Begin the clusterfuck (local edition) anew...
I won't support anyone who doesn't pay their city sticker fee, I'll tell you that.
Did he buy a Senate seat?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
I won't support anyone who doesn't pay their city sticker fee, I'll tell you that.
Well, I won't support anyone who doesn't pay for their premium cable channels.
Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2010, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
I won't support anyone who doesn't pay their city sticker fee, I'll tell you that.
Well, I won't support anyone who doesn't pay for their premium cable channels.
I told you, I thought the cop was a prostitute.
::lights illegal Cuban cragar::
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 04:23:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2010, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
I won't support anyone who doesn't pay their city sticker fee, I'll tell you that.
Well, I won't support anyone who doesn't pay for their premium cable channels.
I told you, I thought the cop was a prostitute.
::lights illegal Cuban cragar::
What the fuck? (http://www.cragar.com/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1)
Quote from: Oleg on September 07, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 04:23:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2010, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
I won't support anyone who doesn't pay their city sticker fee, I'll tell you that.
Well, I won't support anyone who doesn't pay for their premium cable channels.
I told you, I thought the cop was a prostitute.
::lights illegal Cuban cragar::
What the fuck? (http://www.cragar.com/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1)
Just forget it.
Not worth it at all.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 07, 2010, 05:02:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 07, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 04:23:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2010, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
I won't support anyone who doesn't pay their city sticker fee, I'll tell you that.
Well, I won't support anyone who doesn't pay for their premium cable channels.
I told you, I thought the cop was a prostitute.
::lights illegal Cuban cragar::
What the fuck? (http://www.cragar.com/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1)
Just forget it.
Not worth it at all.
It was a semi-Yetian moment for Mr. LA
I'm just so happy that Oleg did his due diligence and went and looked "cragar" up. Well done, good sir.
::lights up another cragar whilst typing this on the iPad.::
All of this: (http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2010/09/sun-to-set-on-bridgeport-empire.html)
QuoteSo why did this happen?
My guess is money.
Needless to say, no one who knows is willing to talk on the record, but everyone who works for the Man on the Fifth Floor knows that Chicago city government is in real financial trouble.
My guess is money...because the City is literally in hock, and it will very shortly no longer be able to pay the vig and continue to provide even minimal services without selling off the parks, the water, the sky, the air, the neighborhoods of Pilsen, Roger's Park and Austin...and all those pretty median-strip planters that for some reason we needed.
My guess is money...because the special, one-time-only pots of cash Daley got by selling off the city's Skyway and parking meters (at pawn-shop rates) and which were supposed to last for decades have instead been used to keep the Hizzoner's Administration propped up for a couple of years and is now all but gone. And the Olympics money-tide ain't coming to raise all of our boats.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
I'm just so happy that Oleg did his due diligence and went and looked "cragar" up. Well done, good sir.
::lights up another cragar whilst typing this on the iPad.::
I'm nothing if not very thourough.
Very thourough.
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
Certainly. He won't get support, tho. The deal makers hated him because he was a no-corruption guy. They dumped him when he ran for governor. What did we get?
Blago.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 08, 2010, 08:50:48 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
Certainly. He won't get support, tho. The deal makers hated him because he was a no-corruption guy. They dumped him when he ran for governor. What did we get?
Blago.
Yes, but just barely. Vallas didn't get support of the machine elders in 2002 but he still nearly pulled it off.
Quote from: Oleg on September 08, 2010, 08:39:33 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
I'm just so happy that Oleg did his due diligence and went and looked "cragar" up. Well done, good sir.
::lights up another cragar whilst typing this on the iPad.::
I'm nothing if not very thourough. Very thourough.
Shut up, Paul...
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:55:59 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 08, 2010, 08:50:48 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
Certainly. He won't get support, tho. The deal makers hated him because he was a no-corruption guy. They dumped him when he ran for governor. What did we get?
Blago.
Yes, but just barely. Vallas didn't get support of the machine elders in 2002 but he still nearly pulled it off.
Maybe Ryno will return and run the city while somebody else manages the Cubs. What about Ditka? Amirite? I'd vote Ditka in a heartbeat.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2010, 09:48:57 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:55:59 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 08, 2010, 08:50:48 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
Certainly. He won't get support, tho. The deal makers hated him because he was a no-corruption guy. They dumped him when he ran for governor. What did we get?
Blago.
Yes, but just barely. Vallas didn't get support of the machine elders in 2002 but he still nearly pulled it off.
Maybe Ryno will return and run the city while somebody else manages the Cubs. What about Ditka? Amirite? I'd vote Ditka in a heartbeat.
If Ditka wouldn't take on Obama in 2004, he ain't taking Da' Mare's jorb in 2012.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 08, 2010, 09:50:49 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2010, 09:48:57 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:55:59 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 08, 2010, 08:50:48 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
Certainly. He won't get support, tho. The deal makers hated him because he was a no-corruption guy. They dumped him when he ran for governor. What did we get?
Blago.
Yes, but just barely. Vallas didn't get support of the machine elders in 2002 but he still nearly pulled it off.
Maybe Ryno will return and run the city while somebody else manages the Cubs. What about Ditka? Amirite? I'd vote Ditka in a heartbeat.
If Ditka wouldn't take on Obama in 2004, he ain't taking Da' Mare's jorb in 2012.
I don't think Obama's running for Mayor of Chicago in 2012, so it's not even close to the same situation.
Quote from: Oleg on September 08, 2010, 08:39:33 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
I'm just so happy that Oleg did his due diligence and went and looked "cragar" up. Well done, good sir.
::lights up another cragar whilst typing this on the iPad.::
I'm nothing if not very thourough. Very thourough.
Oleg will leave no 'u' untyped.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 08, 2010, 10:17:37 AM
Quote from: Oleg on September 08, 2010, 08:39:33 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
I'm just so happy that Oleg did his due diligence and went and looked "cragar" up. Well done, good sir.
::lights up another cragar whilst typing this on the iPad.::
I'm nothing if not very thourough. Very thourough.
Oleg will leave no 'u' untyped.
Thouroughly un-untyped.
So pretty much whoever takes the job is a sacrificial lamb, right? They'll be unable to stem the coming tidal wave of debt recollection, get slammed on a regular basis, and summarily dismissed. Maybe I would vote for Blago-at least he'll bring the entertaining crazy.
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
Quote from: fiveouts on September 08, 2010, 11:15:59 AM
So pretty much whoever takes the job is a sacrificial lamb, right? They'll be unable to stem the coming tidal wave of debt recollection, get slammed on a regular basis, and summarily dismissed. Maybe I would vote for Blago-at least he'll bring the entertaining crazy.
That person will also get to deal with a City Council that will have new found power.
Quote from: JakeD on September 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
You bring up Rahm, and putting aside my personal opinion of him, does he really have a chance to be mayor? When he ran for Congress in the 5th, whom did he really run against? Remember, a lot of people are going to be running and identity politics at its racist worst was becoming a great Chicago tradition until Daley got his stranglehold on the office.
Quote from: Brownie on September 08, 2010, 04:51:49 PM
Quote from: JakeD on September 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
You bring up Rahm, and putting aside my personal opinion of him, does he really have a chance to be mayor? When he ran for Congress in the 5th, whom did he really run against? Remember, a lot of people are going to be running and identity politics at its racist worst was becoming a great Chicago tradition until Daley got his stranglehold on the office.
Nancy Kazak (sp.?)
That seat has always been in the Machine's control so you're right--it doesn't matter what kind of race you run so long as you've been appointed by the powers-that-be.
Also, replace the date, and imagine that Daley died instead of retiring, and this article rings as true today as it did when Royko wrote it. (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/177807,CST-NWS-royko19.article)
Quote from: Brownie on September 08, 2010, 04:51:49 PM
You bring up Rahm, and putting aside my personal opinion of him, does he really have a chance to be mayor?
I really can't see how.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 08, 2010, 05:09:04 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 08, 2010, 04:51:49 PM
You bring up Rahm, and putting aside my personal opinion of him, does he really have a chance to be mayor?
I really can't see how.
If Daley's hacks and money men want Rahm, he'll have an excellent chance.
Rahm has a huge moneybags partner in Dom Tomczak. Who is also a crook (http://www.b12partners.net/mt/archives/2006/11/emanuel-tomczak-and-the-chicago-machine.html).
This is going to be fun to watch.
Quote from: Oleg on September 08, 2010, 08:39:33 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
I'm just so happy that Oleg did his due diligence and went and looked "cragar" up. Well done, good sir.
::lights up another cragar whilst typing this on the iPad.::
I'm nothing if not very thourough. Very thourough.
But are you a good man?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 08, 2010, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 08, 2010, 08:39:33 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
I'm just so happy that Oleg did his due diligence and went and looked "cragar" up. Well done, good sir.
::lights up another cragar whilst typing this on the iPad.::
I'm nothing if not very thourough. Very thourough.
But are you a good man?
When I saw you'd posted in this thread, I assumed Chicago was calling up Pittsburgh's mayor from the municipal minor leagues.
Quote from: Night Man on September 08, 2010, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 08, 2010, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 08, 2010, 08:39:33 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 07, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
I'm just so happy that Oleg did his due diligence and went and looked "cragar" up. Well done, good sir.
::lights up another cragar whilst typing this on the iPad.::
I'm nothing if not very thourough. Very thourough.
But are you a good man?
When I saw you'd posted in this thread, I assumed Chicago was calling up Pittsburgh's mayor from the municipal minor leagues.
Well, I laughed. Like really loudly.
Quote from: JakeD on September 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
This.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on September 09, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: JakeD on September 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
This.
So it's settled then. Ditka.
Quote from: R-V on September 09, 2010, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on September 09, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: JakeD on September 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
This.
So it's settled then. Ditka.
Or Ricky Gutierrrez.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on September 09, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: JakeD on September 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
This.
Agreed. Just a regular ol' white guy then, and none of them minorities.
Quote from: Shooter on September 09, 2010, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on September 09, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: JakeD on September 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
This.
Agreed. Just a regular ol' white guy then, and none of them minorities.
Frankly, their endorsement of some swarthy, olive-munching, goat-shagging kiddie-diddler is already pushing the boundaries of my comfort zone.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 09, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 09, 2010, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on September 09, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: JakeD on September 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Would anyone else besides me like to see Paul Vallas return to Chicago to make a run?
I would be for Vallas or anyone not named Rahm Emanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr or Luis Gutierrez.
This.
Agreed. Just a regular ol' white guy then, and none of them minorities.
Frankly, their endorsement of some swarthy, olive-munching, goat-shagging kiddie-diddler is already pushing the boundaries of my comfort zone.
When did Cal Skinner Jr. enter the race?