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Title: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Yeti on April 24, 2011, 06:39:33 AM
... Ryan Dempster?


Really, I'm not sure if I can see an explanation of why he sucks now. I haven't been able to watch him for more than the last start against Colorado and I was doing other stuff around the house while it was going on. Plus, I usually choose to not trust my eyes in trying to evaluate someone, because we all have confirmation biases and once we decide a player is some arbitrary classification, then we will be sure to see that in each subsequent instance each time it occurs.

One thing that I have noticed is that Ryan's numbers have gone down each year from 2008-2010 (and 11 of course). To me, the one thing that is encouraging is the face that his xFIP is 3.70, so maybe he won't suck the rest of the year.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: BBM on April 24, 2011, 10:22:21 AM
He sucked prior to rothschild and despite 2008 was just mediocre while Rothschild was here. 

Rothschild is gone and he's now old.  It's pretty much that simple
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on April 24, 2011, 11:21:16 AM
He's an overrated white guy who's been able to milk it for 8 years in Chicago.  He should be applauded, really.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: SKO on April 25, 2011, 07:19:36 AM
Well, I've watched Opening Day, the start against the Astros, and Saturday. My untrained eye tells me he lacks stamina, or something. He seems to do okay for about 4 innings and then the moonshots come in the 5th or 6th. I mean he was one bad call away from giving up back-to-back-to-back homers in the 6th in Houston and the home runs to Barajas, Blake, and Kemp were in the same location. So my answer to you is that he throws shitty fastballs when he's tired.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Eli on April 25, 2011, 07:25:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 25, 2011, 07:19:36 AM
My untrained eye tells me he lacks stamina, or something.

What that is, is hard to define.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Waco Kid on April 25, 2011, 07:29:49 AM
Ryan Dempster sucks.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: R-V on April 25, 2011, 08:24:23 AM
Quote from: BBM on April 24, 2011, 10:22:21 AM
He sucked prior to rothschild and despite 2008 was just mediocre while Rothschild was here. 

Rothschild is gone and he's now old.  It's pretty much that simple

Yankees team ERA: 4.21. Cubs team ERA: 5.15. I blame Huey for running the guy out of town.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: SKO on April 25, 2011, 08:30:09 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 25, 2011, 08:24:23 AM
Quote from: BBM on April 24, 2011, 10:22:21 AM
He sucked prior to rothschild and despite 2008 was just mediocre while Rothschild was here. 

Rothschild is gone and he's now old.  It's pretty much that simple

Yankees team ERA: 4.21. Cubs team ERA: 5.15. I blame Huey for running the guy out of town.

What we lost, what we never knew we had.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Yeti on April 25, 2011, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 25, 2011, 08:24:23 AM
Quote from: BBM on April 24, 2011, 10:22:21 AM
He sucked prior to rothschild and despite 2008 was just mediocre while Rothschild was here. 

Rothschild is gone and he's now old.  It's pretty much that simple

Yankees team ERA: 4.21. Cubs team ERA: 5.15. I blame Huey for running the guy out of town.

FDB has been calling for LAWRENCE ROTHSCHILD'S head for years. I blame them
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: BH on April 25, 2011, 09:22:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 25, 2011, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 25, 2011, 08:24:23 AM
Quote from: BBM on April 24, 2011, 10:22:21 AM
He sucked prior to rothschild and despite 2008 was just mediocre while Rothschild was here. 

Rothschild is gone and he's now old.  It's pretty much that simple

Yankees team ERA: 4.21. Cubs team ERA: 5.15. I blame Huey for running the guy out of town.

FDB has been calling for LAWRENCE ROTHSCHILD'S head for years. I blame them

It SHOULDN'T MATTER if Rudy Jaramillo had turned our offense around like we were promised.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: CBStew on April 25, 2011, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: BH on April 25, 2011, 09:22:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 25, 2011, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 25, 2011, 08:24:23 AM
Quote from: BBM on April 24, 2011, 10:22:21 AM
He sucked prior to rothschild and despite 2008 was just mediocre while Rothschild was here. 

Rothschild is gone and he's now old.  It's pretty much that simple

Yankees team ERA: 4.21. Cubs team ERA: 5.15. I blame Huey for running the guy out of town.

FDB has been calling for LAWRENCE ROTHSCHILD'S head for years. I blame them

It SHOULDN'T MATTER if Rudy Jaramillo had turned our offense around like we were promised.

But he did.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: ChuckD on April 26, 2011, 12:35:29 AM
Why don't they make the entire Ryan Dempster out of airline food?
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Wheezer on April 26, 2011, 04:44:07 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 24, 2011, 06:39:33 AMPlus, I usually choose to not trust my eyes in trying to evaluate someone, because we all have confirmation biases and once we decide a player is some arbitrary classification, then we will be sure to see that in each subsequent instance each time it occurs.

Yeti plucks out his eyes and searches for them where it's brighter. Film at 11.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 26, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
Pause? (http://www.thegrio.com/sports/pause-is-this-catchphrase-homophobic-or-humorous.php)
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Yeti on April 28, 2011, 09:01:43 PM
He is a fucking dick sucking faggot
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 28, 2011, 09:18:49 PM
the staff ace?
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Slaky on April 28, 2011, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 28, 2011, 09:18:49 PM
the staff ace?

Wells is on the DL.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Yeti on April 28, 2011, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2011, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 28, 2011, 09:18:49 PM
the staff ace?

Wells is on the DL.

Zambrano
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: ChuckD on April 28, 2011, 09:29:25 PM
I don't have access to B-R's gamefinder or whatever it's called, but I have a hard time imagining someone else having as epically shitty of a start as that. That was pretty godawful.

Edit: Well, found one. http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX199405110.shtml

This one was pretty forgettable, apparently. http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200908140.shtml
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: CubFaninHydePark on April 28, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
The writing appeared on the wall in that Game 1 against the Dodgers. Glad that the spiral into shittiness has bottomed out.  That or Dempster thinks his Carlos Silva impersonation is hilarious.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Internet Apex on April 29, 2011, 07:34:51 AM
He's obviously injured. I think he's got something wrong with his back. He's trying to take one for the team and pitch through but it's not working. The way he's leaving pitches up tells me it's probably his back. Velocity is there, he's not limping. Stiff back.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: PenPho on April 29, 2011, 11:12:56 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 28, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
The writing appeared on the wall in that Game 1 against the Dodgers. Glad that the spiral into shittiness has bottomed out.  That or Dempster thinks his Carlos Silva impersonation is hilarious.

The writing was on the wall based upon one start 18 months ago?

The spiral into shittiness included 215 innings with a 113 ERA+?

You are not a good sports fan.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Internet Apex on April 29, 2011, 11:30:16 AM
Quote from: PenPho on April 29, 2011, 11:12:56 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 28, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
The writing appeared on the wall in that Game 1 against the Dodgers. Glad that the spiral into shittiness has bottomed out.  That or Dempster thinks his Carlos Silva impersonation is hilarious.

The writing was on the wall based upon one start 18 months?

The spiral into shittiness included 215 innings with a 113 ERA+?

You are not a good sports fan.


I thought he meant last Saturday's game against the Dodgers when he couldn't hold a 4-run lead. I was thinking, "That was game two. What a dumbass." This is another thing entirely. I knew that the prequels were going to suck as soon as I saw Luke get his hand cut off in Empire. That looked fake as hell.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Wheezer on May 01, 2011, 01:51:03 PM
Screw Dempster, I want to know what the fuck is up with the Wiesenthal Center feting Tom Cruise (http://askthescientologist.blogspot.com/2011/04/whats-wrong-with-simon-wiesenthal.html).
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Slaky on May 01, 2011, 08:30:44 PM
...Darwin Barney. This is really bothering me. Is he good? I refuse to get sucked into this.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: R-V on May 01, 2011, 09:12:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 01, 2011, 08:30:44 PM...Darwin Barney. This is really bothering me. Is he good? I refuse to get sucked into this.

It depends. Maybe one of our resident stat penises can answer this - how common is it for a player to outperform his minor league stats? Because I think that's what Darwin is going to have to do to be good for real instead of being good for a month.

Career minor league OBP of .334, slugging of .374. This year he's sitting at .351 and .449. I think he'd need to

- OBP at least .350
- slug over .400
- continue to play great defense
- continue to know his ass from his elbow on the basepaths

to be a legit starter long-term. We can count on 3 and 4 but not so sure about 1 and 2.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with.....
Post by: Yeti on May 01, 2011, 09:43:31 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 01, 2011, 09:12:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 01, 2011, 08:30:44 PM...Darwin Barney. This is really bothering me. Is he good? I refuse to get sucked into this.

It depends. Maybe one of our resident stat penises can answer this - how common is it for a player to outperform his minor league stats?


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