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Title: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 19, 2011, 11:09:58 AM

My money's on Todd, with the cameras rolling. Great television.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 19, 2011, 11:10:56 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 19, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
My money's on Todd, with the cameras rolling. Great television.

Will he be forced to stay away from Wrigley for a week while he grows his GM beard?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Yeti on August 19, 2011, 11:12:33 AM

I thought the title was going to be Who Will be the Next in Line?

Dammit

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 19, 2011, 11:21:47 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 19, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 19, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
My money's on Todd, with the cameras rolling. Great television.

Will he be forced to stay away from Wrigley for a week while he grows his GM beard?

Checking on that with the producers, who have some great ideas on some signings and trades that will be ratings gold.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 21, 2011, 05:50:05 PM

QuoteOne member of baseball's front office Geek Squad getting attention is Rays' general manager Andrew Friedman, whom Carlos Pena lauded Friday. On Saturday, Garza called Friedman a "great GM" who "flipped the Tampa team around" in his first two years. Pena and Garza were on the Rays last season.

"I don't know how he does it, but year-in, year-out, he can put together a bullpen and the pieces he needs with the type of market he has," Garza said. "I think he'd do great here, but it's a biased opinion. I'd want (the job). It's going to be a fun couple of months to see who we get and how it goes. I know one thing for sure — I'll be back here in January."

Shhh guys, you'll jinx it.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Yeti on August 21, 2011, 07:42:21 PM

So Hendry traded for Garza and didn't trade Pena to get Friedman in 2012?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM

From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on August 25, 2011, 08:24:15 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

"Now that the jerk who didn't hire me is gone I like the Cubs again."

Sandberg is the biggest fucking bitch on the planet.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: R-V on August 25, 2011, 08:39:12 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2011, 08:24:15 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

"Now that the jerk who didn't hire me is gone I like the Cubs again."

Sandberg is the biggest fucking bitch on the planet.

Hiring Coletti would be perfectly fucking awful. Replace one old-timey GM who thinks stats are for queers with another. Coletti can acquire Pierre and put him in left with Campana in center. Then Sandberg can have them hit 1-2 and bunt every at-bat.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on August 25, 2011, 08:44:18 AM

Quote from: R-V on August 25, 2011, 08:39:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2011, 08:24:15 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

"Now that the jerk who didn't hire me is gone I like the Cubs again."

Sandberg is the biggest fucking bitch on the planet.

Hiring Coletti would be perfectly fucking awful. Replace one old-timey GM who thinks stats are for queers with another. Coletti can acquire Pierre and put him in left with Campana in center. Then Sandberg can have them hit 1-2 and bunt every at-bat.

I honestly don't know what I would do if they hired Coletti. That might be the last straw. I'm probably full of shit but it would send me into a rage at least.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM

Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Waco Kid on August 25, 2011, 08:56:23 AM

Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

This being the Cubs I should then congratulate Colletti on his imminent hire as GM.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BH on August 25, 2011, 08:58:02 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

He signed Jason Schmidt in 2006 to a 3-year, $47-million free agent contract.
He signed Andruw Jones in 2007 to a 2-year, $36 million.

The only good thing he's done is that he hasn't traded away his sure bet minor league players...

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:59:32 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

Colletti, Bowden, Steve Phillips. Maybe they can hire several GMs and use them on a rotating, committee basis. They could call it something clever, like "University of GMs."

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Brownie on August 25, 2011, 09:32:43 AM

Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

Colletti, Bowden, Steve Phillips. Maybe they can hire several GMs and use them on a rotating, committee basis. They could call it something clever, like "University of GMs."

Eli, you're free to take the rest of the week off if you wish.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Bort on August 25, 2011, 10:36:45 AM

Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

Colletti, Bowden, Steve Phillips. Maybe they can hire several GMs and use them on a rotating, committee basis. They could call it something clever, like "University of GMs."

Eli, you're free to take the rest of the week off if you wish.

With pay.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Gilgamesh on August 25, 2011, 10:47:25 AM

Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2011, 10:36:45 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

Colletti, Bowden, Steve Phillips. Maybe they can hire several GMs and use them on a rotating, committee basis. They could call it something clever, like "University of GMs."

Eli, you're free to take the rest of the week off if you wish.

With pay.

What is this, France?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Brownie on August 25, 2011, 10:50:18 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 25, 2011, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2011, 10:36:45 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

Colletti, Bowden, Steve Phillips. Maybe they can hire several GMs and use them on a rotating, committee basis. They could call it something clever, like "University of GMs."

Eli, you're free to take the rest of the week off if you wish.

With pay.

What is this, France?

No. It's America, sir. We're in the earn it business. Eli has earned his time off for a job well done.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Bort on August 25, 2011, 11:04:41 AM

Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2011, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 25, 2011, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2011, 10:36:45 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 25, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!

After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

Colletti, Bowden, Steve Phillips. Maybe they can hire several GMs and use them on a rotating, committee basis. They could call it something clever, like "University of GMs."

Eli, you're free to take the rest of the week off if you wish.

With pay.

What is this, France?

No. It's America, sir. We're in the earn it business. Eli has earned his time off for a job well done.

We wouldn't expect a hotshot government labor paralegal to understand an honest day's work for an honest day's pay.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Shooter on August 25, 2011, 09:39:08 PM

Quote from: BH on August 25, 2011, 08:58:02 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 25, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 25, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
From CRG:

QuoteThe Cubs are drawn to Colletti, a Chicago native and former Cubs employee, since they believe he could bring Hall of Fame second baseman turned minor league manager Ryne Sandberg back as the team's Major League skipper. Sandberg has said he'd return to the Cubs now that former GM Jim Hendry has been fired, according to Wittenmyer.

Hiring on that criteria sounds like some excellent reasoning!
After hearing about Friedman, Epstein, Cashman and other good names, hiring Colletti would literally be the worst thing that ever happened.

Jim Bowden is available...

He signed Jason Schmidt in 2006 to a 3-year, $47-million free agent contract.
He signed Andruw Jones in 2007 to a 2-year, $36 million.

The only good thing he's done is that he hasn't traded away his sure bet minor league players...

In his defense, they did get ten starts and 42 innings with an ERA+ of 72 (small sample size) out of Schmidt.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BH on August 26, 2011, 11:21:55 AM

Gordo has the perfect (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/7281004-417/dan-evans-the-perfect-fit-for-cubs-gm-job.html) GM for the cubs. Welcome to the club, Dan Evans.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on August 26, 2011, 11:44:08 AM

Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
Gordo has the perfect (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/7281004-417/dan-evans-the-perfect-fit-for-cubs-gm-job.html) GM for the cubs. Welcome to the club, Dan Evans.

Quote from: GordoThe McCourts swept Evans out almost as soon as they took over, hiring Moneyball figure Paul DePodesta for a failed 20-month reign.

What a failure, trading away players at their peak value and signing a bunch of guys to below-market deals who then performed well.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BBM on August 26, 2011, 11:57:55 AM

Quote from: Eli on August 26, 2011, 11:44:08 AM
Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
Gordo has the perfect (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/7281004-417/dan-evans-the-perfect-fit-for-cubs-gm-job.html) GM for the cubs. Welcome to the club, Dan Evans.

Quote from: GordoThe McCourts swept Evans out almost as soon as they took over, hiring Moneyball figure Paul DePodesta for a failed 20-month reign.

What a failure, trading away players at their peak value and signing a bunch of guys to below-market deals who then performed well.

Bill Plascke'ed?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:09:43 PM

Here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/08/26/cubs.general.manager/index.html?eref=writers) is a list of all the candidates. Minus Dan Evans.

Kim Ng went to University of Chicago and would help Asian relations and women's relations. That's a dynamic combination of things.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: SKO on August 26, 2011, 12:15:59 PM

Quote from: Eli on August 26, 2011, 11:44:08 AM
Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
Gordo has the perfect (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/7281004-417/dan-evans-the-perfect-fit-for-cubs-gm-job.html) GM for the cubs. Welcome to the club, Dan Evans.

Quote from: GordoThe McCourts swept Evans out almost as soon as they took over, hiring Moneyball figure Paul DePodesta for a failed 20-month reign.

What a failure, trading away players at their peak value and signing a bunch of guys to below-market deals who then performed well.

Don't Dodgers fans hate him for trading Paul Lo Duca fer chrissakes.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Brownie on August 26, 2011, 12:23:26 PM

Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
Gordo has the perfect (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/7281004-417/dan-evans-the-perfect-fit-for-cubs-gm-job.html) GM for the cubs. Welcome to the club, Dan Evans.

Gordo has not stopped in here to vote. Evans has zero votes, just as many as the pseudonymous Mark Dawson. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?PHPSESSID=jgk0asengbicltuskdhqgi6cc6&topic=7888.0)

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: JakeD on August 26, 2011, 12:47:03 PM

Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
Here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/08/26/cubs.general.manager/index.html?eref=writers) is a list of all the candidates. Minus Dan Evans.

Kim Ng went to University of Chicago and would help Asian relations and women's relations. That's a dynamic combination of things.

If she would bring more Asian women to Wrigley, I'm all for it.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:54:28 PM

Quote from: JakeD on August 26, 2011, 12:47:03 PM
Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
Here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/08/26/cubs.general.manager/index.html?eref=writers) is a list of all the candidates. Minus Dan Evans.

Kim Ng went to University of Chicago and would help Asian relations and women's relations. That's a dynamic combination of things.

If she would bring more Asian women to Wrigley, I'm all for it.

Apex now goes by JakeD?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Gilgamesh on August 26, 2011, 12:56:10 PM

Quote from: JakeD on August 26, 2011, 12:47:03 PM
Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
Here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/08/26/cubs.general.manager/index.html?eref=writers) is a list of all the candidates. Minus Dan Evans.

Kim Ng went to University of Chicago and would help Asian relations and women's relations. That's a dynamic combination of things.

If she would bring more Asian women to Wrigley, I'm all for it.

Que Apex...

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on August 26, 2011, 01:41:18 PM

Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: JakeD on August 26, 2011, 12:47:03 PM
Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
Here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/08/26/cubs.general.manager/index.html?eref=writers) is a list of all the candidates. Minus Dan Evans.

Kim Ng went to University of Chicago and would help Asian relations and women's relations. That's a dynamic combination of things.

If she would bring more Asian women to Wrigley, I'm all for it.

Apex now goes by JakeD?

I'd need a ruling on this.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 26, 2011, 02:11:47 PM

Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
Here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/08/26/cubs.general.manager/index.html?eref=writers) is a list of all the candidates. Minus Dan Evans.

Kim Ng went to University of Chicago and would help Asian relations and women's relations. That's a dynamic combination of things.

Kim Ng would make my Quadeboner look like my attitude toward Puff Daddy and the Family.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 29, 2011, 07:35:56 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 26, 2011, 02:11:47 PM
Quote from: BH on August 26, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
Here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/08/26/cubs.general.manager/index.html?eref=writers) is a list of all the candidates. Minus Dan Evans.

Kim Ng went to University of Chicago and would help Asian relations and women's relations. That's a dynamic combination of things.

Kim Ng would make my Quadeboner look like my attitude toward Puff Daddy and the Family.

desperate longing?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 01, 2011, 10:07:27 PM

Muskrat:

QuoteAs for potential candidates, here are a half-dozen: Rangers assistant GM Thad Levine; Red Sox assistant GM Ben Cherington; Royals assistant GM J.J. Picollo; former Twins GM Terry Ryan; White Sox assistant GM Rick Hahn; Marlins assistant GM Mike Hill. Add those to the rumor mill.

Done and done.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: R-V on September 02, 2011, 09:05:19 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 01, 2011, 10:07:27 PM
Muskrat:

QuoteAs for potential candidates, here are a half-dozen: Rangers assistant GM Thad Levine; Red Sox assistant GM Ben Cherington; Royals assistant GM J.J. Picollo; former Twins GM Terry Ryan; White Sox assistant GM Rick Hahn; Marlins assistant GM Mike Hill. Add those to the rumor mill.

Done and done.

DE MEMORY OF OUR GREATEST BEAR LIVES ON!

Which name is gayer, Thad or JJ?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 02, 2011, 10:43:30 AM

Quote from: R-V on September 02, 2011, 09:05:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 01, 2011, 10:07:27 PM
Muskrat:

QuoteAs for potential candidates, here are a half-dozen: Rangers assistant GM Thad Levine; Red Sox assistant GM Ben Cherington; Royals assistant GM J.J. Picollo; former Twins GM Terry Ryan; White Sox assistant GM Rick Hahn; Marlins assistant GM Mike Hill. Add those to the rumor mill.

Done and done.

DE MEMORY OF OUR GREATEST BEAR LIVES ON!

Which name is gayer, Thad or JJ?

Ryan.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Brownie on September 02, 2011, 10:54:29 AM

Quote from: R-V on September 02, 2011, 09:05:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 01, 2011, 10:07:27 PM
Muskrat:

QuoteAs for potential candidates, here are a half-dozen: Rangers assistant GM Thad Levine; Red Sox assistant GM Ben Cherington; Royals assistant GM J.J. Picollo; former Twins GM Terry Ryan; White Sox assistant GM Rick Hahn; Marlins assistant GM Mike Hill. Add those to the rumor mill.

Done and done.

DE MEMORY OF OUR GREATEST BEAR LIVES ON!

Which name is gayer, Thad or JJ?

R-V, you should be ashamed of asking that question.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51D0LtB-s7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

JJ is just a cheap substitute for the far cooler T.J. So, yeah JJ is far worse.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 06, 2011, 10:18:57 PM

Chuck LaMar? Worked with Wilken in Tampa and assisted in Atlanta when Maddux was there.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110906&content_id=24300002&notebook_id=24319770&vkey=notebook_phi&c_id=phi

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: R-V on September 07, 2011, 08:47:49 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 06, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
Chuck LaMar? Worked with Wilken in Tampa and assisted in Atlanta when Maddux was there.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110906&content_id=24300002&notebook_id=24319770&vkey=notebook_phi&c_id=phi

Am I misremembering or was Lamar thought of as a complete boob in Tampa Bay? Or am I thinking of the previous owner?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Internet Apex on September 07, 2011, 09:17:06 AM

Quote from: R-V on September 07, 2011, 08:47:49 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 06, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
Chuck LaMar? Worked with Wilken in Tampa and assisted in Atlanta when Maddux was there.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110906&content_id=24300002&notebook_id=24319770&vkey=notebook_phi&c_id=phi

Am I misremembering or was Lamar thought of as a complete boob in Tampa Bay? Or am I thinking of the previous owner?

You are correct. Per Wikipedia:

Tampa Bay Devil Rays

During the eight seasons (1998–2005)[2] when LaMar oversaw the Devil Rays franchise, the expansion team compiled a 518–777 (.400) record and only once won more than 70 games (2004).[5]

LaMar's tenure was characterized by moves such as trading Bobby Abreu and Dmitri Young while receiving Kevin Stocker and Mike Kelly in return. Those trades proved to be failures, as Abreu and Young went on to have successful careers. He was also responsible for signing Juan Guzmán, Wilson Alvarez, Wade Boggs, Roberto Hernández, and trading for Fred McGriff.[2]

LaMar was fired on October 6, 2005 by incoming owner Stuart Sternberg.[6]

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 08, 2011, 11:49:45 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 06, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
Chuck LaMar? Worked with Wilken in Tampa and assisted in Atlanta when Maddux was there.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110906&content_id=24300002&notebook_id=24319770&vkey=notebook_phi&c_id=phi

(http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/patch/7bf564c175138b354182ce4097b76df2) + (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yGeA_PC563M/TA1EUtkFjHI/AAAAAAAAEgw/TB4L1whMlgQ/s1600/LarryBScott+2.jpg) ?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 04, 2011, 10:23:18 PM

Cubs ask permission to speak to Theo Epstein. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/cubs_ask_permis.html) I like.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on October 05, 2011, 09:48:24 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2011, 10:23:18 PM
Cubs ask permission to speak to Theo Epstein. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/cubs_ask_permis.html) I like.

From the reading the comments, there seem to be two themes:

1. "Fine, let Theo walk. He's not that great anymore."
2. "We should get Garza or Castro as compensation."

Boston fans are THE WORST.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 05, 2011, 10:18:37 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2011, 10:23:18 PM
Cubs ask permission to speak to Theo Epstein. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/cubs_ask_permis.html) I like.

If (a very big "if") the Ricketti are smart:

Give Theo whatever salary and budget he asks for
Give Theo autonomy over hiring/firing/signing
PROFIT!

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:39:04 AM

Quote from: Fork on October 05, 2011, 10:18:37 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2011, 10:23:18 PM
Cubs ask permission to speak to Theo Epstein. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/cubs_ask_permis.html) I like.

If (a very big "if") the Ricketti are smart:

Give Theo whatever salary and budget he asks for
Give Theo autonomy over hiring/firing/signing
PROFIT!

How about Theo as President, Andrew Friedman as GM, Eli as manager, and Yetti as Head Scout (11-14 Year Olds, Pacific Rim Region). NERDGASM!

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM

Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.

QuoteYou know what Theo and Friedman both have that Ricketts says he doesn't need? A partner (Lucchino and Gerry Hunsicker)

QuoteHaving a baseball guy to watch your baseball guy is a good thing. When you only have one (Hendry) you get Soriano et al.

QuoteTheo or Friedman will be a nice change. But get one of them AND, say, Pat Gillick.

QuoteNot even close. He's no SABR guy, but Lucchino understands sports @Aisle424 Larry Lucchino is a lawyer. He's the same as Crane Kenney

QuoteMaybe. But Theo and Friedman both had someone riding shotgun @STAnteater @Aisle424 I'd rather have just one guy. Too many cooks otherwise

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 05, 2011, 10:45:00 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 04, 2011, 10:23:18 PM
Cubs ask permission to speak to Theo Epstein. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/cubs_ask_permis.html) I like.

This is all well and good until the talk ends with Theo saying, "You guys are so fucked."

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2011, 10:47:55 AM

Quote from: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.

I'd rather have 2 than 1. But it's not a failure from the get go if they only get one guy.

Unless that guy is someone who's never done the job before. If they get Rick Hahn and no Gillick type, the odds won't be in that guy's favor.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on October 05, 2011, 11:04:05 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.
I'd rather have 2 than 1. But it's not a failure from the get go if they only get one guy.

Unless that guy is someone who's never done the job before. If they get Rick Hahn and no Gillick type, the odds won't be in that guy's favor.

I won't be happy unless the new GM hires an incredibly old person to tell them what to do either.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Yeti on October 05, 2011, 11:14:26 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.
I'd rather have 2 than 1. But it's not a failure from the get go if they only get one guy.

Unless that guy is someone who's never done the job before. If they get Rick Hahn and no Gillick type, the odds won't be in that guy's favor.

So, when do the Cubs get a 40 Theriot front office? 40 baseball guys would be better than one

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BH on October 05, 2011, 12:07:09 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.
I'd rather have 2 than 1. But it's not a failure from the get go if they only get one guy.

Unless that guy is someone who's never done the job before. If they get Rick Hahn and no Gillick type, the odds won't be in that guy's favor.

I thought Ricketts wanted to hire someone with experience actually doing the job? If I were Theo or Friedman and the owner was insistent on also bringing in another GM-type to manage my decisions, I wouldn't even bother . Let's start with hiring 1 good guy and actually let him do his job. And see how that goes.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 05, 2011, 12:16:01 PM

Quote from: BH on October 05, 2011, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.
I'd rather have 2 than 1. But it's not a failure from the get go if they only get one guy.

Unless that guy is someone who's never done the job before. If they get Rick Hahn and no Gillick type, the odds won't be in that guy's favor.

I thought Ricketts wanted to hire someone with experience actually doing the job? If I were Theo or Friedman and the owner was insistent on also bringing in another GM-type to manage my decisions, I wouldn't even bother . Let's start with hiring 1 good guy and actually let him do his job. And see how that ~~goes~~ plays out.

Gimme that old time religion'd

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CT III on October 05, 2011, 12:18:15 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 05, 2011, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.
I'd rather have 2 than 1. But it's not a failure from the get go if they only get one guy.

Unless that guy is someone who's never done the job before. If they get Rick Hahn and no Gillick type, the odds won't be in that guy's favor.

I won't be happy unless the new GM hires an incredibly old person to tell them what to do either.

I think you guys are all forgetting about Oneri Fleita.

AND I WON'T LET YOU!

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: JD on October 05, 2011, 12:37:38 PM

JP Ricciardi. It's gonna hai. Write it down and look at it, y'all. Didja spell it right? I might not have.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: R-V on October 07, 2011, 08:54:58 AM

Teddy Eckstein to our Cubbiez (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/14841/henry-theo-is-not-going-to-be-gm-forever)?!

QuoteHenry may have offered one hint, however, at how the team will proceed when he said, "I think there is a certain shelf life to these jobs ... Theo is not going to be GM forever.''

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Brownie on October 07, 2011, 09:22:27 AM

If compensation is going to be required, can Theo place a call to our own Greg Maddux for pointers on how to engineer a trade involving oneself?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Gilgamesh on October 09, 2011, 10:56:45 AM

HEY, I TOTALLY SWAW DAT EPSTEIN GUY GETTIN A BANANA!!! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1009-gm-cubs-chicago--20111009,0,1309358.story)

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Tony on October 10, 2011, 01:49:51 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 09, 2011, 10:56:45 AM
HEY, I TOTALLY SWAW DAT EPSTEIN GUY GETTIN A BANANA!!! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1009-gm-cubs-chicago--20111009,0,1309358.story)

I saw him having dinner with Lebron at Gibson's.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 10, 2011, 02:39:51 PM

Quote from: Tony on October 10, 2011, 01:49:51 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 09, 2011, 10:56:45 AM
HEY, I TOTALLY SWAW DAT EPSTEIN GUY GETTIN A BANANA!!! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1009-gm-cubs-chicago--20111009,0,1309358.story)

I saw him having dinner with Lebron at Gibson's.

And I saw Mike and Frank Quade splitting a Super Rooty Tooty Fresh 'N Fruity at IHOP.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on October 10, 2011, 02:57:51 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 10, 2011, 02:39:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 10, 2011, 01:49:51 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 09, 2011, 10:56:45 AM
HEY, I TOTALLY SWAW DAT EPSTEIN GUY GETTIN A BANANA!!! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1009-gm-cubs-chicago--20111009,0,1309358.story)

I saw him having dinner with Lebron at Gibson's.

And I saw Mike and Frank Quade splitting a Super Rooty Tooty Fresh 'N Fruity at IHOP.

Frank Quade? Why that hairy motherfucker owes me a drink.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CT III on October 10, 2011, 03:36:53 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 10, 2011, 02:57:51 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 10, 2011, 02:39:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 10, 2011, 01:49:51 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 09, 2011, 10:56:45 AM
HEY, I TOTALLY SWAW DAT EPSTEIN GUY GETTIN A BANANA!!! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1009-gm-cubs-chicago--20111009,0,1309358.story)

I saw him having dinner with Lebron at Gibson's.

And I saw Mike and Frank Quade splitting a Super Rooty Tooty Fresh 'N Fruity at IHOP.

Frank Quade? Why that hairy motherfucker owes me a drink.

There will be plenty of time for him to buy drinks after he Generally Manages this team to the World Series.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM

Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM

Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM

Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 11, 2011, 08:16:40 PM

Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

Maybe the Sox would b interested in Jeremy Papelbon to complete the set.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on October 11, 2011, 08:23:10 PM

Speculation has really heated up over the last few hours. Of course no one has anything concrete to add. But real people like Gammons are chiming in.

I still think Jon Heyman is as retarded as Doc after an ether binge.

Of course, Red Sox fans are saying that they're fine with it and they're big fans of Ben Cherington. Of course they are. He's got an extensive resume to be proud of.

The real question? Did they even interview Frank Quade?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on October 11, 2011, 08:37:24 PM

Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

I really hope not.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Wheezer on October 11, 2011, 08:39:10 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 11, 2011, 08:23:10 PM
I still think Jon Heyman is as retarded as Doc after an ether binge.

I will say it yet again: Thompson's depiction of ether intoxication is fanciful at best.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: JD on October 11, 2011, 09:22:39 PM

Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

That's the only cubs prospect Gammons knows.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CT III on October 11, 2011, 09:33:54 PM

Quote from: JD on October 11, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

That's the only cubs prospect Gammons knows.

That's because he's the only Cubs prospect who exists.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Yeti on October 11, 2011, 10:36:01 PM

I'm most excited about seeing him walk in to Shitty's this year.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: smg on October 11, 2011, 11:02:35 PM

Quote from: CT III on October 11, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: JD on October 11, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

That's the only cubs prospect Gammons knows.

That's because he's the only Cubs prospect who exists.

I haven't paid enough attention to baseball this year to even know who Brett Jackson is, but if he's as untradeable as Felix Pie or Hee Seop Choi or Josh Vitters or any of those pitchers everyone was whining about trading in 05/06, then I say bring in the cute Jewish boy.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 11, 2011, 11:11:11 PM

Quote from: smg on October 11, 2011, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 11, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: JD on October 11, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

That's the only cubs prospect Gammons knows.

That's because he's the only Cubs prospect who exists.

I haven't paid enough attention to baseball this year to even know who Brett Jackson is, but if he's as untradeable as Felix Pie or Hee Seop Choi or Josh Vitters or any of those pitchers everyone was whining about trading in 05/06, then I say bring in the cute Jewish boy.

Vitters is untradeable because he's E-ramis' replacement.

Until Epstein guts the entire existing farm system oh please oh please

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 11, 2011, 11:19:21 PM

Quote from: smg on October 11, 2011, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 11, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: JD on October 11, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

That's the only cubs prospect Gammons knows.

That's because he's the only Cubs prospect who exists.

I haven't paid enough attention to baseball this year to even know who Brett Jackson is, but if he's as untradeable as Felix Pie or Hee Seop Choi or Josh Vitters or any of those pitchers everyone was whining about trading in 05/06, then I say bring in the cute Jewish boy.

Prime pitching prospects such as the Red Sox' very own Rich Hill? He's the next Barry Zito.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Richard Chuggar on October 12, 2011, 07:23:45 AM

Maybe we could trade him for some FRIED CHICKEN! (http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2011/10/11/red-sox-unity-dedication-dissolved-during-epic-late-season-collapse/KL4IT0morzpzJR0TsO1LsI/story.html)

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 07:58:51 AM

Bump: http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21147021/dc-theo-has-5-year-deal-cubs

QuoteWEEI's John Dennis reported Wednesday morning that Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein has agreed with the Cubs on a five-year deal worth more than $15 million.

According to Dennis' sources, the Red Sox granted the Cubs permission to talk with Epstein late last week. The deal is expected to be finalized by the end of this week, following negotiations for compensation with the Red Sox, who have Epstein under contract for one more season.

The Cubs apparently have not settled on a title for Epstein, who served as Red Sox GM for nine seasons.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BH on October 12, 2011, 08:23:49 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 07:58:51 AM
Bump: http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21147021/dc-theo-has-5-year-deal-cubs

QuoteWEEI's John Dennis reported Wednesday morning that Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein has agreed with the Cubs on a five-year deal worth more than $15 million.

According to Dennis' sources, the Red Sox granted the Cubs permission to talk with Epstein late last week. The deal is expected to be finalized by the end of this week, following negotiations for compensation with the Red Sox, who have Epstein under contract for one more season.

The Cubs apparently have not settled on a title for Epstein, who served as Red Sox GM for nine seasons.

No doubt they'll want Rudy Jaramillo. He's the best.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CT III on October 12, 2011, 08:28:12 AM

Quote from: BH on October 12, 2011, 08:23:49 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 07:58:51 AM
Bump: http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21147021/dc-theo-has-5-year-deal-cubs

QuoteWEEI's John Dennis reported Wednesday morning that Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein has agreed with the Cubs on a five-year deal worth more than $15 million.

According to Dennis' sources, the Red Sox granted the Cubs permission to talk with Epstein late last week. The deal is expected to be finalized by the end of this week, following negotiations for compensation with the Red Sox, who have Epstein under contract for one more season.

The Cubs apparently have not settled on a title for Epstein, who served as Red Sox GM for nine seasons.

No doubt they'll want Rudy Jaramillo. He's the best.

Fine, but hands off Oneri Fleita.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: R-V on October 12, 2011, 08:40:15 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 07:58:51 AM
Bump: http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21147021/dc-theo-has-5-year-deal-cubs

QuoteWEEI's John Dennis reported Wednesday morning that Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein has agreed with the Cubs on a five-year deal worth more than $15 million.

According to Dennis' sources, the Red Sox granted the Cubs permission to talk with Epstein late last week. The deal is expected to be finalized by the end of this week, following negotiations for compensation with the Red Sox, who have Epstein under contract for one more season.

The Cubs apparently have not settled on a title for Epstein, who served as Red Sox GM for nine seasons.

My pleats are bulging just at the thought of Epstein getting in here and not tolerating bullshit. Outstanding news.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BH on October 12, 2011, 08:41:48 AM

Jim Bowden says this is the same (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-gms-office/post?id=1908)as when the Cubs hired Andy Mcphail. Fck off man.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on October 12, 2011, 08:44:03 AM

Tom Ricketts is awesome. He came in and gave Hendry one last chance to redeem himself and when he didn't, he canned him (without anyone in the media having a clue about it). He said he would devote more spending to player development, then followed through by shelling out a ton of money on this year's draft. Then to replace Hendry, he went out and got one of the best GMs in baseball. Maybe the best GM in baseball.

In conclusion, shirtless man hugs for Tom Ricketts.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 08:48:09 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 08:44:03 AM
Tom Ricketts is awesome. He came in and gave Hendry one last chance to redeem himself and when he didn't, he canned him (without anyone in the media having a clue about it). He said he would devote more spending to player development, then followed through by shelling out a ton of money on this year's draft. Then to replace Hendry, he went out and got one of the best GMs in baseball. Maybe the best GM in baseball.

In conclusion, shirtless man hugs for Tom Ricketts.

This.

I can admit when I jumped to a wrong conclusion and change course.

Because I'm not Chuck.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Bort on October 12, 2011, 08:54:13 AM

THIS to all of THAT.

Guess it's time to hose off the FIREBARN until further notice.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Waco Kid on October 12, 2011, 08:55:17 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 08:44:03 AM
Tom Ricketts is awesome. He came in and gave Hendry one last chance to redeem himself and when he didn't, he canned him (without anyone in the media having a clue about it). He said he would devote more spending to player development, then followed through by shelling out a ton of money on this year's draft. Then to replace Hendry, he went out and got one of the best GMs in baseball. Maybe the best GM in baseball.

In conclusion, shirtless man hugs for Tom Ricketts.

I've been off the Ricketts' bandwagon for a while, but I give him alot of credit here for actually getting a top flight GM instead of throwing out big names and hiring some lousy candidate. Tom deserves shirtless man hugs for this hire.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 09:16:40 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on October 12, 2011, 08:55:17 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 08:44:03 AM
Tom Ricketts is awesome. He came in and gave Hendry one last chance to redeem himself and when he didn't, he canned him (without anyone in the media having a clue about it). He said he would devote more spending to player development, then followed through by shelling out a ton of money on this year's draft. Then to replace Hendry, he went out and got one of the best GMs in baseball. Maybe the best GM in baseball.

In conclusion, shirtless man hugs for Tom Ricketts.

I've been off the Ricketts' bandwagon for a while, but I give him alot of credit here for actually getting a top flight GM instead of throwing out big names and hiring some lousy candidate. Tom deserves shirtless man hugs for this hire.

About that... Frank's got a special shampoo that he's using now. But, when you've got that much hair, a few stray nits are almost unavoidable.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Brownie on October 12, 2011, 09:24:59 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 08:44:03 AM
Tom Ricketts is awesome. He came in and gave Hendry one last chance to redeem himself and when he didn't, he canned him (without anyone in the media having a clue about it). He said he would devote more spending to player development, then followed through by shelling out a ton of money on this year's draft. Then to replace Hendry, he went out and got one of the best GMs in baseball. Maybe the best GM in baseball.

In conclusion, shirtless man hugs for Tom Ricketts.

I'm not sure I'd give Hendry one last chance, but the Cubs might have looked a lot closer to respectability in October 2009. So, sure, maybe I was wrong. Maybe.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: flannj on October 12, 2011, 09:40:01 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 08:44:03 AM
Tom Ricketts is awesome. He came in and gave Hendry one last chance to redeem himself and when he didn't, he canned him (without anyone in the media having a clue about it). He said he would devote more spending to player development, then followed through by shelling out a ton of money on this year's draft. Then to replace Hendry, he went out and got one of the best GMs in baseball. Maybe the best GM in baseball.

In conclusion, shirtless man hugs for Tom Ricketts.

Please tell me Crane Kenney is gone with this move.
9 months or so too late on the Hendry firing but otherwise I'm impressed.

I'm not sure how to handle this feeling.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: BH on October 12, 2011, 09:48:54 AM

Quote from: flannj on October 12, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 08:44:03 AM
Tom Ricketts is awesome. He came in and gave Hendry one last chance to redeem himself and when he didn't, he canned him (without anyone in the media having a clue about it). He said he would devote more spending to player development, then followed through by shelling out a ton of money on this year's draft. Then to replace Hendry, he went out and got one of the best GMs in baseball. Maybe the best GM in baseball.

In conclusion, shirtless man hugs for Tom Ricketts.

Please tell me Crane Kenney is gone with this move.
9 months or so too late on the Hendry firing but otherwise I'm impressed.

I'm not sure how to handle this feeling.

Well, to be fair, Yeti knew Hendry was fired long before even Hendry knew.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 12, 2011, 09:52:15 AM

I haven't been this excited about a GM since the Cubs hired Dallas Green.

Here's hoping he scraps the organization and rebuilds with a philosophy toward getting hitters who get on base and pitchers who throw stikes and get guys out.

It might just be crazy enough to work.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on October 12, 2011, 09:55:27 AM

Quote from: flannj on October 12, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Please tell me Crane Kenney is gone with this move.

The story seems to be that Theo and Crane report directly to Ricketts with no cross-responsibilities.

Quote
I'm not sure how to handle this feeling.

The same way we all felt two years ago when the Ricketts took over.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 10:10:38 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 12, 2011, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: flannj on October 12, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Please tell me Crane Kenney is gone with this move.

The story seems to be that Theo and Crane report directly to Ricketts with no cross-responsibilities.

According to whom?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: R-V on October 12, 2011, 10:12:05 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 10:10:38 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 12, 2011, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: flannj on October 12, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Please tell me Crane Kenney is gone with this move.

The story seems to be that Theo and Crane report directly to Ricketts with no cross-responsibilities.

According to whom?

Chuck doesn't have the data in front of him.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: flannj on October 12, 2011, 10:15:54 AM

QuoteThe story seems to be that Theo and Crane report directly to Ricketts with no cross-responsibilities.

So Theo is not going to be Club President?
Or are the Cubs going to have two Club Presidents?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Brownie on October 12, 2011, 10:29:16 AM

Quote from: flannj on October 12, 2011, 10:15:54 AM

QuoteThe story seems to be that Theo and Crane report directly to Ricketts with no cross-responsibilities.

So Theo is not going to be Club President?
Or are the Cubs going to have two Club Presidents?

It'll be like it was when there were two Popes. They'll send Crane Kenny to Avignon, France to be president and make decisions, and Todd will be there with his French wife to ride his bike and keep an eye on Crane. Meanwhile, Theo can be President here.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Bort on October 12, 2011, 10:47:25 AM

I'm ok withTJ's plan.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 10:53:26 AM

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7091803/sources-theo-epstein-agrees-five-year-deal-chicago-cubs-leave-boston-red-sox

QuoteAccording to sources, Major League Baseball expressed great concern over the compensation package because they do not want this deal to affect how other teams compete in the market for front-office personnel.

A source with knowledge of the talks told ESPN's Karl Ravech Tuesday that the compensation would involve prospects and/or cash, but no major league players would be part of the deal, following traditional precedent.

Also: nearly $20MM according to Olney's sources.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on October 12, 2011, 11:02:34 AM

This is from Kaplan, so whatever. But still, it's hard not to like everything that's said here (http://www.csnchicago.com/baseball-chicago-cubs/news/Kaplan-Epstein-blown-away-by-Ricketts-lo?blockID=576086&feedID=661).

QuoteRicketts outlined his plan to build through the farm system while also spending wisely on the acquisition of veteran stars who can make an immediate impact on the Cubs. In fact, sources tell us that Ricketts is not opposed to spending big money on a star player, but for him to sign a mega contract the player must fit long-term with the organization. The acquisition of Adrian Gonzalez by the Red Sox is the type of player and commitment that Ricketts is willing to take on with the Cubs. He looks at Gonzalez as a star player, in the prime of his career and a player who is solid both offensively and defensively in addition to being a person of impeccable character. When opportunities like that come along he wants his Cubs to be in a position to make a move for a superstar. It was that willingness to spend when it makes sense in addition to the increased power and salary that will come with his contract that sold Epstein on Ricketts vision for the organization.

In addition, Tom Ricketts stressed to Epstein that the family was committed to the Cubs long term and that it wanted to build the franchise the right way. Not trying to quick-fix the major league roster to improve the record. Instead, he showed Epstein his plans for a new spring training complex, a new state of the art academy in the talent rich Dominican Republic, a long term plan for renovating Wrigley Field and thus increasing revenue streams that will impact the major league payroll. Additionally, Ricketts told Epstein of his family's willingness to spend heavily in the draft and on international signings which should translate to a rapidly improving farm system.

Add it all up and sources tell me that Epstein was "blown away" by Ricketts level of commitment, research, and willingness to spend on the developmental side of the game. Add in the long term contract that he will receive along with more power than he has ever had in Boston and the move was a no-brainer from a professional standpoint.

Bring it in, Tom Ricketts. Taste the happy.

(http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp307/sweetbrista/AD/GIF/tears.gif)

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Tony on October 12, 2011, 11:12:11 AM

So is the dork thing just an act? I like this new Ricketts.

Also....is Theo going to have the power to stop all the singing at the ballpark?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: PenPho on October 12, 2011, 11:19:15 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 12, 2011, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: flannj on October 12, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Please tell me Crane Kenney is gone with this move.

The story seems to be that Theo and Crane report directly to Ricketts with no cross-responsibilities.

Quote
I'm not sure how to handle this feeling.

The same way we all felt two years ago when the Ricketts took over.

No.

That day felt like a day of happiness that the last regime was over and uncertainty about the future.

This day feels like steakballs covered in titsauce.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 11:35:21 AM

Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2011, 11:12:11 AM
Also....is Theo going to have the power to stop all the singing at the ballpark?

I'm guessing no.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Brownie on October 12, 2011, 11:38:01 AM

Cubs moves that excited me:
1) Cubs sign Andre Dawson
2) Cubs draft Mark Prior
3) Cubs trade for Nomar Garciaparra
4) Cubs trade Leon Durham for Pat Perry and call up Mark Grace
5) Cubs call up Kerry Wood
6) Joe Carter and Mel Hall for Sutcliffe, Frazier, Hassey et al.
7) Cubs re-sign Greg Maddux
8) Cubs fire Chip Caray
9) Cubs hire Don Baylor/Dusty Baker/Lou Piniella
10) Cubs fire Hendry
11) Cubs fire Zimmer
12) Cubs trade for Fred McGriff
13) Cubs trade George Bell for Sosa
14) Cubs sign George Bell
15) Cubs sign Ted Lilly
16) Cubs hire Larry Himes
17) Cubs hire Jim Essian
18) Cubs trade for Scott Sanderson
19) Cubs trade Brant Brown for Jon Lieber straight-up
20) Cubs trade Ryan Theriot -- even if they had to send Lilly away too.
21) Cubs trade for Ramirez and Lofton
22) Cubs sign Randy Myers
23) Cubs fire Larry Himes
24) Cubs hire Andy MacPhail
25) Cubs sign Moises Alou
26) Cubs fire Ed Lynch
27) Cubs trade Mikey Barrett
28) Cubs sign Soriano
29) Cubs trade Crazy Julian to Marlins for Alfonseca and Clement
30) Cubs trade Felix Heredia for Alex Gonzalez

I'm sure there are others, but the point is, nothing comes close to Cubs hiring Theo Epstein.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on October 12, 2011, 11:40:27 AM

I'm close to caring again. Bravo, Ricketts.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: PenPho on October 12, 2011, 11:48:44 AM

Quote from: Brownie on October 12, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
Cubs moves that excited me:
1) Cubs sign Andre Dawson
2) Cubs draft Mark Prior
3) Cubs trade for Nomar Garciaparra
4) Cubs trade Leon Durham for Pat Perry and call up Mark Grace
5) Cubs call up Kerry Wood
6) Joe Carter and Mel Hall for Sutcliffe, Frazier, Hassey et al.
7) Cubs re-sign Greg Maddux
8) Cubs fire Chip Caray
9) Cubs hire Don Baylor/Dusty Baker/Lou Piniella
10) Cubs fire Hendry
11) Cubs fire Zimmer
12) Cubs trade for Fred McGriff
13) Cubs trade George Bell for Sosa
14) Cubs sign George Bell
15) Cubs sign Ted Lilly
16) Cubs hire Larry Himes
17) Cubs hire Jim Essian
18) Cubs trade for Scott Sanderson
19) Cubs trade Brant Brown for Jon Lieber straight-up
20) Cubs trade Ryan Theriot -- even if they had to send Lilly away too.
21) Cubs trade for Ramirez and Lofton
22) Cubs sign Randy Myers
23) Cubs fire Larry Himes
24) Cubs hire Andy MacPhail
25) Cubs sign Moises Alou
26) Cubs fire Ed Lynch
27) Cubs trade Mikey Barrett
28) Cubs sign Soriano
29) Cubs trade Crazy Julian to Marlins for Alfonseca and Clement
30) Cubs trade Felix Heredia for Alex Gonzalez

I'm sure there are others, but the point is, nothing comes close to Cubs hiring Theo Epstein.

I was pretty excited when they signed Fukudome as well.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Tonker on October 12, 2011, 11:49:00 AM

Quote from: Brownie on October 12, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
Cubs moves that excited me:
1) Cubs sign Andre Dawson
2) Cubs draft Mark Prior
3) Cubs trade for Nomar Garciaparra
4) Cubs trade Leon Durham for Pat Perry and call up Mark Grace
5) Cubs call up Kerry Wood
6) Joe Carter and Mel Hall for Sutcliffe, Frazier, Hassey et al.
7) Cubs re-sign Greg Maddux
8) Cubs fire Chip Caray
9) Cubs hire Don Baylor/Dusty Baker/Lou Piniella
10) Cubs fire Hendry
11) Cubs fire Zimmer
12) Cubs trade for Fred McGriff
13) Cubs trade George Bell for Sosa
14) Cubs sign George Bell
15) Cubs sign Ted Lilly
16) Cubs hire Larry Himes
17) Cubs hire Jim Essian
18) Cubs trade for Scott Sanderson
19) Cubs trade Brant Brown for Jon Lieber straight-up
20) Cubs trade Ryan Theriot -- even if they had to send Lilly away too.
21) Cubs trade for Ramirez and Lofton
22) Cubs sign Randy Myers
23) Cubs fire Larry Himes
24) Cubs hire Andy MacPhail
25) Cubs sign Moises Alou
26) Cubs fire Ed Lynch
27) Cubs trade Mikey Barrett
28) Cubs sign Soriano
29) Cubs trade Crazy Julian to Marlins for Alfonseca and Clement
30) Cubs trade Felix Heredia for Alex Gonzalez

I'm sure there are others, but the point is, nothing comes close to Cubs hiring Theo Epstein.

I was even excited when the Cubs traded for Ismael Valdez, so tonight I'm going wank my balls flat.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Waco Kid on October 12, 2011, 11:49:10 AM

Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2011, 11:12:11 AM
So is the dork thing just an act? I like this new Ricketts.

Also....is Theo going to have the power to stop all the singing at the ballpark?

If it was act then Ricketts should win an Oscar for it.

We've gone from nacho helmets to hiring Theo Epstein.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 12, 2011, 12:00:48 PM

Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2011, 11:12:11 AM
So is the dork thing just an act? I like this new Ricketts.

Also....is Theo going to have the power to stop all the singing at the ballpark?

I'd still rather Ricketts keep making moves like this behind the scenes and stay off the broadcasts. Joyful positive.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CBStew on October 12, 2011, 01:30:42 PM

Quote from: Brownie on October 12, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
Cubs moves that excited me:
1) Cubs sign Andre Dawson
2) Cubs draft Mark Prior
3) Cubs trade for Nomar Garciaparra
4) Cubs trade Leon Durham for Pat Perry and call up Mark Grace
5) Cubs call up Kerry Wood
6) Joe Carter and Mel Hall for Sutcliffe, Frazier, Hassey et al.
7) Cubs re-sign Greg Maddux
8) Cubs fire Chip Caray
9) Cubs hire Don Baylor/Dusty Baker/Lou Piniella
10) Cubs fire Hendry
11) Cubs fire Zimmer
12) Cubs trade for Fred McGriff
13) Cubs trade George Bell for Sosa
14) Cubs sign George Bell
15) Cubs sign Ted Lilly
16) Cubs hire Larry Himes
17) Cubs hire Jim Essian
18) Cubs trade for Scott Sanderson
19) Cubs trade Brant Brown for Jon Lieber straight-up
20) Cubs trade Ryan Theriot -- even if they had to send Lilly away too.
21) Cubs trade for Ramirez and Lofton
22) Cubs sign Randy Myers
23) Cubs fire Larry Himes
24) Cubs hire Andy MacPhail
25) Cubs sign Moises Alou
26) Cubs fire Ed Lynch
27) Cubs trade Mikey Barrett
28) Cubs sign Soriano
29) Cubs trade Crazy Julian to Marlins for Alfonseca and Clement
30) Cubs trade Felix Heredia for Alex Gonzalez

I'm sure there are others, but the point is, nothing comes close to Cubs hiring Theo Epstein.

The Cubs bring up Gene Baker to play second base. (And bring along some other guy to be his roommate.)

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 01:39:21 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 12, 2011, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 12, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
Cubs moves that excited me:
1) Cubs sign Andre Dawson
2) Cubs draft Mark Prior
3) Cubs trade for Nomar Garciaparra
4) Cubs trade Leon Durham for Pat Perry and call up Mark Grace
5) Cubs call up Kerry Wood
6) Joe Carter and Mel Hall for Sutcliffe, Frazier, Hassey et al.
7) Cubs re-sign Greg Maddux
8) Cubs fire Chip Caray
9) Cubs hire Don Baylor/Dusty Baker/Lou Piniella
10) Cubs fire Hendry
11) Cubs fire Zimmer
12) Cubs trade for Fred McGriff
13) Cubs trade George Bell for Sosa
14) Cubs sign George Bell
15) Cubs sign Ted Lilly
16) Cubs hire Larry Himes
17) Cubs hire Jim Essian
18) Cubs trade for Scott Sanderson
19) Cubs trade Brant Brown for Jon Lieber straight-up
20) Cubs trade Ryan Theriot -- even if they had to send Lilly away too.
21) Cubs trade for Ramirez and Lofton
22) Cubs sign Randy Myers
23) Cubs fire Larry Himes
24) Cubs hire Andy MacPhail
25) Cubs sign Moises Alou
26) Cubs fire Ed Lynch
27) Cubs trade Mikey Barrett
28) Cubs sign Soriano
29) Cubs trade Crazy Julian to Marlins for Alfonseca and Clement
30) Cubs trade Felix Heredia for Alex Gonzalez

I'm sure there are others, but the point is, nothing comes close to Cubs hiring Theo Epstein.

The Cubs bring up Gene Baker to play second base. (And bring along some other guy to be his roommate.)

I was really excited when the Cubs managed to get value for the separate Mel Rojas and Todd Hundley deals. But again, that's like breaking your own leg and then being lucky enough to have the tools to fix it.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 12, 2011, 02:26:23 PM

Quote from: Fork on October 12, 2011, 09:52:15 AM

I haven't been this excited about a GM since the Cubs hired Dallas Green.

Here's hoping he scraps the organization and rebuilds with a philosophy toward getting hitters who get on base and pitchers who throw stikes and get guys out.

It might just be crazy enough to work.

This situation is a lot like the one the Cubs were in when Green was hired. The way the team was operating under Wrigley clearly wasn't working and a complete makeover of the way the franchise operated was necessary. That same level of change is required now. Epstein has the chance to do just that and hopefully last longer than Green did.

His first move should be to shoot Crane Fucking Kenney.

Ricketts may actually know what he's doing.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on October 12, 2011, 02:39:27 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 12, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
His first move should be to shoot Crane Fucking Kenney.

No, his first move should be to worry about the on-field product, which Crane Kenney hasn't, doesn't and won't have anything to do with.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: PenPho on October 12, 2011, 02:42:50 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 12, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
His first move should be to shoot Crane Fucking Kenney.

No, his first move should be to worry about the on-field product, which Crane Kenney hasn't, doesn't and won't have anything to do with.

You mean first AFTER the coke-fueled stripper binge, right?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CT III on October 12, 2011, 02:55:09 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 12, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
His first move should be to shoot Crane Fucking Kenney.

No, his first move should be to worry about the on-field product, which Crane Kenney hasn't, doesn't and won't have anything to do with.

Eh, he can fire Crane first. I mean, he can't make any player moves until after the World Series anyway.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 03:04:19 PM

Quote from: CT III on October 12, 2011, 02:55:09 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 12, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
His first move should be to shoot Crane Fucking Kenney.

No, his first move should be to worry about the on-field product, which Crane Kenney hasn't, doesn't and won't have anything to do with.

Eh, he can fire Crane first. I mean, he can't make any player moves until after the World Series anyway.

Can he make front office hires before then?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 03:23:01 PM

I'm excited for the press conference to find out if he was indeed at Starbucks and then just to hear his take on how everything went down and what the big picture looks like for him.

Then I'm excited for him to send Mike Quade and Apex's hopes and dreams into the abyss of failure.

From there, I'm guessing, it's all downhill.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CBStew on October 12, 2011, 03:41:30 PM

None of this matters. We are talking about the Cubs.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 04:05:01 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 12, 2011, 03:41:30 PM
None of this matters. We are talking about the Cubs.

You sound like a regular Joe Mantegna.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 04:23:04 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 12, 2011, 03:41:30 PM
None of this matters. We are talking about the Cubs.

You sound like a regular Joe Mantegna.

Or a Greg Couch. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Theo-Epstein-general-manager-Chicago-Cubs-still-destined-to-fail-101211)

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Oleg on October 12, 2011, 05:00:03 PM

Quote from: smg on October 11, 2011, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 11, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: JD on October 11, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

That's the only cubs prospect Gammons knows.

That's because he's the only Cubs prospect who exists.

I haven't paid enough attention to baseball this year to even know who Brett Jackson is, but if he's as untradeable as Felix Pie or Hee Seop Choi or Josh Vitters or any of those pitchers everyone was whining about trading in 05/06, then I say bring in the cute Jewish boy.

Hi. Wait...cute, huh?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 05:02:04 PM

Quote from: Oleg on October 12, 2011, 05:00:03 PM
Quote from: smg on October 11, 2011, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 11, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: JD on October 11, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 11, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 11, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Boston Herald reporting that Theo is "on the brink" (http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1372633&position=0) of joining the Cubs.

Still to determine:
- Compensation for Sox (Soto and Grabow FTW)
- How many titles they'll have to invent beyond GM to give Theo

The Cubs have to take John Lackey.

Gammons speculating Brett Jackson on Twitter.

That's the only cubs prospect Gammons knows.

That's because he's the only Cubs prospect who exists.

I haven't paid enough attention to baseball this year to even know who Brett Jackson is, but if he's as untradeable as Felix Pie or Hee Seop Choi or Josh Vitters or any of those pitchers everyone was whining about trading in 05/06, then I say bring in the cute Jewish boy.

Hi. Wait...cute, huh?

http://hirejimessian.com/2011/10/12/cubs-officially-run-out-of-excuses/

Quote6. Do you suppose there will be girls in the bleachers with "THEO, WILL YOU MARRY ME? <3″ signs next year? Because I suppose there WILL be.

It's gotta hai.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 05:36:24 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 12, 2011, 03:41:30 PM
None of this matters. We are talking about the Cubs.

You sound like a regular Joe Mantegna.

Or a Greg Couch. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Theo-Epstein-general-manager-Chicago-Cubs-still-destined-to-fail-101211)

Not as bile inducing as I expected for something with "Cubbies" in the title. I hate Greg Couch but he's basically writing the same thing I wrote but more drawn out and from the perspective of a three year old.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 06:20:41 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 05:36:24 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 12, 2011, 03:41:30 PM
None of this matters. We are talking about the Cubs.

You sound like a regular Joe Mantegna.

Or a Greg Couch. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Theo-Epstein-general-manager-Chicago-Cubs-still-destined-to-fail-101211)

Not as bile inducing as I expected for something with "Cubbies" in the title. I hate Greg Couch but he's basically writing the same thing I wrote but more drawn out and from the perspective of a three year old.

Has everyone read Rosenbloom's latest bout of Chuckery then?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-theo-epstein-is-right-for-wrong-reasons-20111012,0,7931901.column

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: fiveouts on October 12, 2011, 07:38:06 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2011, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 12, 2011, 03:41:30 PM
None of this matters. We are talking about the Cubs.

You sound like a regular Joe Mantegna.

Or a Greg Couch. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Theo-Epstein-general-manager-Chicago-Cubs-still-destined-to-fail-101211)

Love this sentence:

QuoteNow, Tom Ricketts, and his family, own and run the team, and it's nice to have a beating heart, someone who grew up caring about the Cubs, in charge. But he has yet to show any direction or plan.

Other than doing EXACTLY what he said he was going to do when he bought the team, i.e. beef up the scouting staff, spend more in the draft, increase the Latin American presence, and build a new Spring Training home...no, Ricketts has no plan.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Internet Apex on October 13, 2011, 01:09:03 PM

Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2011, 03:23:01 PM
I'm excited for the press conference to find out if he was indeed at Starbucks and then just to hear his take on how everything went down and what the big picture looks like for him.

Then I'm excited for him to send Mike Quade and Apex's hopes and dreams into the abyss of failure.

From there, I'm guessing, it's all downhill.

Join the fucking club.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: CT III on October 24, 2011, 07:18:02 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 12, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
His first move should be to shoot Crane Fucking Kenney.

No, his first move should be to worry about the on-field product, which Crane Kenney hasn't, doesn't and won't have anything to do with.

Okay, maybe his first move SHOULD be to fire Crane Kenney...

http://twitter.com/#!/dan_bernstein/status/127754973659410432

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Bort on October 24, 2011, 07:21:52 PM

Quote from: CT III on October 24, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2011, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 12, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
His first move should be to shoot Crane Fucking Kenney.

No, his first move should be to worry about the on-field product, which Crane Kenney hasn't, doesn't and won't have anything to do with.

Okay, maybe his first move SHOULD be to fire Crane Kenney...

http://twitter.com/#!/dan_bernstein/status/127754973659410432

Nice link, Morph.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

Officially official...

http://www.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20111026&content_id=25802172&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

QuoteCHICAGO -- The Chicago Cubs and San Diego Padres jointly announce today that Jed Hoyer and Jason McLeod will leave the Padres, effective immediately, to accept positions with the Cubs. The Cubs have agreed to send the Padres a player to be named later as compensation.

Both the Cubs and the Padres intend to hold press conferences after the World Series. The Cubs intend to announce Hoyer as Executive Vice President/General Manager and McLeod as Senior Vice President/Scouting and Player Development, while the Padres intend to announce Josh Byrnes as Hoyer's successor.

Out of respect for the World Series, both clubs have agreed to forego further comment until holding their respective news conferences after the World Series is complete.

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Eli on October 27, 2011, 09:38:40 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Even Chuck agrees that this is a terrible idea.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Slaky on October 27, 2011, 09:51:40 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 27, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Even Chuck agrees that this is a terrible idea.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO. THEY'VE FUCKED IT ALL UP.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:17:55 AM

Quote from: Slaky on October 27, 2011, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 27, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Even Chuck agrees that this is a terrible idea.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO. THEY'VE FUCKED IT ALL UP.

Chuck thinks this is Ricketts' biggest boner since he let Crane get away with bringing in that Greek priest back in 2008 (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p140769341&date=2011-10-26#p140769341).

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 27, 2011, 10:19:06 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 27, 2011, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 27, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Even Chuck agrees that this is a terrible idea.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO. THEY'VE FUCKED IT ALL UP.

Chuck thinks this is Ricketts' biggest boner since he let Crane get away with bringing in that Greek priest back in 2008 (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p140769341&date=2011-10-26#p140769341).

I heard he's also blaming Ricketts for the College of Coaches.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: Gilgamesh on October 27, 2011, 10:27:19 AM

Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2011, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 27, 2011, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 27, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Even Chuck agrees that this is a terrible idea.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO. THEY'VE FUCKED IT ALL UP.

Chuck thinks this is Ricketts' biggest boner since he let Crane get away with bringing in that Greek priest back in 2008 (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p140769341&date=2011-10-26#p140769341).

I heard he's also blaming Ricketts for the College of Coaches.

Laugh all you want, but Chuck knows that Ricketts was the black cat in '69.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 03:47:16 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 27, 2011, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 27, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Even Chuck agrees that this is a terrible idea.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO. THEY'VE FUCKED IT ALL UP.

Chuck thinks this is Ricketts' biggest boner since he let Crane get away with bringing in that Greek priest back in 2008 (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p140769341&date=2011-10-26#p140769341).

Also bump.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on January 07, 2012, 09:27:31 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 03:47:16 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 27, 2011, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 27, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Even Chuck agrees that this is a terrible idea.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO. THEY'VE FUCKED IT ALL UP.

Chuck thinks this is Ricketts' biggest boner since he let Crane get away with bringing in that Greek priest back in 2008 (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p140769341&date=2011-10-26#p140769341).

Also bump.

Fairness compels me to say that Chuck may have actually sort of been kind of...right (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7887.msg246384#msg246384)?

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.
I'd rather have 2 than 1. But it's not a failure from the get go if they only get one guy.

Unless that guy is someone who's never done the job before. If they get Rick Hahn and no Gillick type, the odds won't be in that guy's favor.

Granted, his wet dream--cost, obviously aside--was Theo and Friedman but they did essentially hire 2 (or 3, if you include McLeod, though I'm really thinking 2 hires instead of 1 President/GM).

This is a great thread to read through, BTW, esepcially if you'd like to see the range of psychotic emotions we all possess.

Title: Re: Who will be the next GM?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on January 07, 2012, 10:22:01 AM

Quote from: PANK! on January 07, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 03:47:16 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2011, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 27, 2011, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 27, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 26, 2011, 10:13:44 PM

[ shakes head and rubs eyes ]

THREE baseball guys?

Even Chuck agrees that this is a terrible idea.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO. THEY'VE FUCKED IT ALL UP.

Chuck thinks this is Ricketts' biggest boner since he let Crane get away with bringing in that Greek priest back in 2008 (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p140769341&date=2011-10-26#p140769341).

Also bump.

Fairness compels me to say that Chuck may have actually sort of been kind of...right (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7887.msg246384#msg246384)?

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 05, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Ah, Theo isn't that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Chuck has already moved the goalposts to decree that the new regime will be a failure unless we get TWO, count em TWO, baseball guys.
I'd rather have 2 than 1. But it's not a failure from the get go if they only get one guy.

Unless that guy is someone who's never done the job before. If they get Rick Hahn and no Gillick type, the odds won't be in that guy's favor.

Granted, his wet dream--cost, obviously aside--was Theo and Friedman but they did essentially hire 2 (or 3, if you include McLeod, though I'm really thinking 2 hires instead of 1 President/GM).

This is a great thread to read through, BTW, esepcially if you'd like to see the range of psychotic emotions we all possess.

We already covered that ground when Chuck declared VICTORY back in October. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7938.msg246878#msg246878)

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