Smilin' Rick got his first win. 59 more where that came from.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 03, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
Smilin' Rick got his first win. 59 76 more where that came from.
According to me'd.
I'm not mad at this team so far. They competed in all three games and didn't do a lot of horrible, dumb shit. I think they're going to hold my attention until the NBA playoffs start, which is more than I'd hoped for.
Quote from: InternetApex on April 03, 2014, 02:51:39 PM
I'm not mad at this team so far. They competed in all three games and didn't do a lot of horrible, dumb shit. I think they're going to hold my attention until the NBA playoffs start, which is more than I'd hoped for.
I tend to be distracted by any kind of a shiny object.
Come on, Jose Veras. The Cubs can't trade you to a good team if you insist on being terrible.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2014, 04:36:41 PM
Come on, Jose Veras. The Cubs can't trade you to a good team if you insist on being terrible.
I switched the game off when he walked Gwynn. I figured either the Cubs would win the game, or they wouldn't: either way, there was nothing to be gained by watching further.
By the way, was it just me, or was the ball moving around a lot yesterday? It might be a new camera angle, or maybe it's just because I haven't watched baseball for about eleven months, but the ball seemed to be doing a lot out there, which kind of surprised me because it was so cold. Schlitter (has anybody seen him and Slak in the same room together, by the way?) in particular was really making it jump around, or so it seemed.
Quote from: Tonker on April 07, 2014, 03:42:01 AM
I figured either the Cubs would win the game, or they wouldn't
(http://i.imgur.com/6nZVXr3.jpg)
Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2014, 07:02:14 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 07, 2014, 03:42:01 AM
I figured either the Cubs would win the game, or they wouldn't
(http://i.imgur.com/6nZVXr3.jpg)
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/jbdiablo/F93BEBA9-80E5-4111-A93E-E9442AC41516_zpsejs0ujbu.jpg)
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2014, 07:02:14 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 07, 2014, 03:42:01 AM
I figured either the Cubs would win the game, or they wouldn't
(http://i.imgur.com/6nZVXr3.jpg)
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/jbdiablo/F93BEBA9-80E5-4111-A93E-E9442AC41516_zpsejs0ujbu.jpg)
Outstanding.
Quote from: Tonker on April 07, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2014, 07:02:14 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 07, 2014, 03:42:01 AM
I figured either the Cubs would win the game, or they wouldn't
(http://i.imgur.com/6nZVXr3.jpg)
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/jbdiablo/F93BEBA9-80E5-4111-A93E-E9442AC41516_zpsejs0ujbu.jpg)
Outstanding.
I laughed as well.
Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2014, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 07, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 07, 2014, 07:02:14 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 07, 2014, 03:42:01 AM
I figured either the Cubs would win the game, or they wouldn't
(http://i.imgur.com/6nZVXr3.jpg)
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/jbdiablo/F93BEBA9-80E5-4111-A93E-E9442AC41516_zpsejs0ujbu.jpg)
Outstanding.
I laughed as well.
I just Metralol'd.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT, PEOPLE?!?!
Having pitched for Houston last year, Jose Veras clearly isn't used to the high stakes of Chicago Cubs baseball.
Three-run bomb off the Turdbirds' closer in extra innings BONERTIME.
Carlos Villanueva is not a good pitcher.
Another sterling effort from the bullpen today. Go Cubes!
Jack Strop is not a good pitcher
Speaking of the 2015 Cubs, you can hear them on WBBM (http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cubs-leaving-wgn-after-making-radio-deal-cbs) next season, and when the Score's deal with the Shite Sox is up at the end of that year, they might end up on 670 for 2016. Just in time for Baez and Bryant to alternate NL MVP awards for the next 15 years.
One morning in 1953, about this time of year, I woke up to learn from the morning paper that the Cubs sent 6 players, or 24% of its roster, plus $150,000, to the Pittsburg Pirates in exchange for 4 players. I had no particular attachment to the 6 players, and certainly not to the $150,000, so it was kind of exciting to get 4 new faces all at once, especially since one of them was Ralph Kiner. In the long run it made no difference. With our luck we will learn one morning that the Cubs put together a package of four prospects, Baez, Bryant, Soler, and Almora, plus $15,000,000, and shipped them off to Tampa Bay for 6 "proven" veterans.
Quote from: CBStew on June 04, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
One morning in 1953, about this time of year, I woke up to learn from the morning paper that the Cubs sent 6 players, or 24% of its roster, plus $150,000, to the Pittsburg Pirates in exchange for 4 players. I had no particular attachment to the 6 players, and certainly not to the $150,000, so it was kind of exciting to get 4 new faces all at once, especially since one of them was Ralph Kiner. In the long run it made no difference. With our luck we will learn one morning that the Cubs put together a package of four prospects, Baez, Bryant, Soler, and Almora, plus $15,000,000, and shipped them off to Tampa Bay for 6 "proven" veterans.
Yeah, probably not though.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 04, 2014, 02:05:47 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 04, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
One morning in 1953, about this time of year, I woke up to learn from the morning paper that the Cubs sent 6 players, or 24% of its roster, plus $150,000, to the Pittsburg Pirates in exchange for 4 players. I had no particular attachment to the 6 players, and certainly not to the $150,000, so it was kind of exciting to get 4 new faces all at once, especially since one of them was Ralph Kiner. In the long run it made no difference. With our luck we will learn one morning that the Cubs put together a package of four prospects, Baez, Bryant, Soler, and Almora, plus $15,000,000, and shipped them off to Tampa Bay for 6 "proven" veterans.
Yeah, probably not though.
Longoria, Price, Zobrist, Jennings, Cobb and Chris Archer (righting that wrong). Make it happen Jepstink.
Quote from: Eli on June 04, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 04, 2014, 02:05:47 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 04, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
One morning in 1953, about this time of year, I woke up to learn from the morning paper that the Cubs sent 6 players, or 24% of its roster, plus $150,000, to the Pittsburg Pirates in exchange for 4 players. I had no particular attachment to the 6 players, and certainly not to the $150,000, so it was kind of exciting to get 4 new faces all at once, especially since one of them was Ralph Kiner. In the long run it made no difference. With our luck we will learn one morning that the Cubs put together a package of four prospects, Baez, Bryant, Soler, and Almora, plus $15,000,000, and shipped them off to Tampa Bay for 6 "proven" veterans.
Yeah, probably not though.
Longoria, Price, Zobrist, Jennings, Cobb and Chris Archer (righting that wrong). Make it happen Jepstink.
I'm not signing off on that without Hak-Ju Lee.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 04, 2014, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 04, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 04, 2014, 02:05:47 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 04, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
One morning in 1953, about this time of year, I woke up to learn from the morning paper that the Cubs sent 6 players, or 24% of its roster, plus $150,000, to the Pittsburg Pirates in exchange for 4 players. I had no particular attachment to the 6 players, and certainly not to the $150,000, so it was kind of exciting to get 4 new faces all at once, especially since one of them was Ralph Kiner. In the long run it made no difference. With our luck we will learn one morning that the Cubs put together a package of four prospects, Baez, Bryant, Soler, and Almora, plus $15,000,000, and shipped them off to Tampa Bay for 6 "proven" veterans.
Yeah, probably not though.
Longoria, Price, Zobrist, Jennings, Cobb and Chris Archer (righting that wrong). Make it happen Jepstink.
I'm not signing off on that without Hak-Ju Lee.
And Dewayne Staats. For the growler innings.
Quote from: Eli on June 04, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 04, 2014, 02:05:47 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 04, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
One morning in 1953, about this time of year, I woke up to learn from the morning paper that the Cubs sent 6 players, or 24% of its roster, plus $150,000, to the Pittsburg Pirates in exchange for 4 players. I had no particular attachment to the 6 players, and certainly not to the $150,000, so it was kind of exciting to get 4 new faces all at once, especially since one of them was Ralph Kiner. In the long run it made no difference. With our luck we will learn one morning that the Cubs put together a package of four prospects, Baez, Bryant, Soler, and Almora, plus $15,000,000, and shipped them off to Tampa Bay for 6 "proven" veterans.
Yeah, probably not though.
Longoria, Price, Zobrist, Jennings Myers, Cobb and Chris Archer (righting that wrong). Make it happen Jepstink.
If I had to pick one'd
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 04, 2014, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 04, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 04, 2014, 02:05:47 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 04, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
One morning in 1953, about this time of year, I woke up to learn from the morning paper that the Cubs sent 6 players, or 24% of its roster, plus $150,000, to the Pittsburg Pirates in exchange for 4 players. I had no particular attachment to the 6 players, and certainly not to the $150,000, so it was kind of exciting to get 4 new faces all at once, especially since one of them was Ralph Kiner. In the long run it made no difference. With our luck we will learn one morning that the Cubs put together a package of four prospects, Baez, Bryant, Soler, and Almora, plus $15,000,000, and shipped them off to Tampa Bay for 6 "proven" veterans.
Yeah, probably not though.
Longoria, Price, Zobrist, Jennings Myers, Cobb and Chris Archer (righting that wrong). Make it happen Jepstink.
If I had to pick one'd
Well, I didn't want to be
unreasonable.
Quote from: CBStew on April 23, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Jack Strop is not a good pitcher
Jacques Strop is not a good pitcher
Quote from: CBStew on June 08, 2014, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on April 23, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Jack Strop is not a good pitcher
Jacques Strop is not a good pitcher
Edwin Jackson isn't either. Too bad his contract isn't DFA-able, tradable, or any other useful 'able.'
All he's doing is preventing Rusin or someone else from facing big league hitters every 5th day. (But I guess he's helping with next year's draft pick so there's that.)
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 10, 2014, 01:18:23 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 08, 2014, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on April 23, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Jack Strop is not a good pitcher
Jacques Strop is not a good pitcher
Edwin Jackson isn't either. Too bad his contract isn't DFA-able, tradable, or any other useful 'able.'
All he's doing is preventing Rusin or someone else from facing big league hitters every 5th day. (But I guess he's helping with next year's draft pick so there's that.)
Whenever you get a chance to put Chris Damn Rusin in your rotation, you do it.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 10, 2014, 01:18:23 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 08, 2014, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on April 23, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Jack Strop is not a good pitcher
Jacques Strop is not a good pitcher
Edwin Jackson isn't either. Too bad his contract isn't DFA-able, tradable, or any other useful 'able.'
All he's doing is preventing Rusin or someone else from facing big league hitters every 5th day. (But I guess he's helping with next year's draft pick so there's that.)
I can't believe someone thinks this.
Cy Rusin
White Rusin
(http://becomingcollegevegan.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/the-dude-with-a-white-russian.jpg?w=487)
Jameis Rusin.
And by all means, do start the odometer on any young pitcher you currently have interest in past this season because...
Quote from: InternetApex on June 10, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
And by all means, do start the odometer on any young pitcher you currently have interest in past this season because...
http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/ (http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/) *
*Sorry I forgot how to hyperlink stuff here.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 10, 2014, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 10, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
And by all means, do start the odometer on any young pitcher you currently have interest in past this season because...
http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/ (http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/) *
*Sorry I forgot how to hyperlink stuff here.
Another J Baez? Hopefully that guy isn't nightblind, too.
I can only assume Eloy and Gleybar are going to AA or something.
a Chris Rusin superfan? Good god.
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 11:02:31 AM
a Chris Rusin superfan? Good god.
I'm guessing Brooks Raley was already taken.
Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 10, 2014, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 10, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
And by all means, do start the odometer on any young pitcher you currently have interest in past this season because...
http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/ (http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/) *
*Sorry I forgot how to hyperlink stuff here.
Another J Baez? Hopefully that guy isn't nightblind, too.
I can only assume Eloy and Gleybar are going to AA or something.
I can't tell if this is snark or not, but Eloy and Gleybar are currently hanging out with Manny in the Arizona Instructional League.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpVP00IIcAAPeiS.jpg)
Word is that they're supposed to make their way to the Dominican Summer League (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=609) shortly.
Also worth noting that Eloy is fucking enormous, and he's only 17 years old.
For reference, Manny is 6'0, 225.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2014, 12:20:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 10, 2014, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 10, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
And by all means, do start the odometer on any young pitcher you currently have interest in past this season because...
http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/ (http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/) *
*Sorry I forgot how to hyperlink stuff here.
Another J Baez? Hopefully that guy isn't nightblind, too.
I can only assume Eloy and Gleybar are going to AA or something.
I can't tell if this is snark or not, but Eloy and Gleybar are currently hanging out with Manny in Arizona Instructional League.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpVP00IIcAAPeiS.jpg
Word is that they're supposed to make their way to the Dominican Summer League (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=609) shortly.
Also worth noting that Eloy is fucking enormous, and he's only 17 years old.
For reference, Manny is 6'0, 225.
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2014, 12:20:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 10, 2014, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 10, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
And by all means, do start the odometer on any young pitcher you currently have interest in past this season because...
http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/ (http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/06/09/2014-low-a-boise-hawks-opening-day-roster-released/) *
*Sorry I forgot how to hyperlink stuff here.
Another J Baez? Hopefully that guy isn't nightblind, too.
I can only assume Eloy and Gleybar are going to AA or something.
I can't tell if this is snark or not, but Eloy and Gleybar are currently hanging out with Manny in Arizona Instructional League.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpVP00IIcAAPeiS.jpg
Word is that they're supposed to make their way to the Dominican Summer League (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=609) shortly.
Also worth noting that Eloy is fucking enormous, and he's only 17 years old.
For reference, Manny is 6'0, 225.
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
Call me crazy but I'm still rooting for a Manny appearance on the 25-man this season (if he can still play). Why the hell not.
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard
not to think it
isn't going to..."
[
grabs pen and graph paper ]
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 10, 2014, 12:24:54 PM
Why the hell not.
Maybe the twenty or thirty times Theo made sure to emphasize in the original announcement that this wasn't on the table?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:26:18 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 10, 2014, 12:24:54 PM
Why the hell not.
Maybe the twenty or thirty times Theo made sure to emphasize in the original announcement that this wasn't on the table?
Quote from: Epstink
"While Manny is not and will not be a fit on the Cubs major league roster, we do think at this stage of his life he's a nice fit as a mentor for some of the young talented hitters we have in the organization. Manny will coach full-time and play part-time in a limited role that does not take at-bats away from our prospects. If he shows there is still some magic in his bat, perhaps he will find his way to the major leagues and help another team, but that is not why he is here. We are thrilled that he wants to work with our young hitters and make a difference."
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend
what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
At 54 minutes past the mid-day point, on the 10th day of June in the year of our Lord, Two Thousand and Fourteen, Huey defended Thrill's "pedandticness."
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
At 54 minutes past the mid-day point, on the 10th day of June in the year of our lord Two Thousand and Fourteen, Huey defending Thrill's "pedandticness."
Has the world gone topsy-turvey?
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
Fuck off
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
At 54 minutes past the mid-day point, on the 10th day of June in the year of our lord Two Thousand and Fourteen, Huey defending Thrill's "pedandticness."
Has the world gone topsy-turvey?
(http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/c0eeb24b38c2e55b96968ef86a888fa823.png)
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
Fuck off
You forgot a period.
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
Fuck off
You forgot a period.
I loled.
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
The part about these kids idolizing the shit out of Manny makes me think Slak is mildly positiving the Manny Experience. But it's hard to be sure.
Manny Not Not Being Manny.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 01:16:35 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
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Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
The part about these kids idolizing the shit out of Manny makes me think Slak is mildly positiving the Manny Experience. But it's hard to be sure.
Fuck off
I'd just like to add that it's nice seeing Manny in a Cubs uniform, even if he is old and fattish and merely a coach...
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 01:18:51 PM
I'd just like to add that it's nice seeing Manny in a Cubs uniform, even if he is old and fattish and merely a coach...
Yeah all of that is what I meant. Also the kids like it. Even haters and losers can see that.
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 01:20:16 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 01:18:51 PM
I'd just like to add that it's nice seeing Manny in a Cubs uniform, even if he is old and fattish and merely a coach...
Yeah all of that is what I meant. Also the kids like it. Even haters and losers can see that.
Hey I may be a hater and a loser but...what was that third thing?
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2014, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:26:18 PM
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Why the hell not.
Maybe the twenty or thirty times Theo made sure to emphasize in the original announcement that this wasn't on the table?
Quote from: Epstink
"While Manny is not and will not be a fit on the Cubs major league roster, we do think at this stage of his life he's a nice fit as a mentor for some of the young talented hitters we have in the organization. Manny will coach full-time and play part-time in a limited role that does not take at-bats away from our prospects. If he shows there is still some magic in his bat, perhaps he will find his way to the major leagues and help another team, but that is not why he is here. We are thrilled that he wants to work with our young hitters and make a difference."
I know what he said. I still want to see him called up after Schierzholtz is traded. Brett Jackson, Ryan Kalish, Matt Szczur, Josh Vitters, and Casper Wells are the current Iowa outfielders. No thanks.
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
So is somebody getting unfriended here by somebody or what?
Quote from: InternetApex on June 10, 2014, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 10, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
Hard not to think getting Manny to hang out down there for a bit and then in AAA isn't going to energize some of the kids who come in contact with him and probably idolized the shit out of him.
"Hard not to think it isn't going to..."
[ grabs pen and graph paper ]
Time to grammar
I don't think Thrill's being pedantic about grammar so much as he's (rightfully) being pedantic about clarity. Seems what you wrote may well be grammatically pure, just a little tough to comprehend what you were saying with the two negative clauses. I'm still not 100% sure if you were saying Manny would have a positive or negative effect on these lads.
So is somebody getting unfriended here by somebody or what?
I'm not sure, do you have any suspects?
[audience laughs and applauds wildly]
I think the whole Manny thing is Epstink doing a guy who helped build his legend a solid. As Theo himself said,
"If he shows there is still some magic in his bat, perhaps he will find his way to the Major Leagues and help another team"
I had no idea about this, but it's true. Travis Wood is younger than Jake Arrieta by about a year. So, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 17, 2014, 07:21:50 AM
I had no idea about this, but it's true. Travis Wood is younger than Jake Arrieta by about a year. So, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
...and
Intrepid Reader Oleg perks up his ears.
I keep feeling like this is 1982 redux. There are a few guys here who aren't terrible, and there are other good guys on the way. They're still not world beaters, but they're making teams earn their wins a lot more. Let's see if later this season I see a guy I think is the Cubs' third baseman for the next 10 years. Although I doubt this time he'll wind up being a hall-of-fame second baseman.
This is the most fun I've had in a long time watching a losing team.
Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
I keep feeling like this is 1982 redux. There are a few guys here who aren't terrible, and there are other good guys on the way. They're still not world beaters, but they're making teams earn their wins a lot more. Let's see if later this season I see a guy I think is the Cubs' third baseman for the next 10 years. Although I doubt this time he'll wind up being a hall-of-fame second baseman.
This is the most fun I've had in a long time watching a losing team.
I'd be okay if Travis Wood took up centerfielding when he's not pitching.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 17, 2014, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
I keep feeling like this is 1982 redux. There are a few guys here who aren't terrible, and there are other good guys on the way. They're still not world beaters, but they're making teams earn their wins a lot more. Let's see if later this season I see a guy I think is the Cubs' third baseman for the next 10 years. Although I doubt this time he'll wind up being a hall-of-fame second baseman.
This is the most fun I've had in a long time watching a losing team.
I'd be okay if Travis Wood took up centerfielding when he's not pitching.
I hope Carlos Zambrano saw Wood's double last night and threw a brick through his TV.
Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 17, 2014, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
I keep feeling like this is 1982 redux. There are a few guys here who aren't terrible, and there are other good guys on the way. They're still not world beaters, but they're making teams earn their wins a lot more. Let's see if later this season I see a guy I think is the Cubs' third baseman for the next 10 years. Although I doubt this time he'll wind up being a hall-of-fame second baseman.
This is the most fun I've had in a long time watching a losing team.
I'd be okay if Travis Wood took up centerfielding when he's not pitching.
I hope Carlos Zambrano saw Wood's double last night and threw a brick through his TV.
Why would that anger him and why do you want him to be angry? Why do you hate Big Z's TV?
Quote from: InternetApex on June 17, 2014, 12:06:59 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 17, 2014, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
I keep feeling like this is 1982 redux. There are a few guys here who aren't terrible, and there are other good guys on the way. They're still not world beaters, but they're making teams earn their wins a lot more. Let's see if later this season I see a guy I think is the Cubs' third baseman for the next 10 years. Although I doubt this time he'll wind up being a hall-of-fame second baseman.
This is the most fun I've had in a long time watching a losing team.
I'd be okay if Travis Wood took up centerfielding when he's not pitching.
I hope Carlos Zambrano saw Wood's double last night and threw a brick through his TV.
Why would that anger him and why do you want him to be angry? Why do you hate Big Z's TV?
These are all good questions.
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
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Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
I keep feeling like this is 1982 redux. There are a few guys here who aren't terrible, and there are other good guys on the way. They're still not world beaters, but they're making teams earn their wins a lot more. Let's see if later this season I see a guy I think is the Cubs' third baseman for the next 10 years. Although I doubt this time he'll wind up being a hall-of-fame second baseman.
This is the most fun I've had in a long time watching a losing team.
I'd be okay if Travis Wood took up centerfielding when he's not pitching.
I hope Carlos Zambrano saw Wood's double last night and threw a brick through his TV.
Why would that anger him and why do you want him to be angry? Why do you hate Big Z's TV?
These are all good questions.
And the answer to all of them is...
TIME TO POST!
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Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
I keep feeling like this is 1982 redux. There are a few guys here who aren't terrible, and there are other good guys on the way. They're still not world beaters, but they're making teams earn their wins a lot more. Let's see if later this season I see a guy I think is the Cubs' third baseman for the next 10 years. Although I doubt this time he'll wind up being a hall-of-fame second baseman.
This is the most fun I've had in a long time watching a losing team.
I'd be okay if Travis Wood took up centerfielding when he's not pitching.
I hope Carlos Zambrano saw Wood's double last night and threw a brick through his TV.
Why would that anger him and why do you want him to be angry? Why do you hate Big Z's TV?
These are all good questions.
And the answer to all of them is...
TIME TO POST!
TMIE OT OPTS!
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Quote from: Fork on June 17, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
I keep feeling like this is 1982 redux. There are a few guys here who aren't terrible, and there are other good guys on the way. They're still not world beaters, but they're making teams earn their wins a lot more. Let's see if later this season I see a guy I think is the Cubs' third baseman for the next 10 years. Although I doubt this time he'll wind up being a hall-of-fame second baseman.
This is the most fun I've had in a long time watching a losing team.
I'd be okay if Travis Wood took up centerfielding when he's not pitching.
I hope Carlos Zambrano saw Wood's double last night and threw a brick through his TV.
Why would that anger him and why do you want him to be angry? Why do you hate Big Z's TV?
These are all good questions.
And the answer to all of them is...
TIME TO POST!
TMIE OT OPTS!
QED
This is the most Desipio-ey page ever.
I asked Fork what he meant in person last night and he said that because Zambrano struggled as a pinch hitter for the Cubs (2-for-28 lifetime in the most recent tally my arbitrary search turned up), that Wood coming through in the clutch would be sure to flame up Z's hemorrhoids.
Time it was to post.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 18, 2014, 10:11:44 AM
I asked Fork what he meant in person last night and he said that because Zambrano struggled as a pinch hitter for the Cubs (2-for-28 lifetime in the most recent tally my arbitrary search turned up), that Wood coming through in the clutch would be sure to flame up Z's hemorrhoids.
Time it was to post.
That's actually more sensible than I expected.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 18, 2014, 10:11:44 AM
I asked Fork what he meant in person last night and he said that because Zambrano struggled as a pinch hitter for the Cubs (2-for-28 lifetime in the most recent tally my arbitrary search turned up), that Wood coming through in the clutch would be sure to flame up Z's hemorrhoids.
Time it was to post.
Z's probably too busy watching soccer right now to care, dreaming of one day leading
la Vinotinto to World Cup qualification glory.
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
And his .321 BABIP doesn't seem unsustainably low, either. In fact, it seems a little high.
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
I was wondering the other day if he's been using his cutter after leaving the Orioles (they don't let pitchers throw them) and right on cue, Fangraphs addresses the topic (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-jake-arrieta-the-new-jesse-chavez/).
Maybe the new marketing inefficiency is finding guys from the Orioles and just letting them throw cutters.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 19, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
And his .321 BABIP doesn't seem unsustainably low, either. In fact, it seems a little high.
What stat represents how badly he's blocking Chris Rusin?
Quote from: Eli on June 19, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
I was wondering the other day if he's been using his cutter after leaving the Orioles (they don't let pitchers throw them) and right on cue, Fangraphs addresses the topic (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-jake-arrieta-the-new-jesse-chavez/).
Maybe the new marketing inefficiency is finding guys from the Orioles and just letting them throw cutters.
Uh... why?
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2014, 10:11:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 19, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
I was wondering the other day if he's been using his cutter after leaving the Orioles (they don't let pitchers throw them) and right on cue, Fangraphs addresses the topic (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-jake-arrieta-the-new-jesse-chavez/).
Maybe the new marketing inefficiency is finding guys from the Orioles and just letting them throw cutters.
Uh... why?
Dan Duquette thinks they're ineffective and cause arm injuries.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 19, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
And his .321 BABIP doesn't seem unsustainably low, either. In fact, it seems a little high.
I swaw that metric too, but I didn't quite know how to interpret it.
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2014, 10:11:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 19, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
I was wondering the other day if he's been using his cutter after leaving the Orioles (they don't let pitchers throw them) and right on cue, Fangraphs addresses the topic (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-jake-arrieta-the-new-jesse-chavez/).
Maybe the new marketing inefficiency is finding guys from the Orioles and just letting them throw cutters.
Uh... why?
http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2012/08/more-talk-about-the-pitch-the-orioles-dont-want-their-young-hurlers-to-throw.html
EDIT: The link above is to an interview with Orioles director of pitching development Rick Peterson. Some fascinating stuff in there about why they don't allow their pitchers to throw cutters. He also offers this:
QuoteSo this is less about any injury factor?
"Correct. This is much more performance related. In developing young starting pitchers, you want to, No. 1, develop a sound delivery that you can repeat consistently to execute quality pitches; No. 2, fastball location preferably at the bottom of the strike zone where the batting averages are at the .220 and below range; No. 3, to develop a quality changeup to control the head of the bat; lastly, to develop a breaking ball that has depth, either a curve or slider.
"Those are your primary foundation building blocks to build quality pitching throughout your organization. After you build that pitcher and he develops into a sound major league pitcher, the additon of a cutter can happen at some point. But it has to be monitored."
So Arietta's golden. Trade Snork for a bunch of their post-hype turds and let's go chammenship.
This just in: Jake Arrieta's cutter will drink the blood of Dan Duquette and Rick Peterson.
Quote from: Eli on June 19, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
I was wondering the other day if he's been using his cutter after leaving the Orioles (they don't let pitchers throw them) and right on cue, Fangraphs addresses the topic (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-jake-arrieta-the-new-jesse-chavez/).
Maybe the new marketing inefficiency is finding guys from the Orioles and just letting them throw cutters.
That's not entirely accurate. Duquette said that they don't teach the pitch -- not that it's forbidden from being thrown. In terms of CT/AllPitches, they've been 23rd in MLB since the comment was made.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 19, 2014, 10:27:30 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 19, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
I was wondering the other day if he's been using his cutter after leaving the Orioles (they don't let pitchers throw them) and right on cue, Fangraphs addresses the topic (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-jake-arrieta-the-new-jesse-chavez/).
Maybe the new marketing inefficiency is finding guys from the Orioles and just letting them throw cutters.
That's not entirely accurate. Duquette said that they don't teach the pitch -- not that it's forbidden from being thrown. In terms of CT/AllPitches, they've been 23rd in MLB since the comment was made.
SHUT UP CULLEN
Quote from: InternetApex on June 19, 2014, 10:17:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2014, 10:11:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 19, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
I was wondering the other day if he's been using his cutter after leaving the Orioles (they don't let pitchers throw them) and right on cue, Fangraphs addresses the topic (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-jake-arrieta-the-new-jesse-chavez/).
Maybe the new marketing inefficiency is finding guys from the Orioles and just letting them throw cutters.
Uh... why?
http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2012/08/more-talk-about-the-pitch-the-orioles-dont-want-their-young-hurlers-to-throw.html
EDIT: The link above is to an interview with Orioles director of pitching development Rick Peterson. Some fascinating stuff in there about why they don't allow their pitchers to throw cutters. He also offers this:
QuoteSo this is less about any injury factor?
"Correct. This is much more performance related. In developing young starting pitchers, you want to, No. 1, develop a sound delivery that you can repeat consistently to execute quality pitches; No. 2, fastball location preferably at the bottom of the strike zone where the batting averages are at the .220 and below range; No. 3, to develop a quality changeup to control the head of the bat; lastly, to develop a breaking ball that has depth, either a curve or slider.
"Those are your primary foundation building blocks to build quality pitching throughout your organization. After you build that pitcher and he develops into a sound major league pitcher, the additon of a cutter can happen at some point. But it has to be monitored."
So Arietta's golden. Trade Snork for a bunch of their post-hype turds and let's go chammenship.
QuoteI'm not saying the cutter is not a good pitch, don't misunderstand me. A cutter used effectively is a nice addition to your arsenal. But a cutter thrown 40 percent of the time for a young power pitcher can become a crutch, then your velocity drops and you fail to develop your changeup and a breaking ball that has depth to it.
Well that all seems reasonable. I was all excited about laughing at the crazy Orioles and their wacky pitching theories. Damn.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 10:17:22 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 19, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
A little love for Jake Arrieta this season? Just a lil 1.98 ERA (2.31 FIP), 55/15 K/BB (!!!), 1.200 WHIP. Getting teh ground balls and not walking people.
I'm sure there are new statfaggy stats for some other stuff he's doing well that I don't fully understand.
Yeah his FIP is also incredible. He's been ridiculously good.
And his .321 BABIP doesn't seem unsustainably low, either. In fact, it seems a little high.
I swaw that metric too, but I didn't quite know how to interpret it.
It's generally expected that a pitcher's BABIP will sit around the league average or, for pitchers with longer track records, the pitcher's career average.
The league average usually is generally around .300 (.298 so far in 2014) and Arrieta has a career BABIP of .291 in 459.2 MLB innings.
If his 2014 BABIP were considerably lower than these, we should be concerned that his low ERA and WHIP might be unsustainable. Instead, his BABIP is a bit
higher than average (Fangraphs says .321, Baseball Reference says .328—not sure why the discrepancy), meaning that, if anything, we should expect him to to benefit from
more outs on balls put in play than he has thus far.
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2014, 10:42:02 AM
QuoteI'm not saying the cutter is not a good pitch, don't misunderstand me. A cutter used effectively is a nice addition to your arsenal. But a cutter thrown 40 percent of the time for a young power pitcher can become a crutch, then your velocity drops and you fail to develop your changeup and a breaking ball that has depth to it.
Well that all seems reasonable. I was all excited about laughing at the crazy Orioles and their wacky pitching theories. Damn.
Linked from the Fangraphs post Eli linked... (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/do-cutters-kill-fastball-velocity/)
QuoteBut hidden within what Duquette said, and what Rick Peterson said afterwards (http://www.masnsports.com/steve_melewski/2012/08/more-talk-about-the-pitch-the-orioles-dont-want-their-young-hurlers-to-throw.html), is an idea that should be testable. Both Duquette and Peterson made reference to the fact that young pitchers that use the cutter too often adversely effect their fastball velocity.
Peterson was actually very upfront about the relationship he sees between young cutter usage and velocity drops: "a cutter thrown 40 percent of the time for a young power pitcher can become a crutch, then your velocity drops," he said in his followup to Duquette's on-field talk with Steve Melewski.
Let's see what we can find. Using the filters on our leaderboards, I put together a list of qualified starters that used the cutter more than 20% of the time in any given season since 2002. There are precious few veterans that throw the pitch 40% of the time, and it seems folly to make any assumptions based solely on Andy Sonnanstine, Dan Haren, Roy Halladay, Miguel Batista and Jesse Litsch. Since we have two classification methods on our site, I repeated the filter with the 20% cutter threshold for both BIS and PITCHf/x classifications.
The result was a list of 40 pitchers that became our sample. Pitchers that appeared on the list multiple times included Andy Pettitte, Chad Billingsley, Dan Haren, Doug Davis, John Danks, Jon Lester, Mark Buehrle, Mike Leake and Roy Halladay among others. Jeff Zimmerman was so kind as to run an aging curve on the sample:
(http://i.imgur.com/5qBfwtj.jpg)
Well, it certainly doesn't look like cutters, as a monolithic group, lead to fastball velocity drop. But there are a few caveats buried beneath what look like damning results.
Not one of these pitchers threw in their age 21 season. And if you scan the names above, you'll see some late-bloomers on the list. There might be something to the fact, as Peterson says, that "the cutter is a pitch that typically is thrown later on in your career, often after you've been in the big leagues several years." Unfortunately, this isn't something that's easily test-able. Our big league stats on this go back to 2002, and minor league PITCHf/x stats are not readily available. It passes the sniff test, but then again, it still doesn't explain why these pitchers didn't see the velocity loss Peterson predicts.
...
There's little evidence of accelerated velocity loss among the veterans that use either form of the cutter. There is still a chance that the pitch isn't good for the development of a young pitcher — certainly the Orioles are not alone in that opinion — and that the veterans that have turned to the pitch are better prepared, and therefore avoid velocity loss.
But then the question becomes when a prospect is ready for the pitch. The Royals ban it before Double-A. The Orioles seem to want to avoid the pitch until the major leagues. Other teams have similar philosophies. Maybe there's an age at which a pitcher can turn to the pitch without consequence as a fully-formed adult. Maybe we haven't seen the pitchers that turned to the cutter too young because they lost too much velocity and never made it to the big leagues.
Or maybe the pitch doesn't actually lead to velocity loss.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 19, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2014, 10:42:02 AM
QuoteI'm not saying the cutter is not a good pitch, don't misunderstand me. A cutter used effectively is a nice addition to your arsenal. But a cutter thrown 40 percent of the time for a young power pitcher can become a crutch, then your velocity drops and you fail to develop your changeup and a breaking ball that has depth to it.
Well that all seems reasonable. I was all excited about laughing at the crazy Orioles and their wacky pitching theories. Damn.
Linked from the Fangraphs post Eli linked... (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/do-cutters-kill-fastball-velocity/)
QuoteBut hidden within what Duquette said, and what Rick Peterson said afterwards (http://www.masnsports.com/steve_melewski/2012/08/more-talk-about-the-pitch-the-orioles-dont-want-their-young-hurlers-to-throw.html), is an idea that should be testable. Both Duquette and Peterson made reference to the fact that young pitchers that use the cutter too often adversely effect their fastball velocity.
Peterson was actually very upfront about the relationship he sees between young cutter usage and velocity drops: "a cutter thrown 40 percent of the time for a young power pitcher can become a crutch, then your velocity drops," he said in his followup to Duquette's on-field talk with Steve Melewski.
Let's see what we can find. Using the filters on our leaderboards, I put together a list of qualified starters that used the cutter more than 20% of the time in any given season since 2002. There are precious few veterans that throw the pitch 40% of the time, and it seems folly to make any assumptions based solely on Andy Sonnanstine, Dan Haren, Roy Halladay, Miguel Batista and Jesse Litsch. Since we have two classification methods on our site, I repeated the filter with the 20% cutter threshold for both BIS and PITCHf/x classifications.
The result was a list of 40 pitchers that became our sample. Pitchers that appeared on the list multiple times included Andy Pettitte, Chad Billingsley, Dan Haren, Doug Davis, John Danks, Jon Lester, Mark Buehrle, Mike Leake and Roy Halladay among others. Jeff Zimmerman was so kind as to run an aging curve on the sample:
(http://i.imgur.com/5qBfwtj.jpg)
Well, it certainly doesn't look like cutters, as a monolithic group, lead to fastball velocity drop. But there are a few caveats buried beneath what look like damning results.
Not one of these pitchers threw in their age 21 season. And if you scan the names above, you'll see some late-bloomers on the list. There might be something to the fact, as Peterson says, that "the cutter is a pitch that typically is thrown later on in your career, often after you've been in the big leagues several years." Unfortunately, this isn't something that's easily test-able. Our big league stats on this go back to 2002, and minor league PITCHf/x stats are not readily available. It passes the sniff test, but then again, it still doesn't explain why these pitchers didn't see the velocity loss Peterson predicts.
...
There's little evidence of accelerated velocity loss among the veterans that use either form of the cutter. There is still a chance that the pitch isn't good for the development of a young pitcher — certainly the Orioles are not alone in that opinion — and that the veterans that have turned to the pitch are better prepared, and therefore avoid velocity loss.
But then the question becomes when a prospect is ready for the pitch. The Royals ban it before Double-A. The Orioles seem to want to avoid the pitch until the major leagues. Other teams have similar philosophies. Maybe there's an age at which a pitcher can turn to the pitch without consequence as a fully-formed adult. Maybe we haven't seen the pitchers that turned to the cutter too young because they lost too much velocity and never made it to the big leagues.
Or maybe the pitch doesn't actually lead to velocity loss.
I think that the title of that graph is fascinating. "Fastball Aging Curve". There is a message lurking there, trying to get out.
Christian Villanueva has been sent to AA.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 19, 2014, 02:52:30 PM
Christian Villanueva has been sent to AA.
MODS!! (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8211.msg258371#msg258371)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 19, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2014, 10:42:02 AM
QuoteI'm not saying the cutter is not a good pitch, don't misunderstand me. A cutter used effectively is a nice addition to your arsenal. But a cutter thrown 40 percent of the time for a young power pitcher can become a crutch, then your velocity drops and you fail to develop your changeup and a breaking ball that has depth to it.
Well that all seems reasonable. I was all excited about laughing at the crazy Orioles and their wacky pitching theories. Damn.
Linked from the Fangraphs post Eli linked... (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/do-cutters-kill-fastball-velocity/)
QuoteBut hidden within what Duquette said, and what Rick Peterson said afterwards (http://www.masnsports.com/steve_melewski/2012/08/more-talk-about-the-pitch-the-orioles-dont-want-their-young-hurlers-to-throw.html), is an idea that should be testable. Both Duquette and Peterson made reference to the fact that young pitchers that use the cutter too often adversely effect their fastball velocity.
Peterson was actually very upfront about the relationship he sees between young cutter usage and velocity drops: "a cutter thrown 40 percent of the time for a young power pitcher can become a crutch, then your velocity drops," he said in his followup to Duquette's on-field talk with Steve Melewski.
Let's see what we can find. Using the filters on our leaderboards, I put together a list of qualified starters that used the cutter more than 20% of the time in any given season since 2002. There are precious few veterans that throw the pitch 40% of the time, and it seems folly to make any assumptions based solely on Andy Sonnanstine, Dan Haren, Roy Halladay, Miguel Batista and Jesse Litsch. Since we have two classification methods on our site, I repeated the filter with the 20% cutter threshold for both BIS and PITCHf/x classifications.
The result was a list of 40 pitchers that became our sample. Pitchers that appeared on the list multiple times included Andy Pettitte, Chad Billingsley, Dan Haren, Doug Davis, John Danks, Jon Lester, Mark Buehrle, Mike Leake and Roy Halladay among others. Jeff Zimmerman was so kind as to run an aging curve on the sample:
(http://i.imgur.com/5qBfwtj.jpg)
Well, it certainly doesn't look like cutters, as a monolithic group, lead to fastball velocity drop. But there are a few caveats buried beneath what look like damning results.
Not one of these pitchers threw in their age 21 season. And if you scan the names above, you'll see some late-bloomers on the list. There might be something to the fact, as Peterson says, that "the cutter is a pitch that typically is thrown later on in your career, often after you've been in the big leagues several years." Unfortunately, this isn't something that's easily test-able. Our big league stats on this go back to 2002, and minor league PITCHf/x stats are not readily available. It passes the sniff test, but then again, it still doesn't explain why these pitchers didn't see the velocity loss Peterson predicts.
...
There's little evidence of accelerated velocity loss among the veterans that use either form of the cutter. There is still a chance that the pitch isn't good for the development of a young pitcher — certainly the Orioles are not alone in that opinion — and that the veterans that have turned to the pitch are better prepared, and therefore avoid velocity loss.
But then the question becomes when a prospect is ready for the pitch. The Royals ban it before Double-A. The Orioles seem to want to avoid the pitch until the major leagues. Other teams have similar philosophies. Maybe there's an age at which a pitcher can turn to the pitch without consequence as a fully-formed adult. Maybe we haven't seen the pitchers that turned to the cutter too young because they lost too much velocity and never made it to the big leagues.
Or maybe the pitch doesn't actually lead to velocity loss.
I didn't think Peterson was saying that the cutter
caused fastball velocity to drop. I took him to mean that velocity declines over time for every pitcher, and if you've used the cutter as a "crutch" prior to that, you haven't developed a changeup or breaking ball.
Yes, that and the way it's thrown - with your hand on the side of the ball - decreases the velocity of the pitch. And the habit of throwing like that could lead to throwing the fastball the same way, which would make sense if the goal was to make all the pitches look the same coming out of the hand. That should be the goal anyway.
In that way, over time, as the fastball and cut fastball become increasingly similar in delivery, velocity could drop. You know, like, in golf if you learn a half-ass way to hit out of the sand, that works and you no longer blade the shit out of it or bury it into the side of the trap, even though it isn't the way to get the best result, you may keep doing it because... well, you don't know any better. Hitting that way might also work out of the rough. So bam. Now you're getting lower scores but aren't any good at golf. Before you know it you're 50 and don't have any retirement savings and your wife is fucking a hot black guy.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 20, 2014, 12:50:11 PM
Yes, that and the way it's thrown - with your hand on the side of the ball - decreases the velocity of the pitch. And the habit of throwing like that could lead to throwing the fastball the same way, which would make sense if the goal was to make all the pitches look the same coming out of the hand. That should be the goal anyway.
In that way, over time, as the fastball and cut fastball become increasingly similar in delivery, velocity could drop. You know, like, in golf if you learn a half-ass way to hit out of the sand, that works and you no longer blade the shit out of it or bury it into the side of the trap, even though it isn't the way to get the best result, you may keep doing it because... well, you don't know any better. Hitting that way might also work out of the rough. So bam. Now you're getting lower scores but aren't any good at golf. Before you know it you're 50 and don't have any retirement savings and your wife is fucking a hot black guy.
Bravo.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 20, 2014, 12:50:11 PM
Yes, that and the way it's thrown - with your hand on the side of the ball - decreases the velocity of the pitch. And the habit of throwing like that could lead to throwing the fastball the same way, which would make sense if the goal was to make all the pitches look the same coming out of the hand. That should be the goal anyway.
In that way, over time, as the fastball and cut fastball become increasingly similar in delivery, velocity could drop. You know, like, in golf if you learn a half-ass way to hit out of the sand, that works and you no longer blade the shit out of it or bury it into the side of the trap, even though it isn't the way to get the best result, you may keep doing it because... well, you don't know any better. Hitting that way might also work out of the rough. So bam. Now you're getting lower scores but aren't any good at golf. Before you know it you're 50 and don't have any retirement savings and your wife is fucking a hot black guy.
On the topic of velocity... Another season, another pitching guru poised to revolutionize the position if the stuffy old-timers in baseball would just let him. (http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/6/18/5818380/effective-velocity-pitching-theory-profile-perry-husband) With cameos from Tom House (of course) and ChuckD's employer.
And then this:
QuoteHe has a proponent in Derek Johnson, who as a collegiate coach at Vanderbilt utilized EV tenets to tutor pitchers who have gone on to big league success, including David Price and Mike Minor. Last season Johnson himself moved to the major leagues, becoming the minor league pitching coordinator for the Chicago Cubs.
From Bleacher Nation:
Travis Wood, who does not pitch this series, but could pinch-hit, has accumulated 0.7 WAR this year. On offense. That makes him the Cubs’ fifth most valuable hitter, despite having 36 – 36! – plate appearances.
I heart Travis Wood? Or do I hate the Cubs offense?
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
HIS UNIFORM WAS NOT DIRTY ENOUGH
Quote from: Bort on June 24, 2014, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
HIS UNIFORM WAS NOT DIRTY ENOUGH
Not a meatball
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
I thought it looked like he was even a little bit shaken up afterward. Might have landed on his belt or something or lost his wind or something.
Now you guys have yet another idea what it was like to play softball with Huard.
(http://i.imgur.com/c498z.jpg)
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
I thought it looked like he was even a little bit shaken up afterward. Might have landed on his belt or something or lost his wind or something.
Now you guys have yet another idea what it was like to play softball with Huard.
Anything less than a bone showing, and you're half-assing it.
Quote from: Fork on June 24, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
I thought it looked like he was even a little bit shaken up afterward. Might have landed on his belt or something or lost his wind or something.
Now you guys have yet another idea what it was like to play softball with Huard.
Anything less than a bone showing, and you're half-assing it.
Maybe Huard meant
Castillo should have sold out and dove for the wild pitch.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 24, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
I thought it looked like he was even a little bit shaken up afterward. Might have landed on his belt or something or lost his wind or something.
Now you guys have yet another idea what it was like to play softball with Huard.
Anything less than a bone showing, and you're half-assing it.
Maybe Huard meant Castillo should have sold out and dove for the wild pitch.
Unfortunately, no. (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/481272756730724355)
Quote from: Eli on June 24, 2014, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 24, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
I thought it looked like he was even a little bit shaken up afterward. Might have landed on his belt or something or lost his wind or something.
Now you guys have yet another idea what it was like to play softball with Huard.
Anything less than a bone showing, and you're half-assing it.
Maybe Huard meant Castillo should have sold out and dove for the wild pitch.
Unfortunately, no. (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/481272756730724355)
Oh, my god.
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 12:04:43 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 24, 2014, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 24, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 24, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 24, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
I thought it looked like he was even a little bit shaken up afterward. Might have landed on his belt or something or lost his wind or something.
Now you guys have yet another idea what it was like to play softball with Huard.
Anything less than a bone showing, and you're half-assing it.
Maybe Huard meant Castillo should have sold out and dove for the wild pitch.
Unfortunately, no. (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/481272756730724355)
Oh, my god.
That has to be the best thing from yesterday.
Related: https://twitter.com/huecub/status/481281208802742272
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
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I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
I thought it looked like he was even a little bit shaken up afterward. Might have landed on his belt or something or lost his wind or something.
Now you guys have yet another idea what it was like to play softball with Huard.
Anything less than a bone showing, and you're half-assing it.
Maybe Huard meant Castillo should have sold out and dove for the wild pitch.
Unfortunately, no. (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/481272756730724355)
Oh, my god.
I think a shorstop with an OPS+ of 119 and whose, what, 3rd at his position in WAR right now is worth his weight no matter how much effort he gave on a ground ball in the 8th inning on a team that's 12 games under .500. Hell I'd say he's worth more than his weight. He's worth my weight, even.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2014, 12:20:27 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
He lacks the mental wherewithal.
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2014, 12:20:27 PM
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
It's beyond the realm of comprehension.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
It's beyond the realm of comprehension mental wherewithal.
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I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
That.
Not my fault I was drunk and there's no replay board at Wrigley.
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I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
That.
Not my fault I was drunk and there's no replay board at Wrigley.
That's probably fair, given how your people lack the mental wherewithal to ever remain sober.
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
That.
Not my fault I was drunk and there's no replay board at Wrigley.
That's probably fair, given how your people lack the mental wherewithal to ever remain sober.
Aye, 'tis true.
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I actually got mad watching the ninth inning last night. I know it didn't matter and I know that Rondon was a victim of some crappy luck (three weakly hit singles) but the wild pitch and the uncontested steal really pissed me off. It's been literally years since I felt like that during a Cubs game. I found it interesting to know that I still give a shit sometimes.
I was annoyed Castro didn't sell out to at least knock the ball down, keep it in the infield, and keep the winning run from scoring with 2 outs in the 8th inning....which is really the 1 time you pretty much gotta do whatever you need to do to get in front of that ball. Disappointing.
Are you serious? He dove and got a glove on it.
Yeah, I don't get this. Not much more he could have done there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_23_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=33982483&tcid=vpp_copy_33982483
I thought it looked like he was even a little bit shaken up afterward. Might have landed on his belt or something or lost his wind or something.
Now you guys have yet another idea what it was like to play softball with Huard.
Anything less than a bone showing, and you're half-assing it.
Maybe Huard meant Castillo should have sold out and dove for the wild pitch.
Unfortunately, no. (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/481272756730724355)
Oh, my god.
I think a shorstop with an OPS+ of 119 and whose, what, 3rd at his position in WAR right now is worth his weight no matter how much effort he gave on a ground ball in the 8th inning on a team that's 12 games under .500. Hell I'd say he's worth more than his weight. He's worth my weight, even.
Easy, fatso. Let's not say anything we can't take back, eh?
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I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
That.
Not my fault I was drunk and there's no replay board at Wrigley.
Have you noticed, when Huey's drunk he spells correctly?
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I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
That.
Not my fault I was drunk and there's no replay board at Wrigley.
Have you noticed, when Huey's drunk he spells correctly?
I have.
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I guess I'll bring it up. Is Javi Baez going to play SS if and when he gets called up?
Let me rephrase that...I hear a good bit about the hitter that Baez is, but is he a good enough fielder to make the organization move Castro to 2B?
Castro's a better shortshop.
BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN KNOCK DOWN A BALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE
There's no way you can blame a player for not making a play on a dive attempt. I just don't see it. In what little Cubs games I've seen this year, I have gotten the impression that Castro has been less aloof than in the past. Is aloof the right word? Maybe he's a little more technical...I don't know. Just, not doofusy. There. That's perfect. Doofusy.
Bullshit. Tolleration.
Is doofusy the June 24th version of faggy now? I can't keep up.
Huey was being sarcastic about Castro getting that ball, right? Or he was at the game and thought it was an easier play than it really was? That's gotta be it. Maybe that's an easy play in Duffman, but down here in da city, notsomuch.
That.
Not my fault I was drunk and there's no replay board at Wrigley.
Have you noticed, when Huey's drunk he spells correctly?
I have.
You're drunk
now?
The Cubs are suing (http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/545/article/p2p-80851382/) the Billy Cub creeps for trademark infringement, among other claims. They want the costumes "delivered for destruction."
9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
Quote from: Fork on July 29, 2014, 07:13:04 AM
9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Japstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
1941'd
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
Stu Miller Pitched until he was 41. 3.24 ERA. 105-103 record. Fast ball around 53 mph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stu_Miller
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
Stu Miller Pitched until he was 41. 3.24 ERA. 105-103 record. Fast ball around 53 mph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stu_Miller
Wada looks like he has a better chance of staying on the mound on windy days.
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
A bunch of words and graphs and stats on Wada and why he probably sucks, but could be Jamie Moyer.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/7/29/5947059/tsuyoshi-wada-cubs-pitcher-pitching-backward
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Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2014, 07:29:38 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 29, 2014, 07:13:04 AM
9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
A bunch of words and graphs and stats on Wada and why he probably sucks, but could be Jamie Moyer.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/7/29/5947059/tsuyoshi-wada-cubs-pitcher-pitching-backward
Jamie Moyer had a shit ton of movement on all four of his pitches. Wada can't be serious with the stuff he's tossing up there. I bet his wife and girlfriends are hot though.
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Quote from: Fork on July 29, 2014, 07:13:04 AM
9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
A bunch of words and graphs and stats on Wada and why he probably sucks, but could be Jamie Moyer.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/7/29/5947059/tsuyoshi-wada-cubs-pitcher-pitching-backward
Jamie Moyer had a shit ton of movement on all four of his pitches. Wada can't be serious with the stuff he's tossing up there. I bet his wife and girlfriends are hot though.
His wife, Kasumi Nakane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasumi_Nakane), is actually pretty famous in those Asian places. I have no idea what "gravure idol" means, but I'm sure it involves very creepy Japanese men and young girls.
(http://www.kineda.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/103.jpg)
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
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Quote from: Fork on July 29, 2014, 07:13:04 AM
9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
A bunch of words and graphs and stats on Wada and why he probably sucks, but could be Jamie Moyer.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/7/29/5947059/tsuyoshi-wada-cubs-pitcher-pitching-backward
Jamie Moyer had a shit ton of movement on all four of his pitches. Wada can't be serious with the stuff he's tossing up there. I bet his wife and girlfriends are hot though.
His wife, Kasumi Nakane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasumi_Nakane), is actually pretty famous in those Asian places. I have no idea what "gravure idol" means, but I'm sure it involves very creepy Japanese men and young girls.
(http://www.kineda.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/103.jpg)
:golf clap:
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
A bunch of words and graphs and stats on Wada and why he probably sucks, but could be Jamie Moyer.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/7/29/5947059/tsuyoshi-wada-cubs-pitcher-pitching-backward
Jamie Moyer had a shit ton of movement on all four of his pitches. Wada can't be serious with the stuff he's tossing up there. I bet his wife and girlfriends are hot though.
His wife, Kasumi Nakane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasumi_Nakane), is actually pretty famous in those Asian places. I have no idea what "gravure idol" means, but I'm sure it involves very creepy Japanese men and young girls.
(http://www.kineda.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/103.jpg)
Gravure Idol just means she's a Japanese model of scant clothing.
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
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Quote from: PenFoe on July 29, 2014, 10:08:53 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 29, 2014, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 29, 2014, 08:04:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2014, 07:29:38 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 29, 2014, 07:13:04 AM
9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
A bunch of words and graphs and stats on Wada and why he probably sucks, but could be Jamie Moyer.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/7/29/5947059/tsuyoshi-wada-cubs-pitcher-pitching-backward
Jamie Moyer had a shit ton of movement on all four of his pitches. Wada can't be serious with the stuff he's tossing up there. I bet his wife and girlfriends are hot though.
His wife, Kasumi Nakane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasumi_Nakane), is actually pretty famous in those Asian places. I have no idea what "gravure idol" means, but I'm sure it involves very creepy Japanese men and young girls.
(http://www.kineda.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/103.jpg)
Gravure Idol just means she's a Japanese model of scant clothing.
One more, for the cheap seats.
Per her bio:
Quote
In 1996, she began working as a gravure idol, gaining success due to having a larger bust for her age.
(http://www.kineda.com/idols/kasumi_nakane/kasumi_nakane2.jpg)
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Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2014, 07:29:38 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 29, 2014, 07:13:04 AM
9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
A bunch of words and graphs and stats on Wada and why he probably sucks, but could be Jamie Moyer.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/7/29/5947059/tsuyoshi-wada-cubs-pitcher-pitching-backward
Jamie Moyer had a shit ton of movement on all four of his pitches. Wada can't be serious with the stuff he's tossing up there. I bet his wife and girlfriends are hot though.
His wife, Kasumi Nakane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasumi_Nakane), is actually pretty famous in those Asian places. I have no idea what "gravure idol" means, but I'm sure it involves very creepy Japanese men and young girls.
(http://www.kineda.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/103.jpg)
Gravure Idol just means she's a Japanese model of scant clothing.
One more, for the cheap seats.
Per her bio:
Quote
In 1996, she began working as a gravure idol, gaining success due to having a larger bust for her age.
(http://www.kineda.com/idols/kasumi_nakane/kasumi_nakane2.jpg)
Born April 3, 1982.
WTF, Japan?
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9 straight quality starts from Arietta, 2 from Hendricka, and a really nice outing from Wada last night.
While we're all tingly about the bats on the horizon, Jepstink is forming a pitching SNEAK ATTACK.
I'll get as excited about Arrieta and Hendricks as anyone can but I don't really think a 33 year old junkballer from Japan's that much to get excited about.
I like the guy as an eventual 4 or 5 LOOGY. At least until Jepstink finally get me the knuckleballer I've been craving since the Cubs had Hoyt Wilhelm.
For the Nippon Ham Fighters'd.
Look, I want the guy to succeed because JennPex roots for all the Japanese players and this would give her more INCENTIVE to watch games with me. But last night he pitched to contact and got a ton of groundballs against a crummy lineup that had never seen him before. He doesn't have devastating breaking stuff so as to give him a decided advantage against lefties. If you are hoping that Theo is planning to fill out the back of the rotation with AAAA washouts when this team is good, then you can go sit with Al and discuss how many more tears you're willing to shell out. If this guy takes a giant leap forward and makes the team out of Spring Training next year, I'll be thrilled. But I don't think he'll make it past September 1.
So much THIS.
A bunch of words and graphs and stats on Wada and why he probably sucks, but could be Jamie Moyer.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/7/29/5947059/tsuyoshi-wada-cubs-pitcher-pitching-backward
Jamie Moyer had a shit ton of movement on all four of his pitches. Wada can't be serious with the stuff he's tossing up there. I bet his wife and girlfriends are hot though.
His wife, Kasumi Nakane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasumi_Nakane), is actually pretty famous in those Asian places. I have no idea what "gravure idol" means, but I'm sure it involves very creepy Japanese men and young girls.
(http://www.kineda.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/103.jpg)
Gravure Idol just means she's a Japanese model of scant clothing.
One more, for the cheap seats.
Per her bio:
Quote
In 1996, she began working as a gravure idol, gaining success due to having a larger bust for her age.
(http://www.kineda.com/idols/kasumi_nakane/kasumi_nakane2.jpg)
Born April 3, 1982.
WTF, Japan?
Quote
I have no idea what "gravure idol" means, but I'm sure it involves very creepy Japanese men and young girls.
I expected more from the culture that gave us Used Panty Vending Machines.
This thread is about the game last night that started in 2014 and ended in 2015, right?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 30, 2014, 11:24:43 AM
This thread is about the game last night that started in 2014 and ended in 2015, right?
NEVER FORGET. Cubs Hero John Baker strikes again.
Hi.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 30, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 30, 2014, 11:24:43 AM
This thread is about the game last night that started in 2014 and ended in 2015, right?
NEVER FORGET. Cubs Hero John Baker strikes again.
I doubt that many of you stayed up to watch this. I was still riveted to the screen at midnight in California. I couldn't escape the feeling that I was seeing a game that would be part of Cub history. It was fun. The seats were almost empty, reminding me of the not so glorious days of the late 40's and 50's. The lineups were depleted. The players were tired. The managers actually had to earn their pay. And then a back-up catcher is called upon to pitch. He gets out of a potential jam with a double play. A .208 hitter, he leads off in the bottom of the inning with a walk. The bases are loaded and he scores from third base on a short fly out with a close paly at home plate. I love baseball.
Quote from: CBStew on July 30, 2014, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 30, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 30, 2014, 11:24:43 AM
This thread is about the game last night that started in 2014 and ended in 2015, right?
NEVER FORGET. Cubs Hero John Baker strikes again.
I doubt that many of you stayed up to watch this. I was still riveted to the screen at midnight in California. I couldn't escape the feeling that I was seeing a game that would be part of Cub history. It was fun. The seats were almost empty, reminding me of the not so glorious days of the late 40's and 50's. The lineups were depleted. The players were tired. The managers actually had to earn their pay. And then a back-up catcher is called upon to pitch. He gets out of a potential jam with a double play. A .208 hitter, he leads off in the bottom of the inning with a walk. The bases are loaded and he scores from third base on a short fly out with a close paly at home plate. I love baseball.
It was fun to watch. I think I'm going to quit while I'm ahead and avoid watching any more Cubs games until September.
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
His numbers in Boston are mostly better than Arrieta's in Baltimore so I see no reason not to just hand the 2015-2020 Cy Youngs to both of them in alternating years right now.
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
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Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Great, here's your "How Many More Tears, Theo?" lanyard, a 75 Wins Participation Trophy you can proudly display after a spending spree on mid-tier free agents lands the Cubs in 4th, and you can just copy and paste this "prospects rarely pan out" wherever needed. Thanks for playing, sport.
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Great, here's your "How Many More Tears, Theo?" lanyard, a 75 Wins Participation Trophy you can proudly display after a spending spree on mid-tier free agents lands the Cubs in 4th, and you can just copy and paste this "prospects rarely pan out" wherever needed. Thanks for playing, sport.
DPD, you also get your pick of lightly used Snork, Hammel, Garza, Bonifacio, Marlon Byrd, and Darwin Barney shirseys.
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
I always forget I hate Castro. That sonofabitch.
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
I always forget I hate Castro. That sonofabitch.
According to Huey (who is not a meatball) I love Edwin Jackson (who has no balls or heart) because of that one tweet (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/341278594812743680) from last year.
Quote from: R-V on July 30, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
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Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
I always forget I hate Castro. That sonofabitch.
According to Huey (who is not a meatball) I love Edwin Jackson (who has no balls or heart) because of that one tweet (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/341278594812743680) from last year.
hmm. That could be fun. We could just throw up FYRVs at every Jackson fuckup until we deplete the entire world's supply of all four letters sometime next month.
Quote from: R-V on July 30, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
I always forget I hate Castro. That sonofabitch.
According to Huey (who is not a meatball) I love Edwin Jackson (who has no balls or heart) because of that one tweet (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/341278594812743680) from last year.
Done, branded for life.
(http://i.imgur.com/P3b0qY8.jpg)
Quote from: R-V on July 30, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
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Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
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Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
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Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
I always forget I hate Castro. That sonofabitch.
According to Huey (who is not a meatball) I love Edwin Jackson (who has no balls or heart) because of that one tweet (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/341278594812743680) from last year.
Seems like you're embracing the meme rather nicely, (https://twitter.com/rvmcd/status/494305825964322816) thankyouverymuch.
Quote from: PANK! on July 30, 2014, 04:21:09 PM
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Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 04:01:07 PM
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Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
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Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
I always forget I hate Castro. That sonofabitch.
According to Huey (who is not a meatball) I love Edwin Jackson (who has no balls or heart) because of that one tweet (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/341278594812743680) from last year.
Seems like you're embracing the meme rather nicely, (https://twitter.com/rvmcd/status/494305825964322816) thankyouverymuch.
Thank you. Fishing for meatballs is a favorite pastime of mine.
Quote from: R-V on July 30, 2014, 04:28:25 PM
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Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
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Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
I always forget I hate Castro. That sonofabitch.
According to Huey (who is not a meatball) I love Edwin Jackson (who has no balls or heart) because of that one tweet (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/341278594812743680) from last year.
Seems like you're embracing the meme rather nicely, (https://twitter.com/rvmcd/status/494305825964322816) thankyouverymuch.
Thank you. Fishing for meatballs is a favorite pastime of mine.
Whatever, Edwin Jackson Lover.
(http://i.imgur.com/P3b0qY8.jpg)
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Quote from: InternetApex on July 30, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 30, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Cubs picked up Felix Doubront for a PTBNL.
Fun
Even though you hate him on Twitter, this feels like a worthy shot.
They'll give up (hopefully) some dead weight from the 40-man for a young guy with decent stuff.
They've turned this around before.
He sucks but I'm not down on the deal. They'll give up nothing for him and if it doesn't work out no harm done. Fine by me.
He's got loads of potential. Let's get him in here and good and Bosio'd and watch the FYSlaks pile up. Then let's trade him for Joey Gallo.
No you will NOT FYSlak me. I earned this because I was RIGHT ON OLT.
Everybody with two good eyes was right on Olt.
You give me Doubront's 2013 statline for PTBNL and after that you can go get your shinebox.
I don't think there's any question that every Doubront K moving forward is a direct FYSlak.
Why settle for K's alone? Why not all outs? Eli's gone dark on us. We need to rebrand Slak as the bearded face of the resistance.
I'm on board damn it. I'm a people person. We still have Chuck.
Look, we all have our guys.
I was the guy who hated Soto and if Hannemann ever pans out, I'm fucked.
SKO hates CJ Edwards and Castro.
Chuck hates Castro and Baez.
You hate Doubront.
We all have a role to play here.
I always forget I hate Castro. That sonofabitch.
According to Huey (who is not a meatball) I love Edwin Jackson (who has no balls or heart) because of that one tweet (https://twitter.com/huecub/status/341278594812743680) from last year.
Seems like you're embracing the meme rather nicely, (https://twitter.com/rvmcd/status/494305825964322816) thankyouverymuch.
Thank you. Fishing for meatballs is a favorite pastime of mine.
Whatever, Edwin Jackson Lover.
(http://i.imgur.com/P3b0qY8.jpg)
Says the guy who loves Aaron Miles and John Baker.
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
I think you just melted Gordon Wittenmyer's head.
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 04, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 04, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
Yeah, as torrid of a pace as he's been on for the last few months I'd say there's still nothing wrong with letting Baez get as many at bats in AAA as he can. You can call him up Sept. 1st and still know he had an entire season of at-bats at just about every level in the minors. No one could argue they rushed his development.
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 04, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
Yeah, as torrid of a pace as he's been on for the last few months I'd say there's still nothing wrong with letting Baez get as many at bats in AAA as he can. You can call him up Sept. 1st and still know he had an entire season of at-bats at just about every level in the minors. No one could argue they rushed his development.
I just think people need to understand that Bryant and Baez are going to strike out. It's just in their make up.
Soler...now that's the dude.
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 04, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
Yeah, as torrid of a pace as he's been on for the last few months I'd say there's still nothing wrong with letting Baez get as many at bats in AAA as he can. You can call him up Sept. 1st and still know he had an entire season of at-bats at just about every level in the minors. No one could argue they rushed his development.
I just think people need to understand that Bryant and Baez are going to strike out. It's just in their make up.
Soler...now that's the dude.
I expect them both to K about the same, but Bryant seems like he's more likely to hit for average and he walks twice as often to this point, so he shouldn't go through long stretches of pain like Baez may. I've said it over and over but I could really see Baez being the Soriano type where you pay for a week of awful, awful, with a month were he can carry an entire offense. If you're anyone but a wrong-headed, obstinate motherfucker you'll enjoy the overall result, because it's going to be fun as hell.
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 04, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
Yeah, as torrid of a pace as he's been on for the last few months I'd say there's still nothing wrong with letting Baez get as many at bats in AAA as he can. You can call him up Sept. 1st and still know he had an entire season of at-bats at just about every level in the minors. No one could argue they rushed his development.
I just think people need to understand that Bryant and Baez are going to strike out. It's just in their make up.
Soler...now that's the dude.
From what I saw Friday, Baez is behind Bryant who is a tad behind Soler in approach development. Soler had a great high-pitch AB that night that, I think, ended in a K. But he fought off a lot of breaking balls and took a questionable pitch for the final strike in the AB, just didn't get the call.
Bryant's defense was apparent at 3B. I'm no scout, but he made a few range-y plays and showed an accurate throwing arm. Soler's arm is strong in RF.
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
Well, it sure would be weird to actually watch the Cubs this year...
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 04, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
No way Bryant comes up before next April 21ish. No chance given his agent. Theo's locking in year 7. Soler is here the day after Iowa finishes its season.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 04, 2014, 10:19:56 AM
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Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
No way Bryant comes up before next April 21ish. No chance given his agent. Theo's locking in year 7. Soler is here the day after Iowa finishes its season.
Chuck knows Scott Boras guys, stop suggesting Bryant might get called up earlier because the Cubs have money.
They don't, they are a small market team now. And there is zero chance any of these guys resign, so the Kubbeez need to hold on to them as long as they can.
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Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
No way Bryant comes up before next April 21ish. No chance given his agent. Theo's locking in year 7. Soler is here the day after Iowa finishes its season.
Chuck knows Scott Boras guys, stop suggesting Bryant might get called up earlier because the Cubs have money.
They don't, they are a small market team now. And there is zero chance any of these guys resign, so the Kubbeez need to hold on to them as long as they can.
The money isn't the issue. It's the risk Boras will get the guy to leave. Risk after Year 6 or risk after Year 7. That's it.
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Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
No way Bryant comes up before next April 21ish. No chance given his agent. Theo's locking in year 7. Soler is here the day after Iowa finishes its season.
Chuck knows Scott Boras guys, stop suggesting Bryant might get called up earlier because the Cubs have money.
They don't, they are a small market team now. And there is zero chance any of these guys resign, so the Kubbeez need to hold on to them as long as they can.
The money isn't the issue. It's the risk Boras will get the guy to leave. Risk after Year 6 or risk after Year 7. That's it.
....wait then how is this not about money because wouldn't he stay if they offered him the most money regardless? Isn't that how the free agency thing works? This seems like a money thing.
Great news guys - Bryant will definitely be called up Sept. 1 now that Chuck has predicted he won't.
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 10:30:25 AM
Great news guys - Bryant will definitely be called up Sept. 1 now that Chuck has predicted he won't.
The only other guarantee is that when he signs an extension at some point, Chuck will hate the contract.
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Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.
As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.
Yeah, as torrid of a pace as he's been on for the last few months I'd say there's still nothing wrong with letting Baez get as many at bats in AAA as he can. You can call him up Sept. 1st and still know he had an entire season of at-bats at just about every level in the minors. No one could argue they rushed his development.
I just think people need to understand that Bryant and Baez are going to strike out. It's just in their make up.
Soler...now that's the dude.
THI
I think there's a good chance Bryant and Soler both excel, but by all accounts Soler's already got an mlb-caliber approach to hitting. Throw in his cannon for an arm in RF (don't know about his footwork, range, instincts, ability to read the ball off the bat etc. but I'll settle for average) and I'm more excited about him than Bryant. I mean, if I had to choose and all.
I'm going to pour us all a tall, cold glass of settle the fuck down juice by posting the slash lines for this year's epic minor league stud, Gregory Polanco of Pissburgh.
210 PA: .222/.322/.355
That's not alarming because he's shown plenty of speed and power while getting completely owned by LHP.
My point is that while Polanco is probably a big league superstar in the making, the Pirates were crucified for leaving him on the farm while they struggled out of the gate amidst high expectations to compete this year. And even though he absolutely obliterated AAA pitching (.347/.405/.540) and had every Pirate fan with an internet connection going apeshit for two months, he has not represented the savior they thought he'd be in YEAR ONE. So next year, when all our young heroes are at the big league level, and some of them mash and some of them don't, the mouthbreathers will bleat as loud as they ever did. And the Cubs record may not look much better than it did when they sold off everybody the last two years.
So let's see next year for what it actually is: the last year of pretend baseball before the actual thing happens inside Ernest's rectum.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
I'm going to pour us all a tall, cold glass of settle the fuck down juice by posting the slash lines for this year's epic minor league stud, Gregory Polanco of Pissburgh.
210 PA: .222/.322/.355
That's not alarming because he's shown plenty of speed and power while getting completely owned by LHP.
My point is that while Polanco is probably a big league superstar in the making, the Pirates were crucified for leaving him on the farm while they struggled out of the gate amidst high expectations to compete this year. And even though he absolutely obliterated AAA pitching (.347/.405/.540) and had every Pirate fan with an internet connection going apeshit for two months, he has not represented the savior they thought he'd be in YEAR ONE. So next year, when all our young heroes are at the big league level, and some of them mash and some of them don't, the mouthbreathers will bleat as loud as they ever did. And the Cubs record may not look much better than it did when they sold off everybody the last two years.
So let's see next year for what it actually is: the last year of pretend baseball before the actual thing happens inside Ernest's rectum.
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Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
I'm going to pour us all a tall, cold glass of settle the fuck down juice by posting the slash lines for this year's epic minor league stud, Gregory Polanco of Pissburgh.
210 PA: .222/.322/.355
That's not alarming because he's shown plenty of speed and power while getting completely owned by LHP.
My point is that while Polanco is probably a big league superstar in the making, the Pirates were crucified for leaving him on the farm while they struggled out of the gate amidst high expectations to compete this year. And even though he absolutely obliterated AAA pitching (.347/.405/.540) and had every Pirate fan with an internet connection going apeshit for two months, he has not represented the savior they thought he'd be in YEAR ONE. So next year, when all our young heroes are at the big league level, and some of them mash and some of them don't, the mouthbreathers will bleat as loud as they ever did. And the Cubs record may not look much better than it did when they sold off everybody the last two years.
So let's see next year for what it actually is: the last year of pretend baseball before the actual thing happens inside Ernest's rectum.
Yeah but Puig and Abreu and Cespedes all kicked ass as rookies and they share Cuban lineage with Soler so he's clearly going to kick ass. Bryant is kinda like Evan Longoria in that they play 3B and I want them to be alike and Longoria went to the World Series as a rookie.
So shut up.
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
I'm going to pour us all a tall, cold glass of settle the fuck down juice by posting the slash lines for this year's epic minor league stud, Gregory Polanco of Pissburgh.
210 PA: .222/.322/.355
That's not alarming because he's shown plenty of speed and power while getting completely owned by LHP.
My point is that while Polanco is probably a big league superstar in the making, the Pirates were crucified for leaving him on the farm while they struggled out of the gate amidst high expectations to compete this year. And even though he absolutely obliterated AAA pitching (.347/.405/.540) and had every Pirate fan with an internet connection going apeshit for two months, he has not represented the savior they thought he'd be in YEAR ONE. So next year, when all our young heroes are at the big league level, and some of them mash and some of them don't, the mouthbreathers will bleat as loud as they ever did. And the Cubs record may not look much better than it did when they sold off everybody the last two years.
So let's see next year for what it actually is: the last year of pretend baseball before the actual thing happens inside Ernest's rectum.
Yeah but Puig and Abreu and Cespedes all kicked ass as rookies and they share Cuban lineage with Soler so he's clearly going to kick ass. Bryant is kinda like Evan Longoria in that they play 3B and I want them to be alike and Longoria went to the World Series as a rookie.
So shut up.
Joyful positive is great. My cup runneth over. But Slaky just announced the imminent return of "Painful Baseball" and I think that's the perfect description of what 2015 is going to be. If you thought the haters were out for Theo thus far, wait until they're seven games under .500 on June 1 next year. Oh. My. Gord.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 04, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
The Super 2 is not the issue, Dude.
If they
did really, really care about Super 2 arbitration more than anything, these guys wouldn't be arriving until mid-summer next year, which I feel everyone here agrees is unlikely. And, whether they're called up now or they're held back until May or so 2015, either way they'll be expected to hit arbitration after 2017.
If Super 2 is off the table, the only contract/money concern is total years of team control (including arbitration years).
Chuck believes that matters for Bryant (because Boras), so that's why he's suggesting we won't get Chicago Bryant boners until May or thereabouts, as that will give the Cubs team control through the end of 2021, with arbitration after 2017, rather than 2020 (and still arbitration after 2017) if he came up now.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
I'm going to pour us all a tall, cold glass of settle the fuck down juice by posting the slash lines for this year's epic minor league stud, Gregory Polanco of Pissburgh.
210 PA: .222/.322/.355
That's not alarming because he's shown plenty of speed and power while getting completely owned by LHP.
My point is that while Polanco is probably a big league superstar in the making, the Pirates were crucified for leaving him on the farm while they struggled out of the gate amidst high expectations to compete this year. And even though he absolutely obliterated AAA pitching (.347/.405/.540) and had every Pirate fan with an internet connection going apeshit for two months, he has not represented the savior they thought he'd be in YEAR ONE. So next year, when all our young heroes are at the big league level, and some of them mash and some of them don't, the mouthbreathers will bleat as loud as they ever did. And the Cubs record may not look much better than it did when they sold off everybody the last two years.
So let's see next year for what it actually is: the last year of pretend baseball before the actual thing happens inside Ernest's rectum.
I don't think anybody expects all three to step into the bigs and dominate. The intial stumbling period like Polanco is having is fairly common, following that first burst when no pitcher in the league has a book on him (like Alcantara). Then they adjust, like Baez has in AAA this season. But by late next season at least one of these will be as much fun to watch as Rizzo was in his first year. And in a couple years, we're going to have, like, four fucking Rizzos. We're due.
Quote from: Fork on August 04, 2014, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
I'm going to pour us all a tall, cold glass of settle the fuck down juice by posting the slash lines for this year's epic minor league stud, Gregory Polanco of Pissburgh.
210 PA: .222/.322/.355
That's not alarming because he's shown plenty of speed and power while getting completely owned by LHP.
My point is that while Polanco is probably a big league superstar in the making, the Pirates were crucified for leaving him on the farm while they struggled out of the gate amidst high expectations to compete this year. And even though he absolutely obliterated AAA pitching (.347/.405/.540) and had every Pirate fan with an internet connection going apeshit for two months, he has not represented the savior they thought he'd be in YEAR ONE. So next year, when all our young heroes are at the big league level, and some of them mash and some of them don't, the mouthbreathers will bleat as loud as they ever did. And the Cubs record may not look much better than it did when they sold off everybody the last two years.
So let's see next year for what it actually is: the last year of pretend baseball before the actual thing happens inside Ernest's rectum.
I don't think anybody expects all three to step into the bigs and dominate. The intial stumbling period like Polanco is having is fairly common, following that first burst when no pitcher in the league has a book on him (like Alcantara). Then they adjust, like Baez has in AAA this season. But by late next season at least one of these will be as much fun to watch as Rizzo was in his first year. And in a couple years, we're going to have, like, four fucking Rizzos. We're due.
Yep.
The 2015 Chicago Cubs: The Welcome Return of Painful Baseball
The 2016 Chicago Cubs: The Welcome Return of Competitive Baseball
The 2017 Chicago Cubs: Four Rizzos, Three Castros and Go Fuck Yourself.
Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
I'm going to pour us all a tall, cold glass of settle the fuck down juice by posting the slash lines for this year's epic minor league stud, Gregory Polanco of Pissburgh.
210 PA: .222/.322/.355
That's not alarming because he's shown plenty of speed and power while getting completely owned by LHP.
My point is that while Polanco is probably a big league superstar in the making, the Pirates were crucified for leaving him on the farm while they struggled out of the gate amidst high expectations to compete this year. And even though he absolutely obliterated AAA pitching (.347/.405/.540) and had every Pirate fan with an internet connection going apeshit for two months, he has not represented the savior they thought he'd be in YEAR ONE. So next year, when all our young heroes are at the big league level, and some of them mash and some of them don't, the mouthbreathers will bleat as loud as they ever did. And the Cubs record may not look much better than it did when they sold off everybody the last two years.
So let's see next year for what it actually is: the last year of pretend baseball before the actual thing happens inside Ernest's rectum.
Yeah but Puig and Abreu and Cespedes all kicked ass as rookies and they share Cuban lineage with Soler so he's clearly going to kick ass. Bryant is kinda like Evan Longoria in that they play 3B and I want them to be alike and Longoria went to the World Series as a rookie.
So shut up.
Joyful positive is great. My cup runneth over. But Slaky just announced the imminent return of "Painful Baseball" and I think that's the perfect description of what 2015 is going to be. If you thought the haters were out for Theo thus far, wait until they're seven games under .500 on June 1 next year. Oh. My. Gord.
Exactly. Now that the Cubs are "trying" people will be so fucking pissed when they're not in first by 10 games on July 1st. Can't wait.
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 12:09:27 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 04, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
I'm going to pour us all a tall, cold glass of settle the fuck down juice by posting the slash lines for this year's epic minor league stud, Gregory Polanco of Pissburgh.
210 PA: .222/.322/.355
That's not alarming because he's shown plenty of speed and power while getting completely owned by LHP.
My point is that while Polanco is probably a big league superstar in the making, the Pirates were crucified for leaving him on the farm while they struggled out of the gate amidst high expectations to compete this year. And even though he absolutely obliterated AAA pitching (.347/.405/.540) and had every Pirate fan with an internet connection going apeshit for two months, he has not represented the savior they thought he'd be in YEAR ONE. So next year, when all our young heroes are at the big league level, and some of them mash and some of them don't, the mouthbreathers will bleat as loud as they ever did. And the Cubs record may not look much better than it did when they sold off everybody the last two years.
So let's see next year for what it actually is: the last year of pretend baseball before the actual thing happens inside Ernest's rectum.
Yeah but Puig and Abreu and Cespedes all kicked ass as rookies and they share Cuban lineage with Soler so he's clearly going to kick ass. Bryant is kinda like Evan Longoria in that they play 3B and I want them to be alike and Longoria went to the World Series as a rookie.
So shut up.
Joyful positive is great. My cup runneth over. But Slaky just announced the imminent return of "Painful Baseball" and I think that's the perfect description of what 2015 is going to be. If you thought the haters were out for Theo thus far, wait until they're seven games under .500 on June 1 next year. Oh. My. Gord.
Exactly. Now that the Cubs are "trying" people will be so fucking pissed when they're not in first by 10 games on July 1st. Can't wait.
I'm pissed that they aren't ten games ahead today!
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Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
The Super 2 is not the issue, Dude.
If they did really, really care about Super 2 arbitration more than anything, these guys wouldn't be arriving until mid-summer next year, which I feel everyone here agrees is unlikely. And, whether they're called up now or they're held back until May or so 2015, either way they'll be expected to hit arbitration after 2017.
If Super 2 is off the table, the only contract/money concern is total years of team control (including arbitration years).
Chuck believes that matters for Bryant (because Boras), so that's why he's suggesting we won't get Chicago Bryant boners until May or thereabouts, as that will give the Cubs team control through the end of 2021, with arbitration after 2017, rather than 2020 (and still arbitration after 2017) if he came up now.
Here's the thing about Super 2...isn't it based on when everyone is called up and not on some arbitrary date? I other words, if every team is scared of Super 2 and no one starts their top prospects in the majors out of Spring Training, does it matter when The Cubs call up Bryant, etc?
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Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
The Super 2 is not the issue, Dude.
If they did really, really care about Super 2 arbitration more than anything, these guys wouldn't be arriving until mid-summer next year, which I feel everyone here agrees is unlikely. And, whether they're called up now or they're held back until May or so 2015, either way they'll be expected to hit arbitration after 2017.
If Super 2 is off the table, the only contract/money concern is total years of team control (including arbitration years).
Chuck believes that matters for Bryant (because Boras), so that's why he's suggesting we won't get Chicago Bryant boners until May or thereabouts, as that will give the Cubs team control through the end of 2021, with arbitration after 2017, rather than 2020 (and still arbitration after 2017) if he came up now.
Correct. I think Bryant arrives post-service time but pre-Super 2 time in 2015.
I will caveat that there is a way for Bryant to come up in September 2014, and that is if he starts at Iowa in 2015 and stays until June (to make sure his 6-year free agency clock doesn't expire until sometime in year 7. I don't think they'll do that because they won't want to/be able to send him down once he's up.
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Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
The Super 2 is not the issue, Dude.
If they did really, really care about Super 2 arbitration more than anything, these guys wouldn't be arriving until mid-summer next year, which I feel everyone here agrees is unlikely. And, whether they're called up now or they're held back until May or so 2015, either way they'll be expected to hit arbitration after 2017.
If Super 2 is off the table, the only contract/money concern is total years of team control (including arbitration years).
Chuck believes that matters for Bryant (because Boras), so that's why he's suggesting we won't get Chicago Bryant boners until May or thereabouts, as that will give the Cubs team control through the end of 2021, with arbitration after 2017, rather than 2020 (and still arbitration after 2017) if he came up now.
Correct. I think Bryant arrives post-service time but pre-Super 2 time in 2015.
I will caveat that there is a way for Bryant to come up in September 2014, and that is if he starts at Iowa in 2015 and stays until June (to make sure his 6-year free agency clock doesn't expire until sometime in year 7. I don't think they'll do that because they won't want to/be able to send him down once he's up.
So if he starts and stays in Iowa in 2015 they'll retroactively call him up and replay all the games from September 2014? That sounds exhausting. I wonder what other teams would field a September 2014 team for 2015 to play in the September Chuck League. Could we get Zambrano back for that? Why not? Maybe Sandberg will be available to manage.
Why would the Cubs bring up a player for a month, only to let him spend time next year bending AAA pitching over the sink?
Once he's here, he's here. Unless he starts putting up Oltian numbers.
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Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
The Super 2 is not the issue, Dude.
If they did really, really care about Super 2 arbitration more than anything, these guys wouldn't be arriving until mid-summer next year, which I feel everyone here agrees is unlikely. And, whether they're called up now or they're held back until May or so 2015, either way they'll be expected to hit arbitration after 2017.
If Super 2 is off the table, the only contract/money concern is total years of team control (including arbitration years).
Chuck believes that matters for Bryant (because Boras), so that's why he's suggesting we won't get Chicago Bryant boners until May or thereabouts, as that will give the Cubs team control through the end of 2021, with arbitration after 2017, rather than 2020 (and still arbitration after 2017) if he came up now.
Correct. I think Bryant arrives post-service time but pre-Super 2 time in 2015.
I will caveat that there is a way for Bryant to come up in September 2014, and that is if he starts at Iowa in 2015 and stays until June (to make sure his 6-year free agency clock doesn't expire until sometime in year 7. I don't think they'll do that because they won't want to/be able to send him down once he's up.
So if he starts and stays in Iowa in 2015 they'll retroactively call him up and replay all the games from September 2014? That sounds exhausting. I wonder what other teams would field a September 2014 team for 2015 to play in the September Chuck League. Could we get Zambrano back for that? Why not? Maybe Sandberg will be available to manage.
I think the point is that service time is cumulative but need not be consecutive.
So Bryant could come up this year without
necessarily burning off that 'extra year' Chuck wants. But, in order to do so, he'd have to spend more time in the minors next season to avoid reaching a full year of service time (172 days) before the end of the 2015 season.
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Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.
If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.
So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.
Welcome back, painful baseball.
Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.
Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?
Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.
If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?
The Super 2 is not the issue, Dude.
If they did really, really care about Super 2 arbitration more than anything, these guys wouldn't be arriving until mid-summer next year, which I feel everyone here agrees is unlikely. And, whether they're called up now or they're held back until May or so 2015, either way they'll be expected to hit arbitration after 2017.
If Super 2 is off the table, the only contract/money concern is total years of team control (including arbitration years).
Chuck believes that matters for Bryant (because Boras), so that's why he's suggesting we won't get Chicago Bryant boners until May or thereabouts, as that will give the Cubs team control through the end of 2021, with arbitration after 2017, rather than 2020 (and still arbitration after 2017) if he came up now.
Correct. I think Bryant arrives post-service time but pre-Super 2 time in 2015.
I will caveat that there is a way for Bryant to come up in September 2014, and that is if he starts at Iowa in 2015 and stays until June (to make sure his 6-year free agency clock doesn't expire until sometime in year 7. I don't think they'll do that because they won't want to/be able to send him down once he's up.
So if he starts and stays in Iowa in 2015 they'll retroactively call him up and replay all the games from September 2014? That sounds exhausting. I wonder what other teams would field a September 2014 team for 2015 to play in the September Chuck League. Could we get Zambrano back for that? Why not? Maybe Sandberg will be available to manage.
I think the point is that service time is cumulative but need not be consecutive.
So Bryant could come up this year without necessarily burning off that 'extra year' Chuck wants. But, in order to do so, he'd have to spend more time in the minors next season to avoid reaching a full year of service time (172 days) before the end of the 2015 season.
Yep.
Given my seniority I am the last person who should be saying this, but what is the hurry? The Cubs are 16 games under .500. Having Bryant up at any time during this season isn't going to change the outcome of the season, unless you think that making a madcap run at fourth place is a worthy project.
Quote from: CBStew on August 04, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
Given my seniority I am the last person who should be saying this, but what is the hurry? The Cubs are 16 games under .500. Having Bryant up at any time during this season isn't going to change the outcome of the season, unless you think that making a madcap run at fourth place is a worthy project.
The only real question is whether calling him up now would be better for his development as a player.
Quote from: CBStew on August 04, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
Given my seniority I am the last person who should be saying this, but what is the hurry? The Cubs are 16 games under .500. Having Bryant up at any time during this season isn't going to change the outcome of the season, unless you think that making a madcap run at fourth place is a worthy project.
The point would be to have Baez and Bryant get all of their adjustments out of the way now in meaningless games so as to have them ready for a season where they're actually trying to win next year.
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 04, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
Given my seniority I am the last person who should be saying this, but what is the hurry? The Cubs are 16 games under .500. Having Bryant up at any time during this season isn't going to change the outcome of the season, unless you think that making a madcap run at fourth place is a worthy project.
The point would be to have Baez and Bryant get all of their adjustments out of the way now in meaningless games so as to have them ready for a season where they're actually trying to win next year.
Baez had a much longer adjustment to AAA than Bryant did. He's just getting a head start.
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
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Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
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Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 03:04:39 PM
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: thehawk on August 07, 2014, 09:52:24 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
The Cubs are better served waiting a couple months and getting an arm that only costs a second round pick.
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Quote from: thehawk on August 07, 2014, 02:58:53 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: thehawk on August 07, 2014, 09:52:24 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
The Cubs are better served waiting a couple months and getting an arm that only costs a second round pick.
Lester won't cost a pick because he was traded.
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Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
Is this a green fonted post? I hope so.
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Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
Is this a green fonted post? I hope so.
Which part of it seems sarcastic? The part where Hamels will be really good for five years? Or the part where they shouldn't trade anything of value for him?
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Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
Is this a green fonted post? I hope so.
Which part of it seems sarcastic? The part where Hamels will be really good for five years? Or the part where they shouldn't trade anything of value for him?
The part about good for 5 more years, along with the part where it says that he doesn't get paid a ton.
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Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
Is this a green fonted post? I hope so.
Which part of it seems sarcastic? The part where Hamels will be really good for five years? Or the part where they shouldn't trade anything of value for him?
The part about good for 5 more years, along with the part where it says that he doesn't get paid a ton.
He's paid near market value for how good he is. That's doesn't make him overpaid. He's got 4 years left on his deal, with a 5th year buyout.
He's projected at +15 WAR for the next 5 seasons. For 5 years, $109 million or 4 years, $96 million he's worth the risk.
But only if you don't have to give up prospects and have to pay his salary. No green font.
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Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
Is this a green fonted post? I hope so.
Which part of it seems sarcastic? The part where Hamels will be really good for five years? Or the part where they shouldn't trade anything of value for him?
The part about good for 5 more years, along with the part where it says that he doesn't get paid a ton.
He's paid near market value for how good he is. That's doesn't make him overpaid. He's got 4 years left on his deal, with a 5th year buyout.
He's projected at +15 WAR for the next 5 seasons. For 5 years, $109 million or 4 years, $96 million he's worth the risk.
But only if you don't have to give up prospects and have to pay his salary. No green font.
Yeah, I kind of wanted the deal but I also think that Ruben Amaro being a complete moron would help the Cubs in any potential trade. Like I wouldn't be shocked if they could get him without giving up Russell.
But I think the Phillies will listen again on Hamels this winter. They don't really have a choice. Amaro might be fired by then.
Anyway it would have been cool for the reason of getting Hamels at a value over what someone of his caliber would cost on an open market plus eliminating him choosing another situation over the Cubs, as free agents are allowed to do.
That said, I don't think the Cubs will be a tough sell to top FA pitchers this winter. Everything is pretty clearly coming into focus.
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Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?
Can they also convince Hamels to come here? Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.
If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.
You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).
Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.
Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.
Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.
Is this a green fonted post? I hope so.
Which part of it seems sarcastic? The part where Hamels will be really good for five years? Or the part where they shouldn't trade anything of value for him?
The part about good for 5 more years, along with the part where it says that he doesn't get paid a ton.
He's paid near market value for how good he is. That's doesn't make him overpaid. He's got 4 years left on his deal, with a 5th year buyout.
He's projected at +15 WAR for the next 5 seasons. For 5 years, $109 million or 4 years, $96 million he's worth the risk.
But only if you don't have to give up prospects and have to pay his salary. No green font.
Yeah, I kind of wanted the deal but I also think that Ruben Amaro being a complete moron would help the Cubs in any potential trade. Like I wouldn't be shocked if they could get him without giving up Russell.
But I think the Phillies will listen again on Hamels this winter. They don't really have a choice. Amaro might be fired by then.
Anyway it would have been cool for the reason of getting Hamels at a value over what someone of his caliber would cost on an open market plus eliminating him choosing another situation over the Cubs, as free agents are allowed to do.
That said, I don't think the Cubs will be a tough sell to top FA pitchers this winter. Everything is pretty clearly coming into focus.
Yeah. The Cubs are going to have a shit ton of money to offer, and any agent with half a brain could tell their players that the Cubs were going to be a great place to win and make money if they were too stupid to figure it out for themselves. Javy and Alcantara and Rizzo and Castro and at least a month of Soler dongs should be persuasive.
I kinda wonder if Tanaka would have decided differently if he was a FA this year instead of last year. Last offseason it was harder to see it all coming together. I mean Eli nearly offed himself.
Jacob Turner deal is done. Turner for Tyler Bremer (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=bremer001tyl&utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.mlbtraderumors.com) and Jose Arias (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=arias-007jos&utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.mlbtraderumors.com), who are both pretty meh. If you're a reliever in the low minors you're probably not going to make it.
Another great buy-low move. Here's hoping Bosio can work his apparent magic. Turner's still only 23.
Wada's been much better than I thought he could be. Is Chris Bosio a fucking wizard or something? If they do get Lester or Price would either of them ever lose?
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Wada's been much better than I thought he could be. Is Chris Bosio a fucking wizard or something? If they do get Lester or Price would either of them ever lose?
No.
World Damn Series.
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Wada's been much better than I thought he could be. Is Chris Bosio a fucking wizard or something? If they do get Lester or Price would either of them ever lose?
No.
World Damn Series.
I am planning on being at least 75% more insufferable than normal the next 10 seasons or so.
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Wada's been much better than I thought he could be. Is Chris Bosio a fucking wizard or something? If they do get Lester or Price would either of them ever lose?
No.
World Damn Series.
I am planning on being at least 75% more insufferable than normal the next 10 seasons or so.
so, .65 Chucks then.
So if they can keep Bosio around and just get one ace on the FA market, I think they could pretty regularly trot out a relatively low-cost rotation that looks something like this, with the names changing every few years.
1. Hired ace
2. Another team's failed prospect with great stuff and bad early results, acquired for peanuts
3. Cheap veteran free agent with good peripherals and bad results in the prior year
4. Another team's failed prospect with really good stuff and bad early results, acquired for peanuts
5 through 8. Young rotation filler that was signed for above-slot deals made possible by drafting a college hitter in the 1st round
The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless?
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The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless?
The Cubs have basically been a .500 team against teams outside of the NL Central. They're 20-32 against the NL Central and 59-72 overall. They've been better than their record would indicate. Also, Chris Bosio is a fucking wizard.
Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless they started filling the roster with useful players?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 27, 2014, 01:49:33 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless they started filling the roster with useful players?
I'm inclined to cut Stew a break. But Stew it's coming. It really is. Like, next year. Good meaningful games are gonna happen in July and August.
Quote from: Slaky on August 27, 2014, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 27, 2014, 01:49:33 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless they started filling the roster with useful players?
I'm inclined to cut Stew a break. But Stew it's coming. It really is. Like, next year. Good meaningful games are gonna happen in July and August.
Probably. I'm very joyful positive about 2015 right now, but that's because I expect Major Dollars to get spent this offseason on pitching. If they can't land a top starter, we may be limited to "good" but not "meaningful" games until 2016.
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Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless they started filling the roster with useful players?
I'm inclined to cut Stew a break. But Stew it's coming. It really is. Like, next year. Good meaningful games are gonna happen in July and August.
Probably. I'm very joyful positive about 2015 right now, but that's because I expect Major Dollars to get spent this offseason on pitching. If they can't land a top starter, we may be limited to "good" but not "meaningful" games until 2016.
What if Starlin Castro or Javier Baez is the key player in a game? Can it be meaningful?
Quote from: Slaky on August 27, 2014, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 27, 2014, 01:49:33 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless they started filling the roster with useful players?
I'm inclined to cut Stew a break. But Stew it's coming. It really is. Like, next year. Good meaningful games are gonna happen in July and August.
A little more stimulation for our turgid optimisms.
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/next-year-really-might-be-the-year-cubs-fans-082714 (http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/next-year-really-might-be-the-year-cubs-fans-082714)
Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless?
Last August: 8-20
Last September: 9-18
Quote from: Shooter on August 27, 2014, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
The Cubs are 15 and 9 so far in August. Is it my imagination or do they always play their best when their outlook is hopeless?
Last August: 8-20
Last September: 9-18
So yep Stew it is your imagination.
Starlin Castro, done for the year (http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2014/09/castro-has-high-ankle-sprain-likely-out-for-the-year/).
Quote from: Fork on September 03, 2014, 04:51:55 PM
Starlin Castro, done for the year (http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2014/09/castro-has-high-ankle-sprain-likely-out-for-the-year/).
Sucks, but pretty nice bounce back year.
Also, we started this in the SBox a bit ago, but total hits through age-24 season for some of the all-time hits leaders in MLB.
Ty Cobb: 1207
Robin Yount: 1050
Ken Griffey Jr.: 972
Alex Rodriguez: 966
Hank Aaron: 914
Starlin Castro: 846Rogers Hornsby: 838
Cal Ripken: 750
George Brett: 720
Eddie Murray: 712
Derek Jeter: 588
Stan Musial: 584
Tony Gwynn: 559
Willie Mays: 537
Paul Molitor: 534
Pete Rose: 518
It seems like every day there is somebody on the Score talking about trading Castro. They want them to trade a SS with his offensive profile because they might have too many shortstops? Name one other. Baez has to prove he can competently play defense and oh, by the way, learn to hit major league pitching. Addison Russell is still a year away and nobody knows if he can even play yet. What the fuck is wrong with people?
STOP TRYING TO TRADE STARLIN CASTRO YOU HUMAN CENTIPEDE OF WRONG
Quote from: InternetApex on September 03, 2014, 06:22:17 PM
It seems like every day there is somebody on the Score talking about trading Castro. They want them to trade a SS with his offensive profile because they might have too many shortstops? Name one other. Baez has to prove he can competently play defense and oh, by the way, learn to hit major league pitching. Addison Russell is still a year away and nobody knows if he can even play yet. What the fuck is wrong with people?
STOP TRYING TO TRADE STARLIN CASTRO YOU HUMAN CENTIPEDE OF WRONG
Yes.
Internet Chuck + Real Life Chuck = HUMAN CENTIPEDE OF WRONG
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 03, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on September 03, 2014, 06:22:17 PM
It seems like every day there is somebody on the Score talking about trading Castro. They want them to trade a SS with his offensive profile because they might have too many shortstops? Name one other. Baez has to prove he can competently play defense and oh, by the way, learn to hit major league pitching. Addison Russell is still a year away and nobody knows if he can even play yet. What the fuck is wrong with people?
STOP TRYING TO TRADE STARLIN CASTRO YOU HUMAN CENTIPEDE OF WRONG
Yes.
Internet Chuck + Real Life Chuck = HUMAN CENTIPEDE OF WRONG
Cut him in half and the wrong keeps on wiggling.
6 games and counting
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6th place in the draft games and counting
More importanted.
...so I guess the asking price for Stanton just went down?
Quote from: Fork on September 12, 2014, 06:41:36 AM
...so I guess the asking price for Stanton just went down?
Did it?
Quote from: Fork on September 12, 2014, 06:41:36 AM
...so I guess the asking price for Stanton just went down?
I'd trade Dickie Thon for him.
Quote from: Fork on September 12, 2014, 06:41:36 AM
...so I guess the asking price for Stanton just went down?
It's down to Russell, Baez, McKinney, Edwards and Johnson.
Still interested?
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Quote from: Fork on September 12, 2014, 06:41:36 AM
...so I guess the asking price for Stanton just went down?
It's down to Russell, Baez, McKinney, Edwards and Johnson.
Still interested?
I don't think anybody's going to roll the dice until they know they don't have another Ellis Valentine on their hands.
Quote from: Fork on September 12, 2014, 10:37:04 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 12, 2014, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 12, 2014, 06:41:36 AM
...so I guess the asking price for Stanton just went down?
It's down to Russell, Baez, McKinney, Edwards and Johnson.
Still interested?
I don't think anybody's going to roll the dice until they know they don't have another Ellis Valentine on their hands.
I don't think the asking price is going to budge until we know that either.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 12, 2014, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 12, 2014, 06:41:36 AM
...so I guess the asking price for Stanton just went down?
It's down to Russell, Baez, McKinney, Edwards and Johnson.
Still interested?
I'd probably do it, though I'd try to talk them into Almora instead of McKinney.
Seven games and counting
Has any Cub team ever gotten more than the 36 HR's that this team has gotten out of this years rookies?
And will this record be eclipsed next season?
Asking for a friend.
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
but that's not going to matter next spring
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
He is going to be owed money whether they use him or not. Why add insult to injury?
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
At this point, he's draft pick protection.
Quote from: Fork on September 19, 2014, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
At this point, he's draft pick protection.
I really hope today was the last time we'll ever see him in a Cubs uniform.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 19, 2014, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 19, 2014, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
At this point, he's draft pick protection.
I really hope today was the last time we'll ever see him in a Cubs uniform.
Well he'll probably be sitting in the dugout and stuff.
Quote from: Fork on September 19, 2014, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
At this point, he's draft pick protection.
And excellent at it. I'd be in favor of him making every start the rest of the season. Not every fifth day, I mean every day.
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Quote from: PenFoe on September 19, 2014, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 19, 2014, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
At this point, he's draft pick protection.
I really hope today was the last time we'll ever see him in a Cubs uniform.
Well he'll probably be sitting in the dugout and stuff.
No, I don't even want that.
GET OFF MY PLANE.
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Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
At this point, he's draft pick protection.
And excellent at it. I'd be in favor of him making every start the rest of the season. Not every fifth day, I mean every day.
Why not? He's putting up a relief pitcher's pitch counts anyway.
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Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
but that's not going to matter next spring
are you going to pay royalties to Slaky for using his no punctuation bit
Quote from: R-V on September 20, 2014, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:23 PM
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Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
but that's not going to matter next spring
are you going to pay royalties to Slaky for using his no punctuation bit
If not, I could use the cash.
Quote from: Slaky on September 22, 2014, 01:09:53 PM
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Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 19, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Does anyone have a theory as to why Edwin Jackson is a starting pitcher on the roster?
Because he's owed a lot of money
but that's not going to matter next spring
are you going to pay royalties to Slaky for using his no punctuation bit
If not, I could use the cash.
No Im sorry I cant help you out there I gots things to pay for Im going to the motherland
Is it possible that Renteria suffers from narcolepsy?
Quote from: CBStew on September 24, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
Is it possible that Renteria suffers from narcolepsy?
According to the internet, narcolepsy affects one in ever 3,000 Americans. So it is possible. In most cases, though symptoms begin to appear between the ages of 7 to 25 so it's doubtful that Renteria would have made it this far undiagnosed, nor would he have been promoted to his position if he were in fact narcoleptic.
But to answer your original question. Yes! It's possible.
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/narcolepsy/detail_narcolepsy.htm#267403201
I know a guy who is narcoleptic. He once woke up in his car in the middle of a cornfield, completely sober in the middle of the day. His father once broke a bathroom door when he was unresponsive to knocks only to find my friend sound asleep on the toilet. As a teen, he fell asleep in the front row at a Cypress Hill concert, prompting police to wake him up, give him a breathalizer and sobriety test, both of which he passed to their utter disbelief.
Quote from: InternetApex on September 24, 2014, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 24, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
Is it possible that Renteria suffers from narcolepsy?
According to the internet, narcolepsy affects one in ever 3,000 Americans. So it is possible. In most cases, though symptoms begin to appear between the ages of 7 to 25 so it's doubtful that Renteria would have made it this far undiagnosed, nor would he have been promoted to his position if he were in fact narcoleptic.
But to answer your original question. Yes! It's possible.
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/narcolepsy/detail_narcolepsy.htm#267403201
I know a guy who is narcoleptic. He once woke up in his car in the middle of a cornfield, completely sober in the middle of the day. His father once broke a bathroom door when he was unresponsive to knocks only to find my friend sound asleep on the toilet. As a teen, he fell asleep in the front row at a Cypress Hill concert, prompting police to wake him up, give him a breathalizer and sobriety test, both of which he passed to their utter disbelief.
Is Renteria even American?
Quote from: Shooter on September 24, 2014, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on September 24, 2014, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 24, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
Is it possible that Renteria suffers from narcolepsy?
According to the internet, narcolepsy affects one in ever 3,000 Americans. So it is possible. In most cases, though symptoms begin to appear between the ages of 7 to 25 so it's doubtful that Renteria would have made it this far undiagnosed, nor would he have been promoted to his position if he were in fact narcoleptic.
But to answer your original question. Yes! It's possible.
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/narcolepsy/detail_narcolepsy.htm#267403201
I know a guy who is narcoleptic. He once woke up in his car in the middle of a cornfield, completely sober in the middle of the day. His father once broke a bathroom door when he was unresponsive to knocks only to find my friend sound asleep on the toilet. As a teen, he fell asleep in the front row at a Cypress Hill concert, prompting police to wake him up, give him a breathalizer and sobriety test, both of which he passed to their utter disbelief.
Is Renteria even American?
Born: December 25, 1961 (age 52), Harbor City, CA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Renteria
I should start my own thread where I answer people's dumb questions about Ricky Renteria.
Quote from: InternetApex on September 25, 2014, 09:37:18 AM
I should start my own thread where I answer people's dumb questions about Ricky Renteria.
Was Rick Renteria born smiling?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 25, 2014, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on September 25, 2014, 09:37:18 AM
I should start my own thread where I answer people's dumb questions about Ricky Renteria.
Was Rick Renteria born smiling?
It was Christmas Day, so signs point to yes.
Maybe another job (http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=72489) that Pex can apply for?
Quote from: PenFoe on September 25, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
Maybe another job (http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=72489) that Pex can apply for?
In before Al Yellon decries a "crowd prompt" imploring Cubs fans to MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!!
Quote from: PenFoe on September 25, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
Maybe another job (http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=72489) that Pex can apply for?
I hope you guys like Public Enemy.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 25, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
Maybe another job (http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=72489) that Pex can apply for?
I'd be great at this until the first time BMB shows up on the screen.
Quote from: InternetApex on September 26, 2014, 08:37:13 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 25, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
Maybe another job (http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=72489) that Pex can apply for?
I hope you guys like Public Enemy.
"And now...please direct your attention to the Bud Light WrigleyVision presented by Sony...for today's historical Jock Jones Lowlight of the Game, brought to you by the Chicago Tribune."
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on September 26, 2014, 08:37:13 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 25, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
Maybe another job (http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=72489) that Pex can apply for?
I hope you guys like Public Enemy.
"And now...please Jewel-Osco asks that you direct DirectTV your attention to the Bud Light WrigleyVision presented by Sony...for today's historical Jock Jones FleshLight Lowlight of the Game, brought to you by the Chicago Tribune."
Missed opportunities'd.