This thread was inspired by some of the comments in the Letters From Iwo Jima thread.
My two personal favorite war movies are "Paths of Glory" (Kirk Douglas) and "Red Badge of Courage" (Audie Murphy version). The "Red Badge of Courage" is faithful to the novella. The author had never been a soldier, much less in battle, yet the book was described by Civil War veterans as a flawlessly accurate depiction of what they went through. But the important theme is "what would I do if I were a front line soldier?" "Paths of Glory" is ironically titled because it is about nothing but the ugliness of the motivations behind war. I is set in World War I. The French General Staff, having just called for a suicidal and pointless attack, randomly chooses three ordinary soldiers to be tried and executed for cowardice which the General Staff has decided should be given as the reason for the failure of the offensive. Rent these movies.
I love Zulu. I think it's a guy movie. Almost every guy knows it and every girl hates it.
But seriously, what a cool movie. I love the Zulus and the way they fought against the British. Cocky imperialist bastards.
Sargeant York
Winds of War/War and Remembrence
Does Braveheart count as a war movie?
Quote from: Kermit on February 12, 2007, 01:35:18 PM
Does Braveheart count as a war movie?
Every bit as much so as Star Wars or Flash Gordon.
Quote from: ~Apex on February 12, 2007, 01:38:29 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 12, 2007, 01:35:18 PM
Does Braveheart count as a war movie?
Every bit as much so as Star Wars or Flash Gordon.
Okay, then
Braveheart and
Star Wars.
The Longest Day
Sands of Iwo Jima
Zulu
The Grand Illusion
Apocalypse Now
Patton
Stalag 17
Lawrence of Arabia
Casablanca (maybe not technically a war movie, but still outstanding)
Back to Bataan
They Were Expendable
War of the Roses
Ok...
Pvt Ryan
Dirty Dozen
Where Eagles Dare
and Flash Gordon.
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Thank goodness for the Wyld Stallyns.
Battleground
Duck Soup (Hail, Hail Freedonia!)
Bridge on the River Kwai
The Dirty Dozen
Kelly's Heroes
It's not a movie, but I love the Band of Brothers miniseries.
Full Metal Jacket.
It's Kubricxellent.
Quote from: CPT on February 12, 2007, 03:11:46 PM
Bridge on the River Kwai
The Dirty Dozen
Kelly's Heroes
It's not a movie, but I love the Band of Brothers miniseries.
Kelly's Heroes is great. Uncle Leo is in it.
Quote from: AC on February 12, 2007, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: CPT on February 12, 2007, 03:11:46 PM
Bridge on the River Kwai
The Dirty Dozen
Kelly's Heroes
It's not a movie, but I love the Band of Brothers miniseries.
Kelly's Heroes is great. Uncle Leo is in it.
Yup, as were Archie Bunker and Don Rickles. Rickles was great, he looked exactly the same in that movie as he does now. Was the guy ever young?
Quote from: CPT on February 12, 2007, 03:11:46 PM
Bridge on the River Kwai
The Dirty Dozen
Kelly's Heroes
It's not a movie, but I love the Band of Brothers miniseries.
I could get along with you all right. Fine choices.
I'd also put The Longest Day toward the top of my list.
Quote from: CPT on February 12, 2007, 03:27:47 PM
Quote from: AC on February 12, 2007, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: CPT on February 12, 2007, 03:11:46 PM
Bridge on the River Kwai
The Dirty Dozen
Kelly's Heroes
It's not a movie, but I love the Band of Brothers miniseries.
Kelly's Heroes is great. Uncle Leo is in it.
Yup, as were Archie Bunker and Don Rickles. Rickles was great, he looked exactly the same in that movie as he does now. Was the guy ever young?
Yeah..before dirt was invented.
All the movies listed so far are the balls. The only additions I can think of are We Were Soldiers and A Bridge too Far.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 12, 2007, 08:55:10 PM
All the movies listed so far are the balls. The only additions I can think of are We Were Soldiers and A Bridge too Far.
A Fridge Too Far?
Quote from: AC on February 12, 2007, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 12, 2007, 08:55:10 PM
All the movies listed so far are the balls. The only additions I can think of are We Were Soldiers and A Bridge too Far.
A Fridge Too Far?
Please, give me my dignity. I just want to watch "Honk if You're Horny" in peace.
And I'll even steer this one back onto topic:
The Battle of the Bulge.
Savalas + WWII = Awesome
Stripes
Patton
Das Boot
Glory
Where Eagles Dare (someone else had mentioned this, very underrated movie)
Apocalypse Now
Not in my top 5, but still deserve a mention: Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, Good Morning Vietman, Tora! Tora! Tora!, Sands of Iwo Jima, The Deer Hunter, The Devil's Brigade, Midway, and many more I can't think of right now.
And I would have to discount We Were Soldiers because of the Chris Klein factor, (Spoiler Alert!) although he dies so I guess it evens out.
Can someone please define "war", because I'm pretty sure Road house and/or Walking Tall are the two best movies about guys declaring "war" on evil in the world.
M*A*S*H
The Boys in Company C
Platoon
Apocalypse Now
Patton
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Also, honorable mention to all the great WWII flicks, where the guy from Brooklyn always got it, and his last words were invariably, "Tell my goil ta meet me at da Dodja game". The fresh-faced kid always got it, along with the crusty old vet, and the jagoff who finally redeems himself at the end by cashing in his chips while saving the platoon.
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep (Robert Wise may have had the greatest range of any director - From this to Sound of Music to Day the Earth Stood Still to West Side Story to The Andromeda Strain to Star Trek I? Wow.)
The Longest Day
Full Metal Jacket
Bridge on the River Kwai
Stalag 17 (if it can be considered a war movie)
Does "The Final Countdown" count?
(insert Gob Bluth reference here)
Quote from: forkserker on February 14, 2007, 04:23:02 PM
Does "The Final Countdown" count?
(insert Gob Bluth reference here)
No, but Red Dawn does.
Quote from: forkserker on February 14, 2007, 04:23:02 PM
Does "The Final Countdown" count?
(insert Gob Bluth reference here)
Were leaving together,
But still its farewell...
And maybe well come back,
To Earth, who can tell?
I never figured out why they made a war film about beef suet.
(http://www.cyber-heritage.co.uk/women/ator36.jpg)
Well, it was the GOOD beef suet.
This only confirms all my jokes about English food. How much for a goat ball pie, guv?
Quote from: Tonker on February 15, 2007, 04:17:26 AM
I never figured out why they made a war film about beef suet.
It's about Great Britain's ongoing war against the human digestive tract.
It looks like an upside down chocolate chip muffin.
Full Metal Jacket is probably my all-time favorite. Glory and the Band of Brothers Series get a close 2nd.
Other favorites are Black Hawk Down, We Were Soldiers, Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, Tora! Tora! Tora!, Gladiator, The Siege of Fire Base Gloria, Platoon Leader, Crimson Tide, Hunt for Red October.....oh god I love military movies.
Bat 21
Quote from: MikeC on February 15, 2007, 03:32:55 PM
Full Metal Jacket is probably my all-time favorite. Glory and the Band of Brothers Series get a close 2nd.
Other favorites are Black Hawk Down, We Were Soldiers, Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, Tora! Tora! Tora!, Gladiator, The Siege of Fire Base Gloria, Platoon Leader, Crimson Tide, Hunt for Red October.....oh god I love military movies.
I was wondering what took you so long to pitch in.
Quote from: Chuckosan on February 14, 2007, 04:16:31 PM
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep (Robert Wise may have had the greatest range of any director - From this to Sound of Music to Day the Earth Stood Still to West Side Story to The Andromeda Strain to Star Trek I? Wow.)
The Longest Day
Full Metal Jacket
Bridge on the River Kwai
Stalag 17 (if it can be considered a war movie)
The Enemy Below. Curt Jurgens, as a German submarine commander, delivers one of my favorite movie lines to his second in command, Theodore Bickel, when their submarine creakily settles to the bottom of the ocean without imploding..."Ve build 'dem good in Chermany, no Heine?" I say this every time one of our Braun kitchen appliances breaks down.
Do Spies Like Us count?
What, no love for The Great Escape?
"Ah, Herr Bartlett. Your German is good. And I hear also your French. Your hands... up!"
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39400000/jpg/_39400795_escapemcqueen203b.jpg)
And while we're (I'm) on the subject of escape movies, what about "Escape to Victory"? Watching Sly Stallone flounder around in goal is worth the price of the entrance fee alone.
(http://www.escapetovictory.spodrum.co.uk/images/photoalbum/205.jpg)
Ah, Pele, Osvaldo Ardiles and Bobby "No" Moore in the same lineup. If only...
I mentioned it in the other thread, and it deserves mention in this one...
Dr Strangelove.
Quote from: bozos72 on February 16, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
I mentioned it in the other thread, and it deserves mention in this one...
Dr Strangelove.
You can't talk about Dr. Strangelove in here, this is the War Movie thread!
Cold War movies:
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold
The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Mine are:
Saving Private Ryan
Heartbreak Ridge (I love Eastwoods role in this)
We were Soldiers
Band of Brothers (I know it's a mini series)
Flags of our Fathers
Letters from Iwo Jima
Three Kings
The Deer Hunter
Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
Quote from: Buford Jong Il on February 22, 2007, 01:48:51 PM
Mine are:
Heartbreak Ridge (I love Eastwoods role in this)
Holy shit, I can't believe I forgot this one - the only war movie about the US going into Granada. Clint is his usual bad-ass self.
Apocalypse Now
Full Metal Jacket
The Thin Red Line
Sink the Bismarck
Three Kings
Von Ryan's Express
Soldier of Orange
The Big Red One
Dr. Strangelove
Triumph of the Will
Band of Brothers
A few more Cold War movies:
The Third Man (while it's not about the Cold War it is set in post-war Vienna)
The Ipcress File
Funeral in Berlin
Quote from: JL on February 24, 2007, 09:46:21 PM
Sink the Bismarck
Showing this Sunday on "Family Classics" with your host Frazier Thomas.
Quote from: forkserker on March 01, 2007, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: JL on February 24, 2007, 09:46:21 PM
Sink the Bismarck
Showing this Sunday on "Family Classics" with your host Frazier Thomas.
You just reminded me of a great one. "The Cruel Sea". British movie about life on a destroyer (I think) in WWII. The movie was made in the mid '50s based on the novel by Nicolas Monserat.
I realize I'm way late to the party on this one but with Saving Private Ryan and We Were Soldiers being on all weekend on TNT it got me thinking so here's my list-
1. Saving Private Ryan- We've all seen it, and damned I don't still blubber like a little girl when old Ryan says "Tell me I'm a good man"
2. Gettysburg- One of the most faithful movie adaptations of an absolutely awesome book that every American should read, The Killer Angels. Jeff Shaara needs to die for disgracing his father's legacy by writing the drivel that was Gods and Generals.
3. We Were Soldiers- Fuck Hollywood. It got criticized for being a "too noble" version of Vietnam, but I've read the book and most of the 'Nam vets I know say this is closer to the real thing than any of the others. The subplot of the families at home receiving the telegrams tears at ya.
4. Black Hawk Down- Pretty faithful to the book and exciting from beginning to end.
5. Platoon- It's not as much of a cinematic accomplishment as Full Metal Jacket, and it's nowhere near the mindfucking masterpiece that Apocalypse now is, but I still like the plot of this one the best and the dichotomy between Berenger's character Barnes and Willem Dafoe's Elias.
6. Apocalypse Now- Mind fucking masterpiece.
7. Full Metal Jacket- My father thought it was a good idea to let me watch this at age 6. I had nightmares about that guy blowing his own brains out for a while. Watched it again years later and finally realized just how awesome this movie is.
8. A Bridge Too Far- Pretty accurate in it's retelling of Market Garden, one of the most brilliantly stupid plans in military history, for which all of the blame can be laid upon the Brits. (Yeah, Tonk, I said it). Connery and Redford are pretty badass as well.
9. All Quiet on the Western Front- The original 1930s version. There was a color one made later, but nothing beats the original. I'm still not sure how it's such a high quality film for being one of the first "talkies" ever. As haunting and damning as the book it's based on.
10. Flags of Our Fathers/Letters from Iwo Jima- I sort of consider these to be one movie, as each one just presents one side of the same coin. Both are brilliant, but Letters is probably the better film.
11. Tae Guk Gi- This is actually a Korean film about two brothers forced to fight on opposite sides during the war. I saw it on a shelf at Hollywood Video and watched it because I had nothing better to do and I'm tired of Hollywood ignoring the Korean War (someday, Grandpa, someday). It's an incredibly moving film if you don't mind subtitles. Or if you speak Korean.
12. Stalingrad- A German film from the early 90s. Absolutely brutal to watch. That place was hell on earth.
13. Glory- Denzel, Morgan Freeman, and Ferris Bueller all give great performances.
14. Enemy at the Gates- If you take out the shitty love story (but keep Rachel Weisz getting humped), this is a really good movie. Snipers are cool.
15. Hurt Locker- I work with a bunch of former EOD techs on a daily basis, so I can say on pretty good authority that the accuracy in this film is shit. I still really like the message though.
16. The Longest Day- Paul Anka, Richard Burton, Red Buttons, Sean Connery, Henry Fonda, John Wayne. "I don't have to tell you the story. You all know it. Only two kinds of people are gonna stay on this beach: those that are already dead and those that are gonna die. Now get off your butts. You guys are the Fighting 29th. "
17. Tora! Tora! Tora!- An incredibly accurate movie about Pearl Harbor that doesn't suck. Fuck Michael Bay.
18. Thin Red Line- The 90s' remake isn't bad, but the original is still much better.
19. The Dirty Dozen- If you haven't seen it, you're probably not a man.
20. Kelly's Heroes- Eastwood's a badass and Donald Sutherland makes me laugh every time.
Oh, and if Band of Brothers counts as one film, go ahead and slot it in at #3.
Saving Private Ryan was on a bunch this weekend, and I think Black Hawk Down was on FX a few weeks ago. I can't not watch them. According to SKO's list, I have a lot of viewing to do.
Where do you put movies like Stalag 17 and Bridge Over The River Kwai?
No battles = not really a "War" movie? Just trying to see where the line is.
You have a pretty good list for sooth.
No "Sands of Iwo Jima"?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 12, 2010, 10:20:02 AM
Where do you put movies like Stalag 17 and Bridge Over The River Kwai?
No battles = not really a "War" movie? Just trying to see where the line is.
You have a pretty good list for sooth.
No "Sands of Iwo Jima"?
I'm not really sure where I put them. P.O.W. movies are almost a genre of their own. Sands of Iwo Jima is good, but The Longest Day won out as best John Wayne war movie. Although I fucking love The Green Berets as well.
Also recommend (especially for TEC and SKO) "Paths of Glory".
Quote from: CT III on April 12, 2010, 10:47:15 AM
Also recommend (especially for TEC and SKO) "Paths of Glory".
Along with all other Kubric.
Does the original Sparticus count as a war movie?
I don't think either of these movies have been posted:
A Midnight Clear. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Midnight_Clear) Not particularly well known but a great cast and story.
Yamato. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_(film)) A Japanese made film about the battleship Yamato and it's crew. The film focuses primarily on Operation Ten-Go and the absolute suicidal aspects of that mission. Extremely bloody and graphic. I find it interesting to watch movies that chronicle history that are not necessarily written and shot from an American perspective. Never released in the United States but you can find it on-line.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 12, 2010, 10:49:54 AM
Quote from: CT III on April 12, 2010, 10:47:15 AM
Also recommend (especially for TEC and SKO) "Paths of Glory".
Along with all other Kubric.
Does the original Sparticus count as a war movie?
I tend to separate modern war films from ones based on medieval and ancient topics. That's sort of the sandals and swords genre. Paths of Glory is sweet. Kirk Douglass is awesome.
Quote from: flannj on April 12, 2010, 11:02:49 AM
I don't think either of these movies have been posted:
A Midnight Clear. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Midnight_Clear) Not particularly well known but a great cast and story.
Yamato. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_(film)) A Japanese made film about the battleship Yamato and it's crew. The film focuses primarily on Operation Ten-Go and the absolute suicidal aspects of that mission. Extremely bloody and graphic. I find it interesting to watch movies that chronicle history that are not necessarily written and shot from an American perspective. Never released in the United States but you can find it on-line.
DPD- I saw that one. Really good. Tense as well. You think it might be a heartwarming story about the two groups making peace in the middle of the war but then the shit hits the fan. I also recommend Joyeux Noel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424205/), it's a French movie about the 1914 Christmas truce on the Western Front that's pretty good, and Gallipoli (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082432/) is always worth watching.
In the Army Now
Credit to Chuck and Taylor (Chuck Taylor?) for mentioning Stalag 17. Is Taylor still around in some capacity?
Spartacus and Patton for me, unless Spartacus doesn't count.
Quote from: Simmer on April 12, 2010, 11:43:43 AM
Spartacus and Patton for me, unless Spartacus doesn't count.
Patton is Steak Tits Balls on Sauce. Whatever. (Blu-Ray version at Costco for about $13 right now).
Not really a war movie per se, but Good Bad and Ugly has an awesome battle sequence.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 12, 2010, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: Simmer on April 12, 2010, 11:43:43 AM
Spartacus and Patton for me, unless Spartacus doesn't count.
Patton is Steak Tits Balls on Sauce. Whatever. (Blu-Ray version at Costco for about $13 right now).
Not really a war movie per se, but Good Bad and Ugly has an awesome battle sequence.
Is there anything that isn't on sale at Costco for you, Mr. Gitles.
Patton is great. Did anyone else see the made for tv followup, the Last Days of Patton? Really well made and quite sad for a tv sequel.
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
I realize I'm way late to the party on this one but with Saving Private Ryan and We Were Soldiers being on all weekend on TNT it got me thinking so here's my list-
11. Tae Guk Gi- This is actually a Korean film about two brothers forced to fight on opposite sides during the war. I saw it on a shelf at Hollywood Video and watched it because I had nothing better to do and I'm tired of Hollywood ignoring the Korean War (someday, Grandpa, someday). It's an incredibly moving film if you don't mind subtitles. Or if you speak Korean.
Korea? How about "MASH"?
Quote from: CBStew on April 12, 2010, 08:09:02 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
I realize I'm way late to the party on this one but with Saving Private Ryan and We Were Soldiers being on all weekend on TNT it got me thinking so here's my list-
11. Tae Guk Gi- This is actually a Korean film about two brothers forced to fight on opposite sides during the war. I saw it on a shelf at Hollywood Video and watched it because I had nothing better to do and I'm tired of Hollywood ignoring the Korean War (someday, Grandpa, someday). It's an incredibly moving film if you don't mind subtitles. Or if you speak Korean.
Korea? How about "MASH"?
I realize the novel was based on Altman's experiences in Korea, but the movie and tv show were both clearly co-opted and used as metaphors for Vietnam. Not movies about the Korean War in it's own right.
Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2010, 12:49:04 AM
I realize the novel was based on Altman's experiences in Korea, but the movie and tv show were both clearly co-opted and used as metaphors for Vietnam. Not movies about the Korean War in it's own right.
Altman did the film. Richard Hooker wrote the book.
I thought Ring Lardner's kid wrote the book. Or was that the screenplay?
Quote from: MAD on April 13, 2010, 10:35:33 AM
I thought Ring Lardner's kid wrote the book. Or was that the screenplay?
Screenplay. Then Altman basically ad libbed the whole thing on teh set.
Either way my point still stands. The "Korea" in M*A*S*H* is clearly supposed to be Vietnam.
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
15. Hurt Locker- I work with a bunch of former EOD techs on a daily basis, so I can say on pretty good authority that the accuracy in this film is shit. I still really like the message though.
Who do you work with? Maybe I know them. For realz. They former Army or some other service?
Quote from: JD on April 13, 2010, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
15. Hurt Locker- I work with a bunch of former EOD techs on a daily basis, so I can say on pretty good authority that the accuracy in this film is shit. I still really like the message though.
Who do you work with? Maybe I know them. For realz. They former Army or some other service?
I think they're all former Army. I work for the Ordnance and Explosives section of the Army Corps of Engineers in Rock Island. Technically they're all still EOD, they just go to old defense sites and make sure all of the ordnance has been removed and the land is safe for civilian use. Most of them are in their late 40s-early 60s, though.
Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2010, 10:20:20 PM
Quote from: JD on April 13, 2010, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
15. Hurt Locker- I work with a bunch of former EOD techs on a daily basis, so I can say on pretty good authority that the accuracy in this film is shit. I still really like the message though.
Who do you work with? Maybe I know them. For realz. They former Army or some other service?
I think they're all former Army. I work for the Ordnance and Explosives section of the Army Corps of Engineers in Rock Island. Technically they're all still EOD, they just go to old defense sites and make sure all of the ordnance has been removed and the land is safe for civilian use. Most of them are in their late 40s-early 60s, though.
Getting IL wages and filing IA taxes? Move to IL and get rid of the complications.
Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2010, 07:14:04 PM
Either way my point still stands. The "Korea" in M*A*S*H* is clearly supposed to be Vietnam.
Eisenhower ended the Korean War before the Selective Service System got around to drafting me. Otherwise I could speak authoritatively about MASH. However, I don't think that the movie or the TV series is really about the Vietnam War. The movie and the tv series are both anti-war, but not in the same way that popular culture opposed the Vietnam War. Anger about Vietnam did get taken out on the people who served in that war. We didn't recognize heroism because the war was deemed to be wrong. Shame to say, we didn't believe that there were good guys on our side. I won't go so far as to say that we believed that they were all Sgt Calleys (sp?). There was nothing humorous or ennobling about Vietnam in the popular culture. Therefore, when we laughed along with Hawkeye, Radar, Trapper John, et al, it sure didn't make us think about Vietnam. MASH was the Korean War version of CATCH 22, nothing more.
Having referenced it in the previous post, I will add Catch 22 to my list of favorite war movies. No where near as good as the book. But who reads nowadays?
Quote from: CBStew on April 14, 2010, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2010, 07:14:04 PM
Either way my point still stands. The "Korea" in M*A*S*H* is clearly supposed to be Vietnam.
Eisenhower ended the Korean War before the Selective Service System got around to drafting me. Otherwise I could speak authoritatively about MASH. However, I don't think that the movie or the TV series is really about the Vietnam War. The movie and the tv series are both anti-war, but not in the same way that popular culture opposed the Vietnam War. Anger about Vietnam did get taken out on the people who served in that war. We didn't recognize heroism because the war was deemed to be wrong. Shame to say, we didn't believe that there were good guys on our side. I won't go so far as to say that we believed that they were all Sgt Calleys (sp?). There was nothing humorous or ennobling about Vietnam in the popular culture. Therefore, when we laughed along with Hawkeye, Radar, Trapper John, et al, it sure didn't make us think about Vietnam. MASH was the Korean War version of CATCH 22, nothing more.
Quote
"Though the series was set in Korea, M*A*S*H, both the movie and the series, was initially developed as a critique of the Vietnam War."
http://www.museum.tv/eotvsection.php?entrycode=mash
Quote"Like the movie, the series was as much an allegory about the Vietnam War (still in progress when the show began) as it was about the Korean War.[3] It took a number of minor creative liberties with the actual facts of the Korean War."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M*A*S*H_%28TV_series%29
I respectfully dissent.
Quote from: CBStew on April 14, 2010, 06:05:33 PM
I respectfully dissent.
As is your right as an American. My complaint about a lack of Korean War films of a serious nature at least still stands.
Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2010, 10:20:20 PM
Quote from: JD on April 13, 2010, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
15. Hurt Locker- I work with a bunch of former EOD techs on a daily basis, so I can say on pretty good authority that the accuracy in this film is shit. I still really like the message though.
Who do you work with? Maybe I know them. For realz. They former Army or some other service?
I think they're all former Army. I work for the Ordnance and Explosives section of the Army Corps of Engineers in Rock Island. Technically they're all still EOD, they just go to old defense sites and make sure all of the ordnance has been removed and the land is safe for civilian use. Most of them are in their late 40s-early 60s, though.
I probably might not know them, then. If you hear any of 'em talkin' aboot being stationed up in Ft. Drum, then ask 'em if they know Dills. They'll know what ya mean.
(it's my last name)
Quote from: SKO on April 14, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
Quote from: CBStew on April 14, 2010, 06:05:33 PM
I respectfully dissent.
As is your right as an American. My complaint about a lack of Korean War films of a serious nature at least still stands.
I refuse to surrender.
Pork Chop Hill. Bridge at Toko Ri; and one of the best movies ever made, the original Manchurian Candidate.
Quote from: CBStew on April 15, 2010, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 14, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
Quote from: CBStew on April 14, 2010, 06:05:33 PM
I respectfully dissent.
As is your right as an American. My complaint about a lack of Korean War films of a serious nature at least still stands.
I refuse to surrender.
Pork Chop Hill. Bridge at Toko Ri; and one of the best movies ever made, the original Manchurian Candidate.
Pork Chop Hill is legit. Would you recommend the Bridge at Toko Ri? I've never seen it. I don't really count the original Manchurian Candidate because the war is relatively minor in the grand scheme of things. Were it not for the war the damned commies would have just found some other way to pull of their nefarious plot. My point is the war's been largely ignored for the last several decades. The average kid my age knows nothing about the Korean War and it's pathetic. Sadly, I think Hollywood could have some positive influence if they would just bring it to light once more.
I'm finally watching Band of Brothers. I regret signing up for the 1 DVD-per-month plan on Netflix.
Quote from: Weebs on April 22, 2010, 08:46:30 AM
I'm finally watching Band of Brothers. I regret signing up for the 1 DVD-per-month plan on Netflix.
Change it and get your second DVD on Saturday?
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 06:54:40 PM
Quote from: CBStew on April 15, 2010, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 14, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
Quote from: CBStew on April 14, 2010, 06:05:33 PM
I respectfully dissent.
As is your right as an American. My complaint about a lack of Korean War films of a serious nature at least still stands.
I refuse to surrender.
Pork Chop Hill. Bridge at Toko Ri; and one of the best movies ever made, the original Manchurian Candidate.
The average kid my age knows nothing about the Korean War and it's pathetic.
I am not sure that my being around at the time necessarily meant that I knew what was going on. We were very confused. Unlike World War I, where battle lines became fixed and static, World War II saw almost constant battleline progress for the good guys, once the Americans began their offenses in both theaters. When North Korea invaded the South it was dramatic. When the UN entered the war it was dramatic. When China entered it was dramatic. Then there were years of no change. MacArthur wanted to be unleashed to go after China. It didn't happen. Thank God. Truman canned MacArthur's ass. Thank God. We knew that nuclear weapons could change everything. That didn't happen. Thank God. In the meantime, teenagers like me who were finishing high school were looking forward to being drafted until Eisenhower negotiated a truce that locked the demarcation at the 38th parallel. Thank God. Now you know evrything that I know and it took less than minute.
Re watched The Desert Fox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Desert_Fox:_The_Story_of_Rommel) last night.
It is based on the book Rommel by Brigadier General Desmond Young
James Mason is excellent as Rommel.
The film is sympathetic to him and spends quite a bit of time covering his gradual realization that he is serving an insane leader.
This realization and its possible link to the assassination attempt of Hitler eventually lead to the ordering of Rommel's death by Hitler.
Well acted throughout, the scene that covers the meeting between Rommel and Hitler (Luther Adler) is particularly good.
Highly recommended for the performances as well as the historical viewpoints.
Where do people put Hunt for Red October?
War-thriller?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Where do people put Hunt for Red October?
War-thriller?
Cold War-Scottish actor as Russian-thriller
(Also one of the only two good books written by Clancy)
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Where do people put Hunt for Red October?
War-thriller?
Why don't you bend over, and I'll show you?
Quote from: flannj on April 30, 2010, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Where do people put Hunt for Red October?
War-thriller?
Cold War-Scottish actor as Russian-thriller
(Also one of the only two good books written by Clancy)
#2 being Cardinal of the Kremlin?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 11:08:58 AM
Quote from: flannj on April 30, 2010, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Where do people put Hunt for Red October?
War-thriller?
Cold War-Scottish actor as Russian-thriller
(Also one of the only two good books written by Clancy)
#2 being Cardinal of the Kremlin?
Red Storm Rising.
Mostly because of no Jack Ryan.
Quote from: flannj on April 30, 2010, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 11:08:58 AM
Quote from: flannj on April 30, 2010, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Where do people put Hunt for Red October?
War-thriller?
Cold War-Scottish actor as Russian-thriller
(Also one of the only two good books written by Clancy)
#2 being Cardinal of the Kremlin?
Red Storm Rising.
Mostly because of no Jack Ryan.
Jesus, I hate to say this, but CHUCK IS RIGHT. Hunt for Red October and The Cardinal of the Kremlin are indeed the only two good books written by Tom Clancy. I actually think TCOTK is my favourite.
Quote from: Tonker on May 01, 2010, 03:03:57 AM
Quote from: flannj on April 30, 2010, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 11:08:58 AM
Quote from: flannj on April 30, 2010, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Where do people put Hunt for Red October?
War-thriller?
Cold War-Scottish actor as Russian-thriller
(Also one of the only two good books written by Clancy)
#2 being Cardinal of the Kremlin?
Red Storm Rising.
Mostly because of no Jack Ryan.
Jesus, I hate to say this, but CHUCK IS RIGHT. Hunt for Red October and The Cardinal of the Kremlin are indeed the only two good books written by Tom Clancy. I actually think TCOTK is my favourite.
So nobody likes that one book he wrote that gave Osama the idea for 9/11?
Quote from: Tonker on May 01, 2010, 03:03:57 AM
Quote from: flannj on April 30, 2010, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 11:08:58 AM
Quote from: flannj on April 30, 2010, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Where do people put Hunt for Red October?
War-thriller?
Cold War-Scottish actor as Russian-thriller
(Also one of the only two good books written by Clancy)
#2 being Cardinal of the Kremlin?
Red Storm Rising.
Mostly because of no Jack Ryan.
Jesus, I hate to say this, but CHUCK IS RIGHT. Hunt for Red October and The Cardinal of the Kremlin are indeed the only two good books written by Tom Clancy. I actually think TCOTK is my favourite.
The
Cardinal of the Kremlin is his best in my opinion, although I'd put
Without Remorse up there as well.
Quote from: SKO on April 14, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
My complaint about a lack of Korean War films of a serious nature at least still stands.
Are you excluding
Korean (http://koreanfilm.org/warfilms.html) Korean War films?
Quote from: bozos72 on February 16, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
I mentioned it in the other thread, and it deserves mention in this one...
Dr Strangelove.
It's currently on Hulu to watch for free. (http://www.hulu.com/watch/142698/dr-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb)
Quote from: Day Man on May 02, 2010, 08:02:42 PM
Quote from: bozos72 on February 16, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
I mentioned it in the other thread, and it deserves mention in this one...
Dr Strangelove.
It's currently on Hulu to watch for free. (http://www.hulu.com/watch/142698/dr-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb)
You can't argue about that movie in here! This is the War Movie Thread!
Quote from: Day Man on May 02, 2010, 08:02:42 PM
Quote from: bozos72 on February 16, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
I mentioned it in the other thread, and it deserves mention in this one...
Dr Strangelove.
It's currently on Hulu to watch for free. (http://www.hulu.com/watch/142698/dr-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb)
Que Colossus: The Forbin Project (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7412690463406323384#).
Quote from: Wheezer on May 01, 2010, 10:39:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 14, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
My complaint about a lack of Korean War films of a serious nature at least still stands.
Are you excluding Korean (http://koreanfilm.org/warfilms.html) Korean War films?
I am. I'm disappointed by the lack of attention Hollywood has given it (in recent decades, Stew) compared to either WWII or Vietnam. I've seen a few good Korean Korean War films, Tae Guk Gi being the best.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 02, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: Day Man on May 02, 2010, 08:02:42 PM
Quote from: bozos72 on February 16, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
I mentioned it in the other thread, and it deserves mention in this one...
Dr Strangelove.
It's currently on Hulu to watch for free. (http://www.hulu.com/watch/142698/dr-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb)
You can't argue about that movie in here! This is the War Movie Thread!
FACE (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=4365.msg78869#msg78869)
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
Quote from: CBStew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
All three of these are awesome. The first two, if Gil hasn't seen them, he needs to. They'll remind him of a famous episode from his all time favorite show.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 02, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: Day Man on May 02, 2010, 08:02:42 PM
Quote from: bozos72 on February 16, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
I mentioned it in the other thread, and it deserves mention in this one...
Dr Strangelove.
It's currently on Hulu to watch for free. (http://www.hulu.com/watch/142698/dr-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb)
You can't argue about that movie in here! This is the War Movie Thread!
Well played.
Quote from: CBStew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
If it's good enough for Howard Hughes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du7ls7v2uYQ)....
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 03, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: CBStew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
All three of these are awesome. The first two, if Gil hasn't seen them, he needs to. They'll remind him of a famous episode from his all time favorite show.
Balance of Terror is the greatest episode of the original Star Trek, bar none. It's that, The City on the Edge of Forever, Mirror Mirror, and then a bunch of crap.
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 03, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: CBStew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
All three of these are awesome. The first two, if Gil hasn't seen them, he needs to. They'll remind him of a famous episode from his all time favorite show.
Balance of Terror is the greatest episode of the original Star Trek, bar none. It's that, The City on the Edge of Forever, Mirror Mirror, and then a bunch of crap.
I've always been partial to Spock's Brain and Sub Rosa. But those pale in comparison to all of Deep Sleep 9.
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 03, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: CBStew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
All three of these are awesome. The first two, if Gil hasn't seen them, he needs to. They'll remind him of a famous episode from his all time favorite show.
Balance of Terror is the greatest episode of the original Star Trek, bar none. It's that, The City on the Edge of Forever, Mirror Mirror, and then a bunch of crap.
And after all that crap, there's the hippie episode. Which is crap to the power of crap.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 17, 2010, 08:50:34 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 03, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: CBStew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
All three of these are awesome. The first two, if Gil hasn't seen them, he needs to. They'll remind him of a famous episode from his all time favorite show.
Balance of Terror is the greatest episode of the original Star Trek, bar none. It's that, The City on the Edge of Forever, Mirror Mirror, and then a bunch of crap.
And after all that crap, there's the hippie episode. Which is crap to the power of crap.
1. Balance of Terror
2. City on the Edge of Forever
3. Mirror, Mirror
4. The Doomsday Machine
5. Amok Time
6. The Enterprise Incident
The rest I could give two shits about. Never saw the appeal to the Trouble With Tribbles, although the Trials and Tribble-ations episode of DS9 was a pretty sweet tribute.
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2010, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 17, 2010, 08:50:34 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 03, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: CBStew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
All three of these are awesome. The first two, if Gil hasn't seen them, he needs to. They'll remind him of a famous episode from his all time favorite show.
Balance of Terror is the greatest episode of the original Star Trek, bar none. It's that, The City on the Edge of Forever, Mirror Mirror, and then a bunch of crap.
And after all that crap, there's the hippie episode. Which is crap to the power of crap.
1. Balance of Terror
2. City on the Edge of Forever
3. Mirror, Mirror
4. The Doomsday Machine
5. Amok Time
6. The Enterprise Incident
The rest I could give two shits about. Never saw the appeal to the Trouble With Tribbles, although the Trials and Tribble-ations episode of DS9 was a pretty sweet tribute.
Tribbles is fun, but not actually good.
The only thing I hate more than Hippies?
Space Hippies.
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2010, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 17, 2010, 08:50:34 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 03, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: CBStew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
Is there a separate thread for favorite submarine war movies?
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Das Boot
All three of these are awesome. The first two, if Gil hasn't seen them, he needs to. They'll remind him of a famous episode from his all time favorite show.
Balance of Terror is the greatest episode of the original Star Trek, bar none. It's that, The City on the Edge of Forever, Mirror Mirror, and then a bunch of crap.
And after all that crap, there's the hippie episode. Which is crap to the power of crap.
1. Balance of Terror
2. City on the Edge of Forever
3. Mirror, Mirror
4. The Doomsday Machine
5. Amok Time
6. The Enterprise Incident
The rest I could give two shits about. Never saw the appeal to the Trouble With Tribbles, although the Trials and Tribble-ations episode of DS9 was a pretty sweet tribute.
Corbomite Maneuver is very good, too.
I don't want to derail this great thread, but I completely agree with SKO's list.
Also, watch DS9. Best Trek ever.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 17, 2010, 09:45:31 AM
I don't want to derail this great thread, but I completely agree with SKO's list.
Also, watch DS9. Best Trek ever.
It's hard to agree. I totally agree that, content wise, DS9 was the best and the scale of what they did is astounding, but I don't see how anything can top the cast of TNG. The difference was the story arcs. Rodenberry and Berman had control of TNG and really didn't want long, overarching story arcs. Every episode had to essentially be a new adventure. Ronald D. Moore (the guy that made the new Battlestar Galactica, I believe) had pretty much free reign since Berman focused on Voyager, and he tried some pretty intense shit. Hard to top the Dominion War, but I still love the TNG characters and I would have liked to have seen what the TNG writers could have done without Rodenberry and then Berman scrutinizing their every move.
Ninja Assassin.
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2010, 09:51:51 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 17, 2010, 09:45:31 AM
I don't want to derail this great thread, but I completely agree with SKO's list.
Also, watch DS9. Best Trek ever.
It's hard to agree. I totally agree that, content wise, DS9 was the best and the scale of what they did is astounding, but I don't see how anything can top the cast of TNG. The difference was the story arcs. Rodenberry and Berman had control of TNG and really didn't want long, overarching story arcs. Every episode had to essentially be a new adventure. Ronald D. Moore (the guy that made the new Battlestar Galactica, I believe) had pretty much free reign since Berman focused on Voyager, and he tried some pretty intense shit. Hard to top the Dominion War, but I still love the TNG characters and I would have liked to have seen what the TNG writers could have done without Rodenberry and then Berman scrutinizing their every move.
I've got to agree with SKO as well regarding the TNG characters, Marina Sirtis excuded.
Easy to look at but a terrible actress.
And I positive any episode with Q.
Anyone see Talvisota or Come and See?
I'm having issues finding Talvisota on Netflix.
I just saw the 1998 version of The Thin Red LIne on the IFC channel. I don't know why I never saw this in a theater. I am sorry that I didn't. No plot, just the deadly grind of war and the seemingly endless supply of its victims. It renewed my respect for Nick Nolte as an actor. I can also understand why Jim Caviezel was cast as Christ in the Passion of the Christ 6 years after this movie was made.
Quote from: Taylor on February 16, 2007, 06:07:41 PM
Cold War movies:
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold
The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Well, I'm doing
Strategic Air Command, in which Dutch Holland moves from third to the mound and there are a lot of B-36 shots or something, to keep glued together tonight. Sky King, do not answer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3mlu1Sq8Pc).
[
Edit.--Oh. My. G-d. It's soft-core bomber porn with a soundtrack and plot to match. Do not do this.]