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Quote from: Slaky on April 05, 2010, 05:26:16 PM
And you thought we were done with defenestration!

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 05:33:10 PM
Was there a game today or something?

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 06:30:02 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

He should just cut his losses and switch to football.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 06:30:02 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

He should just cut his losses and switch to football.

Quote from: Day Man on April 05, 2010, 06:43:29 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 06:30:02 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

He should just cut his losses and switch to football.

Why's that?  Did he play football at one time?

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 07:08:44 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 05, 2010, 06:43:29 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 06:30:02 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

He should just cut his losses and switch to football.

Why's that?  Did he play football at one time?

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or seriousness.  Damn you, impersonal interwebs.

Quote from: Bort on April 05, 2010, 06:37:56 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 06:30:02 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

He should just cut his losses and switch to football.

Alternately, he could die after being locked in a burning barn.

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 08:36:55 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 05, 2010, 06:37:56 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 06:30:02 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

He should just cut his losses and switch to football.

Alternately, he could die after being locked in a burning barn.

Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good barn? We could use it to store our hate for the winter.

Quote from: Bort on April 05, 2010, 09:00:52 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 08:36:55 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 05, 2010, 06:37:56 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 06:30:02 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

He should just cut his losses and switch to football.

Alternately, he could die after being locked in a burning barn.

Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good barn? We could use it to store our hate for the winter.

I already have plenty of HATESILOS.

Quote from: CT III on April 05, 2010, 10:26:58 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 05, 2010, 09:00:52 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2010, 08:36:55 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 05, 2010, 06:37:56 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2010, 06:30:02 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Samardzija is a piece of shitzija.

Also, fuck Notre Dame. Because this sack of shit went to ND we have to put up with this.

He should just cut his losses and switch to football.

Alternately, he could die after being locked in a burning barn.

Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good barn? We could use it to store our hate for the winter.

I already have plenty of HATESILOS.

Besides, we can always get the Amish to raise us another one, English.

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

Quote from: Bort on April 06, 2010, 11:31:47 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

Either hop on the running boards of the HATEMOBILE, or get the hell out of the way.

Quote from: Bort on April 06, 2010, 11:31:47 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

Either hop on the running boards of the HATEMOBILE, or get the hell out of the way.

Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 11:37:08 AM

Quote from: Bort on April 06, 2010, 11:31:47 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

Either hop on the running boards of the HATEMOBILE, or get the hell out of the way.

I wanna sit in the rumble seat.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 11:44:59 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

He's sucked for two years. He's established a pattern of sucking.

He's a serial sucker.

Quote from: Bort on April 06, 2010, 11:46:06 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 11:44:59 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

He's sucked for two years. He's established a pattern of sucking.

He's a serial sucker.

I had a suit made of serialsucker once...oh god, even I can't bring myelf to put on the forktags...

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 12:28:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 06, 2010, 11:46:06 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 11:44:59 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

He's sucked for two years. He's established a pattern of sucking.

He's a serial sucker.

I had a suit made of serialsucker once...oh god, even I can't bring myelf to put on the forktags...

Forget it. He's like the King Midas of Suck.

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 12:28:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 06, 2010, 11:46:06 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 11:44:59 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2010, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 06, 2010, 08:44:27 AM

And how many fucking meatballs will be at Wrigley Field in their green Samardzija shirts?

I fucking hate this fucking team and 99% of those who support it.

Godmotherfucking dammit.

Cripes, man.  It's game 1.  Of 162.  I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

He's sucked for two years. He's established a pattern of sucking.

He's a serial sucker.

I had a suit made of serialsucker once...oh god, even I can't bring myelf to put on the forktags...

Forget it. He's like the King Midas of Suck.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 12:40:17 PM
I don't understand how the Samardzija contract doesn't get as much negative publicity as the Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones contract. He gave a $10 million contract (with a no trade clause) to a guy who had a 4.33 ERA and 1.41 WHIP his last year at ND. Hell, I've heard part of the reason the Peavy trade failed was because they couldn't deal Samardzija. He's done absolutely nothing to earn a dime of that money.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 01:00:04 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 12:40:17 PM
I don't understand how the Samardzija contract doesn't get as much negative publicity as the Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones contract. He gave a $10 million contract (with a no trade clause) to a guy who had a 4.33 ERA and 1.41 WHIP his last year at ND. Hell, I've heard part of the reason the Peavy trade failed was because they couldn't deal Samardzija. He's done absolutely nothing to earn a dime of that money.

Well, there are two reasons:

1) Samardzija will earn as much money in 4 seasons as Soriano will in the next 100 games.

2) His contract does not require a 25-man roster spot.  Jeff can be sent to the minors.  The same could not be said of Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 01:00:04 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 12:40:17 PM
I don't understand how the Samardzija contract doesn't get as much negative publicity as the Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones contract. He gave a $10 million contract (with a no trade clause) to a guy who had a 4.33 ERA and 1.41 WHIP his last year at ND. Hell, I've heard part of the reason the Peavy trade failed was because they couldn't deal Samardzija. He's done absolutely nothing to earn a dime of that money.

Well, there are two reasons:

1) Samardzija will earn as much money in 4 seasons as Soriano will in the next 100 games.

2) His contract does not require a 25-man roster spot.  Jeff can be sent to the minors.  The same could not be said of Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 01:00:04 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 12:40:17 PM
I don't understand how the Samardzija contract doesn't get as much negative publicity as the Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones contract. He gave a $10 million contract (with a no trade clause) to a guy who had a 4.33 ERA and 1.41 WHIP his last year at ND. Hell, I've heard part of the reason the Peavy trade failed was because they couldn't deal Samardzija. He's done absolutely nothing to earn a dime of that money.

Well, there are two reasons:

1) Samardzija will earn as much money in 4 seasons as Soriano will in the next 100 games.

2) His contract does not require a 25-man roster spot.  Jeff can be sent to the minors.  The same could not be said of Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 01:24:02 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 01:00:04 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 12:40:17 PM
I don't understand how the Samardzija contract doesn't get as much negative publicity as the Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones contract. He gave a $10 million contract (with a no trade clause) to a guy who had a 4.33 ERA and 1.41 WHIP his last year at ND. Hell, I've heard part of the reason the Peavy trade failed was because they couldn't deal Samardzija. He's done absolutely nothing to earn a dime of that money.

Well, there are two reasons:

1) Samardzija will earn as much money in 4 seasons as Soriano will in the next 100 games.

2) His contract does not require a 25-man roster spot.  Jeff can be sent to the minors.  The same could not be said of Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones.

I realize the contract is relatively minor cash wise. In level of stupidity, however, it's nearly equal. They gave way too much money to a guy who wouldn't have been a first round pick had the Cubs not been determined to steal him away from football. Your second point is also invalid because the very reason he hasn't just spent the last three seasons learning how to pitch in the minors is that Hendry keeps calling him up in hopes that he'll justify the big stupid contract.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 01:24:02 PM
Your second point is also invalid because the very reason he hasn't just spent the last three seasons learning how to pitch in the minors is that Hendry keeps calling him up in hopes that he'll justify the big stupid contract.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 01:24:02 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 01:00:04 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 12:40:17 PM
I don't understand how the Samardzija contract doesn't get as much negative publicity as the Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones contract. He gave a $10 million contract (with a no trade clause) to a guy who had a 4.33 ERA and 1.41 WHIP his last year at ND. Hell, I've heard part of the reason the Peavy trade failed was because they couldn't deal Samardzija. He's done absolutely nothing to earn a dime of that money.

Well, there are two reasons:

1) Samardzija will earn as much money in 4 seasons as Soriano will in the next 100 games.

2) His contract does not require a 25-man roster spot.  Jeff can be sent to the minors.  The same could not be said of Soriano or Bradley or Marquis or Jacque Jones.

I realize the contract is relatively minor cash wise. In level of stupidity, however, it's nearly equal. They gave way too much money to a guy who wouldn't have been a first round pick had the Cubs not been determined to steal him away from football. Your second point is also invalid because the very reason he hasn't just spent the last three seasons learning how to pitch in the minors is that Hendry keeps calling him up in hopes that he'll justify the big stupid contract.

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 02:25:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 02:25:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 02:32:16 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 02:25:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Quote from: Day Man on April 06, 2010, 03:01:33 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 02:32:16 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 02:25:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/2003/round48/) in the first place?

Quote from: Yeti on April 06, 2010, 03:07:39 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 06, 2010, 03:01:33 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 02:32:16 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 02:25:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/2003/round48/) in the first place?

Thanks for sucking the joyful positive out of me.. Thanks a lot.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 03:11:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on April 06, 2010, 03:07:39 PM

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Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 02:25:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/2003/round48/) in the first place?

Thanks for sucking the joyful positive out of me.. Thanks a lot.

Sweet Jesus, they drafted Lincecum? I've lost all faith in humanity.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:13:32 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 03:11:24 PM

Quote from: Yeti on April 06, 2010, 03:07:39 PM

Quote from: Day Man on April 06, 2010, 03:01:33 PM

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Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 02:25:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/2003/round48/) in the first place?

Thanks for sucking the joyful positive out of me.. Thanks a lot.

Sweet Jesus, they drafted Lincecum? I've lost all faith in humanity.

Well, to be fair it was out of high school in the 48th round.
Lincecum correctly predicted that college would bump up his draft status.

This is more kudos to the Cubs for even recognizing his talent at such an early level.

How's that for Joyful Positive??

Quote from: Day Man on April 06, 2010, 03:01:33 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 02:32:16 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 02:25:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/2003/round48/) in the first place?

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

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Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

Quote from: Yeti on April 06, 2010, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Quote from: Yeti on April 06, 2010, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Quote from: Yeti on April 06, 2010, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 03:37:38 PM

Quote from: Yeti on April 06, 2010, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Correct. (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6102)

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

Quote
  2005   Carl Henry, ss   17
  2004   Philip Hughes, rhp   23
  2003   Eric Duncan   27
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   John Ford-Griffin, 3b   23
  2000   David Parrish, c   28
  1999   Danny Walling, rhp   27

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  2005   Colby Rasmus, cf   28
  2004   Christopher Lambert, rhp   19
  2003   Daric Barton, c   28
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   Justin Pope, rhp   28
  2000   Shaun Boyd, 2b   13
  1999   Chance Caple, rhp   30

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  2005   Lance Broadway, rhp   15
  2004   Joshua Fields, 3b   18
  2002   Royce Ring, lhp   18
  2001   Kris Honel, rhp   16
  2000   Joe Borchard, rf   12
  1999   Jason Stumm, rhp   15
  1999   Matt Ginter, rhp   22

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  2005   Jacob Ellsbury, cf   23
  2004   NONE   --
  2003   David Murphy, of   17
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   NONE   --
  2000   Phillip Dumatrait, lhp   22
  1999   Rick Asadoorian, of   17

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    2005   NONE   --
    2004   Gregory Golson, cf   21
    2003   Timothy Moss, 2b   85
    2002   Cole Hamels, rhp   17
    2001   Gavin Floyd, rhp   4
    2000   Chase Utley, 2b   15
    1999   Brett Myers, rhp   12

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

Before you all get your panties in a bunch, let's see how all the recent World Series champions have done...

Yankees

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  2005   Carl Henry, ss   17
  2004   Philip Hughes, rhp   23
  2003   Eric Duncan   27
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   John Ford-Griffin, 3b   23
  2000   David Parrish, c   28
  1999   Danny Walling, rhp   27

Cardinals

Quote
  2005   Colby Rasmus, cf   28
  2004   Christopher Lambert, rhp   19
  2003   Daric Barton, c   28
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   Justin Pope, rhp   28
  2000   Shaun Boyd, 2b   13
  1999   Chance Caple, rhp   30

White Sox

Quote
  2005   Lance Broadway, rhp   15
  2004   Joshua Fields, 3b   18
  2002   Royce Ring, lhp   18
  2001   Kris Honel, rhp   16
  2000   Joe Borchard, rf   12
  1999   Jason Stumm, rhp   15
  1999   Matt Ginter, rhp   22

Red Sox

Quote
  2005   Jacob Ellsbury, cf   23
  2004   NONE   --
  2003   David Murphy, of   17
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   NONE   --
  2000   Phillip Dumatrait, lhp   22
  1999   Rick Asadoorian, of   17

Phillies

Quote
    2005   NONE   --
    2004   Gregory Golson, cf   21
    2003   Timothy Moss, 2b   85
    2002   Cole Hamels, rhp   17
    2001   Gavin Floyd, rhp   4
    2000   Chase Utley, 2b   15
    1999   Brett Myers, rhp   12

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 06, 2010, 03:56:15 PM
I'm stunned to discover Luis Montanez played in that many major league games.

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Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 06, 2010, 03:56:15 PM
I'm stunned to discover Luis Montanez played in that many major league games.

They were all 08-09 in Baltimore.

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 04:12:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

But he didn't.

I mean, if a plane crashed into Colby Rasmus' house, killing him, the Cardinals'  list would be seriously fucked.  

Come on.  5 out of those  7 guys never even played in a single major league game, and of those 5, only 1 made it as high as AA.  As bad as some of those other names were, many of them at least made the bigs (or, I can assume above double-freaking A).

I'm not asking for our corpulent GM to have drafted guys who were all big-league studs.  Just guys who aren't out of fucking pro baseball within 4 years.

And I like my panties bunched, thankyouverymuch.

Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 04:44:43 PM

Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 03:37:38 PM

Quote from: Yeti on April 06, 2010, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 06, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Correct. (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6102)

QuoteWe didn't really do it by design, as we thought those guys were our best options, talent-wise, when we picked--in the case of Samardzija, one of the best in the whole draft.

Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 04:12:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

But he didn't.

I mean, if a plane crashed into Colby Rasmus' house, killing him, the Cardinals'  list would be seriously fucked.  

Come on.  5 out of those  7 guys never even played in a single major league game, and of those 5, only 1 made it as high as AA.  As bad as some of those other names were, many of them at least made the bigs (or, I can assume above double-freaking A).

I'm not asking for our corpulent GM to have drafted guys who were all big-league studs.  Just guys who aren't out of fucking pro baseball within 4 years.

And I like my panties bunched, thankyouverymuch.

I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

Quote from: BH on April 06, 2010, 04:56:55 PM

Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 04:12:32 PM

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

But he didn't.

I mean, if a plane crashed into Colby Rasmus' house, killing him, the Cardinals'  list would be seriously fucked.  

Come on.  5 out of those  7 guys never even played in a single major league game, and of those 5, only 1 made it as high as AA.  As bad as some of those other names were, many of them at least made the bigs (or, I can assume above double-freaking A).

I'm not asking for our corpulent GM to have drafted guys who were all big-league studs.  Just guys who aren't out of fucking pro baseball within 4 years.

And I like my panties bunched, thankyouverymuch.

I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

When did Brownlie ever have any fucking value? I don't think you can trade a guy before you draft him.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 04:47:09 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 04:44:43 PM

Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 06:53:11 PM

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

Except all of the players from the other teams actually made the majors, while the Cubs only had two, none of those teams were as consistently poor as the Cubs were when they were grabbing their first round draft picks (the Cubs won fewer than 70 games in 3 of those seasons, whereas all of those teams were drafting from the middle or end of the first round pretty much every single one of those years) and, most importantly of all ... unlike every team you are comparing them to, the Cubs never won a World Series in the 00's.  Why you'd compare the Cubs draft habits to perpetually successful baseball franchises is beyond me; the comparison totally irrelevant. 

I get that you're not really trying to be an apologist for how ridiculously shitty an appraiser of talent Jim Hendry is, but make no mistake.  Jim Hendry is a ridiculously shitty appraiser of talent. 

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 06:53:11 PM
Jim Hendry is a ridiculously shitty appraiser of talent. 

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Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 06:53:11 PM

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

Except all of the players from the other teams actually made the majors, while the Cubs only had two, none of those teams were as consistently poor as the Cubs were when they were grabbing their first round draft picks (the Cubs won fewer than 70 games in 3 of those seasons, whereas all of those teams were drafting from the middle or end of the first round pretty much every single one of those years) and, most importantly of all ... unlike every team you are comparing them to, the Cubs never won a World Series in the 00's.  Why you'd compare the Cubs draft habits to perpetually successful baseball franchises is beyond me; the comparison totally irrelevant.  

I get that you're not really trying to be an apologist for how ridiculously shitty an appraiser of talent Jim Hendry is, but make no mistake.  Jim Hendry is a ridiculously shitty appraiser of talent.  

If you were anyone other than you, I'd THIS this.

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Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

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Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

Right, I forgot about this particular Chuckism -- trades are only good if the players traded are really highly regarded.

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Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

Right, I forgot about this particular Chuckism -- trades are only good if the players traded are really highly regarded.

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Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

Right, I forgot about this particular Chuckism -- trades are only good if the players traded are really highly regarded.

Oh.  You were talking about Trader Jim's good trades.  Bless me, but I thought the issue at hand was trading of highly regarded prospects before their value diminished.

I bow to your topic changing skills.

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Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

Right, I forgot about this particular Chuckism -- trades are only good if the players traded are really highly regarded.

Oh.  You were talking about Trader Jim's good trades.  Bless me, but I thought the issue at hand was trading of highly regarded prospects before their value diminished.

I bow to your topic changing skills.

If the point is that Hendry cleverly had us -- and the rest of the baseball world -- fooled for about five years regarding his ability to appraise and develop talent, then it's a good point.  He was still a shit drafter and an even shittier developer, no matter who he fleeced for which studs.

That's why the Cubs are still screwed, btw.  Colvin looked fantastic this Spring, what with his many hits and ZERO walks.  That is Hendry's problem -- like Dusty, he has never valued plate discipline in the players he's developed.  I'd even take back the "shit drafter" opinion and surmise that he's WASTED talented prospects by never having them focus on developing plate discipline.  And that includes the beacons of hope Starlin Castro and Josh Vitters -- Starlin walked all of 29 times in just under 500 plate appearances last year, while Vitters walked a Dunstonesque 12 times in 470 PAs.  Here's a fucking hint: being aggressive at the plate stops working when the pitcher can throw a breaking ball that starts at your head and ends at your waist.

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Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

Right, I forgot about this particular Chuckism -- trades are only good if the players traded are really highly regarded.

Oh.  You were talking about Trader Jim's good trades.  Bless me, but I thought the issue at hand was trading of highly regarded prospects before their value diminished.

I bow to your topic changing skills.

If the point is that Hendry cleverly had us -- and the rest of the baseball world -- fooled for about five years regarding his ability to appraise and develop talent, then it's a good point.  He was still a shit drafter and an even shittier developer, no matter who he fleeced for which studs.

That's why the Cubs are still screwed, btw.  Colvin looked fantastic this Spring, what with his many hits and ZERO walks.  That is Hendry's problem -- like Dusty, he has never valued plate discipline in the players he's developed.  I'd even take back the "shit drafter" opinion and surmise that he's WASTED talented prospects by never having them focus on developing plate discipline.  And that includes the beacons of hope Starlin Castro and Josh Vitters -- Starlin walked all of 29 times in just under 500 plate appearances last year, while Vitters walked a Dunstonesque 12 times in 470 PAs.  Here's a fucking hint: being aggressive at the plate stops working when the pitcher can throw a breaking ball that starts at your head and ends at your waist.

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Forgive me for I watched, listened to, and read the box scores of zero innings this Spring Training....but did Vitters get any time with the big club in Mesa?  I didn't  hear his name come up once this March.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 09:34:48 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:18:35 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 08:38:52 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 07:50:04 PM

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Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 04:47:09 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 04:44:43 PM

Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

Right, I forgot about this particular Chuckism -- trades are only good if the players traded are really highly regarded.

Oh.  You were talking about Trader Jim's good trades.  Bless me, but I thought the issue at hand was trading of highly regarded prospects before their value diminished.

I bow to your topic changing skills.

If the point is that Hendry cleverly had us -- and the rest of the baseball world -- fooled for about five years regarding his ability to appraise and develop talent, then it's a good point.  He was still a shit drafter and an even shittier developer, no matter who he fleeced for which studs.

That's why the Cubs are still screwed, btw.  Colvin looked fantastic this Spring, what with his many hits and ZERO walks.  That is Hendry's problem -- like Dusty, he has never valued plate discipline in the players he's developed.  I'd even take back the "shit drafter" opinion and surmise that he's WASTED talented prospects by never having them focus on developing plate discipline.  And that includes the beacons of hope Starlin Castro and Josh Vitters -- Starlin walked all of 29 times in just under 500 plate appearances last year, while Vitters walked a Dunstonesque 12 times in 470 PAs.  Here's a fucking hint: being aggressive at the plate stops working when the pitcher can throw a breaking ball that starts at your head and ends at your waist.

Vitters did suck last year. At least he and Castro are only 19. Hopefully it's just youthful impatience. That's all I've got.

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:39:49 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Forgive me for I watched, listened to, and read the box scores of zero innings this Spring Training....but did Vitters get any time with the big club in Mesa?  I didn't  hear his name come up once this March.

Not that I'm aware of, but isn't he usually mentioned as a Top Prospect?

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:43:53 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:39:49 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Forgive me for I watched, listened to, and read the box scores of zero innings this Spring Training....but did Vitters get any time with the big club in Mesa?  I didn't  hear his name come up once this March.

Not that I'm aware of, but isn't he usually mentioned as a Top Prospect?

I'll ask it again as my American English obviouly confused you.

DID JOSH VITTERS PLAY WITH THE BIG CLUB IN ANY CACTUS LEAGUE GAMES?

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:46:55 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:43:53 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:39:49 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Forgive me for I watched, listened to, and read the box scores of zero innings this Spring Training....but did Vitters get any time with the big club in Mesa?  I didn't  hear his name come up once this March.

Not that I'm aware of, but isn't he usually mentioned as a Top Prospect?

I'll ask it again as my American English obviouly confused you.

DID JOSH VITTERS PLAY WITH THE BIG CLUB IN ANY CACTUS LEAGUE GAMES?

Not that I'm aware of?

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:50:19 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:46:55 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:43:53 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:39:49 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Forgive me for I watched, listened to, and read the box scores of zero innings this Spring Training....but did Vitters get any time with the big club in Mesa?  I didn't  hear his name come up once this March.

Not that I'm aware of, but isn't he usually mentioned as a Top Prospect?

I'll ask it again as my American English obviouly confused you.

DID JOSH VITTERS PLAY WITH THE BIG CLUB IN ANY CACTUS LEAGUE GAMES?

Not that I'm aware of?

Okay that was funny.

Seriously, does the interwebs just swallow spring training stats once the season starts?  I can't find me my damn Vitterstats!

Quote from: R-V on April 06, 2010, 09:43:25 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 09:34:48 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:18:35 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 08:38:52 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2010, 07:50:04 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 06:14:16 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 04:47:09 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 04:44:43 PM

Quote from: CT III on April 06, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

Right, I forgot about this particular Chuckism -- trades are only good if the players traded are really highly regarded.

Oh.  You were talking about Trader Jim's good trades.  Bless me, but I thought the issue at hand was trading of highly regarded prospects before their value diminished.

I bow to your topic changing skills.

If the point is that Hendry cleverly had us -- and the rest of the baseball world -- fooled for about five years regarding his ability to appraise and develop talent, then it's a good point.  He was still a shit drafter and an even shittier developer, no matter who he fleeced for which studs.

That's why the Cubs are still screwed, btw.  Colvin looked fantastic this Spring, what with his many hits and ZERO walks.  That is Hendry's problem -- like Dusty, he has never valued plate discipline in the players he's developed.  I'd even take back the "shit drafter" opinion and surmise that he's WASTED talented prospects by never having them focus on developing plate discipline.  And that includes the beacons of hope Starlin Castro and Josh Vitters -- Starlin walked all of 29 times in just under 500 plate appearances last year, while Vitters walked a Dunstonesque 12 times in 470 PAs.  Here's a fucking hint: being aggressive at the plate stops working when the pitcher can throw a breaking ball that starts at your head and ends at your waist.

Vitters did suck last year. At least he and Castro are only 19. Hopefully it's just youthful impatience. That's all I've got.

.886 OPS at age 19 in low A-ball. Maybe not HOLY SHIT good, but he definitely didn't suck. He put up a shitty .604 OPS when he moved up to high A, but that could just be an adjustment period. I'd expect him to do well at Daytona this year. If not, then yeah, he probably sucks.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 06, 2010, 08:38:52 PM
Oh.  You were talking about Trader Jim's good trades.  Bless me, but I thought the issue at hand was trading of highly regarded prospects before their value diminished.

I bow to your topic changing skills.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 10:31:55 PM
All this talk of failed Cubs prospects has led me to my yearly search of independent league rosters so that I can laugh (http://www.newarkbears.com/thebears/currentroster/index.html?player_id=132) at the former (http://www.newarkbears.com/thebears/currentroster/index.html?player_id=105) Cubs (http://www.bridgeportbluefish.com/team/roster/index.html?player_id=30) who have fallen (http://www.bridgeportbluefish.com/team/roster/index.html?player_id=84) so far.

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 10:36:17 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2010, 10:31:55 PM
All this talk of failed Cubs prospects has led me to my yearly search of independent league rosters so that I can laugh (http://www.newarkbears.com/thebears/currentroster/index.html?player_id=132) at the former (http://www.newarkbears.com/thebears/currentroster/index.html?player_id=105) Cubs (http://www.bridgeportbluefish.com/team/roster/index.html?player_id=30) who have fallen (http://www.bridgeportbluefish.com/team/roster/index.html?player_id=84) so far.

Who knew that all along Jim Hendry was really scouting for the Newark Bears?

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:53:29 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:50:19 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:46:55 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:43:53 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 09:39:49 PM

Quote from: MAD on April 06, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Forgive me for I watched, listened to, and read the box scores of zero innings this Spring Training....but did Vitters get any time with the big club in Mesa?  I didn't  hear his name come up once this March.

Not that I'm aware of, but isn't he usually mentioned as a Top Prospect?

I'll ask it again as my American English obviouly confused you.

DID JOSH VITTERS PLAY WITH THE BIG CLUB IN ANY CACTUS LEAGUE GAMES?

Not that I'm aware of?

Okay that was funny.

Seriously, does the interwebs just swallow spring training stats once the season starts?  I can't find me my damn Vitterstats!

It's tricky, but if you go to Cubs.com, and place your pointer over "stats," you will see "spring training" appear as an option.

Then answer is, 5 games, 5 for 14, 1 double, 1 triple, 0 BB, 1 SO.

Quote from: Canadouche on April 06, 2010, 06:53:11 PM

Quote from: Pre on April 06, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

Except all of the players from the other teams actually made the majors, while the Cubs only had two, none of those teams were as consistently poor as the Cubs were when they were grabbing their first round draft picks (the Cubs won fewer than 70 games in 3 of those seasons, whereas all of those teams were drafting from the middle or end of the first round pretty much every single one of those years) and, most importantly of all ... unlike every team you are comparing them to, the Cubs never won a World Series in the 00's.  Why you'd compare the Cubs draft habits to perpetually successful baseball franchises is beyond me; the comparison totally irrelevant.  

I get that you're not really trying to be an apologist for how ridiculously shitty an appraiser of talent Jim Hendry is, but make no mistake.  Jim Hendry is a ridiculously shitty appraiser of talent.  

Quote from: MidgetSellingWater on April 15, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
Here's hoping a reservation was just made on the next bus to Iowa.  It's beautiful there this time of year, Jeff.

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Quote from: MidgetSellingWater on April 15, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
Here's hoping a reservation was just made on the next bus to Iowa.  It's beautiful there this time of year, Jeff.

Somebody's gotta go when Lilly comes back. Might as well be him.

Quote from: CBStew on April 15, 2010, 04:09:03 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 15, 2010, 04:03:06 PM

Quote from: MidgetSellingWater on April 15, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
Here's hoping a reservation was just made on the next bus to Iowa.  It's beautiful there this time of year, Jeff.

Somebody's gotta go when Lilly comes back. Might as well be him.

He is like a Yo-yo.  Send him down he always comes back.

Quote from: MidgetSellingWater on April 15, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
Here's hoping a reservation was just made on the next bus to Iowa Uzbekistan.  It's beautiful there this time of year, Jeff.

Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2010, 04:24:22 PM
I'm thinking Samardzija has a great future selling life insurance in Goshen, Ind. or some place where playing for Notre Dame earns you some kind of admiration.

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Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2010, 04:24:22 PM
I'm thinking Samardzija has a great future selling life insurance in Goshen, Ind. or some place where playing for Notre Dame earns you some kind of admiration.

He'd have to cut his hair to succeed selling in Goshen.   No chance those folk are buying life insurance from a guy with lady hair.   They'll confuse him for one of those queers....and some guy named Cooter would pull out his vintage rifle and shoot him.

Suddenly, I like your idea even better.

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:27:35 PM
S'mardja is goddamn awful and I am absolutely sick of watching this bum trot out there, especially when games are actually in the balance.  But is wasn't in the balance long after ol' hair started throwing the little white ball around, was it?

:: sick face::

This guy and this guy alone should be enough reason for donuts to be on his way out of town.  He won the lottery when he signed with the Cubs.  Now fuck off and invest the rest of your winnings you absolute piece of shit.

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 15, 2010, 05:29:59 PM

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:27:35 PM
S'mardja is goddamn awful and I am absolutely sick of watching this bum trot out there, especially when games are actually in the balance.  But is wasn't in the balance long after ol' hair started throwing the little white ball around, was it?

:: sick face::

This guy and this guy alone should be enough reason for donuts to be on his way out of town.  He won the lottery when he signed with the Cubs.  Now fuck off and invest the rest of your winnings you absolute piece of shit.

Shut it, Paul.

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
He's awful and you all know it.

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:51:30 PM
I know.  Its just he's just probably my most hated Cub in recent memory, if not all time.   

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 15, 2010, 07:34:53 PM

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:51:30 PM
I know.  Its just he's just probably my most hated Cub in recent memory, if not all time.   

(http://www.cubschronicle.com/images/players/neifi-perez.jpg)

Que?

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 15, 2010, 05:29:59 PM

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:27:35 PM
S'mardja is goddamn awful and I am absolutely sick of watching this bum trot out there, especially when games are actually in the balance.  But is wasn't in the balance long after ol' hair started throwing the little white ball around, was it?

:: sick face::

This guy and this guy alone should be enough reason for donuts to be on his way out of town.  He won the lottery when he signed with the Cubs.  Now fuck off and invest the rest of your winnings you absolute piece of shit.

Shut it, Paul.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 15, 2010, 08:20:20 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 15, 2010, 05:29:59 PM

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:27:35 PM
S'mardja is goddamn awful and I am absolutely sick of watching this bum trot out there, especially when games are actually in the balance.  But is wasn't in the balance long after ol' hair started throwing the little white ball around, was it?

:: sick face::

This guy and this guy alone should be enough reason for donuts to be on his way out of town.  He won the lottery when he signed with the Cubs.  Now fuck off and invest the rest of your winnings you absolute piece of shit.

Shut it, Paul.

I'm told Newburgh, Indiana is the Hobart of the Ohio River Valley.

Quote from: Bort on April 15, 2010, 08:02:28 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 15, 2010, 07:34:53 PM

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:51:30 PM
I know.  Its just he's just probably my most hated Cub in recent memory, if not all time.   

(http://www.cubschronicle.com/images/players/neifi-perez.jpg)

Que?

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/12/14/timestopics/hundely.jpg)

(http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/.a/6a00d83451583769e2011570241de1970b-800wi)

We'd like a word with you.

Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2010, 04:24:22 PM
I'm thinking Samardzija has a great future selling life insurance in Goshen, Ind. or some place where playing for Notre Dame earns you some kind of admiration.

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 01:06:13 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Well, when I clicked reply roughly 25% of these words didn't have the little red squiggly lines

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:32:54 AM

Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 01:06:13 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Well, when I clicked reply roughly 25% of these words didn't have the little red squiggly lines

heees a douches, thas all need to no. fuck hath guy. fuacking notre daame cosackser. im blame BK.

Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 01:58:50 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:32:54 AM

Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 01:06:13 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Well, when I clicked reply roughly 25% of these words didn't have the little red squiggly lines

heees a douches, thas all need to no. fuck hath guy. fuacking notre daame cosackser. im blame BK.

Cough syrup?

Quote from: Waco Kid on April 15, 2010, 09:22:17 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 15, 2010, 08:02:28 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 15, 2010, 07:34:53 PM

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:51:30 PM
I know.  Its just he's just probably my most hated Cub in recent memory, if not all time.   

(http://www.cubschronicle.com/images/players/neifi-perez.jpg)

Que?

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/12/14/timestopics/hundely.jpg)

(http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/.a/6a00d83451583769e2011570241de1970b-800wi)

We'd like a word with you.

(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/81372394.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA548D2E563896D99CB46DD0C3FF330C426D24AFBAA1D2824582F)

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
jaime hendry

Quote from: morpheus on April 16, 2010, 02:21:04 AM

Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 01:58:50 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:32:54 AM

Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 01:06:13 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Well, when I clicked reply roughly 25% of these words didn't have the little red squiggly lines

heees a douches, thas all need to no. fuck hath guy. fuacking notre daame cosackser. im blame BK.

Cough syrup?

If I had to guess:

(http://www.clownandbard.com/wp-content/absinthe-original-bitter.jpg)

Quote from: Bort on April 16, 2010, 08:48:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on April 16, 2010, 02:21:04 AM

Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 01:58:50 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:32:54 AM

Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 01:06:13 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Well, when I clicked reply roughly 25% of these words didn't have the little red squiggly lines

heees a douches, thas all need to no. fuck hath guy. fuacking notre daame cosackser. im blame BK.

Cough syrup?

If I had to guess:

(http://www.clownandbard.com/wp-content/absinthe-original-bitter.jpg)

Epic, SKO.

Simply epic.

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 15, 2010, 08:20:20 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 15, 2010, 05:29:59 PM

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:27:35 PM
S'mardja is goddamn awful and I am absolutely sick of watching this bum trot out there, especially when games are actually in the balance.  But is wasn't in the balance long after ol' hair started throwing the little white ball around, was it?

:: sick face::

This guy and this guy alone should be enough reason for donuts to be on his way out of town.  He won the lottery when he signed with the Cubs.  Now fuck off and invest the rest of your winnings you absolute piece of shit.

Shut it, Paul.

I'm told Newburgh, Indiana is the Hobart of the Ohio River Valley.

Quote from: Jub on April 16, 2010, 09:48:36 AM

Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 15, 2010, 08:20:20 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 15, 2010, 05:29:59 PM

Quote from: Jub on April 15, 2010, 05:27:35 PM
S'mardja is goddamn awful and I am absolutely sick of watching this bum trot out there, especially when games are actually in the balance.  But is wasn't in the balance long after ol' hair started throwing the little white ball around, was it?

:: sick face::

This guy and this guy alone should be enough reason for donuts to be on his way out of town.  He won the lottery when he signed with the Cubs.  Now fuck off and invest the rest of your winnings you absolute piece of shit.

Shut it, Paul.

I'm told Newburgh, Indiana is the Hobart of the Ohio River Valley.

Wait a minute...  Did you?  Uh oh.

I used to hate Will Ohman pretty badly too.

Quote from: SMan on April 16, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Fuck you all! Yeah, thats right, fuck you! Just because someone cums and has a different way of doing things, you assholes get your panties in your hair, if you even have any unlike me baby! You all can go to hell!

But I guess its right. See, I doubt any of you have the upper edumacation you get at an ivory league school! Yeah, I went to Notre Damn you fuck heads, so suck it! The only ivory you assholes know is the stuff you cry over when you spill your beers yelling shit at your own team! Really, how fucked up are you? So being of a high edumacation like me and being a superstar in Football like me, I know that there are other ways of beating people. You know, like wornding down the other club! Sure you all get your hardons poppin over Marshall as he has his sad little 3 man innings, but let me ask you this, how exactly does that wear down his opponets? I'll tell you, it doesnt! So then you know what happens? People like Grabow and Caridad and myself have to face a un-wornded team, and it isnt easy!

So here I am doing everything I can to help the club win by forcing all the other guys with bats up to the plate, making them all swing the bat and then making them run around the bases and in the end, you have a team that is wornded out! Yeah, thats right, I am wornding them down baby! I am doing my job and you assholes still give me shit for it? Lou knows the score, Lou told me I rock! So fuck you inbred drunks! Milton was right, this is just a fucked up city with you unedumacated thinking!

So fuck you, fuck you and the Donkey you ride on!
And consider yourselves bite by the Shark baby!  

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2010, 09:19:12 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Bump?

Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 19, 2010, 09:18:07 PM
Jeff Samardzija needs to die in a fire.

Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2010, 08:06:47 AM
Jeff Samardzija needs stationary bike lessons from Steve Trout and Jay Williams.

Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2010, 08:06:47 AM
Jeff Samardzija needs stationary bike lessons from Steve Trout and Jay Williams.

Quote from: BH on April 20, 2010, 09:02:57 AM

Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2010, 08:06:47 AM
Jeff Samardzija needs stationary bike lessons from Steve Trout and Jay Williams.

And/or Oleg.

Quote from: BH on April 20, 2010, 09:02:57 AM

Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2010, 08:06:47 AM
Jeff Samardzija needs stationary bike lessons from Steve Trout and Jay Williams.

And/or Oleg.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

Quote from: Slaky on June 29, 2010, 08:55:34 PM
I need to hire Mark Rodgers to negotiate everything for me for the rest of my life.

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM
Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Quote from: Eli on June 30, 2010, 02:56:04 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM
Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Stop being so persecuted and butthurt about getting called out for walking around butthurt all the time.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 30, 2010, 03:00:36 PM

Quote from: Eli on June 30, 2010, 02:56:04 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM
Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Stop being so persecuted and butthurt about getting called out for walking around butthurt all the time.

KermEvans?

Quote from: Eli on June 30, 2010, 02:56:04 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM
Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Stop being so persecuted and butthurt about getting called out for walking around butthurt all the time.

Quote from: R-V on June 30, 2010, 03:08:00 PM

Quote from: Eli on June 30, 2010, 02:56:04 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM
Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Stop being so persecuted and butthurt about getting called out for walking around butthurt all the time.

I'm butthurt that Kerm told Hendry to acquire his buds bros Snork, Heilman, and Grant Johnson.

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 03:24:03 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Huey invented the term butthurt.  Or at least popularized its use around here.

Quote from: R-V on June 30, 2010, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 03:24:03 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Huey invented the term butthurt.  Or at least popularized its use around here.

That red-faced potato eater is going to be pretty butthurt when he finds out he didn't get credit for inventing butthurt.

Quote from: Slaky on June 30, 2010, 03:37:11 PM

Quote from: R-V on June 30, 2010, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 03:24:03 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Huey invented the term butthurt.  Or at least popularized its use around here.

That red-faced potato eater is going to be pretty butthurt when he finds out he didn't get credit for inventing butthurt.

Get ready for a lengthy rant from the Anti-Hemingway.

Quote from: R-V on June 30, 2010, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 03:24:03 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Huey invented the term butthurt.  Or at least popularized its use around here.

That red-faced potato eater is going to be pretty butthurt when he finds out he didn't get credit for inventing butthurt.

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 04:09:33 PM

Quote from: R-V on June 30, 2010, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 03:24:03 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Huey invented the term butthurt.  Or at least popularized its use around here.

That red-faced potato eater is going to be pretty butthurt when he finds out he didn't get credit for inventing butthurt.

Truer words have never been typed.

Quote from: MAD on June 30, 2010, 04:56:54 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 04:09:33 PM

Quote from: R-V on June 30, 2010, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 03:24:03 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Huey invented the term butthurt.  Or at least popularized its use around here.

That red-faced potato eater is going to be pretty butthurt when he finds out he didn't get credit for inventing butthurt.

Truer words have never been typed.

It was Apex, you turds, and the term is "asshurt"

Quote from: MAD on June 30, 2010, 04:56:54 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 04:09:33 PM

Quote from: R-V on June 30, 2010, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 03:24:03 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Huey invented the term butthurt.  Or at least popularized its use around here.

That red-faced potato eater is going to be pretty butthurt when he finds out he didn't get credit for inventing butthurt.

Truer words have never been typed.

It was Apex, you turds, and the term is "asshurt"

Quote from: MAD on June 30, 2010, 04:56:54 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 04:09:33 PM

Quote from: R-V on June 30, 2010, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2010, 03:24:03 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

Quote from: Kermit IV on June 30, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 30, 2010, 08:34:45 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 30, 2010, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Night Man on June 29, 2010, 08:54:45 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 29, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
He is under contract for 2011 at $3.5 million and, for 2012 $6.5 million.

Seriously.

The 2012 year is a team option.  Man, the Cubs got lucky there.  Hendry musta screwed up and got his normal players option clause backwards.

Don't forget the no-trade.

QuoteJeff Samardzija rhp

5 years/$10M (2007-11), plus 2012 & 2013 club options
signed Major League contract with Cubs 1/07, giving up football
$2M signing bonus
10:$3M
no-trade clause
total value may reach $16.5M with exercise of options
must return bonus & much of remaining $10M if he returns to football
drafted 2006 (5-149) (Notre Dame)
signed 6/06, $1M signing bonus (may increase to $7.25M if Samardzija chooses to play baseball over football)
agent: Mark Rodgers
ML service: 0.152

I'm pretty sure the 7ER in 1 AAA inning is a no trade clause on its own.

:high five:

Reading his contract details made me really mad.

Yeah, reading can be pretty frustrating sometimes.

Why so butthurt, Kermit?

Are Huey and I the only two on the board not allowed to crack wise without being called "butthurt"?  Just checking.

Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Huey invented the term butthurt.  Or at least popularized its use around here.

That red-faced potato eater is going to be pretty butthurt when he finds out he didn't get credit for inventing butthurt.

Truer words have never been typed.

It was Apex, you turds, and the term is "asshurt"

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 01, 2010, 07:54:17 AM
I still want to know why Kermit is so butthurt.

On second thought, I'll just forget about it and offer up this:

(http://stuffeducatedlatinoslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/beer.jpg)

Quote from: Internet Apex on July 01, 2010, 08:52:18 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 01, 2010, 07:54:17 AM
I still want to know why Kermit is so butthurt.

On second thought, I'll just forget about it and offer up this:

(http://stuffeducatedlatinoslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/beer.jpg)

Is there a fart wafting out of that bottle? Is it Bud Wheat?

Quote from: morpheus on October 31, 2011, 01:59:54 PM
Bump.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-to-decline-samardzija-option-resign-at-lower-salary-20111031,0,534385.story

Quote from: Bort on October 31, 2011, 04:52:33 PM

Quote from: morpheus on October 31, 2011, 01:59:54 PM
Bump.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-to-decline-samardzija-option-resign-at-lower-salary-20111031,0,534385.story

I'm willing to give Theo a family discount on a lightly used FIREBARN.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 31, 2011, 05:40:44 PM

Quote from: Bort on October 31, 2011, 04:52:33 PM

Quote from: morpheus on October 31, 2011, 01:59:54 PM
Bump.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-to-decline-samardzija-option-resign-at-lower-salary-20111031,0,534385.story

I'm willing to give Theo a family discount on a lightly used FIREBARN.

We get it. All Jews are related.

Quote from: Bort on October 31, 2011, 05:59:05 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 31, 2011, 05:40:44 PM

Quote from: Bort on October 31, 2011, 04:52:33 PM

Quote from: morpheus on October 31, 2011, 01:59:54 PM
Bump.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-to-decline-samardzija-option-resign-at-lower-salary-20111031,0,534385.story

I'm willing to give Theo a family discount on a lightly used FIREBARN.

We get it. All Jews are related.

Hey, he's my father-in-law's first cousin's first cousin. We're practically brothers.

Quote from: Bort on October 31, 2011, 05:59:05 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 31, 2011, 05:40:44 PM

Quote from: Bort on October 31, 2011, 04:52:33 PM

Quote from: morpheus on October 31, 2011, 01:59:54 PM
Bump.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-to-decline-samardzija-option-resign-at-lower-salary-20111031,0,534385.story

I'm willing to give Theo a family discount on a lightly used FIREBARN.

We get it. All Jews are related.

Hey, he's my father-in-law's first cousin's first cousin. We're practically brothers.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2012, 04:14:11 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

If my white hot hatred is what it takes to make him succeed, then I will do what I have to do.

Quote from: Slaky on April 08, 2012, 07:26:39 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2012, 04:14:11 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

If my white hot hatred is what it takes to make him succeed, then I will do what I have to do.

Your hate is better than premium gasoline because this fucker threw a gem.

Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2012, 01:29:56 PM
Bump.

Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2012, 01:31:36 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2012, 01:29:56 PM
Bump.

(http://i.imgur.com/MKrkE.jpg)

Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2012, 01:31:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MKrkE.jpg)

Quote from: CBStew on June 27, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
Please keep in mind that Mr. 5.05 ERA Samardzija is the "untradeable" Cub.

Quote from: CBStew on June 27, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
Please keep in mind that Mr. 5.05 ERA Samardzija is the "untradeable" Cub.  Now we know it is because no other team would want him.

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Quote from: Eli on June 27, 2012, 04:30:03 PM

Quote from: CBStew on June 27, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
Please keep in mind that Mr. 5.05 ERA Samardzija is the "untradeable" Cub.  Now we know it is because no other team would want him.

I think Stew is our most meatball Desipiot.

Quote from: Slaky on June 28, 2012, 08:29:40 AM
Turns out Samardzija is alien for Marquis.

Quote from: Bort on June 28, 2012, 08:49:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 28, 2012, 08:29:40 AM
Turns out Samardzija is alien for Marquis.

I see the parallels. I hated that fucker with every fiber of my being even when he was serviceable, too.

Quote from: Bort on June 28, 2012, 08:49:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 28, 2012, 08:29:40 AM
Turns out Samardzija is alien for Marquis.

I see the parallels. I hated that fucker with every fiber of my being even when he was serviceable, too.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 02, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/4wzOD.jpg)

"Hey, girl."

Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2012, 04:14:11 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

If my white hot hatred is what it takes to make him succeed, then I will do what I have to do.

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 08, 2012, 09:06:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2012, 04:14:11 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

If my white hot hatred is what it takes to make him succeed, then I will do what I have to do.

Excellent work this season.

Quote from: Bort on September 08, 2012, 10:28:46 PM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 08, 2012, 09:06:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2012, 04:14:11 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

If my white hot hatred is what it takes to make him succeed, then I will do what I have to do.

Excellent work this season.

*tips cap*

Quote from: Slaky on September 09, 2012, 07:46:53 AM

Quote from: Bort on September 08, 2012, 10:28:46 PM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 08, 2012, 09:06:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2012, 04:14:11 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

If my white hot hatred is what it takes to make him succeed, then I will do what I have to do.

Excellent work this season.

*tips cap*

If you can channel that firebarn energy toward the other 50 some odd shit players the Cubs felt the need to use this season we could really kick some ass next year and hit that 70 win mark.

Quote from: Bort on September 09, 2012, 07:49:38 AM

Quote from: Slaky on September 09, 2012, 07:46:53 AM

Quote from: Bort on September 08, 2012, 10:28:46 PM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 08, 2012, 09:06:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2012, 04:14:11 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

If my white hot hatred is what it takes to make him succeed, then I will do what I have to do.

Excellent work this season.

*tips cap*

If you can channel that firebarn energy toward the other 50 some odd shit players the Cubs felt the need to use this season we could really kick some ass next year and hit that 70 win mark.

I can't muster the ability to care about them. Snork, however, is a persistent menace.

Quote from: Bort on September 08, 2012, 10:28:46 PM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 08, 2012, 09:06:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2012, 04:14:11 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Snork shows his mortal fear of a FIREBARN fate.

If my white hot hatred is what it takes to make him succeed, then I will do what I have to do.

Excellent work this season.

*tips cap*

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2012, 04:40:00 PM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2n9xs0m.png)

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 08, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I'd say a 3.1 IP, 11 H, 9 R, 9 ER, 0 BB, 3 SO, 1 HR line merits a bump. Warm up the FIREBARN. 

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 14, 2013, 07:54:32 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 14, 2013, 10:15:19 AM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 14, 2013, 07:54:32 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

SKO's words are as true now as they were then. FY Snorkjuice!

Quote from: SKO on August 14, 2013, 10:27:25 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 14, 2013, 10:15:19 AM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 14, 2013, 07:54:32 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 16, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
this cuaker. he can fuckin adie. god daymint. stupid jaime hendry and his fuackin stpid conta`ts. god damn it why cant he jus die. stupiad smardizja. poeace of shit. god daanit. woud be 8-1 qwiothout that fuackeer. sonmbutch. asssshoe.e

SKO's words are as true now as they were then. FY Snorkjuice!

I believe that was the same night I made my debut on Youtube. I should probably never drink until my liver turns into cement and I get a transplant so I can start over again.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 31, 2013, 12:56:47 AM
Ahem.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 08:49:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/NghzjUr.jpg)

HDG.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 08:49:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/NghzjUr.jpg)

HDG.

Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Guys, I know Christmas is a long way off, but if anyone wants to go ahead and order me a Hot Diarrhea Geyser shirsey...

Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Guys, I know Christmas is a long way off, but if anyone wants to go ahead and order me a Hot Diarrhea Geyser shirsey...

Quote from: Fork on September 09, 2013, 08:59:58 AM

Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Guys, I know Christmas is a long way off, but if anyone wants to go ahead and order me a Hot Diarrhea Geyser shirsey...

Certainly one of you guys who are versed in the dark art of graphic design can whip something up.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 09, 2013, 10:26:56 AM

Quote from: Fork on September 09, 2013, 08:59:58 AM

Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Guys, I know Christmas is a long way off, but if anyone wants to go ahead and order me a Hot Diarrhea Geyser shirsey...

Certainly one of you guys who are versed in the dark art of graphic design can whip something up.

What, you don't like my officially-licensed POO GEYSER shirsey?

Quote from: Fork on September 09, 2013, 10:42:21 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 09, 2013, 10:26:56 AM

Quote from: Fork on September 09, 2013, 08:59:58 AM

Quote from: Bort on September 07, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Guys, I know Christmas is a long way off, but if anyone wants to go ahead and order me a Hot Diarrhea Geyser shirsey...

Certainly one of you guys who are versed in the dark art of graphic design can whip something up.

What, you don't like my officially-licensed POO GEYSER shirsey?

It's nice for causal wear, but what about for formal occasions?

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
The Blue Jays are supposedly putting together a package (https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/404380357866188801) for him.

Quote from: CT III on November 24, 2013, 07:27:42 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
The Blue Jays are supposedly putting together a package (https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/404380357866188801) for him.

SOURCE: Bruce Levine is terrible and always wrong.

Quote from: PenFoe on November 25, 2013, 10:08:58 AM

Quote from: CT III on November 24, 2013, 07:27:42 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
The Blue Jays are supposedly putting together a package (https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/404380357866188801) for him.

SOURCE: Bruce Levine is terrible and always wrong.

\\

Other than Eli's desire for this team to have some veterans for when the win the World Series in 2016, I can't think of any good reasons to keep him. 

Hopefully they can make this happen and add to the stockpile of guys who are unlikely to ever pan out gonna be ready in a couple years.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 25, 2013, 10:24:44 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on November 25, 2013, 10:08:58 AM

Quote from: CT III on November 24, 2013, 07:27:42 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
The Blue Jays are supposedly putting together a package (https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/404380357866188801) for him.

SOURCE: Bruce Levine is terrible and always wrong.

\\

Other than Eli's desire for this team to have some veterans for when the win the World Series in 2016, I can't think of any good reasons to keep him. 

Hopefully they can make this happen and add to the stockpile of guys who are unlikely to ever pan out gonna be ready in a couple years.

I can't think of anyone on the current roster who is either actually untouchable or practically untouchable for when they are ready to compete.

Quote from: PenFoe on November 25, 2013, 10:08:58 AM

Quote from: CT III on November 24, 2013, 07:27:42 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
The Blue Jays are supposedly putting together a package (https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/404380357866188801) for him.

SOURCE: Bruce Levine is terrible and always wrong.

\\

Other than Eli's desire for this team to have some veterans for when the win the World Series in 2016, I can't think of any good reasons to keep him. 

Quote from: Eli on November 25, 2013, 10:37:52 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on November 25, 2013, 10:08:58 AM

Quote from: CT III on November 24, 2013, 07:27:42 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
The Blue Jays are supposedly putting together a package (https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/404380357866188801) for him.

SOURCE: Bruce Levine is terrible and always wrong.

\\

Other than Eli's desire for this team to have some veterans for when the win the World Series in 2016, I can't think of any good reasons to keep him. 

Since the timetable of 2016 (or later) has come out in the past few weeks, I agree. No reason to hang onto him if they don't plan on trying for a few more years.

Quote from: Slaky on November 25, 2013, 11:00:17 AM

Quote from: Eli on November 25, 2013, 10:37:52 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on November 25, 2013, 10:08:58 AM

Quote from: CT III on November 24, 2013, 07:27:42 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
The Blue Jays are supposedly putting together a package (https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/404380357866188801) for him.

SOURCE: Bruce Levine is terrible and always wrong.

\\

Other than Eli's desire for this team to have some veterans for when the win the World Series in 2016, I can't think of any good reasons to keep him.  

Since the timetable of 2016 (or later) has come out in the past few weeks, I agree. No reason to hang onto him if they don't plan on trying for a few more years.

The rumored players they could get from Toronto seem like it'd be a hell of a deal for the Cubs.

Quote from: ColoCubFanJust remember, rarely do the deals heard about ahead of time come to fruition.

It's the ones you don't hear about that happen.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 25, 2013, 11:47:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on November 25, 2013, 11:00:17 AM

Quote from: Eli on November 25, 2013, 10:37:52 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on November 25, 2013, 10:08:58 AM

Quote from: CT III on November 24, 2013, 07:27:42 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 24, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
The Blue Jays are supposedly putting together a package (https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/404380357866188801) for him.

SOURCE: Bruce Levine is terrible and always wrong.

\\

Other than Eli's desire for this team to have some veterans for when the win the World Series in 2016, I can't think of any good reasons to keep him.  

Since the timetable of 2016 (or later) has come out in the past few weeks, I agree. No reason to hang onto him if they don't plan on trying for a few more years.

The rumored players they could get from Toronto seem like it'd be a hell of a deal for the Cubs.

Whoa... Slow your roll, Slak. (http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/11/25/jeff-samardzija-rumors-steep-price-rapid-resolution-orioles-involvement-more/comment-page-1/#comment-460667)

Quote from: ColoCubFanJust remember, rarely do the deals heard about ahead of time come to fruition.

It's the ones you don't hear about that happen.

Just remember, the "prospects" they get probably won't be the prospects you think they'll get. And the prospects they get probably won't pan out until they're dead anyways.

QuoteFormer Cub Mark DeRosa believes the team would be wise to hold on to Jeff Samardzija.

The current MLB Network analyst joined Comcast SportsNet to discuss the starting pitcher's future and the overall landscape of the MLB winter meetings.

With numerous rumors going around regarding the Cubs possibly trading Samardzija before the start of next season, Luke Stuckmeyer asked DeRosa if the Cubs should keep Samardzija. 

"Absolutely I do, I think he's what you build your team around," DeRosa said. "I watched him play football and then when he signed with the Cubs, I remember first meeting him at the Cubs convention when he got called up. His presence in the clubhouse and his presence amongst guys who were much older than him, he fit right in. This guy is a killer. I love everything about him and I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Cubs will let him walk away unless they are just totally blown away [with a trade proposal]."

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 17, 2013, 12:42:14 PM
Fetch your pankfork, Bortles (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/mark-derosa-cubs-should-keep-samardzija):

QuoteFormer Cub Mark DeRosa believes the team would be wise to hold on to Jeff Samardzija.

The current MLB Network analyst joined Comcast SportsNet to discuss the starting pitcher's future and the overall landscape of the MLB winter meetings.

With numerous rumors going around regarding the Cubs possibly trading Samardzija before the start of next season, Luke Stuckmeyer asked DeRosa if the Cubs should keep Samardzija. 

"Absolutely I do, I think he's what you build your team around," DeRosa said. "I watched him play football and then when he signed with the Cubs, I remember first meeting him at the Cubs convention when he got called up. His presence in the clubhouse and his presence amongst guys who were much older than him, he fit right in. This guy is a killer. I love everything about him and I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Cubs will let him walk away unless they are just totally blown away [with a trade proposal]."

Quote from: Fork on December 17, 2013, 12:47:50 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 17, 2013, 12:42:14 PM
Fetch your pankfork, Bortles (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/mark-derosa-cubs-should-keep-samardzija):

QuoteFormer Cub Mark DeRosa believes the team would be wise to hold on to Jeff Samardzija.

The current MLB Network analyst joined Comcast SportsNet to discuss the starting pitcher's future and the overall landscape of the MLB winter meetings.

With numerous rumors going around regarding the Cubs possibly trading Samardzija before the start of next season, Luke Stuckmeyer asked DeRosa if the Cubs should keep Samardzija. 

"Absolutely I do, I think he's what you build your team around," DeRosa said. "I watched him play football and then when he signed with the Cubs, I remember first meeting him at the Cubs convention when he got called up. His presence in the clubhouse and his presence amongst guys who were much older than him, he fit right in. This guy is a killer. I love everything about him and I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Cubs will let him walk away unless they are just totally blown away [with a trade proposal]."

DeRo doesn't care for meaningless things like "throws strikes" or "gets people out".

Quote from: Internet Apex on December 17, 2013, 01:15:01 PM

Quote from: Fork on December 17, 2013, 12:47:50 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 17, 2013, 12:42:14 PM
Fetch your pankfork, Bortles (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/mark-derosa-cubs-should-keep-samardzija):

QuoteFormer Cub Mark DeRosa believes the team would be wise to hold on to Jeff Samardzija.

The current MLB Network analyst joined Comcast SportsNet to discuss the starting pitcher's future and the overall landscape of the MLB winter meetings.

With numerous rumors going around regarding the Cubs possibly trading Samardzija before the start of next season, Luke Stuckmeyer asked DeRosa if the Cubs should keep Samardzija. 

"Absolutely I do, I think he's what you build your team around," DeRosa said. "I watched him play football and then when he signed with the Cubs, I remember first meeting him at the Cubs convention when he got called up. His presence in the clubhouse and his presence amongst guys who were much older than him, he fit right in. This guy is a killer. I love everything about him and I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Cubs will let him walk away unless they are just totally blown away [with a trade proposal]."

DeRo doesn't care for meaningless things like "throws strikes" or "gets people out".

They're obviously friends. I don't think any fan should expect to get an objective observation on anything from a guy who spent his career politicking and making bffs with reporters hither and yon.

Quote from: Internet Apex on December 17, 2013, 01:15:01 PM

Quote from: Fork on December 17, 2013, 12:47:50 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 17, 2013, 12:42:14 PM
Fetch your pankfork, Bortles (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/mark-derosa-cubs-should-keep-samardzija):

QuoteFormer Cub Mark DeRosa believes the team would be wise to hold on to Jeff Samardzija.

The current MLB Network analyst joined Comcast SportsNet to discuss the starting pitcher's future and the overall landscape of the MLB winter meetings.

With numerous rumors going around regarding the Cubs possibly trading Samardzija before the start of next season, Luke Stuckmeyer asked DeRosa if the Cubs should keep Samardzija. 

"Absolutely I do, I think he's what you build your team around," DeRosa said. "I watched him play football and then when he signed with the Cubs, I remember first meeting him at the Cubs convention when he got called up. His presence in the clubhouse and his presence amongst guys who were much older than him, he fit right in. This guy is a killer. I love everything about him and I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Cubs will let him walk away unless they are just totally blown away [with a trade proposal]."

DeRo doesn't care for meaningless things like "throws strikes" or "gets people out".

They're obviously friends. I don't think any fan should expect to get an objective observation on anything from a guy who spent his career politicking and making bffs with reporters hither and yon.

Quote from: BH on December 17, 2013, 01:26:37 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on December 17, 2013, 01:15:01 PM

Quote from: Fork on December 17, 2013, 12:47:50 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 17, 2013, 12:42:14 PM
Fetch your pankfork, Bortles (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/mark-derosa-cubs-should-keep-samardzija):

QuoteFormer Cub Mark DeRosa believes the team would be wise to hold on to Jeff Samardzija.

The current MLB Network analyst joined Comcast SportsNet to discuss the starting pitcher's future and the overall landscape of the MLB winter meetings.

With numerous rumors going around regarding the Cubs possibly trading Samardzija before the start of next season, Luke Stuckmeyer asked DeRosa if the Cubs should keep Samardzija. 

"Absolutely I do, I think he's what you build your team around," DeRosa said. "I watched him play football and then when he signed with the Cubs, I remember first meeting him at the Cubs convention when he got called up. His presence in the clubhouse and his presence amongst guys who were much older than him, he fit right in. This guy is a killer. I love everything about him and I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Cubs will let him walk away unless they are just totally blown away [with a trade proposal]."

DeRo doesn't care for meaningless things like "throws strikes" or "gets people out".

They're obviously friends. I don't think any fan should expect to get an objective observation on anything from a guy who spent his career politicking and making bffs with reporters hither and yon.

He watched him play football, if that's not an indication of future success in baseball, nothing is.

Quote from: BH on December 17, 2013, 01:26:37 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on December 17, 2013, 01:15:01 PM

Quote from: Fork on December 17, 2013, 12:47:50 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 17, 2013, 12:42:14 PM
Fetch your pankfork, Bortles (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/mark-derosa-cubs-should-keep-samardzija):

QuoteFormer Cub Mark DeRosa believes the team would be wise to hold on to Jeff Samardzija.

The current MLB Network analyst joined Comcast SportsNet to discuss the starting pitcher's future and the overall landscape of the MLB winter meetings.

With numerous rumors going around regarding the Cubs possibly trading Samardzija before the start of next season, Luke Stuckmeyer asked DeRosa if the Cubs should keep Samardzija. 

"Absolutely I do, I think he's what you build your team around," DeRosa said. "I watched him play football and then when he signed with the Cubs, I remember first meeting him at the Cubs convention when he got called up. His presence in the clubhouse and his presence amongst guys who were much older than him, he fit right in. This guy is a killer. I love everything about him and I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Cubs will let him walk away unless they are just totally blown away [with a trade proposal]."

DeRo doesn't care for meaningless things like "throws strikes" or "gets people out".

They're obviously friends. I don't think any fan should expect to get an objective observation on anything from a guy who spent his career politicking and making bffs with reporters hither and yon.

He watched him play football, if that's not an indication of future success in baseball, nothing is.

Quote from: Slaky on December 17, 2013, 02:24:06 PM
I wish I could more accurately tell the story I heard from my dad who knows a guy that went to one of Samardzija's apparently legendary house parties. Said guy went to use the john and walked in on our projected staff ace projecting his ace's staff into some lady. Mid-coital thrust he told the guy to go ahead and do his business.

What a friendly guy.

Quote from: CT III on December 17, 2013, 02:57:56 PM

Quote from: Slaky on December 17, 2013, 02:24:06 PM
I wish I could more accurately tell the story I heard from my dad who knows a guy that went to one of Samardzija's apparently legendary house parties. Said guy went to use the john and walked in on our projected staff ace projecting his ace's staff into some lady. Mid-coital thrust he told the guy to go ahead and do his business.

What a friendly guy.

I'm going to steal this line and my only regret is that it's got a somewhat limited use.

Quote from: Fork on December 17, 2013, 03:54:23 PM

Quote from: CT III on December 17, 2013, 02:57:56 PM

Quote from: Slaky on December 17, 2013, 02:24:06 PM
I wish I could more accurately tell the story I heard from my dad who knows a guy that went to one of Samardzija's apparently legendary house parties. Said guy went to use the john and walked in on our projected staff ace projecting his ace's staff into some lady. Mid-coital thrust he told the guy to go ahead and do his business.

What a friendly guy.

I'm going to steal this line and my only regret is that it's got a somewhat limited use.

He should write for a website.

Quote from: Slaky on December 17, 2013, 04:05:23 PM

Quote from: Fork on December 17, 2013, 03:54:23 PM

Quote from: CT III on December 17, 2013, 02:57:56 PM

Quote from: Slaky on December 17, 2013, 02:24:06 PM
I wish I could more accurately tell the story I heard from my dad who knows a guy that went to one of Samardzija's apparently legendary house parties. Said guy went to use the john and walked in on our projected staff ace projecting his ace's staff into some lady. Mid-coital thrust he told the guy to go ahead and do his business.

What a friendly guy.

I'm going to steal this line and my only regret is that it's got a somewhat limited use.

He should write for a website.

Maybe even be on a podcast. That'd be cool.

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 09:38:25 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Losing all the games to the Sox is fun. I'd be in a great mood.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:41:26 AM

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 09:38:25 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Losing all the games to the Sox is fun. I'd be in a great mood.

Expanded.

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 09:38:25 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Losing all the games to the Sox is fun. I'd be in a great mood.

Quote from: motown on May 08, 2014, 10:03:26 AM

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 09:38:25 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Losing all the games to the Sox is fun. I'd be in a great mood.

The quotes read pretty crabby and frustrated, but Samardzija didn't come off that way in the video, much less "telling the Cubs" something they didn't know as the headline implies. This is going to be a long two months until he's traded, isn't it?

Quote from: BH on May 08, 2014, 10:20:34 AM

Quote from: motown on May 08, 2014, 10:03:26 AM

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 09:38:25 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Losing all the games to the Sox is fun. I'd be in a great mood.

The quotes read pretty crabby and frustrated, but Samardzija didn't come off that way in the video, much less "telling the Cubs" something they didn't know as the headline implies. This is going to be a long two months until he's traded, isn't it?

He won't have any trade value after he goes on the DL, so he won't be traded. The cubs holding out trading him the past 2 seasons has to come back to screw them right? These are our kubbeez we are talking about.

Quote from: motown on May 08, 2014, 10:03:26 AM

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 09:38:25 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Losing all the games to the Sox is fun. I'd be in a great mood.

The quotes read pretty crabby and frustrated, but Samardzija didn't come off that way in the video, much less "telling the Cubs" something they didn't know as the headline implies. This is going to be a long two months until he's traded, isn't it?

QuoteJeff Samardzija set off some fireworks in a crosstown rivalry that had become way too boring. This seems to happen when the Cubs come to the South Side.

Standing in the visiting clubhouse where Lou Piniella once cursed out Milton Bradley in the tunnel, just off the dugout where Carlos Zambrano attacked Derrek Lee, Samardzija responded to the second-guessing after he threw a career-high 126 pitches in Monday night's loss to the White Sox.

QuoteSamardzija took aim at Theo Epstein's front office, exposing the behind-the-scenes tension as the Cubs prepare to eventually trade their Opening Day starter this summer.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2014, 11:07:08 AM

Quote from: motown on May 08, 2014, 10:03:26 AM

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 09:38:25 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 09:22:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Jeff is crabby (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/samardzija-defends-pitch-count-tells-cubs-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-grown-man%E2%80%99).

Quote"This is an on-field issue for uniform personnel," Samardzija said Wednesday at U.S. Cellular Field. "That's all there is to it. I'm a grown man. I'm 29. I'm not a prospect or 22. I feel good. I think I'm grown up enough and responsible enough to understand when I can go and when I can't go.

I hope his arm literally explodes on his first start after they trade him. I want a doctor to be picking shards of Snork's ulna out of his stupid frat boy face.

It's a pretty dumb comment from him. But he's obviously frustrated and it's hard to blame him for that.

Losing all the games to the Sox is fun. I'd be in a great mood.

The quotes read pretty crabby and frustrated, but Samardzija didn't come off that way in the video, much less "telling the Cubs" something they didn't know as the headline implies. This is going to be a long two months until he's traded, isn't it?

If he's crabby and frustrated at anyone, it seems to me that it's at the media for trying to dredge some drama out of this boring shit puddle of a season. They're the ones that grilled Renteria over pitch counts. They're the ones bringing Chris Sale into the discussion.

Gotta love Mooney's framing:

QuoteJeff Samardzija set off some fireworks in a crosstown rivalry that had become way too boring. This seems to happen when the Cubs come to the South Side.

Standing in the visiting clubhouse where Lou Piniella once cursed out Milton Bradley in the tunnel, just off the dugout where Carlos Zambrano attacked Derrek Lee, Samardzija responded to the second-guessing after he threw a career-high 126 pitches in Monday night's loss to the White Sox.

Because a coach confronting a player or two teammates fighting each other are basically the same thing as a pitcher defending his coaches' decisions to the press after a game.

QuoteSamardzija took aim at Theo Epstein's front office, exposing the behind-the-scenes tension as the Cubs prepare to eventually trade their Opening Day starter this summer.

He didn't "take aim" at shit. He was asked a direct question about "upper management" and basically brushed it off, more or less telling the reporters to just let it go already.

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 11:09:50 AM
I'm wondering when Mooney turned heel.

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 11:09:50 AM
I'm wondering when Mooney turned heel.

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

THIS is the bridge too far in your handwringing and couch-fainting about the Cubs this season?

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 01:31:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

THIS is the bridge too far in your handwringing and couch-fainting about the Cubs this season?

All I said was I'll be bummed to see a good player leave the team.

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:53:15 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 01:31:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

THIS is the bridge too far in your handwringing and couch-fainting about the Cubs this season?

All I said was I'll be bummed to see a good player leave the team.

Let me have my hate. It's all I have left.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 01:31:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

THIS is the bridge too far in your handwringing and couch-fainting about the Cubs this season?

All I said was I'll be bummed to see a good player leave the team.

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2014, 02:36:33 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 01:31:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

THIS is the bridge too far in your handwringing and couch-fainting about the Cubs this season?

All I said was I'll be bummed to see a good player leave the team.

Good thing when Snork leaves you won't be bummed.

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:53:15 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 01:31:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

THIS is the bridge too far in your handwringing and couch-fainting about the Cubs this season?

All I said was I'll be bummed to see a good player leave the team.

Let me have my hate. It's all I have left.

I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

Quote from: CBStew on May 08, 2014, 02:54:49 PM

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:53:15 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 01:31:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

THIS is the bridge too far in your handwringing and couch-fainting about the Cubs this season?

All I said was I'll be bummed to see a good player leave the team.

Let me have my hate. It's all I have left.

I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

...any pitching needy team that passes on him is going to regret it.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 02:37:43 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2014, 02:36:33 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 01:31:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 08, 2014, 12:51:01 PM

Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Why can't you people just let me fucking hate Snork in peace?

I'm so entertained by your SnorkHate that losing it will be the only thing I'm bummed about when they offload the douchebag.

I'll be bummed about the Cubs losing a very good player but I'm weird like that.

THIS is the bridge too far in your handwringing and couch-fainting about the Cubs this season?

All I said was I'll be bummed to see a good player leave the team.

Good thing when Snork leaves you won't be bummed.

OK.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 02:37:33 PM

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

He'll certainly regress in ERA, but his advanced stats like FIP, xFIP are basically right where they have for the past 500 innings or so (which is really good).

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 04:01:35 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 02:37:33 PM

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

He'll certainly regress in ERA, but his advanced stats like FIP, xFIP are basically right where they have for the past 500 innings or so (which is really good).

They better move him before June 1 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=samarje01&year=Career&t=p#month::none).

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 02:37:33 PM

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

He'll certainly regress in ERA, but his advanced stats like FIP, xFIP are basically right where they have for the past 500 innings or so (which is really good).

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2014, 11:20:54 AM

Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2014, 11:09:50 AM
I'm wondering when Mooney turned heel.

When he realized that his job entails writing about this shitty, uninteresting team for seven months straight?

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 08, 2014, 05:10:49 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 02:37:33 PM

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

He'll certainly regress in ERA, but his advanced stats like FIP, xFIP are basically right where they have for the past 500 innings or so (which is really good).

I think he'll still be good when the Cubs are contending, so I want him to stay.

Put me on Team Snork.

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 08, 2014, 05:10:49 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 02:37:33 PM

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

He'll certainly regress in ERA, but his advanced stats like FIP, xFIP are basically right where they have for the past 500 innings or so (which is really good).

I think he'll still be good when the Cubs are contending, so I want him to stay.

Put me on Team Snork.

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 08, 2014, 05:10:49 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 02:37:33 PM

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

He'll certainly regress in ERA, but his advanced stats like FIP, xFIP are basically right where they have for the past 500 innings or so (which is really good).

I think he'll still be good when the Cubs are contending, so I want him to stay.

Put me on Team Snork.

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 08:33:16 AM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 08, 2014, 05:10:49 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2014, 02:37:33 PM

Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
I just hope they move him before the regression hits.

He'll certainly regress in ERA, but his advanced stats like FIP, xFIP are basically right where they have for the past 500 innings or so (which is really good).

I think he'll still be good when the Cubs are contending, so I want him to stay.

Put me on Team Snork.

Especially if there's any validity to the idea that his arm is fresher after his later start in baseball and being a reliever for a few years.

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 09:05:58 AM
What kind of contract would you sign him to though? The dude wants to get paid beyond his worth or else he'd be locked up until they contend. You guys are out of your fucking minds if you think they should give him what he's looking for.

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 09:32:27 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 09:05:58 AM
What kind of contract would you sign him to though? The dude wants to get paid beyond his worth or else he'd be locked up until they contend. You guys are out of your fucking minds if you think they should give him what he's looking for.

It's a good question. I've heard Homer Bailey's contract (6 years, $105 million) tossed around as a comp. I'd be fine with that range and I'm guessing the Cubs would be, too. Of course, Shark probably isn't fine with that contract, which is why he hasn't been extended yet.

I'd probably go a little higher than that, since good pitching is extremely expensive and will probably only get more expensive.

I also think Theo/Jed are playing both sides here -- they don't want to pay Shark like a true No. 1 starter, but they're asking for No. 1 prices in trade talks. I can't really blame them for hoping one of those sides caves in their favor. Hopefully one does.

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 09:36:05 AM
So you're not out of your mind then. That's good.

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 09:47:34 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 09:36:05 AM
So you're not out of your mind then. That's good.

It's tough though, because if the Cubs don't extend him, where is the pitching coming from in the next 2-3 years? There's not much at the higher levels. Are you more comfortable signing Justin Masterson to a 6/$120m contract than Samardzija this winter?

I guess there's a chance they could cobble together a good rotation from Feldman/Hammel type signings. I guess Travis Wood will be here for a few more years. But they're still missing those top-of-the-rotation talents. Then again, maybe Kyle Hendricks really is Roy Halladay. That would help.

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 09:47:34 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 09:36:05 AM
So you're not out of your mind then. That's good.

It's tough though, because if the Cubs don't extend him, where is the pitching coming from in the next 2-3 years? There's not much at the higher levels. Are you more comfortable signing Justin Masterson to a 6/$120m contract than Samardzija this winter?

I guess there's a chance they could cobble together a good rotation from Feldman/Hammel type signings. I guess Travis Wood will be here for a few more years. But they're still missing those top-of-the-rotation talents. Then again, maybe Kyle Hendricks really is Roy Halladay. That would help.

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 10:06:25 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 09:47:34 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 09:36:05 AM
So you're not out of your mind then. That's good.

It's tough though, because if the Cubs don't extend him, where is the pitching coming from in the next 2-3 years? There's not much at the higher levels. Are you more comfortable signing Justin Masterson to a 6/$120m contract than Samardzija this winter?

I guess there's a chance they could cobble together a good rotation from Feldman/Hammel type signings. I guess Travis Wood will be here for a few more years. But they're still missing those top-of-the-rotation talents. Then again, maybe Kyle Hendricks really is Roy Halladay. That would help.

The thing where all the arms are exploding is so scary, though. Pitch counts aren't working.

Quote from: PenFoe on May 09, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Since it seems like we've come to the part of this thread where we take a stance, I'm on the side of keeping Samardzija. 

This team has plenty of great prospects (even though most of them will fail and all of them will eventually die) but they don't have a single front-line pitcher.  Except this guy. 

Quote from: PenFoe on May 09, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Since it seems like we've come to the part of this thread where we take a stance, I'm on the side of keeping Samardzija. 

This team has plenty of great prospects (even though most of them will fail and all of them will eventually die) but they don't have a single front-line pitcher.  Except this guy. 

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 03:38:49 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on May 09, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Since it seems like we've come to the part of this thread where we take a stance, I'm on the side of keeping Samardzija. 

This team has plenty of great prospects (even though most of them will fail and all of them will eventually die) but they don't have a single front-line pitcher.  Except this guy. 

I guess the problem with keeping him is that he has to actually sign an offer and since he's made it quite clear he hates losing and can't really see himself sticking around to continue losing I guess it would have to be a hell of an offer along with a promise. I suppose anything he signs with the Cubs would NOT have a no-trade clause just in case they never get good.

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 04:05:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 03:38:49 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on May 09, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Since it seems like we've come to the part of this thread where we take a stance, I'm on the side of keeping Samardzija.  

This team has plenty of great prospects (even though most of them will fail and all of them will eventually die) but they don't have a single front-line pitcher.  Except this guy.  

I guess the problem with keeping him is that he has to actually sign an offer and since he's made it quite clear he hates losing and can't really see himself sticking around to continue losing I guess it would have to be a hell of an offer along with a promise. I suppose anything he signs with the Cubs would NOT have a no-trade clause just in case they never get good.

I look at the haul they got for Garza and I imagine they could get something close to that. Bye, Snork.

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 04:09:38 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 04:05:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 03:38:49 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on May 09, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Since it seems like we've come to the part of this thread where we take a stance, I'm on the side of keeping Samardzija.  

This team has plenty of great prospects (even though most of them will fail and all of them will eventually die) but they don't have a single front-line pitcher.  Except this guy.  

I guess the problem with keeping him is that he has to actually sign an offer and since he's made it quite clear he hates losing and can't really see himself sticking around to continue losing I guess it would have to be a hell of an offer along with a promise. I suppose anything he signs with the Cubs would NOT have a no-trade clause just in case they never get good.

I look at the haul they got for Garza and I imagine they could get something close to that. Bye, Snork.

Maybe we should give it another year or two before we declare it a "haul."

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 04:18:11 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 04:09:38 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 04:05:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 03:38:49 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on May 09, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Since it seems like we've come to the part of this thread where we take a stance, I'm on the side of keeping Samardzija.  

This team has plenty of great prospects (even though most of them will fail and all of them will eventually die) but they don't have a single front-line pitcher.  Except this guy.  

I guess the problem with keeping him is that he has to actually sign an offer and since he's made it quite clear he hates losing and can't really see himself sticking around to continue losing I guess it would have to be a hell of an offer along with a promise. I suppose anything he signs with the Cubs would NOT have a no-trade clause just in case they never get good.

I look at the haul they got for Garza and I imagine they could get something close to that. Bye, Snork.

Maybe we should give it another year or two before we declare it a "haul."

Not sure that's fair - if you can get that many players with that much upside as a team in the Cubs' position you take it. Assuming a similar return for Garza, you can't also assume that all the players will turn out to suck or just flatline.

If Jepstink got an offer similar to the number and caliber of players get got for Garza I hope he'd take it. I don't think other execs think Shark is as good as Garza. So who knows.

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 04:22:16 PM

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 04:18:11 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 04:09:38 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 04:05:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 03:38:49 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on May 09, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Since it seems like we've come to the part of this thread where we take a stance, I'm on the side of keeping Samardzija.  

This team has plenty of great prospects (even though most of them will fail and all of them will eventually die) but they don't have a single front-line pitcher.  Except this guy.  

I guess the problem with keeping him is that he has to actually sign an offer and since he's made it quite clear he hates losing and can't really see himself sticking around to continue losing I guess it would have to be a hell of an offer along with a promise. I suppose anything he signs with the Cubs would NOT have a no-trade clause just in case they never get good.

I look at the haul they got for Garza and I imagine they could get something close to that. Bye, Snork.

Maybe we should give it another year or two before we declare it a "haul."

Not sure that's fair - if you can get that many players with that much upside as a team in the Cubs' position you take it. Assuming a similar return for Garza, you can't also assume that all the players will turn out to suck or just flatline.

If Jepstink got an offer similar to the number and caliber of players get got for Garza I hope he'd take it. I don't think other execs think Shark is as good as Garza. So who knows.

I think Shark is pretty comparable to Garza. He also doesn't have Garza's injury history and has an extra year of team control. At this point, they should be able to do better than the return for two months of Garza.

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 04:22:16 PM

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 04:18:11 PM

Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2014, 04:09:38 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2014, 04:05:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2014, 03:38:49 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on May 09, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Since it seems like we've come to the part of this thread where we take a stance, I'm on the side of keeping Samardzija.  

This team has plenty of great prospects (even though most of them will fail and all of them will eventually die) but they don't have a single front-line pitcher.  Except this guy.  

I guess the problem with keeping him is that he has to actually sign an offer and since he's made it quite clear he hates losing and can't really see himself sticking around to continue losing I guess it would have to be a hell of an offer along with a promise. I suppose anything he signs with the Cubs would NOT have a no-trade clause just in case they never get good.

I look at the haul they got for Garza and I imagine they could get something close to that. Bye, Snork.

Maybe we should give it another year or two before we declare it a "haul."

Not sure that's fair - if you can get that many players with that much upside as a team in the Cubs' position you take it. Assuming a similar return for Garza, you can't also assume that all the players will turn out to suck or just flatline.

If Jepstink got an offer similar to the number and caliber of players get got for Garza I hope he'd take it. I don't think other execs think Shark is as good as Garza. So who knows.

I think Shark is pretty comparable to Garza. He also doesn't have Garza's injury history and has an extra year of team control. At this point, they should be able to do better than the return for two months of Garza.

Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2014, 05:45:14 PMAt some point major league ready players will become at least as important as prospects.

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 11, 2014, 02:15:18 AM
At some point, this team won't have any major league talent, because Snork is going to murder them all in their sleep for failing to score a goddamn run for him.

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2014, 04:26:05 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 11, 2014, 02:15:18 AM
At some point, this team won't have any major league talent, because Snork is going to murder them all in their sleep for failing to score a goddamn run for him.

I seriously hope they never score another run for him ever again.

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 08:31:24 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2014, 04:26:05 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 11, 2014, 02:15:18 AM
At some point, this team won't have any major league talent, because Snork is going to murder them all in their sleep for failing to score a goddamn run for him.

I seriously hope they never score another run for him ever again.

Weird.

Quote from: Bort on May 13, 2014, 08:34:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 08:31:24 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2014, 04:26:05 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 11, 2014, 02:15:18 AM
At some point, this team won't have any major league talent, because Snork is going to murder them all in their sleep for failing to score a goddamn run for him.

I seriously hope they never score another run for him ever again.

Weird.

I think he means then Snork will kill all these chumps.

Quote from: Yeti on May 13, 2014, 08:39:03 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 13, 2014, 08:34:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 08:31:24 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2014, 04:26:05 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 11, 2014, 02:15:18 AM
At some point, this team won't have any major league talent, because Snork is going to murder them all in their sleep for failing to score a goddamn run for him.

I seriously hope they never score another run for him ever again.

Weird.

I think he means then Snork will kill all these chumps.

Or, that in a lost season, it would be "fun" to watch Snork go 0-25 with a 2.00 ERA

Quote from: Yeti on May 13, 2014, 08:39:03 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 13, 2014, 08:34:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 08:31:24 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2014, 04:26:05 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 11, 2014, 02:15:18 AM
At some point, this team won't have any major league talent, because Snork is going to murder them all in their sleep for failing to score a goddamn run for him.

I seriously hope they never score another run for him ever again.

Weird.

I think he means then Snork will kill all these chumps.

Or, that in a lost season, it would be "fun" to watch Snork go 0-25 with a 2.00 ERA

Quote from: Bort on May 13, 2014, 08:34:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 08:31:24 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2014, 04:26:05 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 11, 2014, 02:15:18 AM
At some point, this team won't have any major league talent, because Snork is going to murder them all in their sleep for failing to score a goddamn run for him.

I seriously hope they never score another run for him ever again.

Weird.

I think he means then Snork will kill all these chumps.

Quote from: Yeti on May 13, 2014, 08:39:03 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 13, 2014, 08:34:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 08:31:24 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2014, 04:26:05 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on May 11, 2014, 02:15:18 AM
At some point, this team won't have any major league talent, because Snork is going to murder them all in their sleep for failing to score a goddamn run for him.

I seriously hope they never score another run for him ever again.

Weird.

I think he means then Snork will kill all these chumps.

Or, that in a lost season, it would be "fun" to watch Snork go 0-25 with a 2.00 ERA

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 10:42:01 AM
Given the relatively low mileage on Samardzija's arm and his health to-date, should that be factored into his current value (whether it's for an extension or trade)? With basically every pitcher in the world getting hurt, there's got to be extra value in guys who project as healthier. I don't really know if it's possible to project health on pitchers, but I'm sure everyone is trying right now.

Then again, maybe he projects as less healthy because he throws so hard.

Quote from: PenFoe on May 13, 2014, 11:17:55 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 10:42:01 AM
Given the relatively low mileage on Samardzija's arm and his health to-date, should that be factored into his current value (whether it's for an extension or trade)? With basically every pitcher in the world getting hurt, there's got to be extra value in guys who project as healthier. I don't really know if it's possible to project health on pitchers, but I'm sure everyone is trying right now.

Then again, maybe he projects as less healthy because he throws so hard.

Mileage or not, I think anyone over 25 that hasn't had TJ yet feels a little safer.

Lock him up!

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 02:12:36 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on May 13, 2014, 11:17:55 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 10:42:01 AM
Given the relatively low mileage on Samardzija's arm and his health to-date, should that be factored into his current value (whether it's for an extension or trade)? With basically every pitcher in the world getting hurt, there's got to be extra value in guys who project as healthier. I don't really know if it's possible to project health on pitchers, but I'm sure everyone is trying right now.

Then again, maybe he projects as less healthy because he throws so hard.

Mileage or not, I think anyone over 25 that hasn't had TJ yet feels a little safer.

Lock him up!

I can't even figure out what pitching prospect I'd feel comfortable trading him for. Archie Bradley is the highest-ranked guy, but he's scuffling along in AAA with decreased velocity (never a good sign). Others who could make sense in a deal are either too far away (Lucas Giolito, Washington) or already have an injury history (Aaron Sanchez, Toronto).

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 02:12:36 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on May 13, 2014, 11:17:55 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 13, 2014, 10:42:01 AM
Given the relatively low mileage on Samardzija's arm and his health to-date, should that be factored into his current value (whether it's for an extension or trade)? With basically every pitcher in the world getting hurt, there's got to be extra value in guys who project as healthier. I don't really know if it's possible to project health on pitchers, but I'm sure everyone is trying right now.

Then again, maybe he projects as less healthy because he throws so hard.

Mileage or not, I think anyone over 25 that hasn't had TJ yet feels a little safer.

Lock him up!

I can't even figure out what pitching prospect I'd feel comfortable trading him for. Archie Bradley is the highest-ranked guy, but he's scuffling along in AAA with decreased velocity (never a good sign). Others who could make sense in a deal are either too far away (Lucas Giolito, Washington) or already have an injury history (Aaron Sanchez, Toronto).