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Title: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on July 05, 2013, 08:52:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 01, 2013, 12:54:10 PM
Probably time for a new thread, yeah?

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

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Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 05, 2013, 09:38:41 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 05, 2013, 08:52:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 01, 2013, 12:54:10 PM
Probably time for a new thread, yeah?

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

(http://i.imgur.com/vAiZX0u.jpg)

Khabi & Kane will be a season-long movie starring Vince Vaughn & Owen Wilson.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 06, 2013, 08:24:06 AM
*closes laptop on train*
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 06, 2013, 04:41:17 PM
Hockey-smart people: What should I think about the off-season moves thus far?  ARR DESE BUMZ ANY GUD
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Slaky on July 06, 2013, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 06, 2013, 04:41:17 PM
Hockey-smart people: What should I think about the off-season moves thus far?  ARR DESE BUMZ ANY GUD

It's the same goddamn team.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 06, 2013, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 06, 2013, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 06, 2013, 04:41:17 PM
Hockey-smart people: What should I think about the off-season moves thus far?  ARR DESE BUMZ ANY GUD

It's the same goddamn team.

Whew.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on July 08, 2013, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 06, 2013, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 06, 2013, 04:41:17 PM
Hockey-smart people: What should I think about the off-season moves thus far?  ARR DESE BUMZ ANY GUD

It's the same goddamn team.

You know, this is true, and it's fucking fantastic.  This wasn't some team that fell assbackwards into a title, these guys were the best team in the NHL from wire to wire.  They lost 4 guys from the roster, one of whom was the backup goalie and another who was Viktor Stalberg.  The only team that gave them a series in the Western Conference just moved to the East.  While most GMs went absolutely apeshit handing out ridiculous contracts in free agency the only "big" contract Bowman handed out was to Bryan Bickell, and it's now apparent Bicks left at least a year and $1 million on the table by not hitting the market.  There are several Ice Hogs that are ready to step in next year that I'm actually excited to see.  The  major questions the team has are Marian Hossa's health and whether Brandon Pirri can hold down the second line center spot.  Which are pretty much the same questions they had (sub in Dave Bolland for Pirri) going into 2013.

In short, after a 2 week break, I'm ready for hockey.  Let's start the season tomorrow.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Slaky on July 08, 2013, 10:35:56 PM
Yes - Bowstink actually said after the first day of FA that he thinks if you're trying to build a team through free agency you've already lost. His plan - and clearly it is working - is to have youth ready to come up each and every year while shedding the expensive support players via trades for more picks. And the cycle continues.

That's exactly what you saw with the Bolland and Frolik trades. He said his scouts told him before the draft they wanted him to get more picks so that's what he did. Hopefully those scouts know what they're talking about. Based on guys like Shaw being picked in the 5th round and being almost instant NHL contributors I have to think they do.

If you can't enjoy watching a well-run franchise like this I don't know what else to tell you.

Side note: CT's point of Stalberg playing for Trotz is just the funniest goddamn thing. I can't wait to see how that goes.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2013, 10:55:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 08, 2013, 10:35:56 PM
Yes - Bowstink actually said after the first day of FA that he thinks if you're trying to build a team through free agency you've already lost. His plan - and clearly it is working - is to have youth ready to come up each and every year while shedding the expensive support players via trades for more picks. And the cycle continues.

That's exactly what you saw with the Bolland and Frolik trades. He said his scouts told him before the draft they wanted him to get more picks so that's what he did. Hopefully those scouts know what they're talking about. Based on guys like Shaw being picked in the 5th round and being almost instant NHL contributors I have to think they do.

If you can't enjoy watching a well-run franchise like this I don't know what else to tell you.

Side note: CT's point of Stalberg playing for Trotz is just the funniest goddamn thing. I can't wait to see how that goes.

Just wait until you write the same thing about the Cubs in a few years.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on July 08, 2013, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2013, 10:55:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 08, 2013, 10:35:56 PM
Yes - Bowstink actually said after the first day of FA that he thinks if you're trying to build a team through free agency you've already lost. His plan - and clearly it is working - is to have youth ready to come up each and every year while shedding the expensive support players via trades for more picks. And the cycle continues.

That's exactly what you saw with the Bolland and Frolik trades. He said his scouts told him before the draft they wanted him to get more picks so that's what he did. Hopefully those scouts know what they're talking about. Based on guys like Shaw being picked in the 5th round and being almost instant NHL contributors I have to think they do.

If you can't enjoy watching a well-run franchise like this I don't know what else to tell you.

Side note: CT's point of Stalberg playing for Trotz is just the funniest goddamn thing. I can't wait to see how that goes.

Just wait until you write the same thing about the Cubs in a few years.

#WavesOfTalent
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 09, 2013, 07:57:16 AM
Since Bickell is staying, Jeremy Morin (more of a Manbearpig than Sean Marshall) is arriving, and Mark McNeill is a year away, the 'hit the Hawks into submission" strategy will work a lot less than it already does.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 25, 2013, 03:15:30 PM
Just got the group sales email. October 5th is my first choice.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on September 03, 2013, 08:35:55 AM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...

And to learn the difference between a trade and a contract extension?

Guess they don't teach you that at your fancy rotoworld site.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:57:12 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 03, 2013, 08:35:55 AM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...

And to learn the difference between a trade and a contract extension?

Guess they don't teach you that at your fancy rotoworld site.

Sick burn. Toast.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 03, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...

CT already corrected you on the trade/extension thing, but it's a decent signing. $6MM/per for 6 years  is right in the ballpark with guys like Jimmy Howard, Kari Lehtonen, Carey Price, Mike Smith, Cam Ward and Tuukka Rask. Plus, it gives the Hawks stability in net that they haven's had since they had Ed Belfour. He's still only 28, and has a Jennings Trophy, a Stanley Cup, and will probably have an Olympic medal by season's end.

So naturally Blackhawks fans are losing their collective shit over this.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 03, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...

CT already corrected you on the trade/extension thing, but it's a decent signing. $6MM/per for 6 years  is right in the ballpark with guys like Jimmy Howard, Kari Lehtonen, Carey Price, Mike Smith, Cam Ward and Tuukka Rask. Plus, it gives the Hawks stability in net that they haven's had since they had Ed Belfour. He's still only 28, and has a Jennings Trophy, a Stanley Cup, and will probably have an Olympic medal by season's end.

So naturally Blackhawks fans are losing their collective shit over this.

It's not the dollars, it's the years.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 03, 2013, 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 03, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...

CT already corrected you on the trade/extension thing, but it's a decent signing. $6MM/per for 6 years  is right in the ballpark with guys like Jimmy Howard, Kari Lehtonen, Carey Price, Mike Smith, Cam Ward and Tuukka Rask. Plus, it gives the Hawks stability in net that they haven's had since they had Ed Belfour. He's still only 28, and has a Jennings Trophy, a Stanley Cup, and will probably have an Olympic medal by season's end.

So naturally Blackhawks fans are losing their collective shit over this.

It's not the dollars, it's the years.

In order to get Crawford to sign for those dollars now (as opposed to waiting to see what happens this year, when the Hawks will have to have a lot go wrong to not at least get back to the Western Conference Final) , they had to give the years.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Brownie on September 03, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 03, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...

CT already corrected you on the trade/extension thing, but it's a decent signing. $6MM/per for 6 years  is right in the ballpark with guys like Jimmy Howard, Kari Lehtonen, Carey Price, Mike Smith, Cam Ward and Tuukka Rask. Plus, it gives the Hawks stability in net that they haven's had since they had Ed Belfour. He's still only 28, and has a Jennings Trophy, a Stanley Cup, and will probably have an Olympic medal by season's end.

So naturally Blackhawks fans are losing their collective shit over this.

It's not the dollars, it's the years.

So, do we have six years of FYCs each time Crawford gets a shutout?
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 03, 2013, 12:22:41 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 03, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 03, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...

CT already corrected you on the trade/extension thing, but it's a decent signing. $6MM/per for 6 years  is right in the ballpark with guys like Jimmy Howard, Kari Lehtonen, Carey Price, Mike Smith, Cam Ward and Tuukka Rask. Plus, it gives the Hawks stability in net that they haven's had since they had Ed Belfour. He's still only 28, and has a Jennings Trophy, a Stanley Cup, and will probably have an Olympic medal by season's end.

So naturally Blackhawks fans are losing their collective shit over this.

It's not the dollars, it's the years.

So, do we have six years of FYCs each time Crawford gets a shutout?

And every time Hossa scores a goal.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 03, 2013, 04:42:38 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 03, 2013, 12:22:41 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 03, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 03, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
Quote from: BH on September 03, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 02, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Fucking right, Chicago. Fucking worked his nuts off for this contract. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-chicago-blackhawks-crawford-extension-20130902,0,3151013.story)

QuoteCorey Crawford's incredible year has been capped off with the announcement that that Chicago Blackhawks goaltender agreed to a six-year contract extension Monday.

... The deal reportedly is worth $36 million, which would mean an annual salary-cap hit of $6 million.

$6MM. Oh, my.

I went to hockeenight to get their analysis on this trade...

CT already corrected you on the trade/extension thing, but it's a decent signing. $6MM/per for 6 years  is right in the ballpark with guys like Jimmy Howard, Kari Lehtonen, Carey Price, Mike Smith, Cam Ward and Tuukka Rask. Plus, it gives the Hawks stability in net that they haven's had since they had Ed Belfour. He's still only 28, and has a Jennings Trophy, a Stanley Cup, and will probably have an Olympic medal by season's end.

So naturally Blackhawks fans are losing their collective shit over this.

It's not the dollars, it's the years.

So, do we have six years of FYCs each time Crawford gets a shutout?

And every time Hossa scores a goal.

Fortunately for Chuck, Stan Bowman has a history of giving out long term deals that have bitten the Hawks in the ass.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 04, 2013, 10:16:54 AM
DPD.

Niklas Hjalmarsson signed an extension for 5 years, with a cap hit of $600K more than his current one. I think this might be the best contract Stan Bowman has given out.

So now I'll hang up and wait for Chuck to tell me how awful it is.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:21:48 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:16:54 AM
DPD.

Niklas Hjalmarsson signed an extension for 5 years, with a cap hit of $600K more than his current one. I think this might be the best contract Stan Bowman has given out.

So now I'll hang up and wait for Chuck to tell me how awful it is.
It's not the krona, it's the years.
Seriously, I don't understand - or care to learn - about the NHL salary cap to know if any of these are good or bad deals
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Gilgamesh on September 04, 2013, 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:21:48 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:16:54 AM
DPD.

Niklas Hjalmarsson signed an extension for 5 years, with a cap hit of $600K more than his current one. I think this might be the best contract Stan Bowman has given out.

So now I'll hang up and wait for Chuck to tell me how awful it is.
It's not the krona, it's the years.
Seriously, I don't understand - or care to learn - about the NHL salary cap to know if any of these are good or bad deals

"I just want to make half-cocked comments without bothering to learn the nuance or the idiosyncrasies of the thing I'm criticizing.

WHAT'S SO WRONG WITH THAT!?!?!?!"
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:43:04 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 04, 2013, 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:21:48 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:16:54 AM
DPD.

Niklas Hjalmarsson signed an extension for 5 years, with a cap hit of $600K more than his current one. I think this might be the best contract Stan Bowman has given out.

So now I'll hang up and wait for Chuck to tell me how awful it is.
It's not the krona, it's the years.
Seriously, I don't understand - or care to learn - about the NHL salary cap to know if any of these are good or bad deals

"I just want to make half-cocked comments without bothering to learn the nuance or the idiosyncrasies of the thing I'm criticizing.

WHAT'S SO WRONG WITH THAT!?!?!?!"
There's criticism and then there's what you all expect me to do.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:21:48 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:16:54 AM
DPD.

Niklas Hjalmarsson signed an extension for 5 years, with a cap hit of $600K more than his current one. I think this might be the best contract Stan Bowman has given out.

So now I'll hang up and wait for Chuck to tell me how awful it is.
It's not the krona, it's the years.
Seriously, I don't understand - or care to learn - about the NHL salary cap to know if any of these are good or bad deals

Operating under the assumption that everyone here knows how a salary cap works, the NHL is seeing a huge rise in hockey related revenue, thanks to TV ratings that would still make any NBA official cut his wrists, but still better than anything the NHL has done. Plus, the 6 outdoor games this year (with, of course, special jerseysavailable for sale), and the Olympics giving hockey a boost in popularity means the cap will take a pretty big jump. In fact most forecasts are predicting it will go up to around $80 million from its current $64.3 million over the next 5 years. Plus the Phoenix out clause (they can relocate if when they lose $50 million in 5 years) means another nice bump.

The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on Hjalmarsson means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.

So is Hossa glue then? Fuck.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 04, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.

So is Hossa glue then? Fuck.

No, he's still got at least enough years left in him to notch his 500th goal (he got #400 in 2013). Just when the time comes, this will be the Hawks' move.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.

So is Hossa glue then? Fuck.

No, he's still got at least enough years left in him to notch his 500th goal (he got #400 in 2013). Just when the time comes, this will be the Hawks' move.

If the Hawks thought Hoss were done for now, they would have used one of their compliance buyouts on him earlier this summer to wipe his cap hit off the books.

Fork is talking about the future.

If Hossa retires or flees the NHL before the end of his contract, the Hawks would be on the hook for all the cap space they'd saved by back-loading the deal ("cap advantage recapture").

And, since they can no longer bury large cap hits in the AHL (or, as with Huet, in a Euro league), LTIR will be the only way to keep him from impacting their cap space when it comes time for it.

A player eligible for LTIR is one who:

Quote... becomes unfit to play (i.e., is injured, ill or disabled and unable to perform his duties as a hockey Player) such that the Club's physician believes, in his or her opinion, that the Player, owing to either an injury or an illness, will be unfit to play for at least (i) twenty-four (24) calendar days and (ii) ten (10) NHL Regular Season games...

This can be subject to a challenge from the league and review by a neutral physician.

Presumably that won't be an issue as, by the time Hossa retires, there will have likely been enough brain scramblings and various and sundry back maladies to qualify him as legitimately "unfit to play". Yay?
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.

So is Hossa glue then? Fuck.

No, he's still got at least enough years left in him to notch his 500th goal (he got #400 in 2013). Just when the time comes, this will be the Hawks' move.

If the Hawks thought Hoss were done for now, they would have used one of their compliance buyouts on him earlier this summer to wipe his cap hit off the books.

Fork is talking about the future.

If Hossa retires or flees the NHL before the end of his contract, the Hawks would be on the hook for all the cap space they'd saved by back-loading the deal ("cap advantage recapture").

And, since they can no longer bury large cap hits in the AHL (or, as with Huet, in a Euro league), LTIR will be the only way to keep him from impacting their cap space when it comes time for it.

A player eligible for LTIR is one who:

Quote... becomes unfit to play (i.e., is injured, ill or disabled and unable to perform his duties as a hockey Player) such that the Club's physician believes, in his or her opinion, that the Player, owing to either an injury or an illness, will be unfit to play for at least (i) twenty-four (24) calendar days and (ii) ten (10) NHL Regular Season games...

This can be subject to a challenge from the league and review by a neutral physician.

Presumably that won't be an issue as, by the time Hossa retires, there will have likely been enough brain scramblings and various and sundry back maladies to qualify him as legitimately "unfit to play". Yay?

(http://randomlypredictable.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/junior-soprano-1024-300x296.jpg)

Yay.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 04, 2013, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.

So is Hossa glue then? Fuck.

No, he's still got at least enough years left in him to notch his 500th goal (he got #400 in 2013). Just when the time comes, this will be the Hawks' move.

If the Hawks thought Hoss were done for now, they would have used one of their compliance buyouts on him earlier this summer to wipe his cap hit off the books.

Fork is talking about the future.

If Hossa retires or flees the NHL before the end of his contract, the Hawks would be on the hook for all the cap space they'd saved by back-loading the deal ("cap advantage recapture").

And, since they can no longer bury large cap hits in the AHL (or, as with Huet, in a Euro league), LTIR will be the only way to keep him from impacting their cap space when it comes time for it.

A player eligible for LTIR is one who:

Quote... becomes unfit to play (i.e., is injured, ill or disabled and unable to perform his duties as a hockey Player) such that the Club's physician believes, in his or her opinion, that the Player, owing to either an injury or an illness, will be unfit to play for at least (i) twenty-four (24) calendar days and (ii) ten (10) NHL Regular Season games...

This can be subject to a challenge from the league and review by a neutral physician.

Presumably that won't be an issue as, by the time Hossa retires, there will have likely been enough brain scramblings and various and sundry back maladies to qualify him as legitimately "unfit to play". Yay?

I couldn't find anything in the CBA that would prevent a team from trading a player to a team that hasn't used both their compliance buyouts after this season, so that he could be bought out there (the 2 buyouts per team could be used in windows in 2013 - since past - and 2014). I don't think the Hawks would use this on Hossa, but there are still some lousy contracts out there. Not to mention, a few guys, Martin Havlat for example, were hurt and couldn't get bought out this summer. Perhaps the biggest masterstroke the Hawks had was getting Steve Montador and Rostslav Olesz into some games in Rockford, so they were cleared for play/buyout.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 12:31:43 PM
I couldn't find anything in the CBA that would prevent a team from trading a player to a team that hasn't used both their compliance buyouts after this season, so that he could be bought out there (the 2 buyouts per team could be used in windows in 2013 - since past - and 2014).

No, but it's certainly possible that the league would still declare it to be cap circumvention, just as they did with Tampa's attempted shenanigans with Lecavalier this summer.

As far as I'm aware there was nothing in the letter of the law that forbade that scheme, but the league still nixed it as contrary to the spirit of the thing.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on September 04, 2013, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 12:31:43 PM
I couldn't find anything in the CBA that would prevent a team from trading a player to a team that hasn't used both their compliance buyouts after this season, so that he could be bought out there (the 2 buyouts per team could be used in windows in 2013 - since past - and 2014).

No, but it's certainly possible that the league would still declare it to be cap circumvention, just as they did with Tampa's attempted shenanigans with Lecavalier this summer.

As far as I'm aware there was nothing in the letter of the law that forbade that scheme, but the league still nixed it as contrary to the spirit of the thing.

They did, although the main sticking point for the league appears to have been Tampa's intention to re-sign Lecavalier after he was bought out.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/26/trade-and-buyout-deal-between-lightning-maple-leafs-for-vincent-lecavalier-reportedly-nixed

Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 04, 2013, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 12:41:35 PM

No, but it's certainly possible that the league would still declare it to be cap circumvention, just as they did with Tampa's attempted shenanigans with Lecavalier this summer.

Not only did Lacavalier get bought out, but then Philly gave him a fuckload of money - after using their two buyouts, including one on Daniel Briere, who is just a shorter version of Lacavalier.

The Flyers are one hilariously inept bunch.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 04, 2013, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 12:31:43 PM
I couldn't find anything in the CBA that would prevent a team from trading a player to a team that hasn't used both their compliance buyouts after this season, so that he could be bought out there (the 2 buyouts per team could be used in windows in 2013 - since past - and 2014).

No, but it's certainly possible that the league would still declare it to be cap circumvention, just as they did with Tampa's attempted shenanigans with Lecavalier this summer.

As far as I'm aware there was nothing in the letter of the law that forbade that scheme, but the league still nixed it as contrary to the spirit of the thing.

They did, although the main sticking point for the league appears to have been Tampa's intention to re-sign Lecavalier after he was bought out.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/26/trade-and-buyout-deal-between-lightning-maple-leafs-for-vincent-lecavalier-reportedly-nixed

Right. Thus circumventing the CBA rule against re-signing a bought out player within a year of their amnesty. Just as Fork's plan would involve trading a player only for sake of circumventing the 2-compliance-buyout limit.

I suppose if the player were traded in-season and actually played for his new squadron before getting bought out that would probably be cool. But, in that case, the trading team is only getting a few months out of him themselves anyways.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 04, 2013, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 04, 2013, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 04, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 12:31:43 PM
I couldn't find anything in the CBA that would prevent a team from trading a player to a team that hasn't used both their compliance buyouts after this season, so that he could be bought out there (the 2 buyouts per team could be used in windows in 2013 - since past - and 2014).

No, but it's certainly possible that the league would still declare it to be cap circumvention, just as they did with Tampa's attempted shenanigans with Lecavalier this summer.

As far as I'm aware there was nothing in the letter of the law that forbade that scheme, but the league still nixed it as contrary to the spirit of the thing.

They did, although the main sticking point for the league appears to have been Tampa's intention to re-sign Lecavalier after he was bought out.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/26/trade-and-buyout-deal-between-lightning-maple-leafs-for-vincent-lecavalier-reportedly-nixed

Right. Thus circumventing the CBA rule against re-signing a bought out player within a year of their amnesty. Just as Fork's plan would involve trading a player only for sake of circumventing the 2-compliance-buyout limit.

I suppose if the player were traded in-season and actually played for his new squadron before getting bought out that would probably be cool. But, in that case, the trading team is only getting a few months out of him themselves anyways.

The trading team could also help pay for him under the new CBA. But then they get cap space. The CBA as originally published even had a loophole that would have allowed a team to buy out a player and resign him at a lower cap hit. They sealed up that gambit before the BoG voted on it.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 18, 2013, 12:17:55 AM
Going long on silver in the cheddar pit...

(http://i.imgur.com/D4E9LiM.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/OLqS4dw.jpg)
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: flannj on September 18, 2013, 07:55:14 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 18, 2013, 12:17:55 AM
Going long on silver in the cheddar pit...


Pretty much all trading came to a screeching halt while he was here.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on September 18, 2013, 08:35:33 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 18, 2013, 07:55:14 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 18, 2013, 12:17:55 AM
Going long on silver in the cheddar pit...


Pretty much all trading came to a screeching halt while he was here.

HE WAS CLOWNIN' WITH DA TRAITORS DA UDDER DAY BUT COULDN'T PLAY IN A PRESEASON GAME AGAINST DA HATED RED WINGS?!?

TOVES HAS GONE SOFT, DIS IS NOT WHAT I PAY HIS CELERY FOR
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Internet Apex on September 18, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
What's the deal with the jacket?
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: flannj on September 18, 2013, 08:57:09 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
What's the deal with the jacket?

I heard he's got dozens of them, wears them everywhere.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 18, 2013, 08:57:09 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 18, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
What's the deal with the jacket?

I heard he's got dozens of them, wears them everywhere.

Did he short FCOJ?
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: BBM on September 22, 2013, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

Don't Worry they have goal machine known as Brandon Bollig to replace him. 

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.

So is Hossa glue then? Fuck.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 22, 2013, 09:59:48 AM
Quote from: BBM on September 22, 2013, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

Don't Worry they have goal machine known as Brandon Bollig to replace him. 

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.

So is Hossa glue then? Fuck.

I'm pretty sure Slak already has a Bollig sweater on order.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on October 01, 2013, 10:29:40 PM
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Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 02, 2013, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 22, 2013, 09:59:48 AM
Quote from: BBM on September 22, 2013, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 04, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 04, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The fact that Stan Bowman essentially held the line on means the only complaint anyone can have is that they have a goalie who is signed until he's 35 or a defenseman who is signed until he's 32.
My only question would be on how Hossa's contract fits into this.  There are some cap effects that happen if he retires / quits before the end of his contract that I don't fully understand other than that the costs are high.  It certainly appears that Hjalmarsson's contract being low helps cushion the (probable) Hossa costs.  Scott and Stan know what they are doing.

Don't Worry they have goal machine known as Brandon Bollig to replace him. 

The quick & dirty way to circumvent the salary cap with Hossa is to just place him on Long Term Injured Reserve once training camp opens, that way his salary doesn't count against the Cap. He just can't officially retire until his contract runs out. This is what Philadelphia is doing with Chris Pronger and what Boston is doing with Marc Savard.

So is Hossa glue then? Fuck.

I'm pretty sure Slak already has a Bollig sweater on order.

FYS!
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: BBM on October 10, 2013, 01:20:20 PM
BOWSTINK AND QUENSTINK ARE TERRIBLE MY FRENTS.  DEY WERE LUCKY IN 2010 AN THIRTEEN MY FRENTS.   JUS LIKE DICK JORON'S BEARS IN TWO TOUSAND MY FRENTS
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 29, 2013, 09:57:55 AM
Kneel before Saad (http://video.blackhawks.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=471235&catid=107).
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on October 29, 2013, 11:22:02 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 29, 2013, 09:57:55 AM
Kneel before Saad (http://video.blackhawks.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=471235&catid=107).

I hear the Islanders are VERY interested in trading for him.

Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 29, 2013, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 29, 2013, 11:22:02 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 29, 2013, 09:57:55 AM
Kneel before Saad (http://video.blackhawks.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=471235&catid=107).

I hear the Islanders are VERY interested in trading for him.



He's due to get his new paper the same time as Kane and Toews. He'll cost a tad more than his current $764K.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: BBM on November 02, 2013, 03:19:16 PM
FYS!
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Slaky on November 03, 2013, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: BBM on November 02, 2013, 03:19:16 PM
FYS!

Fuck all of you
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on November 03, 2013, 10:03:55 PM
Was re-reading bits of last season's Hawks thread and was reminded of this question...

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 30, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
Obviously this getting ahead of things a bit, particularly considering the Conference Final and potential Cup Final competition, but...

If the Hawks were to go on to win the 2013 Stanley Cup, Game 7 would overtake Game 5 in the annals of Blackhawk lore, right?
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on November 04, 2013, 08:42:20 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 03, 2013, 10:03:55 PM
Was re-reading bits of last season's Hawks thread and was reminded of this question...

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 30, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
Obviously this getting ahead of things a bit, particularly considering the Conference Final and potential Cup Final competition, but...

If the Hawks were to go on to win the 2013 Stanley Cup, Game 7 would overtake Game 5 in the annals of Blackhawk lore, right?

Well, right up until the Hawks scored twice in 17 seconds to beat the Bruins in Game 6, I'd have said yes.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 04, 2013, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 04, 2013, 08:42:20 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 03, 2013, 10:03:55 PM
Was re-reading bits of last season's Hawks thread and was reminded of this question...

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 30, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
Obviously this getting ahead of things a bit, particularly considering the Conference Final and potential Cup Final competition, but...

If the Hawks were to go on to win the 2013 Stanley Cup, Game 7 would overtake Game 5 in the annals of Blackhawk lore, right?

Well, right up until the Hawks scored twice in 17 seconds to beat the Bruins in Game 6, I'd have said yes.

I don't think Game 5 was ahead of Kane's OT winner in Game 6 of the 2010 Final anyway.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Slaky on November 05, 2013, 10:09:28 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 04, 2013, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: CT III on November 04, 2013, 08:42:20 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 03, 2013, 10:03:55 PM
Was re-reading bits of last season's Hawks thread and was reminded of this question...

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 30, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
Obviously this getting ahead of things a bit, particularly considering the Conference Final and potential Cup Final competition, but...

If the Hawks were to go on to win the 2013 Stanley Cup, Game 7 would overtake Game 5 in the annals of Blackhawk lore, right?

Well, right up until the Hawks scored twice in 17 seconds to beat the Bruins in Game 6, I'd have said yes.

I don't think Game 5 was ahead of Kane's OT winner in Game 6 of the 2010 Final anyway.

Game six of 2013 trumps the Nashville game, the Wings series, even the Flyers game six.

At least in my book.

I think game seven though, as evidenced by how many times I felt the need to write about it and that series, will go down as a massive moment in hawk lore. But Seabrook's goal felt more like relief than ecstasy. Game six was ecstasy.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 15, 2013, 07:17:35 AM
Hopefully next summer the engraver spells Versteeg right the first time.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on November 19, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
For sale: Rocky Wirtz's clear urine melted ice! (http://deadspin.com/the-blackhawks-are-selling-melted-ice-from-their-stanle-1467439466)
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 26, 2013, 09:09:27 AM
The new gigantic Canadian TV deal (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/cbc-partners-with-rogers-in-landmark-nhl-rights-deal-1.2440326) means a skyrocketing salary cap. Expect that within the next 5 years or so, it goes from the current $64 million to up near $80 million.

So the Bandstink will be kept together.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: BBM on December 06, 2013, 02:10:28 PM
BOWSTINK IS TERRIBLE.  KYLE BEECH IS DA NECKS DREW CAREY!
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 06, 2013, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: BBM on December 06, 2013, 02:10:28 PM
BOWSTINK IS TERRIBLE.  KYLE BEECH IS DA NECKS DREW CAREY!

Just another big bust from a small town trying to make it on Broadway.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Slaky on December 06, 2013, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 06, 2013, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: BBM on December 06, 2013, 02:10:28 PM
BOWSTINK IS TERRIBLE.  KYLE BEECH IS DA NECKS DREW CAREY!

Just another big bust from a small town trying to make it on Broadway.

Wrong thread
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 10, 2013, 10:19:07 AM
It's a good thing there was a lockout last season, so we wouldn't have to deal with those crazy $70 million salary caps (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=695203) any more.

But seriously - that $58 million salary floor is going to result in some ugly rosters by the smaller-market teams. Woof.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Gilgamesh on December 10, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:19:07 AM
It's a good thing there was a lockout last season, so we wouldn't have to deal with those crazy $70 million salary caps (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=695203) any more.

But seriously - that $58 million salary floor is going to result in some ugly rosters by the smaller-market teams. Woof.

Maybe now is the time for some team to give Alexei Zhamnov that 10 year, 100 million dollar contract he's long deserved!!
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on December 10, 2013, 10:36:07 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 10, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:19:07 AM
It's a good thing there was a lockout last season, so we wouldn't have to deal with those crazy $70 million salary caps (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=695203) any more.

But seriously - that $58 million salary floor is going to result in some ugly rosters by the smaller-market teams. Woof.

Maybe now is the time for some team to give Alexei Zhamnov that 10 year, 100 million dollar contract he's long deserved!!

Has he ever played in goal?
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on December 31, 2013, 12:12:11 PM
Dion Phaneuf signed an extension with Toronto for 7 years/$49 million. a cap hit of almost $1.5MM/year more than Duncan Keith.

Stan Bowman is a fucking wizard.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on January 07, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 31, 2013, 12:12:11 PM
Non-Olympian Dion Phaneuf signed an extension with Toronto for 7 years/$49 million. a cap hit of almost $1.5MM/year more than 2 time Olympian Duncan Keith.

Stan Bowman is a fucking wizard.

Blackhawks going to Sochi:

USA - Kane
Slovakia - Handzus, Hossa
Czech Republic - Roszival
Sweden - Hjalmarsson, Kruger, Oduya
Canada - Keith, Sharp, Toews


Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on January 07, 2014, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 07, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 31, 2013, 12:12:11 PM
Non-Olympian Dion Phaneuf signed an extension with Toronto for 7 years/$49 million. a cap hit of almost $1.5MM/year more than 2 time Olympian Duncan Keith.

Stan Bowman is a fucking wizard.

Blackhawks going to Sochi:

USA - Kane
Slovakia - Handzus, Hossa
Czech Republic - Roszival
Sweden - Hjalmarsson, Kruger, Oduya
Canada - Keith, Sharp, Toews
WTF, Blackhawks? WE WANT 'MERICANS ON OUR HOCKEYTEAM!!!!
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Tonker on January 07, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 07, 2014, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 07, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 31, 2013, 12:12:11 PM
Non-Olympian Dion Phaneuf signed an extension with Toronto for 7 years/$49 million. a cap hit of almost $1.5MM/year more than 2 time Olympian Duncan Keith.

Stan Bowman is a fucking wizard.

Blackhawks going to Sochi:

USA - Kane
Slovakia - Handzus, Hossa
Czech Republic - Roszival
Sweden - Hjalmarsson, Kruger, Oduya
Canada - Keith, Sharp, Toews
WTF, Blackhawks? WE WANT 'MERICANS ON OUR HOCKEYTEAM!!!!

I had no idea that Tervs and Sharp were Canadonian.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on January 07, 2014, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: Tonker on January 07, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Quote
Canada - Keith, Sharp, Toews

I had no idea that Tervs and Sharp were Canadonian.

This is more Canada than you can handle.

(http://fishingblah.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Toews-044low-res.jpg)
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on January 07, 2014, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 07, 2014, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: Tonker on January 07, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Quote
Canada - Keith, Sharp, Toews

I had no idea that Tervs and Sharp were Canadonian.

This is more Canada than you can handle.

(http://fishingblah.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Toews-044low-res.jpg)

Nice QUOTEPANK
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on January 07, 2014, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 07, 2014, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 07, 2014, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: Tonker on January 07, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Quote
Canada - Keith, Sharp, Toews

I had no idea that Tervs and Sharp were Canadonian.

This is more Canada than you can handle.

(http://fishingblah.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Toews-044low-res.jpg)

Nice QUOTEPANK
It was also more Canada than I could handle.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Slaky on January 07, 2014, 08:34:42 PM
I'm in Canada now and turns out I can not handle any Canada
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on January 08, 2014, 09:01:07 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 07, 2014, 08:34:42 PM
I'm in Canada now and turns out I can not handle any Canada

Goin' out for a rip, are ya bud?
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on March 05, 2014, 02:22:57 PM
DPD.

Mike Gillis is the best thing ever.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 18, 2014, 02:11:15 AM
St. Louis is the worst. Time to come storming back from that nutpunch (or nutgrab if you're Q).
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on April 18, 2014, 08:54:24 AM
Tough loss, but not much of a nut punch.  All it took for the Blues to win was 2 full overtimes, an otherworldly performance from Ryan Miller (after the 1st period) and Maxim LaPenisloaf making the only decent hockey-related play of his entire life. 
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 18, 2014, 11:55:50 PM
Quote from: CT III on April 18, 2014, 08:54:24 AM
Tough loss, but not much of a nut punch.  All it took for the Blues to win was 2 full overtimes, an otherworldly performance from Ryan Miller (after the 1st period) and Maxim LaPenisloaf making the only decent hockey-related play of his entire life. 

Not to mention, they completely horsed the Hawks in Corsi and Fenwick. That won't continue.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on April 25, 2014, 10:12:22 PM
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Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on April 26, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
Congrats to our own Slaky, who has made the big time: Getting crapped by a caller on B&B's signature segment. (http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d1/d5/d6/d5/dL/1565L_4.MP3)  Skip to 6:43.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on April 27, 2014, 10:56:03 PM
12 - so long to Ken Hitchcock and his merry turdpile of miscreants.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 28, 2014, 08:43:31 AM
Quote from: CT III on April 27, 2014, 10:56:03 PM
12 - so long to Ken Hitchcock and his merry turdpile of miscreants.

Will the Blues being left without a goalie this summer be better or worse than watching them piss away another 2-0 series lead?
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: InternetApex on April 28, 2014, 08:48:24 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 28, 2014, 08:43:31 AM
Quote from: CT III on April 27, 2014, 10:56:03 PM
12 - so long to Ken Hitchcock and his merry turdpile of miscreants.

Will the Blues being left without a goalie this summer be better or worse than watching them piss away another 2-0 series lead?

Yes.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 02, 2014, 12:04:20 PM

Blackhawks engaging in statfaggotry (http://deadspin.com/the-blackhawks-use-advanced-analytics-shouldnt-your-te-1570839139).
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 02, 2014, 11:27:17 PM
That first Kane goal was a thing of beauty.  Go Hawks.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 06, 2014, 10:58:04 PM
(http://i.imgbox.com/1ACaCplH.gif)
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 14, 2014, 12:47:23 AM
11, 10, 9, 8
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 18, 2014, 05:03:59 PM
Se7en.

(http://i.minus.com/iGiRepoLI8jMu.gif)
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on May 19, 2014, 08:56:27 AM
I could watch that all day.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: morpheus on May 19, 2014, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 18, 2014, 05:03:59 PM
Se7en.

(http://i.minus.com/iGiRepoLI8jMu.gif)

DOWN GOES BROWN!
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 19, 2014, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: morpheus on May 19, 2014, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 18, 2014, 05:03:59 PM
Se7en.

(http://i.minus.com/iGiRepoLI8jMu.gif)

DOWN GOES BROWN!

Marian Hossa is Hockey's Lemmy.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: CT III on May 28, 2014, 11:14:49 PM
Jeebus Christ.

6
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 30, 2014, 10:44:34 PM
Five.

(Breathe. Never forget to breathe.)
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 31, 2014, 07:59:53 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 30, 2014, 10:44:34 PM
Five.

(Breathe. Never forget to breathe.)

If you breathe in NY you just huffed the fumes of the Rangers after they shit themselves realizing they have to play one of these teams.
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2014, 09:57:25 PM
Wash, rinse, repeat.

(http://i.imgur.com/XpFcpM0.jpg)
Title: Re: Getting The Bandstink Back Together—Blackhawks 2013-?? Dynastink Thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 01, 2014, 10:20:58 PM
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