a 3-2 loss. More hilarity preceded and followed the event, but, yeah, it sucked. May your time in the Rollerdome be brighter.
This was of course the day after Ryan Dempster and LaTroy Hawkins shit the tub and allowed Victor Diaz his day in the sun.
I'm just glad you could find yet another thread to bitch about Dempster in.
To remind all of you bullshit tolerators of your tolerance for bullshit.
He's coming back you, know.
It'll be great when he comes back you.
Huey's too big for come back.
My one trip to see the Bears in the Humpdome was in 2001, a convincing pwnage by the beloved with a second-year Urlacher roaming sideline to sideline (sigh), so I hope Sunday's game is more reminiscent of the one I went to than the TJ went to.
Webb's strategy of letting Allen run past him untouched, hoping he might trip on the turf monster, is ambitious but rubbish.
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Am I wrong to be more worried about Chris Conte's health than Urlacher's? Now they finally have a chance to see what Zorich can do there.
Yes, you are wrong. VERY wrong.
Debilitating injuries to integral players? Woeful drafting and a lack of organizational depth?
Obviously the answer is to fire the nine year head coach with a winning record and a Super Bowl appearance to his credit.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 09, 2012, 03:26:33 PM
Debilitating injuries to integral players? Woeful drafting and a lack of organizational depth?
Obviously the answer is to fire the nine year head coach with a winning record and a Super Bowl appearance to his credit.
YABBUT HIS ATTITUDE
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 09, 2012, 03:26:33 PM
Debilitating injuries to integral players? Woeful drafting and a lack of organizational depth?
Obviously the answer is to fire the nine year head coach with a winning record and a Super Bowl appearance to his credit.
Chuck hopes they lose out the season, so a "house cleaning" can begin.
"Coaches and the older players". (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p148349049&date=2012-12-7#p148349049)
Presumably clearing out the latter to make room for all the young guys the Bears have languishing in the minors. Brett Jackson for Mike linebacker.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
Peanut (foot) and Briggs (ankle) looked a step slow too. Chris Conte needs to hurry back. HGH being a helluva drug and what not, there could be some improvement in the back seven this weekend. There will ahve to be. Major Wrong is not our friend.
This a thousand times. If he could make just one tackle, the Bears probably win Sunday.
Or catch one interception.
I'm looking forward to this Vikings game. Interested to see how many times Peanut punches Jared Allen in his tiny balls.
I'm hoping J'Marcus Webb breaks him in two.
I'll be at the game on Sunday, so I'll have better perspective on all of this than you people. I'll have to give my expert opinion to Doug and OB on the way home.
Are you sitting next to BH or Slezak? Or do you have the middle seat?
I'll be sitting next to Dad, so I'll be the guy on TV beating his father after Cutler throws 1 INT after 4 TD passes and he shouts "that's why he's not an NFL quarterback, and the Chicago Bears are about running the ball, anyway."*
How'd that work out for you? Or did your Dad join in the Vikings fans reminding you that there are times that Cutler is lazy, throws off his back foot, and sucks donkey dick as an NFL QB*...because while receivers didn't catch some key balls, the long and short of this game is that Cutler inexcusably threw it away.
* - Actual quote from a Vikings fan sitting near me.
Chicago Bears (8-5)
Wk. 15 -- 12/16 vs GB
Wk. 16 -- 12/23 @ Arizona
Wk. 17 -- 12/30 @ Detroit
Predictions? Pex?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2012, 09:13:11 PM
Chicago Bears (8-5)
Wk. 15 -- 12/16 vs GB
Wk. 16 -- 12/23 @ Arizona
Wk. 17 -- 12/30 @ Detroit
Predictions? Pex?
L, W, W... L.
Bob Gould, out for the season. (https://twitter.com/ProFootballWkly/status/278562952347529216)
Welcome your new kicker.
(http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlesports/files/library/MareOlindoMiss.jpg)
What could go wrong?
Cutler is absolute trash. There's much more wrong than him - the o-line and a joke of a receiver corps after B-Marsh, but Cutler is a huge fucking liability right now with his penchant for throwing balls right to the numbers of opposing defenders in situations where he's not under pressure and has time to make a decision.
Unfortunately we haven't been bad enough lately to draft a viable QB, but it's time to trade, if necessary, to draft a franchise QB, cut Cutler, suck for a year or two, rebuild the line, and actually build a good team. This patchwork mediocre bullshit of no line, one receiver, an inconsistent and retarded QB, aging defense, and washed up, loser, fucktards for coordinators is a giant fucking trainwreck. Time to euthanize the Bears career of just about everyone associated with it and start over.
I hate to bitch about officiating, but sweet Jesus the refs were awful today.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 16, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
I hate to bitch about officiating, but sweet Jesus the refs were awful today.
So were the Bears.
So were the Packers, for that matter.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 16, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
I hate to bitch about officiating, but sweet Jesus the refs were awful today.
The English language is woefully insufficient for providing the verbal abuse that that crew deserves, and there's probably not enough beer in Soldier Field to throw on them. If I were the Bears ground crew, I'd be inventing a reason that the refs had to wait, exposed, for about 5 minutes before letting them find cover.
Quote from: Slaky on December 16, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 16, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
I hate to bitch about officiating, but sweet Jesus the refs were awful today.
So were the Bears.
So were the Packers, for that matter.
That game was so bad I can't even enjoy the Packers' moronic trick punt return.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 16, 2012, 01:18:49 PM
Cutler is absolute trash. There's much more wrong than him - the o-line and a joke of a receiver corps after B-Marsh, but Cutler is a huge fucking liability right now with his penchant for throwing balls right to the numbers of opposing defenders in situations where he's not under pressure and has time to make a decision.
Unfortunately we haven't been bad enough lately to draft a viable QB, but it's time to trade, if necessary, to draft a franchise QB, cut Cutler, suck for a year or two, rebuild the line, and actually build a good team. This patchwork mediocre bullshit of no line, one receiver, an inconsistent and retarded QB, aging defense, and washed up, loser, fucktards for coordinators is a giant fucking trainwreck. Time to euthanize the Bears career of just about everyone associated with it and start over.
OK.
Quote from: Eli on December 16, 2012, 07:28:40 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 16, 2012, 01:18:49 PM
Cutler is absolute trash. There's much more wrong than him - the o-line and a joke of a receiver corps after B-Marsh, but Cutler is a huge fucking liability right now with his penchant for throwing balls right to the numbers of opposing defenders in situations where he's not under pressure and has time to make a decision.
Unfortunately we haven't been bad enough lately to draft a viable QB, but it's time to trade, if necessary, to draft a franchise QB, cut Cutler, suck for a year or two, rebuild the line, and actually build a good team. This patchwork mediocre bullshit of no line, one receiver, an inconsistent and retarded QB, aging defense, and washed up, loser, fucktards for coordinators is a giant fucking trainwreck. Time to euthanize the Bears career of just about everyone associated with it and start over.
OK.
QBs I'd definitely rather have than Cutler:
Brady, Rodgers, Brees, both Mannings, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Luck, Schaub, Newton, RG III - Cutler, not a Top 10 QB.
QBs that I think you could make a legit case for having instead of Cutler:
Freeman, Stafford, Wilson, Dalton, Rivers, Romo, Kappernick, Flacco.
The Bears gave up a lot for a barely, or perhaps not even median/top-half QB who singlehandedly throws at least 2 winnable games away each season.
The only QBs I definitely wouldn't want over Cutler are on bad to awful teams in the AFC West, NFC West, and AFC East...and in cesspools of suck like Cleveland. Cutler has shown no progression, no evolution, nothing to suggest he'll get better. His pick today was horrible. His two picks in Minneapolis showed mechanics that suggest a mentally lazy, undisciplined QB who won't or can't disabuse himself of throwing off his back foot and leaving balls high.
Time to give up on this experiment, suck for whoever the next Luck is, and build a top-5 o-line in the process. When you go from 7-1 to 8-6, your QB has to take a lot of that blame.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 16, 2012, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 16, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 16, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
I hate to bitch about officiating, but sweet Jesus the refs were awful today.
So were the Bears.
So were the Packers, for that matter.
That game was so bad I can't even enjoy the Packers' moronic trick punt return.
That and the 2 fourth down conversions--one that was 4th and 6th that they opted for so as to not let Mason Crosby shank his third attempt, which also deserves mention-- shows how little regard the Packers had for that collection of dudes in the old school navy blue unis. Cutler's last stand starts now, else Lovie's actually down to his last 2 games.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 16, 2012, 08:48:59 PM
The Bears gave up a lot for a barely, or perhaps not even median/top-half QB who singlehandedly throws at least 2 winnable games away each season.
What two winnable games did he throw away in 2009? 2010? 2011?
Quote from: Brownie on December 16, 2012, 11:47:06 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 16, 2012, 08:48:59 PM
The Bears gave up a lot for a barely, or perhaps not even median/top-half QB who singlehandedly throws at least 2 winnable games away each season.
What two winnable games did he throw away in 2009? 2010? 2011?
2009 - Green Bay (twice), San Francisco (5 picks in a 4 point game lol), Atlanta (red zone pick on the first drive, 7 off a pick in the 2nd quarter, so 10-14 points in a 7 point game)
2010 - Washington (I pick great games to watch live...those 4 picks were as brutal as his performance this year in the Metrodome), and while not throwing picks, he played incredibly poorly the week before in the loss to Seattle. You could also say his 2 picks in the first half cost that mostly meaningless game against GB in Week 17.
2011 - Tampa Bay...and I'm going to count the pick that cost him the rest of his season (and 6 opportunities to throw another game away) against SD.
Question answered?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 16, 2012, 08:48:59 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 16, 2012, 07:28:40 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 16, 2012, 01:18:49 PM
Cutler is absolute trash. There's much more wrong than him - the o-line and a joke of a receiver corps after B-Marsh, but Cutler is a huge fucking liability right now with his penchant for throwing balls right to the numbers of opposing defenders in situations where he's not under pressure and has time to make a decision.
Unfortunately we haven't been bad enough lately to draft a viable QB, but it's time to trade, if necessary, to draft a franchise QB, cut Cutler, suck for a year or two, rebuild the line, and actually build a good team. This patchwork mediocre bullshit of no line, one receiver, an inconsistent and retarded QB, aging defense, and washed up, loser, fucktards for coordinators is a giant fucking trainwreck. Time to euthanize the Bears career of just about everyone associated with it and start over.
OK.
QBs I'd definitely rather have than Cutler:
Brady, Rodgers, Brees, both Mannings, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Luck, Schaub, Newton, RG III - Cutler, not a Top 10 QB.
QBs that I think you could make a legit case for having instead of Cutler:
Freeman, Stafford, Wilson, Dalton, Rivers, Romo, Kappernick, Flacco.
The Bears gave up a lot for a barely, or perhaps not even median/top-half QB who singlehandedly throws at least 2 winnable games away each season.
The only QBs I definitely wouldn't want over Cutler are on bad to awful teams in the AFC West, NFC West, and AFC East...and in cesspools of suck like Cleveland. Cutler has shown no progression, no evolution, nothing to suggest he'll get better. His pick today was horrible. His two picks in Minneapolis showed mechanics that suggest a mentally lazy, undisciplined QB who won't or can't disabuse himself of throwing off his back foot and leaving balls high.
Time to give up on this experiment, suck for whoever the next Luck is, and build a top-5 o-line in the process. When you go from 7-1 to 8-6, your QB has to take a lot of that blame.
OK.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 16, 2012, 03:05:17 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 16, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
I hate to bitch about officiating, but sweet Jesus the refs were awful today.
The English language is woefully insufficient for providing the verbal abuse that that crew deserves, and there's probably not enough beer in Soldier Field to throw on them. If I were the Bears ground crew, I'd be inventing a reason that the refs had to wait, exposed, for about 5 minutes before letting them find cover.
Yeah! We should kill the refs because the Bears lost!
I've got no problem with the Bears going FullTheo and clearing our everyone and everything. But Cutler's rep in this town is simply amazing. What some logical football fans have come to say about him stuns me. One guy told me that he'd take Ponder over Cutler and "it's not even close."
I think Cutler's a middle of the pack QB, maybe close to #10 on a really good team. He'll never be an MVP level guy. But why all the hate for this guy? Maybe because he's such an ass? He's not the main reason this team loses. That's on the coaches and the old player personnel department.
I tend to think it's his attitude. Were he as friendly as Mark Grace, Cutler would be beloved in this city.
In a game like yesterday's you could clearly see the difference in ability between Rodgers and Cutler. Cutler didn't look awful by any stretch, the one glaring pick should not doom an entire game. The complete lack of production from anyone other than Marshall and Forte did. The inability to gain one yard in three tries on two separate occasions did. But Rodgers makes more plays that boggle the mind than any quarterback I've ever seen live. Manning made all the throws and mentally destroyed opponents. Brady seemingly never makes a mistake. Favre had the cannon to get away with just about anything. But Rodgers is a fucking wizard.
And I'm all set with Bears fans shitting on Cutler - or just Bears fans in general. I'm pretty much sick of myself at this point.
This is going to be a long day.
Quote from: flannj on December 30, 2012, 12:15:34 PM
This is going to be a long day.
This offense is full of the biggest bunch of gutless fuckity-fucks since the 2006 Cubs. 16 points off those turnovers is pathetic.
And of course they score a TD in 3 plays after the worst penalty in the history of defensive dumbassery. It's hilarious watching a team that, in all phases, has so little interest in making the playoffs try and back their way into it on the sheer force of Detroit's incompetence. Unreal.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 30, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
And of course they score a TD in 3 plays after the worst penalty in the history of defensive dumbassery. It's hilarious watching a team that, in all phases, has so little interest in making the playoffs try and back their way into it on the sheer force of Detroit's incompetence. Unreal.
Green Bay will win and the Bears will see you in New Orleans.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 30, 2012, 02:20:45 PM
Quote from: flannj on December 30, 2012, 12:15:34 PM
This is going to be a long day.
This offense is full of the biggest bunch of gutless fuckity-fucks since the 2006 Cubs. 16 points off those turnovers is pathetic.
QuoteAnd of course they score a TD in 3 plays after the worst penalty in the history of defensive dumbassery. It's hilarious watching a team that, in all phases, has so little interest in making the playoffs try and back their way into it on the sheer force of Detroit's incompetence. Unreal.
Do me a favor, going forward don't reply to any more of my posts.
Quote from: flannj on December 30, 2012, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 30, 2012, 02:20:45 PM
Quote from: flannj on December 30, 2012, 12:15:34 PM
This is going to be a long day.
This offense is full of the biggest bunch of gutless fuckity-fucks since the 2006 Cubs. 16 points off those turnovers is pathetic.
QuoteAnd of course they score a TD in 3 plays after the worst penalty in the history of defensive dumbassery. It's hilarious watching a team that, in all phases, has so little interest in making the playoffs try and back their way into it on the sheer force of Detroit's incompetence. Unreal.
Do me a favor, going forward don't reply to any more of my posts.
They did their part to back in, didn't they?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 30, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
And of course they score a TD in 3 plays after the worst penalty in the history of defensive dumbassery. It's hilarious watching a team that, in all phases, has so little interest in making the playoffs try and back their way into it on the sheer force of Detroit's incompetence. Unreal.
OK.
Green Bay had 11 yards of offense against the Vikings in the first quarter. Hmm.
Quote from: Eli on December 30, 2012, 03:32:44 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 30, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
And of course they score a TD in 3 plays after the worst penalty in the history of defensive dumbassery. It's hilarious watching a team that, in all phases, has so little interest in making the playoffs try and back their way into it on the sheer force of Detroit's incompetence. Unreal.
OK.
I know AP is good, but so is Forte. And the Viqueens defense isnt as good as the Bears. So why the fuck can minnesota, with Christian fucking Ponder under center score at will on the Packers, while the Bears offense licks ballsweat off everyone but the Jets and Cardinals and Browns, etc.of the NFL?
Today's offensive performance was nothing less than bad, and probably terrible, and the defense somehow did just enough less bad (the TD before half and Briggs penalty) to not quite offset they're taking advantage of a god-awful Lions team.
In the last eight games, please point to ONE thing this team can hang its hat on. One. It's not there. If this team were halfway decent, they'd be 13-3. And there's really no disputing that the losses to Seattle and Green Bay and at Minnesota were self-inflicted wounds and not the product of losing to opponents that deserved to win.
Quote from: CBStew on December 30, 2012, 04:09:14 PM
Green Bay had 11 yards of offense against the Vikings in the first quarter. Hmm.
Thi.....
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 30, 2012, 04:11:19 PM
I know AP is good, but so is Forte. And the Viqueens defense isnt as good as the Bears. So why the fuck can minnesota, with Christian fucking Ponder under center score at will on the Packers, while the Bears offense licks ballsweat off everyone but the Jets and Cardinals and Browns, etc.of the NFL?
Today's offensive performance was nothing less than bad, and probably terrible, and the defense somehow did just enough less bad (the TD before half and Briggs penalty) to not quite offset they're taking advantage of a god-awful Lions team.
In the last eight games, please point to ONE thing this team can hang its hat on. One. It's not there. If this team were halfway decent, they'd be 13-3. And there's really no disputing that the losses to Seattle and Green Bay and at Minnesota were self-inflicted wounds and not the product of losing to opponents that deserved to win.
I stopped reading as soon as I saw that. Forte is a nice back, but if the Bears had Adrian Peterson, Matt Forte would be covering kicks.
Quote from: CT III on December 30, 2012, 05:00:16 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 30, 2012, 04:11:19 PM
I know AP is good, but so is Forte. And the Viqueens defense isnt as good as the Bears. So why the fuck can minnesota, with Christian fucking Ponder under center score at will on the Packers, while the Bears offense licks ballsweat off everyone but the Jets and Cardinals and Browns, etc.of the NFL?
Today's offensive performance was nothing less than bad, and probably terrible, and the defense somehow did just enough less bad (the TD before half and Briggs penalty) to not quite offset they're taking advantage of a god-awful Lions team.
In the last eight games, please point to ONE thing this team can hang its hat on. One. It's not there. If this team were halfway decent, they'd be 13-3. And there's really no disputing that the losses to Seattle and Green Bay and at Minnesota were self-inflicted wounds and not the product of losing to opponents that deserved to win.
I stopped reading as soon as I saw that. Forte is a nice back, but if the Bears had Adrian Peterson, Matt Forte would be covering kicks.
And they'd still be losing to the Packers.
Andy Reid time! (No.)
This is what a bunch of gutless pieces of shit that couldn't stop Russel Wilson on 3rd and forever ir avoid throwing the two worst picks in the history of ever to the Vikings deserve. To the firebarn with them all. Absolutely worthless gutless fuckity fucks
On a high note, the last time they had the 20th pick they traded it to the Browns for Mike Phipps so I guess that means Colt McCoy will be a Bear next season.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 30, 2012, 06:54:40 PM
This is what a bunch of gutless pieces of shit that couldn't stop Russel Wilson on 3rd and forever ir avoid throwing the two worst picks in the history of ever to the Vikings deserve. To the firebarn with them all. Absolutely worthless gutless fuckity fucks
/thread.
"Lovestink is Forever". "Devin Hester = Wide Receiver." Can we get an agreement that Apex's football predictions are as valuable as Bonk's Deadpool threads?
Also, Devin, fuck off, and go home. I'm done with him. 3 punt returns yesterday for 6 yards. Also, he had like an 8 yard KO return on a kick that was in the EZ.
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
"Lovestink is Forever". "Devin Hester = Wide Receiver." Can we get an agreement that Apex's football predictions are as valuable as Bonk's Deadpool threads?
Also, Devin, fuck off, and go home. I'm done with him. 3 punt returns yesterday for 6 yards. Also, he had like an 8 yard KO return on a kick that was in the EZ.
Hester's never been as good of a kickoff returner as a punt returner. At this point, the only thing this dumbass should be doing is returning punts. Him returning kickoffs and playing on offense makes beby jebus cry.
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
"Lovestink is Forever". "Devin Hester = Wide Receiver." Can we get an agreement that Apex's football predictions are as valuable as Bonk's Deadpool threads?
Also, Devin, fuck off, and go home. I'm done with him. 3 punt returns yesterday for 6 yards. Also, he had like an 8 yard KO return on a kick that was in the EZ.
And yeah, LOLZ at Apez' graffix-induced "predictions".
Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
"Lovestink is Forever". "Devin Hester = Wide Receiver." Can we get an agreement that Apex's football predictions are as valuable as Bonk's Deadpool threads?
Also, Devin, fuck off, and go home. I'm done with him. 3 punt returns yesterday for 6 yards. Also, he had like an 8 yard KO return on a kick that was in the EZ.
And yeah, LOLZ at Apez' graffix-induced "predictions".
Is Graffix still in business?
Quote from: Oleg on December 31, 2012, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
"Lovestink is Forever". "Devin Hester = Wide Receiver." Can we get an agreement that Apex's football predictions are as valuable as Bonk's Deadpool threads?
Also, Devin, fuck off, and go home. I'm done with him. 3 punt returns yesterday for 6 yards. Also, he had like an 8 yard KO return on a kick that was in the EZ.
And yeah, LOLZ at Apez' graffix-induced "predictions".
Is Graffix still in business?
I bet I know a head shop owner you could ask.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 31, 2012, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 31, 2012, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
"Lovestink is Forever". "Devin Hester = Wide Receiver." Can we get an agreement that Apex's football predictions are as valuable as Bonk's Deadpool threads?
Also, Devin, fuck off, and go home. I'm done with him. 3 punt returns yesterday for 6 yards. Also, he had like an 8 yard KO return on a kick that was in the EZ.
And yeah, LOLZ at Apez' graffix-induced "predictions".
Is Graffix still in business?
I bet I know a head shop owner you could ask.
That's a fool's bet.
I wasn't particularly anxious to see an injury depleted Bears team face Green Bay for a third time this season. There is only so much abuse one can stomach.
Quote from: CBStew on December 31, 2012, 02:38:51 PM
I wasn't particularly anxious to see an injury depleted Bears team face Green Bay for a third time this season. There is only so much abuse one can stomach.
Unless Packers-Vikings had ended in a tie, the Bears would have been facing the 49ers in the first round.
If the Bears won that game, they'd go on to Atlanta the next week. Only if both teams would make it to the NFC Championship would the Packers have a chance to host the Bears again.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 31, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 31, 2012, 02:38:51 PM
I wasn't particularly anxious to see an injury depleted Bears team face Green Bay for a third time this season. There is only so much abuse one can stomach.
Unless Packers-Vikings had ended in a tie, the Bears would have been facing the 49ers in the first round.
Oh. Well that makes all the difference. The Bears had no problem with the 49ers this season.
Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
"Lovestink is Forever". "Devin Hester = Wide Receiver." Can we get an agreement that Apex's football predictions are as valuable as Bonk's Deadpool threads?
Also, Devin, fuck off, and go home. I'm done with him. 3 punt returns yesterday for 6 yards. Also, he had like an 8 yard KO return on a kick that was in the EZ.
And yeah, LOLZ at Apez' graffix-induced "predictions".
God dammit. Don't you people understand what "/thread" means?
*lurches forward in chair*
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 31, 2012, 05:43:02 PM
God dammit. Don't you people understand what "/thread" means?
(http://i.imgur.com/mmis4.png)
IN BEFORE LOCK!
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 31, 2012, 05:43:02 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
"Lovestink is Forever". "Devin Hester = Wide Receiver." Can we get an agreement that Apex's football predictions are as valuable as Bonk's Deadpool threads?
Also, Devin, fuck off, and go home. I'm done with him. 3 punt returns yesterday for 6 yards. Also, he had like an 8 yard KO return on a kick that was in the EZ.
And yeah, LOLZ at Apez' graffix-induced "predictions".
God dammit. Don't you people understand what "/thread" means?
*lurches forward in chair*
That's okay, Apex. At least you've been on the right side of the Peanut Tillman debate for a decade now.
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2016, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2016, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 07:25:12 AM
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Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
I think he'd make a fine college head coach. Players seem to love him. He's diplomatic and fair. There is less parity in the college game so he could possibly amass a great heap of talent at some school that hasn't won anything in forever and march them straight to a bunch of middling bowl games and I think I just talked myself into Lovie for the Purdue job.
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Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
I think he'd make a fine college head coach. Players seem to love him. He's diplomatic and fair. There is less parity in the college game so he could possibly amass a great heap of talent at some school that hasn't won anything in forever and march them straight to a bunch of middling bowl games and I think I just talked myself into Lovie for the Purdue job.
Right. I guess my point is that I could agree with firing Lovie if you were a new GM who came into the situation and decided that you didn't want him to lead your franchise. At this point Lovie is pretty much a known quantity, and I wouldn't blame a franchise for deciding they want to get someone with a potentially higher ceiling than "consistently respectable wild card contender."
But I don't think the Bucs have any actual plan or desire to get a guy who might be an innovator or whatever. Rumors say they want to promote Dirk Koetter from OC to HC and holy shit is that stupid.
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Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2016, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
I think he'd make a fine college head coach. Players seem to love him. He's diplomatic and fair. There is less parity in the college game so he could possibly amass a great heap of talent at some school that hasn't won anything in forever and march them straight to a bunch of middling bowl games and I think I just talked myself into Lovie for the Purdue job.
Right. I guess my point is that I could agree with firing Lovie if you were a new GM who came into the situation and decided that you didn't want him to lead your franchise. At this point Lovie is pretty much a known quantity, and I wouldn't blame a franchise for deciding they want to get someone with a potentially higher ceiling than "consistently respectable wild card contender."
But I don't think the Bucs have any actual plan or desire to get a guy who might be an innovator or whatever. Rumors say they want to promote Dirk Koetter from OC to HC and holy shit is that stupid.
People have been calling the Score asking if the Bears could fire Fox and promote Gase almost all season, and it gets dismissed as an idiotic sports thought every time. Well, the Bucs are actually doing it.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
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Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2016, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
I think he'd make a fine college head coach. Players seem to love him. He's diplomatic and fair. There is less parity in the college game so he could possibly amass a great heap of talent at some school that hasn't won anything in forever and march them straight to a bunch of middling bowl games and I think I just talked myself into Lovie for the Purdue job.
Right. I guess my point is that I could agree with firing Lovie if you were a new GM who came into the situation and decided that you didn't want him to lead your franchise. At this point Lovie is pretty much a known quantity, and I wouldn't blame a franchise for deciding they want to get someone with a potentially higher ceiling than "consistently respectable wild card contender."
But I don't think the Bucs have any actual plan or desire to get a guy who might be an innovator or whatever. Rumors say they want to promote Dirk Koetter from OC to HC and holy shit is that stupid.
People have been calling the Score asking if the Bears could fire Fox and promote Gase almost all season, and it gets dismissed as an idiotic sports thought every time. Well, the Bucs are actually doing it.
Gase is an actual innovative offensive mind who has been interviewed for numerous HC openings and might not do some of the dumb, conservative shit that Fox is prone to, so while I'm not pushing for it the Bears doing that would be less dumb than the Bucs hiring Dirk Koetter, a 60 year old fucking retread who was a mediocre OC for the Falcons and Jaguars and managed a whopping 40-34 record as a head coach at Arizona State.
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 09:46:05 AM
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Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 07, 2016, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 07:25:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2016, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
I think he'd make a fine college head coach. Players seem to love him. He's diplomatic and fair. There is less parity in the college game so he could possibly amass a great heap of talent at some school that hasn't won anything in forever and march them straight to a bunch of middling bowl games and I think I just talked myself into Lovie for the Purdue job.
Right. I guess my point is that I could agree with firing Lovie if you were a new GM who came into the situation and decided that you didn't want him to lead your franchise. At this point Lovie is pretty much a known quantity, and I wouldn't blame a franchise for deciding they want to get someone with a potentially higher ceiling than "consistently respectable wild card contender."
But I don't think the Bucs have any actual plan or desire to get a guy who might be an innovator or whatever. Rumors say they want to promote Dirk Koetter from OC to HC and holy shit is that stupid.
People have been calling the Score asking if the Bears could fire Fox and promote Gase almost all season, and it gets dismissed as an idiotic sports thought every time. Well, the Bucs are actually doing it.
Gase is an actual innovative offensive mind who has been interviewed for numerous HC openings and might not do some of the dumb, conservative shit that Fox is prone to, so while I'm not pushing for it the Bears doing that would be less dumb than the Bucs hiring Dirk Koetter, a 60 year old fucking retread who was a mediocre OC for the Falcons and Jaguars and managed a whopping 40-34 record as a head coach at Arizona State.
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2016, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
I think he'd make a fine college head coach. Players seem to love him. He's diplomatic and fair. There is less parity in the college game so he could possibly amass a great heap of talent at some school that hasn't won anything in forever and march them straight to a bunch of middling bowl games and I think I just talked myself into Lovie for the Purdue job.
Right. I guess my point is that I could agree with firing Lovie if you were a new GM who came into the situation and decided that you didn't want him to lead your franchise. At this point Lovie is pretty much a known quantity, and I wouldn't blame a franchise for deciding they want to get someone with a potentially higher ceiling than "consistently respectable wild card contender."
But I don't think the Bucs have any actual plan or desire to get a guy who might be an innovator or whatever. Rumors say they want to promote Dirk Koetter from OC to HC and holy shit is that stupid.
People have been calling the Score asking if the Bears could fire Fox and promote Gase almost all season, and it gets dismissed as an idiotic sports thought every time. Well, the Bucs are actually doing it.
Gase is an actual innovative offensive mind who has been interviewed for numerous HC openings and might not do some of the dumb, conservative shit that Fox is prone to, so while I'm not pushing for it the Bears doing that would be less dumb than the Bucs hiring Dirk Koetter, a 60 year old fucking retread who was a mediocre OC for the Falcons and Jaguars and managed a whopping 40-34 record as a head coach at Arizona State.
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Or just hire another offensive minded coach who isn't Dirk Koetter. I refuse to believe anything good will come from Dirk Koetter. I draw the line here.
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Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2016, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
I think he'd make a fine college head coach. Players seem to love him. He's diplomatic and fair. There is less parity in the college game so he could possibly amass a great heap of talent at some school that hasn't won anything in forever and march them straight to a bunch of middling bowl games and I think I just talked myself into Lovie for the Purdue job.
Right. I guess my point is that I could agree with firing Lovie if you were a new GM who came into the situation and decided that you didn't want him to lead your franchise. At this point Lovie is pretty much a known quantity, and I wouldn't blame a franchise for deciding they want to get someone with a potentially higher ceiling than "consistently respectable wild card contender."
But I don't think the Bucs have any actual plan or desire to get a guy who might be an innovator or whatever. Rumors say they want to promote Dirk Koetter from OC to HC and holy shit is that stupid.
People have been calling the Score asking if the Bears could fire Fox and promote Gase almost all season, and it gets dismissed as an idiotic sports thought every time. Well, the Bucs are actually doing it.
Gase is an actual innovative offensive mind who has been interviewed for numerous HC openings and might not do some of the dumb, conservative shit that Fox is prone to, so while I'm not pushing for it the Bears doing that would be less dumb than the Bucs hiring Dirk Koetter, a 60 year old fucking retread who was a mediocre OC for the Falcons and Jaguars and managed a whopping 40-34 record as a head coach at Arizona State.
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Or just hire another offensive minded coach who isn't Dirk Koetter. I refuse to believe anything good will come from Dirk Koetter. I draw the line here.
Just making this move sends a pretty shitty message about yourself to the rest of the league. Who the hell would
want to work in that environment?
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Quote from: PANK! on December 27, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 27, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
Lovestink on full display.
I think.
I barely watched.
I just still hate Lovie as a coach. And wanted to say it.
Was actually 2-for-2 on challenges--including a re-spot which seems to rarely happen for anyone.
Aside from that he's gotten better at missing the playoffs. In his second season here, the Bears won the division.
/Lovie in Tampa.
Am I crazy in thinking he didn't even really get a chance down there? You fire Marc Trestman after two years if you're dumb enough to hire him in the first place, but firing Lovie that quickly seems pretty impatient. I mean the team he took over was 4-12, with no QB.
He didn't get a chance. I'm not sure they'd have ever reached great heights with him but this certainly is the wrong way to go about things.
I think he'd make a fine college head coach. Players seem to love him. He's diplomatic and fair. There is less parity in the college game so he could possibly amass a great heap of talent at some school that hasn't won anything in forever and march them straight to a bunch of middling bowl games and I think I just talked myself into Lovie for the Purdue job.
Right. I guess my point is that I could agree with firing Lovie if you were a new GM who came into the situation and decided that you didn't want him to lead your franchise. At this point Lovie is pretty much a known quantity, and I wouldn't blame a franchise for deciding they want to get someone with a potentially higher ceiling than "consistently respectable wild card contender."
But I don't think the Bucs have any actual plan or desire to get a guy who might be an innovator or whatever. Rumors say they want to promote Dirk Koetter from OC to HC and holy shit is that stupid.
People have been calling the Score asking if the Bears could fire Fox and promote Gase almost all season, and it gets dismissed as an idiotic sports thought every time. Well, the Bucs are actually doing it.
Gase is an actual innovative offensive mind who has been interviewed for numerous HC openings and might not do some of the dumb, conservative shit that Fox is prone to, so while I'm not pushing for it the Bears doing that would be less dumb than the Bucs hiring Dirk Koetter, a 60 year old fucking retread who was a mediocre OC for the Falcons and Jaguars and managed a whopping 40-34 record as a head coach at Arizona State.
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Or just hire another offensive minded coach who isn't Dirk Koetter. I refuse to believe anything good will come from Dirk Koetter. I draw the line here.
Just making this move sends a pretty shitty message about yourself to the rest of the league. Who the hell would want to work in that environment?
Right. You fired a coach who is beloved by his players (LaVonte David and several Bucs players bitched very loudly and publicly about it on twitter yesterday), and is well-respected and beloved in Tampa for his work in helping to build the only successful run in Bucs history anyway, after just two years into a rebuild (when he had improved by 4 wins from year one to year two), all because the rookie quarterback liked his OC and wanted him to stay at all costs?
Fuck Jameis Winston. He's a rookie dipshit. Who cares if he likes Dirk Koetter? It's the only NFL OC he's ever had and there are far better ones out there. Fear of losing Dirk f--king Koetter is not reason enough to throw Lovie overboard at the cost of alienating your defense.
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
Fuck Jameis Winston. He's a rookie dipshit. Who cares if he likes Dirk Koetter? It's the only NFL OC he's ever had and there are far better ones out there. Fear of losing Dirk f--king Koetter is not reason enough to throw Lovie overboard at the cost of alienating your defense.
Seriously, why would you make moves based on your franchise QB that you just took with the #1 overall pick in the draft who is probably going to win Rookie of the Year?
Franchise QBs grow on trees.
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Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
Fuck Jameis Winston. He's a rookie dipshit.[/b] Who cares if he likes Dirk Koetter? It's the only NFL OC he's ever had and there are far better ones out there. Fear of losing Dirk f--king Koetter is not reason enough to throw Lovie overboard at the cost of alienating your defense.
Seriously, why would you make moves based on your franchise QB that you just took with the #1 overall pick in the draft?
I'm not disagreeing with building around your quarterback, I'm saying don't build around your quarterback if it means making Dirk Koetter your head coach. If you want to get an offensive-minded head coach, fine. Dirk Koetter should not be that guy.
I mean let's say Jameis Winston had a half decent rookie season under Mike Martz. Would you make him the head coach if Jameis really liked him? No, because that's fucking stupid. Dirk Koetter sucks.
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Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
Fuck Jameis Winston. He's a rookie dipshit.[/b] Who cares if he likes Dirk Koetter? It's the only NFL OC he's ever had and there are far better ones out there. Fear of losing Dirk f--king Koetter is not reason enough to throw Lovie overboard at the cost of alienating your defense.
Seriously, why would you make moves based on your franchise QB that you just took with the #1 overall pick in the draft?
I'm not disagreeing with building around your quarterback, I'm saying don't build around your quarterback if it means making Dirk Koetter your head coach. If you want to get an offensive-minded head coach, fine. Dirk Koetter should not be that guy.
I mean let's say Jameis Winston had a half decent rookie season under Mike Martz. Would you make him the head coach if Jameis really liked him? No, because that's fucking stupid. Dirk Koetter sucks.
I will say that shit like this is totally ridiculous and disingenuous.
Lovie wasn't the problem.
(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/807/3252311331.jpg)
The Rams should fire Jeff Fisher this instant and hire Lovie Smith.
Dirk Koetter has been an offensive coordinator for ten years in the NFL and has finished higher than 24th in scoring....twice. He was a mediocre college coach the last time he had a head job. Who gives a fuck if Jameis likes him? He obviously doesn't know any better.
Better make that man a head coach before someone else snags him, I tell ya.
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:13:58 PM
Dirk Koetter has been an offensive coordinator for ten years in the NFL and has finished higher than 24th in scoring....twice. He was a mediocre college coach the last time he had a head job. Who gives a fuck if Jameis likes him? He obviously doesn't know any better.
Better make that man a head coach before someone else snags him, I tell ya.
They should hire a proven winner OC like Josh McDaniels.
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Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:13:58 PM
Dirk Koetter has been an offensive coordinator for ten years in the NFL and has finished higher than 24th in scoring....twice. He was a mediocre college coach the last time he had a head job. Who gives a fuck if Jameis likes him? He obviously doesn't know any better.
Better make that man a head coach before someone else snags him, I tell ya.
They should hire a proven winner OC like Josh McDaniels.
Hiring Josh McDaniels makes more sense (and it makes no sense) than firing Lovie just to promote Dirk Koetter. A whole year of being disengaged from football led to me forgetting how horribly wrong you are about everything all of the time. This has been a nice refresher.
I misread the numbers, Koetter has actually had four top 20 scoring teams (18th in 2010, 6th in 2007, 7th in 2012, and 12th in 2014). So in ten years as an OC he's had a better than league average offense three times, not two. My bad. Give him personnel control while you're at it.
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Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:13:58 PM
Dirk Koetter has been an offensive coordinator for ten years in the NFL and has finished higher than 24th in scoring....twice. He was a mediocre college coach the last time he had a head job. Who gives a fuck if Jameis likes him? He obviously doesn't know any better.
Better make that man a head coach before someone else snags him, I tell ya.
They should hire a proven winner OC like Josh McDaniels.
Hiring Josh McDaniels makes more sense (and it makes no sense) than firing Lovie just to promote Dirk Koetter. A whole year of being disengaged from football led to me forgetting how horribly wrong you are about everything all of the time. This has been a nice refresher.
You're the only one arguing about Dirk Koetter, though you obviously don't realize that.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
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Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
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Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Fuck off. I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit. I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game.
Quote from: PANK! on January 07, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Fuck off. I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit. I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game.
Pen is just trolling until he gets his beloved Dead Pool post.
Quote from: Bort on January 07, 2016, 01:48:59 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 07, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Fuck off. I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit. I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game.
Pen is just trolling until he gets his beloved Dead Pool post.
I do seriously love that post.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Licht hired Lovie Smith and fired him within two years but sure let's trust his judgment on whether the very model of a modern major mediocre offensive coordinator is their best bet for head coach just because a kid who has never had another NFL offensive coordinator think he's the best one evar.
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 02:02:59 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Licht hired Lovie Smith and fired him within two years but sure let's trust his judgment on whether the very model of a major mediocre offensive coordinator is their best bet for head coach just because a kid who has never had another NFL offensive coordinator think he's the best one evar.
Licht hired Lovie two years ago so he could finally see that McCown Magic Show sans Trestman.
Can we fire this thread and promote one of its assistants?
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 02:02:59 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Licht hired Lovie Smith and fired him within two years but sure let's trust his judgment on whether the very model of a modern major mediocre offensive coordinator is their best bet for head coach just because a kid who has never had another NFL offensive coordinator think he's the best one evar.
I defer to the Lord High Executioner.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: Bort on January 07, 2016, 01:48:59 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 07, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Fuck off. I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit. I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game.
Pen is just trolling until he gets his beloved Dead Pool post.
I do seriously love that post.
Can I repick my Deadpool choices?
1. Dirk Koetter
2. Jameis Winston
3. Lovie Smith
4 Adam Gase
5. Emilio Bonifacio
6. Carlos Rodon
7. Josh McDaniels
8. Phil Emery
9. John Fox
10. PenFoe
Quote from: Brownie on January 07, 2016, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: Bort on January 07, 2016, 01:48:59 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 07, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 07, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)
Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.
You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.
Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.
I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.
I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.
Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.
Fuck off. I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit. I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game.
Pen is just trolling until he gets his beloved Dead Pool post.
I do seriously love that post.
Can I repick my Deadpool choices?
1. Dirk Koetter
2. Jameis Winston
3. Lovie Smith
4 Adam Gase
5. Emilio Bonifacio
6. Carlos Rodon
7. Josh McDaniels
8. Phil Emery
9. John Fox
10. PenFoe
My thumbs hurt from sticking up so hard at this post.