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Title: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Huey on December 06, 2006, 10:37:26 PM
I guess it's offical now, boys.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061206&content_id=1752625&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

I say Hendry stays in his hospital bed until October.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: JD, Too on December 06, 2006, 10:38:28 PM
What about bed sores?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Huey on December 06, 2006, 10:39:45 PM
They can re-hire The Panozzo to roll him over every third day.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Al Czervik on December 06, 2006, 10:43:30 PM
Heard they're still going hard after Meche too.  The more I read about and hear about Meche, the more I think he'd be a pretty good pick up.  Piniella really wants him, and for now that's enough for me.

Hendry finalized the Lilly deal while hooked up to an EKG machine.  Kinda makes you like the guy.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: The Big Cheese on December 06, 2006, 10:44:56 PM
Why not?   Old people all have the scooters now.  Hendry can popularize the motorized rolling bed with an iv setup.  It's not like the guy was taking the stairs all that often to begin with.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Huey on December 06, 2006, 10:49:36 PM
He's gone from making Greg Maddux and Phil Nevin engineer their own trades out of town to closing deals while in a hospital bed.

Pretty amazing what one is capable of doing when one's job is on the line.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Ho Ho Kamper on December 06, 2006, 10:59:35 PM
With Hendry in the hospital, all deals with the Cubs will now only be consummated "pending a physical".
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: buckitt9 on December 07, 2006, 06:13:48 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on December 06, 2006, 10:44:56 PM
Why not?   Old people all have the scooters now.

Man, I really want one of those things.  Looks more fun than walking, and the singing old people on the tv box every night during X-files re-runs really give me a positive feeling about em.

What am I missing about Ted Lilly btw?  From what I know, he's always been pretty awful.  Is pretty awful the new good or something?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: BananaHands on December 07, 2006, 09:41:02 AM
Quote from: buckitt9 on December 07, 2006, 06:13:48 AM
What am I missing about Ted Lilly btw?  From what I know, he's always been pretty awful.  Is pretty awful the new good or something?

Pretty average, but I wouldn't say awful. I do like that he's pitched in New York before, if nothing else, he won't b$tch and moan like Jones about having fans that care about actually winning.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: InternetApex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Slaky+ on July 26, 2007, 08:14:50 AM
Who doesn't love this fucking guy? Ted Roosevelt Lilly, friends.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Fork_The_Third on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.

Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Down In Front on July 26, 2007, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.

Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

I saw that *I* started this thread and took a breath.  I was glad I didn't embarass myself...this time..although there are certainly hundreds of cases here where I have.  I was bracing myself to see the deal get ripped and prepared to calll that Huey guy out as a ledge-jumping, panty-wearin' overreacting pansy. 

It is interesting that Pex, who puts on a an optimsitic face more than most (so long as the deals in question don't net middling white guys who walk a lot and get a bunch of singles), still underestimated, vastly it would seem so far, Lilly's season.  Holy shit, Hendry may have gone all Jed Clampett on this one. 
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Corn-fed on July 26, 2007, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: Down In Front on July 26, 2007, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.

Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

I saw that *I* started this thread and took a breath.  I was glad I didn't embarass myself...this time..although there are certainly hundreds of cases here where I have.  I was bracing myself to see the deal get ripped and prepared to calll that Huey guy out as a ledge-jumping, panty-wearin' overreacting pansy. 

It is interesting that Pex, who puts on a an optimsitic face more than most (so long as the deals in question don't net middling white guys who walk a lot and get a bunch of singles), still underestimated, vastly it would seem so far, Lilly's season.  Holy shit, Hendry may have gone all Jed Clampett on this one. 

Yeah, but who actually expected the fly ball pitching Lilly (fly baller?) would be 11-4 at this point, 5-0 in July, with a 3.16 ERA at Wrigley?

Don't lie to me. I can always tell when people lie to me.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: air2300 on July 26, 2007, 09:43:10 AM
Quote from: Corn-fed on July 26, 2007, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: Down In Front on July 26, 2007, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.

Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

I saw that *I* started this thread and took a breath.  I was glad I didn't embarass myself...this time..although there are certainly hundreds of cases here where I have.  I was bracing myself to see the deal get ripped and prepared to calll that Huey guy out as a ledge-jumping, panty-wearin' overreacting pansy. 

It is interesting that Pex, who puts on a an optimsitic face more than most (so long as the deals in question don't net middling white guys who walk a lot and get a bunch of singles), still underestimated, vastly it would seem so far, Lilly's season.  Holy shit, Hendry may have gone all Jed Clampett on this one. 

Yeah, but who actually expected the fly ball pitching Lilly (fly baller?) would be 11-4 at this point, 5-0 in July, with a 3.16 ERA at Wrigley?

Don't lie to me. I can always tell when people lie to me.
I did.  That is why I drafted him to be part of the Harry Caray's Posse.*

*I may or may not have seen this coming.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Al Czervik on July 26, 2007, 10:40:17 AM
My only prediction for Lilly would have been that he'd be the Starting Pitcher most likely to deconstruct Michael Barrett's face. 

I would have been wrong.

Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Down In Front on July 26, 2007, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: Al Czervik on July 26, 2007, 10:40:17 AM
My only prediction for Lilly would have been that he'd be the Starting Pitcher most likely to deconstruct Michael Barrett's face. 

I would have been wrong.

If it were to happen, Al, Lilly would have made sure it was far, far away from cameras and would not be a suspect for a long, long time.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: SD on July 26, 2007, 11:09:58 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great.
Quote
Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

It happens even to the best of us, Fork.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: DPappy on July 26, 2007, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on July 26, 2007, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: Down In Front on July 26, 2007, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.

Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

I saw that *I* started this thread and took a breath.  I was glad I didn't embarass myself...this time..although there are certainly hundreds of cases here where I have.  I was bracing myself to see the deal get ripped and prepared to calll that Huey guy out as a ledge-jumping, panty-wearin' overreacting pansy. 

It is interesting that Pex, who puts on a an optimsitic face more than most (so long as the deals in question don't net middling white guys who walk a lot and get a bunch of singles), still underestimated, vastly it would seem so far, Lilly's season.  Holy shit, Hendry may have gone all Jed Clampett on this one. 

Yeah, but who actually expected the fly ball pitching Lilly (fly baller?) would be 11-4 at this point, 5-0 in July, with a 3.16 ERA at Wrigley?

Don't lie to me. I can always tell when people lie to me.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems as though the wind is blowing in EVERY time I'm watching a game played at Wrigley.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Fork_The_Third on July 26, 2007, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: SD on July 26, 2007, 11:09:58 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great.
Quote
Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

It happens even to the best of us, Fork.

I should know, what with being the best of us and all.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Slaky+ on September 19, 2007, 10:49:07 PM
Ted Lilly. A SPLOOGE.

Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Tonker on September 20, 2007, 03:26:08 AM
I will cheerfully hold my hands up (assuming Fork doesn't cut them off before he makes me walk the plank) and admit that I didn't see this coming.  I drafted Lilly for my fantasy team back when he was a Yankee, and dropped him half way through the year because I thought he was flaky.  I hope he never reads that.

Ted Lilly is a 24-carat, balls-out, hard-nosed cunt.  If the Cubs end up in game 7 of the World Series, I want Ted Lilly on the mound.  What a fucking stud.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 03:57:02 AM

Lilly has ice water in his veins. He has exceeded our expectations by miles.

I positive Lilly, Peter North-style.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: JS on September 20, 2007, 07:02:01 AM
I positive Ted Lilly.

Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: The Ghost of Desipio Past on September 20, 2007, 07:49:34 AM
Nice of Tedward Freezer Heads to go out and show everybody what a mentally deficient, gaping vagina Zambrano is.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 07:51:43 AM
Quote from: The Ghost of Disagreement on September 20, 2007, 07:49:34 AM
Nice of Tedward Freezer Heads to go out and show everybody what a mentally deficient, gaping vagina Zambrano is.

They each have their place. When Zambrano's lunacy is harnessed properly, he can be effective. Lilly is just cold and methodical. I don't think he would approach Game 7 any differently than he would an intrasquad game.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: The Ghost of Desipio Past on September 20, 2007, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 07:51:43 AM
Quote from: The Ghost of Disagreement on September 20, 2007, 07:49:34 AM
Nice of Tedward Freezer Heads to go out and show everybody what a mentally deficient, gaping vagina Zambrano is.

They each have their place. When Zambrano's lunacy is harnessed properly, he can be effective. Lilly is just cold and methodical. I don't think he would approach Game 7 any differently than he would an intrasquad game.

And Lilly's place is pitching game 1 of the playoffs.

I really like this though... "When Zambrano's lunacy is harnessed properly, he can be effective."  The inference being Z's lunacy is not only unharnessed at times, but even when it is, it's none always done properly (i.e. positive affect).  But even when he does manage to harness it properly, he can be effective.  Which isn't saying that he is effective.  Which I  simply stated as Z being a mentally deficient, gaping vagina.  But you said it better.  You're like a little miniature Buddha.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 08:24:39 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.

Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

My baseball knowledge appears to be Morganesque.

(hangs head, walking away with Charlie Brown music playing)
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Taylor on September 20, 2007, 08:29:20 AM
Lilly is a stone cold serial killer. Big positive for the way he pitched last night. It's a shame that he didn't get the win.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: The Ghost of Desipio Past on September 20, 2007, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: Taylor on September 20, 2007, 08:29:20 AM
Lilly is a stone cold serial killer. Big positive for the way he pitched last night. It's a shame that he didn't get the win.

It's more of a shame for the person he took it out on.  RIP.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: EG on September 20, 2007, 08:56:22 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 08:24:39 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.

Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

My baseball knowledge appears to be Morganesque.

(hangs head, walking away with Charlie Brown music playing)

For you to be truly Morganesque, you would have said, "I haven't seen Ted Lilly pitch much, but Gary Sheffield is the best hitter of the last 20 years."
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 09:10:57 AM
Quote from: EG on September 20, 2007, 08:56:22 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 08:24:39 AM
Quote from: Fourk on July 26, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: forkserker on December 07, 2006, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Apex on December 07, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
If he goes 15-13 with a 4.31 this year, that would be great. Those were his numbers with the Jays last year. That ERA has to come down in the NL. I'm thinking 13-10, 4.13. I'd have no complaints.

If he's the #3 starter, behind Z and Hill, it's not bad at all. If he's #4 starter behind Z and Hill, and Prior undergoes a successful addadictomy, it's great. For a #2, we're in last again.

Boy, this guy was way off. What a dick.

My baseball knowledge appears to be Morganesque.

(hangs head, walking away with Charlie Brown music playing)

For you to be truly Morganesque, you would have said, "I haven't seen Ted Lilly pitch much, but Gary Sheffield is the best hitter of the last 20 years."

Lilly has been consistent.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kermit on September 20, 2007, 11:13:35 AM
Quote from: The Ghost of Disagreement on September 20, 2007, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 07:51:43 AM
Quote from: The Ghost of Disagreement on September 20, 2007, 07:49:34 AM
Nice of Tedward Freezer Heads to go out and show everybody what a mentally deficient, gaping vagina Zambrano is.

They each have their place. When Zambrano's lunacy is harnessed properly, he can be effective. Lilly is just cold and methodical. I don't think he would approach Game 7 any differently than he would an intrasquad game.

And Lilly's place is pitching game 1 of the playoffs.

I really like this though... "When Zambrano's lunacy is harnessed properly, he can be effective."  The inference being Z's lunacy is not only unharnessed at times, but even when it is, it's none always done properly (i.e. positive affect).  But even when he does manage to harness it properly, he can be effective.  Which isn't saying that he is effective.  Which I  simply stated as Z being a mentally deficient, gaping vagina.  But you said it better.  You're like a little miniature Buddha.

I completely agree.

Lilly-Carlos-Hill-Marquis.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: Kermit on September 20, 2007, 11:13:35 AM
Quote from: The Ghost of Disagreement on September 20, 2007, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 07:51:43 AM
Quote from: The Ghost of Disagreement on September 20, 2007, 07:49:34 AM
Nice of Tedward Freezer Heads to go out and show everybody what a mentally deficient, gaping vagina Zambrano is.

They each have their place. When Zambrano's lunacy is harnessed properly, he can be effective. Lilly is just cold and methodical. I don't think he would approach Game 7 any differently than he would an intrasquad game.

And Lilly's place is pitching game 1 of the playoffs.

I really like this though... "When Zambrano's lunacy is harnessed properly, he can be effective."  The inference being Z's lunacy is not only unharnessed at times, but even when it is, it's none always done properly (i.e. positive affect).  But even when he does manage to harness it properly, he can be effective.  Which isn't saying that he is effective.  Which I  simply stated as Z being a mentally deficient, gaping vagina.  But you said it better.  You're like a little miniature Buddha.

You've seen my dashboard?

Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Internet Apex on September 20, 2007, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: The Ghost of Disagreement on September 20, 2007, 07:49:34 AM
Nice of Tedward Freezer Heads to go out and show everybody what a mentally deficient, gaping vagina Zambrano is.

Shit. I have to remind everyone that with the lefthanded thunder in the Reds' lineup and their ability to hit just about anybody, God included, that Lilly is just a better matchup against them. What Z did to the Tards last weekend was just plain wrong. He's got the stuff in him. We'll see it again too before long. He battled the other night. He just got beat. Relax.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
My biggest concern with Z is his temperament in high-pressure situations.

Put into Game 1 of a playoff series, he's liable to seize up and overthrow his pitches, and then proceed to thunder around the mound punching himself in the brain.

An eerily/psychotically calm Lilly performance the night before, on the other hand, just might be what it takes to settle Carlos down.

Or not. He is hard to predict, that one.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 01:08:25 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
My biggest concern with Z is his temperament in high-pressure situations.

Put into Game 1 of a playoff series, he's liable to seize up and overthrow his pitches, and then proceed to thunder around the mound punching himself in the brain.

An eerily/psychotically calm Lilly performance the night before, on the other hand, just might be what it takes to settle Carlos down.

Or not. He is hard to predict, that one.

The only hope we have to cling to is that Z nuts up with money on the line.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: butthead on September 20, 2007, 01:12:40 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
My biggest concern with Z is his temperament in high-pressure situations.

Put into Game 1 of a playoff series, he's liable to seize up and overthrow his pitches, and then proceed to thunder around the mound punching himself in the brain.

An eerily/psychotically calm Lilly performance the night before, on the other hand, just might be what it takes to settle Carlos down.

Or not. He is hard to predict, that one.

OR, a loss by Lilly the night before puts even more pressure on Z in game two, leading to a classic Z freakout.

If Carlos can't handle the game one pressure and blows it, we would then have a calm, cool, and collected Lilly going in a must win game two.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 01:12:40 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
My biggest concern with Z is his temperament in high-pressure situations.

Put into Game 1 of a playoff series, he's liable to seize up and overthrow his pitches, and then proceed to thunder around the mound punching himself in the brain.

An eerily/psychotically calm Lilly performance the night before, on the other hand, just might be what it takes to settle Carlos down.

Or not. He is hard to predict, that one.

OR, a loss by Lilly the night before puts even more pressure on Z in game two, leading to a classic Z freakout.

If Carlos can't handle the game one pressure and blows it, we would then have a calm, cool, and collected Lilly going in a must win game two.


Intrepid Reader: Ned Flanders

That's a dilly of a pickle.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 01:12:40 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
My biggest concern with Z is his temperament in high-pressure situations.

Put into Game 1 of a playoff series, he's liable to seize up and overthrow his pitches, and then proceed to thunder around the mound punching himself in the brain.

An eerily/psychotically calm Lilly performance the night before, on the other hand, just might be what it takes to settle Carlos down.

Or not. He is hard to predict, that one.

OR, a loss by Lilly the night before puts even more pressure on Z in game two, leading to a classic Z freakout.

If Carlos can't handle the game one pressure and blows it, we would then have a calm, cool, and collected Lilly going in a must win game two.


The greater concern to me is whether or not Hill just turns to a puddle on the mound in Game 3.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: LoneStarCubFan on September 20, 2007, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 01:12:40 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
My biggest concern with Z is his temperament in high-pressure situations.

Put into Game 1 of a playoff series, he's liable to seize up and overthrow his pitches, and then proceed to thunder around the mound punching himself in the brain.

An eerily/psychotically calm Lilly performance the night before, on the other hand, just might be what it takes to settle Carlos down.

Or not. He is hard to predict, that one.

OR, a loss by Lilly the night before puts even more pressure on Z in game two, leading to a classic Z freakout.

If Carlos can't handle the game one pressure and blows it, we would then have a calm, cool, and collected Lilly going in a must win game two.


The greater concern to me is whether or not Hill just turns to a puddle on the mound in Game 3.

Don't worry they've got Trachsel for long relief...
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: DwightKurtz on September 20, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
I support the Big Moose at #1 and the Bull Moose at #2 in a playoff series.  Based on his performance against the Deadbirds in big game situations, I believe that Carlos will be able to control himself in the post season.  But, as somebody else pointed out, if he is unable to do so, then it is ideal to have Captain McIcey-Veins pitching behind him.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Dan on September 20, 2007, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 20, 2007, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 01:12:40 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
My biggest concern with Z is his temperament in high-pressure situations.

Put into Game 1 of a playoff series, he's liable to seize up and overthrow his pitches, and then proceed to thunder around the mound punching himself in the brain.

An eerily/psychotically calm Lilly performance the night before, on the other hand, just might be what it takes to settle Carlos down.

Or not. He is hard to predict, that one.

OR, a loss by Lilly the night before puts even more pressure on Z in game two, leading to a classic Z freakout.

If Carlos can't handle the game one pressure and blows it, we would then have a calm, cool, and collected Lilly going in a must win game two.


The greater concern to me is whether or not Hill just turns to a puddle on the mound in Game 3.

Don't worry they've got Trachsel for long relief...
the operative word being LONG.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: Dan on September 20, 2007, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 20, 2007, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 01:12:40 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
My biggest concern with Z is his temperament in high-pressure situations.

Put into Game 1 of a playoff series, he's liable to seize up and overthrow his pitches, and then proceed to thunder around the mound punching himself in the brain.

An eerily/psychotically calm Lilly performance the night before, on the other hand, just might be what it takes to settle Carlos down.

Or not. He is hard to predict, that one.

OR, a loss by Lilly the night before puts even more pressure on Z in game two, leading to a classic Z freakout.

If Carlos can't handle the game one pressure and blows it, we would then have a calm, cool, and collected Lilly going in a must win game two.


The greater concern to me is whether or not Hill just turns to a puddle on the mound in Game 3.

Don't worry they've got Trachsel for long relief...
the operative word being LONG.

Actually, Hill would be Game 4. Piniella has the rotation set as Z/Freezerheads/Marky/Hill.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: EG on September 20, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
I believe that Carlos will be able to control himself in the post season.

Just like he did in 2003?  And just like he does on his big Opening Day starts?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: EG on September 20, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
I believe that Carlos will be able to control himself in the post season.

Just like he did in 2003?  And just like he does on his big Opening Day starts?

... And what was the best of his starts in the '03 playoffs? When he started Game 2 of the NLDS. A no decision, gave up 3 runs.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: EG on September 20, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
I believe that Carlos will be able to control himself in the post season.

Just like he did in 2003?  And just like he does on his big Opening Day starts?

He was gassed in 2003. He was carrying a good 25 pounds of extra lard, and he was shot by Labor Day.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: DwightKurtz on September 20, 2007, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: EG on September 20, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
I believe that Carlos will be able to control himself in the post season.

Just like he did in 2003?  And just like he does on his big Opening Day starts?

Quote from: EG on September 20, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
I believe that Carlos will be able to control himself in the post season.

Just like he did in 2003?  And just like he does on his big Opening Day starts?

Now that you mention it, Randall Simon was a huge contributor to the 2003 team.  Maybe the Cubs should pick him up for a post season drive.  Same with Eric Karros.  After all, based on their 2003 performances ...

My point is, how he did in 2003 means jack.  Just ask Mark Grace, who came alive in 1989 but stayed asleep in 1998.  Based on his performances in big games this year (the only season that matters), I'd trust the Moose as my #1 playoff guy.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Internet Apex on September 20, 2007, 03:58:21 PM
2003 was his first full year as a starter in the bigs. He'd hit that rookie wall with an oath but had nothing left.

He seems to lose focus at times. That's when his pitch selection gets dicey, his armslot drops and his velocity dips. That didn't happen in StL the other night or really the other night against Cincy. But against the Dodgers he was all fucked up.

Maybe, just maybe, he doesn't lose focus in these playoffs. I can hope.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 20, 2007, 04:03:01 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on September 20, 2007, 03:58:21 PM
2003 was his first full year as a starter in the bigs. He'd hit that rookie wall with an oath but had nothing left.

He seems to lose focus at times. That's when his pitch selection gets dicey, his armslot drops and his velocity dips. That didn't happen in StL the other night or really the other night against Cincy. But against the Dodgers he was all fucked up.

Maybe, just maybe, he doesn't lose focus in these playoffs. I can hope.

The exact same thing can be said for Marquis. I'm convinced his giving back runs is nothing more than a lack of concentration. If these two guys can get as locked in as Lilly usually is, any one of us can hold the #4 spot in a playoff rotation.

But, let's fucking get there first.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: EG on September 20, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
I believe that Carlos will be able to control himself in the post season.

Just like he did in 2003? And just like he does on his big Opening Day starts?

Now that you mention it, Randall Simon was a huge contributor to the 2003 team.  Maybe the Cubs should pick him up for a post season drive.  Same with Eric Karros.  After all, based on their 2003 performances ...

My point is, how he did in 2003 means jack.  Just ask Mark Grace, who came alive in 1989 but stayed asleep in 1998. Based on his performances in big games this year (the only season that matters), I'd trust the Moose as my #1 playoff guy.

Fair enough re: his playoff experience.

What are your thoughts, then, on Opening Day 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: bozos72 on September 20, 2007, 05:01:30 PM
Opening Day is nothing more than the first of a 162 game season.  To put extra weight on it seems a bit silly.  I would imagine that pitching in the playoffs is nothing like pitching on Opening Day.  Sure, we get all excited about the new season and the players go out there wanting to impress, etc.  But come on.

You can just as easily point to his June/July and how it correlates with a Cubs resurgence.

Zambrano is your number 1 starter because he's the best pitcher.  Period.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: DwightKurtz on September 20, 2007, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: Corn-fed on September 20, 2007, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: EG on September 20, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
I believe that Carlos will be able to control himself in the post season.

Just like he did in 2003? And just like he does on his big Opening Day starts?

Now that you mention it, Randall Simon was a huge contributor to the 2003 team.  Maybe the Cubs should pick him up for a post season drive.  Same with Eric Karros.  After all, based on their 2003 performances ...

My point is, how he did in 2003 means jack.  Just ask Mark Grace, who came alive in 1989 but stayed asleep in 1998. Based on his performances in big games this year (the only season that matters), I'd trust the Moose as my #1 playoff guy.

Fair enough re: his playoff experience.

What are your thoughts, then, on Opening Day 2005, 2006 and 2007?

Seems to me that he's a slow starter.  It's the same criticism with Ramirez.  A-Ram has almost always started slowly, which doesn't mean he isn't a clutch player.  Looking back at the D-Lee injury of last year, people wanted to dog Aramis because he didn't step up, and his heart, commitment, and clutch abilities were definitely called into question.

Was anybody questioning his clutch abilities when he set a Cubs record for most post-season homeruns in 2003?  Has anybody questioned his clutch abilities based on how he's hit this year?  I'm just saying, a slow start doesn't make a guy anti-clutch.  It just makes him a (duh) slow starter.

But don't get me wrong.  If they make it in, I'll definitely be nervous every time Zambrano takes the ball, based on how he did in '03.  I'll be worried that his head will be likely to explode.  Yet, also, I'd still want him pitching the first game, and I'd absolutely want Lilly to be the #2 guy both because Lilly could either clean up his mess, or deliver that nearly fatal one-two blow to our opponent's kidneys.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: butthead on September 20, 2007, 06:44:48 PM
If Z is going to meltdown in the playoffs, we're screwed. It doesn't matter if it is game one or two. He's the most talented. He's the ace. He gets the ball game one.

If we get there.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: DwightKurtz on September 20, 2007, 07:00:16 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 06:44:48 PM
If Z is going to meltdown in the playoffs, we're screwed.

Not necessarily, unless Lou is planning on starting him every game.

In a further moment of candor, if opening day was tomorrow, Lilly would be my ace.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: butthead on September 20, 2007, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 07:00:16 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 06:44:48 PM
If Z is going to meltdown in the playoffs, we're screwed.

Not necessarily, unless Lou is planning on starting him every game.

In a further moment of candor, if opening day was tomorrow, Lilly would be my ace.

Obviously it would still be possible to win the other games even if he loses all his starts. Our best chance to win is when Z is pitching well. If we can't trust him to pitch the first game of a playoff series, I guess that contract was a mistake.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: butthead on September 20, 2007, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 07:00:16 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 06:44:48 PM
If Z is going to meltdown in the playoffs, we're screwed.

Not necessarily, unless Lou is planning on starting him every game.

In a further moment of candor, if opening day was tomorrow, Lilly would be my ace.

Obviously it would still be possible to win the other games even if he loses all his starts. Our best chance to win is when Z is pitching well. If we can't trust him to pitch the first game of a playoff series, I guess that contract was a mistake.

Well, I for one think he's the best choice to pitch the first game of the playoffs for reasons previously stated.

As far as everything else goes... we would have to be retarded donkeys to judge the success or failure of the Z contract based on how he performs this post season, should the Cubs make it.

I'm not saying the contract will or won't end up being worth it in the long run if Z sucks this post season. I'm saying that Z needs to live up to the contract now for the post season to be successful. Or something like that.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: DwightKurtz on September 20, 2007, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on September 20, 2007, 07:00:16 PM
Quote from: butthead on September 20, 2007, 06:44:48 PM
If Z is going to meltdown in the playoffs, we're screwed.

Not necessarily, unless Lou is planning on starting him every game.

In a further moment of candor, if opening day was tomorrow, Lilly would be my ace.

Obviously it would still be possible to win the other games even if he loses all his starts. Our best chance to win is when Z is pitching well. If we can't trust him to pitch the first game of a playoff series, I guess that contract was a mistake.

Well, I for one think he's the best choice to pitch the first game of the playoffs for reasons previously stated.

As far as everything else goes... we would have to be retarded donkeys to judge the success or failure of the Z contract based on how he performs this post season, should the Cubs make it.

I'm not saying the contract will or won't end up being worth it in the long run if Z sucks this post season. I'm saying that Z needs to live up to the contract now for the post season to be successful. Or something like that.


Fair enough, and sensible enough from my perspective.  Hopefully he'll only need to start once more this season, but it would go a long way to post season if the Big Moose wins his remaining game(s), if only for the momentum factor.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: The Ghost of Desipio Past on September 21, 2007, 09:47:40 AM
Quote from: bozos72 on September 20, 2007, 05:01:30 PM
Opening Day is nothing more than the first of a 162 game season.  To put extra weight on it seems a bit silly.  I would imagine that pitching in the playoffs is nothing like pitching on Opening Day.  Sure, we get all excited about the new season and the players go out there wanting to impress, etc.  But come on.

You can just as easily point to his June/July and how it correlates with a Cubs resurgence.

Zambrano is your number 1 starter because he's the best pitcher. Period.

You're confusing most talented and/or best stuff with best results.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: 5laky on September 10, 2008, 07:53:17 PM
Ted Lilly - a bad ass.

Fuck you Yadier.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: LoneStarCubFan on September 10, 2008, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: 5laky on September 10, 2008, 07:53:17 PM
Ted Lilly - a bad ass.

Fuck you Yadier.

Even though he was out that was awesome.

Of course The Genius will order Looper to throw at him the next time he's up.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: fiveouts on September 10, 2008, 08:01:51 PM
I'm disappointed that Ted didn't have time to pull the shank out of his sock before running into Molina.  You know that's what he wanted to do.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: BichetteHappens on September 10, 2008, 08:06:30 PM
Len just said Ted broke up a dog fight by putting his hand inside a pitbulls mouth to pry its' jaws apart...

I came.

Ted Lilly: All That Is Man.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: fiveouts on September 10, 2008, 08:07:37 PM
Come on...now Len's just making shit up.  Lilly broke up a dog fight by putting his hand in a pitbull's mouth and prying its jaws open?  

I want him as my dad.  
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Al Yellon on September 10, 2008, 08:07:48 PM
Quote from: BichetteHappens on September 10, 2008, 08:06:30 PM
Len just said Ted broke up a dog fight by putting his hand inside a pitbulls mouth to pry its' jaws apart...

I came.

Ted Lilly: All That Is Man.

I heard he tested a bear trap the same way.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Philberto on September 10, 2008, 08:08:13 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 10, 2008, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: 5laky on September 10, 2008, 07:53:17 PM
Ted Lilly - a bad ass.

Fuck you Yadier.

Even though he was out that was awesome.

Of course The Genius will order Looper to throw at him the next time he's up.
And voices in Lilly's head will order him to kill LaGenius and store him in the basement.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: LoneStarCubFan on September 10, 2008, 08:13:11 PM
Ted Lilly expected the Spanish Inquisition.


Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Rob_Goldman on September 10, 2008, 08:14:46 PM
He was just sticking his arm out, trying to get plunked by Looper.  Bad-ass.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: fiveouts on September 10, 2008, 08:15:32 PM
Looper throws high and tight and the "best fans in baseball" cheer like they would on a 2-for-1 sale on jean shorts.  Fuck that whole city.  
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 10, 2008, 08:20:54 PM
Ice. Cold.

Looper, you have been emasculated.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kerm on September 10, 2008, 10:30:19 PM
Quote from: 5laky on September 10, 2008, 07:53:17 PM
Ted Lilly - a bad ass.

Fuck you Yadier.

Remember how I was just asking like a week ago why no one (in that case, Cedeno) ever plows over a catcher?  I would have never guessed that Lilly would be the one to shut me up.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 10, 2008, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: Kerm on September 10, 2008, 10:30:19 PM
Quote from: 5laky on September 10, 2008, 07:53:17 PM
Ted Lilly - a bad ass.

Fuck you Yadier.

Remember how I was just asking like a week ago why no one (in that case, Cedeno) ever plows over a catcher?  I would have never guessed that Lilly would be the one to shut carve me up.

Internet tradition'd.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Cade on September 10, 2008, 10:51:48 PM
The elder and dead Theodore Roosevelt approves of Theodore Roosevelt Lilly's actions.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: TJ on September 10, 2008, 10:54:38 PM
Quote from: BichetteHappens on September 10, 2008, 08:06:30 PM
Len just said Ted broke up a dog fight by putting his hand inside a pitbulls a lipstick-less hockey mom's mouth to pry its' jaws apart...

I came.

Ted Lilly: All That Is Man.
General Election Clusterfucked

Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 10, 2008, 10:58:38 PM
Quote from: TJ on September 10, 2008, 10:54:38 PM
Quote from: BichetteHappens on September 10, 2008, 08:06:30 PM
Len just said Ted broke up a dog fight by putting his hand inside a pitbulls a lipstick-less hockey mom's mouth to pry its' jaws apart...

I came.

Ted Lilly: All That Is Man.
General Election Clusterfucked


Oh god...it's spreading...
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 11, 2008, 07:10:04 AM
Quote from: Cade on September 10, 2008, 10:51:48 PM
The elder and dead Theodore Roosevelt approves of Theodore Roosevelt Lilly's actions.

Bully!
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Taylor2 on September 11, 2008, 08:05:59 AM
QuoteLilly said he had not intended to injure Molina, who left the game three innings after taking a knee to the left thigh on a tag play at the plate.

"First of all, I hope he's not hurt," Lilly said. "It's not something I was trying to do and it's almost more dangerous if I slide and my only other option is to stand there and let him tag me. At that point in the game, it's useful.

"I don't know if I'm going to go eight innings and not give up another run so I feel like we have to do what we have to do to score more runs."

Molina left the game after the thigh tightened on him and expects to miss a couple of games. He had not been expecting a collision, given the pitcher was running.

Today Ted might have to pinch run and not intend to injure Fat Albert.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 11, 2008, 08:37:30 AM
Quote from: Taylor2 on September 11, 2008, 08:05:59 AM
QuoteLilly said he had not intended to injure Molina, who left the game three innings after taking a knee to the left thigh on a tag play at the plate.

"First of all, I hope he's not hurt," Lilly said. "It's not something I was trying to do and it's almost more dangerous if I slide and my only other option is to stand there and let him tag me. At that point in the game, it's useful.

"I don't know if I'm going to go eight innings and not give up another run so I feel like we have to do what we have to do to score more runs."

Molina left the game after the thigh tightened on him and expects to miss a couple of games. He had not been expecting a collision, given the pitcher was running.

Today Ted might have to pinch run and not intend to injure Fat Albert.

Shitty catching. You should ALWAYS expect a collision.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: RV on September 11, 2008, 08:41:07 AM
Quote from: Taylor2 on September 11, 2008, 08:05:59 AM
QuoteLilly said he had not intended to injure Molina, who left the game three innings after taking a knee to the left thigh on a tag play at the plate.

"First of all, I hope he's not hurt," Lilly said. "It's not something I was trying to do and it's almost more dangerous if I slide and my only other option is to stand there and let him tag me. At that point in the game, it's useful.

"I don't know if I'm going to go eight innings and not give up another run so I feel like we have to do what we have to do to score more runs."

Molina left the game after the thigh tightened on him and expects to miss a couple of games. He had not been expecting a collision, given the pitcher was running.

Today Ted might have to pinch run and not intend to injure Fat Albert.

Surprise! The Jockey told me that the Genius is shocked and appalled at Ted's despicable actions.

QuotePiniella said Lilly wasn't supposed to run on the grounder by Derrek Lee, but he added it was a clean play. St. Louis manager Tony La Russa said the Cubs "play the game hard," adding "it goes both ways."

But when asked about Lilly's performance, La Russa hedged.

"I'll let the other team talk about him," he snapped. "I have no comment about him."

Whether there will be any repercussions Thursday remains to be seen.

La Russa is just a miserable piece of shit.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Al Yellon on September 11, 2008, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: RV on September 11, 2008, 08:41:07 AM
Quote from: Taylor2 on September 11, 2008, 08:05:59 AM
QuoteLilly said he had not intended to injure Molina, who left the game three innings after taking a knee to the left thigh on a tag play at the plate.

"First of all, I hope he's not hurt," Lilly said. "It's not something I was trying to do and it's almost more dangerous if I slide and my only other option is to stand there and let him tag me. At that point in the game, it's useful.

"I don't know if I'm going to go eight innings and not give up another run so I feel like we have to do what we have to do to score more runs."

Molina left the game after the thigh tightened on him and expects to miss a couple of games. He had not been expecting a collision, given the pitcher was running.

Today Ted might have to pinch run and not intend to injure Fat Albert.

Surprise! The Jockey told me that the Genius is shocked and appalled at Ted's despicable actions.

QuotePiniella said Lilly wasn't supposed to run on the grounder by Derrek Lee, but he added it was a clean play. St. Louis manager Tony La Russa said the Cubs "play the game hard," adding "it goes both ways."

But when asked about Lilly's performance, La Russa hedged.

"I'll let the other team talk about him," he snapped. "I have no comment about him."

Whether there will be any repercussions Thursday remains to be seen.

La Russa is just a miserable piece of shit.

I think we should launch a preemptive strike. See if we can thread a baseball through the hole on PLUJOLS' earflap. Or Ludwick's...
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 11, 2008, 08:53:37 AM

I want to know if Z feels threatened that he's not the team's #1 badass any more, and if he intends to do something to reclaim his title?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Dave B on September 11, 2008, 08:54:05 AM
From Bernie Miklasz's column in the Post-Dispatch:

"And La Russa was perturbed by Lilly's full-contact hit. Which was surprising, because Cardinals are usually applauded for playing hard-shell baseball. But the last thing La Russa needed to see was another wounded player. His team will go down fighting, but the bodies are dropping. And with the injury rate soaring, how can the Cardinals possibly settle into a consistent groove? They're 25-24 since the All-Star break."

Like I've always said, The Genius is a fuckin' hypocrite. He thinks he invented the game and if someone violates the "code" he whines and retaliates. It's OK if his team drills catchers (see Albie in Houston sliding when there was no play), but someone smokes his guy when there actually is a play and he bitches. Screw him.

Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Waco Kid on September 11, 2008, 08:57:02 AM
Of the few things you can count in life, The Genius being a douchebag is one of them.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 08:53:37 AM

I want to know if Z feels threatened that he's not the team's #1 badass any more, and if he intends to do something to reclaim his title?

Different kinds of badassery involved anyway. To use the lingo of abusive relationships (which is totally inappropriate in context, but I don't care), Z is a Pit Bull and Theodore Roosevelt is a Cobra.


Background literature in support of my insane statement:
QuoteThe cobra is a real snake in the grass, quiet and focused before striking its victim with little or no warning. The pit bull's fury smolders and builds, and once its teeth are sunk into its victim it won't let go...

........................

...Pit bulls, the psychologists say, monitor the [Opposing Player's] every move. They tend to see betrayal at every turn and it infuriates them. And when their anger explodes into violence, they seem to lose control [on meathead catchers].

Cobras, on the other hand, are often sociopaths. They are cold and calculating con artists relatively free of the trappings of emotional dependence but with a high incidence of antisocial and criminal traits and sadistic behavior, the researchers found. Cobras' violence grows out of a pathological need to [earhole bitchass punks], to be the [stopper] and make sure that everyone, especially their [teammates and opposing players], knows it and acts accordingly.

Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: RV on September 11, 2008, 09:17:42 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 08:53:37 AM

I want to know if Z feels threatened that he's not the team's #1 badass any more, and if he intends to do something to reclaim his title?

Different kinds of badassery involved anyway. To use the lingo of abusive relationships (which is totally inappropriate in context, but I don't care), Z is a Pit Bull and Theodore Roosevelt is a Cobra.

But I've never seen Z wearing lipstick.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: LoneStarCubFan on September 11, 2008, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

If they come up and in on one guy tonight Pujols needs to take one in the dome. I know he'll just up his HGH dosage to get back into the line-up quicker but Piniella needs to go right to the nuclear option if LaRussa decides to dust somebody.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 11, 2008, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 11, 2008, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

If they come up and in on one guy tonight Pujols needs to take one in the dome. I know he'll just up his HGH dosage to get back into the line-up quicker but Piniella needs to go right to the nuclear option if LaRussa decides to dust somebody.

Harden got any history of drilling dudes?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Eli on September 11, 2008, 09:27:22 AM
Quote from: RV on September 11, 2008, 09:17:42 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 08:53:37 AM

I want to know if Z feels threatened that he's not the team's #1 badass any more, and if he intends to do something to reclaim his title?

Different kinds of badassery involved anyway. To use the lingo of abusive relationships (which is totally inappropriate in context, but I don't care), Z is a Pit Bull and Theodore Roosevelt is a Cobra.

But I've never seen Z wearing lipstick.

Sexist.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Dave B on September 11, 2008, 09:31:47 AM
Here's The Genius' take on the paly in Houston in April:

Cooper declined to discuss the incident. But Cardinals manager Tony La Russa issued a warning to Towles earlier in the day before the incident between Pujols and Backe. In Monday's game, Towles was involved in a home-plate collision with Troy Glaus in the ninth inning.

"I thought Albert did a fantastic job sliding to take his legs out," La Russa said. "The kid is not giving anybody room to slide, so that's what we teach. He's going to get blasted one of these days"."
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 09:40:55 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 11, 2008, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

If they come up and in on one guy tonight Pujols needs to take one in the dome. I know he'll just up his HGH dosage to get back into the line-up quicker but Piniella needs to go right to the nuclear option if LaRussa decides to dust somebody.

Harden got any history of drilling dudes?

If so, Yeti has a pill for him...
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Taylor2 on September 11, 2008, 09:56:58 AM
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20080910&content_id=3451853&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20080910&content_id=3451853&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc)

Ted claims he didn't hear 100 year old Lou say to go out and kick some ass.

QuoteOn Tuesday, Piniella had said the Cubs needed to be more aggressive and kick some butt. Did Lilly hear his manager's tirade?

"No, I wasn't [aware of it]," Lilly said. "I have no idea what he said, honestly."

So it wasn't discussed among the players?

"He was upset with our team?" Lilly asked. "He might be over 100, but he still has a lot of fire in him. He hasn't lost that, especially when we're losing tough games. That's going to tick him off. I don't hold that against him. The guys know we've got to win. We've got to find ways to win."

One hundred years old?

"He looks pretty good," Lilly said with a smile.

I wonder what damage he would have done to the rest of the Tards if he did hear it.

QuoteHis teammates didn't say anything when Lilly came into the dugout. Soriano's reaction?

"Surprised," Soriano said. "You never know what Lilly's doing. I don't know what he has in his mind. Thank God, he didn't hurt himself. I think that's the key of the game tonight."

Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:00:06 AM
Quote from: Taylor2 on September 11, 2008, 09:56:58 AM
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20080910&content_id=3451853&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20080910&content_id=3451853&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc)

Ted claims he didn't hear 100 year old Lou say to go out and kick some ass.

QuoteOn Tuesday, Piniella had said the Cubs needed to be more aggressive and kick some butt. Did Lilly hear his manager's tirade?

"No, I wasn't [aware of it]," Lilly said. "I have no idea what he said, honestly."

So it wasn't discussed among the players?

"He was upset with our team?" Lilly asked. "He might be over 100, but he still has a lot of fire in him. He hasn't lost that, especially when we're losing tough games. That's going to tick him off. I don't hold that against him. The guys know we've got to win. We've got to find ways to win."

One hundred years old?

"He looks pretty good," Lilly said with a smile.

I wonder what damage he would have done to the rest of the Tards if he did hear it.

I wonder how hard it would have been to find piano wire and quicklime in the St. Louis area for the next few days afterwards.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Mike Douche on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Mike Douche on September 11, 2008, 10:10:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

1 pitch.

Perfection.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Uncouth Sloth on September 11, 2008, 10:16:06 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.

As long as the Greenberg's still played for the Cubs, I'd watch it.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.

I put it to you: 40 Greenbergs or 40 Theriots... Pick your horse.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.

I put it to you: 40 Greenbergs or 40 Theriots... Pick your horse.

I imagine the 40 Greenbergs would be no fun to watch, and...upon reflection, the game would be called in the first inning after the entire roster suffered season-ending injuries (but scoring 10 runs in the process)
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.

I put it to you: 40 Greenbergs or 40 Theriots... Pick your horse.

I imagine the 40 Greenbergs would be no fun to watch, and...upon reflection, the game would be called in the first inning after the entire roster suffered season-ending injuries (but scoring 10 runs in the process)

Wouldn't they score 22 runs?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.

I put it to you: 40 Greenbergs or 40 Theriots... Pick your horse.

I imagine the 40 Greenbergs would be no fun to watch, and...upon reflection, the game would be called in the first inning after the entire roster suffered season-ending injuries (but scoring 10 runs in the process)

Wouldn't they score 22 runs?

This is the 40-man roster.

EDIT: wait...I failed to take pinch running into account...I doubt the rules cover what happens when no on is left to run.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.

I put it to you: 40 Greenbergs or 40 Theriots... Pick your horse.

I imagine the 40 Greenbergs would be no fun to watch, and...upon reflection, the game would be called in the first inning after the entire roster suffered season-ending injuries (but scoring 10 runs in the process)

Wouldn't they score 22 runs?

If you have to pitch run for each hit batsman, and assuming a 25-man All-Greenberg roster, my back-of-the-envelope calculations have you running out of players after scoring only 13 runs.

Edit... Scratch that and bate your breath...
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.

I put it to you: 40 Greenbergs or 40 Theriots... Pick your horse.

I imagine the 40 Greenbergs would be no fun to watch, and...upon reflection, the game would be called in the first inning after the entire roster suffered season-ending injuries (but scoring 10 runs in the process)

Wouldn't they score 22 runs?

If you have to pitch run for each hit batsman, and assuming a 25-man All-Greenberg roster, my back-of-the-envelope calculations have you running out of players after scoring only 13 runs.

Wouldn't the pinch runners take over the at bat as the rotation went around?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: RV on September 11, 2008, 10:40:49 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 11, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike D on September 11, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

Sounds like as good a time as any to offer Dubois, Fox and SAM FULD their September cups of coffee.

Too bad Moonlight Greenberg is no longer in the organization.

Yeah, too bad.  He had that one great plate appearance.

1.000 OBP, Ogden!

My Laptop science says that a team of Greenberg's would score an infinite amount of runs. Unfortunately, the game of baseball as we know it would collapse, as the first inning of the first game they ever played would never end.

I put it to you: 40 Greenbergs or 40 Theriots... Pick your horse.

I imagine the 40 Greenbergs would be no fun to watch, and...upon reflection, the game would be called in the first inning after the entire roster suffered season-ending injuries (but scoring 10 runs in the process)

Wouldn't they score 22 runs?

If you have to pitch run for each hit batsman, and assuming a 25-man All-Greenberg roster, my back-of-the-envelope calculations have you running out of players after scoring only 13 runs.

Wouldn't the pinch runners take over the at bat as the rotation went around?

What if there was a black hole in the dugout, so that when each injured Greenberg was helped off the field he fell back into the batters box?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Cade on September 11, 2008, 10:42:33 AM
Glad to see that LaRussa is keeping it classy, as usual.

Soriano apparently values his life and respects the killing power of TRL.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:44:43 AM
Let's do this again...

You would deplete a 25-man roster in 17 straight career-ending HBPs.

14 runs would score, assuming you are credited with a run scored on the 17th hit batsman, despite not having a pinch runner to take over for him on the basepath.

Edit... Then again, this might not be totally right, either. Baseball is hard.

Edit again... I take that back. I think 14 runs is my final answer.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 10:47:57 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:44:43 AM
Let's do this again...

You would deplete a 25-man roster in 17 straight career-ending HBPs.

14 runs would score, assuming you are credited with a run scored on the 17th hit batsman, despite not having a pinch runner to take over for him on the basepath.

Thank you for caring enough to do the math I was in no way inclined nor likely skilled enough to do.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 11, 2008, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:44:43 AM
Let's do this again...

You would deplete a 25-man roster in 17 straight career-ending HBPs.

14 runs would score, assuming you are credited with a run scored on the 17th hit batsman, despite not having a pinch runner to take over for him on the basepath.

Edit... Then again, this might not be totally right, either. Baseball is hard.

Edit again... I take that back. I think 14 runs is my final answer.

Expanded rosters. you get to have 40.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Dave B on September 11, 2008, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: Cade on September 11, 2008, 10:42:33 AM
Glad to see that LaRussa is keeping it classy, as usual.

Soriano apparently values his life and respects the killing power of TRL.

I see Lilly as the kind of a guy who causes all the laughter and jocularity of a locker room to cease when he walks by because his teammates fear his psychotic nature.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Taylor2 on September 11, 2008, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: Cade on September 11, 2008, 10:42:33 AM
Glad to see that LaRussa is keeping it classy, as usual.

Soriano apparently values his life and respects the killing power of TRL.

The best part is that while TR Lilly distracted everyone with the elbow to Yadi's head he did the real damage with a knee to his groin.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 11, 2008, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:44:43 AM
Let's do this again...

You would deplete a 25-man roster in 17 straight career-ending HBPs.

14 runs would score, assuming you are credited with a run scored on the 17th hit batsman, despite not having a pinch runner to take over for him on the basepath.

Edit... Then again, this might not be totally right, either. Baseball is hard.

Edit again... I take that back. I think 14 runs is my final answer.

Expanded rosters. you get to have 40.

I gave up on that point as no one else seemed to care.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: LoneStarCubFan on September 11, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 11, 2008, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

If they come up and in on one guy tonight Pujols needs to take one in the dome. I know he'll just up his HGH dosage to get back into the line-up quicker but Piniella needs to go right to the nuclear option if LaRussa decides to dust somebody.

Harden got any history of drilling dudes?

Don't know but he strikes me as the kind of guy who would do it and not think twice about it.

I'd rather sacrifice one of the guys who got called up from Iowa. Or, better yet, Howry. Assuming he could hit what he was throwing at.

Pujols' dome is Bondsesque in size though. Ought to be able to find that.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Waco Kid on September 11, 2008, 11:09:45 AM
Quite a duo on the Cubs pitching staff. Make them angry and you either get punched silly or piano wired.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 11:13:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on September 11, 2008, 10:44:43 AM
Let's do this again...

You would deplete a 25-man roster in 17 straight career-ending HBPs.

14 runs would score, assuming you are credited with a run scored on the 17th hit batsman, despite not having a pinch runner to take over for him on the basepath.

Edit... Then again, this might not be totally right, either. Baseball is hard.

Edit again... I take that back. I think 14 runs is my final answer.

Expanded rosters. you get to have 40.

I was working under the assumption that this inning is going down on the first Sunday in April, or thereabouts.

Two forfeits later would find you down 34 Greenbergs.

The only question left to consider is whether you replace the Greenbergs lost from the 25-man entirely with Theriots.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Mike Douche on September 11, 2008, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 11, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 11, 2008, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

If they come up and in on one guy tonight Pujols needs to take one in the dome. I know he'll just up his HGH dosage to get back into the line-up quicker but Piniella needs to go right to the nuclear option if LaRussa decides to dust somebody.

Harden got any history of drilling dudes?

Don't know but he strikes me as the kind of guy who would do it and not think twice about it.

I'd rather sacrifice one of the guys who got called up from Iowa. Or, better yet, Howry. Assuming he could hit what he was throwing at.

Pujols' dome is Bondsesque in size though. Ought to be able to find that.

Howy's problem hasn't been that he has no control, but rather too much-- his fastball is of the Bob Scanlan variety--straight as a goddamn arrow.

Which really makes hima  good candidate for the patsy.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Rooster on September 11, 2008, 12:09:34 PM
Quote from: RV on September 11, 2008, 08:41:07 AM
Quote from: Taylor2 on September 11, 2008, 08:05:59 AM
QuoteLilly said he had not intended to injure Molina, who left the game three innings after taking a knee to the left thigh on a tag play at the plate.

"First of all, I hope he's not hurt," Lilly said. "It's not something I was trying to do and it's almost more dangerous if I slide and my only other option is to stand there and let him tag me. At that point in the game, it's useful.

"I don't know if I'm going to go eight innings and not give up another run so I feel like we have to do what we have to do to score more runs."

Molina left the game after the thigh tightened on him and expects to miss a couple of games. He had not been expecting a collision, given the pitcher was running.

Today Ted might have to pinch run and not intend to injure Fat Albert.

Surprise! The Jockey told me that the Genius is shocked and appalled at Ted's despicable actions.

QuotePiniella said Lilly wasn't supposed to run on the grounder by Derrek Lee, but he added it was a clean play. St. Louis manager Tony La Russa said the Cubs "play the game hard," adding "it goes both ways."

But when asked about Lilly's performance, La Russa hedged.

"I'll let the other team talk about him," he snapped. "I have no comment about him."

Whether there will be any repercussions Thursday remains to be seen.

La Russa is just a miserable piece of shit.

Hard-nose baseball.  That's what he's all about.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Rooster on September 11, 2008, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 11, 2008, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: 5laky on September 11, 2008, 08:59:55 AM
Great, let's see him throw at one of our guys' hands and knock him out for the year. That'd be swell.

If they come up and in on one guy tonight Pujols needs to take one in the dome. I know he'll just up his HGH dosage to get back into the line-up quicker but Piniella needs to go right to the nuclear option if LaRussa decides to dust somebody.

Harden got any history of drilling dudes?

All that time in the Bay area?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 14, 2008, 10:44:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 08:53:37 AM

I want to know if Z feels threatened that he's not the team's #1 badass any more, and if he intends to do something to reclaim his title?

This.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Dave B on September 15, 2008, 10:47:26 AM
More Cardinals hi-jinks from over the weekend:

"It may actually be past that point. In the eighth inning, Villone elbowed his way into the center of an on-field squabble between infielder Aaron Miles and Pirates infielder Doug Mientkiewicz. With the Pirates leading by five runs, Mientkiewicz swatted the ball out of Miles' glove and spoiled a would-be double play. Miles later called it a "dirty play."

"The guy swiped — he swiped it," said La Russa, who exchanged words with Mientkiewicz when he went out to argue the call. "He's acting like he's innocent. The tape doesn't lie. A swipe like that — that's a double play, that's what it is."

The next batter hit a soft liner to shortstop Brendan Ryan, who pivoted and threw to second to catch Mientkiewicz straying. As he tapped the base, Miles chided, "You're out. You're gone. You're out of here." He then trotted off as umpire Gary Darling held back a raging Mientkiewicz. Dugouts emptied. Villone entered the exchange when he thought Mientkiewicz said something to him. At one point, it took four teammates to restrain Villone.

He and Mientkiewicz were ejected.

"With the crazed animal that Ronny is, that's not exactly the guy you want to make mad," Mientkiewicz joked after the game. He came clean on the play. "I went after the glove to try to knock the ball out. ... We were up five, and I think we all know that a five-run lead for us is not exactly insurmountable."
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: LoneStarCubFan on September 15, 2008, 10:49:26 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 15, 2008, 10:47:26 AM
More Cardinals hi-jinks from over the weekend:

"It may actually be past that point. In the eighth inning, Villone elbowed his way into the center of an on-field squabble between infielder Aaron Miles and Pirates infielder Doug Mientkiewicz. With the Pirates leading by five runs, Mientkiewicz swatted the ball out of Miles' glove and spoiled a would-be double play. Miles later called it a "dirty play."

"The guy swiped — he swiped it," said La Russa, who exchanged words with Mientkiewicz when he went out to argue the call. "He's acting like he's innocent. The tape doesn't lie. A swipe like that — that's a double play, that's what it is."

The next batter hit a soft liner to shortstop Brendan Ryan, who pivoted and threw to second to catch Mientkiewicz straying. As he tapped the base, Miles chided, "You're out. You're gone. You're out of here." He then trotted off as umpire Gary Darling held back a raging Mientkiewicz. Dugouts emptied. Villone entered the exchange when he thought Mientkiewicz said something to him. At one point, it took four teammates to restrain Villone.

He and Mientkiewicz were ejected.

"With the crazed animal that Ronny is, that's not exactly the guy you want to make mad," Mientkiewicz joked after the game. He came clean on the play. "I went after the glove to try to knock the ball out. ... We were up five, and I think we all know that a five-run lead for us is not exactly insurmountable."


Awesome.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Uncouth Sloth on September 15, 2008, 10:51:58 AM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on September 15, 2008, 10:49:26 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 15, 2008, 10:47:26 AM
More Cardinals hi-jinks from over the weekend:

"It may actually be past that point. In the eighth inning, Villone elbowed his way into the center of an on-field squabble between infielder Aaron Miles and Pirates infielder Doug Mientkiewicz. With the Pirates leading by five runs, Mientkiewicz swatted the ball out of Miles' glove and spoiled a would-be double play. Miles later called it a "dirty play."

"The guy swiped — he swiped it," said La Russa, who exchanged words with Mientkiewicz when he went out to argue the call. "He's acting like he's innocent. The tape doesn't lie. A swipe like that — that's a double play, that's what it is."

The next batter hit a soft liner to shortstop Brendan Ryan, who pivoted and threw to second to catch Mientkiewicz straying. As he tapped the base, Miles chided, "You're out. You're gone. You're out of here." He then trotted off as umpire Gary Darling held back a raging Mientkiewicz. Dugouts emptied. Villone entered the exchange when he thought Mientkiewicz said something to him. At one point, it took four teammates to restrain Villone.

He and Mientkiewicz were ejected.

"With the crazed animal that Ronny is, that's not exactly the guy you want to make mad," Mientkiewicz joked after the game. He came clean on the play. "I went after the glove to try to knock the ball out. ... We were up five, and I think we all know that a five-run lead for us is not exactly insurmountable."


Awesome.

Dougie Eyechart +1
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kerm on September 15, 2008, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 15, 2008, 10:47:26 AM
More Cardinals hi-jinks from over the weekend:

"It may actually be past that point. In the eighth inning, Villone elbowed his way into the center of an on-field squabble between infielder Aaron Miles and Pirates infielder Doug Mientkiewicz. With the Pirates leading by five runs, Mientkiewicz swatted the ball out of Miles' glove and spoiled a would-be double play. Miles later called it a "dirty play."

"The guy swiped — he swiped it," said La Russa, who exchanged words with Mientkiewicz when he went out to argue the call. "He's acting like he's innocent. The tape doesn't lie. A swipe like that — that's a double play, that's what it is."

The next batter hit a soft liner to shortstop Brendan Ryan, who pivoted and threw to second to catch Mientkiewicz straying. As he tapped the base, Miles chided, "You're out. You're gone. You're out of here." He then trotted off as umpire Gary Darling held back a raging Mientkiewicz. Dugouts emptied. Villone entered the exchange when he thought Mientkiewicz said something to him. At one point, it took four teammates to restrain Villone.

He and Mientkiewicz were ejected.

"With the crazed animal that Ronny is, that's not exactly the guy you want to make mad," Mientkiewicz joked after the game. He came clean on the play. "I went after the glove to try to knock the ball out. ... We were up five, and I think we all know that a five-run lead for us is not exactly insurmountable."


Aaron Miles is such a badass.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Dave B on September 15, 2008, 11:08:20 AM
Yeah, Miles came across like a douche there, but I'd take him over Ronny Cedeno as a utility infielder for 2009.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: morpheus on September 15, 2008, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: Kerm on September 15, 2008, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 15, 2008, 10:47:26 AM
More Cardinals hi-jinks from over the weekend:

"It may actually be past that point. In the eighth inning, Villone elbowed his way into the center of an on-field squabble between infielder Aaron Miles and Pirates infielder Doug Mientkiewicz. With the Pirates leading by five runs, Mientkiewicz swatted the ball out of Miles' glove and spoiled a would-be double play. Miles later called it a "dirty play."

"The guy swiped — he swiped it," said La Russa, who exchanged words with Mientkiewicz when he went out to argue the call. "He's acting like he's innocent. The tape doesn't lie. A swipe like that — that's a double play, that's what it is."

The next batter hit a soft liner to shortstop Brendan Ryan, who pivoted and threw to second to catch Mientkiewicz straying. As he tapped the base, Miles chided, "You're out. You're gone. You're out of here." He then trotted off as umpire Gary Darling held back a raging Mientkiewicz. Dugouts emptied. Villone entered the exchange when he thought Mientkiewicz said something to him. At one point, it took four teammates to restrain Villone.

He and Mientkiewicz were ejected.

"With the crazed animal that Ronny is, that's not exactly the guy you want to make mad," Mientkiewicz joked after the game. He came clean on the play. "I went after the glove to try to knock the ball out. ... We were up five, and I think we all know that a five-run lead for us is not exactly insurmountable."


Aaron Miles is such a badass.

I know.  The St. Louis Cardinals' fans told me so.  http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5814799

Although, you appear to have misspelled bada55.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Philberto on September 15, 2008, 02:52:45 PM
Theodore on his way to perfection???
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 15, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2008, 10:44:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 11, 2008, 08:53:37 AM

I want to know if Z feels threatened that he's not the team's #1 badass any more, and if he intends to do something to reclaim his title?

This.
Man, TR does NOT like to be shown up.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Philberto on September 15, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
Mark Loretta = Dead tomorrow
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Jon on September 15, 2008, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 15, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
Mark Loretta = Dead tomorrow

THey'll be finding pieces of him for years to come.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Taylor2 on September 15, 2008, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 15, 2008, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 15, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
Mark Loretta = Dead tomorrow

THey'll be finding pieces of him for years to come.

Only after Ted shits them out.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: JD on September 27, 2008, 04:55:18 PM
How bout the cold-blooded effort from Lilly today?  The Brewers look at the cubs lineup and think they're gettin' a gift win.  Then, Ted Lilly decides to shove it up their booty holes for 6 innings.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Irwin Felch on September 27, 2008, 05:06:07 PM
Reed doesn't slip and Pie isn't lazy, Lilly might still be rolling along.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: JD on September 27, 2008, 05:09:22 PM
Quote from: Irwin Felch on September 27, 2008, 05:06:07 PM
Reed doesn't slip and Pie isn't lazy, Lilly might still be rolling along.

Pie's not lazy.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2008, 11:11:09 AM
Quote from: JD on September 27, 2008, 04:55:18 PM
How bout the cold-blooded effort from Lilly today?  The Brewers look at the cubs lineup and think they're gettin' a gift win.  Then, Ted Lilly decides to shove it up their booty holes for 6 innings.

Pitching in Dahmer's hometown seems to agree with Ted.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Internet Apex on September 28, 2008, 11:51:06 AM
The most volatile sociopath in the world on hits: "No."
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Philberto on September 28, 2008, 12:34:56 PM
So if the Cubs happen to be playing in Milwaukee in the NLCS, Lilly pitches every one of those games right?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: TJ on September 28, 2008, 12:47:59 PM
No. Zambrano pitches Game 4. Lilly in Game 3.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: RV on July 24, 2009, 01:12:21 PM
Ted Lilly. Scratched from tomorrow's start. (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4353811)
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Kermit, B. on July 24, 2009, 01:47:36 PM
Ted Lilly.  An injured Cub (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/07/cubs-lilly-headed-to-disabled-list.html).

Man, this has been a rough season.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Eli on July 24, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
And now Ted Lilly is injured while Vicente Padilla isnt.  great choice, hendry.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Shooter on July 24, 2009, 03:34:44 PM
Is it his stabbing shoulder?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 24, 2009, 03:44:51 PM
Clearly the Cubs will now get both Peavy and Halladay.  Look out, Diamondbacks Dodgers October!
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: fiveouts on July 24, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on July 24, 2009, 03:44:51 PM
Clearly the Cubs will now get both Peavy and Halladay.  Look out, Diamondbacks Dodgers OctoberNovember!


WBC'd. 
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Andy on July 24, 2009, 09:26:07 PM
Bring Marquis back!
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Internet Apex on July 24, 2009, 10:24:52 PM
Quote from: Andy on July 24, 2009, 09:26:07 PM
Bring Marquis Wuertz DeRo McGeehee back!

2008 World Series Champs'd.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2009, 09:50:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 24, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
And now Ted Lilly is injured while Vicente Padilla isnt.  great choice, hendry.

Um, @BaseballStone, the CDC disagrees. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sns-ap-bba-rangers-padilla-swine-flu,0,2992157.story)
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Eli on July 25, 2009, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 25, 2009, 09:50:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 24, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
And now Ted Lilly is injured while Vicente Padilla isnt.  great choice, hendry.

Um, @BaseballStone, the CDC disagrees. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sns-ap-bba-rangers-padilla-swine-flu,0,2992157.story)

Well, that's kind of weird.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Ivy6 on July 25, 2009, 10:02:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 25, 2009, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 25, 2009, 09:50:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 24, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
And now Ted Lilly is injured while Vicente Padilla isnt.  great choice, hendry.

Um, @BaseballStone, the CDC disagrees. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sns-ap-bba-rangers-padilla-swine-flu,0,2992157.story)

Well, that's kind of weird.

Vicente Padilla is the personification of the swine flu.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
I was at a gas station about a mile and a half from HoHo Kam today.  As I finished filling up, some ridiculous salesman came up to me (with a weird, chubby "assistant") to try and sell me on some car cleaner "endorsed by NASCAR!"  He showed me all the ways in which this cleaner would be great for the car I was driving.  I waited for him to finish his sales pitch before I told him that the car I was filling up was a rental and I didn't need car cleaner.  That didn't stop him; he continued his sales pitch unabated for another 2-3 minutes before I just had to say "enough-I said no."  The guy shook my hand and thanked me while still getting one more pitch in.  It was exhausting.

As he finished, Ted Lilly began filling up his SUV at the station next to mine.  The guy moved away from me as quickly as possible, dragging the chubby assistant to Lilly's car, readying his relentless sales pitch.  Before the salesman said a word, Lilly looked at him.  Stared at him for about 2 seconds and said not a word. 

The salesman walked away without a single sentence. 







That salesman recognized.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 04:14:42 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
I was at a gas station about a mile and a half from HoHo Kam today.  As I finished filling up, some ridiculous salesman came up to me (with a weird, chubby "assistant") to try and sell me on some car cleaner "endorsed by NASCAR!"  He showed me all the ways in which this cleaner would be great for the car I was driving.  I waited for him to finish his sales pitch before I told him that the car I was filling up was a rental and I didn't need car cleaner.  That didn't stop him; he continued his sales pitch unabated for another 2-3 minutes before I just had to say "enough-I said no."  The guy shook my hand and thanked me while still getting one more pitch in.  It was exhausting.

As he finished, Ted Lilly began filling up his SUV at the station next to mine.  The guy moved away from me as quickly as possible, dragging the chubby assistant to Lilly's car, readying his relentless sales pitch.  Before the salesman said a word, Lilly looked at him.  Stared at him for about 2 seconds and said not a word. 

The salesman walked away without a single sentence. 







That salesman recognized.

I love this story. It is truly terrifying from start to finish.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
I was at a gas station about a mile and a half from HoHo Kam today.  As I finished filling up, some ridiculous salesman came up to me (with a weird, chubby "assistant") to try and sell me on some car cleaner "endorsed by NASCAR!"  He showed me all the ways in which this cleaner would be great for the car I was driving.  I waited for him to finish his sales pitch before I told him that the car I was filling up was a rental and I didn't need car cleaner.  That didn't stop him; he continued his sales pitch unabated for another 2-3 minutes before I just had to say "enough-I said no."  The guy shook my hand and thanked me while still getting one more pitch in.  It was exhausting.

As he finished, Ted Lilly began filling up his SUV at the station next to mine.  The guy moved away from me as quickly as possible, dragging the chubby assistant to Lilly's car, readying his relentless sales pitch.  Before the salesman said a word, Lilly looked at him.  Stared at him for about 2 seconds and said not a word. 

The salesman walked away without a single sentence. 







That salesman recognized.

I'm not saying you're lying, I'm just saying that if you found a full-service gas station anywhere in Arizona, you're lying.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
I was at a gas station about a mile and a half from HoHo Kam today.  As I finished filling up, some ridiculous salesman came up to me (with a weird, chubby "assistant") to try and sell me on some car cleaner "endorsed by NASCAR!"  He showed me all the ways in which this cleaner would be great for the car I was driving.  I waited for him to finish his sales pitch before I told him that the car I was filling up was a rental and I didn't need car cleaner.  That didn't stop him; he continued his sales pitch unabated for another 2-3 minutes before I just had to say "enough-I said no."  The guy shook my hand and thanked me while still getting one more pitch in.  It was exhausting.

As he finished, Ted Lilly began filling up his SUV at the station next to mine.  The guy moved away from me as quickly as possible, dragging the chubby assistant to Lilly's car, readying his relentless sales pitch.  Before the salesman said a word, Lilly looked at him.  Stared at him for about 2 seconds and said not a word. 

The salesman walked away without a single sentence. 







That salesman recognized.

I'm not saying you're lying, I'm just saying that if you found a full-service gas station anywhere in Arizona, you're lying.

We get it. You're a Mountain Time Zone TDubbs who can't read.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Slaky on February 17, 2010, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
I was at a gas station about a mile and a half from HoHo Kam today.  As I finished filling up, some ridiculous salesman came up to me (with a weird, chubby "assistant") to try and sell me on some car cleaner "endorsed by NASCAR!"  He showed me all the ways in which this cleaner would be great for the car I was driving.  I waited for him to finish his sales pitch before I told him that the car I was filling up was a rental and I didn't need car cleaner.  That didn't stop him; he continued his sales pitch unabated for another 2-3 minutes before I just had to say "enough-I said no."  The guy shook my hand and thanked me while still getting one more pitch in.  It was exhausting.

As he finished, Ted Lilly began filling up his SUV at the station next to mine.  The guy moved away from me as quickly as possible, dragging the chubby assistant to Lilly's car, readying his relentless sales pitch.  Before the salesman said a word, Lilly looked at him.  Stared at him for about 2 seconds and said not a word.  

The salesman walked away without a single sentence.  







That salesman recognized.

I'm not saying you're lying, I'm just saying that if you found a full-service gas station anywhere in Arizona, you're lying.

We get it. You're a Mountain Time Zone TDubbs who can't read.

Look, it's a great story and I don't want to call fiveouts a liar, but if Rick Sutcliffe was really sitting next to him at Arby's in Topeka I'm calling shenanigans.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: MAD on February 17, 2010, 05:11:26 PM
I don't want to call fiveouts a liar, but if he's trying to convince us he had sex with Christine Hendricks, I'm calling him a liar.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Gilgamesh on February 17, 2010, 05:13:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 17, 2010, 05:11:26 PM
I don't want to call fiveouts a liar, but if he's trying to convince us he had sex with Christine Christina Hendricks, I'm calling him a liar.

Snozberries'd.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: JD on February 17, 2010, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
I was at a gas station about a mile and a half from HoHo Kam today.  As I finished filling up, some ridiculous salesman came up to me (with a weird, chubby "assistant") to try and sell me on some car cleaner "endorsed by NASCAR!"  He showed me all the ways in which this cleaner would be great for the car I was driving.  I waited for him to finish his sales pitch before I told him that the car I was filling up was a rental and I didn't need car cleaner.  That didn't stop him; he continued his sales pitch unabated for another 2-3 minutes before I just had to say "enough-I said no."  The guy shook my hand and thanked me while still getting one more pitch in.  It was exhausting.

As he finished, Ted Lilly began filling up his SUV at the station next to mine.  The guy moved away from me as quickly as possible, dragging the chubby assistant to Lilly's car, readying his relentless sales pitch.  Before the salesman said a word, Lilly looked at him.  Stared at him for about 2 seconds and said not a word. 

The salesman walked away without a single sentence. 







That salesman recognized.

What was the name of the car cleaner?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:25:06 PM
Quote from: JD on February 17, 2010, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
I was at a gas station about a mile and a half from HoHo Kam today.  As I finished filling up, some ridiculous salesman came up to me (with a weird, chubby "assistant") to try and sell me on some car cleaner "endorsed by NASCAR!"  He showed me all the ways in which this cleaner would be great for the car I was driving.  I waited for him to finish his sales pitch before I told him that the car I was filling up was a rental and I didn't need car cleaner.  That didn't stop him; he continued his sales pitch unabated for another 2-3 minutes before I just had to say "enough-I said no."  The guy shook my hand and thanked me while still getting one more pitch in.  It was exhausting.

As he finished, Ted Lilly began filling up his SUV at the station next to mine.  The guy moved away from me as quickly as possible, dragging the chubby assistant to Lilly's car, readying his relentless sales pitch.  Before the salesman said a word, Lilly looked at him.  Stared at him for about 2 seconds and said not a word. 

The salesman walked away without a single sentence. 







That salesman recognized.

What was the name of the car cleaner?



That's the strange thing.  He never said.  He told me how it (a) worked as both a cleaner and wax, (b) worked on windows (and prevented smudges for up to six weeks) and (c) could be used on rims to prevent "brake dust" from forming on my hubcaps.  But the guy never said the name of the product. 



However, the cleaner did get me in Christina Hendricks' pants, so I can't complain.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: JD on February 17, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:25:06 PM

However, the cleaner did get me in Christina Hendricks' pants, so I can't complain.

What size does she wear?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: JD on February 17, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:25:06 PM

However, the cleaner did get me in Christina Hendricks' pants, so I can't complain.

What size does she wear?


About 9 inches.  Fuckin' A. 
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Slaky on February 17, 2010, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: JD on February 17, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:25:06 PM

However, the cleaner did get me in Christina Hendricks' pants, so I can't complain.

What size does she wear?


About 9 inches.  Fuckin' A. 

That's a tiny waist. So, just curious...how big is your penis?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 17, 2010, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: JD on February 17, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:25:06 PM

However, the cleaner did get me in Christina Hendricks' pants, so I can't complain.

What size does she wear?


About 9 inches.  Fuckin' A.  

That's a tiny waist. So, just curious...how big is your penis?


Ohhhh, man.  You wouldn't even believe it.  The ladies love me.



On a completely unrelated note, how many inches are in 60 millimeters?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: CT III on February 17, 2010, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 17, 2010, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: JD on February 17, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:25:06 PM

However, the cleaner did get me in Christina Hendricks' pants, so I can't complain.

What size does she wear?


About 9 inches.  Fuckin' A.  

That's a tiny waist. So, just curious...how big is your penis?


Ohhhh, man.  You wouldn't even believe it.  The ladies love me.



On a completely unrelated note, how many inches are in 60 millimeters?

I have no idea, but it doesn't sound like very many football fields.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Wheezer on February 17, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:25:06 PM
That's the strange thing.  He never said.  He told me how it (a) worked as both a cleaner and wax, (b) worked on windows (and prevented smudges for up to six weeks) and (c) could be used on rims to prevent "brake dust" from forming on my hubcaps.  But the guy never said the name of the product. 

No mention of use as a dessert topping?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Richard Chuggar on February 17, 2010, 07:38:30 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 17, 2010, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: JD on February 17, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 17, 2010, 05:25:06 PM

However, the cleaner did get me in Christina Hendricks' pants, so I can't complain.

What size does she wear?


About 9 inches.  Fuckin' A.  

That's a tiny waist. So, just curious...how big is your penis?


Ohhhh, man.  You wouldn't even believe it.  The ladies love me.



On a completely unrelated note, how many inches are in 60 millimeters?

I'm not saying you're a liar, but do you have a blog?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 07:41:34 PM
This thread is on a fucking tear. I think it's going to the Final Four. Who's coming with me?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Wheezer on February 17, 2010, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 07:41:34 PM
This thread is on a fucking tear. I think it's going to the Final Four. Who's coming with me?

http://www.myscienceproject.org/condoms.html
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: PenPho on September 01, 2010, 01:30:41 PM
Even though the 2011 Cubs will probably suck and it makes little sense to add significant payroll, I was still holding out hope that Ted Lilly would be back.
Because he's awesome and a badass.

Seems like the Dodgers think so too. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Rosenthal-Houston-Astros-analysis-083110)

Quote
The Dodgers had no interest in trading left-hander Ted Lilly, whom they pulled back from waivers after the Yankees won the claim. The team intends to pursue a multiyear deal with Lilly, a potential free agent, sources say.

Lilly wanted to sign with the Dodgers the last time he was a free agent, during the 2006-07 off-season. The Dodgers — ahem — signed right-hander Jason Schmidt to an ill-fated three-year, $47 million deal instead.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Brownie on September 01, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 01, 2010, 01:30:41 PM
Even though the 2011 Cubs will probably suck and it makes little sense to add significant payroll, I was still holding out hope that Ted Lilly would be back.
Because he's awesome and a badass.


But if they sign Lilly and his awesomeness continues, won't they suck a little less? Especially if they sign up Adam Dunn?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 01, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 01, 2010, 01:30:41 PM
Even though the 2011 Cubs will probably suck and it makes little sense to add significant payroll, I was still holding out hope that Ted Lilly would be back.
Because he's awesome and a badass.


But if they sign Lilly and his awesomeness continues, won't they suck a little less? Especially if they sign up Adam Dunn?

No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Eli on September 01, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.

Who are they realistically going to sign or trade for that will make an appreciable difference?  Adrian Gonzalez ain't walkin through that door.  Cliff Lee ain't walkin through that door.  Adam Dunn?  Well, Adam Dunn might be walkin through that door.  But that's about all he'll do, if you know what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: CT III on September 01, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.

Who are they realistically going to sign or trade for that will make an appreciable difference?  Adrian Gonzalez ain't walkin through that door.  Cliff Lee ain't walkin through that door.  Adam Dunn?  Well, Adam Dunn might be walkin through that door.  But that's about all he'll do, if you know what I'm saying.

I do not know what you are saying.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Bort on September 01, 2010, 02:07:01 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 01, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.

Who are they realistically going to sign or trade for that will make an appreciable difference?  Adrian Gonzalez ain't walkin through that door.  Cliff Lee ain't walkin through that door.  Adam Dunn?  Well, Adam Dunn might be walkin through that door.  But that's about all he'll do, if you know what I'm saying.

I do not know what you are saying.

HE'S SAYING HE GET'S THREE TRUE OUTCOMES, YOU STUPID CHIEF.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Yeti on September 01, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Ted Lilly. Adam Dunn.. That means 2 more moves before this team is a contender next year.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Eli on September 01, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 01, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.

Who are they realistically going to sign or trade for that will make an appreciable difference?  Adrian Gonzalez ain't walkin through that door.  Cliff Lee ain't walkin through that door.  Adam Dunn?  Well, Adam Dunn might be walkin through that door.  But that's about all he'll do, if you know what I'm saying.

I do not know what you are saying.

That explains a lot.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: CT III on September 01, 2010, 02:27:31 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 01, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.

Who are they realistically going to sign or trade for that will make an appreciable difference?  Adrian Gonzalez ain't walkin through that door.  Cliff Lee ain't walkin through that door.  Adam Dunn?  Well, Adam Dunn might be walkin through that door.  But that's about all he'll do, if you know what I'm saying.

I do not know what you are saying.

That explains a lot.

I disagree.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 01, 2010, 02:28:38 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 01, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 01, 2010, 01:30:41 PM
Even though the 2011 Cubs will probably suck and it makes little sense to add significant payroll, I was still holding out hope that Ted Lilly would be back.
Because he's awesome and a badass.


But if they sign Lilly and his awesomeness continues, won't they suck a little less? Especially if they sign up Adam Dunn?

No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.

I thought Sandberg was going to save them.

Or maybe it was Joe Girardi, I don't remember.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 01, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 01, 2010, 02:27:31 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 01, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.

Who are they realistically going to sign or trade for that will make an appreciable difference?  Adrian Gonzalez ain't walkin through that door.  Cliff Lee ain't walkin through that door.  Adam Dunn?  Well, Adam Dunn might be walkin through that door.  But that's about all he'll do, if you know what I'm saying.

I do not know what you are saying.

That explains a lot.

I disagree.

That explains even more.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: CT III on September 01, 2010, 03:08:11 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 01, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 01, 2010, 02:27:31 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 01, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 01, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 01, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
No, there is no possible way that next year's team can avoid 100 losses. No matter who they sign or trade for. It's already been decided.

Who are they realistically going to sign or trade for that will make an appreciable difference?  Adrian Gonzalez ain't walkin through that door.  Cliff Lee ain't walkin through that door.  Adam Dunn?  Well, Adam Dunn might be walkin through that door.  But that's about all he'll do, if you know what I'm saying.

I do not know what you are saying.

That explains a lot.

I disagree.

That explains even more.

Yeah, well this is exactly why you and Eli won't be getting any Dogfish Head's Bitches Brew.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 01, 2010, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 01, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Ted Lilly. Adam Dunn.. That means 2 more moves before this team is a contender next year.

Is this based on some sort of +/- system?
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 01, 2010, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 01, 2010, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 01, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Ted Lilly. Adam Dunn.. That means 2 more moves before this team is a contender next year.

Is this based on some sort of +/- system?

I'd forgotten all about that genius system.  Thank you for reminding me. (http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/01/best-system-ever.html)
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Tonker on September 02, 2010, 01:17:22 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 01, 2010, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 01, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Ted Lilly. Adam Dunn.. That means 2 more moves before this team is a contender next year.

Is this based on some sort of +/- system?

I'd forgotten all about that genius system.  Fuck you for reminding me.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: BH on May 13, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Bump.

Who wants Ted's house? No mention of the oversized furnace or butcher tables.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1305-West-Waveland-Avenue_Chicago_IL_60613_M80484-10378
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Tonker on May 13, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: BH on May 13, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Bump.

Who wants Ted's house? No mention of the oversized furnace or butcher tables.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1305-West-Waveland-Avenue_Chicago_IL_60613_M80484-10378

Man, real-estate wise you don't half get a lot more bang for your buck Stateside.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 13, 2011, 12:02:01 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 13, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: BH on May 13, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Bump.

Who wants Ted's house? No mention of the oversized furnace or butcher tables.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1305-West-Waveland-Avenue_Chicago_IL_60613_M80484-10378

Man, real-estate wise you don't half get a lot more bang for your buck Stateside.

The bang for your buck depends on whether you buy in Hoffman Estates or somewhere habitable instead.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Brownie on May 13, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 13, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: BH on May 13, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Bump.

Who wants Ted's house? No mention of the oversized furnace or butcher tables.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1305-West-Waveland-Avenue_Chicago_IL_60613_M80484-10378

Man, real-estate wise you don't half get a lot more bang for your buck Stateside.

It doesn't hurt the value of the property that it is a full city lot, and that it is three blocks away from Wrigley Field. Also doesn't hurt that it's a custom home. Even with the cachet of buying a former Cubs' starter's home (join the Section 242 club), expect this home to sell at a 15% discount, so $1.65MM for a 5,000 sq foot home isn't a bad haul.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 13, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 13, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 13, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: BH on May 13, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Bump.

Who wants Ted's house? No mention of the oversized furnace or butcher tables.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1305-West-Waveland-Avenue_Chicago_IL_60613_M80484-10378

Man, real-estate wise you don't half get a lot more bang for your buck Stateside.

It doesn't hurt the value of the property that it is a full city lot, and that it is three blocks away from Wrigley Field. Also doesn't hurt that it's a custom home. Even with the cachet of buying a former Cubs' starter's home (join the Section 242 club), expect this home to sell at a 15% discount, so $1.65MM for a 5,000 sq foot home isn't a bad haul.

That's roughly ZAR 11,6 million for a 1 square chain home for our foreign friend here.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: PenPho on May 13, 2011, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 13, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 13, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 13, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: BH on May 13, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Bump.

Who wants Ted's house? No mention of the oversized furnace or butcher tables.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1305-West-Waveland-Avenue_Chicago_IL_60613_M80484-10378

Man, real-estate wise you don't half get a lot more bang for your buck Stateside.

It doesn't hurt the value of the property that it is a full city lot, and that it is three blocks away from Wrigley Field. Also doesn't hurt that it's a custom home. Even with the cachet of buying a former Cubs' starter's home (join the Section 242 club), expect this home to sell at a 15% discount, so $1.65MM for a 5,000 sq foot home isn't a bad haul.

That's roughly ZAR 11,6 million for a 1 square chain home for our foreign friend here.

Plus, you can walk to the train.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Richard Chuggar on May 13, 2011, 02:04:23 PM
Quote from: PenPho on May 13, 2011, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 13, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 13, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 13, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: BH on May 13, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Bump.

Who wants Ted's house? No mention of the oversized furnace or butcher tables.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1305-West-Waveland-Avenue_Chicago_IL_60613_M80484-10378

Man, real-estate wise you don't half get a lot more bang for your buck Stateside.

It doesn't hurt the value of the property that it is a full city lot, and that it is three blocks away from Wrigley Field. Also doesn't hurt that it's a custom home. Even with the cachet of buying a former Cubs' starter's home (join the Section 242 club), expect this home to sell at a 15% discount, so $1.65MM for a 5,000 sq foot home isn't a bad haul.

That's roughly ZAR 11,6 million for a 1 square chain home for our foreign friend here.

Plus, you can walk to the train.

Why in the Sam Hell would anybody even think about proximity to public transportation when buying a home? 
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Brownie on March 04, 2014, 01:15:11 PM
This makes sense. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-ted-lilly-joins-chicago-cubs-front-office-20140304,0,1335453.story) Before they move forward and further on any rebuild -- the team or the stadium -- they hire the guy who might actually know where the bodies are buried.

Good to see the Bull Moose return.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Saul Goodman on March 04, 2014, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on March 04, 2014, 01:15:11 PM
This makes sense. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-ted-lilly-joins-chicago-cubs-front-office-20140304,0,1335453.story) Before they move forward and further on any rebuild -- the team or the stadium -- they hire the guy who might actually know where the bodies are buried.

Good to see the Bull Moose return.

Every successful operation needs a Mike Ehrmantraut.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on March 04, 2014, 02:47:39 PM
I can see Crane as Saul Goodman.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: InternetApex on March 04, 2014, 04:06:46 PM
No Sterling.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: InternetApex on March 04, 2014, 04:07:00 PM
No Chuck.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Saul Goodman on March 04, 2014, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 04, 2014, 04:06:46 PM
No Sterling.

At least we agree on No, Chuck.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: BigDrinky on March 05, 2014, 09:13:23 AM
At least I should feel a little less weird about wearing my Ted Lilly Cubs jersey to Wrigley this summer.  Probably not much less, though.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2014, 02:30:11 PM
Quote from: BigDrinky on March 05, 2014, 09:13:23 AM
At least I should feel a little less weird about wearing my Ted Lilly Cubs jersey to Wrigley this summer.  Probably not much less, though.

Anyone wearing a Lilly jersey would be a friend of mine. Don't know if that makes you feel more or less weird, though.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: PenFoe on January 23, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: SKO on January 23, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 23, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)

Does anyone remember where exactly the Ted Lilly Is an Axe Murderer meme began? Just curious. Feels like there was never a time I heard the name Ted Lilly without thinking of it.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on January 23, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 23, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)

Does anyone remember where exactly the Ted Lilly Is an Axe Murderer meme began? Just curious. Feels like there was never a time I heard the name Ted Lilly without thinking of it.

I think Kerm established it shortly after Lilly joined the Cubs.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Yeti on January 23, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 23, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 23, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)

Does anyone remember where exactly the Ted Lilly Is an Axe Murderer meme began? Just curious. Feels like there was never a time I heard the name Ted Lilly without thinking of it.

I think Kerm established it shortly after Lilly joined the Cubs.

Earliest reference I could find http://hirejimessian.com/2007/04/04/post-game-notes-cubs-at-reds-april-4-2007/
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: SKO on January 23, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 23, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 23, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 23, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)

Does anyone remember where exactly the Ted Lilly Is an Axe Murderer meme began? Just curious. Feels like there was never a time I heard the name Ted Lilly without thinking of it.

I think Kerm established it shortly after Lilly joined the Cubs.

Earliest reference I could find http://hirejimessian.com/2007/04/04/post-game-notes-cubs-at-reds-april-4-2007/


Hmm. Even that quote almost seems like it was already established, but barring further evidence I will declare Kerm the Progenitor of the meme.

Now if only we could get some kind of evidence that Kerm was real, and not some kind of myth.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on January 23, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 23, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 23, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 23, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)

Does anyone remember where exactly the Ted Lilly Is an Axe Murderer meme began? Just curious. Feels like there was never a time I heard the name Ted Lilly without thinking of it.

I think Kerm established it shortly after Lilly joined the Cubs.

Earliest reference I could find http://hirejimessian.com/2007/04/04/post-game-notes-cubs-at-reds-april-4-2007/


Hmm. Even that quote almost seems like it was already established, but barring further evidence I will declare Kerm the Progenitor of the meme.

Now if only we could get some kind of evidence that Kerm was real, and not some kind of myth.

Sounds like someone needs to hit the red-hot DuPage improv scene.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: CT III on January 23, 2015, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 23, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 23, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 23, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 23, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)

Does anyone remember where exactly the Ted Lilly Is an Axe Murderer meme began? Just curious. Feels like there was never a time I heard the name Ted Lilly without thinking of it.

I think Kerm established it shortly after Lilly joined the Cubs.

Earliest reference I could find http://hirejimessian.com/2007/04/04/post-game-notes-cubs-at-reds-april-4-2007/


Hmm. Even that quote almost seems like it was already established, but barring further evidence I will declare Kerm the Progenitor of the meme.

Now if only we could get some kind of evidence that Kerm was real, and not some kind of myth.

Sounds like someone needs to hit the red-hot DuPage improv scene.

I can confirm that the Kerm character is alive and well.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: InternetApex on January 23, 2015, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 23, 2015, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 23, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 23, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 23, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 23, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 23, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)

Does anyone remember where exactly the Ted Lilly Is an Axe Murderer meme began? Just curious. Feels like there was never a time I heard the name Ted Lilly without thinking of it.

I think Kerm established it shortly after Lilly joined the Cubs.

Earliest reference I could find http://hirejimessian.com/2007/04/04/post-game-notes-cubs-at-reds-april-4-2007/


Hmm. Even that quote almost seems like it was already established, but barring further evidence I will declare Kerm the Progenitor of the meme.

Now if only we could get some kind of evidence that Kerm was real, and not some kind of myth.

Sounds like someone needs to hit the red-hot DuPage improv scene.

I can confirm that the Kerm character is alive and well.

We get it. You blew him.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: CT III on January 23, 2015, 02:53:41 PM
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Someone better watch their ass.

Retired professional baseball player Ted Lilly has been charged with insurance fraud in San Luis Obispo County. (http://www.ksby.com/news/ksby-exclusive-former-professional-mlb-player-charged-with-insurance-fraud-in-slo-county/#.VMJ9KwxY4d4.twitter)

Does anyone remember where exactly the Ted Lilly Is an Axe Murderer meme began? Just curious. Feels like there was never a time I heard the name Ted Lilly without thinking of it.

I think Kerm established it shortly after Lilly joined the Cubs.

Earliest reference I could find http://hirejimessian.com/2007/04/04/post-game-notes-cubs-at-reds-april-4-2007/


Hmm. Even that quote almost seems like it was already established, but barring further evidence I will declare Kerm the Progenitor of the meme.

Now if only we could get some kind of evidence that Kerm was real, and not some kind of myth.

Sounds like someone needs to hit the red-hot DuPage improv scene.

I can confirm that the Kerm character is alive and well.

We get it. You blew him.

Why would I do that? He's not even a Cubs blogger.
Title: Re: Ted Lilly. A Cub.
Post by: Brownie on January 22, 2019, 05:34:21 PM
There are 425 Hall of Fame voters for whom you might want to request a wellness check. Ted Lilly didn't receive a vote, making it easy for him to figure out who snubbed him.