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Title: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on December 07, 2011, 12:23:27 PM
(http://p.twimg.com/Af_4I4dCQAAERFB.jpg)

This is going to be a lot of fun. I really don't care where he goes, as long as its not St Louis because I want to see those fucking fans suffer after their fabled first baseman spurns them, even better if its for Ozzie and Co.

Fuck those fucking whiny pussy assholes.


Also, thats seriously their new unis? Bleh
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on December 07, 2011, 01:13:37 PM
Now that you've started this thread, I expect Pujols to re-up with the Cardinals within 24 hours.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on December 07, 2011, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 07, 2011, 01:13:37 PM
Now that you've started this thread, I expect Pujols to re-up with the Cardinals within 24 hours.

At least we'll know who to blame.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on December 07, 2011, 01:36:49 PM
And what the hell is up with those uniforms? Looks like some crappy 1985 concoction. Get off the Giants' dicks, Miami.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on December 07, 2011, 02:06:04 PM
If Pujols signs with Miami, do the Dolphins throw the mint at Peyton Manning this spring?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on December 07, 2011, 04:10:02 PM
I can feel my butthurt rising...
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenPho on December 07, 2011, 04:28:59 PM
Quote from: Brownie on December 07, 2011, 02:06:04 PM
If Pujols signs with Miami, do the Dolphins throw the mint at Peyton Manning this spring?

And derail the Matt Moore Express?!?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 07, 2011, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on December 07, 2011, 04:10:02 PM
I can feel my butthurt rising...

Gross.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on December 07, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
I would love to see the DeadBirds tie up $225 million in a 45 year old athlete.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: BBM on December 07, 2011, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 07, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
I would love to see the DeadBirds tie up $225 million in a 45 year old athlete.

Wait, Albert is Julio Franco's grandson?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on December 07, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: BBM on December 07, 2011, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 07, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
I would love to see the DeadBirds tie up $225 million in a 45 year old athlete.

Wait, Albert is Julio Franco's grandson?

Opposite.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 08, 2011, 07:55:30 AM
Quote from: CBStew on December 07, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
I would love to see the DeadBirds tie up $225 million in a 45 year old athlete.

With blood testing in the new CBA.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on December 08, 2011, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on December 07, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: BBM on December 07, 2011, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 07, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
I would love to see the DeadBirds tie up $225 million in a 45 year old athlete.

Wait, Albert is Julio Franco's grandson?

Opposite.

Ah, so he's not Julio Franco's grandson.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 08, 2011, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on December 07, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: BBM on December 07, 2011, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 07, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
I would love to see the DeadBirds tie up $225 million in a 45 year old athlete.

Wait, Albert is Julio Franco's grandson?

Opposite.

Ah, so he's not Julio Franco's grandson.

Granddaughter? Wow. HGH is a helluva drug.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on December 08, 2011, 09:05:05 AM
He's an Angel folks. An Angel!


GOOOOOOODBYE FUCKER!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on December 08, 2011, 09:08:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 08, 2011, 09:05:05 AM
He's an Angel folks. An Angel!


GOOOOOOODBYE FUCKER!

METHOCALYPSE COMMENCES.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 08, 2011, 09:09:18 AM
Meth all around!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on December 08, 2011, 09:14:57 AM
Nice work, Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 09:45:15 AM
I like that the Cubs won't have to see him again but I am not in the mood to gloat over the demise of a team that just won the World Series.

Packers
Cardinals
Undefeated Packers.

SPORTZ are fucking ghey. Let's talk about Gilstories or politics or something.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on December 08, 2011, 09:46:11 AM
Any word on whether or not the Angels have signed his pharmacist?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on December 08, 2011, 09:57:32 AM
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/386039_561458327964_211300033_31664486_909589082_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on December 08, 2011, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 09:45:15 AM
I like that the Cubs won't have to see him again but I am not in the mood to gloat over the demise of a team that just won the World Series.

Packers
Cardinals
Undefeated Packers.

SPORTZ are fucking ghey. Let's talk about Gilstories or politics or something.

Plus, don't look now, but the Cardinals might be in the Aramis Ramirez and Prince Fielder derbies now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on December 08, 2011, 10:06:13 AM
DPD. Those of you into Bernie-porn can read his column today expressing shock (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-what-else-can-pujols-want/article_31828a7c-af37-519e-9d6c-ac34299b95fc.html) in Pujols taking $50MM more to play in the shithole known as Orange County, California instead of staying in cosmopolitan St. Louis.

He could have been like the Stan the Man! Except Stan the Man never had the chance to test the free agency waters, where he might have signed a multi-year deal with the Yankees to take advantage of the short RF porch and bat behind Mantle.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on December 08, 2011, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 09:45:15 AM
I like that the Cubs won't have to see him again but I am not in the mood to gloat over the demise of a team that just won the World Series.

Packers
Cardinals
Undefeated Packers.

SPORTZ are fucking ghey. Let's talk about Gilstories or politics or something.

Will it be fucking ghey when the Packers lose to the Niners in the playoffs?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on December 08, 2011, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: Brownie on December 08, 2011, 10:06:13 AM
He could have been like the Stan the Man! Except Stan the Man never had the chance to test the free agency waters, where he might have signed a multi-year deal with the Yankees to take advantage of the short RF porch and bat behind Mantle.

Stan the Man wasn't some uppity Curt Flood, TJ.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenPho on December 08, 2011, 11:13:20 AM
(http://s1-04.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/467542977.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on December 08, 2011, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: PenPho on December 08, 2011, 11:13:20 AM
(http://s1-04.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/467542977.jpg)

And after all they've done for him!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 08, 2011, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 09:45:15 AM
I like that the Cubs won't have to see him again but I am not in the mood to gloat over the demise of a team that just won the World Series.

Packers
Cardinals
Undefeated Packers.

SPORTZ are fucking ghey. Let's talk about Gilstories or politics or something.

Will it be fucking ghey when the Packers lose to the Niners in the playoffs?

You spelled "Saints" wrong. Breesus saves.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 08, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
Sneak attack alert! (http://mobile.chicagotribune.com/p.p?m=b&a=rp&id=1304607&postId=1304607&postUserId=54&sessionToken=&catId=6772&curAbsIndex=1&resultsUrl=DID%3D6%26DFCL%3D1000%26DSB%3Drank%2523desc%26DBFQ%3DuserId%253A54%26DFC%3Dcat1%252Ccat2%252Ccat3%26DL.w%3D%26DL.d%3D10%26DQ%3DsectionId%253A6772%26DPS%3D0%26DPL%3D3)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on December 08, 2011, 11:53:38 AM
LOL at the Angels ($250M?  SRSLY?) and the Tards.  Oh, this is too good.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on December 08, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
Fuck St. Louis, fuck the Cardinals, fuck their fans and especially fuck Albert Pujols.

I'm fucking glad that the Cubs will only have to play him four times next year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: Tonker on December 08, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
Fuck St. Louis, fuck the Cardinals, fuck their fans and especially fuck Albert Pujols.

I'm fucking glad that the Cubs will only have to play him four times next year.

Maybe fewer because of the whole split squad thing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on December 08, 2011, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: Tonker on December 08, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
Fuck St. Louis, fuck the Cardinals, fuck their fans and especially fuck Albert Pujols.

I'm fucking glad that the Cubs will only have to play him four times next year.

Maybe fewer because of the whole split squad thing.

The World Series is best of seven, Pex.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on December 09, 2011, 04:56:05 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on December 08, 2011, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: Tonker on December 08, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
Fuck St. Louis, fuck the Cardinals, fuck their fans and especially fuck Albert Pujols.

I'm fucking glad that the Cubs will only have to play him four times next year.

Maybe fewer because of the whole split squad thing.

The World Series is best of seven, Pex.

ChuckD swaw what I did, there.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on December 09, 2011, 08:27:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/yeRu3.png)

BFIBB™
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on December 09, 2011, 09:54:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 09, 2011, 08:27:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/yeRu3.png)

BFIBB™

Awesome. Stolen for Twitter.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on December 09, 2011, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 09, 2011, 09:54:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 09, 2011, 08:27:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/yeRu3.png)

BFIBB™

Awesome. Stolen for Twitter.

Full res, if you care: http://i.imgur.com/CS9lN.png
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on December 09, 2011, 10:51:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on December 09, 2011, 04:56:05 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on December 08, 2011, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: Tonker on December 08, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
Fuck St. Louis, fuck the Cardinals, fuck their fans and especially fuck Albert Pujols.

I'm fucking glad that the Cubs will only have to play him four times next year.

Maybe fewer because of the whole split squad thing.

The World Series is best of seven, Pex.

ChuckD swaw what I did, there.

I swaw it too. But I was bweing a smartass.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on January 06, 2012, 09:20:10 AM
Dave Duncan, gone.

Matt Morris, in.

(Second one is speculative)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on January 06, 2012, 09:20:10 AM
Dave Duncan, gone.

Matt Morris, in.

(Second one is speculative)

My haterection is already at half-mast.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on January 16, 2012, 08:25:58 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 08, 2011, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 08, 2011, 09:45:15 AM
I like that the Cubs won't have to see him again but I am not in the mood to gloat over the demise of a team that just won the World Series.

Packers
Cardinals
Undefeated Packers.

SPORTZ are fucking ghey. Let's talk about Gilstories or politics or something.

Will it be fucking ghey when the Packers lose to the Niners in the playoffs?

You spelled "Saints" wrong. Breesus saves.

Guess we both spelled "Giants" wrong.

There is no god but Eli and Hakeem is his messenger?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on March 31, 2012, 07:55:36 AM
QuoteMike Lang, spokesman for the Illinois Lottery, said his state's winning ticket was sold in the small town of Red Bud, near St. Louis. The winner used a quick pick to select the numbers, he said.

That's a lot of meth.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: BC on April 01, 2012, 10:57:06 PM
If only Red Bud had been a sled.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on April 01, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
Quote from: BC on April 01, 2012, 10:57:06 PM
If only Red Bud had been a sled.

...

Too soon?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Gilgamesh on April 01, 2012, 11:35:55 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 01, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
Quote from: BC on April 01, 2012, 10:57:06 PM
If only Red Bud had been a sled.

...

Too soon?

SPOILER ALERT, MOTHAFUCKAS!!!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on April 04, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

I walked up to a TV at the gym and saw they had a 3-0 lead. The hate flowed hot and heavy. I'm going to be just fine.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 04, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 04, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

I walked up to a TV at the gym and saw they had a 3-0 lead. The hate flowed hot and heavy. I'm going to be just fine.

The day I can't arbitrarily hate something is the day I stop watching sports.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on April 04, 2012, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 04, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 04, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

I walked up to a TV at the gym and saw they had a 3-0 lead. The hate flowed hot and heavy. I'm going to be just fine.

The day I can't arbitrarily hate something is the day I stop watching sports.

That's the day I stop doing everything.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 04, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: flannj on April 04, 2012, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 04, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 04, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

I walked up to a TV at the gym and saw they had a 3-0 lead. The hate flowed hot and heavy. I'm going to be just fine.

The day I can't arbitrarily hate something is the day I stop watching sports.

That's the day I stop doing everything.

Touché.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on April 04, 2012, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 04, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 04, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

I walked up to a TV at the gym and saw they had a 3-0 lead. The hate flowed hot and heavy. I'm going to be just fine.

The day I can't arbitrarily hate something is the day I stop watching sports.

I'd hate not being able to hate something, so I guess I don't have to worry.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 05, 2012, 07:18:43 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

Talk to a Cardinals fan. That'll jumpstart your hate engine good & proper.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on April 05, 2012, 07:46:50 AM
I'm pretty sure that Matheny is going to be just as hateworthy, given time, as the Genius.  In fact, nothing would endear him to the mouthbreathing masses more than getting up our noses from day one, so we might even find that he gets up to speed within a week or two.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 05, 2012, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 05, 2012, 07:18:43 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

Talk to a Cardinals fan. That'll jumpstart your hate engine good & proper.

I hated the Cardinals back when LaRussa was in Oakland and Pujols was in his mid-50s.  I can recapture the old-fashioned pure hate that I had for them in my youth.  I know I can.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2012, 09:46:26 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 05, 2012, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 05, 2012, 07:18:43 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

Talk to a Cardinals fan. That'll jumpstart your hate engine good & proper.

I hated the Cardinals back when LaRussa was in Oakland and Pujols was in his mid-50s.  I can recapture the old-fashioned pure hate that I had for them in my youth.  I know I can.

Cardinal-fan coworker to me this morning: "The Cardinals won the last game of last season and the first game of this season."

(despite the fact that the first games took place in Tokyo, but facts don't usually matter to Cardinal fans)

Use that to get your haterection up.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on April 05, 2012, 10:31:20 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2012, 09:46:26 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 05, 2012, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 05, 2012, 07:18:43 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

Talk to a Cardinals fan. That'll jumpstart your hate engine good & proper.

I hated the Cardinals back when LaRussa was in Oakland and Pujols was in his mid-50s.  I can recapture the old-fashioned pure hate that I had for them in my youth.  I know I can.

Cardinal-fan coworker to me this morning: "The Cardinals won the last game of last season and the first game of this season."

(despite the fact that the first games took place in Tokyo, but facts don't usually matter to Cardinal fans)

Use that to get your haterection up.

*smashes cubicle*
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on April 05, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
Rafael Furcal is still a Cardinal and a roided-up freak is still their hitting coach.

So, yeah, fuck them with a rusty fucking chainsaw.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 05, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
Rafael Furcal is still a Cardinal and a roided-up freak is still their hitting coach.

So, yeah, fuck them with a rusty fucking chainsaw AIDSSaw.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 05, 2012, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 05, 2012, 10:31:20 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2012, 09:46:26 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 05, 2012, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 05, 2012, 07:18:43 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 04, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
It's going to be tough to hate the Cardinals as much as I used to now that LaRussa & Pujols are gone.

But I'll find a way.

Talk to a Cardinals fan. That'll jumpstart your hate engine good & proper.

I hated the Cardinals back when LaRussa was in Oakland and Pujols was in his mid-50s.  I can recapture the old-fashioned pure hate that I had for them in my youth.  I know I can.

Cardinal-fan coworker to me this morning: "The Cardinals won the last game of last season and the first game of this season."

(despite the fact that the first games took place in Tokyo, but facts don't usually matter to Cardinal fans)

Use that to get your haterection up.

*smashes cubicle*

*starts laying kindling around a fresh barn*
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 15, 2012, 05:28:39 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/to6pl/so_i_found_my_5_year_old_daughter_crying_in_the/

QuoteSo, I found my 5 year old daughter crying in the bathroom last night.

My youngest daughter was sobbing and had tears running down her face last night. She had locked herself in the bathroom and was crying like her puppy had just died.

When I asked her what was wrong she said her broher told her that since we all had Cardinals shirts on and she didn't, that she would have to root for the Cubs from now on. "I hate the Cubs, I want to root for the Cardinals but ______ said I can't anymore!. I told her that she should get her Cardinals hat on and tell her brother that he doesn't run anything but his mouth.

She slept in her hat last night.

Brainwashing- Successful.

EDIT: She has plenty of Cardinals shirts. She was just wearing something else yesterday and it was just a coincidence that everyone else had one on that day.

EDIT: Her picture with Jason Mott when she was 3. Imgur (http://i.imgur.com/4u9Zp)

Down-thread...

http://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/to6pl/so_i_found_my_5_year_old_daughter_crying_in_the/c4ocqza

QuoteIn all seriousness, we had all of our Little League teams go with Minor league team jerseys this year, because one of the coaches picked the Cubs and we had 7 parents refuse to let their kids wear the uniform during games, last year.

So only the 2 coaches kids wore the Cubs uniforms during games. The rest wore white t-shirts.

Now I'm picturing a full team of 9-year-old kids playing baseball with packs of Winstons rolled in their sleeves.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 15, 2012, 06:42:44 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 15, 2012, 05:28:39 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/to6pl/so_i_found_my_5_year_old_daughter_crying_in_the/

QuoteSo, I found my 5 year old daughter crying in the bathroom last night.

My youngest daughter was sobbing and had tears running down her face last night. She had locked herself in the bathroom and was crying like her puppy had just died.

When I asked her what was wrong she said her broher told her that since we all had Cardinals shirts on and she didn't, that she would have to root for the Cubs from now on. "I hate the Cubs, I want to root for the Cardinals but ______ said I can't anymore!. I told her that she should get her Cardinals hat on and tell her brother that he doesn't run anything but his mouth.

She slept in her hat last night.

Brainwashing- Successful.

EDIT: She has plenty of Cardinals shirts. She was just wearing something else yesterday and it was just a coincidence that everyone else had one on that day.

EDIT: Her picture with Jason Mott when she was 3. Imgur (http://i.imgur.com/4u9Zp)

Down-thread...

http://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/to6pl/so_i_found_my_5_year_old_daughter_crying_in_the/c4ocqza

QuoteIn all seriousness, we had all of our Little League teams go with Minor league team jerseys this year, because one of the coaches picked the Cubs and we had 7 parents refuse to let their kids wear the uniform during games, last year.

So only the 2 coaches kids wore the Cubs uniforms during games. The rest wore white t-shirts.

Now I'm picturing a full team of 9-year-old kids playing baseball with packs of Winstons rolled in their sleeves.

Meanwhile, the next generation of Cubs fans grows up not really caring about the Cardinals.

Or the Cubs, really.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tony on May 19, 2012, 09:50:41 PM
This kept me entertained for a few minutes. (http://www.randomdudeswithmorehomerunsthanpujols.com/index.php)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 12, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
There is no God
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on October 12, 2012, 11:21:49 PM

Fuck.

What did I possibly do in a previous life?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 12, 2012, 11:24:49 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 12, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
There is no God

No, there is a God but he's an asshole.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 12, 2012, 11:39:57 PM
Notice who DIDN'T start this one.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2012, 11:41:14 PM
I guess a silver lining, such that it is, is this: fuck TLR.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 12, 2012, 11:44:13 PM
I hate baseball so goddamn much.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 13, 2012, 12:49:58 AM
Baseball is inSANE.

Think about the two NL series for a second. The Reds had a 2-0 lead going home and everyone was like, oh haha Dusty is going to fuck this up because he's Dusty. The defining moment of that series is his double steal in Game 5. Dusty fucked up. The Reds lost. Choke. Dusty. Narrative.

The Cardinals go down 6-0 on the road facing elimination and everyone's laughing but a few people are like come on guys. It's the Cardinals. They aren't going to go quiet and you know. Then they just keep chipping away and no one can throw strikes on the Nationals anymore and you see it all happening in super slow motion. Even as a third party to this horror show we all had seen this before and now it was happening to someone else. Still painful to watch.

It always happens to the Cardinals. Maybe BC was right. Maybe I've seen it too many times, too. I don't even think that's a joke anymore. That BC just knows.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: BC on October 13, 2012, 06:24:52 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2012, 12:49:58 AM
Even as a third party to this horror show we all had seen this before and now it was happening to someone else. Still painful to watch.

It always happens to the Cardinals. Maybe BC was right. Maybe I've seen it too many times, too. I don't even think that's a joke anymore. That BC just knows.

Last night was the first time I have heard that "sound" of utter silence/disbelief/whatinthehelljusthappened? in 9 years. I hate that I care so much about baseball.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 13, 2012, 08:53:24 AM
This is the worst of all possible outcomes for me.  The Giants and that other team playing to go to the World Series.  The good  news is that one of them is going to lose...The bad news (I can't even write it)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2012, 12:49:58 AM
Baseball is inSANE.

Think about the two NL series for a second. The Reds had a 2-0 lead going home and everyone was like, oh haha Dusty is going to fuck this up because he's Dusty. The defining moment of that series is his double steal in Game 5. Dusty fucked up. The Reds lost. Choke. Dusty. Narrative.

The Cardinals go down 6-0 on the road facing elimination and everyone's laughing but a few people are like come on guys. It's the Cardinals. They aren't going to go quiet and you know. Then they just keep chipping away and no one can throw strikes on the Nationals anymore and you see it all happening in super slow motion. Even as a third party to this horror show we all had seen this before and now it was happening to someone else. Still painful to watch.

It always happens to the Cardinals. Maybe BC was right. Maybe I've seen it too many times, too. I don't even think that's a joke anymore. That BC just knows.

And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2012, 12:49:58 AM
Baseball is inSANE.

Think about the two NL series for a second. The Reds had a 2-0 lead going home and everyone was like, oh haha Dusty is going to fuck this up because he's Dusty. The defining moment of that series is his double steal in Game 5. Dusty fucked up. The Reds lost. Choke. Dusty. Narrative.

The Cardinals go down 6-0 on the road facing elimination and everyone's laughing but a few people are like come on guys. It's the Cardinals. They aren't going to go quiet and you know. Then they just keep chipping away and no one can throw strikes on the Nationals anymore and you see it all happening in super slow motion. Even as a third party to this horror show we all had seen this before and now it was happening to someone else. Still painful to watch.

It always happens to the Cardinals. Maybe BC was right. Maybe I've seen it too many times, too. I don't even think that's a joke anymore. That BC just knows.

And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.

And so the Ghost of Mark Prior haunts us still.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 01:41:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.

To be fair, there's nothing to really blame him for yet.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 13, 2012, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 01:41:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.

To be fair, there's nothing to really blame him for yet.

*taps nose twice, knocks on wood*

I suppose there could always be another Don Denkinger in their future.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on October 13, 2012, 02:26:42 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 01:41:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.

To be fair, there's nothing to really blame him for yet.

*taps broken blood vesseled nose twice, knocks on wood half eaten raw potato*

I suppose there could always be another Don Denkinger in their future.

Fellow Mick'd
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 02:30:02 PM
Got a glimpse at a hard copy of today's Trib a bit ago as I went out to get some lunch.

Page 1 of the sports section is dominated by a photo of a screaming CC Sabathia. Coverage of Nats-Cards Game 5 is limited to a tiny box that says "St. Louis wins 3-2". (More coverage online!)

Do they have to put the paper to bed before the start of the WGN evening news or something?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 13, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.

I'd be so pissed if I were a Nats fan. Even if they were totally beholden to keeping Strasburg on an innings limit, it wouldn't have been that tough to work around it and leave him with 20-30 innings to pitch in the playoffs. It seemed pretty clear they were headed to the playoffs by July, so skipping a few starts or limiting some of his other outings was doable.

Basically, they took a clear and obvious loss in order to avoid a potential loss. As young and talented as the team is, there's no guarantee of when they'll make the playoffs again. And there's no guarantee that Strasburg's elbow doesn't explode anyway in his first start next year, despite shutting him down this year.

In short, I hate this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 13, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 13, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.

I'd be so pissed if I were a Nats fan. Even if they were totally beholden to keeping Strasburg on an innings limit, it wouldn't have been that tough to work around it and leave him with 20-30 innings to pitch in the playoffs. It seemed pretty clear they were headed to the playoffs by July, so skipping a few starts or limiting some of his other outings was doable.

Basically, they took a clear and obvious loss in order to avoid a potential loss. As young and talented as the team is, there's no guarantee of when they'll make the playoffs again. And there's no guarantee that Strasburg's elbow doesn't explode anyway in his first start next year, despite shutting him down this year.

In short, I hate this.

Or they could have just started his season in June, rather than April.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 13, 2012, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 13, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.

I'd be so pissed if I were a Nats fan. Even if they were totally beholden to keeping Strasburg on an innings limit, it wouldn't have been that tough to work around it and leave him with 20-30 innings to pitch in the playoffs. It seemed pretty clear they were headed to the playoffs by July, so skipping a few starts or limiting some of his other outings was doable.

Basically, they took a clear and obvious loss in order to avoid a potential loss. As young and talented as the team is, there's no guarantee of when they'll make the playoffs again. And there's no guarantee that Strasburg's elbow doesn't explode anyway in his first start next year, despite shutting him down this year.

In short, I hate this.

That's just it. They may never make the playoffs again. In the process one has to wonder if Strasburg has been so annoyed by the whole thing that he looks to leave the organization the second he gets the chance.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 03:46:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 13, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.

I'd be so pissed if I were a Nats fan. Even if they were totally beholden to keeping Strasburg on an innings limit, it wouldn't have been that tough to work around it and leave him with 20-30 innings to pitch in the playoffs. It seemed pretty clear they were headed to the playoffs by July, so skipping a few starts or limiting some of his other outings was doable.

Basically, they took a clear and obvious loss in order to avoid a potential loss. As young and talented as the team is, there's no guarantee of when they'll make the playoffs again. And there's no guarantee that Strasburg's elbow doesn't explode anyway in his first start next year, despite shutting him down this year.

In short, I hate this.

Or they could have just started his season in June, rather than April.

The problem with just skipping some starts here and there, at least as I've heard it, is that the innings limit wasn't just about the number of actual innings pitched in game action, but also about all of the other work that goes along with that. Even if he skipped some starts, he'd still have to continue his side work if his arm was going to be kept in game shape. In other words, I gather that total IP is only really a useful proxy for arm wear and tear and not the actual main concern itself.

Huey's option is more realistic. And, as has been pointed out elsewhere, it's closer to what the Braves did with Medlen, who spent the first half of the season handling light duty in middle relief.

Of course, the Braves themselves finished 4 games behind the Nats and never made past the wild card playoff. So Medlen gets to take some of those saved bullets with him into the off-season.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
And, of course, there's no guarantee that Strasburg would have single-handedly won the series for them.

I mean, they won the game started by Strasburg's rotation replacement, Detwiler, who gave them 6 innings of 3-hit pitching.

Now, I suppose Strasburg would have probably been slotted in as the Division Series Game 1 starter. Assuming the Nats won the division with him pitching fewer than 160 innings in the regular season so they wouldn't feel obliged to start him in the wild card game instead.

And a Game 1 start would have had him in line to also start Game 5 instead of Gio Gonzalez. Assuming they'd allow him to pitch on four days' rest amid the rest of their concerns about his arm, while also no doubt hoping to see him take the mound twice (if necessary) in the Championship Series.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on October 13, 2012, 04:50:57 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
And, of course, there's no guarantee that Strasburg would have single-handedly won the series for them.

I mean, they won the game started by Strasburg's rotation replacement, Detwiler, who gave them 6 innings of 3-hit pitching.

Now, I suppose Strasburg would have probably been slotted in as the Division Series Game 1 starter. Assuming the Nats won the division with him pitching fewer than 160 innings in the regular season so they wouldn't feel obliged to start him in the wild card game instead.

And a Game 1 start would have had him in line to also start Game 5 instead of Gio Gonzalez. Assuming they'd allow him to pitch on four days' rest amid the rest of their concerns about his arm, while also no doubt hoping to see him take the mound twice (if necessary) in the Championship Series.

Hey Tank?  SHUT UP.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 13, 2012, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 04:50:57 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
And, of course, there's no guarantee that Strasburg would have single-handedly won the series for them.

I mean, they won the game started by Strasburg's rotation replacement, Detwiler, who gave them 6 innings of 3-hit pitching.

Now, I suppose Strasburg would have probably been slotted in as the Division Series Game 1 starter. Assuming the Nats won the division with him pitching fewer than 160 innings in the regular season so they wouldn't feel obliged to start him in the wild card game instead.

And a Game 1 start would have had him in line to also start Game 5 instead of Gio Gonzalez. Assuming they'd allow him to pitch on four days' rest amid the rest of their concerns about his arm, while also no doubt hoping to see him take the mound twice (if necessary) in the Championship Series.

Hey Tank?  SHUT UP.

*punches CT*
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 13, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 13, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.

I'd be so pissed if I were a Nats fan. Even if they were totally beholden to keeping Strasburg on an innings limit, it wouldn't have been that tough to work around it and leave him with 20-30 innings to pitch in the playoffs. It seemed pretty clear they were headed to the playoffs by July, so skipping a few starts or limiting some of his other outings was doable.

Basically, they took a clear and obvious loss in order to avoid a potential loss. As young and talented as the team is, there's no guarantee of when they'll make the playoffs again. And there's no guarantee that Strasburg's elbow doesn't explode anyway in his first start next year, despite shutting him down this year.

In short, I hate this.

Nat fans will love it even more if he blows his elbow in spring training.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Gilgamesh on October 13, 2012, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 13, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 13, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.

I'd be so pissed if I were a Nats fan. Even if they were totally beholden to keeping Strasburg on an innings limit, it wouldn't have been that tough to work around it and leave him with 20-30 innings to pitch in the playoffs. It seemed pretty clear they were headed to the playoffs by July, so skipping a few starts or limiting some of his other outings was doable.

Basically, they took a clear and obvious loss in order to avoid a potential loss. As young and talented as the team is, there's no guarantee of when they'll make the playoffs again. And there's no guarantee that Strasburg's elbow doesn't explode anyway in his first start next year, despite shutting him down this year.

In short, I hate this.

Nat fans will love it even more if he blows his elbow in spring training.

They've seen it too many times.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 13, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 13, 2012, 08:53:24 AM
This is the worst of all possible outcomes for me.  The Giants and that other team playing to go to the World Series.  The good  news is that one of them is going to lose...The bad news (I can't even write it)

1987 was not a good year for you. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8mHqUCA2vM)

What do you like better: Whitey getting so red-assed from a bad joke Marv Albert told that he wouldn't do a pregame interview with NBC more than a year later or Joe Morgan stating with certainty that Bob Brenly was going to shut down the Cardinals' with his throwing arm?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
And, of course, there's no guarantee that Strasburg would have single-handedly won the series for them.

I don't think there are many reasonable people who are saying he would have guaranteed a win.

To me, pitchers are always injury risks. It's the nature of baseball. Strasburg was at risk of an injury last season coming back from TJS, he was an injury risk during the 160ish innings he threw this season and he'll be an injury risk during the next 2,000 (hopefully) innings he throws. To me, ever-so-slightly decreasing that risk by removing 30 innings somewhere in the middle of all that wasn't worth the obvious blow to their chances of winning a World Series this year.

Just making up a number, what are the chances Strasburg gets injured in the next five years? For the sake of my pointless exercise, let's say 10%. What did they knock that down to by punting this year? 9.9%? 9.5%?

I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8369941/history-shows-washington-nationals-shut-stephen-strasburg-too-soon) who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on October 14, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2012, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 13, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 13, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
And maybe the goddamn Nationals shouldn't have shut down Strasburg.

I'd be so pissed if I were a Nats fan. Even if they were totally beholden to keeping Strasburg on an innings limit, it wouldn't have been that tough to work around it and leave him with 20-30 innings to pitch in the playoffs. It seemed pretty clear they were headed to the playoffs by July, so skipping a few starts or limiting some of his other outings was doable.

Basically, they took a clear and obvious loss in order to avoid a potential loss. As young and talented as the team is, there's no guarantee of when they'll make the playoffs again. And there's no guarantee that Strasburg's elbow doesn't explode anyway in his first start next year, despite shutting him down this year.

In short, I hate this.

That's just it. They may never make the playoffs again. In the process one has to wonder if Strasburg has been so annoyed by the whole thing that he looks to leave the organization the second he gets the chance.

From what I've heard, Scott Boras was heavily involved in setting the limit, etc.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8369941/history-shows-washington-nationals-shut-stephen-strasburg-too-soon) who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: BH on October 15, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8369941/history-shows-washington-nationals-shut-stephen-strasburg-too-soon) who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

The planning of his shutdown was stupid. They were in first since the start of the season, why not rest him at the start of the season, or space out starts after the all star break?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 15, 2012, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: BH on October 15, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8369941/history-shows-washington-nationals-shut-stephen-strasburg-too-soon) who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.
The planning of his shutdown was stupid. They were in first since the start of the season, why not rest him at the start of the season, or space out starts after the all star break?

Cut them a little slack. They're still new at this while "winning" thing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 15, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: BH on October 15, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8369941/history-shows-washington-nationals-shut-stephen-strasburg-too-soon) who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.
The planning of his shutdown was stupid. They were in first since the start of the season, why not rest him at the start of the season, or space out starts after the all star break?

Cut them a little slack. They're still new at this while "winning" thing.

The while while?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 15, 2012, 08:58:58 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 15, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: BH on October 15, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8369941/history-shows-washington-nationals-shut-stephen-strasburg-too-soon) who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.
The planning of his shutdown was stupid. They were in first since the start of the season, why not rest him at the start of the season, or space out starts after the all star break?

Cut them a little slack. They're still new at this while "winning" thing.

The while while?

This is what happens when TIME TO POST! comes before coffee time.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8369941/history-shows-washington-nationals-shut-stephen-strasburg-too-soon) who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

He makes a strong case. I guess for me it would come down to whether it was a call made by the doctors or whether it was mostly driven by risk-averse management CYA.

Or, worse yet, Scott Boras. Speaking of which...

Quote from: Shooter on October 14, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
From what I've heard, Scott Boras was heavily involved in setting the limit, etc.

What's the evidence for this? Jordan Zimmermann isn't represented by Boras and, on a nearly identical surgery/rehab schedule a year earlier, he was given the same exact innings limit as Strasburg.

Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 15, 2012, 10:39:42 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.

Remember when the 2004 Cubs were awesome?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 15, 2012, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.

TIME TO FORK
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 15, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 10:39:42 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.

Remember when the 2004 Cubs were awesome?

That was back in around 2004.  /ObviousFork
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 15, 2012, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 15, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 10:39:42 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.

Remember when the 2004 Cubs were awesome?

That was back in around 2004.  /ObviousFork

The 2004 Cubs combined with unfunny cancer killed my mother. This was right around 2004.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on October 15, 2012, 01:20:15 PM
Unfunny cancer?  Try reading this (http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_21760399) and it will make unfunny cancer seem bearable.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 15, 2012, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: morpheus on October 15, 2012, 01:20:15 PM
Unfunny cancer?  Try reading this (http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_21760399) and it will make unfunny cancer seem bearable.

That article is the worst fucking thing that ever happened to me. I would watch my mother die again if only I could un-read it. I'm not kidding. Compared to that article, dying of cancer is like getting your balls licked.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on October 15, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8369941/history-shows-washington-nationals-shut-stephen-strasburg-too-soon) who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

He makes a strong case. I guess for me it would come down to whether it was a call made by the doctors or whether it was mostly driven by risk-averse management CYA.

Or, worse yet, Scott Boras. Speaking of which...

Quote from: Shooter on October 14, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
From what I've heard, Scott Boras was heavily involved in setting the limit, etc.

What's the evidence for this? Jordan Zimmermann isn't represented by Boras and, on a nearly identical surgery/rehab schedule a year earlier, he was given the same exact innings limit as Strasburg.

Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

I heard it on MLB Network; not sure which talking head it was.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 15, 2012, 08:30:04 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 15, 2012, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: morpheus on October 15, 2012, 01:20:15 PM
Unfunny cancer?  Try reading this (http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_21760399) and it will make unfunny cancer seem bearable.

That article is the worst fucking thing that ever happened to me. I would watch my mother die again if only I could un-read it. I'm not kidding. Compared to that article, dying of cancer is like getting your balls licked.

The article is bizarre, to say the least. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on October 16, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
Best Fans in Baseball are on Twitter (https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 17, 2012, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 16, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
Best Fans in Baseball are on Twitter (https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis).

Classy bunch.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 18, 2012, 09:37:44 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 17, 2012, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 16, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
Best Fans in Baseball are on Twitter (https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis).

Classy bunch.
At least now I know what Giants' fans have in common with Cub fans.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 18, 2012, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 18, 2012, 09:37:44 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 17, 2012, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 16, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
Best Fans in Baseball are on Twitter (https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis).

Classy bunch.
At least now I know what Giants' fans have in common with Cub fans.

We love cock?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 18, 2012, 10:55:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 18, 2012, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 18, 2012, 09:37:44 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 17, 2012, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 16, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
Best Fans in Baseball are on Twitter (https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis).

Classy bunch.
At least now I know what Giants' fans have in common with Cub fans.

We love cock?

Indeed.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Wr6RQ1OrNEQ/SUIbJlf-_SI/AAAAAAAAAC4/k688D3GkgyQ/s400/aramis+cockfight.gif)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 18, 2012, 10:17:51 PM
Fro ended his relationship with baseball because of the Cubs' failures. I might be driven to such a date by these fucking taintjuicers in St Louis
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 18, 2012, 11:58:52 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 19, 2012, 01:22:05 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 18, 2012, 11:58:52 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on October 19, 2012, 05:52:43 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2012, 01:22:05 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 18, 2012, 11:58:52 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on October 19, 2012, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on October 19, 2012, 05:52:43 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2012, 01:22:05 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 18, 2012, 11:58:52 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 19, 2012, 08:08:29 AM
Quote
Quote from: thehawk on October 19, 2012, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on October 19, 2012, 05:52:43 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2012, 01:22:05 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 18, 2012, 11:58:52 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 19, 2012, 08:29:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2012, 08:08:29 AM
Quote
Quote from: thehawk on October 19, 2012, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on October 19, 2012, 05:52:43 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2012, 01:22:05 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 18, 2012, 11:58:52 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 13, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
I blame Yeti.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?

I want everyone to be aware of Yeti's potential vindication. To know the feeling of starting a thread that works out for the greater good of Desipiots...tis nice.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 22, 2012, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?

I want everyone to be aware of Yeti's potential vindication. To know the feeling of starting a thread that works out for the greater good of Desipiots...tis nice.

Imagine how much it would hurt to see the Cubs choke away a 3-1 lead in the NLCS - the year after they win the fucking... fuck.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 22, 2012, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?

I want everyone to be aware of Yeti's potential vindication. To know the feeling of starting a thread that works out for the greater good of Desipiots...tis nice.

I'm only reminded about what a loser Yeti is and now I'm suddenly not so hopeful about tonight.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 22, 2012, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?

I want everyone to be aware of Yeti's potential vindication. To know the feeling of starting a thread that works out for the greater good of Desipiots...tis nice.

Imagine how much it would hurt to see the Cubs choke away a 3-1 lead in the NLCS - the year after they win the fucking... fuck.

Before game 5 they had AJ Pierzynski and Eric Karros in the studio and Vasgersian mentioned the few times that a team has come back from a 3-1 deficit in an LCS and said, "Eric, you've been on the losing end of such a comeback why don't you calmly tell us about your experience and try not to weep openly like a big dumb open vagina."

Somehow Karros pulled it off. He's a better man than I. Or heartless.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 22, 2012, 02:22:43 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 22, 2012, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?

I want everyone to be aware of Yeti's potential vindication. To know the feeling of starting a thread that works out for the greater good of Desipiots...tis nice.

Imagine how much it would hurt to see the Cubs choke away a 3-1 lead in the NLCS - the year after they win the fucking... fuck.

Before game 5 they had AJ Pierzynski and Eric Karros in the studio and Vasgersian mentioned the few times that a team has come back from a 3-1 deficit in an LCS and said, "Eric, you've been on the losing end of such a comeback why don't you calmly tell us about your experience and try not to weep openly like a big dumb open vagina."

Somehow Karros pulled it off. He's a better man than I. Or heartless.

Did Karros also punch Pierzynski in the face? Because it'd be hard not to if he had to sit next to him all night.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 22, 2012, 03:12:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?

I want everyone to be aware of Yeti's potential vindication. To know the feeling of starting a thread that works out for the greater good of Desipiots...tis nice.

I'm only reminded about what a loser Yeti is and now I'm suddenly not so hopeful about tonight.

It rained all night and a good part of this morning here in the Bay Area, but it is now 1:10 pm and we have had bright sunshine for the last two  plus hours. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 22, 2012, 06:26:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 22, 2012, 03:12:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?

I want everyone to be aware of Yeti's potential vindication. To know the feeling of starting a thread that works out for the greater good of Desipiots...tis nice.

I'm only reminded about what a loser Yeti is and now I'm suddenly not so hopeful about tonight.

It rained all night and a good part of this morning here in the Bay Area, but it is now 1:10 pm and we have had bright sunshine for the last two  plus hours. 

Ominous clouds are beginning to come in off the ocean.  What the hell.  You are going to watch the Bears' game anyway.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 22, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 22, 2012, 06:26:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 22, 2012, 03:12:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 22, 2012, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
?

Couldn't wait one more day, could you?

I want everyone to be aware of Yeti's potential vindication. To know the feeling of starting a thread that works out for the greater good of Desipiots...tis nice.

I'm only reminded about what a loser Yeti is and now I'm suddenly not so hopeful about tonight.

It rained all night and a good part of this morning here in the Bay Area, but it is now 1:10 pm and we have had bright sunshine for the last two  plus hours. 

Ominous clouds are beginning to come in off the ocean.  What the hell.  You are going to watch the Bears' game anyway.

True but I've yet to be disappointed every time I've checked in.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 22, 2012, 10:42:26 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 22, 2012, 10:46:49 PM
I'm not one to believe jinxes, or be superstitious, but I'll admit I was leery of making any comments or guarantees this morning......... BUT FUCK YEA. SUCK IT SAINT LOUIS. I FUCKING HATE YOU FUCKERS. DIE DIE DIE.


/#12 in '12
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 22, 2012, 10:47:14 PM
FORCING THE CARDS TO TRY A COMEBACK IN SUCH DANGEROUS CONDITIONS WAS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE BEST FANS IN BASEBALL
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 22, 2012, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 22, 2012, 10:47:14 PM
FORCING THE CARDS TO TRY A COMEBACK IN SUCH DANGEROUS CONDITIONS WAS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE BEST FANS IN BASEBALL

Fuck that. I hope Matt Holliday broke his ankle walking back to the dugout.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 22, 2012, 10:46:49 PM
I'm not one to believe jinxes, or be superstitious, but I'll admit I was leery of making any comments or guarantees this morning......... BUT FUCK YEA. SUCK IT SAINT LOUIS. I FUCKING HATE YOU FUCKERS. DIE DIE DIE.


/#12 in '12

TOUCH EM ALL YETI! YOULL NEVER START A BIGGER THREAD IN YOUR LIFE!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 23, 2012, 08:23:39 AM
Quote from: Shooter on October 16, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
Best Fans in Baseball are on Twitter (https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis).

This was unfuckingbelievable last night. Debate butthurt is a minor itch compared to this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:44:08 AM
The Cardinal fans on my Facebook were surprisingly calm. A few mentioned how the Cubs finished, but I don't care. Also, I enjoy the fact that a bunch of fans said they didn't need Pujols to win it.... Ummm, but you lost in the NLCS? Isn't that worse than you did the year before with Pujols. Suck it, fags
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 23, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 22, 2012, 10:46:49 PM
I'm not one to believe jinxes, or be superstitious, but I'll admit I was leery of making any comments or guarantees this morning......... BUT FUCK YEA. SUCK IT SAINT LOUIS. I FUCKING HATE YOU FUCKERS. DIE DIE DIE.


/#12 in '12

TOUCH EM ALL YETI! YOULL NEVER START A BIGGER THREAD IN YOUR LIFE!

*throws Yeti on his shoulders, parades around room*

Just glorious.  I think my favorite part is that they were done in by scrappy little Marco Scutaro. After watching guys like Eckstein, Skippy Shumacher, Descalso and Kozma come up big, it was very enjoyable to watch the Cardinals die by the same gritty sword.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on October 23, 2012, 08:51:41 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 23, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 22, 2012, 10:46:49 PM
I'm not one to believe jinxes, or be superstitious, but I'll admit I was leery of making any comments or guarantees this morning......... BUT FUCK YEA. SUCK IT SAINT LOUIS. I FUCKING HATE YOU FUCKERS. DIE DIE DIE.


/#12 in '12

TOUCH EM ALL YETI! YOULL NEVER START A BIGGER THREAD IN YOUR LIFE!

*throws Yeti on his shoulders, parades around room*

Just glorious.  I think my favorite part is that they were done in by scrappy little Marco Scutaro. After watching guys like Eckstein, Skippy Shumacher, Descalso and Kozma come up big, it was very enjoyable to watch the Cardinals die by the same gritty sword.

Pete fucking Kozma. It was nice to see him choke it away like the AAAA player he is.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: BH on October 23, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
It was nice to see Cain hit Holliday as well.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 23, 2012, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: BH on October 23, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
It was nice to see Cain hit Holliday as well.

Also nice to see Holliday make the last out by popping out to Scutaro.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 23, 2012, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 23, 2012, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: BH on October 23, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
It was nice to see Cain hit Holliday as well.

Also nice to see Holliday make the last out by popping out to Scutaro.

I didn't see any of it. It's nice to read about it all here though. My Tardenfreude is tempered considerably by the two championships they've won in the last seven seasons. Nothing will make this better until the Cubs win one.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 10:12:44 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 23, 2012, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 23, 2012, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: BH on October 23, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
It was nice to see Cain hit Holliday as well.

Also nice to see Holliday make the last out by popping out to Scutaro.

I didn't see any of it. It's nice to read about it all here though. My Tardenfreude is tempered considerably by the two championships they've won in the last seven seasons. Nothing will make this better until the Cubs win one.

Yep - we can laugh and enjoy this but if anyone thought, "Now they know how the Cubs felt" just stop it. Stop it now. They know how it feels to win a World Series and also how it feels to gum down a Chef Boyardee meal straight out the ice box.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 23, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 23, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
I think my favorite part is that they were done in by scrappy little Marco Scutaro.

He'd had a kind of massive June in Colorado before falling back to Earth. When he got traded away from Coors at the deadline, everyone figured the regression would be locked in for good. Instead: .362/.385/.473/.859 (145 OPS+) in 61 games for the Giants

.402/.421/.518/.939 in September and October (regular season).

.500/.533/.607/1.140 in the NLCS.

Age 36.

Señor Octubre.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 23, 2012, 10:15:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 23, 2012, 10:12:44 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 23, 2012, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 23, 2012, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: BH on October 23, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
It was nice to see Cain hit Holliday as well.

Also nice to see Holliday make the last out by popping out to Scutaro.

I didn't see any of it. It's nice to read about it all here though. My Tardenfreude is tempered considerably by the two championships they've won in the last seven seasons. Nothing will make this better until the Cubs win one.

Yep - we can laugh and enjoy this but if anyone thought, "Now they know how the Cubs felt" just stop it. Stop it now. They know how it feels to win a World Series and also how it feels to gum down a Chef Boyardee meal straight out the ice box.

An Ozark sundae?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 23, 2012, 11:32:22 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 23, 2012, 08:44:08 AM
The Cardinal fans on my Facebook were surprisingly calm. A few mentioned how the Cubs finished, but I don't care. Also, I enjoy the fact that a bunch of fans said they didn't need Pujols to win it.... Ummm, but you lost in the NLCS? Isn't that worse than you did the year before with Pujols. Suck it, fags

One announced he would kill anyone who posted "Not In the Cards" if the Cardinals lost, only to post it himself in all caps at the end of the game.  Another decided to go on offense (unlike the Cardinals) and pre-emptively attacked the Cubs for not even making the playoffs so you Cubs fans can't say nothing because Cubs suck Cubs suck Cubs suck, you Boys Town faggots.  QED.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 23, 2012, 01:43:21 PM
Stay classy shitty little Missouri river town...

http://deadspin.com/5954046/3-words-fire-mike-matheny-the-best-fans-in-baseball-are-having-a-major-meltdown
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 23, 2012, 01:55:20 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 23, 2012, 01:43:21 PM
Stay classy shitty little Missouri river town...

http://deadspin.com/5954046/3-words-fire-mike-matheny-the-best-fans-in-baseball-are-having-a-major-meltdown

So, that entire post is copped directly from that previously-linked Twitter feed (https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis)? Blogging is easy!

Also: the very first tweet (https://twitter.com/KingOfKingsJD/statuses/260574976191639552) is from an apparent Cubs fan (https://twitter.com/KingOfKingsJD).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on October 23, 2012, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: morpheus on October 23, 2012, 08:51:41 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 23, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 22, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 22, 2012, 10:46:49 PM
I'm not one to believe jinxes, or be superstitious, but I'll admit I was leery of making any comments or guarantees this morning......... BUT FUCK YEA. SUCK IT SAINT LOUIS. I FUCKING HATE YOU FUCKERS. DIE DIE DIE.


/#12 in '12

TOUCH EM ALL YETI! YOULL NEVER START A BIGGER THREAD IN YOUR LIFE!

*throws Yeti on his shoulders, parades around room*

Just glorious.  I think my favorite part is that they were done in by scrappy little Marco Scutaro. After watching guys like Eckstein, Skippy Shumacher, Descalso and Kozma come up big, it was very enjoyable to watch the Cardinals die by the same gritty sword.

Pete fucking Kozma. It was nice to see him choke it away like the AAAA player he is.

You misspelled AAA.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 10, 2013, 01:55:03 PM
This is as good of a spot:
http://deadspin.com/why-your-cardinals-suck-1443513646
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 10, 2013, 03:26:41 PM
It is interesting how the BEST FANS IN BASEBALL have managed to make Dodger fans out of the rest of us.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 11, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I hope the Dodgers sweep and that GLOREE BOY Yasiel Puig does something to offend the Best Fans in Baseball every game and/or inning.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 11, 2013, 11:30:19 PM
I hope the stadium burns to the ground.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 12, 2013, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 11, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I hope the Dodgers sweep and that GLOREE BOY Yasiel Puig does something to offend the Best Fans in Baseball every game and/or inning.

They're going to win the World Series, so we should all just start accepting that. Probably next year and the year after that, too.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 12, 2013, 09:08:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 12, 2013, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 11, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I hope the Dodgers sweep and that GLOREE BOY Yasiel Puig does something to offend the Best Fans in Baseball every game and/or inning.

They're going to win cancel the World Series, so we should all just start accepting that. Probably next year and the year after that, too.

WhatIthinkyou'llfindisactuallygoingtohappen'd.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 12, 2013, 06:56:55 PM
Fuck baseball
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 12, 2013, 11:20:32 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2013, 06:56:55 PM
Fuck baseball

Go, hockey!

(http://i.imgur.com/bRKgFfd.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 15, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 11, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I hope the Dodgers sweep and that GLOREE BOY Yasiel Puig does something to offend the Best Fans in Baseball every game and/or inning.

Well, him and those other Mouseketeers: http://deadspin.com/cardinals-complain-about-dodgers-mickey-mouse-celebr-1445526942

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 15, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 11, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I hope the Dodgers sweep and that GLOREE BOY Yasiel Puig does something to offend the Best Fans in Baseball every game and/or inning.

Well, him and those other Mouseketeers: http://deadspin.com/cardinals-complain-about-dodgers-mickey-mouse-celebr-1445526942



How does that compare to this? (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=13062871)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 15, 2013, 11:05:32 AM
Or this? (http://youtu.be/Sff0F0kH4GM?t=48s)

At least the Cardinals have a proud tradition of being professionals when the going gets tough. They'd never soil a playoff series with Mickey Mouse stuff! (http://youtu.be/QqAPmdnzxdE?t=1h38m50s)

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 15, 2013, 12:39:37 PM
Deadspin is doing God's work. (http://deadspin.com/why-dont-the-st-louis-cardinals-respect-the-game-1445679050)  Must be very upsetting to Will Leitch's psyche.

The Gawker headquarters in New York might burn if the Dodgers win the series, and it will be cleverly disguised to look like a meth lab explosion.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2013, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 15, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 11, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I hope the Dodgers sweep and that GLOREE BOY Yasiel Puig does something to offend the Best Fans in Baseball every game and/or inning.

Well, him and those other Mouseketeers: http://deadspin.com/cardinals-complain-about-dodgers-mickey-mouse-celebr-1445526942

How does that compare to this? (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=13062871)

http://deadspin.com/not-to-mention-that-the-cardinals-had-ample-opportunity-1445594871

Quote from: Alec RiderNot to mention that the Cardinals had ample opportunity to act like children over the last two games and didn't. Hey, I love a team that doesn't make itself out to look like children. It's why I'm a Cardinals fan and not a Dodgers fan apparently.

Quote from: FartknockerNo, you're a cardinals fan because you are some fat Midwestern schmo who knows nothing but some awful life in flyover hell. Go back to your trans-fat, cholesterol filled, vinyl sided shithole and shut the fuck.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 15, 2013, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2013, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 15, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 11, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I hope the Dodgers sweep and that GLOREE BOY Yasiel Puig does something to offend the Best Fans in Baseball every game and/or inning.

Well, him and those other Mouseketeers: http://deadspin.com/cardinals-complain-about-dodgers-mickey-mouse-celebr-1445526942

How does that compare to this? (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=13062871)

http://deadspin.com/not-to-mention-that-the-cardinals-had-ample-opportunity-1445594871

Quote from: Alec RiderNot to mention that the Cardinals had ample opportunity to act like children over the last two games and didn't. Hey, I love a team that doesn't make itself out to look like children. It's why I'm a Cardinals fan and not a Dodgers fan apparently.

Quote from: FartknockerNo, you're a cardinals fan because you are some fat Midwestern schmo who knows nothing but some awful life in flyover hell. Go back to your trans-fat, cholesterol filled, vinyl sided shithole and shut the fuck.

Well, the bolded is at least as insufferable as any Cardinals fan.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 15, 2013, 02:11:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2013, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 15, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 11, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I hope the Dodgers sweep and that GLOREE BOY Yasiel Puig does something to offend the Best Fans in Baseball every game and/or inning.

Well, him and those other Mouseketeers: http://deadspin.com/cardinals-complain-about-dodgers-mickey-mouse-celebr-1445526942

How does that compare to this? (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=13062871)

http://deadspin.com/not-to-mention-that-the-cardinals-had-ample-opportunity-1445594871

Quote from: Alec RiderNot to mention that the Cardinals had ample opportunity to act like children over the last two games and didn't. Hey, I love a team that doesn't make itself out to look like children. It's why I'm a Cardinals fan and not a Dodgers fan apparently.

Quote from: FartknockerNo, you're a cardinals fan because you are some fat Midwestern schmo who knows nothing but some awful life in flyover hell. Go back to your trans-fat, cholesterol filled, vinyl sided shithole and shut the fuck.

I think times are changing. There have been several takedowns of the Cardinals and their fans in the media lately from fans and pundits alike. The worm may be turning a bit. The Braves certainly sealed their fate with all that extra shit they were popping, but none of their fans really gave a shit. This looks like it's heading right toward the title of this thread. And we don't have to do anything except sit back and watch it.

A couple of things to possibly look forward to:

1. The Cards blowing this series while the Dodgers jump around with their wangs out farting in their general direction.
2. The Cards winning the series and going to face a bearded and crazed Boston team ready to do the same thing they did to the Tards in 2004.
3. The Cards winning it all with their fans showing their true colors throughout, leading the rest of the country to hate them almost as much as we do.

And maybe, just maybe... the whole PED lid blowing the fuck off and exposing years and years of abuse. I know I'm a staunch proponent of any means necessary and all that, but the shitstorm that could ensue would be orgasmic to behold.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 15, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWpGRbXCAAAS_jE.png)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 15, 2013, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWpGRbXCAAAS_jE.png)

This is so perfect I'm tempted to think it's a fake.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 15, 2013, 03:42:44 PM
Nope, that poll is legit (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls).

More hilarity (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/on-base-perception-1.3631854/jack-clark-s-lawyer-replies-to-albert-pujols-lawsuit-hilarity-ensues-1.6258369).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 15, 2013, 05:25:40 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2013, 03:42:44 PM
Nope, that poll is legit (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls).

More hilarity (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/on-base-perception-1.3631854/jack-clark-s-lawyer-replies-to-albert-pujols-lawsuit-hilarity-ensues-1.6258369).

My reaction wasn't hilarity, just "this dude is extremely pleased with himself."

(http://s404551126.initial-website.com/s/cc_images/cache_2593996804.png?t=1330547431)

Damn straight.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
#HotSportsTakes

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/78149/hotsportstakes-the-dodgers-are-a-disgrace

Stick around and Gil the comments. You won't be sorry.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on October 16, 2013, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
#HotSportsTakes

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/78149/hotsportstakes-the-dodgers-are-a-disgrace

Stick around and Gil the comments. You won't be sorry.

Is this satire? Honest question.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 16, 2013, 02:25:30 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 16, 2013, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
#HotSportsTakes

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/78149/hotsportstakes-the-dodgers-are-a-disgrace

Stick around and Gil the comments. You won't be sorry.

Is this satire? Honest question.

Is THIS satire?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 16, 2013, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 16, 2013, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
#HotSportsTakes

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/78149/hotsportstakes-the-dodgers-are-a-disgrace

Stick around and Gil the comments. You won't be sorry.

Is this satire? Honest question.

"Every now and then, we will attempt to write the worst sports column on Earth. Today: Let's talk about the MLB playoffs and the future of America's pastime."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 16, 2013, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 16, 2013, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
#HotSportsTakes

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/78149/hotsportstakes-the-dodgers-are-a-disgrace

Stick around and Gil the comments. You won't be sorry.

Is this satire? Honest question.

"Every now and then, we will attempt to write the worst sports column on Earth. Today: Let's talk about the MLB playoffs and the future of America's pastime."

Maybe they should write the entire column in green font.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on October 16, 2013, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 16, 2013, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 16, 2013, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
#HotSportsTakes

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/78149/hotsportstakes-the-dodgers-are-a-disgrace

Stick around and Gil the comments. You won't be sorry.

Is this satire? Honest question.

"Every now and then, we will attempt to write the worst sports column on Earth. Today: Let's talk about the MLB playoffs and the future of America's pastime."

Maybe they should write the entire column in green font.

That would have helped me here.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 16, 2013, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 16, 2013, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 16, 2013, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 16, 2013, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 16, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
#HotSportsTakes

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/78149/hotsportstakes-the-dodgers-are-a-disgrace

Stick around and Gil the comments. You won't be sorry.

Is this satire? Honest question.

"Every now and then, we will attempt to write the worst sports column on Earth. Today: Let's talk about the MLB playoffs and the future of America's pastime."

Maybe they should write the entire column in green font.

That would have helped me here.
He's written some gems. The Flacco Was Right to Skip His Child's Birth article was great.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 17, 2013, 08:45:31 AM
The Wall Street Journal weighs in on the code that the Cardinals are striving to uphold. (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304384104579139491813998998)

The comments have yet to be visited by any Cardinals fans, but when the BFiBBTM do see this, I look forward to the oh-so-clever plays on the columnist's surname.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 17, 2013, 09:43:31 AM
Former Cardinals catcher and senile sidekick to Joe Buck Tim McCarver will not only pontificate on the right way to play baseball, but he'll lecture Yasiel Puig fan Hunter Mahan on the right way to play golf. (http://www.pga.com/news/golf-buzz/hunter-mahan-tweet-prompts-response-tim-mccarver)

QuoteBut Mahan's tweet got McCarver – or at least McCarver's producers – thinking about a retort. What they came up with were their own suggestions for poking holes in some of golf's unwritten rules. I'm paraphrasing them, but here they are:

--Let the pros wear shorts in 110-degree weather.

--Talk anytime your opponent is hitting, and talk loudly.

--Step on your opponent's putting line.

--Drive into the foursome in front of you.

Hmm, even Joe Buck knew something was amiss.

QuoteAs McCarver's announcing partner Joe Buck noted, it's actually a written rule that PGA Tour players must wear long pants, though of course caddies have the right to wear shorts on hot days. As for the others, well, to me they're more recommendations to be rude than anything else.

Well, I don't know how the pros play golf, but in all events in which play is governed by USGA rules (I'll defer to Tonk to translate the Scottish in the R&A rulebook), the rules are in fact written down. (http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Etiquette/)

QuoteSection I – Etiquette; Behavior On The Course

QuoteConsideration For Other Players
No Disturbance Or Distraction
Players should always show consideration for other players on the course and should not disturb their play by moving, talking or making unnecessary noise.

Players should ensure that any electronic device taken onto the course does not distract other players.

On the teeing ground, a player should not tee his ball until it is his turn to play.

Players should not stand close to or directly behind the ball, or directly behind the hole, when a player is about to play.

On The Putting Green
On the putting green, players should not stand on another player's line of putt or, when he is making a stroke, cast a shadow over his line of putt.

Players should remain on or close to the putting green until all other players in the group have holed out.

QuoteSafety
Players should ensure that no one is standing close by or in a position to be hit by the club, the ball or any stones, pebbles, twigs or the like when they make a stroke or practice swing.

Players should not play until the players in front are out of range.

Players should always alert greenstaff nearby or ahead when they are about to make a stroke that might endanger them.

If a player plays a ball in a direction where there is a danger of hitting someone, he should immediately shout a warning. The traditional word of warning in such situations is "fore."
Quote
Conclusion; Penalties For Breach
If players follow the guidelines in this section, it will make the game more enjoyable for everyone.

If a player consistently disregards these guidelines during a round or over a period of time to the detriment of others, it is recommended that the Committee considers taking appropriate disciplinary action against the offending player. Such action may, for example, include prohibiting play for a limited time on the course or in a certain number of competitions. This is considered to be justifiable in terms of protecting the interests of the majority of golfers who wish to play in accordance with these guidelines.

In the case of a serious breach of etiquette, the Committee may disqualify a player under Rule 33-7.

Rule 33-7? (http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Rule-33/#33-7)

Quote33-7. Disqualification Penalty; Committee Discretion
A penalty of disqualification may in exceptional individual cases be waived, modified or imposed if the Committee considers such action warranted.

Any penalty less than disqualification must not be waived or modified.

If a Committee considers that a player is guilty of a serious breach of etiquette, it may impose a penalty of disqualification under this Rule.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 17, 2013, 09:57:41 AM
Quote from: Brownie on October 17, 2013, 09:43:31 AM
Former Cardinals catcher and senile sidekick to Joe Buck Tim McCarver will not only pontificate on the right way to play baseball, but he'll lecture Yasiel Puig fan Hunter Mahan on the right way to play golf. (http://www.pga.com/news/golf-buzz/hunter-mahan-tweet-prompts-response-tim-mccarver)

QuoteBut Mahan's tweet got McCarver – or at least McCarver's producers – thinking about a retort. What they came up with were their own suggestions for poking holes in some of golf's unwritten rules. I'm paraphrasing them, but here they are:

--Let the pros wear shorts in 110-degree weather.

--Talk anytime your opponent is hitting, and talk loudly.

--Step on your opponent's putting line.

--Drive into the foursome in front of you.

Hmm, even Joe Buck knew something was amiss.

QuoteAs McCarver's announcing partner Joe Buck noted, it's actually a written rule that PGA Tour players must wear long pants, though of course caddies have the right to wear shorts on hot days. As for the others, well, to me they're more recommendations to be rude than anything else.

Well, I don't know how the pros play golf, but in all events in which play is governed by USGA rules (I'll defer to Tonk to translate the Scottish in the R&A rulebook), the rules are in fact written down. (http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Etiquette/)

QuoteSection I – Etiquette; Behavior On The Course

QuoteConsideration For Other Players
No Disturbance Or Distraction
Players should always show consideration for other players on the course and should not disturb their play by moving, talking or making unnecessary noise.

Players should ensure that any electronic device taken onto the course does not distract other players.

On the teeing ground, a player should not tee his ball until it is his turn to play.

Players should not stand close to or directly behind the ball, or directly behind the hole, when a player is about to play.

On The Putting Green
On the putting green, players should not stand on another player's line of putt or, when he is making a stroke, cast a shadow over his line of putt.

Players should remain on or close to the putting green until all other players in the group have holed out.

QuoteSafety
Players should ensure that no one is standing close by or in a position to be hit by the club, the ball or any stones, pebbles, twigs or the like when they make a stroke or practice swing.

Players should not play until the players in front are out of range.

Players should always alert greenstaff nearby or ahead when they are about to make a stroke that might endanger them.

If a player plays a ball in a direction where there is a danger of hitting someone, he should immediately shout a warning. The traditional word of warning in such situations is "fore."
Quote
Conclusion; Penalties For Breach
If players follow the guidelines in this section, it will make the game more enjoyable for everyone.

If a player consistently disregards these guidelines during a round or over a period of time to the detriment of others, it is recommended that the Committee considers taking appropriate disciplinary action against the offending player. Such action may, for example, include prohibiting play for a limited time on the course or in a certain number of competitions. This is considered to be justifiable in terms of protecting the interests of the majority of golfers who wish to play in accordance with these guidelines.

In the case of a serious breach of etiquette, the Committee may disqualify a player under Rule 33-7.

Rule 33-7? (http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Rule-33/#33-7)

Quote33-7. Disqualification Penalty; Committee Discretion
A penalty of disqualification may in exceptional individual cases be waived, modified or imposed if the Committee considers such action warranted.

Any penalty less than disqualification must not be waived or modified.

If a Committee considers that a player is guilty of a serious breach of etiquette, it may impose a penalty of disqualification under this Rule.

DPD. I missed this during the game, but I guess FOX even had a HELPFUL graphic for McCarver to educate his viewers.

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3406805/a1.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 17, 2013, 10:07:08 AM
Quote from: Brownie on October 17, 2013, 09:57:41 AM
Quote from: Brownie on October 17, 2013, 09:43:31 AM
Former Cardinals catcher and senile sidekick to Joe Buck Tim McCarver will not only pontificate on the right way to play baseball, but he'll lecture Yasiel Puig fan Hunter Mahan on the right way to play golf. (http://www.pga.com/news/golf-buzz/hunter-mahan-tweet-prompts-response-tim-mccarver)

QuoteBut Mahan's tweet got McCarver – or at least McCarver's producers – thinking about a retort. What they came up with were their own suggestions for poking holes in some of golf's unwritten rules. I'm paraphrasing them, but here they are:

--Let the pros wear shorts in 110-degree weather.

--Talk anytime your opponent is hitting, and talk loudly.

--Step on your opponent's putting line.

--Drive into the foursome in front of you.

Hmm, even Joe Buck knew something was amiss.

QuoteAs McCarver's announcing partner Joe Buck noted, it's actually a written rule that PGA Tour players must wear long pants, though of course caddies have the right to wear shorts on hot days. As for the others, well, to me they're more recommendations to be rude than anything else.

Well, I don't know how the pros play golf, but in all events in which play is governed by USGA rules (I'll defer to Tonk to translate the Scottish in the R&A rulebook), the rules are in fact written down. (http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Etiquette/)

QuoteSection I – Etiquette; Behavior On The Course

QuoteConsideration For Other Players
No Disturbance Or Distraction
Players should always show consideration for other players on the course and should not disturb their play by moving, talking or making unnecessary noise.

Players should ensure that any electronic device taken onto the course does not distract other players.

On the teeing ground, a player should not tee his ball until it is his turn to play.

Players should not stand close to or directly behind the ball, or directly behind the hole, when a player is about to play.

On The Putting Green
On the putting green, players should not stand on another player's line of putt or, when he is making a stroke, cast a shadow over his line of putt.

Players should remain on or close to the putting green until all other players in the group have holed out.

QuoteSafety
Players should ensure that no one is standing close by or in a position to be hit by the club, the ball or any stones, pebbles, twigs or the like when they make a stroke or practice swing.

Players should not play until the players in front are out of range.

Players should always alert greenstaff nearby or ahead when they are about to make a stroke that might endanger them.

If a player plays a ball in a direction where there is a danger of hitting someone, he should immediately shout a warning. The traditional word of warning in such situations is "fore."
Quote
Conclusion; Penalties For Breach
If players follow the guidelines in this section, it will make the game more enjoyable for everyone.

If a player consistently disregards these guidelines during a round or over a period of time to the detriment of others, it is recommended that the Committee considers taking appropriate disciplinary action against the offending player. Such action may, for example, include prohibiting play for a limited time on the course or in a certain number of competitions. This is considered to be justifiable in terms of protecting the interests of the majority of golfers who wish to play in accordance with these guidelines.

In the case of a serious breach of etiquette, the Committee may disqualify a player under Rule 33-7.

Rule 33-7? (http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Rule-33/#33-7)

Quote33-7. Disqualification Penalty; Committee Discretion
A penalty of disqualification may in exceptional individual cases be waived, modified or imposed if the Committee considers such action warranted.

Any penalty less than disqualification must not be waived or modified.

If a Committee considers that a player is guilty of a serious breach of etiquette, it may impose a penalty of disqualification under this Rule.

DPD. I missed this during the game, but I guess FOX even had a HELPFUL graphic for McCarver to educate his viewers.

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3406805/a1.jpg)

I saw it. He stammered and screwed it up a few times, dragging it out even longer and making it even more lame. Buck was noticeably embarrassed, which was my favorite part. It was only afterward that I realized he was taking shots at Puig. He botched it so bad I'd forgotten the set-up, reading a Tweet by Mahan telling the Cardinals to quit whining and get the guy out.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 17, 2013, 10:11:29 AM
DPD

I really enjoyed seeing Adrian Gonzalez make the "Micky Mouse" ears after the first of his two EMOTIONAL dong blasts yesterday. And then in the on-field postgame interview he told the reporter that he remembered the Cardinals blowing a 3-1 series lead last year and he "wanted to make that happen again."

He is now my second favorite player in all of baseball. After Puig.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Gilgamesh on October 17, 2013, 10:13:33 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 17, 2013, 10:11:29 AM
DPD

I also enjoyed seeing Adrian Gonzalez make the "Micky Mouse" ears after the first of his two EMOTIONAL dong blasts yesterday. And then in the on-field postgame interview he told the report that he remembered the Cardinals blowing a 3-1 series lead last year and he "wanted to make that happen again."

He is now my second favorite player in all of baseball. After Puig.

I so very much like the term "dong blasts."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 17, 2013, 11:51:37 AM
Back to golf and McCarver. I didn't know he hated AMERICA like that. (http://youtu.be/tAbtFqisT4w?t=1m8s)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on October 18, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
I can't link to it, but there's an column that ran on the Trib Opinion page today declaring St. Louis Cardinals' fans to be the most insufferable in baseball.

It's not really worth reading (the best parts are directly quoted from Drew Magary's piece on Deadspin) but it speaks to the sad state of news gathering that Chicago's biggest daily newspaper has only figured this out now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 18, 2013, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 18, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
I can't link to it, but there's an column that ran on the Trib Opinion page today declaring St. Louis Cardinals' fans to be the most insufferable in baseball.

It's not really worth reading (the best parts are directly quoted from Drew Magary's piece on Deadspin) but it speaks to the sad state of news gathering that Chicago's biggest daily newspaper has only figured this out now.

Who wrote it? If the best a columnist for the Trib can do is quote Deadspin, maybe it's time to find a new line of work.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 18, 2013, 11:53:32 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 18, 2013, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 18, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
I can't link to it, but there's an column that ran on the Trib Opinion page today declaring St. Louis Cardinals' fans to be the most insufferable in baseball.

It's not really worth reading (the best parts are directly quoted from Drew Magary's piece on Deadspin) but it speaks to the sad state of news gathering that Chicago's biggest daily newspaper has only figured this out now.

Who wrote it? If the best a columnist for the Trib can do is quote Deadspin, maybe it's time to find a new line of work.

Fortunately, it was a guest op-ed, so said gentleman has already done that.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2013, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 18, 2013, 11:53:32 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 18, 2013, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 18, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
I can't link to it, but there's an column that ran on the Trib Opinion page today declaring St. Louis Cardinals' fans to be the most insufferable in baseball.

It's not really worth reading (the best parts are directly quoted from Drew Magary's piece on Deadspin) but it speaks to the sad state of news gathering that Chicago's biggest daily newspaper has only figured this out now.

Who wrote it? If the best a columnist for the Trib can do is quote Deadspin, maybe it's time to find a new line of work.

Fortunately, it was a guest op-ed, so said gentleman has already done that.

This link should thwart the Trib's pay quarantine. (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.chicagotribune.com/site/ct-perspec-1018-fans-20131018,0,6362471.story)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2013, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2013, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 18, 2013, 11:53:32 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 18, 2013, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 18, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
I can't link to it, but there's an column that ran on the Trib Opinion page today declaring St. Louis Cardinals' fans to be the most insufferable in baseball.

It's not really worth reading (the best parts are directly quoted from Drew Magary's piece on Deadspin) but it speaks to the sad state of news gathering that Chicago's biggest daily newspaper has only figured this out now.

Who wrote it? If the best a columnist for the Trib can do is quote Deadspin, maybe it's time to find a new line of work.

Fortunately, it was a guest op-ed, so said gentleman has already done that.

This link should thwart the Trib's pay quarantine. (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.chicagotribune.com/site/ct-perspec-1018-fans-20131018,0,6362471.story)

DPD.

QuoteBloomberg View

Jonathan Mahler is a Bloomberg View columnist.

Well, there you go, then...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-16/the-most-insufferable-fans-in-sports-live-in-st-louis.html
https://twitter.com/jonathanmahler

QuoteAuthor (The Bronx Is Burning, The Challenge, Death Comes to Happy Valley); New York Times Magazine writer; Bloomberg View and Deadspin sports columnist.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 18, 2013, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2013, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 18, 2013, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 18, 2013, 11:53:32 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 18, 2013, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 18, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
I can't link to it, but there's an column that ran on the Trib Opinion page today declaring St. Louis Cardinals' fans to be the most insufferable in baseball.

It's not really worth reading (the best parts are directly quoted from Drew Magary's piece on Deadspin) but it speaks to the sad state of news gathering that Chicago's biggest daily newspaper has only figured this out now.

Who wrote it? If the best a columnist for the Trib can do is quote Deadspin, maybe it's time to find a new line of work.

Fortunately, it was a guest op-ed, so said gentleman has already done that.

This link should thwart the Trib's pay quarantine. (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.chicagotribune.com/site/ct-perspec-1018-fans-20131018,0,6362471.story)

DPD.

QuoteBloomberg View

Jonathan Mahler is a Bloomberg View columnist.

Well, there you go, then...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-16/the-most-insufferable-fans-in-sports-live-in-st-louis.html
https://twitter.com/jonathanmahler

QuoteAuthor (The Bronx Is Burning, The Challenge, Death Comes to Happy Valley); New York Times Magazine writer; Bloomberg View and Deadspin sports columnist.

Not exactly a lightweight.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 18, 2013, 09:22:04 PM
There is no God. If for some reason there is one, he is an asshole and should die (if it were possible)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 18, 2013, 10:28:27 PM
Why can you never find a suitcase nuke when you really need one?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 18, 2013, 11:25:02 PM
Well, that went swimmingly. Thanks, Dodgers!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 19, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
I'm glad that everything is right in the world and the evil Dodgers with their billions of dollars and fun loving players were thwarted by God's Great Ball Club.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 19, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 19, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
I'm glad that everything is right in the world and the evil Dodgers with their billions of dollars and fun loving players were thwarted by God's Great Ball Club.

Just remember: the Dodgers never got it, breaking unwritten rules as far back as 1947. Fortunately, the Cardinals were there to protest that breach, too.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 19, 2013, 01:56:08 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 19, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 19, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
I'm glad that everything is right in the world and the evil Dodgers with their billions of dollars and fun loving players were thwarted by God's Great Ball Club.

Just remember: the Dodgers never got it, breaking unwritten rules as far back as 1947. Fortunately, the Cardinals were there to protest that breach, too.

Look, there's a white way to play the game and a wrong way.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 19, 2013, 02:53:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 19, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 19, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
I'm glad that everything is right in the world and the evil Dodgers with their billions of dollars and fun loving players were thwarted by God's Great Ball Club.

Just remember: the Dodgers never got it, breaking unwritten rules as far back as 1947. Fortunately, the Cardinals were there to protest that breach, too.

RT.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 19, 2013, 03:37:12 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 19, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
I'm glad that everything is right in the world and the evil Dodgers with their billions of dollars and fun loving players were thwarted by God's Great Ball Club.

...and the GREATEST FANS IN BASEBALL.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 19, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 19, 2013, 02:53:45 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 19, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 19, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
I'm glad that everything is right in the world and the evil Dodgers with their billions of dollars and fun loving players were thwarted by God's Great Ball Club.

Just remember: the Dodgers never got it, breaking unwritten rules as far back as 1947. Fortunately, the Cardinals were there to protest that breach, too.

RT.

I admit it...

...I looked for the retweet button.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 19, 2013, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 19, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 19, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
I'm glad that everything is right in the world and the evil Dodgers with their billions of dollars and fun loving players were thwarted by God's Great Ball Club.

Just remember: the Dodgers never got it, breaking unwritten rules as far back as 1947. Fortunately, the Cardinals were there to protest that breach, too.

If I was 13, I'd want to dry hump this post until it couldn't see straight. 30 year old me will just raise a glass and wish I was as witty as TJMF Brown.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 20, 2013, 12:50:40 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Snipers.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 08:17:52 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 12:50:40 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Snipers.

A sudden, completely unpredictable, very, very deep sinkhole, probably about two hundred yards across, centred around long/lat 38.622638,-90.192801.  On Saturday night, at about 1940.  Say.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 21, 2013, 05:18:18 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.

Both fanbases strike me as generally insufferable, but St. Louis takes the cake with the whole self-congratulatory BFIBB bullshit.  I know it should be beneath me to pay any mind to such an inferior midwestern locale--if anything, they should be pitied since it's been all downhill since they hosted the 1904 Olympics-- but I'm a small man  A small, petty man.  Fuck St. Louis.  Go chowderheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 21, 2013, 07:46:38 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 21, 2013, 05:18:18 AM
but I'm a small man 

That's NOT what she said
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 21, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.
One of my law partners has a picture of Ted williams in his office.  I have one of Hank Sauer, and another with Andy Pafko, Bill Nicolson and Peanuts Lowery, in my office.  So who am I to talk?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 21, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 21, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.
One of my law partners has a picture of Ted williams in his office.  I have one of Hank Sauer, and another with Andy Pafko, Bill Nicolson and Peanuts Lowery, in my office.  So who am I to talk?

I don't have an office yet, but if and when I do, it's gonna be wall-to-wall DeRosa, Theriot, Campana, Kerry Wood, and all the other gritty non-GLOREE BOYS that a way everyone knows I luh ma KUBBEEZ.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 21, 2013, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 21, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 21, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.
One of my law partners has a picture of Ted williams in his office.  I have one of Hank Sauer, and another with Andy Pafko, Bill Nicolson and Peanuts Lowery, in my office.  So who am I to talk?

I don't have an office yet, but if and when I do, it's gonna be wall-to-wall DeRosa, Theriot, Campana, Kerry Wood, and all the other gritty non-GLOREE BOYS that a way everyone knows I luh ma KUBBEEZ.

If you don't have an office, why do you care if you smell like Busch Stadium bleachers?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 21, 2013, 10:53:18 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 21, 2013, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 21, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 21, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.
One of my law partners has a picture of Ted williams in his office.  I have one of Hank Sauer, and another with Andy Pafko, Bill Nicolson and Peanuts Lowery, in my office.  So who am I to talk?

I don't have an office yet, but if and when I do, it's gonna be wall-to-wall DeRosa, Theriot, Campana, Kerry Wood, and all the other gritty non-GLOREE BOYS that a way everyone knows I luh ma KUBBEEZ.

If you don't have an office, why do you care if you smell like Busch Stadium bleachers?

Because I go to school and there are wimminfolk around.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Gilgamesh on October 21, 2013, 11:48:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 21, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 21, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.
One of my law partners has a picture of Ted williams in his office.  I have one of Hank Sauer, and another with Andy Pafko, Bill Nicolson and Peanuts Lowery, in my office.  So who am I to talk?

I don't have an office yet, but if and when I do, it's gonna be wall-to-wall DeRosa, Theriot, Campana, Kerry Wood, and all the other gritty non-GLOREE BOYS that a way everyone knows I luh ma KUBBEEZ.

I have an enduring and perpetual shrine to Todd Walker in my office.  It's conveniently placed near the thermostat.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 21, 2013, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 21, 2013, 11:48:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 21, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 21, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.
One of my law partners has a picture of Ted williams in his office.  I have one of Hank Sauer, and another with Andy Pafko, Bill Nicolson and Peanuts Lowery, in my office.  So who am I to talk?

I don't have an office yet, but if and when I do, it's gonna be wall-to-wall DeRosa, Theriot, Campana, Kerry Wood, and all the other gritty non-GLOREE BOYS that a way everyone knows I luh ma KUBBEEZ.

I have an enduring and perpetual shrine to Todd Walker in my office.  It's conveniently placed near the thermostat.

Good call, Walker is a must.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 21, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 21, 2013, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 21, 2013, 11:48:49 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 21, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 21, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 20, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 20, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
What's the best-case scenario for the upcoming World Series of Insufferability, besides a disaster destroying both teams and their awful fans? Who should I be rooting for here.

Still the Red Sox.

Yeah, this.  Apart from the Cubs (ha ha), I'd like to see Oakland, Baltimore or KC take home the World Series.  If it's not going to be one of them, though, then as long as it's not the Tards or the White Sox who win it all, I can simply ignore the winner and I'm happy enough.

I know about 5 decent Red Sox fans, so that eases the irritation. The remaining 50 or so Red Sox fans I know can fuck off, though.
One of my law partners has a picture of Ted williams in his office.  I have one of Hank Sauer, and another with Andy Pafko, Bill Nicolson and Peanuts Lowery, in my office.  So who am I to talk?

I don't have an office yet, but if and when I do, it's gonna be wall-to-wall DeRosa, Theriot, Campana, Kerry Wood, and all the other gritty non-GLOREE BOYS that a way everyone knows I luh ma KUBBEEZ.

I have an enduring and perpetual shrine to Todd Walker in my office.  It's conveniently placed near the thermostat.

Good call, Walker is a must.

If I ever visit you at work, be sure to stick it in a drawer for both our sakes.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 23, 2013, 12:07:07 PM
Christ, this is so repulsive I had to turn it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev3Y4wrDy_Q
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 23, 2013, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Bort on October 23, 2013, 12:07:07 PM
Christ, this is so repulsive I had to turn it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev3Y4wrDy_Q

You leave that song alone, Cardinals fans.  Go back to your country hits or Nickelback or Creed or whatever.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Internet Apex on October 28, 2013, 09:33:07 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

"Why would they be holding 'em on? I don't get it. Heh heh... BLARGHHHH!!111!!!!!"
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 28, 2013, 09:58:16 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2013, 09:33:07 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

"Why would they be holding 'em on? I don't get it. Heh heh... BLARGHHHH!!111!!!!!"

You can also hear McCarver go "Oh no" (or "Oh my", I've had a drink since I listened to it) afterwards.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 28, 2013, 10:28:44 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 28, 2013, 09:58:16 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2013, 09:33:07 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

"Why would they be holding 'em on? I don't get it. Heh heh... BLARGHHHH!!111!!!!!"

You can also hear McCarver go "Oh no" (or "Oh my", I've had a drink since I listened to it) afterwards.

Only 3 games or +/- 27 innings for McCarver.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 28, 2013, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.

If they were shelling out any kind of decent money for that ad, they'd get someone who's been a thing more recently than 1994.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 28, 2013, 10:47:41 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

Finally, the Cardinals show everyone how to run the bases THE RIGHT WAY. Ronny Cedeno and Ryan Theriot were way ahead of their time.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.

If they were shelling out any kind of decent money for that ad, they'd get someone who's been a thing more recently than 1994.

You clearly weren't paying attention at all.  He is a business owner, and a spokesperson; he is a leader, a doer, and a multi-tasker; he is Bo Jackson.  That's lots of "things" that he is.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 28, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.

I'm no PenFoe, but I'm pretty sure that's not how TV commercial actors get paid.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 28, 2013, 11:35:15 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 28, 2013, 10:47:41 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

Finally, the Cardinals show everyone how to run the bases THE RIGHT WAY. Ronny Cedeno and Ryan Theriot were way ahead of their time.

Why didn't baseball's best fans applaud Uehara for such a good move to first base?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 28, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 28, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.

I'm no PenFoe, but I'm pretty sure that's not how TV commercial actors get paid.

(http://i.imgur.com/oNyBWUN.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on October 28, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 28, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.

I'm no PenFoe, but I'm pretty sure that's not how TV commercial actors get paid.

CD IS RIGHT!

Talent buyouts are generally for 1-year at a time, based on the medium. 

Essentially, you'd pay Bo $x for 1-year of talent usage to run this spot on TV and then an incremental amount to run it online.   If it's running nationally, the amount increases (versus spot markets) but that's based on the reach versus the frequency. So, the total amount of times it runs doesn't impact the usage fees. 

The pay-per-use model is more for talent in syndicated programs (this is where you see actors getting checks when shows get picked up in re-runs.) 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 28, 2013, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 28, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 28, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.

I'm no PenFoe, but I'm pretty sure that's not how TV commercial actors get paid.

CD IS RIGHT!

Talent buyouts are generally for 1-year at a time, based on the medium.  

Essentially, you'd pay Bo $x for 1-year of talent usage to run this spot on TV and then an incremental amount to run it online.   If it's running nationally, the amount increases (versus spot markets) but that's based on the reach versus the frequency. So, the total amount of times it runs doesn't impact the usage fees.  

The pay-per-use model is more for talent in syndicated programs (this is where you see actors getting checks when shows get picked up in re-runs.)  

While we're being serious, I'd like to mention that it could be different in Sudan, or Malaysia, or wherever Tonker lives.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 28, 2013, 12:09:57 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 28, 2013, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 28, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 28, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.

I'm no PenFoe, but I'm pretty sure that's not how TV commercial actors get paid.

CD IS RIGHT!

Talent buyouts are generally for 1-year at a time, based on the medium.  

Essentially, you'd pay Bo $x for 1-year of talent usage to run this spot on TV and then an incremental amount to run it online.   If it's running nationally, the amount increases (versus spot markets) but that's based on the reach versus the frequency. So, the total amount of times it runs doesn't impact the usage fees.  

The pay-per-use model is more for talent in syndicated programs (this is where you see actors getting checks when shows get picked up in re-runs.)  

While we're being serious, I'd like to mention that it could be different in Sudan, or Malaysia, or wherever Tonker lives.

Yeah, but what's important is where Bo lives. And if Bo lived in Sudan, we wouldn't have had a bunch of Chaco-clad hippies screaming about Darfur for a few years because Bo would have handled biz.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 28, 2013, 12:26:51 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 28, 2013, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 28, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 28, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
This (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?topic_id=11493214&content_id=31189779) is my new favourite thing ever, especially the commentary from KMOX St Louis in the last version.  Rookie mistake, indeed.

My favorite part is the ad at the beginning, Bo Jackson for 5-Hour Energy. If that's what he's doing now, I'm guessing he'd at least read a CRACK BACK script.

You're joking, right?  If he even gets two cents for every time they show that video, he's absolutely fucking raking it in.  I must have seen it, oh, easily five hundred times this season - so often that I can quote the whole thing verbatim, and I don't even watch that much baseball these days.

I'm no PenFoe, but I'm pretty sure that's not how TV commercial actors get paid.

CD IS RIGHT!

Talent buyouts are generally for 1-year at a time, based on the medium.  

Essentially, you'd pay Bo $x for 1-year of talent usage to run this spot on TV and then an incremental amount to run it online.   If it's running nationally, the amount increases (versus spot markets) but that's based on the reach versus the frequency. So, the total amount of times it runs doesn't impact the usage fees.  

The pay-per-use model is more for talent in syndicated programs (this is where you see actors getting checks when shows get picked up in re-runs.)  

While we're being serious, I'd like to mention that it could be different in Sudan, or Malaysia, or wherever Tonker lives.

We all know where Tonker lives. Arizona will play Mickey Mouse's team there next March. (http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=BASEBALL14)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Richard Chuggar on October 28, 2013, 05:15:46 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/googles-st-louis-cardinals-search-result-2013-10
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 30, 2013, 10:25:38 PM
What a sorry bunch of losers!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 30, 2013, 10:32:32 PM
Well, at least all those meth cooks still have the Rams to root for.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2013, 10:39:13 PM
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 31, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
I'd probably be laughing more if the Cardinals weren't going to win like five more World Series before the Cubs even make the playoffs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 31, 2013, 08:30:54 AM
Who won?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 31, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 31, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
I'd probably be laughing more if the Cardinals weren't going to win like five more World Series before the Cubs even make the playoffs.

Hey Sadsack Eli, we need to focus on the positives: they're somewhat sad now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 31, 2013, 08:43:59 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 31, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 31, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
I'd probably be laughing more if the Cardinals weren't going to win like five more World Series before the Cubs even make the playoffs.

Hey Sadsack Eli, we need to focus on the positives: they're somewhat sad now.

I said laughing more. I never said I wasn't laughing at them.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse/url].
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 31, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
Butthurt achieved (http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/october/st-louis-weatherman-is-frustrated-by-the-cardinal-way-of-losing.html).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse/url].
Post by: Yeti on October 31, 2013, 10:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 31, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
Butthurt achieved (http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/october/st-louis-weatherman-is-frustrated-by-the-cardinal-way-of-losing.html).

*looks at the Subject line*

Jesus, ForkPank
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse.
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 31, 2013, 11:05:00 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 31, 2013, 10:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 31, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
Butthurt achieved (http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/october/st-louis-weatherman-is-frustrated-by-the-cardinal-way-of-losing.html).

*looks at the Subject line*

Jesus, ForkPank

Sorry, but you put the 12-year-old Internet tutor I was using into therapy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 31, 2013, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 31, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
I'd probably be laughing more if the Cardinals weren't going to win like five more World Series before the Cubs even make the playoffs.

That's exactly why I'm enjoying this one so much now.  Carpe diem.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on July 16, 2014, 06:38:24 AM
Cardinals last night: 1.1 IP, 5ER, L, 33.75 ERA.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 31, 2013, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 31, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
I'd probably be laughing more if the Cardinals weren't going to win like five more World Series before the Cubs even make the playoffs.

That's exactly why I'm enjoying this one so much now.  Carpe diem.

You know what when Eli made that comment it seemed true. Now it does not seem true.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on July 16, 2014, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 31, 2013, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 31, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
I'd probably be laughing more if the Cardinals weren't going to win like five more World Series before the Cubs even make the playoffs.

That's exactly why I'm enjoying this one so much now.  Carpe diem.

You know what when Eli made that comment it seemed true. Now it does not seem true.

I actually kind of saw that, too, and stored it to memory bank whenever the Cubes are celebrating their 2016 WS title. PUNDITTRACKING
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 16, 2014, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 31, 2013, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 31, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
I'd probably be laughing more if the Cardinals weren't going to win like five more World Series before the Cubs even make the playoffs.

That's exactly why I'm enjoying this one so much now.  Carpe diem.

You know what when Eli made that comment it seemed true. Now it does not seem true.

I actually kind of saw that, too, and stored it to memory bank whenever the Cubes are celebrating their 2016 WS title. PUNDITTRACKING

I was thinking about it this morning - the Cubs should be pretty good in 2016 based on the prospects arriving and the relative strength in finding helpful players on a bargain shown by Jed and crew. But just as the cardinals should probably have run away with the division this year, injuries are the x-factor.

So I expect the Cubs to appear to be competitive and then everyone will get hurt.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 16, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 16, 2014, 06:38:24 AM
Cardinals last night: 1.1 IP, 5ER, L, 33.75 ERA.

I loved it.  That's what he gets for not starting Kershaw (1 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 1 SO, btw).

Via the amazing @BestFansStLouis (http://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis), we learn that Clayton Kershaw is not a #winner and that this is all Jonathan Lucroy's fault:

Quote from: @ChaseTrippEveryone says Adam Wainright (sic) shouldn't have started but how many World Series rings does kershaw (sic) have? #waino #Respect @Cardinals

Quote from: @STLCardsWireIf Yadi was catching Waino I bet this inning is 1-2-3. Another part of Jonathan Lucroy's sabotage

Quote from: @Gadams81I think waino does a lot better if yadi is catching the game

Quote from: @haileysaysIf Yadi was healthy and the battery was him and Waino with Matheny managing, those three runs wouldn't have happened. I'm sure of it.

Quote from: @dylekuganI blame having shitty-not-Yadi catchers as to why Waino and Neshek didn't do too well tonight

Quote from: @BWhite_3Plot twist: lucroy is giving wainwright shitty pitches on purpose and tipping the hitters.

Quote from: @TheDanielGerthLucroy was tipping pitches to hitters. It was his fault not Wainos

Quote from: @shellbymaaecould you imagine how immaculate Waino woulda been if Yadi was catching him? ahhhh.

IMMACULATE!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 16, 2014, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 16, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 16, 2014, 06:38:24 AM
Cardinals last night: 1.1 IP, 5ER, L, 33.75 ERA.

I loved it.  That's what he gets for not starting Kershaw (1 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 1 SO, btw).

Via the amazing @BestFansStLouis (http://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis), we learn that Clayton Kershaw is not a #winner and that this is all Jonathan Lucroy's fault:

Quote from: @ChaseTrippEveryone says Adam Wainright (sic) shouldn't have started but how many World Series rings does kershaw (sic) have? #waino #Respect @Cardinals

Quote from: @STLCardsWireIf Yadi was catching Waino I bet this inning is 1-2-3. Another part of Jonathan Lucroy's sabotage

Quote from: @Gadams81I think waino does a lot better if yadi is catching the game

Quote from: @haileysaysIf Yadi was healthy and the battery was him and Waino with Matheny managing, those three runs wouldn't have happened. I'm sure of it.

Quote from: @dylekuganI blame having shitty-not-Yadi catchers as to why Waino and Neshek didn't do too well tonight

Quote from: @BWhite_3Plot twist: lucroy is giving wainwright shitty pitches on purpose and tipping the hitters.

Quote from: @TheDanielGerthLucroy was tipping pitches to hitters. It was his fault not Wainos

Quote from: @shellbymaaecould you imagine how immaculate Waino woulda been if Yadi was catching him? ahhhh.

IMMACULATE!

Jebus.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on July 16, 2014, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 16, 2014, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 16, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 16, 2014, 06:38:24 AM
Cardinals last night: 1.1 IP, 5ER, L, 33.75 ERA.

I loved it.  That's what he gets for not starting Kershaw (1 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 1 SO, btw).

Via the amazing @BestFansStLouis (http://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis), we learn that Clayton Kershaw is not a #winner and that this is all Jonathan Lucroy's fault:

Quote from: @ChaseTrippEveryone says Adam Wainright (sic) shouldn't have started but how many World Series rings does kershaw (sic) have? #waino #Respect @Cardinals

Quote from: @STLCardsWireIf Yadi was catching Waino I bet this inning is 1-2-3. Another part of Jonathan Lucroy's sabotage

Quote from: @Gadams81I think waino does a lot better if yadi is catching the game

Quote from: @haileysaysIf Yadi was healthy and the battery was him and Waino with Matheny managing, those three runs wouldn't have happened. I'm sure of it.

Quote from: @dylekuganI blame having shitty-not-Yadi catchers as to why Waino and Neshek didn't do too well tonight

Quote from: @BWhite_3Plot twist: lucroy is giving wainwright shitty pitches on purpose and tipping the hitters.

Quote from: @TheDanielGerthLucroy was tipping pitches to hitters. It was his fault not Wainos

Quote from: @shellbymaaecould you imagine how immaculate Waino woulda been if Yadi was catching him? ahhhh.

IMMACULATE!

Jebus.

These fucking people...
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 16, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
Revolting. But just imagine how awful our fans are going to be when the Cubs get good. I hope everybody who claims they're going to quit watching this team for good during the rebuild is completely serious.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 16, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
Revolting. But just imagine how awful our fans are going to be when the Cubs get good. I hope everybody who claims they're going to quit watching this team for good during the rebuild is completely serious.

I said when Theo was hired I can't wait until people hate the cubs because their fans are arrogant as hell instead of because they're a mickey mouse organization full of buffoons and losers.

I look forward to it.

There's a big difference though right? Like the Red Sox got wealthy and excellent and their fans still tried that whole we're the shining beacon of light to the Evil Empire's Endless Overflowing Coffers bullshit and everyone saw through it and finally realized holy shit these people are from BOSTON we should have hated them forever.

St Louis is good but also their fans think there's some kind of purity in the way the org does everything top down and it's disgusting.

Cubs fans don't think the org is great and they don't think they're better than other fans, that I know of.

It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 16, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 16, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
Revolting. But just imagine how awful our fans are going to be when the Cubs get good. I hope everybody who claims they're going to quit watching this team for good during the rebuild is completely serious.

I said when Theo was hired I can't wait until people hate the cubs because their fans are arrogant as hell instead of because they're a mickey mouse organization full of buffoons and losers.

I look forward to it.

There's a big difference though right? Like the Red Sox got wealthy and excellent and their fans still tried that whole we're the shining beacon of light to the Evil Empire's Endless Overflowing Coffers bullshit and everyone saw through it and finally realized holy shit these people are from BOSTON we should have hated them forever.

St Louis is good but also their fans think there's some kind of purity in the way the org does everything top down and it's disgusting.

Cubs fans don't think the org is great and they don't think they're better than other fans, that I know of.

It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

If the Blackhawks are any indication, we'll still have a terrifying inferiority complex and constantly doubt and question and bitch about everything.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 16, 2014, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 16, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
Revolting. But just imagine how awful our fans are going to be when the Cubs get good. I hope everybody who claims they're going to quit watching this team for good during the rebuild is completely serious.

I said when Theo was hired I can't wait until people hate the cubs because their fans are arrogant as hell instead of because they're a mickey mouse organization full of buffoons and losers.

I look forward to it.

There's a big difference though right? Like the Red Sox got wealthy and excellent and their fans still tried that whole we're the shining beacon of light to the Evil Empire's Endless Overflowing Coffers bullshit and everyone saw through it and finally realized holy shit these people are from BOSTON we should have hated them forever.

St Louis is good but also their fans think there's some kind of purity in the way the org does everything top down and it's disgusting.

Cubs fans don't think the org is great and they don't think they're better than other fans, that I know of.

It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

Our hallmark will be not knowing how baseball works but talking about it incessantly like we're entitled to have our opinions heard because we suffered for sooooo long and now fuck you.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

SNL will do skits with DA SUPERFANS beating the shit out of wimpy Cubs fans not knowing what to do with their elf loathing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

SNL will do skits with DA SUPERFANS beating the shit out of wimpy Cubs fans not knowing what to do with their elf loathing.

And if there's one thing true Cubs fans hate, it's fucking elves.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 16, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

SNL will do skits with DA SUPERFANS beating the shit out of wimpy Cubs fans not knowing what to do with their elf loathing.

And if there's one thing true Cubs fans hate, it's fucking elves.

The elves accent the challenge
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
I expect we'll become insufferable by talking about how we deserved this for all our suffering over the years. And all the Huards will call anyone who doesn't remember the entire 1981 starting lineup bandwagon jumpers.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 16, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

SNL will do skits with DA SUPERFANS beating the shit out of wimpy Cubs fans not knowing what to do with their elf loathing.

And if there's one thing true Cubs fans hate, it's fucking elves.

The elves accent the challenge

Elf Loathing would be a killer band name
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 04:12:16 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
I expect we'll become insufferable by talking about how we deserved this for all our suffering over the years. And all the Huards will call anyone who doesn't remember the entire 1981 starting lineup bandwagon jumpers.

All these corporate types and hot girls and oblivious bros at Wrigley are ruining the experience for everyone!

Yes, I remember 2003-2009ish as well.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 16, 2014, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 16, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
Revolting. But just imagine how awful our fans are going to be when the Cubs get good. I hope everybody who claims they're going to quit watching this team for good during the rebuild is completely serious.

That's as likely as Alvin steadfastly saying he never liked The Plan as the Cubs finally win the whole fucking think.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on July 16, 2014, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 16, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

SNL will do skits with DA SUPERFANS beating the shit out of wimpy Cubs fans not knowing what to do with their elf loathing.

And if there's one thing true Cubs fans hate, it's fucking elves.

The elves accent the challenge

Elf Loathing would be a killer band name

They could open for the Killer Dwarfs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 16, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 16, 2014, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 16, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

SNL will do skits with DA SUPERFANS beating the shit out of wimpy Cubs fans not knowing what to do with their elf loathing.

And if there's one thing true Cubs fans hate, it's fucking elves.

The elves accent the challenge

Elf Loathing would be a killer band name

They could open for the Killer Dwarfs.

Not a single joke about Oleg?

I don't even know you guys any more.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2014, 05:23:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 16, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 16, 2014, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 16, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

SNL will do skits with DA SUPERFANS beating the shit out of wimpy Cubs fans not knowing what to do with their elf loathing.

And if there's one thing true Cubs fans hate, it's fucking elves.

The elves accent the challenge

Elf Loathing would be a killer band name

They could open for the Killer Dwarfs.

Not a single joke about Oleg?

I don't even know you guys any more.

Who?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 16, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 16, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
I expect we'll become insufferable by talking about how we deserved this for all our suffering over the years. And all the Huards will call anyone who doesn't remember the entire 1981 starting lineup bandwagon jumpers.

Meh.  Bandwagoners came out in droves after '84 and I've grown accustomed to them.

I mean, I already hate 90% of my own fellow fanbase, I don't see how the Cubs winning a World Series is going to move that needle any.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 16, 2014, 06:26:19 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 16, 2014, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 16, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
Revolting. But just imagine how awful our fans are going to be when the Cubs get good. I hope everybody who claims they're going to quit watching this team for good during the rebuild is completely serious.

I said when Theo was hired I can't wait until people hate the cubs because their fans are arrogant as hell instead of because they're a mickey mouse organization full of buffoons and losers.

I look forward to it.

There's a big difference though right? Like the Red Sox got wealthy and excellent and their fans still tried that whole we're the shining beacon of light to the Evil Empire's Endless Overflowing Coffers bullshit and everyone saw through it and finally realized holy shit these people are from BOSTON we should have hated them forever.

St Louis is good but also their fans think there's some kind of purity in the way the org does everything top down and it's disgusting.

Cubs fans don't think the org is great and they don't think they're better than other fans, that I know of.

It's going to be interesting to see what kind of annoying, unbearable fanbase we'll become. What will be our hallmark?

Our hallmark will be not knowing how baseball works but talking about it incessantly like we're entitled to have our opinions heard because we suffered for sooooo long and now fuck you.

It will be repeatedly demanding answers re: Who owns the Cubs?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on July 17, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.


co-signed.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on July 17, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Looks like I got myself a new signature...
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 17, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: thehawk on July 17, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Looks like I got myself a new signature...

Which mean we're all going to forget how to speak English. Which make sense because we'll all be drunk then.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on July 17, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 17, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: thehawk on July 17, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Looks like I got myself a new signature...

Which mean we're all going to forget how to speak English. Which make sense because we'll all be drunk then.

let's not destroy CT's jeanyiss by picking on his Hutarded error
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 17, 2014, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Broken hearts will be mended.  ESPN will run in-depth 30-for-30 pieces asking why this didn't happen to the Yankees or Red Sox.  Hawk Harrelson will wander into traffic.  The rooftops will ... well, there won't be any rooftops anymore, not since the Ricketts built the dome, so never mind.  Strong takes on Twitter from the St. Louis region will bring the entire Internet to its knees.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on July 17, 2014, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 17, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 17, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: thehawk on July 17, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Looks like I got myself a new signature...

Which mean we're all going to forget how to speak English. Which make sense because we'll all be drunk then.

let's not destroy CT's jeanyiss by picking on his Hutarded error

Means. MEANS.  Dammit, I lose my blouse.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 17, 2014, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Just being alive for both championships means a person would be--at youngest--105 years old.  So I guess I'm saying that I'm pretty sure those people don't exist--or certainly won't be by the time this gotta hai.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on July 17, 2014, 12:20:30 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 17, 2014, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Broken hearts will be mended.  ESPN will run in-depth 30-for-30 pieces asking why this didn't happen to the Yankees or Red Sox.  Hawk Harrelson will wander into traffic.  The rooftops will ... well, there won't be any rooftops anymore, not since the Ricketts built the dome, so never mind.  Strong takes on Twitter from the St. Louis region will bring the entire Internet to its knees.
A 10.0 Richter Scale earthquake on the New Madrid fault will split the North America in half along the Illinois/ Indiana state line, and below and above it, creating a new continent that will be known as Cubiana.  Professional baseball teams in this new continent will form a new baseball league that includes teams from Japan, Mexico, Western Canada, and India, leading ultimately to a "true" World Series.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 17, 2014, 01:39:43 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 17, 2014, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Broken hearts will be mended.  ESPN will run in-depth 30-for-30 pieces asking why this didn't happen to the Yankees or Red Sox.  Hawk Harrelson will wander into traffic.  The rooftops will ... well, there won't be any rooftops anymore, not since the Ricketts built the dome, so never mind.  Strong takes on Twitter from the St. Louis region will bring the entire Internet to its knees.

This already happens, but I keep missing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on July 17, 2014, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 17, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 17, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: thehawk on July 17, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Looks like I got myself a new signature...

Which mean we're all going to forget how to speak English. Which make sense because we'll all be drunk then.

let's not destroy CT's jeanyiss by picking on his Hutarded error

Means. MEANS.  Dammit, I lose my blouse.

"Shirt"... "Shirt".
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on July 18, 2014, 08:38:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 17, 2014, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 17, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 17, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: thehawk on July 17, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 10:00:47 AM
See, here's how it's gonna go down:

The Cubs will win the NLCS, advancing to the World Series.  That in itself is going to be followed by a national media firestorm the likes of which have not been seen in decades. 

Then, they will play the World Series.  It will likely be the highest rated World Series since the demise of network television.  They will win. Time will stop. 

Naturally, there will be a huge parade/rally in Chicago which will likely make the streets impassable for a day or two. The eyes of the baseball universe will be on the City for the next month, in which local and national television broadcasts will recount the Cubs history ad nauseam, nursing homes will be searched in hopes of finding somebody to interview who has been alive for multiple Cubs World Championships, several sets of obnoxious new parents will claim that their baby was born .3 seconds after Kris Bryant's walk off home run cleared the fence and thus their child is the first born into a world that knows the Chicago Cubs as world champions.  Also, Grant Deporter will coax Kobiashi out of retirement to face off against Joey Chestnut to see which of them can eat a whole goat in the shortest amount of time. 

Throughout this, of course, there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth from a couple of fanbases...

Sox fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won the World Series first!
Cards fans: The Cubs don't deserve all this attention, we won several World Series!

And then we will just give them a condescending pat on the head and say "that's nice fellows, but you see, this is the CUBS.  Which mean it actually matters now."

At least, that's my plan.



Looks like I got myself a new signature...

Which mean we're all going to forget how to speak English. Which make sense because we'll all be drunk then.

let's not destroy CT's jeanyiss by picking on his Hutarded error

Means. MEANS.  Dammit, I lose my blouse.

"Shirt"... "Shirt".

Shit.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 03, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.

I hope you discussed this possibility in grave terms of how to stop it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on October 03, 2014, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.

So you're going to be a grandpappy by the time you are 40?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 03, 2014, 10:32:41 PM
Satan's team strikes again.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: BH on October 07, 2014, 09:31:03 AM
Not much needs to be said about this one.
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-get-ugly-in-clash-with-ferguson-proteste-1643282285
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 07, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2014, 09:31:03 AM
Not much needs to be said about this one.
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-get-ugly-in-clash-with-ferguson-proteste-1643282285

"At about 10:25 a small blonde lady starts yelling at the protesters: "We're the ones who gave all y'all the freedoms that you have!""

Christ on a bike.  That's breathtaking.  I can't even begin to imagine how racist you would have to be to say something like that in a public place, in front of a camera.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 07, 2014, 11:07:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 07, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2014, 09:31:03 AM
Not much needs to be said about this one.
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-get-ugly-in-clash-with-ferguson-proteste-1643282285

"At about 10:25 a small blonde lady starts yelling at the protesters: "We're the ones who gave all y'all the freedoms that you have!""

Christ on a bike.  That's breathtaking.  I can't even begin to imagine how racist you would have to be to say something like that in a public place, in front of a camera.

That's the mythology of white America for you. "We" invented freedom.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on October 07, 2014, 11:10:51 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 07, 2014, 11:07:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 07, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2014, 09:31:03 AM
Not much needs to be said about this one.
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-get-ugly-in-clash-with-ferguson-proteste-1643282285

"At about 10:25 a small blonde lady starts yelling at the protesters: "We're the ones who gave all y'all the freedoms that you have!""

Christ on a bike.  That's breathtaking.  I can't even begin to imagine how racist you would have to be to say something like that in a public place, in front of a camera.

That's the mythology of white America for you. "We" invented freedom.

Sure it took us awhile to get around to it. We first had to massacre the American Indians and enslave the Africans but once we got around to this freedom business, it was all you can eat. Unless you're not white of course.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 07, 2014, 12:42:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 07, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2014, 09:31:03 AM
Not much needs to be said about this one.
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-get-ugly-in-clash-with-ferguson-proteste-1643282285

"At about 10:25 a small blonde lady starts yelling at the protesters: "We're the ones who gave all y'all the freedoms that you have!""

Christ on a bike.  That's breathtaking.  I can't even begin to imagine how racist you would have to be to say something like that in a public place, in front of a camera.

And Obummer is taking our freedoms away. People forget that.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 07, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2014, 12:42:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 07, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2014, 09:31:03 AM
Not much needs to be said about this one.
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-get-ugly-in-clash-with-ferguson-proteste-1643282285

"At about 10:25 a small blonde lady starts yelling at the protesters: "We're the ones who gave all y'all the freedoms that you have!""

Christ on a bike.  That's breathtaking.  I can't even begin to imagine how racist you would have to be to say something like that in a public place, in front of a camera.

And Obummer is taking our freedoms away. People forget that.

And after we gave him his freedom, no less.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 07, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 07, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2014, 12:42:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 07, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2014, 09:31:03 AM
Not much needs to be said about this one.
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-get-ugly-in-clash-with-ferguson-proteste-1643282285

"At about 10:25 a small blonde lady starts yelling at the protesters: "We're the ones who gave all y'all the freedoms that you have!""

Christ on a bike.  That's breathtaking.  I can't even begin to imagine how racist you would have to be to say something like that in a public place, in front of a camera.

And Obummer is taking our freedoms away. People forget that.

And after we gave him his freedom, no less.

Uppity AND ungrateful.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 07, 2014, 06:45:17 PM
Can I just say that I'd gladly sell my soul to whatever lord of the underworld that the fucking Cardinals did in a fucking heartbeat and for a lot less. And if I could watch one fucking postseason game involving the Cardinals that didn't have Joe Buck tongue-fucking my ear for two and a half hours, that'd be a plus.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 07, 2014, 07:23:34 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 07, 2014, 06:45:17 PM
Can I just say that I'd gladly sell my soul to whatever lord of the underworld that the fucking Cardinals did in a fucking heartbeat and for a lot less. And if I could watch one fucking postseason game involving the Cardinals that didn't have Joe Buck tongue-fucking my ear for two and a half hours, that'd be a plus.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 07, 2014, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 07, 2014, 07:23:34 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 07, 2014, 06:45:17 PM
Can I just say that I'd gladly sell my soul to whatever lord of the underworld that the fucking Cardinals did in a fucking heartbeat and for a lot less. And if I could watch one fucking postseason game involving the Cardinals that didn't have Joe Buck tongue-fucking my ear for two and a half hours, that'd be a plus.

Sorry.

*Flips Malibu*
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: R-V on October 09, 2014, 12:52:29 PM
These are outstanding.

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/10/9/6944445/mlb-2014-nlcs-playoffs-cardinals-bad-writing
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 10, 2014, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 03, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.

I hope you discussed this possibility in grave terms of how to stop it.

Yeah, the last thing the world needs are more kids that look like me.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 12, 2014, 08:12:27 PM
WE WUZ ROBBED! #BALKGHAZI IS REAL! THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SET UP DARREN WILSON I BET! #CARDINALNATION #BESTFANSINBASEBALL #THANKSOBAMA #THEGIANTSAREGAYBECAUSESANFRANCISCO
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 13, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.
I hate them so much I am rooting for the Giants!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 13, 2014, 09:43:35 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.

My childhood best friend is a die-hard Cardinals fan and I'm so extremely jealous of his fan experience over the last decade. He's struck a nice balance of knowing how good he has it and also (mostly) understanding why people think the Cardinals are loathsome.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 09:39:35 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 13, 2014, 09:43:35 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.

My childhood best friend is a die-hard Cardinals fan and I'm so extremely jealous of his fan experience over the last decade. He's struck a nice balance of knowing how good he has it and also (mostly) understanding why people think the Cardinals are loathsome.

They do exist. I don't feel bad for them at all but it is cool knowing if/when the Cubs get good and have to face the Cards in a series (I hope this happens, I may die but I hope it happens anyway) that the majority of the country would be rooting along with us. At least until the Cubs win one. Then they can hate us like Boston.

The Cards have never had that - at least not in the second screen era where people are watching interactively.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 14, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 13, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.
I hate them so much I am rooting for the Giants!

I lied!  I am not rooting for the Giants!  Go Cards!   Hooray for St. Louis!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 14, 2014, 06:26:55 PM
With John Lackey pitching to A.J. Pierzynski, it's like they want to be hated.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 14, 2014, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 14, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 13, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.
I hate them so much I am rooting for the Giants!

I lied!  I am not rooting for the Giants!  Go Cards!   Hooray for St. Louis!

What do you know?  it worked
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on October 14, 2014, 11:39:09 PM
The Royals have a 10-game postseason winning streak. It should be noted it started at the Old Urinal Cake and the first three wins of the streak caused a shitton of St. Louis butthurt.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on October 14, 2014, 11:47:15 PM
Quote from: Brownie on October 14, 2014, 11:39:09 PM
The Royals have a 10-game postseason winning streak. It should be noted it started at the Old Urinal Cake and the first three wins of the streak caused a shitton of St. Louis butthurt.

Starting at the 1:49:00 mark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqAPmdnzxdE).  The apex of the butthurt.  If that moment had only doomed the fuckers for 20 years or so.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 15, 2014, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 14, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 13, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.
I hate them so much I am rooting for the Giants!

I lied!  I am not rooting for the Giants!  Go Cards!   Hooray for St. Louis!

Game 4 --- 4th inning.  Cards are up 4 to 3.Go Cards!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 16, 2014, 12:08:37 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 15, 2014, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 14, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 13, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.
I hate them so much I am rooting for the Giants!

I lied!  I am not rooting for the Giants!  Go Cards!   Hooray for St. Louis!



Game 4 --- 4th inning.  Cards are up 4 to 3.Go Cards!

I can keep this up for one more game
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 16, 2014, 03:15:58 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 16, 2014, 12:08:37 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 15, 2014, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 14, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 13, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.
I hate them so much I am rooting for the Giants!

I lied!  I am not rooting for the Giants!  Go Cards!   Hooray for St. Louis!



Game 4 --- 4th inning.  Cards are up 4 to 3.Go Cards!

I can keep this up for one more game

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm rooting for Stew.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 16, 2014, 09:05:43 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 16, 2014, 03:15:58 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 16, 2014, 12:08:37 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 15, 2014, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 14, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 13, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
It must be cool to be able to appreciate the Cardinals as a successful baseball organization. Everyone hates them so much. It's unreal.
I hate them so much I am rooting for the Giants!

I lied!  I am not rooting for the Giants!  Go Cards!   Hooray for St. Louis!



Game 4 --- 4th inning.  Cards are up 4 to 3.Go Cards!

I can keep this up for one more game

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm rooting for Stew.

I've long been leery of the paradox of being conscious of any reverse-jinxing abilities but fuck it...GO STEW.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: BH on October 16, 2014, 09:28:39 AM
@BestFansStLouis has been glorious last night and today.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 16, 2014, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: BH on October 16, 2014, 09:28:39 AM
@BestFansStLouis has been glorious last night and today.

If only Twitter were around for the Denkenger game in '85.  You think Gamergate's got some maladjusted psychos?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 16, 2014, 01:10:18 PM
This is so wonderfully perfect.

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/jbdiablo/03A16007-BE0D-46BF-9044-46392DD2ABED_zpsa6xablvc.png)

Hat tip to Slak for RT'ing it into my timeline.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 16, 2014, 06:30:13 PM
Go Cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 16, 2014, 10:35:52 PM
Fin.

I might buy a Giants hat now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM
(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/890/3924542987.png)

If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 17, 2014, 12:11:03 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 16, 2014, 06:30:13 PM
Go Cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My work is done here.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 17, 2014, 02:50:38 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM
(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/890/3924542987.png)

If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

You want me to waste my best reliever in the ninth inning of a tied elimination game? Don't make me laugh.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: BH on October 17, 2014, 07:56:34 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 02:50:38 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM
(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/890/3924542987.png)

If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

You want me to waste my best reliever in the ninth inning of a tied elimination game? Don't make me laugh.

Or use my lefty specialist against 2 lefties... get a life, losers.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM
(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/890/3924542987.png)

If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

On one hand I'm terrified of Renteria managing games that matter. On the other, I'm pretty sure there won't be any.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM
(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/890/3924542987.png)

If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

On one hand I'm terrified of Renteria managing games that matter. On the other, I'm pretty sure there won't be any.

Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

To address the second sentence, you think they'll fire him either this offseason or next?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

Did he have Castro, Rizzo, Soler or Baez bunt? Or some of the other half-a-WAR slapdicks he was saddled with? I, like Yeti, marginally paid attention when the good players weren't batting. So what gives? I remember a lot of hand-wringing around here about double switches that I didn't understand either. I need at least semi-accurate anecdotal evidence if I'm going to develop any butthurt over Ricky. Right now, I think he's a guy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 17, 2014, 09:15:52 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

Did he have Castro, Rizzo, Soler or Baez bunt? Or some of the other half-a-WAR slapdicks he was saddled with? I, like Yeti, marginally paid attention when the good players weren't batting. So what gives? I remember a lot of hand-wringing around here about double switches that I didn't understand either. I need at least semi-accurate anecdotal evidence if I'm going to develop any butthurt over Ricky. Right now, I think he's a guy.

I watched a fair bit of Cubs baseball in August and September and Ricky seemed quite happy to let Castro, Rizzo, Soler and Baez play.  Indeed, by and large he seems pretty laissez-faire all round, although it's easy to be that way when the pressure is off.  Nonetheless, I can't immediately remember an incidence of bone-headed management, and God knows, after Dusty, we all know one when we see one.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

According to B-R, they attempted 81 (7th most) of them (sacrifice bunts, that is), at a 70% success rate (LgAvg).

Interestingly enough, the Royals had 54, which is 10 less than the league average.

Counterpoint: "Ricky calls for them at shitty times". http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/all-that-ned-yost-bunting-has-helped-the-royals/

QuoteI took the additional step of leaving out pitcher bunts because many pitcher bunts are perfectly reasonable.

I got lazy with the table formatting, so the relevant information:

Royals, 1st with 1.0 WPA from non pitcher bunts.
Cubs, last with -.9 WPA from non pitcher bunts

I'm fine with hating him if there's clear information saying he's a terrible manager. I just want that information presented as opposed to a vague fear of him managing "games that matter"
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 17, 2014, 09:19:18 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM
(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/890/3924542987.png)

If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

How many tears of laughter? HOW MANY TEARS OF LAUGHTER?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

He's also got a bit of Tony Vino in him - he's used 4 pitchers in a single inning.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

Did he have Castro, Rizzo, Soler or Baez bunt? Or some of the other half-a-WAR slapdicks he was saddled with? I, like Yeti, marginally paid attention when the good players weren't batting. So what gives? I remember a lot of hand-wringing around here about double switches that I didn't understand either. I need at least semi-accurate anecdotal evidence if I'm going to develop any butthurt over Ricky. Right now, I think he's a guy.

One Sac Bunt between them (Baez).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

Did he have Castro, Rizzo, Soler or Baez bunt? Or some of the other half-a-WAR slapdicks he was saddled with? I, like Yeti, marginally paid attention when the good players weren't batting. So what gives? I remember a lot of hand-wringing around here about double switches that I didn't understand either. I need at least semi-accurate anecdotal evidence if I'm going to develop any butthurt over Ricky. Right now, I think he's a guy.

One Sac Bunt between them (Baez).

I think that should matter. When he starts having his good hitters bunt I'll worry.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 10:13:35 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

He's also got a bit of Tony Vino in him - he's used 4 pitchers in a single inning.

As much as I hate his personality, to which Renteria's bears no discernible resemblance, LaRussa was a pretty successful manager of baseball players in his spare time. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 17, 2014, 10:14:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

He's also got a bit of Tony Vino in him - he's used 4 pitchers in a single inning.

That's not really saying much. There were 41 half-innings this year where the pitching team used four pitchers. Only 6 teams didn't have an occasion where they used four pitchers in an inning. And the tops/bottoms of the spectrum don't correlate with success. If anything Renteria (who only used 3 pitchers in an inning 12 times this year, 26th in the MLB) was less prone to over-managing late matchups than your typical Genius.

(http://i.imgur.com/T89tStQ.png)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 17, 2014, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

Did he have Castro, Rizzo, Soler or Baez bunt? Or some of the other half-a-WAR slapdicks he was saddled with? I, like Yeti, marginally paid attention when the good players weren't batting. So what gives? I remember a lot of hand-wringing around here about double switches that I didn't understand either. I need at least semi-accurate anecdotal evidence if I'm going to develop any butthurt over Ricky. Right now, I think he's a guy.

Pretty much this. Yeti's post shows that Renteria bunted in poor situations, but I don't think that's enough for me to think he's bad. As long as the guys aren't revolting against him and he can manage a pitching staff OK, I'm fine with him.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 10:30:46 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 17, 2014, 10:14:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

He's also got a bit of Tony Vino in him - he's used 4 pitchers in a single inning.

That's not really saying much. There were 41 half-innings this year where the pitching team used four pitchers. Only 6 teams didn't have an occasion where they used four pitchers in an inning. And the tops/bottoms of the spectrum don't correlate with success. If anything Renteria (who only used 3 pitchers in an inning 12 times this year, 26th in the MLB) was less prone to over-managing late matchups than your typical Genius.

(http://i.imgur.com/T89tStQ.png)

I very much enjoy having you around. Good shit.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 17, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
Keeping Smilin' Rick is fine for now, unless they have a shot at a post-Friedman Joe Maddon.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
Keeping Smilin' Rick is fine for now, unless they have a shot at a post-Friedman Joe Maddon.

I do think Ricky does good work when it comes to making players feel good and happy. At least he has so far. That is very important. I hope he learns and grows with the on field stuff. I'm not really too interested in seeing them change managers all the time.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
Keeping Smilin' Rick is fine for now, unless they have a shot at a post-Friedman Joe Maddon.

I do think Ricky does good work when it comes to making players feel good and happy. At least he has so far. That is very important. I hope he learns and grows with the on field stuff. I'm not really too interested in seeing them change managers all the time.

Starlin Castro has had 4 managers in his 5 MLB years
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
Keeping Smilin' Rick is fine for now, unless they have a shot at a post-Friedman Joe Maddon.

I do think Ricky does good work when it comes to making players feel good and happy. At least he has so far. That is very important. I hope he learns and grows with the on field stuff. I'm not really too interested in seeing them change managers all the time.

Starlin Castro has had 4 managers in his 5 MLB years

Right. Ricky will be here unless the Cubs somehow lose 100 games again next year or there's a player revolt. There's no point in getting worked up over Joe Maddon or anyone else.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 17, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
Keeping Smilin' Rick is fine for now, unless they have a shot at a post-Friedman Joe Maddon.

I do think Ricky does good work when it comes to making players feel good and happy. At least he has so far. That is very important. I hope he learns and grows with the on field stuff. I'm not really too interested in seeing them change managers all the time.

Starlin Castro has had 4 managers in his 5 MLB years

Right. Ricky will be here unless the Cubs somehow lose 100 games again next year or there's a player revolt. There's no point in getting worked up over Joe Maddon or anyone else.

If all our prospect hopes and dreams come true, all the Cubs' manager will have to do is get out of the team's way.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 17, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
Keeping Smilin' Rick is fine for now, unless they have a shot at a post-Friedman Joe Maddon.

I do think Ricky does good work when it comes to making players feel good and happy. At least he has so far. That is very important. I hope he learns and grows with the on field stuff. I'm not really too interested in seeing them change managers all the time.

Starlin Castro has had 4 managers in his 5 MLB years

Right. Ricky will be here unless the Cubs somehow lose 100 games again next year or there's a player revolt. There's no point in getting worked up over Joe Maddon or anyone else.

If all our prospect hopes and dreams come true, all the Cubs' manager will have to do is get out of the team's way.

Which Matheny fantastically failed to do this week. I don't know if this is the Methocalypse we've been pining for but it's not another Cardinal championship, so there's that. They could always go get a post-Friedman Madden themselves but for all that talk, why wouldn't the Dodgers be the favorite to land one of those?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 17, 2014, 02:07:49 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 17, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
Keeping Smilin' Rick is fine for now, unless they have a shot at a post-Friedman Joe Maddon.

I do think Ricky does good work when it comes to making players feel good and happy. At least he has so far. That is very important. I hope he learns and grows with the on field stuff. I'm not really too interested in seeing them change managers all the time.

Starlin Castro has had 4 managers in his 5 MLB years

Right. Ricky will be here unless the Cubs somehow lose 100 games again next year or there's a player revolt. There's no point in getting worked up over Joe Maddon or anyone else.

If all our prospect hopes and dreams come true, all the Cubs' manager will have to do is get out of the team's way.

Which Matheny fantastically failed to do this week. I don't know if this is the Methocalypse we've been pining for but it's not another Cardinal championship, so there's that. They could always go get a post-Friedman Madden themselves but for all that talk, why wouldn't the Dodgers be the favorite to land one of those?

Getting Friedman has me worried the Dodgers will kill my David Price 2016 buzz.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 24, 2014, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
Keeping Smilin' Rick is fine for now, unless they have a shot at a post-Friedman Joe Maddon.

Look who's available, you female dogs. (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/99468606/joe-maddon-opts-out-of-contract-leaves-rays)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 26, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 10, 2014, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 03, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AMw
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.

I hope you discussed this possibility in grave terms of how to stop it.

Yeah, the last thing the world needs are more kids that look like me.

About that....
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on October 26, 2014, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

So...price of Stanton just went down a little?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 26, 2014, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

Ken Hubbs,  rookie of the year, died in an off-season plane crash in 1964 at the age of 22.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 26, 2014, 09:49:46 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

Fucking 22 years old. God damn.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 26, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 10, 2014, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 03, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AMw
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.

I hope you discussed this possibility in grave terms of how to stop it.

Yeah, the last thing the world needs are more kids that look like me.

About that....

You planted your beltless seed?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 26, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 10, 2014, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 03, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AMw
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.

I hope you discussed this possibility in grave terms of how to stop it.

Yeah, the last thing the world needs are more kids that look like me.

About that....

You planted your beltless seed?

That's.....one way to say that.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 26, 2014, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

We hardly knew ye, Minor League Guy (http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/MinorLeagueGuyTaveras.jpg).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 27, 2014, 06:59:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 10, 2014, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 03, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AMw
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.

I hope you discussed this possibility in grave terms of how to stop it.

Yeah, the last thing the world needs are more kids that look like me.

About that....

You planted your beltless seed?

That's.....one way to say that.

...Congratulations?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 27, 2014, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 27, 2014, 06:59:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Fork on October 10, 2014, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 03, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2014, 11:48:32 AMw
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 03, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
St. Louis's dumb mayor pens (http://online.wsj.com/articles/st-louis-to-america-dont-be-jealous-1412273454) an awful op-ed telling everyone how great St. Louis is, because Jon Hamm had the misfortune of growing up there and businesspeople exist who weren't successful until they moved to San Francisco.  There's also an enjoyable takedown (http://deadspin.com/the-mayor-of-st-louis-is-a-complete-dipshit-1642052026) from DREW MAGARY that has the advantage of not making you read the actual piece.

I go back and forth on Magary but this made my year.

I know Magary has a bit of a schtick, but damn if I don't enjoy it about 99% of the time.

yeah, it's the same formula every time, and sometimes he just fires at the wrong target, but I like him overall. He also is more than willing to poke shit at himself and he's not thin-skinned, so that does make him better than about 98% of all interweb talking heads.

I'm a fan, for sure. 
His parenting book is fantastic. 

But that take down was the best yet.

Agreed.

I know you'll probably end up having kids by the time you turn 19, but I find it odd that you read that. 

Well in non-meme world I'm 26 and I've been married for 2 1/2 years. The wife and I have discussed the possibility of reproducing, yes.

I hope you discussed this possibility in grave terms of how to stop it.

Yeah, the last thing the world needs are more kids that look like me.

About that....

You planted your beltless seed?

That's.....one way to say that.

...Congratulations?

There will be time for that later. Right now a man is DEAD
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 27, 2014, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.

Until he stopped.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 27, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 27, 2014, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.

Until he stopped.

Good point.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on October 27, 2014, 09:16:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 27, 2014, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.

Until he stopped.

Good point.

*makes "X" on calendar for appropriate moment to lol at this.*
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 27, 2014, 09:18:51 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 27, 2014, 09:16:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 27, 2014, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.

Until he stopped.

Good point.

*makes "X" on calendar for appropriate moment to lol at this.*

If it's not safe to make horribly insensitive jokes in this particular dark corner of the Internet then fuck all.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 27, 2014, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.

Hancock wasn't
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 27, 2014, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 27, 2014, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.

Hancock wasn't

Thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 27, 2014, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 27, 2014, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.

Hancock wasn't

Thanks for the explanation.

Fork used that to set up the play action.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 29, 2014, 08:04:27 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 27, 2014, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 27, 2014, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 27, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 26, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
RIP Oscar Tavares.

Yikes

Truly awful.

This is hard to stomach.

I didn't even know he was a relief pitcher.

To be fair, Darryl Kile was a starter.

Hancock wasn't

Thanks for the explanation.

Fork used that to set up the play action.

Remember when we called 32 ounce Buds "Hancocks" because Hancock wore 32? What's happened to us, man?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 01, 2014, 02:00:04 PM
I don't know where else to put this but there's a tax collector I have to e-mail whose name is Gay St. Louis and I cannot stop laughing because I am an adult.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on December 01, 2014, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2014, 02:00:04 PM
I don't know where else to put this but there's a tax collector I have to e-mail whose name is Gay St. Louis and I cannot stop laughing because I am an adult.

(http://static.flickr.com/54/131431948_89f177188c.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on March 11, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
Best Cuisine in Baseball

http://kitchenette.jezebel.com/the-st-louis-cuisine-wikipedia-page-is-goddamned-hil-1690071082/+marchman
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on March 11, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: thehawk on March 11, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
Best Cuisine in Baseball

http://kitchenette.jezebel.com/the-st-louis-cuisine-wikipedia-page-is-goddamned-hil-1690071082/+marchman

Oh holy shit.  YES!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on March 11, 2015, 09:28:50 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 11, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: thehawk on March 11, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
Best Cuisine in Baseball

http://kitchenette.jezebel.com/the-st-louis-cuisine-wikipedia-page-is-goddamned-hil-1690071082/+marchman

Oh holy shit.  YES!

The very fact that St. Louis style "barbecue" lacks the ONE SINGLE DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF ALL BARBECUE STYLES is so indicative of that shithole.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on March 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Not that it'd have made a difference but I actually first read that as Curt Flood, which would've made this even better on a number of levels.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on March 26, 2015, 06:19:40 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Not that it'd have made a difference but I actually first read that as Curt Flood, which would've made this even better on a number of levels.

I did too.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on March 26, 2015, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Not that it'd have made a difference but I actually first read that as Curt Flood, which would've made this even better on a number of levels.

Especially since he died over 18 years ago.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on March 27, 2015, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: Oleg on March 26, 2015, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Not that it'd have made a difference but I actually first read that as Curt Flood, which would've made this even better on a number of levels.

Especially since he died over 18 years ago.

Racist.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: R-V on March 27, 2015, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 27, 2015, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: Oleg on March 26, 2015, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Not that it'd have made a difference but I actually first read that as Curt Flood, which would've made this even better on a number of levels.

Especially since he died over 18 years ago.

Racist.

Vince Coleman outlasts another one.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on March 27, 2015, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 27, 2015, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 27, 2015, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: Oleg on March 26, 2015, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Not that it'd have made a difference but I actually first read that as Curt Flood, which would've made this even better on a number of levels.

Especially since he died over 18 years ago.

Racist.

Vince Coleman outlasts another one.

Unless "other one" is a monstrous, man-eating, automatic tarp, I agree.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on March 27, 2015, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 27, 2015, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 27, 2015, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 27, 2015, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: Oleg on March 26, 2015, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Not that it'd have made a difference but I actually first read that as Curt Flood, which would've made this even better on a number of levels.

Especially since he died over 18 years ago.

Racist.

Vince Coleman outlasts another one.

Unless "other one" is a monstrous, man-eating, automatic tarp, I agree.

I started typing a tarp joke, and then I stopped and said "no, I'm not Huey."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on March 27, 2015, 09:14:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 27, 2015, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 27, 2015, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 27, 2015, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 27, 2015, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: Oleg on March 26, 2015, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Best fans... (http://deadspin.com/cops-former-cards-player-attacked-called-racial-slurs-1693886452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Not that it'd have made a difference but I actually first read that as Curt Flood, which would've made this even better on a number of levels.

Especially since he died over 18 years ago.

Racist.

Vince Coleman outlasts another one.

Unless "other one" is a monstrous, man-eating, automatic tarp, I agree.

I started typing a tarp joke, and then I stopped and said "no, I'm not Huey."

Some things cannot be helped. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 07, 2015, 03:49:25 PM
The Cardinals methpocalypse is coming June 26. I can't wait. Bryant, Rizzo, Russell, and Soler will all go 3-for-3 with three homers and three bases on balls in every game of the series. REVENGE.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 07, 2015, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on May 07, 2015, 03:49:25 PM
The Cardinals methpocalypse is coming June 26. I can't wait. Bryant, Rizzo, Russell, and Soler will all go 3-for-3 with three homers and three bases on balls in every game of the series. REVENGE.

Nope. Not happening. This Cardinals team makes the '61 Yankees look like the 2015 White Sox.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on May 07, 2015, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on May 07, 2015, 03:49:25 PM
The Cardinals methpocalypse is coming June 26. I can't wait. Bryant, Rizzo, Russell, and Soler will all go 3-for-3 with three homers and three bases on balls in every game of the series. REVENGE.

3-for-36 in the series with 1 RBI and no homers. Bryant will still have zero homers after that series ends.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on June 16, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
!!!

QuoteThe F.B.I. and Justice Department prosecutors are investigating front-office officials for the St. Louis Cardinals, one of the most successful teams in baseball over the past two decades, for hacking into the internal networks of a rival team to steal closely guarded information about player personnel.

Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials. Internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports were compromised, the officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/sports/baseball/st-louis-cardinals-hack-astros-fbi.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on June 16, 2015, 10:14:12 AM
Dammit, I forgot about this thread.

http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8906.0
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 16, 2015, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 16, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
!!!

QuoteThe F.B.I. and Justice Department prosecutors are investigating front-office officials for the St. Louis Cardinals, one of the most successful teams in baseball over the past two decades, for hacking into the internal networks of a rival team to steal closely guarded information about player personnel.

Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials. Internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports were compromised, the officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/sports/baseball/st-louis-cardinals-hack-astros-fbi.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0

Oh man I cannot wait to see how the BFIBB try so spin this. Eat shit you fucking hypocrites.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on June 16, 2015, 10:15:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 16, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
!!!

QuoteThe F.B.I. and Justice Department prosecutors are investigating front-office officials for the St. Louis Cardinals, one of the most successful teams in baseball over the past two decades, for hacking into the internal networks of a rival team to steal closely guarded information about player personnel.

Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials. Internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports were compromised, the officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/sports/baseball/st-louis-cardinals-hack-astros-fbi.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0

Well, I guess that explains the Astros email dump from a year ago. http://deadspin.com/leaked-10-months-of-the-houston-astros-internal-trade-1597951970
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on June 16, 2015, 10:23:59 AM
Also, this:

QuoteInvestigators believe Cardinals officials, concerned that Mr. Luhnow had taken their idea and proprietary baseball information to the Astros, examined a master list of passwords used by Mr. Luhnow and the other officials who had joined the Astros when they worked for the Cardinals. The Cardinals officials are believed to have used those passwords to gain access to the Astros' network, law enforcement officials said.

... means that the Cardinals store their passwords in plain text. That's a huge no-no. Definitely not the best IT in baseball.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on June 16, 2015, 10:29:46 AM
Also makes you wonder what other underhanded shit they're up to. Nobody gets caught the first time.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on June 16, 2015, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 16, 2015, 10:29:46 AM
Also makes you wonder what other underhanded shit they're up to. Nobody gets caught the first time.

I'm sure everyone for the Cubs will be changing their passwords today, once they dig through all the empty champagne bottles to get to the park.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on June 16, 2015, 11:10:40 AM
Lot of gold here.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Cardinals&src=tren
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 16, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
I can't seem to get twitter to work today. Does anybody have Will Leitch's take on this? I bet it's delicious.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on June 16, 2015, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
I can't seem to get twitter to work today. Does anybody have Will Leitch's take on this? I bet it's delicious.

QuoteSo basically, Deflategate, which is my least favorite sports story of all time, is gonna happen to the Cardinals now. Just a delight..... All right, now that the shock has worn off: May I go on record saying that if this is true, everyone involved should be thrown off the Arch..... All the success, all the hard work, and by being completely stupid, you've allowed everyone to question everything.....And you would deserve it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 16, 2015, 12:59:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 16, 2015, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
I can't seem to get twitter to work today. Does anybody have Will Leitch's take on this? I bet it's delicious.

QuoteSo basically, Deflategate, which is my least favorite sports story of all time, is gonna happen to the Cardinals now. Just a delight..... All right, now that the shock has worn off: May I go on record saying that if this is true, everyone involved should be thrown off the Arch..... All the success, all the hard work, and by being completely stupid, you've allowed everyone to question everything.....And you would deserve it.

I was right. That was delicious.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on June 16, 2015, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 12:59:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 16, 2015, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
I can't seem to get twitter to work today. Does anybody have Will Leitch's take on this? I bet it's delicious.

QuoteSo basically, Deflategate, which is my least favorite sports story of all time, is gonna happen to the Cardinals now. Just a delight..... All right, now that the shock has worn off: May I go on record saying that if this is true, everyone involved should be thrown off the Arch..... All the success, all the hard work, and by being completely stupid, you've allowed everyone to question everything.....And you would deserve it.


I was right. That was delicious.

I want to savor his salty tears like a fine wine.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 16, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
Not sure entering a list of passwords you have into a login screen really constitutes "hacking," but since no one working in media seems to know what hacking is, sure why not.

I wonder what happened to make Jeff Luhnow more hated in St. Louis than unarmed black children. Someone had better make sure Theo didn't use the same Boston passwords when he built the Cubs' database.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 16, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 16, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
Not sure entering a list of passwords you have into a login screen really constitutes "hacking," but since no one working in media seems to know what hacking is, sure why not.

I wonder what happened to make Jeff Luhnow more hated in St. Louis than unarmed black children. Someone had better make sure Theo didn't use the same Boston passwords when he built the Cubs' database.

From what I gather when the owner insisted on hiring Luhnow and his new fangled statamajiggers, Ol' Walt Jocketty got mad and hated Luhnow from the start. Eventually it was part of what led to Jocketty getting fired. The Jocketty loyalists (and presumably baseball traditionalists rather than sabermetric guys) in the Cardinals FO hated Luhnow even more after that, and when he left them for Houston they decided to fuck with him and his database.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on June 16, 2015, 02:35:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 16, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
Not sure entering a list of passwords you have into a login screen really constitutes "hacking," but since no one working in media seems to know what hacking is, sure why not.

I wonder what happened to make Jeff Luhnow more hated in St. Louis than unarmed black children. Someone had better make sure Theo didn't use the same Boston passwords when he built the Cubs' database.

It's technically hacking because they had to get to the proprietary log-in screen in the first place just to use the passwords that Luhnow was dumb enough not to change.

And whether it's hacking or not, Cardinal employees violated federal law by using a computer to access another organization's private information. Somebody's going to spend time in a federal PMITA prison for this.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 16, 2015, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 16, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
Not sure entering a list of passwords you have into a login screen really constitutes "hacking," but since no one working in media seems to know what hacking is, sure why not.

I wonder what happened to make Jeff Luhnow more hated in St. Louis than unarmed black children. Someone had better make sure Theo didn't use the same Boston passwords when he built the Cubs' database.

From what I gather when the owner insisted on hiring Luhnow and his new fangled statamajiggers, Ol' Walt Jocketty got mad and hated Luhnow from the start. Eventually it was part of what led to Jocketty getting fired. The Jocketty loyalists (and presumably baseball traditionalists rather than sabermetric guys) in the Cardinals FO hated Luhnow even more after that, and when he left them for Houston they decided to fuck with him and his database.

Nice. Where did you hear this?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 16, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 16, 2015, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 16, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
Not sure entering a list of passwords you have into a login screen really constitutes "hacking," but since no one working in media seems to know what hacking is, sure why not.

I wonder what happened to make Jeff Luhnow more hated in St. Louis than unarmed black children. Someone had better make sure Theo didn't use the same Boston passwords when he built the Cubs' database.

From what I gather when the owner insisted on hiring Luhnow and his new fangled statamajiggers, Ol' Walt Jocketty got mad and hated Luhnow from the start. Eventually it was part of what led to Jocketty getting fired. The Jocketty loyalists (and presumably baseball traditionalists rather than sabermetric guys) in the Cardinals FO hated Luhnow even more after that, and when he left them for Houston they decided to fuck with him and his database.

Nice. Where did you hear this?

It's what I gathered from this: http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2015/6/16/8790021/f-b-i-investigating-st-louis-cardinals-front-office-for-hacking

key quote:
QuoteSo it appears that the pettiness that created a schism within the St. Louis front office after Bill DeWitt Jr.'s hiring of Luhnow that ultimately resulted in the termination of former Cardinals GM Walt Jocketty turned into vengefulness toward Luhnow after he left for Houston. This resulted in hacking the Houston system, gaining access to sensitive internal information, and leaking it online—all in an effort to make life difficult for Luhnow. One wonders whether these individuals had any inkling that what they were doing was a violation of federal law.

Related: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/walt-jocketty-axed-cards-numbers-crunch-article-1.230511

QuoteThe firing of respected Walt Jocketty as Cardinals GM last Tuesday by team chairman Bill DeWitt was just another example of the growing trend of meddling owners reducing the powers of the general manager and shifting the emphasis of baseball operations to statistical analysis.

In announcing he was parting ways with Jocketty - under whose stewardship the Cardinals had gone to the postseason five times in the last seven years, twice to the World Series and winning it all just last year - DeWitt cited an irreconcilable division within the Cardinals' front office. But it was a division DeWitt created when he promoted Jeff Luhnow, one of the new-wave stat practitioners, as head of both player development and scouting.

So it would appear that the Cardinals are so mad at the guy that basically overhauled their entire farm system and turned them into an unstoppable machine constantly churning out good players that they committed a federal crime just to make him look bad, all because he contributed to getting a GM that had long since outlived his usefulness fired seven years ago.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 16, 2015, 03:45:58 PM
DPD- I do love how hilariously wrong the author of that article about Jocketty getting fired turned out to be, criticizing the firing of Jocketty due to "meddling ownership" when clearly hiring Mozeliak and Luhnow to fix their farm system and emphasize statistical analysis clearly was the right move as its allowed them to have sustained success to this day.  The fart noise he makes when he dismisses Neal Huntington's chances of rebuilding Pittsburgh is equally amusing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 16, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 16, 2015, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 16, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
Not sure entering a list of passwords you have into a login screen really constitutes "hacking," but since no one working in media seems to know what hacking is, sure why not.

I wonder what happened to make Jeff Luhnow more hated in St. Louis than unarmed black children. Someone had better make sure Theo didn't use the same Boston passwords when he built the Cubs' database.

From what I gather when the owner insisted on hiring Luhnow and his new fangled statamajiggers, Ol' Walt Jocketty got mad and hated Luhnow from the start. Eventually it was part of what led to Jocketty getting fired. The Jocketty loyalists (and presumably baseball traditionalists rather than sabermetric guys) in the Cardinals FO hated Luhnow even more after that, and when he left them for Houston they decided to fuck with him and his database.

Nice. Where did you hear this?

It's what I gathered from this: http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2015/6/16/8790021/f-b-i-investigating-st-louis-cardinals-front-office-for-hacking

key quote:
QuoteSo it appears that the pettiness that created a schism within the St. Louis front office after Bill DeWitt Jr.'s hiring of Luhnow that ultimately resulted in the termination of former Cardinals GM Walt Jocketty turned into vengefulness toward Luhnow after he left for Houston. This resulted in hacking the Houston system, gaining access to sensitive internal information, and leaking it online—all in an effort to make life difficult for Luhnow. One wonders whether these individuals had any inkling that what they were doing was a violation of federal law.

Related: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/walt-jocketty-axed-cards-numbers-crunch-article-1.230511

QuoteThe firing of respected Walt Jocketty as Cardinals GM last Tuesday by team chairman Bill DeWitt was just another example of the growing trend of meddling owners reducing the powers of the general manager and shifting the emphasis of baseball operations to statistical analysis.

In announcing he was parting ways with Jocketty - under whose stewardship the Cardinals had gone to the postseason five times in the last seven years, twice to the World Series and winning it all just last year - DeWitt cited an irreconcilable division within the Cardinals' front office. But it was a division DeWitt created when he promoted Jeff Luhnow, one of the new-wave stat practitioners, as head of both player development and scouting.

So it would appear that the Cardinals are so mad at the guy that basically overhauled their entire farm system and turned them into an unstoppable machine constantly churning out good players that they committed a federal crime just to make him look bad, all because he contributed to getting a GM that had long since outlived his usefulness fired seven years ago.
I positive this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on June 16, 2015, 04:34:47 PM
THIS WEEK JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER!!!!!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: R-V on June 16, 2015, 04:39:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 03:45:58 PM
DPD- I do love how hilariously wrong the author of that article about Jocketty getting fired turned out to be, criticizing the firing of Jocketty due to "meddling ownership" when clearly hiring Mozeliak and Luhnow to fix their farm system and emphasize statistical analysis clearly was the right move as its allowed them to have sustained success to this day.  The fart noise he makes when he dismisses Neal Huntington's chances of rebuilding Pittsburgh is equally amusing.

Also this was fun: Chris Duncan the frontline player. Who was out of baseball two years after this was written.

QuoteOn the other hand, a big part of Jocketty's undoing with DeWitt was the failure of the Cardinals' farm system to develop any pitchers in a decade and only two frontline players, catcher Yadier Molina and outfielder Chris Duncan, in recent years.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 16, 2015, 04:44:03 PM
At least some (not all, those fun-ruiners) of the Best Fans in Baseball are meeting this news with their trademark level-headedness and perspective.

Quote from: BirdoInBoston
Why hack the Disastros
and not the Flubbies?

Quote from: tigr
Here's Hoping that it was just a bitter IT Guy
Who had access to some master passwords and an anonymous bin dump online.  It could be just that simple.

Quote from: armyofmike
there are some conclusions drawn about the offending person(s)' motivation that are presumptuous at this point.
I don't buy this motive, at least not yet.

Quote from: BigJawnMize
This isnt a Cardinal problem...
...imo.  This is an Astro's problem.

The passwords were probably written into the code of the system. Admin level passwords that would require a programmer to actually change. They were never changed making me believe that the code for "Ground Control" was stolen from the Cardinals to begin with.

Quote from: BigJawnMize
Gawd people are dense....
...what I am saying is when Mejdal or Luhnow left they downloaded the Cardinals code for their software and used it as the basis of Ground Control.

& DARERN WILSOM WAS TH REAL VICTUM!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!

Oh not a facebook friend. That guy is my Uncle (by marriage) and the worst Cardinals fan of all Cardinals fans. He is the Uber-BFIB. He swallows all of that shit hook, line, and sinker.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 17, 2015, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!

Oh not a facebook friend. That guy is my Uncle (by marriage) and the worst Cardinals fan of all Cardinals fans. He is the Uber-BFIB. He swallows all of that shit hook, line, and sinker.

you married your uncle?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!

Oh not a facebook friend. That guy is my Uncle (by marriage) and the worst Cardinals fan of all Cardinals fans. He is the Uber-BFIB. He swallows all of that shit hook, line, and sinker.

you married your uncle?


Man how many different clocks did you set for TIME TO POST this morning?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 17, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!

Oh not a facebook friend. That guy is my Uncle (by marriage) and the worst Cardinals fan of all Cardinals fans. He is the Uber-BFIB. He swallows all of that shit hook, line, and sinker.

you married your uncle?


Man how many different clocks did you set for TIME TO POST this morning?

How do you know it's not the Cardinals using my signon?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on June 17, 2015, 02:05:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!

Oh not a facebook friend. That guy is my Uncle (by marriage) and the worst Cardinals fan of all Cardinals fans. He is the Uber-BFIB. He swallows all of that shit hook, line, and sinker.

you married your uncle?


Man how many different clocks did you set for TIME TO POST this morning?

How do you know it's not the Cardinals using my signon?

Man's got a point.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 17, 2015, 03:35:49 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 17, 2015, 02:05:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!

Oh not a facebook friend. That guy is my Uncle (by marriage) and the worst Cardinals fan of all Cardinals fans. He is the Uber-BFIB. He swallows all of that shit hook, line, and sinker.

you married your uncle?


Man how many different clocks did you set for TIME TO POST this morning?

How do you know it's not the Cardinals using my signon?

Man's got a point.

Have the Cardinals had his sign-on this whole time? That would explain a lot.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 17, 2015, 04:45:17 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 17, 2015, 03:35:49 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 17, 2015, 02:05:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!

Oh not a facebook friend. That guy is my Uncle (by marriage) and the worst Cardinals fan of all Cardinals fans. He is the Uber-BFIB. He swallows all of that shit hook, line, and sinker.

you married your uncle?


Man how many different clocks did you set for TIME TO POST this morning?

How do you know it's not the Cardinals using my signon?

Man's got a point.

Have the Cardinals had his sign-on this whole time? That would explain a lot.

One liner saturation. It's the Cardinals Way.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on June 17, 2015, 08:01:05 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 17, 2015, 03:35:49 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 17, 2015, 02:05:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 17, 2015, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
Intrepid reader Jeff R. Jackson, SKO's FB friend, in response to Dolan's "You don't get to act like this isn't a big deal" article:

Words from a really jealous dipshit! Some people just can't stand winners and its not a big deal!

Oh not a facebook friend. That guy is my Uncle (by marriage) and the worst Cardinals fan of all Cardinals fans. He is the Uber-BFIB. He swallows all of that shit hook, line, and sinker.

you married your uncle?


Man how many different clocks did you set for TIME TO POST this morning?

How do you know it's not the Cardinals using my signon?

Man's got a point.

Have the Cardinals had his sign-on this whole time? That would explain a lot.

If so, this would top my montanabrenan hijinks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on June 27, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
I know we call them the Satanic Fowl, but can anyone prove that they haven't sold their souls to some sort of Baseball Satan?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 27, 2015, 08:09:40 PM
Still looking forward to the Cardinals methocalpyse over here. Also Harold Reynolds thinks the Cubs shouldn't make any moves and should look at competing next year because Reds.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on June 28, 2015, 12:52:34 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 27, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
I know we call them the Satanic Fowl, but can anyone prove that they haven't sold their souls to some sort of Baseball Satan?

Matt Carpetner is Baseball Satan. We're doomed.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 28, 2015, 10:54:49 PM
That sure was nice of the ESPN announcers to whitewash the role Oscar Taveras's poor decisionmaking and .287 BAC played in the "tragic" but super inspirational car crash that is directly responsible for Carlos Martinez being so great.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on June 29, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 27, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
I know we call them the Satanic Fowl, but can anyone prove that they haven't sold their souls to some sort of Baseball Satan?

Xavier Scruggs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on June 29, 2015, 09:13:36 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 28, 2015, 10:54:49 PM
That sure was nice of the ESPN announcers to whitewash the role Oscar Taveras's poor decisionmaking and .287 BAC played in the "tragic" but super inspirational car crash that is directly responsible for Carlos Martinez being so great.

It's ESPN...awful is what they do. And they do it well.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on June 29, 2015, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 29, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 27, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
I know we call them the Satanic Fowl, but can anyone prove that they haven't sold their souls to some sort of Baseball Satan?

Xavier Scruggs.

Seriously....following the games all weekend and I had,at one point, though to myself "Xavier Scruggs"  is such a typical Cardinals' name.  Where do they find these fucking people?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on June 29, 2015, 09:35:57 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 29, 2015, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 29, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 27, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
I know we call them the Satanic Fowl, but can anyone prove that they haven't sold their souls to some sort of Baseball Satan?

Xavier Scruggs.

Seriously....following the games all weekend and I had,at one point, though to myself "Xavier Scruggs"  is such a typical Cardinals' name.  Where do they find these fucking people?

They spawn from a demon portal that casts from the Arch during lightning storms and when the Cubs leave town they lurch underground only to reappear just in time for the next Cubs series.

Watch this fuckhead go 0-16 against the White Sox or something.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on June 29, 2015, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 29, 2015, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 29, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 27, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
I know we call them the Satanic Fowl, but can anyone prove that they haven't sold their souls to some sort of Baseball Satan?

Xavier Scruggs.

Seriously....following the games all weekend and I had,at one point, though to myself "Xavier Scruggs"  is such a typical Cardinals' name.  Where do they find these fucking people?

Were you aware that he's black? If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on June 29, 2015, 09:55:04 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 29, 2015, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 29, 2015, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 29, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 27, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
I know we call them the Satanic Fowl, but can anyone prove that they haven't sold their souls to some sort of Baseball Satan?

Xavier Scruggs.

Seriously....following the games all weekend and I had,at one point, though to myself "Xavier Scruggs"  is such a typical Cardinals' name.  Where do they find these fucking people?

Were you aware that he's black? If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it.

This is the first I'm learning of this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 29, 2015, 05:58:59 PM
Because of course he will. (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/133605716/adam-wainwright-eyes-comeback-by-end-of-season)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 07, 2015, 05:22:31 AM
DPD. In our hour of darkness (damn it), at least we can enjoy the Best Fans' butthurt (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis) from Kris Bryant's All-Star triumph over the forces of evil, i.e. Matt Carpenter.  Kris's dreamy eyes beat Bogdan's (http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Bogdan_Wolynetz) brows (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/572761.jpg) any day, Methheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 07, 2015, 10:17:07 PM
TPD. I love baseball. Baseball is great.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 08, 2015, 06:55:46 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

Walking down Clark St. after the game toward my car, I overheard a couple of butthurt Cardinals mentioning that the Cubs "should *expect* to beat two minor-league pitchers". I was going to point out that the Cubs rolled out a minor league pitcher too, but with my son on my shoulders and the cross-street where I was turning off of approaching, I figured it'd be just more enjoyable to soak up the glorious butthurt in silence.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 08, 2015, 07:10:56 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 06:55:46 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

Walking down Clark St. after the game toward my car, I overheard a couple of butthurt Cardinals mentioning that the Cubs "should *expect* to beat two minor-league pitchers". I was going to point out that the Cubs rolled out a minor league pitcher too, but with my son on my shoulders and the cross-street where I was turning off of approaching, I figured it'd be just more enjoyable to soak up the glorious butthurt in silence.

I just don't even engage with Cardinals fans. There is no joy to ever be derived from the exercise in any fashion. Best to just enjoy the company of the nine billion people on twitter who hate the Cardinals instead.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

I really want to hear it, but don't know what you were listening to. I can't find the endless butthurt. The two TV guys were iffy on it, but no real butthurt. Both radio guys thought it was fair.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 08, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

I really want to hear it, but don't know what you were listening to. I can't find the endless butthurt. The two TV guys were iffy on it, but no real butthurt. Both radio guys thought it was fair.

I was watching the FSN Midwest feed. It was pretty amusing, they both said it was obviously foul to begin with, then retracted their statements once it the initial replay was obviously fair or at worst too close to call.

Then the Cubs took the lead and through the subsequent innings there was a slow build until that call became second only to Denkinger. The initial reaction was admittedly tame.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on July 08, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 08, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

I really want to hear it, but don't know what you were listening to. I can't find the endless butthurt. The two TV guys were iffy on it, but no real butthurt. Both radio guys thought it was fair.

I was watching the FSN Midwest feed. It was pretty amusing, they both said it was obviously foul to begin with, then retracted their statements once it the initial replay was obviously fair or at worst too close to call.

Then the Cubs took the lead and through the subsequent innings there was a slow build until that call became second only to Denkinger. The initial reaction was admittedly tame.

When I got to that part of the game, I switched feeds so I could listen to it.  One of them said it was fair, and subsequently changed his mind to foul, and the other said it was foul, and subsequently changed his mind to fair.  In any event, I thought butthurt was disappointingly thin on the ground.  They did, though, completely miss the fact that Maness had been ejected (as did Matheny), something that Len and JD identified as soon as it happened.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 08, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

I really want to hear it, but don't know what you were listening to. I can't find the endless butthurt. The two TV guys were iffy on it, but no real butthurt. Both radio guys thought it was fair.

I was watching the FSN Midwest feed. It was pretty amusing, they both said it was obviously foul to begin with, then retracted their statements once it the initial replay was obviously fair or at worst too close to call.

Then the Cubs took the lead and through the subsequent innings there was a slow build until that call became second only to Denkinger. The initial reaction was admittedly tame.

When I got to that part of the game, I switched feeds so I could listen to it.  One of them said it was fair, and subsequently changed his mind to foul, and the other said it was foul, and subsequently changed his mind to fair.  In any event, I thought butthurt was disappointingly thin on the ground.  They did, though, completely miss the fact that Maness had been ejected (as did Matheny), something that Len and JD identified as soon as it happened.

It was pretty fucking satisfying to see them come unglued like that. A borderline call goes the other way and the pitcher gets run in the back end of a doubleheader in which they're starting a pair of slapdick bums. Not a good look. The new pitcher comes in and gets the double play ball he needs, which he proceeds to fire into centerfield to give the Cubs the lead and allow a big inning. Was that a momentum shift of sorts? I don't fucking know. It would be awesome if young players looked at that and realized that the Cardinals are capable of being awful at the wrong time too and it translated into something tangible down the line. It probably only translated into a third victory out of 12 games. But it was fun to watch and think about and fire up the HOT TAKE machine and aim at the Twitbooks and etc.  
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 08, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 08, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

I really want to hear it, but don't know what you were listening to. I can't find the endless butthurt. The two TV guys were iffy on it, but no real butthurt. Both radio guys thought it was fair.

I was watching the FSN Midwest feed. It was pretty amusing, they both said it was obviously foul to begin with, then retracted their statements once it the initial replay was obviously fair or at worst too close to call.

Then the Cubs took the lead and through the subsequent innings there was a slow build until that call became second only to Denkinger. The initial reaction was admittedly tame.

When I got to that part of the game, I switched feeds so I could listen to it.  One of them said it was fair, and subsequently changed his mind to foul, and the other said it was foul, and subsequently changed his mind to fair.  In any event, I thought butthurt was disappointingly thin on the ground.  They did, though, completely miss the fact that Maness had been ejected (as did Matheny), something that Len and JD identified as soon as it happened.

It was pretty fucking satisfying to see them come unglued like that. A borderline call goes the other way and the pitcher gets run in the back end of a doubleheader in which they're starting a pair of slapdick bums. Not a good look. The new pitcher comes in and gets the double play ball he needs, which he proceeds to fire into centerfield to give the Cubs the lead and allow a big inning. Was that a momentum shift of sorts? I don't fucking know. It would be awesome if young players looked at that and realized that the Cardinals are capable of being awful at the wrong time too and it translated into something tangible down the line. It probably only translated into a third victory out of 12 games. But it was fun to watch and think about and fire up the HOT TAKE machine and aim at the Twitbooks and etc.  

Yeah, those first 3 sentences summed up how my thoughts last night.  Things go a little sideways for once and suddenly the Cardinals become unglued like Cubs Twitter.  Very satisfying.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 08, 2015, 11:59:37 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 08, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

I really want to hear it, but don't know what you were listening to. I can't find the endless butthurt. The two TV guys were iffy on it, but no real butthurt. Both radio guys thought it was fair.

I was watching the FSN Midwest feed. It was pretty amusing, they both said it was obviously foul to begin with, then retracted their statements once it the initial replay was obviously fair or at worst too close to call.

Then the Cubs took the lead and through the subsequent innings there was a slow build until that call became second only to Denkinger. The initial reaction was admittedly tame.

When I got to that part of the game, I switched feeds so I could listen to it.  One of them said it was fair, and subsequently changed his mind to foul, and the other said it was foul, and subsequently changed his mind to fair.  In any event, I thought butthurt was disappointingly thin on the ground.  They did, though, completely miss the fact that Maness had been ejected (as did Matheny), something that Len and JD identified as soon as it happened.

It was pretty fucking satisfying to see them come unglued like that. A borderline call goes the other way and the pitcher gets run in the back end of a doubleheader in which they're starting a pair of slapdick bums. Not a good look. The new pitcher comes in and gets the double play ball he needs, which he proceeds to fire into centerfield to give the Cubs the lead and allow a big inning. Was that a momentum shift of sorts? I don't fucking know. It would be awesome if young players looked at that and realized that the Cardinals are capable of being awful at the wrong time too and it translated into something tangible down the line. It probably only translated into a third victory out of 12 games. But it was fun to watch and think about and fire up the HOT TAKE machine and aim at the Twitbooks and etc.  

Yeah, those first 3 sentences summed up how my thoughts last night.  Things go a little sideways for once and suddenly the Cardinals become unglued like Cubs Twitter.  Very satisfying.

Not to mention Maness rhymes with anus, amirite?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on July 08, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 08, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
The Cardinals broadcasters endless butthurt over that Russell single (that was fucking fair) will fuel me for days

I really want to hear it, but don't know what you were listening to. I can't find the endless butthurt. The two TV guys were iffy on it, but no real butthurt. Both radio guys thought it was fair.

I was watching the FSN Midwest feed. It was pretty amusing, they both said it was obviously foul to begin with, then retracted their statements once it the initial replay was obviously fair or at worst too close to call.

Then the Cubs took the lead and through the subsequent innings there was a slow build until that call became second only to Denkinger. The initial reaction was admittedly tame.

When I got to that part of the game, I switched feeds so I could listen to it.  One of them said it was fair, and subsequently changed his mind to foul, and the other said it was foul, and subsequently changed his mind to fair.  In any event, I thought butthurt was disappointingly thin on the ground.  They did, though, completely miss the fact that Maness had been ejected (as did Matheny), something that Len and JD identified as soon as it happened.

It was pretty fucking satisfying to see them come unglued like that. A borderline call goes the other way and the pitcher gets run in the back end of a doubleheader in which they're starting a pair of slapdick bums. Not a good look. The new pitcher comes in and gets the double play ball he needs, which he proceeds to fire into centerfield to give the Cubs the lead and allow a big inning. Was that a momentum shift of sorts? I don't fucking know. It would be awesome if young players looked at that and realized that the Cardinals are capable of being awful at the wrong time too and it translated into something tangible down the line. It probably only translated into a third victory out of 12 games. But it was fun to watch and think about and fire up the HOT TAKE machine and aim at the Twitbooks and etc.  

Yeah, those first 3 sentences summed up how my thoughts last night.  Things go a little sideways for once and suddenly the Cardinals become unglued like Cubs Twitter.  Very satisfying.

A good summation. Probably close to 1000 words on how unfair life and baseball is if you're the St. Louis Cardinals.

https://twitter.com/dgoold/status/618801610593042432
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on July 08, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
I am surprised that no one has commented on the most interesting part of yesterday's activities.  The seventh inning stretch featured Henry Rowengarten singing the seventh inning stretch.  That is usually never my favorite part of a game at Wrigley since the acoustics and the effort to coordinate a song sung by 38000 people don't lend themselves to a very musical event.  Nonetheless, Mr. Thomas did a decent job of singing, whereas most of the celebrities who are called upon to do that either are off key or forget the words, or both.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 08, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
I am surprised that no one has commented on the most interesting part of yesterday's activities.  The seventh inning stretch featured Henry Rowengarten singing the seventh inning stretch.  That is usually never my favorite part of a game at Wrigley since the acoustics and the effort to coordinate a song sung by 38000 people don't lend themselves to a very musical event.  Nonetheless, Mr. Thomas did a decent job of singing, whereas most of the celebrities who are called upon to do that either are off key or forget the words, or both.

You must have missed the part where he sang "Take me out to the ballgame, take me out to the paaaar-."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 08, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 08, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
I am surprised that no one has commented on the most interesting part of yesterday's activities.  The seventh inning stretch featured Henry Rowengarten singing the seventh inning stretch.  That is usually never my favorite part of a game at Wrigley since the acoustics and the effort to coordinate a song sung by 38000 people don't lend themselves to a very musical event.  Nonetheless, Mr. Thomas did a decent job of singing, whereas most of the celebrities who are called upon to do that either are off key or forget the words, or both.

Y'all will be heartened to hear that at some point shortly after the stretch the guy had made it down to my area where he was approached by fans wanting to take pictures with him. At first I didn't know who he was but then gathered he was the guy who had just led the stretch--not that I knew who he was then, either, since I've never seen the movie as I was in my 20's when it came out and thus it missed my radar entirely (conversely, now that I'm a parent of young kids I rarely miss any of these new shitty kids movies). Nevertheless, the congregation around him directly in front of me prompted me to loudly remind everyone trying to get a selfie with the dude that the game was back on and I wished to see it without standing up and causing a ripple effect of every subsequent row behind me doing the same, basically inconveniencing an entire section.  The fans, being the same thoughtless jackholes that would rather take a picture with some C-list celebrity than take in the bottom of the 7th inning of a 1-run game between the Cubs and Cardinals, paid minimal to no attention to my pleas. For his part, however, Henry Whatshisname acknowledged this breach of etiquette and took it upon himself to inform the fans that if they wanted to take a picture they would need to squat down with him so those of us who couldn't give two shits about him could watch the game that we dragged our families down to the park and paid money for to watch.  

This Moment in Meatball History has been brought to you by Budweiser.  You're welcome.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 08, 2015, 12:54:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 08, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
I am surprised that no one has commented on the most interesting part of yesterday's activities.  The seventh inning stretch featured Henry Rowengarten singing the seventh inning stretch.  That is usually never my favorite part of a game at Wrigley since the acoustics and the effort to coordinate a song sung by 38000 people don't lend themselves to a very musical event.  Nonetheless, Mr. Thomas did a decent job of singing, whereas most of the celebrities who are called upon to do that either are off key or forget the words, or both.

Y'all will be heartened to hear that at some point shortly after the stretch the guy had made it down to my area where he was approached by fans wanting to take pictures with him. At first I didn't know who he was but then gathered he was the guy who had just led the stretch--not that I knew who he was then, either, since I've never seen the movie as I was in my 20's when it came out and thus it missed my radar entirely (conversely, now that I'm a parent of young kids I rarely miss any of these new shitty kids movies). Nevertheless, the congregation around him directly in front of me prompted me to loudly remind everyone trying to get a selfie with the dude that the game was back on and I wished to see it without standing up and causing a ripple effect of every subsequent row behind me doing the same, basically inconveniencing an entire section.  The fans, being the same thoughtless jackholes that would rather take a picture with some C-list celebrity than take in the bottom of the 7th inning of a 1-run game between the Cubs and Cardinals, paid minimal to no attention to my pleas. For his part, however, Henry Whatshisname acknowledged this breach of etiquette and took it upon himself to inform the fans that if they wanted to take a picture they would need to squat down with him so those of us who couldn't give two shits about him could watch the game that we dragged our families down to the park and paid money for to watch.  

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As a side note, last week my wife was driving in Staten Island and told some numbnuts in another car to "PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION!"
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2015, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 08, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
I am surprised that no one has commented on the most interesting part of yesterday's activities.  The seventh inning stretch featured Henry Rowengarten singing the seventh inning stretch.  That is usually never my favorite part of a game at Wrigley since the acoustics and the effort to coordinate a song sung by 38000 people don't lend themselves to a very musical event.  Nonetheless, Mr. Thomas did a decent job of singing, whereas most of the celebrities who are called upon to do that either are off key or forget the words, or both.

Y'all will be heartened to hear that at some point shortly after the stretch the guy had made it down to my area where he was approached by fans wanting to take pictures with him. At first I didn't know who he was but then gathered he was the guy who had just led the stretch--not that I knew who he was then, either, since I've never seen the movie as I was in my 20's when it came out and thus it missed my radar entirely (conversely, now that I'm a parent of young kids I rarely miss any of these new shitty kids movies). Nevertheless, the congregation around him directly in front of me prompted me to loudly remind everyone trying to get a selfie with the dude that the game was back on and I wished to see it without standing up and causing a ripple effect of every subsequent row behind me doing the same, basically inconveniencing an entire section.  The fans, being the same thoughtless jackholes that would rather take a picture with some C-list celebrity than take in the bottom of the 7th inning of a 1-run game between the Cubs and Cardinals, paid minimal to no attention to my pleas. For his part, however, Henry Whatshisname acknowledged this breach of etiquette and took it upon himself to inform the fans that if they wanted to take a picture they would need to squat down with him so those of us who couldn't give two shits about him could watch the game that we dragged our families down to the park and paid money for to watch.  

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That's the stuff!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 08, 2015, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 08, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
I am surprised that no one has commented on the most interesting part of yesterday's activities.  The seventh inning stretch featured Henry Rowengarten singing the seventh inning stretch.  That is usually never my favorite part of a game at Wrigley since the acoustics and the effort to coordinate a song sung by 38000 people don't lend themselves to a very musical event.  Nonetheless, Mr. Thomas did a decent job of singing, whereas most of the celebrities who are called upon to do that either are off key or forget the words, or both.

Y'all will be heartened to hear that at some point shortly after the stretch the guy had made it down to my area where he was approached by fans wanting to take pictures with him. At first I didn't know who he was but then gathered he was the guy who had just led the stretch--not that I knew who he was then, either, since I've never seen the movie as I was in my 20's when it came out and thus it missed my radar entirely (conversely, now that I'm a parent of young kids I rarely miss any of these new shitty kids movies). Nevertheless, the congregation around him directly in front of me prompted me to loudly remind everyone trying to get a selfie with the dude that the game was back on and I wished to see it without standing up and causing a ripple effect of every subsequent row behind me doing th same, basically inconveniencing an entire section.  The fans, being the same thoughtless jackholes that would rather take a picture with some C-list celebrity than take in the bottom of the 7th inning of a 1-run game between the Cubs and Cardinals, paid minimal to no attention to my pleas. For his part, however, Henry Whatshisname acknowledged this breach of etiquette and took it upon himself to inform the fans that if they wanted to take a picture they would need to squat down with him so those of us who couldn't give two shits about him could watch the game that we dragged our families down to the park and paid money for to watch. 

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I grew up in the golden age of baseball movies for kids. Sandlot and Rookie of the Year came out when I was 5, then Little Big League and Angels in the Outfield came out the next year. I loved all of those movies and other than Sandlot (which totally holds up) I haven't watched any of them since I was a kid so as not to taint my fond memory of them.

That said, I couldn't give a shit about getting a picture with that dude and would have yelled down in front along with you, my meatball elder.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Richard Chuggar on July 08, 2015, 12:59:42 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 08, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
I am surprised that no one has commented on the most interesting part of yesterday's activities.  The seventh inning stretch featured Henry Rowengarten singing the seventh inning stretch.  That is usually never my favorite part of a game at Wrigley since the acoustics and the effort to coordinate a song sung by 38000 people don't lend themselves to a very musical event.  Nonetheless, Mr. Thomas did a decent job of singing, whereas most of the celebrities who are called upon to do that either are off key or forget the words, or both.

Y'all will be heartened to hear that at some point shortly after the stretch the guy had made it down to my area where he was approached by fans wanting to take pictures with him. At first I didn't know who he was but then gathered he was the guy who had just led the stretch--not that I knew who he was then, either, since I've never seen the movie as I was in my 20's when it came out and thus it missed my radar entirely (conversely, now that I'm a parent of young kids I rarely miss any of these new shitty kids movies). Nevertheless, the congregation around him directly in front of me prompted me to loudly remind everyone trying to get a selfie with the dude that the game was back on and I wished to see it without standing up and causing a ripple effect of every subsequent row behind me doing the same, basically inconveniencing an entire section.  The fans, being the same thoughtless jackholes that would rather take a picture with some C-list celebrity than take in the bottom of the 7th inning of a 1-run game between the Cubs and Cardinals, paid minimal to no attention to my pleas. For his part, however, Henry Whatshisname acknowledged this breach of etiquette and took it upon himself to inform the fans that if they wanted to take a picture they would need to squat down with him so those of us who couldn't give two shits about him could watch the game that we dragged our families down to the park and paid money for to watch.  

This Moment in Meatball History has been brought to you by Budweiser.  You're welcome.

You never saw any of the American Pie movies?  I find that hard to believe.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 08, 2015, 01:12:22 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 08, 2015, 12:59:42 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 08, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
I am surprised that no one has commented on the most interesting part of yesterday's activities.  The seventh inning stretch featured Henry Rowengarten singing the seventh inning stretch.  That is usually never my favorite part of a game at Wrigley since the acoustics and the effort to coordinate a song sung by 38000 people don't lend themselves to a very musical event.  Nonetheless, Mr. Thomas did a decent job of singing, whereas most of the celebrities who are called upon to do that either are off key or forget the words, or both.

Y'all will be heartened to hear that at some point shortly after the stretch the guy had made it down to my area where he was approached by fans wanting to take pictures with him. At first I didn't know who he was but then gathered he was the guy who had just led the stretch--not that I knew who he was then, either, since I've never seen the movie as I was in my 20's when it came out and thus it missed my radar entirely (conversely, now that I'm a parent of young kids I rarely miss any of these new shitty kids movies). Nevertheless, the congregation around him directly in front of me prompted me to loudly remind everyone trying to get a selfie with the dude that the game was back on and I wished to see it without standing up and causing a ripple effect of every subsequent row behind me doing the same, basically inconveniencing an entire section.  The fans, being the same thoughtless jackholes that would rather take a picture with some C-list celebrity than take in the bottom of the 7th inning of a 1-run game between the Cubs and Cardinals, paid minimal to no attention to my pleas. For his part, however, Henry Whatshisname acknowledged this breach of etiquette and took it upon himself to inform the fans that if they wanted to take a picture they would need to squat down with him so those of us who couldn't give two shits about him could watch the game that we dragged our families down to the park and paid money for to watch.  

This Moment in Meatball History has been brought to you by Budweiser.  You're welcome.

You never saw any of the American Pie movies?  I find that hard to believe.

American Pie was a kids' move?  Man, no wonder your generation's so fucked up.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on July 08, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I've neither seen any of the American Pie movies nor ever had a desire to. I doubt either of these will change.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 08, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I've neither seen any of the American Pie movies nor ever had a desire to. I doubt either of these will change.

I've never seen any Fast and Furious or Bourne Identity or Spiderman movies. This makes me a superior human being to all those who have. But the first American Pie isn't bad. If you get stuck watching it you may laugh.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on July 08, 2015, 04:20:54 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 08, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I've neither seen any of the American Pie movies nor ever had a desire to. I doubt either of these will change.

I've never seen any Fast and Furious or Bourne Identity or Spiderman movies. This makes me a superior human being to all those who have. But the first American Pie isn't bad. If you get stuck watching it you may laugh.

Out of all of these, I have only seen all 5 Spider-Man movies. Of which, if you add up the positive moments across the board, a cumulative total of slightly over two are pretty good.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 08, 2015, 04:27:38 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 08, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I've neither seen any of the American Pie movies nor ever had a desire to. I doubt either of these will change.

I've never seen any Fast and Furious or Bourne Identity or Spiderman movies. This makes me a superior human being to all those who have. But the first American Pie isn't bad. If you get stuck watching it you may laugh.

Same. Never saw any variations of those first 3 but I saw American Pie and thought it was funny. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 08, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I've neither seen any of the American Pie movies nor ever had a desire to. I doubt either of these will change.

I've never seen any Fast and Furious or Bourne Identity or Spiderman movies. This makes me a superior human being to all those who have. But the first American Pie isn't bad. If you get stuck watching it you may laugh.

I think I've seen three of the Fast & Furious movies and all of the Bourne/Spiderman franchises. If those are your yardstick for bad human beings ... well, I've seen a lot worse.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on July 08, 2015, 05:15:19 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 08, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I've neither seen any of the American Pie movies nor ever had a desire to. I doubt either of these will change.

I've never seen any Fast and Furious or Bourne Identity or Spiderman movies. This makes me a superior human being to all those who have. But the first American Pie isn't bad. If you get stuck watching it you may laugh.

I think I've seen three of the Fast & Furious movies and all of the Bourne/Spiderman franchises. If those are your yardstick for bad human beings ... well, I've seen a lot worse.

"The Bourne Ultimatum" is fucking excellent.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 08, 2015, 06:45:25 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2015, 05:15:19 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 08, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 08, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I've neither seen any of the American Pie movies nor ever had a desire to. I doubt either of these will change.

I've never seen any Fast and Furious or Bourne Identity or Spiderman movies. This makes me a superior human being to all those who have. But the first American Pie isn't bad. If you get stuck watching it you may laugh.

I think I've seen three of the Fast & Furious movies and all of the Bourne/Spiderman franchises. If those are your yardstick for bad human beings ... well, I've seen a lot worse.

"The Bourne Ultimatum" is fucking excellent.

Matt Damon Bourne is fine. Needed more Franka Potente.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 08, 2015, 07:32:28 PM
I have also seen several movies in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on July 08, 2015, 09:24:12 PM

Two players and the manager thrown out over the last two games?

Buy stock in Desitin.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 08, 2015, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 09:24:12 PM

Two players and the manager thrown out over the last two games?

Buy stock in Desitin.


Another satisfying episode of "When Cardinals Become Unhinged".

I could get used to this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 08, 2015, 10:08:15 PM
I just remembered that I hate baseball
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CubFaninHydePark on July 08, 2015, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 08, 2015, 10:08:15 PM
I just remembered that I hate baseball

I just remembered that I hate the ever useless Starlin Fucking Castro...and gutless fucking replay umps who can't see a ball that clearly landed on a fucking white line.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on July 08, 2015, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 08, 2015, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 09:24:12 PM

Two players and the manager thrown out over the last two games?

Buy stock in Desitin.


Another satisfying episode of "When Cardinals Become Unhinged".

I could get used to this.

If your dad ever finds this place he is gonna kick your ass.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 08, 2015, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on July 08, 2015, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 08, 2015, 10:08:15 PM
I just remembered that I hate baseball

I just remembered that I hate the ever useless Starlin Fucking Castro...and gutless fucking replay umps who can't see a ball that clearly landed on a fucking white line.

I think you need a new TV: it was definitely foul.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on July 08, 2015, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 08, 2015, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on July 08, 2015, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 08, 2015, 10:08:15 PM
I just remembered that I hate baseball

I just remembered that I hate the ever useless Starlin Fucking Castro...and gutless fucking replay umps who can't see a ball that clearly landed on a fucking white line.

I think you need a new TV: it was definitely foul.

Yeah. Wet conditions so there wouldn't be much chalk flying up, but that was not "clearly" on the line.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 09, 2015, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

This has given me the strength to go on after this loss. Thank you.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.

They've played 35 of their last 54 vs teams that I would say are contenders (Pirates/Mets/Nats/Royals/Tigers/Twins/Dodgers/Cardinals). This was the murder stretch everyone feared and they came out of it 8 games over .500 and 3 up on the wildcard with 20 straight and 26 of their next 32 vs crap teams. Most importantly they're finally scoring some runs.

Just hope Hammel is okay. Hopefully by the next time they face the Cards again in September they'll have to deal with Schwarber and Baez along with a fully armed and operational Rizzo/Bryant/Soler/Russell foursome.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 09, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.

They've played 35 of their last 54 vs teams that I would say are contenders (Pirates/Mets/Nats/Royals/Tigers/Twins/Dodgers/Cardinals). This was the murder stretch everyone feared and they came out of it 8 games over .500 and 3 up on the wildcard with 20 straight and 26 of their next 32 vs crap teams. Most importantly they're finally scoring some runs.

Just hope Hammel is okay. Hopefully by the next time they face the Cards again in September they'll have to deal with Schwarber and Baez along with a fully armed and operational Rizzo/Bryant/Soler/Russell foursome.

There's not enough positive in the world for Russell's AB in the 9th.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.

They've played 35 of their last 54 vs teams that I would say are contenders (Pirates/Mets/Nats/Royals/Tigers/Twins/Dodgers/Cardinals). This was the murder stretch everyone feared and they came out of it 8 games over .500 and 3 up on the wildcard with 20 straight and 26 of their next 32 vs crap teams. Most importantly they're finally scoring some runs.

Just hope Hammel is okay. Hopefully by the next time they face the Cards again in September they'll have to deal with Schwarber and Baez along with a fully armed and operational Rizzo/Bryant/Soler/Russell foursome.

There's not enough positive in the world for Russell's AB in the 9th.

Just a damn shame neither of the two hard-hit balls preceding that at-bat were able to avoid leather.

But yeah, here's hoping Russell's month-long descent toward a .220 average has ended.  He's been hitting the ball with a lot more authority the last few days.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.

They've played 35 of their last 54 vs teams that I would say are contenders (Pirates/Mets/Nats/Royals/Tigers/Twins/Dodgers/Cardinals). This was the murder stretch everyone feared and they came out of it 8 games over .500 and 3 up on the wildcard with 20 straight and 26 of their next 32 vs crap teams. Most importantly they're finally scoring some runs.

Just hope Hammel is okay. Hopefully by the next time they face the Cards again in September they'll have to deal with Schwarber and Baez along with a fully armed and operational Rizzo/Bryant/Soler/Russell foursome.

There's not enough positive in the world for Russell's AB in the 9th.

Just a damn shame neither of the two hard-hit balls preceding that at-bat were able to avoid leather.

But yeah, here's hoping Russell's month-long descent toward a .220 average has ended.  He's been hitting the ball with a lot more authority the last few days.

There's a troll who tweets at me a lot. Like, literally every time I say something about the Cubs. It started after I responded to one of the many times I saw that Matt Clapp fellow respond to one of the troll tweets this guy apparently sends to him daily. Anyway, this guy called it a "bullshit excuse" to say Russell's struggles are acceptable because he's a 21 year old rookie.

Sahedev also complained about people flooding his mentions, bitching about Addison Russell. I should probably just block that troll, though I generally hate blocking anyone because it seems so Yellonish, but man, does it irritate me there are idiots in this world that can't deal with a rookie struggling for a damn month.

Even that Ivy Drip fellow said that it's "too bad that Alcantara can't fix his offensive issues at Iowa or he'd be taking some of Addison's at bats, or all of them" the other night. That just seems absurd to me. No one thinks Arismendy could be a better player than Addison. The best future for the Cubs is one where Addison is starting every day for them. Whenever he started he was inevitably going to struggle at some point, so why not get said struggles out of the way right now? Much as it hurts to watch him flail away, they're still leading in a playoff spot. I feel like it would hurt worse for him to be going through his rookie struggles next year.

Anyway, TL; DR: I need to find a better way of tuning out idiots.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 09:08:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.

They've played 35 of their last 54 vs teams that I would say are contenders (Pirates/Mets/Nats/Royals/Tigers/Twins/Dodgers/Cardinals). This was the murder stretch everyone feared and they came out of it 8 games over .500 and 3 up on the wildcard with 20 straight and 26 of their next 32 vs crap teams. Most importantly they're finally scoring some runs.

Just hope Hammel is okay. Hopefully by the next time they face the Cards again in September they'll have to deal with Schwarber and Baez along with a fully armed and operational Rizzo/Bryant/Soler/Russell foursome.

There's not enough positive in the world for Russell's AB in the 9th.

Just a damn shame neither of the two hard-hit balls preceding that at-bat were able to avoid leather.

But yeah, here's hoping Russell's month-long descent toward a .220 average has ended.  He's been hitting the ball with a lot more authority the last few days.

There's a troll who tweets at me a lot. Like, literally every time I say something about the Cubs. It started after I responded to one of the many times I saw that Matt Clapp fellow respond to one of the troll tweets this guy apparently sends to him daily. Anyway, this guy called it a "bullshit excuse" to say Russell's struggles are acceptable because he's a 21 year old rookie.

Sahedev also complained about people flooding his mentions, bitching about Addison Russell. I should probably just block that troll, though I generally hate blocking anyone because it seems so Yellonish, but man, does it irritate me there are idiots in this world that can't deal with a rookie struggling for a damn month.

Even that Ivy Drip fellow said that it's "too bad that Alcantara can't fix his offensive issues at Iowa or he'd be taking some of Addison's at bats, or all of them" the other night.
That just seems absurd to me. No one thinks Arismendy could be a better player than Addison. The best future for the Cubs is one where Addison is starting every day for them. Whenever he started he was inevitably going to struggle at some point, so why not get said struggles out of the way right now? Much as it hurts to watch him flail away, they're still leading in a playoff spot. I feel like it would hurt worse for him to be going through his rookie struggles next year.

Anyway, TL; DR: I need to find a better way of tuning out idiots.

That's colossally dumb.  Why wouldn't you just say "too bad Russell can't fix his offensive issues..."?  It's the whole "if the queen had the balls she'd be king" pointless exercise in rhetorical masturbation but if you're going to go down that rabbit hole, why factor in Alcantara at all?  Dumb.

I'd say Sam should stick to hockey but he's the same guy who wrote off the Blackhawks 100 days before they were hoisting the Cup so I guess overreacting has become his thing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 09:08:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.

They've played 35 of their last 54 vs teams that I would say are contenders (Pirates/Mets/Nats/Royals/Tigers/Twins/Dodgers/Cardinals). This was the murder stretch everyone feared and they came out of it 8 games over .500 and 3 up on the wildcard with 20 straight and 26 of their next 32 vs crap teams. Most importantly they're finally scoring some runs.

Just hope Hammel is okay. Hopefully by the next time they face the Cards again in September they'll have to deal with Schwarber and Baez along with a fully armed and operational Rizzo/Bryant/Soler/Russell foursome.

There's not enough positive in the world for Russell's AB in the 9th.

Just a damn shame neither of the two hard-hit balls preceding that at-bat were able to avoid leather.

But yeah, here's hoping Russell's month-long descent toward a .220 average has ended.  He's been hitting the ball with a lot more authority the last few days.

There's a troll who tweets at me a lot. Like, literally every time I say something about the Cubs. It started after I responded to one of the many times I saw that Matt Clapp fellow respond to one of the troll tweets this guy apparently sends to him daily. Anyway, this guy called it a "bullshit excuse" to say Russell's struggles are acceptable because he's a 21 year old rookie.

Sahedev also complained about people flooding his mentions, bitching about Addison Russell. I should probably just block that troll, though I generally hate blocking anyone because it seems so Yellonish, but man, does it irritate me there are idiots in this world that can't deal with a rookie struggling for a damn month.

Even that Ivy Drip fellow said that it's "too bad that Alcantara can't fix his offensive issues at Iowa or he'd be taking some of Addison's at bats, or all of them" the other night.
That just seems absurd to me. No one thinks Arismendy could be a better player than Addison. The best future for the Cubs is one where Addison is starting every day for them. Whenever he started he was inevitably going to struggle at some point, so why not get said struggles out of the way right now? Much as it hurts to watch him flail away, they're still leading in a playoff spot. I feel like it would hurt worse for him to be going through his rookie struggles next year.

Anyway, TL; DR: I need to find a better way of tuning out idiots.

That's colossally dumb.  Why wouldn't you just say "too bad Russell can't fix his offensive issues..."?  It's the whole "if the queen had the balls she'd be king" pointless exercise in rhetorical masturbation but if you're going to go down that rabbit hole, why factor in Alcantara at all?  Dumb.

I'd say Sam should stick to hockey but he's the same guy who wrote off the Blackhawks 100 days before they were hoisting the Cup so I guess overreacting has become his thing.

I mean I guess what he was saying is "maybe if Mendy could have hit enough to keep Addison in AAA a little longer he wouldn't be going through this" but honestly most guys who aren't Kris Bryant (and even he's had some multi-week rough patches) would still have these struggles even with AAA seasoning. I don't think Russell wasn't ready, I just think he's working on things that can only be worked on by facing major league pitchers on a daily basis.  
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 09:21:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 09:08:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.

They've played 35 of their last 54 vs teams that I would say are contenders (Pirates/Mets/Nats/Royals/Tigers/Twins/Dodgers/Cardinals). This was the murder stretch everyone feared and they came out of it 8 games over .500 and 3 up on the wildcard with 20 straight and 26 of their next 32 vs crap teams. Most importantly they're finally scoring some runs.

Just hope Hammel is okay. Hopefully by the next time they face the Cards again in September they'll have to deal with Schwarber and Baez along with a fully armed and operational Rizzo/Bryant/Soler/Russell foursome.

There's not enough positive in the world for Russell's AB in the 9th.

Just a damn shame neither of the two hard-hit balls preceding that at-bat were able to avoid leather.

But yeah, here's hoping Russell's month-long descent toward a .220 average has ended.  He's been hitting the ball with a lot more authority the last few days.

There's a troll who tweets at me a lot. Like, literally every time I say something about the Cubs. It started after I responded to one of the many times I saw that Matt Clapp fellow respond to one of the troll tweets this guy apparently sends to him daily. Anyway, this guy called it a "bullshit excuse" to say Russell's struggles are acceptable because he's a 21 year old rookie.

Sahedev also complained about people flooding his mentions, bitching about Addison Russell. I should probably just block that troll, though I generally hate blocking anyone because it seems so Yellonish, but man, does it irritate me there are idiots in this world that can't deal with a rookie struggling for a damn month.

Even that Ivy Drip fellow said that it's "too bad that Alcantara can't fix his offensive issues at Iowa or he'd be taking some of Addison's at bats, or all of them" the other night.
That just seems absurd to me. No one thinks Arismendy could be a better player than Addison. The best future for the Cubs is one where Addison is starting every day for them. Whenever he started he was inevitably going to struggle at some point, so why not get said struggles out of the way right now? Much as it hurts to watch him flail away, they're still leading in a playoff spot. I feel like it would hurt worse for him to be going through his rookie struggles next year.

Anyway, TL; DR: I need to find a better way of tuning out idiots.

That's colossally dumb.  Why wouldn't you just say "too bad Russell can't fix his offensive issues..."?  It's the whole "if the queen had the balls she'd be king" pointless exercise in rhetorical masturbation but if you're going to go down that rabbit hole, why factor in Alcantara at all?  Dumb.

I'd say Sam should stick to hockey but he's the same guy who wrote off the Blackhawks 100 days before they were hoisting the Cup so I guess overreacting has become his thing.

I mean I guess what he was saying is "maybe if Mendy could have hit enough to keep Addison in AAA a little longer he wouldn't be going through this" but honestly most guys who aren't Kris Bryant (and even he's had some multi-week rough patches) would still have these struggles even with AAA seasoning. I don't think Russell wasn't ready, I just think he's working on things that can only be worked on by facing major league pitchers on a daily basis.  

Agreed, and I think this is being proven by how he's been hitting the last few days.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 09, 2015, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 09:08:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 09, 2015, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

I'm gonna say I do. They could have had that game last night but that shit just happens. It happens against all teams. I remember some no name dickhead on the Pirates doing it to us not that long ago so if it's going to be Peralta, a guy who can actually hit - what are you going to say about it?

It sucked but a split was a good thing and now they can really sink their teeth into the soft part of the schedule - while the Pirates tear up that ass.

They've played 35 of their last 54 vs teams that I would say are contenders (Pirates/Mets/Nats/Royals/Tigers/Twins/Dodgers/Cardinals). This was the murder stretch everyone feared and they came out of it 8 games over .500 and 3 up on the wildcard with 20 straight and 26 of their next 32 vs crap teams. Most importantly they're finally scoring some runs.

Just hope Hammel is okay. Hopefully by the next time they face the Cards again in September they'll have to deal with Schwarber and Baez along with a fully armed and operational Rizzo/Bryant/Soler/Russell foursome.

There's not enough positive in the world for Russell's AB in the 9th.

Just a damn shame neither of the two hard-hit balls preceding that at-bat were able to avoid leather.

But yeah, here's hoping Russell's month-long descent toward a .220 average has ended.  He's been hitting the ball with a lot more authority the last few days.

There's a troll who tweets at me a lot. Like, literally every time I say something about the Cubs. It started after I responded to one of the many times I saw that Matt Clapp fellow respond to one of the troll tweets this guy apparently sends to him daily. Anyway, this guy called it a "bullshit excuse" to say Russell's struggles are acceptable because he's a 21 year old rookie.

Sahedev also complained about people flooding his mentions, bitching about Addison Russell. I should probably just block that troll, though I generally hate blocking anyone because it seems so Yellonish, but man, does it irritate me there are idiots in this world that can't deal with a rookie struggling for a damn month.

Even that Ivy Drip fellow said that it's "too bad that Alcantara can't fix his offensive issues at Iowa or he'd be taking some of Addison's at bats, or all of them" the other night.
That just seems absurd to me. No one thinks Arismendy could be a better player than Addison. The best future for the Cubs is one where Addison is starting every day for them. Whenever he started he was inevitably going to struggle at some point, so why not get said struggles out of the way right now? Much as it hurts to watch him flail away, they're still leading in a playoff spot. I feel like it would hurt worse for him to be going through his rookie struggles next year.

Anyway, TL; DR: I need to find a better way of tuning out idiots.

That's colossally dumb.  Why wouldn't you just say "too bad Russell can't fix his offensive issues..."?  It's the whole "if the queen had the balls she'd be king" pointless exercise in rhetorical masturbation but if you're going to go down that rabbit hole, why factor in Alcantara at all?  Dumb.

I'd say Sam should stick to hockey but he's the same guy who wrote off the Blackhawks 100 days before they were hoisting the Cup so I guess overreacting has become his thing.

He has me & Slak writing about 2 different sports for him, so how smart can he possibly be?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

Wait, why would you pitch around the fuckhead who OPS'd .577 in June and .459 so far in July? That guy is exactly who you should have gone right after.

Oh, wait, I forgot:

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
An at bat against Matt Carpenter is more stressful than at bat against Kris Bryant
You might wanna see a therapist over this weird Carp fascination.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

Wait, why would you pitch around the fuckhead who OPS'd .577 in June and .459 so far in July? That guy is exactly who you should have gone right after.

Oh, wait, I forgot:

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
An at bat against Matt Carpenter is more stressful than at bat against Kris Bryant
You might wanna see a therapist over this weird Carp fascination.

Way too much on the agenda already. Doubtful we'd get to it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

Wait, why would you pitch around the fuckhead who OPS'd .577 in June and .459 so far in July? That guy is exactly who you should have gone right after.

Oh, wait, I forgot:

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
An at bat against Matt Carpenter is more stressful than at bat against Kris Bryant
You might wanna see a therapist over this weird Carp fascination.

Way too much on the agenda already. Doubtful we'd get to it.

It's okay, I mostly just wanted an excuse to re-use that quote, because it will presumably never stop being funny to me. In fact, it should only get funnier as the years go by when Kris Bryant is remembered with the A-Rods, Mike Trouts, Mike Schmidts, and Troy Glauses of the world and Matt Carpenter is forgotten like some common Chad Tracy except for when I pull that quote.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 10:57:34 AM
I was with Apex in that watching a Matt Carpenter at-bat is akin to taking one's ball sack under a power sander (unless you're into that sort of thing).  However, I've also noticed he's not been the same hitter lately.  My irrational fear of Carpenter died a little when I was in attendance Tuesday night and Motte had put the first two runners on in front of him.  I was very dreadful of Carpenter, preparing for some serious DOOM at that moment but he immediately hit a pop foul for the first out so I'm starting to think (hope?) the bloom is off that fucking gritty rose.  Pitch to him, asshole!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 09, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

Wait, why would you pitch around the fuckhead who OPS'd .577 in June and .459 so far in July? That guy is exactly who you should have gone right after.

Oh, wait, I forgot:

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
An at bat against Matt Carpenter is more stressful than at bat against Kris Bryant
You might wanna see a therapist over this weird Carp fascination.

Well, he IS a really awesome hitter. He's coming back from that weird fatigue thing so he's struggled (and I would've preferred they went right after him last night, too), but Apex is still basically right.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 11:17:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

Wait, why would you pitch around the fuckhead who OPS'd .577 in June and .459 so far in July? That guy is exactly who you should have gone right after.

Oh, wait, I forgot:

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
An at bat against Matt Carpenter is more stressful than at bat against Kris Bryant
You might wanna see a therapist over this weird Carp fascination.

Well, he IS a really awesome hitter. He's coming back from that weird fatigue thing so he's struggled (and I would've preferred they went right after him last night, too), but Apex is still basically right.

I guess I wouldn't advocate blatantly pitching around him. I don't think that's what Strop actually did either. I think he was extremely careful and tried to nibble, missed and ended up walking him on four pitches. Which, I actually wasn't happy about, but not so much for the decision but the fact that OF COURSE that stonefaced fuck didn't offer at any one of the pitches he saw.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

Wait, why would you pitch around the fuckhead who OPS'd .577 in June and .459 so far in July? That guy is exactly who you should have gone right after.

Oh, wait, I forgot:

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
An at bat against Matt Carpenter is more stressful than at bat against Kris Bryant
You might wanna see a therapist over this weird Carp fascination.

Well, he IS a really awesome hitter. He's coming back from that weird fatigue thing so he's struggled (and I would've preferred they went right after him last night, too), but Apex is still basically right.

He has a career OPS of .809, he's 29 years old and last year he had an OPS of .750. His career line vs the Cubs is .251/.358/.381/.739 with 5 home runs and 13 doubles in 69 games. This is some "Ty Wiggington always kills the Cubs"esque bullshit right here.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

Wait, why would you pitch around the fuckhead who OPS'd .577 in June and .459 so far in July? That guy is exactly who you should have gone right after.

Oh, wait, I forgot:

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
An at bat against Matt Carpenter is more stressful than at bat against Kris Bryant
You might wanna see a therapist over this weird Carp fascination.

Well, he IS a really awesome hitter. He's coming back from that weird fatigue thing so he's struggled (and I would've preferred they went right after him last night, too), but Apex is still basically right.

He has a career OPS of .809, he's 29 years old and last year he had an OPS of .750. His career line vs the Cubs is .251/.358/.381/.739 with 5 home runs and 13 doubles in 69 games. This is some "Ty Wiggington always kills the Cubs"esque bullshit right here.

Except Ty Wiggington never actually killed the Cubs whereas Carpenter has.

However, your point is taken.  It's very possible Carpenter is just a guy who had a short  peak and can be expected to suck from here on out.  I'd like that.  I'd like that a lot.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:29:57 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 09, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 08, 2015, 10:26:56 PM

Despite the nut-punch tell me that you don't feel better about this team and where they are in relation to the Cardinals after this series.

The Cubs lost their starter after one inning, had to scrap back against Wacha and only a bad Strop outing kept it from being a huge win.

Yeah, I would have loved this one in the left column, but the Cards should have slammed the door shut on this one a lot earlier.

I know it's my job to be a Strop apologist but that pitch Peralta put in the basket wasn't even a strike. Yes, Pedro overthrew the fastball and missed his spot by two feet. But as Borb would say, he missed in his favor. Peralta guessed right on a fastball and roided one up in his man boobs barely out of the yard. The walk to Carp? In a one run game, I'd pitch around that bastard too. But shit ... I tip my cap to the Cardinals clubhouse chemist and move on from this, my Strop boner only slightly deflated but still plump enough to bat around a pinata to little avail.

Wait, why would you pitch around the fuckhead who OPS'd .577 in June and .459 so far in July? That guy is exactly who you should have gone right after.

Oh, wait, I forgot:

Quote from: InternetApex on May 11, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
An at bat against Matt Carpenter is more stressful than at bat against Kris Bryant
You might wanna see a therapist over this weird Carp fascination.

Well, he IS a really awesome hitter. He's coming back from that weird fatigue thing so he's struggled (and I would've preferred they went right after him last night, too), but Apex is still basically right.

He has a career OPS of .809, he's 29 years old and last year he had an OPS of .750. His career line vs the Cubs is .251/.358/.381/.739 with 5 home runs and 13 doubles in 69 games. This is some "Ty Wiggington always kills the Cubs"esque bullshit right here.

Except Ty Wiggington never actually killed the Cubs whereas Carpenter has.

However, your point is taken.  It's very possible Carpenter is just a guy who had a short  peak and can be expected to suck from here on out.  I'd like that.  I'd like that a lot.

I'm saying a guy who hits 70 points below his career OPS (an OPS that's merely pretty good) vs your team is not a "Cub killer". You probably remember all of his soul crushing hits more because A) He's a Cardinal and B) they happened for the Cardinals vs the Cubs, but he's in no way very good at anything. I'll not sit here while you all fellate the next Chris Stynes as something special. I won't do it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:38:01 AM
Carpenter is hitting .133/.245/.222/.468 against the Cubs this year alone, but I guess one of his hits is a homer, so he's Barry Bonds.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
He has a career OPS of .809, he's 29 years old and last year he had an OPS of .750. His career line vs the Cubs is .251/.358/.381/.739 with 5 home runs and 13 doubles in 69 games. This is some "Ty Wiggington always kills the Cubs"esque bullshit right here.

He has a weird career arc in that he started so late, but he's been worth 11 wins in his only two full MLB seasons. I'm not saying he's Barry Bonds, just that he's a good hitter.

You're being weird about this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 12:08:57 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
He has a career OPS of .809, he's 29 years old and last year he had an OPS of .750. His career line vs the Cubs is .251/.358/.381/.739 with 5 home runs and 13 doubles in 69 games. This is some "Ty Wiggington always kills the Cubs"esque bullshit right here.

He has a weird career arc in that he started so late, but he's been worth 11 wins in his only two full MLB seasons. I'm not saying he's Barry Bonds, just that he's a good hitter.

You're being weird about this.

Yes, he is. And I am too probably. But more than his hits against the Cubs, which came mostly when the Cubs weren't trying to compete, I recall his postseason success, which also gave me all the bad feels. I hope he continues to struggle this year and every year but I think he'll be an .800+ OPS player for the next several years. That's not scary good but he puts together terrific at bats and it doesn't seem to matter who he's facing. Kershaw or whoever.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
He has a career OPS of .809, he's 29 years old and last year he had an OPS of .750. His career line vs the Cubs is .251/.358/.381/.739 with 5 home runs and 13 doubles in 69 games. This is some "Ty Wiggington always kills the Cubs"esque bullshit right here.

He has a weird career arc in that he started so late, but he's been worth 11 wins in his only two full MLB seasons. I'm not saying he's Barry Bonds, just that he's a good hitter.

You're being weird about this.

Probably, but Bryant has had an OPS 50+ points higher than Carpenter's career number since the day he got off of the boat from Iowa. Carpenter's career high in homers is 11. He slugged .375 last year. If we can't agree as a collective to laugh at that time Apex said a pitcher would rather face Kris Bryant than Matt Carpenter then we've crossed the mendoza line for bullshit toleration again.

I don't think Carpenter is bad by any means. He's the ideal shit-fucking Cardinal. Bearded and white and a tough out and great at slapping bloop singles to the opposite field when it matters most. But we should be able to laugh at anyone ever comparing him to Kris Bryant even remotely favorably.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
He has a career OPS of .809, he's 29 years old and last year he had an OPS of .750. His career line vs the Cubs is .251/.358/.381/.739 with 5 home runs and 13 doubles in 69 games. This is some "Ty Wiggington always kills the Cubs"esque bullshit right here.

He has a weird career arc in that he started so late, but he's been worth 11 wins in his only two full MLB seasons. I'm not saying he's Barry Bonds, just that he's a good hitter.

You're being weird about this.

Also, DPD, but this is kinda misleading. He had an undeniably fantastic 2013 but given that his OPS was almost 70 points higher than his career total, and higher than his minor league OPS (.858), I think the 2.9 WAR he was worth last year and the 2.5-3ish WAR he's on pace for this year and would have been on pace for had he played a full season in 2012 is the real dude. 2013 was also his also his only positive year as far as dWAR goes.

He's a nice, irritating player. One of a thousand like him the Cardinals have put out there in my life. But let's laugh at Apex. That's all I'm asking here.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:13:30 PM
2013 was also his also his only positive year as far as dWAR goes.

Right -- which tells you he gets most of his value from his bat.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:13:30 PM
2013 was also his also his only positive year as far as dWAR goes.

Right -- which tells you he gets most of his value from his bat.

Right, and with the exception of 2013 his value has been like, 2.5 wins a year. Which is "pretty decent starter" not "guy we compare to Kris Bryant, like, ever". I'm not objecting to the Carpenter can hit a little part of the statement, I'm objecting to us all being so far gone or so terrifed of that damn Cardinals magic we can't scoff at someone comparing him to Kris Bryant. But I will scoff. I am scoffing right now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:13:30 PM
2013 was also his also his only positive year as far as dWAR goes.

Right -- which tells you he gets most of his value from his bat.

Right, and with the exception of 2013 his value has been like, 2.5 wins a year. Which is "pretty decent starter" not "guy we compare to Kris Bryant, like, ever". I'm not objecting to the Carpenter can hit a little part of the statement, I'm objecting to us all being so far gone or so terrifed of that damn Cardinals magic we can't scoff at someone comparing him to Kris Bryant. But I will scoff. I am scoffing right now.

Damn you all for making me agree with SKO.  Carpenter had one really fucking freaky year where he hit a double in pretty much every at-bat, and apart from that has been, as SKO says, decent.  He's been decent, barely, against the Cubs.  He is not now, nor will he ever be, fit to lick Kris Bryant's hairy old ringpiece.

If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:54:36 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:13:30 PM
2013 was also his also his only positive year as far as dWAR goes.

Right -- which tells you he gets most of his value from his bat.

Right, and with the exception of 2013 his value has been like, 2.5 wins a year. Which is "pretty decent starter" not "guy we compare to Kris Bryant, like, ever". I'm not objecting to the Carpenter can hit a little part of the statement, I'm objecting to us all being so far gone or so terrifed of that damn Cardinals magic we can't scoff at someone comparing him to Kris Bryant. But I will scoff. I am scoffing right now.

Damn you all for making me agree with SKO.  Carpenter had one really fucking freaky year where he hit a double in pretty much every at-bat, and apart from that has been, as SKO says, decent.  He's been decent, barely, against the Cubs.  He is not now, nor will he ever be, fit to lick Kris Bryant's hairy old ringpiece.

If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.

I will admit I've wasted like 5,000 words and probably crossed twat territory on this I just never fathomed I'd get pushback on saying "hey remember that time Apex said pitchers would rather face Kris Bryant than Matt Carpenter? Lolz"
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 09, 2015, 01:20:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 12:13:30 PM
2013 was also his also his only positive year as far as dWAR goes.

Right -- which tells you he gets most of his value from his bat.

Right, and with the exception of 2013 his value has been like, 2.5 wins a year. Which is "pretty decent starter" not "guy we compare to Kris Bryant, like, ever". I'm not objecting to the Carpenter can hit a little part of the statement, I'm objecting to us all being so far gone or so terrifed of that damn Cardinals magic we can't scoff at someone comparing him to Kris Bryant. But I will scoff. I am scoffing right now.

Damn you all for making me agree with SKO.  Carpenter had one really fucking freaky year where he hit a double in pretty much every at-bat, and apart from that has been, as SKO says, decent.  He's been decent, barely, against the Cubs.  He is not now, nor will he ever be, fit to lick Kris Bryant's hairy old ringpiece.

If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.

Don't sell his ringpiece-licking abilities short.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.

OK, damn you for making me defend Matt Carpenter even more, but the going rate for a boring, league average player is like $15 million a year at this point. If Kris Bryant didn't exist, I'd be more than happy to have Carpenter playing for the Cubs on that deal -- it's nothing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.

OK, damn you for making me defend Matt Carpenter even more, but the going rate for a boring, league average player is like $15 million a year at this point. If Kris Bryant didn't exist, I'd be more than happy to have Carpenter playing for the Cubs on that deal -- it's nothing.

We get it: you love the Cardinals.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:40:03 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.

OK, damn you for making me defend Matt Carpenter even more, but the going rate for a boring, league average player is like $15 million a year at this point. If Kris Bryant didn't exist, I'd be more than happy to have Carpenter playing for the Cubs on that deal -- it's nothing.

We get it: you love the Cardinals.

Don't try to distract everyone from your wrongness.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.

OK, damn you for making me defend Matt Carpenter even more, but the going rate for a boring, league average player is like $15 million a year at this point. If Kris Bryant didn't exist, I'd be more than happy to have Carpenter playing for the Cubs on that deal -- it's nothing.

We get it: you love the Cardinals.

It turns out every one of those "WHY IS BRYANT IN THE ALL STAR GAME AND NOT CARP" tweets that Slaky and the BFIBB guy have been retweeting all week came from the many robot accounts Eli's set up to defend the honor of this generation's Corey Koskie.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.

OK, damn you for making me defend Matt Carpenter even more, but the going rate for a boring, league average player is like $15 million a year at this point. If Kris Bryant didn't exist, I'd be more than happy to have Carpenter playing for the Cubs on that deal -- it's nothing.

We get it: you love the Cardinals.

It turns out every one of those "WHY IS BRYANT IN THE ALL STAR GAME AND NOT CARP" tweets that Slaky and the BFIBB guy have been retweeting all week came from the many robot accounts Eli's set up to defend the honor of this generation's Corey Koskie.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:04:51 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 09, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
If Carpenter were getting paid $38MM to play 3B for the Cubs for the next three years, I'd have a problem with it.  So would you all.

OK, damn you for making me defend Matt Carpenter even more, but the going rate for a boring, league average player is like $15 million a year at this point. If Kris Bryant didn't exist, I'd be more than happy to have Carpenter playing for the Cubs on that deal -- it's nothing.

We get it: you love the Cardinals.

It turns out every one of those "WHY IS BRYANT IN THE ALL STAR GAME AND NOT CARP" tweets that Slaky and the BFIBB guy have been retweeting all week came from the many robot accounts Eli's set up to defend the honor of this generation's Corey Koskie.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm saying this is you giving up on this argument, presumably through sheer exhaustion, and putting another notch on my Internet Winz belt.

The belt is strictly for decoration of course.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.

Oh damn that's a deep pull. Whatever happened to that guy? I'm guessing he tongue kissed a shotgun at some point.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 09, 2015, 02:16:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.

Oh damn that's a deep pull. Whatever happened to that guy? I'm guessing he tongue kissed a shotgun at some point.

"Shitcago Cunts" had a nice ring to it, you have to admit.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:17:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.

Oh damn that's a deep pull. Whatever happened to that guy? I'm guessing he tongue kissed a shotgun at some point.

Looks like he's out there on Twitter but hasn't tweeted much in the past year or so. He's a voiceover artist, which I'm sure CT would appreciate.

https://twitter.com/thefruitbowl

And Yeti follows him.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 02:22:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:17:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.

Oh damn that's a deep pull. Whatever happened to that guy? I'm guessing he tongue kissed a shotgun at some point.

Looks like he's out there on Twitter but hasn't tweeted much in the past year or so. He's a voiceover artist, which I'm sure CT would appreciate.

https://twitter.com/thefruitbowl

And Yeti follows him.

Figures.

I saw that he had a Twitter account too but, sadly, it appears his unironically insane YouTube videos do not turn up on my searches.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 09, 2015, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:17:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.

Oh damn that's a deep pull. Whatever happened to that guy? I'm guessing he tongue kissed a shotgun at some point.

Looks like he's out there on Twitter but hasn't tweeted much in the past year or so. He's a voiceover artist, which I'm sure CT would appreciate.

https://twitter.com/thefruitbowl

And Yeti follows him.

As do morph and Fork.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on July 09, 2015, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:17:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.

Oh damn that's a deep pull. Whatever happened to that guy? I'm guessing he tongue kissed a shotgun at some point.

Looks like he's out there on Twitter but hasn't tweeted much in the past year or so. He's a voiceover artist, which I'm sure CT would appreciate.

https://twitter.com/thefruitbowl

And Yeti follows him.

I like my takes like my coffee.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 09, 2015, 03:12:28 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:17:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.

Oh damn that's a deep pull. Whatever happened to that guy? I'm guessing he tongue kissed a shotgun at some point.

Looks like he's out there on Twitter but hasn't tweeted much in the past year or so. He's a voiceover artist, which I'm sure CT would appreciate.

https://twitter.com/thefruitbowl

And Yeti follows him.

As do morph and Fork.

He's been woefully quiet.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on July 09, 2015, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:17:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 09, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 09, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 09, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Henceforth Eli shall be known 'round these parts by his full name--"Elias".

Ah yes, like the well-known bureau of extensive sports statistics and knowledge. Thank you.

Don't play coy with me, Coblentz.

Oh damn that's a deep pull. Whatever happened to that guy? I'm guessing he tongue kissed a shotgun at some point.

Looks like he's out there on Twitter but hasn't tweeted much in the past year or so. He's a voiceover artist, which I'm sure CT would appreciate.

https://twitter.com/thefruitbowl

And Yeti follows him.

These people must be stopped (Bort's wife excepted)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on July 16, 2015, 09:45:32 PM
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Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 17, 2015, 12:16:30 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 16, 2015, 09:45:32 PM
(http://www.worldwideinterweb.com/images/blogphotos/Funny/Worst%20Family%20Portraits/waldo%20family.png)

Not even BC could improve this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on July 17, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 17, 2015, 12:16:30 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 16, 2015, 09:45:32 PM
(http://www.worldwideinterweb.com/images/blogphotos/Funny/Worst%20Family%20Portraits/waldo%20family.png)

Not even BC could improve this.

I wouldn't be so sure.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 20, 2015, 08:28:06 AM
I don't know what other options we had, I guess, but there had to have been some alternative for Matheny other than squeezing four innings and 72 pitches out of Carlos Martinez yesterday, no? Seems like the young stud who is already at a career high for innings pitched would be the last guy you'd want to use there.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on July 20, 2015, 09:51:44 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 16, 2015, 09:45:32 PM
(http://www.worldwideinterweb.com/images/blogphotos/Funny/Worst%20Family%20Portraits/waldo%20family.png)

I give up.  Where's Waldo?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on July 20, 2015, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 20, 2015, 08:28:06 AM
I don't know what other options we had, I guess, but there had to have been some alternative for Matheny other than squeezing four innings and 72 pitches out of Carlos Martinez yesterday, no? Seems like the young stud who is already at a career high for innings pitched would be the last guy you'd want to use there.
They had 12 pitchers on the roster and had used seven. Rosenthal was unavailable. That left Lackey (started Saturday), Lynn (started Friday), Martinez, and Wacha, or a position player. Or extend Carlos Villanueva past 80 pitches.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 20, 2015, 10:29:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mqCXfEM.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 30, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
If Chuck wants to bitch about Crane Kenney or whomever becuase the Cardinals just signed a 1 billion dollar TV deal and the Cubs have to wait lord knows how long to do the same I'll allow it. Goddammit.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 30, 2015, 08:19:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
If Chuck wants to bitch about Crane Kenney or whomever becuase the Cardinals just signed a 1 billion dollar TV deal and the Cubs have to wait lord knows how long to do the same I'll allow it. Goddammit.

Let's definitely keep giving them free draft picks to help those poor people try to compete. Bless their hearts.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
If Chuck wants to bitch about Crane Kenney or whomever becuase the Cardinals just signed a 1 billion dollar TV deal and the Cubs have to wait lord knows how long to do the same I'll allow it. Goddammit.

The frightening thing is that this bubble has to burst soon. How much of that cash is up front? How much of that will be paid in a Chapter 11 situation? Would the Cubs be better off extracting a big check out of Comcast to keep games on CSN rather than take on risk and start their own network?

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 30, 2015, 08:59:15 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
If Chuck wants to bitch about Crane Kenney or whomever becuase the Cardinals just signed a 1 billion dollar TV deal and the Cubs have to wait lord knows how long to do the same I'll allow it. Goddammit.

The frightening thing is that this bubble has to burst soon. How much of that cash is up front? How much of that will be paid in a Chapter 11 situation? Would the Cubs be better off extracting a big check out of Comcast to keep games on CSN rather than take on risk and start their own network?



Really gonna suck if the next decade is the Dodgers and Cardinals flush with Fuck You money from a TV deal the Cubs can't match even though they could have probably gotten an even better deal if they were free agents right now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on July 30, 2015, 09:00:14 AM
Cardinals get Brandon Moss from the Indians for LHP prospect Rob Kaminsky.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on July 30, 2015, 09:02:59 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
If Chuck wants to bitch about Crane Kenney or whomever becuase the Cardinals just signed a 1 billion dollar TV deal and the Cubs have to wait lord knows how long to do the same I'll allow it. Goddammit.

The frightening thing is that this bubble has to burst soon. How much of that cash is up front? How much of that will be paid in a Chapter 11 situation? Would the Cubs be better off extracting a big check out of Comcast to keep games on CSN rather than take on risk and start their own network?



I've wondered that as well. I think people are pointing at 2019 or 2020 for when the Cubs can do their own deal, right? That seems like a long way off for an industry/tech that is changing pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 09:16:07 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 30, 2015, 09:02:59 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
If Chuck wants to bitch about Crane Kenney or whomever becuase the Cardinals just signed a 1 billion dollar TV deal and the Cubs have to wait lord knows how long to do the same I'll allow it. Goddammit.

The frightening thing is that this bubble has to burst soon. How much of that cash is up front? How much of that will be paid in a Chapter 11 situation? Would the Cubs be better off extracting a big check out of Comcast to keep games on CSN rather than take on risk and start their own network?



I've wondered that as well. I think people are pointing at 2019 or 2020 for when the Cubs can do their own deal, right? That seems like a long way off for an industry/tech that is changing pretty quickly.

Time Warner is expecting to lose in excess of $1B in its $8B Dodgers deal. With rumblings that cable carriers are going to tell ESPN/Disney to pound sand rather than pay carriage fees, you could see the rights fees landscape changing. Will ESPN negotiate to get out of some of its deals? Will Time Warner and FOX, both of whom also might find that DirecTV and Comcast are in no mood to subsidize their spending sprees? If FSMW (that's a separate corporation from 21st Century FOX) finds itself short some dough, they can file bankruptcy and restructure those deals. There's not enough meth in the world to soothe all those broken Missouri hearts.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 30, 2015, 09:00:14 AM
Cardinals get Brandon Moss from the Indians for LHP prospect Rob Kaminsky.

Rob Kaminsky is a 20-year-old LHP who has a 2.09 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP and a 2.82 K/bb in 17 starts for Peoria. If Brandon Moss were playing first base for the Cubs, Fork would be leading the effort to get Fred McGriff to come out of retirement to replace him, and he'd be right to. Brandon Moss sucks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 30, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 30, 2015, 09:00:14 AM
Cardinals get Brandon Moss from the Indians for LHP prospect Rob Kaminsky.

Rob Kaminsky is a 20-year-old LHP who has a 2.09 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP and a 2.82 K/bb in 17 starts for Peoria. If Brandon Moss were playing first base for the Cubs, Fork would be leading the effort to get Fred McGriff to come out of retirement to replace him, and he'd be right to. Brandon Moss sucks.

Scouts aren't that high on Kaminsky, though. Fastball 87-91, curveball not dominant. He has solid control, so he's dominating a bunch of young, eager kids, not a top of the rotation guy in the future probably.

Moss isn't that good, no, but would anyone be shocked if he experienced a "magical" resurgence in St. Louis?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 30, 2015, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 30, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 30, 2015, 09:00:14 AM
Cardinals get Brandon Moss from the Indians for LHP prospect Rob Kaminsky.

Rob Kaminsky is a 20-year-old LHP who has a 2.09 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP and a 2.82 K/bb in 17 starts for Peoria. If Brandon Moss were playing first base for the Cubs, Fork would be leading the effort to get Fred McGriff to come out of retirement to replace him, and he'd be right to. Brandon Moss sucks.

Now that he's a Cardinal, I expect him to HGH his way into becoming Lou Gehrig.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 31, 2015, 04:01:04 AM
Typical bush league bullshit from Carlos Martinez and the Cardinals last night, beaning opposing batters for arbitrary reasons the RIGHT way.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 31, 2015, 12:25:36 PM
The Cardinals charge its own charity $300,000+ a year for office space and are the only MLB team that does so. And don't you ask about it, either. (http://deadspin.com/the-cardinals-charity-really-doesnt-want-to-answer-our-1720887249)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 31, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
TPD because I hate the Cardinals: http://deadspin.com/oh-1721470346
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 13, 2015, 09:31:43 AM
So much rage: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-st-louis-cardinals-cluster-luck/

QuoteTeam-level stats that estimate run prevention from pitchers' peripherals aren't as kind to the Cardinals. St. Louis has the best FIP, but only barely: The Cardinals' FIP is 0.70 runs higher than their ERA, tied for the fifth-largest difference in that direction since World War II. More complex run estimators — xFIP, SIERA, DRA — are even less impressed, placing the Cardinals inside the top 10 but outside the top five. The Cardinals don't strike out batters more often than everyone else, or get grounders more often, or allow fewer walks. They haven't acted like a team with a surplus of pitching, acquiring two former closers at the trading deadline. And it's not as if St. Louis has a Royals-esque defense propping up its staff: Its fielders are good, but not great.

QuoteThe Cardinals' success with runners in scoring position is a convincing illustration of the concept of "cluster luck," first described by author Joe Peta and calculated daily by Grantland contributor Ed Feng. The crux of the concept: Given the same number of hits — and even extra-base hits — two teams' run totals can vary dramatically depending on the way those hits are distributed. A team that bunches its hits in close succession will score more runs than a team that parcels them out sparingly from inning to inning, as the Reds and Brewers did against St. Louis last week. This seems like something that should even out over the course of a season, and often it does, but it hasn't come close to equalizing in the Cardinals' case. According to Feng, the Cardinals' crackdown with runners in scoring position has saved them 84 runs relative to the total their underlying stats say they should have allowed, which would outstrip the all-time second-place team in Feng's records (which go back to 2001) by more than 16 runs. BaseRuns, another method of calculating the number of runs a team "deserved" to allow, yields a slightly more conservative estimate of 61 runs below the team's expected tab. Either way, it's an enormous, potentially playoff-race-altering number.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on August 13, 2015, 09:40:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2015, 09:31:43 AM
So much rage: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-st-louis-cardinals-cluster-luck/

QuoteTeam-level stats that estimate run prevention from pitchers' peripherals aren't as kind to the Cardinals. St. Louis has the best FIP, but only barely: The Cardinals' FIP is 0.70 runs higher than their ERA, tied for the fifth-largest difference in that direction since World War II. More complex run estimators — xFIP, SIERA, DRA — are even less impressed, placing the Cardinals inside the top 10 but outside the top five. The Cardinals don't strike out batters more often than everyone else, or get grounders more often, or allow fewer walks. They haven't acted like a team with a surplus of pitching, acquiring two former closers at the trading deadline. And it's not as if St. Louis has a Royals-esque defense propping up its staff: Its fielders are good, but not great.

QuoteThe Cardinals' success with runners in scoring position is a convincing illustration of the concept of "cluster luck," first described by author Joe Peta and calculated daily by Grantland contributor Ed Feng. The crux of the concept: Given the same number of hits — and even extra-base hits — two teams' run totals can vary dramatically depending on the way those hits are distributed. A team that bunches its hits in close succession will score more runs than a team that parcels them out sparingly from inning to inning, as the Reds and Brewers did against St. Louis last week. This seems like something that should even out over the course of a season, and often it does, but it hasn't come close to equalizing in the Cardinals' case. According to Feng, the Cardinals' crackdown with runners in scoring position has saved them 84 runs relative to the total their underlying stats say they should have allowed, which would outstrip the all-time second-place team in Feng's records (which go back to 2001) by more than 16 runs. BaseRuns, another method of calculating the number of runs a team "deserved" to allow, yields a slightly more conservative estimate of 61 runs below the team's expected tab. Either way, it's an enormous, potentially playoff-race-altering number.

I just had a very fulfilling conclusion on the way to work that this Cardinals team is basically acting like the St Louis Blues without the loser pedigree.

I'm hoping this is all a big set up for the best NLDS in Chicago Cubs history.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on August 13, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2015, 09:31:43 AM
So much rage: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-st-louis-cardinals-cluster-luck/

QuoteTeam-level stats that estimate run prevention from pitchers' peripherals aren't as kind to the Cardinals. St. Louis has the best FIP, but only barely: The Cardinals' FIP is 0.70 runs higher than their ERA, tied for the fifth-largest difference in that direction since World War II. More complex run estimators — xFIP, SIERA, DRA — are even less impressed, placing the Cardinals inside the top 10 but outside the top five. The Cardinals don't strike out batters more often than everyone else, or get grounders more often, or allow fewer walks. They haven't acted like a team with a surplus of pitching, acquiring two former closers at the trading deadline. And it's not as if St. Louis has a Royals-esque defense propping up its staff: Its fielders are good, but not great.

QuoteThe Cardinals' success with runners in scoring position is a convincing illustration of the concept of "cluster luck," first described by author Joe Peta and calculated daily by Grantland contributor Ed Feng. The crux of the concept: Given the same number of hits — and even extra-base hits — two teams' run totals can vary dramatically depending on the way those hits are distributed. A team that bunches its hits in close succession will score more runs than a team that parcels them out sparingly from inning to inning, as the Reds and Brewers did against St. Louis last week. This seems like something that should even out over the course of a season, and often it does, but it hasn't come close to equalizing in the Cardinals' case. According to Feng, the Cardinals' crackdown with runners in scoring position has saved them 84 runs relative to the total their underlying stats say they should have allowed, which would outstrip the all-time second-place team in Feng's records (which go back to 2001) by more than 16 runs. BaseRuns, another method of calculating the number of runs a team "deserved" to allow, yields a slightly more conservative estimate of 61 runs below the team's expected tab. Either way, it's an enormous, potentially playoff-race-altering number.

DAT'S CALLED CLUTCH HITTING RIGHT DERE, MY FRENT.  DEM CARDINAL GUYS JUST GOT DA MOXIE AN DA VETRAN LEADERSHIP TO GET ALL DERE HITS TAGEDDER.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 13, 2015, 01:25:26 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 13, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 13, 2015, 09:31:43 AM
So much rage: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-st-louis-cardinals-cluster-luck/

QuoteTeam-level stats that estimate run prevention from pitchers' peripherals aren't as kind to the Cardinals. St. Louis has the best FIP, but only barely: The Cardinals' FIP is 0.70 runs higher than their ERA, tied for the fifth-largest difference in that direction since World War II. More complex run estimators — xFIP, SIERA, DRA — are even less impressed, placing the Cardinals inside the top 10 but outside the top five. The Cardinals don't strike out batters more often than everyone else, or get grounders more often, or allow fewer walks. They haven't acted like a team with a surplus of pitching, acquiring two former closers at the trading deadline. And it's not as if St. Louis has a Royals-esque defense propping up its staff: Its fielders are good, but not great.

QuoteThe Cardinals' success with runners in scoring position is a convincing illustration of the concept of "cluster luck," first described by author Joe Peta and calculated daily by Grantland contributor Ed Feng. The crux of the concept: Given the same number of hits — and even extra-base hits — two teams' run totals can vary dramatically depending on the way those hits are distributed. A team that bunches its hits in close succession will score more runs than a team that parcels them out sparingly from inning to inning, as the Reds and Brewers did against St. Louis last week. This seems like something that should even out over the course of a season, and often it does, but it hasn't come close to equalizing in the Cardinals' case. According to Feng, the Cardinals' crackdown with runners in scoring position has saved them 84 runs relative to the total their underlying stats say they should have allowed, which would outstrip the all-time second-place team in Feng's records (which go back to 2001) by more than 16 runs. BaseRuns, another method of calculating the number of runs a team "deserved" to allow, yields a slightly more conservative estimate of 61 runs below the team's expected tab. Either way, it's an enormous, potentially playoff-race-altering number.

DAT'S CALLED CLUTCH HITTING RIGHT DERE, MY FRENT.  DEM CARDINAL GUYS JUST GOT DA MOXIE AN DA VETRAN LEADERSHIP TO GET ALL DERE HITS TAGEDDER.

Clearest case of TWTW I ever seen, Stone Pony.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on August 13, 2015, 05:51:53 PM
Aw, what the hell, let's post it here:

Cubs
@Sox 3-0
DET 1-1
ATL 3-1
CLE 1-0
@SF 1-2
@LA 1-2
CIN 3-0
AZ  2-1
@STL 2-1
@PHL  4-0
@PIT 2-2
STL 3-0
MIL 3-0
PIT 2-1
KC 1-0
@CIN 2-1
@ MIL 3-0

37-11 the rest of the way for a 102-60 record

PIT
@STL (tonight) 1-0
@NYM 2-1
AZ 3-0
SF 2-2
@MIA 3-1
COL 3-0
@MIL 2-1
@STL 2-1
@CIN 2-1
MIL 4-0
CUBS 2-2
@LAD 1-2
@COL 3-1
@CUBS 1-2
STL 2-1
CIN 3-0

36-15 the rest of the way for a 101-61 record

STL
PIT 0-1 (tonight)
MIA 2-1
SF 1-2
@SD 3-0
@AZ 3-1
@SF 0-3
WAS 2-1
PIT 1-2
CUBS 1-2
@CIN 3-1
@MIL 2-1
@CUBS 0-3
CIN 3-0
MIL 3-1
@PIT 1-2
@ATL 3-0

28-21 the rest of the way for a 101-61 record.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 29, 2015, 12:19:31 AM
THE CARDINALS JUST GOT KELBY'D
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on August 29, 2015, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 13, 2015, 05:51:53 PM
Aw, what the hell, let's post it here:

Cubs
@Sox 3-0
DET 1-1
ATL 3-1
CLE 1-0
@SF 1-2
@LA 1-2
CIN 3-0
AZ  2-1
@STL 2-1
@PHL  4-0
@PIT 2-2
STL 3-0
MIL 3-0
PIT 2-1
KC 1-0
@CIN 2-1
@ MIL 3-0

37-11 the rest of the way for a 102-60 record

PIT
@STL (tonight) 1-0
@NYM 2-1
AZ 3-0
SF 2-2
@MIA 3-1
COL 3-0
@MIL 2-1
@STL 2-1
@CIN 2-1
MIL 4-0
CUBS 2-2
@LAD 1-2
@COL 3-1
@CUBS 1-2
STL 2-1
CIN 3-0

36-15 the rest of the way for a 101-61 record

STL
PIT 0-1 (tonight)
MIA 2-1
SF 1-2
@SD 3-0
@AZ 3-1
@SF 0-3
WAS 2-1
PIT 1-2
CUBS 1-2
@CIN 3-1
@MIL 2-1
@CUBS 0-3
CIN 3-0
MIL 3-1
@PIT 1-2
@ATL 3-0

28-21 the rest of the way for a 101-61 record.

STOP THIS!  RIGHTNOW!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 18, 2015, 04:14:31 PM
Looks like we've reached the part where the redass Cardinals start throwing at our guys for imaginary slights. Awesome.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 18, 2015, 04:17:37 PM
Benches clear tomorrow.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 04:18:36 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 18, 2015, 04:14:31 PM
Looks like we've reached the part where the redass Cardinals start throwing at our guys for imaginary slights. Awesome.

As pointed out before, the Cardinals have a proud history of standing up for baseball's unwritten rules.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1309030.1429125770!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_970/ed-stanky-mocks-robinson-1953.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 18, 2015, 04:20:01 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 18, 2015, 04:17:37 PM
Benches clear tomorrow.

First they gotta throw at Starlin today, before it rains, or how else would he know he's been found guilty of breaking the unwritten rules?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 18, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 04:18:36 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 18, 2015, 04:14:31 PM
Looks like we've reached the part where the redass Cardinals start throwing at our guys for imaginary slights. Awesome.

As pointed out before, the Cardinals have a proud history of standing up for baseball's unwritten rules.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1309030.1429125770!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_970/ed-stanky-mocks-robinson-1953.jpg)

Stayin' classy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2015, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 18, 2015, 04:17:37 PM
Benches clear tomorrow.

Oh Christ, who's going to be dumb enough to bumrush Schwarber?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 18, 2015, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 18, 2015, 04:20:01 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 18, 2015, 04:17:37 PM
Benches clear tomorrow.

First they gotta throw at Starlin today, before it rains, or how else would he know he's been found guilty of breaking the unwritten rules?

They're going to have to throw at him in the dugout.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 18, 2015, 04:41:03 PM
I actually think Maddon's going to make sure the Cubs DON'T get wrapped up in this.  Let the Cardinals go down on flames of their own volition like they appear to be itching to do.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 18, 2015, 04:42:20 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 18, 2015, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 18, 2015, 04:20:01 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 18, 2015, 04:17:37 PM
Benches clear tomorrow.

First they gotta throw at Starlin today, before it rains, or how else would he know he's been found guilty of breaking the unwritten rules?

They're going to have to throw at him in the dugout.

As long as he's in sight, he's fair game.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on September 18, 2015, 04:49:50 PM
Who besides me was imagining Harry Carey trying to pronounce Tuivailala?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 18, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just stood up and saluted.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 18, 2015, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 18, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just stood up and saluted.

I heard it live on the radio and literally got goosebumps.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 18, 2015, 06:53:14 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 18, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just stood up and saluted.

I heard it live on the radio and literally got goosebumps.

If you got a focus group of Bort experts together to create the perfect statement to make me punch my fist in the air after that game, you'd probably end up with what he said.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 18, 2015, 06:54:46 PM
Thanks for the new sig Joe.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:59:26 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 18, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just stood up and saluted.

I heard it live on the radio and literally got goosebumps.

I might be way behind the times, but apparently this is a thing and I had no idea:

http://www.csnchicago.com/page/livecubs
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2015, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just went to binnys.com and had a bottle of Malort sent to Joe @ Wrigley Field.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CubFaninHydePark on September 18, 2015, 08:10:17 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 18, 2015, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just went to binnys.com and had a bottle of Malort sent to Joe @ Wrigley Field.

At least you know it's worth drinking.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 18, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just stood up and saluted.

I heard it live on the radio and literally got goosebumps.

So did I.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 19, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 18, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just stood up and saluted.

I heard it live on the radio and literally got goosebumps.

So did I.

What do we think he means by 'we won't start stuff, but we will stop it'?  That could mean they're going to throw back to retaliate, and while I don't think that's what he means, it's not as clear as I'd like.  Maybe it means win the game, but that's kind of hard to guarantee.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on September 19, 2015, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 19, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 18, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 18, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 18, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 18, 2015, 05:19:00 PM
Joe Maddon's press conference will go down in history as the best speech this side of the Gettysburg Address.

Per Twitter, a video of Maddon's statement should be up shortly on the Daily Herald.

Enjoy: 

http://tinyurl.com/p79sgrp

I just stood up and saluted.

I heard it live on the radio and literally got goosebumps.

So did I.

What do we think he means by 'we won't start stuff, but we will stop it'?  That could mean they're going to throw back to retaliate, and while I don't think that's what he means, it's not as clear as I'd like.  Maybe it means win the game, but that's kind of hard to guarantee.

From the full interview, I think he means that the benches will clear.  Maddon said that it would had happened yesterday but for the masterful job of the umpires of keeping control (he is a sly one, buttering up the umps in the first game of a 3 game series).

Wouldn't surprise for Wood to 'pitch inside' in the top of the first today to force the umpires to warn both sides, thus keeping Matheney from his normal tricks. Bet Mathaney  turns redder than his uniform if that happens (an added bonus).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on September 19, 2015, 09:47:49 AM
Taking a page out of the Yankees playbook, the correct response to getting hit is to start mashing homeruns. As much as I'd like to see the Cubs pummel the Cardinals in all ways, I'd much rather see them run up the score if St. Louis starts to get pissy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on September 19, 2015, 09:55:01 AM

I'm a little confused regarding Joe's comments starting at .30 sec with "furthermore" about the ninth and "playing behind us" and "the next time they do it we're going to run" and getting Rondon warmed up.

Could one of you morans explain this to an old man please.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 19, 2015, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 19, 2015, 09:55:01 AM

I'm a little confused regarding Joe's comments starting at .30 sec with "furthermore" about the ninth and "playing behind us" and "the next time they do it we're going to run" and getting Rondon warmed up.

Could one of you morans explain this to an old man please.

I think there was someone Brenlying about unwritten rules and not running up the score. Joe was saying "fuck that shit. Just because we're already winning doesn't mean we're not going to keep whipping you until your nose bleeds buttermilk." That way they don't have to resort to using a closer.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 19, 2015, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 19, 2015, 09:55:01 AM

I'm a little confused regarding Joe's comments starting at .30 sec with "furthermore" about the ninth and "playing behind us" and "the next time they do it we're going to run" and getting Rondon warmed up.

Could one of you morans explain this to an old man please.

I think they are 2 separate issues.  He was asked about the Rizzo getting hit, presumably, and answered it, but methinks there must've been some grumbling about the Cubs stealing a base with a 5 run lead and Joe chose that opportunity to discuss that also.  I mean, the issues could be related--Rizzo stole a base after getting hit but I think even without that context, whether the Cardinals were grumbling or Joe was just being pre-emptive,   his point is that the idea of stealing a base with a 5 run lead late in the game representing some sort of poor sportsmanship is bunk, because it only takes a bloop and a blast to make the game close again, unlike the olden days when power wasn't as abundant and a 5-run lead was much safer.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 19, 2015, 09:55:01 AM

I'm a little confused regarding Joe's comments starting at .30 sec with "furthermore" about the ninth and "playing behind us" and "the next time they do it we're going to run" and getting Rondon warmed up.

Could one of you morans explain this to an old man please.

The Cardinals were positioned defensively so the Cubs could get big leads and easily steal bases. And Maddon said that a 5 run lead isn't really that safe in the modern game, so they will always keep adding on. The bonus of having an even larger lead is that they don't need to bother warming up the closer because there's less of a chance of him coming in. Matheny is probably extra-pissed because his tiny brain can't possibly imagine thinking that many steps ahead strategically.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on September 19, 2015, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 19, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 19, 2015, 09:55:01 AM

I'm a little confused regarding Joe's comments starting at .30 sec with "furthermore" about the ninth and "playing behind us" and "the next time they do it we're going to run" and getting Rondon warmed up.

Could one of you morans explain this to an old man please.

The Cardinals were positioned defensively so the Cubs could get big leads and easily steal bases. And Maddon said that a 5 run lead isn't really that safe in the modern game, so they will always keep adding on. The bonus of having an even larger lead is that they don't need to bother warming up the closer because there's less of a chance of him coming in. Matheny is probably extra-pissed because his tiny brain can't possibly imagine thinking that many steps ahead strategically.

This makes sense but Joe said "the ninth inning" which doesn't fit. Maybe he meant the 8th?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on September 19, 2015, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 19, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 19, 2015, 09:55:01 AM

I'm a little confused regarding Joe's comments starting at .30 sec with "furthermore" about the ninth and "playing behind us" and "the next time they do it we're going to run" and getting Rondon warmed up.

Could one of you morans explain this to an old man please.

The Cardinals were positioned defensively so the Cubs could get big leads and easily steal bases. And Maddon said that a 5 run lead isn't really that safe in the modern game, so they will always keep adding on. The bonus of having an even larger lead is that they don't need to bother warming up the closer because there's less of a chance of him coming in. Matheny is probably extra-pissed because his tiny brain can't possibly imagine thinking that many steps ahead strategically.

You can either hold the runner on first; or play behind the runner, the better to field your position; not both.  If, by enforcing the unwritten rulebook, you somehow manage to achieve both those things, you are gaining an unfair advantage, regardless of the fucking score.

Christ, the Tards grind my gears.  I fucking love that Joe is calling them on their bullshit.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 19, 2015, 10:44:19 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 19, 2015, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 19, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 19, 2015, 09:55:01 AM

I'm a little confused regarding Joe's comments starting at .30 sec with "furthermore" about the ninth and "playing behind us" and "the next time they do it we're going to run" and getting Rondon warmed up.

Could one of you morans explain this to an old man please.

The Cardinals were positioned defensively so the Cubs could get big leads and easily steal bases. And Maddon said that a 5 run lead isn't really that safe in the modern game, so they will always keep adding on. The bonus of having an even larger lead is that they don't need to bother warming up the closer because there's less of a chance of him coming in. Matheny is probably extra-pissed because his tiny brain can't possibly imagine thinking that many steps ahead strategically.

This makes sense but Joe said "the ninth inning" which doesn't fit. Maybe he meant the 8th?

Probably just confused from all that ANGER.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on September 19, 2015, 10:53:45 AM
Didn't Whitey Herzog once say, "We'll stop trying to score runs when the other team promises to stop trying to score runs."? Or something to that effect. I'll leave it to CT to let me know if that's irony.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 19, 2015, 02:39:04 PM
Not sure why Jesse Rogers is so invested (http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/13690315/st-louis-cardinals-manager-mike-matheny-responds-chicago-cubs-manager-joe-maddon-rant) in making Mike Matheny seem like the good guy in this, but ok.

QuoteMike Matheny mostly took the high road

QuoteMatheny wouldn't respond to the Cubs' accusations

QuoteMatheny didn't take the bait Saturday, despite Maddon's volatile language

QuoteMatheny didn't want to speculate why Maddon went off

QuoteMatheny added: "We have a lot going on right now as far as the excitement of September baseball. A lot of times spending too much time with this, I believe, is a distraction from what we need to do."

I think I figured it out: Jesse doesn't watch the games.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 19, 2015, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Jenifer Langosch @LangoschMLB
#STLCards Mike Matheny: "That would have been maybe my favorite win ever, just watching how our guys respond to whatever comes at them."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on September 20, 2015, 03:26:18 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 19, 2015, 10:53:45 AM
Didn't Whitey Herzog once say, "We'll stop trying to score runs when the other team promises to stop trying to score runs."? Or something to that effect. I'll leave it to CT to let me know if that's irony.

Nope.

Also, to whoever it was a few pages back that mentioned that Schwarber was fair game to throw at in the dugout, thanks for reminding me that Ben Christensen was once a thing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 21, 2015, 04:06:32 PM
Looks like The Best Catcher Ever (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/150735118/yadier-molina-injures-left-thumb-to-have-mri) might go on the shelf for a while.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on September 21, 2015, 05:40:44 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 04:06:32 PM
Looks like The Best Catcher Ever (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/150735118/yadier-molina-injures-left-thumb-to-have-mri) might go on the shelf for a while.

Maybe you meant to link this. (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/150827738/cards-yadier-molina-tears-left-thumb-ligament)

Quote
The Cardinals may have a serious injury on their hands.

Catcher Yadier Molina was diagnosed with a slight tear in a ligament in his left thumb on Monday, and he will be re-evaluated in five to seven days. Molina, a seven-time All-Star, played in Sunday's 4-3 win over the Cubs and was injured while making a swipe tag at the plate in the eighth inning.
An MRI revealed the severity of the injury, and Molina will undergo another test in five to seven days to determine whether he'll be available to the Cardinals in the postseason.

The Cardinals also got news about veteran starter Adam Wainwright on Monday. Wainwright, who tore his left Achilles tendon in April, has been cleared for baseball activities and will pitch a simulated game by the end of the week. Wainwright could potentially return to the bullpen in time for the playoffs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 21, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
I hope Wainwright comes back for the playoffs as a pants-shitting trainwreck. Voodoo magick can't last forever, can it?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.

Cardinals announce Martinez out for the remainder of the season, which means he'll start Game 1 of the NLDS.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on September 27, 2015, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.

Cardinals announce Martinez out for the remainder of the season, which means he'll start Game 1 of the NLDS.

I'm actually a bit sorry about this, I think.  Martinez is the Tards' Zambrano - pretty much guaranteed to HEAD ASPLODE in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 27, 2015, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2015, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.

Cardinals announce Martinez out for the remainder of the season, which means he'll start Game 1 of the NLDS.

Racist

I'm actually a bit sorry about this, I think.  Martinez is the Tards' Zambrano - pretty much guaranteed to HEAD ASPLODE in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on September 27, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 27, 2015, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2015, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.

Cardinals announce Martinez out for the remainder of the season, which means he'll start Game 1 of the NLDS.

Racist

I'm actually a bit sorry about this, I think.  Martinez is the Tards' Zambrano - pretty much guaranteed to HEAD ASPLODE in the playoffs.

Forkquotist.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 27, 2015, 10:30:49 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2015, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.

Cardinals announce Martinez out for the remainder of the season, which means he'll start Game 1 of the NLDS.

I'm actually a bit sorry about this, I think.  Martinez is the Tards' Zambrano - pretty much guaranteed to HEAD ASPLODE in the playoffs.

The funny thing about this is Zambrano generally played against type and kept his cool in the playoffs.  In '07 it was Ted Lilly--not Big Z--who demonstrably lost his shit and in '08 Carlos kept it together when he would've been somewhat justified in going bonkers--after his whole fucking infield took a collective tub-shitting behind him. I know he didn't fare well in 2003 but I don't recall him losing his shit like he had so many times in regular season games.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 27, 2015, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 27, 2015, 10:30:49 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2015, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.

Cardinals announce Martinez out for the remainder of the season, which means he'll start Game 1 of the NLDS.

I'm actually a bit sorry about this, I think.  Martinez is the Tards' Zambrano - pretty much guaranteed to HEAD ASPLODE in the playoffs.

The funny thing about this is Zambrano generally played against type and kept his cool in the playoffs.  In '07 it was Ted Lilly--not Big Z--who demonstrably lost his shit and in '08 Carlos kept it together when he would've been somewhat justified in going bonkers--after his whole fucking infield took a collective tub-shitting behind him. I know he didn't fare well in 2003 but I don't recall him losing his shit like he had so many times in regular season games.

I wouldn't spend too much time breaking down yet another example of Tonker and his people being racist.  They're renowned for their intolerance.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 27, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 27, 2015, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 27, 2015, 10:30:49 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2015, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.

Cardinals announce Martinez out for the remainder of the season, which means he'll start Game 1 of the NLDS.

I'm actually a bit sorry about this, I think.  Martinez is the Tards' Zambrano - pretty much guaranteed to HEAD ASPLODE in the playoffs.

The funny thing about this is Zambrano generally played against type and kept his cool in the playoffs.  In '07 it was Ted Lilly--not Big Z--who demonstrably lost his shit and in '08 Carlos kept it together when he would've been somewhat justified in going bonkers--after his whole fucking infield took a collective tub-shitting behind him. I know he didn't fare well in 2003 but I don't recall him losing his shit like he had so many times in regular season games.

I wouldn't spend too much time breaking down yet another example of Tonker and his people being racist.  They're renowned for their intolerance.

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/jbdiablo/C9B26DF2-1A8E-45B5-BDC0-276FBA739549_zps23ua3mmj.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on September 28, 2015, 02:27:27 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 27, 2015, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 27, 2015, 10:30:49 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2015, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 27, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Carlos Martinez leaves game after seven pitches, will undergo MRI (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13740781/carlos-martinez-st-louis-cardinals-lifted-throwing-7-pitches-right-shoulder-tightness).  All part of Saint Oscar's plan.

Cardinals announce Martinez out for the remainder of the season, which means he'll start Game 1 of the NLDS.

I'm actually a bit sorry about this, I think.  Martinez is the Tards' Zambrano - pretty much guaranteed to HEAD ASPLODE in the playoffs.

The funny thing about this is Zambrano generally played against type and kept his cool in the playoffs.  In '07 it was Ted Lilly--not Big Z--who demonstrably lost his shit and in '08 Carlos kept it together when he would've been somewhat justified in going bonkers--after his whole fucking infield took a collective tub-shitting behind him. I know he didn't fare well in 2003 but I don't recall him losing his shit like he had so many times in regular season games.

I wouldn't spend too much time breaking down yet another example of Tonker and his people being racist.  They're renowned for their intolerance.

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/jbdiablo/C9B26DF2-1A8E-45B5-BDC0-276FBA739549_zps23ua3mmj.jpg)

It's a photograph of a load of black people.  I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 28, 2015, 05:52:01 AM
I saw the blue button and figured this thread was bumped for the Cardinals giving up 7 9th inning runs to the lowly Brewers yesterday.

You fucking people...
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 28, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 28, 2015, 05:52:01 AM
I saw the blue button and figured this thread was bumped for the Cardinals giving up 7 9th inning runs to the lowly Brewers yesterday.

You fucking people...

Maybe you should just become the solution instead of complaining about the problem, Seamus.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 28, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 28, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 28, 2015, 05:52:01 AM
I saw the blue button and figured this thread was bumped for the Cardinals giving up 7 9th inning runs to the lowly Brewers yesterday.

You fucking people...

Maybe you should just become the solution instead of complaining about the problem, Seamus.

I'M NOT MADE OF DESIPIO POSTS, PEOPLE!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: Soylent Optoat! on September 28, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 28, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: Soylent Optoat! on September 28, 2015, 05:52:01 AM
I saw the blue button and figured this thread was bumped for the Cardinals giving up 7 9th inning runs to the lowly Brewers yesterday.

You fucking people...

Maybe you should just become the solution instead of complaining about the problem, Seamus.

I'M NOT MADE OF DESIPIO POSTS, PEOPLE!

What ARE you made of?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 28, 2015, 12:44:48 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 28, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: Soylent Optoat! on September 28, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 28, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: Soylent Optoat! on September 28, 2015, 05:52:01 AM
I saw the blue button and figured this thread was bumped for the Cardinals giving up 7 9th inning runs to the lowly Brewers yesterday.

You fucking people...

Maybe you should just become the solution instead of complaining about the problem, Seamus.

I'M NOT MADE OF DESIPIO POSTS, PEOPLE!

What ARE you made of?

(http://i.imgur.com/oJn9I.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 28, 2015, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2015, 12:44:48 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 28, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: Soylent Optoat! on September 28, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 28, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: Soylent Optoat! on September 28, 2015, 05:52:01 AM
I saw the blue button and figured this thread was bumped for the Cardinals giving up 7 9th inning runs to the lowly Brewers yesterday.

You fucking people...

Maybe you should just become the solution instead of complaining about the problem, Seamus.

I'M NOT MADE OF DESIPIO POSTS, PEOPLE!

What ARE you made of?

(http://i.imgur.com/oJn9I.jpg)

*tips cap*
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 28, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Now Piscotty might miss some time after braining Peter Bourjos's knee. I think it's time the NTSB open an investigation. Maybe they could save some taxpayer dollars and carpool with the FBI investigators.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 13, 2015, 07:07:51 PM
I've been waiting too long to for this thread to feel real



(aside from the time when they're good next year, but fuck them now)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 13, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Enjoy mulling this one over all offseason, Cardinals.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 13, 2015, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 13, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Enjoy mulling this one over all offseason, Cardinals.

I'm going to wait until later to savor @BestFansStLouis
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on October 13, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 13, 2015, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 13, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Enjoy mulling this one over all offseason, Cardinals.

I'm going to wait until later to savor @BestFansStLouis

It's as glorious as you would hope it would be.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on October 14, 2015, 07:19:35 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 13, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 13, 2015, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 13, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Enjoy mulling this one over all offseason, Cardinals.

I'm going to wait until later to savor @BestFansStLouis

It's as glorious as you would hope it would be.

Wow.  That is asshurt the right way.  Also this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNshoUMWcAAg9LE.png)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on October 14, 2015, 07:34:18 AM
We did it ourselves.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on October 14, 2015, 11:30:10 AM
Quote from: thehawk on October 14, 2015, 07:19:35 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 13, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 13, 2015, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 13, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Enjoy mulling this one over all offseason, Cardinals.

I'm going to wait until later to savor @BestFansStLouis

It's as glorious as you would hope it would be.

Wow.  That is asshurt the right way.  Also this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNshoUMWcAAg9LE.png)

This great!  Can I steal it and post it on facebook?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on October 14, 2015, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: Oleg on October 14, 2015, 11:30:10 AM
Quote from: thehawk on October 14, 2015, 07:19:35 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 13, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 13, 2015, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 13, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Enjoy mulling this one over all offseason, Cardinals.

I'm going to wait until later to savor @BestFansStLouis

It's as glorious as you would hope it would be.

Wow.  That is asshurt the right way.  Also this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNshoUMWcAAg9LE.png)

This great!  Can I steal it and post it on facebook?

I stole it from Twitter.  You have my expressed oral consent to steal it from me.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on November 09, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Yeah, yeah (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/cardinals-prospect-alex-reyes-receives-50-game-suspension.html)...it's a Cardinal.  But what a goddamn backwards policy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2015, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: Oleg on November 09, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Yeah, yeah (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/cardinals-prospect-alex-reyes-receives-50-game-suspension.html)...it's a Cardinal.  But what a goddamn backwards policy.

Weed?  Come on, Alex.  You could have had your teammates wearing black "AR" patches on their uniforms, all season long, had you gotten yourself plastered and killed your girlfriend instead.  Nice choice, asshole.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on November 10, 2015, 07:43:02 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 09, 2015, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: Oleg on November 09, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Yeah, yeah (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/cardinals-prospect-alex-reyes-receives-50-game-suspension.html)...it's a Cardinal.  But what a goddamn backwards policy.

Weed?  Come on, Alex.  You could have had your teammates wearing black "AR" patches on their uniforms, all season long, had you gotten yourself plastered and killed your girlfriend instead.  Nice choice, asshole.

A performance de-hancing drug gets 50 games? That's dumb as hell.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on November 10, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 10, 2015, 07:43:02 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 09, 2015, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: Oleg on November 09, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Yeah, yeah (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/cardinals-prospect-alex-reyes-receives-50-game-suspension.html)...it's a Cardinal.  But what a goddamn backwards policy.

Weed?  Come on, Alex.  You could have had your teammates wearing black "AR" patches on their uniforms, all season long, had you gotten yourself plastered and killed your girlfriend instead.  Nice choice, asshole.

A performance de-hancing drug gets 50 games? That's dumb as hell.

I believe the word is "unhancing".
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 10, 2015, 09:27:14 AM
Quote from: Tonker on November 10, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 10, 2015, 07:43:02 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 09, 2015, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: Oleg on November 09, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Yeah, yeah (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/cardinals-prospect-alex-reyes-receives-50-game-suspension.html)...it's a Cardinal.  But what a goddamn backwards policy.

Weed?  Come on, Alex.  You could have had your teammates wearing black "AR" patches on their uniforms, all season long, had you gotten yourself plastered and killed your girlfriend instead.  Nice choice, asshole.

A performance de-hancing drug gets 50 games? That's dumb as hell.

I believe the word is "unhancing".

Looking forward to seeing him in a battery with Geo Soto.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 10, 2015, 04:38:22 PM
DPD

2016 just got a lot less fun (http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/st-louis-cardinals-lance-lynn-tommy-john-surgery-elbow-miss-2016-season-111015).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on November 11, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on November 10, 2015, 04:38:22 PM
DPD

2016 just got a lot less fun (http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/st-louis-cardinals-lance-lynn-tommy-john-surgery-elbow-miss-2016-season-111015).

Not sure why. This could motivate the Cards to re-sign Lackey, which would improve my quality of life slightly.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 16, 2015, 08:46:41 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on November 11, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on November 10, 2015, 04:38:22 PM
DPD

2016 just got a lot less fun (http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/st-louis-cardinals-lance-lynn-tommy-john-surgery-elbow-miss-2016-season-111015).

Not sure why. This could motivate the Cards to re-sign Lackey, which would improve my quality of life slightly.

Has anybody other than Crazy Rumor Guy mentioned what Lackey's looking for? All I've seen is Crazy Rumor Guy saying 3/50. Which I would positive, as long as the top of the paycheck says anything other than "Chicago Cubs".
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 08, 2015, 09:56:03 AM
Fact: Jedd Gyorko sucks. But just wait until he taps in to the St. Louis HGH supply.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 11, 2015, 12:16:44 PM
U mad?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on December 11, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
The Germans have a word for this. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on December 11, 2015, 12:55:45 PM
But hey, at least they got Jonathan Broxton.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 11, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
There are much worse uses for the Ricketts' money than provoking epic Cardinal Nation butthurt. Like this column (http://m.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordo-cards-won-t-fold-after-losing-heyward/article_9d092479-8591-54d3-8b91-c3acd351a4e9.html?mobile_touch=true), which says the Cardinals can easily replace Jason Heyward's terrible terrible bat with Jedd Gyorko. I'm typing this from the hospital because I passed out from laughing too hard.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on December 11, 2015, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 11, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
There are much worse uses for the Ricketts' money than provoking epic Cardinal Nation butthurt. Like this column (http://m.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordo-cards-won-t-fold-after-losing-heyward/article_9d092479-8591-54d3-8b91-c3acd351a4e9.html?mobile_touch=true), which says the Cardinals can easily replace Jason Heyward's terrible terrible bat with Jedd Gyorko. I'm typing this from the hospital because I passed out from laughing too hard.

Jedd Gyrkoff.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 13, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
These fucking people: http://www.stlsportspage.com/CARDSBASEBALL/tabid/91/entryid/3394/cardinals-should-thank-heyward-for-turning-down-their-offer.aspx

QuoteHeyward is not worth that kind of money. Based on the track record of his major-league career, there is no reason to expect him to be more than what he has been – an excellent defensive outfielder, perhaps the best in the game, but nothing more than a very good hitter.

YEAH WHY WOULD HE BE WORTH THE MONEY HE'S JUST THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A VERY GOOD HITTER FUCK IT STEPHEN PISCOTTY IS  WHITE AND BETTER AND Y'ALL KNOW IT

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on December 13, 2015, 09:48:40 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 13, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
These fucking people: http://www.stlsportspage.com/CARDSBASEBALL/tabid/91/entryid/3394/cardinals-should-thank-heyward-for-turning-down-their-offer.aspx

QuoteHeyward is not worth that kind of money. Based on the track record of his major-league career, there is no reason to expect him to be more than what he has been – an excellent defensive outfielder, perhaps the best in the game, but nothing more than a very good hitter.

YEAH WHY WOULD HE BE WORTH THE MONEY HE'S JUST THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A VERY GOOD HITTER FUCK IT STEPHEN PISCOTTY IS  WHITE AND BETTER AND Y'ALL KNOW IT



QuoteA Fox one day spied a beautiful bunch of ripe grapes hanging from a vine trained along the branches of a tree. The grapes seemed ready to burst with juice, and the Fox's mouth watered as he gazed longingly at them.
The bunch hung from a high branch, and the Fox had to jump for it. The first time he jumped he missed it by a long way. So he walked off a short distance and took a running leap at it, only to fall short once more. Again and again he tried, but in vain.
Now he sat down and looked at the grapes in disgust.
"What a fool I am," he said. "Here I am wearing myself out to get a bunch of sour grapes that are not worth gaping for."
And off he walked very, very scornfully.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 13, 2015, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 13, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
These fucking people: http://www.stlsportspage.com/CARDSBASEBALL/tabid/91/entryid/3394/cardinals-should-thank-heyward-for-turning-down-their-offer.aspx

QuoteHeyward is not worth that kind of money. Based on the track record of his major-league career, there is no reason to expect him to be more than what he has been – an excellent defensive outfielder, perhaps the best in the game, but nothing more than a very good hitter.

YEAH WHY WOULD HE BE WORTH THE MONEY HE'S JUST THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A VERY GOOD HITTER FUCK IT STEPHEN PISCOTTY IS  WHITE AND BETTER AND Y'ALL KNOW IT



It's true: excellent defensive outfielders and very good hitters grow on trees.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 13, 2015, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 13, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
These fucking people: http://www.stlsportspage.com/CARDSBASEBALL/tabid/91/entryid/3394/cardinals-should-thank-heyward-for-turning-down-their-offer.aspx

QuoteHeyward is not worth that kind of money. Based on the track record of his major-league career, there is no reason to expect him to be more than what he has been – an excellent defensive outfielder, perhaps the best in the game, but nothing more than a very good hitter.

YEAH WHY WOULD HE BE WORTH THE MONEY HE'S JUST THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A VERY GOOD HITTER FUCK IT STEPHEN PISCOTTY IS  WHITE AND BETTER AND Y'ALL KNOW IT



It's true: excellent defensive outfielders and very good hitters grow on trees.

I still remember when the Cards traded for Heyward and someone here lamented that the Fowl were going to ruin the Golden Age of Cubs Baseball by being better than they are. I thought about it and got a little anxious like, damn, I hope that doesn't happen.

During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

But I never envisioned anything like this. It's been too good.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 14, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 13, 2015, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 13, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
These fucking people: http://www.stlsportspage.com/CARDSBASEBALL/tabid/91/entryid/3394/cardinals-should-thank-heyward-for-turning-down-their-offer.aspx

QuoteHeyward is not worth that kind of money. Based on the track record of his major-league career, there is no reason to expect him to be more than what he has been – an excellent defensive outfielder, perhaps the best in the game, but nothing more than a very good hitter.

YEAH WHY WOULD HE BE WORTH THE MONEY HE'S JUST THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A VERY GOOD HITTER FUCK IT STEPHEN PISCOTTY IS  WHITE AND BETTER AND Y'ALL KNOW IT



It's true: excellent defensive outfielders and very good hitters grow on trees.

I still remember when the Cards traded for Heyward and someone here lamented that the Fowl were going to ruin the Golden Age of Cubs Baseball by being better than they are. I thought about it and got a little anxious like, damn, I hope that doesn't happen.

During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

But I never envisioned anything like this. It's been too good.

I have to admit, while most of me laughed at Cards fans like Leitch who kept citing the example of Matt Holliday for why they thought Heyward would give St. Louis a "hometown discount" after spending a year "learning what it means to be a Cardinal", a small part of me was afraid he actually would turn down more money from the Cubs to stay in St. Louis. That he did the opposite has given me a schaden-boner that still hasn't deflated.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 08:05:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 13, 2015, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 13, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
These fucking people: http://www.stlsportspage.com/CARDSBASEBALL/tabid/91/entryid/3394/cardinals-should-thank-heyward-for-turning-down-their-offer.aspx

QuoteHeyward is not worth that kind of money. Based on the track record of his major-league career, there is no reason to expect him to be more than what he has been – an excellent defensive outfielder, perhaps the best in the game, but nothing more than a very good hitter.

YEAH WHY WOULD HE BE WORTH THE MONEY HE'S JUST THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A VERY GOOD HITTER FUCK IT STEPHEN PISCOTTY IS  WHITE AND BETTER AND Y'ALL KNOW IT



It's true: excellent defensive outfielders and very good hitters grow on trees.

I still remember when the Cards traded for Heyward and someone here lamented that the Fowl were going to ruin the Golden Age of Cubs Baseball by being better than they are. I thought about it and got a little anxious like, damn, I hope that doesn't happen.

During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

But I never envisioned anything like this. It's been too good.

I have to admit, while most of me laughed at Cards fans like Leitch who kept citing the example of Matt Holliday for why they thought Heyward would give St. Louis a "hometown discount" after spending a year "learning what it means to be a Cardinal", a small part of me was afraid he actually would turn down more money from the Cubs to stay in St. Louis. That he did the opposite has given me a schaden-boner that still hasn't deflated.

I love how people who look and sound like me were saying that this team will be better next year because they'll just spend $400 Million on pitching and CHAMMENSHIP!!! And Theo was like, "fucking hilljacks" and did something so much more creative and helpful than anything I could have dreamed up because I'm dumb and lazy and fat and stupid.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 14, 2015, 08:08:26 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 08:05:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 13, 2015, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 13, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
These fucking people: http://www.stlsportspage.com/CARDSBASEBALL/tabid/91/entryid/3394/cardinals-should-thank-heyward-for-turning-down-their-offer.aspx

QuoteHeyward is not worth that kind of money. Based on the track record of his major-league career, there is no reason to expect him to be more than what he has been – an excellent defensive outfielder, perhaps the best in the game, but nothing more than a very good hitter.

YEAH WHY WOULD HE BE WORTH THE MONEY HE'S JUST THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A VERY GOOD HITTER FUCK IT STEPHEN PISCOTTY IS  WHITE AND BETTER AND Y'ALL KNOW IT



It's true: excellent defensive outfielders and very good hitters grow on trees.

I still remember when the Cards traded for Heyward and someone here lamented that the Fowl were going to ruin the Golden Age of Cubs Baseball by being better than they are. I thought about it and got a little anxious like, damn, I hope that doesn't happen.

During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

But I never envisioned anything like this. It's been too good.

I have to admit, while most of me laughed at Cards fans like Leitch who kept citing the example of Matt Holliday for why they thought Heyward would give St. Louis a "hometown discount" after spending a year "learning what it means to be a Cardinal", a small part of me was afraid he actually would turn down more money from the Cubs to stay in St. Louis. That he did the opposite has given me a schaden-boner that still hasn't deflated.

I love how people who look and sound like me were saying that this team will be better next year because they'll just spend $400 Million on pitching and CHAMMENSHIP!!! And Theo was like, "fucking hilljacks" and did something so much more creative and helpful than anything I could have dreamed up because I'm dumb and lazy and fat and stupid.

It's true. I never even spent much time thinking about Heyward because I am also stupid and unimaginative and my ideal offseason was basically Sign Price/Re-Sign Fowler. I'd have to say I'm much happier with how this has played out.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 14, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
Maybe Heyward learned what it meant to be a Cardinal, and it means Metheny will always mismanage the team out of any chance at a championship.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 14, 2015, 08:22:21 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
Maybe Heyward learned what it meant to be a Cardinal, and it means Metheny will always mismanage the team out of any chance at a championship.

That's my hope. I want him to open his press conference by saying that he saw the Cubs having fun and having fucking pajama days and he looked around a locker room that was so deep up it's own ass it felt like going to some shitty Baptist Church every day and decided he wanted to see what it's like on the other side of the baseball culture war.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 14, 2015, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value.

Well and frankly the second people start to copy something it's no longer an advantage. Teams are going to start prioritizing young, MLB-ready bats over pitching in the draft like Theo did and yet there's not a Kris Bryant or Kyle Schwarber every year. Teams are going to learn from what happened to the A's NOT to give up Addison Russells. Much like OBP is no longer something you can get for cheap and Billy Beane had to find the next inefficiency, the fact is that each attempt to do exactly what Theo has done will probably encounter diminishing returns.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 14, 2015, 09:01:22 AM
DPD: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/cardinals-sign-alex-gordon-unlikely.html the Cardinals are apparently dropping out of the top tier free agent hunt after missing out on Price/Heyward. While the argument can definitely be made that they're probably better off long term not overpaying guys like Gordon or Davis, Mozeliak is sure going to have a hard time placating the fans after they were told all season long that the new TV deal meant finally loosening up the purse strings.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on December 14, 2015, 09:09:10 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

I was kind of thinking about this...imagine if Feldman doesn't have a decent 1st half in '13.

I'm also not that sure they could have gotten more out of Garza than they did but I could be misremembering.

I'm not sold on Almora being a bust, yet.  He may end up being Inciarte (I forgot to whom else I'd compared Almora previously but basically any near-elite CF defender would work) yet.

I have no excuse for Edwin or Stewart but they were worth the shot, I suppose.  If Theo doesn't trade away LeMahieu, I guess you can argue he wouldn't have to spend on Zobrist this off-season?  Yeah, Eli is right, whatever.

Luck is one thing.  But I see a front office that had a plan from the get-go and stuck to it.  In fact, I think they even had some built in guards against any single point of failure and still do.  Seeing this play out was brilliant and far more fun than watching it as some cynical observer like Al or Gordo Or Vlahos were.  Granted, this is all on paper and they have to go out and play and yada yada but this has been a blast so far.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

Speaking of Edwin, that's a nice $16 million rolloff next winter when Theo goes shopping.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on December 14, 2015, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 08:53:05 AM
Well and frankly the second people start to copy something it's no longer an advantage. Teams are going to start prioritizing young, MLB-ready bats over pitching in the draft like Theo did and yet there's not a Kris Bryant or Kyle Schwarber every year. Teams are going to learn from what happened to the A's NOT to give up Addison Russells. Much like OBP is no longer something you can get for cheap and Billy Beane had to find the next inefficiency, the fact is that each attempt to do exactly what Theo has done will probably encounter diminishing returns.

Seeing what young pitchers are getting (Miller...jebus) and looking at the market that was *set* by the Giles and Kimbrell trades, I think FOs are trying to emulate the Royals more than the Cubs.  Which is just fine by me.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on December 14, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
Maybe Heyward learned what it meant to be a Cardinal, and it means Metheny will always mismanage the team out of any chance at a championship.

I think what we are seeing with Heyward, Zorbrist, Lackey and Lester is that the Cubs are now the dominant NL Central team.  For years they had the market, but the Cardinals had the advantages of stable ownership, competent front office management and managers and better player facilities.  The Cubs now beat them in each of those categories (and regarding Epstein/Hoyer/ Maddon vs Mozelak /Matheny its a walkover).  Throw in the third largest market, much more cosmopolitan city, etc. and things are looking pretttayyy prettayy good (and also explains why Cardinals fans are starting to lose it).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on December 14, 2015, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: Oleg on December 14, 2015, 09:09:10 AM
Granted, this is all on paper and they have to go out and play and yada yada but this has been a blast so far.

This is all true. But to slightly alter some wisdom from that great American philosopher, Matt Trueblood, outcomes don't invalidate processes.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

Speaking of Edwin, that's a nice $16 million rolloff next winter when Theo goes shopping.

$11 million.  $2 million of his $13mm on the books this year was a signing bonus.  Cash left to pay is $11mm.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 14, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

Speaking of Edwin, that's a nice $16 million rolloff next winter when Theo goes shopping.

$11 million.  $2 million of his $13mm on the books this year was a signing bonus.  Cash left to pay is $11mm.

Whatever. It's still a nice little jingle in the pocket. Besides, there shouldn't be as many holes to plug next year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 14, 2015, 10:03:18 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

Speaking of Edwin, that's a nice $16 million rolloff next winter when Theo goes shopping.

$11 million.  $2 million of his $13mm on the books this year was a signing bonus.  Cash left to pay is $11mm.

Whatever. It's still a nice little jingle in the pocket. Besides, there shouldn't be as many holes to plug next year.

Yeah with any luck they should be set at 7/8 positions for the next 3 years at least. Could see Soler traded and a new CF brought in, I suppose, but I still don't think they'd be looking to fill any position except maybe catcher in FA. Given that Wieters is probably the only reasonably attractive free agent catcher in next year's class I think we have to hope that Contreras is for real, or Schwarber can improve, or they'll probably try filling that spot with a trade.

So any money they spend in future offseasons will probably be almost entirely devoted to pitching, extensions, and arbitration.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

Speaking of Edwin, that's a nice $16 million rolloff next winter when Theo goes shopping.

$11 million.  $2 million of his $13mm on the books this year was a signing bonus.  Cash left to pay is $11mm.

Whatever. It's still a nice little jingle in the pocket. Besides, there shouldn't be as many holes to plug next year.

There supposedly aren't that many hole pluggers available next year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on December 14, 2015, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

Speaking of Edwin, that's a nice $16 million rolloff next winter when Theo goes shopping.

$11 million.  $2 million of his $13mm on the books this year was a signing bonus.  Cash left to pay is $11mm.

Whatever. It's still a nice little jingle in the pocket. Besides, there shouldn't be as many holes to plug next year.

There supposedly aren't that many hole pluggers available next year.

It's basically Strasburg and that's it. I think that's a big part of why they've done so much this winter.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 14, 2015, 10:32:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

Speaking of Edwin, that's a nice $16 million rolloff next winter when Theo goes shopping.

$11 million.  $2 million of his $13mm on the books this year was a signing bonus.  Cash left to pay is $11mm.

Whatever. It's still a nice little jingle in the pocket. Besides, there shouldn't be as many holes to plug next year.

There supposedly aren't that many hole pluggers available next year.

It's basically Strasburg and that's it. I think that's a big part of why they've done so much this winter.

That's if Dusty hasn't turned his arm and shoulder into sawdust by then.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on December 14, 2015, 03:38:36 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 14, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 14, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
During the rebuild when we used to debate (with the meatballs and Eli) whether it was worth it to suffer through the lean years to get to where Theo was headed, I still had plenty of doubt about whether it would really work. I mean so many things had to go right.

They had to get so many things right and they had to get some luck, too. They've had both of those things happen. But really, it's much more the first one than the second one. They've just repeatedly made the right call over and over and I'm not sure any front office has ever had this kind of a run of decision-making. The missteps that you can now see with hindsight* are all basically inconsequential at this point and are only noticeable because everything else has been so good.

A lot of other teams are going to try the tanking thing and it's usually not going to work, because those teams don't have Theo Epstein.

* Even when nitpicking, these are still few and far between. Edwin, the Ian Stewart trade, probably Almora, and maybe not trading certain guys like Starlin or Garza at the peak of their value. I can't even really think of anything else off the top of my head. It's impressive.

Speaking of Edwin, that's a nice $16 million rolloff next winter when Theo goes shopping.

$11 million.  $2 million of his $13mm on the books this year was a signing bonus.  Cash left to pay is $11mm.

Whatever. It's still a nice little jingle in the pocket. Besides, there shouldn't be as many holes to plug next year.

(||)

(Desipio, I hardly even know you anymore)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 14, 2015, 05:39:23 PM
Dammit, I wanted the Cards to get Cueto. The BFIB meltdown would probably have been complete.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 14, 2015, 05:43:51 PM
Oh my God http://m.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-heyward-deal-has-cardinals-feeling-jilted/article_5abf0d31-f70f-5927-aee8-019e92ad5add.html?mobile_touch=true

QuoteAnd some of the reaction, was, simply, release. It hurts. He spurned you, your team, your city. He's baseball's Benedict Arnold, so to speak. And really, it's not just about Heyward specifically, it's more of the idea that someone was offered a cloud in baseball heaven — and passed.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on December 14, 2015, 06:23:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 05:43:51 PM
Oh my God http://m.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-heyward-deal-has-cardinals-feeling-jilted/article_5abf0d31-f70f-5927-aee8-019e92ad5add.html?mobile_touch=true

QuoteAnd some of the reaction, was, simply, release. It hurts. He spurned you, your team, your city. He's baseball's Benedict Arnold, so to speak. And really, it's not just about Heyward specifically, it's more of the idea that someone was offered a cloud in baseball heaven — and passed.

You know, I'm starting to think that maybe St. Louis' relationship with its baseball team might not be healthy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on December 14, 2015, 10:54:21 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 14, 2015, 06:23:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 05:43:51 PM
Oh my God http://m.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-heyward-deal-has-cardinals-feeling-jilted/article_5abf0d31-f70f-5927-aee8-019e92ad5add.html?mobile_touch=true

QuoteAnd some of the reaction, was, simply, release. It hurts. He spurned you, your team, your city. He's baseball's Benedict Arnold, so to speak. And really, it's not just about Heyward specifically, it's more of the idea that someone was offered a cloud in baseball heaven — and passed.

You know, I'm starting to think that maybe St. Louis' relationship with its baseball team might not be healthy.

Kind of like relations with a relative.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: D. Doluntap on December 16, 2015, 02:59:11 PM
At least Missouri can look forward to the Brayan Pena experience.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/yadier-molina-randal-grichuk-surgery.html (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/yadier-molina-randal-grichuk-surgery.html)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
5/$75 (or $80) for Mike Leake ain't so bad for them.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 22, 2015, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
5/$75 (or $80) for Mike Leake ain't so bad for them.
Yeah he's fine. They gave basically 5 years of the qualifying salary to a league average pitcher. I'm sure he'll be better than average for them because that's how it always works, but the way I see it they just kinda got back a little less than they lost when Lance Lynn got hurt.

I also love Cardinals fans citing his great career numbers vs. Cubs teams that spent three years losing on purpose.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 22, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
5/$75 (or $80) for Mike Leake ain't so bad for them.

No way they ever regret the 5-year full NTC.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on December 22, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 22, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
5/$75 (or $80) for Mike Leake ain't so bad for them.

No way they ever regret the 5-year full NTC.

It's not like it's $230MM and/or ten years: it's a decent contract for a decent pitcher.  If the Cubs had done the same deal, I'd be happy enough with it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 22, 2015, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Tonker on December 22, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 22, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
5/$75 (or $80) for Mike Leake ain't so bad for them.

No way they ever regret the 5-year full NTC.

It's not like it's $230MM and/or ten years: it's a decent contract for a decent pitcher.  If the Cubs had done the same deal, I'd be happy enough with it.

Yeah, the qualifying offer salary was like $15 mil this year, this averages out to 15 mil a year. They are paying him to be a decent, innings eating starter and that's what he'll probably be. I just think it's hilarious that there are Cardinals fans who think we should be impressed by it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on December 22, 2015, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 22, 2015, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Tonker on December 22, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 22, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
5/$75 (or $80) for Mike Leake ain't so bad for them.

No way they ever regret the 5-year full NTC.

It's not like it's $230MM and/or ten years: it's a decent contract for a decent pitcher.  If the Cubs had done the same deal, I'd be happy enough with it.

Yeah, the qualifying offer salary was like $15 mil this year, this averages out to 15 mil a year. They are paying him to be a decent, innings eating starter and that's what he'll probably be. I just think it's hilarious that there are Cardinals fans who think we should be impressed by it.

He's a 2-win pitcher.  This is pretty much the perfect example of market value, no more no less.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 01:58:05 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 22, 2015, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Tonker on December 22, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 22, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
5/$75 (or $80) for Mike Leake ain't so bad for them.

No way they ever regret the 5-year full NTC.

It's not like it's $230MM and/or ten years: it's a decent contract for a decent pitcher.  If the Cubs had done the same deal, I'd be happy enough with it.

Yeah, the qualifying offer salary was like $15 mil this year, this averages out to 15 mil a year. They are paying him to be a decent, innings eating starter and that's what he'll probably be. I just think it's hilarious that there are Cardinals fans who think we should be impressed by it.

You will always find someone who wants you to believe something. You don't have to always seek them out or listen to them.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 22, 2015, 02:06:52 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 01:58:05 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 22, 2015, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Tonker on December 22, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 22, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 22, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
5/$75 (or $80) for Mike Leake ain't so bad for them.

No way they ever regret the 5-year full NTC.

It's not like it's $230MM and/or ten years: it's a decent contract for a decent pitcher.  If the Cubs had done the same deal, I'd be happy enough with it.

Yeah, the qualifying offer salary was like $15 mil this year, this averages out to 15 mil a year. They are paying him to be a decent, innings eating starter and that's what he'll probably be. I just think it's hilarious that there are Cardinals fans who think we should be impressed by it.

You will always find someone who wants you to believe something. You don't have to always seek them out or listen to them.

Yeah there's not an entire twitter feed devoted to the BFIBB that most of us follow and chuckle at or anything. I'm just actively seeking out crazy Cardinals fans by myself.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on December 22, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
Hell it's not like I am posting in the thread that we have specifically devoted to mocking the Cardinals and their fans
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 22, 2015, 02:35:52 PM
Actually, the pay won't be bad for a #1 starter, which Leake will be once Waino gets hurt again.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 23, 2015, 12:12:55 PM
Hooray for butthurt! (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/adam-wainwright-says-jason-heyward-doesn-t-want-to-be--the-one-165556672.html)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 26, 2015, 04:45:29 PM
STRONG WORDS (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14420846/right-hander-mike-leake-agrees-deal-st-louis-cardinals) from Mike Leake!

Quote"Honestly," he said Tuesday [when asked about the Cardinals' rivalry with the Cubs], "I wouldn't mind taking them down."

"Beating them would be kind of okay, I guess."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on December 26, 2015, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 26, 2015, 04:45:29 PM
STRONG WORDS (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14420846/right-hander-mike-leake-agrees-deal-st-louis-cardinals) from Mike Leake!

Quote"Honestly," he said Tuesday [when asked about the Cardinals' rivalry with the Cubs], "I wouldn't mind taking them down."

"Beating them would be kind of okay, I guess."

"Gee, it would be keen if we win some games against a division rival."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 26, 2015, 11:50:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on December 26, 2015, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 26, 2015, 04:45:29 PM
STRONG WORDS (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14420846/right-hander-mike-leake-agrees-deal-st-louis-cardinals) from Mike Leake!

Quote"Honestly," he said Tuesday [when asked about the Cardinals' rivalry with the Cubs], "I wouldn't mind taking them down."

"Beating them would be kind of okay, I guess."

"Gee, it would be keen if we win some games against a division rival."

"I've heard the Mag Mile takes shoplifting very seriously, and honestly I'm looking forward to the challenge."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 28, 2015, 01:26:32 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).

I find myself enjoying a lot of Baffoe's work, which is nice in a city that once employed Skip Bayless and Jay Mariotti and still pays Ricks Morrissey and Telander for unknown reasons.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on December 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
"Manifesto"?  I think that someone is a little full of himself.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 28, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
"Manifesto"?  I think that someone is a little full of himself.

Not at all, Stew.  Mike Matheny is all about the boys.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on December 29, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 28, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
"Manifesto"?  I think that someone is a little full of himself.

Not at all, Stew.  Mike Matheny is all about the boys.

There's no way Mike Matheny knows the word "manifesto."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on December 29, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: Shooter on December 29, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 28, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
"Manifesto"?  I think that someone is a little full of himself.

Not at all, Stew.  Mike Matheny is all about the boys.

There's no way Mike Matheny knows the word "manifesto."

However, he's pretty sure he can order a pizza there.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 30, 2015, 08:26:24 AM
Quote from: Shooter on December 29, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 28, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
"Manifesto"?  I think that someone is a little full of himself.

Not at all, Stew.  Mike Matheny is all about the boys.

There's no way Mike Matheny knows the word "manifesto."

He had some manifesto once, but Gold Bond took care of it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on December 30, 2015, 10:07:50 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 30, 2015, 08:26:24 AM
Quote from: Shooter on December 29, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 28, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
"Manifesto"?  I think that someone is a little full of himself.

Not at all, Stew.  Mike Matheny is all about the boys.

There's no way Mike Matheny knows the word "manifesto."

He had some manifesto once, but Gold Bond penicilin took care of it.

Sounds more like an STD to me'd.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on December 30, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2015, 10:07:50 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 30, 2015, 08:26:24 AM
Quote from: Shooter on December 29, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 28, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
"Manifesto"?  I think that someone is a little full of himself.

Not at all, Stew.  Mike Matheny is all about the boys.

There's no way Mike Matheny knows the word "manifesto."

He had some manifesto once, but Gold Bond penicilin took care of it.

Sounds more like an STD to me'd.

It's actually just a Manifistula.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on December 30, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on December 30, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2015, 10:07:50 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 30, 2015, 08:26:24 AM
Quote from: Shooter on December 29, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 28, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on December 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Oleg on December 28, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
This is a fun read (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/baffoe-cardinals-sour-grapes-over-jason-heyward-are-so-sweet-for-cubs/).  I also had no idea that Matheny has some sort of a manifesto (http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf).
"Manifesto"?  I think that someone is a little full of himself.

Not at all, Stew.  Mike Matheny is all about the boys.

There's no way Mike Matheny knows the word "manifesto."

He had some manifesto once, but Gold Bond penicilin took care of it.

Sounds more like an STD to me'd.

It's actually just a Manifistula.

THAT FISTULA SAVED MY LIFE.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on January 03, 2016, 03:11:06 PM
 Best videoboards in baseball  (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25436059).  Guess Schwarber will need to put a baseball on top of that one also.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on January 04, 2016, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 03, 2016, 03:11:06 PM
Best videoboards in baseball  (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25436059).  Guess Schwarber will need to put a baseball on top of that one also.

Wow, even team management isn't hiding their inferiority complex any more.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on January 04, 2016, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on January 04, 2016, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 03, 2016, 03:11:06 PM
Best videoboards in baseball  (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25436059).  Guess Schwarber will need to put a baseball on top of that one also.

Wow, even team management isn't hiding their inferiority complex any more.
You can't fool me.   This is really from "The Onion".   Even the Cardinals have too much self respect to publish something like that.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on January 06, 2016, 11:58:44 AM
Worst Fans in Football? (http://deadspin.com/in-application-to-move-to-los-angeles-rams-shit-all-ov-1751320853)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on January 09, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/the-details-in-the-cardinals-astros-hacking-scandal-are-insane-211314578.html

MLB needs to shove a red-hot poker up the Cardinals' ass for this.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on January 09, 2016, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on January 09, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/the-details-in-the-cardinals-astros-hacking-scandal-are-insane-211314578.html

MLB needs to shove a red-hot poker up the Cardinals' ass for this.



BUT THE CARDINALS DIDN'T DO THIS IT WAS JUST THE THIRD MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE ORGANIZATION AND THERE'S TOTES NO WAY HE SHARED THAT INFO WITH MOZELIAK- Cardinals fans
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on January 09, 2016, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on January 09, 2016, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on January 09, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/the-details-in-the-cardinals-astros-hacking-scandal-are-insane-211314578.html

MLB needs to shove a red-hot poker up the Cardinals' ass for this.



BUT THE CARDINALS DIDN'T DO THIS IT WAS JUST THE THIRD MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE ORGANIZATION AND THERE'S TOTES NO WAY HE SHARED THAT INFO WITH MOZELIAK- Cardinals fans

My favorite part is that this was done so guys could look at proprietary scouting information which means this guy broke Federal laws so he could
read stuff like: "solid makeup, good arm, bat may develop, looks like shit in blue jeans"
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on January 12, 2016, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

Those comments can't be real.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on January 12, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.

My guess is it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B...
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on January 12, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.

My guess is it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B...

I'm not going to go so far as suggest that the merciless (and justified) beating that Todd Hundely endured disproves that the fans were racist but we sure didn't spare that worthless drunk any vitriol.  He was not only white, but a LOCAL GUY whose dad was a beloved player on a beloved team. 

Also Derrek Lee was beloved.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on January 12, 2016, 03:01:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 12, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.

My guess is it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B...

I'm not going to go so far as suggest that the merciless (and justified) beating that Todd Hundely endured disproves that the fans were racist but we sure didn't spare that worthless drunk any vitriol.  He was not only white, but a LOCAL GUY whose dad was a beloved player on a beloved team. 

Also Derrek Lee was beloved.

This feels like a classic White Guy post.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on January 12, 2016, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 12, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.

My guess is it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B...

I'm not going to go so far as suggest that the merciless (and justified) beating that Todd Hundely endured disproves that the fans were racist but we sure didn't spare that worthless drunk any vitriol.  He was not only white, but a LOCAL GUY whose dad was a beloved player on a beloved team. 

Also Derrek Lee was beloved.

Perhaps I should qualify this...I don't think Hawkins was targeted by fans because of his race, but I would guess that plenty of them expressed their outrage at him in a way that wouldn't look out of place on the Twitter feed for The Best Fans in Baseball.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on January 12, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 12, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.

My guess is it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B...

I'm not going to go so far as suggest that the merciless (and justified) beating that Todd Hundely endured disproves that the fans were racist but we sure didn't spare that worthless drunk any vitriol.  He was not only white, but a LOCAL GUY whose dad was a beloved player on a beloved team. 

Also Derrek Lee was beloved.

Perhaps I should qualify this...I don't think Hawkins was targeted by fans because of his race, but I would guess that plenty of them expressed their outrage at him in a way that wouldn't look out of place on the Twitter feed for The Best Fans in Baseball.

Right. To deny the Cubs have racist fans is dumb, but nobody hated LaTroy because he was black, they just made sure to point out that he was black while yelling at him for blowing saves.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on January 12, 2016, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 12, 2016, 03:01:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 12, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.

My guess is it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B...

I'm not going to go so far as suggest that the merciless (and justified) beating that Todd Hundely endured disproves that the fans were racist but we sure didn't spare that worthless drunk any vitriol.  He was not only white, but a LOCAL GUY whose dad was a beloved player on a beloved team. 

Also Derrek Lee was beloved.

This feels like a classic White Guy post.

My last sentence was a flippant attempt at being facetious. 

I see it went over really well.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on January 12, 2016, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 12, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.

My guess is it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B...

I'm not going to go so far as suggest that the merciless (and justified) beating that Todd Hundely endured disproves that the fans were racist but we sure didn't spare that worthless drunk any vitriol.  He was not only white, but a LOCAL GUY whose dad was a beloved player on a beloved team. 

Also Derrek Lee was beloved.

Perhaps I should qualify this...I don't think Hawkins was targeted by fans because of his race, but I would guess that plenty of them expressed their outrage at him in a way that wouldn't look out of place on the Twitter feed for The Best Fans in Baseball.

This is fair.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on January 12, 2016, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: PANK! on January 12, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 12, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 12, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Bump. (http://i.imgur.com/Ga0nKDY.png)

I like to laugh at them, sure, but when Cubs fans were responsible for HORRY KOW I don't think we've got a leg to stand on here.

Ugh. I forgot about that.

On a related note, I always wondered if LaTroy Hawkins had a point about Cub fans being racist, or if he just couldn't handle being heckled because he sucked so badly when he closed for the Cubs.

My guess is it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B...

I'm not going to go so far as suggest that the merciless (and justified) beating that Todd Hundely endured disproves that the fans were racist but we sure didn't spare that worthless drunk any vitriol.  He was not only white, but a LOCAL GUY whose dad was a beloved player on a beloved team. 

Also Derrek Lee was beloved.

Perhaps I should qualify this...I don't think Hawkins was targeted by fans because of his race, but I would guess that plenty of them expressed their outrage at him in a way that wouldn't look out of place on the Twitter feed for The Best Fans in Baseball.

Right. To deny the Cubs have racist fans is dumb, but nobody hated LaTroy because he was black, they just made sure to point out that he was black while yelling at him for blowing saves.

Well, yeah. Take any large group of people, and it's impossible to have a jagoff-free environment.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 03:53:34 PM
Some of my best friends are black people who hated LaTroy Hawkins.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on January 12, 2016, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 03:53:34 PM
Some of my best friends are black people who hated LaTroy Hawkins.

I laughed.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on January 12, 2016, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 12, 2016, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 03:53:34 PM
Some of my best friends are black people who hated LaTroy Hawkins.

I laughed.

Damnit. Me too.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on January 12, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 12, 2016, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 12, 2016, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 03:53:34 PM
Some of my best friends are black people who hated LaTroy Hawkins.

I laughed.

Damnit. Me too.

I cannot lie. I did too.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 08:05:56 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about making my one funny joke of the year in January.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on January 13, 2016, 01:05:24 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 08:05:56 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about making my one funny joke of the year in January 2016.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on January 13, 2016, 07:18:41 AM
Quote from: Tonker on January 13, 2016, 01:05:24 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 12, 2016, 08:05:56 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about making my one funny joke of the year in January 2016.

I mean, all of the photoshops were hilarious, just not in the way they were supposed to be.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on March 07, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
Jhonny Peralta potentially out 2-3 months with a torn ligament in his thumb.  (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/jhonny-peralta-potentiall-out-for-2-3-months/)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
Jhonny Peralta potentially out 2-3 months with a torn ligament in his thumb.  (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/jhonny-peralta-potentiall-out-for-2-3-months/)

I guess that thing Yadier had was contagious.  They should probably stop sticking their thumbs into each others' anuses (I'm assuming that's how torn ligaments are transmitted).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on March 07, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
Jhonny Peralta potentially out 2-3 months with a torn ligament in his thumb.  (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/jhonny-peralta-potentiall-out-for-2-3-months/)

I guess that thing Yadier had was contagious.  They should probably stop sticking their thumbs into each others' anuses (I'm assuming that's how torn ligaments are transmitted).

Yeah but at least now we  get to look forward to Jedd Gyorko magically rediscovering his power stroke on offense while somehow playing adequate defense at SS.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on March 07, 2016, 01:03:47 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
Jhonny Peralta potentially out 2-3 months with a torn ligament in his thumb.  (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/jhonny-peralta-potentiall-out-for-2-3-months/)

I guess that thing Yadier had was contagious.  They should probably stop sticking their thumbs into each others' anuses (I'm assuming that's how torn ligaments are transmitted).

There is part of me that says I shouldn't enjoy this as much as I am. Karma and injuries (and having a conscience) and all that ya know?

Ehhh, fuck that.
Stupid Cardinals, a plague of locusts next please.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: flannj on March 07, 2016, 01:03:47 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
Jhonny Peralta potentially out 2-3 months with a torn ligament in his thumb.  (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/jhonny-peralta-potentiall-out-for-2-3-months/)

I guess that thing Yadier had was contagious.  They should probably stop sticking their thumbs into each others' anuses (I'm assuming that's how torn ligaments are transmitted).

There is part of me that says I shouldn't enjoy this as much as I am. Karma and injuries and all that ya know?

Ehhh, fuck that.
Stupid Cardinals, a plague of locusts next please.

It's much easier going through life not believing in karma for this exact reason.

Fuck those shitbirds.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on March 07, 2016, 01:12:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: flannj on March 07, 2016, 01:03:47 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
Jhonny Peralta potentially out 2-3 months with a torn ligament in his thumb.  (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/jhonny-peralta-potentiall-out-for-2-3-months/)

I guess that thing Yadier had was contagious.  They should probably stop sticking their thumbs into each others' anuses (I'm assuming that's how torn ligaments are transmitted).

There is part of me that says I shouldn't enjoy this as much as I am. Karma and injuries and all that ya know?

Ehhh, fuck that.
Stupid Cardinals, a plague of locusts next please.

It's much easier going through life not believing in karma for this exact reason.

Fuck those shitbirds.

I saw a lot of Cardinals fans arguing that they shouldn't be predicted to regress because they won 100 games last year despite a lot of injuries, so better health this year should make up for what they've lost in Heyward and Lackey.

However, there's really no reason to think they have to be healthier this year because they had seemingly bad injury luck last year. That's just what happens when you have old players. They get hurt, and they get hurt often.

That also ignores that none of those injuries actually hurt them or impacted their W-L record because they got luck fueled bullshit hot streaks from guys like Grichuk and Piscotty that led to those guys outperforming the injured players they were replacing anyway.  
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on March 07, 2016, 10:13:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2016, 01:12:15 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: flannj on March 07, 2016, 01:03:47 PM
Quote from: Oleg on March 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 07, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
Jhonny Peralta potentially out 2-3 months with a torn ligament in his thumb.  (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/jhonny-peralta-potentiall-out-for-2-3-months/)

I guess that thing Yadier had was contagious.  They should probably stop sticking their thumbs into each others' anuses (I'm assuming that's how torn ligaments are transmitted).

There is part of me that says I shouldn't enjoy this as much as I am. Karma and injuries and all that ya know?

Ehhh, fuck that.
Stupid Cardinals, a plague of locusts next please.

It's much easier going through life not believing in karma for this exact reason.

Fuck those shitbirds.

I saw a lot of Cardinals fans arguing that they shouldn't be predicted to regress because they won 100 games last year despite a lot of injuries, so better health this year should make up for what they've lost in Heyward and Lackey.

However, there's really no reason to think they have to be healthier this year because they had seemingly bad injury luck last year. That's just what happens when you have old players. They get hurt, and they get hurt often.

That also ignores that none of those injuries actually hurt them or impacted their W-L record because they got luck fueled bullshit hot streaks from guys like Grichuk and Piscotty that led to those guys outperforming the injured players they were replacing anyway.  

That's 2015 Deserved Rookie Of The Year winners Grichuk and Piscotty to you. #neverforget #cardsnation #bryantisgay #alllivesmatter #tcot
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 07, 2016, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

I'm calling it now - they aren't getting any closer to the Cubs than they are right now all season.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 09:07:53 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 07, 2016, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

I'm calling it now - they aren't getting any closer to the Cubs than they are right now all season.

So, you're guaranteeing the Cubs win today?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 07, 2016, 09:12:02 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 09:07:53 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 07, 2016, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

I'm calling it now - they aren't getting any closer to the Cubs than they are right now all season.

So, you're guaranteeing the Cubs win today?

Huey's dad is going to beat the living shit out of Fork one of these days
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 07, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 09:12:02 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 09:07:53 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 07, 2016, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

I'm calling it now - they aren't getting any closer to the Cubs than they are right now all season.

So, you're guaranteeing the Cubs win today?

Huey's dad is going to beat the living shit out of Fork one of these days

I've met him. He could.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious number?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 07, 2016, 03:50:32 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

In a row?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

I admit it, I originally thought it was "significant" and had to look it up. Was significant our spin or theirs, because I couldn't find anything.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 07, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

I admit it, I originally thought it was "significant" and had to look it up. Was significant our spin or theirs, because I couldn't find anything.

QuoteA second police video shows LaRussa at a sheriff's station, where he submitted to a pair of Breathalyzer tests, both of which recorded his blood alcohol level above the state's .08 limit. As seen in the police station video, LaRussa told deputies that he had consumed two glasses of wine at dinner and had a "long, long day. I'm tired." When informed that two separate test results showed his BAC above the limit, LaRussa asked, "Is that significant in your opinion?" Told that he blew .093 and .092 on his Breathalyzer tests, LaRussa wondered, "What would be a really high number?"

From The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/larussa-bottom-fifth).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

I admit it, I originally thought it was "significant" and had to look it up. Was significant our spin or theirs, because I couldn't find anything.

QuoteA second police video shows LaRussa at a sheriff's station, where he submitted to a pair of Breathalyzer tests, both of which recorded his blood alcohol level above the state's .08 limit. As seen in the police station video, LaRussa told deputies that he had consumed two glasses of wine at dinner and had a "long, long day. I'm tired." When informed that two separate test results showed his BAC above the limit, LaRussa asked, "Is that significant in your opinion?" Told that he blew .093 and .092 on his Breathalyzer tests, LaRussa wondered, "What would be a really high number?"

From The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/larussa-bottom-fifth).

I'm glad I forgot about this because reading it anew was highly enjoyable.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on April 08, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

I admit it, I originally thought it was "significant" and had to look it up. Was significant our spin or theirs, because I couldn't find anything.

QuoteA second police video shows LaRussa at a sheriff's station, where he submitted to a pair of Breathalyzer tests, both of which recorded his blood alcohol level above the state's .08 limit. As seen in the police station video, LaRussa told deputies that he had consumed two glasses of wine at dinner and had a "long, long day. I'm tired." When informed that two separate test results showed his BAC above the limit, LaRussa asked, "Is that significant in your opinion?" Told that he blew .093 and .092 on his Breathalyzer tests, LaRussa wondered, "What would be a really high number?"

From The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/larussa-bottom-fifth).

I'm glad I forgot about this because reading it anew was highly enjoyable.

Did you forget about Game 4 of the NLDS (or Game 3 and Game 2 and the Wild Card game and Arrieta's no-hitter) as well?

Did you forget the 1984 Division Clincher, or the Sandberg game or the August 1984 Cubs-Mets series or about 20 great 1989 Cubs games? Or the Kerry Wood 20K game?

HOW DO YOU FORGET ABOUT THE GREATEST DUI ARREST THIS SIDE OF PROHIBITION?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on April 08, 2016, 10:28:44 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 08, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

I admit it, I originally thought it was "significant" and had to look it up. Was significant our spin or theirs, because I couldn't find anything.

QuoteA second police video shows LaRussa at a sheriff's station, where he submitted to a pair of Breathalyzer tests, both of which recorded his blood alcohol level above the state's .08 limit. As seen in the police station video, LaRussa told deputies that he had consumed two glasses of wine at dinner and had a "long, long day. I'm tired." When informed that two separate test results showed his BAC above the limit, LaRussa asked, "Is that significant in your opinion?" Told that he blew .093 and .092 on his Breathalyzer tests, LaRussa wondered, "What would be a really high number?"

From The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/larussa-bottom-fifth).

I'm glad I forgot about this because reading it anew was highly enjoyable.

Did you forget about Game 4 of the NLDS (or Game 3 and Game 2 and the Wild Card game and Arrieta's no-hitter) as well?

Did you forget the 1984 Division Clincher, or the Sandberg game or the August 1984 Cubs-Mets series or about 20 great 1989 Cubs games? Or the Kerry Wood 20K game?

HOW DO YOU FORGET ABOUT THE GREATEST DUI ARREST THIS SIDE OF PROHIBITION?

#neverforget
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on April 08, 2016, 10:28:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 08, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

I admit it, I originally thought it was "significant" and had to look it up. Was significant our spin or theirs, because I couldn't find anything.

QuoteA second police video shows LaRussa at a sheriff's station, where he submitted to a pair of Breathalyzer tests, both of which recorded his blood alcohol level above the state's .08 limit. As seen in the police station video, LaRussa told deputies that he had consumed two glasses of wine at dinner and had a "long, long day. I'm tired." When informed that two separate test results showed his BAC above the limit, LaRussa asked, "Is that significant in your opinion?" Told that he blew .093 and .092 on his Breathalyzer tests, LaRussa wondered, "What would be a really high number?"

From The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/larussa-bottom-fifth).

I'm glad I forgot about this because reading it anew was highly enjoyable.

Did you forget about Game 4 of the NLDS (or Game 3 and Game 2 and the Wild Card game and Arrieta's no-hitter) as well?

Did you forget the 1984 Division Clincher, or the Sandberg game or the August 1984 Cubs-Mets series or about 20 great 1989 Cubs games? Or the Kerry Wood 20K game?

HOW DO YOU FORGET ABOUT THE GREATEST DUI ARREST THIS SIDE OF PROHIBITION?

...were there DUI's on the other side of probation?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on April 08, 2016, 10:33:33 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 08, 2016, 10:28:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 08, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

I admit it, I originally thought it was "significant" and had to look it up. Was significant our spin or theirs, because I couldn't find anything.

QuoteA second police video shows LaRussa at a sheriff's station, where he submitted to a pair of Breathalyzer tests, both of which recorded his blood alcohol level above the state's .08 limit. As seen in the police station video, LaRussa told deputies that he had consumed two glasses of wine at dinner and had a "long, long day. I'm tired." When informed that two separate test results showed his BAC above the limit, LaRussa asked, "Is that significant in your opinion?" Told that he blew .093 and .092 on his Breathalyzer tests, LaRussa wondered, "What would be a really high number?"

From The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/larussa-bottom-fifth).

I'm glad I forgot about this because reading it anew was highly enjoyable.

Did you forget about Game 4 of the NLDS (or Game 3 and Game 2 and the Wild Card game and Arrieta's no-hitter) as well?

Did you forget the 1984 Division Clincher, or the Sandberg game or the August 1984 Cubs-Mets series or about 20 great 1989 Cubs games? Or the Kerry Wood 20K game?

HOW DO YOU FORGET ABOUT THE GREATEST DUI ARREST THIS SIDE OF PROHIBITION?

...were there DUI's on the other side of probation?

Actually......

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-drunk-driving-arrest
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on April 08, 2016, 10:53:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 08, 2016, 10:33:33 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 08, 2016, 10:28:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 08, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 07, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2016, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Bump

Maybe they should have spent less time in spring training being butthurt about "the team up north" and more time not striking out all of the fucking time.

I am laughing so hard at a fanbase that told me "the Cubs strike out too much to win in the postseason" K'ing 30+ times in 3 games.

So I was curious and looked it up...they struck out *37* times in 101 ABs!

37!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

Is 37 a serious significant number?

Wrong. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rESCt1Te1VY) Idito. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5c4NHEJKI)

YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

I admit it, I originally thought it was "significant" and had to look it up. Was significant our spin or theirs, because I couldn't find anything.

QuoteA second police video shows LaRussa at a sheriff's station, where he submitted to a pair of Breathalyzer tests, both of which recorded his blood alcohol level above the state's .08 limit. As seen in the police station video, LaRussa told deputies that he had consumed two glasses of wine at dinner and had a "long, long day. I'm tired." When informed that two separate test results showed his BAC above the limit, LaRussa asked, "Is that significant in your opinion?" Told that he blew .093 and .092 on his Breathalyzer tests, LaRussa wondered, "What would be a really high number?"

From The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/larussa-bottom-fifth).

I'm glad I forgot about this because reading it anew was highly enjoyable.

Did you forget about Game 4 of the NLDS (or Game 3 and Game 2 and the Wild Card game and Arrieta's no-hitter) as well?

Did you forget the 1984 Division Clincher, or the Sandberg game or the August 1984 Cubs-Mets series or about 20 great 1989 Cubs games? Or the Kerry Wood 20K game?

HOW DO YOU FORGET ABOUT THE GREATEST DUI ARREST THIS SIDE OF PROHIBITION?

...were there DUI's on the other side of probation?

Actually......

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-drunk-driving-arrest

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AhQMqEFPEEs/Tw-8MnjcuGI/AAAAAAAAAGU/32pJTnbHeuI/s1600/today%2Bi%2Blearned%2BPNG.png)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 11, 2016, 07:24:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/B1a4qwz.jpg)

Via my racist uncle's facebook.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on April 11, 2016, 07:34:36 AM
Why are they comparing totally random, unrelated days?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 11, 2016, 07:59:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 11, 2016, 07:34:36 AM
Why are they comparing totally random, unrelated days?

Because the Cardinals are the bestest team everest if you only count the games they win.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 11, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.

I usually do not engage him but I did respond with:

Cubs 5-1, Cardinals 3-3
Cubs 42 runs, Cardinals 38
Cubs 15 runs allowed, Cardinals 28
Cubs team batting average: .282, Cardinals .242
But you guys do lead the majors in errors, so kudos.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on April 11, 2016, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.

I usually do not engage him but I did respond with:

Cubs 5-1, Cardinals 3-3
Cubs 42 runs, Cardinals 38
Cubs 15 runs allowed, Cardinals 28
Cubs team batting average: .282, Cardinals .242
But you guys do lead the majors in errors, so kudos.

Enjoy his dumb trolling while it lasts. I have a feeling that he's going to go silent as the season progresses.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 11, 2016, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 07:24:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/B1a4qwz.jpg)

Via my racist uncle's facebook.

This is just fucking pathetic.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 11, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.

I usually do not engage him but I did respond with:

Cubs 5-1, Cardinals 3-3
Cubs 42 runs, Cardinals 38
Cubs 15 runs allowed, Cardinals 28
Cubs team batting average: .282, Cardinals .242
But you guys do lead the majors in errors, so kudos.

You might also want to bring up the fact that the Braves couldn't play .500 ball in the Southern League.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 11, 2016, 10:48:26 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 11, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.

I usually do not engage him but I did respond with:

Cubs 5-1, Cardinals 3-3
Cubs 42 runs, Cardinals 38
Cubs 15 runs allowed, Cardinals 28
Cubs team batting average: .282, Cardinals .242
But you guys do lead the majors in errors, so kudos.

You might also want to bring up the fact that the Braves couldn't play .500 ball in the Southern League.

I did say "good job beating the team that's trying to lose as many games as possible."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 11, 2016, 11:29:54 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 10:48:26 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 11, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.

I usually do not engage him but I did respond with:

Cubs 5-1, Cardinals 3-3
Cubs 42 runs, Cardinals 38
Cubs 15 runs allowed, Cardinals 28
Cubs team batting average: .282, Cardinals .242
But you guys do lead the majors in errors, so kudos.

You might also want to bring up the fact that the Braves couldn't play .500 ball in the Southern League.

I did say "good job beating the team that's trying to lose as many games as possible."
And still managing to give up 13 runs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 11, 2016, 11:30:46 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 11, 2016, 11:29:54 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 10:48:26 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 11, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.

I usually do not engage him but I did respond with:

Cubs 5-1, Cardinals 3-3
Cubs 42 runs, Cardinals 38
Cubs 15 runs allowed, Cardinals 28
Cubs team batting average: .282, Cardinals .242
But you guys do lead the majors in errors, so kudos.

You might also want to bring up the fact that the Braves couldn't play .500 ball in the Southern League.

I did say "good job beating the team that's trying to lose as many games as possible."
And still managing to give up 13 runs.

Yeah if I were a Cardinals fan the only takeaway of any importance from that series is that Adam Wainwright still looks like warmed over dogshit.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on April 11, 2016, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 11:30:46 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 11, 2016, 11:29:54 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 10:48:26 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 11, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.

I usually do not engage him but I did respond with:

Cubs 5-1, Cardinals 3-3
Cubs 42 runs, Cardinals 38
Cubs 15 runs allowed, Cardinals 28
Cubs team batting average: .282, Cardinals .242
But you guys do lead the majors in errors, so kudos.

You might also want to bring up the fact that the Braves couldn't play .500 ball in the Southern League.

I did say "good job beating the team that's trying to lose as many games as possible."
And still managing to give up 13 runs.

Yeah if I were a Cardinals fan the only takeaway of any importance from that series is that Adam Wainwright still looks like warmed over dogshit.
Whereas John Lackey, our new hero, looks like a classic representation of Adonis.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 11, 2016, 11:55:34 AM
Quote from: CBStew on April 11, 2016, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 11:30:46 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 11, 2016, 11:29:54 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 10:48:26 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 11, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 11, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
The Cubs also gave up almost half as many runs on those random, unrelated days.

I usually do not engage him but I did respond with:

Cubs 5-1, Cardinals 3-3
Cubs 42 runs, Cardinals 38
Cubs 15 runs allowed, Cardinals 28
Cubs team batting average: .282, Cardinals .242
But you guys do lead the majors in errors, so kudos.

You might also want to bring up the fact that the Braves couldn't play .500 ball in the Southern League.

I did say "good job beating the team that's trying to lose as many games as possible."
And still managing to give up 13 runs.

Yeah if I were a Cardinals fan the only takeaway of any importance from that series is that Adam Wainwright still looks like warmed over dogshit.
Whereas John Lackey, our new hero, looks like a classic representation of Adonis.

I mean, Lackey is anywhere from our 3rd-5th starter. His success is nowhere near as vital to the Cubs as Wainwright is to the Cardinals, since they were depending on him being vintage Wainwright in order to make up for losing Lackey and his 2.77 ERA last year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on April 11, 2016, 01:05:55 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 11, 2016, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 11, 2016, 07:24:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/B1a4qwz.jpg)

Via my racist uncle's facebook.

This is just fucking pathetic.

It reminds me of the "Randal Grichuk is MY Rookie of the Year" shit from last season.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 18, 2016, 05:22:14 PM
Is no one else jacked for this series? Yes, it's April. Yes, it's just another series out of many. Yes, the Cubes just dropped a series to Colorado. But it's still the shit-ass Kyardnulls. I want fucking blood, damn it. Sweep sweep sweep. I want multi-HR games from Heyward and a no-hitter for the "trader" mouthbreather. Let's do this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 18, 2016, 09:27:05 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 18, 2016, 05:22:14 PM
Is no one else jacked for this series? Yes, it's April. Yes, it's just another series out of many. Yes, the Cubes just dropped a series to Colorado. But it's still the shit-ass Kyardnulls. I want fucking blood, damn it. Sweep sweep sweep. I want multi-HR games from Heyward and a no-hitter for the "trader" mouthbreather. Let's do this.

Sweeping while Jake and Lester watch? I can get on board with that.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 03:03:14 AM
Quote from: @LangoschMLB (who no doubt thought this was awesome)#STLCards shut off music as #Cubs take BP and have their rolling NL Central title banners from 2013, 2014 and 2015 on the jumbotron. #subtle

Wow.  Pretty pathetic.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 19, 2016, 07:25:36 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 03:03:14 AM
Quote from: @LangoschMLB (who no doubt thought this was awesome)#STLCards shut off music as #Cubs take BP and have their rolling NL Central title banners from 2013, 2014 and 2015 on the jumbotron. #subtle

Wow.  Pretty pathetic.

Only the fucking Cardinals would brag about their 2015 division championship to the team that rendered it completely moot by kicking their sorry asses right out of the division series.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 19, 2016, 07:53:04 AM
I keep seeing the Cardinals fans saying "it's okay, we have way more favorable pitching matchups in the rest of the series", which I will maybe concede in the case of Hammel/Garcia (although Hammel has been better so far this year and First Half Hammel is a different beast entirely), but Carlos Martinez isn't any better than Kyle Hendricks no matter how hard he throws.

Last year:
Hendricks 3.28 xFIP, 3.4 fWAR
Martinez 3.25 xFIP, 3.4 fWAR

This year:
Hendricks: 2.26 xFIP, 0.5 fWAR
Martinez: 3.64 xFIP, 0.2 fWAR.


Small sample size this year but it's pretty safe to say that Martinez is not a DECIDED advantage over Hendricks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on April 19, 2016, 08:00:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 07:53:04 AM
I keep seeing the Cardinals fans saying "it's okay, we have way more favorable pitching matchups in the rest of the series", which I will maybe concede in the case of Hammel/Garcia (although Hammel has been better so far this year and First Half Hammel is a different beast entirely), but Carlos Martinez isn't any better than Kyle Hendricks no matter how hard he throws.

That's all assuming Garcia doesn't somehow injure himself between now and the game tonight.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on April 19, 2016, 08:01:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 07:53:04 AM
I keep seeing the Cardinals fans saying "it's okay, we have way more favorable pitching matchups in the rest of the series", which I will maybe concede in the case of Hammel/Garcia (although Hammel has been better so far this year and First Half Hammel is a different beast entirely), but Carlos Martinez isn't any better than Kyle Hendricks no matter how hard he throws.

Last year:
Hendricks 3.28 xFIP, 3.4 fWAR
Martinez 3.25 xFIP, 3.4 fWAR

This year:
Hendricks: 2.26 xFIP, 0.5 fWAR
Martinez: 3.64 xFIP, 0.2 fWAR.


Small sample size this year but it's pretty safe to say that Martinez is not a DECIDED advantage over Hendricks.

At some point we're going to have to concede that Hendricks is a really good option for the back of the rotation. Any rotation. By we, I mean me.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 19, 2016, 08:02:49 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 19, 2016, 08:01:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 07:53:04 AM
I keep seeing the Cardinals fans saying "it's okay, we have way more favorable pitching matchups in the rest of the series", which I will maybe concede in the case of Hammel/Garcia (although Hammel has been better so far this year and First Half Hammel is a different beast entirely), but Carlos Martinez isn't any better than Kyle Hendricks no matter how hard he throws.

Last year:
Hendricks 3.28 xFIP, 3.4 fWAR
Martinez 3.25 xFIP, 3.4 fWAR

This year:
Hendricks: 2.26 xFIP, 0.5 fWAR
Martinez: 3.64 xFIP, 0.2 fWAR.


Small sample size this year but it's pretty safe to say that Martinez is not a DECIDED advantage over Hendricks.

At some point we're going to have to concede that Hendricks is a really good option for the back of the rotation. Any rotation. By we, I mean me.

I have long accepted that I am fine with Kyle Hendricks so long as the Cubs are not in a position where he's starting an elimination game in the playoffs. As far as back of the rotation people go, especially with Joe having so many long guys now in the bullpen and a willingness to pull Kyle as soon as he gets in trouble the third time through the order, he's about as good as it gets. For 18 batters, he's an ace.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 19, 2016, 08:05:52 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 19, 2016, 08:00:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 07:53:04 AM
I keep seeing the Cardinals fans saying "it's okay, we have way more favorable pitching matchups in the rest of the series", which I will maybe concede in the case of Hammel/Garcia (although Hammel has been better so far this year and First Half Hammel is a different beast entirely), but Carlos Martinez isn't any better than Kyle Hendricks no matter how hard he throws.

That's all assuming Garcia doesn't somehow injure himself between now and the game tonight.

Indeed. Cardinals fans are desperately clinging to this idea that their pitching is still better than ours, and that wasn't even actually the case last year (Cubs led in FIP, xFIP, FIP-, DRA and all the other advanced run prevention statistics beyond just simple ERA, I believe), let alone this year with Lackey in Chicago and Wainwright looking like he has nothing left.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 19, 2016, 08:20:07 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 03:03:14 AM
Quote from: @LangoschMLB (who no doubt thought this was awesome)#STLCards shut off music as #Cubs take BP and have their rolling NL Central title banners from 2013, 2014 and 2015 on the jumbotron. #subtle

Wow.  Pretty pathetic.

Their troll game is clearly on point (http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2016/4/18/11456838/busch-stadium-played-chelsea-dagger-and-st-louis-fans-hated-it).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on April 19, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 08:05:52 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 19, 2016, 08:00:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 07:53:04 AM
I keep seeing the Cardinals fans saying "it's okay, we have way more favorable pitching matchups in the rest of the series", which I will maybe concede in the case of Hammel/Garcia (although Hammel has been better so far this year and First Half Hammel is a different beast entirely), but Carlos Martinez isn't any better than Kyle Hendricks no matter how hard he throws.

That's all assuming Garcia doesn't somehow injure himself between now and the game tonight.

Indeed. Cardinals fans are desperately clinging to this idea that their pitching is still better than ours, and that wasn't even actually the case last year (Cubs led in FIP, xFIP, FIP-, DRA and all the other advanced run prevention statistics beyond just simple ERA, I believe), let alone this year with Lackey in Chicago and Wainwright looking like he has nothing left.

I was extremely impressed with Lackey last night.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tony on April 19, 2016, 11:38:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

And they traded for him. It's not like he went there on his own and then left years later.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on April 19, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.

Their acme was 1904 when they hosted the Olympics.  They've spent every calendar year since resenting Chicago's superiority. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.

Their acme was 1904 when they hosted the Olympics.  They've spent every calendar year since resenting Chicago's superiority. 

You mean the World's Fair?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on April 19, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.

Their acme was 1904 when they hosted the Olympics.  They've spent every calendar year since resenting Chicago's superiority. 

You mean the World's Fair?

They hosted both, but they stole the Olympics away from Chicago.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 19, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.

Their acme was 1904 when they hosted the Olympics.  They've spent every calendar year since resenting Chicago's superiority. 

You mean the World's Fair?

They hosted both, but they stole the Olympics away from Chicago.

I see that now. That's some shit, there.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on April 19, 2016, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 19, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.

Their acme was 1904 when they hosted the Olympics.  They've spent every calendar year since resenting Chicago's superiority.  

You mean the World's Fair?

They hosted both, but they stole the Olympics away from Chicago.

I see that now. That's some shit, there.

We spend far too much time thinking about St. Louis. It's not healthy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on April 19, 2016, 12:49:46 PM
Quote from: flannj on April 19, 2016, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 19, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.

Their acme was 1904 when they hosted the Olympics.  They've spent every calendar year since resenting Chicago's superiority.  

You mean the World's Fair?

They hosted both, but they stole the Olympics away from Chicago.

I see that now. That's some shit, there.

We spend far too much time thinking about St. Louis. It's not healthy.

It's even less healthy to spend more than 10 seconds in that shithole.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on April 19, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
Not sure if this has been covered, but Deadspin is posting every single time the Cardinals lose this year.  (http://deadspin.com/the-cardinals-lost-their-sixth-game-1771732699?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 19, 2016, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: flannj on April 19, 2016, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 19, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.

Their acme was 1904 when they hosted the Olympics.  They've spent every calendar year since resenting Chicago's superiority.  

You mean the World's Fair?

They hosted both, but they stole the Olympics away from Chicago.

I see that now. That's some shit, there.

We spend far too much time thinking about St. Louis. It's not healthy.

Nah, let's laugh at them until it's no longer funny. I give it a few more decades.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on April 19, 2016, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 19, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
Not sure if this has been covered, but Deadspin is posting every single time the Cardinals lose this year.  (http://deadspin.com/the-cardinals-lost-their-sixth-game-1771732699?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

I don't know if I saw it here, but I have been enjoying it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on April 19, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

Is anybody surprised by this? Lot of Cardinal fans have Klan sheets hanging in their closets. This is the White Trashiest fanbase in baseball and it's not even close.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on April 19, 2016, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 19, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 19, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

The guy only played a season there. Why on earth are they so mad? And they'll be the first ones to point out that the contract the Cubs gave him was terrible.

Because someone picked the Cubs over the Cardinals, and that's unthinkable to them, because their entire world falls apart if they aren't better than the Cubs. Gonna be a rough decade for them.

Honestly, can anyone think of one way St. Louis has really EVER been better than Chicago outside of baseball success? If the Cubs are appreciably better than the Cardinals for a sustained period of time, their entire city has no reason to exist.
When it comes to humidity, St. Loogey has Chicago beat by a mile.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on April 19, 2016, 10:41:07 PM

God Damn.  I just despise the Cardinals.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 20, 2016, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 19, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

Is anybody surprised by this? Lot of Cardinal fans have Klan sheets hanging in their closets. This is the White Trashiest fanbase in baseball and it's not even close.
Cardinal fans suck, but in this particular instance it appears to have been a fabrication.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 20, 2016, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 20, 2016, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 19, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

Is anybody surprised by this? Lot of Cardinal fans have Klan sheets hanging in their closets. This is the White Trashiest fanbase in baseball and it's not even close.
Cardinal fans suck, but in this particular instance it appears to have been a fabrication.

I really enjoyed Cardinals fans (and their broadcast booth) getting all indignant about being defamed like that. HOW DARE someone besmirch Cardinal nation. What on Earth would give anyone the impression that Cardinals fans could ever do something like tha---
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pkHGPs87--/sngrlfyqhwgzf0g7rw2j.jpg)

Oh. Right. Not to mention one quick search of Jason Heyward's twitter mentions the day he signed with the Cubs would turn up about 5,000 n-words probably.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on April 20, 2016, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 20, 2016, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 20, 2016, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 19, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

Is anybody surprised by this? Lot of Cardinal fans have Klan sheets hanging in their closets. This is the White Trashiest fanbase in baseball and it's not even close.
Cardinal fans suck, but in this particular instance it appears to have been a fabrication.

I really enjoyed Cardinals fans (and their broadcast booth) getting all indignant about being defamed like that. HOW DARE someone besmirch Cardinal nation. What on Earth would give anyone the impression that Cardinals fans could ever do something like tha---
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pkHGPs87--/sngrlfyqhwgzf0g7rw2j.jpg)

Oh. Right. Not to mention one quick search of Jason Heyward's twitter mentions the day he signed with the Cubs would turn up about 5,000 n-words probably.

Poor guy. Looks like he's balding early.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on April 20, 2016, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 20, 2016, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 20, 2016, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 19, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

Is anybody surprised by this? Lot of Cardinal fans have Klan sheets hanging in their closets. This is the White Trashiest fanbase in baseball and it's not even close.
Cardinal fans suck, but in this particular instance it appears to have been a fabrication.

I really enjoyed Cardinals fans (and their broadcast booth) getting all indignant about being defamed like that. HOW DARE someone besmirch Cardinal nation. What on Earth would give anyone the impression that Cardinals fans could ever do something like tha---
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pkHGPs87--/sngrlfyqhwgzf0g7rw2j.jpg)

Oh. Right. Not to mention one quick search of Jason Heyward's twitter mentions the day he signed with the Cubs would turn up about 5,000 n-words probably.

Either everyone deleted them or it never happened. "n***** @jheytwotwo" is empty. "n***** heyward" only has Cubs fans claiming Cardinals fans were saying that on 12/11 (The day the news broke)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on April 20, 2016, 11:04:22 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 20, 2016, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 20, 2016, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 20, 2016, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 19, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

Is anybody surprised by this? Lot of Cardinal fans have Klan sheets hanging in their closets. This is the White Trashiest fanbase in baseball and it's not even close.
Cardinal fans suck, but in this particular instance it appears to have been a fabrication.

I really enjoyed Cardinals fans (and their broadcast booth) getting all indignant about being defamed like that. HOW DARE someone besmirch Cardinal nation. What on Earth would give anyone the impression that Cardinals fans could ever do something like tha---
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pkHGPs87--/sngrlfyqhwgzf0g7rw2j.jpg)

Oh. Right. Not to mention one quick search of Jason Heyward's twitter mentions the day he signed with the Cubs would turn up about 5,000 n-words probably.

Either everyone deleted them or it never happened. "n***** @jheytwotwo" is empty. "n***** heyward" only has Cubs fans claiming Cardinals fans were saying that on 12/11 (The day the news broke)

Though we do have injury wishes, one "faggot", and someone discussing about teams built around white players: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3ABestFansStLouis%20since%3A2015-12-10%20until%3A2015-12-14&src=typd
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 20, 2016, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 20, 2016, 11:04:22 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 20, 2016, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 20, 2016, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 20, 2016, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 19, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: morpheus on April 19, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Stay Classy, St. Louis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jason-heyward-blitzed-n-word-taunts-cardinals-fans-article-1.2606853?cid=bitly

Is anybody surprised by this? Lot of Cardinal fans have Klan sheets hanging in their closets. This is the White Trashiest fanbase in baseball and it's not even close.
Cardinal fans suck, but in this particular instance it appears to have been a fabrication.

I really enjoyed Cardinals fans (and their broadcast booth) getting all indignant about being defamed like that. HOW DARE someone besmirch Cardinal nation. What on Earth would give anyone the impression that Cardinals fans could ever do something like tha---
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pkHGPs87--/sngrlfyqhwgzf0g7rw2j.jpg)

Oh. Right. Not to mention one quick search of Jason Heyward's twitter mentions the day he signed with the Cubs would turn up about 5,000 n-words probably.

Either everyone deleted them or it never happened. "n***** @jheytwotwo" is empty. "n***** heyward" only has Cubs fans claiming Cardinals fans were saying that on 12/11 (The day the news broke)

Though we do have injury wishes, one "faggot", and someone discussing about teams built around white players: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3ABestFansStLouis%20since%3A2015-12-10%20until%3A2015-12-14&src=typd

Fair enough, I also am guilty of assuming that at least some of that vitriol included overt racism, instead of just implied. My favorite was the guy who said "you have to worry about off-field issues with a guy like Heyward" and refused to clarify no matter how many times he was pressed on it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 20, 2016, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 20, 2016, 11:04:22 AM

Though we do have injury wishes, one "faggot", and someone discussing about teams built around white players: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3ABestFansStLouis%20since%3A2015-12-10%20until%3A2015-12-14&src=typd

And that's just Phyllis Schafly.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 20, 2016, 06:39:01 PM
Not even the BFIB love their team enough to wait out a long rain delay.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 20, 2016, 06:48:35 PM
DPD. Okay. Next time they get Jake and Jon.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 21, 2016, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 20, 2016, 06:48:35 PM
DPD. Okay. Next time they get Jake and Jon.

TPD. Imagining Jake no-hitting the Cardinals at "Bush" is requiring a pants readjustment. Imagining Molina whiffing on a slider in the dirt to end it and throwing a spectacular hissy fit is requiring a new set of pants entirely.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on April 26, 2016, 02:51:19 AM
Last night, Greinke allowed seven runs over six and two-thirds, and still got the W: the Tards' bullpen inherited six runners, and let five of them score.  Woof.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 26, 2016, 07:59:30 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 26, 2016, 02:51:19 AM
Last night, Greinke allowed seven runs over six and two-thirds, and still got the W: the Tards' bullpen inherited six runners, and let five of them score.  Woof.

Regression's a bitch. It's what they deserve after that inexplicable LOB magic they managed to pull off all season last year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on April 26, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2016, 07:59:30 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 26, 2016, 02:51:19 AM
Last night, Greinke allowed seven runs over six and two-thirds, and still got the W: the Tards' bullpen inherited six runners, and let five of them score.  Woof.

Regression's a bitch. It's what they deserve after that inexplicable LOB magic they managed to pull off all season last year.

I recall reading an article last October which stated that Mike Matheny has such atrocious bullpen management skills that he'd literally do better if he picked a reliever at random.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 26, 2016, 09:00:28 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 26, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2016, 07:59:30 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 26, 2016, 02:51:19 AM
Last night, Greinke allowed seven runs over six and two-thirds, and still got the W: the Tards' bullpen inherited six runners, and let five of them score.  Woof.

Regression's a bitch. It's what they deserve after that inexplicable LOB magic they managed to pull off all season last year.

I recall reading an article last October which stated that Mike Matheny has such atrocious bullpen management skills that he'd literally do better if he picked a reliever at random.

Yeah I believe that was one of the last things Grantland did, but you're right. They had a computer calculate the optimal reliever to use in each situation for each team, and found that most managers were within like 1 or 2 standard deviations from the machine, but Matheny was dead last, for like three years running, in terms of optimal bullpen choices.

Like, for instance, using a lefty reliever who can't get lefties out to face Rizzo, a lefty who hits other lefties even better than he hits righties, and then doing it again the next night even though it resulted in a soul-crushing dinger the day before. That will never, ever stop being funny.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 28, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
Aledmys Diaz, Jeremy Hazelbaker, and Jedd fucking Gyorko.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on April 28, 2016, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
Aledmys Diaz, Jeremy Hazelbaker, and Jedd fucking Gyorko.

I was looking at their numbers this morning.  How is that even possible?  The trouble is, they're keeping the Tards afloat whilst the guys that can actually bat a bit warm up.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 28, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 28, 2016, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
Aledmys Diaz, Jeremy Hazelbaker, and Jedd fucking Gyorko.

I was looking at their numbers this morning.  How is that even possible?  The trouble is, they're keeping the Tards afloat whilst the guys that can actually bat a bit warm up.

Yeah that's what's really irritating. Their starting pitching this year is mostly mediocre, and the expected regression from Grichuk appears to be happening, so they just pull two more magic rookies out of their fucking asses and keep on trucking.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on April 28, 2016, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
Aledmys Diaz, Jeremy Hazelbaker, and Jedd fucking Gyorko.

Diaz: Fuck that dude, but......... .455 BABIP. Second in MLB (Let's ignore that Dexter leads the league with.458)
Hazelbaker: .161/.212/.419 in last 33 PAs
Gyorko, literally, has half of his hits from 2 games.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 28, 2016, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

When it's mid-September and they're 10 games back, maybe we can revisit this then.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on April 28, 2016, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 28, 2016, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
Aledmys Diaz, Jeremy Hazelbaker, and Jedd fucking Gyorko.

I was looking at their numbers this morning.  How is that even possible?  The trouble is, they're keeping the Tards afloat whilst the guys that can actually bat a bit warm up.

Yeah that's what's really irritating. Their starting pitching this year is mostly mediocre, and the expected regression from Grichuk appears to be happening, so they just pull two more magic rookies out of their fucking asses and keep on trucking.

Who gives a shit?  The Cubs are 15-5.  Fuck those clowns.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on April 28, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

Fork does.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 28, 2016, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

Fork does.

I mean, I think the Cubs are going to win the division/pennant/World Series this year, I did not realize I could no longer be irritated by anything involving the Cardinals. I was looking forward to punching down on them for years, the schadenfreude is made a bit more difficult when they keep scoring 15 runs a game inexplicably.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on April 28, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

Fork does.

I mean, I think the Cubs are going to win the division/pennant/World Series this year, I did not realize I could no longer be irritated by anything involving the Cardinals. I was looking forward to punching down on them for years, the schadenfreude is made a bit more difficult when they keep scoring 15 runs a game inexplicably.

I think Eli was referring to the "They don't fucking matter." line.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 28, 2016, 11:04:53 AM
Quote from: Oleg on April 28, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

Fork does.

I mean, I think the Cubs are going to win the division/pennant/World Series this year, I did not realize I could no longer be irritated by anything involving the Cardinals. I was looking forward to punching down on them for years, the schadenfreude is made a bit more difficult when they keep scoring 15 runs a game inexplicably.

I think Eli was referring to the "They don't fucking matter." line.

Oh I know what Eli was referencing, I just don't get the "who cares about the Cardinals?" idea from Fork and Huey. I can be irritated by their continued existence and refusal to go away and die without it having anything to do with my feelings regarding the Cubs chances. I want bad things to happen to them regardless of whether the Cubs win 160 games or 60.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on April 28, 2016, 11:07:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 11:04:53 AM
Quote from: Oleg on April 28, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2016, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

Fork does.

I mean, I think the Cubs are going to win the division/pennant/World Series this year, I did not realize I could no longer be irritated by anything involving the Cardinals. I was looking forward to punching down on them for years, the schadenfreude is made a bit more difficult when they keep scoring 15 runs a game inexplicably.

I think Eli was referring to the "They don't fucking matter." line.

Oh I know what Eli was referencing, I just don't get the "who cares about the Cardinals?" idea from Fork and Huey. I can be irritated by their continued existence and refusal to go away and die without it having anything to do with my feelings regarding the Cubs chances. I want bad things to happen to them regardless of whether the Cubs win 160 games or 60.

Yeah, I'm with you now and I agree.  I mean, I don't give two shits about The White Sox.  But The Cardinals seem relevant.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 30, 2016, 08:25:55 PM
They finished April 7 behind the Cubs in the loss column.

Seriously, fuck these guys. This year is the cratering we've all been waiting for.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:14:13 AM
Under .500.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on May 02, 2016, 08:34:23 AM
No, I intend to pay attention to the Cardinals this year. Specifically when they play the Cubs, but in general, because I want this to be a season that leaves them feeling frustrated and sick to their stomachs, because they are so dramatically outclassed by their division rivals.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 02, 2016, 08:34:23 AM
No, I intend to pay attention to the Cardinals this year. Specifically when they play the Cubs, but in general, because I want this to be a season that leaves them feeling frustrated and sick to their stomachs, because they are so dramatically outclassed by their division rivals.

What's cracking me up is the number of Cardinals fans I see already giving up on the season. Busch will be half empty by September.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on May 02, 2016, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 02, 2016, 08:34:23 AM
No, I intend to pay attention to the Cardinals this year. Specifically when they play the Cubs, but in general, because I want this to be a season that leaves them feeling frustrated and sick to their stomachs, because they are so dramatically outclassed by their division rivals.

What's cracking me up is the number of Cardinals fans I see already giving up on the season. Busch will be half empty by September.

Not likely. They'll probably still win 85 games because God sucks
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: Yeti on May 02, 2016, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 02, 2016, 08:34:23 AM
No, I intend to pay attention to the Cardinals this year. Specifically when they play the Cubs, but in general, because I want this to be a season that leaves them feeling frustrated and sick to their stomachs, because they are so dramatically outclassed by their division rivals.

What's cracking me up is the number of Cardinals fans I see already giving up on the season. Busch will be half empty by September.

Not likely. They'll probably still win 85 games because God sucks

Oh they will but Busch will still be half empty. Cardinals fans are so entitled now they are pissed about having to compete for the wildcard. I saw multiple comments on VEB saying "I'm not watching 162 games just to see if they can make a 1 game playoff."

Hell, last year the stadium was half full of Cubs fans during the playoffs and you could still get tickets at face value on the day of game one because a lot of them don't even really give a shit until they've at least advanced to the NLCS.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 02, 2016, 09:15:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: Yeti on May 02, 2016, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 02, 2016, 08:34:23 AM
No, I intend to pay attention to the Cardinals this year. Specifically when they play the Cubs, but in general, because I want this to be a season that leaves them feeling frustrated and sick to their stomachs, because they are so dramatically outclassed by their division rivals.

What's cracking me up is the number of Cardinals fans I see already giving up on the season. Busch will be half empty by September.

Not likely. They'll probably still win 85 games because God sucks

Oh they will but Busch will still be half empty. Cardinals fans are so entitled now they are pissed about having to compete for the wildcard. I saw multiple comments on VEB saying "I'm not watching 162 games just to see if they can make a 1 game playoff."

Hell, last year the stadium was half full of Cubs fans during the playoffs and you could still get tickets at face value on the day of game one because a lot of them don't even really give a shit until they've at least advanced to the NLCS.

St. Louis is more of a football town really.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on May 02, 2016, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 02, 2016, 09:15:58 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: Yeti on May 02, 2016, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 02, 2016, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 02, 2016, 08:34:23 AM
No, I intend to pay attention to the Cardinals this year. Specifically when they play the Cubs, but in general, because I want this to be a season that leaves them feeling frustrated and sick to their stomachs, because they are so dramatically outclassed by their division rivals.

What's cracking me up is the number of Cardinals fans I see already giving up on the season. Busch will be half empty by September.

Not likely. They'll probably still win 85 games because God sucks

Oh they will but Busch will still be half empty. Cardinals fans are so entitled now they are pissed about having to compete for the wildcard. I saw multiple comments on VEB saying "I'm not watching 162 games just to see if they can make a 1 game playoff."

Hell, last year the stadium was half full of Cubs fans during the playoffs and you could still get tickets at face value on the day of game one because a lot of them don't even really give a shit until they've at least advanced to the NLCS.

St. Louis is more of a football town really.

They're still holding out for the Hawks to come back.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

QuoteOn his podcasts last year, Bill Simmons spent a lot of time talking about football teams' "relevant games." (I'm certainly getting the term wrong.) The idea is that you measure a team based on its record in games against other competitive teams.

I've been thinking about this concept a lot lately, watching day after day of lousy games between the top and bottom halves of the National League. We just don't learn all that much when the Mets beat the Braves 8-0, or the Cubs sweep the Reds, or the Pirates wax the Rockies. The 2016 National League is a historically notable mix of nine teams trying to win and six teams trying to gain draft budget. The standings don't quite fall that way just yet -- the Rockies and Phillies are hanging around .500, while the Diamondbacks have fallen into last place -- but there's an excellent chance that come October, the league will have split nicely along these lines.

What if we port Simmons's concept to baseball, creating a nine-team mini-league of the nine NL teams seeking to contend in 2016? Those teams will play about half their total schedule against each other, 74 to 80 games each. If we want to get a sense of how good these teams are, maybe it's better to isolate their games against one another. Here's how NL-Prime looks this morning:

NL' Standings

Cubs                   9  2  .818
Marlins           13  6  .684
Nationals         6  4  .600
Pirates            5  4  .556
Mets               3  3  .500
Diamondbacks  9 12  .429
Giants             7 10  .412
Dodgers           5  9  .357
Cardinals         3 10  .231


It's not like we were looking for another reason to believe in the Cubs, but that 9-2 mark against the NL's competitive class gives us one. The Cubs, in the midst of a four-game series against the Nationals that could separate them even further, are beating good teams, bad teams...everyone. It's a sight to see.

I'll admit to some shock at seeing how well the Marlins placed. Sweeps of the Diamondbacks and Dodgers gave them a boost, with an overall record of 8-2 against the NL West-Prime.

This is, admittedly, a trifle. All 162 games count, and if one of the good teams in the league goes 17-22 against the bad teams, well, that's both possible and costly. Conversely, the Mets earned a division title a year ago by going 86-3 or something against the Braves, Phillies, Reds and Rockies, and pennants also fly forever. (The Mets also went 11-8 against the Nationals, remember, including sweeps in August and September that went a long way towards deciding the division.)

On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on May 06, 2016, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

QuoteOn his podcasts last year, Bill Simmons spent a lot of time talking about football teams' "relevant games." (I'm certainly getting the term wrong.) The idea is that you measure a team based on its record in games against other competitive teams.

I've been thinking about this concept a lot lately, watching day after day of lousy games between the top and bottom halves of the National League. We just don't learn all that much when the Mets beat the Braves 8-0, or the Cubs sweep the Reds, or the Pirates wax the Rockies. The 2016 National League is a historically notable mix of nine teams trying to win and six teams trying to gain draft budget. The standings don't quite fall that way just yet -- the Rockies and Phillies are hanging around .500, while the Diamondbacks have fallen into last place -- but there's an excellent chance that come October, the league will have split nicely along these lines.

What if we port Simmons's concept to baseball, creating a nine-team mini-league of the nine NL teams seeking to contend in 2016? Those teams will play about half their total schedule against each other, 74 to 80 games each. If we want to get a sense of how good these teams are, maybe it's better to isolate their games against one another. Here's how NL-Prime looks this morning:

NL' Standings

Cubs                   9  2  .818
Marlins           13  6  .684
Nationals         6  4  .600
Pirates            5  4  .556
Mets               3  3  .500
Diamondbacks  9 12  .429
Giants             7 10  .412
Dodgers           5  9  .357
Cardinals         3 10  .231


It's not like we were looking for another reason to believe in the Cubs, but that 9-2 mark against the NL's competitive class gives us one. The Cubs, in the midst of a four-game series against the Nationals that could separate them even further, are beating good teams, bad teams...everyone. It's a sight to see.

I'll admit to some shock at seeing how well the Marlins placed. Sweeps of the Diamondbacks and Dodgers gave them a boost, with an overall record of 8-2 against the NL West-Prime.

This is, admittedly, a trifle. All 162 games count, and if one of the good teams in the league goes 17-22 against the bad teams, well, that's both possible and costly. Conversely, the Mets earned a division title a year ago by going 86-3 or something against the Braves, Phillies, Reds and Rockies, and pennants also fly forever. (The Mets also went 11-8 against the Nationals, remember, including sweeps in August and September that went a long way towards deciding the division.)

On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

AHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

Quote
On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

It could also give a clearer picture of who will/won't succeed come the postseason.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 06, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

Quote
On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

It could also give a clearer picture of who will/won't succeed come the postseason.

It could. Let's look at those numbers in late September and see what we can find out.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 06, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

Quote
On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

It could also give a clearer picture of who will/won't succeed come the postseason.

It could. Let's look at those numbers in late September and see what we can find out.

How's the 27th at 1:30 in the afternoon?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on May 06, 2016, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

Quote
On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

It could also give a clearer picture of who will/won't succeed come the postseason.

Smarter people may disagree, but I've really come to believe that the postseason is a total crapshoot. I don't think anything can prepare us for what might, or might not, happen.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on May 06, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 06, 2016, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

Quote
On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

It could also give a clearer picture of who will/won't succeed come the postseason.

Smarter people may disagree, but I've really come to believe that the postseason is a total crapshoot. I don't think anything can prepare us for what might, or might not, happen.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on May 06, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 06, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 06, 2016, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

Quote
On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

It could also give a clearer picture of who will/won't succeed come the postseason.

Smarter people may disagree, but I've really come to believe that the postseason is a total crapshoot. I don't think anything can prepare us for what might, or might not, happen.

Thanks.

Groundbreaking stuff.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 06, 2016, 03:09:25 PM
Anyway, Cardinals suck. We have proof.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 06, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 06, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 06, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 06, 2016, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

Quote
On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

It could also give a clearer picture of who will/won't succeed come the postseason.

Smarter people may disagree, but I've really come to believe that the postseason is a total crapshoot. I don't think anything can prepare us for what might, or might not, happen.

Thanks.

Groundbreaking stuff.

Absolutely staggering.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on May 06, 2016, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 06, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 06, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 06, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 06, 2016, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 06, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
From Joe Sheehan's latest:

Quote
On the other hand, special circumstances call for special tools, and I think it will be fun to monitor NL-Prime throughout the season, to give us an idea of how the non-tanking teams are doing against each other.

It could also give a clearer picture of who will/won't succeed come the postseason.

Smarter people may disagree, but I've really come to believe that the postseason is a total crapshoot. I don't think anything can prepare us for what might, or might not, happen.

Thanks.

Groundbreaking stuff.

Absolutely staggering.

Thanks! I'm thinking about starting a blog, where I can collect all my thoughts in an organized manner.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 07:42:40 AM
 Bump for a Sunday ass whooping at the hands of the Pirates and Jordy Mercer or whatever.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

This year will be fucking Lions/Christians. The Cubs are on the 1984 Tigers track.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on May 09, 2016, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

This year will be fucking Lions/Christians. The Cubs are on the 1984 Tigers track.

Internet Braggadocio Fork remains one of the most amusing Desipio characters to me.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 11:23:47 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2016, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

This year will be fucking Lions/Christians. The Cubs are on the 1984 Tigers track.

Internet Braggadocio Fork remains one of the most amusing Desipio characters to me.

As a wise man once said, it ain't bragging if you can back it up.

Or if 25 professional baseball players can back it up.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 09, 2016, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2016, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

This year will be fucking Lions/Christians. The Cubs are on the 1984 Tigers track.

Internet Braggadocio Fork remains one of the most amusing Desipio characters to me.

To be fair to  Fork they actually  are on that 84 Tigers  track?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 10, 2016, 05:11:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 09, 2016, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 09, 2016, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

This year will be fucking Lions/Christians. The Cubs are on the 1984 Tigers track.

Internet Braggadocio Fork remains one of the most amusing Desipio characters to me.

To be fair to  Fork they actually  are on that 84 Tigers  track?

Also, at the risk of putting too fine a point on it, this team is working as designed. We spent all winter being giddy at the juggernaut being built, and now the plan is coming to fruition.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

I agree with most of this assessment of the NL except for "Giants will win the NL West going away". I agree the Dodgers are mediocre but I don't see how the Giants aren't equally mediocre. The Dodgers have a half decent offense, shitty bullpen, one mega elite pitcher, a promising #2, and a bunch of flotsam in the back of the rotation. The Giants have a pretty good offense, mediocre bullpen, three average looking starters (MadBum and Cueto both have lost velocity and look far more hittable than they used to, Snork is Snork), and two unplayable guys (Cain and Peavy).

Those two are gonna mud hump each other all season long in a slog to 85 wins and first place, I think.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 10, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

I agree with most of this assessment of the NL except for "Giants will win the NL West going away". I agree the Dodgers are mediocre but I don't see how the Giants aren't equally mediocre. The Dodgers have a half decent offense, shitty bullpen, one mega elite pitcher, a promising #2, and a bunch of flotsam in the back of the rotation. The Giants have a pretty good offense, mediocre bullpen, three average looking starters (MadBum and Cueto both have lost velocity and look far more hittable than they used to, Snork is Snork), and two unplayable guys (Cain and Peavy).

Those two are gonna mud hump each other all season long in a slog to 85 wins and first place, I think.

I think Bruce Bochy is a 2-5 win manager (I know I can't prove shit) and Dave Roberts is a Dusty-level ingrate (small sample size). So there's seven-ish wins right there. If I'm right about this, I claim no credit for it because I am doing very little to back it up. I've just watched a handful of each team's games and I know the players fairly well from past years. Watching the Dodgers, I cringe all to often at the lack of good choices Roberts has to work with. That pitching staff could rank near the middle bottom in spite of Kershaw and Maeda. The Japanese newcomer has some good control and looks like a suitable #2 but I'm seeing some stamina issues in the latter innings that I don't think can get better as the season wears on and opponents get more film on him.

/my two cents!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:52:55 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 10, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

I agree with most of this assessment of the NL except for "Giants will win the NL West going away". I agree the Dodgers are mediocre but I don't see how the Giants aren't equally mediocre. The Dodgers have a half decent offense, shitty bullpen, one mega elite pitcher, a promising #2, and a bunch of flotsam in the back of the rotation. The Giants have a pretty good offense, mediocre bullpen, three average looking starters (MadBum and Cueto both have lost velocity and look far more hittable than they used to, Snork is Snork), and two unplayable guys (Cain and Peavy).

Those two are gonna mud hump each other all season long in a slog to 85 wins and first place, I think.

I think Bruce Bochy is a 2-5 win manager (I know I can't prove shit) and Dave Roberts is a Dusty-level ingrate (small sample size). So there's seven-ish wins right there. If I'm right about this, I claim no credit for it because I am doing very little to back it up. I've just watched a handful of each team's games and I know the players fairly well from past years. Watching the Dodgers, I cringe all to often at the lack of good choices Roberts has to work with. That pitching staff could rank near the middle bottom in spite of Kershaw and Maeda. The Japanese newcomer has some good control and looks like a suitable #2 but I'm seeing some stamina issues in the latter innings that I don't think can get better as the season wears on and opponents get more film on him.

/my two cents!

Works for me. For now I'm sticking with "they both suck." The Dodgers also have a much better farm system and all of the money in the world to throw around come trade deadline, so they may be able to get more help than the Giants can.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on May 10, 2016, 08:04:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:52:55 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 10, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

I agree with most of this assessment of the NL except for "Giants will win the NL West going away". I agree the Dodgers are mediocre but I don't see how the Giants aren't equally mediocre. The Dodgers have a half decent offense, shitty bullpen, one mega elite pitcher, a promising #2, and a bunch of flotsam in the back of the rotation. The Giants have a pretty good offense, mediocre bullpen, three average looking starters (MadBum and Cueto both have lost velocity and look far more hittable than they used to, Snork is Snork), and two unplayable guys (Cain and Peavy).

Those two are gonna mud hump each other all season long in a slog to 85 wins and first place, I think.

I think Bruce Bochy is a 2-5 win manager (I know I can't prove shit) and Dave Roberts is a Dusty-level ingrate (small sample size). So there's seven-ish wins right there. If I'm right about this, I claim no credit for it because I am doing very little to back it up. I've just watched a handful of each team's games and I know the players fairly well from past years. Watching the Dodgers, I cringe all to often at the lack of good choices Roberts has to work with. That pitching staff could rank near the middle bottom in spite of Kershaw and Maeda. The Japanese newcomer has some good control and looks like a suitable #2 but I'm seeing some stamina issues in the latter innings that I don't think can get better as the season wears on and opponents get more film on him.

/my two cents!

Works for me. For now I'm sticking with "they both suck." The Dodgers also have a much better farm system and all of the money in the world to throw around come trade deadline, so they may be able to get more help than the Giants can.

Wonder how long we're going to be talking about the Dodgers and their mighty farm system and genius front office before they actually are considered even favorites in their own division, let alone the National League.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 10, 2016, 08:14:07 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 10, 2016, 08:04:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:52:55 AM
Works for me. For now I'm sticking with "they both suck." The Dodgers also have a much better farm system and all of the money in the world to throw around come trade deadline, so they may be able to get more help than the Giants can.

Wonder how long we're going to be talking about the Dodgers and their mighty farm system and genius front office before they actually are considered even favorites in their own division, let alone the National League.

I think their farm system is overrated but the Giants farm system is supposedly completely barren. I agree that I am also tired of hearing about how "obviously Friedman has a plan" when people question things like building a rotation of spare parts and discarded #3 starters and they end up being exactly as mediocre as people thought they would be.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on May 10, 2016, 09:21:51 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 10, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

I agree with most of this assessment of the NL except for "Giants will win the NL West going away". I agree the Dodgers are mediocre but I don't see how the Giants aren't equally mediocre. The Dodgers have a half decent offense, shitty bullpen, one mega elite pitcher, a promising #2, and a bunch of flotsam in the back of the rotation. The Giants have a pretty good offense, mediocre bullpen, three average looking starters (MadBum and Cueto both have lost velocity and look far more hittable than they used to, Snork is Snork), and two unplayable guys (Cain and Peavy).

Those two are gonna mud hump each other all season long in a slog to 85 wins and first place, I think.

I think Bruce Bochy is a 2-5 win manager (I know I can't prove shit) and Dave Roberts is a Dusty-level ingrate (small sample size). So there's seven-ish wins right there. If I'm right about this, I claim no credit for it because I am doing very little to back it up. I've just watched a handful of each team's games and I know the players fairly well from past years. Watching the Dodgers, I cringe all to often at the lack of good choices Roberts has to work with. That pitching staff could rank near the middle bottom in spite of Kershaw and Maeda. The Japanese newcomer has some good control and looks like a suitable #2 but I'm seeing some stamina issues in the latter innings that I don't think can get better as the season wears on and opponents get more film on him.

/my two cents!

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Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 10, 2016, 11:32:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 10, 2016, 09:21:51 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 10, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

I agree with most of this assessment of the NL except for "Giants will win the NL West going away". I agree the Dodgers are mediocre but I don't see how the Giants aren't equally mediocre. The Dodgers have a half decent offense, shitty bullpen, one mega elite pitcher, a promising #2, and a bunch of flotsam in the back of the rotation. The Giants have a pretty good offense, mediocre bullpen, three average looking starters (MadBum and Cueto both have lost velocity and look far more hittable than they used to, Snork is Snork), and two unplayable guys (Cain and Peavy).

Those two are gonna mud hump each other all season long in a slog to 85 wins and first place, I think.

I think Bruce Bochy is a 2-5 win manager (I know I can't prove shit) and Dave Roberts is a Dusty-level ingrate (small sample size). So there's seven-ish wins right there. If I'm right about this, I claim no credit for it because I am doing very little to back it up. I've just watched a handful of each team's games and I know the players fairly well from past years. Watching the Dodgers, I cringe all to often at the lack of good choices Roberts has to work with. That pitching staff could rank near the middle bottom in spite of Kershaw and Maeda. The Japanese newcomer has some good control and looks like a suitable #2 but I'm seeing some stamina issues in the latter innings that I don't think can get better as the season wears on and opponents get more film on him.

/my two cents!

An assessment based on your gut with no hard facts to back it up?

Is Apex the Dusty Baker of Desipio?

(pretty sure I'm the Ronnie Woo of Desipio)

Yes.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on May 10, 2016, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 10, 2016, 11:32:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 10, 2016, 09:21:51 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 10, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

You with me yet?

Remember last year the astounding amount of luck STL had?  Things we could quantify like the inordinate number of runners stranded etc., which was historic?  And that we were awaiting a regression to the norm?   A little bit of a regression occurred in the 2nd half of course but not enough to derail them for the division (though by the time they played the Cubs their luck was on empty).

It looks like the regression's simply coming back in full force this season.  I'll be surprised, not shocked, if they're still in contention for the SeligCard by Labor Day.  Amongst the Pirates, Nats/Mets and Dodgers/Giants, I don't see STL in that team photo.

The Dodgers are horrible. They have some pieces to build around for sure but that pitching staff isn't going to work. I don't know if a trade or two could keep them in contention this season. It might. But they're in the Cardinals' category of "nope." I'll gladly throw the D-Backs into that same toilet. The Giants will win the West going away. The Mets will end up winning the East. The Selig Card is Pirates/Nats.

Catastrophic injury could change all of this.

Right now this prognostication seems legit. There's no way I'm writing off a Cardinals comeback at least as it pertains to the wild card.

Giants, Nats, Mets are the biggest challengers and the Pirates are certainly better than the rest of the unmentioned NL clubs. I found out I've got a ticket to one of the Cubs-Mets games in July and I am fired up about it. I want a postseason rematch with those fucks.

I agree with most of this assessment of the NL except for "Giants will win the NL West going away". I agree the Dodgers are mediocre but I don't see how the Giants aren't equally mediocre. The Dodgers have a half decent offense, shitty bullpen, one mega elite pitcher, a promising #2, and a bunch of flotsam in the back of the rotation. The Giants have a pretty good offense, mediocre bullpen, three average looking starters (MadBum and Cueto both have lost velocity and look far more hittable than they used to, Snork is Snork), and two unplayable guys (Cain and Peavy).

Those two are gonna mud hump each other all season long in a slog to 85 wins and first place, I think.

I think Bruce Bochy is a 2-5 win manager (I know I can't prove shit) and Dave Roberts is a Dusty-level ingrate (small sample size). So there's seven-ish wins right there. If I'm right about this, I claim no credit for it because I am doing very little to back it up. I've just watched a handful of each team's games and I know the players fairly well from past years. Watching the Dodgers, I cringe all to often at the lack of good choices Roberts has to work with. That pitching staff could rank near the middle bottom in spite of Kershaw and Maeda. The Japanese newcomer has some good control and looks like a suitable #2 but I'm seeing some stamina issues in the latter innings that I don't think can get better as the season wears on and opponents get more film on him.

/my two cents!

An assessment based on your gut with no hard facts to back it up?

Is Apex the Dusty Baker of Desipio?

(pretty sure I'm the Ronnie Woo of Desipio)

Yes.
Yes
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 23, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
BOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 23, 2016, 10:24:10 PM
That was one hell of a two strike pitch from Warren to Cardinal Tyler Colvin
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 24, 2016, 08:28:56 AM
What the hell was Fowler doing so far off third with one out?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 24, 2016, 06:28:19 PM
HELL YES. THAT'S THE STUFF.

I want a gif of that Grichuk misplay right now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on May 25, 2016, 01:27:44 PM
So ... game over in the 7th inning via the mercy rule?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on May 25, 2016, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 24, 2016, 06:28:19 PM
HELL YES. THAT'S THE STUFF.

I want a gif of that Grichuk misplay right now.

You mean the 2015 Deserved Rookie of the Year?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 02:54:09 PM
That LaStella robbery was so fucking poetic it reminded me of Larry Johnson's 4-point ass-blasting of the Pacers in 1999. They get Baltimore chops out the yin-yang and Molina sticks his arm in front of one to load the bases in a 2-run game. Jake is teetering. Disaster strikes on a hard grounder third. Oops. No. Sorry. Inning over.

I've never seen that happen to the Cubs in St. Louis. The game is far from over but I'm fucking enthused.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 03:30:25 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 02:54:09 PM
That LaStella robbery was so fucking poetic it reminded me of Larry Johnson's 4-point ass-blasting of the Pacers in 1999. They get Baltimore chops out the yin-yang and Molina sticks his arm in front of one to load the bases in a 2-run game. Jake is teetering. Disaster strikes on a hard grounder third. Oops. No. Sorry. Inning over.

I've never seen that happen to the Cubs in St. Louis. The game is far from over but I'm fucking enthused.


God Damn It.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
Jed Jerkoff. (sigh of relief)

Hector's the best fielding pitcher on the team. I shall brook no argument.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on May 25, 2016, 04:30:20 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
Jed Jerkoff. (sigh of relief)

Hector's the best fielding pitcher on the team. I shall brook no argument.

As frustrating as it was to see Warren and Wood try to piss the game away, the fact that they let STL get close and still slam the door on their dick is rather satisfying.  Losing a game like that leaves you nothing but a big ole' case of blue balls, so have a drink tonight on your Cubs, folks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 25, 2016, 04:30:20 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
Jed Jerkoff. (sigh of relief)

Hector's the best fielding pitcher on the team. I shall brook no argument.

As frustrating as it was to see Warren and Wood try to piss the game away, the fact that they let STL get close and still slam the door on their dick is rather satisfying.  Losing a game like that leaves you nothing but a big ole' case of blue balls, so have a drink tonight on your Cubs, folks.

They did it!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 25, 2016, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah, that was kinda weird, but I'll take the series win.

Now we have an entire off-day to panic about Jake Arrieta, so let's make the most of it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 25, 2016, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah, that was kinda weird, but I'll take the series win.

Now we have an entire off-day to panic about Jake Arrieta, so let's make the most of it.

I'm not worried that the Cardinals hit the ball too slow to turn double plays in two different scoring innings. On a day like that you need every good bounce you can get.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 25, 2016, 06:26:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 25, 2016, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah, that was kinda weird, but I'll take the series win.

Now we have an entire off-day to panic about Jake Arrieta, so let's make the most of it.

I'm not at all worried, I'm thrilled he finally had an off day and they won anyway. Now he's good to pitch well for another 15 months

I'm not worried that the Cardinals hit the ball too slow to turn double plays in two different scoring innings. On a day like that you need every good bounce you can get.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on May 25, 2016, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 25, 2016, 06:26:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 25, 2016, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah, that was kinda weird, but I'll take the series win.

Now we have an entire off-day to panic about Jake Arrieta, so let's make the most of it.

I'm not at all worried, I'm thrilled he finally had an off day and they won anyway. Now he's good to pitch well for another 15 months

I'm not worried that the Cardinals hit the ball too slow to turn double plays in two different scoring innings. On a day like that you need every good bounce you can get.
INTREPID READER HUEY: STPO STALEING ME BIT!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on May 26, 2016, 12:15:32 AM
Quote from: Bort on May 25, 2016, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 25, 2016, 06:26:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 25, 2016, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah, that was kinda weird, but I'll take the series win.

Now we have an entire off-day to panic about Jake Arrieta, so let's make the most of it.

I thought his stuff looked really good today. Bucknor's strike zone was ... erratic. That plus some revenge of the BABIP gods = butt clenching victory over Cardinals.

I'm not at all worried, I'm thrilled he finally had an off day and they won anyway. Now he's good to pitch well for another 15 months

I'm not worried that the Cardinals hit the ball too slow to turn double plays in two different scoring innings. On a day like that you need every good bounce you can get.
INTREPID READER HUEY: STPO STALEING ME BIT!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on May 26, 2016, 05:31:15 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 26, 2016, 12:15:32 AM
Quote from: Bort on May 25, 2016, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 25, 2016, 06:26:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 25, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 25, 2016, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah, that was kinda weird, but I'll take the series win.

Now we have an entire off-day to panic about Jake Arrieta, so let's make the most of it.

I thought his stuff looked really good today. Bucknor's strike zone was ... erratic. That plus some revenge of the BABIP gods = butt clenching victory over Cardinals.

I'm not at all worried, I'm thrilled he finally had an off day and they won anyway. Now he's good to pitch well for another 15 months

I'm not worried that the Cardinals hit the ball too slow to turn double plays in two different scoring innings. On a day like that you need every good bounce you can get.
INTREPID READER HUEY: STPO STALEING ME BIT!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on May 26, 2016, 05:31:49 AM
Also, I had no idea that was my bit...
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on May 26, 2016, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 26, 2016, 05:31:49 AM
Also, I had no idea that was my bit...

It was originally Fork's, right?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 27, 2016, 08:22:40 AM
Quote from: Oleg on May 26, 2016, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 26, 2016, 05:31:49 AM
Also, I had no idea that was my bit...

It was originally Fork's, right?

Indeed.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on May 27, 2016, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 27, 2016, 08:22:40 AM
Quote from: Oleg on May 26, 2016, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 26, 2016, 05:31:49 AM
Also, I had no idea that was my bit...

It was originally Fork's, right?

Indeed.
Then we can safely assume it was stolen from Milton Berle, who stole it from Henny Youngman.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 27, 2016, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Bort on May 27, 2016, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 27, 2016, 08:22:40 AM
Quote from: Oleg on May 26, 2016, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 26, 2016, 05:31:49 AM
Also, I had no idea that was my bit...

It was originally Fork's, right?

Indeed.
Then we can safely assume it was stolen from Milton Berle, who stole it from Henny Youngman.
(pours some Mogen David out for Mel Zetz)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.

I don't think anyone was specifically stating that the whole "hey the Cardinals will be stuck competing for the wildcard" part was incorrect, just the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on May 31, 2016, 12:12:48 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

I've never wanted to THIS something so hard in the history of this shit for brains fringe messageboard. THIS seems inadequate. I want to vote for this post. I want to engrave it on a mountainside, and then I want that mountain dropped on top of St. Louis.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on May 31, 2016, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

All the scores get settled. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfbYp9oaIT8)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on May 31, 2016, 12:24:46 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

(http://i.giphy.com/F1sfZD3grYjQc.gif)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 31, 2016, 12:29:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 12:12:48 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

I've never wanted to THIS something so hard in the history of this shit for brains fringe messageboard. THIS seems inadequate. I want to vote for this post. I want to engrave it on a mountainside, and then I want that mountain dropped on top of St. Louis.

Without this reply, it would have been TL;DR. I'd like to add all postseason series are sweeps, with a run differential of Cubs x, Opponents 0.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on May 31, 2016, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 31, 2016, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

All the scores get settled. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfbYp9oaIT8)

I immediately thought of the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2016, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: CT III on May 31, 2016, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 31, 2016, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

All the scores get settled. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfbYp9oaIT8)

I immediately thought of the exact same thing.

Yes. And this is fitting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgoDvnebHRw).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: InternetApex on May 31, 2016, 03:19:39 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

All of this and Dick Beard getting his facial pubes burned off by a Javier Baez line drive.

Jordan over Ehlo fist pump.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2016, 03:38:11 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

Outstanding.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on May 31, 2016, 06:18:40 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 31, 2016, 03:19:39 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

All of this and Dick Beard getting his facial pubes burned off by a Javier Baez line drive.

Jordan over Ehlo fist pump.
Facial pubes?  And his name is Beard?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on May 31, 2016, 07:50:24 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

If I ever go back into acting, this is my audition monologue.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on June 01, 2016, 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

You forgot to drop the mic.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on June 01, 2016, 04:03:52 AM
Quote from: CBStew on May 31, 2016, 06:18:40 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 31, 2016, 03:19:39 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on May 31, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 31, 2016, 11:05:49 AMjust the "hey why bother even getting pissed off about any inexplicably lucky performances the Cardinals are getting, they don't matter at all anymore" part. There's still a chance they could get in as the wildcard, and then have 29 year old rookie Jehosephat Hanzenbacher go 10-15 with 10 homers as a pinch hitter. Until they are buried we must punch down as hard as possible as frequently as possible.

I agree, but for me it's more of an "It ALL matters" kind of thing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm greedy. If this thing truly is finally happening, and all indications are that it is, I want ALL of it. I want it to be The Season of Fuck for everybody else. All scores settled, all grudges taken out, mudholes stomped in every single fucko. I'm one of those guys who doesn't really even give a shit about the Shite Sox, but I know a lot of Cubs fans do, so I hope they fuck off and die. I want Grichuk to star in the story of a man who gets told to suck it and then gets kicked in the face 20 times. I want to witness Sean Rodriguez sobbing uncontrollably right there on the field. I've got nothing against Jung Ho Kang, but I want Jorge to make orphans of his children. I want them to figure out a way to humiliate Steve Garvey and Will Clark somehow, just for the hell of it. I want it all, even the unimportant shit. I want nine Cubs in the ASG. I want Bryant to unleash a firehose of splooge upon the HR Derby. I want all the goddamn postseason awards. I want David Ross to somehow be named NL ROY. I want Jake to knock Kershaw from a game with a granny to make it 10-0 in the 2nd, and then go ahead and do the perfect game just because fuck them. I want them to pound Dusty's cock in the dirt. I want them to win 135 games with a run differential of +fuckyou. And I want them to do all that while smiling and dancing and acting a fool, blissfully unconcerned with how much they're chapping everybody else's ass. I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well go full-bore with it. Eat souls. Burn shit down. Let em all go to hell, except Cave 76.

All of this and Dick Beard getting his facial pubes burned off by a Javier Baez line drive.

Jordan over Ehlo fist pump.
Facial pubes?  And his name is Beard?

IT'S BEARD-FAH-SAY!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 01, 2016, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

I want it to be a warm weather team so Soler can be a one-man Viking funeral.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on June 01, 2016, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 01, 2016, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

I want it to be a warm weather team so Soler can be a one-man Viking funeral.

I don't think it needs to be warm weather if the occasion is a Viking Funeral.
(https://chaosgatebook.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/tumblr_nfogxykzwr1r60arzo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on June 01, 2016, 02:11:32 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 01, 2016, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

I want it to be a warm weather team so Soler can be a one-man Viking funeral.

I know the guy has struggled this year but I don't think it's cool to wish he was dead.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 01, 2016, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 01, 2016, 02:11:32 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 01, 2016, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

I want it to be a warm weather team so Soler can be a one-man Viking funeral.

I know the guy has struggled this year but I don't think it's cool to wish he was dead.

Yeah he's not Jason Heyward. #FullMeatballUntilHisOPSisOver700
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 01, 2016, 03:14:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 01, 2016, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 01, 2016, 02:11:32 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 01, 2016, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

I want it to be a warm weather team so Soler can be a one-man Viking funeral.

I know the guy has struggled this year but I don't think it's cool to wish he was dead.

Yeah he's not Jason Heyward. #FullMeatballUntilHisOPSisOver700

700? Way to shoot for the stars. Bullshit toleration, I tells ya.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on June 01, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

Boston. It's gotta be Boston.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 02, 2016, 07:21:04 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 01, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

Boston. It's gotta be Boston.

Oh definitely Boston, after the Cubs finish off the sweep of their sorry ass pitching staff, Theo comes out onto the field with chicken and beer for Lester and Lackey and the gang.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 02, 2016, 08:46:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2016, 07:21:04 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 01, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

Boston. It's gotta be Boston.

Oh definitely Boston, after the Cubs finish off the sweep of their sorry ass pitching staff, Theo comes out onto the field with chicken and beer for Lester and Lackey and the gang.

Their sorry ass pitching staff is now down to 4 starters. I don't think they'll be able to hold off Toronto.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on June 02, 2016, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 01, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

Boston. It's gotta be Boston.

Here's a short list of teams I would be satisfied watching the Cubs play and beat in the World Series:

ANY OF THEM, I DON'T CARE.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on June 02, 2016, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 02, 2016, 08:46:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2016, 07:21:04 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 01, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
That post was epic, but needed to be a bit more specific as to who we curbstomp along the way to winning said World Series. Should it be rematches from last year? Beat up on St. Louis, just cuz FUCK them and then the Mets for last year and '69? Who do we want in the Series since apparently the Shite Sox are about to fall off the face of the planet? Unfortunately the Evil empire's not been the same the last 5-7 yrs or so and shouldn't make it this year. Do we want Theo to stick it to his former team and we can hear the crying of all the uppity Bostonites?

Boston. It's gotta be Boston.

Oh definitely Boston, after the Cubs finish off the sweep of their sorry ass pitching staff, Theo comes out onto the field with chicken and beer for Lester and Lackey and the gang.

Their sorry ass pitching staff is now down to 4 starters. I don't think they'll be able to hold off Toronto.

I really hope Toronto gets back to the playoffs.  I especially hope they face the Rangers again.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 09, 2016, 08:31:57 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Cardinals took Delvin Perez, a SS who has already failed a PED test.

Going back to what worked.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Slaky on June 10, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 09, 2016, 08:31:57 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Cardinals took Delvin Perez, a SS who has already failed a PED test.

Going back to what worked.

They think Arrieta's on the juice anyway. Also, we had Sammy. I don't know if these jokes work.

And to make this post more insufferable, if the worst thing that happens is rival fans say you drafted a known PED user but you got amazing value for a pick who would have eventually been picked by someone anyway...well that's just good business.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 10, 2016, 07:46:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 09, 2016, 08:31:57 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Cardinals took Delvin Perez, a SS who has already failed a PED test.

Going back to what worked.

They think Arrieta's on the juice anyway. Also, we had Sammy. I don't know if these jokes work.

And to make this post more insufferable, if the worst thing that happens is rival fans say you drafted a known PED user but you got amazing value for a pick who would have eventually been picked by someone anyway...well that's just good business.

Yeah it's a smart draft pick and exactly what I would have wanted the Cubs to do. But we can still throw their hypocrisy in their faces. Take what you can get I guess.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on June 10, 2016, 07:50:20 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 09, 2016, 08:31:57 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Cardinals took Delvin Perez, a SS who has already failed a PED test.

Going back to what worked.

They think Arrieta's on the juice anyway. Also, we had Sammy. I don't know if these jokes work.

And to make this post more insufferable, if the worst thing that happens is rival fans say you drafted a known PED user but you got amazing value for a pick who would have eventually been picked by someone anyway...well that's just good business.

If the Cubs got him, I would have been ecstatic.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 10, 2016, 08:33:58 AM
Quote from: Oleg on June 10, 2016, 07:50:20 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 09, 2016, 08:31:57 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Cardinals took Delvin Perez, a SS who has already failed a PED test.

Going back to what worked.

They think Arrieta's on the juice anyway. Also, we had Sammy. I don't know if these jokes work.

And to make this post more insufferable, if the worst thing that happens is rival fans say you drafted a known PED user but you got amazing value for a pick who would have eventually been picked by someone anyway...well that's just good business.

If the Cubs got him, I would have been ecstatic.

Yeah, let's see how much of a stud he is without juice.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 10, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 07:46:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 09, 2016, 08:31:57 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Cardinals took Delvin Perez, a SS who has already failed a PED test.

Going back to what worked.

They think Arrieta's on the juice anyway. Also, we had Sammy. I don't know if these jokes work.

And to make this post more insufferable, if the worst thing that happens is rival fans say you drafted a known PED user but you got amazing value for a pick who would have eventually been picked by someone anyway...well that's just good business.

Yeah it's a smart draft pick and exactly what I would have wanted the Cubs to do. But we can still throw their hypocrisy in their faces. Take what you can get I guess.

GM Fork does not approve of the pick. Let's not lose focus here.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 10, 2016, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 10, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 07:46:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 09, 2016, 08:31:57 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Cardinals took Delvin Perez, a SS who has already failed a PED test.

Going back to what worked.

They think Arrieta's on the juice anyway. Also, we had Sammy. I don't know if these jokes work.

And to make this post more insufferable, if the worst thing that happens is rival fans say you drafted a known PED user but you got amazing value for a pick who would have eventually been picked by someone anyway...well that's just good business.

Yeah it's a smart draft pick and exactly what I would have wanted the Cubs to do. But we can still throw their hypocrisy in their faces. Take what you can get I guess.

GM Fork does not approve of the pick. Let's not lose focus here.

I don't need to approve of shit. I hope he goes PED free and becomes Baseball Bosworth.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 20, 2016, 07:51:31 AM
Yet another sad example of a Rookie of the Year* succumbing to the dreaded sophomore slump: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/16314450/st-louis-cardinals-call-tommy-pham-option-randal-grichuk-minors






*Deserved
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on June 21, 2016, 09:21:34 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 20, 2016, 07:51:31 AM
Yet another sad example of a Rookie of the Year* succumbing to the dreaded sophomore slump: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/16314450/st-louis-cardinals-call-tommy-pham-option-randal-grichuk-minors






*Deserved

I've decided he will win the MVP* this year.



*Deserved
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on June 21, 2016, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: Bort on June 21, 2016, 09:21:34 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 20, 2016, 07:51:31 AM
Yet another sad example of a Rookie of the Year* succumbing to the dreaded sophomore slump: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/16314450/st-louis-cardinals-call-tommy-pham-option-randal-grichuk-minors






*Deserved

I've decided he will win the MVP* this year.



*Deserved**

**Pacific Coast League
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
This series sucks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on June 22, 2016, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
This series sucks.

I blame Almora for getting caught trying to take third with the 2-3-4 hitters due up in the 9th inning Monday. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on June 22, 2016, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
This series sucks.

Jesus, what the hell?
Get it out of your system now boys.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on June 22, 2016, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 22, 2016, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
This series sucks.

I blame Almora for getting caught trying to take third with the 2-3-4 hitters due up in the 9th inning Monday. 

I blame Kurt. And Fork.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on June 22, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Remember when the Bears lost that game to the Packers on New Years Eve 2016 to finish the season 13-3? The Green Bay people had their fun, we left at halftime, wishing the green horde "Good Luck in the playoffs." The Bears then beat Seattke, finished what Katrina started and then couldn't stop the run in the Super Bowl. But it was good times.

Let St. Louis people have their fun. I have work to do, but first I am going to the men's room.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 22, 2016, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 22, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Remember when the Bears lost that game to the Packers on New Years Eve 2016 to finish the season 13-3? The Green Bay people had their fun, we left at halftime, wishing the green horde "Good Luck in the playoffs." The Bears then beat Seattke, finished what Katrina started and then couldn't stop the run in the Super Bowl. But it was good times.

Let St. Louis people have their fun. I have work to do, but first I am going to the men's room.

Let's not use that example considering that Green Bay basically used their four game winning streak at the end of that year to propel them to their 13-3 streak the next year and their continued dominance of the division for the next decade.

How about the time the Cardinals won a lot of frustrating early season games last year and then the Cubs beat them in the playoffs before roaring out to the league's best record.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2016, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 22, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Remember when the Bears lost that game to the Packers on New Years Eve 2016 to finish the season 13-3? The Green Bay people had their fun, we left at halftime, wishing the green horde "Good Luck in the playoffs." The Bears then beat Seattke, finished what Katrina started and then couldn't stop the run in the Super Bowl. But it was good times.

Let St. Louis people have their fun. I have work to do, but first I am going to the men's room.

Let's not use that example considering that Green Bay basically used their four game winning streak at the end of that year to propel them to their 13-3 streak the next year and their continued dominance of the division for the next decade.

How about the time the Cardinals won a lot of frustrating early season games last year and then the Cubs beat them in the playoffs before roaring out to the league's best record.

Good times.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
Also if Chris Fucking Coghlan is starting meaningful games in October I'm going to scream.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 04:24:04 PM
I almost posted "Now's the part where Mike Matheny burns through his entire bullpen to protect a five run lead" when Wacha was removed but decided not to. Turns out that's exactly what's happening.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on June 22, 2016, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 22, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Remember when the Bears lost that game to the Packers on New Years Eve 2016 to finish the season 13-3? The Green Bay people had their fun, we left at halftime, wishing the green horde "Good Luck in the playoffs." The Bears then beat Seattke, finished what Katrina started and then couldn't stop the run in the Super Bowl. But it was good times.

Let St. Louis people have their fun. I have work to do, but first I am going to the men's room.

Before I realized this was a typo, I thought, "That's quite a specific prediction."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on June 22, 2016, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2016, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 22, 2016, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
This series sucks.

I blame Almora for getting caught trying to take third with the 2-3-4 hitters due up in the 9th inning Monday. 

I blame Kurt. And Fork.

If me posting about a Cubs sweep during game one caused this to happen, then I'm going to MAD WITH POWER!!!!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 23, 2016, 10:58:37 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 22, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
Also if Chris Fucking Coghlan is starting meaningful games in October I'm going to scream.

If he is, it won't be for the Cubs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: WTB...A RING FFS!! on June 25, 2016, 12:13:12 AM
LO LO LOLOLOL. Just got home to see Rosenthal give up the game-winning homer to Lind. Delicious crying on Viva el Birdos.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: D. Doluntap on July 24, 2016, 07:24:03 PM
I hope this first inning of Mike Mayers debut never ends.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on August 02, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/08/02/four-reasons-cardinals-world-series-win/

This is not a parody site, but an actual article.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on August 02, 2016, 09:43:59 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 02, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/08/02/four-reasons-cardinals-world-series-win/

This is not a parody site, but an actual article.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/clashofclans/images/c/ce/Why_not_both%3F.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130824200436)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 02, 2016, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 02, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/08/02/four-reasons-cardinals-world-series-win/

This is not a parody site, but an actual article.

QuoteSt. Louis seems to perform much better against teams over .500 this year than anyone else

they are 22-34 against .500 or better teams.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 02, 2016, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 02, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/08/02/four-reasons-cardinals-world-series-win/

This is not a parody site, but an actual article.

QuoteSt. Louis seems to perform much better against teams over .500 this year than anyone else

they are 22-34 against .500 or better teams.

What seems to be is better than what actually is. #TheCardinalWay
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on August 02, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 02, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/08/02/four-reasons-cardinals-world-series-win/

This is not a parody site, but an actual article.

QuoteSt. Louis seems to perform much better against teams over .500 this year than anyone else

they are 22-34 against .500 or better teams.

The shitty thing about the article is that the premise, although not probable, isn't totally without merit.

In some ways, the 2016 Cardinals are the mirror opposites of the 2015 version.
They are underperforming their Pyth record by a good 8 games (they have a fairly nice run differential).
They have been somewhat unlucky in terms of health and are getting healthy just in time (even if they lost their starting SS but just in time for last year's starting SS and their starting 3B to get healthy).
Wainright is finally pitching well and they finally have seen teh light in regards to Rosenthal and have a really good replacement for him.
They have a really good offense, somehow.

Their ROS projections aren't so bullish on their prospects, though.  But, they've outplayed them so far.

If the writer's point was made around this, I'd be willing to accept the facts even if I disputed the conclusion.  But, he took teh lazy way out and fuck him for it.

All in all, fuck those assholes.  They can't hold The Cubs' jock straps and they know it.  I'll enjoy all these right into November.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 02, 2016, 11:15:39 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 02, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: morpheus on August 02, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/08/02/four-reasons-cardinals-world-series-win/

This is not a parody site, but an actual article.

QuoteSt. Louis seems to perform much better against teams over .500 this year than anyone else

they are 22-34 against .500 or better teams.

The shitty thing about the article is that the premise, although not probable, isn't totally without merit.

In some ways, the 2016 Cardinals are the mirror opposites of the 2015 version.
They are underperforming their Pyth record by a good 8 games (they have a fairly nice run differential).
They have been somewhat unlucky in terms of health and are getting healthy just in time (even if they lost their starting SS but just in time for last year's starting SS and their starting 3B to get healthy).
Wainright is finally pitching well and they finally have seen teh light in regards to Rosenthal and have a really good replacement for him.
They have a really good offense, somehow.

Their ROS projections aren't so bullish on their prospects, though.  But, they've outplayed them so far.

If the writer's point was made around this, I'd be willing to accept the facts even if I disputed the conclusion.  But, he took teh lazy way out and fuck him for it.

All in all, fuck those assholes.  They can't hold The Cubs' jock straps and they know it.  I'll enjoy all these right into November.

The Cardinals have been unlucky and yet lucky at the same time. They've underperformed their Pythagorean records, yes, and they've had injury issues, sure, but they've also gotten ludicrous performances well above career norms for guys like Brandon Moss, Jedd Gyorko, and Aledmys Diaz. Eric Fryer hit like .400 for them before they DFA'd him, Hazelbaker had an outrageous first couple of weeks. Projections are naturally skeptical of their offense going forward because when everyone seems to be having a career year but Yadi you can probably expect quite a few people to regress. Also (and I know the Cubs are somewhat inflated by this as well), they have like a +77 run differential against the Reds/Braves/Brewers and a +11 against everyone else. They are the very definition of bumslayers.

TL, DR: they haven't won as many games as their runs scored says they should have but they probably shouldn't have scored that damn many runs anyway.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 02, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
DPD, in more detail:

Cardinals vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 16-5, +79 run differential, 7.2 R/G, 3.4 RA/G.
Cardinals vs everyone else: 40-44, +10 run differential, 4.5 R/G, 4.4 RA/G.

Cubs vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 18-9, +73 run differential, 6.3 R/G, 3.6 RA/G
Cubs vs everyone else: 46-32, +96 run differential, 4.7 R/G, 3.4 RA/G

They're frauds, goddammit.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on August 02, 2016, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
DPD, in more detail:

Cardinals vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 16-5, +79 run differential, 7.2 R/G, 3.4 RA/G.
Cardinals vs everyone else: 40-44, +10 run differential, 4.5 R/G, 4.4 RA/G.

Cubs vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 18-9, +73 run differential, 6.3 R/G, 3.6 RA/G
Cubs vs everyone else: 46-32, +96 run differential, 4.7 R/G, 3.4 RA/G

They're frauds, goddammit.

I agree.  I was just saying that the writer could have made a slightly more compelling argument by Googling a couple of things instead of relying on the tired and lazy argument of "Because Cardinals".
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 02, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 02, 2016, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
DPD, in more detail:

Cardinals vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 16-5, +79 run differential, 7.2 R/G, 3.4 RA/G.
Cardinals vs everyone else: 40-44, +10 run differential, 4.5 R/G, 4.4 RA/G.

Cubs vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 18-9, +73 run differential, 6.3 R/G, 3.6 RA/G
Cubs vs everyone else: 46-32, +96 run differential, 4.7 R/G, 3.4 RA/G

They're frauds, goddammit.

I agree.  I was just saying that the writer could have made a slightly more compelling argument by Googling a couple of things instead of relying on the tired and lazy argument of "Because Cardinals".

yeah but sadly in our lifetimes "Because Cardinals" has been sufficient. We can only hope that's no longer the case.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 02, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 02, 2016, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
DPD, in more detail:

Cardinals vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 16-5, +79 run differential, 7.2 R/G, 3.4 RA/G.
Cardinals vs everyone else: 40-44, +10 run differential, 4.5 R/G, 4.4 RA/G.

Cubs vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 18-9, +73 run differential, 6.3 R/G, 3.6 RA/G
Cubs vs everyone else: 46-32, +96 run differential, 4.7 R/G, 3.4 RA/G

They're frauds, goddammit.

I agree.  I was just saying that the writer could have made a slightly more compelling argument by Googling a couple of things instead of relying on the tired and lazy argument of "Because Cardinals".

yeah but sadly in our lifetimes "Because Cardinals" has been sufficient. We can only hope that's no longer the case.

I actually kind of want the Cards to win the Seligcard, then the play-in, just so the Cubs can sweep them by an aggregate score of 60-0.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 02, 2016, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 02, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 02, 2016, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
DPD, in more detail:

Cardinals vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 16-5, +79 run differential, 7.2 R/G, 3.4 RA/G.
Cardinals vs everyone else: 40-44, +10 run differential, 4.5 R/G, 4.4 RA/G.

Cubs vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 18-9, +73 run differential, 6.3 R/G, 3.6 RA/G
Cubs vs everyone else: 46-32, +96 run differential, 4.7 R/G, 3.4 RA/G

They're frauds, goddammit.

I agree.  I was just saying that the writer could have made a slightly more compelling argument by Googling a couple of things instead of relying on the tired and lazy argument of "Because Cardinals".

yeah but sadly in our lifetimes "Because Cardinals" has been sufficient. We can only hope that's no longer the case.

I actually kind of want the Cards to win the Seligcard, then the play-in, just so the Cubs can sweep them by an aggregate score of 60-0.

I'd rather they just miss the playoffs entirely since bad luck can absolutely strike in a 3 game sample size, given that they already swept the Cubs at home this year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on August 02, 2016, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 02, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 02, 2016, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
DPD, in more detail:

Cardinals vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 16-5, +79 run differential, 7.2 R/G, 3.4 RA/G.
Cardinals vs everyone else: 40-44, +10 run differential, 4.5 R/G, 4.4 RA/G.

Cubs vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 18-9, +73 run differential, 6.3 R/G, 3.6 RA/G
Cubs vs everyone else: 46-32, +96 run differential, 4.7 R/G, 3.4 RA/G

They're frauds, goddammit.

I agree.  I was just saying that the writer could have made a slightly more compelling argument by Googling a couple of things instead of relying on the tired and lazy argument of "Because Cardinals".

yeah but sadly in our lifetimes "Because Cardinals" has been sufficient. We can only hope that's no longer the case.

I actually kind of want the Cards to win the Seligcard, then the play-in, just so the Cubs can sweep them by an aggregate score of 60-0.

I want them to lose all their games. Even the simulated ones.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 03, 2016, 01:41:24 AM
How about that giant kick to the balls tonight from Cincy? Need more of that shit to dishearten the mouth breathers. 1 more time tomorrow to make it 10 out plz.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on August 03, 2016, 08:00:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 02, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 02, 2016, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 02, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
DPD, in more detail:

Cardinals vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 16-5, +79 run differential, 7.2 R/G, 3.4 RA/G.
Cardinals vs everyone else: 40-44, +10 run differential, 4.5 R/G, 4.4 RA/G.

Cubs vs ATL/CIN/MIL: 18-9, +73 run differential, 6.3 R/G, 3.6 RA/G
Cubs vs everyone else: 46-32, +96 run differential, 4.7 R/G, 3.4 RA/G

They're frauds, goddammit.

I agree.  I was just saying that the writer could have made a slightly more compelling argument by Googling a couple of things instead of relying on the tired and lazy argument of "Because Cardinals".

yeah but sadly in our lifetimes "Because Cardinals" has been sufficient. We can only hope that's no longer the case.

I actually kind of want the Cards to win the Seligcard, then the play-in, just so the Cubs can sweep them by an aggregate score of 60-0.

I'd rather they just miss the playoffs entirely since bad luck can absolutely strike in a 3 game sample size, given that they already swept the Cubs at home this year.

And then they'll draft some grindy white fuck with the 15th pick next year and he'll come up September 2017 and bat .650
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on August 03, 2016, 08:08:24 AM
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 03, 2016, 01:41:24 AM
How about that giant kick to the balls tonight from Cincy? Need more of that shit to dishearten the mouth breathers. 1 more time tomorrow to make it 10 out plz.

Scott Schebler's fuck you St. Louis bat toss was gratifying. Also, that was a massive HR.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on August 03, 2016, 08:38:34 AM
Gotta love that they have Matheny at the helm. (http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/72867/five-things-we-learned-tuesday-mike-matheny-still-a-bad-tactical-manager)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: D. Doluntap on August 04, 2016, 01:27:26 PM
Reds up 7-0 headed into the 7th. Go Reds!

Also, nothing new here, but Joey Votto is awesome. He's hitting .500/.605/.759 since the ASB. And yet Marty/Thom hate him because he only has 12 RBIs over that span.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 04, 2016, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on August 04, 2016, 01:27:26 PM
Reds up 7-0 headed into the 7th. Go Reds!

Also, nothing new here, but Joey Votto is awesome. He's hitting .500/.605/.759 since the ASB. And yet Marty/Thom hate him because he only has 12 RBIs over that span.

They had to take a breather from bitching about his walks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on August 05, 2016, 10:52:28 AM
Anyone notice that the 2015 dROY has been sent down for a second time?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 08, 2016, 07:54:08 AM
So last Saturday the Cardinals needed only to beat Andrew Cashner to cut it to 5.5 games, with a game against a Marlins spot starter to follow and then 6 straight against the Reds and Braves. My ass was clenched so tight I'd crush coal into Diamonds. Brian Matusz sent me into a fit of hysteria.

The Cardinals then dropped 6 of those 8 games and are 11.5 games back. Lolz.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 08, 2016, 08:06:47 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on August 08, 2016, 08:09:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2016, 07:54:08 AM
So last Saturday the Cardinals needed only to beat Andrew Cashner Colin Rea, who was injured in his 3rd inning as a Marlin before being sent back to San Diego to cut it to 5.5 games, with a game against a Marlins spot starter to follow and then 6 straight against the Reds and Braves. My ass was clenched so tight I'd crush coal into Diamonds. Brian Matusz sent me into a fit of hysteria.

The Cardinals then dropped 6 of those 8 games and are 11.5 games back. Lolz.

For accuracy's sake'd.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on August 08, 2016, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2016, 07:54:08 AM
So last Saturday the Cardinals needed only to beat Andrew Cashner to cut it to 5.5 games, with a game against a Marlins spot starter to follow and then 6 straight against the Reds and Braves. My ass was clenched so tight I'd crush coal into Diamonds. Brian Matusz sent me into a fit of hysteria.

The Cardinals then dropped 6 of those 8 games and are 11.5 games back. Lolz.

You don't say...
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 08, 2016, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 08, 2016, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2016, 07:54:08 AM
So last Saturday the Cardinals needed only to beat Andrew Cashner to cut it to 5.5 games, with a game against a Marlins spot starter to follow and then 6 straight against the Reds and Braves. My ass was clenched so tight I'd crush coal into Diamonds. Brian Matusz sent me into a fit of hysteria.

The Cardinals then dropped 6 of those 8 games and are 11.5 games back. Lolz.

You don't say...

You know when I'm being self-aware of how much of a panicky moron I am you don't actually have to point out that I was being a panicky moron. I just copped to it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on August 08, 2016, 09:10:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2016, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 08, 2016, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2016, 07:54:08 AM
So last Saturday the Cardinals needed only to beat Andrew Cashner to cut it to 5.5 games, with a game against a Marlins spot starter to follow and then 6 straight against the Reds and Braves. My ass was clenched so tight I'd crush coal into Diamonds. Brian Matusz sent me into a fit of hysteria.

The Cardinals then dropped 6 of those 8 games and are 11.5 games back. Lolz.

You don't say...

You know when I'm being self-aware of how much of a panicky moron I am you don't actually have to point out that I was being a panicky moron. I just copped to it.

That's probably true.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 08, 2016, 09:43:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2016, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 08, 2016, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2016, 07:54:08 AM
So last Saturday the Cardinals needed only to beat Andrew Cashner to cut it to 5.5 games, with a game against a Marlins spot starter to follow and then 6 straight against the Reds and Braves. My ass was clenched so tight I'd crush coal into Diamonds. Brian Matusz sent me into a fit of hysteria.

The Cardinals then dropped 6 of those 8 games and are 11.5 games back. Lolz.

You don't say...

He was intrigued by your tight ass.

You know when I'm being self-aware of how much of a panicky moron I am you don't actually have to point out that I was being a panicky moron. I just copped to it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.

4-4, Saul Fork
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.

4-4, Saul Fork

5-4 Cardinals. Stop picking up fork's bad habits
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.

4-4, Saul Fork

5-4 Cardinals. Stop picking up fork's bad habits

I don't even know what that means, but me posting on this stupid messageboard has no effect on MLB games. The Reds bullpen is trash. Fact.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on August 09, 2016, 07:34:56 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.

4-4, Saul Fork

5-4 Cardinals. Stop picking up fork's bad habits

I don't even know what that means, but me posting on this stupid messageboard has no effect on MLB games. The Reds bullpen is trash. Fact.

You might want to factor that in ahead of your premature ejaculation is all.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 09, 2016, 07:41:06 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 09, 2016, 07:34:56 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.

4-4, Saul Fork

5-4 Cardinals. Stop picking up fork's bad habits

I don't even know what that means, but me posting on this stupid messageboard has no effect on MLB games. The Reds bullpen is trash. Fact.

You might want to factor that in ahead of your premature ejaculation is all.

The 9th was a beautiful bit of a management by a tanking team. They left Cingrani in as he got repeatedly knocked around, let him give up 3 runs and load the bases again, and only pulled him when it actually made the least amount of sense to do so, by bringing in Ohlendorf, a shitty right hander, to face Moss, who has a .208/.259/.333/.576 line against LHP this year and a 1.035 OPS vs RHP. They should have either left Cingrani in to face Moss, or pulled him a batter earlier and let Ohlendorf face Matt Holliday's right handed corpse.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 09, 2016, 08:10:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 09, 2016, 07:34:56 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.

4-4, Saul Fork

5-4 Cardinals. Stop picking up fork's bad habits

I don't even know what that means, but me posting on this stupid messageboard has no effect on MLB games. The Reds bullpen is trash. Fact.

You might want to factor that in ahead of your premature ejaculation is all.

The Cubs are fucking up the Cards' shit this weekend. Mark it now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 09, 2016, 09:07:59 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 09, 2016, 07:34:56 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.

4-4, Saul Fork

5-4 Cardinals. Stop picking up fork's bad habits

I don't even know what that means, but me posting on this stupid messageboard has no effect on MLB games. The Reds bullpen is trash. Fact.

You might want to factor that in ahead of your premature ejaculation is all.

I factored in the angry tweets from the #BFIB that were being retweeted by the account of the same name. The fact that they came back and won makes those tweets even more ridiculous, but they got to see their dumb team come back and win which makes me sad.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 09, 2016, 10:00:53 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 09, 2016, 09:07:59 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 09, 2016, 07:34:56 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 08, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 08, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Currently 4-0 Reds in the third inning against Michael Wacha. Full-fledged panic may be setting in for #CardinalNation at #BushStadium.

4-4, Saul Fork

5-4 Cardinals. Stop picking up fork's bad habits

I don't even know what that means, but me posting on this stupid messageboard has no effect on MLB games. The Reds bullpen is trash. Fact.

You might want to factor that in ahead of your premature ejaculation is all.

I factored in the angry tweets from the #BFIB that were being retweeted by the account of the same name. The fact that they came back and won makes those tweets even more ridiculous, but they got to see their dumb team come back and win which makes me sad.

It moves them back into a tie with the Marlins for the SeligCard. The Cubs still have 10 games left against the Cards.

It's going to be fucking sweet that we'll get to watch the good guys send them packing two years in a row.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on August 10, 2016, 11:15:58 AM
The Cardinals are now Kyle Schwarber games back.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 10, 2016, 11:35:19 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 10, 2016, 11:15:58 AM
The Cardinals are now Kyle Schwarber games back.

Turk Wendell in the loss column.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 11, 2016, 11:44:58 PM
LOL @ Martinez cutting off a throw that probably would have gunned down Rizzo and then not even trying to go home on Ross' bunt
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 11, 2016, 11:54:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2016, 11:44:58 PM
LOL @ Martinez cutting off a throw that probably would have gunned down Rizzo and then not even trying to go home on Ross' bunt

My favorite was going full Sean Rodriguez on some innocent Gatorade-branded hydration equipment.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on August 12, 2016, 09:31:07 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2016, 11:44:58 PM
LOL @ Martinez cutting off a throw that probably would have gunned down Rizzo and then not even trying to go home on Ross' bunt

I would like to think Manny was having a nice laugh in the dugout or clubhouse or wherever he was.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: HumbleJerry on August 12, 2016, 09:34:24 AM
As close to last place as they are to first.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 12, 2016, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 11, 2016, 11:54:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2016, 11:44:58 PM
LOL @ Martinez cutting off a throw that probably would have gunned down Rizzo and then not even trying to go home on Ross' bunt

My favorite was going full Sean Rodriguez on some innocent Gatorade-branded hydration equipment.

I enjoyed looking at the empty Cardinals bullpen as Martinez got up to 100 pitches.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on August 12, 2016, 09:45:11 AM
Lots of Cardinals fans wanting retaliation on Bryant for Montgomery (who just came over from the AL and has no reason to throw at Holliday, especially in that situation) hitting Holliday.

There will be blood.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 12, 2016, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 12, 2016, 09:45:11 AM
Lots of Cardinals fans wanting retaliation on Bryant for Montgomery (who just came over from the AL and has no reason to throw at Holliday, especially in that situation) hitting Holliday.

There will be blood.

I'm going to sit here and just visualize Contreras and Schwarber coming out of the dugout looking for guys to eviscerate.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 12, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
The Adam Wainwright Funeral March has been fun
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 12, 2016, 03:05:34 PM
Yadier Molina is a bad pitch framer and bad catcher because last night he couldn't even get a strike to Anthony Rizzo called a strike
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on August 12, 2016, 07:30:13 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 12, 2016, 03:05:34 PM
Yadier Molina is a bad pitch framer and bad catcher because last night he couldn't even get a strike to Anthony Rizzo called a strike

From the dugout.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 12, 2016, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 12, 2016, 07:30:13 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 12, 2016, 03:05:34 PM
Yadier Molina is a bad pitch framer and bad catcher because last night he couldn't even get a strike to Anthony Rizzo called a strike

From the dugout.

You and your facts.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on September 06, 2016, 10:26:28 AM
August 23rd: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/wild-card-molina-still-eyes-a-run-at-nl-central/article_69672170-1f8d-541b-bf9a-22b8171be9d2.html

Playoff Odds that day: http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx?type=2&lg=div&date=2016-08-23

Current Playoff Odds: http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx

Let's all point and laugh at Yadier Molina.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 13, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
I'm probably just bitter and biased but I had to watch the Cardinals feed of the game and when Hazelbaker hit that home run you'd have thought he gave them the lead. McLaughin went full Chip Caray screaming "THAT'S HOW YOU BREAK UP A NO HITTTTTERRRR". Insufferable.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 13, 2016, 08:11:45 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
I'm probably just bitter and biased but I had to watch the Cardinals feed of the game and when Hazelbaker hit that home run you'd have thought he gave them the lead. McLaughin went full Chip Caray screaming "THAT'S HOW YOU BREAK UP A NO HITTTTTERRRR". Insufferable.

Another "Statement Loss!"
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: air2300 on September 13, 2016, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
I'm probably just bitter and biased but I had to watch the Cardinals feed of the game and when Hazelbaker hit that home run you'd have thought he gave them the lead. McLaughin went full Chip Caray screaming "THAT'S HOW YOU BREAK UP A NO HITTTTTERRRR". Insufferable.
"This has been the cubs year, but if these two teams play in the playoffs, the cardinals will beat them." 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 13, 2016, 01:04:37 PM
Quote from: air2300 on September 13, 2016, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
I'm probably just bitter and biased but I had to watch the Cardinals feed of the game and when Hazelbaker hit that home run you'd have thought he gave them the lead. McLaughin went full Chip Caray screaming "THAT'S HOW YOU BREAK UP A NO HITTTTTERRRR". Insufferable.
"This has been the cubs year, but if these two teams play in the playoffs, the cardinals will beat them." 

Oh yeah I forgot that, fucking McCarver, I believe the exact quote was "Hendricks has certainly had a good night and they've had a good year, but I still believe the Cardinals will meet them in the playoffs and beat them."

Up until then I was almost on Team Pex's "I'd rather face the Cardinals than any of the other NLDS options" train but now I want them to lose 10 in a row and miss the whole goddamn dance.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 13, 2016, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2016, 01:04:37 PM
Quote from: air2300 on September 13, 2016, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
I'm probably just bitter and biased but I had to watch the Cardinals feed of the game and when Hazelbaker hit that home run you'd have thought he gave them the lead. McLaughin went full Chip Caray screaming "THAT'S HOW YOU BREAK UP A NO HITTTTTERRRR". Insufferable.
"This has been the cubs year, but if these two teams play in the playoffs, the cardinals will beat them." 

Oh yeah I forgot that, fucking McCarver, I believe the exact quote was "Hendricks has certainly had a good night and they've had a good year, but I still believe the Cardinals will meet them in the playoffs and beat them."

Up until then I was almost on Team Pex's "I'd rather face the Cardinals than any of the other NLDS options" train but now I want them to lose 10 in a row and miss the whole goddamn dance.

I want the Cubs to throw the final shovel of dirt on the Cards' grave September 25th.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 13, 2016, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 13, 2016, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2016, 01:04:37 PM
Quote from: air2300 on September 13, 2016, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
I'm probably just bitter and biased but I had to watch the Cardinals feed of the game and when Hazelbaker hit that home run you'd have thought he gave them the lead. McLaughin went full Chip Caray screaming "THAT'S HOW YOU BREAK UP A NO HITTTTTERRRR". Insufferable.
"This has been the cubs year, but if these two teams play in the playoffs, the cardinals will beat them." 

Oh yeah I forgot that, fucking McCarver, I believe the exact quote was "Hendricks has certainly had a good night and they've had a good year, but I still believe the Cardinals will meet them in the playoffs and beat them."

Up until then I was almost on Team Pex's "I'd rather face the Cardinals than any of the other NLDS options" train but now I want them to lose 10 in a row and miss the whole goddamn dance.

I want the Cubs to throw the final shovel of dirt on the Cards' grave September 25th.

And dance on it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on September 13, 2016, 06:35:09 PM
Personally, I'd prefer the Cubs just skip the DS and CS entirely, and advance directly to the Series, because the playoffs will be a time of pants-shitting stress for me.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on September 13, 2016, 06:36:30 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 13, 2016, 06:35:09 PM
Personally, I'd prefer the Cubs just skip the DS and CS entirely, and advance directly to the Series, because the playoffs will be a time of pants-shitting stress for me.

You pussy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on September 13, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 13, 2016, 06:36:30 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 13, 2016, 06:35:09 PM
Personally, I'd prefer the Cubs just skip the DS and CS entirely, and advance directly to the Series, because the playoffs will be a time of pants-shitting stress for me.

You pussy.

Yes, and?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 14, 2016, 11:23:50 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 13, 2016, 06:35:09 PM
Personally, I'd prefer the Cubs just skip the DS and CS entirely, and advance directly to the Series, because the playoffs will be a time of pants-shitting stress for me.

as opposed to pants-shitting pleasure?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 14, 2016, 03:13:42 PM
Hahahaha. Michael Wacha sucks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on September 14, 2016, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 14, 2016, 03:13:42 PM
Hahahaha. Michael Wacha sucks.

Is he salvageable? It might be fun to see him released or traded for a pail of sunflower seeds and see him become a solid No. 3 starter.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on September 14, 2016, 04:09:41 PM
The Methcopalypse is upon us. St. Louis embarks on a 10-game road trip: SF, Colorado, Cubs. New York's next 10 games are at home: Minnesota, Atlanta and Philadelphia.

This link could be very helpful for the Cubs Sept. 23-25. (https://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/1201871)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 14, 2016, 04:42:01 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 14, 2016, 04:09:41 PM
The Methcopalypse is upon us. St. Louis embarks on a 10-game road trip: SF, Colorado, Cubs. New York's next 10 games are at home: Minnesota, Atlanta and Philadelphia.

This link could be very helpful for the Cubs Sept. 23-25. (https://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/1201871)

Awww hell yeah...
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 15, 2016, 07:43:20 AM
Jeff Passan hitting Tony La Russa from the top rope (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-hypocrisy-of-tony-la-russa-and-the-understandable-fears-of-black-baseball-players-045857175.html) is pretty great, and includes my favorite lede of the year:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4115/MGlCUQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on September 15, 2016, 07:58:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2016, 07:43:20 AM
Jeff Passan hitting Tony La Russa from the top rope (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-hypocrisy-of-tony-la-russa-and-the-understandable-fears-of-black-baseball-players-045857175.html) is pretty great, and includes my favorite lede of the year:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4115/MGlCUQ.jpg)

(http://i.giphy.com/1ofR3QioNy264.gif)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2016, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2016, 07:43:20 AM
Jeff Passan hitting Tony La Russa from the top rope (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-hypocrisy-of-tony-la-russa-and-the-understandable-fears-of-black-baseball-players-045857175.html) is pretty great, and includes my favorite lede of the year:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4115/MGlCUQ.jpg)

Except it was more than one steroid-addled clubhouse. But yeah, fuck this guy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on September 15, 2016, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2016, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2016, 07:43:20 AM
Jeff Passan hitting Tony La Russa from the top rope (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-hypocrisy-of-tony-la-russa-and-the-understandable-fears-of-black-baseball-players-045857175.html) is pretty great, and includes my favorite lede of the year:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4115/MGlCUQ.jpg)

Except it was more than one steroid-addled clubhouse. But yeah, fuck this guy.

Nah.  The others were HGH-riddled.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 15, 2016, 06:44:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2016, 07:43:20 AM
Jeff Passan hitting Tony La Russa from the top rope (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-hypocrisy-of-tony-la-russa-and-the-understandable-fears-of-black-baseball-players-045857175.html) is pretty great, and includes my favorite lede of the year:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4115/MGlCUQ.jpg)

That pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on September 15, 2016, 07:20:32 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 15, 2016, 06:44:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2016, 07:43:20 AM
Jeff Passan hitting Tony La Russa from the top rope (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-hypocrisy-of-tony-la-russa-and-the-understandable-fears-of-black-baseball-players-045857175.html) is pretty great, and includes my favorite lede of the year:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4115/MGlCUQ.jpg)

That pretty much sums it up.

Somebody is going to get a visit the next time they're in a press box and The Genius is in town.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on September 17, 2016, 03:10:41 PM
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Deer/i-Qkh6jtP/0/O/image2.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 17, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 17, 2016, 03:10:41 PM
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Deer/i-Qkh6jtP/0/O/image2.jpg)

*snort*
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2016, 07:28:47 PM
I haven't seen anything in Dogpatch media, but if they don't make the playoffs, does Metheny get sacked?

Because I know I'd love to see him be manager-for-life.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2016, 09:19:54 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

They still think Yadi Molina will be a Hall of Famer.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on September 26, 2016, 09:38:37 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2016, 09:19:54 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

They still think Yadi Molina will be a Hall of Famer.  is going to be MVP this year

https://twitter.com/markasaxon/status/780203681123667973 (https://twitter.com/markasaxon/status/780203681123667973)

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 26, 2016, 10:19:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.

I'm sure we would, and if the arguments I was seeing were "you know if Cardinals fans did this Cubs fans would rip us to shreds" I'd understand and respect that. It's the completely oblivious and hypocritical "lol look at the dumb team giving a standing ovation for no fucking reason" response from them that I find hilarious.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.

Maybe. I think "Grandpa Rossy" is a little different just because Rizzo and Bryant kind of made his farewell tour a thing and we've all been in on the joke since spring training. Last night was just the culmination of that.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 26, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.

Maybe. I think "Grandpa Rossy" is a little different just because Rizzo and Bryant kind of made his farewell tour a thing and we've all been in on the joke since spring training. Last night was just the culmination of that.

Ehh, the Cubs make the kinds of arguments about Ross that we mock Cardinals fans for making about Yadi. His worth is immeasurable, he makes the players around him better because leadership, he's the real MVP of the team, etc. If the Cardinals fans had done that for Tony Cruz or whatever we probably would have mocked them. I can understand a lot of people that aren't Cubs fans looking at the Ross thing and going "okay, chill out people".

The one fanbase that does not have a right to be outright butthurt about it (one of the Cardinals beat writers tweeted out that Maddon basically pulled Ross to delay the game and make the Cardinals lose focus in a key game, which is monumentally stupid) is the fanbase that basically invented giving standing ovations at the drop of a hat, provided whoever dropped said hat had the bill bent correctly and was not wearing it off to the side.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.

Maybe. I think "Grandpa Rossy" is a little different just because Rizzo and Bryant kind of made his farewell tour a thing and we've all been in on the joke since spring training. Last night was just the culmination of that.

Ehh, the Cubs make the kinds of arguments about Ross that we mock Cardinals fans for making about Yadi. His worth is immeasurable, he makes the players around him better because leadership, he's the real MVP of the team, etc. If the Cardinals fans had done that for Tony Cruz or whatever we probably would have mocked them. I can understand a lot of people that aren't Cubs fans looking at the Ross thing and going "okay, chill out people".

The one fanbase that does not have a right to be outright butthurt about it (one of the Cardinals beat writers tweeted out that Maddon basically pulled Ross to delay the game and make the Cardinals lose focus in a key game, which is monumentally stupid) is the fanbase that basically invented giving standing ovations at the drop of a hat, provided whoever dropped said hat had the bill bent correctly and was not wearing it off to the side.

The distraction ploy totally worked. Their hero Yadi applauded Ross from the on-deck circle. Maddon strikes again.

(Joe said after the game that the 'catching change' mound visit was Lester's idea.)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 26, 2016, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.

Maybe. I think "Grandpa Rossy" is a little different just because Rizzo and Bryant kind of made his farewell tour a thing and we've all been in on the joke since spring training. Last night was just the culmination of that.

Ehh, the Cubs make the kinds of arguments about Ross that we mock Cardinals fans for making about Yadi. His worth is immeasurable, he makes the players around him better because leadership, he's the real MVP of the team, etc. If the Cardinals fans had done that for Tony Cruz or whatever we probably would have mocked them. I can understand a lot of people that aren't Cubs fans looking at the Ross thing and going "okay, chill out people".

The one fanbase that does not have a right to be outright butthurt about it (one of the Cardinals beat writers tweeted out that Maddon basically pulled Ross to delay the game and make the Cardinals lose focus in a key game, which is monumentally stupid) is the fanbase that basically invented giving standing ovations at the drop of a hat, provided whoever dropped said hat had the bill bent correctly and was not wearing it off to the side.

The distraction ploy totally worked. Their hero Yadi applauded Ross from the on-deck circle. Maddon strikes again.

(Joe said after the game that the 'catching change' mound visit was Lester's idea.)

On the other hand if the Cardinals are a team so mentally weak that they fall apart any time a crowd delays a game by cheering too hard for random bullshit it would explain their shit record at Busch this year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on September 26, 2016, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.

Maybe. I think "Grandpa Rossy" is a little different just because Rizzo and Bryant kind of made his farewell tour a thing and we've all been in on the joke since spring training. Last night was just the culmination of that.

Ehh, the Cubs make the kinds of arguments about Ross that we mock Cardinals fans for making about Yadi. His worth is immeasurable, he makes the players around him better because leadership, he's the real MVP of the team, etc. If the Cardinals fans had done that for Tony Cruz or whatever we probably would have mocked them. I can understand a lot of people that aren't Cubs fans looking at the Ross thing and going "okay, chill out people".

The one fanbase that does not have a right to be outright butthurt about it (one of the Cardinals beat writers tweeted out that Maddon basically pulled Ross to delay the game and make the Cardinals lose focus in a key game, which is monumentally stupid) is the fanbase that basically invented giving standing ovations at the drop of a hat, provided whoever dropped said hat had the bill bent correctly and was not wearing it off to the side.

The distraction ploy totally worked. Their hero Yadi applauded Ross from the on-deck circle. Maddon strikes again.

(Joe said after the game that the 'catching change' mound visit was Lester's idea.)

Lester and Joe should get on the same page cause Lester's presser gave me the impression that he had no idea.  Then again, I was watching it during my morning crap so I got distracted about 2 minutes in.

Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 01:42:46 PM
On the other hand if the Cardinals are a team so mentally weak that they fall apart any time a crowd delays a game by cheering too hard for random bullshit it would explain their shit record at Busch this year.

Hehe.  Funny.  Nice try at diverting attention away from Ross's 2-win, FYSKO season.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 26, 2016, 02:12:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 26, 2016, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.

Maybe. I think "Grandpa Rossy" is a little different just because Rizzo and Bryant kind of made his farewell tour a thing and we've all been in on the joke since spring training. Last night was just the culmination of that.

Ehh, the Cubs make the kinds of arguments about Ross that we mock Cardinals fans for making about Yadi. His worth is immeasurable, he makes the players around him better because leadership, he's the real MVP of the team, etc. If the Cardinals fans had done that for Tony Cruz or whatever we probably would have mocked them. I can understand a lot of people that aren't Cubs fans looking at the Ross thing and going "okay, chill out people".

The one fanbase that does not have a right to be outright butthurt about it (one of the Cardinals beat writers tweeted out that Maddon basically pulled Ross to delay the game and make the Cardinals lose focus in a key game, which is monumentally stupid) is the fanbase that basically invented giving standing ovations at the drop of a hat, provided whoever dropped said hat had the bill bent correctly and was not wearing it off to the side.

The distraction ploy totally worked. Their hero Yadi applauded Ross from the on-deck circle. Maddon strikes again.

(Joe said after the game that the 'catching change' mound visit was Lester's idea.)

Lester and Joe should get on the same page cause Lester's presser gave me the impression that he had no idea.  Then again, I was watching it during my morning crap so I got distracted about 2 minutes in.

Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 01:42:46 PM
On the other hand if the Cardinals are a team so mentally weak that they fall apart any time a crowd delays a game by cheering too hard for random bullshit it would explain their shit record at Busch this year.

Hehe.  Funny.  Nice try at diverting attention away from Ross's 2-win, FYSKO season.

I've been nothing but open and inviting to any and all FYSKOs on Grandpa Rossy's behalf, but nobody has even bothered for months now. Y'all got lazy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on September 26, 2016, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 02:12:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 26, 2016, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 26, 2016, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 26, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
The butthurt and mockery from these people over David Ross Appreciation Night absolutely blows my mind. "Hur dur look at the Cubs fans celebrating their stupid backup catcher" says a guy who gave Randal Grichuk a standing ovation for a homer that cut their deficit in a playoff game they eventually lost to 5-3 in the 5th inning.

I freely enjoyed David Ross Night, but if the Cardinals had done that for a backup catcher who'd played two seasons for them, we'd be mocking them too.

Maybe. I think "Grandpa Rossy" is a little different just because Rizzo and Bryant kind of made his farewell tour a thing and we've all been in on the joke since spring training. Last night was just the culmination of that.

Ehh, the Cubs make the kinds of arguments about Ross that we mock Cardinals fans for making about Yadi. His worth is immeasurable, he makes the players around him better because leadership, he's the real MVP of the team, etc. If the Cardinals fans had done that for Tony Cruz or whatever we probably would have mocked them. I can understand a lot of people that aren't Cubs fans looking at the Ross thing and going "okay, chill out people".

The one fanbase that does not have a right to be outright butthurt about it (one of the Cardinals beat writers tweeted out that Maddon basically pulled Ross to delay the game and make the Cardinals lose focus in a key game, which is monumentally stupid) is the fanbase that basically invented giving standing ovations at the drop of a hat, provided whoever dropped said hat had the bill bent correctly and was not wearing it off to the side.

The distraction ploy totally worked. Their hero Yadi applauded Ross from the on-deck circle. Maddon strikes again.

(Joe said after the game that the 'catching change' mound visit was Lester's idea.)

Lester and Joe should get on the same page cause Lester's presser gave me the impression that he had no idea.  Then again, I was watching it during my morning crap so I got distracted about 2 minutes in.

Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2016, 01:42:46 PM
On the other hand if the Cardinals are a team so mentally weak that they fall apart any time a crowd delays a game by cheering too hard for random bullshit it would explain their shit record at Busch this year.

Hehe.  Funny.  Nice try at diverting attention away from Ross's 2-win, FYSKO season.

I've been nothing but open and inviting to any and all FYSKOs on Grandpa Rossy's behalf, but nobody has even bothered for months now. Y'all got lazy.

I was waiting for the SNEAK ATTACK.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2016, 06:16:00 PM
Cardinals fans just don't realize you can have a tribute for a player while he's still alive.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.

Wouldn't matter if the Dodgers weren't terrified of the mighty Cardinals. (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on October 03, 2016, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.

Wouldn't matter if the Dodgers weren't terrified of the mighty Cardinals. (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)

The BFIB are also conveniently ignoring the fact that, had the Tards managed to win more than two games against the Dodgers in the regular season, the Giants' winning out would be largely irrelevant.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 03, 2016, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.

Wouldn't matter if the Dodgers weren't terrified of the mighty Cardinals. (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)

The BFIB are also conveniently ignoring the fact that, had the Tards managed to win more than two games against the Dodgers in the regular season, the Giants' winning out would be largely irrelevant.

My uncle has already pinned the entire season on losing that one game at Wrigley on the walk off walk that wasn't.

Nevermind that the pitcher had walked the bases full, there was only 1 out, Rizzo's kinda fuckin good at this, and it would only have been strike 2, and at best they still needed to take a lead and hold it. If the ump had called that one pitch correctly they'd have won and not missed the playoffs by a game.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 03, 2016, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.

Wouldn't matter if the Dodgers weren't terrified of the mighty Cardinals. (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)

The BFIB are also conveniently ignoring the fact that, had the Tards managed to win more than two games against the Dodgers in the regular season, the Giants' winning out would be largely irrelevant.

My uncle has already pinned the entire season on losing that one game at Wrigley on the walk off walk that wasn't.

Nevermind that the pitcher had walked the bases full, there was only 1 out, Rizzo's kinda fuckin good at this, and it would only have been strike 2, and at best they still needed to take a lead and hold it. If the ump had called that one pitch correctly they'd have won and not missed the playoffs by a game.

Nevermind they were given a game via a dumb replay technicality on a ground rule double.

A team wins and loses games that they shouldn't throughout a season. It's easy to point at the games you were screwed on, but you can't ignore the games you were gifted
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 03, 2016, 08:31:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 03, 2016, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.

Wouldn't matter if the Dodgers weren't terrified of the mighty Cardinals. (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)

The BFIB are also conveniently ignoring the fact that, had the Tards managed to win more than two games against the Dodgers in the regular season, the Giants' winning out would be largely irrelevant.

My uncle has already pinned the entire season on losing that one game at Wrigley on the walk off walk that wasn't.

Nevermind that the pitcher had walked the bases full, there was only 1 out, Rizzo's kinda fuckin good at this, and it would only have been strike 2, and at best they still needed to take a lead and hold it. If the ump had called that one pitch correctly they'd have won and not missed the playoffs by a game.

Nevermind they were given a game via a dumb replay technicality on a ground rule double.

A team wins and loses games that they shouldn't throughout a season. It's easy to point at the games you were screwed on, but you can't ignore the games you were gifted

Oh yeah, but no meatball wants to say "the reason we didn't make the playoffs is because we lost 76 games".
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on October 03, 2016, 08:34:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 08:31:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 03, 2016, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.

Wouldn't matter if the Dodgers weren't terrified of the mighty Cardinals. (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)

The BFIB are also conveniently ignoring the fact that, had the Tards managed to win more than two games against the Dodgers in the regular season, the Giants' winning out would be largely irrelevant.

My uncle has already pinned the entire season on losing that one game at Wrigley on the walk off walk that wasn't.

Nevermind that the pitcher had walked the bases full, there was only 1 out, Rizzo's kinda fuckin good at this, and it would only have been strike 2, and at best they still needed to take a lead and hold it. If the ump had called that one pitch correctly they'd have won and not missed the playoffs by a game.

Nevermind they were given a game via a dumb replay technicality on a ground rule double.

A team wins and loses games that they shouldn't throughout a season. It's easy to point at the games you were screwed on, but you can't ignore the games you were gifted

Oh yeah, but no meatball wants to say "the reason we didn't make the playoffs is because we lost 76 games".

Or "we're an aging team that isn't nearly as good as we once were."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on October 03, 2016, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 03, 2016, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.

Wouldn't matter if the Dodgers weren't terrified of the mighty Cardinals. (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)

The BFIB are also conveniently ignoring the fact that, had the Tards managed to win more than two games against the Dodgers in the regular season, the Giants' winning out would be largely irrelevant.

My uncle has already pinned the entire season on losing that one game at Wrigley on the walk off walk that wasn't.

Nevermind that the pitcher had walked the bases full, there was only 1 out, Rizzo's kinda fuckin good at this, and it would only have been strike 2, and at best they still needed to take a lead and hold it. If the ump had called that one pitch correctly they'd have won and not missed the playoffs by a game.

Good, so now he knows how we feel that  Carlos Marmol's inexplicable decision to hang a slider to Ryan Theriot in a 2011 game (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN201106050.shtml) ultimately  allowed the Cardinals to reach the postseason (they got in by a game), and ultimately win a stupid World Series.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 03, 2016, 12:18:56 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Please, just fuck these guys. They're already 4 behind in the loss column to the Cubs, and they are only going to fall further behind.

At this point they're going to have to duke it out for the Seligcard. They don't fucking matter.

No one thinks this is true.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 03, 2016, 01:08:24 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 03, 2016, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: flannj on October 02, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
If only the Cardinals had won the season series against the Cubs.

Have fun with that SKO.

Wouldn't matter if the Dodgers weren't terrified of the mighty Cardinals. (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)

The BFIB are also conveniently ignoring the fact that, had the Tards managed to win more than two games against the Dodgers in the regular season, the Giants' winning out would be largely irrelevant.

My uncle has already pinned the entire season on losing that one game at Wrigley on the walk off walk that wasn't.

Nevermind that the pitcher had walked the bases full, there was only 1 out, Rizzo's kinda fuckin good at this, and it would only have been strike 2, and at best they still needed to take a lead and hold it. If the ump had called that one pitch correctly they'd have won and not missed the playoffs by a game.

Nevermind they were given a game via a dumb replay technicality on a ground rule double.

A team wins and loses games that they shouldn't throughout a season. It's easy to point at the games you were screwed on, but you can't ignore the games you were gifted

I was driving in listening to the MLB channel on Sirius and they had Joe Torre on. He was saying very dumb things about that play. According to Joe, who has never once insulted or treated an umpire badly, some things have to fall on the managers to initiate, because reasons. If the manager doesn't immediately cry foul, too bad so sad get the hell out of Joe Torre's office. The umpires handled it right, and what's everyone yelling about, MLB replay is perfect, we have cut down the time it takes "from challenge to result" so what more do you people want? (He pretended not to hear the question about all the time that's wasted deciding whether or not to challenge, when everyone stands around on the field doing nothing, and chose to answer a different question only he could hear instead.)

Then he said we can't have robot umpires because the human element takes a lot of pride in calling those pitches [incorrectly 12% of the time according to the hosts]. So your favorite team needs to suffer some bad losses here and there because Joe Torre doesn't want to hurt the umpires'  feelings. And the whole point of replay isn't to get the calls right, it's to challenge all the managers to a game of challenge chicken. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on October 03, 2016, 02:44:02 PM
I was thinking maybe they shouldn't have lost 9 games to the Reds. But maybe that's just me. I don't know.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 03, 2016, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 03, 2016, 02:44:02 PM
I was thinking maybe they shouldn't have lost 9 games to the Reds. But maybe that's just me. I don't know.

They were tanking because they didn't want to face the Reds in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 03, 2016, 02:49:53 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 03, 2016, 02:44:02 PM
I was thinking maybe they shouldn't have lost 9 games to the Reds. But maybe that's just me. I don't know.

And they needed a blown call to keep it from being 10.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 11, 2016, 11:57:46 PM
Please.  Someone tell me what they are saying in Deadbirdland.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 12, 2016, 12:03:12 AM
Quote from: CBStew on October 11, 2016, 11:57:46 PM
Please.  Someone tell me what they are saying in Deadbirdland.


Something about President Trump jailing all the black people
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on November 09, 2016, 08:39:02 AM
Things are looking up. They won't even have to pretend to hide their racism anymore.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on February 14, 2017, 03:24:36 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cardinals-top-prospect-alex-reyes-has-mri-on-first-day-of-camp-185108121.html Lolololololololololololololololololololololol. Just means more starts for Michael Batting Practice Wacha.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: ChuckD on February 14, 2017, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: Shooter on November 09, 2016, 08:39:02 AM
Things are looking up. They won't even have to pretend to hide their racism anymore.

(http://i.imgur.com/TvcsmMa.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on February 14, 2017, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on February 14, 2017, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: Shooter on November 09, 2016, 08:39:02 AM
Things are looking up. They won't even have to pretend to hide their racism anymore.

(http://i.imgur.com/TvcsmMa.jpg)

MLK is another one of those up-and-comers who's getting recognized more and more. Call me crazy but I think he and Frederick Douglass will be trading headlines for years to come.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on February 14, 2017, 11:49:29 PM
One day into spring training and Mike Matheny is already prepared to fight a laptop (http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/02/14/mike-matheny-calls-his-teams-ugly-pecota-projection-unbelievable/) to defend the Cardinal Way.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on February 15, 2017, 09:48:55 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 14, 2017, 11:49:29 PM
One day into spring training and Mike Matheny is already prepared to fight a laptop (http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/02/14/mike-matheny-calls-his-teams-ugly-pecota-projection-unbelievable/) to defend the Cardinal Way.

Wonder how many Reyes starts PECOTA projected.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on February 15, 2017, 09:58:50 AM
Quote from: thehawk on February 15, 2017, 09:48:55 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 14, 2017, 11:49:29 PM
One day into spring training and Mike Matheny is already prepared to fight a laptop (http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/02/14/mike-matheny-calls-his-teams-ugly-pecota-projection-unbelievable/) to defend the Cardinal Way.

Wonder how many Reyes starts PECOTA projected.

23 games started, 121 IP, 4.04 ERA, 3.96 FIP, 1.5 WARP was their projection. His starts are mostly likely going to be taken (for as long as he can stay healthy) by Wacha, who has a 5.50 ERA in his last 29 starts going back to September of 2015 and projects for a 4.81 ERA and just 0.3 WARP.

So they probably lost a win overall.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 02, 2017, 11:43:54 PM
Congrats to the 15,000 Cardinals fans who remained to see the walk off!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on April 12, 2017, 08:25:33 AM
lol

Also I found this interesting:

Stephen Piscotty, first 476 major league PAs, 2015-2016:
.313/.378/.495, 13 HR, 8.6 % BB, 19.5 K%, .373 BABIP, 138 wRC+

Next 450 PA, 2016-2017:
.245/.315/.426, 16 HR, 7.3% BB, 22.9 K%, .289 BABIP, 99 wRC+

Considering this goober has been a negative value baserunner so far in his career I doubt he's going to be legging out many more .350+ BABIPs (he usually hovered right around .300 in the minors) so I'm thinking the second guy is closer to the "real" Piscotty than anything. Congrats, the next great Cardinals player is actually Matt Murton.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 12, 2017, 05:18:46 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2017, 08:25:33 AM
lol

Also I found this interesting:

Stephen Piscotty, first 476 major league PAs, 2015-2016:
.313/.378/.495, 13 HR, 8.6 % BB, 19.5 K%, .373 BABIP, 138 wRC+

Next 450 PA, 2016-2017:
.245/.315/.426, 16 HR, 7.3% BB, 22.9 K%, .289 BABIP, 99 wRC+

Considering this goober has been a negative value baserunner so far in his career I doubt he's going to be legging out many more .350+ BABIPs (he usually hovered right around .300 in the minors) so I'm thinking the second guy is closer to the "real" Piscotty than anything. Congrats, the next great Cardinals player is actually Matt Murton.

Is Kolten Wong the next Bobby Hill (RIP)?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on May 03, 2017, 01:45:08 PM
Cardinals fans hoping for a shot in the arm got just that last night. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/ct-stray-bullet-hits-woman-busch-stadium-20170503-story.html)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 04, 2017, 12:48:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 03, 2017, 01:45:08 PM
Cardinals fans hoping for a shot in the arm got just that last night. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/ct-stray-bullet-hits-woman-busch-stadium-20170503-story.html)

QuoteSt. Louis police said the incident simply "amplifies our yearly message of encouraging 'Fun Without Guns.'"

Indeed.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on May 04, 2017, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 04, 2017, 12:48:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 03, 2017, 01:45:08 PM
Cardinals fans hoping for a shot in the arm got just that last night. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/ct-stray-bullet-hits-woman-busch-stadium-20170503-story.html)

QuoteSt. Louis police said the incident simply "amplifies our yearly message of encouraging 'Fun Without Guns.'"

Indeed.

Pshaw!  Not bloody likely!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 05, 2017, 02:07:08 PM
True ROY and MVP Stephen Pisscotty to the DL.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on May 05, 2017, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 05, 2017, 02:07:08 PM
True ROY and MVP Stephen Pisscotty to the DL.

I think Grichuk was the dROY and dMVP, no?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 05, 2017, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 05, 2017, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 05, 2017, 02:07:08 PM
True ROY and MVP Stephen Pisscotty to the DL.

I think Grichuk was the dROY and dMVP, no?

They both were, because both were better than that overrated Bryant guy.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on May 05, 2017, 04:27:56 PM
Will Dex join him?\
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 14, 2017, 02:06:58 PM
Make the Cardinals Methocalypse Great Again!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 04, 2017, 09:39:24 PM
Fuck off, Cardinals.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on June 05, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.

On an unrelated note, how's your fitness routine going? Are you still running? I'm up to 10K two or three days a week. Thinking about a half marathon in the future.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on June 05, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.

On an unrelated note, how's your fitness routine going? Are you still running? I'm up to 10K two or three days a week. Thinking about a half marathon in the future.

Running in South-East Asia is basically impossible: even if you can find somewhere to do it (and mostly, you can't) it's way too hot and humid.  My weight's pretty stable though, at least, so although I'll be more or less starting from scratch when I get back, I'm hopeful that I'll get back up to speed pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on June 05, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.

On an unrelated note, how's your fitness routine going? Are you still running? I'm up to 10K two or three days a week. Thinking about a half marathon in the future.

Running in South-East Asia is basically impossible: even if you can find somewhere to do it (and mostly, you can't) it's way too hot and humid.  My weight's pretty stable though, at least, so although I'll be more or less starting from scratch when I get back, I'm hopeful that I'll get back up to speed pretty quickly.

Off topic: I missed the front end of this, but just how long are you going to be in SE Asia? Seems like you've already been there longer than the US was.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on June 05, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.

On an unrelated note, how's your fitness routine going? Are you still running? I'm up to 10K two or three days a week. Thinking about a half marathon in the future.

Running in South-East Asia is basically impossible: even if you can find somewhere to do it (and mostly, you can't) it's way too hot and humid.  My weight's pretty stable though, at least, so although I'll be more or less starting from scratch when I get back, I'm hopeful that I'll get back up to speed pretty quickly.

Off topic: I missed the front end of this, but just how long are you going to be in SE Asia? Seems like you've already been there longer than the US was.

STonk and the kids arrived in Thailand in the second week of January and will be back in NL in the middle of August.  I joined them at the end of February and will be back in NL at the beginning of August.  We've seen Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam and Malaysia, STonk's currently in Indonesia (Bali) for a week by herself, and there's Sri Lanka, Singapore and South Korea still to come.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 05, 2017, 09:18:25 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on June 05, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.

On an unrelated note, how's your fitness routine going? Are you still running? I'm up to 10K two or three days a week. Thinking about a half marathon in the future.

Running in South-East Asia is basically impossible: even if you can find somewhere to do it (and mostly, you can't) it's way too hot and humid.  My weight's pretty stable though, at least, so although I'll be more or less starting from scratch when I get back, I'm hopeful that I'll get back up to speed pretty quickly.

Off topic: I missed the front end of this, but just how long are you going to be in SE Asia? Seems like you've already been there longer than the US was.

STonk and the kids arrived in Thailand in the second week of January and will be back in NL in the middle of August.  I joined them at the end of February and will be back in NL at the beginning of August.  We've seen Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam and Malaysia, STonk's currently in Indonesia (Bali) for a week by herself, and there's Sri Lanka, Singapore and South Korea still to come.


You must be dying for a nice ram's ball pie.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 09:37:51 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on June 05, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.

On an unrelated note, how's your fitness routine going? Are you still running? I'm up to 10K two or three days a week. Thinking about a half marathon in the future.

Running in South-East Asia is basically impossible: even if you can find somewhere to do it (and mostly, you can't) it's way too hot and humid.  My weight's pretty stable though, at least, so although I'll be more or less starting from scratch when I get back, I'm hopeful that I'll get back up to speed pretty quickly.

Off topic: I missed the front end of this, but just how long are you going to be in SE Asia? Seems like you've already been there longer than the US was.

STonk and the kids arrived in Thailand in the second week of January and will be back in NL in the middle of August.  I joined them at the end of February and will be back in NL at the beginning of August.  We've seen Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam and Malaysia, STonk's currently in Indonesia (Bali) for a week by herself, and there's Sri Lanka, Singapore and South Korea still to come.

Work related? Sabbatical? Insane jealousy on this end.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 09:41:10 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 09:37:51 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on June 05, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.

On an unrelated note, how's your fitness routine going? Are you still running? I'm up to 10K two or three days a week. Thinking about a half marathon in the future.

Running in South-East Asia is basically impossible: even if you can find somewhere to do it (and mostly, you can't) it's way too hot and humid.  My weight's pretty stable though, at least, so although I'll be more or less starting from scratch when I get back, I'm hopeful that I'll get back up to speed pretty quickly.

Off topic: I missed the front end of this, but just how long are you going to be in SE Asia? Seems like you've already been there longer than the US was.

STonk and the kids arrived in Thailand in the second week of January and will be back in NL in the middle of August.  I joined them at the end of February and will be back in NL at the beginning of August.  We've seen Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam and Malaysia, STonk's currently in Indonesia (Bali) for a week by herself, and there's Sri Lanka, Singapore and South Korea still to come.

Work related? Sabbatical? Insane jealousy on this end.

Three months' vacation (with four months' pay) and two months' sabbatical.  Socialist Utopia FTW.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 05, 2017, 09:55:54 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 09:41:10 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 09:37:51 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on June 05, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 05, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
There are very few things in life that I enjoy more than the Cubs sweeping the Cardinals.

Hummers, maybe.  Kuma's Led Zep.  Two or three really good martinis.  But that's about it.

On an unrelated note, how's your fitness routine going? Are you still running? I'm up to 10K two or three days a week. Thinking about a half marathon in the future.

Running in South-East Asia is basically impossible: even if you can find somewhere to do it (and mostly, you can't) it's way too hot and humid.  My weight's pretty stable though, at least, so although I'll be more or less starting from scratch when I get back, I'm hopeful that I'll get back up to speed pretty quickly.

Off topic: I missed the front end of this, but just how long are you going to be in SE Asia? Seems like you've already been there longer than the US was.

STonk and the kids arrived in Thailand in the second week of January and will be back in NL in the middle of August.  I joined them at the end of February and will be back in NL at the beginning of August.  We've seen Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam and Malaysia, STonk's currently in Indonesia (Bali) for a week by herself, and there's Sri Lanka, Singapore and South Korea still to come.

Work related? Sabbatical? Insane jealousy on this end.

Three months' vacation (with four months' pay) and two months' sabbatical.  Socialist Utopia FTW.

Thanks Obummer.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 05, 2017, 10:06:44 AM

I cannot fully express my delight at the Cardinals organization's de-emphasis on team defense.

I think they're replacing death by DWI with Piscotty killing somebody out there by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 05, 2017, 10:06:44 AM

I cannot fully express my delight at the Cardinals organization's de-emphasis on team defense.

I think they're replacing death by DWI with Piscotty killing somebody out there by the end of the year.

Since September 1, 2015, the vaunted Cardinals are 129-123 including a first round playoff pantsing in 4 games.

They are bad.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 05, 2017, 10:30:29 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 05, 2017, 10:06:44 AM

I cannot fully express my delight at the Cardinals organization's de-emphasis on team defense.

I think they're replacing death by DWI with Piscotty killing somebody out there by the end of the year.

Since September 1, 2015, the vaunted Cardinals are 129-123 including a first round playoff pantsing in 4 games.

They are bad.

Being bad is one thing.

Having their fielders look like a bunch of monkeys trying to fuck a football is entertaining as hell.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 05, 2017, 10:30:29 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 05, 2017, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 05, 2017, 10:06:44 AM

I cannot fully express my delight at the Cardinals organization's de-emphasis on team defense.

I think they're replacing death by DWI with Piscotty killing somebody out there by the end of the year.

Since September 1, 2015, the vaunted Cardinals are 129-123 including a first round playoff pantsing in 4 games.

They are bad.

Being bad is one thing.

Having their fielders look like a bunch of monkeys trying to fuck a football is entertaining as hell.

Bill Maher has hacked your account.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 05, 2017, 11:19:48 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 05, 2017, 10:06:44 AM

I cannot fully express my delight at the Cardinals organization's de-emphasis on team defense.

I think they're replacing death by DWI with Piscotty killing somebody out there by the end of the year.

Grichuk sucks ass but he's also their best defensive OF. Fowler is average at best defensively and that's a larger CF than he had in Chicago. Piscotty is Matt Murton all of the way around. Aledmys Diaz regressing to being a liability on both sides of the ball has been fun, too.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 07, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Scooter Gennett, hahahaha
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 07, 2017, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 07, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Scooter Gennett, hahahaha

Don't let Scooter's big night overshadow this (http://www.bleachernation.com/baseballisfun/2017/06/06/the-cardinals-got-their-own-catch-overturned-on-replay-and-then-gave-up-a-grand-slam/) too much.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on June 07, 2017, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 07, 2017, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 07, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Scooter Gennett, hahahaha

Don't let Scooter's big night overshadow this (http://www.bleachernation.com/baseballisfun/2017/06/06/the-cardinals-got-their-own-catch-overturned-on-replay-and-then-gave-up-a-grand-slam/) too much.

I think I enjoyed that more.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on June 07, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on June 07, 2017, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 07, 2017, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 07, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Scooter Gennett, hahahaha

Don't let Scooter's big night overshadow this (http://www.bleachernation.com/baseballisfun/2017/06/06/the-cardinals-got-their-own-catch-overturned-on-replay-and-then-gave-up-a-grand-slam/) too much.

I think I enjoyed that more.

Christ, that was hilarious.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 22, 2017, 05:43:58 PM
Cardinals' turn to get their shit wrecked in the 8th inning. And Molina striking out to end it was worth the two walks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 24, 2017, 02:42:22 AM
Scrub-ass Randal Grichuk can go straight to hell.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on July 24, 2017, 03:26:55 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 24, 2017, 02:42:22 AM
Scrub-ass Randal Grichuk can go straight to hell.

As can Molina. I was kind of hoping that the Cubs would win by just one run to rub in the fact that Yadi got caught trying to walk from first to second around two pitches before De Jong went yard.  I can't believe he really thought he could take on Willson's arm and win.  I'm bloody sure he won't do it again.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 24, 2017, 08:08:10 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 24, 2017, 03:26:55 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 24, 2017, 02:42:22 AM
Scrub-ass Randal Grichuk can go straight to hell.

As can Molina. I was kind of hoping that the Cubs would win by just one run to rub in the fact that Yadi got caught trying to walk from first to second around two pitches before De Jong went yard.  I can't believe he really thought he could take on Willson's arm and win.  I'm bloody sure he won't do it again.

He clearly had issues with being the second-best catcher in the park.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 24, 2017, 08:09:50 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 24, 2017, 08:08:10 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 24, 2017, 03:26:55 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 24, 2017, 02:42:22 AM
Scrub-ass Randal Grichuk can go straight to hell.

As can Molina. I was kind of hoping that the Cubs would win by just one run to rub in the fact that Yadi got caught trying to walk from first to second around two pitches before De Jong went yard.  I can't believe he really thought he could take on Willson's arm and win.  I'm bloody sure he won't do it again.

He clearly had issues with being the second-best catcher in the park.

Yadi has seemed more and more irritated and easily flustered every time they play the Cubs since 2015. I mean who can forget him arguing with the ump as Montero's double cleared the bases and gave the Cubs the lead in the Strop-Peralta Game? I think he more than anyone other than maybe Wainwright has always made the whole BFIB thing part of his identity and always took for granted that this was their division and always would be, and the Cubs taking it right from them has broken his brain more than most.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on July 24, 2017, 09:50:53 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2017, 08:09:50 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 24, 2017, 08:08:10 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 24, 2017, 03:26:55 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 24, 2017, 02:42:22 AM
Scrub-ass Randal Grichuk can go straight to hell.

As can Molina. I was kind of hoping that the Cubs would win by just one run to rub in the fact that Yadi got caught trying to walk from first to second around two pitches before De Jong went yard.  I can't believe he really thought he could take on Willson's arm and win.  I'm bloody sure he won't do it again.

He clearly had issues with being the second-best catcher in the park.

Yadi has seemed more and more irritated and easily flustered every time they play the Cubs since 2015. I mean who can forget him arguing with the ump as Montero's double cleared the bases and gave the Cubs the lead in the Strop-Peralta Game? I think he more than anyone other than maybe Wainwright has always made the whole BFIB thing part of his identity and always took for granted that this was their division and always would be, and the Cubs taking it right from them has broken his brain more than most.

(http://www.ksdk.com/img/resize/content.ksdk.com/photo/2017/04/06/GettyImages-665430426_1491516731475_9177708_ver1.0.jpg?preset=534-401)

Apropos of little, just like it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on July 24, 2017, 10:33:08 AM
Also I mention the Strop-Peralta game bc even though that felt soul-crushing at the time it was definitely the turning point in the rivalry.

Cards since that day, including post-season:
179-162 (.525 winning %)

Cubs:
220-142 (.608)

Head to Head including 2015 NLDS:
Cubs 25, Cardinals 16 (Cubs +36 in those games)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on July 28, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis/status/890221968947130368 (https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis/status/890221968947130368)

So Bader = Trout.  Well, of course he does.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 28, 2017, 02:59:42 PM
Let's check in on that fabled Right Way team chemistry, shall we?

Yadier Molina rips Matheny on Instagram (http://deadspin.com/yadier-molina-tells-mike-matheny-to-can-it-1797341936)

Oh yeah. That's the stuff.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 01, 2017, 04:48:08 AM
This column was delicious, too. (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-gap-between-cards-and-cubs-widens-at-trade-deadline/article_9f6cca32-e31c-5335-8792-ecfe8d6363bb.html)

Also, if you printed it out, wadded it up, and ate it, it would still taste better than St. Louis-style "pizza."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 01, 2017, 08:15:07 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 01, 2017, 04:48:08 AM
This column was delicious, too. (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-gap-between-cards-and-cubs-widens-at-trade-deadline/article_9f6cca32-e31c-5335-8792-ecfe8d6363bb.html)

Also, if you printed it out, wadded it up, and ate it, it would still taste better than St. Louis-style "pizza."

Yeah I will never get tired of it breaking these people's brains that the Cubs are just better at everything now.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 01, 2017, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 01, 2017, 08:15:07 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 01, 2017, 04:48:08 AM
This column was delicious, too. (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-gap-between-cards-and-cubs-widens-at-trade-deadline/article_9f6cca32-e31c-5335-8792-ecfe8d6363bb.html)

Also, if you printed it out, wadded it up, and ate it, it would still taste better than St. Louis-style "pizza."

Yeah I will never get tired of it breaking these people's brains that the Cubs are just better at everything now.

Has anybody watched the 2 Bens videos? They look like a fucking hoot.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2017, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

Sure. Low risk, high ceiling. Go for it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 02:23:42 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2017, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

Sure. Low risk, high ceiling. Go for it.

Besides, they owe us for Jason Motte.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.

The "sign an injured high ceiling guy for cheap" was used by Hendry a few times. Dempster was the most obvious example. Chad Fox was another.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 25, 2017, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.

The "sign an injured high ceiling guy for cheap" was used by Hendry a few times. Dempster was the most obvious example. Chad Fox was another.

Before he signed them, were any of them ever as good as Rosenthal has been at his best?  Chad Fox had a few strong years, especially 2001, but never with as many saves as Rosenthal.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 25, 2017, 07:47:35 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 25, 2017, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.

The "sign an injured high ceiling guy for cheap" was used by Hendry a few times. Dempster was the most obvious example. Chad Fox was another.

Before he signed them, were any of them ever as good as Rosenthal has been at his best?  Chad Fox had a few strong years, especially 2001, but never with as many saves as Rosenthal.

The Dempster signing wasn't bad. The man was worth nearly 20 wins as a Cub. I hate him as much as the next dude for all of his extraneous bullshit and his postseason failures/failures down the stretch in 04 (lest Huey yells at me for forgetting), but if you're just analyzing the transaction he was pretty fuckin good for a guy they got off of the scrap heap.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 25, 2017, 08:06:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.

The "sign an injured high ceiling guy for cheap" was used by Hendry a few times. Dempster was the most obvious example. Chad Fox was another.

I thought Van Poppel was a little more obvious than Fox.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on August 25, 2017, 08:11:30 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 25, 2017, 08:06:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.

The "sign an injured high ceiling guy for cheap" was used by Hendry a few times. Dempster was the most obvious example. Chad Fox was another.

I thought Van Poppel was a little more obvious than Fox.

Good comp. I'd forgotten about him. Also, I'm not ragging on Hnedry for this. It's a smart strategy. You spend $1mm on a potential $15mm talent. If one pans out you've got gold. It's like investing in penny stocks.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on August 25, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 25, 2017, 08:06:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.

The "sign an injured high ceiling guy for cheap" was used by Hendry a few times. Dempster was the most obvious example. Chad Fox was another.

I thought Van Poppel was a little more obvious than Fox.

Van Poppel was pre-Hendry.  It was either Lynch or MacPhail who took a flyer on him.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 25, 2017, 09:35:26 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on August 25, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 25, 2017, 08:06:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.

The "sign an injured high ceiling guy for cheap" was used by Hendry a few times. Dempster was the most obvious example. Chad Fox was another.

I thought Van Poppel was a little more obvious than Fox.

Van Poppel was pre-Hendry.  It was either Lynch or MacPhail who took a flyer on him.

So signing injured guys on the cheap and hoping they pan out isn't exclusive to Hendry. Casey Kelly is in the Cubs Giants system somewhere, and that's a Jepstink signing.

ETA: Must have let my subscription to the Casey Kelly newsletter lapse.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on August 25, 2017, 09:38:28 AM
Literally every team signs guys like that at some point. It's pretty much entirely how the Pirates built their pitching staff before Taillon etc started coming up from the minors.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on August 25, 2017, 10:55:25 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 25, 2017, 07:47:35 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 25, 2017, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 24, 2017, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I am 100% in favor of signing him to a two-year deal, managing his rehab, and turning him into a revenge-hungry firethrowing monster in 2019's bullpen. Maybe this should go into the I Admit It thread.

That strategy is known as "Dempster by Hendry."

No, Chuck. Dempster had made five relief appearances in six seasons before Hendry signed him. Rosenthal is already well established as a high-leverage reliever. There's injury similarity but that's it.

The "sign an injured high ceiling guy for cheap" was used by Hendry a few times. Dempster was the most obvious example. Chad Fox was another.

Before he signed them, were any of them ever as good as Rosenthal has been at his best?  Chad Fox had a few strong years, especially 2001, but never with as many saves as Rosenthal.

The Dempster signing wasn't bad. The man was worth nearly 20 wins as a Cub. I hate him as much as the next dude for all of his extraneous bullshit and his postseason failures/failures down the stretch in 04 (lest Huey yells at me for forgetting), but if you're just analyzing the transaction he was pretty fuckin good for a guy they got off of the scrap heap.

And he begat Kyle Hendricks instead of a disappointing (in hindsight) Randall Delgado because he didn't want to go to Atlanta.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 08, 2017, 12:29:07 PM
Bump for getting shut out by our old friend Clayton Richard.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 08, 2017, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2017, 12:29:07 PM
Bump for getting shut out by our old friend Clayton Richard.

And still not scoring despite Brad Hand giving up three (!) hits in the ninth inning. Why is that? Because old friend Dexter Fowler, standing at the plate with the bases loaded as the potential go-ahead run, struck out on a slider in the dirt to end the game.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 08, 2017, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 08, 2017, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2017, 12:29:07 PM
Bump for getting shut out by our old friend Clayton Richard.

And still not scoring despite Brad Hand giving up three (!) hits in the ninth inning. Why is that? Because old friend and stealth Cub Dexter Fowler, standing at the plate with the bases loaded as the potential go-ahead run, struck out on a slider in the dirt to end the game.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
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Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
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Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
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Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I just really love how many of them honestly believed last year was a fluke, the Cubs would go right back to irrelevance, the Cardinals were somehow the team on the rise. Their entire worldview has been shaped around taking it for granted that they'd always be better than the Cubs and they are just really trying hard to fight the evidence in front of their own eyes. It's never going to be what it was, people. This division will never be your playground again.

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on September 18, 2017, 10:11:44 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



Ozzie Who? He has a message for St. Louis, mang:

(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/armchair-new/images/b/b9/Ozzie-guillen-choke.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100906165748)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning?
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning?
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



Fun fact: Tommy Pham is 29 fucking years old. He's not young at all. He's just a career minor leaguer who finally figured it out just in time to flash in the pan before his decline phase.

I heard that a lot from Cardinals fans lately. "Next year we'll be a younger team etc etc". 5 of their likely starters next year (Molina, Fowler, Gyorko, Pham, Carpenter) will be at least 29 or older. Guys like Grichuk, Piscotty, and Wong are no longer young prospects, they're three or more years in and decidedly average. Paul DeJong was a non prospect for a reason. He's struck out 115 times and only walked 17 times (one of which we know from experience WASN'T A FUCKING WALK), after the requisite Cardinals Rando Insanely Hot Streak he's got a .666 OPS over the last month. He'll struggle in year two just like Diaz, Grichuk, Piscotty and every other mediocre chud they had who benefitted from a bunch of fastballs and BABIP luck. None of their "young" guys are anything but role players.

TL;DR: they're going to keep winning just enough games to avoid a protected pick while missing the playoffs for another year or two before rebuilding too late to really cash in any of their chips and it's going to be fucking great.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CT III on September 18, 2017, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



If I'm picking Javy moments it's probably him busting his ass into the OF to play that weird carom off the side wall and throw Piscotty out at 2nd in Friday's game.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 18, 2017, 10:30:04 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 18, 2017, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



If I'm picking Javy moments it's probably him busting his ass into the OF to play that weird carom off the side wall and throw Piscotty out at 2nd in Friday's game.

Yeah--some of the plays above additionally qualify under "Bullshit That The Cardinals Used To Always Luck Themselves Into"--and disregarding the skill and hustle that Baez had on display on that play for a moment, the "carom" part felt like very satisfying karmic retribution (as did the Russell "hosanna" at-bat)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



If the entire bottom of the 6th Friday is not an option I think I will take Yadi's double play after the KB error yesterday. Nothing seems to me to mark how much things have changed in this rivalry than the fact that Yadi's signature 17 hopper-RBI-single-just-past-diving-shortstop has now been replaced by (Cardinal) soul-crushing routine double play.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on September 18, 2017, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



I know it's meatbally but Friday's outburst by Lackey and Contreras with the subsequent offensive explosion made my sack tingle.
It was a fuck the umps, fuck the Cardinals, we're going to beat your ass no matter what moment.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning?
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning?
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



Fun fact: Tommy Pham is 29 fucking years old. He's not young at all. He's just a career minor leaguer who finally figured it out just in time to flash in the pan before his decline phase.

I heard that a lot from Cardinals fans lately. "Next year we'll be a younger team etc etc". 5 of their likely starters next year (Molina, Fowler, Gyorko, Pham, Carpenter) will be at least 29 or older. Guys like Grichuk, Piscotty, and Wong are no longer young prospects, they're three or more years in and decidedly average. Paul DeJong was a non prospect for a reason. He's struck out 115 times and only walked 17 times (one of which we know from experience WASN'T A FUCKING WALK), after the requisite Cardinals Rando Insanely Hot Streak he's got a .666 OPS over the last month. He'll struggle in year two just like Diaz, Grichuk, Piscotty and every other mediocre chud they had who benefitted from a bunch of fastballs and BABIP luck. None of their "young" guys are anything but role players.

TL;DR: they're going to keep winning just enough games to avoid a protected pick while missing the playoffs for another year or two before rebuilding too late to really cash in any of their chips and it's going to be fucking great.

I thought the Pham thing was in reference to Pat Hughes continuously calling him "Young Tommy Pham".
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 18, 2017, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning?
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning?
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



Fun fact: Tommy Pham is 29 fucking years old. He's not young at all. He's just a career minor leaguer who finally figured it out just in time to flash in the pan before his decline phase.

I heard that a lot from Cardinals fans lately. "Next year we'll be a younger team etc etc". 5 of their likely starters next year (Molina, Fowler, Gyorko, Pham, Carpenter) will be at least 29 or older. Guys like Grichuk, Piscotty, and Wong are no longer young prospects, they're three or more years in and decidedly average. Paul DeJong was a non prospect for a reason. He's struck out 115 times and only walked 17 times (one of which we know from experience WASN'T A FUCKING WALK), after the requisite Cardinals Rando Insanely Hot Streak he's got a .666 OPS over the last month. He'll struggle in year two just like Diaz, Grichuk, Piscotty and every other mediocre chud they had who benefitted from a bunch of fastballs and BABIP luck. None of their "young" guys are anything but role players.

TL;DR: they're going to keep winning just enough games to avoid a protected pick while missing the playoffs for another year or two before rebuilding too late to really cash in any of their chips and it's going to be fucking great.

I thought the Pham thing was in reference to Pat Hughes continuously calling him "Young Tommy Pham".

It was not; I truly didn't know he was that old.

Also, SKO is right--I should have made the "bottom of the 6th" on Friday one whole choice.  I couldn't think of anything besides the botched force at home that particularly stood out (other than the near-botched baserunning by the Cubs at the beginning which could've torpedoed the inning but instead sort of jump-started it), but for a "death by a thousand cuts" inning, that's up there.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 18, 2017, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning?
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning?
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



Fun fact: Tommy Pham is 29 fucking years old. He's not young at all. He's just a career minor leaguer who finally figured it out just in time to flash in the pan before his decline phase.

I heard that a lot from Cardinals fans lately. "Next year we'll be a younger team etc etc". 5 of their likely starters next year (Molina, Fowler, Gyorko, Pham, Carpenter) will be at least 29 or older. Guys like Grichuk, Piscotty, and Wong are no longer young prospects, they're three or more years in and decidedly average. Paul DeJong was a non prospect for a reason. He's struck out 115 times and only walked 17 times (one of which we know from experience WASN'T A FUCKING WALK), after the requisite Cardinals Rando Insanely Hot Streak he's got a .666 OPS over the last month. He'll struggle in year two just like Diaz, Grichuk, Piscotty and every other mediocre chud they had who benefitted from a bunch of fastballs and BABIP luck. None of their "young" guys are anything but role players.

TL;DR: they're going to keep winning just enough games to avoid a protected pick while missing the playoffs for another year or two before rebuilding too late to really cash in any of their chips and it's going to be fucking great.

I thought the Pham thing was in reference to Pat Hughes continuously calling him "Young Tommy Pham".

ah fair enough. Reminds me of when I'd get annoyed with fans excusing Theriot brain farts or baserunning gaffes because of his "youth" when he was a 27 year old rookie in 2007.

I also enjoyed that the Cardinals apparently let their best hitter languish in AAA for part of the season so Matheny could try Fat Adams in LF.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 18, 2017, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
CUBS POLL: WHAT WAS YOU FAVORITE MOMENT FROM THE WEEKEND?


#1 - Yadi failing to scoop a bad throw from Martinez Friday that would've been a  big out and maybe stemmed the eventual bloodbath that inning
#2 - Yadi rolling into a Double Play against Hendricks Saturday when it was 0-0 in the 3rd inning?
#3 - Shrimp Dejonge becoming Hendricks' 8th pickoff victim of the year the next inning?
#4 - CJ Edwards coming into a suddenly tense game to face STL's true legitimate good young hitter in Pham, and setting his ass down on 3 pitches in the 8th on Saturday
#5 - Russell coming in to pinch-hit in the bottom half of the inning, first action in 6 weeks, getting a standing "O", then proceeding to basically ice the game by dropping one into the back goddamn row of the bleachers and getting a second Standing "O"
#6 - Russell catching the last out of the game Saturday.
#7 - Another Schwarbomb to put them up yesterday
#8- Yadi's second rally-killing, bases-loaded double-play of the weekend in the 4th yesterday.
#9- Heyward delivering not just the back-breaking RBI for the sweep (and virtual elimination), but one that was the result of one of his better swings and better-struck balls all year (and a reminder that about the only awesome thing that could have happened this weekend but didn't was Jay getting a hit instead of striking out earlier with 2nd and 3rd).
#10 - Any of the dozen or so stunning plays that Baez made all damn weekend, compelling me to start thinking up some historical trash talk ("Ozzie Who, motherfuckers?")



Fun fact: Tommy Pham is 29 fucking years old. He's not young at all. He's just a career minor leaguer who finally figured it out just in time to flash in the pan before his decline phase.

I heard that a lot from Cardinals fans lately. "Next year we'll be a younger team etc etc". 5 of their likely starters next year (Molina, Fowler, Gyorko, Pham, Carpenter) will be at least 29 or older. Guys like Grichuk, Piscotty, and Wong are no longer young prospects, they're three or more years in and decidedly average. Paul DeJong was a non prospect for a reason. He's struck out 115 times and only walked 17 times (one of which we know from experience WASN'T A FUCKING WALK), after the requisite Cardinals Rando Insanely Hot Streak he's got a .666 OPS over the last month. He'll struggle in year two just like Diaz, Grichuk, Piscotty and every other mediocre chud they had who benefitted from a bunch of fastballs and BABIP luck. None of their "young" guys are anything but role players.

TL;DR: they're going to keep winning just enough games to avoid a protected pick while missing the playoffs for another year or two before rebuilding too late to really cash in any of their chips and it's going to be fucking great.

I thought the Pham thing was in reference to Pat Hughes continuously calling him "Young Tommy Pham".

ah fair enough. Reminds me of when I'd get annoyed with fans excusing Theriot brain farts or baserunning gaffes because of his "youth" when he was a 27 year old rookie in 2007.

I also enjoyed that the Cardinals apparently let their best hitter languish in AAA for part of the season so Matheny could try Fat Adams in LF.

Theriot completed his rookie eligibility in 2006.  When he was 26!
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 12:42:39 PM

Also, SKO is right--I should have made the "bottom of the 6th" on Friday one whole choice.  I couldn't think of anything besides the botched force at home that particularly stood out (other than the near-botched baserunning by the Cubs at the beginning which could've torpedoed the inning but instead sort of jump-started it), but for a "death by a thousand cuts" inning, that's up there.

It was a true Cody's Inning.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 18, 2017, 08:34:37 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 18, 2017, 12:42:39 PM

Also, SKO is right--I should have made the "bottom of the 6th" on Friday one whole choice.  I couldn't think of anything besides the botched force at home that particularly stood out (other than the near-botched baserunning by the Cubs at the beginning which could've torpedoed the inning but instead sort of jump-started it), but for a "death by a thousand cuts" inning, that's up there.

It was a true Cody's Inning.

Yup.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 19, 2017, 02:16:15 PM
Well that was easily the best series I've attended since the 2016 NLCS games in L.A.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 19, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I just really love how many of them honestly believed last year was a fluke, the Cubs would go right back to irrelevance, the Cardinals were somehow the team on the rise. Their entire worldview has been shaped around taking it for granted that they'd always be better than the Cubs and they are just really trying hard to fight the evidence in front of their own eyes. It's never going to be what it was, people. This division will never be your playground again.


This (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-little-things-add-up-to-third-place-for-cardinals/article_6c532a93-bcb5-5016-b525-a47c719c7b16.html) was enjoyable. Because why wouldn't a guy with 32HR and an OPS over .900 want to take one base when he could get four?

(I admit it though, "Notorious HBP" is excellent.)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 19, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 19, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I just really love how many of them honestly believed last year was a fluke, the Cubs would go right back to irrelevance, the Cardinals were somehow the team on the rise. Their entire worldview has been shaped around taking it for granted that they'd always be better than the Cubs and they are just really trying hard to fight the evidence in front of their own eyes. It's never going to be what it was, people. This division will never be your playground again.


This (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-little-things-add-up-to-third-place-for-cardinals/article_6c532a93-bcb5-5016-b525-a47c719c7b16.html) was enjoyable. Because why wouldn't a guy with 32HR and an OPS over .900 want to take one base when he could get four?

(I admit it though, "Notorious HBP" is excellent.)

Leaning into pitches is just not the Cardinal Way.  (https://bustedcoverage.com/2016/05/25/yadier-molina-sticks-out-elbow-jake-arrieta-hit-by-pitch/)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on September 20, 2017, 02:04:43 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 19, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I just really love how many of them honestly believed last year was a fluke, the Cubs would go right back to irrelevance, the Cardinals were somehow the team on the rise. Their entire worldview has been shaped around taking it for granted that they'd always be better than the Cubs and they are just really trying hard to fight the evidence in front of their own eyes. It's never going to be what it was, people. This division will never be your playground again.


This (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-little-things-add-up-to-third-place-for-cardinals/article_6c532a93-bcb5-5016-b525-a47c719c7b16.html) was enjoyable. Because why wouldn't a guy with 32HR and an OPS over .900 want to take one base when he could get four?

(I admit it though, "Notorious HBP" is excellent.)

Actually, purely mathematically speaking, a guy that has a slugging percentage of less than 1.000 should absolutely want to take a HBP if it's on offer.  *pushes glasses up nose*
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 20, 2017, 08:08:25 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 20, 2017, 02:04:43 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 19, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I just really love how many of them honestly believed last year was a fluke, the Cubs would go right back to irrelevance, the Cardinals were somehow the team on the rise. Their entire worldview has been shaped around taking it for granted that they'd always be better than the Cubs and they are just really trying hard to fight the evidence in front of their own eyes. It's never going to be what it was, people. This division will never be your playground again.


This (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-little-things-add-up-to-third-place-for-cardinals/article_6c532a93-bcb5-5016-b525-a47c719c7b16.html) was enjoyable. Because why wouldn't a guy with 32HR and an OPS over .900 want to take one base when he could get four?

(I admit it though, "Notorious HBP" is excellent.)

Actually, purely mathematically speaking, a guy that has a slugging percentage of less than 1.000 should absolutely want to take a HBP if it's on offer.  *pushes glasses up nose*

Wouldn't that be OPS? Because, you'd also want to take the HBP if your OBP was under 1.000.  So, the only way an HBP would be a bad outcome is if the average chance you got on base plus the average base you acheived was less than 1.  RIGHT?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on September 20, 2017, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 20, 2017, 08:08:25 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 20, 2017, 02:04:43 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 19, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I just really love how many of them honestly believed last year was a fluke, the Cubs would go right back to irrelevance, the Cardinals were somehow the team on the rise. Their entire worldview has been shaped around taking it for granted that they'd always be better than the Cubs and they are just really trying hard to fight the evidence in front of their own eyes. It's never going to be what it was, people. This division will never be your playground again.


This (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-little-things-add-up-to-third-place-for-cardinals/article_6c532a93-bcb5-5016-b525-a47c719c7b16.html) was enjoyable. Because why wouldn't a guy with 32HR and an OPS over .900 want to take one base when he could get four?

(I admit it though, "Notorious HBP" is excellent.)

Actually, purely mathematically speaking, a guy that has a slugging percentage of less than 1.000 should absolutely want to take a HBP if it's on offer.  *pushes glasses up nose*

Wouldn't that be OPS? Because, you'd also want to take the HBP if your OBP was under 1.000.  So, the only way an HBP would be a bad outcome is if the average chance you got on base plus the average base you acheived was less than 1.  RIGHT?
1968.  The Dodgers' Don Drysdale had a streak of 58 scoreless innings when the Giants' Dick Dietz came to the plate in the 9th inning with one out and the bases loaded.  Drysdale hit him in the arm with a pitch, but the umpire ruled that Dietz had made no effort to avoid the pitch, called it a ball, continuing the at bat.  Dietz then hit an easy fly ball too short to allow the runner on third to score and the next batter made an out.  The streak continued. 
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 20, 2017, 02:41:48 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 20, 2017, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 20, 2017, 08:08:25 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 20, 2017, 02:04:43 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 19, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I just really love how many of them honestly believed last year was a fluke, the Cubs would go right back to irrelevance, the Cardinals were somehow the team on the rise. Their entire worldview has been shaped around taking it for granted that they'd always be better than the Cubs and they are just really trying hard to fight the evidence in front of their own eyes. It's never going to be what it was, people. This division will never be your playground again.


This (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-little-things-add-up-to-third-place-for-cardinals/article_6c532a93-bcb5-5016-b525-a47c719c7b16.html) was enjoyable. Because why wouldn't a guy with 32HR and an OPS over .900 want to take one base when he could get four?

(I admit it though, "Notorious HBP" is excellent.)

Actually, purely mathematically speaking, a guy that has a slugging percentage of less than 1.000 should absolutely want to take a HBP if it's on offer.  *pushes glasses up nose*

Wouldn't that be OPS? Because, you'd also want to take the HBP if your OBP was under 1.000.  So, the only way an HBP would be a bad outcome is if the average chance you got on base plus the average base you acheived was less than 1.  RIGHT?
1968.  The Dodgers' Don Drysdale had a streak of 58 scoreless innings when the Giants' Dick Dietz came to the plate in the 9th inning with one out and the bases loaded.  Drysdale hit him in the arm with a pitch, but the umpire ruled that Dietz had made no effort to avoid the pitch, called it a ball, continuing the at bat.  Dietz then hit an easy fly ball too short to allow the runner on third to score and the next batter made an out.  The streak continued. 

Nobody calls that anymore. Beege's career OPB would have been 50 points lower if they had.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on September 20, 2017, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 20, 2017, 02:41:48 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 20, 2017, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 20, 2017, 08:08:25 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 20, 2017, 02:04:43 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 19, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I just really love how many of them honestly believed last year was a fluke, the Cubs would go right back to irrelevance, the Cardinals were somehow the team on the rise. Their entire worldview has been shaped around taking it for granted that they'd always be better than the Cubs and they are just really trying hard to fight the evidence in front of their own eyes. It's never going to be what it was, people. This division will never be your playground again.


This (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-little-things-add-up-to-third-place-for-cardinals/article_6c532a93-bcb5-5016-b525-a47c719c7b16.html) was enjoyable. Because why wouldn't a guy with 32HR and an OPS over .900 want to take one base when he could get four?

(I admit it though, "Notorious HBP" is excellent.)

Actually, purely mathematically speaking, a guy that has a slugging percentage of less than 1.000 should absolutely want to take a HBP if it's on offer.  *pushes glasses up nose*

Wouldn't that be OPS? Because, you'd also want to take the HBP if your OBP was under 1.000.  So, the only way an HBP would be a bad outcome is if the average chance you got on base plus the average base you acheived was less than 1.  RIGHT?
1968.  The Dodgers' Don Drysdale had a streak of 58 scoreless innings when the Giants' Dick Dietz came to the plate in the 9th inning with one out and the bases loaded.  Drysdale hit him in the arm with a pitch, but the umpire ruled that Dietz had made no effort to avoid the pitch, called it a ball, continuing the at bat.  Dietz then hit an easy fly ball too short to allow the runner on third to score and the next batter made an out.  The streak continued. 

Nobody calls that anymore. Beege's career OPB would have been 50 points lower if they had.
I have to hand it to him  I can't understand how anyone wouldn't flinch with a 90+ mph projectile coming at him.  Except, of course, if he was wearing body armor.  Oh. Wait.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 21, 2017, 07:47:35 AM
I don't understand bitching about Rizzo HBP anyway. His stance is perfectly legal. The reason most guys don't stand that close is they don't want to get hit. If Anthony is willing to take his lumps, fine. It's not like he's not aware that one of those could someday break a forearm or wrist.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on September 21, 2017, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2017, 07:47:35 AM
I don't understand bitching about Rizzo HBP anyway. His stance is perfectly legal. The reason most guys don't stand that close is they don't want to get hit. If Anthony is willing to take his lumps, fine. It's not like he's not aware that one of those could someday break a forearm or wrist.

I've said this before, but in the interests of encouraging a little self-awareness around these parts it bears repeating: I love Tony Ballgame like my own and have absolutely no problem with how he plays the game.  Nonetheless, if he were a Tard, his standing on top of the plate would bug the shit out of me.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 21, 2017, 02:01:31 PM
Quote from: Tonker on September 21, 2017, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2017, 07:47:35 AM
I don't understand bitching about Rizzo HBP anyway. His stance is perfectly legal. The reason most guys don't stand that close is they don't want to get hit. If Anthony is willing to take his lumps, fine. It's not like he's not aware that one of those could someday break a forearm or wrist.

I've said this before, but in the interests of encouraging a little self-awareness around these parts it bears repeating: I love Tony Ballgame like my own and have absolutely no problem with how he plays the game.  Nonetheless, if he were a Tard, his standing on top of the plate would bug the shit out of me.

It wouldn't bother me. I mean Starling Marte gets hit all of the time because of his stance and it's never bugged me. If you're willing to take that risk of injury and your stance is legal, fine. Unwritten rules are dumb.

Also the rule is that you must attempt to avoid getting hit by the ball. Tony usually makes the attempt to get away and he does not lean into pitches, as far as I've noticed. Unlike Molina sticking his elbow out.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 21, 2017, 04:03:01 PM
Here's the thing...Since Cardinals baseball is "the right way" (aka traditional thinking), wouldn't it go to figure the way to approach the Cubs is to not let Bryant or Rizzo beat you? So by Rizzo getting hit by a pitch, which is tantamount to an intentional walk, he's actually doing the Cardinals a favor.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: PenFoe on September 21, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 21, 2017, 04:03:01 PM
Here's the thing...Since Cardinals baseball is "the right way" (aka traditional thinking), wouldn't it go to figure the way to approach the Cubs is to not let Bryant or Rizzo beat you? So by Rizzo getting hit by a pitch, which is tantamount to an intentional walk, he's actually doing the Cardinals a favor.

You'll always lose when you try to rationalize irrational behavior.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 26, 2017, 08:50:50 AM
Cardinals on the Cubs win last night.
(http://reallifestl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/world-series-1024x589.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Brownie on September 26, 2017, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 26, 2017, 08:50:50 AM
Cardinals on the Cubs win last night.
(http://reallifestl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/world-series-1024x589.jpg)

They were so impressed with the Cubs, they awarded them the 2011 World Series title? Awesome.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 26, 2017, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 26, 2017, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 26, 2017, 08:50:50 AM
Cardinals on the Cubs win last night.
(http://reallifestl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/world-series-1024x589.jpg)

They were so impressed with the Cubs, they awarded them the 2011 World Series title? Awesome.

God damn that World Series pissed me off.  Darren Oliver and Nelson Cruz can go eat a bag of horseshit.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 26, 2017, 04:37:36 PM

God damn that World Series pissed me off.  Darren Oliver and Nelson Cruz can go eat a bag of horseshit.

I, for one, am shocked that anything could piss you off.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 26, 2017, 04:49:18 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 26, 2017, 04:37:36 PM

God damn that World Series pissed me off.  Darren Oliver and Nelson Cruz can go eat a bag of horseshit.

I, for one, am shocked that anything could piss you off.

Seriously, Nelson Fucking Cruz decides to go to the wall on the game-tying hit by Freese with Berkman on first base, whereas by playing it off the wall he'd have either held Fat Elvis to third or gunned that fat prick out at home.  But what bothers me is that after opting against the smart play, that motherfucker still alligator-armed the ball.  It's the final out of the World Series--if you're electing against the prudent play in order to end the game, and the series, and the season, then don't make a half-assed effort on the ball--catch the fucking thing, asshole.

I blame Chuck for triggering me by posting that pic (which I'll admit I hadn't looked at closely enough to discern that it was from the 2011 ill-gotten World Series until TJ pointed it out)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 26, 2017, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 26, 2017, 04:49:18 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 26, 2017, 04:37:36 PM

God damn that World Series pissed me off.  Darren Oliver and Nelson Cruz can go eat a bag of horseshit.

I, for one, am shocked that anything could piss you off.

Seriously, Nelson Fucking Cruz decides to go to the wall on the game-tying hit by Freese with Berkman on first base, whereas by playing it off the wall he'd have either held Fat Elvis to third or gunned that fat prick out at home.  But what bothers me is that after opting against the smart play, that motherfucker still alligator-armed the ball.  It's the final out of the World Series--if you're electing against the prudent play in order to end the game, and the series, and the season, then don't make a half-assed effort on the ball--catch the fucking thing, asshole.

I blame Chuck for triggering me by posting that pic (which I'll admit I hadn't looked at closely enough to discern that it was from the 2011 ill-gotten World Series until TJ pointed it out)

I was just looking for a fireworks pic. Pretty sure that scoreboard is photoshopped.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 27, 2017, 08:10:49 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 26, 2017, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 26, 2017, 04:49:18 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 26, 2017, 04:37:36 PM

God damn that World Series pissed me off.  Darren Oliver and Nelson Cruz can go eat a bag of horseshit.

I, for one, am shocked that anything could piss you off.

Seriously, Nelson Fucking Cruz decides to go to the wall on the game-tying hit by Freese with Berkman on first base, whereas by playing it off the wall he'd have either held Fat Elvis to third or gunned that fat prick out at home.  But what bothers me is that after opting against the smart play, that motherfucker still alligator-armed the ball.  It's the final out of the World Series--if you're electing against the prudent play in order to end the game, and the series, and the season, then don't make a half-assed effort on the ball--catch the fucking thing, asshole.

I blame Chuck for triggering me by posting that pic (which I'll admit I hadn't looked at closely enough to discern that it was from the 2011 ill-gotten World Series until TJ pointed it out)

I was just looking for a fireworks pic. Pretty sure that scoreboard is photoshopped.

If Morph were still alive, he could probably improve it.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on September 27, 2017, 08:49:20 AM
The Cardinals are fighting for their lives, while the Cubs really don't have any urgency (I mean, I know they want to wrap this up but they only need to win 1 game and still have 5 cracks to do so, 3 against Cincinnati).  The Cardinals roll out their ace, who can't throw strikes with a lead and get out of the 5th inning.  Even still, they have an 8-3 lead in the 8th and the Cubs yawn, shrug their shoulders, and come within a run of tying it and at least necessitate St. Louis bringing their closer in during this penultimate inning.  Said closer ends up throwing 31 pitches on the evening, which will basically leave him unavailable for tonight.  I'm not sure how to articulate my point here, other than to say it sadistically pleases me to see a desperate Cardinals team--with most everything working in their favor last night--scrap and sweat and stress and hang on to win a game over a largely diincentivized Cubs team just to live another day.

Now it's time for the Cubs to put these assholes out their misery today and tomorrow.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 27, 2017, 09:03:01 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 27, 2017, 08:49:20 AM
The Cardinals are fighting for their lives, while the Cubs really don't have any urgency (I mean, I know they want to wrap this up but they only need to win 1 game and still have 5 cracks to do so, 3 against Cincinnati).  The Cardinals roll out their ace, who can't throw strikes with a lead and get out of the 5th inning.  Even still, they have an 8-3 lead in the 8th and the Cubs yawn, shrug their shoulders, and come within a run of tying it and at least necessitate St. Louis bringing their closer in during this penultimate inning.  Said closer ends up throwing 31 pitches on the evening, which will basically leave him unavailable for tonight.  I'm not sure how to articulate my point here, other than to say it sadistically pleases me to see a desperate Cardinals team--with most everything working in their favor last night--scrap and sweat and stress and hang on to win a game over a largely diincentivized Cubs team just to live another day.

Now it's time for the Cubs to put these assholes out their misery today and tomorrow.

And the Cubs put out a lineup that was borderline "day after clinching." They weren't even trying last night. If Russell or Baez is playing short last night, it's 1-0 after the first, not 3-0.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 27, 2017, 09:04:48 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 27, 2017, 08:49:20 AM
The Cardinals are fighting for their lives, while the Cubs really don't have any urgency (I mean, I know they want to wrap this up but they only need to 1 game and still have 5 cracks to do so, 3 against Cincinnati).  The Cardinals roll out their ace, who can't throw strikes with a lead and get out of the 5th inning.  Even still, they have an 8-3 lead in the 8th and the Cubs yawn, shrug their shoulders, and come within a run of tying it and at least necessitate St. Louis bringing their closer in during this penultimate inning.  Said closer ends up throwing 31 pitches on the evening, which will basically leave him unavailable for tonight.  I'm not sure how to articulate my point here, other than to say it sadistically pleases me to see a desperate Cardinals team--with most everything working in their favor last night--scrap and sweat and stress and hang on to win a game over a largely diincentivized Cubs team just to live another day.

Now it's time for the Cubs to put these assholes out their misery today and tomorrow.

The Cardinals have a legitimately good rotation. They have the 7th best ERA in baseball, actually better than the Cubs (though the Cubs have been better in the second half). The Cubs destroy all of them, regardless.

Career ERA for each Cardinals starter followed by their career era vs Cubs:

Martinez: 3.42, 4.53
Wacha: 3.80, 6.32
Lynn: 3.39, 4.18
Wainwright: 3.29, 4.08 (which has jumped significantly the last 3 years as he used to dominate them regularly before then)
Weaver: 4.21, 12.38

Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 27, 2017, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 27, 2017, 09:04:48 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on September 27, 2017, 08:49:20 AM
The Cardinals are fighting for their lives, while the Cubs really don't have any urgency (I mean, I know they want to wrap this up but they only need to 1 game and still have 5 cracks to do so, 3 against Cincinnati).  The Cardinals roll out their ace, who can't throw strikes with a lead and get out of the 5th inning.  Even still, they have an 8-3 lead in the 8th and the Cubs yawn, shrug their shoulders, and come within a run of tying it and at least necessitate St. Louis bringing their closer in during this penultimate inning.  Said closer ends up throwing 31 pitches on the evening, which will basically leave him unavailable for tonight.  I'm not sure how to articulate my point here, other than to say it sadistically pleases me to see a desperate Cardinals team--with most everything working in their favor last night--scrap and sweat and stress and hang on to win a game over a largely diincentivized Cubs team just to live another day.

Now it's time for the Cubs to put these assholes out their misery today and tomorrow.

The Cardinals have a legitimately good rotation. They have the 7th best ERA in baseball, actually better than the Cubs (though the Cubs have been better in the second half). The Cubs destroy all of them, regardless.

Career ERA for each Cardinals starter followed by their career era vs Cubs:

Martinez: 3.42, 4.53
Wacha: 3.80, 6.32
Lynn: 3.39, 4.18
Wainwright: 3.29, 4.08 (which has jumped significantly the last 3 years as he used to dominate them regularly before then)
Weaver: 4.21, 12.38



This post needs a NSFW tag.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on September 27, 2017, 09:03:50 PM
As far as the Cubs-Cards rivalry goes, this has to be second only to beating them in the NLDS in 2015.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:25:59 PM
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/1/1/6/154439116/101315_nlds_schwarber_homerun_statcast_medres_bq4qks7r.gif)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: WTB...A RING FFS!! on September 27, 2017, 10:29:31 PM
Ahhh, the tears from the mouthbreathers on Viva el Birdos couldn't be more delicious. A WHOLE 64 posts on their game thread tonight. Plenty of lamenting on how their team has just basically fallen off the face of the earth the last couple of years. Keep it coming hickerbillies.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 28, 2017, 02:04:52 AM
Tommy Pham isn't mad, he's actually laughing.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 28, 2017, 09:47:43 PM
Eliminated by the Iowa Cubs!!!! Hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Armchair_QB on September 28, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 28, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 29, 2017, 07:00:11 AM
I loved Tseng just owning them the last few innings, as if the Cubs were telling them, "This shit isn't ending anytime soon."
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on September 29, 2017, 08:20:05 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 28, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2017, 08:20:05 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 28, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.

Like those Old Milwaukee ads used to say, "it doesn't get any better than this."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html)
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: morpheus on September 29, 2017, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2017, 08:20:05 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 28, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.

Like those Old Milwaukee ads used to say, "it doesn't get any better than this."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html)

10/10 would read again
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on September 29, 2017, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 29, 2017, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2017, 08:20:05 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 28, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.

Like those Old Milwaukee ads used to say, "it doesn't get any better than this."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html)

10/10 would read again
Let me hear a "Boo-Hoo".
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 10, 2017, 08:42:08 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2017, 08:20:05 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 28, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.

Like those Old Milwaukee ads used to say, "it doesn't get any better than this."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html)

You sure (https://sports.yahoo.com/cardinals-veterans-reportedly-blame-new-players-season-failures-152344258.html)?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 10, 2017, 08:52:49 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 10, 2017, 08:42:08 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 29, 2017, 08:20:05 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on September 29, 2017, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 28, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 28, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 28, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 28, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 28, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 28, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 27, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 27, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Shooter on September 27, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 26, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on September 18, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on September 17, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 17, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on September 15, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 15, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Eat it, fuckheads.

Like those Old Milwaukee ads used to say, "it doesn't get any better than this."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-cards-must-recognize-an-uncomfortable-truth-before-threatening-cubs/article_94f84542-ea0a-580e-b9dc-4f1cbc40532c.html)

You sure (https://sports.yahoo.com/cardinals-veterans-reportedly-blame-new-players-season-failures-152344258.html)?

Lol, before the year the story was the Fun Happy Dexter was there to loosen the Cardinals clubhouse up and help them win again after being too uptight cost them in 2016. Now that it didn't work all of the knives are in his back for daring to smile and have fun.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on October 10, 2017, 08:55:33 AM
DPD, but I wonder if Adam Wainwright's 4.81 ERA over the last two seasons is The Cardinal Way
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: D. Doluntap on October 10, 2017, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 10, 2017, 08:55:33 AM
DPD, but I wonder if Adam Wainwright's 4.81 ERA over the last two seasons is The Cardinal Way

He's just been pitching to the score.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Shooter on October 10, 2017, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 10, 2017, 08:55:33 AM
DPD, but I wonder if Adam Wainwright's 4.81 ERA over the last two seasons is The Cardinal Way

Only if he drives drunk into a freeway overpass in the off-season.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 15, 2017, 08:24:08 AM
Giancarlo Stanton has reportedly said he wants no part of the Cardinals or Red Sox (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-hot-stove-stanton-reportedly-wont-waive-no-trade-clause-for-cardinals-red-sox/).

I don't know if they'll ever be able to sign a decent black player at this point.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on January 19, 2018, 10:09:59 PM
The Cardinals are so good, they don't even need two Deserved ROY/MVPs like Grichuk and Pisscotty.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 07, 2018, 10:08:49 AM
Actually, baseball is bad. I've been wrong this whole time.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 13, 2018, 08:18:42 PM
TPD because you guys are a bunch of Cardinals lovers.  Clayton Richard striking out ten Cardinals over 8 innings: inject it straight into my veins.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Oleg on May 15, 2018, 01:31:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 13, 2018, 08:18:42 PM
TPD because you guys are a bunch of Cardinals lovers.  Clayton Richard striking out ten Cardinals over 8 innings: inject it straight into my veins.

Thanks, Jim.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: The Big Cheese on June 03, 2018, 04:12:11 PM
Tuned in today just in time to hear Wacha lose his inexplicable no-no in the 9th.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 03, 2018, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on June 03, 2018, 04:12:11 PM
Tuned in today just in time to hear Wacha lose his inexplicable no-no in the 9th.

Wacha Flocka Flamed Out
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 08:20:33 AM

How are the Cardinals' playoff odds looking these days?
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 04, 2018, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 08:20:33 AM

How are the Cardinals' playoff odds looking these days?

About a 45% chance of making the postseason per baseball prospectus. Cubs at 83% to make the playoffs, 52.1% to win the division.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 08:20:33 AM

How are the Cardinals' playoff odds looking these days?

About a 45% chance of making the postseason per baseball prospectus. Cubs at 83% to make the playoffs, 52.1% to win the division.

So in other words, maybe we shouldn't sweat such things until either a) Labor Day or b) the Cubs find themselves 10 games back.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 04, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 08:20:33 AM

How are the Cardinals' playoff odds looking these days?

About a 45% chance of making the postseason per baseball prospectus. Cubs at 83% to make the playoffs, 52.1% to win the division.

So in other words, maybe we shouldn't sweat such things until either a) Labor Day or b) the Cubs find themselves 10 games back.

you'd think, but no.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 03:01:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 08:20:33 AM

How are the Cardinals' playoff odds looking these days?

About a 45% chance of making the postseason per baseball prospectus. Cubs at 83% to make the playoffs, 52.1% to win the division.

So in other words, maybe we shouldn't sweat such things until either a) Labor Day or b) the Cubs find themselves 10 games back.

you'd think, but no.

Then how about this...

The Cubs are tied with Milwaukee in the All-Important Loss Column, with one elite pitcher (Darvish) currently on his second stint on the DL, another (Hendricks - yes, a guy who won the ERA title a year and a half ago is elite) is approaching his career ERA and is historically a better second half pitcher (Career second half ERA is .70 below his first half), and one usually-elite hitter (Rizzo) finally hitting league average offensively.

They're also 14-8 since the weekend debacle in St. Louis.

My wish for you, my son, is that everything you sweat over is as under control as this shit is.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: SKO on June 04, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 03:01:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 08:20:33 AM

How are the Cardinals' playoff odds looking these days?

About a 45% chance of making the postseason per baseball prospectus. Cubs at 83% to make the playoffs, 52.1% to win the division.

So in other words, maybe we shouldn't sweat such things until either a) Labor Day or b) the Cubs find themselves 10 games back.

you'd think, but no.

Then how about this...

The Cubs are tied with Milwaukee in the All-Important Loss Column, with one elite pitcher (Darvish) currently on his second stint on the DL, another (Hendricks - yes, a guy who won the ERA title a year and a half ago is elite) is approaching his career ERA and is historically a better second half pitcher (Career second half ERA is .70 below his first half), and one usually-elite hitter (Rizzo) finally hitting league average offensively.

They're also 14-8 since the weekend debacle in St. Louis.

My wish for you, my son, is that everything you sweat over is as under control as this shit is.

Look once they are comfortably in first I will calm down unless they actually threaten to drop out of first at some point but I swear the second they clinch that division I'll be good until the playoffs.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 03:38:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 03:01:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 04, 2018, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 04, 2018, 08:20:33 AM

How are the Cardinals' playoff odds looking these days?

About a 45% chance of making the postseason per baseball prospectus. Cubs at 83% to make the playoffs, 52.1% to win the division.

So in other words, maybe we shouldn't sweat such things until either a) Labor Day or b) the Cubs find themselves 10 games back.

you'd think, but no.

Then how about this...

The Cubs are tied with Milwaukee in the All-Important Loss Column, with one elite pitcher (Darvish) currently on his second stint on the DL, another (Hendricks - yes, a guy who won the ERA title a year and a half ago is elite) is approaching his career ERA and is historically a better second half pitcher (Career second half ERA is .70 below his first half), and one usually-elite hitter (Rizzo) finally hitting league average offensively.

They're also 14-8 since the weekend debacle in St. Louis.

My wish for you, my son, is that everything you sweat over is as under control as this shit is.

Look once they are comfortably in first I will calm down unless they actually threaten to drop out of first at some point but I swear the second they clinch that division I'll be good until the playoffs losing my shit about how much better every other team in the postseason is.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Yeti on July 14, 2018, 10:30:20 PM
Bittersweet moment
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 15, 2018, 10:45:23 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 14, 2018, 10:30:20 PM
Bittersweet moment

He should have had a lifetime contract. Was doing a great job keeping the Cardinals out of the Cubs' way.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Canadouche on July 15, 2018, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 15, 2018, 10:45:23 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 14, 2018, 10:30:20 PM
Bittersweet moment

He should have had a lifetime contract. Was doing a great job keeping the Cardinals out of the Cubs' way.

It looks like St. Louis wants to replace their uptight, old-school, no-fun ex catcher of a manager with someone totally different. Tough pill to swallow.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Bort on July 15, 2018, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on July 15, 2018, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 15, 2018, 10:45:23 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 14, 2018, 10:30:20 PM
Bittersweet moment

He should have had a lifetime contract. Was doing a great job keeping the Cardinals out of the Cubs' way.

It looks like St. Louis wants to replace their uptight, old-school, no-fun ex catcher of a manager with someone totally different. Tough pill to swallow.

On the plus side, it's going to eat their fan base alive to know they're following the Cubs' lead.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 18, 2018, 02:47:00 PM
Don't give up hope yet (https://nypost.com/2018/07/15/some-intriguing-early-options-for-next-cardinals-manager/).
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Tonker on July 18, 2018, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 18, 2018, 02:47:00 PM
Don't give up hope yet (https://nypost.com/2018/07/15/some-intriguing-early-options-for-next-cardinals-manager/).

OH GOD PLEASE LET IT BE DUSTY.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 31, 2018, 04:57:08 PM
Guess they won't have Tommy Pham to kick around anymore.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 16, 2019, 02:00:47 AM
That series was absolutely fantastic. Thank you, Nationals.
Title: Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
Post by: CBStew on October 16, 2019, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 16, 2019, 02:00:47 AM
That series was absolutely fantastic. Thank you, Nationals.
Now we can have a relaxing Winter.