http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=291618 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=291618)
hehehe
Either somebody at the Daily Herald has a sense of humor or they're in desperate need of a few copy editors.
QuoteNo relief as Shite Sox blow lead in Kansas City
Outstanding.
Forever memorialized, in case they change it:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/219z1vt.jpg)
Print up the T-shirts, and we can all retire.
Quote from: Eli on May 06, 2009, 09:53:18 AM
Forever memorialized, in case they change it:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/219z1vt.jpg)
Thank you.
Already fixed.
Nothing to do with the typo, but this is why they must "Free the Daily Herald Two.."
Lindsey Willhite, writing from his living room:
QuotePet peeve: Bobby Jenks hadn't pitched since Friday. He warmed up Tuesday, but Lance Broadway entered in the 11th instead. Why? Because it wasn't a save situation? Pitch your best guy.
You know, if he was there, he could have asked Ozzie. And the response would have sold enough newspapers to justify two nights in KC and flight.
The greatest player in all of Chicago... benched.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-07-white-sox-tigers-chicago-may07,0,1792676.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-07-white-sox-tigers-chicago-may07,0,1792676.story)
Shite Sox. Heh heh. Love it.
Wait, you mean Phil Rogers was premature with his declaration that Alexi the 37 year old Cuban rookie was a superstar? Blasphemy!
Always nice when great nicknames happens via typos.
One of the writers at our shitty paper accidentally slipped "Kentrucky" past the editors, and now we use it all the time.
I think this is the thread for this...
Looks like Jenks decided to
be a pussy act responsible like Miggy and quit drinking. (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100222&content_id=8112452&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb&partnerId=rss_mlb)
Quote
"I just got tired of it, plain and simple," Jenks said. "When you want a bad habit out of your life, either you wean yourself off or you quit cold turkey.
"For me, it was easier to just quit. It was to the point where it was easy for me to lose control. I got to the point where not for my sake and my family's sake, but everyone's around me, it was just time to back off and live my life not for myself.
"Everyone says you live for your family," said Jenks, the father of four. "But when you are doing something like that, you are living selfishly and I was tired of living that way."
Quote
What led Jenks to see his drinking as a trouble spot? It was a daily pattern of unwanted behavior.
"Getting [drunk] every night. Let's put it plain and simple," Jenks said. "When I took a long, hard look at myself and saw where I was headed, at that point, I was headed in the wrong direction.
Quote
"No, I'm not an alcoholic. It was just time to stop."
I'm not saying that a father of four who gets drunk every single day is an alcoholic, I'm just saying that if you can lose 25 pounds just by stopping drinking...you probably had a drinking problem.
(http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/YourInkStinks2.jpg)
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2010, 07:43:38 AM
(http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/YourInkStinks2.jpg)
White Sex?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 11:56:32 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2010, 07:43:38 AM
(http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/YourInkStinks2.jpg)
White Sex?
That's some fancy letterin'. I think it says "Mb1TF Gex".
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 11:56:32 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2010, 07:43:38 AM
(http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/YourInkStinks2.jpg)
White Sex?
That's some fancy letterin'. I think it says "Mb1TF Gex".
I just love the curly line thingys near the top of the tat.
Speaking of ugly tattoos, here's another.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/24/kelly-ripas-new-tattoo-ph_n_474614.html
Most tattoos suck, but wrist tattoos suck much much more.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:03:37 PM
Most tattoos suck, but wrist tattoos suck much much more.
Meat's tribal band tattoo on his forearm is pretty outstanding.
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 11:56:32 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2010, 07:43:38 AM
(http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/YourInkStinks2.jpg)
White Sex?
That's some fancy letterin'. I think it says "Mb1TF Gex".
Translated it means: "Me? Boy, I'd like to fuck Chris Getz." Socks fans are an odd sort. I no like.
Kenny doesn't like it that Ozzie has a Twitter account (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4943110).
"Listen, I'm a grown man," Guillen said. "A lot of people think I do stuff without thinking or talking to people. Any information out there, I'm not stupid enough where I will say, 'We're going to make a move today.' ... That's not the idea. I'm not going to give fans the message before I give it to the media, it's never going to happen. The Twitter is like what I am doing today, have fun with it. It's all personal."
"First of all, I don't know how to Twitter. Second of all, I'm not going to learn how to Twitter. Look, I've heard of Facebook. Actually, it's on my phone; I see it once in a while," Piniella said.
"But I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy, you know? I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy," he said.
This (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4956136) is gonna be great to follow all year long.
""We tried to make a leadoff hitter out of that guy for the last three years, [former prospect] Jerry Owens, and look at what happened. What we have here is legit. He's got experience. One thing about Juan, he brings a lot of stuff off the field. He's a leader, he's a hard worker, I think he's a guy who brings enthusiasm to the game.""
From the minor league organizational rankings by Kevin Goldstein at BP:
Quote27. Chicago White Sox
Last Year's Ranking: 24
Why They Are Here: In some ways it's for good reasons, as Gordon Beckham developed so fast that he's not eligible any more. Still, after that, things fall off quite quickly, as we can dream on Jared Mitchell all day long, but he and outfielder Jordan Danks are the only position prospects who would also rank on other teams' lists.
Where They Will Be Next Year: Could go either way. Mitchell is a boom or bust type, as is outfielder Trayce Thompson, while third baseman Dayan Viciedo is looking like he might fall into the same category. They'll likely lose top prospect Daniel Hudson, and possibly their third-best player, Tyler Flowers, tio major-league promotions, so somebody has to step up.
Cubs will be in the top half tomorrow.
"TAINT!" (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0409-20100409,0,6577663.column?page=1)
Quote from: powen01 on April 09, 2010, 09:59:07 AM
"TAINT!" (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0409-20100409,0,6577663.column?page=1)
John Kass is indignant!!!!!!!
Was I the only one shocked to find out it wasn't two men in the stall?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 09, 2010, 11:08:49 AM
Was I the only one shocked to find out it wasn't two men in the stall?
It wasn't on the Northside.
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 09, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 09, 2010, 11:08:49 AM
Was I the only one shocked to find out it wasn't two men in the stall?
It wasn't on the Northside.
Yeah, that's definitely what Sox fans were thinking reading that article.
"If dat was at Wriggly dere would be two pee pee smoochers in dere!"
Seriously, what is wrong with people?
Quote from: Slaky on April 09, 2010, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 09, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 09, 2010, 11:08:49 AM
Was I the only one shocked to find out it wasn't two men in the stall?
It wasn't on the Northside.
Yeah, that's definitely what Sox fans were thinking reading that article.
"If dat was at Wriggly dere would be two pee pee smoochers in dere!"
Those weren't real Sox fans, as we all know they only pay attention to what happens on the field, whereas Cub fans only want the ballpark experience.
Quote from: Shooter on April 09, 2010, 10:18:27 AM
Quote from: powen01 on April 09, 2010, 09:59:07 AM
"TAINT!" (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0409-20100409,0,6577663.column?page=1)
John Kass is indignant!!!!!!!
Christ almighty, this Kasshurtedness is almost as laughable as Billy Payne's sermon on morality at Augusta.
QuoteBut they'll have security — off-duty cops — watching every restroom. Bet on it.
That's because two big-time Sox fans, guys who can actually name great players of the past, read the Tribune and won't let it happen again. Their names are Mayor Richard Daley and Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf.
They're parents. And so are many Sox players.
You can BET ON no more blumpkins at the Cell, pal. Because I am John Kass and I'm still important!
Quote from: Fork on April 09, 2010, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 09, 2010, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 09, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 09, 2010, 11:08:49 AM
Was I the only one shocked to find out it wasn't two men in the stall?
It wasn't on the Northside.
Yeah, that's definitely what Sox fans were thinking reading that article.
"If dat was at Wriggly dere would be two pee pee smoochers in dere!"
Those weren't real Sox fans, as we all know they only pay attention to what happens on the at Wrigley fField, whereas Cub fans only want the ballpark experience.
Unhealthy obsession'd.
I've heard this same thing happens at PF Chang's.
Quote from: R-V on April 09, 2010, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: Shooter on April 09, 2010, 10:18:27 AM
Quote from: powen01 on April 09, 2010, 09:59:07 AM
"TAINT!" (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0409-20100409,0,6577663.column?page=1)
John Kass is indignant!!!!!!!
Christ almighty, this Kasshurtedness is almost as laughable as Billy Payne's sermon on morality at Augusta.
QuoteBut they'll have security — off-duty cops — watching every restroom. Bet on it.
That's because two big-time Sox fans, guys who can actually name great players of the past, read the Tribune and won't let it happen again. Their names are Mayor Richard Daley and Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf.
They're parents. And so are many Sox players.
You can BET ON no more blumpkins at the Cell, pal. Because I am John Kass and I'm still important!
I have started to take my shits with the door open... everywhere... lest John Kass kick in the door on his sexual witch hunt. I never told you guys how I wipe, but Jonn "Da Public Sex Police" Kass will know soon enough. Watch out for that column. He is going to be
very indignant, slightly horrified and covered in poo.
Quote from: powen01 on April 09, 2010, 12:40:41 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 09, 2010, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: Shooter on April 09, 2010, 10:18:27 AM
Quote from: powen01 on April 09, 2010, 09:59:07 AM
"TAINT!" (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0409-20100409,0,6577663.column?page=1)
John Kass is indignant!!!!!!!
Christ almighty, this Kasshurtedness is almost as laughable as Billy Payne's sermon on morality at Augusta.
QuoteBut they'll have security — off-duty cops — watching every restroom. Bet on it.
That's because two big-time Sox fans, guys who can actually name great players of the past, read the Tribune and won't let it happen again. Their names are Mayor Richard Daley and Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf.
They're parents. And so are many Sox players.
You can BET ON no more blumpkins at the Cell, pal. Because I am John Kass and I'm still important!
I have started to take my shits with the door open... everywhere... lest John Kass kick in the door on his sexual witch hunt. I never told you guys how I wipe, but Jonn "Da Public Sex Police" Kass will know soon enough. Watch out for that column. He is going to be very indignant, slightly horrified and covered in poo.
Doesn't that describe him as he writes every day?
Quote from: powen01 on April 09, 2010, 12:40:41 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 09, 2010, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: Shooter on April 09, 2010, 10:18:27 AM
Quote from: powen01 on April 09, 2010, 09:59:07 AM
"TAINT!" (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0409-20100409,0,6577663.column?page=1)
John Kass is indignant!!!!!!!
Christ almighty, this Kasshurtedness is almost as laughable as Billy Payne's sermon on morality at Augusta.
QuoteBut they'll have security — off-duty cops — watching every restroom. Bet on it.
That's because two big-time Sox fans, guys who can actually name great players of the past, read the Tribune and won't let it happen again. Their names are Mayor Richard Daley and Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf.
They're parents. And so are many Sox players.
You can BET ON no more blumpkins at the Cell, pal. Because I am John Kass and I'm still important!
I have started to take my shits with the door open... everywhere... lest John Kass kick in the door on his sexual witch hunt. I never told you guys how I wipe, but Jonn "Da Public Sex Police" Kass will know soon enough. Watch out for that column. He is going to be very indignant, slightly horrified and covered in poo.
Outstanding.
Whole-heartedly agree with number 7: I hate them too.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471204575210384180269378.html?mod=WSJ_NY_Sports_LEFTTopStories#articleTabs%3Darticle
Quote from: Indolent Reader on April 28, 2010, 12:23:45 PM
Whole-heartedly agree with number 7: I hate them too.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471204575210384180269378.html?mod=WSJ_NY_Sports_LEFTTopStories#articleTabs%3Darticle
Who cares enough about the Indians to hate them?
I just feel bad for them.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 28, 2010, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on April 28, 2010, 12:23:45 PM
Whole-heartedly agree with number 7: I hate them too.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471204575210384180269378.html?mod=WSJ_NY_Sports_LEFTTopStories#articleTabs%3Darticle
Who cares enough about the Indians to hate them?
I just feel bad for them.
My kinda team Charlie. My kind of team.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on April 28, 2010, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 28, 2010, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on April 28, 2010, 12:23:45 PM
Whole-heartedly agree with number 7: I hate them too.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471204575210384180269378.html?mod=WSJ_NY_Sports_LEFTTopStories#articleTabs%3Darticle
Who cares enough about the Indians to hate them?
I just feel bad for them.
My kinda team Charlie. My kind of team.
(http://www.walkoffwalk.com/cinema.majorleague.groundskeepers.jpg)
http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing (http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing)
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 23, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing (http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing)
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The Griffey White Sox jersey proves this guy's life is full of poor decisions.
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2010, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 23, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing (http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing)
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The Griffey White Sox jersey proves this guy's life is full of poor decisions.
- The guy in the Griffey jersey landed some really good punches on Hurley.
- Nice security response.
- The vendor's reaction was awesome when he sneaked away.
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 24, 2010, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2010, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 23, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing (http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing)
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The Griffey White Sox jersey proves this guy's life is full of poor decisions.
- The guy in the Griffey jersey landed some really good punches on Hurley.
- Nice security response.
- The vendor's reaction was awesome when he sneaked away.
Hey! No pushing. If I run out of Red Ropes , I can get more!
Amazingly, Ozzie's scribblings on a baseball are more comprehensible than his keyboard droppings on Twitter. Who knew? (http://deadspin.com/5548316/ozzie-guillen-has-no-sympathy-for-clevelanders)
Quote from: Day Man on May 26, 2010, 02:18:01 PM
Amazingly, Ozzie's scribblings on a baseball are more comprehensible than his keyboard droppings on Twitter. Who knew? (http://deadspin.com/5548316/ozzie-guillen-has-no-sympathy-for-clevelanders)
Ozzie is just pissed that no one is giving him the Ditka treatment (forgetting that Da Coach was eventually forced out) for 2005.
I was watching the game today because there was nothing else on. I have to side with Ozzie and the rest of these jerkoffs when it comes to Joe West. Everyone knows the guy is a world class piece of shit. He showed why today by throwing Buerhle out of the game after two questionable balk calls in the first 3 innings. Ozzie basically called him exactly what he is and he's going to get a massive fine, I'm sure. Buerhle might get one, too.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0527-white-sox-indians-chicago20100526,0,5651857.story
Quote"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said of West.
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2010, 08:18:12 PM
I was watching the game today because there was nothing else on. I have to side with Ozzie and the rest of these jerkoffs when it comes to Joe West. Everyone knows the guy is a world class piece of shit. He showed why today by throwing Buerhle out of the game after two questionable balk calls in the first 3 innings. Ozzie basically called him exactly what he is and he's going to get a massive fine, I'm sure. Buerhle might get one, too.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0527-white-sox-indians-chicago20100526,0,5651857.story
Quote"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said of West.
Ozzie's been watching his Treme.
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:53:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2010, 08:18:12 PM
I was watching the game today because there was nothing else on. I have to side with Ozzie and the rest of these jerkoffs when it comes to Joe West. Everyone knows the guy is a world class piece of shit. He showed why today by throwing Buerhle out of the game after two questionable balk calls in the first 3 innings. Ozzie basically called him exactly what he is and he's going to get a massive fine, I'm sure. Buerhle might get one, too.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0527-white-sox-indians-chicago20100526,0,5651857.story
Quote"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said of West.
Ozzie's been watching his Treme.
Or he was tight with the late DePaul professor Ashley Morris, upon whom that Treme character is based...
And yes, Ozzie is right, fuck Joe West.
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 24, 2010, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2010, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 23, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing (http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing)
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The Griffey White Sox jersey proves this guy's life is full of poor decisions.
- The guy in the Griffey jersey landed some really good punches on Hurley.
- Nice security response.
- The vendor's reaction was awesome when he sneaked away.
No fucking kidding'd.
You know, say what you will about fans at Wrigley. I've seen plenty of drunken idiot fights in 30 years of attending home games there. But I can't recall a situation where that many people were throwing haymakers at one another (without regard to bystanders), with nary a security guard or cop showing up for a full two-plus minutes.
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on May 26, 2010, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 24, 2010, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2010, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 23, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing (http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing)
Quote
The Griffey White Sox jersey proves this guy's life is full of poor decisions.
- The guy in the Griffey jersey landed some really good punches on Hurley.
- Nice security response.
- The vendor's reaction was awesome when he sneaked away.
No fucking kidding'd.
You know, say what you will about fans at Wrigley. I've seen plenty of drunken idiot fights in 30 years of attending home games there. But I can't recall a situation where that many people were throwing haymakers at one another (without regard to bystanders), with nary a security guard or cop showing up for a full two-plus minutes.
It's this goddamn American drinking culture.
I blame the Krauts and Bohunks.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on May 26, 2010, 11:09:24 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on May 26, 2010, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 24, 2010, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2010, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 23, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing (http://deadspin.com/5545252/basebrawl-season-is-in-full-swing)
Quote
The Griffey White Sox jersey proves this guy's life is full of poor decisions.
- The guy in the Griffey jersey landed some really good punches on Hurley.
- Nice security response.
- The vendor's reaction was awesome when he sneaked away.
No fucking kidding'd.
You know, say what you will about fans at Wrigley. I've seen plenty of drunken idiot fights in 30 years of attending home games there. But I can't recall a situation where that many people were throwing haymakers at one another (without regard to bystanders), with nary a security guard or cop showing up for a full two-plus minutes.
It's this goddamn American drinking culture.
I blame the Krauts and Bohunks.
I'm already dueling CT; I'd be happy to put you on the list next, partner.
Joe vs. Ozzie. Not even close. I despise Joe. I hate his face. I hate his smirk. I hate his attitude. I can't think of anything about him that I don't hate.
Quote from: CBStew on May 27, 2010, 11:18:26 PM
Joe vs. Ozzie. Not even close. I despise Joe. I hate his face. I hate his smirk. I hate his attitude. I can't think of anything about him that I don't hate.
THI.
I don't hate his neck though. He carries two weeks worth of Gentleman Jack in there like camel's hump. When he get's stressed he just grabs hold of it and tilts it upward. Boom.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 28, 2010, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: CBStew on May 27, 2010, 11:18:26 PM
Joe vs. Ozzie. Not even close. I despise Joe. I hate his face. I hate his smirk. I hate his attitude. I can't think of anything about him that I don't hate.
THI.
I don't hate his neck though. He carries two weeks worth of Gentleman Jack in there like camel's hump. When he get's stressed he just grabs hold of it and tilts it upward. Boom.
I had always figured Joe as more of an Evan Williams sort of man, but hey, to-may-to, to-mah-to...
Guillen and Williams fight over nepotism? Awesome (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/2380948,CST-SPT-sox11.article).
QuoteAfter the White Sox' 3-0 victory over the Detroit Tigers, the Sun-Times was told by a team source that general manager Ken Williams and manager Ozzie Guillen ''almost came to blows in a heated shouting match'' on Tuesday evening because of the draft fallout of Guillen's youngest son, Ozney.
QuoteOne source indicated that Williams was instructed by Reinsdorf not to travel on road trips -- which he hasn't -- to avoid any confrontation with Guillen. But a confrontation couldn't be avoided Tuesday. Guillen watched Ozney slip to the 22nd round in the draft before the Sox selected him. Guillen then commented, ''I give my kid 50 grand just to go to school [at the University of South Florida rather than sign with the Sox]. I got 50 grand in my pocket to send my kid to go to Niketown or buy something.''
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 10:17:19 AM
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Somewhere near the campus of The Ohio State Univeristy, BananaHands is trying to come up with something clever to offer about the Cubs' dalliance with Ole' Dead Arm Jake 2 years ago.
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 10:17:19 AM
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Lawrence Holmes went apeshit on the radio last night going on about how Peavy's situation is the opposite of the way Cutler's was portrayed, where Peavy tried to push through it and hurt his team in the process. Thanks go to Holmes for sticking up for Jay and pointing out that Peavy is a selfish meathead
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 10:17:19 AM
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Lawrence Holmes went apeshit on the radio last night going on about how Peavy's situation is the opposite of the way Cutler's was portrayed, where Peavy tried to push through it and hurt his team in the process. Thanks go to Holmes for sticking up for Jay and pointing out that Peavy is a selfish meathead
I'm amazed you could understand Lawrence Holmes
(http://www.brickcityboxing.com/media/200px-Larry_holmes_01.jpg)
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 10:17:19 AM
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Lawrence Holmes went apeshit on the radio last night going on about how Peavy's situation is the opposite of the way Cutler's was portrayed, where Peavy tried to push through it and hurt his team in the process. Thanks go to Holmes for sticking up for Jay and pointing out that Peavy is a selfish meathead
I just think it's funny that they've got their own Mark Prior now. Enjoy it, Sox fans.
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 10:17:19 AM
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Lawrence Holmes went apeshit on the radio last night going on about how Peavy's situation is the opposite of the way Cutler's was portrayed, where Peavy tried to push through it and hurt his team in the process. Thanks go to Holmes for sticking up for Jay and pointing out that Peavy is a selfish meathead
I just think it's funny that they've got their own Mark Prior now. Enjoy it, Sox fans.
Peavy watch; He played catch today!
Wait until they activate him Aug. 1 with the Sox 8 games behind Minnesota, and then the laugh will be on us. It will be like the Sox acquired someone at the deadline!
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 10:17:19 AM
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Lawrence Holmes went apeshit on the radio last night going on about how Peavy's situation is the opposite of the way Cutler's was portrayed, where Peavy tried to push through it and hurt his team in the process. Thanks go to Holmes for sticking up for Jay and pointing out that Peavy is a selfish meathead
I just think it's funny that they've got their own Mark Prior now. Enjoy it, Sox fans.
Can't we just call him "Jake Prior" from now on?
Quote from: morpheus on March 22, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 10:17:19 AM
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Lawrence Holmes went apeshit on the radio last night going on about how Peavy's situation is the opposite of the way Cutler's was portrayed, where Peavy tried to push through it and hurt his team in the process. Thanks go to Holmes for sticking up for Jay and pointing out that Peavy is a selfish meathead
I just think it's funny that they've got their own Mark Prior now. Enjoy it, Sox fans.
Can't we just call him "Jake Prior" from now on?
Pretty creative nickname there.
Quote from: BH on March 22, 2011, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: morpheus on March 22, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 10:17:19 AM
This'll do. How about that Jake Peavy? He's looking good.
Lawrence Holmes went apeshit on the radio last night going on about how Peavy's situation is the opposite of the way Cutler's was portrayed, where Peavy tried to push through it and hurt his team in the process. Thanks go to Holmes for sticking up for Jay and pointing out that Peavy is a selfish meathead
I just think it's funny that they've got their own Mark Prior now. Enjoy it, Sox fans.
Can't we just call him "Jake Prior" from now on?
Pretty creative nickname there.
Agreed.
It is decided then. Until we get our painful comeuppance from the ye gods, Jake Prior it shall be.
JaKebanzo Prior Beanziano.
Quote from: Bort on March 22, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
JaKebanzo Prior Beanziano.
Dave Wannstedt's Relative Thierry of Played Out?
Quote from: PANK! on March 22, 2011, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 22, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
JaKebanzo Prior Beanziano.
Dave Wannstedt's Relative Thierry of Played Out?
Intrepid Reader Bort: "PIPE DOWN, SEAMUS."
Mark Peavy.
Quote from: BH on March 22, 2011, 03:40:27 PM
Mark Peavy.
Jake Prior's better. Sorry.
Awesome eulogy, though.
Jark Privey
Prior and Peavy comparison isn't fair.
The Cubs got more than 10 wins out of Mark Prior.
And didn't give up players to get him, including a #2 starter.
And didn't pay him $52 million.
Schadenfreude is fung.
Jip Probreys
Janny Peackson
Jark Prioeavyr
Little Cheyenne
Jesper Parnevik.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 23, 2011, 09:21:15 AM
Jesper Parnevik.
[gilstory]I saw Jesper Parnevik tee off at the Heritage Classic about 7-8 years ago. He was a whisper of a man. You could easily fit 17 of him in a common Yeti.[/gilstory]
Quote from: Bort on March 23, 2011, 09:53:38 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 23, 2011, 09:21:15 AM
Jesper Parnevik.
[gilstory]I saw Jesper Parnevik tee off at the Heritage Classic about 7-8 years ago. He was a whisper of a man. You could easily fit 17 of him in a common Yeti.[/gilstory]
Needs more air conditioning added.
Adam D'uhnn has K'd 22 times in 53 Cactus PAs. But it's only Spring Training. I'm sure he'll be fine.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
Adam D'uhnn has K'd 22 times in 53 Cactus PAs. But it's only Spring Training. I'm sure he'll be fine.
Carlos Pena has K'd 14 times in 42 Cactus PAs. But it's only Spring Training. I'm sure he'll be fine.
The rest of his stats aren't so bad though.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
Adam D'uhnn has K'd 22 times in 53 Cactus PAs.
Good news for the National League?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 23, 2011, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
Adam D'uhnn has K'd 22 times in 53 Cactus PAs.
Good news for the National League?
Good news for BC's All-NL Fantasy team.
Quote from: Brownie on March 23, 2011, 10:53:41 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 23, 2011, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
Adam D'uhnn has K'd 22 times in 53 Cactus PAs.
Good news for the National League?
Good news for BC's All-NL Fantasy team.
Not if his Cactus League stats count. I'm not quite sure how his league works.
Jake Weebsy
Quote from: PenPho on March 23, 2011, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
Adam D'uhnn has K'd 22 times in 53 Cactus PAs. But it's only Spring Training. I'm sure he'll be fine.
Carlos Pena has K'd 14 times in 42 Cactus PAs. But it's only Spring Training. I'm sure he'll be fine.
The rest of his stats aren't so bad though.
I hope he can turn some of those k's into hard ground balls directly at an infielder.
Wellington Biggio.
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
I bet it's still better than Connie's though. Fuck Connie's and fuck Tommy Lasorda.
Quote from: CT III on March 28, 2011, 09:24:45 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
I bet it's still better than Connie's though. Fuck Connie's and fuck Tommy Lasorda.
I had to scarf down a slice of Connie's at the UC last week. It tasted like ballpark food, which is to say, gross.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 28, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Sox fans shop and watch their team's home games start at 7 11.
Quote from: Brownie on March 28, 2011, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 28, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Sox fans shop and watch their team's home games start at 7 11.
I actually don't know if we Have 7-11s out here. I was just going with the most recognizable convenience store name.
Does the pizza change, or just the boxes. Am looking forward to the tamales and local brews for my annual trip to see fireworks on the south side though.
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:55:46 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 28, 2011, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 28, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Sox fans shop and watch their team's home games start at 7 11.
I actually don't know if we Have 7-11s out here. I was just going with the most recognizable convenience store name.
Not "Kum N' Go?"
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 28, 2011, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:55:46 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 28, 2011, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 28, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Sox fans shop and watch their team's home games start at 7 11.
I actually don't know if we Have 7-11s out here. I was just going with the most recognizable convenience store name.
Not "Kum N' Go?"
Pump 'n' Munch?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 28, 2011, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 28, 2011, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:55:46 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 28, 2011, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 28, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Sox fans shop and watch their team's home games start at 7 11.
I actually don't know if we Have 7-11s out here. I was just going with the most recognizable convenience store name.
Not "Kum N' Go?"
Pump 'n' Munch?
"Eat 'n Run?" "Screw and Bolt?"
Quote from: CBStew on March 28, 2011, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 28, 2011, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 28, 2011, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:55:46 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 28, 2011, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 28, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Sox fans shop and watch their team's home games start at 7 11.
I actually don't know if we Have 7-11s out here. I was just going with the most recognizable convenience store name.
Not "Kum N' Go?"
Pump 'n' Munch?
"Eat 'n Run?" "Screw and Bolt?"
"Slowjack Ballrub?"
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2011, 03:37:40 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 28, 2011, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 28, 2011, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 28, 2011, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:55:46 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 28, 2011, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 28, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Sox fans shop and watch their team's home games start at 7 11.
I actually don't know if we Have 7-11s out here. I was just going with the most recognizable convenience store name.
Not "Kum N' Go?"
Pump 'n' Munch?
"Eat 'n Run?" "Screw and Bolt?"
"Slowjack Ballrub?"
Sparky's One Stop?
(http://sparkysonestop.com/images/logo.jpg)
You could (still can, I suppose) take a Sparky's branded Bic lighter and scratch off some of the letters and make it read "Spark one up."
(http://shoppingsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Kum-n-GO.jpg)
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13690421
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2011, 07:46:10 AM
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13690421
That's beautiful.
Bump
Bump.
Thud.
Crash.
Haven't seen Cowley mention Sox Town recently. Wonder why...
Hi.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 28, 2011, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:55:46 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 28, 2011, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 28, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 28, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
US Cellular is the place to be for authentic Chicago pizza lovers (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/ct-biz-0328-vienna-beef-20110328,0,1231283.story).
QuoteAnother major change for fans root, root, rooting for the Cubbies will be the pizza. D'Agostino's Pizza, which opened its first location in 1968 down the street from Wrigley, replaces Connie's Pizza as the brand served at the park.
A similar move will happen at the White Sox home, U.S. Cellular Field, where Nestle's DiGiorno pizza swaps in for Connie's. A request for comment from Connie's was not returned.
Wow. Must be awesome to buy a slice of DiGiorno at the ballpark for the same price as two or three whole ones at your local 7/11.
You grocery shop at 7-11?
Sox fans shop and watch their team's home games start at 7 11.
I actually don't know if we Have 7-11s out here. I was just going with the most recognizable convenience store name.
Not "Kum N' Go?"
Eat Here, Get Gas
A lot of times we simply believe in things without really examining them. For example. we think bacon is bad for you. We just know. We don't really read the nutrition labels on bacon. It's just not that healthy.
Another such thing is Juan Pierre. We have been making fun of him ever since Hendry made the awful trade to bring him here and he tickled the ivory for an entire craptacular season. We watched him so we know he sucks. He went to LA. He sucked there. He went to the Sox and sucked there. But something was different. Last year, if you just went by word of Sox fans and slackjawed beat writers, Pierre wasn't that bad. He was actually kind of good. Got on base enough. Stole a bunch of bases. He was a good guy for them to have.
So when I see that he's been playing so horrible this year (trying to break records in outfield errors and caught stealings) I assume that it's because he was so decent-to-good last year that he's been given this seemingly endless leash. But he wasn't decent last year at all. His OPS+ was 78. So far, this year it's 66. His WAR is -0.5.
Maybe it wouldn't be that big of a deal if he wasn't making seven million bucks.
I'm just amazed. The Sox could call up anyone from the minors and he would help their team out more than Pierre.
Quote from: Slaky on May 04, 2011, 02:02:31 PM
A lot of times we simply believe in things without really examining them. For example. we think bacon is bad for you. We just know. We don't really read the nutrition labels on bacon. It's just not that healthy.
Another such thing is Juan Pierre. We have been making fun of him ever since Hendry made the awful trade to bring him here and he tickled the ivory for an entire craptacular season. We watched him so we know he sucks. He went to LA. He sucked there. He went to the Sox and sucked there. But something was different. Last year, if you just went by word of Sox fans and slackjawed beat writers, Pierre wasn't that bad. He was actually kind of good. Got on base enough. Stole a bunch of bases. He was a good guy for them to have.
So when I see that he's been playing so horrible this year (trying to break records in outfield errors and caught stealings) I assume that it's because he was so decent-to-good last year that he's been given this seemingly endless leash. But he wasn't decent last year at all. His OPS+ was 78. So far, this year it's 66. His WAR is -0.5.
Maybe it wouldn't be that big of a deal if he wasn't making seven million bucks.
I'm just amazed. The Sox could call up anyone from the minors and he would help their team out more than Pierre.
I still think he's a good guy for them to have.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 04, 2011, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 04, 2011, 02:02:31 PM
A lot of times we simply believe in things without really examining them. For example. we think bacon is bad for you. We just know. We don't really read the nutrition labels on bacon. It's just not that healthy.
Another such thing is Juan Pierre. We have been making fun of him ever since Hendry made the awful trade to bring him here and he tickled the ivory for an entire craptacular season. We watched him so we know he sucks. He went to LA. He sucked there. He went to the Sox and sucked there. But something was different. Last year, if you just went by word of Sox fans and slackjawed beat writers, Pierre wasn't that bad. He was actually kind of good. Got on base enough. Stole a bunch of bases. He was a good guy for them to have.
So when I see that he's been playing so horrible this year (trying to break records in outfield errors and caught stealings) I assume that it's because he was so decent-to-good last year that he's been given this seemingly endless leash. But he wasn't decent last year at all. His OPS+ was 78. So far, this year it's 66. His WAR is -0.5.
Maybe it wouldn't be that big of a deal if he wasn't making seven million bucks.
I'm just amazed. The Sox could call up anyone from the minors and he would help their team out more than Pierre.
I still think he's a good guy for them to have.
Slak neglects to take into account Juan's grindiness.
Guillen was still steamed about Saturday's 14-inning defeat to the Blue Jays and fired back at his critics before Sunday's series finale, defending himself and his coaching staff against those calling for their jobs.
Dignity. Always dignity.
AP - May 28, 6:38 pm EDT
"The manager said no one in the White Sox locker room has more passion for the game than he does and that he'd be "lying to myself" if he tried not to care so much about wins and losses.
He also decried Chicago fans' short memories, saying that "when they're drunk" they urinate on the display outside U.S. Cellular Field that honors the 2005 World Series champions"
Housing is expensive on the south side (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2011/06/05/if_you_want_passion_start_with_this_roster/).
Quote7. Jeff Cox, third base coach, White Sox — The game is his life. Never married and still living at home with his mother, he is one of the more upbeat people you'll ever see. He walks through the clubhouse saying, "Push, push, gotta push,'' to the players, meaning that he believes in an aggressive style of play. Considered a baseball savant.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 05, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
Housing is expensive on the south side (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2011/06/05/if_you_want_passion_start_with_this_roster/).
Quote7. Jeff Cox, third base coach, White Sox — The game is his life. Never married and still living at home with his mother, he is one of the more upbeat people you'll ever see. He walks through the clubhouse saying, "Push, push, gotta push,'' to the players, meaning that he believes in an aggressive style of play. Considered a baseball savant.
Jesus, if that article got any more meatball, it would jump off of RV's screen and slap him for eating catsup on a hot dog.
Quote from: Bort on June 05, 2011, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 05, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
Housing is expensive on the south side (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2011/06/05/if_you_want_passion_start_with_this_roster/).
Quote7. Jeff Cox, third base coach, White Sox — The game is his life. Never married and still living at home with his mother, he is one of the more upbeat people you'll ever see. He walks through the clubhouse saying, "Push, push, gotta push,'' to the players, meaning that he believes in an aggressive style of play. Considered a baseball savant.
Jesus, if that article got any more meatball, it would jump off of RV's screen and slap him for eating catsup on a hot dog.
I can make lists of random things. Can I be a sportswriter?
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
Quote from: Bort on June 05, 2011, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 05, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
Housing is expensive on the south side (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2011/06/05/if_you_want_passion_start_with_this_roster/).
Quote7. Jeff Cox, third base coach, White Sox — The game is his life. Never married and still living at home with his mother, he is one of the more upbeat people you'll ever see. He walks through the clubhouse saying, "Push, push, gotta push,'' to the players, meaning that he believes in an aggressive style of play. Considered a baseball savant.
Jesus, if that article got any more meatball, it would jump off of RV's screen and slap him for eating catsup on a hot dog.
I can make lists of random things. Can I be a sportswriter?
I thought that was a goof article until I got to Page 2. If Andy or Kerm had blogs, they could do a lot better than this.
Jake Peavy hurt his groin. Are there towel groin drills?
Quote from: BH on June 06, 2011, 08:21:11 AM
Jake Peavy hurt his groin. Are there towel groin drills?
(||)
Hawk and Stoney getting all butthurt about that play Guillen was ejected for was enjoyable. Home plate is in fair ground and the ball was still on it when Geo alertly picked it up. They have to be the worst broadcast team in baseball, which is saying something. Every call that goes against them, despite irrefutable video evidence, is the greatest injustice known to man. Thank God they're not the Cubs announcers.
I've watched it several times and it doesn't appear to fully reach the foul dirt. Then again I'm watching on a phone so feel free if you have a better look. Either way, they both still suck. It's a science fact.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2011, 01:21:08 AM
Hawk and Stoney getting all butthurt about that play Guillen was ejected for was enjoyable. Home plate is in fair ground and the ball was still on it when Geo alertly picked it up. They have to be the worst broadcast team in baseball, which is saying something. Every call that goes against them, despite irrefutable video evidence, is the greatest injustice known to man. Thank God they're not the Cubs announcers.
I've watched it several times and it doesn't appear to fully reach the foul dirt. Then again I'm watching on a phone so feel free if you have a better look. Either way, they both still suck. It's a science fact.
The Coors Light FREEZE CAM confirmed what we already knew. Hawk and Stone Pony are turd casserole.
EDIT: Coors Light is eagle piss. I'd rather go on the wagon for life than take a single swig of that poison.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 21, 2011, 07:30:45 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2011, 01:21:08 AM
Hawk and Stoney getting all butthurt about that play Guillen was ejected for was enjoyable. Home plate is in fair ground and the ball was still on it when Geo alertly picked it up. They have to be the worst broadcast team in baseball, which is saying something. Every call that goes against them, despite irrefutable video evidence, is the greatest injustice known to man. Thank God they're not the Cubs announcers.
I've watched it several times and it doesn't appear to fully reach the foul dirt. Then again I'm watching on a phone so feel free if you have a better look. Either way, they both still suck. It's a science fact.
The Coors Light FREEZE CAM confirmed what we already knew. Hawk and Stone Pony are turd casserole.
EDIT: Coors Light is eagle piss. I'd rather go on the wagon for life than take a single swig of that poison.
It's not as yummy as Bud Light, that's for sure
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on June 21, 2011, 07:42:10 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 21, 2011, 07:30:45 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2011, 01:21:08 AM
Hawk and Stoney getting all butthurt about that play Guillen was ejected for was enjoyable. Home plate is in fair ground and the ball was still on it when Geo alertly picked it up. They have to be the worst broadcast team in baseball, which is saying something. Every call that goes against them, despite irrefutable video evidence, is the greatest injustice known to man. Thank God they're not the Cubs announcers.
I've watched it several times and it doesn't appear to fully reach the foul dirt. Then again I'm watching on a phone so feel free if you have a better look. Either way, they both still suck. It's a science fact.
The Coors Light FREEZE CAM confirmed what we already knew. Hawk and Stone Pony are turd casserole.
EDIT: Coors Light is eagle piss. I'd rather go on the wagon for life than take a single swig of that poison.
It's not as yummy as Bud Light, that's for sure
Nosir. It is not.
The following sentence comes from the Official Cubs site talking about today's game'
"That same feel will be in the air on Tuesday when the two managers go head-to-head again for the BP Crosstown Cup."
Help me out. Is there really something called the "BP Crosstown Cup"? Or is it some kind of protective device that the losing manager has to wear on his head?
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2011, 05:15:52 PM
The following sentence comes from the Official Cubs site talking about today's game'
"That same feel will be in the air on Tuesday when the two managers go head-to-head again for the BP Crosstown Cup."
Help me out. Is there really something called the "BP Crosstown Cup"? Or is it some kind of protective device that the losing manager has to wear on his head?
It's one of these two.
(http://i.somethingawful.com/u/lowtax/cliffy/09_12_10/276_02.jpg)
(http://dubsism.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/cubs-white-sox-bp-cup.jpg?w=399&h=247)
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2011, 07:12:45 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2011, 05:15:52 PM
The following sentence comes from the Official Cubs site talking about today's game'
"That same feel will be in the air on Tuesday when the two managers go head-to-head again for the BP Crosstown Cup."
Help me out. Is there really something called the "BP Crosstown Cup"? Or is it some kind of protective device that the losing manager has to wear on his head?
It's one of these two.
(http://i.somethingawful.com/u/lowtax/cliffy/09_12_10/276_02.jpg)
(http://dubsism.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/cubs-white-sox-bp-cup.jpg?w=399&h=247)
Since when do managers go head-to-head? I've love to see Quade try to strike Guillen out, and Guillen try to cause a stroke simply by shouting the likes of his tweets into Quade's ears.
Actually I wouldn't love to see the second one. Unless Quade got pissed and burned Guillen's eyelashes off too.
DPD
UR DOING IT WRONG
(http://i54.tinypic.com/25yxfkm.png)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/y039g.png)
Step aside, New York and Boston. Chicago's teams can play your little game of one-upsmanship. Cubs sign Dave Bush, but Ken Williams is all I DON'T THINK SO and boldly, decisively signs Doug Davis. Shit just got real.
Let the KW vs Ozzie finger pointing begin (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/7354760-574/white-sox-ozzie-guillen-sounds-off-on-season-williams-marlins.html). Ozzie is a moran, but KW is worse.
Getting shelled 18-0 on national television qualifies for a bump.
EDIT Here comes the comeback.
Bump. (http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7023269/chicago-white-sox-grant-ozzie-guillen-request-released)
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2011, 01:39:33 AM
Bump. (http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7023269/chicago-white-sox-grant-ozzie-guillen-request-released)
The Florida Marlins welcome their new starting pitcher... Carlos Zambrano!
Quote from: flannj on September 27, 2011, 07:16:20 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2011, 01:39:33 AM
Bump. (http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7023269/chicago-white-sox-grant-ozzie-guillen-request-released)
The Florida Miami Marlins welcome their new starting pitcher... Carlos Zambrano!
New empty stadium'd.
Quote from: Brownie on September 27, 2011, 08:17:54 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 27, 2011, 07:16:20 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2011, 01:39:33 AM
Bump. (http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7023269/chicago-white-sox-grant-ozzie-guillen-request-released)
The Florida Miami Marlins welcome their new starting pitcher... Carlos Zambrano!
New empty stadium'd.
I'm really looking forward to the prospect of a Cross Town Classic between the Ryne Sandberg-led Cubs and the Davey Martinez-managed White Sox.
Winner gets the BP Cup AND Cindy Sandberg.
Quote from: CT III on September 27, 2011, 08:23:43 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 27, 2011, 08:17:54 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 27, 2011, 07:16:20 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2011, 01:39:33 AM
Bump. (http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7023269/chicago-white-sox-grant-ozzie-guillen-request-released)
The Florida Miami Marlins welcome their new starting pitcher... Carlos Zambrano!
New empty stadium'd.
I'm really looking forward to the prospect of a Cross Town Classic between the Ryne Sandberg-led Cubs and the Davey Martinez-managed White Sox.
Winner gets the BP Cup AND Cindy Sandberg.
This post is vintage Desipio awesome. I'm going to sniff it before I taste it. (||)
The sun's always brightest inside the booth when it's cloudy and rained recently.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2dtzo89.png)
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
The sun's always brightest inside the booth when it's cloudy and rained recently.
Stoney said the visibility would be bright.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
The sun's always brightest inside the booth when it's cloudy and rained recently.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2dtzo89.png)
A constant routine of free meals and drinks at Gene & Georgetti will do that.
Robin Ventura is the new White Sox manager.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 06, 2011, 03:49:56 PM
Robin Ventura is the new White Sox manager.
(http://dontbelievethehypeonline.com/images/products//images/products/large_114_Nolan_Ryan_vs._Robin_Ventura.jpg)
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 06, 2011, 03:51:59 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 06, 2011, 03:49:56 PM
Robin Ventura is the new White Sox manager.
(http://dontbelievethehypeonline.com/images/products//images/products/large_114_Nolan_Ryan_vs._Robin_Ventura.jpg)
The Sox open against the Rangers.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-12/sports/chi-pierzynski-on-clubhouse-drinking-sometimes-you-need-a-rally-beer-20111012_1_pierzynski-beer-chicago-white-sox-catcher
Making PAULIE the player-manager was too awesome to come true.
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 09:39:57 AM
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-12/sports/chi-pierzynski-on-clubhouse-drinking-sometimes-you-need-a-rally-beer-20111012_1_pierzynski-beer-chicago-white-sox-catcher
Wow, baseball players drink in the clubhouse. Who knew?
I'm wondering if anybody besides possibly Andy Dolan and TJ Brown will get this reference when I say Sox hire "dumbass" for bench coach. (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-10/sports/chi-sox-granted-permission-from-philadelphia-to-talk-to-mark-parent-about-bench-coach-job-20111010_1_triple-a-lehigh-valley-bench-coach-double-a-reading)
QuoteThe Chicago White Sox received permission from Philadelphia to talk to Double-A Reading manager Mark Parent about their vacant bench coach position, a Phillies source confirmed Monday morning.
This could also fit in the Fuck It's Silent In Here thread. It should make you very, very mad (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-sox-bacardi-20111027,0,1482170,full.story).
QuoteBacardi at the Park was not brought to the north side of 35th Street by a generous corporate sponsor or the team's marketing department.
Taxpayers covered the tab.
The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority, the government agency that built and owns The Cell, paid $3.2 million for construction of the restaurant plus just about everything inside the place, from walk-in refrigerators to bar stools.
...
A 2010 agreement between the Sox, who selected Gibsons Restaurant Group to run the business, and the agency shows that at the project's completion, the team was exempt from owing the agency any money. That arrangement contrasts with the management agreement for operating the stadium, which stipulates the team pay rent and make payments based on attendance.
The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority agreed with White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf that the agency should not share in any restaurant profits.
"We said to Jerry, 'Jerry can we have part of the profits?' and he said no," former Gov. Jim Thompson, who was the agency's board chairman when the deal was made, said in an interview. "We said, OK.'
"I've known Jerry for 52 years. He's tough. He's tough."
Tough negotiator? How touch could that have been?
Big Jim: Jerry, we want to build a restaurant next to Comiskey, uh... U.S. Cellular. It's going to cost $6.9 million and you don't have to pay a thing. We can't build it unless you agree to it as you have that right in your lease. Can we build it?
Jerry: Sure.
Big Jim: How much will you put up to cover the costs?
Jerry: Nothing.
Big Jim: Well, can ISFA keep some of the revenue?
Jerry: No.
Big Jim: You know, we don't have to build this and you'd get nothing if we don't build.
Jerry: I know.
Big Jim: Wow! You are a tough negotiator! I guess we have no choice but to do the deal. OK!
===========
Nice kickback at taxpayer expense to your friend of 52 years.
Fuck Jim Thompson.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 27, 2011, 08:22:30 AM
This could also fit in the Fuck It's Silent In Here thread. It should make you very, very mad (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-sox-bacardi-20111027,0,1482170,full.story).
QuoteBacardi at the Park was not brought to the north side of 35th Street by a generous corporate sponsor or the team's marketing department.
Taxpayers covered the tab.
The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority, the government agency that built and owns The Cell, paid $3.2 million for construction of the restaurant plus just about everything inside the place, from walk-in refrigerators to bar stools.
...
A 2010 agreement between the Sox, who selected Gibsons Restaurant Group to run the business, and the agency shows that at the project's completion, the team was exempt from owing the agency any money. That arrangement contrasts with the management agreement for operating the stadium, which stipulates the team pay rent and make payments based on attendance.
The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority agreed with White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf that the agency should not share in any restaurant profits.
"We said to Jerry, 'Jerry can we have part of the profits?' and he said no," former Gov. Jim Thompson, who was the agency's board chairman when the deal was made, said in an interview. "We said, OK.'
"I've known Jerry for 52 years. He's tough. He's tough."
Tough negotiator? How touch could that have been?
Big Jim: Jerry, we want to build a restaurant next to Comiskey, uh... U.S. Cellular. It's going to cost $6.9 million and you don't have to pay a thing. We can't build it unless you agree to it as you have that right in your lease. Can we build it?
Jerry: Sure.
Big Jim: How much will you put up to cover the costs?
Jerry: Nothing.
Big Jim: Well, can ISFA keep some of the revenue?
Jerry: No.
Big Jim: You know, we don't have to build this and you'd get nothing if we don't build.
Jerry: I know.
Big Jim: Wow! You are a tough negotiator! I guess we have no choice but to do the deal. OK!
===========
Nice kickback at taxpayer expense to your friend of 52 years.
Fuck Jim Thompson.
I nearly posted this last night in the Fuck It's Silent Thread, remarking that if the Occupy Chicago Folk wanted to ditch Grant Park and storm the gates at both Comiskular and Winston and $trawn, I'd bring the pitchforks and torches. But I thought it would trivialize the stuff about the vet getting beat up in Oakland.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 27, 2011, 08:22:30 AM
This could also fit in the Fuck It's Silent In Here thread. It should make you very, very mad (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-sox-bacardi-20111027,0,1482170,full.story).
QuoteBacardi at the Park was not brought to the north side of 35th Street by a generous corporate sponsor or the team's marketing department.
Taxpayers covered the tab.
The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority, the government agency that built and owns The Cell, paid $3.2 million for construction of the restaurant plus just about everything inside the place, from walk-in refrigerators to bar stools.
...
A 2010 agreement between the Sox, who selected Gibsons Restaurant Group to run the business, and the agency shows that at the project's completion, the team was exempt from owing the agency any money. That arrangement contrasts with the management agreement for operating the stadium, which stipulates the team pay rent and make payments based on attendance.
The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority agreed with White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf that the agency should not share in any restaurant profits.
"We said to Jerry, 'Jerry can we have part of the profits?' and he said no," former Gov. Jim Thompson, who was the agency's board chairman when the deal was made, said in an interview. "We said, OK.'
"I've known Jerry for 52 years. He's tough. He's tough."
Tough negotiator? How touch could that have been?
Big Jim: Jerry, we want to build a restaurant next to Comiskey, uh... U.S. Cellular. It's going to cost $6.9 million and you don't have to pay a thing. We can't build it unless you agree to it as you have that right in your lease. Can we build it?
Jerry: Sure.
Big Jim: How much will you put up to cover the costs?
Jerry: Nothing.
Big Jim: Well, can ISFA keep some of the revenue?
Jerry: No.
Big Jim: You know, we don't have to build this and you'd get nothing if we don't build.
Jerry: I know.
Big Jim: Wow! You are a tough negotiator! I guess we have no choice but to do the deal. OK!
===========
Nice kickback at taxpayer expense to your friend of 52 years.
Fuck Jim Thompson.
No wonder the Rickettses want public money for Wrigley and the mythical Triangle Building.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 27, 2011, 08:50:15 AM
No wonder the Rickettses want public money for Wrigley and the mythical Triangle Building.
Stories like this won't help the Cubs get public aid.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 27, 2011, 08:22:30 AM
This could also fit in the Fuck It's Silent In Here thread. It should make you very, very mad (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-sox-bacardi-20111027,0,1482170,full.story).
QuoteBacardi at the Park was not brought to the north side of 35th Street by a generous corporate sponsor or the team's marketing department.
Taxpayers covered the tab.
The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority, the government agency that built and owns The Cell, paid $3.2 million for construction of the restaurant plus just about everything inside the place, from walk-in refrigerators to bar stools.
...
A 2010 agreement between the Sox, who selected Gibsons Restaurant Group to run the business, and the agency shows that at the project's completion, the team was exempt from owing the agency any money. That arrangement contrasts with the management agreement for operating the stadium, which stipulates the team pay rent and make payments based on attendance.
The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority agreed with White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf that the agency should not share in any restaurant profits.
"We said to Jerry, 'Jerry can we have part of the profits?' and he said no," former Gov. Jim Thompson, who was the agency's board chairman when the deal was made, said in an interview. "We said, OK.'
"I've known Jerry for 52 years. He's tough. He's tough."
Tough negotiator? How touch could that have been?
Big Jim: Jerry, we want to build a restaurant next to Comiskey, uh... U.S. Cellular. It's going to cost $6.9 million and you don't have to pay a thing. We can't build it unless you agree to it as you have that right in your lease. Can we build it?
Jerry: Sure.
Big Jim: How much will you put up to cover the costs?
Jerry: Nothing.
Big Jim: Well, can ISFA keep some of the revenue?
Jerry: No.
Big Jim: You know, we don't have to build this and you'd get nothing if we don't build.
Jerry: I know.
Big Jim: Wow! You are a tough negotiator! I guess we have no choice but to do the deal. OK!
===========
Nice kickback at taxpayer expense to your friend of 52 years.
Fuck Jim Thompson.
1000x THIS
I watched the interview on WGN last night and the attitude that Thompson displays is sickening.
Still funny to me that amidst all of the governors and the ex-governors of Illinois that have been convicted in the past 40 years, Thompson--who is not one of them--is probably the biggest crook of all.
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
Still funny to me that amidst all of the governors and the ex-governors of Illinois that have been convicted in the past 40 years, Thompson--who is not one of them--is probably the biggest crook of all.
So is there any chance at all that this leads to trouble for the Sox? PLEASE?
I do love how the Sox lease is structured so that they are actually disincetivised to bring in more fans. They don't pay rent until attendance exceeds 1.9 million fans (per Ed Sherman (http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20111026/NEWS02/111029790/reinsdorfs-sweet-deal-at-u-s-cellular-field-gets-even-sweeter)).
Quote from: Brownie on October 27, 2011, 08:48:22 AM
I nearly posted this last night in the Fuck It's Silent Thread, remarking that if the Occupy Chicago Folk wanted to ditch Grant Park and storm the gates at both Comiskular and Winston and $trawn, I'd bring the pitchforks and torches. But I thought it would trivialize the stuff about the vet getting beat up in Oakland.
Don't worry. TDubbs had that covered.
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
Still funny to me that amidst all of the governors and the ex-governors of Illinois that have been convicted in the past 40 years, Thompson--who is not one of them--is probably the biggest crook of all.
Seriously.
"He said no... We said, OK... He's tough. He's tough."
We've tried nothin' and we're all out of ideas!
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 27, 2011, 08:53:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 27, 2011, 08:50:15 AM
No wonder the Rickettses want public money for Wrigley and the mythical Triangle Building.
Stories like this won't help the Cubs get public aid.
No shit? Thanks Chuck.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 27, 2011, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 27, 2011, 08:53:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 27, 2011, 08:50:15 AM
No wonder the Rickettses want public money for Wrigley and the mythical Triangle Building.
Stories like this won't help the Cubs get public aid.
No shit? Thanks Chuck.
That factoid was as informative as anything Ed Sherman has done in his career, which is to say, not much.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 27, 2011, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 27, 2011, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 27, 2011, 08:53:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 27, 2011, 08:50:15 AM
No wonder the Rickettses want public money for Wrigley and the mythical Triangle Building.
Stories like this won't help the Cubs get public aid.
No shit? Thanks Chuck.
That factoid was as informative as anything Ed Sherman has done in his career, which is to say, not much.
I thought that it had been common knowledge for years that the Sox needed to break an attendance barrier in order to pay up. Did we really need a link to that human prairie dog?
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2011, 10:32:57 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 27, 2011, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 27, 2011, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 27, 2011, 08:53:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 27, 2011, 08:50:15 AM
No wonder the Rickettses want public money for Wrigley and the mythical Triangle Building.
Stories like this won't help the Cubs get public aid.
No shit? Thanks Chuck.
That factoid was as informative as anything Ed Sherman has done in his career, which is to say, not much.
I thought that it had been common knowledge for years that the Sox needed to break an attendance barrier in order to pay up. Did we really need a link to that human prairie dog?
ShermanBot: "If the Bears play better, then more people will buy Bears' stuff. I'm Ed Sherman with Crain's Chicago Business."
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:20:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
Still funny to me that amidst all of the governors and the ex-governors of Illinois that have been convicted in the past 40 years, Thompson--who is not one of them--is probably the biggest crook of all.
Seriously.
"He said no... We said, OK... He's tough. He's tough."
We've tried nothin' and we're all out of ideas!
About as thorough a job as he did on the Hollinger Inc. audit committee.
He used to sit on the board of the CBOT and was utterly worthless.
Quote from: flannj on October 27, 2011, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:20:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
Still funny to me that amidst all of the governors and the ex-governors of Illinois that have been convicted in the past 40 years, Thompson--who is not one of them--is probably the biggest crook of all.
Seriously.
"He said no... We said, OK... He's tough. He's tough."
We've tried nothin' and we're all out of ideas!
About as thorough a job as he did on the Hollinger Inc. audit committee.
He used to sit on the board of the CBOT and was utterly worthless.
C'mon, I bet he bought some nice antiques that really spruced up the place.
Quote from: CT III on October 27, 2011, 11:16:11 AM
Quote from: flannj on October 27, 2011, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:20:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
Still funny to me that amidst all of the governors and the ex-governors of Illinois that have been convicted in the past 40 years, Thompson--who is not one of them--is probably the biggest crook of all.
Seriously.
"He said no... We said, OK... He's tough. He's tough."
We've tried nothin' and we're all out of ideas!
About as thorough a job as he did on the Hollinger Inc. audit committee.
He used to sit on the board of the CBOT and was utterly worthless.
C'mon, I bet he bought some nice antiques that really spruced up the place.
He was also on the 9/11 Commission. COINCIDENCE?!?!?!?
Here's to Prince Fielder launching 100 dongs against the good guys over the next 9 years.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 24, 2012, 02:12:48 PM
Here's to Prince Fielder launching 100 dongs against the good guys over the next 9 years.
(||)/THI
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 24, 2012, 02:12:48 PM
Here's to Prince Fielder launching 100 dongs against the good guys over the next 9 years.
Too bad. The kid had Cubness.
(http://www.bloguin.com/theoutsidecorner/images/stories/youngfielder.jpg)
Quote from: Fork on January 25, 2012, 12:19:45 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 24, 2012, 02:12:48 PM
Here's to Prince Fielder launching 100 dongs against the good guys over the next 9 years.
Too bad. The kid had Cubness.
(http://www.bloguin.com/theoutsidecorner/images/stories/youngfielder.jpg)
The Giant Tiger Cubs. Great team!
Kosuke Fukudome.
A White Sox. (http://www.rotoworld.com/)
Quote from: PenPho on February 14, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
Kosuke Fukudome.
A White Sox. (http://www.rotoworld.com/)
Thanks for the link. (http://ontheinternet)
Also, here:
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/348907/white-sox-sign-outfielder-kosuke-fukudome
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 14, 2012, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: PenPho on February 14, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
Kosuke Fukudome.
A White Sox. (http://www.rotoworld.com/)
Thanks for the link. (http://ontheinternet)
Oh how I laughed at this.
Also, wouldn't it be "White Sock"?
Judges?
Quote from: PANK! on February 14, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 14, 2012, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: PenPho on February 14, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
Kosuke Fukudome.
A White Sox. (http://www.rotoworld.com/)
Thanks for the link. (http://ontheinternet)
Oh how I laughed at this.
Also, wouldn't it be "White Sock"?
Judges?
I've always thought so, but no one from the team or the surrounding media uses the term.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 14, 2012, 07:24:09 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 14, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 14, 2012, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: PenPho on February 14, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
Kosuke Fukudome.
A White Sox. (http://www.rotoworld.com/)
Thanks for the link. (http://ontheinternet)
Oh how I laughed at this.
Also, wouldn't it be "White Sock"?
Judges?
I've always thought so, but no one from the team or the surrounding media uses the term.
Mike Murphy was always adamant that it was "White Sox", so I'm gonna guess that that's wrong.
I'm pretty sure the meatballs are going to boo Kosuke when he returns to Wrigley. I don't want to make more out of it than it is, but if I'm there, I'm going to stand up and clap for him. Not because I love Kosuke or because I want to stick up for Hendry. I just hate meatballs. And Kosuke wasn't that bad, just overpaid.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 15, 2012, 08:26:21 AM
I'm pretty sure the meatballs are going to boo Kosuke when he returns to Wrigley. I don't want to make more out of it than it is, but if I'm there, I'm going to stand up and clap for him. Not because I love Kosuke or because I want to stick up for Hendry. I just hate meatballs. And Kosuke wasn't that bad, just overpaid.
I liked him. Never thought he was used properly. Overpaid for sure but that wasn't his fault.
Quote from: Slaky on February 15, 2012, 08:43:40 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 15, 2012, 08:26:21 AM
I'm pretty sure the meatballs are going to boo Kosuke when he returns to Wrigley. I don't want to make more out of it than it is, but if I'm there, I'm going to stand up and clap for him. Not because I love Kosuke or because I want to stick up for Hendry. I just hate meatballs. And Kosuke wasn't that bad, just overpaid.
I liked him. Never thought he was used properly. Overpaid for sure but that wasn't his fault.
There were always Japanese chicks at Wrigley wearing his jersey. I hope they don't start going to the Cell now. I mean... I'll still be here. Hello.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 15, 2012, 08:26:21 AM
I'm pretty sure the meatballs are going to boo Kosuke when he returns to Wrigley. I don't want to make more out of it than it is, but if I'm there, I'm going to stand up and clap for him. Not because I love Kosuke or because I want to stick up for Hendry. I just hate meatballs. And Kosuke wasn't that bad, just overpaid.
Apex something something Asians
It would take some subtlety, but this is probably infiltratable:
QuoteAre YOU the world's biggest White Sox fan? Do you have a routine when you watch the game on TV...maybe with your kid/spouse/neighbor/friend? Wanna **star** in a WGN-TV commercial? E-mail WGN your story to ChicagoStories9@gmail.com.
Quote from: Wheezer on February 18, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
It would take some subtlety, but this is probably infiltratable:
QuoteAre YOU the world's biggest White Sox fan? Do you have a routine when you watch the game on TV...maybe with your kid/spouse/neighbor/friend? Wanna **star** in a WGN-TV commercial? E-mail WGN your story to ChicagoStories9@gmail.com.
We should get TDubbs and Fork on it right away.
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 20, 2012, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on February 18, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
It would take some subtlety, but this is probably infiltratable:
QuoteAre YOU the world's biggest White Sox fan? Do you have a routine when you watch the game on TV...maybe with your kid/spouse/neighbor/friend? Wanna **star** in a WGN-TV commercial? E-mail WGN your story to ChicagoStories9@gmail.com.
We should get TDubbs and Fork on it right away.
*grabs mullet wig*
Quote from: Fork on February 21, 2012, 07:45:36 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 20, 2012, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on February 18, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
It would take some subtlety, but this is probably infiltratable:
QuoteAre YOU the world's biggest White Sox fan? Do you have a routine when you watch the game on TV...maybe with your kid/spouse/neighbor/friend? Wanna **star** in a WGN-TV commercial? E-mail WGN your story to ChicagoStories9@gmail.com.
We should get TDubbs and Fork on it right away.
*grabs mullet wig*
Grabs gun
[camera starts wide on trailer, closes in on mulleted man wearing sleeveless black Sox shirt, jorts, and work boots]
Hidy, I'm Dale Waylon McAuliffe, and I'm the ultimate Sox fan.
[DAM takes a pull off a bagged bottle, only the High Life band up visible from under the bag]
I've been a Sox fan ever since Mama and Pa took me to my first game, back when that colored Calderon fella was their big star before Frank Thomas came in, and he was colored too, but at least he was a goddamn American from Alabama.
I love the Sox, and the Sox fans too. I would have given a month's pay to the Ligue defense fund, if I was working and had pay to give.
I have a routine I like to follow before every Sox game - I grab some cold ones and put them into my cooler alongside my chair, and set up near the window with my feet up, so the ankle monitor don't hurt too much. Then, I let the breeze blow into the living room, and I can see the game on the TV across the way at the Sack O' Suds, which I'm banned from entering, at least until they get a new owner, which happens about every 6 months or so.
The best day of my life was the day the Sox won the World Series, as I got to actually spend the game with my Pa, as we were both in at the same time, except I was short, and he's doing the BB, and he keeps getting into a fight right before his parole hearing, so he still ain't home.
So anyway, I surely would appreciate you putting me in your television commercial, so my PO gets off my back about a job and such.
Thankie.
[camera pulls out to show NW Indiana trailer park]
Suck it, Fork
Quote from: Fork on February 21, 2012, 09:50:23 AM
[camera starts wide on trailer, closes in on mulleted man wearing sleeveless black Sox shirt, jorts, and work boots]
Hidy, I'm Dale Waylon McAuliffe, and I'm the ultimate Sox fan.
[DAM takes a pull off a bagged bottle, only the High Life band up visible from under the bag]
I've been a Sox fan ever since Mama and Pa took me to my first game, back when that colored Calderon fella was their big star before Frank Thomas came in, and he was colored too, but at least he was a goddamn American from Alabama.
I love the Sox, and the Sox fans too. I would have given a month's pay to the Ligue defense fund, if I was working and had pay to give.
I have a routine I like to follow before every Sox game - I grab some cold ones and put them into my cooler alongside my chair, and set up near the window with my feet up, so the ankle monitor don't hurt too much. Then, I let the breeze blow into the living room, and I can see the game on the TV across the way at the Sack O' Suds, which I'm banned from entering, at least until they get a new owner, which happens about every 6 months or so.
The best day of my life was the day the Sox won the World Series, as I got to actually spend the game with my Pa, as we were both in at the same time, except I was short, and he's doing the BB, and he keeps getting into a fight right before his parole hearing, so he still ain't home.
So anyway, I surely would appreciate you putting me in your television commercial, so my PO gets off my back about a job and such.
Thankie.
[camera pulls out to show NW Indiana trailer park]
Boo.
Quote from: Fork on February 21, 2012, 09:50:23 AM
[camera starts wide on trailer, closes in on mulleted man wearing sleeveless black Sox shirt, jorts, and work boots]
Hidy, I'm Dale Waylon McAuliffe, and I'm the ultimate Sox fan.
[DAM takes a pull off a bagged bottle, only the High Life band up visible from under the bag]
I've been a Sox fan ever since Mama and Pa took me to my first game, back when that colored Calderon fella was their big star before Frank Thomas came in, and he was colored too, but at least he was a goddamn American from Alabama.
I love the Sox, and the Sox fans too. I would have given a month's pay to the Ligue defense fund, if I was working and had pay to give.
I have a routine I like to follow before every Sox game - I grab some cold ones and put them into my cooler alongside my chair, and set up near the window with my feet up, so the ankle monitor don't hurt too much. Then, I let the breeze blow into the living room, and I can see the game on the TV across the way at the Sack O' Suds, which I'm banned from entering, at least until they get a new owner, which happens about every 6 months or so.
The best day of my life was the day the Sox won the World Series, as I got to actually spend the game with my Pa, as we were both in at the same time, except I was short, and he's doing the BB, and he keeps getting into a fight right before his parole hearing, so he still ain't home.
So anyway, I surely would appreciate you putting me in your television commercial, so my PO gets off my back about a job and such.
Thankie.
[camera pulls out to show NW Indiana trailer park]
Ladies and gentledicks. .. .our first nominee for the "Worst, Unfunniest Post of the Year"!
Congrats Fork. I'm sure you'll offer up many more, but the first is always the hardest. TWSS.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 21, 2012, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Fork on February 21, 2012, 09:50:23 AM
[camera starts wide on trailer, closes in on mulleted man wearing sleeveless black Sox shirt, jorts, and work boots]
Hidy, I'm Dale Waylon McAuliffe, and I'm the ultimate Sox fan.
[DAM takes a pull off a bagged bottle, only the High Life band up visible from under the bag]
I've been a Sox fan ever since Mama and Pa took me to my first game, back when that colored Calderon fella was their big star before Frank Thomas came in, and he was colored too, but at least he was a goddamn American from Alabama.
I love the Sox, and the Sox fans too. I would have given a month's pay to the Ligue defense fund, if I was working and had pay to give.
I have a routine I like to follow before every Sox game - I grab some cold ones and put them into my cooler alongside my chair, and set up near the window with my feet up, so the ankle monitor don't hurt too much. Then, I let the breeze blow into the living room, and I can see the game on the TV across the way at the Sack O' Suds, which I'm banned from entering, at least until they get a new owner, which happens about every 6 months or so.
The best day of my life was the day the Sox won the World Series, as I got to actually spend the game with my Pa, as we were both in at the same time, except I was short, and he's doing the BB, and he keeps getting into a fight right before his parole hearing, so he still ain't home.
So anyway, I surely would appreciate you putting me in your television commercial, so my PO gets off my back about a job and such.
Thankie.
[camera pulls out to show NW Indiana trailer park]
Ladies and gentledicks. .. .our first nominee for the "Worst, Unfunniest Post of the Year"!
Congrats Fork. I'm sure you'll offer up many more, but the first is always the hardest. TWSS.
Well, I've got 10 months...
Whatever happened to Indolent Reader?
Quote from: PANK! on February 21, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
Whatever happened to Indolent Reader?
He was killed in a home-birthing accident.
Quote from: CT III on February 21, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 21, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
Whatever happened to Indolent Reader?
He was killed in a home-birthing accident.
I heard he took his own life after he and Mrs. Indolent Reader absentmindedly crushed their infant while bumping uglies.
Quote from: CT III on February 21, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 21, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
Whatever happened to Indolent Reader?
He was killed in a home-birthing accident.
There's no such thing as a home-birthing
accident.
The 1985 Bears and the 1972 Dolphins and the 1955 Dodgers look like they'd just as soon fade into the woodwork next to the 2005 White Sox. (http://chicagosidesports.com/excessive-commemoration-at-us-cellular/)
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:11:55 AM
The 1985 Bears and the 1972 Dolphins and the 1955 Dodgers look like they'd just as soon fade into the woodwork next to the 2005 White Sox. (http://chicagosidesports.com/excessive-commemoration-at-us-cellular/)
Well the appearance of Dickie Simpkins--aka the Shittiest Bull on all 6 Title Teams--at Wrigley Field as a featured 7th inning celebrity last week suggests that the 90's Bulls may yet still run down the '85 Bears as the most irrepressible and gravy trainish. For my part, I expected these guys to go full exposure immediately after Title Number 6 but I guess if you can milk it elsewhere for a while, you can always come back to Chicago. I'm sure when he winds up a little down on his luck, Steve Kerr will call Chicago home for at least a couple years.
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:11:55 AM
The 1985 Bears and the 1972 Dolphins and the 1955 Dodgers look like they'd just as soon fade into the woodwork next to the 2005 White Sox. (http://chicagosidesports.com/excessive-commemoration-at-us-cellular/)
Well the appearance of Dickie Simpkins--aka the Shittiest Bull on all 6 Title Teams--at Wrigley Field as a featured 7th inning celebrity last week suggests that the 90's Bulls may yet still run down the '85 Bears as the most irrepressible and gravy trainish. For my part, I expected these guys to go full exposure immediately after Title Number 6 but I guess if you can milk it elsewhere for a while, you can always come back to Chicago. I'm sure when he winds up a little down on his luck, Steve Kerr will call Chicago home for at least a couple years.
Geoff Blum is immortalized in bronze. Podsednik jerseys are still in ample supply. When the Bears build a monument to Reggie Phillips, or the Bulls immortalize Steve Kerr in bronze, call me.
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Breaking news from my Sox fan "friend" on facebook: the Cubs did not pitch a perfect game today!
I just don't get their obsession with the Cubs.
Quote from: Tony on April 21, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
Breaking news from my Sox fan "friend" on facebook: the Cubs did not pitch a perfect game today!
I just don't get their obsession with the Cubs.
As a Cubs fan neither do I.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 21, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Humber needs an * after his name. No fucking way was that a swinging strike to end the game.
And if that dumbshit runs instead of standing there arguing he probably beats the throw.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 21, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Humber needs an * after his name. No fucking way was that a swinging strike to end the game.
And if that dumbshit runs instead of standing there arguing he probably beats the throw.
That's not Humber's fault. He made some great pitches in the 9th, especially when behind in the count.
Here is an interesting thought: How many perfect games have been day games? Humber, Buerhle, Braden, Cone, Wells, Martinez, Witt... Is it just a day game after a night game effect? Any thoughts?
Quote from: Brownie on April 22, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 21, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Humber needs an * after his name. No fucking way was that a swinging strike to end the game.
And if that dumbshit runs instead of standing there arguing he probably beats the throw.
That's not Humber's fault. He made some great pitches in the 9th, especially when behind in the count.
Here is an interesting thought: How many perfect games have been day games? Humber, Buerhle, Braden, Cone, Wells, Martinez, Witt... Is it just a day game after a night game effect? Any thoughts?
I rewatched the 9th on MLB.tv and not once did Fox show a replay from the first base side so you could tell if Ryan went around or not. Maybe that camera op just missed it. Or maybe Reinsdorf and his puppet Selig told them not to.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 22, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 22, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 21, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Humber needs an * after his name. No fucking way was that a swinging strike to end the game.
And if that dumbshit runs instead of standing there arguing he probably beats the throw.
That's not Humber's fault. He made some great pitches in the 9th, especially when behind in the count.
Here is an interesting thought: How many perfect games have been day games? Humber, Buerhle, Braden, Cone, Wells, Martinez, Witt... Is it just a day game after a night game effect? Any thoughts?
I rewatched the 9th on MLB.tv and not once did Fox show a replay from the first base side so you could tell if Ryan went around or not. Maybe that camera op just missed it. Or maybe Reinsdorf and his puppet Selig told them not to.
I saw the replay from the broadcast booth camera above home plate and from there it looked like the wrists broke the plane, but either way, it feels like a call that an umpire would give a guy on what would be the final pitch of a perfect game.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 22, 2012, 11:39:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 22, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 22, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 21, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Humber needs an * after his name. No fucking way was that a swinging strike to end the game.
And if that dumbshit runs instead of standing there arguing he probably beats the throw.
That's not Humber's fault. He made some great pitches in the 9th, especially when behind in the count.
Here is an interesting thought: How many perfect games have been day games? Humber, Buerhle, Braden, Cone, Wells, Martinez, Witt... Is it just a day game after a night game effect? Any thoughts?
I rewatched the 9th on MLB.tv and not once did Fox show a replay from the first base side so you could tell if Ryan went around or not. Maybe that camera op just missed it. Or maybe Reinsdorf and his puppet Selig told them not to.
I saw the replay from the broadcast booth camera above home plate and from there it looked like the wrists broke the plane, but either way, it feels like a call that an umpire would give a guy on what would be the final pitch of a perfect game.
That, plus, Ryan is a dumbass for swinging at it, so he deserves to be called out anyway.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 23, 2012, 12:18:48 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 22, 2012, 11:39:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 22, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 22, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 21, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Humber needs an * after his name. No fucking way was that a swinging strike to end the game.
And if that dumbshit runs instead of standing there arguing he probably beats the throw.
That's not Humber's fault. He made some great pitches in the 9th, especially when behind in the count.
Here is an interesting thought: How many perfect games have been day games? Humber, Buerhle, Braden, Cone, Wells, Martinez, Witt... Is it just a day game after a night game effect? Any thoughts?
I rewatched the 9th on MLB.tv and not once did Fox show a replay from the first base side so you could tell if Ryan went around or not. Maybe that camera op just missed it. Or maybe Reinsdorf and his puppet Selig told them not to.
I saw the replay from the broadcast booth camera above home plate and from there it looked like the wrists broke the plane, but either way, it feels like a call that an umpire would give a guy on what would be the final pitch of a perfect game.
That, plus, Ryan is a dumbass for swinging at it, so he deserves to be called out anyway.
Here:
(http://i.imgur.com/VYemY.jpg)
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 23, 2012, 12:58:23 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 23, 2012, 12:18:48 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 22, 2012, 11:39:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 22, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 22, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 21, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Humber needs an * after his name. No fucking way was that a swinging strike to end the game.
And if that dumbshit runs instead of standing there arguing he probably beats the throw.
That's not Humber's fault. He made some great pitches in the 9th, especially when behind in the count.
Here is an interesting thought: How many perfect games have been day games? Humber, Buerhle, Braden, Cone, Wells, Martinez, Witt... Is it just a day game after a night game effect? Any thoughts?
I rewatched the 9th on MLB.tv and not once did Fox show a replay from the first base side so you could tell if Ryan went around or not. Maybe that camera op just missed it. Or maybe Reinsdorf and his puppet Selig told them not to.
I saw the replay from the broadcast booth camera above home plate and from there it looked like the wrists broke the plane, but either way, it feels like a call that an umpire would give a guy on what would be the final pitch of a perfect game.
That, plus, Ryan is a dumbass for swinging at it, so he deserves to be called out anyway.
Here:
(http://i.imgur.com/VYemY.jpg)
Yeah, I'm gonna say bitching about the strike zone or whatever just to denigrate his perfect game makes Cub fans look as bad as Tony's Sox Friend. He threw a perfect game. Doesn't make him the first journeyman or mediocre pitcher to do so.
Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2012, 08:10:43 AM
Yeah, I'm gonna say bitching about the strike zone or whatever just to denigrate his perfect game makes Cub fans look as bad as Tony's Sox Friend.
This.
Seen it too many times.
(http://i.imgur.com/5moRc.jpg)
Quote from: morpheus on April 23, 2012, 11:09:41 AM
Seen it too many times.
(http://i.imgur.com/5moRc.jpg)
Dammit, I laughed.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 22, 2012, 11:39:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 22, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 22, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 21, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
Bumped for Milt Pappas' simmering rage.
Humber needs an * after his name. No fucking way was that a swinging strike to end the game.
And if that dumbshit runs instead of standing there arguing he probably beats the throw.
That's not Humber's fault. He made some great pitches in the 9th, especially when behind in the count.
Here is an interesting thought: How many perfect games have been day games? Humber, Buerhle, Braden, Cone, Wells, Martinez, Witt... Is it just a day game after a night game effect? Any thoughts?
I rewatched the 9th on MLB.tv and not once did Fox show a replay from the first base side so you could tell if Ryan went around or not. Maybe that camera op just missed it. Or maybe Reinsdorf and his puppet Selig told them not to.
I saw the replay from the broadcast booth camera above home plate and from there it looked like the wrists broke the plane, but either way, it feels like a call that an umpire would give a guy on what would be the final pitch of a perfect game.
If you look at it from the angle of the umpire calling it a checked swing and then having to deal with death threats from the Ligues of the world it makes perfect sense to me. No way in hell you make that call.
Quote from: PANK! on April 23, 2012, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 23, 2012, 11:09:41 AM
Seen it too many times.
(http://i.imgur.com/5moRc.jpg)
Dammit, I laughed.
Me too.
Nice job, very subtle.
FIRST PLACE SOX
Quote from: Slaky on April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM
FIRST PLACE SOX
Peavy and Dunn are partying like it's 2007. They're not a terrible team to watch, but I'm not convinced they'll win more than 80 games. Of course, if they win 80, they'd be a mere 30 games better than the Cubs which is good enough for most Sox fans. Watch, they'll win the division, and we'll have to put up with the South Side Stench for another couple weeks.
Of teams whose fan bases have an unhealthy obsession with the Cubs, the Brewers are worth watching, especially if Aramis starts hitting again.
Quote from: Brownie on April 24, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM
FIRST PLACE SOX
Peavy and Dunn are partying like it's 2007. They're not a terrible team to watch, but I'm not convinced they'll win more than 80 games. Of course, if they win 80, they'd be a mere 30 games better than the Cubs which is good enough for most Sox fans. Watch, they'll win the division, and we'll have to put up with the South Side Stench for another couple weeks.
Of teams whose fan bases have an unhealthy obsession with the Cubs, the Brewers are worth watching, especially if Aramis starts hitting again.
Despite my disdain for American League baseball, I've watched about 5 or 6 Sox games so far. They're not terrible and that second wild card spot might be where they eventually end up, considering Detroit is pretty much going to cruise to that division championship.
The East has been fascinating to watch this season so far. Baltimore's been not-shitty and Toronto has been entertaining as well.
Plus you have Bobby Valentine's shitstorm in Boston for additional entertainment value.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 24, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 24, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM
FIRST PLACE SOX
Peavy and Dunn are partying like it's 2007. They're not a terrible team to watch, but I'm not convinced they'll win more than 80 games. Of course, if they win 80, they'd be a mere 30 games better than the Cubs which is good enough for most Sox fans. Watch, they'll win the division, and we'll have to put up with the South Side Stench for another couple weeks.
Of teams whose fan bases have an unhealthy obsession with the Cubs, the Brewers are worth watching, especially if Aramis starts hitting again.
Despite my disdain for American League baseball, I've watched about 5 or 6 Sox games so far. They're not terrible and that second wild card spot might be where they eventually end up, considering Detroit is pretty much going to cruise to that division championship.
The East has been fascinating to watch this season so far. Baltimore's been not-shitty and Toronto has been entertaining as well.
Plus you have Bobby Valentine's shitstorm in Boston for additional entertainment value.
If you're watching the local broadcasts, do you turn the sound off?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 24, 2012, 12:28:43 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 24, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 24, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM
FIRST PLACE SOX
Peavy and Dunn are partying like it's 2007. They're not a terrible team to watch, but I'm not convinced they'll win more than 80 games. Of course, if they win 80, they'd be a mere 30 games better than the Cubs which is good enough for most Sox fans. Watch, they'll win the division, and we'll have to put up with the South Side Stench for another couple weeks.
Of teams whose fan bases have an unhealthy obsession with the Cubs, the Brewers are worth watching, especially if Aramis starts hitting again.
Despite my disdain for American League baseball, I've watched about 5 or 6 Sox games so far. They're not terrible and that second wild card spot might be where they eventually end up, considering Detroit is pretty much going to cruise to that division championship.
The East has been fascinating to watch this season so far. Baltimore's been not-shitty and Toronto has been entertaining as well.
Plus you have Bobby Valentine's shitstorm in Boston for additional entertainment value.
If you're watching the local broadcasts, do you turn the sound off?
I haven't watched them on MLB.tv yet, but I'm wondering if Peoria is in the blackout zone for the Sox. If they aren't, I'll just put on the away broadcast.
On CSN, however, I've been watching them with the sound on. However, I'm usually in the kitchen and am only passively listening.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 24, 2012, 12:48:01 PM
However, I'm usually in the kitchen and am only passively listening.
That Chicken Oscar isn't going to make itself.
Quote from: flannj on April 24, 2012, 05:10:40 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 24, 2012, 12:48:01 PM
However, I'm usually in the kitchen and am only passively listening.
That Chicken Oscar isn't going to make itself.
Darn tootin'.
Dave McKay had best watch his back tonight. Sux Nation is out for blood after that floppy haired pussy plunked Paulie yesterday.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 24, 2012, 12:28:43 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 24, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 24, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM
FIRST PLACE SOX
Peavy and Dunn are partying like it's 2007. They're not a terrible team to watch, but I'm not convinced they'll win more than 80 games. Of course, if they win 80, they'd be a mere 30 games better than the Cubs which is good enough for most Sox fans. Watch, they'll win the division, and we'll have to put up with the South Side Stench for another couple weeks.
Of teams whose fan bases have an unhealthy obsession with the Cubs, the Brewers are worth watching, especially if Aramis starts hitting again.
Despite my disdain for American League baseball, I've watched about 5 or 6 Sox games so far. They're not terrible and that second wild card spot might be where they eventually end up, considering Detroit is pretty much going to cruise to that division championship.
The East has been fascinating to watch this season so far. Baltimore's been not-shitty and Toronto has been entertaining as well.
Plus you have Bobby Valentine's shitstorm in Boston for additional entertainment value.
If you're watching the local broadcasts, do you turn the sound off?
I got to see the game yesterday - ESPN America was running it on my cable. For some fucking ridiculous reason, though, they ran the Sox feed so I had to listen to Harrelson and Stone's schtick from start to finish. Three hours of calling the Sox players by their first names, you-can-put-it-on-the-board-yesses, he-gones and seeing absolutely nothing wrong with Beckham bundling DeJesus off second to "tag" him out. You know the bit where Kerry Wood was hugging his boy and Len said "we'll let the crowd take you out", and there wasn't a dry eye in the house? Yeah, Hawk and Stone talked right the fucking way through that, about fuck all of interest. Fuck Hawk Harrelson and fuck Steve Stone. Even if I were a Sox fan (and thank fuck that I'm not) I feel sure I would detest them with every fibre of my being.
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 24, 2012, 12:28:43 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 24, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 24, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM
FIRST PLACE SOX
Peavy and Dunn are partying like it's 2007. They're not a terrible team to watch, but I'm not convinced they'll win more than 80 games. Of course, if they win 80, they'd be a mere 30 games better than the Cubs which is good enough for most Sox fans. Watch, they'll win the division, and we'll have to put up with the South Side Stench for another couple weeks.
Of teams whose fan bases have an unhealthy obsession with the Cubs, the Brewers are worth watching, especially if Aramis starts hitting again.
Despite my disdain for American League baseball, I've watched about 5 or 6 Sox games so far. They're not terrible and that second wild card spot might be where they eventually end up, considering Detroit is pretty much going to cruise to that division championship.
The East has been fascinating to watch this season so far. Baltimore's been not-shitty and Toronto has been entertaining as well.
Plus you have Bobby Valentine's shitstorm in Boston for additional entertainment value.
If you're watching the local broadcasts, do you turn the sound off?
I got to see the game yesterday - ESPN America was running it on my cable. For some fucking ridiculous reason, though, they ran the Sox feed so I had to listen to Harrelson and Stone's schtick from start to finish. Three hours of calling the Sox players by their first names, you-can-put-it-on-the-board-yesses, he-gones and seeing absolutely nothing wrong with Beckham bundling DeJesus off second to "tag" him out. You know the bit where Kerry Wood was hugging his boy and Len said "we'll let the crowd take you out", and there wasn't a dry eye in the house? Yeah, Hawk and Stone talked right the fucking way through that, about fuck all of interest. Fuck Hawk Harrelson and fuck Steve Stone. Even if I were a Sox fan (and thank fuck that I'm not) I feel sure I would detest them with every fibre of my being.
CSN re-aired the game last night. I gather Len and Bob were on WGN yesterday because the CSN rebroadcast was Hawk and Stone.
Guh.
I opted to watch something else and just flip over occasionally to see how close they were to the top of the 8th, but I was able to gather from the bits and pieces I caught that Hawk is not terribly taken with Samardzija
or his "ponytail".
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 24, 2012, 12:28:43 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 24, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 24, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM
FIRST PLACE SOX
Peavy and Dunn are partying like it's 2007. They're not a terrible team to watch, but I'm not convinced they'll win more than 80 games. Of course, if they win 80, they'd be a mere 30 games better than the Cubs which is good enough for most Sox fans. Watch, they'll win the division, and we'll have to put up with the South Side Stench for another couple weeks.
Of teams whose fan bases have an unhealthy obsession with the Cubs, the Brewers are worth watching, especially if Aramis starts hitting again.
Despite my disdain for American League baseball, I've watched about 5 or 6 Sox games so far. They're not terrible and that second wild card spot might be where they eventually end up, considering Detroit is pretty much going to cruise to that division championship.
The East has been fascinating to watch this season so far. Baltimore's been not-shitty and Toronto has been entertaining as well.
Plus you have Bobby Valentine's shitstorm in Boston for additional entertainment value.
If you're watching the local broadcasts, do you turn the sound off?
I got to see the game yesterday - ESPN America was running it on my cable. For some fucking ridiculous reason, though, they ran the Sox feed so I had to listen to Harrelson and Stone's schtick from start to finish. Three hours of calling the Sox players by their first names, you-can-put-it-on-the-board-yesses, he-gones and seeing absolutely nothing wrong with Beckham bundling DeJesus off second to "tag" him out. You know the bit where Kerry Wood was hugging his boy and Len said "we'll let the crowd take you out", and there wasn't a dry eye in the house? Yeah, Hawk and Stone talked right the fucking way through that, about fuck all of interest. Fuck Hawk Harrelson and fuck Steve Stone. Even if I were a Sox fan (and thank fuck that I'm not) I feel sure I would detest them with every fibre of my being.
CSN re-aired the game last night. I gather Len and Bob were on WGN yesterday because the CSN rebroadcast was Hawk and Stone.
Guh.
I opted to watch something else and just flip over occasionally to see how close they were to the top of the 8th, but I was able to gather from the bits and pieces I caught that Hawk is not terribly taken with Samardzija or his "ponytail".
I'd forgotten about that - it got lost in amongst all the other fucking drivel. Hawk did indeed refer to Snork's hair as a "ponytail", and could barely contain his glee when that rocket back up the middle (the one that Barney snagged behind second base), and I quote, "nearly took his head off". Cunt.
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 24, 2012, 12:28:43 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 24, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 24, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM
FIRST PLACE SOX
Peavy and Dunn are partying like it's 2007. They're not a terrible team to watch, but I'm not convinced they'll win more than 80 games. Of course, if they win 80, they'd be a mere 30 games better than the Cubs which is good enough for most Sox fans. Watch, they'll win the division, and we'll have to put up with the South Side Stench for another couple weeks.
Of teams whose fan bases have an unhealthy obsession with the Cubs, the Brewers are worth watching, especially if Aramis starts hitting again.
Despite my disdain for American League baseball, I've watched about 5 or 6 Sox games so far. They're not terrible and that second wild card spot might be where they eventually end up, considering Detroit is pretty much going to cruise to that division championship.
The East has been fascinating to watch this season so far. Baltimore's been not-shitty and Toronto has been entertaining as well.
Plus you have Bobby Valentine's shitstorm in Boston for additional entertainment value.
If you're watching the local broadcasts, do you turn the sound off?
I got to see the game yesterday - ESPN America was running it on my cable. For some fucking ridiculous reason, though, they ran the Sox feed so I had to listen to Harrelson and Stone's schtick from start to finish. Three hours of calling the Sox players by their first names, you-can-put-it-on-the-board-yesses, he-gones and seeing absolutely nothing wrong with Beckham bundling DeJesus off second to "tag" him out. You know the bit where Kerry Wood was hugging his boy and Len said "we'll let the crowd take you out", and there wasn't a dry eye in the house? Yeah, Hawk and Stone talked right the fucking way through that, about fuck all of interest. Fuck Hawk Harrelson and fuck Steve Stone. Even if I were a Sox fan (and thank fuck that I'm not) I feel sure I would detest them with every fibre of my being.
CSN re-aired the game last night. I gather Len and Bob were on WGN yesterday because the CSN rebroadcast was Hawk and Stone.
Guh.
I opted to watch something else and just flip over occasionally to see how close they were to the top of the 8th, but I was able to gather from the bits and pieces I caught that Hawk is not terribly taken with Samardzija or his "ponytail".
I'd forgotten about that - it got lost in amongst all the other fucking drivel. Hawk did indeed refer to Snork's hair as a "ponytail", and could barely contain his glee when that rocket back up the middle (the one that Barney snagged behind second base), and I quote, "nearly took his head off". Cunt.
Show a little respect for the man who invented the batting glove.
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
I got to see the game yesterday - ESPN America was running it on my cable. For some fucking ridiculous reason, though, they ran the Sox feed so I had to listen to Harrelson and Stone's schtick from start to finish. Three hours of calling the Sox players by their first names, you-can-put-it-on-the-board-yesses, he-gones and seeing absolutely nothing wrong with Beckham bundling DeJesus off second to "tag" him out. You know the bit where Kerry Wood was hugging his boy and Len said "we'll let the crowd take you out", and there wasn't a dry eye in the house? Yeah, Hawk and Stone talked right the fucking way through that, about fuck all of interest. Fuck Hawk Harrelson and fuck Steve Stone. Even if I were a Sox fan (and thank fuck that I'm not) I feel sure I would detest them with every fibre of my being.
CSN re-aired the game last night. I gather Len and Bob were on WGN yesterday because the CSN rebroadcast was Hawk and Stone.
Guh.
I opted to watch something else and just flip over occasionally to see how close they were to the top of the 8th, but I was able to gather from the bits and pieces I caught that Hawk is not terribly taken with Samardzija or his "ponytail".
I'd forgotten about that - it got lost in amongst all the other fucking drivel. Hawk did indeed refer to Snork's hair as a "ponytail", and could barely contain his glee when that rocket back up the middle (the one that Barney snagged behind second base), and I quote, "nearly took his head off". Cunt.
That was the very moment I was thinking of. He said Samardzija better watch out or a comebacker like that'll take his ponytail right off. Spitting that out like Abe Simpson scoffing at Joe Namath's wild, untamed facial hair.
I also caught another bit where the camera found Samardzija chirping at Humber from the bench or something. This led to Hawk urging Snork to "go pick up a bat" himself, presumably forgetting that this was an interleague game at an NL park.
Of course, I completely missed the Paulie bean ball. So, lacking much of the context for the above, in the moment I probably mistook his risible meatball homerism for a slightly different brand of risible meatball homerism.
My favorite bit, though, came from the top of the 8th itself: attributing Gordon Beckham's third HR of 2012 to Samardzija having woken up a sleeping giant or some shit.
You wake up a guy like that, you're in big trouble.
Trouble to the tune of .206/.279/.333/.612 on the season.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
I got to see the game yesterday - ESPN America was running it on my cable. For some fucking ridiculous reason, though, they ran the Sox feed so I had to listen to Harrelson and Stone's schtick from start to finish. Three hours of calling the Sox players by their first names, you-can-put-it-on-the-board-yesses, he-gones and seeing absolutely nothing wrong with Beckham bundling DeJesus off second to "tag" him out. You know the bit where Kerry Wood was hugging his boy and Len said "we'll let the crowd take you out", and there wasn't a dry eye in the house? Yeah, Hawk and Stone talked right the fucking way through that, about fuck all of interest. Fuck Hawk Harrelson and fuck Steve Stone. Even if I were a Sox fan (and thank fuck that I'm not) I feel sure I would detest them with every fibre of my being.
CSN re-aired the game last night. I gather Len and Bob were on WGN yesterday because the CSN rebroadcast was Hawk and Stone.
Guh.
I opted to watch something else and just flip over occasionally to see how close they were to the top of the 8th, but I was able to gather from the bits and pieces I caught that Hawk is not terribly taken with Samardzija or his "ponytail".
I'd forgotten about that - it got lost in amongst all the other fucking drivel. Hawk did indeed refer to Snork's hair as a "ponytail", and could barely contain his glee when that rocket back up the middle (the one that Barney snagged behind second base), and I quote, "nearly took his head off". Cunt.
That was the very moment I was thinking of. He said Samardzija better watch out or a comebacker like that'll take his ponytail right off. Spitting that out like Abe Simpson scoffing at Joe Namath's wild, untamed facial hair.
I also caught another bit where the camera found Samardzija chirping at Humber from the bench or something. This led to Hawk urging Snork to "go pick up a bat" himself, presumably forgetting that this was an interleague game at an NL park.
Of course, I completely missed the Paulie bean ball. So, lacking much of the context for the above, I mistook his meatball homerism for a slightly different brand of meatball homerism.
My favorite bit, though, came from the top of the 8th itself: attributing Gordon Beckham's third HR of 2012 to Samardzija having woken up a sleeping giant or some shit.
You wake up a guy like that, you're in big trouble.
Trouble to the tune of .206/.279/.333/.612 on the season.
Yeah, the bit that made me snort was when they were discussing Beckham's long ball later in the game and Stone said something along the lines of "and then we had the go-ahead homer from - who else? - Gordon Beckham!"
Who else? Pretty much fucking ANYBODY else, that's who else, you dribbling idiot.
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
I got to see the game yesterday - ESPN America was running it on my cable. For some fucking ridiculous reason, though, they ran the Sox feed so I had to listen to Harrelson and Stone's schtick from start to finish. Three hours of calling the Sox players by their first names, you-can-put-it-on-the-board-yesses, he-gones and seeing absolutely nothing wrong with Beckham bundling DeJesus off second to "tag" him out. You know the bit where Kerry Wood was hugging his boy and Len said "we'll let the crowd take you out", and there wasn't a dry eye in the house? Yeah, Hawk and Stone talked right the fucking way through that, about fuck all of interest. Fuck Hawk Harrelson and fuck Steve Stone. Even if I were a Sox fan (and thank fuck that I'm not) I feel sure I would detest them with every fibre of my being.
CSN re-aired the game last night. I gather Len and Bob were on WGN yesterday because the CSN rebroadcast was Hawk and Stone.
Guh.
I opted to watch something else and just flip over occasionally to see how close they were to the top of the 8th, but I was able to gather from the bits and pieces I caught that Hawk is not terribly taken with Samardzija or his "ponytail".
I'd forgotten about that - it got lost in amongst all the other fucking drivel. Hawk did indeed refer to Snork's hair as a "ponytail", and could barely contain his glee when that rocket back up the middle (the one that Barney snagged behind second base), and I quote, "nearly took his head off". Cunt.
That was the very moment I was thinking of. He said Samardzija better watch out or a comebacker like that'll take his ponytail right off. Spitting that out like Abe Simpson scoffing at Joe Namath's wild, untamed facial hair.
I also caught another bit where the camera found Samardzija chirping at Humber from the bench or something. This led to Hawk urging Snork to "go pick up a bat" himself, presumably forgetting that this was an interleague game at an NL park.
Of course, I completely missed the Paulie bean ball. So, lacking much of the context for the above, I mistook his meatball homerism for a slightly different brand of meatball homerism.
My favorite bit, though, came from the top of the 8th itself: attributing Gordon Beckham's third HR of 2012 to Samardzija having woken up a sleeping giant or some shit.
You wake up a guy like that, you're in big trouble.
Trouble to the tune of .206/.279/.333/.612 on the season.
Yeah, the bit that made me snort was when they were discussing Beckham's long ball later in the game and Stone said something along the lines of "and then we had the go-ahead homer from - who else? - Gordon Beckham!"
Who else? Pretty much fucking ANYBODY else, that's who else, you dribbling idiot.
I was happy to see they were re-airing the game last night, even if I had to sit through the Sox broadcast. The weird thing is, when Konerko was first hit both Hawk and Stone agreed it was not intentional. But their story kept changing as the game went on for no apparent reason. By the end of the game Snork was pure evil in their minds.
And the idea that Beckham hit a homer for his injured bff was ridiculous. I don't know how Sox fans can stand to listen to them.
Quote from: Tony on May 19, 2012, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 19, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 19, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
I got to see the game yesterday - ESPN America was running it on my cable. For some fucking ridiculous reason, though, they ran the Sox feed so I had to listen to Harrelson and Stone's schtick from start to finish. Three hours of calling the Sox players by their first names, you-can-put-it-on-the-board-yesses, he-gones and seeing absolutely nothing wrong with Beckham bundling DeJesus off second to "tag" him out. You know the bit where Kerry Wood was hugging his boy and Len said "we'll let the crowd take you out", and there wasn't a dry eye in the house? Yeah, Hawk and Stone talked right the fucking way through that, about fuck all of interest. Fuck Hawk Harrelson and fuck Steve Stone. Even if I were a Sox fan (and thank fuck that I'm not) I feel sure I would detest them with every fibre of my being.
CSN re-aired the game last night. I gather Len and Bob were on WGN yesterday because the CSN rebroadcast was Hawk and Stone.
Guh.
I opted to watch something else and just flip over occasionally to see how close they were to the top of the 8th, but I was able to gather from the bits and pieces I caught that Hawk is not terribly taken with Samardzija or his "ponytail".
I'd forgotten about that - it got lost in amongst all the other fucking drivel. Hawk did indeed refer to Snork's hair as a "ponytail", and could barely contain his glee when that rocket back up the middle (the one that Barney snagged behind second base), and I quote, "nearly took his head off". Cunt.
That was the very moment I was thinking of. He said Samardzija better watch out or a comebacker like that'll take his ponytail right off. Spitting that out like Abe Simpson scoffing at Joe Namath's wild, untamed facial hair.
I also caught another bit where the camera found Samardzija chirping at Humber from the bench or something. This led to Hawk urging Snork to "go pick up a bat" himself, presumably forgetting that this was an interleague game at an NL park.
Of course, I completely missed the Paulie bean ball. So, lacking much of the context for the above, I mistook his meatball homerism for a slightly different brand of meatball homerism.
My favorite bit, though, came from the top of the 8th itself: attributing Gordon Beckham's third HR of 2012 to Samardzija having woken up a sleeping giant or some shit.
You wake up a guy like that, you're in big trouble.
Trouble to the tune of .206/.279/.333/.612 on the season.
Yeah, the bit that made me snort was when they were discussing Beckham's long ball later in the game and Stone said something along the lines of "and then we had the go-ahead homer from - who else? - Gordon Beckham!"
Who else? Pretty much fucking ANYBODY else, that's who else, you dribbling idiot.
I was happy to see they were re-airing the game last night, even if I had to sit through the Sox broadcast. The weird thing is, when Konerko was first hit both Hawk and Stone agreed it was not intentional. But their story kept changing as the game went on for no apparent reason. By the end of the game Snork was pure evil in their minds.
And the idea that Beckham hit a homer for his injured bff was ridiculous. I don't know how Sox fans can stand to listen to them.
I think they're trying to force Sox fans into Mobile Phone Park. Hawk, Stone, Ed, and Darren might very well be the worst broadcast crew in the game. Each is terrible in his own special way. It's fascinating that the Sox approve of their work, to be honest.
The Sox signed O-dog, a penfoe favorite.
lol @ losing a home series to the Cubs
Really enjoyed this commentary on cheap Sox fans followed up by the predictable flood of gay bashing Cub jokes in the comments.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/baffoe-talk-is-cheap-and-so-are-white-sox-fans/
Quote from: Slaky on August 23, 2012, 09:45:23 AM
Really enjoyed this commentary on cheap Sox fans followed up by the predictable flood of gay bashing Cub jokes in the comments.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/baffoe-talk-is-cheap-and-so-are-white-sox-fans/
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/baffoe-talk-is-cheap-and-so-are-white-sox-fans/#comment-626034991
QuoteShe'd aquarium
Aquarium? She hardly
knows him!
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2012, 10:01:35 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 23, 2012, 09:45:23 AM
Really enjoyed this commentary on cheap Sox fans followed up by the predictable flood of gay bashing Cub jokes in the comments.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/baffoe-talk-is-cheap-and-so-are-white-sox-fans/
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/baffoe-talk-is-cheap-and-so-are-white-sox-fans/#comment-626034991
QuoteShe'd aquarium
Aquarium? She hardly knows him!
Are we Cub fans because we are gay? Or are we gay because we are Cub fans? Why are these guys fixated on our sexuality?
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 12:10:10 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2012, 10:01:35 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 23, 2012, 09:45:23 AM
Really enjoyed this commentary on cheap Sox fans followed up by the predictable flood of gay bashing Cub jokes in the comments.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/baffoe-talk-is-cheap-and-so-are-white-sox-fans/
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/baffoe-talk-is-cheap-and-so-are-white-sox-fans/#comment-626034991
QuoteShe'd aquarium
Aquarium? She hardly knows him!
Are we Cub fans because we are gay? Or are we gay because we are Cub fans? Why are these guys fixated on our sexuality?
Because we're hot.
There's a rumor, and it's a rumor started by a blog so I HIGHLY doubt it has any substance, BUT apparently AJ Pierzynski has tested positive for PEDs and is going to be suspended. Maybe tomorrow.
I don't pray but...
Quote from: Slaky on September 05, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
There's a rumor, and it's a rumor started by a blog so I HIGHLY doubt it has any substance, BUT apparently AJ Pierzynski has tested positive for PEDs and is going to be suspended. Maybe tomorrow.
I don't pray but...
Outstanding.
Quote from: Brownie on September 06, 2012, 06:51:09 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 05, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
There's a rumor, and it's a rumor started by a blog so I HIGHLY doubt it has any substance, BUT apparently AJ Pierzynski has tested positive for PEDs and is going to be suspended. Maybe tomorrow.
I don't pray but...
Outstanding.
How many 30+ guys are having a resurgence on that team? I'd say a handful. I've been suspicious of this team for a while now. I'm willing suspend my laissez-faire attitude about drug cheats in this case. Hang 'em all.
Quote from: Brownie on September 06, 2012, 06:51:09 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 05, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
There's a rumor, and it's a rumor started by a blog so I HIGHLY doubt it has any substance, BUT apparently AJ Pierzynski has tested positive for PEDs and is going to be suspended. Maybe tomorrow.
I don't pray but...
Outstanding.
I guess it's completely false. So much for that.
Chicago Police are seriously hindering one White Sox fan's ability to renew his sesaon tickets next year.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-pot-fields-found-20121004,0,4576112.story
Any guesses? (http://deadspin.com/5975476/which-member-of-the-2005-white-sox-is-selling-his-world-series-ring-on-ebay)
DPD. I should have Gilled the comments.
QuoteThe ring belonged to Bill "Moose" Skowron, who worked for the Sox until his death in April. This is part of his estate sale. He also won World Series titles with the Yankees (1956, 1958, 1961, 1962) and the Dodgers (1963). A Chicago native, Skowron played for the White Sox from '64 through '67.
White Sox may sell Jerry Reinsdorf's share. I think this is less than 10%, but all of the voting stock. http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
As bad as the Cubs have been, at least they weren't swept in a doubleheader at home yesterday by scores of 19-10 (after leading 5-0!) and 9-8 (after giving up four runs in the top of the 9th). Human redneck soundboard Hawk Harrelson is now on suicide watch.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 29, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
As bad as the Cubs have been, at least they weren't swept in a doubleheader at home yesterday by scores of 19-10 (after leading 5-0!) and 9-8 (after giving up four runs in the top of the 9th). Human redneck no-soundboard Hawk Harrelson is now on suicide watch.
Hawk'd
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 29, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
As bad as the Cubs have been, at least they weren't swept in a doubleheader at home yesterday by scores of 19-10 (after leading 5-0!) and 9-8 (after giving up four runs in the top of the 9th). Human redneck soundboard Hawk Harrelson is now on suicide watch.
I took so much genuine joy in this when I heard it on the radio. On the same day the Hawks were honored in the manner in which they were to boot. What a disgrace; I'd be so disgusted if I were fan (I mean....been there plenty of times so I pretty much know how miserable and pissed off I'd be).
While we patiently wait out Year 2 of a seemingly coherent plan, I will not deny that I am thoroughly enjoying what a goddamn trainwreck that is on the south side.
Quote from: PANK! on June 30, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 29, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
As bad as the Cubs have been, at least they weren't swept in a doubleheader at home yesterday by scores of 19-10 (after leading 5-0!) and 9-8 (after giving up four runs in the top of the 9th). Human redneck soundboard Hawk Harrelson is now on suicide watch.
I took so much genuine joy in this when I heard it on the radio. On the same day the Hawks were honored in the manner in which they were to boot. What a disgrace; I'd be so disgusted if I were fan (I mean....been there plenty of times so I pretty much know how miserable and pissed off I'd be).
While we patiently wait out Year 2 of a seemingly coherent plan, I will not deny that I am thoroughly enjoying what a goddamn trainwreck that is on the south side.
I knew they'd bottom out at some point thanks to Kenny's doings but I didn't really think it'd be this bad. They're looking at the Cubs who are losing with a purpose and wondering what the hell their own is.
What's the plan down there? They have to start over.
The White Sox hired JI JIM THOME as a special assistant to Rick Hahn, so here's hoping Jim sneaks into Hawk's booth and leaves this video (http://www.mytopclip.com/videos/36043/) playing on Hawk's computer (or TV if Hawk doesn't know what a computer is) at least once a week.
(http://i.imgur.com/hOEdlC1.jpg)
Stupid McCub.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 03, 2013, 06:30:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/hOEdlC1.jpg)
Stupid McCub.
He's so handsome that I don't even mind that he's wearing Sox stuff.
Quote from: Slaky on July 01, 2013, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 30, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 29, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
As bad as the Cubs have been, at least they weren't swept in a doubleheader at home yesterday by scores of 19-10 (after leading 5-0!) and 9-8 (after giving up four runs in the top of the 9th). Human redneck soundboard Hawk Harrelson is now on suicide watch.
I took so much genuine joy in this when I heard it on the radio. On the same day the Hawks were honored in the manner in which they were to boot. What a disgrace; I'd be so disgusted if I were fan (I mean....been there plenty of times so I pretty much know how miserable and pissed off I'd be).
While we patiently wait out Year 2 of a seemingly coherent plan, I will not deny that I am thoroughly enjoying what a goddamn trainwreck that is on the south side.
I knew they'd bottom out at some point thanks to Kenny's doings but I didn't really think it'd be this bad. They're looking at the Cubs who are losing with a purpose and wondering what the hell their own is.
What's the plan down there? They have to start over.
I am not surprised that they're this bad and I even feel like they got there a year late.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 04, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 01, 2013, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 30, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 29, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
As bad as the Cubs have been, at least they weren't swept in a doubleheader at home yesterday by scores of 19-10 (after leading 5-0!) and 9-8 (after giving up four runs in the top of the 9th). Human redneck soundboard Hawk Harrelson is now on suicide watch.
I took so much genuine joy in this when I heard it on the radio. On the same day the Hawks were honored in the manner in which they were to boot. What a disgrace; I'd be so disgusted if I were fan (I mean....been there plenty of times so I pretty much know how miserable and pissed off I'd be).
While we patiently wait out Year 2 of a seemingly coherent plan, I will not deny that I am thoroughly enjoying what a goddamn trainwreck that is on the south side.
I knew they'd bottom out at some point thanks to Kenny's doings but I didn't really think it'd be this bad. They're looking at the Cubs who are losing with a purpose and wondering what the hell their own is.
What's the plan down there? They have to start over.
I am not surprised that they're this bad and I even feel like they got there a year late.
Making last year's April-through August division contention a mirage, which set them up for this season's disappointment. Things would have
really been set back had Ventura actually accepted his rumored off-season contract extension.
Quote from: PANK! on July 05, 2013, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 04, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 01, 2013, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 30, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 29, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
As bad as the Cubs have been, at least they weren't swept in a doubleheader at home yesterday by scores of 19-10 (after leading 5-0!) and 9-8 (after giving up four runs in the top of the 9th). Human redneck soundboard Hawk Harrelson is now on suicide watch.
I took so much genuine joy in this when I heard it on the radio. On the same day the Hawks were honored in the manner in which they were to boot. What a disgrace; I'd be so disgusted if I were fan (I mean....been there plenty of times so I pretty much know how miserable and pissed off I'd be).
While we patiently wait out Year 2 of a seemingly coherent plan, I will not deny that I am thoroughly enjoying what a goddamn trainwreck that is on the south side.
I knew they'd bottom out at some point thanks to Kenny's doings but I didn't really think it'd be this bad. They're looking at the Cubs who are losing with a purpose and wondering what the hell their own is.
What's the plan down there? They have to start over.
I am not surprised that they're this bad and I even feel like they got there a year late.
Making last year's April-through August division contention a mirage, which set them up for this season's disappointment. Things would have really been set back had Ventura actually accepted his rumored off-season contract extension.
Is he a bad manager?
Bump.
Just wondering if a team has ever been swept in a season series (minimum 4 games) by a team coming off a 100 loss season.
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2013, 05:17:36 PM
Bump.
Just wondering if a team has ever been swept in a season series (minimum 4 games) by a team coming off a 100 loss season.
Nope. But that "minimum 4 games" is the rub.
4-game season series aren't exactly the historical norm in MLB, and (the far more common) longer series are obviously tougher to sweep.
There
have been five 3-game season sweeps by teams coming off of 100+ loss seasons:
2009 Mariners (3-0 vs. ARI)
2006 Royals (3-0 vs. PIT)
2005 Royals (3-0 vs. LAD)
2004 Tigers (3-0 vs. ARI)
1997 Tigers (3-0 vs. NYM)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 09, 2013, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2013, 05:17:36 PM
Bump.
Just wondering if a team has ever been swept in a season series (minimum 4 games) by a team coming off a 100 loss season.
Nope. But that "minimum 4 games" is the rub.
4-game season series aren't exactly the historical norm in MLB, and (the far more common) longer series are obviously tougher to sweep.
There have been five 3-game season sweeps by teams coming off of 100+ loss seasons:
2009 Mariners (3-0 vs. ARI)
2006 Royals (3-0 vs. PIT)
2005 Royals (3-0 vs. LAD)
2004 Tigers (3-0 vs. ARI)
1997 Tigers (3-0 vs. NYM)
More comprehensively...
2013 Cubs: 4-0 vs. CHW (1.000)
2009 Mariners: 3-0 vs. ARI (1.000)
2006 Royals: 3-0 vs. PIT (1.000)
2005 Royals: 3-0 vs. LAD (1.000)
2004 Tigers: 3-0 vs. ARI (1.000)
1997 Tigers: 3-0 vs. NYM (1.000)
1962 Phillies: 17-1 vs. HOU (.944)
1905 Phillies: 18-3 vs. BRO (.857)
2011 Mariners: 5-1 vs. SDP (.833)
2010 Nationals: 5-1 vs. PIT (.833)
2009 Nationals: 5-1 vs. ARI (.833)
2003 Brewers: 5-1 vs. SDP (.833)
1999 Marlins: 5-1 vs. TBD (.833)
1986 Indians: 10-2 vs. OAK (.833)
1971 White Sox: 10-2 vs. WSA (.833)
1962 A's: 15-3 vs. WSA (.833)
2002 Pirates: 15-4 vs. MIL (.789)
2003 Royals: 7-2 vs. TEX (.778)
1999 Marlins: 7-2 vs. LAD (.778)
1962 Phillies: 14-4 vs. NYM (.778)
1929 Phillies: 17-5 vs. BSN (.773)
1905 Phillies: 17-5 vs. BSN (.773)
1989 Orioles: 10-3 vs. DET (.769)
1984 Mariners: 10-3 vs. TEX (.769)
1980 A's: 10-3 vs. CAL (.769)
And, for what it's worth, the 2013 Astros are 3-1 over both CHW and COL.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 09, 2013, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 09, 2013, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2013, 05:17:36 PM
Bump.
Just wondering if a team has ever been swept in a season series (minimum 4 games) by a team coming off a 100 loss season.
Nope. But that "minimum 4 games" is the rub.
4-game season series aren't exactly the historical norm in MLB, and (the far more common) longer series are obviously tougher to sweep.
There have been five 3-game season sweeps by teams coming off of 100+ loss seasons:
2009 Mariners (3-0 vs. ARI)
2006 Royals (3-0 vs. PIT)
2005 Royals (3-0 vs. LAD)
2004 Tigers (3-0 vs. ARI)
1997 Tigers (3-0 vs. NYM)
More comprehensively...
2013 Cubs: 4-0 vs. CHW (1.000)
2009 Mariners: 3-0 vs. ARI (1.000)
2006 Royals: 3-0 vs. PIT (1.000)
2005 Royals: 3-0 vs. LAD (1.000)
2004 Tigers: 3-0 vs. ARI (1.000)
1997 Tigers: 3-0 vs. NYM (1.000)
1962 Phillies: 17-1 vs. HOU (.944)
1905 Phillies: 18-3 vs. BRO (.857)
2011 Mariners: 5-1 vs. SDP (.833)
2010 Nationals: 5-1 vs. PIT (.833)
2009 Nationals: 5-1 vs. ARI (.833)
2003 Brewers: 5-1 vs. SDP (.833)
1999 Marlins: 5-1 vs. TBD (.833)
1986 Indians: 10-2 vs. OAK (.833)
1971 White Sox: 10-2 vs. WSA (.833)
1962 A's: 15-3 vs. WSA (.833)
2002 Pirates: 15-4 vs. MIL (.789)
2003 Royals: 7-2 vs. TEX (.778)
1999 Marlins: 7-2 vs. LAD (.778)
1962 Phillies: 14-4 vs. NYM (.778)
1929 Phillies: 17-5 vs. BSN (.773)
1905 Phillies: 17-5 vs. BSN (.773)
1989 Orioles: 10-3 vs. DET (.769)
1984 Mariners: 10-3 vs. TEX (.769)
1980 A's: 10-3 vs. CAL (.769)
And, for what it's worth, the 2013 Astros are 3-1 over both CHW and COL.
Impressive. I was lazy and didn't want to unzip and combine the individual Retrosheet logs. Did you do that or find it from some other source?
Quote from: ChuckD on July 09, 2013, 10:47:19 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 09, 2013, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 09, 2013, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2013, 05:17:36 PM
Bump.
Just wondering if a team has ever been swept in a season series (minimum 4 games) by a team coming off a 100 loss season.
Nope. But that "minimum 4 games" is the rub.
4-game season series aren't exactly the historical norm in MLB, and (the far more common) longer series are obviously tougher to sweep.
There have been five 3-game season sweeps by teams coming off of 100+ loss seasons:
2009 Mariners (3-0 vs. ARI)
2006 Royals (3-0 vs. PIT)
2005 Royals (3-0 vs. LAD)
2004 Tigers (3-0 vs. ARI)
1997 Tigers (3-0 vs. NYM)
More comprehensively...
2013 Cubs: 4-0 vs. CHW (1.000)
2009 Mariners: 3-0 vs. ARI (1.000)
2006 Royals: 3-0 vs. PIT (1.000)
2005 Royals: 3-0 vs. LAD (1.000)
2004 Tigers: 3-0 vs. ARI (1.000)
1997 Tigers: 3-0 vs. NYM (1.000)
1962 Phillies: 17-1 vs. HOU (.944)
1905 Phillies: 18-3 vs. BRO (.857)
2011 Mariners: 5-1 vs. SDP (.833)
2010 Nationals: 5-1 vs. PIT (.833)
2009 Nationals: 5-1 vs. ARI (.833)
2003 Brewers: 5-1 vs. SDP (.833)
1999 Marlins: 5-1 vs. TBD (.833)
1986 Indians: 10-2 vs. OAK (.833)
1971 White Sox: 10-2 vs. WSA (.833)
1962 A's: 15-3 vs. WSA (.833)
2002 Pirates: 15-4 vs. MIL (.789)
2003 Royals: 7-2 vs. TEX (.778)
1999 Marlins: 7-2 vs. LAD (.778)
1962 Phillies: 14-4 vs. NYM (.778)
1929 Phillies: 17-5 vs. BSN (.773)
1905 Phillies: 17-5 vs. BSN (.773)
1989 Orioles: 10-3 vs. DET (.769)
1984 Mariners: 10-3 vs. TEX (.769)
1980 A's: 10-3 vs. CAL (.769)
And, for what it's worth, the 2013 Astros are 3-1 over both CHW and COL.
Impressive. I was lazy and didn't want to unzip and combine the individual Retrosheet logs. Did you do that or find it from some other source?
Seconded on the methodology question. I too want to be a wizard.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 09, 2013, 11:23:39 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 09, 2013, 10:47:19 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 09, 2013, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 09, 2013, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2013, 05:17:36 PM
Bump.
Just wondering if a team has ever been swept in a season series (minimum 4 games) by a team coming off a 100 loss season.
Nope. But that "minimum 4 games" is the rub.
4-game season series aren't exactly the historical norm in MLB, and (the far more common) longer series are obviously tougher to sweep.
There have been five 3-game season sweeps by teams coming off of 100+ loss seasons:
2009 Mariners (3-0 vs. ARI)
2006 Royals (3-0 vs. PIT)
2005 Royals (3-0 vs. LAD)
2004 Tigers (3-0 vs. ARI)
1997 Tigers (3-0 vs. NYM)
More comprehensively...
2013 Cubs: 4-0 vs. CHW (1.000)
2009 Mariners: 3-0 vs. ARI (1.000)
2006 Royals: 3-0 vs. PIT (1.000)
2005 Royals: 3-0 vs. LAD (1.000)
2004 Tigers: 3-0 vs. ARI (1.000)
1997 Tigers: 3-0 vs. NYM (1.000)
1962 Phillies: 17-1 vs. HOU (.944)
1905 Phillies: 18-3 vs. BRO (.857)
2011 Mariners: 5-1 vs. SDP (.833)
2010 Nationals: 5-1 vs. PIT (.833)
2009 Nationals: 5-1 vs. ARI (.833)
2003 Brewers: 5-1 vs. SDP (.833)
1999 Marlins: 5-1 vs. TBD (.833)
1986 Indians: 10-2 vs. OAK (.833)
1971 White Sox: 10-2 vs. WSA (.833)
1962 A's: 15-3 vs. WSA (.833)
2002 Pirates: 15-4 vs. MIL (.789)
2003 Royals: 7-2 vs. TEX (.778)
1999 Marlins: 7-2 vs. LAD (.778)
1962 Phillies: 14-4 vs. NYM (.778)
1929 Phillies: 17-5 vs. BSN (.773)
1905 Phillies: 17-5 vs. BSN (.773)
1989 Orioles: 10-3 vs. DET (.769)
1984 Mariners: 10-3 vs. TEX (.769)
1980 A's: 10-3 vs. CAL (.769)
And, for what it's worth, the 2013 Astros are 3-1 over both CHW and COL.
Impressive. I was lazy and didn't want to unzip and combine the individual Retrosheet logs. Did you do that or find it from some other source?
Seconded on the methodology question. I too want to be a wizard.
No wizardry. Just a lot of clicking, scrolling and copy-and-pasting on Baseball Reference.
So it's certainly possible that I missed a few examples.
Looking at my spreadsheet, it looks like I've got 139 total team-seasons from the World Series era that followed 100+ loss seasons and, drawn from those, 128 total season series where that team either swept their opponent or won at least 4 more games than them. The above are the 25 series with better than .750 winning percentages.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/07/18/angi-selling-at-deadline-first-step-of-many-for-sunken-sox/
Magglio Ordonez...millionaire, former baseball player, former White Sox, and now a declared socialist.
QuoteMagglio Ordonez, a six-time Major League Baseball All-Star who earned $133 million with the Chicago White Sox and Detroit Tigers, will run for mayor of a Venezuelan oil town on the socialist party ticket of the late President Hugo Chavez, Businessweek reports.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-08-06/former-white-sox-all-star-ordonez-runs-for-mayor-in-venezuela
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 06, 2013, 03:43:08 PM
Magglio Ordonez...millionaire, former baseball player, former White Sox, and now a declared socialist.
QuoteMagglio Ordonez, a six-time Major League Baseball All-Star who earned $133 million with the Chicago White Sox and Detroit Tigers, will run for mayor of a Venezuelan oil town on the socialist party ticket of the late President Hugo Chavez, Businessweek reports.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-08-06/former-white-sox-all-star-ordonez-runs-for-mayor-in-venezuela
His association with Chavez isn't news. He is hated by Venezuelan ex-pats (not just Ozzie Guillen) and was boo'd by them lustily during the 2009 WBC. They chanted "Chavista" at him, which is the lowest insult that community has to offer.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 06, 2013, 03:56:15 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 06, 2013, 03:43:08 PM
Magglio Ordonez...millionaire, former baseball player, former White Sox, and now a declared socialist.
QuoteMagglio Ordonez, a six-time Major League Baseball All-Star who earned $133 million with the Chicago White Sox and Detroit Tigers, will run for mayor of a Venezuelan oil town on the socialist party ticket of the late President Hugo Chavez, Businessweek reports.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-08-06/former-white-sox-all-star-ordonez-runs-for-mayor-in-venezuela
His association with Chavez isn't news. He is hated by Venezuelan ex-pats (not just Ozzie Guillen) and was boo'd by them lustily during the 2009 WBC. They chanted "Chavista" at him, which is the lowest insult that community has to offer.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRzm402rzIL0ET9LXx4j1SvvmdfX_jYylnqjXhr3ZJ1NxSTjPRWfQ)
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 06, 2013, 03:43:08 PM
Magglio Ordonez...millionaire, former baseball player, former White Sox, and now a declared socialist.
QuoteMagglio Ordonez, a six-time Major League Baseball All-Star who earned $133 million with the Chicago White Sox and Detroit Tigers, will run for mayor of a Venezuelan oil town on the socialist party ticket of the late President Hugo Chavez, Businessweek reports.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-08-06/former-white-sox-all-star-ordonez-runs-for-mayor-in-venezuela
That money, divided by the city's population of 450,000, comes out to $288.89 per person. Viva Magglio!
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
This mock (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft) has the top 4 in the right order as of today's standings (I didn't check beyond 4.)
Has the Cubs going back to SoCal and taking the 3rd pitcher off the board.
Quote
Michael Cederoth
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/210 lbs
Position: RHP
School: San Diego St.
Quote from: PenFoe on August 23, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
This mock (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft) has the top 4 in the right order as of today's standings (I didn't check beyond 4.)
Has the Cubs going back to SoCal and taking the 3rd pitcher off the board.
Quote
Michael Cederoth
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/210 lbs
Position: RHP
School: San Diego St.
Is it just me, or is this utterly, utterly, utterly pointless?
Quote from: Tonker on August 23, 2013, 10:33:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 23, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
This mock (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft) has the top 4 in the right order as of today's standings (I didn't check beyond 4.)
Has the Cubs going back to SoCal and taking the 3rd pitcher off the board.
Quote
Michael Cederoth
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/210 lbs
Position: RHP
School: San Diego St.
Is it just me, or is this utterly, utterly, utterly pointless?
Is it just me, or are you new here?
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
Doubtful that it matters between the two of them. Jepstink has indicated that the Cubs intend to target pitching and the Sox need position players.
Quote from: Tonker on August 23, 2013, 10:33:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 23, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
This mock (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft) has the top 4 in the right order as of today's standings (I didn't check beyond 4.)
Has the Cubs going back to SoCal and taking the 3rd pitcher off the board.
Quote
Michael Cederoth
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/210 lbs
Position: RHP
School: San Diego St.
Is it just me, or is this utterly, utterly, utterly pointless?
Yeah, projecting pro sports' most unprojectable draft when there's an entire season ahead seems like a perfect waste of time.
Actually, wasting time talking about that waste of time is probably the most perfect waste of time.
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2013, 11:43:13 AM
Quote from: Tonker on August 23, 2013, 10:33:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 23, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
This mock (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft) has the top 4 in the right order as of today's standings (I didn't check beyond 4.)
Has the Cubs going back to SoCal and taking the 3rd pitcher off the board.
Quote
Michael Cederoth
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/210 lbs
Position: RHP
School: San Diego St.
Is it just me, or is this utterly, utterly, utterly pointless?
Yeah, projecting pro sports' most unprojectable draft when there's an entire season ahead seems like a perfect waste of time.
Actually, wasting time talking about that waste of time is probably the most perfect waste of time.
TIME TO POST?
Quote from: Bort on August 23, 2013, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2013, 11:43:13 AM
Quote from: Tonker on August 23, 2013, 10:33:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 23, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
This mock (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft) has the top 4 in the right order as of today's standings (I didn't check beyond 4.)
Has the Cubs going back to SoCal and taking the 3rd pitcher off the board.
Quote
Michael Cederoth
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/210 lbs
Position: RHP
School: San Diego St.
Is it just me, or is this utterly, utterly, utterly pointless?
Yeah, projecting pro sports' most unprojectable draft when there's an entire season ahead seems like a perfect waste of time.
Actually, wasting time talking about that waste of time is probably the most perfect waste of time.
TIME TO POST?
For all of us.
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2013, 11:51:57 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 23, 2013, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2013, 11:43:13 AM
Quote from: Tonker on August 23, 2013, 10:33:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 23, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
This mock (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft) has the top 4 in the right order as of today's standings (I didn't check beyond 4.)
Has the Cubs going back to SoCal and taking the 3rd pitcher off the board.
Quote
Michael Cederoth
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/210 lbs
Position: RHP
School: San Diego St.
Is it just me, or is this utterly, utterly, utterly pointless?
Yeah, projecting pro sports' most unprojectable draft when there's an entire season ahead seems like a perfect waste of time.
Actually, wasting time talking about that waste of time is probably the most perfect waste of time.
TIME TO POST?
For all of us.
You get a post!
You get a post!
Everybody gets a post!
Quote from: ChuckD on August 23, 2013, 11:16:10 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
These assholes are giftwrapping the #3 draft pick for the Cubs.
Doubtful that it matters between the two of them. Jepstink has indicated that the Cubs intend to target pitching and the Sox need position players.
Between the two of them, no. The Sox can salary-drive themselves out of a protected pick.
I also support the use of Jepstink.
Lacking any other good spot to put this (and since he was with the Sox in 72)
Harry Caray diary logs every drink at every bar in 1972 (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/harry-caray-diary-logs-every-drink-at-every-bar-in-1972-172254111.html)
Quote
...at least 354 of the previous 357 days in bars
Quote from: PenFoe on June 02, 2014, 02:54:08 PM
Lacking any other good spot to put this (and since he was with the Sox in 72)
Harry Caray diary logs every drink at every bar in 1972 (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/harry-caray-diary-logs-every-drink-at-every-bar-in-1972-172254111.html)
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...at least 354 of the previous 357 days in bars
You could 've put it somewhere in the Old Feedbag.
DRLP, probably. But in case anyone missed it.
http://totalfratmove.com/white-sox-give-away-white-ponchos-inadvertently-turn-stadium-into-a-klan-rally/
As good as a place (http://deadspin.com/alleged-murderer-has-cardinals-and-white-sox-logos-amon-1602404104)as any.
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--WsIWP4bV--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/wswwm5m7dykzumjdepxe.jpg)
Quote from: BH on July 09, 2014, 11:22:42 AM
As good as a place (http://deadspin.com/alleged-murderer-has-cardinals-and-white-sox-logos-amon-1602404104)as any.
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--WsIWP4bV--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/wswwm5m7dykzumjdepxe.jpg)
Can't we put this in the Cardinals thread?
It could also go in the 80's Mariners thread
http://www.murraychass.com/?p=7831
Jerry didn't get his way.
If the Cubs sweep the now-eliminated Brewers this weekend, the Sox'll have to win at least one game against a hard-charging KC team in order to not finish with a worse record than the Cubs. If the Cubs win 2 of 3, the Sox'll have to win at least 1 game to finish with the same record as the Cubs.
If either of those scenarios play out, the Sox will not have had a better record than the Cubs in each of the last two seasons, seasons in which the Cubs haven't even been trying to win.
Heh.
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2014, 11:14:12 AM
If the Cubs sweep the now-eliminated Brewers this weekend, the Sox'll have to win at least one game against a hard-charging KC team in order to not finish with a worse record than the Cubs. If the Cubs win 2 of 3, the Sox'll have to win at least 1 game to finish with the same record as the Cubs.
If either of those scenarios play out, the Sox will not have had a better record than the Cubs in each of the last two seasons, seasons in which the Cubs haven't even been trying to win.
Heh.
All I'm hearing is that Rick Hahn gets a higher draft pick than Epstoyer. Don't like it.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2014, 11:14:12 AM
If the Cubs sweep the now-eliminated Brewers this weekend, the Sox'll have to win at least one game against a hard-charging KC team in order to not finish with a worse record than the Cubs. If the Cubs win 2 of 3, the Sox'll have to win at least 1 game to finish with the same record as the Cubs.
If either of those scenarios play out, the Sox will not have had a better record than the Cubs in each of the last two seasons, seasons in which the Cubs haven't even been trying to win.
Heh.
All I'm hearing is that Rick Hahn gets a higher draft pick than Epstoyer. Don't like it.
Who cares the Sox are going to be bad for a long time
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2014, 11:14:12 AM
If the Cubs sweep the now-eliminated Brewers this weekend, the Sox'll have to win at least one game against a hard-charging KC team in order to not finish with a worse record than the Cubs. If the Cubs win 2 of 3, the Sox'll have to win at least 1 game to finish with the same record as the Cubs.
If either of those scenarios play out, the Sox will not have had a better record than the Cubs in each of the last two seasons, seasons in which the Cubs haven't even been trying to win.
Heh.
All I'm hearing is that Rick Hahn gets a higher draft pick than Epstoyer. Don't like it.
Who cares the Sox are going to be bad for a long time
That's not what I'm hearing from Hawk. They're on the verge:
White Sox World Series Plan
1. Abreu
2. Sale
3. ???
4. World Series
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2014, 11:14:12 AM
If the Cubs sweep the now-eliminated Brewers this weekend, the Sox'll have to win at least one game against a hard-charging KC team in order to not finish with a worse record than the Cubs. If the Cubs win 2 of 3, the Sox'll have to win at least 1 game to finish with the same record as the Cubs.
If either of those scenarios play out, the Sox will not have had a better record than the Cubs in each of the last two seasons, seasons in which the Cubs haven't even been trying to win.
Heh.
All I'm hearing is that Rick Hahn gets a higher draft pick than Epstoyer. Don't like it.
Who cares the Sox are going to be bad for a long time
Especially since they're losing Paul Konerko, who Sox fans swear was better than Derek Jeter.
Quote from: Fork on September 26, 2014, 12:05:55 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2014, 11:14:12 AM
If the Cubs sweep the now-eliminated Brewers this weekend, the Sox'll have to win at least one game against a hard-charging KC team in order to not finish with a worse record than the Cubs. If the Cubs win 2 of 3, the Sox'll have to win at least 1 game to finish with the same record as the Cubs.
If either of those scenarios play out, the Sox will not have had a better record than the Cubs in each of the last two seasons, seasons in which the Cubs haven't even been trying to win.
Heh.
All I'm hearing is that Rick Hahn gets a higher draft pick than Epstoyer. Don't like it.
Who cares the Sox are going to be bad for a long time
Especially since they're losing Paul Konerko, who Sox fans swear was better than Derek Jeter.
1egen4ary
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2014, 12:05:27 PM
White Sox World Series Plan
1. Abreu
2. Sale
3. ???
4. World Series
That's more or less my fantasy baseball championship plan, but it doesn't seem to be working out this week.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2014, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2014, 11:14:12 AM
If the Cubs sweep the now-eliminated Brewers this weekend, the Sox'll have to win at least one game against a hard-charging KC team in order to not finish with a worse record than the Cubs. If the Cubs win 2 of 3, the Sox'll have to win at least 1 game to finish with the same record as the Cubs.
If either of those scenarios play out, the Sox will not have had a better record than the Cubs in each of the last two seasons, seasons in which the Cubs haven't even been trying to win.
Heh.
All I'm hearing is that Rick Hahn gets a higher draft pick than Epstoyer. Don't like it.
Who cares the Sox are going to be bad for a long time
That's not what I'm hearing from Haugh (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-05/sports/ct-haugh-city-series-spt-0506-20140506_1_jose-abreu-chris-sale-white-sox). They're on the verge:
White Sox World Series Plan
1. Abreu
2. Sale
3. ???
4. World Series
Let's go with someone more credible than Hawk. How much more is debatable.
ZACH! DUKE! Here come the White Sox.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 18, 2014, 12:04:40 PM
ZACH! DUKE! Here come the White Sox.
Well, he's a good reliever who will make their team better, so there's something.
Quote from: Eli on November 18, 2014, 12:07:46 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 18, 2014, 12:04:40 PM
ZACH! DUKE! Here come the White Sox.
Well, he's a good reliever who will make their team better, so there's something.
That's if he comes close to last year's outlying production over the next three seasons, but yeah.
Who are the players the Sox are giving up for Samardzija? I thought the Sox didn't have any prospects. And is it assumed they'll lock Snork up beyond 2015?
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 07:06:51 AM
Who are the players the Sox are giving up for Samardzija? I thought the Sox didn't have any prospects. And is it assumed they'll lock Snork up beyond 2015?
I have no idea who they gave up for him, general consensus seems to be the Siemien kid or whatever isn't bad but the rest are nobodies. Think price was so low because it's Not a lock they'll extend him beyond 2015.
Quote from: SKO on December 09, 2014, 08:08:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 07:06:51 AM
Who are the players the Sox are giving up for Samardzija? I thought the Sox didn't have any prospects. And is it assumed they'll lock Snork up beyond 2015?
I have no idea who they gave up for him, general consensus seems to be the Siemien kid or whatever isn't bad but the rest are nobodies. Think price was so low because it's Not a lock they'll extend him beyond 2015.
So the Cubs got a blue chip player and possibly another solid prospect for what amounted to the White Sox' flotsam?
Poor Billy Beane, sheesh.
If Bort were still alive, he never would of stood for this.
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 08:16:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 09, 2014, 08:08:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 07:06:51 AM
Who are the players the Sox are giving up for Samardzija? I thought the Sox didn't have any prospects. And is it assumed they'll lock Snork up beyond 2015?
I have no idea who they gave up for him, general consensus seems to be the Siemien kid or whatever isn't bad but the rest are nobodies. Think price was so low because it's Not a lock they'll extend him beyond 2015.
So the Cubs got a blue chip player Derek Fucking Jeter and possibly another solid prospect for what amounted to the White Sox' flotsam?
Poor Billy Beane, sheesh.
Hall of Fame'd.
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2014, 08:48:45 AM
If Bort were still alive, he never would of stood for this.
He and the Sox deserve each other.
He'll crash to earth. Mark my words.
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
Also why wouldn't Beane start the year with Samardzija and flip him at the deadline? Is he worried that the A's will accidentally compete for the playoffs, thus rendering the impetus to deal him--and then get nothing (except a draft pick)--moot? Or does he think Samardzija actually sucks and his value will go down next year?
I just wonder what Beane's thinking was.
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 08:56:40 AM
Also why wouldn't Beane start the year with Samardzija and flip him at the deadline? Is he worried that the A's will accidentally compete for the playoffs, thus rendering the impetus to deal him--and then get nothing (except a draft pick)--moot? Or does he think Samardzija actually sucks and his value will go down next year?
I just wonder what Beane's thinking was.
I don't think anyone knows what Beane is doing right now except Beane. That's why I can't wait to see the A's 7 games up in August while everyone tries to figure out what's wrong with Anaheim or whatever.
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 08:56:40 AM
Also why wouldn't Beane start the year with Samardzija and flip him at the deadline? Is he worried that the A's will accidentally compete for the playoffs, thus rendering the impetus to deal him--and then get nothing (except a draft pick)--moot? Or does he think Samardzija actually sucks and his value will go down next year?
I just wonder what Beane's thinking was.
I don't think anyone knows what Beane is doing right now except Beane. That's why I can't wait to see the A's 7 games up in August while everyone tries to figure out what's wrong with Anaheim or whatever.
Yeah I thought of that. Somehow, he'll get a freakishly productive full season out of Semian and they'll compete.
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
I still don't really know who the Sox have in the outfield that's any good and they definitely don't have any catching.
Eaton is probably a good player even though I hate him. Viciedo sucks. People are high on Avisail Garcia. What else? They're still really flawed. And 4/40 on a closer is just not my thing.
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 09:12:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
I still don't really know who the Sox have in the outfield that's any good and they definitely don't have any catching.
Eaton is probably a good player even though I hate him. Viciedo sucks. People are high on Avisail Garcia. What else? They're still really flawed. And 4/40 on a closer is just not my thing.
I'm thinking their best case scenario is similar to 2001 Cubs. One guy on offense, good starting and relief pitching, still fade toward the end. That's best case.
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
LaRoche isn't untradeable at 2/25. That's a lefty bat that somebody might need at the deadline. Between he and Snork, they actually could improve their team if and when this season doesn't work out. The Robertson deal is a puzzler. 4/46 for a closer is too high, too many years. It makes me think they actually are trying to win this year. And stranger things have happened than a team like theirs hanging around the Selig Card picture for an entire season, then losing Snork for a draft pick and flipping LaRoche for whatevs. It's fine whatever. I hope they all get small pox.
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
LaRoche isn't untradeable at 2/25. That's a lefty bat that somebody might need at the deadline. Between he and Snork, they actually could improve their team if and when this season doesn't work out. The Robertson deal is a puzzler. 4/46 for a closer is too high, too many years. It makes me think they actually are trying to win this year. And stranger things have happened than a team like theirs hanging around the Selig Card picture for an entire season, then losing Snork for a draft pick and flipping LaRoche for whatevs. It's fine whatever. I hope they all get small pox.
Yeah I mean the Samardzija thing is great if you're going to win this year. They aren't. And he's going to walk.
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 09:24:23 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
LaRoche isn't untradeable at 2/25. That's a lefty bat that somebody might need at the deadline. Between he and Snork, they actually could improve their team if and when this season doesn't work out. The Robertson deal is a puzzler. 4/46 for a closer is too high, too many years. It makes me think they actually are trying to win this year. And stranger things have happened than a team like theirs hanging around the Selig Card picture for an entire season, then losing Snork for a draft pick and flipping LaRoche for whatevs. It's fine whatever. I hope they all get small pox.
Yeah I mean the Samardzija thing is great if you're going to win this year. They aren't. And he's going to walk.
Good. I feel better now. Good chat.
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
Couldn't Rodon be a part of the big league team for a significant part of the season? If so they could have a nasty rotation. Sale, Snork, Quintana, Rodon and oxycodone (for their opponents - because they'll need it after facing that staff!!)
Quote from: R-V on December 09, 2014, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
Couldn't Rodon be a part of the big league team for a significant part of the season? If so they could have a nasty rotation. Sale, Snork, Quintana, Rodon and oxycodone (for their opponents - because they'll need it after facing that staff!!)
Yeah, Rodon will be in the bigs. He might follow the Bryant plan and start the year in the minors, but he's ready. If he's as good as advertised, that's probably the best rotation in the American League.
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2014, 10:25:49 AM
Quote from: R-V on December 09, 2014, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
Couldn't Rodon be a part of the big league team for a significant part of the season? If so they could have a nasty rotation. Sale, Snork, Quintana, Rodon and oxycodone (for their opponents - because they'll need it after facing that staff!!)
Yeah, Rodon will be in the bigs. He might follow the Bryant plan and start the year in the minors, but he's ready. If he's as good as advertised, that's probably the best rotation in the American League.
Their defense is still atrocious, their manager still a boob. Their offense has quite a few holes. But it could work out. And if it doesn't, the fire sale at the deadline could put them in really good position moving forward with all that pitching as the foundation. I don't think Hahn is doing a poor job right now, and if he's able to flip some of these assets for real prospects, the Sox could be a team on the rise. Good thing they're in the American League and we don't ever have to think about them or talk about them or dedicate entire threads to breaking down their existence. That would be lame.
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2014, 10:25:49 AM
Quote from: R-V on December 09, 2014, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Sox fans are really happy about this so naturally I'm annoyed. This only serves to fuel the media if the Cubs miss on Lester and don't get a Name in a trade.
"It was supposed to be Theo's big offseason. No one was paying attention to the White Sox but Rick Hahn showed everyone that uggggggggggggggggggggggh"
I can't even complete writing that fake soon to be real story.
I'd be happy to the extent that nothing of value was apparently given up; but their hope has to be that Sale, Snork and Quintana (and pray for mañana) can carry them to the playoffs and beyond somehow (seems iffy to me with that lineup besides Abreu) because if Samardzija has another nice season, then in the words of their retarded cracker play-by-play man, "he gone".
Couldn't Rodon be a part of the big league team for a significant part of the season? If so they could have a nasty rotation. Sale, Snork, Quintana, Rodon and oxycodone (for their opponents - because they'll need it after facing that staff!!)
Yeah, Rodon will be in the bigs. He might follow the Bryant plan and start the year in the minors, but he's ready. If he's as good as advertised, that's probably the best rotation in the American League.
Their defense is still atrocious, their manager still a boob. Their offense has quite a few holes. But it could work out. And if it doesn't, the fire sale at the deadline could put them in really good position moving forward with all that pitching as the foundation. I don't think Hahn is doing a poor job right now, and if he's able to flip some of these assets for real prospects, the Sox could be a team on the rise. Good thing they're in the American League and we don't ever have to think about them or talk about them or dedicate entire threads to breaking down their existence. That would be lame.
You ain't from around here, is you?
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
I don't think Hahn is doing a poor job right now, and if he's able to flip some of these assets for real prospects, the Sox could be a team on the rise.
Is this some sort of subtle satire, or has the Cubs' rebuild convinced people that they only way to win is to flip good major-league players for prospects?
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2014, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
I don't think Hahn is doing a poor job right now, and if he's able to flip some of these assets for real prospects, the Sox could be a team on the rise.
Is this some sort of subtle satire, or has the Cubs' rebuild convinced people that they only way to win is to flip good major-league players for prospects?
I didn't say it was the only way. It is one way to improve a team. That and drafting/signing good, young baseball players, which the Sox have done here and there.
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2014, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
I don't think Hahn is doing a poor job right now, and if he's able to flip some of these assets for real prospects, the Sox could be a team on the rise.
Is this some sort of subtle satire, or has the Cubs' rebuild convinced people that they only way to win is to flip good major-league players for prospects?
I didn't say it was the only way. It is one way to improve a team. That and drafting/signing good, young baseball players, which the Sox have done here and there.
I'm sure the Sox are planning to compete now. You are right that if it doesn't go as planned, they'll have some assets to trade by midseason.
You're also right that their defense is garbage. If they can shore that up a bit, they'll likely be in contention.
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2014, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2014, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
I don't think Hahn is doing a poor job right now, and if he's able to flip some of these assets for real prospects, the Sox could be a team on the rise.
Is this some sort of subtle satire, or has the Cubs' rebuild convinced people that they only way to win is to flip good major-league players for prospects?
I didn't say it was the only way. It is one way to improve a team. That and drafting/signing good, young baseball players, which the Sox have done here and there.
I'm sure the Sox are planning to compete now. You are right that if it doesn't go as planned, they'll have some assets to trade by midseason.
You're also right that their defense is garbage. If they can shore that up a bit, they'll likely be in contention.
I'll give them credit for trying to be interesting at least. There's value there.
Quote from: PANK! on December 09, 2014, 08:56:40 AM
Also why wouldn't Beane start the year with Samardzija and flip him at the deadline? Is he worried that the A's will accidentally compete for the playoffs, thus rendering the impetus to deal him--and then get nothing (except a draft pick)--moot? Or does he think Samardzija actually sucks and his value will go down next year?
I just wonder what Beane's thinking was.
Pretty sure his thinking was, "I wonder what would happen if I traded Addison Russell, Billy McKinney, Yoenis Cespedes and Michael Ynoa for four mid-level prospects from MLB's 22nd best farm system?"
Quote from: PenFoe on December 09, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2014, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2014, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 09, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
I don't think Hahn is doing a poor job right now, and if he's able to flip some of these assets for real prospects, the Sox could be a team on the rise.
Is this some sort of subtle satire, or has the Cubs' rebuild convinced people that they only way to win is to flip good major-league players for prospects?
I didn't say it was the only way. It is one way to improve a team. That and drafting/signing good, young baseball players, which the Sox have done here and there.
I'm sure the Sox are planning to compete now. You are right that if it doesn't go as planned, they'll have some assets to trade by midseason.
You're also right that their defense is garbage. If they can shore that up a bit, they'll likely be in contention.
I'll give them credit for trying to be interesting at least. There's value there.
The working theory about the Sox is that they simply cannot afford to be bad considering no one goes to games when they're even good. They don't have the luxury of a long rebuild.
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Also why wouldn't Beane start the year with Samardzija and flip him at the deadline? Is he worried that the A's will accidentally compete for the playoffs, thus rendering the impetus to deal him--and then get nothing (except a draft pick)--moot? Or does he think Samardzija actually sucks and his value will go down next year?
I just wonder what Beane's thinking was.
Pretty sure his thinking was, "I wonder what would happen if I traded Addison Russell, Billy McKinney, Yoenis Cespedes and Michael Ynoa for four mid-level prospects from MLB's 22nd best farm system?"
That's not quite right. He was trying to win the 2014 World Series, and when that didn't happen he became so upset that he's begun flogging himself with a leather strap while watching soccer.
Bonerface is back in Chicago. They already signed Campana. Which shitty-to-meh ex-Cub will the Sox get next? Schierholtz?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 05, 2015, 02:45:54 PM
Bonerface is back in Chicago. They already signed Campana. Which shitty-to-meh ex-Cub will the Sox get next? Schierholtz?
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 05, 2015, 02:45:54 PM
Bonerface is back in Chicago. They already signed Campana. Which shitty-to-meh ex-Cub will the Sox get next? Schierholtz?
MICHAEL RESTOVICH JAKE FOX MICAH HOFFPAUIR BRYAN LAHAIR DAN VOGELBACH
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 28, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
Quote from: SKO on January 28, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 28, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
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Quote from: SKO on January 28, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 28, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
The Sox plan is to not have him play everyday; rather, super-sub BONERFACE outta a bunch of Utility appearances which still doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Quote from: PANK! on January 29, 2015, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: CBStew on January 28, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 28, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 28, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
The Sox plan is to not have him play everyday; rather, super-sub BONERFACE outta a bunch of Utility appearances which still doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Oh I get signing Bonerface. I was just wondering if one of the stat nerds here could tell me if there's some super-secret defensive stat or something that explains why Gordon Beckham is still getting the chance to play when WAR would say he's barely if any better than whatever Bobby Scales type you might have sitting at AAA.
Quote from: SKO on January 29, 2015, 09:25:07 AM
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Quote from: SKO on January 28, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 28, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
The Sox plan is to not have him play everyday; rather, super-sub BONERFACE outta a bunch of Utility appearances which still doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Oh I get signing Bonerface. I was just wondering if one of the stat nerds here could tell me if there's some super-secret defensive stat or something that explains why Gordon Beckham is still getting the chance to play when WAR would say he's barely if any better than whatever Bobby Scales type you might have sitting at AAA.
No. I'm saying that they weren't "Keeping (Beckham's) awful bat in the lineup" since they signed him as a backup, but that is
also dumb because they already have BONERFACE, whom I thought was a good signing also. What's the point of instantly challenging him with your wannabe South Side DeRosa who sucks? If I were a Sox fan
I'd chug some Drano I'd be pretty unhappy with then move and I would hate Gordon Beckham as much as I currently hate the glib, pandering white guys who the Cubs have had through the last 10 years who were actually good.
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 28, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
The Sox plan is to not have him play everyday; rather, super-sub BONERFACE outta a bunch of Utility appearances which still doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Oh I get signing Bonerface. I was just wondering if one of the stat nerds here could tell me if there's some super-secret defensive stat or something that explains why Gordon Beckham is still getting the chance to play when WAR would say he's barely if any better than whatever Bobby Scales type you might have sitting at AAA.
No. I'm saying that they weren't "Keeping (Beckham's) awful bat in the lineup" since they signed him as a backup, but that is also dumb because they already have BONERFACE, whom I thought was a good signing also. What's the point of instantly challenging him with your wannabe South Side DeRosa who sucks? If I were a Sox fan I'd chug some Drano I'd be pretty unhappy with then move and I would hate Gordon Beckham as much as I currently hate the glib, pandering white guys who the Cubs have had through the last 10 years who were actually good.
Your ANGER has become so uncontrollable you're getting mad at OTHER fanbases scrappy white guys for them. I approve of this.
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 28, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
The Sox plan is to not have him play everyday; rather, super-sub BONERFACE outta a bunch of Utility appearances which still doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Oh I get signing Bonerface. I was just wondering if one of the stat nerds here could tell me if there's some super-secret defensive stat or something that explains why Gordon Beckham is still getting the chance to play when WAR would say he's barely if any better than whatever Bobby Scales type you might have sitting at AAA.
No. I'm saying that they weren't "Keeping (Beckham's) awful bat in the lineup" since they signed him as a backup, but that is also dumb because they already have BONERFACE, whom I thought was a good signing also. What's the point of instantly challenging him with your wannabe South Side DeRosa who sucks? If I were a Sox fan I'd chug some Drano I'd be pretty unhappy with then move and I would hate Gordon Beckham as much as I currently hate the glib, pandering white guys who the Cubs have had through the last 10 years who were actually good.
Your ANGER has become so uncontrollable you're getting mad at OTHER fanbases scrappy white guys for them. I approve of this.
*notches belt*
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 28, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
The Sox plan is to not have him play everyday; rather, super-sub BONERFACE outta a bunch of Utility appearances which still doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Oh I get signing Bonerface. I was just wondering if one of the stat nerds here could tell me if there's some super-secret defensive stat or something that explains why Gordon Beckham is still getting the chance to play when WAR would say he's barely if any better than whatever Bobby Scales type you might have sitting at AAA.
No. I'm saying that they weren't "Keeping (Beckham's) awful bat in the lineup" since they signed him as a backup, but that is also dumb because they already have BONERFACE, whom I thought was a good signing also. What's the point of instantly challenging him with your wannabe South Side DeRosa who sucks? If I were a Sox fan I'd chug some Drano I'd be pretty unhappy with then move and I would hate Gordon Beckham as much as I currently hate the glib, pandering white guys who the Cubs have had through the last 10 years who were actually good.
Your ANGER has become so uncontrollable you're getting mad at OTHER fanbases scrappy white guys for them. I approve of this.
*notches belt*
Now you're just trying to make SKO jealous.
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They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
The Sox plan is to not have him play everyday; rather, super-sub BONERFACE outta a bunch of Utility appearances which still doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Oh I get signing Bonerface. I was just wondering if one of the stat nerds here could tell me if there's some super-secret defensive stat or something that explains why Gordon Beckham is still getting the chance to play when WAR would say he's barely if any better than whatever Bobby Scales type you might have sitting at AAA.
No. I'm saying that they weren't "Keeping (Beckham's) awful bat in the lineup" since they signed him as a backup, but that is also dumb because they already have BONERFACE, whom I thought was a good signing also. What's the point of instantly challenging him with your wannabe South Side DeRosa who sucks? If I were a Sox fan I'd chug some Drano I'd be pretty unhappy with then move and I would hate Gordon Beckham as much as I currently hate the glib, pandering white guys who the Cubs have had through the last 10 years who were actually good.
Your ANGER has become so uncontrollable you're getting mad at OTHER fanbases scrappy white guys for them. I approve of this.
*notches belt*
Now you're just trying to make SKO jealous.
I Muttley'd.
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They must be all out of shitty ex-Cubs because now they're signing shitty ex-Sox like Gordon Beckham. A lot of people I talk to are convinced the White Sox are going to be a lot better than the Cubs this year. We'll see.
I really don't get why they keep trying the Gordon Beckham thing. I guess I could understand keeping that awful bat in the lineup if he was a plus defender but he's really not. Has all of 1 seasons since his rookie year where he even scratched 1.0 WAR. Like even for vet minimum that seems like a spot where you could do better than him.
The definition of insanity.
The Sox plan is to not have him play everyday; rather, super-sub BONERFACE outta a bunch of Utility appearances which still doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Oh I get signing Bonerface. I was just wondering if one of the stat nerds here could tell me if there's some super-secret defensive stat or something that explains why Gordon Beckham is still getting the chance to play when WAR would say he's barely if any better than whatever Bobby Scales type you might have sitting at AAA.
No. I'm saying that they weren't "Keeping (Beckham's) awful bat in the lineup" since they signed him as a backup, but that is also dumb because they already have BONERFACE, whom I thought was a good signing also. What's the point of instantly challenging him with your wannabe South Side DeRosa who sucks? If I were a Sox fan I'd chug some Drano I'd be pretty unhappy with then move and I would hate Gordon Beckham as much as I currently hate the glib, pandering white guys who the Cubs have had through the last 10 years who were actually good.
Your ANGER has become so uncontrollable you're getting mad at OTHER fanbases scrappy white guys for them. I approve of this.
*notches belt*
Now you're just trying to make SKO jealous.
I Muttley'd.
So did I.
Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 05:42:13 PM
Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
It'll be fun to track them this year because they have a) Abreu who is truly a monster and b) Sale who is truly an ace.
C) They don't have much else (many will say their rotation is actually really good and maybe it is but I don't care)
So when they play middling ball for the majority of the year or have one of those typical Sox losing streaks where they average 3 errors a game I'm just gonna be laughing. Because even if the Cubs end up middling themselves, this is hardly The Year. It's A Year, the first of many.
Adam Eaton just made a ridiculous freaking catch. (https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos_h264high/3FEAE5074F1198034447497666560_SW_WEBM_1428607880125846c9f61f0.mp4?versionId=bxWO6ge1XpWVS5eBMr3T67aFm.ZOQWPy)
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 05:42:13 PM
Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
It'll be fun to track them this year because they have a) Abreu who is truly a monster and b) Sale who is truly an ace.
C) They don't have much else (many will say their rotation is actually really good and maybe it is but I don't care)
So when they play middling ball for the majority of the year or have one of those typical Sox losing streaks where they average 3 errors a game I'm just gonna be laughing. Because even if the Cubs end up middling themselves, this is hardly The Year. It's A Year, the first of many.
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans, of which I know two very mild-mannered ones), but I've kind of decided to root against them because of the Sun Times angle that the White Sox are somehow the better of the two franchises because they've sucked while throwing money at problems the last few years while the Cubs have sucked without the money-throwing. Also that weird thing last year where Theo and Co. got criticized for not going after Abreu while they had their own 5 WAR first baseman tearing shit up.
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
It's not a bad gig. Enjoy it if they have success, but their losses have no effect on me. Plus, they're constructed very differently than the Cubs, so it's a fun contrast.
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Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
It's not a bad gig. Enjoy it if they have success, but their losses have no effect on me. Plus, they're constructed very differently than the Cubs, so it's a fun contrast.
Their fans also seriously fucking hate the Cardinals, so we've bonded quickly.
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Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
It's not a bad gig. Enjoy it if they have success, but their losses have no effect on me. Plus, they're constructed very differently than the Cubs, so it's a fun contrast.
Their fans also seriously fucking hate the Cardinals, so we've bonded quickly.
Don't they pretty much hate everyone more than they actually like their own team?
Shit, they even hate first base coaches.
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Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
It's not a bad gig. Enjoy it if they have success, but their losses have no effect on me. Plus, they're constructed very differently than the Cubs, so it's a fun contrast.
Their fans also seriously fucking hate the Cardinals, so we've bonded quickly.
Don't they pretty much hate everyone more than they actually like their own team?
Shit, they even hate first base coaches.
They're talking about the Royals, not the Shite Sox.
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 09, 2015, 02:40:58 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 05:42:13 PM
Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
It'll be fun to track them this year because they have a) Abreu who is truly a monster and b) Sale who is truly an ace.
C) They don't have much else (many will say their rotation is actually really good and maybe it is but I don't care)
So when they play middling ball for the majority of the year or have one of those typical Sox losing streaks where they average 3 errors a game I'm just gonna be laughing. Because even if the Cubs end up middling themselves, this is hardly The Year. It's A Year, the first of many.
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans, of which I know two very mild-mannered ones), but I've kind of decided to root against them because of the Sun Times angle that the White Sox are somehow the better of the two franchises because they've sucked while throwing money at problems the last few years while the Cubs have sucked without the money-throwing. Also that weird thing last year where Theo and Co. got criticized for not going after Abreu while they had their own 5 WAR first baseman tearing shit up.
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
I welcome you to the Sox Hatewagon and in turn look forward to pulling for your Royals. I've always pulled for any team in the Sox' division that's a threat to them and the Royals suddenly fit that bill again for the first time since the second Reagan administration. Great fucking start to the season--I couldn't be happier. Go Royals.
*throws on Mark Gubicza jersey*
Quote from: PANK! on April 10, 2015, 09:12:05 AM
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 05:42:13 PM
Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
It'll be fun to track them this year because they have a) Abreu who is truly a monster and b) Sale who is truly an ace.
C) They don't have much else (many will say their rotation is actually really good and maybe it is but I don't care)
So when they play middling ball for the majority of the year or have one of those typical Sox losing streaks where they average 3 errors a game I'm just gonna be laughing. Because even if the Cubs end up middling themselves, this is hardly The Year. It's A Year, the first of many.
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans, of which I know two very mild-mannered ones), but I've kind of decided to root against them because of the Sun Times angle that the White Sox are somehow the better of the two franchises because they've sucked while throwing money at problems the last few years while the Cubs have sucked without the money-throwing. Also that weird thing last year where Theo and Co. got criticized for not going after Abreu while they had their own 5 WAR first baseman tearing shit up.
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
I welcome you to the Sox Hatewagon and in turn look forward to pulling for your Royals. I've always pulled for any team in the Sox' division that's a threat to them and the Royals suddenly fit that bill again for the first time since the second Reagan administration. Great fucking start to the season--I couldn't be happier. Go Royals.
*throws on Mark Gubicza jersey*
*throws on Kid Rock jersey*
Quote from: PenFoe on April 10, 2015, 09:13:36 AM
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Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 09, 2015, 02:40:58 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 05:42:13 PM
Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
It'll be fun to track them this year because they have a) Abreu who is truly a monster and b) Sale who is truly an ace.
C) They don't have much else (many will say their rotation is actually really good and maybe it is but I don't care)
So when they play middling ball for the majority of the year or have one of those typical Sox losing streaks where they average 3 errors a game I'm just gonna be laughing. Because even if the Cubs end up middling themselves, this is hardly The Year. It's A Year, the first of many.
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans, of which I know two very mild-mannered ones), but I've kind of decided to root against them because of the Sun Times angle that the White Sox are somehow the better of the two franchises because they've sucked while throwing money at problems the last few years while the Cubs have sucked without the money-throwing. Also that weird thing last year where Theo and Co. got criticized for not going after Abreu while they had their own 5 WAR first baseman tearing shit up.
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
I welcome you to the Sox Hatewagon and in turn look forward to pulling for your Royals. I've always pulled for any team in the Sox' division that's a threat to them and the Royals suddenly fit that bill again for the first time since the second Reagan administration. Great fucking start to the season--I couldn't be happier. Go Royals.
*throws on Mark Gubicza jersey*
*throws on Kid Rock jersey*
If I'm donning a Royals shirsey it's gonna be for Mike Sweeney. I loved that beefy sonofabitch and am still sad he never really had a shot to play for a contender.
I like to tell myself that absent Hawk Harrelson and Jeff Samardzija, I don't really hate the White Sox at all but that's just not true. Because I'm a petty, unhappy person and I want that team to suck really bad. The fact that their fans seem to think that THEY are Chicago and the Cubbies fans are a bunch of out-of-town, know-nothing dipshits annoys the piss out of me. Fill up your park during a pennant race and then make that argument.
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Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
It'll be fun to track them this year because they have a) Abreu who is truly a monster and b) Sale who is truly an ace.
C) They don't have much else (many will say their rotation is actually really good and maybe it is but I don't care)
So when they play middling ball for the majority of the year or have one of those typical Sox losing streaks where they average 3 errors a game I'm just gonna be laughing. Because even if the Cubs end up middling themselves, this is hardly The Year. It's A Year, the first of many.
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans, of which I know two very mild-mannered ones), but I've kind of decided to root against them because of the Sun Times angle that the White Sox are somehow the better of the two franchises because they've sucked while throwing money at problems the last few years while the Cubs have sucked without the money-throwing. Also that weird thing last year where Theo and Co. got criticized for not going after Abreu while they had their own 5 WAR first baseman tearing shit up.
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
I welcome you to the Sox Hatewagon and in turn look forward to pulling for your Royals. I've always pulled for any team in the Sox' division that's a threat to them and the Royals suddenly fit that bill again for the first time since the second Reagan administration. Great fucking start to the season--I couldn't be happier. Go Royals.
*throws on Mark Gubicza jersey*
*throws on Kid Rock jersey*
*dons Drew Carey glasses*
Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
I like to tell myself that absent Hawk Harrelson and Jeff Samardzija, I don't really hate the White Sox at all but that's just not true. Because I'm a petty, unhappy person and I want that team to suck really bad. The fact that their fans seem to think that THEY are Chicago and the Cubbies fans are a bunch of out-of-town, know-nothing dipshits annoys the piss out of me. Fill up your park during a pennant race and then make that argument.
Yeah see I think that's why I don't hate the White Sox. I've gathered that 90% of the hatred directed towards that franchise on this messageboard comes from LOCAL GUYS who have to deal with loathsome Sox fans. Outside of Chicago there are roughly 43 White Sox fans in the entire country and I've only come across a handful of them and they've been tolerable. I know a billion Cardinals fans and they all suck, so that hate is easy. Outside of Chicago the White Sox are just really, really fucking easy to ignore.
Besides, until 2005, the Sox had more or less been our partners in futility.
I've had as much fun listening to old timers talk about Jungle Jim Rivera as I have had listening to old timers talk about Andy Pafko.
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Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
I like to tell myself that absent Hawk Harrelson and Jeff Samardzija, I don't really hate the White Sox at all but that's just not true. Because I'm a petty, unhappy person and I want that team to suck really bad. The fact that their fans seem to think that THEY are Chicago and the Cubbies fans are a bunch of out-of-town, know-nothing dipshits annoys the piss out of me. Fill up your park during a pennant race and then make that argument.
Yeah see I think that's why I don't hate the White Sox. I've gathered that 90% of the hatred directed towards that franchise on this messageboard comes from LOCAL GUYS who have to deal with loathsome Sox fans. Outside of Chicago there are roughly 43 White Sox fans in the entire country and I've only come across a handful of them and they've been tolerable. I know a billion Cardinals fans and they all suck, so that hate is easy. Outside of Chicago the White Sox are just really, really fucking easy to ignore.
Yeah, I remember those days. But when interleague play started even I got up for the games with the Sox because you could feel the intensity in the ballpark even on television and radio. I wanted in.
Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
I like to tell myself that absent Hawk Harrelson and Jeff Samardzija, I don't really hate the White Sox at all but that's just not true. Because I'm a petty, unhappy person and I want that team to suck really bad. The fact that their fans seem to think that THEY are Chicago and the Cubbies fans are a bunch of out-of-town, know-nothing dipshits annoys the piss out of me. Fill up your park during a pennant race and then make that argument.
Yeah see I think that's why I don't hate the White Sox. I've gathered that 90% of the hatred directed towards that franchise on this messageboard comes from LOCAL GUYS who have to deal with loathsome Sox fans. Outside of Chicago there are roughly 43 White Sox fans in the entire country and I've only come across a handful of them and they've been tolerable. I know a billion Cardinals fans and they all suck, so that hate is easy. Outside of Chicago the White Sox are just really, really fucking easy to ignore.
Yeah, I remember those days. But when interleague play started even I got up for the games with the Sox because you could feel the intensity in the ballpark even on television and radio. I wanted in.
Yeah, but now that intensity is gone. It's so contrived. Get rid of the natural rivalries and just rotate interleague divisional play like the NFL does.
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Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
I like to tell myself that absent Hawk Harrelson and Jeff Samardzija, I don't really hate the White Sox at all but that's just not true. Because I'm a petty, unhappy person and I want that team to suck really bad. The fact that their fans seem to think that THEY are Chicago and the Cubbies fans are a bunch of out-of-town, know-nothing dipshits annoys the piss out of me. Fill up your park during a pennant race and then make that argument.
Yeah see I think that's why I don't hate the White Sox. I've gathered that 90% of the hatred directed towards that franchise on this messageboard comes from LOCAL GUYS who have to deal with loathsome Sox fans. Outside of Chicago there are roughly 43 White Sox fans in the entire country and I've only come across a handful of them and they've been tolerable. I know a billion Cardinals fans and they all suck, so that hate is easy. Outside of Chicago the White Sox are just really, really fucking easy to ignore.
Yeah, I remember those days. But when interleague play started even I got up for the games with the Sox because you could feel the intensity in the ballpark even on television and radio. I wanted in.
Yeah, but now that intensity is gone. It's so contrived. Get rid of the natural rivalries and just rotate interleague divisional play like the NFL does.
You know for a fact that will never happen.
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Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
I like to tell myself that absent Hawk Harrelson and Jeff Samardzija, I don't really hate the White Sox at all but that's just not true. Because I'm a petty, unhappy person and I want that team to suck really bad. The fact that their fans seem to think that THEY are Chicago and the Cubbies fans are a bunch of out-of-town, know-nothing dipshits annoys the piss out of me. Fill up your park during a pennant race and then make that argument.
Yeah see I think that's why I don't hate the White Sox. I've gathered that 90% of the hatred directed towards that franchise on this messageboard comes from LOCAL GUYS who have to deal with loathsome Sox fans. Outside of Chicago there are roughly 43 White Sox fans in the entire country and I've only come across a handful of them and they've been tolerable. I know a billion Cardinals fans and they all suck, so that hate is easy. Outside of Chicago the White Sox are just really, really fucking easy to ignore.
Yeah, I remember those days. But when interleague play started even I got up for the games with the Sox because you could feel the intensity in the ballpark even on television and radio. I wanted in.
Yeah, but now that intensity is gone. It's so contrived. Get rid of the natural rivalries and just rotate interleague divisional play like the NFL does.
You know for a fact that will never happen.
Certainly not while Uncle Jerry's still alive. That's one of his few guaranteed sellouts.
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Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
I like to tell myself that absent Hawk Harrelson and Jeff Samardzija, I don't really hate the White Sox at all but that's just not true. Because I'm a petty, unhappy person and I want that team to suck really bad. The fact that their fans seem to think that THEY are Chicago and the Cubbies fans are a bunch of out-of-town, know-nothing dipshits annoys the piss out of me. Fill up your park during a pennant race and then make that argument.
Yeah see I think that's why I don't hate the White Sox. I've gathered that 90% of the hatred directed towards that franchise on this messageboard comes from LOCAL GUYS who have to deal with loathsome Sox fans. Outside of Chicago there are roughly 43 White Sox fans in the entire country and I've only come across a handful of them and they've been tolerable. I know a billion Cardinals fans and they all suck, so that hate is easy. Outside of Chicago the White Sox are just really, really fucking easy to ignore.
Yeah, I remember those days. But when interleague play started even I got up for the games with the Sox because you could feel the intensity in the ballpark even on television and radio. I wanted in.
Yeah, but now that intensity is gone. It's so contrived. Get rid of the natural rivalries and just rotate interleague divisional play like the NFL does.
You know for a fact that will never happen.
Certainly not while Uncle Jerry's still alive. That's one of his few guaranteed sellouts.
I think a lot fans still care about it. And that should still matter to some extant. Making sure that two teams in the same or nearby markets play each other during a 162 fucking game season isn't too big of a bone to flip. And unlike the NFL, interest in Major League Baseball is mostly local.
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Quote from: InternetApex on April 10, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
I like to tell myself that absent Hawk Harrelson and Jeff Samardzija, I don't really hate the White Sox at all but that's just not true. Because I'm a petty, unhappy person and I want that team to suck really bad. The fact that their fans seem to think that THEY are Chicago and the Cubbies fans are a bunch of out-of-town, know-nothing dipshits annoys the piss out of me. Fill up your park during a pennant race and then make that argument.
Yeah see I think that's why I don't hate the White Sox. I've gathered that 90% of the hatred directed towards that franchise on this messageboard comes from LOCAL GUYS who have to deal with loathsome Sox fans. Outside of Chicago there are roughly 43 White Sox fans in the entire country and I've only come across a handful of them and they've been tolerable. I know a billion Cardinals fans and they all suck, so that hate is easy. Outside of Chicago the White Sox are just really, really fucking easy to ignore.
Yeah, I remember those days. But when interleague play started even I got up for the games with the Sox because you could feel the intensity in the ballpark even on television and radio. I wanted in.
Yeah, but now that intensity is gone. It's so contrived. Get rid of the natural rivalries and just rotate interleague divisional play like the NFL does.
You know for a fact that will never happen.
Certainly not while Uncle Jerry's still alive. That's one of his few guaranteed sellouts.
I think a lot fans still care about it. And that should still matter to some extant. Making sure that two teams in the same or nearby markets play each other during a 162 fucking game season isn't too big of a bone to flip. And unlike the NFL, interest in Major League Baseball is mostly local.
Well remember that what Chuck thinks about something is what everyone else thinks. If Chuck doesn't like the NBA and spends all of his time on twitter talking about how he doesn't like the NBA, it's safe to say no one is interested in the NBA. If Chuck doesn't really care about playing the White Sox six times a year, then the intensity is gone, sell out crowds and tv ratings be damned.
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Well remember that what Chuck thinks about something is what everyone else thinks. If Chuck doesn't like the NBA and spends all of his time on twitter talking about how he doesn't like the NBA, it's safe to say no one is interested in the NBA. If Chuck doesn't really care about playing the White Sox six times a year, then the intensity is gone, sell out crowds and tv ratings be damned.
They aren't selling out anymore.
Cubs @ Sox
2014: 21,075; 26,332
2013: 30,631
2012: 33,215; 30,282; 32,311
2011: 36,005; 35,155; 35,403
2010: 39,364; 39,479; 39,682
That's a pretty steep and steady five year trend. Now, maybe it's because both teams have been poor the last two years, but in 2012, the Sox were an 85 win team.
Let's see what happens this year, but I'd guess they reverse last year's awful awful showing, but do no better than 2012 levels. Which would be 80% of tickets sold.
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Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Well remember that what Chuck thinks about something is what everyone else thinks. If Chuck doesn't like the NBA and spends all of his time on twitter talking about how he doesn't like the NBA, it's safe to say no one is interested in the NBA. If Chuck doesn't really care about playing the White Sox six times a year, then the intensity is gone, sell out crowds and tv ratings be damned.
They aren't selling out anymore.
Cubs @ Sox
2014: 21,075; 26,332
2013: 30,631
2012: 33,215; 30,282; 32,311
2011: 36,005; 35,155; 35,403
2010: 39,364; 39,479; 39,682
That's a pretty steep and steady five year trend. Now, maybe it's because both teams have been poor the last two years, but in 2012, the Sox were an 85 win team.
Let's see what happens this year, but I'd guess they reverse last year's awful awful showing, but do no better than 2012 levels. Which would be 80% of tickets sold.
Pretty sure running the games in back-to-back two game series last year, with the Sox home games on Wednesday and Thursday nights with the Cubs already 10 games below .500 in early May, probably had a lot more to do with the piss-poor attendance than the bloom being off the rose.
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 10, 2015, 01:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Well remember that what Chuck thinks about something is what everyone else thinks. If Chuck doesn't like the NBA and spends all of his time on twitter talking about how he doesn't like the NBA, it's safe to say no one is interested in the NBA. If Chuck doesn't really care about playing the White Sox six times a year, then the intensity is gone, sell out crowds and tv ratings be damned.
They aren't selling out anymore.
Cubs @ Sox
2014: 21,075; 26,332
2013: 30,631
2012: 33,215; 30,282; 32,311
2011: 36,005; 35,155; 35,403
2010: 39,364; 39,479; 39,682
That's a pretty steep and steady five year trend. Now, maybe it's because both teams have been poor the last two years, but in 2012, the Sox were an 85 win team.
Let's see what happens this year, but I'd guess they reverse last year's awful awful showing, but do no better than 2012 levels. Which would be 80% of tickets sold.
Pretty sure running the games in back-to-back two game series last year, with the Sox home games on Wednesday and Thursday nights with the Cubs already 10 games below .500 in early May, probably had a lot more to do with the piss-poor attendance than the bloom being off the rose.
Yeah, we'll see how the intensity is if both of them are sniffing .500 or better when the series starts.
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 10, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 10, 2015, 01:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Well remember that what Chuck thinks about something is what everyone else thinks. If Chuck doesn't like the NBA and spends all of his time on twitter talking about how he doesn't like the NBA, it's safe to say no one is interested in the NBA. If Chuck doesn't really care about playing the White Sox six times a year, then the intensity is gone, sell out crowds and tv ratings be damned.
They aren't selling out anymore.
Cubs @ Sox
2014: 21,075; 26,332
2013: 30,631
2012: 33,215; 30,282; 32,311
2011: 36,005; 35,155; 35,403
2010: 39,364; 39,479; 39,682
That's a pretty steep and steady five year trend. Now, maybe it's because both teams have been poor the last two years, but in 2012, the Sox were an 85 win team.
Let's see what happens this year, but I'd guess they reverse last year's awful awful showing, but do no better than 2012 levels. Which would be 80% of tickets sold.
Pretty sure running the games in back-to-back two game series last year, with the Sox home games on Wednesday and Thursday nights with the Cubs already 10 games below .500 in early May, probably had a lot more to do with the piss-poor attendance than the bloom being off the rose.
Yeah, we'll see how the intensity is if both of them are sniffing .500 or better when the series starts.
Could see a big influx of Cubs fans if A) Wrigley is still a disaster and fans want to go to a decent place to see them play; and B) by mid-August, the Cubs could be very very interesting.
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Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 10, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 10, 2015, 01:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 10, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Well remember that what Chuck thinks about something is what everyone else thinks. If Chuck doesn't like the NBA and spends all of his time on twitter talking about how he doesn't like the NBA, it's safe to say no one is interested in the NBA. If Chuck doesn't really care about playing the White Sox six times a year, then the intensity is gone, sell out crowds and tv ratings be damned.
They aren't selling out anymore.
Cubs @ Sox
2014: 21,075; 26,332
2013: 30,631
2012: 33,215; 30,282; 32,311
2011: 36,005; 35,155; 35,403
2010: 39,364; 39,479; 39,682
That's a pretty steep and steady five year trend. Now, maybe it's because both teams have been poor the last two years, but in 2012, the Sox were an 85 win team.
Let's see what happens this year, but I'd guess they reverse last year's awful awful showing, but do no better than 2012 levels. Which would be 80% of tickets sold.
Pretty sure running the games in back-to-back two game series last year, with the Sox home games on Wednesday and Thursday nights with the Cubs already 10 games below .500 in early May, probably had a lot more to do with the piss-poor attendance than the bloom being off the rose.
Yeah, we'll see how the intensity is if both of them are sniffing .500 or better when the series starts.
Could see a big influx of Cubs fans if A) Wrigley is still a disaster and fans want to go to a decent place to see them play; and B) by mid-August, the Cubs could be very very interesting. Kris Bryant is playing
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Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
It'll be fun to track them this year because they have a) Abreu who is truly a monster and b) Sale who is truly an ace.
C) They don't have much else (many will say their rotation is actually really good and maybe it is but I don't care)
So when they play middling ball for the majority of the year or have one of those typical Sox losing streaks where they average 3 errors a game I'm just gonna be laughing. Because even if the Cubs end up middling themselves, this is hardly The Year. It's A Year, the first of many.
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans, of which I know two very mild-mannered ones), but I've kind of decided to root against them because of the Sun Times angle that the White Sox are somehow the better of the two franchises because they've sucked while throwing money at problems the last few years while the Cubs have sucked without the money-throwing. Also that weird thing last year where Theo and Co. got criticized for not going after Abreu while they had their own 5 WAR first baseman tearing shit up.
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
I welcome you to the Sox Hatewagon and in turn look forward to pulling for your Royals. I've always pulled for any team in the Sox' division that's a threat to them and the Royals suddenly fit that bill again for the first time since the second Reagan administration. Great fucking start to the season--I couldn't be happier. Go Royals.
*throws on Mark Gubicza jersey*
*throws on Kid Rock jersey*
*dons Drew Carey glasses*
*snorts Paul Molitor's cocaine*
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 05:42:13 PM
Looks like the White Sox are 0-for-$9.8 million, Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo and Josh Phegley with that Samardzija acquisition.
It'll be fun to track them this year because they have a) Abreu who is truly a monster and b) Sale who is truly an ace.
C) They don't have much else (many will say their rotation is actually really good and maybe it is but I don't care)
So when they play middling ball for the majority of the year or have one of those typical Sox losing streaks where they average 3 errors a game I'm just gonna be laughing. Because even if the Cubs end up middling themselves, this is hardly The Year. It's A Year, the first of many.
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans, of which I know two very mild-mannered ones), but I've kind of decided to root against them because of the Sun Times angle that the White Sox are somehow the better of the two franchises because they've sucked while throwing money at problems the last few years while the Cubs have sucked without the money-throwing. Also that weird thing last year where Theo and Co. got criticized for not going after Abreu while they had their own 5 WAR first baseman tearing shit up.
Also given my new geographic proximity to them and the fact that I get every damn one of their games on TV vs. like 1 in 4 Cubs games I've joined TEC and Eli as a part-time Royals fans, so fuck the Sox.
I welcome you to the Sox Hatewagon and in turn look forward to pulling for your Royals. I've always pulled for any team in the Sox' division that's a threat to them and the Royals suddenly fit that bill again for the first time since the second Reagan administration. Great fucking start to the season--I couldn't be happier. Go Royals.
*throws on Mark Gubicza jersey*
*throws on Kid Rock jersey*
*dons Drew Carey glasses*
*snorts Paul Molitor's cocaine*
*sexually assaults woman in suburban Minneapolis restaurant bathroom*
ha-buuuuuuuuump
A former football player, Jeff Samardzija feeds off the energy of the crowd. That's why he's already given up six runs in an inning at an empty stadium.
Okay I don't hate the White Sox like some of y'all do but this is pretty amusing.
6 game win streak! Over .500! Op Eds being written about the TWO contending Chicago baseball teams!
A week later they're four games under again, in what I'm pretty sure is the toughest division in the entire game. They're boned.
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
Okay I don't hate the White Sox like some of y'all do but this is pretty amusing.
6 game win streak! Over .500! Op Eds being written about the TWO contending Chicago baseball teams!
A week later they're four games under again, in what I'm pretty sure is the toughest division in the entire game. They're boned.
*warms hands over Sox dumpster fire*
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
Okay I don't hate the White Sox like some of y'all do but this is pretty amusing.
6 game win streak! Over .500! Op Eds being written about the TWO contending Chicago baseball teams!
A week later they're four games under again, in what I'm pretty sure is the toughest division in the entire game. They're boned.
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
If Rick Hahn was any good at his job, he'd be trading David Robertson fast. He'd look pretty good 8 miles north.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
Okay I don't hate the White Sox like some of y'all do but this is pretty amusing.
6 game win streak! Over .500! Op Eds being written about the TWO contending Chicago baseball teams!
A week later they're four games under again, in what I'm pretty sure is the toughest division in the entire game. They're boned.
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
If Rick Hahn was any good at his job, he'd be trading David Robertson fast. He'd look pretty good 8 miles north.
Maybe if it were up to Rick Hahn, but I'm guessing fans and ownership would be awfully mad if he gave up on the season in May after a huge spending spree. They're six back in the wildcard, which is obviously bad but still striking distance this time of year, so I'm sure they'll give it another month.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
Wait, are you implying that a 3.71 FIP and 1.25 WHIP are bad?
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
Wait, are you implying that a 3.71 FIP and 1.25 WHIP are bad?
I think the question is whether it would be worth a $100 million contract?
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
Wait, are you implying that a 3.71 FIP and 1.25 WHIP are bad?
I think the question is whether it would be worth a $100 million contract?
It's not too far out of line with his last three years as a starter (3.50 FIP and 1.21 WHIP). It's hard to predict free agent contracts, but another season like that probably would get him pretty close to $100 million, especially if his ERA normalizes a bit to match his peripherals.
He's a year older than Cueto, Zimmermann and Price (who will all get bigger contracts), but he also has less mileage on his arm and a pretty clean injury history.
And if he
doesn't get anywhere near $100 million, I sure hope the Cubs are the team signing him.
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
Wait, are you implying that a 3.71 FIP and 1.25 WHIP are bad?
I think the question is whether it would be worth a $100 million contract?
It's not too far out of line with his last three years as a starter (3.50 FIP and 1.21 WHIP). It's hard to predict free agent contracts, but another season like that probably would get him pretty close to $100 million, especially if his ERA normalizes a bit to match his peripherals.
He's a year older than Cueto, Zimmermann and Price (who will all get bigger contracts), but he also has less mileage on his arm and a pretty clean injury history.
And if he doesn't get anywhere near $100 million, I sure hope the Cubs are the team signing him.
Yeah but who cares the Sox are bad and I love it.
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
Wait, are you implying that a 3.71 FIP and 1.25 WHIP are bad?
I think the question is whether it would be worth a $100 million contract?
Well Jon Lester has a career whip of 1.277 and a career FIP of 3.58 and he got $155 million, so I'm going with....yes, yes it is.
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 09:21:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
Wait, are you implying that a 3.71 FIP and 1.25 WHIP are bad?
I think the question is whether it would be worth a $100 million contract?
It's not too far out of line with his last three years as a starter (3.50 FIP and 1.21 WHIP). It's hard to predict free agent contracts, but another season like that probably would get him pretty close to $100 million, especially if his ERA normalizes a bit to match his peripherals.
He's a year older than Cueto, Zimmermann and Price (who will all get bigger contracts), but he also has less mileage on his arm and a pretty clean injury history.
And if he doesn't get anywhere near $100 million, I sure hope the Cubs are the team signing him.
Yeah but who cares the Sox are bad and I love it.
This.
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 09:22:04 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
Wait, are you implying that a 3.71 FIP and 1.25 WHIP are bad?
I think the question is whether it would be worth a $100 million contract?
Well Jon Lester has a career whip of 1.277 and a career FIP of 3.58 and he got $155 million, so I'm going with....yes, yes it is.
Jon Lester is a PROVEN WINNER. Regardless of what you think about team accomplishments that kind of crap gets people paid.
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
And if he doesn't get anywhere near $100 million, I sure hope the Cubs are the team signing him.
I want nothing to do with that guy ever again. Well, Bryant and Rizzo can tee off him 300 times per year, I suppose.
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 09:22:04 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Samardzija: ERA+: 92. FIP: 3.71. WHIP: 1.246. Yeah, that's going to get him $100 million.
Wait, are you implying that a 3.71 FIP and 1.25 WHIP are bad?
I think the question is whether it would be worth a $100 million contract?
Well Jon Lester has a career whip of 1.277 and a career FIP of 3.58 and he got $155 million, so I'm going with....yes, yes it is.
Jon Lester is a PROVEN WINNER. Regardless of what you think about team accomplishments that kind of crap gets people paid.
He's also a really good pitcher and I kinda think Snork is a pretty good pitcher and if he came back to the Cubs for 4 years and 80 million or whatever I'd be both pretty happy with it and also happy that it will apparently piss off Chuck to no end.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:24:13 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
And if he doesn't get anywhere near $100 million, I sure hope the Cubs are the team signing him.
I want nothing to do with that guy ever again.
I can't fully blame you. But he's still appealing because of the reasons I mentioned earlier.
For all of talk of waiting around to grab a FA pitcher, I'm not all that pumped about the Cubs diving into that market. Price is going to get a ridiculous contract, like 8 years and $225 million or something, and the idea of having almost $400 million tied up between two aging pitchers is terrifying. Zimmermann has already had TJS and his velo is weirdly down this year. Cueto has a pretty checkered injury history and has to go at max effort all the time because he's 5-foot-8 or whatever, so I don't like his odds of holding up over a 5 or 6 year contract.
TL;DR, this is why I'm OK trading prospects for Hamels and his short, reasonable deal.
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:40:50 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:24:13 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
And if he doesn't get anywhere near $100 million, I sure hope the Cubs are the team signing him.
I want nothing to do with that guy ever again.
I can't fully blame you. But he's still appealing because of the reasons I mentioned earlier.
For all of talk of waiting around to grab a FA pitcher, I'm not all that pumped about the Cubs diving into that market. Price is going to get a ridiculous contract, like 8 years and $225 million or something, and the idea of having almost $400 million tied up between two aging pitchers is terrifying. Zimmermann has already had TJS and his velo is weirdly down this year. Cueto has a pretty checkered injury history and has to go at max effort all the time because he's 5-foot-8 or whatever, so I don't like his odds of holding up over a 5 or 6 year contract.
TL;DR, this is why I'm OK trading prospects for Hamels and his short, reasonable deal.
Or Kazmir.
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:40:50 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2015, 09:24:13 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
And if he doesn't get anywhere near $100 million, I sure hope the Cubs are the team signing him.
I want nothing to do with that guy ever again.
I can't fully blame you. But he's still appealing because of the reasons I mentioned earlier.
For all of talk of waiting around to grab a FA pitcher, I'm not all that pumped about the Cubs diving into that market. Price is going to get a ridiculous contract, like 8 years and $225 million or something, and the idea of having almost $400 million tied up between two aging pitchers is terrifying. Zimmermann has already had TJS and his velo is weirdly down this year. Cueto has a pretty checkered injury history and has to go at max effort all the time because he's 5-foot-8 or whatever, so I don't like his odds of holding up over a 5 or 6 year contract.
TL;DR, this is why I'm OK trading prospects for Hamels and his short, reasonable deal.
All that AND because you really need to use the prospects for something. They won't all make it and they don't have positions for all of them.
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I
think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
Not 1. I'd forgotten 2 (I was glad when he turned them down). A lot of 3. Not 4.
I'd rather see the dollars spent elsewhere.
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 27, 2015, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 27, 2015, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 27, 2015, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
And I don't see why he'd come back here on a "good" contract when he wasn't willing to sign a team-friendly deal to begin with. As Snork-like as he's been so far, I still think somebody somewhere is going to throw dumber money than the Cubs will want to pay.
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 27, 2015, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
I always thought that was well known. It's pretty typical to grow up a Sox fan in Paul country.
I feel like there's a section of the fanbase that likes him too much. Similar to the love for Dempster. And that bugs me, so I don't like him anymore.
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2015, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 27, 2015, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
I always thought that was well known. It's pretty typical to grow up a Sox fan in Paul country.
I feel like there's a section of the fanbase that likes him too much. Similar to the love for Dempster. And that bugs me, so I don't like him anymore.
I find this totally reasonable and it's the kind of hate we should promote around here.
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2015, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 27, 2015, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
I always thought that was well known. It's pretty typical to grow up a Sox fan in Paul country.
I feel like there's a section of the fanbase that likes him too much. Similar to the love for Dempster. And that bugs me, so I don't like him anymore.
Honestly, if he'll come in and throw 200 innings of 3.50 ERA ball, I don't care if he's the love child of Dempster and Hawk Harrelson, he's welcome on the Cubs as far as I'm concerned. Peck's right, though: he'll be worth more to somebody else than he is to Epstink and Hoyer. His loss: whomever he signs for, he's going to spend the rest of his career getting his arse kicked by Rizzo, Bryant and Soler.
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2015, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 27, 2015, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
I always thought that was well known. It's pretty typical to grow up a Sox fan in Paul country.
I feel like there's a section of the fanbase that likes him too much. Similar to the love for Dempster. And that bugs me, so I don't like him anymore.
Honestly, if he'll come in and throw 200 innings of 3.50 ERA ball, I don't care if he's the love child of Dempster and Hawk Harrelson, he's welcome on the Cubs as far as I'm concerned. Peck's right, though: he'll be worth more to somebody else than he is to Epstink and Hoyer. His loss: whomever he signs for, he's going to spend the rest of his career getting his arse kicked by Rizzo, Bryant and Soler.
Way to snub Addison Russell, Tonk.
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2015, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2015, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 27, 2015, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 27, 2015, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 27, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
I always thought that was well known. It's pretty typical to grow up a Sox fan in Paul country.
I feel like there's a section of the fanbase that likes him too much. Similar to the love for Dempster. And that bugs me, so I don't like him anymore.
Honestly, if he'll come in and throw 200 innings of 3.50 ERA ball, I don't care if he's the love child of Dempster and Hawk Harrelson, he's welcome on the Cubs as far as I'm concerned. Peck's right, though: he'll be worth more to somebody else than he is to Epstink and Hoyer. His loss: whomever he signs for, he's going to spend the rest of his career getting his arse kicked by Rizzo, Bryant and Soler.
Way to snub Addison Russell, Tonk.
Tonk just figures Russell will die of a heart attack before then because he's too fat.
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I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
I always thought that was well known. It's pretty typical to grow up a Sox fan in Paul country.
I feel like there's a section of the fanbase that likes him too much. Similar to the love for Dempster. And that bugs me, so I don't like him anymore.
Honestly, if he'll come in and throw 200 innings of 3.50 ERA ball, I don't care if he's the love child of Dempster and Hawk Harrelson, he's welcome on the Cubs as far as I'm concerned. Peck's right, though: he'll be worth more to somebody else than he is to Epstink and Hoyer. His loss: whomever he signs for, he's going to spend the rest of his career getting his arse kicked by Rizzo, Bryant and Soler.
Way to snub Addison Russell, Tonk.
He was next on my list and I did consider including him, but, you know... rule of threes, and all that.
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I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
I always thought that was well known. It's pretty typical to grow up a Sox fan in Paul country.
I feel like there's a section of the fanbase that likes him too much. Similar to the love for Dempster. And that bugs me, so I don't like him anymore.
Honestly, if he'll come in and throw 200 innings of 3.50 ERA ball, I don't care if he's the love child of Dempster and Hawk Harrelson, he's welcome on the Cubs as far as I'm concerned. Peck's right, though: he'll be worth more to somebody else than he is to Epstink and Hoyer. His loss: whomever he signs for, he's going to spend the rest of his career getting his arse kicked by Rizzo, Bryant and Soler.
Way to snub Addison Russell, Tonk.
Tonk just figures Russell will die of a heart attack before then because he's too fat.
Russell's no Baez. Having said that, it wouldn't kill him to eat a fucking salad once in a while, either.
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I'll take Samardzija back on a good deal in a heartbeat.
Me too - slot him at number 3 behind Lester and Arrieta. Lovely job.
I'm not quite sure what he's done to upset Internet Chuck so badly.
I think, and lord knows I hate to travel down the Chuckian Path too far, the reasons I've seen for hating Snork are as listed:
1)Notre Dame
2)He seemed rather upset with all of the losing and was hesitant to sign an extension, so I guess we hate him like we hate all of the other people too short-sighted to see the plan, even though in the long run we may end up with him back on the team whilst pitching in front of Addison Russell as a reward for him not signing that extension.
3)Some people never quite bought into him being good because of how shitty he was for those first few years?
4)Some people hate the Cubs fans who bitched and moaned about trading him so much that they now hope Snork sucks so as to have a reason to point and say "see!" to those Cubs fans.
5)He's now a White Sox player and thus a "trader" as our friends in Missourah would say.
I don't know specifically which of these reasons applies to Chuck, probably a combination of several. All of them are fairly stupid, though.
None of them are stupid.
For once I'd like allow myself to be extra dumb enough to say that when he said he'd always been a Sox fan that made me hope he has the shittiest season ever and dies under an empty train car unloved.
I somehow missed him saying that. The hate is more reasonable in these circumstances, yes.
I always thought that was well known. It's pretty typical to grow up a Sox fan in Paul country.
I feel like there's a section of the fanbase that likes him too much. Similar to the love for Dempster. And that bugs me, so I don't like him anymore.
Honestly, if he'll come in and throw 200 innings of 3.50 ERA ball, I don't care if he's the love child of Dempster and Hawk Harrelson, he's welcome on the Cubs as far as I'm concerned. Peck's right, though: he'll be worth more to somebody else than he is to Epstink and Hoyer. His loss: whomever he signs for, he's going to spend the rest of his career getting his arse kicked by Rizzo, Bryant and Soler.
Way to snub Addison Russell, Tonk.
Tonk just figures Russell will die of a heart attack before then because he's too fat.
Russell's no Baez. Having said that, it wouldn't kill him to eat a fucking salad once in a while, either.
Russell is actually the same height and 10 lbs heavier than Baez, per their B-R pages.
I will never unlock the FIREBARN and let Snork out. Shame on any of you that can't see that hating him is sweet and pure and perfect and holy.
Tom Fornelli was tweeting about how this year's Sox are on pace for the lowest team OPS (.654) since they had a team OPS of .595 in 1968.
Looking at some of the individual numbers I didn't realize just how anemic they were offensively. It's amazing they're only 2 games under. Their pythagorean win-loss is 24-34.
They've got just 3 regulars with an OPS+ over 100 (Abreu, LaRoche, Garcia). Three of their regular starters (Tyler Flowers, Alexei Ramirez, and Melky) have OPS+ under 63. Melky alone has a .536 OPS and a 55 OPS+. Injuries have meant they've regularly had to use Emilio Bonifacio (.397 OPS, 15 OPS+) and Carlos Sanchez (.409 OPS, 19 OPS+). Woof.
I am legitimately fascinated by how bad their offense has been. They're team OPS has now dropped to .638. They're like an entire team of Jonathan Herreras.
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 11:27:06 AM
I am legitimately fascinated by how bad their offense has been. They're team OPS has now dropped to .638. They're like an entire team of Jonathan Herreras.
Incredibly, they're actually four games ahead of their X_WL: they're at 28-36 and by rights they should be closer to 24-40. They're really,
really fucking shitty. Heh.
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I am legitimately fascinated by how bad their offense has been. They're team OPS has now dropped to .638. They're like an entire team of Jonathan Herreras.
Incredibly, they're actually four games ahead of their X_WL: they're at 28-36 and by rights they should be closer to 24-40. They're really, really fucking shitty. Heh.
I remember feeling a little jealous of the Melky signing, thinking he'd make a nice stopgap in left, but whoooo boy am I glad that bullet was dodged.
The Cubs still have 6 games to play against the Sox, too.
Holy shit. According to Jeff Sullivan of Fangraphs the five worst teams in terms of batter WAR since 2002:
2004 Diamondbacks (51-111): -0.4
2003 Tigers (43-119): -1.2
2002 Tigers (55-106): -1.3
2013 Marlins(62-100): -1.6
2015 White Sox (28-36): -3.3 and counting.
Would expect them to see some regression to the mean presumably from guys like Alexei and Melky and they'll probably end up being somewhat less awful offensively than that, but good God. Historically awful offense.
Since this thread's been bumped I might as well post this (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fnews%2Fct-danks-sox-lawsuit-fall-20150529-story.html&ei=axSDVfONL8OsogT83YjgDw&usg=AFQjCNFnQrSvCVfVEqaierZKCPG1iGI8xQ&sig2=WNlcxAIX7P1-vU4dgE_TEw&bvm=bv.96041959,bs.1,d.cWw), which was published weeks ago in the Tribune.
I'd be curious to hear what some of the legal eagles (i.e. Hawk & Stew etc.) might say about Danks' case.
I'm sure there are some missing parts (this Blake Pabst guy was the only one doing blow?) but even reading between the lines it seems that Danks acted like some sort of a scared shithead in handling the situation, but at the same time his friend seems like a pretty big fuckup. Awful situation but I can't stop coming back to the notion that Danks--though not liable IMO--must be some kind of a dipshit.
Quote from: PANK! on June 18, 2015, 02:01:52 PM
Since this thread's been bumped I might as well post this (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fnews%2Fct-danks-sox-lawsuit-fall-20150529-story.html&ei=axSDVfONL8OsogT83YjgDw&usg=AFQjCNFnQrSvCVfVEqaierZKCPG1iGI8xQ&sig2=WNlcxAIX7P1-vU4dgE_TEw&bvm=bv.96041959,bs.1,d.cWw), which was published weeks ago in the Tribune.
I'd be curious to hear what some of the legal eagles (i.e. Hawk & Stew etc.) might say about Danks' case.
I'm sure there are some missing parts (this Blake Pabst guy was the only one doing blow?) but even reading between the lines it seems that Danks acted like some sort of a scared shithead in handling the situation, but at the same time his friend seems like a pretty big fuckup. Awful situation but I can't stop coming back to the notion that Danks--though not liable IMO--must be some kind of a dipshit.
I think Danks' counsel should be sanctioned for representing a falsehood to the court, namely, that John has "true talent."
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
He's better than good and would cost a shitload.
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
He's better than good and would cost a shitload.
Dave Cameron on Fangraphs proposed Sale for Schwarber/Baez/Mendy and that would never happen in a million years but I'd shit my pants with glee if it did.
He's not going anywhere though. Team control through 2020 and nobody's gonna pony up what it would cost to get him, surely. I do wonder if they might move Quintana. Snork's obviously gone.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
Quote from: Eli on June 24, 2015, 07:52:31 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
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Quote from: Eli on June 24, 2015, 07:52:31 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
For the sake of discussion: Russell, McKinney, Underwood.
ETA: This still feels light to me from the Sox perspective. But Russell + Schwarber seemed like probably too much. Russell + Baez too redundant. Bryant is presumably off the table. So I'm not sure.
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
For the sake of discussion: Russell, McKinney, Underwood.
ETA: This still feels light to me from the Sox perspective. But Russell + Schwarber seemed like probably too much. Russell + Baez too redundant. Bryant is presumably off the table. So I'm not sure.
This is the thread where we make fun of the Sox not where we discuss trading Addison Russell that thread is up your butt.
Quote from: Eli on June 24, 2015, 10:13:26 PM
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Quote from: Eli on June 24, 2015, 07:52:31 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
For the sake of discussion: Russell, McKinney, Underwood.
ETA: This still feels light to me from the Sox perspective. But Russell + Schwarber seemed like probably too much. Russell + Baez too redundant. Bryant is presumably off the table. So I'm not sure.
If it were me, I'd do that in a heartbeat although ...
1) I really wish Kenny Williams was still pulling the strings. He seemed to love toolsy infielders so Alcantara would've been a perfect third chip instead of McKinney.
2) Wait,
this is Billy McKinney?
(http://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/images-014/headshots/c/cf107e03_mlbam.jpg)
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Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
For the sake of discussion: Russell, McKinney, Underwood.
ETA: This still feels light to me from the Sox perspective. But Russell + Schwarber seemed like probably too much. Russell + Baez too redundant. Bryant is presumably off the table. So I'm not sure.
If it were me, I'd do that in a heartbeat although ...
1) I really wish Kenny Williams was still pulling the strings. He seemed to love toolsy infielders so Alcantara would've been a perfect third chip instead of McKinney.
2) Wait, this is Billy McKinney?
(http://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/images-014/headshots/c/cf107e03_mlbam.jpg)
If Kenny were still in charge, they could swap Starlin for Russell and call it a day. At least that's how I'm fantasizing about it.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2015, 10:47:22 PM
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
For the sake of discussion: Russell, McKinney, Underwood.
ETA: This still feels light to me from the Sox perspective. But Russell + Schwarber seemed like probably too much. Russell + Baez too redundant. Bryant is presumably off the table. So I'm not sure.
If it were me, I'd do that in a heartbeat although ...
You'd do Russell and Schwarber? Or the first, lighter offer?
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 10:44:22 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 24, 2015, 10:13:26 PM
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Quote from: Eli on June 24, 2015, 07:52:31 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
For the sake of discussion: Russell, McKinney, Underwood.
ETA: This still feels light to me from the Sox perspective. But Russell + Schwarber seemed like probably too much. Russell + Baez too redundant. Bryant is presumably off the table. So I'm not sure.
This is the thread where we make fun of the Sox not where we discuss trading Addison Russell that thread is up your butt.
Seriously, can we limit this thread to discussion of the horrific play of the Sox, their cracker broadcaster and fanbbase, and their ballplayers who leave paralyzed friends to die? This talk of dealing Russell and Schwarber for the Machinist is giving me the vapors.
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
For the sake of discussion: Russell, McKinney, Underwood.
ETA: This still feels light to me from the Sox perspective. But Russell + Schwarber seemed like probably too much. Russell + Baez too redundant. Bryant is presumably off the table. So I'm not sure.
This is the thread where we make fun of the Sox not where we discuss trading Addison Russell that thread is up your butt.
I think the main point was to squash the idea that Chris Sale is merely "good" and that the primary benefit of trading for him would be for yuks.
Quote from: Eli on June 25, 2015, 09:39:02 AM
I think the main point was to squash the idea that Chris Sale is merely "good" and that the primary benefit of trading for him would be for yuks.
That was fine, but you went too far. TOO FAR.
Addison for Sale would probably be worth it but it's not going to happen and I love him too much so stop it.
Back to laughing at the Sox and not trading away Barry Larkin-esque franchise cornerstones...Adam Hoge of The Score (I think he's back with The Score) yesterday was ranting about Alexei Ramirez errors and Adam Eaton hustle and demanding they be held "accountable" and I'm still laughing as to what he thinks benching either of those will do for the Sox. You really want more of Emilio Bonifacio and his 4(!!) OPS+ out there? Would that make you feel better?
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
Back to laughing at the Sox and not trading away Barry Larkin-esque franchise cornerstones...Adam Hoge of The Score (I think he's back with The Score) yesterday was ranting about Alexei Ramirez errors and Adam Eaton hustle and demanding they be held "accountable" and I'm still laughing as to what he thinks benching either of those will do for the Sox. You really want more of Emilio Bonifacio and his 4(!!) OPS+ out there? Would that make you feel better?
Schadenfreude. It's what's for dinner.
*takes big bite*
Quote from: PANK! on June 25, 2015, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
Back to laughing at the Sox and not trading away Barry Larkin-esque franchise cornerstones...Adam Hoge of The Score (I think he's back with The Score) yesterday was ranting about Alexei Ramirez errors and Adam Eaton hustle and demanding they be held "accountable" and I'm still laughing as to what he thinks benching either of those will do for the Sox. You really want more of Emilio Bonifacio and his 4(!!) OPS+ out there? Would that make you feel better?
Schadenfreude. It's what's for dinner.
*takes big bite*
Yes, this is very interesting stuff.
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
Back to laughing at the Sox and not trading away Barry Larkin-esque franchise cornerstones...Adam Hoge of The Score (I think he's back with The Score) yesterday was ranting about Alexei Ramirez errors and Adam Eaton hustle and demanding they be held "accountable" and I'm still laughing as to what he thinks benching either of those will do for the Sox. You really want more of Emilio Bonifacio and his 4(!!) OPS+ out there? Would that make you feel better?
One of the things that I have always appreciated is the attitude of Northside fans toward the team on the Southside and its fans. It isn't exactly disdain. It is more like apathy. "They are there. So what?" On the other hand, the Southsiders live to hate the Cubs and their fans. I think that if they had the choice of seeing their team win the World Series or see the Cubs in dismal last place many of them would choose the latter.
If the Cubs win, I celebrate. If they lose, I grieve. What goes on with those other folks doesn't make or destroy my day.
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 24, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 24, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
This dumpster fire is really, really amusing. They can't even win when Sale is pitching.
If the Sox decide to completely back the truck up, I'd enjoy it if the Cubs got Sale. He's a good pitcher, but mainly for the yuks.
The Cubs would have to give up Russell and then some.
It might be worth it. What's the "some"?
For the sake of discussion: Russell, McKinney, Underwood.
ETA: This still feels light to me from the Sox perspective. But Russell + Schwarber seemed like probably too much. Russell + Baez too redundant. Bryant is presumably off the table. So I'm not sure.
If it were me, I'd do that in a heartbeat although ...
You'd do Russell and Schwarber? Or the first, lighter offer?
The one you proposed for sake of discussion...
Back to the Schadenfreude: I bet the Sox are glad that their big free agent signing was David Robertson. Hard to imagine where that team would be without an Elite Closer® in the bullpen to lock down all those save opportunities.
Quote from: CBStew on June 25, 2015, 11:42:14 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
Back to laughing at the Sox and not trading away Barry Larkin-esque franchise cornerstones...Adam Hoge of The Score (I think he's back with The Score) yesterday was ranting about Alexei Ramirez errors and Adam Eaton hustle and demanding they be held "accountable" and I'm still laughing as to what he thinks benching either of those will do for the Sox. You really want more of Emilio Bonifacio and his 4(!!) OPS+ out there? Would that make you feel better?
One of the things that I have always appreciated is the attitude of Northside fans toward the team on the Southside and its fans. It isn't exactly disdain. It is more like apathy. "They are there. So what?" On the other hand, the Southsiders live to hate the Cubs and their fans. I think that if they had the choice of seeing their team win the World Series or see the Cubs in dismal last place many of them would choose the latter.
If the Cubs win, I celebrate. If they lose, I grieve. What goes on with those other folks doesn't make or destroy my day.
I think as many Cub fans hate the Sox as Sox fans hate the Cubs. Most of the time I don't really care what's happening there. I am legitimately surprised by how bad that team is and their historically woeful offense is amusing to me just as a "wow how the fuck are they this bad?" kind of thing.
The only reason I'm enjoying this particular White Sox team's shitty season is because of how the Sox and the money they spent over the offseason and what not was held up as some kind of paragon of the Right Way To Do Things in the arguments of various beat writers with agendas.
TL;DR: this is the internet and it's made for hating random things, often without any logic, so leave the hate thread be if you ain't feel like hatin'.
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2015, 12:10:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 25, 2015, 11:42:14 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
Back to laughing at the Sox and not trading away Barry Larkin-esque franchise cornerstones...Adam Hoge of The Score (I think he's back with The Score) yesterday was ranting about Alexei Ramirez errors and Adam Eaton hustle and demanding they be held "accountable" and I'm still laughing as to what he thinks benching either of those will do for the Sox. You really want more of Emilio Bonifacio and his 4(!!) OPS+ out there? Would that make you feel better?
One of the things that I have always appreciated is the attitude of Northside fans toward the team on the Southside and its fans. It isn't exactly disdain. It is more like apathy. "They are there. So what?" On the other hand, the Southsiders live to hate the Cubs and their fans. I think that if they had the choice of seeing their team win the World Series or see the Cubs in dismal last place many of them would choose the latter.
If the Cubs win, I celebrate. If they lose, I grieve. What goes on with those other folks doesn't make or destroy my day.
I think as many Cub fans hate the Sox as Sox fans hate the Cubs. Most of the time I don't really care what's happening there. I am legitimately surprised by how bad that team is and their historically woeful offense is amusing to me just as a "wow how the fuck are they this bad?" kind of thing.
The only reason I'm enjoying this particular White Sox team's shitty season is because of how the Sox and the money they spent over the offseason and what not was held up as some kind of paragon of the Right Way To Do Things in the arguments of various beat writers with agendas.
TL;DR: this is the internet and it's made for hating random things, often without any logic, so leave the hate thread be if you ain't feel like hatin'.
I was deeply offended that their trade for Snork stole away some of the Cubs' Lester thunder. I couldn't really argue that the moves made them better because Adam LaRoche is better than Adam Dunn and Meh-lky Cabrera is better than the jerk circus they had. But man, it was all this talk about two good teams in Chicago, and what a fun summer this will be with both teams possibly in contention. They never doubted it. I didn't want to predict that it would all come crashing down, because I didn't know. But deep down, I thought, "meh" about every single move they made except for Snork, which legitimately pissed me off. Because fuck Snork. Hard.
I'm a little pissed that their record isn't as bad as it should be. They're going to lose a lot of damn games. I promise you I didn't used to care but I do now. I fucking care.
Snork is on the market, but what will he fetch? I can't imagine anyone overpaying him. And he's almost certainly gone, robbing Sox fans of the joy of claiming that at least they got a draft pick for him. Meanwhile, the A's received a 24-year-old starting middle infielder with a 1.3 WAR, a backup catcher with an OPS north of .900 (surely better than Flowers and Soto), a middling AAAA pitcher and a Cuban first baseman who has been injured all year.
Put another way, look at it as a 4-way trade among the Sox, Cubs, Astros and Oakland:
Cubs get: Addison Russell, Billy McKinney, Dexter Fowler, cash, Jason Hammel.
Astros get: Dan Straily, Luis Valbuena
Oakland gets: Marcus Semien, Josh Phlegley, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo, 2 months of Jeff Samardzija (in 2014) and 2 months of Jason Hammel (in 2014).
White Sox get: Michael Ynoa and Jeff Samardzija.
In short, Rick Hahn bailed Billy Beane out.
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2015, 01:04:52 PM
Snork is on the market, but what will he fetch? I can't imagine anyone overpaying him. And he's almost certainly gone, robbing Sox fans of the joy of claiming that at least they got a draft pick for him. Meanwhile, the A's received a 24-year-old starting middle infielder with a 1.3 WAR, a backup catcher with an OPS north of .900 (surely better than Flowers and Soto), a middling AAAA pitcher and a Cuban first baseman who has been injured all year.
Put another way, look at it as a 4-way trade among the Sox, Cubs, Astros and Oakland:
Cubs get: Addison Russell, Billy McKinney, Dexter Fowler, cash, Jason Hammel.
Astros get: Dan Straily, Luis Valbuena
Oakland gets: Marcus Semien, Josh Phlegley, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo, 2 months of Jeff Samardzija (in 2014) and 2 months of Jason Hammel (in 2014).
White Sox get: Michael Ynoa and Jeff Samardzija.
In short, Rick Hahn bailed Billy Beane out.
I don't know if you can say the Cubs got Jason Hammel in this deal.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 25, 2015, 12:08:53 AM
If Kenny were still in charge, they could swap Starlin for Russell and call it a day. At least that's how I'm fantasizing about it.
So Kenny would move Russell to short and Starlin to second? That's a weird fantasy.
Quote from: Shooter on June 25, 2015, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 25, 2015, 12:08:53 AM
If Kenny were still in charge, they could swap Starlin for Russell and call it a day. At least that's how I'm fantasizing about it.
So Kenny would move Russell to short and Starlin to second? That's a weird fantasy.
No. They would swap out Russell in the proposed trade earlier in this thread and put Starlin in his place. Done. Deal.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 25, 2015, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2015, 01:04:52 PM
Snork is on the market, but what will he fetch? I can't imagine anyone overpaying him. And he's almost certainly gone, robbing Sox fans of the joy of claiming that at least they got a draft pick for him. Meanwhile, the A's received a 24-year-old starting middle infielder with a 1.3 WAR, a backup catcher with an OPS north of .900 (surely better than Flowers and Soto), a middling AAAA pitcher and a Cuban first baseman who has been injured all year.
Put another way, look at it as a 4-way trade among the Sox, Cubs, Astros and Oakland:
Cubs get: Addison Russell, Billy McKinney, Dexter Fowler, cash, Jason Hammel.
Astros get: Dan Straily, Luis Valbuena
Oakland gets: Marcus Semien, Josh Phlegley, Chris Bassitt, Rangel Ravelo, 2 months of Jeff Samardzija (in 2014) and 2 months of Jason Hammel (in 2014).
White Sox get: Michael Ynoa and Jeff Samardzija.
In short, Rick Hahn bailed Billy Beane out.
I don't know if you can say the Cubs got Jason Hammel in this deal.
You are right. I was looking to see what draft pick Oakland got for Hammel and then found out there was no compensation to Hammel because he was not offfered arbitration.
I learned today my cousin holds a major league record: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ruffcsc01.shtml
QuoteRuffcorn holds the alltime record for the most consecutive seasons with an ERA above 7.00 (no minimum IP). He had five consecutive seasons (which constituted his entire career).
Also:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7831
QuoteNot only did Scott Ruffcorn not win any games over his Major League career, his team lost all 30 Major League games he ever appeared in. That is quite a feat to pitch that many games and never be involved in a victory.....
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 03:31:51 PM
I learned today my cousin holds a major league record: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ruffcsc01.shtml
QuoteRuffcorn holds the alltime record for the most consecutive seasons with an ERA above 7.00 (no minimum IP). He had five consecutive seasons (which constituted his entire career).
Also:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7831
QuoteNot only did Scott Ruffcorn not win any games over his Major League career, his team lost all 30 Major League games he ever appeared in. That is quite a feat to pitch that many games and never be involved in a victory.....
I remember when the Sox
refused to deal Ruffcorn (and James Baldwin) for Tim Belcher.
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 03:31:51 PM
I learned today my cousin holds a major league record: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ruffcsc01.shtml
QuoteRuffcorn holds the alltime record for the most consecutive seasons with an ERA above 7.00 (no minimum IP). He had five consecutive seasons (which constituted his entire career).
Also:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7831
QuoteNot only did Scott Ruffcorn not win any games over his Major League career, his team lost all 30 Major League games he ever appeared in. That is quite a feat to pitch that many games and never be involved in a victory.....
I remember when the Sox refused to deal Ruffcorn (and James Baldwin) for Tim Belcher.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL199706290.shtml. I was nine years old. Scott was starting for the Phillies vs the powerhouse Braves. We all went over to Grandma and Grandpa's house to watch. They were so hopeful, this was probably going to be his last chance after flopping miserably with the White Sox.
First inning he works around an error, gets 2 groundouts and a strikeout. 2nd inning he works 1-2-3. 3rd inning he works around a walk and a hit by pitch. The 4th inning is another 1-2-3. The 5th he works around a walk and a wild pitch.
Holy shit, we said, Scotty is pitching a no hitter against the Braves!
6th inning? Walk, wild pitch, groundout, HBP. He gets pulled despite the no no and the guy that came in after him gave up a home run. Scott's line for that game was a hilarious 5.1 IP, 2 ER, 0 hits, 4 walks, 2 Ks, 2 wild pitches, 2 HBP. It was also the best game he ever had at the major league level.
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 03:31:51 PM
I learned today my cousin holds a major league record: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ruffcsc01.shtml
QuoteRuffcorn holds the alltime record for the most consecutive seasons with an ERA above 7.00 (no minimum IP). He had five consecutive seasons (which constituted his entire career).
Also:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7831
QuoteNot only did Scott Ruffcorn not win any games over his Major League career, his team lost all 30 Major League games he ever appeared in. That is quite a feat to pitch that many games and never be involved in a victory.....
Your cousin wouldn't have any other last name
According to Crasnick the Astros were interested in Snork but couldn't wait around for the Sox to decide they're sellers. That's some Jim Hendry shit right there.
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 01:06:40 PM
According to Crasnick the Astros were interested in Snork but couldn't wait around for the Sox to decide they're sellers. That's some Jim Hendry shit right there.
Bathing in some serious
schadenfreude right now.
Quote from: PANK! on July 23, 2015, 01:07:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 01:06:40 PM
According to Crasnick the Astros were interested in Snork but couldn't wait around for the Sox to decide they're sellers. That's some Jim Hendry shit right there.
Bathing in some serious schadenfreude right now.
We're only seven back in the wildcard, gang!
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 01:06:40 PM
According to Crasnick the Astros were interested in Snork but couldn't wait around for the Sox to decide they're sellers. That's some Jim Hendry shit right there.
That's hilarious. Padres-White Sox is going to make for one hell of an Offseason World Series.
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 01:06:40 PM
According to Crasnick the Astros were interested in Snork but couldn't wait around for the Sox to decide they're sellers. That's some Jim Hendry shit right there.
Rick Hahn: We need to sell. We're awful and we have no farm system. But this whole team in a barn and light it on fire with Samardzija as the match.
Kenny Williams: We can still win this thing. We never stop going for it.
Jerry Reinsdorf: Do what you want. We're selling this fucker the minute my ticker bursts.
MLBTR:
QuoteThe Astros discussed Jeff Samardzija with the White Sox prior to acquiring Scott Kazmir earlier today, tweets Jerry Crasnick of ESPN. The lack of a consummated trade was not due to the fact that the White Sox weren't willing to part ways with Samardzija, a source tells Crasnick (Twitter link), but rather just due to the fact that the Astros deemed Kazmir a better fit.
Right, it's only because the Astros liked Kazmir better and not because the White Sox are delusionally still in the race, "Anonymous Eager Source Who Definitely Does Not Work or Has Ever Worked for the White Sox."
Although ... given the choice, I'd rather have Kazmir. Wait. No. We're making fun of the White Sox here.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 23, 2015, 02:26:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 01:06:40 PM
According to Crasnick the Astros were interested in Snork but couldn't wait around for the Sox to decide they're sellers. That's some Jim Hendry shit right there.
Rick Hahn: We need to sell. We're awful and we have no farm system. But this whole team in a barn and light it on fire with Samardzija as the match.
Kenny Williams: We can still win this thing. We never stop going for it.
Jerry Reinsdorf: Do what you want. We're selling this fucker the minute my ticker bursts.
Muahahahahahahaha! (http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/roll-white-sox-could-add-fridays-deadline)
Quote from: Brownie on July 29, 2015, 09:16:02 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 23, 2015, 02:26:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 01:06:40 PM
According to Crasnick the Astros were interested in Snork but couldn't wait around for the Sox to decide they're sellers. That's some Jim Hendry shit right there.
Rick Hahn: We need to sell. We're awful and we have no farm system. But this whole team in a barn and light it on fire with Samardzija as the match.
Kenny Williams: We can still win this thing. We never stop going for it.
Jerry Reinsdorf: Do what you want. We're selling this fucker the minute my ticker bursts.
Muahahahahahahaha! (http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/roll-white-sox-could-add-fridays-deadline)
QuoteThe White Sox are flipping the script and aggressively pursuing a bat, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports on Twitter. Among the many players they've inquired about, per the report, is Yoenis Cespedes of the Tigers.
lol
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 30, 2015, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 29, 2015, 09:16:02 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 23, 2015, 02:26:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 01:06:40 PM
According to Crasnick the Astros were interested in Snork but couldn't wait around for the Sox to decide they're sellers. That's some Jim Hendry shit right there.
Rick Hahn: We need to sell. We're awful and we have no farm system. But this whole team in a barn and light it on fire with Samardzija as the match.
Kenny Williams: We can still win this thing. We never stop going for it.
Jerry Reinsdorf: Do what you want. We're selling this fucker the minute my ticker bursts.
Muahahahahahahaha! (http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/roll-white-sox-could-add-fridays-deadline)
QuoteThe White Sox are flipping the script and aggressively pursuing a bat, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports on Twitter. Among the many players they've inquired about, per the report, is Yoenis Cespedes of the Tigers.
lol
I'm sure the Tigers will be intersted in a package consisting of one of the Sox top prospects, like
Carlos Rodon, Chris Sale and Carson Fullmer for Yoenis Cespedes and Justin Verlander. You're welcome, Dave Dombrowski.
Quote from: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 02:52:53 PM
Carlos Rodon, Chris Sale and Carson Fullmer for Yoenis Cespedes and Justin Verlander. You're welcome, Dave Dombrowski.
I don't think current year draftees can be traded, so just sub in Quintana for Fullmer and we're good here.
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 02:54:08 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 02:52:53 PM
Carlos Rodon, Chris Sale and Carson Fullmer for Yoenis Cespedes and Justin Verlander. You're welcome, Dave Dombrowski.
I don't think current year draftees can be traded, so just sub in Quintana for Fullmer and we're good here.
Just Trea Turner him.
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Quote from: Slaky on August 05, 2015, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Well I mean I had the gall to tweet an innocuous comment about how keeping Snork was dumb. I've also mocked the Padres hilariously fucked up deadline decisions but not gotten a bunch of YEAH!?!! 1984?!!111111 in response, oddly enough.
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 05, 2015, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Well I mean I had the gall to tweet an innocuous comment about how keeping Snork was dumb. I've also mocked the Padres hilariously fucked up deadline decisions but not gotten a bunch of YEAH!?!! 1984?!!111111 in response, oddly enough.
I don't know, he's not all bad.
https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/628922646885986304
Quote from: CT III on August 05, 2015, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 05, 2015, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Well I mean I had the gall to tweet an innocuous comment about how keeping Snork was dumb. I've also mocked the Padres hilariously fucked up deadline decisions but not gotten a bunch of YEAH!?!! 1984?!!111111 in response, oddly enough.
I don't know, he's not all bad.
https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/628922646885986304
Bears fans like me who blame everything on Jay Cutler really are the worst.
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
Eyes on the prize. Some day, you too will be better for having trolled.
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 09:27:38 AM
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Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Well I mean I had the gall to tweet an innocuous comment about how keeping Snork was dumb. I've also mocked the Padres hilariously fucked up deadline decisions but not gotten a bunch of YEAH!?!! 1984?!!111111 in response, oddly enough.
I don't know, he's not all bad.
https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/628922646885986304
Bears fans like me who blame everything on Jay Cutler really are the worst.
You've been holding me back! HOLDING ME BACK! From what, I have no idea.
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 05, 2015, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 05, 2015, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Well I mean I had the gall to tweet an innocuous comment about how keeping Snork was dumb. I've also mocked the Padres hilariously fucked up deadline decisions but not gotten a bunch of YEAH!?!! 1984?!!111111 in response, oddly enough.
I don't know, he's not all bad.
https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/628922646885986304
Bears fans like me who blame everything on Jay Cutler really are the worst.
If he is not to blame, who is?
Quote from: CBStew on August 05, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 05, 2015, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 05, 2015, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Well I mean I had the gall to tweet an innocuous comment about how keeping Snork was dumb. I've also mocked the Padres hilariously fucked up deadline decisions but not gotten a bunch of YEAH!?!! 1984?!!111111 in response, oddly enough.
I don't know, he's not all bad.
https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/628922646885986304
Bears fans like me who blame everything on Jay Cutler really are the worst.
If he is not to blame, who is?
well as that guy pointed out, clearly I am. I'm sorry. The Bears are my fault, people.
So when are the Bears getting Harbaugh?
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
You almost want to feel sorry for the Sox at times.
Those older than me can relate the White Sox unstable ownership situation from the late 60s until Reinsdorf bought them. They played home games at County Stadium in 1968 and 1969, and might very well have wound up there had Bud Selig not bought the Pilots out of BK at the end of Spring Training 1970. They exiled their team on Channel 32, back when not everyone had UHF attennas, and put them on low power radio stations (that they had a few suburban stations on their network because if you were driving from Waukegan to Evanston to Aurora to Joliet to Calumet City to Michigan City, you probably would have to change the station a half dozen times to listen to the Sox. They got a once-in-a-generation player like Dick Allen in 1972, only to learn that he's a bit of a head case, so his reign on the South Side was very short.
When Bill Veeck bought the team, he really had no resources to own a club, but he did it because the Sox surely were headed elsewhere if he didn't buy them. He instituted rent-a-player, which was good for a moderate run at the AL West title (the Bronx Zoo Yankees would have waxed them in the 1977 ALCS).
Despite having Harry Caray and Jimmy Piersall providing the most provocative call in baseball history, no one watched Sox games and no one attended, unless tickets were $0.98 Steve Dahl was going to show up and blow up a bunch of records at second base between games of a doubleheader. Maybe it was how inaccessible the team was. As soon as everyone got used to Channel 32, the Sox then moved to Channel 44, before going back to Channel 32 and Pay TV. They had no resources, which explains why they replaced Bob Lemon with an over-the-hill Don Kessinger as Player-Manager and then replaced Kessinger with a guy who had no experience (Tony LaRussa), while teams like Detroit and Milwaukee and California and Oakland hired guys like Sparky Anderson, Buck Rodgers, Gene Mauch and Billy Martin.
When Veeck sold to Reinsdorf/Einhorn, the ballpark was decrepit (neglected for at least 20 years if not more), the team was devoid of stars (Harold Baines was just coming up and Chet Lemon was about as good as it got which explained the aggressive signings of Fisk and Niles native Greg Luzinski), the neighborhood was shit (thanks to many policies developed by Sox superfan No. 1 Richard J. Daley and his cadre of machine pols), and two of the most popular names associated with the team were Piersall and Caray, both of whom Reinsdord axed at the end of 1982.
So.... Harry Caray went 7 miles north and broadcast day games on a free TV station that was putting its signal over a satellite, showing scenes from a ballpark almost as old as Comiskey (but better cared for; ironically both ballparks have Veeck's fingerprints all over them), with a team that had better resources and a better plan to win. Seriously.
The White Sox' aggressiveness early on paid dividends. Ron Kittle was lightning in a bottle for a year, and LaMarr Hoyt, Britt Burns, Floyd Bannister and Richard Dotson were a nice rotation (too bad Burns, Bannister and Dotson had injury problems). Fisk, Luzinski and Baines combined with Kittle to form a nice middle of the lineup that they could afford to make Julio Cruz the highest-paid second baseman in baseball (to be a mediocre fielder who struggled to hit .200) and trot the Law brothers (Rudy and Vance) out every day.
The Sox won 99 games, but don't be fooled: the Orioles were a better team. Also, it was a down year for Kansas City and the Angels, and both teams certainly would be back, while the Twins were quietly rebuilding a nice nucleus. The Sox couldn't see that. Instead, they threw a ton of cash at Julio Cruz and signed Tom Seaver to bolster the rotation. World Series, they said. I was in third grade, and it was hard getting mocked by all the Johnny-come-lately Sox fans who were every bit the shtibird in third grade as they are in adulthood. But we all know what happened in 1984.
OK, the Sox buzz had worn off and the Cubs played in the daytime, and there's nothing better to do on a day off than go to Wrigley Field on a hot summer day and watch the likes of Sandberg, Durham, Sutcliffe and Lee Smith and walk around the ballpark and know you can follow the Cubs anywhere because they were ubiquitous on every cable system (and in most hotels). If you were a Sox fan, you were not paying to get ONTV or SportsVision (the precursor to SportsChannel, and SportsVision was a premium channel like HBO). Interestingly, the Hawks and the Sox chose that route, and it served neither team....
...
And then the Sox core got old (as the Cubs core did), and they had to gut. Instead of keeping Roland Hemond in the job, Reinsdorf hired....
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And thus a year of horrible mismanagement occured. The Genius: Fired! Carlton Fisk: told to play left field. Bobby Bonilla: dealt for Jose DeLeon. The Cubs were in the toilet, but the Mets were dominant anyway, and the Cubs had a farm system that nearly rivals today's: Dave Martinez, Rafael Palmeiro, Mark Grace, Jamie Moyer, Greg Maddux, Damon Berryhill, Joe Girardi, etc., etc. Plus, there was talk the Expos' Andre Dawson wanted to come here in 1987.
The Sox were rancid in 1987. The Cubs finished last, but they were not a bad last-place team, hanging in the race until after the All-Star Break. Wrigley was THE place to be in the summer, and there was talk that Harold Washington and Dallas Green were going to come to an agreement to put lights in the ballpark. The White Sox? Who were they? They were awful, they had replaced their garish early-80s uniforms with the most non-descript unis in baseball history, and they were playing hardball with the city and state, planning on moving to St. Pete by 1989. (CT discussed his memories of Clearwater, 1988, a few days ago). If not for Mike Madigan and Jim Thompson railroading the Illinois Sports Facility bill through the General Assmebly, the Sox could be the Rays (and maybe the AL expansion team in 1998 would have been in Chicago. Discuss that).
It was very easy to feel bad for Sox fans up to that point. They could have had the beautiful, historic ballpark, a team watched coast-to-coast by adoring fans, and just about everything the Cubs had. But the franchise had no clue. Reinsdorf brought stability, and as soon as he got his ballpark his organization improved. But still, who outside of Madison St. on the north, Rte. 59 on the West, US 30 to the South and US 421 to the east gives a fuck about the White Sox?
Serious question: Has anyone ever written the definitive "Hawk Runs the Sox" book, oral history, feature story? That should make for some fascinating reading.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 05, 2015, 02:14:35 PM
Serious question: Has anyone ever written the definitive "Hawk Runs the Sox" book, oral history, feature story? That should make for some fascinating reading.
I'd settle for a psychology text that examined Jerry Reinsdorf's weird relationship with everyone he's ever hired.
Thanks, TJ. Most of that is brand new to me.
Is this a good place to revisit in more depth the boondoggle that is New Comiskey? They turned down a ballpark design that would eventually become Camden Yards because it was "too much like Wrigley", then opened their brand-spanking-new ballpark with every possible inch decked out in royal blue...Cubs blue.
Then there was the upper deck debacle, where they had to remove part of the upper deck after determining that nobody would sit in the cheap seats without a Sherpa there to guide them. What a beautiful clusterfuck.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 03:37:22 PM
Is this a good place to revisit in more depth the boondoggle that is New Comiskey?
Then there's the part where the Sox basically pay no rent. For new additions. And keep the revenue (http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/taxpayers-subsidize-white-sox-park/Content?oid=9371315).
QuoteIn 2010 Reinsdorf negotiated a deal with IFSA in which taxpayers paid about $6.9 million to build a restaurant for which the White Sox get to keep all the proceeds—which may be an even sweeter deal than the original one to build the ballpark.
When the Tribune asked why he'd agree to these terms, (former Governor Jim) Thompson replied, "We said to Jerry, 'Jerry, can we have part of the profits?' And he said, no. We said, OK. I've known Jerry for 52 years. He's tough. He's tough."
Corporate Welfare at its finest.
Watch out, Milwaukee. Your governor is trying to give the Bucks a similar deal.
Quote from: Brownie on August 05, 2015, 11:49:05 AM
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It was pointed out, when this image came out (I believe it was on the cover of the Sox pocket schedules as well as various other bits of marketing flotsam), that home plate was upside down. Too bad this is an apparently truncated image.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 03:37:22 PM
Is this a good place to revisit in more depth the boondoggle that is New Comiskey? They turned down a ballpark design that would eventually become Camden Yards because it was "too much like Wrigley", then opened their brand-spanking-new ballpark with every possible inch decked out in royal blue...Cubs blue.
Then there was the upper deck debacle, where they had to remove part of the upper deck after determining that nobody would sit in the cheap seats without a Sherpa there to guide them. What a beautiful clusterfuck.
Comiskey is considered the last of the "big bowl" cookie-cutter ballparks that were all the rage in the 1970's. The next one built after it was Camden, then Jacobs (now Progressive) Field, the Ballpark in Arlington etc. Way to be cutting edge, dipshits.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 05, 2015, 03:14:51 PM
Thanks, TJ. Most of that is brand new to me.
That was, extremely, extremely good. It completely explains in detail why we and everyone else give a shit about the Sox until one of their meth addled street soldiers is yapping about the Cubs in our ear. Even though I feel like we all knew why the Cubs have a big national profile and the Sox don't - that's about as definitive as it gets.
Quote from: PANK! on August 05, 2015, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 03:37:22 PM
Is this a good place to revisit in more depth the boondoggle that is New Comiskey? They turned down a ballpark design that would eventually become Camden Yards because it was "too much like Wrigley", then opened their brand-spanking-new ballpark with every possible inch decked out in royal blue...Cubs blue.
Then there was the upper deck debacle, where they had to remove part of the upper deck after determining that nobody would sit in the cheap seats without a Sherpa there to guide them. What a beautiful clusterfuck.
Comiskey is considered the last of the "big bowl" cookie-cutter ballparks that were all the rage in the 1970's. The next one built after it was Camden, then Jacobs (now Progressive) Field, the Ballpark in Arlington etc. Way to be cutting edge, dipshits.
See that's the thing, Comiskey ISN'T one of the big bowl parks. The cookie cutters were almost all baseball/football multi-use parks built during the 70s and 80s. It's more an oddity than anything else. The first of the wave of baseball-only parks to be built since Kauffman Stadium, but the only one that didn't embrace the retro-classic design. It's just kind of an architectural freak, a weird one of a kind orphan of a baseball stadium.
Quote from: CT III on August 05, 2015, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 05, 2015, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 03:37:22 PM
Is this a good place to revisit in more depth the boondoggle that is New Comiskey? They turned down a ballpark design that would eventually become Camden Yards because it was "too much like Wrigley", then opened their brand-spanking-new ballpark with every possible inch decked out in royal blue...Cubs blue.
Then there was the upper deck debacle, where they had to remove part of the upper deck after determining that nobody would sit in the cheap seats without a Sherpa there to guide them. What a beautiful clusterfuck.
Comiskey is considered the last of the "big bowl" cookie-cutter ballparks that were all the rage in the 1970's. The next one built after it was Camden, then Jacobs (now Progressive) Field, the Ballpark in Arlington etc. Way to be cutting edge, dipshits.
See that's the thing, Comiskey ISN'T one of the big bowl parks. The cookie cutters were almost all baseball/football multi-use parks built during the 70s and 80s. It's more an oddity than anything else. The first of the wave of baseball-only parks to be built since Kauffman Stadium, but the only one that didn't embrace the retro-classic design. It's just kind of an architectural freak, a weird one of a kind orphan of a baseball stadium.
To be fair, it's a hybrid. They took elements of Dodger Stadium and Kauffamn Stadium, but wanted to keep the stands' distance from the action a la the pre-Mt. Davis Oakland Coliseum.
During the Bears seemingly interminable stadium negotiations in the 90s (aside: I give it another 10 years before the Bears agitate for new digs), Mayor Daley suggested the Bears move into Sox Park. (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-10-14/news/9810140256_1_bears-organization-comiskey-park-bears-deal) I can't find the article but I recall reading just prior to the Soldier Field rehab passing in Springfield, that the Sox and city were entertaining a do-over baseball park in the South Loop with the Bears taking over Comiskular.
Quote from: Brownie on August 05, 2015, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 05, 2015, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 05, 2015, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 03:37:22 PM
Is this a good place to revisit in more depth the boondoggle that is New Comiskey? They turned down a ballpark design that would eventually become Camden Yards because it was "too much like Wrigley", then opened their brand-spanking-new ballpark with every possible inch decked out in royal blue...Cubs blue.
Then there was the upper deck debacle, where they had to remove part of the upper deck after determining that nobody would sit in the cheap seats without a Sherpa there to guide them. What a beautiful clusterfuck.
Comiskey is considered the last of the "big bowl" cookie-cutter ballparks that were all the rage in the 1970's. The next one built after it was Camden, then Jacobs (now Progressive) Field, the Ballpark in Arlington etc. Way to be cutting edge, dipshits.
See that's the thing, Comiskey ISN'T one of the big bowl parks. The cookie cutters were almost all baseball/football multi-use parks built during the 70s and 80s. It's more an oddity than anything else. The first of the wave of baseball-only parks to be built since Kauffman Stadium, but the only one that didn't embrace the retro-classic design. It's just kind of an architectural freak, a weird one of a kind orphan of a baseball stadium.
To be fair, it's a hybrid. They took elements of Dodger Stadium and Kauffamn Stadium, but wanted to keep the stands' distance from the action a la the pre-Mt. Davis Oakland Coliseum.
During the Bears seemingly interminable stadium negotiations in the 90s (aside: I give it another 10 years before the Bears agitate for new digs), Mayor Daley suggested the Bears move into Sox Park. (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-10-14/news/9810140256_1_bears-organization-comiskey-park-bears-deal) I can't find the article but I recall reading just prior to the Soldier Field rehab passing in Springfield, that the Sox and city were entertaining a do-over baseball park in the South Loop with the Bears taking over Comiskular.
Would that have passed the NFL's minimum capacity guidelines? I don't think they greenlight any stadium that seats under 50K.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 06, 2015, 08:08:57 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 05, 2015, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 05, 2015, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 05, 2015, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 03:37:22 PM
Is this a good place to revisit in more depth the boondoggle that is New Comiskey? They turned down a ballpark design that would eventually become Camden Yards because it was "too much like Wrigley", then opened their brand-spanking-new ballpark with every possible inch decked out in royal blue...Cubs blue.
Then there was the upper deck debacle, where they had to remove part of the upper deck after determining that nobody would sit in the cheap seats without a Sherpa there to guide them. What a beautiful clusterfuck.
Comiskey is considered the last of the "big bowl" cookie-cutter ballparks that were all the rage in the 1970's. The next one built after it was Camden, then Jacobs (now Progressive) Field, the Ballpark in Arlington etc. Way to be cutting edge, dipshits.
See that's the thing, Comiskey ISN'T one of the big bowl parks. The cookie cutters were almost all baseball/football multi-use parks built during the 70s and 80s. It's more an oddity than anything else. The first of the wave of baseball-only parks to be built since Kauffman Stadium, but the only one that didn't embrace the retro-classic design. It's just kind of an architectural freak, a weird one of a kind orphan of a baseball stadium.
To be fair, it's a hybrid. They took elements of Dodger Stadium and Kauffamn Stadium, but wanted to keep the stands' distance from the action a la the pre-Mt. Davis Oakland Coliseum.
During the Bears seemingly interminable stadium negotiations in the 90s (aside: I give it another 10 years before the Bears agitate for new digs), Mayor Daley suggested the Bears move into Sox Park. (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-10-14/news/9810140256_1_bears-organization-comiskey-park-bears-deal) I can't find the article but I recall reading just prior to the Soldier Field rehab passing in Springfield, that the Sox and city were entertaining a do-over baseball park in the South Loop with the Bears taking over Comiskular.
Would that have passed the NFL's minimum capacity guidelines? I don't think they greenlight any stadium that seats under 50K.
They would probably extend the upper deck all the way around, which would have got them there.
DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
Quote from: Tony on August 06, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
Quote from: Tony on August 06, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
This. I went to exactly one game at Old Comiskey, a Sunday afternoon game with Boston in Sept. 1990. They played just six more games there. I liked it more than I ever imagined I would. Again, it was because they had a horrible organization focused on the wrong things. They've improved the caliber of their organization and their marketing arm, but they lost a generation or two along the way.
I used to go to Sox Park at least twice a year, courtesy of Chicago Public Schools. Plus, I always saved my dough to take my dad to a game on Fathers Day, and the Sox got that game every other year.
I never thought that much about the ballpark, other than the food was better than Wrigley Field. But it was a good time when Veeck owned the team.
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Quote from: Tony on August 06, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
I have to beat Huey to this, but your son must have gotten his MBA in 1989 or 1990, because Randy Johnson was the bait the landed the Montreal Expos the formidable left-hander Mark Langston in June 1989. This almost assured the Expos of winning the NL East, but there Langston sat in the Montreal dugout in September 1989, watching the Cubs dogpile in the middle of Stade Olympique. (Now just imagine the Expos not making the trade and inserting Johnson into a rotation that had a pretty good Ken Hill as well as 22-year-old Pedro in 1994...)
You went to this game (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA199006070.shtml), a 1:30 matinee at Sox Park, followed by this game (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA199006070.shtml), a Ken Howell depantsing of the Cubs offense at Wrigley Field. Ryne Sandberg had the night off, so you saw three Hall of Famers play (Randy Johnson, Carlton Fisk and Andre Dawson), plus certain Hall of Famers Ken Griffey Jr and Edgar Martinez., plus a young, trim Sammy Sosa, not to mention future TV sages John Kruk, Mark Grace and Harold Reynolds, and future legal system victim Lenny Dykstra. (Obviously, Ryne Sandberg and Greg Maddux were in uniform, but for whatever reason Zimmer gave Sandberg the night off).
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DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
I have to beat Huey to this, but your son must have gotten his MBA in 1989 or 1990, because Randy Johnson was the bait the landed the Montreal Expos the formidable left-hander Mark Langston in June 1989. This almost assured the Expos of winning the NL East, but there Langston sat in the Montreal dugout in September 1989, watching the Cubs dogpile in the middle of Stade Olympique. (Now just imagine the Expos not making the trade and inserting Johnson into a rotation that
I have a Canadian brother-in-law who, besides being my go-to hockey expert grew up a big Expos fan and he had no use for Mark Langston, who bolted Montreal as soon as the '89 season ended and he had failed to lead the Expos to the postseason. My BIL always likes to point out Langston's choice quite which was that "pitching in Montreal was like pitching in another country".
Quote from: PANK! on August 06, 2015, 01:01:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2015, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 06, 2015, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 06, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
I have to beat Huey to this, but your son must have gotten his MBA in 1989 or 1990, because Randy Johnson was the bait the landed the Montreal Expos the formidable left-hander Mark Langston in June 1989. This almost assured the Expos of winning the NL East, but there Langston sat in the Montreal dugout in September 1989, watching the Cubs dogpile in the middle of Stade Olympique. (Now just imagine the Expos not making the trade and inserting Johnson into a rotation that
I have a Canadian brother-in-law who, besides being my go-to hockey expert grew up a big Expos fan and he had no use for Mark Langston, who bolted Montreal as soon as the '89 season ended and he had failed to lead the Expos to the postseason. My BIL always likes to point out Langston's choice quite which was that "pitching in Montreal was like pitching in another country".
dick.
Quote from: PANK! on August 06, 2015, 01:01:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2015, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 06, 2015, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 06, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
I have to beat Huey to this, but your son must have gotten his MBA in 1989 or 1990, because Randy Johnson was the bait the landed the Montreal Expos the formidable left-hander Mark Langston in June 1989. This almost assured the Expos of winning the NL East, but there Langston sat in the Montreal dugout in September 1989, watching the Cubs dogpile in the middle of Stade Olympique. (Now just imagine the Expos not making the trade and inserting Johnson into a rotation that
I have a Canadian brother-in-law who, besides being my go-to hockey expert grew up a big Expos fan and he had no use for Mark Langston, who bolted Montreal as soon as the '89 season ended and he had failed to lead the Expos to the postseason. My BIL always likes to point out Langston's choice quite which was that "pitching in Montreal was like pitching in another country".
The whole choice quite?
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 06, 2015, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 06, 2015, 01:01:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2015, 10:50:23 AM
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Quote from: Tony on August 06, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
I have to beat Huey to this, but your son must have gotten his MBA in 1989 or 1990, because Randy Johnson was the bait the landed the Montreal Expos the formidable left-hander Mark Langston in June 1989. This almost assured the Expos of winning the NL East, but there Langston sat in the Montreal dugout in September 1989, watching the Cubs dogpile in the middle of Stade Olympique. (Now just imagine the Expos not making the trade and inserting Johnson into a rotation that
I have a Canadian brother-in-law who, besides being my go-to hockey expert grew up a big Expos fan and he had no use for Mark Langston, who bolted Montreal as soon as the '89 season ended and he had failed to lead the Expos to the postseason. My BIL always likes to point out Langston's choice quite which was that "pitching in Montreal was like pitching in another country".
dick.
Your opinions tends to be similar, if you need any validation from a REAL CANADIAN.
Quote from: PANK! on August 06, 2015, 01:01:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2015, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 06, 2015, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 06, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
I have to beat Huey to this, but your son must have gotten his MBA in 1989 or 1990, because Randy Johnson was the bait the landed the Montreal Expos the formidable left-hander Mark Langston in June 1989. This almost assured the Expos of winning the NL East, but there Langston sat in the Montreal dugout in September 1989, watching the Cubs dogpile in the middle of Stade Olympique. (Now just imagine the Expos not making the trade and inserting Johnson into a rotation that
I have a Canadian brother-in-law who, besides being my go-to hockey expert grew up a big Expos fan and he had no use for Mark Langston, who bolted Montreal as soon as the '89 season ended and he had failed to lead the Expos to the postseason. My BIL always likes to point out Langston's choice quite which was that "pitching in Montreal was like pitching in another country".
The 1990s Expos would have been interesting with Randy Johnson. 1994 was the lost season, but the 1996 club finished two out of the Wild Card behind LA, who wound up getting swept by the Braves (the Cardinals swept the Padres and then had the Braves down 3-1 before losing in 7).
Let's play a little "What If.."
The Expos keep Johnson, he and Pedro form a nice 1-2 combo in 1996, they easily win the Wild Card, and they'd face San Diego in the first round (can't face division rivals in the Divisional Series). Suppose they win that, and maybe the Cards win the Divisional Series 3-1 over Atlanta. Maybe the Expos win their NL Pennant over the Genius' first Cardinal team and then forestall the Yankee$ dynasty by beating them in the 1996 World Series?
Aw, forget it. Johnson spent most of 1996 on the DL with back problems.
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Quote from: PANK! on August 06, 2015, 01:01:43 PM
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DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
I have to beat Huey to this, but your son must have gotten his MBA in 1989 or 1990, because Randy Johnson was the bait the landed the Montreal Expos the formidable left-hander Mark Langston in June 1989. This almost assured the Expos of winning the NL East, but there Langston sat in the Montreal dugout in September 1989, watching the Cubs dogpile in the middle of Stade Olympique. (Now just imagine the Expos not making the trade and inserting Johnson into a rotation that
I have a Canadian brother-in-law who, besides being my go-to hockey expert grew up a big Expos fan and he had no use for Mark Langston, who bolted Montreal as soon as the '89 season ended and he had failed to lead the Expos to the postseason. My BIL always likes to point out Langston's choice quite which was that "pitching in Montreal was like pitching in another country".
dick.
Your opinions tends to be similar, if you need any validation from a REAL CANADIAN.
Come to think of it, he's a regular Hockeenight reader. There have been conversations at get togethers in which he'll ask if I "read what Hockeenight wrote".
Oh how humiliating.
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DPD... I really regret nto going to old Comiskey more before they tore it down. It was my first game, and I only went there as a really little kid. By the time I was old enough to go to games on my own I was only interested in going to Wrigley and didn't appreciate having two old stadiums in town. I made two trips to Tiger Stadium before they got rid of it, and it was awesome. It was a dump, but it was an awesome dump. I imagine Comiskey was similar. But one was gone before I studied architecture, and the other was gone after. My appreciation for old buildings wasn't there as a bratty teen that only wanted to watch the Cubs.
I was taught that Comiskey was a dump and a disgrace. So when I lived in Chicago as a kid I never went there. It was not until I came to Chicago in 1988 to see my son get his MBA from UC that I finally went to a game at Comiskey. It was a dump and run down, but it was cozy and charming. The food put Wrigley's food to shame. Plus I saw Randy Johnson pitching for Seattle. Then I got back on the El and went to Wrigley for a night game.
I have to beat Huey to this, but your son must have gotten his MBA in 1989 or 1990, because Randy Johnson was the bait the landed the Montreal Expos the formidable left-hander Mark Langston in June 1989. This almost assured the Expos of winning the NL East, but there Langston sat in the Montreal dugout in September 1989, watching the Cubs dogpile in the middle of Stade Olympique. (Now just imagine the Expos not making the trade and inserting Johnson into a rotation that
I have a Canadian brother-in-law who, besides being my go-to hockey expert grew up a big Expos fan and he had no use for Mark Langston, who bolted Montreal as soon as the '89 season ended and he had failed to lead the Expos to the postseason. My BIL always likes to point out Langston's choice quite which was that "pitching in Montreal was like pitching in another country".
The whole choice quite?
These are good posts. Good discussion happening here on the baseball board.
I think the bottom line is, if there was no strike, Montreal would have won the 1994 World Series.
Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2015, 01:18:19 PM
I think the bottom line is, if there was no strike, Montreal would have won the 1994 World Series.
Beating the Sox.
The '94 strike ruined 1 of the likely World Series contenders that year. Too bad it wasn't the other.
And now we're back full circle. Fuck the Sox.
Quote from: PANK! on August 06, 2015, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2015, 01:18:19 PM
I think the bottom line is, if there was no strike, Montreal would have won the 1994 World Series.
Beating the Sox.
The '94 strike ruined 1 of the likely World Series contenders that year. Too bad it wasn't the other.
And now we're back full circle. Fuck the Sox.
I've never understood how Sox fans could so stridently believe(and from personal experience a lot them seem to) that they were a lock to win the '94 World Series. The day that MLB shut down the Sox were 1 game up on a Cleveland Indians team that was blossoming into an absolute juggernaut (they won the Central 6 of the next 7 years) with 69 to play. I don't think its much of a stretch to imagine that Indians team making up a 1 game deficit against a club that was trotting out Darrin Jackson and Ron Karkovice on a daily basis.
Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2015, 01:18:19 PM
I think the bottom line is, if there was no strike, Montreal would have won the 1994 World Series.
And with one or two championships, the Expos would have had a resurgence in attendance allowing the team to continue playing in Montreal. Maybe Loria never sells them and buys the Marlins and the 2003 Cubs win the championship and White Sox fans sit repeatedly and forcefully on their thumbs instead of yapping about 1908 for the last 10 years.
Or at least, the Expos never would've played a few seasons in Puerto Rico where Vladimir Guerrero inspired a 10-11 year old Javier Baez with his free-swinging ways. Baez doesn't become a super-prospect and the Cubs pick the next available middle infielder in the 2011 draft -- Cory Spangenberg.
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I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Thanks to me, Aisle 424, and Eli (who merely retweeted the "Baseball is fun when you have Samardzija" tweet and then the guy's subsequent angry tweets about how much Bryant and Russell suck because batting average) this fellow appears to have protected his account. Heh.
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Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Thanks to me, Aisle 424, and Eli (who merely retweeted the "Baseball is fun when you have Samardzija" tweet and then the guy's subsequent angry tweets about how much Bryant and Russell suck because batting average) this fellow appears to have protected deleted his account. Heh.
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Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Thanks to me, Aisle 424, and Eli (who merely retweeted the "Baseball is fun when you have Samardzija" tweet and then the guy's subsequent angry tweets about how much Bryant and Russell suck because batting average) this fellow appears to have protected deleted his account. Heh.
Ha, last night it was just protected. Fantastic.
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Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Thanks to me, Aisle 424, and Eli (who merely retweeted the "Baseball is fun when you have Samardzija" tweet and then the guy's subsequent angry tweets about how much Bryant and Russell suck because batting average) this fellow appears to have protected deleted his account. Heh.
Ha, last night it was just protected. Fantastic.
It's nice that you got your very own Cigar Mike.
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2015, 12:21:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 10, 2015, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 11:56:24 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 05, 2015, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 05, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 04, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 09, 2015, 02:44:28 PM
I really don't wish the Sox ill (I think that rivalry matters a hell of a lot more if you know actual White Sox fans
Nvm. I take it back. Fuck these people. https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/628750846247833601
Damn fun indeed. (https://twitter.com/Bears4Harbaugh/status/626200511818137600)
He started hounding me after I tweeted "Remember when the White Sox didn't trade Samardzija because they were contenders" while the Sox were getting shelled again for the 4th time in 5 games or whatever, and he responded with REMEMBER 1908 1908 WAS A LONG ASS TIME AGO. It all went downhill from there. I have to assume you locals deal with guys like this in real life on a not infrequent basis, so I get it. I get it. The bastards can rot.
You still need to learn the simple pleasure in breaking Sox fans' balls while not caring about their team...if you get emotionally invested, you can't bask in the glow of their chapped asses.
It's true, I should never have engaged, but jesus.
I also don't get the mentality of denying that your team sucks, although I know that's how many fans operate. When my highly paid team of big free agent acquisitions plays like garbage and sits at 50-55 in August, I lead the charge to say they suck, I don't go around looking for people bashing them on the internet and screaming NUH UH UR TEAM SUX.
That guy's whole feed is about the Cubs. How many Cubs fans are tweeting about the Sox in any capacity?
Thanks to me, Aisle 424, and Eli (who merely retweeted the "Baseball is fun when you have Samardzija" tweet and then the guy's subsequent angry tweets about how much Bryant and Russell suck because batting average) this fellow appears to have protected deleted his account. Heh.
Ha, last night it was just protected. Fantastic.
It's nice that you got your very own Cigar Mike.
It is nice. I feel accomplished. One less asshole screaming "NINETEEN OH EIGHT" at every happy Cubs fan on twitter, which leaves only about 6.7 million more to go.
Also speaking of the Sox, Snork declining that 85 million extension is looking like one of the bigger dodged bullets in Cubs history. Because he said no they ended up with Addison Russell and without that dude's 4.62 ERA, 4.09 xFIP, and rapidly declining K/9 and groundball %.
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Also speaking of the Sox, Snork declining that 85 million extension is looking like one of the bigger dodged bullets in Cubs history. Because he said no they ended up with Addison Russell and without that dude's 4.62 ERA, 4.09 xFIP, and rapidly declining K/9 and groundball %.
Right now, my Sox
schradenfreude is most concentrated in Samardzija. The Cubs sold early and high on him and got a potentially above-average 21 year old SS (and the early returns are certainly not disappointing for Russell) a player that splintered off into Dexter Fowler and another potential above-average prospect in McKinney--and Hammel coming back means that all of this effectively
only cost the Cubs Samardzija (and, to be fair, Valbuena) who--with a year remaining on his contract as he was sold early remember--then fails to elevate the Sox into contention in his contract year as was the hope behind the Sox trading prospects
for him...but does just well enough in just the right number of opportunities to engender false hope that the Sox would compete, rendering them compelled to keep him...probably too long as it turns out as they couldn't sell him early
or late, and may just get a worthless ole' compensation pick for all of their hassle. That's what I'm enjoying.
*warms hands over
schadenfreude fire*
Quote from: PANK! on August 10, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Also speaking of the Sox, Snork declining that 85 million extension is looking like one of the bigger dodged bullets in Cubs history. Because he said no they ended up with Addison Russell and without that dude's 4.62 ERA, 4.09 xFIP, and rapidly declining K/9 and groundball %.
Right now, my Sox schradenfreude is most concentrated in Samardzija. The Cubs sold early and high on him and got a potentially above-average 21 year old SS (and the early returns are certainly not disappointing for Russell) a player that splintered off into Dexter Fowler and another potential above-average prospect in McKinney--and Hammel coming back means that all of this effectively only cost the Cubs Samardzija (and, to be fair, Valbuena) who--with a year remaining on his contract as he was sold early remember--then fails to elevate the Sox into contention in his contract year as was the hope behind the Sox trading prospects for him...but does just well enough in just the right number of opportunities to engender false hope that the Sox would compete, rendering them compelled to keep him...probably too long as it turns out as they couldn't sell him early or late, and may just get a worthless ole' compensation pick for all of their hassle. That's what I'm enjoying.
*warms hands over schadenfreude fire*
That's one hell of a sentence, Al.
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 10, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Also speaking of the Sox, Snork declining that 85 million extension is looking like one of the bigger dodged bullets in Cubs history. Because he said no they ended up with Addison Russell and without that dude's 4.62 ERA, 4.09 xFIP, and rapidly declining K/9 and groundball %.
Right now, my Sox schradenfreude is most concentrated in Samardzija. The Cubs sold early and high on him and got a potentially above-average 21 year old SS (and the early returns are certainly not disappointing for Russell) a player that splintered off into Dexter Fowler and another potential above-average prospect in McKinney--and Hammel coming back means that all of this effectively only cost the Cubs Samardzija (and, to be fair, Valbuena) who--with a year remaining on his contract as he was sold early remember--then fails to elevate the Sox into contention in his contract year as was the hope behind the Sox trading prospects for him...but does just well enough in just the right number of opportunities to engender false hope that the Sox would compete, rendering them compelled to keep him...probably too long as it turns out as they couldn't sell him early or late, and may just get a worthless ole' compensation pick for all of their hassle. That's what I'm enjoying.
*warms hands over schadenfreude fire*
That's one hell of a sentence, Al.
Holy shit.
Also it's entirely possible that if Snork keeps playing like this and the Sox do tag him, no team will give up a decent pick to sign him and he may end up re-signing with the Sox, in which case they forfeit the pick. Giggles.
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 10, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Also speaking of the Sox, Snork declining that 85 million extension is looking like one of the bigger dodged bullets in Cubs history. Because he said no they ended up with Addison Russell and without that dude's 4.62 ERA, 4.09 xFIP, and rapidly declining K/9 and groundball %.
Right now, my Sox schradenfreude is most concentrated in Samardzija. The Cubs sold early and high on him and got a potentially above-average 21 year old SS (and the early returns are certainly not disappointing for Russell) a player that splintered off into Dexter Fowler and another potential above-average prospect in McKinney--and Hammel coming back means that all of this effectively only cost the Cubs Samardzija (and, to be fair, Valbuena) who--with a year remaining on his contract as he was sold early remember--then fails to elevate the Sox into contention in his contract year as was the hope behind the Sox trading prospects for him...but does just well enough in just the right number of opportunities to engender false hope that the Sox would compete, rendering them compelled to keep him...probably too long as it turns out as they couldn't sell him early or late, and may just get a worthless ole' compensation pick for all of their hassle. That's what I'm enjoying.
*warms hands over schadenfreude fire*
That's one hell of a sentence, Al.
Which Cubs hat was PANK wearing at the time?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 10, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 10, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Also speaking of the Sox, Snork declining that 85 million extension is looking like one of the bigger dodged bullets in Cubs history. Because he said no they ended up with Addison Russell and without that dude's 4.62 ERA, 4.09 xFIP, and rapidly declining K/9 and groundball %.
Right now, my Sox schradenfreude is most concentrated in Samardzija. The Cubs sold early and high on him and got a potentially above-average 21 year old SS (and the early returns are certainly not disappointing for Russell) a player that splintered off into Dexter Fowler and another potential above-average prospect in McKinney--and Hammel coming back means that all of this effectively only cost the Cubs Samardzija (and, to be fair, Valbuena) who--with a year remaining on his contract as he was sold early remember--then fails to elevate the Sox into contention in his contract year as was the hope behind the Sox trading prospects for him...but does just well enough in just the right number of opportunities to engender false hope that the Sox would compete, rendering them compelled to keep him...probably too long as it turns out as they couldn't sell him early or late, and may just get a worthless ole' compensation pick for all of their hassle. That's what I'm enjoying.
*warms hands over schadenfreude fire*
That's one hell of a sentence, Al.
Which Cubs hat was PANK wearing at the time?
batting helmet, natch.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 10, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 10, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 10, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Also speaking of the Sox, Snork declining that 85 million extension is looking like one of the bigger dodged bullets in Cubs history. Because he said no they ended up with Addison Russell and without that dude's 4.62 ERA, 4.09 xFIP, and rapidly declining K/9 and groundball %.
Right now, my Sox schradenfreude is most concentrated in Samardzija. The Cubs sold early and high on him and got a potentially above-average 21 year old SS (and the early returns are certainly not disappointing for Russell) a player that splintered off into Dexter Fowler and another potential above-average prospect in McKinney--and Hammel coming back means that all of this effectively only cost the Cubs Samardzija (and, to be fair, Valbuena) who--with a year remaining on his contract as he was sold early remember--then fails to elevate the Sox into contention in his contract year as was the hope behind the Sox trading prospects for him...but does just well enough in just the right number of opportunities to engender false hope that the Sox would compete, rendering them compelled to keep him...probably too long as it turns out as they couldn't sell him early or late, and may just get a worthless ole' compensation pick for all of their hassle. That's what I'm enjoying.
*warms hands over schadenfreude fire*
That's one hell of a sentence, Al.
Which Cubs hat was PANK wearing at the time?
batting tron helmet, natch.
You're even terrible at your own dead horse jokes.
Quote from: Oleg on August 10, 2015, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on August 10, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 10, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 10, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 10, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Also speaking of the Sox, Snork declining that 85 million extension is looking like one of the bigger dodged bullets in Cubs history. Because he said no they ended up with Addison Russell and without that dude's 4.62 ERA, 4.09 xFIP, and rapidly declining K/9 and groundball %.
Right now, my Sox schradenfreude is most concentrated in Samardzija. The Cubs sold early and high on him and got a potentially above-average 21 year old SS (and the early returns are certainly not disappointing for Russell) a player that splintered off into Dexter Fowler and another potential above-average prospect in McKinney--and Hammel coming back means that all of this effectively only cost the Cubs Samardzija (and, to be fair, Valbuena) who--with a year remaining on his contract as he was sold early remember--then fails to elevate the Sox into contention in his contract year as was the hope behind the Sox trading prospects for him...but does just well enough in just the right number of opportunities to engender false hope that the Sox would compete, rendering them compelled to keep him...probably too long as it turns out as they couldn't sell him early or late, and may just get a worthless ole' compensation pick for all of their hassle. That's what I'm enjoying.
*warms hands over schadenfreude fire*
That's one hell of a sentence, Al.
Which Cubs hat was PANK wearing at the time?
batting tron helmet, natch.
You're even terrible at your own dead horse jokes.
There's no such thing as a Cubs Tron Helmet. So this joke, like so many other things, went over your head.
I was perusing Mr. Penderloin's Twitter dot com feed and Slak found this old PAUL SULLIVAN tweet posted shortly after the Cubs got Jake Arrieta:
Quote from: @PWSullivan
Samardzija on O's trade: "I don't think this team improves by trading Scott Feldman."
Classic Shark. I hope the Sox re-sign that meathead and he descends into John Danks-level bad.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 10, 2015, 05:49:27 PM
I was perusing Mr. Penderloin's Twitter dot com feed and Slak found this old PAUL SULLIVAN tweet posted shortly after the Cubs got Jake Arrieta:
Quote from: @PWSullivan
Samardzija on O's trade: "I don't think this team improves by trading Scott Feldman."
Classic Shark. I hope the Sox re-sign that meathead and he descends into John Danks-level bad.
and I hope he becomes their GM after he retires.
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
You really don't know that Steve's Jewish? He always took the Jewish holidays off.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
You really don't know that Steve's Jewish? He always took the Jewish holidays off.
No, I didn't. I don't know why I would have cared.
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
You really don't know that Steve's Jewish? He always took the Jewish holidays off.
No, I didn't. I don't know why I would have cared.
How does tasteful nude photography play with the Christian right?
(http://i25.tinypic.com/333bvur.jpg)
I think the real question in all this should be: Why is Brownie recklessly endangering his health watching White Sox baseball?
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
You really don't know that Steve's Jewish? He always took the Jewish holidays off.
No, I didn't. I don't know why I would have cared.
Steve Stone used to take Yom Kippur Cubs games off. Ken Harrelson, is Greek Orthodox, which probably doesn't fit into the Faith Day framework, either, nor does Ed Farmer's Catholicism. In fact those three religions probably make up a good portion of the White Sox ticket-holding base.
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 06:07:37 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
You really don't know that Steve's Jewish? He always took the Jewish holidays off.
No, I didn't. I don't know why I would have cared.
Steve Stone used to take Yom Kippur Cubs games off. Ken Harrelson, is Greek Orthodox, which probably doesn't fit into the Faith Day framework, either, nor does Ed Farmer's Catholicism. In fact those three religions probably make up a good portion of the White Sox ticket-holding base.
Growing up in Buttpuddle I had no idea what Yom Kippur was except that Steve Stone didn't work that day. "It's a Jewish holy day," my former nun mother told me. And that was that. Later in my childhood I met actual Jews and they worked and went to school on Jewish holidays and I was like wtf.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 06:07:37 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
You really don't know that Steve's Jewish? He always took the Jewish holidays off.
No, I didn't. I don't know why I would have cared.
Steve Stone used to take Yom Kippur Cubs games off. Ken Harrelson, is Greek Orthodox, which probably doesn't fit into the Faith Day framework, either, nor does Ed Farmer's Catholicism. In fact those three religions probably make up a good portion of the White Sox ticket-holding base.
Growing up in Buttpuddle I had no idea what Yom Kippur was except that Steve Stone didn't work that day. "It's a Jewish holy day," my former nun mother told me. And that was that. Later in my childhood I met actual Jews and they worked and went to school on Jewish holidays and I was like wtf.
I like bacon. Sue me.
Quote from: Oleg on August 25, 2015, 07:03:59 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 06:07:37 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
You really don't know that Steve's Jewish? He always took the Jewish holidays off.
No, I didn't. I don't know why I would have cared.
Steve Stone used to take Yom Kippur Cubs games off. Ken Harrelson, is Greek Orthodox, which probably doesn't fit into the Faith Day framework, either, nor does Ed Farmer's Catholicism. In fact those three religions probably make up a good portion of the White Sox ticket-holding base.
Growing up in Buttpuddle I had no idea what Yom Kippur was except that Steve Stone didn't work that day. "It's a Jewish holy day," my former nun mother told me. And that was that. Later in my childhood I met actual Jews and they worked and went to school on Jewish holidays and I was like wtf.
I like bacon. Sue me.
Bacon? Phooey! It's traif!
Translation, not Kosher
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 06:07:37 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
It's head-scratching that one of the guys who is on the White Sox TV broadcasts is promoting the event? Or is there something about Steve Stone's religion I don't know?
You really don't know that Steve's Jewish? He always took the Jewish holidays off.
No, I didn't. I don't know why I would have cared.
Steve Stone used to take Yom Kippur Cubs games off. Ken Harrelson, is Greek Orthodox, which probably doesn't fit into the Faith Day framework, either, nor does Ed Farmer's Catholicism. In fact those three religions probably make up a good portion of the White Sox ticket-holding base.
Growing up in Buttpuddle I had no idea what Yom Kippur was except that Steve Stone didn't work that day. "It's a Jewish holy day," my former nun mother told me. And that was that. Later in my childhood I met actual Jews and they worked and went to school on Jewish holidays and I was like wtf.
The reason that the Cubs lost the pennant to the Giants in 1989 was that DJ and I went to the morning Yom Kippur service but played hookey during the afternoon service and went to Candlestick. We got back in time for the evening and concluding services, but it was too little, too late. God punished us. I know that if I had stayed in the synagogue, God would have let the Cubs win just to flaunt his power. So you can blame me.
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
Holy shit.
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
Holy shit.
They're like the low rent Cardinals. Just as easy to hate, none of the irritating success
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
Holy shit.
I see what you did there.
Quote from: SKO on August 25, 2015, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
Holy shit.
They're like the low rent Cardinals. Just as easy to hate, none of the irritating success
Since Internet Chuck is celebrating an Internet Jewish holiday or an Internet Bank Holiday or just recoiling in fear at the Asian markets right now, I got this:
Low rent? Check. (http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/taxpayers-subsidize-white-sox-park/Content?oid=9371315)
The most surprising thing is that there are no Duggars involved.
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 25, 2015, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
Holy shit.
They're like the low rent Cardinals. Just as easy to hate, none of the irritating success
Since Internet Chuck is celebrating an Internet Jewish holiday or an Internet Bank Holiday or just recoiling in fear at the Asian markets right now or attending opening day of school ceremonies, I got this:
Low rent? Check. (http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/taxpayers-subsidize-white-sox-park/Content?oid=9371315)
Boarded.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 25, 2015, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
Holy shit.
They're like the low rent Cardinals. Just as easy to hate, none of the irritating success
Since Internet Chuck is celebrating an Internet Jewish holiday or an Internet Bank Holiday or just recoiling in fear at the Asian markets right now or attending opening day of school ceremonies, I got this:
Low rent? Check. (http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/taxpayers-subsidize-white-sox-park/Content?oid=9371315)
Boarded.
Opening Day of School Ceremonies at 10:17 PM? I know they do things differently in District 30, but come on!
Quote from: Brownie on August 26, 2015, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 25, 2015, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
Holy shit.
They're like the low rent Cardinals. Just as easy to hate, none of the irritating success
Since Internet Chuck is celebrating an Internet Jewish holiday or an Internet Bank Holiday or just recoiling in fear at the Asian markets right now or attending opening day of school ceremonies, I got this:
Low rent? Check. (http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/taxpayers-subsidize-white-sox-park/Content?oid=9371315)
Boarded.
Opening Day of School Ceremonies at 10:17 PM? I know they do things differently in District 30, but come on!
At 10:17 PM, I was watching Montero. Then shifted to Call Me A Hero part 4.
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
God may give me eternity, but clearly that is not enough time to write the irreverent jokes about the White Sox latest promotional day. (http://mlb.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/groups/gsg/gsg.jsp?loc=faith&partnerId=DFA-1490770-0-121405974) I first learned of this promotion last night when Steve Stone read the promo at the start of an inning. Seeing that Adam LaRoche, Gordon Beckham, and Zach Duke (all outspoken evangelicals) will speak before introducing Willie "Duck Dynasty" Robertson, there's the head-scratching irony of Jerry Reinsdorf's club having Steve Stone promote the event.
Can Adam LaRoche (the event's apparent organizer) hit a curveball? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndH9mhHPk0)
I have tickets for Sunday's game. I'll represent the godless heathens.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Are you kidding? They want me bothering them as little as possible.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Are you kidding? They want me bothering them as little as possible.
What he means is you're not Internet Chuck in your home life or your home life would look like Kevin Spacey's at the end of American Beauty.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Are you kidding? They want me bothering them as little as possible.
What he means is you're not Internet Chuck in your home life or your home life would look like Kevin Spacey's at the end of American Beauty.
Yep. English is hard for me.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Are you kidding? They want me bothering them as little as possible.
What he means is you're not Internet Chuck in your home life or your home life would look like Kevin Spacey's at the end of American Beauty.
My next door neighbor has never tried to kiss me.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Are you kidding? They want me bothering them as little as possible.
What he means is you're not Internet Chuck in your home life or your home life would look like Kevin Spacey's at the end of American Beauty.
My next door neighbor has never tried to kiss me.
Keep throwing the weights around and parading about in those carpenter jorts. He'll come around.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 10:22:49 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Are you kidding? They want me bothering them as little as possible.
What he means is you're not Internet Chuck in your home life or your home life would look like Kevin Spacey's at the end of American Beauty.
My next door neighbor has never tried to kiss me.
Keep throwing the weights around and parading about in those carpenter jorts. He'll come around.
I want to report that last comment to the moderator as being outstanding.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 10:22:49 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Are you kidding? They want me bothering them as little as possible.
What he means is you're not Internet Chuck in your home life or your home life would look like Kevin Spacey's at the end of American Beauty.
My next door neighbor has never tried to kiss me.
Keep throwing the weights around and parading about in those carpenter jorts. He'll come around.
The jorts are gone. Wore out. I've moved on to Costco Cargo.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 10:22:49 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 27, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 27, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 26, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
I'm not on Desipio *ALL* the time...
Your family would have murdered you by now if you were.
Are you kidding? They want me bothering them as little as possible.
What he means is you're not Internet Chuck in your home life or your home life would look like Kevin Spacey's at the end of American Beauty.
My next door neighbor has never tried to kiss me.
Keep throwing the weights around and parading about in those carpenter jorts. He'll come around.
The jorts are gone. Wore out. I've moved on to Costco Cargo.
Another shitty remake.
After a season-long review, the Shite Sox have determined that bench coach Mark Parent and assistant hitting coach Harold Baines are to blame, therefore they're firing Parent and reassigning Baines so Robin Ventura can take them to the promised land without any dead weight dragging him down.
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
Quote from: SKO on October 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
Just be patient. Kenny Williams has a three-year plan. And every single White Sox is contractually mandated in every interview to say "we have all the pieces in place" (Samardzija being one of the prime offenders, of course). Gets me every time.
Quote from: SKO on October 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
DPD could be worse. At least they didn't sign "DH" Billy Butler (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml).
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
DPD could be worse. At least they didn't sign "DH" Billy Butler (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml).
Wow. I'll bet, when Oakland signed him and gave him $23.5 mildo, they thought he'd just had a down year and would rebound. He actually got
worse.
Also, his nickname is "Country Breakfast". I dread to think what that means.
Quote from: Tonker on October 05, 2015, 03:51:05 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
DPD could be worse. At least they didn't sign "DH" Billy Butler (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml).
Wow. I'll bet, when Oakland signed him and gave him $23.5 mildo, they thought he'd just had a down year and would rebound. He actually got worse.
Also, his nickname is "Country Breakfast". I dread to think what that means.
It means he's fat.
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2015, 07:17:57 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 05, 2015, 03:51:05 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
DPD could be worse. At least they didn't sign "DH" Billy Butler (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml).
Wow. I'll bet, when Oakland signed him and gave him $23.5 mildo, they thought he'd just had a down year and would rebound. He actually got worse.
Also, his nickname is "Country Breakfast". I dread to think what that means.
It means he's fat.
It means he orders Biscuits and Gravy EVERYWHERE he goes....
I'm looking at you, Tonk..... and myself
Quote from: Yeti on October 05, 2015, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2015, 07:17:57 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 05, 2015, 03:51:05 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
DPD could be worse. At least they didn't sign "DH" Billy Butler (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml).
Wow. I'll bet, when Oakland signed him and gave him $23.5 mildo, they thought he'd just had a down year and would rebound. He actually got worse.
Also, his nickname is "Country Breakfast". I dread to think what that means.
It means he's fat.
It means he orders Biscuits and Gravy EVERYWHERE he goes....
I'm looking at you, Tonk..... and myself
The restaurant in the lobby where I work sells a DIY biscuit and gravy, so you can drown the biscuit in the stuff. $1.35.
I had to knock it off because I put 20 pounds on.
Quote from: Yeti on October 05, 2015, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2015, 07:17:57 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 05, 2015, 03:51:05 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
DPD could be worse. At least they didn't sign "DH" Billy Butler (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml).
Wow. I'll bet, when Oakland signed him and gave him $23.5 mildo, they thought he'd just had a down year and would rebound. He actually got worse.
Also, his nickname is "Country Breakfast". I dread to think what that means.
It means he's fat.
It means he orders Biscuits and Gravy EVERYWHERE he goes....
I'm looking at you, Tonk..... and myself
Your tone of voice indicates to me that there's some problem here, but I can't for the life of me figure out what it might be.
Quote from: Tonker on October 05, 2015, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 05, 2015, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2015, 07:17:57 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 05, 2015, 03:51:05 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
Meanwhile, on the south side, 86 losses and $40 million spent this year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. And all the decision makers get to stay!
DPD could be worse. At least they didn't sign "DH" Billy Butler (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml).
Wow. I'll bet, when Oakland signed him and gave him $23.5 mildo, they thought he'd just had a down year and would rebound. He actually got worse.
Also, his nickname is "Country Breakfast". I dread to think what that means.
It means he's fat.
It means he orders Biscuits and Gravy EVERYWHERE he goes....
I'm looking at you, Tonk..... and myself
Your tone of voice indicates to me that there's some problem here, but I can't for the life of me figure out what it might be.
You heard me typing that? That's what that feeling was under my desk earlier.
There's nothing *wrong* with it, except that our wives will be widows sooner than they should
Would like to know how much money that bar lost for all of those meaningless Cardinals bombs.
Quote from: SKO on October 14, 2015, 03:04:22 PM
Would like to know how much money that bar lost for all of those meaningless Cardinals bombs.
Unless people came in and didn't drink anything other than the home run beers, I'm sure they came out well ahead.
Operation Sloppy Seconds (http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/1084090/white-sox-appear-close-naming-rick-renteria-bench-coach) rolls on.
QuoteThe White Sox are close to naming a bench coach, with one major league source saying former Cubs manager Rick Renteria could be announced as manager Robin Ventura's right-hand man in the next day or two as the general managers meetings get under way in Boca Raton, Fla.
DPD.
QuoteWhite Sox executive vice president Kenny Williams told MLB.com's Scott Merkin that the team hasn't made a definitive decision as to which direction it will go this offseason.
Excellent leadership. No rush, guys.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 19, 2015, 02:16:58 AM
DPD.
QuoteWhite Sox executive vice president Kenny Williams told MLB.com's Scott Merkin that the team hasn't made a definitive decision as to which direction it will go this offseason.
Excellent leadership. No rush, guys.
By not making a decision, the decision of "in the shitter" is made for them. Salty-assed Sox fans will be glorious this summer.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 19, 2015, 02:16:58 AM
DPD.
QuoteWhite Sox executive vice president Kenny Williams told MLB.com's Scott Merkin that the team hasn't made a definitive decision as to which direction it will go this offseason.
Excellent leadership. No rush, guys.
This is fantastic.
Quote from: PANK! on November 19, 2015, 08:06:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 19, 2015, 02:16:58 AM
DPD.
QuoteWhite Sox executive vice president Kenny Williams told MLB.com's Scott Merkin that the team hasn't made a definitive decision as to which direction it will go this offseason.
Excellent leadership. No rush, guys.
This is fantastic.
Glorious, glorious schadenfreude.
The South Side has a low OBP fever, and the only prescription is more low OBP: White Sox interested in A's infielder and flower tattoo enthusiast Brett Lawrie (.299 OBP in '15; career OBP .316).
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
I would honestly feel pity now, if I didn't constantly encounter Sox fans whose entire raison d'être was to tell me that Cubs fans don't like baseball, Wrigley Field is the World's Biggest Gay Bar, and that 1908 was a long time ago.
Quote from: Bort on December 10, 2015, 09:11:24 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
I would honestly feel pity now, if I didn't constantly encounter Sox fans whose entire raison d'être was to tell me that Cubs fans don't like baseball, Wrigley Field is the World's Biggest Gay Bar, and that 1908 was a long time ago.
I want them to run off 12 wins in a row to get 3 games above .500 at the trade deadline before they burst into flames.
Quote from: Bort on December 10, 2015, 09:11:24 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
I would honestly feel pity now, if I didn't constantly encounter Sox fans whose entire raison d'être was to tell me that Cubs fans don't like baseball, Wrigley Field is the World's Biggest Gay Bar, and that 1908 was a long time ago.
I actually did feel a moment of pity for them when the Lawrie trade went down and I looked at the Sox fan replies to the official tweet about it. So much rage and anger. Imagine having the Cubs seemingly looking like a model franchise in all of baseball in terms of how they're being run right now, coming off an NLCS appearance, and being linked to nearly every top free agent at some point, and being a White Sox fan knowing your team basically can't and won't do anything about being a 75 win heap of shit. That would suck.
On the other hand, I remembered the dude who argued vehemently with me that Bryant and Russell sucked because batting average and then tweeted "2005! 2005!" at me like 10 times in a row when the Cubs 9 game winning streak ended, so fuck them.
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
That lol had better be ironic, mister.
Quote from: Tonker on December 10, 2015, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
That lol had better be ironic, mister.
A Sox fan here at work is trying to tell me how Lawrie being 25 means he's still young and will start getting on base. Besides, they're going to get Frazier from the Reds.
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
Yeah holy shit does that trade look absolutely awful now.
QuoteEven after adding Brett Lawrie, Alex Avila and Dioner Navarro, GM Rick Hahn wants to continue to upgrade the White Sox' offense, Dan Hayes of CSNChicago.com writes.
Yes, more "upgrades." Hawk's gonna cancel his quasi-retirement again so he can watch this juggernaut all season long.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 10, 2015, 09:58:12 AM
QuoteEven after adding Brett Lawrie, Alex Avila and Dioner Navarro, GM Rick Hahn wants to continue to upgrade the White Sox' offense, Dan Hayes of CSNChicago.com writes.
Yes, more "upgrades." Hawk's gonna cancel his quasi-retirement again so he can watch this juggernaut all season long.
Well, I mean, Brett Lawrie's .706 OPS is considerably better than the .622 they got from their combined 3B last year, so upgrade is technically the correct term
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
*Key* piece? They did get pretty damn good prospect (as prospects go) and a pretty decent pitcher. No a haul by any stretch (especially compared to what Kimbrell and Miller fetched) but it's probably not *that* much of an LOL yet. I mean, still an LOL but The A's got some probably useful pieces. Oh shit, whom am I kidding? LOL away.
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
*Key* piece? They did get pretty damn good prospect (as prospects go) and a pretty decent pitcher. No a haul by any stretch (especially compared to what Kimbrell and Miller fetched) but it's probably not *that* much of an LOL yet. I mean, still an LOL but The A's got some probably useful pieces. Oh shit, whom am I kidding? LOL away.
Trades just don't seem to work the way they should right now. Offense is harder than ever to find, and yet the guys who have been traded for the best returns in the last two years are almost all pitchers (Snork/Hammel, Price, Miller, Kimbrel, etc). You'd think people would realize there's more Shelby Millers than there are Josh Donaldsons but apparently not.
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
*Key* piece? They did get pretty damn good prospect (as prospects go) and a pretty decent pitcher. No a haul by any stretch (especially compared to what Kimbrell and Miller fetched) but it's probably not *that* much of an LOL yet. I mean, still an LOL but The A's got some probably useful pieces. Oh shit, whom am I kidding? LOL away.
Trades just don't seem to work the way they should right now. Offense is harder than ever to find, and yet the guys who have been traded for the best returns in the last two years are almost all pitchers (Snork/Hammel, Price, Miller, Kimbrel, etc). You'd think people would realize there's more Shelby Millers than there are Josh Donaldsons but apparently not.
I guess that's the thing...Kimbrell and Miller both got traded to FOs that seem to be more "old school". Maybe there are really two markets that teams should be playing in? I don't know.
Also, I think it's time to start evaluating trades that happen mid-season compared to off-season. Different motivations and all that.
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
*Key* piece? They did get pretty damn good prospect (as prospects go) and a pretty decent pitcher. No a haul by any stretch (especially compared to what Kimbrell and Miller fetched) but it's probably not *that* much of an LOL yet. I mean, still an LOL but The A's got some probably useful pieces. Oh shit, whom am I kidding? LOL away.
Trades just don't seem to work the way they should right now. Offense is harder than ever to find, and yet the guys who have been traded for the best returns in the last two years are almost all pitchers (Snork/Hammel, Price, Miller, Kimbrel, etc). You'd think people would realize there's more Shelby Millers than there are Josh Donaldsons but apparently not.
I guess that's the thing...Kimbrell and Miller both got traded to FOs that seem to be more "old school". Maybe there are really two markets that teams should be playing in? I don't know.
Also, I think it's time to start evaluating trades that happen mid-season compared to off-season. Different motivations and all that.
Yeah I think that's the problem. Theo and Jed have identified where the game is now and that young hitters should be the new currency of the game, but the majority of front offices still seem to value top pitching prospects over top hitting prospects. The Cubs were never in to trade for Price or anyone else because they didn't have a Daniel Norris to offer, which is dumb, because Daniel Norris is probably going to be a #3/4 type starter at best and those really aren't that hard to find, but Detroit wasn't going to give up Price without getting a "ML-ready starting pitcher" in return.
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 10:42:18 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
*Key* piece? They did get pretty damn good prospect (as prospects go) and a pretty decent pitcher. No a haul by any stretch (especially compared to what Kimbrell and Miller fetched) but it's probably not *that* much of an LOL yet. I mean, still an LOL but The A's got some probably useful pieces. Oh shit, whom am I kidding? LOL away.
Trades just don't seem to work the way they should right now. Offense is harder than ever to find, and yet the guys who have been traded for the best returns in the last two years are almost all pitchers (Snork/Hammel, Price, Miller, Kimbrel, etc). You'd think people would realize there's more Shelby Millers than there are Josh Donaldsons but apparently not.
I guess that's the thing...Kimbrell and Miller both got traded to FOs that seem to be more "old school". Maybe there are really two markets that teams should be playing in? I don't know.
Also, I think it's time to start evaluating trades that happen mid-season compared to off-season. Different motivations and all that.
Yeah I think that's the problem. Theo and Jed have identified where the game is now and that young hitters should be the new currency of the game, but the majority of front offices still seem to value top pitching prospects over top hitting prospects. The Cubs were never in to trade for Price or anyone else because they didn't have a Daniel Norris to offer, which is dumb, because Daniel Norris is probably going to be a #3/4 type starter at best and those really aren't that hard to find, but Detroit wasn't going to give up Price without getting a "ML-ready starting pitcher" in return.
DPD, but this why I am hoping that some of the Cubs starting pitching prospects start to get some attention this year as they move into the higher levels of the minors so that the Cubs have some pitching bargaining chips to throw into talks with guys like Gleyber or McKinney if they really need to put together a blockbuster at some point without having to torture us every five minutes with another Soler/Baez rumor.
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 10:42:18 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
*Key* piece? They did get pretty damn good prospect (as prospects go) and a pretty decent pitcher. No a haul by any stretch (especially compared to what Kimbrell and Miller fetched) but it's probably not *that* much of an LOL yet. I mean, still an LOL but The A's got some probably useful pieces. Oh shit, whom am I kidding? LOL away.
Trades just don't seem to work the way they should right now. Offense is harder than ever to find, and yet the guys who have been traded for the best returns in the last two years are almost all pitchers (Snork/Hammel, Price, Miller, Kimbrel, etc). You'd think people would realize there's more Shelby Millers than there are Josh Donaldsons but apparently not.
I guess that's the thing...Kimbrell and Miller both got traded to FOs that seem to be more "old school". Maybe there are really two markets that teams should be playing in? I don't know.
Also, I think it's time to start evaluating trades that happen mid-season compared to off-season. Different motivations and all that.
Yeah I think that's the problem. Theo and Jed have identified where the game is now and that young hitters should be the new currency of the game, but the majority of front offices still seem to value top pitching prospects over top hitting prospects. The Cubs were never in to trade for Price or anyone else because they didn't have a Daniel Norris to offer, which is dumb, because Daniel Norris is probably going to be a #3/4 type starter at best and those really aren't that hard to find, but Detroit wasn't going to give up Price without getting a "ML-ready starting pitcher" in return.
I guess that's the thing...that Detroit FO is basically the same people in the current Boston FO that gave Price 217 and traded all those prospects for 70 innings of a $13MM closer. Arizona is the FO that signed Greinke to 210 and gave up HOLY-SHIT-I-STILL-CAN'T-BELIEVE-WHAT for Shelby Miller and gave away Touissant last year just so someone would take 10MM of their hands in Arroyo.
At some point, everyone will realize that two (or four or whatever) FOs aren't going to be able to set the whole market, right? Just because The Braves found that deal, doesn't mean that Cleveland will find a similar deal for Carrasco or Salazar.
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 10:42:18 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 10, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 10, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 09, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Starting to think Rick Hahn might be a complete moron. Remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Good God.
Yeah, that awful spending spree from last year is going to haunt them for years to come.
Wha' happened?
They spent $40 million last year to get a combined -0.1 fWAR from Robertson, Melky, LaRoche, and Duke. They supposedly would need to move LaRoche in order to make any significant moves that cost actual money, but no way in hell anybody will bite on that. They're pretty much just stuck being the same team again next year, but now with Brett Lawrie!
Yeah I know what happened last year; I just didn't know they acquired the great Brett Lawrie. lol
Tangential LOL -- Lawrie was a key piece in what the A's got for Josh Donaldson, MVP.
*Key* piece? They did get pretty damn good prospect (as prospects go) and a pretty decent pitcher. No a haul by any stretch (especially compared to what Kimbrell and Miller fetched) but it's probably not *that* much of an LOL yet. I mean, still an LOL but The A's got some probably useful pieces. Oh shit, whom am I kidding? LOL away.
Trades just don't seem to work the way they should right now. Offense is harder than ever to find, and yet the guys who have been traded for the best returns in the last two years are almost all pitchers (Snork/Hammel, Price, Miller, Kimbrel, etc). You'd think people would realize there's more Shelby Millers than there are Josh Donaldsons but apparently not.
I guess that's the thing...Kimbrell and Miller both got traded to FOs that seem to be more "old school". Maybe there are really two markets that teams should be playing in? I don't know.
Also, I think it's time to start evaluating trades that happen mid-season compared to off-season. Different motivations and all that.
Yeah I think that's the problem. Theo and Jed have identified where the game is now and that young hitters should be the new currency of the game, but the majority of front offices still seem to value top pitching prospects over top hitting prospects. The Cubs were never in to trade for Price or anyone else because they didn't have a Daniel Norris to offer, which is dumb, because Daniel Norris is probably going to be a #3/4 type starter at best and those really aren't that hard to find, but Detroit wasn't going to give up Price without getting a "ML-ready starting pitcher" in return.
I guess that's the thing...that Detroit FO is basically the same people in the current Boston FO that gave Price 217 and traded all those prospects for 70 innings of a $13MM closer. Arizona is the FO that signed Greinke to 210 and gave up HOLY-SHIT-I-STILL-CAN'T-BELIEVE-WHAT for Shelby Miller and gave away Touissant last year just so someone would take 10MM of their hands in Arroyo.
At some point, everyone will realize that two (or four or whatever) FOs aren't going to be able to set the whole market, right? Just because The Braves found that deal, doesn't mean that Cleveland will find a similar deal for Carrasco or Salazar.
Depends on whether they can sucker Stewart into giving up Goldschmidt.
So many Sox fans saying "yea we won the off-season last year look how that turned out" like there's not a difference between overpaying Adam LaRoche and Dave Robertson to save a 73 win team and adding a 26 year old 6 WAR OF to a 97 win team.
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 08:41:57 PM
So many Sox fans saying "yea we won the off-season last year look how that turned out" like there's not a difference between overpaying Adam LaRoche and Dave Robertson to save a 73 win team and adding a 26 year old 6 WAR OF to a 97 win team.
"Sox Fans Being Delusional" is not exactly a hell of a lede.
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 08:41:57 PM
So many Sox fans saying "yea we won the off-season last year look how that turned out" like there's not a difference between overpaying Adam LaRoche and Dave Robertson to save a 73 win team and adding a 26 year old 6 WAR OF to a 97 win team.
Did anyone really say that the Sox won the offseason last year? I need names.
Quote from: CT III on December 11, 2015, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 08:41:57 PM
So many Sox fans saying "yea we won the off-season last year look how that turned out" like there's not a difference between overpaying Adam LaRoche and Dave Robertson to save a 73 win team and adding a 26 year old 6 WAR OF to a 97 win team.
Did anyone really say that the Sox won the offseason last year? I need names.
I'm pretty sure no one has ever accused the Sox of winning anything.
Quote from: CT III on December 11, 2015, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 08:41:57 PM
So many Sox fans saying "yea we won the off-season last year look how that turned out" like there's not a difference between overpaying Adam LaRoche and Dave Robertson to save a 73 win team and adding a 26 year old 6 WAR OF to a 97 win team.
Did anyone really say that the Sox won the offseason last year? I need names.
SKO needs to stop spending so much time in Strawlandia. That place is awful.
(I will, in his defense, recall how optimistic Sox fans were a year ago generally)
Quote from: PANK! on December 12, 2015, 07:33:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on December 11, 2015, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 08:41:57 PM
So many Sox fans saying "yea we won the off-season last year look how that turned out" like there's not a difference between overpaying Adam LaRoche and Dave Robertson to save a 73 win team and adding a 26 year old 6 WAR OF to a 97 win team.
Did anyone really say that the Sox won the offseason last year? I need names.
SKO needs to stop spending so much time in Strawlandia. That place is awful.
(I will, in his defense, recall how optimistic Sox fans were a year ago generally)
Yea, I felt like the consensus was that the Sox and the Padres "won" the offseason, but if that's all it took to win the offseason last year, I'm pretty sure the cubs just swept that shit.
This had Sox/Padres 1 and 2 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2335445-highlighting-the-best-and-worst-2014-2015-mlb-offseason-makeovers/page/12
This gave them an A- http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/02/23/winter-report-cards-final-al-grades
Jim Bowden gave them an A+ http://puckettspond.com/2015/02/17/espn-insider-jim-bowden-releases-mlb-offseason-grades/6/
We can all say how wrong that was, because lulz, but it was thing being said.
Quote from: Yeti on December 12, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 12, 2015, 07:33:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on December 11, 2015, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 11, 2015, 08:41:57 PM
So many Sox fans saying "yea we won the off-season last year look how that turned out" like there's not a difference between overpaying Adam LaRoche and Dave Robertson to save a 73 win team and adding a 26 year old 6 WAR OF to a 97 win team.
Did anyone really say that the Sox won the offseason last year? I need names.
SKO needs to stop spending so much time in Strawlandia. That place is awful.
(I will, in his defense, recall how optimistic Sox fans were a year ago generally)
Yea, I felt like the consensus was that the Sox and the Padres "won" the offseason, but if that's all it took to win the offseason last year, I'm pretty sure the cubs just swept that shit.
This had Sox/Padres 1 and 2 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2335445-highlighting-the-best-and-worst-2014-2015-mlb-offseason-makeovers/page/12
This gave them an A- http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/02/23/winter-report-cards-final-al-grades
Jim Bowden gave them an A+ http://puckettspond.com/2015/02/17/espn-insider-jim-bowden-releases-mlb-offseason-grades/6/
We can all say how wrong that was, because lulz, but it was thing being said.
http://www.pressreader.com/usa/chicago-sun-times/20151113/282527247326024/TextView here's Bob Nightengale also stating that the Padres and White Sox were last year's "winter champions".
Point taken.
Maybe I just don't care about "winning" the Hot Stove League.
My own recollection associates those two teams as suddenly ditching any real long-term development, going all "fuck it lets go for it" mode. San Diego's case being more reckless because they seemed to have surer talent below. The Cubs haven't done any of that shit, kind of amazingly. I'm still pinching myself that they've done what they've done and only dealt Castro.
Quote from: PANK! on December 12, 2015, 08:35:11 AM
Point taken.
Maybe I just don't care about "winning" the Hot Stove League.
My own recollection associates those two teams as suddenly ditching any real long-term development, going all "fuck it lets go for it" mode. San Diego's case being more reckless because they seemed to have surer talent below. The Cubs haven't done any of that shit, kind of amazingly. I'm still pinching myself that they've done what they've done and only dealt Castro.
Yeah that was the point, idiots trying to denigrate what the Cubs are doing because "big spending isn't how you win" or pointing to how Theo struggled after signing big free agents like Carl Crawford in Boston are missing that these Cubs were already a damn good team that didn't even need Heyward. They built the right way and now they're just icing the cake.
I think that trade was actually a good one by the White Sox. Plus, Todd Frazier is gone. Good for them.
Quote from: SKO on December 16, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
I think that trade was actually a good one by the White Sox. Plus, Todd Frazier is gone. Good for them.
Nice link. Your post is so vague it may as well be a Facebook status by a 15 year old, jilted emo kid.
Quote from: Oleg on December 16, 2015, 11:56:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 16, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
I think that trade was actually a good one by the White Sox. Plus, Todd Frazier is gone. Good for them.
Nice link. Your post is so vague it may as well be a Facebook status by a 15 year old, jilted emo kid.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/white-sox-todd-frazier-trade-reds-dodgers.html
Reds get: Jose Peraza, Scott Schebler, Brandon Dixon
Dodgers get: Frankie Montas, Trayce Thompson, Micah Johnson
White Sox get: Todd Frazier.
So Dodgers get an interesting pitching prospect in Montas, decent 4th OF in Thompson, meh 2B prospect, White Sox get a big upgrade at third and can now play Lawrie at 2B, and the Reds sold their big trade chip for Jose Peraza (who will no doubt be an irritating speedy thorn in the Cubs side) and some fringe prospects.
Think the Sox did OK here, the Dodgers get more ammunition for whatever evil trade Friedman is planning (Jose Fernandez?) and the Reds kinda need Peraza to be a star for this to really make a lot of sense for them.
Quote from: Oleg on December 16, 2015, 11:56:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 16, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
I think that trade was actually a good one by the White Sox. Plus, Todd Frazier is gone. Good for them.
Nice link. Your post is so vague it may as well be a Facebook status by a 15 year old, jilted emo kid.
Augie in 14 years
Quote from: Yeti on December 16, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 16, 2015, 11:56:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 16, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
I think that trade was actually a good one by the White Sox. Plus, Todd Frazier is gone. Good for them.
Nice link. Your post is so vague it may as well be a Facebook status by a 15 year old, jilted emo kid.
Augie in 14 years
God willing by the time my kid is 15 years old facebook will be known solely as the place where everyone's crazy racist uncles hang out and my son will want nothing to do with it.
The Sox are supposedly one of the frontrunners for Cespedes, which seems like such a White Sox move. I've been expecting them to sign him all offseason.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
The Sox are supposedly one of the frontrunners for Cespedes, which seems like such a White Sox move. I've been expecting them to sign him all offseason.
He probably won't repeat last year's career numbers but they have like a two year window so it's worth going for it. Just find a way to get Sale and Quintana into a playoff series and you have a chance.
Quote from: SKO on December 29, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
The Sox are supposedly one of the frontrunners for Cespedes, which seems like such a White Sox move. I've been expecting them to sign him all offseason.
He probably won't repeat last year's career numbers but they have like a two year window so it's worth going for it. Just find a way to get Sale and Quintana into a playoff series and you have a chance.
That theory makes sense. The Cespedes and Frazier additions could net them, what 10 wins on paper? It's the same slapdick approach to team building that we used to deal with pre-Theo. There's a better chance that Sale and Q suffer catastrophic arm injuries at the same time than this team catching lightning in a bottle and qualifying for the playoffs with 87 wins. So they should actually trade Sale and Quintana and Frazier and bottom out. But they won't so, fine whatever. Cespedes, woo hoo.
Quote from: SKO on December 29, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
The Sox are supposedly one of the frontrunners for Cespedes, which seems like such a White Sox move. I've been expecting them to sign him all offseason.
He probably won't repeat last year's career numbers but they have like a two year window so it's worth going for it. Just find a way to get Sale and Quintana into a playoff series and you have a chance.
By not going out and getting any pitching this winter, they've also pushed all their chips to the middle of the table on Rodon.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 30, 2015, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 29, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
The Sox are supposedly one of the frontrunners for Cespedes, which seems like such a White Sox move. I've been expecting them to sign him all offseason.
He probably won't repeat last year's career numbers but they have like a two year window so it's worth going for it. Just find a way to get Sale and Quintana into a playoff series and you have a chance.
By not going out and getting any pitching this winter, they've also pushed all their chips to the middle of the table on Rodon.
I think any team in their market range would, though.
Quote from: InternetApex on December 30, 2015, 08:05:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 29, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
The Sox are supposedly one of the frontrunners for Cespedes, which seems like such a White Sox move. I've been expecting them to sign him all offseason.
He probably won't repeat last year's career numbers but they have like a two year window so it's worth going for it. Just find a way to get Sale and Quintana into a playoff series and you have a chance.
That theory makes sense. The Cespedes and Frazier additions could net them, what 10 wins on paper? It's the same slapdick approach to team building that we used to deal with pre-Theo. There's a better chance that Sale and Q suffer catastrophic arm injuries at the same time than this team catching lightning in a bottle and qualifying for the playoffs with 87 wins. So they should actually trade Sale and Quintana and Frazier and bottom out. But they won't so, fine whatever. Cespedes, woo hoo.
Oh yeah, they have no depth whatsoever and if Sale or Abreu gets hurt they are fucked. But they won't blow it up, so they have to pick a direction and go full steam ahead regardless. Treading water and making no effort to compete in Sale's prime would be the worst thing they could do, might as well go nuts on Cespedes and hope they can get those 87 wins.
Quote from: SKO on December 30, 2015, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 30, 2015, 08:05:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 29, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
The Sox are supposedly one of the frontrunners for Cespedes, which seems like such a White Sox move. I've been expecting them to sign him all offseason.
He probably won't repeat last year's career numbers but they have like a two year window so it's worth going for it. Just find a way to get Sale and Quintana into a playoff series and you have a chance.
That theory makes sense. The Cespedes and Frazier additions could net them, what 10 wins on paper? It's the same slapdick approach to team building that we used to deal with pre-Theo. There's a better chance that Sale and Q suffer catastrophic arm injuries at the same time than this team catching lightning in a bottle and qualifying for the playoffs with 87 wins. So they should actually trade Sale and Quintana and Frazier and bottom out. But they won't so, fine whatever. Cespedes, woo hoo.
Oh yeah, they have no depth whatsoever and if Sale or Abreu gets hurt they are fucked. But they won't blow it up, so they have to pick a direction and go full steam ahead regardless. Treading water and making no effort to compete in Sale's prime would be the worst thing they could do, might as well go nuts on Cespedes and hope they can get those 87 wins.
87 wins may be enough to make the playoffs in the AL. We can argue about whether Cespedes is the right choice but I think they at least have a somewhat solid plan.
Melky was really good after June 1. LaRouche is off the books after this year. Lawrie isn't bad and is an upgrade.
There aren't many teams who could afford to lose on of their two best players for an extended period of time and still be all right, though.
Quote from: Oleg on December 30, 2015, 08:54:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 30, 2015, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 30, 2015, 08:05:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 29, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
The Sox are supposedly one of the frontrunners for Cespedes, which seems like such a White Sox move. I've been expecting them to sign him all offseason.
He probably won't repeat last year's career numbers but they have like a two year window so it's worth going for it. Just find a way to get Sale and Quintana into a playoff series and you have a chance.
That theory makes sense. The Cespedes and Frazier additions could net them, what 10 wins on paper? It's the same slapdick approach to team building that we used to deal with pre-Theo. There's a better chance that Sale and Q suffer catastrophic arm injuries at the same time than this team catching lightning in a bottle and qualifying for the playoffs with 87 wins. So they should actually trade Sale and Quintana and Frazier and bottom out. But they won't so, fine whatever. Cespedes, woo hoo.
Oh yeah, they have no depth whatsoever and if Sale or Abreu gets hurt they are fucked. But they won't blow it up, so they have to pick a direction and go full steam ahead regardless. Treading water and making no effort to compete in Sale's prime would be the worst thing they could do, might as well go nuts on Cespedes and hope they can get those 87 wins.
87 wins may be enough to make the playoffs in the AL. We can argue about whether Cespedes is the right choice but I think they at least have a somewhat solid plan.
Melky was really good after June 1. LaRouche is off the books after this year. Lawrie isn't bad and is an upgrade.
There aren't many teams who could afford to lose on of their two best players for an extended period of time and still be all right, though.
True. A better example would be that they still have no SS (unless you're really into Tyler Saladino) and basically any extended injury to the infielders they do have would be disastrous, and their defense overall is still probably going to be pretty crappy.
But if they sign Cespedes and they stay relatively healthy, could easily see 83-88 wins from that team, and with the Royals
probably taking a step back (I say that warily after how they defied every reasonable projection last year), the Indians and Twins both probably looking like 83-85 win teams as well, and the Tigers still declining despite adding Zimmerman, that could definitely do it.
Quote from: SKO on December 30, 2015, 08:59:28 AM
But if they sign Cespedes and they stay relatively healthy, could easily see 83-88 wins from that team, and with the Royals probably taking a step back (I say that warily after how they defied every reasonable projection last year), the Indians and Twins both probably looking like 83-85 win teams as well, and the Tigers still declining despite adding Zimmerman, that could definitely do it.
This is probably the rationale behind Cleveland not moving any of their pitchers. The fact the Royals have gotten worse and nobody's going to blow anybody out of the water suddenly makes them contenders.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 30, 2015, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 30, 2015, 08:59:28 AM
But if they sign Cespedes and they stay relatively healthy, could easily see 83-88 wins from that team, and with the Royals probably taking a step back (I say that warily after how they defied every reasonable projection last year), the Indians and Twins both probably looking like 83-85 win teams as well, and the Tigers still declining despite adding Zimmerman, that could definitely do it.
This is probably the rationale behind Cleveland not moving any of their pitchers. The fact the Royals have gotten worse and nobody's going to blow anybody out of the water suddenly makes them contenders.
Yeah, the Indians were a slightly underachieving 81 win team last year. They're definitely right in the thick of it in that division.
If the White Sox do somehow miss out on Gordon and Cespedes, or the Royals need someone to replace Gordon, I wonder if they might call the Cubs about Coghlan.
Quote from: SKO on December 30, 2015, 09:10:56 AM
If the White Sox do somehow miss out on Gordon and Cespedes, or the Royals need someone to replace Gordon, I wonder if they might call the Cubs about Coghlan.
Not sure the Cubs would be eager to give up their best option in RF though.
Quote from: Eli on December 30, 2015, 09:20:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 30, 2015, 09:10:56 AM
If the White Sox do somehow miss out on Gordon and Cespedes, or the Royals need someone to replace Gordon, I wonder if they might call the Cubs about Coghlan.
Not sure the Cubs would be eager to give up their best option in RF though.
Now you're just stickpoking Apex.
Quote from: Oleg on December 30, 2015, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 30, 2015, 09:20:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 30, 2015, 09:10:56 AM
If the White Sox do somehow miss out on Gordon and Cespedes, or the Royals need someone to replace Gordon, I wonder if they might call the Cubs about Coghlan.
Not sure the Cubs would be eager to give up their best option in RF though.
Now you're just stickpoking Apex.
*smashes laptop*
Quote from: Oleg on December 30, 2015, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 30, 2015, 09:20:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 30, 2015, 09:10:56 AM
If the White Sox do somehow miss out on Gordon and Cespedes, or the Royals need someone to replace Gordon, I wonder if they might call the Cubs about Coghlan.
Not sure the Cubs would be eager to give up their best option in RF though.
Now you're just stickpoking Apex.
This made me angry as well.
Waking up this morning to hear Gordon took a "hometown discount" of 4/72 from the Royals means the Sox will try throwing Heyward money at Cespedes.
I positive this.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 09:59:19 AM
Waking up this morning to hear Gordon took a "hometown discount" of 4/72 from the Royals means the Sox will try throwing Heyward money at Cespedes.
I positive this.
The Sox don't want to give money to anyone right now, so I don't think that's in the cards.
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2016, 10:46:47 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 09:59:19 AM
Waking up this morning to hear Gordon took a "hometown discount" of 4/72 from the Royals means the Sox will try throwing Heyward money at Cespedes.
I positive this.
The Sox don't want to give money to anyone right now, so I don't think that's in the cards.
Don't take this away from me.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2016, 10:46:47 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 09:59:19 AM
Waking up this morning to hear Gordon took a "hometown discount" of 4/72 from the Royals means the Sox will try throwing Heyward money at Cespedes.
I positive this.
The Sox don't want to give money to anyone right now, so I don't think that's in the cards.
Don't take this away from me.
Yeah it's totally better the Sox overpay for a guy who will actually make them a better team than it is for them to end up getting no one and waste another year of Sale's prime as they go 79-83. I'm good with the latter.
I'm mostly glad Gordon went back to the Royals because he was the one free agent I could see potentially going to St. Louis. Definitely don't see them overpaying Cespedes or Upton.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2016, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2016, 10:46:47 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 09:59:19 AM
Waking up this morning to hear Gordon took a "hometown discount" of 4/72 from the Royals means the Sox will try throwing Heyward money at Cespedes.
I positive this.
The Sox don't want to give money to anyone right now, so I don't think that's in the cards.
Don't take this away from me.
Yeah it's totally better the Sox overpay for a guy who will actually make them a better team than it is for them to end up getting no one and waste another year of Sale's prime as they go 79-83. I'm good with the latter.
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2016, 11:09:43 AM
I'm mostly glad Gordon went back to the Royals because he was the one free agent I could see potentially going to St. Louis. Definitely don't see them overpaying Cespedes or Upton.
I wonder how serious St. Louis was about him. They had the money to top the Cubs' offer to Heyward so it seems they could have easily beat 4/72 if they wanted. But if they offered him a lot more and he
still chose the Royals I might just piss my pants laughing.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2016, 11:09:43 AM
I'm mostly glad Gordon went back to the Royals because he was the one free agent I could see potentially going to St. Louis. Definitely don't see them overpaying Cespedes or Upton.
I wonder how serious St. Louis was about him. They had the money to top the Cubs' offer to Heyward so it seems they could have easily beat 4/72 if they wanted. But if they offered him a lot more and he still chose the Royals I might just piss my pants laughing.
Bad enough to lose out on a player who chooses a city over which they have a collective inferiority complex, but to lose a player who elects to go to that burgh on the other side of their own state? I like to imagine that scenario to be true for this very reason.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2016, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2016, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2016, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2016, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2016, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
Most likely to overachieve. Most likely to underachieve
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 02:49:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2016, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
I think it's a tie between games 1-4 of the NLCS. But the ones you guys mentioned sucked too.
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2016, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2016, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
Most likely to overachieve. Most likely to underachieve
Skypoint for BC.
Quote from: InternetApex on January 06, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 02:49:57 PM
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
I think it's a tie between games 1-4 of the NLCS. But the ones you guys mentioned sucked too.
Eh, I define maddening a something other than your usual irritating loss. The NLCS loss was irritating as all get out but it wasn't inexplicable. The Mets had great pitching and the Cubs bats finally went cold.
The Rodon Game was maddening as in nothing about it made sense. He walked 6 guys and I think he even plunked a dude and got away with it becuase the Cubs kept hitting and running into an increasingly absurd series of double plays. It was one of those games where baseball just fucks with you because it can.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
I think it's a tie between games 1-4 of the NLCS. But the ones you guys mentioned sucked too.
Eh, I define maddening a something other than your usual irritating loss. The NLCS loss was irritating as all get out but it wasn't inexplicable. The Mets had great pitching and the Cubs bats finally went cold.
The Rodon Game was maddening as in nothing about it made sense. He walked 6 guys and I think he even plunked a dude and got away with it becuase the Cubs kept hitting and running into an increasingly absurd series of double plays. It was one of those games where baseball just fucks with you because it can.
Dick Beard the Pirate's inexplicable hot streak made me angry. Every hard hit ball finding the glove of a New York Met made me angry. The Cubs' outfield defense going straight to hell made me angry. I got down on the floor and smacked the hardwood and swore on multiple occasions. If you handled the suffering differently, cool. I was mad.
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They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
I think it's a tie between games 1-4 of the NLCS. But the ones you guys mentioned sucked too.
Eh, I define maddening a something other than your usual irritating loss. The NLCS loss was irritating as all get out but it wasn't inexplicable. The Mets had great pitching and the Cubs bats finally went cold.
The Rodon Game was maddening as in nothing about it made sense. He walked 6 guys and I think he even plunked a dude and got away with it becuase the Cubs kept hitting and running into an increasingly absurd series of double plays. It was one of those games where baseball just fucks with you because it can.
Dick Beard the Pirate's inexplicable hot streak made me angry. Every hard hit ball finding the glove of a New York Met made me angry. The Cubs' outfield defense going straight to hell made me angry. I got down on the floor and smacked the hardwood and swore on multiple occasions. If you handled the suffering differently, cool. I was mad.
Man of course I was mad. Who do you think you're talking to? I didn't mean to say the Rodon game was the single most infuriating game of the year, or whatever. For that matter it doesn't even compare to the May series in St. Louis or when Strop gave up that dong to Peralta.
I meant the Rodon game was the most bizarre, Curse of the BABIP God game they had all year. Rodon pitched like absolute garbage, walked six guys, and yet every bit of contact he gave up somehow went straight to somebody. Avi Garcia is like the worst defender in baseball and he made an amazing leaping catch. Alexei Ramirez was pretty close to the worst defender in baseball at the time that game was played and yet he made an amazing diving play/glove flip to double up Starlin. It was just a game where the inexplicable happened over and over.
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They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
I think it's a tie between games 1-4 of the NLCS. But the ones you guys mentioned sucked too.
Eh, I define maddening a something other than your usual irritating loss. The NLCS loss was irritating as all get out but it wasn't inexplicable. The Mets had great pitching and the Cubs bats finally went cold.
The Rodon Game was maddening as in nothing about it made sense. He walked 6 guys and I think he even plunked a dude and got away with it becuase the Cubs kept hitting and running into an increasingly absurd series of double plays. It was one of those games where baseball just fucks with you because it can.
Dick Beard the Pirate's inexplicable hot streak made me angry. Every hard hit ball finding the glove of a New York Met made me angry. The Cubs' outfield defense going straight to hell made me angry. I got down on the floor and smacked the hardwood and swore on multiple occasions. If you handled the suffering differently, cool. I was mad.
Man of course I was mad. Who do you think you're talking to? I didn't mean to say the Rodon game was the single most infuriating game of the year, or whatever. For that matter it doesn't even compare to the May series in St. Louis or when Strop gave up that dong to Peralta.
I meant the Rodon game was the most bizarre, Curse of the BABIP God game they had all year. Rodon pitched like absolute garbage, walked six guys, and yet every bit of contact he gave up somehow went straight to somebody. Avi Garcia is like the worst defender in baseball and he made an amazing leaping catch. Alexei Ramirez was pretty close to the worst defender in baseball at the time that game was played and yet he made an amazing diving play/glove flip to double up Starlin. It was just a game where the inexplicable happened over and over.
I have no recollection of that game unless Lester started it, then I think I do. That's how huge that one was.
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They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
I think it's a tie between games 1-4 of the NLCS. But the ones you guys mentioned sucked too.
Eh, I define maddening a something other than your usual irritating loss. The NLCS loss was irritating as all get out but it wasn't inexplicable. The Mets had great pitching and the Cubs bats finally went cold.
The Rodon Game was maddening as in nothing about it made sense. He walked 6 guys and I think he even plunked a dude and got away with it becuase the Cubs kept hitting and running into an increasingly absurd series of double plays. It was one of those games where baseball just fucks with you because it can.
Dick Beard the Pirate's inexplicable hot streak made me angry. Every hard hit ball finding the glove of a New York Met made me angry. The Cubs' outfield defense going straight to hell made me angry. I got down on the floor and smacked the hardwood and swore on multiple occasions. If you handled the suffering differently, cool. I was mad.
Man of course I was mad. Who do you think you're talking to? I didn't mean to say the Rodon game was the single most infuriating game of the year, or whatever. For that matter it doesn't even compare to the May series in St. Louis or when Strop gave up that dong to Peralta.
I meant the Rodon game was the most bizarre, Curse of the BABIP God game they had all year. Rodon pitched like absolute garbage, walked six guys, and yet every bit of contact he gave up somehow went straight to somebody. Avi Garcia is like the worst defender in baseball and he made an amazing leaping catch. Alexei Ramirez was pretty close to the worst defender in baseball at the time that game was played and yet he made an amazing diving play/glove flip to double up Starlin. It was just a game where the inexplicable happened over and over.
I have no recollection of that game unless Lester started it, then I think I do. That's how huge that one was.
Lester started the second game against Chris Sale in that series. He gave up 2 runs in the first, then posted 5 scoreless innings and 8 strikeouts, then in the 7th Kris Bryant made an error trying for a double play that led to 1st and 3rd, no outs instead of a man on second and 1 out and Lester gave up 3 more runs. DipShitInHydePark lost his fucking mind over Lester not being elite and stuff.
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They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
I think it's a tie between games 1-4 of the NLCS. But the ones you guys mentioned sucked too.
Eh, I define maddening a something other than your usual irritating loss. The NLCS loss was irritating as all get out but it wasn't inexplicable. The Mets had great pitching and the Cubs bats finally went cold.
The Rodon Game was maddening as in nothing about it made sense. He walked 6 guys and I think he even plunked a dude and got away with it becuase the Cubs kept hitting and running into an increasingly absurd series of double plays. It was one of those games where baseball just fucks with you because it can.
Dick Beard the Pirate's inexplicable hot streak made me angry. Every hard hit ball finding the glove of a New York Met made me angry. The Cubs' outfield defense going straight to hell made me angry. I got down on the floor and smacked the hardwood and swore on multiple occasions. If you handled the suffering differently, cool. I was mad.
Man of course I was mad. Who do you think you're talking to? I didn't mean to say the Rodon game was the single most infuriating game of the year, or whatever. For that matter it doesn't even compare to the May series in St. Louis or when Strop gave up that dong to Peralta.
I meant the Rodon game was the most bizarre, Curse of the BABIP God game they had all year. Rodon pitched like absolute garbage, walked six guys, and yet every bit of contact he gave up somehow went straight to somebody. Avi Garcia is like the worst defender in baseball and he made an amazing leaping catch. Alexei Ramirez was pretty close to the worst defender in baseball at the time that game was played and yet he made an amazing diving play/glove flip to double up Starlin. It was just a game where the inexplicable happened over and over.
I have no recollection of that game unless Lester started it, then I think I do. That's how huge that one was.
Lester started the second game against Chris Sale in that series. He gave up 2 runs in the first, then posted 5 scoreless innings and 8 strikeouts, then in the 7th Kris Bryant made an error trying for a double play that led to 1st and 3rd, no outs instead of a man on second and 1 out and Lester gave up 3 more runs. DipShitInHydePark lost his fucking mind over Lester not being elite and stuff.
And on Sunday Arrieta was the very essence of elite and stuff. I must have been working on that Friday and only following the score of the Rodon game. I attended the Hamels no-no and I was more angry at the Cubs fans cheering for Hamels than I was at the team's inability to scratch out a hit against him.
But yeah. Entire Mets series = Anger and Hate until I finally got drunk and went to bed.
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They're a 79-83 team without him, an 82-80 financially hamstrung team with him. The second option is more fun.
That's probably about right. But that's their best bet at this point -- build an 82-win true talent team, hope for a bit of good luck and get into a playoff series with Sale, Quintana and Rodon.
I can see Rodon pitching a big playoff shutout just as easily as I can see him walking the world Dempster style and getting Hammel'd in the first inning.
I think the Rodon start vs the Cubs at Wrigley was the most maddening game of the year. He just kept walking everybody, and then every ball they actually put in play went right to someone.
I thought Hamels' no-hitter was.
I think it's a tie between games 1-4 of the NLCS. But the ones you guys mentioned sucked too.
Eh, I define maddening a something other than your usual irritating loss. The NLCS loss was irritating as all get out but it wasn't inexplicable. The Mets had great pitching and the Cubs bats finally went cold.
The Rodon Game was maddening as in nothing about it made sense. He walked 6 guys and I think he even plunked a dude and got away with it becuase the Cubs kept hitting and running into an increasingly absurd series of double plays. It was one of those games where baseball just fucks with you because it can.
Dick Beard the Pirate's inexplicable hot streak made me angry. Every hard hit ball finding the glove of a New York Met made me angry. The Cubs' outfield defense going straight to hell made me angry. I got down on the floor and smacked the hardwood and swore on multiple occasions. If you handled the suffering differently, cool. I was mad.
Man of course I was mad. Who do you think you're talking to? I didn't mean to say the Rodon game was the single most infuriating game of the year, or whatever. For that matter it doesn't even compare to the May series in St. Louis or when Strop gave up that dong to Peralta.
I meant the Rodon game was the most bizarre, Curse of the BABIP God game they had all year. Rodon pitched like absolute garbage, walked six guys, and yet every bit of contact he gave up somehow went straight to somebody. Avi Garcia is like the worst defender in baseball and he made an amazing leaping catch. Alexei Ramirez was pretty close to the worst defender in baseball at the time that game was played and yet he made an amazing diving play/glove flip to double up Starlin. It was just a game where the inexplicable happened over and over.
I have no recollection of that game unless Lester started it, then I think I do. That's how huge that one was.
Lester started the second game against Chris Sale in that series. He gave up 2 runs in the first, then posted 5 scoreless innings and 8 strikeouts, then in the 7th Kris Bryant made an error trying for a double play that led to 1st and 3rd, no outs instead of a man on second and 1 out and Lester gave up 3 more runs. DipShitInHydePark lost his fucking mind over Lester not being elite and stuff.
And on Sunday Arrieta was the very essence of elite and stuff. I must have been working on that Friday and only following the score of the Rodon game. I attended the Hamels no-no and I was more angry at the Cubs fans cheering for Hamels than I was at the team's inability to scratch out a hit against him.
But yeah. Entire Mets series = Anger and Hate until I finally got drunk and went to bed.
Don't lie. You and Al were high-fiving in left field having witnessed history.
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And on Sunday Arrieta was the very essence of elite and stuff. I must have been working on that Friday and only following the score of the Rodon game. I attended the Hamels no-no and I was more angry at the Cubs fans cheering for Hamels than I was at the team's inability to scratch out a hit against him.
But yeah. Entire Mets series = Anger and Hate until I finally got drunk and went to bed.
Here's the box score: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN201507100.shtml
First inning: Rizzo walked with one out, Bryant GIDP, which was irritating because it rarely happens and if I remember correctly he hit the ball very hard, but oh well, shit happens.
Second inning: Denorfia walks with one out, Castro smokes a ball up the middle, and Alexei Ramirez who had been worth like -720 DRS to that point, give or take a few, managed an amazing diving stop and then glove-flipped the ball to 2B to get the DP. RAGE.
Third inning: Hendricks singles and advances to 2B with one out, Russell walks, then Fowler hits a ball to RF and Avi Garcia and his -30 DRS somehow makes an amazing diving shoe-string grab, then doubles off Hendricks.
Fourth inning: Bryant is on 2nd, Jorge on 1st with one out, Denorfia strikes out swinging and Kris Bryant is caught stealing 3rd base because fuck me who cares
Fifth inning: Cubs go 1-2-3 and I'm almost relieved because they didn't invent a new double play.
Sixth inning: Rodon walks two Cubs, but induces two hard lineouts from Rizzo and Soler that both went directly at Sox defenders.
Cubs ended up losing 1-0 on a sac fly by some fucker named JP Shuck or whatever.
Lmao at the Mets getting Cespedes for the Sox's desired three years.
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Lmao at the Mets getting Cespedes for the Sox's desired three years.
They whiffed on Upton too.
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Lmao at the Mets getting Cespedes for the Sox's desired three years.
They whiffed on Upton too.
I think Rosenthal made the mistake of thinking Phil Rogers knew what he was talking about because he parroted Phildo's line about the Sox being pretty much a guarantee to land Gordon, Upton, or Cespedes.
They'll probably sign Fowler and while he won't make them good it'll still make me kind of sad. I like Dex. He deserves better.
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Lmao at the Mets getting Cespedes for the Sox's desired three years.
They whiffed on Upton too.
I think Rosenthal made the mistake of thinking Phil Rogers knew what he was talking about because he parroted Phildo's line about the Sox being pretty much a guarantee to land Gordon, Upton, or Cespedes.
They'll probably sign Fowler and while he won't make them good it'll still make me kind of sad. I like Dex. He deserves better.
Yeah, nobody deserves that, least of all Dex, without whose contribution vs. Pittsburgh in the coinflip game the Cubs may well not have moved on. I wouldn't be able to look at the guy in a Sox uniform I'd feel so bad for him.
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Lmao at the Mets getting Cespedes for the Sox's desired three years.
They whiffed on Upton too.
I think Rosenthal made the mistake of thinking Phil Rogers knew what he was talking about because he parroted Phildo's line about the Sox being pretty much a guarantee to land Gordon, Upton, or Cespedes.
They'll probably sign Fowler and while he won't make them good it'll still make me kind of sad. I like Dex. He deserves better.
Yeah, nobody deserves that, least of all Dex, without whose contribution vs. Pittsburgh in the coinflip game the Cubs may well not have moved on. I wouldn't be able to look at the guy in a Sox uniform I'd feel so bad for him.
He and his millions of dollars to play baseball and live in Chicago will be ok. And we'll have a White Sox player to give a standing O to in his first AB at Wrigley like a bunch of total jags.
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Lmao at the Mets getting Cespedes for the Sox's desired three years.
They whiffed on Upton too.
I think Rosenthal made the mistake of thinking Phil Rogers knew what he was talking about because he parroted Phildo's line about the Sox being pretty much a guarantee to land Gordon, Upton, or Cespedes.
They'll probably sign Fowler and while he won't make them good it'll still make me kind of sad. I like Dex. He deserves better.
Yeah, nobody deserves that, least of all Dex, without whose contribution vs. Pittsburgh in the coinflip game the Cubs may well not have moved on. I wouldn't be able to look at the guy in a Sox uniform I'd feel so bad for him.
He and his millions of dollars to play baseball and live in Chicago will be ok. And we'll have a White Sox player to give a standing O to in his first AB at Wrigley like a bunch of total jags.
Most important to take everything super serious here. We absolutely expect a professional athlete to have the same childish attitude we have about our team's rival, you were right to come in here and correct us.
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Lmao at the Mets getting Cespedes for the Sox's desired three years.
They whiffed on Upton too.
I think Rosenthal made the mistake of thinking Phil Rogers knew what he was talking about because he parroted Phildo's line about the Sox being pretty much a guarantee to land Gordon, Upton, or Cespedes.
They'll probably sign Fowler and while he won't make them good it'll still make me kind of sad. I like Dex. He deserves better.
Yeah, nobody deserves that, least of all Dex, without whose contribution vs. Pittsburgh in the coinflip game the Cubs may well not have moved on. I wouldn't be able to look at the guy in a Sox uniform I'd feel so bad for him.
He and his millions of dollars to play baseball and live in Chicago will be ok. And we'll have a White Sox player to give a standing O to in his first AB at Wrigley like a bunch of total jags.
I laffed at this.
The Sox signed Jimmy Rollins to a minor league deal. Tyler Saladino most likely can't outhit Jimmy Rollins corpse so Jimmy probably wins the SS job for them.
I see a lot of Sox fans saying there's "no downside to this", which is true if you don't count being stuck with either Jimmy Rollins' corpse or Tyler Saladino as your starting SS as downside. The same could be set for the Latos move. They're banking on a lot of dead cat bounces from LaRoche, Cabrera, and Rollins (and also getting literally anything from the turd that is Avi Garcia) in order to contend.
I usually try not go full meatball on Jerry Reinsdorf but this whole offseason smells of him not being willing to commit the money they need to win. They claim it's because see the next 2-3 years as their window while Sale and Abreu are still good and they don't want to commit beyond that, but that excuse got shot to shit with Cespedes signing for three years, Fowler supposedly talking 2/24 with the Orioles, and Desmond seeming like he might be willing to sign a one year deal to try and reestablish his value. The whole offseason became a buyer's market pretty quickly and they still refuse to actually buy anything. I call bullshit, Jerry.
I am impressed with the amount of knowledge you folks have about the Sox. I know of only two guys who are playing for them, Appling and Minoso.
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I am impressed with the amount of knowledge you folks have about the Sox. I know of only two guys who are playing for them, Appling and Minoso.
And Nellie Fox.
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I am impressed with the amount of knowledge you folks have about the Sox. I know of only two guys who are playing for them, Appling and Minoso.
I find them interesting because it feels like watching the Hendry Cubs from the outside looking in. It's interesting to compare and contrast their way of doing things with the Cubs. Also I'm really bored.
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2016, 11:47:29 AM
The Sox signed Jimmy Rollins to a minor league deal. Tyler Saladino most likely can't outhit Jimmy Rollins corpse so Jimmy probably wins the SS job for them.
I see a lot of Sox fans saying there's "no downside to this", which is true if you don't count being stuck with either Jimmy Rollins' corpse or Tyler Saladino as your starting SS as downside. The same could be set for the Latos move. They're banking on a lot of dead cat bounces from LaRoche, Cabrera, and Rollins (and also getting literally anything from the turd that is Avi Garcia) in order to contend.
I usually try not go full meatball on Jerry Reinsdorf but this whole offseason smells of him not being willing to commit the money they need to win. They claim it's because see the next 2-3 years as their window while Sale and Abreu are still good and they don't want to commit beyond that, but that excuse got shot to shit with Cespedes signing for three years, Fowler supposedly talking 2/24 with the Orioles, and Desmond seeming like he might be willing to sign a one year deal to try and reestablish his value. The whole offseason became a buyer's market pretty quickly and they still refuse to actually buy anything. I call bullshit, Jerry.
If it were any other team I'd think they were taking flyers on these guys hoping they can flip them at the deadline. But they'll probably get just hot enough to pull within a game or two of .500 by then, so they'll stand pat.
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Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2016, 11:47:29 AM
The Sox signed Jimmy Rollins to a minor league deal. Tyler Saladino most likely can't outhit Jimmy Rollins corpse so Jimmy probably wins the SS job for them.
I see a lot of Sox fans saying there's "no downside to this", which is true if you don't count being stuck with either Jimmy Rollins' corpse or Tyler Saladino as your starting SS as downside. The same could be set for the Latos move. They're banking on a lot of dead cat bounces from LaRoche, Cabrera, and Rollins (and also getting literally anything from the turd that is Avi Garcia) in order to contend.
I usually try not go full meatball on Jerry Reinsdorf but this whole offseason smells of him not being willing to commit the money they need to win. They claim it's because see the next 2-3 years as their window while Sale and Abreu are still good and they don't want to commit beyond that, but that excuse got shot to shit with Cespedes signing for three years, Fowler supposedly talking 2/24 with the Orioles, and Desmond seeming like he might be willing to sign a one year deal to try and reestablish his value. The whole offseason became a buyer's market pretty quickly and they still refuse to actually buy anything. I call bullshit, Jerry.
If it were any other team I'd think they were taking flyers on these guys hoping they can flip them at the deadline. But they'll probably get just hot enough to pull within a game or two of .500 by then, so they'll stand pat.
Yeah they're trying to compete. If they are 9 games back come the deadline this year I think they'll be smarter about trading pieces than they were last year, but if they're a game or two under .500 and 5 games back I'm still not sure they'll have the balls to tear it down.
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
I don't think they're going to bad, that's the problem. Projections peg them as an 81-83 win team. They have two major black holes they could easily address: Avi Garcia's -1.3 WAR from last year in RF and SS. There are players who wouldn't require a major commitment in years like Fowler and Desmond who are available and instead they're dumpster diving for Rollins and talking up Garcia as BSOHL.
It would irritate me as a Sox fan to see them pass up easy opportunities to add marginal wins for reasons that appear to be entirely based on being cheap. Even if Fowler is a 2 win player for them that's a net gain of 3 wins over Garcia, same with Desmond vs. Rollins/Saladino.
Instead they're going to gamble on that 81-83 win projection and hope it's enough. They have no margin for error, either. If LaRoche and Cabrera don't bounce back at all, if Rodon doesn't take the expected leap forward in year two, if Latos is still cooked, if Rollins/Garcia still suck etc. they are fucked. They could give themselves more room for error and seem like they refuse to do so.
But who knows, maybe the Fowler-To-Baltimore rumor is just a rumor and not a foregone conclusion like it's supposedly been the last few days and the Sox are actually planning to swoop in and grab Dex. If so I take about 70% of this back
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I am impressed with the amount of knowledge you folks have about the Sox. I know of only two guys who are playing for them, Appling and Minoso.
I find them interesting because it feels like watching the Hendry Cubs from the outside looking in. It's interesting to compare and contrast their way of doing things with the Cubs. Also I'm really bored.
Concur with this completely. The smartest baseball fan I know beyond this board and the internets is a Sox fan who admits he enjoys watching the Cubs lose more than the Sox win. Even he is
thisclose to rooting for the Cubs, at least as long as this CHAMMENSHIP WINDER is open. Just a matter of time.
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
Cleveland's the best team in the division. With all that starting pitching, all they really need to get is one bat to pull away from the pack.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on February 22, 2016, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
Cleveland's the best team in the division. With all that starting pitching, all they really need to get is one bat to pull away from the pack.
Kluber/Carrasco/Salazar are great, Bauer is still more potential than production at this point and their 5th starter spot is questionable like almost everyone's. Their offense was bad last year, they're relying on a very old Juan Uribe at 3rd, and Brantley may not be healthy for the start of the season. They have as many question marks as everyone else in that division, including the White Sox.
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2016, 04:14:30 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on February 22, 2016, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
Cleveland's the best team in the division. With all that starting pitching, all they really need to get is one bat to pull away from the pack.
Kluber/Carrasco/Salazar are great, Bauer is still more potential than production at this point and their 5th starter spot is questionable like almost everyone's. Their offense was bad last year, they're relying on a very old Juan Uribe at 3rd, and Brantley may not be healthy for the start of the season. They have as many question marks as everyone else in that division, including the White Sox.
Seems for the last few years running Cleveland keeps getting picked to contend in the Central but disappoints once the games are played. I'll believe it when I see it.
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2016, 04:14:30 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on February 22, 2016, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
Cleveland's the best team in the division. With all that starting pitching, all they really need to get is one bat to pull away from the pack.
Kluber/Carrasco/Salazar are great, Bauer is still more potential than production at this point and their 5th starter spot is questionable like almost everyone's. Their offense was bad last year, they're relying on a very old Juan Uribe at 3rd, and Brantley may not be healthy for the start of the season. They have as many question marks as everyone else in that division, including the White Sox.
And I understand where the skepticism of the Royals comes from, but it's hard to argue with their last 350ish games. I don't think their Opening Day roster looks significantly worse/different than last year's.
ETA: In fact, it might be better due to the sheer fact that they got a combined -0.7 WAR from Alex Rios and Omar Infante last year.
Quote from: Eli on February 22, 2016, 07:44:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2016, 04:14:30 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on February 22, 2016, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
Cleveland's the best team in the division. With all that starting pitching, all they really need to get is one bat to pull away from the pack.
Kluber/Carrasco/Salazar are great, Bauer is still more potential than production at this point and their 5th starter spot is questionable like almost everyone's. Their offense was bad last year, they're relying on a very old Juan Uribe at 3rd, and Brantley may not be healthy for the start of the season. They have as many question marks as everyone else in that division, including the White Sox.
And I understand where the skepticism of the Royals comes from, but it's hard to argue with their last 350ish games. I don't think their Opening Day roster looks significantly worse/different than last year's.
ETA: In fact, it might be better due to the sheer fact that they got a combined -0.7 WAR from Alex Rios and Omar Infante last year.
Yeah but isn't Infante still projected as their starter at second? And who is in right? Orlando? Seems those are still black holes.
I mean my gut tells me the Royals and Indians are probably the two best teams, but I could buy an argument for any team in that division except maybe the Twins. Those 83 wins last year were lucky as hell and they don't have a single starting pitcher projected as even average this year.
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2016, 08:05:55 PM
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on February 22, 2016, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
Cleveland's the best team in the division. With all that starting pitching, all they really need to get is one bat to pull away from the pack.
Kluber/Carrasco/Salazar are great, Bauer is still more potential than production at this point and their 5th starter spot is questionable like almost everyone's. Their offense was bad last year, they're relying on a very old Juan Uribe at 3rd, and Brantley may not be healthy for the start of the season. They have as many question marks as everyone else in that division, including the White Sox.
And I understand where the skepticism of the Royals comes from, but it's hard to argue with their last 350ish games. I don't think their Opening Day roster looks significantly worse/different than last year's.
ETA: In fact, it might be better due to the sheer fact that they got a combined -0.7 WAR from Alex Rios and Omar Infante last year.
Yeah but isn't Infante still projected as their starter at second? And who is in right? Orlando? Seems those are still black holes.
I mean my gut tells me the Royals and Indians are probably the two best teams, but I could buy an argument for any team in that division except maybe the Twins. Those 83 wins last year were lucky as hell and they don't have a single starting pitcher projected as even average this year.
Infante does. He was kind of banged up last year, so I just assumed he could be bad instead of awful this year.
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Seriously, how can everyone not peg the Royals as the prohibitive favorite in that division? They've got good players and such and have come within 1 George Brett-sized hemorrhoid of consecutive World Series chammenships. I don't get it.
Quote from: PANK! on February 23, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
Seriously, how can everyone not peg the Royals as the prohibitive favorite in that division? They've got good players and such and have come within 1 George Brett-sized hemorrhoid of consecutive World Series chammenships. I don't get it.
Mostly because projection systems hate them and have a hard time pegging the exact worth of their two biggest strengths: defense and the bullpen. History told us there was no way a bullpen could repeat what the Royals did in 2014, and then they were pretty much just as good in 2015.
Also Hosmer, Moustakas, and Cain all had their career best years last year after the first two especially were pretty shitty in 2014, so any projection system is going to assume that their 2016 seasons are probably going to split the difference.
Basically they are on a two year stretch of a lot of really improbable things going right for them, and unless they have stolen the Cardinals magic (which would be awesome), it's got to end at some point?
Yeah I'm not buying it either. They win the division by ten.
Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2016, 11:49:56 AM
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Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
So with Fowler officially signing for three years for $33 million, which is a fucking steal, I have to again reiterate that this entire White Sox offseason can be summed up as "Reinsdorf is a fucking cheapskate."
They first claimed they weren't going after any outfielders who wanted more than 3 years to explain why they weren't in on Heyward/Gordon/Upton, but then that bit them on the ass when Cespedes, Span, and Fowler have all signed for 3 years.
They can say they didn't want to give up a draft pick for Fowler, but neither Cespedes or Span would have cost a pick. They're going to bank on an 81 win true talent team getting enough lucky breaks to make the playoffs and not waste another year of Sale/Abreu's primes because they'd rather let Avi Garcia spike himself in the dick in right field than pay barely $10 mil a year for Span or $11 mil for Fowler.
Meanwhile the Sun Times is still somewhere writing another column about how the Heyward contract shouldn't fool you into thinking the Ricketts aren't still cheap and terrible and stuff.
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Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Quote from: Oleg on February 24, 2016, 09:19:00 AM
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Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
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Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
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Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox
schadenfreude.
Quote from: PANK! on February 25, 2016, 09:48:52 AM
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Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox schadenfreude.
Sox Paul.
Quote from: InternetApex on February 25, 2016, 10:29:49 AM
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Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2016, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox schadenfreude.
Sox Paul.
Pretty sure Sox Paul is a regular Score caller who is EXTRA pissed off that the lovable loosers (sic) are gonna be clogging up the Score's airwaves all year. I think Chris Rongey offed himself, too.
Quote from: Slaky on February 25, 2016, 12:26:29 PM
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Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2016, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox schadenfreude.
Sox Paul.
Pretty sure Sox Paul is a regular Score caller who is EXTRA pissed off that the lovable loosers (sic) are gonna be clogging up the Score's airwaves all year. I think Chris Rongey offed himself, too.
Pretty sure Chris Rongey is happy as fuck that 670 no longer broadcasts Sox games and he doesn't have to take calls from a long line of mouthbreathing idiots after every game.
Quote from: PANK! on February 25, 2016, 01:20:25 PM
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Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox schadenfreude.
Sox Paul.
Pretty sure Sox Paul is a regular Score caller who is EXTRA pissed off that the lovable loosers (sic) are gonna be clogging up the Score's airwaves all year. I think Chris Rongey offed himself, too.
Pretty sure Chris Rongey is happy as fuck that 670 no longer broadcasts Sox games and he doesn't have to take calls from a long line of mouthbreathing idiots after every game.
That was the only thing remotely enjoyable about Sox broadcasts, honestly.
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Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox schadenfreude.
Sox Paul.
Pretty sure Sox Paul is a regular Score caller who is EXTRA pissed off that the lovable loosers (sic) are gonna be clogging up the Score's airwaves all year. I think Chris Rongey offed himself, too.
Pretty sure Chris Rongey is happy as fuck that 670 no longer broadcasts Sox games and he doesn't have to take calls from a long line of mouthbreathing idiots after every game.
That was the only thing remotely enjoyable about Sox broadcasts, honestly.
People actually listen to those?
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Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2016, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox schadenfreude.
Sox Paul.
Pretty sure Sox Paul is a regular Score caller who is EXTRA pissed off that the lovable loosers (sic) are gonna be clogging up the Score's airwaves all year. I think Chris Rongey offed himself, too.
Pretty sure Chris Rongey is happy as fuck that 670 no longer broadcasts Sox games and he doesn't have to take calls from a long line of mouthbreathing idiots after every game.
That was the only thing remotely enjoyable about Sox broadcasts, honestly.
People actually listen to those?
Just to get directions on how to get away from them.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 25, 2016, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: Slaky on February 25, 2016, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 25, 2016, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on February 25, 2016, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 25, 2016, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on February 25, 2016, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 25, 2016, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 24, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 24, 2016, 09:19:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2016, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox schadenfreude.
Sox Paul.
Pretty sure Sox Paul is a regular Score caller who is EXTRA pissed off that the lovable loosers (sic) are gonna be clogging up the Score's airwaves all year. I think Chris Rongey offed himself, too.
Pretty sure Chris Rongey is happy as fuck that 670 no longer broadcasts Sox games and he doesn't have to take calls from a long line of mouthbreathing idiots after every game.
That was the only thing remotely enjoyable about Sox broadcasts, honestly.
People actually listen to those?
Catch them on TV, where you can hear, "He gone!"
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2016, 03:12:52 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 25, 2016, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: Slaky on February 25, 2016, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 25, 2016, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on February 25, 2016, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 25, 2016, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on February 25, 2016, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 25, 2016, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 24, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 24, 2016, 09:19:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2016, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 23, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 22, 2016, 12:55:25 PM
I think anyone here who's expecting the Sox to be bad are going to be disappointed. They have just as good of a shot to win their division (and the pennant) as any other team in the AL.
You're an idiot
That seems like the kind of quote that should follow Oleg around like a wet fart as the Sox lumber toward their inevitable 79 win, 4th place finish. Can't wait.
Wait...there might be an explanation for this. Oleg, are you banging a sox fan?
Neh. Maybe all the pot is finally calming my nerves.
Or all that time in Menver made you forget what it's like to co-exist with Sox fans in-season.
All it takes for me to wish them ill is one post from that smelly dude on Huey and Oleg's Facebook. Craig something but not Sox Craig from Cody's softball. I have never met him but there is no way that guy doesn't stink in person. And he's just one guy out of ten or twenty thousand Sox fans in the world.
He's pretty awful and his existence provides the source of most of my Sox schadenfreude.
Sox Paul.
Pretty sure Sox Paul is a regular Score caller who is EXTRA pissed off that the lovable loosers (sic) are gonna be clogging up the Score's airwaves all year. I think Chris Rongey offed himself, too.
Pretty sure Chris Rongey is happy as fuck that 670 no longer broadcasts Sox games and he doesn't have to take calls from a long line of mouthbreathing idiots after every game.
That was the only thing remotely enjoyable about Sox broadcasts, honestly.
People actually listen to those?
Catch them on TV, where you can hear, "He gone!"
Only at away games this year
Will Jerry Reinsdorf pay for Drake LaRoche's therapy?
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 16, 2016, 09:52:54 PM
Will Jerry Reinsdorf pay for Drake LaRoche's therapy?
On the one hand I totally side with any White Sox players who got tired of having a shithead 14 year old around every goddamn day. On the other hand it sounds like the White Sox basically guaranteed LaRoche he could have his shithead kid around every goddamn day before he signed, so this is kind of a shit move on their part. On the other other hand if all Theo had to do to get Edwin Jackson to walk away from his contract and leave all that money on the table last year was ban his shithead kid I'd have wanted Theo to hold a presser on national TV calling the shithead kid a shithead kid until the shithead kid cried like a little bitch.
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
Lord knows there's more jebus in a locker room full of dongs.
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
Yeti - can you jump in and let us know how this works?
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
If the kid is required to crack open a god damn book every night and read after being at the ballpark every day, I'd have no real problem with what LaRoche said. But LaRoche is a fucking weirdo who batted .220 last year. The coverage on Sportscenter this morning showed the soundbites from Kenny Williams and pictures of the kid looking happy as a clam on the field with his dad. There was soft, dramatic musical behind the images. It was fucking revolting and reminded me of about 45 dads I know on Facebook who can't get enough of themselves for how great they are at being a Dad. My Dad never did that kind of shit and I love the shit out of him. He'd hop in a car full of drunk dudes and head to the golf course or the Bears game on a Sunday morning while I was stuck going to church with my mom and sisters. And I'd think, he's so awesome, I can't wait to be a man so I can do that. Now I go to church AND Bears games so both my parents did right without giving themselves a reach-around every time I took a crap on a real toilet.
If you're a dad and you love your kid, you're awesome. Let them tell you all about it and leave us the fuck alone.
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
Life lessons like "if you can't get what you want, you walk away from making $13 million for a season of playing baseball."
Quote from: InternetApex on March 17, 2016, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
If the kid is required to crack open a god damn book every night and read after being at the ballpark every day, I'd have no real problem with what LaRoche said. But LaRoche is a fucking weirdo who batted .220 last year. The coverage on Sportscenter this morning showed the soundbites from Kenny Williams and pictures of the kid looking happy as a clam on the field with his dad. There was soft, dramatic musical behind the images. It was fucking revolting and reminded me of about 45 dads I know on Facebook who can't get enough of themselves for how great they are at being a Dad. My Dad never did that kind of shit and I love the shit out of him. He'd hop in a car full of drunk dudes and head to the golf course or the Bears game on a Sunday morning while I was stuck going to church with my mom and sisters. And I'd think, he's so awesome, I can't wait to be a man so I can do that. Now I go to church AND Bears games so both my parents did right without giving themselves a reach-around every time I took a crap on a real toilet.
If you're a dad and you love your kid, you're awesome. Let them tell you all about it and leave us the fuck alone.
Ah miss you.
Why are you not posting in the Better Call Saul thread, damnit. That's the best thing in the world right now.
Just wanted to pop in say the White Sox are right here.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2016, 12:04:28 PM
Just wanted to pop in say the White Sox are right here.
I think they're right but is there anyway they'd be having this discussion if LaRoche had hit 30 homers last year? Doubtful.
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 12:05:34 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2016, 12:04:28 PM
Just wanted to pop in say the White Sox are right here.
I think they're right but is there anyway they'd be having this discussion if LaRoche had hit 30 homers last year? Doubtful.
Merely asking him to scale back his 14 year old son's presence in the locker room of Spring Training? I think so. MLB is not the public sector, but sometimes commonplace workplace rules do transcend
Quote from: PANK! on March 17, 2016, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 17, 2016, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
If the kid is required to crack open a god damn book every night and read after being at the ballpark every day, I'd have no real problem with what LaRoche said. But LaRoche is a fucking weirdo who batted .220 last year. The coverage on Sportscenter this morning showed the soundbites from Kenny Williams and pictures of the kid looking happy as a clam on the field with his dad. There was soft, dramatic musical behind the images. It was fucking revolting and reminded me of about 45 dads I know on Facebook who can't get enough of themselves for how great they are at being a Dad. My Dad never did that kind of shit and I love the shit out of him. He'd hop in a car full of drunk dudes and head to the golf course or the Bears game on a Sunday morning while I was stuck going to church with my mom and sisters. And I'd think, he's so awesome, I can't wait to be a man so I can do that. Now I go to church AND Bears games so both my parents did right without giving themselves a reach-around every time I took a crap on a real toilet.
If you're a dad and you love your kid, you're awesome. Let them tell you all about it and leave us the fuck alone.
Ah miss you.
Why are you not posting in the Better Call Saul thread, damnit. That's the best thing in the world right now.
I'm an episode behind. :0(
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that when he's gone from school for long stretches they just get course/homework from the teachers and make him do it on the road.
Quote from: CT III on March 17, 2016, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that when he's gone from school for long stretches they just get course/homework from the teachers and make him do it on the road.
Oh, no problem then, should work out fine.
Kid will be perfectly well adjusted.
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: CT III on March 17, 2016, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that when he's gone from school for long stretches they just get course/homework from the teachers and make him do it on the road.
Oh, no problem then, should work out fine.
Kid will be perfectly well adjusted.
Maybe he just doesn't want the kid in school because once he can calculate statistics, he can see how much his dad sucks.
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: CT III on March 17, 2016, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that when he's gone from school for long stretches they just get course/homework from the teachers and make him do it on the road.
Oh, no problem then, should work out fine.
Kid will be perfectly well adjusted.
I don't care about LaDouche or his kid. I just hope this is private school that he is skipping out on. I hate to see the public school system getting blamed for this.
(http://i.imgur.com/s0PSE1l.jpg)
Quote from: CBStew on March 17, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: CT III on March 17, 2016, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: flannj on March 17, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
It would be cool to hang out with your pro athlete dad at work every once in a while, but insisting your kid is there every single day is weird. But LaRoche is a big jebus guy and probably doesn't want him in school learning about all that science stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ct6u9E.jpg)
"We're not big on school" are words that dude said when talking about his kid. And he was serious. We're lucky this Trump thing hasn't happened sooner.
What's funny is they are rich as hell now, and in America that basically validates every choice they make. That kid's never going to need an education to live a good life, so why would ever accept that education is necessary?
What are the legalities of this. Don't kids have to meet some criteria of education before they are 16?
I know home schooling and all that but isn't there some level of proficiency they have to demonstrate?
I just assume there is but honestly I really have no idea.
I'm sure he's home schooled but considering we allow home schooled kids to pass those tests even if they think science is a lie and the earth is 6,000 years old the standards aren't exactly rigorous.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that when he's gone from school for long stretches they just get course/homework from the teachers and make him do it on the road.
Oh, no problem then, should work out fine.
Kid will be perfectly well adjusted.
I don't care about LaDouche or his kid. I just hope this is private school that he is skipping out on. I hate to see the public school system getting blamed for this.
That's the thing. This guy was going to make $13 mildo for being shitty at his job. You can't tell me that for that amount of annual pay he couldn't find a private school that was Jesusy enough for little Puggsley?
Quote from: Slaky on March 18, 2016, 12:23:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/s0PSE1l.jpg)
Now it's here forever. YES!
It seems like the Sox are primed for the miracle workings of Mac Newton, motivational speaker.
Quote from: Bort on March 18, 2016, 07:43:10 PM
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Quote from: Slaky on March 18, 2016, 12:23:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/s0PSE1l.jpg)
Now it's here forever. YES!
This is my new favorite everything.
Internet Chuck's essence distilled to 140 characters.
Reinsdorf's unconditional loyalty to his guys is killing him here. His clubhouse is ready to revolt because Kenny Williams, who is supposedly semi-retired, in the background, and no longer running the team, just can't help himself when it comes to asserting his authority. He's been cutting Rick Hahn's balls off several times a year since stepping aside by saying things about some three-year plan (or five, I can't even remember his bullshit now) and saying Rick is still on training wheels, not ready to be the big boss like the great Kenny Williams quite yet.
Now Kenny's coming all the way down from the executive suites to personally tell players how to act in their own clubhouse. (What exactly is Robin Ventura's job then?) This is not even about LaRoche and his yokel son at this point. No wonder Chris Sale is pissed off. They've pretty much refused to put any talent around him throughout his career and now they want to control what he does in his own space too. This story is awesome and so, so White Sox.
I'm sure Theo would love to take Sale off their hands if he's going to be such a clubhouse cancer.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 19, 2016, 01:43:27 PM
Reinsdorf's unconditional loyalty to his guys is killing him here. His clubhouse is ready to revolt because Kenny Williams, who is supposedly semi-retired, in the background, and no longer running the team, just can't help himself when it comes to asserting his authority. He's been cutting Rick Hahn's balls off several times a year since stepping aside by saying things about some three-year plan (or five, I can't even remember his bullshit now) and saying Rick is still on training wheels, not ready to be the big boss like the great Kenny Williams quite yet.
Now Kenny's coming all the way down from the executive suites to personally tell players how to act in their own clubhouse. (What exactly is Robin Ventura's job then?) This is not even about LaRoche and his yokel son at this point. No wonder Chris Sale is pissed off. They've pretty much refused to put any talent around him throughout his career and now they want to control what he does in his own space too. This story is awesome and so, so White Sox.
I'm sure Theo would love to take Sale off their hands if he's going to be such a clubhouse cancer.
Hey Oleg, how you feeling about your beloved Sox now?
This is the one of the greatest scandals in baseball history. I give it a 9/10 but reserve the right to raise that to a Perfect 10 if Sale manages to parlay his way out of town.
Meanwhile, this is how adults handle things: Set clear expectations and empower the players to police their own clubhouse. What a concept.
QuoteThe Cubs manager plans to hold his "Lead Bull Meeting" with a group of veteran players on Sunday, discussing everything from dress codes to travel issues to who belongs in the clubhouse.
"My concept is once we leave that room, we're all on the same page when it comes to policy," Maddon said. "You know I don't like the word 'rules.' I like to create policy and how we're going to conduct ourselves, how we're going to act.
"And then I believe it's among the more experienced guys on your team to make sure that it's adhered to. It's not about me to do that. It's not about the coaching staff to do that. It's among the players.
"That's a part of our overarching philosophy here, to treat you like a man, give you all the freedoms that you need. And in return, I believe we get greater respect and discipline."
DPD. Adults handle it like Joe Maddon, but kids put kids in charge?
Quote"Drake was more than just a kid that came to the clubhouse," Eaton said. "He did more for people than we did for him by having him there every day. It's a difficult dynamic to understand, and that's why there's such a strong outreach for us.
"We lost a leader in Drake, which is crazy enough that a 14-year-old could be looked at like that, but the kid was so tremendous."
In that clubhouse, when 14-year-old Drake spoke up, the White Sox listened. Leadership.
QuoteLosing the LaRoches is something that created a contentious atmosphere in the White Sox clubhouse this week at spring training. When executive vice president Kenny Williams asked that LaRoche minimize his son's presence from its prior stature of nearly every day, LaRoche responded with his retirement.
Teammates like Eaton will miss the presence of both LaRoches. When Eaton found himself mired in an early season slump last year, he turned to Adam, something for which he remains truly grateful.
"I don't know who to turn to, who to talk to," Eaton said. "I don't know which way is up, which way is down, I just know I'm getting thrown in the fire for another 0-for. I don't know where to go ... I went to that man, and that man called [sic] me down. He said, 'You know what? Here's how we handle this, here's how we get through it.' He did this on more than one occasion with more than one person.
"That's the person we needed in the clubhouse this year."
Why didn't Adam LaRoche tell that to himself?
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
I think it depends on the sport, too. Baseball is a sport of conservatives, for sure. They're Jesus-y and white
I feel like this applies here. Also, this might be my bias against white Jesus-y people but I feel confident that those that come out in favor of Drake are going to be the white hick players
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 19, 2016, 06:47:58 PM
DPD. Adults handle it like Joe Maddon, but kids put kids in charge?
Quote"Drake was more than just a kid that came to the clubhouse," Eaton said. "He did more for people than we did for him by having him there every day. It's a difficult dynamic to understand, and that's why there's such a strong outreach for us.
"We lost a leader in Drake, which is crazy enough that a 14-year-old could be looked at like that, but the kid was so tremendous."
In that clubhouse, when 14-year-old Drake spoke up, the White Sox listened. Leadership.
QuoteLosing the LaRoches is something that created a contentious atmosphere in the White Sox clubhouse this week at spring training. When executive vice president Kenny Williams asked that LaRoche minimize his son's presence from its prior stature of nearly every day, LaRoche responded with his retirement.
Teammates like Eaton will miss the presence of both LaRoches. When Eaton found himself mired in an early season slump last year, he turned to Adam, something for which he remains truly grateful.
"I don't know who to turn to, who to talk to," Eaton said. "I don't know which way is up, which way is down, I just know I'm getting thrown in the fire for another 0-for. I don't know where to go ... I went to that man, and that man called [sic] me down. He said, 'You know what? Here's how we handle this, here's how we get through it.' He did this on more than one occasion with more than one person.
"That's the person we needed in the clubhouse this year."
Why didn't Adam LaRoche tell that to himself?
I don't think Adam Eaton should be allowed to go anywhere without his helmet.
This is great. (http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/987854)
Quote from: Oleg on March 21, 2016, 01:48:27 PM
This is great. (http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/987854)
Are they talking about the Dalai Lama or a 14 year old public school dropout?
Quote from: Oleg on March 21, 2016, 01:48:27 PM
This is great. (http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/987854)
8/10
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on March 22, 2016, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 21, 2016, 01:48:27 PM
This is great. (http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/987854)
8/10
I got 7 and I can't believe any of those were said about LaRouche.
I refuse to read ESPN's piece of shit Adam LaRoche story (http://deadspin.com/espns-insane-adam-laroche-puff-piece-features-laroche-l-1770710009) and recommend reading Drew Magary's takedown instead. What a freaking weirdo Adam LaRoche is.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 14, 2016, 01:30:36 AM
I refuse to read ESPN's piece of shit Adam LaRoche story (http://deadspin.com/espns-insane-adam-laroche-puff-piece-features-laroche-l-1770710009) and recommend reading Drew Magary's takedown instead. What a freaking weirdo Adam LaRoche is.
Yeah, he most definitely spent a month around under-aged Thai hookers for purely humanitarian reasons. Yessir.
Quote from: SKO on April 14, 2016, 08:06:42 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 14, 2016, 01:30:36 AM
I refuse to read ESPN's piece of shit Adam LaRoche story (http://deadspin.com/espns-insane-adam-laroche-puff-piece-features-laroche-l-1770710009) and recommend reading Drew Magary's takedown instead. What a freaking weirdo Adam LaRoche is.
Yeah, he most definitely spent a month around under-aged Thai hookers for purely humanitarian reasons. Yessir.
Just like Gil only gives strippers money to help pay for their tuition.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 14, 2016, 08:28:07 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 14, 2016, 08:06:42 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 14, 2016, 01:30:36 AM
I refuse to read ESPN's piece of shit Adam LaRoche story (http://deadspin.com/espns-insane-adam-laroche-puff-piece-features-laroche-l-1770710009) and recommend reading Drew Magary's takedown instead. What a freaking weirdo Adam LaRoche is.
Yeah, he most definitely spent a month around under-aged Thai hookers for purely humanitarian reasons. Yessir.
Just like Gil only gives strippers money to help pay for their tuition.
That Magary takedown is fantastic.
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
How is that sexist? Asking for a friend.
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Probably... However, the plus side is that CJ felt it necessary to blog about Keith Law ripping him for it.
http://www.cjbaseball.com/2016/04/19/espn-keith-laws-attempt-to-defame-me-highlights-dangers-of-social-media-overreactions/
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Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
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Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Probably... However, the plus side is that CJ felt it necessary to blog about Keith Law ripping him for it.
http://www.cjbaseball.com/2016/04/19/espn-keith-laws-attempt-to-defame-me-highlights-dangers-of-social-media-overreactions/
The shamer getting shamed and is now angry
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Despite the absence of an apology you're forgiven Keith.
Also, I have to block you on Twitter since you wrongly took one of my tweets and tried to smear my name to 450,000 people. I'll miss you. No hard feelings.
Intrepid Reader Al YellonLSA!
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Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Probably... However, the plus side is that CJ felt it necessary to blog about Keith Law ripping him for it.
http://www.cjbaseball.com/2016/04/19/espn-keith-laws-attempt-to-defame-me-highlights-dangers-of-social-media-overreactions/
The shamer getting shamed and is now angry
Quote
Despite the absence of an apology you're forgiven Keith.
Also, I have to block you on Twitter since you wrongly took one of my tweets and tried to smear my name to 450,000 people. I'll miss you. No hard feelings.
Intrepid Reader Al Yellon
LSA!
Undoubtedly this is a guy who has mocked millenials as the generation that's too sensitive and gets offended by everything.
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 03:13:56 PM
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Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Probably... However, the plus side is that CJ felt it necessary to blog about Keith Law ripping him for it.
http://www.cjbaseball.com/2016/04/19/espn-keith-laws-attempt-to-defame-me-highlights-dangers-of-social-media-overreactions/
The shamer getting shamed and is now angry
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Despite the absence of an apology you're forgiven Keith.
Also, I have to block you on Twitter since you wrongly took one of my tweets and tried to smear my name to 450,000 people. I'll miss you. No hard feelings.
Intrepid Reader Al Yellon
LSA!
Undoubtedly this is a guy who has mocked millenials as the generation that's too sensitive and gets offended by everything.
I dunno. I gotta tell ya, I couldn't pick CJ Nitkowski out of a lineup, I only vaguely recall him as hard-throwing American League pitcher but--especially for an ex-athlete-- he articulates his case pretty well here and I don't think you have to be a raging sexist to think that Law
may have been overreacting (though Twitter I'm sure has already delivered its verdict).
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 03:13:56 PM
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Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Probably... However, the plus side is that CJ felt it necessary to blog about Keith Law ripping him for it.
http://www.cjbaseball.com/2016/04/19/espn-keith-laws-attempt-to-defame-me-highlights-dangers-of-social-media-overreactions/
The shamer getting shamed and is now angry
Quote
Despite the absence of an apology you're forgiven Keith.
Also, I have to block you on Twitter since you wrongly took one of my tweets and tried to smear my name to 450,000 people. I'll miss you. No hard feelings.
Intrepid Reader Al Yellon
LSA!
Undoubtedly this is a guy who has mocked millenials as the generation that's too sensitive and gets offended by everything.
I dunno. I gotta tell ya, I couldn't pick CJ Nitkowski out of a lineup, I only vaguely recall him as hard-throwing American League pitcher but--especially for an ex-athlete-- he articulates his case pretty well here and I don't think you have to be a raging sexist to think that Law may have been overreacting (though Twitter I'm sure has already delivered its verdict).
It's possible Law (and I) read too much into the fact that the person he was shaming was a woman (although I like him playing the GOLLY GEE HOW COULD YOU ASSUME THAT'S A WOMAN when it clearly is), but it was a dickish thing to do regardless, as though you're just an ungrateful kid if you dare check your phone at a baseball game while your team is behind 7 runs. Hell, for all he knows she was checking a dude's stats on B-Ref or something.
To get called on being a dick, and then respond with a rant that long-winded and butthurt saying NO YOU ARE THE DICKS, is pretty ridiculous.
Also Nitkowski is a pretty clear meatball, as he was one of the guys writing the "umm, actually Bryce Harper deserved to get choked" columns last year. His rage toward the younger generation is pretty clear.
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Probably... However, the plus side is that CJ felt it necessary to blog about Keith Law ripping him for it.
http://www.cjbaseball.com/2016/04/19/espn-keith-laws-attempt-to-defame-me-highlights-dangers-of-social-media-overreactions/
The shamer getting shamed and is now angry
Quote
Despite the absence of an apology you're forgiven Keith.
Also, I have to block you on Twitter since you wrongly took one of my tweets and tried to smear my name to 450,000 people. I'll miss you. No hard feelings.
Intrepid Reader Al Yellon
LSA!
Undoubtedly this is a guy who has mocked millenials as the generation that's too sensitive and gets offended by everything.
I dunno. I gotta tell ya, I couldn't pick CJ Nitkowski out of a lineup, I only vaguely recall him as hard-throwing American League pitcher but--especially for an ex-athlete-- he articulates his case pretty well here and I don't think you have to be a raging sexist to think that Law may have been overreacting (though Twitter I'm sure has already delivered its verdict).
It's possible Law (and I) read too much into the fact that the person he was shaming was a woman (although I like him playing the GOLLY GEE HOW COULD YOU ASSUME THAT'S A WOMAN when it clearly is), but it was a dickish thing to do regardless, as though you're just an ungrateful kid if you dare check your phone at a baseball game while your team is behind 7 runs. Hell, for all he knows she was checking a dude's stats on B-Ref or something.
To get called on being a dick, and then respond with a rant that long-winded and butthurt saying NO YOU ARE THE DICKS, is pretty ridiculous.
Also Nitkowski is a pretty clear meatball, as he was one of the guys writing the "umm, actually Bryce Harper deserved to get choked" columns last year. His rage toward the younger generation is pretty clear.
Yep...all of this.
Nitkowski's hypocrisy is the issue. And, on another point, SKO is absolutely right. None of us have any idea what that woman is doing on the phone. We see a quick shot and that's it. It's the same laziness and triteness that is used to criticize Cutler ("We saw him for a 4 second shot and he was scowling and, therefore, he's not a leader!!!!).
I wil give you this, Nitkowski is much more articulate than Jim Bowden on MLB Network radio. So, there's that.
Quote from: Oleg on April 19, 2016, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 03:13:56 PM
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Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Probably... However, the plus side is that CJ felt it necessary to blog about Keith Law ripping him for it.
http://www.cjbaseball.com/2016/04/19/espn-keith-laws-attempt-to-defame-me-highlights-dangers-of-social-media-overreactions/
The shamer getting shamed and is now angry
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Despite the absence of an apology you're forgiven Keith.
Also, I have to block you on Twitter since you wrongly took one of my tweets and tried to smear my name to 450,000 people. I'll miss you. No hard feelings.
Intrepid Reader Al Yellon
LSA!
Undoubtedly this is a guy who has mocked millenials as the generation that's too sensitive and gets offended by everything.
I dunno. I gotta tell ya, I couldn't pick CJ Nitkowski out of a lineup, I only vaguely recall him as hard-throwing American League pitcher but--especially for an ex-athlete-- he articulates his case pretty well here and I don't think you have to be a raging sexist to think that Law may have been overreacting (though Twitter I'm sure has already delivered its verdict).
It's possible Law (and I) read too much into the fact that the person he was shaming was a woman (although I like him playing the GOLLY GEE HOW COULD YOU ASSUME THAT'S A WOMAN when it clearly is), but it was a dickish thing to do regardless, as though you're just an ungrateful kid if you dare check your phone at a baseball game while your team is behind 7 runs. Hell, for all he knows she was checking a dude's stats on B-Ref or something.
To get called on being a dick, and then respond with a rant that long-winded and butthurt saying NO YOU ARE THE DICKS, is pretty ridiculous.
Also Nitkowski is a pretty clear meatball, as he was one of the guys writing the "umm, actually Bryce Harper deserved to get choked" columns last year. His rage toward the younger generation is pretty clear.
Yep...all of this.
Nitkowski's hypocrisy is the issue. And, on another point, SKO is absolutely right. None of us have any idea what that woman is doing on the phone. We see a quick shot and that's it. It's the same laziness and triteness that is used to criticize Cutler ("We saw him for a 4 second shot and he was scowling and, therefore, he's not a leader!!!!).
I wil give you this, Nitkowski is much more articulate than Jim Bowden on MLB Network radio. So, there's that.
Except Cutler is terrible for like 100 reasons, like wearing his helmet too low and not vaccinating his kids and being a general dick and a crappy QB who throws lazy picks all the time.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 19, 2016, 04:00:22 PM
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Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 19, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/CJNitkowski/status/722258623221465088
I'm not sure what's funnier, Nitkowski again outing himself as a sexist meatball (golly gee, no way the woman actually paid for her own tickets to a sportsball game), or the fact that it was a ticket to a Monday night game at Comiskular and probably cost like 20 dollars.
That's your takeaway? I would take that as him just hating millennials, because people love to hate millennials.
I mean yeah, the millennial hate is probably the root, but there's probably some "no way the girl in the pink hat bought her own ticket to a baseball game" in there.
Probably... However, the plus side is that CJ felt it necessary to blog about Keith Law ripping him for it.
http://www.cjbaseball.com/2016/04/19/espn-keith-laws-attempt-to-defame-me-highlights-dangers-of-social-media-overreactions/
The shamer getting shamed and is now angry
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Despite the absence of an apology you’re forgiven Keith.
Also, I have to block you on Twitter since you wrongly took one of my tweets and tried to smear my name to 450,000 people. I’ll miss you. No hard feelings.
Intrepid Reader Al Yellon
LSA!
Undoubtedly this is a guy who has mocked millenials as the generation that's too sensitive and gets offended by everything.
I dunno. I gotta tell ya, I couldn't pick CJ Nitkowski out of a lineup, I only vaguely recall him as hard-throwing American League pitcher but--especially for an ex-athlete-- he articulates his case pretty well here and I don't think you have to be a raging sexist to think that Law may have been overreacting (though Twitter I'm sure has already delivered its verdict).
It's possible Law (and I) read too much into the fact that the person he was shaming was a woman (although I like him playing the GOLLY GEE HOW COULD YOU ASSUME THAT'S A WOMAN when it clearly is), but it was a dickish thing to do regardless, as though you're just an ungrateful kid if you dare check your phone at a baseball game while your team is behind 7 runs. Hell, for all he knows she was checking a dude's stats on B-Ref or something.
To get called on being a dick, and then respond with a rant that long-winded and butthurt saying NO YOU ARE THE DICKS, is pretty ridiculous.
Also Nitkowski is a pretty clear meatball, as he was one of the guys writing the "umm, actually Bryce Harper deserved to get choked" columns last year. His rage toward the younger generation is pretty clear.
Yep...all of this.
Nitkowski's hypocrisy is the issue. And, on another point, SKO is absolutely right. None of us have any idea what that woman is doing on the phone. We see a quick shot and that's it. It's the same laziness and triteness that is used to criticize Cutler ("We saw him for a 4 second shot and he was scowling and, therefore, he's not a leader!!!!).
I wil give you this, Nitkowski is much more articulate than Jim Bowden on MLB Network radio. So, there's that.
Except Cutler is terrible for like 100 reasons, like wearing his helmet too low and not vaccinating his kids and being a general dick and a crappy QB who throws lazy picks all the time.
One of these is not like the others. Maybe two.
How was CJ Nitkowski never a White Sox? Mediocre red-assed dolts past their prime (if they ever had a prime to begin with) are kinda their specialty, no? I can almost hear Hawk telling me how CJ's got the best 1-2 curveball to throw to a line drive-hitting lefty he's ever seen (promptly gives up grand slam).
Can't we instead chortle at the woman wearing a Sox fan at U.S. Cellular, you know, that Major League Park with real amenities that only real baseball fans go to, not that outdoor beer garden filled with Chads and Trixies on the North Side where everyone at Wrigley is on their cell phone not paying attention to the game?
You go ahead on some social crusade -- my life's too short to really think much about C.J. Nitkowski, let alone decide if he's sexist, ageist, or just someone trying to be funny. I will save that photo and wait for the intelligence-challenged White Sox fans in my life to comment on Cubs fans not paying attention to the game and send them Exhibit A for the defense.
Quote from: Brownie on April 19, 2016, 05:54:47 PM
Can't we instead chortle at the woman wearing a Sox fan at U.S. Cellular, you know, that Major League Park with real amenities that only real baseball fans go to, not that outdoor beer garden filled with Chads and Trixies on the North Side where everyone at Wrigley is on their cell phone not paying attention to the game?
You go ahead on some social crusade -- my life's too short to really think much about C.J. Nitkowski, let alone decide if he's sexist, ageist, or just someone trying to be funny. I will save that photo and wait for the intelligence-challenged White Sox fans in my life to comment on Cubs fans not paying attention to the game and send them Exhibit A for the defense.
This was honestly the first thing I thought of when I saw the photo.
I have May 8 as White Sox Fall Below .500 Day. Anyone care to bet they make it sooner?
Quote from: InternetApex on April 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
I have May 8 as White Sox Fall Below .500 Day. Anyone care to bet they make it sooner?
I don't care enough to even think about it but I'll laugh the day it finally happens.
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Quote from: InternetApex on April 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
I have May 8 as White Sox Fall Below .500 Day. Anyone care to bet they make it sooner?
I don't care enough to even think about it but I'll laugh the day it finally happens.
Co-sign.
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Quote from: InternetApex on April 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
I have May 8 as White Sox Fall Below .500 Day. Anyone care to bet they make it sooner?
I don't care enough to even think about it but I'll laugh the day it finally happens.
Co-sign.
Co-co-sign.
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Quote from: InternetApex on April 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
I have May 8 as White Sox Fall Below .500 Day. Anyone care to bet they make it sooner?
I don't care enough to even think about it but I'll laugh the day it finally happens.
Co-sign.
Co-co-sign.
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I'd actually like to cast my vote for terrible second half collapse after they've traded the 2 prospects they actually have for a deadline acquisition that falls flat on his face (lookin' at you, Ryan Braun).
When Hawk isn't on, this team and associated broadcast is moderately enjoyable.
I actually don't find this particularly Sox team very loathsome. I like a lot of the guys they have. But it has been fun watching Mat Latos crater as his bullshit stopped working. At one point he had like a 1.40 ERA and a 5+ FIP, now it's 4.00 ERA and 5.04 FIP.
Quote from: SKO on May 19, 2016, 08:01:15 AM
I actually don't find this particularly Sox team very loathsome. I like a lot of the guys they have. But it has been fun watching Mat Latos crater as his bullshit stopped working. At one point he had like a 1.40 ERA and a 5+ FIP, now it's 4.00 ERA and 5.04 FIP.
That gives them two giant holes in their rotation to go along with the erratic Carlos Rodon. Sale and Quintana have to be just about perfect for this team not to fall back to the pack. I don't know that the pack is all that spectacular so they may still end up winning the Central.
I don't find them loathsome myself but I don't exactly wish them well either.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 19, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 19, 2016, 08:01:15 AM
I actually don't find this particularly Sox team very loathsome. I like a lot of the guys they have. But it has been fun watching Mat Latos crater as his bullshit stopped working. At one point he had like a 1.40 ERA and a 5+ FIP, now it's 4.00 ERA and 5.04 FIP.
That gives them two giant holes in their rotation to go along with the erratic Carlos Rodon. Sale and Quintana have to be just about perfect for this team not to fall back to the pack. I don't know that the pack is all that spectacular so they may still end up winning the Central.
I don't find them loathsome myself but I don't exactly wish them well either.
Yeah, unless Rodon can find some control (and that's no sure bet, a lot of scouts had him pegged as a reliever for that exact reason), they're going to have a hard time winning more than 83-85 games (fangraphs has them projected for 85 right now), but in the AL that's also probably good enough to win the AL WC and maybe still the AL Central. I don't know what exactly it is about Cleveland that all of the projections find so attractive, especially with Kluber struggling and Carrasco hurt.
Quote from: SKO on May 19, 2016, 09:45:25 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 19, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 19, 2016, 08:01:15 AM
I actually don't find this particularly Sox team very loathsome. I like a lot of the guys they have. But it has been fun watching Mat Latos crater as his bullshit stopped working. At one point he had like a 1.40 ERA and a 5+ FIP, now it's 4.00 ERA and 5.04 FIP.
That gives them two giant holes in their rotation to go along with the erratic Carlos Rodon. Sale and Quintana have to be just about perfect for this team not to fall back to the pack. I don't know that the pack is all that spectacular so they may still end up winning the Central.
I don't find them loathsome myself but I don't exactly wish them well either.
Yeah, unless Rodon can find some control (and that's no sure bet, a lot of scouts had him pegged as a reliever for that exact reason), they're going to have a hard time winning more than 83-85 games (fangraphs has them projected for 85 right now), but in the AL that's also probably good enough to win the AL WC and maybe still the AL Central. I don't know what exactly it is about Cleveland that all of the projections find so attractive, especially with Kluber struggling and Carrasco hurt.
Kansas City is going to win the Central. I don't know why I said that. AL Selig Card is wide ass open though.
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Quote from: SKO on May 19, 2016, 09:45:25 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 19, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 19, 2016, 08:01:15 AM
I actually don't find this particularly Sox team very loathsome. I like a lot of the guys they have. But it has been fun watching Mat Latos crater as his bullshit stopped working. At one point he had like a 1.40 ERA and a 5+ FIP, now it's 4.00 ERA and 5.04 FIP.
That gives them two giant holes in their rotation to go along with the erratic Carlos Rodon. Sale and Quintana have to be just about perfect for this team not to fall back to the pack. I don't know that the pack is all that spectacular so they may still end up winning the Central.
I don't find them loathsome myself but I don't exactly wish them well either.
Yeah, unless Rodon can find some control (and that's no sure bet, a lot of scouts had him pegged as a reliever for that exact reason), they're going to have a hard time winning more than 83-85 games (fangraphs has them projected for 85 right now), but in the AL that's also probably good enough to win the AL WC and maybe still the AL Central. I don't know what exactly it is about Cleveland that all of the projections find so attractive, especially with Kluber struggling and Carrasco hurt.
Kansas City is going to win the Central. I don't know why I said that. AL Selig Card is wide ass open though.
Yeah, the problem for the Sox is that their farm system still sucks, and with the AL so wide open there aren't going to be too many sellers, so when Latos and that fifth starter grab bag they have keep sucking they're not going to be able to find much of an improvement on the market. Hence the reason they were interested in Lincecum, who sucks. They definitely don't have the luxury of giving Rodon some more time in the minors if he should keep up his recent Ankiel impersonation. So if Quintana falls back to earth a little bit and Rodon is just going to be mediocre or worse, they could plummet big time.
Quote from: SKO on May 19, 2016, 09:50:40 AM
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Quote from: SKO on May 19, 2016, 08:01:15 AM
I actually don't find this particularly Sox team very loathsome. I like a lot of the guys they have. But it has been fun watching Mat Latos crater as his bullshit stopped working. At one point he had like a 1.40 ERA and a 5+ FIP, now it's 4.00 ERA and 5.04 FIP.
That gives them two giant holes in their rotation to go along with the erratic Carlos Rodon. Sale and Quintana have to be just about perfect for this team not to fall back to the pack. I don't know that the pack is all that spectacular so they may still end up winning the Central.
I don't find them loathsome myself but I don't exactly wish them well either.
Yeah, unless Rodon can find some control (and that's no sure bet, a lot of scouts had him pegged as a reliever for that exact reason), they're going to have a hard time winning more than 83-85 games (fangraphs has them projected for 85 right now), but in the AL that's also probably good enough to win the AL WC and maybe still the AL Central. I don't know what exactly it is about Cleveland that all of the projections find so attractive, especially with Kluber struggling and Carrasco hurt.
Kansas City is going to win the Central. I don't know why I said that. AL Selig Card is wide ass open though.
Yeah, the problem for the Sox is that their farm system still sucks, and with the AL so wide open there aren't going to be too many sellers, so when Latos and that fifth starter grab bag they have keep sucking they're not going to be able to find much of an improvement on the market. Hence the reason they were interested in Lincecum, who sucks. They definitely don't have the luxury of giving Rodon some more time in the minors if he should keep up his recent Ankiel impersonation. So if Quintana falls back to earth a little bit and Rodon is just going to be mediocre or worse, they could plummet big time.
It's going to be fun.
Go Tribe
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I did not engage because I didn't know any of these people but I saw a facebook conversation Huey got into wherein a Sox fan replied to a Cubs fan trolling them with "worry about your own slumping team, Sox are 10-12 in their last 22 (now 10-13) while Cubs are just 13-9 (now 14-9)". In what fucking world is being 2 games under .500 comparable to being 3 games over? 13-9 is a .591 winning percentage. If they did that all fucking year they'd win 95 games. Anyways, those of you that actually know and engage with these people on a daily basis, I get the tea sippin'. Keep on keepin on.
Quote from: SKO on May 26, 2016, 08:12:30 AM
I did not engage because I didn't know any of these people but I saw a facebook conversation Huey got into wherein a Sox fan replied to a Cubs fan trolling them with "worry about your own slumping team, Sox are 10-12 in their last 22 (now 10-13) while Cubs are just 13-9 (now 14-9)". In what fucking world is being 2 games under .500 comparable to being 3 games over? 13-9 is a .591 winning percentage. If they did that all fucking year they'd win 95 games. Anyways, those of you that actually know and engage with these people on a daily basis, I get the tea sippin'. Keep on keepin on.
Though I KNOW I shouldn't care about how the Sox are doing in any instances when the Cubs are doing well (on the other hand if the Cubs are bad then the Sox being bad is all I can hope for), I confess to being annoyed about 3 weeks ago when the Sox were atop of the American and I'll further confess that I've enjoyed their slide downward toward mediocrity since. Hope it continues and that they'll be rendered irrelevant altogether by August.
Quote from: PANK! on May 26, 2016, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 26, 2016, 08:12:30 AM
I did not engage because I didn't know any of these people but I saw a facebook conversation Huey got into wherein a Sox fan replied to a Cubs fan trolling them with "worry about your own slumping team, Sox are 10-12 in their last 22 (now 10-13) while Cubs are just 13-9 (now 14-9)". In what fucking world is being 2 games under .500 comparable to being 3 games over? 13-9 is a .591 winning percentage. If they did that all fucking year they'd win 95 games. Anyways, those of you that actually know and engage with these people on a daily basis, I get the tea sippin'. Keep on keepin on.
Though I KNOW I shouldn't care about how the Sox are doing in any instances when the Cubs are doing well (on the other hand if the Cubs are bad then the Sox being bad is all I can hope for), I confess to being annoyed about 3 weeks ago when the Sox were atop of the American and I'll further confess that I've enjoyed their slide downward toward mediocrity since. Hope it continues and that they'll be rendered irrelevant altogether by August.
The problem with that theory is I just don't know if they can slide far enough in that league. The current projected AL playoff picture per fangraphs:
Red Sox 93-69
Mariners 88-74
Indians 87-75
Orioles 85-77
WC:
White Sox 83-79
Rangers 83-79
Blue Jays/Yankees/Tigers 82-80
Rays/Royals 80-82
Given that swampy morass battling for the wildcard spots there I don't really see a compelling argument where any of them are clearly better than even the most mediocre version of this year's White Sox. Sale, Quintana, and about 50% of Good Rodon the rest of the way is probably enough. Although it would be pretty fun to see the Sox have to burn Sale in the wildcard game and have Mat Latos or Carlos Rodon's tightrope act starting game 2 of a division series against the Red Sox offense.
Hahahaha
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2016, 04:48:54 PM
Hahahaha
Was coming to post the same thing. Lmao Shite Sox.
Kermit's choking on that tea right now.
I know there's more than 4 months left in the season, but I think this officially starts at least their death spiral out of the division race. They've been doing everything they could the last few weeks to piss away the lead. Today though took the cake giving up fucking 7 in the 9th.
The SCORE runs a Sunday morning baseball show that begins at 9. In spite of the Cubs' 4-game winning streak and 33-14 record, the entire show has literally been a bitch fest about the White Sox so far. If I wasn't basking in so much schadenfreude I'd be annoyed that nobody's talking about the Cubs.
I don't give a flying fuck about the White Sox.
Quote from: Tonker on May 29, 2016, 11:01:48 AM
I don't give a flying fuck about the White Sox.
*searches around for a "Like" button*
Quote from: Tonker on May 29, 2016, 11:01:48 AM
I don't give a flying fuck about the White Sox.
Because it's the South Side of Chicago the correct exclamation would be, "I don't give a rat's ass".
But point well taken.
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
The SCORE runs a Sunday morning baseball show that begins at 9. In spite of the Cubs' 4-game winning streak and 33-14 record, the entire show has literally been a bitch fest about the White Sox so far. If I wasn't basking in so much schadenfreude I'd be annoyed that nobody's talking about the Cubs.
Bask in the fact that the Cubs being a 25-man asskicking machine is being treated as business as usual.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 29, 2016, 09:08:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
The SCORE runs a Sunday morning baseball show that begins at 9. In spite of the Cubs' 4-game winning streak and 33-14 record, the entire show has literally been a bitch fest about the White Sox so far. If I wasn't basking in so much schadenfreude I'd be annoyed that nobody's talking about the Cubs.
Bask in the fact that the Cubs being a 25-man asskicking machine is being treated as business as usual.
Oh I do. Look--when I roll out of bed and fire up some kick-ass banana pancakes for my kids as I'm frequently wont to do on the weekends, I like to flip on the radio while I get to work. Figured I'd have plenty of basking to look forward to this morning. I just felt it was worth noting that it was 90 straight minutes of the shipwreck of a game that was the Sox game Saturday and I'm just admitting that I found it enjoyable despite being frustrated that they weren't discussing the Cubs...on the Cubs' flagship station no less. I'm happy for those of you who feel compelled to enter a thread that is expressly designed to shit on the White Sox so as to declare your antipathy--and bully for you I say- and I'm sure I'd feel the same antipathy if I hadn't grow up with so many of these shitheads around me, but I did, and if you did, and you heard some of the callers that called in to this show today, I'm telling you you'd have enjoyd it too.
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2016, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 29, 2016, 09:08:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
The SCORE runs a Sunday morning baseball show that begins at 9. In spite of the Cubs' 4-game winning streak and 33-14 record, the entire show has literally been a bitch fest about the White Sox so far. If I wasn't basking in so much schadenfreude I'd be annoyed that nobody's talking about the Cubs.
Bask in the fact that the Cubs being a 25-man asskicking machine is being treated as business as usual.
Oh I do. Look--when I roll out of bed and fire up some kick-ass banana pancakes for my kids as I'm frequently wont to do on the weekends, I like to flip on the radio while I get to work. Figured I'd have plenty of basking to look forward to this morning. I just felt it was worth noting that it was 90 straight minutes of the shipwreck of a game that was the Sox game Saturday and I'm just admitting that I found it enjoyable despite being frustrated that they weren't discussing the Cubs...on the Cubs' flagship station no less. I'm happy for those of you who feel compelled to enter a thread that is expressly designed to shit on the White Sox so as to declare your antipathy--and bully for you I say- and I'm sure I'd feel the same antipathy if I hadn't grow up with so many of these shitheads around me, but I did, and if you did, and you heard some of the callers that called in to this show today, I'm telling you you'd have enjoyd it too.
I enjoyd watching the 9th inning meltdown, complete with Hawk suggesting there should be someone backing up the catcher on intentional walks. Shit, I'd buy it on Blu-Ray.
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2016, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 29, 2016, 09:08:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
The SCORE runs a Sunday morning baseball show that begins at 9. In spite of the Cubs' 4-game winning streak and 33-14 record, the entire show has literally been a bitch fest about the White Sox so far. If I wasn't basking in so much schadenfreude I'd be annoyed that nobody's talking about the Cubs.
Bask in the fact that the Cubs being a 25-man asskicking machine is being treated as business as usual.
Oh I do. Look--when I roll out of bed and fire up some kick-ass banana pancakes for my kids as I'm frequently wont to do on the weekends, I like to flip on the radio while I get to work. Figured I'd have plenty of basking to look forward to this morning. I just felt it was worth noting that it was 90 straight minutes of the shipwreck of a game that was the Sox game Saturday and I'm just admitting that I found it enjoyable despite being frustrated that they weren't discussing the Cubs...on the Cubs' flagship station no less. I'm happy for those of you who feel compelled to enter a thread that is expressly designed to shit on the White Sox so as to declare your antipathy--and bully for you I say- and I'm sure I'd feel the same antipathy if I hadn't grow up with so many of these shitheads around me, but I did, and if you did, and you heard some of the callers that called in to this show today, I'm telling you you'd have enjoyd it too.
Last night I listened as one guy's entire response to the weekend was "well the Cubs are only good because of a soft schedule and the White Sox would easily win the NL" and I feel hating these people is justified.
Also one guy suggested firing the bullpen coach and calling up a minor league coach to replace him, because clearly the problem is the guy who answers a phone and charts pitches
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2016, 02:21:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 29, 2016, 11:01:48 AM
I don't give a flying fuck about the White Sox.
*searches around for a "Like" button*
Also, aren't the Royals your *other* team?
Quote from: PANK! on May 30, 2016, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2016, 02:21:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 29, 2016, 11:01:48 AM
I don't give a flying fuck about the White Sox.
*searches around for a "Like" button*
Also, aren't the Royals your *other* team?
I mean,
kind of. I don't really pay much attention during the regular season. I'm happy when they do well because I like Kansas City and I like a lot of Royals fans. But aside from going to a few games a year at the K, I don't watch them very often until the playoffs.
Thought this post from r/baseball (https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/4lmdag/the_white_sox_have_lost_3_straight_games_in_which/) was pretty interesting.
QuoteThe White Sox have lost 3 straight games in which they've had win probabilities of 93.8%, 99.9%, and 88.4%
Friday (http://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2016-05-27&team=Royals&dh=0&season=2016)
Saturday (http://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2016-05-28&team=Royals&dh=0&season=2016)
Sunday (http://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2016-05-29&team=Royals&dh=0&season=2016)
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For the record the only fanbase I hate enough to actively troll is the Cardinals. I will seek out and shit upon every one of those mother fuckers this year.
I follow some cool White Sox fans on twitter and don't know many Sox fans in real life so I mostly just enjoy their struggles in the abstract. I have the same approach to the Mets, the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Pirates, and the Reds.
Quote from: SKO on May 30, 2016, 08:41:13 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2016, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 29, 2016, 09:08:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
The SCORE runs a Sunday morning baseball show that begins at 9. In spite of the Cubs' 4-game winning streak and 33-14 record, the entire show has literally been a bitch fest about the White Sox so far. If I wasn't basking in so much schadenfreude I'd be annoyed that nobody's talking about the Cubs.
Bask in the fact that the Cubs being a 25-man asskicking machine is being treated as business as usual.
Oh I do. Look--when I roll out of bed and fire up some kick-ass banana pancakes for my kids as I'm frequently wont to do on the weekends, I like to flip on the radio while I get to work. Figured I'd have plenty of basking to look forward to this morning. I just felt it was worth noting that it was 90 straight minutes of the shipwreck of a game that was the Sox game Saturday and I'm just admitting that I found it enjoyable despite being frustrated that they weren't discussing the Cubs...on the Cubs' flagship station no less. I'm happy for those of you who feel compelled to enter a thread that is expressly designed to shit on the White Sox so as to declare your antipathy--and bully for you I say- and I'm sure I'd feel the same antipathy if I hadn't grow up with so many of these shitheads around me, but I did, and if you did, and you heard some of the callers that called in to this show today, I'm telling you you'd have enjoyd it too.
Last night I listened as one guy's entire response to the weekend was "well the Cubs are only good because of a soft schedule and the White Sox would easily win the NL" and I feel hating these people is justified.
Also one guy suggested firing the bullpen coach and calling up a minor league coach to replace him, because clearly the problem is the guy who answers a phone and charts pitches
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In fairness, the Sox bullpen didn't collapse at Citi Field today.
Quote from: SKO on May 30, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
For the record the only fanbase I hate enough to actively troll is the Cardinals.
This also jives well with semi-rooting for the Royals -- their fanbase's No. 1 target of hatred is also the Cardinals.
Quote from: Eli on May 30, 2016, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 30, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
For the record the only fanbase I hate enough to actively troll is the Cardinals.
This also jives jibes well with semi-rooting for the Royals -- their fanbase's No. 1 target of hatred is also the Cardinals.
I don't normally like to play pedant, but nothing in Missouri has any jive to it.
Quote from: Bort on May 31, 2016, 12:30:26 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 30, 2016, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 30, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
For the record the only fanbase I hate enough to actively troll is the Cardinals.
This also jives jibes well with semi-rooting for the Royals -- their fanbase's No. 1 target of hatred is also the Cardinals.
I don't normally like to play pedant, but nothing in Missouri has any jive to it.
You don't speak jive?
Just wanted to add that it wasn't until about noon yesterday when I saw that the bullpen also blew Sunday's game as well and holy shit that's hilarious now I'm going to need me a minute to catch up and absorb their seemingly resurrecting Matt Harvey's career yesterday thanks
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
I don't care anywhere near enough about it to stream it, but since driving my son around in the car is about the only way to get him to take a nap when we aren't at home, I did enjoy getting to listen to White Sox fan meltdowns whilst circling the block repeatedly until he fell asleep.
Quote from: Bort on May 31, 2016, 12:30:26 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 30, 2016, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 30, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
For the record the only fanbase I hate enough to actively troll is the Cardinals.
This also jives jibes well with semi-rooting for the Royals -- their fanbase's No. 1 target of hatred is also the Cardinals.
I don't normally like to play pedant, but nothing in Missouri has any jive to it.
That was definitely a Huey fat-finger typing error, but I'm going to just go ahead and pretend I was trying to speak jive.
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Quote from: Bort on May 31, 2016, 12:30:26 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 30, 2016, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 30, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
For the record the only fanbase I hate enough to actively troll is the Cardinals.
This also jives jibes well with semi-rooting for the Royals -- their fanbase's No. 1 target of hatred is also the Cardinals.
I don't normally like to play pedant, but nothing in Missouri has any jive to it.
That was definitely a Huey fat-finger typing error, but I'm going to just go ahead and pretend I was trying to speak jive.
(https://reggiestake.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/airplane-movie-03.jpg)
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2016, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Quote from: Bort on May 31, 2016, 12:30:26 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 30, 2016, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 30, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
For the record the only fanbase I hate enough to actively troll is the Cardinals.
This also jives jibes well with semi-rooting for the Royals -- their fanbase's No. 1 target of hatred is also the Cardinals.
I don't normally like to play pedant, but nothing in Missouri has any jive to it.
That was definitely a Huey fat-finger typing error, but I'm going to just go ahead and pretend I was trying to speak jive.
(https://reggiestake.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/airplane-movie-03.jpg)
Chump don wan no hep, chump won get no hep!
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 09:12:28 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2016, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Quote from: Bort on May 31, 2016, 12:30:26 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 30, 2016, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 30, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
For the record the only fanbase I hate enough to actively troll is the Cardinals.
This also jives jibes well with semi-rooting for the Royals -- their fanbase's No. 1 target of hatred is also the Cardinals.
I don't normally like to play pedant, but nothing in Missouri has any jive to it.
That was definitely a Huey fat-finger typing error, but I'm going to just go ahead and pretend I was trying to speak jive.
(https://reggiestake.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/airplane-movie-03.jpg)
Chump don wan no hep, chump won get no hep!
Jimmy no want none, Jimmy no get none.
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
I don't care anywhere near enough about it to stream it, but since driving my son around in the car is about the only way to get him to take a nap when we aren't at home, I did enjoy getting to listen to White Sox fan meltdowns whilst circling the block repeatedly until he fell asleep.
Forgive me for forgetting: how old is your son now? Mine turns two in just under a month.
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:34:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
I don't care anywhere near enough about it to stream it, but since driving my son around in the car is about the only way to get him to take a nap when we aren't at home, I did enjoy getting to listen to White Sox fan meltdowns whilst circling the block repeatedly until he fell asleep.
Forgive me for forgetting: how old is your son now? Mine turns two in just under a month.
He turned one on the 8th. He's pretty good about napping at home in his own bed but any time we go somewhere else for the weekend he pretty much refuses to sleep unless held by one of us or I drive him around in the car. So I spent about two hours Saturday and Sunday driving around the block listening to Sox Rage. I enjoyed it.
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:34:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
I don't care anywhere near enough about it to stream it, but since driving my son around in the car is about the only way to get him to take a nap when we aren't at home, I did enjoy getting to listen to White Sox fan meltdowns whilst circling the block repeatedly until he fell asleep.
Forgive me for forgetting: how old is your son now? Mine turns two in just under a month.
He turned one on the 8th. He's pretty good about napping at home in his own bed but any time we go somewhere else for the weekend he pretty much refuses to sleep unless held by one of us or I drive him around in the car. So I spent about two hours Saturday and Sunday driving around the block listening to Sox Rage. I enjoyed it.
Nice. When ours was a newborn, he'd only nap if we were driving him around. We had a detachable carseat that could also be used as a stroller; we had to keep him in there in order for him to sleep.
What are his night times like? I'm pretty sure that when Krut Jr. was around a year old, he was in a phase where he was waking up at 4am most mornings.
White Sox suck.
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:34:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
I don't care anywhere near enough about it to stream it, but since driving my son around in the car is about the only way to get him to take a nap when we aren't at home, I did enjoy getting to listen to White Sox fan meltdowns whilst circling the block repeatedly until he fell asleep.
Forgive me for forgetting: how old is your son now? Mine turns two in just under a month.
He turned one on the 8th. He's pretty good about napping at home in his own bed but any time we go somewhere else for the weekend he pretty much refuses to sleep unless held by one of us or I drive him around in the car. So I spent about two hours Saturday and Sunday driving around the block listening to Sox Rage. I enjoyed it.
Nice. When ours was a newborn, he'd only nap if we were driving him around. We had a detachable carseat that could also be used as a stroller; we had to keep him in there in order for him to sleep.
What are his night times like? I'm pretty sure that when Krut Jr. was around a year old, he was in a phase where he was waking up at 4am most mornings.
White Sox suck.
He sleeps very well at night. Usually goes to bed at 8:30, wakes up around 6:00 AM, about half of the time he wakes up briefly to eat for 10 minutes around 2 AM. I can't really complain about his sleep schedule at all, he just doesn't like napping in a place he is not real familiar with, apparently.
Truly the White Sox do suck.
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 09:43:30 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:34:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
I don't care anywhere near enough about it to stream it, but since driving my son around in the car is about the only way to get him to take a nap when we aren't at home, I did enjoy getting to listen to White Sox fan meltdowns whilst circling the block repeatedly until he fell asleep.
Forgive me for forgetting: how old is your son now? Mine turns two in just under a month.
He turned one on the 8th. He's pretty good about napping at home in his own bed but any time we go somewhere else for the weekend he pretty much refuses to sleep unless held by one of us or I drive him around in the car. So I spent about two hours Saturday and Sunday driving around the block listening to Sox Rage. I enjoyed it.
Nice. When ours was a newborn, he'd only nap if we were driving him around. We had a detachable carseat that could also be used as a stroller; we had to keep him in there in order for him to sleep.
What are his night times like? I'm pretty sure that when Krut Jr. was around a year old, he was in a phase where he was waking up at 4am most mornings.
White Sox suck.
He sleeps very well at night. Usually goes to bed at 8:30, wakes up around 6:00 AM, about half of the time he wakes up briefly to eat for 10 minutes around 2 AM. I can't really complain about his sleep schedule at all, he just doesn't like napping in a place he is not real familiar with, apparently.
Truly the White Sox do suck.
Quit soiling this thread with your humanity. Fuckers.
Quote from: Oleg on May 31, 2016, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 09:43:30 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:34:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
I don't care anywhere near enough about it to stream it, but since driving my son around in the car is about the only way to get him to take a nap when we aren't at home, I did enjoy getting to listen to White Sox fan meltdowns whilst circling the block repeatedly until he fell asleep.
Forgive me for forgetting: how old is your son now? Mine turns two in just under a month.
He turned one on the 8th. He's pretty good about napping at home in his own bed but any time we go somewhere else for the weekend he pretty much refuses to sleep unless held by one of us or I drive him around in the car. So I spent about two hours Saturday and Sunday driving around the block listening to Sox Rage. I enjoyed it.
Nice. When ours was a newborn, he'd only nap if we were driving him around. We had a detachable carseat that could also be used as a stroller; we had to keep him in there in order for him to sleep.
What are his night times like? I'm pretty sure that when Krut Jr. was around a year old, he was in a phase where he was waking up at 4am most mornings.
White Sox suck.
He sleeps very well at night. Usually goes to bed at 8:30, wakes up around 6:00 AM, about half of the time he wakes up briefly to eat for 10 minutes around 2 AM. I can't really complain about his sleep schedule at all, he just doesn't like napping in a place he is not real familiar with, apparently.
Truly the White Sox do suck.
Quit soiling this thread with your humanity. Fuckers.
Agreed. Fuck off to Mumsnet with that shit. Send Wheezer our love when you get there.
Quote from: Oleg on May 31, 2016, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 09:43:30 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 09:34:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
This collapse is something they will sing madrigals about years from now.
I'm anxiously awaiting the start of Guillen Era 2.0
I thoroughly enjoyed being back in range of The Score for a weekend while were visiting my folks in Illinois and the sheer number of calls asking for Ozzie's return may have been my favorite of all of the incredibly meatball things I heard from Sox fans (other contenders: Ventura should bat Abreu 9th to send him a message, Duke should have been given an outright release over the weekend, the aforementioned "fire the bullpen coach" guy and also "the Cubs just feast on a weak schedule" guy)
Finally got internet access at home?
I don't care anywhere near enough about it to stream it, but since driving my son around in the car is about the only way to get him to take a nap when we aren't at home, I did enjoy getting to listen to White Sox fan meltdowns whilst circling the block repeatedly until he fell asleep.
Forgive me for forgetting: how old is your son now? Mine turns two in just under a month.
He turned one on the 8th. He's pretty good about napping at home in his own bed but any time we go somewhere else for the weekend he pretty much refuses to sleep unless held by one of us or I drive him around in the car. So I spent about two hours Saturday and Sunday driving around the block listening to Sox Rage. I enjoyed it.
Nice. When ours was a newborn, he'd only nap if we were driving him around. We had a detachable carseat that could also be used as a stroller; we had to keep him in there in order for him to sleep.
What are his night times like? I'm pretty sure that when Krut Jr. was around a year old, he was in a phase where he was waking up at 4am most mornings.
White Sox suck.
He sleeps very well at night. Usually goes to bed at 8:30, wakes up around 6:00 AM, about half of the time he wakes up briefly to eat for 10 minutes around 2 AM. I can't really complain about his sleep schedule at all, he just doesn't like napping in a place he is not real familiar with, apparently.
Truly the White Sox do suck.
Quit soiling this thread with your humanity. Fuckers.
Hey, man. We stayed on topic.
Fuck the Sox.
Before I moved to Chicago I used to care very little about the Sox except during their series with the Cubs. Even from afar those felt intense and I really wanted the Cubs to thrash them. Especially in the years when the Cubs were good, like 2003, I felt deeply about those games. It was just fun though. Then I moved up here and met actual White Sox fans. Some of them were just regular people who liked an American League team but so many more were truly committed to the stereotype that Cubs fans don't care about or understand baseball. Then they'd open their meatball cockholsters and betray such wrongheaded, asinine baseball thoughts that I learned to loathe them.
I've pretended to be neutral on the Sox just to avoid the conversation about which side is better, mostly because the Cubs have been so awful that it was pointless and made me look bad. I see a bunch of my Cub fan friends say they don't worry about the Sox when the Cubs are good. I do. Fucking A right I do. They need to be humiliated to the point that their words against us sound as sweet as birds chirping on the first day of Spring.
They have a fucking title this century or so and we don't. How can that be ok no matter what the Cubs are doing.
Eradicate the brutes.
The best final kick in the dick tip of the Rhode Island-sized Sox Nation will be not only the Cubs taking away their bragging rights to the most recent World Championship, but that it won't be a one-and-done.
We are in the Golden Age here, boys. Let's be insufferable.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 31, 2016, 03:32:34 PM
Before I moved to Chicago I used to care very little about the Sox except during their series with the Cubs. Even from afar those felt intense and I really wanted the Cubs to thrash them. Especially in the years when the Cubs were good, like 2003, I felt deeply about those games. It was just fun though. Then I moved up here and met actual White Sox fans. Some of them were just regular people who liked an American League team but so many more were truly committed to the stereotype that Cubs fans don't care about or understand baseball. Then they'd open their meatball cockholsters and betray such wrongheaded, asinine baseball thoughts that I learned to loathe them.
I've pretended to be neutral on the Sox just to avoid the conversation about which side is better, mostly because the Cubs have been so awful that it was pointless and made me look bad. I see a bunch of my Cub fan friends say they don't worry about the Sox when the Cubs are good. I do. Fucking A right I do. They need to be humiliated to the point that their words against us sound as sweet as birds chirping on the first day of Spring.
They have a fucking title this century or so and we don't. How can that be ok no matter what the Cubs are doing.
Eradicate the brutes.
The only Sox fan I know pretty well in real life is my wife's cousin's husband. He's a good guy in general, usually fairly smart, we got along well as Bears fans because he was always in the "everyone wants to blame Cutler camp but look at his supporting cast" camp, which was a quick way to my heart.
But then when Latos was 4-0 or whatever he went on facebook saying "enough about fucking Arrieta, how about Mat Latos?" and I wanted his bloodline exterminated.
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 31, 2016, 03:32:34 PM
Before I moved to Chicago I used to care very little about the Sox except during their series with the Cubs. Even from afar those felt intense and I really wanted the Cubs to thrash them. Especially in the years when the Cubs were good, like 2003, I felt deeply about those games. It was just fun though. Then I moved up here and met actual White Sox fans. Some of them were just regular people who liked an American League team but so many more were truly committed to the stereotype that Cubs fans don't care about or understand baseball. Then they'd open their meatball cockholsters and betray such wrongheaded, asinine baseball thoughts that I learned to loathe them.
I've pretended to be neutral on the Sox just to avoid the conversation about which side is better, mostly because the Cubs have been so awful that it was pointless and made me look bad. I see a bunch of my Cub fan friends say they don't worry about the Sox when the Cubs are good. I do. Fucking A right I do. They need to be humiliated to the point that their words against us sound as sweet as birds chirping on the first day of Spring.
They have a fucking title this century or so and we don't. How can that be ok no matter what the Cubs are doing.
Eradicate the brutes.
The only Sox fan I know pretty well in real life is my wife's cousin's husband. He's a good guy in general, usually fairly smart, we got along well as Bears fans because he was always in the "everyone wants to blame Cutler camp but look at his supporting cast" camp, which was a quick way to my heart.
But then when Latos was 4-0 or whatever he went on facebook saying "enough about fucking Arrieta, how about Mat Latos?" and I wanted his bloodline exterminated.
This is not a fucking game. They're going to get theirs.
It's all going to be better when they get James Shields and his giant salary.
Also, SKO, I heard the "Cubs get to play the Phillies, we're playing the Royals. They played in two World Series in a row!" bit. My six year old thought the guy was hilarious and he forgave me for almost driving off the road and into a tree when said meathead claimed Adam Eaton is the best outfielder in Chicago.
A co-worker's husband grew up in the South Side of Chicago and comes from a family of White Sox fans. He doesn't mind the Sox, but he's a Cubs fan. Before his uncle died, my friend was designated executor of the estate, and was given a direct order: engrave on the tombstone "A Cubs Fan and a Bud Man." Supposedly, when this act was discovered by my friend's Grandmother, she lost her mind and began clawing at the engraving until her fingers bled.
People are weird about baseball.
Quote from: Canadouche on May 31, 2016, 06:02:58 PM
A co-worker's husband grew up in the South Side of Chicago and comes from a family of White Sox fans. He doesn't mind the Sox, but he's a Cubs fan. Before his uncle died, my friend was designated executor of the estate, and was given a direct order: engrave on the tombstone "A Cubs Fan and a Bud Man." Supposedly, when this act was discovered by my friend's Grandmother, she lost her mind and began clawing at the engraving until her fingers bled.
People are weird about baseball.
I think that she was the rational one in that relationship.
I'm not sure what's more sad, that I'm convinced Shields is pretty much done and won't make much of a difference at all, or that he's still an upgrade over Latos and with their farm system he was probably the best move they could make.
Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 07:27:47 AM
I'm not sure what's more sad, that I'm convinced Shields is pretty much done and won't make much of a difference at all, or that he's still an upgrade over Latos and with their farm system he was probably the best move they could make.
Remember when the Cubs "lost out" on Shields?
good times.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 06, 2016, 08:07:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 07:27:47 AM
I'm not sure what's more sad, that I'm convinced Shields is pretty much done and won't make much of a difference at all, or that he's still an upgrade over Latos and with their farm system he was probably the best move they could make.
Remember when the Cubs "lost out" on Shields?
good times.
Yeah, for all of the legitimately genius moves Theo has made, sometimes the ones he swung and missed at worked out for the better, too. Shields would probably have been slightly better with the Cubs defense behind him but still, it was good that he didn't accept their offer. It sucked at the time to lose out on Anibal Sanchez and throw that money at Edwin Jackson, but in the long run both contracts have turned into disasters and Sanchez would have just been a disaster for two more years and an extra 28 million.
Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 08:16:59 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 06, 2016, 08:07:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 07:27:47 AM
I'm not sure what's more sad, that I'm convinced Shields is pretty much done and won't make much of a difference at all, or that he's still an upgrade over Latos and with their farm system he was probably the best move they could make.
Remember when the Cubs "lost out" on Shields?
good times.
Yeah, for all of the legitimately genius moves Theo has made, sometimes the ones he swung and missed at worked out for the better, too. Shields would probably have been slightly better with the Cubs defense behind him but still, it was good that he didn't accept their offer. It sucked at the time to lose out on Anibal Sanchez and throw that money at Edwin Jackson, but in the long run both contracts have turned into disasters and Sanchez would have just been a disaster for two more years and an extra 28 million.
While possibly jeopardizing the presence of Kris Bryant perhaps.
Quote from: PANK! on June 06, 2016, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 08:16:59 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 06, 2016, 08:07:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 07:27:47 AM
I'm not sure what's more sad, that I'm convinced Shields is pretty much done and won't make much of a difference at all, or that he's still an upgrade over Latos and with their farm system he was probably the best move they could make.
Remember when the Cubs "lost out" on Shields?
good times.
Yeah, for all of the legitimately genius moves Theo has made, sometimes the ones he swung and missed at worked out for the better, too. Shields would probably have been slightly better with the Cubs defense behind him but still, it was good that he didn't accept their offer. It sucked at the time to lose out on Anibal Sanchez and throw that money at Edwin Jackson, but in the long run both contracts have turned into disasters and Sanchez would have just been a disaster for two more years and an extra 28 million.
While possibly jeopardizing the presence of Kris Bryant perhaps.
Neither would have impacted that, he was drafted in 2013, so based off their 2012 record. The Sanchez/Jackson signings happened in the 2012 offseason, so it would have been Schwarber they were potentially jeopardizing.
Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 06, 2016, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 08:16:59 AM
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Quote from: SKO on June 06, 2016, 07:27:47 AM
I'm not sure what's more sad, that I'm convinced Shields is pretty much done and won't make much of a difference at all, or that he's still an upgrade over Latos and with their farm system he was probably the best move they could make.
Remember when the Cubs "lost out" on Shields?
good times.
Yeah, for all of the legitimately genius moves Theo has made, sometimes the ones he swung and missed at worked out for the better, too. Shields would probably have been slightly better with the Cubs defense behind him but still, it was good that he didn't accept their offer. It sucked at the time to lose out on Anibal Sanchez and throw that money at Edwin Jackson, but in the long run both contracts have turned into disasters and Sanchez would have just been a disaster for two more years and an extra 28 million.
While possibly jeopardizing the presence of Kris Bryant perhaps.
Neither would have impacted that, he was drafted in 2013, so based off their 2012 record. The Sanchez/Jackson signings happened in the 2012 offseason, so it would have been Schwarber they were potentially jeopardizing.
But probably not because Schwarber was picked by the Cubs higher than he was otherwise expected to be picked, correct?
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I'm not sure what's more sad, that I'm convinced Shields is pretty much done and won't make much of a difference at all, or that he's still an upgrade over Latos and with their farm system he was probably the best move they could make.
Remember when the Cubs "lost out" on Shields?
good times.
Yeah, for all of the legitimately genius moves Theo has made, sometimes the ones he swung and missed at worked out for the better, too. Shields would probably have been slightly better with the Cubs defense behind him but still, it was good that he didn't accept their offer. It sucked at the time to lose out on Anibal Sanchez and throw that money at Edwin Jackson, but in the long run both contracts have turned into disasters and Sanchez would have just been a disaster for two more years and an extra 28 million.
While possibly jeopardizing the presence of Kris Bryant perhaps.
Neither would have impacted that, he was drafted in 2013, so based off their 2012 record. The Sanchez/Jackson signings happened in the 2012 offseason, so it would have been Schwarber they were potentially jeopardizing.
But probably not because Schwarber was picked by the Cubs higher than he was otherwise expected to be picked, correct?
Probably not. This is the worst alternate reality ever. Although CT looks pretty good with his Evil Mirror Universe Goatee.
Quote from: InternetApex on April 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
I have May 8 as White Sox Fall Below .500 Day. Anyone care to bet they make it sooner?
Off by a month
James Shields was complete garbage.
Matt Latos DFAed.
They've gone 6-20 over the last month.
I did not think I would enjoy this nearly as much as I have.
In all fairness fuck the White Sox and anyone who doesn't wish them a lifelong baseball hellscape.
They also signed Justin Morneau and then put him on the DL, hoping he can come back from years of his brain being turned into mush and hit well after they've dropped completely out of contention. This is their equivalent to the Phil Nevin trade.
Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 03:19:16 PM
They also signed Justin Morneau and then put him on the DL, hoping he can come back from years of his brain being turned into mush and hit well after they've dropped completely out of contention. This is their equivalent to the Phil Nevin trade.
Phil Nevin pays strippers to peg him from behind with a strap-on.
True story.
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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 03:19:16 PM
They also signed Justin Morneau and then put him on the DL, hoping he can come back from years of his brain being turned into mush and hit well after they've dropped completely out of contention. This is their equivalent to the Phil Nevin trade.
Phil Nevin pays strippers to peg him from behind with a strap-on.
True story.
I mean, as opposed to pegging him from some other direction?
Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 03:19:16 PM
They also signed Justin Morneau and then put him on the DL, hoping he can come back from years of his brain being turned into mush and hit well after they've dropped completely out of contention. This is their equivalent to the Phil Nevin trade.
Perhaps it's their equivalent of a Joe Nathan signing?
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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 03:19:16 PM
They also signed Justin Morneau and then put him on the DL, hoping he can come back from years of his brain being turned into mush and hit well after they've dropped completely out of contention. This is their equivalent to the Phil Nevin trade.
Phil Nevin pays strippers to peg him from behind with a strap-on.
True story.
I mean, as opposed to pegging him from some other direction?
Not sure, maybe as the expert you can shed some light here.
Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 03:19:16 PM
They also signed Justin Morneau and then put him on the DL, hoping he can come back from years of his brain being turned into mush and hit well after they've dropped completely out of contention. This is their equivalent to the Phil Nevin trade.
People point to his decent numbers in very limited action last year but conveniently leave out his splits where he was great at Coors and horrendous away from it.
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team
Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM
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They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
Probably not much given their lack of prospects to deal, but possibly a guy like Braun since his contract seems to be scaring away most suitors. Either way Jerry shouldn't exactly get a pass for not spending money when Dexter Fowler and actual starting pitchers who aren't Mat Latos were available for modest prices the entire offseason.
Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team
If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.
They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.
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They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team
If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.
They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.
So much this, so much so that I'm copying this and will drop it on some of my idiot Sox friends, thanks!
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They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team
If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.
They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.
So much this, so much so that I'm copying this and will drop it on some of my idiot Sox friends, thanks!
To be fair I am mostly quoting the few smart, sensible Sox fans I do follow on twitter and their litany of gripes for why they hate Reinsdorf beyond the usual Chicago "just blame the owners" approach. There were very specific upgrades they could have made without breaking the bank, Jerry had clearly hit the maximum payroll he was willing to tolerate and wouldn't allow them to go past it. They spoonfed Bruce Levine a bunch of shit about how they were TOTES interested in Heyward/Gordon/Cespedes/Upton but they weren't looking to sign any deals longer than three years, which blew up in their face big time when Fowler and Cespedes both signed for 1 year deals elsewhere and it was painfully obvious they just weren't willing to pay anyone more than basically league minimum.
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They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team
If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.
They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.
And there's another baseball team in the same market that is pretty good. It's hard to draw casual fans when the Cubs are everywhere all the time.
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They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team
If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.
They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.
And there's another baseball team in the same market that is pretty good. It's hard to draw casual fans when the Cubs are everywhere all the time.
Right, you don't get to cry small market because you've intentionally made yourself the little sibling by not even trying to outbid the Cubs for Fowler, a guy you desperately needed that they basically signed as an afterthought. Your fans are right to tell you to fuck off.
Reinsdorf doesn't know whether he's in or out. He could have decided to move Abreu for some decent return in the offseason and have Hahn/Williams shop any player under 27, before waiting to hold someone up for Sale at the deadline. Instead he and Kenny convinced themselves that they could compete in that division and do it on the cheap. I hope Reinsdorf lives to 100 and takes every year like it might be his last one on earth while keeping Kenny Williams employed to spend money idiotically.
The Montreal Chaussettes Blanches will have a nice ring to it, circa 2031.
Quote from: Brownie on June 10, 2016, 04:04:24 PM
Reinsdorf doesn't know whether he's in or out. He could have decided to move Abreu for some decent return in the offseason and have Hahn/Williams shop any player under 27, before waiting to hold someone up for Sale at the deadline. Instead he and Kenny convinced themselves that they could compete in that division and do it on the cheap. I hope Reinsdorf lives to 100 and takes every year like it might be his last one on earth while keeping Kenny Williams employed to spend money idiotically.
The Montreal Chaussettes Blanches will have a nice ring to it, circa 2031.
He dies, they move. I mean is there really any other outcome?
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They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team
If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.
They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.
And there's another baseball team in the same market that is pretty good. It's hard to draw casual fans when the Cubs are everywhere all the time.
Right, you don't get to cry small market because you've intentionally made yourself the little sibling by not even trying to outbid the Cubs for Fowler, a guy you desperately needed that they basically signed as an afterthought. Your fans are right to tell you to fuck off.
Seriously, have the Sox been any real competition for the summer sports entertainment dollar at any time in the last 50 years other than when Bill Veeck owned the team?
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They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.
So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?
A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team
If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.
They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.
And there's another baseball team in the same market that is pretty good. It's hard to draw casual fans when the Cubs are everywhere all the time.
Right, you don't get to cry small market because you've intentionally made yourself the little sibling by not even trying to outbid the Cubs for Fowler, a guy you desperately needed that they basically signed as an afterthought. Your fans are right to tell you to fuck off.
Seriously, have the Sox been any real competition for the summer sports entertainment dollar at any time in the last 50 years other than when Bill Veeck owned the team?
I seem to remember a lot of empty seats in the Cell late in the 2005 season just before they cancelled the postseason.
lol
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 12, 2016, 07:36:29 PM
lol
Never change, White Sox: (https://theathletic.com/2016/07/13/kris-bryant-chris-sale-all-star-game/)
QuoteThe Bryant homer marred an otherwise good outing by Sale, though the White Sox apparently missed that key third pitch.
(The White Sox tweeted Sale's stat line minus the home run, but that tweet has since been deleted.)
Hearing Rick Hahn say it's hard for the White Sox to sell given that they added James Shields already makes me very glad that I never had to watch Jim Hendry handle a trade deadline while his team had a 3.2% chance of locking down the second wildcard spot.
Quote from: SKO on July 21, 2016, 09:41:58 AM
Hearing Rick Hahn say it's hard for the White Sox to sell given that they added James Shields already makes me very glad that I never had to watch Jim Hendry handle a trade deadline while his team had a 3.2% chance of locking down the second wildcard spot.
Their front office is such a dumpster fire. Hard to tell how much Hahn is limited by Kenny/Jerry, but remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Yikes.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 21, 2016, 09:51:34 AM
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Hearing Rick Hahn say it's hard for the White Sox to sell given that they added James Shields already makes me very glad that I never had to watch Jim Hendry handle a trade deadline while his team had a 3.2% chance of locking down the second wildcard spot.
Their front office is such a dumpster fire. Hard to tell how much Hahn is limited by Kenny/Jerry, but remember when he was a candidate for the Cubs job? Yikes.
was he ever really a candidate for the Cubs job or was he just a name the Sun Times habitually threw out as a guy they thought the Cubs should interview because of their default position that the Sox were the better run team right up until the middle of last year.
Also just because it's fucking hilarious now someone on twitter reminded me of this beauty from a couple of years ago, when David Haugh declared Jose Abreu the best first baseman in Chicago after 29 games. Rizzo (14.8 fWAR) has been worth almost 7 more wins than Abreu (8) since Abreu came to America.
"White Sox Ahead of Cubs in Rebuilding Race"
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-05/sports/ct-haugh-city-series-spt-0506-20140506_1_jose-abreu-chris-sale-white-sox
Quote from: SKO on July 21, 2016, 10:04:20 AM
Also just because it's fucking hilarious now someone on twitter reminded me of this beauty from a couple of years ago, when David Haugh declared Jose Abreu the best first baseman in Chicago after 29 games. Rizzo (14.8 fWAR) has been worth almost 7 more wins than Abreu (8) since Abreu came to America.
"White Sox Ahead of Cubs in Rebuilding Race"
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-05/sports/ct-haugh-city-series-spt-0506-20140506_1_jose-abreu-chris-sale-white-sox
THE PLAN SUCKS!
You might be able to collect a full set of teeth given all the heads that are exploding on the south side right now.
Quote from: flannj on July 23, 2016, 06:19:12 PM
You might be able to collect a full set of teeth given all the heads that are exploding on the south side right now.
You think Sale might want out? Here's hoping Theo smells blood in the water and pounces.
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You might be able to collect a full set of teeth given all the heads that are exploding on the south side right now.
You think Sale might want out? Here's hoping Theo smells blood in the water and pounces.
Think the Sox are dumb enough to not move Sale 70 blocks north regardless of what the Cubs offer?
I do.
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Quote from: flannj on July 23, 2016, 06:19:12 PM
You might be able to collect a full set of teeth given all the heads that are exploding on the south side right now.
You think Sale might want out? Here's hoping Theo smells blood in the water and pounces.
Think the Sox are dumb enough to not move Sale 70 blocks north regardless of what the Cubs offer?
I do.
Kaplan said there's no way the Sox would trade Sale to the Cubs no matter what was offered and thar idiot is pretty well plugged in. Reinsdorf would let a fake rivalry hurt his team
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Quote from: flannj on July 23, 2016, 06:19:12 PM
You might be able to collect a full set of teeth given all the heads that are exploding on the south side right now.
You think Sale might want out? Here's hoping Theo smells blood in the water and pounces.
Think the Sox are dumb enough to not move Sale 70 blocks north regardless of what the Cubs offer?
I do.
Kaplan said there's no way the Sox would trade Sale to the Cubs no matter what was offered and thar idiot is pretty well plugged in. Reinsdorf would let a fake rivalry hurt his team
There aren't many guys I'd be in favor of cleaning out a good portion of their top 10 prospects for, but Sale is definitely one of them. At least we can continue to enjoy the White Sox's mismanagement.
These fuckers -- I almost enjoy watching them win these games -- almost. Let them win the next two and go on a mini-tear and then let Kenny Williams complete some shitbag trade before they embark on a 10-20 August and fucking death spiral.
So he's still a very good pitcher, obviously, and he's got the stuff to get by at 93-94, but I don't think Chris Sale is the same guy anymore. He said early in the year he was trying to conserve energy and be more efficient by pitching to contact but I don't think he hit 97 at all last night even when he was in jams and trying to get the K. His average fastball velocity is down by almost 3 MPH from last year and he's striking out 3 fewer batters per 9. His FIP has gone up a full run.
Obviously he's still a top end starter with a ludicrously cheap contract but if I were the White Sox I really would sell him now because I think he's already started the slow decline phase. They could probably still get a nice return for him next year if they wanted but I doubt his value is going to go up from here.
Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2016, 08:13:56 AM
So he's still a very good pitcher, obviously, and he's got the stuff to get by at 93-94, but I don't think Chris Sale is the same guy anymore. He said early in the year he was trying to conserve energy and be more efficient by pitching to contact but I don't think he hit 97 at all last night even when he was in jams and trying to get the K. His average fastball velocity is down by almost 3 MPH from last year and he's striking out 3 fewer batters per 9. His FIP has gone up a full run.
Obviously he's still a top end starter with a ludicrously cheap contract but if I were the White Sox I really would sell him now because I think he's already started the slow decline phase. They could probably still get a nice return for him next year if they wanted but I doubt his value is going to go up from here.
Even with the couple runs he was pretty decent last night. I'd take that outing from my SP.
Ventura has to be high on the pitcher abuse charts if such a thing exists. He always seems to let Sale throw 110 pitches.
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Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2016, 08:13:56 AM
So he's still a very good pitcher, obviously, and he's got the stuff to get by at 93-94, but I don't think Chris Sale is the same guy anymore. He said early in the year he was trying to conserve energy and be more efficient by pitching to contact but I don't think he hit 97 at all last night even when he was in jams and trying to get the K. His average fastball velocity is down by almost 3 MPH from last year and he's striking out 3 fewer batters per 9. His FIP has gone up a full run.
Obviously he's still a top end starter with a ludicrously cheap contract but if I were the White Sox I really would sell him now because I think he's already started the slow decline phase. They could probably still get a nice return for him next year if they wanted but I doubt his value is going to go up from here.
Even with the couple runs he was pretty decent last night. I'd take that outing from my SP.
Ventura has to be high on the pitcher abuse charts if such a thing exists. He always seems to let Sale throw 110 pitches.
Yeah like I said he's very good and his contract makes him an absolute steal. But if they're being realistic about their chances next year I think they'll know they'll consider trading him no later than July of next year, and with the seemingly declining velocity they're probably not going to get more for him than they would this year.
Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
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Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
I was thinking Payday Loans Field.
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Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
Can't wait to see how they incorporate this logo.
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Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
Can't wait to see how they incorporate this logo.
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Hey, the CEO's grandson's nephew worked really hard on that.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2016, 04:48:45 PM
Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
Can't wait to see how they incorporate this logo.
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Hey, the CEO's grandson's nephew worked really hard on that.
Hillary's gonna sue.
Quote from: morpheus on August 26, 2016, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2016, 04:48:45 PM
Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
Can't wait to see how they incorporate this logo.
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Just stick it on the backs of their jerseys, like a big sponsorship patch.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 26, 2016, 05:26:44 PM
Quote from: morpheus on August 26, 2016, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2016, 04:48:45 PM
Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
Can't wait to see how they incorporate this logo.
(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrink_200_200/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAK0AAAAJGMxZjNiYWNiLWVjMmMtNGQ3Yy1iMjhiLWMwOTQzYjkzODA5Zg.png)
Just stick it on the backs of their jerseys, like a big sponsorship patch.
Interesting that the logo for a mortgage company is an upside down house
Quote from: thehawk on August 27, 2016, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 26, 2016, 05:26:44 PM
Quote from: morpheus on August 26, 2016, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2016, 04:48:45 PM
Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
Can't wait to see how they incorporate this logo.
(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrink_200_200/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAK0AAAAJGMxZjNiYWNiLWVjMmMtNGQ3Yy1iMjhiLWMwOTQzYjkzODA5Zg.png)
Just stick it on the backs of their jerseys, like a big sponsorship patch.
Interesting that the logo for a mortgage company is an upside down house
Houses are green. That's a hotel.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 27, 2016, 03:31:47 AM
Quote from: thehawk on August 27, 2016, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 26, 2016, 05:26:44 PM
Quote from: morpheus on August 26, 2016, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2016, 04:48:45 PM
Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
Can't wait to see how they incorporate this logo.
(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrink_200_200/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAK0AAAAJGMxZjNiYWNiLWVjMmMtNGQ3Yy1iMjhiLWMwOTQzYjkzODA5Zg.png)
Just stick it on the backs of their jerseys, like a big sponsorship patch.
Interesting that the logo for a mortgage company is an upside down house
Houses are green. That's a hotel.
I admit it. I chuckled.
Quote from: Bort on August 27, 2016, 08:33:45 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 27, 2016, 03:31:47 AM
Quote from: thehawk on August 27, 2016, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 26, 2016, 05:26:44 PM
Quote from: morpheus on August 26, 2016, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2016, 04:48:45 PM
Guaranteed Rate Field. Next up: Desipio Park.
Can't wait to see how they incorporate this logo.
(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrink_200_200/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAK0AAAAJGMxZjNiYWNiLWVjMmMtNGQ3Yy1iMjhiLWMwOTQzYjkzODA5Zg.png)
Just stick it on the backs of their jerseys, like a big sponsorship patch.
Interesting that the logo for a mortgage company is an upside down house
Houses are green. That's a hotel.
I admit it. I chuckled.
I guess the Parker Bros. copyright has expired.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/08/31/report-white-sox-placed-claim-on-yasiel-puig-but-werent-awarded-him/
Quote from: morpheus on August 31, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/08/31/report-white-sox-placed-claim-on-yasiel-puig-but-werent-awarded-him/
To be honest any team that didn't put in a claim for Puig is dumb. All of that potential, at that price? The White Sox should probably make a serious effort to get him this offseason if they still aren't going to hit the rebuild button.
Quote from: SKO on August 31, 2016, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 31, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/08/31/report-white-sox-placed-claim-on-yasiel-puig-but-werent-awarded-him/
To be honest any team that didn't put in a claim for Puig is dumb. All of that potential, at that price? The White Sox should probably make a serious effort to get him this offseason if they still aren't going to hit the rebuild button.
Any team? meh. The White Sox? Yes, they would have been dumb not to claim him.
I was in Puig's corner in the beginning. Part of it was because he infuriated Cardinal fans. As time goes on, it sounds like he's an actual pain in the ass, so I don't blame certain teams that don't *need* his services for passing on him.
Quote from: Yeti on August 31, 2016, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 31, 2016, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 31, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/08/31/report-white-sox-placed-claim-on-yasiel-puig-but-werent-awarded-him/
To be honest any team that didn't put in a claim for Puig is dumb. All of that potential, at that price? The White Sox should probably make a serious effort to get him this offseason if they still aren't going to hit the rebuild button.
Yeah that's fair, I guess I meant "any team in bad enough shape that successfully claiming him on waivers is a realistic possibility. I wouldn't really want the Cubs to claim him since at this point he's basically Soler with an attitude problem, but any team trying to contend soon that doesn't have an abundance of talent should absolutely be trying to make him work.
Any team? meh. The White Sox? Yes, they would have been dumb not to claim him.
I was in Puig's corner in the beginning. Part of it was because he infuriated Cardinal fans. As time goes on, it sounds like he's an actual pain in the ass, so I don't blame certain teams that don't *need* his services for passing on him.
Quote from: SKO on August 31, 2016, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 31, 2016, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 31, 2016, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 31, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/08/31/report-white-sox-placed-claim-on-yasiel-puig-but-werent-awarded-him/
To be honest any team that didn't put in a claim for Puig is dumb. All of that potential, at that price? The White Sox should probably make a serious effort to get him this offseason if they still aren't going to hit the rebuild button.
Yeah that's fair, I guess I meant "any team in bad enough shape that successfully claiming him on waivers is a realistic possibility. I wouldn't really want the Cubs to claim him since at this point he's basically Soler with an attitude problem, but any team trying to contend soon that doesn't have an abundance of talent should absolutely be trying to make him work.
Any team? meh. The White Sox? Yes, they would have been dumb not to claim him.
I was in Puig's corner in the beginning. Part of it was because he infuriated Cardinal fans. As time goes on, it sounds like he's an actual pain in the ass, so I don't blame certain teams that don't *need* his services for passing on him.
The paternity results are in and Fork...you
are the father.
Quote from: Bort on August 31, 2016, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 31, 2016, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 31, 2016, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 31, 2016, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 31, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/08/31/report-white-sox-placed-claim-on-yasiel-puig-but-werent-awarded-him/
To be honest any team that didn't put in a claim for Puig is dumb. All of that potential, at that price? The White Sox should probably make a serious effort to get him this offseason if they still aren't going to hit the rebuild button.
Yeah that's fair, I guess I meant "any team in bad enough shape that successfully claiming him on waivers is a realistic possibility. I wouldn't really want the Cubs to claim him since at this point he's basically Soler with an attitude problem, but any team trying to contend soon that doesn't have an abundance of talent should absolutely be trying to make him work.
Any team? meh. The White Sox? Yes, they would have been dumb not to claim him.
I was in Puig's corner in the beginning. Part of it was because he infuriated Cardinal fans. As time goes on, it sounds like he's an actual pain in the ass, so I don't blame certain teams that don't *need* his services for passing on him.
The paternity results are in and Fork...you are the father.
I totally was crafting the same/similar joke in my head when I saw that bungled ForkQuote.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on August 31, 2016, 10:56:39 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 31, 2016, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 31, 2016, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 31, 2016, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 31, 2016, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 31, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/08/31/report-white-sox-placed-claim-on-yasiel-puig-but-werent-awarded-him/
To be honest any team that didn't put in a claim for Puig is dumb. All of that potential, at that price? The White Sox should probably make a serious effort to get him this offseason if they still aren't going to hit the rebuild button.
Yeah that's fair, I guess I meant "any team in bad enough shape that successfully claiming him on waivers is a realistic possibility. I wouldn't really want the Cubs to claim him since at this point he's basically Soler with an attitude problem, but any team trying to contend soon that doesn't have an abundance of talent should absolutely be trying to make him work.
Any team? meh. The White Sox? Yes, they would have been dumb not to claim him.
I was in Puig's corner in the beginning. Part of it was because he infuriated Cardinal fans. As time goes on, it sounds like he's an actual pain in the ass, so I don't blame certain teams that don't *need* his services for passing on him.
The paternity results are in and Fork...you are the father.
I totally was crafting the same/similar joke in my head when I saw that bungled ForkQuote.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/09/28/mlb-managers-hot-seat-robin-ventura-chip-hale/91226072/
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The Chicago White Sox have decided to retain manager Robin Ventura and will sign him to new contract providing Ventura wants to return, a high-ranking White Sox official told USA TODAY Sports
Outside of the constant losing, the terrible lineups with Jimmy Rollins batting second, the horrible bullpen management, and the multiple public shitfits the team's ace had regarding the lack of leadership in the organization, you have to admit he's done a bang up job
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2016, 01:17:38 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/09/28/mlb-managers-hot-seat-robin-ventura-chip-hale/91226072/
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The Chicago White Sox have decided to retain manager Robin Ventura and will sign him to new contract providing Ventura wants to return, a high-ranking White Sox official told USA TODAY Sports
Outside of the constant losing, the terrible lineups with Jimmy Rollins batting second, the horrible bullpen management, and the multiple public shitfits the team's ace had regarding the lack of leadership in the organization, you have to admit he's done a bang up job
Good luck with that, White Sox. I had my money on signing Alexei Ramirez as player-manager for life, but you can't win 'em all.
Good god the Sox just possess nothing but contempt for their deplorable fanbase.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
Good god the Sox just possess nothing but contempt for their deplorable fanbase.
The only thing that would make this fall better would be Metheny signing a 10-year extension.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2016, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
Good god the Sox just possess nothing but contempt for their deplorable fanbase.
The only thing that would make this fall better would be Metheny signing a 10-year extension.
Not quite 10 years... (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/09/cardinals-retain-will-not-fire-mike-matheny-return-2017-rumors.html)
Quote from: Oleg on September 28, 2016, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2016, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
Good god the Sox just possess nothing but contempt for their deplorable fanbase.
The only thing that would make this fall better would be Metheny signing a 10-year extension.
Not quite 10 years... (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/09/cardinals-retain-will-not-fire-mike-matheny-return-2017-rumors.html)
Before we get too schadenfreude-ey on such things, I suppose we should bear in mind that Ned Yost won 2 straight pennants and a World Series, while Joe Maddon has not won any championships (yet).
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 28, 2016, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2016, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
Good god the Sox just possess nothing but contempt for their deplorable fanbase.
The only thing that would make this fall better would be Metheny signing a 10-year extension.
Not quite 10 years... (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/09/cardinals-retain-will-not-fire-mike-matheny-return-2017-rumors.html)
Before we get too schadenfreude-ey on such things, I suppose we should bear in mind that Ned Yost won 2 straight pennants and a World Series, while Joe Maddon has not won any championships (yet).
To be fair to Yost he aggressively deployed his best relievers in ways that Mike "Lost an NLCS Because He Used Michael Wacha in Relief Instead of Rosenthal Because You Can't Use Your Closer in a Tie Game On the Road" Matheny would never have dreamed. It probably wrecked Greg Holland and now maybe Wade Davis but it got them two pennants and a ring. I believe someone actually ran the numbers on all of his aggressive bunting in the 2014 playoffs and determined that they actually did add win expectancy for the most part. He seems to have learned quite a bit since his Milwaukee days, whereas Matheny remains as dumb as ever.
Bumped in anticipation of the Sox getting rogered royally in a Sale trade.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 15, 2016, 12:46:31 PM
Bumped in anticipation of the Sox getting Rogers'd royally in a Sale trade.
Since it'll probably be +4'd
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 15, 2016, 12:46:31 PM
Bumped in anticipation of the Sox getting rogered royally in a Sale trade.
You know I was all set on the whole "the White Sox need to rebuild" train, but then James Feagin The Athletic both wrote good articles about how, basically, Sale/Quintana/Rodon/Eaton/Abreu/Anderson is, while not quite as good as the Cubs, about as strong a core of 5-6 cost-controlled players you could hope to get out of any rebuilding effort. They aren't convinced the White Sox could trade them all away and eventually end up with more good players than what they have right now. The problem, and the difference between the Cubs and Sox as they see it, is that Cubs ownership will spend to supplement their core (Lester/Fowler/Zobrist/Lackey etc) and the Sox won't.
So basically they don't want a rebuild because the odds are the Sox will trade away six players that are worth about 20 WAR to them and eventually, maybe, in a best case scenario get a similar core and then they won't spend to supplement those guys, and they'll still be stuck in 78-84 win purgatory all over again after a bunch of even worse years.
A good example of this is the Astros. They've tanked and stocked their prospect bins as much as possible and still have a hard time getting past 85-87 wins, and now they're talking about opening up the purse strings to put them over the top.
Long story short, the Sox need to stop being fucking cheap. This year they probably can't spend their way to a pennant, but last year they sure as hell could have. If the Sox had added guys like Fowler, Desmond, Napoli, and even Rich Hill they'd have hardly fucked themselves forever with ridiculous contracts, but they could easily have won that division and who knows what else with Sale/Quintana/Rodon in a short series. Instead they signed Austin Jackson, Jimmy Rollins, and Mat Latos.
Quote from: SKO on November 15, 2016, 12:57:52 PMbut then James Feagin The Athletic both wrote good articles
The whole both James Feagin The Athletic?
Quote from: R-V on November 15, 2016, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 15, 2016, 12:57:52 PMbut then James Feagin The Athletic both wrote good articles
The whole both James Feagin The Athletic?
I was originally gonna say James Feagin of the Athletic and one of the BP Southside dudes both wrote articles, but in remembering I think maybe Feagin basically just wrote the same article on both sites, or something, and then I tried to edit and pank'd everything. Burn it all down, boys.
The Sox had let it be known that they will not talk with the Cubs about Chris Sale.
Because it's always a good idea when holding an auction to lock the bidder with the deepest pockets out.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 29, 2016, 02:24:59 PM
The Sox had let it be known that they will not talk with the Cubs about Chris Sale.
Because it's always a good idea when holding an auction to lock the bidder with the deepest pockets out.
Yeah, but what if the White Sox end up helping the Cubs break the curse? Think of the fallout.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 29, 2016, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 29, 2016, 02:24:59 PM
The Sox had let it be known that they will not talk with the Cubs about Chris Sale.
Because it's always a good idea when holding an auction to lock the bidder with the deepest pockets out.
Yeah, but what if the White Sox end up helping the Cubs break the curse? Think of the fallout.
Kinda want Theo and Jed to leak that they offered Scwharber, Eloy, Baez, and Happ and were rebuffed just to really make the Sox look stupid.
Quote from: SKO on November 29, 2016, 03:40:42 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 29, 2016, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 29, 2016, 02:24:59 PM
The Sox had let it be known that they will not talk with the Cubs about Chris Sale.
Because it's always a good idea when holding an auction to lock the bidder with the deepest pockets out.
Yeah, but what if the White Sox end up helping the Cubs break the curse? Think of the fallout.
Kinda want Theo and Jed to leak that they offered Scwharber, Eloy, Baez, and Happ and were rebuffed just to really make the Sox look stupid.
That would make them look foolish, too.
Quote from: ChuckD on November 30, 2016, 05:57:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 29, 2016, 03:40:42 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 29, 2016, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 29, 2016, 02:24:59 PM
The Sox had let it be known that they will not talk with the Cubs about Chris Sale.
Because it's always a good idea when holding an auction to lock the bidder with the deepest pockets out.
Yeah, but what if the White Sox end up helping the Cubs break the curse? Think of the fallout.
Kinda want Theo and Jed to leak that they offered Scwharber, Eloy, Baez, and Happ and were rebuffed just to really make the Sox look stupid.
That would make them look foolish, too.
Nah, they can do no wrong right now. Cubs Twitter would explain in detail why this was good, actually.
The sell-off is definitely here. Sale for Moncada, Eaton for Giolito, very likely more to come. Not sure I'm ready for a competent, rational White Sox front office.
Also, if you're the Nationals, why would you trade for Eaton when you can just sign Dexter Fowler and keep your prospect powder dry? Weird.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on December 08, 2016, 01:07:30 PM
Also, if you're the Nationals, why would you trade for Eaton when you can just sign Dexter Fowler and keep your prospect powder dry? Weird.
They're already close to maxed out on payroll as it is, Eaton is cheap, and they've been offering deferred money like crazy to FAs and some guys may prefer to get paid up front.
I feel the need to commemorate their hilarious loss last night. Tim Anderson homers in extras and Hawk is ready to leave the booth to "check on him" (blow him). They go to the bottom of the inning to lock it down but instead David Robertson (who is seemingly incapable of throwing anything but knuckle-curves over and over) and their defense have a total meltdown in the bottom of the inning and the Angels walk off. Cameron Maybin "doubles" on a feeble attempt to catch a shallow outfield popup by Anderson that I'm convinced Addison catches every time. Then Pujols "singles" to center on a ball that seemed to bounce off Leury Garcia's face. It was funny as shit, you guys.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 17, 2017, 11:18:21 AM
I feel the need to commemorate their hilarious loss last night. Tim Anderson homers in extras and Hawk is ready to leave the booth to "check on him" (blow him). They go to the bottom of the inning to lock it down but instead David Robertson (who is seemingly incapable of throwing anything but knuckle-curves over and over) and their defense have a total meltdown in the bottom of the inning and the Angels walk off. Cameron Maybin "doubles" on a feeble attempt to catch a shallow outfield popup by Anderson that I'm convinced Addison catches every time. Then Pujols "singles" to center on a ball that seemed to bounce off Leury Garcia's face. It was funny as shit, you guys.
Garcia taking the game-winning hit off of his face was funny, otherwise I can't really spend too much time mocking a team trying to lose. Since they apparently aren't interested in moving Quintana to the Cubs I do hope he goes back to pitching like shit and cratering his trade value.
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2017, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 17, 2017, 11:18:21 AM
I feel the need to commemorate their hilarious loss last night. Tim Anderson homers in extras and Hawk is ready to leave the booth to "check on him" (blow him). They go to the bottom of the inning to lock it down but instead David Robertson (who is seemingly incapable of throwing anything but knuckle-curves over and over) and their defense have a total meltdown in the bottom of the inning and the Angels walk off. Cameron Maybin "doubles" on a feeble attempt to catch a shallow outfield popup by Anderson that I'm convinced Addison catches every time. Then Pujols "singles" to center on a ball that seemed to bounce off Leury Garcia's face. It was funny as shit, you guys.
Garcia taking the game-winning hit off of his face was funny, otherwise I can't really spend too much time mocking a team trying to lose. Since they apparently aren't interested in moving Quintana to the Cubs I do hope he goes back to pitching like shit and cratering his trade value.
Telling Sox fans their team is "Cubs South" is one of my favorite things.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 17, 2017, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2017, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 17, 2017, 11:18:21 AM
I feel the need to commemorate their hilarious loss last night. Tim Anderson homers in extras and Hawk is ready to leave the booth to "check on him" (blow him). They go to the bottom of the inning to lock it down but instead David Robertson (who is seemingly incapable of throwing anything but knuckle-curves over and over) and their defense have a total meltdown in the bottom of the inning and the Angels walk off. Cameron Maybin "doubles" on a feeble attempt to catch a shallow outfield popup by Anderson that I'm convinced Addison catches every time. Then Pujols "singles" to center on a ball that seemed to bounce off Leury Garcia's face. It was funny as shit, you guys.
Garcia taking the game-winning hit off of his face was funny, otherwise I can't really spend too much time mocking a team trying to lose. Since they apparently aren't interested in moving Quintana to the Cubs I do hope he goes back to pitching like shit and cratering his trade value.
Telling Sox fans their team is "Cubs South" is one of my favorite things.
Being a Sox fan has to suck so much right now. At least Cardinals fans can fall back on the ELEVEN RINGS BITCH thing, dumb as it is, the Sox have absolutely nothing. One fluke of a title now over a decade ago.
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2017, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 17, 2017, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2017, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 17, 2017, 11:18:21 AM
I feel the need to commemorate their hilarious loss last night. Tim Anderson homers in extras and Hawk is ready to leave the booth to "check on him" (blow him). They go to the bottom of the inning to lock it down but instead David Robertson (who is seemingly incapable of throwing anything but knuckle-curves over and over) and their defense have a total meltdown in the bottom of the inning and the Angels walk off. Cameron Maybin "doubles" on a feeble attempt to catch a shallow outfield popup by Anderson that I'm convinced Addison catches every time. Then Pujols "singles" to center on a ball that seemed to bounce off Leury Garcia's face. It was funny as shit, you guys.
Garcia taking the game-winning hit off of his face was funny, otherwise I can't really spend too much time mocking a team trying to lose. Since they apparently aren't interested in moving Quintana to the Cubs I do hope he goes back to pitching like shit and cratering his trade value.
Telling Sox fans their team is "Cubs South" is one of my favorite things.
Being a Sox fan has to suck so much right now. At least Cardinals fans can fall back on the ELEVEN RINGS BITCH thing, dumb as it is, the Sox have absolutely nothing. One fluke of a title now over a decade ago.
Cardinals fans also have the fact that their team is in first place right now, so there's that.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 17, 2017, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2017, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 17, 2017, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2017, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 17, 2017, 11:18:21 AM
I feel the need to commemorate their hilarious loss last night. Tim Anderson homers in extras and Hawk is ready to leave the booth to "check on him" (blow him). They go to the bottom of the inning to lock it down but instead David Robertson (who is seemingly incapable of throwing anything but knuckle-curves over and over) and their defense have a total meltdown in the bottom of the inning and the Angels walk off. Cameron Maybin "doubles" on a feeble attempt to catch a shallow outfield popup by Anderson that I'm convinced Addison catches every time. Then Pujols "singles" to center on a ball that seemed to bounce off Leury Garcia's face. It was funny as shit, you guys.
Garcia taking the game-winning hit off of his face was funny, otherwise I can't really spend too much time mocking a team trying to lose. Since they apparently aren't interested in moving Quintana to the Cubs I do hope he goes back to pitching like shit and cratering his trade value.
Telling Sox fans their team is "Cubs South" is one of my favorite things.
Being a Sox fan has to suck so much right now. At least Cardinals fans can fall back on the ELEVEN RINGS BITCH thing, dumb as it is, the Sox have absolutely nothing. One fluke of a title now over a decade ago.
Cardinals fans also have the fact that their team is in first place right now, so there's that.
That'll be over soon enough.
It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 19, 2017, 08:33:52 AM
It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Quote from: SKO on July 19, 2017, 08:45:02 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 19, 2017, 08:33:52 AM
It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Yeah the Cubs winning the world series pretty much puts the final nail in that coffin, at least for a generation or so. The Sox had a real opportunity to build some momentum around '05 and failed miserably.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Yeah the Cubs winning the world series pretty much puts the final nail in that coffin, at least for a generation or so. The Sox had a real opportunity to build some momentum around '05 and failed miserably.
The '05 team was lightning in a bottle. There wasn't anything to build from.
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 19, 2017, 08:33:52 AM
It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Yeah the Cubs winning the world series pretty much puts the final nail in that coffin, at least for a generation or so. The Sox had a real opportunity to build some momentum around '05 and failed miserably.
The '05 team was lightning in a bottle. There wasn't anything to build from.
Oh yeah, it was a fluke and that's why it wasn't sustainable, my point was just if they had, somehow, sustained it they might have been able to chip away from the Cubs in a way they hadn't before. Pretty much every opportunity the Sox have had to become THE TEAM has been followed by them face-planting while the Cubs enjoy enough success that people who might have wavered stay on board. 83 White Sox followed by 84 Cubs, early 90s Sox did the White Flag trade round the same time Sosa was getting going for the Cubs, then as soon as what was left of the 05 Sox went belly up in 07 the Cubs had back to back division winners.
2006 was just the only time I ever saw White Sox hats/jerseys in any kind of numbers all the way out in western Illinois/Iowa. They had a chance, and it went away fast.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
When does Comiskularate Field lease expire? Sox could be a candidate to move to Vegas, Charlotte, or Montreal.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
When does Comiskularate Field lease expire? Sox could be a candidate to move to Vegas, Charlotte, or Montreal.
2029
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
Plus, his (half) ownership of the UC beats the Down Arrow, even if he owned it. That place is dark 324 nights a year. The UC probably never has less than 200 events a year. That's a lot of cars parked and promoter dollars.
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Plus, his (half) ownership of the UC beats the Down Arrow, even if he owned it. That place is dark 324 nights a year. The UC probably never has less than 200 events a year. That's a lot of cars parked and promoter dollars.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-sox-cell-funding-isfa-met-20160521-story.html
He's still doing better at Comiskey right now:
"the deal requires any nonbaseball events to be approved by the Sox, which some have said deprives the authority of the opportunity to book concerts and other lucrative activities.
Several years ago, the authority paid nearly $7 million to build a 10,000-square-foot restaurant outside the stadium, now called the ChiSox Bar & Grill. The team pitched in $1 million, but the authority agreed to forgo any profits at Reinsdorf's request.
Under the deal, the Sox didn't have to pay a fee for use of the stadium until 2008. In 2015, that fee amounted to about $1.6 million.
The Sox also must pay a fee on each ticket sold in excess of 1.93 million in paid attendance. Since 2008, the Sox have paid that fee only in 2010, when games drew 2.2 million fans. However, the Sox were allowed to apply a credit based on the taxes the team paid that year, reducing the ticket fee payment from $455,974 to $95,531."
"Gov. Jim Thompson worked the floors of the General Assembly to pass a law creating the facilities authority in order to build a new ballpark. (Thompson later served as the authority's board chairman.) The clock on the House floor was turned off in order to meet a midnight deadline."
Thompson's version of Medicare D. He's our worst former governor not in jail. What a fucking hack job.
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
Plus, his (half) ownership of the UC beats the Down Arrow, even if he owned it. That place is dark 324 nights a year. The UC probably never has less than 200 events a year. That's a lot of cars parked and promoter dollars.
324?
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
Plus, his (half) ownership of the UC beats the Down Arrow, even if he owned it. That place is dark 324 nights a year. The UC probably never has less than 200 events a year. That's a lot of cars parked and promoter dollars.
324?
325 in leap years. It's dark except for Sox games. Shit, they can't even get a country act booked in there.
Maybe they book the park for commercials and shit, but they probably even do those before games.
ETA: They had one gig last year, Chance the Rapper. So 323.
Give Jerry Reinsdorf credit: the fucker is good at being a greedy shithead
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Give Jerry Reinsdorf credit: the fucker is good at being a greedy shithead
I would also like the ability to "request" that others "forgo profit" and give it all to me instead. Nice work if you can get it.
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 19, 2017, 03:26:52 PM
Plus, his (half) ownership of the UC beats the Down Arrow, even if he owned it. That place is dark 324 nights a year. The UC probably never has less than 200 events a year. That's a lot of cars parked and promoter dollars.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-sox-cell-funding-isfa-met-20160521-story.html
He's still doing better at Comiskey right now:
"the deal requires any nonbaseball events to be approved by the Sox, which some have said deprives the authority of the opportunity to book concerts and other lucrative activities.
Several years ago, the authority paid nearly $7 million to build a 10,000-square-foot restaurant outside the stadium, now called the ChiSox Bar & Grill. The team pitched in $1 million, but the authority agreed to forgo any profits at Reinsdorf's request.
Under the deal, the Sox didn't have to pay a fee for use of the stadium until 2008. In 2015, that fee amounted to about $1.6 million.
The Sox also must pay a fee on each ticket sold in excess of 1.93 million in paid attendance. Since 2008, the Sox have paid that fee only in 2010, when games drew 2.2 million fans. However, the Sox were allowed to apply a credit based on the taxes the team paid that year, reducing the ticket fee payment from $455,974 to $95,531."
"Gov. Jim Thompson worked the floors of the General Assembly to pass a law creating the facilities authority in order to build a new ballpark. (Thompson later served as the authority's board chairman.) The clock on the House floor was turned off in order to meet a midnight deadline."
Thompson's version of Medicare D. He's our worst former governor not in jail. What a fucking hack job.
Jim Thompson is a piece of shit. (https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/taxpayers-subsidize-white-sox-park/Content?oid=9371315)
QuoteWhen the Tribune asked why he'd agree to these terms, Thompson replied, "We said to Jerry, 'Jerry, can we have part of the profits?' And he said, no. We said, OK. I've known Jerry for 52 years. He's tough. He's tough."
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
Plus, his (half) ownership of the UC beats the Down Arrow, even if he owned it. That place is dark 324 nights a year. The UC probably never has less than 200 events a year. That's a lot of cars parked and promoter dollars.
324?
325 in leap years. It's dark except for Sox games. Shit, they can't even get a country act booked in there.
Maybe they book the park for commercials and shit, but they probably even do those before games.
ETA: They had one gig last year, Chance the Rapper. So 323.
Did the White Sox apply for membership in the NHL? It says here they have 81 home games. So 284.
They also had about 25 people attend NIU-Toledo on November 9.
(http://www.chicagonow.com/prairie-state-pigskin/files/2017/01/NIU.jpg)
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It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
Plus, his (half) ownership of the UC beats the Down Arrow, even if he owned it. That place is dark 324 nights a year. The UC probably never has less than 200 events a year. That's a lot of cars parked and promoter dollars.
324?
325 in leap years. It's dark except for Sox games. Shit, they can't even get a country act booked in there.
Maybe they book the park for commercials and shit, but they probably even do those before games.
ETA: They had one gig last year, Chance the Rapper. So 323.
Did the White Sox apply for membership in the NHL? It says here they have 81 home games. So 284.
They also had about 25 people attend NIU-Toledo on November 9.
(http://www.chicagonow.com/prairie-state-pigskin/files/2017/01/NIU.jpg)
Thank you.
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 19, 2017, 08:33:52 AM
It's going to be hard to make fun of them from here on out. Rick Hahn is doing a solid Theo imitation.
Let's see how the draft goes for them, they've got some work to do if they're going to catch the Phillies for the first overall pick.
Actually I think the easy way to make fun of them is to point out that the reason their rebuild is going so awesome is because normally teams that are rebuilding don't have a billion young, cheap, controllable players like Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu to trade, because most teams would have spent money and figured out how to actually win something with that group.
Yeah, but the change in the Sox's organizational thinking perfectly coincides with Hahn actually getting free reign. Kenny Williams is a fucking dunce. I don't even think you could find Sox fans who would argue that point.
I think Rick Hahn is a smart dude, but "free reign" to trade and wheel and deal is not the same as getting the cash he's going to eventually need to put them over the top. It is extremely hard to build an entire world series contender from the ground up. The Royals are about the only team in recent memory that has done it. The Cubs smartly built a core that gave them production and cost certainty but they wouldn't have done what they did the last two years without dropping serious cash on Lester/Lackey/Zobrist/Heyward/Fowler that the White Sox have rarely ever been willing to commit. The Astros did the greatest tear it all down rebuild of them all and even they realized before this year they needed to plop down a bunch of cash for guys like McCann and Reddick.
Also I mean as awesome as the players they've acquired are the odds are probably still against even one of them becoming as great of a player as Chris Sale was. I still think the likeliest scenario for a Sox rebuild is they end up with the same 85 win true talent roster they refuse to add on to that they had before this year.
The more likely scenario is that a different owner will make those spending decisions. Reinsdorf has said for years that his family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox after he's gone. http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-suggests-selling-chicago-white-sox-succession-plans
Wow. That man really fucking hates Bulls fans.
He makes a fuckload more dough off the NBA and United Center revenue than he'd ever make off having the second-most popular baseball team in town.
Not sure that's right given the way the lease is on Comiskey as of today. But, he owns the UC and only leases Comiskey. Leases can change. Long term upside far higher on the UC property. Further, with a salary cap in the NBA, profits are pretty much guaranteed vs. MLB.
Plus, his (half) ownership of the UC beats the Down Arrow, even if he owned it. That place is dark 324 nights a year. The UC probably never has less than 200 events a year. That's a lot of cars parked and promoter dollars.
324?
325 in leap years. It's dark except for Sox games. Shit, they can't even get a country act booked in there.
Maybe they book the park for commercials and shit, but they probably even do those before games.
ETA: They had one gig last year, Chance the Rapper. So 323.
Did the White Sox apply for membership in the NHL? It says here they have 81 home games. So 284.
They also had about 25 people attend NIU-Toledo on November 9.
(http://www.chicagonow.com/prairie-state-pigskin/files/2017/01/NIU.jpg)
Thank you.
You didn't account for day games and evenings when the GRF has power outages [/lawyer]
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You didn't account for day games and evenings when the GRF has power outages [/lawyer]
Is that it? The GeRF?
Welington Castillo signs with the White Sox, surprisingly. SKO's new favorite team?
I always enjoy hearing stories about former pro athletes who have gone on to successful careers in the business world. (http://wgntv.com/2018/02/12/former-white-sox-pitcher-esteban-loaiza-arrested-with-over-44-pound-of-cocaine-heroin/) Distributors can tell you that it's a tough business; your products can be commoditized, margins can be thin, inventory can kill you on the balance sheet. But when you see someone doing so well in California of all places -- that's remarkable.
Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
I always enjoy hearing stories about former pro athletes who have gone on to successful careers in the business world. (http://wgntv.com/2018/02/12/former-white-sox-pitcher-esteban-loaiza-arrested-with-over-44-pound-of-cocaine-heroin/) Distributors can tell you that it's a tough business; your products can be commoditized, margins can be thin, inventory can kill you on the balance sheet. But when you see someone doing so well in California of all places -- that's remarkable.
This is not really what I mean when I say I don't care about an athlete's personal life as long as they do well between those white lines.
Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
I always enjoy hearing stories about former pro athletes who have gone on to successful careers in the business world. (http://wgntv.com/2018/02/12/former-white-sox-pitcher-esteban-loaiza-arrested-with-over-44-pound-of-cocaine-heroin/) Distributors can tell you that it's a tough business; your products can be commoditized, margins can be thin, inventory can kill you on the balance sheet. But when you see someone doing so well in California of all places -- that's remarkable.
Thanks to NAFTA, it's pretty easy to get 20 keys across the border.
I talked briefly about this on twitter but I figured this crowd might appreciate it more. So I was off Monday and more or less snowed (iced?) in and I watched the Joy in Wrigleyville MLB documentary on YouTube. After that it autoplayed an MLB Network documentary about the 90s Indians (The Dynasty that Almost Was) which I enjoyed. Then it autoplayed one about the 84 Padres (I can see now why you all really, really hate Steve Garvey. He comes off as a sanctimonious prick and then I googled his stat line and saw that fucker had a .680 OPS with 8 homers in the regular season yet hit .400/.429/.600 in that series and now I'm mad about a guy that retired before I was born).
Anyway, after all of that, and long after I had buried myself in Funyons and lost the remote, SOX PRIDE: THE STORY OF THE 2005 WHITE SOX (narrated by Hawk Harrelson) started and for some reason I made myself watch like 30 minutes of it and they spend at least 5-10 minutes of their world series documentary bragging about taking 2 of 3 games at Wrigley from a 79 win Cubs team. I don't know what is more sad, that they felt the need to put AND DEY BEAT DA CUBZ in their world series film, or that they really didn't, considering the Cubs took 2/3 at Comiskular later in the year to tie the season series at 3-3. I can say I've watched like 3-4 different documentaries or shows about the Cubs winning the World Series and the White Sox are never even mentioned.
Quote from: SKO on February 21, 2018, 11:18:16 AM
I talked briefly about this on twitter but I figured this crowd might appreciate it more. So I was off Monday and more or less snowed (iced?) in and I watched the Joy in Wrigleyville MLB documentary on YouTube. After that it autoplayed an MLB Network documentary about the 90s Indians (The Dynasty that Almost Was) which I enjoyed. Then it autoplayed one about the 84 Padres (I can see now why you all really, really hate Steve Garvey. He comes off as a sanctimonious prick and then I googled his stat line and saw that fucker had a .680 OPS with 8 homers in the regular season yet hit .400/.429/.600 in that series and now I'm mad about a guy that retired before I was born).
Anyway, after all of that, and long after I had buried myself in Funyons and lost the remote, SOX PRIDE: THE STORY OF THE 2005 WHITE SOX (narrated by Hawk Harrelson) started and for some reason I made myself watch like 30 minutes of it and they spend at least 5-10 minutes of their world series documentary bragging about taking 2 of 3 games at Wrigley from a 79 win Cubs team. I don't know what is more sad, that they felt the need to put AND DEY BEAT DA CUBZ in their world series film, or that they really didn't, considering the Cubs took 2/3 at Comiskular later in the year to tie the season series at 3-3. I can say I've watched like 3-4 different documentaries or shows about the Cubs winning the World Series and the White Sox are never even mentioned.
You can't spell White Sox without "Who?"
Quote from: SKO on February 21, 2018, 11:18:16 AM
I talked briefly about this on twitter but I figured this crowd might appreciate it more. So I was off Monday and more or less snowed (iced?) in and I watched the Joy in Wrigleyville MLB documentary on YouTube. After that it autoplayed an MLB Network documentary about the 90s Indians (The Dynasty that Almost Was) which I enjoyed. Then it autoplayed one about the 84 Padres (I can see now why you all really, really hate Steve Garvey. He comes off as a sanctimonious prick and then I googled his stat line and saw that fucker had a .680 OPS with 8 homers in the regular season yet hit .400/.429/.600 in that series and now I'm mad about a guy that retired before I was born).
Anyway, after all of that, and long after I had buried myself in Funyons and lost the remote, SOX PRIDE: THE STORY OF THE 2005 WHITE SOX (narrated by Hawk Harrelson) started and for some reason I made myself watch like 30 minutes of it and they spend at least 5-10 minutes of their world series documentary bragging about taking 2 of 3 games at Wrigley from a 79 win Cubs team. I don't know what is more sad, that they felt the need to put AND DEY BEAT DA CUBZ in their world series film, or that they really didn't, considering the Cubs took 2/3 at Comiskular later in the year to tie the season series at 3-3. I can say I've watched like 3-4 different documentaries or shows about the Cubs winning the World Series and the White Sox are never even mentioned.
You wrote a post mentioning both Steve Garvey and Hawk Harrelson.
I'm gonna punch you so hard.
Quote from: flannj on February 21, 2018, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 21, 2018, 11:18:16 AM
I talked briefly about this on twitter but I figured this crowd might appreciate it more. So I was off Monday and more or less snowed (iced?) in and I watched the Joy in Wrigleyville MLB documentary on YouTube. After that it autoplayed an MLB Network documentary about the 90s Indians (The Dynasty that Almost Was) which I enjoyed. Then it autoplayed one about the 84 Padres (I can see now why you all really, really hate Steve Garvey. He comes off as a sanctimonious prick and then I googled his stat line and saw that fucker had a .680 OPS with 8 homers in the regular season yet hit .400/.429/.600 in that series and now I'm mad about a guy that retired before I was born).
Anyway, after all of that, and long after I had buried myself in Funyons and lost the remote, SOX PRIDE: THE STORY OF THE 2005 WHITE SOX (narrated by Hawk Harrelson) started and for some reason I made myself watch like 30 minutes of it and they spend at least 5-10 minutes of their world series documentary bragging about taking 2 of 3 games at Wrigley from a 79 win Cubs team. I don't know what is more sad, that they felt the need to put AND DEY BEAT DA CUBZ in their world series film, or that they really didn't, considering the Cubs took 2/3 at Comiskular later in the year to tie the season series at 3-3. I can say I've watched like 3-4 different documentaries or shows about the Cubs winning the World Series and the White Sox are never even mentioned.
You wrote a post mentioning both Steve Garvey and Hawk Harrelson.
I'm gonna punch you so hard.
Sorry, SKO. Those are the rules.
Quote from: Bort on February 21, 2018, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 21, 2018, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 21, 2018, 11:18:16 AM
I talked briefly about this on twitter but I figured this crowd might appreciate it more. So I was off Monday and more or less snowed (iced?) in and I watched the Joy in Wrigleyville MLB documentary on YouTube. After that it autoplayed an MLB Network documentary about the 90s Indians (The Dynasty that Almost Was) which I enjoyed. Then it autoplayed one about the 84 Padres (I can see now why you all really, really hate Steve Garvey. He comes off as a sanctimonious prick and then I googled his stat line and saw that fucker had a .680 OPS with 8 homers in the regular season yet hit .400/.429/.600 in that series and now I'm mad about a guy that retired before I was born).
Anyway, after all of that, and long after I had buried myself in Funyons and lost the remote, SOX PRIDE: THE STORY OF THE 2005 WHITE SOX (narrated by Hawk Harrelson) started and for some reason I made myself watch like 30 minutes of it and they spend at least 5-10 minutes of their world series documentary bragging about taking 2 of 3 games at Wrigley from a 79 win Cubs team. I don't know what is more sad, that they felt the need to put AND DEY BEAT DA CUBZ in their world series film, or that they really didn't, considering the Cubs took 2/3 at Comiskular later in the year to tie the season series at 3-3. I can say I've watched like 3-4 different documentaries or shows about the Cubs winning the World Series and the White Sox are never even mentioned.
You wrote a post mentioning both Steve Garvey and Hawk Harrelson.
I'm gonna punch you so hard.
Sorry, SKO. Those are the rules.
I mean as a Cubs fan who largely associates with older Cubs fans I felt cheated of my 1984 Scars when we would all play our favorite game of Who's More Grizzled, so if Flannj wants to punch me in the face because he's mad about Steve Garvey I feel like that would count as 84-related trauma.
Even when he was a Dodger, I always wanted to grab Steve Garvey by the neck and force him to go bobbing for french fries.
Quote from: SKO on February 21, 2018, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 21, 2018, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 21, 2018, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 21, 2018, 11:18:16 AM
I talked briefly about this on twitter but I figured this crowd might appreciate it more. So I was off Monday and more or less snowed (iced?) in and I watched the Joy in Wrigleyville MLB documentary on YouTube. After that it autoplayed an MLB Network documentary about the 90s Indians (The Dynasty that Almost Was) which I enjoyed. Then it autoplayed one about the 84 Padres (I can see now why you all really, really hate Steve Garvey. He comes off as a sanctimonious prick and then I googled his stat line and saw that fucker had a .680 OPS with 8 homers in the regular season yet hit .400/.429/.600 in that series and now I'm mad about a guy that retired before I was born).
Anyway, after all of that, and long after I had buried myself in Funyons and lost the remote, SOX PRIDE: THE STORY OF THE 2005 WHITE SOX (narrated by Hawk Harrelson) started and for some reason I made myself watch like 30 minutes of it and they spend at least 5-10 minutes of their world series documentary bragging about taking 2 of 3 games at Wrigley from a 79 win Cubs team. I don't know what is more sad, that they felt the need to put AND DEY BEAT DA CUBZ in their world series film, or that they really didn't, considering the Cubs took 2/3 at Comiskular later in the year to tie the season series at 3-3. I can say I've watched like 3-4 different documentaries or shows about the Cubs winning the World Series and the White Sox are never even mentioned.
You wrote a post mentioning both Steve Garvey and Hawk Harrelson.
I'm gonna punch you so hard.
Sorry, SKO. Those are the rules.
I mean as a Cubs fan who largely associates with older Cubs fans I felt cheated of my 1984 Scars when we would all play our favorite game of Who's More Grizzled, so if Flannj wants to punch me in the face because he's mad about Steve Garvey I feel like that would count as 84-related trauma.
No, just the shoulder because I like you.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 21, 2018, 03:00:24 PM
Even when he was a Dodger, I always wanted to grab Steve Garvey by the neck and force him to go bobbing for french fries.
He's absolutely a fist magnet.
Quote from: Bort on February 22, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 21, 2018, 03:00:24 PM
Even when he was a Dodger, I always wanted to grab Steve Garvey by the neck and force him to go bobbing for french fries.
He's absolutely a fist magnet.
Right, Apex (http://desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5424.msg110373#msg110373)?
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on February 22, 2018, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 22, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 21, 2018, 03:00:24 PM
Even when he was a Dodger, I always wanted to grab Steve Garvey by the neck and force him to go bobbing for french fries.
He's absolutely a fist magnet.
Right, Apex (http://desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5424.msg110373#msg110373)?
oh my god that's amazing. So many Classic Desipio
TM moments came from that 06-07 time period it feels like.
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2018, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on February 22, 2018, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 22, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 21, 2018, 03:00:24 PM
Even when he was a Dodger, I always wanted to grab Steve Garvey by the neck and force him to go bobbing for french fries.
He's absolutely a fist magnet.
Right, Apex (http://desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5424.msg110373#msg110373)?
oh my god that's amazing. So many Classic DesipioTM moments came from that 06-07 time period it feels like.
I read that thread from start to finish, and goddamn, we're a bunch of fucking idiots.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on March 02, 2018, 09:35:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2018, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on February 22, 2018, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 22, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 21, 2018, 03:00:24 PM
Even when he was a Dodger, I always wanted to grab Steve Garvey by the neck and force him to go bobbing for french fries.
He's absolutely a fist magnet.
Right, Apex (http://desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5424.msg110373#msg110373)?
oh my god that's amazing. So many Classic DesipioTM moments came from that 06-07 time period it feels like.
I read that thread from start to finish, and goddamn, we're a bunch of fucking idiots.
I can't believe it's been over a decade.
I've been to Wrigley over 300 times in my life and can honestly say that this would be in the Top 5.
White Sox Legend Albert Belle (https://sports.yahoo.com/former-star-albert-belle-arrested-indecent-exposure-dui-extreme-dui-044455110.html).
bump/DPD
Eloy isn't happy (https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/08/30/white-sox-prospect-eloy-jimenez-likely-to-file-a-service-time-manipulation-grievance/) with Sox management. Bryant's went nowhere, so there's likely nothing to swee here.
bump/TPD
Man, it's a good thing the Sox went out and signed all those guys who are close to Machado.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 19, 2019, 01:31:19 PM
bump/TPD
Man, it's a good thing the Sox went out and signed all those guys who are close to Machado.
They were signed for one reason and one reason only: Rick Hahn wanted them to introduce him to Manny during a spring training game. Mission. Accomplished.
The Sox just signed Eloy for 6 years, $43 million. So basically, if he's able to post a WAR over 1 each year, the Sox get over like fat rats.