He put together a team with the highest payroll in the NL ($144 million) and very little shot of finishing .500. Plus, the team is already on the hook for $103 million for just nine(!) players in 2011.
There is no way he can be given another chance, right?
Maybe Ricketts will combine the positions and add GM to our Al's boy Crane's responsibilities.
probably not but with the Beav running the show I expect Mark Grace to be named GM.
No it will be Sandberg as both GM and Manager.
Phil Nevin will be the ex-Cub most suitable for GM.
Piniella gets fired, Sandberg gets a lifetime contract before managing a single big-league game to replace him. Hendry gets fired. His position is swiftly filled by baseball savant and former Playgirl centerfold pin-up -- and former Cub!!! He GETS IT -- Steve Stone. You know it's gonna hai.
The writing is on the wall, right? I mean, Sandberg is most probably the next manager.
Quote from: Night Man on June 25, 2010, 09:08:47 AM
Piniella gets fired, Sandberg gets a lifetime contract before managing a single big-league game to replace him. Hendry gets fired. His position is swiftly filled by baseball savant and former Playgirl centerfold pin-up -- and former Cub!!! He GETS IT -- Steve Stone. You know it's gonna hai.
I read this wrong at first and thought it was going to be Marla Collins.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 25, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
The writing is on the wall, right? I mean, Sandberg is most probably the next manager.
Quick question: but what if Ryno looks at the Cubs, and decides there are better opportunities out there and cares not to be some sacrificial lamb a la Alan Trammel in 2003?
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
Because Ricketts doesn't know what he is doing. Three years of due diligence and 20 years as a fan and he didn't make a move yet.
It took Rocky Wirtz 46 days to hire John McDonough after Wirtz took over the Hawks.
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
Maybe they're ghey for soccer?
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
He's actually got tickets to the World Cup, but whereas killing (probably) endangered animals is badass, watching soccer is ghey. He's already got a lesbian sister, so they don't want to be seen as Too gay to own an 'Merican sports franchise.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
Because Ricketts doesn't know what he is doing. Three years of due diligence and 20 years as a fan and he didn't make a move yet.
It took Rocky Wirtz 46 days to hire John McDonough after Wirtz took over the Hawks.
On top of that Rocky wasn't even involved with Hawks until he took over. Basically he started from scratch, cleaned everything out and put his stamp on the franchise immediately. Who the fuck knows what Ricketts is doing or thinking.
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 25, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
Because Ricketts doesn't know what he is doing. Three years of due diligence and 20 years as a fan and he didn't make a move yet.
It took Rocky Wirtz 46 days to hire John McDonough after Wirtz took over the Hawks.
On top of that Rocky wasn't even involved with Hawks until he took over. Basically he started from scratch, cleaned everything out and put his stamp on the franchise immediately. Who the fuck knows what Ricketts is doing or thinking.
To be fair, Rocky had been around the organization since he was a kid and knew the people involved and had seen them work together. He probably had a bunch of "If I were in charge, I'd..." moments over the years.
Then again, one would think Ricketts has as well. And three years to think about it during due diligence is plenty of time.
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
His wanting to take his time to make any decision is a bit troublesome. Our team sucks. Our payroll is huge. Our team is ancient.
It's not a small hidden issue here. The results speak for themselves. If morph managed his client's money like Hendry manages our Kubbeez, he'd have been out on his ass years ago. This team is run like a fantasy camp.
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2010, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
He's actually got tickets to the World Cup, but whereas killing (probably) endangered animals is badass, watching soccer is ghey. He's already got a lesbian sister, so they don't want to be seen as Too gay to own an 'Merican sports franchise.
I'm waiting for the relevant part of your post.
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
40 something year-old billionaires with young kids in school.
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:27:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2010, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
He's actually got tickets to the World Cup, but whereas killing (probably) endangered animals is badass, watching soccer is ghey. He's already got a lesbian sister, so they don't want to be seen as Too gay to own an 'Merican sports franchise.
I'm waiting for the relevant part of your post.
Am I required to have one?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 25, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
Because Ricketts doesn't know what he is doing. Three years of due diligence and 20 years as a fan and he didn't make a move yet.
It took Rocky Wirtz 46 days to hire John McDonough after Wirtz took over the Hawks.
On top of that Rocky wasn't even involved with Hawks until he took over. Basically he started from scratch, cleaned everything out and put his stamp on the franchise immediately. Who the fuck knows what Ricketts is doing or thinking.
To be fair, Rocky had been around the organization since he was a kid and knew the people involved and had seen them work together. He probably had a bunch of "If I were in charge, I'd..." moments over the years.
Then again, one would think Ricketts has as well. And three years to think about it during due diligence is plenty of time.
Unfortunately, I think Ricketts has probably been more of a meatball "I love everything Cubs" type of fan during the three years as opposed to someone doing any real thinking about this team. It's also probably why we'll see Sandberg as manager next year.
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 25, 2010, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 25, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
Because Ricketts doesn't know what he is doing. Three years of due diligence and 20 years as a fan and he didn't make a move yet.
It took Rocky Wirtz 46 days to hire John McDonough after Wirtz took over the Hawks.
On top of that Rocky wasn't even involved with Hawks until he took over. Basically he started from scratch, cleaned everything out and put his stamp on the franchise immediately. Who the fuck knows what Ricketts is doing or thinking.
To be fair, Rocky had been around the organization since he was a kid and knew the people involved and had seen them work together. He probably had a bunch of "If I were in charge, I'd..." moments over the years.
Then again, one would think Ricketts has as well. And three years to think about it during due diligence is plenty of time.
Unfortunately, I think Ricketts has probably been more of a meatball "I love everything Cubs" type of fan during the three years as opposed to someone doing any real thinking about this team. It's also probably why we'll see Sandberg as manager next year.
Not sure if that's true. Taking a month long safari in the middle of your first year as owner while the team hits rock bottom doesn't strike me in the right light though, if you know what I mean. I hadn't really made a judgment on Ricketts because I thought it was too early to make one. Now I'm making one.
Get fucked, Tom.
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2010, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
He's actually got tickets to the World Cup, but whereas killing (probably) endangered animals is badass, watching soccer is ghey. He's already got a lesbian sister, so they don't want to be seen as Too gay to own an 'Merican sports franchise.
Most safaris don't actually involve killing anything in this, the gayest of eras.
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:43:02 AM
Not sure if that's true. Taking a month long safari in the middle of your first year as owner while the team hits rock bottom doesn't strike me in the right light though, if you know what I mean. I hadn't really made a judgment on Ricketts because I thought it was too early to make one. Now I'm making one.
Get fucked, Tom.
First of all, not all the Ricketts went. I think I heard the sister is here. They've presented themselves as all equal partners. Someone is here with their hand on the rudder (eve in the rudder is broken).
Second, the guy has kids. And a lot of money. Taking 2 weeks off a month before the trade deadline is fine. If hendry want to make a deal, you think Ricketts can't be reached?
Third, Al didn't like the "appearance" of the vacation.
I'm not saying you shouldn't make your opinion now, but doing so because he's taking pictures of tapirs and antelope isn't a good reason.
Quote from: BH on June 25, 2010, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
His wanting to take his time to make any decision is a bit troublesome. Our team sucks. Our payroll is huge. Our team is ancient.
It's not a small hidden issue here. The results speak for themselves. If morph managed his client's money like Hendry manages our Kubbeez, he'd have been out on his ass years ago. This team is run like a fantasy camp.
Let's look at the last group of owners, the Tribune Company. They bought the Cubs during the strike (in mid-June 1981) and hired Dallas Green in early October 1981. Jerome Holtzman reported that Green accepted the offer on Oct. 9 (and had decided that Lee Elia would manage the Cubs), which was the same day as his Phillies third game in the Division Series against Montreal. Green was officially announced a couple days after the Phils lost in five games.
In the time in between the Tribune announcing they were buying the Cubs and the Green hire, here were the player moves:
QuoteAugust 15, 1981
Traded Lynn McGlothen to the Chicago White Sox. Received a player to be named later. The Chicago White Sox sent Bob Molinaro (March 29, 1982) to the Chicago Cubs to complete the trade.
August 19, 1981
Traded players to be named later to the New York Yankees. Received Pat Tabler. The Chicago Cubs sent Bill Caudill (April 1, 1982) and Jay Howell (August 2, 1982) to the New York Yankees to complete the trade.
But... the sale wasn't approved by the other owners until August 1981 (the same day they voted on a split-season). It appears they were out hunting for a new GM in late August, and by then they had settled on Dallas Green.
Even the Tribune Company "got it."
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 25, 2010, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2010, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
He's actually got tickets to the World Cup, but whereas killing (probably) endangered animals is badass, watching soccer is ghey. He's already got a lesbian sister, so they don't want to be seen as Too gay to own an 'Merican sports franchise.
Most safaris don't actually involve killing anything in this, the gayest of eras.
But how will I get my precious Ivory?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:43:02 AM
Not sure if that's true. Taking a month long safari in the middle of your first year as owner while the team hits rock bottom doesn't strike me in the right light though, if you know what I mean. I hadn't really made a judgment on Ricketts because I thought it was too early to make one. Now I'm making one.
Get fucked, Tom.
First of all, not all the Ricketts went. I think I heard the sister is here. They've presented themselves as all equal partners. Someone is here with their hand on the rudder (eve in the rudder is broken).
Second, the guy has kids. And a lot of money. Taking 2 weeks off a month before the trade deadline is fine. If hendry want to make a deal, you think Ricketts can't be reached?
Third, Al didn't like the "appearance" of the vacation.
I'm not saying you shouldn't make your opinion now, but doing so because he's taking pictures of tapirs and antelope isn't a good reason.
Our ownership is more of a "college of coaches" type approach, Slaky. That always works. And HE HAS KIDS! GIVE THE GUY A BREAK!
I thought Slaky was making his opinion not on the vacation, but because Rickett's has done nothing?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:43:02 AM
Not sure if that's true. Taking a month long safari in the middle of your first year as owner while the team hits rock bottom doesn't strike me in the right light though, if you know what I mean. I hadn't really made a judgment on Ricketts because I thought it was too early to make one. Now I'm making one.
Get fucked, Tom.
First of all, not all the Ricketts went. I think I heard the sister is here. They've presented themselves as all equal partners. Someone is here with their hand on the rudder (eve in the rudder is broken).
Second, the guy has kids. And a lot of money. Taking 2 weeks off a month before the trade deadline is fine. If hendry want to make a deal, you think Ricketts can't be reached?
Third, Al didn't like the "appearance" of the vacation.
I'm not saying you shouldn't make your opinion now, but doing so because he's taking pictures of tapirs and antelope isn't a good reason.
Al probably enjoys taking a shit once a day. I enjoy that too. I am not Al.
It's not the vacation that's rubbed me the wrong way. He can take a vacation. The team is fucking terrible. That's really the driving factor behind my angst and so I'm lashing out against everything and anything.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:43:02 AM
Not sure if that's true. Taking a month long safari in the middle of your first year as owner while the team hits rock bottom doesn't strike me in the right light though, if you know what I mean. I hadn't really made a judgment on Ricketts because I thought it was too early to make one. Now I'm making one.
Get fucked, Tom.
First of all, not all the Ricketts went. I think I heard the sister is here. They've presented themselves as all equal partners. Someone is here with their hand on the rudder (eve in the rudder is broken).
Second, the guy has kids. And a lot of money. Taking 2 weeks off a month before the trade deadline is fine. If hendry want to make a deal, you think Ricketts can't be reached?
Third, Al didn't like the "appearance" of the vacation.
I'm not saying you shouldn't make your opinion now, but doing so because he's taking pictures of tapirs and antelope isn't a good reason.
I've agreed with Internet Chuck twice today and it's not even noon.
This is not a very auspicious start to my weekend.
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2010, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 25, 2010, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 25, 2010, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
He's actually got tickets to the World Cup, but whereas killing (probably) endangered animals is badass, watching soccer is ghey. He's already got a lesbian sister, so they don't want to be seen as Too gay to own an 'Merican sports franchise.
Most safaris don't actually involve killing anything in this, the gayest of eras.
But how will I get my precious Ivory?
Orphan teeth.
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:58:20 AM
Quote from: BH on June 25, 2010, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
His wanting to take his time to make any decision is a bit troublesome. Our team sucks. Our payroll is huge. Our team is ancient.
It's not a small hidden issue here. The results speak for themselves. If morph managed his client's money like Hendry manages our Kubbeez, he'd have been out on his ass years ago. This team is run like a fantasy camp.
Let's look at the last group of owners, the Tribune Company. They bought the Cubs during the strike (in mid-June 1981) and hired Dallas Green in early October 1981. Jerome Holtzman reported that Green accepted the offer on Oct. 9 (and had decided that Lee Elia would manage the Cubs), which was the same day as his Phillies third game in the Division Series against Montreal. Green was officially announced a couple days after the Phils lost in five games.
In the time in between the Tribune announcing they were buying the Cubs and the Green hire, here were the player moves:
QuoteAugust 15, 1981
Traded Lynn McGlothen to the Chicago White Sox. Received a player to be named later. The Chicago White Sox sent Bob Molinaro (March 29, 1982) to the Chicago Cubs to complete the trade.
August 19, 1981
Traded players to be named later to the New York Yankees. Received Pat Tabler. The Chicago Cubs sent Bill Caudill (April 1, 1982) and Jay Howell (August 2, 1982) to the New York Yankees to complete the trade.
But... the sale wasn't approved by the other owners until August 1981 (the same day they voted on a split-season). It appears they were out hunting for a new GM in late August, and by then they had settled on Dallas Green.
Even the Tribune Company "got it."
So basically, Tombo is off to a worse start than the Tribune Co.
I hate this team.
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I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
His wanting to take his time to make any decision is a bit troublesome. Our team sucks. Our payroll is huge. Our team is ancient.
It's not a small hidden issue here. The results speak for themselves. If morph managed his client's money like Hendry manages our Kubbeez, he'd have been out on his ass years ago. This team is run like a fantasy camp.
Let's look at the last group of owners, the Tribune Company. They bought the Cubs during the strike (in mid-June 1981) and hired Dallas Green in early October 1981. Jerome Holtzman reported that Green accepted the offer on Oct. 9 (and had decided that Lee Elia would manage the Cubs), which was the same day as his Phillies third game in the Division Series against Montreal. Green was officially announced a couple days after the Phils lost in five games.
In the time in between the Tribune announcing they were buying the Cubs and the Green hire, here were the player moves:
QuoteAugust 15, 1981
Traded Lynn McGlothen to the Chicago White Sox. Received a player to be named later. The Chicago White Sox sent Bob Molinaro (March 29, 1982) to the Chicago Cubs to complete the trade.
August 19, 1981
Traded players to be named later to the New York Yankees. Received Pat Tabler. The Chicago Cubs sent Bill Caudill (April 1, 1982) and Jay Howell (August 2, 1982) to the New York Yankees to complete the trade.
But... the sale wasn't approved by the other owners until August 1981 (the same day they voted on a split-season). It appears they were out hunting for a new GM in late August, and by then they had settled on Dallas Green.
Even the Tribune Company "got it."
So basically, Tombo is off to a worse start than the Tribune Co.
I hate this team.
Que a Houston Astros late season comeback allusion.
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I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
His wanting to take his time to make any decision is a bit troublesome. Our team sucks. Our payroll is huge. Our team is ancient.
It's not a small hidden issue here. The results speak for themselves. If morph managed his client's money like Hendry manages our Kubbeez, he'd have been out on his ass years ago. This team is run like a fantasy camp.
Let's look at the last group of owners, the Tribune Company. They bought the Cubs during the strike (in mid-June 1981) and hired Dallas Green in early October 1981. Jerome Holtzman reported that Green accepted the offer on Oct. 9 (and had decided that Lee Elia would manage the Cubs), which was the same day as his Phillies third game in the Division Series against Montreal. Green was officially announced a couple days after the Phils lost in five games.
In the time in between the Tribune announcing they were buying the Cubs and the Green hire, here were the player moves:
QuoteAugust 15, 1981
Traded Lynn McGlothen to the Chicago White Sox. Received a player to be named later. The Chicago White Sox sent Bob Molinaro (March 29, 1982) to the Chicago Cubs to complete the trade.
August 19, 1981
Traded players to be named later to the New York Yankees. Received Pat Tabler. The Chicago Cubs sent Bill Caudill (April 1, 1982) and Jay Howell (August 2, 1982) to the New York Yankees to complete the trade.
But... the sale wasn't approved by the other owners until August 1981 (the same day they voted on a split-season). It appears they were out hunting for a new GM in late August, and by then they had settled on Dallas Green.
Even the Tribune Company "got it."
So basically, Tombo is off to a worse start than the Tribune Co.
I hate this team.
Again, to be fair, the Trib didn't hire a new GM until the season was over.
I would have fired Hendry last winter. Then again, firing him wouldn't have cost me $7.5 million (if reports of Hendry's salary are correct).
If Hendry is here on November 1, I think it's open season.
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Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
His wanting to take his time to make any decision is a bit troublesome. Our team sucks. Our payroll is huge. Our team is ancient.
It's not a small hidden issue here. The results speak for themselves. If morph managed his client's money like Hendry manages our Kubbeez, he'd have been out on his ass years ago. This team is run like a fantasy camp.
Let's look at the last group of owners, the Tribune Company. They bought the Cubs during the strike (in mid-June 1981) and hired Dallas Green in early October 1981. Jerome Holtzman reported that Green accepted the offer on Oct. 9 (and had decided that Lee Elia would manage the Cubs), which was the same day as his Phillies third game in the Division Series against Montreal. Green was officially announced a couple days after the Phils lost in five games.
In the time in between the Tribune announcing they were buying the Cubs and the Green hire, here were the player moves:
QuoteAugust 15, 1981
Traded Lynn McGlothen to the Chicago White Sox. Received a player to be named later. The Chicago White Sox sent Bob Molinaro (March 29, 1982) to the Chicago Cubs to complete the trade.
August 19, 1981
Traded players to be named later to the New York Yankees. Received Pat Tabler. The Chicago Cubs sent Bill Caudill (April 1, 1982) and Jay Howell (August 2, 1982) to the New York Yankees to complete the trade.
But... the sale wasn't approved by the other owners until August 1981 (the same day they voted on a split-season). It appears they were out hunting for a new GM in late August, and by then they had settled on Dallas Green.
Even the Tribune Company "got it."
So basically, Tombo is off to a worse start than the Tribune Co.
I hate this team.
Again, to be fair, the Trib didn't hire a new GM until the season was over.
I would have fired Hendry last winter. Then again, firing him wouldn't have cost me $7.5 million (if reports of Hendry's salary are correct).
If Hendry is here on November 1, I think it's open season.
We had better hope that this team gets even worse then. If there any signs of life in the second half of the season Hendry may very well be here on Nov 1st and you'll have said open season.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 11:09:24 AM
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Quote from: Slaky on June 25, 2010, 09:54:09 AM
I think the original question was a serious one. And a good one.
Man, this whole organization is fucked. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the 12th inning of yesterday's crapfest. They won? Yay. Who gives a shit.
I hope the White Sox sweep them this weekend. Enjoy your BP Cup, scum.
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
I don't know what he's afraid of. But if he was serious about making the Cubs a winner and not just a fan destination he'd clean the front office out and spend money on the best baseball people that can be bought. That's what any of us would do, right?
As it stands, I'd say they're hoping to distract everyone from the baseball for awhile and hope the Cubs back into enough success to keep everyone happy.
Also, who the fuck goes to Africa in June? Goddamn it.
His wanting to take his time to make any decision is a bit troublesome. Our team sucks. Our payroll is huge. Our team is ancient.
It's not a small hidden issue here. The results speak for themselves. If morph managed his client's money like Hendry manages our Kubbeez, he'd have been out on his ass years ago. This team is run like a fantasy camp.
Let's look at the last group of owners, the Tribune Company. They bought the Cubs during the strike (in mid-June 1981) and hired Dallas Green in early October 1981. Jerome Holtzman reported that Green accepted the offer on Oct. 9 (and had decided that Lee Elia would manage the Cubs), which was the same day as his Phillies third game in the Division Series against Montreal. Green was officially announced a couple days after the Phils lost in five games.
In the time in between the Tribune announcing they were buying the Cubs and the Green hire, here were the player moves:
QuoteAugust 15, 1981
Traded Lynn McGlothen to the Chicago White Sox. Received a player to be named later. The Chicago White Sox sent Bob Molinaro (March 29, 1982) to the Chicago Cubs to complete the trade.
August 19, 1981
Traded players to be named later to the New York Yankees. Received Pat Tabler. The Chicago Cubs sent Bill Caudill (April 1, 1982) and Jay Howell (August 2, 1982) to the New York Yankees to complete the trade.
But... the sale wasn't approved by the other owners until August 1981 (the same day they voted on a split-season). It appears they were out hunting for a new GM in late August, and by then they had settled on Dallas Green.
Even the Tribune Company "got it."
So basically, Tombo is off to a worse start than the Tribune Co.
I hate this team.
Again, to be fair, the Trib didn't hire a new GM until the season was over.
I would have fired Hendry last winter. Then again, firing him wouldn't have cost me $7.5 million (if reports of Hendry's salary are correct).
If Hendry is here on November 1, I think it's open season.
Fair to whom? Ricketts closed in late October 2009 and had owner approval in September. The Tribune got owner's approval in early August, apparently told Franks to move some old players out and also told him to start cleaning out his office. Considering Green took the job before the NLDS was over and it was official two days after Philly was eliminated, I'm guessing the Tribune had their man within 30 days of getting owners' approval.
Ricketts should have set his front office the same day he took over.
It turns out he did.
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 11:21:40 AM
Fair to whom? Ricketts closed in late October 2009 and had owner approval in September. The Tribune got owner's approval in early August, apparently told Franks to move some old players out and also told him to start cleaning out his office. Considering Green took the job before the NLDS was over and it was official two days after Philly was eliminated, I'm guessing the Tribune had their man within 30 days of getting owners' approval.
Again, there was as much as $7.5 million on the table not to do that. And Ricketts signed off on the Hendry deal as part of the due diligence (Hendry was extended during the sale process. - all buyers consented).
Now, a smart buyer would have adjusted their offer price based upon hat contracts that had to be eaten. Given that Tom and the Sibling Ricketts business acumen is unknown, and the father built the family wealth, it's unknown how smart he is.
One big problem, regardless of who the GM is, is that the biggest of contracts the Cubs are saddled with is virtually untradeable. Even if Soriano is unloaded they're going to have to eat a shitload of money to do it. Not sure how much that helps.
Hendry should have been shitcanned after last season but I suspect Ricketts didn't want to eat that contract either - which doesn't bode well for the future.
Of course the real reason could be that Ricketts knows who he wants and that guy is a kick ass GM who won't be available until this winter. It's possible, right? Right? Please tell me it's possible.
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One big problem, regardless of who the GM is, is that the biggest of contracts the Cubs are saddled with is virtually untradeable. Even if Soriano is unloaded they're going to have to eat a shitload of money to do it. Not sure how much that helps.
Hendry should have been shitcanned after last season but I suspect Ricketts didn't want to eat that contract either - which doesn't bode well for the future.
Of course the real reason could be that Ricketts knows who he wants and that guy is a kick ass GM who won't be available until this winter. It's possible, right? Right? Please tell me it's possible.
I'm not crying about Soriano being here. Yeah, if he caught fire and could somehow be traded that'd be fine. But he's not the sole reason this team is in the shitter - not that I think you're saying he is.
I'm crying because like the original post said - the Cubs have the highest payroll in the NL and one of the worst performing teams for that money. It's sickening.
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If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
Because Ricketts doesn't know what he is doing. Three years of due diligence and 20 years as a fan and he didn't make a move yet.
It took Rocky Wirtz 46 days to hire John McDonough after Wirtz took over the Hawks.
On top of that Rocky wasn't even involved with Hawks until he took over. Basically he started from scratch, cleaned everything out and put his stamp on the franchise immediately. Who the fuck knows what Ricketts is doing or thinking.
To be fair, Rocky had been around the organization since he was a kid and knew the people involved and had seen them work together. He probably had a bunch of "If I were in charge, I'd..." moments over the years.
Then again, one would think Ricketts has as well. And three years to think about it during due diligence is plenty of time.
Peter Wirtz was the one who was more involved.
Rocky took a business that was in the ditch and got rid of everyone who steered it there.
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Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
If Ricketts is operating under the premise that he will axe Hendry at the end of the season, why wait? I know it would have put a crimp in his African safari, but why let a bad employee ruin the product any more?
Because Ricketts doesn't know what he is doing. Three years of due diligence and 20 years as a fan and he didn't make a move yet.
It took Rocky Wirtz 46 days to hire John McDonough after Wirtz took over the Hawks.
On top of that Rocky wasn't even involved with Hawks until he took over. Basically he started from scratch, cleaned everything out and put his stamp on the franchise immediately. Who the fuck knows what Ricketts is doing or thinking.
To be fair, Rocky had been around the organization since he was a kid and knew the people involved and had seen them work together. He probably had a bunch of "If I were in charge, I'd..." moments over the years.
Then again, one would think Ricketts has as well. And three years to think about it during due diligence is plenty of time.
Peter Wirtz was the one who was more involved.
Rocky took a business that was in the ditch and got rid of everyone who steered it there.
Yeah, the story always was that Rocky had almost nothing to do with the hockey team prior to his old man's death. He ran the liquor side of things, and had no interest in it until he got the bill to make up a $3MM shortfall in hockey operations.
Is it possible that the next GM is already in the front office? Ricketts hired Ari Kaplan about a month ago, and judging by Hendry's quotes about stats "not being able to tell us to pick up Carlos Silva," my guess is that he's not too happy with it. Coupled with Ricketts general reputation as being pro-statfag, it could be possible.
I think it's extremely early to start piling on the Ricketts. Dismissing them as evil rubes at this juncture smacks of meatballary. They're saddled with contracts that the previous ownership approved. And yelling for them to "DO SUMFING!@!!!" now like hire a new G.M. and Manager in the middle of a lost season is beneath some of you.
Who in fuck are they going to get to steer this ship the way it's put together? Punish Hendry for this shit NOW!!! If you fire him you still have to pay him, jagoff. What punishment? Send Lou back to Tampa to float around in his pool with a bottle of Jack? You're too cruel.
I'll wait to see how it plays out. I believe Hendry will be sacked and Lou will retire. We'll see what they do then. And if I don't like it, I'll grab a pitchfork and head down there with you. We'll break something. It'll be cathartic.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 25, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
I think it's extremely early to start piling on the Ricketts. Dismissing them as evil rubes at this juncture smacks of meatballary. They're saddled with contracts that the previous ownership approved. And yelling for them to "DO SUMFING!@!!!" now like hire a new G.M. and Manager in the middle of a lost season is beneath some of you.
Who in fuck are they going to get to steer this ship the way it's put together? Punish Hendry for this shit NOW!!! If you fire him you still have to pay him, jagoff. What punishment? Send Lou back to Tampa to float around in his pool with a bottle of Jack? You're too cruel.
I'll wait to see how it plays out. I believe Hendry will be sacked and Lou will retire. We'll see what they do then. And if I don't like it, I'll grab a pitchfork and head down there with you. We'll break something. It'll be cathartic.
There is a big reason to window-dress Hendry now. If he's incompetent at talent evaluation (he is) you can't allow him to trade anyone. Make him the director of pro scouting, but take the trade-and-contract negotiation keys away and he can stay.
But if you bring somebody else in to do those things he or she would have to understand they're in a trial role with the team and that everybody would be re-evaluated at season's end. I highly doubt that anybody with any real skill or ambition would want to sign up for that gig given what this team has. So castrate Hendry, as it appears they have. He didn't take on much salary in the offseason and it appears he can't now.
The moves he did make this offseason - signing Byrd and Milty/Silva were pretty decent. The Nady and Tracy signings were really annoying but no more so than Ramirez, Lee and Zambrano opting for early retirement and replacing themselves with convincing body doubles.
How can you guys say he's not doing anything? HE BROUGHT IN BUFFALO DOGS AND NACHO HELMETS!!! AND NOW THEY HAVE REAL MUSIC INSTEAD OF ORGAN MUSIC!!!
Until Ricketts proves he's not a bleacher-loving retard, fuck that chipmunk-looking cunt.
Quote from: fiveouts on June 25, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
Is it possible that the next GM is already in the front office? Ricketts hired Ari Kaplan about a month ago, and judging by Hendry's quotes about stats "not being able to tell us to pick up Carlos Silva," my guess is that he's not too happy with it. Coupled with Ricketts general reputation as being pro-statfag, it could be possible.
Here's what stats could tell us about Silva:
BABIP below .300 once in his career before this year. That was 2005, one of his good years. His BABIP this year is .269. Danger! Will Robinson! (Trade him if you can Jimbo).
Control has always been good, until last year which was an injury year.
Thus, you could use stats to make an argument that last year was an aberration caused by injuries and that he had a chance to be useful.
I think stats would have told you that the Hendry deal most similar to this, Karros and Grudz for Hundley was such a good deal that if a stats guy was the Dodgers' GM, you would have had the 2003 catching duo of Toddler and Gabor.
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on June 25, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
Is it possible that the next GM is already in the front office? Ricketts hired Ari Kaplan about a month ago, and judging by Hendry's quotes about stats "not being able to tell us to pick up Carlos Silva," my guess is that he's not too happy with it. Coupled with Ricketts general reputation as being pro-statfag, it could be possible.
Here's what stats could tell us about Silva:
BABIP below .300 once in his career before this year. That was 2005, one of his good years. His BABIP this year is .269. Danger! Will Robinson! (Trade him if you can Jimbo).
Control has always been good, until last year which was an injury year.
Thus, you could use stats to make an argument that last year was an aberration caused by injuries and that he had a chance to be useful.
I think stats would have told you that the Hendry deal most similar to this, Karros and Grudz for Hundley was such a good deal that if a stats guy was the Dodgers' GM, you would have had the 2003 catching duo of Toddler and Gabor.
Oh fuck, is Hendry still pretending like acquiring Silva was some kind of coup? I mean, everybody knew why that trade was made, including the players involved. For Hednry to pretend that he targeted Silva because he knew he'd have a miracle half-season is fucking insane.
Quote from: CT III on June 25, 2010, 04:02:35 PM
Oh fuck, is Hendry still pretending like acquiring Silva was some kind of coup? I mean, everybody knew why that trade was made, including the players involved. For Hednry to pretend that he targeted Silva because he knew he'd have a miracle half-season is fucking insane.
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Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on June 25, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
Is it possible that the next GM is already in the front office? Ricketts hired Ari Kaplan about a month ago, and judging by Hendry's quotes about stats "not being able to tell us to pick up Carlos Silva," my guess is that he's not too happy with it. Coupled with Ricketts general reputation as being pro-statfag, it could be possible.
Here's what stats could tell us about Silva:
BABIP below .300 once in his career before this year. That was 2005, one of his good years. His BABIP this year is .269. Danger! Will Robinson! (Trade him if you can Jimbo).
Control has always been good, until last year which was an injury year.
Thus, you could use stats to make an argument that last year was an aberration caused by injuries and that he had a chance to be useful.
I think stats would have told you that the Hendry deal most similar to this, Karros and Grudz for Hundley was such a good deal that if a stats guy was the Dodgers' GM, you would have had the 2003 catching duo of Toddler and Gabor.
Oh fuck, is Hendry still pretending like acquiring Silva was some kind of coup? I mean, everybody knew why that trade was made, including the players involved. For Hednry to pretend that he targeted Silva because he knew he'd have a miracle half-season is fucking insane.
You're fucking insane to think Jim didn't recognize how Silva's chemistry with the clubhouse and larry's tutelage would nurture him and set him up for success in Chicago. Stat THAT. Queer.
See, it wasn't Hendry's fault! Its never been Hendry's fault. It was...
Bartman
Neifi
Dusty
Soriano
Barrett
Milton
Lou
ZAMBRANO!
Quote from: fiveouts on June 25, 2010, 05:26:20 PM
See, it wasn't Hendry's fault! Its never been Hendry's fault. It was...
Bartman
Neifi ... picked up off waivers by Hendry
Dusty ... Hendry's first managerial hire
Soriano ... signed by Hendry
Barrett ... one of Hendry's great "finds"
Milton ... signed by Hendry to his longest-term contract ever
Lou ... Hendry's second managerial hire.
ZAMBRANO! ... extended by Hendry
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 25, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
I think it's extremely early to start piling on the Ricketts. Dismissing them as evil rubes at this juncture smacks of meatballary. They're saddled with contracts that the previous ownership approved. And yelling for them to "DO SUMFING!@!!!" now like hire a new G.M. and Manager in the middle of a lost season is beneath some of you.
Who in fuck are they going to get to steer this ship the way it's put together? Punish Hendry for this shit NOW!!! If you fire him you still have to pay him, jagoff. What punishment? Send Lou back to Tampa to float around in his pool with a bottle of Jack? You're too cruel.
I'll wait to see how it plays out. I believe Hendry will be sacked and Lou will retire. We'll see what they do then. And if I don't like it, I'll grab a pitchfork and head down there with you. We'll break something. It'll be cathartic.
I vacillate between THI (because that's what I said last winter)
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 25, 2010, 03:36:04 PM
How can you guys say he's not doing anything? HE BROUGHT IN BUFFALO DOGS AND NACHO HELMETS!!! AND NOW THEY HAVE REAL MUSIC INSTEAD OF ORGAN MUSIC!!!
Until Ricketts proves he's not a bleacher-loving retard, fuck that chipmunk-looking cunt.
and THA (because fuck this gutless slapdick organization) on those fortnightly occasions when I think about the Cubs. Normally in these types of situations I just go with the opposite of InternetChuck, but he's actually making sense in this thread. I'm torn, I tells ya, TORN!
It's a little early but I could go for a nacho helmet (||) right about now.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 28, 2010, 09:56:05 AM
It's a little early but I could go for a nacho helmet (||) right about now.
You'll never want nachos again.
I don't know where to put this, but I just thought everyone would like to read it.
"According to Tracy Ringolsby of FOXSports.com, Mark Prior will work out for major league teams at USC on Wednesday.
According to the report, "most major league teams" are expected to have a scout in attendance. Prior, now 29 years old, has not thrown a pitch in the major leagues since the 2006 season. We're not holding our breath now."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 29, 2010, 08:08:14 AM
I don't know where to put this, but I just thought everyone would like to read it.
If only a thread had been started about Mark Prior at some point in Desipio's history.
Quote from: Eli on June 29, 2010, 08:13:07 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 29, 2010, 08:08:14 AM
I don't know where to put this, but I just thought everyone would like to read it.
If only a thread had been started about Mark Prior at some point in Desipio's history.
My guess is that those died in the purge. REMEMBER 11/9/09!
Quote from: Eli on June 29, 2010, 08:13:07 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 29, 2010, 08:08:14 AM
I don't know where to put this, but I just thought everyone would like to read it.
If only a thread had been started about Mark Prior at some point in Desipio's history.
Sorry, Eli. I'm lazy. I thought to myself sure, there has to be a Mark Prior thread. I also thought searching "Mark Prior" would net me a zillion results. So, I searched "towel drills" and got two results. So, here you are. It's in this thread. Now, read it and like it.
I have mixed feelings on Josh Byrnes - he certainly made his share of completely retarded moves, but he's now available and at least one pundit (https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN) says someone should scoop him up.
Quote from: PenPho on July 01, 2010, 11:12:41 PM
I have mixed feelings on Josh Byrnes - he certainly made his share of completely retarded moves, but he's now available and at least one pundit (https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN) says someone should scoop him up.
Didn't Arizona start the season with no lefthanders in its bullpen? He may have been the only guy in the league with less of an idea how to build a relief staff than Hendry.
Yes, the mark of a good bullpen is always whether the ratio of righties to lefties is correct. Maybe you should be GM!
Quote from: Night Man on July 01, 2010, 11:28:55 PM
Yes, the mark of a good bullpen is always whether the ratio of righties to lefties is correct. Maybe you should be GM!
Aaron Heilman's closing for them, Lone Star.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 02, 2010, 07:25:49 AM
Quote from: Night Man on July 01, 2010, 11:28:55 PM
Yes, the mark of a good bullpen is always whether the ratio of righties to lefties is correct. Maybe you should be GM!
Aaron Heilman's closing for them, Lone Star.
This year's bullpen is Exhibit A in why Josh Byrnes got fired.
Eric Byrnes making $11 million this year to play softball is Exhibit B.
Quote from: PenPho on July 02, 2010, 12:28:34 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 02, 2010, 07:25:49 AM
Quote from: Night Man on July 01, 2010, 11:28:55 PM
Yes, the mark of a good bullpen is always whether the ratio of righties to lefties is correct. Maybe you should be GM!
Aaron Heilman's closing for them, Lone Star.
This year's bullpen is Exhibit A in why Josh Byrnes got fired.
Eric Byrnes making $11 million this year to play softball is Exhibit B.
That team went to shit after Odog left.
Quote from: PenPho on July 02, 2010, 12:28:34 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 02, 2010, 07:25:49 AM
Quote from: Night Man on July 01, 2010, 11:28:55 PM
Yes, the mark of a good bullpen is always whether the ratio of righties to lefties is correct. Maybe you should be GM!
Aaron Heilman's closing for them, Lone Star.
This year's bullpen is Exhibit A in why Josh Byrnes got fired.
Eric Byrnes making $11 million this year to play softball is Exhibit B.
Eric Byrnes completly fucks up the MLB Network telecasts.
So Josh Byrnes has pretty much fallen into their lap, if you assume Hendry is as good as gone. Too good to be true?
Quote from: Night Man on July 02, 2010, 04:07:59 PM
So Josh Byrnes has pretty much fallen into their lap, if you assume Hendry is as good as gone. Too good to be true?
Well, yes...if you think that Josh Byrnes might not be a good GM (see Exhibits A and B above), despite the fawnings.
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
It's Omar Infante. So no, you cannot.
Quote from: Slaky on July 04, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
It's Omar Infante. So no, you cannot.
Whenever you can put a guy with a .717 OPS in the game that decides home field for the World Series, you gotta make that move. Fuck the All Star game. High and hard
Quote from: Yeti on July 05, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 04, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
It's Omar Infante. So no, you cannot.
Whenever you can put a guy with a .717 OPS in the game that decides home field for the World Series, you gotta make that move. Fuck the All Star game. High and hard
This Time It (Still) Counts
Quote from: Yeti on July 05, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 04, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
It's Omar Infante. So no, you cannot.
Whenever you can put a guy with a .717 OPS in the game that decides home field for the World Series, you gotta make that move. Fuck the All Star game. High and hard
How is Joey Votto not an All Star?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 06, 2010, 07:43:34 AM
How is Joey Votto not an All Star?
Charlie Manuel didn't choose him.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 06, 2010, 07:43:34 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 05, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 04, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
It's Omar Infante. So no, you cannot.
Whenever you can put a guy with a .717 OPS in the game that decides home field for the World Series, you gotta make that move. Fuck the All Star game. High and hard
How is Joey Votto not an All Star?
As much as it shocks my conscience to write this, how is Fat Carlos not an All-star either?
Quote from: Eli on July 06, 2010, 08:59:52 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 06, 2010, 07:43:34 AM
How is Joey Votto not an All Star?
Charlie Manuel didn't choose him.
Thinking about the very idea that the winner of the All Star gets home field advantage in the WS for its league despite the fact that all teams must have representation and the manager of the hapless NL would rather have Omar Infante than Joey Votto makes me sad and angry at the same time. I'm glad there's no baseball this year.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 06, 2010, 09:21:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 06, 2010, 07:43:34 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 05, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 04, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
It's Omar Infante. So no, you cannot.
Whenever you can put a guy with a .717 OPS in the game that decides home field for the World Series, you gotta make that move. Fuck the All Star game. High and hard
How is Joey Votto not an All Star?
As much as it shocks my conscience to write this, how is Fat Carlos not an All-star either?
Kinda shocked me. I figured him and Byrd, and then maybe Marmot if they were feeling frisky. There are plenty of snubs. I enjoyed how they didn't even get the two best Cardinal pitchers on the team.
Quote from: Yeti on July 06, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
I enjoyed how they didn't even get the two best Cardinal pitchers on the team.
I didn't, because I want the NL to have the best chance to win. The Cubs could really use home-field advantage in the World Series this year.
Quote from: Yeti on July 06, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 06, 2010, 09:21:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 06, 2010, 07:43:34 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 05, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 04, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
It's Omar Infante. So no, you cannot.
Whenever you can put a guy with a .717 OPS in the game that decides home field for the World Series, you gotta make that move. Fuck the All Star game. High and hard
How is Joey Votto not an All Star?
As much as it shocks my conscience to write this, how is Fat Carlos not an All-star either?
Kinda shocked me. I figured him and Byrd, and then maybe Marmot if they were feeling frisky. There are plenty of snubs. I enjoyed how they didn't even get the two best Cardinal pitchers on the team.
Silva and Marmol deserve to go but this team doesn't deserve multiple reps.
Hell, they don't deserve any but at least one has to go. Byrd is as deserving as Silva or Marmol.
Quote from: Yeti on July 06, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
I enjoyed how they didn't even get the two best Cardinal pitchers on the team.
It's not realistic to expect any Cardinal pitcher to survive until the All-Star game.
Quote from: Fork on July 06, 2010, 10:02:20 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 06, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
I enjoyed how they didn't even get the two best Cardinal pitchers on the team.
It's not realistic to expect any Cardinal pitcher to survive until the All-Star game.
Bring back the Masked "F" Lady.
Quote from: CBStew on July 06, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 06, 2010, 10:02:20 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 06, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
I enjoyed how they didn't even get the two best Cardinal pitchers on the team.
It's not realistic to expect any Cardinal pitcher to survive until the All-Star game.
Bring back the Masked "F" Lady.
why do you hate Tonker so?
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 06, 2010, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 06, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 06, 2010, 09:21:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 06, 2010, 07:43:34 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 05, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 04, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Can I rage about the guy the cubs traded to get Jose Ascanio just made the all star game?
It's Omar Infante. So no, you cannot.
Whenever you can put a guy with a .717 OPS in the game that decides home field for the World Series, you gotta make that move. Fuck the All Star game. High and hard
How is Joey Votto not an All Star?
As much as it shocks my conscience to write this, how is Fat Carlos not an All-star either?
Kinda shocked me. I figured him and Byrd, and then maybe Marmot if they were feeling frisky. There are plenty of snubs. I enjoyed how they didn't even get the two best Cardinal pitchers on the team.
Silva and Marmol deserve to go but this team doesn't deserve multiple reps.
Hell, they don't deserve any but at least one has to go. Byrd is as deserving as Silva or Marmol.
It's good that the Brewers have one more win than the Cubs. It shows why they deserve to have three All-Stars.
QuoteOne of the best deals the Cubs made, Hendry said (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100709&content_id=12115588¬ebook_id=12121504&vkey=notebook_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc), was acquiring catcher Jason Kendall in 2007. Kendall may have been bumped that year in the playoffs by Geovany Soto, but his experience helped the team.
"I don't think we would've won the division if we didn't get him," Hendry said. "His numbers don't reflect that, but he brought something to the clubhouse for a month or two."
Quote from: Night Man on July 10, 2010, 02:57:18 PM
QuoteOne of the best deals the Cubs made, Hendry said (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100709&content_id=12115588¬ebook_id=12121504&vkey=notebook_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc), was acquiring catcher Jason Kendall in 2007. Kendall may have been bumped that year in the playoffs by Geovany Soto, but his experience helped the team.
"I don't think we would've won the division if we didn't get him," Hendry said. "His numbers don't reflect that, but he brought something to the clubhouse for a month or two."
Scabies. I'm going with scabies.
Quote from: ChuckD on July 10, 2010, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 10, 2010, 02:57:18 PM
QuoteOne of the best deals the Cubs made, Hendry said (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100709&content_id=12115588¬ebook_id=12121504&vkey=notebook_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc), was acquiring catcher Jason Kendall in 2007. Kendall may have been bumped that year in the playoffs by Geovany Soto, but his experience helped the team.
"I don't think we would've won the division if we didn't get him," Hendry said. "His numbers don't reflect that, but he brought something to the clubhouse for a month or two."
Scabies. I'm going with scabies.
I'm going with soylent green.
Quote from: Night Man on July 10, 2010, 02:57:18 PM
QuoteOne of the best deals the Cubs made, Hendry said (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100709&content_id=12115588¬ebook_id=12121504&vkey=notebook_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc), was acquiring catcher Jason Kendall in 2007. Kendall may have been bumped that year in the playoffs by Geovany Soto, but his experience helped the team.
"I don't think we would've won the division if we didn't get him," Hendry said. "His numbers don't reflect that, but he brought something to the clubhouse for a month or two."
Huh. Most teams get to the playoffs by acquiring players with unbelievable skills and undeniable statistics. Guess that's why most teams have won a World Series in the last hundred years...
Quote from: Night Man on July 10, 2010, 02:57:18 PM
QuoteOne of the best deals the Cubs made, Hendry said (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100709&content_id=12115588¬ebook_id=12121504&vkey=notebook_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc), was acquiring catcher Jason Kendall in 2007. Kendall may have been bumped that year in the playoffs by Geovany Soto, but his experience helped the team.
"I don't think we would've won the division if we didn't get him," Hendry said. "His numbers don't reflect that, but he brought something to the clubhouse for a month or two."
This is just dumb.
Quote from: MAD on July 10, 2010, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 10, 2010, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 10, 2010, 02:57:18 PM
QuoteOne of the best deals the Cubs made, Hendry said (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100709&content_id=12115588¬ebook_id=12121504&vkey=notebook_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc), was acquiring catcher Jason Kendall in 2007. Kendall may have been bumped that year in the playoffs by Geovany Soto, but his experience helped the team.
"I don't think we would've won the division if we didn't get him," Hendry said. "His numbers don't reflect that, but he brought something to the clubhouse for a month or two."
Scabies. I'm going with scabies.
I'm going with soylent green.
Jason Kendall brought Soylent Green to the clubhouse?
Because he was hungry or something?
Counterpoint (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/cubs-future-more-promising-than-present-070910)
Quote from: Night Man on July 10, 2010, 05:50:06 PM
Counterpoint (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/cubs-future-more-promising-than-present-070910)
Great. It only took the guy hired to be the director of the minor leagues 15 years to get the system churning out prospects.
By all means, keep him.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 10, 2010, 06:38:04 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 10, 2010, 05:50:06 PM
Counterpoint (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/cubs-future-more-promising-than-present-070910)
Great. It only took the guy hired to be the director of the minor leagues 15 years to get the system churning out prospects.
By all means, keep him.
Accurate take away as always...
QuoteRicketts has every right to choose his own GM, and this season is disappointing enough for him to justify a change. But whether Ricketts retains Hendry or hires someone else, the Cubs will be in pretty good shape. Not today, not tomorrow. But soon.
I happened to catch the Sun-Times this morning where Gordo Busfield wrote a similar article. When it came to Colvin, he mentioned his rookie-leading 12 home runs. Not bad, but his batting average is down to .263. I cringe to think what his OBP is--the Sun-Times insists on being a Luddite to their bitter final days and doesn't print it (though they do print SLG)--but I'm guessing it's not good. I'm glad he's doing well but I suspect his value may never be higher. Has a Rookie of the Year ever been traded after his rookie season?
Quote from: MAD on July 11, 2010, 01:05:03 PM
I happened to catch the Sun-Times this morning where Gordo Busfield wrote a similar article. When it came to Colvin, he mentioned his rookie-leading 12 home runs. Not bad, but his batting average is down to .263. I cringe to think what his OBP is--the Sun-Times insists on being a Luddite to their bitter final days and doesn't print it (though they do print SLG)--but I'm guessing it's not good. I'm glad he's doing well but I suspect his value may never be higher. Has a Rookie of the Year ever been traded after his rookie season?
His on base is .313. His OPS+ is 114. Nothing special, really.
Quote from: Slaky on July 11, 2010, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 11, 2010, 01:05:03 PM
I happened to catch the Sun-Times this morning where Gordo Busfield wrote a similar article. When it came to Colvin, he mentioned his rookie-leading 12 home runs. Not bad, but his batting average is down to .263. I cringe to think what his OBP is--the Sun-Times insists on being a Luddite to their bitter final days and doesn't print it (though they do print SLG)--but I'm guessing it's not good. I'm glad he's doing well but I suspect his value may never be higher. Has a Rookie of the Year ever been traded after his rookie season?
His on base is .313. His OPS+ is 114. Nothing special, really.
I think he's either a speedy Mark Reynolds or a young Jeff Francouer. I'll tell you which I think more after I've seen him play 100 times in person.
Ricketts keeps positive outlook for Cubs (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100711&content_id=12209788&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc)
QuoteLOS ANGELES -- Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts said Sunday he isn't pointing fingers at anyone for the team underachieving in the first half and was still having fun in his first season as owner.
"I'm not going to assign blame to anyone or anything," Ricketts said. "The fact is we came into the season, we had what appeared to be a pretty strong lineup. It hasn't worked out for whatever reason and it seems like the guys are putting it together now and let's just keep winning."
The Cubs have the top payroll in the National League but headed into the last game of the first half of the season on Sunday 9 1/2 games back in the Central. Ricketts, who arrived Sunday and planned on attending Tuesday's All-Star Game in Anaheim, said he "had the highest level of confidence" in general manager Jim Hendry.
"The fact is right now, Jim is our general manager, I support him, I think he does a great job, and after that we'll just take it one day at a time," Ricketts said.
This is the Ricketts family's first season as the Cubs owners, having completed the purchase last October. Last week, Ricketts met with season-ticket holders at Wrigley Field to get their feedback.
"We're doing what we think we can," Ricketts said. "We've tried to support every level throughout the organization. I've been out talking to folks to see if there's anything else we can be adding to the mix. In the end, you put the guys on the field and in the right chairs and you support them and hope they do the best. That's all we can do at the moment."
"Al made some great points; alcohol is Satan incarnate."
Ricketts is still having a lot of fun (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0712-cubs-dodgers-chicago--20100711,0,1355333.story). That's what it's about ya'll. No one is to blame for the team's performance this year.
Quote from: BH on July 12, 2010, 10:17:39 AM
Ricketts is still having a lot of fun (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0712-cubs-dodgers-chicago--20100711,0,1355333.story). That's what it's about ya'll. No one is to blame for the team's performance this year.
I'm going to choose to focus on the two words in this article that give positive.
Quote"The fact is right now Jim is our general manager," he said. "I support him. I think he does a great job, and we'll just take it one day at a time."
Rozner has more on the African vacation. (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=393240)
QuoteDespite reports that the entire family was off the continent, one Cubs board member, Laura Ricketts, never left Chicago, staying on top of team matters and making sure communication to Africa was open.
"We all knew what was happening (with Zambrano) pretty quickly, and I think (GM) Jim Hendry took the right steps," Ricketts said. "I have confidence in our management, and we let them do the jobs they were hired to do.
"We're all disappointed with what's occurred this year, but I would have been no more disappointed had I been at Wrigley Field than I was in Tanzania."
The trip was indeed a vacation but planned with the dual purpose of visiting schools in Africa that the family has supported through a charity organization they originated called Opportunity Education.
"I'm a little surprised the trip caught people's attention to such an extent," Ricketts said. "It was a family trip that's been on the books for a couple years, since before we bought the Cubs, and it's not easy to accommodate everyone's schedule and make something like this happen.
"The first thing we did was visit the schools. Opportunity Education is not a publicity-seeking organization looking for money because it's funded entirely by our family, so we don't talk about it a lot, but it's important to us."
More than 1,000 schools in the impoverished countries of Africa and Asia would barely operate educationally without the Ricketts' funding.
Quote from: R-V on July 12, 2010, 12:22:22 PM
Rozner has more on the African vacation. (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=393240)
QuoteDespite reports that the entire family was off the continent, one Cubs board member, Laura Ricketts, never left Chicago, staying on top of team matters and making sure communication to Africa was open.
"We all knew what was happening (with Zambrano) pretty quickly, and I think (GM) Jim Hendry took the right steps," Ricketts said. "I have confidence in our management, and we let them do the jobs they were hired to do.
"We're all disappointed with what's occurred this year, but I would have been no more disappointed had I been at Wrigley Field than I was in Tanzania."
The trip was indeed a vacation but planned with the dual purpose of visiting schools in Africa that the family has supported through a charity organization they originated called Opportunity Education.
"I'm a little surprised the trip caught people's attention to such an extent," Ricketts said. "It was a family trip that's been on the books for a couple years, since before we bought the Cubs, and it's not easy to accommodate everyone's schedule and make something like this happen.
"The first thing we did was visit the schools. Opportunity Education is not a publicity-seeking organization looking for money because it's funded entirely by our family, so we don't talk about it a lot, but it's important to us."
More than 1,000 schools in the impoverished countries of Africa and Asia would barely operate educationally without the Ricketts' funding.
Finding future Cubs who can play day games.
Quote from: MAD on July 11, 2010, 01:05:03 PM
I happened to catch the Sun-Times this morning where Gordo Busfield wrote a similar article. When it came to Colvin, he mentioned his rookie-leading 12 home runs. Not bad, but his batting average is down to .263. I cringe to think what his OBP is--the Sun-Times insists on being a Luddite to their bitter final days and doesn't print it (though they do print SLG)--but I'm guessing it's not good. I'm glad he's doing well but I suspect his value may never be higher. Has a Rookie of the Year ever been traded after his rookie season?
You think Heyward is available? That'd be awesome.
Quote from: Kermit IV on July 12, 2010, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 11, 2010, 01:05:03 PM
I happened to catch the Sun-Times this morning where Gordo Busfield wrote a similar article. When it came to Colvin, he mentioned his rookie-leading 12 home runs. Not bad, but his batting average is down to .263. I cringe to think what his OBP is--the Sun-Times insists on being a Luddite to their bitter final days and doesn't print it (though they do print SLG)--but I'm guessing it's not good. I'm glad he's doing well but I suspect his value may never be higher. Has a Rookie of the Year ever been traded after his rookie season?
You think Heyward is available? That'd be awesome.
Yea, basically THIS.. There's no way Colvin's ROY with Strasburg, Davis, and Heyward in the same league
Quote from: Kermit IV on July 12, 2010, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 11, 2010, 01:05:03 PM
I happened to catch the Sun-Times this morning where Gordo Busfield wrote a similar article. When it came to Colvin, he mentioned his rookie-leading 12 home runs. Not bad, but his batting average is down to .263. I cringe to think what his OBP is--the Sun-Times insists on being a Luddite to their bitter final days and doesn't print it (though they do print SLG)--but I'm guessing it's not good. I'm glad he's doing well but I suspect his value may never be higher. Has a Rookie of the Year ever been traded after his rookie season?
You think Heyward is available? That'd be awesome.
Fukudome and theriot for strasburg? Get it done Jimbo.
Not sure why the New York Daily News is trying to break this story (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2010/07/20/2010-07-20_lou_piniella_former_yankees_manager_and_player_will_retire_as_manager_of_cubs_at.html?r=sports%2Fbaseball%2Fyankees&utm_source=) that is a total non-story, but Sweet Uncle Lou, "is retiring as manager of the Chicago Cubs effective at the end of the season, the Daily News has learned."
It's official. Press conference coming up on Comcast and teh Score. What time? um... Shit.
EDIT: 4:15
Get ready.
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0820/chi_a_sandberg_400.jpg)
If Phil Rogers were a weather man, he'd be predicting a foot of snow tomorrow. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0721-rogers-cubs-lou-piniella-20100720,0,3059203.column)
Oh yeah. To answer the question... No
Quote from: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
Oh yeah. To answer the question... No
TWEET THAT.
Quote from: Bort on July 20, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
Oh yeah. To answer the question... No
TWEET THAT.
Ask and ye shall receive (https://twitter.com/SeanMcAuliff/status/19042374005)
Quote from: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 20, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
Oh yeah. To answer the question... No
TWEET THAT.
Ask and ye shall receive (https://twitter.com/SeanMcAuliff/status/19042374005)
Also here. (http://twitter.com/TtoEtoC/status/19042632800)
The last guy I did that to ended up in Switzerland. So watch yourself.
Quote from: Brownie on July 20, 2010, 09:20:37 PM
If Phil Rogers were a weather man, he'd be predicting a foot of snow tomorrow. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0721-rogers-cubs-lou-piniella-20100720,0,3059203.column)
I think Phil Rogers exists solely to torture reasonably intelligent baseball fans.
Amidst his slop about how Hendry should be able to rebuild what he has destroyed, he has this:
QuoteRicketts, it appears, is giving himself wiggle room in case he decides to — for example — welcome Ned Colletti back to his original organization, assuming neither McCourt claims him in their divorce. That wouldn't be a bad move, if Colletti did become available. But it's the wrong move.
Ned Colletti? That would suck.
Then again, even Phil knows that Crane Kenney should go.
Quote from: Eli on July 20, 2010, 09:40:19 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 20, 2010, 09:20:37 PM
If Phil Rogers were a weather man, he'd be predicting a foot of snow tomorrow. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0721-rogers-cubs-lou-piniella-20100720,0,3059203.column)
I think Phil Rogers exists solely to torture reasonably intelligent baseball fans.
Amidst his slop about how Hendry should be able to rebuild what he has destroyed, he has this:
QuoteRicketts, it appears, is giving himself wiggle room in case he decides to — for example — welcome Ned Colletti back to his original organization, assuming neither McCourt claims him in their divorce. That wouldn't be a bad move, if Colletti did become available. But it's the wrong move.
Ned Colletti? That would suck.
Then again, even Phil knows that Crane Kenney should go.
Phil was listening to The Score earlier.
Quote from: Eli on July 20, 2010, 09:40:19 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 20, 2010, 09:20:37 PM
If Phil Rogers were a weather man, he'd be predicting a foot of snow tomorrow. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0721-rogers-cubs-lou-piniella-20100720,0,3059203.column)
I think Phil Rogers exists solely to torture reasonably intelligent baseball fans.
Amidst his slop about how Hendry should be able to rebuild what he has destroyed, he has this:
QuoteRicketts, it appears, is giving himself wiggle room in case he decides to — for example — welcome Ned Colletti back to his original organization, assuming neither McCourt claims him in their divorce. That wouldn't be a bad move, if Colletti did become available. But it's the wrong move.
Ned Colletti? That would suck.
Then again, even Phil knows that Crane Kenney should go.
What Phil didn't say is that Ricketts wants to bring Ned back to be the PR guy again.
QuoteThat's, in part, the beauty of Jim Hendry.
That's a sentence that should never be written, ever.
DPD. Ted Lilly is a nice guy for trying to improve the prospects the Cubs will get back for him with his last few starts. Thanks Ted!
TPD. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)
QuoteSix teams or more are interested in Ted Lilly, who will almost certainly get traded. The Tigers, Mets and Dodgers have interest, but the Yankees probably won't be involved. The Cubs are not willing to pick up any of Lilly's salary and probably won't have to.
Quote from: Night Man on July 22, 2010, 03:39:43 PM
TPD. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)
QuoteSix teams or more are interested in Ted Lilly, who will almost certainly get traded. The Tigers, Mets and Dodgers have interest, but the Yankees probably won't be involved. The Cubs are not willing to pick up any of Lilly's salary and probably won't have to.
Good job Ted. We'll never forget ye.
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Quote from: Slaky on July 22, 2010, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 22, 2010, 03:39:43 PM
TPD. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)
QuoteSix teams or more are interested in Ted Lilly, who will almost certainly get traded. The Tigers, Mets and Dodgers have interest, but the Yankees probably won't be involved. The Cubs are not willing to pick up any of Lilly's salary and probably won't have to.
Good job Ted. We'll never forget ye.
Robots don't say "ye".
Quote from: CT III on July 27, 2010, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 22, 2010, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 22, 2010, 03:39:43 PM
TPD. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)
QuoteSix teams or more are interested in Ted Lilly, who will almost certainly get traded. The Tigers, Mets and Dodgers have interest, but the Yankees probably won't be involved. The Cubs are not willing to pick up any of Lilly's salary and probably won't have to.
Good job Ted. We'll never forget ye.
Robots don't say "ye".
I'll show ye...
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
You guys saw that awesome play he made at the second base bag last night, right? The one where he completely missed a ball thrown to him that wasn't far off target or didn't bounce to him. What a fuckwad.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 27, 2010, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
You guys saw that awesome play he made at the second base bag last night, right? The one where he completely missed a ball thrown to him that wasn't far off target or didn't bounce to him. What a fuckwad.
ALE ESS YOU!
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
Since I prefer to think of you as being a total douche, I'm just going to pretend this post never happened...
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
That's awesome. Are you guys gonna start hanging out soon? Maybe he can help you move. Who cares if he sucks at baseball when he's a super swell guy.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
If we were into that whole sincerity thing, then we could say it's not any certain player's fault for sucking. It's not like they purposely try to suck.... Buttttttttt..... That would take the fun out of hate.
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
If we were into that whole sincerity thing, then we could say it's not any certain player's fault for sucking. It's not like they purposely try to suck.... Buttttttttt..... That would take the fun out of hate.
I hate him even more for being nice.
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
If we were into that whole sincerity thing, then we could say it's not any certain player's fault for sucking. It's not like they purposely try to suck.... Buttttttttt..... That would take the fun out of hate.
I hate him even more for being nice.
Bort plays plays the desipio game the right way.
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
If we were into that whole sincerity thing, then we could say it's not any certain player's fault for sucking. It's not like they purposely try to suck.... Buttttttttt..... That would take the fun out of hate.
Yeah, but at least there would never be a conflict when it comes to hating Milton Bradley.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on July 27, 2010, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
If we were into that whole sincerity thing, then we could say it's not any certain player's fault for sucking. It's not like they purposely try to suck.... Buttttttttt..... That would take the fun out of hate.
I hate him even more for being nice.
Bort plays plays the desipio game the right way.
I feel like my ultra-douchey post has been glossed over. I demand recognition.
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2010, 02:57:43 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on July 27, 2010, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
If we were into that whole sincerity thing, then we could say it's not any certain player's fault for sucking. It's not like they purposely try to suck.... Buttttttttt..... That would take the fun out of hate.
I hate him even more for being nice.
Bort plays plays the desipio game the right way.
I feel like my ultra-douchey post has been glossed over. I demand recognition.
Don't worry, Paul. You're still a douche. I've noticed an inordinate amount of asspain flaring up whenever somebody says something nice about a Cub these days. Some of you guys just can't handle it that they're good now. Whatevs.
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2010, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
That's awesome. Are you guys gonna start hanging out soon? Maybe he can help you move. Who cares if he sucks at baseball when he's a super swell guy.
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2010, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
That's awesome. Are you guys gonna start hanging out soon? Maybe he can help you move. Who cares if he sucks at baseball when he's a super swell guy.
That's one helluva post.
Quote from: Eli on July 27, 2010, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2010, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
That's awesome. Are you guys gonna start hanging out soon? Maybe he can help you move. Who cares if he sucks at baseball when he's a super swell guy.
That's one helluva post.
THI
Anyone notice how Asshurt Apex gets when we don't slobber all over his beloved Cubs' collective knob?
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 03:26:20 PM
Anyone notice how Asshurt Apex gets when we don't slobber all over his beloved Cubs' collective knob?
I do and did.
Time for Theriot to start trying to pull everything now that he's a big slugger again.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 27, 2010, 03:27:57 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 03:26:20 PM
Anyone notice how Asshurt Apex gets when we don't slobber all over his beloved Cubs' collective knob?
I do and did.
I'm always asshurt about something and it has nothing to do with anything you may think or feel.
Quote from: morpheus on July 27, 2010, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 27, 2010, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2010, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
That's awesome. Are you guys gonna start hanging out soon? Maybe he can help you move. Who cares if he sucks at baseball when he's a super swell guy.
That's one helluva post.
THI
WOW!
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
Time for Theriot to start trying to pull everything now that he's a big slugger again.
Hello, .250 average and .675 OPS!
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:33:33 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
Time for Theriot to start trying to pull everything now that he's a big slugger again.
Hello, .250 average and .675 OPS!
REPLACEMENT LEVEL, HERE I COME!
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:33:33 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
Time for Theriot to start trying to pull everything now that he's a big slugger again.
Hello, .250 average and .675 OPS!
REPLACEMENT LEVEL, HERE I COME!
Actually, I just noticed his OPS was .648 as it stands. BWAHAHAHA. That nice bastard. If he had DA FIER, he'd be a good player.
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:33:33 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
Time for Theriot to start trying to pull everything now that he's a big slugger again.
Hello, .250 average and .675 OPS!
REPLACEMENT LEVEL, HERE I COME!
Actually, I just noticed his OPS was .648 as it stands. BWAHAHAHA. That nice bastard. If he had DA FIER, he'd be a good player.
I assume you meant to type "If he'd DIE IN A FIRE..."
Quote from: morpheus on July 27, 2010, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 27, 2010, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2010, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
QuoteThe Padres have been linked to infielders Ryan Theriot and Jeff Keppinger, as outfield targets such as David DeJesus, Corey Hart, and Jayson Werth drop out of the picture for various reasons.
PLEASETAKEHIMTAKEHIMNOW
Last night, I watched Theriot's postgame interview and remembered that he's been a pretty decent human being for the entire time he's been here, that he's been inexpensive and it never was his fault that Hendry wouldn't or couldn't find anybody to replace him until Starlin came up. And I felt kind of bad for trashing him so much lately. But I got over it.
That's awesome. Are you guys gonna start hanging out soon? Maybe he can help you move. Who cares if he sucks at baseball when he's a super swell guy.
That's one helluva post.
THI
I feel so much better. Thanks guys.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 27, 2010, 03:32:20 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 27, 2010, 03:27:57 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 03:26:20 PM
Anyone notice how Asshurt Apex gets when we don't slobber all over his beloved Cubs' collective knob?
I do and did.
I'm always asshurt about something and it has nothing to do with anything you may think or feel.
Huey can give you a referral to a good fistula doc.
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 03:49:26 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2010, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 27, 2010, 03:33:33 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 27, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
Time for Theriot to start trying to pull everything now that he's a big slugger again.
Hello, .250 average and .675 OPS!
REPLACEMENT LEVEL, HERE I COME!
Actually, I just noticed his OPS was .648 as it stands. BWAHAHAHA. That nice bastard. If he had DA FIER, he'd be a good player.
I assume you meant to type "If he'd DIE IN A FIRE..."
I thoroughly enjoyed this post.
SeanBearPig: Cub for life. (http://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/19932985189) Maybe.
Well, this has been a shit trade deadline for the Cubs. Nice choice Jim.
Does anybody think there is any chance the Cubs will let Derrek Lee go on a waiver claim, just to get out of a couple of months of salary?
Quote from: CT III on July 30, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
Well, this has been a shit trade deadline for the Cubs. Nice choice Jim.
Does anybody think there is any chance the Cubs will let Derrek Lee go on a waiver claim, just to get out of a couple of months of salary?
I don't think anyone will claim him.
What the Cubs should do is release him. Or, at the very least, bench him. He loves it here. He'll love it even more if he's on an 8 week vacation on the bench.
Batting him 3rd would be either insane or the result of a boss who didn't give a shit anymore.
Oh...
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 30, 2010, 09:57:36 PM
What the Cubs should do is release him. Or, at the very least, bench him.
I bet that would really endear the Cubs to future free agents.
Silva goes to the DL and moving Z to the rotation isn't an option? Fuck this team. Fuck them all. Hard, fast, dry, and bloody
Two hits? All we got is two goddamn hits?
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 02, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
Two hits? All we got is two goddamn hits?
There's a thread for that, son (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6801.0)
There's no thread for CHUCK IS DUMB, so it seems like this one is the best fit.
=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2353Jose Guillen is available (http://=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2353Jose%20Guillen%20is%20available)...A-Sor without a team.
Quote from: PenPho on August 05, 2010, 01:01:14 PM
There's no thread for CHUCK IS DUMB, so it seems like this one is the best fit.
Jose Guillen is available (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2353)...A-Sor without a team.
Fix'd
Quote from: Yeti on August 05, 2010, 01:07:04 PM
Quote from: PenPho on August 05, 2010, 01:01:14 PM
There's no thread for CHUCK IS DUMB, so it seems like this one is the best fit.
Jose Guillen is available (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2353)...A-Sor without a team.
Fix'd
QuoteThe team, in last place in the American League Central, just called up 26-year-old first baseman Kila Ka'aihue, 26, from Class AAA Omaha. Ka'aihue hit .319 with 24 homers and 78 RBI in 94 games with Omaha and could share first base and DH with Billy Butler in Guillen's absence.
How old is Kila? Anyway, SHIT, HURRY UP AND GIT R DUN JIM!!!!
Quote from: Night Man on August 05, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 05, 2010, 01:07:04 PM
Quote from: PenPho on August 05, 2010, 01:01:14 PM
There's no thread for CHUCK IS DUMB, so it seems like this one is the best fit.
Jose Guillen is available (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2353)...A-Sor without a team.
Fix'd
QuoteThe team, in last place in the American League Central, just called up 26-year-old first baseman Kila Ka'aihue, 26, from Class AAA Omaha. Ka'aihue hit .319 with 24 homers and 78 RBI in 94 games with Omaha and could share first base and DH with Billy Butler in Guillen's absence.
How old is Kila? Anyway, SHIT, HURRY UP AND GIT R DUN JIM!!!!
Hawaiian for "Jake Fox"
(I don't care if he's not Hawaiian. It looks Hawaiian to me, and that's all that matters)
Quote from: Yeti on August 05, 2010, 04:01:32 PM
(I don't care if he's not Hawaiian. It looks Hawaiian to me, and that's all that matters)
Even broken racist clock is sometimes right.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 05, 2010, 04:18:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 05, 2010, 04:01:32 PM
(I don't care if he's not Hawaiian. It looks Hawaiian to me, and that's all that matters)
Even broken racist clock is sometimes right.
You should write fortune cookies.
QuoteThough "some of the best prospects in the minors" are in the Royals organization, K.C. ace Zack Greinke expressed doubt that these youngsters will develop quickly enough to help the team while he is still wearing Royal blue. Greinke told Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star that "there's no reason for me to get real excited about it...because the chance of more than one of them making a major impact by the time my contract is up is pretty slim."
While Greinke stopped short of saying he wants out of Kansas City, he said that "it's been six years with me, and most people (who are Royals fans) have been through a lot more than I have. But for me, it's the third complete re-start/rebuilding phase....I like Kansas City....It's a town that fits me pretty well. But I don't know...at least put a team together that has a fighting chance (to win)."
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO JIM
Quote from: Night Man on August 06, 2010, 12:50:15 AM
QuoteThough "some of the best prospects in the minors" are in the Royals organization, K.C. ace Zack Greinke expressed doubt that these youngsters will develop quickly enough to help the team while he is still wearing Royal blue. Greinke told Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star that "there's no reason for me to get real excited about it...because the chance of more than one of them making a major impact by the time my contract is up is pretty slim."
While Greinke stopped short of saying he wants out of Kansas City, he said that "it's been six years with me, and most people (who are Royals fans) have been through a lot more than I have. But for me, it's the third complete re-start/rebuilding phase....I like Kansas City....It's a town that fits me pretty well. But I don't know...at least put a team together that has a fighting chance (to win)."
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO JIM
Get baby blue uniforms?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 06, 2010, 02:15:08 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 06, 2010, 12:50:15 AM
QuoteThough "some of the best prospects in the minors" are in the Royals organization, K.C. ace Zack Greinke expressed doubt that these youngsters will develop quickly enough to help the team while he is still wearing Royal blue. Greinke told Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star that "there's no reason for me to get real excited about it...because the chance of more than one of them making a major impact by the time my contract is up is pretty slim."
While Greinke stopped short of saying he wants out of Kansas City, he said that "it's been six years with me, and most people (who are Royals fans) have been through a lot more than I have. But for me, it's the third complete re-start/rebuilding phase....I like Kansas City....It's a town that fits me pretty well. But I don't know...at least put a team together that has a fighting chance (to win)."
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO JIM
Get baby blue uniforms?
Like this?
(http://i38.tinypic.com/fkz4ux.jpg)
Quote from: Night Man on August 06, 2010, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 06, 2010, 02:15:08 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 06, 2010, 12:50:15 AM
QuoteThough "some of the best prospects in the minors" are in the Royals organization, K.C. ace Zack Greinke expressed doubt that these youngsters will develop quickly enough to help the team while he is still wearing Royal blue. Greinke told Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star that "there's no reason for me to get real excited about it...because the chance of more than one of them making a major impact by the time my contract is up is pretty slim."
While Greinke stopped short of saying he wants out of Kansas City, he said that "it's been six years with me, and most people (who are Royals fans) have been through a lot more than I have. But for me, it's the third complete re-start/rebuilding phase....I like Kansas City....It's a town that fits me pretty well. But I don't know...at least put a team together that has a fighting chance (to win)."
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO JIM
Get baby blue uniforms?
Like this?
(http://i38.tinypic.com/fkz4ux.jpg)
Fuck yes.
God damn those were awesome!
Quote from: Night Man on August 06, 2010, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 06, 2010, 02:15:08 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 06, 2010, 12:50:15 AM
QuoteThough "some of the best prospects in the minors" are in the Royals organization, K.C. ace Zack Greinke expressed doubt that these youngsters will develop quickly enough to help the team while he is still wearing Royal blue. Greinke told Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star that "there's no reason for me to get real excited about it...because the chance of more than one of them making a major impact by the time my contract is up is pretty slim."
While Greinke stopped short of saying he wants out of Kansas City, he said that "it's been six years with me, and most people (who are Royals fans) have been through a lot more than I have. But for me, it's the third complete re-start/rebuilding phase....I like Kansas City....It's a town that fits me pretty well. But I don't know...at least put a team together that has a fighting chance (to win)."
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO JIM
Get baby blue uniforms?
Like this?
(http://i38.tinypic.com/fkz4ux.jpg)
Don't fuck with DeJesus.
Quote from: Night Man on August 06, 2010, 12:50:15 AM
QuoteThough "some of the best prospects in the minors" are in the Royals organization, K.C. ace Zack Greinke expressed doubt that these youngsters will develop quickly enough to help the team while he is still wearing Royal blue. Greinke told Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star that "there's no reason for me to get real excited about it...because the chance of more than one of them making a major impact by the time my contract is up is pretty slim."
While Greinke stopped short of saying he wants out of Kansas City, he said that "it's been six years with me, and most people (who are Royals fans) have been through a lot more than I have. But for me, it's the third complete re-start/rebuilding phase....I like Kansas City....It's a town that fits me pretty well. But I don't know...at least put a team together that has a fighting chance (to win)."
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO JIM
Stay away? Because the meatballs who boo him after one bad start will cause him to retire or committ suicide.
Jesus christ. (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10622213/theo-epstein-plans-rebuild-chicago-cubs-blueprint-boston-espn-magazine)
QuoteIt's a big change from the previous regime, whose old-school methods prompted the overhaul. When one of Epstein's hires told scouts they'd be using Microsoft Excel for scheduling, one asked, "Sorry, but what is Excel?" When McLeod took over player development, just eight of 24 area scouts had email linked to their smartphones. "Hendry is a great guy, but this was the Stone Age," says a player-development source no longer with the team. "A report would be, 'Plus-plus makeup -- I love this kid.' What does that even mean?" Scouts did not take video of players -- a basic and invaluable task with today's technology. The job of one executive under the computer-shy Hendry consisted of scanning the Internet for relevant stories and distributing printouts twice a day. "Theo finally told him to stop," the source says. "They let the guy go, which is sad, but nobody needs stuff that's three hours old when they have MLB Trade Rumors up on their computers and the app on their phone."
Quote from: R-V on March 27, 2014, 02:41:09 PM
Jesus christ. (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10622213/theo-epstein-plans-rebuild-chicago-cubs-blueprint-boston-espn-magazine)
QuoteIt's a big change from the previous regime, whose old-school methods prompted the overhaul. When one of Epstein's hires told scouts they'd be using Microsoft Excel for scheduling, one asked, "Sorry, but what is Excel?" When McLeod took over player development, just eight of 24 area scouts had email linked to their smartphones. "Hendry is a great guy, but this was the Stone Age," says a player-development source no longer with the team. "A report would be, 'Plus-plus makeup -- I love this kid.' What does that even mean?" Scouts did not take video of players -- a basic and invaluable task with today's technology. The job of one executive under the computer-shy Hendry consisted of scanning the Internet for relevant stories and distributing printouts twice a day. "Theo finally told him to stop," the source says. "They let the guy go, which is sad, but nobody needs stuff that's three hours old when they have MLB Trade Rumors up on their computers and the app on their phone."
Some of the comments after that article are the meatballiest thing since meatballs meatballed the meatball meatball.
Quote from: Tonker on March 27, 2014, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 27, 2014, 02:41:09 PM
Jesus christ. (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10622213/theo-epstein-plans-rebuild-chicago-cubs-blueprint-boston-espn-magazine)
QuoteIt's a big change from the previous regime, whose old-school methods prompted the overhaul. When one of Epstein's hires told scouts they'd be using Microsoft Excel for scheduling, one asked, "Sorry, but what is Excel?" When McLeod took over player development, just eight of 24 area scouts had email linked to their smartphones. "Hendry is a great guy, but this was the Stone Age," says a player-development source no longer with the team. "A report would be, 'Plus-plus makeup -- I love this kid.' What does that even mean?" Scouts did not take video of players -- a basic and invaluable task with today's technology. The job of one executive under the computer-shy Hendry consisted of scanning the Internet for relevant stories and distributing printouts twice a day. "Theo finally told him to stop," the source says. "They let the guy go, which is sad, but nobody needs stuff that's three hours old when they have MLB Trade Rumors up on their computers and the app on their phone."
Some of the comments after that article are the meatballiest thing since meatballs meatballed the meatball meatball.
Quote from: Pat Geraghty ★ Top Commenter · Risk Management & Investigations at Hilton Worldwide
I stopped at the headline.
Thanks for sharing, Pat.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 27, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: Tonker on March 27, 2014, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 27, 2014, 02:41:09 PM
Jesus christ. (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10622213/theo-epstein-plans-rebuild-chicago-cubs-blueprint-boston-espn-magazine)
QuoteIt's a big change from the previous regime, whose old-school methods prompted the overhaul. When one of Epstein's hires told scouts they'd be using Microsoft Excel for scheduling, one asked, "Sorry, but what is Excel?" When McLeod took over player development, just eight of 24 area scouts had email linked to their smartphones. "Hendry is a great guy, but this was the Stone Age," says a player-development source no longer with the team. "A report would be, 'Plus-plus makeup -- I love this kid.' What does that even mean?" Scouts did not take video of players -- a basic and invaluable task with today's technology. The job of one executive under the computer-shy Hendry consisted of scanning the Internet for relevant stories and distributing printouts twice a day. "Theo finally told him to stop," the source says. "They let the guy go, which is sad, but nobody needs stuff that's three hours old when they have MLB Trade Rumors up on their computers and the app on their phone."
Some of the comments after that article are the meatballiest thing since meatballs meatballed the meatball meatball.
Quote from: Pat Geraghty ★ Top Commenter · Risk Management & Investigations at Hilton Worldwide
I stopped at the headline.
Thanks for sharing, Pat.
Nice to see a guy working in Risk Management & Investigations is using his title on espn.com. I'm sure his audiitors will be thrilled.
Quote from: Fork on March 27, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 27, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: Tonker on March 27, 2014, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 27, 2014, 02:41:09 PM
Jesus christ. (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10622213/theo-epstein-plans-rebuild-chicago-cubs-blueprint-boston-espn-magazine)
QuoteIt's a big change from the previous regime, whose old-school methods prompted the overhaul. When one of Epstein's hires told scouts they'd be using Microsoft Excel for scheduling, one asked, "Sorry, but what is Excel?" When McLeod took over player development, just eight of 24 area scouts had email linked to their smartphones. "Hendry is a great guy, but this was the Stone Age," says a player-development source no longer with the team. "A report would be, 'Plus-plus makeup -- I love this kid.' What does that even mean?" Scouts did not take video of players -- a basic and invaluable task with today's technology. The job of one executive under the computer-shy Hendry consisted of scanning the Internet for relevant stories and distributing printouts twice a day. "Theo finally told him to stop," the source says. "They let the guy go, which is sad, but nobody needs stuff that's three hours old when they have MLB Trade Rumors up on their computers and the app on their phone."
Some of the comments after that article are the meatballiest thing since meatballs meatballed the meatball meatball.
Quote from: Pat Geraghty ★ Top Commenter · Risk Management & Investigations at Hilton Worldwide
I stopped at the headline.
Thanks for sharing, Pat.
Nice to see a guy working in Risk Management & Investigations is using his title on espn.com. I'm sure his audiitors will be thrilled.
I assumed that was a euphemism for "security guard".
Quote from: R-V on March 27, 2014, 02:41:09 PM
Jesus christ. (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10622213/theo-epstein-plans-rebuild-chicago-cubs-blueprint-boston-espn-magazine)
QuoteIt's a big change from the previous regime, whose old-school methods prompted the overhaul. When one of Epstein's hires told scouts they'd be using Microsoft Excel for scheduling, one asked, "Sorry, but what is Excel?" When McLeod took over player development, just eight of 24 area scouts had email linked to their smartphones. "Hendry is a great guy, but this was the Stone Age," says a player-development source no longer with the team. "A report would be, 'Plus-plus makeup -- I love this kid.' What does that even mean?" Scouts did not take video of players -- a basic and invaluable task with today's technology. The job of one executive under the computer-shy Hendry consisted of scanning the Internet for relevant stories and distributing printouts twice a day. "Theo finally told him to stop," the source says. "They let the guy go, which is sad, but nobody needs stuff that's three hours old when they have MLB Trade Rumors up on their computers and the app on their phone."
I can't believe it took Tom Ricketts only
two six years to decide to replace this guy.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 27, 2014, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 27, 2014, 10:09:04 PM
six years
Oh, for the holy fuck of fuck.
Don't be a dumb fuck. When you start due diligence on a nearly $1 billion acquisition, you do a strategic review. You do a technology review. You do an employee review. You do a cost of goods sold review. You do a cash flow review. You do a facilities review. You hire outside people if you have to to do the research. You review everything. That they didn't identify the lack of technology in place given 4 years pre-closing to review operations is mistake, a mistake that added at least two years to their rebuilding process. Maybe more because maybe some assets are traded earlier and some drafts aren't wasted.
Ricketts fucked up. This is clear from many, many sources. I'm confident Theo can correct it.
https://twitter.com/ivychat/status/449387279157428226
QuoteI lost any trust in Tom since seeing the Joe Ricketts vid about how Tom didn't graduate on time and didn't tell dad in advance
That video is like the Urtext of Internet Chuck Rickettsology (http://ivychat.blogspot.com/2010/11/friend-alerted-ivy-chat-to-speech-joe.html).
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 27, 2014, 11:01:25 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 27, 2014, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 27, 2014, 10:09:04 PM
six years
Oh, for the holy fuck of fuck.
Don't be a dumb fuck. When you start due diligence on a nearly $1 billion acquisition, you do a strategic review. You do a technology review. You do an employee review. You do a cost of goods sold review. You do a cash flow review. You do a facilities review. You hire outside people if you have to to do the research. You review everything. That they didn't identify the lack of technology in place given 4 years pre-closing to review operations is mistake, a mistake that added at least two years to their rebuilding process. Maybe more because maybe some assets are traded earlier and some drafts aren't wasted.
Ricketts fucked up. This is clear from many, many sources. I'm confident Theo can correct it.
I'm not comfortable with everything Chuck is saying here but I am not convinced that he's 100% wrong on this either. However, baseball wasn't Tom's business before he took over the Cubs, and it's not like he could fire Hendry before he got the keys. If the plan was to evaluate everybody after he took the reigns, you could argue that two years was too long to wait before launching Hendry. You could also argue that whoever was feeding Tom info about the situation pre-sale didn't have a clue what was actually going on.
My belief is that Ricketts and his gang were far more concerned with the business side of things and decided to put the baseball operations decisions on hold until they were secure in what their plan would be.
I also doubt Theo would have been available two years sooner. And if the same people who didn't know enough to fire Jim Hendry were making the decision to hire the next VP/GM they might have hired somebody who would need to be launched three years later. And then where would we be.
If you ask me the process worked/is working.
Final analysis: Chuck is 75% wrong.
It's hard to blame Tom Ricketts for not having the "right" (read: most forward thinking baseball people possible) people researching the Cubs and their entire front office operation because look at how many teams, not just in baseball, but in all leagues are still run by cavemen who still think it's the 1960s. Player development is still largely a size-and-feel thing. One guy has makeup and is toolsy let's get him.
Advanced stats are definitely making huge inroads in baseball but it's still very, very new and it's not as widely spread as we'd like to think.
Short of Ricketts hiring FanGraphs to find out what kind of Monkeys-Writing-Shakespeare operation Hendry was running, I'm not really sure what Chuck thinks was going to actually happen here.
I don't think Chuck is entirely wrong but I think he is living in a fucking fantasy land.
Shit, wouldn't it have been great if the Cubs Trib did this? And then sustained it?
Quote from: InternetApex on March 28, 2014, 07:12:40 AM
I'm not comfortable with everything Chuck is saying here but I am not convinced that he's 100% wrong on this either... Final analysis: Chuck is 75% wrong.
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
I don't think Chuck is entirely wrong but I think he is living in a fucking fantasy land.
Internet Chuck was never 100% wrong about Soriano either, was he? And that probably just made all the dumb things he chose to say that much more irritating.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 28, 2014, 08:37:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 28, 2014, 07:12:40 AM
I'm not comfortable with everything Chuck is saying here but I am not convinced that he's 100% wrong on this either... Final analysis: Chuck is 75% wrong.
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
I don't think Chuck is entirely wrong but I think he is living in a fucking fantasy land.
Internet Chuck was never 100% wrong about Soriano either, was he? And that probably just made all the dumb things he chose to say that much more irritating.
He was 100% wrong when he called him an "awful, awful" baseball player.
Quote from: Eli on March 28, 2014, 08:40:52 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 28, 2014, 08:37:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 28, 2014, 07:12:40 AM
I'm not comfortable with everything Chuck is saying here but I am not convinced that he's 100% wrong on this either... Final analysis: Chuck is 75% wrong.
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
I don't think Chuck is entirely wrong but I think he is living in a fucking fantasy land.
Internet Chuck was never 100% wrong about Soriano either, was he? And that probably just made all the dumb things he chose to say that much more irritating.
He was 100% wrong when he called him an "awful, awful" baseball player.
Yes, that is entirely incorrect. Especially, inexplicably near the end of his tenure.
Soriano's legacy for me will be mostly positive.
Besides, what would the Ricketts' "due diligence" had found if it were run differently? You have a team that won two straight division titles, including one year with the best record in the league. That happened under Jim Hendry. If they had a better baseball mind than Jim Hendry doind the DD, they would have made that person GM instead of keeping Hendry around.
Besides, since the Ricketts family had no experience in baseball ownership, they didn't have anyone in the inside. If they had, chances are pretty good that they would have heard what everyone always hears about Hendry, that he's a "good baseball man".
Finally, fuck it. It's all water under the bridge, and Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer run the team now. I'm sure even Chuck would agree that a smart business owner eeventually has a "Lessons Learned" session, and in this case they went out and hired the two best people available to rebuild not only the franchise, but instill a new organizational philosophy. If you still want to waste time bitching about Jim Hendry (who, let's not forget, did things like trade Bobby Hill for Aramiz Ramirez and Kenny Lofton, Todd Hundley for Eric Karros and Mark Grudzielanek, and Hee Seop Choi for Derrick Lee), then you might as well bring up Brock-for-Broglio while you're at it.
Quote from: Fork on March 28, 2014, 08:53:35 AM
Besides, what would the Ricketts' "due diligence" had found if it were run differently? You have a team that won two straight division titles, including one year with the best record in the league. That happened under Jim Hendry. If they had a better baseball mind than Jim Hendry doind the DD, they would have made that person GM instead of keeping Hendry around.
Besides, since the Ricketts family had no experience in baseball ownership, they didn't have anyone in the inside. If they had, chances are pretty good that they would have heard what everyone always hears about Hendry, that he's a "good baseball man".
Finally, fuck it. It's all water under the bridge, and Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer run the team now. I'm sure even Chuck would agree that a smart business owner eeventually has a "Lessons Learned" session, and in this case they went out and hired the two best people available to rebuild not only the franchise, but instill a new organizational philosophy. If you still want to waste time bitching about Jim Hendry (who, let's not forget, did things like trade Bobby Hill for Aramiz Ramirez and Kenny Lofton, Todd Hundley for Eric Karros and Mark Grudzielanek, and Hee Seop Choi for Derrick Lee), then you might as well bring up Brock-for-Broglio while you're at it.
Smart business men aren't dumbfucks. They don't learn lessons. They teach them. They obviously taught Chuck.
Quote from: Fork on March 28, 2014, 08:53:35 AM
Finally, fuck it. It's all water under the bridge, and Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer run the team now. I'm sure even Chuck would agree that a smart business owner eeventually has a "Lessons Learned" session, and in this case they went out and hired the two best people available to rebuild not only the franchise, but instill a new organizational philosophy. If you still want to waste time bitching about Jim Hendry (who, let's not forget, did things like trade Bobby Hill for Aramiz Ramirez and Kenny Lofton, Todd Hundley for Eric Karros and Mark Grudzielanek, and Hee Seop Choi for Derrick Lee), then you might as well bring up Brock-for-Broglio while you're at it.
Pretty much this. Also, hopefully we'll all still be thanking Hendry a decade from now for drafting perennial MVP Javier Baez.
Quote from: InternetApex on March 28, 2014, 07:12:40 AM
I also doubt Theo would have been available two years sooner. And if the same people who didn't know enough to fire Jim Hendry were making the decision to hire the next VP/GM they might have hired somebody who would need to be launched three years later. And then where would we be.
If you ask me the process worked/is working.
Final analysis: Chuck is 75% wrong.
Pretty much THIS and what Fork said above...
We don't really know who would have been available in 2009, and, in the end, the Cubs got the right guy. I know Chuck has that spreadsheet detailing why it should have been Friedman, but Tom got on the right track in the end.
Quote from: Yeti on March 28, 2014, 09:01:47 AM
Pretty much THIS and what Fork said above...
We don't really know who would have been available in 2009, and, in the end, the Cubs got the right guy. I know Chuck has that spreadsheet detailing why it should have been Friedman, but Tom got on the right track in the end.
Friedman AND Epstein, if I recall correctly.
Quote from: Fork on March 28, 2014, 08:53:35 AM
Besides, what would the Ricketts' "due diligence" had found if it were run differently? You have a team that won two straight division titles, including one year with the best record in the league. That happened under Jim Hendry. If they had a better baseball mind than Jim Hendry doind the DD, they would have made that person GM instead of keeping Hendry around.
Besides, since the Ricketts family had no experience in baseball ownership, they didn't have anyone in the inside. If they had, chances are pretty good that they would have heard what everyone always hears about Hendry, that he's a "good baseball man".
Finally, fuck it. It's all water under the bridge, and Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer run the team now. I'm sure even Chuck would agree that a smart business owner eeventually has a "Lessons Learned" session, and in this case they went out and hired the two best people available to rebuild not only the franchise, but instill a new organizational philosophy. If you still want to waste time bitching about Jim Hendry (who, let's not forget, did things like trade Bobby Hill for Aramiz Ramirez and Kenny Lofton, Todd Hundley for Eric Karros and Mark Grudzielanek, and Hee Seop Choi for Derrick Lee), then you might as well bring up Brock-for-Broglio while you're at it.
Meh. Don't get me wrong, those were fantastic trades, but I wouldn't give Hendry too much credit for any of them, really. For A-Ram and Lee, he was in a position to take on payroll, and had trade partners whose main objective was to ditch money rather than acquire prospects. I don't think by that stage, anybody really thought Hill, Bruback or Choi were ever going to amount to much. Getting in Grudz and Karros was just a case of getting Hundley out of the door and taking on someone else's problem to do it: if Hendry now claims he knew how successful those two guys were going to be for the Cubs, he's a fucking liar.
Having said that, if those trades had turned out different, you can bet your bottom fucking dollar that I'd be holding Hendry responsible for them. So, you know... I'm not sure what my point is.
Quote from: Fork on March 28, 2014, 08:53:35 AM
Besides, what would the Ricketts' "due diligence" had found if it were run differently? You have a team that won two straight division titles, including one year with the best record in the league. That happened under Jim Hendry.
THIS. When you're buying a business that you have no experience with, even the Big Swinginest Dick, My Way or the Highway New Owner probably would not immediately shitcan the guy that just put together two division titles. Now those titles were obviously not leading indicators of long-term success, but I'm not going to call Ricketts an idiot because it took him 18 months longer than a Savvy Owner would've needed to identify the organizational rot under the surface of the shiny division titles.
I can't wait for the Cubs to win a World Series and see Chuck's immediate complaint that it should've happened a year sooner, dammit!
Quote from: Tonker on March 28, 2014, 09:09:06 AM
Meh. Don't get me wrong, those were fantastic trades, but I wouldn't give Hendry too much credit for any of them, really. For A-Ram and Lee, he was in a position to take on payroll, and had trade partners whose main objective was to ditch money rather than acquire prospects. I don't think by that stage, anybody really thought Hill, Bruback or Choi were ever going to amount to much. Getting in Grudz and Karros was just a case of getting Hundley out of the door and taking on someone else's problem to do it: if Hendry now claims he knew how successful those two guys were going to be for the Cubs, he's a fucking liar.
Having said that, if those trades had turned out different, you can bet your bottom fucking dollar that I'd be holding Hendry responsible for them. So, you know... I'm not sure what my point is.
I think you can dismiss any good move any GM makes, if you try hard enough. You could play the same game with everything Epstein and Hoyer have done. When a move turns out well, just enjoy it.
Quote from: R-V on March 28, 2014, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 28, 2014, 08:53:35 AM
Besides, what would the Ricketts' "due diligence" had found if it were run differently? You have a team that won two straight division titles, including one year with the best record in the league. That happened under Jim Hendry.
THIS. When you're buying a business that you have no experience with, even the Big Swinginest Dick, My Way or the Highway New Owner probably would not immediately shitcan the guy that just put together two division titles. Now those titles were obviously not leading indicators of long-term success, but I'm not going to call Ricketts an idiot because it took him 18 months longer than a Savvy Owner would've needed to identify the organizational rot under the surface of the shiny division titles.
I can't wait for the Cubs to win a World Series and see Chuck's immediate complaint that it should've happened a year sooner, dammit!
Internet Chuck won't see the Cubs win a World Series. He'll have switched off in the middle of August and started cheering for other teams, because he doesn't like Kent Mercker.
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2014, 08:42:10 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 28, 2014, 08:40:52 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 28, 2014, 08:37:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 28, 2014, 07:12:40 AM
I'm not comfortable with everything Chuck is saying here but I am not convinced that he's 100% wrong on this either... Final analysis: Chuck is 75% wrong.
Quote from: Slaky on March 28, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
I don't think Chuck is entirely wrong but I think he is living in a fucking fantasy land.
Internet Chuck was never 100% wrong about Soriano either, was he? And that probably just made all the dumb things he chose to say that much more irritating.
He was 100% wrong when he called him an "awful, awful" baseball player.
Yes, that is entirely incorrect. Especially, inexplicably near the end of his tenure.
Soriano's legacy for me will be mostly positive.
Right. But he wasn't entirely wrong to expect Soriano's contract to be an albatross by the end of its term. I think we all more or less expected that to be the case. It was that he could turn that into "awful, awful" (and so forth) that makes him Chuck.
Just like he'll be hanging this "revealing" and "very troubling" video (in which Joe Ricketts, by way of explaining how much his son loves the Cubs, lovingly jokes about Tom being a bit of a college goof-off who watched a lot of baseball and graduated a few months late) around the Ricketts' necks for the rest of eternity.
Quote from: Eli on March 28, 2014, 09:15:50 AM
I think you can dismiss any good move any GM makes, if you try hard enough. You could play the same game with everything Epstein and Hoyer have done. When a move turns out well, just enjoy it.
The failures always leave a more lasting impression. Which is why John Holland is still better known for trading away Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio than he is for trading Larry Jackson for Fergie Jenkins.