When Fontenot and Fukudome ride the pine, it's long ball time.
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 02:30:31 PM
When Fontenot and Fukudome ride the pine, it's long ball time.
...and short pop ups are hard to catch.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 12, 2010, 02:36:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 02:30:31 PM
When Fontenot and Fukudome ride the pine, it's long ball time.
...and short pop ups are hard to catch.
You're just butthurt because everyone's sick of your midget alumni forming a black hole of suck in the middle infield.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 12, 2010, 02:36:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 02:30:31 PM
When Fontenot and Fukudome ride the pine, it's long ball time.
...and short pop ups are hard to catch.
Definitely the first time this year that has been an issue.
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
Bake-O can Rake-O!
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 15, 2010, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
Bake-O can Rake-O!
Nope, too similar.
(http://woolis.com/images/2004SpringTRSP/04MESASpTr3-28%20013Bako.jpg)
Jeffrey Baker, the loud-out maker.
"Cubs GM Jim Hendry dismissed a report that said his team has considered releasing Alfonso Soriano and eating the nearly $90 million he's still owed.
Asked the question by Jim Memolo on Sirius XM, Hendry replied: "Never been a thought to it, Jimmy. Never been a thought to it. No. Those things are speculated by probably people in your profession, not ours." Of course, it's a ridiculous thought that the Cubs would release Soriano now.
Source: Chicago Tribune "
Rotoworld
Quote from: BH on April 16, 2010, 02:24:36 PM
"Cubs GM Jim Hendry dismissed a report that said his team has considered releasing Alfonso Soriano and eating the nearly $90 million he's still owed.
Asked the question by Jim Memolo on Sirius XM, Hendry replied: "Never been a thought to it, Jimmy. Never been a thought to it. No. Those things are speculated by probably people in your profession, not ours." Of course, it's a ridiculous thought that the Cubs would release Soriano now.
Source: Chicago Tribune "
Rotoworld
What does that have to do with Baker and Nady?
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2010, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: BH on April 16, 2010, 02:24:36 PM
"Cubs GM Jim Hendry dismissed a report that said his team has considered releasing Alfonso Soriano and eating the nearly $90 million he's still owed.
Asked the question by Jim Memolo on Sirius XM, Hendry replied: "Never been a thought to it, Jimmy. Never been a thought to it. No. Those things are speculated by probably people in your profession, not ours." Of course, it's a ridiculous thought that the Cubs would release Soriano now.
Source: Chicago Tribune "
Rotoworld
What does that have to do with Baker and Nady?
Since both can play LF you mean? Nothing.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
.299/.353/.556/.909 at Coors
.249/.306/.390/.696 everywhere else
yeah, only problem is, I think our park is called Wrigley
Quote from: SMan on April 16, 2010, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
.299/.353/.556/.909 at Coors
.249/.306/.390/.696 everywhere else
yeah, only problem is, I think our park is called Wrigley
A player who puts up dramatically better numbers at home than on the road? What a rarity!
Quote from: SMan on April 16, 2010, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
.299/.353/.556/.909 at Coors
.249/.306/.390/.696 everywhere else
yeah, only problem is, I think our park is called Wrigley
You own part of Wrigley? That must be a license to print money.
Quote from: Canadouche on April 16, 2010, 10:18:39 PM
A player who puts up dramatically better numbers at home than on the road? What a rarity!
Yeah, thats probably it! By the way, I have some land you might be interested in.
Quote from: Bort on April 17, 2010, 09:27:28 AM
You own part of Wrigley? That must be a license to print money.
Sigh...
Quote from: SMan on April 17, 2010, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 16, 2010, 10:18:39 PM
A player who puts up dramatically better numbers at home than on the road? What a rarity!
Yeah, thats probably it! By the way, I have some land you might be interested in.
Quote from: Bort on April 17, 2010, 09:27:28 AM
You own part of Wrigley? That must be a license to print money.
Sigh...
Chuckle.
Quote from: SMan on April 16, 2010, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
.299/.353/.556/.909 at Coors
.249/.306/.390/.696 everywhere else
yeah, only problem is, I think our park is called Wrigley
He's got an .823 OPS as a Cub. I'll take it for a super-utility platoon player. Don't make me side with Kurt, on anything, ever. You're on the list, pal.
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: SMan on April 16, 2010, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
.299/.353/.556/.909 at Coors
.249/.306/.390/.696 everywhere else
yeah, only problem is, I think our park is called Wrigley
He's got an .823 OPS as a Cub. I'll take it for a super-utility platoon player. Don't make me side with Kurt, on anything, ever.
No, no, youre right. I didnt realize he had hit .318/.349/.480/.829 over his first 243 PA with the Cubs. I clearly must bow down to that.
Shit! So sorry, it looks as though I gave the first 243 PA of Neifi Perez by mistake...
Uhhhh, make that 238 PA of .304/.357/.465/.823 for Baker
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 03:51:30 PM
You're on the list, pal.
to get cookies?
Quote from: SMan on April 17, 2010, 04:59:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: SMan on April 16, 2010, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point. Statistically, from a fielding perspective (the part I wasn't sure about), he's pretty average as an IF.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bakerje03.shtml
Sumbitch sure looks like he can hit.
.299/.353/.556/.909 at Coors
.249/.306/.390/.696 everywhere else
yeah, only problem is, I think our park is called Wrigley
He's got an .823 OPS as a Cub. I'll take it for a super-utility platoon player. Don't make me side with Kurt, on anything, ever.
No, no, youre right. I didnt realize he had hit .318/.349/.480/.829 over his first 243 PA with the Cubs. I clearly must bow down to that.
Shit! So sorry, it looks as though I gave the first 243 PA of Neifi Perez by mistake...
Uhhhh, make that 238 PA of .304/.357/.465/.823 for Baker
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 03:51:30 PM
You're on the list, pal.
to get cookies?
Neifi's career numbers -.267/.297/.375/.672
Jeff's- .270/.326/.460/.786.
So perhaps you can see why one was clearly a complete and total aberration from his career numbers, while the other is perhaps just a continuing improvement? Even if Baker regresses to his career average of .786 that's still good for someone I called a super-utility platoon player. He's also got a career OPS of .914 vs lefthanders. He's a nice player to have in the role that he plays, whereas Neifi was clearly a dogshit hitter in the midst of the best hot streak of his career. Also, Baker's spent his career in the post-humidor era of Coors Field. While still a hitter's park, the numbers have dropped considerably from the glory days and are more in line with just about any hitter's park in the majors. Of which Wrigley is one. And lo and behold, Baker has a .819 OPS at Wrigley. His career OPS+ (which adjusts for park factors) is 96, so around average, while it's 108 with the Cubs. Above average, but still within reasonable range of his career.
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
And lo and behold, Baker has a .819 OPS at Wrigley.
That.
.299/.353/.556/.909 (364 PA) at Coors
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley
That really ought to be the end of this.
Because, thing is, I think our park is called Wrigley.
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
that's still good for someone I called a super-utility platoon player.
Maybe you, but this is what I had replied to
"I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point."
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 17, 2010, 06:03:36 PM
That.
.299/.353/.556/.909 (364 PA) at Coors
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley
That really ought to be the end of this.
Because, thing is, I think our park is called Wrigley.
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley......... with a .357 BAbip
You're talking 39 hits, about 5 of which baseball history says he probably shouldn't have gotten. But what if he hadn't gotten those 5 extra singles? .258/.315/.432/.747
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
Also, Baker's spent his career in the post-humidor era of Coors Field. While still a hitter's park, the numbers have dropped considerably from the glory days and are more in line with just about any hitter's park in the majors.
Which is why I have started the
Trade for Garret Atkins and Clint Barmes website already
Look, I don't really care who gets you guys all wet. But Baker? Off about 250 PA with an overall .354 BAbip? Well, didnt we learn this exact lesson last season with Fonetnot?
But we're the Cubs, it will probably go right for us! :(
Quote from: SMan on April 17, 2010, 06:53:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
that's still good for someone I called a super-utility platoon player.
Maybe you, but this is what I had replied to
"I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point."
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 17, 2010, 06:03:36 PM
That.
.299/.353/.556/.909 (364 PA) at Coors
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley
That really ought to be the end of this.
Because, thing is, I think our park is called Wrigley.
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley......... with a .357 BAbip
You're talking 39 hits, about 5 of which baseball history says he probably shouldn't have gotten. But what if he hadn't gotten those 5 extra singles? .258/.315/.432/.747
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
Also, Baker's spent his career in the post-humidor era of Coors Field. While still a hitter's park, the numbers have dropped considerably from the glory days and are more in line with just about any hitter's park in the majors.
Which is why I have started the Trade for Garret Atkins and Clint Barmes website already
Look, I don't really care who gets you guys all wet. But Baker? Off about 250 PA with an overall .354 BAbip? Well, didnt we learn this exact lesson last season with Fonetnot?
But we're the Cubs, it will probably go right for us! :(
But this is a DIFFERENT mediocre white guy!
Quote from: SMan on April 17, 2010, 06:53:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
that's still good for someone I called a super-utility platoon player.
Maybe you, but this is what I had replied to
"I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point."
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 17, 2010, 06:03:36 PM
That.
.299/.353/.556/.909 (364 PA) at Coors
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley
That really ought to be the end of this.
Because, thing is, I think our park is called Wrigley.
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley......... with a .357 BAbip
You're talking 39 hits, about 5 of which baseball history says he probably shouldn't have gotten. But what if he hadn't gotten those 5 extra singles? .258/.315/.432/.747
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
Also, Baker's spent his career in the post-humidor era of Coors Field. While still a hitter's park, the numbers have dropped considerably from the glory days and are more in line with just about any hitter's park in the majors.
Which is why I have started the Trade for Garret Atkins and Clint Barmes website already
Look, I don't really care who gets you guys all wet. But Baker? Off about 250 PA with an overall .354 BAbip? Well, didnt we learn this exact lesson last season with Fonetnot?
But we're the Cubs, it will probably go right for us! :(
Slapfights like this are why I stopped going to NSBB.
A confession: I'm not the Cubs.
Quote from: fiveouts on April 17, 2010, 07:25:51 PM
Quote from: SMan on April 17, 2010, 06:53:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
that's still good for someone I called a super-utility platoon player.
Maybe you, but this is what I had replied to
"I've seen enough Jeff Baker over three months of baseball to know I'd like to see him on the field pretty much every day at this point."
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 14, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 17, 2010, 06:03:36 PM
That.
.299/.353/.556/.909 (364 PA) at Coors
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley
That really ought to be the end of this.
Because, thing is, I think our park is called Wrigley.
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley......... with a .357 BAbip
You're talking 39 hits, about 5 of which baseball history says he probably shouldn't have gotten. But what if he hadn't gotten those 5 extra singles? .258/.315/.432/.747
Quote from: SKO on April 17, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
Also, Baker's spent his career in the post-humidor era of Coors Field. While still a hitter's park, the numbers have dropped considerably from the glory days and are more in line with just about any hitter's park in the majors.
Which is why I have started the Trade for Garret Atkins and Clint Barmes website already
Look, I don't really care who gets you guys all wet. But Baker? Off about 250 PA with an overall .354 BAbip? Well, didnt we learn this exact lesson last season with Fonetnot?
But we're the Cubs, it will probably go right for us! :(
Slapfights like this are why I stopped going to NSBB.
Internet creed: when logic, reason, and evidence fly in the face of your opinions, you must troll a message board.
Quote from: SMan on April 17, 2010, 06:53:57 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 17, 2010, 06:03:36 PM
That.
.299/.353/.556/.909 (364 PA) at Coors
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley
That really ought to be the end of this.
Because, thing is, I think our park is called Wrigley.
.295/.350/.470/.819 (143 PA) at Wrigley......... with a .357 BAbip
You're talking 39 hits, about 5 of which baseball history says he probably shouldn't have gotten. But what if he hadn't gotten those 5 extra singles? .258/.315/.432/.747
So... what you're trying to say is that "I think our park is called Wrigley"
isn't the final word in this matter?
I suppose I'll take your word for it. But, before you start agitating in earnest for the Cubs to trade for more crummy Colorado white guys, remember: Al Alburquerques don't exactly grow on trees.
Quote from: Canadouche on April 17, 2010, 09:37:26 PM
Internet creed: when logic, reason, and evidence fly in the face of your opinions, you must troll a message board.
Wait a min, is this directed towards me? Am I not only being irrationally attacked, but now also called a troll because I pointed out Baker has a very Patterson-like .249/.306/.390/.696 line in 496 PA away from Coors??? Wow...
And the worst part? Let's just go along with it for a second. Lets say those whopping 39 hits at Wrigley leading to the 809 OPS means he is just not that bad here. What does that really mean? Doesnt that still leave us with 82 games where he sucks balls with the career .249/.306/.390/.696 road line? I mean even if he should somehow be expected to hit okay at Wrigley, isnt that still only half the games we play???
Seriously, what a stupid fucking straw-man argument you all brought...
"he might not completely suck balls when in Chicago, he only does that in the other 50% of the games - so you are wrong!" :/
Quote from: CT III on April 17, 2010, 07:17:08 PM
But this is a DIFFERENT mediocre white guy!
I think you nailed it
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You wouldn't be a teenage girl, would you?
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You wouldn't be a teenage girl, would you?
Hi.
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Quote from: Day Man on April 18, 2010, 12:52:47 AM
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You wouldn't be a teenage girl, would you?
Hi.
Get the fuck out of here, and stop cramping my style, asshole.
Quote from: SMan on April 17, 2010, 11:27:26 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 17, 2010, 09:37:26 PM
Internet creed: when logic, reason, and evidence fly in the face of your opinions, you must troll a message board.
Wait a min, is this directed towards me? Am I not only being irrationally attacked, but now also called a troll because I pointed out Baker has a very Patterson-like .249/.306/.390/.696 line in 496 PA away from Coors??? Wow...
And the worst part? Let's just go along with it for a second. Lets say those whopping 39 hits at Wrigley leading to the 809 OPS means he is just not that bad here. What does that really mean? Doesnt that still leave us with 82 games where he sucks balls with the career .249/.306/.390/.696 road line? I mean even if he should somehow be expected to hit okay at Wrigley, isnt that still only half the games we play???
Seriously, what a stupid fucking straw-man argument you all brought... "he might not completely suck balls when in Chicago, he only does that in the other 50% of the games - so you are wrong!"
:/
If you respond to a single throw-away comment with a rant, you must be ... eh, fuck it.
Quote from: Canadouche on April 18, 2010, 09:45:54 AM
If you respond to a single throw-away comment with a rant, you must be...
You must be KurtEvans?
Quote from: SMan on April 17, 2010, 06:53:57 PMLook, I don't really care who gets you guys all wet.
The thought of Samarja locked in a barn full of flames and horseplop gets my mangina sopping wet.
Kermit has a blog? Where are the articles for people to comment on? (http://deadspin.com/5532831/so-about-that-cubs+lighting+their+farts-story)
Quote from: Day Man on May 06, 2010, 05:33:26 PM
Kermit has a blog? Where are the articles for people to comment on? (http://deadspin.com/5532831/so-about-that-cubs+lighting+their+farts-story)
Did the Deadspin I-Team also factcheck the Will Leitch story on Bartman, which asserted Bartman went to the game alone, listened to Ron Santo call the game on the radio, and was so destitute he probably had to squirrel away whatever pennies he had to go to the game?
All of this is false.
Quote from: Day Man on May 06, 2010, 05:33:26 PM
Kermit has a blog? Where are the articles for people to comment on? (http://deadspin.com/5532831/so-about-that-cubs+lighting+their+farts-story)
For what it's worth, the fart story is, apparently, real. The guy who tipped it said that something big is coming along in the organization before the trade deadline. I can only assume this means they're going to trade Zambrano for Cesar Izturis and send Castro back down.
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 11:52:08 AM
Quote from: Day Man on May 06, 2010, 05:33:26 PM
Kermit has a blog? Where are the articles for people to comment on? (http://deadspin.com/5532831/so-about-that-cubs+lighting+their+farts-story)
For what it's worth, the fart story is, apparently, real. The guy who tipped it said that something big is coming along in the organization before the trade deadline. I can only assume this means they're going to trade Zambrano for Cesar Izturis and send Castro back down.
"Before the trade deadline" seems too specific. Could you get back to him and see if he could be more vague?
Quote from: R-V on May 10, 2010, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 11:52:08 AM
Quote from: Day Man on May 06, 2010, 05:33:26 PM
Kermit has a blog? Where are the articles for people to comment on? (http://deadspin.com/5532831/so-about-that-cubs+lighting+their+farts-story)
For what it's worth, the fart story is, apparently, real. The guy who tipped it said that something big is coming along in the organization before the trade deadline. I can only assume this means they're going to trade Zambrano for Cesar Izturis and send Castro back down.
"Before the trade deadline" seems too specific. Could you get back to him and see if he could be more vague?
"July," but he didn't say which year.
Quick, someone check with DEEP GOAT. Only then will I believe.
I remember the good ole days when we could believe rumors made up by SBoxers who knew people who knew players and when they took showers before plane flights to Baltimore. Frankfurters only cost a nickel, too.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 10, 2010, 03:20:49 PM
I remember the good ole days when we could believe rumors made up by SBoxers who knew people who knew players and when they took showers before plane flights to Baltimore. Frankfurters only cost a nickel, too.
How much were Garbanzo Beans?