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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #885 on: January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #886 on: January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #887 on: January 08, 2016, 09:10:00 AM »
Quote from: Canadouche on January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.

I guess, but trading a guy with Soler's upside and cost/control would require something really fucking good coming the other way. Like I said, there's no logic behind the expectation.

But since Span got 3/31, I don't see Dex getting either 4 years or a significant bump in pay over last season.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #888 on: January 08, 2016, 09:12:36 AM »
That was nice....those 12 or so days where the idea of trading Soler wasn't mentioned.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #889 on: January 08, 2016, 09:16:25 AM »
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That was nice....those 12 or so days where the idea of trading Soler wasn't mentioned.

The way this offseason has shaken out I don't think the Cubs can get the kind of pitcher they'd need to get in order to make them trade Soler. They're not going to sell low on him to make room for Dexter Fowler, so let's just move on.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #890 on: January 08, 2016, 09:30:36 AM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.

I guess, but trading a guy with Soler's upside and cost/control would require something really fucking good coming the other way. Like I said, there's no logic behind the expectation.

But since Span got 3/31, I don't see Dex getting either 4 years or a significant bump in pay over last season.

I think Span getting 3 years makes it more likely that Fowler gets 4 - he's two years younger than Span

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #891 on: January 08, 2016, 10:14:12 AM »
Quote from: R-V on January 08, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.

I guess, but trading a guy with Soler's upside and cost/control would require something really fucking good coming the other way. Like I said, there's no logic behind the expectation.

But since Span got 3/31, I don't see Dex getting either 4 years or a significant bump in pay over last season.

I think Span getting 3 years makes it more likely that Fowler gets 4 - he's two years younger than Span

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #892 on: January 08, 2016, 10:25:05 AM »
Quote from: R-V on January 08, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.

I guess, but trading a guy with Soler's upside and cost/control would require something really fucking good coming the other way. Like I said, there's no logic behind the expectation.

But since Span got 3/31, I don't see Dex getting either 4 years or a significant bump in pay over last season.

I think Span getting 3 years makes it more likely that Fowler gets 4 - he's two years younger than Span

Yeah, but since the price/years are so low, there clearly isn't the demand. I mean, who else is looking for a CF? The Cardinals?
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #893 on: January 08, 2016, 10:53:34 AM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 08, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.

I guess, but trading a guy with Soler's upside and cost/control would require something really fucking good coming the other way. Like I said, there's no logic behind the expectation.

But since Span got 3/31, I don't see Dex getting either 4 years or a significant bump in pay over last season.

I think Span getting 3 years makes it more likely that Fowler gets 4 - he's two years younger than Span

Yeah, but since the price/years are so low, there clearly isn't the demand. I mean, who else is looking for a CF? The Cardinals?

The Nationals, the White Sox (who are supposedly offering only 3 years, so if Fowler did settlef or 3 years he might fit their price range and they'd move Eaton's awful defense to left), quite a few teams actually.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #894 on: January 08, 2016, 10:57:21 AM »
Quote from: SKO on January 08, 2016, 10:53:34 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 08, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.

I guess, but trading a guy with Soler's upside and cost/control would require something really fucking good coming the other way. Like I said, there's no logic behind the expectation.

But since Span got 3/31, I don't see Dex getting either 4 years or a significant bump in pay over last season.

I think Span getting 3 years makes it more likely that Fowler gets 4 - he's two years younger than Span

Yeah, but since the price/years are so low, there clearly isn't the demand. I mean, who else is looking for a CF? The Cardinals?

The Nationals, the White Sox (who are supposedly offering only 3 years, so if Fowler did settlef or 3 years he might fit their price range and they'd move Eaton's awful defense to left), quite a few teams actually.

Sox seem a lot more excited at the idea of getting either Upton or Cespedes, to get more power in the lineup. Not sure they are looking to move Eaton anywhere.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #895 on: January 08, 2016, 10:57:48 AM »
DPD, but you could probably take take any team to the right of the Dodgers on here and make a case for a free agent CF for any of the ones that are trying to contend.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #896 on: January 08, 2016, 10:58:29 AM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 10:57:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 08, 2016, 10:53:34 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 08, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.

I guess, but trading a guy with Soler's upside and cost/control would require something really fucking good coming the other way. Like I said, there's no logic behind the expectation.

But since Span got 3/31, I don't see Dex getting either 4 years or a significant bump in pay over last season.

I think Span getting 3 years makes it more likely that Fowler gets 4 - he's two years younger than Span

Yeah, but since the price/years are so low, there clearly isn't the demand. I mean, who else is looking for a CF? The Cardinals?

The Nationals, the White Sox (who are supposedly offering only 3 years, so if Fowler did settlef or 3 years he might fit their price range and they'd move Eaton's awful defense to left), quite a few teams actually.

Sox seem a lot more excited at the idea of getting either Upton or Cespedes, to get more power in the lineup. Not sure they are looking to move Eaton anywhere.

The Sox are supposedly not offering more than 3 years to anybody, which makes the possibility of getting one of the top two free agents left on the market a little problematic.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #897 on: January 08, 2016, 11:04:22 AM »
Quote from: SKO on January 08, 2016, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 10:57:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 08, 2016, 10:53:34 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 08, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
Denard Span to the Giants for three (!) years.  I thought Dex would be a better fit for them.

He and Rodney are two guys I still expect to see in Cubs camp, despite there being no logic behind those expectations.

Well, if the rumors are true in that the Cubs are thinking of trading Soler, then there'd be a spot for Dexter at least.

I guess, but trading a guy with Soler's upside and cost/control would require something really fucking good coming the other way. Like I said, there's no logic behind the expectation.

But since Span got 3/31, I don't see Dex getting either 4 years or a significant bump in pay over last season.

I think Span getting 3 years makes it more likely that Fowler gets 4 - he's two years younger than Span

Yeah, but since the price/years are so low, there clearly isn't the demand. I mean, who else is looking for a CF? The Cardinals?

The Nationals, the White Sox (who are supposedly offering only 3 years, so if Fowler did settlef or 3 years he might fit their price range and they'd move Eaton's awful defense to left), quite a few teams actually.

Sox seem a lot more excited at the idea of getting either Upton or Cespedes, to get more power in the lineup. Not sure they are looking to move Eaton anywhere.

The Sox are supposedly not offering more than 3 years to anybody, which makes the possibility of getting one of the top two free agents left on the market a little problematic.

I've heard that too. Which is awesome, since that means they've clearly got no issue flushing Sale's prime down the toilet.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #898 on: January 08, 2016, 03:02:31 PM »
Say what you want about BRett, but here's some good analysis on Cubs' exit velocities.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #899 on: January 08, 2016, 03:08:55 PM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 08, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
Say what you want about BRett, but here's some good analysis on Cubs' exit velocities.

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