Might as well get this thing up and running well before game time. Football.
FOOT
BAW
Hopefully the first game of an entire season of dominance by the offensive line. And Jay Cutler. And the D. And everyone.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 08, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
FOOT
BAW
Hopefully the first game of an entire season of dominance by the offensive line. And Jay Cutler. And the D. And everyone.
I'm hoping for a major progression out of you this season too. I'm allowed to be optimistic. SKO said it's ok.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2011, 07:42:29 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 08, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
FOOT
BAW
Hopefully the first game of an entire season of dominance by the offensive line. And Jay Cutler. And the D. And everyone.
I'm hoping for a major progression out of you this season too. I'm allowed to be optimistic. SKO said it's ok.
I predicted 11-5 through all of the doom last year. Also said 6-10 for the Vikings. I will never not remind you all of this. Because I'm now taking that as evidence that I'm right about everything ever.
If Briggs gets fined for wearing this awesomeness (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-briggs-expects-fine-for-wearing-commemorative-911-gear-20110909,0,1244856.story) then we'll know once and for all that Roger Goodell hates the troops and freedom.
(http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2011-09/245491080-09062624.jpg)
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2011, 07:43:19 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2011, 07:42:29 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 08, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
FOOT
BAW
Hopefully the first game of an entire season of dominance by the offensive line. And Jay Cutler. And the D. And everyone.
I'm hoping for a major progression out of you this season too. I'm allowed to be optimistic. SKO said it's ok.
I predicted 11-5 through all of the doom last year. Also said 6-10 for the Vikings. I will never not remind you all of this. Because I'm now taking that as evidence that I'm right about everything ever.
What's your prediction for this year?
Quote from: morpheus on September 09, 2011, 10:43:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2011, 07:43:19 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2011, 07:42:29 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 08, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
FOOT
BAW
Hopefully the first game of an entire season of dominance by the offensive line. And Jay Cutler. And the D. And everyone.
I'm hoping for a major progression out of you this season too. I'm allowed to be optimistic. SKO said it's ok.
I predicted 11-5 through all of the doom last year. Also said 6-10 for the Vikings. I will never not remind you all of this. Because I'm now taking that as evidence that I'm right about everything ever.
What's your prediction for this year?
He'll let you know after the season is over.
I didn't like Utler's body language on that late-hit no-call.
Quote from: CT III on September 11, 2011, 12:34:05 PM
I didn't like Utler's body language on that late-hit no-call.
or his attitude on the drive after it
Quote from: thehawk on September 11, 2011, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 11, 2011, 12:34:05 PM
I didn't like Utler's body language on that late-hit no-call.
or his attitude on the drive after it
One thing's for sure - Brian Urlacher is too old for this shit.
DPD - Charles Tillman (Fuck You) is the greatest punch-out artist in modern football history.
Let's see how powerful my jinx is: the Bears look really good.
Wouldn't be BEAR FOOTBALL without a moronic challenge. Never change, Lovie.
The d line is kicking ass all over the field today.
I expect that TDubbs feels duly chastened after that game.
Hank Melton is a fucking beast. Other than Webb and Carimi looking pretty bad for most of the game I am happy as a pig-shaped clam in pigshit about what we saw today. Will Peter King revise his Super Bowl pick now? Possibly maybe.
Quote from: R-V on September 11, 2011, 03:33:43 PM
Hank Melton is a fucking beast. Other than Webb and Carimi looking pretty bad for most of the game I am happy as a pig-shaped clam in pigshit about what we saw today. Will Peter King revise his Super Bowl pick now? Possibly maybe.
Just think how bad the beating would of been if TIM SHAW were still on the team.
Quote from: R-V on September 11, 2011, 03:33:43 PM
Hank Melton is a fucking beast. Other than Webb and Carimi looking pretty bad for most of the game I am happy as a pig-shaped clam in pigshit about what we saw today. Will Peter King revise his Super Bowl pick now? Possibly maybe.
Webb is really good at holding. Top 5 in the league, I bet.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 11, 2011, 04:52:55 PM
Quote from: R-V on September 11, 2011, 03:33:43 PM
Hank Melton is a fucking beast. Other than Webb and Carimi looking pretty bad for most of the game I am happy as a pig-shaped clam in pigshit about what we saw today. Will Peter King revise his Super Bowl pick now? Possibly maybe.
Webb is really good at holding. Top 5 in the league, I bet.
That was a fucking awesome game. The offensive line was better than the sacks made them look. Webb had some issues and so did Carimi but I wouldn't say they looked bad most of the game. Cutler had time to throw and he had at least 6 seconds on 2 of those sacks in which to throw the ball away. The Cover 2 worked to perfection today. They dared Matt Ryan to try and beat them downfield and he was too scared. That was the weakest 300 yard passing game I've ever seen from an opposing QB. The run game looked good until they took out Forte to keep him from getting hurt in a blowout during his contract year. The defensive line was the strongest unit on the field as I had hoped. As for my prediction for this season I had them at 12-4. So we'll see. I think if they beat either the Saints or Packers in the next two weeks they make the playoffs no problem. If they win both they win the division.
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
I hope you were trying to channel Fro there, because anybody even remotely concerned about the yardage (especially since Matt Ryan had I think only 123 yards before the score was 30-6 and the defense went full on prevent) is beyond a total dipshit. The points, sacks, and turnovers are all Lovie cares about. Matt Ryan finished with just 6.8 YPA. As a team they only gained 5.9 yards per pass play. Yardage totals don't really mean shit for a Tampa Two defense. They stonewalled them in the red zone, and Charles Tillman dominated Roddy White.
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
I hope you were trying to channel Fro there, because anybody even remotely concerned about the yardage (especially since Matt Ryan had I think only 123 yards before the score was 30-6 and the defense went full on prevent) is beyond a total dipshit. The points, sacks, and turnovers are all Lovie cares about. Matt Ryan finished with just 6.8 YPA. As a team they only gained 5.9 yards per pass play. Yardage totals don't really mean shit for a Tampa Two defense. They stonewalled them in the red zone, and Charles Tillman (Fuck You) dominated Roddy White.
Fro'd.
Yeah, how in the blue fuck could you say the Bears played poorly against the hurry-up when they gave up only six points and Atlanta complete abandoned it at the half because it, well, wasn't working?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 11, 2011, 10:20:07 PM
Yeah, how in the blue fuck could you say the Bears played poorly against the hurry-up when they gave up only six points and Atlanta complete abandoned it at the half because it, well, wasn't working?
I think he means the hurry up as in the part where Atlanta was in the hurry up and got a lot of yards underneath the coverage after they were up 30-6 and they dropped seven deep every play. So, you know, the part where the game was meaningless and nothing matters but not giving up touchdowns. Cool that they pummeled Matt Ryan with just the front four the whole game. If they can get that kinda pressure with just four against Green Bay and New Orleans the defense should be able to contain Brees and Rodgers.
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2011, 10:37:35 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 11, 2011, 10:20:07 PM
Yeah, how in the blue fuck could you say the Bears played poorly against the hurry-up when they gave up only six points and Atlanta complete abandoned it at the half because it, well, wasn't working?
I think he means the hurry up as in the part where Atlanta was in the hurry up and got a lot of yards underneath the coverage after they were up 30-6 and they dropped seven deep every play. So, you know, the part where the game was meaningless and nothing matters but not giving up touchdowns. Cool that they pummeled Matt Ryan with just the front four the whole game. If they can get that kinda pressure with just four against Green Bay and New Orleans the defense should be able to contain Brees and Rodgers.
A real defense like the one the Packers have NEVER gives up yards or points. That's the type of gutless bullshit that they won't tolerate on real teams.
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
I hope you were trying to channel Fro there, because anybody even remotely concerned about the yardage (especially since Matt Ryan had I think only 123 yards before the score was 30-6 and the defense went full on prevent) is beyond a total dipshit. The points, sacks, and turnovers are all Lovie cares about. Matt Ryan finished with just 6.8 YPA. As a team they only gained 5.9 yards per pass play. Yardage totals don't really mean shit for a Tampa Two defense. They stonewalled them in the red zone, and Charles Tillman dominated Roddy White.
If by "channel" you mean "copy and paste", then yeah.
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 10:50:51 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
I hope you were trying to channel Fro there, because anybody even remotely concerned about the yardage (especially since Matt Ryan had I think only 123 yards before the score was 30-6 and the defense went full on prevent) is beyond a total dipshit. The points, sacks, and turnovers are all Lovie cares about. Matt Ryan finished with just 6.8 YPA. As a team they only gained 5.9 yards per pass play. Yardage totals don't really mean shit for a Tampa Two defense. They stonewalled them in the red zone, and Charles Tillman dominated Roddy White.
If by "channel" you mean "copy and paste", then yeah.
Sigh. I went over there. God dammit, Fro. Oh well, at least he admits that he actually enjoyed the game. God, next Sunday is too fucking far away. Also, my preseason Melton boner was thoroughly justified today. Every time I see him play I think of John Randle, who was one of a very select few Minnesota Vikings I didn't despise.
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2011, 11:01:52 PM
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Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
I hope you were trying to channel Fro there, because anybody even remotely concerned about the yardage (especially since Matt Ryan had I think only 123 yards before the score was 30-6 and the defense went full on prevent) is beyond a total dipshit. The points, sacks, and turnovers are all Lovie cares about. Matt Ryan finished with just 6.8 YPA. As a team they only gained 5.9 yards per pass play. Yardage totals don't really mean shit for a Tampa Two defense. They stonewalled them in the red zone, and Charles Tillman dominated Roddy White.
If by "channel" you mean "copy and paste", then yeah.
Sigh. I went over there. God dammit, Fro. Oh well, at least he admits that he actually enjoyed the game. God, next Sunday is too fucking far away. Also, my preseason Melton boner was thoroughly justified today. Every time I see him play I think of John Randle, who was one of a very select few Minnesota Vikings I didn't despise.
That game would have been totally different if the Falcons D could catch two easy picks that Utler just threw into their hands. Yet another one in the red zone too.
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Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2011, 11:01:52 PM
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Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
I hope you were trying to channel Fro there, because anybody even remotely concerned about the yardage (especially since Matt Ryan had I think only 123 yards before the score was 30-6 and the defense went full on prevent) is beyond a total dipshit. The points, sacks, and turnovers are all Lovie cares about. Matt Ryan finished with just 6.8 YPA. As a team they only gained 5.9 yards per pass play. Yardage totals don't really mean shit for a Tampa Two defense. They stonewalled them in the red zone, and Charles Tillman dominated Roddy White.
If by "channel" you mean "copy and paste", then yeah.
Sigh. I went over there. God dammit, Fro. Oh well, at least he admits that he actually enjoyed the game. God, next Sunday is too fucking far away. Also, my preseason Melton boner was thoroughly justified today. Every time I see him play I think of John Randle, who was one of a very select few Minnesota Vikings I didn't despise.
That game would have been totally different if the Falcons D could catch two easy picks that Utler just threw into their hands. Yet another one in the red zone too.
Yeah, totally different. Like 20-6.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on September 12, 2011, 05:04:37 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2011, 11:01:52 PM
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Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
I hope you were trying to channel Fro there, because anybody even remotely concerned about the yardage (especially since Matt Ryan had I think only 123 yards before the score was 30-6 and the defense went full on prevent) is beyond a total dipshit. The points, sacks, and turnovers are all Lovie cares about. Matt Ryan finished with just 6.8 YPA. As a team they only gained 5.9 yards per pass play. Yardage totals don't really mean shit for a Tampa Two defense. They stonewalled them in the red zone, and Charles Tillman dominated Roddy White.
If by "channel" you mean "copy and paste", then yeah.
Sigh. I went over there. God dammit, Fro. Oh well, at least he admits that he actually enjoyed the game. God, next Sunday is too fucking far away. Also, my preseason Melton boner was thoroughly justified today. Every time I see him play I think of John Randle, who was one of a very select few Minnesota Vikings I didn't despise.
That game would have been totally different if the Falcons D could catch two easy picks that Utler just threw into their hands. Yet another one in the red zone too.
If you ignore the fact that the red zone near-pick only happened because the DB decided to mount Devin Hester about a second before the ball got there, then sure.
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Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
The only thing I have to say that's bad is that the defense still sucks when the other team is in a hurry-up offense and therefore, gave up over 400 total yards. I still think the defense was dominant.
I hope you were trying to channel Fro there, because anybody even remotely concerned about the yardage (especially since Matt Ryan had I think only 123 yards before the score was 30-6 and the defense went full on prevent) is beyond a total dipshit. The points, sacks, and turnovers are all Lovie cares about. Matt Ryan finished with just 6.8 YPA. As a team they only gained 5.9 yards per pass play. Yardage totals don't really mean shit for a Tampa Two defense. They stonewalled them in the red zone, and Charles Tillman dominated Roddy White.
If by "channel" you mean "copy and paste", then yeah.
Sigh. I went over there. God dammit, Fro. Oh well, at least he admits that he actually enjoyed the game. God, next Sunday is too fucking far away. Also, my preseason Melton boner was thoroughly justified today. Every time I see him play I think of John Randle, who was one of a very select few Minnesota Vikings I didn't despise.
That game would have been totally different if the Falcons D could catch two easy picks that Utler just threw into their hands. Yet another one in the red zone too.
If you ignore the fact that the red zone near-pick only happened because the DB decided to mount Devin Hester about a second before the ball got there, then sure.
I agree, but I also think if Jay leads Hester by another two feet, he either gets the TD or the flag. Bad throw.
The Bears are only good because they have Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher and Charles Tillman and Jay Cutler and Matt Forte and Johnny Knox and Kellen Davis and Devin Hester. You take those guys off the team and replace them with John Thierry, Brian Cox and Walt Harris and Rick Mirer and Rashaan Salaam and Curtis Conway and Ryan Wetnight and Rickey Proehl, they're the 1997 Bears.
Defense looked dominant, and the offense will get even better. They were thisclose to it being a 42-6 game. Have they been this dominant since 2006?
Quote from: Brownie on September 12, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
The Bears are only good because they have Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher and Charles Tillman and Jay Cutler and Matt Forte and Johnny Knox and Kellen Davis and Devin Hester. You take those guys off the team and replace them with John Thierry, Brian Cox and Walt Harris and Rick Mirer and Rashaan Salaam and Curtis Conway and Ryan Wetnight and Rickey Proehl, they're the 1997 Bears.
Defense looked dominant, and the offense will get even better. They were thisclose It's stupid how close it was to it being a 42-6 game. Have they been this dominant since 2006?
Our #1 Wideout'd.
Quote from: PANK! on September 12, 2011, 10:02:17 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 12, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
The Bears are only good because they have Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher and Charles Tillman and Jay Cutler and Matt Forte and Johnny Knox and Kellen Davis and Devin Hester. You take those guys off the team and replace them with John Thierry, Brian Cox and Walt Harris and Rick Mirer and Rashaan Salaam and Curtis Conway and Ryan Wetnight and Rickey Proehl, they're the 1997 Bears.
Defense looked dominant, and the offense will get even better. They were thisclose It's stupid how close it was to it being a 42-6 game. Have they been this dominant since 2006?
Our #1 Wideout'd.
+1. I'll never get tired of making fun of that fucking goof.
Quote from: Brownie on September 12, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
The Bears are only good because they have Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher and Charles Tillman and Jay Cutler and Matt Forte and Johnny Knox and Kellen Davis and Devin Hester. You take those guys off the team and replace them with John Thierry, Brian Cox and Walt Harris and Rick Mirer and Rashaan Salaam and Curtis Conway and Ryan Wetnight and Rickey Proehl, they're the 1997 Bears.
Defense looked dominant, and the offense will get even better. They were thisclose to it being a 42-6 game. Have they been this dominant since 2006?
None of this matters though because Bill Barnwell looked at the math and the two deflected pass that could have been interceptions and saw the incredibly misleading yardage totals and decided that these teams played the same and Chicago got lucky because of the turnovers and fuck this I don't care and I'm not doing this this year. Go Bears. Just keep winning and pissing everyone off in the process.
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2011, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 12, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
The Bears are only good because they have Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher and Charles Tillman and Jay Cutler and Matt Forte and Johnny Knox and Kellen Davis and Devin Hester. You take those guys off the team and replace them with John Thierry, Brian Cox and Walt Harris and Rick Mirer and Rashaan Salaam and Curtis Conway and Ryan Wetnight and Rickey Proehl, they're the 1997 Bears.
Defense looked dominant, and the offense will get even better. They were thisclose to it being a 42-6 game. Have they been this dominant since 2006?
Go Bears. Just keep winning and pissing everyone off in the process.
THIS
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2011, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 12, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
The Bears are only good because they have Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher and Charles Tillman and Jay Cutler and Matt Forte and Johnny Knox and Kellen Davis and Devin Hester. You take those guys off the team and replace them with John Thierry, Brian Cox and Walt Harris and Rick Mirer and Rashaan Salaam and Curtis Conway and Ryan Wetnight and Rickey Proehl, they're the 1997 Bears.
Defense looked dominant, and the offense will get even better. They were thisclose to it being a 42-6 game. Have they been this dominant since 2006?
None of this matters though because Bill Barnwell looked at the math and the two deflected pass that could have been interceptions and saw the incredibly misleading yardage totals and decided that these teams played the same and Chicago got lucky because of the turnovers and fuck this I don't care and I'm not doing this this year. Go Bears. Just keep winning and pissing everyone off in the process.
I need clarification - is this a Deserved Win for Atlanta or not?
Quote from: CT III on September 12, 2011, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2011, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 12, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
The Bears are only good because they have Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher and Charles Tillman and Jay Cutler and Matt Forte and Johnny Knox and Kellen Davis and Devin Hester. You take those guys off the team and replace them with John Thierry, Brian Cox and Walt Harris and Rick Mirer and Rashaan Salaam and Curtis Conway and Ryan Wetnight and Rickey Proehl, they're the 1997 Bears.
Defense looked dominant, and the offense will get even better. They were thisclose to it being a 42-6 game. Have they been this dominant since 2006?
None of this matters though because Bill Barnwell looked at the math and the two deflected pass that could have been interceptions and saw the incredibly misleading yardage totals and decided that these teams played the same and Chicago got lucky because of the turnovers and fuck this I don't care and I'm not doing this this year. Go Bears. Just keep winning and pissing everyone off in the process.
I need clarification - is this a Deserved Win for Atlanta or not?
Let's not lose sight of the real issues - as Fro pointed out, Cutler overthrew 3 balls to receivers.
Is this Bill Barnwell a real person or a blogger?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 11:51:16 AM
Is this Bill Barnwell a real person or a blogger?
He writes for Grantland.com, so neither.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 11:51:16 AM
Is this Bill Barnwell a real person or a blogger?
He portrays himself as an unbiased "stats guy," but (in a more obvious fashion than most) selectively uses statistics to support his own subjective beliefs, like when he felt the need to explain that the Bears aren't especially noteworthy in terms of "percentage of fumbles recovered," and therefore this game was an outlier (I'm not linking to his piece of shit article). He of course forgets to mention that the Bears have been one of the top teams in terms of takeaway damn near every year Lovie's been head coach. Yay for confirmation bias.
Quote from: fiveouts on September 12, 2011, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 11:51:16 AM
Is this Bill Barnwell a real person or a blogger?
He portrays himself as an unbiased "stats guy," but (in a more obvious fashion than most) selectively uses statistics to support his own subjective beliefs, like when he felt the need to explain that the Bears aren't especially noteworthy in terms of "percentage of fumbles recovered," and therefore this game was an outlier (I'm not linking to his piece of shit article). He of course forgets to mention that the Bears have been one of the top teams in terms of takeaway damn near every year Lovie's been head coach. Yay for confirmation bias.
But just think: had Sean Weatherspoon tackled Forte on his TD reception instead of
not tackling him, Forte would have never scored a TD on that particular reception.
And, sure, the Bears' five sacks of Matt Ryan may look nice on paper. But, once you consider the fact that the Falcons only gave up 1.3 sacks per game in 2010, you realize that it's not that impressive at all. Because what's easier than sacking a guy who doesn't get sacked much?
I mean, the Bears were rushing
four defensive linemen against the Falcons
one QB. 4-on-1? That's hardly a fair fight.
Meanwhile, the sports books actually like Detroit's chances at home against the mighty Chiefs (WHO MADE THE PLAYOFFS LAST SEASON)
more than they like the Bears' chances on the road at the Saints (who only won
eleven games in 2010).
So much for that vaunted road field advantage, I guess.
No, the deeper you dig into the stats that matter, you more you realize that the 2011 Bears are little more than a mirage.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 12, 2011, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on September 12, 2011, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 11:51:16 AM
Is this Bill Barnwell a real person or a blogger?
He portrays himself as an unbiased "stats guy," but (in a more obvious fashion than most) selectively uses statistics to support his own subjective beliefs, like when he felt the need to explain that the Bears aren't especially noteworthy in terms of "percentage of fumbles recovered," and therefore this game was an outlier (I'm not linking to his piece of shit article). He of course forgets to mention that the Bears have been one of the top teams in terms of takeaway damn near every year Lovie's been head coach. Yay for confirmation bias.
But just think: had Sean Weatherspoon tackled Forte on his TD reception instead of not tackling him, Forte would have never scored a TD on that particular reception.
And, sure, the Bears' five sacks of Matt Ryan may look nice on paper. But, once you consider the fact that the Falcons only gave up 1.3 sacks per game in 2010, you realize that it's not that impressive at all. Because what's easier than sacking a guy who doesn't get sacked much?
I mean, the Bears were rushing four defensive linemen against the Falcons one QB. 4-on-1? That's hardly a fair fight.
Meanwhile, the sports books actually like Detroit's chances at home against the mighty Chiefs (WHO MADE THE PLAYOFFS LAST SEASON) more than they like the Bears' chances on the road at the Saints (who only won eleven games in 2010).
So much for that vaunted road field advantage, I guess.
No, the deeper you dig into the stats that matter, you more you realize that the 2011 Bears are little more than a mirage.
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The Falcons were starting two nubes at center and guard yesterday, which might explain why their line looked like the Bears line usually does. Let's be glad the Bears took advantage and remind ourselves that they won't all be this easy.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 02:58:45 PM
The Falcons were starting two nubes at center and guard yesterday, which might explain why their line looked like the Bears line usually does. Let's be glad the Bears took advantage and remind ourselves that they won't all be this easy.
Certainly not against Olin Kreutz.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 02:58:45 PM
The Falcons were starting two nubes at center and guard yesterday, which might explain why their line looked like the Bears line usually does. Let's be glad the Bears took advantage and remind ourselves that they won't all be this easy.
That may be so, but Tyson Clabo, Sam Baker, and Justin Blalock also got handled pretty well, and those three are very good players who were the primary reason the Falcons were so great in pass protection last year. If you wanna put an asterisk on this one, that's a pretty small one.
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2011, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 02:58:45 PM
The Falcons were starting two nubes at center and guard yesterday, which might explain why their line looked like the Bears line usually does. Let's be glad the Bears took advantage and remind ourselves that they won't all be this easy.
That may be so, but Tyson Clabo, Sam Baker, and Justin Blalock also got handled pretty well, and those three are very good players who were the primary reason the Falcons were so great in pass protection last year. If you wanna put an asterisk on this one, that's a pretty small one.
The Falcons are the only team to have injuries in history.
Quote from: Slaky on September 12, 2011, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2011, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 02:58:45 PM
The Falcons were starting two nubes at center and guard yesterday, which might explain why their line looked like the Bears line usually does. Let's be glad the Bears took advantage and remind ourselves that they won't all be this easy.
That may be so, but Tyson Clabo, Sam Baker, and Justin Blalock also got handled pretty well, and those three are very good players who were the primary reason the Falcons were so great in pass protection last year. If you wanna put an asterisk on this one, that's a pretty small one.
The Falcons are the only team to have injuries in history.
Easy now. I'm not putting an asterisk on the D-Line's performance at all. I'm saying that they exploited a weakness. And I'm happy about that. I'm also saying that wasn't the same o-line that Atlanta won 13 games with last year and if they don't get it on time they're going to lose a lot more than just this one game. A shitty D-Line wouldn't have come through as well as the Bears did, but the sledding will get tougher.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 12, 2011, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2011, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 02:58:45 PM
The Falcons were starting two nubes at center and guard yesterday, which might explain why their line looked like the Bears line usually does. Let's be glad the Bears took advantage and remind ourselves that they won't all be this easy.
That may be so, but Tyson Clabo, Sam Baker, and Justin Blalock also got handled pretty well, and those three are very good players who were the primary reason the Falcons were so great in pass protection last year. If you wanna put an asterisk on this one, that's a pretty small one.
The Falcons are the only team to have injuries in history.
Easy now. I'm not putting an asterisk on the D-Line's performance at all. I'm saying that they exploited a weakness. And I'm happy about that. I'm also saying that wasn't the same o-line that Atlanta won 13 games with last year and if they don't get it on time they're going to lose a lot more than just this one game. A shitty D-Line wouldn't have come through as well as the Bears did, but the sledding will get tougher.
It wasn't exactly the same, no, but the center they were missing has never been anything terribly special while Blalock and Clabo were there and are the stalwarts of the line and Sam Baker is a solid tackle that was a first round pick out of USC. Those three all got handled on multiple plays, not just the two guys who weren't starters last year. That's why I'm excited. If they can beat
those three guys, there aren't going too be too many offensive lines that will fare well against them. The may not average five sacks a game, but they should give people fits all year long in a way that they didn't last year when a good performance from the pass rush generally depended solely on Julius Peppers.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 11, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
I expect that TDubbs feels duly chastened after that game.
I expect that TDubbs doesn't know what "chastened" means.
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Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 11, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
I expect that TDubbs feels duly chastened after that game.
I expect that TDubbs doesn't know what "chastened" means.
But he does know what chaste means.
Quote from: flannj on September 12, 2011, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 12, 2011, 09:17:29 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 11, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
I expect that TDubbs feels duly chastened after that game.
I expect that TDubbs doesn't know what "chastened" means.
But he does know what chaste means.
Who doesn't? That's when someone runs after you but doesn't catch you.
Quote from: CBStew on September 12, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 12, 2011, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 12, 2011, 09:17:29 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 11, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
I expect that TDubbs feels duly chastened after that game.
I expect that TDubbs doesn't know what "chastened" means.
But he does know what chaste means.
Who doesn't? That's when someone runs after you but doesn't catch you.
Oldest punchline in the world: "You've given me the wrong key!"
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2011, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 12, 2011, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2011, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 12, 2011, 02:58:45 PM
The Falcons were starting two nubes at center and guard yesterday, which might explain why their line looked like the Bears line usually does. Let's be glad the Bears took advantage and remind ourselves that they won't all be this easy.
That may be so, but Tyson Clabo, Sam Baker, and Justin Blalock also got handled pretty well, and those three are very good players who were the primary reason the Falcons were so great in pass protection last year. If you wanna put an asterisk on this one, that's a pretty small one.
The Falcons are the only team to have injuries in history.
Easy now. I'm not putting an asterisk on the D-Line's performance at all. I'm saying that they exploited a weakness. And I'm happy about that. I'm also saying that wasn't the same o-line that Atlanta won 13 games with last year and if they don't get it on time they're going to lose a lot more than just this one game. A shitty D-Line wouldn't have come through as well as the Bears did, but the sledding will get tougher.
It wasn't exactly the same, no, but the center they were missing has never been anything terribly special while Blalock and Clabo were there and are the stalwarts of the line and Sam Baker is a solid tackle that was a first round pick out of USC. Those three all got handled on multiple plays, not just the two guys who weren't starters last year. That's why I'm excited. If they can beat those three guys, there aren't going too be too many offensive lines that will fare well against them. The may not average five sacks a game, but they should give people fits all year long in a way that they didn't last year when a good performance from the pass rush generally depended solely on Julius Peppers.
Please go on. (pours wine, bats eyelashes)