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Title: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 12, 2018, 08:03:58 AM
It's on.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: D. Doluntap on February 12, 2018, 03:41:25 PM
I think he needs to rely more on the eephus. Hopefully Jim Benedict agrees.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Canadouche on February 14, 2018, 08:46:14 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Someone else pointed out that Darvish/Chatwood will be costing the Cubs just a few million more each year than what Arrieta/Lackey cost.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 14, 2018, 10:06:57 AM
I'm most excited that I'll be able to constantly drive Pen crazy with my "No YU Darvish" "joke" for the next few years.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: PenFoe on February 14, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on February 14, 2018, 10:06:57 AM
I'm most excited that I'll be able to constantly drive Pen crazy with my "No YU Darvish" "joke" for the next few years.

The seedy underbelly of a seemingly positive acquisition.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on February 14, 2018, 10:06:57 AM
I'm most excited that I'll be able to constantly drive Pen crazy with my "No YU Darvish" "joke" for the next few years.

Shit, you know Maddon's going to throw him out in the field for one inning just for the "Yu's on first" jokes.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on February 14, 2018, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.
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Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Saul Goodman on February 15, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.

Gotta see how Maples handles the pressure cooker of Triple-A baseball before bringing him up.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 15, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.

Gotta see how Maples handles the pressure cooker of Triple-A baseball before bringing him up.

He has options, Grimm doesn't. If they trade Grimm, it's all moot. But Maples will be the biggest stud in the Iowa pen, might as well make him closer.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Oleg on February 20, 2018, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 15, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.

Gotta see how Maples handles the pressure cooker of Triple-A baseball before bringing him up.

He has options, Grimm doesn't. If they trade Grimm, it's all moot. But Maples will be the biggest stud in the Iowa pen, might as well make him closer.

I'm guessing he was more making fun of the idea that "handling high leverage situations" is some discernible skill and that skill can/should be honed in AAA.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 20, 2018, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2018, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 15, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here (https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impact-of-yu-darvish-on-mike-montgomery-on-the-cubs/) on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.

Gotta see how Maples handles the pressure cooker of Triple-A baseball before bringing him up.

He has options, Grimm doesn't. If they trade Grimm, it's all moot. But Maples will be the biggest stud in the Iowa pen, might as well make him closer.

I'm guessing he was more making fun of the idea that "handling high leverage situations" is some discernible skill and that skill can/should be honed in AAA.

I just figured he'd close because he'll have the best stuff in Iowa. Seeing how he does in high leverage situations is simply because that is where he'll be.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on March 06, 2018, 08:37:42 AM
Darvish goes against his old team on Jake's 32nd birthday. Guess we get closure all around today.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Saul Goodman on March 06, 2018, 09:31:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on March 06, 2018, 08:37:42 AM
Darvish goes against his old team on Jake's 32nd birthday. Guess we get closure all around today.

If you say so.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on March 06, 2018, 11:18:29 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 06, 2018, 09:31:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on March 06, 2018, 08:37:42 AM
Darvish goes against his old team on Jake's 32nd birthday. Guess we get closure all around today.

If you say so.

I just did.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on March 06, 2018, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 06, 2018, 09:31:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on March 06, 2018, 08:37:42 AM
Darvish goes against his old team on Jake's 32nd birthday. Guess we get closure all around today.

If you say so.

So.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: SKO on April 07, 2018, 09:04:26 PM
Well that was cool
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: D. Doluntap on April 08, 2018, 10:55:03 AM
Very cool.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 27, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
He escaped the fifth inning despite a meltdown threat!  EVERYTHING IS FINE.

Also he just notched one of the more amusing doubles of the year.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 27, 2018, 03:20:55 PM
So all we have to do is get more games against Milwaukee and Yu will be fine.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 02, 2018, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 27, 2018, 03:20:55 PM
So all we have to do is get more games against Milwaukee and Yu will be fine.

And no more against Colorado.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: SKO on May 02, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
I don't really think there's anything wrong here other than that he has no fastball command right now. The only problem is I don't know how that gets fixed if they don't know why it's happening?
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Wheezer on May 02, 2018, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
The only problem is I don't know how that gets fixed if they don't know why it's happening?

I presume the owner's manual was poorly written.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: R-V on May 03, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
I don't really think there's anything wrong here other than that he has no fastball command right now. The only problem is I don't know how that gets fixed if they don't know why it's happening?

I've seen some folks on the tubes suggest that Gimenez come up to play Yu's caddie and I'm cool with that. Caratini isn't really getting enough action to continue his development and giving Yu a security blanket probably isn't the worst idea in the world.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: SKO on May 03, 2018, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 03, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
I don't really think there's anything wrong here other than that he has no fastball command right now. The only problem is I don't know how that gets fixed if they don't know why it's happening?

I've seen some folks on the tubes suggest that Gimenez come up to play Yu's caddie and I'm cool with that. Caratini isn't really getting enough action to continue his development and giving Yu a security blanket probably isn't the worst idea in the world.

Yeah I mean I think that's fine and can't hurt to try, but it really doesn't seem like sequencing or pitch calling is the issue here. In fact I thought Willson and Yu were smart against the Brewers to mix and match and basically just ditch the 4 seam entirely. Still, you can only get away without throwing a fastball for strikes for so long. Our good friend Trueblood pointed out that Yu's release point this year is down 3-4 inches from last year which is kind of a big dip and probably what he needs to fix. I doubt a catch fixes that.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: R-V on May 03, 2018, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 03, 2018, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 03, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
I don't really think there's anything wrong here other than that he has no fastball command right now. The only problem is I don't know how that gets fixed if they don't know why it's happening?

I've seen some folks on the tubes suggest that Gimenez come up to play Yu's caddie and I'm cool with that. Caratini isn't really getting enough action to continue his development and giving Yu a security blanket probably isn't the worst idea in the world.

Yeah I mean I think that's fine and can't hurt to try, but it really doesn't seem like sequencing or pitch calling is the issue here. In fact I thought Willson and Yu were smart against the Brewers to mix and match and basically just ditch the 4 seam entirely. Still, you can only get away without throwing a fastball for strikes for so long. Our good friend Trueblood pointed out that Yu's release point this year is down 3-4 inches from last year which is kind of a big dip and probably what he needs to fix. I doubt a catch fixes that.

Given how wild Yu has been, it also might help to have a catcher back there who's *not* the worst in the majors at framing pitches.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: SKO on May 03, 2018, 01:06:11 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 03, 2018, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 03, 2018, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 03, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
I don't really think there's anything wrong here other than that he has no fastball command right now. The only problem is I don't know how that gets fixed if they don't know why it's happening?

I've seen some folks on the tubes suggest that Gimenez come up to play Yu's caddie and I'm cool with that. Caratini isn't really getting enough action to continue his development and giving Yu a security blanket probably isn't the worst idea in the world.


Yeah I mean I think that's fine and can't hurt to try, but it really doesn't seem like sequencing or pitch calling is the issue here. In fact I thought Willson and Yu were smart against the Brewers to mix and match and basically just ditch the 4 seam entirely. Still, you can only get away without throwing a fastball for strikes for so long. Our good friend Trueblood pointed out that Yu's release point this year is down 3-4 inches from last year which is kind of a big dip and probably what he needs to fix. I doubt a catch fixes that.

Given how wild Yu has been, it also might help to have a catcher back there who's *not* the worst in the majors at framing pitches.

Really disappointing that Willson has mostly regressed as a pitch framer instead of improving.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: PenFoe on May 03, 2018, 04:45:59 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 03, 2018, 01:06:11 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 03, 2018, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 03, 2018, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 03, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
I don't really think there's anything wrong here other than that he has no fastball command right now. The only problem is I don't know how that gets fixed if they don't know why it's happening?

I've seen some folks on the tubes suggest that Gimenez come up to play Yu's caddie and I'm cool with that. Caratini isn't really getting enough action to continue his development and giving Yu a security blanket probably isn't the worst idea in the world.


Yeah I mean I think that's fine and can't hurt to try, but it really doesn't seem like sequencing or pitch calling is the issue here. In fact I thought Willson and Yu were smart against the Brewers to mix and match and basically just ditch the 4 seam entirely. Still, you can only get away without throwing a fastball for strikes for so long. Our good friend Trueblood pointed out that Yu's release point this year is down 3-4 inches from last year which is kind of a big dip and probably what he needs to fix. I doubt a catch fixes that.

Given how wild Yu has been, it also might help to have a catcher back there who's *not* the worst in the majors at framing pitches.

Really disappointing that Willson has mostly regressed as a pitch framer instead of improving.

David Ross leaves and it all goes to shit.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: D. Doluntap on August 21, 2018, 04:43:23 PM
Welp. Is there a Drew Smyly thread?
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: PenFoe on August 22, 2018, 11:08:01 AM
Not on pace for the opt-out.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: flannj on March 30, 2019, 11:12:31 PM

I never used to grind my teeth.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Wheezer on March 31, 2019, 12:42:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 30, 2019, 11:12:31 PM

I never used to grind my teeth.

Bruxism wouldn't be an inapt metaphor for my very exisistence.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Canadouche on March 31, 2019, 07:21:36 AM
What did Chatwood do to him?
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Armchair_QB on March 31, 2019, 06:12:55 PM
It's hard to put together a pitching staff that has the ability to lose 100 games but the Cubs appear to have done so.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Tonker on April 01, 2019, 02:05:37 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 31, 2019, 06:12:55 PM
It's hard to put together a pitching staff that has the ability to lose 100 games but the Cubs appear to have done so.

Come on, man - we're three games into the season.  Yeesh.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Armchair_QB on July 03, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Can they deport this fucking guy?
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: CubFaninHydePark on July 03, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 03, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Can they deport this fucking guy?

Only if they send Theo with him. This is a signing that costs jobs.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Yeti on August 08, 2019, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on July 03, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 03, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Can they deport this fucking guy?

Only if they send Theo with him. This is a signing that costs jobs.

Costs so many jobs
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 08, 2019, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2019, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on July 03, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 03, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Can they deport this fucking guy?

Only if they send Theo with him. This is a signing that costs jobs.

Costs so many jobs

All. The. Fucking. Jobs.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: PenFoe on August 16, 2019, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 08, 2019, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2019, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on July 03, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 03, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Can they deport this fucking guy?

Only if they send Theo with him. This is a signing that costs jobs.

Costs so many jobs

All. The. Fucking. Jobs.

More people losing their jobs because of an immigrant.
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 27, 2019, 07:19:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 16, 2019, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 08, 2019, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2019, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on July 03, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 03, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Can they deport this fucking guy?

Only if they send Theo with him. This is a signing that costs jobs.

Costs so many jobs

All. The. Fucking. Jobs.

More people losing their jobs because of an immigrant.

Yu also killed Steve Jobs
Title: Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
Post by: Tonker on August 28, 2019, 08:18:02 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 27, 2019, 07:19:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 16, 2019, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 08, 2019, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2019, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on July 03, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 03, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Can they deport this fucking guy?

Only if they send Theo with him. This is a signing that costs jobs.

Costs so many jobs

All. The. Fucking. Jobs.

More people losing their jobs because of an immigrant.

Yu also killed Steve Jobs

No I didn't.