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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #255 on: May 08, 2012, 11:23:05 AM »
Quote from: PenPho on May 08, 2012, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

Mark DeRosa.

Aramis Ramirez.

I don't remember the Cubs trading Aramis Ramirez at his peak.

I misunderstood.

*Goes to the back of the line*
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #256 on: May 08, 2012, 11:31:29 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

Mark DeRosa.

Jake Fox?
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #257 on: May 08, 2012, 11:33:43 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

Mark DeRosa.

Jake Fox?

More minor deals, but Jose Ceda and Chris Archer were traded while they still had a lot of value. Or at least right before they got substantially worse.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #258 on: May 08, 2012, 11:38:52 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

Mark DeRosa.

Jake Fox?

More minor deals, but Jose Ceda and Chris Archer were traded while they still had a lot of value. Or at least right before they got substantially worse.

Ceda got the Cubs the services of the serviceable Kevin Gregg. Archer got them Garza's left foot.

This appears to be all they have left from the Fox/Miles trade.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #259 on: May 08, 2012, 11:44:33 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

Mark DeRosa.

Jake Fox?

More minor deals, but Jose Ceda and Chris Archer were traded while they still had a lot of value. Or at least right before they got substantially worse.

Ceda got the Cubs the services of the serviceable Kevin Gregg. Archer got them Garza's left foot.

This appears to be all they have left from the Fox/Miles trade.

.188/.260/.246 in 27 games at Iowa last year.

OPS = .506.  Jebus the guy makes Darwin Barney look like Matt Kemp.  Of course his wherabouts in 2012 appear to be unknown.  My guess is he's working at his local car wash.
Just a sloppy, undisciplined team.  Garbage.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #260 on: May 08, 2012, 11:47:23 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
.188/.260/.246 in 27 games at Iowa last year.

OPS = .506.  Jebus the guy makes Darwin Barney look like Matt Kemp.

Yeah... If they moved Barney to 1B/OF.

You know, to prolong his career.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #261 on: May 08, 2012, 11:53:20 AM »
Hack Jew Lee
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #262 on: May 08, 2012, 11:54:18 AM »
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #263 on: May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM »
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012).  When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.

And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:  

G  GS    IP      H   K  BB   ERA    WHIP   BAA   W-L
6   6   39.2    35  21  9   2.72    1.11    .235   4-0

Any guesses?
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #264 on: May 08, 2012, 12:04:04 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012).  When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.

And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:  

G  GS    IP      H   K  BB   ERA    WHIP   BAA   W-L
6   6   39.2    35  21  9   2.72    1.11    .235   4-0

Any guesses?


Nolasco 2012?
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #265 on: May 08, 2012, 12:06:01 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 12:04:04 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012).  When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.

And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:  

G  GS    IP      H   K  BB   ERA    WHIP   BAA   W-L
6   6   39.2    35  21  9   2.72    1.11    .235   4-0

Any guesses?


Nolasco 2012?

WINNAR.

I mean sure, Reynel Pinto and Sergio Meat Tray are probably bussing tables somewhere (and starting pitching is hardly a big problem for the Cubs right now anyway), but that factoid alone has still managed to rekindle some PIERRE/HENDRY ANGER.
Just a sloppy, undisciplined team.  Garbage.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #266 on: May 08, 2012, 01:00:39 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012).  When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.

And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:  

G  GS    IP      H   K  BB   ERA    WHIP   BAA   W-L
6   6   39.2    35  21  9   2.72    1.11    .235   4-0

Any guesses?


Illinois-Wisconsin?

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #267 on: May 08, 2012, 01:05:42 PM »
Quote from: R-V on May 08, 2012, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012).  When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.

And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:  

G  GS    IP      H   K  BB   ERA    WHIP   BAA   W-L
6   6   39.2    35  21  9   2.72    1.11    .235   4-0

Any guesses?


Illinois-Wisconsin?

Sure?
Just a sloppy, undisciplined team.  Garbage.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #268 on: May 08, 2012, 03:16:14 PM »
Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2012, 10:44:21 AM

I think Garza might be where we see the biggest difference between Epstink and Hendry.

Hendry would have traded Garza this winter for the best available package, and Epstink won't move him until he gets what he wants.



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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #269 on: May 11, 2012, 12:14:23 PM »
Josh Beckett is being run out of Boston. Does anyone really think he's done? Coincidentally, he's owed $2MM/year less than Soriano over the same term. Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season. The Cubs could kick in a bit more than $6MM cash, Ian Stewart, Blake Dewitt and any other trash to get Soriano off their hands, and the Sawx might be happy to get the chicken guy out of there.

You then would have Youkilis at 3rd, Rizzo at 1st, The Hair in left:

DeJesus rf
Castro ss
Youkilis 3b
LaHair lf
Rizzo 1b
Soto c
Johnson/Campana cf
Barney 2b
SP: Garza/Beckett/Snork/Maholm/Volstad

It doesn't make the Cubs any older, and if Beckett shows signs that he's healthy and focused, he's a much more trade-able piece later.

Thoughts?