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Title: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
Kerm's new boy toy apparently interviewed Scott Rolen and he had a few comments about Wrigley (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/2010/07/what-keeps-the-cubs-from-winning.html)

QuoteDK: You have played a lot of games here at Wrigley Field during your career. Why do you think the Cubs haven't been able to win here?

SCOTT ROLEN:

I think I don't know is probably the politically correct answer. True answer? The facts or the truth? The facts? The facts as I see it, I think they have their hands full a little bit. I think they're limited in their facilities here, their batting cage, I think it limits their work. A little restricted obviously in the clubhouse and their weight room. A lot of facilities that other teams have. They play a different schedule than everybody in baseball. There's three things in my mind that are facts. I don't know if that's the truth because to me there's a difference between the facts and the truth. Well it's a night game now basically. You sleep in during the day, you play a lot of night games and you struggle with travel days and everyone struggles with day games. They're playing 50, 55, 60 whatever day games a year. It's a different schedule. So I know for us coming here playing four day games, we're beat. That's their season. That's what they're doing. It puts their backs against the wall a little bit. They have good players, they have good personnel, they know how to play baseball. They have a good organization, but you know honestly I think it's difficult for them. Like I said, when we're talking about facilities everyone talks about Wrigley Field. Great atmosphere we love coming here, the fans, batting practice, everything. Fantastic, the ivy the whole works. I'm in. There's a lot in the game today, there's a lot of beautiful facilities. That are geared towards working, towards perfecting you know your skill, towards video, you know a lot of things have changed in the game and I'm not sure what the other side looks like but you know batting cages and stuff, I think are a bit restricted. They have to work pretty hard, they've got their hands full. But great place to play, everyone loves playing here and good personel, good ball club, good players.

Now, just because Rolen said it isn't the main reason I want it gone. I've hated Rolen ever since he played for St. Louis. Fuck him and everything about him. But, he is right about the facilities being shit. No reason a major league club needs to play in a building that can't even have normal, 1990s parking, has 5 male bathrooms for 40,000 people (probably 25-30,000 being men),  has obstructed views, and has no fucking jumbotron. Just burn the fucker down and move the field. Put it in CT's backyard or something.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: PenPho on July 12, 2010, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
Kerm's new boy toy apparently interviewed Scott Rolen and he had a few comments about Wrigley (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/2010/07/what-keeps-the-cubs-from-winning.html)

QuoteDK: You have played a lot of games here at Wrigley Field during your career. Why do you think the Cubs haven't been able to win here?

SCOTT ROLEN:

I think I don't know is probably the politically correct answer. True answer? The facts or the truth? The facts? The facts as I see it, I think they have their hands full a little bit. I think they're limited in their facilities here, their batting cage, I think it limits their work. A little restricted obviously in the clubhouse and their weight room. A lot of facilities that other teams have. They play a different schedule than everybody in baseball. There's three things in my mind that are facts. I don't know if that's the truth because to me there's a difference between the facts and the truth. Well it's a night game now basically. You sleep in during the day, you play a lot of night games and you struggle with travel days and everyone struggles with day games. They're playing 50, 55, 60 whatever day games a year. It's a different schedule. So I know for us coming here playing four day games, we're beat. That's their season. That's what they're doing. It puts their backs against the wall a little bit. They have good players, they have good personnel, they know how to play baseball. They have a good organization, but you know honestly I think it's difficult for them. Like I said, when we're talking about facilities everyone talks about Wrigley Field. Great atmosphere we love coming here, the fans, batting practice, everything. Fantastic, the ivy the whole works. I'm in. There's a lot in the game today, there's a lot of beautiful facilities. That are geared towards working, towards perfecting you know your skill, towards video, you know a lot of things have changed in the game and I'm not sure what the other side looks like but you know batting cages and stuff, I think are a bit restricted. They have to work pretty hard, they've got their hands full. But great place to play, everyone loves playing here and good personel, good ball club, good players.

Now, just because Rolen said it isn't the main reason I want it gone. I've hated Rolen ever since he played for St. Louis. Fuck him and everything about him. But, he is right about the facilities being shit. No reason a major league club needs to play in a building that can't even have normal, 1990s parking, has 5 male bathrooms for 40,000 people (probably 25-30,000 being men),  has obstructed views, and has no fucking jumbotron. Just burn the fucker down and move the field. Put it in CT's backyard or something.

I need this part explained to me, since I've heard it a bunch of times before but don't really get it.

If Day Games are much harder on the players since they're frequently coming off night games and on getaway days, wouldn't a team that has more day games be better equipped to handle them? If a team, like the Reds, is coming off an extended night game schedule, and has to come into Wrigley for 3 straight day games, wouldn't they be the ones who are less able to adapt?
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: BH on July 12, 2010, 01:03:31 PM
We're back to the our team sucks because of the shitty batting cages argument? Rudy's hands are tied people!
Explains why we're 19-27 on the road.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 12, 2010, 01:05:01 PM
Just build the mythical Triangle Building, install a shitload of Facilities, schedule a few more night games, and come up with new excuses.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: MAD on July 12, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

And how would one explain the fact that in 1984, the Cubs won a league-leading 96 games while playing all 81 home games under the torturous, unforgiving heliosphere?

Fuck everybody.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 12, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 12, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

And how would one explain the fact that in 1984, the Cubs won a league-leading 96 games while playing all 81 home games under the torturous, unforgiving heliosphere?

Fuck everybody.

I blame Dallas Green for the surprising success that was 1984.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on July 12, 2010, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 12, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 12, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

And how would one explain the fact that in 1984, the Cubs won a league-leading 96 games while playing all 81 home games under the torturous, unforgiving heliosphere?

Fuck everybody.

I blame Dallas Green for the surprising success that was 1984.

You would.

Thank God Hendry won't be ruining your ability to hate this team anytime soon, right?
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 12, 2010, 02:46:28 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 12, 2010, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 12, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 12, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

And how would one explain the fact that in 1984, the Cubs won a league-leading 96 games while playing all 81 home games under the torturous, unforgiving heliosphere?

Fuck everybody.

I blame Dallas Green for the surprising success that was 1984.

You would.

Thank God Hendry won't be ruining your ability to hate this team anytime soon, right?

You didn't see what I did there.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 12, 2010, 02:46:28 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 12, 2010, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 12, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 12, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

And how would one explain the fact that in 1984, the Cubs won a league-leading 96 games while playing all 81 home games under the torturous, unforgiving heliosphere?

Fuck everybody.

I blame Dallas Green for the surprising success that was 1984.

You would.

Thank God Hendry won't be ruining your ability to hate this team anytime soon, right?

You didn't see what I did there.

I think he did.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

I'm not of the thinking that the Cubs can't win in that park or under that schedule. It's just kind of pathetic. A $1 billion dollar franchise or whatever Ricketts paid and they're not even in the top 20 in facilities. $135 million dollar team on the field, but I wouldn't even pay that much for the park. It's ancient. My step-dad and I were talking about it over the weekend and he has been making me sad lately. He is over the mindset that the Cubs won't win in that park. Same goes for Santo. He doesn't think they'll win with him announcing. Both are ridiculous, but both things are pretty sad subjects for the Cubs.

Now, if I remember correctly, there are ordinances in place that limit the amount of night games they can play, correct? I know about the Friday/Saturday one, but I was thinking there was another one. It just seems retarded that a major league club can't schedule games how they'd like to, if that is the case. I don't think the day games adversely affect the Cubs but I would have to think that even though they usually do well selling out games, they'd be able to make more money during games  if they're at night (increased viewership, etc).

Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Eli on July 12, 2010, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.

I don't know, but this seems like the kind of thing some people around here aren't going to let go of anytime soon.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 12, 2010, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.

I don't know, but this seems like the kind of thing some people around here aren't going to let go of anytime soon.

Based off of this place's track record of not accusing people of liking another team for appreciating one facet of them, I disagree.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: PenPho on July 12, 2010, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 12, 2010, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.

I don't know, but this seems like the kind of thing some people around here aren't going to let go of anytime soon.

Not only does Yeti prefer the Cardinals, their stadium and their fans, but Missouri's long history of looking the other way regarding sexual relations with minors was really the tipping point. 
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on July 12, 2010, 03:08:42 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 12, 2010, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.

I don't know, but this seems like the kind of thing some people around here aren't going to let go of anytime soon.

Based off of this place's track record of not accusing people of liking another team for appreciating one facet of them, I disagree.

*IAN and Irish Yeti go to lots of Cardinals games together.  Because they are both huge Cardinal fans.

Also, now we know why Ricketts is keeping Hendry around.  The Cubs don't suck because the GM built a shitty team.  They suck because no one can win in a park with outdated facilities where they play a lot of day games.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Bort on July 12, 2010, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 12, 2010, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.

I don't know, but this seems like the kind of thing some people around here aren't going to let go of anytime soon.
This is just a vain attempt to cover up his love of tweens.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: MAD on July 12, 2010, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 12, 2010, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.

I don't know, but this seems like the kind of thing some people around here aren't going to let go of anytime soon.

Based off of this place's track record of not accusing people of liking another team for appreciating one facet of them taking the smallest exposed weakness and working it like it was Annabel Chong, I disagree.

Regardless of whatever the truth really is'd.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on July 12, 2010, 03:19:34 PM
When it comes down to it, the park is for the fans.  The players make/don't make the plays on virtually the same grass and dirt that all other MLB teams do, regardless of it being night and day.  I can't believe that there are people dumb enough to blame Wrigley Field, no matter how shitty they might think it is, and the day/night schedule for the Cubs losing.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Brownie on July 12, 2010, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

I'm not of the thinking that the Cubs can't win in that park or under that schedule. It's just kind of pathetic. A $1 billion dollar franchise or whatever Ricketts paid and they're not even in the top 20 in facilities. $135 million dollar team on the field, but I wouldn't even pay that much for the park. It's ancient. My step-dad and I were talking about it over the weekend and he has been making me sad lately. He is over the mindset that the Cubs won't win in that park. Same goes for Santo. He doesn't think they'll win with him announcing. Both are ridiculous, but both things are pretty sad subjects for the Cubs.

Now, if I remember correctly, there are ordinances in place that limit the amount of night games they can play, correct? I know about the Friday/Saturday one, but I was thinking there was another one. It just seems retarded that a major league club can't schedule games how they'd like to, if that is the case. I don't think the day games adversely affect the Cubs but I would have to think that even though they usually do well selling out games, they'd be able to make more money during games  if they're at night (increased viewership, etc).

Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.


Your friends own a plane together, they excluded you from fractional ownership, they're Cardinals fans, and you're still friends with them? And you would be happy to learn that their plane crashed?
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: MAD on July 12, 2010, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 12, 2010, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

I'm not of the thinking that the Cubs can't win in that park or under that schedule. It's just kind of pathetic. A $1 billion dollar franchise or whatever Ricketts paid and they're not even in the top 20 in facilities. $135 million dollar team on the field, but I wouldn't even pay that much for the park. It's ancient. My step-dad and I were talking about it over the weekend and he has been making me sad lately. He is over the mindset that the Cubs won't win in that park. Same goes for Santo. He doesn't think they'll win with him announcing. Both are ridiculous, but both things are pretty sad subjects for the Cubs.

Now, if I remember correctly, there are ordinances in place that limit the amount of night games they can play, correct? I know about the Friday/Saturday one, but I was thinking there was another one. It just seems retarded that a major league club can't schedule games how they'd like to, if that is the case. I don't think the day games adversely affect the Cubs but I would have to think that even though they usually do well selling out games, they'd be able to make more money during games  if they're at night (increased viewership, etc).

Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.


Your friends own a plane together, they excluded you from fractional ownership, they're Cardinals fans, and you're still friends with them? And you would be happy to learn that their plane crashed?

Yeti wants a winner that badly.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Bort on July 12, 2010, 03:39:20 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 12, 2010, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 12, 2010, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 12, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him.  

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

I'm not of the thinking that the Cubs can't win in that park or under that schedule. It's just kind of pathetic. A $1 billion dollar franchise or whatever Ricketts paid and they're not even in the top 20 in facilities. $135 million dollar team on the field, but I wouldn't even pay that much for the park. It's ancient. My step-dad and I were talking about it over the weekend and he has been making me sad lately. He is over the mindset that the Cubs won't win in that park. Same goes for Santo. He doesn't think they'll win with him announcing. Both are ridiculous, but both things are pretty sad subjects for the Cubs.

Now, if I remember correctly, there are ordinances in place that limit the amount of night games they can play, correct? I know about the Friday/Saturday one, but I was thinking there was another one. It just seems retarded that a major league club can't schedule games how they'd like to, if that is the case. I don't think the day games adversely affect the Cubs but I would have to think that even though they usually do well selling out games, they'd be able to make more money during games  if they're at night (increased viewership, etc).

Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.


Your friends own a plane together, they excluded you from fractional ownership, they're Cardinals fans, and you're still friends with them? And you would be happy to learn that their plane crashed?

Yeti wants a winner pre-teen slampiece that badly.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 12, 2010, 03:32:42 PM
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Didn't this story come out like a week ago when the Reds were in town? I know it did but I think I still don't give a shit enough to find it with a week-old dateline.

And since Rolen is probably the only person in baseball who hates the Genius more than I do, and we have mutual friends in So. Indiana, I'm fine with him. 

It did. I don't think day games are the reason the Cubs haven't won in a century. That's idiotic.

I’m not of the thinking that the Cubs can’t win in that park or under that schedule. It’s just kind of pathetic. A $1 billion dollar franchise or whatever Ricketts paid and they’re not even in the top 20 in facilities. $135 million dollar team on the field, but I wouldn’t even pay that much for the park. It’s ancient. My step-dad and I were talking about it over the weekend and he has been making me sad lately. He is over the mindset that the Cubs won’t win in that park. Same goes for Santo. He doesn’t think they’ll win with him announcing. Both are ridiculous, but both things are pretty sad subjects for the Cubs.

Now, if I remember correctly, there are ordinances in place that limit the amount of night games they can play, correct? I know about the Friday/Saturday one, but I was thinking there was another one. It just seems retarded that a major league club can’t schedule games how they’d like to, if that is the case. I don’t think the day games adversely affect the Cubs but I would have to think that even though they usually do well selling out games, they’d be able to make more money during games  if they’re at night (increased viewership, etc).

Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it’s closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don’t mind it per se. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn’t a chore. It’s a good park that’s easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn’t have a bad seat in the house.


Your friends own a plane together, they excluded you from fractional ownership, they're Cardinals fans, and you're still friends with them? And you would be happy to learn that their plane crashed?

I thought that y'all had downstate-English translators on your computers.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: R-V on July 12, 2010, 03:55:22 PM
The terrible player facilities and the playing of day games are two separate issues. The first one is pathetic for a team with this much money and should be fixed. The second one is a lame excuse used by people who hate America, tolerate bullshit, think Busch Stadium makes a mean waffle fry, or all of the above.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 03:59:25 PM
Quote from: R-V on July 12, 2010, 03:55:22 PM
The terrible player facilities and the playing of day games are two separate issues. The first one is pathetic for a team with this much money and should be fixed. The second one is a lame excuse used by people who hate America, tolerate bullshit, think Busch Stadium makes a mean waffle fry, or all of the above.

You think I pay for food at the stadium? With drywall costs what they are, I bring my own shit in there.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Bort on July 12, 2010, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 03:59:25 PM
Quote from: R-V on July 12, 2010, 03:55:22 PM
The terrible player facilities and the playing of day games are two separate issues. The first one is pathetic for a team with this much money and should be fixed. The second one is a lame excuse used by people who hate America, tolerate bullshit, think Busch Stadium makes a mean waffle fry, or all of the above.

You think I pay for food at the stadium? With drywall costs what they are, I bring my own shit in there.
How much is bologna downstate?
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 12, 2010, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 03:59:25 PM
Quote from: R-V on July 12, 2010, 03:55:22 PM
The terrible player facilities and the playing of day games are two separate issues. The first one is pathetic for a team with this much money and should be fixed. The second one is a lame excuse used by people who hate America, tolerate bullshit, think Busch Stadium makes a mean waffle fry, or all of the above.

You think I pay for food at the stadium? With drywall costs what they are, I bring my own shit in there.
How much is bologna downstate?

Next to free.
Title: Re: Wrigley Field should die a horrible, horrible death
Post by: Wheezer on July 12, 2010, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 12, 2010, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
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Quote from: Yeti on July 12, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Another thing that seems dumb is the fact that the Cardinals have a park that puts the Cubs to shame. The last Busch Stadium was even worlds better than Wrigley. The current park is really nice. Very roomy. Nice spots (the area out in Centerfield is really cool). I am there more than Wrigley, as it's closer and my friends are primarily Cardinal fans, but I don't mind it per se. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would be extremely happy if I saw that their plane crashed, but going there isn't a chore. It's a good park that's easy to get to, easy to park at, and doesn't have a bad seat in the house.

I don't know, but this seems like the kind of thing some people around here aren't going to let go of anytime soon.

Based off of this place's track record of not accusing people of liking another team for appreciating one facet of them taking the smallest exposed weakness and working it like it was Annabel Chong, I disagree.

Regardless of whatever the truth really is'd.

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