So Jamal Crawford? Or Aaron Affalo? Caron Butler? Nick Young?
Who is going to save our butts in the SG spot? And will Jerry really open up his purse?
Quote from: BH on December 05, 2011, 09:46:05 AM
So Jamal Crawford? Or Aaron Affalo? Caron Butler? Nick Young?
Who is going to save our butts in the SG spot? And will Jerry really open up his purse?
I don't know but the Bulls coming back gives me a chub.
Quote from: Slaky on December 05, 2011, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: BH on December 05, 2011, 09:46:05 AM
So Jamal Crawford? Or Aaron Affalo? Caron Butler? Nick Young?
Who is going to save our butts in the SG spot? And will Jerry really open up his purse?
I don't know but the Bulls coming back gives me a chub.
Jason Richardson
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 05, 2011, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 05, 2011, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: BH on December 05, 2011, 09:46:05 AM
So Jamal Crawford? Or Aaron Affalo? Caron Butler? Nick Young?
Who is going to save our butts in the SG spot? And will Jerry really open up his purse?
I don't know but the Bulls coming back gives me a chub.
Jason Richardson
He says he wants a championship, he'd have to take a paycut to $5 million to play on the bulls.. I don't want Vinsanity...
Ideally I'd want a young SG like affalo, nick young, monta ellis, OJ mayo....
Quote from: BH on December 05, 2011, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 05, 2011, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 05, 2011, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: BH on December 05, 2011, 09:46:05 AM
So Jamal Crawford? Or Aaron Affalo? Caron Butler? Nick Young?
Who is going to save our butts in the SG spot? And will Jerry really open up his purse?
I don't know but the Bulls coming back gives me a chub.
Jason Richardson
He says he wants a championship, he'd have to take a paycut to $5 million to play on the bulls.. I don't want Vinsanity...
Ideally I'd want a young SG like affalo, nick young, monta ellis, OJ mayo....
Ideally, I'd like Afflalo - but half the Nuggets' roster is stuck in China so it'll have to be a huge offer to pry him away as he's restricted, if I remember correctly.
Thoughts on Rip Hamilton? I like the move, seems like a good fit. D12 and Rip, make it happen!
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 07:33:06 AM
Thoughts on Rip Hamilton? I like the move, seems like a good fit. D12 and Rip, make it happen!
People are being pretty annoying about the Bulls right now. I get it, Reinsdorf hates winning and Rose is going to leave soon because he wants a title and Uncle Jer refuses to pay a luxury tax by overpaying some guy who would make the Bulls instachamps.
Whatever.
The Bulls are the same team as last year and they won 62 games.
Quote from: Slaky on December 12, 2011, 09:02:52 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 07:33:06 AM
Thoughts on Rip Hamilton? I like the move, seems like a good fit. D12 and Rip, make it happen!
People are being pretty annoying about the Bulls right now. I get it, Reinsdorf hates winning and Rose is going to leave soon because he wants a title and Uncle Jer refuses to pay a luxury tax by overpaying some guy who would make the Bulls instachamps.
Whatever.
The Bulls are the same team as last year and they won 62 games.
I was actually kidding about howard.. he's made it pretty clear where he wants to play.. and chicago has never been mentioned.
would be great to have him, but screw him if he thinks he wants to be in movies. I agree with jerry actually, no sense paying luxury tax unless you get pieces worthy of paying it... crawford isn't worth paying a luxury tax.
only howard is.
Having rip is a good upgrade from bogans, from a scoring perspective.
we won 62 games with boozer and noah being hurt for most of the year. And asik learning how to play basketball.
We should be a much better team this year.
It's not this single instance of Reinsdorf refusing to pay the tax, it's that he's consistently refused to pay the tax despite owning the most profitable franchise in the NBA. Years ago, he actually said something about how the White Sox are his passion and the Bulls are a business investment for him. His actions over time have reinforced that.
Maybe there's a reason Howard (and every other superstar) apparently doesn't want to come to Chicago.
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 09:37:20 AM
It's not this single instance of Reinsdorf refusing to pay the tax, it's that he's consistently refused to pay the tax despite owning the most profitable franchise in the NBA. Years ago, he actually said something about how the White Sox are his passion and the Bulls are a business investment for him. His actions over time have reinforced that.
Maybe there's a reason Howard (and every other superstar) apparently doesn't want to come to Chicago.
He's been cheap since Jordan, but he appears to have a renewed energy in making this team a championship team.
I have no doubt we went all in last year trying to get lebron and/or wade.
I don't think Jerry's history is a reason Howard isn't considering Chicago.
Howard wants to be a hollywood star plain and simple. If he cared about winning, Chicago would have do be a team he'd want to join.
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 09:37:20 AM
It's not this single instance of Reinsdorf refusing to pay the tax, it's that he's consistently refused to pay the tax despite owning the most profitable franchise in the NBA. Years ago, he actually said something about how the White Sox are his passion and the Bulls are a business investment for him. His actions over time have reinforced that.
Maybe there's a reason Howard (and every other superstar) apparently doesn't want to come to Chicago.
I'm with BH. I'm not a Reinsdorf slurper by any means but overpaying someone/spending a ton of money doesn't = a better team.
I actually forgot that Noah missed a huge chunk of last season and they still won almost every game.
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 09:47:29 AM
He's been cheap since Jordan, but he appears to have a renewed energy in making this team a championship team.
Based on what?
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 09:47:29 AM
He's been cheap since Jordan, but he appears to have a renewed energy in making this team a championship team.
Based on what?
He's predicted multiple championships with Rose. Rose is going to finish his extension this year.
He got the best coach on the market last year. He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
Like Slaky, I've always hated Reinsdorf, but I think he actually sees the money he can make with a championship team.
But there is a difference between paying the luxury tax for a mediocre player like crawford, and paying it for a big time
player like lebron, wade and howard.
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 09:47:29 AM
He's been cheap since Jordan, but he appears to have a renewed energy in making this team a championship team.
Based on what?
He's predicted multiple championships with Rose. Rose is going to finish his extension this year.
He got the best coach on the market last year. He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
Like Slaky, I've always hated Reinsdorf, but I think he actually sees the money he can make with a championship team.
But there is a difference between paying the luxury tax for a mediocre player like crawford, and paying it for a big time
player like lebron, wade and howard.
Like Dolan said, people are really that mad the Bulls didn't sign Richardson or Crawford for FOUR years? I'm not remotely upset about that. What a fucking waste.
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
Yeah. it sucks being the person who throws the cold water of reality on everyone.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 12, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
Yeah. it sucks being the person who throws the cold water of reality on everyone.
It's true. I'm already exhausted. No idea how you do it.
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 12, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
Yeah. it sucks being the person who throws the cold water of reality on everyone.
It's true. I'm already exhausted. No idea how you do it.
We led the league in wins last year with a new coach, a 2nd year player who greatly elevated his game and our starting center (Noah) and Boozer being hurt most of the year. In a shortened season, I think the Bulls depth will only help them. Calm down Fro. If we don't get Howard, we aren't going to suck.
If the Bulls want somebody to shoot 3's that DRose kicks out to him when he draws a double team as he slashes to the hoop, Rip Hamilton is not that guy. Rip Hamilton is a chase me around 4 picks to get open and make a 15 foot jump shot. Do the Bulls really need that guy?
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 11:55:33 AM
If we don't get Howard, we aren't going to suck.
Never said they would.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on December 12, 2011, 12:13:44 PM
If the Bulls want somebody to shoot 3's that DRose kicks out to him when he draws a double team as he slashes to the hoop, Rip Hamilton is not that guy. Rip Hamilton is a chase me around 4 picks to get open and make a 15 foot jump shot. Do the Bulls really need that guy?
The bulls need someone to shoot 3s? I thought that was Korver's job. The Bulls need an actual scoring threat who can create their own shot, handle the ball and take the pressure of Rose. Not sure Rip is the guy to create his own shot anymore, but he's the best option available. And he can shoot a mean free throw.
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 11:55:33 AM
If we don't get Howard, we aren't going to suck.
Never said they would.
Sorry, I must have skipped all of your "the bulls will be good" points when you were dousing us all with the cold water of reality.
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 11:55:33 AM
If we don't get Howard, we aren't going to suck.
Never said they would.
Sorry, I must have skipped all of your "the bulls will be good" points when you were dousing us all with the cold water of reality.
I still think they'll be very good. Wouldn't surprise me if they again were the top seed in the East because -- as you said -- their depth will be a big advantage in the shortened season. I just don't think they're very likely to get past an improved Miami team in a playoff series. If the goal is a championship, there are reasons to have concern. If the goal is to win a lot of games and a playoff series or two, cool. They'll do that.
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 12, 2011, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Tell us more, lover of all things NBA.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 12, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
Yeah. it sucks being the person who throws the cold water of reality on everyone.
So that's how Chuck sees himself. The Waterboarder of Reality.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 12, 2011, 01:32:09 PM
So that's how Chuck sees himself. The Waterboarder of Reality.
Reality *is* waterboarding.
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 12, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
Yeah. it sucks being the person who throws the cold water of reality on everyone.
It's true. I'm already exhausted. No idea how you do it.
We led the league in wins last year with a new coach, a 2nd year player who greatly elevated his game and our starting center (Noah) and Boozer being hurt most of the year. In a shortened season, I think the Bulls depth will only help them. Calm down Fro. If we don't get Howard, we aren't going to suck.
We get it, you're Brian Scalabrine.
Quote from: Slaky on December 12, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 12, 2011, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Tell us more, lover of all things NBA.
Mercury's retrograde ends today.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 13, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 12, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 12, 2011, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Tell us more, lover of all things NBA.
Mercury's retrograde ends today.
I didn't know you were a fan of the WNBA.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 13, 2011, 09:53:25 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 13, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 12, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 12, 2011, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Tell us more, lover of all things NBA.
Mercury's retrograde ends today.
I didn't know you were a fan of the WNBA.
Pex got Next.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 13, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 12, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 12, 2011, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Tell us more, lover of all things NBA.
Mercury's retrograde ends today.
I don't give a shit about Yugoslavian basketball.
So if Jordan gets $10 million a year and kwame brown is worth $7 million, Asik should be worth 8-9 million?
Good to see the new CBA preventing the owners from overpaying.
Quote from: Slaky on December 13, 2011, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 13, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 12, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 12, 2011, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Tell us more, lover of all things NBA.
Mercury's retrograde ends today.
I don't give a shit about Yugoslavian basketball.
It's the floor-slappinest brand of hoopin' there is. I LOOOOOOOOVE it. heart heart heart
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He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Tell us more, lover of all things NBA.
Mercury's retrograde ends today.
I don't give a shit about Yugoslavian basketball.
It's the floor-slappinest brand of hoopin' there is. I LOOOOOOOOVE it. heart heart heart
Intrepid Reader Don Imus: "Are you sure it isn't the nappiest?"
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Quote from: Eli on December 12, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on December 12, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
He aggressively went after lebron and wade last year. They are going after Howard this year.
They've "gone after" a lot of superstar-type guys. They've landed zero, unless you want to count Ben Wallace or Carlos Boozer as superstars. The Bulls are awfully fortunate that 1.7% chance of getting Derrick Rose panned out. If it weren't for that, they'd still be stuck in 40-win NBA hell with a bunch of complementary players.
With a few rare exceptions, superstars win in the NBA. The Bulls were great last year, but they won 62 games in large part because their depth helped them slog through mundane winter nights against less-interested teams, and because Thibs is insane and went balls-out for 82 straight games. But in the playoffs, with Rose being the only real scoring threat and Miami now being able throw LeBron, Wade and Battier at him at max effort, things will probably end up the same as last year. The NBA isn't like baseball where you just need to get into the playoffs and then hope to get lucky; the more dominant, physically talented team typically wins, unless there's some weird matchup disadvantage (like Dallas-Golden State in 2007).
Now, if the Bulls somehow get Howard, I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about all of this and call them title favorites.
In conclusion, I don't like this discussion, because it makes me feel like Chuck.
All of this is exactly right.
Tell us more, lover of all things NBA.
Mercury's retrograde ends today.
I don't give a shit about Yugoslavian basketball.
It's the floor-slappinest brand of hoopin' there is. I LOOOOOOOOVE it. heart heart heart
Intrepid Reader Don Imus: "Are you sure it isn't the nappiest?"
Timely.
It's official. Bye-bye Keith BogansBogus and Jannero Pargo.
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=7360935
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It's official. Bye-bye Keith BogansBogus and Jannero Pargo.
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=7360935
Bogans is an awful scorer, but he gives a lot of effort on defense.. I wouldn't be surprised, if he passed through waivers, if the bulls try sign him for less money.
Only a preseason game, but it's hard not to get excited about this teamr. Rip and Drose look like they've played together for years.
Quote from: BH on December 21, 2011, 08:26:40 AM
Only a preseason game, but it's hard not to get excited about this teamr. Rip and Drose look like they've played together for years.
According to noted watcher of sports Robin Baumgarten of the WGN Morning News, they looked like Jordan and Pippen out there!
The Clippers beat the Lakers by 25. I found it very difficult not to get excited about that. I had to take pills.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 22, 2011, 12:30:39 PM
The Clippers beat the Lakers by 25. I found it very difficult not to get excited about that. I had to take pills.
Cialis or Viagra?
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The Clippers beat the Lakers by 25. I found it very difficult not to get excited about that. I had to take pills.
Cialis or Viagra?
I like to utilize a cocktail of both. (||)
I don't want to be that guy that overreacts to a few good performances, but it would appear that John Lucas might at least be worthy of something other than just backing up CJ Watson, no?
The Bulls are good.
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2012, 08:17:54 AM
I don't want to be that guy that overreacts to a few good performances, but it would appear that John Lucas might at least be worthy of something other than just backing up CJ Watson, no?
The Bulls are good.
If there's a team out there looking for a guy to score 20 points a game on 31 shots, he'd be a great fit. The Wizards might want him.
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Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2012, 08:17:54 AM
I don't want to be that guy that overreacts to a few good performances, but it would appear that John Lucas might at least be worthy of something other than just backing up CJ Watson, no?
The Bulls are good.
If there's a team out there looking for a guy to score 20 points a game on 31 shots, he'd be a great fit. The Wizards might want him.
*Hangs head in shame. Never returns to discuss hoopeyball again*
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Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2012, 08:17:54 AM
I don't want to be that guy that overreacts to a few good performances, but it would appear that John Lucas might at least be worthy of something other than just backing up CJ Watson, no?
The Bulls are good.
If there's a team out there looking for a guy to score 20 points a game on 31 shots, he'd be a great fit. The Wizards might want him.
Seriously. He wouldn't stop shooting. And he just looks weird out there. He's always got his arms flying around and he runs weird. But the Wizards are just awful. What a terrible team for John Wall to be wasting his talent on.
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Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2012, 08:17:54 AM
I don't want to be that guy that overreacts to a few good performances, but it would appear that John Lucas might at least be worthy of something other than just backing up CJ Watson, no?
The Bulls are good.
If there's a team out there looking for a guy to score 20 points a game on 31 shots, he'd be a great fit. The Wizards might want him.
Seriously. He wouldn't stop shooting. And he just looks weird out there. He's always got his arms flying around and he runs weird. But the Wizards are just awful. What a terrible team for John Wall to be wasting his talent on.
Like all short people who play pro sports, he looks either incredibly fast or totally out of control.
He's got a serious case of the Sproles.
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Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2012, 08:17:54 AM
I don't want to be that guy that overreacts to a few good performances, but it would appear that John Lucas might at least be worthy of something other than just backing up CJ Watson, no?
The Bulls are good.
If there's a team out there looking for a guy to score 20 points a game on 31 shots, he'd be a great fit. The Wizards might want him.
Seriously. He wouldn't stop shooting. And he just looks weird out there. He's always got his arms flying around and he runs weird. But the Wizards are just awful. What a terrible team for John Wall to be wasting his talent on.
Oh, there there. Fret not. There will come a time when he'll move on and waste his talent on some other team.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/01/29/calling-all-idiotic-bulls-fans-how-confident-are-you-now/
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http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/01/29/calling-all-idiotic-bulls-fans-how-confident-are-you-now/
"This team is full of problems. Luol Deng is going to be an idiot and not have the surgery. Not doing this is going to worsen his condition and be a problem in the playoffs. If he gets the surgery, he will get to rest his legs and have his wrist fully healed by the start of the playoffs. Richard Hamilton is also stupid with his decision of playing despite realizing that he will better if he sits out longer with a groin injury. Joakim Noah isn't as good as people think. Omer Asik is fucking terrible. By far, the worst hands in the NBA. When he actually holds onto the ball, he continues to do this pump fake instead of just dunking the ball which results in him getting fouled and promptly missing two free throws. Fuck him.
Also, can someone tell Carlos Boozer to stop yelling at his teammates on the court? If you turn up the sound, you will hear him yelling at his teammates "Gimme Dat" while going for a rebound or "Dunk that shit" on the other side of the court. Carlos Boozer is a fucking idiot and an annoying prick on the court. How is that not a distraction to his teammates on the court? To top it all off, he is horrible at playing defense.
Who thinks the Bulls have a chance with these assholes on the team? Not me."
Quote from: BH on January 30, 2012, 08:04:36 AM
Also, can someone tell Carlos Boozer to stop yelling at his teammates on the court? If you turn up the sound, you will hear him yelling at his teammates "Gimme Dat" while going for a rebound or "Dunk that shit" on the other side of the court. Carlos Boozer is a fucking idiot and an annoying prick on the court. How is that not a distraction to his teammates on the court? To top it all off, he is horrible at playing defense.
Only in FroWorld is poor defensive play secondary to being verbose in the game of basketball.
I think my favorite part was this:
QuoteFirst problem I have are the amount of dunks the Heat had. The worse one was when that piece of shit LeBron James literally jumped over John Lucas for a slam. What the fuck was that?
JESUS CHRIST JOHN LUCAS, HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU NOT STOP LEBRON JAMES?!?
I know this game was close and the Bulls didn't play with Deng, and that the Bulls beat the Heat during the regular season last year.
But I don't really think this team is good enough to win a series vs the Heat. Hustling and playing good defense during the regular season will win a lot of games, but all teams hustle during the playoffs. Derrick Rose still needs help, especially if him, Deng and Rip are going to play through injuries in the playoffs. Unless Wade or Lebron gets hurt. Maybe that should be Paxon's strategy, take out Lebron or Wade.
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I know this game was close and the Bulls didn't play with Deng, and that the Bulls beat the Heat during the regular season last year.
But I don't really think this team is good enough to win a series vs the Heat. Hustling and playing good defense during the regular season will win a lot of games, but all teams hustle during the playoffs. Derrick Rose still needs help, especially if him, Deng and Rip are going to play through injuries in the playoffs. Unless Wade or Lebron gets hurt. Maybe that should be Paxon's strategy, take out Lebron or Wade.
THI
I figured on Sunday, I was going to sit and watch the Bulls run over another team. Too bad the Boston Celtics are not the Charlotte Bobcats. If you check the wins and losses of this year, you will see that the Bulls are merely a .500 team when they actually play teams that are competitive. The Bulls lost by four but it wasn't even that close. Just like the game against the Heat two weeks ago, it was a Sunday afternoon and National Television and the Bulls never saw the lead. The Bulls couldn't even tie the game after it was 4-4 early on. If people think that this team is any good at all needs their head checked. They once again, lost this game because of stupid turnovers and missed free throws (seven to be exact). Other teams can miss a bunch and find a way to win like the Celtics did. The Bulls also couldn't make a shot to save their life. They were down 14 in the final minutes and somehow came back to get within three. What happens next? C.J. Fucking Watson throws up a wild three-point shot with plenty of time left on the clock and misses horribly. That guy is fucking horrible and I don't care what anybody else says. He throws up dumb shots and has a low basketball I.Q. I wish someone would hit him square in the face with a basketball. He has no business being in the NBA.
Then there's Carlos Boozer. The Bulls are better off on defense with just four guys rather than Boozer joining them. He plays zero defense. He stands three feet away from whoever he is guarding then when someone is actually close to him, he doesn't even bother to stick one of his hands up in attempt to play defense. Next up is Kyle Korver. This fucking idiot can have one outstanding game where he hits everything in site. Then for the next five games, he'll make one out of every ten shots.
For the second year in a row, I will say this: The Bulls aren't going to contend for an NBA Championship. They have too many flaws and they are now hurt in the process. Unless a miracle is out there where they all of a sudden learn how to make free throws and not be so shitty overall, they will continue to be the Orlando Magic
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 13, 2012, 05:22:18 AM
For the second year in a row, I will say this: The Bulls aren't going to contend for an NBA Championship. They have too many flaws and they are now hurt in the process. Unless a miracle is out there where they all of a sudden learn how to make free throws and not be so shitty overall, they will continue to be the Orlando Magic
On the plus side, the Bulls' free-throw defense is 4th-best in the NBA at 71.7 percent.
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Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 13, 2012, 05:22:18 AM
For the second year in a row, I will say this: The Bulls aren't going to contend for an NBA Championship. They have too many flaws and they are now hurt in the process. Unless a miracle is out there where they all of a sudden learn how to make free throws and not be so shitty overall, they will continue to be the Orlando Magic
On the plus side, the Bulls' free-throw defense is 4th-best in the NBA at 71.7 percent.
FOURTH ISN'T FIRST, IS IT???!!!???!!!
I can't believe they lost on the road by a few points without their best player. Worst team ever.
Quote from: Slaky on February 13, 2012, 03:30:13 PM
I can't believe they lost on the road by a few points without their best player. Worst team ever.
Richard Hamilton (87.5% FT) needs to get healthy soon.
Trade deadline is march 15th. I'm assuming the Bulls won't make any changes, garpax seem to overvalue any guy they've ever drafted.
Season is over after that awful win last night against the Celtics.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 17, 2012, 09:19:45 AM
Season is over after that awful win last night against the Celtics.
They'll never win a title if they can't beat the Celtics at home without their best player and a starting shooting guard by more than nine points. Pathetic.
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Season is over after that awful win last night against the Celtics.
They'll never win a title if they can't beat the Celtics at home without their best player and a starting shooting guard by more than nine points. Pathetic.
I think D. Rose could sit out all but the last few weeks of the regular season and the Bulls would hold off Indiana and grab a top-3 seed. I say this because I want to be nice to you guys because you're always nice to me even though I'm a terrible person.
Looks like Rip still has some run. But... Carlos Boozer. What a fucking load. (||)
The Middle Murton was pissed they couldn't even Free Throw Shoot their way to free Big Macs.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 29, 2012, 08:44:55 AM
The Middle Murton was pissed they couldn't even Free Throw Shoot their way to free Big Macs.
Rose missed those free throws on purpose and it made me happy.
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The Middle Murton was pissed they couldn't even Free Throw Shoot their way to free Big Macs.
Rose missed those free throws on purpose and it made me happy.
It looked like it to me too. Why did he do it? Is he getting annoyed at the MVP chants?
The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 29, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
Remember when Derrick Rose was awesome but turned the ball over a lot? So I guess he doesn't turn the ball over much anymore.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 29, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
It would probably be a sweet series as long as the Spurs never had to play a road game.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on February 29, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
It would probably be a sweet series as long as the Spurs never had to play a road game.
Because...?
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Quote from: Internet Apex on February 29, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
It would probably be a sweet series as long as the Spurs never had to play a road game.
Because...?
Because the Spurs are a vastly superior home team?
I'm really excited to keep arguing about the Spurs for another few months.
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The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
It would probably be a sweet series as long as the Spurs never had to play a road game.
Because...?
Because the Spurs are a vastly superior home team?
I'm really excited to keep arguing about the Spurs for another few months.
I'll say this and not utter another word about them on the internets for a while. They just finished their annual "rodeo trip" with a 7-1 record and the one loss came at Portland when Pop sat Parker and Duncan. Watching them play last night, I was struck by how seldom they go to Duncan these days. Perhaps that was as much a result of the Bulls' defense and Pop's choke hold on his minutes as it is his declining skill, but they'll need more than that from him if they're going to go as far as I thought while watching them earlier. Gary Neal is another great find but they need another scorer in a bad way. Manu is that but he's brittle.
The Bulls are really fucking good.
Now fuck off.
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Quote from: PenPho on March 01, 2012, 10:30:18 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 29, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
It would probably be a sweet series as long as the Spurs never had to play a road game.
Because...?
I think he's saying because the Spurs are 13-2 at home and 11-9 on the road.
Doesn't really mean much, since almost every NBA team has a much better record at home than on the road. The Bulls are 14-2 vs. 15-6; Heat are 15-2 vs. 12-5; Lakers are 15-2 vs
6-12; OKC is 15-1 vs. 13-6; Dallas is 13-7 vs. 8-8; Philly is also 13-7 vs. 8-8. And so on.
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The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
It would probably be a sweet series as long as the Spurs never had to play a road game.
Because...?
I think he's saying because the Spurs are 13-2 at home and 11-9 on the road.
Doesn't really mean much, since almost every NBA team has a much better record at home than on the road. The Bulls are 14-2 vs. 15-6; Heat are 15-2 vs. 12-5; Lakers are 15-2 vs 6-12; OKC is 15-1 vs. 13-6; Dallas is 13-7 vs. 8-8; Philly is also 13-7 vs. 8-8. And so on.
Pen's really shining in this thread.
Why does Omer always bring the ball down to waist level after getting an offensive board or catching a pass down low? You'd think Thibs would've beat it out of him by now.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 01, 2012, 11:51:52 AM
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Quote from: Internet Apex on February 29, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
It would probably be a sweet series as long as the Spurs never had to play a road game.
Because...?
They're average on the road.
Why even play out the season? It's already over.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/03/05/yawn/
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
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Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
Rip was a good signing. I'd probably have preferred a deal for Tracy McGrady or Yao Ming - I'm sure Greg Oden could be had. Maybe even for Boozer straight up. But you do what you can.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on February 29, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
The Bulls are fucking real. Rose destroyed Parker tonight and that's something, no doubt. I would love to see a 7-game series between these two teams with a healthy Manu. But this is probably all we'll get. And it was gooooood.... (||)
It would probably be a sweet series as long as the Spurs never had to play a road game.
Because...?
Because the Spurs are a vastly superior home team?
I'm really excited to keep arguing about the Spurs for another few months.
I'll say this and not utter another word about them on the internets for a while. They just finished their annual "rodeo trip" with a 7-1 record and the one loss came at Portland when Pop sat Parker and Duncan. Watching them play last night, I was struck by how seldom they go to Duncan these days. Perhaps that was as much a result of the Bulls' defense and Pop's choke hold on his minutes as it is his declining skill, but they'll need more than that from him if they're going to go as far as I thought while watching them earlier. Gary Neal is another great find but they need another scorer in a bad way. Manu is that but he's brittle.
The Bulls are really fucking good.
Now fuck off.
1-2 since the rodeo trip ended, dude.
And the one win was over Charlotte, who is by far the worst team in the NBA.
WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW?
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Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
Rip was a good signing. I'd probably have preferred a deal for Tracy McGrady or Yao Ming - I'm sure Greg Oden could be had. Maybe even for Boozer straight up. But you do what you can.
This is why you should have stopped posting when you said you were going to stop posting
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
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Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
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Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
Rip was a good signing. I'd probably have preferred a deal for Tracy McGrady or Yao Ming - I'm sure Greg Oden could be had. Maybe even for Boozer straight up. But you do what you can.
This is why you should have stopped posting when you said you were going to stop posting
Because I annoy you? That's a dumb reason to stop doing anything. I don't care how you feel.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
If you're talking Montae Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard, absolutely. The Bulls signed him to that deal in hopes that he'd develop his offensive game and defend better. He's a great rebounder and an excellent passer but holy shit. $12M per year?
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
If you're talking Montae Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard, absolutely. The Bulls signed him to that deal in hopes that he'd develop his offensive game and defend better. He's a great rebounder and an excellent passer but holy shit. $12M per year?
His contract isn't nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
If you're talking Montae Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard, absolutely. The Bulls signed him to that deal in hopes that he'd develop his offensive game and defend better. He's a great rebounder and an excellent passer but holy shit. $12M per year?
His contract isn't nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.
If not then they should have no problem moving him.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
If you're talking Montae Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard, absolutely. The Bulls signed him to that deal in hopes that he'd develop his offensive game and defend better. He's a great rebounder and an excellent passer but holy shit. $12M per year?
His contract isn't nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.
If not then they should have no problem moving him.
Maybe they're not trying to move him.
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
If you're talking Montae Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard, absolutely. The Bulls signed him to that deal in hopes that he'd develop his offensive game and defend better. He's a great rebounder and an excellent passer but holy shit. $12M per year?
His contract isn't nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.
If not then they should have no problem moving him.
Maybe they're not trying to move him.
Maybe Apex thinks that they should be.
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
If you're talking Montae Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard, absolutely. The Bulls signed him to that deal in hopes that he'd develop his offensive game and defend better. He's a great rebounder and an excellent passer but holy shit. $12M per year?
His contract isn't nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.
If not then they should have no problem moving him.
Maybe they're not trying to move him.
Maybe Apex thinks that they should be.
Sure if the Warriors or Celtics or the Magic come a' calling and offer up say, Monta Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard. They should think about it.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
If you're talking Montae Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard, absolutely. The Bulls signed him to that deal in hopes that he'd develop his offensive game and defend better. He's a great rebounder and an excellent passer but holy shit. $12M per year?
His contract isn't nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.
If not then they should have no problem moving him.
Maybe they're not trying to move him.
Maybe Apex thinks that they should be.
Sure if the Warriors or Celtics or the Magic come a' calling and offer up say, Monta Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard. They should think about it.
But you're saying that they wouldn't, because of Noah's bad contract.
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 06, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 06, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 08:06:34 AM
The good news is that Rip got hurt again before the trade deadline. Maybe this will force paxson to make a necessary move.
But now when Rip comes back it will be like they made a trade for a starting shooting guard. AFTER the deadline!/KC Johnson
He'll be awesome for 20-30 minutes before he goes back on the bench with an injury. Ray Allen has that experience Apex desires.
Monta Ellis would be awesome, I'd have no problem trading Noah for a younger good SG. Dwight Howard is good.
Nobody wants Noah back in a trade at the price.
Is this really true? Is he really untradeable at 4/$48 (that's what is left after this season) at 27 years old?
If you're talking Montae Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard, absolutely. The Bulls signed him to that deal in hopes that he'd develop his offensive game and defend better. He's a great rebounder and an excellent passer but holy shit. $12M per year?
His contract isn't nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.
If not then they should have no problem moving him.
Maybe they're not trying to move him.
Maybe Apex thinks that they should be.
Sure if the Warriors or Celtics or the Magic come a' calling and offer up say, Monta Ellis or Ray Allen or even Dwight Howard. They should think about it.
But you're saying that they wouldn't, because of Noah's bad contract.
His contract isn't as bad as I seem to think it is.
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
What does it matter? Apex just wants to talk about Monta Ellis b/c that is a real gangsta name.
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
This way, when LeBron comes back to Cleveland, he can dish it to Monta for the last shot.
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
That's not the point. The point is that I just trolled this board by saying that Anderson Varejao is more valuable than Joakim Noah.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
That's not the point. The point is that I just trolled this board by saying that Anderson Varejao is more valuable than Joakim Noah.
I hope that they have really good beer at that bar you guys are going to get together at to watch the NBA.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
That's not the point. The point is that I just trolled this board by saying that Anderson Varejao is more valuable than Joakim Noah.
But are you better for having trolled?
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 12:55:26 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
This way, when LeBron comes back to Cleveland, he can dish it to Monta for the last shot.
Zing.
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
That's not the point. The point is that I just trolled this board by saying that Anderson Varejao is more valuable than Joakim Noah.
I hope that they have really good beer at that bar you guys are going to get together at to watch the NBA.
In real life, Apex is a giant pussy.
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 01:25:25 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
That's not the point. The point is that I just trolled this board by saying that Anderson Varejao is more valuable than Joakim Noah.
I hope that they have really good beer at that bar you guys are going to get together at to watch the NBA.
In real life, Apex is a giant pussy.
Not really giant.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 01:26:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 01:25:25 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
That's not the point. The point is that I just trolled this board by saying that Anderson Varejao is more valuable than Joakim Noah.
I hope that they have really good beer at that bar you guys are going to get together at to watch the NBA.
In real life, Apex is a giant pussy.
Not really giant.
Gaping?
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 01:29:01 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 01:26:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 01:25:25 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 06, 2012, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 06, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
What does Cleveland pay Anderson Varejao? About $8.3M for two years after this. If I'm about unload Monta Ellis, I think I'd probably check there first.
But what good does that switch do for either side? Both teams are garbage.
That's not the point. The point is that I just trolled this board by saying that Anderson Varejao is more valuable than Joakim Noah.
I hope that they have really good beer at that bar you guys are going to get together at to watch the NBA.
In real life, Apex is a giant pussy.
Not really giant.
Gaping?
On a good night.
So garpax can't trade Noah (who's young and fairly cheap) because Anderson Varejao makes less? That really is going to hurt the team.
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 01:37:19 PM
So garpax can't trade Noah (who's young and fairly cheap) because Anderson Varejao makes less? That really is going to hurt the team.
I didn't really think the Cavs were trying to trade Varejao.
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
With ArVee here - the GarPax Pitchfork and Torch Club is for dumbass mouthbreathers who were all about HanieMania, people that bought Ryan Theriot shirseys and thought the Sox won the World Series because of grinder ball, which isn't really a thing.
There is no trade that makes Rose 6'9" nor is there a trade that gives the Miami Heat smallpox. So yeah - I hope they can find someone to help them at least get closer to Miami but it's going to take a crazy bounce or two, Rose going absolutely nuclear and of course Tim Donaghy on the take.
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
Excellent.
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
I think GarPax definitely do as well. They aren't going to go into the luxury tax to keep asik and taj, why they won't trade one of those guys for anyone is beyond me, since one of them will leave the Bulls when their contracts are done. Some dumb team will pay Asik more than $10 million a year. GarPax lucked out and got the #1 pick and Derrick Rose. And almost screwed that up by drafting Beasley. As far as GMs go, GarPax seem middle of the road. They have to be some of the most conservative executives in the NBA. Nothing exciting. Bulls seem like a team destined to always be one great player away from being a team that can get passed the current Heat team. I love Thibs, but question why they didn't lock him up long-term last offseason.
Rip has a bruise and a slight strain. So he'll be day to day. So no move from the Bulls I'd guess. They'll bank on Rip staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
I think GarPax definitely do as well. They aren't going to go into the luxury tax to keep asik and taj, why they won't trade one of those guys for anyone is beyond me, since one of them will leave the Bulls when their contracts are done. Some dumb team will pay Asik more than $10 million a year. GarPax lucked out and got the #1 pick and Derrick Rose. And almost screwed that up by drafting Beasley. As far as GMs go, GarPax seem middle of the road. They have to be some of the most conservative executives in the NBA. Nothing exciting. Bulls seem like a team destined to always be one great player away from being a team that can get passed the current Heat team. I love Thibs, but question why they didn't lock him up long-term last offseason.
Rip has a bruise and a slight strain. So he'll be day to day. So no move from the Bulls I'd guess. They'll bank on Rip staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
(momentarily removes GarPax's hog from mouth)
How is not wanting to pay the luxury tax GarPax's fault?
What makes you say that they "almost" drafted Beasley? I've honestly never heard that.
And based on the Skiles experience of players getting burned out on a hardass coach, what was the rush in extending Thibs (||)? Did Carol write that he was threatening to leave on the same blog that she broke the almost Beasley story?
(re-inserts GarPax wang into mouth)
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
I think GarPax definitely do as well. They aren't going to go into the luxury tax to keep asik and taj, why they won't trade one of those guys for anyone is beyond me, since one of them will leave the Bulls when their contracts are done. Some dumb team will pay Asik more than $10 million a year. GarPax lucked out and got the #1 pick and Derrick Rose. And almost screwed that up by drafting Beasley. As far as GMs go, GarPax seem middle of the road. They have to be some of the most conservative executives in the NBA. Nothing exciting. Bulls seem like a team destined to always be one great player away from being a team that can get passed the current Heat team. I love Thibs, but question why they didn't lock him up long-term last offseason.
Rip has a bruise and a slight strain. So he'll be day to day. So no move from the Bulls I'd guess. They'll bank on Rip staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
(momentarily removes GarPax's hog from mouth)
How is not wanting to pay the luxury tax GarPax's fault?
What makes you say that they "almost" drafted Beasley? I've honestly never heard that.
And based on the Skiles experience of players getting burned out on a hardass coach, what was the rush in extending Thibs (||)? Did Carol write that he was threatening to leave on the same blog that she broke the almost Beasley story?
(re-inserts GarPax wang into mouth)
I agree with both of you and think the BH/Slezak romance meme is one of the greatest this community has ever had the pleasure of witnessing.
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
I think GarPax definitely do as well. They aren't going to go into the luxury tax to keep asik and taj, why they won't trade one of those guys for anyone is beyond me, since one of them will leave the Bulls when their contracts are done. Some dumb team will pay Asik more than $10 million a year. GarPax lucked out and got the #1 pick and Derrick Rose. And almost screwed that up by drafting Beasley. As far as GMs go, GarPax seem middle of the road. They have to be some of the most conservative executives in the NBA. Nothing exciting. Bulls seem like a team destined to always be one great player away from being a team that can get passed the current Heat team. I love Thibs, but question why they didn't lock him up long-term last offseason.
Rip has a bruise and a slight strain. So he'll be day to day. So no move from the Bulls I'd guess. They'll bank on Rip staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
(momentarily removes GarPax's hog from mouth)
How is not wanting to pay the luxury tax GarPax's fault?
What makes you say that they "almost" drafted Beasley? I've honestly never heard that.
And based on the Skiles experience of players getting burned out on a hardass coach, what was the rush in extending Thibs (||)? Did Carol write that he was threatening to leave on the same blog that she broke the almost Beasley story?
(re-inserts GarPax wang into mouth)
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
What moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth? Signing Ben Wallace? Losing ben gordon for nothing?
Any team with Rose on it would be a good team. I still don't think (even with Rip healthy, and that is probably unlikely during a full playoff run) they are good enough to beat the Heat. I hope I'm wrong, or that Bosh or Wade or Lebron get in a car accident.
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You're acting like Ellis can just be had by sending Taj and Asik to Golden State and the Bulls' front office is stubbornly refusing to do it.
QuoteYou don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
Again, why would you hold it against someone that they *possibly considered* drafting a guy who was pretty widely considered the best player in college basketball, but then didn't do it? I guess that there was no reason to not say they were drafting Rose, but there was no reason to say they were taking him either, other than to apparently help you sleep better at night.
QuoteWhat moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth?
- I thought they did a great job before the summer of 2010 in clearing cap space and preparing to make a run at LeBron. It's not their fault that three of the best players on Earth got together and decided they wanted to play together in Miami and win championships.
- I like the Deng extension, which a lot of people were pissed about at the time.
- Despite what Apex says, I think the Noah contract is a pretty good one. It's hard to find decent centers and locking up an athletic, skilled one in his prime rather than leaving the position to twist in the wind is smart.
- Gibson was a good value find late in the draft.
- Korver and Brewer are good role players signed to good contracts.
- CJ Watson was a really nice signing, considering he could start for about half the teams in the NBA.
- The Mirotic pick from last year's draft was outstanding and pretty much universally praised.
QuoteAny team with Rose on it would be a good team.
Not really. If you swapped Rose with John Wall or Corey Maggette, the Wizards and Bobcats still wouldn't be playoff teams. One player isn't enough to do anything. Kevin Love had an amazing year last year (arguably better than Rose's) and Minnesota won 17 games. I think GarPax has done a pretty decent job surrounding Rose with a deep and balanced team.
Quote from: Eli on March 07, 2012, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You're acting like Ellis can just be had by sending Taj and Asik to Golden State and the Bulls' front office is stubbornly refusing to do it.
QuoteYou don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
Again, why would you hold it against someone that they *possibly considered* drafting a guy who was pretty widely considered the best player in college basketball, but then didn't do it? I guess that there was no reason to not say they were drafting Rose, but there was no reason to say they were taking him either, other than to apparently help you sleep better at night.
QuoteWhat moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth?
- I thought they did a great job before the summer of 2010 in clearing cap space and preparing to make a run at LeBron. It's not their fault that three of the best players on Earth got together and decided they wanted to play together in Miami and win championships.
- I like the Deng extension, which a lot of people were pissed about at the time.
- Despite what Apex says, I think the Noah contract is a pretty good one. It's hard to find decent centers and locking up an athletic, skilled one in his prime rather than leaving the position to twist in the wind is smart.
- Gibson was a good value find late in the draft.
- Korver and Brewer are good role players signed to good contracts.
- CJ Watson was a really nice signing, considering he could start for about half the teams in the NBA.
- The Mirotic pick from last year's draft was outstanding and pretty much universally praised.
QuoteAny team with Rose on it would be a good team.
Not really. If you swapped Rose with John Wall or Corey Maggette, the Wizards and Bobcats still wouldn't be playoff teams. One player isn't enough to do anything. Kevin Love had an amazing year last year (arguably better than Rose's) and Minnesota won 17 games. I think GarPax has done a pretty decent job surrounding Rose with a deep and balanced team.
So you think this Bulls team will win a championship as currently constructed? That's fine if you do, I just don't think they will.
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 08:53:07 AM
So you think this Bulls team will win a championship as currently constructed?
No, they probably won't. But that's attributable more to LeBron, Wade and Bosh than any major failures from the Bulls.
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
I think GarPax definitely do as well. They aren't going to go into the luxury tax to keep asik and taj, why they won't trade one of those guys for anyone is beyond me, since one of them will leave the Bulls when their contracts are done. Some dumb team will pay Asik more than $10 million a year. GarPax lucked out and got the #1 pick and Derrick Rose. And almost screwed that up by drafting Beasley. As far as GMs go, GarPax seem middle of the road. They have to be some of the most conservative executives in the NBA. Nothing exciting. Bulls seem like a team destined to always be one great player away from being a team that can get passed the current Heat team. I love Thibs, but question why they didn't lock him up long-term last offseason.
Rip has a bruise and a slight strain. So he'll be day to day. So no move from the Bulls I'd guess. They'll bank on Rip staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
(momentarily removes GarPax's hog from mouth)
How is not wanting to pay the luxury tax GarPax's fault?
What makes you say that they "almost" drafted Beasley? I've honestly never heard that.
And based on the Skiles experience of players getting burned out on a hardass coach, what was the rush in extending Thibs (||)? Did Carol write that he was threatening to leave on the same blog that she broke the almost Beasley story?
(re-inserts GarPax wang into mouth)
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
What moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth? Signing Ben Wallace? Losing ben gordon for nothing?
Any team with Rose on it would be a good team. I still don't think (even with Rip healthy, and that is probably unlikely during a full playoff run) they are good enough to beat the Heat. I hope I'm wrong, or that Bosh or Wade or Lebron get in a car accident.
You can see BH at war with himself here. Is he a Bull, or are the Bulls a they? Is he them? Are we all them? Are they all we?
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2012, 09:45:35 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
I think GarPax definitely do as well. They aren't going to go into the luxury tax to keep asik and taj, why they won't trade one of those guys for anyone is beyond me, since one of them will leave the Bulls when their contracts are done. Some dumb team will pay Asik more than $10 million a year. GarPax lucked out and got the #1 pick and Derrick Rose. And almost screwed that up by drafting Beasley. As far as GMs go, GarPax seem middle of the road. They have to be some of the most conservative executives in the NBA. Nothing exciting. Bulls seem like a team destined to always be one great player away from being a team that can get passed the current Heat team. I love Thibs, but question why they didn't lock him up long-term last offseason.
Rip has a bruise and a slight strain. So he'll be day to day. So no move from the Bulls I'd guess. They'll bank on Rip staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
(momentarily removes GarPax's hog from mouth)
How is not wanting to pay the luxury tax GarPax's fault?
What makes you say that they "almost" drafted Beasley? I've honestly never heard that.
And based on the Skiles experience of players getting burned out on a hardass coach, what was the rush in extending Thibs (||)? Did Carol write that he was threatening to leave on the same blog that she broke the almost Beasley story?
(re-inserts GarPax wang into mouth)
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
What moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth? Signing Ben Wallace? Losing ben gordon for nothing?
Any team with Rose on it would be a good team. I still don't think (even with Rip healthy, and that is probably unlikely during a full playoff run) they are good enough to beat the Heat. I hope I'm wrong, or that Bosh or Wade or Lebron get in a car accident.
You can see BH at war with himself here. Is he a Bull, or are the Bulls a they? Is he them? Are we all them? Are they all we?
I think getting served by Eli has him all out of sorts. He'll be right as rain after Carol welcomes him home from a long day at the stupid store with his slippers and a hot toddy.
Quote from: R-V on March 07, 2012, 09:49:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2012, 09:45:35 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
I think GarPax definitely do as well. They aren't going to go into the luxury tax to keep asik and taj, why they won't trade one of those guys for anyone is beyond me, since one of them will leave the Bulls when their contracts are done. Some dumb team will pay Asik more than $10 million a year. GarPax lucked out and got the #1 pick and Derrick Rose. And almost screwed that up by drafting Beasley. As far as GMs go, GarPax seem middle of the road. They have to be some of the most conservative executives in the NBA. Nothing exciting. Bulls seem like a team destined to always be one great player away from being a team that can get passed the current Heat team. I love Thibs, but question why they didn't lock him up long-term last offseason.
Rip has a bruise and a slight strain. So he'll be day to day. So no move from the Bulls I'd guess. They'll bank on Rip staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
(momentarily removes GarPax's hog from mouth)
How is not wanting to pay the luxury tax GarPax's fault?
What makes you say that they "almost" drafted Beasley? I've honestly never heard that.
And based on the Skiles experience of players getting burned out on a hardass coach, what was the rush in extending Thibs (||)? Did Carol write that he was threatening to leave on the same blog that she broke the almost Beasley story?
(re-inserts GarPax wang into mouth)
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
What moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth? Signing Ben Wallace? Losing ben gordon for nothing?
Any team with Rose on it would be a good team. I still don't think (even with Rip healthy, and that is probably unlikely during a full playoff run) they are good enough to beat the Heat. I hope I'm wrong, or that Bosh or Wade or Lebron get in a car accident.
You can see BH at war with himself here. Is he a Bull, or are the Bulls a they? Is he them? Are we all them? Are they all we?
I think getting served by Eli has him all out of sorts. He'll be right as rain after Carol welcomes him home from a long day at the stupid store with his slippers and a hot toddy.
She once caught him beating it to Rotoworld. And it turned her on.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 07, 2012, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 07, 2012, 09:49:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2012, 09:45:35 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: BH on March 06, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 06, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 06, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Putting my poking stick away.
If the Bulls do not improve the roster by the deadline and head into the postseason likely doomed to last year's fate, are you guys ok with GarPax staying or is it pitchfork time? It's been noted here in this thread that aside from drafting Rose over Beasley they've done very little right. Hiring Thibs was a win. But how are you feeling?
I'd like for them to make a move, but short of acquiring Howard, I'm not sure there's much they can do to make them better than the Heat. And I think the Magic would be tards to take any package the Bulls could offer - I think Bulls fans completely overvalue Taj, Omer and Joakim. So at the end of the day I'll end up hoping for Derrick to put up 40+ in the conference finals or for Lebron to be kidnapped, rolled up in a throw rug and thrown off a bridge in Butthurtpuddle, OH. As for GarPax overall, the Thibs hire offset a lot of the other negatives for me. I fucking love Thibodeau.
I think GarPax definitely do as well. They aren't going to go into the luxury tax to keep asik and taj, why they won't trade one of those guys for anyone is beyond me, since one of them will leave the Bulls when their contracts are done. Some dumb team will pay Asik more than $10 million a year. GarPax lucked out and got the #1 pick and Derrick Rose. And almost screwed that up by drafting Beasley. As far as GMs go, GarPax seem middle of the road. They have to be some of the most conservative executives in the NBA. Nothing exciting. Bulls seem like a team destined to always be one great player away from being a team that can get passed the current Heat team. I love Thibs, but question why they didn't lock him up long-term last offseason.
Rip has a bruise and a slight strain. So he'll be day to day. So no move from the Bulls I'd guess. They'll bank on Rip staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
(momentarily removes GarPax's hog from mouth)
How is not wanting to pay the luxury tax GarPax's fault?
What makes you say that they "almost" drafted Beasley? I've honestly never heard that.
And based on the Skiles experience of players getting burned out on a hardass coach, what was the rush in extending Thibs (||)? Did Carol write that he was threatening to leave on the same blog that she broke the almost Beasley story?
(re-inserts GarPax wang into mouth)
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
What moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth? Signing Ben Wallace? Losing ben gordon for nothing?
Any team with Rose on it would be a good team. I still don't think (even with Rip healthy, and that is probably unlikely during a full playoff run) they are good enough to beat the Heat. I hope I'm wrong, or that Bosh or Wade or Lebron get in a car accident.
You can see BH at war with himself here. Is he a Bull, or are the Bulls a they? Is he them? Are we all them? Are they all we?
I think getting served by Eli has him all out of sorts. He'll be right as rain after Carol welcomes him home from a long day at the stupid store with his slippers and a hot toddy.
She once caught him beating it to Rotoworld. And it turned her on.
I wasn't caught. It was all by design.
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 08:53:07 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 07, 2012, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You're acting like Ellis can just be had by sending Taj and Asik to Golden State and the Bulls' front office is stubbornly refusing to do it.
QuoteYou don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
Again, why would you hold it against someone that they *possibly considered* drafting a guy who was pretty widely considered the best player in college basketball, but then didn't do it? I guess that there was no reason to not say they were drafting Rose, but there was no reason to say they were taking him either, other than to apparently help you sleep better at night.
QuoteWhat moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth?
- I thought they did a great job before the summer of 2010 in clearing cap space and preparing to make a run at LeBron. It's not their fault that three of the best players on Earth got together and decided they wanted to play together in Miami and win championships.
- I like the Deng extension, which a lot of people were pissed about at the time.
- Despite what Apex says, I think the Noah contract is a pretty good one. It's hard to find decent centers and locking up an athletic, skilled one in his prime rather than leaving the position to twist in the wind is smart.
- Gibson was a good value find late in the draft.
- Korver and Brewer are good role players signed to good contracts.
- CJ Watson was a really nice signing, considering he could start for about half the teams in the NBA.
- The Mirotic pick from last year's draft was outstanding and pretty much universally praised.
QuoteAny team with Rose on it would be a good team.
Not really. If you swapped Rose with John Wall or Corey Maggette, the Wizards and Bobcats still wouldn't be playoff teams. One player isn't enough to do anything. Kevin Love had an amazing year last year (arguably better than Rose's) and Minnesota won 17 games. I think GarPax has done a pretty decent job surrounding Rose with a deep and balanced team.
So you think this Bulls team will win a championship as currently constructed? That's fine if you do, I just don't think they will.
I think one of the best things they did was build up the Bench Mob. There's a reason why they win more games than pretty much every team in the NBA and it's not b/c of Boozer and Noah. It's the 2nd unit.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 07, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 08:53:07 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 07, 2012, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You're acting like Ellis can just be had by sending Taj and Asik to Golden State and the Bulls' front office is stubbornly refusing to do it.
QuoteYou don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
Again, why would you hold it against someone that they *possibly considered* drafting a guy who was pretty widely considered the best player in college basketball, but then didn't do it? I guess that there was no reason to not say they were drafting Rose, but there was no reason to say they were taking him either, other than to apparently help you sleep better at night.
QuoteWhat moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth?
- I thought they did a great job before the summer of 2010 in clearing cap space and preparing to make a run at LeBron. It's not their fault that three of the best players on Earth got together and decided they wanted to play together in Miami and win championships.
- I like the Deng extension, which a lot of people were pissed about at the time.
- Despite what Apex says, I think the Noah contract is a pretty good one. It's hard to find decent centers and locking up an athletic, skilled one in his prime rather than leaving the position to twist in the wind is smart.
- Gibson was a good value find late in the draft.
- Korver and Brewer are good role players signed to good contracts.
- CJ Watson was a really nice signing, considering he could start for about half the teams in the NBA.
- The Mirotic pick from last year's draft was outstanding and pretty much universally praised.
QuoteAny team with Rose on it would be a good team.
Not really. If you swapped Rose with John Wall or Corey Maggette, the Wizards and Bobcats still wouldn't be playoff teams. One player isn't enough to do anything. Kevin Love had an amazing year last year (arguably better than Rose's) and Minnesota won 17 games. I think GarPax has done a pretty decent job surrounding Rose with a deep and balanced team.
So you think this Bulls team will win a championship as currently constructed? That's fine if you do, I just don't think they will.
I think one of the best things they did was build up the Bench Mob. There's a reason why they win more games than pretty much every team in the NBA and it's not b/c of Boozer and Noah. It's the 2nd unit.
Yay? In the playoffs when everybody shortens their rotation and the depth isn't an advantage anymore you have to get scoring from somewhere and it aint from your frontcourt. What's a girl to do?
Boozer would be an excellent rotation player in the postseason. But alas...
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 07, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 07, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 08:53:07 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 07, 2012, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You're acting like Ellis can just be had by sending Taj and Asik to Golden State and the Bulls' front office is stubbornly refusing to do it.
QuoteYou don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
Again, why would you hold it against someone that they *possibly considered* drafting a guy who was pretty widely considered the best player in college basketball, but then didn't do it? I guess that there was no reason to not say they were drafting Rose, but there was no reason to say they were taking him either, other than to apparently help you sleep better at night.
QuoteWhat moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth?
- I thought they did a great job before the summer of 2010 in clearing cap space and preparing to make a run at LeBron. It's not their fault that three of the best players on Earth got together and decided they wanted to play together in Miami and win championships.
- I like the Deng extension, which a lot of people were pissed about at the time.
- Despite what Apex says, I think the Noah contract is a pretty good one. It's hard to find decent centers and locking up an athletic, skilled one in his prime rather than leaving the position to twist in the wind is smart.
- Gibson was a good value find late in the draft.
- Korver and Brewer are good role players signed to good contracts.
- CJ Watson was a really nice signing, considering he could start for about half the teams in the NBA.
- The Mirotic pick from last year's draft was outstanding and pretty much universally praised.
QuoteAny team with Rose on it would be a good team.
Not really. If you swapped Rose with John Wall or Corey Maggette, the Wizards and Bobcats still wouldn't be playoff teams. One player isn't enough to do anything. Kevin Love had an amazing year last year (arguably better than Rose's) and Minnesota won 17 games. I think GarPax has done a pretty decent job surrounding Rose with a deep and balanced team.
So you think this Bulls team will win a championship as currently constructed? That's fine if you do, I just don't think they will.
I think one of the best things they did was build up the Bench Mob. There's a reason why they win more games than pretty much every team in the NBA and it's not b/c of Boozer and Noah. It's the 2nd unit.
Yay? In the playoffs when everybody shortens their rotation and the depth isn't an advantage anymore you have to get scoring from somewhere and it aint from your frontcourt. What's a girl to do?
Boozer would be an excellent rotation player in the postseason. But alas...
Chad's taking a "it's not about the destination, it's about the journey" take on the NBA. Screw the playoffs. The regular season is what matters.
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 12:16:10 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 07, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 07, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 08:53:07 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 07, 2012, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You're acting like Ellis can just be had by sending Taj and Asik to Golden State and the Bulls' front office is stubbornly refusing to do it.
QuoteYou don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
Again, why would you hold it against someone that they *possibly considered* drafting a guy who was pretty widely considered the best player in college basketball, but then didn't do it? I guess that there was no reason to not say they were drafting Rose, but there was no reason to say they were taking him either, other than to apparently help you sleep better at night.
QuoteWhat moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth?
- I thought they did a great job before the summer of 2010 in clearing cap space and preparing to make a run at LeBron. It's not their fault that three of the best players on Earth got together and decided they wanted to play together in Miami and win championships.
- I like the Deng extension, which a lot of people were pissed about at the time.
- Despite what Apex says, I think the Noah contract is a pretty good one. It's hard to find decent centers and locking up an athletic, skilled one in his prime rather than leaving the position to twist in the wind is smart.
- Gibson was a good value find late in the draft.
- Korver and Brewer are good role players signed to good contracts.
- CJ Watson was a really nice signing, considering he could start for about half the teams in the NBA.
- The Mirotic pick from last year's draft was outstanding and pretty much universally praised.
QuoteAny team with Rose on it would be a good team.
Not really. If you swapped Rose with John Wall or Corey Maggette, the Wizards and Bobcats still wouldn't be playoff teams. One player isn't enough to do anything. Kevin Love had an amazing year last year (arguably better than Rose's) and Minnesota won 17 games. I think GarPax has done a pretty decent job surrounding Rose with a deep and balanced team.
So you think this Bulls team will win a championship as currently constructed? That's fine if you do, I just don't think they will.
I think one of the best things they did was build up the Bench Mob. There's a reason why they win more games than pretty much every team in the NBA and it's not b/c of Boozer and Noah. It's the 2nd unit.
Yay? In the playoffs when everybody shortens their rotation and the depth isn't an advantage anymore you have to get scoring from somewhere and it aint from your frontcourt. What's a girl to do?
Boozer would be an excellent rotation player in the postseason. But alas...
Chad's taking a "it's not about the destination, it's about the journey" take on the NBA. Screw the playoffs. The regular season is what matters.
All the Chad's in the good seats at the UC teared up when they hoisted the MVP and Coach of The Year banners up to the rafters. The Bood Lights tasted oh, so sweet that day.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 07, 2012, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 12:16:10 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 07, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 07, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 08:53:07 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 07, 2012, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You're acting like Ellis can just be had by sending Taj and Asik to Golden State and the Bulls' front office is stubbornly refusing to do it.
QuoteYou don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
Again, why would you hold it against someone that they *possibly considered* drafting a guy who was pretty widely considered the best player in college basketball, but then didn't do it? I guess that there was no reason to not say they were drafting Rose, but there was no reason to say they were taking him either, other than to apparently help you sleep better at night.
QuoteWhat moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth?
- I thought they did a great job before the summer of 2010 in clearing cap space and preparing to make a run at LeBron. It's not their fault that three of the best players on Earth got together and decided they wanted to play together in Miami and win championships.
- I like the Deng extension, which a lot of people were pissed about at the time.
- Despite what Apex says, I think the Noah contract is a pretty good one. It's hard to find decent centers and locking up an athletic, skilled one in his prime rather than leaving the position to twist in the wind is smart.
- Gibson was a good value find late in the draft.
- Korver and Brewer are good role players signed to good contracts.
- CJ Watson was a really nice signing, considering he could start for about half the teams in the NBA.
- The Mirotic pick from last year's draft was outstanding and pretty much universally praised.
QuoteAny team with Rose on it would be a good team.
Not really. If you swapped Rose with John Wall or Corey Maggette, the Wizards and Bobcats still wouldn't be playoff teams. One player isn't enough to do anything. Kevin Love had an amazing year last year (arguably better than Rose's) and Minnesota won 17 games. I think GarPax has done a pretty decent job surrounding Rose with a deep and balanced team.
So you think this Bulls team will win a championship as currently constructed? That's fine if you do, I just don't think they will.
I think one of the best things they did was build up the Bench Mob. There's a reason why they win more games than pretty much every team in the NBA and it's not b/c of Boozer and Noah. It's the 2nd unit.
Yay? In the playoffs when everybody shortens their rotation and the depth isn't an advantage anymore you have to get scoring from somewhere and it aint from your frontcourt. What's a girl to do?
Boozer would be an excellent rotation player in the postseason. But alas...
Chad's taking a "it's not about the destination, it's about the journey" take on the NBA. Screw the playoffs. The regular season is what matters.
All the Chad's in the good seats at the UC teared up when they hoisted the MVP and Coach of The Year banners up to the rafters. The Bood Lights tasted oh, so sweet that day.
I thougth we were saying good things that GarPax did to show how wrong BH was?
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 07, 2012, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 07, 2012, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 12:16:10 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 07, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 07, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 08:53:07 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 07, 2012, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: BH on March 07, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
Where did I say that was their fault? I was pointing out that they hold on to assets that we'll lose for nothing, when they can be traded for a player that can help score now. With a guy like Ellis, I think the Bulls have a good chance of beating the Heat in the playoffs.
You're acting like Ellis can just be had by sending Taj and Asik to Golden State and the Bulls' front office is stubbornly refusing to do it.
QuoteYou don't remember before Rose was drafted, all the talk about them not sure about who they'd draft? Maybe they always knew they wanted rose, but they sure didn't let on that that was the case, and with the first pick, there was no reason to hide your cards.
Again, why would you hold it against someone that they *possibly considered* drafting a guy who was pretty widely considered the best player in college basketball, but then didn't do it? I guess that there was no reason to not say they were drafting Rose, but there was no reason to say they were taking him either, other than to apparently help you sleep better at night.
QuoteWhat moves did GarPax make that were so good that you have their dong in your mouth?
- I thought they did a great job before the summer of 2010 in clearing cap space and preparing to make a run at LeBron. It's not their fault that three of the best players on Earth got together and decided they wanted to play together in Miami and win championships.
- I like the Deng extension, which a lot of people were pissed about at the time.
- Despite what Apex says, I think the Noah contract is a pretty good one. It's hard to find decent centers and locking up an athletic, skilled one in his prime rather than leaving the position to twist in the wind is smart.
- Gibson was a good value find late in the draft.
- Korver and Brewer are good role players signed to good contracts.
- CJ Watson was a really nice signing, considering he could start for about half the teams in the NBA.
- The Mirotic pick from last year's draft was outstanding and pretty much universally praised.
QuoteAny team with Rose on it would be a good team.
Not really. If you swapped Rose with John Wall or Corey Maggette, the Wizards and Bobcats still wouldn't be playoff teams. One player isn't enough to do anything. Kevin Love had an amazing year last year (arguably better than Rose's) and Minnesota won 17 games. I think GarPax has done a pretty decent job surrounding Rose with a deep and balanced team.
So you think this Bulls team will win a championship as currently constructed? That's fine if you do, I just don't think they will.
I think one of the best things they did was build up the Bench Mob. There's a reason why they win more games than pretty much every team in the NBA and it's not b/c of Boozer and Noah. It's the 2nd unit.
Yay? In the playoffs when everybody shortens their rotation and the depth isn't an advantage anymore you have to get scoring from somewhere and it aint from your frontcourt. What's a girl to do?
Boozer would be an excellent rotation player in the postseason. But alas...
Chad's taking a "it's not about the destination, it's about the journey" take on the NBA. Screw the playoffs. The regular season is what matters.
All the Chad's in the good seats at the UC teared up when they hoisted the MVP and Coach of The Year banners up to the rafters. The Bood Lights tasted oh, so sweet that day.
I thougth we were saying good things that GarPax did to show how wrong BH was?
You thougth-you thougth-you thougth-you thougth!
Obligatory mention that Derrick Rose is awesome. That game-winner was ridiculous. If you haven't seen it while drinking in the tears of the Milwaukee announcers, do so now (http://www.nba.com/video/games/bucks/2012/03/07/0021100575_chi_mil_play5.nba/).
And while I'm here, posting and chugging, his block (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdO26pozhiw) of Brandon Jennings was pretty nice, too.
It seems odd, but Rose is fairly quietly having a better season than he did last year. He's turning it over way less, his field-goal percentage is up and his assist rate is up. Diving deeper into stuff no one here cares about but me, he's also stopped taking as many dumb, long jump shots (3 per game vs. 4.5 per game last year; he's also making them more frequently when he does take them). Those have been replaced by more shots at the rim, which he's making at a higher rate.
In short, Rose won the MVP last year and then got smarter, more efficient and more careful with the ball in the offseason. These are heady times.
Quote from: Eli on March 08, 2012, 09:46:40 AM
Obligatory mention that Derrick Rose is awesome. That game-winner was ridiculous. If you haven't seen it while drinking in the tears of the Milwaukee announcers, do so now (http://www.nba.com/video/games/bucks/2012/03/07/0021100575_chi_mil_play5.nba/).
And while I'm here, posting and chugging, his block (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdO26pozhiw) of Brandon Jennings was pretty nice, too.
It seems odd, but Rose is fairly quietly having a better season than he did last year. He's turning it over way less, his field-goal percentage is up and his assist rate is up. Diving deeper into stuff no one here cares about but me, he's also stopped taking as many dumb, long jump shots (3 per game vs. 4.5 per game last year; he's also making them more frequently when he does take them). Those have been replaced by more shots at the rim, which he's making at a higher rate.
In short, Rose won the MVP last year and then got smarter, more efficient and more careful with the ball in the offseason. These are heady times.
Just fucking drained it. Awesome.
Quote from: PANK! on March 08, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 08, 2012, 09:46:40 AM
Obligatory mention that Derrick Rose is awesome. That game-winner was ridiculous. If you haven't seen it while drinking in the tears of the Milwaukee announcers, do so now (http://www.nba.com/video/games/bucks/2012/03/07/0021100575_chi_mil_play5.nba/).
And while I'm here, posting and chugging, his block (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdO26pozhiw) of Brandon Jennings was pretty nice, too.
It seems odd, but Rose is fairly quietly having a better season than he did last year. He's turning it over way less, his field-goal percentage is up and his assist rate is up. Diving deeper into stuff no one here cares about but me, he's also stopped taking as many dumb, long jump shots (3 per game vs. 4.5 per game last year; he's also making them more frequently when he does take them). Those have been replaced by more shots at the rim, which he's making at a higher rate.
In short, Rose won the MVP last year and then got smarter, more efficient and more careful with the ball in the offseason. These are heady times.
Just fucking drained it. Awesome.
Impossible to guard that shot.
Quote from: BH on March 08, 2012, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 08, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 08, 2012, 09:46:40 AM
Obligatory mention that Derrick Rose is awesome. That game-winner was ridiculous. If you haven't seen it while drinking in the tears of the Milwaukee announcers, do so now (http://www.nba.com/video/games/bucks/2012/03/07/0021100575_chi_mil_play5.nba/).
And while I'm here, posting and chugging, his block (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdO26pozhiw) of Brandon Jennings was pretty nice, too.
It seems odd, but Rose is fairly quietly having a better season than he did last year. He's turning it over way less, his field-goal percentage is up and his assist rate is up. Diving deeper into stuff no one here cares about but me, he's also stopped taking as many dumb, long jump shots (3 per game vs. 4.5 per game last year; he's also making them more frequently when he does take them). Those have been replaced by more shots at the rim, which he's making at a higher rate.
In short, Rose won the MVP last year and then got smarter, more efficient and more careful with the ball in the offseason. These are heady times.
Just fucking drained it. Awesome.
Impossible to guard that shot.
A bigger reason he's not taking so many of those long shots is they don't seem to just fiddlefuck around until like 4 seconds on the shot clock, then he has to just chuck up some terrible shot to beat the clock. I think GarPax has a lot to do with that.
Also, if Noah can hit that lefty shotput/hook thing on a consistant basis, that's going to be a great thing. And a great signing for them.
Quote from: Eli on March 08, 2012, 09:46:40 AM
Obligatory mention that Derrick Rose is awesome. That game-winner was ridiculous. If you haven't seen it while drinking in the tears of the Milwaukee announcers, do so now (http://www.nba.com/video/games/bucks/2012/03/07/0021100575_chi_mil_play5.nba/).
And while I'm here, posting and chugging, his block (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdO26pozhiw) of Brandon Jennings was pretty nice, too.
It seems odd, but Rose is fairly quietly having a better season than he did last year. He's turning it over way less, his field-goal percentage is up and his assist rate is up. Diving deeper into stuff no one here cares about but me, he's also stopped taking as many dumb, long jump shots (3 per game vs. 4.5 per game last year; he's also making them more frequently when he does take them). Those have been replaced by more shots at the rim, which he's making at a higher rate.
In short, Rose won the MVP last year and then got smarter, more efficient and more careful with the ball in the offseason. These are heady times.
The butthurt was palpable.
"Is that the first jumper he's made all night?"
YOU JUST LOST.
Quote from: Eli on March 08, 2012, 09:46:40 AM
Obligatory mention that Derrick Rose is awesome. That game-winner was ridiculous. If you haven't seen it while drinking in the tears of the Milwaukee announcers, do so now (http://www.nba.com/video/games/bucks/2012/03/07/0021100575_chi_mil_play5.nba/).
And while I'm here, posting and chugging, his block (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdO26pozhiw) of Brandon Jennings was pretty nice, too.
It seems odd, but Rose is fairly quietly having a better season than he did last year. He's turning it over way less, his field-goal percentage is up and his assist rate is up. Diving deeper into stuff no one here cares about but me, he's also stopped taking as many dumb, long jump shots (3 per game vs. 4.5 per game last year; he's also making them more frequently when he does take them). Those have been replaced by more shots at the rim, which he's making at a higher rate.
In short, Rose won the MVP last year and then got smarter, more efficient and more careful with the ball in the offseason. These are heady times.
Good stuff, Eli. Have been thinking recently that he seams better this year, but was too lazy to actually dig into it, and you've gone and done the legwork to confirm the thought that I had that I thought no one else cared about.
Quote from: Slaky on March 08, 2012, 10:28:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 08, 2012, 09:46:40 AM
Obligatory mention that Derrick Rose is awesome. That game-winner was ridiculous. If you haven't seen it while drinking in the tears of the Milwaukee announcers, do so now (http://www.nba.com/video/games/bucks/2012/03/07/0021100575_chi_mil_play5.nba/).
And while I'm here, posting and chugging, his block (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdO26pozhiw) of Brandon Jennings was pretty nice, too.
It seems odd, but Rose is fairly quietly having a better season than he did last year. He's turning it over way less, his field-goal percentage is up and his assist rate is up. Diving deeper into stuff no one here cares about but me, he's also stopped taking as many dumb, long jump shots (3 per game vs. 4.5 per game last year; he's also making them more frequently when he does take them). Those have been replaced by more shots at the rim, which he's making at a higher rate.
In short, Rose won the MVP last year and then got smarter, more efficient and more careful with the ball in the offseason. These are heady times.
The butthurt was palpable.
"Is that the first jumper he's made all night?"
YOU JUST LOST.
Palpable Butthurt would be a great name for Taint Nugget to use if they ever start playing at Bulls' games (do they play at Bulls' games?).
But why in the blue fuck did Skiles not send a double team and get the ball out of Rose's hands? I'll go ahead and place the dismissal of that red-assed douche turret in the GarPax plus-column.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 08, 2012, 11:16:12 AM
But why in the blue fuck did Skiles not send a double team and get the ball out of Rose's hands? I'll go ahead and place the dismissal of that red-assed douche turret in the GarPax plus-column.
On Christmas Eve, natch.
Bulls/Heat tonight in a STATEMENT GAME on ESPN. I believe that the Bulls could beat Miami in a 7-game series as presently constituted. It wouldn't be easy and they'd need to get some lucky bounces (not even taking injury into account). The Bulls are playing as well as anyone right now and I think they're going to give Miami fucking hell tonight. Can't wait.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 10:51:01 AM
Bulls/Heat tonight in a STATEMENT GAME on ESPN. I believe that the Bulls could beat Miami in a 7-game series as presently constituted. It wouldn't be easy and they'd need to get some lucky bounces (not even taking injury into account). The Bulls are playing as well as anyone right now and I think they're going to give Miami fucking hell tonight. Can't wait.
Rose may be sitting this one out (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-0314-bulls-rose-chicago--20120314,0,7531804.story). Can wait.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 10:51:01 AM
Bulls/Heat tonight in a STATEMENT GAME on ESPN. I believe that the Bulls could beat Miami in a 7-game series as presently constituted. It wouldn't be easy and they'd need to get some lucky bounces (not even taking injury into account). The Bulls are playing as well as anyone right now and I think they're going to give Miami fucking hell tonight. Can't wait.
I don't believe that you believe this.
I don't believe this.
Quote from: PenPho on March 14, 2012, 11:26:31 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 10:51:01 AM
Bulls/Heat tonight in a STATEMENT GAME on ESPN. I believe that the Bulls could beat Miami in a 7-game series as presently constituted. It wouldn't be easy and they'd need to get some lucky bounces (not even taking injury into account). The Bulls are playing as well as anyone right now and I think they're going to give Miami fucking hell tonight. Can't wait.
I don't believe that you believe this.
I don't believe this.
I'd give them a 30% chance.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 01:43:54 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 14, 2012, 11:26:31 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 10:51:01 AM
Bulls/Heat tonight in a STATEMENT GAME on ESPN. I believe that the Bulls could beat Miami in a 7-game series as presently constituted. It wouldn't be easy and they'd need to get some lucky bounces (not even taking injury into account). The Bulls are playing as well as anyone right now and I think they're going to give Miami fucking hell tonight. Can't wait.
I don't believe that you believe this.
I don't believe this.
I'd give them a 30% chance.
Intrepid Reader: Peter KingBut it's a LEGIT 30%.
See? Nothing to it. 10-19 from deep. Nice!
Question though. When folks got all hindsore about the way the Heat celebrated their vanquishing of the mighty Celts last summer, did they consider scenes like the end of that game at the UC just now? Jesus Christ. Enthusiasm is great but win something first. I don't have a problem with celebrating in either instance but the Heat won't soon forget this shit. It's exactly the kind of thing the Bulls used for motivation in their demolition of the Pacers last week.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
Question though. When folks got all hindsore about the way the Heat celebrated their vanquishing of the mighty Celts last summer, did they consider scenes like the end of that game at the UC just now? Jesus Christ. Enthusiasm is great but win something first. I don't have a problem with celebrating in either instance but the Heat won't soon forget this shit. It's exactly the kind of thing the Bulls used for motivation in their demolition of the Pacers last week.
Did anyone besides John Lucas really celebrate that much? That guy should have celebrated; he's 4-foot-11 and he showed up LeBron James in the 4th quarter of a huge nationally televised game.
LeBron did manage to score 2 more points than DRose did in the 4th quarter, so he's got that going for him.
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
Question though. When folks got all hindsore about the way the Heat celebrated their vanquishing of the mighty Celts last summer, did they consider scenes like the end of that game at the UC just now? Jesus Christ. Enthusiasm is great but win something first. I don't have a problem with celebrating in either instance but the Heat won't soon forget this shit. It's exactly the kind of thing the Bulls used for motivation in their demolition of the Pacers last week.
Did anyone besides John Lucas really celebrate that much? That guy should have celebrated; he's 4-foot-11 and he showed up LeBron James in the 4th quarter of a huge nationally televised game.
LeBron did manage to score 2 more points than DRose did in the 4th quarter, so he's got that going for him.
Did Boozer play?
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
Question though. When folks got all hindsore about the way the Heat celebrated their vanquishing of the mighty Celts last summer, did they consider scenes like the end of that game at the UC just now? Jesus Christ. Enthusiasm is great but win something first. I don't have a problem with celebrating in either instance but the Heat won't soon forget this shit. It's exactly the kind of thing the Bulls used for motivation in their demolition of the Pacers last week.
Did anyone besides John Lucas really celebrate that much? That guy should have celebrated; he's 4-foot-11 and he showed up LeBron James in the 4th quarter of a huge nationally televised game.
LeBron did manage to score 2 more points than DRose did in the 4th quarter, so he's got that going for him.
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
Question though. When folks got all hindsore about the way the Heat celebrated their vanquishing of the mighty Celts last summer, did they consider scenes like the end of that game at the UC just now? Jesus Christ. Enthusiasm is great but win something first. I don't have a problem with celebrating in either instance but the Heat won't soon forget this shit. It's exactly the kind of thing the Bulls used for motivation in their demolition of the Pacers last week.
Did anyone besides John Lucas really celebrate that much? That guy should have celebrated; he's 4-foot-11 and he showed up LeBron James in the 4th quarter of a huge nationally televised game.
LeBron did manage to score 2 more points than DRose did in the 4th quarter, so he's got that going for him.
The Bulls bench was yelling and screaming and waving towels the whole game. I guess it wasn't excessive considering the situation. Lucas showed his ass at the end but he's entitled.
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Yeah, do return to the ice soccer threads and return here when Rose guards one (1) position as well as LeBron guards five. Holy shit.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Yeah, do return to the ice soccer threads and return here when Rose guards one (1) position as well as LeBron guards five. Holy shit.
Lebron's baseline fadeaways are unstoppable. Deng was all over him and he still had no chance. He makes everything look effortless,
against great defenders. No idea why he defers to lesser players, especially at the end of games, but he's by far the best player in the NBA.
If he played during Jordan's era, Jordan would have him bloody and crying by the end of the first quarter.
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Yeah, do return to the ice soccer threads and return here when Rose guards one (1) position as well as LeBron guards five. Holy shit.
Lebron's baseline fadeaways are unstoppable. Deng was all over him and he still had no chance. He makes everything look effortless,
against great defenders. No idea why he defers to lesser players, especially at the end of games, but he's by far the best player in the NBA.
If he played during Jordan's era, Jordan would have him bloody and crying by the end of the first quarter.
If any player in NBA history played in Jordan's era, that would pretty much be the case.
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Yeah, do return to the ice soccer threads and return here when Rose guards one (1) position as well as LeBron guards five. Holy shit.
Lebron's baseline fadeaways are unstoppable. Deng was all over him and he still had no chance. He makes everything look effortless,
against great defenders. No idea why he defers to lesser players, especially at the end of games, but he's by far the best player in the NBA.
If he played during Jordan's era, Jordan would have him bloody and crying by the end of the first quarter.
If any player in NBA history played in Jordan's era, that would pretty much be the case.
How smart was Boozer to take the night off for a playoff sneak attack?
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Yeah, do return to the ice soccer threads and return here when Rose guards one (1) position as well as LeBron guards five. Holy shit.
Lebron's baseline fadeaways are unstoppable. Deng was all over him and he still had no chance. He makes everything look effortless,
against great defenders. No idea why he defers to lesser players, especially at the end of games, but he's by far the best player in the NBA.
If he played during Jordan's era, Jordan would have him bloody and crying by the end of the first quarter.
If any player in NBA history played in Jordan's era, that would pretty much be the case.
Fucking meatballs. Why defer to a lesser player? Because you're double teamed and the lesser player is a hall of famer/all-star about to take advantage of a matchup problem. LeBron and Wade almost pulled that off last night. It doesn't matter who pulls the trigger. If you constantly draw a double team and make a perfect pass to a wide open teammate who is paid to score the basketball, you did your fucking job brilliantly. How much basketball does a person need to watch before comprehending this?
I realize Jordan didn't do that but he's a very special case. The only player I know of who can do what Jordan did at the end of games well enough to win with it is Kobe - and he's managed alienate just about everyone he's ever played with/for in the process.
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 08:26:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
Question though. When folks got all hindsore about the way the Heat celebrated their vanquishing of the mighty Celts last summer, did they consider scenes like the end of that game at the UC just now? Jesus Christ. Enthusiasm is great but win something first. I don't have a problem with celebrating in either instance but the Heat won't soon forget this shit. It's exactly the kind of thing the Bulls used for motivation in their demolition of the Pacers last week.
Did anyone besides John Lucas really celebrate that much? That guy should have celebrated; he's 4-foot-11 and he showed up LeBron James in the 4th quarter of a huge nationally televised game.
LeBron did manage to score 2 more points than DRose did in the 4th quarter, so he's got that going for him.
Did Boozer Bostrich play?
Also invisible'd. Somebody put some muscle in Lucas's frappucino yesterday, that kid's got quite the swagger for a fringe NBA player.
Quote from: R-V on March 15, 2012, 08:54:47 AM
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 08:26:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 14, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
Question though. When folks got all hindsore about the way the Heat celebrated their vanquishing of the mighty Celts last summer, did they consider scenes like the end of that game at the UC just now? Jesus Christ. Enthusiasm is great but win something first. I don't have a problem with celebrating in either instance but the Heat won't soon forget this shit. It's exactly the kind of thing the Bulls used for motivation in their demolition of the Pacers last week.
Did anyone besides John Lucas really celebrate that much? That guy should have celebrated; he's 4-foot-11 and he showed up LeBron James in the 4th quarter of a huge nationally televised game.
LeBron did manage to score 2 more points than DRose did in the 4th quarter, so he's got that going for him.
Did Boozer Bostrich play?
Also invisible'd. Somebody put some muscle in Lucas's frappucino yesterday, that kid's got quite the swagger for a fringe NBA player.
I thought Boozer made a good pass one time early in the game. Noah and Gibson were brilliant. The Bulls have a decided advantage in the frontcourt and the rebounding edge is the reason I think they have a chance against Miami on nights like last when the Heat are getting good looks but not knocking them down. Miami has been playing slow and sluggish for a couple of weeks and it showed up early in the game when they failed to rotate all the way over. JL3 pulled enough shots out of the side of his ass to make them pay - and proceeded to have a really, really, really good time in the process.
Miami is the only team in the NBA that inspires its opponents' absolute best on every single night - at least on the road. At home they'll step on throats early and coast. This team is not in playoff mode yet, nor should it be. I don't know what mode the Bulls are in - Beast/Spazz Mode apparently. They'll probably lock up homecourt again, which is important.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:52:16 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Yeah, do return to the ice soccer threads and return here when Rose guards one (1) position as well as LeBron guards five. Holy shit.
Lebron's baseline fadeaways are unstoppable. Deng was all over him and he still had no chance. He makes everything look effortless,
against great defenders. No idea why he defers to lesser players, especially at the end of games, but he's by far the best player in the NBA.
If he played during Jordan's era, Jordan would have him bloody and crying by the end of the first quarter.
If any player in NBA history played in Jordan's era, that would pretty much be the case.
Fucking meatballs. Why defer to a lesser player? Because you're double teamed and the lesser player is a hall of famer/all-star about to take advantage of a matchup problem. LeBron and Wade almost pulled that off last night. It doesn't matter who pulls the trigger. If you constantly draw a double team and make a perfect pass to a wide open teammate who is paid to score the basketball, you did your fucking job brilliantly. How much basketball does a person need to watch before comprehending this?
I realize Jordan didn't do that but he's a very special case. The only player I know of who can do what Jordan did at the end of games well enough to win with it is Kobe - and he's managed alienate just about everyone he's ever played with/for in the process.
So your point is, a guy shooting over 50% from the floor should defer every time he's double teamed? I'm convinced with 3 guys on him, lebron is still quick enough, strong enough to score on them.
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 09:08:22 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:52:16 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Yeah, do return to the ice soccer threads and return here when Rose guards one (1) position as well as LeBron guards five. Holy shit.
Lebron's baseline fadeaways are unstoppable. Deng was all over him and he still had no chance. He makes everything look effortless,
against great defenders. No idea why he defers to lesser players, especially at the end of games, but he's by far the best player in the NBA.
If he played during Jordan's era, Jordan would have him bloody and crying by the end of the first quarter.
If any player in NBA history played in Jordan's era, that would pretty much be the case.
Fucking meatballs. Why defer to a lesser player? Because you're double teamed and the lesser player is a hall of famer/all-star about to take advantage of a matchup problem. LeBron and Wade almost pulled that off last night. It doesn't matter who pulls the trigger. If you constantly draw a double team and make a perfect pass to a wide open teammate who is paid to score the basketball, you did your fucking job brilliantly. How much basketball does a person need to watch before comprehending this?
I realize Jordan didn't do that but he's a very special case. The only player I know of who can do what Jordan did at the end of games well enough to win with it is Kobe - and he's managed alienate just about everyone he's ever played with/for in the process.
So your point is, a guy shooting over 50% from the floor should defer every time he's double teamed? I'm convinced with 3 guys on him, lebron is still quick enough, strong enough to score on them.
Meatball.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:52:16 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: BH on March 15, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 15, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 15, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
If only ESPN could spit out LeBron's dong long enough to notice that DRose has supplanted him as the best player on the planet.
I enjoy making fun of LeBron, but he's still the best player on Earth.
Yeah, do return to the ice soccer threads and return here when Rose guards one (1) position as well as LeBron guards five. Holy shit.
Lebron's baseline fadeaways are unstoppable. Deng was all over him and he still had no chance. He makes everything look effortless,
against great defenders. No idea why he defers to lesser players, especially at the end of games, but he's by far the best player in the NBA.
If he played during Jordan's era, Jordan would have him bloody and crying by the end of the first quarter.
If any player in NBA history played in Jordan's era, that would pretty much be the case.
Fucking meatballs. Why defer to a lesser player? Because you're double teamed and the lesser player is a hall of famer/all-star about to take advantage of a matchup problem. LeBron and Wade almost pulled that off last night. It doesn't matter who pulls the trigger. If you constantly draw a double team and make a perfect pass to a wide open teammate who is paid to score the basketball, you did your fucking job brilliantly. How much basketball does a person need to watch before comprehending this?
I realize Jordan didn't do that but he's a very special case. The only player I know of who can do what Jordan did at the end of games well enough to win with it is Kobe - and he's managed alienate just about everyone he's ever played with/for in the process.
Well there was that game shortly after he came out of retirement to drop double nickels on the Knicks, but found the totally unsuspected AIR WENNINGTON for the game-winner.
Also, all those times he kept feeding Paxson to close out the Lakers in 1991.
Still, he probably took more big shots than anyone else, so point taken to his specialness in this particular area. Ahhh, memories....
Hehe.
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Quote from: Eli on March 15, 2012, 11:06:12 AM
Hehe.
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I admit it, I LOLed. Loudly. Nice.
This is his worst one yet, and that's saying something.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/03/26/2141/
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 27, 2012, 06:03:20 AM
This is his worst one yet, and that's saying something.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/03/26/2141/
He has to be joking, right? So either the bulls are awesome (win a championship) or totally fucking suck (don't win a championship). And the team that leads the NBA with best record can't win unless they make every free throw and have zero turnovers. Looking at the standings, they must do that almost every game.
Quote from: BH on March 27, 2012, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 27, 2012, 06:03:20 AM
This is his worst one yet, and that's saying something.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/03/26/2141/
He has to be joking, right? So either the bulls are awesome (win a championship) or totally fucking suck (don't win a championship). And the team that leads the NBA with best record can't win unless they make every free throw and have zero turnovers. Looking at the standings, they must do that almost every game.
The other night Morph ran the numbers in the ice soccer shoutbox, and showed there is no correlation between the Bulls' success at the free throw line and win/lose.
Quote from: Fork on March 27, 2012, 08:40:37 AM
Quote from: BH on March 27, 2012, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 27, 2012, 06:03:20 AM
This is his worst one yet, and that's saying something.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/03/26/2141/
He has to be joking, right? So either the bulls are awesome (win a championship) or totally fucking suck (don't win a championship). And the team that leads the NBA with best record can't win unless they make every free throw and have zero turnovers. Looking at the standings, they must do that almost every game.
The other night Morph ran the numbers in the ice soccer shoutbox, and showed there is no correlation between the Bulls' success at the free throw line and win/lose.
LURKER!
I hope this thread doesn't get Ratto'd.
The definition of insanity, as defined by Albert Einstein is doing the same thing countless times while expecting a different result.
Omer Asik being put onto a basketball court is a prime example.
I have no idea what the Bulls saw in this guy to think he is an NBA player. The guy has terrible hands. He can't score. He turns the ball over. When he actually gets the ball, he will do a pump fake only to get the ball stolen from him or get fouled. He will then promptly miss the free throws which teams know they can foul him and not worry about it. While watching Sunday afternoon's tilt against the Thunder in which nobody on the team showed up, the Bulls should do whatever they can to get rid of this guy.
During this game, Russell Westbrook made Asik his bitch by dunking right over him. I said before that if Asik kicked so much ass playing basketball in Turkey, if I could, I would go to Turkey myself to make a living playing basketball. I am only 5'9 and 160 but I can assure whatever team signs me that I can score just as many points as he does and there is a good chance that someone like Westbrook will dunk while I try to block it. In addition to that, I'll take less money.
KD dumps all over (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/tom-thibodeau-weirdly-t-contract-extension-140246328.html) Jerry Reinsdorf. I'll read that any day.
QuoteThe team is cheap, in all the wrong places. It might throw lifetime contracts and gifts aplenty at certain employees, but Jerry Reinsdorf continues to harbor some weird obsession with keeping his coaches in line. And, once he does pay the going rate for a coach (like when he took great pains to point out that Phil Jackson was the highest paid non-GM'ing coach in the NBA, following 1997's contentious offseason), Reinsdorf will take to the media with smarm and sass, complaining about the price of business.
On a related note, in example No. 13,804 of why Tom Thibodeau is brilliant and should be given 10 years and $50 million, if that's what he wants, this (http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/03/29/why-corner-threes-matter-for-defenses/):
QuoteTeams last season shot 39 percent on corner threes, which is about the same percentage teams shoot overall on two-pointers outside the restricted area. Teams last season shot about 35.5 percent on all three-pointers, meaning they shot something like 33.5 percent to 34 percent on three-pointers taken anywhere but the corners. In short: The corner three is a great shot, something Spurs coach Gregg Popovich understood probably before the Internet became a thing.
QuoteThe Bulls through 49 games this season had allowed 140 corner-three attempts. The Sixers, through that same stretch, had allowed the second-fewest — 192. The gap between Chicago and Philly is the equivalent of the gap between the Sixers and the league average for corner-three attempts allowed. Chicago opponents are attempting just 2.85 corner threes per game; the average team attempts about five per game.
Guess who yielded the fewest corner-three attempts last season? The Bulls, with a total of 305, or about 3.8 per game. They have shaved a full attempt off that number this season. Tom Thibodeau is scary.
TIME TO POST A FRO DOG COLUMN
DRose ain't no closer
So on Easter, the Bulls lost with D. Rose and the Heat won without D. Wade. WHERE'S YOUR ZOMBIE JESUS NOW OR SOMETHING!!!!!
God, damn, can the playoffs hurry the fuck up and start?
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 09, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
So on Easter, the Bulls lost with D. Rose and the Heat won without D. Wade. WHERE'S YOUR ZOMBIE JESUS NOW OR SOMETHING!!!!!
God, damn, can the playoffs hurry the fuck up and start?
It was really cute for the Knicks though. Like, super cute.
Quote from: Slaky on April 09, 2012, 01:35:01 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 09, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
So on Easter, the Bulls lost with D. Rose and the Heat won without D. Wade. WHERE'S YOUR ZOMBIE JESUS NOW OR SOMETHING!!!!!
God, damn, can the playoffs hurry the fuck up and start?
It was really cute for the Knicks though. Like, super cute.
So much so. After they get pwned by the Bulls at the UC tomorrow they'll have to go to Milwaukee for a game that really, really matters. Then they'll get the Wiz and the Heat for the weekend. Lucky thing, Philly is headed for the abyss.
The Bulls reached a new low Monday night by losing to the Washington Wizards. Seriously? First, they play like complete shit against the Pistons on Sunday. They had a 14-point lead and blew it to the Pistons. Rose hits a three to force overtime. They commit about five fouls; none of which were called and they end up winning. They make 21 turnovers in the game but still find a way to win against a 22-win team. Fine.
Let's go to Monday against the 14-46 Wizards. Oh man. This is going to be tough. First, they get an 11-point lead in the 4th quarter in which, they promptly cough it up. They miss six free throws and commit 17 turnovers. They had quite a few in the last quarter that ultimately, sealed their fate.
I use to say, well, they beat up on the bums but they lose to teams like the Thunder, Sixers and Pacers. In just over 24 hours, they steal a game from the 22-win Pistons but end up being embarrassed by the now, 15-win Wizards. Also, the Heat won on Monday so the Bulls could still piss away the #1 seed but let's be honest, what does it matter? The Bulls could very well be upset by the Knickerbockers or Sixers. How does anyone expect the Bulls to win a playoff series when they barely beat the Pistons and lose to the Wizards?
Here's another reason why the loss to the 15-46 Wizards hurts: The Spurs won as well on Monday night and the Bulls only have a one-loss lead in the standings for home court. They lead the Eastern Conference by just two losses over the Heat with a match-up on Thursday. Five games left and they have to win at least four of them to secure home court. PATHETIC.
Standing in Ironworks watching Fro react to Asik missing a free throw was the absolute best thing ever.
/thread
#blackbobhummel
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 28, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
/thread
It's karma for those assholes who posted bullshit from Fro all year long.
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2012, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 28, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
/thread
It's karma for those assholes who posted bullshit from Fro all year long.
Seems a little unfair to the rest of us. But if Fro felt any pain from this it's kinda worth it.
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2012, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2012, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 28, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
/thread
It's karma for those assholes who posted bullshit from Fro all year long.
Seems a little unfair to the rest of us. But if Fro felt any pain from this it's kinda worth it.
So what do you guys think: Is this on Thibodeau?
I see people bitching that Rose was still in the game, which is such unmitigated second-guessing. I doubt any of these puds had that thought before the injury happened. It wasn't like they were up 30. It was still a 4 possession game with a couiple minutes left. Bulls "fans" might be the worst fans in town--and that's no small feat.
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2012, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 28, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
/thread
It's karma for those assholes who posted bullshit from Fro all year long.
This is exactly what Fro would say.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 29, 2012, 12:36:31 AM
So what do you guys think: Is this on Thibodeau?
Nah. Thibs has as much to do with the Bulls' success as Rose (arguably more). And he's so good because he over-prepares and over-analyzes and nothing is ever good enough for him, like a 12-point lead with 90 seconds left. That's usually to the Bulls' benefit. Unfortunately, it backfired this time. You can't get upset with him for asking his basketball players to play basketball in the playoffs. The guy's earned the benefit of the doubt from me for a long, long time.
I still think the Bulls have a shot at making the conference finals without Rose*. They have almost no chance at a title now, but like Andy said (http://twitter.com/#!/desipiodotcom/status/196383551829192704), they'll still make us proud. You know, if you're the type of person that still has the capacity to be sincere about sports.
* Admittedly, my track record of optimism in the face of sports-tragedy hasn't ever really panned out. I thought the Cubs would win Game 7 of the NLCS in 2003; I was sure the Bears could win enough games to make the playoffs without Cutler; just yesterday, I thought Rose was fine because he put weight on his knee walking down the tunnel. So, nevermind. They could still lose to the Sixers in 7.
Quote from: Eli on April 29, 2012, 08:46:52 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 29, 2012, 12:36:31 AM
So what do you guys think: Is this on Thibodeau?
Nah. Thibs has as much to do with the Bulls' success as Rose (arguably more). And he's so good because he over-prepares and over-analyzes and nothing is ever good enough for him, like a 12-point lead with 90 seconds left. That's usually to the Bulls' benefit. Unfortunately, it backfired this time. You can't get upset with him for asking his basketball players to play basketball in the playoffs. The guy's earned the benefit of the doubt from me for a long, long time.
I still think the Bulls have a shot at making the conference finals without Rose*. They have almost no chance at a title now, but like Andy said (http://twitter.com/#!/desipiodotcom/status/196383551829192704), they'll still make us proud. You know, if you're the type of person that still has the capacity to be sincere about sports.
* Admittedly, my track record of optimism in the face of sports-tragedy hasn't ever really panned out. I thought the Cubs would win Game 7 of the NLCS in 2003; I was sure the Bears could win enough games to make the playoffs without Cutler; just yesterday, I thought Rose was fine because he put weight on his knee walking down the tunnel. So, nevermind. They could still lose to the Sixers in 7.
Yeah, I'm still confused as to how this could be Thibodeau's fault. A 10 point lead with just over a minute to play doesn't seem insurmountable to me. And it's not like the 76ers sent their 12th man onto the floor to cheap shot Rose - it was just a freak occurrence. A terrible, terrible freak occurrence.
If you're going to blame anyone, blame Apex. Rose never got hurt until he started watching the NBA again.
My bad, this is apparently Adidas' fault.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/nike-designer-injured-derrick-rose-adidas-man-chose-040710618.html
With the type of defense the Bulls play, 12 points with 90 seconds is a done-deal. Rose needed an assist and a board for a triple-double. And you know he wanted it. First game back, and everybody was excited. Even Thibs. It happens. What's important to remember is that Rose was going to break down at some point because all of the nagging injuries had piled up and something had to give. It was his left ACL that finally had enough.
I really do understand that Thibs is motivated to win constantly and it is to his credit that he's able to motivate guys to play with super retard strength every night during the least interesting regular season since the color barrier was broken. And the toll is obvious. That coveted number one seed will do them absolutely no good once again. I don't have a medical degree that will allow me to say with any certainty that Thibs' methods led to the demise of Rose, Deng, Hamilton et al. but it's a vast departure from what Popovich did and his team appears healthy at present.
In short, the Bulls will continue to make you proud if you love basketball because they play the game the right way. With super retard strength.
Quote from: PANK! on April 29, 2012, 06:59:21 AM
I see people bitching that Rose was still in the game, which is such unmitigated second-guessing. I doubt any of these puds had that thought before the injury happened. It wasn't like they were up 30. It was still a 4 possession game with a couiple minutes left. Bulls "fans" might be the worst fans in town--and that's no small feat.
I think there is a big chasm between fans who actually know the game and the Chads in the 100 section who grew up watching Jordan have his way with the world. I get frustrated with the overall lack of basic basketball IQ I encounter in the city but there are some old heads and some brothers who truly love and understand the game. I need to get Rahm to give them a computer.
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 29, 2012, 12:14:31 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 29, 2012, 06:59:21 AM
I see people bitching that Rose was still in the game, which is such unmitigated second-guessing. I doubt any of these puds had that thought before the injury happened. It wasn't like they were up 30. It was still a 4 possession game with a couiple minutes left. Bulls "fans" might be the worst fans in town--and that's no small feat.
I think there is a big chasm between fans who actually know the game and the Chads in the 100 section who grew up watching Jordan have his way with the world. I get frustrated with the overall lack of basic basketball IQ I encounter in the city but there are some old heads and some brothers who truly love and understand the game. I need to get Rahm to give them a computer.
Donate yours please
My dad apparently reads Penisnose so I don't have to. If not for the discussion I had with him earlier today, I may have gone to my grave unaware of this (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/morrissey/12197683-452/why-knee-why-now-theres-no-good-reason-why-derrick-rose-was-in-the-game.html).
QuoteDerrick Rose was clutching his left knee in pain, and the question that a lot of people had been asking themselves in the minutes before the injury occurred suddenly became a plaintive, frustrated cry:
Why?
Why in the world was the Bulls' superstar still playing when Saturday's game was already in hand?
Why in the world does someone pay this man to express his thoughts on SPORTZ?
I was thinking of the fans when I made my comment. Silly of me to not have anticipated the writers' ability to be super-shitheaded.
I remember when VDN was criticized by management for playing Noah too much when he was coming off injury, and noah isn't all that good. Wonder how Garpax feel about Rose going down. Thibs rides his horses, nothing wrong with that, he's always done that. Even if Rose would have been taken out, at some point this playoffs he had a high likelihood of his knee getting hurt I would think.
Quote from: BH on April 30, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
I remember when VDN was criticized by management for playing Noah too much when he was coming off injury, and noah isn't all that good. Wonder how Garpax feel about Rose going down. Thibs rides his horses, nothing wrong with that, he's always done that. Even if Rose would have been taken out, at some point this playoffs he had a high likelihood of his knee getting hurt I would think.
Jason Goff and Dan Bernstein were just saying on The Score that Derrick had switched from lace-up ankle braces to tape. And an athletic trainer of some ilk called in to say that taping ankles puts more stress on knees, and taping knees in turn stresses the hip. The give has to come somewhere. I'd say we just had a conglomeration of factors leading to a high probability for a serious injury.
The toe, the groin, the ankle, the back, the dumb schedule, the tape, the coach who rides his horses(,dude) - they all add up to a serious risk. The man was on borrowed time this year and there isn't one simple reason why.
As for what GarPax feels, I'd guess it has a sads.
But anyway... Bench Mob! The NBA's best bums are set to take on the world. I think they have enough to beat Philly in 5 or 6 games and if Boston doesn't survive Atlanta, this Bulls team could be bound for another showdown with the Heat. JLIII must be licking his chops.
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 30, 2012, 03:02:15 PM
Quote from: BH on April 30, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
I remember when VDN was criticized by management for playing Noah too much when he was coming off injury, and noah isn't all that good. Wonder how Garpax feel about Rose going down. Thibs rides his horses, nothing wrong with that, he's always done that. Even if Rose would have been taken out, at some point this playoffs he had a high likelihood of his knee getting hurt I would think.
Jason Goff and Dan Bernstein were just saying on The Score that Derrick had switched from lace-up ankle braces to tape. And an athletic trainer of some ilk called in to say that taping ankles puts more stress on knees, and taping knees in turn stresses the hip. The give has to come somewhere. I'd say we just had a conglomeration of factors leading to a high probability for a serious injury.
The toe, the groin, the ankle, the back, the dumb schedule, the tape, the coach who rides his horses(,dude) - they all add up to a serious risk. The man was on borrowed time this year and there isn't one simple reason why.
As for what GarPax feels, I'd guess it has a sads.
Also, it's weird but when people play a lot of sports they tend to get injured sometimes.
Of course, we can also go smash our heads against so many brick walls trying to figure out why.
Quote from: Slaky on April 30, 2012, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 30, 2012, 03:02:15 PM
Quote from: BH on April 30, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
I remember when VDN was criticized by management for playing Noah too much when he was coming off injury, and noah isn't all that good. Wonder how Garpax feel about Rose going down. Thibs rides his horses, nothing wrong with that, he's always done that. Even if Rose would have been taken out, at some point this playoffs he had a high likelihood of his knee getting hurt I would think.
Jason Goff and Dan Bernstein were just saying on The Score that Derrick had switched from lace-up ankle braces to tape. And an athletic trainer of some ilk called in to say that taping ankles puts more stress on knees, and taping knees in turn stresses the hip. The give has to come somewhere. I'd say we just had a conglomeration of factors leading to a high probability for a serious injury.
The toe, the groin, the ankle, the back, the dumb schedule, the tape, the coach who rides his horses(,dude) - they all add up to a serious risk. The man was on borrowed time this year and there isn't one simple reason why.
As for what GarPax feels, I'd guess it has a sads.
Also, it's weird but when people play a lot of sports they tend to get injured sometimes.
Of course, we can also go smash our heads against so many brick walls trying to figure out why.
I'm no expert, but not smashing your head against a brick wall would probably be a good start.
Quote from: Fork on April 30, 2012, 07:06:02 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 30, 2012, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 30, 2012, 03:02:15 PM
Quote from: BH on April 30, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
I remember when VDN was criticized by management for playing Noah too much when he was coming off injury, and noah isn't all that good. Wonder how Garpax feel about Rose going down. Thibs rides his horses, nothing wrong with that, he's always done that. Even if Rose would have been taken out, at some point this playoffs he had a high likelihood of his knee getting hurt I would think.
Jason Goff and Dan Bernstein were just saying on The Score that Derrick had switched from lace-up ankle braces to tape. And an athletic trainer of some ilk called in to say that taping ankles puts more stress on knees, and taping knees in turn stresses the hip. The give has to come somewhere. I'd say we just had a conglomeration of factors leading to a high probability for a serious injury.
The toe, the groin, the ankle, the back, the dumb schedule, the tape, the coach who rides his horses(,dude) - they all add up to a serious risk. The man was on borrowed time this year and there isn't one simple reason why.
As for what GarPax feels, I'd guess it has a sads.
Also, it's weird but when people play a lot of sports they tend to get injured sometimes.
Of course, we can also go smash our heads against so many brick walls trying to figure out why.
I'm no expert, but not smashing your head against a brick wall would probably be a good start.
Indeed.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--amar-e-stoudemire-cuts-hand-punching-wall.html;_ylt=AhmoVwPFu1Ila8QJYAkeoyI5nYcB
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 01, 2012, 08:26:42 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 30, 2012, 07:06:02 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 30, 2012, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 30, 2012, 03:02:15 PM
Quote from: BH on April 30, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
I remember when VDN was criticized by management for playing Noah too much when he was coming off injury, and noah isn't all that good. Wonder how Garpax feel about Rose going down. Thibs rides his horses, nothing wrong with that, he's always done that. Even if Rose would have been taken out, at some point this playoffs he had a high likelihood of his knee getting hurt I would think.
Jason Goff and Dan Bernstein were just saying on The Score that Derrick had switched from lace-up ankle braces to tape. And an athletic trainer of some ilk called in to say that taping ankles puts more stress on knees, and taping knees in turn stresses the hip. The give has to come somewhere. I'd say we just had a conglomeration of factors leading to a high probability for a serious injury.
The toe, the groin, the ankle, the back, the dumb schedule, the tape, the coach who rides his horses(,dude) - they all add up to a serious risk. The man was on borrowed time this year and there isn't one simple reason why.
As for what GarPax feels, I'd guess it has a sads.
Also, it's weird but when people play a lot of sports they tend to get injured sometimes.
Of course, we can also go smash our heads against so many brick walls trying to figure out why.
I'm no expert, but not smashing your head against a brick wall would probably be a good start.
Indeed.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--amar-e-stoudemire-cuts-hand-punching-wall.html;_ylt=AhmoVwPFu1Ila8QJYAkeoyI5nYcB
If anybody cares about such a thing, Popovich named Coach of the Year, Thibs finishes second. (http://www.nba.com/2012/news/05/01/coach-of-the-year/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2)
Going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard is like going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard.
There's no other way to complete that analogy because it's the worst thing that could ever happen.
Quote from: Eli on May 02, 2012, 08:12:12 AM
Going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard is like going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard.
There's no other way to complete that analogy because it's the worst thing that could ever happen.
It's even more sad when Mike James is a better option. I liked seeing Lucas dribble out the shot clock, then hand it off to someone with 5 sec to make a play.
Quote from: BH on May 02, 2012, 08:40:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 02, 2012, 08:12:12 AM
Going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard is like going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard.
There's no other way to complete that analogy because it's the worst thing that could ever happen.
It's even more sad when Mike James is a better option. I liked seeing Lucas dribble out the shot clock, then hand it off to someone with 5 sec to make a play.
After some rough calculations, I'm fairly certain that Lucas leads the NBA in dribbles-per-possession with 472.3.
Quote from: BH on May 02, 2012, 08:40:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 02, 2012, 08:12:12 AM
Going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard is like going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard.
There's no other way to complete that analogy because it's the worst thing that could ever happen.
It's even more sad when Mike James is a better option. I liked seeing Lucas dribble out the shot clock, then hand it off to someone with 5 sec to make a play.
He's just too little to be out there. At least Mugsey or Spud were fast as hell and drive to the hoop. Lucas III just dribbles like a tard, and then jacks up a shot that he thinks is awesome b/c he scored 90 points at Rucker Park once.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 02, 2012, 09:20:46 AM
Quote from: BH on May 02, 2012, 08:40:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 02, 2012, 08:12:12 AM
Going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard is like going from Derrick Rose to John Lucas at point guard.
There's no other way to complete that analogy because it's the worst thing that could ever happen.
It's even more sad when Mike James is a better option. I liked seeing Lucas dribble out the shot clock, then hand it off to someone with 5 sec to make a play.
He's just too little to be out there. At least Mugsey or Spud were fast as hell and drive to the hoop. Lucas III just dribbles like a tard, and then jacks up a shot that he thinks is awesome b/c he scored 90 points at Rucker Park once.
And he makes just enough of those stupid shots to mentally justify the next 10 ill-advised ones.
Did anyone else see me bank in that running floater over Elton Brand? And then hurl my tiny body into camera row to try and draw a foul, then take five seconds to get up and not be in position to get back on defense so the 76ers got yet another fast-break dunk? I am awesome!(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/carlton-dance-gif.gif)
Time to post! Time to shoot!
I hate to laugh at your pain because I know how I felt when CALEB HANIE was dropping his weekly deuce into my Cheerios, but wow. Please continue.
Test.
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae252/AshleyBurns1979/WadePush.gif)
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 03, 2012, 10:47:50 AM
Test.
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae252/AshleyBurns1979/WadePush.gif)
Yup, Wade definitely deserved the ejection and suspension he got for that.
Quote from: Eli on May 03, 2012, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 03, 2012, 10:47:50 AM
Test.
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae252/AshleyBurns1979/WadePush.gif)
Yup, Wade definitely deserved the ejection and suspension he got for that.
Every bit of it. One of the finest flops you'll ever see.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 03, 2012, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 03, 2012, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 03, 2012, 10:47:50 AM
Test.
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae252/AshleyBurns1979/WadePush.gif)
Yup, Wade definitely deserved the ejection and suspension he got for that.
Every bit of it. One of the finest flops you'll ever see.
So much so that it actually looks like Wade, rather than playing "defense," uses his left hand to shove Rip, who is simply trying to pass the ball, violently backwards from a position in which he is standing up straight. That's some quality acting by Rip. No way Wade did anything dirty there.
Quote from: morpheus on May 04, 2012, 11:00:13 AM
So much so that it actually looks like Wade, rather than playing "defense," uses his left hand entire fucking body to shove Rip, who is simply trying to pass the ball, violently backwards from a position in which he is standing up straight. That's some quality acting by Rip. No way Wade did anything dirty there.
Really puts his back and legs into Rip's flop'd
I detect asshurt.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 07, 2012, 08:53:32 AM
I detect asshurt.
Maybe, but it could also just be your own feedback.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 07, 2012, 08:53:32 AM
I detect asshurt.
I'm not asshurt - I'm also not a so-called die hard Bulls fan because I'm not ready to kill myself over this. It's depressing to see a team with a lot of promise lose two of their best players to injury early enough in a series. It's also pretty insane the way Bulls fans are reacting. How can you still watch these games expecting the Bulls to cruise?
To judge this team based on what's happened in these games with Philadelphia is insane. Yet people are ready to throw everyone off the team and start over because clearly they stink.
Bulls fans are as dumb as the rest of us.
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 07, 2012, 08:53:32 AM
I detect asshurt.
I'm not asshurt - I'm also not a so-called die hard Bulls fan because I'm not ready to kill myself over this. It's depressing to see a team with a lot of promise lose two of their best players to injury early enough in a series. It's also pretty insane the way Bulls fans are reacting. How can you still watch these games expecting the Bulls to cruise?
To judge this team based on what's happened in these games with Philadelphia is insane. Yet people are ready to throw everyone off the team and start over because clearly they stink.
Bulls fans are as dumb as the rest of us.
I saw someone say that the only players worth keeping are Rose and Noah, and that the Bulls should ditch everyone else and start over. That's some Grade A Moping Dumbassery right there.
I will say that this series show just how impossibly lucky the Bulls were to have Rose fall in their laps, but that doesn't mean everyone else on the team is useless.
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 07, 2012, 08:53:32 AM
I detect asshurt.
I'm not asshurt - I'm also not a so-called die hard Bulls fan because I'm not ready to kill myself over this. It's depressing to see a team with a lot of promise lose two of their best players to injury early enough in a series. It's also pretty insane the way Bulls fans are reacting. How can you still watch these games expecting the Bulls to cruise?
To judge this team based on what's happened in these games with Philadelphia is insane. Yet people are ready to throw everyone off the team and start over because clearly they stink.
Bulls fans are as dumb as the rest of us.
I saw someone say that the only players worth keeping are Rose and Noah, and that the Bulls should ditch everyone else and start over. That's some Grade A Moping Dumbassery right there.
I will say that this series show just how impossibly lucky the Bulls were to have Rose fall in their laps, but that doesn't mean everyone else on the team is useless.
Absolutely right. I've heard a few people say that if the Bulls had not blundered in essentially trading Lamarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas, they would not have been bad enough to enter the lottery which landed them Derrick Rose. That is almost certainly true. It's stupid how close they are to being the Sixers or Hawks or Jazz or Nuggets.
EDIT: Oh, right again. http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7796.msg245275#new
Just. Read. This.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/05/11/why-every-bull-pisses-me-off/
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 11, 2012, 06:04:56 AM
Just. Read. This.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/05/11/why-every-bull-pisses-me-off/
Not even clicking on it. The headline made me laugh, though. That's sufficient.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 11, 2012, 06:04:56 AM
Just. Read. This.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/05/11/why-every-bull-pisses-me-off/
I like where he says that there's a fine line between stupid and asinine.
Quote from: Eli on May 11, 2012, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 11, 2012, 06:04:56 AM
Just. Read. This.
http://firejerryangelo.org/2012/05/11/why-every-bull-pisses-me-off/
I like where he says that there's a fine line between stupid and asinine.
Is that a Wings song?
Noah makes $15 million a year? Next year, Boozer will make more than Rose.
Quote from: BH on May 14, 2012, 08:09:59 AM
Noah makes $15 million a year? Next year, Boozer will make more than Rose.
LeBron makes $16 million.