Because no one cares about the last game of preseason.
Just because there's now an opportunity to link this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqxnm6t3QMw
Also, go Bears.
Da Beearz.
Green Bay Sucks.
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Quote from: Eli on September 03, 2009, 11:23:49 AM
Just because there's now an opportunity to link this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqxnm6t3QMw
Also, go Bears.
This isn't really intended for humans. I guess it's more for the Fox robot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoi1MSGu64
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Honestly I wouldn't mind setting up the schedule like 2006 every year. Open with Green Bay and close with Green Bay. To bookend the season with a sweep of the cheeseheads would be beautiful.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 03, 2009, 11:38:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 03, 2009, 11:23:49 AM
Just because there's now an opportunity to link this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqxnm6t3QMw
Also, go Bears.
This isn't really intended for humans. I guess it's more for the Fox robot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoi1MSGu64
I hope Erin Andrews is back for some football. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmDTSQtK20c)
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 03, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
They'll beat Pittsburgh.
Up yours, PenFoe.
Quote from: MAD on September 03, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 03, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
They'll beat Pittsburgh.
Up yours, PenFoe.
Not unless they penetrate, they won't. The Stillers' passing will be too much if Roethlisberger gets his usual time.
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2009, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 03, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 03, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
They'll beat Pittsburgh.
Up yours, PenFoe.
Not unless they penetrate, they won't. The Stillers' passing will be too much if Roethlisberger gets his usual time.
I assume by "usual time" you mean not very much time at all?
The Steelers passing game isn't predicated on Ben having a lot of time in the pocket, it's successful when he's out of the pocket making plays.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 03, 2009, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2009, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 03, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 03, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
They'll beat Pittsburgh.
Up yours, PenFoe.
Not unless they penetrate, they won't. The Stillers' passing will be too much if Roethlisberger gets his usual time.
I assume by "usual time" you mean not very much time at all?
The Steelers passing game isn't predicated on Ben having a lot of time in the pocket, it's successful when he's out of the pocket making plays.
There's still a good 4 seconds between snap and release. That could be an eternity with the Bears' DBs.
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2009, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 03, 2009, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2009, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 03, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 03, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
They'll beat Pittsburgh.
Up yours, PenFoe.
Not unless they penetrate, they won't. The Stillers' passing will be too much if Roethlisberger gets his usual time.
I assume by "usual time" you mean not very much time at all?
The Steelers passing game isn't predicated on Ben having a lot of time in the pocket, it's successful when he's out of the pocket making plays.
There's still a good 4 seconds between snap and release. That could be an eternity with the Bears' DBs.
The 17th ranked Steelers passing attack allowed the 4th most sacks in the NFL last year and have made no improvements to the Offensive Line.
When the Steelers beat the Bears, it's not going to be because of the protection.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 03, 2009, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2009, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 03, 2009, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2009, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 03, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 03, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
They'll beat Pittsburgh.
Up yours, PenFoe.
Not unless they penetrate, they won't. The Stillers' passing will be too much if Roethlisberger gets his usual time.
I assume by "usual time" you mean not very much time at all?
The Steelers passing game isn't predicated on Ben having a lot of time in the pocket, it's successful when he's out of the pocket making plays.
There's still a good 4 seconds between snap and release. That could be an eternity with the Bears' DBs.
The 17th ranked Steelers passing attack allowed the 4th most sacks in the NFL last year and have made no improvements to the Offensive Line.
When the Steelers beat the Bears, it's not going to be because of the protection.
TAKE YOUR STATISTICS AND LOGIC TO THE BASEBALL THREADS, PLEASE.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 03, 2009, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 03, 2009, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2009, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 03, 2009, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2009, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 03, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 03, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
They'll beat Pittsburgh.
Up yours, PenFoe.
Not unless they penetrate, they won't. The Stillers' passing will be too much if Roethlisberger gets his usual time.
I assume by "usual time" you mean not very much time at all?
The Steelers passing game isn't predicated on Ben having a lot of time in the pocket, it's successful when he's out of the pocket making plays.
There's still a good 4 seconds between snap and release. That could be an eternity with the Bears' DBs.
The 17th ranked Steelers passing attack allowed the 4th most sacks in the NFL last year and have made no improvements to the Offensive Line.
When the Steelers beat the Bears, it's not going to be because of the protection.
TAKE YOUR STATISTICS AND LOGIC TO THE BASEBALL THREADS, PLEASE.
Why? He doesn't use them there.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 03, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 03, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 03, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
Green Bay Sucks.
You hate to put too much emphasis on the first game of the season, but beating those pud-whacks at home would make for a damn good start.
Well, seeing as the defending Super Bowl champs are the second game of the season, and there's that annoying graphic that always gets shown for 0-2 teams (the Giants were the only team ever to start 0-2 and win the Super Bowl, right?), I'd say week 1 is a bit more important than usual.
But Andy says we'll win both, and I'm good with that.
What's this about Pittsburgh now?
From today's Trib:
Even with Saturday's final cuts looming, linebacker Lance Briggs revealed where the Bears' focus already has shifted. During a sideline TV interview, Briggs was asked what came to mind first when he heard the word "Packers."
"Suck," Briggs said.
The Sept. 13 opener can't arrive soon enough for everybody.
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
From today's Trib:
Even with Saturday's final cuts looming, linebacker Lance Briggs revealed where the Bears' focus already has shifted. During a sideline TV interview, Briggs was asked what came to mind first when he heard the word "Packers."
"Suck," Briggs said.
The Sept. 13 opener can't arrive soon enough for everybody.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_16vDP-j-yNc/SJpdyMd3SyI/AAAAAAAAAmg/X6XKE_AM1gM/s400/Cheering+crowd+2.jpg)
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
From today's Trib:
Even with Saturday's final cuts looming, linebacker Lance Briggs revealed where the Bears' focus already has shifted. During a sideline TV interview, Briggs was asked what came to mind first when he heard the word "Packers."
"Suck," Briggs said.
The Sept. 13 opener can't arrive soon enough for everybody.
That was great.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 04, 2009, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: Dave B on September 04, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
From today's Trib:
Even with Saturday's final cuts looming, linebacker Lance Briggs revealed where the Bears' focus already has shifted. During a sideline TV interview, Briggs was asked what came to mind first when he heard the word "Packers."
"Suck," Briggs said.
The Sept. 13 opener can't arrive soon enough for everybody.
That was great.
Totally burned 'em.
Bears RB Kevin Jones is out for the season with a torn ligament in his left ankle. (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Source-says-Chicago-RB-Jones-is-out-for-season.html)
Quote from: PenFoe on September 04, 2009, 03:24:15 PM
Bears RB Kevin Jones is out for the season with a torn ligament in his left ankle. (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Source-says-Chicago-RB-Jones-is-out-for-season.html)
Thank God for Whoopi and Black Oleg?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 04, 2009, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 04, 2009, 03:24:15 PM
Bears RB Kevin Jones is out for the season with a torn ligament in his left ankle. (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Source-says-Chicago-RB-Jones-is-out-for-season.html)
Thank God for Whoopi and Black Oleg?
Looks like more runs into the pile for Black Oleg.
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
The only surprises are cutting Basanez (because it makes TOO much sense), and keeping Lance Louis over Dan Buenning. Tillman says he's 50-50 for Sunday, which is a terrifying thought, because McBride is listed as the starter in his place. I'd be more willing to run Vasher out there. The injury to Jones sucks big time, since he was probably going to get at least 100 carries this year. I'm wondering if they're looking to pick up another runningback. Oakland has three quality guys, and I'm sure Al Davis could be swindled out of Justin Fargas or Michael Bush for a mannequin wearing a Ken Stabler jersey.
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
The only surprises are cutting Basanez (because it makes TOO much sense), and keeping Lance Louis over Dan Buenning. Tillman says he's 50-50 for Sunday, which is a terrifying thought, because McBride is listed as the starter in his place. I'd be more willing to run Vasher out there. The injury to Jones sucks big time, since he was probably going to get at least 100 carries this year. I'm wondering if they're looking to pick up another runningback. Oakland has three quality guys, and I'm sure Al Davis could be swindled out of Justin Fargas or Michael Bush for a mannequin wearing a Ken Stabler jersey.
I'm not worried, the Bears have a big play threat at RB ready to break loose.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=319572 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=319572)
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
The only surprises are cutting Basanez (because it makes TOO much sense), and keeping Lance Louis over Dan Buenning. Tillman says he's 50-50 for Sunday, which is a terrifying thought, because McBride is listed as the starter in his place. I'd be more willing to run Vasher out there. The injury to Jones sucks big time, since he was probably going to get at least 100 carries this year. I'm wondering if they're looking to pick up another runningback. Oakland has three quality guys, and I'm sure Al Davis could be swindled out of Justin Fargas or Michael Bush for a mannequin wearing a Ken Stabler jersey.
I know it's a divisional game and the Packers tend to get everyone's meatball up, but if P'Nut's only 50/50, I'd prefer he sit this one out, and come back when he's a little more complete, the Tru McBride Abortion be damned.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 08, 2009, 10:25:12 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
The only surprises are cutting Basanez (because it makes TOO much sense), and keeping Lance Louis over Dan Buenning. Tillman says he's 50-50 for Sunday, which is a terrifying thought, because McBride is listed as the starter in his place. I'd be more willing to run Vasher out there. The injury to Jones sucks big time, since he was probably going to get at least 100 carries this year. I'm wondering if they're looking to pick up another runningback. Oakland has three quality guys, and I'm sure Al Davis could be swindled out of Justin Fargas or Michael Bush for a mannequin wearing a Ken Stabler jersey.
I'm not worried, the Bears have a big play threat at RB ready to break loose.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=319572 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=319572)
Considering it's a shitty player who went to NIU, I'm honestly shocked that Waco's link didn't lead to an article by NIU alum Barry Rozner.
Quote from: MAD on September 08, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
The only surprises are cutting Basanez (because it makes TOO much sense), and keeping Lance Louis over Dan Buenning. Tillman says he's 50-50 for Sunday, which is a terrifying thought, because McBride is listed as the starter in his place. I'd be more willing to run Vasher out there. The injury to Jones sucks big time, since he was probably going to get at least 100 carries this year. I'm wondering if they're looking to pick up another runningback. Oakland has three quality guys, and I'm sure Al Davis could be swindled out of Justin Fargas or Michael Bush for a mannequin wearing a Ken Stabler jersey.
I know it's a divisional game and the Packers tend to get everyone's meatball up, but if P'Nut's only 50/50, I'd prefer he sit this one out, and come back when he's a little more complete, the Tru McBride Abortion be damned.
A bad legged Zack Bowman is better than McBride at this point.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 08, 2009, 10:43:45 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 08, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
The only surprises are cutting Basanez (because it makes TOO much sense), and keeping Lance Louis over Dan Buenning. Tillman says he's 50-50 for Sunday, which is a terrifying thought, because McBride is listed as the starter in his place. I'd be more willing to run Vasher out there. The injury to Jones sucks big time, since he was probably going to get at least 100 carries this year. I'm wondering if they're looking to pick up another runningback. Oakland has three quality guys, and I'm sure Al Davis could be swindled out of Justin Fargas or Michael Bush for a mannequin wearing a Ken Stabler jersey.
I know it's a divisional game and the Packers tend to get everyone's meatball up, but if P'Nut's only 50/50, I'd prefer he sit this one out, and come back when he's a little more complete, the Tru McBride Abortion be damned.
A bad legged Zack Bowman is better than McBride at this point.
Bowman's healthy or they wouldn't have played him against Cleveland. If Tillman isn't ready to go it'll be Bowman and Vasher. I'll let you decide how you feel about that.
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 10:55:36 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 08, 2009, 10:43:45 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 08, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
The only surprises are cutting Basanez (because it makes TOO much sense), and keeping Lance Louis over Dan Buenning. Tillman says he's 50-50 for Sunday, which is a terrifying thought, because McBride is listed as the starter in his place. I'd be more willing to run Vasher out there. The injury to Jones sucks big time, since he was probably going to get at least 100 carries this year. I'm wondering if they're looking to pick up another runningback. Oakland has three quality guys, and I'm sure Al Davis could be swindled out of Justin Fargas or Michael Bush for a mannequin wearing a Ken Stabler jersey.
I know it's a divisional game and the Packers tend to get everyone's meatball up, but if P'Nut's only 50/50, I'd prefer he sit this one out, and come back when he's a little more complete, the Tru McBride Abortion be damned.
A bad legged Zack Bowman is better than McBride at this point.
Bowman's healthy or they wouldn't have played him against Cleveland. If Tillman isn't ready to go it'll be Bowman and Vasher. I'll let you decide how you feel about that.
I feel that whoever it is won't mean shit without a competent pass rush. If the line plays like it's 2006, they can stick SKO out there in the secondary and it'll be fine.
Why isn't anyone here or elsewhere talking about Corey Graham as starter in Tillman's absence? I thought he was almost pleasantly not shitty last year.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
Why isn't anyone here or elsewhere talking about Corey Graham as starter in Tillman's absence? I thought he was almost pleasantly not shitty last year.
Well?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 02:28:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
Why isn't anyone here or elsewhere talking about Corey Graham as starter in Tillman's absence? I thought he was almost pleasantly not shitty last year.
Well?
I know I can't stop talking about it.
Quote from: BH on September 08, 2009, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 02:28:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
Why isn't anyone here or elsewhere talking about Corey Graham as starter in Tillman's absence? I thought he was almost pleasantly not shitty last year.
Well?
I know I can't stop talking about it.
I think Lovie is setting the Pack up for a sneak attack by letting them gameplan and think, "Vasher and McBride LOLz!" only to come out in the first quarter and scream, "BOWMAN AND GRAHAM!?!?!? DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!"
That's what I think.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 02:41:06 PM
Quote from: BH on September 08, 2009, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 02:28:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
Why isn't anyone here or elsewhere talking about Corey Graham as starter in Tillman's absence? I thought he was almost pleasantly not shitty last year.
Well?
I know I can't stop talking about it.
I think Lovie is setting the Pack up for a sneak attack by letting them gameplan and think, "Vasher and McBride LOLz!" only to come out in the first quarter and scream, "BOWMAN AND GRAHAM!?!?!? DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!"
That's what I think.
Hasn't Graham been playing a lot of nickel back this preseason with Manning being injured? I agree that Graham was NotBad last season. He'll be on the field one way or another.
Quote from: Oleg on September 08, 2009, 01:09:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 10:55:36 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 08, 2009, 10:43:45 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 08, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2009, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
Would-be Bears legends Brett Basanez (practice squad) and Brandon Rideau got cut (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/chicago-bears-finalize-53-man-roster-removed-tillman-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list.html) today. Ditto Rod Hood.
Quote53-MAN ROSTER:
Quarterbacks (2): Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie.
Running backs (3): Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe.
Fullbacks (1): Jason McKie:
Wide receivers (6): Devin Aromashodu, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox.
Tight ends (4): Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, Michael Gaines, Greg Olsen.
Offensive linemen (8): Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, Chris Williams.
Defensive linemen (9): Anthony Adams, Mark Anderson, Alex Brown, Jarron Gilbert, Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrison, Israel Idonije, Adewale Ogunleye, Matt Toeaina.
Linebackers (6): Lance Briggs, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Brian Urlacher, Jamar Williams.
Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, D.J. Moore, Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher.
Safeties (5): Al Afalava, Josh Bullocks, Danieal Manning, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz.
Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Brad Maynard.
SATURDAY'S CUTS
Waived: G Johan Asiata, DE Ervin Baldwin, T Cody Balogh, QB Brett Basanez, CB Rudy Burgess, DE Joe Clermond, FB Jason Davis, LB Marcus Freeman, CB Marcus Hamilton, LB Kevin Malast, WR Eric Peterman, C Donovan Raiola, WR Brandon Rideau, LB Mike Rivera, FB Will Ta'ufo'ou, CB Woodny Turenne.
Reserve/Injured list:S Dahna Deleston, RB Kevin Jones, DE Henry Melton.
Terminated contract of vested veterans: G Dan Buenning, CB Rod Hood, LB Darrell McClover.
I'm shocked they're keeping that team killer Jake Utler.
The only surprises are cutting Basanez (because it makes TOO much sense), and keeping Lance Louis over Dan Buenning. Tillman says he's 50-50 for Sunday, which is a terrifying thought, because McBride is listed as the starter in his place. I'd be more willing to run Vasher out there. The injury to Jones sucks big time, since he was probably going to get at least 100 carries this year. I'm wondering if they're looking to pick up another runningback. Oakland has three quality guys, and I'm sure Al Davis could be swindled out of Justin Fargas or Michael Bush for a mannequin wearing a Ken Stabler jersey.
I know it's a divisional game and the Packers tend to get everyone's meatball up, but if P'Nut's only 50/50, I'd prefer he sit this one out, and come back when he's a little more complete, the Tru McBride Abortion be damned.
A bad legged Zack Bowman is better than McBride at this point.
Bowman's healthy or they wouldn't have played him against Cleveland. If Tillman isn't ready to go it'll be Bowman and Vasher. I'll let you decide how you feel about that.
I feel that whoever it is won't mean shit without a competent pass rush. If the line plays like it's 2006, they can stick SKO out there in the secondary and it'll be fine.
I play the fade really well.
Quote from: MAD on September 08, 2009, 10:35:05 AM
Considering it's a shitty player who went to NIU, I'm honestly shocked that Waco's link didn't lead to an article by NIU alum Barry Rozner.
Roz was filling in for Mulligan on the Score last Friday morning and was talking up Wolfe big time. According to Barry, you just need to get Wolfe into space and let him work his magic.
Personally, I'd rather shoot Rozner into space, but that's me.
Quote from: CT III on September 08, 2009, 09:01:50 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 08, 2009, 10:35:05 AM
Considering it's a shitty player who went to NIU, I'm honestly shocked that Waco's link didn't lead to an article by NIU alum Barry Rozner.
Roz was filling in for Mulligan on the Score last Friday morning and was talking up Wolfe big time. According to Barry, you just need to get Wolfe into space and let him work his magic.
Personally, I'd rather shoot Rozner into space, but that's me.
Just figure out a way to get a great big expanse of empty field between him and paydirt? It's so fucking simple a caveman could do it.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2009, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 08, 2009, 09:01:50 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 08, 2009, 10:35:05 AM
Considering it's a shitty player who went to NIU, I'm honestly shocked that Waco's link didn't lead to an article by NIU alum Barry Rozner.
Roz was filling in for Mulligan on the Score last Friday morning and was talking up Wolfe big time. According to Barry, you just need to get Wolfe into space and let him work his magic.
Personally, I'd rather shoot Rozner into space, but that's me.
Just figure out a way to get a great big expanse of empty field between him and paydirt? It's so fucking simple a caveman could do it.
"Just give me
six inches sixty yards of daylight. That's all I need."
Sayers'd.
Hey guys, Tom Curran from NBC Sports has a helpful guide to five football players you've probably never heard of that might become NFL stars this season.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32611068/ns/sports-nfl/
Might be a little bit obscure for some, but it's a good read in preparation for the season.
Quote from: Eli on September 09, 2009, 03:29:14 PM
Hey guys, Tom Curran from NBC Sports has a helpful guide to five football players you've probably never heard of that might become NFL stars this season.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32611068/ns/sports-nfl/
Might be a little bit obscure for some, but it's a good read in preparation for the season.
Not just stars, but STARs.
QuoteFor instance, Carson Palmer ... star. Tony Romo ... STAR.
Three Pro Bowlers, Two offensive rookie of the years, all drafted within the first 7 picks of their draft. I want to make out with this concept.
Quote from: Ivy6 on September 09, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
Three Pro Bowlers, Two offensive rookie of the years, all drafted within the first 7 picks of their draft. I want to make out with this concept.
You laugh, but would you make out with any of them if you saw them in an airport?
Because Tom Curran says you wouldn't.
God I love football. Just saying.
especially this year
David Huh?: In the Wake of the News
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/towerticker/2009/09/david-haugh-joins-rick-morrissey-as-tribunes-in-the-wake-of-the-news-columnist.html
QuoteDavid Haugh today was named the 17th "In the Wake of the News" sports columnist in Chicago Tribune history, joining Rick Morrissey as current caretaker of a slot that dates back more than 100 years.
The story includes some glowing praise of Haugh's work and shit. I hate how they pass this off as some sort of treat for their readers who now get to read even more of Haugh's zingers and opinions which will now travel outside of the Bears beat. That slot beside Morrissey has been open for months. I just kind of figured that downsizing meant one fewer hack columnist and that was not at all a bad thing. But now it means Haugh is going to write unreadable horse shit along with Morrissey while undoubtably Vaughn McClure will cover the entire Bears beat solo. That means fewer Bears updates unless they're trying to make Vaughn to the work of two people as downsizing newspapers have been wont to do. That usually results in more useless information being pawned off as reportage while actual stories worth reading are given less attention due to increased workload. It's science.
It's why I hate newspapers in general now days and I couldn't be happier with my career choice of one year ago this week.
The Daily Comet loves you still, Apex.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 10, 2009, 08:10:58 AM
The Daily Comet loves you still, Apex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Ho_6C_fM4&NR=1
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Break down of the Bears offense, and its bonerific- http://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2009/walkthrough-chicago-six
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 08:26:56 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 10, 2009, 08:10:58 AM
The Daily Comet loves you still, Apex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Ho_6C_fM4&NR=1
Booo YouTube bieng blocked at work and the "Could not load movie" message on my YouTube app. Booooooooo.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 10, 2009, 09:39:34 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 08:26:56 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 10, 2009, 08:10:58 AM
The Daily Comet loves you still, Apex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Ho_6C_fM4&NR=1
Booo YouTube bieng blocked at work and the "Could not load movie" message on my YouTube app. Booooooooo.
You're totally missing out, IAN.
Set aside some time when you get home, and close the bedroom door.
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
I don't care for his jokes, but he doesn't provoke my ANGER like Morrissey does. I would hunt Morrissey for blood sport. I would place him on an island, and then I would drop in by helicopter on the other side, and I would stalk him until I found him, then I would slowly circle around him in the woods, causing him to snap his head and panic at each rustle. Only when he begged for death and apologized for his every word would I grant him the mercy of the reaper's icy hands.
Oh, and I like Brad Biggs.
Quote from: SKO on September 10, 2009, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
I don't care for his jokes, but he doesn't provoke my ANGER like Morrissey does. I would hunt Morrissey for blood sport. I would place him on an island, and then I would drop in by helicopter on the other side, and I would stalk him until I found him, then I would slowly circle around him in the woods, causing him to snap his head and panic at each rustle. Only when he begged for death and apologized for his every word would I grant him the mercy of the reaper's icy hands.
Oh, and I like Brad Biggs.
Oh, you just wait. The gloves are off. Haugh will have your posse in full regalia before Halloween.
Quote from: SKO on September 10, 2009, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
I don't care for his jokes, but he doesn't provoke my ANGER like Morrissey does. I would hunt Morrissey for blood sport. I would place him on an island, and then I would drop in by helicopter on the other side, and I would stalk him until I found him, then I would slowly circle around him in the woods, causing him to snap his head and panic at each rustle. Only when he begged for death and apologized for his every word would I grant him the mercy of the reaper's icy hands.
Oh, and I like Brad Biggs.
I like Brad Biggs too. He does the work of 5 regular men, while only being the size of 3.
Seriously though, when the Sun-Time ultimately collapses beneath the weight of its own FAIL, are all these guys going to work at The Score?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 10, 2009, 12:41:44 PM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 10, 2009, 09:39:34 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 08:26:56 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 10, 2009, 08:10:58 AM
The Daily Comet loves you still, Apex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Ho_6C_fM4&NR=1
Booo YouTube bieng blocked at work and the "Could not load movie" message on my YouTube app. Booooooooo.
You're totally missing out, IAN.
Set aside some time when you get home, and close the bedroom door.
I did, and it was awesome. I touched so many people.
Quote from: CT III on September 10, 2009, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 10, 2009, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
I don't care for his jokes, but he doesn't provoke my ANGER like Morrissey does. I would hunt Morrissey for blood sport. I would place him on an island, and then I would drop in by helicopter on the other side, and I would stalk him until I found him, then I would slowly circle around him in the woods, causing him to snap his head and panic at each rustle. Only when he begged for death and apologized for his every word would I grant him the mercy of the reaper's icy hands.
Oh, and I like Brad Biggs.
I like Brad Biggs too. He does the work of 5 regular men, while only being the size of 3.
Seriously though, when the Sun-Time ultimately collapses beneath the weight of its own FAIL, are all these guys going to work at The Score?
Nope. ChicagoNow.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 11, 2009, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 10, 2009, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 10, 2009, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
I don't care for his jokes, but he doesn't provoke my ANGER like Morrissey does. I would hunt Morrissey for blood sport. I would place him on an island, and then I would drop in by helicopter on the other side, and I would stalk him until I found him, then I would slowly circle around him in the woods, causing him to snap his head and panic at each rustle. Only when he begged for death and apologized for his every word would I grant him the mercy of the reaper's icy hands.
Oh, and I like Brad Biggs.
I like Brad Biggs too. He does the work of 5 regular men, while only being the size of 3.
Seriously though, when the Sun-Time ultimately collapses beneath the weight of its own FAIL, are all these guys going to work at The Score?
Nope. ChicagoNow.
True that. They'll take
anyone.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 11, 2009, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 10, 2009, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 10, 2009, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
I don't care for his jokes, but he doesn't provoke my ANGER like Morrissey does. I would hunt Morrissey for blood sport. I would place him on an island, and then I would drop in by helicopter on the other side, and I would stalk him until I found him, then I would slowly circle around him in the woods, causing him to snap his head and panic at each rustle. Only when he begged for death and apologized for his every word would I grant him the mercy of the reaper's icy hands.
Oh, and I like Brad Biggs.
I like Brad Biggs too. He does the work of 5 regular men, while only being the size of 3.
Seriously though, when the Sun-Time ultimately collapses beneath the weight of its own FAIL, are all these guys going to work at The Score?
Nope. ChicagoNow.
It looks like the Guild might not budge and make the concessions (http://www.suntimes.com/business/1764415,sun-times-union-concessions-091109.article) that would make the STNG attractive enough for James Tyree to buy (for less than what it cost Hendry to buy Milton Bradley, by the way). If he walks away, it will be an awesome win for the union as liquidation occurs and you see the last edition hit the street before the Bears' first bye week.
Quote from: Brownie on September 11, 2009, 10:36:43 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 11, 2009, 10:24:51 AM
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Quote from: SKO on September 10, 2009, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
I don't care for his jokes, but he doesn't provoke my ANGER like Morrissey does. I would hunt Morrissey for blood sport. I would place him on an island, and then I would drop in by helicopter on the other side, and I would stalk him until I found him, then I would slowly circle around him in the woods, causing him to snap his head and panic at each rustle. Only when he begged for death and apologized for his every word would I grant him the mercy of the reaper's icy hands.
Oh, and I like Brad Biggs.
I like Brad Biggs too. He does the work of 5 regular men, while only being the size of 3.
Seriously though, when the Sun-Time ultimately collapses beneath the weight of its own FAIL, are all these guys going to work at The Score?
Nope. ChicagoNow.
It looks like the Guild might not budge and make the concessions (http://www.suntimes.com/business/1764415,sun-times-union-concessions-091109.article) that would make the STNG attractive enough for James Tyree to buy (for less than what it cost Hendry to buy Milton Bradley, by the way). If he walks away, it will be an awesome win for the union as liquidation occurs and you see the last edition hit the street before the Bears' first bye week.
Yeah, those fuckin' bums. Unions. Who needs them?
Especially when you read the proposal:
QuoteDuring the past week, union employees had become aware of Sun-Times Media's request to continue 15 percent compensation cuts negotiated after the company's Chapter 11 filing in March.
The Sun-Times reported Wednesday night that the company wants to extend those cuts for three years regardless of when union contracts expire. Furlough days also would be eliminated, and retirement benefits scaled back.
But the proposed cuts outlined Thursday went even deeper. They would limit severance pay to four weeks, eliminate seniority, allow the company to move workers from location to location, and assign more union work to non-union workers, Thibeault said.
Why even have a union if the proposal would essentially tear the union apart? Those fucking rabblerousers; they should just take whatever the enlightened and beneficent management gives them.
Anything that eliminates seniority is doing great work--and most of the benefits described are probably insane relative to the strength of the business and the industry as a whole.
The benefits that a union can capture shouldn't be independent of the health of the business, but instead, they should be dependent on it. I'm in favor of businesses going to some model of modest benefits for all (whether it be CEO or entry-level employee) and then using profitability as the sole determining factor in doling out extra benefits on a year-to-year basis.
If you can't run a profitable company, you don't deserve bonuses. If your company isn't profitable, excessive union demands shouldn't make the bottom line worse.
But anymore unions--especially the auto and public sector ones--are awful entities that need to have a sledgehammer taken to them until what's left is weak and unrecognizable.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 11, 2009, 11:41:20 AM
But anymore unions--especially the auto and public sector ones--are awful entities that need to have a sledgehammer taken to them until what's left is weak and unrecognizable.
Is this in green font?
Quote from: BH on September 11, 2009, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 11, 2009, 11:41:20 AM
But anymore unions--especially the auto and public sector ones--are awful entities that need to have a sledgehammer taken to them until what's left is weak and unrecognizable.
Is this in green font?
I pray that it is, but know that it isn't.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 11, 2009, 11:41:20 AM
Anything that eliminates seniority is doing great work--
Says the guy in his twenties.
So no Troy Polamalu for three-to-six.
Huge?
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 11, 2009, 10:36:43 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 11, 2009, 10:24:51 AM
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Quote from: Internet Apex on September 10, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Reuschels_Jowls on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 10, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
Allow me to praise David Huh for a moment.
When it comes to sucking, nobody does it harder.
Eh. I don't mind Haugh. The way I see it, anything that means less Rick Morrissey is a positive development.
I don't think this means less Morrissey. If you like Haugh's jokes though, you might like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUEtlPYbgo
I don't care for his jokes, but he doesn't provoke my ANGER like Morrissey does. I would hunt Morrissey for blood sport. I would place him on an island, and then I would drop in by helicopter on the other side, and I would stalk him until I found him, then I would slowly circle around him in the woods, causing him to snap his head and panic at each rustle. Only when he begged for death and apologized for his every word would I grant him the mercy of the reaper's icy hands.
Oh, and I like Brad Biggs.
I like Brad Biggs too. He does the work of 5 regular men, while only being the size of 3.
Seriously though, when the Sun-Time ultimately collapses beneath the weight of its own FAIL, are all these guys going to work at The Score?
Nope. ChicagoNow.
It looks like the Guild might not budge and make the concessions (http://www.suntimes.com/business/1764415,sun-times-union-concessions-091109.article) that would make the STNG attractive enough for James Tyree to buy (for less than what it cost Hendry to buy Milton Bradley, by the way). If he walks away, it will be an awesome win for the union as liquidation occurs and you see the last edition hit the street before the Bears' first bye week.
Yeah, those fuckin' bums. Unions. Who needs them?
Especially when you read the proposal:
QuoteDuring the past week, union employees had become aware of Sun-Times Media's request to continue 15 percent compensation cuts negotiated after the company's Chapter 11 filing in March.
The Sun-Times reported Wednesday night that the company wants to extend those cuts for three years regardless of when union contracts expire. Furlough days also would be eliminated, and retirement benefits scaled back.
But the proposed cuts outlined Thursday went even deeper. They would limit severance pay to four weeks, eliminate seniority, allow the company to move workers from location to location, and assign more union work to non-union workers, Thibeault said.
Why even have a union if the proposal would essentially tear the union apart? Those fucking rabblerousers; they should just take whatever the enlightened and beneficent management gives them.
Well James Tyree can walk away and the Sun-Times' CEO can promise them 1,000 percent pay increases and $500,000 bonuses for every time someone says a novena for the Guild effective Nov. 1, and the union can collect checks from an empty treasury. Yay?
And mostly what CFiHP said. I was actually a member of the Guild. The work rules they instituted did not befit the actual duties of a journalist. So... we all had to basically fill in our "37 1/2 hour" time cards for work when we did significantly more than that and when we did significantly less than that. When layoffs came, they lopped from the bottom. Performance was never a factor in pay, in who got to keep their job, etc. You basically knew that if you just showed up every day and half-assed it, you'd get the same bonus as you would if you actually cared about the job.
But anyway, James Tyree is risking $25MM of his own money to buy the Sun-Times. Plenty of people wouldn't risk crossing the street to own the Sun-Times. Then again, Tyree could start his own Chicago general-news publication for about that much in late October when the Sun-Times ceases to be. I know journalists are hot commodities these days. You can't find an out-of-work writer for anything!
Quote from: Brownie on September 11, 2009, 12:37:54 PM
You can't find an out-of-work writer for anything!
Mike & Mark Kiley, October 5th PUCKCAST, Ogdens.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 11, 2009, 11:41:20 AM
The benefits that a union can capture shouldn't be independent of the health of the business, but instead, they should be dependent on it. I'm in favor of businesses going to some model of modest benefits for all (whether it be CEO or entry-level employee) and then using profitability as the sole determining factor in doling out extra benefits on a year-to-year basis.
If you can't run a profitable company, you don't deserve bonuses. If your company isn't profitable, excessive union demands shouldn't make the bottom line worse.
I hate to comment on this kinds of stuff in a Bears thread, but I caved and
here we are...
You need to factor in a lot more than profitability, as it would result in the same
crazy that stock option compensation to CEOs (and such) have caused over the
last decade. There's a lot of ways to create shorter term profitability (and related
stock price increases) at significant costs to long term company health. A very
basic example is not investing in R&D and future project ramp up to artificially
push down costs and reaping the rewards of the money invested in past projects.
While I agree ultimately you need a system where employees are motivated to
contribute to the overall health of the company, I think it's more about a culture
of shared work, risks, and rewards. I also think the same about countries, so I'm
probably a crazy hippy so feel free to disagree without a need to respond.
To bring it back to sports, some strained metaphor to the Cub's farm system, or
lack there of.
Quote from: Pre on September 11, 2009, 03:10:07 PM
I hate to comment on this kinds of stuff in a Bears thread, but I caved and
here we are...
This thread is unique in that it got a little off track.
No. No battles over trade unions. Football is pure. Keep politics out of it, damnit. No more. The line must be drawn hyah! This far, no further! And I will make you Pay for what you have done!
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2009, 03:32:50 PM
No. No battles over trade unions. Football is pure. Keep politics out of it, damnit. No more. The line must be drawn hyah! This far, no further! And I will make you Pay for what you have done!
Only
pure football is discussed at VRGITHOF.com.
Quote from: BH on September 11, 2009, 03:38:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2009, 03:32:50 PM
No. No battles over trade unions. Football is pure. Keep politics out of it, damnit. No more. The line must be drawn hyah! This far, no further! And I will make you Pay for what you have done!
Only pure football is discussed at VRGITHOF.com.
He beat out Dan Orlovsky for the Texans #2 spot. Matt Schaub is brittle. Be ready to get Wally Pipp'd, Mr. Schaub. We're back on the road to Canton, baby.
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2009, 03:32:50 PM
No. No battles over trade unions. Football is pure. Keep politics out of it, damnit. No more. The line must be drawn hyah! This far, no further! And I will make you Pay for what you have done!
I can't wait for the uncapped season and subsequent works stoppage.
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2009, 03:32:50 PM
No. No battles over trade unions. Football is pure. Keep politics out of it, damnit. No more. The line must be drawn hyah! This far, no further! And I will make you [the Borg] Pay for what you have done!
Excellent Star Trek: First Contact reference there. Don't think I didn't notice, the Trek nerd that I am.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2009, 03:32:50 PM
No. No battles over trade unions. Football is pure. Keep politics out of it, damnit. No more. The line must be drawn hyah! This far, no further! And I will make you [the Borg] Pay for what you have done!
Excellent Star Trek: First Contact reference there. Don't think I didn't notice, the Trek nerd that I am.
That was coincidental. You nerd. Even the Patrick Stewartesque "hyah!" for here. All coincidences. NERD!
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2009, 07:08:58 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 11, 2009, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 11, 2009, 03:32:50 PM
No. No battles over trade unions. Football is pure. Keep politics out of it, damnit. No more. The line must be drawn hyah! This far, no further! And I will make you [the Borg] Pay for what you have done!
Excellent Star Trek: First Contact reference there. Don't think I didn't notice, the Trek nerd that I am.
That was coincidental. You nerd. Even the Patrick Stewartesque "hyah!" for here. All coincidences. NERD!
Sure, whatever, TREKNHERDPHAG!!!
Bump.
Tillman and Vashar to start tonight.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/cornerback-charles-tillman.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/cornerback-charles-tillman.html)
Quote from: CT III on September 13, 2009, 06:37:07 PM
Bump.
Tillman and Vashar to start tonight.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/cornerback-charles-tillman.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/cornerback-charles-tillman.html)
And Vasher? Not Bowman? Odd. That was where the wind seemed to be blowing all offseason.
Three and out? You never get a second chance to make a first impression!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2009, 06:41:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 13, 2009, 06:37:07 PM
Bump.
Tillman and Vashar to start tonight.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/cornerback-charles-tillman.html (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/cornerback-charles-tillman.html)
And Vasher? Not Bowman? Odd. That was where the wind seemed to be blowing all offseason.
Sounds like they'll run a 3 man rotation so as to get Tillman some rest.
Well, with all those passes hitting Packer hands, it was a matter of time.
That screenshot of the different #4 jerseys made my ANGER ANGRY at my ANGER, and aaron miles.
Ugh.
Uh, what the fuck is he doing?
This is a little disappointing so far.
Quote from: Joe on September 13, 2009, 08:39:34 PM
Uh, what the fuck is he doing?
Who? Desmond Clark? Jonny Knox? Desmond Clark?
These are the two best QBs in the NFC North?
Re. Lax.
That was the worst offensive half we'll see this season. They're down by 8. Bear. Down.
Getting Jake just a little protection would help.
Bad protection, bad route running from the receivers, and Ron Turner. Guh.
DPD.
Hey Ron Turner Matt Forte is on the roster.
Over-under on the number of Packers the Bears offensive line will block tonight: 0.5
And I'm taking the under.
Good grief.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 13, 2009, 09:08:37 PM
Bad protection, bad route running from the receivers, and Ron Turner. Guh.
It almost looks like these guys didn't play any preseason games.
Quote from: BC on September 13, 2009, 09:11:08 PM
Over-under on the number of Packers the Bears offensive line will block tonight: 0.5
And I'm taking the under.
Good grief.
Dude, you are Charlie Brown. Does that make me Linus? Fuck.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 13, 2009, 09:10:09 PM
DPD.
Hey Ron Turner Matt Forte is on the roster.
Intrepid Reader: Ron TurnerNever heard of him.
Good news! Cutler will get the ball in the 2nd half. That's good news. Because if that interview with Leno went any longer, I would have broken my TV.
Quote from: Brownie on September 13, 2009, 09:14:14 PM
Good news! Cutler will get the ball in the 2nd half. That's good news. Because if that interview with Leno went any longer, I would have broken my TV.
I'm glad he's sick of the promos too.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 13, 2009, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 13, 2009, 09:14:14 PM
Good news! Cutler will get the ball in the 2nd half. That's good news. Because if that interview with Leno went any longer, I would have broken my TV.
I'm glad he's sick of the promos too.
I had the MUTE button on full blast. Costas + Leno = PAIN
Fuck that line judge for that spot. Absolutely terrible.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 13, 2009, 09:22:53 PM
Fuck that line judge for that spot. Absolutely terrible.
Yeah, he fucked 'em good on that one. Should have been a first down by at least half a ball length.
Wow this thread sucks an oozing herpes lesion.
Touchdown Bears. Fuck yourselves, ledge jumpers.
That's more like it.
JAKE UTLER SPLOOOOOGE
Anyone want to comment on the rejuvenation of Adewale?
No?
Rather complain?
Quote from: Slak on September 13, 2009, 09:32:34 PM
Anyone want to comment on the rejuvenation of Adewale?
No?
Rather complain?
Contract year.
Keith Olbermann so nicely reminded us that Orton got a win. Nervermind that Orton was a big steaming pile of mile-high feces that would probably have ruined the odor in Cincinnati. He throws a shit pass that should have been picked off and it falls out of heaven into Stokely's hands. So yeah, Olbermann, Kyle Orton got a win. And you and Joe Morgan and Joe Tiller can drink to that.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 13, 2009, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: Slak on September 13, 2009, 09:32:34 PM
Anyone want to comment on the rejuvenation of Adewale?
No?
Rather complain?
Contract year.
Who gives a fuck why? This Marinara fella has rejuvinated the pass rush.
Urlacher is out for the game. DOOOOM.
Quote from: Brownie on September 13, 2009, 09:39:06 PM
Keith Olbermann so nicely reminded us that Orton got a win. Nervermind that Orton was a big steaming pile of mile-high feces that would probably have ruined the odor in Cincinnati. He throws a shit pass that should have been picked off and it falls out of heaven into Stokely's hands. So yeah, Olbermann, Kyle Orton got a win. And you and Joe Morgan and Joe Tiller can drink to that.
Somebody needs to tell Bronco fans that their boys only get to play Cincinnati once this year. They can now look forward to 15 weeks of Kyle Orton sucking at a high rate of speed against real NFL teams.
Robbie Gould is the only good thing that I can say about Penn State.
What that fuck? "It looked like a hold, but it wasn't" WTF is that shit?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 13, 2009, 09:46:57 PM
Robbie Gould is the only good thing that I can say about Penn State.
It's not in Pittsburgh. There's two good things about Penn State.
Quote from: Slak on September 13, 2009, 09:41:25 PM
Urlacher is out for the game. DOOOOM.
[Internet Chuck]Hardly.[/Internet Chuck]
When did Ronny Cedeno start playing WR? That play could prove to be beyond costly.
And really? Fake punt at that point on the field?
The "who's the most retarded person in the Bears organization" discussion tomorrow should be entertaining as fuck. Guh.
Green Bay had 12 guys on the field? Lovie thinks they did.
Unless of course there were 12 men on the field. Then it was brilliant. Ah, never mind.
Replay indicated that Garrett Wolfe, when informed of the playcall, let his jaw hit the turf.
Wow was that whole sequence was just plain stupid.
The last five minutes make a Ronny Cedeno blooper reel look like sheer genius.
If the longer snapper loses this game I hope they release him. Oh and Cutler don't throw into quadruple coverage.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 13, 2009, 10:10:35 PM
The last five minutes make a Ronny Cedeno blooper reel look like sheer genius.
We get it. You like to make Ronny Cedeno references.
Why can't you be a Steelers fan?
If the Bears could somehow win this shitfest.
Impressive that the Bears secondary went this long without being exposed.
Of course, if they only could've gone a minute longer...
Nathan Vasher. Ugh.
The Bears DO have 71 seconds.
The referee wants to look at the touchdown pass again because he can't believe Jennings was wide ass open.
I thought "Lotto" wore 18?
A fitting ending for tonight's abortion of a football game.
This offense has 6 days to get a ton better before playing a football team that is...actually...good.
Christ, that was like watching Kevin Gregg close a tight game.
Vasher sucks. This receiving core sucks.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
I thought "Lotto" wore 18?
That's Pick 6, dumbass.
Collinsworth keeps calling out the receivers so much, you'd have thought he was a QB and not a receiver himself.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 13, 2009, 10:44:51 PM
A fitting ending for tonight's abortion of a football game.
This offense has 6 days to get a ton better before playing a football team that is...actually...good.
I think it's naive of me to think that your internet persona will ever survive long enough to acquire some perspective, but...a "ton" better?
Go stick your finger in your butthole for a while.
Quote from: MAD on September 13, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
I thought "Lotto" wore 18?
That's Pick 6, dumbass.
Collinsworth keeps calling out the receivers so much, you'd have thought he was a QB and not a receiver himself.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 13, 2009, 10:44:51 PM
A fitting ending for tonight's abortion of a football game.
This offense has 6 days to get a ton better before playing a football team that is...actually...good.
I think it's naive of me to think that your internet persona will ever survive long enough to acquire some perspective, but...a "ton" better?
Go stick your finger in your butthole for a while.
You're forgetting about Greg "One of the Best In the Game" Jennings.
Quote from: MAD on September 13, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
I thought "Lotto" wore 18?
That's Pick 6, dumbass.
Collinsworth keeps calling out the receivers so much, you'd have thought he was a QB and not a receiver himself.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 13, 2009, 10:44:51 PM
A fitting ending for tonight's abortion of a football game.
This offense has 6 days to get a ton better before playing a football team that is...actually...good.
I think it's naive of me to think that your internet persona will ever survive long enough to acquire some perspective, but...a "ton" better?
Go stick your finger in your butthole for a while.
I'd say going from 4 picks to 0 and establishing a consistent running game--from where this team was at tonight--is a "ton" better.
To say anything less would be to sugar-coat it. But that's the perspective of objectivity.
Lovie's presser should be fun to watch.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 13, 2009, 10:48:32 PM
You're forgetting about Greg "One of the Best In the Game" Jennings.
I don't think that statement is all that inaccurate.
Quote from: Eli on September 13, 2009, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 13, 2009, 10:48:32 PM
You're forgetting about Greg "One of the Best In the Game" Jennings.
I don't think that statement is all that inaccurate.
Take it up with Collinsworth, who said those very words about 10 times.
It would help if the offensive line would decide to block anyone in the first half of a football game.
It would also help if Jay Cutler would stop making mistakes that Pop Warner QB's don't make.
Quote from: MAD on September 13, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
I thought "Lotto" wore 18?
That's Pick 6, dumbass.
Chill out, Mike.
http://www.seattlepi.com/archives/1987/8702040757.asp
QuoteAfter throwing four picks Monday night, his teammates started calling Tomczak "Lotto" because the Illinois state lottery features a game called Pick Four.
Dislocated wrist for Urlacher.
Quote from: fiveouts on September 13, 2009, 11:09:07 PM
Dislocated wrist for Urlacher.
Doesn't that usually mean out for the season?
Quote from: Slak on September 13, 2009, 11:12:04 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on September 13, 2009, 11:09:07 PM
Dislocated wrist for Urlacher.
Doesn't that usually mean out for the season?
More likely he couldn't find a skank.
Quote from: Slak on September 13, 2009, 11:12:04 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on September 13, 2009, 11:09:07 PM
Dislocated wrist for Urlacher.
Doesn't that usually mean out for the season?
Not always, but it's a bad injury:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4418731
Quote from: fiveouts on September 13, 2009, 11:09:07 PM
Dislocated wrist for Urlacher.
Fork, how long did it take you to recover from this injury? I dislocated mine once too (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6401.135).
Quote from: Eli on September 13, 2009, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: Slak on September 13, 2009, 11:12:04 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on September 13, 2009, 11:09:07 PM
Dislocated wrist for Urlacher.
Doesn't that usually mean out for the season?
Not always, but it's a bad injury:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4418731
I googled dislocated wrist and saw the exact same story. So I assume he's done. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this whole thing plays out.
So who's ready for hockey!?
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 13, 2009, 09:08:37 PM
Bad protection, bad route running from the receivers, and Ron Turner. Guh.
This quotes is from 5 pages ago.
Still the most accurate thing written here all night.
Yeah, Utler sucked.
A lot of this game sucked. But he's hardly the biggest worry for this team.
That fake punt was the worst idea since nuts and gum.
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QuoteI'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are
Quote from: Fork on September 13, 2009, 11:32:13 PM
That fake punt was the worst idea since nuts and gum.
I'm sure that even Ron Zook thought that was a terrible idea.
Quote from: BC on September 13, 2009, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 13, 2009, 11:32:13 PM
That fake punt was the worst idea since nuts and gum.
I'm sure that even Ron Zook thought that was a terrible idea.
What? Oh, because Ron Zook is the coach of your underachieving team. Ah yes, there's the connection.
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on September 14, 2009, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: BC on September 13, 2009, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 13, 2009, 11:32:13 PM
That fake punt was the worst idea since nuts and gum.
I'm sure that even Ron Zook thought that was a terrible idea.
What? Oh, because Ron Zook is the coach of your underachieving team. Ah yes, there's the connection.
I want to get this post pregnant.
I drank away my sorrows. I win
Surgery for Urlacher:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-14-bears-bits-chicago-sep14,0,5460486.story
It looks like the fainting couches have been moved out of the thread, so on to the actual game:
- Is there a particular reason why Des Clark and Johnny Knox were continually quitting on their routes? Yes, Cutler was godawful in the first half, but he got absolutely no help from those boners. And if Knox is supposed to be FAST AS LIGHTNING, why did he get caught from behind on that deep ball?
- Either I'm a bad football fan for not knowing that Cullen Jenkins is a holy terror on the defensive line, or Frank Omiyale is much worse than I thought.
- Great game for the Prince, but did Tommie Harris make any plays last night? Not that I noticed.
- I guess it's time to find out if Jamar Williams is the man-beast that we're always told about during training camp. They got away with it for a half, but if they try to play this defense with an MLB as unathletic as Hillenmeyer, we've got problems.
- Why in the name of Huey's PANKhelmet was the bloated carcass of Nate Vasher covering one of the best receivers in football in the 4th quarter? Not as bad of a mismatch as Chris Thompson vs. Steve Smith but it's damn near close.
That game sucked mangina but I'm leaving my DOOMjorts in the drawer for now.
If Urlacher misses significant time, I'm putting on my DoomJorts and unbuttoning them so my DOOMfrontbutt can breathe. They've never played well with him out and they never will.
Quote from: R-V on September 14, 2009, 07:55:59 AM
It looks like the fainting couches have been moved out of the thread, so on to the actual game:
- Is there a particular reason why Des Clark and Johnny Knox were continually quitting on their routes? Yes, Cutler was godawful in the first half, but he got absolutely no help from those boners. And if Knox is supposed to be FAST AS LIGHTNING, why did he get caught from behind on that deep ball?
- Either I'm a bad football fan for not knowing that Cullen Jenkins is a holy terror on the defensive line, or Frank Omiyale is much worse than I thought.
- Great game for the Prince, but did Tommie Harris make any plays last night? Not that I noticed.
- I guess it's time to find out if Jamar Williams is the man-beast that we're always told about during training camp. They got away with it for a half, but if they try to play this defense with an MLB as unathletic as Hillenmeyer, we've got problems.
- Why in the name of Huey's PANKhelmet was the bloated carcass of Nate Vasher covering one of the best receivers in football in the 4th quarter? Not as bad of a mismatch as Chris Thompson vs. Steve Smith but it's damn near close.
That game sucked mangina but I'm leaving my DOOMjorts in the drawer for now.
I think the receivers were quitting on routes, Clark especially, because they're not used to having a QB who moves around to keep plays alive. In the past once the QB was under pressure the play was essentially over.
Knox is still learning route running.
Cullen Jenkins is a pretty good lineman.
I would like to see Jamar Williams out there as well.
Ultimately, even with the mostly shitty play the Bears had a chance to win that game.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 14, 2009, 08:09:21 AM
If Urlacher misses significant time, I'm putting on my DoomJorts and unbuttoning them so my DOOMfrontbutt can breathe. They've never played well with him out and they never will.
footballoutsiders.com is saying 4-6 weeks for Urlacher. And, everytime I read "frontbutt" I laugh so hard, I pee a little.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2009, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 13, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
I thought "Lotto" wore 18?
That's Pick 6, dumbass.
Chill out, Mike.
http://www.seattlepi.com/archives/1987/8702040757.asp
QuoteAfter throwing four picks Monday night, his teammates started calling Tomczak "Lotto" because the Illinois state lottery features a game called Pick Four.
Ouch. My bad. Clearly, I was quite irritated last night.
And while what Apex was saying about Urlacher's absence was once true, you can't deal with such absolutes unless you're also prepared for the Herculean task of stopping time. Urlacher's 31 and not exactly coming off a stellar season. Any word on what'shisname? Mosy Tatupu? He looked like he was hurting.
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 08:32:09 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2009, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 13, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
I thought "Lotto" wore 18?
That's Pick 6, dumbass.
Chill out, Mike.
http://www.seattlepi.com/archives/1987/8702040757.asp
QuoteAfter throwing four picks Monday night, his teammates started calling Tomczak "Lotto" because the Illinois state lottery features a game called Pick Four.
Ouch. My bad. Clearly, I was quite irritated last night.
And while what Apex was saying about Urlacher's absence was once true, you can't deal with such absolutes unless you're also prepared for the Herculean task of stopping time. Urlacher's 31 and not exactly coming off a stellar season. Any word on what'shisname? Mosy Tatupu? He looked like he was hurting.
Sprained knee.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 08:18:04 AM
I think the receivers were quitting on routes, Clark especially, because they're not used to having a QB who moves around to keep plays alive. In the past once the QB was under pressure the play was essentially over.
Next year, the Bears should take their receivers and their quarterback and get in some practice time before the season starts. Maybe even go away from their main practice facility to someplace remote where they can only concentrate on football with less distractions. Maybe even take the O-Line for them to practice too. And bring the defensive players for the offense to practice against.
Mully and Hanley were suggesting the Bears sign the 36-year-old Derrick Brooks. Thoughts?
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 14, 2009, 09:21:39 AM
Mully and Hanley were suggesting the Bears sign the 36-year-old Derrick Brooks. Thoughts?
He knows the defense. So is a 36 year old Derrick Brooks better than Hillenmeyer? Yes?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 08:18:04 AM
I think the receivers were quitting on routes, Clark especially, because they're not used to having a QB who moves around to keep plays alive. In the past once the QB was under pressure the play was essentially over.
Next year, the Bears should take their receivers and their quarterback and get in some practice time before the season starts. Maybe even go away from their main practice facility to someplace remote where they can only concentrate on football with less distractions. Maybe even take the O-Line for them to practice too. And bring the defensive players for the offense to practice against.
That'll never catch on, Internet Chuck. You nut job.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 14, 2009, 07:55:59 AM
It looks like the fainting couches have been moved out of the thread, so on to the actual game:
- Is there a particular reason why Des Clark and Johnny Knox were continually quitting on their routes? Yes, Cutler was godawful in the first half, but he got absolutely no help from those boners. And if Knox is supposed to be FAST AS LIGHTNING, why did he get caught from behind on that deep ball?
- Either I'm a bad football fan for not knowing that Cullen Jenkins is a holy terror on the defensive line, or Frank Omiyale is much worse than I thought.
- Great game for the Prince, but did Tommie Harris make any plays last night? Not that I noticed.
- I guess it's time to find out if Jamar Williams is the man-beast that we're always told about during training camp. They got away with it for a half, but if they try to play this defense with an MLB as unathletic as Hillenmeyer, we've got problems.
- Why in the name of Huey's PANKhelmet was the bloated carcass of Nate Vasher covering one of the best receivers in football in the 4th quarter? Not as bad of a mismatch as Chris Thompson vs. Steve Smith but it's damn near close.
That game sucked mangina but I'm leaving my DOOMjorts in the drawer for now.
I think the receivers were quitting on routes, Clark especially, because they're not used to having a QB who moves around to keep plays alive. In the past once the QB was under pressure the play was essentially over.
Knox is still learning route running.
Cullen Jenkins is a pretty good lineman.
I would like to see Jamar Williams out there as well.
Ultimately, even with the mostly shitty play the Bears had a chance to win that game.
Why I'm not all that worried but let's see how this all plays out'd
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 09:29:50 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 14, 2009, 09:21:39 AM
Mully and Hanley were suggesting the Bears sign the 36-year-old Derrick Brooks. Thoughts?
He knows the defense. So is a 36 year old Derrick Brooks better than Hillenmeyer? Yes?
Throw Jamar Williams in the middle for a couple weeks and see what hai. If he sucks, then you can bring in old dead guys like Derrick BrooksHatlen.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 14, 2009, 07:55:59 AM
It looks like the fainting couches have been moved out of the thread, so on to the actual game:
- Is there a particular reason why Des Clark and Johnny Knox were continually quitting on their routes? Yes, Cutler was godawful in the first half, but he got absolutely no help from those boners. And if Knox is supposed to be FAST AS LIGHTNING, why did he get caught from behind on that deep ball?
- Either I'm a bad football fan for not knowing that Cullen Jenkins is a holy terror on the defensive line, or Frank Omiyale is much worse than I thought.
- Great game for the Prince, but did Tommie Harris make any plays last night? Not that I noticed.
- I guess it's time to find out if Jamar Williams is the man-beast that we're always told about during training camp. They got away with it for a half, but if they try to play this defense with an MLB as unathletic as Hillenmeyer, we've got problems.
- Why in the name of Huey's PANKhelmet was the bloated carcass of Nate Vasher covering one of the best receivers in football in the 4th quarter? Not as bad of a mismatch as Chris Thompson vs. Steve Smith but it's damn near close.
That game sucked mangina but I'm leaving my DOOMjorts in the drawer for now.
I think the receivers were quitting on routes, Clark especially, because they're not used to having a QB who moves around to keep plays alive. In the past once the QB was under pressure the play was essentially over.
Knox is still learning route running.
Cullen Jenkins is a pretty good lineman.
I would like to see Jamar Williams out there as well.
Ultimately, even with the mostly shitty play the Bears had a chance to win that game.
So an early 20s receiver who's been playing receiver probably half his life doesn't know how to run routes?
Vaughn McClure saying Urlacher's finito for '09.
Shoot.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 14, 2009, 09:21:39 AM
Mully and Hanley were suggesting the Bears sign the 36-year-old Derrick Brooks. Thoughts?
The Saints didn't think Derrick Brooks was an improvement over Scott Shanle. So, there's that.
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Vaughn McClure saying Urlacher's finito for '09.
Shoot.
At his age and injury history (back, neck), could this be it?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2009, 09:46:15 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Vaughn McClure saying Urlacher's finito for '09.
Shoot.
At his age and injury history (back, neck), could this be it?
Who cares? You never liked him anyway. We're talking about the '09 season and, Urlacher's condition aside, this is not good.
Derrick Brooks went to high school when I did. Fuck.
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 14, 2009, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 14, 2009, 07:55:59 AM
It looks like the fainting couches have been moved out of the thread, so on to the actual game:
- Is there a particular reason why Des Clark and Johnny Knox were continually quitting on their routes? Yes, Cutler was godawful in the first half, but he got absolutely no help from those boners. And if Knox is supposed to be FAST AS LIGHTNING, why did he get caught from behind on that deep ball?
- Either I'm a bad football fan for not knowing that Cullen Jenkins is a holy terror on the defensive line, or Frank Omiyale is much worse than I thought.
- Great game for the Prince, but did Tommie Harris make any plays last night? Not that I noticed.
- I guess it's time to find out if Jamar Williams is the man-beast that we're always told about during training camp. They got away with it for a half, but if they try to play this defense with an MLB as unathletic as Hillenmeyer, we've got problems.
- Why in the name of Huey's PANKhelmet was the bloated carcass of Nate Vasher covering one of the best receivers in football in the 4th quarter? Not as bad of a mismatch as Chris Thompson vs. Steve Smith but it's damn near close.
That game sucked mangina but I'm leaving my DOOMjorts in the drawer for now.
I think the receivers were quitting on routes, Clark especially, because they're not used to having a QB who moves around to keep plays alive. In the past once the QB was under pressure the play was essentially over.
Knox is still learning route running.
Cullen Jenkins is a pretty good lineman.
I would like to see Jamar Williams out there as well.
Ultimately, even with the mostly shitty play the Bears had a chance to win that game.
So an early 20s receiver who's been playing receiver probably half his life doesn't know how to run routes?
In college or high school for that matter if he is much more talented than the guy covering him, he doesn't have to be precise or finish his route to get open. Maybe he just used his speed to get open. He may not know route running because he relied on his talent.
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Vaughn McClure saying Urlacher's finito for '09.
Shoot.
Brian Urlacher = Aramis Ramirez?
I say no, but I can see the comparison being made in print and on air.
The details.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/09/brian-urlacher-out-for-the-season-with-wrist-injury.html
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 14, 2009, 09:46:15 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Vaughn McClure saying Urlacher's finito for '09.
Shoot.
At his age and injury history (back, neck), could this be it?
Who cares? You never liked him anyway. We're talking about the '09 season and, Urlacher's condition aside, this is not good.
Derrick Brooks went to high school when I did. Fuck.
Forget it, Huey. In Chucktown you don't actually root for the current year's team. You just hate a bunch of players and make predictions about their contracts so you can be 'vindicated' several years later.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 14, 2009, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Vaughn McClure saying Urlacher's finito for '09.
Shoot.
Brian Urlacher = Aramis Ramirez?
I say no, but I can see the comparison being made in print and on air.
I say the Bears skip the
Hunter Hillenmeyer = Mike Fontenot phase and move onto the
Jamar Williams = JAY KVOX phase.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 14, 2009, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Vaughn McClure saying Urlacher's finito for '09.
Shoot.
Brian Urlacher = Aramis Ramirez?
I say no, but I can see the comparison being made in print and on air.
I say the Bears skip the
Hunter Hillenmeyer = Mike Fontenot phase and move onto the
Jamar Williams = JAY KVOX phase.
Any word on the Hawaiian kid's knee injury?
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 14, 2009, 10:03:35 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 14, 2009, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Vaughn McClure saying Urlacher's finito for '09.
Shoot.
Brian Urlacher = Aramis Ramirez?
I say no, but I can see the comparison being made in print and on air.
I say the Bears skip the
Hunter Hillenmeyer = Mike Fontenot phase and move onto the
Jamar Williams = JAY KVOX phase.
Any word on the Hawaiian kid's knee injury?
Sprained knee. Should be out a few weeks from what I read.
Hunter Hillenmeyer, Earl Bennett, D.J. Moore and Chris Williams are all Mike Fontenot. Did you know that they all went to Vanderbilt where they all played with Jay Cutler (except for Moore)? That makes Cutler Theriot, except Theriot's throws are on target and he doesn't spend half the game screaming at Derrek Lee.
I love how all of the people who pissed and moaned that Urlacher was washed up are now upset that he'll miss the rest of the season. You'd think they'd be happy.
Will the defense miss a Hall of Fame middle linebacker? Uh...probably a little bit.
However, the only spot on the field that Hunter is remotely competent at is the middle, so he'll only be about 60 percent as bad as he is at OLB.
Great?
Quote from: Andy on September 14, 2009, 10:20:56 AM
Will the defense miss a Hall of Fame middle linebacker? Uh...probably a little bit.
They have since 1992.
Urlacher isn't the tackler he used to be, but pretty much every GM in the NFL would still give his left nad to have him on their team.
CHUCKFAIL.
Fuck my motherfucking life.
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2009, 11:07:08 AM
Urlacher isn't the tackler he used to be, but pretty much every GM in the NFL would still give his left nad to have him on their team.
CHUCKFAIL.
I'm way out of my element talking Bears players with Bears fans, but wasn't Urlacher hurt pretty much half his career?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 14, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
Fuck my motherfucking life.
I assume your DOOMfrontbutt is breathing heavily right now?
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 14, 2009, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2009, 11:07:08 AM
Urlacher isn't the tackler he used to be, but pretty much every GM in the NFL would still give his left nad to have him on their team.
CHUCKFAIL.
I'm way out of my element talking Bears players with Bears fans, but wasn't Urlacher hurt pretty much half his career?
If only there were easily-accessible research tool that would allow someone to look up the obscure factoid that (despite being plenty banged-up the last few seasons) Urlacher has played all 16 games in 8 of his 9 seasons.
Quote from: R-V on September 14, 2009, 11:26:21 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 14, 2009, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2009, 11:07:08 AM
Urlacher isn't the tackler he used to be, but pretty much every GM in the NFL would still give his left nad to have him on their team.
CHUCKFAIL.
I'm way out of my element talking Bears players with Bears fans, but wasn't Urlacher hurt pretty much half his career?
If only there were easily-accessible research tool that would allow someone to look up the obscure factoid that (despite being plenty banged-up the last few seasons) Urlacher has played all 16 games in 8 of his 9 seasons.
Al Gore knows about one.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 14, 2009, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2009, 11:07:08 AM
Urlacher isn't the tackler he used to be, but pretty much every GM in the NFL would still give his left nad to have him on their team.
CHUCKFAIL.
I'm way out of my element talking Bears players with Bears fans, but wasn't Urlacher hurt pretty much half his career?
He's started 16 games every season except 2000 and 2004. He started 14 and played 16 in 2000, his rookie season. And started and played 9 in 2004, Lovie's first in Chicago, when he went down due to hamstring issues.
Yeah, he's played injured a lot (in recent years probably most of the time, with back issues in particular).
But who in the NFL hasn't?
Looks like the Bears will replace their HoF middle linebacker with a HoF outside linebacker (Derrick Brooks) and move Lance into the middle. Brooks' agent says Derrick is ready to play this week.
He's 37, he couldn't find a job in the offseason, but this is great?
I know Derrick Brooks is an awesome guy and was once an unbelievable player, but if he's better now than Hunter is, Hunter should be selling real estate.
Quote from: Andy on September 14, 2009, 11:41:42 AM
Looks like the Bears will replace their HoF middle linebacker with a HoF outside linebacker (Derrick Brooks) and move Lance into the middle. Brooks' agent says Derrick is ready to play this week.
He's 37, he couldn't find a job in the offseason, but this is great?
I know Derrick Brooks is an awesome guy and was once an unbelievable player, but if he's better now than Hunter is, Hunter should be selling real estate.
Yes, because this means no Hunter at middle linebacker.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 11:47:22 AM
Quote from: Andy on September 14, 2009, 11:41:42 AM
Looks like the Bears will replace their HoF middle linebacker with a HoF outside linebacker (Derrick Brooks) and move Lance into the middle. Brooks' agent says Derrick is ready to play this week.
He's 37, he couldn't find a job in the offseason, but this is great?
I know Derrick Brooks is an awesome guy and was once an unbelievable player, but if he's better now than Hunter is, Hunter should be selling real estate.
Yes, because this means no Hunter at middle linebacker.
Who is going to play the other outside?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 14, 2009, 11:29:03 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 14, 2009, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2009, 11:07:08 AM
Urlacher isn't the tackler he used to be, but pretty much every GM in the NFL would still give his left nad to have him on their team.
CHUCKFAIL.
I'm way out of my element talking Bears players with Bears fans, but wasn't Urlacher hurt pretty much half his career?
He's started 16 games every season except 2000 and 2004. He started 14 and played 16 in 2000, his rookie season. And started and played 9 in 2004, Lovie's first in Chicago, when he went down due to hamstring issues.
Yeah, he's played injured a lot (in recent years probably most of the time, with back issues in particular).
But who in the NFL hasn't?
I guess it just "seemed" like he was hurt every season.
PS, I asked this question because I like annoying the shit out of RV.
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 14, 2009, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 14, 2009, 11:29:03 AM
Quote from: *In a Nutsack on September 14, 2009, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 14, 2009, 11:07:08 AM
Urlacher isn't the tackler he used to be, but pretty much every GM in the NFL would still give his left nad to have him on their team.
CHUCKFAIL.
I'm way out of my element talking Bears players with Bears fans, but wasn't Urlacher hurt pretty much half his career?
He's started 16 games every season except 2000 and 2004. He started 14 and played 16 in 2000, his rookie season. And started and played 9 in 2004, Lovie's first in Chicago, when he went down due to hamstring issues.
Yeah, he's played injured a lot (in recent years probably most of the time, with back issues in particular).
But who in the NFL hasn't?
I guess it just "seemed" like he was hurt every season.
PS, I asked this question because I like annoying the shit out of RV wanted to continue my streak of not contributing anything useful to a discussion.
That too'd
Just a question: was Hillenmeyer terribly exposed during the second half? He's not a bad MLB. He was miscast as a SLB. Put Brooks at SLB and keep Briggs at WLB where he can make a bigger impact.
Intrepid Reader: Jay Cutler
Out for the season with a broken wrist? Now who's the pussy?
Seriously, though, are they going to IR Urlacher or hope he can come back in December, if the Bears are fighting for a playoff spot?
I'm about to throw my Romeo ALL UP IN THIS PIECE!
Maybe I am crazy, but on the two big pass plays, weren't Knox and Hester just running straight down the field? Woodson didn't get a good bump on Knox... And Collins didn't get over to cover Hester... There was no running of an actual route from either guy... I think the Steelers might pick up on that for next week's game.
I am normally the one who says let's see how this one plays out... But I already am thinking that 8-8 would be an accomplishment... No receivers, a shit offensive line, a quarterback who doesn't know when to throw it away or when to take a sack, a defense that just lost its MLB for the season and still has a pathetic secondary, a terrible offensive coordinator and a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PM
I am normally the one who says let's see how this one plays out rushes to declare doom as early as possible
Are you kidding'd?
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PM
Maybe I am crazy, but on the two big pass plays, weren't Knox and Hester just running straight down the field? Woodson didn't get a good bump on Knox... And Collins didn't get over to cover Hester... There was no running of an actual route from either guy... I think the Steelers might pick up on that for next week's game.
I am normally the one who says let's see how this one plays out... But I already am thinking that 8-8 would be an accomplishment... No receivers, a shit offensive line, a quarterback who doesn't know when to throw it away or when to take a sack, a defense that just lost its MLB for the season and still has a pathetic secondary, a terrible offensive coordinator and a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Sometimes (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070buf.htm), just (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200709090dal.htm) sometimes (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200809070clt.htm), Week 1 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200509110jax.htm) isn't all that representative of the entire season.
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMa terrible offensive coordinator
Fasten the velcro on your sweatpants, bud. Your agenda is showing.
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMand a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Pretty sure that's already the case. Yes, the head coach makes the final decision, but doesn't every NFL head coach base their challenges on input from guys up in the booth who have actual monitors where they can watch the replays?
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PM
Maybe I am crazy, but on the two big pass plays, weren't Knox and Hester just running straight down the field? Woodson didn't get a good bump on Knox... And Collins didn't get over to cover Hester... There was no running of an actual route from either guy... I think the Steelers might pick up on that for next week's game.
I am normally the one who says let's see how this one plays out... But I already am thinking that 8-8 would be an accomplishment... No receivers, a shit offensive line, a quarterback who doesn't know when to throw it away or when to take a sack, a defense that just lost its MLB for the season and still has a pathetic secondary, a terrible offensive coordinator and a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
They're called fly routes, and yes, especially when the defense isn't ready for them, they do count as "actual routes".
Ron Zook thinks that was a terrible post.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 14, 2009, 02:03:04 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PM
Maybe I am crazy, but on the two big pass plays, weren't Knox and Hester just running straight down the field? Woodson didn't get a good bump on Knox... And Collins didn't get over to cover Hester... There was no running of an actual route from either guy... I think the Steelers might pick up on that for next week's game.
I am normally the one who says let's see how this one plays out... But I already am thinking that 8-8 would be an accomplishment... No receivers, a shit offensive line, a quarterback who doesn't know when to throw it away or when to take a sack, a defense that just lost its MLB for the season and still has a pathetic secondary, a terrible offensive coordinator and a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Sometimes (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070buf.htm), just (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200709090dal.htm) sometimes (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200809070clt.htm), Week 1 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200509110jax.htm) isn't all that representative of the entire season.
This, maybe. But I don't know how they beat Pittsburgh OR the Seahawks.
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 14, 2009, 02:03:04 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PM
Maybe I am crazy, but on the two big pass plays, weren't Knox and Hester just running straight down the field? Woodson didn't get a good bump on Knox... And Collins didn't get over to cover Hester... There was no running of an actual route from either guy... I think the Steelers might pick up on that for next week's game.
I am normally the one who says let's see how this one plays out... But I already am thinking that 8-8 would be an accomplishment... No receivers, a shit offensive line, a quarterback who doesn't know when to throw it away or when to take a sack, a defense that just lost its MLB for the season and still has a pathetic secondary, a terrible offensive coordinator and a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Sometimes (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070buf.htm), just (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200709090dal.htm) sometimes (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200809070clt.htm), Week 1 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200509110jax.htm) isn't all that representative of the entire season.
This, maybe. But I don't know how they beat Pittsburgh OR the Seahawks.
Pittsburgh's offensive line right now is awful. If the Bears d line plays well again and the offense doesn't load up it's pants like Kevin Gregg they could get the win here.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 14, 2009, 02:03:04 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PM
Maybe I am crazy, but on the two big pass plays, weren't Knox and Hester just running straight down the field? Woodson didn't get a good bump on Knox... And Collins didn't get over to cover Hester... There was no running of an actual route from either guy... I think the Steelers might pick up on that for next week's game.
I am normally the one who says let's see how this one plays out... But I already am thinking that 8-8 would be an accomplishment... No receivers, a shit offensive line, a quarterback who doesn't know when to throw it away or when to take a sack, a defense that just lost its MLB for the season and still has a pathetic secondary, a terrible offensive coordinator and a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Sometimes (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070buf.htm), just (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200709090dal.htm) sometimes (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200809070clt.htm), Week 1 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200509110jax.htm) isn't all that representative of the entire season.
This, maybe. But I don't know how they beat Pittsburgh OR the Seahawks.
Pittsburgh's offensive line right now is an awful lot like last season when the won the Super Bowl. If the Bears d line plays well again and the offense doesn't load up it's pants like Kevin Gregg they could get the win here.
Reality'd
I know about as much about football as I do about basketball hockey, but in my opinion the Packers looked pretty bad, and except for the final score (I know, that is a pretty big "except") they were outplayed both offensively and defensively by the Bears. Furthermore, the Vikings looked extremely weak against a weak team. Don't give up on this season just yet.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html)
Bears ready to sign a LB...Tim Shaw.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418)
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html)
Bears ready to sign a LB...Tim Shaw.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418)
They signed a guy from England? When one of those guys is available, gotta go get him.
Quote from: BH on September 14, 2009, 03:45:06 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html)
Bears ready to sign a LB...Tim Shaw.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418)
They signed a guy from England? When one of those guys is available, gotta go get him.
Except that this guy always tries to get too familiar in the scrum.
Quote from: CBStew on September 14, 2009, 04:06:25 PM
Quote from: BH on September 14, 2009, 03:45:06 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html)
Bears ready to sign a LB...Tim Shaw.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418)
They signed a guy from England? When one of those guys is available, gotta go get him.
Except that this guy always tries to get too familiar in the scrum.
He can't be from England. The dental work looks too nice.
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMand a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Lovie is just at league average as far as successful challenges,
and no one is good at them since the barrier for overturning a
call is so high.
I thought his challenge on the almost touch back fumble was
a great one, even if it didn't turn out.
Quote from: Pre on September 14, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMand a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Lovie is just at league average as far as successful challenges,
and no one is good at them since the barrier for overturning a
call is so high.
I thought his challenge on the almost touch back fumble was
a great one, even if it didn't turn out.
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: Pre on September 14, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMand a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Lovie is just at league average as far as successful challenges,
and no one is good at them since the barrier for overturning a
call is so high.
I thought his challenge on the almost touch back fumble was
a great one, even if it didn't turn out.
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
He was busting it back to the bench, from what I saw. I think he have even jumped over the line. But in any event, when the play was called, he was way off the field.
It's frustrating because if we had scored on two of our red zone possessions, this convo would be moot.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html)
Bears ready to sign a LB...Tim Shaw.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418)
My final assessment of this move is that he's white.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 14, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 14, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/source_bears_expected_to_sign.html)
Bears ready to sign a LB...Tim Shaw.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8418)
My final assessment of this move is that he's white.
At least he's not a runningback.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 14, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: Pre on September 14, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMand a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Lovie is just at league average as far as successful challenges,
and no one is good at them since the barrier for overturning a
call is so high.
I thought his challenge on the almost touch back fumble was
a great one, even if it didn't turn out.
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
He was busting it back to the bench, from what I saw. I think he have even jumped over the line. But in any event, when the play was called, he was way off the field.
It's frustrating because if we had scored on two of our red zone possessions, this convo would be moot.
What number do you wear again?
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 04:46:04 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 14, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: Pre on September 14, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMand a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Lovie is just at league average as far as successful challenges,
and no one is good at them since the barrier for overturning a
call is so high.
I thought his challenge on the almost touch back fumble was
a great one, even if it didn't turn out.
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
He was busting it back to the bench, from what I saw. I think he have even jumped over the line. But in any event, when the play was called, he was way off the field.
It's frustrating because if we had scored on two of our red zone possessions, this convo would be moot.
What number do you wear again?
I don't wear a number, because I get results. You stupid chief!!!
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 14, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 04:46:04 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 14, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: Pre on September 14, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMand a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Lovie is just at league average as far as successful challenges,
and no one is good at them since the barrier for overturning a
call is so high.
I thought his challenge on the almost touch back fumble was
a great one, even if it didn't turn out.
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
He was busting it back to the bench, from what I saw. I think he have even jumped over the line. But in any event, when the play was called, he was way off the field.
It's frustrating because if we had scored on two of our red zone possessions, this convo would be moot.
What number do you wear again?
I don't wear a number, because I get results. You stupid chief!!!
Gil, your only mistake was using "we" after a loss. That's when "they" couldn't score in the redzone, those bums.
Quote from: butthead on September 14, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 14, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 14, 2009, 04:46:04 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on September 14, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: Pre on September 14, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: BC on September 14, 2009, 01:39:56 PMand a head coach that needs to let someone else decide when to challenge plays...
Lovie is just at league average as far as successful challenges,
and no one is good at them since the barrier for overturning a
call is so high.
I thought his challenge on the almost touch back fumble was
a great one, even if it didn't turn out.
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
He was busting it back to the bench, from what I saw. I think he have even jumped over the line. But in any event, when the play was called, he was way off the field.
It's frustrating because if we had scored on two of our red zone possessions, this convo would be moot.
What number do you wear again?
I don't wear a number, because I get results. You stupid chief!!!
Gil, your only mistake was using "we" after a loss. That's when "they" couldn't score in the redzone, those bums.
Those fuckstains.
"The Royal 'we!' You know, the editorial... "
This thread kind of sucks a little, guys. And I'm glad I didn't bother to read it while during the game itself (opting instead to trade cynical text messages with my brother).
But, seriously. The only things that really surprised me were the special teams miscues and Utler's first half jitters.
Aside from that, we had...
Pass rush: Really fucking good (though Wale won't get to key off against Barbre every game, so we'll see if that keeps up)
Run defense: Above average
Secondary, receivers, pass protection and run blocking: Totally weak
Which is, on the whole, about what we expected going in, right?
Perhaps there's a more elegant way to put this, but one might even go so far as to say that these Chicago Bears are quite possibly the very squadron we've been given to apprehend they were.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 14, 2009, 08:13:47 PM
This thread kind of sucks a little, guys. And I'm glad I didn't bother to read it while during the game itself (opting instead to trade cynical text messages with my brother).
But, seriously. The only things that really surprised me were the special teams miscues and Utler's first half jitters.
Aside from that, we had...
Pass rush: Really fucking good (though Wale won't get to key off against Barbre every game, so we'll see if that keeps up)
Run defense: Above average
Secondary, receivers, pass protection and run blocking: Totally weak
Which is, on the whole, about what we expected going in, right?
Perhaps there's a more elegant way to put this, but one might even go so far as to say that these Chicago Bears are quite possibly the very squadron we've been given to apprehend they were.
I thought they'd block better.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 15, 2009, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 14, 2009, 08:13:47 PM
This thread kind of sucks a little, guys. And I'm glad I didn't bother to read it while during the game itself (opting instead to trade cynical text messages with my brother).
But, seriously. The only things that really surprised me were the special teams miscues and Utler's first half jitters.
Aside from that, we had...
Pass rush: Really fucking good (though Wale won't get to key off against Barbre every game, so we'll see if that keeps up)
Run defense: Above average
Secondary, receivers, pass protection and run blocking: Totally weak
Which is, on the whole, about what we expected going in, right?
Perhaps there's a more elegant way to put this, but one might even go so far as to say that these Chicago Bears are quite possibly the very squadron we've been given to apprehend they were.
I thought they'd block better.
I thought they'd block better as well. But as soon as Orlando Pace faces a defensive end who isn't really small, or particularly fast, and preferably not all that strong, he'll be right back in hall of fame form.
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2009, 08:37:25 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 15, 2009, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 14, 2009, 08:13:47 PM
This thread kind of sucks a little, guys. And I'm glad I didn't bother to read it while during the game itself (opting instead to trade cynical text messages with my brother).
But, seriously. The only things that really surprised me were the special teams miscues and Utler's first half jitters.
Aside from that, we had...
Pass rush: Really fucking good (though Wale won't get to key off against Barbre every game, so we'll see if that keeps up)
Run defense: Above average
Secondary, receivers, pass protection and run blocking: Totally weak
Which is, on the whole, about what we expected going in, right?
Perhaps there's a more elegant way to put this, but one might even go so far as to say that these Chicago Bears are quite possibly the very squadron we've been given to apprehend they were.
I thought they'd block better.
I thought they'd block better as well. But as soon as Orlando Pace faces a defensive end who isn't really small, or particularly fast, and preferably not all that strong, he'll be right back in hall of fame form.
I would like to add Frank Omiyale getting constantly run over by Jenkins.
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
I still don't get why they couldn't have gotten the same result by snapping it to Brad Maynard.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 15, 2009, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
I still don't get why they couldn't have gotten the same result by snapping it to Brad Maynard.
Because, if you snap to Maynard you can only get 5 yards. If you snap with 12 on the field and the up back somehow breaks through for a first down, you get to keep the ball. If he gets tackled short, you simply re-kick.
Seems to me that it's a smart play but leaving it up to the center is a mistake. He can't see who's on the field as he's bent down to snap. It should be the up back who makes the call.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 15, 2009, 11:28:06 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 15, 2009, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
This. As for the 12 men on the field challenge, someone had to have noticed that Clay Mathews got off the field in time, no?
I still don't get why they couldn't have gotten the same result by snapping it to Brad Maynard.
Because, if you snap to Maynard you can only get 5 yards. If you snap with 12 on the field and the up back somehow breaks through for a first down, you get to keep the ball. If he gets tackled short, you simply re-kick.
Seems to me that it's a smart play but leaving it up to the center is a mistake. He can't see who's on the field as he's bent down to snap. It should be the up back who makes the call.
Whoever calls cadence generally just has to yell "Fire" for a quick snap. He's the one doing the counting.
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
(http://www.1070thefan.com/Pics/dakich/meltdowns/jim_mora_playoffs.jpg)
Playoffs?
Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because being on TV is a better job.
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 15, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
How many interviews have you seen Cutler do?
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 15, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 15, 2009, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 15, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
The same people who think The Cubs
have to deal Zambrano because Miles will make a couple of million dollars next year?
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 15, 2009, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 15, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Strictly from a PR standpoint, if you're the Bears and you shelled out serious coin for the face of your franchise you don't want him to look like Droopy Dog.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 15, 2009, 02:48:44 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 15, 2009, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 15, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Strictly from a PR standpoint, if you're the Bears and you shelled out serious coin for the face of your franchise you don't want him to look like Droopy Dog.
I would hope that if the Bears shelled out serious coin for him that they would be most concerned about his play on the field. Good play and winning games is the best PR they can possibly have.
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Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Strictly from a PR standpoint, if you're the Bears and you shelled out serious coin for the face of your franchise you don't want him to look like Droopy Dog.
I would hope that if the Bears shelled out serious coin for him that they would be most concerned about his play on the field. Good play and winning games is the best PR they can possibly have.
I know it's en vogue to pile on, but GODR has a fairly valid point about wanting your star players to have some media training.
Obviously the play on the field is key, and good play will offset anything else, but you want the guys to be at least reasonably good with the media.
I'm not judging Cutler on his media skills, just in general here for any superstar.
resume piling on...
Quote from: PenFoe on September 15, 2009, 02:59:14 PM
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Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Strictly from a PR standpoint, if you're the Bears and you shelled out serious coin for the face of your franchise you don't want him to look like Droopy Dog.
I would hope that if the Bears shelled out serious coin for him that they would be most concerned about his play on the field. Good play and winning games is the best PR they can possibly have.
I know it's en vogue to pile on, but GODR has a fairly valid point about wanting your star players to have some media training.
Obviously the play on the field is key, and good play will offset anything else, but you want the guys to be at least reasonably good with the media.
I'm not judging Cutler on his media skills, just in general here for any superstar.
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Oh no! These ex-coaches are losers.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/15/why-do-lovies-buddies-keep-piling-on-cutler/
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Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Strictly from a PR standpoint, if you're the Bears and you shelled out serious coin for the face of your franchise you don't want him to look like Droopy Dog.
I would hope that if the Bears shelled out serious coin for him that they would be most concerned about his play on the field. Good play and winning games is the best PR they can possibly have.
I know it's en vogue to pile on, but GODR has a fairly valid point about wanting your star players to have some media training.
Obviously the play on the field is key, and good play will offset anything else, but you want the guys to be at least reasonably good with the media.
I'm not judging Cutler on his media skills, just in general here for any superstar.
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To what end though? To satisfy the meathead sportswriters in this town or anywhere else? For me it's about the play on the field.
Lets say Kevin Gregg was a master at handling the media, it still doesn't change the fact that he sucked on the field and that I dislike him.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 15, 2009, 02:48:44 PM
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Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Strictly from a PR standpoint, if you're the Bears and you shelled out serious coin for the face of your franchise you don't want him to look like Droopy Dog.
Why? He was Droopy Dog after the loss. Ok. How do you want him to act? He just had the worst game of his professional career. How the fuck would you act if you had your worst day on the job and you had to give an interview to a bunch of ungrateful fucks who seem to want to stir up shit by making you make a verbal mistake. From a PR standpoint, I could give a shit how my franchise quarterback looks after a loss, or a win for that matter. Do a couple commercials. Do a magazine shoot. I don't care what you say to the media, as long as you don't rip on your entire team in an interview. I just don't see how this matters in the grand scheme of things. That being said, I like assholes on the teams I root for.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 15, 2009, 02:59:14 PM
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Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Strictly from a PR standpoint, if you're the Bears and you shelled out serious coin for the face of your franchise you don't want him to look like Droopy Dog.
I would hope that if the Bears shelled out serious coin for him that they would be most concerned about his play on the field. Good play and winning games is the best PR they can possibly have.
I know it's en vogue to pile on, but GODR has a fairly valid point about wanting your star players to have some media training.
Obviously the play on the field is key, and good play will offset anything else, but you want the guys to be at least reasonably good with the media.
I'm not judging Cutler on his media skills, just in general here for any superstar.
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As simply as I can put it...
I couldn't give a fuck.
"Just win baby"
Bobby Douglass was a great media guy. So was Rex Grossman. Let's bring them both back!
Quote from: Brownie on September 15, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Bobby Douglass was a great media guy. So was Rex Grossman. Let's bring them both back!
Douglass threw harder than Jake Utler too.
How many wins/losses has Bill Belichick's handling of the media accounted for since he got the job in New England. Brady does a great job of talking to reporters. Those interviews ARE HUGE. They help him rake in endorsement deals so he can buy shit for his supermodel wife.
Bottom line: Fuck the media. Fuck Mike Martz. Fuck anybody who gives a fuck about a fucking interview with a player/coach/GM etc... Shut the fuck up and drink your shitty beer.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 15, 2009, 03:20:46 PM
How many wins/losses has Bill Belichick's handling of the media accounted for since he got the job in New England. Brady does a great job of talking to reporters. Those interviews ARE HUGE. They help him rake in endorsement deals so he can buy shit for his supermodel wife.
Bottom line: Fuck the media. Fuck Mike Martz. Fuck anybody who gives a fuck about a fucking interview with a player/coach/GM etc... Shut the fuck up and drink your shitty beer.
I don't drink shitty beer.
Well, actually, I do.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 15, 2009, 02:59:14 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 15, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on September 15, 2009, 02:48:44 PM
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Quote from: BH on September 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
"Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.
After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.
Source: Chicago Sun Times "
If they're so fucking smart, why aren't they coaching somewhere?
Because they're shitty coaches?
I will say this, the Bears would be wise to invest in some media training for Cutler. He comes across about as poorly as any professional athlete I've ever seen in an interview setting. He always looks somebody just shot his dog.
Outside of washed up former head coaches and the morans at ESPN, does anybody really give a shit about how Cutler handles the media?
Strictly from a PR standpoint, if you're the Bears and you shelled out serious coin for the face of your franchise you don't want him to look like Droopy Dog.
I would hope that if the Bears shelled out serious coin for him that they would be most concerned about his play on the field. Good play and winning games is the best PR they can possibly have.
I know it's en vogue to pile on, but GODR has a fairly valid point about wanting your star players to have some media training.
Obviously the play on the field is key, and good play will offset anything else, but you want the guys to be at least reasonably good with the media.
I'm not judging Cutler on his media skills, just in general here for any superstar.
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Thank you.
I don't in any way agree with Martz and Mora's characterization that Cutler "doesn't care". But Cutler doesn't help himself by sad-sacking it in the postgame scrum.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 15, 2009, 03:20:46 PM
How many wins/losses has Bill Belichick's handling of the media accounted for since he got the job in New England. Brady does a great job of talking to reporters. Those interviews ARE HUGE. They help him rake in endorsement deals so he can buy shit for his supermodel wife.
Bottom line: Fuck the media. Fuck Mike Martz. Fuck anybody who gives a fuck about a fucking interview with a player/coach/GM etc... Shut the fuck up and drink your shitty beer.
And fuck those newspaper fucks too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stella Artois!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The all-knowing
ESPN POWER RANKINGS have spoken.
QuoteThe loss to Green Bay was tough. The loss of Brian Urlacher for the season was devastating. (Chadiha)
Cancel the season, everyone. Better luck next year.
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 15, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Bobby Douglass was a great media guy. So was Rex Grossman. Let's bring them both back!
Douglass threw harder than Jake Utler too.
And he and his douchewipe son liked to start bar fights with people who are me because we were cheering against Kansas in an NCAA tournament game.
Quote from: Shatoon; Bringer of Corn on September 15, 2009, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 15, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Bobby Douglass was a great media guy. So was Rex Grossman. Let's bring them both back!
Douglass threw harder than Jake Utler too.
And douchwipe he and his douchewipe son liked to start bar fights with people who are me because we were cheering against Kansas in an NCAA tournament game.
Apple-doesn't-fall-far-from-the-tree'd.
Douglass is Schilling-esque in his love of media. But he's an ass. I hoped you kicked his ass Slak.
Quote from: Shatoon; Bringer of Corn on September 15, 2009, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 15, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Bobby Douglass was a great media guy. So was Rex Grossman. Let's bring them both back!
Douglass threw harder than Jake Utler too.
And he and his douchewipe son liked to start bar fights with people who are me because we were cheering against Kansas in an NCAA tournament game.
Next time you play softball with Pappas, ask him about his "Darrell Evans" story.
Quote from: MAD on September 15, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
Quote from: Shatoon; Bringer of Corn on September 15, 2009, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 15, 2009, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 15, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Bobby Douglass was a great media guy. So was Rex Grossman. Let's bring them both back!
Douglass threw harder than Jake Utler too.
And he and his douchewipe son liked to start bar fights with people who are me because we were cheering against Kansas in an NCAA tournament game.
Next time you play softball with Pappas Papoose, ask him about his "Darrell Evans" story.
We don't actually know Milt'd.
This secondary is beyond awful.
We're all well aware of Lovie's emphasis on stripping balls to manufacture turnovers, but I think he should still give serious thought to fining Danieal Manning every time he opts to just stand there swatting at a ball instead of making a tackle.
FRUSTRATION!!!
Jeff Reed looks like he's about to cry.
Quote from: BC on September 20, 2009, 03:26:52 PM
This secondary isI am beyond awful.
I hope you jumped off that ledge before the Bears came back.
Looks like Pen is gonna be real busy at work this coming week.
Fuck all y'all nonbelievers. I'm back on the bus to the GOD DAMNED SUPERBOWL!
Robbie Gould is money.
DPD...Hillenmeyer is a skinny bitch.
Taco Bell, mothafucka, STAT!
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
BTW... How about that little dose of perspective we got earlier in the day regarding the Bears' running attack (seeing what transpired in Green Bay versus the same Packers D that held the Bears to 2.8 per carry a week ago)?
Someone step up and make me feel better about that.
Quote from: RedBeard on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
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Quote from: RedBeard on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
No turnovers. I like.
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
I think its more of a combination of facing 3-4 fronts, Turner (who as much as I usually defend him has been pissing me off this year) insisting on running to the outside against those 3-4s, the offensive line starting three new starters (run blocking takes more time to gel with than pass blocking because it's far more of an assignment style than pass blocking), and the fact that the Bears have clearly been more concerned with establishing the passing game.
The outside runs and delayed hand offs have really been pissing me off. The whole fucking point of a 3-4 defense is to have have more athleticism than the offense on the outside. By these constant stretch, sweeps, and tosses Turner seems to think that Pace and Williams and whichever guard pulls on the play are fast enough to consistently beat linebackers to the point of attack, and that's just not going to happen as often as Turner tries it. They need to pound it inside on a quick handoff a few times and establish the inside running game. Then they could at least get the play action game really going, which is where Turner's playbook really opens up.
Fortunately Frank Gore just gashed the Seahawks for 207 yards rushing, so I would hope the Bears can get Forte going with some smarter play calling.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last
year NIGHT. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
Cutler's operating under the basic premise that if you hit even the shittiest receiver in the hands enough, one or two will stick.
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
If Knox continues to develop like this and the passing game gets more in sync, I think the running game will open up as teams can no longer load up the box. Unless they want Hester or Knox blazing past them for big gains.
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
As much as I hope that's true, it wouldn't shock me if these guys really are just a bunch of turds. The Bears have hit on like one receiver pick under Angelo. Berrian, who is one dimensional and gone is the guy though you could make an Olegesque spirited yet incorrect argument for Hester. Gage, Wade, Bradley... all gone and all suck. None of them ever played with the likes of Utler though. I'm looking forward sitting outside in the freezing cold and snow and ice and seeing how this shit plays out. I wouldn't know a good wideout if he caught a touchdown, ran up and jumped into my lap. (Coolest thing I saw all Sunday, Ochocinco)
Quote from: Fork on September 21, 2009, 07:58:54 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
Cutler's operating under the basic premise that if you hit even the shittiest receiver in the hands enough, one or two will stick.
And that's why I'm building a shrine to him in my undershorts out of jizz.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 08:01:19 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
As much as I hope that's true, it wouldn't shock me if these guys really are just a bunch of turds. The Bears have hit on like one receiver pick under Angelo. Berrian, who is one dimensional and gone is the guy though you could make an Olegesque spirited yet incorrect argument for Hester. Gage, Wade, Bradley... all gone and all suck. None of them ever played with the likes of Utler though. I'm looking forward sitting outside in the freezing cold and snow and ice and seeing how this shit plays out. I wouldn't know a good wideout if he caught a touchdown, ran up and jumped into my lap. (Coolest thing I saw all Sunday, Ochocinco)
Seriously? The drops have been painful, but that'll disappear as they get used to the velocity and timing of Cutler's passes. Honestly if you'd have told me that the Hester, Bennett, and Knox trio would be averaging a combined 175 ypg after two games, I'd have taken it. Bennett looks like a solid underneath guy, and Hester and Knox are both outstanding deep threats. Lost in all the fury last week was that Hester had the best receiving game of his career (4 for 90, TD) during a fairly pedestrian effort by Cutler. If Greg Olsen would just hold onto a pass or two, this group goes from potentially good to dangerous.
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2009, 08:18:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 08:01:19 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
As much as I hope that's true, it wouldn't shock me if these guys really are just a bunch of turds. The Bears have hit on like one receiver pick under Angelo. Berrian, who is one dimensional and gone is the guy though you could make an Olegesque spirited yet incorrect argument for Hester. Gage, Wade, Bradley... all gone and all suck. None of them ever played with the likes of Utler though. I'm looking forward sitting outside in the freezing cold and snow and ice and seeing how this shit plays out. I wouldn't know a good wideout if he caught a touchdown, ran up and jumped into my lap. (Coolest thing I saw all Sunday, Ochocinco)
Seriously? The drops have been painful, but that'll disappear as they get used to the velocity and timing of Cutler's passes. Honestly if you'd have told me that the Hester, Bennett, and Knox trio would be averaging a combined 175 ypg after two games, I'd have taken it. Bennett looks like a solid underneath guy, and Hester and Knox are both outstanding deep threats. Lost in all the fury last week was that Hester had the best receiving game of his career (4 for 90, TD) during a fairly pedestrian effort by Cutler. If Greg Olsen would just hold onto a pass or two pick up his bro, this group goes from potentially good to dangerous.
Tai's till 4'd.
I was riding Olsen too, but that doubly-concussed sonofabitch stepped up late. The sideline pass that knocked him out was pretty bad, but he took another hit to the head in the 4th quarter on a ball he hung on to and also had the presence of mind to jump on a fumble that Forte left on the ground.
And, how 'bout that Kellen Davis?
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2009, 07:20:25 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
I think its more of a combination of facing 3-4 fronts, Turner (who as much as I usually defend him has been pissing me off this year) insisting on running to the outside against those 3-4s, the offensive line starting three new starters (run blocking takes more time to gel with than pass blocking because it's far more of an assignment style than pass blocking), and the fact that the Bears have clearly been more concerned with establishing the passing game.
The outside runs and delayed hand offs have really been pissing me off. The whole fucking point of a 3-4 defense is to have have more athleticism than the offense on the outside. By these constant stretch, sweeps, and tosses Turner seems to think that Pace and Williams and whichever guard pulls on the play are fast enough to consistently beat linebackers to the point of attack, and that's just not going to happen as often as Turner tries it. They need to pound it inside on a quick handoff a few times and establish the inside running game. Then they could at least get the play action game really going, which is where Turner's playbook really opens up.
Fortunately Frank Gore just gashed the Seahawks for 207 yards rushing, so I would hope the Bears can get Forte going with some smarter play calling.
ALL. OF. THAT. Three new starters on an offensive line is a pretty big deal. If they're still averaging 2 or 3 yards a carry in a month, I'll be worried. And give those goons some credit for only yielding one sack to the Steelers pass rush, although Cutler's mobility and pocket presence definitely played a part in that.
I'm also on the optimistic side of things with the receivers, Knox, Bennett, and Hester are all competent, and with Utler's platinum arm that should be enough. And just wait until Devin Dev Dev Junior Aromoshabadoo is activated. LDA told me he would be the missing puzzle piece for this offense, and I believe him.
A kudos bar to Hillenmeyer. You could tell they missed Urlacher's coverage abilities on some of the mid-range passes across the middle, but he played a perfectly competent game. The safeties, on the other hand, still give me the vapors. Does a play-action fake exist that Manning and Payne
won't bite on?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year NIGHT. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/1oar6e.jpg)
?Oh... did you mean Whoopi?
I certainly have my share of man love for the Original AP, but his 5.3 YPC yesterday on 3 carries was totally thanks to his first rush for 15 yards, not so much his second and third rushes (for 0 and 1 yard, respectively).
Regardless, my point was that Benson's 141 yard, 4.9 YPC day against the same Green Bay defense that held the Bears to 2.8 YPC last week suggests there may be some run blocking or running back issues (or both) remaining for the Bears to work out.
Or offensive play-calling, as SKO mentions above. Which, now that I think about it, strikes me as very, very reasonable.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 09:12:07 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year NIGHT. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/1oar6e.jpg)?
Oh... did you mean Whoopi?
I certainly have my share of man love for the Original AP, but his 5.3 YPC yesterday on 3 carries was totally thanks to his first rush for 15 yards, not so much his second and third rushes (for 0 and 1 yard, respectively).
Regardless, my point was that Benson's 141 yard, 4.9 YPC day against the same Green Bay defense that held the Bears to 2.8 YPC last week suggests there may be some run blocking or running back issues (or both) remaining for the Bears to work out.
Or offensive play-calling, as SKO mentions above. Which, now that I think about it, strikes me as very, very reasonable.
You'd hope some video tape and a pen and paper would solve this issue next time the Bears meet the Pack in front of the 4th Phase. I just hope Matty F is still walking upright at that point.
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2009, 08:18:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 08:01:19 AM
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 21, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
As much as I hope that's true, it wouldn't shock me if these guys really are just a bunch of turds. The Bears have hit on like one receiver pick under Angelo. Berrian, who is one dimensional and gone is the guy though you could make an Olegesque spirited yet incorrect argument for Hester. Gage, Wade, Bradley... all gone and all suck. None of them ever played with the likes of Utler though. I'm looking forward sitting outside in the freezing cold and snow and ice and seeing how this shit plays out. I wouldn't know a good wideout if he caught a touchdown, ran up and jumped into my lap. (Coolest thing I saw all Sunday, Ochocinco)
Seriously? The drops have been painful, but that'll disappear as they get used to the velocity and timing of Cutler's passes. Honestly if you'd have told me that the Hester, Bennett, and Knox trio would be averaging a combined 175 ypg after two games, I'd have taken it. Bennett looks like a solid underneath guy, and Hester and Knox are both outstanding deep threats. Lost in all the fury last week was that Hester had the best receiving game of his career (4 for 90, TD) during a fairly pedestrian effort by Cutler. If Greg Olsen would just hold onto a pass or two, this group goes from potentially good to dangerous.
I should maybe have typed that part first.
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: RedBeard on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
So emphatically THIS. It was a wet field that both kickers needed to overcome, and no kick could be considered a "gimme." Gould overcame it. Reed didn't. That was a fun game to watch, especially since there were a bunch of CFIPs sitting around us.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 20, 2009, 06:16:08 PM
Looks like Pen is gonna be real busy at work this coming week.
I resent the implication that I would somehow try to duck and cover until this week is over.
I have nothing much to say here, the teams basically played the game entirely evenly. The Steelers ran the ball a little better, but the Bears kicked the ball better.
That's about it.
I think the Steelers missed Polamalu more than the Bears missed Urlacher (mostly because Hillenmeyer was WAY better than Tyrone Carter), but really, this was a dead-even game in almost all aspects.
You guys got the win, so I whole-heartedly accept all shit-talking, but I don't think anyone can say that one team was clearly better yesterday.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 21, 2009, 10:55:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: RedBeard on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
So emphatically THIS. It was a wet field that both kickers needed to overcome, and no kick could be considered a "gimme." Gould overcame it. Reed didn't. That was a fun game to watch, especially since there were a bunch of CFIPs sitting around us.
Yes. And they brought their towels. The best part of that was when the Steelers had the ball in a critical situations, these idiots would wave their flags and yell. Umm, wouldn't you prefer it to be
quiet when your team's on offense, rather than add to the noise being brought by the home crowd?
Also, I'm in a confidence pool with my in-laws and all of my wife's extended relatives. Most of these people are in Michigan and beyond and, despite their proximity to Chicago, I'm the only genuine Bears fans. There are, however, some people in this bunch who are from Pittsburgh and I was being outnumbered in the smack-talking. Once the ante was raised and I opened my mouth, I felt I had no choice but to put my big meatball hat on and put 16 points on the Bears. Mission accomplished.
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 11:29:02 AM
Also, I'm in a confidence pool with my in-laws and all of my wife's extended relatives. Most of these people are in Michigan and beyond and, despite their proximity to Chicago, I'm the only genuine Bears fans. There are, however, some people in this bunch who are from Pittsburgh and I was being outnumbered in the smack-talking. Once the ante was raised and I opened my mouth, I felt I had no choice but to put my big meatball hat on and put 16 points on the Bears. Mission accomplished.
The Bears
were 3 point favorites. Amiright? SeewhatIdidthere?
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 21, 2009, 10:55:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: RedBeard on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
So emphatically THIS. It was a wet field that both kickers needed to overcome, and no kick could be considered a "gimme." Gould overcame it. Reed didn't. That was a fun game to watch, especially since there were a bunch of CFIPs sitting around us.
Yes. And they brought their towels. The best part of that was when the Steelers had the ball in a critical situations, these idiots would wave their flags and yell. Umm, wouldn't you prefer it to be quiet when your team's on offense, rather than add to the noise being brought by the home crowd?
Also, I'm in a confidence pool with my in-laws and all of my wife's extended relatives. Most of these people are in Michigan and beyond and, despite their proximity to Chicago, I'm the only genuine Bears fans. There are, however, some people in this bunch who are from Pittsburgh and I was being outnumbered in the smack-talking. Once the ante was raised and I opened my mouth, I felt I had no choice but to put my big meatball hat on and put 16 points on the Bears. Mission accomplished.
There were a TON of CFiP's around us too. They travel well, and the douche quotient is remarkably low. Not looking forward to the Browns contingent in six weeks.
Quote from: Brownie on September 21, 2009, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 21, 2009, 10:55:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: RedBeard on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
So emphatically THIS. It was a wet field that both kickers needed to overcome, and no kick could be considered a "gimme." Gould overcame it. Reed didn't. That was a fun game to watch, especially since there were a bunch of CFIPs sitting around us.
Yes. And they brought their towels. The best part of that was when the Steelers had the ball in a critical situations, these idiots would wave their flags and yell. Umm, wouldn't you prefer it to be quiet when your team's on offense, rather than add to the noise being brought by the home crowd?
Also, I'm in a confidence pool with my in-laws and all of my wife's extended relatives. Most of these people are in Michigan and beyond and, despite their proximity to Chicago, I'm the only genuine Bears fans. There are, however, some people in this bunch who are from Pittsburgh and I was being outnumbered in the smack-talking. Once the ante was raised and I opened my mouth, I felt I had no choice but to put my big meatball hat on and put 16 points on the Bears. Mission accomplished.
There were a TON of CFiP's around us too. They travel well, and the douche quotient is remarkably low. Not looking forward to the Browns contingent in six weeks.
I'm very much looking forward to the Browns game because it should be an absolute massacre. That is one of the worst teams in the league right there. They have almost no talent.
Quote from: Shatoon; Bringer of Corn on September 21, 2009, 12:16:24 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 21, 2009, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 21, 2009, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 21, 2009, 10:55:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: RedBeard on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
So emphatically THIS. It was a wet field that both kickers needed to overcome, and no kick could be considered a "gimme." Gould overcame it. Reed didn't. That was a fun game to watch, especially since there were a bunch of CFIPs sitting around us.
Yes. And they brought their towels. The best part of that was when the Steelers had the ball in a critical situations, these idiots would wave their flags and yell. Umm, wouldn't you prefer it to be quiet when your team's on offense, rather than add to the noise being brought by the home crowd?
Also, I'm in a confidence pool with my in-laws and all of my wife's extended relatives. Most of these people are in Michigan and beyond and, despite their proximity to Chicago, I'm the only genuine Bears fans. There are, however, some people in this bunch who are from Pittsburgh and I was being outnumbered in the smack-talking. Once the ante was raised and I opened my mouth, I felt I had no choice but to put my big meatball hat on and put 16 points on the Bears. Mission accomplished.
There were a TON of CFiP's around us too. They travel well, and the douche quotient is remarkably low. Not looking forward to the Browns contingent in six weeks.
I'm very much looking forward to the Browns game because it should be an absolute massacre. That is one of the worst teams in the league right there. They have almost no talent.
The Browns are an awful team with a head coach who believes he's some sort of genius.
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Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
So emphatically THIS. It was a wet field that both kickers needed to overcome, and no kick could be considered a "gimme." Gould overcame it. Reed didn't. That was a fun game to watch, especially since there were a bunch of CFIPs sitting around us.
Yes. And they brought their towels. The best part of that was when the Steelers had the ball in a critical situations, these idiots would wave their flags and yell. Umm, wouldn't you prefer it to be quiet when your team's on offense, rather than add to the noise being brought by the home crowd?
Also, I'm in a confidence pool with my in-laws and all of my wife's extended relatives. Most of these people are in Michigan and beyond and, despite their proximity to Chicago, I'm the only genuine Bears fans. There are, however, some people in this bunch who are from Pittsburgh and I was being outnumbered in the smack-talking. Once the ante was raised and I opened my mouth, I felt I had no choice but to put my big meatball hat on and put 16 points on the Bears. Mission accomplished.
There were a TON of CFiP's around us too. They travel well, and the douche quotient is remarkably low. Not looking forward to the Browns contingent in six weeks.
I'm very much looking forward to the Browns game because it should be an absolute massacre. That is one of the worst teams in the league right there. They have almost no talent.
The Browns are an awful team with a head coach who believes was told by the New York media he's some sort of genius.
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Quote from: RedBeard on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Robbie Gould is money.
That said, the Bears did not win on skill - they won on the Steelers' lack of it today.
Seriously? Fuck that. I hate when people act like missed fucking field goals (the second one was deflected, btw, if you watch the replay you'll see the ball's flight change after it hits the line of scrimmage) are some kind of fluke. A kicker's a player just like any other on the field, he failed to do his job. What are you going to blame it on? The Steelers dropping passes? The Bears did that too. There's not a god damn thing the Steelers fucked up that the Bears didn't also fuck up, and yet one team overcame it to win the game.
First Downs 21 15
Passing 13 12
Rushing 7 2
Penalty 1 1
Third Down Efficiency 6-12 7-14
Fourth Down Efficiency 1-1 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 308 275
Total Plays 59 57
Average Gain Per Play 5.2 4.8
NET YARDS RUSHING 105 43
Rushes 22 18
Average Per Rush 4.8 2.4
NET YARDS PASSING 203 232
Completions-Attempts 23-35 27-38
Yards Per Pass Play 5.5 5.9
Times Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 18 4
Had Intercepted 1 0
PUNTS 3 6
Average Punt 54.3 45.8
PENALTIES 6 10
Penalty Yards 52 80
FUMBLES 1 1
Fumbles Lost 1 0
TIME OF POSSESSION 30:26 29:34
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even. The Steelers did not just hand that game away. The Bears won. Fuck the idea that the Steelers just gave it away.
So emphatically THIS. It was a wet field that both kickers needed to overcome, and no kick could be considered a "gimme." Gould overcame it. Reed didn't. That was a fun game to watch, especially since there were a bunch of CFIPs sitting around us.
Yes. And they brought their towels. The best part of that was when the Steelers had the ball in a critical situations, these idiots would wave their flags and yell. Umm, wouldn't you prefer it to be quiet when your team's on offense, rather than add to the noise being brought by the home crowd?
Also, I'm in a confidence pool with my in-laws and all of my wife's extended relatives. Most of these people are in Michigan and beyond and, despite their proximity to Chicago, I'm the only genuine Bears fans. There are, however, some people in this bunch who are from Pittsburgh and I was being outnumbered in the smack-talking. Once the ante was raised and I opened my mouth, I felt I had no choice but to put my big meatball hat on and put 16 points on the Bears. Mission accomplished.
There were a TON of CFiP's around us too. They travel well, and the douche quotient is remarkably low. Not looking forward to the Browns contingent in six weeks.
I resent the inference. I'm just getting here because I was too busy all of last night laughing at all my friends who root for the Pissburgh Stillers.
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The Browns game WILL be a massacre, but I'm not looking forward to the worst fans in football flinging dog biscuits at me pregame and postgame.
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The Browns game WILL be a massacre, but I'm not looking forward to the worst fans in football flinging dog biscuits at me pregame and postgame.
Hey, they're YOUR fans...
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Nice, but you really need to have Cutler's smile. I thought he was going to kill the ref for a sec.
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Also: awesome.
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In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
As much as I hope that's true, it wouldn't shock me if these guys really are just a bunch of turds. The Bears have hit on like one receiver pick under Angelo. Berrian, who is one dimensional and gone is the guy though you could make an Olegesque spirited yet incorrect argument for Hester. Gage, Wade, Bradley... all gone and all suck. None of them ever played with the likes of Utler though. I'm looking forward sitting outside in the freezing cold and snow and ice and seeing how this shit plays out. I wouldn't know a good wideout if he caught a touchdown, ran up and jumped into my lap. (Coolest thing I saw all Sunday, Ochocinco)
Berrian is pretty servicable in Vikingland and Gage, Wade etc are all playing elsewhere as well. Could be that the receivers that Angelo selected didn't suck, the guy Angelo selected to throw to them did. I'm willing to wait a bit and see how this plays out.
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Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 21, 2009, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 20, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
In every damn category other than rushing yards, its damn near even.
I can't help but dwell on this.
Is it all on the O-line? Or is the Kevin Jones injury going to hurt even more than feared?
This is green font, right? Orange Jebus outplayed him all last year and he was the Bears most productive back last year. I think teams are still daring the Bears to throw on them because of the receiving corps. But that shit's gotta stop eventually.
Indeed. Cutler's having auditions on which WR is going to step up, and Johnny Knocks seems to be answering the casting call. I think I remember reading where Brandon Marshall was not regarded too highly before meeting Cutler and that Eddie Royal was really a nobody before last year and, if that's the case, I'm willing to buy the notion that out of this mass of mediocrity, Cutler's going to pull one or two (Bennett?) guys up a level.
As much as I hope that's true, it wouldn't shock me if these guys really are just a bunch of turds. The Bears have hit on like one receiver pick under Angelo. Berrian, who is one dimensional and gone is the guy though you could make an Olegesque spirited yet incorrect argument for Hester. Gage, Wade, Bradley... all gone and all suck. None of them ever played with the likes of Utler though. I'm looking forward sitting outside in the freezing cold and snow and ice and seeing how this shit plays out. I wouldn't know a good wideout if he caught a touchdown, ran up and jumped into my lap. (Coolest thing I saw all Sunday, Ochocinco)
Berrian is pretty servicable in Vikingland and Gage, Wade etc are all playing elsewhere as well. Could be that the receivers that Angelo selected didn't suck, the guy Angelo selected to throw to them did. I'm willing to wait a bit and see how this plays out.
Justin Gage does suck, though.
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He was walking directly at the ref's arm. I wonder what he expected would happen. KYLE ORTON NEVER HAD HIS HELMET KNOCKED OFF BY A REF!!!
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The guy who would rank third on the Bears in receiving yards (and would only cost about $40 million more than the first two) is apparently not impressed by Jerry Angelo (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/23/houshmandzadeh-calls-out-bears-gm-angelo/) or the Bears secondary (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/25/houshmandzadeh-keeps-chirping-about-chicago/).
Quote from: SKO on September 25, 2009, 09:34:45 AM
The guy who would rank third on the Bears in receiving yards (and would only cost about $40 million more than the first two) is apparently not impressed by Jerry Angelo (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/23/houshmandzadeh-calls-out-bears-gm-angelo/) or the Bears secondary (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/25/houshmandzadeh-keeps-chirping-about-chicago/).
At least if they'd picked him up, the Bears might have someone to coach Utler on talking to the press.
QuoteIn advance of this week's game against the Bears, Housmandzadeh was asked if he had any serious talks with Bears G.M. Jerry Angelo.
"Man, the Bears ain't holler at me,'' he said.
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=219448
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 25, 2009, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 25, 2009, 09:34:45 AM
The guy who would rank third on the Bears in receiving yards (and would only cost about $40 million more than the first two) is apparently not impressed by Jerry Angelo (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/23/houshmandzadeh-calls-out-bears-gm-angelo/) or the Bears secondary (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/25/houshmandzadeh-keeps-chirping-about-chicago/).
At least if they'd picked him up, the Bears might have someone to coach Utler on talking to the press.
QuoteIn advance of this week's game against the Bears, Housmandzadeh was asked if he had any serious talks with Bears G.M. Jerry Angelo.
"Man, the Bears ain't holler at me,'' he said.
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=219448
He's also bitched about his Madden rating this year and boasted that both he and Matt Hasselbeck would go to the Pro Bowl. He's an overrated, drastically overprice possession receiver who just might have benefitted from a Pro Bowl quarterback and lining up opposite of a guy who was consistently double covered. Maybe. I don't know.
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Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 25, 2009, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 25, 2009, 09:34:45 AM
The guy who would rank third on the Bears in receiving yards (and would only cost about $40 million more than the first two) is apparently not impressed by Jerry Angelo (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/23/houshmandzadeh-calls-out-bears-gm-angelo/) or the Bears secondary (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/25/houshmandzadeh-keeps-chirping-about-chicago/).
At least if they'd picked him up, the Bears might have someone to coach Utler on talking to the press.
QuoteIn advance of this week's game against the Bears, Housmandzadeh was asked if he had any serious talks with Bears G.M. Jerry Angelo.
"Man, the Bears ain't holler at me,'' he said.
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=219448
He's also bitched about his Madden rating this year and boasted that both he and Matt Hasselbeck would go to the Pro Bowl. He's an overrated, drastically overprice possession receiver who just might have benefitted from a Pro Bowl quarterback and lining up opposite of a guy who was consistently double covered. Maybe. I don't know.
Also he has a ponytail.
Quote from: Ivy6 on September 25, 2009, 11:13:50 AM
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Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 25, 2009, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 25, 2009, 09:34:45 AM
The guy who would rank third on the Bears in receiving yards (and would only cost about $40 million more than the first two) is apparently not impressed by Jerry Angelo (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/23/houshmandzadeh-calls-out-bears-gm-angelo/) or the Bears secondary (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/25/houshmandzadeh-keeps-chirping-about-chicago/).
At least if they'd picked him up, the Bears might have someone to coach Utler on talking to the press.
QuoteIn advance of this week's game against the Bears, Housmandzadeh was asked if he had any serious talks with Bears G.M. Jerry Angelo.
"Man, the Bears ain't holler at me,'' he said.
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=219448
He's also bitched about his Madden rating this year and boasted that both he and Matt Hasselbeck would go to the Pro Bowl. He's an overrated, drastically overprice possession receiver who just might have benefitted from a Pro Bowl quarterback and lining up opposite of a guy who was consistently double covered. Maybe. I don't know.
Also he has a ponytail.
Bored at work, I looked back to this discussion between Ivy and SKO, still makes me laugh. Well done.
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6660.msg189067#msg189067
Fairly puffy but I enjoyed this just because I love Peanut.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-25-bears-tillman-chicago-sep25,0,3094224.story
Fuck yourself, Crozier.
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Fairly puffy but I enjoyed this just because I love Peanut.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-25-bears-tillman-chicago-sep25,0,3094224.story
Fuck yourself, Crozier Paul.
2005 solo-cast'd
Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 25, 2009, 02:00:01 PM
Fairly puffy but I enjoyed this just because I love Peanut.
Fuck yourself, Huebiter!
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Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 25, 2009, 02:00:01 PM
Fairly puffy but I enjoyed this just because I love Peanut.
Fuck yourself, Huebiter!
Does this anger the ANGER?
Many apologies, Huard - I wasn't trying to numb up your arms with this post.
Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 25, 2009, 02:09:17 PM
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Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 25, 2009, 02:00:01 PM
Fairly puffy but I enjoyed this just because I love Peanut.
Fuck yourself, Huebiter!
Does this anger the ANGER?
Many apologies, Huard - I wasn't trying to numb up your arms with this post.
Apparently Huey long ago decided (http://www.desipio.com/?p=364#comment-6537) that "P'nut" is the One True Spelling of the nickname Tillman's aunt gave him when he was an infant (because he resembled a legume of the same name), and in his mighty pankitude will accept no other alternatives, even if that means we confuse Tillman with the bassist from 311 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-Nut) or the original Midi Horn Madman (http://www.satisfiedproductions.com/pnut/).
("He's hip-hop, bro.")
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 25, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
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Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 25, 2009, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 25, 2009, 02:00:01 PM
Fairly puffy but I enjoyed this just because I love Peanut.
Fuck yourself, Huebiter!
Does this anger the ANGER?
Many apologies, Huard - I wasn't trying to numb up your arms with this post.
Apparently Huey long ago decided (http://www.desipio.com/?p=364#comment-6537) that "P'nut" is the One True Spelling of the nickname Tillman's aunt gave him when he was an infant (because he resembled a legume of the same name), and in his mighty pankitude will accept no other alternatives, even if that means we confuse Tillman with the bassist from 311 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-Nut) or the original Midi Horn Madman (http://www.satisfiedproductions.com/pnut/).
("He's hip-hop, bro.")
Isn't Tillman Apex's 3rd cousin?
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
I thought his momma called him Cassius...
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Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
I thought his momma called him Cassius...
I said BIG momma.
His momma call him Clay.
A few years ago, a SCORE reporter pointed out that Tillman went up to a beat writer to complain that it's spelled P'Nut, not Peanut. As Charles Tillman is arguably the best cornerback I've seen play for the Bears (and yes, fuck you, BC, you football-retarded dipshit), I am more than happy to oblige the man.
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Who better to imitate 'how black people talk' than a middle-aged Chicago mick in a bike helmet?
Clearly Huey's been watching his Tyler Perry.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 25, 2009, 03:11:14 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Who better to imitate 'how black people talk' than a middle-aged Chicago mick in a bike helmet?
Clearly Huey's been watching his Tyler Perry.
Did you just say that to prove that there are black guys named Tyler?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 25, 2009, 03:11:14 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Who better to imitate 'how black people talk' than a middle-aged Chicago mick in a bike helmet?
Clearly Huey's been watching his Tyler Perry.
Black folks ride their bikes like this! And white folks ride their bikes like
this!
Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 25, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
Black folks ride their bikes like this!
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2i9qw5c.jpg)
I like Tillman.
Nice of the Seahags to break out the pajama tops today.
Nice of Helen to knock Tillman off that tackle.
I still hate this team's secondary.
Another bad snap? At some point, shouldn't we start to look at Olin Kreutz as the cause?
I guess it's possible for the Bears to have played a worse game so far, but it's pushing the edge of my imagination.
13-0 is still workable...but this has been brutal so far.
Genius call--a pass to get you first and goal at the 10 instead of a QB sneak to get you first and 10 at the 13.
This team is being coached by a bunch of fucking retards, and being played by a bunch of incompetents*. Holy shit this team is awful right now.
*You'd think there would be a page in the RB training manual that says "don't stretch for a TD when you're held up and vulnerable somewhere inside the 3, because a fumble is likely," and that'd be taught to RB's--but Forte and the Bears got bailed out of a very poor decision, and I'm not sure what evidence there was to bail Forte out.
This game is still winnable at 13-0, but I feel like it may also ride on this 4th down.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 27, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
Genius call--a pass to get you first and goal at the 10 instead of a QB sneak to get you first and 10 at the 13.
This team is being coached by a bunch of fucking retards, and being played by a bunch of incompetents. Holy shit this team is awful right now.
Then quit watching and STFU?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 27, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
Genius call--a pass to get you first and goal at the 10 instead of a QB sneak to get you first and 10 at the 13.
This team is being coached by a bunch of fucking retards, and being played by a bunch of incompetents*. Holy shit this team is awful right now.
*You'd think there would be a page in the RB training manual that says "don't stretch for a TD when you're held up and vulnerable somewhere inside the 3, because a fumble is likely," and that'd be taught to RB's--but Forte and the Bears got bailed out of a very poor decision, and I'm not sure what evidence there was to bail Forte out.
This game is still winnable at 13-0, but I feel like it may also ride on this 4th down.
I totally hate it when players try their hardest to get the ball into the end zone and score points for the team that I'm rooting for. What a cocksac.
Quote from: TDubbs on September 27, 2009, 04:33:44 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 27, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
Genius call--a pass to get you first and goal at the 10 instead of a QB sneak to get you first and 10 at the 13.
This team is being coached by a bunch of fucking retards, and being played by a bunch of incompetents*. Holy shit this team is awful right now.
*You'd think there would be a page in the RB training manual that says "don't stretch for a TD when you're held up and vulnerable somewhere inside the 3, because a fumble is likely," and that'd be taught to RB's--but Forte and the Bears got bailed out of a very poor decision, and I'm not sure what evidence there was to bail Forte out.
This game is still winnable at 13-0, but I feel like it may also ride on this 4th down.
I totally hate it when players try their hardest to get the ball into the end zone and score points for the team that I'm rooting for. What a cocksac.
I totally hate it when players put the ball in a very vulnerable position and severely increase the risk of turning the ball over when they aren't 100% certain they're going to score and then take points off the board by turning the ball over.
More like Douchemandzadeh, am I right?
Clutch missed field goals are gonna be this season's special teams MVP.
Plenty of time to win it, but the Bears should have a 10+ point lead right now...Guh.
It seems to me we're just going to have to deal with a shakier Utler when on the road.
Great start to this drive though. Need 3.
Nice run by Orange Jebus as I type.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Oh, and fuck Pittsburgh.
Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 27, 2009, 06:01:41 PM
It seems to me we're just going to have to deal with a shakier Utler when on the road.
I don't feel like Jake has been shaky this game. The o-line has looked pretty crappy and the
play calling has made me sad, but for the most part I thought Utler's passing was solid.
Of course, if you'd just listen to BC you'd realize that the secondary is the reason that the
Bears are 0-3.
Quote from: Pre on September 27, 2009, 06:27:19 PM
Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 27, 2009, 06:01:41 PM
It seems to me we're just going to have to deal with a shakier Utler when on the road.
I don't feel like Jake has been shaky this game. The o-line has looked pretty crappy and the
play calling has made me sad, but for the most part I thought Utler's passing was solid.
Of course, if you'd just listen to BC you'd realize that the secondary is the reason that the
Bears are 0-3.
I agree with you about the line...good point.
How about these receivers? That move by Hard Knox on his touchdown was pretty filthy. He was on fast forward after that catch.
I don't care what you assholes say, I like this Cutler fella.
Quote from: Trinew: The Boiler on September 27, 2009, 06:37:55 PM
That move by Hard Knox on his touchdown was pretty filthy. He was on fast forward after that catch.
He was so fast that he was in the end zone before the first of my curse words for him
giving up the 1st down to try and get around the edge was formed in my mouth.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 27, 2009, 06:59:19 PM
I don't care what you assholes say, I like this Cutler fella.
You would.
Need I remind you idiots that the very QB we traded for Jake Utler is UNDEFEATED this year?
Is it me or was Nick Roach better at middle linebacker than Hillenmeyer.
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 27, 2009, 08:06:49 PM
Is it me or was Nick Roach better at middle linebacker than Hillenmeyer.
It wasn't just you. Not to be a dick or anything but I'm glad Helen got hurt. It was getting a bit tiresome watching him get ground into Summer's Eve itch powder on every running play ever. Roach brings speed and athleticism which they need with Urlacher out. Moving the defense around before the snap? I don't really know how good Urlacher ever was at that and that was all Helen was ever good for. He should go announce Vanderbilt games or coach their linebackers and leave my life forever.
I'm an idiot, so you shouldn't really listen to me, but I wasn't really seeing all that much to complain about from Helen so far.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 27, 2009, 08:29:44 PM
I'm an idiot, so you shouldn't really listen to me, but I wasn't really seeing all that much to complain about from Helen so far.
It was hard to see him at all because he was usually being digested by one of the other team's interior O-Linemen. Or dropping back into a zone and covering nothing in particular.
I don't really have a problem with Hunter, but as far as I could tell Roach was somewhere around adequate. I'd just like Pisa back and then they can just shuffle in the three headed Willenmeyeroach monster at mike.
Jake Utler is the balls. The fact that the guy completed 78% of his passes, threw three touchdowns, skillfully evaded the pass rush all day, and calmly led the team on the game winning drive - and he's barely been mentioned in the discussion of yesterday's game because we already expect him to be this good...it's fun to finally have an 'uther 'uckin quarterback.
Also, Lance Briggs is playing like a manimal out there.
DPD. I generally don't have as much of a beef with Turner's play-calling as others here (with the exception of his strange obsession with that toss play that never, ever works). But why on Atheismo's stinking earth did Garrett Wolfe get three straight carries in the 4th quarter of an NFL game? Why was he even in the game at that point?
On the flip side, I really like what Lovie's doing with the defense this year. He's calling a shit ton of blitzes and I love it.
Quote from: R-V on September 28, 2009, 08:10:30 AM
DPD. I generally don't have as much of a beef with Turner's play-calling as others here (with the exception of his strange obsession with that toss play that never, ever works). But why on Atheismo's stinking earth did Garrett Wolfe get three straight carries in the 4th quarter of an NFL game? Why was he even in the game at that point?
On the flip side, I really like what Lovie's doing with the defense this year. He's calling a shit ton of blitzes and I love it.
I've been Turner's biggest defender (despite the mess he made of the Illinois football program) for years now, but he's been off his game so far this season. The offensive line is the main culprit for the team's failure to run the ball, but Turner's insistence on tosses and delayed handoffs hasn't helped. However, the Garrett Wolfe thing was due to Forte getting dinged up on the play before Wolfe came in, I believe. They got Forte back out there as soon as possible. Damn do I miss Kevin Jones.
DPD- Houshmandzadeh naturally deflected the blame (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/28/houshmandzadeh-fails-to-deliver-says-its-not-his-fault/) for his turd of a performance on his quarterback. "I was open all game," he said, per the Chicago Tribune. "They just didn't throw me the ball." Did the quarterback make you fumble, shithead?
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2009, 08:19:31 AM
DPD- Houshmandzadeh naturally deflected the blame (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/28/houshmandzadeh-fails-to-deliver-says-its-not-his-fault/) for his turd of a performance on his quarterback. "I was open all game," he said, per the Chicago Tribune. "They just didn't throw me the ball." Did the quarterback make you fumble, shithead?
Can we trade him for Bradley?
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 28, 2009, 08:10:30 AM
DPD. I generally don't have as much of a beef with Turner's play-calling as others here (with the exception of his strange obsession with that toss play that never, ever works). But why on Atheismo's stinking earth did Garrett Wolfe get three straight carries in the 4th quarter of an NFL game? Why was he even in the game at that point?
On the flip side, I really like what Lovie's doing with the defense this year. He's calling a shit ton of blitzes and I love it.
I've been Turner's biggest defender (despite the mess he made of the Illinois football program) for years now, but he's been off his game so far this season. The offensive line is the main culprit for the team's failure to run the ball, but Turner's insistence on tosses and delayed handoffs hasn't helped. However, the Garrett Wolfe thing was due to Forte getting dinged up on the play before Wolfe came in, I believe. They got Forte back out there as soon as possible. Damn do I miss Kevin Jones.
I was fine with the first two hand-offs to the little guy. But the third straight on third and short?
Quote from: R-V on September 28, 2009, 08:10:30 AM
DPD. I generally don't have as much of a beef with Turner's play-calling as others here (with the exception of his strange obsession with that toss play that never, ever works). But why on Atheismo's stinking earth did Garrett Wolfe get three straight carries in the 4th quarter of an NFL game? Why was he even in the game at that point?
On the flip side, I really like what Lovie's doing with the defense this year. He's calling a shit ton of blitzes and I love it.
I've liked Lovie's playcalling as well. Eventually, the pressure that Wallace was avoiding finally forced him into a critical mistake.
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 28, 2009, 08:10:30 AM
DPD. I generally don't have as much of a beef with Turner's play-calling as others here (with the exception of his strange obsession with that toss play that never, ever works). But why on Atheismo's stinking earth did Garrett Wolfe get three straight carries in the 4th quarter of an NFL game? Why was he even in the game at that point?
On the flip side, I really like what Lovie's doing with the defense this year. He's calling a shit ton of blitzes and I love it.
I've been Turner's biggest defender (despite the mess he made of the Illinois football program) for years now, but he's been off his game so far this season. The offensive line is the main culprit for the team's failure to run the ball, but Turner's insistence on tosses and delayed handoffs hasn't helped. However, the Garrett Wolfe thing was due to Forte getting dinged up on the play before Wolfe came in, I believe. They got Forte back out there as soon as possible. Damn do I miss Kevin Jones.
I think it's great that they're making an effort to give Forte more of a breather this season, but Peterson should get the call over Wolfe no matter the situation.
Quote from: R-V on September 28, 2009, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 28, 2009, 08:10:30 AM
DPD. I generally don't have as much of a beef with Turner's play-calling as others here (with the exception of his strange obsession with that toss play that never, ever works). But why on Atheismo's stinking earth did Garrett Wolfe get three straight carries in the 4th quarter of an NFL game? Why was he even in the game at that point?
On the flip side, I really like what Lovie's doing with the defense this year. He's calling a shit ton of blitzes and I love it.
I've been Turner's biggest defender (despite the mess he made of the Illinois football program) for years now, but he's been off his game so far this season. The offensive line is the main culprit for the team's failure to run the ball, but Turner's insistence on tosses and delayed handoffs hasn't helped. However, the Garrett Wolfe thing was due to Forte getting dinged up on the play before Wolfe came in, I believe. They got Forte back out there as soon as possible. Damn do I miss Kevin Jones.
I think it's great that they're making an effort to give Forte more of a breather this season, but Peterson should get the call over Wolfe no matter the situation.
This. Kevin Jones or no, OJ needs to be the No. 2 back.
Quote from: R-V on September 28, 2009, 08:05:07 AM
Jake Utler is the balls. The fact that the guy completed 78% of his passes, threw three touchdowns, skillfully evaded the pass rush all day, and calmly led the team on the game winning drive - and he's barely been mentioned in the discussion of yesterday's game because we already expect him to be this good...it's fun to finally have an 'uther 'uckin quarterback.
Also, Lance Briggs is playing like a manimal out there.
This.
I'll admit that I was dead wrong when I bitterly complained that Lovie was wasting a timeout on the challenge of the Forte fumble.
That said, I still can't believe they overturned it. It may have been the right call but I don't know how the evidence that was provided supported such a notion (conversely, had the call ont he field been down by contact, I also don't know how it could be overturned). Plus, as his "hope" challenge finally worked to his advantage, this will only embolden Lovie to recklessly challenge future calls where the empircal evidence would indicate you're a hope-chugging moron to do so. But hey, it worked yesterday, and probably saved their asses, so I'll shut up now.
And Lance Briggs is one bad ass muthafucker. He was like Ridgemont High's Jefferson out there.
Quote from: MAD on September 28, 2009, 11:35:36 AM
I'll admit that I was dead wrong when I bitterly complained that Lovie was wasting a timeout on the challenge of the Forte fumble.
That said, I still can't believe they overturned it. It may have been the right call but I don't know how the evidence that was provided supported such a notion (conversely, had the call ont he field been down by contact, I also don't know how it could be overturned). Plus, as his "hope" challenge finally worked to his advantage, this will only embolden Lovie to recklessly challenge future calls where the empircal evidence would indicate you're a hope-chugging moron to do so. But hey, it worked yesterday, and probably saved their asses, so I'll shut up now.
I feel like Lovie's got a better challenge philosophy than most. He's league average success
wise and he seems to understand that the best time to throw the flag is when a challenge
will have the biggest impact. There's a lot of coaches that throw the flag for a relatively
meaningless 5 yards here and there (and they aren't right that much more often). Challenge
when you can make the biggest difference and hope the mercurial NFL refs rule your way.
Worst case you burn a timeout after a big negative play and give your team time to refocus
for the next play.
Quote from: Pre on September 28, 2009, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 28, 2009, 11:35:36 AM
I'll admit that I was dead wrong when I bitterly complained that Lovie was wasting a timeout on the challenge of the Forte fumble.
That said, I still can't believe they overturned it. It may have been the right call but I don't know how the evidence that was provided supported such a notion (conversely, had the call ont he field been down by contact, I also don't know how it could be overturned). Plus, as his "hope" challenge finally worked to his advantage, this will only embolden Lovie to recklessly challenge future calls where the empircal evidence would indicate you're a hope-chugging moron to do so. But hey, it worked yesterday, and probably saved their asses, so I'll shut up now.
I feel like Lovie's got a better challenge philosophy than most. He's league average success
wise and he seems to understand that the best time to throw the flag is when a challenge
will have the biggest impact. There's a lot of coaches that throw the flag for a relatively
meaningless 5 yards here and there (and they aren't right that much more often). Challenge
when you can make the biggest difference and hope the mercurial NFL refs rule your way.
Worst case you burn a timeout after a big negative play and give your team time to refocus
for the next play.
But this flies in the face of everything that BC, the hoard of meat heads, The Huebiter and every talking neck on the radio has been saying for six years now. Can it be right?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 01:41:47 PM
Quote from: Pre on September 28, 2009, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: MAD on September 28, 2009, 11:35:36 AM
I'll admit that I was dead wrong when I bitterly complained that Lovie was wasting a timeout on the challenge of the Forte fumble.
That said, I still can't believe they overturned it. It may have been the right call but I don't know how the evidence that was provided supported such a notion (conversely, had the call ont he field been down by contact, I also don't know how it could be overturned). Plus, as his "hope" challenge finally worked to his advantage, this will only embolden Lovie to recklessly challenge future calls where the empircal evidence would indicate you're a hope-chugging moron to do so. But hey, it worked yesterday, and probably saved their asses, so I'll shut up now.
I feel like Lovie's got a better challenge philosophy than most. He's league average success
wise and he seems to understand that the best time to throw the flag is when a challenge
will have the biggest impact. There's a lot of coaches that throw the flag for a relatively
meaningless 5 yards here and there (and they aren't right that much more often). Challenge
when you can make the biggest difference and hope the mercurial NFL refs rule your way.
Worst case you burn a timeout after a big negative play and give your team time to refocus
for the next play.
But this flies in the face of everything that BC, the hoard of meat heads, The Huebiter and every talking neck on the radio has been saying for six years now. Can it be right?
I'm with Pre, at least on this challenge.
It was worth trading one challenge and the possibility of losing a timeout (the latter, in particular, considering the time left in the half) for a solid shot at 7 points instead of a loss of possession, especially given that the challenge was a fairly close call.
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
Honestly, the secondary really doesn't look any better than I feared it would, the linebacker depth has taken a hit, and yet they've only given up 17 ppg. Lovie's doing an outstanding job, and with 6 sacks and the constant pressure the defensive line has applied, I'd have to say Marinelli's been as good as advertised so far. I'd just love this team to get a back up runningback who isn't Garrett Wolfe or Orange Jebus.
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2009, 04:25:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
Honestly, the secondary really doesn't look any better than I feared it would, the linebacker depth has taken a hit, and yet they've only given up 17 ppg. Lovie's doing an outstanding job, and with 6 sacks and the constant pressure the defensive line has applied, I'd have to say Marinelli's been as good as advertised so far. I'd just love this team to get a back up runningback who isn't Garrett Wolfe or Orange Jebus.
Apex is going to feed your blood to #29's dreads.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Thanks for repeating yourself...
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192607#msg192607
Ready to be told to get fucked again?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Okay...so what you're saying is you'd rather the Bears have 1st and 10 from the 13, because it gives them a chance to get a first down.... if they get 10 yards, but you'd rather they not have a first and goal from the 8, because they then have to get a touchdown by going....8 yards. You are a football sage.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
If that's dumb, then having a strategy where you plan on your offense needing 8 downs to go 13 yards against Seattke is submoronic.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
I'm beginning to think that you are an Internet hoax.
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2009, 07:26:52 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Okay...so what you're saying is you'd rather the Bears have 1st and 10 from the 13, because it gives them a chance to get a first down.... if they get 10 yards, but you'd rather they not have a first and goal from the 8, because they then have to get a touchdown by going....8 yards. You are a football sage.
To be fair, I used to think the same thing...when I was like 13. I used to get pissed off when someone would get tackled at the 8 or 9. I would think, "Couldn't they just take the ball a couple of yards further away so they get a 1st and ten?" So, there you go. A 13-year old Oleg agrees with you.
I liked the challenge, the timeout there doesn't matter a ton and watching the play live I thought Forte was down... The only negative of that particular challenge is that the Bears would only have had one more challenge if the call were confirmed.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
A good offense with a QB the caliber of Cutler shouldn't have to worry about first and goal from the 8 to the extent of what you are describing here.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 01:43:06 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Thanks for repeating yourself...
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192607#msg192607
Ready to be told to get fucked again?
Wow. This was a bit harsh.
I blame falling asleep on the couch and waking up to Andy Dick on my TV for putting me in a foul mood.
Here's the argument against this in statfag terms...
http://wp.advancednflstats.com/winprobcalc1.php
With 4:08 remaining in the 2nd quarter...
First and 10 on your opponent's 13:
Expected Points: +4.5
First Down Prob: 0.67
TD Prob: 0.54
FG Prob: 0.33
First and goal on your opponent's 9:
Expected Points: +4.8
First Down Prob: 0.00
TD Prob: 0.60
FG Prob: 0.28
There's a positive expected return of 0.3 points on picking up those extra four yards in spite of your complaints.
This looks consistent with letting your players do what they're paid to do: advancing the ball as far down the field as they can.
And this is just based on the actual outcome of that play versus your preferred scenario, without factoring in the possibility that Olsen breaks that pass for a few more yards or even a touchdown.
For shits and giggles, here's the expected points swing on Lovie's challenge...
Third and goal on the opponent's 1 with 2:23 remaining in the half:
Expected Points: +5.3
First Down Prob: 0.00
TD Prob: 0.52
FG Prob: 0.37
Opponent first and 10 pinned at their own 2:
Expected Points: -0.7
First Down Prob: 0.67
TD Prob: 0.11
FG Prob: 0.05
That's -0.7 expected points to Seattke, or 0.7 to the Bears, for a 4.6 point swing in the Bears' favor on the overturning of the fumble.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 01:43:06 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Thanks for repeating yourself...
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192607#msg192607
Ready to be told to get fucked again?
Wow. This was a bit harsh.
I blame falling asleep on the couch and waking up to Andy Dick on my TV for putting me in a foul mood.
Here's the argument against this in statfag terms...
http://wp.advancednflstats.com/winprobcalc1.php
With 4:08 remaining in the 2nd quarter...
First and 10 on your opponent's 13:
Expected Points: +4.5
First Down Prob: 0.67
TD Prob: 0.54
FG Prob: 0.33
First and goal on your opponent's 9:
Expected Points: +4.8
First Down Prob: 0.00
TD Prob: 0.60
FG Prob: 0.28
There's a positive expected return of 0.3 points on picking up those extra four yards in spite of your complaints.
This looks consistent with letting your players do what they're paid to do: advancing the ball as far down the field as they can.
And this is just based on the actual outcome of that play versus your preferred scenario, without factoring in the possibility that Olsen breaks that pass for a few more yards or even a touchdown.
For shits and giggles, here's the expected points swing on Lovie's challenge...
Third and goal on the opponent's 1 with 2:23 remaining in the half:
Expected Points: +5.3
First Down Prob: 0.00
TD Prob: 0.52
FG Prob: 0.37
Opponent first and 10 pinned at their own 2:
Expected Points: -0.7
First Down Prob: 0.67
TD Prob: 0.11
FG Prob: 0.05
That's -0.7 expected points to Seattke, or 0.7 to the Bears, for a 4.6 point swing in the Bears' favor on the overturning of the fumble.
Statfaggotry always wins.
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2009, 07:26:52 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Okay...so what you're saying is you'd rather the Bears have 1st and 10 from the 13, because it gives them a chance to get a first down.... if they get 10 yards, but you'd rather they not have a first and goal from the 8, because they then have to get a touchdown by going....8 yards. You are a football sage.
That whole first & goal thing. It leads to stupid shit, like running backs reaching for the goal line out of desperation without the calming presence of an orange first down marker to assuage them. DOOOOM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 29, 2009, 09:20:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2009, 07:26:52 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Okay...so what you're saying is you'd rather the Bears have 1st and 10 from the 13, because it gives them a chance to get a first down.... if they get 10 yards, but you'd rather they not have a first and goal from the 8, because they then have to get a touchdown by going....8 yards. You are a football sage.
That whole first & goal thing. It leads to stupid shit, like running backs reaching for the goal line out of desperation without the calming presence of an orange first down marker to assuage them. DOOOOM
They get the first, then Utler runs back 10 yards and takes a knee. Gives him room to work.
Quote from: Fork on September 29, 2009, 09:27:43 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 29, 2009, 09:20:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2009, 07:26:52 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Okay...so what you're saying is you'd rather the Bears have 1st and 10 from the 13, because it gives them a chance to get a first down.... if they get 10 yards, but you'd rather they not have a first and goal from the 8, because they then have to get a touchdown by going....8 yards. You are a football sage.
That whole first & goal thing. It leads to stupid shit, like running backs reaching for the goal line out of desperation without the calming presence of an orange first down marker to assuage them. DOOOOM
They get the first, then Utler runs back 10 yards and takes a knee. Gives him room to work.
And the security of knowing that he can get yet another first down.
Quote from: IrishYeti on September 29, 2009, 09:15:42 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 01:43:06 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Thanks for repeating yourself...
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192607#msg192607
Ready to be told to get fucked again?
Wow. This was a bit harsh.
I blame falling asleep on the couch and waking up to Andy Dick on my TV for putting me in a foul mood.
Here's the argument against this in statfag terms...
http://wp.advancednflstats.com/winprobcalc1.php
With 4:08 remaining in the 2nd quarter...
First and 10 on your opponent's 13:
Expected Points: +4.5
First Down Prob: 0.67
TD Prob: 0.54
FG Prob: 0.33
First and goal on your opponent's 9:
Expected Points: +4.8
First Down Prob: 0.00
TD Prob: 0.60
FG Prob: 0.28
There's a positive expected return of 0.3 points on picking up those extra four yards in spite of your complaints.
This looks consistent with letting your players do what they're paid to do: advancing the ball as far down the field as they can.
And this is just based on the actual outcome of that play versus your preferred scenario, without factoring in the possibility that Olsen breaks that pass for a few more yards or even a touchdown.
For shits and giggles, here's the expected points swing on Lovie's challenge...
Third and goal on the opponent's 1 with 2:23 remaining in the half:
Expected Points: +5.3
First Down Prob: 0.00
TD Prob: 0.52
FG Prob: 0.37
Opponent first and 10 pinned at their own 2:
Expected Points: -0.7
First Down Prob: 0.67
TD Prob: 0.11
FG Prob: 0.05
That's -0.7 expected points to Seattke, or 0.7 to the Bears, for a 4.6 point swing in the Bears' favor on the overturning of the fumble.
Statfaggotry always wins.
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 29, 2009, 09:29:21 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 29, 2009, 09:27:43 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 29, 2009, 09:20:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2009, 07:26:52 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2009, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Lovie's doing a good job coaching the D. Marinelli has been good so far. The challenge thing... meh. But Garrett Wolfe? That's my only bitch from yesterday.
My big bitch from yesterday comes from the 3rd and inches call on the series prior to the challenge.
Cutler could've easily got a first down w/ a sneak. That leaves you 1st and 10 from the 13, with a first and goal possibility inside the 3. Instead, you throw the quick hit to Olsen for the first, but he catches it at the 10 and realistically doesn't get much, if any further. So, you have the worst possible first and goal ever. If you gave me two choices: first and 10 from the 11-15, or first and goal from the 8-10, I'd choose the former every time, since the possibility of another first down makes short-to-medium gains on first and second down worth a lot more.
Had things played out as they did--but with the Bears starting 1st and 10 from the 13, Forte wouldn't have needed to make the retarded "hope" stretch play where every defender around the goal line is looking to strip the ball out of a helpless, stretched out RB's hands. He would've had the first down, could've gone down without risking the ball, and the Bears would've been in much better position.
I'd also be willing to bet that 80%+ of fumbles inside the 2 come from RB's who have momentum stopped, but are trying to stretch to the goal line. It's just not a good play unless you're 100% going to make it.
But in the original 3rd and inches play, either get your inches, or get past the seven or eight. Calling a play that gets you between the 8 and 10 is just dumb.
Okay...so what you're saying is you'd rather the Bears have 1st and 10 from the 13, because it gives them a chance to get a first down.... if they get 10 yards, but you'd rather they not have a first and goal from the 8, because they then have to get a touchdown by going....8 yards. You are a football sage.
That whole first & goal thing. It leads to stupid shit, like running backs reaching for the goal line out of desperation without the calming presence of an orange first down marker to assuage them. DOOOOM
They get the first, then Utler runs back 10 yards and takes a knee. Gives him room to work.
And the security of knowing that he can get yet another first down.
CFiHP and Wannstache deserve one another.
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Maybe if the Bears were a high school team...
QuotePulaski hasn't punted since 2007 (when it did so as a gesture of sportsmanship in a lopsided game), and here's why: "The average punt in high school nets you 30 yards, but we convert around half our fourth downs, so it doesn't make sense to give up the ball..."
And in that case, Gould would be out, too.
/internet buzzkill
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 09:38:53 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Maybe if the Bears were a high school team...
QuotePulaski hasn't punted since 2007 (when it did so as a gesture of sportsmanship in a lopsided game), and here's why: "The average punt in high school nets you 30 yards, but we convert around half our fourth downs, so it doesn't make sense to give up the ball..."
And in that case, Gould would be out, too.
/internet buzzkill
Did you read the whole article?
"Much of Kelley's analysis has support among number crunchers. In 2005 David Romer, a prominent Cal economist, published a study that argued that over the course of the three NFL seasons he studied there had been 1,068 fourth-down situations in which teams, mathematically, would have been better off going for it. In all but 109 cases the teams either kicked or punted."
Not to be a dick or anything but I really hope Helen Huntermeyer stays on the sideline for an assload of games.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-29-bears-chicago-sep29,0,3695600.story
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 29, 2009, 09:48:06 AM
Not to be a dick or anything but I really hope Helen Huntermeyer stays on the sideline for an assload of games.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-29-bears-chicago-sep29,0,3695600.story
Your Hillenmeyer hate is impressive. I wouldn't mind having him at least able to play in a pinch, since the LB corps is fairly devastated unless Pisa comes back this week, but I'd rather have Roach in that spot as well.
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:47:01 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 09:38:53 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Maybe if the Bears were a high school team...
QuotePulaski hasn't punted since 2007 (when it did so as a gesture of sportsmanship in a lopsided game), and here's why: "The average punt in high school nets you 30 yards, but we convert around half our fourth downs, so it doesn't make sense to give up the ball..."
And in that case, Gould would be out, too.
/internet buzzkill
Did you read the whole article?
"Much of Kelley's analysis has support among number crunchers. In 2005 David Romer, a prominent Cal economist, published a study that argued that over the course of the three NFL seasons he studied there had been 1,068 fourth-down situations in which teams, mathematically, would have been better off going for it. In all but 109 cases the teams either kicked or punted."
I read that article a week or so ago. It was pretty awesome. A friend of mine is the special teams/DB coach at a rival school and he passed this idea along to his head coach. I do believe that they are actually considering moving to this. It would take a little analysis of their percentages but it's a great idea.
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:47:01 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 09:38:53 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Maybe if the Bears were a high school team...
QuotePulaski hasn't punted since 2007 (when it did so as a gesture of sportsmanship in a lopsided game), and here's why: "The average punt in high school nets you 30 yards, but we convert around half our fourth downs, so it doesn't make sense to give up the ball..."
And in that case, Gould would be out, too.
/internet buzzkill
Did you read the whole article?
"Much of Kelley's analysis has support among number crunchers. In 2005 David Romer, a prominent Cal economist, published a study that argued that over the course of the three NFL seasons he studied there had been 1,068 fourth-down situations in which teams, mathematically, would have been better off going for it. In all but 109 cases the teams either kicked or punted."
Yes I read the whole article. And that happy little stat leaves out an important number.
http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~dromer/papers/JPE_April06.pdf
QuoteOn the 1,604 fourth downs in the sample for which the analysis implies that teams are on average better off kicking, they went for it only nine times. But on the 1,068 fourth downs for which the analysis implies that teams are on average better off going for it, they kicked 959 times
His analysis says that, for all the fourth down situations he looked at between 1998 and 2000, the optimal strategy would have been to kick 1,604 times and to go for it 1,068 times.
So, even in Romer's Magical World of Numbers, NFL teams would still punt and attempt field goals 60% of the time...
QuoteOn the team's own half of the field, going for it is better on average if there is less than about 4 yards to go. After midfield, the gain from kicking falls, and so the critical value rises. It is 6.5 yards at the opponent's 45 and peaks at 9.8 on the opponent's 33. As the team gets into field goal range, the critical value falls rapidly; its lowest point is 4.0 yards on the 21. Thereafter, the value of kicking changes little while the value of going for it rises. As a result, the critical value rises again. The analysis implies that once a team reaches its opponent's 5, it is always better off on average going for it.
Also, he and his wife are dirty socialists (http://ls.berkeley.edu/?q=node/832).
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 10:34:19 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:47:01 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 09:38:53 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Maybe if the Bears were a high school team...
QuotePulaski hasn't punted since 2007 (when it did so as a gesture of sportsmanship in a lopsided game), and here's why: "The average punt in high school nets you 30 yards, but we convert around half our fourth downs, so it doesn't make sense to give up the ball..."
And in that case, Gould would be out, too.
/internet buzzkill
Did you read the whole article?
"Much of Kelley's analysis has support among number crunchers. In 2005 David Romer, a prominent Cal economist, published a study that argued that over the course of the three NFL seasons he studied there had been 1,068 fourth-down situations in which teams, mathematically, would have been better off going for it. In all but 109 cases the teams either kicked or punted."
Yes I read the whole article. And that happy little stat leaves out an important number.
http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~dromer/papers/JPE_April06.pdf
QuoteOn the 1,604 fourth downs in the sample for which the analysis implies that teams are on average better off kicking, they went for it only nine times. But on the 1,068 fourth downs for which the analysis implies that teams are on average better off going for it, they kicked 959 times
His analysis says that, for all the fourth down situations he looked at between 1998 and 2000, the optimal strategy would have been to kick 1,604 times and to go for it 1,068 times.
So, even in Romer's Magical World of Numbers, NFL teams would still punt and attempt field goals 60% of the time...
QuoteOn the team's own half of the field, going for it is better on average if there is less than about 4 yards to go. After midfield, the gain from kicking falls, and so the critical value rises. It is 6.5 yards at the opponent's 45 and peaks at 9.8 on the opponent's 33. As the team gets into field goal range, the critical value falls rapidly; its lowest point is 4.0 yards on the 21. Thereafter, the value of kicking changes little while the value of going for it rises. As a result, the critical value rises again. The analysis implies that once a team reaches its opponent's 5, it is always better off on average going for it.
Also, he and his wife are dirty socialists (http://ls.berkeley.edu/?q=node/832).
Screwing up football
and socialists.
Pure evil.
Quote from: BC on September 29, 2009, 07:48:25 AM
I liked the challenge, the timeout there doesn't matter a ton and watching the play live I thought Forte was down... The only negative of that particular challenge is that the Bears would only have had one more challenge if the call were confirmed.
Also, if it was overturned. Unless you're preemptively upset over the loss at a chance of getting a third challenge? You're really quite ridiculous.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on September 29, 2009, 11:06:57 AM
Quote from: BC on September 29, 2009, 07:48:25 AM
I liked the challenge, the timeout there doesn't matter a ton and watching the play live I thought Forte was down... The only negative of that particular challenge is that the Bears would only have had one more challenge if the call were confirmed.
Also, if it was overturned. Unless you're preemptively upset over the loss at a chance of getting a third challenge? You're really quite ridiculous.
But he graduated from college, man.
Just want to add the extra buzzkill that the point of Romer's paper was not necessarily to come up with The Ultimate Dialectically Perfect Socialist People's Historical Materialist Football Strategy.
Rather, the point was to analyze conservative, sub-optimal decision-making on the gridiron as a way of illustrating complications to the "central assumption of most economic models" that "firms maximize expected profits."
QuoteThis paper shows that the behavior of National Football League teams on fourth downs departs from the behavior that would maximize their chances of winning in a way that is highly systematic, clear-cut, and statistically significant. This is true even though the decisions are comparatively simple, the possibilities for learning and imitation are unusually large, the compensation for the coaches who make the decisions is extremely high, and the market for their services is intensively competitive. Despite these forces, the standard assumption that agents maximize simple objective functions fails to lead to reasonably accurate descriptions of behavior.
That's some straight up faggot shit right there.
The problem with these kinds of studies is that they ignore the fact that 4th down
plays don't exist in a vacuum. First off, much of NFL defensive strategy is predicated
on the fact that if you hold a team on 3rd down they are going to kick, this
frequently inflates the yardage on 3rd down when defenses give up the 4 yard check
down on 3rd and 8 or whatever. In this genius' math, he uses 3rd down results to
predict 4th down results. So the fact that defenses will usually let a team pick up
50 to 75% of 3rd and long influences his math to think that of course you go for it
on 4th down because you can get that 50 to 75% again.
The second thing these studies don't factor in is macro-game situations. Like if you're
up by 2 late in the game, maybe if you go for it and get it then you greatly increase
your chance to get 7 more points and winning by 9, where if you fail then you greatly
increase you chance of losing by 1. This is similar to all the anti-bunt numbers in
baseball. All of them use run probability to conclude that giving up the out lowers
your chance at a big inning. But in a lot of scenarios late in the game you don't need
a 7 run inning, you just need that 1 run, and you'll trade away the chance for a big
inning for a chance for 1.
Sure, some situations might call for more aggression on 4th down, but there's way too
many interconnected aspects of this to devolve it to a simple 'solve for x' kind of problem.
edit - Also, they don't factor in individual team's abilities. If you have a bad ass defense and
a horrific o-line, you're more likely to benefit from kicking/playing conservative on offense vs
if you have a fantastic o-line and bad defense.
Quote from: Pre on September 29, 2009, 11:23:50 AM
The problem with these kinds of studies is that they ignore the fact that 4th down
plays don't exist in a vacuum. First off, much of NFL defensive strategy is predicated
on the fact that if you hold a team on 3rd down they are going to kick, this
frequently inflates the yardage on 3rd down when defenses give up the 4 yard check
down on 3rd and 8 or whatever. In this genius' math, he uses 3rd down results to
predict 4th down results. So the fact that defenses will usually let a team pick up
50 to 75% of 3rd and long influences his math to think that of course you go for it
on 4th down because you can get that 50 to 75% again.
The second thing these studies don't factor in is macro-game situations. Like if you're
up by 2 late in the game, maybe if you go for it and get it then you greatly increase
your chance to get 7 more points and winning by 9, where if you fail then you greatly
increase you chance of losing by 1. This is similar to all the anti-bunt numbers in
baseball. All of them use run probability to conclude that giving up the out lowers
your chance at a big inning. But in a lot of scenarios late in the game you don't need
a 7 run inning, you just need that 1 run, and you'll trade away the chance for a big
inning for a chance for 1.
Sure, some situations might call for more aggression on 4th down, but there's way too
many interconnected aspects of this to devolve it to a simple 'solve for x' kind of problem.
Hmm. This.
Quote from: Pre on September 29, 2009, 11:23:50 AM
The problem with these kinds of studies is that they ignore the fact that 4th down
plays don't exist in a vacuum. First off, much of NFL defensive strategy is predicated
on the fact that if you hold a team on 3rd down they are going to kick, this
frequently inflates the yardage on 3rd down when defenses give up the 4 yard check
down on 3rd and 8 or whatever. In this genius' math, he uses 3rd down results to
predict 4th down results. So the fact that defenses will usually let a team pick up
50 to 75% of 3rd and long influences his math to think that of course you go for it
on 4th down because you can get that 50 to 75% again.
The second thing these studies don't factor in is macro-game situations. Like if you're
up by 2 late in the game, maybe if you go for it and get it then you greatly increase
your chance to get 7 more points and winning by 9, where if you fail then you greatly
increase you chance of losing by 1. This is similar to all the anti-bunt numbers in
baseball. All of them use run probability to conclude that giving up the out lowers
your chance at a big inning. But in a lot of scenarios late in the game you don't need
a 7 run inning, you just need that 1 run, and you'll trade away the chance for a big
inning for a chance for 1.
Sure, some situations might call for more aggression on 4th down, but there's way too
many interconnected aspects of this to devolve it to a simple 'solve for x' kind of problem.
edit - Also, they don't factor in individual team's abilities. If you have a bad ass defense and
a horrific o-line, you're more likely to benefit from kicking/playing conservative on offense vs
if you have a fantastic o-line and bad defense.
Well, yeah... As far as the football decisions involved here go, these are all baseline, average calculations. He's looking at a league-wide sample across 3 seasons and focusing only on fourth down situations in the first quarters of games.
If you were to try to apply this study practically on the field, you'd absolutely need to take into account game-, team- and situation-specific factors. And with football, far more than a game like baseball, strategic decisions on the part of the play callers is a huge factor, too.
He accounts for some of these variables in various ways, in part by simply bracketing them out:
QuoteBy describing the values of situations in terms of expected point differences, I am implicitly assuming that a team that wants to maximize its chances of winning should be risk-neutral over points scored. Although this is clearly not a good assumption late in a game, I show in Section IV that it is an excellent approximation for the early part. For that reason, I focus on the first quarter.
Focusing on the first quarter has a second advantage: it makes it reasonable to neglect effects involving the end of a half. Because play in the second quarter begins at the point where the first quarter ended, the value of a given situation in the first quarter almost certainly does not vary greatly with the time remaining.
But, again, Romer's purpose was not to draft a strategy guide for NFL football.
This was a paper on economics and the assumption that rational agents maximize choices.
(And I think the disparities between observed behavior and his analysis' recommendation of optimal behavior is big enough that his overall economic conclusions—that firms don't necessarily maximize outcomes the way simpler models assume, for reasons that may be unclear—probably remain valid or at least relevant, even if his baseline analysis is off the mark in many specific situations.)
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Pre on September 29, 2009, 11:23:50 AM
The problem with these kinds of studies is that they ignore the fact that 4th down
plays don't exist in a vacuum. First off, much of NFL defensive strategy is predicated
on the fact that if you hold a team on 3rd down they are going to kick, this
frequently inflates the yardage on 3rd down when defenses give up the 4 yard check
down on 3rd and 8 or whatever. In this genius' math, he uses 3rd down results to
predict 4th down results. So the fact that defenses will usually let a team pick up
50 to 75% of 3rd and long influences his math to think that of course you go for it
on 4th down because you can get that 50 to 75% again.
The second thing these studies don't factor in is macro-game situations. Like if you're
up by 2 late in the game, maybe if you go for it and get it then you greatly increase
your chance to get 7 more points and winning by 9, where if you fail then you greatly
increase you chance of losing by 1. This is similar to all the anti-bunt numbers in
baseball. All of them use run probability to conclude that giving up the out lowers
your chance at a big inning. But in a lot of scenarios late in the game you don't need
a 7 run inning, you just need that 1 run, and you'll trade away the chance for a big
inning for a chance for 1.
Sure, some situations might call for more aggression on 4th down, but there's way too
many interconnected aspects of this to devolve it to a simple 'solve for x' kind of problem.
edit - Also, they don't factor in individual team's abilities. If you have a bad ass defense and
a horrific o-line, you're more likely to benefit from kicking/playing conservative on offense vs
if you have a fantastic o-line and bad defense.
Well, yeah... As far as the football decisions involved here go, these are all baseline, average calculations. He's looking at a league-wide sample across 3 seasons and focusing only on fourth down situations in the first quarters of games.
If you were to try to apply this study practically on the field, you'd absolutely need to take into account game-, team- and situation-specific factors. And with football, far more than a game like baseball, strategic decisions on the part of the play callers is a huge factor, too.
He accounts for these variables in various ways, in part by simply bracketing some of them out:
QuoteBy describing the values of situations in terms of expected point differences, I am implicitly assuming that a team that wants to maximize its chances of winning should be risk-neutral over points scored. Although this is clearly not a good assumption late in a game, I show in Section IV that it is an excellent approximation for the early part. For that reason, I focus on the first quarter.
Focusing on the first quarter has a second advantage: it makes it reasonable to neglect effects involving the end of a half. Because play in the second quarter begins at the point where the first quarter ended, the value of a given situation in the first quarter almost certainly does not vary greatly with the time remaining.
But, again, Romer's purpose was not to draft a strategy guide for NFL football.
This was a paper on economics and the assumption that rational agents maximize choices.
(And I think the disparities between observed behavior and his analysis' recommendation of optimal behavior is big enough that his overall economic conclusions—that firms don't necessarily maximize outcomes the way simpler models assume, for reasons that may be unclear—probably remain valid or at least relevant, even if his baseline analysis is off the mark in many specific situations.)
But
where does the meat go?
I'm guessing Romer's paper came out of a masterplan in which he got grant money and used it to go to football games.
Quote from: Fork on September 29, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
I'm guessing Romer's paper came out of a masterplan in which he got grant money and used it to go to football games.
I disagree. He probably submitted it as a thesis and earned himself some worthless college degree.
Quote from: Fork on September 29, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
I'm guessing Romer's paper came out of a masterplan in which he got grant money and used it to go to football games.
Who do you think he is, Weebs?
Quote from: MAD on September 29, 2009, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 29, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
I'm guessing Romer's paper came out of a masterplan in which he got grant money and used it to go to football games.
Who do you think he is, Weebs?
No, because it didn't ruin football for anyone.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 08:47:22 AM
Wow. This was a bit harsh.
I blame falling asleep on the couch and waking up to Andy Dick on my TV for putting me in a foul mood.
Here's the argument against this in statfag terms...
http://wp.advancednflstats.com/winprobcalc1.php
With 4:08 remaining in the 2nd quarter...
First and 10 on your opponent's 13:
Expected Points: +4.5
First Down Prob: 0.67
TD Prob: 0.54
FG Prob: 0.33
First and goal on your opponent's 9:
Expected Points: +4.8
First Down Prob: 0.00
TD Prob: 0.60
FG Prob: 0.28
I'm not sure if this is due to rounding or not, but you left out the ultimate statistic that supports me: Win probability.
In the two scenarios:
1st and Goal at the 9: Win Probability: 0.25
1st and Ten at the 13: Win Probability: 0.26
What I'm not clear on is whether the TD probability is your odds of scoring a TD at any point in the future or on that series. Given that it breaks down 1st down and TD probability, I could see it being based on that series, not inclusive of other series. I think that this is right:
If you have a .67 chance of a first down, but a .54% chance of a TD, that leaves 13% of the times you're getting a first down without scoring.
If you then have First and goal from the 3 (worst case 1st down scenario--it only gets better), you have a 78% chance of scoring a TD. When you take that times the 13% of instances from the 13 you're getting a first down without scoring, you get an extra 10% chance of scoring a TD.
So your TD probability (maybe) from your own 13 is really .54 + .10 = .64.
That .04 difference is the only thing that I can think of to explain the win% discrepancy.
But if you want to get all statfaggy with it, at least include the probability that truly matters, even if it (ever so marginally) doesn't support your argument.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 30, 2009, 01:54:35 PM
What I'm not clear on is whether the TD probability is your odds of scoring a TD at any point in the future or on that series. Given that it breaks down 1st down and TD probability, I could see it being based on that series, not inclusive of other series. But I also could see it being the other way.
I'm almost certain it's the odds of
that drive going forward resulting in a touchdown.
That is: on average, drives end in touchdowns 60% of the time when an NFL team has to proceed from first and goal at its opponent's 9, and 54% of the time when it proceeds from first and 10 at its opponent's 13.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 30, 2009, 01:54:35 PM
But it's interesting that the scenario w/ the lower expected value of points has a higher overall win%. I'm not sure how to explain it, other than it's not including probabilities of a TD after you get a first down.
These probabilities are based on actual game data stretching back to 2000. It wouldn't shock me at all for there to be a few slightly unsmooth spots in the probability curves.
And the 1% difference is quite marginal, particularly when what you're talking about is the probability of winning/losing the entire game, as opposed to the probability of scoring on a single drive.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 30, 2009, 01:54:35 PM
But if you want to get all statfaggy with it, at least include the probability that truly matters, even if it (ever so marginally) doesn't support your argument.
The win probabilities take into account actual game situations (score, time, and so forth) and reflect probable
game outcomes, and thus reflect decisions and plays made later in the games in the sample (in this case, including the entire second half).
The scoring probabilities are generic (ignoring the clock and scoreboard), and reflect only (as far as I can tell) probable
drive outcomes, regardless of situation.
Considering the essence of your argument more or less boiled down to "a first down at your opponent's 13 yard line is,
generally speaking, better than a first down at their 9 yard line" (as opposed to, say, "a first down at your opponent's 13 is better than a first down at their 9
when you're down by 13 with around 4 minutes remaining in the first half"), I chose the generic probability.
Which probability suggests what most of us intuit: that getting closer to an opponent's goal line makes it
more likely that you'll score a touchdown on that drive.
Thanks to holding penalties and dead-ball unsportsmanlike and personal foul penalties, we had a game this year where a team went from first-and-goal at the nine to first-and-goal from their own 41 yard line in two plays. I wonder what the odds became at that point.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 30, 2009, 02:39:56 PM
The scoring probabilities are generic (ignoring the clock and scoreboard), and reflect only (as far as I can tell) probable drive outcomes, regardless of situation.
Considering the essence of your argument more or less boiled down to "a first down at your opponent's 13 yard line is, generally speaking, better than a first down at their 9 yard line" (as opposed to, say, "a first down at your opponent's 13 is better than a first down at their 9 when you're down by 13 with around 4 minutes remaining in the first half"), I chose the generic probability.
Which probability suggests what most of us intuit: that getting closer to an opponent's goal line makes it more likely that you'll score a touchdown on that drive.
Fair enough--the win probability could be noise, but it is a large sample size, which makes me think that it still could suggest something. I wonder if teams in 1st and long-goal situations are more prone to go for it on 4th down, which might go a long ways toward explaining the TD/FG differential (that almost lines up perfectly).
Let's simplify:
YOU WANT TO GET CLOSER TO THE GOAL LINE AND SCORE. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. HELLO.
?
Also, I wouldn't have been entirely confident in this team's ability to get the inside push for a QB sneak behind the diminished skills of Olin Kreutz. I was fine with the play call on the quick pass to Olsen.
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Yeah that's wonderful and great but when is he going to cheer up and stop being such a Gloomy Gus?
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 02, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Yeah that's wonderful and great but when is he going to cheer up and stop being such a Gloomy Gus?
I had Boers and Bernstein on the other day, and I'm not proud to admit that, but some guy called in and complained after the Seahawks game because Cutler only celebrated the TD to Hester with his linemen, and he didn't run screaming down the field and jump into Hester's arms like Favre does when he throws a touchdown pass. Jesus Christ, this fanbase doesn't deserve a quarterback.
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 02, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Yeah that's wonderful and great but when is he going to cheer up and stop being such a Gloomy Gus?
I had Boers and Bernstein on the other day, and I'm not proud to admit that, but some guy called in and complained after the Seahawks game because Cutler only celebrated the TD to Hester with his linemen, and he didn't run screaming down the field and jump into Hester's arms like Favre does when he throws a touchdown pass. Jesus Christ, this fanbase doesn't deserve a quarterback.
I thought it was some dumb broad who said that.
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 02, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 02, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Yeah that's wonderful and great but when is he going to cheer up and stop being such a Gloomy Gus?
I had Boers and Bernstein on the other day, and I'm not proud to admit that, but some guy called in and complained after the Seahawks game because Cutler only celebrated the TD to Hester with his linemen, and he didn't run screaming down the field and jump into Hester's arms like Favre does when he throws a touchdown pass. Jesus Christ, this fanbase doesn't deserve a quarterback.
I thought it was some dumb broad who said that.
It was, and it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world were she to walk in front of a CTA bus and stopped poisoning people she knows with her idiocy.
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 02, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 02, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Yeah that's wonderful and great but when is he going to cheer up and stop being such a Gloomy Gus?
I had Boers and Bernstein on the other day, and I'm not proud to admit that, but some guy called in and complained after the Seahawks game because Cutler only celebrated the TD to Hester with his linemen, and he didn't run screaming down the field and jump into Hester's arms like Favre does when he throws a touchdown pass. Jesus Christ, this fanbase doesn't deserve a quarterback.
I thought it was some dumb broad who said that.
It might have been. I just felt a white hot light in my head like it was a star about to go supernova. How can people really think that bullshit matters? How?
Quote from: MAD on October 02, 2009, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 02, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 02, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Yeah that's wonderful and great but when is he going to cheer up and stop being such a Gloomy Gus?
I had Boers and Bernstein on the other day, and I'm not proud to admit that, but some guy called in and complained after the Seahawks game because Cutler only celebrated the TD to Hester with his linemen, and he didn't run screaming down the field and jump into Hester's arms like Favre does when he throws a touchdown pass. Jesus Christ, this fanbase doesn't deserve a quarterback.
I thought it was some dumb broad who said that.
It was, and it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world were she to walk in front of a CTA bus and stopped poisoning people she knows with her idiocy.
You're suggesting she "get off at Granville"?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 02, 2009, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 02, 2009, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 02, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 02, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Yeah that's wonderful and great but when is he going to cheer up and stop being such a Gloomy Gus?
I had Boers and Bernstein on the other day, and I'm not proud to admit that, but some guy called in and complained after the Seahawks game because Cutler only celebrated the TD to Hester with his linemen, and he didn't run screaming down the field and jump into Hester's arms like Favre does when he throws a touchdown pass. Jesus Christ, this fanbase doesn't deserve a quarterback.
I thought it was some dumb broad who said that.
It was, and it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world were she to walk in front of a CTA bus and stopped poisoning people she knows with her idiocy.
You're suggesting she "get off at Granville"?
/taps nose with finger
Quote from: MAD on October 02, 2009, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 02, 2009, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 02, 2009, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 02, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 02, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 02, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just some statistics I found interesting from the blog on Chicago Bears.com-
-Since halftime against Green Bay, Cutler has the highest completion % (72.2), and he's third in tds and QB rating (110.4) since that point.
-Cutler's only the third Bears QB since 1970 to complete at least 70% of his passes in back to back games (Harbaugh and Miller) were the other two.
-His 64.4% and 253.3 ypg average would both be the highest in Bears history if he can keep it up.
And just one I looked up because I was curious
-If Cutler has another 100 or higher rating this game, he and McMahon would be the only two Bears QBs of the modern age (70s-Present) to have three 100+ games in a row.
Yeah that's wonderful and great but when is he going to cheer up and stop being such a Gloomy Gus?
I had Boers and Bernstein on the other day, and I'm not proud to admit that, but some guy called in and complained after the Seahawks game because Cutler only celebrated the TD to Hester with his linemen, and he didn't run screaming down the field and jump into Hester's arms like Favre does when he throws a touchdown pass. Jesus Christ, this fanbase doesn't deserve a quarterback.
I thought it was some dumb broad who said that.
It was, and it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world were she to walk in front of a CTA bus and stopped poisoning people she knows with her idiocy.
You're suggesting she "get off at Granville"?
/taps nose with finger
Time to start organizing a company halloween party.
That TD was for the meatheads.
Somebody should inform the defense that the game has started.
Who's this Tommie Harris guy? Haven't seen him since 2006. Nice play.
This offense is creamy. Beige.
Creamy.
Brian Billick is beyond brutal on color.
What's the obsession with the 2 timeouts the Lions had "in their pockets" on 3rd and 6 in the red zone with over a minute left in the half? He seemed surprised when they opted to burn some time off the clock.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 04, 2009, 01:45:04 PM
Brian Billick is beyond brutal on color.
What's the obsession with the 2 timeouts the Lions had "in their pockets" on 3rd and 6 in the red zone with over a minute left in the half? He seemed surprised when they opted to burn some time off the clock.
It's all about the emotional ebb and flow.
It's all about Johnny Knox.
and its all about Robbie Gould
My favorite Billickism so far was when he said that Olsen and Clark are Jay Cutler's #1 target.
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 04, 2009, 02:16:44 PM
My favorite Billickism so far was when he said that Olsen and Clark are Jay Cutler's #1 target.
I swear he said "embiggen" at some point.
Quote from: CT III on October 04, 2009, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 04, 2009, 02:16:44 PM
My favorite Billickism so far was when he said that Olsen and Clark are Jay Cutler's #1 target.
I swear he said "embiggen" at some point.
There were definitely a few times (been awhile, did I do that wrong again?) where he just trailed off in the middle of a sentence.
Quote from: CT III on October 04, 2009, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 04, 2009, 02:16:44 PM
My favorite Billickism so far was when he said that Olsen and Clark are Jay Cutler's #1 target.
I swear he said "embiggen" at some point.
What's the problem? It's a perfectly cromulent word.
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 04, 2009, 03:22:07 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 04, 2009, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 04, 2009, 02:16:44 PM
My favorite Billickism so far was when he said that Olsen and Clark are Jay Cutler's #1 target.
I swear he said "embiggen" at some point.
There were definitely a few times (been awhile, did I do that wrong again?) where he just trailed off in the middle of a sentence.
I enjoyed his attempts to pronounce "familiarity" without an L and "Pettigrew" without an R.
I liked Brian Billick during this game. Although, mainly it's because when Billick talks Thom Brennaman doesn't.
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 04, 2009, 12:54:08 PM
Who's this Tommie Harris guy? Haven't seen him since 2006. Nice play.
While it was nice to see that Tommie Boy still has outstanding athleticism for a big man, at the time of that play I felt the same way Andy did (http://www.desipio.com/?p=2440) when he wrote:
QuoteHey, for once, his inability to get any pressure on the QB turned out to be good!
I don't think there's a single Fox crew that's worth a damn. The number one crew of Aikman and Buck is just full of smarm, Stockton's senile, Billick and Brennaman suck horrible, horrible ass, and I can't even turn off the tv audio and listen to the radio because Joniak is completely clueless. The important thing is that I never really listen anyways, because they could just play the soundtrack to the Nuremburg rallies on loop during the game and it wouldn't take away from how awesome Jake Utlar and Company are (mostly Jake Utlar).
Quote from: MAD on October 05, 2009, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 04, 2009, 12:54:08 PM
Who's this Tommie Harris guy? Haven't seen him since 2006. Nice play.
While it was nice to see that Tommie Boy still has outstanding athleticism for a big man, at the time of that play I felt the same way Andy did (http://www.desipio.com/?p=2440) when he wrote:
QuoteHey, for once, his inability to get any pressure on the QB turned out to be good!
I personally think Tommie's done a decent job this year. He's not the '06 Tommie, but he consistently draws double teams that have helped to free up Ogunleye and Brown. I approve.
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2009, 09:22:59 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 05, 2009, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 04, 2009, 12:54:08 PM
Who's this Tommie Harris guy? Haven't seen him since 2006. Nice play.
While it was nice to see that Tommie Boy still has outstanding athleticism for a big man, at the time of that play I felt the same way Andy did (http://www.desipio.com/?p=2440) when he wrote:
QuoteHey, for once, his inability to get any pressure on the QB turned out to be good!
I personally think Tommie's done a decent job this year. He's not the '06 Tommie, but he consistently draws double teams that have helped to free up Ogunleye and Brown. I approve.
Instead of the Human Tornado, he's the Quiet Storm?
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2009, 09:22:59 AM
I don't think there's a single Fox crew that's worth a damn. The number one crew of Aikman and Buck is just full of smarm, Stockton's senile, Billick and Brennaman suck horrible, horrible ass, and I can't even turn off the tv audio and listen to the radio because Joniak is completely clueless. The important thing is that I never really listen anyways, because they could just play the soundtrack to the Nuremburg rallies on loop during the game and it wouldn't take away from how awesome Jake Utlar and Company are (mostly Jake Utlar).
It actually makes me miss the days of Pat Summerall and Brian Baldinger.
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2009, 09:22:59 AM
I don't think there's a single Fox crew that's worth a damn. The number one crew of Aikman and Buck is just full of smarm,
Their fellating of Romo was awesome yesterday, especially considering there was no way in Hell the Cowboys were winning that game. Romo would Farve balls into coverage until either they went out on downs or Denver picked off to end it.
I haven't loved a QB as much as I love Romo since Jay Schroeder.
Quote from: BearsBearsBearsB... on October 04, 2009, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 04, 2009, 01:45:04 PM
Brian Billick is beyond brutal on color.
What's the obsession with the 2 timeouts the Lions had "in their pockets" on 3rd and 6 in the red zone with over a minute left in the half? He seemed surprised when they opted to burn some time off the clock.
It's all about the emotional ebb and flow.
We started drinking every time he said "emotion." The beer flowed quickly.
Kissing Suzy Kolber comes through again.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif)
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 05, 2009, 11:33:04 AM
Kissing Suzy Kolber comes through again.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif)
Thank you
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 05, 2009, 11:33:04 AM
Kissing Suzy Kolber comes through again.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif)
Thank you
And thank
you for adopting a 1.4 MB image as your avatar, thus displaying it on every page you post on.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 05, 2009, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 05, 2009, 11:33:04 AM
Kissing Suzy Kolber comes through again.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif)
Thank you
And thank you for adopting a 1.4 MB image as your avatar, thus displaying it on every page you post on.
It's 1.4 MB? That, I didn't know. If it's costing Dolan money, it'll leave. If not, then I might leave it up to piss you off
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:29:33 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 05, 2009, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 05, 2009, 11:33:04 AM
Kissing Suzy Kolber comes through again.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif)
Thank you
And thank you for adopting a 1.4 MB image as your avatar, thus displaying it on every page you post on.
It's 1.4 MB? That, I didn't know. If it's costing Dolan money, it'll leave. If not, then I might leave it up to piss you off
And, I'm just going to post so that Tank can see it yet again.
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:29:33 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 05, 2009, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 05, 2009, 11:33:04 AM
Kissing Suzy Kolber comes through again.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif)
Thank you
And thank you for adopting a 1.4 MB image as your avatar, thus displaying it on every page you post on.
It's 1.4 MB? That, I didn't know. If it's costing Dolan money, it'll leave. If not, then I might leave it up to piss you off
It's not costing Dolan anything, as it's not on his server.
It just slows down the page load on anyone's computer who doesn't already have the animated gif cached.
Really, though, 1.4 MB isn't all that bad. Chad's old avatar was over 3 MB.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 05, 2009, 12:46:54 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:29:33 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 05, 2009, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 05, 2009, 11:33:04 AM
Kissing Suzy Kolber comes through again.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif)
Thank you
And thank you for adopting a 1.4 MB image as your avatar, thus displaying it on every page you post on.
It's 1.4 MB? That, I didn't know. If it's costing Dolan money, it'll leave. If not, then I might leave it up to piss you off
It's not costing Dolan anything, as it's not on his server.
It just slows down the page load on anyone's computer who doesn't already have the animated gif cached.
Really, though, 1.4 MB isn't all that bad. Chad's old avatar was over 3 MB.
Suck it AVATAR!
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on October 05, 2009, 12:53:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 05, 2009, 12:46:54 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:29:33 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 05, 2009, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 05, 2009, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 05, 2009, 11:33:04 AM
Kissing Suzy Kolber comes through again.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif)
Thank you
And thank you for adopting a 1.4 MB image as your avatar, thus displaying it on every page you post on.
It's 1.4 MB? That, I didn't know. If it's costing Dolan money, it'll leave. If not, then I might leave it up to piss you off
It's not costing Dolan anything, as it's not on his server.
It just slows down the page load on anyone's computer who doesn't already have the animated gif cached.
Really, though, 1.4 MB isn't all that bad. Chad's old avatar was over 3 MB.
Suck it AVATAR!
Suddenly, I have a desire for some orange-looking Jack Daniels.
Meh. The days of paying per MB are long gone. My GoDaddy server charges are smaller than Danica's bewbies.
Quote from: Andy on October 05, 2009, 04:42:17 PM
Meh. The days of paying per MB are long gone. My GoDaddy server charges are smaller than Danica's bewbies.
So they pay you to be on the GoDaddy servers?
Quote from: BC on October 05, 2009, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: Andy on October 05, 2009, 04:42:17 PM
Meh. The days of paying per MB are long gone. My GoDaddy server charges are smaller than Danica's bewbies.
So they pay you to be on the GoDaddy servers?
...Awful. Just awful. Anywho, here's a nice break down of the Bears zone blitz http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Scheme-session-the-zone-blitz.html
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Indeed.
While one can make the case for Cutler using fancy football fagmetrics, that play did as much to prove what a stud QB he is, as it was third down and the Bears really could have used a tocuhdown there.
Also, how many touchdowns has this guy created on third (and fourth) and goal? That's at least 4--both Pissburgh touchdowns came on third down also. Throw in the winning TD against Seattke that many of the previous slapdick QB's would have settled for a FG on, allowing the Seahawks to come back and win, and we're looking at a real goddamn scoring machine.
SPLOOGE.
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Indeed.
While one can make the case for Cutler using fancy football fagmetrics, that play did as much to prove what a stud QB he is, as it was third down and the Bears really could have used a tocuhdown there.
Also, how many touchdowns has this guy created on third (and fourth) and goal? That's at least 4--both Pissburgh touchdowns came on third down also. Throw in the winning TD against Seattke that many of the previous slapdick QB's would have settled for a FG on, allowing the Seahawks to come back and win, and we're looking at a real goddamn scoring machine.
SPLOOGE.
3 td passes and 1 td run on 3rd down, 2 touchdown passes on 4th down. So 6 of his 9 tds.
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Indeed.
While one can make the case for Cutler using fancy football fagmetrics, that play did as much to prove what a stud QB he is, as it was third down and the Bears really could have used a tocuhdown there.
Also, how many touchdowns has this guy created on third (and fourth) and goal? That's at least 4--both Pissburgh touchdowns came on third down also. Throw in the winning TD against Seattke that many of the previous slapdick QB's would have settled for a FG on, allowing the Seahawks to come back and win, and we're looking at a real goddamn scoring machine.
SPLOOGE.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 04, 2009, 12:20:47 PM
That TD was for the meatheadsHueys.
McSwirski'd
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 06, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Indeed.
While one can make the case for Cutler using fancy football fagmetrics, that play did as much to prove what a stud QB he is, as it was third down and the Bears really could have used a tocuhdown there.
Also, how many touchdowns has this guy created on third (and fourth) and goal? That's at least 4--both Pissburgh touchdowns came on third down also. Throw in the winning TD against Seattke that many of the previous slapdick QB's would have settled for a FG on, allowing the Seahawks to come back and win, and we're looking at a real goddamn scoring machine.
SPLOOGE.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 04, 2009, 12:20:47 PM
That TD was for the meatheadsHueys.
McSwirski'd
Believe me, I had no qualms about sticking my inner meatball out on that play.
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 06, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Indeed.
While one can make the case for Cutler using fancy football fagmetrics, that play did as much to prove what a stud QB he is, as it was third down and the Bears really could have used a tocuhdown there.
Also, how many touchdowns has this guy created on third (and fourth) and goal? That's at least 4--both Pissburgh touchdowns came on third down also. Throw in the winning TD against Seattke that many of the previous slapdick QB's would have settled for a FG on, allowing the Seahawks to come back and win, and we're looking at a real goddamn scoring machine.
SPLOOGE.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 04, 2009, 12:20:47 PM
That TD was for the meatheadsHueys.
McSwirski'd
Believe me, I had no qualms about sticking my inner meatball out on that play.
It was gritty. Gutty even. The guy can flat out compete. He just wants the ball and he just wants to play.
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 06, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Indeed.
While one can make the case for Cutler using fancy football fagmetrics, that play did as much to prove what a stud QB he is, as it was third down and the Bears really could have used a tocuhdown there.
Also, how many touchdowns has this guy created on third (and fourth) and goal? That's at least 4--both Pissburgh touchdowns came on third down also. Throw in the winning TD against Seattke that many of the previous slapdick QB's would have settled for a FG on, allowing the Seahawks to come back and win, and we're looking at a real goddamn scoring machine.
SPLOOGE.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 04, 2009, 12:20:47 PM
That TD was for the meatheadsHueys.
McSwirski'd
Believe me, I had no qualms about sticking my inner meatball out on that play.
That sounds beyond painful.
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 06, 2009, 09:51:45 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 06, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Indeed.
While one can make the case for Cutler using fancy football fagmetrics, that play did as much to prove what a stud QB he is, as it was third down and the Bears really could have used a tocuhdown there.
Also, how many touchdowns has this guy created on third (and fourth) and goal? That's at least 4--both Pissburgh touchdowns came on third down also. Throw in the winning TD against Seattke that many of the previous slapdick QB's would have settled for a FG on, allowing the Seahawks to come back and win, and we're looking at a real goddamn scoring machine.
SPLOOGE.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 04, 2009, 12:20:47 PM
That TD was for the meatheadsHueys.
McSwirski'd
Believe me, I had no qualms about sticking my inner meatball out on that play.
That sounds beyond painful.
And somewhat sexy too.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 06, 2009, 11:29:38 AM
Quote from: Mickey Nine: The Dream Weaver on October 06, 2009, 09:51:45 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 06, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 06, 2009, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Just because it looks awesome...
(http://i35.tinypic.com/o90kmx.jpg)
Indeed.
While one can make the case for Cutler using fancy football fagmetrics, that play did as much to prove what a stud QB he is, as it was third down and the Bears really could have used a tocuhdown there.
Also, how many touchdowns has this guy created on third (and fourth) and goal? That's at least 4--both Pissburgh touchdowns came on third down also. Throw in the winning TD against Seattke that many of the previous slapdick QB's would have settled for a FG on, allowing the Seahawks to come back and win, and we're looking at a real goddamn scoring machine.
SPLOOGE.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 04, 2009, 12:20:47 PM
That TD was for the meatheadsHueys.
McSwirski'd
Believe me, I had no qualms about sticking my inner meatball out on that play.
That sounds beyond painful.
And somewhat sexy too.
My inner meatball wouldn't move a muscle until he got up off the ground, the second time. It needed to make sure he wasn't broken. As soon as he got up from the fall, he was immediately knocked over by a teammate, delaying my reaction even further. Everybody in my section was screaming and going apeshit. People were trying to high five me and I just stood there staring at Utler until he got up and walked off with a toothy grin. I was too terrified to yell. But then, I'm a known pussy.
But then the scoreboard replayed that sumbitch from every angle they had and each shot was more glorious then the last. After about 4 or 5 the place was still up for grabs and they showed Jay sitting on the bench cheesing because he either knew he was a bad motherfucker or because he'd been caught checking himself out and enjoying the adulation. He gave us a little wave to let us know he heard us and I...
JIZZED IN MY PAAAAAANTS!!!!
This is the kind of thing that dickwhistles who think it's more fun not to go to games miss out on. That's fine with me if they want to stay home and annihilate their pud on the couch. But they're stupid and wrong.
http://www.lancewilkerson.com/lance-wilkerson-blog/2009/10/7/watch-my-cutler-profile-and-bonus-high-school-video.html (http://www.lancewilkerson.com/lance-wilkerson-blog/2009/10/7/watch-my-cutler-profile-and-bonus-high-school-video.html)
JAKE UTLER feature here.
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 08, 2009, 12:42:53 PM
http://www.lancewilkerson.com/lance-wilkerson-blog/2009/10/7/watch-my-cutler-profile-and-bonus-high-school-video.html (http://www.lancewilkerson.com/lance-wilkerson-blog/2009/10/7/watch-my-cutler-profile-and-bonus-high-school-video.html)
JAKE UTLER feature here.
Cool!
Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Quote from: BearsBearsBearsB... on October 15, 2009, 12:51:01 AM
Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
DPD- from Larry Mayer of Bears.com
QuoteIn my opinion, the chances of the Bears acquiring Terrell Owens from the Buffalo Bills before Tuesday's trade deadline are roughly the same as the Cubs and White Sox meeting in the World Series later this month. It's not going to happen. The Bears had zero interest in Owens when he was a free agent, so why would they cough up a draft pick or a player for him now, especially given how well young wide receivers Devin Hester, Earl Bennett and Johnny Knox have performed so far this season? Again, T.O. is not coming to the Bears. I think you can trace the rampant Internet rumors back to an item in Adam Schefter's column on ESPN.com that speculated about the possibility of the Bills trading Owens. The story mentioned that the Bears "could use a play-making wide receiver to help unseat the first-place Minnesota Vikings" and "might find it worthwhile to part with a mid-round pick for an offensive player that can help make a difference this season." Nowhere in that passage does it say that the Bears are even the least bit interested in Owens—and they're not.
Quote from: SKO on October 15, 2009, 07:22:35 AM
Quote from: BearsBearsBearsB... on October 15, 2009, 12:51:01 AM
Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2009, 07:42:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 15, 2009, 07:22:35 AM
Quote from: BearsBearsBearsB... on October 15, 2009, 12:51:01 AM
Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
Quote from: SKO on October 15, 2009, 07:47:15 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2009, 07:42:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 15, 2009, 07:22:35 AM
Quote from: BearsBearsBearsB... on October 15, 2009, 12:51:01 AM
Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
As for Plax. He was catching the ball, but he was also a world-class jagoff. If his head was screwed on straight, he could have been another Jerry Rice. He's got the tools.
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Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
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Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
I wonder if that means they're looking to add depth or replace one of the starters. I can't imagine Brown or Ogunleye being in trouble after their great starts, and Harris is probably untouchable because it would make them look like morans for their continued assertions that he's still the key to the defense, so I'm wondering if they're looking for someone to supplant Anthony Adams? It's odd, because with Idonijie, Gilbert, and Mark Anderson defensive line is probably the deepest position on the roster.
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Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
I wonder if that means they're looking to add depth or replace one of the starters. I can't imagine Brown or Ogunleye being in trouble after their great starts, and Harris is probably untouchable because it would make them look like morans for their continued assertions that he's still the key to the defense, so I'm wondering if they're looking for someone to supplant Anthony Adams? It's odd, because with Idonijie, Gilbert, and Mark Anderson defensive line is probably the deepest position on the roster.
Again, Hub Arkush.
But defensive depth is something you can never have enough of.
If his contract wasn't so high, I'd like to have Nnamdi Asomugha on my team assuming oakland tries to unload some contracts. Granted, he is probably worth his contract, given how awesome he is.. but it's still a lot of dough.
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If his contract wasn't so high, I'd like to have Nnamdi Asomugha on my team assuming oakland tries to unload some contracts. Granted, he is probably worth his contract, given how awesome he is.. but it's still a lot of dough.
Al Davis is batshit crazy, but there's no way even if he does try to unload Nnamdi that he'd settle for less than a first rounder at the minimum. The guy is worth the contract and more.
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Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line rushers and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
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Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line rushers rushmen and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
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At least get it right'd.
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Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line rushers rushmen and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
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Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
I wonder if that means they're looking to add depth or replace one of the starters. I can't imagine Brown or Ogunleye being in trouble after their great starts, and Harris is probably untouchable because it would make them look like morans for their continued assertions that he's still the key to the defense, so I'm wondering if they're looking for someone to supplant Anthony Adams? It's odd, because with Idonijie, Gilbert, and Mark Anderson defensive line is probably the deepest position on the roster.
Again, Hub Arkush.
But defensive depth is something you can never have enough of.
THI
And the conversation with Dan Bernstein and Hub turned to Harris being a liability and some questions about Idonije's knee. They also have Gilbert, who showed lots of potential in
preseason college YouTube videos where he jumped out of a pool flat-footed.
And Marcus Harrison's been M.I.A. this year. If they can get somebody good that somebody's going to let go, they should do it. I think D-Line is one position that Angelo has consistently gotten right. Might as well go to that well one more time.
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Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
I wonder if that means they're looking to add depth or replace one of the starters. I can't imagine Brown or Ogunleye being in trouble after their great starts, and Harris is probably untouchable because it would make them look like morans for their continued assertions that he's still the key to the defense, so I'm wondering if they're looking for someone to supplant Anthony Adams? It's odd, because with Idonijie, Gilbert, and Mark Anderson defensive line is probably the deepest position on the roster.
Again, Hub Arkush.
But defensive depth is something you can never have enough of.
THI
And the conversation with Dan Bernstein and Hub turned to Harris being a liability and some questions about Idonije's knee. They also have Gilbert, who showed lots of potential in preseason college YouTube videos where he jumped out of a pool flat-footed.
And Marcus Harrison's been M.I.A. this year. If they can get somebody good that somebody's going to let go, they should do it. I think D-Line RUSHMAN is one position that Angelo has consistently gotten right. Might as well go to that well one more time.
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QuoteTHI
And the conversation with Dan Bernstein and Hub turned to Harris being a liability and some questions about Idonije's knee. They also have Gilbert, who showed lots of potential in preseason college YouTube videos where he jumped out of a pool flat-footed.
And Marcus Harrison's been M.I.A. this year. If they can get somebody good that somebody's going to let go, they should do it. I think D-Line is one position that Angelo has consistently gotten right. Might as well go to that well one more time.
I still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
And just because I know its going to happen...
QuoteI still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
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QuoteTHI
And the conversation with Dan Bernstein and Hub turned to Harris being a liability and some questions about Idonije's knee. They also have Gilbert, who showed lots of potential in preseason college YouTube videos where he jumped out of a pool flat-footed.
And Marcus Harrison's been M.I.A. this year. If they can get somebody good that somebody's going to let go, they should do it. I think D-Line is one position that Angelo has consistently gotten right. Might as well go to that well one more time.
I still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
And just because I know its going to happen...
QuoteI still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
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It's really sad that Harris can't continue his cannon-shot toward Canton due to some horrific leg injuries. I think they might have won the Super Bowl if he'd stayed healthy. It would have been a whole new ballgame. Whole new day.
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QuoteTHI
And the conversation with Dan Bernstein and Hub turned to Harris being a liability and some questions about Idonije's knee. They also have Gilbert, who showed lots of potential in preseason college YouTube videos where he jumped out of a pool flat-footed.
And Marcus Harrison's been M.I.A. this year. If they can get somebody good that somebody's going to let go, they should do it. I think D-Line is one position that Angelo has consistently gotten right. Might as well go to that well one more time.
I still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
And just because I know its going to happen...
QuoteI still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
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It's really sad that Harris can't continue his cannon-shot toward Canton due to some horrific leg injuries. I think they might have won the Super Bowl if he'd stayed healthy. It would have been a whole new ballgame. Whole new day.
Rex was our quarterback.
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And the conversation with Dan Bernstein and Hub turned to Harris being a liability and some questions about Idonije's knee. They also have Gilbert, who showed lots of potential in preseason college YouTube videos where he jumped out of a pool flat-footed.
And Marcus Harrison's been M.I.A. this year. If they can get somebody good that somebody's going to let go, they should do it. I think D-Line is one position that Angelo has consistently gotten right. Might as well go to that well one more time.
I still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
And just because I know its going to happen...
QuoteI still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
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It's really sad that Harris can't continue his cannon-shot toward Canton due to some horrific leg injuries. I think they might have won the Super Bowl if he'd stayed healthy. It would have been a whole new ballgame. Whole new day.
Rex was our quarterback.
They still might have won if the Colts didn't dominate the point of attack on offense all night. Their running game would have been nullified, Peyton would have been knocked on his ass a couple more times. They wouldn't have had to rely on the blitz as much, cutting off some of the underneath crap that I still wake up in cold sweats thinking about...
"AHHHHHH! GODdAMNIt!!!! DOMINICK RHOADES ARE YOU SHITTING ME??!?!"
For some reason, that game gets more difficult for me to take as time goes on.
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QuoteTHI
And the conversation with Dan Bernstein and Hub turned to Harris being a liability and some questions about Idonije's knee. They also have Gilbert, who showed lots of potential in preseason college YouTube videos where he jumped out of a pool flat-footed.
And Marcus Harrison's been M.I.A. this year. If they can get somebody good that somebody's going to let go, they should do it. I think D-Line is one position that Angelo has consistently gotten right. Might as well go to that well one more time.
I still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
And just because I know its going to happen...
QuoteI still disagree with this. He's not even close to 2006 Tommie Harris, but he still draws double teams to free up Ogunleye and Brown and there's no way the team will bench him if he's healthy. Harrison has been a huge disappointment so far, and Gilbert is too raw, and Adams is fairly mediocre, so I wouldn't mind an upgrade next to Harris. Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs might be availabe for cheap. He's out of place as the nose in a 3-4 defense, but could be pretty good next to Harris in a 4-3.
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It's really sad that Harris can't continue his cannon-shot toward Canton due to some horrific leg injuries. I think they might have won the Super Bowl if he'd stayed healthy. It would have been a whole new ballgame. Whole new day.
Rex was our quarterback.
You son of a b...ahh, fuck it.
Remember when P'Nut stripped Emory Moorehead's boy and recoverd the fumble and Rex couldn't wait to fumble the snap and give it right fucking back to the shits-sweat savoring Colts? I do.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 15, 2009, 10:15:50 AM
Remember when P'Nut stripped Emory Moorehead's boy and recoverd the fumble and Rex couldn't wait to fumble the snap and give it right fucking back to the shits-sweat savoring Colts? I do.
I just remember Atheismo taunting me by having Kelvin Hayden pick Rex off and run it back for the game clinching touchdown. I remember right after 2004, when Illinois had just finished a fantastic 4-19 run in '03 and '04, and my friend the Iowa fan was taunting me about our failures, I said "well at least by moving Kelvin Hayden from wide receiver to cornerback Ron Turner got him drafted in the 2nd round!" and I rooted for him to get a starting job with the Colts and kept pointing him out as an NFL player that came from Illinois. My reward was that. I wonder if Turner felt the irony as well.
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Yay? (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/breaking-tweets-chicago/2009/10/terrell-owens-to-bears-espn-floats-rumor.html)
Why? Why in the name of Atheismo would a team that's actually got a young and cheap wide receiver corps that's shown plenty of promise through the first four games of the season trade for Terrell Owens? There's absolutely nothing he's done to show that he's not in rapid decline. This team's already down a draft pick from the pick up of Cutler, there's no need to lose another one for a guy who would represent a modest improvement at best. Hester and Knox are deep threats. Bennett and Hester have both shown great hands. Olsen is bound to break out any day now. Clark is back. Forte can catch. There's absolutely no need to do something as stupid as bring in Terrell Owens and the shitstorm that comes with him and is no longer even remotely justified by his production.
TO actually doesn't send for his dickheadedness until his second season anywhere. Same thing with Plaxico.
So his comments about the playcalling and whatnot and the rumors that he's disgruntled are just to be ignored? And really? All of Plaxico's problems start in his second season? Is that why he was in Pittsburgh for five years and New York for four? And he had his first 1,000 yard season in his second year with Pitt and a then career high in touchdowns during his second year with the Giants? What a cockwallet.
TO is bitching early because he's on a shitty team. I'm sure if he landed on a contender he'd be on good behavior.
No doubt. He and McNabb got along famously that one year. Let's never speak of this turd again.
I think if somebody had a useable safety that they wanted to unload for a 3rd rounder or later the Bears should do that in a heartbeat. If they gave up a 2nd, it better be somebody really good. Hub Arkush (I know, I know) said he's heard the Bears are trying to improve the defensive line and secondary at the deadline. I hope they do both.
I wonder if that means they're looking to add depth or replace one of the starters. I can't imagine Brown or Ogunleye being in trouble after their great starts, and Harris is probably untouchable because it would make them look like morans for their continued assertions that he's still the key to the defense, so I'm wondering if they're looking for someone to supplant Anthony Adams? It's odd, because with Idonijie, Gilbert, and Mark Anderson defensive line is probably the deepest position on the roster.
Again, Hub Arkush.
But defensive depth is something you can never have enough of.
THI
And the conversation with Dan Bernstein and Hub turned to Harris being a liability and some questions about Idonije's knee. They also have Gilbert, who showed lots of potential in preseason college YouTube videos where he jumped out of a pool flat-footed.
And Marcus Harrison's been M.I.A. this year. If they can get somebody good that somebody's going to let go, they should do it. I think D-Line is one position that Angelo has consistently gotten right. Might as well go to that well one more time.
Do NFL teams in general
ever make significant in-season moves? Trades are rare enough in this league, let alone ones that take place during the season (the Braylon trade is the only one that comes to mind). My guess is that Hub was either talking out of his fistula as usual, or we'll see a sign or trade on par with the fabled Matt Toeina acquisition.
Teams do make significant trades in season. Braylon Edwards for instance.
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Teams do make significant trades in season. Braylon Edwards for instance.
In theory, the Roy Williams trade last year was significant.
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Teams do make significant trades in season. Braylon Edwards for instance.
In theory, the Roy Williams trade last year was significant.
Roy Williams is another one.
Seems like it's usually a troubled or under-acheiving asshole wide receiver getting traded though. What the Bears need is for Troy Palomalu to get drunk and kill somebody or deny the holocaust. Or something.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 15, 2009, 11:36:09 AM
Seems like it's usually a troubled or under-acheiving asshole wide receiver getting traded though. What the Bears need is for Troy Palomalu to get drunk and kill somebody or deny the holocaust. Or something.
Yeah, but then THEY will come for him.
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Seems like it's usually a troubled or under-acheiving asshole wide receiver getting traded though. What the Bears need is for Troy Palomalu to get drunk and kill somebody or deny the holocaust. Or something.
Yeah, but then THEY will come for him.
Rush would have made midseason trades if YOU bailout whore, death panel loving, racist jerks wouldn't have stopped him.
Hussein Obama has a pathological hatred of white people.
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Hussein Obama has a pathological hatred of white people.
Then put him on the pass rush.
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Hussein Obama has a pathological hatred of white people.
Then put him on the pass rush.
Bench him vs. Philly though.
Adam Schefter sez the Bears have acquired Gaines Adams from Tampa for a 2nd round pick in 2010. Discuss.
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 16, 2009, 07:27:28 PM
Adam Schefter sez the Bears have acquired Gaines Adams from Tampa for a 2nd round pick in 2010. Discuss.
He is well aware of the Bears' quarterback history?
(http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/.a/6a00d83451583769e20120a645ba27970c-800wi)
DPD. Apparently this is a Marinelli Will Fix Him situation:
QuoteAdams, the fourth overall pick in the 2007 draft, had been a disappointment in his first two seasons under coach Jon Gruden. He was supposed to get a fresh start under coach Raheem Morris. Defensive coordinator Jim Bates spent much of the offseason working on pass-rush moves with the defensive end.
But Adams had one sack and 10 tackles in Tampa Bay's first three games. That apparently caused the Bucs to give up on Adams as they go through a rebuilding process. Adams had six sacks as a rookie and 6 1/2 last year.
Adding the draft pick from Chicago puts the Bucs back in next year's second round. They gave up their own second-round pick in a trade with Cleveland for tight end Kellen Winslow.
Seems bizarre that the Bucs would give up on the fourth overall pick after just two years. I know he's been a little disappointing, but it doesn't seem like he's been a disaster.
Quote from: R-V on October 15, 2009, 11:09:17 AMDo NFL teams in general ever make significant in-season moves? Trades are rare enough in this league, let alone ones that take place during the season (the Braylon trade is the only one that comes to mind). My guess is that Hub was either talking out of his fistula as usual, or we'll see a sign or trade on par with the fabled Matt Toeina acquisition.
Dumbass.
I guess you can look at it as the Bears using their 2nd round pick to draft Wale's replacement. Works for me. From a purely selfish standpoint, the draft is going to suck next year. Nothing until the 3rd round. Old scouting report from when he was drafted:
QuoteStrengths:
Gaines Adams is an elite athlete at the defensive end position. He ran the quickest 40 yard dash of any defensive end at the scouting combine and is the most agile of all defensive end prospects. Adams excels as a speed rusher, with a quick first step and a variety of moves at his disposal. Adams has solid technique and uses his athleticism to knock down passes and chase down running backs.
Weaknesses:
Adams needs to add muscle and improve his strength to avoid being targeted in the running game. Strong, athletic tackles will be able to neutralize his speed and use their size to prevent him from disengaging. At times, Adams can get too high which allows even average tackles to get into his body and knock him off balance. Adams is not as consistent as he should be for his level of athleticism, which may be because he sometimes takes plays off as he gets frustrated.
Overall:
Gaines Adams is the best pure pass rushing defensive end in the draft, with the level of quickness and agility the teams have placed a premier on in recent years. Adams is similar to Colts DE Dwight Freeney, though not as quick. Adams will make big plays on occasion, but he may struggle against premier offensive lineman who are able to use superior technique and strength against him.
Quote from: R-V on October 16, 2009, 08:14:05 PMQuote... At times, Adams can get too high...
And how! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2842833)
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Quote from: R-V on October 16, 2009, 08:14:05 PMQuote... At times, Adams can get too high...
And how! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2842833)
(insert something about Geovany Soto)
Nice move. Adams just needs somebody to give him a little kick in the ass. Not a bad pick up with a second round pick.
Quote from: Eli on October 16, 2009, 08:04:42 PM
Seems bizarre that the Bucs would give up on the fourth overall pick after just two years. I know he's been a little disappointing, but it doesn't seem like he's been a disaster.
Leave Cedric out of this.
I don't know about this. Marinelli's been great so far, so I have confidence he could improve Gaines, but I'd like to see some safety help come from somewhere. If Gaines taps into his potential its worth it. If he doesn't it's not. This could go either way. We'll see how it plays out. I'm going to ahead and boldly state that I think this might have been a good trade, but it could also have been a bad one.
Quote from: SKO on October 17, 2009, 12:43:54 AM
I don't know about this. Marinelli's been great so far, so I have confidence he could improve Gaines, but I'd like to see some safety help come from somewhere. If Gaines taps into his potential its worth it. If he doesn't it's not. This could go either way. We'll see how it plays out. I'm going to ahead and boldly state that I think this might have been a good trade, but it could also have been a bad one.
Damn it. I had already typed up 90 percent of this post before getting to Desipio this morning.
Shit, now I don't have anything to say.
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Quote from: Eli on October 16, 2009, 08:04:42 PM
Seems bizarre that the Bucs would give up on the fourth overall pick after just two years. I know he's been a little disappointing, but it doesn't seem like he's been a disaster.
Leave Cedric out of this.
Fair enough. But Cedric had three years to prove what an unworthy douche he could turn into. Ran out of a paper and got himself moto in Cincy. Wait til he inks that new deal though.
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Quote from: SKO on October 17, 2009, 12:43:54 AM
I don't know about this. Marinelli's been great so far, so I have confidence he could improve Gaines, but I'd like to see some safety help come from somewhere. If Gaines taps into his potential its worth it. If he doesn't it's not. This could go either way. We'll see how it plays out. I'm going to ahead and boldly state that I think this might have been a good trade, but it could also have been a bad one.
Damn it. I had already typed up 90 percent of this post before getting to Desipio this morning.
Shit, now I don't have anything to say.
Nice, BC. Don't forget to rest on your laurels now.
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Quote from: SKO on October 17, 2009, 12:43:54 AM
I don't know about this. Marinelli's been great so far, so I have confidence he could improve Gaines, but I'd like to see some safety help come from somewhere. If Gaines taps into his potential its worth it. If he doesn't it's not. This could go either way. We'll see how it plays out. I'm going to ahead and boldly state that I think this might have been a good trade, but it could also have been a bad one.
Damn it. I had already typed up 90 percent of this post before getting to Desipio this morning.
Shit, now I don't have anything to say.
You owe SKO an apology.
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Quote from: SKO on October 17, 2009, 12:43:54 AM
I don't know about this. Marinelli's been great so far, so I have confidence he could improve Gaines, but I'd like to see some safety help come from somewhere. If Gaines taps into his potential its worth it. If he doesn't it's not. This could go either way. We'll see how it plays out. I'm going to ahead and boldly state that I think this might have been a good trade, but it could also have been a bad one.
Damn it. I had already typed up 90 percent of this post before getting to Desipio this morning.
Shit, now I don't have anything to say.
You owe SKO an apology.
For the record, my more decisive, evil alter ego thinks this was a smart deal. 6 sacks in each of the last two years isn't terrible for a developing player with that much speed and talent. The improvement in the Bears line this year has been outstanding, but Marinelli's track record for this stuff is pretty good. Simeon Rice averaged 10 sacks a year in Arizona (which is Good), but then upped that to 13.5 a year in his time under Rod in Tampa. Small sample size, but Warren Sapp had 3.0 sacks as a rookie without Marinelli, then had 9.0 the next year with him, and averaged 9.25 sacks a year under Rod (which is really good for a DT). I think Marinelli will work wonders on him and so far he's gotten a rise out of Mark Anderson as well. With those two the Bears could let both Brown and Ogunleye go in free agency and not experience too much of a drop off on the line. I approve.
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Quote from: SKO on October 17, 2009, 12:43:54 AM
I don't know about this. Marinelli's been great so far, so I have confidence he could improve Gaines, but I'd like to see some safety help come from somewhere. If Gaines taps into his potential its worth it. If he doesn't it's not. This could go either way. We'll see how it plays out. I'm going to ahead and boldly state that I think this might have been a good trade, but it could also have been a bad one.
Damn it. I had already typed up 90 percent of this post before getting to Desipio this morning.
Shit, now I don't have anything to say.
You owe SKO an apology.
For the record, my more decisive, evil alter ego thinks this was a smart deal. 6 sacks in each of the last two years isn't terrible for a developing player with that much speed and talent. The improvement in the Bears line this year has been outstanding, but Marinelli's track record for this stuff is pretty good. Simeon Rice averaged 10 sacks a year in Arizona (which is Good), but then upped that to 13.5 a year in his time under Rod in Tampa. Small sample size, but Warren Sapp had 3.0 sacks as a rookie without Marinelli, then had 9.0 the next year with him, and averaged 9.25 sacks a year under Rod (which is really good for a DT). I think Marinelli will work wonders on him and so far he's gotten a rise out of Mark Anderson as well. With those two the Bears could let both Brown and Ogunleye go in free agency and not experience too much of a drop off on the line. I approve.
This.
It's a great pick up. I don't expect Ogunleye to go anywhere though. I think he'll sign here for cheaper. All in all, really good pick up for just a second round pick. We're better off without draft picks anyway since they usually suck.
Hey, why's Chicago playing in Atlanta again? It seems a little wrong that they play here 2 years in a row. You'd think they'd schedule this game in Chicago, right?
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 18, 2009, 07:54:46 PM
Hey, why's Chicago playing in Atlanta again? It seems a little wrong that they play here 2 years in a row. You'd think they'd schedule this game in Chicago, right?
You know the schedule is pre-set, right? Last year, the third place team in the NFC North played @ the 3rd place team in the NFC South. This year, the second place team in the NFC North plays @ the second-place team in the NFC South/
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Quote from: IrishYeti on October 18, 2009, 07:54:46 PM
Hey, why's Chicago playing in Atlanta again? It seems a little wrong that they play here 2 years in a row. You'd think they'd schedule this game in Chicago, right?
You know the schedule is pre-set, right? Last year, the third place team in the NFC North played @ the 3rd place team in the NFC South. This year, the second place team in the NFC North plays @ the second-place team in the NFC South/
I knew they'd designate 3rd place v. 3rd place, but I didn't know that the home and away team were already preset. I just figured they determined the home and away after they determined who was playing each other.
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
Quote from: fiveouts on October 18, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
This game is winnable, but Roach is incompetent, and Cutler's bouts of retardation need to stop coming in spurts.
That last TD rises to the level of a capital offense.
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Quote from: fiveouts on October 18, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
This game is winnable, but Roach is incompetent, and Cutler's bouts of retardation need to stop coming in spurts.
That last TD rises to the level of a capital offense.
Thanks for telling me not to give up hope down a touchdown with an actual qb at the helm. You bring reason in troubled times. Also, would you prefer he be more consistently retarded? Or just accept that maybe the guy will have a so-so effort every now and then?
Are you fucking kidding me???
The Bears running game sucks.
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 18, 2009, 09:34:51 PM
The Bears running game sucks.
Not to worry; the Bears have plenty of draft picks with which to get an awesome offensive line next year.
Also, how many more games do we have to see Omiyale get abused before he is finnaly benched?
Two turnovers in the red zone. One missed fumble in the red zone because Lance Briggs isn't interested in just falling on the ball. This game has been just a bit frustrating.
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 18, 2009, 09:34:51 PM
The Bears running game sucks.
Worse than that is Ron Turner's refusal to recognize that fact. God damnit.
I love how the defense waits until the offense ties it up to shit down their pants.
I'd mention the special teams, but they've been shitting down their pants all game.
A frustrating game all around.
Pace is fucking worthless.
Guh.
D-D-D-DOOOOOOOM!!!!!
But seriously, that sucked ass.
Is there any fucking chance that Shaffer and Beekman could even get a LOOK this year? Christ. Pace and Omiyale can't fucking block anything or stay set. I'm tired of fucking hearing that they're "gelling." Fuck that, its been an entire offseason and 6 weeks of the season. God damnit.
Well at least they didn't lose because they fucked up a kickoff this time...
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 18, 2009, 09:40:03 PM
Also, how many more games do we have to see Omiyale get abused before he is finnaly benched?
This. I thought Josh Beekman played surprisingly well last year, not sure why he is in the doghouse.
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 18, 2009, 10:36:40 PM
Well at least they didn't lose because they fucked up a kickoff this time...
That 61 yard kickoff return immediately following the game tying TD certainly looked like a fuckup to me.
Also, how much is Kevin Jones' injury hurting right now? Forte's doesn't hit the god damn hole even when he has one, and Garrett Wolfe is worthless between the tackles. God damnit.
On the plus side, the internet just reminded me that there's a new Venture Brothers tonight.
I think they're going to be really good next year.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 18, 2009, 10:49:29 PM
I think they're going to be really good next year.
The Venture Bros. I mean.
Quote from: SKO on October 18, 2009, 10:34:32 PM
Is there any fucking chance that Shaffer and Beekman could even get a LOOK this year? Christ. Pace and Omiyale can't fucking block anything or stay set. I'm tired of fucking hearing that they're "gelling." Fuck that, its been an entire offseason and 6 weeks of the season. God damnit.
The offensive line sucked throughout the game, but that last series was just a complete collapse. Pathetic that Roberto F. Garza is probably their best lineman right now. Williams and Kreutz are lucky that Pace and Omiyale have been bad enough to overshadow their not-goodness.
And speaking of line play, how many times did Matt Ryan hit the ground tonight?
This year's Sunday Night Football CURSE is worse than the wrath of Dick Stockton.
Our run blocking sucks. Jake Utler isn't the problem, though he has a little too much gunslinger in him for my taste. And oh yea, we miss Urlacher (duh). Hell, even Helen makes that play against Gonzalez before halftime. Did I mention the O-line sucks? What's Qasim Mitchell doing these days? Lovie can say it as much as he wants, but we're not a running team anymore, and when November and December hit, that's gonna be a problem.
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
Quote from: SKO on October 18, 2009, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 18, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 18, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
This game is winnable, but Roach is incompetent, and Cutler's bouts of retardation need to stop coming in spurts.
That last TD rises to the level of a capital offense.
Thanks for telling me not to give up hope down a touchdown with an actual qb at the helm. You bring reason in troubled times. Also, would you prefer he be more consistently retarded? Or just accept that maybe the guy will have a so-so effort every now and then?
THIS.
This gamecast was consistently retarded.
Edit:
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
God Damnit. Is that fucking pumpkin head going to at least be extinguished by Halloween? And all hese"former" Bears can go eat out their own assholes.
Quote from: MAD on October 18, 2009, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 18, 2009, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 18, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 18, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
This game is winnable, but Roach is incompetent, and Cutler's bouts of retardation need to stop coming in spurts.
That last TD rises to the level of a capital offense.
Thanks for telling me not to give up hope down a touchdown with an actual qb at the helm. You bring reason in troubled times. Also, would you prefer he be more consistently retarded? Or just accept that maybe the guy will have a so-so effort every now and then?
THIS.
This gamecast was consistently retarded.
Edit:
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
God Damnit. Is that fucking pumpkin head going to at least be extinguished by Halloween? And all hese"former" Bears can go eat out their own assholes.
http://wrigleyville23.com/2009/10/19/dave-kaplan-has-a-thin-skin.html
QuoteOver on Twitter, we made note of Dave Kaplan's Tweet about Jay Cutler's lack of class:
thekapman There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
To which we, rather innocuously, said:
wrigleyville23 kaplan, lecturing people on class. hm.
To which the esteemed journalist responded with (via direct message, no less):
thekapman Dude, until you know me and what I stand for don't comment on me. You know nothing about me.
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 12:11:12 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 18, 2009, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 18, 2009, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 18, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 18, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
This game is winnable, but Roach is incompetent, and Cutler's bouts of retardation need to stop coming in spurts.
That last TD rises to the level of a capital offense.
Thanks for telling me not to give up hope down a touchdown with an actual qb at the helm. You bring reason in troubled times. Also, would you prefer he be more consistently retarded? Or just accept that maybe the guy will have a so-so effort every now and then?
THIS.
This gamecast was consistently retarded.
Edit:
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
God Damnit. Is that fucking pumpkin head going to at least be extinguished by Halloween? And all hese"former" Bears can go eat out their own assholes.
http://wrigleyville23.com/2009/10/19/dave-kaplan-has-a-thin-skin.html
QuoteOver on Twitter, we made note of Dave Kaplan's Tweet about Jay Cutler's lack of class:
thekapman There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
To which we, rather innocuously, said:
wrigleyville23 kaplan, lecturing people on class. hm.
To which the esteemed journalist responded with (via direct message, no less):
thekapman Dude, until you know me and what I stand for don't comment on me. You know nothing about me.
What kind of self-delusional turdbucket gets hung up on such nebulous qualities like "class"?
And I don't think any self-respecting journalist who happened to cover the only Super Bowl-winning QB in this town would say that class is particularly important for that position.
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
Are we going to have to do Jay Cutler media thing after every loss now? Can somebody just push Kapman down a flight of stairs already.
Fuck Atlanta. That's all I'm going to say about what should have been a winnable game.
To a lesser extent, fuck Orlando Pace, as well.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
Fuck Atlanta. That's all I'm going to say about what should have been a winnable game.
To a lesser extent, fuck Orlando Pace, as well.
Fuck the entire state of Georgia and every white person in it.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 19, 2009, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
Fuck Atlanta. That's all I'm going to say about what should have been a winnable game.
To a lesser extent, fuck Orlando Pace, as well.
Fuck the entire state of Georgia and every white person in it.
Now, let's wait a minute, I do like the HowStuffWorks podcast and I'm pretty sure those two guys are white and work/live in Georgia.
Let's not be too hasty.
How about fuck Zell Miller? Compromise?
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 12:53:15 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 19, 2009, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
Fuck Atlanta. That's all I'm going to say about what should have been a winnable game.
To a lesser extent, fuck Orlando Pace, as well.
Fuck the entire state of Georgia and every white person in it.
Now, let's wait a minute, I do like the HowStuffWorks podcast and I'm pretty sure those two guys are white and work/live in Georgia.
Let's not be too hasty.
How about fuck Zell Miller? Compromise?
I don't know who those guys are but I assume they're pudwacks like Zell. Playing the percentages here. Thanks.
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 12:11:12 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 18, 2009, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 18, 2009, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 18, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 18, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
This game is winnable, but Roach is incompetent, and Cutler's bouts of retardation need to stop coming in spurts.
That last TD rises to the level of a capital offense.
Thanks for telling me not to give up hope down a touchdown with an actual qb at the helm. You bring reason in troubled times. Also, would you prefer he be more consistently retarded? Or just accept that maybe the guy will have a so-so effort every now and then?
THIS.
This gamecast was consistently retarded.
Edit:
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
God Damnit. Is that fucking pumpkin head going to at least be extinguished by Halloween? And all hese"former" Bears can go eat out their own assholes.
http://wrigleyville23.com/2009/10/19/dave-kaplan-has-a-thin-skin.html
QuoteOver on Twitter, we made note of Dave Kaplan's Tweet about Jay Cutler's lack of class:
thekapman There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
To which we, rather innocuously, said:
wrigleyville23 kaplan, lecturing people on class. hm.
To which the esteemed journalist responded with (via direct message, no less):
thekapman Dude, until you know me and what I stand for don't comment on me. You know nothing about me.
What kind of self-delusional turdbucket gets hung up on such nebulous qualities like "class"?
And I don't think any self-respecting journalist who happened to cover the only Super Bowl-winning QB in this town would say that class is particularly important for that position.
I got a direct message from Kaplan, too.
He told me that I'm being a hypocrite for calling him ridiculous while still following him on Twitter.
What a fucking buttsled.*
*must credit DrunkAngryHuey
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 19, 2009, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 12:11:12 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 18, 2009, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 18, 2009, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 18, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 18, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
This game is winnable, but Roach is incompetent, and Cutler's bouts of retardation need to stop coming in spurts.
That last TD rises to the level of a capital offense.
Thanks for telling me not to give up hope down a touchdown with an actual qb at the helm. You bring reason in troubled times. Also, would you prefer he be more consistently retarded? Or just accept that maybe the guy will have a so-so effort every now and then?
THIS.
This gamecast was consistently retarded.
Edit:
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
God Damnit. Is that fucking pumpkin head going to at least be extinguished by Halloween? And all hese"former" Bears can go eat out their own assholes.
http://wrigleyville23.com/2009/10/19/dave-kaplan-has-a-thin-skin.html
QuoteOver on Twitter, we made note of Dave Kaplan's Tweet about Jay Cutler's lack of class:
thekapman There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
To which we, rather innocuously, said:
wrigleyville23 kaplan, lecturing people on class. hm.
To which the esteemed journalist responded with (via direct message, no less):
thekapman Dude, until you know me and what I stand for don't comment on me. You know nothing about me.
What kind of self-delusional turdbucket gets hung up on such nebulous qualities like "class"?
And I don't think any self-respecting journalist who happened to cover the only Super Bowl-winning QB in this town would say that class is particularly important for that position.
I got a direct message from Kaplan, too.
He told me that I'm being a hypocrite for calling him ridiculous while still following him on Twitter.
What a fucking buttsled.*
*must credit DrunkAngryHuey
The reason I hunched you'd get one is that he's sent me one as well. Not too long ago i criticized him for getting hung up on some other athlete's (it actually might have been Cutler) personality and he sent me a PM calling me ridiculous.
Is there a bigger fagbulb in Chicago than Dave Kaplan? I think not.
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
The Great Tom Brady would never blow off a media member in search of a quote. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tom-Brady-makes-Suzy-Kolber-work-for-her-postgam?urn=nfl,189502)
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 19, 2009, 01:14:53 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 19, 2009, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 12:11:12 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 18, 2009, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 18, 2009, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 18, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 18, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Nick Roach is getting abused tonight.
This game is winnable, but Roach is incompetent, and Cutler's bouts of retardation need to stop coming in spurts.
That last TD rises to the level of a capital offense.
Thanks for telling me not to give up hope down a touchdown with an actual qb at the helm. You bring reason in troubled times. Also, would you prefer he be more consistently retarded? Or just accept that maybe the guy will have a so-so effort every now and then?
THIS.
This gamecast was consistently retarded.
Edit:
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
God Damnit. Is that fucking pumpkin head going to at least be extinguished by Halloween? And all hese"former" Bears can go eat out their own assholes.
http://wrigleyville23.com/2009/10/19/dave-kaplan-has-a-thin-skin.html
QuoteOver on Twitter, we made note of Dave Kaplan's Tweet about Jay Cutler's lack of class:
thekapman There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
To which we, rather innocuously, said:
wrigleyville23 kaplan, lecturing people on class. hm.
To which the esteemed journalist responded with (via direct message, no less):
thekapman Dude, until you know me and what I stand for don't comment on me. You know nothing about me.
What kind of self-delusional turdbucket gets hung up on such nebulous qualities like "class"?
And I don't think any self-respecting journalist who happened to cover the only Super Bowl-winning QB in this town would say that class is particularly important for that position.
I got a direct message from Kaplan, too.
He told me that I'm being a hypocrite for calling him ridiculous while still following him on Twitter.
What a fucking buttsled.*
*must credit DrunkAngryHuey
The reason I hunched you'd get one is that he's sent me one as well. Not too long ago i criticized him for getting hung up on some other athlete's (it actually might have been Cutler) personality and he sent me a PM calling me ridiculous.
Is there a bigger fagbulb in Chicago than Dave Kaplan? I think not.
I'm jealous that you guys angered him more than I did.
Quote from: fiveouts on October 19, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
The Great Tom Brady would never blow off a media member in search of a quote. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tom-Brady-makes-Suzy-Kolber-work-for-her-postgam?urn=nfl,189502)
I hope you posted that on Kap's Korner
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 19, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
The Great Tom Brady would never blow off a media member in search of a quote. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tom-Brady-makes-Suzy-Kolber-work-for-her-postgam?urn=nfl,189502)
I hope you posted that on Kap's Korner
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 19, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
The Great Tom Brady would never blow off a media member in search of a quote. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tom-Brady-makes-Suzy-Kolber-work-for-her-postgam?urn=nfl,189502)
I hope you posted that on Kap's Korner
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
Interestingly vague comment from Lovie about Frank Omiyale's job security:
QuoteWhen asked Monday in general whether there could be changes on the offensive line, coach Lovie Smith said: "We'll look at changes after every game. We look at what gives us the best opportunity to win, but I don't see any major changes on the offensive line." Asked later whether supplanting Omiyale with Beekman would be considered a major change, Smith said: "That would be a change; I don't know about major. It would be a change. Again, we're evaluating everything like we do each week. It's no more than that. Josh has done a good job for us."
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 19, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 19, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
The Great Tom Brady would never blow off a media member in search of a quote. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tom-Brady-makes-Suzy-Kolber-work-for-her-postgam?urn=nfl,189502)
I hope you posted that on Kap's Korner
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
In my world, October is represented by "9". It's not my fault that your world won't bend to mine.
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 19, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 19, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
The Great Tom Brady would never blow off a media member in search of a quote. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tom-Brady-makes-Suzy-Kolber-work-for-her-postgam?urn=nfl,189502)
I hope you posted that on Kap's Korner
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
In my world, October is represented by "9". It's not my fault that your world won't bend to mine.
Is there a Smarch in your world, Huey?
(http://majorleaguejerk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/smarch.jpg)
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 19, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 19, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 19, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 18, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Don't worry - The Orange One has his finger on the pulse of what's really important here:
QuoteHmm.... 3 former Bears ripping Cutler for his post game comments or lack thereof. He needs to grow up as one of them just said.
@Matt_in_Digital Whatever Matt. Manning, Brady etc. don't conduct themselves that way.
There is a difference between being pissed and not showing class. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning they don't act the way Cutler did. That 's it.
Jay Cutler's postgame press conference performance is embarrasing. Be a man and talk about the game. Very disappointing.
http://twitter.com/thekapman
The Great Tom Brady would never blow off a media member in search of a quote. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tom-Brady-makes-Suzy-Kolber-work-for-her-postgam?urn=nfl,189502)
I hope you posted that on Kap's Korner
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
In my world, October is represented by "9". It's not my fault that your world won't bend to mine.
Is there a Smarch in your world, Huey?
(http://majorleaguejerk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/smarch.jpg)
Damn Smarch weather.
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2009, 06:40:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 19, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
In my world, October is represented by "9". It's not my fault that your world won't bend to mine.
Is there a Smarch in your world, Huey?
(http://majorleaguejerk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/smarch.jpg)
Damn Smarch weather.
Not only are the trains now running on time, they're running on metric time.
Remember this time, people: 80 past 2 on April 47th, the dawn of a new Enlightenment.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 19, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2009, 06:40:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 19, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
In my world, October is represented by "9". It's not my fault that your world won't bend to mine.
Is there a Smarch in your world, Huey?
Damn Smarch weather.
Not only are the trains now running on time, they're running on metric time.
Remember this time, people: 80 past 2 on April 47th, the dawn of a new Enlightenment.
Reminds me of Steven Wright's old joke about encountering a restaurant that offered "Breakfast Anytime" to which he said he'd like French Toast served during the Renaissance.
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 19, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2009, 06:40:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 19, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
In my world, October is represented by "9". It's not my fault that your world won't bend to mine.
Is there a Smarch in your world, Huey?
Damn Smarch weather.
Not only are the trains now running on time, they're running on metric time.
Remember this time, people: 80 past 2 on April 47th, the dawn of a new Enlightenment.
Reminds me of Steven Wright's old joke about encountering a restaurant that offered "Breakfast Anytime" to which he said he'd like French Toast served during the Renaissance.
I don't know about Steven Wright, but that's a scene from Swingers.
Maybe they stole it.
Quote
MIKE
Coffee...
(points to Trent, who nods)
Two coffees. It says "Breakfast Any Time", right?
WAITRESS
That's right.
MIKE
I'll have "pancakes in the Age of Enlightenment".
....
....
...
MIKE
I should've said Renaissance, right? It went over her head
Quote from: PenFoe on October 19, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 19, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2009, 06:40:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 19, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
In my world, October is represented by "9". It's not my fault that your world won't bend to mine.
Is there a Smarch in your world, Huey?
Damn Smarch weather.
Not only are the trains now running on time, they're running on metric time.
Remember this time, people: 80 past 2 on April 47th, the dawn of a new Enlightenment.
Reminds me of Steven Wright's old joke about encountering a restaurant that offered "Breakfast Anytime" to which he said he'd like French Toast served during the Renaissance.
I don't know about Steven Wright, but that's a scene from Swingers.
Maybe they stole it.
No maybe about it. I heard Wright say that joke on HBO c. 1986.
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 07:48:32 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 19, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 19, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2009, 06:40:53 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on October 19, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 19, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
The timing on this is awesome. Nothing like a big heaping bowl of IMMEDIATEFACE for that out-of-touch fanboy.
The timing being a month ago?
In my world, October is represented by "9". It's not my fault that your world won't bend to mine.
Is there a Smarch in your world, Huey?
Damn Smarch weather.
Not only are the trains now running on time, they're running on metric time.
Remember this time, people: 80 past 2 on April 47th, the dawn of a new Enlightenment.
Reminds me of Steven Wright's old joke about encountering a restaurant that offered "Breakfast Anytime" to which he said he'd like French Toast served during the Renaissance.
I don't know about Steven Wright, but that's a scene from Swingers.
Maybe they stole it.
No maybe about it. I heard Wright say that joke on HBO c. 1986.
QuoteHis jokes are offbeat but legendary. Last year, when Gentleman's Quarterly printed the 75 greatest jokes of all time, Steven Wright was credited with five of them.
... No. 9 was: "I went into a restaurant. The menu said, 'breakfast any time.' So I ordered French toast during the Renaissance."
... In 1988, he starred in his first HBO Special "On Location: Steven Wright." In 1989, he won an Academy Award for Best Short Film for "The Appointments of Dennis Jennings."
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/821452/
I know that I have harped on it plenty of times, but Ron Turner is just an awful offensive coordinator. AWFUL...
The two losses have been road games against good teams where the Bears played awful football for much of the games AND STILL were tied/in the lead late. There are problems with the Bears, no doubt, but I actually am optimistic at this point...
Quote from: BC on October 20, 2009, 03:02:49 AM
I know that I have harped on it plenty of times, but Ron Turner is just an awful offensive coordinator. AWFUL...
The two losses have been road games against good teams where the Bears played awful football for much of the games AND STILL were tied/in the lead late. There are problems with the Bears, no doubt, but I actually am optimistic at this point...
I would like for you to explain exactly why you think Ron Turner is an awful offensive coordinator. You just repeat that over and over again, yet you never actually say what you'd like him to do differently. I think you're just a complainer.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 20, 2009, 09:30:26 AM
Quote from: BC on October 20, 2009, 03:02:49 AM
I know that I have harped on it plenty of times, but Ron Turner is just an awful offensive coordinator. AWFUL...
The two losses have been road games against good teams where the Bears played awful football for much of the games AND STILL were tied/in the lead late. There are problems with the Bears, no doubt, but I actually am optimistic at this point...
I would like for you to explain exactly why you think Ron Turner is an awful offensive coordinator. You just repeat that over and over again, yet you never actually say what you'd like him to do differently. I think you're just a complainer.
Have the offense score more points. Christ, you're thick-skulled, Kerm.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 20, 2009, 09:30:26 AM
Quote from: BC on October 20, 2009, 03:02:49 AM
I know that I have harped on it plenty of times, but Ron Turner is just an awful offensive coordinator. AWFUL...
The two losses have been road games against good teams where the Bears played awful football for much of the games AND STILL were tied/in the lead late. There are problems with the Bears, no doubt, but I actually am optimistic at this point...
I would like for you to explain exactly why you think Ron Turner is an awful offensive coordinator. You just repeat that over and over again, yet you never actually say what you'd like him to do differently. I think you're just a complainer.
I've defended Turner over and over, but the guy has been less than stellar this year. My biggest problem is with his insistence on delayed running plays. They run all kinds of sweeps and stretches when clearly Omiyale's fat ass can't waddle out quick enough to seal the outside (not that he can block the guy if he gets there in time, anyway) and the rest of the line can't hold a block that long. Just berate Forte until he finally starts hitting the hole and run up the middle through Garza's hole on a quick hit, since that guy's the only one blocking. The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 20, 2009, 09:30:26 AM
Quote from: BC on October 20, 2009, 03:02:49 AM
I know that I have harped on it plenty of times, but Ron Turner is just an awful offensive coordinator. AWFUL...
The two losses have been road games against good teams where the Bears played awful football for much of the games AND STILL were tied/in the lead late. There are problems with the Bears, no doubt, but I actually am optimistic at this point...
I would like for you to explain exactly why you think Ron Turner is an awful offensive coordinator. You just repeat that over and over again, yet you never actually say what you'd like him to do differently. I think you're just a complainer.
I've defended Turner over and over, but the guy has been less than stellar this year. My biggest problem is with his insistence on delayed running plays. They run all kinds of sweeps and stretches when clearly Omiyale's fat ass can't waddle out quick enough to seal the outside (not that he can block the guy if he gets there in time, anyway) and the rest of the line can't hold a block that long. Just berate Forte until he finally starts hitting the hole and run up the middle through Garza's hole on a quick hit, since that guy's the only one blocking. The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
Dammit, SKO. I know
you know your football. But now BC can just repeat everything you said in his own words.
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
If they made better use of the running game, play action would be even more effective.
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
If they made better use of the running game, play action would be even more effective.
Thanks.
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:46:49 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
If they made better use of the running game, play action would be even more effective.
Thanks.
Are you taking notes?
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2009, 09:49:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:46:49 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
If they made better use of the running game, play action would be even more effective.
Thanks.
Are you taking notes?
Once my mind recovers enough from being blown that I regain the ability to write.
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2009, 09:49:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:46:49 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
If they made better use of the running game, play action would be even more effective.
Thanks.
Are you taking notes?
Once my mind recovers enough from being blown that I regain the ability to write.
I think that the play action would be more effective if they made better use of the ground game.
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
If they had a made better use of the running game that didn't suck, play action would be even more effective.
As much as I enjoy Fork's Sports Platitudes, actually'd
And to back SKO up, we went over this in the preseason, but according to statfaggotry (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/07/report_garza_was_bears_top_lin.html) (which I don't trust nearly as much in football as I do in baseball, but at least it's an attempt at objective analysis), Garza and Beekman were their most effective linemen last season. Get Omiyale's sorry ass out of the lineup, run it up the gut, and profit.
And by profit, I mean suck less.
Quote from: R-V on October 20, 2009, 10:14:48 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
If they had a made better use of the running game that didn't suck, play action would be even more effective.
As much as I enjoy Fork's Sports Platitudes, actually'd
And to back SKO up, we went over this in the preseason, but according to statfaggotry (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/07/report_garza_was_bears_top_lin.html) (which I don't trust nearly as much in football as I do in baseball, but at least it's an attempt at objective analysis), Garza and Beekman were their most effective linemen last season. Get Omiyale's sorry ass out of the lineup, run it up the gut, and profit.
And by profit, I mean suck less.
This is what I was saying...they've got the right pieces, they just aren't using them effectively. Omiyale licks Abe Gibron's undercock.
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2009, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 20, 2009, 10:14:48 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
The short passing game hasn't bothered me because it's done a pretty effective job of beating the constant blitzes Jay has been facing. I'd love to see the team work in a bit more play action, because the last touchdown drive on Sunday was the only time they used it 3-4 times on one series and it worked beautifully.
If they had a made better use of the running game that didn't suck, play action would be even more effective.
As much as I enjoy Fork's Sports Platitudes, actually'd
And to back SKO up, we went over this in the preseason, but according to statfaggotry (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/07/report_garza_was_bears_top_lin.html) (which I don't trust nearly as much in football as I do in baseball, but at least it's an attempt at objective analysis), Garza and Beekman were their most effective linemen last season. Get Omiyale's sorry ass out of the lineup, run it up the gut, and profit.
And by profit, I mean suck less.
This is what I was saying...they've got the right pieces, they just aren't using them effectively. Omiyale licks Abe Gibron's undercock.
He really is awful.
And points for "Abe Gibron's undercock". Why do I think that Charlie Weis has a shrine to Gibron in his home?
Does play action really need a good running game to work? If the defenders see a hand off, aren't they going to assume it is a run? All they need is a moment of hesitation or one step the wrong direction. Why does the success or lack of success on earlier running plays change the defense's approach to stopping what seems to be a running play?
Quote from: Tony on October 20, 2009, 10:32:50 AM
Does play action really need a good running game to work? If the defenders see a hand off, aren't they going to assume it is a run? All they need is a moment of hesitation or one step the wrong direction. Why does the success or lack of success on earlier running plays change the defense's approach to stopping what seems to be a running play?
This.
I, too, used to think that you needed to establish the run to do play-action, but have come to realize it's a kind of meatball thought. Just fake the run. That's the point. They won't overcommit any more if you have a good running game.
Quote from: Tony on October 20, 2009, 10:32:50 AM
Does play action really need a good running game to work? If the defenders see a hand off, aren't they going to assume it is a run? All they need is a moment of hesitation or one step the wrong direction. Why does the success or lack of success on earlier running plays change the defense's approach to stopping what seems to be a running play?
If you're not getting anything from the running game, the D won't bite on play action.
Same way that an ineffective passing game makes draw plays worthless.
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 20, 2009, 10:32:50 AM
Does play action really need a good running game to work? If the defenders see a hand off, aren't they going to assume it is a run? All they need is a moment of hesitation or one step the wrong direction. Why does the success or lack of success on earlier running plays change the defense's approach to stopping what seems to be a running play?
This.
I, too, used to think that you needed to establish the run to do play-action, but have come to realize it's a kind of meatball thought. Just fake the run. That's the point. They won't overcommit any more if you have a good running game.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you can't block. If the opposing team stays to its assignments, and beats 2/3's of the offensive lineman at the point of attack, they can tackle the running back, the fullback, the quarterback and the umpire if they want.
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2009, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 20, 2009, 10:32:50 AM
Does play action really need a good running game to work? If the defenders see a hand off, aren't they going to assume it is a run? All they need is a moment of hesitation or one step the wrong direction. Why does the success or lack of success on earlier running plays change the defense's approach to stopping what seems to be a running play?
This.
I, too, used to think that you needed to establish the run to do play-action, but have come to realize it's a kind of meatball thought. Just fake the run. That's the point. They won't overcommit any more if you have a good running game.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you can't block. If the opposing team stays to its assignments, and beats 2/3's of the offensive lineman at the point of attack, they can tackle the running back, the fullback, the quarterback and the umpire if they want.
This. I see a lot of 8-9 man fronts against the Bears on possible rushing downs and MFs are blitzing the Christ out of them no matter the down and distance. At times, Cutler and the receiving corps have made them pay for that but not enough to make them stop doing it. I mean, the middle of the field, the sidelines, everything was all you could eat in that fourth quarter and they hit some stuff. But they stepped on their dicks so much in short yardage that they couldn't finish the deal. I wish I had answer for this other than, move your guy off the ball and gain a fucking yard. But other than that, I've got nothing. Still see 10 wins for this team and if they beat Philly, SF, AZ and GB that should be plenty for the playoffs. Any of those four games seem unwinnable? Nosir.
Bear down, octaroons.
It's way too early for DOOM, but I think the only path to the playoffs is if
Turner can get his head out of his ass (or Lovie dictates some offensive
strategy) and the Bears admit to themselves that they are not a power
running football team this year. Don't abandon the run, but stop with
every 3rd and short or goal line area play being a big lineup. They finally
spread the field at the goal line and got the TD to Clark last game.
Keep working on the run, work in some of the other linemen and see if
they can manage to get something going. Maybe accidentally drop Olin
into a giant vat of acid. Hopefully get back to around last year's run game.
But until there's some glimmer of success there, quit lying to themselves
that they can power run.
Quote from: Pre on October 20, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
It's way too early for DOOM, but I think the only path to the playoffs is if
Turner can get his head out of his ass (or Lovie dictates some offensive
strategy) and the Bears admit to themselves that they are not a power
running football team this year. Don't abandon the run, but stop with
every 3rd and short or goal line area play being a big lineup. They finally
spread the field at the goal line and got the TD to Clark last game.
Keep working on the run, work in some of the other linemen and see if
they can manage to get something going. Maybe accidentally drop Olin
into a giant vat of acid. Hopefully get back to around last year's run game.
But until there's some glimmer of success there, quit lying to themselves
that they can power run.
I hope they get Jason McKie more involved. Guy is a rock.
Courtesy of Something Awful via KSK.
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/orton-600x300.jpeg)
As much as Orton's success with Denver compels the meatball fanbase to digress to lower levels of stupidity, I found myself not rooting against him last night on account of the fact that Phillip Rivers has the most unrootable face in the history of human beings.
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 02:24:37 PM
As much as Orton's success with Denver compels the meatball fanbase to digress to lower levels of stupidity, I found myself not rooting against him last night on account of the fact that Phillip Rivers has the most unrootable face in the history of human beings.
Orton's played well, no doubt, but I swear that 90 percent* of his yardage this year has been generated by receivers after the catch.
* May not be accurate
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 02:24:37 PM
As much as Orton's success with Denver compels the meatball fanbase to digress to lower levels of stupidity, I found myself not rooting against him last night on account of the fact that Phillip Rivers has the most unrootable face in the history of human beings.
Regretting this as I type it....
You really think this face
(http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/philip-rivers.jpg)
and this one
(http://thepurplekoolaid.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/philip-rivers.jpg)
is less rootable than this one...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sIvWMQvGKyA/SVqqMqybPLI/AAAAAAAABxM/X264IvgZk8w/s400/emo+jay+cutler.jpg)
or this one?
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/10/Jay_Cutler_Sleep_Walking.jpg)
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 02:24:37 PM
As much as Orton's success with Denver compels the meatball fanbase to digress to lower levels of stupidity, I found myself not rooting against him last night on account of the fact that Phillip Rivers has the most unrootable face in the history of human beings.
Regretting this as I type it....
You really think this face
http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/philip-rivers.jpg
and this one
http://thepurplekoolaid.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/philip-rivers.jpg
is less rootable than this one...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sIvWMQvGKyA/SVqqMqybPLI/AAAAAAAABxM/X264IvgZk8w/s400/emo+jay+cutler.jpg
or this one?
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/10/Jay_Cutler_Sleep_Walking.jpg
We get it, you hate Jay Cutler.
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 20, 2009, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 02:24:37 PM
As much as Orton's success with Denver compels the meatball fanbase to digress to lower levels of stupidity, I found myself not rooting against him last night on account of the fact that Phillip Rivers has the most unrootable face in the history of human beings.
Regretting this as I type it....
You really think this face
http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/philip-rivers.jpg
and this one
http://thepurplekoolaid.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/philip-rivers.jpg
is less rootable than this one...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sIvWMQvGKyA/SVqqMqybPLI/AAAAAAAABxM/X264IvgZk8w/s400/emo+jay+cutler.jpg
or this one?
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/10/Jay_Cutler_Sleep_Walking.jpg
We get it, you hate Jay Cutler.
I hate Philip Rivers too, for what it's worth.
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2009, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 02:24:37 PM
As much as Orton's success with Denver compels the meatball fanbase to digress to lower levels of stupidity, I found myself not rooting against him last night on account of the fact that Phillip Rivers has the most unrootable face in the history of human beings.
Orton's played well, no doubt, but I swear that 90 percent* of his yardage this year has been generated by receivers after the catch.
* May not be accurate
Its 675 out of 1465, so 46% actually. Cutler's at 476/1201 so about 40%.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 02:24:37 PM
As much as Orton's success with Denver compels the meatball fanbase to digress to lower levels of stupidity, I found myself not rooting against him last night on account of the fact that Phillip Rivers has the most unrootable face in the history of human beings.
Regretting this as I type it....
You really think this face
(http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/philip-rivers.jpg)
and this one
(http://thepurplekoolaid.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/philip-rivers.jpg)
is less rootable than this one...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sIvWMQvGKyA/SVqqMqybPLI/AAAAAAAABxM/X264IvgZk8w/s400/emo+jay+cutler.jpg)
or this one?
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/10/Jay_Cutler_Sleep_Walking.jpg)
Um... yes.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 20, 2009, 02:58:02 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: MAD on October 20, 2009, 02:24:37 PM
As much as Orton's success with Denver compels the meatball fanbase to digress to lower levels of stupidity, I found myself not rooting against him last night on account of the fact that Phillip Rivers has the most unrootable face in the history of human beings.
Regretting this as I type it....
You really think this face
(http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/philip-rivers.jpg)
and this one
(http://thepurplekoolaid.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/philip-rivers.jpg)
is less rootable than this one...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sIvWMQvGKyA/SVqqMqybPLI/AAAAAAAABxM/X264IvgZk8w/s400/emo+jay+cutler.jpg)
or this one?
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/10/Jay_Cutler_Sleep_Walking.jpg)
Um... yes.
I'll take it over this troglodyte:
(http://punchdrunkpostulates.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bendrunk.jpg)
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
I'll take it over this troglodyte:
(http://punchdrunkpostulates.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bendrunk.jpg)
Seriously, getting drunk with girls is so gay.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
I'll take it over this troglodyte:
(http://punchdrunkpostulates.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bendrunk.jpg)
Seriously, getting drunk with girls is so gay.
It's not. But making a point about quarterbacks based on random snapshots culled from a google image search is.
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
I'll take it over this troglodyte:
(http://punchdrunkpostulates.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bendrunk.jpg)
Seriously, getting drunk with girls is so gay.
It's not. But making a point about quarterbacks based on random snapshots culled from a google image search is.
PWND!11!
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
I'll take it over this troglodyte:
(http://punchdrunkpostulates.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bendrunk.jpg)
Seriously, getting drunk with girls is so gay.
It's not. But making a point about quarterbacks based on random snapshots culled from a google image search is.
The whole point was rootable faces, idito.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
I'll take it over this troglodyte:
(http://punchdrunkpostulates.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bendrunk.jpg)
Seriously, getting drunk with girls is so gay.
It's not. But making a point about quarterbacks based on random snapshots culled from a google image search is.
The whole point was rootable faces, idito.
Oh, so then the girl Rapelisberger is with would be a moot point, and his neanderthal like visage would actually have applied to the conversation?
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:34:05 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
I'll take it over this troglodyte:
(http://punchdrunkpostulates.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bendrunk.jpg)
Seriously, getting drunk with girls is so gay.
It's not. But making a point about quarterbacks based on random snapshots culled from a google image search is.
The whole point was rootable faces, idito.
Oh, so then the girl Rapelisberger is with would be a moot point, and his neanderthal like visage would actually have applied to the conversation?
(http://zoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jimmcmahon.jpg)
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:34:05 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
I'll take it over this troglodyte:
(http://punchdrunkpostulates.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bendrunk.jpg)
Seriously, getting drunk with girls is so gay.
It's not. But making a point about quarterbacks based on random snapshots culled from a google image search is.
The whole point was rootable faces, idito.
Oh, so then the girl Rapelisberger is with would be a moot point, and his neanderthal like visage would actually have applied to the conversation?
(http://zoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jimmcmahon.jpg)
Are you implying Jim McMahon was a douche? This revelation could surely shake the foundation of my entire worldview.
"Rock & Roll Quarterback"?
Yee gods, this McMahon fellow will surely show those stuffed shirts in the league office what the youth of today think of their "rules".
Speaking of Google Image Search, I found this very relevant picture of SKO and PenFoe.
(http://imgur.com/6h2m1.jpg)
Quote from: ChuckD on October 20, 2009, 04:09:14 PM
Speaking of Google Image Search, I found this very relevant picture of SKO and PenFoe.
(http://imgur.com/6h2m1.jpg)
I must ask who is who. Or does it even matter?
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 20, 2009, 04:09:14 PM
Speaking of Google Image Search, I found this very relevant picture of SKO and PenFoe.
(http://imgur.com/6h2m1.jpg)
I must ask who is who. Or does it even matter?
PenFoe's the one with the flesh wounds.
And Chuck D is the one with the coconuts. (not pictured)
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 20, 2009, 04:44:13 PM
And Chuck D is the one with the coconuts. (not pictured)
Come, Patsy!
Quote from: ChuckD on October 20, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 20, 2009, 04:09:14 PM
Speaking of Google Image Search, I found this very relevant picture of SKO and PenFoe.
(http://imgur.com/6h2m1.jpg)
I must ask who is who. Or does it even matter?
PenFoe's the one with the flesh wounds.
All right, we'll call it a draw.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 05:07:03 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 20, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 20, 2009, 04:09:14 PM
Speaking of Google Image Search, I found this very relevant picture of SKO and PenFoe.
(http://imgur.com/6h2m1.jpg)
I must ask who is who. Or does it even matter?
PenFoe's the one with the flesh wounds.
All right, we'll call it a draw.
The others may hate you PenFoe, but I'll always be mildly ambivalent towards your presence.
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2009, 06:50:56 PM
The others may hate you PenFoe, but I'll always be mildly ambivalent towards your presence.
And it is for this very reason that I continue my presence.
While others may strive for universal approval, I see mild ambivalence as my Shangri-La.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:36:32 PM
(http://zoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jimmcmahon.jpg)
The Bangles have a new LP out? KICK ASS!
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 20, 2009, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:36:32 PM
(http://zoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jimmcmahon.jpg)
The Bangles have a new LP out? KICK ASS!
Reagan even hates black people from beyond the grave? KICK ASS!
Cutler gets a two year extension for NOT BEING AS GOOD AS TEH NECKBEARD! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-21-bears-jay-cutler-chicago-oct21,0,3649519.story)
Quote from: fiveouts on October 20, 2009, 09:02:37 PM
Cutler gets a two year extension for NOT BEING AS GOOD AS TEH NECKBEARD! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-21-bears-jay-cutler-chicago-oct21,0,3649519.story)
Hmm. The extension worth possibly 30 million dollars. Milton Bradley signed for 30 million dollars. Must be the going price for team cancer. Dots..connected.
Quote from: SKO on October 20, 2009, 10:26:10 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 20, 2009, 09:02:37 PM
Cutler gets a two year extension for NOT BEING AS GOOD AS TEH NECKBEARD! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-21-bears-jay-cutler-chicago-oct21,0,3649519.story)
Hmm. The extension worth possibly 30 million dollars. Milton Bradley signed for 30 million dollars. Must be the going price for team cancer. Dots..connected.
Thank you Kapman
Quote from: Oleg on October 20, 2009, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on October 20, 2009, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 20, 2009, 03:36:32 PM
(http://zoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jimmcmahon.jpg)
The Bangles have a new LP out? KICK ASS!
Reagan even hates black people from beyond the grave? KICK ASS!
"White Heaven is for decent, good, God-fearing Christians who just happen to, well, hate everyone and everything relating to black people. That means no Muhammad Ali, no hip-hop music and no ******* Jesse Jackson."
Quote from: fiveouts on October 20, 2009, 09:02:37 PM
Cutler gets a two year extension for NOT BEING AS GOOD AS TEH NECKBEARD! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-21-bears-jay-cutler-chicago-oct21,0,3649519.story)
He could still lead the Bears to lots of sploogeworthy Super Bowls, but this sentence is ridiculous.
QuoteOne knock on Cutler is he hasn't been a winner. But that might be changing. His record with the Bears is 3-2 after going 17-20 with the Broncos.
HE'S TURNED THINGS AROUND!
Boo. (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/omiyale_to_stay_put_at_left_gu.html)
QuoteFrank Omiyale is expected to remain the starter at left guard based on the information gathered in the locker room. There's been speculation that Josh Beekman, who started 16 games there last season, would replace Omiyale. But the Bears are showing that they believe in taking time to let a unit with three new starters gel.
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2009, 02:01:09 PM
Boo. (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/omiyale_to_stay_put_at_left_gu.html)
QuoteFrank Omiyale is expected to remain the starter at left guard based on the information gathered in the locker room. There's been speculation that Josh Beekman, who started 16 games there last season, would replace Omiyale. But the Bears are showing that they believe in taking time to let a unit with three new starters gel.
Since I'm sort of a football idiot, I really have no idea -- does "gelling" matter? I feel like I've heard this a lot lately. I can't imagine it helps to mesh with the linemen next to you if you can't block the dude directly in your face.
Quote from: Eli on October 21, 2009, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2009, 02:01:09 PM
Boo. (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/omiyale_to_stay_put_at_left_gu.html)
QuoteFrank Omiyale is expected to remain the starter at left guard based on the information gathered in the locker room. There's been speculation that Josh Beekman, who started 16 games there last season, would replace Omiyale. But the Bears are showing that they believe in taking time to let a unit with three new starters gel.
Since I'm sort of a football idiot, I really have no idea -- does "gelling" matter? I feel like I've heard this a lot lately. I can't imagine it helps to mesh with the linemen next to you if you can't block the dude directly in your face.
To take that one step further, they've been practicing for what, 3 full months almost? How much time could it take?
Also, I can't imagine there's a whole lot of improvisation on the offensive line, as if one guy needs to know where the other's going to be. You either get to your assignment or you don't.
Quote from: Eli on October 21, 2009, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2009, 02:01:09 PM
Boo. (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/omiyale_to_stay_put_at_left_gu.html)
QuoteFrank Omiyale is expected to remain the starter at left guard based on the information gathered in the locker room. There's been speculation that Josh Beekman, who started 16 games there last season, would replace Omiyale. But the Bears are showing that they believe in taking time to let a unit with three new starters gel.
Since I'm sort of a football idiot, I really have no idea -- does "gelling" matter? I feel like I've heard this a lot lately. I can't imagine it helps to mesh with the linemen next to you if you can't block the dude directly in your face.
Time for another group trip to the FBI firing range!
gelling = tripping your guy so you can block Omiyale's guy too. These things take time.
Quote from: Eli on October 21, 2009, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2009, 02:01:09 PM
Boo. (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/omiyale_to_stay_put_at_left_gu.html)
QuoteFrank Omiyale is expected to remain the starter at left guard based on the information gathered in the locker room. There's been speculation that Josh Beekman, who started 16 games there last season, would replace Omiyale. But the Bears are showing that they believe in taking time to let a unit with three new starters gel.
Since I'm sort of a football idiot, I really have no idea -- does "gelling" matter? I feel like I've heard this a lot lately. I can't imagine it helps to mesh with the linemen next to you if you can't block the dude directly in your face.
No. It's an absolutely retarded way of saying "we payed 11 millions bucks for a guy who couldn't even start in his natural position of tackle when he was in Carolina, so now we have to ride this out and hope he magically plays well so Jerry can point to his great 'find." Why is the offensive line somehow excused from the roster turnover that's a part of every major sport? It's bull crap. Take a look at the 2005 Bears. The 2004 Bears lined up Qasim Mitchell, Ruben Brown (when healthy, which wasn't often that year), Olin Kreutz, Steve Edwards, and John Tait left to right and that unit gave up a team record 66 sacks and cleared the way for the 25th ranked rushing offense in the league.
The next year had Tait shifted to left tackle, Brown at Left, Kreutz, Terrence Metcalf, and Fred Miller, so two completely new starters and one position change with Tait. That group allowed 35 fewer sacks and improved the rushing attack from 25th to 8th in the league. More importantly for our purposes they averaged 121 ypg rushing over the first 5 games. They did improve as the season went on, since they averaged 131.2 ypg for the whole season, but still, it's a piss poor excuse for the sad sack of crap Omiyale has been this year.
On the goal line carry where Forte first fumbled the guy that met him was Babineaux, Omiyale's guy. On the second carry, the one where Forte lost the fumble? Yeah, that was a blown assignment by Omiyale that allowed Babineaux to whack Forte and knock it out. On the slant pass to Knox that was an EASY touchdown had it not been deflected, the guy who got his hand up and batted it down was Babineaux, Omiyale's guy. Omiyale fucking sucks and the only thing keeping him in that line up is the fat fucking contract Angelo handed to a career back up thinking he was getting a "steal."
Cedric was blackballed (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/21/bengals-benson-believes-bears-blackballed-him/).
"The Chicago Bears made running back Cedric Benson the fourth overall pick in the 2005 draft. After three disappointing seasons and a pair of alcohol-related arrests (drunken driving and drunken boating) in a one-month span, the Bears cut him loose.
So that was the end of it, right?
Not so, says Benson.
Benson believes that the Bears spread rumors about him and told the Bengals "nothing but bad things.""
Quote from: BH on October 21, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
Cedric was blackballed (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/21/bengals-benson-believes-bears-blackballed-him/).
Racist.
Pisa Tino's out for the season. (http://www.chicagobears.com/DailyBlogs.asp?DAILY_BLOG_DATE=10/21/09)
Quote from: B-B-Bears on October 21, 2009, 05:46:50 PM
Pisa Tino's out for the season. (http://www.chicagobears.com/DailyBlogs.asp?DAILY_BLOG_DATE=10/21/09)
Hellen is back at practice. (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/10/hillenmeyer-returns-to-bears-practice.html)
Quote from: BH on October 21, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
Cedric was blackballed (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/21/bengals-benson-believes-bears-blackballed-him/).
"The Chicago Bears made running back Cedric Benson the fourth overall pick in the 2005 draft. After three disappointing seasons and a pair of alcohol-related arrests (drunken driving and drunken boating) in a one-month span, the Bears cut him loose.
So that was the end of it, right?
Not so, says Benson.
Benson believes that the Bears spread rumors about him and told the Bengals "nothing but bad things.""
Given the circus the media creates around Chicago and how quickly it paints good players in the worst possible light over things entirely unrelated to on-field performance...I have some empathy for Benson. I'm glad he's getting a fair shake--which is more than most high-profile athletes get in the city.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 21, 2009, 06:32:42 PM
Quote from: BH on October 21, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
Cedric was blackballed (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/21/bengals-benson-believes-bears-blackballed-him/).
"The Chicago Bears made running back Cedric Benson the fourth overall pick in the 2005 draft. After three disappointing seasons and a pair of alcohol-related arrests (drunken driving and drunken boating) in a one-month span, the Bears cut him loose.
So that was the end of it, right?
Not so, says Benson.
Benson believes that the Bears spread rumors about him and told the Bengals "nothing but bad things.""
Given the circus the media creates around Chicago and how quickly it paints good players in the worst possible light over things entirely unrelated to on-field performance...I have some empathy for Benson. I'm glad he's getting a fair shake--which is more than most high-profile athletes get in the city.
So what about his mediocre on-field performance (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6900.msg195455#msg195455) in Chicago (meaning the 3.8 ypc)
Quote from: PenFoe on October 21, 2009, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 21, 2009, 06:32:42 PM
Quote from: BH on October 21, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
Cedric was blackballed (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/21/bengals-benson-believes-bears-blackballed-him/).
"The Chicago Bears made running back Cedric Benson the fourth overall pick in the 2005 draft. After three disappointing seasons and a pair of alcohol-related arrests (drunken driving and drunken boating) in a one-month span, the Bears cut him loose.
So that was the end of it, right?
Not so, says Benson.
Benson believes that the Bears spread rumors about him and told the Bengals "nothing but bad things.""
Given the circus the media creates around Chicago and how quickly it paints good players in the worst possible light over things entirely unrelated to on-field performance...I have some empathy for Benson. I'm glad he's getting a fair shake--which is more than most high-profile athletes get in the city.
So what about his mediocre on-field performance (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6900.msg195455#msg195455) in Chicago (meaning the 3.8 ypc)
That he and Forte are averaging the same is probably an indictment of the o-line instead of either RB?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 21, 2009, 10:03:40 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 21, 2009, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 21, 2009, 06:32:42 PM
Quote from: BH on October 21, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
Cedric was blackballed (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/21/bengals-benson-believes-bears-blackballed-him/).
"The Chicago Bears made running back Cedric Benson the fourth overall pick in the 2005 draft. After three disappointing seasons and a pair of alcohol-related arrests (drunken driving and drunken boating) in a one-month span, the Bears cut him loose.
So that was the end of it, right?
Not so, says Benson.
Benson believes that the Bears spread rumors about him and told the Bengals "nothing but bad things.""
Given the circus the media creates around Chicago and how quickly it paints good players in the worst possible light over things entirely unrelated to on-field performance...I have some empathy for Benson. I'm glad he's getting a fair shake--which is more than most high-profile athletes get in the city.
So what about his mediocre on-field performance (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6900.msg195455#msg195455) in Chicago (meaning the 3.8 ypc)
That he and Forte are averaging the same is probably an indictment of the o-line instead of either RB?
The problem with Cedric wasn't his abilities or lack of production for the most part. He was solid as a counterpart to Thomas Jones in 05 and 06. Nobody could run behind that line in 2007, nor could they pass (they gave up 43 sacks). Anybody was doomed. It's that in Cincinnati he's actually given effort and running with a sense of purpose after realizing the NFL isn't just a guaranteed luxury in his life. I get annoyed with the Chicago media when they harass a guy like Cutler for a few boring press conferences, Cedric's career in Chicago, however, deserved all of the criticism, as he never should have been drafted and followed that with the following career highlights (cut from an article I wrote about him this summer)-
2005- Determined to work their new "power runningback" into the offense, the Bears declare an open competition for the starting job during training camp. Thomas Jones wins, because he was actually In training camp, unlike Benson, who MISSED THE ENTIRE CAMP WHILE HE WAS HOLDING OUT FOR MORE MONEY. Undaunted, Benson declares that he'll win the starting job by the third game of the season. He doesn't, as Thomas Jones has a far more effective season than Benson has had in his entire career, rushing for 1,335 yards and 9 tds with a 4.3 ypa average. Benson gets one start that year, against the 49ers, and leaves before half time with an injury.
2006- Upset that the Bears still seem determined to replace him after his outstanding year, Thomas Jones holds out of minicamps and is benched during training camp. The Bears are ready to hand the job to Benson (who predicts a 1,700 yard season) before he gets hurt and misses most of the rest of training camp and the preseason, leaving the job in Jones's hands, who again goes out and has a better year than Benson rushing for 1,210 yds and 6 tds. Benson actually plays effectively as the second back, averaging 4.1 ypc. During the Superbowl, however, Benson once more gets injured early and sits out the rest of the game.
2007- The Bears, determined to rid themselves of a highly productive runningback, for whatever reason, trade Thomas Jones to the New York Jets and annoint Benson the starter for the 2007 season. Benson responds with a 3.4 ypc average, and despite playing behind a subpar line (still, more or less the same line that Jones and Forte have had to work with), he still gets his fair share of the blame for his indecisiveness, inability to hit the hole, and complete lack of agility. Benson gets injured AGAIN against the Broncos and misses the last five games of the season.
During the 2007 offseason the Bears remain adamant that Benson will be in the mix for the starting runningback job, and they draft Matt Forte to push him in training camp. The Bears were forced by Benson's own hand to release him, however, when he got arrested twice in two weeks for alcohol related incidents (making it
four times that he'd been arrested since college).
So really my problem with Benson was the entitled attitude, the contract holdout, the constant injuries and THEN the ineffective play, which I realized wasn't entirely his fault.
LSA, SKO.
I think the reason the Bears traded Jones to NYJ was his (polite and deserved) demand for more money. Jones was due for a raise after 2005 and the Bears couldn't afford it. Angelo and Jones made a deal that said Jones could play one more year under his current contract and Angelo would agree to trade him afterward to a team that would give him a deal. After the year Benson had in 2006, it seemed right to move forward with him and let Jones go get his paper in NY, which he did.
I don't fault Angelo for that. I fault him for drafting Benson in the first place and Garrett Wolfe to replace Jones. D'ur and D'ur'er.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 22, 2009, 08:13:46 AM
LSA, SKO.
I think the reason the Bears traded Jones to NYJ was his (polite and deserved) demand for more money. Jones was due for a raise after 2005 and the Bears couldn't afford it. Angelo and Jones made a deal that said Jones could play one more year under his current contract and Angelo would agree to trade him afterward to a team that would give him a deal. After the year Benson had in 2006, it seemed right to move forward with him and let Jones go get his paper in NY, which he did.
I don't fault Angelo for that. I fault him for drafting Benson in the first place and Garrett Wolfe to replace Jones. D'ur and D'ur'er.
This.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 22, 2009, 08:13:46 AM
LSA, SKO.
I think the reason the Bears traded Jones to NYJ was his (polite and deserved) demand for more money. Jones was due for a raise after 2005 and the Bears couldn't afford it. Angelo and Jones made a deal that said Jones could play one more year under his current contract and Angelo would agree to trade him afterward to a team that would give him a deal. After the year Benson had in 2006, it seemed right to move forward with him and let Jones go get his paper in NY, which he did.
I don't fault Angelo for that. I fault him for drafting Benson in the first place and Garrett Wolfe to replace Jones. D'ur and D'ur'er.
I fault Ron Turner for running Garrett Wolfe in between the tackles and even in short yardage situations. Must be a Turner family trait as Norvy has now blown a 4th and 2 with the game on the line against the Ravens and a chance at an opening drive touchdown against the Broncos by running Darren Sproles straight up the gut both times.
Quote from: SKO on October 22, 2009, 08:59:04 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 22, 2009, 08:13:46 AM
LSA, SKO.
I think the reason the Bears traded Jones to NYJ was his (polite and deserved) demand for more money. Jones was due for a raise after 2005 and the Bears couldn't afford it. Angelo and Jones made a deal that said Jones could play one more year under his current contract and Angelo would agree to trade him afterward to a team that would give him a deal. After the year Benson had in 2006, it seemed right to move forward with him and let Jones go get his paper in NY, which he did.
I don't fault Angelo for that. I fault him for drafting Benson in the first place and Garrett Wolfe to replace Jones. D'ur and D'ur'er.
I fault Ron Turner for running Garrett Wolfe in between the tackles and even in short yardage situations. Must be a Turner family trait as Norvy has now blown a 4th and 2 with the game on the line against the Ravens and a chance at an opening drive touchdown against the Broncos by running Darren Sproles straight up the gut both times.
I wasn't a fan of the Garret Wolfe draft pick, but if used properly Wofle could be a good asset. Of course that assumes intelligence on Turner's part.
Garret Wolfe looks like he is wearing the smallest shoulder pads they have, and they are still to big for him.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-23-bears-ron-turner-oct23,0,2509088,print.column (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-23-bears-ron-turner-oct23,0,2509088,print.column)
I'm not going to quote anything because the whole article is worth reading. I'll hang up and wait for BC's thoughtful rebuttal.
If they made better use of the running game, play action would be even more effective.
Quote from: R-V on October 23, 2009, 10:04:09 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-23-bears-ron-turner-oct23,0,2509088,print.column (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-23-bears-ron-turner-oct23,0,2509088,print.column)
I'm not going to quote anything because the whole article is worth reading. I'll hang up and wait for BC's thoughtful rebuttal.
I think the scouts comments should carry some weight in his defense, they study (and have
access to way more footage on top of it) the details way more. But the actual "facts" used
to discount the perceptions are a joke. For starters, 74% of runs in the tackle box is calling
a lot of runs up the gut, but who gives a shit, we all know the linemen can't get outside
to block. And "50" formations isn't a real stat, most of that is just juggling receiver positions.
Non-idiotic fans don't think Turner runs a high school offense or anything. They complain that
the Bears continue to pretend that power football is what they are about. They try and shove
the ball down the defenses throat in short yardage and red zone situations when they obviously
can't. Sure, plenty of blame lies with the offensive players (mostly the line) for not executing,
but when it happens every time then it's the coaches job to call some plays that might actually
work. Honestly, when this is the best you can come up with for creativity:
Quote
They have used Greg Olsen as a fullback, Devin Hester as a quarterback and Matt Forte as a wide
receiver. They have used empty backfields and the Wildcat. They have played the shotgun on 69 snaps.
That's sad. The shotgun has not been creative in 20+ years, empty backfields in 10+.
They've run the wildcat (also Hester as QB, nice double count) all of, what, once?
I don't think Turner is an awful coordinator in general. But his desire or Lovie's mandates in
short yardage (and critical) moments of the game to play power football are going to kill
this team's playoff chances.
Quote from: Pre on October 23, 2009, 10:56:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 23, 2009, 10:04:09 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-23-bears-ron-turner-oct23,0,2509088,print.column (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-23-bears-ron-turner-oct23,0,2509088,print.column)
I'm not going to quote anything because the whole article is worth reading. I'll hang up and wait for BC's thoughtful rebuttal.
I think the scouts comments should carry some weight in his defense, they study (and have
access to way more footage on top of it) the details way more. But the actual "facts" used
to discount the perceptions are a joke. For starters, 74% of runs in the tackle box is calling
a lot of runs up the gut, but who gives a shit, we all know the linemen can't get outside
to block. And "50" formations isn't a real stat, most of that is just juggling receiver positions.
Non-idiotic fans don't think Turner runs a high school offense or anything. They complain that
the Bears continue to pretend that power football is what they are about. They try and shove
the ball down the defenses throat in short yardage and red zone situations when they obviously
can't. Sure, plenty of blame lies with the offensive players (mostly the line) for not executing,
but when it happens every time then it's the coaches job to call some plays that might actually
work. Honestly, when this is the best you can come up with for creativity:
Quote
They have used Greg Olsen as a fullback, Devin Hester as a quarterback and Matt Forte as a wide
receiver. They have used empty backfields and the Wildcat. They have played the shotgun on 69 snaps.
That's sad. The shotgun has not been creative in 20+ years, empty backfields in 10+.
They've run the wildcat (also Hester as QB, nice double count) all of, what, once?
I don't think Turner is an awful coordinator in general. But his desire or Lovie's mandates in
short yardage (and critical) moments of the game to play power football are going to kill
this team's playoff chances.
Dammit, Pre. You're supposed to give BC a chance to say something stupid before you respond with reasonable criticisms of Turner. Now he's just going to agree with what you said.
I agree that the 'inside run' stats were strange, only because of the way Pompei framed them. I can't believe fans actually think the Bears need to run more plays outside the tackle. If anything, as I think SKO has mentioned, they need more quick-hitting run plays right up the middle, instead of waiting for Omiyale's fat ass to pull around the end.
Don't make me post Rick Morrissey's turd from today. Because I'll do it.
Quote from: R-V on October 23, 2009, 11:10:15 AM
Dammit, Pre. You're supposed to give BC a chance to say something stupid before you respond with reasonable criticisms of Turner. Now he's just going to agree with what you said.
Whatever.
In Turner's defense (What?), I will grant that he has had some shitty offensive lines to "work" with. The best play-caller in the world is going to look awful when his quarterback doesn't have time and his running back is getting hit in the backfield.
**gets ready for hilarious overreaction posts**
**OVERREACTS!@!!))***
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 25, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
**gets ready for hilarious overreaction posts**
I'm just pissed my TiVo won't let me go back and start this game from the beginning. Everytime I press play, it plays from the beginning for a few seconds and goes straight to live action. Based off of the score, I'm not sure I wanted to see the first quarter, though.
Well, that was a very inspiring start.
Or something.
Tigers and Bears. And playing like Lions.
Oh, my.
anger
I still hate this team's secondary.
Can I overreact now or should I wait for 28-0?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 25, 2009, 03:59:52 PM
Tigers and Bears. And playing like Lions.
Oh, my.
You should play linebacker for the Bears.
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 25, 2009, 04:01:02 PM
Can I overreact now or should I wait for 28-0?
If you did hold off until 28-0, you didn't have to wait very long.
At least the Illini scored points this weekend. Good grief.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070sfo.htm
OK, I didn't expect this when I made my post. Overreaction is not an apt term when applied to this game.
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 25, 2009, 04:25:22 PM
OK, I didn't expect this when I made my post. Overreaction is not an apt term when applied to this game.
Really no reaction--this is so ugly it's not even worth caring. It's still mathematically possible for the Bears to go 2-0 against the Vikings, split with the Pack, and go 2-0 against the Lions...but this team is a secondary and offensive line away from being good. In other words, it's probably going to be a few years.
And Snakes on a Plane is on FX.
Oh man, I can't wait to hear Buffone and O'Bradovich on the postgame.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199301030buf.htm
There is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excuse for any team at any level to be unprepared for a game... Teams can be outplayed, coaches can make poor in-game decisions, or the breaks can just not fall a certain way... But today the Bears simply were not ready for the game.
YES! BEARS ON THE BOARD!
31-3 at half, yikes.
Does the NFL use a running clock in these situations?
Genius decision to take 3 before the half.
If you kick the 3, it's still a 4 possession game. Scoring the TD is the only way to make it a 3 possession game.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2009, 04:23:46 PM
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070sfo.htm
Yeah, but...
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200309070.shtml (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200309070.shtml)
I was at that game. My brother left the stadium chanting "First place Cubs!" and "Your quarterback is gay!". He's a classy guy, my brother.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 25, 2009, 04:41:21 PM
Genius decision to take 3 before the half.
If you kick the 3, it's still a 4 possession game. Scoring the TD is the only way to make it a 3 possession game.
Seriously, are you retarded?
Hey, at least they'll get a good first round pick this year...
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 25, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
Hey, at least they'll get a good first round pick this year...
Damn the Bears for trading for Cutler
The Bears somehow managed to embarrass themselves worse than the Illinois football cooperative. And if you thought WATCHING that pile of afterbirth was bad, just be glad you weren't stuck in your car listening to Joniak not telling you how many yards the play went for while Thayer explained that the Bears were starting to slow CedBen down.
I didn't watch the second half, how close did Omiyale and the Gang come to getting Cutler killed?
Quote from: R-V on October 25, 2009, 06:58:12 PM
The Bears somehow managed to embarrass themselves worse than the Illinois football cooperative. And if you thought WATCHING that pile of afterbirth was bad, just be glad you weren't stuck in your car listening to Joniak not telling you how many yards the play went for while Thayer explained that the Bears were starting to slow CedBen down.
I didn't watch the second half, how close did Omiyale and the Gang come to getting Cutler killed?
They should have pulled him in the first quarter.
Quote from: R-V on October 25, 2009, 06:58:12 PM
The Bears somehow managed to embarrass themselves worse than the Illinois football cooperative. And if you thought WATCHING that pile of afterbirth was bad, just be glad you weren't stuck in your car listening to Joniak not telling you how many yards the play went for while Thayer explained that the Bears were starting to slow CedBen down.
I didn't watch the second half, how close did Omiyale and the Gang come to getting Cutler killed?
If you thought they weren't getting any push before this game, well then sir. Well. Then.
Even Jesus H. Beekman wouldn't have saved this one.
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 25, 2009, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 25, 2009, 06:58:12 PM
The Bears somehow managed to embarrass themselves worse than the Illinois football cooperative. And if you thought WATCHING that pile of afterbirth was bad, just be glad you weren't stuck in your car listening to Joniak not telling you how many yards the play went for while Thayer explained that the Bears were starting to slow CedBen down.
I didn't watch the second half, how close did Omiyale and the Gang come to getting Cutler killed?
If you thought they weren't getting any push before this game, well then sir. Well. Then.
Even Jesus H. Beekman wouldn't have saved this one.
Seriously, Frostee Rucker was the DOOMbringer today.
Wow. That was well, disappointing. I just hate the fact that the mouth breathers will be out in full force for the rest of the week about Orton.
Quote from: air2300 on October 25, 2009, 07:44:29 PM
Wow. That was well, disappointing. I just hate the fact that the mouth breathers will be out in full force for the rest of the week about Orton and Benson.
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 25, 2009, 08:10:35 PM
Quote from: air2300 on October 25, 2009, 07:44:29 PM
Wow. That was well, disappointing. I just hate the fact that the mouth breathers will be out in full force for the rest of the week about Orton and Benson.
Benson is at peace with himself. You have to be happy for him. He's so comfortable in his own skin. And how about that winning smile!
I'm so happy that Benson got revenge against the Bears for picking him #4 overall, putting up with his holdout, giving him millions of dollars, handing him an (undeserved) starting job, standing by him after his first DUI, then finally releasing him after his second within a month. Its great to see stories of perseverance like that.
Quote from: IrishYeti on October 25, 2009, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 25, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
Hey, at least they'll get a good first round pick this year...
Damn the Bears for trading for Cutler
Nah. But even when the do the right thing it bites them in the ass.
Quote from: fiveouts on October 25, 2009, 08:44:27 PM
I'm so happy that Benson got revenge against the Bears for picking him #4 overall, putting up with his holdout, giving him millions of dollars, handing him an (undeserved) starting job, standing by him after his first DUI, then finally releasing him after his second within a month. Its great to see stories of perseverance like that.
Me too. I'm as happy about this as I was about Dennis Eckersley cleaning himself up after he left the Cubs.
Do fans in other cities have to deal with this kind of shit as often as we do? I guess in Cincinnati they do. This was their Super Bowl. Hip hooray and fuck them.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
Do fans in other cities have to deal with this kind of shit as often as we do? I guess in Cincinnati they do. This was their Super Bowl. Hip hooray and fuck them.
Pitchers and catchers report in five months so we've got that going for us.
Quote from: fiveouts on October 25, 2009, 08:44:27 PM
I'm so happy that Benson got revenge against the Bears for picking him #4 overall, putting up with his holdout, giving him millions of dollars, handing him an (undeserved) starting job, standing by him after his first DUI, then finally releasing him after his second within a month. Its great to see stories of perseverance like that.
But you see, what you list are facts. Facts don't mean shit when they get in the way of a good story.
Quote from: fiveouts on October 25, 2009, 08:44:27 PM
I'm so happy that Benson got revenge against the Bears for picking him #4 overall, putting up with his holdout, giving him millions of dollars, handing him an (undeserved) starting job, standing by him after his first DUI, then finally releasing him after his second within a month. Its great to see stories of perseverance like that.
He was blackballed dammit. The Bears kept him out of the league for like 5 months.
Christ, the front office can't even blackball a guy effectively.
Quote from: CT III on October 25, 2009, 10:11:51 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on October 25, 2009, 08:44:27 PM
I'm so happy that Benson got revenge against the Bears for picking him #4 overall, putting up with his holdout, giving him millions of dollars, handing him an (undeserved) starting job, standing by him after his first DUI, then finally releasing him after his second within a month. Its great to see stories of perseverance like that.
He was blackballed dammit. The Bears kept him out of the league for like 5 months.
Christ, the front office can't even blackball a guy effectively.
That's because their interim coach gave the Bengals a favorable report on the kid. DOOOOOOM!!! FIRE LOVIE!!!
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 25, 2009, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
Do fans in other cities have to deal with this kind of shit as often as we do? I guess in Cincinnati they do. This was their Super Bowl. Hip hooray and fuck them.
Pitchers and catchers report in five months so we've got that going for us.
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Who's the mime in front of Manning?
No gutless asshole thread after that one? This place has really gone downhill.
Quote from: B-B-Bears on October 25, 2009, 11:22:31 PM
No gutless asshole thread after that one? This place has really gone downhill.
All I know is Angelo is a idiot for trading Orton and waiving Tank Johnson and Cedric Benson.
Did you see the facial hair on benson it was almost stubble!
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 25, 2009, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
Do fans in other cities have to deal with this kind of shit as often as we do? I guess in Cincinnati they do. This was their Super Bowl. Hip hooray and fuck them.
Pitchers and catchers report in five months so we've got that going for us.
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Well all I can ANGER is that RAGE and ANGER really ANGERANGER and quite frankly RAGE and I just don't RAGE how this ANGER is going to get any ANGER and the RAGE is just ANGER without any draft picks RAGE.
Quote from: B-B-Bears on October 25, 2009, 11:22:31 PM
No gutless asshole thread after that one? This place has really gone downhill.
Gutless assholes threads are overreactions to minor hiccups in a marathon of a season.
That game yesterday, on the other hand... I think maybe we'd all just as soon not talk about that for now.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on October 26, 2009, 08:30:51 AM
Quote from: B-B-Bears on October 25, 2009, 11:22:31 PM
No gutless asshole thread after that one? This place has really gone downhill.
Gutless assholes threads are overreactions to minor hiccups in a marathon of a season.
That game yesterday, on the other hand... I think maybe we'd all just as soon not talk about that for now.
Imagine if Jake Utler was a morgan? I can't, but could you?
We need T.O.
What the hell?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html)
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 08:51:58 AM
What the hell?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html)
From the comments: Classic.
"1. Look at his contract. Perhaps the Bears are trying to keep him from reaching certain levels by holding him out from time to time. I have no idea what his contract looks like, I'm just sayin."
The mouthbreathers who were pissed about Cutler not smiling are now furious that Harris and Vasher were smiling yesterday. What this team needs is either more or less EMOTION.
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 08:51:58 AM
What the hell?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html)
Christ. Cut him this offseason. Cut Vasher too, cut Pace while they're at it. Free up all the cap space you can, then just go Dan Snyder on everything and sign every overrated free agent you can find. Just burn this fucking thing down. Anything else I can grossly overreact to?
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 08:59:05 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 08:51:58 AM
What the hell?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html)
Christ. Cut him this offseason. Cut Vasher too, cut Pace while they're at it. Free up all the cap space you can, then just go Dan Snyder on everything and sign every overrated free agent you can find. Just burn this fucking thing down. Anything else I can grossly overreact to?
I just have no idea what's going on with Tommie. Jerry says he's healthy, then Lovie says he's not. Then Tommie says he is. There must've been extra tard juice in the water cooler at Halas Hall this week.
As for the next entry (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/there_is_no_making_sense_of_th.html) on Biggs' blog, I found two comments that actually make some sense.
QuoteBy Mike S on October 26, 2009 4:00 AM
An Unemotional take on the Bears game:
1) Offense:
a) It would appear 99% of the problem is based on the offensive line.
They can't run or pass block. You could put any RB out there and he couldn't get more than 2.5 yards per carry (except for maybe Barry Sanders-because he was never used to having an OL).
The pass blocking is of course atrocious as well. Anyone wonder why Cutler is only taking 3 step drops? Because the the OL can't protect him for 5 and 7 step drops. Hence we have no deep passing game.
b) thoughts on Jay Cutler: He is probably as good or better than expected. We would probably 2 more losses (SEA, PIT) without him (although Orton probably would have won the GB game). If you blame those interceptions yesterday on him you weren't really watching the game. When you get hit every time you drop back then even Peyton Manning is going to throw picks. If Cutler were more immature he would be calling out the OL publicly but of course that doesn't help.
c) I predict Josh Beekman will replace Frank Omiyale this week. I doubt we will see other changes.
2) Defense:
a) the secondary is actually a little better than what I thought it would be. We could win with the secondary as it is if there was a consistent pass rush.
b) Adewale Oglunleye and Alex Brown just aren't very good pass rushers. Of course they could look really really good if there was penetration from the 3 technique DT which would prevent the opposing QB from stepping up in the pocket-(something that makes average DE's look like probowlers).
QuoteBy Joe Felicelli on October 26, 2009 8:45 AM
Omiyale and Pace may be the worst left side in my lifetime as a Bear fan. It might even be worse than when Stan Thomas was at left tackle. Qasim Mitchell, Mike Gandy, John St. Clair....this is no better. The only way Pace can block anybody is when they try to bull rush him, as he can get into them and lean on them until they collapse. Omiyale can't even get out of his stance to make a block. He seems to think he can extend with a hand punch, and that is enough to stop his opponent. Shaffer at RT, Beekman at LG, and a move to LT for Williams is the right call to make coming up on Cleveland. That is pretty well a non-contact scrimmage for us, so it should be a good chance to find out if we can actually protect Cutler for more than 2 seconds.
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 08:59:05 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 08:51:58 AM
What the hell?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html)
Christ. Cut him this offseason. Cut Vasher too, cut Pace while they're at it. Free up all the cap space you can, then just go Dan Snyder on everything and sign every overrated free agent you can find. Just burn this fucking thing down. Anything else I can grossly overreact to?
I just have no idea what's going on with Tommie. Jerry says he's healthy, then Lovie says he's not. Then Tommie says he is. There must've been extra tard juice in the water cooler at Halas Hall this week.
As for the next entry (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/there_is_no_making_sense_of_th.html) on Biggs' blog, I found two comments that actually make some sense.
QuoteBy Mike S on October 26, 2009 4:00 AM
An Unemotional take on the Bears game:
1) Offense:
a) It would appear 99% of the problem is based on the offensive line.
They can't run or pass block. You could put any RB out there and he couldn't get more than 2.5 yards per carry (except for maybe Barry Sanders-because he was never used to having an OL).
The pass blocking is of course atrocious as well. Anyone wonder why Cutler is only taking 3 step drops? Because the the OL can't protect him for 5 and 7 step drops. Hence we have no deep passing game.
b) thoughts on Jay Cutler: He is probably as good or better than expected. We would probably 2 more losses (SEA, PIT) without him (although Orton probably would have won the GB game). If you blame those interceptions yesterday on him you weren't really watching the game. When you get hit every time you drop back then even Peyton Manning is going to throw picks. If Cutler were more immature he would be calling out the OL publicly but of course that doesn't help.
c) I predict Josh Beekman will replace Frank Omiyale this week. I doubt we will see other changes.
2) Defense:
a) the secondary is actually a little better than what I thought it would be. We could win with the secondary as it is if there was a consistent pass rush.
b) Adewale Oglunleye and Alex Brown just aren't very good pass rushers. Of course they could look really really good if there was penetration from the 3 technique DT which would prevent the opposing QB from stepping up in the pocket-(something that makes average DE's look like probowlers).
QuoteBy Joe Felicelli on October 26, 2009 8:45 AM
Omiyale and Pace may be the worst left side in my lifetime as a Bear fan. It might even be worse than when Stan Thomas was at left tackle. Qasim Mitchell, Mike Gandy, John St. Clair....this is no better. The only way Pace can block anybody is when they try to bull rush him, as he can get into them and lean on them until they collapse. Omiyale can't even get out of his stance to make a block. He seems to think he can extend with a hand punch, and that is enough to stop his opponent. Shaffer at RT, Beekman at LG, and a move to LT for Williams is the right call to make coming up on Cleveland. That is pretty well a non-contact scrimmage for us, so it should be a good chance to find out if we can actually protect Cutler for more than 2 seconds.
I've got no problem with that guy's proposed offensive line alignment. It can't be any worse than what's out there right now, and they may as well give Williams his shot at the left tackle position anyway. It's what they drafted him to be, and other than a few penalties he's actually looked alright. Pace and Omiyale just suck, and there's no excuse that can really be made for them at this point.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2009, 10:38:07 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 25, 2009, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
Do fans in other cities have to deal with this kind of shit as often as we do? I guess in Cincinnati they do. This was their Super Bowl. Hip hooray and fuck them.
Pitchers and catchers report in five months so we've got that going for us.
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Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 09:25:19 AM
I've got no problem with that guy's proposed offensive line alignment. It can't be any worse than what's out there right now, and they may as well give Williams his shot at the left tackle position anyway. It's what they drafted him to be, and other than a few penalties he's actually looked alright. Pace and Omiyale just suck, and there's no excuse that can really be made for them at this point.
Maybe they still haven't gelled?
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 08:59:05 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 08:51:58 AM
What the hell?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/confusing_case_harris_says_sor.html)
Christ. Cut him this offseason. Cut Vasher too, cut Pace while they're at it. Free up all the cap space you can, then just go Dan Snyder on everything and sign every overrated free agent you can find. Just burn this fucking thing down. Anything else I can grossly overreact to?
I just have no idea what's going on with Tommie. Jerry says he's healthy, then Lovie says he's not. Then Tommie says he is. There must've been extra tard juice in the water cooler at Halas Hall this week.
As for the next entry (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/10/there_is_no_making_sense_of_th.html) on Biggs' blog, I found two comments that actually make some sense.
QuoteBy Mike S on October 26, 2009 4:00 AM
An Unemotional take on the Bears game:
1) Offense:
a) It would appear 99% of the problem is based on the offensive line.
They can't run or pass block. You could put any RB out there and he couldn't get more than 2.5 yards per carry (except for maybe Barry Sanders-because he was never used to having an OL).
The pass blocking is of course atrocious as well. Anyone wonder why Cutler is only taking 3 step drops? Because the the OL can't protect him for 5 and 7 step drops. Hence we have no deep passing game.
b) thoughts on Jay Cutler: He is probably as good or better than expected. We would probably 2 more losses (SEA, PIT) without him (although Orton probably would have won the GB game). If you blame those interceptions yesterday on him you weren't really watching the game. When you get hit every time you drop back then even Peyton Manning is going to throw picks. If Cutler were more immature he would be calling out the OL publicly but of course that doesn't help.
c) I predict Josh Beekman will replace Frank Omiyale this week. I doubt we will see other changes.
2) Defense:
a) the secondary is actually a little better than what I thought it would be. We could win with the secondary as it is if there was a consistent pass rush.
b) Adewale Oglunleye and Alex Brown just aren't very good pass rushers. Of course they could look really really good if there was penetration from the 3 technique DT which would prevent the opposing QB from stepping up in the pocket-(something that makes average DE's look like probowlers).
QuoteBy Joe Felicelli on October 26, 2009 8:45 AM
Omiyale and Pace may be the worst left side in my lifetime as a Bear fan. It might even be worse than when Stan Thomas was at left tackle. Qasim Mitchell, Mike Gandy, John St. Clair....this is no better. The only way Pace can block anybody is when they try to bull rush him, as he can get into them and lean on them until they collapse. Omiyale can't even get out of his stance to make a block. He seems to think he can extend with a hand punch, and that is enough to stop his opponent. Shaffer at RT, Beekman at LG, and a move to LT for Williams is the right call to make coming up on Cleveland. That is pretty well a non-contact scrimmage for us, so it should be a good chance to find out if we can actually protect Cutler for more than 2 seconds.
I've got no problem with that guy's proposed offensive line alignment. It can't be any worse than what's out there right now, and they may as well give Williams his shot at the left tackle position anyway. It's what they drafted him to be, and other than a few penalties he's actually looked alright. Pace and Omiyale just suck, and there's no excuse that can really be made for them at this point.
Omiyale may be one of the worst offensive linemen I've ever seen. He constantly gets beat. You would think once he would get lucky and come up with a good block. It's time for this line to be reworked.
Maybe it's Tommie's hamstring that's bothering him. He royally fucked that up too and I see him stretching that sucker out during games. I don't know what the Bears have to gain by being transparent with the media about the guy's injuries. Do you? Can you give me a good reason why they should do anything they're not required by league rules to do? It has often puzzled me just how bent out of shape people get about coaches' comments on anything related to injuries or strategies on or around a game day. People act like they're ENTITLED to know what's going behind the scenes as if they own a stake in the fucking team or some shit.
Just shut up and drink your light beer, douche. The grownups are having a football season now.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 10:13:01 AM
Maybe it's Tommie's hamstring that's bothering him. He royally fucked that up too and I see him stretching that sucker out during games. I don't know what the Bears have to gain by being transparent with the media about the guy's injuries. Do you? Can you give me a good reason why they should do anything they're not required by league rules to do? It has often puzzled me just how bent out of shape people get about coaches' comments on anything related to injuries or strategies on or around a game day. People act like they're ENTITLED to know what's going behind the scenes as if they own a stake in the fucking team or some shit.
Just shut up and drink your light beer, douche. The grownups are having a football season now.
I don't care if the Bears are lying to me about Tommie being hurt. I'm ANGRY about the fact that having a dominant Cover Two defense is based largely on having a baby-eating three-technique tackle. They've shown by their lack of a viable backup plan that they still think Tommie can be that guy. I could give a shit if they lie to me about his old-lady legs, but I think they're lying to themselves about it too.
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 10:20:22 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 10:13:01 AM
Maybe it's Tommie's hamstring that's bothering him. He royally fucked that up too and I see him stretching that sucker out during games. I don't know what the Bears have to gain by being transparent with the media about the guy's injuries. Do you? Can you give me a good reason why they should do anything they're not required by league rules to do? It has often puzzled me just how bent out of shape people get about coaches' comments on anything related to injuries or strategies on or around a game day. People act like they're ENTITLED to know what's going behind the scenes as if they own a stake in the fucking team or some shit.
Just shut up and drink your light beer, douche. The grownups are having a football season now.
I don't care if the Bears are lying to me about Tommie being hurt. I'm ANGRY about the fact that having a dominant Cover Two defense is based largely on having a baby-eating three-technique tackle. They've shown by their lack of a viable backup plan that they still think Tommie can be that guy. I could give a shit if they lie to me about his old-lady legs, but I think they're lying to themselves about it too.
It's not like those guys grow on trees. They've drafted D-Linemen, traded for them, signed them as free agents. But we get it, you know those guys all suck and Angelo should be fired along with Lovie, Phillips and Tommie. I'm not saying I disagree.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 10:25:40 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 26, 2009, 10:20:22 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 10:13:01 AM
Maybe it's Tommie's hamstring that's bothering him. He royally fucked that up too and I see him stretching that sucker out during games. I don't know what the Bears have to gain by being transparent with the media about the guy's injuries. Do you? Can you give me a good reason why they should do anything they're not required by league rules to do? It has often puzzled me just how bent out of shape people get about coaches' comments on anything related to injuries or strategies on or around a game day. People act like they're ENTITLED to know what's going behind the scenes as if they own a stake in the fucking team or some shit.
Just shut up and drink your light beer, douche. The grownups are having a football season now.
I don't care if the Bears are lying to me about Tommie being hurt. I'm ANGRY about the fact that having a dominant Cover Two defense is based largely on having a baby-eating three-technique tackle. They've shown by their lack of a viable backup plan that they still think Tommie can be that guy. I could give a shit if they lie to me about his old-lady legs, but I think they're lying to themselves about it too.
It's not like those guys grow on trees. They've drafted D-Linemen, traded for them, signed them as free agents. But we get it, you know those guys all suck and Angelo should be fired along with Lovie, Phillips and Tommie. I'm not saying I disagree.
It's written in the Reasonable Fan Bylaws that you're allowed to go apeshit on the entire team for 48 hours after a 30+ point loss, and for 72 hours after a 40+ point loss. So I'm with you, FIRE DE WHOLE DAM LOT OF DESE EGG SUCKING BUMS!
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QuoteThe NFL has changed its team ownership rules so that a lead owner can now control as little as 10 percent of the franchise, half of the previous minimum, league sources said.
Owners approved the change at their fall meetings in Boston earlier this month.
The NFL is renowned for having ownership requirements far more onerous than any other league, but aging owners and increasing team values have combined to create significant estate-planning challenges.
The recent difficulties the Rooney family endured retaining ownership of the Pittsburgh Steelers in part sparked the revision of the rule.
"This change helps facilitate succession planning," an NFL source said.
QuoteAt the same time, many of the league's owners are aging. Several years ago, Mike McCaskey, son of 86-year-old Chicago Bears owner Virginia McCaskey approached the league about relaxing its ownership requirements. The league rebuffed him at the time, but at least on paper, a path to ownership now would be easier for him.
I figured it out guys Do not fret.
This morning on my drive into verk I had the pleasure of hearing Motard Matty and Danny Mac tell us that the reason the Bears lost is because Cutler and Olsen had dinner with Ocho last night. They weren't in their hotel rooms with their heads buried under the pillow envisioning success like their sports psychologists told them. They weren't watching film until 9 pm and then promptly rendezvousing with Mr. Sandman for a full eight. No sir - they were hobnobbing with the enemy. You hear that? They were enjoying a meal together. In public, no less.
Then after the game they were friendly to players on the other team. According to Motard Matt, they didn't kick enough ass to be friendly with other human beings.
So that pretty much solves the mystery.
You're welcome.
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 26, 2009, 10:41:36 AM
I figured it out guys Do not fret.
This morning on my drive into verk I had the pleasure of hearing Motard Matty and Danny Mac tell us that the reason the Bears lost is because Cutler and Olsen had dinner with Ocho last night. They weren't in their hotel rooms with their heads buried under the pillow envisioning success like their sports psychologists told them. They weren't watching film until 9 pm and then promptly rendezvousing with Mr. Sandman for a full eight. No sir - they were hobnobbing with the enemy. You hear that? They were enjoying a meal together. In public, no less.
Then after the game they were friendly to players on the other team. According to Motard Matt, they didn't kick enough ass to be friendly with other human beings.
So that pretty much solves the mystery.
You're welcome.
Quote from: Intrepid Reader Chip CarayWho picked up the check? I need closure to this story.
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 26, 2009, 10:41:36 AM
I figured it out guys Do not fret.
This morning on my drive into verk I had the pleasure of hearing Motard Matty and Danny Mac tell us that the reason the Bears lost is because Cutler and Olsen had dinner with Ocho last night. They weren't in their hotel rooms with their heads buried under the pillow envisioning success like their sports psychologists told them. They weren't watching film until 9 pm and then promptly rendezvousing with Mr. Sandman for a full eight. No sir - they were hobnobbing with the enemy. You hear that? They were enjoying a meal together. In public, no less.
Then after the game they were friendly to players on the other team. According to Motard Matt, they didn't kick enough ass to be friendly with other human beings.
So that pretty much solves the mystery.
You're welcome.
Also, not enough line stunts.
Quote from: CT III on October 26, 2009, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 26, 2009, 10:41:36 AM
I figured it out guys Do not fret.
This morning on my drive into verk I had the pleasure of hearing Motard Matty and Danny Mac tell us that the reason the Bears lost is because Cutler and Olsen had dinner with Ocho last night. They weren't in their hotel rooms with their heads buried under the pillow envisioning success like their sports psychologists told them. They weren't watching film until 9 pm and then promptly rendezvousing with Mr. Sandman for a full eight. No sir - they were hobnobbing with the enemy. You hear that? They were enjoying a meal together. In public, no less.
Then after the game they were friendly to players on the other team. According to Motard Matt, they didn't kick enough ass to be friendly with other human beings.
So that pretty much solves the mystery.
You're welcome.
Also, not enough line stunts.
They didn't play "Bear Football"
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 26, 2009, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 26, 2009, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 26, 2009, 10:41:36 AM
I figured it out guys Do not fret.
This morning on my drive into verk I had the pleasure of hearing Motard Matty and Danny Mac tell us that the reason the Bears lost is because Cutler and Olsen had dinner with Ocho last night. They weren't in their hotel rooms with their heads buried under the pillow envisioning success like their sports psychologists told them. They weren't watching film until 9 pm and then promptly rendezvousing with Mr. Sandman for a full eight. No sir - they were hobnobbing with the enemy. You hear that? They were enjoying a meal together. In public, no less.
Then after the game they were friendly to players on the other team. According to Motard Matt, they didn't kick enough ass to be friendly with other human beings.
So that pretty much solves the mystery.
You're welcome.
Also, not enough line stunts.
They didn't play "Bear Football"
And there was a disticnt lack of "da Fire" and "da Passion"
Lovie said after the game that they all have a lot to learn from this week. No idea what can be learned from an ass beating like this game.
Quote from: BH on October 26, 2009, 11:21:05 AM
Lovie said after the game that they all have a lot to learn from this week. No idea what can be learned from an ass beating like this game.
How to beat ass?
I'll let the more statistically-dexterous answer this question: Could the game simply be a big anomaly? Maybe the Bengals are better than the Bears, maybe they're better at home, etc. But suppose you played these 2 teams 100 times and 98 times the Bears are embarrassed, but it just happens that this time they were?
In baseball and basketball, good teams lay eggs all the time. Like here (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200904180.shtml). And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200906180.shtml) And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200808220.shtml)
And here. (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199603100NYK.html) And here (http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/sports2000/numbers/149571.html).
I know that a football season is shorter and that a loss means more. But had the Bears lost 24-23 on a last-second field goal, would it be any better?
Quote from: Brownie on October 26, 2009, 11:37:10 AM
I'll let the more statistically-dexterous answer this question: Could the game simply be a big anomaly? Maybe the Bengals are better than the Bears, maybe they're better at home, etc. But suppose you played these 2 teams 100 times and 98 times the Bears are embarrassed, but it just happens that this time they were?
In baseball and basketball, good teams lay eggs all the time. Like here (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200904180.shtml). And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200906180.shtml) And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200808220.shtml)
And here. (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199603100NYK.html) And here (http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/sports2000/numbers/149571.html).
I know that a football season is shorter and that a loss means more. But had the Bears lost 24-23 on a last-second field goal, would it be any better?
Shut up with your "dispassionate reason," hippie.
Quote from: Brownie on October 26, 2009, 11:37:10 AM
I'll let the more statistically-dexterous answer this question: Could the game simply be a big anomaly? Maybe the Bengals are better than the Bears, maybe they're better at home, etc. But suppose you played these 2 teams 100 times and 98 times the Bears are embarrassed, but it just happens that this time they were?
In baseball and basketball, good teams lay eggs all the time. Like here (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200904180.shtml). And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200906180.shtml) And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200808220.shtml)
And here. (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199603100NYK.html) And here (http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/sports2000/numbers/149571.html).
I know that a football season is shorter and that a loss means more. But had the Bears lost 24-23 on a last-second field goal, would it be any better?
Yeah, it would. The way they were exposed at all levels on both sides of the ball has to hurt their confidence considerably. That doesn't really matter in baseball but it actually does in football. You don't get as many chances to self-correct. You play tentative and you're dead. That said. Cleveland is coming in and a 31-3 thrashing against them might give them a boost with a beatable Tards team coming in next. I had this team at 10-6 and I had losses both at Atlanta and Cincy figured in. But now... 8-8.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 11:45:51 AM
Quote from: Brownie on October 26, 2009, 11:37:10 AM
I'll let the more statistically-dexterous answer this question: Could the game simply be a big anomaly? Maybe the Bengals are better than the Bears, maybe they're better at home, etc. But suppose you played these 2 teams 100 times and 98 times the Bears are embarrassed, but it just happens that this time they were?
In baseball and basketball, good teams lay eggs all the time. Like here (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200904180.shtml). And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200906180.shtml) And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200808220.shtml)
And here. (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199603100NYK.html) And here (http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/sports2000/numbers/149571.html).
I know that a football season is shorter and that a loss means more. But had the Bears lost 24-23 on a last-second field goal, would it be any better?
Yeah, it would. The way they were exposed at all levels on both sides of the ball has to hurt their confidence considerably. That doesn't really matter in baseball but it actually does in football. You don't get as many chances to self-correct. You play tentative and you're dead. That said. Cleveland is coming in and a 31-3 thrashing against them might give them a boost with a beatable Tards team coming in next. I had this team at 10-6 and I had losses both at Atlanta and Cincy figured in. But now... 8-8.
What makes the Tards beatable? They look pretty much like the opposite of the Bears. You know. Good.
More bad news:
I just went to 7-11 for some Red Bull because I'm dragging ass today and I saw that they had a bunch of Bears Logo Bic lighters. I collect these things and have a bunch of Cubs ones from back in the day so I bought two. They don't work. Not a lick. Nothing.
FIRE LOVIE!!!!
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 04:48:52 PM
More bad news:
I just went to 7-11 for some Red Bull because I'm dragging ass today and I saw that they had a bunch of Bears Logo Bic lighters. I collect these things and have a bunch of Cubs ones from back in the day so I bought two. They don't work. Not a lick. Nothing.
FIRE LOVIE!!!!
You smoke Newports or Kools?
Quote from: BH on October 26, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 04:48:52 PM
More bad news:
I just went to 7-11 for some Red Bull because I'm dragging ass today and I saw that they had a bunch of Bears Logo Bic lighters. I collect these things and have a bunch of Cubs ones from back in the day so I bought two. They don't work. Not a lick. Nothing.
FIRE LOVIE!!!!
You smoke Newports or Kools?
Child, please.
(http://www.funbumperstickers.com/images/Bob_Marley_rastasmoke2.jpg)
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: BH on October 26, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 04:48:52 PM
More bad news:
I just went to 7-11 for some Red Bull because I'm dragging ass today and I saw that they had a bunch of Bears Logo Bic lighters. I collect these things and have a bunch of Cubs ones from back in the day so I bought two. They don't work. Not a lick. Nothing.
FIRE LOVIE!!!!
You smoke Newports or Kools?
Child, please.
(http://www.funbumperstickers.com/images/Bob_Marley_rastasmoke2.jpg)
Which of course leads to...
Pancakes over a Zippo, cooking up style.
(http://www.craphound.com/images/mathcakes.jpg)
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4602540 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4602540)
Frank Omiyale to try his hand at keeping the bench from getting into the backfield.
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 28, 2009, 06:30:40 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4602540 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4602540)
Frank Omiyale to try his hand at keeping the bench from getting into the backfield.
This is a good start. He's been the worst player on the field the last two games...and that's saying something.
(I now await a visit from "Intrepid Reader: Nick Roach" to protest)
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on October 28, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 28, 2009, 06:30:40 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4602540 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4602540)
Frank Omiyale to try his hand at keeping the bench from getting into the backfield.
This is a good start. He's been the worst player on the field the last two games...and that's saying something.
(I now await a visit from "Intrepid Reader: Nick Roach" to protest)
Intrepid Reader: Every Bears Safety Since Duerson Besides Mike Brown, Tony Parrish and Mark CarrierUmm... You're right.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on October 28, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
This is a good start. He's been the worst player on the field the last two games...and that's saying something.
(I now await a visit from "Intrepid Reader: Nick Roach" to protest)
Not that Roach is great (insert shitbrain Kurt) or anything, but considering he took all of his snaps
at strong side before the injuries and he's playing in a defensive scheme which expects him to
defend vast swathes of the field, I think he's been ok.
I'd push a good deal of the team into a wood chipper before him.
Quote from: Pre on October 28, 2009, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on October 28, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
This is a good start. He's been the worst player on the field the last two games...and that's saying something.
(I now await a visit from "Intrepid Reader: Nick Roach" to protest)
Not that Roach is great (insert shitbrain Kurt) or anything, but considering he took all of his snaps
at strong side before the injuries and he's playing in a defensive scheme which expects him to
defend vast swathes of the field, I think he's been ok.
I'd push a good deal of the team into a wood chipper before him.
The Woodchipper (in order of appearance)
1. Frank Omiyale
2. Orlando Pace
3. Nathan Vasher
4. Kevin Payne
5. Helen Huntermeyer
There's really nobody else I want to push in.
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 28, 2009, 06:30:40 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4602540 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4602540)
Frank Omiyale to try his hand at keeping the bench from getting into the backfield.
Your link sucks.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2009, 07:40:32 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 28, 2009, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on October 28, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
This is a good start. He's been the worst player on the field the last two games...and that's saying something.
(I now await a visit from "Intrepid Reader: Nick Roach" to protest)
Not that Roach is great (insert shitbrain Kurt) or anything, but considering he took all of his snaps
at strong side before the injuries and he's playing in a defensive scheme which expects him to
defend vast swathes of the field, I think he's been ok.
I'd push a good deal of the team into a wood chipper before him.
The Woodchipper (in order of appearance)
1. Frank Omiyale
2. Orlando Pace
3. Nathan Vasher
4. Kevin Payne
5. Helen Huntermeyer
There's really nobody else I want to push in.
Tommie Harris can go in before Huntermeyer and take the entire undertaintackle position with him.
Quote from: CT III on October 28, 2009, 07:46:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2009, 07:40:32 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 28, 2009, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on October 28, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
This is a good start. He's been the worst player on the field the last two games...and that's saying something.
(I now await a visit from "Intrepid Reader: Nick Roach" to protest)
Not that Roach is great (insert shitbrain Kurt) or anything, but considering he took all of his snaps
at strong side before the injuries and he's playing in a defensive scheme which expects him to
defend vast swathes of the field, I think he's been ok.
I'd push a good deal of the team into a wood chipper before him.
The Woodchipper (in order of appearance)
1. Frank Omiyale
2. Orlando Pace
3. Nathan Vasher
4. Kevin Payne
5. Helen Huntermeyer
There's really nobody else I want to push in.
Tommie Harris can go in before Huntermeyer and take the entire undertaintackle position with him.
Why? Push Urlacher and Tinoisomoa and Kevin Jones in too for having the nerve to be injured?
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2009, 07:52:06 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 28, 2009, 07:46:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2009, 07:40:32 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 28, 2009, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on October 28, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
This is a good start. He's been the worst player on the field the last two games...and that's saying something.
(I now await a visit from "Intrepid Reader: Nick Roach" to protest)
Not that Roach is great (insert shitbrain Kurt) or anything, but considering he took all of his snaps
at strong side before the injuries and he's playing in a defensive scheme which expects him to
defend vast swathes of the field, I think he's been ok.
I'd push a good deal of the team into a wood chipper before him.
The Woodchipper (in order of appearance)
1. Frank Omiyale
2. Orlando Pace
3. Nathan Vasher
4. Kevin Payne
5. Helen Huntermeyer
There's really nobody else I want to push in.
Tommie Harris can go in before Huntermeyer and take the entire undertaintackle position with him.
Why? Push Urlacher and Tinoisomoa and Kevin Jones in too for having the nerve to be injured?
I don't know, I'm just tired of the Tommie Harris situation. Thinking about it, I don't really hate him, but he's dead wood now, and dead wood belongs in the chipper.
Benching Omiyale was a good move. I like the idea of telling Tommie Harris that his ass needs to practice if he wants to play (cue Allen Iverson). Hopefully the team can get their heads outta their asses and realize that their jobs are hopefully all on the line.
Helen Huntermeyer is moving to MLB and Roach back to SLB. Am I the only one who thinks that might be an improvement? No?
Quote from: Brownie on October 28, 2009, 08:52:11 PM
Helen Huntermeyer is moving to MLB and Roach back to SLB. Am I the only one who thinks that might be an improvement? No?
I think it's an improvement. Hunter lacks Roach's athleticism, but he knows the calls and makes better reads. Roach has not impressed me with calling the formations. The Roddy White touchdown in the Atlanta game was kind of the last straw for me. The Falcons came out in five wide and Roach had Nothing and didn't call the time out.
Quote from: Brownie on October 28, 2009, 08:52:11 PM
Helen Huntermeyer is moving to MLB
Can he replace Mike Fontenot?
So the third string Sam is moving back to being the second string Mike, and the third string Mike is going back to being the second string Sam. That's got to be an improvement, right? Thank god for Lance Briggs.
They're playing the Browns this weekend. That's got to be an improvement, right?
Quote from: Brownie on October 28, 2009, 08:52:11 PM
Helen Huntermeyer is moving to MLB and Roach back to SLB. Am I the only one who thinks that might be an improvement? No?
You and Hub Arkush.
Quote from: Brownie on October 29, 2009, 08:18:56 AM
They're playing the Browns this weekend. That's got to be an improvement, right?
Bears at home since 2005 including Postseason: 28-9
Bears on Road since 2005 including SB XLI: 17-20
I thought the road splits were going to be a shite sight worse when I started looking this up. But my point is that TJ is right. This week should reflect some improvement.
Orlando Pace plays for the Bears? Hmm.
I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.
Do teams really scheme around bad personnel and wouldn't good teams at least work under the assumption that if there are better personnel options that their opponents will eventually figure it out and switch to it? How will not telling anyone that Beekman and Harris are starting and Hillenmeyer and Roach are switching positions give the Bears any kind of edge? Was that the problem the last few years when Lovie was adamant that "Rex was our quarterback?"
Quote from: Brownie on October 29, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Do teams really scheme around bad personnel and wouldn't good teams at least work under the assumption that if there are better personnel options that their opponents will eventually figure it out and switch to it? How will not telling anyone that Beekman and Harris are starting and Hillenmeyer and Roach are switching positions give the Bears any kind of edge? Was that the problem the last few years when Lovie was adamant that "Rex was our quarterback?"
Sure they do. They will probably attack a bad cornerback, a bad part of the oline, or a defensive end who can't play the run until the opponent switches up. Atlanta probably saw that Nick Roach couldn't handle the calls at MLB so they went no huddle and exploited it.
Friend of mine is also blogging about the bears.. pretty decent for his 2nd time.
http://tanksfiringrange.wordpress.com/
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2009, 09:28:45 AM
I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.
He could have just said it last week. 1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.
And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year? I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken. Nice move, Jerry.
Quote from: BH on October 30, 2009, 08:41:48 AM
Friend of mine is also blogging about the bears.. pretty decent for his 2nd time.
http://tanksfiringrange.wordpress.com/
How many other 14 year olds have you befriended in Columbus, weirdo?
Quote from: MAD on October 30, 2009, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2009, 09:28:45 AM
I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.
He could have just said it last week. 1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.
And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year? I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken. Nice move, Jerry.
Not broken? That line was not very good last year. They had the same short-yardage problems they have now and on 3rd & Long KO was on a buffet table with big sweaty men sticking forks in his ass.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 30, 2009, 09:05:54 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 30, 2009, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2009, 09:28:45 AM
I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.
He could have just said it last week. 1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.
And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year? I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken. Nice move, Jerry.
Not broken? That line was not very good last year. They had the same short-yardage problems they have now and on 3rd & Long KO was on a buffet table with big sweaty men sticking forks in his ass.
I think he's more referring to the specific change of Beekman for Omiyale, not the attempt to upgrade the line in general. That line sucked, but the tackles were more of a problem than the guards, as Beekman and Garza actually graded out as the best two players on the line. So instead of upgrading from John Tait and Fatty St. Clair, they replaced Beekman, who wasn't the problem, with a crappier alternative, signed an immobile old hack to play left tackle, and then moved Chris Williams from his natural position to right tackle, all while Kreutz got a year older. So yeah, great offseason.
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 30, 2009, 09:05:54 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 30, 2009, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2009, 09:28:45 AM
I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.
He could have just said it last week. 1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.
And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year? I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken. Nice move, Jerry.
Not broken? That line was not very good last year. They had the same short-yardage problems they have now and on 3rd & Long KO was on a buffet table with big sweaty men sticking forks in his ass.
I disagree. Forte had bigger holes and Kyle Ortman was not abused like Cutler's been. Hell, even Rex Grossman, who would often fall down just by moving, managed to stay upright in his few games. This can and should be all be looked up by someone who's not us and then I'll meet you on the hill.
Quote from: MAD on October 30, 2009, 09:15:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 30, 2009, 09:05:54 AM
Quote from: MAD on October 30, 2009, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 29, 2009, 09:28:45 AM
I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.
He could have just said it last week. 1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.
And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year? I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken. Nice move, Jerry.
Not broken? That line was not very good last year. They had the same short-yardage problems they have now and on 3rd & Long KO was on a buffet table with big sweaty men sticking forks in his ass.
I disagree. Forte had bigger holes and Kyle Ortman was not abused like Cutler's been. Hell, even Rex Grossman, who would often fall down just by moving, managed to stay upright in his few games. This can and should be all be looked up by someone who's not us and then I'll meet you on the hill.
poss. hje
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 29, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on October 29, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Do teams really scheme around bad personnel and wouldn't good teams at least work under the assumption that if there are better personnel options that their opponents will eventually figure it out and switch to it? How will not telling anyone that Beekman and Harris are starting and Hillenmeyer and Roach are switching positions give the Bears any kind of edge? Was that the problem the last few years when Lovie was adamant that "Rex was our quarterback?"
Sure they do. They will probably attack a bad cornerback, a bad part of the oline, or a defensive end who can't play the run until the opponent switches up. Atlanta probably saw that Nick Roach couldn't handle the calls at MLB so they went no huddle and exploited it.
Atlanta KNEW that Hillenmeyer wasn't going to play, so Roach was it. They didn't know that Lovie and Turner and Hiestand were dumbasses and that Omiyale would continue to run out there and get beat. Cincinnati might have considered that someone on the Bears might have thought, "Hey, Hillenmeyer's better than Roach at MLB and Roach's better than Hillenmeyer at SLB, so maybe they'll swap positions."
It's not a case of, "The corners are bad, and their bench is thin, so let's keep throwing at shitty corner."
Quote from: Brownie on October 30, 2009, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on October 29, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on October 29, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Do teams really scheme around bad personnel and wouldn't good teams at least work under the assumption that if there are better personnel options that their opponents will eventually figure it out and switch to it? How will not telling anyone that Beekman and Harris are starting and Hillenmeyer and Roach are switching positions give the Bears any kind of edge? Was that the problem the last few years when Lovie was adamant that "Rex was our quarterback?"
Sure they do. They will probably attack a bad cornerback, a bad part of the oline, or a defensive end who can't play the run until the opponent switches up. Atlanta probably saw that Nick Roach couldn't handle the calls at MLB so they went no huddle and exploited it.
Atlanta KNEW that Hillenmeyer wasn't going to play, so Roach was it. They didn't know that Lovie and Turner and Hiestand were dumbasses and that Omiyale would continue to run out there and get beat. Cincinnati might have considered that someone on the Bears might have thought, "Hey, Hillenmeyer's better than Roach at MLB and Roach's better than Hillenmeyer at SLB, so maybe they'll swap positions."
It's not a case of, "The corners are bad, and their bench is thin, so let's keep throwing at shitty corner."
But to be truthfully frank, it also was that.
Mulligan goes off on our coaches. (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1854899,CST-SPT-mully30.article)
Quote from: BH on October 30, 2009, 11:09:20 AM
Mulligan goes off on our coaches. (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1854899,CST-SPT-mully30.article)
Insightful comment from thedmo:
QuoteRon Turner, meet Jason McKie. He's your fullback. Has yet to carry the ball all year. You see, the one-back offense you use (apparently because, as much as you hate to do it, even you concede you have to run the ball, at least in conventional situations). Good blocker. Take a look at the records of Matt Suhey and Walter Payton for a good example of a balanced run game. I know, you like to throw the ball, all the time, to everybody. Heck, I haven't forgotten that your first play last year was a pass to an eligible tackle. You'd probably have cutler throw to Lovie if you could figure out a way to make that happen. But it doesn't work. And, if you don't figure it out, neither will you.
Quote from: R-V on October 30, 2009, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: BH on October 30, 2009, 11:09:20 AM
Mulligan goes off on our coaches. (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1854899,CST-SPT-mully30.article)
Insightful comment from thedmo:
QuoteRon Turner, meet Jason McKie. He's your fullback. Has yet to carry the ball all year. You see, the one-back offense you use (apparently because, as much as you hate to do it, even you concede you have to run the ball, at least in conventional situations). Good blocker. Take a look at the records of Matt Suhey and Walter Payton for a good example of a balanced run game. I know, you like to throw the ball, all the time, to everybody. Heck, I haven't forgotten that your first play last year was a pass to an eligible tackle. You'd probably have cutler throw to Lovie if you could figure out a way to make that happen. But it doesn't work. And, if you don't figure it out, neither will you.
Yes?
Go on...
Quote from: PenFoe on October 30, 2009, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 30, 2009, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: BH on October 30, 2009, 11:09:20 AM
Mulligan goes off on our coaches. (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1854899,CST-SPT-mully30.article)
Insightful comment from thedmo:
QuoteRon Turner, meet Jason McKie. He's your fullback. Has yet to carry the ball all year. You see, the one-back offense you use (apparently because, as much as you hate to do it, even you concede you have to run the ball, at least in conventional situations). Good blocker. Take a look at the records of Matt Suhey and Walter Payton for a good example of a balanced run game. I know, you like to throw the ball, all the time, to everybody. Heck, I haven't forgotten that your first play last year was a pass to an eligible tackle. You'd probably have cutler throw to Lovie if you could figure out a way to make that happen. But it doesn't work. And, if you don't figure it out, neither will you.
Yes?
Go on...
If you can't figure it out, Pen, neither will you.
Quote from: R-V on October 30, 2009, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: BH on October 30, 2009, 11:09:20 AM
Mulligan goes off on our coaches. (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1854899,CST-SPT-mully30.article)
Insightful comment from thedmo:
QuoteRon Turner, meet Jason McKie. He's your fullback. Has yet to carry the ball all year. You see, the one-back offense you use (apparently because, as much as you hate to do it, even you concede you have to run the ball, at least in conventional situations). Good blocker. Take a look at the records of Matt Suhey and Walter Payton for a good example of a balanced run game. I know, you like to throw the ball, all the time, to everybody. Heck, I haven't forgotten that your first play last year was a pass to an eligible tackle. You'd probably have cutler throw to Lovie if you could figure out a way to make that happen. But it doesn't work. And, if you don't figure it out, neither will you.
Jason McKie blows.
This offensive line is fucking awful. Pathetic that Beekman immediately became one of their two best linemen.
Quote from: R-V on November 01, 2009, 02:10:59 PM
This offensive line is fucking awful. Pathetic that Beekman immediately became one of their two best linemen.
Jay Cutler will be dead by December. This team blows.
I think I saw T-Pain on the Burrs sideline. So that's nice.
Quote from: Slack-E on November 01, 2009, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on November 01, 2009, 02:10:59 PM
This offensive line is fucking awful. Pathetic that Beekman immediately became one of their two best linemen.
Jay Cutler will be dead by December. This team blows.
At least we aren't fans of the Browns. The Browns are awful.
Hey, Orton was very pedestrian in a Broncos loss. That's a positive.
Figures. Bears go out and get a franchise QB for the first time in my lifetime, and the welcome mat known as the O-line is going to make sure he's dead before the end of his first season. At this point, I'd settle for them blocking *someone* in the other color jersey, even if it's not their assigned man. I think Garza's probably the least-bad of the bunch, but he spent most of the afternoon on his ass in the backfield.
FYI, the Browns may be the worst team I've seen in a decade, at least. Holy crap. It's telling that a 30-6 win leaves us shaking our head at how crappy the opponent must be for the Bears to have won in that fashion despite not being able to pick up one lousy yard in the red zone...
FOX is pimping a new game time for next week- anyone else see that and know why?
Quote from: Ivy6 on November 01, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
FOX is pimping a new game time for next week- anyone else see that and know why?
I was wondering the same thing. An earlier start would not make me happy, but every website (espn, bears, nfl) still lists the traditional noon start.
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on November 01, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
FOX is pimping a new game time for next week- anyone else see that and know why?
I was wondering the same thing. An earlier start would not make me happy, but every website (espn, bears, nfl) still lists the traditional noon start.
I think that add is for their ghey pregame show, which will begin an hour early. If it were actually an 11 a.m. start, the Tards would be kicking off at 8 a.m. their time. I like... but alas. I think it's a hoax to make you look at Jimmy Johnson's hair.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 01, 2009, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on November 01, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
FOX is pimping a new game time for next week- anyone else see that and know why?
I was wondering the same thing. An earlier start would not make me happy, but every website (espn, bears, nfl) still lists the traditional noon start.
I think that add is for their ghey pregame show, which will begin an hour early. If it were actually an 11 a.m. start, the Tards would be kicking off at 8 a.m. their time. I like... but alas. I think it's a hoax to make you look at Jimmy Johnson's hair.
I think you're right, because it didn't make any sense. There's no way the NFL is going to change the Sunday start times. But I swear their graphic said the game started at 11am eastern.
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 01, 2009, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on November 01, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
FOX is pimping a new game time for next week- anyone else see that and know why?
I was wondering the same thing. An earlier start would not make me happy, but every website (espn, bears, nfl) still lists the traditional noon start.
I think that add is for their ghey pregame show, which will begin an hour early. If it were actually an 11 a.m. start, the Tards would be kicking off at 8 a.m. their time. I like... but alas. I think it's a hoax to make you look at Jimmy Johnson's hair.
I think you're right, because it didn't make any sense. There's no way the NFL is going to change the Sunday start times. But I swear their graphic said the game started at 11am eastern.
I rewinded and paused and looked at it discerningly. I just watched their ghey postgame show and now they're pimping their two-hour pregame show, with footage of Howie and the other schmucks hanging with the troops in Afghanistan beginning at 11 a.m. ET. I know, I can't wait to miss that either.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 01, 2009, 07:00:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 01, 2009, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on November 01, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
FOX is pimping a new game time for next week- anyone else see that and know why?
I was wondering the same thing. An earlier start would not make me happy, but every website (espn, bears, nfl) still lists the traditional noon start.
I think that add is for their ghey pregame show, which will begin an hour early. If it were actually an 11 a.m. start, the Tards would be kicking off at 8 a.m. their time. I like... but alas. I think it's a hoax to make you look at Jimmy Johnson's hair.
I think you're right, because it didn't make any sense. There's no way the NFL is going to change the Sunday start times. But I swear their graphic said the game started at 11am eastern.
I rewinded and paused and looked at it discerningly. I just watched their ghey postgame show and now they're pimping their two-hour pregame show, with footage of Howie and the other schmucks hanging with the troops in Afghanistan beginning at 11 a.m. ET. I know, I can't wait to miss that either.
Because of the time change I had a little extra time this morning and caught some pregame programming. I won't be making that mistake again.
30-6. Fuck you if you can't enjoy a pasting like that. There won't be but one or two more so I'm going to savor the Bears being better than someone at home. Way better. At home. Yay. Fuckers.
Also: CHARLES FUCKING TILLMAN, BEYOTCH!!11!!!
I agree with Apex. Watching the Bears repeatedly fuck up changes in the red zone and be unable to run the ball with any kind of consistency was fucking balls.
Bra-vo!
Quote from: Andy on November 02, 2009, 10:05:45 AM
I agree with Apex. Watching the Bears repeatedly fuck up changes in the red zone and be unable to run the ball with any kind of consistency was fucking balls.
Bra-vo!
When Jay Cutler started talking mad shit to the Angry Lebowski on the sideline after completely failing to move the ball one goddamn yard in 4 tries against the shittiest team in NFL history I knew that this was BEAR FOOTBALL at its finest.
I ran across the street to the senior citizen home and punched a few elderly folks just to get my point across.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 01, 2009, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on November 01, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
FOX is pimping a new game time for next week- anyone else see that and know why?
I was wondering the same thing. An earlier start would not make me happy, but every website (espn, bears, nfl) still lists the traditional noon start.
I think that add is for their ghey pregame show, which will begin an hour early. If it were actually an 11 a.m. start, the Tards would be kicking off at 9 8 a.m. their time. I like... but alas. I think it's a hoax to make you look at Jimmy Johnson's hair.
No Daylight Savings in Arizona'd
Quote from: PenFoe on November 02, 2009, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 01, 2009, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on November 01, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
FOX is pimping a new game time for next week- anyone else see that and know why?
I was wondering the same thing. An earlier start would not make me happy, but every website (espn, bears, nfl) still lists the traditional noon start.
I think that add is for their ghey pregame show, which will begin an hour early. If it were actually an 11 a.m. start, the Tards would be kicking off at 9 8 a.m. their time. I like... but alas. I think it's a hoax to make you look at Jimmy Johnson's hair.
No Daylight Savings in Arizona'd
No wonder they sucked against the Panthers.
Quote from: Slack-E on November 02, 2009, 10:16:54 AM
Quote from: Andy on November 02, 2009, 10:05:45 AM
I agree with Apex. Watching the Bears repeatedly fuck up changes in the red zone and be unable to run the ball with any kind of consistency was fucking balls.
Bra-vo!
When Jay Cutler started talking mad shit to the Angry Lebowski on the sideline after completely failing to move the ball one goddamn yard in 4 tries against the shittiest team in NFL history I knew that this was BEAR FOOTBALL at its finest.
I ran across the street to the senior citizen home and punched a few elderly folks just to get my point across.
That's teh spirit!
Quote from: Andy on November 02, 2009, 10:05:45 AM
I agree with Apex. Watching the Bears repeatedly fuck up changes in the red zone and be unable to run the ball with any kind of consistency was fucking balls.
Bra-vo!
Here in the Bay Area I get to watch the Raiders. After watching one play where two wide receivers ran into and knocked each other down I thought about you guys bitching about beating the Browns by 24 points.
First!
FIrst.
EDIT: DAMMIT!
Ok, fess up. Which one of you mad geniuses did this?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-05-pompei-bears-receivers-nov05,0,7706593,comment-display-all.column
QuoteHow many years whatever your name is..
It is time to RETIRE after writing SCAM articles
Same old same during
SHAYE
JURON
SHOOP
WANDSTEAD and offensive line coach during that time..
BLOUCHE
Boycott BEARS bears fan... Silent Boycott.... This organization is corrupted and even getting
A franchise QB they have not rolled out Cutler out of pocket....
What does it tell you? IT IS G o t t D a m n Coaching who are holding back..
Yes after 7 games, they are thinking yes thinking on him to roll out????
THIS IS CORRUPTED organization and writers are part of scheme to keep
Interest on BEARS and keep hush hush so that they sell out...
There was a time that Bears had hard time to sell out...
I am telling you Bears FAN.. you will still see same thing..
Blame on Players and O line...
Not a single article on Why no roll out, slant pass, trap run..deep pass during roll out..
All of these years Since 85... THis miser and greedy Mackesky is hiding behind his MOM.. And writers and radio clowns...
chitown_again (11/05/2009, 8:05 AM )
So much awesome. So little time to express teh joy.
My favorite part is "G o t t D a m n".
I love this town.*
*Parts anyway.
Quote from: Indolent Reader on November 05, 2009, 09:27:34 AM
My favorite part is "G o t t D a m n".
WANDSTEAD and offensive line coach during that time..
The misspell and two periods are awesome.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 05, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
I love this town.*
*Parts anyway.
I actually agree that this is CORRUPTED and the writers are part of scheme. Especially Morrissey. Always blowing smoke up my ass.
Quote from: SKO on November 05, 2009, 09:38:49 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 05, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
I love this town.*
*Parts anyway.
I actually agree that this is CORRUPTED and the writers are part of scheme. Especially Morrissey MOORASSEE. Always blowing smoke up my ass.
CORRUPTED
The World Series is over. Is Bradley still a Cub?
Quote from: CBStew on November 05, 2009, 11:53:14 AM
The World Series is over. Is Bradley still a Cub?
Yes.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 05, 2009, 09:25:43 AM
Ok, fess up. Which one of you mad geniuses did this?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-05-pompei-bears-receivers-nov05,0,7706593,comment-display-all.column
QuoteHow many years whatever your name is..
It is time to RETIRE after writing SCAM articles
Same old same during
SHAYE
JURON
SHOOP
WANDSTEAD and offensive line coach during that time..
BLOUCHE
Boycott BEARS bears fan... Silent Boycott.... This organization is corrupted and even getting
A franchise QB they have not rolled out Cutler out of pocket....
What does it tell you? IT IS G o t t D a m n Coaching who are holding back..
Yes after 7 games, they are thinking yes thinking on him to roll out????
THIS IS CORRUPTED organization and writers are part of scheme to keep
Interest on BEARS and keep hush hush so that they sell out...
There was a time that Bears had hard time to sell out...
I am telling you Bears FAN.. you will still see same thing..
Blame on Players and O line...
Not a single article on Why no roll out, slant pass, trap run..deep pass during roll out..
All of these years Since 85... THis miser and greedy Mackesky is hiding behind his MOM.. And writers and radio clowns...
chitown_again (11/05/2009, 8:05 AM )
So much awesome. So little time to express teh joy.
I just assumed Ed O'Bradovich wrote it.
Quote from: Andy on November 06, 2009, 09:35:45 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 05, 2009, 09:25:43 AM
Ok, fess up. Which one of you mad geniuses did this?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-05-pompei-bears-receivers-nov05,0,7706593,comment-display-all.column
QuoteHow many years whatever your name is..
It is time to RETIRE after writing SCAM articles
Same old same during
SHAYE
JURON
SHOOP
WANDSTEAD and offensive line coach during that time..
BLOUCHE
Boycott BEARS bears fan... Silent Boycott.... This organization is corrupted and even getting
A franchise QB they have not rolled out Cutler out of pocket....
What does it tell you? IT IS G o t t D a m n Coaching who are holding back..
Yes after 7 games, they are thinking yes thinking on him to roll out????
THIS IS CORRUPTED organization and writers are part of scheme to keep
Interest on BEARS and keep hush hush so that they sell out...
There was a time that Bears had hard time to sell out...
I am telling you Bears FAN.. you will still see same thing..
Blame on Players and O line...
Not a single article on Why no roll out, slant pass, trap run..deep pass during roll out..
All of these years Since 85... THis miser and greedy Mackesky is hiding behind his MOM.. And writers and radio clowns...
chitown_again (11/05/2009, 8:05 AM )
So much awesome. So little time to express teh joy.
I just assumed Ed O'Bradovich wrote it.
Doesn't that require you to assume that Ed O'Bradovich can write?
Nice cheap shot Tommie--get the fuck off the field and never put a Bears jersey on again you selfish, worthless piece of shit.
Edit: What Tommie did epitomizes the phrase "gutless asshole."
Well, Tommie gets to rest that knee and hammy another week. He's gonna be a monster by Week 12 at this rate. The guy must have tried to take his knees out. That's all I can think of. Otherwise, that's one of the strangest things I've seen on a professional field.
You don't punch a guy who's laying down, right in front of the head referee, unless the guy went after your knees.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 08, 2009, 12:11:56 PM
You don't punch a guy who's laying down, right in front of the head referee, unless the guy went after your knees.
I kept trying to rewind it but I couldn't see where the referee went after his knees. But if he did, this was justified.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 08, 2009, 12:11:56 PM
You don't punch a guy who's laying down, right in front of the head referee, unless the guy went after your knees. ever.
I hope Tommie has a nice relaxing afternoon off.
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2009, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 08, 2009, 12:11:56 PM
You don't punch a guy who's laying down, right in front of the head referee, unless the guy went after your knees. ever.
I hope Tommie has a nice relaxing afternoon off.
Some douchebag goes after your surgically repaired knee, I can't blame him for trying to knock his fucking head off. Considering the precarious place his career is in right now because of that knee, I can't say that I blame him.
Then again, if he didn't go after his knee, Harris is a moron.
HEY BEARS FAN IN HYDE PARK!!! THAT TOUCHDOWN WAS FOR YOUR HATIN' ASS!@!!!! TAKE OFF YOUR WANNSTEDT PITT JERSEY AND NEVER ROOT FOR THE BEARS AGAIN YOU NEGATIVE, WOURTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!!!
Quote from: fiveouts on November 08, 2009, 12:19:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2009, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 08, 2009, 12:11:56 PM
You don't punch a guy who's laying down, right in front of the head referee, unless the guy went after your knees. ever.
I hope Tommie has a nice relaxing afternoon off.
Some douchebag goes after your surgically repaired knee, I can't blame him for trying to knock his fucking head off. Considering the precarious place his career is in right now because of that knee, I can't say that I blame him.
Then again, if he didn't go after his knee, Harris is a moron.
I'm not saying I wouldn't react the same way, but it was still dumb.
There were at least three throws on that drive that only maybe 2-3 other QBs in football could make.
This, of course, just makes me hate the "WE WANT ORTMAN" meatheads even more.
For those unable to watch, what happened with Harris?
(By the way, this will be the first of 2 games in a row that I can't watch or even record... Damn...)
Fuck these goddamn gutless fucking assholes.
Quote from: BC on November 08, 2009, 12:32:15 PM
For those unable to watch, what happened with Harris?
(By the way, this will be the first of 2 games in a row that I can't watch or even record... Damn...)
He punched an offensive lineman in the head for reasons unknown.
Running a reverse when you're regular offense hasn't been stopped all day was a good idea. Besides, the defense is doing well enough to just piss away offensive possessions anyways.
I know its been really cool to talk about how "THAT STUPID TOMMIE HARRIS AINT NO GOOD," but every time he's been out (Cincinnati game, the last 15 plays or so), the defense has gotten utterly fucking embarrassed.
Not that the D looks great with him, but the difference has been noticeable.
Hey Lovie you might want to give Tillman some help.
When do we get to play the Browns again?
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 08, 2009, 12:52:55 PM
Hey Lovie you might want to give Tillman some help.
Considering the Cardinals are getting about 10 yards per carry, its just a matter of who on the Cardinals feels like scoring.
Now Cutler has happy feet. The Frank Omiyale gift that keeps on giving. Fuck this.
When's that Rams game again?
Just fucking cut everyone at halftime.
Maybe Tommie knew what he was doing by getting the hell out of this game.
This maybe the start of the end for Lovie Smith and company.
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2009, 01:11:40 PM
Maybe Tommie knew what he was doing by getting the hell out of this game.
He heard BC can't watch this week or next, so he thought he'd take a couple games off.
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 08, 2009, 01:12:19 PM
This maybe the start of the end for Lovie Smith and company.
95% of the time, the "fire the coach" sentiment should be left to the knuckle draggers, but jesus, if you get completely embarrassed in two games out of three weeks, I gotta imagine everything is on the table.
Just by looking at the score, it looks like I am going to have to move on to the Illinois basketball team... Which will of course be yet another inevitable disappointment in a long line of them... Guh.
Quote from: BC on November 08, 2009, 01:19:14 PM
Just by looking at the score, it looks like I am going to have to move on to the Illinois basketball team... Which will of course be yet another inevitable disappointment in a long line of them... Guh.
What exactly are you expecting from them?
Quote from: Slack-E on November 08, 2009, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: BC on November 08, 2009, 01:19:14 PM
Just by looking at the score, it looks like I am going to have to move on to the Illinois basketball team... Which will of course be yet another inevitable disappointment in a long line of them... Guh.
What exactly are you expecting from them?
For fuck's sake, Slak, don't fucking encourage him. At least not today.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 08, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 08, 2009, 01:12:19 PM
This maybe the start of the end for Lovie Smith and company.
95% of the time, the "fire the coach" sentiment should be left to the knuckle draggers, but jesus, if you get completely embarrassed in two games out of three weeks, I gotta imagine everything is on the table.
That is what is bringing me closer to the fire Lovie camp.
Gould moving to safety is the obvious halftime adjustment.
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on November 08, 2009, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: BC on November 08, 2009, 01:19:14 PM
Just by looking at the score, it looks like I am going to have to move on to the Illinois basketball team... Which will of course be yet another inevitable disappointment in a long line of them... Guh.
What exactly are you expecting from them?
For fuck's sake, Slak, don't fucking encourage him. At least not today.
3rd in the Big Ten, second round elimination in the NCAAs.
I'm blown away by the fact that the two worst performances I've seen in my life have occurred in the last three weeks.
...and I lived through the late 90s Bears teams.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 08, 2009, 01:24:47 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on November 08, 2009, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: BC on November 08, 2009, 01:19:14 PM
Just by looking at the score, it looks like I am going to have to move on to the Illinois basketball team... Which will of course be yet another inevitable disappointment in a long line of them... Guh.
What exactly are you expecting from them?
For fuck's sake, Slak, don't fucking encourage him. At least not today.
3rd in the Big Ten, second round elimination in the NCAAs.
Classic under-/over-achievement?
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on November 08, 2009, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: BC on November 08, 2009, 01:19:14 PM
Just by looking at the score, it looks like I am going to have to move on to the Illinois basketball team... Which will of course be yet another inevitable disappointment in a long line of them... Guh.
What exactly are you expecting from them?
For fuck's sake, Slak, don't fucking encourage him. At least not today.
Come on, I want to see if he knows what a disappointment actually is.
Am I the only one who finds the humiliation mitigated by the fact that it should bring with a real head coach to go with the real QB.
Wait, who am I kidding? They'd just announce Dave McGinnis is going to be the coach again without telling him.
Quote from: Andy on November 08, 2009, 01:32:56 PM
Am I the only one who finds the humiliation mitigated by the fact that it should bring with a real head coach to go with the real QB.
That helped yesterday. Not working today.
So are we officially voting the "Fire Lovie Smith" campaign into the non-meathead category? Because I'd really like to be on that bandwagon.
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 01:57:17 PM
So are we officially voting the "Fire Lovie Smith" campaign into the non-meathead category? Because I'd really like to be on that bandwagon.
Fire up the HATEMOBILE.
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 01:57:17 PM
So are we officially voting the "Fire Lovie Smith" campaign into the non-meathead category? Because I'd really like to be on that bandwagon.
I really, really, really, really, really, really, really hate to jump on that bandwagon, but...ugh. I guess so.
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 01:57:17 PM
So are we officially voting the "Fire Lovie Smith" campaign into the non-meathead category? Because I'd really like to be on that bandwagon.
As much as I don't want to be, I'm on that bandwagon.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 08, 2009, 12:24:01 PM
HEY BEARS FAN IN HYDE PARK!!! THAT TOUCHDOWN WAS FOR YOUR HATIN' ASS!@!!!! TAKE OFF YOUR WANNSTEDT PITT JERSEY AND NEVER ROOT FOR THE BEARS AGAIN YOU NEGATIVE, WOURTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!!!
Just wanted to quote this for the "spoke way too soon" category.
And I haven't even brought the negative today--other than pointing out what was obvious...that Tommie is a gutless fucking asshole for that punch and shouldn't put on a Bears jersey again. There's no place for that sort of selfish shit on a team that's only a step above the NFL's bottom feeders.
What really drove the point home today was the drive where Kreutz didn't snap the ball, then hitched in snapping it, causing two false starts before a play was run. There's so little salvageable talent on both sides of the ball right now, that things are probably going to get a lot worse before they get a lot better. I'm not going to say Lovie is a good coach right now, but I'm also not delusional enough to believe that firing the coach is going to make one damn bit of difference in making bad football players play better than bad football players.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 08, 2009, 02:19:32 PM
There's so little salvageable talent on both sides of the ball right now, that things are probably going to get a lot worse before they get a lot better. I'm not going to say Lovie is a good coach right now, but I'm also not delusional enough to believe that firing the coach is going to make one damn bit of difference in making bad football players play better than bad football players.
Horseshit "DOOOOOOOOM FOREVER AND EVER!" posts like this will be the reason why I will be placing a moratorium on reading anything about the Bears in the coming week.
Damn, the Bears are doing just enough now to make the final look respectable. It is 34-21 with 9:00 to go.
starting to get close to a Dennis Green sighthing here...
God, I'm a sinner and you're gonna fuck me.
Quote from: thehawk on November 08, 2009, 02:37:49 PM
starting to get close to a Dennis Green sighthing here...
2:46 PM
The refs in this game are challenging the Bears' defense for "shittiest performance of the day."
I think my entire life as a sports fan this year can be summed up by the bonerific excitement I had over being down by only 13 points in the 4th quarter.
This team is a bigger disappointment than the ass graze was.
The single most important reason why Lovie Smith should be fired might be the fact that Jay Cutler is still in the game.
Quote from: BC on November 08, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
This team is a bigger disappointment than the ass graze was.
I'm embarrassed to have you as an internet acquaintance.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 08, 2009, 02:59:45 PM
The single most important reason why Lovie Smith should be fired might be the fact that Jay Cutler is still in the game.
We are never out of a game with Jay Cutler in. I read it online.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 08, 2009, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 08, 2009, 02:19:32 PM
There's so little salvageable talent on both sides of the ball right now, that things are probably going to get a lot worse before they get a lot better. I'm not going to say Lovie is a good coach right now, but I'm also not delusional enough to believe that firing the coach is going to make one damn bit of difference in making bad football players play better than bad football players.
Horseshit "DOOOOOOOOM FOREVER AND EVER!" posts like this will be the reason why I will be placing a moratorium on reading anything about the Bears in the coming week.
I said it was going to get a lot better. It's just short-term doom. If Cutler stays for a while, the team will win, but the offense surrounding Cutler, as well as a lot of the defense needs an overhaul. That takes a little bit of time--but if it's done right, the team should be good for a while.
Or, I'll just quote what Dolan said:
QuoteThis isn't a playoff team, and worse, it's a team without many good young players. You've got a quarterback, one linebacker, a running back you're optimistic about but no longer sure of, and a lot of mediocrity.
As much as I hate to join the meathead chorus, this looks like a team that needs to start over.
Let's say you're an NFL GM and you're starting a team from scratch. Is there anyone on the Bears you'd even consider for your imaginary squadron other than Cutler, Briggs, and maybe Peanut?
Lovie hasn't covered himself in glory this year but I think Angelo deserves most of the blame here. What a shitshow.
Quote from: R-V on November 08, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
Let's say you're an NFL GM and you're starting a team from scratch. Is there anyone on the Bears you'd even consider for your imaginary squadron other than Cutler, Briggs, and maybe Peanut?
Lovie hasn't covered himself in glory this year but I think Angelo deserves most of the blame here. What a shitshow.
I'd take Hester. In a real offense he'd be pretty terrifying. And you're absolutely right.
Quote from: R-V on November 08, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
Let's say you're an NFL GM and you're starting a team from scratch. Is there anyone on the Bears you'd even consider for your imaginary squadron other than Cutler, Briggs, and maybe Peanut?
Lovie hasn't covered himself in glory this year but I think Angelo deserves most of the blame here. What a shitshow.
I listened to the game on the radio, so I can't really comment on today
(hell, with Joniak calling the game I have no idea what happened on more
than 15 of the plays anyways), but I think that the team actually has a good
core of players that could shine on a functional team. It's just they have enough
holes that teams just scheme against the good players. And the Bears coaches
don't feel the need to ever really do anything different. Supposed changes like lots
more blitzing this year, are worthless because they are the same couple blitzes
over and over. Teams have figured out how to attack Lovie's defense and he
isn't changing it. Teams have figured out how to shut down Turner's offense, and
he isn't changing it. Teams with far worse personnel manage to not get their shit
rocked every week. There's no real reason this defense and offense shouldn't be
at least average. When's the last time they did anything (play call wise) that
surprised you on a single play?
Having said that, I think both Angelo and Lovie share the blame for what
personnel they have brought in. In baseball the GM pretty much makes all
the decisions, but in football both need to be involved because they need
to make sure players fit into the schemes. For the most part, I really think they
have done a solid job in the draft. But free agency has been a total bust. I also
think they should take the rest of the practices this season to build a giant catapult
and launch their strength and conditioning team into the sun.
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Quote from: Pre on November 08, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
I also think they should take the rest of the practices this season to build a giant catapult
and launch their strength and conditioning team into the sun.
Oh man....you know the season has gone down the shitter when we're complaining about Rusty Jones. What a disappointment.
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Intrepid Reader: Brad MaynardHey, lest you forget I was the MVP of this team like nine years ago. So that should count for ... somehting.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 08, 2009, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Intrepid Reader: Brad Maynard
Hey, lest you forget I was the MVP of this team like nine years ago. So that should count for ... somehting.
I like Todd Sauerbrun better, Maynard. He sucked, but he was the Punter with Personality.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 08, 2009, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Intrepid Reader: Brad Maynard
Hey, lest you forget I was the MVP of this team MAC Defensive Player-of-the-Year and MVP like nine years ago. So that should count for ... somehting.
Cardinal'd
Actually, that doesn't sound right. Defensive player of the year? Can his Wikipedia page be wrong?
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Yeah but do we think Angelo can handle retooling the line? One of my favorite comments by Aikman was that the Bears had had offensive line problems the last few years, but hadn't really addressed them.
This of course is complete nonsense, as in the past two years, they've drafted Beekman and Williams, and signed Pace, Olmiyale and Shaffer. The problem has been that so far none of these guys has been better than "meh" while several of them have been horrible, horrible failures. These guys make me miss Blake Brockermeyer.
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Yeah, you and Apex and Pre are right, there's talent there. It just sucks to watch legit ballaz like Fitzgerald and Dockett pwn the shit out of the Bears, while opposing coaches are able to scheme around our 'studs' on a week-to-week basis because of the tasty matchups they can exploit against the other buttwipes the Bears put on the field.
And CT is also right. Angelo couldn't find a long-term solution at offensive line with a flashlight and the other part of that one witty statement.
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Yeah but do we think Angelo can handle retooling the line? One of my favorite comments by Aikman was that the Bears had had offensive line problems the last few years, but hadn't really addressed them.
This of course is complete nonsense, as in the past two years, they've drafted Beekman and Williams, and signed Pace, Olmiyale and Shaffer. The problem has been that so far none of these guys has been better than "meh" while several of them have been horrible, horrible failures. These guys make me miss Blake Brockermeyer.
No, I don't. The best he's managed with that line was signing Tait, Fred Miller, and Ruben Brown, but even that can't count to his credit because he sat on his hands while those guys aged beyond all possible effectiveness. I mean any idiot could look at an offensive line with an average age of 35 and think they should invest some draft picks on the line, but not our idiot.
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Yeah but do we think Angelo can handle retooling the line? One of my favorite comments by Aikman was that the Bears had had offensive line problems the last few years, but hadn't really addressed them.
This of course is complete nonsense, as in the past two years, they've drafted Beekman and Williams, and signed Pace, Olmiyale and Shaffer. The problem has been that so far none of these guys has been better than "meh" while several of them have been horrible, horrible failures. These guys make me miss Blake Brockermeyer.
To be fair, he did have some success with Tait, Miller, Garza, and Brown. That seems like a lifetime ago though.
Angelo should probably be fired though. Because of the Dan Bazuin pick. What the hell was that about?
Edit....what SKO said.
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 06:16:08 PM
they should invest some draft picks on the line
Who needs draft picks....we've got Gaines Adams!
Quote from: Pre on November 08, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: R-V on November 08, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
Let's say you're an NFL GM and you're starting a team from scratch. Is there anyone on the Bears you'd even consider for your imaginary squadron other than Cutler, Briggs, and maybe Peanut?
Lovie hasn't covered himself in glory this year but I think Angelo deserves most of the blame here. What a shitshow.
I listened to the game on the radio, so I can't really comment on today
(hell, with Joniak calling the game I have no idea what happened on more
than 15 of the plays anyways), but I think that the team actually has a good
core of players that could shine on a functional team. It's just they have enough
holes that teams just scheme against the good players. And the Bears coaches
don't feel the need to ever really do anything different. Supposed changes like lots
more blitzing this year, are worthless because they are the same couple blitzes
over and over. Teams have figured out how to attack Lovie's defense and he
isn't changing it. Teams have figured out how to shut down Turner's offense, and
he isn't changing it. Teams with far worse personnel manage to not get their shit
rocked every week. There's no real reason this defense and offense shouldn't be
at least average. When's the last time they did anything (play call wise) that
surprised you on a single play?
Having said that, I think both Angelo and Lovie share the blame for what
personnel they have brought in. In baseball the GM pretty much makes all
the decisions, but in football both need to be involved because they need
to make sure players fit into the schemes. For the most part, I really think they
have done a solid job in the draft. But free agency has been a total bust. I also
think they should take the rest of the practices this season to build a giant catapult
and launch their strength and conditioning team into the sun.
This is why I think the Bears are headed for a coaching change.
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2009, 06:16:52 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 08, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Really the offensive skill position players are all good, young, and cheap. Cutler, Hester, Bennett, Knox, Forte, and Olsen have all shown talent. With a legitimate offensive line they'd be extremely dangerous. There's enough there to build an offense around if Chris Williams and Josh Beekman pan out and they can find some way to retool the rest of the line. The defense, however, is totally fucked. Briggs is the only person over there that's a legitimately good NFL player. So yeah, just replace the entire defensive line, every cornerback and safety, find a strong side linebacker, and hope Urlacher can play a few more years, and this can totally be a contending team. Oh, I'd keep Robbie Gould too.
Yeah but do we think Angelo can handle retooling the line? One of my favorite comments by Aikman was that the Bears had had offensive line problems the last few years, but hadn't really addressed them.
This of course is complete nonsense, as in the past two years, they've drafted Beekman and Williams, and signed Pace, Olmiyale and Shaffer. The problem has been that so far none of these guys has been better than "meh" while several of them have been horrible, horrible failures. These guys make me miss Blake Brockermeyer.
To be fair, he did have some success with Tait, Miller, Garza, and Brown. That seems like a lifetime ago though.
Angelo should probably be fired though. Because of the Dan Bazuin & Garret Wolfe picks. What the hell was that about?
Edit....what SKO said.
DPD
Another useless draft pick'd
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 08, 2009, 06:30:39 PM
Quote from: Pre on November 08, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: R-V on November 08, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
Let's say you're an NFL GM and you're starting a team from scratch. Is there anyone on the Bears you'd even consider for your imaginary squadron other than Cutler, Briggs, and maybe Peanut?
Lovie hasn't covered himself in glory this year but I think Angelo deserves most of the blame here. What a shitshow.
I listened to the game on the radio, so I can't really comment on today
(hell, with Joniak calling the game I have no idea what happened on more
than 15 of the plays anyways), but I think that the team actually has a good
core of players that could shine on a functional team. It's just they have enough
holes that teams just scheme against the good players. And the Bears coaches
don't feel the need to ever really do anything different. Supposed changes like lots
more blitzing this year, are worthless because they are the same couple blitzes
over and over. Teams have figured out how to attack Lovie's defense and he
isn't changing it. Teams have figured out how to shut down Turner's offense, and
he isn't changing it. Teams with far worse personnel manage to not get their shit
rocked every week. There's no real reason this defense and offense shouldn't be
at least average. When's the last time they did anything (play call wise) that
surprised you on a single play?
Having said that, I think both Angelo and Lovie share the blame for what
personnel they have brought in. In baseball the GM pretty much makes all
the decisions, but in football both need to be involved because they need
to make sure players fit into the schemes. For the most part, I really think they
have done a solid job in the draft. But free agency has been a total bust. I also
think they should take the rest of the practices this season to build a giant catapult
and launch their strength and conditioning team into the sun.
This is why I think the Bears are headed for a coaching change.
He's owed $12MM over two years. You think the McCaskeys are going to eat that and then pay Shanahan or whoever to come in here for twice that? Nosir. If they eat it, they'll hire Dan Hampton or something.
I am now, after years of defending this passive cumjob, placing both feet squarely on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon. Hole. E. Fuck is this guy a jamoke.
And that bald-headed dickrocket Rod Marinelli? Jesus that guy's done nothing. I wasn't expecting this fuck job to turn this D-Line into a new Steel Curtain, but with all of the hype this guy had, I would have at least expected that line to be marginally better from last year, not markedly worse.
Cutler threw for 369 yards and 3 TDs with only 1 pick
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 08, 2009, 06:32:37 PM
He's owed $12MM over two years. You think the McCaskeys are going to eat that and then pay Shanahan or whoever to come in here for twice that? Nosir. If they eat it, they'll hire Dan Hampton or something.
Many true things been have been said here today, but I'm afraid this may be the truest. The McClaskey Family can suck a fat cock. They aren't going to spend anything more than the absolute minimum on this team while they rake in cash from their gift of a publically funded stadium.
I hope they fire Lovie and hand the whole thing over to Buffone and O'Bradovich, so they can finally put their cutting edge 1970s era football strategies into practice. At least it'd be great theater.
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 08, 2009, 06:32:37 PM
He's owed $12MM over two years. You think the McCaskeys are going to eat that and then pay Shanahan or whoever to come in here for twice that? Nosir. If they eat it, they'll hire Dan Hampton or something.
Many true things been have been said here today, but I'm afraid this may be the truest. The McClaskey Family can suck a fat cock. They aren't going to spend anything more than the absolute minimum on this team while they rake in cash from their gift of a publically funded stadium.
From what I understand, the McCaskeys are at or near the bottom of the income scale when it comes to NFL owners. Isn't that why they attempted to get the rules rewritten so that minority owners could be primary owners? I could be wrong about this of course.
So no matter what, no matter how bad it gets, Lovie's contract makes his job safe? What if they go 4-12?
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2009, 11:37:06 PM
So no matter what, no matter how bad it gets, Lovie's contract makes his job safe? What if they go 4-12?
Ahem... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/WannDa0.htm
More specifically:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/1997.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/1998.htm
Quote from: SKO on November 09, 2009, 07:14:24 AM
More specifically:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/1997.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/1998.htm
Well, that certainly brightened my morning.
On the bright side, at least there was entertainment at the game yesterday. The fat slobbering meatball sitting behind me insisted after the first Cardinals touchdown "Just look at de body language on dese mudderfuckers. Dey are already defeated. I been settin in dese seats for 26 years and I never seen cotches as bad as Lovie and Norv Turner. Ditka would never tolerate dis kind of play from dese mudderfuckers."
I hadn't been to a game for a couple years, I'd almost forgotten how amusing the beerfart meatwads in the stands can be.
Quote from: R-V on November 09, 2009, 08:36:29 AM
On the bright side, at least there was entertainment at the game yesterday. The fat slobbering meatball sitting behind me insisted after the first Cardinals touchdown "Just look at de body language on dese mudderfuckers. Dey are already defeated. I been settin in dese seats for 26 years and I never seen cotches as bad as Lovie and Norv Turner. Ditka would never tolerate dis kind of play from dese mudderfuckers."
I hadn't been to a game for a couple years, I'd almost forgotten how amusing the beerfart meatwads in the stands can be.
You should have asked how he was able to sit in dose seats for the 19 years before they moved into the new digs.
Quote from: R-V on November 09, 2009, 08:36:29 AM
On the bright side, at least there was entertainment at the game yesterday. The fat slobbering meatball sitting behind me insisted after the first Cardinals touchdown "Just look at de body language on dese mudderfuckers. Dey are already defeated. I been settin in dese seats for 26 years and I never seen cotches as bad as Lovie and Norv Turner. Ditka would never tolerate dis kind of play from dese mudderfuckers."
I hadn't been to a game for a couple years, I'd almost forgotten how amusing the beerfart meatwads in the stands can be.
The sad part is he's half right. Not about the retarded Ditka babble, but that team is just going through the motions. I hate to compare Lovie to Dusty, because he's better than that, but it seems similar right now to the 2005-2006 Cubs. I just don't think there's much accountability in that locker room. Granted, part of that may be the players giving up on Lovie and simply wondering why they should be held accountable for him mindlessly calling a retarded coverage that every offense in the NFL has figured it out.
How is this for embarrassing? When the half time show ended someone from Fox Sports came on and apologized to us in the Bay Area, saying that they thought that they had chosen a competitive game to show us but they obviously hadn't so they were ending their coverage of the Bears/Cardinals game and taking us to the Tampa Bay/Greenbay game because it was better. Guess what? They were right.
I'm having a hard time getting on this FIRE LOVEE SMITFH bandwagon. It's not that I don't think they can do better, b/c I know they can. But being on that "FIRE ____________" bandwagon just makes me think Meathead FJH FDB2 670 murph caller. That's a bad thought
Speaking of Murph... While listening to Boers & Bernstein on Friday, they played a clip of Murph for a second and Boers followed up with something to the effect of "If you had a thought or two, then you might still have a job." It made me quite happy.
I'd trade Tom Coughlin for Lovie Smith, even up.
Quote from: Fork on November 09, 2009, 09:17:46 AM
I'd trade Tom Coughlin for Lovie Smith, even up.
Yeah. Holy shit that was poor strategism at the end of the Giants/Chargers game yesterday. And that aborted kick? I don't... I'd be hella pissed if I was youse.
Quote from: flannj on November 09, 2009, 08:18:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 09, 2009, 07:14:24 AM
More specifically:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/1997.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/1998.htm
Well, that certainly brightened my morning.
Goddamit.
Quote from: CBStew on November 09, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
How is this for embarrassing? When the half time show ended someone from Fox Sports came on and apologized to us in the Bay Area, saying that they thought that they had chosen a competitive game to show us but they obviously hadn't so they were ending their coverage of the Bears/Cardinals game and taking us to the Tampa Bay/Greenbay game because it was better. Guess what? They were right.
Did you not get to see the end of the Bucs/Packers either?
We got a whole 5 minutes of that one before NFL rules stipulated that we couldn't watch Rogers' game-sealing INT.
Quote from: SKO on November 09, 2009, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 09, 2009, 08:36:29 AM
On the bright side, at least there was entertainment at the game yesterday. The fat slobbering meatball sitting behind me insisted after the first Cardinals touchdown "Just look at de body language on dese mudderfuckers. Dey are already defeated. I been settin in dese seats for 26 years and I never seen cotches as bad as Lovie and Norv Turner. Ditka would never tolerate dis kind of play from dese mudderfuckers."
I hadn't been to a game for a couple years, I'd almost forgotten how amusing the beerfart meatwads in the stands can be.
The sad part is he's half right. Not about the retarded Ditka babble, but that team is just going through the motions. I hate to compare Lovie to Dusty, because he's better than that, but it seems similar right now to the 2005-2006 Cubs. I just don't think there's much accountability in that locker room. Granted, part of that may be the players giving up on Lovie and simply wondering why they should be held accountable for him mindlessly calling a retarded coverage that every offense in the NFL has figured it out.
There was quite a few times during the game that Helen just threw his hands up in dismay after another Cards third down conversion.
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
I hope they fire Lovie and hand the whole thing over to Buffone and O'Bradovich, so they can finally put their cutting edge 1970s era football strategies into practice. At least it'd be great theater.
STOP YOURSELF!
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 10:24:43 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 08, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
I hope they fire Lovie and hand the whole thing over to Buffone and O'Bradovich, so they can finally put their cutting edge 1970s era football strategies into practice. At least it'd be great theater.
STOP YOURSELF!
DICK JAURON!
I really don't think there is a scheme of any sort that would prevent Larry Fitzgerald from beating any three defenders the Bears chose to put on him at any given time. So you should instead, try to stop the run and get in Warner's face to make him fire early or off the mark. If they could have done that about half the time, they'd have given up ~30 points or so and been very much alive in the game. They just don't have the personnel to stop anything. That's partly because Urlacher and Pisa are Audi 5Gs and Tommie is channelling Alonzo Spellman these days. But that secondary has no thread of hope in it and it has been so since late 2006. All the draft picks they've selected to play back there have been useless save for Manning and Hester who are better at doing other things (who knew?).
I tend to give coaches and GMs more rope than most people on this board or anywhere in the city. But I've given Jerry and Lovie plenty of rope and they've hung us all with it. I'm done. I'm now watching Bears games simply to see what it looks like when a real quarterback operates in a Blue/Black uni with orange stripes on the sleeve. It's more a curiosity than a pastime. I'm going to need lots of beer and green. Fuck all.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 10:42:32 AM
I really don't think there is a scheme of any sort that would prevent Larry Fitzgerald from beating any three defenders the Bears chose to put on him at any given time. So you should instead, try to stop the run and get in Warner's face to make him fire early or off the mark. If they could have done that about half the time, they'd have given up ~30 points or so and been very much alive in the game. They just don't have the personnel to stop anything. That's partly because Urlacher and Pisa are Audi 5Gs and Tommie is channelling Alonzo Spellman these days. But that secondary has no thread of hope in it and it has been so since late 2006.
Tommiie Harris was in for four plays and he got a sack on one of them. I'm not saying he's been anything better than average, but considering what the defense has looked like when he hasn't played, maybe his season has not quite been the shitfest that every commentator seems to believe it has been.
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
Yet they continue to run a defensive scheme requiring an awesome middle linebacker.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 10:42:32 AM
I really don't think there is a scheme of any sort that would prevent Larry Fitzgerald from beating any three defenders the Bears chose to put on him at any given time. So you should instead, try to stop the run and get in Warner's face to make him fire early or off the mark. If they could have done that about half the time, they'd have given up ~30 points or so and been very much alive in the game. They just don't have the personnel to stop anything. That's partly because Urlacher and Pisa are Audi 5Gs and Tommie is channelling Alonzo Spellman these days. But that secondary has no thread of hope in it and it has been so since late 2006. All the draft picks they've selected to play back there have been useless save for Manning and Hester who are better at doing other things (who knew?).
I tend to give coaches and GMs more rope than most people on this board or anywhere in the city. But I've given Jerry and Lovie plenty of rope and they've hung us all with it. I'm done. I'm now watching Bears games simply to see what it looks like when a real quarterback operates in a Blue/Black uni with orange stripes on the sleeve. It's more a curiosity than a pastime. I'm going to need lots of beer and green. Fuck all.
Well, I had to look that one up. (http://www.zazzle.com/pd/realviewpopup?url=http%3A%2F%2Frlv.zcache.com%2Fisapi%2Fdesignall.dll%3Faction%3Drealview%26pdt%3Dmug%26pending%3Dfalse%26pid%3D168421401815798969%26rvtype%3Dproduct%26view%3Doutside%26max_dim%3D996%26bg%3D0xFFFFFF%26square_it%3Dtrue%26draw_relative_size%3Dtrue%26style%3Dbasic_mug%26color%3Dwhite%26size%3D11oz%26lon%3D90%26t_definition_iid%3D90f0905b-9ee7-48cf-a5fd-9e9c2b4433f5%26drawareaboundingbox%3Dfalse%26drawsafearea%3Dfalse&dim=996)
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
You CANNOT WIN WITH THEM!
Quote from: MAD on November 09, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
You CANNOT WIN WITH THEM!
At least it will be a short week. And if we're keeping track, I officially threw down my 2009 Bears Romeo on when after the blocked FG/FG.
Hey, flannj. Nice sleuthing and FYI:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muV9_caogbU
@ 2:00.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 10:42:32 AM
I really don't think there is a scheme of any sort that would prevent Larry Fitzgerald from beating any three defenders the Bears chose to put on him at any given time. So you should instead, try to stop the run and get in Warner's face to make him fire early or off the mark. If they could have done that about half the time, they'd have given up ~30 points or so and been very much alive in the game. They just don't have the personnel to stop anything. That's partly because Urlacher and Pisa are Audi 5Gs and Tommie is channelling Alonzo Spellman these days. But that secondary has no thread of hope in it and it has been so since late 2006.
Tommiie Harris was in for four plays and he got a sack on one of them. I'm not saying he's been anything better than average, but considering what the defense has looked like when he hasn't played, maybe his season has not quite been the shitfest that every commentator seems to believe it has been.
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
He did?
Arizona - 14:54
1st-10, ARI19 14:54 K. Warner incomplete pass to the left
2nd-10, ARI19 14:49 K. Warner incomplete pass to the right
3rd-10, ARI19 14:46 K. Warner passed to S. Breaston to the left for 23 yard gain
1st-10, ARI42 14:06 T. Hightower rushed to the right for 13 yard gain. CHI committed 15 yard penalty
1st-10, CHI30 13:38 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald to the left for 13 yard gain
1st-10, CHI17 13:21 B. Wells rushed to the left for 6 yard gain
2nd-4, CHI11 13:03 T. Hightower rushed to the right for no gain
3rd-4, CHI11 12:12 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald down the middle for 11 yard touchdown. N. Rackers made PAT
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 10:42:32 AM
I really don't think there is a scheme of any sort that would prevent Larry Fitzgerald from beating any three defenders the Bears chose to put on him at any given time. So you should instead, try to stop the run and get in Warner's face to make him fire early or off the mark. If they could have done that about half the time, they'd have given up ~30 points or so and been very much alive in the game. They just don't have the personnel to stop anything. That's partly because Urlacher and Pisa are Audi 5Gs and Tommie is channelling Alonzo Spellman these days. But that secondary has no thread of hope in it and it has been so since late 2006.
Tommiie Harris was in for four plays and he got a sack on one of them. I'm not saying he's been anything better than average, but considering what the defense has looked like when he hasn't played, maybe his season has not quite been the shitfest that every commentator seems to believe it has been.
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
He did?
Arizona - 14:54
1st-10, ARI19 14:54 K. Warner incomplete pass to the left
2nd-10, ARI19 14:49 K. Warner incomplete pass to the right
3rd-10, ARI19 14:46 K. Warner passed to S. Breaston to the left for 23 yard gain
1st-10, ARI42 14:06 T. Hightower rushed to the right for 13 yard gain. CHI committed 15 yard penalty
1st-10, CHI30 13:38 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald to the left for 13 yard gain
1st-10, CHI17 13:21 B. Wells rushed to the left for 6 yard gain
2nd-4, CHI11 13:03 T. Hightower rushed to the right for no gain
3rd-4, CHI11 12:12 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald down the middle for 11 yard touchdown. N. Rackers made PAT
He rushed the passer on the second play of the game and got Grandpa Warner to hurry a throw. At least i think that's what happened as the 300 pound woman in front of me jumped up while the play was going on, thinking that he had the sack--not that jumping up from your seat during a second down sack in the first series of the first drive of the first quarter of a game is EVER justified*.
*
Que something from CT about the Huebiter not approving of people jumping up from their seats et.al...
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 10:42:32 AM
I really don't think there is a scheme of any sort that would prevent Larry Fitzgerald from beating any three defenders the Bears chose to put on him at any given time. So you should instead, try to stop the run and get in Warner's face to make him fire early or off the mark. If they could have done that about half the time, they'd have given up ~30 points or so and been very much alive in the game. They just don't have the personnel to stop anything. That's partly because Urlacher and Pisa are Audi 5Gs and Tommie is channelling Alonzo Spellman these days. But that secondary has no thread of hope in it and it has been so since late 2006.
Tommiie Harris was in for four plays and he got a sack on one of them. I'm not saying he's been anything better than average, but considering what the defense has looked like when he hasn't played, maybe his season has not quite been the shitfest that every commentator seems to believe it has been.
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
He did?
Arizona - 14:54
1st-10, ARI19 14:54 K. Warner incomplete pass to the left
2nd-10, ARI19 14:49 K. Warner incomplete pass to the right
3rd-10, ARI19 14:46 K. Warner passed to S. Breaston to the left for 23 yard gain
1st-10, ARI42 14:06 T. Hightower rushed to the right for 13 yard gain. CHI committed 15 yard penalty
1st-10, CHI30 13:38 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald to the left for 13 yard gain
1st-10, CHI17 13:21 B. Wells rushed to the left for 6 yard gain
2nd-4, CHI11 13:03 T. Hightower rushed to the right for no gain
3rd-4, CHI11 12:12 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald down the middle for 11 yard touchdown. N. Rackers made PAT
Yea. He sacked Deuce Lutui.
Quote from: MAD on November 09, 2009, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 10:42:32 AM
I really don't think there is a scheme of any sort that would prevent Larry Fitzgerald from beating any three defenders the Bears chose to put on him at any given time. So you should instead, try to stop the run and get in Warner's face to make him fire early or off the mark. If they could have done that about half the time, they'd have given up ~30 points or so and been very much alive in the game. They just don't have the personnel to stop anything. That's partly because Urlacher and Pisa are Audi 5Gs and Tommie is channelling Alonzo Spellman these days. But that secondary has no thread of hope in it and it has been so since late 2006.
Tommiie Harris was in for four plays and he got a sack on one of them. I'm not saying he's been anything better than average, but considering what the defense has looked like when he hasn't played, maybe his season has not quite been the shitfest that every commentator seems to believe it has been.
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
He did?
Arizona - 14:54
1st-10, ARI19 14:54 K. Warner incomplete pass to the left
2nd-10, ARI19 14:49 K. Warner incomplete pass to the right
3rd-10, ARI19 14:46 K. Warner passed to S. Breaston to the left for 23 yard gain
1st-10, ARI42 14:06 T. Hightower rushed to the right for 13 yard gain. CHI committed 15 yard penalty
1st-10, CHI30 13:38 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald to the left for 13 yard gain
1st-10, CHI17 13:21 B. Wells rushed to the left for 6 yard gain
2nd-4, CHI11 13:03 T. Hightower rushed to the right for no gain
3rd-4, CHI11 12:12 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald down the middle for 11 yard touchdown. N. Rackers made PAT
He rushed the passer on the second play of the game and got Grandpa Warner to hurry a throw. At least i think that's what happened as the 300 pound woman in front of me jumped up while the play was going on, thinking that he had the sack--not that jumping up from your seat during a second down sack in the first series of the first drive of the first quarter of a game is EVER justified*.
*Que something from CT about the Huebiter not approving of people jumping up from their seats et.al...
He only got to Warner because there was a missed assignment, he was completely unblocked.
Quote from: CBStew on November 09, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
How is this for embarrassing? When the half time show ended someone from Fox Sports came on and apologized to us in the Bay Area, saying that they thought that they had chosen a competitive game to show us but they obviously hadn't so they were ending their coverage of the Bears/Cardinals game and taking us to the Tampa Bay/Greenbay game because it was better. Guess what? They were right.
Got the same message in LA. I threw my hat at the TV.
They kept our coverage on until the 10 min mark in the 3rd quarter, though. It was too much, in my opinion. I watched Fletch instead.
Quote from: R-V on November 09, 2009, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: MAD on November 09, 2009, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 10:42:32 AM
I really don't think there is a scheme of any sort that would prevent Larry Fitzgerald from beating any three defenders the Bears chose to put on him at any given time. So you should instead, try to stop the run and get in Warner's face to make him fire early or off the mark. If they could have done that about half the time, they'd have given up ~30 points or so and been very much alive in the game. They just don't have the personnel to stop anything. That's partly because Urlacher and Pisa are Audi 5Gs and Tommie is channelling Alonzo Spellman these days. But that secondary has no thread of hope in it and it has been so since late 2006.
Tommiie Harris was in for four plays and he got a sack on one of them. I'm not saying he's been anything better than average, but considering what the defense has looked like when he hasn't played, maybe his season has not quite been the shitfest that every commentator seems to believe it has been.
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
He did?
Arizona - 14:54
1st-10, ARI19 14:54 K. Warner incomplete pass to the left
2nd-10, ARI19 14:49 K. Warner incomplete pass to the right
3rd-10, ARI19 14:46 K. Warner passed to S. Breaston to the left for 23 yard gain
1st-10, ARI42 14:06 T. Hightower rushed to the right for 13 yard gain. CHI committed 15 yard penalty
1st-10, CHI30 13:38 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald to the left for 13 yard gain
1st-10, CHI17 13:21 B. Wells rushed to the left for 6 yard gain
2nd-4, CHI11 13:03 T. Hightower rushed to the right for no gain
3rd-4, CHI11 12:12 K. Warner passed to L. Fitzgerald down the middle for 11 yard touchdown. N. Rackers made PAT
He rushed the passer on the second play of the game and got Grandpa Warner to hurry a throw. At least i think that's what happened as the 300 pound woman in front of me jumped up while the play was going on, thinking that he had the sack--not that jumping up from your seat during a second down sack in the first series of the first drive of the first quarter of a game is EVER justified*.
*Que something from CT about the Huebiter not approving of people jumping up from their seats et.al...
He only got to Warner because there was a missed assignment, he was completely unblocked.
What RV said. Also, I'll back Huey on this one, as I don't feel that 300 lb women should ever jump up and down, regardless of the circumstances.
Quote from: Pre on November 09, 2009, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
Yet they continue to run a defensive scheme requiring an awesome middle linebacker.
And a stud defensive tackle, a hard hitting, sure tackling safety, a fast weakside linebacker, and at least one shutdown corner. They have...one of those right now, so they should Totally keep running the Tampa 2.
Quote from: SKO on November 09, 2009, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Pre on November 09, 2009, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
Yet they continue to run a defensive scheme requiring an awesome middle linebacker.
And a stud defensive tackle, a hard hitting, sure tackling safety, a fast weakside linebacker, and at least one shutdown corner. They have...one of those right now, so they should Totally keep running the Tampa 2.
They should run whatever Rob Ryan's running. Because all his players suck balls too. That would seem to be the model.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 01:03:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 09, 2009, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Pre on November 09, 2009, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 09, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
And as much as I am reluctantly on the "Fire Lovie" bandwagon (VERY reluctantly, meatheads), the fact that they're starting linebackers who barely missed getting cut at the beginning of the season just kinda sucks.
Yet they continue to run a defensive scheme requiring an awesome middle linebacker.
And a stud defensive tackle, a hard hitting, sure tackling safety, a fast weakside linebacker, and at least one shutdown corner. They have...one of those right now, so they should Totally keep running the Tampa 2.
They should run whatever Rob Ryan's running. Because all his players suck balls too. That would seem to be the model.
Are you sassin' me? I don't reckon I take kindly to that.
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 12:38:13 PM
What RV said. Also, I'll back Huey on this one, as I don't feel that 300 lb women should ever jump up and down, regardless of the circumstances.
if it's part of a weight loss program, I'm all for it, as long as I don't have to see it.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 12:03:57 PM
Quote from: MAD on November 09, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
You CANNOT WIN WITH THEM!
At least it will be a short week. And if we're keeping track, I officially threw down my 2009 Bears Romeo on when after the blocked FG/FG.
Hey, flannj. Nice sleuthing and FYI:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muV9_caogbU
@ 2:00.
I prefer the word "gone". It's got a sort of woody quality about it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T70-HTlKRXo)
Quote from: flannj on November 09, 2009, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 12:03:57 PM
Quote from: MAD on November 09, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
You CANNOT WIN WITH THEM!
At least it will be a short week. And if we're keeping track, I officially threw down my 2009 Bears Romeo on when after the blocked FG/FG.
Hey, flannj. Nice sleuthing and FYI:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muV9_caogbU
@ 2:00.
I prefer the word "gone". It's got a sort of woody quality about it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T70-HTlKRXo)
Caribou, gone.
Now that Dave Kaplan is tweeting about firing Lovie Smith, I've become Lovie's number one fan.
Quote from: Slack-E on November 09, 2009, 02:32:48 PM
Now that Dave Kaplan is tweeting about firing Lovie Smith, I've become Lovie's number one fan.
THIS THIS THIS THIS
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
They've been pretty resigned to their fate today. They're kicking the tires on a Lovie firing too, throwing Angelo under the bus for the recent draft classes and saying that no coach could take this group of duds anywhere other than the place they're going, which is football hell. So you can skip it and pump Teh Boss turned up to 11 on your commute. You're welcome.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
They've been pretty resigned to their fate today. They're kicking the tires on a Lovie firing too, throwing Angelo under the bus for the recent draft classes and saying that no coach could take this group of duds anyplace other than the place they're going, which is football hell. So you can skip and pump Teh Boss turned up to 11 on your commute. You're welcome.
So this is what's it's come to? Apex suggesting Cracker Springsteen for the ride home?
The Blackhawks better win tonight...
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 09, 2009, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: flannj on November 09, 2009, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 12:03:57 PM
Quote from: MAD on November 09, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
You CANNOT WIN WITH THEM!
At least it will be a short week. And if we're keeping track, I officially threw down my 2009 Bears Romeo on when after the blocked FG/FG.
Hey, flannj. Nice sleuthing and FYI:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muV9_caogbU
@ 2:00.
I prefer the word "gone". It's got a sort of woody quality about it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T70-HTlKRXo)
Caribou, gone.
I'm not going to argue that Monty Python isn't better than Flava Flav. I'm just trying to educate people about early 90s rap slang. Because that's what I do.
Quote from: Oleg on November 09, 2009, 03:28:32 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
They've been pretty resigned to their fate today. They're kicking the tires on a Lovie firing too, throwing Angelo under the bus for the recent draft classes and saying that no coach could take this group of duds anyplace other than the place they're going, which is football hell. So you can skip and pump Teh Boss turned up to 11 on your commute. You're welcome.
So this is what's it's come to? Apex suggesting Cracker Springsteen for the ride home?
The Blackhawks better win tonight...
I assumed he was referring to the female gangster rapper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_%28rapper%29) from detroit, "who enjoyed brief popularity in 1993 with her debut album Born Gangstaz. Her name is sometimes spelled Bo$$. The name Boss is a backronym that stands for "Bitch On Some Shit"".
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on November 09, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 09, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
How is this for embarrassing? When the half time show ended someone from Fox Sports came on and apologized to us in the Bay Area, saying that they thought that they had chosen a competitive game to show us but they obviously hadn't so they were ending their coverage of the Bears/Cardinals game and taking us to the Tampa Bay/Greenbay game because it was better. Guess what? They were right.
Got the same message in LA. I threw my hat at the TV.
They kept our coverage on until the 10 min mark in the 3rd quarter, though. It was too much, in my opinion. I watched Fletch instead.
They switched to the Bucs game here too.
But hey, those Tampa Bay throwbacks were sweet.
Uncle Fuzzy appeared to be reading his rant.
If he can read, that is.
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: Oleg on November 09, 2009, 03:28:32 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
They've been pretty resigned to their fate today. They're kicking the tires on a Lovie firing too, throwing Angelo under the bus for the recent draft classes and saying that no coach could take this group of duds anyplace other than the place they're going, which is football hell. So you can skip and pump Teh Boss turned up to 11 on your commute. You're welcome.
So this is what's it's come to? Apex suggesting Cracker Springsteen for the ride home?
The Blackhawks better win tonight...
I assumed he was referring to the female gangster rapper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_%28rapper%29) from detroit, "who enjoyed brief popularity in 1993 with her debut album Born Gangstaz. Her name is sometimes spelled Bo$$. The name Boss is a backronym that stands for "Bitch On Some Shit"".
Yeah, of course that's what I was talking about.
Quote from: BH on November 09, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: Oleg on November 09, 2009, 03:28:32 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 09, 2009, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
They've been pretty resigned to their fate today. They're kicking the tires on a Lovie firing too, throwing Angelo under the bus for the recent draft classes and saying that no coach could take this group of duds anyplace other than the place they're going, which is football hell. So you can skip and pump Teh Boss turned up to 11 on your commute. You're welcome.
So this is what's it's come to? Apex suggesting Cracker Springsteen for the ride home?
The Blackhawks better win tonight...
I assumed he was referring to the female gangster rapper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_%28rapper%29) from detroit, "who enjoyed brief popularity in 1993 with her debut album Born Gangstaz. Her name is sometimes spelled Bo$$. The name Boss is a backronym that stands for "Bitch On Some Shit"".
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6543.msg166344#msg166344
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 02, 2009, 07:22:34 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on February 01, 2009, 09:51:50 PM
Quote from: Weebs on February 01, 2009, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: 5laky on February 01, 2009, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 01, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
ANGRY!
Goddamn fucking Pittsburgh.
How about we talk about the real travesty of this game...was anyone in that halftime show audience under 50?
His name is Bruce Springsteen. A lot of people under 50 really like his music.
I like The Sopranos. I kind of wish Bruce Cougar Mellonstien was never born though.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
I listened to some of the postgame, and it was pretty much the same. The most outstanding part of it was O'Bradovich did nothing but bitch about the offense, how the way to compensate for the poor pass blocking is to roll Cutler out. MOVE THE POCKET. How the fuck he was expecting a bunch of guys who can't pull without smacking into each other to roll out and block, he never explained. He also didn't explain how you move something that doesn't exist to begin with. That's a question for the ages.
Buffone was more of his standard
"THERESNOPRIDEORHEARTONTHISTEAMANDTHESEGUYSARESUPPOSETOBEPROFESSIONALSSOPLAYTHEDAMNGAMETHEWAYITWASMEANTTOBEPLAYEDLIKEDICKBUTKUSDID!"
"Bruce Cougar Mellonstien" LOL!
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 03:56:34 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
I listened to some of the postgame, and it was pretty much the same. The most outstanding part of it was O'Bradovich did nothing but bitch about the offense, how the way to compensate for the poor pass blocking is to roll Cutler out. MOVE THE POCKET. How the fuck he was expecting a bunch of guys who can't pull without smacking into each other to roll out and block, he never explained. He also didn't explain how you move something that doesn't exist to begin with. That's a question for the ages.
Buffone was more of his standard
"THERESNOPRIDEORHEARTONTHISTEAMANDTHESEGUYSARESUPPOSETOBEPROFESSIONALSSOPLAYTHEDAMNGAMETHEWAYITWASMEANTTOBEPLAYEDLIKEDICKBUTKUSDID!"
I heard a chunk of this and can confirm. OB would not stop yelling about the goddamn offense. Seriously, OB - watch the fucking game.
Quote from: Slack-E on November 09, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 03:56:34 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on November 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 09, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
I have the feeling this is going to be one of the finest Meatball Fan weeks in Bears history.
Let the angst over the Bears letting Singletary get away commence.
Did you actually listen to Buffone after the game? I didn't, either. But on the astonishingly terrible Danny Mac Show, they played a rant from Doug that would have been epic if it didn't sound so fake. He was shouting into the microphone for about three minutes straight. I am actually looking forward to hearing Boers & Bernstein slam the mouth-breathers on the ride home.
I listened to some of the postgame, and it was pretty much the same. The most outstanding part of it was O'Bradovich did nothing but bitch about the offense, how the way to compensate for the poor pass blocking is to roll Cutler out. MOVE THE POCKET. How the fuck he was expecting a bunch of guys who can't pull without smacking into each other to roll out and block, he never explained. He also didn't explain how you move something that doesn't exist to begin with. That's a question for the ages.
Buffone was more of his standard
"THERESNOPRIDEORHEARTONTHISTEAMANDTHESEGUYSARESUPPOSETOBEPROFESSIONALSSOPLAYTHEDAMNGAMETHEWAYITWASMEANTTOBEPLAYEDLIKEDICKBUTKUSDID!" (http://www.wgntv.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=ddc3220f-ddc2-4d8a-830e-aa8c83a275c6&src=front)
I heard a chunk of this and can confirm. OB would not stop yelling about the goddamn offense. Seriously, OB - watch the fucking game.
Added link from WGN TV as it was exactly that. Oh, and confirmation that neither Doug Buffone nor Ed O'Bradovich had a hand in any of the play calling.
I watched the Broncos games and then went over to check some of the comments at Broncotalk. I didn't comment, because I'm not a troll and frankly I'm tired of Bronco fans popping over, but some of the comments about Orton were downright hysterical:
"Two games of Chicago Orton! BOOOO!"
"They aren't even trying to throw deep!"
"We have to throw deep at least once to intimidate the damn defenses!"
"I think teams mighta figured out our offsne!"
"I wish I could have Cutler's arm and Orton's brains..."
"Nice job, how many times now has he thrown a 3 yard pass to Bmarsh on 3rd and 7??"
Quote from: SKO on November 10, 2009, 07:24:33 AM
I watched the Broncos games and then went over to check some of the comments at Broncotalk. I didn't comment, because I'm not a troll and frankly I'm tired of Bronco fans popping over, but some of the comments about Orton were downright hysterical:
"Two games of Chicago Orton! BOOOO!"
"They aren't even trying to throw deep!"
"We have to throw deep at least once to intimidate the damn defenses!"
"I think teams mighta figured out our offsne!"
"I wish I could have Cutler's arm and Orton's brains..."
"Nice job, how many times now has he thrown a 3 yard pass to Bmarsh on 3rd and 7??"
If they had Cutler they'd be a fucking title contender. Oh, well. They're going the playoffs and we're not. KLD:SFj;aka;lk
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 07:45:59 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 10, 2009, 07:24:33 AM
I watched the Broncos games and then went over to check some of the comments at Broncotalk. I didn't comment, because I'm not a troll and frankly I'm tired of Bronco fans popping over, but some of the comments about Orton were downright hysterical:
"Two games of Chicago Orton! BOOOO!"
"They aren't even trying to throw deep!"
"We have to throw deep at least once to intimidate the damn defenses!"
"I think teams mighta figured out our offsne!"
"I wish I could have Cutler's arm and Orton's brains..."
"Nice job, how many times now has he thrown a 3 yard pass to Bmarsh on 3rd and 7??"
If they had Cutler they'd be a fucking title contender. Oh, well. They're going the playoffs and we're not. KLD:SFj;aka;lk
They've gotten their asses thoroughly handed to them the last two weeks, last week by a Baltimore team that just got completely shut down by the Bengals. The Chargers are only a game back and they're hot right now. It's a tough AFC, and teams have figured out that if you rush Orton and take away all of those nice, cushy underneath routes and prevent his receivers from getting free YAC he can't really do much. Are they still better than the Bears right now? Yes. Are they Definitely a playoff team? Not so sure. Am I that asshole that likes to ask and answer his own questions as a rhetorical method? Yes.
Quote from: SKO on November 10, 2009, 07:52:44 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 07:45:59 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 10, 2009, 07:24:33 AM
I watched the Broncos games and then went over to check some of the comments at Broncotalk. I didn't comment, because I'm not a troll and frankly I'm tired of Bronco fans popping over, but some of the comments about Orton were downright hysterical:
"Two games of Chicago Orton! BOOOO!"
"They aren't even trying to throw deep!"
"We have to throw deep at least once to intimidate the damn defenses!"
"I think teams mighta figured out our offsne!"
"I wish I could have Cutler's arm and Orton's brains..."
"Nice job, how many times now has he thrown a 3 yard pass to Bmarsh on 3rd and 7??"
If they had Cutler they'd be a fucking title contender. Oh, well. They're going the playoffs and we're not. KLD:SFj;aka;lk
They've gotten their asses thoroughly handed to them the last two weeks, last week by a Baltimore team that just got completely shut down by the Bengals. The Chargers are only a game back and they're hot right now. It's a tough AFC, and teams have figured out that if you rush Orton and take away all of those nice, cushy underneath routes and prevent his receivers from getting free YAC he can't really do much. Are they still better than the Bears right now? Yes. Are they Definitely a playoff team? Not so sure. Am I that asshole that likes to ask and answer his own questions as a rhetorical method? Yes.
Just like last year with the Bears.
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
I've got some time scheduled for them in late-March/Early April depending on what Purdue does in the NCAAs. Otherwise, I'll just continue being halfway awake during their games and hoping for the best for your sake.
Quote from: SKO on November 10, 2009, 07:52:44 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 07:45:59 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 10, 2009, 07:24:33 AM
I watched the Broncos games and then went over to check some of the comments at Broncotalk. I didn't comment, because I'm not a troll and frankly I'm tired of Bronco fans popping over, but some of the comments about Orton were downright hysterical:
"Two games of Chicago Orton! BOOOO!"
"They aren't even trying to throw deep!"
"We have to throw deep at least once to intimidate the damn defenses!"
"I think teams mighta figured out our offsne!"
"I wish I could have Cutler's arm and Orton's brains..."
"Nice job, how many times now has he thrown a 3 yard pass to Bmarsh on 3rd and 7??"
If they had Cutler they'd be a fucking title contender. Oh, well. They're going the playoffs and we're not. KLD:SFj;aka;lk
They've gotten their asses thoroughly handed to them the last two weeks, last week by a Baltimore team that just got completely shut down by the Bengals. The Chargers are only a game back and they're hot right now. It's a tough AFC, and teams have figured out that if you rush Orton and take away all of those nice, cushy underneath routes and prevent his receivers from getting free YAC he can't really do much. Are they still better than the Bears right now? Yes. Are they Definitely a playoff team? Not so sure. Am I that asshole that likes to ask and answer his own questions as a rhetorical method? Yes.
Sure, you could be right. But I've just about tired of rooting for Denver to FAIL because of how the coach/fanbase treated my favorite football player. It's kind of, um, I don't know, ghey. Plus, if they do make the playoffs and make a run, it'll be just another speedbagging of the junk to apply ice too. When all I should be doing is reading. About stuff.
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
I love that team.
Quote from: Oleg on November 10, 2009, 08:20:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
I love that team.
Hey, are you going to the Eagles' game with me or not? I emailed you two days ago about that. If you're not going, tell me and I'll open the opportunity up to this insincere collective of morans.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 08:14:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
I've got some time scheduled for them in late-March/Early April depending on what Purdue does in the NCAAs. Otherwise, I'll just continue being halfway awake during their games and hoping for the best for your sake.
Why? I think I do better pissed off than I do happy.
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:22:46 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 08:14:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
I've got some time scheduled for them in late-March/Early April depending on what Purdue does in the NCAAs. Otherwise, I'll just continue being halfway awake during their games and hoping for the best for your sake.
Why? I think I do better pissed off than I do happy.
For your wife's sake then.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 08:23:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:22:46 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 08:14:11 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
I've got some time scheduled for them in late-March/Early April depending on what Purdue does in the NCAAs. Otherwise, I'll just continue being halfway awake during their games and hoping for the best for your sake.
Why? I think I do better pissed off than I do happy.
For your wife's sake then.
See above comment.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 08:18:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 10, 2009, 07:52:44 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 07:45:59 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 10, 2009, 07:24:33 AM
I watched the Broncos games and then went over to check some of the comments at Broncotalk. I didn't comment, because I'm not a troll and frankly I'm tired of Bronco fans popping over, but some of the comments about Orton were downright hysterical:
"Two games of Chicago Orton! BOOOO!"
"They aren't even trying to throw deep!"
"We have to throw deep at least once to intimidate the damn defenses!"
"I think teams mighta figured out our offsne!"
"I wish I could have Cutler's arm and Orton's brains..."
"Nice job, how many times now has he thrown a 3 yard pass to Bmarsh on 3rd and 7??"
If they had Cutler they'd be a fucking title contender. Oh, well. They're going the playoffs and we're not. KLD:SFj;aka;lk
They've gotten their asses thoroughly handed to them the last two weeks, last week by a Baltimore team that just got completely shut down by the Bengals. The Chargers are only a game back and they're hot right now. It's a tough AFC, and teams have figured out that if you rush Orton and take away all of those nice, cushy underneath routes and prevent his receivers from getting free YAC he can't really do much. Are they still better than the Bears right now? Yes. Are they Definitely a playoff team? Not so sure. Am I that asshole that likes to ask and answer his own questions as a rhetorical method? Yes.
Sure, you could be right. But I've just about tired of rooting for Denver to FAIL because of how the coach/fanbase treated my favorite football player. It's kind of, um, I don't know, ghey. Plus, if they do make the playoffs and make a run, it'll be just another speedbagging of the junk to apply ice too. When all I should be doing is reading. About stuff.
It's actually the opposite for me. I started out perfectly fine with Broncos fans and merely wished the trade to work out and Kyle and Jay to both to do well. Then they started commenting after every Cutler incompletion and my blood rose to boilin' level, so fuck them.
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
Becoming a hockey fan always seems like a good idea to me. The players seem to be pretty cool guys. I enjoy toothless smiles as much as the next guy. Who doesn't like to wear a polyester sweater with culottes and socks pulled up to their knees? Also, in the past I've been known to let John McDonough spoon feed me horseshit and I just can't get enough of it.
And then hockey season starts and I think, "This is the year" (Ron Santo-style) "that I'm going to become a hockey fan."
And then I realize that I could give a shit.
So for the 36th straight year, I'm just going to let the bandwagon cruise on past.
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
YOU CANNOT WIN WITH THEM
Quote from: Andy on November 10, 2009, 08:43:16 AM
So for the 36th straight year, I'm just going to let the bandwagon cruise on past.
Join in April. That's when the NHL gets really interesting. It's kind of like the NBA where the first six months are pointless, but it's unlike the NBA in that the last 3 months are fun and interesting.
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
The only thing missing here is a mention of playing Bear football.
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
The only thing missing here is a mention of playing Bear football.
You'll find numerous mentions of that here:
http://www.fireloviesmith.com/ (http://www.fireloviesmith.com/)
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 10, 2009, 08:21:54 AM
Quote from: Oleg on November 10, 2009, 08:20:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
I love that team.
Hey, are you going to the Eagles' game with me or not? I emailed you two days ago about that. If you're not going, tell me and I'll open the opportunity up to this insincere collective of morans.
Eagles next Sunday? Yeah, I'm in. Why wouldn't I be?
Sorry, I didn't see no e-mail.
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
The only thing missing here is a mention of playing Bear football.
You've find numerous mentions of that here:
http://www.fireloviesmith.com/ (http://www.fireloviesmith.com/)
Quotewe need BILL COWER, to make OUR bears respectable again. JOHN GRUDEN
I'm with this guy, I want either Bill Cower or John Gruden.
Quote from: Andy on November 10, 2009, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
Plenty of room on the Blackhawks' bandwagon.
Becoming a hockey fan always seems like a good idea to me. The players seem to be pretty cool guys. I enjoy toothless smiles as much as the next guy. Who doesn't like to wear a polyester sweater with culottes and socks pulled up to their knees? Also, in the past I've been known to let John McDonough spoon feed me horseshit and I just can't get enough of it.
And then hockey season starts and I think, "This is the year" (Ron Santo-style) "that I'm going to become a hockey fan."
And then I realize that I could give a shit.
So for the 36th straight year, I'm just going to let the bandwagon cruise on past.
Your loss.
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
The only thing missing here is a mention of playing Bear football.
You've find numerous mentions of that here:
http://www.fireloviesmith.com/ (http://www.fireloviesmith.com/)
Quotewe need BILL COWER, to make OUR bears respectable again. JOHN GRUDEN
I'm with this guy, I want either Bill Cower or John Gruden.
Too late on Gruden. He's going to Notre Dame.
I heard it on the radio. It must be true.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 10, 2009, 08:57:31 AM
Quote from: Andy on November 10, 2009, 08:43:16 AM
So for the 36th straight year, I'm just going to let the bandwagon cruise on past.
Join in April. That's when the NHL gets really interesting. It's kind of like the NBA where the first six months are pointless, but it's unlike the NBA in that the last 3 months are fun and interesting.
heh.
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
The only thing missing here is a mention of playing Bear football.
You've find numerous mentions of that here:
http://www.fireloviesmith.com/ (http://www.fireloviesmith.com/)
Quotewe need BILL COWER, to make OUR bears respectable again. JOHN GRUDEN
I'm with this guy, I want either Bill Cower or John Gruden.
Quote from: Jim (Naperville, IL)OUR bears are better than this, fire smith now so maybe we can salvage this season
Quote from: Joe (Medina, OH)I did not like the hire when they made it ( I wanted Russ Grimm )
I bet they could still get him.
Quote from: Brian, Daytona Fl.Its time to start talking with our wallets. I'm not buying another piece of Bears merchandise until Smith is gone. No jerseys, no tshirts, no hats, no keychains, no ANYTHING until that comatose, blind loser is out of Halas Hall.
No KEYCHAINS? But where will you keep your keys?
Quote from: Darrell (Chicago, IL)I've been saying the Bears should fire Lovie Smith since the Super Bowl season when he called that timeout against Seattle with a couple of seconds left in regulation. I do a sports radio show every Sunday and I have been ripping him for years now.
BC needs to give this guy a call.
Quote from: Robert (Homewood, IL)If the George Halas(papa bear) was to watch this, I hope Virginia or I aren't close to him.
GILF fever, catch it!
Quote from: Stu (Chicago, IL)Well, another disasterous defensive performance against the Cardinals today for our "vaulted" Bears coached by the "defensive guru" Lovie Smith.
Quote from: Vito (St. Charles, IL)I am tired of our coach looking like he did a bag of heroin on the side lines...if we are getting our butts kicked on the field I want to see fire and brimstone from the coach. If you pick up and pat an opposing player on the head you should be benched. I am embarrassed ! The demeanor of this team is terrible...no one fears us any more. We are left with the 100 dollar Jersey and the foam bear claw looking like asses.
Sit down, Vito.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 10, 2009, 10:00:59 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
The only thing missing here is a mention of playing Bear football.
You've find numerous mentions of that here:
http://www.fireloviesmith.com/ (http://www.fireloviesmith.com/)
Quotewe need BILL COWER, to make OUR bears respectable again. JOHN GRUDEN
I'm with this guy, I want either Bill Cower or John Gruden.
Quote from: Jim (Naperville, IL)OUR bears are better than this, fire smith now so maybe we can salvage this season
Quote from: Joe (Medina, OH)I did not like the hire when they made it ( I wanted Russ Grimm )
I bet they could still get him.
Quote from: Brian, Daytona Fl.Its time to start talking with our wallets. I'm not buying another piece of Bears merchandise until Smith is gone. No jerseys, no tshirts, no hats, no keychains, no ANYTHING until that comatose, blind loser is out of Halas Hall.
No KEYCHAINS? But where will you keep your keys?
Quote from: Darrell (Chicago, IL)I've been saying the Bears should fire Lovie Smith since the Super Bowl season when he called that timeout against Seattle with a couple of seconds left in regulation. I do a sports radio show every Sunday and I have been ripping him for years now.
BC needs to give this guy a call.
Quote from: Robert (Homewood, IL)If the George Halas(papa bear) was to watch this, I hope Virginia or I aren't close to him.
GILF fever, catch it!
Quote from: Stu (Chicago, IL)Well, another disasterous defensive performance against the Cardinals today for our "vaulted" Bears coached by the "defensive guru" Lovie Smith.
Quote from: Vito (St. Charles, IL)I am tired of our coach looking like he did a bag of heroin on the side lines...if we are getting our butts kicked on the field I want to see fire and brimstone from the coach. If you pick up and pat an opposing player on the head you should be benched. I am embarrassed ! The demeanor of this team is terrible...no one fears us any more. We are left with the 100 dollar Jersey and the foam bear claw looking like asses.
Sit down, Vito.
Thrill, doing the devil's work. I couldn't stand to even look at that site.
Quote from: Joe (Medina, OH)I did not like the hire when they made it ( I wanted Russ Grimm )
HE LOOKS LIKE DITKER DAT MEANS HE'S A WINNER!
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Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 10, 2009, 10:00:59 AM
Quote from: Darrell (Chicago, IL)I've been saying the Bears should fire Lovie Smith since the Super Bowl season when he called that timeout against Seattle with a couple of seconds left in regulation. I do a sports radio show every Sunday and I have been ripping him for years now.
BC needs to give this guy a call.
A podcast does not equal a radio show.
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Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 10, 2009, 10:00:59 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 10, 2009, 09:19:17 AM
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Quote from: CT III on November 10, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
6:34 AM - Caller to Score suggests that the Bears need to get rid of Lovie and go after Mike Singletary. Because Mike Singletary is a leader. He's the captain of the team. He gets the most out of his players.
And they've lost 4 straight.
The only thing missing here is a mention of playing Bear football.
You've find numerous mentions of that here:
http://www.fireloviesmith.com/ (http://www.fireloviesmith.com/)
Quotewe need BILL COWER, to make OUR bears respectable again. JOHN GRUDEN
I'm with this guy, I want either Bill Cower or John Gruden.
Quote from: Jim (Naperville, IL)OUR bears are better than this, fire smith now so maybe we can salvage this season
Quote from: Joe (Medina, OH)I did not like the hire when they made it ( I wanted Russ Grimm )
I bet they could still get him.
Quote from: Brian, Daytona Fl.Its time to start talking with our wallets. I'm not buying another piece of Bears merchandise until Smith is gone. No jerseys, no tshirts, no hats, no keychains, no ANYTHING until that comatose, blind loser is out of Halas Hall.
No KEYCHAINS? But where will you keep your keys?
Quote from: Darrell (Chicago, IL)I've been saying the Bears should fire Lovie Smith since the Super Bowl season when he called that timeout against Seattle with a couple of seconds left in regulation. I do a sports radio show every Sunday and I have been ripping him for years now.
BC needs to give this guy a call.
Quote from: Robert (Homewood, IL)If the George Halas(papa bear) was to watch this, I hope Virginia or I aren't close to him.
GILF fever, catch it!
Quote from: Stu (Chicago, IL)Well, another disasterous defensive performance against the Cardinals today for our "vaulted" Bears coached by the "defensive guru" Lovie Smith.
Quote from: Vito (St. Charles, IL)I am tired of our coach looking like he did a bag of heroin on the side lines...if we are getting our butts kicked on the field I want to see fire and brimstone from the coach. If you pick up and pat an opposing player on the head you should be benched. I am embarrassed ! The demeanor of this team is terrible...no one fears us any more. We are left with the 100 dollar Jersey and the foam bear claw looking like asses.
Sit down, Vito.
Thrill, doing the devil's work. I couldn't stand to even look at that site.
OK, after reading that, I'm buying the URL www.keeploviesmithascoachforlife.com
Of the things wrong with Lovie Smith, his demeanor is NOT one of them. The way he deals with the charades known as "press conferences" is NOT one of them.
Quote from: Brownie on November 10, 2009, 10:59:46 AM
OK, after reading that, I'm buying the URL www.keeploviesmithascoachforlife.com
Of the things wrong with Lovie Smith, his demeanor is NOT one of them. The way he deals with the charades known as "press conferences" is NOT one of them.
Now the way Jay Cutler deals with his press conferences on the other hand...
Quote from: Fork on November 10, 2009, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 10, 2009, 10:00:59 AM
Quote from: Darrell (Chicago, IL)I've been saying the Bears should fire Lovie Smith since the Super Bowl season when he called that timeout against Seattle with a couple of seconds left in regulation. I do a sports radio show every Sunday and I have been ripping him for years now.
BC needs to give this guy a call.
A podcast does not equal a radio show.
The man that wears the hockeenight thong disagrees.
In preparation for tonight's game, the latest trend in 49ers fanwear..
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Another Red Zone pick. This one is all on Jay. God fucking damn, I hate this team.
PAULCAST!
One thing Jay is not: Alex Smith. And thank Jebus for that.
This...this is something special.
Hester commits two penalties and slips on a route leading to a long interception return. I want to throw the fuck up. People all over the country have to be tuning this abortion of a football game out. Yet, here I am, powerless to do anything but get cleated on the tip by this garbage. Fuck me.
So I should be glad we don't get the NFL Network in central Illinois?
Ron Turner caused that 1st INT. Everybody in America knew the Bears were going play action on that 3rd and goal, Turner's goal line strategy is this:
1st and goal - Forte for minimal
2nd and goal - Forte for minimal
3rd and goal - PA! OMGZORS MEGATON!
Why can't these gutless fucking assholes stay onside?
The defense hasn't really given up anything all game yet they still look very mediocre. Two very bad teams.
Seriously, how can Matt Millen be employed as a commentator?
I don't even know if what he's saying is wrong. It's just that everytime he speaks all I can think is "the man who was the architect of the Detroit Lions teams of the aughts is trying to tell me something about football. Huh."
I got a handle of Johnny Walker Red tonight because it was on sale for 25 dollars. I'm so, so thankful for that scotch right now.
Quote from: SKO on November 12, 2009, 09:25:14 PM
I got a handle of Johnny Walker Red tonight because it was on sale for 25 dollars. I'm so, so thankful for that scotch right now.
I drank all my Chivas last night. I'm just thankful to have ginger ale to settle my stomach right now. God, I hope they pull this out.
Quote from: CT III on November 12, 2009, 09:23:35 PM
Seriously, how can Matt Millen be employed as a commentator?
I don't even know if what he's saying is wrong. It's just that everytime he speaks all I can think is "the man who was the architect of the Detroit Lions teams of the aughts is trying to tell me something about football. Huh."
Two shitty teams and two shitty announcers. It's Thursday Night Football!
Throwing down my romeo on when.
Quote from: Waco Kid on November 12, 2009, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 12, 2009, 09:23:35 PM
Seriously, how can Matt Millen be employed as a commentator?
I don't even know if what he's saying is wrong. It's just that everytime he speaks all I can think is "the man who was the architect of the Detroit Lions teams of the aughts is trying to tell me something about football. Huh."
Two shitty teams and two shitty announcers. It's Thursday Night Football!
It's the BIG TWALVE! Go play intramurals brother.
At least they aren't the worst team playing tonight.
South Florida is getting curbstomped by Rutgers over on ESPN.
How much do you have to suck as an NFL team when the other team's qb throws four picks and you only have 10 points?
Does Daniel Manning weigh like 20 pounds? He can't drag down a bong hit.
I spent the night cleaning dog shit and dog puke out of a shag rug. It was better than watching this game.
This team is a serious fucking disaster. Is there any other way to put it?
I thought Vanderbilt guys were supposed to be smart.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 12, 2009, 10:11:36 PM
This team is a serious fucking disaster. Is there any other way to put it?
This offensive line is the sorriest and most retarded group of gutless pieces of shit to ever fail to protect a Bears QB?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 12, 2009, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 12, 2009, 10:11:36 PM
This team is a serious fucking disaster. Is there any other way to put it?
This offensive line is the sorriest and most retarded group of gutless pieces of shit to ever fail to protect a Bears QB?
Yes?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 12, 2009, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 12, 2009, 10:11:36 PM
This team is a serious fucking disaster. Is there any other way to put it?
This offensive line is the sorriest and most retarded group of gutless pieces of shit to ever fail to protect a Bears QB?
Is there a reason to protect a guy aiming for the other team's secondary?
I don't want to live here anymore.
Guh.
Can the bears trade Cutler for a 1st round pick and sign Orton to a five year 50 million dollar contract?
Well that was appropriate.
Quote from: BBM on November 12, 2009, 10:25:48 PM
Can the bears trade Cutler for a 1st round pick and sign Orton to a five year 50 million dollar contract?
Or find some receivers who will finish routes and not fall down as the ball arrives. And get some linemen who don't suck.
Hester as a #1 receiver is a disaster, yes?
When do they get to play the Browns again?
hey guys i don't get nfl network but sounds like cutler didn't play too good, no?
Quote from: Eli on November 12, 2009, 10:29:40 PM
hey guys i don't get nfl network but sounds like cutler didn't play too good, no?
The "extra" coverage on NFL.com carried the last minute or so. I wish it hadn't.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on November 12, 2009, 10:28:55 PM
When do they get to play the Browns again?
Rams in Week 13?
I think watching this game gave me football cancer.
Quote from: CT III on November 12, 2009, 10:41:49 PM
I think watching this game gave me football cancer.
The only redeeming aspect of my evening was reading your post with an exaggerated Irish accent. Sorry to hear about your football.
Jake, I know your team gargles fistula, but stop throwing inexcusable interceptions and then pouting about it.
The best part about this game was halftime, when I walked down to the store and bought toilet paper.
Quote from: B-B-Bears on November 12, 2009, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: BBM on November 12, 2009, 10:25:48 PM
Can the bears trade Cutler for a 1st round pick and sign Orton to a five year 50 million dollar contract?
Or find some receivers who will finish routes and not fall down as the ball arrives. And get some linemen who don't suck.
Hester as a #1 receiver is a disaster, yes?
The Bears have a #1? I'm pretty sure you could violate the Geneva Conventions, have 10 prisoners at Guantanamo watch every Bears' offensive snap and not get a consensus on who the Bears' #1 WR was.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 12, 2009, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: B-B-Bears on November 12, 2009, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: BBM on November 12, 2009, 10:25:48 PM
Can the bears trade Cutler for a 1st round pick and sign Orton to a five year 50 million dollar contract?
Or find some receivers who will finish routes and not fall down as the ball arrives. And get some linemen who don't suck.
Hester as a #1 receiver is a disaster, yes?
The Bears have a #1? I'm pretty sure you could violate the Geneva Conventions, have 10 prisoners at Guantanamo watch every Bears' offensive snap and not get a consensus on who the Bears' #1 WR was.
I had no idea Gitmo prisoners were such football experts. My vote goes to Devin Aromashodu, just to hear announcers butcher his name like tonight.
I thought the Bears were supposed to help us forget about gutless fucking assholes.
A bunch of turds, the lot of them.
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How I should have spent my Thursday. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-13-niu-football-nov13,0,5924974.story)
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Suitable for framing indeed.
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Rules!
Peyton Manning threw 100 interceptions his first 5 years in the league. Utler has played about 3 full seasons now and has 54 picks under his belt.
I'm pretty sure this is completely meaningless except for the fact that the Bears need to hire Bill Polian or something.
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2009, 09:25:57 AM
Peyton Manning threw 100 interceptions his first 5 years in the league. Utler has played about 3 full seasons now and has 54 picks under his belt.
I'm pretty sure this is completely meaningless except for the fact that the Bears need to hire Bill Polian or something.
That would certainly help them in the drafting of great offensive talent and midgets who play defense. I like a good midget fight as much as the next guy. Why not?
I grant you that nobody should throw five picks in a game, but does anybody really think Cutler is a big problem? If these fucking mopes could block anybody, and patch together any semblance of a running game they could take advantage of having a fucking talented quarterback. But they don't. So they can't.
But what is with all of the meat heads crying for Cutler's head for? He's going to be here for at least five years, and for the first time since WWII the Bears don't need to worry about the quarterback, but can worry about everything else.
I hate Bears fans more than Cubs fans. (Must be all those fucking Sox fans who are in the mix.)
Quote from: Andy on November 13, 2009, 10:01:58 AM
I grant you that nobody should throw five picks in a game, but does anybody really think Cutler is a big problem?
Big? No. Something that needs more development and help in the form of supporting players than we thought?
Yes.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: Andy on November 13, 2009, 10:01:58 AM
I grant you that nobody should throw five picks in a game, but does anybody really think Cutler is a big problem?
Big? No. Something that needs more development and help in the form of supporting players than we thought?
Yes.
I sense the beginnings of a Chuck-hate that will drive everyone insane within a year.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: Andy on November 13, 2009, 10:01:58 AM
I grant you that nobody should throw five picks in a game, but does anybody really think Cutler is a big problem?
Big? No. Something that needs more development and help in the form of supporting players than we thought?
Yes.
So you thought Cutler would have/should have been able to make this team a Super Bowl competitor with the current supporting cast?
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2009, 11:07:09 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: Andy on November 13, 2009, 10:01:58 AM
I grant you that nobody should throw five picks in a game, but does anybody really think Cutler is a big problem?
Big? No. Something that needs more development and help in the form of supporting players than we thought?
Yes.
So you thought Cutler would have/should have been able to make this team a Super Bowl competitor with the current supporting cast?
Yes. That's the leap I was expecting. I thought this team would go 20-0 (they'd win the Pro Bowl, too).
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2009, 11:17:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2009, 11:07:09 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: Andy on November 13, 2009, 10:01:58 AM
I grant you that nobody should throw five picks in a game, but does anybody really think Cutler is a big problem?
Big? No. Something that needs more development and help in the form of supporting players than we thought?
Yes.
So you thought Cutler would have/should have been able to make this team a Super Bowl competitor with the current supporting cast?
Yes. That's the leap I was expecting. I thought this team would go 20-0 (they'd win the Pro Bowl, too).
24-0. you forgot the preseason schedule.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2009, 11:17:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 13, 2009, 11:07:09 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 13, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: Andy on November 13, 2009, 10:01:58 AM
I grant you that nobody should throw five picks in a game, but does anybody really think Cutler is a big problem?
Big? No. Something that needs more development and help in the form of supporting players than we thought?
Yes.
So you thought Cutler would have/should have been able to make this team a Super Bowl competitor with the current supporting cast?
Yes. That's the leap I was expecting. I thought this team would go 20-0 (they'd win the Pro Bowl, too).
I had them losing the Pro Bowl to go 23-1.
The Bears are terrible because they have a terrible offensive line.
Like a bullpen, that's the kind of thing a good general manager can improve significantly in an offseason. I said "good" general manager, so expect Jay to be chucking and ducking next year, too.
That was by far the worst NFL game I think I've ever had the displeasure of watching. Absolutely nothing going on but an abortion of attempted football. People can cry/bitch/whine/moan/complain about Cutler's performance, which was not good but he's not the reason we lost or that this season's a complete waste of our time. This is easily the worst excuse for an offensive line the Bears have trotted out that I can remember in 32 yrs as a fan. They can't run block to save their life and their pass-blocking is iffy at best. Last night the pass-blocking was horrific most of the time, Cutler was running around like a chicken with his head cut off. One play it took a guy 1 fucking second to get in Cutler's face. Good game o-line at even trying to help. Sketchy play-calling from genious Turner's killed us most of the season as well. Lovie needs to go and take his useless "Old boys club crew" the fuck outta town pronto, and Lovie's calling a defense like most of the time he hasn't a clue. Halftime adjustments? What fucking halftime adjustments has this useless bunch of twats shown most of this yr.
I gave up on this team having any shot after last week's debacle. I came into this game just wanting to see overall improvement and Cutler. That failed misserably last night, so hopefully better in coming games. I doubt it, but am the typical eternal optimist being a stupidfuck Scrubbies fan. Guess it's all about blowing our wad on more shitty offensive linemen in free agency...GUH!!!
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on November 13, 2009, 04:14:41 PM
That was by far the worst NFL game I think I've ever had the displeasure of watching. Absolutely nothing going on but an abortion of attempted football. People can cry/bitch/whine/moan/complain about Cutler's performance, which was not good but he's not the reason we lost or that this season's a complete waste of our time. This is easily the worst excuse for an offensive line the Bears have trotted out that I can remember in 32 yrs as a fan. They can't run block to save their life and their pass-blocking is iffy at best. Last night the pass-blocking was horrific most of the time, Cutler was running around like a chicken with his head cut off. One play it took a guy 1 fucking second to get in Cutler's face. Good game o-line at even trying to help. Sketchy play-calling from genious Turner's killed us most of the season as well. Lovie needs to go and take his useless "Old boys club crew" the fuck outta town pronto, and Lovie's calling a defense like most of the time he hasn't a clue. Halftime adjustments? What fucking halftime adjustments has this useless bunch of twats shown most of this yr.
I gave up on this team having any shot after last week's debacle. I came into this game just wanting to see overall improvement and Cutler. That failed misserably last night, so hopefully better in coming games. I doubt it, but am the typical eternal optimist being a stupidfuck Scrubbies fan. Guess it's all about blowing our wad on more shitty offensive linemen in free agency...GUH!!!
wat
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on November 13, 2009, 04:14:41 PM
That was by far the worst NFL game I think I've ever had the displeasure of watching. Absolutely nothing going on but an abortion of attempted football. People can cry/bitch/whine/moan/complain about Cutler's performance, which was not good but he's not the reason we lost or that this season's a complete waste of our time. This is easily the worst excuse for an offensive line the Bears have trotted out that I can remember in 32 yrs as a fan. They can't run block to save their life and their pass-blocking is iffy at best. Last night the pass-blocking was horrific most of the time, Cutler was running around like a chicken with his head cut off. One play it took a guy 1 fucking second to get in Cutler's face. Good game o-line at even trying to help. Sketchy play-calling from genious Turner's killed us most of the season as well. Lovie needs to go and take his useless "Old boys club crew" the fuck outta town pronto, and Lovie's calling a defense like most of the time he hasn't a clue. Halftime adjustments? What fucking halftime adjustments has this useless bunch of twats shown most of this yr.
I gave up on this team having any shot after last week's debacle. I came into this game just wanting to see overall improvement and Cutler. That failed misserably last night, so hopefully better in coming games. I doubt it, but am the typical eternal optimist being a stupidfuck Scrubbies fan. Guess it's all about blowing our wad on more shitty offensive linemen in free agency...GUH!!!
wtf is dat French?
I never played the game. I am not a student of the game. Therefore, I too, am entitled to express an opinion. The 49er defense, although recording no sacks, was able to cause sufficient disruption to the Bear passing offense with a minimal defensive line so as to permit additional players in pass coverage. Either that or they were able to sneak 2 or 3 extra guys off the bench into the secondary. At the same time, on the few run plays called by the Bears the same front four and a couple of linebackers were able to stop the team that gets off the bus running with 40 yards of rushing. How is that possible? I don't know. On the other hand, what is left of the Bear defense played an outstanding game, especially in light of the handicap of five turnovers by the offense. I was most impressed by the ten penalties assessed against the Bears. They clearly outshone the 49ers in that aspect of the game.
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 04:34:52 PM
I never played the game. I am not a student of the game. Therefore, I too, am entitled to express an opinion. The 49er defense, although recording no sacks, was able to cause sufficient disruption to the Bear passing offense with a minimal defensive line so as to permit additional players in pass coverage. Either that or they were able to sneak 2 or 3 extra guys off the bench into the secondary. At the same time, on the few run plays called by the Bears the same front four and a couple of linebackers were able to stop the team that gets off the bus running with 40 yards of rushing. How is that possible? I don't know. On the other hand, what is left of the Bear defense played an outstanding game, especially in light of the handicap of five turnovers by the offense. I was most impressed by the ten penalties assessed against the Bears. They clearly outshone the 49ers in that aspect of the game.
THI
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
Fantastic
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
Because he probably would have missed, amiright?
Quote from: PenFoe on November 13, 2009, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
Because he probably would have missed, amiright?
It wouldn't have been intercepted by someone's face on the other team?
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 13, 2009, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 13, 2009, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
Because he probably would have missed, amiright?
It wouldn't have been intercepted by someone's face on the other team?
Probably someone on his team's face or his face.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 13, 2009, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 13, 2009, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
Because he probably would have missed, amiright?
It wouldn't have been intercepted by someone's face on the other team?
Probably someone on his team's face or his face.
Whatever happened, it was Ron Turner's fault for not putting the faces in the right place for them to be punched.
I sure am glad ESPN deemed to grant us morans the great website ESPNChicago.com.
QuoteFran Tarkenton admits he hasn't seen much of Jay Cutler, but he saw enough Thursday night to render an opinion on the embattled Chicago Bears quarterback.
IT ALL JAYZ FALT!!!! (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4652043)
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 13, 2009, 07:57:54 PM
I sure am glad ESPN deemed to grant us morans the great website ESPNChicago.com.
QuoteFran Tarkenton admits he hasn't seen much of Jay Cutler, but he saw enough Thursday night to render an opinion on the embattled Chicago Bears quarterback.
IT ALL JAYZ FALT!!!! (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4652043)
Hova?
QuoteTarkenton, who led the Vikings to three Super Bowls in the 1970s, disputed the notion that Cutler's mechanics needed work. It's a lot simpler than that, he said.
"Great quarterbacks, good quarterbacks, make plays," Tarkenton said on "The Waddle and Silvy Show." "Mechanics is overwrought. Whether they're strong-armed, weak-armed, throw sidearm, throw overhead, they're fast, they're quick, I don't care. I just want someone to make plays. Peyton Manning doesn't look beautiful back there.
Are you kidding me? Peyton Manning? The guy with Textbook mechanics? The guy who has supplanted Dan Marino and Joe Montana as the very Definition of a pocket passer? Yeah, he's just back there winging it. Cutler's mechanics (i.e. his throwing motion and follow through) are fine when he sets his feet. I can't think of one bad pass he's thrown this year when he's set his feet. Too bad he never has time to do that.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 13, 2009, 09:06:03 PM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 13, 2009, 07:57:54 PM
I sure am glad ESPN deemed to grant us morans the great website ESPNChicago.com.
QuoteFran Tarkenton admits he hasn't seen much of Jay Cutler, but he saw enough Thursday night to render an opinion on the embattled Chicago Bears quarterback.
IT ALL JAYZ FALT!!!! (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4652043)
Hova?
Yeah, other than The Gray Album, that dude's overrated as fuck.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2009, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 13, 2009, 09:06:03 PM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 13, 2009, 07:57:54 PM
I sure am glad ESPN deemed to grant us morans the great website ESPNChicago.com.
QuoteFran Tarkenton admits he hasn't seen much of Jay Cutler, but he saw enough Thursday night to render an opinion on the embattled Chicago Bears quarterback.
IT ALL JAYZ FALT!!!! (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4652043)
Hova?
Yeah, other than The Gray Album, that dude's overrated as fuck.
Intrepid Reader: BBMWhat?
Quote from: BBM on November 14, 2009, 12:02:01 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 13, 2009, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 13, 2009, 09:06:03 PM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 13, 2009, 07:57:54 PM
I sure am glad ESPN deemed to grant us morans the great website ESPNChicago.com.
QuoteFran Tarkenton admits he hasn't seen much of Jay Cutler, but he saw enough Thursday night to render an opinion on the embattled Chicago Bears quarterback.
IT ALL JAYZ FALT!!!! (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4652043)
Hova?
Yeah, other than The Gray Album, that dude's overrated as fuck.
Intrepid Reader: BBM
What?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3VVykEt37c
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
If this is a serious question, the dude Harris punched was wearing a helmet so it wasn't actually in his face.
Quote from: Pre on November 14, 2009, 10:37:44 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
If this is a serious question, the dude Harris punched was wearing a helmet so it wasn't actually in his face.
He sure did act like Harris' big mitt got through his facemask
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
The disparity is a total joke--but it's also patently offensive that anyone would be fined $20,000 for what they said. There's no way an NFL official's psyche or authority is worth that much money. There's no way their collective authority is worth that much.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 14, 2009, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
The disparity is a total joke--but it's also patently offensive that anyone would be fined $20,000 for what they said. There's no way an NFL official's psyche or authority is worth that much money. There's no way their collective authority is worth that much.
I'm convinced that one of these days you're going to post something that makes my eyes roll completely around in my head.
Quote from: CT III on November 15, 2009, 09:06:55 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 14, 2009, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 13, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
As long as I am on the subject of how little I understand the game, I see that Tommie Harris gets fined $7,500 for punching someone in the face. Cutler gets fined $20,000 for verbally abusing someone. Why didn't Cutler just punch the official in the face? It would have been much cheaper, and far more satisfying.
The disparity is a total joke--but it's also patently offensive that anyone would be fined $20,000 for what they said. There's no way an NFL official's psyche or authority is worth that much money. There's no way their collective authority is worth that much.
I'm convinced that one of these days you're going to post something that makes my eyes roll completely around in my head.
That'd be a pretty neat trick--you could win a talent show or join the circus or something with that.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 09:38:53 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Maybe if the Bears were a high school team...
QuotePulaski hasn't punted since 2007 (when it did so as a gesture of sportsmanship in a lopsided game), and here's why: "The average punt in high school nets you 30 yards, but we convert around half our fourth downs, so it doesn't make sense to give up the ball..."
And in that case, Gould would be out, too.
/internet buzzkill
Bill Belichick believes in the football statfaggotry (http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/16/defending-belichicks-fourth-down-decision/?hp)
Quote from: flannj on November 16, 2009, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 09:38:53 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Maybe if the Bears were a high school team...
QuotePulaski hasn't punted since 2007 (when it did so as a gesture of sportsmanship in a lopsided game), and here's why: "The average punt in high school nets you 30 yards, but we convert around half our fourth downs, so it doesn't make sense to give up the ball..."
And in that case, Gould would be out, too.
/internet buzzkill
Bill Belichick believes in the football statfaggotry (http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/16/defending-belichicks-fourth-down-decision/?hp)
I was pretty shocked at the time but I'm starting to realize that Belichick's gamble wasn't as risky as it seemed. I truly believe the Colts could and would have scored a TD from any starting position at that point. I am still surprised at how brazenly the Pats burned up their timeouts with such a slight lead, however. I bet you that's their greater regret this morning. If they had only left themselves more time, this could have played out completely differently. What a game, though.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 16, 2009, 08:23:35 AM
Quote from: flannj on November 16, 2009, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on September 29, 2009, 09:38:53 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
Statfaggotry says Brad Maynard should be out of a job. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html)
Maybe if the Bears were a high school team...
QuotePulaski hasn't punted since 2007 (when it did so as a gesture of sportsmanship in a lopsided game), and here's why: "The average punt in high school nets you 30 yards, but we convert around half our fourth downs, so it doesn't make sense to give up the ball..."
And in that case, Gould would be out, too.
/internet buzzkill
Bill Belichick believes in the football statfaggotry (http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/16/defending-belichicks-fourth-down-decision/?hp)
I was pretty shocked at the time but I'm starting to realize that Belichick's gamble wasn't as risky as it seemed. I truly believe the Colts could and would have scored a TD from any starting position at that point. I am still surprised at how brazenly the Pats burned up their timeouts with such a slight lead, however. I bet you that's their greater regret this morning. If they had only left themselves more time, this could have played out completely differently. What a game, though.
That. Hell of a game indeed. I want Reggie Wayne on the Bears. And Randy Moss. And the Patriots interior line. And Freeney and Mathis. And Jerod Mayo. And Antoine Bethea. Any way we could get that done?
Even with all that Lovie and his dunderheads would find a way to fuck it up.
"If they had only left themselves more time, this could have played out completely differently."
Apex... Do you know how many times I have said that about something that happened in MY life?
Apparently this is not a joke...
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/11/grossmans-dad-rips-bears-history-of-qb-failure.html
QuoteRex Grossman's father came out firing today when asked to assess the Bears' ongoing quarterback woes with Jay Cutler and draw a comparison to the checkered Chicago career of his son.
Dan Grossman, an ophthalmologist who practices in Bloomington, Ind., berated the Bears for their long history of futility at the quarterback position.
"What's amazing to me is, here we go again with Jay Cutler," Grossman said. "He came in and he was going to be the franchise quarterback and lead the Bears. I heard some people say they were going to the Super Bowl this year. There was a lot of Cutler-mania going on in the preseason and all that. And here we are, back in the situation where ... because the team is not really built around a passing game, he has struggled. I don't really blame it on Jay Cutler."
Cutler has thrown 17 interceptions in the Bears' first nine games, including five last Thursday night in San Francisco. Rex Grossman is now a backup quarterback with the Houston Texans.
"Obviously, the last 20-something quarterbacks that have played in Chicago have not all been complete failures as quarterbacks," Dan Grossman said. "They obviously played somewhere before Chicago in order to be on that team. And several of them played respectably well after leaving that team. To me, there's an inherent organizational problem with the quarterback position."
Grossman believes the root of the problem is the Bears' traditional reliance on the running game.
"I believe that the NFL is a passing league,'' he said. "It has been for the last 20 years. Chicago continues to use the phrase, at least Lovie Smith continues to use the phrase, 'We get off the bus running.' I think they need to abandon that concept.
"Running is obviously a very important part of the offense. But the best teams in this league are prolific passing teams. And they have been for years. You can't name me a really great team in the last 10-20 years that hasn't had a passing component that was a very important part of it. And for a team to be effective at passing, you have to build your offense around your quarterback. You have to commit to the quarterback: 'You're our guy.' And then you have to build the offense around the quarterback. Not the other way around. You don't bring your quarterback in and say: 'We're going to get off the bus running. But on third-and-10, you've got to come through for us now!'
"The successful teams have brought in a quarterback, have surrounded him with excellent linemen, receivers and running backs. Once that quarterback becomes quite confident and comfortable with the system -- depending on their skill level -- they can flourish."
A quarterback, plus excellent linemen, receivers and running backs equals football success, depending on the QB's skill level.
Also: defense wins championships and you can never have enough touchdowns.
QuoteFor more on this story, see Tuesday's Chicago Tribune.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 16, 2009, 06:46:33 PM
Apparently this is not a joke...
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/11/grossmans-dad-rips-bears-history-of-qb-failure.html
QuoteRex Grossman's father came out firing today when asked to assess the Bears' ongoing quarterback woes with Jay Cutler and draw a comparison to the checkered Chicago career of his son.
Dan Grossman, an ophthalmologist who practices in Bloomington, Ind., berated the Bears for their long history of futility at the quarterback position.
"What's amazing to me is, here we go again with Jay Cutler," Grossman said. "He came in and he was going to be the franchise quarterback and lead the Bears. I heard some people say they were going to the Super Bowl this year. There was a lot of Cutler-mania going on in the preseason and all that. And here we are, back in the situation where ... because the team is not really built around a passing game, he has struggled. I don't really blame it on Jay Cutler."
Cutler has thrown 17 interceptions in the Bears' first nine games, including five last Thursday night in San Francisco. Rex Grossman is now a backup quarterback with the Houston Texans.
"Obviously, the last 20-something quarterbacks that have played in Chicago have not all been complete failures as quarterbacks," Dan Grossman said. "They obviously played somewhere before Chicago in order to be on that team. And several of them played respectably well after leaving that team. To me, there's an inherent organizational problem with the quarterback position."
Grossman believes the root of the problem is the Bears' traditional reliance on the running game.
"I believe that the NFL is a passing league,'' he said. "It has been for the last 20 years. Chicago continues to use the phrase, at least Lovie Smith continues to use the phrase, 'We get off the bus running.' I think they need to abandon that concept.
"Running is obviously a very important part of the offense. But the best teams in this league are prolific passing teams. And they have been for years. You can't name me a really great team in the last 10-20 years that hasn't had a passing component that was a very important part of it. And for a team to be effective at passing, you have to build your offense around your quarterback. You have to commit to the quarterback: 'You're our guy.' And then you have to build the offense around the quarterback. Not the other way around. You don't bring your quarterback in and say: 'We're going to get off the bus running. But on third-and-10, you've got to come through for us now!'
"The successful teams have brought in a quarterback, have surrounded him with excellent linemen, receivers and running backs. Once that quarterback becomes quite confident and comfortable with the system -- depending on their skill level -- they can flourish."
A quarterback, plus excellent linemen, receivers and running backs equals football success, depending on the QB's skill level.
Also: defense wins championships and you can never have enough touchdowns.
QuoteFor more on this story, see Tuesday's Chicago Tribune.
HIRE DANNY GROSSMAN!!!!
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 16, 2009, 06:46:33 PM
"Obviously, the last 20-something quarterbacks that have played in Chicago have not all been complete failures as quarterbacks," Dan Grossman said. "They obviously played somewhere before Chicago in order to be on that team. And several of them played respectably well after leaving that team. To me, there's an inherent organizational problem with the quarterback position."
Who is he talking about?
Quote from: Eli on November 16, 2009, 07:12:27 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 16, 2009, 06:46:33 PM
"Obviously, the last 20-something quarterbacks that have played in Chicago have not all been complete failures as quarterbacks," Dan Grossman said. "They obviously played somewhere before Chicago in order to be on that team. And several of them played respectably well after leaving that team. To me, there's an inherent organizational problem with the quarterback position."
Who is he talking about?
KYLE ORTON, ESTOOPID!....and...umm...Jim Harbaugh? Those are the only one's I can think of.
Quote from: Eli on November 16, 2009, 07:12:27 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 16, 2009, 06:46:33 PM
"Obviously, the last 20-something quarterbacks that have played in Chicago have not all been complete failures as quarterbacks," Dan Grossman said. "They obviously played somewhere before Chicago in order to be on that team. And several of them played respectably well after leaving that team. To me, there's an inherent organizational problem with the quarterback position."
Who is he talking about?
McMahon had good games with San Diego and won a Super Bowl with Green Bay, if I recall. Erik Kramer had a few good games before he got here. Mike Tomczak actually had a career of 16 years, and he got to fuck Julianne McCullough.
That last bit counts as a great deal of success tome. It also shows how low standards some women have.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 16, 2009, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: Eli on November 16, 2009, 07:12:27 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 16, 2009, 06:46:33 PM
"Obviously, the last 20-something quarterbacks that have played in Chicago have not all been complete failures as quarterbacks," Dan Grossman said. "They obviously played somewhere before Chicago in order to be on that team. And several of them played respectably well after leaving that team. To me, there's an inherent organizational problem with the quarterback position."
Who is he talking about?
McMahon had good games with San Diego and won a Super Bowl with Green Bay, if I recall. Erik Kramer had a few good games before he got here. Mike Tomczak actually had a career of 16 years, and he got to fuck Julianne McCullough.
That last bit counts as a great deal of success tome. It also shows how low standards some women have.
I just googled that name and it's either not a real person or it's your neighbor.
Quote from: Slack-E on November 16, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 16, 2009, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: Eli on November 16, 2009, 07:12:27 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 16, 2009, 06:46:33 PM
"Obviously, the last 20-something quarterbacks that have played in Chicago have not all been complete failures as quarterbacks," Dan Grossman said. "They obviously played somewhere before Chicago in order to be on that team. And several of them played respectably well after leaving that team. To me, there's an inherent organizational problem with the quarterback position."
Who is he talking about?
McMahon had good games with San Diego and won a Super Bowl with Green Bay, if I recall. Erik Kramer had a few good games before he got here. Mike Tomczak actually had a career of 16 years, and he got to fuck Julianne McCullough.
That last bit counts as a great deal of success tome. It also shows how low standards some women have.
I just googled that name and it's either not a real person or it's your neighbor.
Whoops. I meant Julie McCullough. She's on the right.
(http://www.colossuscollectibles.com/mags/insports/insp9003.jpg)
So disappointed Chuck. How did you not immediately find the Playboy cover of Julie to post? Or at least make a bad reference to her FINE acting skills as the babysitter on Growing Pains, lol.
Inside Sports brings back some fine memories.
I guess they got sick of the Hitler video spoof. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2-yFGe3AX0&feature=player_embedded#)
This might be the first semi-reasonable analysis of the Cutler-Orton trade I've seen. There is a decided lack of post-game press conference behavior analysis in the article, however.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12536046/cutler-orton-living-up-and-down-to-expectations (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12536046/cutler-orton-living-up-and-down-to-expectations)
QuoteRight now, I would take the Bears in this trade.
That takes the Bears up to 5-5, right?
One of my favorite moments of a Bill Simmons podcast was one where he was ripping Charley Casserly for being a know-nothing dope who acts like an expert on TV. Then, he talked about how the Texans made the kind of move that dopes like Casserly would never make when they took Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush. He had no idea that the guy who made that decision, the guy he was praising, was the guy he had just ripped one sentence before.
He should write a 700 page book about that.
Quote from: Andy on November 18, 2009, 04:11:36 PM
One of my favorite moments of a Bill Simmons podcast was one where he was ripping Charley Casserly for being a know-nothing dope who acts like an expert on TV. Then, he talked about how the Texans made the kind of move that dopes like Casserly would never make when they took Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush. He had no idea that the guy who made that decision, the guy he was praising, was the guy he had just ripped one sentence before.
He should write a 700 page book about that.
Come on Andy, who would be dumb enough to buy a 700 page book written by Bill Simmons?
Quote from: CT III on November 18, 2009, 06:20:32 PM
Quote from: Andy on November 18, 2009, 04:11:36 PM
One of my favorite moments of a Bill Simmons podcast was one where he was ripping Charley Casserly for being a know-nothing dope who acts like an expert on TV. Then, he talked about how the Texans made the kind of move that dopes like Casserly would never make when they took Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush. He had no idea that the guy who made that decision, the guy he was praising, was the guy he had just ripped one sentence before.
He should write a 700 page book about that.
Come on Andy, who would be dumb enough to buy read a 700 page book word article written by Bill Simmons?
Not I'd.
Quote from: Andy on November 18, 2009, 04:11:36 PM
One of my favorite moments of a Bill Simmons podcast was one where he was ripping Charley Casserly for being a know-nothing dope who acts like an expert on TV. Then, he talked about how the Texans made the kind of move that dopes like Casserly would never make when they took Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush. He had no idea that the guy who made that decision, the guy he was praising, was the guy he had just ripped one sentence before.
He should write a 700 page book about that.
Why would you listen to a Bill Simmons podcast? Yeah, I still read his stuff, but
listen to him?
Dork.
Aaaaannnd...ya burnt!
Rosenblog confirms what we already knew: he is a douchebag (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rosenblog/2009/11/eagles-are-just-what-jay-mcnown-needs-for-a-good-night.html). Jay McNown? Really? That makes me look even more forward to when the Bears get him some help on offense so he can shove it down these idiots' throats.
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 19, 2009, 12:20:19 AM
Rosenblog confirms what we already knew: he is a douchebag (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rosenblog/2009/11/eagles-are-just-what-jay-mcnown-needs-for-a-good-night.html). Jay McNown? Really? That makes me look even more forward to when the Bears get him some help on offense so he can shove it down these idiots' throats.
Does anyone really care about the Tribune's poker reporter thoughts on Cutler? What's Ask Amy's Opinion on the mideast peace process?
Quote from: BBM on November 19, 2009, 12:25:37 AM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 19, 2009, 12:20:19 AM
Rosenblog confirms what we already knew: he is a douchebag (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rosenblog/2009/11/eagles-are-just-what-jay-mcnown-needs-for-a-good-night.html). Jay McNown? Really? That makes me look even more forward to when the Bears get him some help on offense so he can shove it down these idiots' throats.
Does anyone really care about the Tribune's poker reporter thoughts on Cutler? What's Ask Amy's Opinion on the mideast peace process?
Not really, I'm just stuck at home sick and nothing heals like ANGER.
Fuck the Iggles.
That is all.
Quote from: Fork on November 19, 2009, 09:22:05 AM
Fuck the Iggles.
That is all.
Thanks for your support this week.
Quote from: Fork on November 19, 2009, 09:22:05 AM
Fuck the Iggles.
That is all.
That's how people in Pissburgh say it, you know.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 19, 2009, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 19, 2009, 09:22:05 AM
Fuck the Iggles.
That is all.
That's how people in Pissburgh say it, you know.
The people in Pissburgh can do whatever they want, up until God hits the flush handle.
Ortman not playing Sunday. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671704) I remember him getting an ankle injury last year and sucking after he came back. It seems to be his thing.
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 20, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
Ortman not playing Sunday. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671704) I remember him getting an ankle injury last year and sucking after he came back. It seems to be his thing.
This is his other ankle though. He says it won't affect him as much because he won't have to push off of it. Teams are on to the Broncos little jagoff short passing game though. I think it's DOOOOOOM either way. SKO was right. Denver's probably playing the same number of games as the Bears this year.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 20, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
Ortman not playing Sunday. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671704) I remember him getting an ankle injury last year and sucking after he came back. It seems to be his thing.
This is his other ankle though. He says it won't affect him as much because he won't have to push off of it. Teams are on to the Broncos little jagoff short passing game though. I think it's DOOOOOOM either way. SKO was right. Denver's probably playing the same number of games as the Bears this year.
Quote from: SKO on November 20, 2009, 08:36:43 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 20, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
Ortman not playing Sunday. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671704) I remember him getting an ankle injury last year and sucking after he came back. It seems to be his thing.
This is his other ankle though. He says it won't affect him as much because he won't have to push off of it. Teams are on to the Broncos little jagoff short passing game though. I think it's DOOOOOOM either way. SKO was right. Denver's probably playing the same number of games as the Bears this year.
That's why we pay you the big bucks, cap'm.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 20, 2009, 08:36:43 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 20, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
Ortman not playing Sunday. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671704) I remember him getting an ankle injury last year and sucking after he came back. It seems to be his thing.
This is his other ankle though. He says it won't affect him as much because he won't have to push off of it. Teams are on to the Broncos little jagoff short passing game though. I think it's DOOOOOOM either way. SKO was right. Denver's probably playing the same number of games as the Bears this year.
That's why we pay you the big bucks, cap'm.
FWIW, SKO also assured me at the start of the season that Denver would never notch more than 4 wins this year and that Juice Williams would light up the Big Ten.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 20, 2009, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 20, 2009, 08:36:43 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 20, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
Ortman not playing Sunday. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671704) I remember him getting an ankle injury last year and sucking after he came back. It seems to be his thing.
This is his other ankle though. He says it won't affect him as much because he won't have to push off of it. Teams are on to the Broncos little jagoff short passing game though. I think it's DOOOOOOM either way. SKO was right. Denver's probably playing the same number of games as the Bears this year.
That's why we pay you the big bucks, cap'm.
FWIW, SKO also assured me at the start of the season that Denver would never notch more than 4 wins this year and that Juice Williams would light up the Big Ten.
.....Damn you.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 20, 2009, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 20, 2009, 08:36:43 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 20, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
Ortman not playing Sunday. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671704) I remember him getting an ankle injury last year and sucking after he came back. It seems to be his thing.
This is his other ankle though. He says it won't affect him as much because he won't have to push off of it. Teams are on to the Broncos little jagoff short passing game though. I think it's DOOOOOOM either way. SKO was right. Denver's probably playing the same number of games as the Bears this year.
That's why we pay you the big bucks, cap'm.
FWIW, SKO also assured me at the start of the season that Denver would never notch more than 4 wins this year and that Juice Williams would light up the Big Ten.
Maybe he meant four in a row. Oh, wait...
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 20, 2009, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 20, 2009, 08:36:43 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 20, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: IrishYeti on November 20, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
Ortman not playing Sunday. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671704) I remember him getting an ankle injury last year and sucking after he came back. It seems to be his thing.
This is his other ankle though. He says it won't affect him as much because he won't have to push off of it. Teams are on to the Broncos little jagoff short passing game though. I think it's DOOOOOOM either way. SKO was right. Denver's probably playing the same number of games as the Bears this year.
That's why we pay you the big bucks, cap'm.
FWIW, SKO also assured me at the start of the season that Denver would never notch more than 4 wins this year and that Juice Williams would light up the Big Ten.
Maybe he meant four in a row. Oh, wait...
I meant 4 against the NFC East. And they didn't.
I'll start.
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Edit: for getting FACED
Khalil Bell Shploogefest.
Is Cutler aware that if no one is open and there is an open lane, quarterbacks can actually run with the ball past the line of scrimmage?
Quote from: fiveouts on November 22, 2009, 08:18:51 PM
Khalil Bell Shploogefest.
Longest run for the Bears since 1989.
Intrepid Reader: Joe Francis Buck
That was a disgusting act by Devin Hester.
Dang it, I was a few minutes too slow to get the first Buck-Hester joke on here.
Another wonderfully officiated NFL game. I didn't know that if you just ran into the middle of a pile you are automatically granted first downs.
Quote from: BC on November 22, 2009, 10:44:45 PM
I didn't know that if you just ran into the middle of a pile you are automatically granted first downs.
You're not good at this.
I also want to congratulate NBC for having such shitty camerawork that the Bears' coaching staff couldn't even challenge the terrible spot the officials had given to McCoy on that 3rd and 2 to begin with. It isn't like NBC had a game just last week in which a spot late in the contest essentially determined the outcome.
Oh, wait...
Quote from: BC on November 22, 2009, 11:02:45 PM
I also want to congratulate NBC for having such shitty camerawork that the Bears' coaching staff couldn't even challenge the terrible spot the officials had given to McCoy on that 3rd and 2 to begin with. It isn't like NBC had a game just last week in which a spot late in the contest essentially determined the outcome.
Oh, wait...
Yeah, if there's one thing to complain about with this game, it's....the officials. Not Cutler melting down into a gunshy suckbag. Not Gaines Adams being a worthless piece of foaces. Not Olin Kreutz, who is so godawful he can't even execute a proper chop block. Not the perpetual merry-go-round of tardbuckets playing safety.
Nope, it was the refs that blew this game for the Bears. Spot on, BC.
Quote from: R-V on November 22, 2009, 11:16:54 PM
Quote from: BC on November 22, 2009, 11:02:45 PM
I also want to congratulate NBC for having such shitty camerawork that the Bears' coaching staff couldn't even challenge the terrible spot the officials had given to McCoy on that 3rd and 2 to begin with. It isn't like NBC had a game just last week in which a spot late in the contest essentially determined the outcome.
Oh, wait...
Yeah, if there's one thing to complain about with this game, it's....the officials. Not Cutler melting down into a gunshy suckbag. Not Gaines Adams being a worthless piece of foaces. Not Olin Kreutz, who is so godawful he can't even execute a proper chop block. Not the perpetual merry-go-round of tardbuckets playing safety.
Nope, it was the refs that blew this game for the Bears. Spot on, BC.
You forgot NBC. It's their fault too. Shitty camerawork and such.
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 22, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
Quote from: R-V on November 22, 2009, 11:16:54 PM
Nope, it was the refs that blew this game for the Bears. Spot on, BC.
You forgot NBC. It's their fault too. Shitty camerawork and such.
I'm shocked he didn't blame it all on Tillman.
I feel like Chris Collinsworth is managing to actually get worse every week.
It's actually kind of impressive.
Quote from: Pre on November 22, 2009, 11:23:49 PM
I'm shocked he didn't blame it all on Tillman.
Tillman single-handedly kept the Bears in the game. I have been critical of his play in the past, but he played a great game tonight.
Quote from: Pre on November 22, 2009, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on November 22, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
Quote from: R-V on November 22, 2009, 11:16:54 PM
Nope, it was the refs that blew this game for the Bears. Spot on, BC.
You forgot NBC. It's their fault too. Shitty camerawork and such.
I'm shocked he didn't blame it all on Tillman.
I feel like Chris Collinsworth is managing to actually get worse every week.
It's actually kind of impressive.
That was nice of Cris and Al to loudly speculate over Donovan and Jay when most listeners were probably trying to hear what was being said.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 22, 2009, 10:35:49 PM
Intrepid Reader: Joe Francis Buck
That was a disgusting act by Devin Hester.
I thought that mooning a national audience was a nice touch.
Quote from: CBStew on November 23, 2009, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 22, 2009, 10:35:49 PM
Intrepid Reader: Joe Francis Buck
That was a disgusting act by Devin Hester.
I thought that mooning a national audience was a nice touch.
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/hestermoon.jpg)
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 23, 2009, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 23, 2009, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on November 22, 2009, 10:35:49 PM
Intrepid Reader: Joe Francis Buck
That was a disgusting act by Devin Hester.
I thought that mooning a national audience was a nice touch.
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/hestermoon.jpg)
Thrill having that as his screen saver is the least shocking thing I heard today.
DeSean Jackson spent two seasons playing for the University of California. He went pro after his junior year. When NBC ran videos of the players introducing themselves, Jackson said his alma mater was "Long Beach Poly". Long Beach Poly? What in the hell is that? Didn't anyone here in Berkeley tell him the name of his school? I guess he stood too close to Marshawn Lynch during the National Anthems.
Quote from: CBStew on November 24, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
DeSean Jackson spent two seasons playing for the University of California. He went pro after his junior year. When NBC ran videos of the players introducing themselves, Jackson said his alma mater was "Long Beach Poly". Long Beach Poly? What in the hell is that? Didn't anyone here in Berkeley tell him the name of his school? I guess he stood too close to Marshawn Lynch during the National Anthems.
It's become a bit hip over the past few years for guys to represent their high schools instead of their colleges.
Don't ask me why, but that's just a fairly new thing.
DeSean attended Long Beach Polytechnic High School.
I don't think was disrespect to Cal, but a shout out to his high school.
Quote from: PenFoe on November 24, 2009, 12:48:55 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 24, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
DeSean Jackson spent two seasons playing for the University of California. He went pro after his junior year. When NBC ran videos of the players introducing themselves, Jackson said his alma mater was "Long Beach Poly". Long Beach Poly? What in the hell is that? Didn't anyone here in Berkeley tell him the name of his school? I guess he stood too close to Marshawn Lynch during the National Anthems.
It's become a bit hip over the past few years for guys to represent their high schools instead of their colleges.
Don't ask me why, but that's just a fairly new thing.
DeSean attended Long Beach Polytechnic High School.
I don't think was disrespect to Cal, but a shout out to his high school.
Desean was good as a rookie. He's another example of the growing trend of guys playing ball at a high level their rookie year.
The bears never get these guys. I want a burrito.
Quote from: BH on November 24, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 24, 2009, 12:48:55 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 24, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
DeSean Jackson spent two seasons playing for the University of California. He went pro after his junior year. When NBC ran videos of the players introducing themselves, Jackson said his alma mater was "Long Beach Poly". Long Beach Poly? What in the hell is that? Didn't anyone here in Berkeley tell him the name of his school? I guess he stood too close to Marshawn Lynch during the National Anthems.
It's become a bit hip over the past few years for guys to represent their high schools instead of their colleges.
Don't ask me why, but that's just a fairly new thing.
DeSean attended Long Beach Polytechnic High School.
I don't think was disrespect to Cal, but a shout out to his high school.
Desean was good as a rookie. He's another example of the growing trend of guys playing ball at a high level their rookie year.
The bears never get these guys. I want a burrito.
I didn't laugh, but I smiled.
Quote from: BH on November 24, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 24, 2009, 12:48:55 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 24, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
DeSean Jackson spent two seasons playing for the University of California. He went pro after his junior year. When NBC ran videos of the players introducing themselves, Jackson said his alma mater was "Long Beach Poly". Long Beach Poly? What in the hell is that? Didn't anyone here in Berkeley tell him the name of his school? I guess he stood too close to Marshawn Lynch during the National Anthems.
It's become a bit hip over the past few years for guys to represent their high schools instead of their colleges.
Don't ask me why, but that's just a fairly new thing.
DeSean attended Long Beach Polytechnic High School.
I don't think was disrespect to Cal, but a shout out to his high school.
Desean was good as a rookie. He's another example of the growing trend of guys playing ball at a high level their rookie year.
The bears never get these guys. I want a burrito.
The model has changed.
Quote from: CBStew on November 24, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
DeSean Jackson spent two seasons playing for the University of California. He went pro after his junior year. When NBC ran videos of the players introducing themselves, Jackson said his alma mater was "Long Beach Poly". Long Beach Poly? What in the hell is that? Didn't anyone here in Berkeley tell him the name of his school? I guess he stood too close to Marshawn Lynch during the National Anthems.
Long Beach Poly is a high school in Long Beach, CA. Among its alumni are my fiancee, Snoop Dogg and Milton Bradley.
EDIT: And Cameron Diaz.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 24, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 24, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
DeSean Jackson spent two seasons playing for the University of California. He went pro after his junior year. When NBC ran videos of the players introducing themselves, Jackson said his alma mater was "Long Beach Poly". Long Beach Poly? What in the hell is that? Didn't anyone here in Berkeley tell him the name of his school? I guess he stood too close to Marshawn Lynch during the National Anthems.
Long Beach Poly is a high school in Long Beach, CA. Among its alumni are my fiancee, Snoop Dogg and Milton Bradley.
EDIT: And Cameron Diaz.
Snoop Dogg is your fiancee? Get outta town!
Quote from: BH on November 24, 2009, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 24, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 24, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
DeSean Jackson spent two seasons playing for the University of California. He went pro after his junior year. When NBC ran videos of the players introducing themselves, Jackson said his alma mater was "Long Beach Poly". Long Beach Poly? What in the hell is that? Didn't anyone here in Berkeley tell him the name of his school? I guess he stood too close to Marshawn Lynch during the National Anthems.
Long Beach Poly is a high school in Long Beach, CA. Among its alumni are my fiancee, Snoop Dogg and Milton Bradley.
EDIT: And Cameron Diaz.
Snoop Dogg is your fiancee? Get outta town!
I love his Doggystyle.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 24, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
my fiancee, Snoop Dogg and Milton Bradley.
EDIT: And Cameron Diaz.
For your sake I hope that list is in ascending order of crazy.
Quote from: Pre on November 24, 2009, 04:08:59 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 24, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
my fiancee, Snoop Dogg, Milton Bradley, my ex.
For your sake I hope that list is in ascending order of crazy.
It is now.
Hub Arkush via WSCR reporting that the Bears have expressed informal interest to John Gruden, Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 24, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Hub Arkush via WSCR reporting that the Bears have expressed informal interest to John Gruden, Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher.
I've expressed informal interest into having a three-way with Marisa Miller and IAN
Jeff Fisher, anybody?
Quote from: Brownie on November 24, 2009, 05:34:11 PM
Jeff Fisher, anybody?
My first choice. Sadly, the Bears have no draft picks left to trade for him.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 24, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Hub Arkush via WSCR reporting that the Bears have expressed informal interest to John Gruden, Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher.
No way they'd reach out in the middle of the season with Lovie still coaching and under contract. Not a chance. That's not Bear football.
Quote from: Brownie on November 24, 2009, 05:34:11 PM
Jeff Fisher, anybody?
This would be the best choice.
However, he's not going anywhere.
In case you haven't noticed, the Titans are (somewhat) back in the mix this year.
Quote from: PenFoe on November 24, 2009, 05:40:48 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 24, 2009, 05:34:11 PM
Jeff Fisher, anybody?
This would be the best choice.
However, he's not going anywhere.
In case you haven't noticed, the Titans are (somewhat) back in the mix this year.
Oh, I've noticed. I've also noticed that Bud Adams is batshit crazy and the Titans have a much more difficult stretch coming up. Shanahan would be a fine choice.
Quote from: Brownie on November 24, 2009, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 24, 2009, 05:40:48 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 24, 2009, 05:34:11 PM
Jeff Fisher, anybody?
This would be the best choice.
However, he's not going anywhere.
In case you haven't noticed, the Titans are (somewhat) back in the mix this year.
Oh, I've noticed. I've also noticed that Bud Adams is batshit crazy and the Titans have a much more difficult stretch coming up. Shanahan would be a fine choice.
I'd like to see Lovie Smith get one more year and Soldier's Field have no roof on it ever.
Quote from: PenFoe on November 24, 2009, 05:40:48 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 24, 2009, 05:34:11 PM
Jeff Fisher, anybody?
This would be the best choice.
However, he's not going anywhere.
In case you haven't noticed, the Titans are (somewhat) back in the mix this year.
4-6 with Millen putting money on them running the table? They're doomed for failure now.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 24, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Hub Arkush via WSCR reporting that the Bears have expressed informal interest to John Gruden, Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher.
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!, Yes, Okay.
I'm not sure where all of this Mike Shanahan love comes from, considering he's been a pretty mediocre coach over the last 7 years or so. Aside from that, he'd be coming with the uber-crappy Bob Slowik as D-Coordinator. I can't imagine Shanahan would come without a GM-type title, either, and Maurice Clarett can tell you just how good Shanahan was at evaluating talent.
Quote from: fiveouts on November 25, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
I'm not sure where all of this Mike Shanahan love comes from, considering he's been a pretty mediocre coach over the last 7 years or so. Aside from that, he'd be coming with the uber-crappy Bob Slowik as D-Coordinator. I can't imagine Shanahan would come without a GM-type title, either, and Maurice Clarett can tell you just how good Shanahan was at evaluating talent.
What about Terrell Davis? Or the fact that his zone blocking scheme has cranked out more 1,000 yard rushers than I care to count? Or the two Super Bowl Titles, or that his "mediocore" last 7 years included just one losing season, two 10 win seasons and a 13 win season? Or the fact that he averaged 10 wins a season during his time in Denver. I'll take that kind of mediocrity. I realize it's a step down from the consistent dominance I've seen from this franchise in my lifetime, but I'll risk it.
For links sake.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/11/report-bears-surveying-options-for-coach-gm-changes.html
Quote from: fiveouts on November 25, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
I'm not sure where all of this Mike Shanahan love comes from, considering he's been a pretty mediocre coach over the last 7 years or so. Aside from that, he'd be coming with the uber-crappy Bob Slowik as D-Coordinator. I can't imagine Shanahan would come without a GM-type title, either, and Maurice Clarett Olandis Gary - Mike Anderson - Ruben Droughns - Clinton Portis can tell you just how good Shanahan was at evaluating talent.
Damn near everyone that played for him was successful'd. And oh yeah, he drafted Cutler and Ryan Clady two of his last three years.
Quote from: SKO on November 25, 2009, 09:38:42 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 25, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
I'm not sure where all of this Mike Shanahan love comes from, considering he's been a pretty mediocre coach over the last 7 years or so. Aside from that, he'd be coming with the uber-crappy Bob Slowik as D-Coordinator. I can't imagine Shanahan would come without a GM-type title, either, and Maurice Clarett can tell you just how good Shanahan was at evaluating talent.
What about Terrell Davis? Or the fact that his zone blocking scheme has cranked out more 1,000 yard rushers than I care to count? Or the two Super Bowl Titles, or that his "mediocore" last 7 years included just one losing season, two 10 win seasons and a 13 win season? Or the fact that he averaged 10 wins a season during his time in Denver. I'll take that kind of mediocrity. I realize it's a step down from the consistent dominance I've seen from this franchise in my lifetime, but I'll risk it.
Didn't Alex Gibbs have a big hand in that?
Quote from: Slack-E on November 25, 2009, 09:59:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 25, 2009, 09:38:42 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on November 25, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
I'm not sure where all of this Mike Shanahan love comes from, considering he's been a pretty mediocre coach over the last 7 years or so. Aside from that, he'd be coming with the uber-crappy Bob Slowik as D-Coordinator. I can't imagine Shanahan would come without a GM-type title, either, and Maurice Clarett can tell you just how good Shanahan was at evaluating talent.
What about Terrell Davis? Or the fact that his zone blocking scheme has cranked out more 1,000 yard rushers than I care to count? Or the two Super Bowl Titles, or that his "mediocore" last 7 years included just one losing season, two 10 win seasons and a 13 win season? Or the fact that he averaged 10 wins a season during his time in Denver. I'll take that kind of mediocrity. I realize it's a step down from the consistent dominance I've seen from this franchise in my lifetime, but I'll risk it.
Didn't Alex Gibbs have a big hand in that?
He helped invent the system, yes, but it kept running smoothly long after he was gone. It's like how you can run the West Coast Offense even if your coach isn't Bill Walsh.
Unless it's Lovie Smith.
I fucking hate sports.
That rule about Hillenmeyer making the ball be out of bounds is fucking retarded. Idonije controlled the ball. I'm ANGRY
Can these Vikings touch the Saints at the Superdome? I say no. Enjoy your one year resurgence, Minnesota.
Why is the game taking so long?
END.
Fire everyone.
Hey, pitchers and catchers report in three months and Fidel Castro's kid is the answer at shortstop!
Only once before have I seen a sure Hall-of-Fame player enjoy a renaissance late in his career in which he put up statistics better than what he did in his heyday like Favre has since the guy in San Francisco about 8 years ago.
Quote from: Brownie on November 29, 2009, 06:42:46 PM
Only once before have I seen a sure Hall-of-Fame player enjoy a renaissance late in his career in which he put up statistics better than what he did in his heyday like Favre has since the guy in San Francisco about 8 years ago.
I so upset about the game that this kind of sentence doesn't faze me.
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on November 29, 2009, 06:57:16 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 29, 2009, 06:42:46 PM
Only once before have I seen a sure Hall-of-Fame player enjoy a renaissance late in his career in which he put up statistics better than what he did in his heyday like Favre has since the guy in San Francisco about 8 years ago.
I so upset about the game that this kind of sentence doesn't faze me.
I also upset. But I upset about a different game.
Does anybody really think Lovie Smith is going to be fired? Not going to happen now, or after the season. Ron Turner maybe, but I doubt that will even happen.
I loved listening to the Allen/Favre dick sucking all freakin game.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 24, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Hub Arkush via WSCR reporting that the Bears have expressed informal interest to John Gruden, Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher.
Listened to Arkush and Hampton prior to the game. First of all, I think Hamp may be borderline retarded.
Second, Arkush clarified this report. According to Hub, the Bears have specifically looked into Bill Cowher as a possible replacement, and nobody else.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on November 29, 2009, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on November 29, 2009, 06:57:16 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 29, 2009, 06:42:46 PM
Only once before have I seen a sure Hall-of-Fame player enjoy a renaissance late in his career in which he put up statistics better than what he did in his heyday like Favre has since the guy in San Francisco about 8 years ago.
I so upset about the game that this kind of sentence doesn't faze me.
I also upset. But I upset about a different game.
I angry.
Look at it this way. The Bears will be giving the Broncos a very high first round draft pick next spring.
Quote from: CBStew on November 29, 2009, 08:15:24 PM
Look at it this way. The Bears will be giving the Broncos a very high first round draft pick next spring.
Actually, I don't prefer to look at it that way either. Fuck this shit.
Teh Hossa is really good.
Quote from: CT III on November 29, 2009, 07:22:21 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 24, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Hub Arkush via WSCR reporting that the Bears have expressed informal interest to John Gruden, Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher.
Listened to Arkush and Hampton prior to the game. First of all, I think Hamp may be borderline retarded.
Second, Arkush clarified this report. According to Hub, the Bears have specifically looked into Bill Cowher as a possible replacement, and nobody else.
Cowher has said he's "very interested" in the Bears job. I'm willing to drive one of the dump trucks of money myself.
Also, Cowher opens up the possibility of Cowher Hours. Them's good times.
If Cowher gets hired by the Bears, Brenly's joke-writer wins and we all lose.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 29, 2009, 11:04:33 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 29, 2009, 07:22:21 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 24, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Hub Arkush via WSCR reporting that the Bears have expressed informal interest to John Gruden, Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher.
Listened to Arkush and Hampton prior to the game. First of all, I think Hamp may be borderline retarded.
Second, Arkush clarified this report. According to Hub, the Bears have specifically looked into Bill Cowher as a possible replacement, and nobody else.
Cowher has said he's "very interested" in the Bears job. I'm willing to drive one of the dump trucks of money myself.
Also, Cowher opens up the possibility of Cowher Hours. Them's good times.
I hear Frontbutt will be available to run the offense.
After watching the first half of the Vikings game and seeing how much this team has regressed, I don't see how Lovie and the rest of this staff keeps their jobs. Granted this team has plenty of holes in it, but they are poorly coached.
Quote from: EVILteddie on November 29, 2009, 07:04:31 PM
Does anybody really think Lovie Smith is going to be fired? Not going to happen now, or after the season. Ron Turner maybe, but I doubt that will even happen.
I loved listening to the Allen/Favre dick sucking all freakin game.
As much as it pains my anus to say it, those pudmongers deserve all the beejes being sent their way. They're really good.
As far as Cowher goes, isn't his success due more to the Steelers ability to consistently draft really good players, than to his awesome coachiness?
I think he'd be an improvement over Lovie, but in my football world, letting Angelo keep his job and hiring Cowher wouldn't give me a very firm boner.
Quote from: CT III on November 29, 2009, 07:22:21 PM
Listened to Arkush and Hampton prior to the game. First of all, I think Hamp may be borderline retarded.
There is nothing borderline about Dan Hampton's retardation.
Quote from: R-V on November 30, 2009, 08:55:12 AM
Quote from: EVILteddie on November 29, 2009, 07:04:31 PM
Does anybody really think Lovie Smith is going to be fired? Not going to happen now, or after the season. Ron Turner maybe, but I doubt that will even happen.
I loved listening to the Allen/Favre dick sucking all freakin game.
As much as it pains my anus to say it, those pudmongers deserve all the beejes being sent their way. They're really good.
As far as Cowher goes, isn't his success due more to the Steelers ability to consistently draft really good players, than to his awesome coachiness?
I think he'd be an improvement over Lovie, but in my football world, letting Angelo keep his job and hiring Cowher wouldn't give me a very firm boner.
I'd like to see Cowher and Joel Quenneville in a stache-off.
Quote from: R-V on November 30, 2009, 08:55:12 AM
Quote from: EVILteddie on November 29, 2009, 07:04:31 PM
Does anybody really think Lovie Smith is going to be fired? Not going to happen now, or after the season. Ron Turner maybe, but I doubt that will even happen.
I loved listening to the Allen/Favre dick sucking all freakin game.
As much as it pains my anus to say it, those pudmongers deserve all the beejes being sent their way. They're really good.
As far as Cowher goes, isn't his success due more to the Steelers ability to consistently draft really good players, than to his awesome coachiness?
I think he'd be an improvement over Lovie, but in my football world, letting Angelo keep his job and hiring Cowher wouldn't give me a very firm boner.
Agreed. Cowher would improve the situation somewhat, but Angelo really needs to go. Granted, alot of the shitty personnel/coaching decisions this team has made were taken on Lovie's insistence (firing Rivera, deciding "his guy" Archuletta deserved to play over Chris Harris, deciding Bob Babich was worth the danish it takes to feed him), but Angelo needs to have more of a backbone than that. His specialty is supposed to be player evaluation. Coaches naturally favor veterans, GMs need to be able to man up to the coach and ensure roster turnover and keep the team fresh and young even when the coach's loyalty to those players makes it difficult.
Edited to note: Also, during most of Cowher's tenure in Pittsburgh there was no GM. There was a Director of Football Operations, and then there was Cowher, and they typically fought over personnel control. Nevertheless he had a great deal of input.
Quote from: Andy on November 30, 2009, 08:55:52 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 29, 2009, 07:22:21 PM
Listened to Arkush and Hampton prior to the game. First of all, I think Hamp may be borderline retarded.
There is nothing borderline about Dan Hampton's retardation.
I am trying to be charitable this holiday season.
Brian Urlacher, pining for Kyle Orton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush113009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns).
Quote"Look, I love Jay, and I understand he's a great player who can take us a long way, and I still have faith in him," Urlacher said. "But I hate the way our identity has changed. We used to establish the run and wear teams down and try not to make mistakes, and we'd rely on our defense to keep us in the game and make big plays to put us in position to win. Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that's the truth."
Quote from: Eli on November 30, 2009, 09:49:22 AM
Brian Urlacher, pining for Kyle Orton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush113009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns).
Quote"Look, I love Jay, and I understand he's a great player who can take us a long way, and I still have faith in him," Urlacher said. "But I hate the way our identity has changed. We used to establish the run and wear teams down and try not to make mistakes, and we'd rely on our defense to keep us in the game and make big plays to put us in position to win. Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that's the truth."
As much as it pains my anus to say it, Urlacher is right. Orton is a winner, as evidenced by all of his postseason success at both the college and pro levels.
Quote from: Eli on November 30, 2009, 09:49:22 AM
Brian Urlacher, pining for Kyle Orton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush113009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns).
Quote"Look, I love Jay, and I understand he's a great player who can take us a long way, and I still have faith in him," Urlacher said. "But I hate the way our identity has changed. We used to establish the run and wear teams down and try not to make mistakes, and we'd rely on our defense to keep us in the game and make big plays to put us in position to win. Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that's the truth."
Almost sounds like someone who's hoping--or knows--he's going to be thrown overboard with Lovie.
Quote from: Eli on November 30, 2009, 09:49:22 AM
Brian Urlacher, pining for Kyle Orton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush113009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns).
Quote"Look, I love Jay, and I understand he's a great player who can take us a long way, and I still have faith in him," Urlacher said. "But I hate the way our identity has changed. We used to establish the run and wear teams down and try not to make mistakes, and we'd rely on our defense to keep us in the game and make big plays to put us in position to win. Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that's the truth."
Ah, but then:
Quote• When Cutler threw a gorgeous touchdown pass to wideout Johnny Knox(notes) in the corner of the end zone to tie the score at 7, Urlacher was both excited and impressed. "You see him do [expletive] like that, and you're like, 'That's unreal,' " Urlacher said. "I mean, there might be five guys in the league who can make that throw; it couldn't have been anywhere else. It was [expletive] sweet." He called Knox "one of my favorite rookies of all time. He's sensational; he just goes out there and plays. Even in training camp he didn't talk a lot. He played football and won our respect."
Quote• Immediately after the Bears went down 36-10 in the fourth quarter, second-year Chicago halfback Matt Forte(notes) (eight carries, 27 yards) took a handoff to his left and was stopped after a two-yard gain. "Now we're gonna run that [expletive]!" Urlacher said sarcastically. Earlier, discussing a screen pass to Forte that was stuffed, Urlacher had said, "You know why that doesn't work? We don't make anyone [expletive] miss. I guess I just don't realize what great tacklers these [opposing defenders] are. They're amazing."
So... the defense can't stop anyone, and Urlacher thinks Cutler is one of only 5 guys who can make the type of throw that Knox caught for the only TD of the game, and Forte can't make anyone miss and the backup is a guy off the practice squad, but the Bears' identity should be defense and run, no pass.
Quote from: Brownie on November 30, 2009, 10:17:27 AM
So... the defense can't stop anyone, and Urlacher thinks Cutler is one of only 5 guys who can make the type of throw that Knox caught for the only TD of the game, and Forte can't make anyone miss and the backup is a guy off the practice squad, but the Bears' identity should be defense and run, no pass.
HIRE THIS MAN!
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on November 30, 2009, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on November 30, 2009, 09:49:22 AM
Brian Urlacher, pining for Kyle Orton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush113009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns).
Quote"Look, I love Jay, and I understand he's a great player who can take us a long way, and I still have faith in him," Urlacher said. "But I hate the way our identity has changed. We used to establish the run and wear teams down and try not to make mistakes, and we'd rely on our defense to keep us in the game and make big plays to put us in position to win. Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that's the truth."
Almost sounds like someone who's hoping--or knows--he's going to be thrown overboard with Lovie dumber than paint.
The guy's a mongoloid'd. His brain doesn't function at a level high enough to worry about much other than who he's going to wienerslam next or what's for lunch.
Brian Urclaher is a big, dumb animal, folks. Why anyone cares what this ape in street clothes has to say with how the team's offense is run is Reason #187 why I hate everybody ever.
So did Urlacher manage to knock up Michael Silver, too?
Quote from: MAD on November 30, 2009, 11:09:37 AM
Brian Urclaher is a big, dumb animal, folks. Why anyone cares what this ape in street clothes has to say with how the team's offense is run is Reason #187 why I hate everybody ever.
This, except for the fact that he is a big, dumb animal, and something named Michael Silver thinks I care what he thinks, and Urlacher doesn't know he's a big, dumb animal.
Of the 3 linebackers to start in the opener, the third got hurt yesterday. He's also the best one.
I think the best thing for Brian and the rest us is for Brian to go back to his media boycott.
Quote from: Brownie on November 30, 2009, 11:53:01 AM
Quote from: MAD on November 30, 2009, 11:09:37 AM
Brian Urclaher is a big, dumb animal, folks. Why anyone cares what this ape in street clothes has to say with how the team's offense is run is Reason #187 why I hate everybody ever.
This, except for the fact that he is a big, dumb animal, and something named Michael Silver thinks I care what he thinks, and Urlacher doesn't know he's a big, dumb animal.
Of the 3 linebackers to start in the opener, the third got hurt yesterday. He's also the best one player on the team
Guh?
If they made better use of the running game, play action would be even more effective.
Quote from: Fork on November 30, 2009, 06:40:10 PM
If they made better use of the running game, play action would be even more effective.
Screw that. More bubble screens!
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/cover-3/2009/cover-1-whats-wrong-jay-cutler (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/cover-3/2009/cover-1-whats-wrong-jay-cutler)
Quote from: R-V on December 02, 2009, 04:32:03 PM
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/cover-3/2009/cover-1-whats-wrong-jay-cutler (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/cover-3/2009/cover-1-whats-wrong-jay-cutler)
So, who's bigger? Your franchise quarterback or the head coach who took you to the Super Bowl? To me, that might be the biggest underlying question here. Obviously, the personnel is bad (worst O-line and all), but I think it's pretty clear that the type of team that Lovie wants is not the type of team that suits Jay Cutler. So, even though this isn't something new, it is pretty clear it's time for Lovie to go.. To be clear, a couple weeks ago when the Fire Lovie wagon got going, I was reluctant to get on because that "FYRE _____" wagon is usually shitty, however, I'm all for it now.
Well, that took longer than I thought.
http://tradejaycutler.com/ (http://tradejaycutler.com/)
Oooo, I can't wait. (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/1924692,CST-SPT-nd07.article)
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 07, 2009, 10:06:15 AM
Oooo, I can't wait. (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/1924692,CST-SPT-nd07.article)
Alternate headline: "Hypothetical Job on Unemployed Man's Radar"
Quote from: IrishYeti on December 07, 2009, 10:06:15 AM
Oooo, I can't wait. (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/1924692,CST-SPT-nd07.article)
Quote...wife Maura could continue to run Hannah and Friends, the nonprofit foundation named for their daughter and dedicated to helping children and young adults with autism and other special needs. The couple remains committed to the charity and hopes to continue to base it out of a farm north of South Bend.
Holy shit, they're keeping them on FARMS? That's amazing. Do they put them on lines so they can run around and dig?
Anybody interested in sitting next to my dumb ass at the Bears/Vikes Monday Nighter on 12/18, send me a PM. The friend I had slated for that can't do it. (Cannot sit with 'em. Cannot drink with 'em. Cannot pull my pants down with 'em.) So, I won't need anything for the ticket but a beer or two and possibly cab fare home.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 08:30:41 AM
Anybody interested in sitting next to my dumb ass at the Bears/Vikes Monday Nighter on 12/18, send me a PM. The friend I had slated for that can't do it. (Cannot sit with 'em. Cannot drink with 'em. Cannot pull my pants down with 'em.) So, I won't need anything for the ticket but a beer or two and possibly cab fare home.
Jump on this, kids! A Monday night game on Friday is the rarest of the rare.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 10, 2009, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 08:30:41 AM
Anybody interested in sitting next to my dumb ass at the Bears/Vikes Monday Nighter on 12/18, send me a PM. The friend I had slated for that can't do it. (Cannot sit with 'em. Cannot drink with 'em. Cannot pull my pants down with 'em.) So, I won't need anything for the ticket but a beer or two and possibly cab fare home.
Jump on this, kids! A Monday night game on Friday is the rarest of the rare.
D'ur. 12/28.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 08:30:41 AM
Anybody interested in sitting next to my dumb ass at the Bears/Vikes Monday Nighter on 12/18, send me a PM. The friend I had slated for that can't do it. (Cannot sit with 'em. Cannot drink with 'em. Cannot pull my pants down with 'em.) So, I won't need anything for the ticket but a beer or two and possibly cab fare home.
Huey finds your explicit request for payment in beer and/or food (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6727.msg176670#msg176670) shockingly rude.
Also: SIT DOWN, DAMMIT. IT'S NOT A SACK UNTIL THE WHISTLE IS BLOWN, YOU SELF-CENTERED JAGOFF!
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on December 10, 2009, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 08:30:41 AM
Anybody interested in sitting next to my dumb ass at the Bears/Vikes Monday Nighter on 12/18, send me a PM. The friend I had slated for that can't do it. (Cannot sit with 'em. Cannot drink with 'em. Cannot pull my pants down with 'em.) So, I won't need anything for the ticket but a beer or two and possibly cab fare home.
Huey finds your explicit request for payment in beer and/or food (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6727.msg176670#msg176670) shockingly rude.
Also: SIT DOWN, DAMMIT. IT'S NOT A SACK UNTIL THE WHISTLE IS BLOWN, YOU SELF-CENTERED JAGOFF!
I won't be a problem where that's concnered. Most people who have gone to Bears games with me know that I spend the majority of the game with my head in my hands muttering profanities and letting out huge sighs of despair.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 10:23:37 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on December 10, 2009, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 08:30:41 AM
Anybody interested in sitting next to my dumb ass at the Bears/Vikes Monday Nighter on 12/18, send me a PM. The friend I had slated for that can't do it. (Cannot sit with 'em. Cannot drink with 'em. Cannot pull my pants down with 'em.) So, I won't need anything for the ticket but a beer or two and possibly cab fare home.
Huey finds your explicit request for payment in beer and/or food (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6727.msg176670#msg176670) shockingly rude.
Also: SIT DOWN, DAMMIT. IT'S NOT A SACK UNTIL THE WHISTLE IS BLOWN, YOU SELF-CENTERED JAGOFF!
I won't be a problem where that's concnered. Most people who have gone to Bears games with me know that I spend the majority of the game with my head in my hands muttering profanities and letting out huge sighs of despair.
Found a taker. You'll have to watch teh Bears get whipped in the comfort of your own home. Sucks to be you.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 10, 2009, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 10, 2009, 08:30:41 AM
Anybody interested in sitting next to my dumb ass at the Bears/Vikes Monday Nighter on 12/18, send me a PM. The friend I had slated for that can't do it. (Cannot sit with 'em. Cannot drink with 'em. Cannot pull my pants down with 'em.) So, I won't need anything for the ticket but a beer or two and possibly cab fare home.
Jump on this, kids! A Monday night game on Friday is the rarest of the rare.
D'ur. 12/28.
What a cock sucker.
I'm being serious when I say I think they should consider hiring Weis to run the offense.
The thinking is based on my opinion that Lovie will be brought back for one more year, which is mostly based of course on the Bears not wanting to eat too much salary (1 year instead of 2), while justifying the retention by saying that Lovie's Cover-2 was crippled by Brian Urlacher's absence. This will not only buy more time on his contract, but will make the decision to get rid of Smith AND Urlacher easier if it turns out that Urlacher's not worth the investment anymore--a case which gathers increasing strength with time--and the team blows again next year, further clearing the way for a clean start.
At the same time, the team is going to need to account for this season's clusterfuck. The organization can choose to blame Lovie, Marinelli, Babich and Co, for their inability to properly scheme, make adjustments and motivate various high-paid sacks of shit on the line....but that would lead right back to whacking Lovie with 2 years left on his deal. On the other hand, considering that the offense was an equally disappointing band of retardation, the easier move to signify the organization is being proactive would be to whack the unaffiliated Ron Turner. I've never been very passionate about Turner either way, but he makes a good scapegoat.
In the meantime, who the hell is going to come here for what would, under this scenario, seem to be a lame duck season? Well that's where the chubby bastard who's raising retarded kids on a farm 90 miles away comes in. While Weis is certainly not desperate for a job as he still gets paid by his dumbfuck ex-employer, he would still, I imagine, need to restore his credibility as an offensive schemer who's already had success in the league if he ever wants another chance, before everyone catches on to the fact that it's all Belichick and Tom Brady.
It's probably doomed to fail, which means we at least would have 2011 to look forward to, when the Bears get to start drafting again, but what the fuck.
Quote from: MAD on December 11, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
I'm being serious when I say I think they should consider hiring Weis to run the offense.
The thinking is based on my opinion that Lovie will be brought back for one more year, which is mostly based of course on the Bears not wanting to eat too much salary (1 year instead of 2), while justifying the retention by saying that Lovie's Cover-2 was crippled by Brian Urlacher's absence. This will not only buy more time on his contract, but will make the decision to get rid of Smith AND Urlacher easier if it turns out that Urlacher's not worth the investment anymore--a case which gathers increasing strength with time--and the team blows again next year, further clearing the way for a clean start.
At the same time, the team is going to need to account for this season's clusterfuck. The organization can choose to blame Lovie, Marinelli, Babich and Co, for their inability to properly scheme, make adjustments and motivate various high-paid sacks of shit on the line....but that would lead right back to whacking Lovie with 2 years left on his deal. On the other hand, considering that the offense was an equally disappointing band of retardation, the easier move to signify the organization is being proactive would be to whack the unaffiliated Ron Turner. I've never been very passionate about Turner either way, but he makes a good scapegoat.
In the meantime, who the hell is going to come here for what would, under this scenario, seem to be a lame duck season? Well that's where the chubby bastard who's raising retarded kids on a farm 90 miles away comes in. While Weis is certainly not desperate for a job as he still gets paid by his dumbfuck ex-employer, he would still, I imagine, need to restore his credibility as an offensive schemer who's already had success in the league if he ever wants another chance, before everyone catches on to the fact that it's all Belichick and Tom Brady.
It's probably doomed to fail, which means we at least would have 2011 to look forward to, when the Bears get to start drafting again, but what the fuck.
I'm glad you're the only one seriously considering it. If it's a lame duck season for Lovie in 2010, I'd rather they stick with Turner. If they bring in a lame duck OC for a lame duck coach, the quarterback will have to learn his third offense in three years with a certainty that he's going to learn a fourth the following year. I don't see the point. The Bears need new players more than they need new coaches.
I think Angelo and Lovie will get one more year and then the team will clean house and hire a new GM and Head Coach to run the draft, with a near certainty that it'll be a top 5 draft pick. The Bears are going to blow next year. We can only hope that they do so to the fullest possible extent. I've never been that type of fan, that roots for his team to lose but that's what Angelo has brought me to with this roster.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 11, 2009, 09:19:26 AM
I think Angelo and Lovie will get one more year and then the team will clean house and hire a new GM and Head Coach to run the draft, with a near certainty that it'll be a top 5 draft pick. The Bears are going to blow next year. We can only hope that they do so to the fullest possible extent. I've never been that type of fan, that roots for his team to lose but that's what Angelo has brought me to with this roster.
I'm not so sure they both get canned. Angelo's signed through 2013, Lovie just through 2011. Jerry Bear may have one more hire in his gun.
Fuck it. Angelo should just whack Lovie now. He'll have to account for 2 years pay, but he'll also have 3 years to get himself a new deal.
Quote from: MAD on December 11, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 11, 2009, 09:19:26 AM
I think Angelo and Lovie will get one more year and then the team will clean house and hire a new GM and Head Coach to run the draft, with a near certainty that it'll be a top 5 draft pick. The Bears are going to blow next year. We can only hope that they do so to the fullest possible extent. I've never been that type of fan, that roots for his team to lose but that's what Angelo has brought me to with this roster.
I'm not so sure they both get canned. Angelo's signed through 2013, Lovie just through 2011. Jerry Bear may have one more hire in his gun.
Fuck it. Angelo should just whack Lovie now. He'll have to account for 2 years pay, but he'll also have 3 years to get himself a new deal.
God damn, the Bears are depressing. Pretty much every plausible option sucks at this point. My taint cries every time I'm reminded Angelo is signed through 2013.
Quote from: R-V on December 11, 2009, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: MAD on December 11, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 11, 2009, 09:19:26 AM
I think Angelo and Lovie will get one more year and then the team will clean house and hire a new GM and Head Coach to run the draft, with a near certainty that it'll be a top 5 draft pick. The Bears are going to blow next year. We can only hope that they do so to the fullest possible extent. I've never been that type of fan, that roots for his team to lose but that's what Angelo has brought me to with this roster.
I'm not so sure they both get canned. Angelo's signed through 2013, Lovie just through 2011. Jerry Bear may have one more hire in his gun.
Fuck it. Angelo should just whack Lovie now. He'll have to account for 2 years pay, but he'll also have 3 years to get himself a new deal.
God damn, the Bears are depressing. Pretty much every plausible option sucks at this point. My taint cries every time I'm reminded Angelo is signed through 2013.
FIRE TED PHILLIPS!
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 11, 2009, 09:19:26 AM
Quote from: MAD on December 11, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
I'm being serious when I say I think they should consider hiring Weis to run the offense.
The thinking is based on my opinion that Lovie will be brought back for one more year, which is mostly based of course on the Bears not wanting to eat too much salary (1 year instead of 2), while justifying the retention by saying that Lovie's Cover-2 was crippled by Brian Urlacher's absence. This will not only buy more time on his contract, but will make the decision to get rid of Smith AND Urlacher easier if it turns out that Urlacher's not worth the investment anymore--a case which gathers increasing strength with time--and the team blows again next year, further clearing the way for a clean start.
At the same time, the team is going to need to account for this season's clusterfuck. The organization can choose to blame Lovie, Marinelli, Babich and Co, for their inability to properly scheme, make adjustments and motivate various high-paid sacks of shit on the line....but that would lead right back to whacking Lovie with 2 years left on his deal. On the other hand, considering that the offense was an equally disappointing band of retardation, the easier move to signify the organization is being proactive would be to whack the unaffiliated Ron Turner. I've never been very passionate about Turner either way, but he makes a good scapegoat.
In the meantime, who the hell is going to come here for what would, under this scenario, seem to be a lame duck season? Well that's where the chubby bastard who's raising retarded kids on a farm 90 miles away comes in. While Weis is certainly not desperate for a job as he still gets paid by his dumbfuck ex-employer, he would still, I imagine, need to restore his credibility as an offensive schemer who's already had success in the league if he ever wants another chance, before everyone catches on to the fact that it's all Belichick and Tom Brady.
It's probably doomed to fail, which means we at least would have 2011 to look forward to, when the Bears get to start drafting again, but what the fuck.
I'm glad you're the only one seriously considering it. If it's a lame duck season for Lovie in 2010, I'd rather they stick with Turner. If they bring in a lame duck OC for a lame duck coach, the quarterback will have to learn his third offense in three years with a certainty that he's going to learn a fourth the following year. I don't see the point. The Bears need new players more than they need new coaches.
I think Angelo and Lovie will get one more year and then the team will clean house and hire a new GM and Head Coach to run the draft, with a near certainty that it'll be a top 5 draft pick. The Bears are going to blow next year. We can only hope that they do so to the fullest possible extent. I've never been that type of fan, that roots for his team to lose but that's what Angelo has brought me to with this roster.
The biggest concern I would have with hiring Weis right now is that, if the senario that MAD described happened (Lovie getting fired at the end of the 2010 season), The Bear's braintrust would likely just elevate Weis to the HC position, which I do not want to see.
Quote from: thehawk on December 11, 2009, 01:31:52 PM
The biggest concern I would have with hiring Weis right now is that, if the senario that
MAD described happened (Lovie getting fired at the end of the 2010 season), The Bear's
braintrust would likely just elevate Weis to the HC position, which I do not want to see.
My biggest concern is that I really don't believe he's a good offensive coordinator. I think
his time in New England doesn't hurt him, but I also don't think it's a real strong support.
Tons of talent and it's not like they missed him.
I watched way more of his ND games that I'd have liked, and I didn't see any real genius
there. As much as it's in vogue to blame the defense, ND didn't move the ball _that_
well against the good teams it did play despite having a whole ton of talent at the skill
positions. ND was 38th in scoring offense this year, 66th last, 116th the year before.
I don't mean this question in a sarcastic or mean way (I'd love some serious discussion), but
what in Weis' past makes anyone think he'd be a good OC for the Bears?
Quote from: Pre on December 11, 2009, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: thehawk on December 11, 2009, 01:31:52 PM
The biggest concern I would have with hiring Weis right now is that, if the senario that
MAD described happened (Lovie getting fired at the end of the 2010 season), The Bear's
braintrust would likely just elevate Weis to the HC position, which I do not want to see.
My biggest concern is that I really don't believe he's a good offensive coordinator. I think
his time in New England doesn't hurt him, but I also don't think it's a real strong support.
Tons of talent and it's not like they missed him.
I watched way more of his ND games that I'd have liked, and I didn't see any real genius
there. As much as it's in vogue to blame the defense, ND didn't move the ball _that_
well against the good teams it did play despite having a whole ton of talent at the skill
positions. ND was 38th in scoring offense this year, 66th last, 116th the year before.
I don't mean this question in a sarcastic or mean way (I'd love some serious discussion), but
what in Weis' past makes anyone think he'd be a good OC for the Bears?
He once coordinated a last minute, game winning drive for a field goal against a Lovie Smith-led defense?
Quote from: Pre on December 11, 2009, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: thehawk on December 11, 2009, 01:31:52 PM
The biggest concern I would have with hiring Weis right now is that, if the senario that
MAD described happened (Lovie getting fired at the end of the 2010 season), The Bear's
braintrust would likely just elevate Weis to the HC position, which I do not want to see.
My biggest concern is that I really don't believe he's a good offensive coordinator. I think
his time in New England doesn't hurt him, but I also don't think it's a real strong support.
Tons of talent and it's not like they missed him.
I watched way more of his ND games that I'd have liked, and I didn't see any real genius
there. As much as it's in vogue to blame the defense, ND didn't move the ball _that_
well against the good teams it did play despite having a whole ton of talent at the skill
positions. ND was 38th in scoring offense this year, 66th last, 116th the year before.
I don't mean this question in a sarcastic or mean way (I'd love some serious discussion), but
what in Weis' past makes anyone think he'd be a good OC for the Bears?
I agree. I think he's a pretty good quarterbacks coach (shockingly). But I thought his offensive playcalling was head-scratchingly stupid for much of his time at ND.
Quote from: Kermit, B. on December 11, 2009, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Pre on December 11, 2009, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: thehawk on December 11, 2009, 01:31:52 PM
The biggest concern I would have with hiring Weis right now is that, if the senario that
MAD described happened (Lovie getting fired at the end of the 2010 season), The Bear's
braintrust would likely just elevate Weis to the HC position, which I do not want to see.
My biggest concern is that I really don't believe he's a good offensive coordinator. I think
his time in New England doesn't hurt him, but I also don't think it's a real strong support.
Tons of talent and it's not like they missed him.
I watched way more of his ND games that I'd have liked, and I didn't see any real genius
there. As much as it's in vogue to blame the defense, ND didn't move the ball _that_
well against the good teams it did play despite having a whole ton of talent at the skill
positions. ND was 38th in scoring offense this year, 66th last, 116th the year before.
I don't mean this question in a sarcastic or mean way (I'd love some serious discussion), but
what in Weis' past makes anyone think he'd be a good OC for the Bears?
I agree. I think he's a pretty good quarterbacks coach (shockingly). But I thought his offensive playcalling was head-scratchingly stupid for much of his time at ND.
Stupid play calling? What about "pass right"? The play worked and tugged at your heart strings at the same time. Let's see Turner do that.
3rd and 2. Olin Kreutz, with his big mouth, does a shimmy and blocks no one. Nice work.
So who has turned off the game already?
Should I Paulcast this abortion?
This is going to be a long three hours. I don't think I have it in me.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 13, 2009, 12:08:24 PM
Should I Paulcast this abortion?
Only if you're going to use a coat hanger. This game deserves no better.
Insult to injury - my FOX HD station is not working. Standard def! The horror!
Quote from: Slack-E on December 13, 2009, 12:08:24 PM
Should I Paulcast this abortion?
This is going to be a long three hours. I don't think I have it in me.
This could be the game that is the final nail in Lovie's coffin.
Quote from: Waco Kid on December 13, 2009, 12:55:35 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 13, 2009, 12:08:24 PM
Should I Paulcast this abortion?
This is going to be a long three hours. I don't think I have it in me.
This could be the game that is the final nail in Lovie's coffin.
Meh. Even if it is (and I don't think it will be), does Angelo go to? Until that happens, it doesn't matter much.
Can someone please push Thom Brennaman into Lake Michigan at halftime? Please?
Johnny KVNOX!
Apparently getting pushed to the ground after an extra point is a 15 yard penalty against you. Wow.
At least they're letting Cutler do whatever the fuck he wants out there now. And he seems to have solved the problem of his slow receivers matched up against good corners - get the corner running full speed with the wideout, then throw it behind him and let WR stop for it.
From @thekapman:
Very little action for aromashadu all season long. That is a joke.
The fact that it took Lovie Smith 14 weeks to play Aromashadu is an example of why he should be canned.
Now Kaplan is on about how the Yankees, Steelers and Lakers wouldn't tolerate three years of mediocrity. I'm not even sure how to process that information.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 13, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Now Kaplan is on about how the Yankees, Steelers and Lakers wouldn't tolerate three years of mediocrity. I'm not even sure how to process that information.
Ask how long Kap's been married and retweet that @ his wife?
Come on Lovie, a real head coach would have used all three timeouts right there.
Lovie burns through two timeouts there with more wonderful challenge management. That wasn't ever going to be overturned...
A killer penalty on the punt return, then a false start on 4th and 4, just to make it an even 13 flags on the Bears before this game mercifully ends...
Quote from: BC on December 13, 2009, 03:01:56 PM
A killer penalty on the punt return, then a false start on 4th and 4, just to make it an even 13 flags on the Bears before this game mercifully ends...
An even 13?
Quote from: C-C-Cats on December 13, 2009, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: BC on December 13, 2009, 03:01:56 PM
A killer penalty on the punt return, then a false start on 4th and 4, just to make it an even 13 flags on the Bears before this game mercifully ends...
An even 13?
He's citing Lovie's challenge management as exhibit A in his fire Lovie case; I wouldn't doubt that this is anything but intentional.
At this point, would this team be in a better long-term position if Seattle and Pittsburgh didn't have shitty kickers?
If their only wins were against the Lions, Rams and Browns, would that guarantee Lovie's firing?
Quote from: fiveouts on December 13, 2009, 04:58:41 PM
At this point, would this team be in a better long-term position if Seattle and Pittsburgh didn't have shitty kickers?
If their only wins were against the Lions, Rams and Browns, would that guarantee Lovie's firing?
Seattle and Pittsburgh aren't exactly title contenders. We all know what's up. I think like many have said it's money. Money money money.
Quote from: fiveouts on December 13, 2009, 04:58:41 PM
At this point, would this team be in a better long-term position if Seattle and Pittsburgh didn't have shitty kickers?
If their only wins were against the Lions, Rams and Browns, would that guarantee Lovie's firing?
Plus, more losses would secure the Broncos a better draft slot.
TRAY DEJAKE UTLER.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on December 13, 2009, 10:57:52 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on December 13, 2009, 04:58:41 PM
At this point, would this team be in a better long-term position if Seattle and Pittsburgh didn't have shitty kickers?
If their only wins were against the Lions, Rams and Browns, would that guarantee Lovie's firing?
Plus, more losses would secure the Broncos a better draft slot.
TRAY DEJAKE UTLER.
START KALAB HAYNEE!
ALL KAPS MISS PELLING
Quote from: Slack-E on December 13, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Now Kaplan is on about how the Yankees, Steelers and Lakers wouldn't tolerate three years of mediocrity. I'm not even sure how to process that information.
Like...the 80s?
Quote from: PenFoe on December 14, 2009, 10:05:45 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 13, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Now Kaplan is on about how the Yankees, Steelers and Lakers wouldn't tolerate three years of mediocrity. I'm not even sure how to process that information.
Like...the 80s?
Well yeah - all of those teams have had many, many mediocre seasons. All of them. Also, since when does tolerating losing come into play? I didn't realize that simply not tolerating these things prevents their occurance. What a hack.
If Dolan doesn't force Kaplan into calling him a motherfucker on the air, I'm going to be upset.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 14, 2009, 10:11:47 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 14, 2009, 10:05:45 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 13, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Now Kaplan is on about how the Yankees, Steelers and Lakers wouldn't tolerate three years of mediocrity. I'm not even sure how to process that information.
Like...the 80s?
Well yeah - all of those teams have had many, many mediocre seasons. All of them. Also, since when does tolerating losing come into play? I didn't realize that simply not tolerating these things prevents their occurance. What a hack.
If Dolan doesn't force Kaplan into calling him a motherfucker on the air, I'm going to be upset.
It's not the toleration of losing that bothers me, it's the toleration of bullshit. BRING BACK DITKA
Two words for that pile of pooh on display on that shitty brown field yesterday afternoon:
clown fucking college.
Quote from: MAD on December 14, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
Two words for that pile of pooh on display on that shitty brown field yesterday afternoon:
clown fucking college.
That's three words.
Quote from: CT III on December 14, 2009, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: MAD on December 14, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
Two words for that pile of pooh on display on that shitty brown field yesterday afternoon:
clown fucking college.
That's three words.
Not a fan of "Midnight Run"?
Quote from: MAD on December 14, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: CT III on December 14, 2009, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: MAD on December 14, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
Two words for that pile of pooh on display on that shitty brown field yesterday afternoon:
clown fucking college.
That's three words.
Not a fan of "Midnight Run"?
Shut the fuck up.
Quote from: MAD on December 14, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
Two words for that pile of pooh on display on that shitty brown field yesterday afternoon:
clown fucking college.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4185803234_9d2df5c8ff_o.jpg)
Quote from: morpheus on December 14, 2009, 02:08:39 PM
Quote from: MAD on December 14, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
Two words for that pile of pooh on display on that shitty brown field yesterday afternoon:
clown fucking college.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4185803234_9d2df5c8ff_o.jpg)
How dare you do that to Jay
Quote from: Yeti on December 14, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: morpheus on December 14, 2009, 02:08:39 PM
Quote from: MAD on December 14, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
Two words for that pile of pooh on display on that shitty brown field yesterday afternoon:
clown fucking college.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4185803234_9d2df5c8ff_o.jpg)
How dare you do that to Jay
Do what?
Quote from: morpheus on December 14, 2009, 02:14:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 14, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: morpheus on December 14, 2009, 02:08:39 PM
Quote from: MAD on December 14, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
Two words for that pile of pooh on display on that shitty brown field yesterday afternoon:
clown fucking college.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4185803234_9d2df5c8ff_o.jpg)
How dare you do that to Jay
Do what?
You know what you did, you mouthbreather.
Go Mike Imrem.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=344066
Quote from: BH on December 16, 2009, 12:10:56 PM
Go Mike Imrem.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=344066
Go where? The unemployment line?
Who around here is going to start a "Trade Cutler" blog?
Quote from: BH on December 16, 2009, 12:10:56 PM
Go Mike Imrem.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=344066
He knows how to rile up the stupid, I'll give him that.
Quote from: CBStew on December 16, 2009, 12:17:26 PM
Who around here is going to start a "Trade Cutler" blog?
This guy. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg198924#msg198924)
Quote from: Slack-E on December 16, 2009, 12:24:10 PM
Quote from: BH on December 16, 2009, 12:10:56 PM
Go Mike Imrem.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=344066
He knows how to rile up the stupid, I'll give him that.
I give this article a rating of five meatballs.
Quote from: BH on December 16, 2009, 12:10:56 PM
Go Mike Imrem.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=344066
QuoteWhere indeed is Papa Bear?
Where have you gone, Walter Payton, a city turns its lonely eyes to you?
They're fucking dead.
QuoteWhere is the owner hesitant for whatever reason, financial or friendship, to fire the head coach or general manager?
Is he pining for an owner that is hesitant to fire the coach and GM?
If I recall correctly, there was a brief shining moment in local history when Mike Imrem seemed to be on the right path, a suburban paper answer to Bob Verdi, if you will. I'm thinking this would be around 1987--but it could also be my still-emerging critically-developing mind was unable to pick up on how ham-handed and awful he may have actually been. Regardless, he has been absolutely awful for at least 2 solid decades now. Rick Morrissey can only dream of such voluminous sucktitude.
How about those Broncos and Kyle Ortman?
Who could have seen them going 2-7 down the stretch? You know, other than everybody.
Nice of ESPN to bring about 5 cameras with them to the game and then point 3 of them at the crowd.
Would it be too much to ask for someone to make sure that Brett Favre leaves this game unconscious, if for no other reason than to see Gruden, Jaworksi, et. al. personally run down to the field to administer mouth-to-mouth?
Quote from: fiveouts on December 28, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
Would it be too much to ask for someone to make sure that Brett Favre leaves this game unconscious, if for no other reason than to see Gruden, Jaworksi, et. al. personally run down to the field to administer mouth-to-mouth?
Generally when a hall of fame quarterback is leading the top team in the conference against a horseshit team with a QB leading the league in interceptions, he's going to get some praise.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 28, 2009, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on December 28, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
Would it be too much to ask for someone to make sure that Brett Favre leaves this game unconscious, if for no other reason than to see Gruden, Jaworksi, et. al. personally run down to the field to administer mouth-to-mouth?
Generally when a hall of fame quarterback is leading the top team in the conference against a horseshit team with a QB leading the league in interceptions, he's going to get some praise.
You fucking apologist.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 28, 2009, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on December 28, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
Would it be too much to ask for someone to make sure that Brett Favre leaves this game unconscious, if for no other reason than to see Gruden, Jaworksi, et. al. personally run down to the field to administer mouth-to-mouth?
Generally when a hall of fame quarterback is leading the top team in the conference against a horseshit team with a QB leading the league in interceptions, he's going to get some praise.
He's the greatest human since Derek Jeter.
Quote from: CT III on December 28, 2009, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 28, 2009, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on December 28, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
Would it be too much to ask for someone to make sure that Brett Favre leaves this game unconscious, if for no other reason than to see Gruden, Jaworksi, et. al. personally run down to the field to administer mouth-to-mouth?
Generally when a hall of fame quarterback is leading the top team in the conference against a horseshit team with a QB leading the league in interceptions, he's going to get some praise.
You fucking apologist.
I'm just trying to piss people off. I don't believe any of that.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 28, 2009, 10:40:12 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 28, 2009, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 28, 2009, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on December 28, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
Would it be too much to ask for someone to make sure that Brett Favre leaves this game unconscious, if for no other reason than to see Gruden, Jaworksi, et. al. personally run down to the field to administer mouth-to-mouth?
Generally when a hall of fame quarterback is leading the top team in the conference against a horseshit team with a QB leading the league in interceptions, he's going to get some praise.
You fucking apologist.
I'm just trying to piss people off. I don't believe any of that.
And I'm drunk and stirring shit up. I don't care about your beliefs.
Utler, uther uckers.
So I'm in Mexico watching this game. Things I would consider strange about ESPN Vivo:
1. For some reason, they had some guy do the bumpers coming back from commercial, instead of Tirico et. al. But they were in English.
2. There was at least a 7 minute interview with Roberto Garza on the field after the game.
3. The intro to SportsCenter referred to Chad Ochocinco as "Black Mexican."
Fuck you Vikings
Fuck you Favruh
Fuck you Gruden
Quote from: fiveouts on December 28, 2009, 11:09:33 PM
So I'm in Mexico watching this game. Things I would consider strange about ESPN Vivo:
1. For some reason, they had some guy do the bumpers coming back from commercial, instead of Tirico et. al. But they were in English.
2. There was at least a 7 minute interview with Roberto Garza on the field after the game.
3. The intro to SportsCenter referred to Chad Ochocinco as "Black Mexican."
You're missing some wonderful weather.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 28, 2009, 11:17:45 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on December 28, 2009, 11:09:33 PM
So I'm in Mexico watching this game. Things I would consider strange about ESPN Vivo:
1. For some reason, they had some guy do the bumpers coming back from commercial, instead of Tirico et. al. But they were in English.
2. There was at least a 7 minute interview with Roberto Garza on the field after the game.
3. The intro to SportsCenter referred to Chad Ochocinco as "Black Mexican."
You're missing some wonderful weather.
I can't believe I even watched the game in the first place. Getting drunk in the afternoon and passing out on a beach chair (and thus being able to wake up and rally at 7:30) has its advantages.
Quote from: CT III on December 28, 2009, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 28, 2009, 10:40:12 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 28, 2009, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 28, 2009, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on December 28, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
Would it be too much to ask for someone to make sure that Brett Favre leaves this game unconscious, if for no other reason than to see Gruden, Jaworksi, et. al. personally run down to the field to administer mouth-to-mouth?
Generally when a hall of fame quarterback is leading the top team in the conference against a horseshit team with a QB leading the league in interceptions, he's going to get some praise.
You fucking apologist.
I'm just trying to piss people off. I don't believe any of that.
And I'm drunk and stirring shit up. I don't care about your beliefs.
This is my favorite post of the Great Viking Apocalypse of 2009-10. So far.
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Farve?
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
Sid Luckman.
Randall Cunningham?
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
RapeWomen
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
2008 Cutler?
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Moses Moreno? P.T. Willis?
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Cade
Quote from: Pre on December 30, 2009, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
2008 Cutler?
oooh.. That's a good one.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 30, 2009, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Cade
Ah... I missed that. It's gotta be Sexy then
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 30, 2009, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Cade
Ah... I missed that. It's gotta be Sexy then
SABRYeti wins the statpogs! Mystery QB is Rex's Super Bowl season.
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:16:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 30, 2009, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Cade
Ah... I missed that. It's gotta be Sexy then
SABRYeti wins the statpogs! Mystery QB is Rex's Super Bowl season.
Any way you can send them p2p?
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:16:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 30, 2009, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Cade
Ah... I missed that. It's gotta be Sexy then
SABRYeti wins the statpogs! Mystery QB is Rex's Super Bowl season.
Any way you can send them p2p?
Pud to pud?
I was starting to think Encyclopedia TJ or Huey Babbit was going to have to bail you guys out on this one.
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:16:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 30, 2009, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Cade
Ah... I missed that. It's gotta be Sexy then
SABRYeti wins the statpogs! Mystery QB is Rex's Super Bowl season.
Any way you can send them p2p?
Pud to pud?
I was starting to think Encyclopedia TJ or Huey Babbit was going to have to bail you guys out on this one.
Well, I never hated Rex Grossman so I'm ok with this.... kind of.
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:16:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 30, 2009, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 30, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Yes, the supporting casts are different, but as a statfelcher I thought this was interesting:
2009 Cutler: 6.5 yards per attempt
22.7 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover (INTs and fumbles)
Mystery QB: 6.7 yards per attempt
20.8 attempts per touchdown pass
19.2 attempts per turnover
Ten statpogs to the first moran to guess the Mystery QB without internets.
Ortman?
No, but it's a Bears QB from a past season.
Cade
Ah... I missed that. It's gotta be Sexy then
SABRYeti wins the statpogs! Mystery QB is Rex's Super Bowl season.
Any way you can send them p2p?
Pud to pud?
I was starting to think Encyclopedia TJ or Huey Babbit was going to have to bail you guys out on this one.
Well, I never hated Rex Grossman so I'm ok with this.... kind of.
Just send something to his avatar and Yeti will be a happy fat boy.
Quote from: Yeti on December 30, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
Well, I never hated Rex Grossman so I'm ok with this.... kind of.
2006 was the best year of Sexy's career and 2009 has been Cutler's worse. Considering
the lack of an offensive line and running game, it's pretty impressive that Cutler has
managed the same QB rating as Sexy's 2006.
If the Bears had the 2009 offense w/ 2006's defense and special teams we'd all
be excited for the playoffs. I also believe that Cutler's numbers would be a lot better
(to use to the classic Favre-defense) if he was playing from behind less.
Quote from: Pre on December 30, 2009, 02:44:18 PM
I also believe that Cutler's numbers would be a lot better (to use to the classic Favre-defense) if he was playing from behind less.
It seemed like the Bears were down 7-0 by the time the offense got the ball for a second time in almost every game this year...
So, Devin Aromashadu might be good. Too bad it took so long for him to get on the field.
Quote from: Eli on January 03, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
So, Devin Aromashadu might be good. Too bad it took so long for him to get on the field.
He was with two other teams before the Bears picked him up off the scrap heap. He's somebody else's Mark Bradley apparently.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 03, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 03, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
So, Devin Aromashadu might be good. Too bad it took so long for him to get on the field.
He was with two other teams before the Bears picked him up off the scrap heap. He's somebody else's Mark Bradley apparently.
Haha, no one would ever make Aromashadu the 38th pick in the draft.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 03, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 03, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
So, Devin Aromashadu might be good. Too bad it took so long for him to get on the field.
He was with two other teams before the Bears picked him up off the scrap heap. He's somebody else's Mark Bradley apparently.
Also, Aromashadu got hurt in camp. That's the only reason Johnny Knox made it as the number 3.
Quote from: CT III on January 03, 2010, 08:01:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 03, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 03, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
So, Devin Aromashadu might be good. Too bad it took so long for him to get on the field.
He was with two other teams before the Bears picked him up off the scrap heap. He's somebody else's Mark Bradley apparently.
Also, Aromashadu got hurt in camp. That's the only reason Johnny Knox made it as the number 3.
When in Rome, do as Aromashadu.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 03, 2010, 11:09:26 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 03, 2010, 08:01:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 03, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 03, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
So, Devin Aromashadu might be good. Too bad it took so long for him to get on the field.
He was with two other teams before the Bears picked him up off the scrap heap. He's somebody else's Mark Bradley apparently.
Also, Aromashadu got hurt in camp. That's the only reason Johnny Knox made it as the number 3.
When in Rome, do as Aromashadu.
Louis Lipps sinks ships.
So a 10, an 18, an 84, and an Ortman for Utler and Knox. Works for me.
Also, Josh McDaniels is a pudwhack. In a sea of sports suck the Broncos nosedive was fun to watch.
For what it's worth-
Cutler's 2009-
-27 tds (3rd best in Bears history after Kramer (29 in 1995) and Luckman (28 in 1943))
-3,666 yards (2nd best in Bears history after Kramer (3,838 in 1995))
-229.1 ypg (2nd after Kramer (239.9 in 1995))
-60.5 % comp. (3rd after Harbaugh (61.5% in 1993) and Walsh (60.6 in 1994)), minimum 10 games.
-1st in completions (336) and attempts (555)
-26 interceptions (2nd after Luckman (31 in 1947, but dammit, he made the Pro Bowl.)
-76.8 career rating as a Bear (4th behind Kramer (80.7), McMahon (80.4), and Walsh (77.9)), minimum 10 games.
Quote from: R-V on January 04, 2010, 06:40:15 AM
So a 10, an 18, an 84, and an Ortman for Utler and Knox. Works for me.
Also, Josh McDaniels is a pudwhack. In a sea of sports suck the Broncos nosedive was fun to watch.
In the end, Ortman, the future hall of famer early in the year, was who we thought he was.
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 04, 2010, 07:57:06 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 04, 2010, 06:40:15 AM
So a 10, an 18, an 84, and an Ortman for Utler and Knox. Works for me.
Also, Josh McDaniels is a pudwhack. In a sea of sports suck the Broncos nosedive was fun to watch.
In the end, Ortman, the future hall of famer early in the year, was who we thought he was.
Let's give Ortman some credit. He had 3,802 yards passing, completed 62% of his passes, and had 21 tds to just 12 picks. Were those all hollow, system fueled stats? Of course they were, but dammit, he's secured his place among the Fiedlers, Brad Johnsons, and Brian Grieses of the world as a future "gritty veteran back up."
Also, the similarities between Matt Cassel's 2008 and Kyle Orton's 2009 in the same system are eerie-
Cassel- 327/516/63.4%/3,693 yds/21 tds/11 ints/7.2 ypa/230.8 ypg/89.4 rating
Orton-336/541/62.1%/3,802 yds/21 tds/12 ints/7.0 ypa/237.6 ypg/86.8 rating.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 08:04:18 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 04, 2010, 07:57:06 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 04, 2010, 06:40:15 AM
So a 10, an 18, an 84, and an Ortman for Utler and Knox. Works for me.
Also, Josh McDaniels is a pudwhack. In a sea of sports suck the Broncos nosedive was fun to watch.
In the end, Ortman, the future hall of famer early in the year, was who we thought he was.
Let's give Ortman some credit. He had 3,802 yards passing, completed 62% of his passes, and had 21 tds to just 12 picks. Were those all hollow, system fueled stats? Of course they were, but dammit, he's secured his place among the Fiedlers, Brad Johnsons, and Brian Grieses of the world as a future "gritty veteran back up."
Also, the similarities between Matt Cassel's 2008 and Kyle Orton's 2009 in the same system are eerie-
Cassel- 327/516/63.4%/3,693 yds/21 tds/11 ints/7.2 ypa/230.8 ypg/89.4 rating
Orton-336/541/62.1%/3,802 yds/21 tds/12 ints/7.0 ypa/237.6 ypg/86.8 rating.
I know who Ortman is. He's the dude who's playin' the dude disguised as another dude. That other dude is Brad Johnson.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 07:40:04 AM
For what it's worth-
Cutler's 2009-
-27 tds (3rd best in Bears history after Kramer (29 in 1995) and Luckman (28 in 1943))
-3,666 yards (2nd best in Bears history after Kramer (3,838 in 1995))
-229.1 ypg (2nd after Kramer (239.9 in 1995))
-60.5 % comp. (3rd after Harbaugh (61.5% in 1993) and Walsh (60.6 in 1994)), minimum 10 games.
-1st in completions (336) and attempts (555)
-26 interceptions (2nd after Luckman (31 in 1947, but , he made the Pro Bowl.)
-76.8 career rating as a Bear (4th behind Kramer (80.7), McMahon (80.4), and Walsh (77.9)), minimum 10 games.
So Ron Turner's offenses hold almost all those records? I see Luckman on there twice, and Jim Mcmahon once, but Kramer, Walsh and the 1993-model Harbaugh were all Ron Turner-coached.
Quote from: Brownie on January 04, 2010, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 07:40:04 AM
For what it's worth-
Cutler's 2009-
-27 tds (3rd best in Bears history after Kramer (29 in 1995) and Luckman (28 in 1943))
-3,666 yards (2nd best in Bears history after Kramer (3,838 in 1995))
-229.1 ypg (2nd after Kramer (239.9 in 1995))
-60.5 % comp. (3rd after Harbaugh (61.5% in 1993) and Walsh (60.6 in 1994)), minimum 10 games.
-1st in completions (336) and attempts (555)
-26 interceptions (2nd after Luckman (31 in 1947, but , he made the Pro Bowl.)
-76.8 career rating as a Bear (4th behind Kramer (80.7), McMahon (80.4), and Walsh (77.9)), minimum 10 games.
So Ron Turner's offenses hold almost all those records? I see Luckman on there twice, and Jim Mcmahon once, but Kramer, Walsh and the 1993-model Harbaugh were all Ron Turner-coached.
That's less a testament to Ron Turner's offensive brilliance than it is a testament to actually utilizing the forward pass, which few of the non-Turner Bear offenses chose to do. I'm not a big believer in blaming all of the offense's woes on Ron Turner. I'm just not one to give him credit for all of the successes either. He is what he is: mediocre. And I'm not sure Ron Turner would want credit for the 1993 Harbaugh. The 61.5 completion % is nice, but the 7 touchdown passes in 15 starts are not.
Quote from: Eli on January 03, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
So, Devin Aromashadu might be good. Too bad it took so long for him to get on the field.
THI
I saw Jackie Churches on the field (special teams, natch) and realized that I had forgotten about him. Wasn't he a 2nd or 3rd round pick out of a Big 12 school? And he couldn't get on the field this year for a 7-9 team? And didn't they do the same thing with Earl Bennet last year? And can I keep asking quasi-rhetorical questions? Yes, Knox got on the field this year, but what type of team would draft those other guys and basically redshirt them? It's like this regime don't want us to know if the problem is with the scouting or with the player development.
Aroma Shadoo may be good or shitty--who knows? But Knox excepted, how come nobody else plays right away?
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 09:09:44 AM
Quote from: Brownie on January 04, 2010, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 07:40:04 AM
For what it's worth-
Cutler's 2009-
-27 tds (3rd best in Bears history after Kramer (29 in 1995) and Luckman (28 in 1943))
-3,666 yards (2nd best in Bears history after Kramer (3,838 in 1995))
-229.1 ypg (2nd after Kramer (239.9 in 1995))
-60.5 % comp. (3rd after Harbaugh (61.5% in 1993) and Walsh (60.6 in 1994)), minimum 10 games.
-1st in completions (336) and attempts (555)
-26 interceptions (2nd after Luckman (31 in 1947, but , he made the Pro Bowl.)
-76.8 career rating as a Bear (4th behind Kramer (80.7), McMahon (80.4), and Walsh (77.9)), minimum 10 games.
So Ron Turner's offenses hold almost all those records? I see Luckman on there twice, and Jim Mcmahon once, but Kramer, Walsh and the 1993-model Harbaugh were all Ron Turner-coached.
That's less a testament to Ron Turner's offensive brilliance than it is a testament to actually utilizing the forward pass, which few of the non-Turner Bear offenses chose to do. I'm not a big believer in blaming all of the offense's woes on Ron Turner. I'm just not one to give him credit for all of the successes either. He is what he is: mediocre. And I'm not sure Ron Turner would want credit for the 1993 Harbaugh. The 61.5 completion % is nice, but the 7 touchdown passes in 15 starts are not.
DPD.
Harbaugh sucked, but he had a straitjacket on him that year. Pornstedt and Turner didn't trust him (In fairnes, like I said, he did suck). I'm actually stunned to see Harbo (/Ditka) set a record for completion percentage that year because my memory of that season's offense is riddled with giant dinglberries of frustration.
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 09:57:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 03, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
So, Devin Aromashadu might be good. Too bad it took so long for him to get on the field.
THI
I saw Jackie Churches on the field (special teams, natch) and realized that I had forgotten about him. Wasn't he a 2nd or 3rd round pick out of a Big 12 school? And he couldn't get on the field this year for a 7-9 team? And didn't they do the same thing with Earl Bennet last year? And can I keep asking quasi-rhetorical questions? Yes, Knox got on the field this year, but what type of team would draft those other guys and basically redshirt them? It's like this regime don't want us to know if the problem is with the scouting or with the player development.
Aroma Shadoo may be good or shitty--who knows? But Knox excepted, how come nobody else plays right away?
What I get from their explanations about holding out the likes of Bennett and Aromashadu is that they don't understand the offense/gameplan well enough to be trusted in game situations. And Hester still doesn't know what he's doing. And Knox and Olsen are constantly drawing Cutler's ire for the route-running snafoos.
I don't know if this is all a huge indictment of everybody from the receivers' coach, Darrell (sp?) Drake all the way up to Jerry Angelo, but it sure as shit seems like it.
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
QuoteBy Dan Arkush
?
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
QuoteBy Dan Arkush
?
At first read, this seems like the most insightful article on the Bears I've read in my entire life. But what would you be willing to bet that Dan? Arkush just interviewed Hub and passed that bald-headed coot off as an "inside source?"
EDIT: A cursory glance at the Arkush Family Tree reveals that Dan is Hub's less-famous brother. Nice gig.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
QuoteBy Dan Arkush
?
At first read, this seems like the most insightful article on the Bears I've read in my entire life. But what would you be willing to bet that Dan? Arkush just interviewed Hub and passed that bald-headed coot off as an "inside source?"
EDIT: A cursory glance at the Arkush Family Tree reveals that Dan is Hub's less-famous brother. Nice gig.
IIRC, Hub's dad is the one who started this local media empire.
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
QuoteBy Dan Arkush
?
At first read, this seems like the most insightful article on the Bears I've read in my entire life. But what would you be willing to bet that Dan? Arkush just interviewed Hub and passed that bald-headed coot off as an "inside source?"
EDIT: A cursory glance at the Arkush Family Tree reveals that Dan is Hub's less-famous brother. Nice gig.
IIRC, Hub's dad is the one who started this local media empire.
Art Arkush is the responsible party. Correct.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
QuoteBy Dan Arkush
?
At first read, this seems like the most insightful article on the Bears I've read in my entire life. But what would you be willing to bet that Dan? Arkush just interviewed Hub and passed that bald-headed coot off as an "inside source?"
EDIT: A cursory glance at the Arkush Family Tree reveals that Dan is Hub's less-famous brother. Nice gig.
IIRC, Hub's dad is the one who started this local media empire.
Art Arkush is the responsible party. Correct.
I smell bullshit on the "unnamed sources". Especially the ones trashing Urlacher. I'm not defending that moran but are we supposed to believe Urlacher turned the team against Cade McNown? The jackass that was there a year before Urlacher got there and spent a grand total of 9 games on the same field as Brian? That was Big Cat who lead the anti-Cade charge, the same way Thomas Jones and any moron who wondered why the fuck the Bears drafted Cedric Benson "turned" the locker room against Ced, not Urlacher. A lot of the criticisms are valid, but its just another bitter Arkush hack job.
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 10:27:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 09:09:44 AM
Quote from: Brownie on January 04, 2010, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 07:40:04 AM
For what it's worth-
Cutler's 2009-
-27 tds (3rd best in Bears history after Kramer (29 in 1995) and Luckman (28 in 1943))
-3,666 yards (2nd best in Bears history after Kramer (3,838 in 1995))
-229.1 ypg (2nd after Kramer (239.9 in 1995))
-60.5 % comp. (3rd after Harbaugh (61.5% in 1993) and Walsh (60.6 in 1994)), minimum 10 games.
-1st in completions (336) and attempts (555)
-26 interceptions (2nd after Luckman (31 in 1947, but , he made the Pro Bowl.)
-76.8 career rating as a Bear (4th behind Kramer (80.7), McMahon (80.4), and Walsh (77.9)), minimum 10 games.
So Ron Turner's offenses hold almost all those records? I see Luckman on there twice, and Jim Mcmahon once, but Kramer, Walsh and the 1993-model Harbaugh were all Ron Turner-coached.
That's less a testament to Ron Turner's offensive brilliance than it is a testament to actually utilizing the forward pass, which few of the non-Turner Bear offenses chose to do. I'm not a big believer in blaming all of the offense's woes on Ron Turner. I'm just not one to give him credit for all of the successes either. He is what he is: mediocre. And I'm not sure Ron Turner would want credit for the 1993 Harbaugh. The 61.5 completion % is nice, but the 7 touchdown passes in 15 starts are not.
DPD.
Harbaugh sucked, but he had a straitjacket on him that year. Pornstedt and Turner didn't trust him (In fairnes, like I said, he did suck). I'm actually stunned to see Harbo (/Ditka) set a record for completion percentage that year because my memory of that season's offense is riddled with giant dinglberries of frustration.
You've got a problem with the 1993 Bears offense? 19th in rushing yards despte being 7th in rushing attempts while dead last in both passing attempts and yardage? Sounds like BEARFOOTBALL to me.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 01:04:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
QuoteBy Dan Arkush
?
At first read, this seems like the most insightful article on the Bears I've read in my entire life. But what would you be willing to bet that Dan? Arkush just interviewed Hub and passed that bald-headed coot off as an "inside source?"
EDIT: A cursory glance at the Arkush Family Tree reveals that Dan is Hub's less-famous brother. Nice gig.
IIRC, Hub's dad is the one who started this local media empire.
Art Arkush is the responsible party. Correct.
I smell bullshit on the "unnamed sources". Especially the ones trashing Urlacher. I'm not defending that moran but are we supposed to believe Urlacher turned the team against Cade McNown? The jackass that was there a year before Urlacher got there and spent a grand total of 9 games on the same field as Brian? That was Big Cat who lead the anti-Cade charge, the same way Thomas Jones and any moron who wondered why the fuck the Bears drafted Cedric Benson "turned" the locker room against Ced, not Urlacher. A lot of the criticisms are valid, but its just another bitter Arkush hack job.
Cade was a turd, but one of the things that bothered me about that period in time was how free people like Williams and Blake Broccoli Flower felt to spout off on him when in reality they were mediocre players on a bad-to-mediocre team and shouldn't have been talking shit about anybody or anything other than their own unique brand of bittersweet awful football. I still remember one game when McNown was on the ground and, instead of helping him up like a teammate, Williams basically rag-dolled him off the turf. The fact that these turdblossoms were comfortable to act like roosters when the entire team should have instead been on alert is yet another example of why I hate how buddy/buddy the media gets with some of these hacktards.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 01:10:35 PM
You've got a problem with the 1993 Bears offense? 19th in rushing yards despte being 7th in rushing attempts while dead last in both passing attempts and yardage? Sounds like BEARFOOTBALL to me.
Things got even better the next year, in 1994, on the 1,456 times Lewis Tillman ran into the scrum at the line of scrimmage for two yards.
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 01:04:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
QuoteBy Dan Arkush
?
At first read, this seems like the most insightful article on the Bears I've read in my entire life. But what would you be willing to bet that Dan? Arkush just interviewed Hub and passed that bald-headed coot off as an "inside source?"
EDIT: A cursory glance at the Arkush Family Tree reveals that Dan is Hub's less-famous brother. Nice gig.
IIRC, Hub's dad is the one who started this local media empire.
Art Arkush is the responsible party. Correct.
I smell bullshit on the "unnamed sources". Especially the ones trashing Urlacher. I'm not defending that moran but are we supposed to believe Urlacher turned the team against Cade McNown? The jackass that was there a year before Urlacher got there and spent a grand total of 9 games on the same field as Brian? That was Big Cat who lead the anti-Cade charge, the same way Thomas Jones and any moron who wondered why the fuck the Bears drafted Cedric Benson "turned" the locker room against Ced, not Urlacher. A lot of the criticisms are valid, but its just another bitter Arkush hack job.
Cade was a turd, but one of the things that bothered me about that period in time was how free people like Williams and Blake Broccoli Flower felt to spout off on him when in reality they were mediocre players on a bad-to-mediocre team and shouldn't have been talking shit about anybody or anything other than their own unique brand of bittersweet awful football. I still remember one game when McNown was on the ground and, instead of helping him up like a teammate, Williams basically rag-dolled him off the turf. The fact that these turdblossoms were comfortable to act like roosters when the entire team should have instead been on alert is yet another example of why I hate how buddy/buddy the media gets with some of these hacktards.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 01:10:35 PM
You've got a problem with the 1993 Bears offense? 19th in rushing yards despte being 7th in rushing attempts while dead last in both passing attempts and yardage? Sounds like BEARFOOTBALL to me.
Things got even better the next year, in 1994, on the 1,456 times Lewis Tillman ran into the scrum at the line of scrimmage for two yards.
]
I remember Lewis Tillman. The 1994 season is the first one I really remember with clarity. I remember bits of 1993. So I had Rick Wilkins and the 1994 Bears to give me false hope for my two favorite sports teams early in life.
Is there a thread on here that you two don't turn into the most depressing turdthread on this board? I know that being a Chicago sports fan comes with a certain self-loathing, but holy fuck.
Stay out of the Blackhawks thread...and Riverdale!
Quote from: Oleg on January 04, 2010, 01:56:17 PM
Is there a thread on here that you two don't turn into the most depressing turdthread on this board? I know that being a Chicago sports fan comes with a certain self-loathing, but holy fuck.
Stay out of the Blackhawks thread...and Riverdale!
I'll stay out of your goddamned ice soccer thread if you stay out of my country you lousy damn cossack.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:00:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 04, 2010, 01:56:17 PM
Is there a thread on here that you two don't turn into the most depressing turdthread on this board? I know that being a Chicago sports fan comes with a certain self-loathing, but holy fuck.
Stay out of the Blackhawks thread...and Riverdale!
I'll stay out of your goddamned ice soccer thread if you stay out of my country you lousy damn cossack.
He just goes under the fence. There's nothing you can do.
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 01:33:48 PM
Cade was a turd, but one of the things that bothered me about that period in time was how free people like Williams and Blake Broccoli Flower felt to spout off on him when in reality they were mediocre players on a bad-to-mediocre team and shouldn't have been talking shit about anybody or anything other than their own unique brand of bittersweet awful football. I still remember one game when McNown was on the ground and, instead of helping him up like a teammate, Williams basically rag-dolled him off the turf. The fact that these turdblossoms were comfortable to act like roosters when the entire team should have instead been on alert is yet another example of why I hate how buddy/buddy the media gets with some of these hacktards.
Fuck that. Far be it from me to discourage your Big Cat HATE, but anybody who wants to can rail on fucking Cade McNown as far as I'm concerned. If Todd Sauerbrun wants to travel back in time and assassinate him, I'd support that douchenozzle.
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:16:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:00:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 04, 2010, 01:56:17 PM
Is there a thread on here that you two don't turn into the most depressing turdthread on this board? I know that being a Chicago sports fan comes with a certain self-loathing, but holy fuck.
Stay out of the Blackhawks thread...and Riverdale!
I'll stay out of your goddamned ice soccer thread if you stay out of my country you lousy damn cossack.
He just goes under the fence. There's nothing you can do.
Because he's short?
Is that what you're saying?
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 01:04:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
Quote from: MAD on January 04, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 04, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
This (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/28/bears-smith-unable-to-handle-wide-ranging-power) article is optimistic.
QuoteBy Dan Arkush
?
At first read, this seems like the most insightful article on the Bears I've read in my entire life. But what would you be willing to bet that Dan? Arkush just interviewed Hub and passed that bald-headed coot off as an "inside source?"
EDIT: A cursory glance at the Arkush Family Tree reveals that Dan is Hub's less-famous brother. Nice gig.
IIRC, Hub's dad is the one who started this local media empire.
Art Arkush is the responsible party. Correct.
I smell bullshit on the "unnamed sources". Especially the ones trashing Urlacher. I'm not defending that moran but are we supposed to believe Urlacher turned the team against Cade McNown? The jackass that was there a year before Urlacher got there and spent a grand total of 9 games on the same field as Brian? That was Big Cat who lead the anti-Cade charge, the same way Thomas Jones and any moron who wondered why the fuck the Bears drafted Cedric Benson "turned" the locker room against Ced, not Urlacher. A lot of the criticisms are valid, but its just another bitter Arkush hack job.
Cade was a turd, but one of the things that bothered me about that period in time was how free people like Williams and Blake Broccoli Flower felt to spout off on him when in reality they were mediocre players on a bad-to-mediocre team and shouldn't have been talking shit about anybody or anything other than their own unique brand of bittersweet awful football. I still remember one game when McNown was on the ground and, instead of helping him up like a teammate, Williams basically rag-dolled him off the turf. The fact that these turdblossoms were comfortable to act like roosters when the entire team should have instead been on alert is yet another example of why I hate how buddy/buddy the media gets with some of these hacktards.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 01:10:35 PM
You've got a problem with the 1993 Bears offense? 19th in rushing yards despte being 7th in rushing attempts while dead last in both passing attempts and yardage? Sounds like BEARFOOTBALL to me.
Things got even better the next year, in 1994, on the 1,456 times Lewis Tillman ran into the scrum at the line of scrimmage for two yards.
I'm starting to get the feeling that you don't like "Big Fat." (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=164.msg1950#msg1950)
Cade McNown: Turd.
Now please stop.
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed irritated should fans of the Texans Giants be?
J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS!'d
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
Fans of the Texans should be pissed at the Texans for losing a home game to the Jets.
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Any fan of any non-playoff AFC team has nothing to be pissed at except the shitty team that they root for for losing handfuls of easily winnable games.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Not very. The Giants burst into flames during the Saints game, and will still be smoldering when training camp opens.
The fact that the Jets caught two tank games is coincidental.
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Wait, are you saying it's wrong for us to feel validated by making snarky comments about teams we don't like when our teams fail? Because that's pretty much what this message board was founded on.
Quote from: CT III on January 04, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Wait, are you saying it's wrong for us to feel validated by making snarky comments about teams we don't like when our teams fail? Because that's pretty much what this message board was founded on.
That's only okay when its the teams I root for as well. No one gives a shit about the Giants or Jets.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 04, 2010, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Any fan of any non-playoff AFC team has nothing to be pissed at except the shitty team that they root for for losing handfuls of easily winnable games.
Some of those teams have to deal with having a distraction in the locker room, with all that raping and all.
Quote from: Yeti on January 04, 2010, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 04, 2010, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Any fan of any non-playoff AFC team has nothing to be pissed at except the shitty team that they root for for losing handfuls of easily winnable games.
Some of those teams have to deal with having a distraction in the locker room, with all that raping and all.
The raping occurred in the locker room?
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 04, 2010, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 04, 2010, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Any fan of any non-playoff AFC team has nothing to be pissed at except the shitty team that they root for for losing handfuls of easily winnable games.
Some of those teams have to deal with having a distraction in the locker room, with all that raping and all.
The raping occurred in the locker room?
NOW WHO RAPES LESS BURGERS?!?
Quote from: BH on January 04, 2010, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 04, 2010, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 04, 2010, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Any fan of any non-playoff AFC team has nothing to be pissed at except the shitty team that they root for for losing handfuls of easily winnable games.
Some of those teams have to deal with having a distraction in the locker room, with all that raping and all.
The raping occurred in the locker room?
You think it didn't?
Quote from: CT III on January 04, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Wait, are you saying it's wrong for us to feel validated by making snarky comments about teams we don't like when our teams fail? Because that's pretty much what this message board was founded on.
This post is on my short list for post of the year.
Quote from: ChuckD on January 04, 2010, 06:02:35 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 04, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Wait, are you saying it's wrong for us to feel validated by making snarky comments about teams we don't like when our teams fail? Because that's pretty much what this message board was founded on.
This post is on my short list for post of the year.
This post is on Fork's list of potential Oleg joke targets.
Quote from: ChuckD on January 04, 2010, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 04, 2010, 06:02:35 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 04, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Wait, are you saying it's wrong for us to feel validated by making snarky comments about teams we don't like when our teams fail? Because that's pretty much what this message board was founded on.
This post is on my short list for post of the year.
This post is on Fork's list of potential Oleg joke targets.
That post was incorrect because Fork doesn't have the restraint to choose "targets" for his Oleg jokes.
Quote from: ChuckD on January 04, 2010, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 04, 2010, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 04, 2010, 06:02:35 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 04, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 04, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 04, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
On an unrelated note, how lucky were the Jets to catch two straight tank jobs, and how pissed should fans of the Texans be?
Very, and very.
How awesome is it that despite your team's epic collapse from a 5-0 start culminating in back to back 41-9 and 44-6 routs, you feel validated by making snarky comments about the Jets "sneaking" into the playoffs?
Wait, are you saying it's wrong for us to feel validated by making snarky comments about teams we don't like when our teams fail? Because that's pretty much what this message board was founded on.
This post is on my short list for post of the year.
This post is on Fork's list of potential Oleg joke targets.
That post was incorrect because Fork doesn't have the restraint to choose "targets" for his Oleg jokes.
What can I say? I'm just nuts over him.
Lovie (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/04/bears-are-expected-to-announce-that-lovie-smith-will-be-back/) back next year.
"Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune reports that Smith is expected to return for 2010, and that "sweeping changes" are not expected to occur after one of the most disappointing seasons in team history, given high preseason expectations.
Here's what we're hearing as to what else will be disclosed on Tuesday.
First, offensive coordinator Ron Turner will be fired, possibly along with the rest of the offensive staff.
Second, we're told that Smith could be losing defensive play-calling duties, with the duties falling to defensive line coach/assistant head coach Rod Marinelli."
Quote from: BH on January 05, 2010, 09:17:51 AM
Lovie (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/04/bears-are-expected-to-announce-that-lovie-smith-will-be-back/) back next year.
"Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune reports that Smith is expected to return for 2010, and that "sweeping changes" are not expected to occur after one of the most disappointing seasons in team history, given high preseason expectations.
Here's what we're hearing as to what else will be disclosed on Tuesday.
First, offensive coordinator Ron Turner will be fired, possibly along with the rest of the offensive staff.
Second, we're told that Smith could be losing defensive play-calling duties, with the duties falling to defensive line coach/assistant head coach Rod Marinelli."
Why don't the Bears just hire Jim Zorn and be done with it?
Quote from: BH on January 05, 2010, 09:17:51 AM
Lovie (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/04/bears-are-expected-to-announce-that-lovie-smith-will-be-back/) back next year.
"Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune reports that Smith is expected to return for 2010, and that "sweeping changes" are not expected to occur after one of the most disappointing seasons in team history, given high preseason expectations.
Here's what we're hearing as to what else will be disclosed on Tuesday.
First, offensive coordinator Ron Turner will be fired, possibly along with the rest of the offensive staff.
Second, we're told that Smith could be losing defensive play-calling duties, with the duties falling to defensive line coach/assistant head coach Rod Marinelli."
Firing the entire offensive coaching staff and taking defensive play calling duties from the Head Coach doesn't constitute "sweeping changes"?
Sweeping under the rug maybe.
So as we feared, Cutler WILL have 4 OC's in 4 years between Denver and Chicago. Angelo WILL get to ruin one more truncated draft and Lovie WILL get to coach a lame duck season in which he'll have very little weight or authority behind his decisions. The McCaskey's WILL avoid spending the money to fix their problems and I WILL start spending money to attend games on my family's season ticket package (lean years behind me, thank Athie).
What in the hell am I doing in this town with this team run by these people?
nice choice pex.
Quote from: Fork on January 05, 2010, 09:36:32 AM
Quote from: BH on January 05, 2010, 09:17:51 AM
Lovie (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/04/bears-are-expected-to-announce-that-lovie-smith-will-be-back/) back next year.
"Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune reports that Smith is expected to return for 2010, and that "sweeping changes" are not expected to occur after one of the most disappointing seasons in team history, given high preseason expectations.
Here's what we're hearing as to what else will be disclosed on Tuesday.
First, offensive coordinator Ron Turner will be fired, possibly along with the rest of the offensive staff.
Second, we're told that Smith could be losing defensive play-calling duties, with the duties falling to defensive line coach/assistant head coach Rod Marinelli."
Firing the entire offensive coaching staff and taking defensive play calling duties from the Head Coach doesn't constitute "sweeping changes"?
De onlee changes dat matter is if dey get rid of dose losers Smit, Angerlo, Fillips and McCHEAPSKY (LOL) and bring back da coach!
The Bears don't have any high draft picks next year for a new regime to use or for the current regime to screw up. The only reason to fire Loive and Angelo now is if you think a replacement will prevent Jay Cutler from being destroyed. There's no one else on this team that they can harm.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 05, 2010, 09:42:02 AM
The Bears don't have any high draft picks next year for a new regime to use or for the current regime to screw up. The only reason to fire Loive and Angelo now is if you think a replacement will prevent Jay Cutler from being destroyed. There's no one else on this team that they can harm.
So just the franchise quarterback they've paid 30 Mil to? Well fuck it then!
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/bears-fire-offensive-coordinator-ron-turner.html
Turner fired. Yay.
QuoteAlso, the Bears are expected to name assistant Rod Marinelli the defensive coordinator, according to a source. He will relieve head coach Lovie Smith of those duties.
Guh.
So, a look at the next several years for the Bears:
1. Placeholder OC is hired for 2010
2. Team performs in a mediocre fashion in 2010-2011
3. Lovie is fired after 2010, Cowher is hired
4. Cowher brings in his own personnel man
5. Strike wipes out 2011 season
6. Cowher starts fresh in 2012 with almost a completely new team.
Sounds like...whatever.
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
So, a look at the next several years for the Bears:
1. Placeholder OC is hired for 2010
2. Team performs in a mediocre fashion in 2010-2011
3. Lovie is fired after 2010, Cowher is hired
4. Cowher brings in his own personnel man
5. Strike wipes out 2011 season
6. Cowher starts fresh in 2012 with almost a completely new team.
Sounds like...whatever.
Nobody's going on strike. That's retarded.
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 05, 2010, 10:46:04 AM
QuoteAlso, the Bears are expected to name assistant Rod Marinelli the defensive coordinator, according to a source. He will relieve head coach Lovie Smith of those duties.
And with Marinelli moving to defensive coordinator, I guess his old buddy Joe Cullen from Detroit is going to become the d-line coach.
Yes. That Joe Cullen.
QuoteCullen was arrested and charged with indecent and obscene conduct Aug. 24, the night before the Lions' third exhibition at Oakland. A worker at a Dearborn fast-food drive-thru window saw him naked behind the wheel of his SUV and called the police, according to police reports.
Quote from: Eli on January 05, 2010, 11:18:08 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 05, 2010, 10:46:04 AM
QuoteAlso, the Bears are expected to name assistant Rod Marinelli the defensive coordinator, according to a source. He will relieve head coach Lovie Smith of those duties.
And with Marinelli moving to defensive coordinator, I guess his old buddy Joe Cullen from Detroit is going to become the d-line coach.
Yes. That Joe Cullen.
QuoteCullen was arrested and charged with indecent and obscene conduct Aug. 24, the night before the Lions' third exhibition at Oakland. A worker at a Dearborn fast-food drive-thru window saw him naked behind the wheel of his SUV and called the police, according to police reports.
(http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/071031/071031_kitna_vlg_4p.widec.jpg)
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 05, 2010, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
So, a look at the next several years for the Bears:
1. Placeholder OC is hired for 2010
2. Team performs in a mediocre fashion in 2010-2011
3. Lovie is fired after 2010, Cowher is hired
4. Cowher brings in his own personnel man
5. Strike wipes out 2011 season
6. Cowher starts fresh in 2012 with almost a completely new team.
Sounds like...whatever.
Nobody's going on strike. That's retarded.
youre right. I mistyped. It'll be a lockout.
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 05, 2010, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
So, a look at the next several years for the Bears:
1. Placeholder OC is hired for 2010
2. Team performs in a mediocre fashion in 2010-2011
3. Lovie is fired after 2010, Cowher is hired
4. Cowher brings in his own personnel man
5. Strike wipes out 2011 season
6. Cowher starts fresh in 2012 with almost a completely new team.
Sounds like...whatever.
Nobody's going on strike. That's retarded.
youre right. I mistyped. It'll be a lockout.
It'll be neither. No matter what Peter King tells you. These people know how to count money and they're not about to shut their business down for a year and take the unfathomable PR hit that would be associated with any workstoppage involving a major sport. Not. Gonna. Hai.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 05, 2010, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 05, 2010, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
So, a look at the next several years for the Bears:
1. Placeholder OC is hired for 2010
2. Team performs in a mediocre fashion in 2010-2011
3. Lovie is fired after 2010, Cowher is hired
4. Cowher brings in his own personnel man
5. Strike wipes out 2011 season
6. Cowher starts fresh in 2012 with almost a completely new team.
Sounds like...whatever.
Nobody's going on strike. That's retarded.
youre right. I mistyped. It'll be a lockout.
It'll be neither. No matter what Peter King tells you. These people know how to count money and they're not about to shut their business down for a year and take the unfathomable PR hit that would be associated with any workstoppage involving a major sport. Not. Gonna. Hai.
PR hit, yeah. But the NBC and Directv money is guaranteed regardless of whether they play or not. While Peter King is and always will be a dope, I think they'll be at least a minor work stoppage sometime in 2011.
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 05, 2010, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 05, 2010, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 05, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
So, a look at the next several years for the Bears:
1. Placeholder OC is hired for 2010
2. Team performs in a mediocre fashion in 2010-2011
3. Lovie is fired after 2010, Cowher is hired
4. Cowher brings in his own personnel man
5. Strike wipes out 2011 season
6. Cowher starts fresh in 2012 with almost a completely new team.
Sounds like...whatever.
Nobody's going on strike. That's retarded.
youre right. I mistyped. It'll be a lockout.
It'll be neither. No matter what Peter King tells you. These people know how to count money and they're not about to shut their business down for a year and take the unfathomable PR hit that would be associated with any workstoppage involving a major sport. Not. Gonna. Hai.
PR hit, yeah. But the NBC and Directv money is guaranteed regardless of whether they play or not. While Peter King is and always will be a dope, I think they'll be at least a minor work stoppage sometime in 2011.
The NFLPA is as toothless as Keith Tkachuk. They've got no negotiating leverage. The owners make money hand over fist, and don't want to shelve their product in order to allow revenue from ticket sales, esp. corporate boxes, to be diverted elsewhere.
They won't even open training camp late.
That might be true if the owners weren't the ones driving the potential lockout.
They want the system blown up. And yes, they make lots of money under the current system...but here's something shocking...they want more.
Quote from: Andy on January 05, 2010, 01:44:49 PM
That might be true if the owners weren't the ones driving the potential lockout.
They want the system blown up. And yes, they make lots of money under the current system...but here's something shocking...they want more.
True the owners want more money, but on the flipside, I can't imagine Jerry Jones would be willing to let his 100,000 seat palace sit empty for any amount of time.
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 05, 2010, 01:51:55 PM
Quote from: Andy on January 05, 2010, 01:44:49 PM
That might be true if the owners weren't the ones driving the potential lockout.
They want the system blown up. And yes, they make lots of money under the current system...but here's something shocking...they want more.
True the owners want more money, but on the flipside, I can't imagine Jerry Jones would be willing to let his 100,000 seat palace sit empty for any amount of time.
Most of the others have public financing for their stadia. Like here.
In fact, given the money that Jones makes outside the revenue sharing, there are plenty of other owners who would be very happy to see Jones get assrammed.
Angelo just said he wouldn't change any of his decisions, that he still thinks they were the right ones, but then he admitted they didn't work. But he wouldn't change anything though. Why is he still employed?
DPD. "We'll do a better job. New coaches. New energy. We'll do a little bit better in personnel evaluations. It's really hard to self-evaluate. Really hard to do."
"It doesn't mean we don't have a bad roster. We're not going to sit here and throw stones at the roster."
How can you not be optimistic about Bears football? SUPER BOWL HERE WE COME!
Quote from: Andy on January 05, 2010, 01:44:49 PM
That might be true if the owners weren't the ones driving the potential lockout.
They want the system blown up. And yes, they make lots of money under the current system...but here's something shocking...they want more.
But since they have all the leverage, they should be able to get what they want without having to close up shop, no?
Quote from: C-C-Cats on January 05, 2010, 02:26:18 PM
Angelo just said he wouldn't change any of his decisions, that he still thinks they were the right ones, but then he admitted they didn't work. But he wouldn't change anything though. Why is he still employed?
I liked when he said the job is one of constant evolvement.
Quote from: C-C-Cats on January 05, 2010, 02:26:18 PM
Angelo just said he wouldn't change any of his decisions, that he still thinks they were the right ones, but then he admitted they didn't work. But he wouldn't change anything though. Why is he still employed?
Not even Dan Bazuin?
Quote from: CT III on January 05, 2010, 02:48:15 PM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on January 05, 2010, 02:26:18 PM
Angelo just said he wouldn't change any of his decisions, that he still thinks they were the right ones, but then he admitted they didn't work. But he wouldn't change anything though. Why is he still employed?
Not even Dan Bazuin?
You shoulda seen the tape on him from Central Michigan. He was a monster!
Did Lovie just use Green Bay as an example of why a team should stick with its defensive scheme even if it's struggling? The same Green Bay that switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in the offseason?
Quote from: Eli on January 05, 2010, 03:00:41 PM
Did Lovie just use Green Bay as an example of why a team should stick with its defensive scheme even if it's struggling? The same Green Bay that switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in the offseason?
And they stuck with it for 16 straight games, dammit.
How the hell did Darryl Drake not get canned?
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2010, 04:30:14 PM
How the hell did Darryl Drake not get canned?
Clearly you haven't read his bio on the Bears website.
QuoteDrake's significant experience as a collegiate tutor of wide receivers has served him well during his time with the Bears as he worked with young receiving corps in each of his first five seasons in Chicago. Throughout his tenure he has helped developed such young talent at the receiver position as Rashied Davis, Devin Hester, Mark Bradley, Justin Gage and Bernard Berrian.
Perry Fewell to be named new Bears DC (http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/7418834718)
Quote from: PenFoe on January 05, 2010, 05:17:05 PM
Perry Fewell to be named new Bears DC (http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/7418834718)
Edited to include the "SKO loves the Tampa 2" Rotoworld Analysis:
Quote
It's a great fit. Fewell is one of the few coaches still running a Cover 2, so he'll mesh well with Lovie Smith. Having Fewell's expertise in the secondary to go with Rod Marinelli on the defensive line would give Chicago one of the best teaching staffs in the league.
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2010, 04:30:14 PM
How the hell did Darryl Drake not get canned?
They are running a bumper on the Score naming all the guys who got fired and one of them was the assistant wide receivers coach. I had no idea such a position existed.
Quote from: CT III on January 05, 2010, 07:15:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2010, 04:30:14 PM
How the hell did Darryl Drake not get canned?
They are running a bumper on the Score naming all the guys who got fired and one of them was the assistant wide receivers coach. I had no idea such a position existed.
I heard the same thing and was surprised not only to hear they had an assistant wide receivers coach, but that he was the only one they let go. I guess he was the one responsible for Knox and Hester's fuck ups, not Drake.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4799863
QuoteFormer Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears.
...
Former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz also said he "absolutely" would be interested in replacing Turner.
...
Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is believed to be lobbying hard for ex-Denver Broncos quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who spent last season calling plays for USC.
They've already invested so much in Cutler, just give him what he wants.
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2010, 09:36:11 PM
They've already invested so much in Cutler, just give him what he wants.
Jerseys with collars so he can "pop" 'em?
Quote from: JD on January 05, 2010, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2010, 09:36:11 PM
They've already invested so much in Cutler, just give him what he wants.
Jerseys with collars so he can "pop" 'em?
Like this?
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/39/397717.jpg)
The aftermath of this season is like watching the French Revolution unfold. We are the crowd watching the tumbrels roll by.
Quote from: CBStew on January 06, 2010, 09:02:09 AM
The aftermath of this season is like watching the French Revolution unfold. We are the crowd watching the tumbrels roll by.
Speaking from experience?
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.
You explained why Martz was bad to me. Why's Weis bad? Besides his frontbutt weighing more than BH. (I'm not an advocate of Weis. Just curious. Someone earlier said give Jay what he wants... I'm not opposed to that notion at all)
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.
You explained why Martz was bad to me. Why's Weis bad? Besides his frontbutt weighing more than BH. (I'm not an advocate of Weis. Just curious. Someone earlier said give Jay what he wants... I'm not opposed to that notion at all)
Weis' offense is nothing special. The Patriots actually improved after he left when McDaniels added elements of the spread to it. It's just a modified West Coast offense, and it's not particularly well-suited to Cutler's skills. The biggest problem, however, is that he thinks he's some kind of guru and will naturally value "the system" over the players, meaning he won't adapt and he'll point fingers. That's not a good thing for a team with a quarterback that also has some confrontational tendencies.
The Bears don't need a system, they need blocking.
Quote from: Fork on January 06, 2010, 09:53:15 AM
The Bears don't need a system, they need blocking.
Or perhaps they need both. Tell me, oh mighty sage.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.
You explained why Martz was bad to me. Why's Weis bad? Besides his frontbutt weighing more than BH. (I'm not an advocate of Weis. Just curious. Someone earlier said give Jay what he wants... I'm not opposed to that notion at all)
Weis' offense is nothing special. The Patriots actually improved after he left when McDaniels added elements of the spread to it. It's just a modified West Coast offense, and it's not particularly well-suited to Cutler's skills. The biggest problem, however, is that he thinks he's some kind of guru and will naturally value "the system" over the players, meaning he won't adapt and he'll point fingers. That's not a good thing for a team with a quarterback that also has some confrontational tendencies.
Alright. Fair enough. So, fuck Charlie
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:55:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 06, 2010, 09:53:15 AM
The Bears don't need a system, they need blocking.
Or perhaps they need both. Tell me, oh mighty sage.
They need to establish the run in order to make play action more effective.
Quote from: Fork on January 06, 2010, 10:12:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:55:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 06, 2010, 09:53:15 AM
The Bears don't need a system, they need blocking.
Or perhaps they need both. Tell me, oh mighty sage.
They need to establish the run in order to make play action more effective.
They need to stop tolerating all this bullshit.
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 10:01:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.
You explained why Martz was bad to me. Why's Weis bad? Besides his frontbutt weighing more than BH. (I'm not an advocate of Weis. Just curious. Someone earlier said give Jay what he wants... I'm not opposed to that notion at all)
Weis' offense is nothing special. The Patriots actually improved after he left when McDaniels added elements of the spread to it. It's just a modified West Coast offense, and it's not particularly well-suited to Cutler's skills. The biggest problem, however, is that he thinks he's some kind of guru and will naturally value "the system" over the players, meaning he won't adapt and he'll point fingers. That's not a good thing for a team with a quarterback that also has some confrontational tendencies.
Alright. Fair enough. So, fuck Charlie
In all honesty I was hoping Gary Kubiak would get canned by the Texans and by some magical circumstance end up with the Bears. I'd also like to see them introduce a zone blocking scheme. These are all pipe dreams of course, but I've got nothing left. I'd take Bates, I've heard good things about him as a quarterback's coach, and I've liked the Shannahan scheme since the Elway days. I'd also take Jim Zorn if he's willing to settle for being a QB coach again, because he's actually gotten some good reviews in that job. It's not his fault that Dan Snyder's such a moron that he hired a guy to be an offensive coordinator for the first time and then decided to just throw the head coach and qb coach job at him for the hell of it.
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 10:01:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.
You explained why Martz was bad to me. Why's Weis bad? Besides his frontbutt weighing more than BH. (I'm not an advocate of Weis. Just curious. Someone earlier said give Jay what he wants... I'm not opposed to that notion at all)
Weis' offense is nothing special. The Patriots actually improved after he left when McDaniels added elements of the spread to it. It's just a modified West Coast offense, and it's not particularly well-suited to Cutler's skills. The biggest problem, however, is that he thinks he's some kind of guru and will naturally value "the system" over the players, meaning he won't adapt and he'll point fingers. That's not a good thing for a team with a quarterback that also has some confrontational tendencies.
Alright. Fair enough. So, fuck Charlie
Crisis averted (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526) (assuming you thought this would have been a bad move).
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2010, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 10:01:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.
You explained why Martz was bad to me. Why's Weis bad? Besides his frontbutt weighing more than BH. (I'm not an advocate of Weis. Just curious. Someone earlier said give Jay what he wants... I'm not opposed to that notion at all)
Weis' offense is nothing special. The Patriots actually improved after he left when McDaniels added elements of the spread to it. It's just a modified West Coast offense, and it's not particularly well-suited to Cutler's skills. The biggest problem, however, is that he thinks he's some kind of guru and will naturally value "the system" over the players, meaning he won't adapt and he'll point fingers. That's not a good thing for a team with a quarterback that also has some confrontational tendencies.
Alright. Fair enough. So, fuck Charlie
Crisis averted (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526) (assuming you thought this would have been a bad move).
Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2010, 10:02:29 PM
Quote from: JD on January 05, 2010, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2010, 09:36:11 PM
They've already invested so much in Cutler, just give him what he wants.
Jerseys with collars so he can "pop" 'em?
Like this?
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/39/397717.jpg)
No. That jersey's not pink.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2010, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 10:01:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:
QuoteBears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.
Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.
You explained why Martz was bad to me. Why's Weis bad? Besides his frontbutt weighing more than BH. (I'm not an advocate of Weis. Just curious. Someone earlier said give Jay what he wants... I'm not opposed to that notion at all)
Weis' offense is nothing special. The Patriots actually improved after he left when McDaniels added elements of the spread to it. It's just a modified West Coast offense, and it's not particularly well-suited to Cutler's skills. The biggest problem, however, is that he thinks he's some kind of guru and will naturally value "the system" over the players, meaning he won't adapt and he'll point fingers. That's not a good thing for a team with a quarterback that also has some confrontational tendencies.
Alright. Fair enough. So, fuck Charlie
Crisis averted (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526) (assuming you thought this would have been a bad move).
Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.
That's where my mind grapes go.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.
So Weis' three Super Bowl rings shouldn't count toward a sense of accomplishment?
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.
So Weis' three Super Bowl rings shouldn't count toward a sense of accomplishment?
All depends on whether you think he contributed to the team or was a high paid water boy.
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.
So Weis' three Super Bowl rings shouldn't count toward a sense of accomplishment?
Yeah. Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini should be proud of themselves, too. Given that the Patriots have more or less gone on the same without them (except for Weis' offense, which was completely overhauled into the closest thing the NFL has to a pure spread offense and became the most prolific offense in NFL history without him), and all of their successes are the result of Belichick and an outstanding draft strategy, and that all three have failed to accomplish anything of note on their own, I'd say that "Weis'" Super Bowl rings add up to a fat load of nothing.
Quote from: Oleg on January 06, 2010, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: CBStew on January 06, 2010, 09:02:09 AM
The aftermath of this season is like watching the French Revolution unfold. We are the crowd watching the tumbrels roll by.
Speaking from experience?
Is that an old joke?
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 08:03:28 PM
Yeah. Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini should be proud of themselves, too. Given that the Patriots have more or less gone on the same without them (except for Weis' offense, which was completely overhauled into the closest thing the NFL has to a pure spread offense and became the most prolific offense in NFL history without him), and all of their successes are the result of Belichick and an outstanding draft strategy, and that all three have failed to accomplish anything of note on their own, I'd say that "Weis'" Super Bowl rings add up to a fat load of nothing.
Going with the obvious here.
Quote from: CBStew on January 06, 2010, 08:43:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 06, 2010, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: CBStew on January 06, 2010, 09:02:09 AM
The aftermath of this season is like watching the French Revolution unfold. We are the crowd watching the tumbrels roll by.
Speaking from experience?
Is that an old joke?
Yeah, I've heard it hundreds of times.
Quote from: Pre on January 06, 2010, 07:55:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2010, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.
So Weis' three Super Bowl rings shouldn't count toward a sense of accomplishment?
All depends on whether you think he contributed to the team or was a high paid water boy.
Weis along with the rest of them were riding on the coattails of Bill Belichick.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 09:55:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 06, 2010, 09:53:15 AM
The Bears don't need a system, they need blocking.
Or perhaps they need both. Tell me, oh mighty sage.
Seriously, if they don't revamp the O-line, any "system" they put in place is useless.
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 08:03:28 PM
except for Weis' offense, which was completely overhauled into the closest thing the NFL has to a pure spread offense and became the most prolific offense in NFL history without him after they added Randy Moss and Wes Welker
Someone to throw to'd.
Not saying you're entirely wrong, but I don't think you can completely discredit a guy who was the offensive coordinator for three Super Bowl winners. He's a terrible head coach for a lot of reasons, but I think he knows how to run an offense pretty well.
After re-reading this, it has all of the factual backing of a Fork argument, but I'm going to post it anyway.
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
So do the Bears still get off the bus running the football? If Martz is the guy, I would expect the Bears to go after a receiver or two, no? They'd need someone else besides the current crop - there aren't five capable receivers on this roster.
Jesus - this is all too weird. Does anyone run the 5-wide shit anymore?
Quote from: Slack-E on January 07, 2010, 08:55:16 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
So do the Bears still get off the bus running the football? If Martz is the guy, I would expect the Bears to go after a receiver or two, no? They'd need someone else besides the current crop - there aren't five capable receivers on this roster.
Jesus - this is all too weird. Does anyone run the 5-wide shit anymore?
Ted Phillips denied this on the Score this morning. God I hope he wasn't lying.
Quote from: Tony on January 07, 2010, 09:24:52 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 07, 2010, 08:55:16 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
So do the Bears still get off the bus running the football? If Martz is the guy, I would expect the Bears to go after a receiver or two, no? They'd need someone else besides the current crop - there aren't five capable receivers on this roster.
Jesus - this is all too weird. Does anyone run the 5-wide shit anymore?
Ted Phillips denied this on the Score this morning. God I hope he wasn't lying.
I only heard part of his talk.. The part I heard was entertaining to say the least. When talking about Lovie not changing his scheme, he alluded to the fact that changing the scheme only means going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and that's it.
Quote from: Eli on January 07, 2010, 08:40:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2010, 08:03:28 PM
except for Weis' offense, which was completely overhauled into the closest thing the NFL has to a pure spread offense and became the most prolific offense in NFL history without him after they added Randy Moss and Wes Welker
Someone to throw to'd.
Not saying you're entirely wrong, but I don't think you can completely discredit a guy who was the offensive coordinator for three Super Bowl winners. He's a terrible head coach for a lot of reasons, but I think he knows how to run an offense pretty well.
After re-reading this, it has all of the factual backing of a Fork argument, but I'm going to post it anyway.
I still think that Weis is actually a good quarterbacks coach, which would certainly make him a big, fat part of the offensive success.
How he's a good quarterbacks coach, I have no idea.
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 07, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
How he's a good quarterbacks coach, I have no idea.
Volume! [/fork]
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
Well now what? I don't like the idea of Martz being the offensive coordinator, but then there is the prospect of this rant.
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 07, 2010, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
Well now what? I don't like the idea of Martz being the offensive coordinator, but then there is the prospect of this rant.
Mike Martz's offense combined with Lovie Smith's Tampa 2 defense? I'm for it. It's about time the Bears dragged their philosophy into the late 90's.
Mike Martz is awesome.
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
The Bears have fast WR's and a gun slinging QB. That worked well for Martz before.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 09, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
The Bears have fast WR's and a gun slinging QB. That worked well for Martz before.
The T formation worked well before too. Or did you forget?
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 09, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
The Bears have fast WR's and a gun slinging QB. That worked well for Martz before.
The T formation worked well before too. Or did you forget?
Never.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 09, 2010, 10:22:11 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 09, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
The Bears have fast WR's and a gun slinging QB. That worked well for Martz before.
The T formation worked well before too. Or did you forget?
Never.
I'll never forget the way they thrilled the nation with it.
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 09, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
The Bears have fast WR's and a gun slinging QB. That worked well for Martz before.
The T formation worked well before too. Or did you forget?
Fast WR's and a gun slinging QB
and a great offensive line are working in Minnesota.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 10, 2010, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 09, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
The Bears have fast WR's and a gun slinging QB. That worked well for Martz before.
The T formation worked well before too. Or did you forget?
Fast WR's and a gun slinging QB and a great offensive line are working in Minnesota.
You're confusing fast with good.
Quote from: Slack-E on January 10, 2010, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 10, 2010, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 09, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the “Bearly legal Show” on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
“He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it’s a done deal” states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
The Bears have fast WR's and a gun slinging QB. That worked well for Martz before.
The T formation worked well before too. Or did you forget?
Fast WR's and a gun slinging QB and a great offensive line are working in Minnesota.
You're confusing fast with good.
No Martz is a genius. His idea of having fast players is way smarter than all the other coaches who prefer slow players.
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2010, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 10, 2010, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 10, 2010, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 09, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER (http://www.footballnewsshare.com/65166-mike-martz-to-be-hired-as-offensive-coordinator-for-the-chicago-bears/)
QuoteMike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears.
Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.
"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.
Since its not on Profootballtalk, and since Phillips denied it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the moment. But if they hire Mike Martz, I promise you all the greatest rant in the history of rants. Rants about Mike Martz being the Bears offensive coordinator, that is.
The Bears have fast WR's and a gun slinging QB. That worked well for Martz before.
The T formation worked well before too. Or did you forget?
Fast WR's and a gun slinging QB and a great offensive line are working in Minnesota.
You're confusing fast with good.
No Martz is a genius. His idea of having fast players is way smarter than all the other coaches who prefer slow players.
He and AngeLove are made for one another. How could this not come true?
I have no doubt that his speed based offense will thrive on the worst field in the league.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/sources-bates-will-go-with-carroll-to-seattle.html
QuoteThe Bears have been informed that Jeremy Bates, who was scheduled to interview for their offensive coordinator's job, has decided to accept the same job with Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks, two sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen on Sunday evening.
SKO can probably start writing up that epic Martz rant he promised us.
Quote from: Eli on January 11, 2010, 10:10:37 AM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/sources-bates-will-go-with-carroll-to-seattle.html
QuoteThe Bears have been informed that Jeremy Bates, who was scheduled to interview for their offensive coordinator's job, has decided to accept the same job with Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks, two sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen on Sunday evening.
SKO can probably start writing up that epic Martz rant he promised us.
Linking to my own blog just to piss Tdubbs off:
http://startkyleorton.blogspot.com/2010/01/mike-martz-would-utterly-freaking.html
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2010, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 11, 2010, 10:10:37 AM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/sources-bates-will-go-with-carroll-to-seattle.html
QuoteThe Bears have been informed that Jeremy Bates, who was scheduled to interview for their offensive coordinator's job, has decided to accept the same job with Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks, two sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen on Sunday evening.
SKO can probably start writing up that epic Martz rant he promised us.
Linking to my own blog just to piss Tdubbs off:
http://startkyleorton.blogspot.com/2010/01/mike-martz-would-utterly-freaking.html
I didn't even know you had a blog.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 11, 2010, 10:25:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2010, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 11, 2010, 10:10:37 AM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/sources-bates-will-go-with-carroll-to-seattle.html
QuoteThe Bears have been informed that Jeremy Bates, who was scheduled to interview for their offensive coordinator's job, has decided to accept the same job with Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks, two sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen on Sunday evening.
SKO can probably start writing up that epic Martz rant he promised us.
Linking to my own blog just to piss Tdubbs off:
http://startkyleorton.blogspot.com/2010/01/mike-martz-would-utterly-freaking.html
I didn't even know you had a blog.
I don't.
Packers block Bears' request to talk to QB coach Tom Clements:
QuoteCross Green Bay Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clement's name off the list of potential offensive coordinators for the Chicago Bears.
As expected, the Packers denied the Bears' request to speak with Clements about the opening, a league source confirmed Monday night. Even though going from position coach to coordinator is a major promotion in the coaching ranks, teams are allowed to block their assistants from interviewing for other positions, unless that position is head coach.
Other possible candidates, according to the Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1985516,CST-SPT-bear12.article):
QuoteBut there are believed to be other candidates in the mix, including two quarterbacks coaches. Bill Musgrave of the Falcons and Paul Hackett of the Raiders could be options for the Bears, along with former Vikings coach Mike Tice. Musgrave has been instrumental in the quick transition of Matt Ryan, while Hackett has a varied background that includes head-coaching stints at the University of Pittsburgh and USC.
It's unclear, though, what job Tice would fill because, in addition to offensive coordinator, the Bears are looking for assistants to coach the offensive line, tight ends and quarterbacks. He has never been an offensive coordinator, although he has been successful with offensive linemen and tight ends.
Seems like a decent chance they'll wind up with a coordinator who's worse than Turner. Nice choice, Jerry.
Mike Tice would make the meatball fanbase look like a bunch of Richard Simmonses. Good gord I'm hopping off the bandwagon for next year if that canned-ham-on-shoulders is actually the Bears' OC next year.
Quote from: Eli on January 12, 2010, 08:59:32 AM
Packers block Bears' request to talk to QB coach Tom Clements:
QuoteCross Green Bay Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clement's name off the list of potential offensive coordinators for the Chicago Bears.
As expected, the Packers denied the Bears' request to speak with Clements about the opening, a league source confirmed Monday night. Even though going from position coach to coordinator is a major promotion in the coaching ranks, teams are allowed to block their assistants from interviewing for other positions, unless that position is head coach.
Other possible candidates, according to the Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1985516,CST-SPT-bear12.article):
QuoteBut there are believed to be other candidates in the mix, including two quarterbacks coaches. Bill Musgrave of the Falcons and Paul Hackett of the Raiders could be options for the Bears, along with former Vikings coach Mike Tice. Musgrave has been instrumental in the quick transition of Matt Ryan, while Hackett has a varied background that includes head-coaching stints at the University of Pittsburgh and USC.
It's unclear, though, what job Tice would fill because, in addition to offensive coordinator, the Bears are looking for assistants to coach the offensive line, tight ends and quarterbacks. He has never been an offensive coordinator, although he has been successful with offensive linemen and tight ends.
Seems like a decent chance they'll wind up with a coordinator who's worse than Turner. Nice choice, Jerry.
At this point they may as well take the guy from the University of Minnesota. He's cheap, he's worked with Cutler before, and anyone with an established NFL job that's willing to take a chance on getting canned after one year with the Bears is probably a moron.
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2010, 09:13:22 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 12, 2010, 08:59:32 AM
Packers block Bears' request to talk to QB coach Tom Clements:
QuoteCross Green Bay Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clement's name off the list of potential offensive coordinators for the Chicago Bears.
As expected, the Packers denied the Bears' request to speak with Clements about the opening, a league source confirmed Monday night. Even though going from position coach to coordinator is a major promotion in the coaching ranks, teams are allowed to block their assistants from interviewing for other positions, unless that position is head coach.
Other possible candidates, according to the Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1985516,CST-SPT-bear12.article):
QuoteBut there are believed to be other candidates in the mix, including two quarterbacks coaches. Bill Musgrave of the Falcons and Paul Hackett of the Raiders could be options for the Bears, along with former Vikings coach Mike Tice. Musgrave has been instrumental in the quick transition of Matt Ryan, while Hackett has a varied background that includes head-coaching stints at the University of Pittsburgh and USC.
It's unclear, though, what job Tice would fill because, in addition to offensive coordinator, the Bears are looking for assistants to coach the offensive line, tight ends and quarterbacks. He has never been an offensive coordinator, although he has been successful with offensive linemen and tight ends.
Seems like a decent chance they'll wind up with a coordinator who's worse than Turner. Nice choice, Jerry.
At this point they may as well take the guy from the University of Minnesota. He's cheap, he's worked with Cutler before, and anyone with an established NFL job that's willing to take a chance on getting canned after one year with the Bears is probably a moron.
Probably a moron.....or maybe a power hungry, pass happy, former head coach who would love to undermine the current coach and weasel his way into the job.
Quote from: Tony on January 12, 2010, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2010, 09:13:22 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 12, 2010, 08:59:32 AM
Packers block Bears' request to talk to QB coach Tom Clements:
QuoteCross Green Bay Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clement's name off the list of potential offensive coordinators for the Chicago Bears.
As expected, the Packers denied the Bears' request to speak with Clements about the opening, a league source confirmed Monday night. Even though going from position coach to coordinator is a major promotion in the coaching ranks, teams are allowed to block their assistants from interviewing for other positions, unless that position is head coach.
Other possible candidates, according to the Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1985516,CST-SPT-bear12.article):
QuoteBut there are believed to be other candidates in the mix, including two quarterbacks coaches. Bill Musgrave of the Falcons and Paul Hackett of the Raiders could be options for the Bears, along with former Vikings coach Mike Tice. Musgrave has been instrumental in the quick transition of Matt Ryan, while Hackett has a varied background that includes head-coaching stints at the University of Pittsburgh and USC.
It's unclear, though, what job Tice would fill because, in addition to offensive coordinator, the Bears are looking for assistants to coach the offensive line, tight ends and quarterbacks. He has never been an offensive coordinator, although he has been successful with offensive linemen and tight ends.
Seems like a decent chance they'll wind up with a coordinator who's worse than Turner. Nice choice, Jerry.
At this point they may as well take the guy from the University of Minnesota. He's cheap, he's worked with Cutler before, and anyone with an established NFL job that's willing to take a chance on getting canned after one year with the Bears is probably a moron.
Probably a moron.....or maybe a power hungry, pass happy, former head coach who would love to undermine the current coach and weasel his way into the job.
I agree. Rod Marinelli is a menace.
DPD, I guess. The Bears are supposedly looking (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/zampese-emerges-as-bears-offensive-coordinator-candidate/) at Ken Zampese, the QB coach for the Bengals, as a possible offensive coordinator. In case you were wondering, yes, he did work with Lovie in St. Louis. One rumor is that Martz recommended the Bears hire Zampese, meaning that Lovie's obviously figured out that Martz would be an unpopular hire, but he's determined to get that system for the Bears anyways since it won a Superbowl, once, ya know, just like the Tampa Two did, so it's got to be a good system. I hate this fucking team.
Quote from: SKO on January 13, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
DPD, I guess. The Bears are supposedly looking (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/zampese-emerges-as-bears-offensive-coordinator-candidate/) at Ken Zampese, the QB coach for the Bengals, as a possible offensive coordinator. In case you were wondering, yes, he did work with Lovie in St. Louis. One rumor is that Martz recommended the Bears hire Zampese, meaning that Lovie's obviously figured out that Martz would be an unpopular hire, but he's determined to get that system for the Bears anyways since it won a Superbowl, once, ya know, just like the Tampa Two did, so it's got to be a good system. I hate this fucking team.
They'd be better off with Ernie Zampese.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 13, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 13, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
DPD, I guess. The Bears are supposedly looking (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/zampese-emerges-as-bears-offensive-coordinator-candidate/) at Ken Zampese, the QB coach for the Bengals, as a possible offensive coordinator. In case you were wondering, yes, he did work with Lovie in St. Louis. One rumor is that Martz recommended the Bears hire Zampese, meaning that Lovie's obviously figured out that Martz would be an unpopular hire, but he's determined to get that system for the Bears anyways since it won a Superbowl, once, ya know, just like the Tampa Two did, so it's got to be a good system. I hate this fucking team.
They'd be better off with Ernie Zampese.
I'd like to see them go after Lane Kiffin, Ken Zampese, Brian Schottenheimer, and Jim Mora Jr. and just call it the All Nepotism Team.
Quote from: fiveouts on January 13, 2010, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 13, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 13, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
DPD, I guess. The Bears are supposedly looking (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/zampese-emerges-as-bears-offensive-coordinator-candidate/) at Ken Zampese, the QB coach for the Bengals, as a possible offensive coordinator. In case you were wondering, yes, he did work with Lovie in St. Louis. One rumor is that Martz recommended the Bears hire Zampese, meaning that Lovie's obviously figured out that Martz would be an unpopular hire, but he's determined to get that system for the Bears anyways since it won a Superbowl, once, ya know, just like the Tampa Two did, so it's got to be a good system. I hate this fucking team.
They'd be better off with Ernie Zampese.
I'd like to see them go after Lane Kiffin, Ken Zampese, Brian Schottenheimer, and Jim Mora Jr. and just call it the All Nepotism Team.
Let's skip Lane, I think he could cause the Bears to be the first NFL team to receive sanctions.
Quote from: fiveouts on January 13, 2010, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 13, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 13, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
DPD, I guess. The Bears are supposedly looking (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/zampese-emerges-as-bears-offensive-coordinator-candidate/) at Ken Zampese, the QB coach for the Bengals, as a possible offensive coordinator. In case you were wondering, yes, he did work with Lovie in St. Louis. One rumor is that Martz recommended the Bears hire Zampese, meaning that Lovie's obviously figured out that Martz would be an unpopular hire, but he's determined to get that system for the Bears anyways since it won a Superbowl, once, ya know, just like the Tampa Two did, so it's got to be a good system. I hate this fucking team.
They'd be better off with Ernie Zampese.
I'd like to see them go after Lane Kiffin, Ken Zampese, Brian Schottenheimer, and Jim Mora Jr. and just call it the All Nepotism Team.
Maybe George W. Bush and Paris Hilton too.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 13, 2010, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 13, 2010, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 13, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 13, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
DPD, I guess. The Bears are supposedly looking (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/zampese-emerges-as-bears-offensive-coordinator-candidate/) at Ken Zampese, the QB coach for the Bengals, as a possible offensive coordinator. In case you were wondering, yes, he did work with Lovie in St. Louis. One rumor is that Martz recommended the Bears hire Zampese, meaning that Lovie's obviously figured out that Martz would be an unpopular hire, but he's determined to get that system for the Bears anyways since it won a Superbowl, once, ya know, just like the Tampa Two did, so it's got to be a good system. I hate this fucking team.
They'd be better off with Ernie Zampese.
I'd like to see them go after Lane Kiffin, Ken Zampese, Brian Schottenheimer, and Jim Mora Jr. and just call it the All Nepotism Team.
Maybe George W. Bush and Paris Hilton too.
Brian Griese.
Rex.
"Texans beat writer John McClain speculates that Rex Grossman won't be back with the Texans next season.
Dan Orlovsky is expected to be Matt Schaub's backup in 2010. Grossman will try to find work as a No. 2 man elsewhere.
Source: Houston Chronicle "
Quote from: Ivy6 on January 13, 2010, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 13, 2010, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 13, 2010, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 13, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 13, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
DPD, I guess. The Bears are supposedly looking (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/zampese-emerges-as-bears-offensive-coordinator-candidate/) at Ken Zampese, the QB coach for the Bengals, as a possible offensive coordinator. In case you were wondering, yes, he did work with Lovie in St. Louis. One rumor is that Martz recommended the Bears hire Zampese, meaning that Lovie's obviously figured out that Martz would be an unpopular hire, but he's determined to get that system for the Bears anyways since it won a Superbowl, once, ya know, just like the Tampa Two did, so it's got to be a good system. I hate this fucking team.
They'd be better off with Ernie Zampese.
I'd like to see them go after Lane Kiffin, Ken Zampese, Brian Schottenheimer, and Jim Mora Jr. and just call it the All Nepotism Team.
Maybe George W. Bush and Paris Hilton too.
Brian Griese.
Joe Buck, Chip Caray, and tHom Brennaman can do the games.
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 13, 2010, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on January 13, 2010, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 13, 2010, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: fiveouts on January 13, 2010, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 13, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 13, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
DPD, I guess. The Bears are supposedly looking (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/zampese-emerges-as-bears-offensive-coordinator-candidate/) at Ken Zampese, the QB coach for the Bengals, as a possible offensive coordinator. In case you were wondering, yes, he did work with Lovie in St. Louis. One rumor is that Martz recommended the Bears hire Zampese, meaning that Lovie's obviously figured out that Martz would be an unpopular hire, but he's determined to get that system for the Bears anyways since it won a Superbowl, once, ya know, just like the Tampa Two did, so it's got to be a good system. I hate this fucking team.
They'd be better off with Ernie Zampese.
I'd like to see them go after Lane Kiffin, Ken Zampese, Brian Schottenheimer, and Jim Mora Jr. and just call it the All Nepotism Team.
Maybe George W. Bush and Paris Hilton too.
Brian Griese.
Joe Buck, Chip Caray, and tHom Brennaman can do the games.
Andy McPhail can be GM.
Quote from: BH on January 13, 2010, 11:31:52 AM
Rex.
"Texans beat writer John McClain speculates that Rex Grossman won't be back with the Texans next season.
Dan Orlovsky is expected to be Matt Schaub's backup in 2010. Grossman will try to find work as a No. 2 man elsewhere.
Source: Houston Chronicle "
Does he work out of Nakatomi Plaza too?
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on January 13, 2010, 12:22:12 PM
Quote from: BH on January 13, 2010, 11:31:52 AM
Rex.
"Texans beat writer John McClain speculates that Rex Grossman won't be back with the Texans next season.
Dan Orlovsky is expected to be Matt Schaub's backup in 2010. Grossman will try to find work as a No. 2 man elsewhere.
Source: Houston Chronicle "
Does he work out of Nakatomi Plaza too?
Nah, he just walks around in it barefooted blowing up stuff and pissing people off.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 13, 2010, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on January 13, 2010, 12:22:12 PM
Quote from: BH on January 13, 2010, 11:31:52 AM
Rex.
"Texans beat writer John McClain speculates that Rex Grossman won't be back with the Texans next season.
Dan Orlovsky is expected to be Matt Schaub's backup in 2010. Grossman will try to find work as a No. 2 man elsewhere.
Source: Houston Chronicle "
Does he work out of Nakatomi Plaza too?
Nah, he just walks around in it barefooted blowing up stuff and pissing people off.
Hughie thinks this is all very arcane.
Intrepid Reader: BH
Quote
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports former Bills interim coach Perry Fewell is "planning to accept" the Giants' defensive coordinator position over the Bears'.
It's a bit surprising, as Schefter reported earlier in the week that Fewell would accept the Bears' job if it was offered. Fewell's Cover-2 philosophy also would have been a much more natural fit with Lovie Smith, who already has the system in place. Fewell, one of best defensive backs coaches in the league, will be asked to fix the Giants' leaky secondary.
How does one qualify one as being one of the "best defensive back coaches in the league"?
And am I the only one who has an image of this guy in his head whenever he hears his name:
(http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/07/05/31_farrel.jpg)
?
Quote from: MAD on January 14, 2010, 11:23:21 AM
And am I the only one who has an image of this guy in his head whenever he hears his name:
I thought I was the only one!
So this is what it feels like... when doves cry.
Am I the only one who has no idea who that guy is?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 14, 2010, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: MAD on January 14, 2010, 11:23:21 AM
And am I the only one who has an image of this guy in his head whenever he hears his name:
I thought I was the only one!
So this is what it feels like... when doves cry.
Thirded. Fortunately, it sounds like we're done with Sergio.
Quote from: Indolent Reader on January 14, 2010, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 14, 2010, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: MAD on January 14, 2010, 11:23:21 AM
And am I the only one who has an image of this guy in his head whenever he hears his name:
I thought I was the only one!
So this is what it feels like... when doves cry.
Thirded. Fortunately, it sounds like we're done with Sergio.
Here we go!
At this point, Nothing's Shocking.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 14, 2010, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on January 14, 2010, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 14, 2010, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: MAD on January 14, 2010, 11:23:21 AM
And am I the only one who has an image of this guy in his head whenever he hears his name:
I thought I was the only one!
So this is what it feels like... when doves cry.
Thirded. Fortunately, it sounds like we're done with Sergio.
Here we go!
Hopefully the Bears will have
someone within Three Days.
Quote from: MAD on January 14, 2010, 11:40:25 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 14, 2010, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on January 14, 2010, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 14, 2010, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: MAD on January 14, 2010, 11:23:21 AM
And am I the only one who has an image of this guy in his head whenever he hears his name:
I thought I was the only one!
So this is what it feels like... when doves cry.
Thirded. Fortunately, it sounds like we're done with Sergio.
Here we go!
Hopefully the Bears will have someone within Three Days.
Hopefully we don't just hire the first guy
comin' down the mountain.
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
Wait... which one's this?
Porno for Pyros? Satellite Party? DJ Peretz?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 14, 2010, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
Wait... which one's this?
Porno for Pyros? Satellite Party? DJ Peretz?
Mike Tice is GEORGE HUTCHINS sans mustache.
And Nazi Party affiliation.
Probably.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/fz5dh0.jpg)
Found this (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/145590-lovie-smith-to-tennessee) on a crazy rumor site.
But considering the Bears aren't playing for 8 months, discuss.
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
I hope Dan Pompei's just talking out of his ass here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-14-bears-chicago-jan14,0,6522823.story) and this isn't based on what the Bears are actually thinking. Because it's a recipe for epic fail.
QuoteIt is possible the Bears could hire Tice in a capacity other than offensive coordinator. They could be considering him as an offensive line coach as well as a coordinator.
It also is possible the team will not have one person handle all of the traditional offensive coordinator responsibilities. They could divvy up the job among two or even three coaches. Tice, for instance, could be the running game coordinator while another coach could be in charge of the passing game.
What is certain is the Bears are considering all possibilities and taking their time investigating the field. They are not expected to make a decision on an offensive coordinator soon.
Quote from: R-V on January 14, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
I hope Dan Pompei's just talking out of his ass here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-14-bears-chicago-jan14,0,6522823.story) and this isn't based on what the Bears are actually thinking. Because it's a recipe for epic fail.
QuoteIt is possible the Bears could hire Tice in a capacity other than offensive coordinator. They could be considering him as an offensive line coach as well as a coordinator.
It also is possible the team will not have one person handle all of the traditional offensive coordinator responsibilities. They could divvy up the job among two or even three coaches. Tice, for instance, could be the running game coordinator while another coach could be in charge of the passing game.
What is certain is the Bears are considering all possibilities and taking their time investigating the field. They are not expected to make a decision on an offensive coordinator soon.
Quote* Head Coach – Ken Whisenhunt
* Assistant Head Coach/Running Game Coordinator/Offensive Line – Russ Grimm
Offensive Coaches
* Passing Game Coordinator – Mike Miller
It works for Arizona.
Quote from: R-V on January 14, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
I hope Dan Pompei's just talking out of his ass here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-14-bears-chicago-jan14,0,6522823.story) and this isn't based on what the Bears are actually thinking. Because it's a recipe for epic fail.
QuoteIt is possible the Bears could hire Tice in a capacity other than offensive coordinator. They could be considering him as an offensive line coach as well as a coordinator.
It also is possible the team will not have one person handle all of the traditional offensive coordinator responsibilities. They could divvy up the job among two or even three coaches. Tice, for instance, could be the running game coordinator while another coach could be in charge of the passing game.
What is certain is the Bears are considering all possibilities and taking their time investigating the field. They are not expected to make a decision on an offensive coordinator soon.
Hmm, tell me more about this "College of Coaches".
Waco, that setup works for Arizona as long as Kurt Warner is set on "awesome".
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 14, 2010, 12:34:36 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 14, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
I hope Dan Pompei's just talking out of his ass here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-14-bears-chicago-jan14,0,6522823.story) and this isn't based on what the Bears are actually thinking. Because it's a recipe for epic fail.
QuoteIt is possible the Bears could hire Tice in a capacity other than offensive coordinator. They could be considering him as an offensive line coach as well as a coordinator.
It also is possible the team will not have one person handle all of the traditional offensive coordinator responsibilities. They could divvy up the job among two or even three coaches. Tice, for instance, could be the running game coordinator while another coach could be in charge of the passing game.
What is certain is the Bears are considering all possibilities and taking their time investigating the field. They are not expected to make a decision on an offensive coordinator soon.
Quote* Head Coach – Ken Whisenhunt
* Assistant Head Coach/Running Game Coordinator/Offensive Line – Russ Grimm
Offensive Coaches
* Passing Game Coordinator – Mike Miller
It works for Arizona.
Fair enough. But Arizona also has a head coach with an offensive background who (I assume) has a pretty big role in game planning and play calling. The Bears have a head coach who doesn't really have much to do with the offense.
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 14, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
I hope Dan Pompei's just talking out of his ass here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-14-bears-chicago-jan14,0,6522823.story) and this isn't based on what the Bears are actually thinking. Because it's a recipe for epic fail.
QuoteIt is possible the Bears could hire Tice in a capacity other than offensive coordinator. They could be considering him as an offensive line coach as well as a coordinator.
It also is possible the team will not have one person handle all of the traditional offensive coordinator responsibilities. They could divvy up the job among two or even three coaches. Tice, for instance, could be the running game coordinator while another coach could be in charge of the passing game.
What is certain is the Bears are considering all possibilities and taking their time investigating the field. They are not expected to make a decision on an offensive coordinator soon.
Hmm, tell me more about this "College of Coaches".
Waco, that setup works for Arizona as long as Kurt Warner is set on "awesome".
When it comes to the postseason Kurt Warner is set on awesome more often then not.
Quote from: R-V on January 14, 2010, 12:52:17 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 14, 2010, 12:34:36 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 14, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
I hope Dan Pompei's just talking out of his ass here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-14-bears-chicago-jan14,0,6522823.story) and this isn't based on what the Bears are actually thinking. Because it's a recipe for epic fail.
QuoteIt is possible the Bears could hire Tice in a capacity other than offensive coordinator. They could be considering him as an offensive line coach as well as a coordinator.
It also is possible the team will not have one person handle all of the traditional offensive coordinator responsibilities. They could divvy up the job among two or even three coaches. Tice, for instance, could be the running game coordinator while another coach could be in charge of the passing game.
What is certain is the Bears are considering all possibilities and taking their time investigating the field. They are not expected to make a decision on an offensive coordinator soon.
Quote* Head Coach – Ken Whisenhunt
* Assistant Head Coach/Running Game Coordinator/Offensive Line – Russ Grimm
Offensive Coaches
* Passing Game Coordinator – Mike Miller
It works for Arizona.
Fair enough. But Arizona also has a head coach with an offensive background who (I assume) has a pretty big role in game planning and play calling. The Bears have a head coach who doesn't really have much to do with the offense.
DPD.
While it still could be an epic fail for the Bears, the idea in of itself wasn't outrageous.
Quote from: R-V on January 14, 2010, 12:52:17 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 14, 2010, 12:34:36 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 14, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 14, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Mike Tice will get this turned around.
I hope Dan Pompei's just talking out of his ass here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-14-bears-chicago-jan14,0,6522823.story) and this isn't based on what the Bears are actually thinking. Because it's a recipe for epic fail.
QuoteIt is possible the Bears could hire Tice in a capacity other than offensive coordinator. They could be considering him as an offensive line coach as well as a coordinator.
It also is possible the team will not have one person handle all of the traditional offensive coordinator responsibilities. They could divvy up the job among two or even three coaches. Tice, for instance, could be the running game coordinator while another coach could be in charge of the passing game.
What is certain is the Bears are considering all possibilities and taking their time investigating the field. They are not expected to make a decision on an offensive coordinator soon.
Quote* Head Coach – Ken Whisenhunt
* Assistant Head Coach/Running Game Coordinator/Offensive Line – Russ Grimm
Offensive Coaches
* Passing Game Coordinator – Mike Miller
It works for Arizona.
Fair enough. But Arizona also has a head coach with an offensive background who (I assume) has a pretty big role in game planning and play calling. The Bears have a head coach who doesn't really have much to do with the offense.
THIS.
Whiz calls pretty much all the plays.
Can we simply set Jake Utler on awesome, Matt Forte on "2008 Vintage," the wide receivers on "Able to Start for a SEC School," and the offensive line on "Not shitty?"
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Can we simply set Jake Utler on awesome, Matt Forte on "2008 Vintage," the wide receivers on "Able to Start for a SEC School," and the offensive line on "Not shitty?"
Don't forget to set the defense to "2006" while we're at it.
Quote from: motown on January 14, 2010, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Can we simply set Jake Utler on awesome, Matt Forte on "2008 Vintage," the wide receivers on "Able to Start for a SEC School," and the offensive line on "Not shitty?"
Don't forget to set the defense to "2006 1985" while we're at it.
As long as we're aiming high'd.
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: motown on January 14, 2010, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Can we simply set Jake Utler on awesome, Matt Forte on "2008 Vintage," the wide receivers on "Able to Start for a SEC School," and the offensive line on "Not shitty?"
Don't forget to set the defense to "2006 1985" while we're at it.
As long as we're aiming high'd.
Great, we've fixed the Bears. That wasn't so hard.
Now about those Cubs...
Quote from: Slack-E on January 14, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: motown on January 14, 2010, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Can we simply set Jake Utler on awesome, Matt Forte on "2008 Vintage," the wide receivers on "Able to Start for a SEC School," and the offensive line on "Not shitty?"
Don't forget to set the defense to "2006 1985" while we're at it.
As long as we're aiming high'd.
Great, we've fixed the Bears. That wasn't so hard.
Now about those Cubs...
Just set 'em to
2008 2007 2003 1998 1984 1969 1945 1929 1908.
Quote from: Eli on January 14, 2010, 02:25:51 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 14, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: motown on January 14, 2010, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Can we simply set Jake Utler on awesome, Matt Forte on "2008 Vintage," the wide receivers on "Able to Start for a SEC School," and the offensive line on "Not shitty?"
Don't forget to set the defense to "2006 1985" while we're at it.
As long as we're aiming high'd.
Great, we've fixed the Bears. That wasn't so hard.
Now about those Cubs...
Just set 'em to 2008 2007 2003 1998 1984 1969 1945 1929 1908.
Has it really been that long?
Quote from: Eli on January 14, 2010, 02:25:51 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 14, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: motown on January 14, 2010, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Can we simply set Jake Utler on awesome, Matt Forte on "2008 Vintage," the wide receivers on "Able to Start for a SEC School," and the offensive line on "Not shitty?"
Don't forget to set the defense to "2006 1985" while we're at it.
As long as we're aiming high'd.
Great, we've fixed the Bears. That wasn't so hard.
Now about those Cubs...
Just set 'em to 2008 2007 2003 1998 1984 1969 1945 1929 1908.
Why does Eli hate the 1989, 1938, 1935, 1932 and 1918 Cubs so much?
Quote from: MAD on January 14, 2010, 04:40:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 14, 2010, 02:25:51 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 14, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: motown on January 14, 2010, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 14, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Can we simply set Jake Utler on awesome, Matt Forte on "2008 Vintage," the wide receivers on "Able to Start for a SEC School," and the offensive line on "Not shitty?"
Don't forget to set the defense to "2006 1985" while we're at it.
As long as we're aiming high'd.
Great, we've fixed the Bears. That wasn't so hard.
Now about those Cubs...
Just set 'em to 2008 2007 2003 1998 1984 1969 1945 1929 1908.
Why does Eli hate the 1989, 1938, 1935, 1932 and 1918 Cubs so much?
Because they didn't win the World Series?
Looks like the Bears are going to have to re-sign Ogunleye.
Quote from: Weebs on January 17, 2010, 10:52:27 AM
Looks like the Bears are going to have to re-sign Ogunleye.
Or Dan Bauzin.
I wonder if Adams had heart trouble because he was doing something edgy to try and bulk up. If that turns out to be the case, the Bears are going to take a serious P.R. hit. That hit should be spread around though. Nobody seems to give a shit who takes what where football players are concerned, while Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa are treated like child rapists. Damn if I can understand any of it but a man is dead. Let's wait and see how this all plays out.
Biggs tweeted it appears to have been cardiac arrest due to an enlarged heart.
An EKG detects these things. Hadn't he had one in the recent past? I would assume so. Is there treatment for such a condition?
Quote from: Slack-E on January 17, 2010, 01:21:24 PM
An EKG detects these things. Hadn't he had one in the recent past? I would assume so. Is there treatment for such a condition?
I think a heart transplant is the only thing that can be done. Granted, I'm basing this almost exclusively on what I remember from watching
John Q.
Quote from: Weebs on January 17, 2010, 01:23:09 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 17, 2010, 01:21:24 PM
An EKG detects these things. Hadn't he had one in the recent past? I would assume so. Is there treatment for such a condition?
I think a heart transplant is the only thing that can be done. Granted, I'm basing this almost exclusively on what I remember from watching John Q.
I heard Adams had a donor heart lined up last week, when tragedy struck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzPDEirVTZk).
Also: Weebs isn't right...
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/enlarged-heart/DS01129
QuoteWhile having an enlarged heart may not always be preventable, it's usually treatable. Treatment for enlarged heart is aimed at correcting the underlying cause. Treatment for an enlarged heart can include medications, medical procedures or surgery.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/enlarged-heart/DS01129/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 17, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 17, 2010, 01:23:09 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 17, 2010, 01:21:24 PM
An EKG detects these things. Hadn't he had one in the recent past? I would assume so. Is there treatment for such a condition?
I think a heart transplant is the only thing that can be done. Granted, I'm basing this almost exclusively on what I remember from watching John Q.
I heard Adams had a donor heart lined up last week, when tragedy struck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzPDEirVTZk).
Also: Weebs isn't right...
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/enlarged-heart/DS01129
QuoteWhile having an enlarged heart may not always be preventable, it's usually treatable. Treatment for enlarged heart is aimed at correcting the underlying cause. Treatment for an enlarged heart can include medications, medical procedures or surgery.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/enlarged-heart/DS01129/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs
Well then Denzel went to some unnecessarily-extreme measures for his son.
Steroids can cause an enlarged heart.
But hey, we've still got Dusty Dvorachek (http://www.okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=15098)!
Quote from: CT III on January 17, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
But hey, we've still got Dusty Dvorachek (http://www.okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=15098)!
And Mike Tice to work miracles with the O-line!
Quote from: C-C-Cats on January 17, 2010, 09:59:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 17, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
But hey, we've still got Dusty Dvorachek (http://www.okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=15098)!
And Mike Tice to work miracles with the O-line!
I'm not buying it. I was told Rod Marinelli works miracles with D-lines, but all we have to show for one year of his teaching is a fatality.
Quote from: Ivy6 on January 18, 2010, 08:41:27 AM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on January 17, 2010, 09:59:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 17, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
But hey, we've still got Dusty Dvorachek (http://www.okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=15098)!
And Mike Tice to work miracles with the O-line!
I'm not buying it. I was told Rod Marinelli works miracles with D-lines, but all we have to show for one year of his teaching is a fatality.
Kill one, and everyone else gets with the program. You'll see.
Quote from: Ivy6 on January 18, 2010, 08:41:27 AM
Quote from: C-C-Cats on January 17, 2010, 09:59:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 17, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
But hey, we've still got Dusty Dvorachek (http://www.okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=15098)!
And Mike Tice to work miracles with the O-line!
I'm not buying it. I was told Rod Marinelli works miracles with D-lines, but all we have to show for one year of his teaching is a fatality.
Maybe Rod can help out with the O Line.
David Haugh says the Bears should hire Rob Chudzinski (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0122-haugh-bears-chicago--20100121,0,1121909.column).
Slaky, wasn't he the Browns' o-coordinator when your brother was there?
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2010, 04:10:10 PM
David Haugh says the Bears should hire Rob Chudzinski (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0122-haugh-bears-chicago--20100121,0,1121909.column).
Slaky, wasn't he the Browns' o-coordinator when your brother was there?
He's anal retentive, a bit of a jerk. He likes a run based offense but will go 5 wide on occasion. He's one of those guys who likes to have a ton of different personnel packages and criticize every route in every play. He does like to throw to the tight end, so that's a bonus. Sounds like he's entirely mediocre, which means he's a perfect hire for the Bears.
Quote from: Slack-E on January 22, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2010, 04:10:10 PM
David Haugh says the Bears should hire Rob Chudzinski (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0122-haugh-bears-chicago--20100121,0,1121909.column).
Slaky, wasn't he the Browns' o-coordinator when your brother was there?
He's anal retentive, a bit of a jerk. He likes a run based offense but will go 5 wide on occasion. He's one of those guys who likes to have a ton of different personnel packages and criticize every route in every play. He does like to throw to the tight end, so that's a bonus. Sounds like he's entirely mediocre, which means he's a perfect hire for the Bears.
Didn't he have his political forum single handedly destroyed by a troll (through sophistry, natch)? nice choice jerry
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 22, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 22, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2010, 04:10:10 PM
David Haugh says the Bears should hire Rob Chudzinski (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0122-haugh-bears-chicago--20100121,0,1121909.column).
Slaky, wasn't he the Browns' o-coordinator when your brother was there?
He's anal retentive, a bit of a jerk. He likes a run based offense but will go 5 wide on occasion. He's one of those guys who likes to have a ton of different personnel packages and criticize every route in every play. He does like to throw to the tight end, so that's a bonus. Sounds like he's entirely mediocre, which means he's a perfect hire for the Bears.
Didn't he have his political forum single handedly destroyed by a troll (through sophistry, natch)? nice choice jerry
Did anyone ever find that CHUD thread?
Quote from: JD on January 22, 2010, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 22, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 22, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2010, 04:10:10 PM
David Haugh says the Bears should hire Rob Chudzinski (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0122-haugh-bears-chicago--20100121,0,1121909.column).
Slaky, wasn't he the Browns' o-coordinator when your brother was there?
He's anal retentive, a bit of a jerk. He likes a run based offense but will go 5 wide on occasion. He's one of those guys who likes to have a ton of different personnel packages and criticize every route in every play. He does like to throw to the tight end, so that's a bonus. Sounds like he's entirely mediocre, which means he's a perfect hire for the Bears.
Didn't he have his political forum single handedly destroyed by a troll (through sophistry, natch)? nice choice jerry
Did anyone ever find that CHUD thread?
I don't think CHUD is a real place.
Quote from: Slack-E on January 22, 2010, 11:22:31 PM
Quote from: JD on January 22, 2010, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 22, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 22, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2010, 04:10:10 PM
David Haugh says the Bears should hire Rob Chudzinski (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0122-haugh-bears-chicago--20100121,0,1121909.column).
Slaky, wasn't he the Browns' o-coordinator when your brother was there?
He's anal retentive, a bit of a jerk. He likes a run based offense but will go 5 wide on occasion. He's one of those guys who likes to have a ton of different personnel packages and criticize every route in every play. He does like to throw to the tight end, so that's a bonus. Sounds like he's entirely mediocre, which means he's a perfect hire for the Bears.
Didn't he have his political forum single handedly destroyed by a troll (through sophistry, natch)? nice choice jerry
Did anyone ever find that CHUD thread?
I don't think CHUD is a real place.
Years ago I mined the place for the massive pot of glittery gold Paul promised but came up FAIL. Somebody more enterprising than myself might give it another go. Or not.
http://chud.com/forum/
www.rotoworld.com
"There are reportedly "rumblings at the Senior Bowl" that the Bears can't find an offensive coordinator because candidates are turned off by the prospect of having to coach Jay Cutler.
The perception, presumably, is that Cutler ran ex-Bears OC Ron Turner out of Chicago, which it would be hard to disagree with. It would also be hard to argue that Turner did a good enough job in the first place. There is a more logical perception that OC candidates don't want to work under head coach Lovie Smith, who's entering a "win or else" situation in 2010.
Source: National Football Post"
I WILL NOT COACH A PRO BOWL QUARTERBACK! LOOK WHAT HE DID TO RON TURNER
As we sit and laugh at the Vikings' loss in the NFC Championship game, the Bears can't even get anyone to interview for a coordinator position. They're now losing candidates who would rather work with Al Davis and JaMarcus Russell (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/hue-jackson-wont-interview-with-bears-after-all.html).
QuoteBaltimore Ravens quarterbacks coach Hue Jackson, who was headed to Chicago for an interview with the Bears today, was a last-minute scratch, according to an NFL source with knowledge of the situation. Multiple reports say Jackson instead has taken the offensive-coordinator job with the Oakland Raiders.
Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2010, 09:00:19 AM
As we sit and laugh at the Vikings' loss in the NFC Championship game, the Bears can't even get anyone to interview for a coordinator position. They're now losing candidates who would rather work with Al Davis and JaMarcus Russell (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/hue-jackson-wont-interview-with-bears-after-all.html).
QuoteBaltimore Ravens quarterbacks coach Hue Jackson, who was headed to Chicago for an interview with the Bears today, was a last-minute scratch, according to an NFL source with knowledge of the situation. Multiple reports say Jackson instead has taken the offensive-coordinator job with the Oakland Raiders.
Can we have the lockout next season? We certainly won't be missing anything with the Bears.
Quote from: BH on January 26, 2010, 08:59:06 AM
www.rotoworld.com
"There are reportedly "rumblings at the Senior Bowl" that the Bears can't find an offensive coordinator because candidates are turned off by the prospect of having to coach Jay Cutler.
The perception, presumably, is that Cutler ran ex-Bears OC Ron Turner out of Chicago, which it would be hard to disagree with. It would also be hard to argue that Turner did a good enough job in the first place. There is a more logical perception that OC candidates don't want to work under head coach Lovie Smith, who's entering a "win or else" situation in 2010.
Source: National Football Post"
I WILL NOT COACH A PRO BOWL QUARTERBACK! LOOK WHAT HE DID TO RON TURNER
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
I have the feeling that Mike Tice is going to be getting a promotion in short order.
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
Oh there's plenty of picks though. Or so I'm told by all those who think they should've kept Ortman.
Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
I have the feeling that Mike Tice is going to be getting a promotion in short order.
That's what Mully and Hanley were saying last week. They were guessing that Tice is the backup plan.
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
I have the feeling that Mike Tice is going to be getting a promotion in short order.
That's what Mully and Hanley were saying last week. They were guessing that Tice is the backup plan.
What else did they say?
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 26, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
I have the feeling that Mike Tice is going to be getting a promotion in short order.
That's what Mully and Hanley were saying last week. They were guessing that Tice is the backup plan.
What else did they say?
And are you sure you heard them right? How'd they pronounce "Tice"?
Is Ron Turner LOL'ing right now? OMG! WTF?
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 26, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
I have the feeling that Mike Tice is going to be getting a promotion in short order.
That's what Mully and Hanley were saying last week. They were guessing that Tice is the backup plan.
What else did they say?
That Purdue basketball sucks.
Quote from: Indolent Reader on January 26, 2010, 12:23:38 PM
Is Ron Turner LOL'ing right now? OMG! WTF?
I'm assuming your question is directed at RV?
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 26, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
I have the feeling that Mike Tice is going to be getting a promotion in short order.
That's what Mully and Hanley were saying last week. They were guessing that Tice is the backup plan.
What else did they say?
That Purdue basketball sucks.
Bastards! I'm calling their asses tomorrow. This won't stand.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 26, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
I have the feeling that Mike Tice is going to be getting a promotion in short order.
That's what Mully and Hanley were saying last week. They were guessing that Tice is the backup plan.
What else did they say?
They told me you guys look like dorks.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on January 26, 2010, 01:03:22 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 26, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This makes me ANGRY. It better be the latter explanation. If some fucking coach doesn't think he can handle a professional quarterback then he needs to find a new fucking profession
It's not true at all. It's just standard stirring up shit media idiocy because they have nothing interesting to say.
The truth is:
1) The offensive line is garbage
2) Aromashodu is possibly their best receiver
3) Lovie will demand a conservative offense
4) There are no picks to fix any of it
5) There is a huge chance that that everyone from GM through water boy is fired next season
So, if you are a solid coach with a job you don't want to leave for a bad situation where you'll probably get fired.
If you're a younger guy who wants to show the league what you can do you have no tools or control to do it.
If you're a crazy egotistical self-styled genius you have no chance to unleash your crazy pass happy offense.
I have the feeling that Mike Tice is going to be getting a promotion in short order.
That's what Mully and Hanley were saying last week. They were guessing that Tice is the backup plan.
What else did they say?
They told me you guys look like dorks.
THEY LOOK LIKE DORKS!
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
What else are you supposed to enjoy? A bunch of "lifelong" Colts fans who only discovered pro football over the past decade seeing their "beloved" franchise win its second Super Bowl? A talent-filled draft benefiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Denver Broncos? An offseason of "Will Brett play or not next year" drama?
Quote from: Brownie on January 27, 2010, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
What else are you supposed to enjoy? A bunch of "lifelong" Colts fans who only discovered pro football over the past decade seeing their "beloved" franchise win its second Super Bowl? A talent-filled draft benefiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Denver Broncos? An offseason of "Will Brett play or not next year" drama?
You're trying to bring me down, TJ, but it won't work. I'm going to laugh hysterically when the Bears announce that Mike Tice and Rod Marinelli are the OC and DC for 2010.
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 27, 2010, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
What else are you supposed to enjoy? A bunch of "lifelong" Colts fans who only discovered pro football over the past decade seeing their "beloved" franchise win its second Super Bowl? A talent-filled draft benefiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Denver Broncos? An offseason of "Will Brett play or not next year" drama?
You're trying to bring me down, TJ, but it won't work. I'm going to laugh hysterically when the Bears announce that Mike Tice and Rod Marinelli are the OC and DC for 2010.
I'm gonna laugh even harder when Lovie and Jerry take the podium and announce that after an exhausted search, they picked the 2 best guys for the job to turn this team around.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 27, 2010, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
What else are you supposed to enjoy? A bunch of "lifelong" Colts fans who only discovered pro football over the past decade seeing their "beloved" franchise win its second Super Bowl? A talent-filled draft benefiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Denver Broncos? An offseason of "Will Brett play or not next year" drama?
You're trying to bring me down, TJ, but it won't work. I'm going to laugh hysterically when the Bears announce that Mike Tice and Rod Marinelli are the OC and DC for 2010.
I'm gonna laugh even harder when Lovie and Jerry take the podium and announce that after an exhausted search, they picked the 2 best guys for the job to turn this team around.
Nobody wants to take over the defensive coordinator job because they'd have to deal with Jay Cutler and his moody, coach-killing ways.
Quote from: SKO on January 27, 2010, 01:14:05 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 27, 2010, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
What else are you supposed to enjoy? A bunch of "lifelong" Colts fans who only discovered pro football over the past decade seeing their "beloved" franchise win its second Super Bowl? A talent-filled draft benefiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Denver Broncos? An offseason of "Will Brett play or not next year" drama?
You're trying to bring me down, TJ, but it won't work. I'm going to laugh hysterically when the Bears announce that Mike Tice and Rod Marinelli are the OC and DC for 2010.
I'm gonna laugh even harder when Lovie and Jerry take the podium and announce that after an exhausted search, they picked the 2 best guys for the job to turn this team around.
Nobody wants to take over the defensive coordinator job because they'd have to deal with Jay Cutler and his moody, coach-killing ways.
You thinking Cutler would play corner or linebacker next year?
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 27, 2010, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
What else are you supposed to enjoy? A bunch of "lifelong" Colts fans who only discovered pro football over the past decade seeing their "beloved" franchise win its second Super Bowl? A talent-filled draft benefiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Denver Broncos? An offseason of "Will Brett play or not next year" drama?
You're trying to bring me down, TJ, but it won't work. I'm going to laugh hysterically when the Bears announce that Mike Tice and Rod Marinelli are the OC and DC for 2010.
I'm gonna laugh even harder when Lovie and Jerry take the podium and announce that after an exhausted search, they picked the 2 best guys for the job to turn this team around.
How can a search get tired?
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 01:23:25 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 27, 2010, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
What else are you supposed to enjoy? A bunch of "lifelong" Colts fans who only discovered pro football over the past decade seeing their "beloved" franchise win its second Super Bowl? A talent-filled draft benefiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Denver Broncos? An offseason of "Will Brett play or not next year" drama?
You're trying to bring me down, TJ, but it won't work. I'm going to laugh hysterically when the Bears announce that Mike Tice and Rod Marinelli are the OC and DC for 2010.
I'm gonna laugh even harder when Lovie and Jerry take the podium and announce that after an exhausted search, they picked the 2 best guys for the job to turn this team around.
How can a search get tired?
Don't question how hard they are looking for the right fit.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 01:26:26 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 01:23:25 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 27, 2010, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 27, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
What excitement! This is Bear football!
"Bears DL coach Rod Marinelli says he is open to becoming the team's defensive coordinator if they can't find anyone else.
Chicago's defensive coordinator search took an abrupt halt after the team lost out on Perry Fewell to the Giants. "Whatever Lovie needs, I'll do," Marinelli said. "If the field needs to be mowed, I'll bring my hand-mower out."
Source: Chicago Tribune "
www.rotoworld.com
Is it wrong that I'm starting to enjoy this? Anybody can put together a playoff team or Super Bowl contender, but this sort of organizational disfunction is usually only found in franchises where madmen have been in power for years. The Bears are way ahead of schedule.
What else are you supposed to enjoy? A bunch of "lifelong" Colts fans who only discovered pro football over the past decade seeing their "beloved" franchise win its second Super Bowl? A talent-filled draft benefiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Denver Broncos? An offseason of "Will Brett play or not next year" drama?
You're trying to bring me down, TJ, but it won't work. I'm going to laugh hysterically when the Bears announce that Mike Tice and Rod Marinelli are the OC and DC for 2010.
I'm gonna laugh even harder when Lovie and Jerry take the podium and announce that after an exhausted search, they picked the 2 best guys for the job to turn this team around.
How can a search get tired?
Don't question how hard they are looking for the right fit.
That would be even more foolish than questioning the almighty wisdom of JP Morgan Chase.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article)
And the Bears inch ever closer to the inevitable start of the Mike Martz era.
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 29, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article)
And the Bears inch ever closer to the inevitable start of the Mike Martz era.
I know SKO hates him, but it seems as if Martz
might actually be the best option at this point. At least he's been in charge of NFL offenses before, as opposed to any of the random retread QB coaches they're interviewing from other teams.
Quote from: Eli on January 29, 2010, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 29, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article)
And the Bears inch ever closer to the inevitable start of the Mike Martz era.
I know SKO hates him, but it seems as if Martz might actually be the best option at this point. At least he's been in charge of NFL offenses before, as opposed to any of the random retread QB coaches they're interviewing from other teams.
If Martz doesn't want to do it, Rod Marinelli is game I'm sure.
Quote from: Eli on January 29, 2010, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 29, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article)
And the Bears inch ever closer to the inevitable start of the Mike Martz era.
I know SKO hates him, but it seems as if Martz might actually be the best option at this point. At least he's been in charge of NFL offenses before, as opposed to any of the random retread QB coaches they're interviewing from other teams.
Given the choice between Martz, some random QB coach, or naming Mike Tice the OC, I have to go with Martz.
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 29, 2010, 03:07:22 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 29, 2010, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 29, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article)
And the Bears inch ever closer to the inevitable start of the Mike Martz era.
I know SKO hates him, but it seems as if Martz might actually be the best option at this point. At least he's been in charge of NFL offenses before, as opposed to any of the random retread QB coaches they're interviewing from other teams.
Given the choice between Martz, some random QB coach, or naming Mike Tice the OC, I have to go with Martz.
I don't usually do this, but Martz has been covered before:
now check it
out. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=2347.0)
Quote from: BH on January 29, 2010, 03:03:41 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 29, 2010, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on January 29, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2018995,mike-martz-chicago-bears-012910.article)
And the Bears inch ever closer to the inevitable start of the Mike Martz era.
I know SKO hates him, but it seems as if Martz might actually be the best option at this point. At least he's been in charge of NFL offenses before, as opposed to any of the random retread QB coaches they're interviewing from other teams.
If Martz doesn't want to do it, Rod Marinelli is game I'm sure.
I lol'd.
Good news! You can now relive the Bears' last Super Bowl appearance - all the thrills, all the valor, all the glory - again and again!
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So how about that Julius Peppers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Peppers-leaving-Panthers?urn=nfl,216797), eh comrades?
Quote from: R-V on February 01, 2010, 10:29:10 AM
So how about that Julius Peppers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Peppers-leaving-Panthers?urn=nfl,216797), eh comrades?
Slap an EKG on this fella and let's see what he's made out of.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 01, 2010, 10:46:34 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 01, 2010, 10:29:10 AM
So how about that Julius Peppers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Peppers-leaving-Panthers?urn=nfl,216797), eh comrades?
Slap an EKG on this fella and let's see what he's made out of.
It's wrong how much I laughed at that comment. Oh, and sign Peppers. That would be okay in my book.
Quote from: SKO on February 01, 2010, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 01, 2010, 10:46:34 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 01, 2010, 10:29:10 AM
So how about that Julius Peppers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Peppers-leaving-Panthers?urn=nfl,216797), eh comrades?
Slap an EKG on this fella and let's see what he's made out of.
It's wrong how much I laughed at that comment. Oh, and sign Peppers. That would be okay in my book.
And move him to the O-line, right?
Bears have confirmed Mike Martz will be the new coordinator. Hoo boy.
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 01, 2010, 02:34:11 PM
Bears have confirmed Mike Martz will be the new coordinator. Hoo boy.
I hate everything about my very existence. Welcome to hell. Which record does Cutler break first under Martz' freewheeling tutelage, George Blanda's 42 interceptions or David Carr's 76 sacks?
Quote from: SKO on February 01, 2010, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 01, 2010, 02:34:11 PM
Bears have confirmed Mike Martz will be the new coordinator. Hoo boy.
I hate everything about my very existence. Welcome to hell. Which record does Cutler break first under Martz' freewheeling tutelage, George Blanda's 42 interceptions or David Carr's 76 sacks?
It's now confirmed, that light at the end of the tunnel was indeed an oncoming train.
Quote from: SKO on February 01, 2010, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 01, 2010, 02:34:11 PM
Bears have confirmed Mike Martz will be the new coordinator. Hoo boy.
I hate everything about my very existence. Welcome to hell. Which record does Cutler break first under Martz' freewheeling tutelage, George Blanda's 42 interceptions or David Carr's 76 sacks?
Good thing you're a Saints fan.
With Martz, Lovie and Marinelli, the Bears are a lock for Super Bowl XXXIV.
Quote from: SKO on February 01, 2010, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 01, 2010, 02:34:11 PM
Bears have confirmed Mike Martz will be the new coordinator. Hoo boy.
I hate everything about my very existence. Welcome to hell. Which record does Cutler break first under Martz' freewheeling tutelage, George Blanda's 42 interceptions or David Carr's 76 sacks?
He'll be hurt too soon to approach either.
Quote from: fiveouts on February 01, 2010, 03:57:35 PM
With Martz, Lovie, Tice, and Marinelli, the Bears are a lock for Super Bowl XXXIV.
Additional part of the championship formula.
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 01, 2010, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on February 01, 2010, 03:57:35 PM
With Martz, Lovie, Tice, and Marinelli, the Bears are a lock for Super Bowl XXXIV.
Additional part of the championship formula.
The Bears' staff is a veritable "who's who" of 2000s NFC North FAIL, huh?
Mike Morts is gonna bring Jake Utler back to the promised land, like he did with Kurr Tworner. That's what Pete King said on PTI today. He also said that Tim Tebow will be an NFL quarterback, so you know that these ramblings are those of an insane person. I mean yeah, he throws like a girl and he's really, really slow but he has heart damn it. He will not take no for an answer. (He really said these things)
Quote from: Slack-E on February 01, 2010, 06:41:20 PM
Mike Morts is gonna bring Jake Utler back to the promised land, like he did with Kurr Tworner. That's what Pete King said on PTI today. He also said that Tim Tebow will be an NFL quarterback, so you know that these ramblings are those of an insane person. I mean yeah, he throws like a girl and he's really, really slow but he has heart damn it. He will not take no for an answer. (He really said these things)
I love Peter King's plan for developing Tim Tebow:
QuoteI don't argue with those who say he's got miles to go to be a good NFL player, but I do argue with those who say it's impossible. I remember doing a draft story on the 49ers when Bill Walsh was still in power, and him telling me, "I'm a great believer in prior performance with players. If a kid was great in high school, he'll usually be good in college. If he's good in college, he'll usually make the grade in the NFL.'' Tebow's will is going to serve him well. You know what might be good for him? A redshirt year in the NFL in 2010, then, if the league has a job action in 2011, a year playing in the United Football League for seasoning in 2012 with a coach like former Giants QB coach Chris Palmer.
Awesome, so after 4 years of college ball in the SEC, Tebow's only 3 years from nearly being a servicable backup QB in NFL. I'd like to see an experiment done where a team drafts Tebow in the late rounds and puts him on this schedule, then buys a trained chimp and does the same thing. Then after 3 years the two could face off in training camp. I bet the chimp at least makes the practice squad.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 01, 2010, 06:41:20 PM
Mike Morts is gonna bring Jake Utler back to the promised land, like he did with Kurr Tworner. That's what Pete King said on PTI today. He also said that Tim Tebow will be an NFL quarterback, so you know that these ramblings are those of an insane person. I mean yeah, he throws like a girl and he's really, really slow but he has heart damn it. He will not take no for an answer. (He really said these things)
Pete King eh. Well then I'm all in on Martz. ALL IN.
Even David Huh (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bears-bold-move-deserves-another-install-turf.html) knows the Bears should get rid of that piece of shit playing surface.
Quote from: R-V on February 03, 2010, 12:53:37 PM
Even David Huh (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bears-bold-move-deserves-another-install-turf.html) knows the Bears should get rid of that piece of shit playing surface.
Quote from: Dave B on September 17, 2009, 11:28:10 AM
I'll bet they don't put in Field Turf because I believe World Cup socceer will only play on natural grass.
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Quote from: CT III on January 28, 2010, 01:51:49 PM
Also, for some reason Chicago is omitted as one of the host cities for the US's 2018 World Cup bid. I know the grass hockee isn't too popular around here, but that's completely idiotic, especially since Indianapolis is included as one of the sites.
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Profit?
Looks like a lockout next year anyways. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/super-bowl/02/04/nflpameeting.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)
Quote from: Pre on February 04, 2010, 05:15:17 PM
Looks like a lockout next year anyways. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/super-bowl/02/04/nflpameeting.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)
Sounded like they meant they'd play this upcoming season while the following season is definitely going to be locked out. That should be an awesome winter. I have to watch college football? Fuck.
It won't get locked out. No Fuck Way.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 08:51:48 AM
It won't get locked out. No Fuck Way.
I have a friend who I see for lunch every month. He's an exec with the NFLPA. "Expect lockout" were his words last month.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 09:40:16 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 08:51:48 AM
It won't get locked out. No Fuck Way.
I have a friend who I see for lunch every month. He's an exec with the NFLPA. "Expect lockout" were his words last month.
Is English his second language?
Quote from: Shooter on February 05, 2010, 09:47:01 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 09:40:16 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 08:51:48 AM
It won't get locked out. No Fuck Way.
I have a friend who I see for lunch every month. He's an exec with the NFLPA. "Expect lockout" were his words last month.
Is English his second language?
Chuck had lunch with Tonto?
Quote from: Fork on February 05, 2010, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: Shooter on February 05, 2010, 09:47:01 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 09:40:16 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 08:51:48 AM
It won't get locked out. No Fuck Way.
I have a friend who I see for lunch every month. He's an exec with the NFLPA. "Expect lockout" were his words last month.
Is English his second language?
Chuck had lunch with Tonto?
Chuck has non-internet friends?
Quote from: BH on February 05, 2010, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: Fork on February 05, 2010, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: Shooter on February 05, 2010, 09:47:01 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 09:40:16 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 08:51:48 AM
It won't get locked out. No Fuck Way.
I have a friend who I see for lunch every month. He's an exec with the NFLPA. "Expect lockout" were his words last month.
Is English his second language?
Chuck had lunch with Tonto?
Chuck has non-internet friends?
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Yay.
rotoworld.
"Bears promoted DL coach Rod Marinelli to defensive coordinator.
Marinelli, who was a defensive line coach in Tampa before his head coaching stint in Detroit and eventual move to Chicago, will call defensive plays for the first time in his career. The Bears decided to stay in-house after whiffing on Perry Fewell, who was their No. 1 target entering the offseason. Marinelli knows the Bears' Tampa-2 scheme as well as anyone, so he's a natural fit despite his inexperience from a play-calling standpoint. Feb. 5 - 4:25 pm et"
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Who said objective? Oh, yeah. You. Is it not possible to have a negative opinion that doesn't include bad mouthing?
Quote from: BH on February 05, 2010, 03:32:59 PM
Yay.
rotoworld.
"Bears promoted DL coach Rod Marinelli to defensive coordinator.
Marinelli, who was a defensive line coach in Tampa before his head coaching stint in Detroit and eventual move to Chicago, will call defensive plays for the first time in his career. The Bears decided to stay in-house after whiffing on Perry Fewell, who was their No. 1 target entering the offseason. Marinelli knows the Bears' Tampa-2 scheme as well as anyone, so he's a natural fit despite his inexperience from a play-calling standpoint. Feb. 5 - 4:25 pm et"
I'd be mad about this if it surprised me or if I cared anymore.
The biggest issue isn't owners v. players it's owners v. owners. Some want to keep the revenue sharing just the way it is (Packers, Bears, etc.) others want it to change dramatically (Cowboys, Redskins, etc.)
Until they agree there isn't going to be anything for the players and owners to negotiate about.
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2010, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: BH on February 05, 2010, 03:32:59 PM
Yay.
rotoworld.
"Bears promoted DL coach Rod Marinelli to defensive coordinator.
Marinelli, who was a defensive line coach in Tampa before his head coaching stint in Detroit and eventual move to Chicago, will call defensive plays for the first time in his career. The Bears decided to stay in-house after whiffing on Perry Fewell, who was their No. 1 target entering the offseason. Marinelli knows the Bears' Tampa-2 scheme as well as anyone, so he's a natural fit despite his inexperience from a play-calling standpoint. Feb. 5 - 4:25 pm et"
I'd be mad about this if it surprised me or if I cared anymore.
THIS.
Ron Turner signs a contract with Stanfoo. Can you imagine how good this makes me feel as a Cal fan?
Quote from: Andy on February 05, 2010, 03:57:19 PM
The biggest issue isn't owners v. players it's owners v. owners. Some want to keep the revenue sharing just the way it is (Packers, Bears, etc.) others want it to change dramatically (Cowboys, Redskins, etc.)
Until they agree there isn't going to be anything for the players and owners to negotiate about.
Ain't that the way it always is?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Who said objective? Oh, yeah. You. Is it not possible to have a negative opinion that doesn't include bad mouthing?
Semantics. There will be no lockout. It's suicide.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Who said objective? Oh, yeah. You. Is it not possible to have a negative opinion that doesn't include bad mouthing?
Semantics. There will be no lockout. It's suicide.
All the NFL will have to do to win back the fans after a lockout is have the players start taking steroids. It worked for baseball.
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2010, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Who said objective? Oh, yeah. You. Is it not possible to have a negative opinion that doesn't include bad mouthing?
Semantics. There will be no lockout. It's suicide.
All the NFL will have to do to win back the fans after a lockout is have the players start taking steroids. It worked for baseball.
When did they stop taking them? Oh, you mean they'd take a hiatus during the lockout? That's just crazy enough to work!
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2010, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Who said objective? Oh, yeah. You. Is it not possible to have a negative opinion that doesn't include bad mouthing?
Semantics. There will be no lockout. It's suicide.
All the NFL will have to do to win back the fans after a lockout is have the players start taking steroids. It worked for baseball.
When did they stop taking them? Oh, you mean they'd take a hiatus during the lockout? That's just crazy enough to work!
NFL players take steroids? I had no idea. Next you're going to tell me NBA players smoke a lot of weed.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Who said objective? Oh, yeah. You. Is it not possible to have a negative opinion that doesn't include bad mouthing?
Semantics. There will be no lockout. It's suicide.
$5 billion with little overhead goes a long way.
Quote from: Oleg on February 06, 2010, 01:57:57 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Who said objective? Oh, yeah. You. Is it not possible to have a negative opinion that doesn't include bad mouthing?
Semantics. There will be no lockout. It's suicide.
$5 billion with little overhead goes a long way.
That's what she said.
Quote from: Oleg on February 06, 2010, 01:57:57 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
And since Tonto is working for the NFLPA, and he's bad-mouthing the owners privately, this should be considered a foregone conclusion? I realize Chuck didn't say that, but what the fuck should we expect that guy to say?
Actually, he wasn't bad mouthing anyone. He simply stated what his expectations were.
And his expectations were that the owners were not willing to work out a deal with the players and would simply lock them out and hurt their product inestimably? We get it. You have sources and they're all completely objective.
Who said objective? Oh, yeah. You. Is it not possible to have a negative opinion that doesn't include bad mouthing?
Semantics. There will be no lockout. It's suicide.
$5 billion with little overhead goes a long way.
Isn't everything overhead for you?
www.rotoworld.com
"Browns released WR Donte' Stallworth.
He didn't last 24 hours on the offseason roster after being reinstated from his one-year suspension Monday morning. Stallworth is still only 29, but was completely ineffective the last time he played, catching just 17 balls for 170 yards and a single touchdown in 11 games opposite Braylon Edwards in 2008. He'll be lucky to get more than a one-year deal for the veteran's minimum, and is a long shot to ever reappear on the fantasy radar again. Feb. 8 - 5:39 pm et"
Does killing a dude exemplify bear football or what? We need this level of intensity.
Quote from: BH on February 08, 2010, 04:54:20 PM
www.rotoworld.com
"Browns released WR Donte' Stallworth.
He didn't last 24 hours on the offseason roster after being reinstated from his one-year suspension Monday morning. Stallworth is still only 29, but was completely ineffective the last time he played, catching just 17 balls for 170 yards and a single touchdown in 11 games opposite Braylon Edwards in 2008. He'll be lucky to get more than a one-year deal for the veteran's minimum, and is a long shot to ever reappear on the fantasy radar again. Feb. 8 - 5:39 pm et"
Does killing a dude exemplify bear football or what? We need this level of intensity.
Sounds more like a Raider to me. Pride and poise.
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 08, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Awesome, sign him to coach the wide receivers then. As a coach.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 08, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Yeah, but let's not forget that Andy was pregnant with twins.
That's true, I was scoring for three.
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 08, 2010, 06:57:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 08, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Awesome, sign him to coach the wide receivers then. As a coach.
I'm with you but I'm not convinced he wouldn't be an upgrade to all but maybe Hester, who sucks.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 08, 2010, 06:57:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 08, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Awesome, sign him to coach the wide receivers then. As a coach.
I'm with you but I'm not convinced he wouldn't be an upgrade to all but maybe Hester, who sucks.
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the Orlando Pace experience has crushed whatever goodwill that Greg Maddux built up for my teams signing great players in decline.
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 09, 2010, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 08, 2010, 06:57:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 08, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Awesome, sign him to coach the wide receivers then. As a coach.
I'm with you but I'm not convinced he wouldn't be an upgrade to all but maybe Hester, who sucks.
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the Orlando Pace experience has crushed whatever goodwill that Greg Maddux built up for my teams signing great players in decline.
All the goodwill will come back when the Cubs give DeRo a 2-year deal in 2014.
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 09, 2010, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 08, 2010, 06:57:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 08, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Awesome, sign him to coach the wide receivers then. As a coach.
I'm with you but I'm not convinced he wouldn't be an upgrade to all but maybe Hester, who sucks.
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the Orlando Pace experience has crushed whatever goodwill that Greg Maddux built up for my teams signing great players in decline.
Funny. For me it was Greg Maddux who crushed whatever goodwill that existed for my teams signing great players in decline.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 09, 2010, 10:59:03 AM
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Quote from: Internet Apex on February 08, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Awesome, sign him to coach the wide receivers then. As a coach.
I'm with you but I'm not convinced he wouldn't be an upgrade to all but maybe Hester, who sucks.
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the Orlando Pace experience has crushed whatever goodwill that Greg Maddux built up for my teams signing great players in decline.
Funny. For me it was Greg Maddux who crushed whatever goodwill that existed for my teams signing great players in decline.
Yeah, I can see how an aging veteran who actually lived up to the terms of his contract can do that for you.
Quote from: MAD on February 09, 2010, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 09, 2010, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on February 08, 2010, 06:57:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 08, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 08, 2010, 05:05:36 PM
From Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=412
The Jags are expected to waive Torry Holt, and the Bears are likely to try to sign him, or even claim him off waivers to force him to play for them.
Hey, whatever it takes to sign a once great WR who caught as many touchdown passes as I did last year.
He was drawing a little tougher coverage than you were and still blocks better. Eh, I don't know. I'm on the fence here. You've touched a lot of people, sure. But this guy could really coach up the young'ens in this new Martz clusterfuck and all that.
Awesome, sign him to coach the wide receivers then. As a coach.
I'm with you but I'm not convinced he wouldn't be an upgrade to all but maybe Hester, who sucks.
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the Orlando Pace experience has crushed whatever goodwill that Greg Maddux built up for my teams signing great players in decline.
Funny. For me it was Greg Maddux who crushed whatever goodwill that existed for my teams signing great players in decline.
Yeah, I can see how an aging veteran who actually lived up to the terms of his contract can do that for you.
I know I was heartbroken that he filled a role that he was asked to fill.
I was really disappointed when he led the Cubs in wins in 2004.
He only won 38 games for the Cubs in those three years, then six more for the Dodgers after he was traded for the awesome Cesar Izturis. I expected more than 15 wins per season from a 38 year old.
Wouldn't it be a good thing to retire this thread and put that whole mess behind us?
Quote from: CBStew on February 09, 2010, 11:41:06 AM
Wouldn't it be a good thing to retire this thread and put that whole mess behind us?
Yes. There are definitely a few other threads that could be retired, too.
I was just fucking around. The Cubs blew during that second stint and Maddux was not the reason why. But I kept being reminded about how good he was after the Cubs let him go and it made me angry. And now I'm bitter. So the experience was not a good one for me and I don't think the Bears should sign Torry Holt as a result of it.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
I was just fucking around. The Cubs blew during that second stint and Maddux was not the reason why. But I kept being reminded about how good he was after the Cubs let him go and it made me angry. And now I'm bitter. So the experience was not a good one for me and I don't think the Bears should sign Torry Holt as a result of it.
Good. Now can we close this thread?
Quote from: CBStew on February 09, 2010, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
I was just fucking around. The Cubs blew during that second stint and Maddux was not the reason why. But I kept being reminded about how good he was after the Cubs let him go and it made me angry. And now I'm bitter. So the experience was not a good one for me and I don't think the Bears should sign Torry Holt as a result of it.
Good. Now can we close this thread?
We're hesitant to do so because the only thing offering the potential for more disappointment than the 2009 Bears squad is the 2010 Bears squad.
Quote from: SKO on February 09, 2010, 03:08:53 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 09, 2010, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
I was just fucking around. The Cubs blew during that second stint and Maddux was not the reason why. But I kept being reminded about how good he was after the Cubs let him go and it made me angry. And now I'm bitter. So the experience was not a good one for me and I don't think the Bears should sign Torry Holt as a result of it.
Good. Now can we close this thread?
We're hesitant to do so because the only thing offering the potential for more disappointment than the 2009 Bears squad is the 2010 Bears squad.
I think if you're setting a bar anywhere above the ground for 2010 you deserve to be disappointed.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 09, 2010, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 09, 2010, 03:08:53 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 09, 2010, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
I was just fucking around. The Cubs blew during that second stint and Maddux was not the reason why. But I kept being reminded about how good he was after the Cubs let him go and it made me angry. And now I'm bitter. So the experience was not a good one for me and I don't think the Bears should sign Torry Holt as a result of it.
Good. Now can we close this thread?
We're hesitant to do so because the only thing offering the potential for more disappointment than the 2009 Bears squad is the 2010 Bears squad.
I think if you're setting a bar anywhere above the ground for 2010 you deserve to be disappointed.
Fair enough. I don't really have expectations, but that somehow doesn't prevent the sadness and alcoholism.
Quote from: SKO on February 09, 2010, 04:11:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 09, 2010, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 09, 2010, 03:08:53 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 09, 2010, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 09, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
I was just fucking around. The Cubs blew during that second stint and Maddux was not the reason why. But I kept being reminded about how good he was after the Cubs let him go and it made me angry. And now I'm bitter. So the experience was not a good one for me and I don't think the Bears should sign Torry Holt as a result of it.
Good. Now can we close this thread?
We're hesitant to do so because the only thing offering the potential for more disappointment than the 2009 Bears squad is the 2010 Bears squad.
I think if you're setting a bar anywhere above the ground for 2010 you deserve to be disappointed.
Fair enough. I don't really have expectations, but that somehow doesn't prevent the sadness and alcoholism.
You're young yet. You'll learn that nothing can prevent those two things.
Good riddance. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7207.0)
Bump...
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Peanut disagrees:
(http://i.imgur.com/cOjU7.jpg)
He's hip-hop, bro. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192452#msg192452)
Meatball math homework via. (http://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/v0v9o/peanut_tillman_sends_a_message_to_my_math_teacher/)
QuoteMy math teacher assigned the above question, and Peanut was promoting his charity at my dad's running store. I was doing my homework, saw the question and realized it was perfect. I asked for just an autograph on the homework, but being the awesome individual he is, he wrote this gem. My teacher could not stop laughing. I got outta homework for a whole week thanks to good ol' number 33.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 14, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Bump...
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Peanut disagrees:
(http://i.imgur.com/cOjU7.jpg)
He's hip-hop, bro. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192452#msg192452)
Meatball math homework via. (http://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/v0v9o/peanut_tillman_sends_a_message_to_my_math_teacher/)
QuoteMy math teacher assigned the above question, and Peanut was promoting his charity at my dad's running store. I was doing my homework, saw the question and realized it was perfect. I asked for just an autograph on the homework, but being the awesome individual he is, he wrote this gem. My teacher could not stop laughing. I got outta homework for a whole week thanks to good ol' number 33.
No matter how you spell it, I hope he lives a thousand years.
Goddamn, Peanut Tillman OWNS SO HARD
Quote from: Slaky on June 15, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
Goddamn, Peanut Tillman OWNS SO HARD
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I would have his kids.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 14, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Bump...
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Peanut disagrees:
(http://i.imgur.com/cOjU7.jpg)
He's hip-hop, bro. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192452#msg192452)
Meatball math homework via. (http://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/v0v9o/peanut_tillman_sends_a_message_to_my_math_teacher/)
QuoteMy math teacher assigned the above question, and Peanut was promoting his charity at my dad's running store. I was doing my homework, saw the question and realized it was perfect. I asked for just an autograph on the homework, but being the awesome individual he is, he wrote this gem. My teacher could not stop laughing. I got outta homework for a whole week thanks to good ol' number 33.
Tillman to the rescue. I wouldn't have the first inkling of how to go about solving that problem.
Quote from: CBStew on June 15, 2012, 11:34:26 AM
Tillman to the rescue. I wouldn't have the first inkling of how to go about solving that problem.
The answer to this, and all life's problems is J'Marcus Webb.
Quote from: CBStew on June 15, 2012, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 14, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Bump...
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Peanut disagrees:
(http://i.imgur.com/cOjU7.jpg)
He's hip-hop, bro. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192452#msg192452)
Meatball math homework via. (http://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/v0v9o/peanut_tillman_sends_a_message_to_my_math_teacher/)
QuoteMy math teacher assigned the above question, and Peanut was promoting his charity at my dad's running store. I was doing my homework, saw the question and realized it was perfect. I asked for just an autograph on the homework, but being the awesome individual he is, he wrote this gem. My teacher could not stop laughing. I got outta homework for a whole week thanks to good ol' number 33.
Tillman to the rescue. I wouldn't have the first inkling of how to go about solving that problem.
.2 * .2 * .2 * .2 = 0.0016
1 - (.8 * .8 * .8 * .8) = 0.5904
0.16% chance the Bears sweep the four games.
59% chance the Bears win at least one in four.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 15, 2012, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 15, 2012, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 14, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Bump...
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Peanut disagrees:
(http://i.imgur.com/cOjU7.jpg)
He's hip-hop, bro. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192452#msg192452)
Meatball math homework via. (http://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/v0v9o/peanut_tillman_sends_a_message_to_my_math_teacher/)
QuoteMy math teacher assigned the above question, and Peanut was promoting his charity at my dad's running store. I was doing my homework, saw the question and realized it was perfect. I asked for just an autograph on the homework, but being the awesome individual he is, he wrote this gem. My teacher could not stop laughing. I got outta homework for a whole week thanks to good ol' number 33.
Tillman to the rescue. I wouldn't have the first inkling of how to go about solving that problem.
.2 * .2 * .2 * .2 = 0.0016
1 - (.8 * .8 * .8 * .8) = 0.5904
0.16% chance the Bears sweep the four games.
59% chance the Bears win at least one in four.
(fuck you)
"our team, city, and beloved Chicago Bears."
Good thing it wasn't English homework.
Quote from: Fork on June 15, 2012, 01:18:52 PM
"our team, city, and beloved Chicago Bears."
Good thing it wasn't English homework.
He wasn't "All Pro" either if you want to pick nits. And if you do, you can go sit in the corner with Paul, Fro, BC and the rest of the dunces. Because this is what Peanut does. He lets you catch him on some technical shit and then he runs up and knocks your balls out for you.
Quote from: Fork on June 15, 2012, 01:18:52 PM
"our team, city, and beloved Chicago Bears."
Good thing it wasn't English homework.
Yeah... I see nothing wrong with that at all.
"our team, [our] city, and [our] beloved Chicago Bears."
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 15, 2012, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 15, 2012, 01:18:52 PM
"our team, city, and beloved Chicago Bears."
Good thing it wasn't English homework.
Yeah... I see nothing wrong with that at all.
"our team, [our] city, and [our] beloved Chicago Bears."
Unless he's speaking about the animals at Lincoln Park Zoo when he says Chicago Bears or he's pulling for the Ragin Cajuns' when he says "our team," that's clearly a redundancy.
Quote from: Brownie on June 15, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 15, 2012, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 15, 2012, 01:18:52 PM
"our team, city, and beloved Chicago Bears."
Good thing it wasn't English homework.
Yeah... I see nothing wrong with that at all.
"our team, [our] city, and [our] beloved Chicago Bears."
Unless he's speaking about the animals at Lincoln Park Zoo when he says Chicago Bears or he's pulling for the Ragin Cajuns' when he says "our team," that's clearly a redundancy.
Interesting...
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 15, 2012, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 15, 2012, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 14, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Bump...
Quote from: MAD on September 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
P'NUT
Dude ain't no honkey-ass, whitebread Charles Schultz creation, and I don't care how his big momma spell it.
Peanut disagrees:
(http://i.imgur.com/cOjU7.jpg)
He's hip-hop, bro. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6988.msg192452#msg192452)
Meatball math homework via. (http://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/v0v9o/peanut_tillman_sends_a_message_to_my_math_teacher/)
QuoteMy math teacher assigned the above question, and Peanut was promoting his charity at my dad's running store. I was doing my homework, saw the question and realized it was perfect. I asked for just an autograph on the homework, but being the awesome individual he is, he wrote this gem. My teacher could not stop laughing. I got outta homework for a whole week thanks to good ol' number 33.
Tillman to the rescue. I wouldn't have the first inkling of how to go about solving that problem.
.2 * .2 * .2 * .2 = 0.0016
1 - (.8 * .8 * .8 * .8) = 0.5904
0.16% chance the Bears sweep the four games.
59% chance the Bears win at least one in four.
I have a fever and a cough today yet I'm stuck at my desk where I'm a lamer duck than an outgoing president at 8 am January 20. And PenFoe has been destroying me at Words With Friends, so I'm a little cantankerous and want to point out the inanity of this question.
If the Packers have an .800 record (suppose they are 8-2 after 10 games), then you can say they have a 41% chance of winning the next four games against average opponents. Nowhere is there mention of trends, or quality of opponents or any Boolean values generated by the samples determining the Packers have an 80% chance of winning, and other statfag things that only nerds like Bill James, Billy Beane and Theo Epstink care about.
You also must factor in the records of the teams Green Bay played, the records of the teams the Bears played, the location of the games, the date of the games, significant injuries, whether Omiyale is at LT, whether Cutler has his legs and hands intact, the week's cheese product out of Wisconsin, the ph value of Mark Chmura's hottub, the number of players listed on Charles Martin's towel, the Vicodin and celldong photos of any past starting quarterback, the mileage to the FedEx store closest to Miller Park open past 5 pm on a Friday, and the Pantone value of Mike Ditka's skin tone.
Once this is all packaged up, and Jimmy the Greek used to do a
good job of this, you look at the numbers and say: "After the game is over, the Bears spend the night in Chicago and the Packers spend theirs in Greater Green Bay."
I think by this standard, the Bears are undefeated.
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/551571_10150982655279452_346263544_n.jpg)
Quote from: Brownie on June 15, 2012, 03:18:56 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/551571_10150982655279452_346263544_n.jpg)
Yes.
Quote from: Fork on June 15, 2012, 01:18:52 PM
"our team, city, and beloved Chicago Bears."
Good thing it wasn't English homework.
(http://i.imgur.com/cOjU7.jpg)
Good thing, indeed. I would then ask why the obvious trailing comma after "The Packers, being a much better team
," was omitted.