Anyone else watching this show about Commie KGB bastards living in 1980s America in deep cover? It's excellent.
Agree. The old technology and methods of communication is interesting to watch.
Quote from: BH on February 20, 2013, 09:29:09 AM
Agree. The old technology and methods of communication is interesting to watch.
It is interesting to me because it echoes the paranoid suspicions that we had in a much earlier period, the '40s through the '60s. By the '80s I don't think that we felt that the KGB agents among us were murderous moles.
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Quote from: BH on February 20, 2013, 09:29:09 AM
Agree. The old technology and methods of communication is interesting to watch.
It is interesting to me because it echoes the paranoid suspicions that we had in a much earlier period, the '40s through the '60s. By the '80s I don't think that we felt that the KGB agents among us were murderous moles.
Paranoid suspicions or actual facts?
I'll let Roy Cohn decide.
Keri Russell is secksy.
Quote from: CBStew on February 20, 2013, 09:44:30 AM
Quote from: BH on February 20, 2013, 09:29:09 AM
Agree. The old technology and methods of communication is interesting to watch.
It is interesting to me because it echoes the paranoid suspicions that we had in a much earlier period, the '40s through the '60s. By the '80s I don't think that we felt that the KGB agents among us were murderous moles.
Boo. Hiss. Boo.
Quote from: CBStew on February 20, 2013, 11:52:04 AM
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Quote from: BH on February 20, 2013, 09:29:09 AM
Agree. The old technology and methods of communication is interesting to watch.
It is interesting to me because it echoes the paranoid suspicions that we had in a much earlier period, the '40s through the '60s. By the '80s I don't think that we felt that the KGB agents among us were murderous moles.
Boo. Hiss. Boo.
Stew seems awfully determined to declare that the age of Communist spies in America is over. I wonder why?
Quote from: SKO on February 20, 2013, 12:03:21 PM
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Quote from: BH on February 20, 2013, 09:29:09 AM
Agree. The old technology and methods of communication is interesting to watch.
It is interesting to me because it echoes the paranoid suspicions that we had in a much earlier period, the '40s through the '60s. By the '80s I don't think that we felt that the KGB agents among us were murderous moles.
Boo. Hiss. Boo.
Stew seems awfully determined to declare that the age of Communist spies in America is over. I wonder why?
Hissssss.
Quote from: CBStew on February 20, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 20, 2013, 12:03:21 PM
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Quote from: BH on February 20, 2013, 09:29:09 AM
Agree. The old technology and methods of communication is interesting to watch.
It is interesting to me because it echoes the paranoid suspicions that we had in a much earlier period, the '40s through the '60s. By the '80s I don't think that we felt that the KGB agents among us were murderous moles.
Boo. Hiss. Boo.
Stew seems awfully determined to declare that the age of Communist spies in America is over. I wonder why?
Hissssss.
SECRET PUMPKIN!!!
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 20, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
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Quote from: BH on February 20, 2013, 09:29:09 AM
Agree. The old technology and methods of communication is interesting to watch.
It is interesting to me because it echoes the paranoid suspicions that we had in a much earlier period, the '40s through the '60s. By the '80s I don't think that we felt that the KGB agents among us were murderous moles.
Boo. Hiss. Boo.
Stew seems awfully determined to declare that the age of Communist spies in America is over. I wonder why?
Hissssss.
SECRET PUMPKIN!!!
That whole scenerio was so stupid I couldn't take it seriously
Haven't watched last night's episode yet but hot damn the Reagan shooting episode was a good one. They're painting a great picture of how and why the Cold War dragged on so long - both sides had some solid intelligence on the other but was almost hilariously inept at analyzing that intelligence. It's laughable that one would think Haig was executing a coup but when you come from a place where they don't even tell you a leader is dead, I can see why you'd read things completely wrong.
Quote from: R-V on February 28, 2013, 09:53:05 AM
Haven't watched last night's episode yet but hot damn the Reagan shooting episode was a good one. They're painting a great picture of how and why the Cold War dragged on so long - both sides had some solid intelligence on the other but was almost hilariously inept at analyzing that intelligence. It's laughable that one would think Haig was executing a coup but when you come from a place where they don't even tell you a leader is dead, I can see why you'd read things completely wrong.
I was reminded that when Haig announced that he was in charge of the government I was completely befuddled. Did they change the Constitution without telling anyone?
Quote from: R-V on February 28, 2013, 09:53:05 AM
Haven't watched last night's episode yet but hot damn the Reagan shooting episode was a good one. They're painting a great picture of how and why the Cold War dragged on so long - both sides had some solid intelligence on the other but was almost hilariously inept at analyzing that intelligence. It's laughable that one would think Haig was executing a coup but when you come from a place where they don't even tell you a leader is dead, I can see why you'd read things completely wrong.
This show is a lot more entertaining if you believe that ISIS is somehow involved.
A very interesting plot twist. I can believe that a spy cell would intimidate their own if they suspect that the spies are turning. But if the spies retaliate don't they demonstrate that they can no longer be trusted? What now? Do they try to run? Do they become double agents? Do they become even more outlaw than they already are? (I can't imagine why they threw in the (almost) kidnapping of the kids.)
Quote from: CBStew on March 07, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
A very interesting plot twist. I can believe that a spy cell would intimidate their own if they suspect that the spies are turning. But if the spies retaliate don't they demonstrate that they can no longer be trusted? What now? Do they try to run? Do they become double agents? Do they become even more outlaw than they already are? (I can't imagine why they threw in the (almost) kidnapping of the kids.)
I think they just wanted to show kids the dangers of hitchhiking. The guy they found to play the creepy hitchhiker couldn't have played it more brilliantly. He was, in fact, quite creepy.
It will be interesting going forward, the mistrust between the 2 main characters. And what will happen to them after she beat the crap out of the older lady they report to. At some point, I'm guessing the FBI neighbor finds out about them and they start working as double agents.
Quote from: BH on March 08, 2013, 07:55:24 AM
Quote from: CBStew on March 07, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
A very interesting plot twist. I can believe that a spy cell would intimidate their own if they suspect that the spies are turning. But if the spies retaliate don't they demonstrate that they can no longer be trusted? What now? Do they try to run? Do they become double agents? Do they become even more outlaw than they already are? (I can't imagine why they threw in the (almost) kidnapping of the kids.)
I think they just wanted to show kids the dangers of hitchhiking. The guy they found to play the creepy hitchhiker couldn't have played it more brilliantly. He was, in fact, quite creepy.
It will be interesting going forward, the mistrust between the 2 main characters. And what will happen to them after she beat the crap out of the older lady they report to. At some point, I'm guessing the FBI neighbor finds out about them and they start working as double agents.
Or double secret triple agents where the FBI neighbor thinks that they're working for him, but really they're not!
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A very interesting plot twist. I can believe that a spy cell would intimidate their own if they suspect that the spies are turning. But if the spies retaliate don't they demonstrate that they can no longer be trusted? What now? Do they try to run? Do they become double agents? Do they become even more outlaw than they already are? (I can't imagine why they threw in the (almost) kidnapping of the kids.)
I think they just wanted to show kids the dangers of hitchhiking. The guy they found to play the creepy hitchhiker couldn't have played it more brilliantly. He was, in fact, quite creepy.
It will be interesting going forward, the mistrust between the 2 main characters. And what will happen to them after she beat the crap out of the older lady they report to. At some point, I'm guessing the FBI neighbor finds out about them and they start working as double agents.
Or double secret triple agents where the FBI neighbor thinks that they're working for him, but really they're not!
Or one of them is but the other isn't but believes that the other isn't and that one believes that the other is. My head hurts.
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Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 08, 2013, 10:57:00 AM
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Quote from: CBStew on March 07, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
A very interesting plot twist. I can believe that a spy cell would intimidate their own if they suspect that the spies are turning. But if the spies retaliate don't they demonstrate that they can no longer be trusted? What now? Do they try to run? Do they become double agents? Do they become even more outlaw than they already are? (I can't imagine why they threw in the (almost) kidnapping of the kids.)
I think they just wanted to show kids the dangers of hitchhiking. The guy they found to play the creepy hitchhiker couldn't have played it more brilliantly. He was, in fact, quite creepy.
It will be interesting going forward, the mistrust between the 2 main characters. And what will happen to them after she beat the crap out of the older lady they report to. At some point, I'm guessing the FBI neighbor finds out about them and they start working as double agents.
Or double secret triple agents where the FBI neighbor thinks that they're working for him, but really they're not!
Or one of them is but the other isn't but believes that the other isn't and that one believes that the other is. My head hurts.
If we can add a '78 Camaro and an orangutan named Viktor, this would be a ratings winner.
Honestly, this show is proving to be surprisingly boring.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 13, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
Honestly, this show is proving to be surprisingly boring.
Intrepid Reader: Gil Gunderson: "The Americans" on FX looks interesting.
Quote from: morpheus on March 14, 2013, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 13, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
Honestly, this show is proving to be surprisingly boring.
Intrepid Reader: Gil Gunderson: "The Americans" on FX looks interesting.
I've never watched a minute of this show. I did like the choice of "Eminence Front" for the commercials, however.
Does this involve numbers stations, or am I indifferent?
Quote from: Wheezer on March 15, 2013, 02:08:54 AM
Does this involve numbers stations, or am I indifferent?
None so far.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 13, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
Honestly, this show is proving to be surprisingly boring.
Incorrect opinion. This last episode was a bit slower but overall this has been a really good show. I guess you're just not equipped to enjoy HIGHBROW entertainment, you meatball.
<retires to office to fap to Nina>
Quote from: R-V on March 15, 2013, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 13, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
Honestly, this show is proving to be surprisingly boring.
Incorrect opinion. This last episode was a bit slower but overall this has been a really good show. I guess you're just not equipped to enjoy HIGHBROW entertainment, you meatball.
<retires to office to fap to Nina>
He doesn't even own a DVR!!!
Quote from: R-V on March 15, 2013, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 13, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
Honestly, this show is proving to be surprisingly boring.
Incorrect opinion. This last episode was a bit slower but overall this has been a really good show. I guess you're just not equipped to enjoy HIGHBROW entertainment, you meatball.
<retires to office to fap to Nina>
I've watched every episode so far. But the show hasn't really grabbed me to the point where I can't wait to see what happens next week. Which is disappointing for something with such high body and side-boob-and-nude-butt counts.
How long can they really flog the "my marriage started out fake but maybe now it's real" theme?
And how many weird Yetiphile subplots should we expect when all's said and done?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 15, 2013, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 15, 2013, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 13, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
Honestly, this show is proving to be surprisingly boring.
Incorrect opinion. This last episode was a bit slower but overall this has been a really good show. I guess you're just not equipped to enjoy HIGHBROW entertainment, you meatball.
<retires to office to fap to Nina>
I've watched every episode so far. But the show hasn't really grabbed me to the point where I can't wait to see what happens next week. Which is disappointing for something with such high body and side-boob-and-nude-butt counts.
How long can they really flog the "my marriage started out fake but maybe now it's real" theme?
And how many weird Yetiphile subplots should we expect when all's said and done?
Don't sweat it. There is no such thing as an "incorrect opinion". Dumb, maybe, but not incorrect.
IMHO Keri Russell bears a striking resemblance to one of the most beautiful women who ever lived, Lee Remick.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 15, 2013, 10:20:58 AM
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Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 13, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
Honestly, this show is proving to be surprisingly boring.
Incorrect opinion. This last episode was a bit slower but overall this has been a really good show. I guess you're just not equipped to enjoy HIGHBROW entertainment, you meatball.
<retires to office to fap to Nina>
He doesn't even own a DVR!!!
He rents?
Is this show going overboard? The bad guys feel bad when they accidently kill someone. But the "good guys" show no remorse over deliberately killing an innocent person in order to send a message?
Quote from: CBStew on April 04, 2013, 09:33:48 AM
Is this show going overboard? The bad guys feel bad when they accidently kill someone. But the "good guys" show no remorse over deliberately killing an innocent person in order to send a message?
I just hope they save their marriage. Their hearts need mending. And what about the kids?
Quote from: BH on April 05, 2013, 08:07:11 AM
Quote from: CBStew on April 04, 2013, 09:33:48 AM
Is this show going overboard? The bad guys feel bad when they accidently kill someone. But the "good guys" show no remorse over deliberately killing an innocent person in order to send a message?
I just hope they save their marriage. Their hearts need mending. And what about the kids?
Good point. Giving equal significance to the impact of the marital problems of the spies on their kids and the killings of FBI and KGB agents does smack of shark jumping.
This show is getting really stupid and drawn out. The main agent (keri russell) is supposed to be incapable of loving her husband, because she loves her country so much. But she loves 2 other KGB guys and goes against superior orders to kill a CIA head. Then she wants to reconcile with her husband, who moves on, so that storyline can keep getting dragged out. Her weird relationship with the old lady she beat the hell out of seems completely out of left field. I hope Stan kills everyone in the season finale.
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2013, 10:11:22 AM
This show is getting really stupid and drawn out. The main agent (keri russell) is supposed to be incapable of loving her husband, because she loves her country so much. But she loves 2 other KGB guys and goes against superior orders to kill a CIA head. Then she wants to reconcile with her husband, who moves on, so that storyline can keep getting dragged out. Her weird relationship with the old lady she beat the hell out of seems completely out of left field. I hope Stan kills everyone in the season finale.
Yeah, the first 5 or 6 episodes of this were the testicles, but the last few weeks have been very slow and kinda boring. Hopefully things will pick up in the finale.
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2013, 10:11:22 AM
This show is getting really stupid and drawn out. The main agent (keri russell) is supposed to be incapable of loving her husband, because she loves her country so much. But she loves 2 other KGB guys and goes against superior orders to kill a CIA head. Then she wants to reconcile with her husband, who moves on, so that storyline can keep getting dragged out. Her weird relationship with the old lady she beat the hell out of seems completely out of left field. I hope Stan kills everyone in the season finale.
I haven't watched any of this show. Does she at least get a little nekkid?
Quote from: morpheus on May 02, 2013, 08:36:58 AM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2013, 10:11:22 AM
This show is getting really stupid and drawn out. The main agent (keri russell) is supposed to be incapable of loving her husband, because she loves her country so much. But she loves 2 other KGB guys and goes against superior orders to kill a CIA head. Then she wants to reconcile with her husband, who moves on, so that storyline can keep getting dragged out. Her weird relationship with the old lady she beat the hell out of seems completely out of left field. I hope Stan kills everyone in the season finale.
I haven't watched any of this show. Does she at least get a little nekkid?
good question (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=keri+russell+nude).
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This show is getting really stupid and drawn out. The main agent (keri russell) is supposed to be incapable of loving her husband, because she loves her country so much. But she loves 2 other KGB guys and goes against superior orders to kill a CIA head. Then she wants to reconcile with her husband, who moves on, so that storyline can keep getting dragged out. Her weird relationship with the old lady she beat the hell out of seems completely out of left field. I hope Stan kills everyone in the season finale.
Yeah, the first 5 or 6 episodes of this were the testicles, but the last few weeks have been very slow and kinda boring. Hopefully things will pick up in the finale.
I stopped watching a few weeks ago. So, what, they're still dragging out the whole "our fake marriage is real, no it's fake, but wait I want it to be real, but wait I don't love you at all, but then maybe I do" thing? That sounds just like the first seven weeks.
This show is good. I like to watch it.
Quote from: R-V on March 20, 2014, 10:17:49 AM
This show is good. I like to watch it.
Thank you, Chauncy.
Quote from: R-V on March 20, 2014, 10:17:49 AM
This show is good. I like to watch it.
Keri Russell butt shots EVERYWHERE.
I too like this show, and find it nice to put my eyes on.
Why aren't you watching this show? Stop reading this post and go catch up on it, you hooplehead. Then come back here and we can rap about it.
Quote from: R-V on April 25, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
Why aren't you watching this show? Stop reading this post and go catch up on it, you hooplehead. Then come back here and we can rap about it.
I'm not watching, but I saw that Oliver North got writing credit on the last episode. What's the DEAL with THAT?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 25, 2014, 09:14:51 AM
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Why aren't you watching this show? Stop reading this post and go catch up on it, you hooplehead. Then come back here and we can rap about it.
I'm not watching, but I saw that Oliver North got writing credit on the last episode. What's the DEAL with THAT?
I also noticed that. Season's finally picking up steam. I think it's been a bit slow. It's a pretty sad show overall and I think it's working toward a turn by Phillip. I could be wrong and it's all just a tease. But they keep dropping hints that the wife is way more into the Motherland than he is.
For the record, here's the deal with that (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/arts/television/oliver-north-now-in-the-service-of-tvs-kgb.html):
QuoteWhen the producers of the FX series "The Americans," an espionage thriller set in the early 1980s, began preparing a story line about the government's covert efforts to help contra rebels in Nicaragua, they wanted to consult with someone well versed in this chapter of recent history.
So they reached out to colleagues within Fox, the parent company of FX, and were soon connected to an expert with unique firsthand knowledge: Oliver North, the former Marine Corps lieutenant colonel and National Security Council aide, and a central figure in the Iran-contra scandal.
Mr. North provided the producers of "The Americans" with so much detail and color for the April 23 episode that he was rewarded with a story credit...
...
Mr. North said "The Americans" was "very accurate" in its depiction of the increasing desperation of its K.G.B. couple and the success of what he called "Ronald Reagan's strategy for doing in the Evil Empire."
"What a great opportunity it is to showcase the man who changed the world for the good, for my kids and my grandkids," Mr. North said of Mr. Reagan.
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Why aren't you watching this show? Stop reading this post and go catch up on it, you hooplehead. Then come back here and we can rap about it.
I'm not watching, but I saw that Oliver North got writing credit on the last episode. What's the DEAL with THAT?
I also noticed that. Season's finally picking up steam. I think it's been a bit slow. It's a pretty sad show overall and I think it's working toward a turn by Phillip. I could be wrong and it's all just a tease. But they keep dropping hints that the wife is way more into the Motherland than he is.
I like that this show is slow/sad - to me it's a great character study that says, yeah spying shit is cool, but there are *actual people* who have to do that shit, and man it takes a hellacious toll on them. I think Phillip is maybe just a bit less dedicated to the cause than Elizabeth is, but not by much - he just isn't as vocal about it, and happens to also enjoy the amenities of American consumerism. I do think he's able to compartmentalize that. What he is increasingly unable to compartmentalize is how many poor innocent bastards he's had to kill this season - the busboy and computer geek earlier in the season, and now in the latest episode, the snot-nosed young soldier and the septic truck driver who he proactively tried to save, and ended up being unable to. Add that in to the guilt trip his handler gave him over the submarine plans - which I really do think Oleg nailed as being way, way more attributable to Soviet incompetence than to, gasp, the Americans having the GALL to plant fake plans - and he's on the verge of a meltdown.
And we haven't even talked about Stan's steady decline into Soviet asset. Is he starting to realize that he's been played like a drum by Nina and her Soviet hindquarters?
Quote from: R-V on April 25, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
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Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 25, 2014, 09:14:51 AM
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Why aren't you watching this show? Stop reading this post and go catch up on it, you hooplehead. Then come back here and we can rap about it.
I'm not watching, but I saw that Oliver North got writing credit on the last episode. What's the DEAL with THAT?
I also noticed that. Season's finally picking up steam. I think it's been a bit slow. It's a pretty sad show overall and I think it's working toward a turn by Phillip. I could be wrong and it's all just a tease. But they keep dropping hints that the wife is way more into the Motherland than he is.
I like that this show is slow/sad - to me it's a great character study that says, yeah spying shit is cool, but there are *actual people* who have to do that shit, and man it takes a hellacious toll on them. I think Phillip is maybe just a bit less dedicated to the cause than Elizabeth is, but not by much - he just isn't as vocal about it, and happens to also enjoy the amenities of American consumerism. I do think he's able to compartmentalize that. What he is increasingly unable to compartmentalize is how many poor innocent bastards he's had to kill this season - the busboy and computer geek earlier in the season, and now in the latest episode, the snot-nosed young soldier and the septic truck driver who he proactively tried to save, and ended up being unable to. Add that in to the guilt trip his handler gave him over the submarine plans - which I really do think Oleg nailed as being way, way more attributable to Soviet incompetence than to, gasp, the Americans having the GALL to plant fake plans - and he's on the verge of a meltdown.
And we haven't even talked about Stan's steady decline into Soviet asset. Is he starting to realize that he's been played like a drum by Nina and her Soviet hindquarters?
I don't care how good the show is, the prop wigs are hellaciously bad.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 25, 2014, 09:24:12 AM
"What a great opportunity it is to showcase the man who changed the world for the good, for my kids and my grandkids," Mr. North said of Mr. Reagan.
W.T.F. I get it that Republicans bob on Reagan's knob for all sorts of reasons, but ... Iran-Contra?
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Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 25, 2014, 09:14:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 25, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
Why aren't you watching this show? Stop reading this post and go catch up on it, you hooplehead. Then come back here and we can rap about it.
I'm not watching, but I saw that Oliver North got writing credit on the last episode. What's the DEAL with THAT?
I also noticed that. Season's finally picking up steam. I think it's been a bit slow. It's a pretty sad show overall and I think it's working toward a turn by Phillip. I could be wrong and it's all just a tease. But they keep dropping hints that the wife is way more into the Motherland than he is.
I like that this show is slow/sad - to me it's a great character study that says, yeah spying shit is cool, but there are *actual people* who have to do that shit, and man it takes a hellacious toll on them. I think Phillip is maybe just a bit less dedicated to the cause than Elizabeth is, but not by much - he just isn't as vocal about it, and happens to also enjoy the amenities of American consumerism. I do think he's able to compartmentalize that. What he is increasingly unable to compartmentalize is how many poor innocent bastards he's had to kill this season - the busboy and computer geek earlier in the season, and now in the latest episode, the snot-nosed young soldier and the septic truck driver who he proactively tried to save, and ended up being unable to. Add that in to the guilt trip his handler gave him over the submarine plans - which I really do think Oleg nailed as being way, way more attributable to Soviet incompetence than to, gasp, the Americans having the GALL to plant fake plans - and he's on the verge of a meltdown.
And we haven't even talked about Stan's steady decline into Soviet asset. Is he starting to realize that he's been played like a drum by Nina and her Soviet hindquarters?
Is Nina playing him or is Nina playing the Russian guy? Not Arcady, but the younger dude. I can't tell anymore...which mean Nina is playing ME. Which means WATCH THIS SHOW
Finale was the best ep of this show by miles. The opening scene was the best of most TV I've seen this year. They FINALLY used a licensed song and it happened to be Twilight Zone. The Jennings' trying to save Mimi's brother juxtaposed with Dork Daughter protesting as the cops come in and start cracking skulls was fucking fantastic.
Also - the twist at the end setting up season 3 was fucking brilliant. Next season promises to be very good.
Quote from: Slaky on May 23, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
Finale was the best ep of this show by miles. The opening scene was the best of most TV I've seen this year. They FINALLY used a licensed song and it happened to be Twilight Zone. The Jennings' trying to save Mimi's brother juxtaposed with Dork Daughter protesting as the cops come in and start cracking skulls was fucking fantastic.
Also - the twist at the end setting up season 3 was fucking brilliant. Next season promises to be very good.
Da, ETO.
Quote from: Slaky on May 23, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
Finale was the best ep of this show by miles. The opening scene was the best of most TV I've seen this year. They FINALLY used a licensed song and it happened to be Twilight Zone. The Jennings' trying to save Mimi's brother juxtaposed with Dork Daughter protesting as the cops come in and start cracking skulls was fucking fantastic.
Also - the twist at the end setting up season 3 was fucking brilliant. Next season promises to be very good.
Promise: fulfilled. Other than Stan's story being a bit aimless, this season has been firing on all cylinders. Frank Langella has been a great addition.
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Quote from: Slaky on May 23, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
Finale was the best ep of this show by miles. The opening scene was the best of most TV I've seen this year. They FINALLY used a licensed song and it happened to be Twilight Zone. The Jennings' trying to save Mimi's brother juxtaposed with Dork Daughter protesting as the cops come in and start cracking skulls was fucking fantastic.
Also - the twist at the end setting up season 3 was fucking brilliant. Next season promises to be very good.
Promise: fulfilled. Other than Stan's story being a bit aimless, this season has been firing on all cylinders. Frank Langella has been a great addition.
I've been thinking about getting into this show but it doesn't appear to be on Netlfix. Sads.
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Finale was the best ep of this show by miles. The opening scene was the best of most TV I've seen this year. They FINALLY used a licensed song and it happened to be Twilight Zone. The Jennings' trying to save Mimi's brother juxtaposed with Dork Daughter protesting as the cops come in and start cracking skulls was fucking fantastic.
Also - the twist at the end setting up season 3 was fucking brilliant. Next season promises to be very good.
Promise: fulfilled. Other than Stan's story being a bit aimless, this season has been firing on all cylinders. Frank Langella has been a great addition.
I've been thinking about getting into this show but it doesn't appear to be on Netlfix. Sads.
FX has an app. Pretty sure it has all the seasons. App is free if you have FX on your sat or cable. This is my spring break show.
Who's excited? This season has been incredible. The wig pull-off was the balls.
I just found out Martha is English IRL which 'splains all my issues with her.
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Anybody watching season 4? I haven't seen last night's yet (episode 5), but episode 4 had a big update...don't know policy around here regarding spoilers, etc. or I would elaborate.
Quote from: J Rod on April 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
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Anybody watching season 4? I haven't seen last night's yet (episode 5), but episode 4 had a big update...don't know policy around here regarding spoilers, etc. or I would elaborate.
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 14, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
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Anybody watching season 4? I haven't seen last night's yet (episode 5), but episode 4 had a big update...don't know policy around here regarding spoilers, etc. or I would elaborate.
Your sentence will be carried out... shortly.
This season has been amazing so far. Seems like they're building up to some amazing pay offs with Martha, Paige and the pastor, the weird relationship with Beeman, Phillip's obvious increasing dislike of his job, etc.
I know next season has already been picked up but
Quote from: Slaky on April 18, 2016, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 14, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
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Anybody watching season 4? I haven't seen last night's yet (episode 5), but episode 4 had a big update...don't know policy around here regarding spoilers, etc. or I would elaborate.
Your sentence will be carried out... shortly.
This season has been amazing so far. Seems like they're building up to some amazing pay offs with Martha, Paige and the pastor, the weird relationship with Beeman, Phillip's obvious increasing dislike of his job, etc.
I know next season has already been picked up but
I get the feeling that Martha's days might be numbered. They have a good cover story with Beeman finding the valium and revolver in her apartment...a staged suicide, perhaps? But then the previews for next week seem to suggest something else. If this show has 1, or 2, more seasons left, you'd think that they were start moving in the direction of how it will wrap up...which I think has to have Philip & Elizabeth defecting to save their kids.
Whenever I hear Beeman, I always think of this guy...
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Quote from: J Rod on April 18, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 18, 2016, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 14, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
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Anybody watching season 4? I haven't seen last night's yet (episode 5), but episode 4 had a big update...don't know policy around here regarding spoilers, etc. or I would elaborate.
Your sentence will be carried out... shortly.
This season has been amazing so far. Seems like they're building up to some amazing pay offs with Martha, Paige and the pastor, the weird relationship with Beeman, Phillip's obvious increasing dislike of his job, etc.
I know next season has already been picked up but
I get the feeling that Martha's days might be numbered. They have a good cover story with Beeman finding the valium and revolver in her apartment...a staged suicide, perhaps? But then the previews for next week seem to suggest something else. If this show has 1, or 2, more seasons left, you'd think that they were start moving in the direction of how it will wrap up...which I think has to have Philip & Elizabeth defecting to save their kids.
Don't see anyway Elizabeth defects. Kinda hard to see them ending up together. If the whole show is a study of a marriage with the backdrop of a spy show, where they work for a country only a few years away from breaking up, hard to see how they aren't "divorced" somehow by the end.
One of the best things they did was drop the story line with Philip and the underage daughter of the CIA dude. That was gross.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 18, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 18, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 18, 2016, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 14, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
*BUMP*
Anybody watching season 4? I haven't seen last night's yet (episode 5), but episode 4 had a big update...don't know policy around here regarding spoilers, etc. or I would elaborate.
Your sentence will be carried out... shortly.
This season has been amazing so far. Seems like they're building up to some amazing pay offs with Martha, Paige and the pastor, the weird relationship with Beeman, Phillip's obvious increasing dislike of his job, etc.
I know next season has already been picked up but
I get the feeling that Martha's days might be numbered. They have a good cover story with Beeman finding the valium and revolver in her apartment...a staged suicide, perhaps? But then the previews for next week seem to suggest something else. If this show has 1, or 2, more seasons left, you'd think that they were start moving in the direction of how it will wrap up...which I think has to have Philip & Elizabeth defecting to save their kids.
Don't see anyway Elizabeth defects. Kinda hard to see them ending up together. If the whole show is a study of a marriage with the backdrop of a spy show, where they work for a country only a few years away from breaking up, hard to see how they aren't "divorced" somehow by the end.
Don't think so? Of the two, she's definitely the more devoted to 'the cause', but I can see her defecting. It seems like there are occasional cracks. It wouldn't be because she had some realization that she liked the U.S. (for which she has huge amounts of disdain)...it would have to be something dramatically changing on the USSR home front, or to protect their kids. I would be surprised if they ended up separated by the end of the show...every now and then (like the end of ep. 5) she seems to claim her territory with Philip...and she'd never be able to find someone to relate to, like she can with him.
Quote from: Shooter on April 18, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
One of the best things they did was drop the story line with Philip and the underage daughter of the CIA dude. That was gross.
100% agree...it was practically unwatchable.
Quote from: J Rod on April 20, 2016, 08:07:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 18, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 18, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 18, 2016, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 14, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: J Rod on April 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
*BUMP*
Anybody watching season 4? I haven't seen last night's yet (episode 5), but episode 4 had a big update...don't know policy around here regarding spoilers, etc. or I would elaborate.
Your sentence will be carried out... shortly.
This season has been amazing so far. Seems like they're building up to some amazing pay offs with Martha, Paige and the pastor, the weird relationship with Beeman, Phillip's obvious increasing dislike of his job, etc.
I know next season has already been picked up but
I get the feeling that Martha's days might be numbered. They have a good cover story with Beeman finding the valium and revolver in her apartment...a staged suicide, perhaps? But then the previews for next week seem to suggest something else. If this show has 1, or 2, more seasons left, you'd think that they were start moving in the direction of how it will wrap up...which I think has to have Philip & Elizabeth defecting to save their kids.
Don't see anyway Elizabeth defects. Kinda hard to see them ending up together. If the whole show is a study of a marriage with the backdrop of a spy show, where they work for a country only a few years away from breaking up, hard to see how they aren't "divorced" somehow by the end.
Don't think so? Of the two, she's definitely the more devoted to 'the cause', but I can see her defecting. It seems like there are occasional cracks. It wouldn't be because she had some realization that she liked the U.S. (for which she has huge amounts of disdain)...it would have to be something dramatically changing on the USSR home front, or to protect their kids. I would be surprised if they ended up separated by the end of the show...every now and then (like the end of ep. 5) she seems to claim her territory with Philip...and she'd never be able to find someone to relate to, like she can with him.
I don't think she'd defect because it would be totally BS and essentially a "happy ending" which this show does not have nor will ever have. It makes no sense. Phillip shows cracks but Elizabeth really openly hates the US and they make it clear, often. For the producers to drop the ambiguous nature of the show's stance on both countries would be so out of character. Neither has been shown to be better than the other - just different, and with unique and horrible problems of their own.
However - they would also seemingly do anything for their kids. So that's the monkeywrench here. How does the Paige situation get resolved? Hard to see her jumping into spy work without something triggering her into it. She's too emotional at this point. She can't even keep it cool with the pastor.
I think Martha being shipped off to live alone in Buttpuddle Russia, with no family or her beloved Clark, and not speaking the language, is about the saddest thing I can imagine. I think she's better off dead.
Quote from: J Rod on April 20, 2016, 08:07:59 AM
Quote from: Shooter on April 18, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
One of the best things they did was drop the story line with Philip and the underage daughter of the CIA dude. That was gross.
100% agree...it was practically unwatchable.
I heard Joel Fields (one of the executive producers) on a podcast, and he gave the impression that it was coming back. He basically said that just because you don't see a plot line on the screen, it doesn't mean it has gone away -- they don't show the viewers 24/7 of the characters' lives.
Quote from: R-V on April 29, 2016, 12:49:46 PM
I think Martha being shipped off to live alone in Buttpuddle Russia, with no family or her beloved Clark, and not speaking the language, is about the saddest thing I can imagine. I think she's better off dead.
That was truly heartbreaking television. Few shows do it better. When he decided to be upfront with her and tell her he was never going to visit. I mean holy shit.
This is the best season, so far.
Season finale predictions? My guess is that it ends with Stan having his Hank Schrader moment about his neighbors. He's getting close. Kudos to his new boss for not being the dipshit I was totally expecting.
Quote from: R-V on June 03, 2016, 10:33:15 AM
Season finale predictions? My guess is that it ends with Stan having his Hank Schrader moment about his neighbors. He's getting close. Kudos to his new boss for not being the dipshit I was totally expecting.
Too soon for that. They'd have to carry 13 eps over 2 years with them as neighbors. I'm guessing this is more a Paige finale. She makes a decision that forces the parents to choose in how to support their kid.
Side note: The Wife's name is Paige. Paige in this show is the exact same age as The Wife is. Was. Whatever.
This could just as easily go in the "I admit it" thread, but I just now realized that Richard Thomas (Frank Gaad) was John Boy Walton.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 11, 2016, 01:22:37 PM
This could just as easily go in the "I admit it" thread, but I just now realized that Richard Thomas (Frank Gaad) was John Boy Walton.
Really? John Boy Walton will only ever be John Boy Walton to me.
EDIT: I should point out that, when I was growing up, not only did we only have three TV channels in the UK, but they didn't broadcast much in the mornings. If Sunday morning was cold and/or wet, the Waltons was your fucking lot. I really hated cold and/or wet Sunday mornings.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 11, 2016, 01:22:37 PM
This could just as easily go in the "I admit it" thread, but I just now realized that Richard Thomas (Frank Gaad) was John Boy Walton.
Never saw an episode.
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Quote from: ChuckD on June 11, 2016, 01:22:37 PM
This could just as easily go in the "I admit it" thread, but I just now realized that Richard Thomas (Frank Gaad) was John Boy Walton.
Never saw an episode.
Great addition.
Quote from: Slaky on June 17, 2016, 10:39:27 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 17, 2016, 08:26:35 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 11, 2016, 01:22:37 PM
This could just as easily go in the "I admit it" thread, but I just now realized that Richard Thomas (Frank Gaad) was John Boy Walton.
Never saw an episode.
Great addition.
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