Chris Williams anyone? Rashard Mendenhall? Jeff Otah? Trade up and take Dorsey? Trade out altogether and take Rick Mirer again?
What sayeth?
Ken Dorsey? That'd be silly. Pull yer head outta yer butt. There's no need to trade up to take him anyways. Jeff Otah? Sounds like Jeff Utah to me. Never take a dude named after a Mormon state. Chris Williams? Good name, but he's black, not white. Don't take black dudes with white names that went to Vanderbilt. Mendenhall? He's good. The Bears need an offensive line or the pick ain't worth the booger it'd net. So who should they take? They should take a pass. They'd just screw up the pick anyways.
Chris Long is taken with the second pick.
[racist]I'm sure he'll go on to join the long list of white DE's who became outstanding pass rushers in the NFL.[/racist]
Quote from: CT II on April 26, 2008, 02:15:07 PM
Chris Long is taken with the second pick.
[racist]I'm sure he'll go on to join the long list of white DE's who became outstanding pass rushers in the NFL.[/racist]
Let's see there was...
(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nfl/2002/0803/photo/a_hampton_i.jpg)
and then there was... uh... Trace Armstrong. That's it. Geez.
Bryce Paup?
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 26, 2008, 02:50:42 PM
Bryce Paup?
Patrick Kearney says hi. Does anybody hear him?
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 26, 2008, 02:50:42 PM
Bryce Paup?
Patrick Kearney says hi. Does anybody hear him?
He has a strange way of saying it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Kearney)
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 26, 2008, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 26, 2008, 02:50:42 PM
Bryce Paup?
Patrick Kearney says hi. Does anybody hear him?
He has a strange way of saying it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Kearney)
Jared Allen, at least until he's locked up for DUIs.
They'll get a franchise QB. They're gonna trade it to Green Bay for the rights to Brett Favre.
It's Chris Williams. If he can get to the LT spot this season, Tait can move back to the right where he belongs. If it works out, the Bears get better on both sides of the line.
Please, be good.
Good pick. Mendenhall would have been fun to watch if the offensive line wasn't in shambles, but they filled a need. And the guy is definitely a left tackle, something that you couldn't be sure about with Otah or Albert.
Quote from: RV on April 26, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
Good pick. Mendenhall would have been fun to watch if the offensive line wasn't in shambles, but they filled a need. And the guy is definitely a left tackle, something that you couldn't be sure about with Otah or Albert.
The best thing about it is that they got a guy from the best college football conference on this continent.
Clady was gone, so we were left with three O-linemen worthy of the draft slot.
Otah and Albert would both be learning on the job. One's a RT and one's a Guard. Williams was a starting left tackle for a long time and is ready to go. Tait's been a pretty decent left tackle, but he's gonna be sick back on the right side.
Good stuff. Back-to-back years with awesome first round picks.
For the second round, any of Chilo Richal, Sam Baker, Brian Brohm, or Joe Flacco would be downright heavenly and make the draft an automatic win, no matter who the rest of the picks are.
Quote from: RV on April 26, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
Good pick. Mendenhall would have been fun to watch if the offensive line wasn't in shambles, but they filled a need. And the guy is definitely a left tackle, something that you couldn't be sure about with Otah or Albert.
I have a feeling Mendenhall will still be available in the second round.
Flacco just went 18th overall to Baltimore. That's the reach of the draft. They're either going to look very smart or very stupid in three years.
Probably very stupid, as they could have traded down ten spots and still gotten him...Or Brohm...Who would have probably been a much better choice. The whole thing smells like someone trying to act smarter than they are.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on April 26, 2008, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: RV on April 26, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
Good pick. Mendenhall would have been fun to watch if the offensive line wasn't in shambles, but they filled a need. And the guy is definitely a left tackle, something that you couldn't be sure about with Otah or Albert.
I have a feeling Mendenhall will still be available in the second round.
Nah...he seems like the perfect Jerry Jones pick w/one of these late 1st round picks.
Quote from: Rob_Goldman on April 26, 2008, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on April 26, 2008, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: RV on April 26, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
Good pick. Mendenhall would have been fun to watch if the offensive line wasn't in shambles, but they filled a need. And the guy is definitely a left tackle, something that you couldn't be sure about with Otah or Albert.
I have a feeling Mendenhall will still be available in the second round.
Nah...he seems like the perfect Jerry Jones pick w/one of these late 1st round picks.
So close. Felix Jones.
Atlanta trades up to pick Sam Baker. Someone's gotta block for Matt Ryan, after all. Good move. He was being ranked too low by everyone. I just wish he'd fallen to us so we could make him play Guard. Brohm will be gone by the time we pick, so Chilo Richal would be awesome.
Of course, we'll get a new linebacker or something instead.
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 26, 2008, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Rob_Goldman on April 26, 2008, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on April 26, 2008, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: RV on April 26, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
Good pick. Mendenhall would have been fun to watch if the offensive line wasn't in shambles, but they filled a need. And the guy is definitely a left tackle, something that you couldn't be sure about with Otah or Albert.
I have a feeling Mendenhall will still be available in the second round.
Nah...he seems like the perfect Jerry Jones pick w/one of these late 1st round picks.
So close. Felix Jones.
Was there ever really a doubt that Jones(Jerry) would take Jones(Felix)?
Pittsburgh drafts Mendenhall. Rashard won't get a chance to prove himself there, in my opinion. They have Parker AND Davenport if I remember correctly.
Jerry Angelo once again showing he has no capacity to take a chance by not jumping up there to make a trade for Mendenhall.
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
Pittsburgh drafts Mendenhall... Jerry Angelo once again showing he has no capacity to take a chance by not jumping up there to make a trade for Mendenhall.
I don't know college football from my left nut, but I'm going to go ahead and say that if BC was fer it, I was agin it.
I mean, Mendenhall?... Sounds Jewish.
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
Pittsburgh drafts Mendenhall. Rashard won't get a chance to prove himself there, in my opinion. They have Parker AND Davenport if I remember correctly.
Jerry Angelo once again showing he has no capacity to take a chance by not jumping up there to make a trade for Mendenhall.
We have no reason to trade up to take a one-year starter in a spread offense. He's too much of a risk to
really be worth a first round pick. That's why he pulled a Brady Quinn and sank like a rock.
Quote from: Thrillho on April 26, 2008, 04:50:27 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
Pittsburgh drafts Mendenhall... Jerry Angelo once again showing he has no capacity to take a chance by not jumping up there to make a trade for Mendenhall.
I don't know college football from my left nut, but I'm going to go ahead and say that if BC was fer it, I was agin it.
I mean, Mendenhall?... Sounds Jewish.
Plus, he can't even beat out Najeh Davenport. Ever. Never. What I can't figure out is, if Pittsburgh doesn't plan on giving this guy a chance to play, EVER, then why'd they take him in the first?
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 26, 2008, 04:53:43 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on April 26, 2008, 04:50:27 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
Pittsburgh drafts Mendenhall... Jerry Angelo once again showing he has no capacity to take a chance by not jumping up there to make a trade for Mendenhall.
I don't know college football from my left nut, but I'm going to go ahead and say that if BC was fer it, I was agin it.
I mean, Mendenhall?... Sounds Jewish.
Plus, he can't even beat out Najeh Davenport. Ever. Never. What I can't figure out is, if Pittsburgh doesn't plan on giving this guy a chance to play, EVER, then why'd they take him in the first?
A conspiracy to keep U of I down, naturally.
Quote from: I like Jubblies on April 26, 2008, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 26, 2008, 04:53:43 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on April 26, 2008, 04:50:27 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
Pittsburgh drafts Mendenhall... Jerry Angelo once again showing he has no capacity to take a chance by not jumping up there to make a trade for Mendenhall.
I don't know college football from my left nut, but I'm going to go ahead and say that if BC was fer it, I was agin it.
I mean, Mendenhall?... Sounds Jewish.
Plus, he can't even beat out Najeh Davenport. Ever. Never. What I can't figure out is, if Pittsburgh doesn't plan on giving this guy a chance to play, EVER, then why'd they take him in the first?
A conspiracy to keep U of I down, naturally.
Perpetrated by perpetrators, natch.
Glad to see reasonable Bears fans that like the Williams pick. I went to Vandy while Chris was there and he's a great guy who will work his ass off to get better, he went from 240 as a freshman to 315 now and he still has room to get stronger. Looking at all the tackles that have been chosen so far there is no way the Bears could have afforded to go with anything but an OL in the first round, regardless of people's love for Mendenhall. CW gave up two sacks in two years playing in the SEC, I'd say the Bears got a pretty good one
And yes, I have returned from the dead just to comment on a Bears draft pick
Quote from: I like Jubblies on April 26, 2008, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 26, 2008, 04:53:43 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on April 26, 2008, 04:50:27 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
Pittsburgh drafts Mendenhall... Jerry Angelo once again showing he has no capacity to take a chance by not jumping up there to make a trade for Mendenhall.
I don't know college football from my left nut, but I'm going to go ahead and say that if BC was fer it, I was agin it.
I mean, Mendenhall?... Sounds Jewish.
Plus, he can't even beat out Najeh Davenport. Ever. Never. What I can't figure out is, if Pittsburgh doesn't plan on giving this guy a chance to play, EVER, then why'd they take him in the first?
A conspiracy to keep U of I down, naturally.
Agreed, but the State of Illinois is doing a yeoman's job of that.
Quote from: PropJoe on April 26, 2008, 05:02:29 PM
And yes, I have returned from the dead just to comment on a Bears draft pick
Your nephew... Disappointing shite, that boy. He hasn't made shit dope since
Tical 2: Judgement Day either. That was, what 1998. Sheesh.
Couldn't agree more, there hasn't been a high quality post-apocalyptic rap album since
I actually liked the Williams pick, lord knows the Bears need to fix the offensive line.
The problem is that Benson just flat out sucks, and once it got into the 20's I think the Bears would have been well-served to jump up there and grab Mendenhall.
Rice strikes me as a meh running back, and Charles looks to have potential but he's from Texas, and the last two highly-considered running backs out of Texas haven't worked out well in the NFL.
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 05:28:17 PM
I actually liked the Williams pick, lord knows the Bears need to fix the offensive line.
The problem is that Benson just flat out sucks, and once it got into the 20's I think the Bears would have been well-served to jump up there and grab Mendenhall.
Rice strikes me as a meh running back, and Charles looks to have potential but he's from Texas, and the last two highly-considered running backs out of Texas haven't worked out well in the NFL.
How'd the last two well-considered RB's from Illinois work out?
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 05:37:47 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 05:28:17 PM
I actually liked the Williams pick, lord knows the Bears need to fix the offensive line.
The problem is that Benson just flat out sucks, and once it got into the 20's I think the Bears would have been well-served to jump up there and grab Mendenhall.
Rice strikes me as a meh running back, and Charles looks to have potential but he's from Texas, and the last two highly-considered running backs out of Texas haven't worked out well in the NFL.
How'd the last two well-considered RB's from Illinois work out?
Red Grange was pretty good.
Quote from: butthead on April 26, 2008, 05:39:05 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 05:37:47 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 05:28:17 PM
I actually liked the Williams pick, lord knows the Bears need to fix the offensive line.
The problem is that Benson just flat out sucks, and once it got into the 20's I think the Bears would have been well-served to jump up there and grab Mendenhall.
Rice strikes me as a meh running back, and Charles looks to have potential but he's from Texas, and the last two highly-considered running backs out of Texas haven't worked out well in the NFL.
How'd the last two well-considered RB's from Illinois work out?
Red Grange was pretty good.
Robert Holcombe had a decent career, although he did move to fullback later on in his career.
Pierre Thomas wasn't highly considered, but the Saints like him...
Miami and KC didn't take QBs. Barring someone trading up...We may have the chance to draft Brian Brohm. It may be unpopular here at the only site you'll ever need, but it'd be damned good for the offense (provided the Bears don't just ruin him).
Baltimore looks really dumb for taking Flacco at 18 so far.
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: butthead on April 26, 2008, 05:39:05 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 05:37:47 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 05:28:17 PM
I actually liked the Williams pick, lord knows the Bears need to fix the offensive line.
The problem is that Benson just flat out sucks, and once it got into the 20's I think the Bears would have been well-served to jump up there and grab Mendenhall.
Rice strikes me as a meh running back, and Charles looks to have potential but he's from Texas, and the last two highly-considered running backs out of Texas haven't worked out well in the NFL.
How'd the last two well-considered RB's from Illinois work out?
Red Grange was pretty good.
Robert Holcombe had a decent career, although he did move to fullback later on in his career.
Pierre Thomas wasn't highly considered, but the Saints like him...
Which one is Mendenhall?
Quote from: I like Jubblies on April 26, 2008, 05:55:04 PM
Miami and KC didn't take QBs. Barring someone trading up...We may have the chance to draft Brian Brohm. It may be unpopular here at the only site you'll ever need, but it'd be damned good for the offense (provided the Bears don't just ruin him).
Brohm's a taller Grossman, for goodness sakes... He's immobile, prone to bouts of inaccuracy even when not facing pressure, looks bad when he is pressured, and any throw outside the numbers is a possible pick-six due to that lack of accuracy and not being smart about where he's throwing it.
Get this team a damn running back!!!
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 06:24:04 PM
Brohm's a taller Grossman, for goodness sakes... He's immobile, prone to bouts of inaccuracy
Get this team a damn running back!!!
In keeping with my extensive notes for your cherubic ass, You could have quit right here and been ahead on points. But you just couldn't help yourself. Could you? You're a regular John Kerry. And why do you insist on ripping people for being afraid to take chances on multi-million dollar deals involving ballplayers when you're afraid to type profanity on a fringe message board? Jesus H. Christ.
Angelo fucking sucks.
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: I like Jubblies on April 26, 2008, 05:55:04 PM
Miami and KC didn't take QBs. Barring someone trading up...We may have the chance to draft Brian Brohm. It may be unpopular here at the only site you'll ever need, but it'd be damned good for the offense (provided the Bears don't just ruin him).
Brohm's a taller Grossman, for goodness sakes... He's immobile, prone to bouts of inaccuracy even when not facing pressure, looks bad when he is pressured, and any throw outside the numbers is a possible pick-six due to that lack of accuracy and not being smart about where he's throwing it.
Get this team a damn running back!!!
You got your wish. Now, I look forward to you bashing this pick as well.
I like the potential of the pick. He isn't going to help immediately like Mendenhall would've, but Forte has a lot of natural ability and talent.
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 06:35:18 PM
I like the potential of the pick. He isn't going to help immediately like Mendenhall would've, but Forte has a lot of natural ability and talent.
Watch a lot of Tulane games, do you?
The Bears are gonna take QB at some point. That QB will either be the second coming or Rex Orton 2.0. As such, they're gonna hold off and cover all the bases by drafting Brady Leaf from Oregon.
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 06:35:18 PM
I like the potential of the pick. He isn't going to help immediately like Mendenhall would've, but Forte has a lot of natural ability and talent.
Mendenhall wasn't worth drafting or trading up for. Forte screams workout wonder, even though he may work out because he'll have 3/5ths of a functional offensive line instead of the crap the Bears put out there last year. His Tulane team may have sucked, but so did their competition.
Quote from: joesoxfan on April 26, 2008, 06:36:22 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 06:35:18 PM
I like the potential of the pick. He isn't going to help immediately like Mendenhall would've, but Forte has a lot of natural ability and talent.
Watch a lot of Tulane games, do you?
I saw two of them if I remember correctly. It isn't like I have seen the guy a ton, but what I did see I liked generally and some draft experts liked him in this general range of picks as well.
Why would you watch even one Tulane game? What possible reason?
Also, to your earlier post, the draftniks on Rivals in their little summary said he might start immediately. If your starting running back sucks and you spend a mid second round pick on a running back, he better start.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: BC on April 26, 2008, 06:24:04 PM
Brohm's a taller Grossman, for goodness sakes... He's immobile, prone to bouts of inaccuracy
Get this team a damn running back!!!
In keeping with my extensive notes for your cherubic ass, You could have quit right here and been ahead on points. But you just couldn't help yourself. Could you? You're a regular John Kerry. And why do you insist on ripping people for being afraid to take chances on multi-million dollar deals involving ballplayers when you're afraid to type profanity on a fringe message board? Jesus H. Christ.
Or at least mince your oaths with proper grammar for gosh-darn goodness' sake!
The Pack just took a flier Brohm at No. 56. Hope he's a shitty as BC seems to think he is.
Packers get Brohm. So that's not good.
Quote from: joesoxfan on April 26, 2008, 07:32:08 PM
Packers get Brohm. So that's not good.
Who asked you, cocklunch?
The Packers are having a pretty damn good draft so far. The receiver they took is pretty good and now Brohm, who would have been a 1st rounder had he came out last year, with their late 2nd round pick.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 07:31:28 PM
The Pack just took a flier Brohm at No. 56. Hope he's a shitty as BC seems to think he is.
He's not. Just more typical BC bullshit. No one says that Brohm is a Grossman. Now GB gets to have a competition for a couple of years before deciding whether to keep Rodgers or Brohm.
So...Bad news is that Green Bay is going to have a franchise QB no matter what.
I don't hate the Forte pick. It's really vanilla. He's basically a slightly faster Cedric Benson with a better attitude who played against lower competition, but it just proves what a lot of people said last year: the Garret Wolfe pick was wasted. Angelo flushed it right down the toilet.
Quote from: I like Jubblies on April 26, 2008, 07:38:56 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 07:31:28 PM
The Pack just took a flier Brohm at No. 56. Hope he's a shitty as BC seems to think he is.
He's not. Just more typical BC bullshit. No one says that Brohm is a Grossman. Now GB gets to have a competition for a couple of years before deciding whether to keep Rodgers or Brohm.
So...Bad news is that Green Bay is going to have a franchise QB no matter what.
I don't hate the Forte pick. It's really vanilla. He's basically a slightly faster Cedric Benson with a better attitude who played against lower competition, but it just proves what a lot of people said last year: the Garret Wolfe pick was wasted. Angelo flushed it right down the toilet.
I really thought Wolfe would make a good 3rd down pass catching back. But since Forte is an excellent pass blocker and catches the ball well, too... I agree.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: joesoxfan on April 26, 2008, 07:32:08 PM
Packers get Brohm. So that's not good.
Who asked you, cocklunch?
Sorry the kids were mean to you in high school, you wigger faggot.
Quote from: joesoxfan on April 26, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: joesoxfan on April 26, 2008, 07:32:08 PM
Packers get Brohm. So that's not good.
Who asked you, cocklunch?
Sorry the kids were mean to you in high school, you wigger faggot.
I think pumpkin is the best of all the pies.
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Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: joesoxfan on April 26, 2008, 07:32:08 PM
Packers get Brohm. So that's not good.
Who asked you, cocklunch?
Sorry the kids were mean to you in high school, you wigger faggot.
So, you
are a cocklunch. Congrats.
Quote from: powen01 on April 26, 2008, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: joesoxfan on April 26, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: joesoxfan on April 26, 2008, 07:32:08 PM
Packers get Brohm. So that's not good.
Who asked you, cocklunch?
Sorry the kids were mean to you in high school, you wigger faggot.
So, you are a cocklunch. Congrats.
Does carry around a sack lunch? Because then he might be Al.
Do you guys hear crickets?
What the Pack now have are two QBs who are apparently made out of play-doh. Rogers has been hurt in every season--which is a miracle considering his limited playing time--and Brohm suffered a serious injury in his last three college seasons.
That's why Brohm lasted as long as he did, not because he's not good.
Oh, and Chad Henne? He sucks.
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 12:04:57 AM
What the Pack now have are two QBs who are apparently made out of play-doh. Rogers has been hurt in every season--which is a miracle considering his limited playing time--and Brohm suffered a serious injury in his last three college seasons.
That's why Brohm lasted as long as he did, not because he's not good.
Oh, and Chad Henne? He sucks.
That might be true, but I would take them both over the current group the bears will trot out next year.
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 12:24:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 12:04:57 AM
What the Pack now have are two QBs who are apparently made out of play-doh. Rogers has been hurt in every season--which is a miracle considering his limited playing time--and Brohm suffered a serious injury in his last three college seasons.
That's why Brohm lasted as long as he did, not because he's not good.
Oh, and Chad Henne? He sucks.
That might be true, but I would take them both over the current group the bears will trot out next year.
JD Booty, anyone? How about Andre Woodson? I think both will be available at 90. I'm not sure the difference between Henne and these two is all that great.
Quote from: Oleg on April 27, 2008, 09:48:57 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 12:24:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 12:04:57 AM
What the Pack now have are two QBs who are apparently made out of play-doh. Rogers has been hurt in every season--which is a miracle considering his limited playing time--and Brohm suffered a serious injury in his last three college seasons.
That's why Brohm lasted as long as he did, not because he's not good.
Oh, and Chad Henne? He sucks.
That might be true, but I would take them both over the current group the bears will trot out next year.
JD Booty, anyone? How about Andre Woodson? I think both will be available at 90. I'm not sure the difference between Henne and these two is all that great.
I hear the Bears are targeting Colt Brennan.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 26, 2008, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: CT II on April 26, 2008, 02:15:07 PM
Chris Long is taken with the second pick.
[racist]I'm sure he'll go on to join the long list of white DE's who became outstanding pass rushers in the NFL.[/racist]
Let's see there was...
(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nfl/2002/0803/photo/a_hampton_i.jpg)
and then there was... uh... Trace Armstrong. That's it. Geez.
This guy was pretty good.
(http://www.markgastineau.com/albums/renderings/gastineau_render1.jpg)
And who could forget....
(http://assets.chicagobears.com/images/history/hof-atkins.jpg)
Quote from: Oleg on April 27, 2008, 09:48:57 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 12:24:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 12:04:57 AM
What the Pack now have are two QBs who are apparently made out of play-doh. Rogers has been hurt in every season--which is a miracle considering his limited playing time--and Brohm suffered a serious injury in his last three college seasons.
That's why Brohm lasted as long as he did, not because he's not good.
Oh, and Chad Henne? He sucks.
That might be true, but I would take them both over the current group the bears will trot out next year.
JD Booty, anyone? How about Andre Woodson? I think both will be available at 90. I'm not sure the difference between Henne and these two is all that great.
I like Woodson. He had some huge game against the Gators. Although so did the rest of the QBs that played against them this year did as well. But, he won in the SEC with the team he had around him was amazing. I still like the combo of Rodgers, Brohm the packers have over the Orton/Grossman/Woodson or JD Booty.
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
Are you a dumb wigger? The draft is clearly about making BC happy.
Oh wait, that's impossible.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
<Mel Kiper> I think somebody just saw the "best of Mel" piece on ESPN and stole the line I said about the Jets. </Mel Kiper>
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
The problem is there are needs at safety and defensive tackle and quarterback and OL and WR and...well there are a lot of needs.
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 10:17:33 AM
I like Woodson. He had some huge game against the Gators. Although so did the rest of the QBs that played against them this year did as well. But, he won in the SEC with the team he had around him was amazing. I still like the combo of Rodgers, Brohm the packers have over the Orton/Grossman/Woodson or JD Booty.
I don't think Woodson will make it as a pro. He's got a long release and he doesn't throw hard enough to make up for it. I like Woodson and he was a pretty good college QB, but the Bears already have Chris Leak. Woodson isn't any better than Leak.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Still grinding that axe, huh?
It's almost like Angelo just doesn't know how to draft, period. I mean, name a decent defensive player he's selected after the first round of any draft, ever. After you get past the first five or so pro-bowlers you're down to the Alex Browns and P'Nut Tillmans of the world. And then it gets pretty grim.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.
Christ. You're bitching about Angelo not filling a need with the d-tackle pick (which Apex picked apart for you) and you would have preferred that he took a CORNER?
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.
Please be quiet now.
BC, safety is a need. Corner is not. You really hate P'nut that much? Really? You're out of your goddamn mind.
And until Dusty Dvoracek quits making Mike Brown look reliable, D tackle is a priority.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.
Ainge? Really? You must have not seen him play at Tennessee.
Quote from: butthead on April 27, 2008, 10:58:29 AM
BC, safety is a need. Corner is not. You really hate P'nut that much? Really? You're out of your goddamn mind.
And until Dusty Dvoracek quits making Mike Brown look reliable, D tackle is a priority.
Intrepid Reader: Anthony AdamsWhat? What?
The secondary was a big problem for last year's team, it should have been obvious through just watching the games. Unfortunately, management seems to want to avoid recognizing the problem just as much as you guys do. Either a safety or a corner, I don't care. I would prefer a corner to eventually help push Tillman to safety, which I think is where he should be, but a safety would be fine as well. Just do something there, and soon.
Personally, I would have most liked a Justin King pick there. But a QB, OL or another defensive secondary player would've been fine too. I just don't see the point of drafting a DT in the third round, I really don't see the point of it.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:04:49 AM
The secondary was a big problem for last year's team, it should have been obvious through just watching the games. Unfortunately, management seems to want to avoid recognizing the problem just as much as you guys do. Either a safety or a corner, I don't care. I would prefer a corner to eventually help push Tillman to safety, which I think is where he should be, but a safety would be fine as well. Just do something there, and soon.
Personally, I would have most liked a Justin King pick there. But a QB, OL or another defensive secondary player would've been fine too. I just don't see the point of drafting a DT in the third round, I really don't see the point of it.
Shhhh...
This is a weak draft for safeties.
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.
Ainge? Really? You must have not seen him play at Tennessee.
I watched Ainge at Tennessee. I see him as fairly raw, he has potential that would have to be developed. He has a really bad habit of having his team in position to possibly win the game in the fourth quarter and then throwing a soul-crushing interception. Still, worth a third-rounder if you are needing a QB, in my opinion.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:04:49 AM
The secondary was a big problem for last year's team, it should have been obvious through just watching the games.
Part of the reason it was a problem was one of the guys watching the games was Nate Vasher.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:07:05 AM
I watched Ainge at Tennessee. I see him as fairly raw, he has potential that would have to be developed. He has a really bad habit of having his team in position to possibly win the game in the fourth quarter and then throwing a soul-crushing interception. Still, worth a third-rounder if you are needing a QB, in my opinion.
Did you really just write this?
For those of you interested in the actual picks, here's some info from the Trib blog:
QuoteGabriel said the Bears had Bennett rated as the highest target on their board, even higher than some of the receivers picked in the second round Saturday. The Bears view Bennett as capable of coming in and at least competing for playing time.
"I like Earl a lot," said offensive coordinator Ron Turner. "We targeted him early, had a real high grade on him. Watch a lot of tape on him, obviously. He's got great quickness, a really good route runner, very precise route runner, good run after the catch."
Bennett should have the opportunity to contribute immediately. The Bears lost Bernard Berrian to the Vikings and cut Muhsin Muhammad. Although Marty Booker and Brandon Lloyd were signed in the off-season, the Bears still don't have a solid No. 1 receiver.
"He'll get an opportunity, obviously, to come in and compete," Turner said. "He's a very intelligent young man, so he shouldn't have any trouble picking things up. Very competitive, so I know he'll enjoy coming in and competing. We'll just give him a chance to come in and compete with the guys we have currently on our roster."
Turner said Bennett has been compared to Hines Ward, the great Pittsburgh wide receiver. Bennett remained humble in accepting such praise.
QuoteThe first three picks, the Bears could cite character and intangibles as big factors in their decisions. But Arkansas defensive tackle Marcus Harrison? Harrison was arrested Aug. 24 and accused of having an ecstasy pill and marijuana in his vehicle when he was stopped by Fayetteville police. He was charged with one count of possession of a controlled substance. Maybe it was a bad coincidence or a blip on Harrison's personal radar. But it raises questions about his maturity as a professional football player.
Beyond character concerns, a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee during spring practice in 2007 healed but it's not something that instills much confidence about his durability.
You can't like all the picks. This is the first head-scratcher the Bears have made.
I was fine with the first three picks. They all are good talents that fill positions of need. Harrison just doesn't make sense. In terms of talent, Harrison is not a reach. It just is a matter of the pick not fitting the Bears' needs.
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:14:29 AM
I was fine with the first three picks. They all are good talents that fill positions of need. Harrison just doesn't make sense. In terms of talent, Harrison is not a reach. It just is a matter of the pick not fitting the Bears' needs.
How can you have three DTs on the roster with only two having significant experience as a pro and all three coming off serious injuries and not rate that position as a "need" or a "priority" or a "problem area?"
You just don't make a lick of sense.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
OH NOEZ!!!! More draft picks!!11!!
Hold me.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In the late rounds, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy. But you keep bashing Angelo.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???
Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.
Ainge? Really? You must have not seen him play at Tennessee.
I watched Ainge at Tennessee. I see him as fairly raw, he has potential that would have to be developed. He has a really bad habit of having his team in position to possibly win the game in the fourth quarter and then throwing a soul-crushing interception. Still, worth a third-rounder if you are needing a QB, in my opinion.
Yeah, this is just the franchise and coaching staff that can do it.
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy. But you keep bashing Angelo.
Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy. But you keep bashing Angelo.
Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...
I like that you're defending Angelo from...you.
Another trade down... I hope the player they are wanting is still there at 120 because they have had chances at #110 and #115...
I cannot believe anyone is legitimately suggesting drafting Ainge over Woodson. I don't care what kind of hitch Woodson had, he was 10X better in college than Ainge was with much worse talent around him, playing in the same division in the SEC. Ainge is a horrible, horrible quarterback. Also, I think people are going to be very happy with Bennett, and considering how horrible our WR corps is it wouldn't surprise me if EB was starting by mid-season or so. He catches everything, is good after the catch, and I think with Chris Williams coming with him to the Bears he should have an easier adjustment to the NFL.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy. But you keep bashing Angelo.
Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...
Hence the glut of late-round picks. If Angelo does one thing right, it's find defensive diamonds in the rough in the late rounds. I say the more chances he has to get this right the better.
1. Tillman
2. Briggs
3. A. Brown
4. Vasher
5. Ayenbadejo
6. Azumah
7. Dvoracek
8. McBride
What do these guys have in common? Besides being pretty good, I mean.
Quote from: PropJoe on April 27, 2008, 11:41:31 AM
I cannot believe anyone is legitimately suggesting drafting Ainge over Woodson.
That's a little strong considering the one doing the suggesting. You're fairly new but by all means, feel free to suspend belief for a while.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy. But you keep bashing Angelo.
Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...
Hence the glut of late-round picks. If Angelo does one thing right, it's find defensive diamonds in the rough in the late rounds. I say the more chances he has to get this right the better.
1. Tillman
2. Briggs
3. A. Brown
4. Vasher
5. Ayenbadejo
6. Azumah
7. Dvoracek
8. McBride
What do these guys have in common? Besides being pretty good, I mean.
Uh, Pex? I'm pretty sure that Ayenbadejo was signed as a free agent, and Azumah was drafted prior to Angelo taking over. Other than that, good list.
Is McBride really a "defensive diamond"???
Bears pick Steltz, a safety, from LSU with pick #120... QB and offensive line now with your next picks Jerry, come on...
Quote from: CT II on April 27, 2008, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy. But you keep bashing Angelo.
Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...
Hence the glut of late-round picks. If Angelo does one thing right, it's find defensive diamonds in the rough in the late rounds. I say the more chances he has to get this right the better.
1. Tillman
2. Briggs
3. A. Brown
4. Vasher
5. Ayenbadejo
6. Azumah
7. Dvoracek
8. McBride
What do these guys have in common? Besides being pretty good, I mean.
Uh, Pex? I'm pretty sure that Ayenbadejo was signed as a free agent, and Azumah was drafted prior to Angelo taking over. Other than that, good list.
You got some sort of playbook you're reading from? Is this it?
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Oh i have been reading long enough to realize that BC has some...interesting...ideas on how the Bears should be run, but he isn't the only one I've seen throw out Ainge before Woodson. Personally, I'd like to see the Bears use one of their 7th rounders on Dennis Dixon. As long as they have so many they might as well take a chance on a guy who might have been a 1st/2nd round pick if he stayed healthy
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 11:55:45 AM
Quote from: CT II on April 27, 2008, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy. But you keep bashing Angelo.
Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...
Hence the glut of late-round picks. If Angelo does one thing right, it's find defensive diamonds in the rough in the late rounds. I say the more chances he has to get this right the better.
1. Tillman
2. Briggs
3. A. Brown
4. Vasher
5. Ayenbadejo
6. Azumah
7. Dvoracek
8. McBride
What do these guys have in common? Besides being pretty good, I mean.
Uh, Pex? I'm pretty sure that Ayenbadejo was signed as a free agent, and Azumah was drafted prior to Angelo taking over. Other than that, good list.
You got some sort of playbook you're reading from? Is this it?
Just tryin' to help, man. It is a good list though. If BC won't accept McBride, then perhaps Ian Scott and Mark Anderson would suffice?
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:07:05 AM
I watched Ainge at Tennessee. I see him as fairly raw, he has potential that would have to be developed. He has a really bad habit of having his team in position to possibly win the game in the fourth quarter and then throwing a soul-crushing interception. Still, worth a third-rounder if you are needing a QB, in my opinion.
Your position is just wrong. Ainge is a 5th rounder at best, and won't start 10 games in his career. He was a 4 year starter (he won the job his freshman year and missed time due to injury his sophomore year) at a national power with lots of talent around him. Ainge also had good coaching with David Cutcliffe as his OC. The fact that you see him as raw raises a huge red flag because he's had four years in a great situation for a QB to develop. His potential should have been fulfilled. Basically, he's either reached his potential and he just sucks, or he's too stupid/lazy to work to fulfill his potential. Neither of those scenarios translate to NFL caliber QB.
Quote from: PropJoe on April 27, 2008, 11:57:23 AM
Oh i have been reading long enough to realize that BC has some...interesting...ideas on how the Bears should be run, but he isn't the only one I've seen throw out Ainge before Woodson. Personally, I'd like to see the Bears use one of their 7th rounders on Dennis Dixon. As long as they have so many they might as well take a chance on a guy who might have been a 1st/2nd round pick if he stayed healthy
I actually wouldn't have a problem with using as high as a fifth-rounder on Dixon. I think using a fourth on either Ainge or Booty, and a fifth on either Woodson or Dixon, would be all right.
Need at least one more offensive lineman drafted however...
Quote from: MDZ on April 27, 2008, 12:04:33 PM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:07:05 AM
I watched Ainge at Tennessee. I see him as fairly raw, he has potential that would have to be developed. He has a really bad habit of having his team in position to possibly win the game in the fourth quarter and then throwing a soul-crushing interception. Still, worth a third-rounder if you are needing a QB, in my opinion.
Your position is just wrong. Ainge is a 5th rounder at best, and won't start 10 games in his career. He was a 4 year starter (he won the job his freshman year and missed time due to injury his sophomore year) at a national power with lots of talent around him. Ainge also had good coaching with David Cutcliffe as his OC. The fact that you see him as raw raises a huge red flag because he's had four years in a great situation for a QB to develop. His potential should have been fulfilled. Basically, he's either reached his potential and he just sucks, or he's too stupid/lazy to work to fulfill his potential. Neither of those scenarios translate to NFL caliber QB.
Tennessee has been beyond perplexing under Fulmer. They had Manning and couldn't win a title, then he leaves and they win a national title. After that, it seems they always have been one of the top two or three talented teams in the SEC but haven't done much with it. I understand your point, I think Ainge has some upside though as long as he can avoid throwing picks at the worst possible times.
While we wait for Angelo to get BC's dander up again, I thought I'd make another list for the hell of it.
My favorite football players of all time:
Tier 1
1. Walter Payton
Tier 2
1. Brian Urlacher
2. Mike Singletary
3. Dan Hampton
4. Richard Dent
5. William Perry
Tier 3
1. P'Nut Tillman
2. Neal Anderson
3. Mike Brown
4. Rod Woodson Jim McMahon
5. Steve McMichael
Yay?
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 12:12:10 PM
While we wait for Angelo to get BC's dander up again, I thought I'd make another list for the hell of it.
My favorite football players of all time:
Tier 1
1. Walter Payton
Tier 2
1. Brian Urlacher
2. Mike Singletary
3. Dan Hampton
4. Richard Dent
5. William Perry
Tier 3
1. P'Nut Tillman
2. Neal Anderson
3. Mike Brown
4. Rod Woodson
5. Steve McMichael
Yay?
Hester has to get Special Mention or something, doesn't he?
Anyway...
Tier 666
1. Adam Archuleta
2. Cedric Benson
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 12:14:41 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 12:12:10 PM
While we wait for Angelo to get BC's dander up again, I thought I'd make another list for the hell of it.
My favorite football players of all time:
Tier 1
1. Walter Payton
Tier 2
1. Brian Urlacher
2. Mike Singletary
3. Dan Hampton
4. Richard Dent
5. William Perry
Tier 3
1. P'Nut Tillman
2. Neal Anderson
3. Mike Brown
4. Rod Woodson
5. Steve McMichael
Yay?
Hester has to get Special Mention or something, doesn't he?
Anyway...
Tier 666
1. Adam Archuleta
2. Cedric Benson
It's hard for me to put Hester in there. He's too young. I feel weird about that for some reason. Brown, Tillman and Urlacher are about my age so that's about it for me. Some quarterback would have to be all-pro to reach Tier 3 splooge level or better at this point. Hester and Alex Brown and Jim Miller and Moose are all chilling with Butthead and Hilgenburg and Covert in that fourth-seventh tier that would defeat the purpose of even having favorites.
Add Brian Griese, John Thierry, Jeremy Lincoln, Rashaan Salaam, Cade McNown, Curtis Enis and etc... that 666 list.
I like to make lists.
My favorite football players of all time:
Tier 1
1. Walter Payton
Tier 2
1. Richard Dent
2. Otis Wilson
3. Steve McMichael
4. Brian Urlacher
5. Matt Suey
Tier 3
1. Neal Anderson
2. Wilbur Marshall
3. Dan Hampton
4. Mike Brown
5. Devin Hester
Add to the 666 List:
Vestee Jackson
Roosevelt Williams
Quote from: CT II on April 27, 2008, 12:37:08 PM
I like to make lists.
My favorite football players of all time:
Tier 1
1. Walter Payton
Tier 2
1. Richard Dent
2. Otis Wilson
3. Steve McMichael
4. Brian Urlacher
5. Matt Suey
Tier 3
1. Neal Anderson
2. Wilbur Marshall
3. Dan Hampton
4. Mike Brown
5. Devin Hester
Add to the 666 List:
Vestee Jackson
Roosevelt Williams
R.W. McQuarters
666'd.
There goes Booty to the Vikings... The Packers traded the pick to them, which I found strange.
Quote from: CT II on April 27, 2008, 12:37:08 PM
I like to make lists.
My favorite football players of all time:
Tier 1
1. Walter Payton
Tier 2
1. Richard Dent
2. Otis Wilson
3. Steve McMichael
4. Brian Urlacher
5. Matt Suey
Tier 3
1. Neal Anderson
2. Wilbur Marshall
3. Dan Hampton
4. Mike Brown
5. Devin Hester
Add to the 666 List:
Vestee Jackson
Roosevelt Williams
And what, no Singletary? You reading out of some Chuck Gitles playbook now?
Apex, Mike Alstott doesn't make your list? Or what about Rosevelt Colvin? I know he left the Bears in a money grab, but that Alamo Bowl game against K-State gets him at least an honorable mention in my book.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 12:45:49 PM
Quote from: CT II on April 27, 2008, 12:37:08 PM
I like to make lists.
My favorite football players of all time:
Tier 1
1. Walter Payton
Tier 2
1. Richard Dent
2. Otis Wilson
3. Steve McMichael
4. Brian Urlacher
5. Matt Suey
Tier 3
1. Neal Anderson
2. Wilbur Marshall
3. Dan Hampton
4. Mike Brown
5. Devin Hester
And what, no Singletary? You reading out of some Chuck Gitles playbook now?
The Chuck Gitles playbook that says that Singletary is/was better than Urlacher? Nope.
The Bears pick a corner, Zack Bowman, from Nebraska in the fifth round... I liked him as possibly a seventh-round sort of guy, although some draft guys had him going in the fifth or sixth rounds.
Quote from: CT II on April 27, 2008, 12:55:51 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 12:45:49 PM
Quote from: CT II on April 27, 2008, 12:37:08 PM
I like to make lists.
My favorite football players of all time:
Tier 1
1. Walter Payton
Tier 2
1. Richard Dent
2. Otis Wilson
3. Steve McMichael
4. Brian Urlacher
5. Matt Suey
Tier 3
1. Neal Anderson
2. Wilbur Marshall
3. Dan Hampton
4. Mike Brown
5. Devin Hester
And what, no Singletary? You reading out of some Chuck Gitles playbook now?
The Chuck Gitles playbook that says that Singletary is/was better than Urlacher? Nope.
I'm one of those dopes who thinks that the 85 Bears' Defense wouldn't have been nearly as scary without Samurai Mike shifting people around and constantly screwing with the quarterback's head. There were a lot of valuable players on that team, but in my mind Payton and Singletary were its most indispensable players. So for Mike, I shall splooge for infinity and beyond.
Quote from: MDZ on April 27, 2008, 12:53:07 PM
Apex, Mike Alstott doesn't make your list? Or what about Rosevelt Colvin? I know he left the Bears in a money grab, but that Alamo Bowl game against K-State gets him at least an honorable mention in my book.
Who do they bump off that list of mine? Again, we're talking about tier 4-10. I'm not Al Yellon here. One Purdue guy, Rod Woodson shares a spot with the eternally injured Punky QB because I met Woodson in person at a track meet when he was a senior. He signed an autograph for me and proceeded to blow a bunch of brothers out of the gym in the 100 meters without breaking a sweat. My sister threw shot for Purdue at the time, which was why I was able to roam around on the field at an indoor Purdue track meet. Steakballs.
Alstott played against the Bears in their division when they were teh suc. He lost some cool points there.
A corner? I don't get it. We need guards and receivers. Corner is a strong point.
Butthead, something about taking the best players available no matter the position, especially if they figure to help on special teams makes sense to me right now. Angelo seems to know his shit when it comes DBs.
Dixon off the board, and now a tight end??? Does this mean Olsen is going to be split out a lot?
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 01:48:19 PM
Dixon off the board, and now a tight end??? Does this mean Olsen is going to be split out a lot?
Uh I don't know. Maybe they'll convert Dez to a guard. Or they don't think Dez has much tread left on the tires and they're grooming his replacement. Still, a team needs three TE's.
Apparently their plan is to be horrible this year and then draft Tebow? I have no idea why we haven't picked another O-lineman and a QB yet, there was no need at all to take an injury risk like Bowman and a character risk like Davis at two positions where we actually have good players.
Quote from: PropJoe on April 27, 2008, 11:41:31 AM
I cannot believe anyone is legitimately suggesting drafting Ainge over Woodson. I don't care what kind of hitch Woodson had, he was 10X better in college than Ainge was with much worse talent around him, playing in the same division in the SEC. Ainge is a horrible, horrible quarterback. Also, I think people are going to be very happy with Bennett, and considering how horrible our WR corps is it wouldn't surprise me if EB was starting by mid-season or so. He catches everything, is good after the catch, and I think with Chris Williams coming with him to the Bears he should have an easier adjustment to the NFL.
Earl Bennett's the stuff. He'll be good. Ainge and Woodson should both be ignored.
Quote from: PropJoe on April 27, 2008, 02:07:47 PM
Apparently their plan is to be horrible this year and then draft Tebow? I have no idea why we haven't picked another O-lineman and a QB yet, there was no need at all to take an injury risk like Bowman and a character risk like Davis at two positions where we actually have good players.
Splooge.
I wanted the Bears to draft Dixon, even though he'll likely be IR'd to give him a full year to come back from his ACL surgery, and then I remembered that this was the Bears we were talking about. They'd have about as much use for a 6'3 QB who can move around in the pocket as they would for a left fielder or a sous chef.
I concur on Ainge and Woodson. Blecch. Brohm was the only QB they had a chance to pass on who interested me, and if only so I could write "tissue issue" for a couple of years before he died on the field.
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 02:45:59 PM
I concur on Ainge and Woodson. Blecch. Brohm was the only QB they had a chance to pass on who interested me, and if only so I could write "tissue issue" for a couple of years before he died on the field.
The Giants just picked Woodson. That gives them two guys from Kentucky that play quarterback and weigh about 850 pounds combined, correct?
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 02:45:59 PM
I concur on Ainge and Woodson. Blecch. Brohm was the only QB they had a chance to pass on who interested me, and if only so I could write "tissue issue" for a couple of years before he died on the field.
The Giants just picked Woodson. That gives them two guys from Kentucky that play quarterback and weigh about 850 pounds combined, correct?
Intrepid Reader: Fork-u-domeIncidentally that's also the combined weight of the Super Bowl hardware they've accumulated since your Beloved last paraded down Mich. Ave.
Well, the only two guys left at QB that the Bears should even consider drafting are Matt Flynn from LSU and Keller from Nebraska.
I hope the guy from Army they've been featuring gets drafted by some team...
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 02:45:59 PM
I concur on Ainge and Woodson. Blecch. Brohm was the only QB they had a chance to pass on who interested me, and if only so I could write "tissue issue" for a couple of years before he died on the field.
The Giants just picked Woodson. That gives them two guys from Kentucky that play quarterback and weigh about 850 pounds combined, correct?
Woodson's not fat.
A defensive end, Ervin Baldwin, from Michigan State taken with pick 208...
Good job Jerry! The Bears HAVE defensive ends!
The Packers pick Flynn with the 209th pick.
I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or punch someone in the face with how this draft has gone today for the Bears. Bennett, Steltz and Bowman made sense but Harrison and the two Michigan State guys haven't... No offensive lineman/linemen and no quarterback?
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 03:55:37 PM
A defensive end, Ervin Baldwin, from Michigan State taken with pick 208...
Good job Jerry! The Bears HAVE defensive ends!
The Packers pick Flynn with the 209th pick.
I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or punch someone in the face with how this draft has gone today for the Bears. Bennett, Steltz and Bowman made sense but Harrison and the two Michigan State guys haven't... No offensive lineman/linemen and no quarterback?
I don't know if you've heard, but the Bears drafted some guy named Williams. I hear he plays left tackle. Anyone know if this is true?
Quote from: Ogden on April 27, 2008, 04:07:35 PM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 03:55:37 PM
A defensive end, Ervin Baldwin, from Michigan State taken with pick 208...
Good job Jerry! The Bears HAVE defensive ends!
The Packers pick Flynn with the 209th pick.
I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or punch someone in the face with how this draft has gone today for the Bears. Bennett, Steltz and Bowman made sense but Harrison and the two Michigan State guys haven't... No offensive lineman/linemen and no quarterback?
I don't know if you've heard, but the Bears drafted some guy named Williams. I hear he plays left tackle. Anyone know if this is true?
I said I was disappointed in the drafting done TODAY... I actually was fine with the picks yesterday.
So...Uh...Who's gonna play Left Guard, again? The corner we just drafted? God knows there's no room for a corner on the depth chart. We must have drafted a dozen corners over the past 3 years. Maybe JA did that one just to make BC shut up or something.
Corner : Jerry Angelo = Second Base: Jim Hendry
Right now our Left Guard is Terrence Metcalf (worst Bears Guard in a long time) or Josh Beekman (couldn't get into a game even with Metcalf playing). What happens if Garza gets injured? Whoever steps in for him is going to make him look like Faneca. That's an issue here, too. Roy Schuening fell about two rounds further than expected and we ignored him. I have no problem with JA taking DTs until Tommie Harris and Dusty Dvoracek stop falling apart, but we can't be drafting cornerbacks and safeties before the seventh when Terrence Metcalf is a starter at Guard.
Guess we re-sign Ruben Brown tomorrow.
At least I got my comedy for the week reading Maryhotty's love letter to Mendenhall.
Welcome to the Terrence Metcalf/John St. Clair era!
Quote from: I like Jubblies on April 27, 2008, 04:12:50 PM
So...Uh...Who's gonna play Left Guard, again? The corner we just drafted? God knows there's no room for a corner on the depth chart. We must have drafted a dozen corners over the past 3 years. Maybe JA did that one just to make BC shut up or something.
If Angelo had picked a guard instead of either the defensive tackle the team didn't need all that much or the defensive end the team didn't need at all, this day would've actually been all right except for the ignoring of the quarterback position. But ignoring the offensive line AND quarterback is just painful...
Maybe the Baldwin pick was done to give Dan Bazuin some competition in camp.
Quote from: Ogden on April 27, 2008, 04:07:35 PM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 03:55:37 PM
A defensive end, Ervin Baldwin, from Michigan State taken with pick 208...
Good job Jerry! The Bears HAVE defensive ends!
The Packers pick Flynn with the 209th pick.
I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or punch someone in the face with how this draft has gone today for the Bears. Bennett, Steltz and Bowman made sense but Harrison and the two Michigan State guys haven't... No offensive lineman/linemen and no quarterback?
Don't get punched in the face, Ogden. BC is angry! Or sad. Or amused. He's a loose cannon. And he might punch you in the face, Ogden.
I don't know if you've heard, but the Bears drafted some guy named Williams. I hear he plays left tackle. Anyone know if this is true?
Finally, an offensive lineman!
Happy to see the Army guy get picked...
So I guess all Angelo has to do now to make BC happy is draft Anthony Morelli.
Quote from: Ogden on April 27, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
So I guess all Angelo has to do now to make BC happy is draft Anthony Morelli.
No, he completed his duty to piss me off a couple hours ago.
The only QB left worth taking a chance on, in my opinion, is Keller from Nebraska. Flynn was the other guy worth taking a shot at, but the Packers drafted him.
This Army guy obviously hates America, or love terrorists, because he sure seems excited about playing a game instead of fighting for our freedom. Way to let Osama off the hook guy.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 04:26:27 PM
Finally, an offensive lineman!
Happy to see the Army guy get picked...
Just read the scouting report on him.
Chester Adams, RT, GeorgiaDevelopmental prospect. If a team loves him, cherishes him, shows him affection, cleans his litter box, scratches behind his ears, and teaches him how to play football, may grow up to be a mediocre Right Guard in a few years.Kinda sounds like that Tackle we drafted in the seventh last year from Northeast Des Moine Community College or whatever. I'm kind of concerned about what happens between now and the time this guy learns how to play football, though.
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 02:45:59 PM
I wanted the Bears to draft Dixon, even though he'll likely be IR'd to give him a full year to come back from his ACL surgery, and then I remembered that this was the Bears we were talking about. They'd have about as much use for a 6'3 QB who can move around in the pocket as they would for a left fielder or a sous chef.
I concur on Ainge and Woodson. Blecch. Brohm was the only QB they had a chance to pass on who interested me, and if only so I could write "tissue issue" for a couple of years before he died on the field.
I'm not saying Brohm isn't prone to injury, but his only real injuries were blowing out a knee (ACL I believe) and breaking his hand (only out a month). In high school, he was pretty durable... I remember you saying he had major injuries all three of his years starting in college, but honestly, I can't remember more than that. Correct me if I'm wrong...
He also comes from a family of quarterbacks with some NFL experience... so more than likely, he will know what to expect and the learning curve won't be that high. He will be interesting to watch... although, he came from my high school's biggest rival... It was an all boys Catholic high school... so we know he's pretty durable at fighting off priests in the pocket.
Quote from: powen01 on April 27, 2008, 04:44:41 PM
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 02:45:59 PM
I wanted the Bears to draft Dixon, even though he'll likely be IR'd to give him a full year to come back from his ACL surgery, and then I remembered that this was the Bears we were talking about. They'd have about as much use for a 6'3 QB who can move around in the pocket as they would for a left fielder or a sous chef.
I concur on Ainge and Woodson. Blecch. Brohm was the only QB they had a chance to pass on who interested me, and if only so I could write "tissue issue" for a couple of years before he died on the field.
I'm not saying Brohm isn't prone to injury, but his only real injuries were blowing out a knee (ACL I believe) and breaking his hand (only out a month). In high school, he was pretty durable... I remember you saying he had major injuries all three of his years starting in college, but honestly, I can't remember more than that. Correct me if I'm wrong...
He also comes from a family of quarterbacks with some NFL experience... so more than likely, he will know what to expect and the learning curve won't be that high. He will be interesting to watch... although, he came from my high school's biggest rival... It was an all boys Catholic high school... so we know he's pretty durable at fighting off priests in the pocket.
Maybe we should look into Cooper Manning. He's 34 and has spinal stenosis, but his dad was in the NFL and both of his brothers won the Super Bowl.
Quote from: Ogden on April 27, 2008, 04:50:46 PM
Maybe we should look into Cooper Manning. He's 34 and has spinal stenosis, but his dad was in the NFL and both of his brothers won the Super Bowl.
You jest, but I'd hand him the starting job right now if he could get a quack to clear him.
The brother of my brother's best friend got drafted by the Jets in the first round.
Sorry, dude.
Quote from: KD on April 27, 2008, 05:43:11 PM
The brother of my brother's best friend got drafted by the Jets in the first round.
Sorry, dude.
The brother of your brother's best friend is black? Or was it the other guy?
Boiler TE Dustin Keller? How many brothers of NFL TE's can we associate ourselves with? I say there's no limit to what we can accomplish together.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 06:15:55 PM
Boiler TE Dustin Keller? How many brothers of NFL TE's can we associate ourselves with? I say there's no limit to what we can accomplish together.
Since you brought it up, the Browns traded up to get a TE. It was Rucker from Mizzou, who may or may not be good but either way that just about spells curtains for any roster spot for young Slak.
BTW, in case it isn't painfully clear: BC RUINS SPORTS.
Quote from: powen01 on April 27, 2008, 04:44:41 PM
Quote from: Andy on April 27, 2008, 02:45:59 PM
I wanted the Bears to draft Dixon, even though he'll likely be IR'd to give him a full year to come back from his ACL surgery, and then I remembered that this was the Bears we were talking about. They'd have about as much use for a 6'3 QB who can move around in the pocket as they would for a left fielder or a sous chef.
I concur on Ainge and Woodson. Blecch. Brohm was the only QB they had a chance to pass on who interested me, and if only so I could write "tissue issue" for a couple of years before he died on the field.
I'm not saying Brohm isn't prone to injury, but his only real injuries were blowing out a knee (ACL I believe) and breaking his hand (only out a month). In high school, he was pretty durable... I remember you saying he had major injuries all three of his years starting in college, but honestly, I can't remember more than that. Correct me if I'm wrong...
He also comes from a family of quarterbacks with some NFL experience... so more than likely, he will know what to expect and the learning curve won't be that high. He will be interesting to watch... although, he came from my high school's biggest rival... It was an all boys Catholic high school... so we know he's pretty durable at fighting off priests in the pocket.
I believe in three years Brohm tore his ACL, tore a ligament in this thumb and tore a ligament in his ankle. Otherwise, he was the picture of health.
He'll be doing towel drills in the Packers bullpen for the next three years.
Mark Gastineau?
Dude, really?
Mark Gastineau?
I thought it was a solid draft for the Bears. Filled a need at left tackle and got a RB to push Benson for the starting job. As far a picking a QB, outside of Matt Ryan it wasn't an impressive field for QBs. Brohm gets hurt too much and Henne and Ainge both suck.
Harrison will be the key to the draft for the Bears. He's a lot better on the field than his draft position indicates.
It's just a matter of what he does off the field.
Quote from: PTanner on April 28, 2008, 07:17:06 AM
Harrison will be the key to the draft for the Bears. He's a lot better on the field than his draft position indicates.
It's just a matter of what he does off the field.
Harrison's insane. The Bears got another Tank. He can play, though. Like Tank.
The key to the draft is Marcus Monk. Why? He's good. More importantly, my dad coached him at East Poinsett County High School. Word.
I think Chicago had a pretty good draft.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Even with his illustrious career of horrible sentence structure and incomprehensible thoughts, that one is a BC Hall-of-famer.
Quote from: Shooter on April 28, 2008, 08:02:16 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Even with his illustrious career of horrible sentence structure and incomprehensible thoughts, that one is a BC Hall-of-famer.
Geez, I thought Casey Stengel was dead.
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 07:33:25 AM
Quote from: PTanner on April 28, 2008, 07:17:06 AM
Harrison will be the key to the draft for the Bears. He's a lot better on the field than his draft position indicates.
It's just a matter of what he does off the field.
Harrison's insane. The Bears got another Tank. He can play, though. Like Tank.
The key to the draft is Marcus Monk. Why? He's good. More importantly, my dad coached him at East Poinsett County High School. Word.
I think Chicago had a pretty good draft.
I like Monk. He had some great years for Arkansas with some really sh1tty QBs throwing him the ball. The best QB he had there was when McFadden lined up as a QB on some plays. He will feel at home in Chicago in that sense. I was really surprised to see him fall this far and he might just be the sleeper of the draft.
Quote from: Shooter on April 28, 2008, 08:02:16 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.
Even with his illustrious career of horrible sentence structure and incomprehensible thoughts, that one is a BC Hall-of-famer.
Kudos for reading through that and not having a hemorrhage.
Quote from: air2300 on April 28, 2008, 08:15:50 AM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 07:33:25 AM
Quote from: PTanner on April 28, 2008, 07:17:06 AM
Harrison will be the key to the draft for the Bears. He's a lot better on the field than his draft position indicates.
It's just a matter of what he does off the field.
Harrison's insane. The Bears got another Tank. He can play, though. Like Tank.
The key to the draft is Marcus Monk. Why? He's good. More importantly, my dad coached him at East Poinsett County High School. Word.
I think Chicago had a pretty good draft.
I like Monk. He had some great years for Arkansas with some really sh1tty QBs throwing him the ball. The best QB he had there was when McFadden lined up as a QB on some plays. He will feel at home in Chicago in that sense. I was really surprised to see him fall this far and he might just be the sleeper of the draft.
He had that knee injury this year and I think that really hurt him. He should have redshirted, but he felt some obligation to the team to try and come back because they had no other decent reciever. It also hurts that he's had such crappy college coaching that it's going to take a lot of coaching to catch him up to the rest of the recievers. Seriously, Arkansas has 3 routes---run as fast as you can straight down the field; run to some open space, stop, and turn around; and, run across the field in front of the qb when he's on a bootleg or something. There hasn't been a post pattern at Arkansas since the 2000 Cotton Bowl. He's a good guy, though, and he'll work hard. Plus, he's tall and can jump. He should at least make a pretty good endzone target.
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 12:59:28 PM
The Bears pick a corner, Zack Bowman, from Nebraska in the fifth round... I liked him as possibly a seventh-round sort of guy, although some draft guys had him going in the fifth or sixth rounds.
You honestly believe that you know enough about these players to distinguish between the 150th best and the 175th best and the 200th best?
He couldn't pick Zack Bowman out of a police lineup. Which, incidentally is where Nebraska used to find guys like Bowman.
Quote from: Shooter on April 28, 2008, 08:31:26 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 12:59:28 PM
The Bears pick a corner, Zack Bowman, from Nebraska in the fifth round... I liked him as possibly a seventh-round sort of guy, although some draft guys had him going in the fifth or sixth rounds.
You honestly believe that you know enough about these players to distinguish between the 150th best and the 175th best and the 200th best?
I was looking to say something along those lines, but you beat me to it. You're a first-round pick in my book, Shooter. BC's a non-roster invitee or whatever they call it in football.
Earl Bennett and Marcus Monk could both start from Day 1, and be better than last year's starters. Neither is a deep threat like Berrian, but both have the ability to be more consistent and occasionally stretch a defense vertically. Besides, you'd hope that someone between Davis, Bradley and Hester could become a 3rd WR/deep threat. Marcus Monk made Matt Jones look like a viable QB. If he didn't have the injury concerns, he'd have gone in the 2nd or 3rd round. He could have a Colston type impact, and now Rex Orton has three legitimate red zone targets in Olsen, Monk and Bennett.
I'm surprised that Ali Highsmith wasn't drafted. He ran a terrible 40, but he was hurt at the combine and still ran. Maybe it's because he's stupid, he didn't qualify academically at Miami, but he made plays at LSU and stayed out of trouble. He could make a pretty decent weakside LB in a Cover 2.
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2008, 08:33:53 AM
He couldn't pick Zack Bowman out of a police lineup. Which, incidentally is where Nebraska used to find guys like Bowman.
Now that Tom Osbourne is back in the fold at Nebraska, their coaches have resumed going to the prisons and police stations for recruitng.
Quote from: Waco Kid on April 28, 2008, 08:41:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2008, 08:33:53 AM
He couldn't pick Zack Bowman out of a police lineup. Which, incidentally is where Nebraska used to find guys like Bowman.
Now that Tom Osbourne is back in the fold at Nebraska, their coaches have resumed going to the prisons and police stations for recruitng.
So when does Wesley Snipes suit up?
Quote from: PTanner on April 28, 2008, 09:07:59 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on April 28, 2008, 08:41:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2008, 08:33:53 AM
He couldn't pick Zack Bowman out of a police lineup. Which, incidentally is where Nebraska used to find guys like Bowman.
Now that Tom Osbourne is back in the fold at Nebraska, their coaches have resumed going to the prisons and police stations for recruitng.
So when does Wesley Snipes suit up?
Since he runs like Hayes, probably this season.
They Bears have gone the last 3 drafts without taking a QB in any round, right? And save for half of one year, they've had shitty QB play since BC first started sleeping through English class. Next year's QB draft is already thin. They keep setting their progress back because they aren't trying to stabilize the most important position on the field. No, you don't need a HOF to win the Super Bol, but you can't do it with a bad QB. An average QB who doesn't make retarded mistakes is enough.
Let's face it....the D isn't getting younger. And they aren't nearly as good as they were in the Super Bowl.
I think the defense will be much better than last year, the offense won't be worse.
So here we come 9-7! Yay?
The time to do something bold has passed, now they're just too good not to get a good draft pick and too bad to contend for anything of substance.
Guh. Welcome (back) to hell.
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
I think the defense will be much better than last year, the offense won't be worse.
So here we come 9-7! Yay?
The time to do something bold has passed, now they're just too good not to get a good draft pick and too bad to contend for anything of substance.
Guh. Welcome (back) to hell.
If you rank season success, doesn't going 7-9 have to be near or at the bottom?
I can't see 9 wins from this team. I think that's a huge reach.
I'm glad I missed out on this thread. I got through three pages and realized BC was probably going to post dozens more times, so I just stopped reading. I think that was the right decision.
Quote from: EG on April 28, 2008, 10:06:50 AM
I'm glad I missed out on this thread. I got through three pages and realized BC was probably going to post dozens more times, so I just stopped reading. I think that was the right decision.
You
know it was.
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 28, 2008, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
I think the defense will be much better than last year, the offense won't be worse.
So here we come 9-7! Yay?
The time to do something bold has passed, now they're just too good not to get a good draft pick and too bad to contend for anything of substance.
Guh. Welcome (back) to hell.
If you rank season success, doesn't going 7-9 have to be near or at the bottom?
I can't see 9 wins from this team. I think that's a huge reach.
I think I can see it. The NFC North is shitty. Griese won't be around to throw end zone picks against the Lions and Green Bay will suffer with the loss of Favruh. Hope for a split with the Vikings and maybe there's 4-5 wins in the division.
Does this thread really suck as bad as CT tells me it does? If so, I'll just skip it.
Quote from: Kerm on April 28, 2008, 10:43:46 AM
Does this thread really suck as bad as CT tells me it does? If so, I'll just skip it.
No way.
It's awesome.
Start at the beginning, and savor it.
Quote from: Waco Kid on April 28, 2008, 10:13:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 28, 2008, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
I think the defense will be much better than last year, the offense won't be worse.
So here we come 9-7! Yay?
The time to do something bold has passed, now they're just too good not to get a good draft pick and too bad to contend for anything of substance.
Guh. Welcome (back) to hell.
If you rank season success, doesn't going 7-9 have to be near or at the bottom?
I can't see 9 wins from this team. I think that's a huge reach.
I think I can see it. The NFC North is shitty. Griese won't be around to throw end zone picks against the Lions and Green Bay will suffer with the loss of Favruh. Hope for a split with the Vikings and maybe there's 4-5 wins in the division.
I like how everybody is jumping on the Vikings bandwagon. No matter how good Peterson is, you can count on him to miss 4-6 games and Jackson is still their Starting QB. Bears with 9 wins can win the division.
Quote from: Kerm on April 28, 2008, 10:43:46 AM
Does this thread really suck as bad as CT tells me it does? If so, I'll just skip it.
Have I ever steered you wrong before?
Quote from: CT II on April 28, 2008, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Kerm on April 28, 2008, 10:43:46 AM
Does this thread really suck as bad as CT tells me it does? If so, I'll just skip it.
Have I ever steered you wrong before?
No, but that's only because I'M always the one driving YOUR ass around.
Quote from: air2300 on April 28, 2008, 11:20:11 AM
I like how everybody is jumping on the Vikings bandwagon. No matter how good Peterson is, you can count on him to miss 4-6 games and Jackson is still their Starting QB. Bears with 9 wins can win the division.
Peter King believes in Tarvaris Jackson and that belief is rooted in sincerity, as evidenced by the tears that fell on his keyboard while typing the sentence that told Brad Childress to not give up on Tarvaris Jackson.
Quote from: air2300 on April 28, 2008, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on April 28, 2008, 10:13:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 28, 2008, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
I think the defense will be much better than last year, the offense won't be worse.
So here we come 9-7! Yay?
The time to do something bold has passed, now they're just too good not to get a good draft pick and too bad to contend for anything of substance.
Guh. Welcome (back) to hell.
If you rank season success, doesn't going 7-9 have to be near or at the bottom?
I can't see 9 wins from this team. I think that's a huge reach.
I think I can see it. The NFC North is shitty. Griese won't be around to throw end zone picks against the Lions and Green Bay will suffer with the loss of Favruh. Hope for a split with the Vikings and maybe there's 4-5 wins in the division.
I like how everybody is jumping on the Vikings bandwagon. No matter how good Peterson is, you can count on him to miss 4-6 games and Jackson is still their Starting QB. Bears with 9 wins can win the division.
I'm not jumping on the Vikings bandwagon. However, Peterson did run wild all over the Bears last year, so right now barring an injury or the Bears somehow stopping him, I'm still hoping for a split.
Quote from: Waco Kid on April 28, 2008, 11:47:43 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 28, 2008, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on April 28, 2008, 10:13:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky+ on April 28, 2008, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
I think the defense will be much better than last year, the offense won't be worse.
So here we come 9-7! Yay?
The time to do something bold has passed, now they're just too good not to get a good draft pick and too bad to contend for anything of substance.
Guh. Welcome (back) to hell.
If you rank season success, doesn't going 7-9 have to be near or at the bottom?
I can't see 9 wins from this team. I think that's a huge reach.
I think I can see it. The NFC North is shitty. Griese won't be around to throw end zone picks against the Lions and Green Bay will suffer with the loss of Favruh. Hope for a split with the Vikings and maybe there's 4-5 wins in the division.
I like how everybody is jumping on the Vikings bandwagon. No matter how good Peterson is, you can count on him to miss 4-6 games and Jackson is still their Starting QB. Bears with 9 wins can win the division.
I'm not jumping on the Vikings bandwagon. However, Peterson did run wild all over the Bears last year, so right now barring an injury or the Bears somehow stopping him, I'm still hoping for a split.
You mean the injuries that happen every year to a guy that runs straight up and always fights for extra yards? If Adrian Peterson plays 10 seasons, he might have 2 where he plays 16 games. He's had serious injuries that tend to recur (knee and collarbone), plus he keeps getting different injuries because he plays too physical for his body. The injuries will catch up to him soon and not just take him out of games, they'll limit his explosiveness and agility when he does get on the field.
I had ESPN on for a while yesterday during the draft. Long enough to see an old clip of a very clueless person announcing that Brett Favor had been selected.
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 11:41:47 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 28, 2008, 11:20:11 AM
I like how everybody is jumping on the Vikings bandwagon. No matter how good Peterson is, you can count on him to miss 4-6 games and Jackson is still their Starting QB. Bears with 9 wins can win the division.
Peter King believes in Tarvaris Jackson and that belief is rooted in sincerity, as evidenced by the tears that fell on his keyboard while typing the sentence that told Brad Childress to not give up on Tarvaris Jackson.
Of course, as we all know, Peter King doesn't actually watch any football.
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 11:41:47 AM
Peter King believes in Tarvaris Jackson and that belief is rooted in sincerity, as evidenced by the tears that fell on his keyboard while typing the sentence that told Brad Childress to not give up on Tarvaris Jackson.
I really feel like Tarvaris Jackson is just Henry Burris under a pseudonym.
Quote from: Pre on April 28, 2008, 12:40:41 PM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 11:41:47 AM
Peter King believes in Tarvaris Jackson and that belief is rooted in sincerity, as evidenced by the tears that fell on his keyboard while typing the sentence that told Brad Childress to not give up on Tarvaris Jackson.
I really feel like Tarvaris Jackson is just Henry Burris under a pseudonym.
That's a damn good comparison.
Quote from: Kerm on April 28, 2008, 11:28:09 AM
Quote from: CT II on April 28, 2008, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Kerm on April 28, 2008, 10:43:46 AM
Does this thread really suck as bad as CT tells me it does? If so, I'll just skip it.
Have I ever steered you wrong before?
No, but that's only because I'M always the one driving YOUR ass around.
This from the guy who couldn't be bothered to give his own father a ride to the field.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 28, 2008, 12:59:12 PM
Quote from: Pre on April 28, 2008, 12:40:41 PM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 11:41:47 AM
Peter King believes in Tarvaris Jackson and that belief is rooted in sincerity, as evidenced by the tears that fell on his keyboard while typing the sentence that told Brad Childress to not give up on Tarvaris Jackson.
I really feel like Tarvaris Jackson is just Henry Burris under a pseudonym.
That's a damn good comparison.
Racists.
Quote from: CT II on April 28, 2008, 12:59:49 PM
Quote from: Kerm on April 28, 2008, 11:28:09 AM
Quote from: CT II on April 28, 2008, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Kerm on April 28, 2008, 10:43:46 AM
Does this thread really suck as bad as CT tells me it does? If so, I'll just skip it.
Have I ever steered you wrong before?
No, but that's only because I'M always the one driving YOUR ass around.
This from the guy who couldn't be bothered to give his own father a ride to the field.
I offered!
I had such high hopes for this draft thread. How it turned out is hard to define. I think I'll wait and see how it all plays out.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:02:17 PM
I had such high hopes for this draft thread. How it turned out is hard to define. I think I'll wait and see how it all plays out.
We should, instead, rate a
draftthread from a couple years ago.
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:02:17 PM
I had such high hopes for this draft thread. How it turned out is hard to define. I think I'll wait and see how it all plays out.
We should, instead, rate a draftthread from a couple years ago.
Can it be a Paul Thread? That has yet to suck.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:02:17 PM
I had such high hopes for this draft thread. How it turned out is hard to define. I think I'll wait and see how it all plays out.
We should, instead, rate a draftthread from a couple years ago.
Can it be a Paul Thread? That has yet to suck.
Those are all near and dear to me.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:02:17 PM
I had such high hopes for this draft thread. How it turned out is hard to define. I think I'll wait and see how it all plays out.
We should, instead, rate a draftthread from a couple years ago.
Can it be a Paul Thread? That has yet to suck.
I'll give you a Bears thread that is nothing but BC and Paul ranting for a page and a half.
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=1782
I'm not even sure what to compare that pairing to.
Quote from: EG on April 28, 2008, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:02:17 PM
I had such high hopes for this draft thread. How it turned out is hard to define. I think I'll wait and see how it all plays out.
We should, instead, rate a draftthread from a couple years ago.
Can it be a Paul Thread? That has yet to suck.
I'll give you a Bears thread that is nothing but BC and Paul ranting for a page and a half.
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=1782
I'm not even sure what to compare that pairing to.
You did it, EG! You herded cats! Okay it was only two, but they said it was impossible.
I like how Paul called the season over 2 quarters into it like the hysterically overdramatic bitch that he was, in a season in which the Bears would eventually win a division. I can see why I once thought The Smirk really was Teh Paul.
Also, thank for the reminder that I totally fucking ragged on Tommie Harris, EG. I'm hanging my head for that one.
Quote from: EG on April 28, 2008, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 28, 2008, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 28, 2008, 09:02:17 PM
I had such high hopes for this draft thread. How it turned out is hard to define. I think I'll wait and see how it all plays out.
We should, instead, rate a draftthread from a couple years ago.
Can it be a Paul Thread? That has yet to suck.
I'll give you a Bears thread that is nothing but BC and Paul ranting for a page and a half.
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=1782
I'm not even sure what to compare that pairing to.
That wasn't nearly as entertaining as I'd hoped.
The two of them barely interact, each preferring to mostly respond to himself.
Disappointing, frankly.
Quote from: Thrillho on April 28, 2008, 11:25:43 PM
That wasn't nearly as entertaining as I'd hoped.
The two of them barely interact, each preferring to mostly respond to himself.
Disappointing, frankly.
Actually, the fact that they never interacted was part of why I found it funny. Two people combined for 20-plus posts on a
discussion board, without ever actually talking to one another. I think it sums up both of their self-important, deluded personalities quite well.
Annnnd, that's probably enough messageboard psychoanalysis for a month.
Quote from: EG on April 28, 2008, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on April 28, 2008, 11:25:43 PM
That wasn't nearly as entertaining as I'd hoped.
The two of them barely interact, each preferring to mostly respond to himself.
Disappointing, frankly.
Actually, the fact that they never interacted was part of why I found it funny. Two people combined for 20-plus posts on a discussion board, without ever actually talking to one another. I think it sums up both of their self-important, deluded personalities quite well.
Annnnd, that's probably enough messageboard psychoanalysis for a month.
If any poster was unsure of the term "Paulcast", I think it's pretty clear now.
Only Paul could have predicted the legacy that Paul would have left here.
Quote from: Thrillho on April 28, 2008, 11:25:43 PM
That wasn't nearly as entertaining as I'd hoped.
The two of them barely interact, each preferring to mostly respond to himself.
Disappointing, frankly.
It was just like the diner scene from "Heat."
Quote from: Andy on April 29, 2008, 08:28:45 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on April 28, 2008, 11:25:43 PM
That wasn't nearly as entertaining as I'd hoped.
The two of them barely interact, each preferring to mostly respond to himself.
Disappointing, frankly.
It was just like the diner scene from "Heat."
or the heat scene from "Diner".
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: Ogden on April 27, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
So I guess all Angelo has to do now to make BC happy is draft Anthony Morelli.
No, he completed his duty to piss me off a couple hours ago.
The only QB left worth taking a chance on, in my opinion, is Keller from Nebraska. Flynn was the other guy worth taking a shot at, but the Packers drafted him.
Aw, don't worry BC (or Peter King): LeRoy Butler says Brett Favre's coming back to play for the Bears next year. (http://www.todaystmj4.com/bloggers/lanceallan/18390904.html?video=YHI&t=a)
Quote from: TJ on May 02, 2008, 12:39:56 PM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: Ogden on April 27, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
So I guess all Angelo has to do now to make BC happy is draft Anthony Morelli.
No, he completed his duty to piss me off a couple hours ago.
The only QB left worth taking a chance on, in my opinion, is Keller from Nebraska. Flynn was the other guy worth taking a shot at, but the Packers drafted him.
Aw, don't worry BC (or Peter King): LeRoy Butler says Brett Favre's coming back to play for the Bears next year. (http://www.todaystmj4.com/bloggers/lanceallan/18390904.html?video=YHI&t=a)
No audio at work, but this looks credible. Butler uses all kinds of hand gestures that indicate he's telling the truth about whatever it is he's saying.
So Favre gets to put a cherry on top of the sundae that was killing the Bears all these years by donning the Navy and Orange and throwing 20TDs
and 32INTs
Quote from: Al Czervik on May 02, 2008, 01:04:45 PM
No audio at work, but this looks credible. Butler uses all kinds of hand gestures that indicate he's telling the truth about whatever it is he's saying.
So Favre gets to put a cherry on top of the sundae that was killing the Bears all these years by donning the Navy and Orange and throwing 20TDs and 32INTs
Which by Bears standards, wouldn't be all that bad.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on May 02, 2008, 01:11:30 PM
Quote from: Al Czervik on May 02, 2008, 01:04:45 PM
No audio at work, but this looks credible. Butler uses all kinds of hand gestures that indicate he's telling the truth about whatever it is he's saying.
So Favre gets to put a cherry on top of the sundae that was killing the Bears all these years by donning the Navy and Orange and throwing 20TDs and 32INTs
Which by Bears standards, wouldn't be all that bad.
Now you're just trolling. Mods!!!
Quote from: Al Czervik on May 02, 2008, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: TJ on May 02, 2008, 12:39:56 PM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: Ogden on April 27, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
So I guess all Angelo has to do now to make BC happy is draft Anthony Morelli.
No, he completed his duty to piss me off a couple hours ago.
The only QB left worth taking a chance on, in my opinion, is Keller from Nebraska. Flynn was the other guy worth taking a shot at, but the Packers drafted him.
Aw, don't worry BC (or Peter King): LeRoy Butler says Brett Favre's coming back to play for the Bears next year. (http://www.todaystmj4.com/bloggers/lanceallan/18390904.html?video=YHI&t=a)
No audio at work, but this looks credible. Butler uses all kinds of hand gestures that indicate he's telling the truth about whatever it is he's saying.
So Favre gets to put a cherry on top of the sundae that was killing the Bears all these years by donning the Navy and Orange and throwing 20TDs and 32INTs
Well I passed Brett on the highway the other day. He was driving his H2, so I think that lends credibility to the statement with the way gas prices are rising.
Quote from: Al Czervik on May 02, 2008, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: TJ on May 02, 2008, 12:39:56 PM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: Ogden on April 27, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
So I guess all Angelo has to do now to make BC happy is draft Anthony Morelli.
No, he completed his duty to piss me off a couple hours ago.
The only QB left worth taking a chance on, in my opinion, is Keller from Nebraska. Flynn was the other guy worth taking a shot at, but the Packers drafted him.
Aw, don't worry BC (or Peter King): LeRoy Butler says Brett Favre's coming back to play for the Bears next year. (http://www.todaystmj4.com/bloggers/lanceallan/18390904.html?video=YHI&t=a)
No audio at work, but this looks credible. Butler uses all kinds of hand gestures that indicate he's telling the truth about whatever it is he's saying.
So Favre gets to put a cherry on top of the sundae that was killing the Bears all these years by donning the Navy and Orange and throwing 20TDs and 32INTs
Well it IS
LeRoy Butler. Only if Peter King would make a similar pronouncement would you have a more credible source.
Butler also suggests Minnesota and Detroit.
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 27, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy. But you keep bashing Angelo.
Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...
Hence the glut of late-round picks. If Angelo does one thing right, it's find defensive diamonds in the rough in the late rounds. I say the more chances he has to get this right the better.
1. Tillman
2. Briggs
3. A. Brown
4. Vasher
5. Ayenbadejo
6. Azumah
7. Dvoracek
8. McBride
What do these guys have in common? Besides being pretty good, I mean.
Wha' ha-ppen?
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on May 02, 2008, 01:11:30 PM
Quote from: Al Czervik on May 02, 2008, 01:04:45 PM
No audio at work, but this looks credible. Butler uses all kinds of hand gestures that indicate he's telling the truth about whatever it is he's saying.
So Favre gets to put a cherry on top of the sundae that was killing the Bears all these years by donning the Navy and Orange and throwing 20TDs and 32INTs
Which by Bears standards, wouldn't be all that bad.
This is funny too. Aren't we on pace for something like this? And isn't LDA still right?