Here's where we complain about Ted Lilly's bum flipper and Starlin Castro's devolution into Korey.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Here's where we complain about Ted Lilly's bum flipper and Starlin Castro's devolution into Korey.
I hate Ted Lilly's injury and Starlin's devolution into Korey.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Here's where we complain about Ted Lilly's bum flipper and Starlin Castro's devolution into Korey.
FY, C. I'm here to bring some sunshine into your lives. Carlos Zambrano and Geo Soto are lean mean battery machines! If the Cubs get a little more production out of Zambrano, Ramirez, Soriano, Soto and the spots once occupied by the games maker and the guy with the weird glasses, I positive what should result.
Also, I listened to about 2 minutes of Phil Rogers on the Score this morning. As a Catholic, I feel like I have incurred enough suffering for Lent. Lent's over. Fat Wednesday!
Quote from: Brownie on February 17, 2010, 09:46:05 AM
As a Catholic, I feel like I have incurred enough suffering for Lent. Lent's over. Fat Wednesday!
Oh, shit. Lent has started? That means Passover is on the way. Anyone have a lead on the best blood for matzoh making this year?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: Brownie on February 17, 2010, 09:46:05 AM
As a Catholic, I feel like I have incurred enough suffering for Lent. Lent's over. Fat Wednesday!
Oh, shit. Lent has started? That means Passover is on the way. Anyone have a lead on the best blood for matzoh making this year?
I know a few Christians with innocent babies. Want I should hook you up?
I'm going to be watching this team's CHEMISTRY very closely.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Starlin Castro's devolution into KoreyKen Griffey Jr.
Wittenmyer'd (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/-1,021610-cubs-myths-16.photogallery?index=5)
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 17, 2010, 10:23:18 AM
I'm going to be watching this team's CHEMISTRY very closely.
Which team's CHEMISTRY? I know a team that believes in CHEMISTRY:
(http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5h8AOo3dFxpCWPsMmwwN6CqmTO_pQ?size=l)
Quote from: Brownie on February 17, 2010, 09:46:05 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Here's where we complain about Ted Lilly's bum flipper and Starlin Castro's devolution into Korey.
FY, C. I'm here to bring some sunshine into your lives. Carlos Zambrano and Geo Soto are lean mean battery machines! If the Cubs get a little more production out of Zambrano, Ramirez, Soriano, Soto and the spots once occupied by the games maker and the guy with the weird glasses, I positive what should result.
Also, I listened to about 2 minutes of Phil Rogers on the Score this morning. As a Catholic, I feel like I have incurred enough suffering for Lent. Lent's over. Fat Wednesday!
Fuck. Yeah! This still pretty much the same team that won 97 games two years ago.
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
How can Silva underperform when everyone expects him to be shitty anyway?
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
If Yeti supports Silva (as some sort of fat solidarity thing, I would guess), I will up his ghey pill dosage until he chokes to death on dong.
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:32:33 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
If Yeti supports Silva (as some sort of fat solidarity thing, I would guess), I will up his ghey pill dosage until he chokes to death on dong.
Marlon Byrd. I think he's a little chubby, and he's going to be worse than Bradley was. Although I'm sure his WVIPSC will be through the roof and Yeti will claim he's the key to the lineup while throwing us all under the bus at some other shitty Cubs website.
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
That is a great assumption.. I mean, why wouldn't the guy who created the "Fuck You Carlos Silva Thread" be the one to irrationally get behind that fat fuck?
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
That is a great assumption.. I mean, why wouldn't the guy who created the "Fuck You Carlos Silva Thread" be the one to irrationally get behind that fat fuck?
How are we supposed to make sense of your tangled mess of lies and deception, you treacherous blob?!
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
That is a great assumption.. I mean, why wouldn't the guy who created the "Fuck You Carlos Silva Thread" be the one to irrationally get behind that fat fuck?
That says it all.
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
That is a great assumption.. I mean, why wouldn't the guy who created the "Fuck You Carlos Silva Thread" be the one to irrationally get behind that fat fuck?
How are we supposed to make sense of your tangled mess of lies and deception, you treacherous blob?!
We'll just have to monitor ACB closely.
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:51:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
That is a great assumption.. I mean, why wouldn't the guy who created the "Fuck You Carlos Silva Thread" be the one to irrationally get behind that fat fuck?
How are we supposed to make sense of your tangled mess of lies and deception, you treacherous blob?!
We'll just have to monitor ACB closely.
Someone watch Paul Sullivan's twitter feed. That way we can anticipate further treachery.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 17, 2010, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:32:33 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
If Yeti supports Silva (as some sort of fat solidarity thing, I would guess), I will up his ghey pill dosage until he chokes to death on dong.
Marlon Byrd. I think he's a little chubby, and he's going to be worse than Bradley was. Although I'm sure his WVIPSC will be through the roof and Yeti will claim he's the key to the lineup while throwing us all under the bus at some other shitty Cubs website.
This made my spit my red Gatorade on my newly laundered shirt this morning. Thanks, funnyman.
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
That is a great assumption.. I mean, why wouldn't the guy who created the "Fuck You Carlos Silva Thread" be the one to irrationally get behind that fat fuck?
How are we supposed to make sense of your tangled mess of lies and deception, you treacherous blob?!
This was well-crafted, and it made me laugh. Just thought you should know that.
Wake me up on April 5th, and I'll let you know if I still fucking hate this team and curse the day that I was born into rooting for them.
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:51:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
That is a great assumption.. I mean, why wouldn't the guy who created the "Fuck You Carlos Silva Thread" be the one to irrationally get behind that fat fuck?
How are we supposed to make sense of your tangled mess of lies and deception, you treacherous blob?!
We'll just have to monitor ACB closely.
Wait, if Yeti's the spy, why do the rest of us have to be tortured?
Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:51:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
All I want to know is if the Cubs have a totally misanthropic, underperforming asshole that Yeti can defend long after everyone else has given up on him this year.
My money's on Carlos Silva for this important role.
That is a great assumption.. I mean, why wouldn't the guy who created the "Fuck You Carlos Silva Thread" be the one to irrationally get behind that fat fuck?
How are we supposed to make sense of your tangled mess of lies and deception, you treacherous blob?!
We'll just have to monitor ACB closely.
Wait, if Yeti's the spy, why do the rest of us have to be tortured?
We're already planning on watching the 2010 Cubs. Might as well go all in on the misery.
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
We're already planning on watching the 2010 Cubs. Might as well go all in on the misery.
Not me. I'm making maztoh.
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Quote from: Brownie on February 17, 2010, 10:25:46 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 17, 2010, 10:23:18 AM
I'm going to be watching this team's CHEMISTRY very closely.
Which team's CHEMISTRY? I know a team that believes in CHEMISTRY:
(http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5h8AOo3dFxpCWPsMmwwN6CqmTO_pQ?size=l)
CKE.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 17, 2010, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 17, 2010, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Seppaku?
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 17, 2010, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 17, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 17, 2010, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:23:47 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 17, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 17, 2010, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
Very dark glasses.
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 17, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 17, 2010, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Mike Fontenot thinks all of those are great ideas.
Quote from: morpheus on February 17, 2010, 11:28:50 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Mike Fontenot thinks all of those are great ideas.
You guys are retards if you don't think Rudy Jaramillo is going to turn Fontenot's hitting around.
Luis Rivas? He's still around? Jebus.
sure
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:23:47 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
No
Congrats Chuck - you've already got me to give up on baseball this year.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 17, 2010, 12:23:57 PM
Congrats Chuck - you've already got me to give up on baseball this year.
You're welcome. I've just found you a few hundred hours to do with what you please.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:23:47 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
I'll say it...I don't know why they don't sign Felipe Lopez to a 1-year deal.
He's better than any of the internal options at this point and considering he's unsigned on 2/17, he can't be that expensive.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
I'll say it...I don't know why they don't sign Felipe Lopez to a 1-year deal.
He's better than any of the internal options at this point and considering he's unsigned on 2/17, he can't be that expensive.
Hendry loves
bad second basemen.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:23:47 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 17, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 17, 2010, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
I'll say it...I don't know why they don't sign Felipe Lopez to a 1-year deal.
He's better than any of the internal options at this point and considering he's unsigned on 2/17, he can't be that expensive.
Jarrod Washburn is probably better than all of their fifth starter options, too, and with each passing day, his price tag drops more and more.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
I'll say it...I don't know why they don't sign Felipe Lopez to a 1-year deal.
He's better than any of the internal options at this point and considering he's unsigned on 2/17, he can't be that expensive.
I saw that he was still unsigned, too. My main point by asking the question was that I would really prefer Theriot to play 2B. It's just that those darn quality SS's don't grow on trees.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 01:11:54 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
I'll say it...I don't know why they don't sign Felipe Lopez to a 1-year deal.
He's better than any of the internal options at this point and considering he's unsigned on 2/17, he can't be that expensive.
I saw that he was still unsigned, too. My main point by asking the question was that I would really prefer Theriot to play 2B. It's just that those darn quality SS's don't grow on trees.
The Riot/Baker option really doesn't make my eyes bleed. It's not the balls but I'm sort of halfway convinced that neither guy is a complete and total turd. So basically, I offer and conclude nothing. Go Starlin. Claim your birthright and save our city. Parts of it anyway.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
I'll say it...I don't know why they don't sign Felipe Lopez to a 1-year deal.
He's better than any of the internal options at this point and considering he's unsigned on 2/17, he can't be that expensive.
Felipe's numbers aren't that different than O-dog's. He'd definitely be better than what we have.
Issue is that he's rumored to be a "bad clubhouse guy", so no way would Hendry even think about signing him.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
I'll say it...I don't know why they don't sign Felipe Lopez to a 1-year deal.
He's better than any of the internal options at this point and considering he's unsigned on 2/17, he can't be that expensive.
Here's a positive for Felipe Lopez:
(http://www.nationalspride.com/columnists/ian/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/img002.jpg)
However, baseball skill is not a positive for him.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 01:11:54 PM
It's just that those darn quality SS's don't grow on trees.
Unlike your average Miguel Cabrera.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 17, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
So, serious question. Let's say Starlin Castro really isn't ready, which I'm assuming to be true. Are the Cubs really going to play Theriot and Baker up the middle?
Yes.
What other options do they have? /Rhetorical question.
Andres Blanco, Mike Fontenot, Luis Rivas, BOBBY SCALES...
Any options that won't make my eyes bleed?
I'll say it...I don't know why they don't sign Felipe Lopez to a 1-year deal.
He's better than any of the internal options at this point and considering he's unsigned on 2/17, he can't be that expensive.
Here's a positive for Felipe Lopez:
(http://www.nationalspride.com/columnists/ian/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/img002.jpg)
However, baseball skill is not a positive for him.
He has nice tits?
I don't get it.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 17, 2010, 09:36:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Here's where we complain about Ted Lilly's bum flipper and Starlin Castro's devolution into Korey.
I hate Ted Lilly's injury and Starlin's devolution into Korey.
Carrie says outlook good. (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/9243387634)
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 17, 2010, 09:36:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Here's where we complain about Ted Lilly's bum flipper and Starlin Castro's devolution into Korey.
I hate Ted Lilly's injury and Starlin's devolution into Korey.
Carrie says outlook good. (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/9243387634)
Was she having lunch with Chuck? And what word from Slezak?
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 17, 2010, 09:36:22 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Here's where we complain about Ted Lilly's bum flipper and Starlin Castro's devolution into Korey.
I hate Ted Lilly's injury and Starlin's devolution into Korey.
Carrie says outlook good. (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/9243387634)
Was she having lunch with Chuck? And what word from Slezak?
Slezak and I were having lunch.
Moises Alou was on Baseball Tonight and he said Starlin Castro is going to be a star. I believe in Moises.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 17, 2010, 01:41:29 PM
Carrie says outlook good. (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/9243387634)
Saying he'd like to be ready is a lot different then he thinks he'll be ready. I read that
as the diplomatic way of saying no way in hell.
I'm pretty upbeat about this year. I really think Jaramillo is going to get Milton going and we'll see a 2008-like year out of him. Redemption time, baby! The best part? Not more Fontenot!
Quote from: ChuckD on February 17, 2010, 07:20:39 PM
I'm pretty upbeat about this year. I really think Jaramillo is going to get Milton going and we'll see a 2008-like year out of him. Redemption time, baby! The best part? Not more Fontenot!
With an ace like Peavy, it's a championship waiting to happen!
Quote from: Day Man on February 17, 2010, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on February 17, 2010, 07:20:39 PM
I'm pretty upbeat about this year. I really think Jaramillo is going to get Milton going and we'll see a 2008-like year out of him. Redemption time, baby! The best part? Not more Fontenot!
With an ace like Peavy, it's a championship waiting to happen!
I'm looking forward to a career year from leadoff hitter Brian Roberts myself.
Quote from: Jon on February 17, 2010, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: Day Man on February 17, 2010, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on February 17, 2010, 07:20:39 PM
I'm pretty upbeat about this year. I really think Jaramillo is going to get Milton going and we'll see a 2008-like year out of him. Redemption time, baby! The best part? Not more Fontenot!
With an ace like Peavy, it's a championship waiting to happen!
I'm looking forward to a career year from leadoff hitter Brian Roberts myself.
The heart of this team is still center fielder Carlos Beltran.
Quote from: Weebs on February 17, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Moises Alou was on Baseball Tonight and he said Starlin Castro is going to be a star. I believe in Moises.
Just don't shake his hand.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Weebs on February 17, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Moises Alou was on Baseball Tonight and he said Starlin Castro is going to be a star. I believe in Moises.
Just don't shake his hand.
But what of Slezak?
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Weebs on February 17, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Moises Alou was on Baseball Tonight and he said Starlin Castro is going to be a star. I believe in Moises.
Just don't shake his hand.
But what of Slezak?
She probably would shake Moises' hand.
BTW, what is up with this Year 1 marketing campaign for the Cubs? I'm seeing it all over the Tribune website.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 11:47:34 AM
BTW, what is up with this Year 1 marketing campaign for the Cubs? I'm seeing it all over the Tribune website.
I believe it started last year when the interim owner instituted Year Zero.
(http://www.michaelgormley.com/asia/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/PolPot.JPG)
Quote from: Jon on February 18, 2010, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 11:47:34 AM
BTW, what is up with this Year 1 marketing campaign for the Cubs? I'm seeing it all over the Tribune website.
I believe it started last year when the interim owner instituted Year Zero.
(http://www.michaelgormley.com/asia/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/PolPot.JPG)
Intrepid Reader:
Oleg:
*swoon*
I'd swoon, but I wear glasses.
More on Lilly from Sullivan. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/cubs-lilly-to-have-knee-examined.html)
Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune reports that left-hander Ted Lilly will get an MRI on his right knee.
Lilly was already working his way back from arthroscopic surgery on his throwing shoulder, so this latest development is worrisome. Lilly had cartilage removed from his left knee last July, however manager Lou Pinella announced that the veteran southpaw began feeling pain in his right knee over the past few days. Stay tuned.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 18, 2010, 03:02:24 PM
More on Lilly from Sullivan. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/cubs-lilly-to-have-knee-examined.html)
Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune reports that left-hander Ted Lilly will get an MRI on his right knee.
Lilly was already working his way back from arthroscopic surgery on his throwing shoulder, so this latest development is worrisome. Lilly had cartilage removed from his left knee last July, however manager Lou Pinella announced that the veteran southpaw began feeling pain in his right knee over the past few days. Stay tuned.
Yay!
Silva will save us dude.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 18, 2010, 03:02:24 PM
More on Lilly from Sullivan. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/cubs-lilly-to-have-knee-examined.html)
Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune reports that left-hander Ted Lilly will get an MRI on his right knee.
Lilly was already working his way back from arthroscopic surgery on his throwing shoulder, so this latest development is worrisome. Lilly had cartilage removed from his left knee last July, however manager Lou Pinella announced that the veteran southpaw began feeling pain in his right knee over the past few days. Stay tuned.
No mention of how much gas he put in his tank?
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Weebs on February 17, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Moises Alou was on Baseball Tonight and he said Starlin Castro is going to be a star. I believe in Moises.
Just don't shake his hand.
But what of Slezak?
What's the story with this? Fork and Slezak are facebook buddies now?
Quote from: Slack-E on February 18, 2010, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Weebs on February 17, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Moises Alou was on Baseball Tonight and he said Starlin Castro is going to be a star. I believe in Moises.
Just don't shake his hand.
But what of Slezak?
What's the story with this? Fork and Slezak are facebook buddies now?
Dolan and Kerm recently became Facebook pals with Bruce Miles, IIRC.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 18, 2010, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 18, 2010, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Weebs on February 17, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Moises Alou was on Baseball Tonight and he said Starlin Castro is going to be a star. I believe in Moises.
Just don't shake his hand.
But what of Slezak?
What's the story with this? Fork and Slezak are facebook buddies now?
Dolan and Kerm recently became Facebook pals with Bruce Miles, IIRC.
Facebook SELLOUTS, you mean.
Another sure sign of spring...Dusty's first stupid comment of the year.
From this (http://cnati.com/blogs/ctrent/2010/02/dusty-baker-21810.php).
"It's like a lot of the Japanese pitchers, they don't have arm problems until they come here and they quit throwing so much."
Quote from: Slack-E on February 18, 2010, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 17, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Weebs on February 17, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Moises Alou was on Baseball Tonight and he said Starlin Castro is going to be a star. I believe in Moises.
Just don't shake his hand.
But what of Slezak?
What's the story with this? Fork and Slezak are facebook buddies now?
(shrugs, turns away in shame)
Quote from: Bonk on February 18, 2010, 11:05:51 PM
Another sure sign of spring...Dusty's first stupid comment of the year.
From this (http://cnati.com/blogs/ctrent/2010/02/dusty-baker-21810.php).
"It's like a lot of the Japanese pitchers, they don't have arm problems until they come here and they quit throwing so much."
Wat?
Quote from: Bonk on February 18, 2010, 11:05:51 PM
Another sure sign of spring...Dusty's first stupid comment of the year.
From this (http://cnati.com/blogs/ctrent/2010/02/dusty-baker-21810.php).
"It's like a lot of the Japanese pitchers, they don't have arm problems until they come here and they quit throwing so much."
How do you say "Tommy John surgery" in Spanish?
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 19, 2010, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: Bonk on February 18, 2010, 11:05:51 PM
Another sure sign of spring...Dusty's first stupid comment of the year.
From this (http://cnati.com/blogs/ctrent/2010/02/dusty-baker-21810.php).
"It's like a lot of the Japanese pitchers, they don't have arm problems until they come here and they quit throwing so much."
How do you say "Tommy John surgery" in Spanish?
El sugerio de Tomas Juan.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 19, 2010, 09:52:21 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 19, 2010, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: Bonk on February 18, 2010, 11:05:51 PM
Another sure sign of spring...Dusty's first stupid comment of the year.
From this (http://cnati.com/blogs/ctrent/2010/02/dusty-baker-21810.php).
"It's like a lot of the Japanese pitchers, they don't have arm problems until they come here and they quit throwing so much."
How do you say "Tommy John surgery" in Spanish?
El sugerio de Tomas Juan.
Cool. Thanks.
I think the Cubs are going to be a good team this year.
Gordo reports. (http://twitter.com/cst_cubs/status/9344726496)
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Quote
Great news. Lilly is working his way back from arthroscopic shoulder surgery and is likely to miss the first few weeks of the season anyway, but a bum knee would have no doubt prolonged his recovery.
Phantom knee pain is great news?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 19, 2010, 01:02:55 PM
Phantom knee pain is great news?
Or inflamed and not torn is better than torn.
This Ryan Theriot shit is making me hate him more than before. At this point there is almost nothing he can do on the baseball field that will make me stop wishing for him to fall into a pit of regurgitated corned beef hash.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 19, 2010, 03:29:25 PM
This Ryan Theriot shit is making me hate him more than before. At this point there is almost nothing he can do on the baseball field that will make me stop wishing for him to fall into a pit of regurgitated corned beef hash.
After that story in the What You Crappin' thread, I defer to you in all matters of digestion...
I submit the guarantee the Cubs won today's arbitration hearing with Theriot if someone just walked into the room, dramatically slammed down a one page printout of the similarity scores for Theriot from Baseball Reference and said, "His number eight closest comparable is Aaron Miles! I rest my case!"
Then, again, that would mean somebody on the Cubs knows what Baseball Reference is, or what a printer does.
Quote from: Andy on February 19, 2010, 03:39:28 PM
I submit the guarantee the Cubs won today's arbitration hearing with Theriot if someone just walked into the room, dramatically slammed down a one page printout of the similarity scores for Theriot from Baseball Reference and said, "His number eight closest comparable is Aaron Miles! I rest my case!"
Then, again, that would mean somebody on the Cubs knows what Baseball Reference is, or what a printer does.
I have a horrible suspicion that anyone on the Cubs' staff that was given that sheet to deliver would somehow manage to accidentally swallow it.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 19, 2010, 03:29:25 PM
This Ryan Theriot shit is making me hate him more than before. At this point there is almost nothing he can do on the baseball field that will make me stop wishing for him to fall into a pit of regurgitated corned beef hash.
Am I missing something? You hate him for going to arbitration? I don't like Theriot at all, but I think it's
pretty awesome he's willing to double down on $400,000 (assuming the Cubs offered him the midpoint).
And I think it's total bullshit that the Cubs are crying about a player going to arbitration. Given that the
owners have spent most of the last 100+ years colluding against the players, I'm happy to see a player
stick to his guns (likely literally plastic toys with red tips in this case) and take advantage of the collective
bargaining agreement that the owners signed on for.
If I could go to arbitration for my job, I sure as hell would.
Quote from: Andy on February 19, 2010, 03:39:28 PM
I submit the guarantee the Cubs won today's arbitration hearing with Theriot if someone just walked into the room, dramatically slammed down a one page printout of the similarity scores for Theriot from Baseball Reference and said, "His number eight closest comparable is Aaron Miles! I rest my case!"
Then, again, that would mean somebody on the Cubs knows what Baseball Reference is, or what a printer does.
(http://www.ibiblio.org/orphanage/gallery/training/linotype.jpg)
Quote from: Andy on February 19, 2010, 03:39:28 PM
I submit the guarantee the Cubs won today's arbitration hearing with Theriot if someone just walked into the room, dramatically slammed down a one page printout of the similarity scores for Theriot from Baseball Reference and said, "His number eight closest comparable is Aaron Miles! I rest my case!"
Works well until Theriot's agent counters with HoFer Phil Rizzuto as #7 similar through age 29
and then we somehow get stuck with him for 7 years / 111 million.
Rizzuto better have had one hell of a glove (I'm kidding, every Yankee gets to be in the HoF),
because his best hitting attribute was sacrifices.
Quote from: Pre on February 19, 2010, 04:13:30 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 19, 2010, 03:39:28 PM
I submit the guarantee the Cubs won today's arbitration hearing with Theriot if someone just walked into the room, dramatically slammed down a one page printout of the similarity scores for Theriot from Baseball Reference and said, "His number eight closest comparable is Aaron Miles! I rest my case!"
Works well until Theriot's agent counters with HoFer Phil Rizzuto as #7 similar through age 29
and then we somehow get stuck with him for 7 years / 111 million.
Rizzuto better have had one hell of a glove (I'm kidding, every Yankee gets to be in the HoF),
because his best hitting attribute was sacrifices.
It was surprisingly small, actually:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/1912500249_c8a1208bc9.jpg?v=0)
Quote from: Pre on February 19, 2010, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 19, 2010, 03:29:25 PM
This Ryan Theriot shit is making me hate him more than before. At this point there is almost nothing he can do on the baseball field that will make me stop wishing for him to fall into a pit of regurgitated corned beef hash.
Am I missing something? You hate him for going to arbitration? I don't like Theriot at all, but I think it's
pretty awesome he's willing to double down on $400,000 (assuming the Cubs offered him the midpoint).
And I think it's total bullshit that the Cubs are crying about a player going to arbitration. Given that the
owners have spent most of the last 100+ years colluding against the players, I'm happy to see a player
stick to his guns (likely literally plastic toys with red tips in this case) and take advantage of the collective
bargaining agreement that the owners signed on for.
If I could go to arbitration for my job, I sure as hell would.
Get 30 percent of your co-workers to sign a petition, and we'll come out and do the election.
Quote from: Pre on February 19, 2010, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 19, 2010, 03:29:25 PM
This Ryan Theriot shit is making me hate him more than before. At this point there is almost nothing he can do on the baseball field that will make me stop wishing for him to fall into a pit of regurgitated corned beef hash.
Am I missing something? You hate him for going to arbitration? I don't like Theriot at all, but I think it's
pretty awesome he's willing to double down on $400,000 (assuming the Cubs offered him the midpoint).
And I think it's total bullshit that the Cubs are crying about a player going to arbitration. Given that the
owners have spent most of the last 100+ years colluding against the players, I'm happy to see a player
stick to his guns (likely literally plastic toys with red tips in this case) and take advantage of the collective
bargaining agreement that the owners signed on for.
If I could go to arbitration for my job, I sure as hell would.
You're missing the part where you don't overanalyze irrational hatred.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 19, 2010, 11:09:34 PM
You're missing the part where you don't overanalyze irrational hatred.
I think my hatred of how the Cubs do business makes me unable to understand your hatred
of the short bus.
CUbs win, Theriot loses. THIS is when Hendry learns to be frugal?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 20, 2010, 10:14:03 AM
CUbs win, Theriot loses. THIS is when Hendry learns to be frugal?
So now he's supposed to be frugal, Chuck?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 20, 2010, 10:14:03 AM
CUbs win, Theriot loses. THIS is when Hendry learns to be frugal?
What will this do to their father/son relationship? THERIOT WILL POISON THE CLUBHOUSE
Quote from: Pre on February 20, 2010, 09:10:32 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 19, 2010, 11:09:34 PM
You're missing the part where you don't overanalyze irrational hatred.
I think my hatred of how the Cubs do business makes me unable to understand your hatred
of the short bus.
Can't we hate them both? You have a point. Siding with the Cubs is like siding with my company over one of my fellow workers.
I just hate Theriot. And he lost. So he can eat a wiener.
Quote from: MAD on February 20, 2010, 10:20:17 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 20, 2010, 10:14:03 AM
CUbs win, Theriot loses. THIS is when Hendry learns to be frugal?
So now he's supposed to be frugal, Chuck?
I don't understand this Chuckplaint at all either.
Is he pissed that the Cubs are pinching pennies over the irreplaceable Ryan Theriot?
Kiko Calero sign yet?
I do not want Starlin Castro on the opening day roster. Give the young buck some time to marinate.
Quote from: R-V on February 21, 2010, 10:32:06 AM
Kiko Calero sign yet?
I do not want Starlin Castro on the opening day roster. Give the young buck some time to marinate.
Why must you constantly mention marinating young bucks?
Quote from: Jon on February 21, 2010, 11:36:11 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 21, 2010, 10:32:06 AM
Kiko Calero sign yet?
I do not want Starlin Castro on the opening day roster. Give the young buck some time to marinate.
Why must you constantly mention marinating young bucks?
Have you ever had unmarinated young buck? It just isn't the same.
This thread is making me hungry.
Quote from: CT III on February 21, 2010, 11:52:13 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 21, 2010, 11:36:11 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 21, 2010, 10:32:06 AM
Kiko Calero sign yet?
I do not want Starlin Castro on the opening day roster. Give the young buck some time to marinate.
Why must you constantly mention marinating young bucks?
Have you ever had unmarinated young buck? It just isn't the same.
And don't even get me started on unmarinated old buck. Tastes like a pleather fanny pack.
(http://bojack.org/images/buckwms.jpg)
Sounds like On-Hoops Guzman had a fun offseason. Christ.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100220&content_id=8103944&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Quote from: Slack-E on February 21, 2010, 04:10:29 PM
Sounds like On-Hoops Guzman had a fun offseason. Christ.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100220&content_id=8103944&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
QuoteMESA, Ariz. -- Angel Guzman was sleeping. He was in Venezuela to visit family, and his brother Daniel nudged him awake to tell him he was going to leave with two of their friends.
The brothers always said, "I love you," when they said goodbye, and they did it again as Daniel left the hotel room where Angel was staying in Las Mercedes, located within Caracas.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 21, 2010, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 21, 2010, 04:10:29 PM
Sounds like On-Hoops Guzman had a fun offseason. Christ.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100220&content_id=8103944&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
QuoteMESA, Ariz. -- Angel Guzman was sleeping. He was in Venezuela to visit family, and his brother Daniel nudged him awake to tell him he was going to leave with two of their friends.
The brothers always said, "I love you," when they said goodbye, and they did it again as Daniel left the hotel room where Angel was staying in Las Mercedes, located within Caracas.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Carrie just couldn't resist, could she?
QuoteNow, Angel has an angel watching over him.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 21, 2010, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 21, 2010, 04:10:29 PM
Sounds like On-Hoops Guzman had a fun offseason. Christ.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100220&content_id=8103944&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
QuoteMESA, Ariz. -- Angel Guzman was sleeping. He was in Venezuela to visit family, and his brother Daniel nudged him awake to tell him he was going to leave with two of their friends.
The brothers always said, "I love you," when they said goodbye, and they did it again as Daniel left the hotel room where Angel was staying in Las Mercedes, located within Caracas.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Brothers don't shake hands...
Quote from: Slack-E on February 21, 2010, 05:22:33 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 21, 2010, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 21, 2010, 04:10:29 PM
Sounds like On-Hoops Guzman had a fun offseason. Christ.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100220&content_id=8103944&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
QuoteMESA, Ariz. -- Angel Guzman was sleeping. He was in Venezuela to visit family, and his brother Daniel nudged him awake to tell him he was going to leave with two of their friends.
The brothers always said, "I love you," when they said goodbye, and they did it again as Daniel left the hotel room where Angel was staying in Las Mercedes, located within Caracas.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Brothers don't shake hands...
Brothers gotta
hug die in each other's arms.
Quote from: R-V on February 21, 2010, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 21, 2010, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 21, 2010, 04:10:29 PM
Sounds like On-Hoops Guzman had a fun offseason. Christ.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100220&content_id=8103944&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
QuoteMESA, Ariz. -- Angel Guzman was sleeping. He was in Venezuela to visit family, and his brother Daniel nudged him awake to tell him he was going to leave with two of their friends.
The brothers always said, "I love you," when they said goodbye, and they did it again as Daniel left the hotel room where Angel was staying in Las Mercedes, located within Caracas.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Carrie just couldn't resist, could she?
QuoteNow, Angel has an angel watching over him.
Angel Pagan is jealous.
I hope he avoids (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/cubs-gone-wild-randy-wells-edition.html) the befouled Gregg Specs and goes with the Gooz Goggles.
QuoteAfter reporting to camp, Wells took an eye exam and discovered he needed glasses.
"I look like a dork, actually," he said Monday morning at rainy Fitch Park. "I don't know. We'll see. I haven't got my baseball glasses yet. I think I picked out some cool ones -- some Ricky Vaughn 'Wild Thing' glasses."
"It's kind of cool, though, that after all these years I find out I was blind," he said with a laugh. "Now I can see a little bit, so I'm excited to see what happens."
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
I find myself slowly drifting in this direction.
Just win a fucking pennant already, assholes.
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
Wow! You Californians. I tried surfing once and kept falling off the board. I can't imagine watching tv at the same time! Must be battery operated because most tvs don't come with cords that long.
Quote from: CBStew on February 22, 2010, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
Wow! You Californians. I tried surfing once and kept falling off the board. I can't imagine watching tv at the same time! Must be battery operated because most tvs don't come with cords that long.
Damnit, I just pictured you on a surfboard and cracked up. How do I explain THAT to co-workers?
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
I find myself slowly drifting in this direction.
Just win a fucking pennant already, assholes.
How many games do you have to watch to retain car-flipping/tire-burning privileges in the event they DO win, Huebiter?
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
I find myself slowly drifting in this direction.
Just win a fucking pennant already, assholes.
Thirded.
When the topic of saving a little more came up about a month or so ago, my yearly baseball package purchase was the first suggestion out of my mouth. I've got too many other things to do to spend time being frustrated about a team of millionaires disappointing me year after year.
Too good not to share...
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That guy is a fucking idiot....
Quote5. Should the Cubs bring Sammy Sosa back as hitting coach?
This is probably the toughest question facing the Cubs this spring.
Toughest question in the sense that they never even fucking asked it.
Quote from: Yeti on February 22, 2010, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 22, 2010, 12:11:55 PM
Too good not to share...
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That guy is a fucking idiot....
Quote5. Should the Cubs bring Sammy Sosa back as hitting coach?
This is probably the toughest question facing the Cubs this spring.
Toughest question in the sense that they never even fucking asked it.
I'm pretty sure that's tongue firmly planted in cheek.
"Should the Cubs bring Sammy Sosa back as hitting coach?
This is probably the toughest question facing the Cubs this spring. The team just signed Rudy Jaramillo to a three-year deal. He's considered the top hitting coach in the majors, but it's tempting to bring Sammy back.
In a sense, of course, he's damaged goods. Everybody but Tony La Russa suspects that Sammy did steroids. Tony thinks he did a lot of pushups.
But Cubs have been watching what has been going on with the Cardinals, and the new thinking is that Sammy could come back and make a quasi-apology: "Yes, I did steroids, but I only did them because there wasn't any drug testing and I didn't think I'd get caught. Furthermore, the steroids didn't help me hit home runs. They only helped me get healthy and stay healthy."
Admittedly, this would be a strange message to send to kids. Especially the part about steroids helping you get healthy and stay healthy. "Think of them as vitamins, kids! Have you had your human growth hormone today?"
But as long as that message seems to be working for the Cardinals in Florida, why not try it with the Cubs in Arizona?
After all, if steroids don't help a person hit home runs, Sammy has to be considered the greatest home run hitter of all time. He was the only player to hit more than 60 home runs in a season three times.
However, even if we overlook the steroids, we have another delicate situation. Namely, Sammy has changed color.
He showed up at the Latin Grammys in Las Vegas in November, and he was no longer the Sammy that most of us remember. That Sammy had black skin. The new Sammy is a much lighter model. He told reporters that a cosmetic cream he was using to soften his skin had caused the change in coloration.
Well, fine. I'm betting that White Sammy will be just as lovable as was Black Sammy.
Which is why the Cubs might want to bring him in as hitting coach. Not only would he be a great hitting coach, but he would be an ambassador for baseball.
Remember how full of joy he was in that magical 1998 season? Mark McGwire was grumpy and angry while Sammy was always deliriously happy. And it was contagious. Even the grumpy Big Mac smiled and laughed when he was around Sammy.
If the Cubs would bring Sammy back, we could relive those magical times. Whenever the Cubs and Cardinals play, the two hitting coaches could get together by the batting cage and hug and reminisce. Fans would love it. Admittedly, it wouldn't be quite the same with Medium Mac and White Sammy. But it would still be good."
Quote from: Yeti on February 22, 2010, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 22, 2010, 12:11:55 PM
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That guy is a fucking idiot....
Quote5. Should the Cubs bring Sammy Sosa back as hitting coach?
This is probably the toughest question facing the Cubs this spring.
Toughest question in the sense that they never even fucking asked it.
He's mocking the Cubs. The whole time.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 22, 2010, 12:31:26 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 22, 2010, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 22, 2010, 12:11:55 PM
Too good not to share...
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That guy is a fucking idiot....
Quote5. Should the Cubs bring Sammy Sosa back as hitting coach?
This is probably the toughest question facing the Cubs this spring.
Toughest question in the sense that they never even fucking asked it.
He's mocking the Cubs. The whole time.
Fuck me.. I guess I should have read it a little closer. I missed #4 the first time... *Face. Palm*
Quote from: Yeti on February 22, 2010, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 22, 2010, 12:11:55 PM
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That guy is a fucking idiot....
Quote5. Should the Cubs bring Sammy Sosa back as hitting coach?
This is probably the toughest question facing the Cubs this spring.
Toughest question in the sense that they never even fucking asked it.
But that's why he's here: to ask the tough questions no one else will. (http://www.google.com/search?q=satire&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
Quote from: Slack-E on February 22, 2010, 12:31:26 PM
He's mocking the Cubs. The whole time.
He's also mocking the Cardinals, although very poorly. It's like a bad Jim Caple article.
When I used to read espn.com I hated that guy so much because half the time I
clicked on a serious sounding article I would get total garbage like this article.
Is this site a joke? Like, not they're trying to be real but end up being a joke point and laugh HA-HA, but are they just being retards and having some fun? I mean, really. I NEED ANSWERS
If the Cubs bring back Sammy they could put him on the roster after Aug 31 and have him pinch hit, like McGwire for the Cards.
Quote from: R-V on February 22, 2010, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
I find myself slowly drifting in this direction.
Just win a fucking pennant already, assholes.
How many games do you have to watch to retain car-flipping/tire-burning privileges in the event they DO win, Huebiter?
I think we need to set limits on this. Something along the lines of being a Scrubs fan for a minimum of 10 years. Of course there'd have to be a rules committee voteon for guidelines. I'd say if you've watched over like 500-1000 games of these losers you retain the rights, even if you haven't watched a game in said winning season. I want nothing to do with the ruling body so I leave it in your capable hands.
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 22, 2010, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
I find myself slowly drifting in this direction.
Just win a fucking pennant already, assholes.
How many games do you have to watch to retain car-flipping/tire-burning privileges in the event they DO win, Huebiter?
I think we need to set limits on this. Something along the lines of being a Scrubs fan for a minimum of 10 years. Of course there'd have to be a rules committee voteon for guidelines. I'd say if you've watched over like 500-1000 games of these losers you retain the rights, even if you haven't watched a game in said winning season. I want nothing to do with the ruling body so I leave it in your capable hands.
10 years?
500 games?
Waaaaay too short.
It's not like you personally have been waiting since 1908, so prior futility is more of a market-wide drought than a personal one.
Anything less than 25 years of personal anguish is just part of being a fan.
After 25 years, I think you can make the internal shift to "wake me when you fuckers stop sucking."
Quote from: PenFoe on February 22, 2010, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 22, 2010, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
I find myself slowly drifting in this direction.
Just win a fucking pennant already, assholes.
How many games do you have to watch to retain car-flipping/tire-burning privileges in the event they DO win, Huebiter?
I think we need to set limits on this. Something along the lines of being a Scrubs fan for a minimum of 10 years. Of course there'd have to be a rules committee voteon for guidelines. I'd say if you've watched over like 500-1000 games of these losers you retain the rights, even if you haven't watched a game in said winning season. I want nothing to do with the ruling body so I leave it in your capable hands.
10 years?
500 games?
Waaaaay too short.
It's not like you personally have been waiting since 1908, so prior futility is more of a market-wide drought than a personal one.
Anything less than 25 years of personal anguish is just part of being a fan.
After 25 years, I think you can make the internal shift to "wake me when you fuckers stop sucking."
Good. I'm in for 31, so I won't have to feel like an ingrate if I tune out until later this year, if they warrant it. And I reserve the right to still display passion in say, wanting Ryan Dempster to die in a car fire.
In the meantime, I'm putting my energy into a Stanley Cup run for the Hawks.
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 22, 2010, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
I find myself slowly drifting in this direction.
Just win a fucking pennant already, assholes.
How many games do you have to watch to retain car-flipping/tire-burning privileges in the event they DO win, Huebiter?
I think we need to set limits on this. Something along the lines of being a Scrubs fan for a minimum of 10 years. Of course there'd have to be a rules committee voteon for guidelines. I'd say if you've watched over like 500-1000 games of these losers you retain the rights, even if you haven't watched a game in said winning season. I want nothing to do with the ruling body so I leave it in your capable hands.
What qualifies as a game? 4.6 innings? Because I sometimes might not be able to watch until the 6th-7th inning, but I still call that watching a game. Or on the flipside, I might be able to watch the first couple innings, and then I have to leave, listen on the radio for a bit, and THEN follow it on my phone...
I need answers.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 22, 2010, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 22, 2010, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Does it make me bad that after that '08 choke in the playoffs that I decided I'm not going to really watch the Cubs til I see they actually made a World Series? I have a wife and 8-month old and thought for sure they'd at least make it in '08. I just don't have the time/patience to dedicate the ridiculous amounts of time to these losers like I used to. I think I may have watched all of 20 innings all last season when surfing. Now after they make it to the series, if that ever happens in my lifetime, I'll get back to watching. Just not putting any more stock in this team til they can make it over the hump for once.
I find myself slowly drifting in this direction.
Just win a fucking pennant already, assholes.
How many games do you have to watch to retain car-flipping/tire-burning privileges in the event they DO win, Huebiter?
I think we need to set limits on this. Something along the lines of being a Scrubs fan for a minimum of 10 years. Of course there'd have to be a rules committee voteon for guidelines. I'd say if you've watched over like 500-1000 games of these losers you retain the rights, even if you haven't watched a game in said winning season. I want nothing to do with the ruling body so I leave it in your capable hands.
10 years?
500 games?
Waaaaay too short.
It's not like you personally have been waiting since 1908, so prior futility is more of a market-wide drought than a personal one.
Anything less than 25 years of personal anguish is just part of being a fan.
After 25 years, I think you can make the internal shift to "wake me when you fuckers stop sucking."
That's about the way I look at it. I'm 21 years old. The way I see it, my life as a Cub fan hasn't been any more painful than most other fanbases, and I sure as hell have had it better than Pirates/Reds/Brewers/Orioles/Royals/Rangers/Nationals fans of the same age. I don't have the "I've seen it TOO MANY TIMES" excuse. Sack up and watch the games, or just accept that it's pointless to get that worked up over any sport at all, but don't come back crying when they do win the fucking thing.
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
That's about the way I look at it. I'm 21 years old. The way I see it, my life as a Cub fan hasn't been any more painful than most other fanbases, and I sure as hell have had it better than Pirates/Reds/Brewers/Orioles/Royals/Rangers/Nationals fans of the same age. I don't have the "I've seen it TOO MANY TIMES" excuse. Sack up and watch the games, or just accept that it's pointless to get that worked up over any sport at all, but don't come back crying when they do win the fucking thing.
I'll give you the Rangers. Hell, Bush was their owner. But the rest?
The Nats don't count - too new.
The Brewers were in the World Series 28 years ago (yes, just outside your age, but not by a huge margin).
The Reds won in 1988.
The Royals won in 1985.
The Orioles won in 1983.
The Pirates won in 1979.
These teams have had success in recent history.
Like, since the television was invented.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 22, 2010, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
That's about the way I look at it. I'm 21 years old. The way I see it, my life as a Cub fan hasn't been any more painful than most other fanbases, and I sure as hell have had it better than Pirates/Reds/Brewers/Orioles/Royals/Rangers/Nationals fans of the same age. I don't have the "I've seen it TOO MANY TIMES" excuse. Sack up and watch the games, or just accept that it's pointless to get that worked up over any sport at all, but don't come back crying when they do win the fucking thing.
I'll give you the Rangers. Hell, Bush was their owner. But the rest?
The Nats don't count - too new.
The Brewers were in the World Series 28 years ago (yes, just outside your age, but not by a huge margin).
The Reds won in 1988.
The Royals won in 1985.
The Orioles won in 1983.
The Pirates won in 1979.
These teams have had success in recent history.
Like, since the television was invented.
All of these before his birth, which was his point..
Quote from: Yeti on February 22, 2010, 02:23:49 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 22, 2010, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
That's about the way I look at it. I'm 21 years old. The way I see it, my life as a Cub fan hasn't been any more painful than most other fanbases, and I sure as hell have had it better than Pirates/Reds/Brewers/Orioles/Royals/Rangers/Nationals fans of the same age. I don't have the "I've seen it TOO MANY TIMES" excuse. Sack up and watch the games, or just accept that it's pointless to get that worked up over any sport at all, but don't come back crying when they do win the fucking thing.
I'll give you the Rangers. Hell, Bush was their owner. But the rest?
The Nats don't count - too new.
The Brewers were in the World Series 28 years ago (yes, just outside your age, but not by a huge margin).
The Reds won in 1988.
The Royals won in 1985.
The Orioles won in 1983.
The Pirates won in 1979.
These teams have had success in recent history.
Like, since the television was invented.
All of these before his birth, which was his point..
Rule 10.17(c).
Quote from: Yeti on February 22, 2010, 02:23:49 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 22, 2010, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 22, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
That's about the way I look at it. I'm 21 years old. The way I see it, my life as a Cub fan hasn't been any more painful than most other fanbases, and I sure as hell have had it better than Pirates/Reds/Brewers/Orioles/Royals/Rangers/Nationals fans of the same age. I don't have the "I've seen it TOO MANY TIMES" excuse. Sack up and watch the games, or just accept that it's pointless to get that worked up over any sport at all, but don't come back crying when they do win the fucking thing.
I'll give you the Rangers. Hell, Bush was their owner. But the rest?
The Nats don't count - too new.
The Brewers were in the World Series 28 years ago (yes, just outside your age, but not by a huge margin).
The Reds won in 1988.
The Royals won in 1985.
The Orioles won in 1983.
The Pirates won in 1979.
These teams have had success in recent history.
Like, since the television was invented.
All of these before his birth, which was his point..
Actually the Reds won in 1991, when I was two, and the Dodgers in 1988. But seriously Chuck, do you actually Read anything people write, or just enjoy being so utterly wrong? Also I sort of meant the Nats/Expos franchise. Granted, I don't know that there's any Expos fans who are Nats fans or whatever, but my point is it all depends on how far back you look. If you go back 21 years, or actually about 16 since I didn't start actively watching baseball until I was 5 (the first thing I really remember is Rick Wilkin's badass 1993 season), you realize there are worse franchises I could have spent time rooting for. And just "knowing" that my team won a championship within the last couple decades doesn't help. In my mind the Bears are as bad as the Cubs, because the 85 Bears or even the rest of the Ditka Bears don't mean shit to me. I remember Wannstedt-Lovie.
I've been Cub fan since the early 80s. After all of this time, investment, and heartbreak I can't see myself not watching the Cubs. It's a part of my sports fan life. As usual I'm all in with these guys as they start a new season with the hopes of getting over the hump someday.
Reds won in 1990 but SKO's point remains...
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 22, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
I've been Cub fan since the early 80s. After all of this time, investment, and heartbreak I can't see myself not watching the Cubs. It's a part of my sports fan life. As usual I'm all in with these guys as they start a new season with the hopes of getting over the hump someday.
Yeah, I'm going to need something other than ice soccer to occupy my spare brain capacity after Purdue hoists its first-ever NCAA Men's Basketball Championship trophy in Indianapolis this April. I think since the Cubs play right down the street from me, I'll take in a game or several dozen.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 22, 2010, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 22, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
I've been Cub fan since the early 80s. After all of this time, investment, and heartbreak I can't see myself not watching the Cubs. It's a part of my sports fan life. As usual I'm all in with these guys as they start a new season with the hopes of getting over the hump someday.
Yeah, I'm going to need something other than ice soccer to occupy my spare brain capacity after Purdue hoists its first-ever NCAA Men's Basketball Championship trophy in Indianapolis this April. I think since the Cubs play right down the street from me, I'll take in a game or several dozen.
You know who to contact if you're looking to purchase any decent tickets at face...
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 22, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
I've been Cub fan since the early 80s. After all of this time, investment, and heartbreak I can't see myself not watching the Cubs. It's a part of my sports fan life. As usual I'm all in with these guys as they start a new season with the hopes of getting over the hump someday.
I'm with you. I'm going to be as annoyed as ever with them, but I know I'll watch.
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 22, 2010, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 22, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
I've been Cub fan since the early 80s. After all of this time, investment, and heartbreak I can't see myself not watching the Cubs. It's a part of my sports fan life. As usual I'm all in with these guys as they start a new season with the hopes of getting over the hump someday.
Yeah, I'm going to need something other than ice soccer to occupy my spare brain capacity after Purdue hoists its first-ever NCAA Men's Basketball Championship trophy in Indianapolis this April. I think since the Cubs play right down the street from me, I'll take in a game or several dozen.
You know who to contact if you're looking to purchase any decent tickets at face...
Weebs' brother?
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 22, 2010, 02:42:20 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 22, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 22, 2010, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 22, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
I've been Cub fan since the early 80s. After all of this time, investment, and heartbreak I can't see myself not watching the Cubs. It's a part of my sports fan life. As usual I'm all in with these guys as they start a new season with the hopes of getting over the hump someday.
Yeah, I'm going to need something other than ice soccer to occupy my spare brain capacity after Purdue hoists its first-ever NCAA Men's Basketball Championship trophy in Indianapolis this April. I think since the Cubs play right down the street from me, I'll take in a game or several dozen.
You know who to contact if you're looking to purchase any decent tickets at face...
Weebs' brother?
At face?
Surely you jest.
rotoworld.
"Alfonso Soriano said Monday that his surgically-repaired left knee is "maybe 80 percent or 85 percent" strength, according to a Chicago Sun-Times story.
As if that wasn't enough to arouse a bit of concern, Soriano continued: "Mentally I don't feel 100 percent. But we'll see in how my knee is running in the field and doing some stuff I didn't do in the Dominican." Soriano hit just .241 with 20 homers last season for the Cubs, but reuniting with hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo had some hoping for a resurgence. Keep tabs on Soriano's status as your draft day approaches.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times "
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 22, 2010, 02:41:15 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 22, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
I've been Cub fan since the early 80s. After all of this time, investment, and heartbreak I can't see myself not watching the Cubs. It's a part of my sports fan life. As usual I'm all in with these guys as they start a new season with the hopes of getting over the hump someday.
I'm with you. I'm going to be as annoyed as ever with them, but I know I'll watch.
Well, you need to have something to talk about with your new best friends Paul and Bruce.
It can't be
all awkward silences.
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
"Mentally I don't feel 100 percent."
That's a weird thing to admit after an offseason of rest.
Quote from: Eli on February 22, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
"Mentally I don't feel 100 percent."
That's a weird thing to admit after an offseason of rest.
Maybe he was speaking in the absolute present. He wasn't at 100% that second because he just lost a game of Madden. Or his insanely elaborately decorated Hummer blew a speaker. Something like that.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 22, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 22, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
"Mentally I don't feel 100 percent."
That's a weird thing to admit after an offseason of rest.
Maybe he was speaking in the absolute present. He wasn't at 100% that second because he just lost a game of Madden. Or his insanely elaborately decorated Hummer blew a speaker. Something like that.
Maybe he's just saying he's stupid.
Well I can live with minimum of 20 or 25, just didn't want to exclude too many. I'm 37 and have been a fan since 4. So had way too much disappointment. MAD, I was also thinking as I typed this "Thank god the Hawks are kicking ass now".
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 22, 2010, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 22, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 22, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
"Mentally I don't feel 100 percent."
That's a weird thing to admit after an offseason of rest.
Maybe he was speaking in the absolute present. He wasn't at 100% that second because he just lost a game of Madden. Or his insanely elaborately decorated Hummer blew a speaker. Something like that.
Maybe he's just saying he's stupid.
Maybe English is his second language. I'm pretty sure he meant that he thinks his knee is
around 80% strength, but that's an estimate since he hasn't been testing it fully yet so he
doesn't have a lot of empirical data right now.
Quote from: Pre on February 22, 2010, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 22, 2010, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 22, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 22, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
"Mentally I don't feel 100 percent."
That's a weird thing to admit after an offseason of rest.
Maybe he was speaking in the absolute present. He wasn't at 100% that second because he just lost a game of Madden. Or his insanely elaborately decorated Hummer blew a speaker. Something like that.
Maybe he's just saying he's stupid.
Maybe English is his second language. I'm pretty sure he meant that he thinks his knee is
around 80% strength, but that's an estimate since he hasn't been testing it fully yet so he
doesn't have a lot of empirical data right now.
Since he already said "surgically-repaired left knee is "maybe 80 percent or 85 percent" strength", he's really driving home the point that his knee isn't 100%? Perhaps.
Quote from: Pre on February 22, 2010, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 22, 2010, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 22, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 22, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
"Mentally I don't feel 100 percent."
That's a weird thing to admit after an offseason of rest.
Maybe he was speaking in the absolute present. He wasn't at 100% that second because he just lost a game of Madden. Or his insanely elaborately decorated Hummer blew a speaker. Something like that.
Maybe he's just saying he's stupid.
Maybe English is his second language. I'm pretty sure he meant that he thinks his knee is
around 80% strength, but that's an estimate since he hasn't been testing it fully yet so he
doesn't have a lot of empirical data right now.
Can't it be both?
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 22, 2010, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 22, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 22, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
"Mentally I don't feel 100 percent."
That's a weird thing to admit after an offseason of rest.
Maybe he was speaking in the absolute present. He wasn't at 100% that second because he just lost a game of Madden. Or his insanely elaborately decorated Hummer blew a speaker. Something like that.
Maybe he's just saying he's stupid.
I don't think he realizes that is exactly what he was saying.
"You should'a seen the Atlantic Ocean back in those days. It was some ocean."
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
rotoworld.
"Alfonso Soriano said Monday that his surgically-repaired left knee is "maybe 80 percent or 85 percent" strength, according to a Chicago Sun-Times story.
As if that wasn't enough to arouse a bit of concern, Soriano continued: "Mentally I don't feel 100 percent. But we'll see in how my knee is running in the field and doing some stuff I didn't do in the Dominican." Soriano hit just .241 with 20 homers last season for the Cubs, but reuniting with hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo had some hoping for a resurgence. Keep tabs on Soriano's status as your draft day approaches.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times "
Well, fuck.
Seems pretty obvious that he's saying he's trying to say not only does his knee still hurt, but that mentally he doesn't have much confidence in it.
I guess he'll just have to DH for the Cubs most of the season.
Oh, wait...
Quote from: Andy on February 22, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
Seems pretty obvious that he's saying he's trying to say not only does his knee still hurt, but that mentally he doesn't have much confidence in it.
I guess he'll just have to DH for the Cubs most of the season.
Oh, wait...
I just think he's trying to get out of some Spring Training drills and the stuck eyelid thing has already been used before.
Quote from: Andy on February 22, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
Seems pretty obvious that he's saying he's trying to say not only does his knee still hurt, but that mentally he doesn't have much confidence in it.
I guess he'll just have to DH for the Cubs most of the season.
Oh, wait...
If Soriano starts 9 games for the Cubs this year, I'd be cool with that.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 22, 2010, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 22, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
Seems pretty obvious that he's saying he's trying to say not only does his knee still hurt, but that mentally he doesn't have much confidence in it.
I guess he'll just have to DH for the Cubs most of the season.
Oh, wait...
If Soriano starts 9 games for the Cubs this year, I'd be cool with that.
That makes sense. Thanks for your opinion.
Nice choice, Jim. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/02/22/1492953/florida-marlins-pitcher-jose-cedas.html)
"Jose Ceda brought a painful secret with him when he showed up to spring training last season with the Marlins, fresh off a trade from the Chicago Cubs. Ceda -- unbeknown by the Marlins until Sunday -- had shot his best friend with a handgun in the Dominican Republic.
The friend survived, and the shooting was ruled an accident, according to the 23-year-old pitcher and his agent, Paul Kinzer. Details of the shooting are fuzzy.
But Ceda was scarred emotionally. "
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 04:51:24 PM
Nice choice, Jim. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/02/22/1492953/florida-marlins-pitcher-jose-cedas.html)
"Jose Ceda brought a painful secret with him when he showed up to spring training last season with the Marlins, fresh off a trade from the Chicago Cubs. Ceda -- unbeknown by the Marlins until Sunday -- had shot his best friend with a handgun in the Dominican Republic.
The friend survived, and the shooting was ruled an accident, according to the 23-year-old pitcher and his agent, Paul Kinzer. Details of the shooting are fuzzy.
But Ceda was scarred emotionally. "
Where's your God now, MGRW?!?
Quote from: PenFoe on February 22, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 04:51:24 PM
Nice choice, Jim. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/02/22/1492953/florida-marlins-pitcher-jose-cedas.html)
"Jose Ceda brought a painful secret with him when he showed up to spring training last season with the Marlins, fresh off a trade from the Chicago Cubs. Ceda -- unbeknown by the Marlins until Sunday -- had shot his best friend with a handgun in the Dominican Republic.
The friend survived, and the shooting was ruled an accident, according to the 23-year-old pitcher and his agent, Paul Kinzer. Details of the shooting are fuzzy.
But Ceda was scarred emotionally. "
Where's your God now, MGRW?!?
Wasn't that the turd they got in the Todd Walker deal? Nice choice, indeed.
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 22, 2010, 02:41:15 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 22, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
I've been Cub fan since the early 80s. After all of this time, investment, and heartbreak I can't see myself not watching the Cubs. It's a part of my sports fan life. As usual I'm all in with these guys as they start a new season with the hopes of getting over the hump someday.
I'm with you. I'm going to be as annoyed as ever with them, but I know I'll watch.
Yup. I think Huey's full of shit. He'll watch/listen/ANGER until they're out of contention just like the rest of us jagoffs.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 22, 2010, 05:01:22 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 22, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 04:51:24 PM
Nice choice, Jim. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/02/22/1492953/florida-marlins-pitcher-jose-cedas.html)
"Jose Ceda brought a painful secret with him when he showed up to spring training last season with the Marlins, fresh off a trade from the Chicago Cubs. Ceda -- unbeknown by the Marlins until Sunday -- had shot his best friend with a handgun in the Dominican Republic.
The friend survived, and the shooting was ruled an accident, according to the 23-year-old pitcher and his agent, Paul Kinzer. Details of the shooting are fuzzy.
But Ceda was scarred emotionally. "
Where's your God now, MGRW?!?
Wasn't that the turd they got in the Todd Walker deal? Nice choice, indeed.
Yes. Also the turd they gave up for Kevin Gregg.
And that's that turd train, beginning to end.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 22, 2010, 05:41:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 22, 2010, 05:01:22 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 22, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 04:51:24 PM
Nice choice, Jim. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/02/22/1492953/florida-marlins-pitcher-jose-cedas.html)
"Jose Ceda brought a painful secret with him when he showed up to spring training last season with the Marlins, fresh off a trade from the Chicago Cubs. Ceda -- unbeknown by the Marlins until Sunday -- had shot his best friend with a handgun in the Dominican Republic.
The friend survived, and the shooting was ruled an accident, according to the 23-year-old pitcher and his agent, Paul Kinzer. Details of the shooting are fuzzy.
But Ceda was scarred emotionally. "
Where's your God now, MGRW?!?
Wasn't that the turd they got in the Todd Walker deal? Nice choice, indeed.
Yes. Also the turd they gave up for Kevin Gregg.
And that's that turd train, beginning to end.
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2008/12/26/KQKwm7mm.jpg)
CHOOCHOO!!!
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 04:51:24 PM
The friend survived, and the shooting was ruled an accident, according to the 23-year-old pitcher and his agent, Paul Kinzer.
I'd always assumed they had courts or something to make rulings in the Dominican.
Quote from: Pre on February 22, 2010, 08:09:24 PM
Quote from: BH on February 22, 2010, 04:51:24 PM
The friend survived, and the shooting was ruled an accident, according to the 23-year-old pitcher and his agent, Paul Kinzer.
I'd always assumed they had courts or something to make rulings in the Dominican.
And yet poor Ugueth Urbina resides locked up in Venezuela. Innocent.
Derrek's friends must suck (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3500). Although he gets credit for not perpetuating the chemistry bullplop.
QuoteThe "chemistry" question just won't go away. You-know-who was subtracted, and Kevin Millar and Marlon Byrd were added. D-Lee probably summed things up best.
"I don't think that was our problem last year," Lee said of bad chemistry. "I just think we didn't play good baseball, and the injuries mounted up on us."
On Millar, D-Lee said: "He's great to be around. I had a chance to play with him in Florida. He's probably the funniest guy I know. I woke up this morning looking forward to seeing him."
Quote from: R-V on February 23, 2010, 11:24:59 AM
Derrek's friends must suck (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3500). Although he gets credit for not perpetuating the chemistry bullplop.
QuoteThe "chemistry" question just won't go away. You-know-who was subtracted, and Kevin Millar and Marlon Byrd were added. D-Lee probably summed things up best.
"I don't think that was our problem last year," Lee said of bad chemistry. "I just think we didn't play good baseball, and the injuries mounted up on us."
On Millar, D-Lee said: "He's great to be around. I had a chance to play with him in Florida. He's probably the funniest guy I know. I woke up this morning looking forward to seeing him naked."
WOT?
Are the Cubs out of contention yet?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 23, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
Are the Cubs out of contention yet?
Whoa, slow down, Tiger. It's not June yet.
Quote from: Jon on February 23, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 23, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
Are the Cubs out of contention yet?
Whoa, slow down, Tiger. It's not June yet.
IAN just wants to know when he can start making plans to watch his beloved Cardinals in the playoffs.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 23, 2010, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 23, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 23, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
Are the Cubs out of contention yet?
Whoa, slow down, Tiger. It's not June yet.
IAN just wants to know when he can start making plans to watch his beloved Cardinals in the playoffs.
Why delay the inevitable?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 23, 2010, 02:10:24 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 23, 2010, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 23, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 23, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
Are the Cubs out of contention yet?
Whoa, slow down, Tiger. It's not June yet.
IAN just wants to know when he can start making plans to watch his beloved Cardinals in the playoffs.
Why delay the inevitable?
You've seen it too many times.
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
He's a ginger. Every team needs a hapless ginger to root for.
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
Jim Hendry can eat shit.
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
I should have known my Patton update could be obtained from Carrie (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100222&content_id=8112566&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc). I still have no idea what potential we saw in David Patton last year, enough to keep him on our roster all year.
"Have you heard much regarding Rule 5 Draft pick Michael Parisi's chances of actually sticking with the club and contributing? Last year, it seemed as if Lou had his hands tied with David Patton. Also, can Patton be sent down to the Minors this year without offering him back?
-- Steve B., Marion, Iowa
Parisi's situation is different than Patton's. Parisi actually has pitched in the big leagues, appearing in 12 games in 2008 with the St. Louis Cardinals. Patton had not pitched above Class A when he was selected in the Rule 5 Draft. And yes, Patton can be sent down to the Minors now and stay with the Cubs. "
This (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/335762-10-reasons-to-get-excited-about-your-2010-chicago-cubs) is a joke right?
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 11:31:50 AM
This (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/335762-10-reasons-to-get-excited-about-your-2010-chicago-cubs) is a joke right?
Just by looking at that link address, yes. Yes, it is a joke.
Why would anyone read Bleacher Report and expect otherwise?
Or really, why would anyone read Bleacher Report at all?
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
Sadly, he wasn't at D-Day.
QuoteNear the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to acting as a decoy in Operation Quicksilver.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
Sadly, he wasn't at D-Day.
QuoteNear the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to acting as a decoy in Operation Quicksilver.
Operation Quicksilver: the Rule 5 DL stash of cross-Channel invasions.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 24, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
Sadly, he wasn't at D-Day.
QuoteNear the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to acting as a decoy in Operation Quicksilver.
Operation Quicksilver: the Rule 5 DL stash of cross-Channel invasions.
Patton
was involved in the sneak attack, though.
The Germans even thought that Normandy was a fake and kept 99 divisions up at Pas-de-Calais for weeks on end because there figured there was no way in hell that Ike would waste his best general like that.
So this SNEAK ATTACK involves forcing every other team in the NL to specifically tailor their rosters to meet the awesomeness that is Dave Patton. Then, on opening day, we hit them with Les Walrond. They'll never see it coming.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 24, 2010, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 24, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
Sadly, he wasn't at D-Day.
QuoteNear the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to acting as a decoy in Operation Quicksilver.
Operation Quicksilver: the Rule 5 DL stash of cross-Channel invasions.
Patton was involved in the sneak attack, though.
The Germans even thought that Normandy was a fake and kept 99 divisions up at Pas-de-Calais for weeks on end because there figured there was no way in hell that Ike would waste his best general like that.
So this SNEAK ATTACK involves forcing every other team in the NL to specifically tailor their rosters to meet the awesomeness that is Dave Patton. Then, on opening day, we hit them with Les Walrond. They'll never see it coming.
Awesome. I want TEC PM'd, paged, Tec-signaled or whatever anytime the subject of military history is broached. I insist.
TECSignal:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4387653514_1e39e19c6d.jpg)
Quote from: morpheus on February 25, 2010, 09:30:20 AM
TECSignal:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4387653514_1e39e19c6d.jpg)
Yes.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 24, 2010, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 24, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
Sadly, he wasn't at D-Day.
QuoteNear the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to acting as a decoy in Operation Quicksilver.
Operation Quicksilver: the Rule 5 DL stash of cross-Channel invasions.
Patton was involved in the sneak attack, though.
The Germans even thought that Normandy was a fake and kept 99 divisions up at Pas-de-Calais for weeks on end because there figured there was no way in hell that Ike would waste his best general like that.
So this SNEAK ATTACK involves forcing every other team in the NL to specifically tailor their rosters to meet the awesomeness that is Dave Patton. Then, on opening day, we hit them with Les Walrond. They'll never see it coming.
This wasn't common knowledge?
Now tell us how much of "Sergeant York" is real, as opposed to glamorized?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4387653514_1e39e19c6d.jpg)
Quick, who played Left Field for the Cubs when Paul Assenmacher picked up his first blown save in 1990? And what was the weather like that day?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4387860554_be5f315c88.jpg)
Quote from: morpheus on February 25, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
Quick, who played Left Field for the Cubs when Paul Assenmacher picked up his first blown save in 1990? And what was the weather like that day?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4387860554_be5f315c88.jpg)
I can only guess Dwight Smith or Lloyd McClendon.
If it was Dwight, and he sang the anthem before the game, then it was sunny.
Quote from: morpheus on February 25, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
Quick, who played Left Field for the Cubs when Paul Assenmacher picked up his first blown save in 1990? And what was the weather like that day?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4387860554_be5f315c88.jpg)
And how was the visibility?
(http://i49.tinypic.com/atunv8.jpg)
Quote from: MAD on February 25, 2010, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 25, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
Quick, who played Left Field for the Cubs when Paul Assenmacher picked up his first blown save in 1990? And what was the weather like that day?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4387860554_be5f315c88.jpg)
I can only guess Dwight Smith or Lloyd McClendon.
If it was Dwight, and he sang the anthem before the game, then it was sunny.
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1990/B05230CHN1990.htm
LF was patrolled by the formidable duo of Luis Salazar and Doug Dascenzo that day, my friend.
Quote from: morpheus on February 25, 2010, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 25, 2010, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 25, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
Quick, who played Left Field for the Cubs when Paul Assenmacher picked up his first blown save in 1990? And what was the weather like that day?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4387860554_be5f315c88.jpg)
I can only guess Dwight Smith or Lloyd McClendon.
If it was Dwight, and he sang the anthem before the game, then it was sunny.
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1990/B05230CHN1990.htm
LF was patrolled by the formidable duo of Luis Salazar and Doug Dascenzo that day, my friend.
Good god Smith was in
right field? Kinda surprised that clown college didn't make an error contributing to that day's demise.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 25, 2010, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: morpheus on February 25, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
Quick, who played Left Field for the Cubs when Paul Assenmacher picked up his first blown save in 1990? And what was the weather like that day?
<HuardSiugnal>
And how was the visibility?
(http://i49.tinypic.com/atunv8.jpg)
It's teh SMARMsignal!
Quote from: Yeti on February 25, 2010, 10:07:25 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 24, 2010, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 24, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
Sadly, he wasn't at D-Day.
QuoteNear the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to acting as a decoy in Operation Quicksilver.
Operation Quicksilver: the Rule 5 DL stash of cross-Channel invasions.
Patton was involved in the sneak attack, though.
The Germans even thought that Normandy was a fake and kept 99 divisions up at Pas-de-Calais for weeks on end because there figured there was no way in hell that Ike would waste his best general like that.
So this SNEAK ATTACK involves forcing every other team in the NL to specifically tailor their rosters to meet the awesomeness that is Dave Patton. Then, on opening day, we hit them with Les Walrond. They'll never see it coming.
This wasn't common knowledge?
Point taken. Here's something that isn't common knowledge.
Irish Yeti's grandfather was really ANGRY over how the newspapers treated Charles Lindbergh. So he decided to make things right by posting the details of Operation OVERLORD and and Operation QUICKSILVER in the comments section of Hitler's blog. His plans were foiled because the internet wasn't around yet.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 25, 2010, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 25, 2010, 10:07:25 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 24, 2010, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 24, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
Sadly, he wasn't at D-Day.
QuoteNear the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to acting as a decoy in Operation Quicksilver.
Operation Quicksilver: the Rule 5 DL stash of cross-Channel invasions.
Patton was involved in the sneak attack, though.
The Germans even thought that Normandy was a fake and kept 99 divisions up at Pas-de-Calais for weeks on end because there figured there was no way in hell that Ike would waste his best general like that.
So this SNEAK ATTACK involves forcing every other team in the NL to specifically tailor their rosters to meet the awesomeness that is Dave Patton. Then, on opening day, we hit them with Les Walrond. They'll never see it coming.
This wasn't common knowledge?
Point taken. Here's something that isn't common knowledge.
Irish Yeti's grandfather was really ANGRY over how the newspapers treated Charles Lindbergh. So he decided to make things right by posting the details of Operation OVERLORD and and Operation QUICKSILVER in the comments section of Hitler's blog. His plans were foiled because the internet wasn't around yet.
I was questioning the others...
But to the rest of that, bravo.
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
I prefer "Bizarro Mike Jackson".
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Careful. If Theriot goes down, they'll start Castro in the majors to satisfy the meatheads and he'll put up a .250/.298/.314 line this year and then everyone will hate him and he'll be run out of town before he's 22.
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Careful. If Theriot goes down, they'll start Castro in the majors to satisfy the meatheads and he'll put up a .250/.298/.314 line this year and then everyone will hate him and he'll be run out of town before he's 22.
Damn you, Eli. Damn you to hell.
Quote from: MAD on February 25, 2010, 01:14:03 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Careful. If Theriot goes down, they'll start Castro in the majors to satisfy the meatheads and he'll put up a .250/.298/.314 line this year and then everyone will hate him and he'll be run out of town before he's 22.
Damn you, Eli. Damn you to hell.
It's gonna hai
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Careful. If Theriot goes down, they'll start Castro in the majors to satisfy the meatheads and he'll put up a .250/.298/.314 line this year and then everyone will hate him and he'll be run out of town before he's 22.
Good. Might as well get this new failure over and done with as quick as possible.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 25, 2010, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 25, 2010, 10:07:25 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 24, 2010, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 24, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Any David Patton news? There has to be a valid reason we kept this guy on our roster last year right?
The last time a Patton was involved in a sneak attack, it looked like this:
(http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/v30.jpg)
Sadly, he wasn't at D-Day.
QuoteNear the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to acting as a decoy in Operation Quicksilver.
Operation Quicksilver: the Rule 5 DL stash of cross-Channel invasions.
Patton was involved in the sneak attack, though.
The Germans even thought that Normandy was a fake and kept 99 divisions up at Pas-de-Calais for weeks on end because there figured there was no way in hell that Ike would waste his best general like that.
So this SNEAK ATTACK involves forcing every other team in the NL to specifically tailor their rosters to meet the awesomeness that is Dave Patton. Then, on opening day, we hit them with Les Walrond. They'll never see it coming.
This wasn't common knowledge?
Point taken. Here's something that isn't common knowledge.
Irish Yeti's grandfather was really ANGRY over how the newspapers treated Charles Lindbergh. So he decided to make things right by posting the details of Operation OVERLORD and and Operation QUICKSILVER in the comments section of Hitler's blog. His plans were foiled because the internet wasn't around yet.
I forgot to give you a golf clap for this.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Careful. If Theriot goes down, they'll start Castro in the majors to satisfy the meatheads and he'll put up a .250/.298/.314 line this year and then everyone will hate him and he'll be run out of town before he's 22.
Good. Might as well get this new failure over and done with as quick as possible.
Castro has already served his purpose. He brought us the comparison to Jumpsteady, who in turn, brought us to the hilariously named Dave Bancroft. Giggles all around.
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 25, 2010, 01:14:03 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Careful. If Theriot goes down, they'll start Castro in the majors to satisfy the meatheads and he'll put up a .250/.298/.314 line this year and then everyone will hate him and he'll be run out of town before he's 22.
Damn you, Eli. Damn you to hell.
It's gonna hai
While we're on the subject of the Cubs boning Sploogelin Cumstro's future, are they really going to send him to AAA to start the year (assuming Theriot's heart doesn't fall out)? Dude spent all of a month in AA last year.
Quote from: R-V on February 25, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 25, 2010, 01:14:03 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Careful. If Theriot goes down, they'll start Castro in the majors to satisfy the meatheads and he'll put up a .250/.298/.314 line this year and then everyone will hate him and he'll be run out of town before he's 22.
Damn you, Eli. Damn you to hell.
It's gonna hai
While we're on the subject of the Cubs boning Sploogelin Cumstro's future, are they really going to send him to AAA to start the year (assuming Theriot's heart doesn't fall out)? Dude spent all of a month in AA last year.
Yes. Yes they are.
Per the Kapman:
QuoteAngel Guzman feels pain in his right shoulder. Shut down for a couple of days and then will be reevaluated. Not good news at all.
Go Cubs!
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Per the Kapman:
QuoteAngel Guzman feels pain in his right shoulder. Shut down for a couple of days and then will be reevaluated. Not good news at all.
Go Cubs!
IT'S BEEN DONE GOTTA HAI!
I quit.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Per the Kapman:
QuoteAngel Guzman feels pain in his right shoulder. Shut down for a couple of days and then will be reevaluated. Not good news at all.
Go Cubs!
After being introduced by Ed Sullivan on his radio debut, Jack Benny said, "This is Jack Benny talking. There will now be a slight pause while you say, 'Who cares?'"
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Per the Kapman:
QuoteAngel Guzman feels pain in his right shoulder. Shut down for a couple of days and then will be reevaluated. Not good news at all.
Go Cubs!
After being introduced by Ed Sullivan on his radio debut, Jack Benny said, "This is Jack Benny talking. There will now be a slight pause while you say, 'Who cares?'"
Timely, as usual.
Quote from: morpheus on February 25, 2010, 01:27:41 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 25, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 25, 2010, 01:14:03 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 25, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Ryan Theriot was just hit on the wrist by something named Dolis in batting practice. I want this Dolis. Bring him to me. I will give him whatever he needs to finish the job.
Careful. If Theriot goes down, they'll start Castro in the majors to satisfy the meatheads and he'll put up a .250/.298/.314 line this year and then everyone will hate him and he'll be run out of town before he's 22.
Damn you, Eli. Damn you to hell.
It's gonna hai
While we're on the subject of the Cubs boning Sploogelin Cumstro's future, are they really going to send him to AAA to start the year (assuming Theriot's heart doesn't fall out)? Dude spent all of a month in AA last year.
Yes. Yes they are.
Well, if he starts in Des Moines, Ryno can tell him how to PLAY THE RIGHT WAY! He'll get pointers like: "Don't make outs," and "Don't make errors," and "Don't sleep with the popular players' wives, even if she has a thing for Latins."
Quote from: Jon on February 25, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Per the Kapman:
QuoteAngel Guzman feels pain in his right shoulder. Shut down for a couple of days and then will be reevaluated. Not good news at all.
Go Cubs!
After being introduced by Ed Sullivan on his radio debut, Jack Benny said, "This is Jack Benny talking. There will now be a slight pause while you say, 'Who cares?'"
Timely, as usual.
I was making sure Stew would follow.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 25, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Per the Kapman:
QuoteAngel Guzman feels pain in his right shoulder. Shut down for a couple of days and then will be reevaluated. Not good news at all.
Go Cubs!
After being introduced by Ed Sullivan on his radio debut, Jack Benny said, "This is Jack Benny talking. There will now be a slight pause while you say, 'Who cares?'"
Timely, as usual.
I was making sure Stew would follow.
So if Stew finds your shit as unfunny as the rest of us, what then?
A good read on our ole friend Kyle
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/02/25/the-ultimate-spring-training-story/
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 25, 2010, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 25, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Per the Kapman:
QuoteAngel Guzman feels pain in his right shoulder. Shut down for a couple of days and then will be reevaluated. Not good news at all.
Go Cubs!
After being introduced by Ed Sullivan on his radio debut, Jack Benny said, "This is Jack Benny talking. There will now be a slight pause while you say, 'Who cares?'"
Timely, as usual.
I was making sure Stew would follow.
So if Stew finds your shit as unfunny as the rest of us, what then?
That's not my shit, that's Jack Benny's.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 03:22:10 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 25, 2010, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 25, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 25, 2010, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 25, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Per the Kapman:
QuoteAngel Guzman feels pain in his right shoulder. Shut down for a couple of days and then will be reevaluated. Not good news at all.
Go Cubs!
After being introduced by Ed Sullivan on his radio debut, Jack Benny said, "This is Jack Benny talking. There will now be a slight pause while you say, 'Who cares?'"
Timely, as usual.
I was making sure Stew would follow.
So if Stew finds your shit as unfunny as the rest of us, what then?
That's not my shit, that's Jack Benny's.
Sure. Blame him now that he can't deny it.
Am I the only one who completely forgot Angel Guzman was still on the team?
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on February 25, 2010, 03:28:07 PM
Am I the only one who completely forgot Angel Guzman was still on the team?
It was his brother who got shot.
Quote from: thehawk on February 25, 2010, 03:18:13 PM
A good read on our ole friend Kyle
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/02/25/the-ultimate-spring-training-story/
That article gives me hope that there is still intelligent baseball writing out there.
QuoteHow Kyle Farnsworth Makes Sense
What power arms are out there?
What power arms?
Gotta have a power arm
Need a power arm
Can't live without a power arm
Hey, Kyle Farnsworth's out there.
What do you think about Kyle's style
He throws hard
But he puts up mediocre numbers
But he throws hard
Would he come here?
Check with his people
See what they want
They say he might come here
For the right deal
What's the right deal for Kyle?
He's not really that good.
He throws hard
But he puts up mediocre numbers
But he throws hard
He wants a two-year deal
He wants more than nine mil
Seems like a lot.
But, for that, he will come here!
Kyle Farnsworth will come here!
We need a power arm
Kyle Farnsworth is a power arm
He will come here!
All we have to do is write a check
Write the check
Eli, you should hang out with this Joe Posnanski. And then stab him and take his job.
First fucking Scott Eyre, not Carlos Silva (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0225-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100224,0,2769396.story).
"On the first day pitchers and catchers reported to camp last week, manager Lou Piniella mentioned Silva needed "a little better" conditioning.
Silva disputed that Wednesday at Fitch Park.
"I always prepare myself for spring training," he said. "To be a big guy doesn't mean anything. If you are in good condition and great shape, you can do your work. For me, I can run however much they want me to run.
"That was one of the (bad) things with Seattle. Here, they want to get me back on track in my pitching. They don't worry about my size or my weight. In Seattle, they were worried more about my weight than anything else. I feel more comfortable here. Getting people out is what matters. I'm not out of shape at all. Ask the trainers.""
Quote from: BH on February 25, 2010, 03:49:40 PM
First fucking Scott Eyre, not Carlos Silva (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0225-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100224,0,2769396.story).
"On the first day pitchers and catchers reported to camp last week, manager Lou Piniella mentioned Silva needed "a little better" conditioning.
Silva disputed that Wednesday at Fitch Park.
"I always prepare myself for spring training," he said. "To be a big guy doesn't mean anything. If you are in good condition and great shape, you can do your work. For me, I can run however much they want me to run.
"That was one of the (bad) things with Seattle. Here, they want to get me back on track in my pitching. They don't worry about my size or my weight. In Seattle, they were worried more about my weight than anything else. I feel more comfortable here. Getting people out is what matters. I'm not out of shape at all. Ask the trainers.""
Why y'all hate Sea World?
Quote from: BH on February 25, 2010, 03:49:40 PM
First fucking Scott Eyre, not Carlos Silva (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0225-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100224,0,2769396.story).
"On the first day pitchers and catchers reported to camp last week, manager Lou Piniella mentioned Silva needed "a little better" conditioning.
Silva disputed that Wednesday at Fitch Park.
"I always prepare myself for spring training," he said. "To be a big guy doesn't mean anything. If you are in good condition and great shape, you can do your work. For me, I can run however much they want me to run.
"That was one of the (bad) things with Seattle. Here, they want to get me back on track in my pitching. They don't worry about my size or my weight. In Seattle, they were worried more about my weight than anything else. I feel more comfortable here. Getting people out is what matters. I'm not out of shape at all. Ask the trainers.""
Oooh, fatty's getting defensive. Hey fatty, I've got a movie for you, "A Fridge Too Far!"
Fuck you, Carlos Silva. Wrong thread? I don't care.
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
If he has a good year, then I'll be happy to eat crow. I LUV MY KUBBIEEZ!!11/ZOMG
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass.
I can't get behind this. No one will ever knock Mr. 200 Hits off this podium for me.
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Quote from: BH on February 26, 2010, 09:48:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass.
I can't get behind this. No one will ever knock Mr. 200 Hits off this podium for me.
This.
Quote from: BH on February 26, 2010, 09:48:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass.
I can't get behind this. No one will ever knock Mr. 200 Hits off this podium for me.
I had no emotional interest in the team then so it didn't happen.
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
He does his real damage on the Food Network blog.
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
I can get behind the notion that I don't have any friends outside of the interwebs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Ryne Sandberg - Manager (which I will concede he didn't have anything to do with him getting into the organization 4-5 yrs ago), Greg Maddux - Pitching Coach, Mark Grace - Hitting Coach, Turk Wendell - Bullpen Coach, Shawon Dunston - 3rd Base Coach.
I'm just looking forward to the prospects of a bleacher bum being the owner. It's gonna be great. It'll illicit all those nice feelings of what it's like to be Cubby! fan
Illicit feelings.
Quote from: Eli on February 26, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
Illicit feelings.
Fuck me in my MikeC ass. I'm retiring.
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 10:02:11 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 26, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
Illicit feelings.
Fuck me in my MikeC ass. I'm retiring.
I'm sorry. Cardinal fans don't do it for me, Benedict Yeti.
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
I can get behind the notion that I don't have any friends outside of the interwebs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Ryne Sandberg - Manager (which I will concede he didn't have anything to do with him getting into the organization 4-5 yrs ago), Greg Maddux - Pitching Coach, Mark Grace - Hitting Coach, Turk Wendell - Bullpen Coach, Shawon Dunston - 3rd Base Coach.
I'm just looking forward to the prospects of a bleacher bum being the owner. It's gonna be great. It'll illicit all those nice feelings of what it's like to be Cubby! fan
Do you think it's a bad idea to have Maddux around? Are you in on some secret Ricketts hiring plan that the rest of us don't know about?
I'm going to throw something crazy out there: it's possible to pander to dipshits by bringing donuts to people waiting in line to buy tickets and hiring some loser to "direct fan experience" WHILE AT THE SAME TIME running a successful baseball organization. Let's see how it plays out, chubs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
I can get behind the notion that I don't have any friends outside of the interwebs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Ryne Sandberg - Manager (which I will concede he didn't have anything to do with him getting into the organization 4-5 yrs ago), Greg Maddux - Pitching Coach, Mark Grace - Hitting Coach, Turk Wendell - Bullpen Coach, Shawon Dunston - 3rd Base Coach.
I'm just looking forward to the prospects of a bleacher bum being the owner. It's gonna be great. It'll illicit all those nice feelings of what it's like to be Cubby! fan
Do you think it's a bad idea to have Maddux around? Are you in on some secret Ricketts hiring plan that the rest of us don't know about?
I'm going to throw something crazy out there: it's possible to pander to dipshits by bringing donuts to people waiting in line to buy tickets and hiring some loser to "direct fan experience" WHILE AT THE SAME TIME running a successful baseball organization. Let's see how it plays out, chubs.
I'm still amazed that anyone thinks Maddux is really going to do anything meaningful while here. Even some of the hard-hearted bastards on this messageboard seem to think he's going to play a significant role with the club. I think he's going to play an assload of golf and stand behind the mound in spring training telling people things they probably need to learn eventually. But whether they get better or not depends on a lot of things taht will happen when Maddux is downing his 8th Michelob at the 19th hole of some hidden gem of a golf course that doesn't allow Mexicans.
That's really what I think.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
I can get behind the notion that I don't have any friends outside of the interwebs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Ryne Sandberg - Manager (which I will concede he didn't have anything to do with him getting into the organization 4-5 yrs ago), Greg Maddux - Pitching Coach, Mark Grace - Hitting Coach, Turk Wendell - Bullpen Coach, Shawon Dunston - 3rd Base Coach.
I'm just looking forward to the prospects of a bleacher bum being the owner. It's gonna be great. It'll illicit all those nice feelings of what it's like to be Cubby! fan
Do you think it's a bad idea to have Maddux around? Are you in on some secret Ricketts hiring plan that the rest of us don't know about?
I'm going to throw something crazy out there: it's possible to pander to dipshits by bringing donuts to people waiting in line to buy tickets and hiring some loser to "direct fan experience" WHILE AT THE SAME TIME running a successful baseball organization. Let's see how it plays out, chubs.
No, I don’t have a problem with Maddux being around. That link that you posted the other day was nice, but I also think someone pointed out that Stevens should have been doing that long ago. Greg is a good thing for the club, probably. Sandberg as manager, I’m not cracked up about. Obviously, the other 3 were exaggerations but the reincarnation of the 1990s Cubs is the feeling that I have
illicited.
He might do good things for the club, but I’m not convinced yet. After 5 months, I’ve made my decision. I needed answers and solutions right away. Instead I get a retention of troughs because of tradition.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 26, 2010, 11:16:11 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
I can get behind the notion that I don't have any friends outside of the interwebs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Ryne Sandberg - Manager (which I will concede he didn't have anything to do with him getting into the organization 4-5 yrs ago), Greg Maddux - Pitching Coach, Mark Grace - Hitting Coach, Turk Wendell - Bullpen Coach, Shawon Dunston - 3rd Base Coach.
I'm just looking forward to the prospects of a bleacher bum being the owner. It's gonna be great. It'll illicit all those nice feelings of what it's like to be Cubby! fan
Do you think it's a bad idea to have Maddux around? Are you in on some secret Ricketts hiring plan that the rest of us don't know about?
I'm going to throw something crazy out there: it's possible to pander to dipshits by bringing donuts to people waiting in line to buy tickets and hiring some loser to "direct fan experience" WHILE AT THE SAME TIME running a successful baseball organization. Let's see how it plays out, chubs.
I'm still amazed that anyone thinks Maddux is really going to do anything meaningful while here. Even some of the hard-hearted bastards on this messageboard seem to think he's going to play a significant role with the club. I think he's going to play an assload of golf and stand behind the mound in spring training telling people things they probably need to learn eventually. But whether they get better or not depends on a lot of things taht will happen when Maddux is downing his 8th Michelob at the 19th hole of some hidden gem of a golf course that doesn't allow Mexicans.
That's really what I think.
We get it. You have a hatred for Greg Maddux that is somehow more mystifying and irrational than all of my bizarre hatreds combined.
Quote from: MAD on February 26, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 26, 2010, 11:16:11 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
I can get behind the notion that I don't have any friends outside of the interwebs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Ryne Sandberg - Manager (which I will concede he didn't have anything to do with him getting into the organization 4-5 yrs ago), Greg Maddux - Pitching Coach, Mark Grace - Hitting Coach, Turk Wendell - Bullpen Coach, Shawon Dunston - 3rd Base Coach.
I'm just looking forward to the prospects of a bleacher bum being the owner. It's gonna be great. It'll illicit all those nice feelings of what it's like to be Cubby! fan
Do you think it's a bad idea to have Maddux around? Are you in on some secret Ricketts hiring plan that the rest of us don't know about?
I'm going to throw something crazy out there: it's possible to pander to dipshits by bringing donuts to people waiting in line to buy tickets and hiring some loser to "direct fan experience" WHILE AT THE SAME TIME running a successful baseball organization. Let's see how it plays out, chubs.
I'm still amazed that anyone thinks Maddux is really going to do anything meaningful while here. Even some of the hard-hearted bastards on this messageboard seem to think he's going to play a significant role with the club. I think he's going to play an assload of golf and stand behind the mound in spring training telling people things they probably need to learn eventually. But whether they get better or not depends on a lot of things taht will happen when Maddux is downing his 8th Michelob at the 19th hole of some hidden gem of a golf course that doesn't allow Mexicans.
That's really what I think.
We get it. You have a hatred for Greg Maddux that is somehow more mystifying and irrational than all of my bizarre hatreds combined.
I don't hate him. I really don't blame him for accepting free money from a team that expects him to do nothing, while retiring his number and encouraging its iditotic fanbase to continue fellating him for accomplishments and contributions he made for another team including bringing home World Series hardware. It's you lot that I have contempt for. Fuck off.
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 11:17:18 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
I can get behind the notion that I don't have any friends outside of the interwebs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Ryne Sandberg - Manager (which I will concede he didn't have anything to do with him getting into the organization 4-5 yrs ago), Greg Maddux - Pitching Coach, Mark Grace - Hitting Coach, Turk Wendell - Bullpen Coach, Shawon Dunston - 3rd Base Coach.
I'm just looking forward to the prospects of a bleacher bum being the owner. It's gonna be great. It'll illicit all those nice feelings of what it's like to be Cubby! fan
Do you think it's a bad idea to have Maddux around? Are you in on some secret Ricketts hiring plan that the rest of us don't know about?
I'm going to throw something crazy out there: it's possible to pander to dipshits by bringing donuts to people waiting in line to buy tickets and hiring some loser to "direct fan experience" WHILE AT THE SAME TIME running a successful baseball organization. Let's see how it plays out, chubs.
No, I don't have a problem with Maddux being around. That link that you posted the other day was nice, but I also think someone pointed out that Stevens should have been doing that long ago. Greg is a good thing for the club, probably. Sandberg as manager, I'm not cracked up about. Obviously, the other 3 were exaggerations but the reincarnation of the 1990s Cubs is the feeling that I have <i>illicited</i>.
He might do good things for the club, but I'm not convinced yet. After 5 months, I've made my decision. I needed answers and solutions right away. Instead I get a retention of troughs because of tradition.
I don't think Maddux is going to do anything significant to help the team. But it's harmless as far as fan-pandering moves go.
When the deal closed, Ricketts repeatedly said that they were going to take a year to evaluate everything about the team. If Kenney and Hendry are still around next winter I'll be glad to jump on your hatewagon.
Quote from: Oleg on February 26, 2010, 10:16:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 26, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
Illicit feelings.
Like an Illegal Smile?
I give up. What is an illegal simile? For that matter, what is a legal simile?
Quote from: CBStew on February 26, 2010, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 26, 2010, 10:16:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 26, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
Illicit feelings.
Like an Illegal Smile?
I give up. What is an illegal simile? For that matter, what is a legal simile?
Ask the anti-defamation league. They have a list. I support them by the way so don't get any ideas.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 11:17:18 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 26, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
We're gonna look like idiots if this fat fuck has a good year.
I'm confident we won't though. FML.
The day of the trade my Cardinals fan buddy (not IAN) who likes to play devil's advocate on anything I get pissed off about, which is a lot, tried to tell me I'll regret my anger when he is good. I wouldn't back down. That fat fuck is going to suck and I'll go on thinking it was the worst trade Hendry's ever made and more the reason to fire his dumbass. This team has to make a trade to save a couple million a year? Well, if you dumbfucks were a little smarter with your money, then you wouldn't be in this fucking situation. Fuck Carlos Silva. Fuck Jim Hendry. Fuck Tom Ricketts, too. Him and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
Wait, apart from ACB you also post on Cardinals fan blogs? You fucking traitorous jello mold.
I can get behind the notion that I don't have any friends outside of the interwebs.
Quote from: R-V on February 26, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:46:24 AMHim and his little scheme to recreate the Cubs teams of the 90s as managers is surely going to end well. RSM! GMPC! MGHC! TWBC! SD3BC!
I don't understand any of this.
Ryne Sandberg - Manager (which I will concede he didn't have anything to do with him getting into the organization 4-5 yrs ago), Greg Maddux - Pitching Coach, Mark Grace - Hitting Coach, Turk Wendell - Bullpen Coach, Shawon Dunston - 3rd Base Coach.
I'm just looking forward to the prospects of a bleacher bum being the owner. It's gonna be great. It'll illicit all those nice feelings of what it's like to be Cubby! fan
Do you think it's a bad idea to have Maddux around? Are you in on some secret Ricketts hiring plan that the rest of us don't know about?
I'm going to throw something crazy out there: it's possible to pander to dipshits by bringing donuts to people waiting in line to buy tickets and hiring some loser to "direct fan experience" WHILE AT THE SAME TIME running a successful baseball organization. Let's see how it plays out, chubs.
No, I don't have a problem with Maddux being around. That link that you posted the other day was nice, but I also think someone pointed out that Stevens should have been doing that long ago. Greg is a good thing for the club, probably. Sandberg as manager, I'm not cracked up about. Obviously, the other 3 were exaggerations but the reincarnation of the 1990s Cubs is the feeling that I have <i>illicited</i>.
He might do good things for the club, but I'm not convinced yet. After 5 months, I've made my decision. I needed answers and solutions right away. Instead I get a retention of troughs because of tradition.
I don't think Maddux is going to do anything significant to help the team. But it's harmless as far as fan-pandering moves go.
When the deal closed, Ricketts repeatedly said that they were going to take a year to evaluate everything about the team. If Kenney and Hendry are still around next winter I'll be glad to jump on your hatewagon.
You'd hope that regardless of finish in 2010, they'd "evaluate" these two assholes out of town. What I hate is the mentality that I have to root for another failure of a season for the Cubs to do something different in the operations department.
I expect the Cubs to be absolutely mediocre. Meaning Ol' Ricketts is going to have to let us know if he really believes that's acceptable. Does he honestly want the Cubs to be one of the few teams in the majors that will not accept anything less than championships? If so he's going to have get these morons out of there and do whatever it takes to hire the best.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 26, 2010, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 26, 2010, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 26, 2010, 10:16:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 26, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
Illicit feelings.
Like an Illegal Smile?
I give up. What is an illegal simile? For that matter, what is a legal simile?
I know what a vertical smile is.
Pen is only one who's ever listened to John Prine?
Stew, you can figure this out. Illegal Smile? Like after...oh...smoking something? And you're the one who lives in a college town! I bet all of Berkley smells like pot.
Quote from: Oleg on February 26, 2010, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 26, 2010, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 26, 2010, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 26, 2010, 10:16:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 26, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
Illicit feelings.
Like an Illegal Smile?
I give up. What is an illegal simile? For that matter, what is a legal simile?
I know what a vertical smile is.
Pen is only one who's ever listened to John Prine?
Stew, you can figure this out. Illegal Smile? Like after...oh...smoking something? And you're the one who lives in a college town! I bet all of Berkley smells like pot.
Read it again, dude.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/lilly-on-viral-infection-definitely-a-setback.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/lilly-on-viral-infection-definitely-a-setback.html)
QuoteTed Lilly was knocked out of action the last five days with a viral infection, and the illness is likely to push back his return date.
"This is definitely a setback," Lilly said. "In one regard, it's fortunate it's not my shoulder or anything like that. It makes you really appreciate your health."
Quote from: Waco Kid on February 26, 2010, 02:48:59 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/lilly-on-viral-infection-definitely-a-setback.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/lilly-on-viral-infection-definitely-a-setback.html)
QuoteTed Lilly was knocked out of action the last five days with a viral infection, and the illness is likely to push back his return date.
"This is definitely a setback," Lilly said. "In one regard, it's fortunate it's not my shoulder or anything like that. It makes you really appreciate your health."
...but not your expiring contract.
Que YetiRage. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0303-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100302,0,2905063.story)
VORPs!
Quote from: Slack-E on March 03, 2010, 03:24:45 PM
Que YetiRage. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0303-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100302,0,2905063.story)
I think it would be best for everyone if Hendry would just shut the fuck up.
Quote"... We've always factored that in. But I'm always going to be a scouting guy first. You can skew statistics to frame it the way you like it."
You just gotta love the rigid conviction the guy has when it comes to something as malleable as player evaluation. Heaven forbid this fat fuck do any introspection or re-evaluate his methods.
Jim Hendry can eat shit.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 03, 2010, 03:24:45 PM
Que YetiRage. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0303-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100302,0,2905063.story)
I like that Sullivan didn't even call OPS the same thing that 99.9% of the baseball world calls it. It's not like it's a standard stat on most websites.
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 03:35:40 PM
Quote"... We've always factored that in. But I'm always going to be a scouting guy first. You can skew statistics to frame it the way you like it."
You just gotta love the rigid conviction the guy has when it comes to something as malleable as player evaluation. Heaven forbid this fat fuck do any introspection or re-evaluate his methods.
Jim Hendry can eat shit.
I like that the Cubs used statistical analysis to determine that it would be a good idea to sign Aaron Miles because his batting average was .392 in day games the previous year.
No wait, I hate that. HATE IT.
Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 03:35:40 PM
Quote"... We've always factored that in. But I'm always going to be a scouting guy first. You can skew statistics to frame it the way you like it."
You just gotta love the rigid conviction the guy has when it comes to something as malleable as player evaluation. Heaven forbid this fat fuck do any introspection or re-evaluate his methods.
Jim Hendry can eat shit.
I like that the Cubs used statistical analysis to determine that it would be a good idea to sign Aaron Miles because his batting average was .392 in day games the previous year.
No wait, I hate that. HATE IT.
Or you have to like that they use stats but:
Quote"But by the end of the day ... I'm going to look at (scouting advisers) Kenny Kravec or Dave Littlefield or Gary Hughes, and say: 'This is what I think. What do you think?' "
Quote from: Yeti on March 03, 2010, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 03:35:40 PM
Quote"... We've always factored that in. But I'm always going to be a scouting guy first. You can skew statistics to frame it the way you like it."
You just gotta love the rigid conviction the guy has when it comes to something as malleable as player evaluation. Heaven forbid this fat fuck do any introspection or re-evaluate his methods.
Jim Hendry can eat shit.
I like that the Cubs used statistical analysis to determine that it would be a good idea to sign Aaron Miles because his batting average was .392 in day games the previous year.
No wait, I hate that. HATE IT.
Or you have to like that they use stats but:
Quote"But by the end of the day ... I'm going to look at (scouting advisers) Kenny Kravec or Dave Littlefield or Gary Hughes, and say: 'This is what I think. What do you think?' "
I think that all the dumb people run things while all the smart people make dick jokes on internet messageboards.
Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 03:35:40 PM
Quote"... We've always factored that in. But I'm always going to be a scouting guy first. You can skew statistics to frame it the way you like it."
You just gotta love the rigid conviction the guy has when it comes to something as malleable as player evaluation. Heaven forbid this fat fuck do any introspection or re-evaluate his methods.
Jim Hendry can eat shit.
I like that the Cubs used statistical analysis to determine that it would be a good idea to sign Aaron Miles because his batting average was .392 in day games the previous year.
No wait, I hate that. HATE IT.
Quote from: Paul SullivanAaron Miles had a great batting average in 141 day game plate appearances in 2008. In 2009, he performed at the level of the shitty player that he was in the other 94% of his career, just like everyone but Jim Hendry would expect. Therefore, sabermetrics fail.
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Quote from: Yeti on March 03, 2010, 03:41:21 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on March 03, 2010, 03:24:45 PM
Que YetiRage. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0303-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100302,0,2905063.story)
I like that Sullivan didn't even call OPS the same thing that 99.9% of the baseball world calls it. It's not like it's a standard stat on most websites.
I like that you completely make up percentages to justify your PAUL SULLIVAN hate.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational hate on
your part.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Did you get a little worked up and press the enter button a time too many?
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 03:58:19 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of Milton being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 04:02:30 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 03:58:19 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Pen loves his players to be nice sweet gentlemen. That's why he hates Cutler. If only he followed a team that had a QB who shoved his dick in a gyne without saying "please" first, you know, so we could give him shit for it.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 04:02:30 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 03:58:19 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of Milton being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Look, we all hate Milton Bradley. That's a given. But there was at least some possibility last Spring that he would at least play well while being a total choad.
Quote from: Yeti on March 03, 2010, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 04:02:30 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 03:58:19 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Pen loves his players to be nice sweet gentlemen. That's why he hates Cutler. If only he followed a team that had a QB who shoved his dick in a gyne without saying "please" first, you know, so we could give him shit for it.
This is libelous, defamatory and misspelled.
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See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Pen loves his players to be nice sweet gentlemen. That's why he hates Cutler. If only he followed a team that had a QB who shoved his dick in a gyne without saying "please" first, you know, so we could give him shit for it.
This is libelous, defamatory and misspelled.
Sure about that? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyne)
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Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Pen loves his players to be nice sweet gentlemen. That's why he hates Cutler. If only he followed a team that had a QB who shoved his dick in a gyne without saying "please" first, you know, so we could give him shit for it.
This is libelous, defamatory and misspelled.
Sure about that? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyne)
Sextus Empiricus strikes again.
Quote"You make your final call factoring all that in, but you certainly weigh heavily on the guy sitting in the stands who's working for you," Hendry said.
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Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Pen loves his players to be nice sweet gentlemen. That's why he hates Cutler. If only he followed a team that had a QB who shoved his dick in a gyne without saying "please" first, you know, so we could give him shit for it.
This is libelous, defamatory and misspelled.
Sure about that? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyne)
I assume you didn't actually read that.
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Gyne is the primary reproductive female caste of social insects (especially ants, wasps, and bees)
I believe you were looking for "gine" (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gine)
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Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Pen loves his players to be nice sweet gentlemen. That's why he hates Cutler. If only he followed a team that had a QB who shoved his dick in a gyne without saying "please" first, you know, so we could give him shit for it.
This is libelous, defamatory and misspelled.
Sure about that? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyne)
I assume you didn't actually read that.
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Gyne is the primary reproductive female caste of social insects (especially ants, wasps, and bees)
I believe you were looking for "gine" (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gine)
You think I wasn't accusing Ben wReckingWomensLives of sticking his cock into a group of women bees? You're sadly mistaken, son.
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Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
See the problem here is that now, by admitting that they have no idea how to properly use statistics, it gives Yeti ammunition to do retarded things like continue to support Milton Bradley and say things like "If you take out 20% of the season, Milton matched his career OBP!"
Fuck stupid Hendry and fuck Yeti for now thinking that he was right all along.
Yeah, but fuck Milton Bradley more for validating what was once a completely irrational rational and justifiable hate based upon years of being a douchebag your part.
Reality'd!
Pen loves his players to be nice sweet gentlemen. That's why he hates Cutler. If only he followed a team that had a QB who shoved his dick in a gyne without saying "please" first, you know, so we could give him shit for it.
This is libelous, defamatory and misspelled.
Sure about that? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyne)
I assume you didn't actually read that.
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Gyne is the primary reproductive female caste of social insects (especially ants, wasps, and bees)
I believe you were looking for "gine" (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gine)
You think I wasn't accusing Ben wReckingWomensLives of sticking his cock into a group of women bees? You're sadly mistaken, son.
This is a riveting display.
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Que YetiRage. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0303-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100302,0,2905063.story)
I like that Sullivan didn't even call OPS the same thing that 99.9% of the baseball world calls it. It's not like it's a standard stat on most websites.
I like that you completely make up percentages to justify your PAUL SULLIVAN hate.
I'm with SABRYeti on this one. OPS isn't some obscure stat that Fangraphs pulled out of their ass. ESPN uses it on their national broadcasts. Tdubbs probably even knows what it is. I'm sure Sullivan is a great guy to have a Hamm's with, but the fact that he doesn't show much curiosity in an area that's kind of important in the sport he covers is disappointing. It's like a financial writer calling a P/E ratio a PEE ratio. If you're that jaded about your beat, maybe you should rotate to a different beat.
On that note, didn't the Trib used to rotate their beat writers among sports/teams? I feel like Sullivan's been stuck with the Cubs for at least 5 years or so. Poor bastard.
This will be his eighth straight year on the Cubs beat. Before that he covered the Sox from 2000-02. He was on the Cubs beat in 1999 and pissed off Ed Lynch by ripping the Cubs roster to shreds during a rain delay on WGN TV. I don't recall how long he was on the beat prior to that but I'm fairly certain that his move to the Sox beat in 2000 was largely due to bad blood between he and somebody important after that rant. It wasn't even a huge Harry Caray style rant. He just basically said the Cubs need to "nuke this team." I don't think he even called out Riggleman.
EDIT: Actually that rant might have been more of a beut than I recall. I'm sure I was quite baked given the time and date.
QuoteQ: Please share your favorite story about a colleague – one of the other members of the local Cubs beat writers.
A: My pal Paul Sullivan, a fair competitor and a good guy, went on Channel 9 during a rain delay in 1999 and said Ed Lynch should be fired and Andy MacPhail should come down and be the GM. Sully was ahead of his time; that happened a year later. Sully caught some immediate flak for that one, but it was great TV.
http://blog.cubhub.net/2009/04/26/cubs-beat-with-bruce-miles/
Quote from: R-V on March 04, 2010, 08:27:34 AM
On that note, didn't the Trib used to rotate their beat writers among sports/teams? I feel like Sullivan's been stuck with the Cubs for at least 5 years or so. Poor bastard.
Aye.
I distinctly recall Joey Reaves (who, one year, had as his tagline "Joseph A. Reaves". Whatever, weirdo) and Alan Solomon (Mrs. Muskat, if I'm not mistaken, and a guy whom Reaves savages as an ignorant asshole in his book "Warsaw to Wrigley" published in the mid-to-late 90's) going back and forth with the Cubs and Sox from year to year from around 90-94.
RV, yesterday you gave me crap asking if my ACB buddies are still pissed about the Cubs not signing Cubans. Now you may have had knowledge of that Serrano deal at the time (I didn't find out until late last night), but I kind of hope you caught this: http://www.anothercubsblog.net/2010-articles/march/some-info-on-serrano.html
Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 09:41:04 AM
Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
Even greater than Not-Locke?
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Quote from: R-V on March 04, 2010, 08:27:34 AM
On that note, didn't the Trib used to rotate their beat writers among sports/teams? I feel like Sullivan's been stuck with the Cubs for at least 5 years or so. Poor bastard.
Aye.
I distinctly recall Joey Reaves (who, one year, had as his tagline "Joseph A. Reaves". Whatever, weirdo) and Alan Solomon (Mrs. Muskat, if I'm not mistaken, and a guy whom Reaves savages as an ignorant asshole in his book "Warsaw to Wrigley" published in the mid-to-late 90's) going back and forth with the Cubs and Sox from year to year from around 90-94.
Joey Reaves covered the Cubs for one year and then faded back into news. It was his reward for covering Poland during the fall of the Commies.
Alan Solomon and Andrew Bagnato were also beat writers for the Cubs and I believe they switched beats annually at the All-Star break. They would run dueling columns in the form of letters to each other to tell them how terrible it was on their beats (I distinctly remember one such letter advised the other writer of Jeff Torborg's gas and that the other writer should advise him not to eat Mexican food.)
Solomon was moved to the travel section after a tiff with a female assistant managing sports editor who removed the TVs from the sports desk. Solomon was one of the guys who led the revolt against her on this, and then when the battle ended (I'm pretty sure the writers got their TVs back), Solomon sent her flowers as a gesture of friendship (or to hit on her). A complaint was filed and he wound up taking his exorbitant salary to travel with the Muskrat to exotic places on the Tribune Company's dime.
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Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
Even greater than Not-Locke?
I must break you.
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Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
Even greater than Not-Locke?
I must break you.
Sexually?
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Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
Even greater than Not-Locke?
I must break you.
Sexually?
***Shudder***
I'm appalled. I'm not cute? Well, fuck you, too, Bort.
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 09:41:04 AM
Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I'm using this before I die.
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Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 09:41:04 AM
Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I'm using this before I die.
That phrase is to be used upon Jimmy Carter's death, and not before.
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Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I'm using this before I die.
That phrase is to be used upon Jimmy Carter's death, and not before.
I'm getting impatient.
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 10:53:11 AM
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 09:41:04 AM
Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I'm using this before I die.
Probably sometime in April when Carlos Silva makes his first appearance.
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Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I'm using this before I die.
Probably sometime in April when Carlos Silva makes his first appearance.
Crap, I forgot he existed for a few glorious minutes. Thanks for ruining that.
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Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I'm using this before I die.
Probably sometime in April when Carlos Silva makes his first appearance.
Crap, I forgot he existed for a few glorious minutes. Thanks for ruining that.
Great. Now I have to kill ANOTHER part of my higher memory functions with alcohol.
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Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I'm using this before I die.
Probably sometime in April when Carlos Silva makes his first appearance.
Crap, I forgot he existed for a few glorious minutes. Thanks for ruining that.
Great. Now I have to kill ANOTHER part of my higher memory functions with alcohol.
TO KITTY O'SHEA'S!
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Damn it Yeti. Now you're link-spamming us for ACB? You are history's greatest monster.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I'm using this before I die.
Probably sometime in April when Carlos Silva makes his first appearance.
Crap, I forgot he existed for a few glorious minutes. Thanks for ruining that.
Great. Now I have to kill ANOTHER part of my higher memory functions with alcohol.
TO KITTY O'SHEA'S!
Save your money. Use a ballpeen hammer instead.
And Jimmy Carter Simpsons references need to be used more often and with aplomb.
Didn't really seem worthy of its own thread, but SI ranks Hendry as the 16th best GM in baseball. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tim_marchman/03/03/gm.rankings/1.html)
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16. Jim Hendry, Chicago Cubs
It's tempting to overreact to a lousy 2009 and to heavily count bad contracts doled out to players such as Alfonso Soriano and Milton Bradley against Hendry, but the truth is that he built a consistently successful team that had every chance to win a World Series at its peak and just didn't, through no real fault of his. The Cubs are now likely in for a hangover as the core of that team ages, but given the team's history he was right to go for it all.
They ranked my brother #1.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 04, 2010, 01:22:33 PM
Didn't really seem worthy of its own thread, but SI ranks Hendry as the 16th best GM in baseball. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tim_marchman/03/03/gm.rankings/1.html)
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16. Jim Hendry, Chicago Cubs
It's tempting to overreact to a lousy 2009 and to heavily count bad contracts doled out to players such as Alfonso Soriano and Milton Bradley against Hendry, but the truth is that he built a consistently successful team that had every chance to win a World Series at its peak and just didn't, through no real fault of his. The Cubs are now likely in for a hangover as the core of that team ages, but given the team's history he was right to go for it all.
They ranked my brother #1.
Narrowly beating out my future cousin-in-law.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 04, 2010, 01:22:33 PM
Didn't really seem worthy of its own thread, but SI ranks Hendry as the 16th best GM in baseball. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tim_marchman/03/03/gm.rankings/1.html)
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16. Jim Hendry, Chicago Cubs
It's tempting to overreact to a lousy 2009 and to heavily count bad contracts doled out to players such as Alfonso Soriano and Milton Bradley against Hendry, but the truth is that he built a consistently successful team that had every chance to win a World Series at its peak and just didn't, through no real fault of his. The Cubs are now likely in for a hangover as the core of that team ages, but given the team's history he was right to go for it all.
They ranked my brother #1.
They also identify several as meaning "two."
Quote from: PenFoe on March 04, 2010, 01:22:33 PM
Didn't really seem worthy of its own thread, but SI ranks Hendry as the 16th best GM in baseball. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tim_marchman/03/03/gm.rankings/1.html)
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16. Jim Hendry, Chicago Cubs
It's tempting to overreact to a lousy 2009 and to heavily count bad contracts doled out to players such as Alfonso Soriano and Milton Bradley against Hendry, but the truth is that he built a consistently successful team that had every chance to win a World Series at its peak and just didn't, through no real fault of his. The Cubs are now likely in for a hangover as the core of that team ages, but given the team's history he was right to go for it all.
They ranked my brother #1.
He might be 16, but most everyone after him is either new on the job or Omar Minaya, Ned Colletti, Brian Sabean, Ed Wade, Dayton Moore.
He's pretty much in the bottom 6 or 7 on that list.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 04, 2010, 01:22:33 PM
Didn't really seem worthy of its own thread, but SI ranks Hendry as the 16th best GM in baseball. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tim_marchman/03/03/gm.rankings/1.html)
How is Mozeliak worse than Hendry? Mozeliak remade his team on the fly last year. And Colletti has been to the playoffs nearly as often, beaten Hendry head to head and won more playoff series than him in far shorter of a time.
Listening to the broadcast of the first game on the A's radio station and the first comment that the announcers made was that there was no way that Soto weighed 230 pounds as listed on their programs. They were really impressed by how thin he was.
You know it's spring when you hear another Garry Meier promo. Do I have to hear that 5 seconds of suck every day for the next seven months?
Quote from: Brownie on March 04, 2010, 02:19:32 PM
You know it's spring when you hear another Garry Meier promo. Do I have to hear that 5 seconds of suck every day for the next seven months?
Nope...the beauty of opposing team broadcasts (http://stream1.securenetsystems.net:443/radio_player_large.cfm?stationCallSign=KTRB&relocateURL=true) (click for today's A's team).
But Gary is going to talk to the Ricketts! Just think how compelling the radio will be on that destined day.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 04, 2010, 01:22:33 PM
Didn't really seem worthy of its own thread, but SI ranks Hendry as the 16th best GM in baseball. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tim_marchman/03/03/gm.rankings/1.html)
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16. Jim Hendry, Chicago Cubs
It's tempting to overreact to a lousy 2009 and to heavily count bad contracts doled out to players such as Alfonso Soriano and Milton Bradley against Hendry, but the truth is that he built a consistently successful team that had every chance to win a World Series at its peak and just didn't, through no real fault of his. The Cubs are now likely in for a hangover as the core of that team ages, but given the team's history he was right to go for it all.
They ranked my brother #1.
This team is "consistently successful" at what, exactly?
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 04, 2010, 01:22:33 PM
Didn't really seem worthy of its own thread, but SI ranks Hendry as the 16th best GM in baseball. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tim_marchman/03/03/gm.rankings/1.html)
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16. Jim Hendry, Chicago Cubs
It's tempting to overreact to a lousy 2009 and to heavily count bad contracts doled out to players such as Alfonso Soriano and Milton Bradley against Hendry, but the truth is that he built a consistently successful team that had every chance to win a World Series at its peak and just didn't, through no real fault of his. The Cubs are now likely in for a hangover as the core of that team ages, but given the team's history he was right to go for it all.
They ranked my brother #1.
This team is "consistently successful" at what, exactly?
Roundhouse kicking me in the ballsack summer after summer?
Quote from: PenFoe on March 04, 2010, 02:20:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on March 04, 2010, 02:19:32 PM
You know it's spring when you hear another Garry Meier promo. Do I have to hear that 5 seconds of suck every day for the next seven months?
Nope...the beauty of opposing team broadcasts (http://stream1.securenetsystems.net:443/radio_player_large.cfm?stationCallSign=KTRB&relocateURL=true) (click for today's A's team).
But how will I know if the Cubs are wearing their familiar white jerseys and pants with blue pinstripes, blue numbers and blue socks?
Marlon Byrd has sprung! He's going to have the Miltar Bradleyaparra like spring and then fade into Bolivian come April.
Let's hope the fans in the bleachers remember to bring their racial epithets to the games this year.
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Intrepid Readers: Section 242 & MAD: YYYEEEEEAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
That's an awfully high bar there. It may not be a great Cubs team this year, but it certainly won't set a new high in suck.
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 04, 2010, 03:27:58 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
That's an awfully high bar there. It may not be a great Cubs team this year, but it certainly won't set a new high in suck.
I can't imagine it will be the worst Cubs season in the the past decade, much less the worst of all time.
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Quote from: Waco Kid on March 04, 2010, 03:27:58 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
That's an awfully high bar there. It may not be a great Cubs team this year, but it certainly won't set a new high in suck.
I can't imagine it will be the worst Cubs season in the the past decade, much less the worst of all time.
On a scale of 1-Awesome, it's going to be awesome.
Quote from: Simmer on March 04, 2010, 02:23:52 PM
But Gary is going to talk to the Ricketts! Just think how compelling the radio will be on that destined day.
What's Gary's plan for sucking up to his listenership this year? Or is going continue last year's crusade to get a statue of Ron Santo put in front of Wrigley Field?
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Did you miss 1997? I mean, I was only 9 years old, but those scars will last forever.
I'm a moran for posting that first sentence but it is nice to have some baseball on the radio again.
As I listen to Santo stumble and bumble through this game (it's endearing today; it won't be as much by April 14), I am left to wonder: How much money does Andy rake in writing shit about the Cubs?
Quote from: SKO on March 04, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Did you miss 1997? I mean, I was only 9 years old, but those scars will last forever.
That 0-14 start was hilariously bad, but I honestly think 2006 was a bigger shitshow.
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Quote from: SKO on March 04, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Did you miss 1997? I mean, I was only 9 years old, but those scars will last forever.
That 0-14 start was hilariously bad, but I honestly think 2006 was a bigger shitshow.
The 1999,2000, and 2002 squads all have their merits as well. It's a tough call.
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This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Did you miss 1997? I mean, I was only 9 years old, but those scars will last forever.
That 0-14 start was hilariously bad, but I honestly think 2006 was a bigger shitshow.
Thinking of 2006 still fills me with HUEYESQUE levels of rage.
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 04:13:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 04, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Did you miss 1997? I mean, I was only 9 years old, but those scars will last forever.
That 0-14 start was hilariously bad, but I honestly think 2006 was a bigger shitshow.
Thinking of 2006 still fills me with HUEYESQUE levels of rage.
Neifi!, Bynum, Jae Kuk Ryu, Tony Womack, Roberto Novoa, Jacque Jones, Juan Pierre, Michael Barrett, John Mabry, Mark Prior's Last Stand, Jerome Williams, Dusty.....yeah, alright. Those fuckers were the worst I've had to deal with.
Quote from: SKO on March 04, 2010, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 04:13:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 04, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Did you miss 1997? I mean, I was only 9 years old, but those scars will last forever.
That 0-14 start was hilariously bad, but I honestly think 2006 was a bigger shitshow.
Thinking of 2006 still fills me with HUEYESQUE levels of rage.
Neifi!, Bynum, Jae Kuk Ryu, Tony Womack, Roberto Novoa, Jacque Jones, Juan Pierre, Michael Barrett, John Mabry, Mark Prior's Last Stand, Jerome Williams, Dusty.....yeah, alright. Those fuckers were the worst I've had to deal with.
RRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
JON SMASH!!!
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 04, 2010, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 04, 2010, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 04, 2010, 04:13:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 04, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 04, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
This season will probably set new highs for suck on the field & on the air but it sure is nice to have Pat & Ron back on the (satellite) radio.
Did you miss 1997? I mean, I was only 9 years old, but those scars will last forever.
That 0-14 start was hilariously bad, but I honestly think 2006 was a bigger shitshow.
Thinking of 2006 still fills me with HUEYESQUE levels of rage.
Neifi!, Bynum, Jae Kuk Ryu, Tony Womack, Roberto Novoa, Jacque Jones, Juan Pierre, Michael Barrett, John Mabry, Mark Prior's Last Stand, Jerome Williams, Dusty.....yeah, alright. Those fuckers were the worst I've had to deal with.
RRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
JON SMASH!!!
Look, I'm just here to reminisce about good ole 2004 with my buddy Tank.
We really going to relive the shitty years? That's like reliving the time I experienced rectal bleeding.
You should have seen the Atlantic Ocean back then. That was some ocean.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080388/quotes?qt0388244
Quote from: Yeti on March 04, 2010, 04:27:41 PM
We really going to relive the shitty years? That's like reliving the time I experienced rectal bleeding.
Which time, 1999? 2004? 2006?
The Cubs got rid of Dusty thanks to the craptastic 2006 season, but the team was actually decent to good until the bottom of the 7th on April 19th that year. Damn Eyre and Furcal. If I remember correctly, they even treaded water for a couple weeks after that. But then there was another West Coast trip early in May and that killed them, they scored something like 3 runs in the first 4 games of the trip and never recovered after that.
By the way: Count me shocked that a West Coast road trip killed a Cubs season.
I know that team was s***, but I am convinced that if Lee doesn't get hurt on that f***ing play the Cubs win the division that year since the Cardinals only needed 83 to win it.
Christ, I didn't mean to wreck this thread.
I will now go to the box for two minutes and feel shame.
Quote from: BC on March 04, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
The Cubs got rid of Dusty thanks to the craptastic 2006 season, but the team was actually decent to good until the bottom of the 7th on April 19th that year. Damn Eyre and Furcal. If I remember correctly, they even treaded water for a couple weeks after that. But then there was another West Coast trip early in May and that killed them, they scored something like 3 runs in the first 4 games of the trip and never recovered after that.
By the way: Count me shocked that a West Coast road trip killed a Cubs season.
I know that team was s***, but I am convinced that if Lee doesn't get hurt on that f***ing play the Cubs win the division that year since the Cardinals only needed 83 to win it.
They were 9-5 when Lee went down. I hardly think 14 games is any indicator that team would have been anywhere near contention. Derrek Lee alone is nowhere near enough to overcome having to use 15 freakin starting pitchers and an offense that was 15th in the NL in runs and dead last in OBP.
Quote from: SKO on March 04, 2010, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: BC on March 04, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
The Cubs got rid of Dusty thanks to the craptastic 2006 season, but the team was actually decent to good until the bottom of the 7th on April 19th that year. Damn Eyre and Furcal. If I remember correctly, they even treaded water for a couple weeks after that. But then there was another West Coast trip early in May and that killed them, they scored something like 3 runs in the first 4 games of the trip and never recovered after that.
By the way: Count me shocked that a West Coast road trip killed a Cubs season.
I know that team was s***, but I am convinced that if Lee doesn't get hurt on that f***ing play the Cubs win the division that year since the Cardinals only needed 83 to win it.
They were 9-5 when Lee went down. I hardly think 14 games is any indicator that team would have been anywhere near contention. Derrek Lee alone is nowhere near enough to overcome having to use 15 freakin starting pitchers and an offense that was 15th in the NL in runs and dead last in OBP.
Yeah, but it killed our chemistry, dude! Can't win without chemistry and appropriately coloured 1st basemen for day games!
Why are we rehashing this shit again? I've put all these memories right next to the cum dumpster holding all my ex-girlfriends in my mind.
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
Look, the only season this one is going to mirror is 1908, okay?
If you can't be positive on March 5th, you suck.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
See also: 1985
Quote from: PenFoe on March 05, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
Look, the only season this one is going to mirror is 1908, okay?
If you can't be positive on March 5th, you suck.
I am VERY TEMPORARILY aligning myself with Pen.
Quote from: Jon on March 05, 2010, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 05, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
Look, the only season this one is going to mirror is 1908, okay?
If you can't be positive on March 5th, you suck.
I am VERY TEMPORARILY aligning myself with Pen.
I don't see why you have to align yourself with him. Just say they won't suck and keep your distance.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 05, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
Look, the only season this one is going to mirror is 1908, okay?
If you can't be positive on March 5th, you suck.
Agreed.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 05, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 05, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
Look, the only season this one is going to mirror is 1908, okay?
If you can't be positive on March 5th, you suck.
Agreed.
I also agree - I do suck.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 05, 2010, 12:01:13 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 05, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 05, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
Look, the only season this one is going to mirror is 1908, okay?
If you can't be positive on March 5th, you suck.
Agreed.
I also agree - I do suck.
This sucks too. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/cubs-guzman-wont-be-ready-for-start-of-season.html)
QuoteCubs reliever Angel Guzman saw a doctor Thursday and will not be ready to start the regular season, manager Lou Piniella said Friday, P.
Esmailin Caridad will be the right-handed set-up man for now, Piniella said.
Cue KE Photoshop of Amistad ship with a bunch of wretched relief pitchers puking on each other entitled "CARIDAD."
Actually don't.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 01:23:27 PM
Cue KE Photoshop of Amistad ship with a bunch of wretched relief pitchers puking on each other entitled "CARIDAD."
Actually don't.
I do not understand this Apex description at all
Quote from: thehawk on March 05, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 01:23:27 PM
Cue KE Photoshop of Amistad ship with a bunch of wretched relief pitchers puking on each other entitled "CARIDAD."
Actually don't.
I do not understand this Apex description at all
I don't either.
(http://www.93950.com/boats/images/amistad.jpg)
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: thehawk on March 05, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 01:23:27 PM
Cue KE Photoshop of Amistad ship with a bunch of wretched relief pitchers puking on each other entitled "CARIDAD."
Actually don't.
I do not understand this Apex description at all
I don't either.
(http://www.93950.com/boats/images/amistad.jpg)
"Am I the story of the Negro in America?"
Quote from: R-V on March 05, 2010, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on March 05, 2010, 12:01:13 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 05, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 05, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 05, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 05, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I think this season will mirror 2005. I hope that's true because if it means the Bears will be good I can suffer through a semi-bad Cubs season. I'll just play more golf.
I thought the 2009 season mirrored 2005.
Look, the only season this one is going to mirror is 1908, okay?
If you can't be positive on March 5th, you suck.
Agreed.
I also agree - I do suck.
This sucks too. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/cubs-guzman-wont-be-ready-for-start-of-season.html)
QuoteCubs reliever Angel Guzman saw a doctor Thursday and will not be ready to start the regular season, manager Lou Piniella said Friday, P.
Esmailin Caridad will be the right-handed set-up man for now, Piniella said.
Really, really sucks. (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=3819)
Quote
Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune writes that right-hander Angel Guzman (shoulder) may be "cooked" for the 2010 season.
"It seems like the kid is jinxed," Cubs manager Lou Pinella said about the 28-year-old, who is also rehabbing from knee surgery. Guzman was scheduled to undergo an MRI on his sore right shoulder on Friday, but it's not clear if the results have been released. Guzman was expected to be a major cog in the Cubs' bullpen this season after posting a a 2.95 ERA and 1.05 WHIP in 55 appearances last season.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 05, 2010, 08:24:01 PM
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Guzman was expected to be a major cog in the Cubs' bullpen this season except by everyone with half a brain and BC who expected him to be injured after posting a a 2.95 ERA and 1.05 WHIP in 55 appearances last season.
DOOM'd
Ryan Theriot is dumb (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0307-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100306,0,5390838.story)
QuoteRyan Theriot was in the minority. Theriot believes a Jumbotron could change the ballpark forever, adding extraneous noise, doughnut races and a "Kiss Cam."
"If you're going to do that, you might as well change the whole park and modernize everything," Theriot said. "The way it is now is the way it's been for years, and the way it's meant to be, so you might as well leave it the way it is. I know things change and times change, but from a historical standpoint, that Wrigley vibe, that feel ... a Jumbotron would change everything."
How dare the Cubs do something that would change everything! They might actually *gasp* win a world series if they change everything. BLEED GRIZZLY PINK
Just so all of the misguided romantic nitwits are clear, Wrigley Field as it "originally" was would have been indistinguishable from Wrigley Field in 1990, let alone today. The sentiment that the "structural integrity" or the "charm" or the "history" needs to remain as it has always (falsely) been-- a notion harbored not only by the shut-ins at BCB but pretty much everywhere--needs to wither and die. I used to care about jumbotrons, but I couldn't give a fuck anymore.
Quote from: MAD on March 07, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Just so all of the misguided romantic nitwits are clear, Wrigley Field as it "originally" was would have been indistinguishable from Wrigley Field in 1990, let alone today. The sentiment that the "structural integrity" or the "charm" or the "history" needs to remain as it has always (falsely) been-- a notion harbored not only by the shut-ins at BCB but pretty much everywhere--needs to wither and die. I used to care about jumbotrons, but I couldn't give a fuck anymore.
I want a Jumbotron.
Jumbotron = more revenue = more / better players
Those who don't want Jumbotrons want the Cubs to have a competitive disadvantage.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 07, 2010, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 07, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Just so all of the misguided romantic nitwits are clear, Wrigley Field as it "originally" was would have been indistinguishable from Wrigley Field in 1990, let alone today. The sentiment that the "structural integrity" or the "charm" or the "history" needs to remain as it has always (falsely) been-- a notion harbored not only by the shut-ins at BCB but pretty much everywhere--needs to wither and die. I used to care about jumbotrons, but I couldn't give a fuck anymore.
I want a Jumbotron.
Jumbotron = more revenue = more / better players
Those who don't want Jumbotrons want the Cubs to have a competitive disadvantage.
Looks like we're back to the Cubs' wallets being "not Chuck's money" again.
Until further notice, I suppose.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 07, 2010, 02:35:29 PM
Jumbotron = more revenue = which might result in more / better players
Those who don't want Jumbotrons want the Cubs to have a competitive disadvantage.
I don't get more, unless you expect them to use the money to add more minor league
teams, and even then I don't think the Cubs problem is a shortage in quantity of players.
I don't really like jumbotrons. I find them annoying and distracting. I also don't think one
would ruin Wrigley. It wouldn't change a thing for me as far as attending/watching games,
but all things being equal I'd rather not have one. It's the same thing as that green screen
behind home plate. Aesthetically I'd rather it wasn't there. But, I know it's worth a ton of
revenue and I'm not so egocentric to let it upset me it's there.
It's the Rickett's money/investment. I don't expect them not to install a jumbotron because
I'm not a proponent on the whole thing. But I also think it's naive at best to assume that
getting one would immediately result in a better team. Spending the money they already
spend better would go a lot further than tossing some more money in the fire, and what's
to keep them from using that revenue to pay down debt or buy platinum tiarras instead of
adding to payroll?
Claiming that a jumbotron will automagically result in a better team and everyone against it is
anti-Cubs baseball is very political style thinking. It's the polar opposite side of the issue as the
"it'll ruin the Wrigley Field Experience and history and society" camp. There's plenty of space in
the middle for rational opinions.
Quote from: Pre on March 07, 2010, 03:33:53 PM
Claiming that a jumbotron will automagically result in a better team and everyone against it is
anti-Cubs baseball is very political style thinking. It's the polar opposite side of the issue as the
"it'll ruin the Wrigley Field Experience and history and society" camp. There's plenty of space in
the middle for rational opinions.
Actually, there isn't. Revenue is the name of the game. It's why the Yankees have won so many titles.
The only way a Jumbotron is a negative is if it makes more people give up their seats due to "annoyance from change in aesthetics" than the screen brings in.
I won't categorically state that more revenues will bring in better players, but it's very clear the Cubs budget is currently frozen at $144 million right now. The only way the Ricketts are going to sign off on more good players right now is to trade away expensive ones and use the savings. Hell, they nixed Chan Ho Park, not because Park's not very good, but because they wouldn't sign off on a $1.2mm performance bonus.
If you want the Cubs to have the best opportunity to get better, you want to see them maximize the revenue.
In my book, even if that means Motorola Presents New Wrigley in Arlington Heights, so be it.
(http://foucault.info/documents/img/notapipe/Magritte-pipe.jpg)
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 07, 2010, 08:10:15 PM
Actually, there isn't. Revenue is the name of the game. It's why the Yankees have won so many titles.
The only way a Jumbotron is a negative is if it makes more people give up their seats due to "annoyance from change in aesthetics" than the screen brings in.
Smartly applied revenue, sure. While the money is a big part of the Yankees success, it's not all of it.
There's plenty of teams spending huge amounts of money (comparatively) and getting next to nothing
out of it (http://www.bizofbaseball.com/docs/FinalPayrollbyYear_MLB.pdf). You should preach this more than anyone on here with your Soriano hate. It's
awesome to get another $20 million in payroll, but it's not so awesome if they use it to give Gary
Sheffield a 6 year/$134 million no-trade-clause deal. The Mets sure as hell aren't getting anything
out of their top 3 payrolls.
If you want to look at this from a purely economics standpoint for the Cubs, those Wrigley Field
Experience (tm) fans that we all hate are legion, and they are also a lot more fickle then we are.
A major change like that does have the capacity to drive those douche bags away. The Cubs
massive popularity sure as shit isn't because of a history of winning baseball. If you want to
maximize the long term value of the Cubs franchise, you want to keep those fuck faces on the
bandwagon buying all kinds of Ron Santo memorabilia. I know a jumbotron is worth big money
($30 mil a year was an estimate I heard), but those are things you have to balance.
That said, I'm just a Cubs fan. If I had it my way the Rickets would spend $500 million a year in
payroll and they would spend $2.7 billion dollars to rebuild a perfect classic style field with
spotless abundant restrooms, $1 rum and cokes, and a gluten free diet. And they would buy
out all those crabby old people out of Wrigleyville that bitch all the time, and burn down
The CubbyBear on principal.
They aren't going to do that, just like I'm not going to bid $200,000 for some CBOE auction
season tickets, spend $60 in concessions each game, buy an official batting practice hat and
Theriot jersey like they want me to.
I don't begrudge them a jumbo-tron, but I sure as hell don't want one. If they introduced a
double platinum level for all the good games would you be super happy for more revenue? If
they made you stand in a foyer and watch 3 minutes of commercials when you entered the
stadium would you be thrilled? As much as we decry the Wrigley Field Experience (me all the
time), I would rather spend the day at the ballpark then most anywhere else. And I'd like
that time to be as enjoyable as it can be and I don't believe the Cubs problems can be
solved with a marginal increase in revenue.
Quote from: Wheezer on March 07, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
(http://foucault.info/documents/img/notapipe/Magritte-pipe.jpg)
Thank you.
Quote from: Yeti on March 07, 2010, 11:03:03 AM
Ryan Theriot is dumb (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0307-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100306,0,5390838.story)
QuoteRyan Theriot was in the minority. Theriot believes a Jumbotron could change the ballpark forever, adding extraneous noise, doughnut races and a "Kiss Cam."
"If you're going to do that, you might as well change the whole park and modernize everything," Theriot said. "The way it is now is the way it's been for years, and the way it's meant to be, so you might as well leave it the way it is. I know things change and times change, but from a historical standpoint, that Wrigley vibe, that feel ... a Jumbotron would change everything."
How dare the Cubs do something that would change everything! They might actually *gasp* win a world series if they change everything. BLEED GRIZZLY PINK
Whatshisname deleted it or something. I was planning on rocking that thing every once in a while.
Al Yellon is against a jumbotron, which makes me for it. I hope they mount it in the back row of the left field bleachers right next to the foul pole.
Quote from: Andy on March 07, 2010, 11:08:09 PM
Al Yellon is against a jumbotron, which makes me for it. I hope they mount it in the back row of the left field bleachers right next to the foul pole.
And use it to broadcast Twitter messages.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 07, 2010, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: Andy on March 07, 2010, 11:08:09 PM
Al Yellon is against a jumbotron, which makes me for it. I hope they mount it in the back row of the left field bleachers right next to the foul pole.
And use it to broadcast Twitter messages.
RE: Jumbotrons
I'm sorry for using an LSU baseball analogy here, but it's kind of my thing and it actually fits the argument for jumbotrons, in a meatheaded simpleton's viewpoint. At the old Alex Box Stadium, there was no jumbotron. It sucked when something awesome happened and there was no way to recall it or view it again because of the old park's lack of a jumbotron. New Alex Box Stadium is just over a year old and I went to a game yesterday and it has a fancy schmancy jumbotron. Eureka! Finally, we can relive diving outfield grabs and homeruns and close plays at the plate and borderline ball/strike calls.
My point being is that at the old park, I can always remember saying to myself that it sucked that I couldn't see the replay of the previous play. With a jumbotron, it's convenient to see what just happened in slow motion. It doesn't really solve anything on the field. It doesn't reverse calls. It's just nice to have.
I just realized I may have not helped at all. Status quo!
Quote from: Andy on March 07, 2010, 11:08:09 PM
Al Yellon is against a jumbotron, which makes me for it.
I didn't give a shit one way or the other until this. Now they can't put the damn thing up fast enough for my liking.
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 07:48:10 AM
Quote from: Andy on March 07, 2010, 11:08:09 PM
Al Yellon is against a jumbotron, which makes me for it.
I didn't give a shit one way or the other until this. Now they can't put the damn thing up fast enough for my liking.
I hope they put up two of them.
Quote from: MAD on March 07, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Just so all of the misguided romantic nitwits are clear, Wrigley Field as it "originally" was would have been indistinguishable from Wrigley Field in 1990, let alone today. The sentiment that the "structural integrity" or the "charm" or the "history" needs to remain as it has always (falsely) been-- a notion harbored not only by the shut-ins at BCB but pretty much everywhere--needs to wither and die. I used to care about jumbotrons, but I couldn't give a fuck anymore.
Let's see:
They did all kinds of work when Wrigley bought the team from Weeghman. Redid the outfield at least 3 times culminating in the bleacher configuration of 1937.
Added the upper deck in 1927 and 1928.
Redid the seating in the early 1960s and again in the early 1980s when TribCo bought the park.
Installed concrete panels in the 1970s.
Put an electronic marquee up in the early 1980s.
Put an electronic board under the CF scoreboard when TribCo bought the aprk.
Put Budweiser billboards alongside the electronic board under the scoreboard in 1982.
Installed football press box sometime in the 1940s.
Put in electronic scoreboard on LF upperdeck sometime in 1960s.
Renvovated baseball press box in the early 1970s and converted old football press box into an owner's box. Dallas Green used to hang out up there and he'd pace wildly, and be visibly upset when things went bad.
Installed lights in 1988.
Opened two restaurants (Sheffield Grill and Friendly Confines Cafe) and gift shop in early 1980s.
Renovated dugouts in early 80s.
Built new clubhouses in early 80s.
Installed seats in LF and RF between foul poles and bleachers to accommodate groups (RF) and teetotalers (LF).
Installed skyboxes and built new press box in time for 1989. Also renovated a concession area in upper deck.
Put in TVs and scoreboards in the terrace section to accommodate those whose views were further obstructed.
Took away several feet of foul territory to add seats in 2005.
Redid the bleachers in 2006, adding seats the knothole, etc.
Added LCD displays along both foul lines in 2004 or so.
Replaced bleacher electronic board with more modern LCD display in 2004 or so.
Put in out of town scoreboards in upper deck in early 2000s.
Added "Captain Morgan Club" last year.
Put cartoonish "Hey Hey" on foul poles in 1998, same year they put cartoonish Harry Caray likeness over TV booth.
Saw the neighborhood change dramatically. Christ, Mike talks about 1990 to now. Holy crap, the difference in atmosphere for a Cubs game from 1990 until now is night and day. 1982 until 1990, it changed dramatically as well.
If you went to Wrigley in 1965 and came back in 1981, it would be very similar. If you went to a Cub game in 1981 and came back in 1989, you'd barely recognize the place. If you went to a Cub game in 1981 and didn't return until 2008, you'd hardly recognize it (least of all, the team on the field).
Ricketts will be talking new stadium within the decade.
(mutters to self)
distinguishable, you idiot. DISTINGUISHABLE.
Quote from: Brownie on March 08, 2010, 09:14:55 AM
Ricketts will be talking new stadium within the decade.
Either that or a previously-unheard of PSL for an existing stadium for major structural upgrades.
Quote from: Brownie on March 08, 2010, 09:14:55 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 07, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Just so all of the misguided romantic nitwits are clear, Wrigley Field as it "originally" was would have been indistinguishable from Wrigley Field in 1990, let alone today. The sentiment that the "structural integrity" or the "charm" or the "history" needs to remain as it has always (falsely) been-- a notion harbored not only by the shut-ins at BCB but pretty much everywhere--needs to wither and die. I used to care about jumbotrons, but I couldn't give a fuck anymore.
Let's see:
They did all kinds of work when Wrigley bought the team from Weeghman. Redid the outfield at least 3 times culminating in the bleacher configuration of 1937.
Added the upper deck in 1927 and 1928.
Redid the seating in the early 1960s and again in the early 1980s when TribCo bought the park.
Installed concrete panels in the 1970s.
Put an electronic marquee up in the early 1980s.
Put an electronic board under the CF scoreboard when TribCo bought the aprk.
Put Budweiser billboards alongside the electronic board under the scoreboard in 1982.
Installed football press box sometime in the 1940s.
Put in electronic scoreboard on LF upperdeck sometime in 1960s.
Renvovated baseball press box in the early 1970s and converted old football press box into an owner's box. Dallas Green used to hang out up there and he'd pace wildly, and be visibly upset when things went bad.
Installed lights in 1988.
Opened two restaurants (Sheffield Grill and Friendly Confines Cafe) and gift shop in early 1980s.
Renovated dugouts in early 80s.
Built new clubhouses in early 80s.
Installed seats in LF and RF between foul poles and bleachers to accommodate groups (RF) and teetotalers (LF).
Installed skyboxes and built new press box in time for 1989. Also renovated a concession area in upper deck.
Put in TVs and scoreboards in the terrace section to accommodate those whose views were further obstructed.
Took away several feet of foul territory to add seats in 2005.
Redid the bleachers in 2006, adding seats the knothole, etc.
Added LCD displays along both foul lines in 2004 or so.
Replaced bleacher electronic board with more modern LCD display in 2004 or so.
Put in out of town scoreboards in upper deck in early 2000s.
Added "Captain Morgan Club" last year.
Put cartoonish "Hey Hey" on foul poles in 1998, same year they put cartoonish Harry Caray likeness over TV booth.
Saw the neighborhood change dramatically. Christ, Mike talks about 1990 to now. Holy crap, the difference in atmosphere for a Cubs game from 1990 until now is night and day. 1982 until 1990, it changed dramatically as well.
If you went to Wrigley in 1965 and came back in 1981, it would be very similar. If you went to a Cub game in 1981 and came back in 1989, you'd barely recognize the place. If you went to a Cub game in 1981 and didn't return until 2008, you'd hardly recognize it (least of all, the team on the field).
Ricketts will be talking new stadium within the decade.
I used to take a streetcar to get to Wrigley. Where the hell did they go?
The only thing that has been consistent with this fucking ballpark since the day it opened it is the fact that World Championships have been celebrated elsewhere.
Put a fucking TGI Friday's in the bleachers for all I care.
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
The only thing that has been consistent with this fucking ballpark since the day it opened it is the fact that World Championships have been celebrated elsewhere.
Put a fucking TGI Friday's in the bleachers for all I care.
Oh, there've been a few champs seen at Wrigley.
1932 - Wrigley Field sees Yankees win World Series
1945 - Wrigley Field sees Tigers win World Series
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
The only thing that has been consistent with this fucking ballpark since the day it opened it is the fact that World Championships have been celebrated elsewhere.
Not true!
(http://store.chicagobears.com/assets/item/large/bears_1963_championship_plaque.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~naslpics/teampics/81_sting.jpg)
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
The only thing that has been consistent with this fucking ballpark since the day it opened it is the fact that World Championships have been celebrated elsewhere.
Put a fucking TGI Friday's TJ Slaky's in the bleachers for all I care.
Lake County hot-tubber'd
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
The only thing that has been consistent with this fucking ballpark since the day it opened it is the fact that World Championships have been celebrated elsewhere.
Put a fucking TGI Friday's TJ Slaky's in the bleachers for all I care.
Lake County hot-tubber'd
TJ Slaky's-Wrigleyville will have all the amenities of the original TJ Slaky's-Vernon Hills, but tomatoes for your bologna sandwiches are $2.50 extra.
Quote from: Brownie on March 08, 2010, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 08, 2010, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
The only thing that has been consistent with this fucking ballpark since the day it opened it is the fact that World Championships have been celebrated elsewhere.
Put a fucking TGI Friday's TJ Slaky's in the bleachers for all I care.
Lake County hot-tubber'd
TJ Slaky's-Wrigleyville will have all the amenities of the original TJ Slaky's-Vernon Hills, but tomatoes for your bologna sandwiches are $2.50 extra.
Well, as long as that $2.50 goes to on-field improvements...
Quote from: Brownie on March 08, 2010, 09:14:55 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 07, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Just so all of the misguided romantic nitwits are clear, Wrigley Field as it "originally" was would have been indistinguishable from Wrigley Field in 1990, let alone today. The sentiment that the "structural integrity" or the "charm" or the "history" needs to remain as it has always (falsely) been-- a notion harbored not only by the shut-ins at BCB but pretty much everywhere--needs to wither and die. I used to care about jumbotrons, but I couldn't give a fuck anymore.
Let's see:
They did all kinds of work when Wrigley bought the team from Weeghman. Redid the outfield at least 3 times culminating in the bleacher configuration of 1937.
Added the upper deck in 1927 and 1928.
Redid the seating in the early 1960s and again in the early 1980s when TribCo bought the park.
Installed concrete panels in the 1970s.
Put an electronic marquee up in the early 1980s.
Put an electronic board under the CF scoreboard when TribCo bought the aprk.
Put Budweiser billboards alongside the electronic board under the scoreboard in 1982.
Installed football press box sometime in the 1940s.
Put in electronic scoreboard on LF upperdeck sometime in 1960s.
Renvovated baseball press box in the early 1970s and converted old football press box into an owner's box. Dallas Green used to hang out up there and he'd pace wildly, and be visibly upset when things went bad.
Installed lights in 1988.
Opened two restaurants (Sheffield Grill and Friendly Confines Cafe) and gift shop in early 1980s.
Renovated dugouts in early 80s.
Built new clubhouses in early 80s.
Installed seats in LF and RF between foul poles and bleachers to accommodate groups (RF) and teetotalers (LF).
Installed skyboxes and built new press box in time for 1989. Also renovated a concession area in upper deck.
Put in TVs and scoreboards in the terrace section to accommodate those whose views were further obstructed.
Took away several feet of foul territory to add seats in 2005.
Redid the bleachers in 2006, adding seats the knothole, etc.
Added LCD displays along both foul lines in 2004 or so.
Replaced bleacher electronic board with more modern LCD display in 2004 or so.
Put in out of town scoreboards in upper deck in early 2000s.
Added "Captain Morgan Club" last year.
Put cartoonish "Hey Hey" on foul poles in 1998, same year they put cartoonish Harry Caray likeness over TV booth.
Saw the neighborhood change dramatically. Christ, Mike talks about 1990 to now. Holy crap, the difference in atmosphere for a Cubs game from 1990 until now is night and day. 1982 until 1990, it changed dramatically as well.
If you went to Wrigley in 1965 and came back in 1981, it would be very similar. If you went to a Cub game in 1981 and came back in 1989, you'd barely recognize the place. If you went to a Cub game in 1981 and didn't return until 2008, you'd hardly recognize it (least of all, the team on the field).
Ricketts will be talking new stadium within the decade.
Did you just type all that from memory? You and Mike Dictionary need to get brain scans done so we can compare them to this:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/RottenFoxBreath/Raiders_Of_The_Lost_Ark_Government_.jpg)
TOP men are working on it.
I'm uncomfortable with this.... Jewish.... ritual.
Quote from: Brownie on March 08, 2010, 09:33:57 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
The only thing that has been consistent with this fucking ballpark since the day it opened it is the fact that World Championships have been celebrated elsewhere.
Not true!
(http://home.att.net/~naslpics/teampics/81_sting.jpg)
Best thing about Der Schting (other than Marilyn Lange) playing in Wrigley was scrounging up ticket stubs to take to Laschet's Inn for a free pitcher.
15-year-old winners were we.
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 11:04:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 08, 2010, 09:33:57 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 08, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
The only thing that has been consistent with this fucking ballpark since the day it opened it is the fact that World Championships have been celebrated elsewhere.
Not true!
(http://home.att.net/~naslpics/teampics/81_sting.jpg)
Best thing about Der Schting (other than Marilyn Lange) playing in Wrigley was scrounging up ticket stubs to take to Laschet's Inn for a free pitcher.
15-year-old winners were we.
Karl Heinz-Granitza was the balls.
Quote from: fiveouts on March 08, 2010, 02:15:51 PM
Karl Heinz-Granitza was the balls.
Bah. He had more to do with the '84 champs than the '81 champs, which was all Pato Margetic, mang.
Did anyone ever eat an Ovaltine Crunch Bar? Sounds phenomenal.
This thread was off to a horrible start. Then soccer happened. But that team photo is pretty awesome.
Quote from: JD on March 07, 2010, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 07, 2010, 11:03:03 AM
Ryan Theriot is dumb (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0307-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100306,0,5390838.story)
QuoteRyan Theriot was in the minority. Theriot believes a Jumbotron could change the ballpark forever, adding extraneous noise, doughnut races and a "Kiss Cam."
"If you're going to do that, you might as well change the whole park and modernize everything," Theriot said. "The way it is now is the way it's been for years, and the way it's meant to be, so you might as well leave it the way it is. I know things change and times change, but from a historical standpoint, that Wrigley vibe, that feel ... a Jumbotron would change everything."
How dare the Cubs do something that would change everything! They might actually *gasp* win a world series if they change everything. BLEED GRIZZLY PINK
Whatshisname deleted it or something. I was planning on rocking that thing every once in a while.
I most certainly did not.
http://bleedgrizzlypink.blogspot.com/
I love baseball season. (http://www.youtube.com/v/MSadtke3w2A&hl=en_US&fs=1&hd=1)
Quote from: Jon on March 08, 2010, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: JD on March 07, 2010, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 07, 2010, 11:03:03 AM
Ryan Theriot is dumb (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0307-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100306,0,5390838.story)
QuoteRyan Theriot was in the minority. Theriot believes a Jumbotron could change the ballpark forever, adding extraneous noise, doughnut races and a "Kiss Cam."
"If you're going to do that, you might as well change the whole park and modernize everything," Theriot said. "The way it is now is the way it's been for years, and the way it's meant to be, so you might as well leave it the way it is. I know things change and times change, but from a historical standpoint, that Wrigley vibe, that feel ... a Jumbotron would change everything."
How dare the Cubs do something that would change everything! They might actually *gasp* win a world series if they change everything. BLEED GRIZZLY PINK
Whatshisname deleted it or something. I was planning on rocking that thing every once in a while.
I most certainly did not.
http://bleedgrizzlypink.blogspot.com/
That's weird. I tried going there not long henceforth back when and found it, not. Now, could you put up what I was gonna write, please. I was quite tickled about it.
Quote from: JD on March 08, 2010, 09:47:14 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 08, 2010, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: JD on March 07, 2010, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 07, 2010, 11:03:03 AM
Ryan Theriot is dumb (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0307-cubs-chicago-spring-training-20100306,0,5390838.story)
QuoteRyan Theriot was in the minority. Theriot believes a Jumbotron could change the ballpark forever, adding extraneous noise, doughnut races and a "Kiss Cam."
"If you're going to do that, you might as well change the whole park and modernize everything," Theriot said. "The way it is now is the way it's been for years, and the way it's meant to be, so you might as well leave it the way it is. I know things change and times change, but from a historical standpoint, that Wrigley vibe, that feel ... a Jumbotron would change everything."
How dare the Cubs do something that would change everything! They might actually *gasp* win a world series if they change everything. BLEED GRIZZLY PINK
Whatshisname deleted it or something. I was planning on rocking that thing every once in a while.
I most certainly did not.
http://bleedgrizzlypink.blogspot.com/
That's weird. I tried going there not long henceforth back when and found it, not. Now, could you put up what I was gonna write, please. I was quite tickled about it.
I did. But then I accidentally deleted it and replaced it with the oddest goddamn blog I have ever been connected to.
Quote from: Pre on March 08, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
I love baseball season. (http://www.youtube.com/v/MSadtke3w2A&hl=en_US&fs=1&hd=1)
It went from Brick to Harry and then straight to Len, completely bypassing that dark period between 1998 and 2005. Ha.
Up yours, Chip, you animatronic douche.
Quote from: MAD on March 08, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 08, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
I love baseball season. (http://www.youtube.com/v/MSadtke3w2A&hl=en_US&fs=1&hd=1)
It went from Brick to Harry and then straight to Len, completely bypassing that dark period between 1998 and 2005. Ha.
Up yours, Chip, you animatronic douche.
Good catch - that's a +1 for the marketing team at WGN.
Quote from: MAD on March 08, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 08, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
I love baseball season. (http://www.youtube.com/v/MSadtke3w2A&hl=en_US&fs=1&hd=1)
It went from Brick to Harry and then straight to Len, completely bypassing that dark period between 1998 and 2005. Ha.
Up yours, Chip, you animatronic douche.
Hearing Len gave me a boner for April 9th
Quote from: MAD on March 08, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 08, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
I love baseball season. (http://www.youtube.com/v/MSadtke3w2A&hl=en_US&fs=1&hd=1)
It went from Brick to Harry and then straight to Len, completely bypassing that dark period between 1998 and 2005. Ha.
Up yours, Chip, you animatronic douche.
Nice use of your HUESPERGER'S.
But that
is awesome.
That made me go look for the youtube clip of Len & Pat's calls of Ramirez's walk-off against Milwaukee in 07 but I can't find it.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 09, 2010, 10:47:32 AM
That made me go look for the youtube clip of Len & Pat's calls of Ramirez's walk-off against Milwaukee in 07 but I can't find it.
WHOA, BABY!
It's easy to be optimistic about baseball season with a promo like that. Because it doesn't actually show any Cubs in it.
The similar one for the Sox is hilarious. When they get to the Hawk years, if you didn't know already, you would have absolutely no clue what sport is being played.
I don't know why I care about this shit but with the collection of no-talent assclowns they've brought in to audition for bench spots I'm curious as to why the Cubs didn't take a flyer on Hank Blalock. He just signed a minor league deal with the Rays.
He worked with Jaramillo in Texas and he's sure as shit better than Kevin Fucking Millar.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 09:32:09 AM
I don't know why I care about this shit but with the collection of no-talent assclowns they've brought in to audition for bench spots I'm curious as to why the Cubs didn't take a flyer on Hank Blalock. He just signed a minor league deal with the Rays.
He worked with Jaramillo in Texas and he's sure as shit better than Kevin Fucking Millar.
I think the difference is that Blalock is not a total piece of shit (which is your very accurate point),
so he wants to sign on for a team that he thinks he has a shot of getting some reasonable ABs
and hopefully put up some numbers and get a real deal for next year. The Cubs are set at 1B,
no DH, and Blalock is probably a liability at 3B at this point even if he did want to wait around for
Aramis' mid-season vacation. So he's signing onto an AL team and hoping he can hit enough to
get some playing time.
Millar, being at best a AAA player at this point, realized that he had no chance in earning a spot
anywhere and went with the best fit for him: an organization dumb enough to waste roster
spots on David Patton, Ryan Freel, Joey Gathwright, So Taguchi, and Chad Fox and maybe, just
maybe (aka - most likely), dumb enough to waste one on him.
Quote from: Pre on March 10, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 09:32:09 AM
I don't know why I care about this shit but with the collection of no-talent assclowns they've brought in to audition for bench spots I'm curious as to why the Cubs didn't take a flyer on Hank Blalock. He just signed a minor league deal with the Rays.
He worked with Jaramillo in Texas and he's sure as shit better than Kevin Fucking Millar.
I think the difference is that Blalock is not a total piece of shit (which is your very accurate point),
so he wants to sign on for a team that he thinks he has a shot of getting some reasonable ABs
and hopefully put up some numbers and get a real deal for next year. The Cubs are set at 1B,
no DH, and Blalock is probably a liability at 3B at this point even if he did want to wait around for
Aramis' mid-season vacation. So he's signing onto an AL team and hoping he can hit enough to
get some playing time.
Millar, being at best a AAA player at this point, realized that he had no chance in earning a spot
anywhere and went with the best fit for him: an organization dumb enough to waste roster
spots on David Patton, Ryan Freel, Joey Gathwright, So Taguchi, and Chad Fox and maybe, just
maybe (aka - most likely), dumb enough to waste one on him.
Plus, coming off the Milton Debacle, Millar probably saw a team (or a GM, more specifically) intent on "Chemistry" and thought he could just personality his way onto the team.
Quote from: Pre on March 10, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 09:32:09 AM
I don't know why I care about this shit but with the collection of no-talent assclowns they've brought in to audition for bench spots I'm curious as to why the Cubs didn't take a flyer on Hank Blalock. He just signed a minor league deal with the Rays.
He worked with Jaramillo in Texas and he's sure as shit better than Kevin Fucking Millar.
I think the difference is that Blalock is not a total piece of shit (which is your very accurate point),
so he wants to sign on for a team that he thinks he has a shot of getting some reasonable ABs
and hopefully put up some numbers and get a real deal for next year. The Cubs are set at 1B,
no DH, and Blalock is probably a liability at 3B at this point even if he did want to wait around for
Aramis' mid-season vacation. So he's signing onto an AL team and hoping he can hit enough to
get some playing time.
Millar, being at best a AAA player at this point, realized that he had no chance in earning a spot
anywhere and went with the best fit for him: an organization dumb enough to waste roster
spots on David Patton, Ryan Freel, Joey Gathwright, So Taguchi, and Chad Fox and maybe, just
maybe (aka - most likely), dumb enough to waste one on him.
Yeah, that all makes sense. He's definitely got more left in the tank that Millar. Plus the dude can rake if he gets his shit together. I just figured he'd have a better chance of doing that working with Rudy.
Plus I don't think he'd be any more of a liability at 3rd than Millar would be at 1st though and Blalock right now is a better pinch-hitting option than any of the guys they've got in camp.
Blalock's deal with the Rays has an out if he doesn't make the Opening Day roster.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 10, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 09:32:09 AM
I don't know why I care about this shit but with the collection of no-talent assclowns they've brought in to audition for bench spots I'm curious as to why the Cubs didn't take a flyer on Hank Blalock. He just signed a minor league deal with the Rays.
He worked with Jaramillo in Texas and he's sure as shit better than Kevin Fucking Millar.
I think the difference is that Blalock is not a total piece of shit (which is your very accurate point),
so he wants to sign on for a team that he thinks he has a shot of getting some reasonable ABs
and hopefully put up some numbers and get a real deal for next year. The Cubs are set at 1B,
no DH, and Blalock is probably a liability at 3B at this point even if he did want to wait around for
Aramis' mid-season vacation. So he's signing onto an AL team and hoping he can hit enough to
get some playing time.
Millar, being at best a AAA player at this point, realized that he had no chance in earning a spot
anywhere and went with the best fit for him: an organization dumb enough to waste roster
spots on David Patton, Ryan Freel, Joey Gathwright, So Taguchi, and Chad Fox and maybe, just
maybe (aka - most likely), dumb enough to waste one on him.
Yeah, that all makes sense. He's definitely got more left in the tank that Millar. Plus the dude can rake if he gets his shit together. I just figured he'd have a better chance of doing that working with Rudy.
Plus I don't think he'd be any more of a liability at 3rd than Millar would be at 1st though and Blalock right now is a better pinch-hitting option than any of the guys they've got in camp.
I think Chad Tracy, rather than Millar is really more of the Blalock-block.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 10, 2010, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 10, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 09:32:09 AM
I don't know why I care about this shit but with the collection of no-talent assclowns they've brought in to audition for bench spots I'm curious as to why the Cubs didn't take a flyer on Hank Blalock. He just signed a minor league deal with the Rays.
He worked with Jaramillo in Texas and he's sure as shit better than Kevin Fucking Millar.
I think the difference is that Blalock is not a total piece of shit (which is your very accurate point),
so he wants to sign on for a team that he thinks he has a shot of getting some reasonable ABs
and hopefully put up some numbers and get a real deal for next year. The Cubs are set at 1B,
no DH, and Blalock is probably a liability at 3B at this point even if he did want to wait around for
Aramis' mid-season vacation. So he's signing onto an AL team and hoping he can hit enough to
get some playing time.
Millar, being at best a AAA player at this point, realized that he had no chance in earning a spot
anywhere and went with the best fit for him: an organization dumb enough to waste roster
spots on David Patton, Ryan Freel, Joey Gathwright, So Taguchi, and Chad Fox and maybe, just
maybe (aka - most likely), dumb enough to waste one on him.
Yeah, that all makes sense. He's definitely got more left in the tank that Millar. Plus the dude can rake if he gets his shit together. I just figured he'd have a better chance of doing that working with Rudy.
Plus I don't think he'd be any more of a liability at 3rd than Millar would be at 1st though and Blalock right now is a better pinch-hitting option than any of the guys they've got in camp.
I think Chad Tracy, rather than Millar is really more of the Blalock-block.
Chad sucks
Quote from: Yeti on March 10, 2010, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 10, 2010, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 10, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 09:32:09 AM
I don't know why I care about this shit but with the collection of no-talent assclowns they've brought in to audition for bench spots I'm curious as to why the Cubs didn't take a flyer on Hank Blalock. He just signed a minor league deal with the Rays.
He worked with Jaramillo in Texas and he's sure as shit better than Kevin Fucking Millar.
I think the difference is that Blalock is not a total piece of shit (which is your very accurate point),
so he wants to sign on for a team that he thinks he has a shot of getting some reasonable ABs
and hopefully put up some numbers and get a real deal for next year. The Cubs are set at 1B,
no DH, and Blalock is probably a liability at 3B at this point even if he did want to wait around for
Aramis' mid-season vacation. So he's signing onto an AL team and hoping he can hit enough to
get some playing time.
Millar, being at best a AAA player at this point, realized that he had no chance in earning a spot
anywhere and went with the best fit for him: an organization dumb enough to waste roster
spots on David Patton, Ryan Freel, Joey Gathwright, So Taguchi, and Chad Fox and maybe, just
maybe (aka - most likely), dumb enough to waste one on him.
Yeah, that all makes sense. He's definitely got more left in the tank that Millar. Plus the dude can rake if he gets his shit together. I just figured he'd have a better chance of doing that working with Rudy.
Plus I don't think he'd be any more of a liability at 3rd than Millar would be at 1st though and Blalock right now is a better pinch-hitting option than any of the guys they've got in camp.
I think Chad Tracy, rather than Millar is really more of the Blalock-block.
Chad sucks
I don't think anyone is arguing that he doesn't.
Blalock is a broken player at this point.
With Kevin Millar, its slump busters for everybody!
Quote from: MAD on March 08, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 08, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
I love baseball season. (http://www.youtube.com/v/MSadtke3w2A&hl=en_US&fs=1&hd=1)
It went from Brick to Harry and then straight to Len, completely bypassing that dark period between 1998 and 2005. Ha.
Up yours, Chip, you animatronic douche.
Don't be such a Dancy Dan, you Irish prick.
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Wednesday that Xavier Nady (elbow) won't be ready for regular outfield duty until June.
Nady is slowly forging his way back from Tommy John surgery. He made his spring debut on Wednesday afternoon, but was limited to DH duties and is likely to stick to the limited role for the next few weeks. He will be used primarily as a pinch-hitter over the regular season's first few months."
Via Rotoworld.
I haven't been on the up an up on the Cubs much this Spring, so it's news to me that Nady won't be ready for "regular duty" until June.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Wednesday that Xavier Nady (elbow) won't be ready for regular outfield duty until June.
Nady is slowly forging his way back from Tommy John surgery. He made his spring debut on Wednesday afternoon, but was limited to DH duties and is likely to stick to the limited role for the next few weeks. He will be used primarily as a pinch-hitter over the regular season's first few months."
Via Rotoworld.
I haven't been on the up an up on the Cubs much this Spring, so it's news to me that Nady won't be ready for "regular duty" until June.
Sounds like he's going to be really useful taking up a roster spot.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 11, 2010, 08:19:23 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Wednesday that Xavier Nady (elbow) won't be ready for regular outfield duty until June.
Nady is slowly forging his way back from Tommy John surgery. He made his spring debut on Wednesday afternoon, but was limited to DH duties and is likely to stick to the limited role for the next few weeks. He will be used primarily as a pinch-hitter over the regular season's first few months."
Via Rotoworld.
I haven't been on the up an up on the Cubs much this Spring, so it's news to me that Nady won't be ready for "regular duty" until June.
Sounds like he's going to be really useful taking up a roster spot.
Somebody's gotta be this season's David Patton or Joey Gathwright.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 11, 2010, 08:19:23 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Wednesday that Xavier Nady (elbow) won't be ready for regular outfield duty until June.
Nady is slowly forging his way back from Tommy John surgery. He made his spring debut on Wednesday afternoon, but was limited to DH duties and is likely to stick to the limited role for the next few weeks. He will be used primarily as a pinch-hitter over the regular season's first few months."
Via Rotoworld.
I haven't been on the up an up on the Cubs much this Spring, so it's news to me that Nady won't be ready for "regular duty" until June.
Sounds like he's going to be really useful taking up a roster spot.
So Fukudome will be flailing away against lefties for the first couple months of the season. Sweet.
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 11, 2010, 08:32:12 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Wednesday that Xavier Nady (elbow) won't be ready for regular outfield duty until June.
Nady is slowly forging his way back from Tommy John surgery. He made his spring debut on Wednesday afternoon, but was limited to DH duties and is likely to stick to the limited role for the next few weeks. He will be used primarily as a pinch-hitter over the regular season's first few months."
Via Rotoworld.
I haven't been on the up an up on the Cubs much this Spring, so it's news to me that Nady won't be ready for "regular duty" until June.
Sounds like he's going to be really useful taking up a roster spot.
Somebody's gotta be this season's David Patton or Joey Gathwright.
Except that I would argue that Xavier Nady is actually way better at baseball than those two. Does this mean they'll keep him on the 25-man roster and use him sparingly? Why not let him be 50% in Iowa or something?
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Wednesday that Xavier Nady (elbow) won't be ready for regular outfield duty until June.
Nady is slowly forging his way back from Tommy John surgery. He made his spring debut on Wednesday afternoon, but was limited to DH duties and is likely to stick to the limited role for the next few weeks. He will be used primarily as a pinch-hitter over the regular season's first few months."
Via Rotoworld.
I haven't been on the up an up on the Cubs much this Spring, so it's news to me that Nady won't be ready for "regular duty" until June.
Sounds like he's going to be really useful taking up a roster spot.
Somebody's gotta be this season's David Patton or Joey Gathwright.
Except that I would argue that Xavier Nady is actually way better at baseball than those two. Does this mean they'll keep him on the 25-man roster and use him sparingly? Why not let him be 50% in Iowa or something?
Nady is terrible. The fact that he can't throw the ball in from the outfield makes him worse than terrible. He's the Yeti of the Cubs.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 11, 2010, 08:44:22 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Wednesday that Xavier Nady (elbow) won't be ready for regular outfield duty until June.
Nady is slowly forging his way back from Tommy John surgery. He made his spring debut on Wednesday afternoon, but was limited to DH duties and is likely to stick to the limited role for the next few weeks. He will be used primarily as a pinch-hitter over the regular season's first few months."
Via Rotoworld.
I haven't been on the up an up on the Cubs much this Spring, so it's news to me that Nady won't be ready for "regular duty" until June.
Sounds like he's going to be really useful taking up a roster spot.
Somebody's gotta be this season's David Patton or Joey Gathwright.
Except that I would argue that Xavier Nady is actually way better at baseball than those two. Does this mean they'll keep him on the 25-man roster and use him sparingly? Why not let him be 50% in Iowa or something?
Nady is terrible. The fact that he can't throw the ball in from the outfield makes him worse than terrible. He's the Yeti of the Cubs.
They could have done much worse for a fourth outfielder that rakes against right handed pitching to platoon with Fukudome. It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year.
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It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
Quote from: Yeti on March 11, 2010, 09:27:12 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
Eh?
Quote from: Yeti on March 11, 2010, 09:27:12 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Quote from: Eli on March 11, 2010, 10:01:09 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
Quote from: Yeti on March 11, 2010, 10:02:35 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
Yeti, why does everyone hate you now?
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
Yeti, why does everyone hate you now?
Because I've been a dick lately. Royal dick
Quote from: Yeti on March 11, 2010, 10:06:00 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
Yeti, why does everyone hate you now?
Because I've been a dick lately. Royal dick
(http://i41.tinypic.com/6f7gk4.jpg)
Quote from: Yeti on March 11, 2010, 10:02:35 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
Well it appears this new Yeti personality is my sleeper team for the highest probability of underachieving. I don't know what the f*** his problem is. He just needs to graze some ass.
Quote from: Yeti on March 11, 2010, 11:56:56 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
Well it appears this new Yeti personality is my sleeper team for the highest probability of underachieving. I don't know what the f*** his problem is. He just needs to graze some ass.
You're a big, fucking loser.
Quote from: Yeti on March 11, 2010, 11:56:56 AM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
Well it appears this new Yeti personality is my sleeper team for the highest probability of underachieving. I don't know what the f*** his problem is. He just needs to graze some ass.
I'm quite amused with the whole thing going on right now. It's the best thing to happen to this site in months. Keep it up.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
Well it appears this new Yeti personality is my sleeper team for the highest probability of underachieving. I don't know what the f*** his problem is. He just needs to graze some ass.
I'm quite amused with the whole thing going on right now. It's the best thing to happen to this site in months. Keep it up.
I always do. Should I see a doctor?
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
Well it appears this new Yeti personality is my sleeper team for the highest probability of underachieving. I don't know what the f*** his problem is. He just needs to graze some ass.
I'm quite amused with the whole thing going on right now. It's the best thing to happen to this site in months. Keep it up.
I always do. Should I see a doctor?
You're raiding Fork's joke jar?
Quote from: CT III on March 11, 2010, 12:34:26 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
Well it appears this new Yeti personality is my sleeper team for the highest probability of underachieving. I don't know what the f*** his problem is. He just needs to graze some ass.
I'm quite amused with the whole thing going on right now. It's the best thing to happen to this site in months. Keep it up.
I always do. Should I see a doctor?
You're raiding Fork's joke jar?
Well, I got my hand stuck in
something.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 11, 2010, 12:25:14 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
Well it appears this new Yeti personality is my sleeper team for the highest probability of underachieving. I don't know what the f*** his problem is. He just needs to graze some ass.
I'm quite amused with the whole thing going on right now. It's the best thing to happen to this site in months. Keep it up.
DANCE FOR ME, MONKEYS.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 11, 2010, 01:22:31 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It appears that RF is all Colvin's next year. Justin Upton's next year
Impending Fontenot trade'd.My destiny in life is to be battered with MikeC's scrote until I finally admit I'm a faggot
truth'd
It was just a joke, Yeti. Take a deep breath.
Shouldn't you be saying that to yourself? Or did you just assume I got all pissed off about that?
That's a pretty good Kurt Evans impression. Let's see you try BC.
Well it appears this new Yeti personality is my sleeper team for the highest probability of underachieving. I don't know what the f*** his problem is. He just needs to graze some ass.
I'm quite amused with the whole thing going on right now. It's the best thing to happen to this site in months. Keep it up.
DANCE FOR ME, MONKEYS.
DANCY DAN
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
It's stupid. That's what I think. Let's take decent teams, put them in the AL Central and take really shitty teams and move them the AL East? That makes a lot of sense. Wouldn't that make the big market teams more likely to dominate?
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
It's stupid. Want to realign?
15 teams per league with 3 divisions per league consisting of five teams each. Schedule as follows:
18 games vs. each divisional opponent, 9 home and 9 away (72 games)
6 games vs. each non-divisional opponent, 3 home and 3 away (60 games)
6 games vs. each team in a single intraleague division, 3 home and 3 away (30 games). Division played to rotate on a 3 year schedule (similar to the NFL schedule)
Total games played: 162
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Regardless of the plan, I like that idea.
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Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
It's stupid. That's what I think. Let's take decent teams, put them in the AL Central and take really shitty teams and move them the AL East? That makes a lot of sense. Wouldn't that make the big market teams more likely to dominate?
Within their own division in the regular season, yes. But it would give a good team like the Rays the chance to move to the AL Central and actually make the playoffs, instead of a shitty White Sox or Tigers team. In other words, YOU'RE stupid.
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
It's brilliant. Put the Yankees, Red Sox, Cardinals, and Mets into one division so only one or two of those asshats makes the postseason each year.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Wednesday that Xavier Nady (elbow) won't be ready for regular outfield duty until June.
Nady is slowly forging his way back from Tommy John surgery. He made his spring debut on Wednesday afternoon, but was limited to DH duties and is likely to stick to the limited role for the next few weeks. He will be used primarily as a pinch-hitter over the regular season's first few months."
Via Rotoworld.
I haven't been on the up an up on the Cubs much this Spring, so it's news to me that Nady won't be ready for "regular duty" until June.
Sounds like he's going to be really useful taking up a roster spot.
Somebody's gotta be this season's David Patton or Joey Gathwright.
Except that I would argue that Xavier Nady is actually way better at baseball than those two. Does this mean they'll keep him on the 25-man roster and use him sparingly? Why not let him be 50% in Iowa or something?
Nady is terrible. The fact that he can't throw the ball in from the outfield makes him worse than terrible. He's the Yeti of the Cubs.
He's still got a better arm than Juan Pierre.
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
Why is this necessary? Didn't Tampa Bay make the World Series two years ago, when they were in the same division as Boston and New York? This is just stupid.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
It's stupid. Want to realign?
15 teams per league with 3 divisions per league consisting of five teams each. Schedule as follows:
18 games vs. each divisional opponent, 9 home and 9 away (72 games)
6 games vs. each non-divisional opponent, 3 home and 3 away (60 games)
6 games vs. each team in a single intraleague division, 3 home and 3 away (30 games). Division played to rotate on a 3 year schedule (similar to the NFL schedule)
Total games played: 162
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Is this really that different from the current schedule?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
Why is this necessary? Didn't Tampa Bay make the World Series two years ago, when they were in the same division as Boston and New York? This is just stupid.
Tampa Bay made the World Series once, therefore the system is fine?
QuoteThe real issue is fairness. Ever since the beginning of divisional play in 1969, postseason play has not necessarily been awarded to teams with the best postseason records, but rather to the teams that ended the year at the top of their division. Famously, the 103-win 1993 Giants tied the NL West, lost a one-game playoff to the Atlanta Braves, and watched the rest of the postseason from home, while the 97-win Philadelphia Phillies won the NL East and went on to win the World Series. The Wild Card was meant to allow a good team in a strong division to make it into the playoffs, but even the Wild Card can't change the fact that the Baltimore Orioles and Toronto Blue Jays are stuck in an essentially unwinnable division, with three strong teams, two of which are the richest teams in the game.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/realignment-shmealignment/
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
Why is this necessary? Didn't Tampa Bay make the World Series two years ago, when they were in the same division as Boston and New York? This is just stupid.
Tampa Bay made the World Series once, therefore the system is fine?
QuoteThe real issue is fairness. Ever since the beginning of divisional play in 1969, postseason play has not necessarily been awarded to teams with the best postseason records, but rather to the teams that ended the year at the top of their division. Famously, the 103-win 1993 Giants tied the NL West, lost a one-game playoff to the Atlanta Braves, and watched the rest of the postseason from home, while the 97-win Philadelphia Phillies won the NL East and went on to win the World Series. The Wild Card was meant to allow a good team in a strong division to make it into the playoffs, but even the Wild Card can't change the fact that the Baltimore Orioles and Toronto Blue Jays are stuck in an essentially unwinnable division, with three strong teams, two of which are the richest teams in the game.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/realignment-shmealignment/
It's still a stupid idea. Give it a rest.
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
Why is this necessary? Didn't Tampa Bay make the World Series two years ago, when they were in the same division as Boston and New York? This is just stupid.
Tampa Bay made the World Series once, therefore the system is fine?
QuoteThe real issue is fairness. Ever since the beginning of divisional play in 1969, postseason play has not necessarily been awarded to teams with the best postseason records, but rather to the teams that ended the year at the top of their division. Famously, the 103-win 1993 Giants tied the NL West, lost a one-game playoff to the Atlanta Braves, and watched the rest of the postseason from home, while the 97-win Philadelphia Phillies won the NL East and went on to win the World Series. The Wild Card was meant to allow a good team in a strong division to make it into the playoffs, but even the Wild Card can't change the fact that the Baltimore Orioles and Toronto Blue Jays are stuck in an essentially unwinnable division, with three strong teams, two of which are the richest teams in the game.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/realignment-shmealignment/
I don't see a problem with it as it stands. Why in the hell do the Blue Jays suck? Because they have been making pretty shitty decisions. Why do the Pirates suck? Because they don't pay their good players. But, really...my main question is what is the necessity?
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 04:12:32 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
It's stupid. Want to realign?
15 teams per league with 3 divisions per league consisting of five teams each. Schedule as follows:
18 games vs. each divisional opponent, 9 home and 9 away (72 games)
6 games vs. each non-divisional opponent, 3 home and 3 away (60 games)
6 games vs. each team in a single intraleague division, 3 home and 3 away (30 games). Division played to rotate on a 3 year schedule (similar to the NFL schedule)
Total games played: 162
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Is this really that different from the current schedule?
Miles. First, there are no more annual regional rivalries where the Cards get 6 games against KC while the Cubs get 6 vs. the White Sox (who, while shitty, aren't as shitty as KC).
Second, there are no divisions with 4 teams or 6 teams.
Third, everyone plays the same schedule. No Cubs play 18 against Houston but only 16 against Pitt as has happened in previous years.
100% Fair and Balanced.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 11, 2010, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Very interesting idea (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/). I like it. What say YOU, Desipiots?
QuoteOne example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
Why is this necessary? Didn't Tampa Bay make the World Series two years ago, when they were in the same division as Boston and New York? This is just stupid.
Tampa Bay made the World Series once, therefore the system is fine?
QuoteThe real issue is fairness. Ever since the beginning of divisional play in 1969, postseason play has not necessarily been awarded to teams with the best postseason records, but rather to the teams that ended the year at the top of their division. Famously, the 103-win 1993 Giants tied the NL West, lost a one-game playoff to the Atlanta Braves, and watched the rest of the postseason from home, while the 97-win Philadelphia Phillies won the NL East and went on to win the World Series. The Wild Card was meant to allow a good team in a strong division to make it into the playoffs, but even the Wild Card can't change the fact that the Baltimore Orioles and Toronto Blue Jays are stuck in an essentially unwinnable division, with three strong teams, two of which are the richest teams in the game.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/realignment-shmealignment/
I don't see a problem with it as it stands. Why in the hell do the Blue Jays suck? Because they have been making pretty shitty decisions. Why do the Pirates suck? Because they don't pay their good players. But, really...my main question is what is the necessity?
To get the best teams in the playoffs. Yes, the Pirates and Blue Jays have made shitty decisions. So has every other team. The Red Sox have a solid organization. But it helps that the Red Sox can pay $18 million to Mike Lowell and Julio Lugo to not play for them and still afford to sign good replacements.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 04:12:32 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
It's stupid. Want to realign?
15 teams per league with 3 divisions per league consisting of five teams each. Schedule as follows:
18 games vs. each divisional opponent, 9 home and 9 away (72 games)
6 games vs. each non-divisional opponent, 3 home and 3 away (60 games)
6 games vs. each team in a single intraleague division, 3 home and 3 away (30 games). Division played to rotate on a 3 year schedule (similar to the NFL schedule)
Total games played: 162
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Is this really that different from the current schedule?
Miles. First, there are no more annual regional rivalries where the Cards get 6 games against KC while the Cubs get 6 vs. the White Sox (who, while shitty, aren't as shitty as KC).
Second, there are no divisions with 4 teams or 6 teams.
Third, everyone plays the same schedule. No Cubs play 18 against Houston but only 16 against Pitt as has happened in previous years.
100% Fair and Balanced.
Ah, I overlooked that like a simple IAN. That is a significant difference.
Add two teams to the Majors, put one in the AL, move the Brewers to the AL per Chuck's advice, put one new team in the NL and here's the plan:
AL East:
Yanks
Bosox
Ryas
Orioles
AL North
Indians
Tigers
Sox
Jays
AL Central
Twins
Royals
Rangers
Brewers
AL West
Mariners
A's
Angels
Las Vegas Expansion Team
NL East
Mets
Phils
Montreal Expansion Team
Nationals
NL South
Marlins
Astros
Braves
Reds
NL North
Cubs
Cardinals
Pirates
Rockies
NL West
D-bags
Padres
Dodgers
Giants
Only first place teams advance. Everyone else goes home and plays golf.
Play 22 games (11 home, 11 away) against the 3 other teams in your division: 66 games
Play 12 games (6 home, 6 away) against the other 8 teams in your league: 96 games.
Leave the interleague matchups for spring training, the once-a-year exhibition games between Cubs and Sox, the All-Star Game and the World Series.
Option 2: Put the top 6 teams in the NL in "Division A" and the top 5 teams in the AL in "Division A." The next group goes into Division B, and the group after that goes into Division C.
So, going into this year, here's how the divisions look:
AL "A"
Yanks
Bosox
Halos
Rangers
Twins
AL "B"
Tigers
Rays
M's
Sux
Tor/Oak (let there be a tiebreaker to decide who)
AL "C"
Tor/Oak
Cleveland
KC
O's
NL "A"
Dodgers
Phillies
Rockies
Cardinals
Giants
Marlins
NL "B"
Braves
Cubs
Milwaukee
Reds
Padres
NL "C"
Astros
Mets
D-bags
Pirates
Nats
Schedules look like they do now (except the interleague games obviously are more pot luck than anything else). Playoffs look like this:
Wild Card is always second place team in A.
Teams in A division always have home field over B and C teams.
Teams move up and down simply based on previous year.
How about getting rid of leagues and divisions entirely, playing a balanced schedule,and have the 8 teams with the best record make the playoffs?
(I have no idea how this would work scheduling-wise.)
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 04:55:18 PM
How about getting rid of leagues and divisions entirely, playing a balanced schedule,and have the 8 teams with the best record make the playoffs?
(I have no idea how this would work scheduling-wise.)
Not bad in a vacuum. But there is still a demand for regional rivalries. 18 games vs. St. Louis and Chicago is far better for baseball than 6 or 8.
Short of contraction (which I am all for), there doesn't seem to be a simple system outside of the one I outlined. Mine is patterned after the most successful league, the NFL. If the Pats and Giants can play in Week 17 and 5 weeks later in the Superbowl, then interleague is good for MLB as well.
The NFL allows each team to face nearly every other team in the entire league every four years. That's good for the fans. It would be good for the MLB as well.
Quote from: Bort on March 11, 2010, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Regardless of the plan, I like that idea.
As much as I hate the Brewers, I vote to ditch the Astros instead. The Brewers don't belong in the West and, anyways, I think I still hate the Astros far more.
And, really, Houston's the geographic anomaly in the division. Plus, their bullshit ballpark would be a perfect match for that novelty sport they play in the AL.
Okay... But maybe MLB doesn't want two AL teams in Texas. In that case, send Houston to the NL West and switch the Padres to the AL.
Because, fuck those guys, too.
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 04:55:18 PM
How about getting rid of leagues and divisions entirely, playing a balanced schedule,and have the 8 teams with the best record make the playoffs?
(I have no idea how this would work scheduling-wise.)
If you were to have each team play each other 6 times, it would be a 174-game season. If they played each other 5 times, it would be 145 games.
In my opinion, the importance of divisions is that it provides for larger sample size against the teams competing against each other. Obviously, an unbalanced schedule is important. But there is value in it.
When there were 8 teams in each league, each team played each other 22 times.
When the leagues expanded to 10 teams, it changed to 18 times each. Still a good sample size.
When divisional play was introduced in 1969, teams played division rivals 18 times each and the teams in the other division 12 times each. Again, 18 games seems sufficient.
In 1977, the AL added Toronto and Seattle and went with an "almost" balanced schedule in which they'd play division rivals 13 times and teams from the other division 12 times. (They also tried to continue the tradition of only intradivsion games after Labor Day, with a team being designated as the "swing team" and spending September playing the other division).
This sucked.
It sucked when the NL went with a balanced schedule in 1993 with the addition of Florida and Colorado.
Now, with Interleague play, teams play wildly different schedules, are unable to develop any familiarity with any team outside their division anyway, yet have to rely on the results of an odd game against teams from the other league to decide their fate.
Quote from: Brownie on March 11, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
Add two teams to the Majors, put one in the AL, move the Brewers to the AL per Chuck's advice, put one new team in the NL and here's the plan:
AL East:
Yanks
Bosox
Ryas
Orioles
AL North
Indians
Tigers
Sox
Jays
AL Central
Twins
Royals
Rangers
Brewers
AL West
Mariners
A's
Angels
Las Vegas Expansion Team
NL East
Mets
Phils
Montreal Expansion Team
Nationals
NL South
Marlins
Astros
Braves
Reds
NL North
Cubs
Cardinals
Pirates
Rockies
NL West
D-bags
Padres
Dodgers
Giants
Only first place teams advance. Everyone else goes home and plays golf.
Play 22 games (11 home, 11 away) against the 3 other teams in your division: 66 games
Play 12 games (6 home, 6 away) against the other 8 teams in your league: 96 games.
Leave the interleague matchups for spring training, the once-a-year exhibition games between Cubs and Sox, the All-Star Game and the World Series.
How about this one, except instead of adding Vegas and Montreal, we get rid of Pittsburgh, KC, Florida, Baltimore, Toronto and the D'Backs.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 11, 2010, 04:55:18 PM
How about getting rid of leagues and divisions entirely, playing a balanced schedule,and have the 8 teams with the best record make the playoffs?
(I have no idea how this would work scheduling-wise.)
Not bad in a vacuum. But there is still a demand for regional rivalries. 18 games vs. St. Louis and Chicago is far better for baseball than 6 or 8.
Short of contraction (which I am all for), there doesn't seem to be a simple system outside of the one I outlined. Mine is patterned after the most successful league, the NFL. If the Pats and Giants can play in Week 17 and 5 weeks later in the Superbowl, then interleague is good for MLB as well.
The NFL allows each team to face nearly every other team in the entire league every four years. That's good for the fans. It would be good for the MLB as well.
Sure it is, but 6 or 8 means those slobbering humanoids known as Tards fans would only come to town once a year. That'd be pretty sweet.
Shoot it out and let God decide.
My plan:
1) Make these fuckers travel by train.
2) Move LA to play next door to the Nets new arena and force the Giants to play wherever Bloomberg was going to put the new Jets/Olympic Stadium that never happened.
3) Put the Mets out of their misery.
4) Force the Twins back to Washington and the Orioles back to St. Louis. Send the Braves back to Boston.
5) Put the A's back in Philly.
5) Contract Arizona, Tampa, Colorado, Florida, Toronto, Seattle, Milwaukee, Kansas City, the Nats, Padres, Mets, Astros, Angels and Rangers.
6) Go with a 154 game schedule with this alignment:
National
Brooklyn
New York
Boston
Phila.
Pittsburgh
Cinicinnati
Chicago
St. Louis
American
Boston
New York
Washington
Cleveland
Detroit
Chicago
St. Louis
Philadelphia
This is novel. It might just work.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
It's stupid. Want to realign?
15 teams per league with 3 divisions per league consisting of five teams each. Schedule as follows:
18 games vs. each divisional opponent, 9 home and 9 away (72 games)
6 games vs. each non-divisional opponent, 3 home and 3 away (60 games)
6 games vs. each team in a single intraleague division, 3 home and 3 away (30 games). Division played to rotate on a 3 year schedule (similar to the NFL schedule)
Total games played: 162
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Here's what I can't wrap my head around. By moving an NL team to the AL, you have 15 teams in each league. Meaning that under this plan, there pretty much has to be an interleague series every single series of the year, otherwise two teams are just waiting around for four days on a bye. Is that even feasible? Isn't 450 total interleague games (30 teams, 30 games each, 2 teams per game) only 30 days worth of games? How can you stretch that from April to September?
Quote from: Ivy6 on March 11, 2010, 05:41:23 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
It's stupid. Want to realign?
15 teams per league with 3 divisions per league consisting of five teams each. Schedule as follows:
18 games vs. each divisional opponent, 9 home and 9 away (72 games)
6 games vs. each non-divisional opponent, 3 home and 3 away (60 games)
6 games vs. each team in a single intraleague division, 3 home and 3 away (30 games). Division played to rotate on a 3 year schedule (similar to the NFL schedule)
Total games played: 162
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Here's what I can't wrap my head around. By moving an NL team to the AL, you have 15 teams in each league. Meaning that under this plan, there pretty much has to be an interleague series every single series of the year, otherwise two teams are just waiting around for four days on a bye. Is that even feasible? Isn't 450 total interleague games (30 teams, 30 games each, 2 teams per game) only 30 days worth of games? How can you stretch that from April to September?
Simply put, you would have an interleague game every day.
Quote from: Brownie on March 11, 2010, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on March 11, 2010, 05:41:23 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
It's stupid. Want to realign?
15 teams per league with 3 divisions per league consisting of five teams each. Schedule as follows:
18 games vs. each divisional opponent, 9 home and 9 away (72 games)
6 games vs. each non-divisional opponent, 3 home and 3 away (60 games)
6 games vs. each team in a single intraleague division, 3 home and 3 away (30 games). Division played to rotate on a 3 year schedule (similar to the NFL schedule)
Total games played: 162
Just need to get an NL team back into the AL. Milwaukee, I'm looking at you.
Here's what I can't wrap my head around. By moving an NL team to the AL, you have 15 teams in each league. Meaning that under this plan, there pretty much has to be an interleague series every single series of the year, otherwise two teams are just waiting around for four days on a bye. Is that even feasible? Isn't 450 total interleague games (30 teams, 30 games each, 2 teams per game) only 30 days worth of games? How can you stretch that from April to September?
Simply put, you would have an interleague game every day.
I guess you have to look at it as 150 series and that woud seemingly work. I still don't like it. If competitive balance is the MOST IMPORTANT thing this is supposed to achieve, why not just implement more revenue sharing and a salary floor? This whole original propsal just reeks of a bullshit idea that Selig and co float around to make it seem like they're working on something.
Quote from: Ivy6 on March 11, 2010, 05:56:28 PM
I guess you have to look at it as 150 series and that woud seemingly work. I still don't like it. If competitive balance is the MOST IMPORTANT thing this is supposed to achieve, why not just implement more revenue sharing and a salary floor? This whole original propsal just reeks of a bullshit idea that Selig and co float around to make it seem like they're working on something.
This is not trying to restore competitive balance. This is trying to restore the integrity of the schedule.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2010, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on March 11, 2010, 05:56:28 PM
I guess you have to look at it as 150 series and that woud seemingly work. I still don't like it. If competitive balance is the MOST IMPORTANT thing this is supposed to achieve, why not just implement more revenue sharing and a salary floor? This whole original propsal just reeks of a bullshit idea that Selig and co float around to make it seem like they're working on something.
This is not trying to restore competitive balance. This is trying to restore the integrity of the schedule.
It's obvious from the ideas being discussed (floating realignment, for fuck's sake?) that
Selig and the owners want to keep the current arrangement, so they're letting some
BS committee come up with some ideas that are definitely terrible so they can claim
they tried but it just doesn't work and so the status quo remains.
Quote from: Brownie on March 11, 2010, 05:33:19 PM
My plan:
1) Make these fuckers travel by train.
2) Move LA to play next door to the Nets new arena and force the Giants to play wherever Bloomberg was going to put the new Jets/Olympic Stadium that never happened.
3) Put the Mets out of their misery.
4) Force the Twins back to Washington and the Orioles back to St. Louis. Send the Braves back to Boston.
5) Put the A's back in Philly.
5) Contract Arizona, Tampa, Colorado, Florida, Toronto, Seattle, Milwaukee, Kansas City, the Nats, Padres, Mets, Astros, Angels and Rangers.
6) Go with a 154 game schedule with this alignment:
National
Brooklyn
New York
Boston
Phila.
Pittsburgh
Cinicinnati
Chicago
St. Louis
American
Boston
New York
Washington
Cleveland
Detroit
Chicago
St. Louis
Philadelphia
This is novel. It might just work.
I like it!
Finally, you found the place where I'm equally conservative.
Quote from: Bort on March 12, 2010, 09:31:35 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 11, 2010, 05:33:19 PM
My plan:
1) Make these fuckers travel by train.
2) Move LA to play next door to the Nets new arena and force the Giants to play wherever Bloomberg was going to put the new Jets/Olympic Stadium that never happened.
3) Put the Mets out of their misery.
4) Force the Twins back to Washington and the Orioles back to St. Louis. Send the Braves back to Boston.
5) Put the A's back in Philly.
5) Contract Arizona, Tampa, Colorado, Florida, Toronto, Seattle, Milwaukee, Kansas City, the Nats, Padres, Mets, Astros, Angels and Rangers.
6) Go with a 154 game schedule with this alignment:
National
Brooklyn
New York
Boston
Phila.
Pittsburgh
Cinicinnati
Chicago
St. Louis
American
Boston
New York
Washington
Cleveland
Detroit
Chicago
St. Louis
Philadelphia
This is novel. It might just work.
I like it!
Finally, you found the place where I'm equally conservative.
I love it too. This something I'd do when playing around with fake computer baseball simulations. Old time shit is where it's at.
And TJ, don't think I don't appreciate the hell out of what you did with the abbreviation of Philadelphia. Top notch, sir.
I owe you one TJSlaky entree*.
*Purchase of soft drink or other non-alcoholic beverage required
Alright, now that someone has made an argument other than "it sucks because it's stupid" I see that floating realignment is probably lame. Thanks, Desipio!
Is there any way we could kidnap Bud Selig, take his face....off, roll him up in a carpet, throw him off a bridge, put his face on TJ, and put TJ in charge of MLB?
Quote from: R-V on March 12, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
Alright, now that someone has made an argument other than "it sucks because it's stupid" I see that floating realignment is probably lame. Thanks, Desipio!
Is there any way we could kidnap Bud Selig, take his face....off, roll him up in a carpet, throw him off a bridge, put his face on TJ, and put TJ in charge of MLB?
Not sure, but that would have made a much better plot than the one they actually used for
Face/Off.
Quote from: R-V on March 12, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
Alright, now that someone has made an argument other than "it sucks because it's stupid" I see that floating realignment is probably lame. Thanks, Desipio!
Is there any way we could kidnap Bud Selig, take his face....off, roll him up in a carpet, throw him off a bridge, put his face on TJ, and put TJ in charge of MLB?
Another reason it's stupid. What happens to an AL DH if the team moves to the NL? They just release him?
Quote from: BH on March 12, 2010, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 12, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
Alright, now that someone has made an argument other than "it sucks because it's stupid" I see that floating realignment is probably lame. Thanks, Desipio!
Is there any way we could kidnap Bud Selig, take his face....off, roll him up in a carpet, throw him off a bridge, put his face on TJ, and put TJ in charge of MLB?
Another reason it's stupid. What happens to an AL DH if the team moves to the NL? They just release him?
I say: shoot him.
Quote from: BH on March 12, 2010, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 12, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
Alright, now that someone has made an argument other than "it sucks because it's stupid" I see that floating realignment is probably lame. Thanks, Desipio!
Is there any way we could kidnap Bud Selig, take his face....off, roll him up in a carpet, throw him off a bridge, put his face on TJ, and put TJ in charge of MLB?
Another reason it's stupid. What happens to an AL DH if the team moves to the NL? They just release him?
Hendry trades for him and sticks him in right field.
I was talking to my buddy about this the other day, and he was explaining to me how the Premier League banishes their bottom two teams to the "minors" and promotes the best two teams from the "minors" to the Premier League each year. I had no idea that's how it worked (because I'm a PANK when it comes to following soccer), but it's too bad that baseball's minor league system feeds the MLB teams. It would be awesome to watch the Nationals and Pirates get banished to AAA.
How about just having a min/max salary cap like most other sports?
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 12, 2010, 12:58:19 PM
I was talking to my buddy about this the other day, and he was explaining to me how the Premier League banishes their bottom two teams to the "minors" and promotes the best two teams from the "minors" to the Premier League each year. I had no idea that's how it worked (because I'm a PANK when it comes to following soccer), but it's too bad that baseball's minor league system feeds the MLB teams. It would be awesome to watch the Nationals and Pirates get banished to AAA.
Relegation happens throughout the English league system.
I think this means that, at least
technically, your local club team
could get promoted its way all the way up the league structure, from its district league up to Premier.
http://www.thepyramid.info/asp/pyramid3.asp
Looks like Bristol Downs League Division 4 is the lowest of the low.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 12, 2010, 01:15:59 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on March 12, 2010, 12:58:19 PM
I was talking to my buddy about this the other day, and he was explaining to me how the Premier League banishes their bottom two teams to the "minors" and promotes the best two teams from the "minors" to the Premier League each year. I had no idea that's how it worked (because I'm a PANK when it comes to following soccer), but it's too bad that baseball's minor league system feeds the MLB teams. It would be awesome to watch the Nationals and Pirates get banished to AAA.
Relegation happens throughout the English league system.
I think this means that, at least technically, your local club team could get promoted its way all the way up the league structure, from its district league up to Premier.
http://www.thepyramid.info/asp/pyramid3.asp
Looks like Bristol Downs League Division 4 is the lowest of the low.
Relegation is a pretty exciting concept. Out of 20 teams in the Premiership, usually 6-8 at the top are fighting for Champions League positions, while the bottom 6-8 are fighting being one of the three relegated. That means that more than half of the teams have something tangible to play for at all times.
And then there are the mediocrities that have nothing to play for except to divide the good teams from the bad teams.
Andy, are you posting on the Tribune's site now?
"Andy on March 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Is this your first full season being a Cubs fan Bob? We traded for Tom before the deadline last season. Pitching 3 innings of no hit ball is not a big deal. Benson is a bum and his wife causes trouble for him everywhere he goes. It is far better to keep your mouth shut and have people assume you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
I only post on the Phil Rogers threads.
Quote from: CBStew on March 13, 2010, 11:58:07 AM
Andy, are you posting on the Tribune's site now?
"Andy on March 13, 2010 9:57 AM
It is far better to keep your mouth shut and have people assume you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
Takes one to know one.
Quote from: Bort on March 12, 2010, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: BH on March 12, 2010, 11:23:56 AM
Another reason it's stupid. What happens to an AL DH if the team moves to the NL? They just release him?
I say: shoot him.
(http://www.dgaquarterly.org/Portals/0/images/0602/interview_Pollack-TheyShootHorsesDontThey.jpg)
QuoteKevin Millar and Chad Tracy, both of whom were signed to minor league contracts, are likely competing for one spot on the Opening Day roster.
"We like both of them," said Cubs manager Lou Piniella. "The one problem we do have — it's not a problem, but something we need to address — is that (Xavier) Nady can't play too much in the outfield early. So we have to carry another outfielder. It's just a question of how we do it." So far this spring, Millar is 5-for-13 (.385) with one home run and three RBI while Tracy is 4-for-15 (.267) with one RBI. Piniella said one possible solution was to carry 11 pitchers, which would allow them to keep both Tracy and Millar, but that's fairly redundant.
From Rotoworld.
Fuck that noise. Oh, is Tyler Colvin going to make this team on Opening Day? He's pretty much mashing right now.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 08:12:35 AM
QuoteKevin Millar and Chad Tracy, both of whom were signed to minor league contracts, are likely competing for one spot on the Opening Day roster.
"We like both of them," said Cubs manager Lou Piniella. "The one problem we do have — it's not a problem, but something we need to address — is that (Xavier) Nady can't play too much in the outfield early. So we have to carry another outfielder. It's just a question of how we do it." So far this spring, Millar is 5-for-13 (.385) with one home run and three RBI while Tracy is 4-for-15 (.267) with one RBI. Piniella said one possible solution was to carry 11 pitchers, which would allow them to keep both Tracy and Millar, but that's fairly redundant.
From Rotoworld.
Fuck that noise. Oh, is Tyler Colvin going to make this team on Opening Day? He's pretty much mashing right now.
I like the idea of keeping 11 pitchers, but not for that reason.
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 08:24:55 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 08:12:35 AM
QuoteKevin Millar and Chad Tracy, both of whom were signed to minor league contracts, are likely competing for one spot on the Opening Day roster.
"We like both of them," said Cubs manager Lou Piniella. "The one problem we do have — it's not a problem, but something we need to address — is that (Xavier) Nady can't play too much in the outfield early. So we have to carry another outfielder. It's just a question of how we do it." So far this spring, Millar is 5-for-13 (.385) with one home run and three RBI while Tracy is 4-for-15 (.267) with one RBI. Piniella said one possible solution was to carry 11 pitchers, which would allow them to keep both Tracy and Millar, but that's fairly redundant.
From Rotoworld.
Fuck that noise. Oh, is Tyler Colvin going to make this team on Opening Day? He's pretty much mashing right now.
I like the idea of keeping 11 pitchers, but not for that reason.
Mine is because there are barely 11 pitchers on the 40 man that I'd consider major league quality.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 08:12:35 AM
QuoteKevin Millar and Chad Tracy, both of whom were signed to minor league contracts, are likely competing for one spot on the Opening Day roster.
"We like both of them," said Cubs manager Lou Piniella. "The one problem we do have — it's not a problem, but something we need to address — is that (Xavier) Nady can't play too much in the outfield early. So we have to carry another outfielder. It's just a question of how we do it." So far this spring, Millar is 5-for-13 (.385) with one home run and three RBI while Tracy is 4-for-15 (.267) with one RBI. Piniella said one possible solution was to carry 11 pitchers, which would allow them to keep both Tracy and Millar, but that's fairly redundant.
From Rotoworld.
Fuck that noise. Oh, is Tyler Colvin going to make this team on Opening Day? He's pretty much mashing right now.
I'd rather let Colvin head back down to AAA where he can keep playing every day. There's still a slim chance he could be a useful major leaguer...isn't there? Might as well keep the guy whose future is on the bench anyway (FULD). You can call Colvin up once Marlon waddles face-first into the ivory.
Quote from: R-V on March 15, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
I'd rather let Colvin head back down to AAA where he can keep playing every day. There's still a slim chance he could be a useful major leaguer...isn't there? Might as well keep the guy whose future is on the bench anyway (FULD). You can call Colvin up once Marlon waddles face-first into the ivory.
I think one aspect of player evaluation that has been overlooked is rank numerology. For example, SAM FULD is 726-3853, which, among other things, corresponds in the 660 area code to "Silk Stalkings," at 1006 North Hundley in Albany.
Tracy bats left handed, can play first and third and left and right, and is a career .308 pinch hitter.
Millar is eight years older, kind of fat, bats right handed, and can't play third anymore or much outfield. And he's a career .198 pinch hitter (and he only hit .217 when he DH'd).
Millar better be one funny motherfucker if he makes this team over Tracy.
Quote from: Andy on March 15, 2010, 09:28:40 AM
Tracy bats left handed, can play first and third and left and right, and is a career .308 pinch hitter.
Millar is eight years older, kind of fat, bats right handed, and can't play third anymore or much outfield. And he's a career .198 pinch hitter (and he only hit .217 when he DH'd).
Millar better be one funny motherfucker if he makes this team over Tracy.
Is Tracy in camp on a minor league deal like Chuckles the Clown is?
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I think one aspect of player evaluation that has been overlooked is rank numerology. For example, SAM FULD is 726-3853, which, among other things, corresponds in the 660 area code to "Silk Stalkings," at 1006 North Hundley in Albany.
Wheezer being Wheezer.
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I'd rather let Colvin head back down to AAA where he can keep playing every day. There's still a slim chance he could be a useful major leaguer...isn't there? Might as well keep the guy whose future is on the bench anyway (FULD). You can call Colvin up once Marlon waddles face-first into the ivory.
Okay, I can agree with this. I said in another thread that it seems that Colvin is pretty much slated to have the job in RF to lose next Spring (barring some Fontenot tradejoke or something). As much as I hate Sam Fuld being on the roster, it'd be better for Colvin to rake in AAA than rot on the bench. It hurts him being left handed, too. It's not like Lou is going to want to pair him with Fukudome while Nady can't play the field until June.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Quote
I think one aspect of player evaluation that has been overlooked is rank numerology. For example, SAM FULD is 726-3853, which, among other things, corresponds in the 660 area code to "Silk Stalkings," at 1006 North Hundley in Albany.
Wheezer being Wheezer.
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I'd rather let Colvin head back down to AAA where he can keep playing every day. There's still a slim chance he could be a useful major leaguer...isn't there? Might as well keep the guy whose future is on the bench anyway (FULD). You can call Colvin up once Marlon waddles face-first into the ivory.
Okay, I can agree with this. I said in another thread that it seems that Colvin is pretty much slated to have the job in RF to lose next Spring (barring some Fontenot tradejoke or something). As much as I hate Sam Fuld being on the roster, it'd be better for Colvin to rake in AAA than rot on the bench. It hurts him being left handed, too. It's not like Lou is going to want to pair him with Fukudome while Nady can't play the field until June.
I don't know if Colvin is as good as you think he is.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 15, 2010, 10:29:16 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
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I think one aspect of player evaluation that has been overlooked is rank numerology. For example, SAM FULD is 726-3853, which, among other things, corresponds in the 660 area code to "Silk Stalkings," at 1006 North Hundley in Albany.
Wheezer being Wheezer.
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I'd rather let Colvin head back down to AAA where he can keep playing every day. There's still a slim chance he could be a useful major leaguer...isn't there? Might as well keep the guy whose future is on the bench anyway (FULD). You can call Colvin up once Marlon waddles face-first into the ivory.
Okay, I can agree with this. I said in another thread that it seems that Colvin is pretty much slated to have the job in RF to lose next Spring (barring some Fontenot tradejoke or something). As much as I hate Sam Fuld being on the roster, it'd be better for Colvin to rake in AAA than rot on the bench. It hurts him being left handed, too. It's not like Lou is going to want to pair him with Fukudome while Nady can't play the field until June.
I don't know if Colvin is as good as you think he is.
Colvin was a sort of questionable draft pick, IIRC, and but for a few spurts, hasn't really demonstrated enough to warrant so much confidence. He's hitting well in the Spring, sure, but how much can the guy have improved since last September when he looked...ummm, what's the charitable word(s)?...not very good.
Quote from: MAD on March 15, 2010, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on March 15, 2010, 10:29:16 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
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I think one aspect of player evaluation that has been overlooked is rank numerology. For example, SAM FULD is 726-3853, which, among other things, corresponds in the 660 area code to "Silk Stalkings," at 1006 North Hundley in Albany.
Wheezer being Wheezer.
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I'd rather let Colvin head back down to AAA where he can keep playing every day. There's still a slim chance he could be a useful major leaguer...isn't there? Might as well keep the guy whose future is on the bench anyway (FULD). You can call Colvin up once Marlon waddles face-first into the ivory.
Okay, I can agree with this. I said in another thread that it seems that Colvin is pretty much slated to have the job in RF to lose next Spring (barring some Fontenot tradejoke or something). As much as I hate Sam Fuld being on the roster, it'd be better for Colvin to rake in AAA than rot on the bench. It hurts him being left handed, too. It's not like Lou is going to want to pair him with Fukudome while Nady can't play the field until June.
I don't know if Colvin is as good as you think he is.
Colvin was a sort of questionable draft pick, IIRC, and but for a few spurts, hasn't really demonstrated enough to warrant so much confidence. He's hitting well in the Spring, sure, but how much can the guy have improved since last September when he looked...ummm, what's the charitable word(s)?...not very good.
Yeah but he guzzled a bunch of Muscle Milk (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100313&content_id=8779536&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb) in the offseason. Now he's ready to spirt it all over the pitchers of the NL Central.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
it'd be better for Colvin to rake in AAA than rot on the bench.
That
would be better, yes. But unless you think a .780 OPS qualifies as "raking," I don't think it'll happen.
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
it'd be better for Colvin to rake in AAA than rot on the bench.
That would be better, yes. But unless you think a .780 OPS qualifies as "raking," I don't think it'll happen.
Don't you dare Yeti me with your "numbers," Eli. But, I see what you mean. I haven't seen much of the Cubs so far this Spring, but in yesterday's game Len and Bob were kind of talking him up because of the added muscle and fine spring. For some reason, I had it in my head that he was a better prospect than he actually is.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Wheezer being Wheezer.
You can't see this? There are three layers. The innermost, "Silk Stalkings," is not properly numerological. The next, "1006 North Hundley," contains the 90 degree modification of "1060 West" along with the obvious surname association: the last two digits. In the outer layer, "Albany" is an anagram of "by anal," again pointing to the final part of the numerical string in this layer, the zero in "660." What is the digit that was misplaced previously? The six. Moving this into its suggested place, we have Sam Fuld as 666
in this context.
Quote from: Wheezer on March 15, 2010, 10:52:12 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Wheezer being Wheezer.
You can't see this? There are three layers. The innermost, "Silk Stalkings," is not properly numerological. The next, "1006 North Hundley," contains the 90 degree modification of "1060 West" along with the obvious surname association: the last two digits. In the outer layer, "Albany" is an anagram of "by anal," again pointing to the final part of the numerical string in this layer, the zero in "660." What is the digit that was misplaced previously? The six. Moving this into its suggested place, we have Sam Fuld as 666 in this context.
This is the best analysis I've ever read. How can I subscribe to your newsletter?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
it'd be better for Colvin to rake in AAA than rot on the bench.
That would be better, yes. But unless you think a .780 OPS qualifies as "raking," I don't think it'll happen.
Don't you dare Yeti me with your "numbers," Eli. But, I see what you mean. I haven't seen much of the Cubs so far this Spring, but in yesterday's game Len and Bob were kind of talking him up because of the added muscle and fine spring. For some reason, I had it in my head that he was a better prospect than he actually is.
Eli's a douche. Colvin is a 5 tool player, which statfaggots have yet to factor into their queerquations and homometrics. For instance, did you know Colvin has 44 stolen bases against only 16 cs in the minors? TOOLS, and he's got 28 outfield assists. TOOLS And he hit .300 at AA Tennessee last year. TOOLS. And he's hit 56 home runs in the minors, which is the same number that Hack Wilson hit in 1929, which was a National League record for like 70 years. TOOLS.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:40:50 AM
For some reason, I had it in my head that he was a better prospect than he actually is.
Because baseball players are prone to the same IAN inflation as un- and semi-attractive women?
Quote from: MAD on March 15, 2010, 10:35:13 AM
Colvin was a sort of questionable draft pick, IIRC, and but for a few spurts, hasn't really demonstrated enough to warrant so much confidence. He's hitting well in the Spring, sure, but how much can the guy have improved since last September when he looked...ummm, what's the charitable word(s)?...not very good.
I don't think he's anywhere near a lock for the roster in the future, but it's nice to see he
finally got his act together and roided up. We'll just have to wait and see if his obliques can
hold together. Until SAM FULD shows some real dedication, might as well let him rot on the
bench and let Colvin get some playing time in AAA.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 15, 2010, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:40:50 AM
For some reason, I had it in my head that he was a better prospect than he actually is.
Because baseball players are prone to the same IAN inflation as un- and semi-attractive women?
You think Maggie G is hot. So....
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 15, 2010, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:40:50 AM
For some reason, I had it in my head that he was a better prospect than he actually is.
Because baseball players are prone to the same IAN inflation as un- and semi-attractive women?
You think Maggie G is hot. So....
¿Que Morph?
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 15, 2010, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 15, 2010, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:40:50 AM
For some reason, I had it in my head that he was a better prospect than he actually is.
Because baseball players are prone to the same IAN inflation as un- and semi-attractive women?
You think Maggie G is hot. So....
¿Que Morph?
Let's not do that to this thread, too.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 15, 2010, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 15, 2010, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 15, 2010, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 15, 2010, 10:40:50 AM
For some reason, I had it in my head that he was a better prospect than he actually is.
Because baseball players are prone to the same IAN inflation as un- and semi-attractive women?
You think Maggie G is hot. So....
¿Que Morph?
Let's not do that to this thread, too.
Agreed.
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
That's kind of common
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I think you just insulted my manlove for Matt Stairs and Eric Karros in one post. I never imagined I could hate you
even more.
Quote from: SKO on March 15, 2010, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I think you just insulted my manlove for Matt Stairs and Eric Karros in one post. I never imagined I could hate you even more.
Good point -- Millar never had a mullet curl. The comparison does not hold.
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
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Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I don't understand this. 3 of those 4 had productive offensive seasons.
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I don't understand this. 3 of those 4 had productive offensive seasons.
You need to install Desipio Plus. It blocks any Kurt post automatically.
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I don't understand this. 3 of those 4 had productive offensive seasons.
2. I realize that you're a statfaggot and probably don't believe in the concept of hollow stats, but you must not have watched Fred McGriff's tenure as a Chicago Cub.
Quote from: SKO on March 15, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I don't understand this. 3 of those 4 had productive offensive seasons.
2. I realize that you're a statfaggot and probably don't believe in the concept of hollow stats, but you must not have watched Fred McGriff's tenure as a Chicago Cub.
McStiff eats ass.
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For some reason, I had it in my head that he was a better prospect than he actually is.
Because baseball players are prone to the same IAN inflation as un- and semi-attractive women?
You think Maggie G is hot. So....
¿Que Morph?
Let's not do that to this thread, too.
Agreed.
Sorry guys, too much cheddar to stack today. I'm just getting caught up.
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2010, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 15, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I don't understand this. 3 of those 4 had productive offensive seasons.
2. I realize that you're a statfaggot and probably don't believe in the concept of hollow stats, but you must not have watched Fred McGriff's tenure as a Chicago Cub.
McStiff eats ass.
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Quote from: SKO on March 15, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I don't understand this. 3 of those 4 had productive offensive seasons.
2. I realize that you're a statfaggot and probably don't believe in the concept of hollow stats, but you must not have watched Fred McGriff's tenure as a Chicago Cub.
#1?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 15, 2010, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I don't understand this. 3 of those 4 had productive offensive seasons.
You need to install Desipio Plus. It blocks any Kurt post automatically.
CD has the hookup for that.
Quote from: Andy on March 15, 2010, 09:28:40 AM
Tracy bats left handed, can play first and third and left and right, and is a career .308 pinch hitter.
Chad A. Tracy, 242-328-7229, projects as very well lying within the Bermuda Triangle.
[Edito.--I tentatively recommend that he be nicknamed "The Keyhole."]
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 15, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 15, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 15, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
Sullivan in the Tribune:
"Millar homered and doubled Sunday against the Angels, driving in three runs. He's 5-for-13 in the first 12 games, looking like a good bet to win a roster spot."
Right. Make decisions based upon long balls hit in Arizona off minor league ptichers.
He's also looked terrible at 1st and has to be one of the slowest players in baseball.
Sounds (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stairma01.shtml) like a bad fit (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/coomero01.shtml) for the (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgrifr01.shtml) Chicago Cubs? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karroer01.shtml)
I don't understand this. 3 of those 4 had productive offensive seasons.
I thought the criteria was "looked terrible at 1st" and "slowest players in baseball."
Nevertheless, I see where this is going, so ...
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The best way to orchestrate a sneak attack is to be the worst organization in the league (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-30-houston-astros)
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Joyful optimism quickly dwindling.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 15, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Joyful optimism quickly dwindling.
You could have just bolded the entire thing.
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 15, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Joyful optimism quickly dwindling.
You could have just bolded the entire thing.
How's this?
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman
I just...
(exhales)
Why?
Damn it, Huey. I think I'm blind now.
I worry that Tyler Colvin is now untouchable. You know like...Rich Hill...Bobby Brownlie...David Kelton...Andy Sisco...Luis Montanez...
Quote from: D. Doluntap on March 15, 2010, 10:34:47 PM
I worry that Tyler Colvin is now untouchable. You know like...Rich Hill...Bobby Brownlie...David Kelton...Andy Sisco...Luis Montanez...
Sam Fuld...
Quote from: MAD on March 15, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 15, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Joyful optimism quickly dwindling.
You could have just bolded the entire thing.
How's this?
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman
I just...
(exhales)
Why?
Lou's gotta put eight guys out there behind the pitcher. SOMEBODY has to play second base.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 15, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 15, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Joyful optimism quickly dwindling.
You could have just bolded the entire thing.
How's this?
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman
I just...
(exhales)
Why?
Lou's gotta put eight guys out there behind the pitcher. SOMEBODY has to play second base.
I think I'm more upset about the first part. I mean, I know lineups aren't supposed to matter and all, but why do they have to be so definitive about it? Even against righties that muppet's going to lead off over Fuku?
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 15, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 15, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Joyful optimism quickly dwindling.
You could have just bolded the entire thing.
How's this?
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman
I just...
(exhales)
Why?
Lou's gotta put eight guys out there behind the pitcher. SOMEBODY has to play second base.
I think I'm more upset about the first part. I mean, I know lineups aren't supposed to matter and all, but why do they have to be so definitive about it? Even against righties that muppet's going to lead off over Fuku?
This isn't Dusty Baker we're talking about here. If Theriot isn't getting it done at the top spot, Lou will move his ass out.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 15, 2010, 10:50:55 PM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on March 15, 2010, 10:34:47 PM
I worry that Tyler Colvin is now untouchable. You know like...Rich Hill...Bobby Brownlie...David Kelton...Andy Sisco...Luis Montanez...
Sam Fuld...
To wrap up the previous analysis, I suggest that Fuld have the nickname "Sags Killstink."
Quote from: MAD on March 15, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 15, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Joyful optimism quickly dwindling.
You could have just bolded the entire thing.
How's this?
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman
I just...
(exhales)
Why?
I don't get why it has to be so absolute. Why not just use Fukudome leading off against righties and let Theriot lead off against lefties (if Lou's so intent on using him there)?
Quote from: Fork on March 16, 2010, 05:44:38 AM
This isn't Dusty Baker we're talking about here. If Theriot isn't getting it done at the top spot, Lou will move his ass out.
I'd rather he just go one step further and understand that Theriot won't get it done, so the Cubs don't spend two months giving tons of at bats to him.
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 16, 2010, 05:44:38 AM
This isn't Dusty Baker we're talking about here. If Theriot isn't getting it done at the top spot, Lou will move his ass out.
I'd rather he just go one step further and understand that Theriot won't get it done, so the Cubs don't spend two months giving tons of at bats to him.
So, what lineup do you want? What lineup is substantially better using the players they have?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:36:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 16, 2010, 05:44:38 AM
This isn't Dusty Baker we're talking about here. If Theriot isn't getting it done at the top spot, Lou will move his ass out.
I'd rather he just go one step further and understand that Theriot won't get it done, so the Cubs don't spend two months giving tons of at bats to him.
So, what lineup do you want? What lineup is substantially better using the players they have?
1. Soriano, LF
2. Castro, SS
3. Fuld, CF
4. Ramirez, 3B
5. Lee, 1B
6. Soto, C
7. Colvin, RF
8. Baker, 2B
9. Zambrano, P
Can we just let Zambrano hit every AB?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 16, 2010, 08:40:38 AM
Can we just let Zambrano hit every AB?
Can you find a spot for him on the 40-Theriot Roster?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:36:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 16, 2010, 05:44:38 AM
This isn't Dusty Baker we're talking about here. If Theriot isn't getting it done at the top spot, Lou will move his ass out.
I'd rather he just go one step further and understand that Theriot won't get it done, so the Cubs don't spend two months giving tons of at bats to him.
So, what lineup do you want? What lineup is substantially better using the players they have?
Looking at the likely starters, I guess I'd go with something like:
1. Fukudome
2. Lee
3. Ramirez
4. Soto
5. Soriano
6. Byrd
7. Theriot
8. Fontenot
9. Pitcher
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 08:44:40 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:36:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 16, 2010, 05:44:38 AM
This isn't Dusty Baker we're talking about here. If Theriot isn't getting it done at the top spot, Lou will move his ass out.
I'd rather he just go one step further and understand that Theriot won't get it done, so the Cubs don't spend two months giving tons of at bats to him.
So, what lineup do you want? What lineup is substantially better using the players they have?
Looking at the likely starters, I guess I'd go with something like:
1. Fukudome
2. Lee
3. Ramirez
4. Soto
5. Soriano
6. Byrd
7. Theriot
8. Fontenot
9. Pitcher
That's pretty good except for the six auto-outs at the bottom of it.
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 08:44:40 AM
Looking at the likely starters, I guess I'd go with something like:
1. Fukudome
2. Lee
3. Ramirez
4. Soto
5. Soriano
6. Byrd
7. Theriot
8. Fontenot
9. Pitcher
OK. Now, looking at that lineup, do you really think the Cubs can contend with that? I don't.
And, if that's that the BEST lineup, and the Cubs can't contend with that, does it matter where Theriot hits?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:55:55 AM
OK. Now, looking at that lineup, do you really think the Cubs can contend with that? I don't.
And, if that's that the BEST lineup, and the Cubs can't contend with that, does it matter where Theriot hits?
I guess I'm not really seeing your point. I agree that the lineup isn't very good. And no, the Cubs probably won't contend. So does that mean we aren't allowed to discuss the team for the next six months?
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:55:55 AM
OK. Now, looking at that lineup, do you really think the Cubs can contend with that? I don't.
And, if that's that the BEST lineup, and the Cubs can't contend with that, does it matter where Theriot hits?
I guess I'm not really seeing your point. I agree that the lineup isn't very good. And no, the Cubs probably won't contend. So does that mean we aren't allowed to discuss the team for the next six months?
Is Chuck saying it doesn't matter where Theriot hits so the Cubs should just go ahead and hit him leadoff? I don't understand this Chuck Evans post at all.
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:55:55 AM
OK. Now, looking at that lineup, do you really think the Cubs can contend with that? I don't.
And, if that's that the BEST lineup, and the Cubs can't contend with that, does it matter where Theriot hits?
I guess I'm not really seeing your point. I agree that the lineup isn't very good. And no, the Cubs probably won't contend. So does that mean we aren't allowed to discuss the team for the next six months?
"Allowed"? Sure. But being disappointed that the Cubs will "spend two months giving tons of at bats to him (in the leadoff spot)" is silly.
They're going to spend 6 months giving a ton of at bats to a lot of players who don't deserve any at bats in any slot in the lineup.
I guess it's like this. "Theriot will bat leadoff. So what?"
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 09:10:10 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:55:55 AM
OK. Now, looking at that lineup, do you really think the Cubs can contend with that? I don't.
And, if that's that the BEST lineup, and the Cubs can't contend with that, does it matter where Theriot hits?
I guess I'm not really seeing your point. I agree that the lineup isn't very good. And no, the Cubs probably won't contend. So does that mean we aren't allowed to discuss the team for the next six months?
"Allowed"? Sure. But being disappointed that the Cubs will "spend two months giving tons of at bats to him (in the leadoff spot)" is silly.
They're going to spend 6 months giving a ton of at bats to a lot of players who don't deserve any at bats in any slot in the lineup.
I guess it's like this. "Theriot will bat leadoff. So what?"
Cool.
Quote from: Fork on March 16, 2010, 05:44:38 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 15, 2010, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 15, 2010, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 15, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 15, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/theriot-wins-cubs-leadoff-battle-against-fukudome.html)
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman.
Joyful optimism quickly dwindling.
You could have just bolded the entire thing.
How's this?
QuoteRyan Theriot officially has won the battle with Kosuke Fukudome to be the leadoff man, and Mike Fontenot likely will be the regular second baseman
I just...
(exhales)
Why?
Lou's gotta put eight guys out there behind the pitcher. SOMEBODY has to play second base.
I think I'm more upset about the first part. I mean, I know lineups aren't supposed to matter and all, but why do they have to be so definitive about it? Even against righties that muppet's going to lead off over Fuku?
This isn't Dusty Baker we're talking about here. If Theriot isn't getting it done at the top spot, Lou will move his ass out.
I agree. The leadoff thing doesn't bother me as much as the fact Hendry continues to stock the roster with shitty middle infielders.
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 09:28:48 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 09:10:10 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:55:55 AM
OK. Now, looking at that lineup, do you really think the Cubs can contend with that? I don't.
And, if that's that the BEST lineup, and the Cubs can't contend with that, does it matter where Theriot hits?
I guess I'm not really seeing your point. I agree that the lineup isn't very good. And no, the Cubs probably won't contend. So does that mean we aren't allowed to discuss the team for the next six months?
"Allowed"? Sure. But being disappointed that the Cubs will "spend two months giving tons of at bats to him (in the leadoff spot)" is silly.
They're going to spend 6 months giving a ton of at bats to a lot of players who don't deserve any at bats in any slot in the lineup.
I guess it's like this. "Theriot will bat leadoff. So what?"
Cool.
So now that we're done discussing the Cubs for at least a year or so, what does Chuck want us to talk about?
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
So now that we're done discussing the Cubs for at least a year or so, what does Chuck want us to talk about?
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Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 09:28:48 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 09:10:10 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 08:55:55 AM
OK. Now, looking at that lineup, do you really think the Cubs can contend with that? I don't.
And, if that's that the BEST lineup, and the Cubs can't contend with that, does it matter where Theriot hits?
I guess I'm not really seeing your point. I agree that the lineup isn't very good. And no, the Cubs probably won't contend. So does that mean we aren't allowed to discuss the team for the next six months?
"Allowed"? Sure. But being disappointed that the Cubs will "spend two months giving tons of at bats to him (in the leadoff spot)" is silly.
They're going to spend 6 months giving a ton of at bats to a lot of players who don't deserve any at bats in any slot in the lineup.
I guess it's like this. "Theriot will bat leadoff. So what?"
Cool.
So now that we're done discussing the Cubs for at least a year or so, what does Chuck want us to talk about?
Can we be far from a "Mr. Chuck" thread?
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
So now that we're done discussing the Cubs for at least a year or so, what does Chuck want us to talk about?
In Chuck's defense, over half of Desipio posts are just someone complaining that other
people are discussing something that the poster is some combination of not interested
in, not knowledgeable about, or not mature enough to shut the fuck up and let people
have a conversation.
I think Theriot makes as much sense as anyone for lead off starting the season if Nady
is going to be ready to play the field. Optimally, it's probably Theriot vs lefties and
Fukudome vs righties, but Lou likes the idea of giving his hitters a solid spot in the
lineup, at least at the start. I don't see him bouncing Theriot between 1/2 or something
based on the pitcher.
I would guess at something like
| # | vs RHP | vs LHP |
| 1 | Theriot | Theriot |
| 2 | Byrd | Byrd |
| 3 | Lee | Lee |
| 4 | Ram | Ram |
| 5 | Fukudome | Nady |
| 6 | Soriano | Soriano |
| 7 | Soto | Soto |
| 8 | Fontenot | Baker |
| 9 | Pitcher | Pitcher |
Quote from: Pre on March 16, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
So now that we're done discussing the Cubs for at least a year or so, what does Chuck want us to talk about?
In Chuck's defense, over half of Desipio posts are just someone complaining that other
people are discussing something that the poster is some combination of not interested
in, not knowledgeable about, or not mature enough to shut the fuck up and let people
have a conversation.
I think Theriot makes as much sense as anyone for lead off starting the season if Nady
is going to be ready to play the field. Optimally, it's probably Theriot vs lefties and
Fukudome vs righties, but Lou likes the idea of giving his hitters a solid spot in the
lineup, at least at the start. I don't see him bouncing Theriot between 1/2 or something
based on the pitcher.
I would guess at something like
| # | vs RHP | vs LHP |
| 1 | Theriot | Theriot |
| 2 | Byrd | Byrd |
| 3 | Lee | Lee |
| 4 | Ram | Ram |
| 5 | Fukudome | Nady |
| 6 | Soriano | Soriano |
| 7 | Soto | Soto |
| 8 | Fontenot | Baker |
| 9 | Pitcher | Pitcher |
How is that a defense of Chuck?
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 16, 2010, 10:54:42 AM
How is that a defense of Chuck?
I dunno, I probably was going to add something, but instead
I decided to talk about the Cubs because I like baseball and
while I'm concerned about the team I'd much rather be happy
and wait until there's actually something to be a big old grumpy
bitch about.
Quote from: Pre on March 16, 2010, 11:03:08 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 16, 2010, 10:54:42 AM
How is that a defense of Chuck?
I dunno, I probably was going to add something, but instead
I decided to talk about the Cubs because I like baseball and
while I'm concerned about the team I'd much rather be happy
and wait until there's actually something to be a big old grumpy
bitch about.
Like Chuck's posts? That's what's doing it for me today.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 16, 2010, 11:04:25 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 16, 2010, 11:03:08 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 16, 2010, 10:54:42 AM
How is that a defense of Chuck?
I dunno, I probably was going to add something, but instead
I decided to talk about the Cubs because I like baseball and
while I'm concerned about the team I'd much rather be happy
and wait until there's actually something to be a big old grumpy
bitch about.
Like Chuck's posts? That's what's doing it for me today.
So, my post which suggests that being big old and grumpy about the Cubs is silly is making you big old and grumpy.
Score!
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 16, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 16, 2010, 11:04:25 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 16, 2010, 11:03:08 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 16, 2010, 10:54:42 AM
How is that a defense of Chuck?
I dunno, I probably was going to add something, but instead
I decided to talk about the Cubs because I like baseball and
while I'm concerned about the team I'd much rather be happy
and wait until there's actually something to be a big old grumpy
bitch about.
Like Chuck's posts? That's what's doing it for me today.
So, my post which suggests that being big old and grumpy about the Cubs is silly is making you big old and grumpy.
Score!
I'm making myself big by drinking myself to sleep every night but every one of your posts takes about five minutes off my life and that makes me grumpy.
Quote from: Pre on March 16, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
So now that we're done discussing the Cubs for at least a year or so, what does Chuck want us to talk about?
In Chuck's defense, over half of Desipio posts are just someone complaining that other
people are discussing something that the poster is some combination of not interested
in, not knowledgeable about, or not mature enough to shut the fuck up and let people
have a conversation.
I think Theriot makes as much sense as anyone for lead off starting the season if Nady
is going to be ready to play the field. Optimally, it's probably Theriot vs lefties and
Fukudome vs righties, but Lou likes the idea of giving his hitters a solid spot in the
lineup, at least at the start. I don't see him bouncing Theriot between 1/2 or something
based on the pitcher.
I would guess at something like
| # | vs RHP | vs LHP |
| 1 | Theriot | Theriot |
| 2 | Byrd | Byrd |
| 3 | Lee | Lee |
| 4 | Ram | Ram |
| 5 | Fukudome | Nady |
| 6 | Soriano | Soriano |
| 7 | Soto | Soto |
| 8 | Fontenot | Baker |
| 9 | Pitcher | Pitcher |
I think Lou has said he'd like to hit Fukudome second already. Other than that, I'm good. I think they're going to hit Byrd 5th.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 16, 2010, 11:18:14 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 16, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
So now that we're done discussing the Cubs for at least a year or so, what does Chuck want us to talk about?
In Chuck's defense, over half of Desipio posts are just someone complaining that other
people are discussing something that the poster is some combination of not interested
in, not knowledgeable about, or not mature enough to shut the fuck up and let people
have a conversation.
I think Theriot makes as much sense as anyone for lead off starting the season if Nady
is going to be ready to play the field. Optimally, it's probably Theriot vs lefties and
Fukudome vs righties, but Lou likes the idea of giving his hitters a solid spot in the
lineup, at least at the start. I don't see him bouncing Theriot between 1/2 or something
based on the pitcher.
I would guess at something like
| # | vs RHP | vs LHP |
| 1 | Theriot | Theriot |
| 2 | Byrd | Byrd |
| 3 | Lee | Lee |
| 4 | Ram | Ram |
| 5 | Fukudome | Nady |
| 6 | Soriano | Soriano |
| 7 | Soto | Soto |
| 8 | Fontenot | Baker |
| 9 | Pitcher | Pitcher |
I think Lou has said he'd like to hit Fukudome second already. Other than that, I'm good. I think they're going to hit Byrd 5th.
My initial reaction to that is to throw up my breakfast.
I like Joe Posnanski because he makes statbuttpluggery interesting.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/03/15/johnny-damon-detroit/
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
I like Joe Posnanski because he makes statbuttpluggery interesting.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/03/15/johnny-damon-detroit/
Posnanski is always an interesting read.*
* Except for when he overuses footnotes for stupid tangents.
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
I like Joe Posnanski because he makes statbuttpluggery interesting.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/03/15/johnny-damon-detroit/
Posnanski is always an interesting read.*
* Except for when he overuses footnotes for stupid tangents.
Without footnotes for stupid tangents, my life* would be a hollow lie.
*Well, not really. I had quite a bit of great**, non-footnote experiences.**But they weren't all happy days. Like the time Pinky Tuscadero crashed her motorcycle, or the night I lost all my money to those card sharks and my dad Tom Bosley had to get it back...
Quote from: Bort on March 16, 2010, 12:38:56 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
I like Joe Posnanski because he makes statbuttpluggery interesting.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/03/15/johnny-damon-detroit/
Posnanski is always an interesting read.*
* Except for when he overuses footnotes for stupid tangents.
Without footnotes for stupid tangents, my life* would be a hollow lie.
*Well, not really. I had quite a bit of great**, non-footnote experiences.
**But they weren't all happy days. Like the time Pinky Tuscadero crashed her motorcycle***, or the night I lost all my money to those card sharks and my dad Tom Bosley had to get it back...
***actually, she got hurt in a demolition derby.
Quote from: Fork on March 16, 2010, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 16, 2010, 12:38:56 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 16, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 16, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
I like Joe Posnanski because he makes statbuttpluggery interesting.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/03/15/johnny-damon-detroit/
Posnanski is always an interesting read.*
* Except for when he overuses footnotes for stupid tangents.
Without footnotes for stupid tangents, my life* would be a hollow lie.
*Well, not really. I had quite a bit of great**, non-footnote experiences.
**But they weren't all happy days. Like the time Pinky Tuscadero crashed her motorcycle***, or the night I lost all my money to those card sharks and my dad Tom Bosley had to get it back...
***actually, she got hurt in a demolition derby.****
****But I didn't want to mess up the Simpsons quote, Ersatz Chuck.
According to the Nationals' official Twitter feed, the club has released outfielder Elijah Dukes.
No reason was given. Dukes hit a disappointing .250/.337/.393 over 416 at-bats in 2009, but he's just 25 years old and was expected to serve as the Nationals' starting right fielder this season. On top of that, he was only going to require a $444,000 salary in 2010. It's not clear who will start in right field.
A .337 OBP? Not bad, eh? The SLG is awful. I know the Cubs probably have no room for him, but I just thought this was interesting. He was supposed to start for Washington this year.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
According to the Nationals' official Twitter feed, the club has released outfielder Elijah Dukes.
No reason was given. Dukes hit a disappointing .250/.337/.393 over 416 at-bats in 2009, but he's just 25 years old and was expected to serve as the Nationals' starting right fielder this season. On top of that, he was only going to require a $444,000 salary in 2010. It's not clear who will start in right field.
A .337 OBP? Not bad, eh? The SLG is awful. I know the Cubs probably have no room for him, but I just thought this was interesting. He was supposed to start for Washington this year.
Heck of an argument. He must be worth picking up.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
According to the Nationals' official Twitter feed, the club has released outfielder Elijah Dukes.
No reason was given. Dukes hit a disappointing .250/.337/.393 over 416 at-bats in 2009, but he's just 25 years old and was expected to serve as the Nationals' starting right fielder this season. On top of that, he was only going to require a $444,000 salary in 2010. It's not clear who will start in right field.
A .337 OBP? Not bad, eh? The SLG is awful. I know the Cubs probably have no room for him, but I just thought this was interesting. He was supposed to start for Washington this year.
He's a Milton style POS. Just not nearly as good. I'm glad the Nats ditched this guy. I think they can be a fun team this year and really piss some people off. I guess since they'll inevitably piss me off when they beat up on the Cubs this will backfire. Still, I like that team to spoil. They still need more pitching.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
A .337 OBP? Not bad, eh?
Not "bad," I suppose.
Perhaps simply "below average"?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 17, 2010, 09:51:09 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
A .337 OBP? Not bad, eh?
Not "bad," I suppose.
Perhaps simply "below average"?
But still .014 points higher than HALL OF FAMER Andre Dawson's career OBP??- Young statfag whippersnapper grenade tossing.
Ron Washington says have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/031810dnsporangwashington.1b883a276.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/031810dnsporangwashington.1b883a276.html)
Shocking given the lack of drug problems in Ranger history.
Then again, maybe this explains why they loved Milton there.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 17, 2010, 01:14:23 PM
Ron Washington says have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/031810dnsporangwashington.1b883a276.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/031810dnsporangwashington.1b883a276.html)
Rabble rabble! I'm angry about how Ron Washington parties!
Wait, no I'm not angry at all.
Quote from: Slaky on March 17, 2010, 09:50:33 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
According to the Nationals' official Twitter feed, the club has released outfielder Elijah Dukes.
No reason was given. Dukes hit a disappointing .250/.337/.393 over 416 at-bats in 2009, but he's just 25 years old and was expected to serve as the Nationals' starting right fielder this season. On top of that, he was only going to require a $444,000 salary in 2010. It's not clear who will start in right field.
A .337 OBP? Not bad, eh? The SLG is awful. I know the Cubs probably have no room for him, but I just thought this was interesting. He was supposed to start for Washington this year.
He's a Milton style POS. Just not nearly as good. I'm glad the Nats ditched this guy. I think they can be a fun team this year and really piss some people off. I guess since they'll inevitably piss me off when they beat up on the Cubs this will backfire. Still, I like that team to spoil. They still need more pitching.
He basically required a babysitter to keep an eye on him so as to steer him away from violating his parole, if I recall correctly. Pretty sure he was the pot-smoking, girlfriend beating, gun-wielding douchebag of the Nationals. I'd be shocked if Hendry hasn't already contacted his agent...
Quote from: Canadouche on March 19, 2010, 05:47:48 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 17, 2010, 09:50:33 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
According to the Nationals' official Twitter feed, the club has released outfielder Elijah Dukes.
No reason was given. Dukes hit a disappointing .250/.337/.393 over 416 at-bats in 2009, but he's just 25 years old and was expected to serve as the Nationals' starting right fielder this season. On top of that, he was only going to require a $444,000 salary in 2010. It's not clear who will start in right field.
A .337 OBP? Not bad, eh? The SLG is awful. I know the Cubs probably have no room for him, but I just thought this was interesting. He was supposed to start for Washington this year.
He's a Milton style POS. Just not nearly as good. I'm glad the Nats ditched this guy. I think they can be a fun team this year and really piss some people off. I guess since they'll inevitably piss me off when they beat up on the Cubs this will backfire. Still, I like that team to spoil. They still need more pitching.
He basically required a babysitter to keep an eye on him so as to steer him away from violating his parole, if I recall correctly. Pretty sure he was the pot-smoking, girlfriend beating, gun-wielding douchebag of the Nationals. I'd be shocked if Hendry hasn't already contacted his agent...
To be fair, only one of these things is bad.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 19, 2010, 06:54:10 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on March 19, 2010, 05:47:48 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 17, 2010, 09:50:33 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 17, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
According to the Nationals' official Twitter feed, the club has released outfielder Elijah Dukes.
No reason was given. Dukes hit a disappointing .250/.337/.393 over 416 at-bats in 2009, but he's just 25 years old and was expected to serve as the Nationals' starting right fielder this season. On top of that, he was only going to require a $444,000 salary in 2010. It's not clear who will start in right field.
A .337 OBP? Not bad, eh? The SLG is awful. I know the Cubs probably have no room for him, but I just thought this was interesting. He was supposed to start for Washington this year.
He's a Milton style POS. Just not nearly as good. I'm glad the Nats ditched this guy. I think they can be a fun team this year and really piss some people off. I guess since they'll inevitably piss me off when they beat up on the Cubs this will backfire. Still, I like that team to spoil. They still need more pitching.
He basically required a babysitter to keep an eye on him so as to steer him away from violating his parole, if I recall correctly. Pretty sure he was the pot-smoking, girlfriend beating, gun-wielding douchebag of the Nationals. I'd be shocked if Hendry hasn't already contacted his agent...
To be fair, only one of these things is bad.
True.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 19, 2010, 06:54:10 PM
Pretty sure he was the pot-smoking, girlfriend beating, gun-wielding douchebag of the Nationals.
To be fair, only one of these things is bad.
[/quote]
Yeah, the Nationals are truly bad team.
So it looks like (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0321-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100319,0,5409248.story) the bullpen is going to be full of young whippersnappers this year. Works for me. I'm sick of watching talentless old bastards like Howry and Heilman out there.
QuoteBullpen: Justin Berg and Esmailin Caridad are in, leaving four vying for one spot. Of course, as Piniella says, "assuming we don't do anything" via trade.
The four are lefties James Russell and John Gaub and right-handers Marcos Mateo and Mike Parisi.
Anyone I should prefer here? I remember hearing good things about Gaub last season, never heard of the other guys.
As for the rotation, it looks like Sloth and the cancerous lump known as Silva will start the season on the anus of the rotation.
QuoteThe fourth and fifth spots are open, although it appears lefty Tom Gorzelanny and right-hander Carlos Silva are the leaders right now. That puts lefty Sean Marshall and right-hander Jeff Samardzija in the bullpen.
Finally, GOD. DAMMIT.
QuoteRight now, it seems to be races between Kevin Millar and Chad Tracy for an infield spot and Sam Fuld and Tyler Colvin for an outfield spot.
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
So it looks like (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0321-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100319,0,5409248.story) the bullpen is going to be full of young whippersnappers this year. Works for me. I'm sick of watching talentless old bastards like Howry and Heilman out there.
QuoteBullpen: Justin Berg and Esmailin Caridad are in, leaving four vying for one spot. Of course, as Piniella says, "assuming we don't do anything" via trade.
The four are lefties James Russell and John Gaub and right-handers Marcos Mateo and Mike Parisi.
Anyone I should prefer here? I remember hearing good things about Gaub last season, never heard of the other guys.
As for the rotation, it looks like Sloth and the cancerous lump known as Silva will start the season on the anus of the rotation.
QuoteThe fourth and fifth spots are open, although it appears lefty Tom Gorzelanny and right-hander Carlos Silva are the leaders right now. That puts lefty Sean Marshall and right-hander Jeff Samardzija in the bullpen.
Finally, GOD. DAMMIT.
QuoteRight now, it seems to be races between Kevin Millar and Chad Tracy for an infield spot and Sam Fuld and Tyler Colvin for an outfield spot.
I get your excitement for the bullpen. It's the same kind of excitement Jim Hendry gets when he feels a tingle in his left arm. Is it a heart attack? A stroke? Both? Can't wait to find out.
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
So it looks like (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0321-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100319,0,5409248.story) the bullpen is going to be full of young whippersnappers this year. Works for me. I'm sick of watching talentless old bastards like Howry and Heilman out there.
QuoteBullpen: Justin Berg and Esmailin Caridad are in, leaving four vying for one spot. Of course, as Piniella says, "assuming we don't do anything" via trade.
The four are lefties James Russell and John Gaub and right-handers Marcos Mateo and Mike Parisi.
Anyone I should prefer here? I remember hearing good things about Gaub last season, never heard of the other guys.
As for the rotation, it looks like Sloth and the cancerous lump known as Silva will start the season on the anus of the rotation.
QuoteThe fourth and fifth spots are open, although it appears lefty Tom Gorzelanny and right-hander Carlos Silva are the leaders right now. That puts lefty Sean Marshall and right-hander Jeff Samardzija in the bullpen.
Finally, GOD. DAMMIT.
QuoteRight now, it seems to be races between Kevin Millar and Chad Tracy for an infield spot and Sam Fuld and Tyler Colvin for an outfield spot.
As for the bullpen, Mike Parisi's the rule 5 guy so he'll Patten his way onto the team. I've heard more about Gaub than the others but that might also be because he was from the DeRo the HeRo trade.
As far as Silva, as much as I hate him and want to see him die, I'm a little happy he's had a couple decent outings (had tightness in his last outing though. Quad, I believe). I'm not opposed to the Sloth. I love me some Marshall, but he has been a better bullpen guy than a starter.
Fuck Kevin Millar.
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2010, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
So it looks like (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0321-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100319,0,5409248.story) the bullpen is going to be full of young whippersnappers this year. Works for me. I'm sick of watching talentless old bastards like Howry and Heilman out there.
QuoteBullpen: Justin Berg and Esmailin Caridad are in, leaving four vying for one spot. Of course, as Piniella says, "assuming we don't do anything" via trade.
The four are lefties James Russell and John Gaub and right-handers Marcos Mateo and Mike Parisi.
Anyone I should prefer here? I remember hearing good things about Gaub last season, never heard of the other guys.
As for the rotation, it looks like Sloth and the cancerous lump known as Silva will start the season on the anus of the rotation.
QuoteThe fourth and fifth spots are open, although it appears lefty Tom Gorzelanny and right-hander Carlos Silva are the leaders right now. That puts lefty Sean Marshall and right-hander Jeff Samardzija in the bullpen.
Finally, GOD. DAMMIT.
QuoteRight now, it seems to be races between Kevin Millar and Chad Tracy for an infield spot and Sam Fuld and Tyler Colvin for an outfield spot.
As for the bullpen, Mike Parisi's the rule 5 guy so he'll Patten his way onto the team. I've heard more about Gaub than the others but that might also be because he was from the DeRo the HeRo trade.
As far as Silva, as much as I hate him and want to see him die, I'm a little happy he's had a couple decent outings (had tightness in his last outing though. Quad, I believe). I'm not opposed to the Sloth. I love me some Marshall, but he has been a better bullpen guy than a starter.
Fuck Kevin Millar.
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2010, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
So it looks like (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0321-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100319,0,5409248.story) the bullpen is going to be full of young whippersnappers this year. Works for me. I'm sick of watching talentless old bastards like Howry and Heilman out there.
QuoteBullpen: Justin Berg and Esmailin Caridad are in, leaving four vying for one spot. Of course, as Piniella says, "assuming we don't do anything" via trade.
The four are lefties James Russell and John Gaub and right-handers Marcos Mateo and Mike Parisi.
Anyone I should prefer here? I remember hearing good things about Gaub last season, never heard of the other guys.
As for the rotation, it looks like Sloth and the cancerous lump known as Silva will start the season on the anus of the rotation.
QuoteThe fourth and fifth spots are open, although it appears lefty Tom Gorzelanny and right-hander Carlos Silva are the leaders right now. That puts lefty Sean Marshall and right-hander Jeff Samardzija in the bullpen.
Finally, GOD. DAMMIT.
QuoteRight now, it seems to be races between Kevin Millar and Chad Tracy for an infield spot and Sam Fuld and Tyler Colvin for an outfield spot.
As for the bullpen, Mike Parisi's the rule 5 guy so he'll Patten his way onto the team. I've heard more about Gaub than the others but that might also be because he was from the DeRo the HeRo trade.
As far as Silva, as much as I hate him and want to see him die, I'm a little happy he's had a couple decent outings (had tightness in his last outing though. Quad, I believe). I'm not opposed to the Sloth. I love me some Marshall, but he has been a better bullpen guy than a starter.
Fuck Kevin Millar.
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Yea. He had a 1.40 ERA, and for those who are statfaggy, his FIP was 2.27. Now this was just 19.1 innings so he could actually blow, but "expert" opinions have said he has the stuff and he's pretty good.
Who Is John Gaub?
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
You'll be Eh-smilin' when Caridad puts up a sub-3 ERA? [/worse than Fork]
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
No.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 22, 2010, 10:57:24 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
No.
IAN's naming his kid Esmailin, jerk.
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
Rosenbloom?
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2010, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
Rosenbloom?
That would have gone something like this:
EsFAILIN CariBAD.
That was easier than I thought.
EDIT: Also can be modified to He'sFailin VeryBad.
Next stop: my own Trib column.
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 11:29:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2010, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
Rosenbloom?
That would have gone something like this:
EsFAILIN CariBAD.
That was easier than I thought.
EDIT: Also can be modified to He'sFailin VeryBad.
Next stop: my own Trib column.
How about AOL Fanhouse?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 22, 2010, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 11:29:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2010, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
Rosenbloom?
That would have gone something like this:
EsFAILIN CariBAD.
That was easier than I thought.
EDIT: Also can be modified to He'sFailin VeryBad.
Next stop: my own Trib column.
How about AOL Fanhouse?
The door at Bleacher Report is always open. Wide open. Actually there's not even a door.
Quote from: Day Man on March 22, 2010, 12:33:11 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 22, 2010, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 11:29:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2010, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
Rosenbloom?
That would have gone something like this:
EsFAILIN CariBAD.
That was easier than I thought.
EDIT: Also can be modified to He'sFailin VeryBad.
Next stop: my own Trib column.
How about AOL Fanhouse?
The door at Bleacher Report is always open. Wide open. Actually there's not even a door.
That and Huey's mom
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2010, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: Day Man on March 22, 2010, 12:33:11 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 22, 2010, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 11:29:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2010, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 22, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I'll admit that I didn't see much of the Cubs in September last year due to extreme apathy but wasn't Caridad pretty decent? What are the expectations on this guy?
Statistically, he kicked ass last year in limited innings: 1.40 ERA and .931 WHIP in 19 innings,
and all 3 of the runs he gave up were in his first two games. At the same time, it was only
19 innings, it was mostly against shit teams, and his minor league numbers aren't very good.
I hope he's good, obviously, but I would bet on mid 3's to mid 4's ERA.
Considering the overpaid assholes like Borb Howry and Fourthmeal were doing something similar to your projections, I'd take that any day from E-Mail Carrot Dad.
Ok, that's a horrible name. I'm starting to see ArrVee's excitement in a non life-threatening ailment kinda way.
Rosenbloom?
That would have gone something like this:
EsFAILIN CariBAD.
That was easier than I thought.
EDIT: Also can be modified to He'sFailin VeryBad.
Next stop: my own Trib column.
How about AOL Fanhouse?
The door at Bleacher Report is always open. Wide open. Actually there's not even a door.
That and Huey's mom
BOOM ROASTED
I've been kind of anxious for this: Organizational Ranking (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-18-chicago-cubs/)
Current Talent (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-current-talent-cubs)
Future Talent (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-future-talent-cubs)
Also:
QuoteThis is what happens when a team signs a free agent at or around his current market value, but then pays him that same rate years and years into the future, as if the player is a baseball version of Richard Alpert, impervious to the effects of aging.
Quote from: Yeti on March 23, 2010, 12:48:34 PM
I've been kind of anxious for this: Organizational Ranking (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-18-chicago-cubs/)
Current Talent (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-current-talent-cubs)
Future Talent (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-future-talent-cubs)
Also:
QuoteThis is what happens when a team signs a free agent at or around his current market value, but then pays him that same rate years and years into the future, as if the player is a baseball version of Richard Alpert, impervious to the effects of aging.
Wha-?
QuoteUp the middle, Ryan Theriot's slick glove work and decent offense make him a good, if not breath-taking option at shortstop.
Quote from: Day Man on March 23, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
QuoteUp the middle, Ryan Theriot's slick glove work and decent offense make him a good, if not breath-taking option at shortstop.
UZR says Theriot is a good defensive shortshop, so the nerds at Fangraphs take it as the truth.
I was driving across the Centennial Bridge here in the Quad Cities and out the passenger side window I saw them getting the local minor league park in shape for the upcoming season, and god damnit, I was excited for baseball season. Right after that initial wave of enthusiasm all of the familiar criticisms came flooding back and I started worrying about the back of the rotation, the lack of experience (and probably talent) in the bullpen, the aging of Ramirez, Lee, Soriano, etc. and you know what? Fuck it. Baseball season is two weeks away. I'm slapping on the optimism and saying that it's the year. All they need is about 20 career years and this team is a fucking lock to win it all. I've got all of July and the rest of the year to be pissy and grumpy, but damnit, I'm too young to be as bitter as Huey and too likeable to be as pessimistic as Chuck. I managed to convince myself that a team with Mark Clark starting a playoff game could win a World Series, why can't I do the same now? So fuck y'all. Bring on the crack of the bat, James Earl Jones, Eddie Vedder sap and play ball.
Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 11:08:12 PM
I was driving across the Centennial Bridge here in the Quad Cities and out the passenger side window I saw them getting the local minor league park in shape for the upcoming season, and god damnit, I was excited for baseball season. Right after that initial wave of enthusiasm all of the familiar criticisms came flooding back and I started worrying about the back of the rotation, the lack of experience (and probably talent) in the bullpen, the aging of Ramirez, Lee, Soriano, etc. and you know what? Fuck it. Baseball season is two weeks away. I'm slapping on the optimism and saying that it's the year. All they need is about 20 career years and this team is a fucking lock to win it all. I've got all of July and the rest of the year to be pissy and grumpy, but damnit, I'm too young to be as bitter as Huey and too likeable to be as pessimistic as Chuck. I managed to convince myself that a team with Mark Clark starting a playoff game could win a World Series, why can't I do the same now? So fuck y'all. Bring on the crack of the bat, James Earl Jones, Eddie Vedder sap and play ball.
I have tickets to like 10 games this year and leave for Arizona in the morning. Yet, I haven't been less excited about a baseball season since 1995 after the strike. In those days I was a soon-to-be high school graduate with no college plans. I'd recently been arrested and kicked off the baseball team right before the season started. All I cared about was my girlfriend, getting chiefed with my friends, listening to Wu-Tang and watching New York Knicks basketball. My life is completely different now. In the past 15 years I've worked my fucking ass off to get into the position I'm in now. I'll have the resources and the proximity to truly enjoy this season the way I always dreamed I would during those dark days between the corn and the beans with an outlook less promising than the prophecies of Nostradomous. What happened along the way? Did I change? Fuck no. The 2008 playoffs happened and then last year happened and now I'm just kind of done. The emotion, the love, the angst. Meh. I'm that guy now. Just give me a beer and a seat in the sun. I'll look at some titties and forget who plays second for every team in the league.
Go Boilers though.
Quote from: Eli on March 23, 2010, 10:53:50 PM
Quote from: Day Man on March 23, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
QuoteUp the middle, Ryan Theriot's slick glove work and decent offense make him a good, if not breath-taking option at shortstop.
UZR says Theriot is a good defensive shortshop, so the nerds at Fangraphs take it as the truth.
Well his Range Runs Above Average has been just below zero for the last couple of years and this year it went up to 5.7. And yea, his UZR was good in 07 and 09 (Average in 08). He may be a complete PANK at times but I'll accept that he's not as horrible of a SS that we all have assumed.
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 05:03:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 23, 2010, 10:53:50 PM
Quote from: Day Man on March 23, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
QuoteUp the middle, Ryan Theriot's slick glove work and decent offense make him a good, if not breath-taking option at shortstop.
UZR says Theriot is a good defensive shortshop, so the nerds at Fangraphs take it as the truth.
Well his Range Runs Above Average has been just below zero for the last couple of years and this year it went up to 5.7. And yea, his UZR was good in 07 and 09 (Average in 08). He may be a complete PANK at times but I'll accept that he's not as horrible of a SS that we all have assumed.
I've never thought Theriot was
horrible. But I have thought settling for Theriot when better options exist on earth is horrible policy.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 11:08:12 PM
I was driving across the Centennial Bridge here in the Quad Cities and out the passenger side window I saw them getting the local minor league park in shape for the upcoming season, and god damnit, I was excited for baseball season. Right after that initial wave of enthusiasm all of the familiar criticisms came flooding back and I started worrying about the back of the rotation, the lack of experience (and probably talent) in the bullpen, the aging of Ramirez, Lee, Soriano, etc. and you know what? Fuck it. Baseball season is two weeks away. I'm slapping on the optimism and saying that it's the year. All they need is about 20 career years and this team is a fucking lock to win it all. I've got all of July and the rest of the year to be pissy and grumpy, but damnit, I'm too young to be as bitter as Huey and too likeable to be as pessimistic as Chuck. I managed to convince myself that a team with Mark Clark starting a playoff game could win a World Series, why can't I do the same now? So fuck y'all. Bring on the crack of the bat, James Earl Jones, Eddie Vedder sap and play ball.
I have tickets to like 10 games this year and leave for Arizona in the morning. Yet, I haven't been less excited about a baseball season since 1995 after the strike. In those days I was a soon-to-be high school graduate with no college plans. I'd recently been arrested and kicked off the baseball team right before the season started. All I cared about was my girlfriend, getting chiefed with my friends, listening to Wu-Tang and watching New York Knicks basketball. My life is completely different now. In the past 15 years I've worked my fucking ass off to get into the position I'm in now. I'll have the resources and the proximity to truly enjoy this season the way I always dreamed I would during those dark days between the corn and the beans with an outlook less promising than the prophecies of Nostradomous. What happened along the way? Did I change? Fuck no. The 2008 playoffs happened and then last year happened and now I'm just kind of done. The emotion, the love, the angst. Meh. I'm that guy now. Just give me a beer and a seat in the sun. I'll look at some titties and forget who plays second for every team in the league.
Go Boilers though.
This is exactly like my situation.
Well except for the fact that I didn't play baseball high school, have never been arrested, don't know what chief'd means, don't know who wu-tang is and don't live close enough to Chicago to get to 10 games a season.
But other than that, yeah, I'm just like you. The 2008 playoffs were like a kick in the bag with a hobnailed boot and last year was a year long car wreck. I've barely paid attention to what's been going on this spring. I'm sure I'll watch but I just feel "meh" about this ballclub. I can't even work up the energy to be pissed about the two smurfs starting in the middle of the infield.
I do admit something snapped in my after 2008. But I'm going to give it the old college try*this year.
*Pay attention for the first few weeks, then start skipping games to get drunk, then drop out for a year.
Quote from: Bort on March 24, 2010, 09:08:56 AM
I do admit something snapped in my after 2008. But I'm going to give it the old college try*this year.
*Pay attention for the first few weeks, then start skipping games to get drunk, then drop out for a year.
If 2008 wasn't a giant kick in the gonads, well, you don't have gonads. All I'm saying is I'm done pissing and moaning. Of course they're going to suck. Perhaps they won't. It's never stopped me from swallowing the Opening Day bullshit before, so here I go. Once more unto the breach bla blah.
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 09:12:03 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 24, 2010, 09:08:56 AM
I do admit something snapped in my after 2008. But I'm going to give it the old college try*this year.
*Pay attention for the first few weeks, then start skipping games to get drunk, then drop out for a year.
If 2008 wasn't a giant kick in the gonads, well, you don't have gonads. All I'm saying is I'm done pissing and moaning. Of course they're going to suck. Perhaps they won't. It's never stopped me from swallowing the Opening Day bullshit before, so here I go. Once more unto the breach bla blah.
Hey, I'm there for at least a few weeks!
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 24, 2010, 09:06:28 AM
don't know who wu-tang is
You're missing out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57athY1a0nU)
Quote from: Pre on March 24, 2010, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 24, 2010, 09:06:28 AM
don't know who wu-tang is
You're missing out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57athY1a0nU)
Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' to fuck wit.
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 09:33:40 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 24, 2010, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 24, 2010, 09:06:28 AM
don't know who wu-tang is
You're missing out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57athY1a0nU)
Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' to fuck wit.
Everyone needs to bring the motherfuckin' ruckus at least once.
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 09:33:40 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 24, 2010, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 24, 2010, 09:06:28 AM
don't know who wu-tang is
You're missing out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57athY1a0nU)
Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' to fuck wit.
(http://jamphat.com/rap/jamphat_files/image129.png)
Cubs officially sign a slope pitcher (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/cubs-sign-korean-sp-jin-yeong-kim.html)
QuoteAlthough the move was first reported as a rumor about a month ago, the Cubs recently had their signing of Korean starter Jin-Yeong Kim finalized for a reported bonus of $1.2 million.
Kim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010 and will join 6 other Korean players currently in the Cubs system.
The righty pitches off a fastball that runs 88-92 and mixes in three other pitches, including a slider, curveball, and change-up. While his stuff isn't dominating, Kim hangs his hat on his control, which is reportedly very good.
A senior in high school right now, Kim won't debut stateside until 2011, but looks to be the top prospect in Korea this year.
Kim's bonus was the highest given by the Cubs since 2001, when they shelled out $1.6 million for Jae-Kuk Ryu. For comparison, SS Hak-Ju Lee received $1.15 million in 2008 and SP Dae-Eun Rhee signed for $525,000 in 2007.
QuoteKim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010...
They're anticipating more?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 24, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
QuoteKim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010...
They're anticipating more?
[me]Sign one, and two hours later...[/me]
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 24, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
QuoteKim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010...
They're anticipating more?
I want to see what comes of Hak-Ju Lee. He's supposed to be pretty good, isn't he?
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 12:49:59 PM
Cubs officially sign a slope pitcher (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/cubs-sign-korean-sp-jin-yeong-kim.html)
QuoteAlthough the move was first reported as a rumor about a month ago, the Cubs recently had their signing of Korean starter Jin-Yeong Kim finalized for a reported bonus of $1.2 million.
Kim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010 and will join 6 other Korean players currently in the Cubs system.
The righty pitches off a fastball that runs 88-92 and mixes in three other pitches, including a slider, curveball, and change-up. While his stuff isn't dominating, Kim hangs his hat on his control, which is reportedly very good.
A senior in high school right now, Kim won't debut stateside until 2011, but looks to be the top prospect in Korea this year.
Kim's bonus was the highest given by the Cubs since 2001, when they shelled out $1.6 million for Jae-Kuk Ryu. For comparison, SS Hak-Ju Lee received $1.15 million in 2008 and SP Dae-Eun Rhee signed for $525,000 in 2007.
Koreans the Cubs have signed-
Hee Seop Choi- I needn't go into any further details.
Jae-Kuk Ryu-the bird killer with the 7.49 ERA and the 1.815 WHIP.
Dae-Eun Rhee (3.14 ERA and 1.274 WHIP) and Hak-Ju Lee (.399 OBP, .820 OPS) have been pretty solid in A ball, though. I wonder what they'll do with Lee if he's any good at short, because he's only a year younger than Castro.
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 12:49:59 PM
Cubs officially sign a slope pitcher (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/cubs-sign-korean-sp-jin-yeong-kim.html)
QuoteAlthough the move was first reported as a rumor about a month ago, the Cubs recently had their signing of Korean starter Jin-Yeong Kim finalized for a reported bonus of $1.2 million.
Kim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010 and will join 6 other Korean players currently in the Cubs system.
The righty pitches off a fastball that runs 88-92 and mixes in three other pitches, including a slider, curveball, and change-up. While his stuff isn't dominating, Kim hangs his hat on his control, which is reportedly very good.
A senior in high school right now, Kim won't debut stateside until 2011, but looks to be the top prospect in Korea this year.
Kim's bonus was the highest given by the Cubs since 2001, when they shelled out $1.6 million for Jae-Kuk Ryu. For comparison, SS Hak-Ju Lee received $1.15 million in 2008 and SP Dae-Eun Rhee signed for $525,000 in 2007.
Koreans the Cubs have signed-
Hee Seop Choi- I needn't go into any further details.
Jae-Kuk Ryu-the bird killer with the 7.49 ERA and the 1.815 WHIP.
Dae-Eun Rhee (3.14 ERA and 1.274 WHIP) and Hak-Ju Lee (.399 OBP, .820 OPS) have been pretty solid in A ball, though. I wonder what they'll do with Lee if he's any good at short, because he's only a year younger than Castro.
Put one of them at second. How hard is that?
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 12:49:59 PM
Cubs officially sign a slope pitcher (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/cubs-sign-korean-sp-jin-yeong-kim.html)
QuoteAlthough the move was first reported as a rumor about a month ago, the Cubs recently had their signing of Korean starter Jin-Yeong Kim finalized for a reported bonus of $1.2 million.
Kim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010 and will join 6 other Korean players currently in the Cubs system.
The righty pitches off a fastball that runs 88-92 and mixes in three other pitches, including a slider, curveball, and change-up. While his stuff isn't dominating, Kim hangs his hat on his control, which is reportedly very good.
A senior in high school right now, Kim won't debut stateside until 2011, but looks to be the top prospect in Korea this year.
Kim's bonus was the highest given by the Cubs since 2001, when they shelled out $1.6 million for Jae-Kuk Ryu. For comparison, SS Hak-Ju Lee received $1.15 million in 2008 and SP Dae-Eun Rhee signed for $525,000 in 2007.
Koreans the Cubs have signed-
Hee Seop Choi- I needn't go into any further details.
Jae-Kuk Ryu-the bird killer with the 7.49 ERA and the 1.815 WHIP.
Dae-Eun Rhee (3.14 ERA and 1.274 WHIP) and Hak-Ju Lee (.399 OBP, .820 OPS) have been pretty solid in A ball, though. I wonder what they'll do with Lee if he's any good at short, because he's only a year younger than Castro.
Put one of them at second. How hard is that?
But where will they put Ryan Theriot? He's got years and years left to play, and he's indispensable.
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:44:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 12:49:59 PM
Cubs officially sign a slope pitcher (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/cubs-sign-korean-sp-jin-yeong-kim.html)
QuoteAlthough the move was first reported as a rumor about a month ago, the Cubs recently had their signing of Korean starter Jin-Yeong Kim finalized for a reported bonus of $1.2 million.
Kim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010 and will join 6 other Korean players currently in the Cubs system.
The righty pitches off a fastball that runs 88-92 and mixes in three other pitches, including a slider, curveball, and change-up. While his stuff isn't dominating, Kim hangs his hat on his control, which is reportedly very good.
A senior in high school right now, Kim won't debut stateside until 2011, but looks to be the top prospect in Korea this year.
Kim's bonus was the highest given by the Cubs since 2001, when they shelled out $1.6 million for Jae-Kuk Ryu. For comparison, SS Hak-Ju Lee received $1.15 million in 2008 and SP Dae-Eun Rhee signed for $525,000 in 2007.
Koreans the Cubs have signed-
Hee Seop Choi- I needn't go into any further details.
Jae-Kuk Ryu-the bird killer with the 7.49 ERA and the 1.815 WHIP.
Dae-Eun Rhee (3.14 ERA and 1.274 WHIP) and Hak-Ju Lee (.399 OBP, .820 OPS) have been pretty solid in A ball, though. I wonder what they'll do with Lee if he's any good at short, because he's only a year younger than Castro.
Put one of them at second. How hard is that?
But where will they put Ryan Theriot? He's got years and years left to play, and he's indispensable.
And his defense is breathtaking.
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:44:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 12:49:59 PM
Cubs officially sign a slope pitcher (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/cubs-sign-korean-sp-jin-yeong-kim.html)
QuoteAlthough the move was first reported as a rumor about a month ago, the Cubs recently had their signing of Korean starter Jin-Yeong Kim finalized for a reported bonus of $1.2 million.
Kim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010 and will join 6 other Korean players currently in the Cubs system.
The righty pitches off a fastball that runs 88-92 and mixes in three other pitches, including a slider, curveball, and change-up. While his stuff isn't dominating, Kim hangs his hat on his control, which is reportedly very good.
A senior in high school right now, Kim won't debut stateside until 2011, but looks to be the top prospect in Korea this year.
Kim's bonus was the highest given by the Cubs since 2001, when they shelled out $1.6 million for Jae-Kuk Ryu. For comparison, SS Hak-Ju Lee received $1.15 million in 2008 and SP Dae-Eun Rhee signed for $525,000 in 2007.
Koreans the Cubs have signed-
Hee Seop Choi- I needn't go into any further details.
Jae-Kuk Ryu-the bird killer with the 7.49 ERA and the 1.815 WHIP.
Dae-Eun Rhee (3.14 ERA and 1.274 WHIP) and Hak-Ju Lee (.399 OBP, .820 OPS) have been pretty solid in A ball, though. I wonder what they'll do with Lee if he's any good at short, because he's only a year younger than Castro.
Put one of them at second. How hard is that?
But where will they put Ryan Theriot? He's got years and years left to play, and he's indispensable.
And his defense is breathtaking.
My farts are breathtaking.
Dusty's quotes are breathtaking:
"Certain guys are more conducive to hit than other guys."
I think he was just happy with himself for using the word "conducive" in proper context.
Quote from: powen01 on March 24, 2010, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:44:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 12:49:59 PM
Cubs officially sign a slope pitcher (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/cubs-sign-korean-sp-jin-yeong-kim.html)
QuoteAlthough the move was first reported as a rumor about a month ago, the Cubs recently had their signing of Korean starter Jin-Yeong Kim finalized for a reported bonus of $1.2 million.
Kim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010 and will join 6 other Korean players currently in the Cubs system.
The righty pitches off a fastball that runs 88-92 and mixes in three other pitches, including a slider, curveball, and change-up. While his stuff isn't dominating, Kim hangs his hat on his control, which is reportedly very good.
A senior in high school right now, Kim won't debut stateside until 2011, but looks to be the top prospect in Korea this year.
Kim's bonus was the highest given by the Cubs since 2001, when they shelled out $1.6 million for Jae-Kuk Ryu. For comparison, SS Hak-Ju Lee received $1.15 million in 2008 and SP Dae-Eun Rhee signed for $525,000 in 2007.
Koreans the Cubs have signed-
Hee Seop Choi- I needn't go into any further details.
Jae-Kuk Ryu-the bird killer with the 7.49 ERA and the 1.815 WHIP.
Dae-Eun Rhee (3.14 ERA and 1.274 WHIP) and Hak-Ju Lee (.399 OBP, .820 OPS) have been pretty solid in A ball, though. I wonder what they'll do with Lee if he's any good at short, because he's only a year younger than Castro.
Put one of them at second. How hard is that?
But where will they put Ryan Theriot? He's got years and years left to play, and he's indispensable.
And his defense is breathtaking.
My farts are breathtaking.
Care for a competition?
Quote from: Slaky on March 24, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 24, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2010, 12:49:59 PM
Cubs officially sign a slope pitcher (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/cubs-sign-korean-sp-jin-yeong-kim.html)
QuoteAlthough the move was first reported as a rumor about a month ago, the Cubs recently had their signing of Korean starter Jin-Yeong Kim finalized for a reported bonus of $1.2 million.
Kim becomes the club's first Korean signing of 2010 and will join 6 other Korean players currently in the Cubs system.
The righty pitches off a fastball that runs 88-92 and mixes in three other pitches, including a slider, curveball, and change-up. While his stuff isn't dominating, Kim hangs his hat on his control, which is reportedly very good.
A senior in high school right now, Kim won't debut stateside until 2011, but looks to be the top prospect in Korea this year.
Kim's bonus was the highest given by the Cubs since 2001, when they shelled out $1.6 million for Jae-Kuk Ryu. For comparison, SS Hak-Ju Lee received $1.15 million in 2008 and SP Dae-Eun Rhee signed for $525,000 in 2007.
Koreans the Cubs have signed-
Hee Seop Choi- I needn't go into any further details.
Jae-Kuk Ryu-the bird killer with the 7.49 ERA and the 1.815 WHIP.
Dae-Eun Rhee (3.14 ERA and 1.274 WHIP) and Hak-Ju Lee (.399 OBP, .820 OPS) have been pretty solid in A ball, though. I wonder what they'll do with Lee if he's any good at short, because he's only a year younger than Castro.
Put one of them at second. How hard is that?
They're too tall.
This is a good thread.
What the fuck, Lou? (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/tracy-marshall-come-up-big-for-cubs.html)
QuoteThird baseman Chad Tracy contributed a three-run double in the Cubs' 12-1 victory over Texas on Wednesday in his bid to make the roster.
But from the sound of manager Lou Piniella, Tracy is still behind Kevin Millar in the battle for the last infield spot.
"We've got (Jeff) Baker that can play some third," Piniella said before the game. "That's about it. Tracy gives us a left-handed bat replacement for (Aramis) Ramirez. You know, he really hasn't hit that well this spring. ... I'd like to see him smack it around a little bit here the last week or so."
I guess we just have to hope Sullivan is wrong again.
Quote from: R-V on March 24, 2010, 09:34:38 PM
What the fuck, Lou? (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/tracy-marshall-come-up-big-for-cubs.html)
QuoteThird baseman Chad Tracy contributed a three-run double in the Cubs' 12-1 victory over Texas on Wednesday in his bid to make the roster.
But from the sound of manager Lou Piniella, Tracy is still behind Kevin Millar in the battle for the last infield spot.
"We've got (Jeff) Baker that can play some third," Piniella said before the game. "That's about it. Tracy gives us a left-handed bat replacement for (Aramis) Ramirez. You know, he really hasn't hit that well this spring. ... I'd like to see him smack it around a little bit here the last week or so."
I guess we just have to hope Sullivan is wrong again.
Cowboy up.
I have a headache *this* big, and it's got KEVIN MILLAR written all over it.
Holy crap. Wouldn't the fact that Ramirez gave us another reminder this Spring that he's ding-prone make Tracy more valuable? Not that Tracy can play third anymore--he can't, he does suck, but for 2 months we could live with it--but Millar can't play anywhere. Goddamit. I blame Sullivan and Kaplan. Sullivan for befriending us dopes while underhandedly delivering his cynical Sox fan's heart's desires--making Cub fans all look like dumbass fucks who would actually want CURSE BUSTER Kevin Millar...like Dave Kaplan, who's convinced himself that it's gotta hai!
"It's just the 25th man, man. I WANNA LAFF"
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:27:35 AM
I have a headache *this* big, and it's got KEVIN MILLAR written all over it.
Holy crap. Wouldn't the fact that Ramirez gave us another reminder this Spring that he's ding-prone make Tracy more valuable? Not that Tracy can play third anymore--he can't, he does suck, but for 2 months we could live with it--but Millar can't play anywhere. Goddamit. I blame Sullivan and Kaplan. Sullivan for befriending us dopes while underhandedly delivering his cynical Sox fan's heart's desires--making Cub fans all look like dumbass fucks who would actually want CURSE BUSTER Kevin Millar...like Dave Kaplan, who's convinced himself that it's gotta hai!
"It's just the 25th man, man. I WANNA LAFF"
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:27:35 AM
I have a headache *this* big, and it's got KEVIN MILLAR written all over it.
Holy crap. Wouldn't the fact that Ramirez gave us another reminder this Spring that he's ding-prone make Tracy more valuable? Not that Tracy can play third anymore--he can't, he does suck, but for 2 months we could live with it--but Millar can't play anywhere. Goddamit. I blame Sullivan and Kaplan. Sullivan for befriending us dopes while underhandedly delivering his cynical Sox fan's heart's desires--making Cub fans all look like dumbass fucks who would actually want CURSE BUSTER Kevin Millar...like Dave Kaplan, who's convinced himself that it's gotta hai!
"It's just the 25th man, man. I WANNA LAFF"
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Seriously, are you a plant from ACB?
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:27:35 AM
I have a headache *this* big, and it's got KEVIN MILLAR written all over it.
Holy crap. Wouldn't the fact that Ramirez gave us another reminder this Spring that he's ding-prone make Tracy more valuable? Not that Tracy can play third anymore--he can't, he does suck, but for 2 months we could live with it--but Millar can't play anywhere. Goddamit. I blame Sullivan and Kaplan. Sullivan for befriending us dopes while underhandedly delivering his cynical Sox fan's heart's desires--making Cub fans all look like dumbass fucks who would actually want CURSE BUSTER Kevin Millar...like Dave Kaplan, who's convinced himself that it's gotta hai!
"It's just the 25th man, man. I WANNA LAFF"
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Seriously, are you a plant from ACB?
It's like he's reading from a script. No one talks like that here.
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:27:35 AM
I have a headache *this* big, and it's got KEVIN MILLAR written all over it.
Holy crap. Wouldn't the fact that Ramirez gave us another reminder this Spring that he's ding-prone make Tracy more valuable? Not that Tracy can play third anymore--he can't, he does suck, but for 2 months we could live with it--but Millar can't play anywhere. Goddamit. I blame Sullivan and Kaplan. Sullivan for befriending us dopes while underhandedly delivering his cynical Sox fan's heart's desires--making Cub fans all look like dumbass fucks who would actually want CURSE BUSTER Kevin Millar...like Dave Kaplan, who's convinced himself that it's gotta hai!
"It's just the 25th man, man. I WANNA LAFF"
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Seriously, are you a plant from ACB?
I'm just saying that if Baker's decent at 3rd, then he would be a better offensive option than Tracy at 3rd if Aramis goes down. If he has that versatility then the Cubs aren't "handcuffed" to keeping a guy just because of the position he plays. Not to sound like a Kaplan, but I'm not too worried about the 25th man. Not because he's the "insignificant" 25th man, because that position is significant, but no matter who they keep, they'll suck.
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:54:04 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:27:35 AM
I have a headache *this* big, and it's got KEVIN MILLAR written all over it.
Holy crap. Wouldn't the fact that Ramirez gave us another reminder this Spring that he's ding-prone make Tracy more valuable? Not that Tracy can play third anymore--he can't, he does suck, but for 2 months we could live with it--but Millar can't play anywhere. Goddamit. I blame Sullivan and Kaplan. Sullivan for befriending us dopes while underhandedly delivering his cynical Sox fan's heart's desires--making Cub fans all look like dumbass fucks who would actually want CURSE BUSTER Kevin Millar...like Dave Kaplan, who's convinced himself that it's gotta hai!
"It's just the 25th man, man. I WANNA LAFF"
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Seriously, are you a plant from ACB?
I'm just saying that if Baker's decent at 3rd, then he would be a better offensive option than Tracy at 3rd if Aramis goes down. If he has that versatility then the Cubs aren't "handcuffed" to keeping a guy just because of the position he plays. Not to sound like a Kaplan, but I'm not too worried about the 25th man. Not because he's the "insignificant" 25th man, because that position is significant, but no matter who they keep, they'll suck.
The important question here is how the fuck does Kevin Millar play third when Aramis goes on the DL? Moreover, how the fuck does Kevin Millar make any sense on this roster? Fuck. This. Shit.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 25, 2010, 09:59:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:54:04 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 25, 2010, 08:27:35 AM
I have a headache *this* big, and it's got KEVIN MILLAR written all over it.
Holy crap. Wouldn't the fact that Ramirez gave us another reminder this Spring that he's ding-prone make Tracy more valuable? Not that Tracy can play third anymore--he can't, he does suck, but for 2 months we could live with it--but Millar can't play anywhere. Goddamit. I blame Sullivan and Kaplan. Sullivan for befriending us dopes while underhandedly delivering his cynical Sox fan's heart's desires--making Cub fans all look like dumbass fucks who would actually want CURSE BUSTER Kevin Millar...like Dave Kaplan, who's convinced himself that it's gotta hai!
"It's just the 25th man, man. I WANNA LAFF"
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Seriously, are you a plant from ACB?
I'm just saying that if Baker's decent at 3rd, then he would be a better offensive option than Tracy at 3rd if Aramis goes down. If he has that versatility then the Cubs aren't "handcuffed" to keeping a guy just because of the position he plays. Not to sound like a Kaplan, but I'm not too worried about the 25th man. Not because he's the "insignificant" 25th man, because that position is significant, but no matter who they keep, they'll suck.
The important question here is how the fuck does Kevin Millar play third when Aramis goes on the DL? Moreover, how the fuck does Kevin Millar make any sense on this roster? Fuck. This. Shit.
Because we need a full time backup to a guy who plays 150 games a year.
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Do you ever actually watch or follow the actual Chicago Cubs baseball team?
Is this a fake Muskbag question?
I mean, if you watched or followed the Cubs you'd remember that Baker played third a
decent amount last season and has been playing there some in spring training and in
general is considered a reasonable backup able to handle the position. Hell, if you just
managed to pull up baseball-reference you would see he's played a decent amount of
third over his career and is at least decent at it.
This has been a loooooooooooooong offseason.
Quote from: Pre on March 25, 2010, 11:03:11 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Do you ever actually watch or follow the actual Chicago Cubs baseball team?
Is this a fake Muskbag question?
I mean, if you watched or followed the Cubs you'd remember that Baker played third a
decent amount last season and has been playing there some in spring training and in
general is considered a reasonable backup able to handle the position. Hell, if you just
managed to pull up baseball-reference you would see he's played a decent amount of
third over his career and is at least decent at it.
I didn't look it up, nor do I get to watch too many games, since they play a lot of them during the day. He played 17 games at 3rd last year and 10 of them were in August/September, when I moved to apathetic mode. So, no, I don't really recall how he fared. Out of those 10, I assume I watched maybe 2 of them.
Looking at his Faggraphs UZR, it looks like he's just below average in 41 games.
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: Pre on March 25, 2010, 11:03:11 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Not that I want Millar but have the Cubs tried out Baker at 3rd? I ask because I heard that he was supposed to be 2010's DeRosa and if so, any indications on if he's any good?
Do you ever actually watch or follow the actual Chicago Cubs baseball team?
Is this a fake Muskbag question?
I mean, if you watched or followed the Cubs you'd remember that Baker played third a
decent amount last season and has been playing there some in spring training and in
general is considered a reasonable backup able to handle the position. Hell, if you just
managed to pull up baseball-reference you would see he's played a decent amount of
third over his career and is at least decent at it.
I didn't look it up, nor do I get to watch too many games, since they play a lot of them during the day. He played 17 games at 3rd last year and 10 of them were in August/September, when I moved to apathetic mode. So, no, I don't really recall how he fared. Out of those 10, I assume I watched maybe 2 of them.
Looking at his Faggraphs UZR, it looks like he's just below average in 41 games.
Faggraphs thinks Theriot is awesome, therefore Jeff Baker is somewhere between Scott Rolen and Cal Ripken.
An interesting analysis on Derrek Lee's 2010 season projections.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Does-Derrek-Lee-have-another-great-season-in-his?urn=mlb,230212
DOOMEDIT: Your good friend Paul has tweeted that Derrek Lee is getting treatment for a bad back injured in, what else, a chair collapsing accident. Yep.
He should be fine by tomorrow.
Quote from: Yeti on March 25, 2010, 11:15:58 AM
Looking at his Faggraphs UZR, it looks like he's just below average in 41 games.
UZR is generally considered somewhere around 3 times as noisy as most hitting stats.
You really want at least 3 year averages of UZR before you start to make evaluations
of it, which is one of it's main criticisms. Someone's UZR for 40 partial games is like
looking at their hitting over 20-40 ABs, it just doesn't mean much.
Quote from: Pre on March 25, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
UZR is generally considered somewhere around 3 times as noisy as most hitting stats.
And it's even more noisy for positions like corner infielders.
Tyler Colvin is 3 for 4 so far today and is pretty damn awesome. I don't care what anyone says, my irrational man crush of 2010 is Colvin.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 27, 2010, 05:01:01 PM
Tyler Colvin is 3 for 4 so far today and is pretty damn awesome. I don't care what anyone says, my irrational man crush of 2010 is Colvin.
I still have a taste for COBRA PIE.
Quote from: Slaky on March 25, 2010, 11:07:19 AM
This has been a loooooooooooooong offseason.
That's because it started in August.
Quote from: JD on March 27, 2010, 05:42:14 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 27, 2010, 05:01:01 PM
Tyler Colvin is 3 for 4 so far today and is pretty damn awesome. I don't care what anyone says, my irrational man crush of 2010 is Colvin.
I still have a taste for COBRA PIE.
I'm with Jaydee.
HE STILL HAS A CHANCE TO PROVE PEOPLE WRONG!
As for Colvin, he may have "earned" a roster spot, but if he's a real prospect how could they not start him in Iowa? There's no upside to keeping him now. What are they going to do--start him over a more proven player like Fukudome, wherein Colvin could still conceivably crash and burn worse than Fuku in late '08 and have his progress severely retarded? But then how would that compare to the alternative, wherein the kid is called on to pinch-hit in pressure situations? It's okay to have a crush on the guy now, but to advocate for him to make the roster is lunacy to me.
Quote from: MAD on March 28, 2010, 11:29:00 AM
Quote from: JD on March 27, 2010, 05:42:14 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 27, 2010, 05:01:01 PM
Tyler Colvin is 3 for 4 so far today and is pretty damn awesome. I don't care what anyone says, my irrational man crush of 2010 is Colvin.
I still have a taste for COBRA PIE.
I'm with Jaydee.
HE STILL HAS A CHANCE TO PROVE PEOPLE WRONG!
As for Colvin, he may have "earned" a roster spot, but if he's a real prospect how could they not start him in Iowa? There's no upside to keeping him now. What are they going to do--start him over a more proven player like Fukudome, wherein Colvin could still conceivably crash and burn worse than Fuku in late '08 and have his progress severely retarded? But then how would that compare to the alternative, wherein the kid is called on to pinch-hit in pressure situations? It's okay to have a crush on the guy now, but to advocate for him to make the roster is lunacy to me.
One theory I've read suggests that he'll see a lot of PT in LF while Soriano's leg gets back to 100%, while spending some games in CF with Byrd shifting to RF against lefties, up until May/June when Nady gets healthy. Inevitably he will probably either find himself demoted to Iowa in order to get some more ABs, or he'll push Fuku out of the regular lineup all together, giving the Cubs both the most expensive middle reliever and backup outfielder in baseball. I'm thinking, though, that it will be the former.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 11:08:12 PM
I was driving across the Centennial Bridge here in the Quad Cities and out the passenger side window I saw them getting the local minor league park in shape for the upcoming season, and god damnit, I was excited for baseball season. Right after that initial wave of enthusiasm all of the familiar criticisms came flooding back and I started worrying about the back of the rotation, the lack of experience (and probably talent) in the bullpen, the aging of Ramirez, Lee, Soriano, etc. and you know what? Fuck it. Baseball season is two weeks away. I'm slapping on the optimism and saying that it's the year. All they need is about 20 career years and this team is a fucking lock to win it all. I've got all of July and the rest of the year to be pissy and grumpy, but damnit, I'm too young to be as bitter as Huey and too likeable to be as pessimistic as Chuck. I managed to convince myself that a team with Mark Clark starting a playoff game could win a World Series, why can't I do the same now? So fuck y'all. Bring on the crack of the bat, James Earl Jones, Eddie Vedder sap and play ball.
I have tickets to like 10 games this year and leave for Arizona in the morning. Yet, I haven't been less excited about a baseball season since 1995 after the strike. In those days I was a soon-to-be high school graduate with no college plans. I'd recently been arrested and kicked off the baseball team right before the season started. All I cared about was my girlfriend, getting chiefed with my friends, listening to Wu-Tang and watching New York Knicks basketball. My life is completely different now. In the past 15 years I've worked my fucking ass off to get into the position I'm in now. I'll have the resources and the proximity to truly enjoy this season the way I always dreamed I would during those dark days between the corn and the beans with an outlook less promising than the prophecies of Nostradomous. What happened along the way? Did I change? Fuck no. The 2008 playoffs happened and then last year happened and now I'm just kind of done. The emotion, the love, the angst. Meh. I'm that guy now. Just give me a beer and a seat in the sun. I'll look at some titties and forget who plays second for every team in the league. GO CUBS GO!!!111!!!!
Go Boilers though Bulldogs!!11!!!!!!
Mesa'd.
This happened. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100328&content_id=8976604&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc)
QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
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QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
Shit, I never thought I'd be rooting for
SAM FULD.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
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QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
What a shit carousel that is. Yeesh.
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2010, 07:04:55 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
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QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
What a shit carousel that is. Yeesh.
The worst of those four is the one most likely to be kept. DOOM!
Quote from: morpheus on March 28, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2010, 07:04:55 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
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QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
What a shit carousel that is. Yeesh.
The worst of those four is the one most likely to be kept. DOOM!
Is crab juice an option?
Quote from: Bort on March 28, 2010, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: morpheus on March 28, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2010, 07:04:55 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
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QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
What a shit carousel that is. Yeesh.
The worst of those four is the one most likely to be kept. DOOM!
Is crab juice an option?
Or Mountain Dew.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 28, 2010, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 28, 2010, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: morpheus on March 28, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2010, 07:04:55 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
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QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
What a shit carousel that is. Yeesh.
The worst of those four is the one most likely to be kept. DOOM!
Is crab juice an option?
Or Mountain Dew.
Aw god, yech, ah, that's disgusting.
I'll take Chad Tracy.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 28, 2010, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 28, 2010, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: morpheus on March 28, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2010, 07:04:55 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
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QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
What a shit carousel that is. Yeesh.
The worst of those four is the one most likely to be kept. DOOM!
Is crab juice an option?
Or Mountain Dew.
Shit, that's what's up. TEC knows what I'm talking about. Sorry if I stepped on a particularly stirring Simpsons reference but I'll take jug of that stuff any day of the week over the bucket of spit mentioned above.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 28, 2010, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 28, 2010, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: morpheus on March 28, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2010, 07:04:55 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
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QuotePEORIA, Ariz. -- Tyler Colvin is in.
Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Sunday the young outfielder, who was batting .475 this spring, has made the Opening Day 25-man roster.
There are now four players -- Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld -- battling for one spot on the Cubs' bench.
What a shit carousel that is. Yeesh.
The worst of those four is the one most likely to be kept. DOOM!
Is crab juice an option?
Or Mountain Dew.
Shit, that's what's up. TEC knows what I'm talking about. Sorry if I stepped on a particularly stirring Simpsons reference but I'll take jug of that stuff any day of the week over the bucket of spit mentioned above.
Those that refuse it are few.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 02:41:46 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 23, 2010, 11:08:12 PM
I was driving across the Centennial Bridge here in the Quad Cities and out the passenger side window I saw them getting the local minor league park in shape for the upcoming season, and god damnit, I was excited for baseball season. Right after that initial wave of enthusiasm all of the familiar criticisms came flooding back and I started worrying about the back of the rotation, the lack of experience (and probably talent) in the bullpen, the aging of Ramirez, Lee, Soriano, etc. and you know what? Fuck it. Baseball season is two weeks away. I'm slapping on the optimism and saying that it's the year. All they need is about 20 career years and this team is a fucking lock to win it all. I've got all of July and the rest of the year to be pissy and grumpy, but damnit, I'm too young to be as bitter as Huey and too likeable to be as pessimistic as Chuck. I managed to convince myself that a team with Mark Clark starting a playoff game could win a World Series, why can't I do the same now? So fuck y'all. Bring on the crack of the bat, James Earl Jones, Eddie Vedder sap and play ball.
I have tickets to like 10 games this year and leave for Arizona in the morning. Yet, I haven't been less excited about a baseball season since 1995 after the strike. In those days I was a soon-to-be high school graduate with no college plans. I'd recently been arrested and kicked off the baseball team right before the season started. All I cared about was my girlfriend, getting chiefed with my friends, listening to Wu-Tang and watching New York Knicks basketball. My life is completely different now. In the past 15 years I've worked my fucking ass off to get into the position I'm in now. I'll have the resources and the proximity to truly enjoy this season the way I always dreamed I would during those dark days between the corn and the beans with an outlook less promising than the prophecies of Nostradomous. What happened along the way? Did I change? Fuck no. The 2008 playoffs happened and then last year happened and now I'm just kind of done. The emotion, the love, the angst. Meh. I'm that guy now. Just give me a beer and a seat in the sun. I'll look at some titties and forget who plays second for every team in the league. GO CUBS GO!!!111!!!!
Go Boilers though Bulldogs!!11!!!!!!
Mesa'd.
Fuck yeah. Sorry 'bout your Boilers, though.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 27, 2010, 05:01:01 PM
Tyler Colvin is 3 for 4 so far today and is pretty damn awesome. still hasn't drawn a walk this spring.
Gonna suck'd.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 10:49:44 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 27, 2010, 05:01:01 PM
Tyler Colvin is 3 for 4 so far today and is pretty damn awesome. still hasn't drawn a walk this spring.
Gonna suck'd.
You would bitch about a guy hitting .468 just because hasn't drawn a walk. Gay ass, shit talkin' about Jay Mariotti, statfaggot. HEY, QUEER-O, what does a .468 batting average and zero walks equal? Oh yeah, a .468 OBP. Which is higher than mother fucking Ty Cobb's career OBP, and he's a guy I'm sure you cock suckers would have loved because you're all racist dick chuggers like him anyways. Fucking intolerant faggots.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 10:49:44 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 27, 2010, 05:01:01 PM
Tyler Colvin is 3 for 4 so far today and is pretty damn awesome. still hasn't drawn a walk this spring.
Gonna suck'd.
Aramis doesn't have any walks this spring either. Therefore, Colvin will be awesome.
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 10:49:44 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 27, 2010, 05:01:01 PM
Tyler Colvin is 3 for 4 so far today and is pretty damn awesome. still hasn't drawn a walk this spring.
Gonna suck'd.
You would bitch about a guy hitting .468 just because hasn't drawn a walk. Gay ass, shit talkin' about Jay Mariotti, statfaggot. HEY, QUEER-O, what does a .468 batting average and zero walks equal? Oh yeah, a .468 OBP. Which is higher than mother fucking Ty Cobb's career OBP, and he's a guy I'm sure you cock suckers would have loved because you're all racist dick chuggers like him anyways. Fucking intolerant faggots.
Gary Scott says hi.
Does anyone walk a lot in Spring Training? I'd think pitchers are trying to get their command of the strike zone, and hitters are trying to get swings in.
Quote from: Fork on March 29, 2010, 12:52:05 PM
Does anyone walk a lot in Spring Training? I'd think pitchers are trying to get their command of the strike zone, and hitters are trying to get swings in.
If you go to Camelback Ranch in Glendale, I understand YOU will walk a lot. It's more than a mile from the ballpark to the lots. As for the players, nah, they have golf carts and buses and good parking spots. And what Fork said.
Well, even though Fork may be right about that, the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%. Basically, you can be a pretty decent player with those, but in order to do so, you need to hit around .325-.340 until your offensive production is worth a damn. Basically, he needs to be a very good hitter, have a great LD% couple with a good BABiP for him to be worth a darn. He doesn't look to be a very good player because the odds are against him, but I still have some HOPE that he'll prove me wrong.
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%.
Yeah, taking his total minor league average for walks is some kind of proof that he will totally suck.
He'll probably not be that good. But maybe the added mass will help a lot. Either way, it's a hell
of a lot more complicated than walk and k rates.
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%.
Yeah, taking his total minor league average for walks is some kind of proof that he will totally suck.
He'll probably not be that good. But maybe the added mass will help a lot. Either way, it's a hell
of a lot more complicated than walk and k rates.
He has over 1000 ABs to look at. I'm not really sure how building muscle will really affect that. If a guy can't take walks in the minors, I'm going to go out on a very thin limb and say he probably won't take walks in the majors. I mean, I might be wrong, but taking walks doesn't seem to be a product of strength or swing style. It's a guy's discipline and eye. I doubt that's going to change. Like I said, he may be a decent player, but he can't hit .275 and be decent because he'll have like a .285 OBP and need to have a slugging of .515 just to have an .800 OPS, which would put him just a little bit above average. I'd like to see him materialize into a decent player, but it probably won't happen. His walk rates (more so than his K rates) show that he has quite the challenge in front of him to be a good player.
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%.
Yeah, taking his total minor league average for walks is some kind of proof that he will totally suck.
He'll probably not be that good. But maybe the added mass will help a lot. Either way, it's a hell
of a lot more complicated than walk and k rates.
He has over 1000 ABs to look at. I'm not really sure how building muscle will really affect that. If a guy can't take walks in the minors, I'm going to go out on a very thin limb and say he probably won't take walks in the majors. I mean, I might be wrong, but taking walks doesn't seem to be a product of strength or swing style. It's a guy's discipline and eye. I doubt that's going to change. Like I said, he may be a decent player, but he can't hit .275 and be decent because he'll have like a .285 OBP and need to have a slugging of .515 just to have an .800 OPS, which would put him just a little bit above average. I'd like to see him materialize into a decent player, but it probably won't happen. His walk rates (more so than his K rates) show that he has quite the challenge in front of him to be a good player.
I think the important thing to take away from all of this is that you don't have any fucking idea how good or bad Colvin's gonna be.
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%.
Yeah, taking his total minor league average for walks is some kind of proof that he will totally suck.
He'll probably not be that good. But maybe the added mass will help a lot. Either way, it's a hell
of a lot more complicated than walk and k rates.
He has over 1000 ABs to look at. I'm not really sure how building muscle will really affect that. If a guy can't take walks in the minors, I'm going to go out on a very thin limb and say he probably won't take walks in the majors. I mean, I might be wrong, but taking walks doesn't seem to be a product of strength or swing style. It's a guy's discipline and eye. I doubt that's going to change. Like I said, he may be a decent player, but he can't hit .275 and be decent because he'll have like a .285 OBP and need to have a slugging of .515 just to have an .800 OPS, which would put him just a little bit above average. I'd like to see him materialize into a decent player, but it probably won't happen. His walk rates (more so than his K rates) show that he has quite the challenge in front of him to be a good player.
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian, and it's an improvement from the year before. He also cut down on strikeouts from 08 to 09 and the added bulk might make him more of a power threat and might lead to teams being more afraid to challenge him. I don't know if he'll be any fucking good or not, and Jim Hendry's obsession with toolsy outfielders with little plate discipline drives me as crazy as it does you, but you're being an overly simplistic moran.
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%.
Yeah, taking his total minor league average for walks is some kind of proof that he will totally suck.
He'll probably not be that good. But maybe the added mass will help a lot. Either way, it's a hell
of a lot more complicated than walk and k rates.
He has over 1000 ABs to look at. I'm not really sure how building muscle will really affect that. If a guy can't take walks in the minors, I'm going to go out on a very thin limb and say he probably won't take walks in the majors. I mean, I might be wrong, but taking walks doesn't seem to be a product of strength or swing style. It's a guy's discipline and eye. I doubt that's going to change. Like I said, he may be a decent player, but he can't hit .275 and be decent because he'll have like a .285 OBP and need to have a slugging of .515 just to have an .800 OPS, which would put him just a little bit above average. I'd like to see him materialize into a decent player, but it probably won't happen. His walk rates (more so than his K rates) show that he has quite the challenge in front of him to be a good player.
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian, and it's an improvement from the year before. He also cut down on strikeouts from 08 to 09 and the added bulk might make him more of a power threat and might lead to teams being more afraid to challenge him. I don't know if he'll be any fucking good or not, and Jim Hendry's obsession with toolsy outfielders with little plate discipline drives me as crazy as it does you, but you're being an overly simplistic moran.
I like being an overly simplistic moran as much as the next guy and I say that because he had four hits in a game I saw last weekend that he's a fucking stud, Marlon Byrd should get benched and this kid should be allowed to become the best Cub centerfielder of my lifetime starting next week.
Boom.
The idea of walk rates as the sole explainer of how good/bad a ballplayer was led many to believe that Matt Murton was not a piece of shit. I understand that ignoring it completely led many others to believe the same about Corey Patterson. But here's one you can put in your cock shaped pipe and puff on. Corey > Murton.
Ask anybody in Japan. They'll tell you that Murton only has one useful baseball skill - not swinging at pitches. That's the same one everybody on this messageboard shares. The whole running and catching and throwing and hitting home runs thing? That wasn't Matt's game.
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Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%.
Yeah, taking his total minor league average for walks is some kind of proof that he will totally suck.
He'll probably not be that good. But maybe the added mass will help a lot. Either way, it's a hell
of a lot more complicated than walk and k rates.
He has over 1000 ABs to look at. I'm not really sure how building muscle will really affect that. If a guy can't take walks in the minors, I'm going to go out on a very thin limb and say he probably won't take walks in the majors. I mean, I might be wrong, but taking walks doesn't seem to be a product of strength or swing style. It's a guy's discipline and eye. I doubt that's going to change. Like I said, he may be a decent player, but he can't hit .275 and be decent because he'll have like a .285 OBP and need to have a slugging of .515 just to have an .800 OPS, which would put him just a little bit above average. I'd like to see him materialize into a decent player, but it probably won't happen. His walk rates (more so than his K rates) show that he has quite the challenge in front of him to be a good player.
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian, and it's an improvement from the year before. He also cut down on strikeouts from 08 to 09 and the added bulk might make him more of a power threat and might lead to teams being more afraid to challenge him. I don't know if he'll be any fucking good or not, and Jim Hendry's obsession with toolsy outfielders with little plate discipline drives me as crazy as it does you, but you're being an overly simplistic moran.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on March 29, 2010, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%.
Yeah, taking his total minor league average for walks is some kind of proof that he will totally suck.
He'll probably not be that good. But maybe the added mass will help a lot. Either way, it's a hell
of a lot more complicated than walk and k rates.
He has over 1000 ABs to look at. I'm not really sure how building muscle will really affect that. If a guy can't take walks in the minors, I'm going to go out on a very thin limb and say he probably won't take walks in the majors. I mean, I might be wrong, but taking walks doesn't seem to be a product of strength or swing style. It's a guy's discipline and eye. I doubt that's going to change. Like I said, he may be a decent player, but he can't hit .275 and be decent because he'll have like a .285 OBP and need to have a slugging of .515 just to have an .800 OPS, which would put him just a little bit above average. I'd like to see him materialize into a decent player, but it probably won't happen. His walk rates (more so than his K rates) show that he has quite the challenge in front of him to be a good player.
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian, and it's an improvement from the year before. He also cut down on strikeouts from 08 to 09 and the added bulk might make him more of a power threat and might lead to teams being more afraid to challenge him. I don't know if he'll be any fucking good or not, and Jim Hendry's obsession with toolsy outfielders with little plate discipline drives me as crazy as it does you, but you're being an overly simplistic moran.
I like being an overly simplistic moran as much as the next guy and I say that because he had four hits in a game I saw last weekend that he's a fucking stud, Marlon Byrd should get benched and this kid should be allowed to become the best Cub centerfielder of my lifetime starting next week.
Boom.
Whoa whoa whoa, pal. You've got 99 more games to go before you can start making statements like that.
Quote from: PenFoe on March 29, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
I think the important thing to take away from all of this is that you don't have any fucking idea how good or bad Colvin's gonna be.
I think Yeti's still getting his statfag sea legs, which is leading to some clumsy analysis, but why is it impossible to project if Colvin is going to be good based on 1,700 minor league at bats?
The big knock on Colvin when he came out of college was that he didn't have any plate discipline. While he's gotten a little better as he's progressed, there's a still a long way to go. Given his background and performance, one can
reasonably guess that Colvin is going to struggle with the strike zone in the majors. Sure, it's still possible that Colvin could turn into Bobby Abreu, but it doesn't seem likely.
I take all of this back if you were just wanting to insult Yeti specifically, rather than defend Colvin.
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 29, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
the point is that Colvin has a BB% of somewhere close to 5% while his K% is somewhere near 15-18%.
Yeah, taking his total minor league average for walks is some kind of proof that he will totally suck.
He'll probably not be that good. But maybe the added mass will help a lot. Either way, it's a hell
of a lot more complicated than walk and k rates.
He has over 1000 ABs to look at. I'm not really sure how building muscle will really affect that. If a guy can't take walks in the minors, I'm going to go out on a very thin limb and say he probably won't take walks in the majors. I mean, I might be wrong, but taking walks doesn't seem to be a product of strength or swing style. It's a guy's discipline and eye. I doubt that's going to change. Like I said, he may be a decent player, but he can't hit .275 and be decent because he'll have like a .285 OBP and need to have a slugging of .515 just to have an .800 OPS, which would put him just a little bit above average. I'd like to see him materialize into a decent player, but it probably won't happen. His walk rates (more so than his K rates) show that he has quite the challenge in front of him to be a good player.
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian, and it's an improvement from the year before. He also cut down on strikeouts from 08 to 09 and the added bulk might make him more of a power threat and might lead to teams being more afraid to challenge him. I don't know if he'll be any fucking good or not, and Jim Hendry's obsession with toolsy outfielders with little plate discipline drives me as crazy as it does you, but you're being an overly simplistic moran.
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Mkay.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 29, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
I think the important thing to take away from all of this is that you don't have any fucking idea how good or bad Colvin's gonna be.
I think Yeti's still getting his statfag sea legs, which is leading to some clumsy analysis, but why is it impossible to project if Colvin is going to be good based on 1,700 minor league at bats?
The big knock on Colvin when he came out of college was that he didn't have any plate discipline. While he's gotten a little better as he's progressed, there's a still a long way to go. Given his background and performance, one can reasonably guess that Colvin is going to struggle with the strike zone in the majors. Sure, it's still possible that Colvin could turn into Bobby Abreu, but it doesn't seem likely.
I take all of this back if you were just wanting to insult Yeti specifically, rather than defend Colvin.
Yeah, I didn't say it was impossible to project Colvin's future, just that Yeti couldn't do it.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 29, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
I think the important thing to take away from all of this is that you don't have any fucking idea how good or bad Colvin's gonna be.
I think Yeti's still getting his statfag sea legs, which is leading to some clumsy analysis, but why is it impossible to project if Colvin is going to be good based on 1,700 minor league at bats?
The big knock on Colvin when he came out of college was that he didn't have any plate discipline. While he's gotten a little better as he's progressed, there's a still a long way to go. Given his background and performance, one can reasonably guess that Colvin is going to struggle with the strike zone in the majors. Sure, it's still possible that Colvin could turn into Bobby Abreu, but it doesn't seem likely.
I take all of this back if you were just wanting to insult Yeti specifically, rather than defend Colvin.
Well, Eli can say it better than I can. But yea, my point was basically this above. His walk rate, while only one part of his game, will be one of the biggest things that will hinder him.. However, the Cubs do have Rudy Jaramillo, BEST FREE AGENT SIGNING OF THE OFFSEASON, so this will be moot when he puts up a .310/.395/.479 line, and we'll all be douches.
Well, maybe just me.. And I don't think the "will be" applies in that case.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 29, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
I think the important thing to take away from all of this is that you don't have any fucking idea how good or bad Colvin's gonna be.
I think Yeti's still getting his statfag sea legs, which is leading to some clumsy analysis, but why is it impossible to project if Colvin is going to be good based on 1,700 minor league at bats?
The big knock on Colvin when he came out of college was that he didn't have any plate discipline. While he's gotten a little better as he's progressed, there's a still a long way to go. Given his background and performance, one can reasonably guess that Colvin is going to struggle with the strike zone in the majors. Sure, it's still possible that Colvin could turn into Bobby Abreu, but it doesn't seem likely.
I take all of this back if you were just wanting to insult Yeti specifically, rather than defend Colvin.
I certainly don't think Tyler Colvin's going to be a perennial all-star, but I think he could at least be a starting quality corner outfielder. I think it's fair, if Colvin has a .332 OBP in the minors, to assume he'll struggle with fairly pedestrian OBPs in the minors. I just took offense to Yeti's claim that he probably won't be "decent" because of his minor league numbers, even though he posted an .812 OPS last year With his shitty OBP, an OPS that Yeti would claim to be above average. Are you familiar with the old robot saying "DOES NOT COMPUTE" ?
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian
Anyone want to guess Korey's AA OBP? .338
Colvin's never had an OBP that high at any level.
Colvin (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=colvin001tyl) vs. Korey (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=patter001don)
I'm not saying Colvin (Kolvin?) will be good or bad. I'm just saying you might want a better comparative.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 29, 2010, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian
Anyone want to guess Korey's AA OBP? .338
Colvin's never had an OBP that high at any level.
Colvin (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=colvin001tyl) vs. Korey (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=patter001don)
I'm not saying Colvin (Kolvin?) will be good or bad. I'm just saying you might want a better comparative.
I was thinking more of his .290 OBP in the majors, but fair enough. At least Colvin's OBP has improved during his time in the minors. Patterson's decreased every year that he was in the minors, from .358 to .338 to .308 (not counting his return trips to AAA in 2005, 2008, and 2009.
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 02:22:41 PM
I certainly don't think Tyler Colvin's going to be a perennial all-star, but I think he could at least be a starting quality corner outfielder.
Depends on his defense, I suppose. I don't know anything about it, to be honest.
As we've tediously discussed already, his OBP will probably never be great, so he's going to have to provide lots of slugging in order to be valuable. Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get consistent .285/.330/.490 lines from him. He'll be like a mini-Soriano! Yay?
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 02:22:41 PM
I certainly don't think Tyler Colvin's going to be a perennial all-star, but I think he could at least be a starting quality corner outfielder.
Depends on his defense, I suppose. I don't know anything about it, to be honest.
As we've tediously discussed already, his OBP will probably never be great, so he's going to have to provide lots of slugging in order to be valuable. Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get consistent .285/.330/.490 lines from him. He'll be like a mini-Soriano! Yay?
Nice choice, Jim.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 02:22:41 PM
I certainly don't think Tyler Colvin's going to be a perennial all-star, but I think he could at least be a starting quality corner outfielder.
Depends on his defense, I suppose. I don't know anything about it, to be honest.
As we've tediously discussed already, his OBP will probably never be great, so he's going to have to provide lots of slugging in order to be valuable. Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get consistent .285/.330/.490 lines from him. He'll be like a mini-Soriano! Yay?
That's not a bad line for a corner outfielder if he's making the league minimum. It's not that great for 16 million a year. I just think Colvin might turn out to be a cheap and passable option to play the corner outfield for a few years.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2010, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 02:22:41 PM
I certainly don't think Tyler Colvin's going to be a perennial all-star, but I think he could at least be a starting quality corner outfielder.
Depends on his defense, I suppose. I don't know anything about it, to be honest.
As we've tediously discussed already, his OBP will probably never be great, so he's going to have to provide lots of slugging in order to be valuable. Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get consistent .285/.330/.490 lines from him. He'll be like a mini-Soriano! Yay?
I'm thinking it's too early to know what kind of player he's going to be but I'm looking forward to finding out.
On a completely unrelated note, did anybody see Phil Rogers' column on why the Cubs should move their spring training camp to Florida? I think Phil is off his meds again.
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 29, 2010, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian
Anyone want to guess Korey's AA OBP? .338
Colvin's never had an OBP that high at any level.
Colvin (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=colvin001tyl) vs. Korey (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=patter001don)
I'm not saying Colvin (Kolvin?) will be good or bad. I'm just saying you might want a better comparative.
I was thinking more of his .290 OBP in the majors, but fair enough. At least Colvin's OBP has improved during his time in the minors. Patterson's decreased every year that he was in the minors, from .358 to .338 to .308 (not counting his return trips to AAA in 2005, 2008, and 2009.
If Colvin's overall minor league stats are an indicator of his future, we're all boned.
If he "figured things out" last year and his AA line is the indicator (.859 OPS and 14 HRs in half a season), it's bonertime.
Quote from: R-V on March 29, 2010, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 29, 2010, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
Thanks for explaining that you need to like, walk and stuff, to have a good OBP. The guy had a .332 OBP last year. That's below average, but it's not abysmal or Pattersonian
Anyone want to guess Korey's AA OBP? .338
Colvin's never had an OBP that high at any level.
Colvin (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=colvin001tyl) vs. Korey (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=patter001don)
I'm not saying Colvin (Kolvin?) will be good or bad. I'm just saying you might want a better comparative.
I was thinking more of his .290 OBP in the majors, but fair enough. At least Colvin's OBP has improved during his time in the minors. Patterson's decreased every year that he was in the minors, from .358 to .338 to .308 (not counting his return trips to AAA in 2005, 2008, and 2009.
If Colvin's overall minor league stats are an indicator of his future, we're all boned.
If he "figured things out" last year and his AA line is the indicator (.859 OPS and 14 HRs in half a season), it's bonertime.
Yeah, but if his 1.178 OPS from Spring Training is any indication, he'll be the greatest player in history. Tell me why that's unreasonable.
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2010, 03:07:58 PM
Yeah, but if his 1.178 OPS from Spring Training is any indication, he'll be the greatest player in history. Tell me why that's unreasonable.
Why Spring Training Results Mean Nothing, Part 12,783 (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/3/22/1385694/why-spring-training-results-mean)
I hope Colvin turns out to be good, and that the steroid regimen he was on this offseason turns him into Barry Bonds. I just think he'd have been better served to go to Des Moines for a little bit at the beginning of the season to see if his torrid spring was for realsies. He's going to end up there anyway, so I hope he banks his meal money while he's on the big league club.
This is getting ghey. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0330-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100329,0,5605857.story)
QuoteThe Cubs' final roster spot will be filled by Tuesday, and Kevin Millar remains the favorite because Chad Tracy, Sam Fuld and Micah Hoffpauir can be sent down to Triple-A Iowa. If Millar doesn't make the team, he'll probably have to contemplate retirement because he had no other offers this winter.
Wha? He's such valuable commodity that they can't afford to cut him because he might.... retire. Ok, Paul.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 29, 2010, 09:37:18 PM
This is getting ghey. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0330-bits-cubs-chicago-spring-trai20100329,0,5605857.story)
QuoteThe Cubs' final roster spot will be filled by Tuesday, and Kevin Millar remains the favorite because Chad Tracy, Sam Fuld and Micah Hoffpauir can be sent down to Triple-A Iowa. If Millar doesn't make the team, he'll probably have to contemplate retirement because he had no other offers this winter.
Wha? He's such valuable commodity that they can't afford to cut him because he might.... retire. Ok, Paul.
What we see is that Millar is going to be kept on the team because he tells a good dick joke.
I'd rather have Tracy because, to my knowledge, can at least spell Aramis at third occasionally. I'm pretty sure all four of these guys suck. Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player. Micah Hoffpauir should retire to become the greatest softball player of all time. He can't hit major league fastballs let alone major league pitching.
So that's what it's come down to - a good dick joke. Someone get Chad Tracy's email and send him your best jokes. Someone not named Fork.
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Yours is a welcome dose of rationality. I really don't like Sam Fuld because of people that think he should honestly start everyday over Soriano. That's not a really good reason to despise a player. Yeah, he can run and he can cover some ground in the field. He can lay down a bunt. Yay?
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Yours is a welcome dose of rationality. I really don't like Sam Fuld because of people that think he should honestly start everyday over Soriano. That's not a really good reason to despise a player. Yeah, he can run and he can cover some ground in the field. He can lay down a bunt. Yay?
Dude's an RBI MACHINE.
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Yours is a welcome dose of rationality. I really don't like Sam Fuld because of people that think he should honestly start everyday over Soriano. That's not a really good reason to despise a player. Yeah, he can run and he can cover some ground in the field. He can lay down a bunt. Yay?
I don't hate SAM FULD, but I hate people who like SAM FULD a lot. Pre's analysis is spot on.
Quote from: Bort on March 30, 2010, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Yours is a welcome dose of rationality. I really don't like Sam Fuld because of people that think he should honestly start everyday over Soriano. That's not a really good reason to despise a player. Yeah, he can run and he can cover some ground in the field. He can lay down a bunt. Yay?
I don't hate SAM FULD, but I hate people who like SAM FULD a lot. Pre's analysis is spot on.
That sums it up. Who was it who pointed out that Sam Fuld has like 500 fansites?
Quote from: MAD on March 30, 2010, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 30, 2010, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Yours is a welcome dose of rationality. I really don't like Sam Fuld because of people that think he should honestly start everyday over Soriano. That's not a really good reason to despise a player. Yeah, he can run and he can cover some ground in the field. He can lay down a bunt. Yay?
I don't hate SAM FULD, but I hate people who like SAM FULD a lot. Pre's analysis is spot on.
That sums it up. Who was it who pointed out that Sam Fuld has like 500 fansites?
Somebody.
Quote from: MAD on March 30, 2010, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 30, 2010, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Yours is a welcome dose of rationality. I really don't like Sam Fuld because of people that think he should honestly start everyday over Soriano. That's not a really good reason to despise a player. Yeah, he can run and he can cover some ground in the field. He can lay down a bunt. Yay?
I don't hate SAM FULD, but I hate people who like SAM FULD a lot. Pre's analysis is spot on.
That sums it up. Who was it who pointed out that Sam Fuld has like 500 fansites?
I enjoy comparing his Wiki site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Fuld) to others on the team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrek_Lee)
Fuld gets a complete sploogefest and he's had, what, less than 200 ML ABs?
Quote from: Yeti on March 30, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 30, 2010, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 30, 2010, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Yours is a welcome dose of rationality. I really don't like Sam Fuld because of people that think he should honestly start everyday over Soriano. That's not a really good reason to despise a player. Yeah, he can run and he can cover some ground in the field. He can lay down a bunt. Yay?
I don't hate SAM FULD, but I hate people who like SAM FULD a lot. Pre's analysis is spot on.
That sums it up. Who was it who pointed out that Sam Fuld has like 500 fansites?
I enjoy comparing his Wiki site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Fuld) to others on the team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrek_Lee)
Fuld gets a complete sploogefest and he's had, what, less than 200 ML ABs?
You're surprised? (http://tinyurl.com/ya3kee9)
Sheeple, every last one of you. Wool. Over. Eyes.
You'd think Oleg would have a happening Wiki, if that were the case.
Quote from: Yeti on March 30, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 30, 2010, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 30, 2010, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 29, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Sam Fuld brings the GRIT which is completely worthless. I don't understand how he's considered a major league baseball player.
I hate me the hell out of the SAM FULD crowd, but I do think players like him have
a place in an organization. He's a basically free guy you can toss in the minors and
have available to bring up as a 4th/5th outfielder if you have some injuries and he
isn't a complete and total zero. You don't have to trade for a shitty guy and absorb
salary (Ryan Freel springs to mind) to not be good, you have that guy ready in house.
Sure, it would be good to real talent down there to bring up, but even just having
mediocre talent at the AA(A) level is a good start. That's one of the depressing things
about the Cubs farm system. Not only have they been so bad at acquiring and
developing elite talent, they have also been terrible at just developing some mediocre
players to keep around for depth.
Yours is a welcome dose of rationality. I really don't like Sam Fuld because of people that think he should honestly start everyday over Soriano. That's not a really good reason to despise a player. Yeah, he can run and he can cover some ground in the field. He can lay down a bunt. Yay?
I don't hate SAM FULD, but I hate people who like SAM FULD a lot. Pre's analysis is spot on.
That sums it up. Who was it who pointed out that Sam Fuld has like 500 fansites?
I enjoy comparing his Wiki site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Fuld) to others on the team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrek_Lee)
Fuld gets a complete sploogefest and he's had, what, less than 200 ML ABs?
Isn't that SAM FULD entry exactly what this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-notable) is for?
Quote from: Fork on March 30, 2010, 10:11:17 AM
You'd think Oleg would have a happening Wiki, if that were the case.
Oleg has the shortest Wiki entry.
Millar is confident he'll be a "Cubbie." This sucks. However, it appears he is the Cubs' Jackie Robinson. Move over, Gene Baker!
Quote
But Tracy is hitting only .243, Fuld is at .147 and Hoffpauir is at .239, so it's not like one player has stood out among the others. Millar already has integrated himself in the clubhouse, and as Aramis Ramirez pointed out, numbers don't mean a thing in spring.
So before Millar, douchebags were segregated from the rest of the Cubs. Must have been why Milton Bradley was so lonely.
Millar is batting .242.
I will give $100 of my own money to the first NL pitcher who earholes Millar.
Quote from: Fork on March 30, 2010, 01:31:08 PM
I will give $100 of my own money to the first NL pitcher who earholes Millar.
Who is the Cubs' BP pitcher? Lester Strode? $100 means a little bit more to him than someone like Billy Wagner.
Rejoice. Via Gordo's Twitter.
QuoteTracy gets last roster spot over Millar.
Quote from: Brownie on March 30, 2010, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: Fork on March 30, 2010, 01:31:08 PM
I will give $100 of my own money to the first NL pitcher who earholes Millar.
Who is the Cubs' BP pitcher? Lester Strode? $100 means a little bit more to him than someone like Billy Wagner.
If Millar made the team, I wouldn't care if you got out there and did it.
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
Rejoice. Via Gordo's Twitter.
QuoteTracy gets last roster spot over Millar.
YES!
Also, fuck this team for making me celebrate Chad Tracy's presence on it.
Quote from: R-V on March 30, 2010, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
Rejoice. Via Gordo's Twitter.
QuoteTracy gets last roster spot over Millar.
YES!
Also, fuck this team for making me celebrate Chad Tracy's presence on it.
Sullivan's report (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/millar-i-feel-confident-im-going-to-be-a-cubbie.html) as well.
Just when you thought it was safe to go outside...
Quote from: Kevin Millar
"If this is the end, you shake hands (and go)," he said earlier Tuesday. "The one thing in my career, I've never been released, and I wouldn't do anything different. I've had as much fun as I could, and have, and played as hard as I could and have, with limited ability. But do I feel it's the end? I'd say no. I feel confident that I'm going to be a Cubbie."
Quote from: R-V on March 30, 2010, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
Rejoice. Via Gordo's Twitter.
QuoteTracy gets last roster spot over Millar.
YES!
Also, fuck this team for making me celebrate Chad Tracy's presence on it.
My sentiments exactly.
Quote from: R-V on March 30, 2010, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
Rejoice. Via Gordo's Twitter.
QuoteTracy gets last roster spot over Millar.
YES!
Also, fuck this team for making me celebrate Chad Tracy's presence on it.
This is as exciting as the Cubs 82nd win was last year.
Quote from: Kevin Millar
"If this is the end, you shake hands (and go)," he said earlier Tuesday. "The one thing in my career, I've never been released, and I wouldn't do anything different. I've had as much fun as I could, and have, and played as hard as I could and have, with limited ability. But do I feel it's the end? I'd say no. I feel confident that I'm going to be a Cubbie."
Why am I not surprised that this guy would use the term "Cubbie"?
So how about the Trib does an interview with Chad Tracy? Millar is fucking gone. Let's talk about someone who matters.
Quote from: Slaky on March 30, 2010, 03:20:58 PM
So how about the Trib does an interview with Chad Tracy? Millar is fucking gone. Let's talk about someone who matters.
Slak is right.
Millar is gone. It's time to hate Tracy.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 30, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 30, 2010, 03:20:58 PM
So how about the Trib does an interview with Chad Tracy? Millar is fucking gone. Let's talk about someone who matters.
Slak is right.
Millar is gone. It's time to hate Tracy.
I heard he was only pretending to like Millar's jokes.
I have real hope that Chad Tracy can be the next Ron Coomer.
Quote from: SKO on March 30, 2010, 04:40:39 PM
I have real hope that Chad Tracy can be the next Ron Coomer.
So he can give Hoffpauir some competition for best softball player ever?
Quote from: SKO on March 30, 2010, 04:40:39 PM
I have real hope that Chad Tracy can be the next Ron Coomer.
I just hope he gets about 100 PAs. Just enough to give Ram and Lee 10 games rest and
some pinch hitting.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2010, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 30, 2010, 04:40:39 PM
I have real hope that Chad Tracy can be the next Ron Coomer.
So he can give Hoffpauir some competition for best softball player ever?
You're forgetting someone. A very important someone. (http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/kc/images/fan_forum/wallpaper/Stairs1024x768.jpg)
I remember when the Cubs put Stairs on their Opening Day Roster in 2001. "He should have retired last year," I muttered to myself. Little did I know his career would outlast Hee Seop Choi's.
My love for Matt Stairs is a little late in coming, but yes, if Chad Tracy=Matt Stairs who plays third base as well, then bonertime all around.
Quote from: Brownie on March 30, 2010, 05:59:25 PM
I remember when the Cubs put Stairs on their Opening Day Roster in 2001. "He should have retired last year," I muttered to myself. Little did I know his career would outlast Hee Seop Choi's.
My love for Matt Stairs is a little late in coming, but yes, if Chad Tracy=Matt Stairs who plays third base as well, then bonertime all around.
I wasn't trying to imply that Chad Tracy would be the next Matt Stairs. That, my friend, is heresy, pure and simple, and I'll not stand for it. I said Ron Coomer. Perhaps if we're lucky he may be a more versatile Eric Karros, or even a more sure-handed Brant Brown, but he will NEVER be Matt Stairs.
I'd settle for him being Gary Gaeitti.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 30, 2010, 07:32:41 PM
I'd settle for him being Gary Gaeitti.
1998 or 1999 Gary Gaetti? Cuz I'm not up for a return of the latter. Or Steve Buchele either.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2010, 08:08:10 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 30, 2010, 07:32:41 PM
I'd settle for him being Gary Gaeitti.
1998 or 1999 Gary Gaetti? Cuz I'm not up for a return of the latter. Or Steve Buchele either.
I'd rather not have Willie Greene or Shane Andrews. But this could go on forever. Let's just get it all out of the way real quick so Huey doesn't jump in
Good: Bill Madlock, Ron Cey, 98 Gaetti, 97 Orie, Bill Mueller, 2002 Bellhorn, Keith Moreland, Ryne Sandberg
Not Good: 2003 Bellhorn, Lenny Harris, Jose Hernandez, Ramon Martinez, Chris Stynes, Ron Coomer, Miguel Cairo, Willie Greene, Shane Andrews, Jose Nieves, Jeff Huson, 99 Gaetti, Tyler Houston, Jeff Blauser, Manny Alexander, Cole Liniak, 98 Orie, Dave Hansen, Leo Gomez, Dave Magadan, Todd Zeile, Steve Buechele, Howard Johnson, Jose Vizcaino, Luis Salazar, Gary Scott, Doug Strange, Chico Walker, Domingo Ramos, Curtis Wilkerson, Vance Law, Manny Trillo, Wade Rowdon, Davey Lopes, Chris Speier, Richie Hebner, Pat Tabler, Ken Reitz, Ty Waller, Hector Cruz, Len Randle, Steve Dillard, Steve Ontiveros, Mick Kelleher, Rodney Scott, Davey Johnson, Dave Rosello, Rob Sperring, Carmen Fanzone, or Matt Alexander.
I thought Ron Kittle was the best softball player ever?
Quote from: SKO on March 30, 2010, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2010, 08:08:10 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 30, 2010, 07:32:41 PM
I'd settle for him being Gary Gaeitti.
1998 or 1999 Gary Gaetti? Cuz I'm not up for a return of the latter. Or Steve Buchele either.
I'd rather not have Willie Greene or Shane Andrews. But this could go on forever. Let's just get it all out of the way real quick so Huey doesn't jump in
Good: Bill Madlock, Ron Cey, 98 Gaetti, 97 Orie, Bill Mueller, 2002 Bellhorn, Keith Moreland, Ryne Sandberg
Not Good: 2003 Bellhorn, Lenny Harris, Jose Hernandez, Ramon Martinez, Chris Stynes, Ron Coomer, Miguel Cairo, Willie Greene, Shane Andrews, Jose Nieves, Jeff Huson, 99 Gaetti, Tyler Houston, Jeff Blauser, Manny Alexander, Cole Liniak, 98 Orie, Dave Hansen, Leo Gomez, Dave Magadan, Todd Zeile, Steve Buechele, Howard Johnson, Jose Vizcaino, Luis Salazar, Gary Scott, Doug Strange, Chico Walker, Domingo Ramos, Curtis Wilkerson, Vance Law, Manny Trillo, Wade Rowdon, Davey Lopes, Chris Speier, Richie Hebner, Pat Tabler, Ken Reitz, Ty Waller, Hector Cruz, Len Randle, Steve Dillard, Steve Ontiveros, Mick Kelleher, Rodney Scott, Davey Johnson, Dave Rosello, Rob Sperring, Carmen Fanzone, or Matt Alexander.
Intrepid Readers: Ron Dunn and Billy GrabarkewitzAhem.
I want Chad Tracy to be like Aramis Ramirez, just cool with playing only occasionally, and not into cockfighting, and cool with a salary of a journeyman.
Quote from: Brownie on March 31, 2010, 08:36:40 AM
I want Chad Tracy to be like Aramis Ramirez, just cool with playing only occasionally, and not into cockfighting, and cool with a salary of a journeyman.
THI
Quote from: Andy on March 30, 2010, 09:53:29 PM
I thought Ron Kittle was the best softball player ever?
Probably the best 16" softballer who played MLB was Kevin Hickey who, legend has it, was scouted in the Chicago parks and of course Bill Veeck was crazy enough to sign him. Had a decent career, too. I mean, for softball player.
Quote from: MAD on March 31, 2010, 09:56:44 AM
Quote from: Andy on March 30, 2010, 09:53:29 PM
I thought Ron Kittle was the best softball player ever?
Probably the best 16" softballer who played MLB was Kevin Hickey who, legend has it, was scouted in the Chicago parks and of course Bill Veeck was crazy enough to sign him. Had a decent career, too. I mean, for softball player.
But did he have Kittle's retard strength?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/03/blalock-not-interested-in-minors.html ... anyone else want Hank Blalock rather than Chad Tracy? I think I would.
Quote from: CT III on March 31, 2010, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 31, 2010, 09:56:44 AM
Quote from: Andy on March 30, 2010, 09:53:29 PM
I thought Ron Kittle was the best softball player ever?
Probably the best 16" softballer who played MLB was Kevin Hickey who, legend has it, was scouted in the Chicago parks and of course Bill Veeck was crazy enough to sign him. Had a decent career, too. I mean, for softball player.
But did he have Kittle's retard strength racist vocabulary?
Pre-White Flight Gary Wirt'd
Quote from: SKO on March 31, 2010, 10:36:28 AM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/03/blalock-not-interested-in-minors.html...anyone else want Hank Blalock rather than Chad Tracy? I think I would.
This guy.
I'm willing to bet I was the only watching Chicago Tribune Live this afternoon (maybe Dolan was) so I'll explain. They had Chuck Garfein interview the recently departed Kevin Millar. Essentially, Garfein fawned over him like a pre-teen girl would fawn over someone that wasn't a pudwhack. Then they had a discussion involving KC Johnson (who I like), Teddy Greensti and David Schuster (who I hate with the passion of three billion Theriots) where the basic agreement was that Millar was the obvious choice over Fuld, Tracy and Kittle II because of his quotability and of course because he helped break a curse in Boston. Yes, those are the reasons you keep a baseball player.
These people are paid to write and talk about sports.
I feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PM
I'm willing to bet I was the only watching Chicago Tribune Live this afternoon (maybe Dolan was) so I'll explain. They had Chuck Garfein interview the recently departed Kevin Millar. Essentially, Garfein fawned over him like a pre-teen girl would fawn over someone that wasn't a pudwhack. Then they had a discussion involving KC Johnson (who I like), Teddy Greensti and David Schuster (who I hate with the passion of three billion Theriots) where the basic agreement was that Millar was the obvious choice over Fuld, Tracy and Kittle II because of his quotability and of course because he helped break a curse in Boston. Yes, those are the reasons you keep a baseball player.
These people are paid to write and talk about sports.
I feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
I think Kevin Millar might have been a brilliant ploy by Jim Hendry and Lou Piniella to make sure the media busied themselves writing puff pieces and seeking a quote from that assbag rather than grilling them over things like Bradley, the bullpen, the possibility of a fire sale if the team fails, etc.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Exactly. My dad's the same way. It's bred into 'em. They're God-fearing, hard-working, 'Mericans and damnit they like they're ballplayers scrappy, their beer cold, and their lawns free of God damned kids.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PM
These people are paid to write and talk about sports.
I really wonder what the local sports writers/tv douches make, because I really don't
think it's very much. I envision the jobs as inconvenient hours with mediocre pay and
full of dealing with awful people and even more awful network suits. There's a lot of
jobs that sound idyllic, but in actuality I would never trade my current soulless job for
(I'm not BCing here, my current job is a good situation, but it's not watching and
discussing sports.)
I just finished reading (well, listening to anyways) a book about the Brooklyn Dodgers
for no apparent reason because I don't like the Dodgers and I hate New Yorkers
talking about themselves in their too-ignorant-to-be-solipsistic inanity, but I picked it
up over the winter when I'm weak for anything baseball related. Anyways, the real
interesting thing to me was all these fans being interviewed just complained about
how once blacks started going to the games the fans couldn't appreciate the
Dodger's Symphony they had playing between innings or how much they loved
Hank Greenberg because he was Jewish. And that's when I realized that the game
has always had the same idiot fans and that there never was a golden era of baseball,
unless it was in the 1800s and then who gives a fuck because no one knows anything
about it.
And, well, I'll say I because I'd hate to start presuming for everyone with a we, but I
think I've fallen too far into the counter culture rage against the idiots all I am is a rat
in a cubicle thing and I'm letting my hatred of people who don't actually enjoy
_baseball_ ruin my ability to enjoy it myself.
Fuck that all, this year I'm enjoying baseball. I'm leaving regressing to the mean, and
the fact that it's almost always a bad idea to bunt or steal, and the idea that the idea
of clutch hitting is a myth at home and I'm going to cheer on my favorites and clap for
Silva if he manages to get through an inning without shitting himself and enjoy the games
they win and enjoy exciting plays, and maybe even make an occasional excuse when
they lose. I'm going to believe in hot streaks (but never players being due for a hit,
because that one is just dumb) and when it's close and late I hope to fuck that Ramirez
is at the plate. I'm going to go ahead and believe they can win the Central.
I'm still not singing the guest conducted 7th inning stretch.
Quote from: Pre on April 01, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PM
These people are paid to write and talk about sports.
I really wonder what the local sports writers/tv douches make, because I really don't
think it's very much. I envision the jobs as inconvenient hours with mediocre pay and
full of dealing with awful people and even more awful network suits. There's a lot of
jobs that sound idyllic, but in actuality I would never trade my current soulless job for
(I'm not BCing here, my current job is a good situation, but it's not watching and
discussing sports.)
I just finished reading (well, listening to anyways) a book about the Brooklyn Dodgers
for no apparent reason because I don't like the Dodgers and I hate New Yorkers
talking about themselves in their too-ignorant-to-be-solipsistic inanity, but I picked it
up over the winter when I'm weak for anything baseball related. Anyways, the real
interesting thing to me was all these fans being interviewed just complained about
how once blacks started going to the games the fans couldn't appreciate the
Dodger's Symphony they had playing between innings or how much they loved
Hank Greenberg because he was Jewish. And that's when I realized that the game
has always had the same idiot fans and that there never was a golden era of baseball,
unless it was in the 1800s and then who gives a fuck because no one knows anything
about it.
And, well, I'll say I because I'd hate to start presuming for everyone with a we, but I
think I've fallen too far into the counter culture rage against the idiots all I am is a rat
in a cubicle thing and I'm letting my hatred of people who don't actually enjoy
_baseball_ ruin my ability to enjoy it myself.
Fuck that all, this year I'm enjoying baseball. I'm leaving regressing to the mean, and
the fact that it's almost always a bad idea to bunt or steal, and the idea that the idea
of clutch hitting is a myth at home and I'm going to cheer on my favorites and clap for
Silva if he manages to get through an inning without shitting himself and enjoy the games
they win and enjoy exciting plays, and maybe even make an occasional excuse when
they lose. I'm going to believe in hot streaks (but never players being due for a hit,
because that one is just dumb) and when it's close and late I hope to fuck that Ramirez
is at the plate. I'm going to go ahead and believe they can win the Central.
I'm still not singing the guest conducted 7th inning stretch.
Don't sell the farm, Pre.
MSNBC fired David Shuster?
Edit - Whoa. I guess I don't listen to the Score very often.
Quote from: SKO on March 31, 2010, 10:32:54 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Exactly. My dad's the same way. It's bred into 'em. They're God-fearing, hard-working, 'Mericans and damnit they like they're ballplayers scrappy, their beer cold, and their lawns free of God damned kids.
THI
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Awesome.
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 01, 2010, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Awesome.
[Tdubbs]We get it, you want to have RV's babies.[/TDubbs]
Quote from: Bort on April 01, 2010, 11:30:23 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 01, 2010, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Awesome.
[Tdubbs]We get it, you want to have RV's babies.[/TDubbs]
You are the lowest form of internet partial birth abortion.
Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:39:49 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 01, 2010, 11:30:23 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 01, 2010, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Awesome.
[Tdubbs]We get it, you want to have RV's babies.[/TDubbs]
You are the lowest form of internet partial birth abortion.
Yeti?
Quote from: SKO on March 31, 2010, 10:32:54 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Exactly. My dad's the same way. It's bred into 'em. They're God-fearing, hard-working, 'Mericans and damnit they like they're ballplayers scrappy, their beer cold, and their lawns free of God damned kids.
As if on que, the Tribune posted a couple (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/cubs-packing-up-before-cactus-league-home-finale.html) stories (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/your-morning-phil-harden-vs-bradley.html) for our dads that Pre should stay away from if he wants to maintain his sunny disposition.
QuoteThere were no major injuries except Angel Guzman's shoulder tear, no real controversies except for a couple of pronouncements by ex-Cub Milton Bradley in the New York Times and on ESPN, and virtually no questions about the Billy Goat, the 102-year drought or Alfonso Soriano batting leadoff.
No major injuries if you don't count that season-ending one to your 8th inning setup guy.
QuoteOne name was conspicuously missing when Tom Gorzelanny talked about how much Greg Maddux and his veteran teammates have helped him this spring. He mentioned Ryan Dempster and the rehabilitating Ted Lilly specifically, but not the supposed staff leader, Carlos Zambrano.
QuoteBut baseball's best players have often been its most selfish -- something they rarely teach you in Little League.
Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 31, 2010, 10:32:54 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Exactly. My dad's the same way. It's bred into 'em. They're God-fearing, hard-working, 'Mericans and damnit they like they're ballplayers scrappy, their beer cold, and their lawns free of God damned kids.
As if on que, the Tribune posted a couple (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/cubs-packing-up-before-cactus-league-home-finale.html) stories (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/your-morning-phil-harden-vs-bradley.html) for our dads that Pre should stay away from if he wants to maintain his sunny disposition.
QuoteThere were no major injuries except Angel Guzman's shoulder tear, no real controversies except for a couple of pronouncements by ex-Cub Milton Bradley in the New York Times and on ESPN, and virtually no questions about the Billy Goat, the 102-year drought or Alfonso Soriano batting leadoff.
No major injuries if you don't count that season-ending one to your 8th inning setup guy.
QuoteOne name was conspicuously missing when Tom Gorzelanny talked about how much Greg Maddux and his veteran teammates have helped him this spring. He mentioned Ryan Dempster and the rehabilitating Ted Lilly specifically, but not the supposed staff leader, Carlos Zambrano.
QuoteBut baseball's best players have often been its most selfish -- something they rarely teach you in Little League.
All this other awfulness aside...who ever considered Carlos Zambrano the "staff leader"?
Quote from: PenFoe on April 01, 2010, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 31, 2010, 10:32:54 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Exactly. My dad's the same way. It's bred into 'em. They're God-fearing, hard-working, 'Mericans and damnit they like they're ballplayers scrappy, their beer cold, and their lawns free of God damned kids.
As if on que, the Tribune posted a couple (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/cubs-packing-up-before-cactus-league-home-finale.html) stories (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/your-morning-phil-harden-vs-bradley.html) for our dads that Pre should stay away from if he wants to maintain his sunny disposition.
QuoteThere were no major injuries except Angel Guzman's shoulder tear, no real controversies except for a couple of pronouncements by ex-Cub Milton Bradley in the New York Times and on ESPN, and virtually no questions about the Billy Goat, the 102-year drought or Alfonso Soriano batting leadoff.
No major injuries if you don't count that season-ending one to your 8th inning setup guy.
QuoteOne name was conspicuously missing when Tom Gorzelanny talked about how much Greg Maddux and his veteran teammates have helped him this spring. He mentioned Ryan Dempster and the rehabilitating Ted Lilly specifically, but not the supposed staff leader, Carlos Zambrano.
QuoteBut baseball's best players have often been its most selfish -- something they rarely teach you in Little League.
All this other awfulness aside...who ever considered Carlos Zambrano the "staff leader"?
If he's not out there giving sage advice, what good is he? I don't measure a pitcher by his statistics, rather by lives touched with genuine wisdom.
How many LTWGW is Zambrano going to have this year? Not enough, Pen. Not enough.
Quote from: Slaky on April 01, 2010, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 01, 2010, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 31, 2010, 10:32:54 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Exactly. My dad's the same way. It's bred into 'em. They're God-fearing, hard-working, 'Mericans and damnit they like they're ballplayers scrappy, their beer cold, and their lawns free of God damned kids.
As if on que, the Tribune posted a couple (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/cubs-packing-up-before-cactus-league-home-finale.html) stories (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/your-morning-phil-harden-vs-bradley.html) for our dads that Pre should stay away from if he wants to maintain his sunny disposition.
QuoteThere were no major injuries except Angel Guzman's shoulder tear, no real controversies except for a couple of pronouncements by ex-Cub Milton Bradley in the New York Times and on ESPN, and virtually no questions about the Billy Goat, the 102-year drought or Alfonso Soriano batting leadoff.
No major injuries if you don't count that season-ending one to your 8th inning setup guy.
QuoteOne name was conspicuously missing when Tom Gorzelanny talked about how much Greg Maddux and his veteran teammates have helped him this spring. He mentioned Ryan Dempster and the rehabilitating Ted Lilly specifically, but not the supposed staff leader, Carlos Zambrano.
QuoteBut baseball's best players have often been its most selfish -- something they rarely teach you in Little League.
All this other awfulness aside...who ever considered Carlos Zambrano the "staff leader"?
If he's not out their giving sage advice, what good is he? I don't measure a pitcher by his statistics, rather by lives touched with genuine wisdom.
He touched a lot of people.
Quote from: Phil Rogers on April 01, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
One name was conspicuously missing when Tom Gorzelanny talked about how much Greg Maddux and his veteran teammates have helped him this spring. He mentioned Ryan Dempster and the rehabilitating Ted Lilly specifically, but not the supposed staff leader, Carlos Zambrano.
We get it, Phildo. You hate Carlos Zambrano.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 01, 2010, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 31, 2010, 10:32:54 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 31, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMTeddy Greensti
That's a winner.
Quote from: Slaky on March 31, 2010, 09:13:51 PMI feel like I'm living in a world of retarded people.
Sometimes I get mad at my dad for saying things like "so and so isn't clutch" or "you gotta love guys like Theriot" but I guess it's not really his fault. Guys that are his and Pen's age have spent the majority of their lives with shitheels like Schuster and Garfien and Phil FuckingRogers as their only source of sports analysis. I'm just glad that the internet exists so I can avoid shelfturds like those guys and yet still keep up with the goings on of my teams.
Exactly. My dad's the same way. It's bred into 'em. They're God-fearing, hard-working, 'Mericans and damnit they like they're ballplayers scrappy, their beer cold, and their lawns free of God damned kids.
As if on que, the Tribune posted a couple (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/cubs-packing-up-before-cactus-league-home-finale.html) stories (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/your-morning-phil-harden-vs-bradley.html) for our dads that Pre should stay away from if he wants to maintain his sunny disposition.
QuoteThere were no major injuries except Angel Guzman's shoulder tear, no real controversies except for a couple of pronouncements by ex-Cub Milton Bradley in the New York Times and on ESPN, and virtually no questions about the Billy Goat, the 102-year drought or Alfonso Soriano batting leadoff.
No major injuries if you don't count that season-ending one to your 8th inning setup guy.
QuoteOne name was conspicuously missing when Tom Gorzelanny talked about how much Greg Maddux and his veteran teammates have helped him this spring. He mentioned Ryan Dempster and the rehabilitating Ted Lilly specifically, but not the supposed staff leader, Carlos Zambrano.
QuoteBut baseball's best players have often been its most selfish -- something they rarely teach you in Little League.
All this other awfulness aside...who ever considered Carlos Zambrano the "staff leader"?
Apparently not guys your age.
Quote from: Pre on April 01, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
And, well, I'll say I because I'd hate to start presuming for everyone with a we, but I
think I've fallen too far into the counter culture rage against the idiots all I am is a rat
in a cubicle thing and I'm letting my hatred of people who don't actually enjoy
_baseball_ ruin my ability to enjoy it myself.
Fuck that all, this year I'm enjoying baseball. I'm leaving regressing to the mean, and
the fact that it's almost always a bad idea to bunt or steal, and the idea that the idea
of clutch hitting is a myth at home and I'm going to cheer on my favorites and clap for
Silva if he manages to get through an inning without shitting himself and enjoy the games
they win and enjoy exciting plays, and maybe even make an occasional excuse when
they lose. I'm going to believe in hot streaks (but never players being due for a hit,
because that one is just dumb) and when it's close and late I hope to fuck that Ramirez
is at the plate. I'm going to go ahead and believe they can win the Central.
I'm still not singing the guest conducted 7th inning stretch.
I'd love to adopt this attitude, but then Ryan Theriot will get thrown out stealing third with two outs and Aramis at the plate and my head will explode.
Quote from: Shooter on April 01, 2010, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: Pre on April 01, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
And, well, I'll say I because I'd hate to start presuming for everyone with a we, but I
think I've fallen too far into the counter culture rage against the idiots all I am is a rat
in a cubicle thing and I'm letting my hatred of people who don't actually enjoy
_baseball_ ruin my ability to enjoy it myself.
Fuck that all, this year I'm enjoying baseball. I'm leaving regressing to the mean, and
the fact that it's almost always a bad idea to bunt or steal, and the idea that the idea
of clutch hitting is a myth at home and I'm going to cheer on my favorites and clap for
Silva if he manages to get through an inning without shitting himself and enjoy the games
they win and enjoy exciting plays, and maybe even make an occasional excuse when
they lose. I'm going to believe in hot streaks (but never players being due for a hit,
because that one is just dumb) and when it's close and late I hope to fuck that Ramirez
is at the plate. I'm going to go ahead and believe they can win the Central.
I'm still not singing the guest conducted 7th inning stretch.
I'd love to adopt this attitude, but then Ryan Theriot will get thrown out stealing third with two outs and Aramis at the plate and my head will explode.
But he's never been caught stealing second on a base on balls though.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 01, 2010, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: Shooter on April 01, 2010, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: Pre on April 01, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
And, well, I'll say I because I'd hate to start presuming for everyone with a we, but I
think I've fallen too far into the counter culture rage against the idiots all I am is a rat
in a cubicle thing and I'm letting my hatred of people who don't actually enjoy
_baseball_ ruin my ability to enjoy it myself.
Fuck that all, this year I'm enjoying baseball. I'm leaving regressing to the mean, and
the fact that it's almost always a bad idea to bunt or steal, and the idea that the idea
of clutch hitting is a myth at home and I'm going to cheer on my favorites and clap for
Silva if he manages to get through an inning without shitting himself and enjoy the games
they win and enjoy exciting plays, and maybe even make an occasional excuse when
they lose. I'm going to believe in hot streaks (but never players being due for a hit,
because that one is just dumb) and when it's close and late I hope to fuck that Ramirez
is at the plate. I'm going to go ahead and believe they can win the Central.
I'm still not singing the guest conducted 7th inning stretch.
I'd love to adopt this attitude, but then Ryan Theriot will get thrown out stealing third with two outs and Aramis at the plate and my head will explode.
But he's never been caught stealing second on a base on balls though.
Yet.
That Crane Kenney is such an April Fool's prankster.
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Quote from: Day Man on April 01, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
That Crane Kenney is such an April Fool's prankster.
QuoteOn Apr 1, 2010, at 1:48 PM, cubsjobs wrote:
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Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
No major injuries if you don't count that season-ending one to your 8th inning setup guy.
Update. (http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/04/41_guzman_aims_for_2011.html)
Quote
Angel Guzman was wearing a large sling designed to stabilize his right shoulder on Thursday. He began rehab a few days ago. The Cubs pitcher underwent arthroscopic surgery March 23 to repair a torn ligament.
"The pain is gone and I actually started therapy two days ago," Guzman said. "At least my shoulder is still attached to my body."
He expected to start throwing in six months.
"I'll be ready for next season," Guzman said.
BREAKOUT SEASON ALERT.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 01, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
No major injuries if you don't count that season-ending one to your 8th inning setup guy.
Update. (http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/04/41_guzman_aims_for_2011.html)
Quote
Angel Guzman was wearing a large sling designed to stabilize his right shoulder on Thursday. He began rehab a few days ago. The Cubs pitcher underwent arthroscopic surgery March 23 to repair a torn ligament.
"The pain is gone and I actually started therapy two days ago," Guzman said. "At least my shoulder is still attached to my body."
He expected to start throwing in six months.
"I'll be ready for next season," Guzman said.
BREAKOUT SEASON ALERT.
Not a major injury.
Quote from: Slaky on April 01, 2010, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 01, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 01, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
No major injuries if you don't count that season-ending one to your 8th inning setup guy.
Update. (http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/04/41_guzman_aims_for_2011.html)
Quote
Angel Guzman was wearing a large sling designed to stabilize his right shoulder on Thursday. He began rehab a few days ago. The Cubs pitcher underwent arthroscopic surgery March 23 to repair a torn ligament.
"The pain is gone and I actually started therapy two days ago," Guzman said. "At least my shoulder is still attached to my body."
He expected to start throwing in six months.
"I'll be ready for next season," Guzman said.
BREAKOUT SEASON ALERT.
Not a major injury.
Intrepid Reader: Josh Hancock
Guzman's "major injury" has nothing on mine.
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad, come in the bolgame and do the job.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses from the bottom of my heart!
Kid gave up nary a run this Spring. 12 innings, 10 hits, 10 Ks, one walk.
SPLOOGE.
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 01, 2010, 05:56:27 PM
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad, come in the bolgame and do the job.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses from the bottom of my heart!
Kid gave up nary a run this Spring. 12 innings, 10 hits, 10 Ks, one walk.
SPLOOGE.
That's an entirely deranged take on Alexander's Ragtime Band.
Quote from: Wheezer on April 01, 2010, 06:07:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 01, 2010, 05:56:27 PM
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad, come in the bolgame and do the job.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses from the bottom of my heart!
Kid gave up nary a run this Spring. 12 innings, 10 hits, 10 Ks, one walk.
SPLOOGE.
That's an entirely deranged take on Alexander's Ragtime Band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-D1_pewQfY
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 01, 2010, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on April 01, 2010, 06:07:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 01, 2010, 05:56:27 PM
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad, come in the bolgame and do the job.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses from the bottom of my heart!
Kid gave up nary a run this Spring. 12 innings, 10 hits, 10 Ks, one walk.
SPLOOGE.
That's an entirely deranged take on Alexander's Ragtime Band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-D1_pewQfY
Now I see.
Quote from: Wheezer on April 01, 2010, 06:12:54 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 01, 2010, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on April 01, 2010, 06:07:41 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 01, 2010, 05:56:27 PM
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad!
'Smailin Caridad, come in the bolgame and do the job.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses.
I wanna wish you three swings & misses from the bottom of my heart!
Kid gave up nary a run this Spring. 12 innings, 10 hits, 10 Ks, one walk.
SPLOOGE.
That's an entirely deranged take on Alexander's Ragtime Band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-D1_pewQfY
Now I see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtuVP8Mj4o
Quote from: PenFoe on April 01, 2010, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Day Man on April 01, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
That Crane Kenney is such an April Fool's prankster.
QuoteOn Apr 1, 2010, at 1:48 PM, cubsjobs wrote:
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On behalf of the Chicago Cubs, we appreciate the interest you have shown regarding our recent employment opportunity. However, after careful review and consideration, the candidates we feel best meet our needs for the 2010 Internship program have been selected.
We will retain your resume in our database. Please feel free, however, to visit our website at www.cubs.com to keep abreast of future job opportunities.
Again, thank you for your interest and best of luck in your employment search.
Sincerely,
Chicago Cubs Human Resources Dept
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Great photo.
I opened it in 3 different applications in confusion.