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SKO

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #735 on: December 11, 2015, 01:25:36 PM »
Quote from: CT III on December 11, 2015, 01:22:11 PM
In a sea of tweets calling him a trader and wishing that he would suffer a debilitating injury, I enjoyed this one the most:

https://twitter.com/Stlknight25/status/675159302777253889



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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #736 on: December 11, 2015, 01:39:32 PM »
Great article about Heyward in CF: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jason-heyward-as-a-center-fielder/

Basically, he's been a +20 DRS RF, and even if he loses about 10 DRS in CF, as the average player does moving from RF to CF (and he's pretty clearly not an average player so it may not be that big a drop off, plus Wrigley's CF is the 4th smallest in baseball), his bat goes from above-average in RF to downright elite in CF, so he'd probably still be a 5 win player easily.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #737 on: December 11, 2015, 01:42:35 PM »
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 01:39:32 PM
Great article about Heyward in CF: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jason-heyward-as-a-center-fielder/

Basically, he's been a +20 DRS RF, and even if he loses about 10 DRS in CF, as the average player does moving from RF to CF (and he's pretty clearly not an average player so it may not be that big a drop off, plus Wrigley's CF is the 4th smallest in baseball), his bat goes from above-average in RF to downright elite in CF, so he'd probably still be a 5 win player easily.

So you're saying that his bat plays better in CF, in the abstract?

Wither art thou, BC?
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #738 on: December 11, 2015, 02:05:42 PM »
Jesus, when I heard they got him for less than $200mm, I assumed it was over 7 years.

$184/8 is a bargain.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #739 on: December 11, 2015, 02:08:54 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on December 11, 2015, 02:05:42 PM
Jesus, when I heard they got him for less than $200mm, I assumed it was over 7 years.

$184/8 is a bargain.

2 opt outs, apparently, first after 3 years. I'm good with it. 3 years, 69 million for Heyward is great. Their window is as open as it can get right now, take advantage.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #740 on: December 11, 2015, 02:20:27 PM »
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 02:08:54 PM
I'm good with it. 3 years, 69 million for Heyward is great.

It's also NICE.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #741 on: December 11, 2015, 02:26:28 PM »
Quote from: Eli on December 11, 2015, 02:20:27 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 02:08:54 PM
I'm good with it. 3 years, 69 million for Heyward is great.

It's also NICE.

Oh man. I have to resign from the internet in shame now that I missed that. I forgot that 69 is the sex number.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #742 on: December 11, 2015, 02:41:04 PM »
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 02:26:28 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 11, 2015, 02:20:27 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 02:08:54 PM
I'm good with it. 3 years, 69 million for Heyward is great.

It's also NICE.

Oh man. I have to resign from the internet in shame now that I missed that. I forgot that 69 is the sex number.

A big-time one.

SKO

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #743 on: December 11, 2015, 03:06:09 PM »
So opening night is in Anaheim, let's say they don't trade Soler:

LF Zobrist
1B Rizzo
3B Bryant
DH Schwarber
CF Heyward
RF Soler
SS Russell
2B Baez
C Montero

Boing.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #744 on: December 11, 2015, 03:17:36 PM »
No big deal.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #745 on: December 11, 2015, 03:18:47 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on December 11, 2015, 03:17:36 PM
No big deal.



I like the "took less to play for the Cubs" narrative but I'm also guessing the two opt outs had more to do with it than anything. Will have to see if St. Louis also offered him the chance to bolt in 3-4 years.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #746 on: December 11, 2015, 03:26:41 PM »
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 11, 2015, 03:17:36 PM
No big deal.



I like the "took less to play for the Cubs" narrative but I'm also guessing the two opt outs had more to do with it than anything. Will have to see if St. Louis also offered him the chance to bolt in 3-4 years.

I'd also guess that the 200MM offers were for 9 or 10 years.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #747 on: December 11, 2015, 03:31:27 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on December 11, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 11, 2015, 03:17:36 PM
No big deal.



I like the "took less to play for the Cubs" narrative but I'm also guessing the two opt outs had more to do with it than anything. Will have to see if St. Louis also offered him the chance to bolt in 3-4 years.

I'd also guess that the 200MM offers were for 9 or 10 years.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #748 on: December 14, 2015, 09:19:35 AM »
Get amp'd for the most creative thing since the 2004 NSBB pitching staff shirts:

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2015/12/12/9927990/welcome-cubs-jason-heyward-hey-jude-parody

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #749 on: December 14, 2015, 09:45:40 AM »
Quote from: D. Doluntap on December 14, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
Get amp'd for the most creative thing since the 2004 NSBB pitching staff shirts:

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2015/12/12/9927990/welcome-cubs-jason-heyward-hey-jude-parody


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