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Quote from: BH on February 11, 2010, 12:37:21 PM
No clue if this is real, but if it is, holy shit is it complex.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2945347/2000-Rams-Martz-Offense

Quote from: CT III on February 16, 2010, 12:10:44 PM
What am I to make of the Bobby DePaul firing?  SKO, I need to know what to think!

Quote from: BH on February 16, 2010, 12:17:56 PM

Quote from: CT III on February 16, 2010, 12:10:44 PM
What am I to make of the Bobby DePaul firing?  SKO, I need to know what to think!

Absolutely nothing is what you should make of this. It's just rearranging shit that won't matter for 2010, then watching the new guy get fired after the season. It gives the bears another guy to blame for sucking last year, even though DePaul was "best known for engineering the trade for quarterback Jay Cutler." Bear football.

Quote from: BH on February 16, 2010, 12:17:56 PM

Quote from: CT III on February 16, 2010, 12:10:44 PM
What am I to make of the Bobby DePaul firing?  SKO, I need to know what to think!

Absolutely nothing is what you should make of this. It's just rearranging shit that won't matter for 2010, then watching the new guy get fired after the season. It gives the bears another guy to blame for sucking last year, even though DePaul was "best known for engineering the trade for quarterback Jay Cutler." Bear football.

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.

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Second Hand Lions?

WTF?

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.

[ Googling... ]

Second Hand Lions?

WTF?

Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 11:55:03 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.

[ Googling... ]

Second Hand Lions?

WTF?

Tank just wants to act like he didn't know that beforehand.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM

Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.

[ Googling... ]

Second Hand Lions?

WTF?

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article (http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article)

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article (http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article)

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article (http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article)

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article (http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article)

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article (http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article)

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:58:52 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article (http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article)

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

Yeah, I sensed that.  We cool?

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article (http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article)

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:59:46 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:58:52 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM

Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article (http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article)

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

Yeah, I sensed that.  We cool?

We're cool.

Quote from: MAD on February 20, 2010, 10:30:31 AM
I just heard Rosendouche on the SCORE lamenting that Jerry Angelo drafted Cedric Benson in the first round when he CLEARLY had a better running back in Thomas Jones.   That's funny.  I don't remember Jones ending the 2004 as anything other than a borderline journeyman who may or may not have finally justified his first-round status by averaging 67 yards per game with the Bears--his third team in 5 NFL seasons.  

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

ChuckD's ears are burning.

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 03:48:50 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

ChuckD's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 05:48:10 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 03:48:50 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

ChuckD's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

I don't know. Does that mean "sparked a joint while listening to Low End Theory?" Because I've done that a time or twenty.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 06:01:25 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 05:48:10 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 03:48:50 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

ChuckD's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

I don't know. Does that mean "sparked a joint while listening to Low End Theory?" Because I've done that a time or twenty.

Apex's ears are burning.

Quote from: MAD on February 20, 2010, 10:30:31 AM
I just heard Rosendouche on the SCORE lamenting that Jerry Angelo drafted Cedric Benson in the first round when he CLEARLY had a better running back in Thomas Jones.   That's funny.  I don't remember Jones ending the 2004 as anything other than a borderline journeyman who may or may not have finally justified his first-round status by averaging 67 yards per game with the Bears--his third team in 5 NFL seasons.  

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 06:11:56 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 06:01:25 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 05:48:10 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 03:48:50 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

ChuckD's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

I don't know. Does that mean "sparked a joint while listening to Low End Theory?" Because I've done that a time or twenty.

Apex's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 20, 2010, 09:21:28 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 06:11:56 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 06:01:25 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 05:48:10 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 03:48:50 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

ChuckD's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

I don't know. Does that mean "sparked a joint while listening to Low End Theory?" Because I've done that a time or twenty.

Apex's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

It was a gummi bear.

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 10:09:04 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 20, 2010, 09:21:28 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 06:11:56 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 06:01:25 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 05:48:10 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 03:48:50 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

ChuckD's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

I don't know. Does that mean "sparked a joint while listening to Low End Theory?" Because I've done that a time or twenty.

Apex's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

It was a gummi bear.

Would you two stop saying "gummi" so much?

Quote from: BBM on February 20, 2010, 11:12:26 PM

Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 10:09:04 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 20, 2010, 09:21:28 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 06:11:56 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 06:01:25 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on February 20, 2010, 05:48:10 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 03:48:50 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 20, 2010, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on February 20, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
The worst thing about Rosenbloom is not that he's an out-of-touch douche.  Its that he hasn't had an original idea in his entire career.  For every single major sporting event that has occurred int he last 10 years, you could say to yourself "what is the standard columnist response to this?" and that's what Rosenbloom will write.  You could literally replace him with a computerized column generator and it would make absolutely no difference. 

ChuckD's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

I don't know. Does that mean "sparked a joint while listening to Low End Theory?" Because I've done that a time or twenty.

Apex's ears are burning.

He lit a Q-Tip?

It was a gummi bear.

Would you two stop saying "gummi" so much?

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/Halman/The%20Simpsons/SweetCan.png)

Quote from: CT III on February 22, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
LT released:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783)

The Bears could use a washed-up running back...

Quote from: Yeti on February 23, 2010, 03:04:25 PM

Quote from: CT III on February 22, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
LT released:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783)

The Bears could use a washed-up running back...

Or Westbrook (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/23/eagles-westbrook.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

I need some SKOnalysis

Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2010, 04:57:08 PM

Quote from: Yeti on February 23, 2010, 03:04:25 PM

Quote from: CT III on February 22, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
LT released:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783)

The Bears could use a washed-up running back...

Or Westbrook (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/23/eagles-westbrook.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

I need some SKOnalysis

Well, both of them have the same skillset as Forte. They'd both fit well in Martz's offense, whatever that means. They'd also be better than Kahlil Bell. My guess is that they'll want more money than the Bears would sign them for and it'll all be a moot point anyways because I don't think Angelo has any sort of plan whatsoever in regards to fixing the offensive line. My analysis? Root for the Saints.

Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2010, 04:57:08 PM

Quote from: Yeti on February 23, 2010, 03:04:25 PM

Quote from: CT III on February 22, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
LT released:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783)

The Bears could use a washed-up running back...

Or Westbrook (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/23/eagles-westbrook.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

I need some SKOnalysis

Well, both of them have the same skillset as Forte. They'd both fit well in Martz's offense, whatever that means. They'd also be better than Kahlil Bell. My guess is that they'll want more money than the Bears would sign them for and it'll all be a moot point anyways because I don't think Angelo has any sort of plan whatsoever in regards to fixing the offensive line. My analysis? Root for the Saints.

Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2010, 04:58:13 PM
DPD, oh, and, if I had my druthers, I'd take Westbrook.

Quote from: Pre on February 23, 2010, 10:39:58 PM

Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2010, 04:58:13 PM
DPD, oh, and, if I had my druthers, I'd take Westbrook.

While I think we all agree it will never happen, it would be awesome if the Bears signed him.

Awesome to set up a pool for how many minutes of game time until his career is ended from
concussion and/or death.

QuoteThe Chicago Bears are gearing up for a major run at Julius Peppers, a league source said Tuesday, and Aaron Kampman also is an option for a team that's intent on landing a pass-rushing defensive end this offseason.

Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2010, 10:33:45 AM
This doesn't seem like it could be true, but here it is (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8168c92c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true) anyway.

QuoteThe Chicago Bears are gearing up for a major run at Julius Peppers, a league source said Tuesday, and Aaron Kampman also is an option for a team that's intent on landing a pass-rushing defensive end this offseason.

Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 11:55:01 AM

Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2010, 10:33:45 AM
This doesn't seem like it could be true, but here it is (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8168c92c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true) anyway.

QuoteThe Chicago Bears are gearing up for a major run at Julius Peppers, a league source said Tuesday, and Aaron Kampman also is an option for a team that's intent on landing a pass-rushing defensive end this offseason.

I'm sitting at my desk imagining how good these 2 guys could be under the leadership of Rod Marinelli.
If we get one of these guys, I'm putting the rest of the NFL on notice.
Bear football.

Quote"We need to improve our safety position, period," Smith said. "Haven't been pleased with the production we've gotten. I think we had one interception from the safety position. That was one of the reasons why I feel like our takeaways were down this year. We need to bring in or just get more competition and just improvement in general."

It's expected that the Bears will target Antrel Rolle, who figures to be released by the Arizona Cardinals. The converted cornerback is due to earn $12 million this year. The Cardinals want Rolle back, but are not going to pay him more than fellow safety Adrian Wilson, and know there is a risk in letting him go.

Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:27:25 AM
It only took Lovie 5 years to figure this out (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/lovie-smith-bears-need-to-invest-at-safety.html):

Quote"We need to improve our safety position, period," Smith said. "Haven't been pleased with the production we've gotten. I think we had one interception from the safety position. That was one of the reasons why I feel like our takeaways were down this year. We need to bring in or just get more competition and just improvement in general."

It's expected that the Bears will target Antrel Rolle, who figures to be released by the Arizona Cardinals. The converted cornerback is due to earn $12 million this year. The Cardinals want Rolle back, but are not going to pay him more than fellow safety Adrian Wilson, and know there is a risk in letting him go.

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 26, 2010, 11:41:34 AM

Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:27:25 AM
It only took Lovie 5 years to figure this out (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/lovie-smith-bears-need-to-invest-at-safety.html):

Quote"We need to improve our safety position, period," Smith said. "Haven't been pleased with the production we've gotten. I think we had one interception from the safety position. That was one of the reasons why I feel like our takeaways were down this year. We need to bring in or just get more competition and just improvement in general."

It's expected that the Bears will target Antrel Rolle, who figures to be released by the Arizona Cardinals. The converted cornerback is due to earn $12 million this year. The Cardinals want Rolle back, but are not going to pay him more than fellow safety Adrian Wilson, and know there is a risk in letting him go.

I don't think he just figured it out and drafted shitty safeties on purpose because he thought it would be cute. I just think he and Angelo don't have a fucking clue what a decent one actually looks like.

Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:47:01 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 26, 2010, 11:41:34 AM

Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:27:25 AM
It only took Lovie 5 years to figure this out (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/lovie-smith-bears-need-to-invest-at-safety.html):

Quote"We need to improve our safety position, period," Smith said. "Haven't been pleased with the production we've gotten. I think we had one interception from the safety position. That was one of the reasons why I feel like our takeaways were down this year. We need to bring in or just get more competition and just improvement in general."

It's expected that the Bears will target Antrel Rolle, who figures to be released by the Arizona Cardinals. The converted cornerback is due to earn $12 million this year. The Cardinals want Rolle back, but are not going to pay him more than fellow safety Adrian Wilson, and know there is a risk in letting him go.

I don't think he just figured it out and drafted shitty safeties on purpose because he thought it would be cute. I just think he and Angelo don't have a fucking clue what a decent one actually looks like.

I don't think they drafted shitty ones on purpose. I think they thought they could get by with the PayneSteltzGrahamAfalava 4th and 5th round pick extravaganza without investing in a first round draft pick or big free agent.

Quote from: SKO on February 26, 2010, 02:14:33 PM
What's sad is they had a pretty good safety in Chris Harris and traded him to make room for Archuletta.

Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2010, 04:57:08 PM

Quote from: Yeti on February 23, 2010, 03:04:25 PM

Quote from: CT III on February 22, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
LT released:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783)

The Bears could use a washed-up running back...

Or Westbrook (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/23/eagles-westbrook.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

I need some SKOnalysis

Well, both of them have the same skillset as Forte. They'd both fit well in Martz's offense, whatever that means. They'd also be better than Kahlil Bell. My guess is that they'll want more money than the Bears would sign them for and it'll all be a moot point anyways because I don't think Angelo has any sort of plan whatsoever in regards to fixing the offensive line. My analysis? Root for the Saints.

Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 02:44:27 PM

Quote from: SKO on February 26, 2010, 02:14:33 PM
What's sad is they had a pretty good safety in Chris Harris and traded him to make room for Archuletta.

Sure, but Harris wasn't fantastic with the Bears.  While Archuleta was a mistake, at
the time Harris behind Manning at safety and I always thought he was best at putting
big hits on our CBs instead of the WRs.  I just don't know of anyone who would have
said that between Manning, Harris, McGowen, and Payne that they would definitely
have wanted to keep Harris.  They also got a pick for him, not like they just cut him.

I just think that of all the bad moves the Bears have made personnel wise, this one
is mostly hindsight nit picking.

Quote from: PenFoe on February 26, 2010, 03:12:28 PM

Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2010, 04:57:08 PM

Quote from: Yeti on February 23, 2010, 03:04:25 PM

Quote from: CT III on February 22, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
LT released:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783)

The Bears could use a washed-up running back...

Or Westbrook (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/23/eagles-westbrook.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

I need some SKOnalysis

Well, both of them have the same skillset as Forte. They'd both fit well in Martz's offense, whatever that means. They'd also be better than Kahlil Bell. My guess is that they'll want more money than the Bears would sign them for and it'll all be a moot point anyways because I don't think Angelo has any sort of plan whatsoever in regards to fixing the offensive line. My analysis? Root for the Saints.

The Westbrook wrinkle.  (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4949076&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)

Quote from: SKO on February 26, 2010, 03:13:59 PM

Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 02:44:27 PM
I just don't know of anyone who would have said that between Manning, Harris, McGowen,
and Payne that they would definitely have wanted to keep Harris. 

I was against it at the time and still am. I never liked Danieal Manning. HE HAS A GIRL'S NAME.

Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 03:38:36 PM
So Brian Westbrook hasn't watched a Bears game in several years and really wants to play football somewhere next year. Got it.

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 09:13:03 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/olsen-unhappy-with-hiring-of-martz-wants-a-trade/ - Olsen wants out because Martz hates tight ends. While I typically dislike Olsen and his frequent bouts with fumbles and dropped passes and his inability to block anything, I'm not sure I'm all that eager about trading him for what would probably be a shitty pick just so they can sign Manumaleuna to be fat.

Quote from: Eli on March 03, 2010, 09:34:55 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 09:13:03 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/olsen-unhappy-with-hiring-of-martz-wants-a-trade/ - Olsen wants out because Martz hates tight ends. While I typically dislike Olsen and his frequent bouts with fumbles and dropped passes and his inability to block anything, I'm not sure I'm all that eager about trading him for what would probably be a shitty pick just so they can sign Manumaleuna to be fat.

Isn't the rumor that he'd go to the Patriots for one of their second rounders?  That'd seem to be pretty decent value for him. 

Quote from: Brownie on March 03, 2010, 09:49:01 AM
A good coach tailors his system to his personnel, especially his good personnel. He resists the temptation to shed good personnel for shitty personnel just so it fits his idealized system.

The Bears have good players and shitty players. Unfortunately, they lack a good coach.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 03, 2010, 09:55:29 AM

Quote from: Brownie on March 03, 2010, 09:49:01 AM
A good coach tailors his system to his personnel, especially his good personnel. He resists the temptation to shed good personnel for shitty personnel just so it fits his idealized system.

The Bears have good players and shitty players. Unfortunately, they lack a good coach.

How many coaches actually do that?  Parcells and...?

Most of these coaches are egomaniacs.  "I'm the coach and I know how to do this!"  More often than not, they are wrong.  Why?

Most of them are also Peter Principle candidates.

Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 10:01:09 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 03, 2010, 09:55:29 AM

Quote from: Brownie on March 03, 2010, 09:49:01 AM
A good coach tailors his system to his personnel, especially his good personnel. He resists the temptation to shed good personnel for shitty personnel just so it fits his idealized system.

The Bears have good players and shitty players. Unfortunately, they lack a good coach.

How many coaches actually do that?  Parcells and...?

Most of these coaches are egomaniacs.  "I'm the coach and I know how to do this!"  More often than not, they are wrong.  Why?

Most of them are also Peter Principle candidates.

I'd have no problem with the Bears trying to remake their offensive roster to try and fit with Martz's system if I didn't think the whole damn lot of the coaching staff was going to be fired next year.  That's what sucks here.  No, Olsen isn't a great fit for Martz's offense, but he's pretty damn good fit in most others, and we'll likely be seeing a new offensive coordinator in a year's time.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 03, 2010, 09:55:29 AM

Quote from: Brownie on March 03, 2010, 09:49:01 AM
A good coach tailors his system to his personnel, especially his good personnel. He resists the temptation to shed good personnel for shitty personnel just so it fits his idealized system.

The Bears have good players and shitty players. Unfortunately, they lack a good coach.

How many coaches actually do that?  Parcells and...?

Most of these coaches are egomaniacs.  "I'm the coach and I know how to do this!"  More often than not, they are wrong.  Why?

Most of them are also Peter Principle candidates.

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 03, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
I don't know about Olsen. I would say he's a pretty good tight end, but not this game changing elite tight end that the Bears seemed to believe. If the Bears could get a second rounder I'd say make the trade.

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender.

Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 10:22:28 AM
Take the second round pick.  Stiffler sucks, and I'm tired of Cutler going out of his way to turn shit into shinola just because he's his bro.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 10:30:58 AM

Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 10:22:28 AM
Take the second round pick.  Stiffler sucks, and I'm tired of Cutler going out of his way to turn shit into shinola just because he's his bro.

Dude, Where's My Garbanzo Bean Salad?

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 03, 2010, 09:55:29 AM

Quote from: Brownie on March 03, 2010, 09:49:01 AM
A good coach tailors his system to his personnel, especially his good personnel. He resists the temptation to shed good personnel for shitty personnel just so it fits his idealized system.

The Bears have good players and shitty players. Unfortunately, they lack a good coach.

How many coaches actually do that?  Parcells and...?

Quote from: Eli on March 03, 2010, 10:25:12 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender.

You don't think signing, say, Kampman/Peppers and Rolle/Sharper would add 2-3 wins from last year?  What about if they manage to shore up the o-line a bit?  If they're willing to spend some money this offseason (and it sounds like they are), I think they definitely could be a playoff "contender."  It's not like they went 2-14 last year.

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 03, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
I don't know about Olsen. I would say he's a pretty good tight end, but not this game changing elite tight end that the Bears seemed to believe. If the Bears could get a second rounder I'd say make the trade.

If we're talking about a competent GM here. I realize ten minutes ago I just said it was a good deal, but I'm changing my mind. Angelo would find a way, in one of the most promising drafts in years, to fuck up that 2nd round pick. Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender. Nothing. I'd say it'd be best for all involved if they just sat tight, went 5-11, fired everyone, and left the important decisions to the next staff.

Quote from: Brownie on March 03, 2010, 10:38:24 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 03, 2010, 09:55:29 AM

Quote from: Brownie on March 03, 2010, 09:49:01 AM
A good coach tailors his system to his personnel, especially his good personnel. He resists the temptation to shed good personnel for shitty personnel just so it fits his idealized system.

The Bears have good players and shitty players. Unfortunately, they lack a good coach.

How many coaches actually do that?  Parcells and...?

Don Shula
Chuck Noll
Tom Landry
Weeb Ewbank
Bill Cowher
Marty Schottenheimer
Jon Gruden

Oh, you're looking for current coaches?
Wade Phillips Sean Payton
Andy Reid
Bill Bellichick
Tom Coughlin (waiting for Fork's angry response)
Mike McCarthy
Mike Tomlin (as Shooter mentioned)

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 03, 2010, 10:45:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 03, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
I don't know about Olsen. I would say he's a pretty good tight end, but not this game changing elite tight end that the Bears seemed to believe. If the Bears could get a second rounder I'd say make the trade.

If we're talking about a competent GM here. I realize ten minutes ago I just said it was a good deal, but I'm changing my mind. Angelo would find a way, in one of the most promising drafts in years, to fuck up that 2nd round pick. Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender. Nothing. I'd say it'd be best for all involved if they just sat tight, went 5-11, fired everyone, and left the important decisions to the next staff.

Upon thinking about this, I'm moving more into the trade Olsen for a potential 2nd rounder. Basically, if Olsen stays we will get more of the hype on how great he is and then have the strong possibility of him delivering another mediocre season lowering his trade value. Olsen's value maybe at it's highest right now and could deliver the best value.

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:40:07 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 03, 2010, 10:25:12 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender.

You don't think signing, say, Kampman/Peppers and Rolle/Sharper would add 2-3 wins from last year?  What about if they manage to shore up the o-line a bit?  If they're willing to spend some money this offseason (and it sounds like they are), I think they definitely could be a playoff "contender."  It's not like they went 2-14 last year.

I don't buy that they're willing to spend money this offseason. I think they'll say that until they can portray those guys as asking for a ludicrous amount of money and hope that you're content that they tried. If they made all of those moves then yeah, they could improve, but I'm positive they're just blowing smoke up my ass.

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:54:20 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 03, 2010, 10:45:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 03, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
I don't know about Olsen. I would say he's a pretty good tight end, but not this game changing elite tight end that the Bears seemed to believe. If the Bears could get a second rounder I'd say make the trade.

If we're talking about a competent GM here. I realize ten minutes ago I just said it was a good deal, but I'm changing my mind. Angelo would find a way, in one of the most promising drafts in years, to fuck up that 2nd round pick. Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender. Nothing. I'd say it'd be best for all involved if they just sat tight, went 5-11, fired everyone, and left the important decisions to the next staff.

Upon thinking about this, I'm moving more into the trade Olsen for a potential 2nd rounder. Basically, if Olsen stays we will get more of the hype on how great he is and then have the strong possibility of him delivering another mediocre season lowering his trade value. Olsen's value maybe at it's highest right now and could deliver the best value.

The problem with this is that you're looking at the 2nd round pick as an end in and of itself, when it's only a means to an end. By saying "Trade Olsen for a 2nd round pick" that assumes the player Angelo would draft with that pick will be a more valuable player than Greg Olsen. I just don't see that happening.

Quote from: R-V on March 03, 2010, 10:59:04 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:40:07 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 03, 2010, 10:25:12 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender.

You don't think signing, say, Kampman/Peppers and Rolle/Sharper would add 2-3 wins from last year?  What about if they manage to shore up the o-line a bit?  If they're willing to spend some money this offseason (and it sounds like they are), I think they definitely could be a playoff "contender."  It's not like they went 2-14 last year.

I don't buy that they're willing to spend money this offseason. I think they'll say that until they can portray those guys as asking for a ludicrous amount of money and hope that you're content that they tried. If they made all of those moves then yeah, they could improve, but I'm positive they're just blowing smoke up my ass.

This is where I am. Until and unless Angelo/McClaskeys whip up a tasty Pepper(s) and egg sandwich on a Kaiser Roll(e) for Huey, I consider this team to be run by a bunch of bullshit tolerators.

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 11:03:47 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 03, 2010, 10:59:04 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:40:07 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 03, 2010, 10:25:12 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender.

You don't think signing, say, Kampman/Peppers and Rolle/Sharper would add 2-3 wins from last year?  What about if they manage to shore up the o-line a bit?  If they're willing to spend some money this offseason (and it sounds like they are), I think they definitely could be a playoff "contender."  It's not like they went 2-14 last year.

I don't buy that they're willing to spend money this offseason. I think they'll say that until they can portray those guys as asking for a ludicrous amount of money and hope that you're content that they tried. If they made all of those moves then yeah, they could improve, but I'm positive they're just blowing smoke up my ass.

This is where I am. Until and unless Angelo/McClaskeys whip up a tasty Pepper(s) and egg sandwich on a Kaiser Roll(e) for Huey, I consider this team to be run by a bunch of bullshit tolerators.

They've practically written the book on bullshit toleration.

Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 11:09:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 11:03:47 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 03, 2010, 10:59:04 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:40:07 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 03, 2010, 10:25:12 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender.

You don't think signing, say, Kampman/Peppers and Rolle/Sharper would add 2-3 wins from last year?  What about if they manage to shore up the o-line a bit?  If they're willing to spend some money this offseason (and it sounds like they are), I think they definitely could be a playoff "contender."  It's not like they went 2-14 last year.

I don't buy that they're willing to spend money this offseason. I think they'll say that until they can portray those guys as asking for a ludicrous amount of money and hope that you're content that they tried. If they made all of those moves then yeah, they could improve, but I'm positive they're just blowing smoke up my ass.

This is where I am. Until and unless Angelo/McClaskeys whip up a tasty Pepper(s) and egg sandwich on a Kaiser Roll(e) for Huey, I consider this team to be run by a bunch of bullshit tolerators.

They've practically written the book on bullshit toleration.

And it's almost as good as "The Guns of August".

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 11:11:22 AM

Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 11:09:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 11:03:47 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 03, 2010, 10:59:04 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:40:07 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 03, 2010, 10:25:12 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender.

You don't think signing, say, Kampman/Peppers and Rolle/Sharper would add 2-3 wins from last year?  What about if they manage to shore up the o-line a bit?  If they're willing to spend some money this offseason (and it sounds like they are), I think they definitely could be a playoff "contender."  It's not like they went 2-14 last year.

I don't buy that they're willing to spend money this offseason. I think they'll say that until they can portray those guys as asking for a ludicrous amount of money and hope that you're content that they tried. If they made all of those moves then yeah, they could improve, but I'm positive they're just blowing smoke up my ass.

This is where I am. Until and unless Angelo/McClaskeys whip up a tasty Pepper(s) and egg sandwich on a Kaiser Roll(e) for Huey, I consider this team to be run by a bunch of bullshit tolerators.

They've practically written the book on bullshit toleration.

And it's almost as good as "The Guns of August".

Woah, Woah. Slow your roll, dawg. Somethings you just don't joke about.

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 03, 2010, 11:16:37 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 11:11:22 AM

Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 11:09:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 11:03:47 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 03, 2010, 10:59:04 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:40:07 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 03, 2010, 10:25:12 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
Nothing this team does this offseason is going to make them a playoff contender.

You don't think signing, say, Kampman/Peppers and Rolle/Sharper would add 2-3 wins from last year?  What about if they manage to shore up the o-line a bit?  If they're willing to spend some money this offseason (and it sounds like they are), I think they definitely could be a playoff "contender."  It's not like they went 2-14 last year.

I don't buy that they're willing to spend money this offseason. I think they'll say that until they can portray those guys as asking for a ludicrous amount of money and hope that you're content that they tried. If they made all of those moves then yeah, they could improve, but I'm positive they're just blowing smoke up my ass.

This is where I am. Until and unless Angelo/McClaskeys whip up a tasty Pepper(s) and egg sandwich on a Kaiser Roll(e) for Huey, I consider this team to be run by a bunch of bullshit tolerators.

They've practically written the book on bullshit toleration.

And it's almost as good as "The Guns of August".

Woah, Woah. Slow your roll, dawg. Somethings you just don't joke about.

The Kaiser tolerated way too much bullshit from von Moltke.

QuoteBarring any complications in Chicago, the Julius Peppers deal gets done and announced with the Bears by Friday afternoon.

QuoteOne of the few who sidestepped Chicago: Cardinals free agent safety Antrel Rolle, who's visiting the N.Y. Giants. 

QuoteThe #Bears have agreed to terms with TE Brandon Manumaleuna on a 5-yr contract.

QuoteChester Taylor coming to town w/ agent Ken Sarnoff. Word on the street is he is angling for $8 million guaranteed.

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 06:50:39 AM
Free agent updates from Schefter and Biggs:

QuoteBarring any complications in Chicago, the Julius Peppers deal gets done and announced with the Bears by Friday afternoon.

[/b]

QuoteOne of the few who sidestepped Chicago: Cardinals free agent safety Antrel Rolle, who's visiting the N.Y. Giants. 

QuoteThe #Bears have agreed to terms with TE Brandon Manumaleuna on a 5-yr contract.

QuoteChester Taylor coming to town w/ agent Ken Sarnoff. Word on the street is he is angling for $8 million guaranteed.

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 07:22:59 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 06:50:39 AM
Free agent updates from Schefter and Biggs:

QuoteBarring any complications in Chicago, the Julius Peppers deal gets done and announced with the Bears by Friday afternoon.

[/b]

QuoteOne of the few who sidestepped Chicago: Cardinals free agent safety Antrel Rolle, who's visiting the N.Y. Giants.  

QuoteThe #Bears have agreed to terms with TE Brandon Manumaleuna on a 5-yr contract.

QuoteChester Taylor coming to town w/ agent Ken Sarnoff. Word on the street is he is angling for $8 million guaranteed.

The Skinny Mike of Mike & Mike is not impressed. "How'd Cutler work out for you? It's the under the radar moves that work out for teams, i.e. Randy Moss for a 4th round pick"

Fuck him. I have a nice Peppers boner.

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:41:49 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 07:22:59 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 06:50:39 AM
Free agent updates from Schefter and Biggs:

QuoteBarring any complications in Chicago, the Julius Peppers deal gets done and announced with the Bears by Friday afternoon.

[/b]

QuoteOne of the few who sidestepped Chicago: Cardinals free agent safety Antrel Rolle, who's visiting the N.Y. Giants.  

QuoteThe #Bears have agreed to terms with TE Brandon Manumaleuna on a 5-yr contract.

QuoteChester Taylor coming to town w/ agent Ken Sarnoff. Word on the street is he is angling for $8 million guaranteed.

The Skinny Mike of Mike & Mike is not impressed. "How'd Cutler work out for you? It's the under the radar moves that work out for teams, i.e. Randy Moss for a 4th round pick"

Fuck him. I have a nice Peppers boner.

Peppers will help, and hopefully he can take some of the pressure off of Tommie Harris and get his fat ass to do something. I'd still like to see the offensive line addressed. Thank GOD they got Brandon Manumaleuna!

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 08:52:03 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:41:49 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 07:22:59 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 06:50:39 AM
Free agent updates from Schefter and Biggs:

QuoteBarring any complications in Chicago, the Julius Peppers deal gets done and announced with the Bears by Friday afternoon.

[/b]

QuoteOne of the few who sidestepped Chicago: Cardinals free agent safety Antrel Rolle, who's visiting the N.Y. Giants.  

QuoteThe #Bears have agreed to terms with TE Brandon Manumaleuna on a 5-yr contract.

QuoteChester Taylor coming to town w/ agent Ken Sarnoff. Word on the street is he is angling for $8 million guaranteed.

The Skinny Mike of Mike & Mike is not impressed. "How'd Cutler work out for you? It's the under the radar moves that work out for teams, i.e. Randy Moss for a 4th round pick"

Fuck him. I have a nice Peppers boner.

Peppers will help, and hopefully he can take some of the pressure off of Tommie Harris and get his fat ass to do something. I'd still like to see the offensive line addressed. Thank GOD they got Brandon Manumaleuna!

So what is their offensive line as of now? Are they planning on trying Omiyale at LG again? Shaffer at RT?

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 08:52:03 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:41:49 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 07:22:59 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 06:50:39 AM
Free agent updates from Schefter and Biggs:

QuoteBarring any complications in Chicago, the Julius Peppers deal gets done and announced with the Bears by Friday afternoon.

[/b]

QuoteOne of the few who sidestepped Chicago: Cardinals free agent safety Antrel Rolle, who's visiting the N.Y. Giants.  

QuoteThe #Bears have agreed to terms with TE Brandon Manumaleuna on a 5-yr contract.

QuoteChester Taylor coming to town w/ agent Ken Sarnoff. Word on the street is he is angling for $8 million guaranteed.

The Skinny Mike of Mike & Mike is not impressed. "How'd Cutler work out for you? It's the under the radar moves that work out for teams, i.e. Randy Moss for a 4th round pick"

Fuck him. I have a nice Peppers boner.

Peppers will help, and hopefully he can take some of the pressure off of Tommie Harris and get his fat ass to do something. I'd still like to see the offensive line addressed. Thank GOD they got Brandon Manumaleuna!

So what is their offensive line as of now? Are they planning on trying Omiyale at LG again? Shaffer at RT?

That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

Quote from: Eli on March 05, 2010, 09:23:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

You're too negative.

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 09:25:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 05, 2010, 09:23:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

You're too negative.

Last season I tried too positive. I'm going with bi-polar offseason approaches.

Quote from: Eli on March 05, 2010, 09:23:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

You're too negative.

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 09:28:27 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 05, 2010, 09:23:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

You're too negative.

If the Bears somehow net Peppers, Taylor AND Rolle you'd have to be a real Chuck to not be excited about it.

Back to the offensive line, is there any chance at all that they'll give Kreutz the boot and slot Beeks in there?

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 09:32:17 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 09:28:27 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 05, 2010, 09:23:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

You're too negative.

If the Bears somehow net Peppers, Taylor AND Rolle you'd have to be a real Chuck to not be excited about it.

Back to the offensive line, is there any chance at all that they'll give Kreutz the boot and slot Beeks in there?

They'd be good moves, although I think Chester Taylor would be too expensive for a position that's more of a want than a need. Forte is still a good runningback and a good fit for the offense, the line just sucked that hard last year. If Taylor really wants a contract near the 8 million a year range it'd be a total waste of cash. Use that money to up the offer for Rolle.

QuoteThe best option clearly is O.J. Atogwe of the Rams. He is a restricted free agent, and it was assumed the Rams would tender him at a level that would require any team that signs him to compensate the Rams with a high draft pick.  But the Rams chose to tender him at the lowest possible level.

What this means is whoever signs Atogwe would not have to compensate the Rams. But the Rams have the right to match any offer.  It would probably take a market-setting deal to get him out of St. Louis, and the Bears might not be able to afford such a deal given their other maneuverings.

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 09:40:17 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 09:32:17 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 09:28:27 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 05, 2010, 09:23:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

You're too negative.

If the Bears somehow net Peppers, Taylor AND Rolle you'd have to be a real Chuck to not be excited about it.

Back to the offensive line, is there any chance at all that they'll give Kreutz the boot and slot Beeks in there?

They'd be good moves, although I think Chester Taylor would be too expensive for a position that's more of a want than a need. Forte is still a good runningback and a good fit for the offense, the line just sucked that hard last year. If Taylor really wants a contract near the 8 million a year range it'd be a total waste of cash. Use that money to up the offer for Rolle.

Agreed, safety's a much higher priority than RB. But isn't this an uncapped year? I haven't followed  the salary cap stuff too closely, but if there's no cap, couldn't they theoretically sign all three?

Also, Atogwe (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/pompei-not-to-be-greedy-but-how-about-a-safety.html) an option? It's Pompei, so probably not.

QuoteThe best option clearly is O.J. Atogwe of the Rams. He is a restricted free agent, and it was assumed the Rams would tender him at a level that would require any team that signs him to compensate the Rams with a high draft pick.  But the Rams chose to tender him at the lowest possible level.

What this means is whoever signs Atogwe would not have to compensate the Rams. But the Rams have the right to match any offer.  It would probably take a market-setting deal to get him out of St. Louis, and the Bears might not be able to afford such a deal given their other maneuverings.

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 09:40:17 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 09:32:17 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 09:28:27 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 05, 2010, 09:23:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

You're too negative.

If the Bears somehow net Peppers, Taylor AND Rolle you'd have to be a real Chuck to not be excited about it.

Back to the offensive line, is there any chance at all that they'll give Kreutz the boot and slot Beeks in there?

They'd be good moves, although I think Chester Taylor would be too expensive for a position that's more of a want than a need. Forte is still a good runningback and a good fit for the offense, the line just sucked that hard last year. If Taylor really wants a contract near the 8 million a year range it'd be a total waste of cash. Use that money to up the offer for Rolle.

Agreed, safety's a much higher priority than RB. But isn't this an uncapped year? I haven't followed  the salary cap stuff too closely, but if there's no cap, couldn't they theoretically sign all three?

Also, Atogwe (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/pompei-not-to-be-greedy-but-how-about-a-safety.html) an option? It's Pompei, so probably not.

QuoteThe best option clearly is O.J. Atogwe of the Rams. He is a restricted free agent, and it was assumed the Rams would tender him at a level that would require any team that signs him to compensate the Rams with a high draft pick.  But the Rams chose to tender him at the lowest possible level.

What this means is whoever signs Atogwe would not have to compensate the Rams. But the Rams have the right to match any offer.  It would probably take a market-setting deal to get him out of St. Louis, and the Bears might not be able to afford such a deal given their other maneuverings.

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 09:43:04 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 09:40:17 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 09:32:17 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 09:28:27 AM

Quote from: Eli on March 05, 2010, 09:23:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 05, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
That's what I'm hearing. I'm also hearing that no one but Chicago's offering anywhere close to what Rolle wants, so they may get Peppers and Rolle. That would make that defense somewhere bordering on adequate!

You're too negative.

If the Bears somehow net Peppers, Taylor AND Rolle you'd have to be a real Chuck to not be excited about it.

Back to the offensive line, is there any chance at all that they'll give Kreutz the boot and slot Beeks in there?

They'd be good moves, although I think Chester Taylor would be too expensive for a position that's more of a want than a need. Forte is still a good runningback and a good fit for the offense, the line just sucked that hard last year. If Taylor really wants a contract near the 8 million a year range it'd be a total waste of cash. Use that money to up the offer for Rolle.

Agreed, safety's a much higher priority than RB. But isn't this an uncapped year? I haven't followed  the salary cap stuff too closely, but if there's no cap, couldn't they theoretically sign all three?

Also, Atogwe (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/pompei-not-to-be-greedy-but-how-about-a-safety.html) an option? It's Pompei, so probably not.

QuoteThe best option clearly is O.J. Atogwe of the Rams. He is a restricted free agent, and it was assumed the Rams would tender him at a level that would require any team that signs him to compensate the Rams with a high draft pick.  But the Rams chose to tender him at the lowest possible level.

What this means is whoever signs Atogwe would not have to compensate the Rams. But the Rams have the right to match any offer.  It would probably take a market-setting deal to get him out of St. Louis, and the Bears might not be able to afford such a deal given their other maneuverings.

The thing that throws me off about this is the fact that Ted Phillips came out a couple weeks ago and said they wouldn't go crazy spending money and then he raised ticket prices.. However, I'm sure many will accept higher prices if this is what you get for that.

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 07:22:59 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 06:50:39 AM
Free agent updates from Schefter and Biggs:

QuoteBarring any complications in Chicago, the Julius Peppers deal gets done and announced with the Bears by Friday afternoon.

[/b]

QuoteOne of the few who sidestepped Chicago: Cardinals free agent safety Antrel Rolle, who's visiting the N.Y. Giants. 

QuoteThe #Bears have agreed to terms with TE Brandon Manumaleuna on a 5-yr contract.

QuoteChester Taylor coming to town w/ agent Ken Sarnoff. Word on the street is he is angling for $8 million guaranteed.

The Skinny Mike of Mike & Mike is not impressed. "How'd Cutler work out for you? It's the under the radar moves that work out for teams, i.e. Randy Moss for a 4th round pick"

Fuck him. I have a nice Peppers boner.

QuotePeppers and taylor in chicago taking physicals. Kampman on his way to philly for visit NOT seattle. Osgood heading to jags for visit    38 minutes ago   via UberTwitter

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Unless Jay Glazer's sources are wrong for the first time ever, we've got a couple new Bears.

QuotePeppers and taylor in chicago taking physicals. Kampman on his way to philly for visit NOT seattle. Osgood heading to jags for visit    38 minutes ago   via UberTwitter

(side question: what the sam hell is UberTwitter?)

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Unless Jay Glazer's sources are wrong for the first time ever, we've got a couple new Bears.

QuotePeppers and taylor in chicago taking physicals. Kampman on his way to philly for visit NOT seattle. Osgood heading to jags for visit    38 minutes ago   via UberTwitter

(side question: what the sam hell is UberTwitter?)

Quote from: MAD on March 05, 2010, 12:33:10 PM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Unless Jay Glazer's sources are wrong for the first time ever, we've got a couple new Bears.

QuotePeppers and taylor in chicago taking physicals. Kampman on his way to philly for visit NOT seattle. Osgood heading to jags for visit    38 minutes ago   via UberTwitter

(side question: what the sam hell is UberTwitter?)

Thanks for the link, BananaHands.

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Unless Jay Glazer's sources are wrong for the first time ever, we've got a couple new Bears.

QuotePeppers and taylor in chicago taking physicals. Kampman on his way to philly for visit NOT seattle. Osgood heading to jags for visit    38 minutes ago   via UberTwitter

(side question: what the sam hell is UberTwitter?)

Quote from: CT III on March 05, 2010, 01:08:34 PM
Taylor deal reportedly done at 4 years $12.5MM.

Peppers supposedly getting ready to sign a 6 year/$72MM deal too.

I have sources, but will never reveal them to Huey.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 12:36:29 PM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Unless Jay Glazer's sources are wrong for the first time ever, we've got a couple new Bears.

QuotePeppers and taylor in chicago taking physicals. Kampman on his way to philly for visit NOT seattle. Osgood heading to jags for visit    38 minutes ago   via UberTwitter

(side question: what the sam hell is UberTwitter?)

"Via" in this case just indicates the method by which the Twat was Twuttered.

As in: "38 minutes ago via the web" or "38 minutes ago via Morph's army of typing Twitter monkeys."

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 01:11:02 PM

Quote from: CT III on March 05, 2010, 01:08:34 PM
Taylor deal reportedly done at 4 years $12.5MM.

Peppers supposedly getting ready to sign a 6 year/$72MM deal too.

I have sources, but will never reveal them to Huey.

$7 million guaranteed for Chester per an Adam Schefter tweet that I WILL NOT LINK.

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 01:18:10 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 12:36:29 PM

Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Unless Jay Glazer's sources are wrong for the first time ever, we've got a couple new Bears.

QuotePeppers and taylor in chicago taking physicals. Kampman on his way to philly for visit NOT seattle. Osgood heading to jags for visit    38 minutes ago   via UberTwitter

(side question: what the sam hell is UberTwitter?)

"Via" in this case just indicates the method by which the Twat was Twuttered.

As in: "38 minutes ago via the web" or "38 minutes ago via Morph's army of typing Twitter monkeys."

Soon, they'll have written the greatest tweet known to mankind.

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

Quote from: PenFoe on March 05, 2010, 05:51:09 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

Boldin's definitely a solid WR, but he's a constant injury risk who's also very unhappy with his current contract, which expires at the end of this season.
So, either you're getting a guy who's often hurt and disgruntled for 1 year in exchange for a 3rd and 4th, or you're getting a guy who's often hurt and you have to extend him for at least $15 million guaranteed in exchange for a 3rd and 4th in a draft where you don't have a 1st and 2nd. 

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situation (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM
Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

Quote from: Eli on March 08, 2010, 10:55:50 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM
Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

How so?  The Bears weren't good at pressuring the quarterback last year and Peppers is very good at it.  Manumaleuna is good at run blocking and pass blocking.  The Bears weren't good at either of those things last year. 

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:05:27 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Bigest need on this team remains tackle-to-tackle on the offensive side of the football.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 11:22:50 AM

Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:05:27 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Bigest need on this team remains tackle-to-tackle on the offensive side of the football.

We're all well aware of the offensive line issues. Safety, too.

That doesn't take away from countless issues elsewhere on the field, a couple of which were addressed with these signings.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 11:22:50 AM

Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:05:27 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Bigest need on this team remains tackle-to-tackle on the offensive side of the football.

We're all well aware of the offensive line issues. Safety, too.

That doesn't take away from countless issues elsewhere on the field, a couple of which were addressed with these signings.

Quote from: R-V on March 08, 2010, 11:33:59 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 11:22:50 AM

Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:05:27 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Bigest need on this team remains tackle-to-tackle on the offensive side of the football.

We're all well aware of the offensive line issues. Safety, too.

That doesn't take away from countless issues elsewhere on the field, a couple of which were addressed with these signings.

And unless I'm mistaken, the free agent offensive line crop this year is thin-to-nonexistent. The good ones (Jahri Evans, Logan Mankins, Marcus Mcneill) are all restricted free agents and aren't going anywhere.

In short, Pen is wrong. Again.

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 11:42:51 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 08, 2010, 11:33:59 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 11:22:50 AM

Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:05:27 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Bigest need on this team remains tackle-to-tackle on the offensive side of the football.

We're all well aware of the offensive line issues. Safety, too.

That doesn't take away from countless issues elsewhere on the field, a couple of which were addressed with these signings.

And unless I'm mistaken, the free agent offensive line crop this year is thin-to-nonexistent. The good ones (Jahri Evans, Logan Mankins, Marcus Mcneill) are all restricted free agents and aren't going anywhere.

In short, Pen is wrong. Again.

Just saying that these moves smack of desperation by a bunch of guys who's jobs are clearly on the line.
Obviously you get better when you sign a guy like Julius Peppers, and while there isn't an overwhelming amount of talent available at OL (Gaither, Clifton, not sure who else w/o looking) it feels like a Daniel Snyder Redskins type of day where you go after names over need.

Quote from: R-V on March 08, 2010, 11:48:27 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 11:42:51 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 08, 2010, 11:33:59 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 11:22:50 AM

Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:05:27 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Bigest need on this team remains tackle-to-tackle on the offensive side of the football.

We're all well aware of the offensive line issues. Safety, too.

That doesn't take away from countless issues elsewhere on the field, a couple of which were addressed with these signings.

And unless I'm mistaken, the free agent offensive line crop this year is thin-to-nonexistent. The good ones (Jahri Evans, Logan Mankins, Marcus Mcneill) are all restricted free agents and aren't going anywhere.

In short, Pen is wrong. Again.

Just saying that these moves smack of desperation by a bunch of guys who's jobs are clearly on the line.
Obviously you get better when you sign a guy like Julius Peppers, and while there isn't an overwhelming amount of talent available at OL (Gaither, Clifton, not sure who else w/o looking) it feels like a Daniel Snyder Redskins type of day where you go after names over need.

Of course they're desperate. But have you watched the Bears defensive ends the last couple years? Brown is solid, but Ogunleye's done and Anderson was a flash in the pan. Regardless of how much we all may hate the Cover 2, if they're going to run it, it helps to have a stud pass-rush DE. It's a need.

The Bears weren't very good last year. Other than Cutler, Briggs, and Tillman they've got needs out the ass.

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 11:49:36 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 08, 2010, 11:48:27 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 11:42:51 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 08, 2010, 11:33:59 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 11:22:50 AM

Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:05:27 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Bigest need on this team remains tackle-to-tackle on the offensive side of the football.

We're all well aware of the offensive line issues. Safety, too.

That doesn't take away from countless issues elsewhere on the field, a couple of which were addressed with these signings.

And unless I'm mistaken, the free agent offensive line crop this year is thin-to-nonexistent. The good ones (Jahri Evans, Logan Mankins, Marcus Mcneill) are all restricted free agents and aren't going anywhere.

In short, Pen is wrong. Again.

Just saying that these moves smack of desperation by a bunch of guys who's jobs are clearly on the line.
Obviously you get better when you sign a guy like Julius Peppers, and while there isn't an overwhelming amount of talent available at OL (Gaither, Clifton, not sure who else w/o looking) it feels like a Daniel Snyder Redskins type of day where you go after names over need.

Of course they're desperate. But have you watched the Bears defensive ends the last couple years? Brown is solid, but Ogunleye's done and Anderson was a flash in the pan. Regardless of how much we all may hate the Cover 2, if they're going to run it, it helps to have a stud pass-rush DE. It's a need.

The Bears weren't very good last year. Other than Cutler, Briggs, and Tillman they've got needs out the ass.

Well, now you're just baiting me.

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 11:49:36 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 08, 2010, 11:48:27 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 11:42:51 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 08, 2010, 11:33:59 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 11:22:50 AM

Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:05:27 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 08, 2010, 11:02:53 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:48:28 PM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 05, 2010, 05:35:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 05, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Boldin and a 5th to Baltimore for their 3rd and 4th? Why the fuck didn't the Bears make that move?

They feel like they'll need to make a draft pick ahead of the 5th round?

Fuck that. I'd rather have a stud WR (a position the Bears are solidly OK at) than get an OL (which the Bears are bad at)

You'd rather see the Bears improve for a year at a position they're "solidly OK at" than see them try to improve going forward at what are possibly the most crucial positions on a football squadron (where you agree they're currently for shit)?

If that wasn't an attempt at sarcasm then I don't get this Yeti champion-building strategy at all.

Why not throw money at positions in which the Bears aren't in need? Not like it's something new.

Outside perspective is THIS.
Seems like total desperation, signing these guys.
Not that they're not solid players, but clearly not the positions or areas most in need.

This team is still going to live/die based on how Cutler does next year and I don't see any of these moves giving him enough help.

But then again, my QB apparently is either a serial sexual assaulter or a complete fucking moron who can't stop putting himself in retarded situations (still banking on the latter), so what do I know?

I would say DE and RB were important needs on this team. They couldn't take the risk with Wolfe and Whoopi if Forte were to be banged up again.

Bigest need on this team remains tackle-to-tackle on the offensive side of the football.

We're all well aware of the offensive line issues. Safety, too.

That doesn't take away from countless issues elsewhere on the field, a couple of which were addressed with these signings.

And unless I'm mistaken, the free agent offensive line crop this year is thin-to-nonexistent. The good ones (Jahri Evans, Logan Mankins, Marcus Mcneill) are all restricted free agents and aren't going anywhere.

In short, Pen is wrong. Again.

Just saying that these moves smack of desperation by a bunch of guys who's jobs are clearly on the line.
Obviously you get better when you sign a guy like Julius Peppers, and while there isn't an overwhelming amount of talent available at OL (Gaither, Clifton, not sure who else w/o looking) it feels like a Daniel Snyder Redskins type of day where you go after names over need.

Of course they're desperate. But have you watched the Bears defensive ends the last couple years? Brown is solid, but Ogunleye's done and Anderson was a flash in the pan. Regardless of how much we all may hate the Cover 2, if they're going to run it, it helps to have a stud pass-rush DE. It's a need.

The Bears weren't very good last year. Other than Cutler, Briggs, and Tillman they've got needs out the ass.

Well, now you're just baiting me.

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 12:28:45 PM
But, Huey, Cutler's a whiny bitch

Quote from: MAD on March 08, 2010, 12:07:33 PM
Your blisteringly ignorant misconceptions about Jay Cutler really interfere with your ability to discuss football intelligently.

The guy had the worst season of his career, and yet:

He threw for the third most TD's in team history (27)
He threw for the second most yards in team history
Earned the 5th best completion percentage in history (min. 250 pass attempts)
Set franchise record with 336 completions (in a franchise-record 555 attempts)
Helped defeat the defending Super Bowl champions when, after their gay-assed kicker missed a clinching FG, he marched them down the field for the winning drive.

All the time while having third-rate track stars for receivers, an offensive line that couldn't block scarecrows, and a PANK coaching staff.  Yes, he got picked a bunch of times--like I said it was probably his worst season--and the bar was not set very high for Bears quarterbacks to begin with but still, if you wish to sincerely debate the merits of Jay Cutler as the Bears quarterback, you're thick.

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 12:42:05 PM

Quote from: MAD on March 08, 2010, 12:07:33 PM
Your blisteringly ignorant misconceptions about Jay Cutler really interfere with your ability to discuss football intelligently.

The guy had the worst season of his career, and yet:

He threw for the third most TD's in team history (27)
He threw for the second most yards in team history
Earned the 5th best completion percentage in history (min. 250 pass attempts)
Set franchise record with 336 completions (in a franchise-record 555 attempts)
Helped defeat the defending Super Bowl champions when, after their gay-assed kicker missed a clinching FG, he marched them down the field for the winning drive.

All the time while having third-rate track stars for receivers, an offensive line that couldn't block scarecrows, and a PANK coaching staff.  Yes, he got picked a bunch of times--like I said it was probably his worst season--and the bar was not set very high for Bears quarterbacks to begin with but still, if you wish to sincerely debate the merits of Jay Cutler as the Bears quarterback, you're thick.

Just to clarify, I'm "blisteringly ignorant and unable to discuss football intelligently", yet your defense of Cutler rests upon how he compares not to other QBs of his era, but to other QBs in Bears history?

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 01:44:22 PM
Fuck you, Pen.

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 01:47:20 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 01:44:22 PM
Fuck you, Pen.

I was just "THIS"-ing.
Tell Yeti to fuck him, I just agreed.

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 01:51:16 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 01:47:20 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 01:44:22 PM
Fuck you, Pen.

Tell Yeti to fuck him, I just agreed.

Fuck you

Quote from: Pre on March 08, 2010, 02:20:36 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 01:51:16 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 01:47:20 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 01:44:22 PM
Fuck you, Pen.

Tell Yeti to fuck him, I just agreed.

Fuck you

I don't care who fucks who at this point, but at least y'all stopped
quoting entire pages of posts.

I'm disappointed with the season Cutler had, because I was hoping
for the playoffs.  I don't blame Cutler for it, as I think it was a
systemic total collapse and I think he did reasonably considering all
of the constant failure around him.  I think it's equally foolish to blame
or absolve him for the entirety of the season.

For instance, throwing a ton of picks is not awesome.  You can't
hand waive them (Brett Favre style) by claiming his team was behind
or he has the heart of a GunSlinger CHAMPION or whatever because
he threw them.  But you can't parrot the SunTimes idiotic Jaws says
they are all his fault bullshit mantra because there were some obvious
WR tip/falldown/retard route picks in the mix too.

In general, the extremes of his stats both positive and negative are
simply the result of a QB with a live arm on team that spent the season
rapidly collapsing.  Trying to cherry pick either side for an argument
to isolate one player from the shit pile is a total waste of time.

Evaluating talent in true team sports is almost never black and white
and acting like you know for sure the true talent level of a player
based on a few stats is ridiculous.

Personally, I think Cutler has a lot of talent and don't regret the trade
to acquire him, but I know that there's no stat out there to prove it
at this point.

Quote from: Pre on March 08, 2010, 02:20:36 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 01:51:16 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 01:47:20 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 01:44:22 PM
Fuck you, Pen.

Tell Yeti to fuck him, I just agreed.

Fuck you

I don't care who fucks who at this point, but at least y'all stopped
quoting entire pages of posts.

I'm disappointed with the season Cutler had, because I was hoping
for the playoffs.  I don't blame Cutler for it, as I think it was a
systemic total collapse and I think he did reasonably considering all
of the constant failure around him.  I think it's equally foolish to blame
or absolve him for the entirety of the season.

For instance, throwing a ton of picks is not awesome.  You can't
hand waive them (Brett Favre style) by claiming his team was behind
or he has the heart of a GunSlinger CHAMPION or whatever because
he threw them.  But you can't parrot the SunTimes idiotic Jaws says
they are all his fault bullshit mantra because there were some obvious
WR tip/falldown/retard route picks in the mix too.

In general, the extremes of his stats both positive and negative are
simply the result of a QB with a live arm on team that spent the season
rapidly collapsing.  Trying to cherry pick either side for an argument
to isolate one player from the shit pile is a total waste of time.

Evaluating talent in true team sports is almost never black and white
and acting like you know for sure the true talent level of a player
based on a few stats is ridiculous.

Personally, I think Cutler has a lot of talent and don't regret the trade
to acquire him, but I know that there's no stat out there to prove it
at this point.

Quote from: BH on March 08, 2010, 05:00:58 PM
I think Rex's success in Houston, Orton's success in Denver and Cutler's complete downward spiral illustrate that our QB coach is the place where we need an upgrade. And the organization recognized this and fired the guy. All the other things in this thread are pointless until we address this.

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
Julius Peppers (http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/about-last-night/2010/03/julius-peppers-buys-25-bottles-of-champagne-for-club-patrons-at-crescendo.html) bought 25 bottles of bubbly priced at $350 ea. for the patrons of a night club called Crescendo, which looks like one of the douchiest places in the world. Someone said he did this to ingratiate himself with fans in his new city. But it has the opposite effect on this Bears fan. Why would I give a fuck if he spent that much money on booze to a bunch of Chads and Trixies who were undoubtedly already drunk as piss? If he really wanted to make a difference he could have gone down to a homeless shelter and donated 350 bottles of Johnnie Walker to the denizens there who were desperately longing for a drink. Same investment. So much more bang for your ingratiating buck.

Hit the quarterback and I'll drink Ripple and make up a song about you... have some t-shirts printed... battle the meatheads on your behalf. Until then, shut up and drink your drink.

Quote from: BH on March 08, 2010, 05:00:58 PM
I think Rex's success in Houston, Orton's success in Denver and Cutler's complete downward spiral illustrate that our QB coach is the place where we need an upgrade. And the organization recognized this and fired the guy. All the other things in this thread are pointless until we address this.

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
Julius Peppers (http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/about-last-night/2010/03/julius-peppers-buys-25-bottles-of-champagne-for-club-patrons-at-crescendo.html) bought 25 bottles of bubbly priced at $350 ea. for the patrons of a night club called Crescendo, which looks like one of the douchiest places in the world. Someone said he did this to ingratiate himself with fans in his new city. But it has the opposite effect on this Bears fan. Why would I give a fuck if he spent that much money on booze to a bunch of Chads and Trixies who were undoubtedly already drunk as piss? If he really wanted to make a difference he could have gone down to a homeless shelter and donated 350 bottles of Johnnie Walker to the denizens there who were desperately longing for a drink. Same investment. So much more bang for your ingratiating buck.

Hit the quarterback and I'll drink Ripple and make up a song about you... have some t-shirts printed... battle the meatheads on your behalf. Until then, shut up and drink your drink.

Quote from: Slack-E on March 08, 2010, 06:29:12 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
Julius Peppers (http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/about-last-night/2010/03/julius-peppers-buys-25-bottles-of-champagne-for-club-patrons-at-crescendo.html) bought 25 bottles of bubbly priced at $350 ea. for the patrons of a night club called Crescendo, which looks like one of the douchiest places in the world. Someone said he did this to ingratiate himself with fans in his new city. But it has the opposite effect on this Bears fan. Why would I give a fuck if he spent that much money on booze to a bunch of Chads and Trixies who were undoubtedly already drunk as piss? If he really wanted to make a difference he could have gone down to a homeless shelter and donated 350 bottles of Johnnie Walker to the denizens there who were desperately longing for a drink. Same investment. So much more bang for your ingratiating buck.

Hit the quarterback and I'll drink Ripple and make up a song about you... have some t-shirts printed... battle the meatheads on your behalf. Until then, shut up and drink your drink.

You're the last person I expected to hear this from.

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 07:28:44 PM

Quote from: Slack-E on March 08, 2010, 06:29:12 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
Julius Peppers (http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/about-last-night/2010/03/julius-peppers-buys-25-bottles-of-champagne-for-club-patrons-at-crescendo.html) bought 25 bottles of bubbly priced at $350 ea. for the patrons of a night club called Crescendo, which looks like one of the douchiest places in the world. Someone said he did this to ingratiate himself with fans in his new city. But it has the opposite effect on this Bears fan. Why would I give a fuck if he spent that much money on booze to a bunch of Chads and Trixies who were undoubtedly already drunk as piss? If he really wanted to make a difference he could have gone down to a homeless shelter and donated 350 bottles of Johnnie Walker to the denizens there who were desperately longing for a drink. Same investment. So much more bang for your ingratiating buck.

Hit the quarterback and I'll drink Ripple and make up a song about you... have some t-shirts printed... battle the meatheads on your behalf. Until then, shut up and drink your drink.

You're the last person I expected to hear this from.

Well, I'm new to this whole liberal agenda thing. Giving to the needy and all that. How am I doing so far?

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 08:09:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 07:28:44 PM

Quote from: Slack-E on March 08, 2010, 06:29:12 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
Julius Peppers (http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/about-last-night/2010/03/julius-peppers-buys-25-bottles-of-champagne-for-club-patrons-at-crescendo.html) bought 25 bottles of bubbly priced at $350 ea. for the patrons of a night club called Crescendo, which looks like one of the douchiest places in the world. Someone said he did this to ingratiate himself with fans in his new city. But it has the opposite effect on this Bears fan. Why would I give a fuck if he spent that much money on booze to a bunch of Chads and Trixies who were undoubtedly already drunk as piss? If he really wanted to make a difference he could have gone down to a homeless shelter and donated 350 bottles of Johnnie Walker to the denizens there who were desperately longing for a drink. Same investment. So much more bang for your ingratiating buck.

Hit the quarterback and I'll drink Ripple and make up a song about you... have some t-shirts printed... battle the meatheads on your behalf. Until then, shut up and drink your drink.

You're the last person I expected to hear this from.

Well, I'm new to this whole liberal agenda thing. Giving to the needy and all that. How am I doing so far?

Trust me Pex. You don't want to go down that route. Get all sympathetic for some morgan who needs to "get home" and you get fucked.

Quote from: Jon on March 08, 2010, 08:17:31 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 08, 2010, 08:09:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 07:28:44 PM

Quote from: Slack-E on March 08, 2010, 06:29:12 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
Julius Peppers (http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/about-last-night/2010/03/julius-peppers-buys-25-bottles-of-champagne-for-club-patrons-at-crescendo.html) bought 25 bottles of bubbly priced at $350 ea. for the patrons of a night club called Crescendo, which looks like one of the douchiest places in the world. Someone said he did this to ingratiate himself with fans in his new city. But it has the opposite effect on this Bears fan. Why would I give a fuck if he spent that much money on booze to a bunch of Chads and Trixies who were undoubtedly already drunk as piss? If he really wanted to make a difference he could have gone down to a homeless shelter and donated 350 bottles of Johnnie Walker to the denizens there who were desperately longing for a drink. Same investment. So much more bang for your ingratiating buck.

Hit the quarterback and I'll drink Ripple and make up a song about you... have some t-shirts printed... battle the meatheads on your behalf. Until then, shut up and drink your drink.

You're the last person I expected to hear this from.

Well, I'm new to this whole liberal agenda thing. Giving to the needy and all that. How am I doing so far?

Trust me Pex. You don't want to go down that route. Get all sympathetic for some morgan who needs to "get home" and you get fucked.

You're just angry because that "home" might have inexpensive government-sponsored drywall.

QuoteAs Peter King of SI.com pointed out this afternoon, Peppers gets $20 million in 2010 (all but a $100,000 workout bonus is guaranteed).  But the $22 million in guaranteed money that he's due to receive in 2011 and 2012 is guaranteed for injury only.

This means that the Bears can decide after the 2010 season to cut Peppers for skill reasons -- and they'll owe him nothing.

Specifically, Peppers' 2011 base salary of $900,000 is guaranteed for injury at the time it's signed; on February 10, 2011, it becomes guaranteed for skill.  Also, a $10.5 million roster bonus due in 2011 is guaranteed for injury at signing.  On February 10, 2011, it becomes guaranteed for skill.

An $8.9 million base salary in 2012 is guaranteed for injury at signing and then for skill as of February 10, 2012.

Finally, $1.8 million of Peppers' 2013 base salary is guaranteed for injury only.

So, basically, if the Bears decide before February 10, 2011 that Peppers isn't what they thought he'd be, they can treat it as a one-year, $20 million deal, and walk away.

Also, by our calculations the actual guarantee is $42.0 million, which comes from a $6.5 million signing bonus, a $12.5 million roster bonus in 2010, a $900,000 guaranteed base salary in 2010, a $10.5 million guaranteed roster bonus in 2011, a $900,000 guaranteed base salary in 2011, a guaranteed base salary of $8.9 million in 2012, and a $1.8 million base salary guarantee in 2013.

Still, only $19.9 million of the money is guaranteed for skill.  If the new coach and G.M. decide that Peppers doesn't have enough of it to justify the remaining money, Peppers could be out of more than $22 million that supposedly is destined to land in his bank account.

And there's also a chance that Peppers could be in trouble even if the current regime survives.  If the Bears get to the postseason without much of a contribution from Peppers, coach Lovie Smith and G.M. Jerry Angelo likely will be back.  But maybe they'll decide to cut their losses on Peppers.

If nothing else, Peppers still has a reason to try to play hard, and the Bears did a great job of structuring the deal to allow themselves the opportunity to declare that the move was a mistake -- and to avoid more than $22 million in guaranteed compensation.

Quote from: Andy on March 09, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
If that's true, it's an incredibly shrewd move for a franchise that is normally anything but.

They are on the hook for him for only one really expensive season (in a cap-less year), unless he's awesome and they want to keep him around (assuming there's football in 2011.)

Jim Hendry was aghast at the lack of a no-trade clause, however.

Quote from: Yeti on March 09, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
I did kind of wonder about a 7 yr deal for someone who's been in the NFL for 8 seasons (would make him 30 now, right?)

Quote from: BH on March 10, 2010, 04:30:09 PM
rotoworld.

"Bears signed FB Eddie Williams to a one-year contract.
A seventh-round pick by Washington last year, Williams is a versatile fullback prospect with H-back type skills. He'll be in the mix for a roster spot.
Source: Brad Biggs on Twitter "

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 04:42:38 PM
BRANDON MARSHALL!!!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805)

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 04:42:38 PM
BRANDON MARSHALL!!!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805)

QuoteBy Barry Rozner | Daily Herald Columnist

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 04:42:38 PM
BRANDON MARSHALL!!!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805)

Quote from: MAD on March 10, 2010, 04:45:46 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 04:42:38 PM
BRANDON MARSHALL!!!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805)

I stopped reading that article after I read this:

QuoteBy Barry Rozner | Daily Herald Columnist

Quote from: MAD on March 10, 2010, 04:45:46 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 04:42:38 PM
BRANDON MARSHALL!!!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805)

I stopped reading that article after I read this:

QuoteBy Barry Rozner | Daily Herald Columnist

Quote from: RozYes, the asking price will be high, but who cares?

Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 10, 2010, 04:46:37 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 04:42:38 PM
BRANDON MARSHALL!!!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364805)

Rozner.

UPDATE: Or what Huey said.

Quote from: Brownie on March 10, 2010, 04:52:06 PM
What I saw in Rozner's column was news that the Colts released Ryan Lilja. Is he worth a flyer?

Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 10, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Also, the only major free agent news I want to hear from the Bears is that they've signed a tremendously awesome safety.

Other than that, don't care.

Quote from: SKO on March 08, 2010, 01:43:00 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 08, 2010, 12:42:05 PM

Quote from: MAD on March 08, 2010, 12:07:33 PM
Your blisteringly ignorant misconceptions about Jay Cutler really interfere with your ability to discuss football intelligently.

The guy had the worst season of his career, and yet:

He threw for the third most TD's in team history (27)
He threw for the second most yards in team history
Earned the 5th best completion percentage in history (min. 250 pass attempts)
Set franchise record with 336 completions (in a franchise-record 555 attempts)
Helped defeat the defending Super Bowl champions when, after their gay-assed kicker missed a clinching FG, he marched them down the field for the winning drive.

All the time while having third-rate track stars for receivers, an offensive line that couldn't block scarecrows, and a PANK coaching staff.  Yes, he got picked a bunch of times--like I said it was probably his worst season--and the bar was not set very high for Bears quarterbacks to begin with but still, if you wish to sincerely debate the merits of Jay Cutler as the Bears quarterback, you're thick.

Just to clarify, I'm "blisteringly ignorant and unable to discuss football intelligently", yet your defense of Cutler rests upon how he compares not to other QBs of his era, but to other QBs in Bears history?

I think Huey's point is that in his worst season, with the worst offensive unit the Bears have fielded in several years (a major accomplishment indeed), he managed to set franchise records. Was it a great season? Not by any measuring stick, but the notion that Cutler was what was wrong with the team or that there's some other quarterback out there who would be a better option is absolutely ludicrous.

And your franchise is about to go 6-10 with Dennis Dixon starting while Big Ben renovates Michael Vick's old prison cell, so fuck you.

QuotePer the report, Roethlisberger claims that the woman fell and injured her head after the incident. She then went to a hospital and alleged that she was sexually assaulted.

Quote from: SKO on March 08, 2010, 01:43:00 PM

And your franchise is about to go 6-10 with Dennis Dixon starting while Big Ben renovates Michael Vick's old prison cell, so fuck you.

Quote from: Andy on March 11, 2010, 10:00:18 AM
He'd better hope she didn't fall into a puddle of his semen.

Quote from: Yeti on March 14, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
"Bad" news for Neckbeard. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4995081)

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 09:46:36 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 14, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
"Bad" news for Neckbeard. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4995081)

I don't understand Denver's fetish for shitty QBs from Indiana universities.

Quote from: SKO on March 15, 2010, 10:59:00 AM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 09:46:36 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 14, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
"Bad" news for Neckbeard. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4995081)

I don't understand Denver's fetish for shitty QBs from Indiana universities.

Brady Quinn, like Orton, has a strong enough arm to perform well in that system. This is McDaniels' system, so performing well means a lot of underneath routes and YAC, leading to high yardage, completion%'s, and everything except..you know, touchdowns.

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 11:23:58 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 15, 2010, 10:59:00 AM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 09:46:36 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 14, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
"Bad" news for Neckbeard. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4995081)

I don't understand Denver's fetish for shitty QBs from Indiana universities.

Brady Quinn, like Orton, has a strong enough arm to perform well in that system. This is McDaniels' system, so performing well means a lot of underneath routes and YAC, leading to high yardage, completion%'s, and everything except..you know, touchdowns.

Touchdowns are kinda important, aren't they?

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 11:23:58 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 15, 2010, 10:59:00 AM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 09:46:36 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 14, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
"Bad" news for Neckbeard. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4995081)

I don't understand Denver's fetish for shitty QBs from Indiana universities.

Brady Quinn, like Orton, has a strong enough arm to perform well in that system. This is McDaniels' system, so performing well means a lot of underneath routes and YAC, leading to high yardage, completion%'s, and everything except..you know, touchdowns.

Touchdowns are kinda important, aren't they?

Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2010, 08:04:26 AM
DPD. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/16/bears-sign-former-colts-corner-drop-mckie/. Dropping McKie- Good move (unless you're one of those morans who always defended a fullback who couldn't A) Block B) Catch C)Gain a yard on 4th and 1.) Picking up a guy that Colts fans (not the brightest bunch, I'll admit) have nicknamed the Human Cushion? Slightly not good move. Can't be worse than Vasher, can he ?

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 17, 2010, 07:04:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2010, 08:04:26 AM
DPD. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/16/bears-sign-former-colts-corner-drop-mckie/. Dropping McKie- Good move (unless you're one of those morans who always defended a fullback who couldn't A) Block B) Catch C)Gain a yard on 4th and 1.) Picking up a guy that Colts fans (not the brightest bunch, I'll admit) have nicknamed the Human Cushion? Slightly not good move. Can't be worse than Vasher, can he ?

A friend of mine actually knows Jennings and has hung out with him a couple times in Indy. He said he sucks.

Quote from: SKO on March 18, 2010, 07:33:24 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 17, 2010, 07:04:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2010, 08:04:26 AM
DPD. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/16/bears-sign-former-colts-corner-drop-mckie/. Dropping McKie- Good move (unless you're one of those morans who always defended a fullback who couldn't A) Block B) Catch C)Gain a yard on 4th and 1.) Picking up a guy that Colts fans (not the brightest bunch, I'll admit) have nicknamed the Human Cushion? Slightly not good move. Can't be worse than Vasher, can he ?

A friend of mine actually knows Jennings and has hung out with him a couple times in Indy. He said he sucks.

That's refreshing honesty. I was internet acquaintances with this guy who went to college with Aaron Heilman and he was all "oh yeah, he's one of the nicest, most level-headed people I've ever met blah blah, maybe he'll be good," even though it was apparent that he would blow, clearly, and as it turns out, he really blew.

Quote from: Fork on March 18, 2010, 07:55:29 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 18, 2010, 07:33:24 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 17, 2010, 07:04:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2010, 08:04:26 AM
DPD. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/16/bears-sign-former-colts-corner-drop-mckie/. Dropping McKie- Good move (unless you're one of those morans who always defended a fullback who couldn't A) Block B) Catch C)Gain a yard on 4th and 1.) Picking up a guy that Colts fans (not the brightest bunch, I'll admit) have nicknamed the Human Cushion? Slightly not good move. Can't be worse than Vasher, can he ?

A friend of mine actually knows Jennings and has hung out with him a couple times in Indy. He said he sucks.

That's refreshing honesty. I was internet acquaintances with this guy who went to college with Aaron Heilman and he was all "oh yeah, he's one of the nicest, most level-headed people I've ever met blah blah, maybe he'll be good," even though it was apparent that he would blow, clearly, and as it turns out, he really blew.

I knew this guy who said Heilman was really good at darts and shit, shich means he's got control I guess, but it also means he's good at throwing things where there's nobody there with a bat to hit the fucking thing 500 feet.

Quote from: SKO on March 18, 2010, 07:33:24 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 17, 2010, 07:04:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2010, 08:04:26 AM
DPD. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/16/bears-sign-former-colts-corner-drop-mckie/. Dropping McKie- Good move (unless you're one of those morans who always defended a fullback who couldn't A) Block B) Catch C)Gain a yard on 4th and 1.) Picking up a guy that Colts fans (not the brightest bunch, I'll admit) have nicknamed the Human Cushion? Slightly not good move. Can't be worse than Vasher, can he ?

A friend of mine actually knows Jennings and has hung out with him a couple times in Indy. He said he sucks.

That's refreshing honesty. I was internet acquaintances with this guy who went to college with Aaron Heilman and he was all "oh yeah, he's one of the nicest, most level-headed people I've ever met blah blah, maybe he'll be good," even though it was apparent that he would blow, clearly, and as it turns out, he really blew.

Quote from: Kermit IV on March 19, 2010, 11:54:38 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 18, 2010, 07:33:24 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 17, 2010, 07:04:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2010, 08:04:26 AM
DPD. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/16/bears-sign-former-colts-corner-drop-mckie/. Dropping McKie- Good move (unless you're one of those morans who always defended a fullback who couldn't A) Block B) Catch C)Gain a yard on 4th and 1.) Picking up a guy that Colts fans (not the brightest bunch, I'll admit) have nicknamed the Human Cushion? Slightly not good move. Can't be worse than Vasher, can he ?

A friend of mine actually knows Jennings and has hung out with him a couple times in Indy. He said he sucks.

That's refreshing honesty. I was internet acquaintances with this guy who went to college with Aaron Heilman and he was all "oh yeah, he's one of the nicest, most level-headed people I've ever met blah blah, maybe he'll be good," even though it was apparent that he would blow, clearly, and as it turns out, he really blew.

I consider you an internet FRIEND.  Dick.

Quote from: SKO on March 22, 2010, 07:55:00 AM

Quote from: Kermit IV on March 19, 2010, 11:54:38 AM

Quote from: SKO on March 18, 2010, 07:33:24 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 17, 2010, 07:04:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 17, 2010, 08:04:26 AM
DPD. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/16/bears-sign-former-colts-corner-drop-mckie/. Dropping McKie- Good move (unless you're one of those morans who always defended a fullback who couldn't A) Block B) Catch C)Gain a yard on 4th and 1.) Picking up a guy that Colts fans (not the brightest bunch, I'll admit) have nicknamed the Human Cushion? Slightly not good move. Can't be worse than Vasher, can he ?

A friend of mine actually knows Jennings and has hung out with him a couple times in Indy. He said he sucks.

That's refreshing honesty. I was internet acquaintances with this guy who went to college with Aaron Heilman and he was all "oh yeah, he's one of the nicest, most level-headed people I've ever met blah blah, maybe he'll be good," even though it was apparent that he would blow, clearly, and as it turns out, he really blew.

I consider you an internet FRIEND.  Dick.

Really? I mean, my first instinct was to type friend, but I didn't want to just put myself out there for all the world to point and laugh at if you were like "more like acquaintance, man." Either way, you need to explain to Kaplan that I don't actually Want you to piss in his drink, because facebook needs to add green font. But he is pretty orange faced.

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 23, 2010, 04:16:20 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

Any word if they're going to retroactively apply this to the NFC championship game so Brett can go back and try and throw yet another franchise-killing interception?

Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

My guess is if it proves effective in the playoffs they'll try to apply it to the regular season for 2011. If they play that season, anyway.

Quote from: Yeti on March 23, 2010, 04:27:39 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

My guess is if it proves effective in the playoffs they'll try to apply it to the regular season for 2011. If they play that season, anyway.

Good idea to test something like that for 11 games. I mean, I'm sure the percentage of games that go to overtime is over 9.09%, and of those games, I'm sure the occurrence they're trying to fix will happen

Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 24, 2010, 11:08:45 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 23, 2010, 04:27:39 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

My guess is if it proves effective in the playoffs they'll try to apply it to the regular season for 2011. If they play that season, anyway.

Good idea to test something like that for 11 games. I mean, I'm sure the percentage of games that go to overtime is over 9.09%, and of those games, I'm sure the occurrence they're trying to fix will happen

What happens if both teams kick field goals on their respective possessions?

Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 24, 2010, 11:08:45 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 23, 2010, 04:27:39 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

My guess is if it proves effective in the playoffs they'll try to apply it to the regular season for 2011. If they play that season, anyway.

Good idea to test something like that for 11 games. I mean, I'm sure the percentage of games that go to overtime is over 9.09%, and of those games, I'm sure the occurrence they're trying to fix will happen

What happens if both teams kick field goals on their respective possessions?

Quote from: CT III on March 24, 2010, 11:16:19 AM

Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 24, 2010, 11:08:45 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 23, 2010, 04:27:39 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

My guess is if it proves effective in the playoffs they'll try to apply it to the regular season for 2011. If they play that season, anyway.

Good idea to test something like that for 11 games. I mean, I'm sure the percentage of games that go to overtime is over 9.09%, and of those games, I'm sure the occurrence they're trying to fix will happen

What happens if both teams kick field goals on their respective possessions?

Then it's back to sudden death.

Forget that mess, I've already got several mind-blowing questions that need to be addressed:

What if the kicking team excutes and recovers an onside kick?  Can they then win the game with a field goal, or does the opponent still get the ball back?

If the kicking team records a safety on the first possession, is stopped on the ensuing possession and then gives up a field goal, do they lose?

Thrill and SKO said they think that basically the first team to score 6 total points wins.  If a team scores a safety and field goal, do they still have to score again?

Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 11:39:30 AM

Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 24, 2010, 11:08:45 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 23, 2010, 04:27:39 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

My guess is if it proves effective in the playoffs they'll try to apply it to the regular season for 2011. If they play that season, anyway.

Good idea to test something like that for 11 games. I mean, I'm sure the percentage of games that go to overtime is over 9.09%, and of those games, I'm sure the occurrence they're trying to fix will happen

What happens if both teams kick field goals on their respective possessions?

My point was more of just an add-on to Pre's. Apparently since 1973, there have been 445 regular season games that have gone to OT. I did some rough math that gave me around 8500 games played in that span, which translates to 5% of the games.. Since there are only 11 playoff games, the odds of it being an OT game is kind of low since the occurrence doesn't happen once in every 11 games, more like once every 20 games. Now, I'm sure some stats major could tell me the odds of a 5% occurrence to happen in a series of 11 games, but the point remains that they should do it for the regular season too. This isn't that big of a change to where they need to "test" it on some games first.

Quote from: Brownie on March 24, 2010, 01:39:33 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 11:39:30 AM

Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 24, 2010, 11:08:45 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 23, 2010, 04:27:39 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

My guess is if it proves effective in the playoffs they'll try to apply it to the regular season for 2011. If they play that season, anyway.

Good idea to test something like that for 11 games. I mean, I'm sure the percentage of games that go to overtime is over 9.09%, and of those games, I'm sure the occurrence they're trying to fix will happen

What happens if both teams kick field goals on their respective possessions?

My point was more of just an add-on to Pre's. Apparently since 1973, there have been 445 regular season games that have gone to OT. I did some rough math that gave me around 8500 games played in that span, which translates to 5% of the games.. Since there are only 11 playoff games, the odds of it being an OT game is kind of low since the occurrence doesn't happen once in every 11 games, more like once every 20 games. Now, I'm sure some stats major could tell me the odds of a 5% occurrence to happen in a series of 11 games, but the point remains that they should do it for the regular season too. This isn't that big of a change to where they need to "test" it on some games first.

DPD. My guess is the percentage of OT games is higher in the playoffs.

2009 2 of 11 were OT
2008 0 of 11
2007 1 of 11
2006 1 of 11
2005 0 of 11
2004 2 of 11
2003 3 of 11
2002 1 of 11
2001 1 of 11
2000 1 of 11

So in 10 years, we had 110 playoff games and 12 OT games... 10.9%

Quote from: Brownie on March 24, 2010, 01:39:33 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 11:39:30 AM

Quote from: Indolent Reader on March 24, 2010, 11:08:45 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 23, 2010, 04:27:39 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 23, 2010, 03:46:15 PM

Quote from: morpheus on March 23, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Whoa.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHSwbXq1wnH-jmEl-jV4W8M0Vd1wD9EKHCBG1

So fucking stupid.  I hate the new rules to begin with, but at least make
it the same in the regular season.  I hate specialized rules for playoffs
(with the exception of continue instead of calling it a tie type rules.)

My guess is if it proves effective in the playoffs they'll try to apply it to the regular season for 2011. If they play that season, anyway.

Good idea to test something like that for 11 games. I mean, I'm sure the percentage of games that go to overtime is over 9.09%, and of those games, I'm sure the occurrence they're trying to fix will happen

What happens if both teams kick field goals on their respective possessions?

My point was more of just an add-on to Pre's. Apparently since 1973, there have been 445 regular season games that have gone to OT. I did some rough math that gave me around 8500 games played in that span, which translates to 5% of the games.. Since there are only 11 playoff games, the odds of it being an OT game is kind of low since the occurrence doesn't happen once in every 11 games, more like once every 20 games. Now, I'm sure some stats major could tell me the odds of a 5% occurrence to happen in a series of 11 games, but the point remains that they should do it for the regular season too. This isn't that big of a change to where they need to "test" it on some games first.

DPD. My guess is the percentage of OT games is higher in the playoffs.

2009 2 of 11 were OT
2008 0 of 11
2007 1 of 11
2006 1 of 11
2005 0 of 11
2004 2 of 11
2003 3 of 11
2002 1 of 11
2001 1 of 11
2000 1 of 11

So in 10 years, we had 110 playoff games and 12 OT games... 10.9%

Quote from: Brownie on March 24, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
2002: Titans win on FG on first possession of OT, beat PIT

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Quote from: Brownie on March 24, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
2002: Titans win on FG on first possession of OT, beat PIT

Fucking bullshit running-into-the-kicker Joe Nedney piece of shit asshole bullshit.

Quote from: R-V on March 26, 2010, 09:34:58 AM
See ya, Brownie.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/bears-bidding-farewell-to-veteran-de-alex-brown.html

Does he have any trade value? He'll be 31 this season.

Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2010, 09:41:50 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 26, 2010, 09:34:58 AM
See ya, Brownie.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/bears-bidding-farewell-to-veteran-de-alex-brown.html

Does he have any trade value? He'll be 31 this season.

He's still an effective player. I liked Alex Brown quite a bit and I would be willing to bet he loves it here. I think someone will take him, probably for a shitty draft pick.

Quote from: Poon on March 26, 2010, 10:00:40 AM

Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2010, 09:41:50 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 26, 2010, 09:34:58 AM
See ya, Brownie.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/bears-bidding-farewell-to-veteran-de-alex-brown.html

Does he have any trade value? He'll be 31 this season.

He's still an effective player. I liked Alex Brown quite a bit and I would be willing to bet he loves it here. I think someone will take him, probably for a shitty draft pick.

Mark Anderson is not good enough to steal that spot from Brown.  Another awful move by Angelo.

Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2010, 10:08:48 AM

Quote from: Poon on March 26, 2010, 10:00:40 AM

Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2010, 09:41:50 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 26, 2010, 09:34:58 AM
See ya, Brownie.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/bears-bidding-farewell-to-veteran-de-alex-brown.html

Does he have any trade value? He'll be 31 this season.

He's still an effective player. I liked Alex Brown quite a bit and I would be willing to bet he loves it here. I think someone will take him, probably for a shitty draft pick.

Mark Anderson is not good enough to steal that spot from Brown.  Another awful move by Angelo.

From what I've seen, Mark Anderson has been useless since his rookie year. The coaches claim they see something different so who the hell knows?

That said, I am on board with Idonije getting a shot at left end. I've heard the stories about him being able to shape himself depending on where he's playing and he's done well wherever the Bears have needed him to be. Dude's an absolute beast and they might be onto something with this move.

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM

Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2010, 10:08:48 AM

Quote from: Poon on March 26, 2010, 10:00:40 AM

Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2010, 09:41:50 AM

Quote from: R-V on March 26, 2010, 09:34:58 AM
See ya, Brownie.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/bears-bidding-farewell-to-veteran-de-alex-brown.html

Does he have any trade value? He'll be 31 this season.

He's still an effective player. I liked Alex Brown quite a bit and I would be willing to bet he loves it here. I think someone will take him, probably for a shitty draft pick.

Mark Anderson is not good enough to steal that spot from Brown.  Another awful move by Angelo.

From what I've seen, Mark Anderson has been useless since his rookie year. The coaches claim they see something different so who the hell knows?

That said, I am on board with Idonije getting a shot at left end. I've heard the stories about him being able to shape himself depending on where he's playing and he's done well wherever the Bears have needed him to be. Dude's an absolute beast and they might be onto something with this move.

The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

Quote from: Pre on March 26, 2010, 11:30:45 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

For me, this boils down to what they can get for Brown.  If they dump him in a trade or
release him, then it's idiocy.  However, the Bears have tons of needs and if they can
address more pressing things moving Brown then I can't complain much.

Quote from: Pre on March 26, 2010, 11:30:45 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

For me, this boils down to what they can get for Brown.  If they dump him in a trade or
release him, then it's idiocy.  However, the Bears have tons of needs and if they can
address more pressing things moving Brown then I can't complain much.

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 02:53:03 PM
What about that dude who jumps out of pools for a living? Maybe he's good too?

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Quote from: Pre on March 26, 2010, 11:30:45 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

For me, this boils down to what they can get for Brown.  If they dump him in a trade or
release him, then it's idiocy.  However, the Bears have tons of needs and if they can
address more pressing things moving Brown then I can't complain much.

That's exactly what I expect to happen to Brown if the Bears head down this road.

Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:46:38 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 12:17:31 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 26, 2010, 11:30:45 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

For me, this boils down to what they can get for Brown.  If they dump him in a trade or
release him, then it's idiocy.  However, the Bears have tons of needs and if they can
address more pressing things moving Brown then I can't complain much.

That's exactly what I expect to happen to Brown if the Bears head down this road.

I'm as incredulous as the Bears that the "announce that you'll release him if nobody trades for him" strategy didn't net them a 2nd round pick.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/alex-brown-on-pending-release-by-bears-im-in-my-prime-still.html

Quote"Good," one NFC personnel man familiar with the Bears said when told Brown was being cut loose today. "He's one of their better defensive players."

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Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:46:38 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 12:17:31 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 26, 2010, 11:30:45 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

For me, this boils down to what they can get for Brown.  If they dump him in a trade or
release him, then it's idiocy.  However, the Bears have tons of needs and if they can
address more pressing things moving Brown then I can't complain much.

That's exactly what I expect to happen to Brown if the Bears head down this road.

I'm as incredulous as the Bears that the "announce that you'll release him if nobody trades for him" strategy didn't net them a 2nd round pick.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/alex-brown-on-pending-release-by-bears-im-in-my-prime-still.html

Quote"Good," one NFC personnel man familiar with the Bears said when told Brown was being cut loose today. "He's one of their better defensive players."

DOOM

Quote from: Brownie on April 01, 2010, 01:20:50 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 01, 2010, 01:14:47 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:46:38 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 12:17:31 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 26, 2010, 11:30:45 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

For me, this boils down to what they can get for Brown.  If they dump him in a trade or
release him, then it's idiocy.  However, the Bears have tons of needs and if they can
address more pressing things moving Brown then I can't complain much.

That's exactly what I expect to happen to Brown if the Bears head down this road.

I'm as incredulous as the Bears that the "announce that you'll release him if nobody trades for him" strategy didn't net them a 2nd round pick.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/alex-brown-on-pending-release-by-bears-im-in-my-prime-still.html

Quote"Good," one NFC personnel man familiar with the Bears said when told Brown was being cut loose today. "He's one of their better defensive players."

DOOM

"Good," said an NFC man named "Rip" who just woke up from a 25-year-long slumber upon hearing Walter Payton was dead and Dan Hampton, Mike Singletary and Richard Dent had retired. "That's the core of their team."

Quote from: Slaky on April 01, 2010, 01:27:03 PM

Quote from: Brownie on April 01, 2010, 01:20:50 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 01, 2010, 01:14:47 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:46:38 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 12:17:31 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 26, 2010, 11:30:45 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

For me, this boils down to what they can get for Brown.  If they dump him in a trade or
release him, then it's idiocy.  However, the Bears have tons of needs and if they can
address more pressing things moving Brown then I can't complain much.

That's exactly what I expect to happen to Brown if the Bears head down this road.

I'm as incredulous as the Bears that the "announce that you'll release him if nobody trades for him" strategy didn't net them a 2nd round pick.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/alex-brown-on-pending-release-by-bears-im-in-my-prime-still.html

Quote"Good," one NFC personnel man familiar with the Bears said when told Brown was being cut loose today. "He's one of their better defensive players."

DOOM

"Good," said an NFC man named "Rip" who just woke up from a 25-year-long slumber upon hearing Walter Payton was dead and Dan Hampton, Mike Singletary and Richard Dent had retired. "That's the core of their team."

Maybe not the best player on the team, but one of the few that wasn't a total waste. I'm a little bothered by this move.

Quote from: Oleg on April 01, 2010, 01:30:10 PM

Quote from: Slaky on April 01, 2010, 01:27:03 PM

Quote from: Brownie on April 01, 2010, 01:20:50 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 01, 2010, 01:14:47 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:46:38 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 12:17:31 PM

Quote from: Pre on March 26, 2010, 11:30:45 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on March 26, 2010, 10:11:58 AM
The Bears should go with Idonije & Brown and cut their losses with Anderson already.

For me, this boils down to what they can get for Brown.  If they dump him in a trade or
release him, then it's idiocy.  However, the Bears have tons of needs and if they can
address more pressing things moving Brown then I can't complain much.

That's exactly what I expect to happen to Brown if the Bears head down this road.

I'm as incredulous as the Bears that the "announce that you'll release him if nobody trades for him" strategy didn't net them a 2nd round pick.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/alex-brown-on-pending-release-by-bears-im-in-my-prime-still.html

Quote"Good," one NFC personnel man familiar with the Bears said when told Brown was being cut loose today. "He's one of their better defensive players."

DOOM

"Good," said an NFC man named "Rip" who just woke up from a 25-year-long slumber upon hearing Walter Payton was dead and Dan Hampton, Mike Singletary and Richard Dent had retired. "That's the core of their team."

Maybe not the best player on the team, but one of the few that wasn't a total waste. I'm a little bothered by this move.

Same here.  I'm not going to go all DOOM, but is Mark Anderson doing on this team instead of Alex Brown?  Anderson is sort of like the dim-witted, creepy cousin of Julius Peppers, no?  He just seems redundant and just makes for awkward family dinners.

Quote from: Slaky on April 01, 2010, 01:33:03 PM
I saw mention of Henry Melton being someone they want to push. Sorry, who?

Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
Now we're talkin'

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/04/rob-sims-could-be-a-bear-or-a-lion-this-week/

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 08:52:59 AM
According to this site

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=G&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

Sims was the 8th best guard in the league last year. Anyone heard of this site/know of any others that rank players at positions that are more subjective than QB or running back (offensive line, DBs)?

Quote from: Slaky on April 05, 2010, 08:54:05 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 08:52:59 AM
According to this site

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=G&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

Sims was the 8th best guard in the league last year. Anyone heard of this site/know of any others that rank players at positions that are more subjective than QB or running back (offensive line, DBs)?

Nope, I'll take this site's word for it. But if the Bears don't get Sims, I'll declare this site as hocus-pocus bullshit.

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 09:35:56 AM

Quote from: Slaky on April 05, 2010, 08:54:05 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 08:52:59 AM
According to this site

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=G&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

Sims was the 8th best guard in the league last year. Anyone heard of this site/know of any others that rank players at positions that are more subjective than QB or running back (offensive line, DBs)?

Nope, I'll take this site's word for it. But if the Bears don't get Sims, I'll declare this site as hocus-pocus bullshit.

I just noticed that they have 4 offensive tackles rated as worse than Orlando Pace last year. And Peanut as the 82nd best CB. Maybe it is Grade A bullplop.

Quote from: Pre on April 05, 2010, 10:49:13 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 09:35:56 AM

Quote from: Slaky on April 05, 2010, 08:54:05 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 08:52:59 AM
According to this site

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=G&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

Sims was the 8th best guard in the league last year. Anyone heard of this site/know of any others that rank players at positions that are more subjective than QB or running back (offensive line, DBs)?

Nope, I'll take this site's word for it. But if the Bears don't get Sims, I'll declare this site as hocus-pocus bullshit.

I just noticed that they have 4 offensive tackles rated as worse than Orlando Pace last year. And Peanut as the 82nd best CB. Maybe it is Grade A bullplop.

Ranking Pace 73 of 77 sounds about right.

I'm not so sure that, as much as I love Tillman, that he has had good years the last two. 
In 2007 it ranks him at #3 overall.  Football evaluation and advanced stat stuff is a
mystery to me because there's so much team interaction that I don't know how you
can reliably assign things like which defender has what coverage, particularly in the
case where things break down.  I mean, it's easy to identify good plays, but when a
receiver ends up wide open it's frequently a guessing game of who blew the coverage.

Quote from: Pre on April 05, 2010, 10:49:13 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 09:35:56 AM

Quote from: Slaky on April 05, 2010, 08:54:05 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 08:52:59 AM
According to this site

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=G&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

Sims was the 8th best guard in the league last year. Anyone heard of this site/know of any others that rank players at positions that are more subjective than QB or running back (offensive line, DBs)?

Nope, I'll take this site's word for it. But if the Bears don't get Sims, I'll declare this site as hocus-pocus bullshit.

I just noticed that they have 4 offensive tackles rated as worse than Orlando Pace last year. And Peanut as the 82nd best CB. Maybe it is Grade A bullplop.

Ranking Pace 73 of 77 sounds about right.

I'm not so sure that, as much as I love Tillman, that he has had good years the last two. 
In 2007 it ranks him at #3 overall.  Football evaluation and advanced stat stuff is a
mystery to me because there's so much team interaction that I don't know how you
can reliably assign things like which defender has what coverage, particularly in the
case where things break down.  I mean, it's easy to identify good plays, but when a
receiver ends up wide open it's frequently a guessing game of who blew the coverage.

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 11:29:13 AM
Agreed. I know Peanut hasn't been top notch the last couple years, I just find it hard to believe he's been THAT bad.

Quote from: Slaky on April 05, 2010, 12:02:30 PM
It's moot - according to everyone in the NFL, Sims is being traded to Detroit.

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 12:37:35 PM

Quote from: Slaky on April 05, 2010, 12:02:30 PM
It's moot - according to everyone in the NFL, Sims is being traded to Detroit.

Why would the Bears waste a 5th round pick on a starting left guard when they could draft another Claude Harriot or Airese Currie?

Quote from: Brownie on April 21, 2010, 11:33:19 AM
OK, so in the last 24 hours:

- A Bears schedule that includes a lot of early season home games, which might be good, because they'll be limping in the final five or six weeks as well as a trip to Canada;
- The planned retirement of Michael McCaskey as Chairman of the Board and the announced successor, George McCaskey.
- The hints the Bears keep dropping that Olsen could be dealt. Maybe the Bears want a 2nd or 3rd round pick this weekend?
- The re-signing of Nick Roach to a tender sheet. Whither Helen Huntermeyer?
- The announcement of the "throwback" jerseys the Bears will wear a few times this year to celebrate 90 years; About 30 of those years were good; 15 decent; and 45 forgettable.

None of these developments, save for an Olsen trade, changes the overall shittiness of the team. Anyone care?

You will in a week when the Cubs get swept by the Mets and Brewers, the Predators and Cavs advance to the second round and what else will we have?

Quote from: Brownie on April 21, 2010, 11:33:19 AM
OK, so in the last 24 hours:

- A Bears schedule that includes a lot of early season home games, which might be good, because they'll be limping in the final five or six weeks as well as a trip to Canada;
- The planned retirement of Michael McCaskey as Chairman of the Board and the announced successor, George McCaskey.
- The hints the Bears keep dropping that Olsen could be dealt. Maybe the Bears want a 2nd or 3rd round pick this weekend?
- The re-signing of Nick Roach to a tender sheet. Whither Helen Huntermeyer?
- The announcement of the "throwback" jerseys the Bears will wear a few times this year to celebrate 90 years; About 30 of those years were good; 15 decent; and 45 forgettable.

None of these developments, save for an Olsen trade, changes the overall shittiness of the team. Anyone care?

You will in a week when the Cubs get swept by the Mets and Brewers, the Predators and Cavs advance to the second round and what else will we have?

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 21, 2010, 12:16:04 PM

Quote from: Brownie on April 21, 2010, 11:33:19 AM
OK, so in the last 24 hours:

- A Bears schedule that includes a lot of early season home games, which might be good, because they'll be limping in the final five or six weeks as well as a trip to Canada;
- The planned retirement of Michael McCaskey as Chairman of the Board and the announced successor, George McCaskey.
- The hints the Bears keep dropping that Olsen could be dealt. Maybe the Bears want a 2nd or 3rd round pick this weekend?
- The re-signing of Nick Roach to a tender sheet. Whither Helen Huntermeyer?
- The announcement of the "throwback" jerseys the Bears will wear a few times this year to celebrate 90 years; About 30 of those years were good; 15 decent; and 45 forgettable.

None of these developments, save for an Olsen trade, changes the overall shittiness of the team. Anyone care?

You will in a week when the Cubs get swept by the Mets and Brewers, the Predators and Cavs advance to the second round and what else will we have?

Bear down 2010 Chicago Bears! Because you'll have no other choice.

Quote from: CT III on April 21, 2010, 11:39:04 AM
I don't think Olsen's going anywhere, unless they just want to dump him.  Anquan Boldin was traded for a 3rd and 4th round draft pick, and he's actually good.  Olsen might command a 5th or 6th round choice.  Meh.

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 12:38:59 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 21, 2010, 12:16:04 PM

Quote from: Brownie on April 21, 2010, 11:33:19 AM
OK, so in the last 24 hours:

- A Bears schedule that includes a lot of early season home games, which might be good, because they'll be limping in the final five or six weeks as well as a trip to Canada;
- The planned retirement of Michael McCaskey as Chairman of the Board and the announced successor, George McCaskey.
- The hints the Bears keep dropping that Olsen could be dealt. Maybe the Bears want a 2nd or 3rd round pick this weekend?
- The re-signing of Nick Roach to a tender sheet. Whither Helen Huntermeyer?
- The announcement of the "throwback" jerseys the Bears will wear a few times this year to celebrate 90 years; About 30 of those years were good; 15 decent; and 45 forgettable.

None of these developments, save for an Olsen trade, changes the overall shittiness of the team. Anyone care?

You will in a week when the Cubs get swept by the Mets and Brewers, the Predators and Cavs advance to the second round and what else will we have?

Bear down 2010 Chicago Bears! Because you'll have no other choice.

At least we have soccer.

(http://www.buckleshop.com/images/2608e.jpg)

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 01:01:17 PM
How  about lacrosse?

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Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 21, 2010, 01:48:43 PM
I choose to stick with my local team from '07.  If only because of the logo.

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Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 21, 2010, 02:21:24 PM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 21, 2010, 01:48:43 PM
I choose to stick with my local team from '07.  If only because of the logo.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c8/Mousel.png)

Tee hee.  Penis.

Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2010, 01:23:20 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 01:01:17 PM
How  about lacrosse?

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You just made that one up.

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 02:33:22 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2010, 01:23:20 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 01:01:17 PM
How  about lacrosse?

(http://theexpiredmeter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/chicagomachine-logo1.jpg)

You just made that one up.

http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/ (http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/)

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 01:47:03 PM
What sucks is that with the Bears not having a pick until the 2nd day of the draft, what would usually be my brief moment of football in the midst of all this darkness is dimmed a bit. I mean I'll still probably watch, but it's not that much fun only watching other teams get good players and then watching Tampa Bay use the second round pick they got for trading the Bears a dead guy.

Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2010, 02:43:05 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 02:33:22 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2010, 01:23:20 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 01:01:17 PM
How  about lacrosse?

(http://theexpiredmeter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/chicagomachine-logo1.jpg)

You just made that one up.

http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/ (http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/)

Yeti and KurtEvans have a seminar you might want to attend.

Quote from: Yeti on April 21, 2010, 03:01:44 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2010, 02:43:05 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 02:33:22 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2010, 01:23:20 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2010, 01:01:17 PM
How  about lacrosse?

(http://theexpiredmeter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/chicagomachine-logo1.jpg)

You just made that one up.

http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/ (http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/)

Yeti and KurtEvans have a seminar you might want to attend.

Yea, dude. You should totally come out. Keynote speaker right here. First, I'm going to start off with "Go tell your mom she's looking for you." Just to start off strong. We'll get a few mom jokes out of the way. Maybe hit up on the proper way to be butthurt. Incoherent rants about a man's blickity blackness and how it helps him will follow. "What do lawyers and Menard's have in common? They keep fucking you with drywall costs on a daily basis." Stuff like that. To top it off, we're going to have a little special seminar on the proper way to fuck over a sportswriter, and the power of sabremetrics. Plus, the proper way to be racist and love Milton Bradley. It will be truly great.

*Final slide will point right to this post

**Also, a little word to the wise, you can post a link to a website without the url tags in there. Just copy-paste and it will be a clickable link. I know I don't overexert myself to type the url tags on them. I'd hate for others to do the same.

Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 09:18:28 PM
Tebow and McDaniels. A match made in douche heaven.

Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 09:18:28 PM
Tebow and McDaniels. A match made in douche heaven.

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

According to the ESPN geniuses, that's what Josh McDaniels is all about.  Character guys.  Good people.  Tebow is his kind of pick.

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 22, 2010, 10:00:48 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

According to the ESPN geniuses, that's what Josh McDaniels is all about.  Character guys.  Good people.  Tebow is his kind of pick.

LMFAOWIHABAFAFIMRAAMMYAMTTDMRFBNA!11!!!!11111

Laughing my figurative ass off while I have Boba Fett action figure in my real ass and my mom yells at me to turn down my Rush Fly by Night album.

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

According to the ESPN geniuses, that's what Josh McDaniels is all about.  Character guys.  Good people.  Tebow is his kind of pick.

Quote from: fiveouts on April 22, 2010, 10:14:28 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

According to the ESPN geniuses, that's what Josh McDaniels is all about.  Character guys.  Good people.  Tebow is his kind of pick.

I'll give a little credit to Steve Young, who said (about the Broncos first pick):


"Let me get this straight.  You used a first round pick, and committed first round money, to a guy you hope will someday be almost as good as the guy YOU JUST TRADED?" 

Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 10:16:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on April 22, 2010, 10:14:28 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

According to the ESPN geniuses, that's what Josh McDaniels is all about.  Character guys.  Good people.  Tebow is his kind of pick.

I'll give a little credit to Steve Young, who said (about the Broncos first pick):


"Let me get this straight.  You used a first round pick, and committed first round money, to a guy you hope will someday be almost as good as the guy YOU JUST TRADED?" 

He might not be as good as Cutler but he's got heart and WANT TO.

Quote from: fiveouts on April 22, 2010, 10:22:12 PM

Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 10:16:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on April 22, 2010, 10:14:28 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

According to the ESPN geniuses, that's what Josh McDaniels is all about.  Character guys.  Good people.  Tebow is his kind of pick.

I'll give a little credit to Steve Young, who said (about the Broncos first pick):


"Let me get this straight.  You used a first round pick, and committed first round money, to a guy you hope will someday be almost as good as the guy YOU JUST TRADED?" 

He might not be as good as Cutler but he's got heart and WANT TO.

So how many of the doofuses in Chicago media will point out that the Bears received Jay Cutler and freed up money to get Julius Peppers, and gave up what has become Robert Ayers and Tim Tebow?

Quote from: fiveouts on April 22, 2010, 10:22:12 PM

Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 10:16:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on April 22, 2010, 10:14:28 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

According to the ESPN geniuses, that's what Josh McDaniels is all about.  Character guys.  Good people.  Tebow is his kind of pick.

I'll give a little credit to Steve Young, who said (about the Broncos first pick):


"Let me get this straight.  You used a first round pick, and committed first round money, to a guy you hope will someday be almost as good as the guy YOU JUST TRADED?" 

He might not be as good as Cutler but he's got heart and WANT TO.

So how many of the doofuses in Chicago media will point out that the Bears received Jay Cutler and freed up money to get Julius Peppers, and gave up what has become Robert Ayers and Tim Tebow?

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2010, 10:28:29 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on April 22, 2010, 10:22:12 PM

Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 10:16:50 PM

Quote from: fiveouts on April 22, 2010, 10:14:28 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

Quote from: Andy on April 22, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Josh McDaniels was hired to direct an offense with Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler and in 10 months he's turned it into Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow.

That is a special kind of genius.

According to the ESPN geniuses, that's what Josh McDaniels is all about.  Character guys.  Good people.  Tebow is his kind of pick.

I'll give a little credit to Steve Young, who said (about the Broncos first pick):


"Let me get this straight.  You used a first round pick, and committed first round money, to a guy you hope will someday be almost as good as the guy YOU JUST TRADED?" 

He might not be as good as Cutler but he's got heart and WANT TO.

So how many of the doofuses in Chicago media will point out that the Bears received Jay Cutler and freed up money to get Julius Peppers, and gave up what has become Robert Ayers and Tim Tebow?

Yeah but in Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow the Broncos have two quarterbacks who JUST WIN GAMES. That means the Broncos will be undefeated.

QuoteWho knows what this means? How can you possibly classify this pick? Yes Mel Kiper doesn't like him. Yes his throwing motion is too long. There's more that makes a successful qb then just raw mechanics or form. If it were that easy then 1st round qbs wouldn't have the bust rate they do. And all those things you can't put on paper? Tebow has all of them in spades. Work ethic, leadership, maturity and responsibility. He's arguably the most successful college football player of all time. Anyone who is willing to check out on the broncos because of this doesn't realize that being a fan sometimes requires you to check your doubts at the door and just have faith.

Quotequestionable impact on the field but great locker room guy immediately. I like it.

QuoteI am getting rid of my season tickets because of tebows religious views, guy sucks and is a watse of a first round pick

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2010, 10:42:36 PM
Oh the Broncotalk.net comments (http://broncotalk.net/2010/04/15032/broncos-news/tim-tebow-denver-broncos-select-qb-in-first-round/#disqus_thread)-

QuoteWho knows what this means? How can you possibly classify this pick? Yes Mel Kiper doesn't like him. Yes his throwing motion is too long. There's more that makes a successful qb then just raw mechanics or form. If it were that easy then 1st round qbs wouldn't have the bust rate they do. And all those things you can't put on paper? Tebow has all of them in spades. Work ethic, leadership, maturity and responsibility. He's arguably the most successful college football player of all time. Anyone who is willing to check out on the broncos because of this doesn't realize that being a fan sometimes requires you to check your doubts at the door and just have faith.

Quotequestionable impact on the field but great locker room guy immediately. I like it.

the dissenting view-

QuoteI am getting rid of my season tickets because of tebows religious views, guy sucks and is a watse of a first round pick

So the ones that like Tebow like him for his INTANGIBLES, and the ones that don't hate him for being religious. Smart football fans in Denver. And I was surprised last year when they thought Orton was better than Cutler.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2010, 10:42:36 PM

Quotequestionable impact on the field but great locker room guy immediately. I like it.

Quote
Tim Tebow will get to wear his beloved Orange and Blue for years to come, just our different shades.  Tebow has all the physical tools necessary to succeed at the next level and any coach worth his salt can teach someone with his dedication, willpower and athleticism the skills to go along with those natural gifts.  I know it's become trite, but Tim really is the epitome of character and leadership.  To put it another way: he is the embodiment of McD's ideals.  He's tough, smart, physical, versatile, team-first, leads vocally, etc.  We may not need another quarterback, but you always want guys like this on your football team.  If the goal is to put the best 53-man TEAM together, how could Tebow not be one of those men?

Quote from: Day Man on April 22, 2010, 10:48:36 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2010, 10:42:36 PM
Oh the Broncotalk.net comments (http://broncotalk.net/2010/04/15032/broncos-news/tim-tebow-denver-broncos-select-qb-in-first-round/#disqus_thread)-

QuoteWho knows what this means? How can you possibly classify this pick? Yes Mel Kiper doesn't like him. Yes his throwing motion is too long. There's more that makes a successful qb then just raw mechanics or form. If it were that easy then 1st round qbs wouldn't have the bust rate they do. And all those things you can't put on paper? Tebow has all of them in spades. Work ethic, leadership, maturity and responsibility. He's arguably the most successful college football player of all time. Anyone who is willing to check out on the broncos because of this doesn't realize that being a fan sometimes requires you to check your doubts at the door and just have faith.

Quotequestionable impact on the field but great locker room guy immediately. I like it.

the dissenting view-

QuoteI am getting rid of my season tickets because of tebows religious views, guy sucks and is a watse of a first round pick

So the ones that like Tebow like him for his INTANGIBLES, and the ones that don't hate him for being religious. Smart football fans in Denver. And I was surprised last year when they thought Orton was better than Cutler.

I was laughing every time ESPN showed video of him throwing.  Then again, we all know Denver needed a fullback.

Quote from: JD on April 22, 2010, 11:36:25 PM
I can't believe Claussen didn't get drafted!  That is just crazy to me.  He's good.  I'm being serious.  Sure, he's probably a d-bag, but he was raised to be a QB-in' d-bag and he QBs.  Somebody's gonna get one heckuva undrafted FA.  I bet it's the Saints because they love Catholics, too.  I'm just kind of relieved the draft is over and we can concentrate on cubs baseball again.  BUT, mark my words, people will regret not drafting Casey Clausen's little d-bag bro.

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 23, 2010, 05:48:18 AM
Holy shit are the Broncos stupid.

Quote from: fiveouts on April 23, 2010, 08:08:51 AM
Is there anything in sports more overvalued than 1st round NFL picks?

Boldin goes for a 3rd and 4th and Tim fucking Tebow gets a 2nd, 3rd, an 4th.  What.  The.  Fuck.

Quote from: Poon on April 23, 2010, 11:41:46 AM
I thought the Bronco's would waste their pick on the undersized, tiny handed Claussen.

Quote from: Poon on April 23, 2010, 11:41:46 AM
I'm still laughing my ass off over Tebow getting drafted that early.  I thought the Bronco's would waste their pick on the undersized, tiny handed Claussen.  Josh McDaniels, sir, I salute you.  You bring the draftlolz.

Quote from: Brownie on April 23, 2010, 11:59:41 AM

Quote from: Poon on April 23, 2010, 11:41:46 AM
I'm still laughing my ass off over Tebow getting drafted that early.  I thought the Bronco's would waste their pick on the undersized, tiny handed Claussen.  Josh McDaniels, sir, I salute you.  You bring the draftlolz.

What's Orton's contract look like? Does he get a roster bonus? With Brady Quinn still making first round money (He is, right?) and Tebow ready to make everyone forget Rex Grossman, can the Broncos afford to keep Orton?

QuoteWith the selection of QB Tim Tebow in the first round of the NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos do not appear inclined to sign QB Kyle Orton to a long-term extension, writes Mike Klis, of The Denver Post. Orton will likely be give the first chance to start in 2010, but he will be playing out a one-year contract for the second year in a row.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2010, 11:16:06 PM
More from Mile High Report:

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Tim Tebow will get to wear his beloved Orange and Blue for years to come, just our different shades.  Tebow has all the physical tools necessary to succeed at the next level and any coach worth his salt can teach someone with his dedication, willpower and athleticism the skills to go along with those natural gifts.  I know it's become trite, but Tim really is the epitome of character and leadership.  To put it another way: he is the embodiment of McD's ideals.  He's tough, smart, physical, versatile, team-first, leads vocally, etc.  We may not need another quarterback, but you always want guys like this on your football team.  If the goal is to put the best 53-man TEAM together, how could Tebow not be one of those men?

We may not NEED a quarterback, but lets waste a first round pick and trade away three other picks to get one so he can lead the team in prayer at half time.

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But Josh McDaniels told me early this morning that the Tim Tebow pick came down to Tebow meeting every one of the parameters he sets out for a quarterback: competitiveness, work ethic, leadership, traits of a winner, intelligence, toughness, productivity.

Quote from: Ivy6 on April 23, 2010, 03:12:48 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2010, 11:16:06 PM
More from Mile High Report:

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Tim Tebow will get to wear his beloved Orange and Blue for years to come, just our different shades.  Tebow has all the physical tools necessary to succeed at the next level and any coach worth his salt can teach someone with his dedication, willpower and athleticism the skills to go along with those natural gifts.  I know it's become trite, but Tim really is the epitome of character and leadership.  To put it another way: he is the embodiment of McD's ideals.  He's tough, smart, physical, versatile, team-first, leads vocally, etc.  We may not need another quarterback, but you always want guys like this on your football team.  If the goal is to put the best 53-man TEAM together, how could Tebow not be one of those men?

We may not NEED a quarterback, but lets waste a first round pick and trade away three other picks to get one so he can lead the team in prayer at half time.

Against my better judgement, I clicked on Pete King during a slow afternoon.  I was rewarded with this nugget:

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But Josh McDaniels told me early this morning that the Tim Tebow pick came down to Tebow meeting every one of the parameters he sets out for a quarterback: competitiveness, work ethic, leadership, traits of a winner, intelligence, toughness, productivity.

Honorable Mention: Arm strength, accuracy, footwork, release.

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"I reached out to Clausen when the first round ended, and when I identified myself, I got a dispirited "I can't talk now,'' and a hangup. Don't blame him"

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/23/nfl.draft/index.html#ixzz0lxH8Sl1a

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 23, 2010, 06:27:21 PM
Scratch Taylor Mays off your list.

Quote from: Day Man on April 23, 2010, 10:47:40 PM
True or False: Barring injury, Major Wright will start at safety on Week 1.

Quote from: Day Man on April 23, 2010, 10:47:40 PM
True or False: Barring injury, Major Wright will start at safety on Week 1.

Quote from: air2300 on April 23, 2010, 11:28:34 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 23, 2010, 10:47:40 PM
True or False: Barring injury, Major Wright will start at safety on Week 1.

True.  He is going to be really good for the Bears.  If he learns to not gamble as much, he can be Nick Collins type of a player.  

Quote from: air2300 on April 23, 2010, 11:28:34 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 23, 2010, 10:47:40 PM
True or False: Barring injury, Major Wright will start at safety on Week 1.

True.  He is going to be really good for the Bears.  If he learns to not gamble as much, he can be Nick Collins type of a player.

QuoteAn overrated one-dimensional player with a niche set of skills suited only for a system tailored to maximize those traits while covering up glaring holes?

Quoteby the headline i thought you meant he has alot of work to do before he could ever start at his position in the NFL.

QuoteGreat comparison. When I saw the title I thought "So he's a right wing religious nut who can't play his own position and was drafted far too high."

Quote from: R-V on April 24, 2010, 10:47:41 AM
So, Northwestern dorks, is Wootton any good?

Quote from: Yeti on April 24, 2010, 11:14:14 AM
Even though I'm not his biggest fan as he's a bit frustrating, here's a cool story about Kevin Payne's draft day weekend.

Part 1 (http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/4/21/1434547/kevin-paynes-nfl-draft-day-whered)
Part 2 (http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/4/22/1436644/kevin-paynes-nfl-draft-day-get-off)
Part 3 (http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/4/23/1439168/kevin-paynes-nfl-draft-day-a-dream)

Quote from: Indolent Reader on April 24, 2010, 11:23:18 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 24, 2010, 10:47:41 AM
So, Northwestern dorks, is Wootton any good?

[...] We'll see.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 24, 2010, 11:40:32 AM

Quote from: Yeti on April 24, 2010, 11:14:14 AM
Even though I'm not his biggest fan as he's a bit frustrating, here's a cool story about Kevin Payne's draft day weekend.

Part 1 (http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/4/21/1434547/kevin-paynes-nfl-draft-day-whered)
Part 2 (http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/4/22/1436644/kevin-paynes-nfl-draft-day-get-off)
Part 3 (http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/4/23/1439168/kevin-paynes-nfl-draft-day-a-dream)

That's pretty cool.

Quote from: Day Man on April 24, 2010, 06:43:15 PM
Wootton might have been picked in the first two rounds if it weren't for that injury.  He was never 100% this year and even now is being quoted as saying he's around 90-95%.  He only ran a 4.9 forty, but again, he's capable of a lot more respectable time once all those torn -CL's heal up.  Great physical tools and height (6'6).  Played so inconsistently as a fresh/soph there was some talk he'd be moved to OT to help shore up the O-line, but then he had a breakout junior year with 10 sacks.  If he can get healthy, regain his speed, and bulk up a little bit, he could be a very effective pass rusher in the NFL.  At the very least, he's a special teams stud with a talent for blocking FGs.

Quote from: SKO on April 24, 2010, 06:49:44 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 24, 2010, 06:43:15 PM
Wootton might have been picked in the first two rounds if it weren't for that injury.  He was never 100% this year and even now is being quoted as saying he's around 90-95%.  He only ran a 4.9 forty, but again, he's capable of a lot more respectable time once all those torn -CL's heal up.  Great physical tools and height (6'6).  Played so inconsistently as a fresh/soph there was some talk he'd be moved to OT to help shore up the O-line, but then he had a breakout junior year with 10 sacks.  If he can get healthy, regain his speed, and bulk up a little bit, he could be a very effective pass rusher in the NFL.  At the very least, he's a special teams stud with a talent for blocking FGs.

Not a bad pick at all for where they took him. I'm actually going to give this draft a slight positive. They did well with what they had. Safety was a huge need and I think Wright at least a 2nd round talent that they got in the third. Wooten has legitimate talent as well. I liked Lefevour alot before the season, and while I was disappointed with his Senior Bowl, I think he's third round project or even good competition for Caleb Hanie if they bring in a veteran back-up and only keep one of the kids. I don't know much about Moore, but he can't be any worse than Nathan Vasher, can he? J'Marcus Wbb was also good value for a 7th round pick. He comes from West Texas A & M, but he started at Texas and left to get more playing time. He's got NFL size and a nice wingspan. I'm wondering if they'll try him as a guard or leave him at tackle.

Quote from: BC on April 24, 2010, 07:15:56 PM
Would've preferred another offensive lineman or a receiver over getting LeFevour... The Bears traded for Cutler, they need to protect him and get him more weapons to work with. Other than that, I think the draft is a B+ in terms of the talent selected, unfortunately with the lack of picks the overall grade is probably a B-. I think this offseason has been pretty good, although I still worry about how Olsen is going to be utilized by Martz. If Martz really wants the TE to be a blocker the vast majority of the time, then the Bears should have shopped Olsen and tried to get an additional pick or two...

Quote from: BC on April 24, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
I would like to see the Bears try to work out a one-year deal with Faneca now that the Jets released him. Some scouts said that he dropped off in the second half of the '09 campaign. However I watched a couple of their regular season games down the stretch, along with their playoff games, and only saw one play where I thought Faneca looked really bad...

Quote from: Day Man on April 24, 2010, 08:38:58 PM

Quote from: BC on April 24, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
I would like to see the Bears try to work out a one-year deal with Faneca now that the Jets released him. Some scouts said that he dropped off in the second half of the '09 campaign. However I watched a couple of their regular season games down the stretch, along with their playoff games, and only saw one play where I thought Faneca looked really bad...

Yeah, what do those so-called "scouts" know anyway?

Quote from: BC on April 24, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
I would like to see the Bears try to work out a one-year deal with Faneca now that the Jets released him. Some scouts said that he dropped off in the second half of the '09 campaign. However I watched a couple of their regular season games down the stretch, along with their playoff games, and only saw one play where I thought Faneca looked really bad...

Quote from: SKO on April 24, 2010, 11:35:53 PM

Quote from: BC on April 24, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
I would like to see the Bears try to work out a one-year deal with Faneca now that the Jets released him. Some scouts said that he dropped off in the second half of the '09 campaign. However I watched a couple of their regular season games down the stretch, along with their playoff games, and only saw one play where I thought Faneca looked really bad...

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=5133405

Quote from: Andy on April 23, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
Hey, she just figured out that Joakim Noah isn't a girl, I had to find something else for her to be hilariously fooled by.

QuoteAs Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post points out, the eventual marriage was sparked by a 15-minute session at the Scouting Combine, when Tebow met with coach Josh McDaniels and other members of the Broncos' contingent.

"I was jacked leaving that room," Tebow said.  "I didn't even want to visit another room.  It was not enough time.  We were excited, we were enthusiastic.  There was passion.  It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice.  The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
McDaniels agreed.  "We left [the Combine] saying, 'Boy, that's pretty unique, what he has and his passion for this game and for winning.'  He's been a winner, and you could see why."

Tebow has a plan for winning the affection of the rest of the organization.  "I'm going to have one goal and that goal is to earn the respect of my teammates and coaches," Tebow said.  "That's the only goal I have.  It's not to be the starting quarterback right now, it is to earn their respect, because when you earn respect from people, then they begin to like you, and then they believe in you, and then they begin to love you, and then you have a team that is united and cares about each other more than anything else.


"Then you go out there and you play for each other, you play for your coaches and you win championships."

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 25, 2010, 08:18:04 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 24, 2010, 11:35:53 PM

Quote from: BC on April 24, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
I would like to see the Bears try to work out a one-year deal with Faneca now that the Jets released him. Some scouts said that he dropped off in the second half of the '09 campaign. However I watched a couple of their regular season games down the stretch, along with their playoff games, and only saw one play where I thought Faneca looked really bad...

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=5133405

Supa Bears, Supa Bowe! Supa Bears, Supa Bowe!