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Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 08:41:19 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Hells to the no.

Quote from: Wheezer on April 11, 2011, 01:15:51 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 08:41:19 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Hells to the no.

It's as though you people have no recollection of the Sears Husky line.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 11, 2011, 01:59:11 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 11, 2011, 01:15:51 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 08:41:19 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Hells to the no.

It's as though you people have no recollection of the Sears Husky line.

RV remembers.

Remembers the shame.

Quote from: Wheezer on April 11, 2011, 01:15:51 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 08:41:19 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Hells to the no.

It's as though you people have no recollection of the Sears Toughskins Husky line.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 11, 2011, 01:59:11 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 11, 2011, 01:15:51 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 08:41:19 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Hells to the no.

It's as though you people have no recollection of the Sears Husky line.

RV remembers.

Remembers the shame.

Quote from: R-V on April 11, 2011, 08:36:24 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 11, 2011, 01:59:11 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 11, 2011, 01:15:51 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 08:41:19 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Hells to the no.

It's as though you people have no recollection of the Sears Husky line.

RV remembers.

Remembers the shame.

Sears? Meh. Montgomery Ward's was more accommodating to the girthier adolescent.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 11, 2011, 09:42:20 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 11, 2011, 08:36:24 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 11, 2011, 01:59:11 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 11, 2011, 01:15:51 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 08:41:19 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Hells to the no.

It's as though you people have no recollection of the Sears Husky line.

RV remembers.

Remembers the shame.

Sears? Meh. Montgomery Ward's was more accommodating to the girthier adolescent.

How I will forever picture Young RV...

(http://i.imgur.com/Kxz7k.jpg)

Quote from: flannj on April 11, 2011, 09:52:39 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 11, 2011, 09:42:20 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 11, 2011, 08:36:24 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 11, 2011, 01:59:11 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 11, 2011, 01:15:51 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 08:41:19 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2011, 07:34:18 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 07, 2011, 07:16:56 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on April 05, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
That apostrophe's not AP style, either.

That happens to be the name of my new line of baggy jorts and button-up t-shirts.

Do they come in any size other than extra medium?

Hells to the no.

It's as though you people have no recollection of the Sears Husky line.

RV remembers.

Remembers the shame.

Sears? Meh. Montgomery Ward's was more accommodating to the girthier adolescent.

How I will forever picture Young RV...

(http://i.imgur.com/Kxz7k.jpg)

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/189000/189222_1239888747621_200_330.jpg)

Quote from: Yeti on April 12, 2011, 08:25:48 PM
Obvi This... (http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/steigstory/04-10-2011-Steigerwald) but I post this more to pose a question to CT..

Is this irony? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDWAOkTK5l4&feature=player_embedded)

I hope you see this before work tomorrow because I don't want another drywall cubicle smashed.. Unless you're taking more days off like you gave birth or something, pussy.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 12, 2011, 08:38:20 PM

Quote from: Yeti on April 12, 2011, 08:25:48 PM
Obvi This... (http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/steigstory/04-10-2011-Steigerwald) but I post this more to pose a question to CT..

Is this irony? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDWAOkTK5l4&feature=player_embedded)

I hope you see this before work tomorrow because I don't want another drywall cubicle smashed.. Unless you're taking more days off like you gave birth or something, pussy.

http://justwatchthegame.com/blog/quit-crying

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 12, 2011, 08:44:25 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 12, 2011, 08:38:20 PM

Quote from: Yeti on April 12, 2011, 08:25:48 PM
Obvi This... (http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/steigstory/04-10-2011-Steigerwald) but I post this more to pose a question to CT..

Is this irony? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDWAOkTK5l4&feature=player_embedded)

I hope you see this before work tomorrow because I don't want another drywall cubicle smashed.. Unless you're taking more days off like you gave birth or something, pussy.

http://justwatchthegame.com/blog/quit-crying

And, via that Yetti guy, this:

http://justwatchthegame.com/blog/do-girls-like-girlie-men

QuoteI would rather hear that a guy went berserk in the locker room shower (||) and ripped the faucets out of the wall after a loss than hear that he was sitting on his stool sobbing.
Does that make me a bad guy?

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 12, 2011, 08:38:20 PM

Quote from: Yeti on April 12, 2011, 08:25:48 PM
Obvi This... (http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/steigstory/04-10-2011-Steigerwald) but I post this more to pose a question to CT..

Is this irony? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDWAOkTK5l4&feature=player_embedded)

I hope you see this before work tomorrow because I don't want another drywall cubicle smashed.. Unless you're taking more days off like you gave birth or something, pussy.

http://justwatchthegame.com/blog/quit-crying

Quote from: Eli on April 13, 2011, 07:23:00 AM
Steigerwald responds to the criticism with a post called THANKS FOR NOT TAKING IT PERSONALLY

http://justwatchthegame.com/blog/thanks-for-not-taking-it-personally

QuoteJohnSteigerwald
in April 13th, 2011 @ 08:19

No Giants jersey. No beating.

Quote from: ApexAh, nothing like a terrible writer getting butthurt because someone mistook something he wrote for something he claims he didn't mean. Want to avoid confusion? Be better at your job.

Quote from: DoucherocketIt's a blog. I INVITE people to comment on what I write and then I respond to it. Then they respond as you just did and I respond again. When someone says that I claimed a victim of a vicious beating had it coming to him, I'm going to defend myself. I apparently gave people too much credit and assumed that most people know the difference between having crreated a response and deserving the response, no matter how over the top it may be. If you insult someone and he punches you in the face and breaks your nose, you may not have deserved the broken nose, but it wouldn't have happened if not for the insult. The person who breaks your nose doesn't get a pass because you insulted him. Brian Stow had to know his jersey was going to get a response. His mistake was assuming that he would get a reasonable one from a crowd that was notoriously unreasonable.

Quote from: Bort on April 13, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
Oh dip...

Quote from: ApexAh, nothing like a terrible writer getting butthurt because someone mistook something he wrote for something he claims he didn't mean. Want to avoid confusion? Be better at your job.

Quote from: DoucherocketIt's a blog. I INVITE people to comment on what I write and then I respond to it. Then they respond as you just did and I respond again. When someone says that I claimed a victim of a vicious beating had it coming to him, I'm going to defend myself. I apparently gave people too much credit and assumed that most people know the difference between having crreated a response and deserving the response, no matter how over the top it may be. If you insult someone and he punches you in the face and breaks your nose, you may not have deserved the broken nose, but it wouldn't have happened if not for the insult. The person who breaks your nose doesn't get a pass because you insulted him. Brian Stow had to know his jersey was going to get a response. His mistake was assuming that he would get a reasonable one from a crowd that was notoriously unreasonable.

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 13, 2011, 09:20:41 AM

Quote from: Bort on April 13, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
Oh dip...

Quote from: ApexAh, nothing like a terrible writer getting butthurt because someone mistook something he wrote for something he claims he didn't mean. Want to avoid confusion? Be better at your job.

Quote from: DoucherocketIt's a blog. I INVITE people to comment on what I write and then I respond to it. Then they respond as you just did and I respond again. When someone says that I claimed a victim of a vicious beating had it coming to him, I'm going to defend myself. I apparently gave people too much credit and assumed that most people know the difference between having crreated a response and deserving the response, no matter how over the top it may be. If you insult someone and he punches you in the face and breaks your nose, you may not have deserved the broken nose, but it wouldn't have happened if not for the insult. The person who breaks your nose doesn't get a pass because you insulted him. Brian Stow had to know his jersey was going to get a response. His mistake was assuming that he would get a reasonable one from a crowd that was notoriously unreasonable.

Asshurt.

QuoteJohnSteigerwald
in April 13th, 2011 @ 08:20

The mob mentality has existed for as long as there have been mobs. I suggested a psychological study to determin if the jersey phenomenon fuels it.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 13, 2011, 09:27:42 AM
http://justwatchthegame.com/blog/thanks-for-not-taking-it-personally#comment-37316

QuoteJohnSteigerwald
in April 13th, 2011 @ 08:20

The mob mentality has existed for as long as there have been mobs. I suggested a psychological study to determin if the jersey phenomenon fuels it.

You see, people? He's a scholar.

Quote from: Slaky on April 13, 2011, 09:59:20 AM
This guy writes like MikeC.

Quote from: Bort on April 13, 2011, 09:25:37 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 13, 2011, 09:20:41 AM

Quote from: Bort on April 13, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
Oh dip...

Quote from: ApexAh, nothing like a terrible writer getting butthurt because someone mistook something he wrote for something he claims he didn't mean. Want to avoid confusion? Be better at your job.

Quote from: DoucherocketIt's a blog. I INVITE people to comment on what I write and then I respond to it. Then they respond as you just did and I respond again. When someone says that I claimed a victim of a vicious beating had it coming to him, I'm going to defend myself. I apparently gave people too much credit and assumed that most people know the difference between having crreated a response and deserving the response, no matter how over the top it may be. If you insult someone and he punches you in the face and breaks your nose, you may not have deserved the broken nose, but it wouldn't have happened if not for the insult. The person who breaks your nose doesn't get a pass because you insulted him. Brian Stow had to know his jersey was going to get a response. His mistake was assuming that he would get a reasonable one from a crowd that was notoriously unreasonable.

Asshurt.

Praise from caesar.

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 13, 2011, 01:57:01 PM
Check it out. I hink his blog has been Ratto'd. taken down to cull future embarrassment.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 13, 2011, 02:00:04 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 13, 2011, 01:57:01 PM
Check it out. I hink his blog has been Ratto'd. taken down to cull future embarrassment temporarily because his host's servers are getting slammed with traffic.

QuoteI don't disagree with everything Trzeciak's tried out at McMaster. [...] He got the library involved in Second Life, which is something I was glad they were testing because I had absolutely no interest in it. It turned out to be a dud, but someone had to find that out.

QuoteThe things we were trained to do with our MLS can allegedly be done just as well by paraprofessionals. Exciting new projects are/will be the purview of postdocs, or possibly new graduates who have had the advantage of learning about data curation in their programs.

QuoteYou cannot possibly win in the major leagues without pitching.

Just ask the former owner of the Texas Rangers, Tom Hicks, who signed Alex Rodriguez for $252 million — about $70 million above the next highest bidder. Hicks went on to sign just about every hitter he could when he first took over the Rangers. The belief was, in that park, in the American League West, in the AL, the best thing to do was assemble every bit of offense you could. That's how he planned to win games.

When he finished last in 2007, I'm sure somebody finally mentioned to him that it would help to have some pitchers, too.

The wonderful thing about pitching is that everyone has his or her own ideas and theories on what is the most important pitch.

Some people will tell you the well-located fastball is the best pitch in the game because you can move it up and down and in and out. Plus, if you can locate it, it sets up your other pitches. There's certainly a great case to be made for that.

Some people will tell you if you have a curveball that you can throw for strikes at different speeds, that is the best pitch in the game because, in the end, nobody hits a good curve. As an example of that, I give you Bert Blyleven and his 60 career shutouts.

In the 1990s the split-finger fastball was the pitch du jour, and everyone threw that. I'm sure some pitching coaches taught that pitch a lot better than others. I think that a good split-finger fastball or a forkball is a very good pitch. However, I think it also helps to destroy elbows.

Some pitchers have lived and died with the slider. Larry Andersen pitched for at least parts of 17 seasons, and he threw 98 percent sliders. Everyone went into the at-bat knowing what he was going to throw: a slider low and in to the left-handers; for the right-handers, it was a slider low and away.

Another popular pitch nowadays is the backdoor cutter. A right-handed pitcher will try to hit the outside corner to a left-handed batter, while a left-handed pitcher will try to hit the outside corner to a right-handed batter. But those aren't used as often as normal cutters are. The circle change was around last decade, and they're using it more this decade. There's also a three-fingered change and a number of other changeups as well.

But which is the most important pitch in the game?

Greg Maddux was most likely the smartest pitcher of his generation, but there's one aspect of pitching that I disagree with him on. Maddux will tell you the most important pitch in any sequence is the 1-1 pitch because it sets up the rest of the at-bat. If it's 1-2, it's very much a defensive at-bat. If it's 2-1, it becomes very much an offensive at-bat.

But I disagree. Keep in mind that disagreeing with a guy who has that much ability, is that intelligent, and understands the game and has broken it down as well as he has is something I take pause before doing.

But I will do so, nonetheless.

I think the first-pitch strike — whatever type of pitch it is — is the best pitch in the game.

If you throw a first-pitch strike, you then have the opportunity to go 0-2. If you take a look at statistics and computer models, you'll find that the batting averages are ridiculously low on 0-2 counts. So if you're throwing a first-pitch strike, it automatically sets up a defensive at-bat.

Quote from: CT III on April 17, 2011, 08:39:59 AM
Baseball supergenius Steve Stone wrote a book!

Here's the excerpt that's been distributed for marketing purposes:

QuoteYou cannot possibly win in the major leagues without pitching.

Just ask the former owner of the Texas Rangers, Tom Hicks, who signed Alex Rodriguez for $252 million — about $70 million above the next highest bidder. Hicks went on to sign just about every hitter he could when he first took over the Rangers. The belief was, in that park, in the American League West, in the AL, the best thing to do was assemble every bit of offense you could. That's how he planned to win games.

When he finished last in 2007, I'm sure somebody finally mentioned to him that it would help to have some pitchers, too.

The wonderful thing about pitching is that everyone has his or her own ideas and theories on what is the most important pitch.

Some people will tell you the well-located fastball is the best pitch in the game because you can move it up and down and in and out. Plus, if you can locate it, it sets up your other pitches. There's certainly a great case to be made for that.

Some people will tell you if you have a curveball that you can throw for strikes at different speeds, that is the best pitch in the game because, in the end, nobody hits a good curve. As an example of that, I give you Bert Blyleven and his 60 career shutouts.

In the 1990s the split-finger fastball was the pitch du jour, and everyone threw that. I'm sure some pitching coaches taught that pitch a lot better than others. I think that a good split-finger fastball or a forkball is a very good pitch. However, I think it also helps to destroy elbows.

Some pitchers have lived and died with the slider. Larry Andersen pitched for at least parts of 17 seasons, and he threw 98 percent sliders. Everyone went into the at-bat knowing what he was going to throw: a slider low and in to the left-handers; for the right-handers, it was a slider low and away.

Another popular pitch nowadays is the backdoor cutter. A right-handed pitcher will try to hit the outside corner to a left-handed batter, while a left-handed pitcher will try to hit the outside corner to a right-handed batter. But those aren't used as often as normal cutters are. The circle change was around last decade, and they're using it more this decade. There's also a three-fingered change and a number of other changeups as well.

But which is the most important pitch in the game?

Greg Maddux was most likely the smartest pitcher of his generation, but there's one aspect of pitching that I disagree with him on. Maddux will tell you the most important pitch in any sequence is the 1-1 pitch because it sets up the rest of the at-bat. If it's 1-2, it's very much a defensive at-bat. If it's 2-1, it becomes very much an offensive at-bat.

But I disagree. Keep in mind that disagreeing with a guy who has that much ability, is that intelligent, and understands the game and has broken it down as well as he has is something I take pause before doing.

But I will do so, nonetheless.

I think the first-pitch strike — whatever type of pitch it is — is the best pitch in the game.

If you throw a first-pitch strike, you then have the opportunity to go 0-2. If you take a look at statistics and computer models, you'll find that the batting averages are ridiculously low on 0-2 counts. So if you're throwing a first-pitch strike, it automatically sets up a defensive at-bat.

This may be the most boring thing I've ever read.

Quote from: CT III on April 17, 2011, 08:39:59 AM
Baseball supergenius Steve Stone wrote a book!

Here's the excerpt that's been distributed for marketing purposes:

QuoteYou cannot possibly win in the major leagues without pitching.

Just ask the former owner of the Texas Rangers, Tom Hicks, who signed Alex Rodriguez for $252 million — about $70 million above the next highest bidder. Hicks went on to sign just about every hitter he could when he first took over the Rangers. The belief was, in that park, in the American League West, in the AL, the best thing to do was assemble every bit of offense you could. That's how he planned to win games.

When he finished last in 2007, I'm sure somebody finally mentioned to him that it would help to have some pitchers, too.

The wonderful thing about pitching is that everyone has his or her own ideas and theories on what is the most important pitch.

Some people will tell you the well-located fastball is the best pitch in the game because you can move it up and down and in and out. Plus, if you can locate it, it sets up your other pitches. There's certainly a great case to be made for that.

Some people will tell you if you have a curveball that you can throw for strikes at different speeds, that is the best pitch in the game because, in the end, nobody hits a good curve. As an example of that, I give you Bert Blyleven and his 60 career shutouts.

In the 1990s the split-finger fastball was the pitch du jour, and everyone threw that. I'm sure some pitching coaches taught that pitch a lot better than others. I think that a good split-finger fastball or a forkball is a very good pitch. However, I think it also helps to destroy elbows.

Some pitchers have lived and died with the slider. Larry Andersen pitched for at least parts of 17 seasons, and he threw 98 percent sliders. Everyone went into the at-bat knowing what he was going to throw: a slider low and in to the left-handers; for the right-handers, it was a slider low and away.

Another popular pitch nowadays is the backdoor cutter. A right-handed pitcher will try to hit the outside corner to a left-handed batter, while a left-handed pitcher will try to hit the outside corner to a right-handed batter. But those aren't used as often as normal cutters are. The circle change was around last decade, and they're using it more this decade. There's also a three-fingered change and a number of other changeups as well.

But which is the most important pitch in the game?

Greg Maddux was most likely the smartest pitcher of his generation, but there's one aspect of pitching that I disagree with him on. Maddux will tell you the most important pitch in any sequence is the 1-1 pitch because it sets up the rest of the at-bat. If it's 1-2, it's very much a defensive at-bat. If it's 2-1, it becomes very much an offensive at-bat.

But I disagree. Keep in mind that disagreeing with a guy who has that much ability, is that intelligent, and understands the game and has broken it down as well as he has is something I take pause before doing.

But I will do so, nonetheless.

I think the first-pitch strike — whatever type of pitch it is — is the best pitch in the game.

If you throw a first-pitch strike, you then have the opportunity to go 0-2. If you take a look at statistics and computer models, you'll find that the batting averages are ridiculously low on 0-2 counts. So if you're throwing a first-pitch strike, it automatically sets up a defensive at-bat.

This may be the most boring thing I've ever read.

Quote from: R-V on April 17, 2011, 03:13:44 PM
Does the book come with a towel to wipe up all the smarm that drips off the pages?

Quote from: CBStew on April 22, 2011, 12:07:14 PM
Gordo in the Sun Times today.  It could make a high school English teacher weep:

"Yet the Cubs have managed to win six games decided by two or fewer runs and win another by three. And twice more they had one-run leads in the opponent's final at-bat and couldn't hold it."

Quote from: CBStew on May 04, 2011, 12:03:58 PM

The Sun Times left the "byline" off of this gem this morning.

"The fact Fukudome is a platoon player — leading off against right-handers, usually sitting against righties — makes the playing time especially predictable and also keeps Fukudome more rested."

Quote from: Slaky on May 04, 2011, 12:47:11 PM

Quote from: CBStew on May 04, 2011, 12:03:58 PM

The Sun Times left the "byline" off of this gem this morning.

"The fact Fukudome is a platoon player — leading off against right-handers, usually sitting against righties — makes the playing time especially predictable and also keeps Fukudome more rested."

Apparently being able to write isn't a requirement for being a writer typist.

Quote from: CBStew on May 25, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
If I had been toold about this and not read it myself I wouldn't have believed it.  Rogers is not merely taking issue with a White Sox site, he is arguing with of of the people who posts there.  How insecure is this guy?

"A couple days ago I used a Mark Buehrle item here that caused me to get bashed on the website whitesoxinteractive.com. That's nothing new. But it's mentioned here because this particular item said that I incorrectly reported details about Buehrle's contract. So that bothered me. I checked the information and was told that my report was correct.

The point of contention is a clause that guarantees Buehrle a $15 million salary in 2012 if he is traded. A poster on the WSI.com site said that clause was voided when Buehrle became a 10/5 guy in 2010, but that's not right. The clause still exists, although it isn't expected to be an issue for two reasons: 1) Any team trading for Buehrle would probably have to rework his contract to get him to waive the 10/5 rights, and 2) the White Sox are very unlikely to trade Buehrle. I made that point in my item, which discussed his potential value to National League teams. Now that we've got that cleared up..."

Quote from: SKO on May 25, 2011, 01:18:51 PM

Quote from: CBStew on May 25, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
If I had been toold about this and not read it myself I wouldn't have believed it.  Rogers is not merely taking issue with a White Sox site, he is arguing with of of the people who posts there.  How insecure is this guy?

"A couple days ago I used a Mark Buehrle item here that caused me to get bashed on the website whitesoxinteractive.com. That's nothing new. But it's mentioned here because this particular item said that I incorrectly reported details about Buehrle's contract. So that bothered me. I checked the information and was told that my report was correct.

The point of contention is a clause that guarantees Buehrle a $15 million salary in 2012 if he is traded. A poster on the WSI.com site said that clause was voided when Buehrle became a 10/5 guy in 2010, but that's not right. The clause still exists, although it isn't expected to be an issue for two reasons: 1) Any team trading for Buehrle would probably have to rework his contract to get him to waive the 10/5 rights, and 2) the White Sox are very unlikely to trade Buehrle. I made that point in my item, which discussed his potential value to National League teams. Now that we've got that cleared up..."

Wow. All those times that Andy's taken the hatchet to Phil and he chooses to bicker with someone who complained about him having his contract numbers wrong?

QuoteSumming up the way so many people on the North Side probably felt Sunday night, Jim Hendry just sighed when he answered the phone. On the eve of Major League Baseball's amateur draft, Hendry took precious time away from preparing for the Cubs to pick ninth overall to compare Carlos Zambrano's shenanigans.

QuoteI understand why Hendry needs to gather information and sort through issues related to the players association. But if it were me, after severing all ties with whatever therapist signed off on Zambrano's anger management last July, the Cubs' next move seems easy. Suspend Zambrano as long as it takes Hendry to find a trade partner willing to take on a contract scheduled to pay the pitcher $18 million in 2012 with a player option in 2013. If it takes all season for a Cubs team already out of contention, so be it.

Quote from: CT III on June 06, 2011, 09:24:50 AM
David Haugh is the stupidest man alive.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0606-haugh-zambrano--20110605,0,6141835.column

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Quote... after severing all ties with whatever therapist signed off on Zambrano's anger management last July...

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 06, 2011, 09:31:40 AM

Quote from: CT III on June 06, 2011, 09:24:50 AM
David Haugh is the stupidest man alive.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0606-haugh-zambrano--20110605,0,6141835.column

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Quote... after severing all ties with whatever therapist signed off on Zambrano's anger management last July...

Haugh is right. Carlos was clearly out of control when he punched someone in the dugout attacked a water cooler raised his voice to someone spoke to the press about how frustrating it is to play for a shitty baseball team.

Obviously what Haugh wants is for Zambrano to give the press the silent treatment like Urlacher did.

Quote from: BH on June 06, 2011, 09:54:17 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 06, 2011, 09:31:40 AM

Quote from: CT III on June 06, 2011, 09:24:50 AM
David Haugh is the stupidest man alive.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0606-haugh-zambrano--20110605,0,6141835.column

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Quote... after severing all ties with whatever therapist signed off on Zambrano's anger management last July...

Haugh is right. Carlos was clearly out of control when he punched someone in the dugout attacked a water cooler raised his voice to someone spoke to the press about how frustrating it is to play for a shitty baseball team.

Obviously what Haugh wants is for Zambrano to give the press the silent treatment like Urlacher did.

He points the blame at everyone but himself guys. That's why we should care so much. If our team sucks, at least they should be stand up guys. Guys you'd want to take to a birthday party. Guys you want to go to battle with. Best friend material.  You don't call out your best friend when they are trying their damned hardest. Amirite? Show some sincerity. Get rid of this clown, he's harshing our mellow.

Quote from: BH on June 06, 2011, 09:54:17 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 06, 2011, 09:31:40 AM

Quote from: CT III on June 06, 2011, 09:24:50 AM
David Haugh is the stupidest man alive.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0606-haugh-zambrano--20110605,0,6141835.column

...

Quote... after severing all ties with whatever therapist signed off on Zambrano's anger management last July...

Haugh is right. Carlos was clearly out of control when he punched someone in the dugout attacked a water cooler raised his voice to someone spoke to the press about how frustrating it is to play for a shitty baseball team.

Obviously what Haugh wants is for Zambrano to give the press the silent treatment like Urlacher did.

He points the blame at everyone but himself guys. That's why we should care so much. If our team sucks, at least they should be stand up guys. Guys you'd want to take to a birthday party. Guys you want to go to battle with. Best friend material.  You don't call out your best friend when they are trying their damned hardest. Amirite? Show some sincerity. Get rid of this clown, he's harshing our mellow.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 06, 2011, 10:28:57 AM
Holy shit! Must read stuff at SBNation Chicago.

http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-cubs/2011/6/6/2209116/carlos-zambrano-cubs-ryan-theriot-albert-pujols

Quote from: Brownie on June 06, 2011, 10:33:12 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 06, 2011, 10:28:57 AM
Holy shit! Must read stuff at SBNation Chicago.

http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-cubs/2011/6/6/2209116/carlos-zambrano-cubs-ryan-theriot-albert-pujols

When did Andy endear himself to SBNation? How can Al eventually ban him?

Quote from: PANK! on June 06, 2011, 10:36:52 AM

Quote from: Brownie on June 06, 2011, 10:33:12 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 06, 2011, 10:28:57 AM
Holy shit! Must read stuff at SBNation Chicago.

http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-cubs/2011/6/6/2209116/carlos-zambrano-cubs-ryan-theriot-albert-pujols

When did Andy endear himself to SBNation? How can Al eventually ban him?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

QuoteThis has been, once again, another dead-ass team. You've got some guys that look like they're just playing out the string, and we're only in the first (week) of June here, and we know from past experience that Carlos is not on e of those guys that can sit by idly and keep his mouth shut and just let things continue to spiral downward. He's going to express his opinion, he's going to be emotional about it when he does it.

Quote from: Oleg on June 06, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
I love Carlos Zambrano.  I hope he gets traded to The Yankees and wins a ring.

Fuck these assholes.

Quote from: BH on June 06, 2011, 11:40:12 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 06, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
I love Carlos Zambrano.  I hope he gets traded to The Yankees and wins a ring.

Fuck these assholes.

But what if he takes Fleita with him? Or Hendry?

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 06, 2011, 11:47:09 AM

Quote from: BH on June 06, 2011, 11:40:12 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 06, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
I love Carlos Zambrano.  I hope he gets traded to The Yankees and wins a ring.

Fuck these assholes.

But what if he takes Fleita with him? Or Hendry?

And what if he gets injured and that team is no longer respectable?

Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 06, 2011, 01:49:09 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 06, 2011, 11:47:09 AM

Quote from: BH on June 06, 2011, 11:40:12 AM

Quote from: Oleg on June 06, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
I love Carlos Zambrano.  I hope he gets traded to The Yankees and wins a ring.

Fuck these assholes.

But what if he takes Fleita with him? Or Hendry?

And what if he gets injured and that team is no longer respectable?

HGH is a helluva drug?

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

QuoteThe Rays weren't finished, either, turning Garza into several pieces (the deal will probably be known as the Hak-Ju Lee deal in a few years)...

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 07, 2011, 10:27:15 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

If only he had said that instead of "teams' top picks".

QuoteWhen Top Picks Get Traded

Quotewhen Pittsburgh uses its top pick tonight

Quote2004's top pick, Matt Bush

Quote2003's top pick, Delmon Young

Quote2002's top pick, Bryan Bullington

QuoteThe 2000 top pick posted strong numbers

QuoteBut let's not assume that these top pick stories will all end in misery and missed opportunities.

Quote1990's top pick, Chipper Jones

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 07, 2011, 10:27:15 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

If only he had said that instead of "teams' top picks".

To be fair, and your quotation marks notwithstanding, he never actually uses the phrase "teams' top picks"...

QuoteWhen Top Picks Get Traded

Quotewhen Pittsburgh uses its top pick tonight

Quote2004's top pick, Matt Bush

Quote2003's top pick, Delmon Young

Quote2002's top pick, Bryan Bullington

QuoteThe 2000 top pick posted strong numbers

QuoteBut let's not assume that these top pick stories will all end in misery and missed opportunities.

Quote1990's top pick, Chipper Jones

Not to nit-pick or anything.

Quote from: PANK! on June 07, 2011, 10:39:01 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 07, 2011, 10:27:15 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

If only he had said that instead of "teams' top picks".

To be fair, and your quotation marks notwithstanding, he never actually uses the phrase "teams' top picks"...

QuoteWhen Top Picks Get Traded

Quotewhen Pittsburgh uses its top pick tonight

Quote2004's top pick, Matt Bush

Quote2003's top pick, Delmon Young

Quote2002's top pick, Bryan Bullington

QuoteThe 2000 top pick posted strong numbers

QuoteBut let's not assume that these top pick stories will all end in misery and missed opportunities.

Quote1990's top pick, Chipper Jones

Not to nit-pick or anything.

Can you use less quotes next time?

Quote from: PANK! on June 07, 2011, 10:39:01 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 07, 2011, 10:27:15 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

If only he had said that instead of "teams' top picks".

To be fair, and your quotation marks notwithstanding, he never actually uses the phrase "teams' top picks"...

QuoteWhen Top Picks Get Traded

Quotewhen Pittsburgh uses its top pick tonight

Quote2004's top pick, Matt Bush

Quote2003's top pick, Delmon Young

Quote2002's top pick, Bryan Bullington

QuoteThe 2000 top pick posted strong numbers

QuoteBut let's not assume that these top pick stories will all end in misery and missed opportunities.

Quote1990's top pick, Chipper Jones

Not to nit-pick or anything.

Can you use less quotes next time?

Quote from: morpheus on June 07, 2011, 10:44:33 AM

Quote from: PANK! on June 07, 2011, 10:39:01 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 07, 2011, 10:27:15 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

If only he had said that instead of "teams' top picks".

To be fair, and your quotation marks notwithstanding, he never actually uses the phrase "teams' top picks"...

QuoteWhen Top Picks Get Traded

Quotewhen Pittsburgh uses its top pick tonight

Quote2004's top pick, Matt Bush

Quote2003's top pick, Delmon Young

Quote2002's top pick, Bryan Bullington

QuoteThe 2000 top pick posted strong numbers

QuoteBut let's not assume that these top pick stories will all end in misery and missed opportunities.

Quote1990's top pick, Chipper Jones

Not to nit-pick or anything.

Can you use less quotes next time?

I think he should use fewer quotes.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 07, 2011, 10:57:08 AM

Quote from: morpheus on June 07, 2011, 10:44:33 AM

Quote from: PANK! on June 07, 2011, 10:39:01 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 07, 2011, 10:27:15 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

If only he had said that instead of "teams' top picks".

To be fair, and your quotation marks notwithstanding, he never actually uses the phrase "teams' top picks"...

QuoteWhen Top Picks Get Traded

Quotewhen Pittsburgh uses its top pick tonight

Quote2004's top pick, Matt Bush

Quote2003's top pick, Delmon Young

Quote2002's top pick, Bryan Bullington

QuoteThe 2000 top pick posted strong numbers

QuoteBut let's not assume that these top pick stories will all end in misery and missed opportunities.

Quote1990's top pick, Chipper Jones

Not to nit-pick or anything.

Can you use less quotes next time?

I think he should use fewer quotes.

Goosio agrees.

(http://images.wikia.com/mst3k/images/4/42/Goosio.jpg)

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 07, 2011, 10:27:15 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on June 06, 2011, 08:56:36 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 11, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
This. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/tim-byrdak-has-an-app-for-that.html)

Another one from this guy. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/the-end-of-the-affair-when-top-picks-get-traded.html)

Didn't know this:

QuoteEvery pick since 2005 is still with the team that drafted them

I got to #3 in the 2005 draft (Jeff Clement) and #5 in the 2006 draft (Brandon Morrow) before finding players who changed teams. There were others, but maybe I just don't understand what that guy is trying to say.

Yeah, I have no idea what he means.  Right after Morrow in '06 was Andrew Miller, who is no longer with the Tigers either.  Jeffress (#16) is out of the Brewers organization, Antonelli (#17) is not a Dodger, Drabek (#18) isn't a Phillie, and on and on.  I might understand if only I had constant reminders on how to use that site. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+how+to+use+mlbtr#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=site:mlbtraderumors.com+%22how+to+use+mlbtr%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=98e85b9d58f5e006&biw=1174&bih=1090)

I'm pretty sure he's only talking about #1 overall picks.

If only he had said that instead of "teams' top picks".

To be fair, and your quotation marks notwithstanding, he never actually uses the phrase "teams' top picks"...

QuoteWhen Top Picks Get Traded

Quotewhen Pittsburgh uses its top pick tonight

Quote2004's top pick, Matt Bush

Quote2003's top pick, Delmon Young

Quote2002's top pick, Bryan Bullington

QuoteThe 2000 top pick posted strong numbers

QuoteBut let's not assume that these top pick stories will all end in misery and missed opportunities.

Quote1990's top pick, Chipper Jones

Not to nit-pick or anything.

Quote from: R-V on June 16, 2011, 10:30:57 AM
I guess this technically belongs in the Totally Unmailable thread, but this memo written by Stew during his college internship for MLB is awesome.

(http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/dirtymemo.jpg)

Quote from: CBStew on June 16, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
The footnote is classic.  I forgot that the Postal Service used to open and read all of our mail before forwarding it on.

Quote from: CBStew on June 16, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
The footnote is classic.  I forgot that the Postal Service used to open and read all of our mail before forwarding it on.

Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on June 16, 2011, 04:54:48 PM

Quote from: CBStew on June 16, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
The footnote is classic.  I forgot that the Postal Service used to open and read all of our mail before forwarding it on.

FOOTNOTES... ARGH!

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 16, 2011, 06:19:50 PM

Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on June 16, 2011, 04:54:48 PM

Quote from: CBStew on June 16, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
The footnote is classic.  I forgot that the Postal Service used to open and read all of our mail before forwarding it on.

FOOTNOTES... ARGH!

You hate footnotes?

Lucky for you Bort doesn't blog anymore.

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 16, 2011, 06:19:50 PM

Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on June 16, 2011, 04:54:48 PM

Quote from: CBStew on June 16, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
The footnote is classic.  I forgot that the Postal Service used to open and read all of our mail before forwarding it on.

FOOTNOTES... ARGH!

You hate footnotes?

Lucky for you Bort doesn't blog anymore.

Quote22. Nationals (25): Outfielder Michael Morse and second baseman Danny Espinosa might be the sneak attack players of the year.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
Oh, for the love of God...

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/best-sports-blog/BestOf?oid=4094655

Quote from: Fork on June 28, 2011, 12:43:05 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
Oh, for the love of God...

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/best-sports-blog/BestOf?oid=4094655

I'm sure the boys at SCH are honored to be placed among such giants.

Quote from: CT III on June 28, 2011, 12:51:09 PM

Quote from: Fork on June 28, 2011, 12:43:05 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
Oh, for the love of God...

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/best-sports-blog/BestOf?oid=4094655

I'm sure the boys at SCH are honored to be placed among such giants.

I like that they clearly didn't read any of these sites, as they just assumed that The Bleacher Report was a Chicago sports blog.

Quote from: CT III on June 28, 2011, 12:51:09 PM

Quote from: Fork on June 28, 2011, 12:43:05 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
Oh, for the love of God...

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/best-sports-blog/BestOf?oid=4094655

I'm sure the boys at SCH are honored to be placed among such giants.

I like that they clearly didn't read any of these sites, as they just assumed that The Bleacher Report was a Chicago sports blog.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2011, 01:20:07 PM

Quote from: CT III on June 28, 2011, 12:51:09 PM

Quote from: Fork on June 28, 2011, 12:43:05 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
Oh, for the love of God...

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/best-sports-blog/BestOf?oid=4094655

I'm sure the boys at SCH are honored to be placed among such giants.

I like that they clearly didn't read any of these sites, as they just assumed that The Bleacher Report was a Chicago sports blog.

To be fair, these are the readers' poll winners. And it's a fairly well-established principle that the reading public are buffoons.

(Michael Jordan was a runner up for "Best athlete you'd resurrect to play another game (http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/best-athlete-resurrect-play-another-game/BestOf?oid=4094646)". Chicago... where the dead can vote and we resurrect the living.)

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
Oh, for the love of God...

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/best-sports-blog/BestOf?oid=4094655

QuoteZambrano threw a bullpen session at Wrigley Field on Wednesday while the Cubs were looking stupid in a third straight one-run loss in Washington on a suicide squeeze that just pantsed everybody from the manager on down. More of that later. For now, the story is that Zambrano threw a bullpen at Wrigley instead of in Washington because the Cubs didn't want the big goof to further hurt or strain his back sitting on an airplane. This spasm of lucidity could impact the Cubs' chances reaching first place in the Frickin' Idiot League.

Now get a load of this: Zambrano plans to fly to Guatemala over the All-Star break to prepare for the adoption of his son. Can you say "utter disrespect,'' boys and girls?

What's more, the Cubs have not said they will stop him. Dopes all around, it looks like. Zambrano continues to clown his team the way he clowned his manager with that bat-over-the-knee-episode and the team apparently says, "Thank you, sir, may I have another?''

So Cub.

Quote from: R-V on July 08, 2011, 01:15:00 PM
Words fail me. (http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/07/columnist-bashes-carlos-zambrano-for-flying-to-guatemala-to-adopt-a-baby-boy/)

QuoteZambrano threw a bullpen session at Wrigley Field on Wednesday while the Cubs were looking stupid in a third straight one-run loss in Washington on a suicide squeeze that just pantsed everybody from the manager on down. More of that later. For now, the story is that Zambrano threw a bullpen at Wrigley instead of in Washington because the Cubs didn't want the big goof to further hurt or strain his back sitting on an airplane. This spasm of lucidity could impact the Cubs' chances reaching first place in the Frickin' Idiot League.

Now get a load of this: Zambrano plans to fly to Guatemala over the All-Star break to prepare for the adoption of his son. Can you say "utter disrespect,'' boys and girls?

What's more, the Cubs have not said they will stop him. Dopes all around, it looks like. Zambrano continues to clown his team the way he clowned his manager with that bat-over-the-knee-episode and the team apparently says, "Thank you, sir, may I have another?''

So Cub.

QuoteEarlier this week Simon Dumenco published a column (http://adage.com/article/the-media-guy/abused-huffington-post/228607/) in Advertising Age griping that, for all Arianna's promises that she drives traffic to outside sites, the Huffington Post actually takes ideas and hands out few page views in exchange. His example was a column of his own (http://adage.com/article/trending-topics/steve-jobs-head-head-weinergate-twitter/228058/), which was liberally quoted and minimally linked (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/09/anthony-weiner-steve-jobs-twitter_n_873844.html) by HuffPo. In the end, the massive "traffic-driver" sent only 57 page views his way. It was an egregious but not uncommon example of the site's aggregation philosophy, on the far end of a sliding scale that often tries and succeeds in proper attribution. (Some of our posts get big bumps from a HuffPo link. Others don't.) In response to Dumenco's column, HuffPo's executive business editor, Peter Goodman, profusely apologized and suspended the young blogger (http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/romenesko/138730/huffington-post-suspends-writer-apologizes-for-over-aggregated-post/) who had "over-aggregated."

QuoteThe Huffington Post indefinitely suspended a young blogger today for rewriting too much of someone's news article. This is pretty ridiculous, given HuffPo's systematic, officially-sanctioned approach to rewriting too much of people's news articles. Just ask a HuffPo veteran.

"I am livid," a former HuffPo employee told us, referring to the news that the Huffington Post indefinitely suspended business writer Amy Lee (http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/romenesko/138730/huffington-post-suspends-writer-apologizes-for-over-aggregated-post/) for summarizing an AdAge column by mimicking its structure over six paragraphs (http://adage.com/article/the-media-guy/abused-huffington-post/228607/). HuffPo business editor Peter Goodman wrote in response to the AdAge columnist's complaint that "we have zero tolerance for this sort of conduct... What occurred in this instance is entirely unacceptable and collides directly with the values that are at work in our newsroom."

That will come as news to anyone who has read the Huffington Post, and indeed to anyone who has worked there. We're told the publication's longstanding and well-known (http://gawker.com/5113964/arianna-huffingtons-scuzzy-copying-pisses-off-chicagoans) tendency to reproduce large parts of other people's articles—verbatim (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/09/newsweek-reporter-what-ri_n_117953.html) or as summary—is no accident. The ex HufPo employee:

QuoteThat is what we were taught and told to do at HuffPost. Arianna and the higher ups made a decision to stop linking out directly as much and rewrite stories "the way the AP does." They even hired people specifically to rewrite other people's work. Whenever they get caught they just blame an underling. These poor kids right out of school who have no experience get told to do XY and Z and then get punished for doing it.

They have a "fair use" talk every couple of months but that only focuses on how much people can take directly from other sources, it never gets into the "don't just rewrite someone else's story" territory cause that's what HuffPost is built on.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 17, 2011, 06:18:17 PM
Cool story, bro. (http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?page=NFLDK2K11tmrlovehate)

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Quote from: Slaky on August 18, 2011, 09:26:43 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Instead of the simple and sense-making Haniemania he types out "Caleb 'Hania'".

Are you fucking kidding me?

I really missed my calling. This "job" of his requires writing 15 word paragraphs. He must kick these things out in 10 minutes.

On the bright side, you know things are somewhat good when this, of all things, is the big story.

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 09:31:57 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 18, 2011, 09:26:43 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Instead of the simple and sense-making Haniemania he types out "Caleb 'Hania'".

Are you fucking kidding me?

I really missed my calling. This "job" of his requires writing 15 word paragraphs. He must kick these things out in 10 minutes.

On the bright side, you know things are somewhat good when this, of all things, is the big story.

I love that this city can't live without a quarterback controversy. Jay is entrenched, so we all have to argue over which guy will take over if the season is fucked anyway?

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 09:31:57 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 18, 2011, 09:26:43 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Instead of the simple and sense-making Haniemania he types out "Caleb 'Hania'".

Are you fucking kidding me?

I really missed my calling. This "job" of his requires writing 15 word paragraphs. He must kick these things out in 10 minutes.

On the bright side, you know things are somewhat good when this, of all things, is the big story.

I love that this city can't live without a quarterback controversy. Jay is entrenched, so we all have to argue over which guy will take over if the season is fucked anyway?

Quote from: R-V on August 18, 2011, 09:37:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 09:31:57 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 18, 2011, 09:26:43 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Instead of the simple and sense-making Haniemania he types out "Caleb 'Hania'".

Are you fucking kidding me?

I really missed my calling. This "job" of his requires writing 15 word paragraphs. He must kick these things out in 10 minutes.

On the bright side, you know things are somewhat good when this, of all things, is the big story.

I love that this city can't live without a quarterback controversy. Jay is entrenched, so we all have to argue over which guy will take over if the season is fucked anyway?

The only thing worse than reading a David Haugh column is knowing that your backup QB is the desiccated remains of Todd Collins. I don't care if it's Hanie or Enderle. As long as Todd stays dead and gone.

QuoteI have doubts Martz can. Martz has made a career out of designing ways to make quarterbacks pile up big numbers. What he has done mostly with Cutler is enlarge his ego. End the bro-mance. A struggling, self-destructive quarterback doesn't need to hear how brilliant he is. He needs to be threatened with his job if he throws four picks again.

The praise Martz lavishes on Cutler is as embarrassing as it is enabling.

QuoteMartz inherited Hanie but he has to stop inhibiting him. Keep doubting a quarterback and eventually his tentative play will prove a coach right. But throw support behind a guy through adversity and often that faith is rewarded.

QuoteBut Hanie possesses a knack for making plays, a quality that turned him into Mr. August every training camp before this one. Those traits resurfaced Wednesday in a solid practice, the same instincts that carried Hanie in a playoff performance that apparently impressed everybody in Chicago but Martz.

Quote from: R-V on August 18, 2011, 09:37:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 09:31:57 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 18, 2011, 09:26:43 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Instead of the simple and sense-making Haniemania he types out "Caleb 'Hania'".

Are you fucking kidding me?

I really missed my calling. This "job" of his requires writing 15 word paragraphs. He must kick these things out in 10 minutes.

On the bright side, you know things are somewhat good when this, of all things, is the big story.

I love that this city can't live without a quarterback controversy. Jay is entrenched, so we all have to argue over which guy will take over if the season is fucked anyway?

The only thing worse than reading a David Haugh column is knowing that your backup QB is the desiccated remains of Todd Collins. I don't care if it's Hanie or Enderle. As long as Todd stays dead and gone.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2011, 10:35:09 AM

Quote from: R-V on August 18, 2011, 09:37:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 09:31:57 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 18, 2011, 09:26:43 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Instead of the simple and sense-making Haniemania he types out "Caleb 'Hania'".

Are you fucking kidding me?

I really missed my calling. This "job" of his requires writing 15 word paragraphs. He must kick these things out in 10 minutes.

On the bright side, you know things are somewhat good when this, of all things, is the big story.

I love that this city can't live without a quarterback controversy. Jay is entrenched, so we all have to argue over which guy will take over if the season is fucked anyway?

The only thing worse than reading a David Haugh column is knowing that your backup QB is the desiccated remains of Todd Collins. I don't care if it's Hanie or Enderle. As long as Todd stays dead and gone.

RV's not feeling the Todd Collia?

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 10:39:24 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2011, 10:35:09 AM

Quote from: R-V on August 18, 2011, 09:37:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 09:31:57 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 18, 2011, 09:26:43 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Instead of the simple and sense-making Haniemania he types out "Caleb 'Hania'".

Are you fucking kidding me?

I really missed my calling. This "job" of his requires writing 15 word paragraphs. He must kick these things out in 10 minutes.

On the bright side, you know things are somewhat good when this, of all things, is the big story.

I love that this city can't live without a quarterback controversy. Jay is entrenched, so we all have to argue over which guy will take over if the season is fucked anyway?

The only thing worse than reading a David Haugh column is knowing that your backup QB is the desiccated remains of Todd Collins. I don't care if it's Hanie or Enderle. As long as Todd stays dead and gone.

RV's not feeling the Todd Collia?

Todd Cholera.  (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81b330c0) I know it gave me profuse "watery diarrhea and vomiting."

Quote from: Brownie on August 18, 2011, 10:49:26 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 10:39:24 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2011, 10:35:09 AM

Quote from: R-V on August 18, 2011, 09:37:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2011, 09:31:57 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 18, 2011, 09:26:43 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 18, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
This will cheer you up Slak.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0818-haugh-bears-chicago--20110818,0,4384932.column

LEAVE OUR HAINEY ALONE MERTZ!

Instead of the simple and sense-making Haniemania he types out "Caleb 'Hania'".

Are you fucking kidding me?

I really missed my calling. This "job" of his requires writing 15 word paragraphs. He must kick these things out in 10 minutes.

On the bright side, you know things are somewhat good when this, of all things, is the big story.

I love that this city can't live without a quarterback controversy. Jay is entrenched, so we all have to argue over which guy will take over if the season is fucked anyway?

The only thing worse than reading a David Haugh column is knowing that your backup QB is the desiccated remains of Todd Collins. I don't care if it's Hanie or Enderle. As long as Todd stays dead and gone.

RV's not feeling the Todd Collia?

Todd Cholera.  (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81b330c0) I know it gave me profuse "watery diarrhea and vomiting."

I was going to laugh at it, but cholera isn't funny. Many Chicagoans suffered from it before they reversed the Chicago River. It caused almost as much suffering to Chicago as Todd Collins.

Quote from: Wheezer on August 18, 2011, 10:10:17 PM
Somehow, I didn't anticipate that reading this (http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.4462) was going to lead back to ACB.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2011, 10:23:54 PM

Quote from: Wheezer on August 18, 2011, 10:10:17 PM
Somehow, I didn't anticipate that reading this (http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.4462) was going to lead back to ACB.

Whoa. (http://www.astro.washington.edu/users/sgoldman/)

Quote from: Wheezer on August 18, 2011, 10:37:13 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2011, 10:23:54 PM

Quote from: Wheezer on August 18, 2011, 10:10:17 PM
Somehow, I didn't anticipate that reading this (http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.4462) was going to lead back to ACB.

Whoa. (http://www.astro.washington.edu/users/sgoldman/)

The giant-framed diplomas are a bit odd, even leaving out the postdoc part. I've been in that building, but I also didn't realize that the sculpture in front is entitled "Everything That Rises (http://www.phys.washington.edu/pab.htm#history)." It's a solid department, don't get me wrong.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 22, 2011, 06:16:45 PM
New ChicagoNOW, same old hilarity (http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-tough/2011/08/rex-ryan-found-dead-of-overdose-at-famous-footwear/).

Quote from: Fork on August 24, 2011, 08:16:02 AM
Oh, for Christ's sake (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-the-east-coast-earthquake-experiencing-forever-in-an-instant/2011/08/23/gIQACpEuZJ_story.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions).

Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2011, 08:10:52 AM
Rick Morrissey, you magnificent bastard.  (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/morrissey/7240846-452/cubs-should-hire-ozzie-guillen-if-they-want-a-real-game-changer.html)

Quote from: CT III on October 16, 2011, 09:50:17 AM
You know, between Phil Rogers and David Haugh, the Trib has become funnier than The Onion.

Anyway, David's got hisself a brilliant plan to turn the Bears around:

Step 1: Hire the football equivalent of Theo Epstein

Step 2: Profit


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-1016-haugh-bears-chicago--20111016,0,7806589.column

Quote from: Bort on October 24, 2011, 09:53:41 PM
Get this weak shit off my track. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1025-cubs-manager--20111025,0,3231868.story)

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
Get Phil Rogers and Seabiscuit's Jockey immortalized on your Kindle! (http://www.amazon.com/When-Theo-Met-Tom-ebook/dp/B00624EXIS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320167303&sr=8-2)

QuoteThe firing of Jim Hendry, the meltdown in Beantown and every other detail you might have missed surrounding the hiring of the world-reknown curse-breaker Theo Epstein.

QuoteIt was my idea, and then I worked with Mark Gonzales, who did a nice job of arranging my thoughts and doing a lot of research.  Mark was invaluable being a writer.  I don't spell very well, and he does a great job of it.  He really did a lot in putting this together, but they are all my words and we didn't do it in the interview format.  I would write a lot of it on yellow legal pads and then I would use a tape recorder.  Next, I would go through the sections by myself and then Mark would get all of the words arrange them and put into writer's speak.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 03:55:29 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
Get Phil Rogers and Seabiscuit's Jockey immortalized on your Kindle! (http://www.amazon.com/When-Theo-Met-Tom-ebook/dp/B00624EXIS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320167303&sr=8-2)

It's the outside scoop, direct to you by internet!

QuoteThe firing of Jim Hendry, the meltdown in Beantown and every other detail you might have missed surrounding the hiring of the world-reknown curse-breaker Theo Epstein.

Wouldn't "every other detail" imply that Hendry's firing and the Red Sox' September swoon are also details they expect readers might have missed?

All this and more!

That said, the Amazon Kindle store has alerted me to an interesting related fact that isn't made clear in their regular store (http://www.amazon.com/Said-Stone-Your-Game-Way/dp/1600785387/): "When Theo Met Tom: A Cubs Story" co-author Mark Gonzales also apparently ghost wrote "Said in Stone: Your Game, My Way." (http://www.amazon.com/Said-in-Stone-ebook/dp/B004R9Q004/)

Indeed, while this fact is not really spelled out on that book's cover, spine or copyright page either, Stoney himself had this much to say (http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/2011/04/14/said-in-stone/):

QuoteIt was my idea, and then I worked with Mark Gonzales, who did a nice job of arranging my thoughts and doing a lot of research.  Mark was invaluable being a writer.  I don't spell very well, and he does a great job of it.  He really did a lot in putting this together, but they are all my words and we didn't do it in the interview format.  I would write a lot of it on yellow legal pads and then I would use a tape recorder.  Next, I would go through the sections by myself and then Mark would get all of the words arrange them and put into writer's speak.

Steve Stone: the thinking man's baseball talking person.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 03:55:29 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
Get Phil Rogers and Seabiscuit's Jockey immortalized on your Kindle! (http://www.amazon.com/When-Theo-Met-Tom-ebook/dp/B00624EXIS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320167303&sr=8-2)

It's the outside scoop, direct to you by internet!

QuoteThe firing of Jim Hendry, the meltdown in Beantown and every other detail you might have missed surrounding the hiring of the world-reknown curse-breaker Theo Epstein.

Wouldn't "every other detail" imply that Hendry's firing and the Red Sox' September swoon are also details they expect readers might have missed?

All this and more!

That said, the Amazon Kindle store has alerted me to an interesting related fact that isn't made clear in their regular store (http://www.amazon.com/Said-Stone-Your-Game-Way/dp/1600785387/): "When Theo Met Tom: A Cubs Story" co-author Mark Gonzales also apparently ghost wrote "Said in Stone: Your Game, My Way." (http://www.amazon.com/Said-in-Stone-ebook/dp/B004R9Q004/)

Indeed, while this fact is not really spelled out on that book's cover, spine or copyright page either, Stoney himself had this much to say (http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/2011/04/14/said-in-stone/):

QuoteIt was my idea, and then I worked with Mark Gonzales, who did a nice job of arranging my thoughts and doing a lot of research.  Mark was invaluable being a writer.  I don't spell very well, and he does a great job of it.  He really did a lot in putting this together, but they are all my words and we didn't do it in the interview format.  I would write a lot of it on yellow legal pads and then I would use a tape recorder.  Next, I would go through the sections by myself and then Mark would get all of the words arrange them and put into writer's speak.

Steve Stone: the thinking man's baseball talking person.

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 03:55:29 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
Get Phil Rogers and Seabiscuit's Jockey immortalized on your Kindle! (http://www.amazon.com/When-Theo-Met-Tom-ebook/dp/B00624EXIS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320167303&sr=8-2)

It's the outside scoop, direct to you by internet!

QuoteThe firing of Jim Hendry, the meltdown in Beantown and every other detail you might have missed surrounding the hiring of the world-reknown curse-breaker Theo Epstein.

Wouldn't "every other detail" imply that Hendry's firing and the Red Sox' September swoon are also details they expect readers might have missed?

All this and more!

That said, the Amazon Kindle store has alerted me to an interesting related fact that isn't made clear in their regular store (http://www.amazon.com/Said-Stone-Your-Game-Way/dp/1600785387/): "When Theo Met Tom: A Cubs Story" co-author Mark Gonzales also apparently ghost wrote "Said in Stone: Your Game, My Way." (http://www.amazon.com/Said-in-Stone-ebook/dp/B004R9Q004/)

Indeed, while this fact is not really spelled out on that book's cover, spine or copyright page either, Stoney himself had this much to say (http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/2011/04/14/said-in-stone/):

QuoteIt was my idea, and then I worked with Mark Gonzales, who did a nice job of arranging my thoughts and doing a lot of research.  Mark was invaluable being a writer.  I don't spell very well, and he does a great job of it.  He really did a lot in putting this together, but they are all my words and we didn't do it in the interview format.  I would write a lot of it on yellow legal pads and then I would use a tape recorder.  Next, I would go through the sections by myself and then Mark would get all of the words arrange them and put into writer's speak.

Steve Stone: the thinking man's baseball talking person.

Funny, Stone's second book (http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Harry-Steve-Stone-Remembers/dp/0878332332/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320186334&sr=8-3) reads a lot like Ryne Sandberg's second autobiography, (http://www.amazon.com/Second-Home-Ryne-Sandberg-Opens/dp/1566250404/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320186434&sr=1-2) which, while it seems to be in the same voice as his HOF speech, seems much different than his first attempt at chronicling his life (http://www.amazon.com/Ryno-Ryne-Sandberg/dp/0809251477/ref=pd_sim_b_2).

Athletes ghost-writing books? Are you going to tell me Santa Claus is not real next?

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 05:49:04 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 03:55:29 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
Get Phil Rogers and Seabiscuit's Jockey immortalized on your Kindle! (http://www.amazon.com/When-Theo-Met-Tom-ebook/dp/B00624EXIS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320167303&sr=8-2)

It's the outside scoop, direct to you by internet!

QuoteThe firing of Jim Hendry, the meltdown in Beantown and every other detail you might have missed surrounding the hiring of the world-reknown curse-breaker Theo Epstein.

Wouldn't "every other detail" imply that Hendry's firing and the Red Sox' September swoon are also details they expect readers might have missed?

All this and more!

That said, the Amazon Kindle store has alerted me to an interesting related fact that isn't made clear in their regular store (http://www.amazon.com/Said-Stone-Your-Game-Way/dp/1600785387/): "When Theo Met Tom: A Cubs Story" co-author Mark Gonzales also apparently ghost wrote "Said in Stone: Your Game, My Way." (http://www.amazon.com/Said-in-Stone-ebook/dp/B004R9Q004/)

Indeed, while this fact is not really spelled out on that book's cover, spine or copyright page either, Stoney himself had this much to say (http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/2011/04/14/said-in-stone/):

QuoteIt was my idea, and then I worked with Mark Gonzales, who did a nice job of arranging my thoughts and doing a lot of research.  Mark was invaluable being a writer.  I don't spell very well, and he does a great job of it.  He really did a lot in putting this together, but they are all my words and we didn't do it in the interview format.  I would write a lot of it on yellow legal pads and then I would use a tape recorder.  Next, I would go through the sections by myself and then Mark would get all of the words arrange them and put into writer's speak.

Steve Stone: the thinking man's baseball talking person.

Funny, Stone's second book (http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Harry-Steve-Stone-Remembers/dp/0878332332/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320186334&sr=8-3) reads a lot like Ryne Sandberg's second autobiography, (http://www.amazon.com/Second-Home-Ryne-Sandberg-Opens/dp/1566250404/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320186434&sr=1-2) which, while it seems to be in the same voice as his HOF speech, seems much different than his first attempt at chronicling his life (http://www.amazon.com/Ryno-Ryne-Sandberg/dp/0809251477/ref=pd_sim_b_2).

Athletes ghost-writing books? Are you going to tell me Santa Claus is not real next?

If you can't find humor in that quote, that's fine.

I think we can all agree, though, that something is amiss here (http://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-War-Years-Vol/dp/B003R3IT0A/).

Quote from: CT III on November 01, 2011, 06:20:48 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 05:49:04 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 03:55:29 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
Get Phil Rogers and Seabiscuit's Jockey immortalized on your Kindle! (http://www.amazon.com/When-Theo-Met-Tom-ebook/dp/B00624EXIS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320167303&sr=8-2)

It's the outside scoop, direct to you by internet!

QuoteThe firing of Jim Hendry, the meltdown in Beantown and every other detail you might have missed surrounding the hiring of the world-reknown curse-breaker Theo Epstein.

Wouldn't "every other detail" imply that Hendry's firing and the Red Sox' September swoon are also details they expect readers might have missed?

All this and more!

That said, the Amazon Kindle store has alerted me to an interesting related fact that isn't made clear in their regular store (http://www.amazon.com/Said-Stone-Your-Game-Way/dp/1600785387/): "When Theo Met Tom: A Cubs Story" co-author Mark Gonzales also apparently ghost wrote "Said in Stone: Your Game, My Way." (http://www.amazon.com/Said-in-Stone-ebook/dp/B004R9Q004/)

Indeed, while this fact is not really spelled out on that book's cover, spine or copyright page either, Stoney himself had this much to say (http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/2011/04/14/said-in-stone/):

QuoteIt was my idea, and then I worked with Mark Gonzales, who did a nice job of arranging my thoughts and doing a lot of research.  Mark was invaluable being a writer.  I don't spell very well, and he does a great job of it.  He really did a lot in putting this together, but they are all my words and we didn't do it in the interview format.  I would write a lot of it on yellow legal pads and then I would use a tape recorder.  Next, I would go through the sections by myself and then Mark would get all of the words arrange them and put into writer's speak.

Steve Stone: the thinking man's baseball talking person.

Funny, Stone's second book (http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Harry-Steve-Stone-Remembers/dp/0878332332/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320186334&sr=8-3) reads a lot like Ryne Sandberg's second autobiography, (http://www.amazon.com/Second-Home-Ryne-Sandberg-Opens/dp/1566250404/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320186434&sr=1-2) which, while it seems to be in the same voice as his HOF speech, seems much different than his first attempt at chronicling his life (http://www.amazon.com/Ryno-Ryne-Sandberg/dp/0809251477/ref=pd_sim_b_2).

Athletes ghost-writing books? Are you going to tell me Santa Claus is not real next?

If you can't find humor in that quote, that's fine.

I think we can all agree, though, that something is amiss here (http://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-War-Years-Vol/dp/B003R3IT0A/).

There's nothing wrong with an athlete having a writer help him get his thoughts on paper.  What I do enjoy is the fact that Stone is so goddamn arrogant and smarmy he has to mock Gonzales in the act of admitting that even the Great Steve Stone needs some help.

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 10:28:34 PM

Quote from: CT III on November 01, 2011, 06:20:48 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 05:49:04 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 03:55:29 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
Get Phil Rogers and Seabiscuit's Jockey immortalized on your Kindle! (http://www.amazon.com/When-Theo-Met-Tom-ebook/dp/B00624EXIS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320167303&sr=8-2)

It's the outside scoop, direct to you by internet!

QuoteThe firing of Jim Hendry, the meltdown in Beantown and every other detail you might have missed surrounding the hiring of the world-reknown curse-breaker Theo Epstein.

Wouldn't "every other detail" imply that Hendry's firing and the Red Sox' September swoon are also details they expect readers might have missed?

All this and more!

That said, the Amazon Kindle store has alerted me to an interesting related fact that isn't made clear in their regular store (http://www.amazon.com/Said-Stone-Your-Game-Way/dp/1600785387/): "When Theo Met Tom: A Cubs Story" co-author Mark Gonzales also apparently ghost wrote "Said in Stone: Your Game, My Way." (http://www.amazon.com/Said-in-Stone-ebook/dp/B004R9Q004/)

Indeed, while this fact is not really spelled out on that book's cover, spine or copyright page either, Stoney himself had this much to say (http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/2011/04/14/said-in-stone/):

QuoteIt was my idea, and then I worked with Mark Gonzales, who did a nice job of arranging my thoughts and doing a lot of research.  Mark was invaluable being a writer.  I don't spell very well, and he does a great job of it.  He really did a lot in putting this together, but they are all my words and we didn't do it in the interview format.  I would write a lot of it on yellow legal pads and then I would use a tape recorder.  Next, I would go through the sections by myself and then Mark would get all of the words arrange them and put into writer's speak.

Steve Stone: the thinking man's baseball talking person.

Funny, Stone's second book (http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Harry-Steve-Stone-Remembers/dp/0878332332/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320186334&sr=8-3) reads a lot like Ryne Sandberg's second autobiography, (http://www.amazon.com/Second-Home-Ryne-Sandberg-Opens/dp/1566250404/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320186434&sr=1-2) which, while it seems to be in the same voice as his HOF speech, seems much different than his first attempt at chronicling his life (http://www.amazon.com/Ryno-Ryne-Sandberg/dp/0809251477/ref=pd_sim_b_2).

Athletes ghost-writing books? Are you going to tell me Santa Claus is not real next?

If you can't find humor in that quote, that's fine.

I think we can all agree, though, that something is amiss here (http://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-War-Years-Vol/dp/B003R3IT0A/).

There's nothing wrong with an athlete having a writer help him get his thoughts on paper.  What I do enjoy is the fact that Stone is so goddamn arrogant and smarmy he has to mock Gonzales in the act of admitting that even the Great Steve Stone needs some help.

No, I found the humor, I was just marveling at the fact Stone has three ghost writers for three books.

Quote from: PANK! on November 14, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
I don't know who Sue Gelber is--or whom she must know at the Tribune-- but  this ham-handed awfulness (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-perspec-1113-chicago-20111113,0,1228987.story)should never have seen the light of day.

Quote from: PANK! on November 14, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
I don't know who Sue Gelber is--or who she must know at the Tribune-- but  this ham-handed awfulness (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-perspec-1113-chicago-20111113,0,1228987.story)should never have seen the light of day.

Quote from: Brownie on November 14, 2011, 02:02:41 PM

Quote from: PANK! on November 14, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
I don't know who Sue Gelber is--or whom she must know at the Tribune-- but  this ham-handed awfulness (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-perspec-1113-chicago-20111113,0,1228987.story)should never have seen the light of day.

Copy edited for your pleasure.

She's a transplanted New Englander living in Winnetka. Probably down the street from Sec. 242.

QuoteWhen you come with somebody and venture out on the roads, be careful. They don't know how to drive here. They stop at stop signs, yield when they're supposed to, and when the traffic light turns yellow, they slow down instead of speeding up. Fortunately, there's one spot that will seem like home: the Kennedy Expressway. Whenever you get homesick, just navigate to the highway and within seconds you'll see people tailgating, weaving through traffic or cutting up the side. It may just bring a tear to your eye.

Quote from: PANK! on November 14, 2011, 02:08:42 PM

Quote from: Brownie on November 14, 2011, 02:02:41 PM

Quote from: PANK! on November 14, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
I don't know who Sue Gelber is--or whom she must know at the Tribune-- but  this ham-handed awfulness (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-perspec-1113-chicago-20111113,0,1228987.story)should never have seen the light of day.

Copy edited for your pleasure.

She's a transplanted New Englander living in Winnetka. Probably down the street from Sec. 242.

I had my suspicions that she didn't live in the city proper when I read this line:

QuoteWhen you come with somebody and venture out on the roads, be careful. They don't know how to drive here. They stop at stop signs, yield when they're supposed to, and when the traffic light turns yellow, they slow down instead of speeding up. Fortunately, there's one spot that will seem like home: the Kennedy Expressway. Whenever you get homesick, just navigate to the highway and within seconds you'll see people tailgating, weaving through traffic or cutting up the side. It may just bring a tear to your eye.

No sooner could I think "Who in the fuck is she crapping?" did I decide to flip to the end, to her bio, to see that she lived in leafy Winnetka.  I mean, maybe somebody once ran the yellow at Tower and Green Bay Road, but I don't think it's fair to compare suburban traffic to an east coast city's.  The fact that her only exposure to city driving is around Hubbard's Cave, as she's heading back East no doubt serves to further demonstrate how insulated she is and, thus, UNQUALIFIED FOR MEATBALL STATUS.

Quote from: PANK! on November 14, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
I don't know who Sue Gelber is--or who she must know at the Tribune-- but  this ham-handed awfulness (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-perspec-1113-chicago-20111113,0,1228987.story)should never have seen the light of day.

Quote from: PANK! on November 14, 2011, 02:08:42 PM
No sooner could I think "Who in the fuck is she crapping?" did I decide to flip to the end, to her bio, to see that she lived in leafy Winnetka.  I mean, maybe somebody once ran the yellow at Tower and Green Bay Road, but I don't think it's fair to compare suburban traffic to an east coast city's.  The fact that her only exposure to city driving is around Hubbard's Cave, as she's heading back East no doubt serves to further demonstrate how insulated she is and, thus, UNQUALIFIED FOR MEATBALL STATUS.

Quote from: BBM on November 28, 2011, 11:03:09 AM
NFL should more or less go to two hand touch[/url 

Barnwell is usually unreadable as is.  But he totally stepped his game up.
(http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7289559/calling-interference-pass-interference)

Quote from: morpheus on November 28, 2011, 11:09:06 AM

Quote from: BBM on November 28, 2011, 11:03:09 AM
NFL should more or less go to two hand touch[/url 

Barnwell is usually unreadable as is.  But he totally stepped his game up.
(http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7289559/calling-interference-pass-interference)

Jesus.  Personally I don't even think that what Louis did should be considered a "horse-collar" since he did it using the jersey and spun the guy down in a circle rather than pulling straight back inside the shoulder pads.

Quote from: Slaky on November 28, 2011, 01:30:47 PM

Quote from: morpheus on November 28, 2011, 11:09:06 AM

Quote from: BBM on November 28, 2011, 11:03:09 AM
NFL should more or less go to two hand touch[/url 

Barnwell is usually unreadable as is.  But he totally stepped his game up.
(http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7289559/calling-interference-pass-interference)

Jesus.  Personally I don't even think that what Louis did should be considered a "horse-collar" since he did it using the jersey and spun the guy down in a circle rather than pulling straight back inside the shoulder pads.

Bill Barnwell continues his streak of pointless, whiny articles.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 02, 2011, 10:57:20 AM
David Huh thinks McNabb is the answer for the Bears. That is all.

Quote from: CBStew on December 02, 2011, 05:09:24 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 02, 2011, 10:57:20 AM
David Huh thinks McNabb is the answer for the Bears. That is all.

He is probably correct, if you ask the right question.  Such as, "How can we improve the Bears' position in the 2012 draft?"

Quote from: morpheus on January 05, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Big Z takes his talents to MOUTH BEACH. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-zambrano-will-show-ozzie-whos-crazy-20120105,0,783995.column)

Quote from: Slaky on January 05, 2012, 02:14:33 PM

Quote from: morpheus on January 05, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Big Z takes his talents to MOUTH BEACH. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-zambrano-will-show-ozzie-whos-crazy-20120105,0,783995.column)

Goddamn you for linking to Rosenbloom.

Quote from: Tonker on January 20, 2012, 02:55:25 AM
Sweet Jesus, this (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/story/2012/01/19/sp-mlb-epstein-cubs-fergie-jenkins.html) article is jam-packed with stupid.  I guess I wouldn't expect anything less from Canadonians.  Fergie Jenkins, God love him, needs to think before flapping his fucking yapper.

Quote from: Fork on January 20, 2012, 08:24:43 AM

Quote from: Tonker on January 20, 2012, 02:55:25 AM
Sweet Jesus, this (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/story/2012/01/19/sp-mlb-epstein-cubs-fergie-jenkins.html) article is jam-packed with stupid.  I guess I wouldn't expect anything less from Canadonians.  Fergie Jenkins, God love him, needs to think before flapping his fucking yapper.

I'm guessing the jury will be in the minute Theo puts Fergie on his calendar.

Quote from: Tonker on January 20, 2012, 02:55:25 AM
Sweet Jesus, this (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/story/2012/01/19/sp-mlb-epstein-cubs-fergie-jenkins.html) article is jam-packed with stupid.  I guess I wouldn't expect anything less from Canadonians.  Fergie Jenkins, God love him, needs to think before flapping his fucking yapper.

QuoteJenkins takes pride in the number of Canadians in Major League Baseball now and singles out Cubs pitcher Ryan Dempster and New York Mets outfielder Jason Bay as possible players who could join him in Canada's Sports Hall of Fame in the future.

Quote from: morpheus on January 20, 2012, 08:37:06 AM

Quote from: Tonker on January 20, 2012, 02:55:25 AM
Sweet Jesus, this (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/story/2012/01/19/sp-mlb-epstein-cubs-fergie-jenkins.html) article is jam-packed with stupid.  I guess I wouldn't expect anything less from Canadonians.  Fergie Jenkins, God love him, needs to think before flapping his fucking yapper.

QuoteJenkins takes pride in the number of Canadians in Major League Baseball now and singles out Cubs pitcher Ryan Dempster and New York Mets outfielder Jason Bay as possible players who could join him in Canada's Sports Hall of Fame in the future.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 20, 2012, 09:33:01 AM


The Canadian Sports Hall of Fame is truly an august institution.

I rank it next to my monthy edition of Greatest Jewish Sports Legends.

Quote from: Fork on January 20, 2012, 10:49:47 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 20, 2012, 09:33:01 AM


The Canadian Sports Hall of Fame is truly an august institution.

I rank it next to my monthy edition of Greatest Jewish Sports Legends.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2yl1k0i.jpg)

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 20, 2012, 10:32:14 AM
How about Greatest Canadian Jewish Sports Legends?

    Murray Bannerman, ice hockey, goaltender (NHL)
    Maxie Berger, boxer, wore a Star of David on his trunks[54]
    Ross Brooks, ice hockey, goaltender (NHL)
    Hy Buller, ice hockey, Canadian-born US, All-Star defenceman (NHL)
    Michael Cammalleri, ice hockey, left wing (Montreal Canadiens) Calgary Flames
  Steve Dubinsky, ice hockey, center (NHL)
    Sharon Fichman, tennis player[58]
    Cecil Hart, Montreal Canadiens coach[60], namesake of the Hart Memorial Trophy
    Corey Hirsch, ice hockey, goaltender (NHL)
    Max Labovitch, ice hockey, right wing (NHL)[63]
    Alex Levinsky, ice hockey, defenceman (NHL)
    Sammy Luftspring, boxer, Canadian champion welterweight, Canada's Sports Hall of Fame
    David Nemirovsky, ice hockey, right wing (CSKA Moscow)
    Goody Rosen, baseball player, outfielder, All-Star
    Stephen Weiss, ice hockey, forward (Florida Panthers, NHL)[68]
    Adam Stern, baseball player, outfielder
    Andrew Sznajder, tennis player
    Bernie Wolfe, ice hockey, goaltender (NHL)
    Larry Zeidel, ice hockey, defenceman (NHL)

Quote from: Fork on January 20, 2012, 10:49:47 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 20, 2012, 09:33:01 AM


The Canadian Sports Hall of Fame is truly an august institution.

I rank it next to my monthy edition of Greatest Jewish Sports Legends.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2yl1k0i.jpg)

Quote from: Brownie on January 20, 2012, 12:51:55 PM


(http://www.ragemonthly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Steve-Nash-1.jpg)

Quote from: Fork on January 20, 2012, 02:20:30 PM

Quote from: Brownie on January 20, 2012, 12:51:55 PM


(http://www.ragemonthly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Steve-Nash-1.jpg)

How did Jackie Earle Haley get in there?

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

QuoteIt seems Cutler's blank-faced nothingness must affect those around him. It certainly has affected certain professional people who have had contact with him and have wanted nothing more than a simple smile or ''hello.''

''He's a sh--,'' says one member of the Bears' extended staff, a man who wishes to remain anonymous. ''You see him, and he doesn't even acknowledge your presence.''

QuoteTo wit, Cutler and his back-again Hollywood girlfirend, Kristin Cavallari, ''are pregnant,'' and a baby is due sometime in late summer. There is no wedding news, of course, because that is the Hollywood way.

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Zomething different?

QuoteIt seems Cutler's blank-faced nothingness must affect those around him. It certainly has affected certain professional people who have had contact with him and have wanted nothing more than a simple smile or ''hello.''

''He's a sh--,'' says one member of the Bears' extended staff, a man who wishes to remain anonymous. ''You see him, and he doesn't even acknowledge your presence.''

It's Mike McCaskey.

QuoteTo wit, Cutler and his back-again Hollywood girlfirend, Kristin Cavallari, ''are pregnant,'' and a baby is due sometime in late summer. There is no wedding news, of course, because that is the Hollywood way.

Why is "are pregnant" in quotes?

Nobody tell Rick that Brady had a child out of wedlock with a Hollywood-type starlet while banging a supermodel on the side.

It'll kill him.

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Quote from: BH on January 26, 2012, 07:56:39 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Matt Stafford is an elite quarterback now?

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2012, 08:21:47 AM

Quote from: BH on January 26, 2012, 07:56:39 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Matt Stafford is an elite quarterback now?

5,038 yards and 41 touchdown passes? I'd say so.

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2012, 08:21:47 AM

Quote from: BH on January 26, 2012, 07:56:39 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Matt Stafford is an elite quarterback now?

5,038 yards and 41 touchdown passes? I'd say so.

Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2012, 09:06:55 AM

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2012, 08:21:47 AM

Quote from: BH on January 26, 2012, 07:56:39 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Matt Stafford is an elite quarterback now?

5,038 yards and 41 touchdown passes? I'd say so.

Yeah, those stats are nice, but the real issue here is that he's got "zazz".

Quote from: Slaky on January 26, 2012, 09:40:55 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2012, 09:06:55 AM

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2012, 08:21:47 AM

Quote from: BH on January 26, 2012, 07:56:39 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Matt Stafford is an elite quarterback now?

5,038 yards and 41 touchdown passes? I'd say so.

Yeah, those stats are nice, but the real issue here is that he's got "zazz".

Let me know when Cutler finds that something. We don't know what it is but when he finds it, which I doubt he will, maybe he could be elite.

Side note: when comparing Stafford to Cutler it's only fair to omit any mention of Calvin Johnson, who had very little impact on Stafford's numbers as a passer.

Quote from: BH on January 26, 2012, 09:53:57 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 26, 2012, 09:40:55 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 26, 2012, 09:06:55 AM

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2012, 08:21:47 AM

Quote from: BH on January 26, 2012, 07:56:39 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Matt Stafford is an elite quarterback now?

5,038 yards and 41 touchdown passes? I'd say so.

Yeah, those stats are nice, but the real issue here is that he's got "zazz".

Let me know when Cutler finds that something. We don't know what it is but when he finds it, which I doubt he will, maybe he could be elite.

Side note: when comparing Stafford to Cutler it's only fair to omit any mention of Calvin Johnson, who had very little impact on Stafford's numbers as a passer.

Stafford's girlfriend is better looking.

Quote from: PANK! on January 25, 2012, 07:34:01 PM

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Zomething different?

QuoteIt seems Cutler's blank-faced nothingness must affect those around him. It certainly has affected certain professional people who have had contact with him and have wanted nothing more than a simple smile or ''hello.''

''He's a sh--,'' says one member of the Bears' extended staff, a man who wishes to remain anonymous. ''You see him, and he doesn't even acknowledge your presence.''

It's Mike McCaskey.

QuoteTo wit, Cutler and his back-again Hollywood girlfirend, Kristin Cavallari, ''are pregnant,'' and a baby is due sometime in late summer. There is no wedding news, of course, because that is the Hollywood way.

Why is "are pregnant" in quotes?

Nobody tell Rick that Brady had a child out of wedlock with a Hollywood-type starlet while banging a supermodel on the side.

It'll kill him.

I meant to bring this up.  Having just finished my latest Bill Bryson book, and faced with the prospect of nothing to read for my train ride this morning, I splurged on a rare purchase of a Sun-Times and this was the thanks I got.  So, so, criminally dumb and pointless.

Nice partial fisking by Deadspin BTW. (http://deadspin.com/5879353/jay-cutler-is-not-a-winner-because-he-doesnt-smile-at-bears-employees-writes-crazy-person)

Quote from: PANK! on January 25, 2012, 07:34:01 PM

Quote from: CT III on January 25, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
SKO needs to read this:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10214074-419/jay-cutler-is-missing-the-extra-something-best-qbs-have.html

QuoteBut what's more troubling is that when compared to quarterbacks such as Brady and Manning — or Rodgers, Brees and maybe even Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ''something.''

Zomething different?

QuoteIt seems Cutler's blank-faced nothingness must affect those around him. It certainly has affected certain professional people who have had contact with him and have wanted nothing more than a simple smile or ''hello.''

''He's a sh--,'' says one member of the Bears' extended staff, a man who wishes to remain anonymous. ''You see him, and he doesn't even acknowledge your presence.''

It's Mike McCaskey.

QuoteTo wit, Cutler and his back-again Hollywood girlfirend, Kristin Cavallari, ''are pregnant,'' and a baby is due sometime in late summer. There is no wedding news, of course, because that is the Hollywood way.

Why is "are pregnant" in quotes?

Nobody tell Rick that Brady had a child out of wedlock with a Hollywood-type starlet while banging a supermodel on the side.

It'll kill him.

I meant to bring this up.  Having just finished my latest Bill Bryson book, and faced with the prospect of nothing to read for my train ride this morning, I splurged on a rare purchase of a Sun-Times and this was the thanks I got.  So, so, criminally dumb and pointless.

Nice partial fisking by Deadspin BTW. (http://deadspin.com/5879353/jay-cutler-is-not-a-winner-because-he-doesnt-smile-at-bears-employees-writes-crazy-person)

Quote from: PenPho on March 01, 2012, 11:07:39 AM
ESPN obviously didn't learn their lesson after the "Chink in the armor" issue.

(http://oi55.tinypic.com/24d4xvt.jpg)

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 05, 2012, 05:16:21 PM
David DeJesus and the god Thor or Theo or something.[url]
(http://www.suntimes.com/mobile/11720005-463/faith-of-the-franchise-theo-epstein-is-the-star-attraction.html)

Quote from: Internet Apex on May 18, 2012, 05:23:58 PM
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?action=profile;u=2730;sa=showPosts

Quote from: Wheezer on May 25, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
Time to strengthen the paywall? (http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/news/2512-mike-north-joins-the-daily-herald-as-a-columnist)

Quote from: Wheezer on May 25, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
Time to strengthen the paywall? (http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/news/2512-mike-north-joins-the-daily-herald-as-a-columnist)

QuoteAdditionally, work is progressing rapidly on a biography and screenplay of Mike North's colorful life story. The story is being written by Max Allan Collins, the American author best known for the 1998 graphic novel "Road to Perdition" and the 2002 Academy Award winning film of the same name starring Tom Hanks.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 25, 2012, 08:49:25 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on May 25, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
Time to strengthen the paywall? (http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/news/2512-mike-north-joins-the-daily-herald-as-a-columnist)

Oh, Lord...

QuoteAdditionally, work is progressing rapidly on a biography and screenplay of Mike North's colorful life story. The story is being written by Max Allan Collins, the American author best known for the 1998 graphic novel "Road to Perdition" and the 2002 Academy Award winning film of the same name starring Tom Hanks.

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogs
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Quote from: Internet Apex on May 25, 2012, 08:50:49 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 25, 2012, 08:49:25 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on May 25, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
Time to strengthen the paywall? (http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/news/2512-mike-north-joins-the-daily-herald-as-a-columnist)

Oh, Lord...

QuoteAdditionally, work is progressing rapidly on a biography and screenplay of Mike North's colorful life story. The story is being written by Max Allan Collins, the American author best known for the 1998 graphic novel "Road to Perdition" and the 2002 Academy Award winning film of the same name starring Tom Hanks.

God, I hope this happens.

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Well now it is'd.


*Yes that was a claim to fame for him.  Oh, how humiliating?

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Well now it is'd.


*Yes that was a claim to fame for him.  Oh, how humiliating?

Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on May 25, 2012, 10:33:29 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Well now it is'd.


*Yes that was a claim to fame for him.  Oh, how humiliating?

He reminded everyone that he sold hot dogs?

Quote from: CT III on May 25, 2012, 10:39:58 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Well now it is'd.


*Yes that was a claim to fame for him.  Oh, how humiliating?

I believe it was a trumpet.

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:52:44 AM

Quote from: CT III on May 25, 2012, 10:39:58 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Well now it is'd.


*Yes that was a claim to fame for him.  Oh, how humiliating?

I believe it was a trumpet.

It was, my bad.  And this makes you CT, the POSTER OF THE DAY!

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogs
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Quote from: CT III on May 25, 2012, 11:11:38 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:52:44 AM

Quote from: CT III on May 25, 2012, 10:39:58 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Well now it is'd.


*Yes that was a claim to fame for him.  Oh, how humiliating?

I believe it was a trumpet.

It was, my bad.  And this makes you CT, the POSTER OF THE DAY!

TO ABBEY'S OLD DRAWERS!

Quote from: Bort on May 25, 2012, 11:29:09 AM

Quote from: CT III on May 25, 2012, 11:11:38 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:52:44 AM

Quote from: CT III on May 25, 2012, 10:39:58 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Well now it is'd.


*Yes that was a claim to fame for him.  Oh, how humiliating?

I believe it was a trumpet.

It was, my bad.  And this makes you CT, the POSTER OF THE DAY!

TO ABBEY'S OLD DRAWERS!

TO THE BEEMOBILE!

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 25, 2012, 11:41:31 AM

Quote from: Bort on May 25, 2012, 11:29:09 AM

Quote from: CT III on May 25, 2012, 11:11:38 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:52:44 AM

Quote from: CT III on May 25, 2012, 10:39:58 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 25, 2012, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
1. Sell hot dogsPlay the saxamaphone as a young adult in the bleachers in 1969*
2. Get a radio gig and remind everyone how you used to sell hot dogs
3. Profit?

That's the Murph life story, no?

Well now it is'd.


*Yes that was a claim to fame for him.  Oh, how humiliating?

I believe it was a trumpet.

It was, my bad.  And this makes you CT, the POSTER OF THE DAY!

TO ABBEY'S OLD DRAWERS!

TO THE BEEMOBILE!

You mean your Chevy?

Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2012, 10:18:33 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on May 25, 2012, 08:50:49 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 25, 2012, 08:49:25 AM

Quote from: Wheezer on May 25, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
Time to strengthen the paywall? (http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/news/2512-mike-north-joins-the-daily-herald-as-a-columnist)

Oh, Lord...

QuoteAdditionally, work is progressing rapidly on a biography and screenplay of Mike North's colorful life story. The story is being written by Max Allan Collins, the American author best known for the 1998 graphic novel "Road to Perdition" and the 2002 Academy Award winning film of the same name starring Tom Hanks.

God, I hope this happens.

DPD. 

Indeed.  One can only hope that Jim Belushi's agent is blowing up the lines of communication here...

Quote"We aim to do this by making sure we deliver a product that you're willing to pay 25 cents a day for," he said, noting that on the tables at the restaurant where the club met there were copies of the Sun-Times plus a business card that had a quarter taped to it.
The newspaper is planning added sports coverage, particularly on Sundays when it will provide rankings for professional, college and high school sports teams, covering the Chicago area and northwest Indiana. He also noted that he has also started a "Game Face" feature with photos from sporting events.
The celebrity column called the "Daily Splash" will feature actors, writers and entertainers from Chicago who don't necessarily live in the city anymore, such as singer-actress Jennifer Hudson, actor Jim Belushi, and author Suze Orman. The column will start on Monday with a write-up by actor Gary Sinise.

Quote from: PenPho on June 15, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
White prospects work hard like *this*, black prospects are lazy like *this.* (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/bryce-harper-conservative-hero/)

Quote from: Eli on June 18, 2012, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: PenPho on June 15, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
White prospects work hard like *this*, black prospects are lazy like *this.* (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/bryce-harper-conservative-hero/)

Charles P. Pierce destroys (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bryce-harper-9805894) the column. Rightfully so.

My favorite part of the original article was in the comments when someone pointed out that Harper -- conservative hero that he is -- was acquired by the Nats after they finished last and were given the No. 1 pick, essentially a socialist redistribution of talent.

Quote from: PenPho on June 18, 2012, 01:55:39 PM

Quote from: Eli on June 18, 2012, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: PenPho on June 15, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
White prospects work hard like *this*, black prospects are lazy like *this.* (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/bryce-harper-conservative-hero/)

Charles P. Pierce destroys (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bryce-harper-9805894) the column. Rightfully so.

My favorite part of the original article was in the comments when someone pointed out that Harper -- conservative hero that he is -- was acquired by the Nats after they finished last and were given the No. 1 pick, essentially a socialist redistribution of talent.

You know, we talk about this stuff in the SBox all the damn time. (http://hje.me/sbox//dlog.php?highlight=p144224217&date=2012-6-15#p144224217)

You should come over. 

Quote from: Eli on June 18, 2012, 02:03:19 PM

Quote from: PenPho on June 18, 2012, 01:55:39 PM

Quote from: Eli on June 18, 2012, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: PenPho on June 15, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
White prospects work hard like *this*, black prospects are lazy like *this.* (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/bryce-harper-conservative-hero/)

Charles P. Pierce destroys (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bryce-harper-9805894) the column. Rightfully so.

My favorite part of the original article was in the comments when someone pointed out that Harper -- conservative hero that he is -- was acquired by the Nats after they finished last and were given the No. 1 pick, essentially a socialist redistribution of talent.

You know, we talk about this stuff in the SBox all the damn time. (http://hje.me/sbox//dlog.php?highlight=p144224217&date=2012-6-15#p144224217)

You should come over. 

Is that an actual invitation, or are you just chiding me for not cross-checking Desipio, Jr. before posting something here?

Quote from: PenPho on June 18, 2012, 01:55:39 PM

Quote from: Eli on June 18, 2012, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: PenPho on June 15, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
White prospects work hard like *this*, black prospects are lazy like *this.* (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/bryce-harper-conservative-hero/)

Charles P. Pierce destroys (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bryce-harper-9805894) the column. Rightfully so.

My favorite part of the original article was in the comments when someone pointed out that Harper -- conservative hero that he is -- was acquired by the Nats after they finished last and were given the No. 1 pick, essentially a socialist redistribution of talent.

You know, we talk about this stuff in the SBox all the damn time. (http://hje.me/sbox//dlog.php?highlight=p144224217&date=2012-6-15#p144224217)

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 18, 2012, 02:40:41 PM

Quote from: PenPho on June 18, 2012, 01:55:39 PM

Quote from: Eli on June 18, 2012, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: PenPho on June 15, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
White prospects work hard like *this*, black prospects are lazy like *this.* (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/bryce-harper-conservative-hero/)

Charles P. Pierce destroys (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bryce-harper-9805894) the column. Rightfully so.

My favorite part of the original article was in the comments when someone pointed out that Harper -- conservative hero that he is -- was acquired by the Nats after they finished last and were given the No. 1 pick, essentially a socialist redistribution of talent.

You know, we talk about this stuff in the SBox all the damn time. (http://hje.me/sbox//dlog.php?highlight=p144224217&date=2012-6-15#p144224217)

Or, we try to. (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p144279782&date=2012-6-18#p144279782)

SPORTZ!

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2012, 12:14:05 PM
Turner is in talks to buy Bleacher Report for $200MM. Good luck with that.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 21, 2012, 12:52:47 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2012, 12:14:05 PM
Turner is in talks to buy Bleacher Report for $200MM. Good luck with that.

Relevant slideshow. (http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,3253,l%253D230657%2526a%253D230658%2526po%253D42,00.asp)

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2012, 01:54:39 PM
Looking at you, Adrianna.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 21, 2012, 02:29:52 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2012, 01:54:39 PM
Looking at you, Adrianna.

Unless you're looking at some pics of Adriana Lima'd

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 21, 2012, 02:29:52 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2012, 01:54:39 PM
Looking at you, Adrianna.

Unless you're looking at some pics of Adriana Lima'd

Quote27. "81 percent of women do not want you to attempt anal sex without asking."
An unexpected loss for Team Surprise Anal.

Quote30. "Remember that chores around the house count as foreplay... when you do them, that is."
Yes, because when she does them, it counts as a woman doing the work she's goddamn supposed to be doing.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 01, 2012, 02:17:10 PM
36 Terrible Sex Tips for Men courtesy of Men's Health Magazine. http://www.nerve.com/advice/ridiculous-tips/the-36-most-ridiculous-sex-tips-from-emmens-health-em-and-emmaxim-em (http://www.nerve.com/advice/ridiculous-tips/the-36-most-ridiculous-sex-tips-from-emmens-health-em-and-emmaxim-em)

Some favorites, with commentary from Nerve.com:

Quote27. "81 percent of women do not want you to attempt anal sex without asking."
An unexpected loss for Team Surprise Anal.

Quote30. "Remember that chores around the house count as foreplay... when you do them, that is."
Yes, because when she does them, it counts as a woman doing the work she's goddamn supposed to be doing.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 01, 2012, 04:21:08 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 01, 2012, 02:17:10 PM
36 Terrible Sex Tips for Men courtesy of Men's Health Magazine. http://www.nerve.com/advice/ridiculous-tips/the-36-most-ridiculous-sex-tips-from-emmens-health-em-and-emmaxim-em (http://www.nerve.com/advice/ridiculous-tips/the-36-most-ridiculous-sex-tips-from-emmens-health-em-and-emmaxim-em)

Some favorites, with commentary from Nerve.com:

Quote27. "81 percent of women do not want you to attempt anal sex without asking."
An unexpected loss for Team Surprise Anal.

Quote30. "Remember that chores around the house count as foreplay... when you do them, that is."
Yes, because when she does them, it counts as a woman doing the work she's goddamn supposed to be doing.

Brilliant tips. I hope BC is reading them.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 01, 2012, 05:44:54 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 01, 2012, 04:21:08 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 01, 2012, 02:17:10 PM
36 Terrible Sex Tips for Men courtesy of Men's Health Magazine. http://www.nerve.com/advice/ridiculous-tips/the-36-most-ridiculous-sex-tips-from-emmens-health-em-and-emmaxim-em (http://www.nerve.com/advice/ridiculous-tips/the-36-most-ridiculous-sex-tips-from-emmens-health-em-and-emmaxim-em)

Some favorites, with commentary from Nerve.com:

Quote27. "81 percent of women do not want you to attempt anal sex without asking."
An unexpected loss for Team Surprise Anal.

Quote30. "Remember that chores around the house count as foreplay... when you do them, that is."
Yes, because when she does them, it counts as a woman doing the work she's goddamn supposed to be doing.

Brilliant tips. I hope BC is reading them.

I'm sure he has a subscription to Men's Health

Quote
CHAT WITH A WRIGLEY STAPLE Uber-fan and blogger (he runs the "Bleed Cubbie Blue" blog) Al Yellon has missed only a couple dozen Cubs home games since 1997 and hasn't missed one in four years. Find him in his season seat down the left-field line just steps from the foul pole, and ask him about his favorite moments at the Friendly Confines. But not while there's action on the field — he keeps a sharp scorecard.

Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2012, 09:10:01 PM
Crain's tells you what to do when the action on the field at Wrigley isn't making you suicidal enough. (http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20120804/ISSUE03/308049983/when-the-game-isnt-enough-10-great-distractions-at-chicagos-ballparks)

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CHAT WITH A WRIGLEY STAPLE Uber-fan and blogger (he runs the "Bleed Cubbie Blue" blog) Al Yellon has missed only a couple dozen Cubs home games since 1997 and hasn't missed one in four years. Find him in his season seat down the left-field line just steps from the foul pole, and ask him about his favorite moments at the Friendly Confines. But not while there's action on the field — he keeps a sharp scorecard.

Quote from:  The first two paragraphs of Dan Pompei's article todayBOURBONNAIS — If Charles Darwin were around to study these Bears, he surely would come up with a theory because things evidently are evolving on the campus of Olivet Nazarene University the way he determined things were on the Galapagos Islands.

Yes, it seems one species can evolve into another, even the Ursus family.

Quote from: PANK! on August 17, 2012, 05:38:18 PM
I'll take "Tortured Analogies" for $500, Alex. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-spt-0817-bears-pompei-chicago--20120817,0,1419797.column)

Quote from:  The first two paragraphs of Dan Pompei's article todayBOURBONNAIS — If Charles Darwin were around to study these Bears, he surely would come up with a theory because things evidently are evolving on the campus of Olivet Nazarene University the way he determined things were on the Galapagos Islands.

Yes, it seems one species can evolve into another, even the Ursus family.

Quote from: Brownie on August 06, 2012, 09:10:01 PM
Crain's tells you what to do when the action on the field at Wrigley isn't making you suicidal enough. (http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20120804/ISSUE03/308049983/when-the-game-isnt-enough-10-great-distractions-at-chicagos-ballparks)

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CHAT WITH A WRIGLEY STAPLE Uber-fan and blogger (he runs the "Bleed Cubbie Blue" blog) Al Yellon has missed only a couple dozen Cubs home games since 1997 and hasn't missed one in four years. Find him in his season seat down the left-field line just steps from the foul pole, and ask him about his favorite moments at the Friendly Confines. But not while there's action on the field — he keeps a sharp scorecard.

QuoteKummel is consumed in large quantities (mainly in golf clubs) across Europe and notably the UK with suppliers main focus in Scotland where its marketed as an after dinner liqueur. The smoothness and the natural release of jubilation involved in consumption has led to some golfers using it to enhance their golf game by taking a couple of mouthfuls before a round to relax first tee nerves. Some may even indulge in a streak or bullet which are a mix of kummel and vodka or gin respectively endorsed by top selling brand Wolfschmidt. The latter are normally reserved for the golfers with high anxiety on the first tee or those who have been duly fined for pre set out reasons in the annual Kummel Invitational held twice a year at The Nairn Golf Club and once at a specially selected 'away tour' course.[/url]

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

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Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 29, 2012, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Maybe he was using the balls to set up the strikes.

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 10:52:56 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 29, 2012, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Maybe he was using the balls to set up the strikes.

Yeah, except if Miles is pointing to a 3-0 get-me-over to a number 8 hitter as his "only mistake", then his analysis is somewhat wanting.

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 12:21:59 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 10:52:56 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 29, 2012, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Maybe he was using the balls to set up the strikes.

Yeah, except if Miles is pointing to a 3-0 get-me-over to a number 8 hitter as his "only mistake", then his analysis is somewhat wanting.

So we all agree.

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 01:14:01 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 12:21:59 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 10:52:56 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 29, 2012, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Maybe he was using the balls to set up the strikes.

Yeah, except if Miles is pointing to a 3-0 get-me-over to a number 8 hitter as his "only mistake", then his analysis is somewhat wanting.

So we all agree.

Except that 99% of the time he's red-lighted on 3-0. Just getting it over isn't especially smart when you're pitching to Ryan Braun, but this was Jeff Bianchi.

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 01:14:01 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 12:21:59 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 10:52:56 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 29, 2012, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Maybe he was using the balls to set up the strikes.

Yeah, except if Miles is pointing to a 3-0 get-me-over to a number 8 hitter as his "only mistake", then his analysis is somewhat wanting.

So we all agree.

Except that 99% of the time he's red-lighted on 3-0. Just getting it over isn't especially smart when you're pitching to Ryan Braun, but this was Jeff Bianchi.

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 01:14:01 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 12:21:59 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 10:52:56 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 29, 2012, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Maybe he was using the balls to set up the strikes.

Yeah, except if Miles is pointing to a 3-0 get-me-over to a number 8 hitter as his "only mistake", then his analysis is somewhat wanting.

So we all agree.

Except that 99% of the time he's red-lighted on 3-0. Just getting it over isn't especially smart when you're pitching to Ryan Braun, but this was Jeff Bianchi.

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 01:29:08 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 01:14:01 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 12:21:59 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 10:52:56 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 29, 2012, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Maybe he was using the balls to set up the strikes.

Yeah, except if Miles is pointing to a 3-0 get-me-over to a number 8 hitter as his "only mistake", then his analysis is somewhat wanting.

So we all agree.

Except that 99% of the time he's red-lighted on 3-0. Just getting it over isn't especially smart when you're pitching to Ryan Braun, but this was Jeff Bianchi.

So we all agree.

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 29, 2012, 01:39:35 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 01:29:08 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 01:14:01 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 12:21:59 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 10:52:56 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 29, 2012, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708299946/

QuoteWood made one mistake, giving up a 3-run homer to Jeff Bianchi in the second inning on a 3-0 pitch. It was Bianchi's first major-league home run. Bianchi briefly was property of the Cubs last winter.

Epstink is terrible.

I don't think grooving a 3-0 pitch to a shitty hitter is a mistake. Those guys rarely have the green light.

Falling behind 3-0 with two on seems like a litany of mistakes to me.

Maybe he was using the balls to set up the strikes.

Yeah, except if Miles is pointing to a 3-0 get-me-over to a number 8 hitter as his "only mistake", then his analysis is somewhat wanting.

So we all agree.

Except that 99% of the time he's red-lighted on 3-0. Just getting it over isn't especially smart when you're pitching to Ryan Braun, but this was Jeff Bianchi.

So we all agree.

Epstink is terrible.

Quote from: Brownie on August 29, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
OK, everyone you've ever called an idiot -- me, Phil Rogers, Chuck, Mike Quade, KurtEvans, Gordon Wittenmeyer, Joe Carter, Bowie Kuhn, Rich Kotite, Michael Barrett, Jeff Joniak, Fro Dog, Bruce Weber, et. al -- deserves a big apology today. It's 4 days after the fact, but I became aware of this little column from the cognitively-degenerative-diseased (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/telander/14703613-452/cutting-brian-urlacher-a-real-option-for-bears.html) Rick Telander, and this tops anything any of these guys might say.

I don't know where to begin in tearing this apart. I just ask how this could get published on a bathroom wall, let alone a so-called big-city daily.

QuoteBy Paul Sullivan, Chicago Tribune reporter

11:20 p.m. CDT, September 6, 2012
WASHINGTON — When Dale Sveum went wild during an argument with umpire Larry Vanover on Wednesday night at National Park, it was seem as an anomaly in an otherwise placid season for the mellow Cubs' manager.

Quote from: flannj on September 07, 2012, 08:35:02 AM

QuoteBy Paul Sullivan, Chicago Tribune reporter

11:20 p.m. CDT, September 6, 2012
WASHINGTON — When Dale Sveum went wild during an argument with umpire Larry Vanover on Wednesday night at National Park, it was seem as an anomaly in an otherwise placid season for the mellow Cubs' manager.

*seam

Quote from: R-V on September 17, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
I think Biggsy's transparent "I hate my job and Jay Cutler is mean in press conferences" shtick has finally overcome his hilarious obsession with fringe NFL players who were nice to him in the locker room and sometimes useful tidbits of information. So yeah that's right I'm going to UNFOLLOW his tweats. Any recommendations for informative Bears/NFL follows who actually enjoy covering the sport?

Quote from: R-V on September 17, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
I think Biggsy's transparent "I hate my job and Jay Cutler is mean in press conferences" shtick has finally overcome his hilarious obsession with fringe NFL players who were nice to him in the locker room and sometimes useful tidbits of information. So yeah that's right I'm going to UNFOLLOW his tweats. Any recommendations for informative Bears/NFL follows who actually enjoy covering the sport?

Quote from: morpheus on September 17, 2012, 02:56:51 PM

Quote from: R-V on September 17, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
I think Biggsy's transparent "I hate my job and Jay Cutler is mean in press conferences" shtick has finally overcome his hilarious obsession with fringe NFL players who were nice to him in the locker room and sometimes useful tidbits of information. So yeah that's right I'm going to UNFOLLOW his tweats. Any recommendations for informative Bears/NFL follows who actually enjoy covering the sport?

You've been performing a valuable service tweeking him about his tweats with TIMSHAW!!!!!!!! references...

Quote from: R-V on September 17, 2012, 09:36:46 PM

Quote from: morpheus on September 17, 2012, 02:56:51 PM

Quote from: R-V on September 17, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
I think Biggsy's transparent "I hate my job and Jay Cutler is mean in press conferences" shtick has finally overcome his hilarious obsession with fringe NFL players who were nice to him in the locker room and sometimes useful tidbits of information. So yeah that's right I'm going to UNFOLLOW his tweats. Any recommendations for informative Bears/NFL follows who actually enjoy covering the sport?

You've been performing a valuable service tweeking him about his tweats with TIMSHAW!!!!!!!! references...

God dammit I may have to go back Biggsy. Yes he's an insufferably misanthropic meatbag but this Sean Jensen character is filling up my feed with too much non-Bears fluff. STICK TO BEARS FOOTBAW WE PAY YOUR CELERY!

Sorry CT but I'll be stealing the celery line for the next 40 years.

Quote from: PenPho on September 20, 2012, 02:55:45 PM
I missed the Totally Unreadable catalyst (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/14/staying-celibate-before-marriage-was-best-thing-ive-ever-done/) (a post on FoxNews.com from some guy who waited until his wedding night to have sex), but this fisking by KSK (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/09/mailbag-how-to-talk-about-steven-crowder-if-you-have-to-talk-about-him-at-all.html) is outstanding.

Quote from: Otto ManI like how Stephen Crowder, who by his own admission has ZERO personal experience with sexual relations outside of the one time he awkwardly engaged in missionary sex with his bride, feels confident enough to lecture the rest of us on how we've been doing it wrong for decades.

Fuck you, Stephen. If I'm taking cues from a Crowder, it sure as shit ain't you.

(http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BOYDDANCING1.gif)

Quote from: 0tarinSuddenly, his wedding photo is *way* better.

(http://i.imgur.com/MltpL.jpg)

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 02:00:32 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Yeah, even with Rose out they shouldn't have a problem making the playoffs. Then ... WATCH OUT.*

*But not really.

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

No seriously - your sarcasm is more accurate than you think. That's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm not championing it. I'd like to see them be bad. It won't happen.

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

No seriously - your sarcasm is more accurate than you think. That's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm not championing it. I'd like to see them be bad. It won't happen.

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 03:41:50 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

No seriously - your sarcasm is more accurate than you think. That's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm not championing it. I'd like to see them be bad. It won't happen.

New York, Milwaukee and Brooklyn aren't great teams. Thibs will out coach all of them. Unfortunately.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:43:36 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 03:41:50 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

No seriously - your sarcasm is more accurate than you think. That's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm not championing it. I'd like to see them be bad. It won't happen.

New York, Milwaukee and Brooklyn aren't great teams. Thibs will out coach all of them. Unfortunately.

You really believe in that dude, don't you?

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:43:36 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 03:41:50 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

No seriously - your sarcasm is more accurate than you think. That's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm not championing it. I'd like to see them be bad. It won't happen.

New York, Milwaukee and Brooklyn aren't great teams. Thibs will out coach all of them. Unfortunately.

You really believe in that dude, don't you?

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:45:18 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:43:36 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 03:41:50 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

No seriously - your sarcasm is more accurate than you think. That's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm not championing it. I'd like to see them be bad. It won't happen.

New York, Milwaukee and Brooklyn aren't great teams. Thibs will out coach all of them. Unfortunately.

You really believe in that dude, don't you?

His regular season record is hard to argue against. We'll see.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:45:18 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:43:36 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 03:41:50 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

No seriously - your sarcasm is more accurate than you think. That's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm not championing it. I'd like to see them be bad. It won't happen.

New York, Milwaukee and Brooklyn aren't great teams. Thibs will out coach all of them. Unfortunately.

You really believe in that dude, don't you?

His regular season record is hard to argue against. We'll see.

He had Derrick Damn Rose. People are looking at their relative success in his absence last year and blowing it out of proportion. It was a lockout-shortened year so the conditions were perfect to catch teams sluggish, tired, apathetic etc. It was a league-wide problem. When the playoffs arrived, how'd that work out for you? It happened once. It didn't mean what you think it means.

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 03:54:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:45:18 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:43:36 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 03:41:50 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 02:59:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 01:24:05 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times sport section:

"Kirk Hinrich tweaks his groin"

Isn't anything private anymore?

Somehow that's news. I gotta say though that I admire the way GarPax has Thibs-proofed this roster so that no matter how grindy and scrappy and courageous they may seem, they're still going to be in the lottery - which is where they need to be so they can get D. Rose a second scorer.

Remind me of this when you look at the standings in January and they're somehow the 4 seed.

Exactly. In the NBA you can win most nights just showing up, trying hard and actually playing defense, even against top teams.  Thibs is too smart on defense, even with scrubs, to finish lower than fifth or sixth i'm guessing.

You do have to score every once in awhile. Who is going to lead this team offensively? Deng? If he's healthy? Which he's not. Boozer - good luck with that. He can make baskets when unguarded but are you running your offense through that? Rip will break down again. Hinrich? I don't see it. I think you guys are over-estimating what Thibs can do with a group that is even more bum-laden than last year's Rose-less collection. That said I'll imagine your best case scenario: These stiffs enjoy rude health, your formula for showing up, grinding out wins against shitty teams or teams coming off a rough trip or game etc can net like 30+ victories. Maybe you get Rose back in February or March and he's somewhat close to his former self. Grind out 41 wins, nab that elusive 7th seed and avoid Miami in the first round. Profit.

No seriously - your sarcasm is more accurate than you think. That's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm not championing it. I'd like to see them be bad. It won't happen.

New York, Milwaukee and Brooklyn aren't great teams. Thibs will out coach all of them. Unfortunately.

You really believe in that dude, don't you?

His regular season record is hard to argue against. We'll see.

He had Derrick Damn Rose. People are looking at their relative success in his absence last year and blowing it out of proportion. It was a lockout-shortened year so the conditions were perfect to catch teams sluggish, tired, apathetic etc. It was a league-wide problem. When the playoffs arrived, how'd that work out for you? It happened once. It didn't mean what you think it means.

Do you actually watch the bulls? They have had a ton of injuries the last 2 seasons.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:11:40 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

I was waiting for you to do that. Now that you've gotten out of your system you can show me where the scoring is going to come from and we can continue our interesting Gil-like basketball discussion.

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 04:13:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:11:40 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

I was waiting for you to do that. Now that you've gotten out of your system you can show me where the scoring is going to come from and we can continue our interesting Gil-like basketball discussion.

Yawn'd.

Also, can we move this to the Hoops thread so as to be more readily ignorable by the rest of us?

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 04:13:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:11:40 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

I was waiting for you to do that. Now that you've gotten out of your system you can show me where the scoring is going to come from and we can continue our interesting Gil-like basketball discussion.

Yawn'd.

Also, can we move this to the Hoops thread so as to be more readily ignorable by the rest of us?

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 04:32:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 04:13:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:11:40 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

I was waiting for you to do that. Now that you've gotten out of your system you can show me where the scoring is going to come from and we can continue our interesting Gil-like basketball discussion.

Yawn'd.

Also, can we move this to the Hoops thread so as to be more readily ignorable by the rest of us?

My fault.  I thought that I was making a cute comment on a dumb headline.  Didn't think that it would lead to this.

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 04:41:17 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 04:32:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 04:13:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:11:40 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

I was waiting for you to do that. Now that you've gotten out of your system you can show me where the scoring is going to come from and we can continue our interesting Gil-like basketball discussion.

Yawn'd.

Also, can we move this to the Hoops thread so as to be more readily ignorable by the rest of us?

My fault.  I thought that I was making a cute comment on a dumb headline.  Didn't think that it would lead to this.

There's no butthurt here. Just a good sportz conversation like the good old days. It's refreshing and I want to dip my balls in it.

Pex, I agree with you that the scoring will be an issue. But I didn't say the Bulls are going to pile up 55 wins and a division title without Rose. They are going to allow a lot less points than most other teams meaning they won't have to score as much as other teams which will lead to enough wins to get them around or near the playoffs.

Perhaps my comment about being 4th in the conference was a little bit of hyperbole but it certainly wouldn't shock me if it happened. You may need to take a look at the overall records of the teams that generally finish in that 7-10 slot in the East. They are sometimes not even sniffing .500.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:59:46 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 04:41:17 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 04:32:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 04:13:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:11:40 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

I was waiting for you to do that. Now that you've gotten out of your system you can show me where the scoring is going to come from and we can continue our interesting Gil-like basketball discussion.

Yawn'd.

Also, can we move this to the Hoops thread so as to be more readily ignorable by the rest of us?

My fault.  I thought that I was making a cute comment on a dumb headline.  Didn't think that it would lead to this.

There's no butthurt here. Just a good sportz conversation like the good old days. It's refreshing and I want to dip my balls in it.

Pex, I agree with you that the scoring will be an issue. But I didn't say the Bulls are going to pile up 55 wins and a division title without Rose. They are going to allow a lot less points than most other teams meaning they won't have to score as much as other teams which will lead to enough wins to get them around or near the playoffs.

Perhaps my comment about being 4th in the conference was a little bit of hyperbole but it certainly wouldn't shock me if it happened. You may need to take a look at the overall records of the teams that generally finish in that 7-10 slot in the East. They are sometimes not even sniffing .500.

Unless Rose comes back sooner and better than expected, I believe they'll finish closer to 10th than 4th. Miami, Boston and Indiana are very good teams. I think Philly and New York are banging on the door of very good and then that clusterfuck below the middle tier is all you can eat ass. I believe that the Thibs fanboy exuberance on display in this thread borders on the lunacy that I pumped out in the Hester thread(s) and is predicated on past performance under conditions that no longer exist.

Bulls to finish 9th. See you in the Insignificant thread.

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 05:05:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:59:46 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 04:41:17 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 25, 2012, 04:32:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 04:13:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:11:40 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

I was waiting for you to do that. Now that you've gotten out of your system you can show me where the scoring is going to come from and we can continue our interesting Gil-like basketball discussion.

Yawn'd.

Also, can we move this to the Hoops thread so as to be more readily ignorable by the rest of us?

My fault.  I thought that I was making a cute comment on a dumb headline.  Didn't think that it would lead to this.

There's no butthurt here. Just a good sportz conversation like the good old days. It's refreshing and I want to dip my balls in it.

Pex, I agree with you that the scoring will be an issue. But I didn't say the Bulls are going to pile up 55 wins and a division title without Rose. They are going to allow a lot less points than most other teams meaning they won't have to score as much as other teams which will lead to enough wins to get them around or near the playoffs.

Perhaps my comment about being 4th in the conference was a little bit of hyperbole but it certainly wouldn't shock me if it happened. You may need to take a look at the overall records of the teams that generally finish in that 7-10 slot in the East. They are sometimes not even sniffing .500.

Unless Rose comes back sooner and better than expected, I believe they'll finish closer to 10th than 4th. Miami, Boston and Indiana are very good teams. I think Philly and New York are banging on the door of very good and then that clusterfuck below the middle tier is all you can eat ass. I believe that the Thibs fanboy exuberance on display in this thread borders on the lunacy that I pumped out in the Hester thread(s) and is predicated on past performance under conditions that no longer exist.

Bulls to finish 9th. See you in the Insignificant thread.

He'll drag them into the top 8. And you mentioned earlier that his regular season witchcraft fell apart in the playoffs (how'd that work out for you is what you said). That's not the discussion. They would get rightly pounded in the playoffs. They will gain entry to them.

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 04:13:19 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:11:40 PM

Quote from: BH on October 25, 2012, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
He had Derrick Damn Rose.

Whoa. Hold on. Thibs has had major, major success with that defense wherever he's been -- Chicago, Boston, Houston, New York, etc. The guy can clearly coach. It's not like he's some mediocre coach who inherited a bunch of superstars and people suddenly thought he was a good coach.

Since Apex's predictions are always spot on (see Devin Hester), slaky, yourself and i should reassess.

I was waiting for you to do that. Now that you've gotten out of your system you can show me where the scoring is going to come from and we can continue our interesting Gil-like basketball discussion.

Yawn'd.

Also, can we move this to the Hoops thread so as to be more readily ignorable by the rest of us?

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 04:41:17 PM
There's no butthurt here. Just a good sportz conversation like the good old days. It's refreshing and I want to dip my balls in it.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:09:24 PM
Unless you can point to that roster and tell me where the scoring is coming from, I am not going to change my mind.

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Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 04:41:17 PM
There's no butthurt here. Just a good sportz conversation like the good old days. It's refreshing and I want to dip my balls in it.

Actual discussion is not permitted on Desipio. It makes folks uncomfortable. Now, you can either reference something from the Shoutbox or Fro's blog, or you can kindly shut the hell up.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2012, 04:09:24 PM
Unless you can point to that roster and tell me where the scoring is coming from, I am not going to change my mind.

Sure, I agree that they'll struggle to score. But I think there will be enough scoring (meaning, enough to finish around the middle of the conference) from the system they run. They got a ton of scoring from Rose, but they also get a lot of second chances because they're the best rebounding team in basketball, which helps them be efficient and get easy looks. They also tend to get some offense from their defense, even though that sounds like a cop-out cliche. Scoring doesn't just have to come from individual big names; that's how the Knicks think.

There will definitely be horrible nights where they score 75 points and I want to murder Jerry Reinsdorf, but I think there will be enough scoring to keep them around the middle of the pack until Rose returns. My primary concern offensively, besides the absence of Rose, is that they don't have much in the way of three-point shooting.

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 06:10:05 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 25, 2012, 04:41:17 PM
There's no butthurt here. Just a good sportz conversation like the good old days. It's refreshing and I want to dip my balls in it.

Actual discussion is not permitted on Desipio. It makes folks uncomfortable. Now, you can either reference something from the Shoutbox or Fro's blog, or you can kindly shut the hell up.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Anyone else think Huey's butt doth hurt too much?

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 08:00:47 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Anyone else think Huey's butt doth hurt too much?

Relax, Thrillhomo--and stop thinking about my butt.  I was just looking for an excuse to use that picture.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 08:54:36 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 08:00:47 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Anyone else think Huey's butt doth hurt too much?

Relax, Thrillhomo--and stop thinking about my butt.  I was just looking for an excuse to use that picture.

(http://i.imgur.com/FNFV0.jpg)

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 10:07:20 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 08:54:36 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 08:00:47 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Anyone else think Huey's butt doth hurt too much?

Relax, Thrillhomo--and stop thinking about my butt.  I was just looking for an excuse to use that picture.

(http://i.imgur.com/FNFV0.jpg)

*Applies ButtHurt©*

Ahhhh, much better.

Adding...I confess to being a trollng douche right there because I was bored and Desipio's deader than Bort's whore grandmother.  Just picking nits because it was in the WRONG SECTION.  Good conversation--carry on.

Quote from: Bort on October 25, 2012, 11:07:52 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 10:07:20 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 08:54:36 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 08:00:47 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Anyone else think Huey's butt doth hurt too much?

Relax, Thrillhomo--and stop thinking about my butt.  I was just looking for an excuse to use that picture.

(http://i.imgur.com/FNFV0.jpg)

*Applies ButtHurt©*

Ahhhh, much better.

Adding...I confess to being a trollng douche right there because I was bored and Desipio's deader than Bort's whore grandmother.  Just picking nits because it was in the WRONG SECTION.  Good conversation--carry on.

Man somebody lit a fire under your wattle-and-daub hut today, eh O'Pankahan?

Quote from: PANK! on October 26, 2012, 06:47:35 AM

Quote from: Bort on October 25, 2012, 11:07:52 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 10:07:20 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 08:54:36 PM

Quote from: PANK! on October 25, 2012, 08:00:47 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 25, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Anyone else think Huey's butt doth hurt too much?

Relax, Thrillhomo--and stop thinking about my butt.  I was just looking for an excuse to use that picture.

(http://i.imgur.com/FNFV0.jpg)

*Applies ButtHurt©*

Ahhhh, much better.

Adding...I confess to being a trollng douche right there because I was bored and Desipio's deader than Bort's whore grandmother.  Just picking nits because it was in the WRONG SECTION.  Good conversation--carry on.

Man somebody lit a fire under your wattle-and-daub hut today, eh O'Pankahan?

*skullfucks Bort's dead whore grandmother*

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 06:10:05 PM
Sure, I agree that they'll struggle to score. But I think there will be enough scoring (meaning, enough to finish around the middle of the conference) from the system they run. They got a ton of scoring from Rose, but they also get a lot of second chances because they're the best rebounding team in basketball, which helps them be efficient and get easy looks. They also tend to get some offense from their defense, even though that sounds like a cop-out cliche. Scoring doesn't just have to come from individual big names; that's how the Knicks think.

There will definitely be horrible nights where they score 75 points and I want to murder Jerry Reinsdorf, but I think there will be enough scoring to keep them around the middle of the pack until Rose returns. My primary concern offensively, besides the absence of Rose, is that they don't have much in the way of three-point shooting.

Quote from: BH on October 26, 2012, 08:16:26 AM
I see Rose leaving to join another team to win a title. Yay.

Quote from: BH on October 26, 2012, 08:16:26 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 25, 2012, 06:10:05 PM
Sure, I agree that they'll struggle to score. But I think there will be enough scoring (meaning, enough to finish around the middle of the conference) from the system they run. They got a ton of scoring from Rose, but they also get a lot of second chances because they're the best rebounding team in basketball, which helps them be efficient and get easy looks. They also tend to get some offense from their defense, even though that sounds like a cop-out cliche. Scoring doesn't just have to come from individual big names; that's how the Knicks think.

There will definitely be horrible nights where they score 75 points and I want to murder Jerry Reinsdorf, but I think there will be enough scoring to keep them around the middle of the pack until Rose returns. My primary concern offensively, besides the absence of Rose, is that they don't have much in the way of three-point shooting.

Agree with you. Even with Rose we weren't a huge scoring team. More than having faith in the Bulls, I think the NBA is so watered down that all these other teams suck outside of the super radical best friends dominant teams.  I actually hope pex is right, the more the bulls suck the better the chances at a good draft pick. If the bulls don't get a real superstar to help rose in the next 2-3 years, and it doesn't seem that Bulls mgmt know how or are willing to do that, I see Rose leaving to join another team to win a title. Yay.

Quote from: BH on October 26, 2012, 08:16:26 AM
Even with Rose we weren't a huge scoring team.  

Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2012, 09:24:37 AM
We talkin about sports in here? Good defensive teams? Anyone see the Bears are allowing 8.5 ppg their last four games? Lead the NFL at 13 ppg overall, which is actually 10.6 ppg taking away non-offensive TDs? 21 takeaways? 21 sacks? Best turnover differential in the NFL at +13? Best point differential at +84? You been seein this? You been readin this?

Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2012, 09:55:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2012, 09:24:37 AM
We talkin about sports in here? Good defensive teams? Anyone see the Bears are allowing 8.5 ppg their last four games? Lead the NFL at 13 ppg overall, which is actually 10.6 ppg taking away non-offensive TDs? 21 takeaways? 21 sacks? Best turnover differential in the NFL at +13? Best point differential at +84? You been seein this? You been readin this?

relax

Quote from: PenPho on October 26, 2012, 10:42:23 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2012, 09:55:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2012, 09:24:37 AM
We talkin about sports in here? Good defensive teams? Anyone see the Bears are allowing 8.5 ppg their last four games? Lead the NFL at 13 ppg overall, which is actually 10.6 ppg taking away non-offensive TDs? 21 takeaways? 21 sacks? Best turnover differential in the NFL at +13? Best point differential at +84? You been seein this? You been readin this?

relax

Best defensive team through 6 games since the 2002 Bucs.

Quote from: PenPho on October 26, 2012, 10:42:23 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2012, 09:55:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2012, 09:24:37 AM
We talkin about sports in here? Good defensive teams? Anyone see the Bears are allowing 8.5 ppg their last four games? Lead the NFL at 13 ppg overall, which is actually 10.6 ppg taking away non-offensive TDs? 21 takeaways? 21 sacks? Best turnover differential in the NFL at +13? Best point differential at +84? You been seein this? You been readin this?

relax

Best defensive team through 6 games since the 2002 Bucs.

QuoteJay Cutler was directing a painless dissection of the St. Louis Rams last month at Soldier Field as the Cubs were saying a final goodbye to Kerry Wood.

Here's hoping someone sent Cutler a tape. The smirky quarterback could learn something.

As a sports figure, Wood was classic Chicago: a decent, hard-working, down-to-earth guy who carried himself the way we would like to think we would if we were blessed with a 98 mph fastball and breaking stuff so wicked it completely flummoxed a credible Houston Astros lineup in Wood's fifth major-league start as a 20-year-old.

By one measure, that 20-strikeout masterpiece was the worst thing that could have happened to Wood. It set an unattainably high bar for the rest of his career. Largely because of a succession of injuries, Wood is destined to be remembered for what might have been rather than for what was, save for that one shining moment in May 1998.

He won 80 games in a Cubs uniform, as many as Ken Holtzman and 45 fewer than Carlos Zambrano, neither of whom would be hailed as a franchise icon. He never pitched in a World Series — hardly an exclusive club of Cubs — and squandered one opportunity that pains him still.

After all that went terribly wrong in Game 6 of the 2003 National League Championship Series, the Cubs had another chance in Game 7, with Wood taking the mound before an adoring, deliriously supportive packed house at Wrigley Field.

He was at the peak of his powers, having won a career-best 14 games with a league-high 266 strikeouts in 211 innings. But he couldn't close the deal. The Florida Marlins cuffed him for seven runs in 52/3 innings and secured the NL pennant.

Wood's tearful ''I choked'' mea culpa in the postgame clubhouse evoked more sympathy than anger. And in any recounting of still another epic Cubs collapse,
Game 6 protagonists Steve Bartman, Alex Gonzalez and Dusty Baker emerge as the primary culprits.

Woody skates because we love the guy. Always did, always will. All those injuries might have derailed his run at greatness, but he never stopped trying to get there. He didn't go out of his way to court media favor, but simply by being approachable and honest, he created a good-guy persona that Cubs fans embraced.

Wood is a Texan by birth and background, but he has made himself a Chicagoan for life, and there's some benefit to that.

Cutler, were he so inclined, could be an even bigger deal. He plays the most important position on the most important team in the city, and he's acceptably good at it, if not great, with the Bears moving smoothly toward their second playoff trip in his four-year tenure.

Just as important, Cutler put to rest any doubts a self-styled tough town might have had about his own ''toughness'' by crawling out from under 308 pounds of angry Ndamukong Suh to finish the Bears' victory Monday against the Detroit Lions with bruised ribs.

What's not to like?

Well, there's Cutler's demeanor. He comes across as bored and indifferent on his best days, smug and condescending on his worst. He simply doesn't care what you or I or anybody else outside the Bears' locker room thinks of him and won't cooperate with a city that wants to love him.

Does it matter? No, except that it does. Fans aren't privy to the locker-room dynamic and form their perceptions of athletes through the prism of the media. Is that fair? Of course not, but a little civility helps a lot.

Dave Wannstedt probably bought himself an extra year or two as the Bears' coach by being a decent guy. Mark Buehrle, Steve Kerr, Jermaine Dye, Brian Campbell — they've moved on, but they always will be welcome here.

Frank Thomas could have owned the town during his run as the best hitter in baseball. He never chose to, opting for prickly, but he saw the light before it was too late. Watching him yuk it up as part of the White Sox' broadcast crew, it's easy to forget he was once an outcast from the organization.

Sammy Sosa remains in Cubs exile, paying the price for being an unethical, unrepentant diva.

This is not to suggest that Cutler morph into Jay Leno — oh, no, not that. Maybe he's being true to himself by remaining disdainfully above it all. But Chicago would like him better if he liked us back — or at least appeared to. We are, after all, an awfully soft touch for sports stars.

Especially if they're Bears.

Quote from: PANK! on October 29, 2012, 08:49:04 AM
Does it matter? No, except that it does. Fans aren't privy to the locker-room dynamic and form their perceptions of athletes through the prism of the media. Is that fair? Of course not, but a little civility helps a lot.