KASPLOOGE!
I'm going on an all-egg white diet in anticipation of future Uncle Milty pop shots.
Quote from: Tank on April 10, 2009, 05:14:42 PM
I'm going on an all-egg white diet in anticipation of future Uncle Milty pop shots.
Are egg whites better for distance or consistency? Volume?
Quote from: Slakee on April 10, 2009, 07:03:35 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 10, 2009, 05:14:42 PM
I'm going on an all-egg white diet in anticipation of future Uncle Milty pop shots.
Are egg whites better for distance or consistency? Volume?
Info courtesy of SBox link from PenFoe (very
NSFW)...
http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/01/mnp-productio-1.html
CytoSport™ Muscle Milk®—Banana Creme for color, consistency and volume.
QuoteMy pop shots are really thick and white now and so I don't spray or shoot much, but the volume is definitely there. It has been a lifesaver.
NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-x9kMPauc&feature=related)
Quote from: ~Apex on April 10, 2009, 08:02:49 PM
NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-x9kMPauc&feature=related)
The fuck?
And Milt gets hurt before the home opener.
We're fucked.
Not as fucked as the Brewers pitching staff.
Quote from: ChuckD on April 12, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
We're fucked.
I just heard he died on the clubhouse table.
I think he's fine, but, I'll take any excuse to paste my favorite line delivery in film history, also my favorite 1 second clip of all-time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhI0OVs_zj0
So, in retrospect, I guess it's a good thing Milt got hurt.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 12, 2009, 11:02:05 PM
So, in retrospect, I guess it's a good thing Milt got hurt.
He even gets hurt at the most opportune time!
Quote from: Brownie on April 13, 2009, 08:58:42 AM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 12, 2009, 11:02:05 PM
So, in retrospect, I guess it's a good thing Milt got hurt.
He even gets hurt at the most opportune time!
Has the Hank White Strategic Strikeout been replaced with the Crazy Uncle Milton Strategic Injury?
Out 3-5 days.
(http://flashwarner.com/images/unbreakable2.jpg)
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Sounded like a really bad call on the radio..
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
Quote from: BH on April 16, 2009, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Sounded like a really bad call on the radio..
Yeah it did.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
I was surprised to hear the racists cheering him when he came out to pinch hit. Must be setting him up for a fall later in the year.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
Not even close. Milt has a decent eye, I'd say - he got hosed.
Quote from: Slakee on April 16, 2009, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
Not even close. Milt has a decent eye, I'd say - he got hosed.
The ball was 4"-6" off the inside corner and never came close to breaking over the plate.
I hope this home plate umpire finds a way to die in a pool of his own vomit while choking on his bile.
Edit: After he didn't give the call to Cotts, let me rephrase--it's clearly Tony LaRussa's dick he's choking on.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 16, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 16, 2009, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
Not even close. Milt has a decent eye, I'd say - he got hosed.
The ball was 4"-6" off the inside corner and never came close to breaking over the plate.
I hope this home plate umpire finds a way to die in a pool of his own vomit while choking on his bile.
Get used to seeing that a lot this year. Every umpire in the league wants to fuck with Milt.
Oh, and fuck Cotts, Patton and Heilman.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 16, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 16, 2009, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
Not even close. Milt has a decent eye, I'd say - he got hosed.
The ball was 4"-6" off the inside corner and never came close to breaking over the plate.
I hope this home plate umpire finds a way to die in a pool of his own vomit while choking on his bile.
Get used to seeing that a lot this year. Every umpire in the league wants to fuck with Milt.
Oh, and fuck Cotts, Patton and Heilman.
Good to know MLB umps are professionals.
Oh wait, we've known that they're hacks for a while now...
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 16, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 16, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 16, 2009, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
Not even close. Milt has a decent eye, I'd say - he got hosed.
The ball was 4"-6" off the inside corner and never came close to breaking over the plate.
I hope this home plate umpire finds a way to die in a pool of his own vomit while choking on his bile.
Get used to seeing that a lot this year. Every umpire in the league wants to fuck with Milt.
Oh, and fuck Cotts, Patton and Heilman.
Good to know MLB umps are professionals.
Oh wait, we've known that they're hacks for a while now...
Yeah, that bullshit doesn't surprise me at all. I'm sure Vanover had a run-in with Bradley at some point and will fuck him every chance he gets. Hell, Bradley will probably get a five-game suspension for getting tossed.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 16, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 16, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 16, 2009, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
Not even close. Milt has a decent eye, I'd say - he got hosed.
The ball was 4"-6" off the inside corner and never came close to breaking over the plate.
I hope this home plate umpire finds a way to die in a pool of his own vomit while choking on his bile.
Get used to seeing that a lot this year. Every umpire in the league wants to fuck with Milt.
Oh, and fuck Cotts, Patton and Heilman.
Good to know MLB umps are professionals.
Oh wait, we've known that they're hacks for a while now...
I don't like bitching about umps, but Cotts didn't get calls on a few pitches that would have been strikes against Milton. I know things tend to even out, but this is frustrating.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:44:44 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 16, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 16, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 16, 2009, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 16, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
if you had April 16 in the "What Day Will Milt's First Ejection Happen" Pool, please step to the window to collect your winnings.
Good for him. Those weren't strikes.
Not even close. Milt has a decent eye, I'd say - he got hosed.
The ball was 4"-6" off the inside corner and never came close to breaking over the plate.
I hope this home plate umpire finds a way to die in a pool of his own vomit while choking on his bile.
Get used to seeing that a lot this year. Every umpire in the league wants to fuck with Milt.
Oh, and fuck Cotts, Patton and Heilman.
Good to know MLB umps are professionals.
Oh wait, we've known that they're hacks for a while now...
I don't like bitching about umps, but Cotts didn't get calls on a few pitches that would have been strikes against Milton. I know things tend to even out, but this is frustrating.
Like I said, get used to seeing it as long as Bradley is here.
I hate Aaron Miles so much.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 04:24:11 PM
I hate Aaron Miles so much.
Ahem,
over here. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6738.msg174311#msg174311)
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2009, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 04:24:11 PM
I hate Aaron Miles so much.
Ahem, over here. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6738.msg174311#msg174311)
Can't he hate him on two threads?
Quote from: CBStew on April 16, 2009, 06:27:54 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2009, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2009, 04:24:11 PM
I hate Aaron Miles so much.
Ahem, over here. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6738.msg174311#msg174311)
Can't he hate him on two threads?
A very reasonable request. Granted.
That said, I want to reiterate my man-crush on Milton Bradley. If we want to put on our Gordon Douchenmeyer hats, and we don't, I'd say today's outburst probably did more to help his popularity in Chicago than harm it.
Quote from: Slakee on April 16, 2009, 06:31:05 PM
I'd say today's outburst probably did more to help his popularity in Chicago than harm it.
Without a doubt. But any self-respecting man that knew their day was done with that AB would've unloaded on the sorry excuse for an umpire behind the plate. Given how littel Bradley said, I have a lot of respect for his ability to communicate so much with so few words. If I were him, I would've showed up Vannover to the extreme and drew a line tracking the ball a good 4" or so off the plate--before unleashing the profanity.
That Lou didn't exit the dugout tells me that he's waiting to pick his spot later in the series. I expect Vannover to have his ass served to him by Lou.
I just found out that SMorph DVRed the game, so I got to watch that Milton AB a few times. The count was 5 balls and 1 strike. I mean, strikes 1 and 3 were fucking ridiculous. Strike 3 was at least 6 inches inside when it crossed the plate. It broke very hard, so it likely fooled that blind-as-a-bat Vanover, but still... no way that's a strike. Milt had every right to get in that douchebazooka's face.
Quote from: morpheus on April 16, 2009, 10:29:05 PM
I just found out that SMorph DVRed the game, so I got to watch that Milton AB a few times. The count was 5 balls and 1 strike. I mean, strikes 1 and 3 were fucking ridiculous. Strike 3 was at least 6 inches inside when it crossed the plate. It broke very hard, so it likely fooled that blind-as-a-bat Vanover, but still... no way that's a strike. Milt had every right to get in that douchebazooka's face.
Vannover was just pissed because Milton was up there being all awesome and shit.
Quote from: morpheus on April 16, 2009, 10:29:05 PM
I just found out that SMorph DVRed the game, so I got to watch that Milton AB a few times. The count was 5 balls and 1 strike. I mean, strikes 1 and 3 were fucking ridiculous. Strike 3 was at least 6 inches inside when it crossed the plate. It broke very hard, so it likely fooled that blind-as-a-bat Vanover, but still... no way that's a strike. Milt had every right to get in that douchebazooka's face.
I don't blame Milton for thrown out of the game at all. Strike 3 was a horrible call.
Quote from: Waco Kid on April 17, 2009, 08:23:33 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 16, 2009, 10:29:05 PM
I just found out that SMorph DVRed the game, so I got to watch that Milton AB a few times. The count was 5 balls and 1 strike. I mean, strikes 1 and 3 were fucking ridiculous. Strike 3 was at least 6 inches inside when it crossed the plate. It broke very hard, so it likely fooled that blind-as-a-bat Vanover, but still... no way that's a strike. Milt had every right to get in that douchebazooka's face.
I don't blame Milton for thrown out of the game at all. Strike 3 was a horrible call.
I'm sure he's happy to hear that
Doesn't sound like this ump has a hangup.... geez.
The umpire who ejected Milton Bradley in his Wrigley Field debut Friday intends to file a report stating that the outfielder made physical contact.
Bradley is in serious danger of being suspended. He struck out looking on a full count pitch and shared a brief, but aggressive, exchange with umpire Dan Iassogna, at one point knocking the ump's hat slightly up his head. The report will be filed with the Commissioner's Office on Saturday. We'll keep you updated. Apr. 17 - 9:29 am et
Source: Cubs.mlb.com
Quote from: BH on April 17, 2009, 08:43:19 AM
Doesn't sound like this ump has a hangup.... geez.
The umpire who ejected Milton Bradley in his Wrigley Field debut Friday intends to file a report stating that the outfielder made physical contact.
Bradley is in serious danger of being suspended. He struck out looking on a full count pitch and shared a brief, but aggressive, exchange with umpire Dan Iassogna, at one point knocking the ump's hat slightly up his head. The report will be filed with the Commissioner's Office on Saturday. We'll keep you updated. Apr. 17 - 9:29 am et
Source: Cubs.mlb.com
That report isn't right. Iassogna was the second base umpire who said a report would be filed. Larry Vanover was the cockbag behind the plate who ass-raped Bradley on balls and strikes and then tossed him.
According to the Trib the only contact between Bradley and Vanover was the bills of their caps and it's so brief you have to run the tape in slo-mo to even see it.
Knowing his desire to fuck the Cubs in any conceivable way I would guess Bud makes sure Bradley gets a few days off. Fucking douchebag.
When I read the report on Rotoworld I thought that it was going to be a pretty serious thing. After watching the video on Cubs.com, it was hardly an Alomar-spat-in-the-face or a Delwyn Delmon Young bat toss at the ump. That third strike was a terrible call, and in a 4-4 game in the sixth with this being Milton's only action of the game, it was actually not a bad choice to argue and get tossed. Hype up the crowd and his team a bit. It didn't work, but it didn't do anything but make me want to take him to a nice seafood and steak dinner.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 17, 2009, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: BH on April 17, 2009, 08:43:19 AM
Doesn't sound like this ump has a hangup.... geez.
The umpire who ejected Milton Bradley in his Wrigley Field debut Friday intends to file a report stating that the outfielder made physical contact.
Bradley is in serious danger of being suspended. He struck out looking on a full count pitch and shared a brief, but aggressive, exchange with umpire Dan Iassogna, at one point knocking the ump's hat slightly up his head. The report will be filed with the Commissioner's Office on Saturday. We'll keep you updated. Apr. 17 - 9:29 am et
Source: Cubs.mlb.com
That report isn't right. Iassogna was the second base umpire who said a report would be filed. Larry Vanover was the cockbag behind the plate who ass-raped Bradley on balls and strikes and then tossed him.
According to the Trib the only contact between Bradley and Vanover was the bills of their caps and it's so brief you have to run the tape in slo-mo to even see it.
Knowing his desire to fuck the Cubs in any conceivable way I would guess Bud makes sure Bradley gets a few days off. Fucking douchebag.
Given his overall competence, if Bud is trying to fuck the Cubs, the Cubs will win the pennant by August 15th.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 17, 2009, 09:31:13 AM
Delwyn Delmon Young bat toss at the ump.
Rays'd. Twins'd Corrected.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 17, 2009, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: BH on April 17, 2009, 08:43:19 AM
Doesn't sound like this ump has a hangup.... geez.
The umpire who ejected Milton Bradley in his Wrigley Field debut Friday intends to file a report stating that the outfielder made physical contact.
Bradley is in serious danger of being suspended. He struck out looking on a full count pitch and shared a brief, but aggressive, exchange with umpire Dan Iassogna, at one point knocking the ump's hat slightly up his head. The report will be filed with the Commissioner's Office on Saturday. We'll keep you updated. Apr. 17 - 9:29 am et
Source: Cubs.mlb.com
That report isn't right. Iassogna was the second base umpire who said a report would be filed. Larry Vanover was the cockbag behind the plate who ass-raped Bradley on balls and strikes and then tossed him.
According to the Trib the only contact between Bradley and Vanover was the bills of their caps and it's so brief you have to run the tape in slo-mo to even see it.
Knowing his desire to fuck the Cubs in any conceivable way I would guess Bud makes sure Bradley gets a few days off. Fucking douchebag.
As predicted... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4079417)
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on April 18, 2009, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 17, 2009, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: BH on April 17, 2009, 08:43:19 AM
Doesn't sound like this ump has a hangup.... geez.
The umpire who ejected Milton Bradley in his Wrigley Field debut Friday intends to file a report stating that the outfielder made physical contact.
Bradley is in serious danger of being suspended. He struck out looking on a full count pitch and shared a brief, but aggressive, exchange with umpire Dan Iassogna, at one point knocking the ump's hat slightly up his head. The report will be filed with the Commissioner's Office on Saturday. We'll keep you updated. Apr. 17 - 9:29 am et
Source: Cubs.mlb.com
That report isn't right. Iassogna was the second base umpire who said a report would be filed. Larry Vanover was the cockbag behind the plate who ass-raped Bradley on balls and strikes and then tossed him.
According to the Trib the only contact between Bradley and Vanover was the bills of their caps and it's so brief you have to run the tape in slo-mo to even see it.
Knowing his desire to fuck the Cubs in any conceivable way I would guess Bud makes sure Bradley gets a few days off. Fucking douchebag.
As predicted... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4079417)
QuoteThough television replays made it appear Cardinals starter Adam Wainwright received a generous call, he said the pitch "was too close to take."
On Friday, Bradley refused to talk about the incident, while Piniella backed his player, saying "it didn't look like a good pitch to me."
Cardinals manager Tony La Russa countered Piniella's take.
"I don't know how the Cubs get away with making the comments they make about umpires," he said.
Mother. Fucker.
He should just sit out a couple of games while he's still kinda hurt so he can rest up.
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on April 18, 2009, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 17, 2009, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: BH on April 17, 2009, 08:43:19 AM
Doesn't sound like this ump has a hangup.... geez.
The umpire who ejected Milton Bradley in his Wrigley Field debut Friday intends to file a report stating that the outfielder made physical contact.
Bradley is in serious danger of being suspended. He struck out looking on a full count pitch and shared a brief, but aggressive, exchange with umpire Dan Iassogna, at one point knocking the ump's hat slightly up his head. The report will be filed with the Commissioner's Office on Saturday. We'll keep you updated. Apr. 17 - 9:29 am et
Source: Cubs.mlb.com
That report isn't right. Iassogna was the second base umpire who said a report would be filed. Larry Vanover was the cockbag behind the plate who ass-raped Bradley on balls and strikes and then tossed him.
According to the Trib the only contact between Bradley and Vanover was the bills of their caps and it's so brief you have to run the tape in slo-mo to even see it.
Knowing his desire to fuck the Cubs in any conceivable way I would guess Bud makes sure Bradley gets a few days off. Fucking douchebag.
As predicted... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4079417)
All this shows is that this umpiring crew is made up of a bunch of old men in Depends that can't handle anything resembling heat or criticism. I really hope bad, work-related, things happen to them.
I wouldn't suspend a single player for anything short of throwing a punch at an ump, until umps get suspended for fucking up calls as badly as that one...if I were commish. But I'm sure that half of the mouthbreathers in southern Missouri could do a better job than Selig.
Oh--and I hope Larussa eats a line drive into the dugout this season.
Quote from: butthead on April 18, 2009, 03:15:28 PM
He should just sit out a couple of games while he's still kinda hurt so he can rest up.
He's appealing in the hopes of getting a game knocked off. And he should. I just now finally saw the replay and I can't believe he got suspended at all.
Quote from: MAD on April 18, 2009, 06:42:49 PM
Quote from: butthead on April 18, 2009, 03:15:28 PM
He should just sit out a couple of games while he's still kinda hurt so he can rest up.
He's appealing in the hopes of getting a game knocked off. And he should. I just now finally saw the replay and I can't believe he got suspended at all.
Zero tolerance is a policy that often put in place when idiots are in charge, as it does not require them think.
If anyone thinks that a bill of a helmet touching a bill of a cap constitutes "physical contact," they should be subject to a zero-tolerance of them drawing another breath rule. There's clearly nothing living between the ears to begin with.
Quote from: MAD on April 18, 2009, 06:42:49 PM
Quote from: butthead on April 18, 2009, 03:15:28 PM
He should just sit out a couple of games while he's still kinda hurt so he can rest up.
He's appealing in the hopes of getting a game knocked off. And he should. I just now finally saw the replay and I can't believe he got suspended at all.
Well then he can wait till the next time he is kinda hurt and sit out one game.
Milton got two games for being Milton Bradley. Nobody else gets suspended for that.
And fuck Tony LaRussa and his team of steroid-fueled sideshow freaks with a rusty fucking chainsaw.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 19, 2009, 04:35:20 PM
Milton got two games for being Milton Bradley. Nobody else gets suspended for that.
Are you suggesting other ballplayers be suspended for being Milton Bradley, even when they clearly
aren't Milton Bradley?
Because
that would be unfair.
Quote from: Tank on April 19, 2009, 05:29:23 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 19, 2009, 04:35:20 PM
Milton got two games for being Milton Bradley. Nobody else gets suspended for that.
Are you suggesting other ballplayers be suspended for being Milton Bradley, even when they clearly aren't Milton Bradley?
Because that would be unfair.
Let me get back to you on that.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 18, 2009, 08:54:34 PM
If anyone thinks that a bill of a helmet touching a bill of a cap constitutes "physical contact," they should be subject to a zero-tolerance of them drawing another breath rule. There's clearly nothing living between the ears to begin with.
They should have suspended his helmet.
Also, so emphatically THIS:
Quote from: CubFaninHydeParkI wouldn't suspend a single player for anything short of throwing a punch at an ump, until umps get suspended for fucking up calls as badly as that one...if I were commish.
Where are the ramifications for Vanover creating the situation in the first place by being completely incompetent at his job?
Quote from: Kermit, B. on April 20, 2009, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 18, 2009, 08:54:34 PM
If anyone thinks that a bill of a helmet touching a bill of a cap constitutes "physical contact," they should be subject to a zero-tolerance of them drawing another breath rule. There's clearly nothing living between the ears to begin with.
They should have suspended his helmet.
Also, so emphatically THIS:
Quote from: CubFaninHydeParkI wouldn't suspend a single player for anything short of throwing a punch at an ump, until umps get suspended for fucking up calls as badly as that one...if I were commish.
Where are the ramifications for Vanover creating the situation in the first place by being completely incompetent at his job?
Also, not having the video available while at work, did Vanover step toward Bradley? That would invalidate everything.
Quote from: Fork on April 20, 2009, 11:15:17 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on April 20, 2009, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 18, 2009, 08:54:34 PM
If anyone thinks that a bill of a helmet touching a bill of a cap constitutes "physical contact," they should be subject to a zero-tolerance of them drawing another breath rule. There's clearly nothing living between the ears to begin with.
They should have suspended his helmet.
Also, so emphatically THIS:
Quote from: CubFaninHydeParkI wouldn't suspend a single player for anything short of throwing a punch at an ump, until umps get suspended for fucking up calls as badly as that one...if I were commish.
Where are the ramifications for Vanover creating the situation in the first place by being completely incompetent at his job?
Also, not having the video available while at work, did Vanover step toward Bradley? That would invalidate everything.
Would it? I've never heard that before.
And even if it would, Milt would still get suspended due to the fact he's already got two strikes against him:
1. He's Milton Bradley.
2. He plays for the Cubs.
Have I mentioned lately that I hate Cubs fans? And I know the Jockey (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-23-cubs-reds-chicago-apr23,0,569409.story) is just reporting the "controversial" news but I think he's laying it on a little thick with the DOOM.
QuoteThe Milton Bradley experience is turning sour quickly on the North Side, and the Cubs have to be concerned about the way their $30 million free agent is handling things.
In his first start at Wrigley Field since signing with the Cubs, Bradley failed to hustle on a ground ball Wednesday night and was booed by fans after going 0-for-4 with three strikeouts in a 3-0 loss to Cincinnati.
Bradley is hitting .043 (1-for-23) after tearing up Arizona with a .460 average in the Cactus League. He has become a virtual Sphinx, avoiding reporters before the game and failing to stick around to talk afterward, continuing the media boycott he began after suffering a mild groin strain on April 12 in Milwaukee.
Quote from: RV on April 23, 2009, 08:49:28 AM
Have I mentioned lately that I hate Cubs fans? And I know the Jockey (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-23-cubs-reds-chicago-apr23,0,569409.story) is just reporting the "controversial" news but I think he's laying it on a little thick with the DOOM.
QuoteThe Milton Bradley experience is turning sour quickly on the North Side, and the Cubs have to be concerned about the way their $30 million free agent is handling things.
In his first start at Wrigley Field since signing with the Cubs, Bradley failed to hustle on a ground ball Wednesday night and was booed by fans after going 0-for-4 with three strikeouts in a 3-0 loss to Cincinnati.
Bradley is hitting .043 (1-for-23) after tearing up Arizona with a .460 average in the Cactus League. He has become a virtual Sphinx, avoiding reporters before the game and failing to stick around to talk afterward, continuing the media boycott he began after suffering a mild groin strain on April 12 in Milwaukee.
I thought the booing was for the ump. Meh.
What major leaguer hasn't had a rough night or a turrble, jus turrble start to their year? Milton's 1 for 23. OH NOZ! TRAYDE FER MATT MERTAN!!!!11//
Seriously, though, I'm no more worried about Milton's struggles right now than I am with the sun rising tomorrow morning.
Quote from: powen01 on April 23, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: RV on April 23, 2009, 08:49:28 AM
Have I mentioned lately that I hate Cubs fans? And I know the Jockey (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-23-cubs-reds-chicago-apr23,0,569409.story) is just reporting the "controversial" news but I think he's laying it on a little thick with the DOOM.
QuoteThe Milton Bradley experience is turning sour quickly on the North Side, and the Cubs have to be concerned about the way their $30 million free agent is handling things.
In his first start at Wrigley Field since signing with the Cubs, Bradley failed to hustle on a ground ball Wednesday night and was booed by fans after going 0-for-4 with three strikeouts in a 3-0 loss to Cincinnati.
Bradley is hitting .043 (1-for-23) after tearing up Arizona with a .460 average in the Cactus League. He has become a virtual Sphinx, avoiding reporters before the game and failing to stick around to talk afterward, continuing the media boycott he began after suffering a mild groin strain on April 12 in Milwaukee.
I thought the booing was for the ump. Meh.
Why, was the ump black?
Quote from: CT III on April 23, 2009, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: powen01 on April 23, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: RV on April 23, 2009, 08:49:28 AM
Have I mentioned lately that I hate Cubs fans? And I know the Jockey (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-23-cubs-reds-chicago-apr23,0,569409.story) is just reporting the "controversial" news but I think he's laying it on a little thick with the DOOM.
QuoteThe Milton Bradley experience is turning sour quickly on the North Side, and the Cubs have to be concerned about the way their $30 million free agent is handling things.
In his first start at Wrigley Field since signing with the Cubs, Bradley failed to hustle on a ground ball Wednesday night and was booed by fans after going 0-for-4 with three strikeouts in a 3-0 loss to Cincinnati.
Bradley is hitting .043 (1-for-23) after tearing up Arizona with a .460 average in the Cactus League. He has become a virtual Sphinx, avoiding reporters before the game and failing to stick around to talk afterward, continuing the media boycott he began after suffering a mild groin strain on April 12 in Milwaukee.
I thought the booing was for the ump. Meh.
Why, was the ump black?
How should I know? It was night.
Quote from: powen01 on April 23, 2009, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: CT III on April 23, 2009, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: powen01 on April 23, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: RV on April 23, 2009, 08:49:28 AM
Have I mentioned lately that I hate Cubs fans? And I know the Jockey (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-23-cubs-reds-chicago-apr23,0,569409.story) is just reporting the "controversial" news but I think he's laying it on a little thick with the DOOM.
QuoteThe Milton Bradley experience is turning sour quickly on the North Side, and the Cubs have to be concerned about the way their $30 million free agent is handling things.
In his first start at Wrigley Field since signing with the Cubs, Bradley failed to hustle on a ground ball Wednesday night and was booed by fans after going 0-for-4 with three strikeouts in a 3-0 loss to Cincinnati.
Bradley is hitting .043 (1-for-23) after tearing up Arizona with a .460 average in the Cactus League. He has become a virtual Sphinx, avoiding reporters before the game and failing to stick around to talk afterward, continuing the media boycott he began after suffering a mild groin strain on April 12 in Milwaukee.
I thought the booing was for the ump. Meh.
Why, was the ump black?
How should I know? It was night.
Then it's not likely. They were made to handle the heat during day games.
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
And you're thinking he won't be hurt or "day-to-day" again in the next month?
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Honestly? It was pretty fucking stupid of Piniella to start him last night. It was still cold as fuck, that dude with hydrocephalitis has been hitting the ball well in his absence, and it's going to be warming up soon enough. Seriously, Lou couldn't wait one more fucking day to start him?
Quote from: MAD on April 23, 2009, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Honestly? It was pretty fucking stupid of Piniella to start him last night. It was still cold as fuck, that dude with hydrocephalitis has been hitting the ball well in his absence, and it's going to be warming up soon enough. Seriously, Lou couldn't wait one more fucking day to start him?
I want to hear your non-honest answer, personally.
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2009, 01:59:19 PM
Quote from: MAD on April 23, 2009, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Honestly? It was pretty fucking stupid of Piniella to start him last night. It was still cold as fuck, that dude with hydrocephalitis has been hitting the ball well in his absence, and it's going to be warming up soon enough. Seriously, Lou couldn't wait one more fucking day to start him?
I want to hear your non-honest answer, personally.
Dishonestly? Hoffpauer should start ahead of Bradley, even if Bradley is healthy.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 23, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
But he's
not playing.
Point is: why not take your two game suspension if you're already sitting out a couple games anyways?
Quote from: Tank on April 23, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 23, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
But he's not playing.
Point is: why not take your two game suspension if you're already sitting out a couple games anyways?
Because when you appeal the suspension usually gets shortened.
Plus, in this case, it's worth fighting it since the reason for the suspension is utter fucking horseshit of the highest order to begin with. The MLBPA should be raising hell about it.
Quote from: Tank on April 23, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 23, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
But he's not playing.
Point is: why not take your two game suspension if you're already sitting out a couple games anyways?
Pride (In the Name of Love).
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 23, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 23, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 23, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
But he's not playing.
Point is: why not take your two game suspension if you're already sitting out a couple games anyways?
Because when you appeal the suspension usually gets shortened.
Plus, in this case, it's worth fighting it since the reason for the suspension is utter fucking horseshit of the highest order to begin with. The MLBPA should be raising hell about it.
Who cares if it is horseshit or not? And who cares if it is shortened? He could use two days off anyway. They probably should have put him on the DL right away.
Quote from: butthead on April 23, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 23, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 23, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 23, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
But he's not playing.
Point is: why not take your two game suspension if you're already sitting out a couple games anyways?
Because when you appeal the suspension usually gets shortened.
Plus, in this case, it's worth fighting it since the reason for the suspension is utter fucking horseshit of the highest order to begin with. The MLBPA should be raising hell about it.
Who cares if it is horseshit or not? And who cares if it is shortened? He could use two days off anyway. They probably should have put him on the DL right away.
Well, I would imagine Milt cares. And I would guess the Cubs do too. They need to make the point that Bradley shouldn't get suspended for something another player would not.
Any other player makes bill-to-bill contact in that situation and the crew doesn't even file a report.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 23, 2009, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: butthead on April 23, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 23, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 23, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 23, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
But he's not playing.
Point is: why not take your two game suspension if you're already sitting out a couple games anyways?
Because when you appeal the suspension usually gets shortened.
Plus, in this case, it's worth fighting it since the reason for the suspension is utter fucking horseshit of the highest order to begin with. The MLBPA should be raising hell about it.
Who cares if it is horseshit or not? And who cares if it is shortened? He could use two days off anyway. They probably should have put him on the DL right away.
Well, I would imagine Milt cares. And I would guess the Cubs do too. They need to make the point that Bradley shouldn't get suspended for something another player would not.
Any other player makes bill-to-bill contact in that situation and the crew doesn't even file a report.
I'm sure Milt cares. Maybe you're right, but I doubt it will make a difference with his reputation.
Quote from: butthead on April 23, 2009, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 23, 2009, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: butthead on April 23, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 23, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 23, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 23, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
But he's not playing.
Point is: why not take your two game suspension if you're already sitting out a couple games anyways?
Because when you appeal the suspension usually gets shortened.
Plus, in this case, it's worth fighting it since the reason for the suspension is utter fucking horseshit of the highest order to begin with. The MLBPA should be raising hell about it.
Who cares if it is horseshit or not? And who cares if it is shortened? He could use two days off anyway. They probably should have put him on the DL right away.
Well, I would imagine Milt cares. And I would guess the Cubs do too. They need to make the point that Bradley shouldn't get suspended for something another player would not.
Any other player makes bill-to-bill contact in that situation and the crew doesn't even file a report.
I'm sure Milt cares. Maybe you're right, but I doubt it will make a difference with his reputation.
Not for nothing, but it also costs him two games' pay.
Quote from: Oleg on April 23, 2009, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: butthead on April 23, 2009, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 23, 2009, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: butthead on April 23, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on April 23, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 23, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on April 23, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 23, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
I have a question for you octomoms. Since this cat is hurt again and "day-to-day", why is he not just serving his suspension? I'm puzzled by this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-bradley&prov=ap&type=lgns
Because: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2962)
If the player appeals, he can still play until there is a decision, right?
But he's not playing.
Point is: why not take your two game suspension if you're already sitting out a couple games anyways?
Because when you appeal the suspension usually gets shortened.
Plus, in this case, it's worth fighting it since the reason for the suspension is utter fucking horseshit of the highest order to begin with. The MLBPA should be raising hell about it.
Who cares if it is horseshit or not? And who cares if it is shortened? He could use two days off anyway. They probably should have put him on the DL right away.
Well, I would imagine Milt cares. And I would guess the Cubs do too. They need to make the point that Bradley shouldn't get suspended for something another player would not.
Any other player makes bill-to-bill contact in that situation and the crew doesn't even file a report.
I'm sure Milt cares. Maybe you're right, but I doubt it will make a difference with his reputation.
Not for nothing, but it also costs him two games' pay.
Big surprise...Oleg sides with the union.
CD <3 MB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4095214)
QuoteCHICAGO -- After playing one game at far less than full speed, Chicago Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley said Thursday he's not close to returning from a lingering groin injury.
"I want to say I am, but I'm not," Bradley told Cubs.com.
Bradley has not spoken to the media in at least a week. He spoke to Cubs.com because it is affiliated with the Cubs' organization, the Web site said.
Speaking of the fourth estate, the at-times-volatile Bradley accused Chicago's media of trying to make him "snap," a remark that comes on the heels of his ejection for arguing a called third strike during his April 16 pinch-hitting appearance, and the subsequent two-game suspension for making contact with umpire Larry Vanover.
"I'm just not into negativity," he said. "I can see already I'm going to be that guy that since nothing else is going on in here, 'We're going to harp on Bradley all year and see if we can get him to snap.' I'm not going to go for it. You can't get a good story if I don't talk to [the media]. You'll make something up, like you always do."
"If I talk to you, you're going to make something up, and if I don't talk to you, you're going to make something up. So just go ahead and make something up and leave me out of it."
Quote from: ChuckD on April 25, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
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QuoteCHICAGO -- After playing one game at far less than full speed, Chicago Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley said Thursday he's not close to returning from a lingering groin injury.
"I want to say I am, but I'm not," Bradley told Cubs.com.
Bradley has not spoken to the media in at least a week. He spoke to Cubs.com because it is affiliated with the Cubs' organization, the Web site said.
Speaking of the fourth estate, the at-times-volatile Bradley accused Chicago's media of trying to make him "snap," a remark that comes on the heels of his ejection for arguing a called third strike during his April 16 pinch-hitting appearance, and the subsequent two-game suspension for making contact with umpire Larry Vanover.
"I'm just not into negativity," he said. "I can see already I'm going to be that guy that since nothing else is going on in here, 'We're going to harp on Bradley all year and see if we can get him to snap.' I'm not going to go for it. You can't get a good story if I don't talk to [the media]. You'll make something up, like you always do."
"If I talk to you, you're going to make something up, and if I don't talk to you, you're going to make something up. So just go ahead and make something up and leave me out of it."
I hope you're not loving him ironically. Our love is true.
Quote from: Slakee on April 25, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 25, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
CD <3 MB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4095214)
QuoteCHICAGO -- After playing one game at far less than full speed, Chicago Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley said Thursday he's not close to returning from a lingering groin injury.
"I want to say I am, but I'm not," Bradley told Cubs.com.
Bradley has not spoken to the media in at least a week. He spoke to Cubs.com because it is affiliated with the Cubs' organization, the Web site said.
Speaking of the fourth estate, the at-times-volatile Bradley accused Chicago's media of trying to make him "snap," a remark that comes on the heels of his ejection for arguing a called third strike during his April 16 pinch-hitting appearance, and the subsequent two-game suspension for making contact with umpire Larry Vanover.
"I'm just not into negativity," he said. "I can see already I'm going to be that guy that since nothing else is going on in here, 'We're going to harp on Bradley all year and see if we can get him to snap.' I'm not going to go for it. You can't get a good story if I don't talk to [the media]. You'll make something up, like you always do."
"If I talk to you, you're going to make something up, and if I don't talk to you, you're going to make something up. So just go ahead and make something up and leave me out of it."
I hope you're not loving him ironically. Our love is true.
Can we make this a group thing?
Or would that be too gay?
Quote from: Tank on April 25, 2009, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 25, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 25, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
CD <3 MB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4095214)
QuoteCHICAGO -- After playing one game at far less than full speed, Chicago Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley said Thursday he's not close to returning from a lingering groin injury.
"I want to say I am, but I'm not," Bradley told Cubs.com.
Bradley has not spoken to the media in at least a week. He spoke to Cubs.com because it is affiliated with the Cubs' organization, the Web site said.
Speaking of the fourth estate, the at-times-volatile Bradley accused Chicago's media of trying to make him "snap," a remark that comes on the heels of his ejection for arguing a called third strike during his April 16 pinch-hitting appearance, and the subsequent two-game suspension for making contact with umpire Larry Vanover.
"I'm just not into negativity," he said. "I can see already I'm going to be that guy that since nothing else is going on in here, 'We're going to harp on Bradley all year and see if we can get him to snap.' I'm not going to go for it. You can't get a good story if I don't talk to [the media]. You'll make something up, like you always do."
"If I talk to you, you're going to make something up, and if I don't talk to you, you're going to make something up. So just go ahead and make something up and leave me out of it."
I hope you're not loving him ironically. Our love is true.
Can we make this a group thing?
Or would that be too gay?
Yes.
No.
Quote from: Tank on April 25, 2009, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 25, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 25, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
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QuoteCHICAGO -- After playing one game at far less than full speed, Chicago Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley said Thursday he's not close to returning from a lingering groin injury.
"I want to say I am, but I'm not," Bradley told Cubs.com.
Bradley has not spoken to the media in at least a week. He spoke to Cubs.com because it is affiliated with the Cubs' organization, the Web site said.
Speaking of the fourth estate, the at-times-volatile Bradley accused Chicago's media of trying to make him "snap," a remark that comes on the heels of his ejection for arguing a called third strike during his April 16 pinch-hitting appearance, and the subsequent two-game suspension for making contact with umpire Larry Vanover.
"I'm just not into negativity," he said. "I can see already I'm going to be that guy that since nothing else is going on in here, 'We're going to harp on Bradley all year and see if we can get him to snap.' I'm not going to go for it. You can't get a good story if I don't talk to [the media]. You'll make something up, like you always do."
"If I talk to you, you're going to make something up, and if I don't talk to you, you're going to make something up. So just go ahead and make something up and leave me out of it."
I hope you're not loving him ironically. Our love is true.
Can we make this a group thing?
Or would that be too gay?
Miltkakke?
Quote from: Kermit, B. on April 25, 2009, 05:52:29 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 25, 2009, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 25, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 25, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
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QuoteCHICAGO -- After playing one game at far less than full speed, Chicago Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley said Thursday he's not close to returning from a lingering groin injury.
"I want to say I am, but I'm not," Bradley told Cubs.com.
Bradley has not spoken to the media in at least a week. He spoke to Cubs.com because it is affiliated with the Cubs' organization, the Web site said.
Speaking of the fourth estate, the at-times-volatile Bradley accused Chicago's media of trying to make him "snap," a remark that comes on the heels of his ejection for arguing a called third strike during his April 16 pinch-hitting appearance, and the subsequent two-game suspension for making contact with umpire Larry Vanover.
"I'm just not into negativity," he said. "I can see already I'm going to be that guy that since nothing else is going on in here, 'We're going to harp on Bradley all year and see if we can get him to snap.' I'm not going to go for it. You can't get a good story if I don't talk to [the media]. You'll make something up, like you always do."
"If I talk to you, you're going to make something up, and if I don't talk to you, you're going to make something up. So just go ahead and make something up and leave me out of it."
I hope you're not loving him ironically. Our love is true.
Can we make this a group thing?
Or would that be too gay?
Miltkakke?
or (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=82136305517&ref=nf)...
Is this the thread where Bradley can do no wrong?
Let me know when the thread "Bradley is a piece of shit why did we spend 30 million on him to sit on the bench?"
How is that Bobby Abreu guy working out? What, he is hitting .375? Holy fuck thats like 27 times the hits Bradley has.
Fuck Bradley, his paper mache body and victim mentality. And who knew that this Bradley injury disease was contagious. Thank god we only have 3 more years of this bullshit.
Quote from: MikeC on April 27, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
Is this the thread where Bradley can do no wrong?
Let me know when the thread "Bradley is a piece of shit why did we spend 30 million on him to sit on the bench?"
How is that Bobby Abreu guy working out? What, he is hitting .375? Holy fuck thats like 27 times the hits Bradley has.
Fuck Bradley, his paper mache body and victim mentality. And who knew that this Bradley injury disease was contagious. Thank god we only have 3 more years of this bullshit.
I can't possibly tell you how much I hate that I agree with you.
Quote from: MikeC on April 27, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
Thank god we only have 3 more years of this bullshit.
It's two if he spends 75 days on the DL. It would be down to 59 if Hendry had any testicles.
Quote from: MikeC on April 27, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
Is this the thread where Bradley can do no wrong?
Let me know when the thread "Bradley is a piece of shit why did we spend 30 million on him to sit on the bench?"
How is that Bobby Abreu guy working out? What, he is hitting .375? Holy fuck thats like 27 times the hits Bradley has.
Fuck Bradley, his paper mache body and victim mentality. And who knew that this Bradley injury disease was contagious. Thank god we only have 3 more years of this bullshit.
ALL ABOARD ZEE DEWMWAGGONN!!!111///l.mlkasj
Quote from: MikeC on April 27, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
Fuck Bradley, his paper mache body and victim mentality.
Seriously?
Milton just doesn't "get it"?
EXCELLENT!
Can you believe Milton only got one hit this entire season? My god, he's awful. I hope he does better next season.
Quote from: Slakee on April 27, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
Can you believe Milton only got one hit this entire season? My god, he's awful. I hope he does better next season.
Hank White has three times as many hits as Milton and Ronny Cedeno has the same number of homers and RBIs.
The definition of "Oh, how humiliating."
Yeah but Milt hasn't been caught stealing on walk yet.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 27, 2009, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 27, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
Can you believe Milton only got one hit this entire season? My god, he's awful. I hope he does better next season.
Hank White has three times as many hits as Milton and Ronny Cedeno has the same number of homers and RBIs.
The definition of "Oh, how humiliating."
It's actually the definition of small sample size.
Quote from: Slakee on April 27, 2009, 03:18:06 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 27, 2009, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: Slakee on April 27, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
Can you believe Milton only got one hit this entire season? My god, he's awful. I hope he does better next season.
Hank White has three times as many hits as Milton and Ronny Cedeno has the same number of homers and RBIs.
The definition of "Oh, how humiliating."
It's actually the definition of small sample size.
I thought that was Dusty's brain.
Boom, bitch.
Quote from: powen01 on May 08, 2009, 08:21:15 PM
Boom, bitch.
I predict 78 more of those this season. From Milton. Up your asses.
FYP!!
Jebus, he whipped that ball like a slave. Too much?
Jebus, that shit got up there fast that it brought rain.
Quote from: MAD on May 13, 2009, 08:28:02 AM
Quote from: RV on May 12, 2009, 08:48:16 PM
FYP!!
Can someone eh-splain' this to me?
I think we'll give you a chance to think about it for a minute or two first.
Quote from: MAD on May 13, 2009, 08:28:02 AM
Quote from: RV on May 12, 2009, 08:48:16 PM
FYP!!
Can someone eh-splain' this to me?
PenBro "kind of hates" Milton Bradley and doesn't think the Cubs should have signed him.
Quote from: RV on May 13, 2009, 08:41:48 AM
Quote from: MAD on May 13, 2009, 08:28:02 AM
Quote from: RV on May 12, 2009, 08:48:16 PM
FYP!!
Can someone eh-splain' this to me?
PenBro "kind of hates" Milton Bradley and doesn't think the Cubs should have signed him Negroes.
What a new and exciting topic!
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1571283,CST-SPT-cub13.article
Quote from: Slakee on May 13, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
What a new and exciting topic!
http://www.suntimes.com/
"Upper deck" in the center field bleachers? Who knew?
"...the home run he hit toward the upper deck in center field to help the Cubs beat Jake Peavy and the San Diego Padres 6-2 on Tuesday."
Quote from: Slakee on May 13, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
What a new and exciting topic!
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1571283,CST-SPT-cub13.article
Gordo can eat the maggots off a corpse's rotting nutsack.
Quote from: Fork on May 13, 2009, 10:08:50 AM
Quote from: Slakee on May 13, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
What a new and exciting topic!
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1571283,CST-SPT-cub13.article
Gordo can eat the maggots off a corpse's rotting nutsack.
Well, in fairness, anybody COULD do that.
Quote from: CBStew on May 13, 2009, 09:27:24 AM
Quote from: Slakee on May 13, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
What a new and exciting topic!
http://www.suntimes.com/
"Upper deck" in the center field bleachers? Who knew?
"...the home run he hit toward the upper deck in center field to help the Cubs beat Jake Peavy and the San Diego Padres 6-2 on Tuesday."
I know it is just me, but look at how Sullivan described the bleachers in the Trib:
Cubs' Bradley turns jeers to cheers with homer in win
By Paul Sullivan | Tribune reporter
May 13, 2009
After hitting a monster shot that nearly landed in the upper portion of the center-field bleachers Tuesday night at Wrigley Field,
And the winner is... Bruce Miles of the Daily Herald:
"The ball landed just below the second tier of bleachers, some 440 feet from home plate"
Quote from: TDubbs on May 13, 2009, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 13, 2009, 10:08:50 AM
Quote from: Slakee on May 13, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
What a new and exciting topic!
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1571283,CST-SPT-cub13.article
Gordo can eat the maggots off a corpse's rotting nutsack.
Well, in fairness, anybody COULD do that.
I didn't say he could, I said he can. He has my permission, as do you.
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
As long as it's legal and consensual.
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
All of which were accomplished when no one was looking.
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbsYou're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2
You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Intrepid Reader: ThreeDubbsYou are all losers who have no lives and can't get laid. Now, if you'll excuse me, my shows are on.
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Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2
You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Intrepid Reader: ThreeDubbs
You are all losers who have no lives and can't get laid. Now, if you'll excuse me, my shows are on.
Intrepid Reader: MeUgh. Do I have to do your schticks' too? Can we just assume I said something kind of mean about you and be done with it? thanks.
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Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2
You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Intrepid Reader: ThreeDubbs
You are all losers who have no lives and can't get laid. Now, if you'll excuse me, my shows are on.
Intrepid Reader: Me
Ugh. Do I have to do your schticks' too? Can we just assume I said something kind of mean about you and be done with it? thanks.
Don't flatter yourself with having the ability to hurt feelings, at least mine. Just before you bitch people out about their acts that you happen to find tiresome, realize you're just not any better.
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2009, 02:15:58 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on May 14, 2009, 02:03:27 PM
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Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2
You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Intrepid Reader: ThreeDubbs
You are all losers who have no lives and can't get laid. Now, if you'll excuse me, my shows are on.
Intrepid Reader: Me
Ugh. Do I have to do your schticks' too? Can we just assume I said something kind of mean about you and be done with it? thanks.
Don't flatter yourself with having the ability to hurt feelings, at least mine. Just before you bitch people out about their acts that you happen to find tiresome, realize you're just not any better.
Wait, all this time I thought it really was just a shtick.
Quote from: flannj on May 14, 2009, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2009, 02:15:58 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on May 14, 2009, 02:03:27 PM
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Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2
You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Intrepid Reader: ThreeDubbs
You are all losers who have no lives and can't get laid. Now, if you'll excuse me, my shows are on.
Intrepid Reader: Me
Ugh. Do I have to do your schticks' too? Can we just assume I said something kind of mean about you and be done with it? thanks.
Don't flatter yourself with having the ability to hurt feelings, at least mine. Just before you bitch people out about their acts that you happen to find tiresome, realize you're just not any better.
Wait, all this time I thought it really was just a shtick.
Sadly, no.
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2009, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 14, 2009, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2009, 02:15:58 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on May 14, 2009, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2009, 12:39:19 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2
You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Intrepid Reader: ThreeDubbs
You are all losers who have no lives and can't get laid. Now, if you'll excuse me, my shows are on.
Intrepid Reader: Me
Ugh. Do I have to do your schticks' too? Can we just assume I said something kind of mean about you and be done with it? thanks.
Don't flatter yourself with having the ability to hurt feelings, at least mine. Just before you bitch people out about their acts that you happen to find tiresome, realize you're just not any better.
Wait, all this time I thought it really was just a shtick.
Sadly, no.
So are you saying that people actually take TDubbs seriously? About anything?
Wow, that's fucked up.
But he is gay though, right?
Quote from: flannj on May 14, 2009, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2009, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 14, 2009, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2009, 02:15:58 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on May 14, 2009, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2009, 12:39:19 PM
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Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2
You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Intrepid Reader: ThreeDubbs
You are all losers who have no lives and can't get laid. Now, if you'll excuse me, my shows are on.
Intrepid Reader: Me
Ugh. Do I have to do your schticks' too? Can we just assume I said something kind of mean about you and be done with it? thanks.
Don't flatter yourself with having the ability to hurt feelings, at least mine. Just before you bitch people out about their acts that you happen to find tiresome, realize you're just not any better.
Wait, all this time I thought it really was just a shtick.
Sadly, no.
So are you saying that people actually take TDubbs seriously? About anything?
Wow, that's fucked up.
But he is gay though, right?
I don't think anyone does.
I don't think he's gay. But it's not for lack of effort.
Quote from: flannj on May 14, 2009, 02:41:47 PM
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Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Adam Eaton Pussy on May 13, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Is it permissable to splooge for a bunt single?
Juan Pierre had over 200 hits.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs
You're a moron. Stop being a dipshit.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbs Schtick2
You couldn't be more wrong if you were playing the wrong video game wearing the wrong pants that your faggotass mom knitted you at the wrong factory.
Intrepid Reader: ThreeDubbs
You are all losers who have no lives and can't get laid. Now, if you'll excuse me, my shows are on.
Intrepid Reader: Me
Ugh. Do I have to do your schticks' too? Can we just assume I said something kind of mean about you and be done with it? thanks.
Don't flatter yourself with having the ability to hurt feelings, at least mine. Just before you bitch people out about their acts that you happen to find tiresome, realize you're just not any better.
Wait, all this time I thought it really was just a shtick.
Sadly, no.
So are you saying that people actually take TDubbs seriously? About anything?
Wow, that's fucked up.
But he is gay though, right?
Mike Fontenot takes TDubbs seriously.
Wait...wrong thread.
Fuck Larry Vannover for being a bigger pussy than Peyton Manning and MLB for backing up that blind, skirt-wearing gutless piece of shit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 14, 2009, 10:03:02 PM
Fuck Larry Vannover for being a bigger pussy than Peyton Manning and MLB for backing up that blind, skirt-wearing gutless piece of shit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns)
First of all, fuck Peyton Manning and his whole fucking family. Second, why can't Milton understand that he built his own reputation and until he goes a whole season without losing his shit at an umpire, they're going to assume that he hasn't learned not to do that. I say you shouldn't do that because they hold grudges that could hurt you with suspensions at least and at worst with shitty calls in actual games. Leave the cunts alone and let Lou do his damn job. That said, I love Milton like a brother and I'm going to protest this suspension by setting something on fire. Probably a cop car or a Sox fan. Or a cop car with a Sox fan in it.... oh, that's good.
Quote from: ~Apex on May 15, 2009, 07:26:28 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 14, 2009, 10:03:02 PM
Fuck Larry Vannover for being a bigger pussy than Peyton Manning and MLB for backing up that blind, skirt-wearing gutless piece of shit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns)
First of all, fuck Peyton Manning and his whole fucking family. Second, why can't Milton understand that he built his own reputation and until he goes a whole season without losing his shit at an umpire, they're going to assume that he hasn't learned not to do that. I say you shouldn't do that because they hold grudges that could hurt you with suspensions at least and at worst with shitty calls in actual games. Leave the cunts alone and let Lou do his damn job. That said, I love Milton like a brother and I'm going to protest this suspension by setting something on fire. Probably a cop car or a Sox fan. Or a cop car with a Sox fan in it.... oh, that's good.
Racist.
Quote from: morpheus on May 15, 2009, 08:08:30 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on May 15, 2009, 07:26:28 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 14, 2009, 10:03:02 PM
Fuck Larry Vannover for being a bigger pussy than Peyton Manning and MLB for backing up that blind, skirt-wearing gutless piece of shit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns)
First of all, fuck Peyton Manning and his whole fucking family. Second, why can't Milton understand that he built his own reputation and until he goes a whole season without losing his shit at an umpire, they're going to assume that he hasn't learned not to do that. I say you shouldn't do that because they hold grudges that could hurt you with suspensions at least and at worst with shitty calls in actual games. Leave the cunts alone and let Lou do his damn job. That said, I love Milton like a brother and I'm going to protest this suspension by setting something on fire. Probably a cop car or a Sox fan. Or a cop car with a Sox fan in it.... oh, that's good.
Racist.
Borderline at best. It's probably cool since Apex is black.
Quote from: ~Apex on May 15, 2009, 07:26:28 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 14, 2009, 10:03:02 PM
Fuck Larry Vannover for being a bigger pussy than Peyton Manning and MLB for backing up that blind, skirt-wearing gutless piece of shit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgDblFviq8yw7RLVTGe8_js5nYcB?slug=ap-cubs-bradleysuspension&prov=ap&type=lgns)
That said, I love Milton like a brother and I'm going to protest this suspension by setting something on fire. Probably a cop car or a Sox fan. Or a cop car with a Sox fan in it.... oh, that's good.
Come down my way and just look for a cop making an arrest. The cop will probably be a Sox fan too.
You'd make Thoreau proud.
I ALMOST made a Randy Wells sploogefest thread, but I'm just going to splooge a little for him in this thread instead.
Or you could just use the one we already have.
.184
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on May 22, 2009, 11:49:31 PM
.184
Intrepid Reader: The GeniusIs that a significant number?
Hey masturbate some more to the guy hittting .182 almost two months into the season.
It's almost like after he signed his 30 million dollar deal he just doesn't give fuck any more.
Maybe by the all-star break he can lift it above .200.
Quote from: MikeC on May 23, 2009, 12:47:47 PM
Hey masturbate some more to the guy hittting .182 almost two months into the season.
It's almost like after he signed his 30 million dollar deal he just doesn't give fuck any more.
Maybe by the all-star break he can lift it above .200.
The season started April 6th and Milt has missed a few weeks. It seems his numbers are based on a sample size that reflects one month, not two.
Quote from: MikeC on May 23, 2009, 12:47:47 PM
Hey masturbate some more to the guy hittting .182 almost two months into the season.
It's almost like after he signed his 30 million dollar deal he just doesn't give fuck any more.
Maybe by the all-star break he can lift it above .200.
Really? I know he has struggled so far, but I just don't see the whole "he doesn't give a fuck".
Quote from: MikeC on May 23, 2009, 12:47:47 PM
Hey masturbate some more to the guy hittting .182 almost two months into the season.
It's almost like after he signed his 30 million dollar deal he just doesn't give fuck any more.
Maybe by the all-star break he can lift it above .200.
Now I
know I'm right.
Quote from: MikeC on May 23, 2009, 12:47:47 PM
Hey masturbate some more to the guy hittting .182 almost two months into the season.
It's almost like after he signed his 30 million dollar deal he just doesn't give fuck any more.
Maybe by the all-star break he can lift it above .200.
It's oddly heartening to know that I still hate the piss out of you even when you actually talk about baseball.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4245 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4245)
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3504 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3504)
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on May 24, 2009, 06:59:57 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4245 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4245)
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3504 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3504)
Ibanez has 17 HRs? Jeebus.
Pen, you might.... just might be getting another hater on board.
Hey, but Milt is up to .188 and he hasn't been ejected or hurt in a couple of weeks...
I'm sure he can get over the Mendoza Line before the All-Star Break.
Nice fucking work Jim. Maybe Creighton will take you back.
What a fucking morgan.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4204044
Quote from: TDubbs on May 25, 2009, 10:47:37 AM
What a fucking morgan.
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HOLD THE BLACK MAN DOWN!
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on May 24, 2009, 06:59:57 PM
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What's your point? I know, I know. Your point is that Ibanez is having a much better year than Milton Bradley. And that Hendry, using his magical Hindsight Algorithm, should have signed Ibanez because it was so obvious to everyone Raul Ibanez would hit 17 home runs by the third week of May.
But what in Ibanez's history suggested it was a good idea to sign him? He's going to be 37 this year, he makes Adam Dunn look good on defense and he's been stuck as a 820-ish OPS player for years. All reasonable thought would have indicated that's a bad signing. And sometimes, weird things happen like mediocre 37-year-old corner outfielders get really hot for two months and crush the ball. You're crazy if you think he'll keep up his 1.151 OPS pace.
Actually, it's pretty clear that you're crazy, regardless of your belief in the preceding statement.
Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2009, 01:26:13 PM
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What's your point? I know, I know. Your point is that Ibanez is having a much better year than Milton Bradley. And that Hendry, using his magical Hindsight Algorithm, should have signed Ibanez because it was so obvious to everyone Raul Ibanez would hit 17 home runs by the third week of May.
But what in Ibanez's history suggested it was a good idea to sign him? He's going to be 37 this year, he makes Adam Dunn look good on defense and he's been stuck as a 820-ish OPS player for years. All reasonable thought would have indicated that's a bad signing. And sometimes, weird things happen like mediocre 37-year-old corner outfielders get really hot for two months and crush the ball. You're crazy if you think he'll keep up his 1.151 OPS pace.
Actually, it's pretty clear that you're crazy, regardless of your belief in the preceding statement.
Playing in a bandbox like Philly doesn't hurt either. Fuck Hendry for not signing Bradley and having him hit there instead of Wrigley in April and May where the wind blows in most of the time. But then again, I'm sure Ibanez could cut through that shit storm and rain splooge onto the the bleacher denizens for two months straight.
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What's your point? I know, I know. Your point is that Ibanez is having a much better year than Milton Bradley. And that Hendry, using his magical Hindsight Algorithm, should have signed Ibanez because it was so obvious to everyone Raul Ibanez would hit 17 home runs by the third week of May.
But what in Ibanez's history suggested it was a good idea to sign him? He's going to be 37 this year, he makes Adam Dunn look good on defense and he's been stuck as a 820-ish OPS player for years. All reasonable thought would have indicated that's a bad signing. And sometimes, weird things happen like mediocre 37-year-old corner outfielders get really hot for two months and crush the ball. You're crazy if you think he'll keep up his 1.151 OPS pace.
Actually, it's pretty clear that you're crazy, regardless of your belief in the preceding statement.
What in Bradley's history indicates he's worth a shit for a full season unless he spends most of it as a DH?
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on May 25, 2009, 06:10:56 PM
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What's your point? I know, I know. Your point is that Ibanez is having a much better year than Milton Bradley. And that Hendry, using his magical Hindsight Algorithm, should have signed Ibanez because it was so obvious to everyone Raul Ibanez would hit 17 home runs by the third week of May.
But what in Ibanez's history suggested it was a good idea to sign him? He's going to be 37 this year, he makes Adam Dunn look good on defense and he's been stuck as a 820-ish OPS player for years. All reasonable thought would have indicated that's a bad signing. And sometimes, weird things happen like mediocre 37-year-old corner outfielders get really hot for two months and crush the ball. You're crazy if you think he'll keep up his 1.151 OPS pace.
Actually, it's pretty clear that you're crazy, regardless of your belief in the preceding statement.
What in Bradley's history indicates he's worth a shit for a full season unless he spends most of it as a DH?
What in your recent history indicates that anybody gives a shit what you think about shit?
Quote from: ~Apex on May 25, 2009, 06:50:32 PM
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What's your point? I know, I know. Your point is that Ibanez is having a much better year than Milton Bradley. And that Hendry, using his magical Hindsight Algorithm, should have signed Ibanez because it was so obvious to everyone Raul Ibanez would hit 17 home runs by the third week of May.
But what in Ibanez's history suggested it was a good idea to sign him? He's going to be 37 this year, he makes Adam Dunn look good on defense and he's been stuck as a 820-ish OPS player for years. All reasonable thought would have indicated that's a bad signing. And sometimes, weird things happen like mediocre 37-year-old corner outfielders get really hot for two months and crush the ball. You're crazy if you think he'll keep up his 1.151 OPS pace.
Actually, it's pretty clear that you're crazy, regardless of your belief in the preceding statement.
What in Bradley's history indicates he's worth a shit for a full season unless he spends most of it as a DH?
What in your recent history indicates that anybody gives a shit what you think about shit?
Somebody brought the weak shit.
It'd be nice if you'd take Hendry's cock out of your mouth long enough to admit every move he made this offseason made the ballclub worse instead of better.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on May 25, 2009, 07:30:00 PM
It'd be nice if you'd take Hendry's cock out of your mouth long enough to admit every move he made this offseason made the ballclub worse instead of better.
You know, I don't really disagree with all that many of the things you say. But the way you say them is unfunny and lacks creativity. We all bang on the drum of Cubs suckiness but there's a nuance to it that can sometimes produce laughter on days like these when we desperately need it. You don't get it. You don't care and consequently, you have no friends here. Nobody can stop you from bringing your unique brand of retarded to this table, but as with cole slaw at a tits-out fried chicken feast, I'll pass on you. Because you look, smell and have the same constitution as vomit.
(Removes Hendry's wang from mouth long enough to say,) "How'd you like that 2-run double, asshole?" Re-inserts.
About Fucking Time.
About Fucking Time.
Suck it, Ibanez.
Quote from: LoneStarCubFan on May 25, 2009, 08:21:34 PM
About Fucking Time.
I hope you get AIDS on your tonsils from sucking DeRosa's meat.
Intrepid Reader: Milton Bradley
Did one of you cracker ass crackers say something? BOOM BITCH. <Fist bumps Apexxx>
Oh good, it's up to the bullpen the rest of the way. I feel so much better.
The Cubs hitters can only hit mediocre pitching.
Quote from: EVILteddie on May 25, 2009, 08:53:15 PM
The Cubs hitters can only hit mediocre pitching.
Sometimes.
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What's your point? I know, I know. Your point is that Ibanez is having a much better year than Milton Bradley. And that Hendry, using his magical Hindsight Algorithm, should have signed Ibanez because it was so obvious to everyone Raul Ibanez would hit 17 home runs by the third week of May.
But what in Ibanez's history suggested it was a good idea to sign him? He's going to be 37 this year, he makes Adam Dunn look good on defense and he's been stuck as a 820-ish OPS player for years. All reasonable thought would have indicated that's a bad signing. And sometimes, weird things happen like mediocre 37-year-old corner outfielders get really hot for two months and crush the ball. You're crazy if you think he'll keep up his 1.151 OPS pace.
Actually, it's pretty clear that you're crazy, regardless of your belief in the preceding statement.
What in Bradley's history indicates he's worth a shit for a full season unless he spends most of it as a DH?
What does that have to do with Raul Ibanez?
Bump for this:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=bradlmi01&t=b&year=2009&share=0.92#860-869-sum:batting_gamelogs
Over his 10 game hitting streak: .389/.450/.950. I guess you could bitch about the 2 RBIs and no HRs, but I figure if this guy just starts hitting in general, that shit will come.
This has also raised his BA by 40 points.
Quote from: IrishYeti on June 22, 2009, 12:06:01 PM
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Over his 10 game hitting streak: .389/.450/.950. I guess you could bitch about the 2 RBIs and no HRs, but I figure if this guy just starts hitting in general, that shit will come.
This has also raised his BA by 40 points.
Well, those are certainly his fault.
Quote from: Jon on June 22, 2009, 12:10:06 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on June 22, 2009, 12:06:01 PM
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Over his 10 game hitting streak: .389/.450/.950. I guess you could bitch about the 2 RBIs and no HRs, but I figure if this guy just starts hitting in general, that shit will come.
This has also raised his BA by 40 points.
Well, those are certainly his fault.
Do they have batting average RISP for those days?
Not saying it should be more, just wondering.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 22, 2009, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: Jon on June 22, 2009, 12:10:06 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on June 22, 2009, 12:06:01 PM
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Over his 10 game hitting streak: .389/.450/.950. I guess you could bitch about the 2 RBIs and no HRs, but I figure if this guy just starts hitting in general, that shit will come.
This has also raised his BA by 40 points.
Well, those are certainly his fault.
Do they have batting average RISP for those days?
Not saying it should be more, just wondering.
Well, that really
would be too small a sample size.
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot. More likely though, with Lee starting to hit, he's probably seeing some better pitches.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
Quote from: Shooter on June 22, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
I've learned to take BABiP with a grain of salt without having other stats, like line drive %, to go along with it.
Even when Milton was not hitting, he was still walking. Without looking at the numbers, I would guess his walk rate and K rate held steady in regard to his career.
Seriously, why isn't he hitting 7th more often? OK, that wasn't serious.
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 22, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
I've learned to take BABiP with a grain of salt without having other stats, like line drive %, to go along with it.
Even when Milton was not hitting, he was still walking. Without looking at the numbers, I would guess his walk rate and K rate held steady in regard to his career.
Seriously, why isn't he hitting 7th more often? OK, that wasn't serious.
With a little finagling of data from FanGraphs and BBRef, it's possible to approximate his LD% splits across batting order position. This assumes that if he starts in batting order position X, every AB he takes during the game occurs in that batting position. ExpBABIP is estimated at .120 + the LD% (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-line-drives-could-speak/). Residual is the difference between the BABIP and ExpBABIP--you might call it "luck." So, Milton's been
slightly "lucky" in the third spot, and somewhere between "unlucky" and "really unlucky" everywhere else (although, 6, 7, and 9 are insignificant in terms of sample sizes).
BOP LD% BABIP ExpBABIP Residual
3 0.254 0.381 0.374 0.007
4 0.077 0.160 0.197 -0.037
5 0.179 0.185 0.299 -0.114
6 0.167 0.200 0.287 -0.087
7 1.000 1.000 1.120 -0.120
9 0.000 0.000 0.120 -0.120
Total 0.198 0.285 0.318 -0.033
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 22, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
I've learned to take BABiP with a grain of salt without having other stats, like line drive %, to go along with it.
Even when Milton was not hitting, he was still walking. Without looking at the numbers, I would guess his walk rate and K rate held steady in regard to his career.
Seriously, why isn't he hitting 7th more often? OK, that wasn't serious.
With a little finagling of data from FanGraphs and BBRef, it's possible to approximate his LD% splits across batting order position. This assumes that if he starts in batting order position X, every AB he takes during the game occurs in that batting position. ExpBABIP is estimated at .120 + the LD% (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-line-drives-could-speak/). Residual is the difference between the BABIP and ExpBABIP--you might call it "luck." So, Milton's been slightly "lucky" in the third spot, and somewhere between "unlucky" and "really unlucky" everywhere else (although, 6, 7, and 9 are insignificant in terms of sample sizes).
BOP LD% BABIP ExpBABIP Residual
3 0.254 0.381 0.374 0.007
4 0.077 0.160 0.197 -0.037
5 0.179 0.185 0.299 -0.114
6 0.167 0.200 0.287 -0.087
7 1.000 1.000 1.120 -0.120
9 0.000 0.000 0.120 -0.120
Total 0.198 0.285 0.318 -0.033
Would have any idea what the average LD% is for a major leaguer? How about for a third place hitter? Outfielders?
Overall, this does bode well for Bradley for the rest of the year.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
The heaving the ball in the stands undersells his fuck up. He forgot how many outs there were and decided to showboat.
As to equating him to Barrett, you have to give Bradley a chance. Barrett had two and a half seasons under hsi belt here when Z busted him up. Give Bradley another 300 games and then compare.
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 22, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
I've learned to take BABiP with a grain of salt without having other stats, like line drive %, to go along with it.
Even when Milton was not hitting, he was still walking. Without looking at the numbers, I would guess his walk rate and K rate held steady in regard to his career.
Seriously, why isn't he hitting 7th more often? OK, that wasn't serious.
With a little finagling of data from FanGraphs and BBRef, it's possible to approximate his LD% splits across batting order position. This assumes that if he starts in batting order position X, every AB he takes during the game occurs in that batting position. ExpBABIP is estimated at .120 + the LD% (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-line-drives-could-speak/). Residual is the difference between the BABIP and ExpBABIP--you might call it "luck." So, Milton's been slightly "lucky" in the third spot, and somewhere between "unlucky" and "really unlucky" everywhere else (although, 6, 7, and 9 are insignificant in terms of sample sizes).
BOP LD% BABIP ExpBABIP Residual
3 0.254 0.381 0.374 0.007
4 0.077 0.160 0.197 -0.037
5 0.179 0.185 0.299 -0.114
6 0.167 0.200 0.287 -0.087
7 1.000 1.000 1.120 -0.120
9 0.000 0.000 0.120 -0.120
Total 0.198 0.285 0.318 -0.033
Would have any idea what the average LD% is for a major leaguer? How about for a third place hitter? Outfielders?
Overall, this does bode well for Bradley for the rest of the year.
Across all players, average LD% is about 18.7%. I don't know where you'd go to find a split like that across all BOP for all players. Milton's average LD% for his career is 21% with a .321 BABIP. Last year, he put up 25% and .388 respectively.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 22, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
I've learned to take BABiP with a grain of salt without having other stats, like line drive %, to go along with it.
Even when Milton was not hitting, he was still walking. Without looking at the numbers, I would guess his walk rate and K rate held steady in regard to his career.
Seriously, why isn't he hitting 7th more often? OK, that wasn't serious.
With a little finagling of data from FanGraphs and BBRef, it's possible to approximate his LD% splits across batting order position. This assumes that if he starts in batting order position X, every AB he takes during the game occurs in that batting position. ExpBABIP is estimated at .120 + the LD% (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-line-drives-could-speak/). Residual is the difference between the BABIP and ExpBABIP--you might call it "luck." So, Milton's been slightly "lucky" in the third spot, and somewhere between "unlucky" and "really unlucky" everywhere else (although, 6, 7, and 9 are insignificant in terms of sample sizes).
BOP LD% BABIP ExpBABIP Residual
3 0.254 0.381 0.374 0.007
4 0.077 0.160 0.197 -0.037
5 0.179 0.185 0.299 -0.114
6 0.167 0.200 0.287 -0.087
7 1.000 1.000 1.120 -0.120
9 0.000 0.000 0.120 -0.120
Total 0.198 0.285 0.318 -0.033
Would have any idea what the average LD% is for a major leaguer? How about for a third place hitter? Outfielders?
Overall, this does bode well for Bradley for the rest of the year.
Across all players, average LD% is about 18.7%. I don't know where you'd go to find a split like that across all BOP for all players. Milton's average LD% for his career is 21% with a .321 BABIP. Last year, he put up 25% and .388 respectively.
What's the conclusion from all of this - that he's getting out of a slump? That he hasn't really been slumping?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 01:41:47 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
The heaving the ball in the stands undersells his fuck up. He forgot how many outs there were and decided to showboat.
As to equating him to Barrett, you have to give Bradley a chance. Barrett had two and a half seasons under hsi belt here when Z busted him up. Give Bradley another 300 games and then compare.
It was still just one fuckup. At the time Barrett got punched and eventually traded (in June if I recall), we had a litiny of Baseball Retarded Acts piled up on these threads. If they moved Bradley to catcher, he might eventually catch Barrett but I doubt it. He'd probably get hurt the first game. I know it upsets you terribly that the Cubs have a black dude on their team but please try to be objective.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 01:41:47 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
The heaving the ball in the stands undersells his fuck up. He forgot how many outs there were and decided to showboat.
As to equating him to Barrett, you have to give Bradley a chance. Barrett had two and a half seasons under hsi belt here when Z busted him up. Give Bradley another 300 games and then compare.
No, he wasn't showboating. First of all, the mere act of throwing the ball into stands is fine, if it's the third out. It happens all the time. Secondly, his pose I took as being more of a relief that he caught the ball, since he lost one in the sun just before that catch.
I guess you'll just see however you want to though.
I cannot possibly defend the stupidity of losing track of the number of outs, but that happens, too. It happened to Larry Walker, and no one accused him of being a stupid ballplayer. So, whatever.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 22, 2009, 01:45:55 PM
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Quote from: Shooter on June 22, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
I've learned to take BABiP with a grain of salt without having other stats, like line drive %, to go along with it.
Even when Milton was not hitting, he was still walking. Without looking at the numbers, I would guess his walk rate and K rate held steady in regard to his career.
Seriously, why isn't he hitting 7th more often? OK, that wasn't serious.
With a little finagling of data from FanGraphs and BBRef, it's possible to approximate his LD% splits across batting order position. This assumes that if he starts in batting order position X, every AB he takes during the game occurs in that batting position. ExpBABIP is estimated at .120 + the LD% (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-line-drives-could-speak/). Residual is the difference between the BABIP and ExpBABIP--you might call it "luck." So, Milton's been slightly "lucky" in the third spot, and somewhere between "unlucky" and "really unlucky" everywhere else (although, 6, 7, and 9 are insignificant in terms of sample sizes).
BOP LD% BABIP ExpBABIP Residual
3 0.254 0.381 0.374 0.007
4 0.077 0.160 0.197 -0.037
5 0.179 0.185 0.299 -0.114
6 0.167 0.200 0.287 -0.087
7 1.000 1.000 1.120 -0.120
9 0.000 0.000 0.120 -0.120
Total 0.198 0.285 0.318 -0.033
Would have any idea what the average LD% is for a major leaguer? How about for a third place hitter? Outfielders?
Overall, this does bode well for Bradley for the rest of the year.
Across all players, average LD% is about 18.7%. I don't know where you'd go to find a split like that across all BOP for all players. Milton's average LD% for his career is 21% with a .321 BABIP. Last year, he put up 25% and .388 respectively.
What's the conclusion from all of this - that he's getting out of a slump? That he hasn't really been slumping?
Precisely. His expected BA, judging from his line drive percentage is well below what it should (what is expected). Many of his line drives are turning into outs. That eventually evens out, especially for a player who hits as many line drives as he does.
We're about to get a healthy dose of Badass Milton. Sit back and enjoy.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 22, 2009, 01:45:55 PM
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Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 22, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
I've learned to take BABiP with a grain of salt without having other stats, like line drive %, to go along with it.
Even when Milton was not hitting, he was still walking. Without looking at the numbers, I would guess his walk rate and K rate held steady in regard to his career.
Seriously, why isn't he hitting 7th more often? OK, that wasn't serious.
With a little finagling of data from FanGraphs and BBRef, it's possible to approximate his LD% splits across batting order position. This assumes that if he starts in batting order position X, every AB he takes during the game occurs in that batting position. ExpBABIP is estimated at .120 + the LD% (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-line-drives-could-speak/). Residual is the difference between the BABIP and ExpBABIP--you might call it "luck." So, Milton's been slightly "lucky" in the third spot, and somewhere between "unlucky" and "really unlucky" everywhere else (although, 6, 7, and 9 are insignificant in terms of sample sizes).
BOP LD% BABIP ExpBABIP Residual
3 0.254 0.381 0.374 0.007
4 0.077 0.160 0.197 -0.037
5 0.179 0.185 0.299 -0.114
6 0.167 0.200 0.287 -0.087
7 1.000 1.000 1.120 -0.120
9 0.000 0.000 0.120 -0.120
Total 0.198 0.285 0.318 -0.033
Would have any idea what the average LD% is for a major leaguer? How about for a third place hitter? Outfielders?
Overall, this does bode well for Bradley for the rest of the year.
Across all players, average LD% is about 18.7%. I don't know where you'd go to find a split like that across all BOP for all players. Milton's average LD% for his career is 21% with a .321 BABIP. Last year, he put up 25% and .388 respectively.
What's the conclusion from all of this - that he's getting out of a slump? That he hasn't really been slumping?
Conclusion? He was due for a drop-off from last year's numbers, but not on the order of what we've seen so far. Keep slotting him in the three hole with a hot bat behind him at cleanup. And Fork and Chuck are racist.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 01:41:47 PM
Give Bradley another 300 games and then compare.
You've obviously had time to reach a conclusion, no?
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 01:54:40 PM
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Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 22, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Maybe Milton just has a thing for the three hole.
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 3rd 19 19 82 74 9 25 5 1 1 7 0 0 6 10 .338 .402 .473 .875 35 3 2 0 0 0 0 .381 133 112
Batting 4th 11 11 44 33 6 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 9 7 .152 .364 .273 .636 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .160 72 60
Batting 5th 11 11 44 39 6 7 1 0 2 4 0 0 5 10 .179 .273 .359 .632 14 2 0 0 0 1 0 .185 68 60
Batting 6th 3 2 9 9 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 .222 .222 .556 .778 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 103 97
Batting 7th 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 434 462
Batting 9th 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .167 .000 .167 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -53 -39
He's hit safely in 18 of the 19 games when in the third spot.
Looks like a lot of "luck" -- his BABIP is unusually high when batting 3rd and unusually low when batting 4th and 5th.
I've learned to take BABiP with a grain of salt without having other stats, like line drive %, to go along with it.
Even when Milton was not hitting, he was still walking. Without looking at the numbers, I would guess his walk rate and K rate held steady in regard to his career.
Seriously, why isn't he hitting 7th more often? OK, that wasn't serious.
With a little finagling of data from FanGraphs and BBRef, it's possible to approximate his LD% splits across batting order position. This assumes that if he starts in batting order position X, every AB he takes during the game occurs in that batting position. ExpBABIP is estimated at .120 + the LD% (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-line-drives-could-speak/). Residual is the difference between the BABIP and ExpBABIP--you might call it "luck." So, Milton's been slightly "lucky" in the third spot, and somewhere between "unlucky" and "really unlucky" everywhere else (although, 6, 7, and 9 are insignificant in terms of sample sizes).
BOP LD% BABIP ExpBABIP Residual
3 0.254 0.381 0.374 0.007
4 0.077 0.160 0.197 -0.037
5 0.179 0.185 0.299 -0.114
6 0.167 0.200 0.287 -0.087
7 1.000 1.000 1.120 -0.120
9 0.000 0.000 0.120 -0.120
Total 0.198 0.285 0.318 -0.033
Would have any idea what the average LD% is for a major leaguer? How about for a third place hitter? Outfielders?
Overall, this does bode well for Bradley for the rest of the year.
Across all players, average LD% is about 18.7%. I don't know where you'd go to find a split like that across all BOP for all players. Milton's average LD% for his career is 21% with a .321 BABIP. Last year, he put up 25% and .388 respectively.
What's the conclusion from all of this - that he's getting out of a slump? That he hasn't really been slumping?
Conclusion? He was due for a drop-off from last year's numbers, but not on the order of what we've seen so far. Keep slotting him in the three hole with a hot bat behind him at cleanup. And Fork and Chuck are racist.
I like my conclusion better.
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:51:16 PM
No, he wasn't showboating. First of all, the mere act of throwing the ball into stands is fine, if it's the third out. It happens all the time. Secondly, his pose I took as being more of a relief that he caught the ball, since he lost one in the sun just before that catch.
I thought a pose was, by definition, showboating. When does a pose become showboating?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 01:51:16 PM
No, he wasn't showboating. First of all, the mere act of throwing the ball into stands is fine, if it's the third out. It happens all the time. Secondly, his pose I took as being more of a relief that he caught the ball, since he lost one in the sun just before that catch.
I thought a pose was, by definition, showboating. When does a pose become showboating?
If his pose was one of relief that he caught the ball (as assumed by Oleg) then would the pose not be self-deprecating? If you show relief for having made the play, then the implication is that you were not confident in your abilities and did not expect to have successfully made the catch. If you don't pose,
then you're flaunting your abilities.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:48:35 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 01:41:47 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
The heaving the ball in the stands undersells his fuck up. He forgot how many outs there were and decided to showboat.
As to equating him to Barrett, you have to give Bradley a chance. Barrett had two and a half seasons under hsi belt here when Z busted him up. Give Bradley another 300 games and then compare.
It was still just one fuckup. At the time Barrett got punched and eventually traded (in June if I recall), we had a litiny of Baseball Retarded Acts piled up on these threads. If they moved Bradley to catcher, he might eventually catch Barrett but I doubt it. He'd probably get hurt the first game. I know it upsets you terribly that the Cubs have a black dude on their team but please try to be objective.
*High five*
Arguing that Milton is as stupid as Barrett is positively Kaplan-esque.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 02:13:59 PM
Arguing that Milton is as stupid as Barrett is positively Kaplan-esque.
We can send him a text...
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 02:19:30 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 02:13:59 PM
Arguing that Milton is as stupid as Barrett is positively Kaplan-esque.
We can send him a text...
He blocked me from his blog and now he won't answer my emails. I might actually need his phone number. Or I'll just start hanging around the local tanning salons.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning (trying to take an extra base on a ball where the RF was running in to field it), running through Quade's stop sign (he had his arms up), causing the second-fattest male (23rd overall) in section 511 to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as soon as he rounded second. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 02:30:41 PM
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Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning, running through Quade's stop sign. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
Theriot does that all the time. Since I have many black friends, I've been pointing out how retarded Theriot is all season.
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 02:30:41 PM
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Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning, running through Quade's stop sign. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
If I coached little league though, and God help everyone involved if I do, I wouldn't bench a kid for running into an out. I might threaten castration, but I wouldn't actually mean it.
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning (trying to take an extra base on a ball where the RF was running in to field it), running through Quade's stop sign (he had his arms up), causing the second-fattest male (23rd overall) in section 511 to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as soon as he rounded second. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
So that makes Theriot stupid beyond recognition.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 02:28:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 02:19:30 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 02:13:59 PM
Arguing that Milton is as stupid as Barrett is positively Kaplan-esque.
We can send him a text...
He blocked me from his blog and now he won't answer my emails. I might actually need his phone number. Or I'll just start hanging around the local tanning salons.
I hear he's caucasianing up. He was using a David Hernandez credit card to pay for the tanning.
Quote from: Slak on June 22, 2009, 02:33:33 PM
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Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning (trying to take an extra base on a ball where the RF was running in to field it), running through Quade's stop sign (he had his arms up), causing the second-fattest male (23rd overall) in section 511 to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as soon as he rounded second. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
So that makes Theriot stupid beyond recognition.
I never said Theriot wasn't stupid. I also don't think either of them are in the Ronnie Cedeno class. That is a very special kind of stupid.
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 02:34:50 PM
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Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning (trying to take an extra base on a ball where the RF was running in to field it), running through Quade's stop sign (he had his arms up), causing the second-fattest male (23rd overall) in section 511 to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as soon as he rounded second. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
So that makes Theriot stupid beyond recognition.
I never said Theriot wasn't stupid. I also don't think either of them are in the Ronnie Cedeno class. That is a very special kind of stupid.
When the extra base hits start piling up for Milt - you, Chuck and MikeC can chew on a tuft of Milt's yanked pubes.
Quote from: Slak on June 22, 2009, 02:36:28 PM
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Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning (trying to take an extra base on a ball where the RF was running in to field it), running through Quade's stop sign (he had his arms up), causing the second-fattest male (23rd overall) in section 511 to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as soon as he rounded second. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
So that makes Theriot stupid beyond recognition.
I never said Theriot wasn't stupid. I also don't think either of them are in the Ronnie Cedeno class. That is a very special kind of stupid.
When the extra base hits start piling up for Milt - you, Chuck and MikeC can chew on a tuft of Milt's yanked pubes.
PenFoe, too.
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 02:37:43 PM
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Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning (trying to take an extra base on a ball where the RF was running in to field it), running through Quade's stop sign (he had his arms up), causing the second-fattest male (23rd overall) in section 511 to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as soon as he rounded second. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
So that makes Theriot stupid beyond recognition.
I never said Theriot wasn't stupid. I also don't think either of them are in the Ronnie Cedeno class. That is a very special kind of stupid.
When the extra base hits start piling up for Milt - you, Chuck and MikeC can chew on a tuft of Milt's yanked pubes.
PenFoe, too.
And when Hendry trades him to the AL for the 3rd year of his deal and Milton comes back to play the Cubs during interleague play you can give him a standing ovation when he comes to bat with the go ahead run on...
...ah fuck it.
I really don't care one way or the other, I'm just sick of the whole damn thing.
Quote from: CT III on June 22, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
And when Hendry trades him to the AL for the 3rd year of his deal and Milton comes back to play the Cubs during interleague play you can give him a standing ovation when he comes to bat with the go ahead run on...
If Hendry's still part of the Cubs in 2011, it's because Sam Zell discovered a passion for baseball that bankruptcy court couldn't cure or he's charting high school pitchers with Ed Lynch.
Quote from: Oleg on June 22, 2009, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: Slak on June 22, 2009, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 02:34:50 PM
Quote from: Slak on June 22, 2009, 02:33:33 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning (trying to take an extra base on a ball where the RF was running in to field it), running through Quade's stop sign (he had his arms up), causing the second-fattest male (23rd overall) in section 511 to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as soon as he rounded second. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
So that makes Theriot stupid beyond recognition.
I never said Theriot wasn't stupid. I also don't think either of them are in the Ronnie Cedeno class. That is a very special kind of stupid.
When the extra base hits start piling up for Milt - you, Chuck and MikeC can chew on a tuft of Milt's yanked pubes.
PenFoe, too.
Oleg is correct, I was against this signing and have remained skeptical of Milton's worthiness.
That said, I hope he shoves it all back in my face for the rest of this year and the 2 to come.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 22, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
And when Hendry trades him to the AL for the 3rd year of his deal and Milton comes back to play the Cubs during interleague play you can give him a standing ovation when he comes to bat with the go ahead run on...
If Hendry's still part of the Cubs in 2011, it's because Sam Zell discovered a passion for baseball that bankruptcy court couldn't cure or he's charting high school pitchers with Ed Lynch.
Yes, Chuck. Because CT deserved to be taken literally, and not satirically.
Do you also ruin Looney Tunes for your kids by telling them that a talking rabbit is not possible?
Quote from: Slak on June 22, 2009, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 02:34:50 PM
Quote from: Slak on June 22, 2009, 02:33:33 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
The fact that he's starting to hit doesn't erase the fact that, on a daily basis, he does things so stupid that a Little Leaguer would get benched for it.
No he doesn't.
So far, yelling at an umpire and heaving a ball into the stands are the only things he's done that would get a little leaguer benched. Where does that rank him on the list of Criminally Baseball Stupid for 2009? He's no Michael Barrett.
Saturday he got thrown out at third for the final out in an inning (trying to take an extra base on a ball where the RF was running in to field it), running through Quade's stop sign (he had his arms up), causing the second-fattest male (23rd overall) in section 511 to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as soon as he rounded second. The man can flat-out rake, but he's dumb as a sack of hammers.
So that makes Theriot stupid beyond recognition.
I never said Theriot wasn't stupid. I also don't think either of them are in the Ronnie Cedeno class. That is a very special kind of stupid.
When the extra base hits start piling up for Milt - you, Chuck and MikeC can chew on a tuft of Milt's yanked pubes.
I said he could hit. He is just going to speed up the aging process I already am well into.
Quote from: MAD on June 22, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 22, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
And when Hendry trades him to the AL for the 3rd year of his deal and Milton comes back to play the Cubs during interleague play you can give him a standing ovation when he comes to bat with the go ahead run on...
If Hendry's still part of the Cubs in 2011, it's because Sam Zell discovered a passion for baseball that bankruptcy court couldn't cure or he's charting high school pitchers with Ed Lynch.
Yes, Chuck. Because CT deserved to be taken literally, and not satirically.
Do you also ruin Looney Tunes for your kids by telling them that a talking rabbit is not possible?
I bet he does do that. Only when he tells these kids he uses the word "feasible".
Quote from: MAD on June 22, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 22, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
And when Hendry trades him to the AL for the 3rd year of his deal and Milton comes back to play the Cubs during interleague play you can give him a standing ovation when he comes to bat with the go ahead run on...
If Hendry's still part of the Cubs in 2011, it's because Sam Zell discovered a passion for baseball that bankruptcy court couldn't cure or he's charting high school pitchers with Ed Lynch.
Yes, Chuck. Because CT deserved to be taken literally, and not satirically.
Do you also ruin Looney Tunes for your kids by telling them that a talking rabbit is not possible?
That doesn't even get at the fact -- while we're being literal here -- that the Cubs could do a lot worse than Jim Hendry as GM.
Quote from: MAD on June 22, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
Do you also ruin Looney Tunes for your kids by telling them that a talking rabbit is not possible?
We prefer Tom and Jerry.
They don't talk.
(Kinda ironic coming from me, no?)
And, while the Cubs could do worse than Hendry (and they have), they could also do much better.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: MAD on June 22, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
Do you also ruin Looney Tunes for your kids by telling them that a talking rabbit is not possible?
We prefer Tom and Jerry.
They don't talk.
(Kinda ironic coming from me, no?)
And, while the Cubs could do worse than Hendry (and they have), they could also do much better.
give us names.
Jim Finks (hey, it worked last time)
Quote from: Eli on June 22, 2009, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: MAD on June 22, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 22, 2009, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 22, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
And when Hendry trades him to the AL for the 3rd year of his deal and Milton comes back to play the Cubs during interleague play you can give him a standing ovation when he comes to bat with the go ahead run on...
If Hendry's still part of the Cubs in 2011, it's because Sam Zell discovered a passion for baseball that bankruptcy court couldn't cure or he's charting high school pitchers with Ed Lynch.
Yes, Chuck. Because CT deserved to be taken literally, and not satirically.
Do you also ruin Looney Tunes for your kids by telling them that a talking rabbit is not possible?
That doesn't even get at the fact -- while we're being literal here -- that the Cubs could do a lot worse than Jim Hendry as GM.
This.
His track record's putrid. Took over from MacPhail in 2002 after Baylor got canned...
-2003: Division title.. Noteworthy: dumped Hundley for two useful players and acquired Aramis/Lofton for useless players. Hired Dusty.
-2004: 89-win team, collapsed in final week to avoid playoffs. Noteworthy: Acquired Maddux, traded for Nomar, traded Hee Seop Choi for Derrek Lee. Signed LaTroy Hawkins. Traded for Michael Barrett
-2005: Mediocre team. Noteworthy: Dumped Sosa, but instead of signing Beltran, Ordonez, et al, went for Jeromy Burnitz. Dumped Hawkins for two generally useless players. Traded for Matt Lawton. Signed Hank White.
-2006: Shitty team. Noteworthy: Signed Howry and Eyre. Signed John Mabry. Traded for Phil Nevin. Dealt Maddux to LA for Cesar Izturis. Traded Todd Walker. Signed Jacque Jones.
-2007: Team comes back from crappy start to win division (and get swept). Noteworthy: Signs Ted Lilly (while nearly dying). Signs Jason Marquis. Signs Alfonso Soriano. Signs
Jesus of Nazereth Barack Obama Chuck Norris Mark DeRosa. Unloads Korey Patterson. Axes Dusty. Decides against Girardi (the fan's choice) and goes for Piniella (note: Girardi has made 0 postseason appearances since then). Trades Barrett. Trades for Jason Kendall. Signs Darryle Ward.
-2008: Team was the balls in regular season, swept again in playoffs. Noteworthy: Signs Kosuke. Lets Jacque Jones walk. Signs JI to play center. Signs Reed Johnson off waiver wire. Gives up on Rich Hill. Trades for Rich Harden. Gets a useful year out of Wood as closer. Allows for Geo Soto to take over as everyday catcher. Misses on acquiring Roberts, Sabbathia.
-2009: Jury still out. Lets Howry, Wood, Edmonds walk. Signs Milton Bradley. Signs Aaron Miles. Lets Hank White walk. Lets Darryle Ward walk. Trades for Kevin Gregg. Trades Mark DeRosa. Misses acquiring Jake Peavy. Trades for Ryan Freel.
That's six full seasons and 3 playoff appearances and a 6-12 record in the postseason. An average of 84 wins per season. Not terrible. 2005 and 2006 were his worst seasons, and maybe he learned something as he was held hostage by Dusty and Prior and Wood.
His time has also coincided with the largest ever gains in Cubs payroll, coupled with a drawdown in the payroll of their chief rival, the Cardinals. And the fact that he's managed to do this by locking into massively long contracts complete with no-trade clauses makes the next several years look interesting, to say the least.
I think the word "mediocre" was created to describe GMs like Jim Hendry. Not to go all former-letter, but Theo Epstein he ain't.
The next two years (2010 and 2011) look interesting. Beyond that, the problem will be Soriano's contract. Beyond that...
- You have Zambrano's contract through 2012.
- You have Ramirez through 2011 (and then they'll have to break the bank to keep him)
- Lee's a free agent after next year (Au revoir, Derrek)
- Lilly's a free agent after next year (See ya later, Ted)
- Kosuke is around until 2011 (if he doesn't decide to return to Japan or if he doesn't agree to a trade)
- Dempster's here through 2012 (not great)
- Bradley's probably here in 2011
- Szamardzija's here in 2011.
I think you'll see Zambrano offer to defer some money if the team's handcuffed in 2011 and 2012. Ditto Dempster. If the team's worth a shit. Otherwise, Zambrano will stew (and cash his checks) and Dempster will play out the string. You have $33 MM invested in these two stooges. If they pitch like it's 2008, it's not a bad deal.
Ramirez will be tough to re-sign, and that will be a tough blow. But then again, he'll be 33 during the 2011-2012 offseason. Lilly will be muy expensive, although again, so don't count on him here in 2011.
A lot depends on a new owner. Hendry did what was asked of him. From 2003-2006 Cubs payroll didn't move out of line relative to others. It was 2007- when apparently TribCo greenlighted him to spend (other people's money, they presumed).
Quote from: Brownie on June 22, 2009, 07:08:03 PM
Ramirez will be tough to re-sign, and that will be a tough blow. But then again, he'll be 33 during the 2011-2012 offseason.
If Vitters keeps progressing like he has been, it'll be an easy decision to let Ramirez walk away.
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 12:02:18 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 22, 2009, 07:08:03 PM
Ramirez will be tough to re-sign, and that will be a tough blow. But then again, he'll be 33 during the 2011-2012 offseason.
If Vitters keeps progressing like he has been, it'll be an easy decision to let Ramirez walk away.
If Ramirez hits like Ramirez until then, I don't see it being an easy decision at all. But probably a necessary one.
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 12:02:18 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 22, 2009, 07:08:03 PM
Ramirez will be tough to re-sign, and that will be a tough blow. But then again, he'll be 33 during the 2011-2012 offseason.
If Vitters keeps progressing like he has been, it'll be an easy decision to let Ramirez walk away.
You could always move A Ram to first in 2011 if Vitters is ready by then. Lee will be gone. There is a way to get them both on the field. Assuming Vitters gets here.
Quote from: SKO on June 23, 2009, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 12:02:18 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 22, 2009, 07:08:03 PM
Ramirez will be tough to re-sign, and that will be a tough blow. But then again, he'll be 33 during the 2011-2012 offseason.
If Vitters keeps progressing like he has been, it'll be an easy decision to let Ramirez walk away.
If Ramirez hits like Ramirez until then, I don't see it being an easy decision at all. But probably a necessary one.
Doom? (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-23-cubs-brite-chicago-jun23,0,1856003.story)
QuoteAfter taking swings, Ramirez is sure about one thing concerning the pain:
"It's going to be there for a while. It's getting better, but it's going to be there.
"When I start playing, it will still be there. It can't go away in two months; maybe [during] the off-season."
Ramirez said he had no trouble extending the left arm while taking ground balls, but the left arm to a right-handed swinger is perhaps the most important piece. It drives the ball and extends the bat.
I like where Lou said
Quote"Once we get Ramirez back, it's easy for me to put [Andres] Blanco at shortstop and move Fontenot to second."
And, put Theriot and Miles in a sack and throw them into Lake Michigan.
Quote from: Andy on June 23, 2009, 08:59:18 AM
I like where Lou said
Quote"Once we get Ramirez back, it's easy for me to put [Andres] Blanco at shortstop and move Fontenot to second."
And, put Theriot and Miles in a sack and throw them into Lake Michigan.
In all seriousness, assuming Blanco could play everyday at short--and call me a skeptic, but I'm still rather suspect about it--than my long-awaited Theriot/Fontenot platoon at the keystone may be realized.
But yeah--Aaron Miles. Go away. Please. And take Farny Freel with you.
Maybe the Cubs should just DFA Freel and hang on to Blanco regardless. I'm impressed with his defense. If Andres can play SS everyday (When did we EVER think we'd be saying THAT?), then I'd prefer Theriot move to second as the primary. Fontenot can go back to being a utility player, where he belongs.
Then again, I'd also prefer they trade for Hanley Ramirez and Chay Sutley.
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:16:45 AM
In all seriousness, assuming Blanco could play everyday at short--and call me a skeptic, but I'm still rather suspect about it--than my long-awaited Theriot/Fontenot platoon at the keystone may be realized.
I haven't had much of a chance to watch Blanco at short, but is his defense really
that good? He's going to struggle to OPS above .600 in the majors, so he better play defense like Ozzie Smith to justify his spot in the lineup. You also said you're a skeptic, so I'm directing this more at the board in general.
And I'm right on board with the idea of consolidating the Cajun midgets into one platoon at 2B.
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:16:45 AM
In all seriousness, assuming Blanco could play everyday at short--and call me a skeptic, but I'm still rather suspect about it--than my long-awaited Theriot/Fontenot platoon at the keystone may be realized.
I haven't had much of a chance to watch Blanco at short, but is his defense really that good? He's going to struggle to OPS above .600 in the majors, so he better play defense like Ozzie Smith to justify his spot in the lineup. You also said you're a skeptic, so I'm directing this more at the board in general.
And I'm right on board with the idea of consolidating the Cajun midgets into one platoon at 2B.
One could stand on the other's shoulders and be almost as tall as an adult.
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:16:45 AM
In all seriousness, assuming Blanco could play everyday at short--and call me a skeptic, but I'm still rather suspect about it--than my long-awaited Theriot/Fontenot platoon at the keystone may be realized.
I haven't had much of a chance to watch Blanco at short, but is his defense really that good? He's going to struggle to OPS above .600 in the majors, so he better play defense like Ozzie Smith to justify his spot in the lineup. You also said you're a skeptic, so I'm directing this more at the board in general.
And I'm right on board with the idea of consolidating the Cajun midgets into one platoon at 2B.
What Eli said. This (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6862.0) was one of those "enjoy a career minor leaguer's short-term success while we can" threads. Blanco's got a .633 career minor league OPS. He's a decent late inning defensive replacement/last guy on the bench type player. Unless he magically learns how to hit, which is a possibility I'm not entirely ruling out considering the pedigree of his last name.
Quote from: RV on June 23, 2009, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:16:45 AM
In all seriousness, assuming Blanco could play everyday at short--and call me a skeptic, but I'm still rather suspect about it--than my long-awaited Theriot/Fontenot platoon at the keystone may be realized.
I haven't had much of a chance to watch Blanco at short, but is his defense really that good? He's going to struggle to OPS above .600 in the majors, so he better play defense like Ozzie Smith to justify his spot in the lineup. You also said you're a skeptic, so I'm directing this more at the board in general.
And I'm right on board with the idea of consolidating the Cajun midgets into one platoon at 2B.
What Eli said. This (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6862.0) was one of those "enjoy a career minor leaguer's short-term success while we can" threads. Blanco's got a .633 career minor league OPS. He's a decent late inning defensive replacement/last guy on the bench type player. Unless he magically learns how to hit, which is a possibility I'm not entirely ruling out considering the pedigree of his last name.
Howevuh, if he does possess some sort of defensive wizadry at shortstop, they may be able to live with his Mendoza sucktitude in the lineup. If you look around at the other 7 positions on the field--assuming Soto is, in fact, on his way back to not being sucky--it's a pretty good lineup.
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: RV on June 23, 2009, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:16:45 AM
In all seriousness, assuming Blanco could play everyday at short--and call me a skeptic, but I'm still rather suspect about it--than my long-awaited Theriot/Fontenot platoon at the keystone may be realized.
I haven't had much of a chance to watch Blanco at short, but is his defense really that good? He's going to struggle to OPS above .600 in the majors, so he better play defense like Ozzie Smith to justify his spot in the lineup. You also said you're a skeptic, so I'm directing this more at the board in general.
And I'm right on board with the idea of consolidating the Cajun midgets into one platoon at 2B.
What Eli said. This (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6862.0) was one of those "enjoy a career minor leaguer's short-term success while we can" threads. Blanco's got a .633 career minor league OPS. He's a decent late inning defensive replacement/last guy on the bench type player. Unless he magically learns how to hit, which is a possibility I'm not entirely ruling out considering the pedigree of his last name.
Howevuh, if he does possess some sort of defensive wizadry at shortstop, they may be able to live with his Mendoza sucktitude in the lineup. If you look around at the other 7 positions on the field--assuming Soto is, in fact, on his way back to not being sucky--it's a pretty good lineup.
Yep, the factor of the greasy cajun platoonery at second might help hide Blanco's limp bat. He doesn't inspire confidence at the plate, but he has come up with a few timely hits this year.
We're on the kid's jock in two separate threads right now. I'm a fan of great defense at any position and would like to field an all-Blanco/Zambrano/Hart 40-man roster just to watch and soberly chart pitches in my fiancee's queer Japanese rabbit notebook. So anything I do or say about anything is extremely suspect. So I'm not saying anything really.
If this means I don't ever have to see Aaron Miles on the playing surface again, I'm all for it.
I don't think anyone's advocating Andy White as the SS of the future. Just the SS for now.
They don't grow on trees. Except for Ol' Leafy Jones back in the 1890's. That sumbitch fell right off a majestic Oak.
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
I had one foot dragging off the bandwagon after his mystifying mishap that turned TDubbs into George Wallace, but I'm proud to say that I have largely remained in Milt's corner. So, THIS.
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
I had one foot dragging off the bandwagon after his mystifying mishap that turned TDubbs into George Wallace, but I'm proud to say that I have largely remained in Milt's corner. So, THIS.
I've said it all along, Milt rules.
MikeC can literally eat shit.
Quote from: Slak on June 23, 2009, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
I had one foot dragging off the bandwagon after his mystifying mishap that turned TDubbs into George Wallace, but I'm proud to say that I have largely remained in Milt's corner. So, THIS.
I've said it all along, Milt rules.
MikeC can literally eat shit.
Can we at least wait for his season OPS to break .800 before "Milt Rules"?
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 11:51:09 AM
Quote from: Slak on June 23, 2009, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
I had one foot dragging off the bandwagon after his mystifying mishap that turned TDubbs into George Wallace, but I'm proud to say that I have largely remained in Milt's corner. So, THIS.
I've said it all along, Milt rules.
MikeC can literally eat shit.
Can we at least wait for his season OPS to break .800 before "Milt Rules"?
You can. If you like the taste of pubic hair and bowel movement.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 23, 2009, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 11:51:09 AM
Quote from: Slak on June 23, 2009, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
I had one foot dragging off the bandwagon after his mystifying mishap that turned TDubbs into George Wallace, but I'm proud to say that I have largely remained in Milt's corner. So, THIS.
I've said it all along, Milt rules.
MikeC can literally eat shit.
Can we at least wait for his season OPS to break .800 before "Milt Rules"?
You can. If you like the taste of pubic hair and bowel movement.
Seriously Pen - just try to ruin this Emporium. You'll be picking corn and curlies out of your teeth for days.
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: RV on June 23, 2009, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:16:45 AM
In all seriousness, assuming Blanco could play everyday at short--and call me a skeptic, but I'm still rather suspect about it--than my long-awaited Theriot/Fontenot platoon at the keystone may be realized.
I haven't had much of a chance to watch Blanco at short, but is his defense really that good? He's going to struggle to OPS above .600 in the majors, so he better play defense like Ozzie Smith to justify his spot in the lineup. You also said you're a skeptic, so I'm directing this more at the board in general.
And I'm right on board with the idea of consolidating the Cajun midgets into one platoon at 2B.
What Eli said. This (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6862.0) was one of those "enjoy a career minor leaguer's short-term success while we can" threads. Blanco's got a .633 career minor league OPS. He's a decent late inning defensive replacement/last guy on the bench type player. Unless he magically learns how to hit, which is a possibility I'm not entirely ruling out considering the pedigree of his last name.
Howevuh, if he does possess some sort of defensive wizadry at shortstop, they may be able to live with his Mendoza sucktitude in the lineup. If you look around at the other 7 positions on the field--assuming Soto is, in fact, on his way back to not being sucky--it's a pretty good lineup.
The only way this is even remotely a good idea is
if Blanco is a very, very good defensive shortstop
and the Cubs pitching staff is a groundball staff. I know that about a third of their outs are via strikeout. Anyone feel like seeing how the other 18-20 are made?
If they're anywhere near 50-50 gb/fb, I don't think Blanco's defense will outweigh his lack of offense over any length of time.
Quote from: Oleg on June 23, 2009, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: RV on June 23, 2009, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2009, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 09:16:45 AM
In all seriousness, assuming Blanco could play everyday at short--and call me a skeptic, but I'm still rather suspect about it--than my long-awaited Theriot/Fontenot platoon at the keystone may be realized.
I haven't had much of a chance to watch Blanco at short, but is his defense really that good? He's going to struggle to OPS above .600 in the majors, so he better play defense like Ozzie Smith to justify his spot in the lineup. You also said you're a skeptic, so I'm directing this more at the board in general.
And I'm right on board with the idea of consolidating the Cajun midgets into one platoon at 2B.
What Eli said. This (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6862.0) was one of those "enjoy a career minor leaguer's short-term success while we can" threads. Blanco's got a .633 career minor league OPS. He's a decent late inning defensive replacement/last guy on the bench type player. Unless he magically learns how to hit, which is a possibility I'm not entirely ruling out considering the pedigree of his last name.
Howevuh, if he does possess some sort of defensive wizadry at shortstop, they may be able to live with his Mendoza sucktitude in the lineup. If you look around at the other 7 positions on the field--assuming Soto is, in fact, on his way back to not being sucky--it's a pretty good lineup.
The only way this is even remotely a good idea is if Blanco is a very, very good defensive shortstop and the Cubs pitching staff is a groundball staff. I know that about a third of their outs are via strikeout. Anyone feel like seeing how the other 18-20 are made?
If they're anywhere near 50-50 gb/fb, I don't think Blanco's defense will outweigh his lack of offense over any length of time.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/2009-pitching.shtml
GB/FB ratio is 0.78... which tends to support your last statement.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
Last 7 days: .556/.500/1.333
Last 14 days: .563/.579/1.563
Last 28 days: .306/.395/.778
Who's stats?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/r8xpnl.gif)
Just saying you might want to temper expectations a bit.
or...
LET'S SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/14wbz2u.jpg)
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
Last 7 days: .556/.500/1.333
Last 14 days: .563/.579/1.563
Last 28 days: .306/.395/.778
Who's stats?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/r8xpnl.gif)
Just saying you might want to temper expectations a bit.
or...
LET'S SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/14wbz2u.jpg)
He's just not getting the extra base hits yet. They're coming. Oh yes...they are coming.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
Last 7 days: .556/.500/1.333
Last 14 days: .563/.579/1.563
Last 28 days: .306/.395/.778
Who's stats?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/r8xpnl.gif)
Just saying you might want to temper expectations a bit.
or...
LET'S SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/14wbz2u.jpg)
That would be a good comparison...if Gabe Kapler wasn't a career garbage player in a hot streak as opposed to a career good player returning to the norm. Also, I notice Kapler has been with six teams in only 11 season. He must be a HORRIBLE BAD GUY IN THE CLUBHOUSE!
Also, I think your numbers are wronger than your abominable sexual preference, statfag. According to B-R, Kapler is:
Last 7 days: .400/.333/.800
Last 14 days: .667/.667/1.750
Last 28 days: .333/.400/.867
Career garbage player?!?
You sir, have desecrated the KAPLER DIVE and that will not stand.
WILL. NOT. STAND.
Pen just wanted an excuse to use the Kapler Dive GIF, and I will never, ever fault anyone for that.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 01:15:14 PM
Also, I think your numbers are wronger than your abominable sexual preference, statfag. According to B-R, Kapler is:
Last 7 days: .400/.333/.800
Last 14 days: .667/.667/1.750
Last 28 days: .333/.400/.867
I was going from the 16-22 (for the week) to make the comparison = to Milt.
I did the 25th - 22nd for the Month data.
Regardless...
(http://xore.ca/missingthepoint.png)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb27/Shadow-Village-Ninja/Motivational%20Posters/perspective-motivational-poster.jpg)
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 01:15:14 PM
Also, I think your numbers are wronger than your abominable sexual preference, statfag. According to B-R, Kapler is:
Last 7 days: .400/.333/.800
Last 14 days: .667/.667/1.750
Last 28 days: .333/.400/.867
I was going from the 16-22 (for the week) to make the comparison = to Milt.
I did the 25th - 22nd for the Month data.
Regardless...
(http://xore.ca/missingthepoint.png)
I don't think I missed the point. I think I directly addressed it when I pointed out what a gigantic dumbass you are to compare Gabe Kapler's splits to Milton Bradley's.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 01:46:09 PM
I don't think I missed the point. I think I directly addressed it when I pointed out what a gigantic dumbass you are to compare Gabe Kapler's splits to Milton Bradley's.
The point was not to compare Kapler's stats, it was to point out that splits from one month just aren't that telling.
I can only assume you thought it said "Kaplan" and lost sight of what we were talking about.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 01:46:09 PM
I don't think I missed the point. I think I directly addressed it when I pointed out what a gigantic dumbass you are to compare Gabe Kapler's splits to Milton Bradley's.
The point was not to compare Kapler's stats, it was to point out that splits from one month just aren't that telling.
I can only assume you thought it said "Kaplan" and lost sight of what we were talking about.
Damn. Pen's on a roll today. First the Hueyified interpretation of the Clement story, now this?
Somebody ate his Wheaties.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 01:46:09 PM
I don't think I missed the point. I think I directly addressed it when I pointed out what a gigantic dumbass you are to compare Gabe Kapler's splits to Milton Bradley's.
The point was not to compare Kapler's stats, it was to point out that splits from one month just aren't that telling.
I can only assume you thought it said "Kaplan" and lost sight of what we were talking about.
Can I extend your logic to suggest that every person defecating himself over the 102 at-bats which preceded Milton's most-recent 60 at-bats is stupid? Then I agree, sir.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 01:46:09 PM
I don't think I missed the point. I think I directly addressed it when I pointed out what a gigantic dumbass you are to compare Gabe Kapler's splits to Milton Bradley's.
The point was not to compare Kapler's stats, it was to point out that splits from one month just aren't that telling.
I can only assume you thought it said "Kaplan" and lost sight of what we were talking about.
Can I extend your logic to suggest that every person defecating himself over the 102 at-bats which preceded Milton's most-recent 60 at-bats is stupid? Then I agree, sir.
What if we were just turtling a little?
Quote from: MAD on June 23, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 23, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
I hope all you anti-Milton buttchuggers have been paying attention to the last week two weeks four weeks.
Last 7 days: .381/.458/.476
Last 14: .378/.439/.486
Last 28: .333/.403/.433
To quote Lou Brown, "It's startin' to come together, Pepper. Startin' to come together."
I had one foot dragging off the bandwagon after his mystifying mishap that turned TDubbs into George Wallace, but I'm proud to say that I have largely remained in Milt's corner. So, THIS.
Intrepid Reader: TDubbsMilton Bradley is near.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 03:12:50 PM
What if we were just turtling a little?
I don't know what that means, but if it means:
- withdrawing into your shell to defend against a non-sexual or sexual
assault, then that's cool
- if it means going to the bar to pick up chicks who are so fat that when
you knock them over they are unable to get up so you can have your
way with them, then it's not cool.
- If aforementioned fat chicks gave prior consent, then it's cool but we'd
prefer if you discuss it somewhere else (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/league-of-her-own/).
- if you mean the
Real Time Strategy definition of being a defensive
minded player, then take your nerd talk somewhere else (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/forumdisplay.php?f=6) where
someone may someday give a shit.
- If it's some hip fake or real cockney phrase that you got off some BBC
show then it's definitely cool, but you'll have to wait for someone cool
to come around and makes a related reference that none of us get the
reference to before you actually experience the moment of cool validation.
- If it's related to drugs then booze, weed, caffeine, shrooom, or cigars
given to celebrate the birth of a child, then that's cool. If it's something
harder than you should seek treatment (MikeC).
(also applies to the combination of narcotics and any of the above.)
Quote from: Pre on June 23, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 03:12:50 PM
What if we were just turtling a little?
I don't know what that means, but if it means:
- withdrawing into your shell to defend against a non-sexual or sexual
assault, then that's cool
- if it means going to the bar to pick up chicks who are so fat that when
you knock them over they are unable to get up so you can have your
way with them, then it's not cool.
- If aforementioned fat chicks gave prior consent, then it's cool but we'd
prefer if you discuss it somewhere else (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/league-of-her-own/).
- if you mean the Real Time Strategy definition of being a defensive
minded player, then take your nerd talk somewhere else (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/forumdisplay.php?f=6) where
someone may someday give a shit.
- If it's some hip fake or real cockney phrase that you got off some BBC
show then it's definitely cool, but you'll have to wait for someone cool
to come around and makes a related reference that none of us get the
reference to before you actually experience the moment of cool validation.
- If it's related to drugs then booze, weed, caffeine, shrooom, or cigars
given to celebrate the birth of a child, then that's cool. If it's something
harder than you should seek treatment (MikeC).
(also applies to the combination of narcotics and any of the above.)
I think Pen was just referring to trying to put a leash on the loggerhead pushing at one's brown eye.
(Versus full-on defecating oneself.)
Quote from: Pre on June 23, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 23, 2009, 03:12:50 PM
What if we were just turtling a little?
I don't know what that means, but if it means:
- withdrawing into your shell to defend against a non-sexual or sexual
assault, then that's cool
- if it means going to the bar to pick up chicks who are so fat that when
you knock them over they are unable to get up so you can have your
way with them, then it's not cool.
- If aforementioned fat chicks gave prior consent, then it's cool but we'd
prefer if you discuss it somewhere else (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/league-of-her-own/).
- if you mean the Real Time Strategy definition of being a defensive
minded player, then take your nerd talk somewhere else (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/forumdisplay.php?f=6) where
someone may someday give a shit.
- If it's some hip fake or real cockney phrase that you got off some BBC
show then it's definitely cool, but you'll have to wait for someone cool
to come around and makes a related reference that none of us get the
reference to before you actually experience the moment of cool validation.
- If it's related to drugs then booze, weed, caffeine, shrooom, or cigars
given to celebrate the birth of a child, then that's cool. If it's something
harder than you should seek treatment (MikeC).
(also applies to the combination of narcotics and any of the above.)
Every single one of these sucks. (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/league-of-her-own/loho-lingo.html)
Quote from: Tank on June 23, 2009, 11:52:13 PM
I think Pen was just referring to trying to put a leash on the loggerhead pushing at one's brown eye.
(Versus full-on defecating oneself.)
Nodding.
BTW...
Quote from: Pre on June 23, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
- if you mean the Real Time Strategy definition of being a defensive
minded player, then take your nerd talk somewhere else (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/forumdisplay.php?f=6) where
someone may someday give a shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_real-time_strategy
MMORTS?
Quote from: Tank on June 24, 2009, 01:48:21 AM
BTW...
Quote from: Pre on June 23, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
- if you mean the Real Time Strategy definition of being a defensive
minded player, then take your nerd talk somewhere else (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/forumdisplay.php?f=6) where
someone may someday give a shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_real-time_strategy
MMORTS?
The summer fashion world will never be the same.
(http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/short-shorts.jpg)
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2009, 07:48:22 AM
Quote from: Tank on June 24, 2009, 01:48:21 AM
BTW...
Quote from: Pre on June 23, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
- if you mean the Real Time Strategy definition of being a defensive
minded player, then take your nerd talk somewhere else (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/forumdisplay.php?f=6) where
someone may someday give a shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_real-time_strategy
MMORTS?
The summer fashion world will never be the same.
(http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/short-shorts.jpg)
Dude, that guy is turtling too. I can see it.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on June 24, 2009, 12:08:59 AM
Every single one of these sucks. (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/league-of-her-own/loho-lingo.html)
Wow. That is terrible.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 24, 2009, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on June 24, 2009, 12:08:59 AM
Every single one of these sucks. (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/league-of-her-own/loho-lingo.html)
Wow. That is terrible.
No HJE?
All i keep hearing is "Milton Bradley is going to be hitting soon." What are we at the end of June and Milton's stat line sets at .243 BA, .354 OBP, .744 OPS with 5 HR, and 16 RBI, 23 Runs in 164 AB's. Hey its an improvement over .189 right?
Ryan Theriot is hitting .284 with a .339 OBP, with a .757 OPS. With 6 HR, 26 RBI, and 36 runs in 261 AB's.
Bradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's. I am still waiting for him to pass the Juggernaut offensive force Ryan Theriot in HR's, RBI, and Runs. I think any decent offensive player worth his salt could out produce Ryan Theriot by June 23rd. Did we really pay this much money for a guy who performs worse offensively than Ryan Theriot?
While everyone is drooling over his career year in Texas most people miss that Bradley has a career .822 OPS, only once ever got to 20 HR's, and only twice in his career managed to get above 70 RBI. So basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer. Milton isn't gifted with great power and he has never been a proven RBI producer. Right now he is on pace 14 HR and 44 RBI, fucking Matt Murton could do better than that. But he is gonna heat up anytime now, start clobbering HR's (which he doesn't do) and start knocking in tons of runs (which he has never done). Keep believing in Milton Bradley, all i see is a average player at best getting paid to act like a better baseball player than he really is. At least he has gone from "sucks ass" to "passable" but if your expecting more than that your gonna be disappointed.
I think the Cubs need to bust out the RBI-O-Meter for Bradley and see if he can hit 20 RBI before the All-Star break. God damn that's just pathetic thinking about it, and people still are on the Bradley band wagon?
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PM
All i keep hearing is "Milton Bradley is going to be hitting soon." What are we at the end of June and Milton's stat line sets at .243 BA, .354 OBP, .744 OPS with 5 HR, and 16 RBI, 23 Runs in 164 AB's. Hey its an improvement over .189 right?
Ryan Theriot is hitting .284 with a .339 OBP, with a .757 OPS. With 6 HR, 26 RBI, and 36 runs in 261 AB's.
Bradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's. I am still waiting for him to pass the Juggernaut offensive force Ryan Theriot in HR's, RBI, and Runs. I think any decent offensive player worth his salt could out produce Ryan Theriot by June 23rd. Did we really pay this much money for a guy who performs worse offensively than Ryan Theriot?
While everyone is drooling over his career year in Texas most people miss that Bradley has a career .822 OPS, only once ever got to 20 HR's, and only twice in his career managed to get above 70 RBI. So basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer. Milton isn't gifted with great power and he has never been a proven RBI producer. Right now he is on pace 14 HR and 44 RBI, fucking Matt Murton could do better than that. But he is gonna heat up anytime now, start clobbering HR's (which he doesn't do) and start knocking in tons of runs (which he has never done). Keep believing in Milton Bradley, all i see is a average player at best getting paid to act like a better baseball player than he really is. At least he has gone from "sucks ass" to "passable" but if your expecting more than that your gonna be disappointed.
I think the Cubs need to bust out the RBI-O-Meter for Bradley and see if he can hit 20 RBI before the All-Star break. God damn that's just pathetic thinking about it, and people still are on the Bradley band wagon?
You don't know me, and I hate you, but you're mentally retarded.
I hate Bradley as much as the next racist guy, but seriously? If you're this stupid in the clusterfuck thread, then maybe I could actually understand portions of it and have an excuse to read it.
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PM
All i keep hearing is "Milton Bradley is going to be hitting soon." What are we at the end of June and Milton's stat line sets at .243 BA, .354 OBP, .744 OPS with 5 HR, and 16 RBI, 23 Runs in 164 AB's. Hey its an improvement over .189 right?
Ryan Theriot is hitting .284 with a .339 OBP, with a .757 OPS. With 6 HR, 26 RBI, and 36 runs in 261 AB's.
Bradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's. I am still waiting for him to pass the Juggernaut offensive force Ryan Theriot in HR's, RBI, and Runs. I think any decent offensive player worth his salt could out produce Ryan Theriot by June 23rd. Did we really pay this much money for a guy who performs worse offensively than Ryan Theriot?
While everyone is drooling over his career year in Texas most people miss that Bradley has a career .822 OPS, only once ever got to 20 HR's, and only twice in his career managed to get above 70 RBI. So basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer. Milton isn't gifted with great power and he has never been a proven RBI producer. Right now he is on pace 14 HR and 44 RBI, fucking Matt Murton could do better than that. But he is gonna heat up anytime now, start clobbering HR's (which he doesn't do) and start knocking in tons of runs (which he has never done). Keep believing in Milton Bradley, all i see is a average player at best getting paid to act like a better baseball player than he really is. At least he has gone from "sucks ass" to "passable" but if your expecting more than that your gonna be disappointed.
I think the Cubs need to bust out the RBI-O-Meter for Bradley and see if he can hit 20 RBI before the All-Star break. God damn that's just pathetic thinking about it, and people still are on the Bradley band wagon?
"We"? You speak French now?
My own issues with Bradley's brain farts notwithstanding, he has a proven record as a damn fine hitter. Save the angst for the Clusterfuck thread.
Comparing Milton Bradley's stats to Ryan Theriot's anomolous HR stats is pretty outrageously dumb.
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PMBradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's.
He did? When? I don't remember him telling us that.
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PMSo basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer.
A 100 OPS+ is actually the definition of league average, and probably the best overall measure of a hitter. Now, Milton has put up a 93 OPS+ so far this season. That's below league average and not good. I don't think anyone is arguing that is good.
The point is that over his last 3 seasons, Milton put up an OPS+ of 143. That's considerably better than league average. For comparison's sake, Bobby Abreu put up a 120 and Raul Ibanez put up a 123.
It's more reasonable to expect that
going forward, Milton's production will be more in line with what he did the last 3 years, than what he's done in 164 ABs. And maybe he'll even hit better than that, and get back to his career average production.
As for home runs and RBIs, more home runs would definitely be a welcome sight. But using RBIs to measure a player's worth is dumb. Were you mad at Derrek Lee for only driving in 107 runs in his otherwise awesome 2005?
Quote from: RV on June 24, 2009, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PMBradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's.
He did? When? I don't remember him telling us that.
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PMSo basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer.
A 100 OPS+ is actually the definition of league average, and probably the best overall measure of a hitter. Now, Milton has put up a 93 OPS+ so far this season. That's below league average and not good. I don't think anyone is arguing that is good.
The point is that over his last 3 seasons, Milton put up an OPS+ of 143. That's considerably better than league average. For comparison's sake, Bobby Abreu put up a 120 and Raul Ibanez put up a 123.
It's more reasonable to expect that going forward, Milton's production will be more in line with what he did the last 3 years, than what he's done in 164 ABs. And maybe he'll even hit better than that, and get back to his career average production.
As for home runs and RBIs, more home runs would definitely be a welcome sight. But using RBIs to measure a player's worth is dumb. Were you mad at Derrek Lee for only driving in 107 runs in his otherwise awesome 2005?
Mark Grace drove in 4 runs in June of 1998. Mainly because the guy in front of him in the order juiced 20 over the fence that month.
Thanks a lot, guys who told MikeC to stick to talking about baseball. Thanks a fucking LOT.
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PM
All i keep hearing is "Milton Bradley is going to be hitting soon." What are we at the end of June and Milton's stat line sets at .243 BA, .354 OBP, .744 OPS with 5 HR, and 16 RBI, 23 Runs in 164 AB's. Hey its an improvement over .189 right?
Ryan Theriot is hitting .284 with a .339 OBP, with a .757 OPS. With 6 HR, 26 RBI, and 36 runs in 261 AB's.
Bradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's. I am still waiting for him to pass the Juggernaut offensive force Ryan Theriot in HR's, RBI, and Runs. I think any decent offensive player worth his salt could out produce Ryan Theriot by June 23rd. Did we really pay this much money for a guy who performs worse offensively than Ryan Theriot?
While everyone is drooling over his career year in Texas most people miss that Bradley has a career .822 OPS, only once ever got to 20 HR's, and only twice in his career managed to get above 70 RBI. So basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer. Milton isn't gifted with great power and he has never been a proven RBI producer. Right now he is on pace 14 HR and 44 RBI, fucking Matt Murton could do better than that. But he is gonna heat up anytime now, start clobbering HR's (which he doesn't do) and start knocking in tons of runs (which he has never done). Keep believing in Milton Bradley, all i see is a average player at best getting paid to act like a better baseball player than he really is. At least he has gone from "sucks ass" to "passable" but if your expecting more than that your gonna be disappointed.
I think the Cubs need to bust out the RBI-O-Meter for Bradley and see if he can hit 20 RBI before the All-Star break. God damn that's just pathetic thinking about it, and people still are on the Bradley band wagon?
Stick to politics.
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PM
All i keep hearing is "Milton Bradley is going to be hitting soon." What are we at the end of June and Milton's stat line sets at .243 BA, .354 OBP, .744 OPS with 5 HR, and 16 RBI, 23 Runs in 164 AB's. Hey its an improvement over .189 right?
Ryan Theriot is hitting .284 with a .339 OBP, with a .757 OPS. With 6 HR, 26 RBI, and 36 runs in 261 AB's.
Bradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's. I am still waiting for him to pass the Juggernaut offensive force Ryan Theriot in HR's, RBI, and Runs. I think any decent offensive player worth his salt could out produce Ryan Theriot by June 23rd. Did we really pay this much money for a guy who performs worse offensively than Ryan Theriot?
While everyone is drooling over his career year in Texas most people miss that Bradley has a career .822 OPS, only once ever got to 20 HR's, and only twice in his career managed to get above 70 RBI. So basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer. Milton isn't gifted with great power and he has never been a proven RBI producer. Right now he is on pace 14 HR and 44 RBI, fucking Matt Murton could do better than that. But he is gonna heat up anytime now, start clobbering HR's (which he doesn't do) and start knocking in tons of runs (which he has never done). Keep believing in Milton Bradley, all i see is a average player at best getting paid to act like a better baseball player than he really is. At least he has gone from "sucks ass" to "passable" but if your expecting more than that your gonna be disappointed.
I think the Cubs need to bust out the RBI-O-Meter for Bradley and see if he can hit 20 RBI before the All-Star break. God damn that's just pathetic thinking about it, and people still are on the Bradley band wagon?
RBI's are one of the most flawed counting stats out there. They are extremely dependent on what people in other parts of the order do. That's why most baseball analysts tend to ignore them in favor of OPS at a minimum.
Look, we all know that Bradley started the year in a terrible slump, OK? Howver, he's always been a streaky hitter. He will end up with significantly better numbers this year than he has now, in terms of rate stats. His numbers will be better than Theriot's by year end, except maybe for runs scored, which is also a fairly meaningless statistic. He'll end up with much better numbers than Matt Murton, and I say that as a guy who thought the Cubs mishandled Murton terribly.
This may help: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=bradlmi01&year=2009&t=b
You may notice that his BABIP in April was .091 (!!!) Since we're relying on such a small sample size (192 PA, 164 AB), if his BABIP simply was at a league average level (.300) he'd have gotten 7 more hits, which would have raised his BA to .287, OBP to .369, and SLG to at least .433. If his OPS were over .800, given how badly it seems he's played, would you be satisfied then? I mean, that would be an .800 OPS before he even got hot.
EDIT: I see a few more people responded before I could finish my long-winded post. RV made some excellent points.
Three things, MikeC.
First, what RV said. Second, what Morph said.
Third, Ryan Theriot has had about 100 more PA this year. So, using counting statistics like Runs, RBIs, and HR to draw a comparison between he and Bradley is bad form.
Fourth, what TDubbs said. I know, that's one more than I promised, but I rarely have any reason to agree with him outside of Mom's Basement.
Quote from: RV on June 24, 2009, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PMBradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's.
He did? When? I don't remember him telling us that.
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PMSo basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer.
A 100 OPS+ is actually the definition of league average, and probably the best overall measure of a hitter. Now, Milton has put up a 93 OPS+ so far this season. That's below league average and not good. I don't think anyone is arguing that is good.
The point is that over his last 3 seasons, Milton put up an OPS+ of 143. That's considerably better than league average. For comparison's sake, Bobby Abreu put up a 120 and Raul Ibanez put up a 123.
It's more reasonable to expect that going forward, Milton's production will be more in line with what he did the last 3 years, than what he's done in 164 ABs. And maybe he'll even hit better than that, and get back to his career average production.
As for home runs and RBIs, more home runs would definitely be a welcome sight. But using RBIs to measure a player's worth is dumb. Were you mad at Derrek Lee for only driving in 107 runs in his otherwise awesome 2005?
Just for context...
OPS+ is adjusted for park factors and position. It doesn't compare catchers to 3B. It doesn't matter if you play your home games at Minute Maid or Citi Field. Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Another thing...OPS+ is a nice, easy stat. It is by no means a complete stat, and one could argue that no stat by itself should be used in isolation. Context.
Quote from: Fork on June 24, 2009, 03:00:05 PM
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PM
All i keep hearing is "Milton Bradley is going to be hitting soon." What are we at the end of June and Milton's stat line sets at .243 BA, .354 OBP, .744 OPS with 5 HR, and 16 RBI, 23 Runs in 164 AB's. Hey its an improvement over .189 right?
Ryan Theriot is hitting .284 with a .339 OBP, with a .757 OPS. With 6 HR, 26 RBI, and 36 runs in 261 AB's.
Bradley has told the fans that even though he might not play as many games as other players he will do just as much or more in less AB's. I am still waiting for him to pass the Juggernaut offensive force Ryan Theriot in HR's, RBI, and Runs. I think any decent offensive player worth his salt could out produce Ryan Theriot by June 23rd. Did we really pay this much money for a guy who performs worse offensively than Ryan Theriot?
While everyone is drooling over his career year in Texas most people miss that Bradley has a career .822 OPS, only once ever got to 20 HR's, and only twice in his career managed to get above 70 RBI. So basically we are going to pay 30 million for a league average RFer. Milton isn't gifted with great power and he has never been a proven RBI producer. Right now he is on pace 14 HR and 44 RBI, fucking Matt Murton could do better than that. But he is gonna heat up anytime now, start clobbering HR's (which he doesn't do) and start knocking in tons of runs (which he has never done). Keep believing in Milton Bradley, all i see is a average player at best getting paid to act like a better baseball player than he really is. At least he has gone from "sucks ass" to "passable" but if your expecting more than that your gonna be disappointed.
I think the Cubs need to bust out the RBI-O-Meter for Bradley and see if he can hit 20 RBI before the All-Star break. God damn that's just pathetic thinking about it, and people still are on the Bradley band wagon?
"We"? You speak French now?
My own issues with Bradley's brain farts notwithstanding, he has a proven record as a damn fine hitter. Save the angst for the Clusterfuck thread.
Bradley's posing after his brain fart got me pissed off at him, but now that has worn off. Hitting wise Bradley has come around and one would think he will approach his career norms this season.
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Just for context...
OPS+ is adjusted for park factors and position. It doesn't compare catchers to 3B. It doesn't matter if you play your home games at Minute Maid or Citi Field. Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Another thing...OPS+ is a nice, easy stat. It is by no means a complete stat, and one could argue that no stat by itself should be used in isolation. Context.
Oleg is right, although you can get a little context by comparing the OPS+ to that of other players at the position.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-burdens-of-being-average/
2007 OPS+ by position
Pos Mean Median
C 86 83
1B 115 108
2B 96 100
3B 109 101
SS 94 94
RF 111 105
CF 97 88
LF 107 101Edit: I misread Oleg's post to say "OPS+ is adjusted for park factors
but not position."
I am pretty sure OPS+ is not adjusted for position or the median of each position would be 100.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2009, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Just for context...
OPS+ is adjusted for park factors and position. It doesn't compare catchers to 3B. It doesn't matter if you play your home games at Minute Maid or Citi Field. Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Another thing...OPS+ is a nice, easy stat. It is by no means a complete stat, and one could argue that no stat by itself should be used in isolation. Context.
Oleg is right, although you can get a little context by comparing the OPS+ to that of other players at the position.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-burdens-of-being-average/
2007 OPS+ by position
Pos Mean Median
C 86 83
1B 115 108
2B 96 100
3B 109 101
SS 94 94
RF 111 105
CF 97 88
LF 107 101
Quote from: cml on June 24, 2009, 03:54:52 PM
I am pretty sure OPS+ is not adjusted for position or the median of each position would be 100.
I thought the same thing. From the article:
Quote
(Aside: For this little study, any player who spends at least half his games as a center fielder had all of his plate appearances count toward this sample, so long as he accrued more than 100 plate appearances. So guys who played multiple positions, like Ryan Freel, had all of their hitting stats counted toward the position at which they played most often. Not a perfect system by any means.)
I think that may take care of the disparity.
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2009, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Just for context...
OPS+ is adjusted for park factors and position. It doesn't compare catchers to 3B. It doesn't matter if you play your home games at Minute Maid or Citi Field. Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Another thing...OPS+ is a nice, easy stat. It is by no means a complete stat, and one could argue that no stat by itself should be used in isolation. Context.
Oleg is right, although you can get a little context by comparing the OPS+ to that of other players at the position.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-burdens-of-being-average/
2007 OPS+ by position
Pos Mean Median
C 86 83
1B 115 108
2B 96 100
3B 109 101
SS 94 94
RF 111 105
CF 97 88
LF 107 101
Quote from: cml on June 24, 2009, 03:54:52 PM
I am pretty sure OPS+ is not adjusted for position or the median of each position would be 100.
I thought the same thing. From the article:
Quote
(Aside: For this little study, any player who spends at least half his games as a center fielder had all of his plate appearances count toward this sample, so long as he accrued more than 100 plate appearances. So guys who played multiple positions, like Ryan Freel, had all of their hitting stats counted toward the position at which they played most often. Not a perfect system by any means.)
I think that may take care of the disparity.
The OPS+ number for an individual player is not affected by the positon he plays. That article is attempting to explain how positional averages are calculated and is really meant for the hard-core SABR geeks. I doubt if most fans care whther Ryan Freel's numbers get lumped in with centerfielders or thirdbasemen.
Quote from: cml on June 24, 2009, 04:08:11 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2009, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Just for context...
OPS+ is adjusted for park factors and position. It doesn't compare catchers to 3B. It doesn't matter if you play your home games at Minute Maid or Citi Field. Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Another thing...OPS+ is a nice, easy stat. It is by no means a complete stat, and one could argue that no stat by itself should be used in isolation. Context.
Oleg is right, although you can get a little context by comparing the OPS+ to that of other players at the position.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-burdens-of-being-average/
2007 OPS+ by position
Pos Mean Median
C 86 83
1B 115 108
2B 96 100
3B 109 101
SS 94 94
RF 111 105
CF 97 88
LF 107 101
Quote from: cml on June 24, 2009, 03:54:52 PM
I am pretty sure OPS+ is not adjusted for position or the median of each position would be 100.
I thought the same thing. From the article:
Quote
(Aside: For this little study, any player who spends at least half his games as a center fielder had all of his plate appearances count toward this sample, so long as he accrued more than 100 plate appearances. So guys who played multiple positions, like Ryan Freel, had all of their hitting stats counted toward the position at which they played most often. Not a perfect system by any means.)
I think that may take care of the disparity.
The OPS+ number for an individual player is not affected by the positon he plays. That article is attempting to explain how positional averages are calculated and is really meant for the hard-core SABR geeks. I doubt if most fans care whther Ryan Freel's numbers get lumped in with centerfielders or thirdbasemen.
You're right. However, I do think it explains why the OPS+ mean isn't 100.
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 04:11:22 PM
Quote from: cml on June 24, 2009, 04:08:11 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2009, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Just for context...
OPS+ is adjusted for park factors and position. It doesn't compare catchers to 3B. It doesn't matter if you play your home games at Minute Maid or Citi Field. Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Another thing...OPS+ is a nice, easy stat. It is by no means a complete stat, and one could argue that no stat by itself should be used in isolation. Context.
Oleg is right, although you can get a little context by comparing the OPS+ to that of other players at the position.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-burdens-of-being-average/
2007 OPS+ by position
Pos Mean Median
C 86 83
1B 115 108
2B 96 100
3B 109 101
SS 94 94
RF 111 105
CF 97 88
LF 107 101
Quote from: cml on June 24, 2009, 03:54:52 PM
I am pretty sure OPS+ is not adjusted for position or the median of each position would be 100.
I thought the same thing. From the article:
Quote
(Aside: For this little study, any player who spends at least half his games as a center fielder had all of his plate appearances count toward this sample, so long as he accrued more than 100 plate appearances. So guys who played multiple positions, like Ryan Freel, had all of their hitting stats counted toward the position at which they played most often. Not a perfect system by any means.)
I think that may take care of the disparity.
The OPS+ number for an individual player is not affected by the positon he plays. That article is attempting to explain how positional averages are calculated and is really meant for the hard-core SABR geeks. I doubt if most fans care whther Ryan Freel's numbers get lumped in with centerfielders or thirdbasemen.
You're right. However, I do think it explains why the OPS+ mean isn't 100.
Get a room, statfaggots.
Quote from: MAD on June 24, 2009, 04:31:31 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 04:11:22 PM
Quote from: cml on June 24, 2009, 04:08:11 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2009, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Just for context...
OPS+ is adjusted for park factors and position. It doesn't compare catchers to 3B. It doesn't matter if you play your home games at Minute Maid or Citi Field. Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Another thing...OPS+ is a nice, easy stat. It is by no means a complete stat, and one could argue that no stat by itself should be used in isolation. Context.
Oleg is right, although you can get a little context by comparing the OPS+ to that of other players at the position.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-burdens-of-being-average/
2007 OPS+ by position
Pos Mean Median
C 86 83
1B 115 108
2B 96 100
3B 109 101
SS 94 94
RF 111 105
CF 97 88
LF 107 101
Quote from: cml on June 24, 2009, 03:54:52 PM
I am pretty sure OPS+ is not adjusted for position or the median of each position would be 100.
I thought the same thing. From the article:
Quote
(Aside: For this little study, any player who spends at least half his games as a center fielder had all of his plate appearances count toward this sample, so long as he accrued more than 100 plate appearances. So guys who played multiple positions, like Ryan Freel, had all of their hitting stats counted toward the position at which they played most often. Not a perfect system by any means.)
I think that may take care of the disparity.
The OPS+ number for an individual player is not affected by the positon he plays. That article is attempting to explain how positional averages are calculated and is really meant for the hard-core SABR geeks. I doubt if most fans care whther Ryan Freel's numbers get lumped in with centerfielders or thirdbasemen.
You're right. However, I do think it explains why the OPS+ mean isn't 100.
Get a room, statfaggots.
Regardless of the metric you use, Ryan Freel sucks.
Quote from: MikeC on June 24, 2009, 02:47:09 PM
I think any decent offensive player worth his salt could out produce Ryan Theriot by June 23rd. Did we really pay this much money for a guy who performs worse offensively than Ryan Theriot?
Everyone else has already piled on you, but OBP and SLG aren't equal, so you can't just compare OPS straight-up. Bradley's OBP is a good bit higher than Theriot's, which has made him more valuable.
Yes, it's sad that an elven shortstop has slugged more than Bradley (to this point in the season), but it's not true that Theriot has been a better offensive player, even with Bradley's struggles.
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Not exactly.
OPS+ doesn't actually directly compare a player's OPS to league average OPS.
Rather, the ratio of a player's ballpark-adjusted OBP over league OBP is added to the ratio of his ballpark-adjusted SLG over league SLG, and the sum normalized to 100:
OPS+ = 100 * ( (OBP / league OBP) + (SLG / league SLG) - 1)
Say, for sake of easy math, league OBP and SLG are both .400, and league OPS therefore: .400 + .400 = .800...
A player whose park-adjusted OBP and SLG are both 50% better than these league averages (.600 each) would have an OPS that is also 50% better than the league (.600 + .600 = 1.200 = .800*1.5).
His OPS+, however, would be...
100*((.600/.400)+(.600/.400)-1) = 200
...a full 100% higher than league average.
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2009, 03:15:29 PM
He'll end up with much better numbers than Matt Murton, and I say that as a guy who thought the Cubs mishandled Murton terribly.
THI
They should have handled Red like they did Berut before they shipped him out. Surrounding his head with punches in the dugout and etc... I mean, they traded Murton for Rich Harden. Hell if they'd treated him nicer they may have gotten Johan Santana or some shit.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 24, 2009, 07:53:10 PM
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2009, 03:15:29 PM
He'll end up with much better numbers than Matt Murton, and I say that as a guy who thought the Cubs mishandled Murton terribly.
THI
They should have handled Red like they did Berut before they shipped him out. Surrounding his head with punches in the dugout and etc... I mean, they traded Murton for Rich Harden. Hell if they'd treated him nicer they may have gotten Johan Santana or some shit.
Fair enough, Ape X. They did get some value for him in a trade.
He is good at breaking bats over his leg at least.
Oh, wait.
Quote from: TDubbs on June 25, 2009, 07:58:34 AM
He is good at breaking bats over his leg at least.
Oh, wait.
That was a bit embarrassing. I liked how Len and Bob were (rightly) saying if you're going to break a bat, you have to really commit to breaking it.
Statfags. All of your mothers need 9 months to shit.
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2009, 09:15:26 AM
Statfags. All of your mothers need 9 months to shit.
Are you suggesting that we were all born through our mothers' anal passages rather than the usual vaginal birth? Moreover, does this imply in some way that we are, in essence, fecal matter rather than people? I'm confused.
Quote from: Tank on June 24, 2009, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Not exactly.
OPS+ doesn't actually directly compare a player's OPS to league average OPS.
Rather, the ratio of a player's ballpark-adjusted OBP over league OBP is added to the ratio of his ballpark-adjusted SLG over league SLG, and the sum normalized to 100:
OPS+ = 100 * ( (OBP / league OBP) + (SLG / league SLG) - 1)
Say, for sake of easy math, league OBP and SLG are both .400, and league OPS therefore: .400 + .400 = .800...
A player whose park-adjusted OBP and SLG are both 50% better than these league averages (.600 each) would have an OPS that is also 50% better than the league (.600 + .600 = 1.200 = .800*1.5).
His OPS+, however, would be...
100*((.600/.400)+(.600/.400)-1) = 200
...a full 100% higher than league average.
Interesting. So, a 144 OPS+ would mean that the player OPSed roughly 22% better than league average? That would make more sense.
My SaberOPS+ is roughly 95, so, there's that.
Quote from: morpheus on June 25, 2009, 09:19:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2009, 09:15:26 AM
Statfags. All of your mothers need 9 months to shit.
Are you suggesting that we were all born through our mothers' anal passages rather than the usual vaginal birth? Moreover, does this imply in some way that we are, in essence, fecal matter rather than people? I'm confused.
You're a faggot and you have absolutely nothing to add to this discussion. You're not funny and you're not clever. I don't have a problem with people disagreeing me as long as they're one of my sycophants 99 percent of the time, but someone like with you objective analysis and statistics proving me wrong? You're a faggot.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/bradley-grabs-some-bench.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/bradley-grabs-some-bench.html)
QuoteManager Lou Piniella has benched Bradley today against Detroit, and said the mercurial outfielder probably won't play on Friday either.
"Let's just call it a day off for today," Piniella said, adding Bradley will play on Saturday and Sunday "for sure."
Call it what you want, but it's still a benching. Bradley is hitting .205 against right-handers with 30 strikeouts in 117 at-bats.The Cubs face left-handers Mark Buehrle and John Danks on Saturday and Sunday.
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 25, 2009, 02:04:24 PM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/bradley-grabs-some-bench.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/bradley-grabs-some-bench.html)
QuoteManager Lou Piniella has benched Bradley today against Detroit, and said the mercurial outfielder probably won't play on Friday either.
"Let's just call it a day off for today," Piniella said, adding Bradley will play on Saturday and Sunday "for sure."
Call it what you want, but it's still a benching. Bradley is hitting .205 against right-handers with 30 strikeouts in 117 at-bats.The Cubs face left-handers Mark Buehrle and John Danks on Saturday and Sunday.
Thigh. Bruise.
Quote from: Oleg on June 25, 2009, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: Tank on June 24, 2009, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.
Not exactly.
OPS+ doesn't actually directly compare a player's OPS to league average OPS.
Rather, the ratio of a player's ballpark-adjusted OBP over league OBP is added to the ratio of his ballpark-adjusted SLG over league SLG, and the sum normalized to 100:
OPS+ = 100 * ( (OBP / league OBP) + (SLG / league SLG) - 1)
Say, for sake of easy math, league OBP and SLG are both .400, and league OPS therefore: .400 + .400 = .800...
A player whose park-adjusted OBP and SLG are both 50% better than these league averages (.600 each) would have an OPS that is also 50% better than the league (.600 + .600 = 1.200 = .800*1.5).
His OPS+, however, would be...
100*((.600/.400)+(.600/.400)-1) = 200
...a full 100% higher than league average.
Interesting. So, a 144 OPS+ would mean that the player OPSed roughly 22% better than league average? That would make more sense.
Something like that.
Except, a less eye-popping number like that may understate just how much better this player actually is versus the average player in real baseball terms.
I mean, for sake of context, a full-season OPS+ at 150 or over is
really fucking good—orders of magnitude better than the average player, colloquially speaking.
A season OPS+ over 150 easily puts a player among the top 10 batters across baseball each year (often enough top 5; maybe only top 15 or top 20 at the height of the steroid era).
By the same token, a season OPS+ of 200 or above is beyond elite.
Since 1901, there have only been 17 batters who've managed to put up a full-season OPS+ at this level one or more seasons (49 total seasons between them).
The complete list:
Barry Bonds
Mark McGwire
Jeff Bagwell
Frank Thomas
George Brett
Willie McCovey
Mickey Mantle
Norm Cash
Ted Williams
Stan Musial
Lou Gehrig
Jimmie Foxx
Rogers Hornsby
Babe Ruth
Ty Cobb
Honus Wagner
Nap Lajoie
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 25, 2009, 02:04:24 PM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/bradley-grabs-some-bench.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/bradley-grabs-some-bench.html)
QuoteManager Lou Piniella has benched Bradley today against Detroit, and said the mercurial outfielder probably won't play on Friday either.
"Let's just call it a day off for today," Piniella said, adding Bradley will play on Saturday and Sunday "for sure."
Call it what you want, but it's still a benching. Bradley is hitting .205 against right-handers with 30 strikeouts in 117 at-bats.The Cubs face left-handers Mark Buehrle and John Danks on Saturday and Sunday.
Way to bury the lede...
Quote"You know what, it's true," he said with a laugh. "It usually works. This one didn't work."
In the past, Piniella might've chalked it up to being a "Cubbie Occurrence." But on Thursday he officially buried the term he coined in 2007.
Quote from: Tank on June 25, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
A season OPS+ over 150 easily puts a player among the top 10 batters across baseball each year (often enough top 5; maybe only top 15 or top 20 at the height of the steroid era).
By the same token, a season OPS+ of 200 or above is beyond elite.
So, like, this was pretty good?
(http://i43.tinypic.com/mhenu9.jpg)
Quote from: Eli on June 25, 2009, 02:35:09 PM
Quote from: Tank on June 25, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
A season OPS+ over 150 easily puts a player among the top 10 batters across baseball each year (often enough top 5; maybe only top 15 or top 20 at the height of the steroid era).
By the same token, a season OPS+ of 200 or above is beyond elite.
So, like, this was pretty good?
(http://i43.tinypic.com/mhenu9.jpg)
Whose numbers are those? Jeff Kent's?
Quote from: Eli on June 25, 2009, 02:35:09 PM
Quote from: Tank on June 25, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
A season OPS+ over 150 easily puts a player among the top 10 batters across baseball each year (often enough top 5; maybe only top 15 or top 20 at the height of the steroid era).
By the same token, a season OPS+ of 200 or above is beyond elite.
So, like, this was pretty good?
(http://i43.tinypic.com/mhenu9.jpg)
Not as good as what Weebs put up in his softball league. Nor what he put up in his 15 year 2K9 career with the sliders set to "Jesus Christ."
Michael touched so many people..
Quote from: MAD on June 25, 2009, 06:33:32 PM
Michael touched so many people..
Don't talk about yourself in the third person, it only makes you more of a jagoff.
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/did-piniella-and-bradley-have-it-out.html
Quote from: Slak on June 26, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/did-piniella-and-bradley-have-it-out.html
I hope he called up Steve Stone in the booth after and bitched him out.
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Slak on June 26, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/did-piniella-and-bradley-have-it-out.html
I hope he called up Steve Stone in the booth after and bitched him out.
Fuck this guy.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 26, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Slak on June 26, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/did-piniella-and-bradley-have-it-out.html
I hope he called up Steve Stone in the booth after and bitched him out.
Fuck this guy.
I love Milton Bradley and I wish you wouldn't be so mean toward BH.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 26, 2009, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 26, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Slak on June 26, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/did-piniella-and-bradley-have-it-out.html
I hope he called up Steve Stone in the booth after and bitched him out.
Fuck this guy.
I love Milton Bradley and I wish you wouldn't be so mean toward BH.
I meant Steve Stone.
no I didn't
DPD.
Lou speaks. (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2197)
Quote
Cubs manager Lou Piniella explained his tiff with outfielder Milton Bradley during a post-game chat with reporters Friday evening.
Piniella pulled Bradley in the sixth inning and the two exchanged heated words in the clubhouse tunnel. "I told him to take his uniform off," Lou said. "He threw his helmet and smashed a water cooler, water flying all over. I just told him to take his uniform off and go home. I followed him up into the clubhouse, and we exchanged some words." GM Jim Hendry added that he'll have a chat with Bradley on Saturday.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-side-jun27,0,40471.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-side-jun27,0,40471.story)
QuoteBefore throwing his helmet and the sports drink cooler, before getting into a heated exchange with manager Lou Piniella and before being sent home in the sixth inning, Milton Bradley spoke candidly of his feeling of isolation in the Cubs clubhouse.
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 26, 2009, 08:27:54 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-side-jun27,0,40471.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-side-jun27,0,40471.story)
QuoteBefore throwing his helmet and the sports drink cooler, before getting into a heated exchange with manager Lou Piniella and before being sent home in the sixth inning, Milton Bradley spoke candidly of his feeling of isolation in the Cubs clubhouse.
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM (http://www.thecubreporter.com/2009/06/26/milton-bradleys-losing-friends)
This is all PenFoe's fault. He's put way too much pressure on Milton.
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 26, 2009, 08:27:54 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-side-jun27,0,40471.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-side-jun27,0,40471.story)
QuoteBefore throwing his helmet and the sports drink cooler, before getting into a heated exchange with manager Lou Piniella and before being sent home in the sixth inning, Milton Bradley spoke candidly of his feeling of isolation in the Cubs clubhouse.
Boo. Fucking. Hoo.
Apparently DLee and Soriano are among the racists who haven't built a bond with Bradley.
I have no doubt Derosa and Milt would be fast friends, had Hendry not wronged us.
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 11:02:29 PM
I have no doubt Derosa and Milt would be fast friends, had Hendry not wronged us.
THI
More drama than a soap opera starring Jim Edmonds set at a kennel:
Quote"My head's fine," Bradley said. "I never had a problem mentally. Sometimes I react bad about things but I"m(*) an extremely intelligent individual. I don't see why my head wouldn't be clear."
QuoteBradley was surprised Piniella followed him into the clubhouse.
"He told me to get out of here, so I left," Bradley said. "Then he continued to yell at me some more."
Quote"This has been going on for awhile," Piniella said of Bradley's tantrums. "I've talked to the other people, too. The first thing is you don't want people getting hurt. I've talked to a couple other people here rather strongly about it. Yesterday, I was right in doing what I did. I probably should've just stay in the dugout. I heard him mumbling some things and I followed him up. I'm sorry it happened and I wish it hadn't. That's all I can say."
from Muskrat (http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/06/627_bradley_update.html), and the ironic typo (*) is hers.
Suck it, Stoney.
Quote from: CT III on June 26, 2009, 09:02:44 PM
This is all PenFoe's fault. He's put way too much pressure on Milton.
Many a man has faltered living in the shadow of Jock Jones.
I still like Milton Bradley.
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
This is gonna be a pretty nice lil outing, y'all...DANG!
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts instead of a coat of hardened chocolate.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Well played.
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Apparently, Wheezer deemed you a winner. I remain flummoxed.
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Apparently, Wheezer deemed you a winner. I remain flummoxed.
Life is a mystery.
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Apparently, Wheezer deemed you a winner. I remain flummoxed.
Life is a mystery.
"Jimmies" isn't vernacular for condoms from where y'all come from?
Anyway, Dairy Queen did not control the Krunch Kote supply when I was a lad and had to walk to the Stop'n'Chat.
We're called Jimmy hats.
Have you ever seen us?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqe2VmxUiM&feature=related
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 11:36:27 PM
We're called Jimmy hats.
Have you ever seen us?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqe2VmxUiM&feature=related
Here's my vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12mbmoEJ2dg
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
...
Also, google would have been of little help.
O RLY?
http://tinyurl.com/l9b4f9
http://www.crunchcoat.com/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070530185341AAgGS85
http://thedairyport.com/cones.aspx
So, Wheezer was advocating the use of a hard chocolate shell around a sheathed dongpiece. That's clutch. But somewhere on these threads a frustrated JD took notes on a similar experiment with unsatisfying results. Whoever finds that series of posts gets a special link dedicated to them by someone who looks and sounds like me.
Quote from: powen01 on July 27, 2009, 11:40:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 11:36:27 PM
We're called Jimmy hats.
Have you ever seen us?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqe2VmxUiM&feature=related
Here's my vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12mbmoEJ2dg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpPkGZ6zhzA
QuoteYo, it was a brown wallet, it had props numbers, had my jimmy hats, I got to get it, man...
Lord, have mercy
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 11:44:19 PM
So, Wheezer was advocating the use of a hard chocolate shell around a sheathed dongpiece. That's clutch. But somewhere on these threads a frustrated JD took notes on a similar experiment with unsatisfying results. Whoever finds that series of posts gets a special link dedicated to them by someone who looks and sounds like me.
Goddammit, I was advocating Krunch Kote and nothing more.
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 11:55:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 11:44:19 PM
So, Wheezer was advocating the use of a hard chocolate shell around a sheathed dongpiece. That's clutch. But somewhere on these threads a frustrated JD took notes on a similar experiment with unsatisfying results. Whoever finds that series of posts gets a special link dedicated to them by someone who looks and sounds like me.
Goddammit, I was advocating Krunch Kote and nothing more.
With or without Wind Pants?
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Apparently, Wheezer deemed you a winner. I remain flummoxed.
Life is a mystery fantasy.
Cousin Aldo'd.
Quote from: Fork on July 28, 2009, 12:18:55 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Apparently, Wheezer deemed you a winner. I remain flummoxed.
Life is a mystery fantasy.
Cousin Aldo'd.
I assumed Jon was quoting "Like a Prayer."
Madonna Louise Ciccone is like the new Judy Garland with those types.
Quote from: Tank on July 28, 2009, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 28, 2009, 12:18:55 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Apparently, Wheezer deemed you a winner. I remain flummoxed.
Life is a mystery fantasy.
Cousin Aldo'd.
I assumed Jon was quoting "Like a Prayer."
Madonna Louise Ciccone is like the new Judy Garland with those types.
I always saw him more as a Cher type.
Quote from: Fork on July 28, 2009, 12:30:09 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 28, 2009, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 28, 2009, 12:18:55 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Apparently, Wheezer deemed you a winner. I remain flummoxed.
Life is a mystery fantasy.
Cousin Aldo'd.
I assumed Jon was quoting "Like a Prayer."
Madonna Louise Ciccone is like the new Judy Garland with those types.
I always saw him more as a Cher type.
Have you all forgotten that I'm a Bea Arthur type? Now, I can see Fork having a lapse. There are days where he thinks he's dancing for Busby Berkeley, but you Tank...why are you even monitoring the internets?
Quote from: Jon on July 28, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 28, 2009, 12:30:09 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 28, 2009, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 28, 2009, 12:18:55 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on July 27, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on July 27, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 27, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: JD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
I still like Milton Bradley.
I'm with you, JD.
Let's go get a sundae.
I'll bring the sprinkles.
Krunch Kote is more special than jimmies alone.
I'm resisting the urge to google that and, going strictly off of memory...an old Dairy Queen concoction?
Is it anything like Magic Shell?
Not really, IIRC. It was a coat of nuts.
Also, google would have been of little help. But for an arcane memory of mine relating to my first ever-Little League victory and our subsequent trip to DQ, the reference would have, like most of Wheezer's posts, sailed over my head.
Ah. Never really went to DQ as a kid. I would have been more likely to get a hexagram reference than that, then.
Apparently, Wheezer deemed you a winner. I remain flummoxed.
Life is a mystery fantasy.
Cousin Aldo'd.
I assumed Jon was quoting "Like a Prayer."
Madonna Louise Ciccone is like the new Judy Garland with those types.
I always saw him more as a Cher type.
Have you all forgotten that I'm a Bea Arthur type? Now, I can see Fork having a lapse. There are days where he thinks he's dancing for Busby Berkeley, but you Tank...why are you even monitoring the internets?
If I'm not, how do you explain that camera up there?
Fuck you, PenStone
OBP is up to .390 on the season.
Quote from: Eli on July 30, 2009, 02:29:17 PM
OBP is up to .390 on the season.
CLUBHOUSE. CANCER.
Quote from: ChuckD on July 30, 2009, 02:31:48 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 30, 2009, 02:29:17 PM
OBP is up to .390 on the season.
CLUBHOUSE. CANCER.
His OBP is .459 this month...
before today. Fuck you, PenFucker.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on July 30, 2009, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 30, 2009, 02:31:48 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 30, 2009, 02:29:17 PM
OBP is up to .390 on the season.
CLUBHOUSE. CANCER.
His OBP is .459 this month...before today. Fuck you, PenFucker.
Hey, I said I was rooting for this. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg182143#msg182143)
Quote from: Eli on July 30, 2009, 02:29:17 PM
OBP is up to .390 on the season.
How do you get on 39% of a base. I've never understood that.
Bang.
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
You're fun to be around.
Quote from: Slak on August 12, 2009, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
You're fun to be around.
What would the complaint be if he was putting up .400/.542/.500/1.014 all season? Ah yes, "His defense is killing us! Wahhh!!"
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
If he had been hitting second all year, nobody would care that he hasn't had any power. Of course, it would take Lou the better part of the first half to finally get Soriano out of the leadoff spot and realize OBP at the top of the order leads to more runs. Too bad he's already forgotten that and put Theriot at leadoff. The bottom of the order has been terrible all year. There's no reason to remove your second best OBP guy (Fukudome) from the leadoff spot just to maybe get more production from the 5-8. Put him back at leadoff, bunch up your quality hitters and try to get as many runs as you can each game from 1-4.
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
If he had been hitting second all year, nobody would care that he hasn't had any power. Of course, it would take Lou the better part of the first half to finally get Soriano out of the leadoff spot and realize OBP at the top of the order leads to more runs. Too bad he's already forgotten that and put Theriot at leadoff. The bottom of the order has been terrible all year. There's no reason to remove your second best OBP guy (Fukudome) from the leadoff spot just to maybe get more production from the 5-8. Put him back at leadoff, bunch up your quality hitters and try to get as many runs as you can each game from 1-4.
I think Bradley hitting fifth in this lineup was predicated on his .563 SLG and 163 OPS+ last year with Texas, even though they are deviant from his career norms of .452 and 117. I can't hardly fault Lou too much for that, but I do fault him for waiting this long to move him up to second.
I agree with Fukudome over Theriot in the leadoff spot, though. In fact, I heart it completely. If only Geo were alive to help out the middle of the lineup.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
If he had been hitting second all year, nobody would care that he hasn't had any power. Of course, it would take Lou the better part of the first half to finally get Soriano out of the leadoff spot and realize OBP at the top of the order leads to more runs. Too bad he's already forgotten that and put Theriot at leadoff. The bottom of the order has been terrible all year. There's no reason to remove your second best OBP guy (Fukudome) from the leadoff spot just to maybe get more production from the 5-8. Put him back at leadoff, bunch up your quality hitters and try to get as many runs as you can each game from 1-4.
This is the most RIGHT Weebs has ever managed to cram into one post.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Chuck - 1, Weebs - 0.
That is the last time I read "Chuck" and assume it's the stupid one.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on August 12, 2009, 09:55:06 AM
Quote from: Slak on August 12, 2009, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
You're fun to be around.
What would the complaint be if he was putting up .400/.542/.500/1.014 all season? Ah yes, "His defense is killing us! Wahhh!!"
Wouldn't be any complaint at all. I might of made fun of him for tossing that ball in the stands against the Twins though.
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
If he had been hitting second all year, nobody would care that he hasn't had any power. Of course, it would take Lou the better part of the first half to finally get Soriano out of the leadoff spot and realize OBP at the top of the order leads to more runs. Too bad he's already forgotten that and put Theriot at leadoff. The bottom of the order has been terrible all year. There's no reason to remove your second best OBP guy (Fukudome) from the leadoff spot just to maybe get more production from the 5-8. Put him back at leadoff, bunch up your quality hitters and try to get as many runs as you can each game from 1-4.
I'm very intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Some might argue that WE aren't paying him AT ALL. Is this the end for Internet Chuck? When he gets FACED into oblivion by Weebs?
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Some might argue that WE aren't paying him AT ALL. Is this the end for Internet Chuck? When he gets FACED into oblivion by Weebs?
Did Kerm just make the same mistake I did?
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Some might argue that WE aren't paying him AT ALL. Is this the end for Internet Chuck? When he gets FACED into oblivion by Weebs?
Did Kerm just make the same mistake I did?
Milton Bradley? More like Milkin' Jim Hendry for an Albradtross-of-a-contract-ley, amirite?
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Some might argue that WE aren't paying him AT ALL. Is this the end for Internet Chuck? When he gets FACED into oblivion by Weebs?
Did Kerm just make the same mistake I did?
If Chuck was being sarcastic, I don't think it's OUR mistake that his sarcasm sounds as completely retarded as his real arguments.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Some might argue that WE aren't paying him AT ALL. Is this the end for Internet Chuck? When he gets FACED into oblivion by Weebs?
Did Kerm just make the same mistake I did?
If Chuck was being sarcastic, I don't think it's OUR mistake that his sarcasm sounds as completely retarded as his real arguments.
I think you should read one letter past "Chuck" and see what's going on here. I figured this out about a minute after my post. You're taking quite a while.
Kerm's got a hard-on for Chuck D too.
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Some might argue that WE aren't paying him AT ALL. Is this the end for Internet Chuck? When he gets FACED into oblivion by Weebs?
Did Kerm just make the same mistake I did?
If Chuck was being sarcastic, I don't think it's OUR mistake that his sarcasm sounds as completely retarded as his real arguments.
I think you should read one letter past "Chuck" and see what's going on here. I figured this out about a minute after my post. You're taking quite a while.
I'M DRUNK OFF RAGEAHOL!
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 01:01:41 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Quote from: Weebs on August 12, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 12, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 12, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 12, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 12, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
In 9 games in August: 12 for 30, .400/.542/.500/1.014.
Love. Splooge. Black man.
Woulda been nice to have that in April, May and June too.
He has a .400 OBP this season, which includes April, May and June. That puts him 12th in the National League. That's really good.
You want numbers? How about Triple Crown categories...
BA - .267 (53rd)
HR - 10 (80th)
RBI - 29 (107th)
AWFUL. AWFUL. AWFUL. AND THOSE RANKS ARE JUST FOR THE NL. AWFUL!
Does a .267 AVG matter that much when he's got a .400 OBP? As for HR, you're correct, his power has been pretty pathetic this year. But RBI are also hardly his fault. He was hitting third for a quite a while and had Soriano's near-.300 OBP in front of him. You can't drive runners in when nobody is on base.
We ain't paying him for excuses. You can drive yourself in with a HR, dammit. And there's no excuse for a Major League hitter to be hitting 267. NO reason.
Some might argue that WE aren't paying him AT ALL. Is this the end for Internet Chuck? When he gets FACED into oblivion by Weebs?
Did Kerm just make the same mistake I did?
If Chuck was being sarcastic, I don't think it's OUR mistake that his sarcasm sounds as completely retarded as his real arguments.
I think you should read one letter past "Chuck" and see what's going on here. I figured this out about a minute after my post. You're taking quite a while.
I'M DRUNK OFF RAGEAHOL!
Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
True, but you shouldn't throw beer on the opponent's CF.
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
True, but you shouldn't throw beer on the opponent's CF.
This. At least not during a game. The window-licking Trixiemale Douchestain who did it wasn't the one who got ejected during the WGN telecast. They kicked Weebs out instead and that dude was standing there in his wristband pointing and laughing. This is among the lower points in my Cub Fandom, personally. It can all change with a sweep of Pissburgh and an extended run against the shitty part of the schedule. But at this moment I don't believe I've been this eager for a season to end since 2002. That year, I was also very, very optimistic about the Bears. FML.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
True, but you shouldn't throw beer on the opponent's CF.
This. At least not during a game. The window-licking Trixiemale Douchestain who did it wasn't the one who got ejected during the WGN telecast. They kicked Weebs out instead and that dude was standing there in his wristband pointing and laughing. This is among the lower points in my Cub Fandom, personally. It can all change with a sweep of Pissburgh and an extended run against the shitty part of the schedule. But at this moment I don't believe I've been this eager for a season to end since 2002. That year, I was also very, very optimistic about the Bears. FML.
Football? Hell no.
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Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
True, but you shouldn't throw beer on the opponent's CF.
This. At least not during a game. The window-licking Trixiemale Douchestain who did it wasn't the one who got ejected during the WGN telecast. They kicked Weebs out instead and that dude was standing there in his wristband pointing and laughing. This is among the lower points in my Cub Fandom, personally. It can all change with a sweep of Pissburgh and an extended run against the shitty part of the schedule. But at this moment I don't believe I've been this eager for a season to end since 2002. That year, I was also very, very optimistic about the Bears. FML.
Football? Hell no.
(http://i26.tinypic.com/w6t94l.png)
Yeah, this too. Just not yet.
Here's a very non-statmankissing scale of my fandom. And where I am with shit today.
^^^^^^^^^^^
BONERTIME
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A bunch of other stuff.
Sammy's Corked Bat Incident
The Juan Cruz Trade
Reading some of Chuck's posts 2005-present
The 1994 Strike
Kerry Wood's Tommy John
This.
September 5, 2001
Greg Maddux signs with Atlanta
The entire 2002 Season
October 1989
October 1984
The 2007 Playoffs
The 2008 Playoffs
Late September 2004
Games 6, 7 2003
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
The window-licking Trixiemale Douchestain who did it wasn't the one who got ejected during the WGN telecast. They kicked Weebs out instead
Wait... OUR WEEBS was the one thrown out?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 13, 2009, 09:45:57 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
The window-licking Trixiemale Douchestain who did it wasn't the one who got ejected during the WGN telecast. They kicked Weebs out instead
Wait... OUR WEEBS was the one thrown out?
Natch. Watch the replay.
The Cubs want other fans to help them identify the beer tossing fan, because he got away.
I heard he looks like this:
(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/profile_images/6712/yelloncard.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsQ3ADqO0A
The Chad on the left with the white hat, shades tucked in his shirt and the wristband is the one who threw it. Weebs is the poor jmoke in the glasses who gets hassled and tossed. He probably did something to deserve it anyway.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:52:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsQ3ADqO0A
That was a pretty good throw.
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 09:56:57 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:52:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsQ3ADqO0A
That was a pretty good throw.
Chad's a playa, son. Why do you think he rocks the sweet sweatband, "Jordan-style" in the Bud Light Bleachers, brah?
I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often.
Lenny Dykstra used to get one dumped on him about every other season.
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 09:56:57 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:52:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsQ3ADqO0A
That was a pretty good throw.
I was going to say - he shortarmed it and hit the target dead on. Impressive.
I LO Loud when I saw that they ejected the wrong guy. The look on Weebs' face was priceless.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
True, but you shouldn't throw beer on the opponent's CF.
This. At least not during a game. The window-licking Trixiemale Douchestain who did it wasn't the one who got ejected during the WGN telecast. They kicked Weebs out instead and that dude was standing there in his wristband pointing and laughing. This is among the lower points in my Cub Fandom, personally. It can all change with a sweep of Pissburgh and an extended run against the shitty part of the schedule. But at this moment I don't believe I've been this eager for a season to end since 2002. That year, I was also very, very optimistic about the Bears. FML.
But beer-throwing at Jim Hendry is permitted.
And I have to admit that while watching that debacle last night at a local bar, I wanted to throw my beer, too.
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 10:08:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
True, but you shouldn't throw beer on the opponent's CF.
This. At least not during a game. The window-licking Trixiemale Douchestain who did it wasn't the one who got ejected during the WGN telecast. They kicked Weebs out instead and that dude was standing there in his wristband pointing and laughing. This is among the lower points in my Cub Fandom, personally. It can all change with a sweep of Pissburgh and an extended run against the shitty part of the schedule. But at this moment I don't believe I've been this eager for a season to end since 2002. That year, I was also very, very optimistic about the Bears. FML.
But beer-throwing at Jim Hendry is permitted.
And I have to admit that while watching that debacle last night at a local bar, I wanted to throw my beer, too.
But not at the Phillies.
The guy in the Phillies jersey that is being held back also got ejected about 30 seconds later for throwing a punch at Weebs.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 13, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 10:08:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
True, but you shouldn't throw beer on the opponent's CF.
This. At least not during a game. The window-licking Trixiemale Douchestain who did it wasn't the one who got ejected during the WGN telecast. They kicked Weebs out instead and that dude was standing there in his wristband pointing and laughing. This is among the lower points in my Cub Fandom, personally. It can all change with a sweep of Pissburgh and an extended run against the shitty part of the schedule. But at this moment I don't believe I've been this eager for a season to end since 2002. That year, I was also very, very optimistic about the Bears. FML.
But beer-throwing at Jim Hendry is permitted.
And I have to admit that while watching that debacle last night at a local bar, I wanted to throw my beer, too.
But not at the Phillies.
No, at the lady on the other side of the bar who asked if the Cubs fly in someone different every night to sing in the 7th-inning stretch.
Seriously, was that really Weebs?
As idiotic as it is for the guy to do that, I found the reaction by the broadcasters typically outsized. I had the radio on when it happened and good gord, you would have thought that somebodyhad stolen JUDD SIROTT'S Toyota Tercel. It gave me flashbacks to Chip Caray's moral indignation when that one asshat stole Chad Kreuter's hat. Just call it like it is, you don't have to go all drama queen about it.
And yes, this sort of thing happened a lot more back in the day, and nobody gave a shit. Not saying it's right--it is in fact pretty wasetful to throw a $6.50 beer away-- but people need to chill out. Holy cripes when the hell dead Deadspin (http://deadspin.com/5336293/stay-classy-cubs-fans-update) anoint themselves the moral police ("Deadspin posse, saddle up, we've got a man's life to ruin." Really?)
Anyway, if anyone has a tape of what turned out to be the first OFFICIAL night game at Wrigley (8/9/88), a game that was broadcast nationally on NBC even though it was a weeknight, you'll see Dyktrska get a beer dumped on him as he chased a ball to the wall. You won't, however, hear Vin Scully and Joe Garagiola (or perhaps it was Costas and Kubek) go all berzerk about it.
And Andy, we know that Al wouldn't have dumped a beer, but rather his homemade iced tea.
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
Quote from: MAD on August 13, 2009, 10:40:44 AM
As idiotic as it is for the guy to do that, I found the reaction by the broadcasters typically outsized. I had the radio on when it happened and good gord, you would have thought that somebodyhad stolen JUDD SIROTT'S Toyota Tercel. It gave me flashbacks to Chip Caray's moral indignation when that one asshat stole Chad Kreuter's hat. Just call it like it is, you don't have to go all drama queen about it.
And yes, this sort of thing happened a lot more back in the day, and nobody gave a shit. Not saying it's right--it is in fact pretty wasetful to throw a $6.50 beer away-- but people need to chill out. Holy cripes when the hell dead Deadspin (http://deadspin.com/5336293/stay-classy-cubs-fans-update) anoint themselves the moral police ("Deadspin posse, saddle up, we've got a man's life to ruin." Really?)
Anyway, if anyone has a tape of what turned out to be the first OFFICIAL night game at Wrigley (8/9/88), a game that was broadcast nationally on NBC even though it was a weeknight, you'll see Dyktrska get a beer dumped on him as he chased a ball to the wall. You won't, however, hear Vin Scully and Joe Garagiola (or perhaps it was Costas and Kubek) go all berzerk about it.
And Andy, we know that Al wouldn't have dumped a beer, but rather his homemade iced tea.
When the Kreuter thing happened my initial reaction wasn't "what a bunch of fucking idiots". It was "they attacked the wrong bullpen."
Victorino was pelted with a bologna sandwich wrapped in wax paper.
And I agree, some of the reaction make it sound like he was nearly killed. It was a total douche move, but tone down the terror alert.
As for Deadspin, AJ Daulerio (editor) is from Philly and has been making efforts to deflect attention from his hometown's antics, so I'm sure whoever wrote that crap about ruining a guy's life is just kissing ass.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
It was a beer in a plastic fucking cup. We're not talking about a cinder block covered in six inch spikes.
I hate people.
Quote from: MAD on August 13, 2009, 10:40:44 AM
As idiotic as it is for the guy to do that, I found the reaction by the broadcasters typically outsized. I had the radio on when it happened and good gord, you would have thought that somebodyhad stolen JUDD SIROTT'S Toyota Tercel. It gave me flashbacks to Chip Caray's moral indignation when that one asshat stole Chad Kreuter's hat. Just call it like it is, you don't have to go all drama queen about it.
And yes, this sort of thing happened a lot more back in the day, and nobody gave a shit. Not saying it's right--it is in fact pretty wasetful to throw a $6.50 beer away-- but people need to chill out. Holy cripes when the hell dead Deadspin (http://deadspin.com/5336293/stay-classy-cubs-fans-update) anoint themselves the moral police ("Deadspin posse, saddle up, we've got a man's life to ruin." Really?)
Anyway, if anyone has a tape of what turned out to be the first OFFICIAL night game at Wrigley (8/9/88), a game that was broadcast nationally on NBC even though it was a weeknight, you'll see Dyktrska get a beer dumped on him as he chased a ball to the wall. You won't, however, hear Vin Scully and Joe Garagiola (or perhaps it was Costas and Kubek) go all berzerk about it.
And Andy, we know that Al wouldn't have dumped a beer, but rather his homemade iced tea.
Deadspin is still patting itself on the back for OMG BREAKING!!!! the HUGEEEE!!!! Josh Hamilton story headlined "The Devil Is Still in Josh Hamilton". "Anointing themselves the moral police" sounds about right.
I'm just thankful that the most pompous of all douchebags, Joe Buck, wasn't calling this game. The faux outrage would have been too much to bear.
Quote from: Waco Kid on August 13, 2009, 10:50:42 AM
I'm just thankful that the most pompous of all douchebags, Joe Buck, wasn't calling this game. The faux outrage would have been too much to bear.
"That is a disgusting act by Weebs!"
I didn't see the game, how did Len and Bob react to it?
Brenly's going to be on Danny Mac's show on The Score a little after 11. Maybe he'll shed some light.
I'd give him $500 to call Matt Spiegel a no-talent douche on the air.
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
So you want me to make a photoshop of a computer for a guy to throw his beer on? Fail at English much?
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 13, 2009, 10:53:03 AM
I didn't see the game, how did Len and Bob react to it?
About the right reaction (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090813&content_id=6401446&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb&partnerId=rss_mlb)
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
So you want me to make a photoshop of a computer for a guy to throw his beer on? Fail at English much?
Let me try again: I would like someone to throw a beer on the computer you use to make photoshops, which would presumably disable said computer machine, thus rendering you unable to further pollute the internet with your unfunniness.
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
So you want me to make a photoshop of a computer for a guy to throw his beer on? Fail at English much?
Let me try again: I would like someone to throw a beer on the computer you use to make photoshops, which would presumably disable said computer machine, thus rendering you unable to further pollute the internet with your unfunniness.
Isn't "computer machine" kind of redundant? You probably could have just gone with one or the other. So let's try this again...
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
So you want me to make a photoshop of a computer for a guy to throw his beer on? Fail at English much?
Let me try again: I would like someone to throw a beer on the computer you use to make photoshops, which would presumably disable said computer machine, thus rendering you unable to further pollute the internet with your unfunniness. Yes.
/fix'd
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
So you want me to make a photoshop of a computer for a guy to throw his beer on? Fail at English much?
Let me try again: I would like someone to throw a beer on the computer you use to make photoshops, which would presumably disable said computer machine, thus rendering you unable to further pollute the internet with your unfunniness.
If it were a computer for only photoshops, that'd be awesome. But if he also had a computer for strictly typing, then he'd just post stuff like his last 900 posts and still make people wish they were eyeless.
Fairly mild reaction in the Philly paper:
In the Cubs' fifth inning, he watched centerfielder Shane Victorino get struck by a beer cup thrown from the bleachers while making a catch on the warning track. Victorino declined to talk about the incident in the clubhouse after the game, but explained his reaction to Comcast SportsNet.
"It was definitely in my face and all over me, you know, it was perfect timing, it was right as the ball was hitting my glove," Victorino said. "I tip my hat off to the guy, he had good timing but he had to leave the park and it's one of those things we can't have happen."
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
So you want me to make a photoshop of a computer for a guy to throw his beer on? Fail at English much?
Let me try again: I would like someone to throw a beer on the computer you use to make photoshops, which would presumably disable said computer machine, thus rendering you unable to further pollute the internet with your unfunniness.
If it were a computer for only photoshops, that'd be awesome. But if he also had a computer for strictly typing, then he'd just post stuff like his last 900 posts and still make people wish they were eyeless.
Not to sound like a broken record, but compared to what?
Your posts? Are you seriously such a dork that you are trying to lord your online forum content over mine? Crawl out of your basement, Dubbs, it's bright outside. Your eyes will adjust, your skin might redden a bit, but you'll quickly find yourself happier and far less of a douchebag.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:12:29 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
So you want me to make a photoshop of a computer for a guy to throw his beer on? Fail at English much?
Let me try again: I would like someone to throw a beer on the computer you use to make photoshops, which would presumably disable said computer machine, thus rendering you unable to further pollute the internet with your unfunniness.
If it were a computer for only photoshops, that'd be awesome. But if he also had a computer for strictly typing, then he'd just post stuff like his last 900 posts and still make people wish they were eyeless.
Not to sound like a broken record, but compared to what? Your posts? Are you seriously such a dork that you are trying to lord your online forum content over mine? Crawl out of your basement, Dubbs, it's bright outside. Your eyes will adjust, your skin might redden a bit, but you'll quickly find yourself happier and far less of a douchebag.
Score.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:12:29 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Quite frankly, anybody who spends about seven bucks on a beer should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
I agree with your argument that the guy should have thrown his beer on your photoshop computer.
So you want me to make a photoshop of a computer for a guy to throw his beer on? Fail at English much?
Let me try again: I would like someone to throw a beer on the computer you use to make photoshops, which would presumably disable said computer machine, thus rendering you unable to further pollute the internet with your unfunniness.
If it were a computer for only photoshops, that'd be awesome. But if he also had a computer for strictly typing, then he'd just post stuff like his last 900 posts and still make people wish they were eyeless.
Not to sound like a broken record, but compared to what? Your posts? Are you seriously such a dork that you are trying to lord your online forum content over mine? Crawl out of your basement, Dubbs, it's bright outside. Your eyes will adjust, your skin might redden a bit, but you'll quickly find yourself happier and far less of a douchebag.
*Rolls D12*
*Twiddles thumbs*
I agree with Apex. This is going to get wild and wacky here real quick.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
I agree with Apex. This is going to get wild and wacky here real quick.
Probably not, ChuckD. Unlike a couple of the extremely sad people here, I don't really bleed from my vagina every time somebody tries to insult me.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:21:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
I agree with Apex. This is going to get wild and wacky here real quick.
Probably not, ChuckD. Unlike a couple of the extremely sad people here, I don't really bleed from my vagina every time somebody tries to insult me.
Is it because you're pregnant?
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:21:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
I agree with Apex. This is going to get wild and wacky here real quick.
Probably not, ChuckD. Unlike a couple of the extremely sad people here, I don't really bleed from my vagina every time somebody tries to insult me.
Is it because you're pregnant?
And this is a person who wants to tell me what's funny?
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:21:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
I agree with Apex. This is going to get wild and wacky here real quick.
Probably not, ChuckD. Unlike a couple of the extremely sad people here, I don't really bleed from my vagina every time somebody tries to insult me.
Is it because you're pregnant?
And this is a person who wants to tell me what's funny?
No, you're confusing me with RV. I wouldn't try to tell you you're unfunny as that would almost certainly be tautological.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:21:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
I agree with Apex. This is going to get wild and wacky here real quick.
Probably not, ChuckD. Unlike a couple of the extremely sad people here, I don't really bleed from my vagina every time somebody tries to insult me.
Is it because you're pregnant?
And this is a person who wants to tell me what's funny?
It was in response to your pussy analogy, Carrot Top. And he's killing you every time he posts with that sig. So deal with it or let it rest. You're beat. But I need to hear from TDubbs in order to have closure to this anecdote.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:21:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
I agree with Apex. This is going to get wild and wacky here real quick.
Probably not, ChuckD. Unlike a couple of the extremely sad people here, I don't really bleed from my vagina every time somebody tries to insult me.
Is it because you're pregnant?
And this is a person who wants to tell me what's funny?
It was in response to your pussy analogy, Carrot Top. And he's killing you every time he posts with that sig. So deal with it or let it rest. You're beat. But I need to hear from TDubbs in order to have closure to this anecdote.
I know what it was in reference to, Apex, but it was just kind of lame. Getting told I'm not funny -- like I ever said I was -- by these jabrones is the equivilent of the National Chastity Association telling somebody that they could improve their game with women.
This is classic Kurt. Telling everyone how thick his skin is while still responding to every slight, no matter how minor.
Kurt: I'm not funny or very helpful, but if you just stop clicking on this thread you will have a better go of it.
How about all you girls take this shit somewhere else?
Quote from: Slak on August 13, 2009, 11:38:56 AM
This is classic Kurt. Telling everyone how thick his skin is while still responding to every slight, no matter how minor.
Kurt: I'm not funny or very helpful, but if you just stop clicking on this thread you will have a better go of it.
And this is classic Desipio -- taking ridiculous shots at me just for posting anything. You're right that I probably shouldn't provoke the short-bussers, but if I didn't have thick skin I would probably have stopped visiting Desipio years ago, kiddo.
Quote from: MAD on August 13, 2009, 11:39:35 AM
How about all you girls take this shit somewhere else?
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 11:41:00 AM
Quote from: Slak on August 13, 2009, 11:38:56 AM
This is classic Kurt. Telling everyone how thick his skin is while still responding to every slight, no matter how minor.
Kurt: I'm not funny or very helpful, but if you just stop clicking on this thread you will have a better go of it.
And this is classic Desipio -- taking ridiculous shots at me just for posting anything. You're right that I probably shouldn't provoke the short-bussers, but if I didn't have thick skin I would probably have stopped visiting Desipio years ago, kiddo.
Or do the opposite. My advice is truly worthless.
Kiddo?
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 11:42:22 AM
Kiddo?
All right, I'll ignore my own advice here and jump in.
I agree that the use of ther word "kiddo" sorta creeped me out.
Back to the beer cup incident. When I saw it my reaction was, "Oh no. They are going to take the run away from us"
Kurt I don't really care if your posts are funny or not. Normally I just skim over them or ignore them altogether and I stay away from GROTA because it's not my thing or whatever.
My only issue (as I pointed out a while back (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6733.msg186973#msg186973)) is that you're leeching your signature from PBF. While image leeching is bad form in general, I find it to be really unfortunate in this case because I actually really enjoy PBF. Seriously, I'm a huge fan (http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8730/photo21x.jpg). And, although I find the comic in your current sig to be humorous as I do with most things from PBF, its recent ubiquity via your posts is killing its humor for me.
Now, there is a remedy for this predicament. I could adblock the image and be done with it and go back to ignoring your posts. And, truly, I would absolutely love to be able to adblock your signature. But if I were to do so, I would inhibit my ability to see the comic when I'm on PBF's site. That, and I just refuse toe adblock anything from the PBF site on principle. So, that's my beef. Not that you're unfunny.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 12:02:08 PM
Kurt I don't really care if your posts are funny or not. Normally I just skim over them or ignore them altogether and I stay away from GROTA because it's not my thing or whatever.
My only issue (as I pointed out a while back (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6733.msg186973#msg186973)) is that you're leeching your signature from PBF. While image leeching is bad form in general, I find it to be really unfortunate in this case because I actually really enjoy PBF. Seriously, I'm a huge fan (http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8730/photo21x.jpg). And, although I find the comic in your current sig to be humorous as I do with most things from PBF, its recent ubiquity via your posts is killing its humor for me.
Now, there is a remedy for this predicament. I could adblock the image and be done with it and go back to ignoring your posts. And, truly, I would absolutely love to be able to adblock your signature. But if I were to do so, I would inhibit my ability to see the comic when I'm on PBF's site. That, and I just refuse toe adblock anything from the PBF site on principle. So, that's my beef. Not that you're unfunny.
And that is a fair cop, ChuckD. Since I'm a douchebag, I should just leave it up and continue to irritate you ... or I could upload it to photobucket so it's no longer an issue of imageleeching which would also continue to irriate you (which in itself I find surprising that you'd be upset by, since not a day goes by that somebody here doesn't do that).
But since I really just had it up there to share how incredibly super-awesome PBF is, which appears to have worked since some of the Desipiots have checked out the website, I have no qualms with taking it down and replacing it with a much less-intrusive signature.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 12:12:14 PM
And that is a fair cop, ChuckD. Since I'm a douchebag, I should just leave it up and continue to irritate you ... or I could upload it to photobucket so it's no longer an issue of imageleeching which would also continue to irriate you (which in itself I find surprising that you'd be upset by, since not a day goes by that somebody here doesn't do that).
Fair enough, but it's not my responsibility to call people on it. The only reason I called
you on it was because it was adversely affecting my enjoyment of something I otherwise enjoy. And, regardless of whether other posters around here do it frequently, you of all people should know better than to image leech.
DPD: Talk about a dick move. He actually pointed out Weebs to the security guards.
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5866/eptsportsmlbexperts6642.jpg)
Quote from: ChuckD on August 13, 2009, 12:47:28 PM
DPD: Talk about a dick move. He actually pointed out Weebs to the security guards.
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5866/eptsportsmlbexperts6642.jpg)
Where can I buy a Cubs vest like the guy up and to the right of weebs?
Would it be possible, just once for Kurt to be involved in a thread that didn't devolve into the sole focus being on Kurt?
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
Quote from: PenFoe on August 13, 2009, 01:33:39 PM
Would it be possible, just once for Kurt to be involved in a thread that didn't devolve into the sole focus being on Kurt?
You might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 01:55:39 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 13, 2009, 01:33:39 PM
Would it be possible, just once for Kurt to be involved in a thread that didn't devolve into the sole focus being on Kurt?
You might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
Right. Because you don't try to steer conversations toward yourself with links to your own awful photoshops in attempt at getting self deprecating humor points. How cruel of this Desipiots to steer the conversation toward Humble Kurt
Quote from: Canadouche on August 12, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on August 12, 2009, 01:17:09 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 12:59:36 PM
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Quote from: Internet Apex on August 12, 2009, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 12, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
This retarded thread is as good a place as any to put this horrific idea: Neifi Perez was a far more useful ballplayer than Aaron Miles.
Neifi could at least turn double plays and he hit lefthanded pitching at a sometimes useful rate. He was bilingual and would translate Larry and Dusty's pearls of wisdom for the Bob Novoas of the world. Miles can do none of these things. None.
I feared this day would come, and it has. We've reached the point where one of Jim's patentedly worthless utility infielders was so awful that we're forced to concede that Neifi Perez may have had some Use by comparison. Neifi Perez. The end is nigh, gentlemen. Hope you've all got things squared away with Atheismo.
How do you feel about the fact that Jose Macias had more worth than Miles?
At this point, even Freddie Bynum had more worth than Miles. At least you could flip Freddie over and rake the infield between innings.
Bynum was even known to occassionally spring a surprise homerun on Cub fans, resulting in this GROTA classic:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/KurtEvans/fbynum.jpg)
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about
you.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag.
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
Can I nominate this thread for worst thread ever?
The Lifetime network just purchased the movie rights to this thread.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say.
I like SKO.
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 02:27:43 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say.
I like SKO.
I think we all do.
Quote from: Slak on August 13, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 02:27:43 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say.
I like SKO.
I think we all do.
Why does every thread have to go back to how much we all love SKO?
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 02:31:53 PM
Quote from: Slak on August 13, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 02:27:43 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say.
I like SKO.
I think we all do.
Why does every thread have to go back to how much we all love SKO?
Aaaaaand... SCENE!
I'm an SKOfaggot.
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about
me, it's about the
topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to
them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about
me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
Dude, chill the fuck out. I hate to sound incredibly juvenille, but you sound like a whiny bitch. Chillax.
And my man-love for SKO had no bearing on the aforementioned statement.
QuoteYou're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
You're perfectly free to respond to RV or anyone else who attacks you. I'll respond to anyone who attacks me. What I won't do is claim that I don't "start bleeding in my vagina whenever someone insults me," while responding to every single attack on what is, after all, a fringe messageboard. And while I won't say you necessarily had hijacking this thread as your intention, by pointing out your Freddy Bynum photoshop, and its complete irrelevance to the topic at hand, I'm just trying to point out the hypocrisy of being up in arms over people making a conversation about you when you
tried to do the very same thing, for self-deprecating humor is about exactly that, yourself, meaning you tried to draw a conversation towards You or your work as the subject.
I'd just like to go on record that I hate PenFoe with the burning fires of a thousand suns.
This thread is the worst.
Quote from: Jon on August 13, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
I'd just like to go on record that I hate PenFoe with the burning fires of a thousand suns.
I had no idea...I'm sorry.
I should have better anticipated this.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
Stop acting like such a pedophile.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
At least SKO isn't a child molesting teacher you sick sonofabitch.
Quote from: Jon on August 13, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
I'd just like to go on record that I hate PenFoe with the burning fires of a thousand suns.
DRLP Bitch! I've wrote this in the shoutbox an hour ago.
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
At least SKO isn't a child molesting teacher you sick sonofabitch.
I believe that's a FACE, you pervert.
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
Stop acting like such a pedophile pederast (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5298.msg187973#msg187973).
Linkage to the other thread being posted in today'd.
Quote from: PenFoe on August 13, 2009, 03:05:50 PM
Quote from: Jon on August 13, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
I'd just like to go on record that I hate PenFoe with the burning fires of a thousand suns.
I had no idea...I'm sorry.
I should have better anticipated this.
I just thought I'd try and take the SKO love down a notch. But I can't hate on SKO. You just seemed a good
Jewish scapegoat target.
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
At least SKO isn't a child molesting teacher you sick sonofabitch.
You're right, Dubbs. I don't even have my degree yet.
Quote from: BH on August 13, 2009, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: Jon on August 13, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
I'd just like to go on record that I hate PenFoe with the burning fires of a thousand suns.
DRLP Bitch! I've wrote this in the shoutbox an hour ago.
Well, we all hate PenFoe. It's only right and natural.
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
Oh good, so we can just blame that dude for everything. That's so much easier than logic.
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
What does this have to do with loving SKO?
ANGER
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
What does this have to do with loving SKO?
Or hating Penfoe.
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
Does this mean I'm guilty by association?
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
What does this have to do with loving SKO?
I hate SKO, fucking bourgeois pig.
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
Quote from: Oleg on August 13, 2009, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
What does this have to do with loving SKO?
I hate SKO, fucking bourgeois pig.
Save that hate for PenFoe, mister.
Quote from: Jon on August 13, 2009, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 13, 2009, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2009, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
What does this have to do with loving SKO?
I hate SKO, fucking bourgeois pig.
Save that hate for PenFoe, mister.
I have enough to go around; however, it subsides the closer I get to magic:20.
And, yes, I love making these threads about ME!
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
At least SKO isn't a child molesting teacher you sick sonofabitch.
Wheras you enjoy date-raping unconscious bull-dykes in order to prove to the world that you aren't a cock-hungry homo.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
At least SKO isn't a child molesting teacher you sick sonofabitch.
Wheras you enjoy date-raping unconscious bull-dykes in order to prove to the world that you aren't a cock-hungry homo.
Shit just got real.
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
At least SKO isn't a child molesting teacher you sick sonofabitch.
Wheras you enjoy date-raping unconscious bull-dykes in order to prove to the world that you aren't a cock-hungry homo.
Shit just got real.
That also might be the funniest shit KE's ever come up with. Kudos.
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 03:01:30 PM
QuoteYou're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
You're perfectly free to respond to RV or anyone else who attacks you. I'll respond to anyone who attacks me. What I won't do is claim that I don't "start bleeding in my vagina whenever someone insults me," while responding to every single attack on what is, after all, a fringe messageboard. And while I won't say you necessarily had hijacking this thread as your intention, by pointing out your Freddy Bynum photoshop, and its complete irrelevance to the topic at hand, I'm just trying to point out the hypocrisy of being up in arms over people making a conversation about you when you tried to do the very same thing, for self-deprecating humor is about exactly that, yourself, meaning you tried to draw a conversation towards You or your work as the subject.
Wrong. Because if I respond to any sort of insult, you and half the people here act as if I just kicked you square in your vaginas. Your ridiculous gang-mentality doesn't negate that fact -- if I say anything in response, this is inevitably what happens. Why? Because it becomes an issue where it's not just me and RV going back and forth... the date rapist T-Douche has to join in, as does anybody else who already doesn't like me. And if I dare to respond to them, it becomes a me-fest. It must be my fault because I don't just take it ... nor do I just go away.
Here's a newsflash - I never posted a link to my photobucket account so you could check out all my brilliant photoshops. Fact is, I've never described them as "brilliant" (which hasn't stopped S-Boxers from pondering about how much I must love them to put them on the internets) and I've rarely even posted any to Desipio. I've also never expressed -- nor do I have -- the belief that someday, you will all love me and think I'm hilarious. Why would I possibly think that?
So, the reality is that this will keep happening. Insult me, I'll insult back. Don't insult me, I'll just participate. But if you think it actually upsets me somehow that some of you are douchebags to me, you are in fact mistaken. If that was the case I would just stop coming here.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 04:32:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 03:01:30 PM
QuoteYou're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
You're perfectly free to respond to RV or anyone else who attacks you. I'll respond to anyone who attacks me. What I won't do is claim that I don't "start bleeding in my vagina whenever someone insults me," while responding to every single attack on what is, after all, a fringe messageboard. And while I won't say you necessarily had hijacking this thread as your intention, by pointing out your Freddy Bynum photoshop, and its complete irrelevance to the topic at hand, I'm just trying to point out the hypocrisy of being up in arms over people making a conversation about you when you tried to do the very same thing, for self-deprecating humor is about exactly that, yourself, meaning you tried to draw a conversation towards You or your work as the subject.
Wrong. Because if I respond to any sort of insult, you and half the people here act as if I just kicked you square in your vaginas. Your ridiculous gang-mentality doesn't negate that fact -- if I say anything in response, this is inevitably what happens. Why? Because it becomes an issue where it's not just me and RV going back and forth... the date rapist T-Douche has to join in, as does anybody else who already doesn't like me. And if I dare to respond to them, it becomes a me-fest. It must be my fault because I don't just take it ... nor do I just go away.
Here's a newsflash - I never posted a link to my photobucket account so you could check out all my brilliant photoshops. Fact is, I've never described them as "brilliant" (which hasn't stopped S-Boxers from pondering about how much I must love them to put them on the internets) and I've rarely even posted any to Desipio. I've also never expressed -- nor do I have -- the belief that someday, you will all love me and think I'm hilarious. Why would I possibly think that?
So, the reality is that this will keep happening. Insult me, I'll insult back. Don't insult me, I'll just participate. But if you think it actually upsets me somehow that some of you are douchebags to me, you are in fact mistaken. If that was the case I would just stop coming here.
Or, you could just let it go and see how it plays out. Just sayin'.
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
Linky?
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Now I know that there are some outspoken atheists here, but I don't think Christ has been piled on as much as BC and Weebs.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Dude, that wasn't even IN this thread. Heaven forbid I make fun of myself, apparently that's against the rules. But it's over. Let's instead talk about how Weebs has yet to deny that the yellow liquid in the plastic cup wasn't even beer.
Sigh
QuoteYou might need to sit down and have a conversation with your idiot friends, Pen. I just popped in here to say that for $6.50, people should be allowed to dump their beer anywhere they want to. 'twas RV who decided to focus instead on me, rather than the conversation at hand.
In other words, if you and your fellow cock-gobblers don't make really idiotic comments at me every time I post, the likelihood of thread-drift in my direction is nil.
By saying that, you don't limit it to This thread. I merely took an example of a thread that wasn't even remotely involved with any of your photoshops, to which you found a way to Post one of your photoshops, and assumed people would laugh at how you were making fun of yourself. The problem is that your "making fun of yourself" wasn't even funny, and people more or less just resented the intrusion of your shitty work onto a thread that was fine without it, however, now you're pissy because people have steered a conversation that wasn't about you into a conversation about you, even though that's EXACTLY what you did in That thread.
Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about me and my motivations. Coincidentally, I resent any post you make on any thread as, no matter what the topic or relevancy of your words, they also are all "shitty intrusions," as you say. But seriously -- stop making it all about me. This is a thread about douchebag Cub fans. We should be talking about you.
It didn't really take that much thought into your "motivations." You posted it and SAID that you were making fun of yourself. Since I assume you want a response to something you post on a messageboard, and that if you're making Fun of something the expected response is laughter, I naturally assumed you posted that in an attempt to be funny. It wasn't funny, however. Had you merely commented on Freddy Bynum or Aaron Miles or whatever the thread was about without harkening back to some terrible joke you made three years ago, expecting to get a laugh because "OMG, LOL KURT, THAT REALLY WAS A TERRIBLE JOKE HAHA!", I'm sure people would have let it pass. But I'll agree that I am a douchebag. I am a psycho off my meds.
/fix'd
So long as I'm not a pissy and overly defensive blogger who can't seem to note the irony in saying how he doesn't get pissy everytime someone insults him all the while taking up several pages of a thread doing just that.
And your photoshops suck.
You're absolutely right, sir. But why would anybody insult me? It's not about me, it's about the topixx!
I just forget sometimes that if somebody -- like RV -- takes an off-topic shot at me, I'm not allowed to respond to it even if he displays the grammatical skills of an autistic child. After all, if I respond to RV, then there will be a pile-on by a few others, and if I respond to them then I'll just be accused about making it all about me ... as if it would ever be about me if you didn't make me the topic, you dopes.
Here's a hint, SKO, seriously: I annoy you? Ignore me! Amazingly, if you ignore me it is extremely unlikely that I will say anything to you or about you, meaning I won't hurt your poor widdle feelings, the threads will never spiral into me-a-thons, and you can stay off your meds without incident! I promise!
At least SKO isn't a child molesting teacher you sick sonofabitch.
Wheras Whereas you enjoy date-raping unconscious bull-dykes in order to prove to the world that you aren't a cock-hungry homo.
What are you, autistic or something? Your atrocious grammar skills are making my gash bleed.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
CHRISTFACED BY MAD
If you ask me, Christ doesn't take nearly enough shit around here.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
For the record, I do think all of you are child molesters.
Open Letter to Milt: Hit some homers or something and please rescue this thread.
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
I've politely emailed this guy about factual errors he's made in his Cubs columns before, errors anyone who actually watches the team wouldn't have made. He couldn't have been a bigger condescending prick in his replies. Mike Bauman = moron
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
CHRISTFACED BY MAD
If you ask me, Christ doesn't take nearly enough shit around here.
He keeps riding away on his bike!
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on August 13, 2009, 05:29:47 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I have no idea what happened in this thread, but when the fuck did I become the guy being hauled out of Wrigley last night?
When the beer thrower pointed you out. Keep up, son.
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
If the 2009 Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be some people who will explain this unhappy event as the result of injuries; to Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Zambrano or Ted Lilly or nagging aches and pains with other players or all of the above.
Others will point to players whose production was well under reasonable expectations. Milton Bradley did nothing in the first half. Alfonso Soriano did not produce like an impact player must. Geovany Soto could not put together anything resembling a suitable encore to his splendid rookie season.
All of these reasons and more are valid explanations. But if the Cubs do not reach the postseason, there will be those who will point to the night of Aug. 12 when the unthinkable occurred at Wrigley Field.
Some will argue that the act of throwing the beer arose from the act of drinking the beer in the first place. Yes, it is distinctly possible that the perpetrator was not completely in the grip of sobriety.
But we shouldn't put the cart before the Clydesdale. No good will come of throwing the beer at the center fielder. No good would come of throwing beer at any of the other eight players, either. But if you could hit, for instance, the second baseman with the beer, your arm would be in Roberto Clemente territory.
You cannot expect to throw the beer and then just skip merrily forward, unencumbered for the rest of life. There will be some sort of consequences -- emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, or the 101st year without winning a World Series."
I've politely emailed this guy about factual errors he's made in his Cubs columns before, errors anyone who actually watches the team wouldn't have made. He couldn't have been a bigger condescending prick in his replies. Mike Bauman = moron
Pics, or it didn't happen.
Seriously though, I would like to read these.
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
Blah blah blah (cut so I can get in under 5000 characters...)
Not a well-written column, but Bauman (I think) is actually satirizing the outrage over this. If you read the whole thing, it sounds like he's feigning Huey-sized anger over wasting the beer.
Huey might even agree that Bauman is trying to channel Mike Royko. But he's not even a poor-man's Royko (which John Kass tries to be). He's the toothless guy living under the Cicero/Stevenson overpass's Kass.
QuoteCHICAGO -- "In heaven there is no beer.
"That's why we drink it here."
Those words, of course, are from a polka song with a tremendous amount of staying power. It indirectly at least connects a religious premise to beer-drinking, which is a nifty maneuver. But the central theme is still the drinking of beer.
And that is where we are today with a basic life lesson that apparently has not been fully learned in some quarters: The beer is supposed to be swallowed, not thrown.
Terrible karma at Wrigley Field on Wednesday night. The beer was thrown, instead of being consumed. This episode will not capture the public imagination in the manner of the billy goat curse, because this episode is not 64 years old. But only more ill fortune can come from it. From the standpoint of bad karma, the guy who threw the beer is no nearer hero status than Steve Bartman.
Let us restate the particulars of this case. It is the fifth inning Wednesday night, a great night near a Great Lake, until the baseball game starts. The Cubs are being clobbered by the Phillies, 12-2. With the bases loaded and one out, Cubs third baseman Jake Fox hits a deep fly ball and Phillies center fielder Shane Victorino retreats to the warning track in left-center.
Just as Victorino makes the catch, he is hit with beer thrown by a fan. This is not a few drops from the bottom of the cup. This is a torrent of beer. This is a full beer, which makes this sorry incident even sorrier. The beer can be sipped or it can be chugged. But it cannot be thrown.
Had Victorino dropped the ball, fan interference would have been called and Fox would have been ruled out. But Victorino is a fine defensive player, and here you must credit him with truly superior concentration. The play was officially ruled a sacrifice fly. But in real-life terms, what was sacrificed was common sense, basic human decency and a perfectly good beer.
Postgame, Victorino wisely stayed above the fray by refusing to comment on the incident. He has not pressed formal charges against the beer-thrower. This may not be a case of legal remedies. This may simply be a case of beer.
Somebody had to apologize on behalf of the Cubs, and manager Lou Piniella stepped up.
"That shouldn't happen," Piniella said. "It's not good sportsmanship and it's not good behavior. We apologize to Victorino and the Phillies for that."
I have seen people smash beer bottles, and then, holding the jagged remains of the bottles by the necks, go after each other. They turned a couple of beer bottles into deadly weapons. But it must be said that, even while these combatants were apparently trying to kill each other with the broken beer bottles, they waited until the bottles were empty before smashing them. Even in the midst of mayhem and violence, this basic law of civilization was still observed. The beer was not wasted.
Quote from: Brownie on August 13, 2009, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
A "national columnist" for MLB.com penned this load of shit today:
"
The guy who threw the beer at Victorino should be doing a lifetime of community service, but he won't and that's the problem. Somebody will have to pay for this.
Blah blah blah (cut so I can get in under 5000 characters...)
Not a well-written column, but Bauman (I think) is actually satirizing the outrage over this. If you read the whole thing, it sounds like he's feigning Huey-sized anger over wasting the beer.
Huey might even agree that Bauman is trying to channel Mike Royko. But he's not even a poor-man's Royko (which John Kass tries to be). He's the toothless guy living under the Cicero/Stevenson overpass's Kass.
QuoteCHICAGO -- "In heaven there is no beer.
"That's why we drink it here."
Those words, of course, are from a polka song with a tremendous amount of staying power. It indirectly at least connects a religious premise to beer-drinking, which is a nifty maneuver. But the central theme is still the drinking of beer.
And that is where we are today with a basic life lesson that apparently has not been fully learned in some quarters: The beer is supposed to be swallowed, not thrown.
Terrible karma at Wrigley Field on Wednesday night. The beer was thrown, instead of being consumed. This episode will not capture the public imagination in the manner of the billy goat curse, because this episode is not 64 years old. But only more ill fortune can come from it. From the standpoint of bad karma, the guy who threw the beer is no nearer hero status than Steve Bartman.
Let us restate the particulars of this case. It is the fifth inning Wednesday night, a great night near a Great Lake, until the baseball game starts. The Cubs are being clobbered by the Phillies, 12-2. With the bases loaded and one out, Cubs third baseman Jake Fox hits a deep fly ball and Phillies center fielder Shane Victorino retreats to the warning track in left-center.
Just as Victorino makes the catch, he is hit with beer thrown by a fan. This is not a few drops from the bottom of the cup. This is a torrent of beer. This is a full beer, which makes this sorry incident even sorrier. The beer can be sipped or it can be chugged. But it cannot be thrown.
Had Victorino dropped the ball, fan interference would have been called and Fox would have been ruled out. But Victorino is a fine defensive player, and here you must credit him with truly superior concentration. The play was officially ruled a sacrifice fly. But in real-life terms, what was sacrificed was common sense, basic human decency and a perfectly good beer.
Postgame, Victorino wisely stayed above the fray by refusing to comment on the incident. He has not pressed formal charges against the beer-thrower. This may not be a case of legal remedies. This may simply be a case of beer.
Somebody had to apologize on behalf of the Cubs, and manager Lou Piniella stepped up.
"That shouldn't happen," Piniella said. "It's not good sportsmanship and it's not good behavior. We apologize to Victorino and the Phillies for that."
I have seen people smash beer bottles, and then, holding the jagged remains of the bottles by the necks, go after each other. They turned a couple of beer bottles into deadly weapons. But it must be said that, even while these combatants were apparently trying to kill each other with the broken beer bottles, they waited until the bottles were empty before smashing them. Even in the midst of mayhem and violence, this basic law of civilization was still observed. The beer was not wasted.
I thought it sounded like satire too, but he might just be a shitty writer.
For the record, I don't date rape the bull dykes that I fuck.
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 05:58:13 PM
For the record, I don't date rape the bull dykes that I fuck.
Yeah, right? Why would you take them out on dates?
Quote from: MAD on August 13, 2009, 06:01:44 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 13, 2009, 05:58:13 PM
For the record, I don't date rape the bull dykes that I fuck.
Yeah, right? Why would you take them out on dates?
Bull dykes need love too.
Quote from: Oleg on August 13, 2009, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
CHRISTFACED BY MAD
If you ask me, Christ doesn't take nearly enough shit around here.
He keeps riding away on his bike!
Christ or Huard?
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2009, 09:52:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsQ3ADqO0A
The Chad on the left with the white hat, shades tucked in his shirt and the wristband is the one who threw it. Weebs is the poor jmoke in the glasses who gets hassled and tossed. He probably did something to deserve it anyway.
I had to wait to get home to see it, and now it's gone. Anyone gots a copy? Fucking Cubs...I can't even enjoy a good beer tossing when they lose.Never mind.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://dl2.glitter-graphics.net/pub/743/743662l45g05d1qv.jpg) (
extremely nsfw).
Quote from: RV on August 13, 2009, 04:48:48 PM
What are you, autistic or something? Your atrocious grammar skills are making my gash bleed.
You're just kind of burying yourself. Misspellings are essentially considered
typographical errors, not grammatical ones. Which you would know if you had the English grammar knowledge of a dyslexic Russian. Dumb-ass.
Godammit Kurt, we've all moved on! This is worse than an Aaron Miles at-bat.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
Thanks a lot Kurt.
At this moment I'm trying to explain to my wife why I visit this site.
"extremely nsfw" or not.
I have never given you grief before but you need to get a fucking grip.
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 09:50:55 PM
Godammit Kurt, we've all moved on! This is worse than an Aaron Miles at-bat.
Miles at bats are over quickly and cause quick stabs of anger and disgust for many things. This is more like a Samardzjiza outing. Just cringe after cringe after forehead slap after cringe.
So, I was away from Desipio most of this afternoon and just waded through the 6 pages of new posts in this thread.
It was not worth it.
Quote from: Weebs on August 13, 2009, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
For the record, I do think all of you are child molesters.
I'm not going to lie; I've touched a lot of people.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
Huey is a bull dyke.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
I don't get this KurtEvans Photoshop at all.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
That's actually my kind of girl
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:40:06 PM
You're just kind of burying yourself.
Irony just materialized in the physical world and slapped me across the face.
Quote from: MAD on August 14, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: MAD on August 14, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars.
Do we really need to have this Internet fight?
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 14, 2009, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: MAD on August 14, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars.
Do we really need to have this Internet fight?
I think you read green in there when there was no green to be found.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: MAD on August 14, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars bringing threads back onto myself and ruining more of them than Fork.
Seriously, shut the fuck up'd.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 14, 2009, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: MAD on August 14, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars.
Do we really need to have this Internet fight?
I think you read green in there when there was no green to be found.
Leave Oleg out of this!
Quote from: TDubbs on August 14, 2009, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: MAD on August 14, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars bringing threads back onto myself and ruining more of them than Fork.
Seriously, shut the fuck up'd.
Just responding to what was written to me.
Quote from: TDubbs on August 14, 2009, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: MAD on August 14, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars bringing threads back onto myself and ruining more of them than Fork.
Seriously, shut the fuck up'd.
Geez, steal a guy's Roofies, and he gets all raggy.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 14, 2009, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: MAD on August 14, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 13, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dave B on August 13, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
http://deadspin.com/5336740/is-this-person-the-wrigley-beer+tossing-hand-job
"Stay Classy, Cubs Fans." Oh, Deadspin! You're so clever!
Also, Kurt, it might help your cause if you stopped acting like you're the only person on the board who ever gets piled on. Christ, BC and Weebs take ten times the undeserved beatings that you do, yet they don't whine and call people child molesters when it happens to them. Lighten up.
Erm. I've never called anybody a child molester ... but I do think that this is TDubbs' kind of girl (http://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/pictures/2007/12/BuckTranssexualMan.jpg) (extremely nsfw).
The fuck is wrong with you, dude? Seriously.
I think anybody here who was either ambivalent or sympathetic toward you now sees you as an all-encompassing fucktard not deserving of any sympathy. You've become the nutzoid spazz on the playground that everybody eventually turns against. Congratufuckinglations.
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars bringing threads back onto myself and ruining more of them than Fork.
Seriously, shut the fuck up'd.
Just responding to what was written to me.
Thank you Kurt, for managing to make me look competent and self-aware.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
I am tremendously sorry that I am an all-encompassing fucktard. I also obviously need to stop turning to Howard Stern for impossibly creepy porn stars.
Who the fuck is Howard Stern?
So how about them fags... I hate me some fags. And fucking Obama: Helped because he was black. I'm sick of my white HEADWIND. Commie pinko taxocrat homolibsoopenmindedyourheadfallsout.
SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!
Well, if this is going to be that kind of party...
Quote from: Weebs on August 14, 2009, 10:08:02 AM
Thank you Kurt, for managing to make me look competent and self-aware.
That.
Quote from: Oleg on August 14, 2009, 10:43:16 AM
Well, if this is going to be that kind of party...
Hey! You leave those mashed potatoes alone, mister!
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Wheras you enjoy date-raping unconscious bull-dykes in order to prove to the world that you aren't a cock-hungry homo.
I retract this statement, incidentally. I have no personal knowledge of Chad and his behavior toward women.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Wheras you enjoy date-raping unconscious bull-dykes in order to prove to the world that you aren't a cock-hungry homo.
I retract this statement, incidentally. I have no personal knowledge of Chad and his behavior toward women.
Apology rejected!
Quote from: Slak on August 14, 2009, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2009, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 13, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Wheras you enjoy date-raping unconscious bull-dykes in order to prove to the world that you aren't a cock-hungry homo.
I retract this statement, incidentally. I have no personal knowledge of Chad and his behavior toward women.
Apology rejected!
Captain Needa?
(http://lukoagency.free.fr/images/Michael%20Culver/needa1.jpg)
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Maybe I'm letting my Milton-love blind me here, but I think the headline makes his statement more dramatic than what he actually said. I know he talked about facing "adversity and hatred on a daily basis," but when it's picked out of the quote to stand alone as a headline, it has a different ring to it.
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Two more years of games like he had last night are okay with me.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on August 26, 2009, 09:01:44 AM
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Two more years of games like he had last night are okay with me.
Still five days before the waiver trade deadline.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on August 26, 2009, 09:01:44 AM
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Two more years of games like he had last night are okay with me.
Be nice if he had them when they were still in the race.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 26, 2009, 09:12:35 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on August 26, 2009, 09:01:44 AM
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Two more years of games like he had last night are okay with me.
Be nice if he had them when they were still in the race.
Yes, if only the team had lost all those games by one fewer run, I know I'd feel much better.
Quote from: Eli on August 26, 2009, 08:57:55 AM
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Maybe I'm letting my Milton-love blind me here, but I think the headline makes his statement more dramatic than what he actually said. I know he talked about facing "adversity and hatred on a daily basis," but when it's picked out of the quote to stand alone as a headline, it has a different ring to it.
This.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on August 26, 2009, 09:01:44 AM
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Two more years of games like he had last night are okay with me.
That.
Quote from: Eli on August 26, 2009, 08:57:55 AM
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Maybe I'm letting my Milton-love blind me here, but I think the headline makes his statement more dramatic than what he actually said. I know he talked about facing "adversity and hatred on a daily basis," but when it's picked out of the quote to stand alone as a headline, it has a different ring to it.
That's okay, I think that my Milton-hate is starting to blind me, so it's evening out.
Fuck this sub-.800 OPS mope.
Quote from: CT III on August 26, 2009, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 26, 2009, 08:57:55 AM
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Maybe I'm letting my Milton-love blind me here, but I think the headline makes his statement more dramatic than what he actually said. I know he talked about facing "adversity and hatred on a daily basis," but when it's picked out of the quote to stand alone as a headline, it has a different ring to it.
That's okay, I think that my Milton-hate is starting to blind me, so it's evening out.
Fuck this sub-.800 OPS mope.
This.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4423669
"All I'm saying is I pray the game is nine innings, so I can go out there the least amount of time possible and go home," Bradley said.
Me too Milton, me too.
Quote from: Eli on August 26, 2009, 08:57:55 AM
Quote from: theoneandonlyjim on August 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/bradley-i-face-hatred-on-a-daily-basis.html)
Charming. Just think, only two more years of his cheerful, good-natured attitude.
Maybe I'm letting my Milton-love blind me here, but I think the headline makes his statement more dramatic than what he actually said. I know he talked about facing "adversity and hatred on a daily basis," but when it's picked out of the quote to stand alone as a headline, it has a different ring to it.
I've been in his corner all year but I'm starting to get the idea that he's an incredibly needy, insecure buttwhistle. There has been a ton of shit heaped on Soriano and when he was asked about fan abuse, he admitted that rarely does it cross a line and that his play has sort of cleared a path for it regardless. Milton, on the other hand, keeps coming off like a giant sand-filled vagina.
I wish the games were only 5 or 6 innings long so I didn't have to watch this fucking bullpen.
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
Someone has pissed in Apex's Cheerios.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
We get it, you're Raymond Allen.
Quote from: Wheezer on August 27, 2009, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
We get it, you're Raymond Allen.
(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/06/16-22/ray-allen-celtics-nba-playoffs-son-ill-boston-los-angeles-sick.jpg)
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
So we've been calling Cubs fans idiots for years and now we find that Milton Bradley agrees with us and we're going to hate him for it? I'm with Milt. Fuck the Cubs.
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
So we've been calling Cubs fans idiots for years and now we find that Milton Bradley agrees with us and we're going to hate him for it? I'm with Milt. Fuck the Cubs.
I think we have our slogan for 2010.
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
So we've been calling Cubs fans idiots for years and now we find that Milton Bradley agrees with us and we're going to hate him for it? I'm with Milt. Fuck the Cubs.
Whoa there sailor, I don't hate him for calling Cubs fans idiots. I just...don't like him. Even I'm not sure why sometimes.
And aren't you the guy who's always screaming that Derek Lee should SHUT THE HELL UP AND PLAY BALL whenever he says anything about the fans?
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2009, 09:02:08 AM
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
So we've been calling Cubs fans idiots for years and now we find that Milton Bradley agrees with us and we're going to hate him for it? I'm with Milt. Fuck the Cubs.
Whoa there sailor, I don't hate him for calling Cubs fans idiots. I just...don't like him. Even I'm not sure why sometimes.
And aren't you the guy who's always screaming that Derek Lee should SHUT THE HELL UP AND PLAY BALL whenever he says anything about the fans?
Oooh. He's got you there, Mitch.
I agree that Cub fans are idiots. But I also suspect that a lot of the heckling that Bradley hears is coming from inside his own head. The guy is, how shall I put it politely, a bit "touched" in the head, methinks.
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2009, 09:02:08 AM
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
So we've been calling Cubs fans idiots for years and now we find that Milton Bradley agrees with us and we're going to hate him for it? I'm with Milt. Fuck the Cubs.
Whoa there sailor, I don't hate him for calling Cubs fans idiots. I just...don't like him. Even I'm not sure why sometimes.
And aren't you the guy who's always screaming that Derek Lee should SHUT THE HELL UP AND PLAY BALL whenever he says anything about the fans?
Intrepid Reader LaTroy Hawkins: Because he has a high melanin count? Fuck all y'all.
Quote from: MAD on August 27, 2009, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2009, 09:02:08 AM
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
So we've been calling Cubs fans idiots for years and now we find that Milton Bradley agrees with us and we're going to hate him for it? I'm with Milt. Fuck the Cubs.
Whoa there sailor, I don't hate him for calling Cubs fans idiots. I just...don't like him. Even I'm not sure why sometimes.
And aren't you the guy who's always screaming that Derek Lee should SHUT THE HELL UP AND PLAY BALL whenever he says anything about the fans?
Oooh. He's got you there, Mitch.
I agree that Cub fans are idiots. But I also suspect that a lot of the heckling that Bradley hears is coming from inside his own head. The guy is, how shall I put it politely, a bit "touched" in the head, methinks.
If by "touched" you mean "batshit crazy" I would have to agree.
Quote from: MAD on August 27, 2009, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2009, 09:02:08 AM
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
So we've been calling Cubs fans idiots for years and now we find that Milton Bradley agrees with us and we're going to hate him for it? I'm with Milt. Fuck the Cubs.
Whoa there sailor, I don't hate him for calling Cubs fans idiots. I just...don't like him. Even I'm not sure why sometimes.
And aren't you the guy who's always screaming that Derek Lee should SHUT THE HELL UP AND PLAY BALL whenever he says anything about the fans?
Oooh. He's got you there, Mitch.
I agree that Cub fans are idiots. But I also suspect that a lot of the heckling that Bradley hears is coming from inside his own head. The guy is, how shall I put it politely, a bit "touched" in the head, methinks.
He did get me there and I did say that. But I think I've come around. I'm a changed man I says!
Quote from: MAD on August 27, 2009, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2009, 09:02:08 AM
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
So we've been calling Cubs fans idiots for years and now we find that Milton Bradley agrees with us and we're going to hate him for it? I'm with Milt. Fuck the Cubs.
Whoa there sailor, I don't hate him for calling Cubs fans idiots. I just...don't like him. Even I'm not sure why sometimes.
And aren't you the guy who's always screaming that Derek Lee should SHUT THE HELL UP AND PLAY BALL whenever he says anything about the fans?
Oooh. He's got you there, Mitch.
I agree that Cub fans are idiots. But I also suspect that a lot of the heckling that Bradley hears is coming from inside his own head. The guy is, how shall I put it politely, a bit "touched" in the head, methinks.
I think Mike Douche has this one right. Cubs fans, particularly BleacherChads, are largely shitstains. But it's not like this is the first time Milton's shown signs of an over-the-top persecution complex. He's pulled the oversensitive act (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3438827) elsewhere, so you can't lay all the blame at the feet of Tdubbs and his bros in the bleachers for throwing watermelon seeds at Milton. Most of it, but not all.
All that being said, Milton is pretty far down on the list of reasons why the Cubs have failed miserably this season.
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:24:46 AM
All that being said, Milton is pretty far down on the list of reasons why the Cubs have failed miserably this season.
True. But he does look a lot like Kent Mercker.
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:24:46 AM
All that being said, Milton is pretty far down on the list of reasons why the Cubs have failed miserably this season.
Not that far. He hit for shit half the season.
Quote from: Fork on August 27, 2009, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:24:46 AM
All that being said, Milton is pretty far down on the list of reasons why the Cubs have failed miserably this season.
Not that far. He hit for shit half the season.
Aramis' injury (and the fact that there was no backup plan).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/83/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from left field (when you were expecting top-tier production).
Awful production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/80/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from 2nd base (when you were expecting at least average production).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/78/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from catcher (when you were expecting above average production).
Marmol's inability to throw strikes.
Gregg's ridiculous rate of home runs allowed.
I'd say all those are above Milton on the Fail List. Obviously he hasn't lived up to expectations, but even when he was shitty, at least he was getting on base.
Let's not lose track of what's important here.
I totally burned Slak.
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2009, 09:39:05 AM
Let's not lose track of what's important here.
I totally burned Slak.
BFD, he's pretty flammable.
Well I'm borrowing a page from Slak.
Hey Milt SHUT THE HELL UP AND PLAY BALL
Between the shitty start, the antics, and the constant comments I'm getting quite tired of Milt already.
Quote from: Fork on August 27, 2009, 09:40:14 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2009, 09:39:05 AM
Let's not lose track of what's important here.
I totally burned Slak.
BFD, he's pretty flammable.
Not when I wear my duster. It's flame retardant. That's the whole point. I'M NOT BURNING THE DUSTER. Ok?
Quote from: Waco Kid on August 27, 2009, 09:46:43 AM
Well I'm borrowing a page from Slak.
Hey Milt SHUT THE HELL UP AND PLAY BALL
Between the shitty start, the antics, and the constant comments I'm getting quite tired of Milt already.
That was the old Slak. He dead.
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:38:19 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 27, 2009, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:24:46 AM
All that being said, Milton is pretty far down on the list of reasons why the Cubs have failed miserably this season.
Not that far. He hit for shit half the season.
Aramis' injury (and the fact that there was no backup plan).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/83/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from left field (when you were expecting top-tier production).
Awful production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/80/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from 2nd base (when you were expecting at least average production).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/78/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from catcher (when you were expecting above average production).
Marmol's inability to throw strikes.
Gregg's ridiculous rate of home runs allowed.
I'd say all those are above Milton on the Fail List. Obviously he hasn't lived up to expectations, but even when he was shitty, at least he was getting on base.
This.
I think Milton should shut up and play ball, too. But can we all agree he's the best RF the Cubs have had since the Gladiator actually gave a shit?
Quote from: Brownie on August 27, 2009, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:38:19 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 27, 2009, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:24:46 AM
All that being said, Milton is pretty far down on the list of reasons why the Cubs have failed miserably this season.
Not that far. He hit for shit half the season.
Aramis' injury (and the fact that there was no backup plan).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/83/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from left field (when you were expecting top-tier production).
Awful production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/80/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from 2nd base (when you were expecting at least average production).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/78/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from catcher (when you were expecting above average production).
Marmol's inability to throw strikes.
Gregg's ridiculous rate of home runs allowed.
I'd say all those are above Milton on the Fail List. Obviously he hasn't lived up to expectations, but even when he was shitty, at least he was getting on base.
This.
I think Milton should shut up and play ball, too. But can we all agree he's the best RF the Cubs have had since the Gladiator actually gave a shit?
MATT STAIRS!
Quote from: Brownie on August 27, 2009, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:38:19 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 27, 2009, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:24:46 AM
All that being said, Milton is pretty far down on the list of reasons why the Cubs have failed miserably this season.
Not that far. He hit for shit half the season.
Aramis' injury (and the fact that there was no backup plan).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/83/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from left field (when you were expecting top-tier production).
Awful production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/80/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from 2nd base (when you were expecting at least average production).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/78/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from catcher (when you were expecting above average production).
Marmol's inability to throw strikes.
Gregg's ridiculous rate of home runs allowed.
I'd say all those are above Milton on the Fail List. Obviously he hasn't lived up to expectations, but even when he was shitty, at least he was getting on base.
This.
I think Milton should shut up and play ball, too. But can we all agree he's the best RF the Cubs have had since the Gladiator actually gave a shit?
That's exactly why I wish Milt would just shut up and play.
Quote from: Waco Kid on August 27, 2009, 09:58:19 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 27, 2009, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:38:19 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 27, 2009, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 27, 2009, 09:24:46 AM
All that being said, Milton is pretty far down on the list of reasons why the Cubs have failed miserably this season.
Not that far. He hit for shit half the season.
Aramis' injury (and the fact that there was no backup plan).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/83/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from left field (when you were expecting top-tier production).
Awful production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/80/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from 2nd base (when you were expecting at least average production).
Below average production (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/78/league/nl/sort/OPS/order/true) from catcher (when you were expecting above average production).
Marmol's inability to throw strikes.
Gregg's ridiculous rate of home runs allowed.
I'd say all those are above Milton on the Fail List. Obviously he hasn't lived up to expectations, but even when he was shitty, at least he was getting on base.
This.
I think Milton should shut up and play ball, too. But can we all agree he's the best RF the Cubs have had since the Gladiator actually gave a shit?
That's exactly why I wish Milt would just shut up and play.
What does Kurt think?
I just find Milton to be extremely annoying. At this point it's not even original to criticize him, everyone know's he's been a disappointment. What bugs me is instead of shutting the fuck up and earning that 10 million dollars he just seems pre-occupied with complaining about:
1. Umpires
2. Not having any teammates he can relate to
3. Fans
4. The weather
Ok, so I made the last one up. But you get the gist.
Since he's gave us the gift of a third year by not spending half of his season on the DL, I just hope he shuts the fuck up and plays ball.
Quote from: BichetteHappens on August 27, 2009, 10:14:58 AM
I just find Milton to be extremely annoying. At this point it's not even original to criticize him, everyone know's he's been a disappointment. What bugs me is instead of shutting the fuck up and earning that 10 million dollars he just seems pre-occupied with complaining about:
1. Umpires
2. Not having any teammates he can relate to
3. Fans
4. The weather
Ok, so I made the last one up. But you get the gist.
Since he's gave us the gift of a third year by not spending half of his season on the DL, I just hope he shuts the fuck up and plays ball.
Problem is he won't shut up and play ball. It's not in his make-up.
I would agree that Milt is far down the list on reasons this season has been one long trip on the fail train but he is probably going to play his way out of town due to the fact he won't shut the fuck up.
The abuse is only going to get worse if he keeps bitching about it. And since it's highly likely he will continue to receive questions about it he's not going to stop bitching.
I still can't believe Hendry thought Milt could handle the pressure that goes with playing here.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 27, 2009, 10:20:27 AM
I still can't believe Hendry thought Milt could handle the pressure that goes with playing here.
Yes you do.
I'm pretty sure the fans in RF are generally doucherockets that will say some extremely dumb things to a baseball player they apparently don't like. And, we all know that Milton is a dickhead. However, I can't help but smile when Milton gives those idiots a taste of their own medicine by mocking them.
I still like Milton Bradley. I really hate these Cubs.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 27, 2009, 10:34:51 AM
I'm pretty sure the fans in RF are generally doucherockets that will say some extremely dumb things to a baseball player they apparently don't like. And, we all know that Milton is a dickhead. However, I can't help but smile when Milton gives those idiots a taste of their own medicine by mocking them.
I still like Milton Bradley. I really hate these Cubs.
I was in RF two weeks ago. I didn't hear any slurs and didn't hear any booing directed at Milt. He also threw a ball to the fans after before every half-inning.
This is all just a distraction that Milt is creating because he feeds off this shit. It makes him better.
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 27, 2009, 10:34:51 AM
I'm pretty sure the fans in RF are generally doucherockets that will say some extremely dumb things to a baseball player they apparently don't like. And, we all know that Milton is a dickhead. However, I can't help but smile when Milton gives those idiots a taste of their own medicine by mocking them.
I still like Milton Bradley. I really hate these Cubs.
I was in RF two weeks ago. I didn't hear any slurs and didn't hear any booing directed at Milt. He also threw a ball to the fans after before every half-inning.
This is all just a distraction that Milt is creating because he feeds off this shit. It makes him better.
I think he's great for the team and for the fans and for the game of baseball.
Quote from: TDubbs on August 27, 2009, 10:44:49 AM
I think he's great for the team and for the fans and for the game of baseball.
I don't know about GREAT. I'd say "solid" or "pretty good."
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 27, 2009, 10:34:51 AM
I'm pretty sure the fans in RF are generally doucherockets that will say some extremely dumb things to a baseball player they apparently don't like. And, we all know that Milton is a dickhead. However, I can't help but smile when Milton gives those idiots a taste of their own medicine by mocking them.
I still like Milton Bradley. I really hate these Cubs.
I was in RF two weeks ago. I didn't hear any slurs and didn't hear any booing directed at Milt. He also threw a ball to the fans after before every half-inning.
This is all just a distraction that Milt is creating because he feeds off this shit. It makes him better.
Whatever. It's football season.
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 10:42:22 AM
I was in RF two weeks ago. I didn't hear any slurs and didn't hear any booing directed at Milt. He also threw a ball to the fans after before every half-inning.
Bullshit. He's been hearing it all the time. Just check this single-point-in-time anecdotal evidence:
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/bradley-will-probably-request-trade#76
Quote from: Eli on August 27, 2009, 10:49:04 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 27, 2009, 10:44:49 AM
I think he's great for the team and for the fans and for the game of baseball.
I don't know about GREAT. I'd say "solid" or "pretty good."
Would someone mind emailing me a transcript of this thread for my blog(s)?
Quote from: Jon on August 27, 2009, 10:55:47 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 27, 2009, 10:49:04 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 27, 2009, 10:44:49 AM
I think he's great for the team and for the fans and for the game of baseball.
I don't know about GREAT. I'd say "solid" or "pretty good."
Would someone mind emailing me a transcript of this thread for my blog(s)?
Since when do you have blogs?
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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Quote from: Eli on August 27, 2009, 11:11:23 AM
Quote from: Jon on August 27, 2009, 10:55:47 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 27, 2009, 10:49:04 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on August 27, 2009, 10:44:49 AM
I think he's great for the team and for the fans and for the game of baseball.
I don't know about GREAT. I'd say "solid" or "pretty good."
Would someone mind emailing me a transcript of this thread for my blog(s)?
Since when do you have blogs?
HEY! I was given a link!
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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Shut the fuck up and sell computers.
Oleg,
I wish he'd shut up and play ball for his own sake. Milton is worried about the criticism coming from the fans, but when he says the fans and teammates are not hospitable enough to him, it tends to provide more fodder for people to dislike him.
As far as the racist comments go, I'm sure he's heard them. Of course, did he not hear them in Cleveland? In Texas? In Oakland? In San Diego? In LA? In Montreal? Well maybe not in Montreal, because maybe Milton doesn't speak French, but he needs to deal with it. Piniella and Soriano played in fucking Yankee Stadium. Do you think either of them heard things below the pale?
Again, I think Milton should shut up and play ball, because it might do something good to his attitude and outlook. He likes who he is. I think he wants people to like him. He needs to either accept that some people won't like you no matter what, or that more people will like you if you quit your bitching about a job that pays out a mere $10 million per year.
I wasn't big on his signing, but I hardly think it's a disaster. So I want him to shut up and play ball, unlike guys like Todd Hundley. I wanted Hundley and LaTroy Hawkins to shut up and go away, or more important, go away.
Quote from: Brownie on August 27, 2009, 11:49:25 AM
Oleg,
I wish he'd shut up and play ball for his own sake. Milton is worried about the criticism coming from the fans, but when he says the fans and teammates are not hospitable enough to him, it tends to provide more fodder for people to dislike him.
As far as the racist comments go, I'm sure he's heard them. Of course, did he not hear them in Cleveland? In Texas? In Oakland? In San Diego? In LA? In Montreal? Well maybe not in Montreal, because maybe Milton doesn't speak French, but he needs to deal with it. Piniella and Soriano played in fucking Yankee Stadium. Do you think either of them heard things below the pale?
Again, I think Milton should shut up and play ball, because it might do something good to his attitude and outlook. He likes who he is. I think he wants people to like him. He needs to either accept that some people won't like you no matter what, or that more people will like you if you quit your bitching about a job that pays out a mere $10 million per year.
I wasn't big on his signing, but I hardly think it's a disaster. So I want him to shut up and play ball, unlike guys like Todd Hundley. I wanted Hundley and LaTroy Hawkins to shut up and go away, or more important, go away.
I'd rather hate these fuckers for turning a 97 win team into a 77 win team. I guess I couldn't care less what these assholes say to Gordo and Levine. Maybe if Milty is happier, he loses his edge and decides that collecting a $30MM payout is enough. I don't know. If this is what it takes for him to like himself, who am I to argue with him?
I do see your point, dude.
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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This is a great question. I would amend the "shut the fuck up and play ball" thing to "shut up and
just play ball." I sincerely hope that no one thinks Milton's speaking about his frustrations is affecting his play (which has been just fine this year) but rather they would wish our right fielder should be seen and not heard.
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 27, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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This is a great question. I would amend the "shut the fuck up and play ball" thing to "shut up and just play ball." I sincerely hope that no one thinks Milton's speaking about his frustrations is affecting his play (which has been just fine this year) but rather they would wish our right fielder should be seen and not heard.
The strange thing is that Milton has been awesome at home (.958 OPS), where he's had to deal with the supposed hatred, and terrible on the road (.652 OPS), where I assume he doesn't mind playing more than 9 innings once in a while.
Milton Bradley is misunderstood. He is above it all. He thrives off our hatred.
Clearly, Milton Bradley is Paul.
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 27, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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This is a great question. I would amend the "shut the fuck up and play ball" thing to "shut up and just play ball." I sincerely hope that no one thinks Milton's speaking about his frustrations is affecting his play (which has been just fine this year) but rather they would wish our right fielder should be seen and not heard.
Like all morgans and broads. See? We've come fuill circle.
"Asked to clarify comments the night before about facing ''hatred'' daily at Wrigley Field, Bradley alluded Wednesday to racial overtones in taunting and boos, said he's overheard waiters ''bad-mouthing'' him in restaurants and said it has become bad enough in right field that he dreads extra-inning games."
Wait a minute. The only specific thing that he mentions is that waiters in restaurants have bad mouthed him? He "alludes to" but won't tell us about the alleged racial taunts at Wrigley. He talks about the incident in San Diego when a Padres' fan asked him about his ACL and whether that was his first home run.
So he condemns Cub fans for the behavior of waiters in restaurants and hecklers who are Padre fans. He is a nut job after all.
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 27, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Can someone explain the whole "shut the fuck and play ball" thing? Is he not playing because he's answering reporters' questions? Are you people just annoyed with him, and instead of changing your behavior (perhaps stop reading about him), you expect him to change who he is? Would your criticism be any different if he didn't talk to reporters (would he then become an asshole who doesn't care)? Does this mean none of you will be sending him a Christmas card?
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This is a great question. I would amend the "shut the fuck up and play ball" thing to "shut up and just play ball." I sincerely hope that no one thinks Milton's speaking about his frustrations is affecting his play (which has been just fine this year) but rather they would wish our right fielder should be seen and not heard.
Like all morgans and broads. See? We've come fuill circle.
Also, it was a poor Milford Acadamy reference
Quote from: TDubbs on August 27, 2009, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on August 27, 2009, 10:34:51 AM
I'm pretty sure the fans in RF are generally doucherockets that will say some extremely dumb things to a baseball player they apparently don't like. And, we all know that Milton is a dickhead. However, I can't help but smile when Milton gives those idiots a taste of their own medicine by mocking them.
I still like Milton Bradley. I really hate these Cubs.
I was in RF two weeks ago. I didn't hear any slurs and didn't hear any booing directed at Milt. He also threw a ball to the fans after before every half-inning.
This is all just a distraction that Milt is creating because he feeds off this shit. It makes him better.
I think he's great for the team and for the fans and for the game of baseball. a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer.
Was the Padre fan Mark Prior?
Quote from: TDubbs on August 27, 2009, 05:02:20 AM
Quote from: Wheezer on August 27, 2009, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
We get it, you're Raymond Allen.
(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/06/16-22/ray-allen-celtics-nba-playoffs-son-ill-boston-los-angeles-sick.jpg)
Not that one (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/715/nw3.JPG).
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Milty, Z and Marmol are my favorite player not named Aramis. I don't really care that much about anybody else on the team or in the fanbase or the media. Fuck you too, by the way.
I like Aramis, Bradley, Lilly, and Marmol. We're almost on the same page.
Listening to B&B tonight, they kept on harping on Milton to give examples of what's said to him. How does that satisfy anything? Do they want him to say, "I've heard nigger, go back to africa you coon, etc." Is that going to make it all better to them? I'm just not sure what the whole "give me examples" thing would actually do in the grand scheme of things.
And yea, he should probably stop because he's digging a hole
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 27, 2009, 09:05:12 PM
Listening to B&B tonight, they kept on harping on Milton to give examples of what's said to him. How does that satisfy anything? Do they want him to say, "I've heard nigger, go back to africa you coon, etc." Is that going to make it all better to them? I'm just not sure what the whole "give me examples" thing would actually do in the grand scheme of things.
And yea, he should probably stop because he's digging a hole
It's calling him on bullshit. Given that Milton believes that he hears waiters talking about him in restaurants, it's not exactly unbelievable that he's full of shit.
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 27, 2009, 09:05:12 PM
Listening to B&B tonight, they kept on harping on Milton to give examples of what's said to him. How does that satisfy anything? Do they want him to say, "I've heard nigger, go back to africa you coon, etc." Is that going to make it all better to them? I'm just not sure what the whole "give me examples" thing would actually do in the grand scheme of things.
And yea, he should probably stop because he's digging a hole
Because if he can go ahead and cry racism without any examples of people being racist it means the next guy who may actually be called racist things is going to be taken less seriously.
Or, The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
Quote from: Slak on August 27, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 27, 2009, 09:05:12 PM
Listening to B&B tonight, they kept on harping on Milton to give examples of what's said to him. How does that satisfy anything? Do they want him to say, "I've heard nigger, go back to africa you coon, etc." Is that going to make it all better to them? I'm just not sure what the whole "give me examples" thing would actually do in the grand scheme of things.
And yea, he should probably stop because he's digging a hole
Because if he can go ahead and cry racism without any examples of people being racist, it means the next guy who may actually be called racist things is going to be taken less seriously.
Or, The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
Because he's black.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2009, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 27, 2009, 09:05:12 PM
Listening to B&B tonight, they kept on harping on Milton to give examples of what's said to him. How does that satisfy anything? Do they want him to say, "I've heard nigger, go back to africa you coon, etc." Is that going to make it all better to them? I'm just not sure what the whole "give me examples" thing would actually do in the grand scheme of things.
And yea, he should probably stop because he's digging a hole
It's calling him on bullshit. Given that Milton believes that he hears waiters talking about him in restaurants, it's not exactly unbelievable that he's full of shit.
Yeah, it's an inescapable trap. I mean, Milton's never heard any racist remarks in his
whole life so it would be impossible for him to pick some as a lie...
I think Milton honestly thinks he gets booed because he's black. Not just because he and the team suck.
You could hear it in Derrek Lee's comments. The way he said, "I haven't heard any of that, but maybe Milton has," came off as, "He's a fucking batshit loon."
Nobody is more racist than Cardinals fans (well, maybe Braves fans). They're still on the fence down there about whether Bob Gibson was worth all the trouble. I hate to agree with Phildo, but the Cubs should just release Milty and use his unbelievable "I root for the game to be over in nine innings" quote as the reason.
Quote from: Pre on August 27, 2009, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2009, 09:33:03 PM
It's calling him on bullshit. Given that Milton believes that he hears waiters talking about him in restaurants, it's not exactly unbelievable that he's full of shit.
Yeah, it's an inescapable trap. I mean, Milton's never heard any racist remarks in his
whole life so it would be impossible for him to pick some as a lie...
He's a modern day Jackie Robinson for what he's had to go through.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 28, 2009, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: Pre on August 27, 2009, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2009, 09:33:03 PM
It's calling him on bullshit. Given that Milton believes that he hears waiters talking about him in restaurants, it's not exactly unbelievable that he's full of shit.
Yeah, it's an inescapable trap. I mean, Milton's never heard any racist remarks in his
whole life so it would be impossible for him to pick some as a lie...
He's a modern day Jackie Robinson for what he's had to go through.
Did you miss Pre's point?
I am on Bradley's side He has been victimized by the Cubs. As he put it:
''Unless you get paid $30 million to play right field for the Chicago Cubs,'' he said, ''then you can't speak on how I feel because you don't know.''
Personal anecdote. I try not to be self-indulgent...so it would be cool if you read it. Or don't, because it's kind of a long story.
About three weeks ago, I'm on the Blue Line in the morning heading into work. I got on at Irving going south. At Addison, an African-American woman (probably in her mid-30s) gets on with two boys. I'm guessing one is about 5 years-old and maybe 40-50 pounds, and the other is about 2 or 3. I presume these are her children, or at the very least...she's clearly responsible for them. They sit directly across the aisle from me, within my eyesight. I have earphones in.
The entire way towards downtown, the older kid year is STANDING on his seat right next to this woman. The woman is not in any way holding the kid. While the Blue Line is improving, this is still a lite-rail subway, and not a touring SUV. If the train hits the brakes hard, he falls over, and he's almost certainly going to hit a metal bar somewhere. It could conceivably be very bad for this little kid. I found myself looking over quite a bit (not staring), because I couldn't believe this woman was allowing this...I'm kind of concerned. About 15 minutes into the ride, I see her looking straight at me saying something. I take out my earphones...and this is what I hear:
"Quit looking over here, mother fucker. They're kids, they're just having fun. I know how people like you are...you think I don't know how to raise my kids because I'm black".
I sarcastically reply: "Yes, that's it, you're right on the mark. This is about race. The fact that I am looking over has absolutely nothing to do with me being concerned that the small child STANDING on a subway seat might get seriously hurt."
She says: "He's fine, I'll make sure he doesn't get hurt"
The exchange was exactly that short. I put my headphones back and on and then just went ahead and stared at her for the next 60 seconds or so.
At this point, the other passengers have this look on their faces like "Oh shit, this is about to ugly". I would also point out, that while plenty of others were looking her direction just as I was the entire trip...they all let me take the wrath of this bitch. So to you other Blue Line passengers who let me deal with her by myself, I offer you all my middle finger, and suggest that you grow a pair.
I got off at Clark/Lake, and that was about it.
That's a long-handed way of saying this:
There are angry people in the world who will take situations that AREN'T x (in this case, x = racial), and distill said scenario into something more because it backs people into a corner. They do that to quell people who are annoying them. Because Milton doesn't care to be specific, and because of his history, I believe that's quite possibly what we're looking at here. That's where I would personally put my money. If he wants to get specific, then let's talk about.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on August 28, 2009, 01:08:40 PM
Personal anecdote. I try not to be self-indulgent...so it would be cool if you read it. Or don't, because it's kind of a long story.
About three weeks ago, I'm on the Blue Line in the morning heading into work. I got on at Irving going south. At Addison, an African-American woman (probably in her mid-30s) gets on with two boys. I'm guessing one is about 5 years-old and maybe 40-50 pounds, and the other is about 2 or 3. I presume these are her children, or at the very least...she's clearly responsible for them. They sit directly across the aisle from me, within my eyesight. I have earphones in.
The entire way towards downtown, the older kid year is STANDING on his seat right next to this woman. The woman is not in any way holding the kid. While the Blue Line is improving, this is still a lite-rail subway, and not a touring SUV. If the train hits the brakes hard, he falls over, and he's almost certainly going to hit a metal bar somewhere. It could conceivably be very bad for this little kid. I found myself looking over quite a bit (not staring), because I couldn't believe this woman was allowing this...I'm kind of concerned. About 15 minutes into the ride, I see her looking straight at me saying something. I take out my earphones...and this is what I hear:
"Quit looking over here, mother fucker. They're kids, they're just having fun. I know how people like you are...you think I don't know how to raise my kids because I'm black".
I sarcastically reply: "Yes, that's it, you're right on the mark. This is about race. The fact that I am looking over has absolutely nothing to do with me being concerned that the small child STANDING on a subway seat might get seriously hurt."
She says: "He's fine, I'll make sure he doesn't get hurt"
The exchange was exactly that short. I put my headphones back and on and then just went ahead and stared at her for the next 60 seconds or so.
At this point, the other passengers have this look on their faces like "Oh shit, this is about to ugly". I would also point out, that while plenty of others were looking her direction just as I was the entire trip...they all let me take the wrath of this bitch. So to you other Blue Line passengers who let me deal with her by myself, I offer you all my middle finger, and suggest that you grow a pair.
I got off at Clark/Lake, and that was about it.
That's a long-handed way of saying this:
There are angry people in the world who will take situations that AREN'T x (in this case, x = racial), and distill said scenario into something more because it backs people into a corner. They do that to quell people who are annoying them. Because Milton doesn't care to be specific, and because of his history, I believe that's quite possibly what we're looking at here. That's where I would personally put my money. If he wants to get specific, then let's talk about.
Intrepid Reader: ForkMilton's ignorance reminds me of the time I sprained my ignorance.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on August 28, 2009, 01:08:40 PM
Personal anecdote. I try not to be self-indulgent...so it would be cool if you read it. Or don't, because it's kind of a long story.
About three weeks ago, I'm on the Blue Line in the morning heading into work. I got on at Irving going south. At Addison, an African-American woman (probably in her mid-30s) gets on with two boys. I'm guessing one is about 5 years-old and maybe 40-50 pounds, and the other is about 2 or 3. I presume these are her children, or at the very least...she's clearly responsible for them. They sit directly across the aisle from me, within my eyesight. I have earphones in.
The entire way towards downtown, the older kid year is STANDING on his seat right next to this woman. The woman is not in any way holding the kid. While the Blue Line is improving, this is still a lite-rail subway, and not a touring SUV. If the train hits the brakes hard, he falls over, and he's almost certainly going to hit a metal bar somewhere. It could conceivably be very bad for this little kid. I found myself looking over quite a bit (not staring), because I couldn't believe this woman was allowing this...I'm kind of concerned. About 15 minutes into the ride, I see her looking straight at me saying something. I take out my earphones...and this is what I hear:
"Quit looking over here, mother fucker. They're kids, they're just having fun. I know how people like you are...you think I don't know how to raise my kids because I'm black".
I sarcastically reply: "Yes, that's it, you're right on the mark. This is about race. The fact that I am looking over has absolutely nothing to do with me being concerned that the small child STANDING on a subway seat might get seriously hurt."
She says: "He's fine, I'll make sure he doesn't get hurt"
The exchange was exactly that short. I put my headphones back and on and then just went ahead and stared at her for the next 60 seconds or so.
At this point, the other passengers have this look on their faces like "Oh shit, this is about to ugly". I would also point out, that while plenty of others were looking her direction just as I was the entire trip...they all let me take the wrath of this bitch. So to you other Blue Line passengers who let me deal with her by myself, I offer you all my middle finger, and suggest that you grow a pair.
I got off at Clark/Lake, and that was about it.
That's a long-handed way of saying this:
There are angry people in the world who will take situations that AREN'T x (in this case, x = racial), and distill said scenario into something more because it backs people into a corner. They do that to quell people who are annoying them. Because Milton doesn't care to be specific, and because of his history, I believe that's quite possibly what we're looking at here. That's where I would personally put my money. If he wants to get specific, then let's talk about.
What I feel bad about is that I bet that kid $100 he couldn't stand on the seat the entire ride.
Quote from: PenFoe on August 28, 2009, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on August 28, 2009, 01:08:40 PM
Personal anecdote. I try not to be self-indulgent...so it would be cool if you read it. Or don't, because it's kind of a long story.
About three weeks ago, I'm on the Blue Line in the morning heading into work. I got on at Irving going south. At Addison, an African-American woman (probably in her mid-30s) gets on with two boys. I'm guessing one is about 5 years-old and maybe 40-50 pounds, and the other is about 2 or 3. I presume these are her children, or at the very least...she's clearly responsible for them. They sit directly across the aisle from me, within my eyesight. I have earphones in.
The entire way towards downtown, the older kid year is STANDING on his seat right next to this woman. The woman is not in any way holding the kid. While the Blue Line is improving, this is still a lite-rail subway, and not a touring SUV. If the train hits the brakes hard, he falls over, and he's almost certainly going to hit a metal bar somewhere. It could conceivably be very bad for this little kid. I found myself looking over quite a bit (not staring), because I couldn't believe this woman was allowing this...I'm kind of concerned. About 15 minutes into the ride, I see her looking straight at me saying something. I take out my earphones...and this is what I hear:
"Quit looking over here, mother fucker. They're kids, they're just having fun. I know how people like you are...you think I don't know how to raise my kids because I'm black".
I sarcastically reply: "Yes, that's it, you're right on the mark. This is about race. The fact that I am looking over has absolutely nothing to do with me being concerned that the small child STANDING on a subway seat might get seriously hurt."
She says: "He's fine, I'll make sure he doesn't get hurt"
The exchange was exactly that short. I put my headphones back and on and then just went ahead and stared at her for the next 60 seconds or so.
At this point, the other passengers have this look on their faces like "Oh shit, this is about to ugly". I would also point out, that while plenty of others were looking her direction just as I was the entire trip...they all let me take the wrath of this bitch. So to you other Blue Line passengers who let me deal with her by myself, I offer you all my middle finger, and suggest that you grow a pair.
I got off at Clark/Lake, and that was about it.
That's a long-handed way of saying this:
There are angry people in the world who will take situations that AREN'T x (in this case, x = racial), and distill said scenario into something more because it backs people into a corner. They do that to quell people who are annoying them. Because Milton doesn't care to be specific, and because of his history, I believe that's quite possibly what we're looking at here. That's where I would personally put my money. If he wants to get specific, then let's talk about.
Intrepid Reader: Fork
Milton's ignorance reminds me of the time I sprained my ignorance.
My ignorance is strong like bull!
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on August 28, 2009, 01:08:40 PM
Personal anecdote. I try not to be self-indulgent...so it would be cool if you read it. Or don't, because it's kind of a long story.
About three weeks ago, I'm on the Blue Line in the morning heading into work. I got on at Irving going south. At Addison, an African-American woman (probably in her mid-30s) gets on with two boys. I'm guessing one is about 5 years-old and maybe 40-50 pounds, and the other is about 2 or 3. I presume these are her children, or at the very least...she's clearly responsible for them. They sit directly across the aisle from me, within my eyesight. I have earphones in.
The entire way towards downtown, the older kid year is STANDING on his seat right next to this woman. The woman is not in any way holding the kid. While the Blue Line is improving, this is still a lite-rail subway, and not a touring SUV. If the train hits the brakes hard, he falls over, and he's almost certainly going to hit a metal bar somewhere. It could conceivably be very bad for this little kid. I found myself looking over quite a bit (not staring), because I couldn't believe this woman was allowing this...I'm kind of concerned. About 15 minutes into the ride, I see her looking straight at me saying something. I take out my earphones...and this is what I hear:
"Quit looking over here, mother fucker. They're kids, they're just having fun. I know how people like you are...you think I don't know how to raise my kids because I'm black".
I sarcastically reply: "Yes, that's it, you're right on the mark. This is about race. The fact that I am looking over has absolutely nothing to do with me being concerned that the small child STANDING on a subway seat might get seriously hurt."
She says: "He's fine, I'll make sure he doesn't get hurt"
The exchange was exactly that short. I put my headphones back and on and then just went ahead and stared at her for the next 60 seconds or so.
At this point, the other passengers have this look on their faces like "Oh shit, this is about to ugly". I would also point out, that while plenty of others were looking her direction just as I was the entire trip...they all let me take the wrath of this bitch. So to you other Blue Line passengers who let me deal with her by myself, I offer you all my middle finger, and suggest that you grow a pair.
I got off at Clark/Lake, and that was about it.
That's a long-handed way of saying this:
There are angry people in the world who will take situations that AREN'T x (in this case, x = racial), and distill said scenario into something more because it backs people into a corner. They do that to quell people who are annoying them. Because Milton doesn't care to be specific, and because of his history, I believe that's quite possibly what we're looking at here. That's where I would personally put my money. If he wants to get specific, then let's talk about.
I was afraid to read this for fear it was another glimpse into your masturbation rituals.
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
Actually, more along the lines of this.
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/#1
Maybe a little bit of this too.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bradley-taking-the-fall
But mostly the second link. That.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
He's not hurting the brand if he's getting more customers to buy.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
(The point)..........................................................................................(Chuck)
Seriously, who gives a shit? From a fan's perspective, why do you care what Milton or any other of these douchebags does off the field? He doesn't need to listen to a PR person. He doesn't need to shut up. He doesn't need to stop calling people racist. He just needs to be good at playing baseball, since he's, y'know, a fucking baseball player.
If the Cubs want to trade him because he's hurting attendance on net (highly doubtful) and that outweighs his contributions performance-wise (even more dubious), then they can get rid of him. That's
their prerogative. But, from a fan's perspective, it's Yellon-esque to cry about the many ways in which Milton makes the Chicago press feel butthurt or whatever it is that meatheads are bitching and moaning about this week.
But, hey, hopefully the Cubs get rid of Milton, get a clean cut white guy who'll keep his mouth shut (!), run in to the outfield walls, and be an offensive black hole. That'd be swell, by golly. Just like the good ol' days back when bubblegum was a nickel and a ballplayer went home to his nice house with a white picket fence and had vanilla missionary sex with his cute little wife.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
Chuck, you must have had AMAZING SAT score.
Made up, Good Salesman is to some Made Up, Random Company as Milton Bradley is to ___________
Chuck: Milton is not a salesman at all, he plays baseball.
he's actually an excellent salesman, as some people will come out to cheer him, and some will come out to boo him. But they'll come out.
And, as the Schubert brothers said, the only bad seats in the house are the ones that don't have asses in them.
I have to believe that there are a lot of players in the locker room who wish that Milton would just shut up. How do you measure what he does to the team's cohesiveness or lack thereof?
Quote from: CBStew on August 30, 2009, 10:36:08 AM
I have to believe that there are a lot of players in the locker room who wish that Milton would just shut up. How do you measure what he does to the team's cohesiveness or lack thereof?
In wins and losses.
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
Shut up Paul, you're a douche.
I think this really is Milton.
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it.
(http://www.rootznculture.com/Products/dvd/Revolutionaries/Dr._Khalid_Muhammad_Stop_the_Execution_Start_the_Revolution_fr.JPG)
Just getting that out of the way'd.
[Edit.--OK, the original link didn't last. MISCAVIGE IS NEXT.]
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 08:34:36 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
(The point)..........................................................................................(Chuck)
Seriously, who gives a shit? From a fan's perspective, why do you care what Milton or any other of these douchebags does off the field? He doesn't need to listen to a PR person. He doesn't need to shut up. He doesn't need to stop calling people racist. He just needs to be good at playing baseball, since he's, y'know, a fucking baseball player.
If the Cubs want to trade him because he's hurting attendance on net (highly doubtful) and that outweighs his contributions performance-wise (even more dubious), then they can get rid of him. That's their prerogative. But, from a fan's perspective, it's Yellon-esque to cry about the many ways in which Milton makes the Chicago press feel butthurt or whatever it is that meatheads are bitching and moaning about this week.
But, hey, hopefully the Cubs get rid of Milton, get a clean cut white guy who'll keep his mouth shut (!), run in to the outfield walls, and be an offensive black hole. That'd be swell, by golly. Just like the good ol' days back when bubblegum was a nickel and a ballplayer went home to his nice house with a white picket fence and had vanilla missionary sex with his cute little wife.
Fuld'ed?
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 31, 2009, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
You're not a Cubs fan or maybe you are.
When's the MEP?
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 08:34:36 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
(The point)..........................................................................................(Chuck)
Seriously, who gives a shit? From a fan's perspective, why do you care what Milton or any other of these douchebags does off the field? He doesn't need to listen to a PR person. He doesn't need to shut up. He doesn't need to stop calling people racist. He just needs to be good at playing baseball, since he's, y'know, a fucking baseball player.
If the Cubs want to trade him because he's hurting attendance on net (highly doubtful) and that outweighs his contributions performance-wise (even more dubious), then they can get rid of him. That's their prerogative. But, from a fan's perspective, it's Yellon-esque to cry about the many ways in which Milton makes the Chicago press feel butthurt or whatever it is that meatheads are bitching and moaning about this week.
But, hey, hopefully the Cubs get rid of Milton, get a clean cut white guy who'll keep his mouth shut (!), run in to the outfield walls, and be an offensive black hole. That'd be swell, by golly. Just like the good ol' days back when bubblegum was a nickel and a ballplayer went home to his nice house with a white picket fence and had vanilla missionary sex with his cute little wife.
I highly doubt that Milton Bradley calling the douchebag fools in the bleachers on, well, being douchebag fools is hardly the reason the Cubs might see some lacking attendance. It might be, oh I don't know, the fact that they can't beat the shit-kicking Mets when they throw Nelson fucking Figueroa out there against them.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
Internet Chuck passed up an opportunity to gloat about Black Albie for sake of unnecessarily extending an already strained metaphor?
You suck at the internet, Internet Chuck.
Quote from: Fork on August 31, 2009, 07:39:43 AM
When's the MEP?
In a final, whimpering nut punch, mathematical elimination from both the division and wild card races will almost definitely come somewhere in the 9/14-9/23 stretch, while the Cubs are facing the Brewers and/or the Cardinals.
On the plus side, at least they're waiting until the Bears' regular season proper has started.
Hell, they
may even hold off on NLC elimination until the Hawks' preseason has begun.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on August 31, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
Internet Chuck passed up an opportunity to gloat about Black Albie for sake of unnecessarily extending an already strained metaphor?
You suck at the internet, Internet Chuck.
Quote from: Fork on August 31, 2009, 07:39:43 AM
When's the MEP?
In a final, whimpering nut punch, mathematical elimination from both the division and wild card races will almost definitely come somewhere in the 8/14-8/23 stretch, while the Cubs are facing the Brewers and/or the Cardinals.
On the plus side, at least they're waiting until the Bears' regular season proper has started.
Hell, they may even hold off on NLC elimination until the Hawks' preseason has begun.
They're going back in time to eliminate the Cubs?
Quote from: CT III on August 31, 2009, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on August 31, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
Internet Chuck passed up an opportunity to gloat about Black Albie for sake of unnecessarily extending an already strained metaphor?
You suck at the internet, Internet Chuck.
Quote from: Fork on August 31, 2009, 07:39:43 AM
When's the MEP?
In a final, whimpering nut punch, mathematical elimination from both the division and wild card races will almost definitely come somewhere in the 9/14-9/23 stretch, while the Cubs are facing the Brewers and/or the Cardinals.
On the plus side, at least they're waiting until the Bears' regular season proper has started.
Hell, they may even hold off on NLC elimination until the Hawks' preseason has begun.
They're going back in time to eliminate the Cubs?
No.
What are you talking about?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on August 31, 2009, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 31, 2009, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on August 31, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
Internet Chuck passed up an opportunity to gloat about Black Albie for sake of unnecessarily extending an already strained metaphor?
You suck at the internet, Internet Chuck.
Quote from: Fork on August 31, 2009, 07:39:43 AM
When's the MEP?
In a final, whimpering nut punch, mathematical elimination from both the division and wild card races will almost definitely come somewhere in the 9/14-9/23 stretch, while the Cubs are facing the Brewers and/or the Cardinals.
On the plus side, at least they're waiting until the Bears' regular season proper has started.
Hell, they may even hold off on NLC elimination until the Hawks' preseason has begun.
They're going back in time to eliminate the Cubs?
No.
What are you talking about?
Slick...slick.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on August 31, 2009, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on August 31, 2009, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 31, 2009, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on August 31, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
Internet Chuck passed up an opportunity to gloat about Black Albie for sake of unnecessarily extending an already strained metaphor?
You suck at the internet, Internet Chuck.
Quote from: Fork on August 31, 2009, 07:39:43 AM
When's the MEP?
In a final, whimpering nut punch, mathematical elimination from both the division and wild card races will almost definitely come somewhere in the 9/14-9/23 stretch, while the Cubs are facing the Brewers and/or the Cardinals.
On the plus side, at least they're waiting until the Bears' regular season proper has started.
Hell, they may even hold off on NLC elimination until the Hawks' preseason has begun.
They're going back in time to eliminate the Cubs?
No.
What are you talking about?
Slick...slick.
Seamless, eh?
Quote from: Jon on August 31, 2009, 12:53:37 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on August 31, 2009, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on August 31, 2009, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 31, 2009, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on August 31, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 30, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
THIS!
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/
If my salesman insinuated that his customers hated him, but couldn't back up the story with specifics (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/2500 comment: He needs to listen to a PR person), I'd never let the guy near another client again. He's hurting my brand.
Internet Chuck passed up an opportunity to gloat about Black Albie for sake of unnecessarily extending an already strained metaphor?
You suck at the internet, Internet Chuck.
Quote from: Fork on August 31, 2009, 07:39:43 AM
When's the MEP?
In a final, whimpering nut punch, mathematical elimination from both the division and wild card races will almost definitely come somewhere in the 9/14-9/23 stretch, while the Cubs are facing the Brewers and/or the Cardinals.
On the plus side, at least they're waiting until the Bears' regular season proper has started.
Hell, they may even hold off on NLC elimination until the Hawks' preseason has begun.
They're going back in time to eliminate the Cubs?
No.
What are you talking about?
Slick...slick.
Seamless, eh?
Brought a tear to me eye.
Seem.
And not really necessary. That was about when I stopped paying attention.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 31, 2009, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
It's not like I'm saying you have to love the Wrigley Experience or that you have to feel honored to be a fan. I don't give a fuck about that. Burn wrigley down for all I care. In fact, I hope that's the first thing Ricketts does. It would rid this team of some of the dumbest fucking sports fans on earth, which this organization desperately needs to do.
All I'm saying is something most would call common sense. If you're a fan of a team you want them to have the best team they can. Pretty simple. This is true whether you're a fan of the Cubs, Yankees, Cardinals or US Men's Gymnastics team. The only thing that fucking matters is wins.
The people who think the Cubs will be better without Bradley and/or Zambrano either don't give a shit about wins or are brain-dead. Either way, they're the same as Al Yellon and he's a fan of the brand and that's why he talks about it endlessly. He's a fan of what he believes the Cubs are or should be.
I'm not saying you're one of these people. I hope you aren't, but I've learned to expect the least from Cubs fans. 99% of them are too dumb to count past 1. I'm not telling you whether or not you're a fan. That's for you to figure out. I'm just saying what every rational person already knows. And everybody knows that if you want worse players that you don't care about winning ballgames. This isn't some made-up definition. It's been around for a really long time. I just think too many Cubs fans don't know what it means.
Quote from: MB21 on August 31, 2009, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 31, 2009, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
It's not like I'm saying you have to love the Wrigley Experience or that you have to feel honored to be a fan. I don't give a fuck about that. Burn wrigley down for all I care. In fact, I hope that's the first thing Ricketts does. It would rid this team of some of the dumbest fucking sports fans on earth, which this organization desperately needs to do.
All I'm saying is something most would call common sense. If you're a fan of a team you want them to have the best team they can. Pretty simple. This is true whether you're a fan of the Cubs, Yankees, Cardinals or US Men's Gymnastics team. The only thing that fucking matters is wins.
The people who think the Cubs will be better without Bradley and/or Zambrano either don't give a shit about wins or are brain-dead. Either way, they're the same as Al Yellon and he's a fan of the brand and that's why he talks about it endlessly. He's a fan of what he believes the Cubs are or should be.
I'm not saying you're one of these people. I hope you aren't, but I've learned to expect the least from Cubs fans. 99% of them are too dumb to count past 1. I'm not telling you whether or not you're a fan. That's for you to figure out. I'm just saying what every rational person already knows. And everybody knows that if you want worse players that you don't care about winning ballgames. This isn't some made-up definition. It's been around for a really long time. I just think too many Cubs fans don't know what it means.
Kerm's definitely one of those fans. I've never known anyone so fond of the mystique of Wrigley Field. He's always telling us how great the Cubbies would be if they just got the "right" players in there. You'll fit in well here.
Quote from: MB21 on August 31, 2009, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 31, 2009, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
It's not like I'm saying you have to love the Wrigley Experience or that you have to feel honored to be a fan. I don't give a fuck about that. Burn wrigley down for all I care. In fact, I hope that's the first thing Ricketts does. It would rid this team of some of the dumbest fucking sports fans on earth, which this organization desperately needs to do.
All I'm saying is something most would call common sense. If you're a fan of a team you want them to have the best team they can. Pretty simple. This is true whether you're a fan of the Cubs, Yankees, Cardinals or US Men's Gymnastics team. The only thing that fucking matters is wins.
The people who think the Cubs will be better without Bradley and/or Zambrano either don't give a shit about wins or are brain-dead. Either way, they're the same as Al Yellon and he's a fan of the brand and that's why he talks about it endlessly. He's a fan of what he believes the Cubs are or should be.
I'm not saying you're one of these people. I hope you aren't, but I've learned to expect the least from Cubs fans. 99% of them are too dumb to count past 1. I'm not telling you whether or not you're a fan. That's for you to figure out. I'm just saying what every rational person already knows. And everybody knows that if you want worse players that you don't care about winning ballgames. This isn't some made-up definition. It's been around for a really long time. I just think too many Cubs fans don't know what it means.
Preach on brosef. You da man now dog.
Quote from: MB21 on August 31, 2009, 10:46:21 PM
All I'm saying is something most would call common sense. If you're a fan of a team you want them to have the best team they can. Pretty simple. This is true whether you're a fan of the Cubs, Yankees, Cardinals or US Men's Gymnastics team. The only thing that fucking matters is wins.
I knew it, it's Niels Bukh.
Quote from: MB21 on August 31, 2009, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 31, 2009, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
It's not like I'm saying you have to love the Wrigley Experience or that you have to feel honored to be a fan. I don't give a fuck about that. Burn wrigley down for all I care. In fact, I hope that's the first thing Ricketts does. It would rid this team of some of the dumbest fucking sports fans on earth, which this organization desperately needs to do.
All I'm saying is something most would call common sense. If you're a fan of a team you want them to have the best team they can. Pretty simple. This is true whether you're a fan of the Cubs, Yankees, Cardinals or US Men's Gymnastics team. The only thing that fucking matters is wins.
The people who think the Cubs will be better without Bradley and/or Zambrano either don't give a shit about wins or are brain-dead. Either way, they're the same as Al Yellon and he's a fan of the brand and that's why he talks about it endlessly. He's a fan of what he believes the Cubs are or should be.
I'm not saying you're one of these people. I hope you aren't, but I've learned to expect the least from Cubs fans. 99% of them are too dumb to count past 1. I'm not telling you whether or not you're a fan. That's for you to figure out. I'm just saying what every rational person already knows. And everybody knows that if you want worse players that you don't care about winning ballgames. This isn't some made-up definition. It's been around for a really long time. I just think too many Cubs fans don't know what it means.
But Zambrano's 7-6 this year? Is that an ace? I think not. Wins don't matter to you? He should be 10-3 or something.
I'm not a fan of the Cubs, I just like their stadium.
Just like I don't really like people, I just pretend their my friend because I like their houses.
If they closed down Hi-Tops, they can tear down Wrigley Field.
Nothing's sacred anymore.
I don't like cocaine. I just like the way it smells.
I hate the fucking Cubs and everything they stand for.
Quote from: MB21 on August 31, 2009, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 31, 2009, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
It's not like I'm saying you have to love the Wrigley Experience or that you have to feel honored to be a fan. I don't give a fuck about that. Burn wrigley down for all I care. In fact, I hope that's the first thing Ricketts does. It would rid this team of some of the dumbest fucking sports fans on earth, which this organization desperately needs to do.
All I'm saying is something most would call common sense. If you're a fan of a team you want them to have the best team they can. Pretty simple. This is true whether you're a fan of the Cubs, Yankees, Cardinals or US Men's Gymnastics team. The only thing that fucking matters is wins.
The people who think the Cubs will be better without Bradley and/or Zambrano either don't give a shit about wins or are brain-dead. Either way, they're the same as Al Yellon and he's a fan of the brand and that's why he talks about it endlessly. He's a fan of what he believes the Cubs are or should be.
I'm not saying you're one of these people. I hope you aren't, but I've learned to expect the least from Cubs fans. 99% of them are too dumb to count past 1. I'm not telling you whether or not you're a fan. That's for you to figure out. I'm just saying what every rational person already knows. And everybody knows that if you want worse players that you don't care about winning ballgames. This isn't some made-up definition. It's been around for a really long time. I just think too many Cubs fans don't know what it means.
2!
Quote from: MB21 on August 31, 2009, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 31, 2009, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
It's not like I'm saying you have to love the Wrigley Experience or that you have to feel honored to be a fan. I don't give a fuck about that. Burn wrigley down for all I care. In fact, I hope that's the first thing Ricketts does. It would rid this team of some of the dumbest fucking sports fans on earth, which this organization desperately needs to do.
All I'm saying is something most would call common sense. If you're a fan of a team you want them to have the best team they can. Pretty simple. This is true whether you're a fan of the Cubs, Yankees, Cardinals or US Men's Gymnastics team. The only thing that fucking matters is wins.
The people who think the Cubs will be better without Bradley and/or Zambrano either don't give a shit about wins or are brain-dead. Either way, they're the same as Al Yellon and he's a fan of the brand and that's why he talks about it endlessly. He's a fan of what he believes the Cubs are or should be.
I'm not saying you're one of these people. I hope you aren't, but I've learned to expect the least from Cubs fans. 99% of them are too dumb to count past 1. I'm not telling you whether or not you're a fan. That's for you to figure out. I'm just saying what every rational person already knows. And everybody knows that if you want worse players that you don't care about winning ballgames. This isn't some made-up definition. It's been around for a really long time. I just think too many Cubs fans don't know what it means.
I separate my opinion of Bradley and Zambrano as players from my opinion of them as douchebags, so, yes, I agree with you.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 01, 2009, 10:29:27 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 31, 2009, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on August 31, 2009, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: MB21 on August 30, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
As far as cohesiveness goes, if there is a player on this team so affected by what Bradley is saying it's the affected player's problem and he must go. Everybody deals with pricks. If there's one person the Cubs who can't do that then they deserve to be fired.
This is actually really simple and it's amazing people don't get it.
Who gives a shit what Milton Bradley says or does. If you're a Cubs fans you don't care about that stuff. if you're a Wrigley fan or a Cubs fan fan then you probably do care about these things. Those people care about all sorts of nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the team that is playing in the park, but that's their choice. If that kind of stuff matters then wins and losses aren't what these people care about. I won't pretend to know what it is, but it sure as hell isn't how the team does. It's as simple as this: Milton Bradley is good at baseball and good players are better than bad players. There has never been and never will be a bad player who is better than a good player. Good player always better than bad player.
All I have to say is if you're one of these fans, fuck you. You deserve the ineptitude this organization has provided you and you deserve many more years of it. If the fans get what they want here, I'll be laughing my ass off at them as the Iowa Cubs take the field next year in Chicago. While we're giving he fans what they want can we please trade Zambrano for a bag of balls like Phil Rogers suggested? I look forward to the rotation of Dempster, Lilly, Wells, Samardzija and marshall in 2009. Good times.
I love when people tell me whether I am or am not a Cubs fan.
It's not like I'm saying you have to love the Wrigley Experience or that you have to feel honored to be a fan. I don't give a fuck about that. Burn wrigley down for all I care. In fact, I hope that's the first thing Ricketts does. It would rid this team of some of the dumbest fucking sports fans on earth, which this organization desperately needs to do.
All I'm saying is something most would call common sense. If you're a fan of a team you want them to have the best team they can. Pretty simple. This is true whether you're a fan of the Cubs, Yankees, Cardinals or US Men's Gymnastics team. The only thing that fucking matters is wins.
The people who think the Cubs will be better without Bradley and/or Zambrano either don't give a shit about wins or are brain-dead. Either way, they're the same as Al Yellon and he's a fan of the brand and that's why he talks about it endlessly. He's a fan of what he believes the Cubs are or should be.
I'm not saying you're one of these people. I hope you aren't, but I've learned to expect the least from Cubs fans. 99% of them are too dumb to count past 1. I'm not telling you whether or not you're a fan. That's for you to figure out. I'm just saying what every rational person already knows. And everybody knows that if you want worse players that you don't care about winning ballgames. This isn't some made-up definition. It's been around for a really long time. I just think too many Cubs fans don't know what it means.
I separate my opinion of Bradley and Zambrano as players from my opinion of them as douchebags, so, yes, I agree with you.
My only problem with this post is that the Cubs
would be better without Bradley.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:19:24 AM
My only problem with this post is that the Cubs would be better without Bradley.
How do you figure?
For starters: who plays RF?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 11:21:28 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:19:24 AM
My only problem with this post is that the Cubs would be better without Bradley.
How do you figure?
For starters: who plays RF?
I hate to go into "character" debates about ballplayers, since we largely don't know what happens inside the clubhouse. However, my Milton hate has spiked in recent days due to his own public comments. The vagueness of the racism accusations, the selfish narcissism, Lou's citation of this not being his best "chemistry" team (which I interpreted as a not so subtle comment on Milt), his selling out of his own teammates, and his all around craptacular play has really infuriated me. Listening to Bernstein's rant last Thursday really resonated with me, and I really suggest getting the podcast from that episode; it was fantastic.
Granted, I really don't know who or what would take up his place in right, seeing as this team has relatively little room for acquisitions. But I really believe he has to go. Also, statistically, they probably would be better without Bradley, seeing as his presence has hardly been known this year.
Fuck, I'd take the VORP Donkey at this point.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Also, statistically, they probably would be better without Bradley, seeing as his presence has hardly been known this year.
This:
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
Actually, more along the lines of this.
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/#1
Maybe a little bit of this too.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bradley-taking-the-fall
And, again, the Cubs would be better off without Bradley when they replace him with whom? That is, that:
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Granted, I really don't know who or what would take up his place in right, seeing as this team has relatively little room for acquisitions.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Fuck, I'd take the VORP Donkey at this point.
He's not a free agent until 2011.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Fuck, I'd take the VORP Donkey at this point.
He's not a free agent until 2011.
I don't think the Nationals would be too picky at this point. Hoff POWER might be enough to get the VORP Donkey.
That being said, keep Dunn the fuck away from Wrigley Field.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 11:21:28 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:19:24 AM
My only problem with this post is that the Cubs would be better without Bradley.
How do you figure?
For starters: who plays RF?
I hate to go into "character" debates about ballplayers, since we largely don't know what happens inside the clubhouse. However, my Milton hate has spiked in recent days due to his own public comments. The vagueness of the racism accusations, the selfish narcissism, Lou's citation of this not being his best "chemistry" team (which I interpreted as a not so subtle comment on Milt), his selling out of his own teammates, and his all around craptacular play has really infuriated me. Listening to Bernstein's rant last Thursday really resonated with me, and I really suggest getting the podcast from that episode; it was fantastic.
Granted, I really don't know who or what would take up his place in right, seeing as this team has relatively little room for acquisitions. But I really believe he has to go. Also, statistically, they probably would be better without Bradley, seeing as his presence has hardly been known this year.
Fuck, I'd take the VORP Donkey at this point.
You hate him more because you chose to interpret some vague thing Lou said about nobody in particular? You let your opinion be shaped by someone who's paid to babble loudly and incessantly regardless of fact or evidence?
His presence has hardly been known?
You'd allow VORP donkey to "field" in RF at Wrigley?
btw, I haven't seen any actual quotes about racism from Bradley's mouth. He referred to "hatred." The Tribune certainly threw race in there.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Also, statistically, they probably would be better without Bradley, seeing as his presence has hardly been known this year.
This:
Quote from: ChuckD on August 30, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
Actually, more along the lines of this.
http://www.anothercubsblog.net/index.php/site/comments/milton-bradley-is-my-underpaid-salesman/#1
Maybe a little bit of this too.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bradley-taking-the-fall
And, again, the Cubs would be better off without Bradley when they replace him with whom? That is, that:
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Granted, I really don't know who or what would take up his place in right, seeing as this team has relatively little room for acquisitions.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Fuck, I'd take the VORP Donkey at this point.
He's not a free agent until 2011.
I retract my claim of his statistical suckitude. Also, it is entirely correct that there are really no viable replacements for him in RF. However, that being said, his comments are beyond the pale and his wholesale indictment of Cubs fans really got my goat and I stand by my negative opinion and low regard of him professionally.
I think I'd be better able to stomach his antics if they were accompanied by the level of play that I saw last year.
Quote from: oog on September 01, 2009, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 11:21:28 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:19:24 AM
My only problem with this post is that the Cubs would be better without Bradley.
How do you figure?
For starters: who plays RF?
I hate to go into "character" debates about ballplayers, since we largely don't know what happens inside the clubhouse. However, my Milton hate has spiked in recent days due to his own public comments. The vagueness of the racism accusations, the selfish narcissism, Lou's citation of this not being his best "chemistry" team (which I interpreted as a not so subtle comment on Milt), his selling out of his own teammates, and his all around craptacular play has really infuriated me. Listening to Bernstein's rant last Thursday really resonated with me, and I really suggest getting the podcast from that episode; it was fantastic.
Granted, I really don't know who or what would take up his place in right, seeing as this team has relatively little room for acquisitions. But I really believe he has to go. Also, statistically, they probably would be better without Bradley, seeing as his presence has hardly been known this year.
Fuck, I'd take the VORP Donkey at this point.
You hate him more because you chose to interpret some vague thing Lou said about nobody in particular? You let your opinion be shaped by someone who's paid to babble loudly and incessantly regardless of fact or evidence?
His presence has hardly been known?
You'd allow VORP donkey to "field" in RF at Wrigley?
btw, I haven't seen any actual quotes about racism from Bradley's mouth. He referred to "hatred." The Tribune certainly threw race in there.
I would have appreciated if one of the reporters actually asked Lou what he meant by that comment. Also, anecdotally, who, amongst the Cubs' acquisitions this past year, would carry such baggage? Kevin Gregg? Aaron Miles? Those guys sure do seem like cancers to me.
Quote"It's never comfortable. It's hard to be comfortable when you don't get a hit and get booed every time. When I go home and look in the mirror, I like what I see. My family's there. I have people I can talk to who are very supportive in spite of everything and all the adversity and hatred you face on a daily basis. But I'll be all right. I always have."
The Trib threw race in there? A black man throws the word hatred out and there is a good chance that he isn't referring to just getting booed. Jacque did the same shit, ditto Latroy, ditto Dusty. It's a cop out for the boos. Also, why can't he substantiate the claim. Why can't he give us an example?
He's probably not going anywhere anyway, so the debate is academic. But he is an asshole of a baseball player.
One important caveat: I'm not ascribing any of his antics to the overall lack of production from Soriano, Soto, or any of the other players on the team.
Wait, wait, wait. Are we pretending that Milton's a good outfielder now?
Fuck that, I'll take the VORP Donkey 7 days a week over Milton.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
I would have appreciated if one of the reporters actually asked Lou what he meant by that comment. Also, anecdotally, who, amongst the Cubs' acquisitions this past year, would carry such baggage? Kevin Gregg? Aaron Miles? Those guys sure do seem like cancers to me.
Quote"It's never comfortable. It's hard to be comfortable when you don't get a hit and get booed every time. When I go home and look in the mirror, I like what I see. My family's there. I have people I can talk to who are very supportive in spite of everything and all the adversity and hatred you face on a daily basis. But I'll be all right. I always have."
The Trib threw race in there? A black man throws the word hatred out and there is a good chance that he isn't referring to just getting booed. Jacque did the same shit, ditto Latroy, ditto Dusty. It's a cop out for the boos. Also, why can't he substantiate the claim. Why can't he give us an example?
He's probably not going anywhere anyway, so the debate is academic. But he is an asshole of a baseball player.
One important caveat: I'm not ascribing any of his antics to the overall lack of production from Soriano, Soto, or any of the other players on the team.
What end does it serve to give specifics? Would it make you feel better to know that Bradley came out and said someone called him a "nigger" instead of simply implying it? Why does he need to get specific? You really think he hasn't been subjected to "hatred" at the hands of
some Cubs fans. Please note the emphasis as you claim he painted you with a broad brush -- he didn't (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-aug27,0,5478912.story). It was certainly news to you that Milton has managed to make good on his contract. I'm willing to assume that some of the many unintelligent Cubs fans are still oblivious to the fact. Dave Kaplan certainly refuses to believe it, pointing out his HR/RBI numbers and Bradley's refusal to go tanning with him or something. (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/2009/08/you-have-to-trade-rich-harden.html#comment-79007)
Why is he an asshole? He's been baited all year long because he has a reputation as a cancer and the Chicago media love to stir up controversy and sell papers. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Bradley takes the bait and lashes out, then he's a clubhouse cancer. If he doesn't and keeps his mouth shut, then he's an aloof quiet type who keeps to himself (read: not a "team player"). He can't win, yet you (who's a smart enough guy to "consider the source") buy into this bullshit. Milton and the Chicago press can't get along, so it's
Milton's fault. Unbelievable.
Fuck it. Let's follow the mouthbreathing faithful's advice. Release Bradley, and go get Brian Giles or the like. That'll be awesome.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: oog on September 01, 2009, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 11:21:28 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 11:19:24 AM
My only problem with this post is that the Cubs would be better without Bradley.
How do you figure?
For starters: who plays RF?
I hate to go into "character" debates about ballplayers, since we largely don't know what happens inside the clubhouse. However, my Milton hate has spiked in recent days due to his own public comments. The vagueness of the racism accusations, the selfish narcissism, Lou's citation of this not being his best "chemistry" team (which I interpreted as a not so subtle comment on Milt), his selling out of his own teammates, and his all around craptacular play has really infuriated me. Listening to Bernstein's rant last Thursday really resonated with me, and I really suggest getting the podcast from that episode; it was fantastic.
Granted, I really don't know who or what would take up his place in right, seeing as this team has relatively little room for acquisitions. But I really believe he has to go. Also, statistically, they probably would be better without Bradley, seeing as his presence has hardly been known this year.
Fuck, I'd take the VORP Donkey at this point.
You hate him more because you chose to interpret some vague thing Lou said about nobody in particular? You let your opinion be shaped by someone who's paid to babble loudly and incessantly regardless of fact or evidence?
His presence has hardly been known?
You'd allow VORP donkey to "field" in RF at Wrigley?
btw, I haven't seen any actual quotes about racism from Bradley's mouth. He referred to "hatred." The Tribune certainly threw race in there.
I would have appreciated if one of the reporters actually asked Lou what he meant by that comment. Also, anecdotally, who, amongst the Cubs' acquisitions this past year, would carry such baggage? Kevin Gregg? Aaron Miles? Those guys sure do seem like cancers to me.
Quote"It's never comfortable. It's hard to be comfortable when you don't get a hit and get booed every time. When I go home and look in the mirror, I like what I see. My family's there. I have people I can talk to who are very supportive in spite of everything and all the adversity and hatred you face on a daily basis. But I'll be all right. I always have."
The Trib threw race in there? A black man throws the word hatred out and there is a good chance that he isn't referring to just getting booed. Jacque did the same shit, ditto Latroy, ditto Dusty. It's a cop out for the boos. Also, why can't he substantiate the claim. Why can't he give us an example?
He's probably not going anywhere anyway, so the debate is academic. But he is an asshole of a baseball player.
One important caveat: I'm not ascribing any of his antics to the overall lack of production from Soriano, Soto, or any of the other players on the team.
If you want to interpret his referring to boos and then hatred (to qualify the boos) as a black man playing the race card, fine. The Tribune headline "Milton Bradley's accusations of racism at Wrigley Field: Cubs fans say they haven't heard such taunts" would suggest you aren't alone. But anyone can say that being booed means being hated. Others have to impute meaning beyond that.
Hendry has said he wants players who want to be on the team. If Bradley asks to be traded, Hendry will probably try to trade him. Bradley's no saint, but this isn't some hobgoblin he conjured out of the aether.
If A is a clubhouse cancer, and B's performance is worse for it, you fire => B
Quote from: CT III on September 01, 2009, 12:47:55 PM
Wait, wait, wait. Are we pretending that Milton's a good outfielder now?
Fuck that, I'll take the VORP Donkey 7 days a week over Milton.
8 Errors, 2 Assists, .974 FP, and -21.4 UZR.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
Why is he an asshole? He's been baited all year long because he has a reputation as a cancer and the Chicago media love to stir up controversy and sell papers. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Bradley takes the bait and lashes out, then he's a clubhouse cancer. If he doesn't and keeps his mouth shut, then he's an aloof quiet type who keeps to himself (read: not a "team player"). He can't win, yet you (who's a smart enough guy to "consider the source") buy into this bullshit. Milton and the Chicago press can't get along, so it's Milton's fault. Unbelievable.
THE DAMN LIBRUL MEDIA!
I think this is a bit of a cop out.
Many members of the Chicago media have actually sat on Milton stories that the Cubs asked them to sit on (such as the story in May that, when asked how he felt after hitting .200 for the first month of the season, he responded "I feel like 30 million bucks."). Its way too easy to blame a nebulous media for all that has gone wrong with this guy. Remember, this is the guy who:
1. Has said he doesn't have friends in the Cubs' clubhouse.
2. Got called a "piece of shit" by his manager. The manager also has said about him: "We pay this guy $30 million and its never his fault."
3. Battled with fans.
I'm sure the media has blown the story up a bit, but to claim that the year Bradley has had off the field is anything but an unmitigated disaster and the fault lies mostly with him is being a little too Sarah Palin.
While the idea of Adam Dunn patrolling right field scores high in the "potential for unintentional hilarity" category, that's probably not what Hendry's looking for in an outfielder.
Specifics matter because he's painting with such a tremendously big brush, uniformly castigating nearly every Cubs fan who comes to Wrigley. If he has specifics, call them out to security and get them out of there. If not, then simply play through it.
Citing the article you mentioned, let's parse out his exact words. Where is he mitigating or qualifying his comments?
Quote"I'm talking about hatred, period," he said. "I'm talking about when I go to eat at a restaurant, I have to listen to the waiters bad-mouthing me at another table, sitting in a restaurant, that's what I'm talking about -- everything."
Quote"What can you do?" he said. "You can't do nothing. You listen to them yell at you."
Quote"I don't regret anything," he replied. "I regret there are idiots in the world. That's what I regret."
After making his remarks, Bradley suggested this kind of behavior is commonplace, and that the Chicago media is well aware of it.
"It's not an issue," he said. "It's nothing brand-new. It's nothing that just started when Milton Bradley came here. It's the same stuff [the media] wrote about at the beginning of the year. It's not like it's a surprise or a shock or brand-new to me or anyone else. That's the way it has been. It's not a brand-new story. There's nothing new to write about."
So, put succinctly, Milton said, "Oh, you know, it's everything, it's they, them, the other guy, the idiots. It commonplace, though. It's not new. You know what's going on, wink wink, nudge nudge."
That's a pretty general and sweeping statement. Come up with some concrete, Milt.
Second, you make an absurd dialectic here in re: the media's treatment of Milt. Either he acts like his normal self and the media writes about that, or he doesn't and they say he's quiet. No, how about Milt saying, at the beginning of the year, "I'm going to reform my image, etc. etc." What does the media report then, "Bradley wants to reshape image."
If he then fails, he fails, and is an asshole. If he succeeds, then he wins some humanitarian award or whatever. However, it is not the media's fault that Milton Bradley is an asshole.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
The Trib threw race in there? A black man throws the word hatred out and there is a good chance that he isn't referring to just getting booed. Jacque did the same shit, ditto Latroy, ditto Dusty. It's a cop out for the boos. Also, why can't he substantiate the claim. Why can't he give us an example?
Or maybe...just
maybe, Cubs fans are actually racist.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 01, 2009, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
The Trib threw race in there? A black man throws the word hatred out and there is a good chance that he isn't referring to just getting booed. Jacque did the same shit, ditto Latroy, ditto Dusty. It's a cop out for the boos. Also, why can't he substantiate the claim. Why can't he give us an example?
Or maybe...just maybe, Cubs fans are actually racist.
Or, maybe it's a legitimate question as to why he can't substantiate the claim. Though, I'd guess it's a mix of both.
Just as a point of reference, Ted Williams, Reggie Jackson and Ty Cobb were all assholes as well. I'm not saying Bradley's production is on their level. Would Gil (or anyone else who hates Bradley's attitude) take any of these guys on the team? Is that the cutoff for when you'd deal with a "clubhouse cancer" (whetever the fuck that means), a Hall of Famer? Where is that cutoff? What kind of production would make one forget that player A is an asshole?
Is any of this a story if his OPS is .999?
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 01:19:36 PM
Citing the article you mentioned, let's parse out his exact words.
I don't think parsing out Milton Bradley's exact words is going to shed light on anything. I don't think he's the kind of guy who calculates his sentences all that carefully.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 01, 2009, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 01, 2009, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
The Trib threw race in there? A black man throws the word hatred out and there is a good chance that he isn't referring to just getting booed. Jacque did the same shit, ditto Latroy, ditto Dusty. It's a cop out for the boos. Also, why can't he substantiate the claim. Why can't he give us an example?
Or maybe...just maybe, Cubs fans are actually racist.
Or, maybe it's a legitimate question as to why he can't substantiate the claim. Though, I'd guess it's a mix of both.
Or maybe he realized that once he went down the race card road there was no turning back and he knew it wasn't the Golden Road to Unlimited Devotion so he decided it wasn't worth it.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 01, 2009, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
The Trib threw race in there? A black man throws the word hatred out and there is a good chance that he isn't referring to just getting booed. Jacque did the same shit, ditto Latroy, ditto Dusty. It's a cop out for the boos. Also, why can't he substantiate the claim. Why can't he give us an example?
Or maybe...just maybe, Cubs fans are actually racist.
Some probably are, but white guys have been booed before and run out of town. Todd Hundley, Jeff Blauser, (I hope) Aaron Miles just to name a few.
But can't the same be said for any major American city? Philly? Dallas? I mean, I find it hard to believe that this is a uniquely Chicago phenomenon.
And to answer Oleg's question, first all, Ty Cobb is not simply an asshole. Didn't he actually kill a man in the stands? But beyond that point, I think we need to separate Bradley's assholishness from these racial accusations. If Bradley's hitting like Ibanez, then I don't care about him being an asshole. However, if he is hitting like Ibanez and cries racism, then I still apply the same analysis, probably even more so, because it's pure racism, as opposed to mixed motive racism.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
What end does it serve to give specifics? Would it make you feel better to know that Bradley came out and said someone called him a "nigger" instead of simply implying it? Why does he need to get specific? You really think he hasn't been subjected to "hatred" at the hands of some Cubs fans. Please note the emphasis as you claim he painted you with a broad brush -- he didn't (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-aug27,0,5478912.story). It was certainly news to you that Milton has managed to make good on his contract. I'm willing to assume that some of the many unintelligent Cubs fans are still oblivious to the fact. Dave Kaplan certainly refuses to believe it, pointing out his HR/RBI numbers and Bradley's refusal to go tanning with him or something. (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/2009/08/you-have-to-trade-rich-harden.html#comment-79007)
Why is he an asshole? He's been baited all year long because he has a reputation as a cancer and the Chicago media love to stir up controversy and sell papers. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Bradley takes the bait and lashes out, then he's a clubhouse cancer. If he doesn't and keeps his mouth shut, then he's an aloof quiet type who keeps to himself (read: not a "team player"). He can't win, yet you (who's a smart enough guy to "consider the source") buy into this bullshit. Milton and the Chicago press can't get along, so it's Milton's fault. Unbelievable.
Fuck it. Let's follow the mouthbreathing faithful's advice. Release Bradley, and go get Brian Giles or the like. That'll be awesome.
Look, I agree with you that Milton's production has been fine. Not $10M worth of fine, but better than Dave Kaplan is pretending it's been. But to argue that he's anything other than a total sociopath is ludicrous at this point. Milton's attitude problems are not some Chicago media invention, unless you're suggesting the media in LA, Texas, Oakland, Cleveland, and everywhere else is in on it, too. Milton is a dick, and I can't fathom why you're arguing otherwise. Now, I'm just speaking for myself here, but calling him an asshole doesn't mean I want to get rid of him. I think he can exist in Chicago, and I would love to see him hitting second next year. But he's a fucking dick. So was Sammy. So was Santo. Why are you so intent on arguing that he's some misunderstood lamb?
All this being said, everyone knew he was a shithead coming into Chicago. Some people hated him right off the bat, because he "replaced" DeRosa. People like you, me, and I'm sure a lot of people on this board tried their best to accept him. Some of the people in that latter category gave up on driving his bandwagon, because he has given us every reason to think he's a temperamental asshole. That doesn't mean I don't want him on the team. It just means I'm not going to buy a Milton Bradley jersey any time soon.
Quote from: Oleg on September 01, 2009, 01:25:47 PM
Just as a point of reference, Ted Williams, Reggie Jackson and Ty Cobb were all assholes as well.
Maybe Bradley's being heckled by the ghost of Cap Anson.
Quote from: fiveouts on September 01, 2009, 01:17:01 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
Why is he an asshole? He's been baited all year long because he has a reputation as a cancer and the Chicago media love to stir up controversy and sell papers. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Bradley takes the bait and lashes out, then he's a clubhouse cancer. If he doesn't and keeps his mouth shut, then he's an aloof quiet type who keeps to himself (read: not a "team player"). He can't win, yet you (who's a smart enough guy to "consider the source") buy into this bullshit. Milton and the Chicago press can't get along, so it's Milton's fault. Unbelievable.
THE DAMN LIBRUL MEDIA!
I think this is a bit of a cop out.
Many members of the Chicago media have actually sat on Milton stories that the Cubs asked them to sit on (such as the story in May that, when asked how he felt after hitting .200 for the first month of the season, he responded "I feel like 30 million bucks."). Its way too easy to blame a nebulous media for all that has gone wrong with this guy.
I didn't say he was faultless. I don't mean to place the blame entirely on the media, but it certainly seems that his reputation caused some different treatment. They want a story and they know if they stickpoke Milton, he'll give them something because the narrative is already established.
Quote1. Has said he doesn't have friends in the Cubs' clubhouse.
First, you're misquoting. And although the meaning is technically correct, you're attributing a sentiment to him that sounds completely antagonistic since you've removed the context.
QuoteBradley said the Cubs are a "good group of guys," but he hasn't formed any real relationships yet.
"The teammates, they're there and they say all the right things," he said. "But it's just [small talk]."
"People are always watching and looking at everything I'm doing," he said. "My personality is more of a guy [who likes to] go unnoticed — to show up, do my job and go home, and really not have a whole lot of hoopla about it.
"I'm really not a guy who's seeking any attention. I'm not seeking to be noted, like 'Milton Bradley and the Chicago Cubs.' I don't want that. I just want to be part of a group and fit in and just love and be loved. That's the basis of what I am.
Quote2. Got called a "piece of shit" by his manager. The manager also has said about him: "We pay this guy $30 million and its never his fault."
Again, you're taking something (said in the heat of the moment, no less) completely out of context.
Said after the confrontation:
QuoteBradley: "I got a ton of respect for Lou," Bradley said. "When he says something, I really take heed and listen to it, not just the tone or the exact words but the sentiment behind it. I really think he had a heartfelt talk with me in his office, and I think we are both better for it."
Oh, hey. Context. Novel idea.
QuoteLou: "I think this young man has put a lot of pressure on himself. I think he needs to relax and let his ability flow," Piniella said. "He's trying too hard and he's fighting it and that just compounds the problem over and over. Yesterday I had had enough, what can I say?"
QuoteLou again: "I apologized for the last comment I made, told him he knows in the context I meant it. But I also told him that just can't continue, to have shenanigans that we've put up with. I told him he's going to hurt somebody, he's going to hurt himself."
Quote3. Battled with fans.
Not really sure what you're referencing here.
Edited for green font.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 01, 2009, 01:35:19 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
What end does it serve to give specifics? Would it make you feel better to know that Bradley came out and said someone called him a "nigger" instead of simply implying it? Why does he need to get specific? You really think he hasn't been subjected to "hatred" at the hands of some Cubs fans. Please note the emphasis as you claim he painted you with a broad brush -- he didn't (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-aug27,0,5478912.story). It was certainly news to you that Milton has managed to make good on his contract. I'm willing to assume that some of the many unintelligent Cubs fans are still oblivious to the fact. Dave Kaplan certainly refuses to believe it, pointing out his HR/RBI numbers and Bradley's refusal to go tanning with him or something. (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/2009/08/you-have-to-trade-rich-harden.html#comment-79007)
Why is he an asshole? He's been baited all year long because he has a reputation as a cancer and the Chicago media love to stir up controversy and sell papers. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Bradley takes the bait and lashes out, then he's a clubhouse cancer. If he doesn't and keeps his mouth shut, then he's an aloof quiet type who keeps to himself (read: not a "team player"). He can't win, yet you (who's a smart enough guy to "consider the source") buy into this bullshit. Milton and the Chicago press can't get along, so it's Milton's fault. Unbelievable.
Fuck it. Let's follow the mouthbreathing faithful's advice. Release Bradley, and go get Brian Giles or the like. That'll be awesome.
Look, I agree with you that Milton's production has been fine. Not $10M worth of fine, but better than Dave Kaplan is pretending it's been. But to argue that he's anything other than a total sociopath is ludicrous at this point. Milton's attitude problems are not some Chicago media invention, unless you're suggesting the media in LA, Texas, Oakland, Cleveland, and everywhere else is in on it, too. Milton is a dick, and I can't fathom why you're arguing otherwise. Now, I'm just speaking for myself here, but calling him an asshole doesn't mean I want to get rid of him. I think he can exist in Chicago, and I would love to see him hitting second next year. But he's a fucking dick. So was Sammy. So was Santo. Why are you so intent on arguing that he's some misunderstood lamb?
All this being said, everyone knew he was a shithead coming into Chicago. Some people hated him right off the bat, because he "replaced" DeRosa. People like you, me, and I'm sure a lot of people on this board tried their best to accept him. Some of the people in that latter category gave up on driving his bandwagon, because he has given us every reason to think he's a temperamental asshole. That doesn't mean I don't want him on the team. It just means I'm not going to buy a Milton Bradley jersey any time soon.
THIS.
You should have your own blog with articles on it.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 01, 2009, 01:35:19 PM
Look, I agree with you that Milton's production has been fine. Not $10M worth of fine, but better than Dave Kaplan is pretending it's been.
Correct. His production has been better than the $6.3 million he's being paid for this year. But not better than the $10 million he's hypothetically being paid this year.
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But to argue that he's anything other than a total sociopath is ludicrous at this point. Milton's attitude problems are not some Chicago media invention, unless you're suggesting the media in LA, Texas, Oakland, Cleveland, and everywhere else is in on it, too. Milton is a dick, and I can't fathom why you're arguing otherwise. Now, I'm just speaking for myself here, but calling him an asshole doesn't mean I want to get rid of him. I think he can exist in Chicago, and I would love to see him hitting second next year. But he's a fucking dick. So was Sammy. So was Santo. Why are you so intent on arguing that he's some misunderstood lamb?
All this being said, everyone knew he was a shithead coming into Chicago. Some people hated him right off the bat, because he "replaced" DeRosa. People like you, me, and I'm sure a lot of people on this board tried their best to accept him. Some of the people in that latter category gave up on driving his bandwagon, because he has given us every reason to think he's a temperamental asshole. That doesn't mean I don't want him on the team. It just means I'm not going to buy a Milton Bradley jersey any time soon.
"Sociopath" is a strong word. Milton's no saint -- few ballplayers are -- but I certainly don't think he's a sociopath. The fact that he's consistently shown remorse should be a strong indicator to the contrary. He's got some anger issues, sure. Temperamental? Absolutely. He also probably had a pretty shitty upbringing from what I hear, so that's to be expected. He's been alienated for the better part of his life and so he's isolated himself. I seem to recall that even he acknowledged as much. But from the interviews I've seen, no, he doesn't appear to be an asshole.
He comes off as a guy who doesn't want attention, but happens to excel at an occupation that comes with a big amount of public interaction. That being said, I try to not watch the Cubs. Maybe he is an asshole and I've just missed it. Maybe he's an asshole because he doesn't like to participate in homoerotic shenanigans. Maybe he's a huge jerk and he took a dump on Studs Terkel's grave or something. Whatever he is, I guess I don't particularly care all that much. So long as he earns his check, he's fine in my book.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 01:30:44 PM
Ty Cobb is not simply an asshole. Didn't he actually kill a man in the stands?
Wha wha wha what?
I'm pretty sure that even in the old-timey days, murder, as witnessed by hundreds of fans, would likely have ended Cobb's career, no matter how great he was.
I would like to subscribe to Gil's baseball history. Sounds much more colorful than the one I was brought up on, wherein Cobb merely beat fans up.
Quote from: MAD on September 01, 2009, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 01:30:44 PM
Ty Cobb is not simply an asshole. Didn't he actually kill a man in the stands?
Wha wha wha what?
I'm pretty sure that even in the old-timey days, murder, as witnessed by hundreds of fans, would likely have ended Cobb's career, no matter how great he was.
I would like to subscribe to Gil's baseball history. Sounds much more colorful than the one I was brought up on, wherein Cobb merely beat fans up.
In Gil's history, Cobb's worst crime was allowing any of a number of animals to defecate in outhouses that were clearly meant for human bodily waste only.
Quote from: MAD on September 01, 2009, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 01, 2009, 01:30:44 PM
Ty Cobb is not simply an asshole. Didn't he actually kill a man in the stands?
Wha wha wha what?
I'm pretty sure that even in the old-timey days, murder, as witnessed by hundreds of fans, would likely have ended Cobb's career, no matter how great he was.
I would like to subscribe to Gil's baseball history. Sounds much more colorful than the one I was brought up on, wherein Cobb merely beat fans up.
http://boards.history.com/topic/Baseball/Did-Ty-Cobb/600016730
QuoteDid Ty Cobb get away with murder?
On another topic someone said Ty Cobb murdered someone and was never prosicuted. Is this true? TRAVIS
QuoteThis story is not completely correct, and it continues to circulate and tarnish Cobb's image. Al Stump first reported it and he never bothered to investigate the claim. Here's what we know: in 1912, after Cobb's infamous run-in with heckler Claude Lucker in New York, which resulted in the Tigers going on strike, Cobb and his wife were ambushed by three men in Detroit. They were not going to the ballpark in Detroit, but were driving to the train station so Cobb could travel to Syracuse to play an exhibition game. The men acted as if their automobile was broken down, and waved down Cobb. When Cobb got out of his car, the men attacked him. Cobb brandished a gun and chased one of the men who was fleeing. According to Stump, Cobb claimed in 1961, that he killed that man in an alley. This is highly unlikely, since no bodies were found in Detroit during this period that match that story. Most likely, though we'll never know, Cobb fought the three men, chased one down and may have pistol-whipped him. But he almost certainly didn't kill a man. The attack was reported in the papers and the Tiger trainer stitched Cobb up on the train, so it would have been news if a body had been found in an alley or a street in Detroit
On the other hand, another poster does offer a compelling counterargument...
Quotei heard he stabbed a african american man before, but i dont know if its true, but in my opinion yes, i think he did.
You're discussing Great Assholes in Baseball History and no Rogers Hornsby?
Also, Tris Speaker was a Klansman.
So, there's that.
Adding...
http://www.sabr.org/cmsfiles/Ty_Cobb_Memorial_Collection-Text.htm
QuoteIn 1996, writing for the SABR publication, The National Pastime, on pp. 25-28, "Ty Cobb Did Not Commit Murder", Doug Roberts tells of his own personal research into this issue. Doug was a lawyer, who specialized in forensics, was into criminal law, and had started his career as a prosecutor. So to satisfy his own curiosity, he plunged into his research.
To make a long article shorter, Doug went to Detroit, to the Detroit Medical Examiner's office, and sat and reviewed all the autopsy records on microfilm for August and September, 1912. They also visited the archives where the coroner's files for that year were stored. The records included name, location, age, cause. They contained no victim even remotely resembling a man dying of blunt trauma to the skull. The examination of the Medical Examiner's records occurred in Jan. 1994. He also reviewed all the Detroit newspapers for the weeks following the mugging, specially looking for that press report.
After two days of painstaking microfilm viewing, he could find no mention in any of the Detroit papers of such a discovery. So Doug Roberts concludes that in the absence of a body, no homicide can be just assumed, even if an incensed man brags, in a state of intoxication, that he killed someone. Drunk men are known to blow steam & smoke.
...
In his 1996 National Pastime article, Doug Roberts goes on to provide us with the following further information as to motive. "Although Ty had told the Syracuse Journal reporter that the attack was anonymous and unexpected, it appears to have been anything but." Evidence he uncovered in the Cooperstown's Ty Cobb file and from the Detroit newspaper accounts of the incident strongly suggested that Ty was attacked for specific reason. Also that he knew why it happened, and that he knew who had arranged it.
Several days before the stabbing incident, Ty had gotten into an argument with a newsboy named "Scabby" over a craps game in the Detroit clubhouse. Ty gave the youth a beating, and his attack several days later was in retaliation by Scabby's gang friends for the beating which he had administered on the youth. Apparently, after the mugging, Ty met the newsboy alone again and gave him a beating.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 01:55:39 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 01, 2009, 01:35:19 PM
Look, I agree with you that Milton's production has been fine. Not $10M worth of fine, but better than Dave Kaplan is pretending it's been.
Correct. His production has been better than the $6.3 million he's being paid for this year. But not better than the $10 million he's hypothetically being paid this year.
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But to argue that he's anything other than a total sociopath is ludicrous at this point. Milton's attitude problems are not some Chicago media invention, unless you're suggesting the media in LA, Texas, Oakland, Cleveland, and everywhere else is in on it, too. Milton is a dick, and I can't fathom why you're arguing otherwise. Now, I'm just speaking for myself here, but calling him an asshole doesn't mean I want to get rid of him. I think he can exist in Chicago, and I would love to see him hitting second next year. But he's a fucking dick. So was Sammy. So was Santo. Why are you so intent on arguing that he's some misunderstood lamb?
All this being said, everyone knew he was a shithead coming into Chicago. Some people hated him right off the bat, because he "replaced" DeRosa. People like you, me, and I'm sure a lot of people on this board tried their best to accept him. Some of the people in that latter category gave up on driving his bandwagon, because he has given us every reason to think he's a temperamental asshole. That doesn't mean I don't want him on the team. It just means I'm not going to buy a Milton Bradley jersey any time soon.
"Sociopath" is a strong word. Milton's no saint -- few ballplayers are -- but I certainly don't think he's a sociopath. The fact that he's consistently shown remorse should be a strong indicator to the contrary. He's got some anger issues, sure. Temperamental? Absolutely. He also probably had a pretty shitty upbringing from what I hear, so that's to be expected. He's been alienated for the better part of his life and so he's isolated himself. I seem to recall that even he acknowledged as much. But from the interviews I've seen, no, he doesn't appear to be an asshole.
He comes off as a guy who doesn't want attention, but happens to excel at an occupation that comes with a big amount of public interaction. That being said, I try to not watch the Cubs. Maybe he is an asshole and I've just missed it. Maybe he's an asshole because he doesn't like to participate in homoerotic shenanigans. Maybe he's a huge jerk and he took a dump on Studs Terkel's grave or something. Whatever he is, I guess I don't particularly care all that much. So long as he earns his check, he's fine in my book.
I thought he got a $4M signing bonus and $5M for the 2009 season according to Cot's. I don't know where you got your number.
I'll stand behind my "sociopath" comment. Since you're intent on mincing words, the WHO describes the symptoms of dissocial personality disorder (http://www.who.int/classifications/icd/en/GRNBOOK.pdf) as:
(1) Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
(2) Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
(3) Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty to establish them.
(4) Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
(5) Incapacity to experience guilt, or to profit from adverse experience, particularly punishment.
(6) Marked proneness to blame others, or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behaviour bringing the subject into conflict with society.
I think definitely a few of those are dead on in describing Milton's behavior. But if you want to just nitpick at words, I guess I'm done with this argument, because that's annoying.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 01:37:38 PM
Again, you're taking something (said in the heat of the moment, no less) completely out of context.
Said after the confrontation:
QuoteBradley: "I got a ton of respect for Lou," Bradley said. "When he says something, I really take heed and listen to it, not just the tone or the exact words but the sentiment behind it. I really think he had a heartfelt talk with me in his office, and I think we are both better for it."
Oh, hey. Context. Novel idea.
QuoteLou: "I think this young man has put a lot of pressure on himself. I think he needs to relax and let his ability flow," Piniella said. "He's trying too hard and he's fighting it and that just compounds the problem over and over. Yesterday I had had enough, what can I say?"
QuoteLou again: "I apologized for the last comment I made, told him he knows in the context I meant it. But I also told him that just can't continue, to have shenanigans that we've put up with. I told him he's going to hurt somebody, he's going to hurt himself."
I guess I'm a little more skeptical of statements made after the PR people get involved. You call it "context," I call it "damage control".
The Cubs suck.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 01, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
I think definitely a few of those are dead on in describing Milton's behavior. But if you want to just nitpick at words, I guess I'm done with this argument, because that's annoying.
I'm not nitpicking. "Sociopath" is a specific diagnosis, not a blanket descriptor for every jerk with an attitude problem. Even you genuinelly consider Milton to be a "sociopath", then I guess I'm at a loss for why he would also be an asshole. The behavior would be largely out of his control. Wouldn't that be a reason to be more empathetic toward his plight?
In any event, I didn't intend to be confrontational toward you as we seem to be of the same basic opinion. We both think he's earned his contract. You want him to shut up. I don't really care one way or the other if he shuts up.
My main problem with the Milton issue is the perception that he hasn't earned his contract. It's flawed and been proven untrue, yet it continues to be publicized because people who don't understand player valuation are throwing around HR and RBI totals.
I can certainly agree with you that this argument is stupid. Here's a scantily-clad lass:
(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1573/marisamillerredapr04.jpg)
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 01, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
I think definitely a few of those are dead on in describing Milton's behavior. But if you want to just nitpick at words, I guess I'm done with this argument, because that's annoying.
I'm not nitpicking. "Sociopath" is a specific diagnosis, not a blanket descriptor for every jerk with an attitude problem. Even you genuinelly consider Milton to be a "sociopath", then I guess I'm at a loss for why he would also be an asshole. The behavior would be largely out of his control. Wouldn't that be a reason to be more empathetic toward his plight?
In any event, I didn't intend to be confrontational toward you as we seem to be of the same basic opinion. We both think he's earned his contract. You want him to shut up. I don't really care one way or the other if he shuts up.
My main problem with the Milton issue is the perception that he hasn't earned his contract. It's flawed and been proven untrue, yet it continues to be publicized because people who don't understand player valuation are throwing around HR and RBI totals.
I can certainly agree with you that this argument is stupid. Here's a scantily-clad lass:
(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1573/marisamillerredapr04.jpg)
Nitpicking.
Quote from: Slak on September 01, 2009, 03:34:03 PM
Nitpicking.
God damn you, Slaky. Don't make me post more tits.
[sarcasm]Oh, I'm sure many a ballplayer has had someone knock off another for him. I can't prove it, but I feel that it is true.[/sarcasm]
I guess the story I always remembered was that the heckler later died from his injuries. Good research, though.
I do have a crazy interpretation of baseball history. And keep your damn cats away from my damn toilet. My foaeces only!!!
Ahh, the continuing Milton Bradley saga. In other words, Go Bears.
Quote from: Slak on September 01, 2009, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 03:35:13 PM
Quote from: Slak on September 01, 2009, 03:34:03 PM
Nitpicking.
God damn you, Slaky. Don't make me post more tits.
Hey, I can't make you do anything.
Do you see what happens, Slaky? Do you see what happens when you find a misspelling in that post?
This is what happens, Slaky.
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3687/marisamillerredapr05.jpg)
This is what happens.
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3046/marisamillerredapr03.jpg)
This is what happens when you find a misspelling in that post.
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2194/marisamillerredapr02.jpg)
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 01, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
I think definitely a few of those are dead on in describing Milton's behavior. But if you want to just nitpick at words, I guess I'm done with this argument, because that's annoying.
I'm not nitpicking. "Sociopath" is a specific diagnosis, not a blanket descriptor for every jerk with an attitude problem. Even you genuinelly consider Milton to be a "sociopath", then I guess I'm at a loss for why he would also be an asshole. The behavior would be largely out of his control. Wouldn't that be a reason to be more empathetic toward his plight?
In any event, I didn't intend to be confrontational toward you as we seem to be of the same basic opinion. We both think he's earned his contract. You want him to shut up. I don't really care one way or the other if he shuts up.
My main problem with the Milton issue is the perception that he hasn't earned his contract. It's flawed and been proven untrue, yet it continues to be publicized because people who don't understand player valuation are throwing around HR and RBI totals.
I can certainly agree with you that this argument is stupid. Here's a scantily-clad lass:
(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1573/marisamillerredapr04.jpg)
I disagree with everything, even though we seem to have come to a consensus. Photo please?
Um...I too, think Chuck D is nitpicking....
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 03:43:35 PM
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3687/marisamillerredapr05.jpg)
She's doing a lousy job of watering that lawn.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 01, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 01, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
I think definitely a few of those are dead on in describing Milton's behavior. But if you want to just nitpick at words, I guess I'm done with this argument, because that's annoying.
I'm not nitpicking. "Sociopath" is a specific diagnosis, not a blanket descriptor for every jerk with an attitude problem. Even you genuinelly consider Milton to be a "sociopath", then I guess I'm at a loss for why he would also be an asshole. The behavior would be largely out of his control. Wouldn't that be a reason to be more empathetic toward his plight?
In any event, I didn't intend to be confrontational toward you as we seem to be of the same basic opinion. We both think he's earned his contract. You want him to shut up. I don't really care one way or the other if he shuts up.
My main problem with the Milton issue is the perception that he hasn't earned his contract. It's flawed and been proven untrue, yet it continues to be publicized because people who don't understand player valuation are throwing around HR and RBI totals.
I can certainly agree with you that this argument is stupid. Here's a scantily-clad lass:
(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1573/marisamillerredapr04.jpg)
Final comments, and then proceed to continue posting more glorious pictures. A sociopath IS defined as "One who is affected with a personality disorder marked by antisocial behavior." What WHO described up there was antisocial behavior and was pretty spot-on when you look at Milton's history. I think it's totally fair to use that word. He may not be diagnosed as a sociopath, but that's probably only because he threw a Gatorade cooler at his shrink before he could write it down. As for empathy, eh. That's not my thing.
Quote from: Jon on September 01, 2009, 03:45:05 PM
Um...I too, think Chuck D is nitpicking....
Hmpf. Jon never picked a nitpicker in his life.
If we're going to go ahead and armchair diagnose Crazy Milton with a severe personality disorder, I think we ought to do our due diligence and consider all the required diagnostic criteria.
From the ICD DCR-10 Kerm linked...
QuoteF60 SPECIFIC PERSONALITY DISORDERS
G1. Evidence that the individual's characteristic and enduring patterns of inner experience and behaviour deviate markedly as a whole from the culturally expected and accepted range (or 'norm'). Such deviation must be manifest in more than one of the following areas:
(1) cognition (i.e. ways of perceiving and interpreting things, people and events; forming attitudes and images of self and others);
(2) affectivity (range, intensity and appropriateness of emotional arousaland response);
(3) control over impulses and need gratification;
(4) relating to others and manner of handling interpersonal situations.
G2. The deviation must manifest itself pervasively as behaviour that is inflexible, maladaptive, or otherwise dysfunctional across a broad range of personal and social situations (i.e. not being limited to one specific 'triggering' stimulus or situation).
G3. There is personal distress, or adverse impact on the social environment, or both, clearly attributable to the behaviour referred to under G2.
G4. There must be evidence that the deviation is stable and of long duration, having its onset in late childhood or adolescence.
G5. The deviation cannot be explained as a manifestation or consequence of other adult mental disorders, although episodic or chronic conditions from sections F0 to F7 of this classification may co-exist, or be superimposed on it.
G6. Organic brain disease, injury, or dysfunction must be excluded as possible cause of the deviation (if such organic causation is demonstrable, use category F07).
Comments: The assessment of G1 to G6 above should be based on as many sources of information as possible. Although sometimes it is possible to obtain sufficient evidence from a single interview with the subject, as a general rule it is recommended to have more than one interview with the person and to collect history data from informants or past records
http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/index.htm?gf60.htm+f602
QuoteExcludes: conduct disorders ( F91.- ), emotionally unstable personality disorder ( F60.3 )
Additionally, here's the DSM-IV...
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/antisocialpd.htm
QuoteDiagnostic criteria for 301.7 Antisocial Personality Disorder
A. There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
(1) failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
(2) deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
(3) impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
(4) irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
(5) reckless disregard for safety of self or others
(6) consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
(7) lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
B. The individual is at least age 18 years.
C. There is evidence of Conduct Disorder with onset before age 15 years.
D. The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 04:52:44 PM
If we're going to go ahead and armchair diagnose Crazy Milton with a severe personality disorder, I think we ought to do our due diligence and consider all the required diagnostic criteria.
From the ICD DCR-10 Kerm linked...
QuoteF60 SPECIFIC PERSONALITY DISORDERS
G1. Evidence that the individual's characteristic and enduring patterns of inner experience and behaviour deviate markedly as a whole from the culturally expected and accepted range (or 'norm'). Such deviation must be manifest in more than one of the following areas:
(1) cognition (i.e. ways of perceiving and interpreting things, people and events; forming attitudes and images of self and others);
(2) affectivity (range, intensity and appropriateness of emotional arousaland response);
(3) control over impulses and need gratification;
(4) relating to others and manner of handling interpersonal situations.
G2. The deviation must manifest itself pervasively as behaviour that is inflexible, maladaptive, or otherwise dysfunctional across a broad range of personal and social situations (i.e. not being limited to one specific 'triggering' stimulus or situation).
G3. There is personal distress, or adverse impact on the social environment, or both, clearly attributable to the behaviour referred to under G2.
G4. There must be evidence that the deviation is stable and of long duration, having its onset in late childhood or adolescence.
G5. The deviation cannot be explained as a manifestation or consequence of other adult mental disorders, although episodic or chronic conditions from sections F0 to F7 of this classification may co-exist, or be superimposed on it.
G6. Organic brain disease, injury, or dysfunction must be excluded as possible cause of the deviation (if such organic causation is demonstrable, use category F07).
Comments: The assessment of G1 to G6 above should be based on as many sources of information as possible. Although sometimes it is possible to obtain sufficient evidence from a single interview with the subject, as a general rule it is recommended to have more than one interview with the person and to collect history data from informants or past records
http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/index.htm?gf60.htm+f602
QuoteExcludes: conduct disorders ( F91.- ), emotionally unstable personality disorder ( F60.3 )
Additionally, here's the DSM-IV...
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/antisocialpd.htm
QuoteDiagnostic criteria for 301.7 Antisocial Personality Disorder
A. There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
(1) failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
(2) deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
(3) impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
(4) irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
(5) reckless disregard for safety of self or others
(6) consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
(7) lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
B. The individual is at least age 18 years.
C. There is evidence of Conduct Disorder with onset before age 15 years.
D. The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode.
Wouldn't more pictures of tits suffice?
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/encopresis.htm
QuoteRepeated passage of feces into inappropriate places
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 05:26:51 PM
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/encopresis.htm
QuoteRepeated passage of feces into inappropriate places
2 Miltons, One Cup?
Quote from: fiveouts on September 01, 2009, 05:50:55 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 05:26:51 PM
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/encopresis.htm
QuoteRepeated passage of feces into inappropriate places
2 Miltons, One Cup?
1 Cat, 1 Liquid Garbage Can
Bump.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 04:52:44 PM
If we're going to go ahead and armchair diagnose Crazy Milton with a severe personality disorder, I think we ought to do our due diligence and consider all the required diagnostic criteria.
From the ICD DCR-10 Kerm linked...
QuoteF60 SPECIFIC PERSONALITY DISORDERS
G1. Evidence that the individual's characteristic and enduring patterns of inner experience and behaviour deviate markedly as a whole from the culturally expected and accepted range (or 'norm'). Such deviation must be manifest in more than one of the following areas:
(1) cognition (i.e. ways of perceiving and interpreting things, people and events; forming attitudes and images of self and others);
(2) affectivity (range, intensity and appropriateness of emotional arousaland response);
(3) control over impulses and need gratification;
(4) relating to others and manner of handling interpersonal situations.
G2. The deviation must manifest itself pervasively as behaviour that is inflexible, maladaptive, or otherwise dysfunctional across a broad range of personal and social situations (i.e. not being limited to one specific 'triggering' stimulus or situation).
G3. There is personal distress, or adverse impact on the social environment, or both, clearly attributable to the behaviour referred to under G2.
G4. There must be evidence that the deviation is stable and of long duration, having its onset in late childhood or adolescence.
G5. The deviation cannot be explained as a manifestation or consequence of other adult mental disorders, although episodic or chronic conditions from sections F0 to F7 of this classification may co-exist, or be superimposed on it.
G6. Organic brain disease, injury, or dysfunction must be excluded as possible cause of the deviation (if such organic causation is demonstrable, use category F07).
Comments: The assessment of G1 to G6 above should be based on as many sources of information as possible. Although sometimes it is possible to obtain sufficient evidence from a single interview with the subject, as a general rule it is recommended to have more than one interview with the person and to collect history data from informants or past records
http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/index.htm?gf60.htm+f602
QuoteExcludes: conduct disorders ( F91.- ), emotionally unstable personality disorder ( F60.3 )
Additionally, here's the DSM-IV...
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/antisocialpd.htm
QuoteDiagnostic criteria for 301.7 Antisocial Personality Disorder
A. There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
(1) failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
(2) deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
(3) impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
(4) irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
(5) reckless disregard for safety of self or others
(6) consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
(7) lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
B. The individual is at least age 18 years.
C. There is evidence of Conduct Disorder with onset before age 15 years.
D. The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode.
What the fuck is this quackery?
Look, it's pretty simple, the guy has too many Thetans. Or perhaps too few. We really won't know until he's been audited.
If I may take my analrapist stocking off of my head for a moment and pull on my Introspection Rundown socks... here's a Scientologist:
(http://i30.tinypic.com/24ca7og.jpg)
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 01, 2009, 10:19:22 PM
If I may take my analrapist stocking off of my head for a moment and pull on my Introspection Rundown socks... here's a Scientologist:
(http://i30.tinypic.com/24ca7og.jpg)
Can I give her my science?
And this quote after last night's game:
"Coming into this year, it was all '... he's not going to be healthy and blah, blah, blah,' " Bradley said. "But once again, everybody is wrong. I was supposed to hit ridiculous, and I didn't, or not until now. ... All the experts ain't right."
Quote from: Dave B on September 02, 2009, 09:58:32 AM
And this quote after last night's game:
"Coming into this year, it was all '... he's not going to be healthy and blah, blah, blah,' " Bradley said. "But once again, everybody is wrong. I was supposed to hit ridiculous, and I didn't, or not until now. ... All the experts ain't right."
Point?
Yes, Milton should probably not talk because he doesn't come off so well, but I could give a shit. This is actually dead-on. He may be an asshole but he told the truth there. So, yea, Fuck the experts.
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 02, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 02, 2009, 09:58:32 AM
And this quote after last night's game:
"Coming into this year, it was all '... he's not going to be healthy and blah, blah, blah,' " Bradley said. "But once again, everybody is wrong. I was supposed to hit ridiculous, and I didn't, or not until now. ... All the experts ain't right."
Point?
Yes, Milton should probably not talk because he doesn't come off so well, but I could give a shit. This is actually dead-on. He may be an asshole but he told the truth there. So, yea, Fuck the experts.
No, thank you. Too much halitosis, too little sun exposure, and most of all, too much peen.
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 02, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 02, 2009, 09:58:32 AM
And this quote after last night's game:
"Coming into this year, it was all '... he's not going to be healthy and blah, blah, blah,' " Bradley said. "But once again, everybody is wrong. I was supposed to hit ridiculous, and I didn't, or not until now. ... All the experts ain't right."
Point?
Yes, Milton should probably not talk because he doesn't come off so well, but I could give a shit. This is actually dead-on. He may be an asshole but he told the truth there. So, yea, Fuck the experts.
I'm with SABRYeti.
Milton speaks the truth right here.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 02, 2009, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 02, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 02, 2009, 09:58:32 AM
And this quote after last night's game:
"Coming into this year, it was all '... he's not going to be healthy and blah, blah, blah,' " Bradley said. "But once again, everybody is wrong. I was supposed to hit ridiculous, and I didn't, or not until now. ... All the experts ain't right."
Point?
Yes, Milton should probably not talk because he doesn't come off so well, but I could give a shit. This is actually dead-on. He may be an asshole but he told the truth there. So, yea, Fuck the experts.
I'm with SABRYeti.
Milton speaks the truth right here.
He could've been less "uppity" about it.
Quote from: The Uncouth Sloth on September 02, 2009, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 02, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 02, 2009, 09:58:32 AM
And this quote after last night's game:
"Coming into this year, it was all '... he's not going to be healthy and blah, blah, blah,' " Bradley said. "But once again, everybody is wrong. I was supposed to hit ridiculous, and I didn't, or not until now. ... All the experts ain't right."
Point?
Yes, Milton should probably not talk because he doesn't come off so well, but I could give a shit. This is actually dead-on. He may be an asshole but he told the truth there. So, yea, Fuck the experts.
No, thank you. Too much halitosis, too little sun exposure, and most of all, too much peen.
Somehow I think this is going to be a popular post. And I positive it. Sloth's been working out some.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 02, 2009, 11:25:49 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 02, 2009, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 02, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 02, 2009, 09:58:32 AM
And this quote after last night's game:
"Coming into this year, it was all '... he's not going to be healthy and blah, blah, blah,' " Bradley said. "But once again, everybody is wrong. I was supposed to hit ridiculous, and I didn't, or not until now. ... All the experts ain't right."
Point?
Yes, Milton should probably not talk because he doesn't come off so well, but I could give a shit. This is actually dead-on. He may be an asshole but he told the truth there. So, yea, Fuck the experts.
I'm with SABRYeti.
Milton speaks the truth right here.
He could've been less "uppity" about it.
Agreed. Next thing he'll be trying to date our delicate white daughters.
Quote from: Jon on September 02, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 02, 2009, 11:25:49 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 02, 2009, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 02, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 02, 2009, 09:58:32 AM
And this quote after last night's game:
"Coming into this year, it was all '... he's not going to be healthy and blah, blah, blah,' " Bradley said. "But once again, everybody is wrong. I was supposed to hit ridiculous, and I didn't, or not until now. ... All the experts ain't right."
Point?
Yes, Milton should probably not talk because he doesn't come off so well, but I could give a shit. This is actually dead-on. He may be an asshole but he told the truth there. So, yea, Fuck the experts.
I'm with SABRYeti.
Milton speaks the truth right here.
He could've been less "uppity" about it.
Agreed. Next thing he'll be trying to date our delicate white daughters.
Well, I know you, CD, and DNVF don't have daughters, so my next best guess would be Dave... So Dave, you got the hookup?
Quote from: Jon on September 02, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Next thing he'll be trying to date our delicate white daughters.
Who does he think he is? Moises Alou?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 02, 2009, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 02, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Next thing he'll be trying to date our delicate white daughters.
Who does he think he is? Moises Alou?
He said delicate, not defecate.
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2009, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 02, 2009, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 02, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Next thing he'll be trying to date our delicate white daughters.
Who does he think he is? Moises Alou?
He said delicate, not defecate.
What was it like being lab partners with TDubbs in anatomy class?
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 03, 2009, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2009, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 02, 2009, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 02, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Next thing he'll be trying to date our delicate white daughters.
Who does he think he is? Moises Alou?
He said delicate, not defecate.
What was it like being lab partners with TDubbs in anatomy class?
I wasn't referring to Alou's pissing on girls.
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2009, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 03, 2009, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2009, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 02, 2009, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 02, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Next thing he'll be trying to date our delicate white daughters.
Who does he think he is? Moises Alou?
He said delicate, not defecate.
What was it like being lab partners with TDubbs in anatomy class?
I wasn't referring to Alou's pissing on girls.
You weren't?
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2009, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 03, 2009, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2009, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 02, 2009, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 02, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Next thing he'll be trying to date our delicate white daughters.
Who does he think he is? Moises Alou?
He said delicate, not defecate.
What was it like being lab partners with TDubbs in anatomy class?
I wasn't referring to Alou's pissing on girls.
Were you talking about his dingleberries?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels4-2009sep04,0,261978.story?page=1
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels4-2009sep04,0,261978.story?page=1
Can't put a price on advice like this.
"The best piece of Abreu advice?
"Swing at more pitches in the strike zone, and you have a better chance of getting hits," Hunter said. "I've been doing that.""
Quote from: BH on September 04, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels4-2009sep04,0,261978.story?page=1
Can't put a price on advice like this.
"The best piece of Abreu advice?
"Swing at more pitches in the strike zone, and you have a better chance of getting hits," Hunter said. "I've been doing that.""
Von Joshua just smacked himself in the head and yelled, "why the fuck didn't I think of THAT!!!!"
Quote from: BH on September 04, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels4-2009sep04,0,261978.story?page=1
Can't put a price on advice like this.
"The best piece of Abreu advice?
"Swing at more pitches in the strike zone, and you have a better chance of getting hits," Hunter said. "I've been doing that.""
Nice choice, Jim, you people-touching douche.
Quote from: BH on September 04, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels4-2009sep04,0,261978.story?page=1
Can't put a price on advice like this.
"The best piece of Abreu advice?
"Swing at more pitches in the strike zone, and you have a better chance of getting hits," Hunter said. "I've been doing that.""
If Milton had just said that to Miles, Soto, Soriano, Fontenot, Blanco, Hill, Freel, Scales, Gathwright and Hoffpauier, the Cubs would be right in this one!
BB continues to be a big fan. From Sully's blog:
Now check out what Brenly said to WSCR-AM 670 about Bradley during an interview on the Cubs-Sox game on Thursday morning.:
"The bottom line is, just get the job done. He can point fingers and assign blame wherever he wants and laugh in the face of critics that he can swing the bat from the left side and he can stay healthy, but do it all year long, don't just do it for a month of the season and proclaim yourself the guy we were looking for. I think Milton Bradley is a much better offensive player then we've seen this year, I just think he's allowed too many distractions to get between his ears, I think he incorrectly blames everybody else for making him the lightning rod. Well if you don't want to be the lightning rod, then don't stand on the roof in a thunderstorm with a 1 iron in your hand .... Don't call it upon yourself, and I think with some of his comments, he's done that."
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 04, 2009, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: BH on September 04, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels4-2009sep04,0,261978.story?page=1
Can't put a price on advice like this.
"The best piece of Abreu advice?
"Swing at more pitches in the strike zone, and you have a better chance of getting hits," Hunter said. "I've been doing that.""
If Milton had just said that to Miles, Soto, Soriano, Fontenot, Blanco, Hill, Freel, Scales, Gathwright and Hoffpauier, the Cubs would be right in this one!
How dare you.
Quote from: BH on September 04, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels4-2009sep04,0,261978.story?page=1
Can't put a price on advice like this.
"The best piece of Abreu advice?
"Swing at more pitches in the strike zone, and you have a better chance of getting hits," Hunter said. "I've been doing that.""
Quote from: Dave B on August 18, 2009, 09:32:35 AM
Instead of swinging at a close pitch with a 3-1 count and the bases loaded to drive in runs, he'd rather spin in and take a walk. I saw it too many times this year. More concerned about drawing a walk. It did wonders for his batting average and RBI, didn't it?
Split G PA H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Bradley Bases Loaded 8 9 3 1 0 0 6 0 2 .429 .444 .571 1.016 .500 149 169
Abreu Bases Loaded 10 10 3 0 0 0 6 0 1 .300 .300 .300 .600 .333 47 62
Bradley 3-1 Count 25 27 6 2 0 0 1 12 0 .429 .704 .571 1.275 .429 215 93
Abreu 3-1 Count 44 54 8 0 0 0 5 26 0 .286 .630 .286 .915 .286 128 37
Bradley After 3-1 53 62 7 2 0 0 1 25 13 .194 .532 .250 .782 .304 95 40
Abreu After 3-1 63 94 13 1 1 0 7 40 6 .241 .564 .296 .860 .271 113 55
I've spewed about this in the SBox before, so I'm not going to go into full rant mode, but I think my biggest issue with Milton is that he somehow always manages to make himself the story. This isn't about his performance at all, but even here...this thread is 49 pages long for a guy who has been, by all accounts, basically right about equal value for his contract this year at this point.
I didn't look back too far, but to put in perspective, the Aramis thread is 12 pages. The Lilly thread is 11 pages and the OMFG I LOVE YOU KERRY WOOD thread is 18 pages.
Combined those 3 guys have gotten less of our attention and time that Milton has in the 5 months he's played baseball for the Cubs.
Fuck Milton and his stupid Kurt Evans-like ability to make it all about him.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 04, 2009, 12:41:33 PM
I've spewed about this in the SBox before, so I'm not going to go into full rant mode, but I think my biggest issue with Milton is that he somehow always manages to make himself the story. This isn't about his performance at all, but even here...this thread is 49 pages long for a guy who has been, by all accounts, basically right about equal value for his contract this year at this point.
I didn't look back too far, but to put in perspective, the Aramis thread is 12 pages. The Lilly thread is 11 pages and the OMFG I LOVE YOU KERRY WOOD thread is 18 pages.
Combined those 3 guys have gotten less of our attention and time that Milton has in the 5 months he's played baseball for the Cubs.
Fuck Milton and his stupid Kurt Evans-like ability to make it all about him.
He makes the story about him... Ok.
....
....
....
I'm still failing to see the problem. Oh, Desipio thread lengths? EMPIRICAL DATA RIGHT THERE!~@!@!!#!
Quote from: PenFoe on September 04, 2009, 12:41:33 PM
I've spewed about this in the SBox before, so I'm not going to go into full rant mode, but I think my biggest issue with Milton is that he somehow always manages to make himself the story. This isn't about his performance at all, but even here...this thread is 49 pages long for a guy who has been, by all accounts, basically right about equal value for his contract this year at this point.
I didn't look back too far, but to put in perspective, the Aramis thread is 12 pages. The Lilly thread is 11 pages and the OMFG I LOVE YOU KERRY WOOD thread is 18 pages.
Combined those 3 guys have gotten less of our attention and time that Milton has in the 5 months he's played baseball for the Cubs.
Fuck Milton and his stupid Kurt Evans-like ability to make it all about him.
The Aramis thread is short because no one disagrees that he's the shit.
The Lilly thread is short because we try not to tempt fate.
As for Kerry Wood, a quick and unscientific search finds over 60 separate threads around here with his name in the title.
me add comment to thread.
longer thread, more thread Milton Bradley's fault.
oog logic solid.
Quote from: oog on September 04, 2009, 01:59:25 PM
me add comment to thread.
longer thread, more thread Milton Bradley's fault.
oog logic solid.
oog right
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 12:26:52 PM
BB continues to be a big fan. From Sully's blog:
Now check out what Brenly said to WSCR-AM 670 about Bradley during an interview on the Cubs-Sox game on Thursday morning.:
"The bottom line is, just get the job done. He can point fingers and assign blame wherever he wants and laugh in the face of critics that he can swing the bat from the left side and he can stay healthy, but do it all year long, don't just do it for a month of the season and proclaim yourself the guy we were looking for. I think Milton Bradley is a much better offensive player then we've seen this year, I just think he's allowed too many distractions to get between his ears, I think he incorrectly blames everybody else for making him the lightning rod. Well if you don't want to be the lightning rod, then don't stand on the roof in a thunderstorm with a 1 iron in your hand .... Don't call it upon yourself, and I think with some of his comments, he's done that."
Silly color guys, thinking Cubs fans want to hear the truth. That got Stone real far.
Quote from: Bonk on September 04, 2009, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 12:26:52 PM
BB continues to be a big fan. From Sully's blog:
Now check out what Brenly said to WSCR-AM 670 about Bradley during an interview on the Cubs-Sox game on Thursday morning.:
"The bottom line is, just get the job done. He can point fingers and assign blame wherever he wants and laugh in the face of critics that he can swing the bat from the left side and he can stay healthy, but do it all year long, don't just do it for a month of the season and proclaim yourself the guy we were looking for. I think Milton Bradley is a much better offensive player then we've seen this year, I just think he's allowed too many distractions to get between his ears, I think he incorrectly blames everybody else for making him the lightning rod. Well if you don't want to be the lightning rod, then don't stand on the roof in a thunderstorm with a 1 iron in your hand .... Don't call it upon yourself, and I think with some of his comments, he's done that."
Silly color guys, thinking Cubs fans want to hear the truth. That got Stone real far.
Racist
Stone pulled a big fat I Told You Idiot Cub Fans so in stating he was right all along when he said early this year that Derrek Lee would have a great season. I heard this on the Score. No evidence of him telling anyone that Lee was going to have a great year, but what do I know?
Quote from: Slak on September 08, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Stone pulled a big fat I Told You Idiot Cub Fans so in stating he was right all along when he said early this year that Derrek Lee would have a great season. I heard this on the Score. No evidence of him telling anyone that Lee was going to have a great year, but what do I know?
He did say Lee would have a great season, but he didn't specify
Derrek Lee.
Quote from: Slak on September 08, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Stone pulled a big fat I Told You Idiot Cub Fans so in stating he was right all along when he said early this year that Derrek Lee would have a great season. I heard this on the Score. No evidence of him telling anyone that Lee was going to have a great year, but what do I know?
I assume that was on the Mully and Hanley segment he had this morning? I came in on part of it. However, I heard the best part later on. Driving on lunch, I had the Danny Mac show on and they replayed part of it. Stone said something along the lines of this (he even had his voice raised):
QuotePeople tell me I've been too hard on the Cubs this year. I don't think I have. They let go of Casey McGehee for $20k and he went to the Brewers and has been great. He has a higher batting average than Milton Bradley along with more home runs and RBIs. I haven't been hard on them. I've just been speaking the truth
That might not be word-for-word, but you get the idea. Looking at McGehee's minors stats (and his short term stats with the Cubs), he wasn't all that special. Pretty pedestrian batting stats. He has more HR's this year (in basically a half year of ABs) than he's ever in the minors. He's been really good for the Brewers. That is true. However, when I think of Casey McGehee, someone else comes to mind: Mike Fontenot.
It seems like these platoon players that do better in limited action (or have a good first year in the majors) get too much love in the world. See: Micah, Fontenotgoodathitting, McGehee. McGehee will possibly get a nod at a starting job next year, and probably turn into 2009 Fontenot
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 08, 2009, 03:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slak on September 08, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Stone pulled a big fat I Told You Idiot Cub Fans so in stating he was right all along when he said early this year that Derrek Lee would have a great season. I heard this on the Score. No evidence of him telling anyone that Lee was going to have a great year, but what do I know?
I assume that was on the Mully and Hanley segment he had this morning? I came in on part of it. However, I heard the best part later on. Driving on lunch, I had the Danny Mac show on and they replayed part of it. Stone said something along the lines of this (he even had his voice raised):
QuotePeople tell me I've been too hard on the Cubs this year. I don't think I have. They let go of Casey McGehee for $20k and he went to the Brewers and has been great. He has a higher batting average than Milton Bradley along with more home runs and RBIs. I haven't been hard on them. I've just been speaking the truth
That might not be word-for-word, but you get the idea. Looking at McGehee's minors stats (and his short term stats with the Cubs), he wasn't all that special. Pretty pedestrian batting stats. He has more HR's this year (in basically a half year of ABs) than he's ever in the minors. He's been really good for the Brewers. That is true. However, when I think of Casey McGehee, someone else comes to mind: Mike Fontenot.
It seems like these platoon players that do better in limited action (or have a good first year in the majors) get too much love in the world. See: Micah, Fontenotgoodathitting, McGehee. McGehee will possibly get a nod at a starting job next year, and probably turn into 2009 Fontenot
Oh yea. McGehee has almost a 2:1 K:BB ratio, kinda like Fontenot 2008. I can't say for sure what league average is, but I don't think that's all that good.
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 08, 2009, 03:18:38 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 08, 2009, 03:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slak on September 08, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Stone pulled a big fat I Told You Idiot Cub Fans so in stating he was right all along when he said early this year that Derrek Lee would have a great season. I heard this on the Score. No evidence of him telling anyone that Lee was going to have a great year, but what do I know?
I assume that was on the Mully and Hanley segment he had this morning? I came in on part of it. However, I heard the best part later on. Driving on lunch, I had the Danny Mac show on and they replayed part of it. Stone said something along the lines of this (he even had his voice raised):
QuotePeople tell me I've been too hard on the Cubs this year. I don't think I have. They let go of Casey McGehee for $20k and he went to the Brewers and has been great. He has a higher batting average than Milton Bradley along with more home runs and RBIs. I haven't been hard on them. I've just been speaking the truth
That might not be word-for-word, but you get the idea. Looking at McGehee's minors stats (and his short term stats with the Cubs), he wasn't all that special. Pretty pedestrian batting stats. He has more HR's this year (in basically a half year of ABs) than he's ever in the minors. He's been really good for the Brewers. That is true. However, when I think of Casey McGehee, someone else comes to mind: Mike Fontenot.
It seems like these platoon players that do better in limited action (or have a good first year in the majors) get too much love in the world. See: Micah, Fontenotgoodathitting, McGehee. McGehee will possibly get a nod at a starting job next year, and probably turn into 2009 Fontenot
Oh yea. McGehee has almost a 2:1 K:BB ratio. I can't say for sure what league average is, but I don't think that's all that good.
McGehee never even put up a .800 OPS in the minors. I expect 2010 McGehee to actually be worse than 2009 Fontenot. I also expect Steve Stone to continue to eat heaping plates of throbbing ratpenis in his radio appearances.
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 08, 2009, 03:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slak on September 08, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Stone pulled a big fat I Told You Idiot Cub Fans so in stating he was right all along when he said early this year that Derrek Lee would have a great season. I heard this on the Score. No evidence of him telling anyone that Lee was going to have a great year, but what do I know?
I assume that was on the Mully and Hanley segment he had this morning? I came in on part of it. However, I heard the best part later on. Driving on lunch, I had the Danny Mac show on and they replayed part of it. Stone said something along the lines of this (he even had his voice raised):
QuotePeople tell me I've been too hard on the Cubs this year. I don't think I have. They let go of Casey McGehee for $20k and he went to the Brewers and has been great. He has a higher batting average than Milton Bradley along with more home runs and RBIs. I haven't been hard on them. I've just been speaking the truth
That might not be word-for-word, but you get the idea. Looking at McGehee's minors stats (and his short term stats with the Cubs), he wasn't all that special. Pretty pedestrian batting stats. He has more HR's this year (in basically a half year of ABs) than he's ever in the minors. He's been really good for the Brewers. That is true. However, when I think of Casey McGehee, someone else comes to mind: Mike Fontenot.
It seems like these platoon players that do better in limited action (or have a good first year in the majors) get too much love in the world. See: Micah, Fontenotgoodathitting, McGehee. McGehee will possibly get a nod at a starting job next year, and probably turn into 2009 Fontenot
If only there were one Micah McFontemurton that could hit anybody and play at least one position other than first. Then we'd have something.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 08, 2009, 03:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slak on September 08, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Stone pulled a big fat I Told You Idiot Cub Fans so in stating he was right all along when he said early this year that Derrek Lee would have a great season. I heard this on the Score. No evidence of him telling anyone that Lee was going to have a great year, but what do I know?
I assume that was on the Mully and Hanley segment he had this morning? I came in on part of it. However, I heard the best part later on. Driving on lunch, I had the Danny Mac show on and they replayed part of it. Stone said something along the lines of this (he even had his voice raised):
QuotePeople tell me I've been too hard on the Cubs this year. I don't think I have. They let go of Casey McGehee for $20k and he went to the Brewers and has been great. He has a higher batting average than Milton Bradley along with more home runs and RBIs. I haven't been hard on them. I've just been speaking the truth
That might not be word-for-word, but you get the idea. Looking at McGehee's minors stats (and his short term stats with the Cubs), he wasn't all that special. Pretty pedestrian batting stats. He has more HR's this year (in basically a half year of ABs) than he's ever in the minors. He's been really good for the Brewers. That is true. However, when I think of Casey McGehee, someone else comes to mind: Mike Fontenot.
It seems like these platoon players that do better in limited action (or have a good first year in the majors) get too much love in the world. See: Micah, Fontenotgoodathitting, McGehee. McGehee will possibly get a nod at a starting job next year, and probably turn into 2009 Fontenot
If only there were one Micah McFontemurton that could hit anybody and play at least one position other than first. Then we'd have something.
JAY KVOCKS
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
To be fair, that was posted at 10.15, so Yeti was probably at lunch already.
Quote from: BH on September 11, 2009, 11:42:05 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
To be fair, that was posted at 10.15, so Yeti was probably at lunch already.
Actually, I was feeding my face...
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Did you notice that the thesis, diction, and oeuvre were basically the same?
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Did you notice that the thesis, diction, and oeuvre were basically the same?
And yet, still different.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Did you notice that the thesis, diction, and oeuvre were basically the same?
And yet, still different.
Technically....
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Did you notice that the thesis, diction, and oeuvre were basically the same?
And yet, still different.
Technically....
Technically, a sink and a toilet are both receptacles that provide means for wastewater to enter the sewage system. Yet one is a socially acceptable means for cat foaces disposal and the other is merely a sink.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Did you notice that the thesis, diction, and oeuvre were basically the same?
And yet, still different.
Technically....
Technically, a sink and a toilet are both receptacles that provide means for wastewater to enter the sewage system. Yet one is a socially acceptable means for cat foaces disposal and the other is merely a sink.
I love you.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Did you notice that the thesis, diction, and oeuvre were basically the same?
And yet, still different.
Technically....
Technically, a sink and a toilet are both receptacles that provide means for wastewater to enter the sewage system. Yet one is a socially acceptable means for cat foaces disposal and the other is merely a sink.
I love you.
ChuckD, report to the white courtesy phone for your
kudos.
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2009, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Did you notice that the thesis, diction, and oeuvre were basically the same?
And yet, still different.
Technically....
Technically, a sink and a toilet are both receptacles that provide means for wastewater to enter the sewage system. Yet one is a socially acceptable means for cat foaces disposal and the other is merely a sink.
I love you.
ChuckD, report to the white courtesy phone for your kudos.
How non-post-racial.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 11, 2009, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 11, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 11, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-08/abreus-influence-evident-angels-offensive-success
Quote"Bobby has brought something different to this ballclub," center fielder Torii Hunter says. "I won't say it's all patience. I'll say it's more about hitting pitches that are in the strike zone. When you hit a pitch in the strike zone, you have a better chance of getting a hit than when it's out of the strike zone."
It's about damn time someone tells these fuckers to swing at shit in the strike zone. Where the fuck was Scioscia? Reliving the Dodger days?
Hey, did you hear about Dempster? I hear he's going to the rotation. Lieber is off to the 'pen. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6729.msg190327#msg190327)
Did you notice that the articles were published on different dates, by different publications, and even written by different authors?
Did you notice that the thesis, diction, and oeuvre were basically the same?
And yet, still different.
Technically....
Technically, a sink and a toilet are both receptacles that provide means for wastewater to enter the sewage system. Yet one is a socially acceptable means for cat foaces disposal and the other is merely a sink.
I love you.
ChuckD, report to the white courtesy phone for your kudos.
How non-post-racial.
Coincidentally: I was told recently by a friend of mine that I am living proof that if you talk to a South Carolinian long enough, he will use the term "Race Traitor."
Besides, I was using a secret toilet euphonism.
Cubs looking to obtain worst contract in MLB. (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/bob_elliott/2009/10/31/11588066-sun.html)
Quote
The Toronto Sun reports that the Chicago Cubs are eyeing Vernon Wells in a Milton Bradley trade.
"It's early on, but we think this one has some legs," said one Cubs official. "But they aren't the only team we are talking with." The Cubs' idea is to split the difference on Wells' $107 million over six years and Bradley's $21 million the next two years, with each team absorbing $43 million. It would take a lot of work to make a deal happen, but it may be the only way Toronto can wiggle out of the Wells contract.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
Cubs looking to obtain worst contract in MLB. (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/bob_elliott/2009/10/31/11588066-sun.html)
Quote
The Toronto Sun reports that the Chicago Cubs are eyeing Vernon Wells in a Milton Bradley trade.
"It's early on, but we think this one has some legs," said one Cubs official. "But they aren't the only team we are talking with." The Cubs' idea is to split the difference on Wells' $107 million over six years and Bradley's $21 million the next two years, with each team absorbing $43 million. It would take a lot of work to make a deal happen, but it may be the only way Toronto can wiggle out of the Wells contract.
It's been asked before, but I'll ask it again: why do we root for this team?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 31, 2009, 12:19:43 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
Cubs looking to obtain worst contract in MLB. (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/bob_elliott/2009/10/31/11588066-sun.html)
Quote
The Toronto Sun reports that the Chicago Cubs are eyeing Vernon Wells in a Milton Bradley trade.
"It's early on, but we think this one has some legs," said one Cubs official. "But they aren't the only team we are talking with." The Cubs' idea is to split the difference on Wells' $107 million over six years and Bradley's $21 million the next two years, with each team absorbing $43 million. It would take a lot of work to make a deal happen, but it may be the only way Toronto can wiggle out of the Wells contract.
It's been asked before, but I'll ask it again: why do we root for this team?
Habit.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
Cubs looking to obtain worst contract in MLB. (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/bob_elliott/2009/10/31/11588066-sun.html)
Quote
The Toronto Sun reports that the Chicago Cubs are eyeing Vernon Wells in a Milton Bradley trade.
"It's early on, but we think this one has some legs," said one Cubs official. "But they aren't the only team we are talking with." The Cubs' idea is to split the difference on Wells' $107 million over six years and Bradley's $21 million the next two years, with each team absorbing $43 million. It would take a lot of work to make a deal happen, but it may be the only way Toronto can wiggle out of the Wells contract.
Jesus fuck, if they are willing to take on $20 million in new costs,
why not just dump bradley for who the fuck cares and spend the
$20 mil on an actual good football player?
Quote from: Pre on October 31, 2009, 01:35:29 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
Cubs looking to obtain worst contract in MLB. (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/bob_elliott/2009/10/31/11588066-sun.html)
Quote
The Toronto Sun reports that the Chicago Cubs are eyeing Vernon Wells in a Milton Bradley trade.
"It's early on, but we think this one has some legs," said one Cubs official. "But they aren't the only team we are talking with." The Cubs' idea is to split the difference on Wells' $107 million over six years and Bradley's $21 million the next two years, with each team absorbing $43 million. It would take a lot of work to make a deal happen, but it may be the only way Toronto can wiggle out of the Wells contract.
Jesus fuck, if they are willing to take on $20 million in new costs,
why not just dump bradley for who the fuck cares and spend the
$20 mil on an actual good football player?
Or baseball player, but, yeah, this is pretty fucking confusing.
Quote from: ChuckD on October 31, 2009, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 31, 2009, 01:35:29 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
Cubs looking to obtain worst contract in MLB. (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/bob_elliott/2009/10/31/11588066-sun.html)
Quote
The Toronto Sun reports that the Chicago Cubs are eyeing Vernon Wells in a Milton Bradley trade.
"It's early on, but we think this one has some legs," said one Cubs official. "But they aren't the only team we are talking with." The Cubs' idea is to split the difference on Wells' $107 million over six years and Bradley's $21 million the next two years, with each team absorbing $43 million. It would take a lot of work to make a deal happen, but it may be the only way Toronto can wiggle out of the Wells contract.
Jesus fuck, if they are willing to take on $20 million in new costs,
why not just dump bradley for who the fuck cares and spend the
$20 mil on an actual good football player?
Or baseball player, but, yeah, this is pretty fucking confusing.
They need a good safety. I'm just saying.
As always, when Phil Rogers posts something, wait about a minute for the Jockey to post the truth.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/10/cubs-not-interested-in-wells-for-bradley-swap-with-jays.html
Phew...we can all rest easy until the Bradley for Zito rumors start flying.
Trading Bradley is going to turn out to be a bad thing? Color me surprised.
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 31, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
Trading Bradley is going to turn out to be a bad thing? Color me surprised.
Yeti is becoming the anti-Chuck.
And—maybe just like the opposite of "love" isn't "hate"—apparently the opposite of "wrong" isn't "right."
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 02, 2009, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 31, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
Trading Bradley is going to turn out to be a bad thing? Color me surprised.
Yeti is becoming the anti-Chuck.
And—maybe just like the opposite of "love" isn't "hate"—apparently the opposite of "wrong" isn't "right."
I like to be perceived as the product of an abusive marriage.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 02, 2009, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 31, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
Trading Bradley is going to turn out to be a bad thing? Color me surprised.
Yeti is becoming the anti-Chuck.
And—maybe just like the opposite of "love" isn't "hate"—apparently the opposite of "wrong" isn't "right."
What is the opposite of "indifference"?
2008 Phillies: World Champs
2009 Phillies (with Ibanez): Not World Champs
Nice choice, Amaro
Quote from: BH on November 05, 2009, 08:45:36 AM
What is the opposite of "indifference"?
Love or hate. Your choice.
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 05, 2009, 08:53:22 AM
2008 Phillies: World Champs
2009 Phillies (with Ibanez): Not World Champs
Nice choice, Amaro
+eleventy
The World Series is over. Is Bradley still a Cub?
Goddammit Stew
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Luis Castillo, huh? What, Steve Garvey isn't available?
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Luis Castillo, huh? What, Steve Garvey isn't available?
He's on a fishing boat with Michael Floorwax.
Quote from: Slack-E on November 09, 2009, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Luis Castillo, huh? What, Steve Garvey isn't available?
He's on a fishing boat with Michael Floorwax.
And I thought I was the only one who watched Cheap Seats. One more person and we can start a Boob Tube thread.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Luis Castillo, huh? What, Steve Garvey isn't available?
If we're going after second basemen, then I'd rather have Chase Utley. Just sayin'...
Am I right, people? Come on! He's
good.
Quote from: JD on November 09, 2009, 09:37:56 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Luis Castillo, huh? What, Steve Garvey isn't available?
If we're going after second basemen, then I'd rather have Chase Utley. Just sayin'...
Am I right, people? Come on! He's good.
meh.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on November 09, 2009, 11:33:26 PM
Quote from: JD on November 09, 2009, 09:37:56 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Luis Castillo, huh? What, Steve Garvey isn't available?
If we're going after second basemen, then I'd rather have Chase Utley. Just sayin'...
Am I right, people? Come on! He's good.
meh.
Whatevah, dude. I'd even be willing to give up Tyler Colvin, Kyler Burke, and Wellington Castillo for Utley.
As long as the Phils threw in Steve Bedrosian.
The Cubs don't need a second baseman. They've got Starlin Castro ready to play short and they can move the gritty Ryan Theriot to second!
It's perfect, because every Cubs position player prospect turns out to be a stud, and Theriot is just the kind of heady player this team needs to hang on to.
(I hate this team.)
Quote from: Andy on November 10, 2009, 08:39:05 AM
The Cubs don't need a second baseman. They've got Starlin Castro ready to play short and they can move the gritty Ryan Theriot to second!
It's perfect, because every Cubs position player prospect turns out to be a stud, and Theriot is just the kind of heady cheap player this cash flow challenged team needs to hang on to.
(I hate this team.)
Debt service'd.
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Sweet. The next obvious step is to pick up Juan Pierre and win the 2003 NLCS.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 10, 2009, 09:39:30 AM
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Sweet. The next obvious step is to pick up Juan Pierre and win the 2003 NLCS.
In that case, it's a good thing Holly is still in town too.
If it means Josh Beckett and Miguel Cabrera are coming, I say pull the trigger.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 09:45:00 AM
If it means Josh Beckett and Miguel Cabrera are coming, I say pull the trigger.
They're only coming if you're fluffing them.
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 09:45:00 AM
If it means Josh Beckett and Miguel Cabrera are coming, I say pull the trigger.
They're only coming if you're fluffing them.
Oh, he's fluffing them alright. He'll be fluffing them so good they'll think they're made of feathers. Sweaty, rock-hard, full-on feathers.
Makes sense to rush to a decision.
"Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune reports that the Cubs are trying hard to trade Milton Bradley within the next 36 hours.
Rogers finds it hard to believe that anybody will take him, but according to several reports, the Rangers have emerged as a potential landing spot for the troubled outfielder. Rogers also notes the Rays, who have been linked in discussions for Bradley since he was made available.
Source: Phil Rogers on Twitter "
Quote from: BH on November 10, 2009, 03:14:01 PM
Makes sense to rush to a decision.
"Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune reports that the Cubs are trying hard to trade Milton Bradley within the next 36 hours.
Rogers finds it hard to believe that anybody will take him, but according to several reports, the Rangers have emerged as a potential landing spot for the troubled outfielder. Rogers also notes the Rays, who have been linked in discussions for Bradley since he was made available.
Source: Phil Rogers on Twitter "
That doesn't even make sense. Phil Rogers knows how to tweet and I don't?
Quote from: BH on November 10, 2009, 03:14:01 PM
Makes sense to rush to a decision.
"Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune reports that the Cubs are trying hard to trade Milton Bradley within the next 36 hours.
Rogers finds it hard to believe that anybody will take him, but according to several reports, the Rangers have emerged as a potential landing spot for the troubled outfielder. Rogers also notes the Rays, who have been linked in discussions for Bradley since he was made available.
Source: Phil Rogers on Twitter "
Think he's making it up? I do
My sources were telling me the same -- Milton to Toronto, Castillo to Chicago, Overbay to New York. They also tell me the deal is bullshit, and has little chance of happening.
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on November 09, 2009, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
God damn it, i was kidding.
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It makes some sense, but feels a bit far-fetched to be taken too seriously.
Source: FOXSports.com
Luis Castillo, huh? What, Steve Garvey isn't available?
He's on a fishing boat with Michael Floorwax.
And I thought I was the only one who watched Cheap Seats. One more person and we can start a Boob Tube thread.
Count me in. Do You Care, Vinny Romeo?
Wait. Simmer has "sources" now?
My source is the fountain of knowledge (no, not Phil Rogers), the internet. I just wish Gil would 'close the deal' already.
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Translation: "Milton's trade value is at an all-time low and I'm going to start the PR Express now on the "2009 was an aberration" track before I get killed for trading him for some shithead while at the same time eating 50% of his salary."
Quote from: PenFoe on November 11, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Translation: "Milton's trade value is at an all-time low and I'm going to start the PR Express now on the "2009 was an aberration" track before I get killed for trading him for some shithead while at the same time eating 50% of his salary."
Alternate Translation: "I'm keeping him to make ChuckDickens and IrishYeti happy, but most importantly, I'm keeping him to piss of PenFoe."
Quote from: PenFoe on November 11, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Translation: "Milton's trade value is at an all-time low and I'm going to start the PR Express now on the "2009 was an aberration" track before I get killed for trading him for some shithead while at the same time eating 50% of his salary."
Translation: I'm not cutting off the nose to spite the face.
Quote from: BBM on November 12, 2009, 12:16:02 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 11, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Translation: "Milton's trade value is at an all-time low and I'm going to start the PR Express now on the "2009 was an aberration" track before I get killed for trading him for some shithead while at the same time eating 50% of his salary."
Translation: I'm not cutting off the nose to spite the face.
Unless I can do it to good public opinion.
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 11, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Translation: "Milton's trade value is at an all-time low and I'm going to start the PR Express now on the "2009 was an aberration" track before I get killed for trading him for some shithead while at the same time eating 50% of his salary."
Alternate Translation: "I'm keeping him to make ChuckDickens and IrishYeti happy, but most importantly, I'm keeping him to piss of PenFoe."
It would kind of make me happy, too.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on November 12, 2009, 08:13:58 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 11, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Translation: "Milton's trade value is at an all-time low and I'm going to start the PR Express now on the "2009 was an aberration" track before I get killed for trading him for some shithead while at the same time eating 50% of his salary."
Alternate Translation: "I'm keeping him to make ChuckDickens and IrishYeti happy, but most importantly, I'm keeping him to piss of PenFoe."
It would kind of make me happy, too.
I know Milton "has to" go. But, Christ, I'd rather just keep him than trade him for Luis Castillo.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 12, 2009, 08:38:36 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on November 12, 2009, 08:13:58 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 11, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Translation: "Milton's trade value is at an all-time low and I'm going to start the PR Express now on the "2009 was an aberration" track before I get killed for trading him for some shithead while at the same time eating 50% of his salary."
Alternate Translation: "I'm keeping him to make ChuckDickens and IrishYeti happy, but most importantly, I'm keeping him to piss of PenFoe."
It would kind of make me happy, too.
I know Milton "has to" go. But, Christ, I'd rather just keep him than trade him for Luis Castillo.
I see people are coming around
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 12, 2009, 09:30:47 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 12, 2009, 08:38:36 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on November 12, 2009, 08:13:58 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 11, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
My sources say other things (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/5576684316)
Translation: "Milton's trade value is at an all-time low and I'm going to start the PR Express now on the "2009 was an aberration" track before I get killed for trading him for some shithead while at the same time eating 50% of his salary."
Alternate Translation: "I'm keeping him to make ChuckDickens and IrishYeti happy, but most importantly, I'm keeping him to piss of PenFoe."
It would kind of make me happy, too.
I know Milton "has to" go. But, Christ, I'd rather just keep him than trade him for Luis Castillo.
I see people are coming around
No, I still hate him and desperately want him gone. I just think Castillo is even more worthless than Pat Burrell.
"According to Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune, the Cubs, Mets and Rangers have discussed a deal that would land Milton Bradley in Texas.
The Mets would send Luis Castillo to the Cubs and cash would be paid to the Rangers. We've heard similar rumors before and the amount of moving parts make it difficult to take too seriously. That said, it does make some sense.
Source: Phil Rogers on Twitter "
Christ. Why would we want Luis Castillo? I hate that I can't tell if Hendry is just dumping Milton for anyone, or if he truly thinks Luis Castillo is good.
Quote from: BH on November 20, 2009, 10:22:44 AM
I can't tell if Hendry is just dumping Milton for anyone, or if he truly thinks Luis Castillo is good.
Why not both?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 20, 2009, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: BH on November 20, 2009, 10:22:44 AM
I can't tell if Hendry is just dumping Milton for anyone, or if he truly thinks Luis Castillo is good.
Why not both?
Why not neither?
Quote from: BH on November 20, 2009, 10:29:15 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 20, 2009, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: BH on November 20, 2009, 10:22:44 AM
I can't tell if Hendry is just dumping Milton for anyone, or if he truly thinks Luis Castillo is good.
Why not both?
Why not neither?
Why would you take anything seriously when it's preceeded by the words "according to Phil Rogers"?
Pardon me while I overindulge into this.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4714098)
QuoteFox, who was an All-American catcher at Michigan but played third, first and the outfield for the Cubs last season, enjoyed his time in Chicago, even with the most controversial Cub and supposed team pariah, Milton Bradley.
"He was always really good to me," Fox said of Bradley. "He was a great guy to me. He's got a wonderful family, and he kind of took me under his wing. He was a really good teammate. A lot of the fans didn't like him, and I can understand that. Maybe he put on a different persona or something. But he's always really good to me."
Fuck you Dempster. Fuck everyone. Bam BITCHES.
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
Pardon me while I overindulge into this.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4714098)
QuoteFox, who was an All-American catcher at Michigan but played third, first and the outfield for the Cubs last season, enjoyed his time in Chicago, even with the most controversial Cub and supposed team pariah, Milton Bradley.
"He was always really good to me," Fox said of Bradley. "He was a great guy to me. He's got a wonderful family, and he kind of took me under his wing. He was a really good teammate. A lot of the fans didn't like him, and I can understand that. Maybe he put on a different persona or something. But he's always really good to me."
Fuck you Dempster. Fuck everyone. Bam BITCHES.
This should be treated as being no more nor less important than what Urlacher had to say last weekend.
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
Pardon me while I overindulge into this.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4714098)
QuoteFox, who was an All-American catcher at Michigan but played third, first and the outfield for the Cubs last season, enjoyed his time in Chicago, even with the most controversial Cub and supposed team pariah, Milton Bradley.
"He was always really good to me," Fox said of Bradley. "He was a great guy to me. He's got a wonderful family, and he kind of took me under his wing. He was a really good teammate. A lot of the fans didn't like him, and I can understand that. Maybe he put on a different persona or something. But he's always really good to me."
Fuck you Dempster. Fuck everyone. Bam BITCHES.
This should be treated as being no more nor less important than what Urlacher had to say last weekend.
Probably true, but I find myself fistpumping myself in the taint over this.
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
Pardon me while I overindulge into this.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4714098)
QuoteFox, who was an All-American catcher at Michigan but played third, first and the outfield for the Cubs last season, enjoyed his time in Chicago, even with the most controversial Cub and supposed team pariah, Milton Bradley.
"He was always really good to me," Fox said of Bradley. "He was a great guy to me. He's got a wonderful family, and he kind of took me under his wing. He was a really good teammate. A lot of the fans didn't like him, and I can understand that. Maybe he put on a different persona or something. But he's always really good to me."
Fuck you Dempster. Fuck everyone. Bam BITCHES.
This should be treated as being no more nor less important than what Urlacher had to say last weekend.
Probably true, but I find myself fistpumping myself in the taint over this.
You're trying too hard with this statfag thing.
Quote from: Eli on December 04, 2009, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
Pardon me while I overindulge into this.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4714098)
QuoteFox, who was an All-American catcher at Michigan but played third, first and the outfield for the Cubs last season, enjoyed his time in Chicago, even with the most controversial Cub and supposed team pariah, Milton Bradley.
"He was always really good to me," Fox said of Bradley. "He was a great guy to me. He's got a wonderful family, and he kind of took me under his wing. He was a really good teammate. A lot of the fans didn't like him, and I can understand that. Maybe he put on a different persona or something. But he's always really good to me."
Fuck you Dempster. Fuck everyone. Bam BITCHES.
This should be treated as being no more nor less important than what Urlacher had to say last weekend.
Probably true, but I find myself fistpumping myself in the taint over this.
You're trying too hard with this statfag thing.
The Milton love isn't just stat-based.
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 04, 2009, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
Pardon me while I overindulge into this.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4714098)
QuoteFox, who was an All-American catcher at Michigan but played third, first and the outfield for the Cubs last season, enjoyed his time in Chicago, even with the most controversial Cub and supposed team pariah, Milton Bradley.
"He was always really good to me," Fox said of Bradley. "He was a great guy to me. He's got a wonderful family, and he kind of took me under his wing. He was a really good teammate. A lot of the fans didn't like him, and I can understand that. Maybe he put on a different persona or something. But he's always really good to me."
Fuck you Dempster. Fuck everyone. Bam BITCHES.
This should be treated as being no more nor less important than what Urlacher had to say last weekend.
Probably true, but I find myself fistpumping myself in the taint over this.
You're trying too hard with this statfag thing.
The Milton love isn't just stat-based.
That's good, because that wouldn't make much sense.
Quote from: Eli on December 04, 2009, 05:56:20 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 04, 2009, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 04, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
Pardon me while I overindulge into this.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4714098)
QuoteFox, who was an All-American catcher at Michigan but played third, first and the outfield for the Cubs last season, enjoyed his time in Chicago, even with the most controversial Cub and supposed team pariah, Milton Bradley.
"He was always really good to me," Fox said of Bradley. "He was a great guy to me. He's got a wonderful family, and he kind of took me under his wing. He was a really good teammate. A lot of the fans didn't like him, and I can understand that. Maybe he put on a different persona or something. But he's always really good to me."
Fuck you Dempster. Fuck everyone. Bam BITCHES.
This should be treated as being no more nor less important than what Urlacher had to say last weekend.
Probably true, but I find myself fistpumping myself in the taint over this.
You're trying too hard with this statfag thing.
The Milton love isn't just stat-based.
That's good, because that wouldn't make much sense.
I still think he's a good player and any trade they make will make the team worse, but I know he's not like a JAY KVOX caliber of player.
I know that maybe I should read the article or something and just don't want to. But what does Dempster have to do with this?
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2009, 09:50:22 AM
I know that maybe I should read the article or something and just don't want to. But what does Dempster have to do with this?
I suspect that's in reference to this one...
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/09/dempster-on-bradley-look-in-the-mirror.html
There's a lesson here: stick to the formula.
"FYD"
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on December 05, 2009, 12:16:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 05, 2009, 09:50:22 AM
I know that maybe I should read the article or something and just don't want to. But what does Dempster have to do with this?
I suspect that's in reference to this one...
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/09/dempster-on-bradley-look-in-the-mirror.html
There's a lesson here: stick to the formula.
"FYD"
I hadn't read that until just now. I kind of tuned out the Cubs from Mid-August on and for good reason. I'm very pleased to know that they all had such a great time without me. That they had the time of their lives. Fucking gutless cocksuckers. Why the hell do I root for these turds?
Has anyone heard anything from Bradley himself? It is amazing that someone as meshugah as Bradley is could be hearing all of this universal condemnation (except from Jake Fox who thinks Miltie is a terrific teammate) and keep his mouth shut. Maybe they don't let him send messages from the rubber room.
CrazyRumorGuy.
"The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they're not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they're re-engaged in trade talks with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley."
My guess. Felipe Lopez and Carlos Silva.
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
CrazyRumorGuy.
"The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they're not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they're re-engaged in trade talks with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley."
My guess. Felipe Lopez and Carlos Silva.
They're going to sign and trade Felipe López? Get a brane, fatass. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7392)
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
CrazyRumorGuy.
"The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they're not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they're re-engaged in trade talks with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley."
My guess. Felipe Lopez and Carlos Silva.
Official protest page: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=259996069912&ref=nf
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
CrazyRumorGuy.
"The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they're not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they're re-engaged in trade talks with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley."
My guess. Felipe Lopez and Carlos Silva.
They're going to sign and trade Felipe López? Get a brane, fatass. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7392)
Lopez was a joke. Silva probably isn't, unfortunately.
"According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the Mariners have reemerged as a possible trade partner for the Cubs and Milton Bradley.
The M's are hoping to deal Carlos Silva and the $24 million remaining on his salary to the Cubs in exchange for Bradley and his $21 million tab. It'd be an impressive feat, though. Silva, 30, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. He's shown no signs of turning his career around and probably wouldn't fare much better in the tight confines of Wrigley Field.
Source: SI.com
Related: Carlos Silva, Mariners"
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
CrazyRumorGuy.
"The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they're not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they're re-engaged in trade talks with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley."
My guess. Felipe Lopez and Carlos Silva.
They're going to sign and trade Felipe López? Get a brane, fatass. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7392)
Lopez was a joke. Silva probably isn't, unfortunately.
"According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the Mariners have reemerged as a possible trade partner for the Cubs and Milton Bradley.
The M's are hoping to deal Carlos Silva and the $24 million remaining on his salary to the Cubs in exchange for Bradley and his $21 million tab. It'd be an impressive feat, though. Silva, 30, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. He's shown no signs of turning his career around and probably wouldn't fare much better in the tight confines of Wrigley Field.
Source: SI.com
Related: Carlos Silva, Mariners"
I thought you meant Jose Lopez.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 18, 2009, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
CrazyRumorGuy.
"The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they're not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they're re-engaged in trade talks with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley."
My guess. Felipe Lopez and Carlos Silva.
They're going to sign and trade Felipe López? Get a brane, fatass. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7392)
Lopez was a joke. Silva probably isn't, unfortunately.
"According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the Mariners have reemerged as a possible trade partner for the Cubs and Milton Bradley.
The M's are hoping to deal Carlos Silva and the $24 million remaining on his salary to the Cubs in exchange for Bradley and his $21 million tab. It'd be an impressive feat, though. Silva, 30, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. He's shown no signs of turning his career around and probably wouldn't fare much better in the tight confines of Wrigley Field.
Source: SI.com
Related: Carlos Silva, Mariners"
I thought you meant Jose Lopez.
I'm still drunk from last night. I meant Mario Lopez.
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 18, 2009, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
CrazyRumorGuy.
"The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they're not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they're re-engaged in trade talks with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley."
My guess. Felipe Lopez and Carlos Silva.
They're going to sign and trade Felipe López? Get a brane, fatass. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7392)
Lopez was a joke. Silva probably isn't, unfortunately.
"According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the Mariners have reemerged as a possible trade partner for the Cubs and Milton Bradley.
The M's are hoping to deal Carlos Silva and the $24 million remaining on his salary to the Cubs in exchange for Bradley and his $21 million tab. It'd be an impressive feat, though. Silva, 30, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. He's shown no signs of turning his career around and probably wouldn't fare much better in the tight confines of Wrigley Field.
Source: SI.com
Related: Carlos Silva, Mariners"
I thought you meant Jose Lopez.
I'm still drunk from last night. I meant Mario Lopez.
No deal unless they throw in Dustin Diamond.
Via RotoWorld:
QuoteAccording to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva.
If this is true, and unless the Mariners give us a lot of money, Jim Hendry has officially found the worst possible trade he could have made for Milton. Forcing Pat Burrell to split time in RF with Kosuke is a better option than this. They're better off just releasing Bradley.
They're going to trade Silva to the White Sox for Juan Pierre!
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:35:42 AM
Via RotoWorld:
QuoteAccording to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva.
If this is true, and unless the Mariners give us a lot of money, Jim Hendry has officially found the worst possible trade he could have made for Milton. Forcing Pat Burrell to split time in RF with Kosuke is a better option than this. They're better off just releasing Bradley.
That's the worst move of Hendry's tenure. Just awful. I can't even believe it.
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:35:42 AM
Via RotoWorld:
QuoteAccording to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva.
If this is true, and unless the Mariners give us a lot of money, Jim Hendry has officially found the worst possible trade he could have made for Milton. Forcing Pat Burrell to split time in RF with Kosuke is a better option than this. They're better off just releasing Bradley.
That's the worst move of Hendry's tenure. Just awful. I can't even believe it.
There's even a report that the Cubs will be sending money to Seattle to makeup the $4 million difference. If there's any truth to that, then Jim Hendry needs to jump off of a very tall structure. Long live KMB-2010! (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=259996069912&ref=nf)
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:35:42 AM
Via RotoWorld:
QuoteAccording to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva.
If this is true, and unless the Mariners give us a lot of money, Jim Hendry has officially found the worst possible trade he could have made for Milton. Forcing Pat Burrell to split time in RF with Kosuke is a better option than this. They're better off just releasing Bradley.
That's the worst move of Hendry's tenure. Just awful. I can't even believe it.
Out of all Hendry's stupid moves, this one wasn't his worst. He didn't have many options after the whole organization made sure Milton had no trade value. Trading for Juan Pierre was far worse than this. All his stupid contracts were worse. That being said, this was a horrible trade.
What's the over/under of people in the bleachers getting Tommy John disease on days Silva pitches?
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:35:42 AM
Via RotoWorld:
QuoteAccording to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva.
If this is true, and unless the Mariners give us a lot of money, Jim Hendry has officially found the worst possible trade he could have made for Milton. Forcing Pat Burrell to split time in RF with Kosuke is a better option than this. They're better off just releasing Bradley.
That's the worst move of Hendry's tenure. Just awful. I can't even believe it.
There's even a report that the Cubs will be sending money to Seattle to makeup the $4 million difference. If there's any truth to that, then Jim Hendry needs to jump off of a very tall structure. Long live KMB-2010! (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=259996069912&ref=nf)
Isn't Silva owed $24 million and Bradley $21 million? I'm no mathgenius, but how do we owe money?
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:45:56 AM
There's even a report that the Cubs will be sending money to Seattle to makeup the $4 million difference. If there's any truth to that, then Jim Hendry needs to jump off of a very tall structure. Long live KMB-2010! (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=259996069912&ref=nf)
The $4 million would be headed to Chicago. Silva (11.5+11.5+2mil buyout) has a larger deal than Milton (9+12).
The Mariners' new GM is having a hell of a first year.
I think Hendry was complicit in destroying what trade value Milton might have had.
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:49:03 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:35:42 AM
Via RotoWorld:
QuoteAccording to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva.
If this is true, and unless the Mariners give us a lot of money, Jim Hendry has officially found the worst possible trade he could have made for Milton. Forcing Pat Burrell to split time in RF with Kosuke is a better option than this. They're better off just releasing Bradley.
That's the worst move of Hendry's tenure. Just awful. I can't even believe it.
Out of all Hendry's stupid moves, this one wasn't his worst. He didn't have many options after the whole organization made sure Milton had no trade value. Trading for Juan Pierre was far worse than this. All his stupid contracts were worse. That being said, this was a horrible trade.
WRONG. The Pierre trade was very close, but Hendry could have kept Milton. Fuck those gutless fucking assholes.
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: Weebs on December 18, 2009, 11:35:42 AM
Via RotoWorld:
QuoteAccording to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva.
If this is true, and unless the Mariners give us a lot of money, Jim Hendry has officially found the worst possible trade he could have made for Milton. Forcing Pat Burrell to split time in RF with Kosuke is a better option than this. They're better off just releasing Bradley.
That's the worst move of Hendry's tenure. Just awful. I can't even believe it.
There's even a report that the Cubs will be sending money to Seattle to makeup the $4 million difference. If there's any truth to that, then Jim Hendry needs to jump off of a very tall structure. Long live KMB-2010! (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=259996069912&ref=nf)
If that's the case, then Jim Hendry needs remedial math class. From Steve Stone's husband's Seattle Times article: (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2010540975_shocker_mariners_trading_carlo.html)
Quote
The money remaining on both contracts is similar. Bradley has $21 million left on his contract -- $9 million in 2010, $12 million in 2011. Silva has $25 million remaining -- $11.5 million in '10 and '11, with a $2 million buyout on a 2012 option. There is no immediate word if the Cubs will send money in the deal to make up any of the $4 million difference.
So the Mariners save $4MM and convince Hendry to send them $4MM more?
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:49:03 AM
Out of all Hendry's stupid moves, this one wasn't his worst. He didn't have many options after the whole organization made sure Milton had no trade value.
He could have just kept him. Anything is better than trading him for a similarly expensive player who's one of the worst pitchers in baseball. There's no possible defense.
Are you going to tell me that it's hard to trade a sociopath who you sent home for the last two weeks of the season? Oh, and who you owe $21 MILLION dollars?
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 11:53:52 AM
He could have just kept him.
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
I'm betting Lou and the clubhouse would as well.
There's always a chance a shitty pitcher can get hot.
Nothing is ever going to make Bradley sane.
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
There's always a chance a shitty pitcher can get hot.
Nothing is ever going to make Bradley sane.
Not this guy, Fork. Not this guy.
Fuck this team.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on December 18, 2009, 12:03:34 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
There's always a chance a shitty pitcher can get hot.
Nothing is ever going to make Bradley sane.
Not this guy, Fork. Not this guy.
Fuck this team.
We're talking Lloyd Christmas odds, but still...
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
Well, sure, if you don't care about whether the Cubs win games, then this trade is fine.
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
There's always a chance a shitty pitcher can get hot.
A shitty pitcher, yes. Carlos Silva, no. He's beyond shitty. He's not even a major league player at this point.
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on December 18, 2009, 12:03:34 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
There's always a chance a shitty pitcher can get hot.
Nothing is ever going to make Bradley sane.
Not this guy, Fork. Not this guy.
Fuck this team.
We're talking Lloyd Christmas odds, but still...
Well then it's a good thing we're paying $12 million to a guy that has as good a chance at getting hot as one of many pitchers we have in Iowa. And even better, because he's making that much money and is a "veteran," you know these dumbfucks are going to actually put him in the rotation.
Is there any chance this isn't official yet? Maybe it's not hai.
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
Well, sure, if you don't care about whether the Cubs win games, then this trade is fine.
So in your opinion, how many wins did this trade cost us next year? 2-3?
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
Well, sure, if you don't care about whether the Cubs win games, then this trade is fine.
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
There's always a chance a shitty pitcher can get hot.
A shitty pitcher, yes. Carlos Silva, no. He's beyond shitty. He's not even a major league player at this point.
Can the team cut Silva, or are there 24 million reasons why they can't?
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
Well, sure, if you don't care about whether the Cubs win games, then this trade is fine.
So in your opinion, how many wins did this trade cost us next year? 2-3?
Only is Silva never pitches an inning.
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 11:53:52 AM
He could have just kept him.
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
I'm betting Lou and the clubhouse would as well.
This is a really tough question. I can't decide myself whether Bradley's insanity or Silva's pitching would better suck the life out of enjoying the 2010 (and 2011... ugh) Cubs.
Debate gets settled next summer, kids, should be fun!
Way to go, racists.
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
Well, sure, if you don't care about whether the Cubs win games, then this trade is fine.
So in your opinion, how many wins did this trade cost us next year? 2-3?
Phildo would say this is a wash.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 12:07:18 PM
Is there any chance this isn't official yet? Maybe it's not hai.
This is the best post of the last half hour. Keep hope alive!
So we're not going to see the following:
Quote
@BaseballStone: Bradley is up tp .338 after 4-5 incl. 2 2B & HR at LAA. Cubs gave up on him too soon.
@BaseballStone: Silva fails to get out of 2nd at PNC while Bradley's 20-game hit streak leads SEA into 1st. Nice choice, Jim.
Quote from: Phil Rogers
While the Cubs bullpen is feeling the strain of having to work extra whenever Carlos Silva starts, and while the Cubs struggle to find a solution in the outfield, Milton Bradley is doing it all for the Mariners. Bradley, who began working with a psychologist in October last year, has become a joy in the Mariners' locker room.
"He's a guy Ichiro and I look to for support," icon Ken Griffey Jr. said. "He's really brought this club together."
And Bradley can flat-out hit. His hitting streak extended to 29 games after this week's series in Texas. Bradley leads the American League in hitting, OBA and OPS, and his 24 home runs have given Seattle a little added pop.
All of this is a nightmare to the Cubs, who have to wonder if they were the problem, as Bradley recently won a local contest as the most likable celebrity in the Pacific Northwest, and was recognized by the Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation as the most philanthropic figure in Seattle.
Bradley hasn't missed a game all year, and recently agreed to restructure his contract with the Mariners so he can remain in Seattle for the rest of his career.
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
Well, sure, if you don't care about whether the Cubs win games, then this trade is fine.
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
There's always a chance a shitty pitcher can get hot.
A shitty pitcher, yes. Carlos Silva, no. He's beyond shitty. He's not even a major league player at this point.
To defend this trade exposes a lack of a functioning brain. We're talking creationist level stupidity here.
Look at his fucking stats.
<----Literally angry with rage.
I was really hoping for a Karros/Grudz for Hundley trade. We got exactly that, but Bradley is Karros and Grudzielanek.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
I'd rather watch Silva pitch than spend this season talking about Milton Bradley again.
Well, sure, if you don't care about whether the Cubs win games, then this trade is fine.
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
There's always a chance a shitty pitcher can get hot.
A shitty pitcher, yes. Carlos Silva, no. He's beyond shitty. He's not even a major league player at this point.
To defend this trade exposes a lack of a functioning brain. We're talking creationist level stupidity here.
Look at his fucking stats.
And every time Carlos shits the tub, guess who we'll be talking about again?
Up until now I was jaded and didn't care about the offseason. Well, I've gone from indifferent to furious in a matter of moments.
Quote from: Brownie on December 18, 2009, 12:22:15 PM
So we're not going to see the following:
Quote
@BaseballStone: Bradley is up tp .338 after 4-5 incl. 2 2B & HR at LAA. Cubs gave up on him too soon.
@BaseballStone: Silva fails to get out of 2nd at PNC while Bradley's 20-game hit streak leads SEA into 1st. Nice choice, Jim.
Quote from: Phil Rogers
While the Cubs bullpen is feeling the strain of having to work extra whenever Carlos Silva starts, and while the Cubs struggle to find a solution in the outfield, Milton Bradley is doing it all for the Mariners. Bradley, who began working with a psychologist in October last year, has become a joy in the Mariners' locker room.
"He's a guy Ichiro and I look to for support," icon Ken Griffey Jr. said. "He's really brought this club together."
And Bradley can flat-out hit. His hitting streak extended to 29 games after this week's series in Texas. Bradley leads the American League in hitting, OBA and OPS, and his 24 home runs have given Seattle a little added pop.
All of this is a nightmare to the Cubs, who have to wonder if they were the problem, as Bradley recently won a local contest as the most likable celebrity in the Pacific Northwest, and was recognized by the Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation as the most philanthropic figure in Seattle.
Bradley hasn't missed a game all year, and recently agreed to restructure his contract with the Mariners so he can remain in Seattle for the rest of his career.
You're about to get very rich on royalties.
Can the SABRgays here give me some perspective on just how awful Carlos Dildo is? I think it'd be fun to see a list of players who are similarly terrible.
Quote from: Brownie on December 18, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
I was really hoping for a Karros/Grudz for Hundley trade. We got exactly that, but Bradley is Karros and Grudzielanek.
Wait, people actually thought after the Cubs said we had to trade Bradley and bitched about his every move that he had a lot of trade value?
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Can the SABRgays here give me some perspective on just how awful Carlos Dildo is? I think it'd be fun to see a list of players who are similarly terrible.
Or for real shits and giggles, just compare him to Jason Marquis over the last five seasons.
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Can the SABRgays here give me some perspective on just how awful Carlos Dildo is? I think it'd be fun to see a list of players who are similarly terrible.
I've been wanting to look at it but I'm so fucking angry, I can't even get the actual want-to.
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Can the SABRgays here give me some perspective on just how awful Carlos Dildo is? I think it'd be fun to see a list of players who are similarly terrible.
Baseball reference gives these winners:
Randy Lerch (948)
Johnny Marcum (947)
Jeremy Bonderman (945)
Armando Reynoso (941)
Josh Fogg (941)
Jake Westbrook (940)
Mark Hendrickson (940)
David Bush (939)
Rodrigo Lopez (938)
Benny Frey (936)
Quote from: Jon on December 18, 2009, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Can the SABRgays here give me some perspective on just how awful Carlos Dildo is? I think it'd be fun to see a list of players who are similarly terrible.
Baseball reference gives this winners:
Randy Lerch (948)
Johnny Marcum (947)
Jeremy Bonderman (945)
Armando Reynoso (941)
Josh Fogg (941)
Jake Westbrook (940)
Mark Hendrickson (940)
David Bush (939)
Rodrigo Lopez (938)
Benny Frey (936)
Here are their comparisons for Milton:
1. Jeffrey Hammonds (966)
2. Ivan Calderon (960)
3. Ben Grieve (959)
4. Marty Cordova (958)
5. Ellis Valentine (953)
6. Ron Northey (949)
7. Todd Hollandsworth (946)
8. Alexis Rios (944)
9. Eric Byrnes (943)
10. Chet Laabs (943)
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: Jon on December 18, 2009, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Can the SABRgays here give me some perspective on just how awful Carlos Dildo is? I think it'd be fun to see a list of players who are similarly terrible.
Baseball reference gives this winners:
Randy Lerch (948)
Johnny Marcum (947)
Jeremy Bonderman (945)
Armando Reynoso (941)
Josh Fogg (941)
Jake Westbrook (940)
Mark Hendrickson (940)
David Bush (939)
Rodrigo Lopez (938)
Benny Frey (936)
Here are their comparisons for Milton:
1. Jeffrey Hammonds (966)
2. Ivan Calderon (960)
3. Ben Grieve (959)
4. Marty Cordova (958)
5. Ellis Valentine (953)
6. Ron Northey (949)
7. Todd Hollandsworth (946)
8. Alexis Rios (944)
9. Eric Byrnes (943)
10. Chet Laabs (943)
You fatties have to stick together, huh?
Quote from: Jon on December 18, 2009, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: Jon on December 18, 2009, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Can the SABRgays here give me some perspective on just how awful Carlos Dildo is? I think it'd be fun to see a list of players who are similarly terrible.
Baseball reference gives this winners:
Randy Lerch (948)
Johnny Marcum (947)
Jeremy Bonderman (945)
Armando Reynoso (941)
Josh Fogg (941)
Jake Westbrook (940)
Mark Hendrickson (940)
David Bush (939)
Rodrigo Lopez (938)
Benny Frey (936)
Here are their comparisons for Milton:
1. Jeffrey Hammonds (966)
2. Ivan Calderon (960)
3. Ben Grieve (959)
4. Marty Cordova (958)
5. Ellis Valentine (953)
6. Ron Northey (949)
7. Todd Hollandsworth (946)
8. Alexis Rios (944)
9. Eric Byrnes (943)
10. Chet Laabs (943)
You fatties have to stick together, huh?
We need to right the wrong that is Ben Grieve!
Well, unfortunately when you have a lousy player with an attitude problem, whose owed alot of money, whom the team has driven down the trade value, and is forced to trade you get a Carlos Silva in return.
Quote from: Waco Kid on December 18, 2009, 12:42:03 PM
Well, unfortunately when you have a lousy player with an attitude problem, whose owed alot of money, whom the team has driven down the trade value, and is forced to trade you get a Carlos Silva in return.
O RLY?
Quote from: Waco Kid on December 18, 2009, 12:42:03 PM
Well, unfortunately when you have a lousy player with an attitude problem, whose owed alot of money, whom the team has driven down the trade value, and is forced to trade you get a Carlos Silva Milton Bradley in return.
Mariners'd.
Quote from: Yeti on December 18, 2009, 12:44:13 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on December 18, 2009, 12:42:03 PM
Well, unfortunately when you have a lousy player with an attitude problem, whose owed alot of money, whom the team has driven down the trade value, and is forced to trade you get a Carlos Silva in return.
O RLY?
Yep. Milty was never coming back, the only question was what sack of crap player were the Cubs getting in return.
On a totally different note, the Mariners are going to be really good.
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
On a totally different note, the Mariners are going to be really good.
their clubhouse has CANCER, IDITO!
According to the Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan, the Cubs will receive $9 million from the Mariners to cover part of Carlos Silva's remaining salary.
Silva is owed $24 million over the next two seasons and Mitlon Bradley is owed $21 million, so the Cubs are basically making out with $6 million in the deal. Of course, that doesn't make up for the fact that Chicago is getting by far the worse player. Silva posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA over 153 1/3 innings in 2008. Bradley batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago but is only one year removed from a career-best .321/.436/.563 batting line.
Source: Paul Sullivan on Twitter
Related: Milton Bradley, Cubs
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 12:55:32 PM
According to the Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan, the Cubs will receive $9 million from the Mariners to cover part of Carlos Silva's remaining salary.
Silva is owed $24 million over the next two seasons and Mitlon Bradley is owed $21 million, so the Cubs are basically making out with $6 million in the deal. Of course, that doesn't make up for the fact that Chicago is getting by far the worse player. Silva posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA over 153 1/3 innings in 2008. Bradley batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago but is only one year removed from a career-best .321/.436/.563 batting line.
Source: Paul Sullivan on Twitter
Related: Milton Bradley, Cubs
Yeah, but we just downgraded the clubhouse from CANCER to an infected hemorrhoid.
So, basically, the Cubs have replaced Milton Bradley and Rich Harden with Carlos Silva.
Very quick look at the numbers, that's an addition of negative five wins.
Quote from: powen01 on December 18, 2009, 12:56:53 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 12:55:32 PM
According to the Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan, the Cubs will receive $9 million from the Mariners to cover part of Carlos Silva's remaining salary.
Silva is owed $24 million over the next two seasons and Mitlon Bradley is owed $21 million, so the Cubs are basically making out with $6 million in the deal. Of course, that doesn't make up for the fact that Chicago is getting by far the worse player. Silva posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA over 153 1/3 innings in 2008. Bradley batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago but is only one year removed from a career-best .321/.436/.563 batting line.
Source: Paul Sullivan on Twitter
Related: Milton Bradley, Cubs
Yeah, but we just downgraded the clubhouse from CANCER to an infected hemorrhoid.
Plus won't $2 million of that go towards his buy-out in 2012? Meaning we really made out with about $4 million for Carlos Fucking Silva?
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 12:55:32 PM
According to the Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan, the Cubs will receive $9 million from the Mariners to cover part of Carlos Silva's remaining salary.
Silva is owed $24 million over the next two seasons and Mitlon Bradley is owed $21 million, so the Cubs are basically making out with $6 million in the deal. Of course, that doesn't make up for the fact that Chicago is getting by far the worse player. Silva posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA over 153 1/3 innings in 2008. Bradley batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago but is only one year removed from a career-best .321/.436/.563 batting line.
Source: Paul Sullivan on Twitter
Related: Milton Bradley, Cubs
Sully's got some nerve nicechoicejim'ing this deal now after trashing Bradley all season long. I think the team/fans/players/media in this godforsaken burgh deserve one another. We're all shit.
I didn't write this but it needs to be asked:
What does it say about Carlos Silva that the Mariners are willing to fork over $9 million dollars and take on a psychotic malcontent to be rid of him?
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 18, 2009, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 12:55:32 PM
According to the Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan, the Cubs will receive $9 million from the Mariners to cover part of Carlos Silva's remaining salary.
Silva is owed $24 million over the next two seasons and Mitlon Bradley is owed $21 million, so the Cubs are basically making out with $6 million in the deal. Of course, that doesn't make up for the fact that Chicago is getting by far the worse player. Silva posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA over 153 1/3 innings in 2008. Bradley batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago but is only one year removed from a career-best .321/.436/.563 batting line.
Source: Paul Sullivan on Twitter
Related: Milton Bradley, Cubs
Sully's got some nerve nicechoicejim'ing this deal now after trashing Bradley all season long. I think the team/fans/players/media in this godforsaken burgh deserve one another. We're all shit.
Since fatshit BH is allergic to links, I'll clarify this one - that's not Sully talking, it's the Rotoworld guys.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:07:08 PM
I didn't write this but it needs to be asked:
What does it say about Carlos Silva that the Mariners are willing to fork over $9 million dollars and take on a psychotic malcontent to be rid of him?
That he's fat as shit and sucks really bad at playing baseball.
Quote from: BichetteHappens on December 18, 2009, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:07:08 PM
I didn't write this but it needs to be asked:
What does it say about Carlos Silva that the Mariners are willing to fork over $9 million dollars and take on a psychotic malcontent to be rid of him?
That he's fat as shit and sucks really bad at playing baseball.
He makes me miss Aaron Miles.
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
Quote from: BichetteHappens on December 18, 2009, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:07:08 PM
I didn't write this but it needs to be asked:
What does it say about Carlos Silva that the Mariners are willing to fork over $9 million dollars and take on a psychotic malcontent to be rid of him?
That he's fat as shit and sucks really bad at playing baseball.
He makes me miss Aaron Miles.
He makes me miss Pol Pot.
The good: No way Hendry can keep his job after this season.
The bad: Carlos Silva, the fat papsmear.
The worst: InternetChuck will be along shortly to claim vindication about some aspect of this trade.
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
On a totally different note, the Mariners are going to be really good.
My new favorite team
The only way the whole Milton Bradley era -- from signing to trade -- could be made worse is for Hendry to extend Silva.
Quote from: Yeti on December 18, 2009, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
On a totally different note, the Mariners are going to be really good.
My new favorite team
The Cubs are the a team that everyone loves to make fun of and Sox fans love to hate - but nobody, NOBODY hates the Cubs more than Cubs fans like us. My Atheismo, this rageahol is unmatched.
Quote from: Shooter on December 18, 2009, 01:25:46 PM
The only way the whole Milton Bradley era -- from signing to trade -- could be made worse is for Hendry to extend Silva.
I'd put an assassination attempt on Silva happening before that.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on December 18, 2009, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Shooter on December 18, 2009, 01:25:46 PM
The only way the whole Milton Bradley era -- from signing to trade -- could be made worse is for Hendry to extend Silva.
I'd put an assassination attempt on Silva happening before that.
If you did that today, do we still have to pay him?
No mention yet of the fact that Silva was hurt for nearly the entire season last year? Since May 6th, he's made 2 fucking starts. At least he'll be well-rested.
He can break Herman Franks' record for most pinstripes on a home uniform.
Never mind. Maybe that's what this bit of complete nonsense means:
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:50:16 AM
What's the over/under of people in the bleachers getting Tommy John disease on days Silva pitches?
Today sucks enough already, so you might as well explain what in God's name that means. Are the people in the bleachers going to throw rotten vegetables at him? Is there a new, airborne strain of TJD? Do you just have to post something nonsensical in every thread?
Quote from: Kermit, B. on December 18, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
Never mind. Maybe that's what this bit of complete nonsense means:
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:50:16 AM
What's the over/under of people in the bleachers getting Tommy John disease on days Silva pitches?
Today sucks enough already, so you might as well explain what in God's name that means. Are the people in the bleachers going to throw rotten vegetables at him? Is there a new, airborne strain of TJD? Do you just have to post something nonsensical in every thread?
At Wrigley Field, it is a tradition to throw back the home run balls of opposing players.
This trade is just breath-taking in its stupidity.
Just release the fucking guy if this is the best you can do.
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 01:41:53 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on December 18, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
Never mind. Maybe that's what this bit of complete nonsense means:
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:50:16 AM
What's the over/under of people in the bleachers getting Tommy John disease on days Silva pitches?
Today sucks enough already, so you might as well explain what in God's name that means. Are the people in the bleachers going to throw rotten vegetables at him? Is there a new, airborne strain of TJD? Do you just have to post something nonsensical in every thread?
At Wrigley Field, it is a tradition to throw back the home run balls of opposing players.
It is? When did that start?
Quote from: Kermit, B. on December 18, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
No mention yet of the fact that Silva was hurt for nearly the entire season last year? Since May 6th, he's made 2 fucking starts. At least he'll be well-rested.
That's the
upside of the trade; with any luck, Silva will be too hurt to pitch.
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on December 18, 2009, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Shooter on December 18, 2009, 01:25:46 PM
The only way the whole Milton Bradley era -- from signing to trade -- could be made worse is for Hendry to extend Silva.
I'd put an assassination attempt on Silva happening before that.
If you did that today, do we still have to pay him?
Here you go BH. I think you were looking for this:
http://www.cubworld.com/category/wwa.carlos_silva/
The big problem with this trade, is that if one of these expensive guys is most likely going to get paid not to play (for different reasons)....why not keep the guy who MIGHT, just might have some trade value later in the season?
You now have a commodity that will never, ever have a speck of trade value. The Cubs are fucking stuck with this guy. And they have two years of paying him what will net out to be only $6M less than Bradley.
But he's not a cancer...so put a skirt and some lipstick on him and see if he can lift Mike Fontenot's "spirit"?
I don't know...that's the best I can make of this trade.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on December 18, 2009, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 01:41:53 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on December 18, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
Never mind. Maybe that's what this bit of complete nonsense means:
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:50:16 AM
What's the over/under of people in the bleachers getting Tommy John disease on days Silva pitches?
Today sucks enough already, so you might as well explain what in God's name that means. Are the people in the bleachers going to throw rotten vegetables at him? Is there a new, airborne strain of TJD? Do you just have to post something nonsensical in every thread?
At Wrigley Field, it is a tradition to throw back the home run balls of opposing players.
It is? When did that start?
My earliest personal recollection is from BP before this game (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1984/B09150CHN1984.htm),
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on December 18, 2009, 01:49:33 PM
The big problem with this trade, is that if one of these expensive guys is most likely going to get paid not to play (for different reasons)....why not keep the guy who MIGHT, just might have some trade value later in the season?
You now have a commodity that will never, ever have a speck of trade value. The Cubs are fucking stuck with this guy. And they have two years of paying him what will net out to be only $6M less than Bradley.
But he's not a cancer...so put a skirt and some lipstick on him and see if he can lift Mike Fontenot's "spirit"?
I don't know...that's the best I can make of this trade.
The best that I can make out of this is that I'm retarded for being a Cubs fan.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on December 18, 2009, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Shooter on December 18, 2009, 01:25:46 PM
The only way the whole Milton Bradley era -- from signing to trade -- could be made worse is for Hendry to extend Silva.
I'd put an assassination attempt on Silva happening before that.
If you did that today, do we still have to pay him?
Here you go BH. I think you were looking for this:
http://www.cubworld.com/category/wwa.carlos_silva/
I'll admit, this one is pretty sweet. #50 on the front and #52 on the back.
(http://ttp://snapcdn-zoovy-1.simplecdn.net/img/cubworld/W180-H125-Bffffff/Z/chicago_cubs_carlos_silva_road_jersey.jpg)
Quote from: MAD on December 18, 2009, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on December 18, 2009, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 01:41:53 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on December 18, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
Never mind. Maybe that's what this bit of complete nonsense means:
Quote from: Fork on December 18, 2009, 11:50:16 AM
What's the over/under of people in the bleachers getting Tommy John disease on days Silva pitches?
Today sucks enough already, so you might as well explain what in God's name that means. Are the people in the bleachers going to throw rotten vegetables at him? Is there a new, airborne strain of TJD? Do you just have to post something nonsensical in every thread?
At Wrigley Field, it is a tradition to throw back the home run balls of opposing players.
It is? When did that start?
My earliest personal recollection is from BP before this game (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1984/B09150CHN1984.htm),
It started with the Bleacher Bums in the late 60s/early 70s, then died out when guys like Bill Bonham, Ray Burris and Oscar Zamora turned the bleachers into an artillery range. Picked up in the mid-80s with the success of the '84 team combined with the play "Bleacher Bums", where they talk about throwing back opposing home run balls.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on December 18, 2009, 01:49:33 PMBut he's not a cancer...so put a skirt and some lipstick on him and see if he can lift Mike Fontenot's "spirit"?
You're talking about his penis, aren't you?
I don't understand all the anger today. Yeah this is a horrible trade, but did anybody really expect anything better? They weren't going to keep Bradley under any circumstances. The anger should have came when they destroyed any value he had. A trade this shitty has been inevitable for weeks.
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 01:57:19 PM
I don't understand all the anger today. Yeah this is a horrible trade, but did anybody really expect anything better? They weren't going to keep Bradley under any circumstances. The anger should have came when they destroyed any value he had. A trade this shitty has been inevitable for weeks.
You better watch out with talk like that. The long knives are out today. Que BK.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 01:57:19 PM
I don't understand all the anger today.
You new here?
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
I agree. They weren't going to get anything of any value for him. 5 million is better than nothing.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
I agree. They weren't going to get anything of any value for him. 5 million is better than nothing.
That's a hell of a positive spin. Anger subsiding.
Quote from: BH on December 18, 2009, 01:59:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 01:57:19 PM
I don't understand all the anger today.
You new here?
No. I'm just not angry anymore. I've moved on to depressed.
Quote from: Oleg on December 18, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
I agree. They weren't going to get anything of any value for him. 5 million is better than nothing.
That's a hell of a positive spin. Anger subsiding.
But that have to actually DFA him. You might want to save some anger for when he actually pitches, if he does.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
I agree. They weren't going to get anything of any value for him. 5 million is better than nothing.
For me it's been a slow build. I've tried ignoring the great sinkhole that has been the Cubs since Milton and Jim hugged it out at the podium last November. Since then everything he's done has been atrocious and that single move seemingly has culminated with the worst trade that I can remember seeing in my entire life. I mean, yeah we all knew it was going to be a bad trade. But Pat Burrell bad would have been 1,000 times preferable to this.
Jim Hendry did all of this. He is absolutely responsible. And now they can't fire him until at least next year and that's assuming the Cubs have a poor season again. To fire him after making this trade would be completely pointless. That's like taking the gun away from someone
after they shot up a school.
This offseason just sucks the entire bag of dicks. Individually.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
I agree. They weren't going to get anything of any value for him. 5 million is better than nothing.
For me it's been a slow build. I've tried ignoring the great sinkhole that has been the Cubs since Milton and Jim hugged it out at the podium last November. Since then everything he's done has been atrocious and that single move seemingly has culminated with the worst trade that I can remember seeing in my entire life. I mean, yeah we all knew it was going to be a bad trade. But Pat Burrell bad would have been 1,000 times preferable to this.
Jim Hendry did all of this. He is absolutely responsible. And now they can't fire him until at least next year and that's assuming the Cubs have a poor season again. To fire him after making this trade would be completely pointless. That's like taking the gun away from someone after they shot up a school.
This offseason just sucks the entire bag of dicks. Individually.
But at least that would mean they couldn't shoot up the school up the street next.
Quote from: Oleg on December 18, 2009, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
I agree. They weren't going to get anything of any value for him. 5 million is better than nothing.
For me it's been a slow build. I've tried ignoring the great sinkhole that has been the Cubs since Milton and Jim hugged it out at the podium last November. Since then everything he's done has been atrocious and that single move seemingly has culminated with the worst trade that I can remember seeing in my entire life. I mean, yeah we all knew it was going to be a bad trade. But Pat Burrell bad would have been 1,000 times preferable to this.
Jim Hendry did all of this. He is absolutely responsible. And now they can't fire him until at least next year and that's assuming the Cubs have a poor season again. To fire him after making this trade would be completely pointless. That's like taking the gun away from someone after they shot up a school.
This offseason just sucks the entire bag of dicks. Individually.
But at least that would mean they couldn't shoot up the school up the street next.
Leave Yeti's homeschool out of this.
To the "this is better than DFA" crowd:
Consider this, had the Cubs traded Bradley for a bucket of feces...and had to eat $16M of his remaining $22M as a condition, you are in the exact same place assuming (as you should) that Silva's worthless on the field.
To me, December 18th is a bit too early in the game to have to come to this conclusion.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on December 18, 2009, 02:52:26 PM
To the "this is better than DFA" crowd:
Consider this, had the Cubs traded Bradley for a bucket of feces...and had to eat $16M of his remaining $22M as a condition, you are in the exact same place assuming (as you should) that Silva's worthless on the field.
To me, December 18th is a bit too early in the game to have to come to this conclusion.
A lot of us are in the "Keep Milton" crowd. Since that's not going to happen, the next best thing would be to fire Jim Hendry out of a Jumbo Sized Cannon.
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
The problem is now they have to use the $6M to find an outfielder who is as good as Milton Bradley, and that's not going to happen. So, the $6M is all but spent, they're going to have a worse RF or CF than they did last year, and now Carlos Silva is on the team.
Fuck this franchise.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on December 18, 2009, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
If the Cubs saved $5-6 million and essentially DFA Silva (long relief or actually DFAd) they I'm still
crazy depressed about how they handled last year, but $5 million is better than just DFAing
Bradley if they had their hearts so set on him being gone.
The problem is now they have to use the $6M to find an outfielder who is as good as Milton Bradley, and that's not going to happen. So, the $6M is all but spent, they're going to have a worse RF or CF than they did last year, and now Carlos Silva is on the team.
Fuck this franchise.
Milton was a jerk, see? And the rest of the team would rather have a buddy they can high five with and whip towels at after games than have actual talent and win actual games.
I hope they have a super happy clubhouse and lose 100 games.
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on December 18, 2009, 02:52:26 PM
To the "this is better than DFA" crowd:
Consider this, had the Cubs traded Bradley for a bucket of feces...and had to eat $16M of his remaining $22M as a condition, you are in the exact same place assuming (as you should) that Silva's worthless on the field.
To me, December 18th is a bit too early in the game to have to come to this conclusion.
I don't get your logic? DFAing him is eating $21 million (minus league minimum
times 2 if someone picks him up) is not the same as trading him for nothing and
saving ~$5 million. Sure, Silva is a piece of shit, but he's a $5 million cheaper PoS
(for the Cubs, anyways)
I'd rather they just kept Bradley because whatever % chance he manages to rake
again next year is the only % that this situation ends up a positive. However, the
Cubs managed to not only kill his trade value by letting teams know they would
dump him no matter what, but they also helped turn the 'tard-swarm of the
Cubbies flock so far against him they absolutely had to get rid of him from a PR stance.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
Why you think that was something outside the realm of possibility? You root for the Cubs to win a World Series every year. Think that's ever going to happen? Really?
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
Why you think that was something outside the realm of possibility? You root for the Cubs to win a World Series every year. Think that's ever going to happen? Really?
I do think it was outside the realm of possibility. Keeping him was probably the smart thing do to. Not destroying his trade value in the first place was the smart thing to do. Why would I think the Cubs would do the smart thing? As long as they DFA Silva, then I'll take this. But my standards are really low.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
Why you think that was something outside the realm of possibility? You root for the Cubs to win a World Series every year. Think that's ever going to happen? Really?
I do think it was outside the realm of possibility. Keeping him was probably the smart thing do to. Not destroying his trade value in the first place was the smart thing to do. Why would I think the Cubs would do the smart thing? As long as they DFA Silva, then I'll take this. But my standards are really low.
I'm pissed off about the whole cycle. Hendry really just fucked this whole organization right up over the last year and this was the coup de grace.
I'm slowly getting over it. The Cubs stink. I don't know why I'm surprised that everything they do is fucking clown shoes.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
Why you think that was something outside the realm of possibility? You root for the Cubs to win a World Series every year. Think that's ever going to happen? Really?
I do think it was outside the realm of possibility. Keeping him was probably the smart thing do to. Not destroying his trade value in the first place was the smart thing to do. Why would I think the Cubs would do the smart thing? As long as they DFA Silva, then I'll take this. But my standards are really low.
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
From my 15 year old daughter;
"I don't care, it's Christmas. And the Cubs suck anyway."
As for me, I'm going to get drunk and watch the Hawks this weekend and pretend this trade never happened.
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
I don't expect them to DFA him, I expect them to David Patton him.
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
Why you think that was something outside the realm of possibility? You root for the Cubs to win a World Series every year. Think that's ever going to happen? Really?
I do think it was outside the realm of possibility. Keeping him was probably the smart thing do to. Not destroying his trade value in the first place was the smart thing to do. Why would I think the Cubs would do the smart thing? As long as they DFA Silva, then I'll take this. But my standards are really low.
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
Well that would have been a better move. Was that an option? I haven't been paying attention to be honest.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
Why you think that was something outside the realm of possibility? You root for the Cubs to win a World Series every year. Think that's ever going to happen? Really?
I do think it was outside the realm of possibility. Keeping him was probably the smart thing do to. Not destroying his trade value in the first place was the smart thing to do. Why would I think the Cubs would do the smart thing? As long as they DFA Silva, then I'll take this. But my standards are really low.
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
Well that would have been a better move. Was that an option? I haven't been paying attention to be honest.
Supposedly, but the Cubs didn't want to pay all of Milton's salary for 2011. Eh, screw it, I don't care anymore.
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 03:25:32 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
I don't expect them to DFA him, I expect them to David Patton him.
I fully expect him to start 25 games. Whenever the media gets a hold of Hendry, we're going to see quotes from him about how Silva is a guy who "has had success" in the past and is an "innings eater." Then he'll talk about how he thinks Silva is the kind of guy who will benefits from a move to the National League and Wrigley and they're really excited to have him.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
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Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
Why you think that was something outside the realm of possibility? You root for the Cubs to win a World Series every year. Think that's ever going to happen? Really?
I do think it was outside the realm of possibility. Keeping him was probably the smart thing do to. Not destroying his trade value in the first place was the smart thing to do. Why would I think the Cubs would do the smart thing? As long as they DFA Silva, then I'll take this. But my standards are really low.
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
Well that would have been a better move. Was that an option? I haven't been paying attention to be honest.
From most accounts, it was. Part of my anger is clearly my desire to have Milton Bradley still in Chicago. Another part of it is the fact that the Cubs, once again, just decided to become an even worse team than when they ended the season. I guess there's Marlon Byrd, but he doesn't excite me all that much. He had a nice offensive season last year. There's that. They missed out on Cameron. If they want to sign a starter, there's basically only Piniero out there. Slak had it right when he said that no one hates this team more than us. I hate this team because 2 years ago I thought they were going to be very good for a few years. As it sits now, this team is a sub-.500 team. Trading MB for Silva just further affirms that.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
So you guys all thought there was a chance they'd end up keeping Milton? Really?
I'm just shocked Hendry didn't deal him for a 5' 8' middle infielder who can't hit.
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 03:25:32 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
I don't expect them to DFA him, I expect them to David Patton him.
I fully expect him to start 25 games. Whenever the media gets a hold of Hendry, we're going to see quotes from him about how Silva is a guy who "has had success" in the past and is an "innings eater." Then he'll talk about how he thinks Silva is the kind of guy who will benefits from a move to the National League and Wrigley and they're really excited to have him.
Somehow I convinced myself he wasn't going to pitch, but you're probably right. Now I'm getting angry.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:53:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 03:25:32 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
I don't expect them to DFA him, I expect them to David Patton him.
I fully expect him to start 25 games. Whenever the media gets a hold of Hendry, we're going to see quotes from him about how Silva is a guy who "has had success" in the past and is an "innings eater." Then he'll talk about how he thinks Silva is the kind of guy who will benefits from a move to the National League and Wrigley and they're really excited to have him.
Somehow I convinced myself he wasn't going to pitch, but you're probably right. Now I'm getting angry.
Join the club. I swear I almost had a stroke after I heard this news.
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2009, 03:53:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 18, 2009, 03:25:32 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
Why do you think they would they DFA Silva and eat $15M when they weren't willing to trade Bradley for Burrell and pay the $10M difference?
I don't expect them to DFA him, I expect them to David Patton him.
I fully expect him to start 25 games. Whenever the media gets a hold of Hendry, we're going to see quotes from him about how Silva is a guy who "has had success" in the past and is an "innings eater." Then he'll talk about how he thinks Silva is the kind of guy who will benefits from a move to the National League and Wrigley and they're really excited to have him.
Somehow I convinced myself he wasn't going to pitch, but you're probably right. Now I'm getting angry.
Dude looks like he's eating a lot more than innings. He's going to beat up Fontenot and take his meal money when they're on the road.
The Cubs weren't keeping Bradley and they weren't going to pay all of Bradley's salary as part of a trade for perhaps Burrell. So the best we can expect in this scenario, where a desperate Hendry needs to unload Milty and not pay most of his salary, is to get a piece of crap player like Silva. I'm not angry about this because you could see this coming from a mile away. The whole Bradley experience with the Cubs has sucked ass and it's only fitting that it ends like this.
The worst part of this whole trade is that Kaplan's emphatic assertion that "Milton will NOT be back" was CORRECT.
Nah, the worst part is Carlos Silva. But mine's probably number two.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on December 18, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
The worst part of this whole trade is that Kaplan's emphatic assertion that "Milton will NOT be back" was CORRECT.
Nah, the worst part is Carlos Silva. But mine's probably number two.
Silva is definitely number two.
Quote from: Al Yellon
This is a fan-friendly move. The Cubs can now slide Sam Fuld into center, a rejuvenated Alfonso Soriano in left and Kosuke Fukudome (who has charmed us all and inspired those Japanese headbands and "Horry Cow" shirts) in right. The bleacherites will love it. As a guy who spent a fair amount of time in right field, eating bologna sandwiches, dropping tomatoes on my scorecards and wearing a "lucky" hat, having Fukudome and not Bradley in right brings a smile to my face. In left, maybe Alfonso Soriano will remind us of Andre Dawson (who actually played right, for those of you reading that are too young or too stupid to remember), coming back from sore knees in 1986 to have an MVP 1987. (Who cares if the Cubs finished last that year. Not even Ernie Banks could win an MVP for a last-place team. We saw HISTORY!) I do hope Soriano avoids Eric Show. But I digress....
...
We got rid of Milton Bradley, a mean man who caused the Cubs to lose a lot of games. He wasn't a chemistry guy, that's for sure. That's important. Tom Ricketts and Jim Hendry get it.
But even more than this, Hendry understands almost as well as Crane Kenney the total Wrigley experience. I think the Ricketts family understands it too. There's nothing better than watching batting practice, and I understand that the Cubs have extended the visitng teams' batting practice by 90 minutes every fifth day. Life is good to be a Cubs fan, just as it always has been.
I'd rather watch these 2010 Cubs (Carlos Silva, ace, after they deal that nasty Carlos Zambrano for another player) than watch a World Series champion.
Quote from: Brownie on December 18, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: Al Yellon
This is a fan-friendly move. The Cubs can now slide Sam Fuld into center, a rejuvenated Alfonso Soriano in left and Kosuke Fukudome (who has charmed us all and inspired those Japanese headbands and "Horry Cow" shirts) in right. The bleacherites will love it. As a guy who spent a fair amount of time in right field, eating bologna sandwiches, dropping tomatoes on my scorecards and wearing a "lucky" hat, having Fukudome and not Bradley in right brings a smile to my face. In left, maybe Alfonso Soriano will remind us of Andre Dawson (who actually played right, for those of you reading that are too young or too stupid to remember), coming back from sore knees in 1986 to have an MVP 1987. (Who cares if the Cubs finished last that year. Not even Ernie Banks could win an MVP for a last-place team. We saw HISTORY!) I do hope Soriano avoids Eric Show. But I digress....
...
We got rid of Milton Bradley, a mean man who caused the Cubs to lose a lot of games. He wasn't a chemistry guy, that's for sure. That's important. Tom Ricketts and Jim Hendry get it.
But even more than this, Hendry understands almost as well as Crane Kenney the total Wrigley experience. I think the Ricketts family understands it too. There's nothing better than watching batting practice, and I understand that the Cubs have extended the visitng teams' batting practice by 90 minutes every fifth day. Life is good to be a Cubs fan, just as it always has been.
I'd rather watch these 2010 Cubs (Carlos Silva, ace, after they deal that nasty Carlos Zambrano for another player) than watch a World Series champion.
I have no doubt that's an accurate paraphrase.
Quote from: Brownie on December 18, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: Al Yellon
This is a fan-friendly move. The Cubs can now slide Sam Fuld into center, a rejuvenated Alfonso Soriano in left and Kosuke Fukudome (who has charmed us all and inspired those Japanese headbands and "Horry Cow" shirts) in right. The bleacherites will love it. As a guy who spent a fair amount of time in right field, eating bologna sandwiches, dropping tomatoes on my scorecards and wearing a "lucky" hat, having Fukudome and not Bradley in right brings a smile to my face. In left, maybe Alfonso Soriano will remind us of Andre Dawson (who actually played right, for those of you reading that are too young or too stupid to remember), coming back from sore knees in 1986 to have an MVP 1987. (Who cares if the Cubs finished last that year. Not even Ernie Banks could win an MVP for a last-place team. We saw HISTORY!) I do hope Soriano avoids Eric Show. But I digress....
...
We got rid of Milton Bradley, a mean man who caused the Cubs to lose a lot of games. He wasn't a chemistry guy, that's for sure. That's important. Tom Ricketts and Jim Hendry get it.
But even more than this, Hendry understands almost as well as Crane Kenney the total Wrigley experience. I think the Ricketts family understands it too. There's nothing better than watching batting practice, and I understand that the Cubs have extended the visitng teams' batting practice by 90 minutes every fifth day. Life is good to be a Cubs fan, just as it always has been.
I'd rather watch these 2010 Cubs (Carlos Silva, ace, after they deal that nasty Carlos Zambrano for another player) than watch a World Series champion.
Out.fucking.standing. I salute you, TJ Brown!
I'm not sure if I want to become a Mariners fan, or hope Milton turns a very good team into complete shit before August. Either way, we're stuck with the fattest Carlos.
My RAGE has subsided into a dull ache.
Man, fuck this team.
This is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae that the last two years have been.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/12/byrd-winds-up-a-cub-just-as-he-wanted-all-along.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
QuoteByrd was friends with Bradley in Texas, but Bradley's experience in Chicago did not dissuade him from signing. The two share the same agent, Seth Levinson.
"The big thing about me and Milton is we had a relationship off the field," he said. "I love Milton Bradley, so I'm a little biased when it comes to him. I think he's a great guy, and I'm sure I'll talk to him today about me coming here. But I'm sure he's happy to start in another place and get a fresh start and try to put that in the past."
I love that Sullivan, who pathologically hated Bradley for not looking like a troll, wrote that.
/insufferable douche
Clear skies cover Seattle. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2010/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=4955815)
All we need is love. Love is all we need.
I so very much hate this thread.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 01, 2010, 03:38:12 PM
I so very much hate this thread.
This thread hates you
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2009, 02:17:46 PM
I love that Sullivan, who pathologically hated Bradley for not looking like a troll, wrote that.
/insufferable douche
Was this what drove you into ACB's arms?
Quote from: BH on March 01, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Clear skies cover Seattle. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2010/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=4955815)
All we need is love. Love is all we need.
Some guy I know who thinks chemistry is ALL YOU NEED FOR SUCCESS sent me that article as proof. I would think some washed-up pinch-hitter fining everyone $200 just for not memorizing stupid movie lines would be disruptive to chemistry, but I don't understand the Seattle Way.
QuoteCrazyMLBRumorguy, over his second bowl of Frosted Flakes at Mom's breakfast table, writes:
Milton Bradley told Tyler Kepner of the New York Times that "obviously, it was something with Chicago, not me." Bradley says the Cubs tried to make him a player he's not, expecting 30 home runs.
Quote from: D. Doluntap on March 04, 2010, 12:10:33 PM
QuoteCrazyMLBRumorguy, over his second bowl of Frosted Flakes at Mom's breakfast table, writes:
Milton Bradley told Tyler Kepner of the New York Times that "obviously, it was something with Chicago, not me." Bradley says the Cubs tried to make him a player he's not, expecting 30 home runs.
If I could turn back time. If I could find a way.
More here. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/bradley-on-cubs-stint-it-was-something-with-chicago-not-me.html)
QuoteIn Bradley's eyes, the blame for his unproductive season lies with "Chicago," not him.
"Two years ago, I played, and I was good," he said. "I go to Chicago, not good. I've been good my whole career. So, obviously, it was something with Chicago, not me."
QuoteBut now Bradley blames the Cubs for a lack of communication, saying they wanted him to be a home run hitter.
"Just no communication," he said. "I never hit more than 22 homers in my career, and all of a sudden I get to Chicago and they expect me to hit 30. It doesn't make sense. History tells you I'm not going to hit that many. Just a lot of things that try to make me a player I'm not."
Honestly Milton, all I wanted was decent OBP, some power, and you not to be a bigger asshole than LaTroy Hawkins.
What a fucknut.. Wait, where am I?
Quote from: Yeti on March 04, 2010, 12:21:34 PM
What a fucknut.. Wait, where am I?
Right place. The "It's racist Cub fans to blame" goes elsewhere.
Who thought we were gonna get 30 home runs out of Batshit Crazy?
Quote from: Day Man on March 01, 2010, 08:11:47 PM
Some guy I know who thinks chemistry is ALL YOU NEED FOR SUCCESS sent me that article as proof.
Everybody knows that you can't perform the extraction until you've cultured the rye.
Even I don't like this guy.
Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 04, 2010, 01:02:44 PM
Even I don't like this guy.
I love so much that you're a part of this board. Seriously. You're like our token black guy.
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 04, 2010, 01:02:44 PM
Even I don't like this guy.
I love so much that you're a part of this board. Seriously. You're like our token black guy.
Thank goodness we don't have a
real black guy on here.
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 01:13:09 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 04, 2010, 01:02:44 PM
Even I don't like this guy.
I love so much that you're a part of this board. Seriously. You're like our token black guy.
Thank goodness we don't have a real black guy on here.
Sure, but when you need a lift to the Piggly Wiggly, then where are you?
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 04, 2010, 01:02:44 PM
Even I don't like this guy.
I love so much that you're a part of this board. Seriously. You're like our token black guy.
"I'm just supposed to smile and stay out of the conversation and say things like: "Damn," "S*&t," and "That is whack."
Quote from: MAD on March 04, 2010, 01:21:16 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 01:13:09 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 04, 2010, 01:02:44 PM
Even I don't like this guy.
I love so much that you're a part of this board. Seriously. You're like our token black guy.
Thank goodness we don't have a real black guy on here.
Sure, but when you need a lift to the Piggly Wiggly, then where are you?
The wrong neighborhood?
Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 04, 2010, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 04, 2010, 01:02:44 PM
Even I don't like this guy.
I love so much that you're a part of this board. Seriously. You're like our token black guy.
"I'm just supposed to smile and stay out of the conversation and say things like: "Damn," "S*&t," and "That is whack."
That is whack.
Look Miss Daisy. Yonder's the Piggly-Wiggly.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
Right. I don't think there's anyone here who has suggested that we all just forget about Milton Bradley and have no one bring him up, ever.
Besides all of us who have suggested that. Eat shit, Yeti.
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
I don't know that fans talking about stuff is the same as him agreeing to a sit-down, taped interview with ESPN so he can yet again bitch and moan about his terrible experience in Chicago. I don't think it makes any sense to hold fans and professional athletes to the same standard.
CUBS IDOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
Yes, I'm holding him to that standard because instead of saying he's moved on and changing the subject, he jumps right back in to his crap about the Cubs which of course starts this whole cycle again. That way Bradley can play victim all over again. Fuck him.
Yes, Eli, I was only referring to Cub fans. You pinned it exactly. You are one smart motherfucker. It's not like no one in the media mentioned him every other day during the offseason after he was traded. Nothing like that at all.
I had given up my MB schtick but then someone comes in here and posts some dumb link and gets all butthurt about it
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:56:03 AM
Yes, Eli, I was only referring to Cub fans. You pinned it exactly. You are one smart motherfucker. It's not like no one in the media mentioned him every other day during the offseason after he was traded. Nothing like that at all.
I had given up my MB schtick but then someone comes in here and posts some dumb link and gets all butthurt about it
Okay...
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
Clearly that was open-ended and in no way did you make it obvious that your primary focus was on the media. And god knows we never rip on the Chicago media. Thank you for pointing out an area in which we've all been far too soft. And have you considered that we don't rip on them for bringing up Bradley because then we'd be talking about Bradley, something we don't want to do.
Quote from: SKO on March 10, 2010, 08:05:46 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:56:03 AM
Yes, Eli, I was only referring to Cub fans. You pinned it exactly. You are one smart motherfucker. It's not like no one in the media mentioned him every other day during the offseason after he was traded. Nothing like that at all.
I had given up my MB schtick but then someone comes in here and posts some dumb link and gets all butthurt about it
Okay...
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
Clearly that was open-ended and in no way did you make it obvious that your primary focus was on the media. And god knows we never rip on the Chicago media. Thank you for pointing out an area in which we've all been far too soft. And have you considered that we don't rip on them for bringing up Bradley because then we'd be talking about Bradley, something we don't want to do.
It's not like the media talking about him this offseason wasn't the main thing I was harping on over the last couple months
The media sucks, Milton's a jag, and Yeti needs a new bit.
Quote from: R-V on March 10, 2010, 08:32:16 AM
The media sucks, Milton's a jag, and Yeti needs a new bit.
Yeti, have you considered "barely closeted GAY MALE HOMOSEXUAL" as your new bit?
Every time this thread gets bumped, a puppy kills a kitten and then has to get euthanized.
Quote from: morpheus on March 10, 2010, 08:45:13 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 10, 2010, 08:32:16 AM
The media sucks, Milton's a jag, and Yeti needs a new bit.
Yeti, have you considered "barely closeted GAY MALE HOMOSEXUAL" as your new bit?
If Yeti's anyone but Steve Allen, he's stealing my bit!
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
(http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u354/MechaAshura/JesusFacepalm.jpg)
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
When did Yeti go from a douche to an insufferable douche with a chip on his shoulder?
Someone needs to mend his broken heart.
Quote from: Pre on March 10, 2010, 12:26:24 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
When did Yeti go from a douche to an insufferable douche with a chip on his shoulder?
Someone needs to mend his broken heart.
IAN to the Secksbox with the KY! IAN to the Secksbox with the KY!
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 10, 2010, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 10, 2010, 12:26:24 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
When did Yeti go from a douche to an insufferable douche with a chip on his shoulder?
Someone needs to mend his broken heart.
IAN to the Secksbox with the KY! IAN to the Secksbox with the KY!
His broke yesterday :-(
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 10, 2010, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 10, 2010, 12:26:24 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 10, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0310-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100309,0,100829.story)
Even more shit from that fucktard Bradley.
QuoteI don't have time to hold grudges against people."
Then shut the fuck up about the Cubs already.
To be fair, many people in Chicago are talking about him still. So we hold him to the standard of not talking about Chicago (when asked by a reporter) but we don't hold others to not talking about Bradley? K, makes sense.
When did Yeti go from a douche to an insufferable douche with a chip on his shoulder?
Someone needs to mend his broken heart.
IAN to the Secksbox with the KY! IAN to the Secksbox with the KY!
His broke yesterday :-(
It explains so much. Sadface indeed.
BOOM.
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/316282/BradleyTossed2_reduced.gif)
He apparently thought he made the third out. Guess you have to give him the benefit of doubt, anyone could make that mistake once.
Quote from: thehawk on March 18, 2010, 01:57:04 PM
He apparently thought he made the third out. Guess you have to give him the benefit of doubt, anyone could make that mistake once.
What an unhappy fucker he is.
It would behoove Seattle fans to just kill this cocksucker now and dump his body in the Puget Sound.
Quote from: OFace on March 19, 2010, 12:03:14 AM
It would behoove anyone who is a fan of baseball for Seattle fans to just kill this cocksucker now and dump his body in the Puget Sound.
Corrected
Quote from: PenFoe on March 10, 2010, 10:04:16 AM
Every time this thread gets bumped, a puppy kills a kitten and then has to get euthanized.
So long as they are
your puppies and kittens ...
Bump.
Obviously the umpire is a chicago native.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=300319117&prov=ap
I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5025391)
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 25, 2010, 07:38:51 AM
I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5025391)
Kanye West and Ron Artest are both fucking pricks who should die, too.
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 25, 2010, 10:01:58 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 25, 2010, 07:38:51 AM
I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5025391)
Kanye West and Ron Artest are both fucking pricks who should die, too.
Quote"I had a teammate last year who said if I ever change, he'd kick my [rear]," Bradley said. "So I'm not changing. Everybody is not going to love you, no matter how you treat other people, no matter what you say. never say anything bad about anybody. Somebody is always going to have something bad to say about you."
JAY KVOX?
(And I suppose I wasn't responding to your post.. too late though)
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 25, 2010, 07:38:51 AM
I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5025391)
Quote"In baseball, they've got Milton Bradley. I'm that guy. You need people like me, so you can point your finger and go, 'There goes the bad guy."
Quoting Scarface? Way to set yourself apart from the crowd.
The World Is Yours, Milt.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 25, 2010, 10:07:26 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 25, 2010, 07:38:51 AM
I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5025391)
Quote"In baseball, they've got Milton Bradley. I'm that guy. You need people like me, so you can point your finger and go, 'There goes the bad guy."
Quoting Scarface? Way to set yourself apart from the crowd.
The World Is Yours, Milt.
Does Milt have a Tiger? A sister? so many questions.
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 25, 2010, 10:01:58 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 25, 2010, 07:38:51 AM
I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5025391)
Kanye West and Ron Artest are both fucking pricks who should die, too.
Ron Artest is my favorite Indiana Pacer of all time. And he should die, too.
SPLOOOGE...Oh wait, he's not on the Cubs anymore. Nevermind.
This is a non-story, but I thought the comments were funny. Parts of them, anyway.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/176911-bradley-may-have-made-obscene-gesture-to-texas-fans?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
Oh, Kurt posted something.
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
In Kurt's defense, I do recall this being a story after Bradley bailed before the end of last season. Of course that was like 8 months ago, not 2, and there were no details then about the mess in the apartment, which make it seem like this crazy fuck was acting like Martin Sheen in the hotel room in "Apocalypse Now" but I do have the sneaking suspicion this was originally in the news a while back.
Quote from: MAD on April 22, 2010, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
In Kurt's defense, I do recall this being a story after Bradley bailed before the end of last season. Of course that was like 8 months ago, not 2, and there were no details then about the mess in the apartment, which make it seem like this crazy fuck was acting like Martin Sheen in the hotel room in "Apocalypse Now" but I do have the sneaking suspicion this was originally in the news a while back.
We're about irrational hatreds here. Take your glad-handing, rational ways elsewhere.
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: MAD on April 22, 2010, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
In Kurt's defense, I do recall this being a story after Bradley bailed before the end of last season. Of course that was like 8 months ago, not 2, and there were no details then about the mess in the apartment, which make it seem like this crazy fuck was acting like Martin Sheen in the hotel room in "Apocalypse Now" but I do have the sneaking suspicion this was originally in the news a while back.
We're about irrational hatreds here. Take your glad-handing, rational ways elsewhere.
Mike D has
changed, man.
Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: MAD on April 22, 2010, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
In Kurt's defense, I do recall this being a story after Bradley bailed before the end of last season. Of course that was like 8 months ago, not 2, and there were no details then about the mess in the apartment, which make it seem like this crazy fuck was acting like Martin Sheen in the hotel room in "Apocalypse Now" but I do have the sneaking suspicion this was originally in the news a while back.
We're about irrational hatreds here. Take your glad-handing, rational ways elsewhere.
Mike D has changed, man.
So much more likeable when he was Mike B.
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 02:46:34 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: MAD on April 22, 2010, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
In Kurt's defense, I do recall this being a story after Bradley bailed before the end of last season. Of course that was like 8 months ago, not 2, and there were no details then about the mess in the apartment, which make it seem like this crazy fuck was acting like Martin Sheen in the hotel room in "Apocalypse Now" but I do have the sneaking suspicion this was originally in the news a while back.
We're about irrational hatreds here. Take your glad-handing, rational ways elsewhere.
Mike D has changed, man.
So much more likeable when he was Mike B.
Before the major label deal?
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 02:46:34 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: MAD on April 22, 2010, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
In Kurt's defense, I do recall this being a story after Bradley bailed before the end of last season. Of course that was like 8 months ago, not 2, and there were no details then about the mess in the apartment, which make it seem like this crazy fuck was acting like Martin Sheen in the hotel room in "Apocalypse Now" but I do have the sneaking suspicion this was originally in the news a while back.
We're about irrational hatreds here. Take your glad-handing, rational ways elsewhere.
Mike D has changed, man.
So much more likeable when he was Mike B.
Before the major label deal?
SELLOUT!
Quote from: Oleg on April 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 22, 2010, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gold-coast-condo-owner-sues-ex-cub-bradley.html)
Could it be unsurprising because it's been in the news for at least two months?
What kind of a moron calendar is Canada on?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH3UmImhmv0/S4_B3hOBgAI/AAAAAAAAAY8/ctTTe_3hnlM/s400/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: time stamp on story
April 21, 2010 9:36 PM
This one (http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2010/01/milton_bradley_is_being_sued_f.html).
Quote from: time stamp on story
January 16, 2010 12:01 PM
Maybe it's a fake -- Kyle Koster is clearly a made-up name.
So I guess it wasn't all Cubs fans' fault. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/report-bradley-walked-out-on-mariners-during-game.html)
What a shitbum.
Oleg and I encountered a racist Cub fan last night. Not good times. He hails from the great state of Iowa lives amongst us on the Northside now. I don't like people.
Milton needs to get help or he's going to wind up like Donnie Moore.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 05, 2010, 08:40:03 PM
Milton needs to get help or he's going to wind up like Donnie Moore.
That would save the Mariners a lot of money.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 05, 2010, 08:40:03 PM
Milton needs to get help or he's going to wind up like Donnie Moore.
So what's the downside?
Oh? (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/mariners-bradley-asks-for-help-with-emotional-issues/article1559020/)
I do hope Bradley gets better (sane) and goes on to live a productive life. If he can salvage his baseball career, great! But he's doing it away from the Cubs. Even better.
Now, if Hendry can convert Carlos Silva into real, live young players that can help this team in 2011 and 2012 and find a trade partner for Soriano, his next employer should be BP.
DPD.
I hope you have a chance to read this. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2011938881_bradley24.html)
Sad story, but he might just be getting it together.
Quote from: Brownie on May 24, 2010, 09:18:40 AM
DPD.
I hope you have a chance to read this. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2011938881_bradley24.html)
Sad story, but he might just be getting it together.
I doubt it. I am very pessimistic about cases like his. The only thing that works is being on the right medicaition and staying on it. That may be antithetical for a professional athlete. Reading the fan comments was very entertaining. They seem to feel that rehabilitation is the primary object of a baseball team. All this time I thought it was about entertainment. (Except for the kind that Milton provided)
Quote from: CBStew on May 24, 2010, 01:26:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 24, 2010, 09:18:40 AM
DPD.
I hope you have a chance to read this. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2011938881_bradley24.html)
Sad story, but he might just be getting it together.
I doubt it. I am very pessimistic about cases like his. The only thing that works is being on the right medicaition and staying on it. That may be antithetical for a professional athlete. Reading the fan comments was very entertaining. They seem to feel that rehabilitation is the primary object of a baseball team. All this time I thought it was about entertainment. (Except for the kind that Milton provided)
Seattke makes Berkeley look like Buttfuck, Mississippi.
Quote from: Brownie on May 24, 2010, 09:18:40 AM
DPD.
I hope you have a chance to read this. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2011938881_bradley24.html)
Sad story, but he might just be getting it together.
Only in sports can someone like Jim Hendry sign a player like Bradley to a 3 year $30 million contract and keep his job.
Quote from: thehawk on May 24, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 24, 2010, 09:18:40 AM
DPD.
I hope you have a chance to read this. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2011938881_bradley24.html)
Sad story, but he might just be getting it together.
Only in sports can someone like Jim Hendry sign a player like Bradley to a 3 year $30 million contract and keep his job.
Are there that many other businesses where you sign people to $30 million contracts?
Quote from: SKO on May 24, 2010, 02:10:49 PM
Quote from: thehawk on May 24, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 24, 2010, 09:18:40 AM
DPD.
I hope you have a chance to read this. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2011938881_bradley24.html)
Sad story, but he might just be getting it together.
Only in sports can someone like Jim Hendry sign a player like Bradley to a 3 year $30 million contract and keep his job.
Are there that many other businesses where you sign people to $30 million contracts?
I'm sure some senior executives get deals like that.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 24, 2010, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 24, 2010, 02:10:49 PM
Quote from: thehawk on May 24, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 24, 2010, 09:18:40 AM
DPD.
I hope you have a chance to read this. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2011938881_bradley24.html)
Sad story, but he might just be getting it together.
Only in sports can someone like Jim Hendry sign a player like Bradley to a 3 year $30 million contract and keep his job.
Are there that many other businesses where you sign people to $30 million contracts?
I'm sure some senior executives get deals like that.
Gentlemen, I give you Bob Nardelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Nardelli).
COACH KILLAR (http://twitter.com/BrockandSalk/status/20729788652)
Bump.
rotoworld style.
"According to Andrew Blankstein of the Los Angeles Times, Milton Bradley was arrested Tuesday afternoon in the San Fernando Valley on suspicion of felony battery.
Bradley was arrested earlier this year for allegedly making threats against his wife. Police were sent to the same address for Tuesday's arrest, though details of the incident aren't yet available. Bradley, who hasn't played since being cut loose by the Mariners in May, was released on bail and is due back in court on October 18.
Source: Los Angeles Times
Sep 28 - 2:47 PM
"
Quote from: BH on September 28, 2011, 02:07:32 PM
Bump.
rotoworld style.
"According to Andrew Blankstein of the Los Angeles Times, Milton Bradley was arrested Tuesday afternoon in the San Fernando Valley on suspicion of felony battery.
Bradley was arrested earlier this year for allegedly making threats against his wife. Police were sent to the same address for Tuesday's arrest, though details of the incident aren't yet available. Bradley, who hasn't played since being cut loose by the Mariners in May, was released on bail and is due back in court on October 18.
Source: Los Angeles Times
Sep 28 - 2:47 PM
"
Convicted. (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/9339514/former-los-angeles-dodger-milton-bradley-convicted-abusing-wife) Sentencing in July, maximum of 7 1/2 years.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 03, 2013, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: BH on September 28, 2011, 02:07:32 PM
Bump.
rotoworld style.
"According to Andrew Blankstein of the Los Angeles Times, Milton Bradley was arrested Tuesday afternoon in the San Fernando Valley on suspicion of felony battery.
Bradley was arrested earlier this year for allegedly making threats against his wife. Police were sent to the same address for Tuesday's arrest, though details of the incident aren't yet available. Bradley, who hasn't played since being cut loose by the Mariners in May, was released on bail and is due back in court on October 18.
Source: Los Angeles Times
Sep 28 - 2:47 PM
"
Convicted. (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/9339514/former-los-angeles-dodger-milton-bradley-convicted-abusing-wife) Sentencing in July, maximum of 7 1/2 years.
This is pretty much all the fault of Paul Sullivan and his racist coverage.
I'm sorry
The California Penal League is about to get its most exciting/insane prospect since Ricky Vaughn. Milt has been sentenced to almost three years (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-me-ln--milton-bradley-to-jail-20130702,0,2591488.story).
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 02, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
The California Penal League is about to get its most exciting/insane prospect since Ricky Vaughn. Milt has been sentenced to almost three years (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-me-ln--milton-bradley-to-jail-20130702,0,2591488.story).
And you all said nobody but Hendry would give Milton 3 years.
Quote from: CT III on July 03, 2013, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 02, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
The California Penal League is about to get its most exciting/insane prospect since Ricky Vaughn. Milt has been sentenced to almost three years (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-me-ln--milton-bradley-to-jail-20130702,0,2591488.story).
And you all said nobody but Hendry would give Milton 3 years.
CT, you win.
Quote from: Brownie on July 03, 2013, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 03, 2013, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 02, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
The California Penal League is about to get its most exciting/insane prospect since Ricky Vaughn. Milt has been sentenced to almost three years (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-me-ln--milton-bradley-to-jail-20130702,0,2591488.story).
And you all said nobody but Hendry would give Milton 3 years.
CT, you win.
If Desipio had a "like" or "favorite" button, CT's post would have been the perfect time to use it. Because it was funny.
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2013, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 03, 2013, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 03, 2013, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 02, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
The California Penal League is about to get its most exciting/insane prospect since Ricky Vaughn. Milt has been sentenced to almost three years (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-me-ln--milton-bradley-to-jail-20130702,0,2591488.story).
And you all said nobody but Hendry would give Milton 3 years.
I, too, would like to support this post.
CT, you win.
If Desipio had a "like" or "favorite" button, CT's post would have been the perfect time to use it. Because it was funny.
Quote from: Bort on July 03, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2013, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 03, 2013, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 03, 2013, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 02, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
The California Penal League is about to get its most exciting/insane prospect since Ricky Vaughn. Milt has been sentenced to almost three years (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-me-ln--milton-bradley-to-jail-20130702,0,2591488.story).
And you all said nobody but Hendry would give Milton 3 years.
I, too, would like to support this post.
CT, you win.
If Desipio had a "like" or "favorite" button, CT's post would have been the perfect time to use it. Because it was funny.
Quote from: ChuckD on July 03, 2013, 06:47:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 03, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2013, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 03, 2013, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 03, 2013, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 02, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
The California Penal League is about to get its most exciting/insane prospect since Ricky Vaughn. Milt has been sentenced to almost three years (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-me-ln--milton-bradley-to-jail-20130702,0,2591488.story).
And you all said nobody but Hendry would give Milton 3 years.
I, too, would like to support this post.
CT, you win.
If Desipio had a "like" or "favorite" button, CT's post would have been the perfect time to use it. Because it was funny.
Quote from: morpheus on July 05, 2013, 10:05:59 AM
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 02, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
The California Penal League is about to get its most exciting/insane prospect since Ricky Vaughn. Milt has been sentenced to almost three years (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-me-ln--milton-bradley-to-jail-20130702,0,2591488.story).
And you all said nobody but Hendry would give Milton 3 years.
I, too, would like to support this post.
CT, you win.
If Desipio had a "like" or "favorite" button, CT's post would have been the perfect time to use it. Because it was funny.
Jeebus http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/04/08/milton-bradley-domestic-abuse-mlb-monique-bradley
Quote from: Yeti on April 09, 2015, 12:56:51 PM
Jeebus http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/04/08/milton-bradley-domestic-abuse-mlb-monique-bradley
This is absolutely heartbreaking to read.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 09, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 09, 2015, 12:56:51 PM
Jeebus http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/04/08/milton-bradley-domestic-abuse-mlb-monique-bradley
This is absolutely heartbreaking to read.
Not as heartbreaking as some of the comments. Christ almighty the lengths some men will go to justify hittng women.
Okay I've scoured this thread and done a quick search and I don't think there's any record of me ever defending this garbage person. But some of you people should be ashamed.
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
Okay I've scoured this thread and done a quick search and I don't think there's any record of me ever defending this garbage person. But some of you people should be ashamed.
Congratulations? Did you speak out against it and condemn the move at the time, or do you just want to go Captain Hindsight on everyone else to feel good about yourself? I was a lot more naive when they signed him, much less progressively conscious and socially aware, thinking maybe Jim was right, that Bradley looked him in the eye at dinner and said he's a changed man, and maybe this guy might help make my favorite team win some games for a change. I feel pretty stupid about all that now, sure. If the signing happened this offseason, even without the SI article, I'd be ready to run Theo out of town. It's the same way I feel about the Ray McDonald signing, which is a major fuckup no matter how he plays this season. Unless there's some other point you're making, or this is just some dumb joke I'm taking too seriously, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
Okay I've scoured this thread and done a quick search and I don't think there's any record of me ever defending this garbage person. But some of you people should be ashamed.
*DELETES ACCOUNT*
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 10, 2015, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
Okay I've scoured this thread and done a quick search and I don't think there's any record of me ever defending this garbage person. But some of you people should be ashamed.
Congratulations? Did you speak out against it and condemn the move at the time, or do you just want to go Captain Hindsight on everyone else to feel good about yourself? I was a lot more naive when they signed him, much less progressively conscious and socially aware, thinking maybe Jim was right, that Bradley looked him in the eye at dinner and said he's a changed man, and maybe this guy might help make my favorite team win some games for a change. I feel pretty stupid about all that now, sure. If the signing happened this offseason, even without the SI article, I'd be ready to run Theo out of town. It's the same way I feel about the Ray McDonald signing, which is a major fuckup no matter how he plays this season. Unless there's some other point you're making, or this is just some dumb joke I'm taking too seriously, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.
Geez, man.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 10, 2015, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
Okay I've scoured this thread and done a quick search and I don't think there's any record of me ever defending this garbage person. But some of you people should be ashamed.
Congratulations? Did you speak out against it and condemn the move at the time, or do you just want to go Captain Hindsight on everyone else to feel good about yourself? I was a lot more naive when they signed him, much less progressively conscious and socially aware, thinking maybe Jim was right, that Bradley looked him in the eye at dinner and said he's a changed man, and maybe this guy might help make my favorite team win some games for a change. I feel pretty stupid about all that now, sure. If the signing happened this offseason, even without the SI article, I'd be ready to run Theo out of town. It's the same way I feel about the Ray McDonald signing, which is a major fuckup no matter how he plays this season. Unless there's some other point you're making, or this is just some dumb joke I'm taking too seriously, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.
Ding. Jesus Christ. Lighten up, francis.
I actually remember defending the Milton signing for about the first two months of that season, and then just staying silent during every discussion about him after. I have no moral high ground to stand on. I was just making a joke about how you couldn't prove in court that I ever defended that dude, but ChuckD and Yeti especially need to go grab their hair shirts and start begging forgiveness.
Sadly if you're asking if anyone was the moral compass of Desipio, right from the very start, turns out it was Pen.
Actually my only two major contributions to this thread now are arguing with both KurtEvans and Sterling over how to take a joke, so y'all don't have to feel bad about all the time you spent fighting for a lost cause.
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 10, 2015, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
Okay I've scoured this thread and done a quick search and I don't think there's any record of me ever defending this garbage person. But some of you people should be ashamed.
Congratulations? Did you speak out against it and condemn the move at the time, or do you just want to go Captain Hindsight on everyone else to feel good about yourself? I was a lot more naive when they signed him, much less progressively conscious and socially aware, thinking maybe Jim was right, that Bradley looked him in the eye at dinner and said he's a changed man, and maybe this guy might help make my favorite team win some games for a change. I feel pretty stupid about all that now, sure. If the signing happened this offseason, even without the SI article, I'd be ready to run Theo out of town. It's the same way I feel about the Ray McDonald signing, which is a major fuckup no matter how he plays this season. Unless there's some other point you're making, or this is just some dumb joke I'm taking too seriously, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.
Ding. Jesus Christ. Lighten up, francis.
I actually remember defending the Milton signing for about the first two months of that season, and then just staying silent during every discussion about him after. I have no moral high ground to stand on. I was just making a joke about how you couldn't prove in court that I ever defended that dude, but ChuckD and Yeti especially need to go grab their hair shirts and start begging forgiveness.
Sadly if you're asking if anyone was the moral compass of Desipio, right from the very start, turns out it was Pen.
I'm going to hate myself for typing this but there were some MikeC posts early in the thread that were pretty critical of Bradley.
Quote from: flannj on April 10, 2015, 08:30:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 10, 2015, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
Okay I've scoured this thread and done a quick search and I don't think there's any record of me ever defending this garbage person. But some of you people should be ashamed.
Congratulations? Did you speak out against it and condemn the move at the time, or do you just want to go Captain Hindsight on everyone else to feel good about yourself? I was a lot more naive when they signed him, much less progressively conscious and socially aware, thinking maybe Jim was right, that Bradley looked him in the eye at dinner and said he's a changed man, and maybe this guy might help make my favorite team win some games for a change. I feel pretty stupid about all that now, sure. If the signing happened this offseason, even without the SI article, I'd be ready to run Theo out of town. It's the same way I feel about the Ray McDonald signing, which is a major fuckup no matter how he plays this season. Unless there's some other point you're making, or this is just some dumb joke I'm taking too seriously, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.
Ding. Jesus Christ. Lighten up, francis.
I actually remember defending the Milton signing for about the first two months of that season, and then just staying silent during every discussion about him after. I have no moral high ground to stand on. I was just making a joke about how you couldn't prove in court that I ever defended that dude, but ChuckD and Yeti especially need to go grab their hair shirts and start begging forgiveness.
Sadly if you're asking if anyone was the moral compass of Desipio, right from the very start, turns out it was Pen.
I'm going to hate myself for typing this but there were some MikeC posts early in the thread that were pretty critical of Bradley.
Yeah but that doesn't count. He hated him because he was hitting .184 and "stoopid hendry", not moral reasons. Pen was pretty clear from the start he hated Milton for being an asshole. Fortunately Pen's a loathsome hypocrite anyway because he supports a rapist QB, otherwise I'd feel pretty bad about him being out in front of us on this one.
Quote from: MikeC on April 27, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
Is this the thread where Bradley can do no wrong?
Let me know when the thread "Bradley is a piece of shit why did we spend 30 million on him to sit on the bench?"
How is that Bobby Abreu guy working out? What, he is hitting .375? Holy fuck thats like 27 times the hits Bradley has.
Fuck Bradley, his paper mache body and victim mentality. And who knew that this Bradley injury disease was contagious. Thank god we only have 3 more years of this bullshit.
And on another note I only reread the front and back of the thread but man there is some beautiful Carlos Silva / Jim Hendry rage happening on the last few pages.
Quote from: flannj on April 10, 2015, 08:41:05 AM
Quote from: MikeC on April 27, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
Is this the thread where Bradley can do no wrong?
Let me know when the thread "Bradley is a piece of shit why did we spend 30 million on him to sit on the bench?"
How is that Bobby Abreu guy working out? What, he is hitting .375? Holy fuck thats like 27 times the hits Bradley has.
Fuck Bradley, his paper mache body and victim mentality. And who knew that this Bradley injury disease was contagious. Thank god we only have 3 more years of this bullshit.
And on another note I only reread the front and back of the thread but man there is some beautiful Carlos Silva / Jim Hendry rage happening on the last few pages.
Christ on a bike. Mike C was right and we were all wrong. Shut her down. We don't deserve the internet.
And yeah the Carlos Silva stuff redeems the thread to some extent.
Also if your wife is on bedrest and you have fucking nothing to do sometimes you read 68 pages of a desipio thread so what you wanna fight about it?
In the midst of everything else about this human piece of garbage, he sent videos of him having sex with his wife to HER DAD!
Jesus, dude.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 10, 2015, 09:08:57 AM
In the midst of everything else about this human piece of garbage, he sent videos of him having sex with his wife to HER DAD!
Jesus, dude.
Yeah that one turned my stomach a bit.
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 10, 2015, 09:08:57 AM
In the midst of everything else about this human piece of garbage, he sent videos of him having sex with his wife to HER DAD!
Jesus, dude.
Yeah that one turned my stomach a bit.
But it's okay, he's out free with full custody now. Jesus.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 05, 2010, 08:40:03 PM
Milton needs to get help or he's going to wind up like Donnie Moore.
Wrong one ended up that way.