I just received a nice letter from Crane...
He would like to earn my loyalty with a 16.9% increase in the price of my season tickets.
Apparently I'm not part of the 33% of inventory that had prices frozen.
Coincidentally, by the end of '08 the firm I work for will have fired about 33% of its employees.
I'm not expecting sympathy about this stuff and some will even find it amusing.
BUT I'M REALLY PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW.
Like MikeD ANGRY.
(Apologies this won't fit in one post so continued in the next)
Thank you for your record-breaking support in 2008. With more than 3.3 million tickets sold, more people
attended Cubs games in 2008 than ever in our organization's history. You saw the most home wins (55) by
any Cub team in 73 years, the first back-to-back post-season appearances in 100 years, eight National
League All-Stars, the N.L. Rookie of the Year and N.L. Manager of the Year. In years past, this would
qualify as a very successful season.
But times have changed. Because of the physical, emotional and financial investment by our fans, players,
coaches and front office, regular season success is no longer enough. We know that without success in the
regular season we wouldn't have the opportunity to win a World Championship. But just as clearly, our
playoff performance has not measured up to our expectations or yours. We are committed to finishing the
job and welcome raised expectations. In many ways, our level of disappointment following a 97-win
season shows we are pointed in the right direction.
Our on-field improvement didn't happen by accident—it is the result of significant investment in the
organization. Our 2008 payroll was the second highest in the National League and is $50 million higher
than in 2003. It will increase again next year. Our investment in both the domestic amateur draft and
international signings, as well as upgrades to our coaching, scouting and player development areas, have
led to the rise of home-grown talent, such as Geovany Soto, Carlos Marmol, Ryan Theriot and Jeff
Samardzjia.
Without the benefit of public funding like most teams in our sport, we have also made sizable investments
in Wrigley Field. In 2008, we competed on a new $1.6 million playing surface and invested more than $3
million in capital projects to maintain Wrigley Field and improve fan amenities. In 2009, we will focus on
renovations to some of our public spaces, such as the Friendly Confines Café.
Recognizing the dire state of the economy, we looked at every possible avenue to avoid raising ticket prices
for 2009. We are evaluating new marketing programs, like the Bud Light Bleachers, that weave corporate
sponsorship into the ballpark without changing the fundamental character of Wrigley Field. We are
planning to add new media opportunities and will continue utilizing the ballpark on non-game days, with
events like the NHL Winter Classic, the Road to Wrigley minor league game, Wrigley Field tours and
concerts.
Despite these new initiatives, we are increasing ticket prices in 2009 for our highest quality seats. Overall,
we've frozen ticket prices for 33% of our inventory, keeping some of our most affordable inventory flat
with 2008 prices. But because our best seats are sold to our season ticket holders, you will see an increase
over 2008. We hoped to hold the line on all of your seats, as we did in 2007, but it was not possible
without hurting the competitiveness of the team or the maintenance of our 94-year old ballpark.
The biggest change for 2009 is the creation of a fourth category of dates -- the platinum games --that
encompass 14 games against some of our most popular opponents. Historically, these 14 games are the
most actively traded on Stub-Hub and other secondary market sites. Excluding the 14 platinum games,
average ticket prices for 2009 are up 6%...
I hope you have had a chance to visit the new Web site constructed for season ticket holders at
www.cubs.com\sth. The creation of this Web site results from input we received at our "Tell it to the
Cubs" lunches held during the 2008 season for season ticket holders. We will again host these lunch
forums in 2009 to get your feedback on our performance and to identify ways to improve your experience
at Wrigley Field.
In the meantime, please use the new Web site to learn about promotions reserved for season ticket holders,
such as the availability of tickets for the NHL Winter Classic, Cubs spring training games, concerts and our
recently announced exhibition games that will open new Yankee Stadium on April 3 and 4.
We hope you will continue your support of Cubs baseball by renewing your season tickets for 2009. To do
so, please return the enclosed renewal form to us by mail or fax on or before December 19, 2008, or send
us an e-mail at cubsseasontickets@cubs.com stating you intend to renew. A deposit is not required at this
time but payment is due in full by January 19, 2009.
To retain your seats, it is imperative we hear from you by December 19.
Please also provide your updated email address to us at cubsseasontickets@cubs.com. Your email address
is the most efficient way to communicate with you regarding Cubs news and in-season updates, including
changes in game times.
Once again, thank you for supporting the Chicago Cubs. We appreciate you sticking with us and are
committed to earning your loyalty in everything we do. Please do not hesitate to contact the Ticket Office
at 773-404-CUBS if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Crane Kenney
Chairman
ooooh... Platinum Games... those are going to be so much more special.
Why the hell would the freeze prices on a third of all tickets? Aren't they just bought up at face value and resold for great profit?
I echo these sentiments. Kenney can go fuck himself. My tickets for the platinum games jumped from $46 last year to $56 this year. We're getting into Fenway territory here.
Quote from: flannj on December 05, 2008, 07:25:44 PM
I hope you have had a chance to visit the new Web site constructed for season ticket holders at
www.cubs.com\sth. The creation of this Web site results from input we received at our "Tell it to the
Cubs" lunches held during the 2008 season for season ticket holders. We will again host these lunch
forums in 2009 to get your feedback on our performance and to identify ways to improve your experience
at Wrigley Field.
In the meantime, please use the new Web site to learn about promotions reserved for season ticket holders,
such as the availability of tickets for the NHL Winter Classic, Cubs spring training games, concerts and our
recently announced exhibition games that will open new Yankee Stadium on April 3 and 4.
We hope you will continue your support of Cubs baseball by renewing your season tickets for 2009. To do
so, please return the enclosed renewal form to us by mail or fax on or before December 19, 2008, or send
us an e-mail at cubsseasontickets@cubs.com stating you intend to renew. A deposit is not required at this
time but payment is due in full by January 19, 2009.
To retain your seats, it is imperative we hear from you by December 19.
Please also provide your updated email address to us at cubsseasontickets@cubs.com. Your email address
is the most efficient way to communicate with you regarding Cubs news and in-season updates, including
changes in game times.
Once again, thank you for supporting the Chicago Cubs. We appreciate you sticking with us and are
committed to earning your loyalty in everything we do. Please do not hesitate to contact the Ticket Office
at 773-404-CUBS if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Crane Kenney
Chairman
ooooh... Platinum Games... those are going to be so much more special.
Hey, those games are the only ones crane comes out in full regalia
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/Halman/Cubs/MagicCrane.jpg)
Quote from: MidgetSellingWater on December 05, 2008, 09:13:52 PM
I echo these sentiments. Kenney Adam Smith and the law of supply and demand can go fuck himself themselves. My tickets for the platinum games jumped from $46 last year to $56 this year. We're getting into Fenway territory here.
Pro-America'd
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 05, 2008, 10:08:36 PM
Quote from: MidgetSellingWater on December 05, 2008, 09:13:52 PM
I echo these sentiments. Kenney Adam Smith and the law of supply and demand can go fuck himself themselves. My tickets for the platinum games jumped from $46 last year to $56 this year. We're getting into Fenway territory here.
Pro-America'dI'm not expecting sympathy about this stuff and some will even find it amusing.
Like I said'd
It's going to be a hard year for professional sports franchises. Even the Cubs. Raising ticket prices is probably the worst things most franchises can do. Unfortunately, I don't think demand for Cubs tickets will be affected.
Quote from: TJ on December 06, 2008, 09:01:07 AM
It's going to be a hard year for professional sports franchises. Even the Cubs. Raising ticket prices is probably the worst things most franchises can do. Unfortunately, I don't think demand for Cubs tickets will be affected.
At some point, maybe this season, people's priorities will shift. However, there wil be some who won't mind, they'll just get the limit on their Visa card bumped up.
Quote from: flannj on December 05, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
We hoped to hold the line on all of your seats, as we did in 2007, but it was not possible without hurting the competitiveness of the team or the maintenance of our 94-year old ballpark.
They're totally going to be hanging their hat on that 2007 ticket price freeze for the next 50 years, aren't they?
Quote from: flannj on December 05, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
Excluding the 14 platinum games, average ticket prices for 2009 are up 6%.
Well, when you put it that way...
Relatedly, if you exclude the 9524 games they've lost, the Cubs are a perfect 10082 and 0 in franchise history.
QuoteWithout the benefit of public funding like most teams in our sport, we have also made sizable investments in Wrigley Field.
Boo fucking hoo.
Quote from: flannj on December 05, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
We hoped to hold the line on all of your seats, as we did in 2007, but it was not possible without hurting the competitiveness of the team or the maintenance of our 94-year old ballpark.
C'mon guys, part of this ticket increase is going to maintain beautiful Wrigley Field. Al Yellon is okay with it, you should be too.
Plus I'm sure they need the funds for that parking garage that MacPhail promised would be built in exchange for the bleacher expansion project.
Right?
Quote from: CT II on December 06, 2008, 10:55:52 AM
Quote from: flannj on December 05, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
We hoped to hold the line on all of your seats, as we did in 2007, but it was not possible without hurting the competitiveness of the team or the maintenance of our 94-year old ballpark.
C'mon guys, part of this ticket increase is going to maintain beautiful Wrigley Field. Al Yellon is okay with it, you should be too.
Plus I'm sure they need the funds for that parking garage that MacPhail promised would be built in exchange for the bleacher expansion project.
Right?
I'm already laughing in anticipation of what the cue ball will be paying in 2009 to sit 400+ feet from the pitchers mound.
Quote from: RV on December 06, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
QuoteWithout the benefit of public funding like most teams in our sport, we have also made sizable investments in Wrigley Field.
Boo fucking hoo.
As far as I'm concerned, fuck it. Get the state and city funds. Build a new ballpark.
Turn Wrigley into a Cubs museum/tournament park and give it to the Chicago park district in exchange for new land. All the new seats you gain are worth more than the land was, anyway. They could even play the home series against the Sox there every year. People would probably pay double for those tickets. Build the new stadium right on the lakefront. Make the park district give up a piece of that golf course just north of Lincoln park. It's not like people won't have plenty of golf courses to go to when it's gone or reduced. Sell the naming rights to the highest bidder for all I care. Just make sure there's ample parking. I'm sure it will be for the $20 it'll cost.
Quote from: De Jesus on December 06, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: RV on December 06, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
QuoteWithout the benefit of public funding like most teams in our sport, we have also made sizable investments in Wrigley Field.
Boo fucking hoo.
As far as I'm concerned, fuck it. Get the state and city funds. Build a new ballpark.
Turn Wrigley into a Cubs museum/tournament park and give it to the Chicago park district in exchange for new land. All the new seats you gain are worth more than the land was, anyway. They could even play the home series against the Sox there every year. People would probably pay double for those tickets. Build the new stadium right on the lakefront. Make the park district give up a piece of that golf course just north of Lincoln park. It's not like people won't have plenty of golf courses to go to when it's gone or reduced. Sell the naming rights to the highest bidder for all I care. Just make sure there's ample parking. I'm sure it will be for the $20 it'll cost.
Parking is overrated. I don't care what happens to Wrigley, but don't make me go to a mallpark surrounded by a sea of asphalt.
Quote from: butthead on December 06, 2008, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: De Jesus on December 06, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: RV on December 06, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
QuoteWithout the benefit of public funding like most teams in our sport, we have also made sizable investments in Wrigley Field.
Boo fucking hoo.
As far as I'm concerned, fuck it. Get the state and city funds. Build a new ballpark.
Turn Wrigley into a Cubs museum/tournament park and give it to the Chicago park district in exchange for new land. All the new seats you gain are worth more than the land was, anyway. They could even play the home series against the Sox there every year. People would probably pay double for those tickets. Build the new stadium right on the lakefront. Make the park district give up a piece of that golf course just north of Lincoln park. It's not like people won't have plenty of golf courses to go to when it's gone or reduced. Sell the naming rights to the highest bidder for all I care. Just make sure there's ample parking. I'm sure it will be for the $20 it'll cost.
Parking is overrated. I don't care what happens to Wrigley, but don't make me go to a mallpark surrounded by a sea of asphalt.
Hear, hear.
Quote from: butthead on December 06, 2008, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: De Jesus on December 06, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: RV on December 06, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
QuoteWithout the benefit of public funding like most teams in our sport, we have also made sizable investments in Wrigley Field.
Boo fucking hoo.
As far as I'm concerned, fuck it. Get the state and city funds. Build a new ballpark.
Turn Wrigley into a Cubs museum/tournament park and give it to the Chicago park district in exchange for new land. All the new seats you gain are worth more than the land was, anyway. They could even play the home series against the Sox there every year. People would probably pay double for those tickets. Build the new stadium right on the lakefront. Make the park district give up a piece of that golf course just north of Lincoln park. It's not like people won't have plenty of golf courses to go to when it's gone or reduced. Sell the naming rights to the highest bidder for all I care. Just make sure there's ample parking. I'm sure it will be for the $20 it'll cost.
Parking is overrated. I don't care what happens to Wrigley, but don't make me go to a mallpark surrounded by a sea of asphalt.
If they build it on that golf course, even if they surround it with asphalt, it's only half a mile away from the old one. Some people walk that far to park their car now. You can still hang out in Wrigleyville before and after the game.
Yeah, let's spend some more of Illinois taxpayers' money. Oh, and I'm sure they'll be able to easily take the land from Marovitz Golf Course and put a stadium out there that is for all intensive purposes private property.
That'll go through without a word from Friends of the Parks, or the people who play golf there, or the residents in the high rises on LSD who don't want to look at the stadium, or the downstate pols who might think the state spending money on another stadium in Chicago is misguided, or the South Side pols whose constituents won't feel too keen on funding anything for the Cubs, or the fiscal conservatives, or the liberals who want to build up social services, or the the realists who might not be opposed to building this but also realize that THE STATE IS BROKE and THE CITY IS ALREADY COMMITTED TO SPENDING BILLIONS ON THE OLYMPICS.
Otherwise, this all sounds great.
Quote from: De Jesus on December 07, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: butthead on December 06, 2008, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: De Jesus on December 06, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: RV on December 06, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
QuoteWithout the benefit of public funding like most teams in our sport, we have also made sizable investments in Wrigley Field.
Boo fucking hoo.
As far as I'm concerned, fuck it. Get the state and city funds. Build a new ballpark.
Turn Wrigley into a Cubs museum/tournament park and give it to the Chicago park district in exchange for new land. All the new seats you gain are worth more than the land was, anyway. They could even play the home series against the Sox there every year. People would probably pay double for those tickets. Build the new stadium right on the lakefront. Make the park district give up a piece of that golf course just north of Lincoln park. It's not like people won't have plenty of golf courses to go to when it's gone or reduced. Sell the naming rights to the highest bidder for all I care. Just make sure there's ample parking. I'm sure it will be for the $20 it'll cost.
Parking is overrated. I don't care what happens to Wrigley, but don't make me go to a mallpark surrounded by a sea of asphalt.
If they build it on that golf course, even if they surround it with asphalt, it's only half a mile away from the old one. Some people walk that far to park their car now. You can still hang out in Wrigleyville before and after the game.
I don't hang out in Wrigleyville much now, so that's not my issue. I just hate parking lots and love urban ballparks. Parking lots ruin the city. This book sums is up nicely. (http://www.amazon.com/Baseball-Magic-Plain-Uncommon-Sense-Cities/dp/0967398606)
Quote from: TJ on December 07, 2008, 02:14:23 PM
intensive purposes
How intense are these purposes?
Quote from: butthead on December 07, 2008, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: De Jesus on December 07, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: butthead on December 06, 2008, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: De Jesus on December 06, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: RV on December 06, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
QuoteWithout the benefit of public funding like most teams in our sport, we have also made sizable investments in Wrigley Field.
Boo fucking hoo.
As far as I'm concerned, fuck it. Get the state and city funds. Build a new ballpark.
Turn Wrigley into a Cubs museum/tournament park and give it to the Chicago park district in exchange for new land. All the new seats you gain are worth more than the land was, anyway. They could even play the home series against the Sox there every year. People would probably pay double for those tickets. Build the new stadium right on the lakefront. Make the park district give up a piece of that golf course just north of Lincoln park. It's not like people won't have plenty of golf courses to go to when it's gone or reduced. Sell the naming rights to the highest bidder for all I care. Just make sure there's ample parking. I'm sure it will be for the $20 it'll cost.
Parking is overrated. I don't care what happens to Wrigley, but don't make me go to a mallpark surrounded by a sea of asphalt.
If they build it on that golf course, even if they surround it with asphalt, it's only half a mile away from the old one. Some people walk that far to park their car now. You can still hang out in Wrigleyville before and after the game.
I don't hang out in Wrigleyville much now, so that's not my issue. I just hate parking lots and love urban ballparks. Parking lots ruin the city. This book sums is up nicely. (http://www.amazon.com/Baseball-Magic-Plain-Uncommon-Sense-Cities/dp/0967398606)
Wha? You should drive a tow truck. You're missing your true calling.
I have always sort of thought they would just replace Wrigley piece by piece until there is very little old ballpark left. The Bleacher renovation is a perfect microcosm for how the park should be treated: They kept the bricks, ivy, and scoreboard and gutted everything else for replacement.
Building a new ballpark is a piece of fucking cake.
Get those imbeciles who are paying the Cubs for engraved pavers to have their names ingraved on the bricks that will go into building the new park. Considering a paver costs a buck, maybe two with the engraving, and the Cubs are charging $175 a pop (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/fan_forum/brick_paver_form.jsp), they're pulling in a pretty tidy sum.
Shit, you can probably get the Yellons of the world to pony up a shutload to have their names painted in "their" seats.
Just got my nice letter from Crane again.
And I'll preface this with the same comment as last year, "I'm not expecting sympathy about this stuff and some will even find it amusing." So yes Chuck, I understand the concept of supply and demand.
After my season ticket prices jumped 16.9% last year, that eyes too close together fucker made apologies to the fans and responded to the media by saying that the price increase had been set before the economy tanked and that the Cubs were sorry and they realized this would be a hardship for many people given the difficult times and blah... blah... blah.
So of course to support that apology they raised my ticket prices another 12.6% for 2010.
Crane's letter makes it all better though:
RUDY JARAMILLO!
(It's long so I'll have to use multiple posts.)
Thank you for your tremendous support of the Chicago Cubs as we embark on a new era under the Ricketts
family ownership. As I have done in the past, this letter will cover a number of topics, including our 2010
ticket pricing, the process for renewing your season tickets and a seat relocation option made available for
the first time ever.
New Ownership
On October 27, 2009, the Ricketts family became the eighth owners in the 133-year history of the Chicago
Cubs. They are the first family owners in 30 years and have taken control of the organization with a clear
mission: win a World Championship for the most deserving fans in sports. Already, the benefits of new
ownership can be seen in the form of capital commitments to Wrigley Field (described later), hiring top
management talent such as Rudy Jaramillo, increasing resources for player development and new programs
to improve your experience at the Friendly Confines.
Tom Ricketts and his family grew up as Cubs fans and they know what it means to be dedicated to the team
and our beloved ballpark. Importantly, they are putting their resources to work to improve both. The
family has committed all profits from the team will be reinvested in the ballclub, our player development
system and Wrigley Field for the foreseeable future. As a result, your support of Cubs baseball will
directly impact the quality of the ballclub and the condition of Wrigley Field more than ever.
Team Performance
Coming off of our 97 win performance in 2008, we expected 2009 to be an even better year. On Opening
Day, we fielded a team with eight All Stars from the previous year, the 2008 Rookie of the Year and the
2008 Manager of the Year. Like you and almost every member of the media, we expected to win the
National League Central division for a third consecutive year and play for a World Championship in
October.
We did not reach our goals however and finished with a disappointing record of 83-78. Not long ago, there
might have been some comfort in playing above .500 and finishing in second place. Those days are over.
Success will only be defined by winning a championship and we are committed to finishing the job.
There were bright spots in 2009. The pitching staff put together a solid year, led by our starters who
produced 94 quality starts—the second highest total in the NL. The bullpen ranked second in the NL in
opponents' batting average and fifth in save percentage. Rookie Randy Wells paced the team with 12 wins
and a 3.05 ERA. Offensively, Derrek Lee had a tremendous year, finishing with 35 home runs, 36 doubles
and 111 RBI.
The work has begun to improve the ballclub for 2010 and we expect to return to the playoffs next year.
Since Lou Piniella took over in 2007, our overall record of 265-219 ranks second in the National League
(only Philadelphia has been better). Our home record of 145-97 is best among all NL teams during that
three year span.
Wrigley Field Improvements
With the support of the Ricketts family, we are investing substantially this off season to improve Wrigley
Field. Our concession operations are being reviewed and you will see new product choices and new points
of sale in 2010. A new club will open on the left –field side of the mezzanine suite level and the Captain
Morgan's Club will be reconfigured to provide more sheltered seating and additional outdoor space.
Much-needed expansion plans are underway for both our men's and women's washrooms and many of
those that are not being expanded will be remodeled. Our historic scoreboard, long in need of restoration, is
being refaced to improve its appearance. We are also replacing and adding televisions to improve viewing
throughout the ballpark.
As important as our immediate projects, we are moving forward with a number of long range projects that
will substantially improve the Wrigley experience, including the construction of a multi-purpose facility
west of the ballpark and a more generous renovation of suites.
Season Ticket Location Upgrades
One of the requests we hear most often from our season ticket holders is for improvement of your seating
location. For 2010, we are creating 700 new season ticket locations which will first be offered to season
ticket holders to consider for relocation purposes. These seats include club boxes formerly held by Tribune
Company and seats that were unallocated following our various seating expansions.
The relocation process is detailed in the enclosed fact sheet so please review this information before calling
your season ticket representative. Unfortunately, we will not be allowing for an increase in the number of
your season tickets, as the 120,000 people on the season ticket waiting list will be provided access to your
vacated seats after the relocation program concludes.
Season Ticket Pricing
For 2010, prices are essentially unchanged for 50% of our tickets. This follows holding ticket prices
unchanged for 33% of our inventory in 2008. For 2010, we did raise ticket prices in our most desired
locations however and because those locations are reserved for our season ticket holders, it is likely you
will see an increase.
We understand price increases are unpopular and we will continue pursuing other revenues to finance our
operations, including appropriate marketing sponsorships, new media offerings, Wrigley Field tours, other
sporting events and concerts. We are also supportive of your use of Stub Hub to underwrite your season
ticket purchases and know up to 25% of our ticket inventory traded via Stub Hub for certain games last
year, at prices that were a multiple of face value.
As the amusement taxes you pay have increased over time, including again for 2010, we have broken out
the amusement tax portion of your season ticket invoice so you know where your resources are going.
Season Ticket Holder Amenities
We hope you have taken advantage of the season ticket holder Web site (www.cubs.com/sth), which was
constructed last year at the suggestion of season ticket holders attending one of our Tell it To the Cubs
luncheons. Our meetings with you at those luncheons have been invaluable to our efforts to improve your
experience at Wrigley Field. They will continue in 2010 and we hope you will consider attending.
Last year, season ticket holders used the Web site to access tickets for the NHL Winter Classic, Cubs
spring training games, concerts and our exhibition games in new Yankee Stadium. We will continue
providing you with early access to all of our special events in 2010.
Renewal Process
We hope you will continue your support of Cubs baseball by renewing your season tickets for 2010. To do
so, please return the enclosed renewal form to us by mail or fax on or before December 18, 2009, or send
us an e-mail at cubsseasontickets@cubs.com stating you intend to renew. A deposit is not required at this
time but payment in full is due by January 8, 2010.
To retain your seats, it is imperative we hear from you by December 18, 2009.
Please also provide your updated email address at your convenience at cubsseasontickets@cubs.com. Your
email address is the most efficient way to communicate with you regarding Cubs news and in-season
updates, including changes in game times.
Once again, thank you for supporting the Chicago Cubs. We are committed to earning your loyalty in
everything we do. Please do not hesitate to contact your Ticket Office representative if you have any
questions.
Sincerely,
Crane Kenney
Chairman
Sorry we sucked last year, but we're painting the scoreboard, we're going to bring the stadium into the 20th century (never mind getting it to the 21st), we plan to clean the bathrooms twice a season and...Rudy Jaramillo!
And only the Phillies have won more games than us in the last three years (plus they won 20 playoff games, a pennant and a World Series) in that span while we won 0, none and none.
So please feel free to pay us more!
I also understand why tickets get priced the way they do, you just wish they had the balls to explain it that way.
Dear Season Ticket Holder,
We can charge more for your seats, so we're going to and if you want to keep them you'll have to pay the new price--because we know somebody will.
Love,
Crane
Fuck you for thinking it's your place to comment on baseball issues, you corporate buttstain.
Quote"And eat $21 million?'' club president Crane Kenney said. "I've got 21 million reasons why we're not releasing him. If there's any prospect we can get back players who can help us, or save some of the money [to do other things with], why wouldn't we explore that? ... We don't have an unlimited budget.''
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/12/cubs-have-no-plans-to-release-bradley.html
Crane has a grasp on this. Trade Milton to a team for a prospect and only pay $20.9 of the $21 owed to him.
The man has a big job for a reason!
The front office continues its heroic dedication to winning despite long odds forcing a we're-totally-sorry-guys increase in ticket prices. The Colts won a Super Bowl recently, can't remember who they beat, but anyway they're threatening for another this year. As Muskrat informs us, the Cubs now know the secret to winning the Super Bowl...of baseball.
Quote* Scouting director Tim Wilken and scout Paul Weaver both toured the Indianapolis Colts' facility on Wednesday to look at their scouting and player evaluation techniques.
Crane Kenney's a cockroach. He will outlive us all, somehow, sadly. How this boarding school twit can feel comfortable speaking about Bradley's situation is another reminder of how disgusted I am at this organization. Why would ysomeone like Ricketts buy this thing and not bring in some of his own people? I could see if Kenney was a unique value to the organization, but he's clearly not. Does he just have pictures of everybody, including the Beav?
Quote from: MAD on December 10, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
Crane Kenney's a cockroach. He will outlive us all, somehow, sadly. How this boarding school twit can feel comfortable speaking about Bradley's situation is another reminder of how disgusted I am at this organization. Why would ysomeone like Ricketts buy this thing and not bring in some of his own people? I could see if Kenney was a unique value to the organization, but he's clearly not. Does he just have pictures of everybody, including the Beav?
I think this is exactly it. The Ricketts raised ticket prices and we have bumped a thread blasting Crane Fucking Kenney. It's pretty smart if you ask me.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 08:22:20 AM
Quote from: MAD on December 10, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
Crane Kenney's a cockroach. He will outlive us all, somehow, sadly. How this boarding school twit can feel comfortable speaking about Bradley's situation is another reminder of how disgusted I am at this organization. Why would ysomeone like Ricketts buy this thing and not bring in some of his own people? I could see if Kenney was a unique value to the organization, but he's clearly not. Does he just have pictures of everybody, including the Beav?
I think this is exactly it. The Ricketts raised ticket prices and we have bumped a thread blasting Crane Fucking Kenney. It's pretty smart if you ask me.
I agree. It's a pretty good way to start the process of getting Kenney fired.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on December 10, 2009, 11:13:35 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 08:22:20 AM
Quote from: MAD on December 10, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
Crane Kenney's a cockroach. He will outlive us all, somehow, sadly. How this boarding school twit can feel comfortable speaking about Bradley's situation is another reminder of how disgusted I am at this organization. Why would ysomeone like Ricketts buy this thing and not bring in some of his own people? I could see if Kenney was a unique value to the organization, but he's clearly not. Does he just have pictures of everybody, including the Beav?
I think this is exactly it. The Ricketts raised ticket prices and we have bumped a thread blasting Crane Fucking Kenney. It's pretty smart if you ask me.
I agree. It's a pretty good way to start the process of getting Kenney fired.
Ricketts was pretty clear that they were going to take a year to evaluate all the shitbirds in this organization. Firing the king of the shitbirds immediately seems like a no-brainer, but I'm going to be a naive moron about this and give Tom and the gang that year before I fire up the hatemobile.
Quote from: R-V on December 10, 2009, 11:22:46 AM
Ricketts was pretty clear that they were going to take a year to evaluate all the shitbirds in this organization. Firing the king of the shitbirds immediately seems like a no-brainer, but I'm going to be a naive moron about this and give Tom and the gang that year before I fire up the hatemobile.
They've got a lot of shitty contracts to eat. Kenney and Hendry, included in that.
There's really no reason to fire Kenney right now. Let him finish the legal on the Triangle building. There's no one else up to speed on that.
But to allow that fuck to walk around in Indianapolis is very Trib-esque. Kenney fancies himself as a modern Stanton Cook?
I just received this e-mail notice:
"Dear Season Ticket Holders:
The Chicago Cubs and the State of Illinois are pleased to announce the design of the new Cubs license plate. A sample of the design and information about obtaining the plates is included in this email.
As a valued season ticket holder you have the option to purchase your license plate before the general public. These license plates are now available for purchase.
Each personalized license plate can have up to five letters or numbers. If you would like to learn more about how to request a Chicago Cubs license plate, please click on the link below.
Thank you,
The Chicago Cubs"
I chose this one...
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1084/screenshot20110126at331.png)
I'm surprised it was available.
Quote from: flannj on January 26, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
I just received this e-mail notice:
"Dear Season Ticket Holders:
The Chicago Cubs and the State of Illinois are pleased to announce the design of the new Cubs license plate. A sample of the design and information about obtaining the plates is included in this email.
As a valued season ticket holder you have the option to purchase your license plate before the general public. These license plates are now available for purchase.
Each personalized license plate can have up to five letters or numbers. If you would like to learn more about how to request a Chicago Cubs license plate, please click on the link below.
Thank you,
The Chicago Cubs"
I chose this one...
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1084/screenshot20110126at331.png)
I'm surprised it was available.
God damn. You're awesome.
Quote from: flannj on December 05, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
Our investment in both the domestic amateur draft and international signings, as well as upgrades to our coaching, scouting and player development areas, have led to the rise of home-grown talent, such as... Ryan Theriot and Jeff Samardzjia.
2008 anger: still going strong in 2011.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 26, 2011, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: flannj on December 05, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
Our investment in both the domestic amateur draft and international signings, as well as upgrades to our coaching, scouting and player development areas, have led to the rise of home-grown talent, such as... Ryan Theriot and Jeff Samardzjia.
2008 anger: still going strong in 2011.
[eye twitches uncontrollably]
For all of you that don't get the Crane Kenney hate.
Did you witness the 7th inning stretch tonight?
Chip Carey wearing those stupid over sized Harry glasses and singing like he never left?
I don't care if it's Wally Hayward or some other Ricketts toady that was responsible.
That was fucked.
Quote from: flannj on August 24, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
For all of you that don't get the Crane Kenney hate.
Did you witness the 7th inning stretch tonight?
Chip Carey wearing those stupid over sized Harry glasses and singing like he never left?
I don't care if it's Wally Hayward or some other Ricketts toady that was responsible.
That was fucked.
Sickening. I can't believe that just happened. It's proof positive that the Cubs have no idea how their fan base feels about certain people. Of course, the fan base also hates the goddamn celebrity conductor bullshit and they just keep trotting that out 81 times a year.
I give up.
Quote from: Slaky on August 24, 2011, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 24, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
For all of you that don't get the Crane Kenney hate.
Did you witness the 7th inning stretch tonight?
Chip Carey wearing those stupid over sized Harry glasses and singing like he never left?
I don't care if it's Wally Hayward or some other Ricketts toady that was responsible.
That was fucked.
Sickening. I can't believe that just happened. It's proof positive that the Cubs have no idea how their fan base feels about certain people. Of course, the fan base also hates the goddamn celebrity conductor bullshit and they just keep trotting that out 81 times a year.
I give up.
Es verdad.
Flannj, MikeD, anyone: Care to share the e-mail that Sully says was sent to season ticket holders demanding 10% down by Nov. 12?
Quote from: Brownie on October 03, 2012, 09:46:52 AM
Flannj, MikeD, anyone: Care to share the e-mail that Sully says was sent to season ticket holders demanding 10% down by Nov. 12?
QuoteSubject: Thank you for your support as a Chicago Cubs Season Ticket Holder this season
CUBS TICKET HOLDER NEWS - October 2, 2012
Dear Sucker,
Thank you for your tremendous support as a Chicago Cubs Season Ticket Holder this season.
As this season comes to a close and we prepare for Cubs Baseball in 2013, we'd like to provide some important upcoming dates.
After receiving tremendous positive feedback on our first ever in-person Season Ticket Holder Relocation Event at Wrigley Field, we will host the event again, during the final week of November. The relocation event will allow you to come to Wrigley Field at an assigned time based on your account tenure and personally view seats available for relocation. While our inventory is extremely limited, and you may not find seats available for an upgrade, we want to again provide this benefit to our most loyal customers.
In order to successfully execute this relocation process and identify seats available for relocation, all Season Ticket Holders must indicate their intention to renew for 2013 with a first payment of 10 percent by November 12. Seats that are not renewed with a 10 percent payment by November 12 will be made available for other renewing Season Ticket Holders at the relocation events. Following the relocation events, we will make remaining inventory available to members of our Season Ticket Holder Waiting List. You'll receive detailed information about the relocation event, including your assigned appointment time, with your invoice in mid-October.
The following are important dates to mark on your calendar (subject to change):
October 16 - Season Ticket invoices sent
November 12 - 10% Season Ticket payment due
November 27 - December 1 - Season Ticket Holder Relocation and Upgrade Events at Wrigley Field
January 15 - Season Ticket Holder full payment deadline
January 18-20 - 28th Annual Chicago Cubs Convention at the Sheraton Chicago Hotel and Towers
Second week of March - Season Tickets shipped
March 8 - Single Game Tickets for 2013 Season go on sale to the public (Season Ticket Holders will have a pre-sale opportunity)
April 8 - Opening Day at Wrigley Field
June 14-15 - Season Ticket Holder Family Days at Wrigley Field
Major League Baseball has released the 2013 schedule, and while times have yet to be announced, we are looking forward to more Interleague Play, which includes visits from the Texas Rangers and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, and our always-exciting matchups with the Chicago White Sox and St. Louis Cardinals. You can view the 2013 schedule now at Cubs.com.
You will receive more detailed information about the 2013 season with your Season Ticket Renewal Invoice in mid-October. If you have questions in the meantime, please contact your Season Ticket Account Representative.
Thank you for your support and feedback this season. We look forward to seeing you again in 2013.
Sincerely,
Colin Faulkner
Vice President, Ticket Sales & Service
Chicago Cubs Baseball Club
Nice how they use the "relocation offer" to suggest that everyone needs to get their 2013 money in right away (so we can get better seats).
Quote from: flannj on January 26, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
I just received this e-mail notice:
"Dear Season Ticket Holders:
The Chicago Cubs and the State of Illinois are pleased to announce the design of the new Cubs license plate. A sample of the design and information about obtaining the plates is included in this email.
As a valued season ticket holder you have the option to purchase your license plate before the general public. These license plates are now available for purchase.
Each personalized license plate can have up to five letters or numbers. If you would like to learn more about how to request a Chicago Cubs license plate, please click on the link below.
Thank you,
The Chicago Cubs"
I chose this one...
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1084/screenshot20110126at331.png)
I'm surprised it was available.
I had to re-post this on Facebook (due credit was given). Thank you.
I must have been a complete monster in a previous life. (http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/24453/crane-kenney-agrees-to-five-year-extension)
Because that is the only answer I have for this continued punishment.
I apologize to you all.
Really? For fucks sake, 21 years?
I'm not saying I disagree. But can you remind me again why we hate Crane so much?
Quote from: InternetApex on June 01, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
I'm not saying I disagree. But can you remind me again why we hate Crane so much?
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6476.msg245337#msg245337 (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6476.msg245337#msg245337)
Quote from: flannj on June 01, 2014, 02:47:19 PM
I must have been a complete monster in a previous life. (http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/24453/crane-kenney-agrees-to-five-year-extension)
Because that is the only answer I have for this continued punishment.
I apologize to you all.
Really? For fucks sake, 21 years?
Just curious: Did you go through with getting the Cubs vanity plate AWFUL? I hope so.
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
From this (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-31/sports/chi-crane-kenney-gets-extension-20140531_1_chairman-tom-ricketts-player-personnel-oneri-fleita-5-year-contract-extension), here are some. It was rumored he also gave Soriano an 8 year deal, overruling Hendry who wanted 5 years.
"But there have also been several missteps along the way, including the failed proposal in 2010 to add an 8 percent surcharge to tickets at every spring training ballpark in Arizona to help fund a new facility for the Cubs. White Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf led a coalition of 14 Cactus League teams which successfully lobbied to the Arizona legislature to shelve the proposal.
During Kenney's brief term in charge of the front office at the end of 2011, when general manager Jim Hendry was fired and Ricketts decided not to hire an interim GM, he handed vice president of player personnel Oneri Fleita a four-year extension. The move shocked most observers, knowing any new GM the Cubs hired would likely bring in his own player personnel director."
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
From this (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-31/sports/chi-crane-kenney-gets-extension-20140531_1_chairman-tom-ricketts-player-personnel-oneri-fleita-5-year-contract-extension), here are some. It was rumored he also gave Soriano an 8 year deal, overruling Hendry who wanted 5 years.
"But there have also been several missteps along the way, including the failed proposal in 2010 to add an 8 percent surcharge to tickets at every spring training ballpark in Arizona to help fund a new facility for the Cubs. White Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf led a coalition of 14 Cactus League teams which successfully lobbied to the Arizona legislature to shelve the proposal.
During Kenney's brief term in charge of the front office at the end of 2011, when general manager Jim Hendry was fired and Ricketts decided not to hire an interim GM, he handed vice president of player personnel Oneri Fleita a four-year extension. The move shocked most observers, knowing any new GM the Cubs hired would likely bring in his own player personnel director."
Getting warmer.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
From this (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-31/sports/chi-crane-kenney-gets-extension-20140531_1_chairman-tom-ricketts-player-personnel-oneri-fleita-5-year-contract-extension), here are some. It was rumored he also gave Soriano an 8 year deal, overruling Hendry who wanted 5 years.
"But there have also been several missteps along the way, including the failed proposal in 2010 to add an 8 percent surcharge to tickets at every spring training ballpark in Arizona to help fund a new facility for the Cubs. White Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf led a coalition of 14 Cactus League teams which successfully lobbied to the Arizona legislature to shelve the proposal.
During Kenney's brief term in charge of the front office at the end of 2011, when general manager Jim Hendry was fired and Ricketts decided not to hire an interim GM, he handed vice president of player personnel Oneri Fleita a four-year extension. The move shocked most observers, knowing any new GM the Cubs hired would likely bring in his own player personnel director."
Getting warmer.
But with Jepstink running the baseball side of the world, and the Ricketti holding the purse strings, isn't Kenney basically the Cubs' Jerry Gergich? His job, as I see it, is to stay out of the way until there's a bus they need to throw him under.
Quote from: Fork on June 02, 2014, 11:37:37 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
From this (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-31/sports/chi-crane-kenney-gets-extension-20140531_1_chairman-tom-ricketts-player-personnel-oneri-fleita-5-year-contract-extension), here are some. It was rumored he also gave Soriano an 8 year deal, overruling Hendry who wanted 5 years.
"But there have also been several missteps along the way, including the failed proposal in 2010 to add an 8 percent surcharge to tickets at every spring training ballpark in Arizona to help fund a new facility for the Cubs. White Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf led a coalition of 14 Cactus League teams which successfully lobbied to the Arizona legislature to shelve the proposal.
During Kenney's brief term in charge of the front office at the end of 2011, when general manager Jim Hendry was fired and Ricketts decided not to hire an interim GM, he handed vice president of player personnel Oneri Fleita a four-year extension. The move shocked most observers, knowing any new GM the Cubs hired would likely bring in his own player personnel director."
Getting warmer.
But with Jepstink running the baseball side of the world, and the Ricketti holding the purse strings, isn't Kenney basically the Cubs' Jerry Gergich? His job, as I see it, is to stay out of the way until there's a bus they need to throw him under.
So lock him up for 5 years while they wait for said bus?
Dumb.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
From this (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-31/sports/chi-crane-kenney-gets-extension-20140531_1_chairman-tom-ricketts-player-personnel-oneri-fleita-5-year-contract-extension), here are some. It was rumored he also gave Soriano an 8 year deal, overruling Hendry who wanted 5 years.
"But there have also been several missteps along the way, including the failed proposal in 2010 to add an 8 percent surcharge to tickets at every spring training ballpark in Arizona to help fund a new facility for the Cubs. White Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf led a coalition of 14 Cactus League teams which successfully lobbied to the Arizona legislature to shelve the proposal.
During Kenney's brief term in charge of the front office at the end of 2011, when general manager Jim Hendry was fired and Ricketts decided not to hire an interim GM, he handed vice president of player personnel Oneri Fleita a four-year extension. The move shocked most observers, knowing any new GM the Cubs hired would likely bring in his own player personnel director."
Getting warmer.
He's not John McDonough. That do anything for you?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
Quote from: CBStew on June 02, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/images/fan_forum/y2010/640x480_chc_remember.jpg)
Quote from: Brownie on June 02, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 02, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/images/fan_forum/y2010/640x480_chc_remember.jpg)
How dare them have an ad campaign that they think will draw people to games?
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2014, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 02, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 02, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/images/fan_forum/y2010/640x480_chc_remember.jpg)
How dare them have an ad campaign that they think will draw people to games?
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2014, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 02, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 02, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/images/fan_forum/y2010/640x480_chc_remember.jpg)
How dare them have an ad campaign that they think will draw people to games?
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
Christ on a bike. TJ's joke was that somebody roofied somebody. She won't remember it but he will. I actually LOL'd.
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
John Baker says fuck your no-hitters.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
John Baker says fuck your no-hitters.
Jesus, people - it was the 7th inning.
Let's not act like the 3rd game of preseason is bullshit.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2014, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 02, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 02, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/images/fan_forum/y2010/640x480_chc_remember.jpg)
How dare them have an ad campaign that they think will draw people to games?
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
Christ on a bike. TJ's joke was that somebody roofied somebody. She won't remember it but he will. I actually LOL'd.
I'm honestly surprised Yeti didn't get the joke.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 02, 2014, 02:53:41 PM
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Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/images/fan_forum/y2010/640x480_chc_remember.jpg)
How dare them have an ad campaign that they think will draw people to games?
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
Christ on a bike. TJ's joke was that somebody roofied somebody. She won't remember it but he will. I actually LOL'd.
I'm honestly surprised Yeti didn't get the joke.
Yeti was upset the kid in the pic was a boy.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 02, 2014, 12:24:46 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
From this (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-31/sports/chi-crane-kenney-gets-extension-20140531_1_chairman-tom-ricketts-player-personnel-oneri-fleita-5-year-contract-extension), here are some. It was rumored he also gave Soriano an 8 year deal, overruling Hendry who wanted 5 years.
"But there have also been several missteps along the way, including the failed proposal in 2010 to add an 8 percent surcharge to tickets at every spring training ballpark in Arizona to help fund a new facility for the Cubs. White Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf led a coalition of 14 Cactus League teams which successfully lobbied to the Arizona legislature to shelve the proposal.
During Kenney's brief term in charge of the front office at the end of 2011, when general manager Jim Hendry was fired and Ricketts decided not to hire an interim GM, he handed vice president of player personnel Oneri Fleita a four-year extension. The move shocked most observers, knowing any new GM the Cubs hired would likely bring in his own player personnel director."
Getting warmer.
He's not John McDonough. That do anything for you?
In other words, he's not an executive for a successful SPORTZ franchise?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 02, 2014, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2014, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 02, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 02, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/images/fan_forum/y2010/640x480_chc_remember.jpg)
How dare them have an ad campaign that they think will draw people to games?
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
Christ on a bike. TJ's joke was that somebody roofied somebody. She won't remember it but he will. I actually LOL'd.
I'm honestly surprised Yeti didn't get the joke.
Yeti was upset the kid in the pic was a boy.
because I glossed over the earlier parts. In other words, SHUT THE FUCK UP DONNY
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2014, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 02, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 02, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 02, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 02, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
I might be daft (ok I am) but does anyone have a handy guide to all the reasons I should hate Crane Kenney? I know the holy water shit was his idea but as dumb as it was no one actually thinks that's why they lost.
Someone help me out.
I'm lost. My long-standing ambivalence toward Crane feels right. But I'm always up for some quality asshurt if there's any to be had. Let's light this candle.
He negotiated this stupid contract with the rooftops.
Under marching orders from Sam Zell most likely. Again, not sure why I hate Crane for that.
Roofie Contract is a pre-Zell deal. Zell came in in 2007 or 2008. Roofie deal was 2004.
...so he was passing out roofies?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/images/fan_forum/y2010/640x480_chc_remember.jpg)
How dare them have an ad campaign that they think will draw people to games?
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
Christ on a bike. TJ's joke was that somebody roofied somebody. She won't remember it but he will. I actually LOL'd.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 02, 2014, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: BH on June 02, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
It'd be sad if the other team threw a no hitter and she didn't remember it.
Cubs legend John Baker says fuck your no-hitters.
Show some damn respect'd