The discussion over The Dark Knight Rises has me thinking we should just discuss comic book and superhero movies in general in one thread.
As I see it, there are two main eras of superhero films: Pre-Christopher Nolan and the Christopher Nolan Era, where the emphasis on realism lent respectability back to both the DC franchises and the new Marvel Universe.
In the pre-Nolan Era there were definitely some good films like Superman 1&2, X-Men 2, and Spiderman 2, and a couple of decent ones like X-Men and the original Burton Batman. Then there were mostly the clunkers. Some just weird like Batman Returns and others absolutely terrible, like the Fantastic Four Films, X-Men 3 and Spiderman 3, and, worst of all, the Schumacher Batman films.
Not to say that all of the new era movies are good. Superman Returns was a very visually impressive and even more boring film. The second Hulk still kinda sucked.
All that said, here's my top ten
1. The Dark Knight Rises
2. The Dark Knight
3. Iron Man
4. Batman Begins
5. Captain America
6. Avengers
7. Superman
8. Superman II
9. Spiderman II
10. X-Men II
I should add that I limited this to live action films, as Mask of the Phantasm would otherwise make the list. I still haven't seen X-Men First Class, which got good reviews, just because I was so embittered over the awfulness of X3 after the brilliance of X2 that I can't quite forgive the franchise.
You may all hurl your nerd insults now.
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You should see First Class. I finally watched it and it was great.
Superman sucks. Nothing will ever change that.
I liked Flesh Gordon.
This is the greatest thread evar.
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
You should see First Class. I finally watched it and it was great.
Superman sucks. Nothing will ever change that.
This explains so much about you.
Quote from: Canadouche on July 27, 2012, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
You should see First Class. I finally watched it and it was great.
Superman sucks. Nothing will ever change that.
This explains so much about you.
Yes, it explains that Superman is lame.
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
You should see First Class. I finally watched it and it was great.
Superman sucks. Nothing will ever change that.
Grant Morrison begs to differ.
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2012, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
You should see First Class. I finally watched it and it was great.
Superman sucks. Nothing will ever change that.
Grant Morrison begs to differ.
With what
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2012, 11:42:33 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2012, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 27, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
You should see First Class. I finally watched it and it was great.
Superman sucks. Nothing will ever change that.
Grant Morrison begs to differ.
With what
I'm with Slaky, for the most part. I've never really given two shits about Secular Jesus. That said, the first two films were well made and most of the best comic book films since then owe at least something to Richard Donner for his willingness to legitimize superhero films, and I acknowledge that. Superman Returns, however, was incredibly boring and, while the trailer looks good and Christopher Nolan is at least somewhat involved, I'm skeptical of Man of Steel because Superman is lame and Zack Snyder is kind of a penis.
Superman movies tend to suck, because they leave out the batshit crazy stuff for just bullshit crazy stuff.
Anyone who writes Superman as a secular Christ (or Moses) figure is a hack, that misses the point.
No Watchmen on your list, SKO? It's gotta be top 5 for the blue schwantz alone.
Quote from: R-V on July 27, 2012, 12:53:33 PM
No Watchmen on your list, SKO? It's gotta be top 5 for the blue schwantz alone.
I was disappointed with the film. I knew I would be. I love the graphic novel too much, and Zack Snyder is kind of a penis.
Quote from: SKO on July 27, 2012, 01:32:02 PM
and Zack Snyder is kind of a gently wafting, neon-blue CGI penis
ILM-caliber dong physics'd
This thread needs more Liefeld.
Quote from: CT III on July 27, 2012, 02:01:58 PM
This thread needs more Liefeld.
Okay...
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/05/12/brett-ratner-youngblood-movie-x-men/
QuoteLast August, Brett Ratner told us that his live-action adaptation of "Youngblood" was still in the script phase. Nine months later, that's where the project still stands.
"I'm working on the script," the director told MTV News. "'Youngblood will be something I do in the future, whether it's next year or whatever."
At the moment, Ratner is pushing forward with his next directorial gig, "Tower Heist," for which he's hoping to lock down Ben Stiller, and developing 'Youngblood' with an eye toward turning it into an enduring big screen franchise.
"I'm never going to do another 'X-Men' obviously, and I'm not doing any more with 'Rush Hour,'" he explained. "But to do a new franchise, I don't care what the budget is — even if it was small — but it would be exciting because then I could start my own franchise. I could do what Bryan [Singer] did with 'X-Men.'"
"I've been in a lot of things – 'God of War,' which didn't work out, 'Conan the Barbarian,' which didn't work out," Ratner continued. "So I'm interested in comic books. I grew up reading comic books. Even though all the rumors said, 'Oh, Brett didn't read comics,' but I read 'Batman' and 'Superman.' 'Superman' was my favorite comic, which is why I was first attached to make 'Superman.' 'Youngblood,' obviously, I discovered later in life and I just fell in love with it."
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 27, 2012, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: CT III on July 27, 2012, 02:01:58 PM
This thread needs more Liefeld.
Okay...
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/05/12/brett-ratner-youngblood-movie-x-men/
QuoteLast August, Brett Ratner told us that his live-action adaptation of "Youngblood" was still in the script phase. Nine months later, that's where the project still stands.
"I'm working on the script," the director told MTV News. "'Youngblood will be something I do in the future, whether it's next year or whatever."
At the moment, Ratner is pushing forward with his next directorial gig, "Tower Heist," for which he's hoping to lock down Ben Stiller, and developing 'Youngblood' with an eye toward turning it into an enduring big screen franchise.
"I'm never going to do another 'X-Men' obviously, and I'm not doing any more with 'Rush Hour,'" he explained. "But to do a new franchise, I don't care what the budget is — even if it was small — but it would be exciting because then I could start my own franchise. I could do what Bryan [Singer] did with 'X-Men.'"
"I've been in a lot of things – 'God of War,' which didn't work out, 'Conan the Barbarian,' which didn't work out," Ratner continued. "So I'm interested in comic books. I grew up reading comic books. Even though all the rumors said, 'Oh, Brett didn't read comics,' but I read 'Batman' and 'Superman.' 'Superman' was my favorite comic, which is why I was first attached to make 'Superman.' 'Youngblood,' obviously, I discovered later in life and I just fell in love with it."
I think he means it was the only franchise he could purchase the rights to for under a dollar fiddy.
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2012, 12:01:03 PM
Anyone who writes Superman as a secular Christ (or Moses) figure is a hack, that misses the point.
I.e., "fuck the Golden Age"?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 27, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 27, 2012, 12:01:03 PM
Anyone who writes Superman as a secular Christ (or Moses) figure is a hack, that misses the point.
I.e., "fuck the Golden Age"?
I.e., that theory is bullshit unless you stretch the story to fit a preconceived thesis. No one in the golden age intentionally wrote that way. They were cranking out stories for a paycheck.
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/10/CA_Supermovies_10-28-2014-2.jpg)
Joy
I haven't seen this movies