8 homers in your last 68 ABs gets you your own thread, fella.
Hasn't anyone told you? Prospects don't work out, man.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 04, 2014, 01:57:02 PM
Hasn't anyone told you? Prospects don't work out, man.
He's still alive.
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
:(
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
"Word"
It says it right there in the post.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Pssh. Dubbs doesn't believe in quoting people from the internet, man. He gets all the news coach wants him to here between "sessions".
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 03, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Sahadev Sharma? The Taliban called...
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 04, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 03, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Sahadev Sharma? The Taliban called...
I always though if IAN wanted to actually be funny while being ethnically insensitive instead of just unfunny and ignorant, he'd be all like, "Sahadev? We're talking baseball not
cricket"
Quote from: PANK! on August 04, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 04, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 03, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Sahadev Sharma? The Taliban called...
I always though if IAN wanted to actually be funny while being ethnically insensitive instead of just unfunny and ignorant, he'd be all like, "Sahadev? We're talking baseball not cricket"
IANs not sure what crickets have to do with baseball but they sound nice while he's drifting off to sleep at night on his fanboat.
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 04, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 04, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 03, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Sahadev Sharma? The Taliban called...
I always though if IAN wanted to actually be funny while being ethnically insensitive instead of just unfunny and ignorant, he'd be all like, "Sahadev? We're talking baseball not cricket"
IANs not sure what crickets have to do with baseball but they sound nice while he's drifting off to sleep at night on his fanboat.
I just laughed all loud and shit at work.
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 03:43:49 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Pssh. Dubbs doesn't believe in quoting people from the internet, man. He gets all the news coach wants him to here between "sessions".
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 04, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 03, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Sahadev Sharma? The Taliban called...
Plenty to like right here:
Quote from: @sahadevsharmaDon't love calling anyone out, but consistently crappy work that somehow gets read by a large group is infuriating. Don't get dumber, people
Quote from: @DEvanAltman@sahadevsharma I sometimes feel that your words pierce my very soul.
Quote from: @sahadevsharma@DEvanAltman haha, sorry, but you deserve it! I kid, I kid
Quote from: @DEvanAltman@sahadevsharma Well, sometimes. Though I do wonder who you were talking about, as it's not a small crowd.
Quote from: @StartKyleOrton@sahadevsharma just say Al's name. You know you want to
Quote from: @sahadevsharma@DEvanAltman Al
He's one of us.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 04, 2014, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 04, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 03, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Sahadev Sharma? The Taliban called...
Plenty to like right here:
Quote from: @sahadevsharmaDon't love calling anyone out, but consistently crappy work that somehow gets read by a large group is infuriating. Don't get dumber, people
Quote from: @DEvanAltman@sahadevsharma I sometimes feel that your words pierce my very soul.
Quote from: @sahadevsharma@DEvanAltman haha, sorry, but you deserve it! I kid, I kid
Quote from: @DEvanAltman@sahadevsharma Well, sometimes. Though I do wonder who you were talking about, as it's not a small crowd.
Quote from: @StartKyleOrton@sahadevsharma just say Al's name. You know you want to
Quote from: @sahadevsharma@DEvanAltman Al
He's one of us.
Al responds. (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2014/8/4/5968185/javier-baez-cubs-expectations#249296066)
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 04, 2014, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 04, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 04, 2014, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Word is he'll stay in AA all year and play winter ball.
So the joyful positive for Addison Russell will not head to Iowa.
says who?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/4/5968049/avier-baez-prospect-cubs-starlin-castro
That fuckin guy is your source?
Might as well be Alf with nuggets like these: https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/495031653442813952
So....a couple things here:
1. Marc Normandin and Sahadev Sharma are not only very, very different names, they're entirely different people.
2. Sahadev Sharma is probably a top 3-5 "People you should listen to about the Cubs."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 03, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Sahadev Sharma? The Taliban called...
Plenty to like right here:
Quote from: @sahadevsharmaDon't love calling anyone out, but consistently crappy work that somehow gets read by a large group is infuriating. Don't get dumber, people
Quote from: @DEvanAltman@sahadevsharma I sometimes feel that your words pierce my very soul.
Quote from: @sahadevsharma@DEvanAltman haha, sorry, but you deserve it! I kid, I kid
Quote from: @DEvanAltman@sahadevsharma Well, sometimes. Though I do wonder who you were talking about, as it's not a small crowd.
Quote from: @StartKyleOrton@sahadevsharma just say Al's name. You know you want to
Quote from: @sahadevsharma@DEvanAltman Al
He's one of us.
Al responds. (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2014/8/4/5968185/javier-baez-cubs-expectations#249296066)
Quote from: His AlnessYou know, it's not even worth it.
I know who I am, and why I write what I write. He clearly has zero understanding of that, and his pomposity knows no bounds.
Done with him.
Quote from: Something Called cubmadnessNobody reads his weak KLAW imitating butt anyway
He's a sheep in wolve's clothing. He's quite obviously jealous and clearly petty. And I want to know where he got his expert certification.
Just because a dude had some statistics classes and watches baseball, doesn't make his opinion necessarily better than anyone else.
Quote from: His AlnessThank you.
Hilarious as usual. But if they haven't fired him by now, SB Nation is going to let him keep doing whatever it is that he does until he dies. What a shame, as there are actually some pretty decent blogs on that platform.
statistical classes lol
How do we figure out his Super 2 date?
Can he come up the day after that?
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2015, 11:47:32 AM
How do we figure out his Super 2 date?
Can he come up the day after that?
Super 2 really shouldn't be a consideration for this organization.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2015, 11:47:32 AM
How do we figure out his Super 2 date?
Can he come up the day after that?
Super 2 really shouldn't be a consideration for this organization.
Well, considering I don't really understand how Super 2 works anyway, I'm willing to accept this.
Just looking for when we can be ready for Russell, since it seems less likely they'll bring him up right away.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2015, 11:47:32 AM
How do we figure out his Super 2 date?
Can he come up the day after that?
Super 2 really shouldn't be a consideration for this organization.
Well, considering I don't really understand how Super 2 works anyway, I'm willing to accept this.
Just looking for when we can be ready for Russell, since it seems less likely they'll bring him up right away.
I think sometime after Bryant, but I really will believe them if they say Super 2 isn't a consideration. They've made it very clear that it's important to them as an organization that all of their prospects at least see some time at all three/four levels of the minor leagues. I'm saying Russell is up by June.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 16, 2015, 11:47:32 AM
How do we figure out his Super 2 date?
Can he come up the day after that?
Super 2 really shouldn't be a consideration for this organization.
Well, considering I don't really understand how Super 2 works anyway, I'm willing to accept this.
Just looking for when we can be ready for Russell, since it seems less likely they'll bring him up right away.
Super 2 basically means they go to arbitration a year earlier with him. If Russell is as good as they expect, it may cost them an extra $10-15 million over his last few years of team control. Not really worth delaying his service time, especially since the date changes every year and you don't find out when the cut-off was until after the season.
They will troll us and call up Russell before Bryant.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 16, 2015, 01:15:31 PM
They will troll us and call up Russell before Bryant.
That feels...counter-productive.
So...on to the next one. When does this Addison Russell dude get the call?
Theo sneak attack. He's coming up today with Bryant so that they can split the media's attention.
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2015, 07:28:24 AM
Theo sneak attack. He's coming up today with Bryant so that they can split the media's attention.
I mean, they do need a 2B.
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2015, 07:28:24 AM
Theo sneak attack. He's coming up today with Bryant so that they can split the media's attention.
Oh man, Phil Rogers won't know what hit him.
Wait. Phil Rogers
never knows what's hit him. Carry on.
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush. Even though I would love to see it sooner rather than later.
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
I really want to not care enough about Jonathan Herrera to avoid hating him, but I'm pretty sure I hate him.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
I really want to not care enough about Jonathan Herrera to avoid hating him, but I'm pretty sure I hate him.
I definitely hate him. Do you really think Russell will be up that soon?
Will CJ Edwards come up to help out the pen with Ramirez' untimely demise?
Quote from: Slaky on April 17, 2015, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
I really want to not care enough about Jonathan Herrera to avoid hating him, but I'm pretty sure I hate him.
I definitely hate him. Do you really think Russell will be up that soon?
Will CJ Edwards come up to help out the pen with Ramirez' untimely demise?
My first thought when Neil the Rojo went down.
Quote from: PANK! on April 17, 2015, 10:54:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 17, 2015, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
I really want to not care enough about Jonathan Herrera to avoid hating him, but I'm pretty sure I hate him.
I definitely hate him. Do you really think Russell will be up that soon?
Will CJ Edwards come up to help out the pen with Ramirez' untimely demise?
My first thought when Neil the Rojo went down.
No, they're not going to bring him straight up from AA.
And I still think they bring him up to start, Eli be damned.
Next reliever up will be one of Parker, German, Ortiz or Britton
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 17, 2015, 10:54:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 17, 2015, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
I really want to not care enough about Jonathan Herrera to avoid hating him, but I'm pretty sure I hate him.
I definitely hate him. Do you really think Russell will be up that soon?
Will CJ Edwards come up to help out the pen with Ramirez' untimely demise?
My first thought when Neil the Rojo went down.
No, they're not going to bring him straight up from AA.
And I still think they bring him up to start, Eli be damned.
Next reliever up will be one of Parker, German, Ortiz or Britton
No love for Armando Rivero? Or are you just slotting Parker in ahead of him because he's already on the 40-man?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
Quote from: R-V on April 17, 2015, 11:24:37 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 17, 2015, 10:54:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 17, 2015, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
I really want to not care enough about Jonathan Herrera to avoid hating him, but I'm pretty sure I hate him.
I definitely hate him. Do you really think Russell will be up that soon?
Will CJ Edwards come up to help out the pen with Ramirez' untimely demise?
My first thought when Neil the Rojo went down.
No, they're not going to bring him straight up from AA.
And I still think they bring him up to start, Eli be damned.
Next reliever up will be one of Parker, German, Ortiz or Britton
No love for Armando Rivero? Or are you just slotting Parker in ahead of him because he's already on the 40-man?
Whither Dallas Beeler?
Herrera's blocking Chris Rusin.
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
Soler's also a Golden God with no service time issues.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 17, 2015, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
Soler's also a Golden God with no service time issues.
Service time had better not be a fucking issue for Addison Russell as of today.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 17, 2015, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
Soler's also a Golden God with no service time issues.
If only they could have a Soler/Castro/Rizzo deal hanging in the clubhouse in Iowa for Russell to sign as soon as he comes off the field all sweaty and happy one day, we could see him a lot sooner. That's how NWA broke up though.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 17, 2015, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
Soler's also a Golden God with no service time issues.
Unless they're going to hold Russell down until mid-April of 2016, I don't see how this is relevant.
Quote from: R-V on April 17, 2015, 11:24:37 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 17, 2015, 10:54:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 17, 2015, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
I really want to not care enough about Jonathan Herrera to avoid hating him, but I'm pretty sure I hate him.
I definitely hate him. Do you really think Russell will be up that soon?
Will CJ Edwards come up to help out the pen with Ramirez' untimely demise?
My first thought when Neil the Rojo went down.
No, they're not going to bring him straight up from AA.
And I still think they bring him up to start, Eli be damned.
Next reliever up will be one of Parker, German, Ortiz or Britton
No love for Armando Rivero? Or are you just slotting Parker in ahead of him because he's already on the 40-man?
Rivero isn't ready.
I wish he was.
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
This is all true, but I also don't think it's completely insane for us to cool our damn jets (I can use that saying because I have two kids) and give Russell a couple of weeks to get comfortable playing second so he's not adjusting to Major League pitching AND a new position at the same time.
Quote from: R-V on April 17, 2015, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
This is all true, but I also don't think it's completely insane for us to cool our damn jets (I can use that saying because I have two kids) and give Russell a couple of weeks to get comfortable playing second so he's not adjusting to Major League pitching AND a new position at the same time.
Fine.
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 17, 2015, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
This is all true, but I also don't think it's completely insane for us to cool our damn jets (I can use that saying because I have two kids) and give Russell a couple of weeks to get comfortable playing second so he's not adjusting to Major League pitching AND a new position at the same time.
Fine.
TWO WEEKS BUT THAT'S IT
Quote from: PenFoe on April 17, 2015, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 17, 2015, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 17, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 17, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
And even after Bryant's call-up, Jonathan Herrera is still somehow in the lineup playing 2B. Russell should be up within a week, once he gets a few more games at his new position.
Tommy La Stella will be back by then. I know he's not Addison Russell, but La Stella does play good defense and puts together good AB's so Russell is no rush.
I think people forget that the Cubs now have to balance development and competing. From a development perspective, sure it'd probably be nice if Russell got a full 300 PAs in Iowa (though he probably doesn't need them since he's so advanced). I don't think the "no rush" thing applies here. They just need to see him look relatively comfortable at second.
Edit: And it's not always true that Theo requires prospects to spend significant time at each level. Soler only got a total of 54 games between AA and AAA before getting the call.
This is all true, but I also don't think it's completely insane for us to cool our damn jets (I can use that saying because I have two kids) and give Russell a couple of weeks to get comfortable playing second so he's not adjusting to Major League pitching AND a new position at the same time.
Fine.
TWO WEEKS BUT THAT'S IT
I think he's up by June 1st. On the road, see... *hit by falling piano*
Russell just broke-up Scott Baker's perfect game on an 0-2 count with 2 outs in the final inning (7 innings) of today's game.
Bring 'em up, Epstink.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 20, 2015, 02:00:17 PM
Russell just broke-up Scott Baker's perfect game on an 0-2 count with 2 outs in the final inning (7 innings) of today's game.
Bring 'em up, Epstink.
Scott Baker, huh? Epstink is terrible.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 20, 2015, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 20, 2015, 02:00:17 PM
Russell just broke-up Scott Baker's perfect game on an 0-2 count with 2 outs in the final inning (7 innings) of today's game.
Bring 'em up, Epstink.
Scott Baker, huh? Epstink is terrible.
I lol'd at this. Good work, IAN
Well, here we go. (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/25156722/cubs-are-calling-infield-prodigy-addison-russell-up-to-the-majors)
Quote from: Oleg on April 20, 2015, 11:08:47 PM
Well, here we go. (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/25156722/cubs-are-calling-infield-prodigy-addison-russell-up-to-the-majors)
Fuck. Yes
Attention, pitchers of the NL Central ... come out to play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHoJf2gXXw8) ...
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2093hfo.png)
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 21, 2015, 12:09:02 AM
Attention, pitchers of the NL Central ... come out to play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHoJf2gXXw8) ...
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2093hfo.png)
Quit ruining stuff. Please.
When's Schwarber coming up?
I like to play guess the corresponding roster moves...
I'm not sure if this works because I don't know all the rules, but Russell isn't on the 40-man which is at 40 (with Jacob Turner on the 60-day DL). Transfer Mike Olt to the 60-day DL (he's in a cast for 3 weeks and then will likely have to rehab for about 3-4 weeks after or longer), send Alcantara to Iowa and purchase the contract of Russell?
Today is a great day.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2015, 08:52:52 AM
I like to play guess the corresponding roster moves...
I'm not sure if this works because I don't know all the rules, but Russell isn't on the 40-man which is at 40 (with Jacob Turner on the 60-day DL). Transfer Mike Olt to the 60-day DL (he's in a cast for 3 weeks and then will likely have to rehab for about 3-4 weeks after or longer), send Alcantara to Iowa and purchase the contract of Russell?
Today is a great day.
I think that'll be it. Rumor is Mendy is definitely the one being sent down, at least, and he certainly should be.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 08:54:27 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2015, 08:52:52 AM
I like to play guess the corresponding roster moves...
I'm not sure if this works because I don't know all the rules, but Russell isn't on the 40-man which is at 40 (with Jacob Turner on the 60-day DL). Transfer Mike Olt to the 60-day DL (he's in a cast for 3 weeks and then will likely have to rehab for about 3-4 weeks after or longer), send Alcantara to Iowa and purchase the contract of Russell?
Today is a great day.
I think that'll be it. Rumor is Mendy is definitely the one being sent down, at least, and he certainly should be.
Muskat had Mendy going down. Another possible move would be Wada to the 60 day. That would keep him out about another 5 weeks. Haven't seen a schedule on him.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 21, 2015, 08:59:07 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 08:54:27 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2015, 08:52:52 AM
I like to play guess the corresponding roster moves...
I'm not sure if this works because I don't know all the rules, but Russell isn't on the 40-man which is at 40 (with Jacob Turner on the 60-day DL). Transfer Mike Olt to the 60-day DL (he's in a cast for 3 weeks and then will likely have to rehab for about 3-4 weeks after or longer), send Alcantara to Iowa and purchase the contract of Russell?
Today is a great day.
I think that'll be it. Rumor is Mendy is definitely the one being sent down, at least, and he certainly should be.
Muskat had Mendy going down. Another possible move would be Wada to the 60 day. That would keep him out about another 5 weeks. Haven't seen a schedule on him.
Want a live action scouting report? I watched Wada pitch Friday. His control was terrible and everything he left over the plate got smoked. It was a minor miracle he only gave 1 run. I wouldn't want him up in the big leagues, but he seemed close enough to healthy that the 60 day DL doesn't make a ton of sense for him. Olt makes more sense, considering the cast won't even come off for a month.
They could just DFA Herrera.
Quote from: Oleg on April 21, 2015, 09:07:53 AM
They could just DFA Herrera.
I doubt they'd leave themselves without a single backup infielder, but Herrerra's gone as soon as La Stella gets back, I'm sure. I hope so. Oh God what if he isn't.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
Quote from: Oleg on April 21, 2015, 09:07:53 AM
They could just DFA Herrera.
I doubt they'd leave themselves without a single backup infielder, but Herrerra's gone as soon as La Stella gets back, I'm sure. I hope so. Oh God what if he isn't.
We could always enlist your neighbors to raise another FIREBARN.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
... I doubt they'd leave themselves without a single backup infielder...
But David Ross being on the roster
definitely isn't a problem.
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
... I doubt they'd leave themselves without a single backup infielder...
But David Ross being on the roster definitely isn't a problem.
Certainly not, and even if it were, could we get angry at him about that, really?
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:26:44 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
... I doubt they'd leave themselves without a single backup infielder...
But David Ross being on the roster definitely isn't a problem.
Certainly not, and even if it were, could we get angry at him about that, really?
With Mendy going down by staying on the 40-man, I think Dallas Beeler goes to the 60-day DL.
Could be Olt, but Beeler is my guess. They've got 100 Dallas Beelers at the ready.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:26:44 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
... I doubt they'd leave themselves without a single backup infielder...
But David Ross being on the roster definitely isn't a problem.
Certainly not, and even if it were, could we get angry at him about that, really?
David Ross just makes the
worst personnel decisions!
Quote from: ChuckD on April 21, 2015, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:26:44 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
... I doubt they'd leave themselves without a single backup infielder...
But David Ross being on the roster definitely isn't a problem.
Certainly not, and even if it were, could we get angry at him about that, really?
David Ross just makes the worst personnel decisions!
He's Jim Hendry with a beard.
So, Mike Olt to the 60-day DL and Alcantara to Iowa. Without Baez, Iowa's lineup is a sadness bowl. Maybe Vogelbach will get promoted in a few weeks and Baez can come back from being with his family. Other than that...we have Schwarber to sploosh over and...? Brian McKinney? C. J. Edwards? Jake Stinnett? Yeah there's still lot of sploosh left in this nut canister.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2015, 03:20:04 PM
So, Mike Olt to the 60-day DL and Alcantara to Iowa. Without Baez, Iowa's lineup is a sadness bowl. Maybe Vogelbach will get promoted in a few weeks and Baez can come back from being with his family. Other than that...we have Schwarber to sploosh over and...? Brian McKinney? C. J. Edwards? Jake Stinnett? Yeah there's still lot of sploosh left in this nut canister.
Is Brian McKinney related to Billy McKinney?
And yeah my hope is at least a midseason promotion to Iowa for Schwarber and Vogelbach so I can watch some fat guy homers.
I'm kidding, because I will have like a 2 month old baby and I will never do anything fun again.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2015, 03:20:04 PM
So, Mike Olt to the 60-day DL and Alcantara to Iowa. Without Baez, Iowa's lineup is a sadness bowl. Maybe Vogelbach will get promoted in a few weeks and Baez can come back from being with his family. Other than that...we have Schwarber to sploosh over and...? Brian McKinney? C. J. Edwards? Jake Stinnett? Yeah there's still lot of sploosh left in this nut canister.
Is Brian McKinney related to Billy McKinney?
And yeah my hope is at least a midseason promotion to Iowa for Schwarber and Vogelbach so I can watch some fat guy homers.
I'm kidding, because I will have like a 2 month old baby and I will never do anything fun again.
My apologies to Billy McKinney. I'm drunk.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2015, 03:20:04 PM
So, Mike Olt to the 60-day DL and Alcantara to Iowa. Without Baez, Iowa's lineup is a sadness bowl. Maybe Vogelbach will get promoted in a few weeks and Baez can come back from being with his family. Other than that...we have Schwarber to sploosh over and...? Brian McKinney? C. J. Edwards? Jake Stinnett? Yeah there's still lot of sploosh left in this nut canister.
Is Brian McKinney related to Billy McKinney?
And yeah my hope is at least a midseason promotion to Iowa for Schwarber and Vogelbach so I can watch some fat guy homers.
I'm kidding, because I will have like a 2 month old baby and I will never do anything fun again.
The trick is to brainwash yourself into believing the things you do with the baby are more fun than any of the awesome things you did before they were born, like Cyndi Lauper karaoke, hailing cabs, and wearing belts.
Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2015, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2015, 03:20:04 PM
So, Mike Olt to the 60-day DL and Alcantara to Iowa. Without Baez, Iowa's lineup is a sadness bowl. Maybe Vogelbach will get promoted in a few weeks and Baez can come back from being with his family. Other than that...we have Schwarber to sploosh over and...? Brian McKinney? C. J. Edwards? Jake Stinnett? Yeah there's still lot of sploosh left in this nut canister.
Is Brian McKinney related to Billy McKinney?
And yeah my hope is at least a midseason promotion to Iowa for Schwarber and Vogelbach so I can watch some fat guy homers.
I'm kidding, because I will have like a 2 month old baby and I will never do anything fun again.
The trick is to brainwash yourself into believing the things you do with the baby are more fun than any of the awesome things you did before they were born, like Cyndi Lauper karaoke, hailing cabs, and wearing belts.
Errrr...
Addison, there's someone close to you who knows what it's like to come back from a 3K 0-for debut. Talk him up.
Fangraphs with some PLAYER COMPS (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-addison-russell/), sure to make Pen happy:
QuoteSince he joined the Cubs organization last July, Russell has drawn a walk in just under 4% of his trips to the plate. Even in a small sample of games, such a low walk rate should raise some eyebrows, especially coming from a player who hits for as much power as Russell does. These sparse walks might be a sign that he's apt to chase pitches outside of the strike zone. And as we saw with Javier Baez last year, this is a flaw that can be a real problem if it's exploited by big league pitching.
To try and zero in on players with Russell's unique combination of low-walk high-power skill set, let's pull up some comps. Below, you'll find a list of all hitters aged 19-21 whose league-adjusted walk rate, strikeout rate, BABIP, ISO and stolen base frequency fell within 1.25 standard deviations of Russell's marks from Double-A. The table includes each of these hitters' major league stats through age 28.
Player/WAR through age 28
Carlos Gonzalez 18.6
Jose Vidro 14.3
Javy Lopez 13.9
Tony Batista 13.0
Jermaine Dye 10.3
Juan Encarnacion 5.5
Randal Grichuk 0.6
Arquimedez Pozo -0.5
Kevin Witt -0.6
Ruben Mateo -1.6
Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 12:01:46 PM
Fangraphs with some PLAYER COMPS (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-addison-russell/), sure to make Pen happy:
QuoteSince he joined the Cubs organization last July, Russell has drawn a walk in just under 4% of his trips to the plate. Even in a small sample of games, such a low walk rate should raise some eyebrows, especially coming from a player who hits for as much power as Russell does. These sparse walks might be a sign that he's apt to chase pitches outside of the strike zone. And as we saw with Javier Baez last year, this is a flaw that can be a real problem if it's exploited by big league pitching.
To try and zero in on players with Russell's unique combination of low-walk high-power skill set, let's pull up some comps. Below, you'll find a list of all hitters aged 19-21 whose league-adjusted walk rate, strikeout rate, BABIP, ISO and stolen base frequency fell within 1.25 standard deviations of Russell's marks from Double-A. The table includes each of these hitters' major league stats through age 28.
Player/WAR through age 28
Carlos Gonzalez 18.6
Jose Vidro 14.3
Javy Lopez 13.9
Tony Batista 13.0
Jermaine Dye 10.3
Juan Encarnacion 5.5
Randal Grichuk 0.6
Arquimedez Pozo -0.5
Kevin Witt -0.6
Ruben Mateo -1.6
I had completly forgotten about Jose Vidro but holy shit would I take that from Addison Russell. That dude was good.
Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 12:01:46 PM
Fangraphs with some PLAYER COMPS (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-addison-russell/), sure to make Pen happy:
QuoteSince he joined the Cubs organization last July, Russell has drawn a walk in just under 4% of his trips to the plate. Even in a small sample of games, such a low walk rate should raise some eyebrows, especially coming from a player who hits for as much power as Russell does. These sparse walks might be a sign that he's apt to chase pitches outside of the strike zone. And as we saw with Javier Baez last year, this is a flaw that can be a real problem if it's exploited by big league pitching.
To try and zero in on players with Russell's unique combination of low-walk high-power skill set, let's pull up some comps. Below, you'll find a list of all hitters aged 19-21 whose league-adjusted walk rate, strikeout rate, BABIP, ISO and stolen base frequency fell within 1.25 standard deviations of Russell's marks from Double-A. The table includes each of these hitters' major league stats through age 28.
Player/WAR through age 28
Carlos Gonzalez 18.6
Jose Vidro 14.3
Javy Lopez 13.9
Tony Batista 13.0
Jermaine Dye 10.3
Juan Encarnacion 5.5
Randal Grichuk 0.6
Arquimedez Pozo -0.5
Kevin Witt -0.6
Ruben Mateo -1.6
I had completly forgotten about Jose Vidro but holy shit would I take that from Addison Russell. That dude was good.
Vidro's bat with even average defense would be awesome.
Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 12:37:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 12:01:46 PM
Fangraphs with some PLAYER COMPS (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-addison-russell/), sure to make Pen happy:
QuoteSince he joined the Cubs organization last July, Russell has drawn a walk in just under 4% of his trips to the plate. Even in a small sample of games, such a low walk rate should raise some eyebrows, especially coming from a player who hits for as much power as Russell does. These sparse walks might be a sign that he's apt to chase pitches outside of the strike zone. And as we saw with Javier Baez last year, this is a flaw that can be a real problem if it's exploited by big league pitching.
To try and zero in on players with Russell's unique combination of low-walk high-power skill set, let's pull up some comps. Below, you'll find a list of all hitters aged 19-21 whose league-adjusted walk rate, strikeout rate, BABIP, ISO and stolen base frequency fell within 1.25 standard deviations of Russell's marks from Double-A. The table includes each of these hitters' major league stats through age 28.
Player/WAR through age 28
Carlos Gonzalez 18.6
Jose Vidro 14.3
Javy Lopez 13.9
Tony Batista 13.0
Jermaine Dye 10.3
Juan Encarnacion 5.5
Randal Grichuk 0.6
Arquimedez Pozo -0.5
Kevin Witt -0.6
Ruben Mateo -1.6
I had completly forgotten about Jose Vidro but holy shit would I take that from Addison Russell. That dude was good.
Vidro's bat with even average defense would be awesome.
Just waiting for Pen to roll in and bitch that we ignored the Barry Larkin/Jeter comps and act like second baseman who post an OPS+ of 111 through age 29 grow on trees (although I'd have to imagine Vidro's #s today would be more like OPS+ of 125).
Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 12:39:59 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 12:37:42 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 12:01:46 PM
Fangraphs with some PLAYER COMPS (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-addison-russell/), sure to make Pen happy:
QuoteSince he joined the Cubs organization last July, Russell has drawn a walk in just under 4% of his trips to the plate. Even in a small sample of games, such a low walk rate should raise some eyebrows, especially coming from a player who hits for as much power as Russell does. These sparse walks might be a sign that he's apt to chase pitches outside of the strike zone. And as we saw with Javier Baez last year, this is a flaw that can be a real problem if it's exploited by big league pitching.
To try and zero in on players with Russell's unique combination of low-walk high-power skill set, let's pull up some comps. Below, you'll find a list of all hitters aged 19-21 whose league-adjusted walk rate, strikeout rate, BABIP, ISO and stolen base frequency fell within 1.25 standard deviations of Russell's marks from Double-A. The table includes each of these hitters' major league stats through age 28.
Player/WAR through age 28
Carlos Gonzalez 18.6
Jose Vidro 14.3
Javy Lopez 13.9
Tony Batista 13.0
Jermaine Dye 10.3
Juan Encarnacion 5.5
Randal Grichuk 0.6
Arquimedez Pozo -0.5
Kevin Witt -0.6
Ruben Mateo -1.6
I had completly forgotten about Jose Vidro but holy shit would I take that from Addison Russell. That dude was good.
Vidro's bat with even average defense would be awesome.
Just waiting for Pen to roll in and bitch that we ignored the Barry Larkin/Jeter comps and act like second baseman who post an OPS+ of 111 through age 29 grow on trees (although I'd have to imagine Vidro's #s today would be more like OPS+ of 125).
Great, another injury-prone loser who peaked at 25 and was out of the league by 33.
Y'all suck at this.
Bump
So, Addison Russell hits his first MLB HR before Kris Bryant.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
He's looked pretty useful defensively. I positive Russell, I think, all in all.
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
Soler's and Russell's K's are making me uncomfortable.
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
It's not great, but he actually seems to have a pretty good understanding of the strike zone? I'd have to see the datase but it seems to me like he's mostly just missing stuff in the zone, which is understandable for a 21 year old who basically skipped AAA and is learning on the fly vs. big league pitching. He doesn't seem to be a free swinger like Javy.
I feel like he's catching up and while it's probably going to take him a while to develop the patience to walk he should at least make more contact and bring that K rate down.
He's good. I like him. Once this team has been gutted of all the gutless fucking assholes Addison and Kris and Rizzo and Jorge will mend all of the broken hearts. For right now, though, they is broken.
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
I'm starting to understand that his numbers will probably not look too good this year, but the experience will reward him ten-fold in future years, and he can still be expected to do things that help them win now from time to time. He's one of the guys who's expanding the strike zone on those breaking balls in the dirt, but I don't expect that to be a long-term habit. He's then youngest player in the league right?
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
He's then youngest player in the league right?
Rougned Odor is 10 days younger and Dilson Herrera is about a month younger. But for all intents and purposes, yes.
Quote from: Eli on May 05, 2015, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
He's then youngest player in the league right?
Rougned Odor is 10 days younger and Dilson Herrera is about a month younger. But for all intents and purposes, yes.
Roberto Osuna is about a year younger than Russell. He just turned 20 in February.
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 10:20:22 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 05, 2015, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
He's then youngest player in the league right?
Rougned Odor is 10 days younger and Dilson Herrera is about a month younger. But for all intents and purposes, yes.
Roberto Osuna is about a year younger than Russell. He just turned 20 in February.
Yeah right, all these guys are probably 37.
Quote from: Eli on May 05, 2015, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
He's then youngest player in the league right?
Rougned Odor is 10 days younger and Dilson Herrera is about a month younger. But for all intents and purposes, yes.
I love my Large Adult Dilson
Man we should be bumping this more often, too. He's got that opposite field stroke down.
Russell in May: .279/.333/.475/.809. K % is down to 32% from 48% in April. His OPS+ on the season overall is up to 92. We live in exciting times.
4 walks, 3 K's in his last four games. Really fun to watch him figure it out.
Bump.
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2015, 08:19:24 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2015, 10:27:35 PM
Bump.
QPD alert, please.
Sorry I'm apparently the only one who loves Addison Russell here. I think it's safe to say from now on none of you are allowed to like him.
Bump
I still don't understand how this guy was ever traded. I know what Billy Beane was thinking. I know what positon the A's were in last year. I still can't believe someone traded this dude at 20 years old. He's now got a 101 OPS plus as a 21 year old rookie. In May he hit .273/.321/.485/.806. He's on pace for a 5+ WAR season.
AS A 21 YEAR OLD ROOKIE.
That trade was such a steal I sometimes just think of it randomly and laugh maniacally.
Quote from: SKO on June 01, 2015, 10:49:05 AM
I still don't understand how this guy was ever traded. I know what Billy Beane was thinking. I know what positon the A's were in last year. I still can't believe someone traded this dude at 20 years old. He's now got a 101 OPS plus as a 21 year old rookie. In May he hit .273/.321/.485/.806. He's on pace for a 5+ WAR season.
AS A 21 YEAR OLD ROOKIE.
That trade was such a steal I sometimes just think of it randomly and laugh maniacally.
If you really want to cheer yourself up, go and take a look at what was written about Russell in the A's online community and media before he was traded. They knew how good he was going to be. It must really, really fucking sting to have let him go for, as it turned out, absolutely fuck all.
Quote from: SKO on June 01, 2015, 10:49:05 AM
He's on pace for a 5+ WAR season.
Holy shit, he is. Another few weeks of this and he'll be 3rd on the Cubs in WAR (just a bit behind Montero and Fowler), despite giving everyone else nearly a month's head start.
Quote from: SKO on June 01, 2015, 10:49:05 AM
I still don't understand how this guy was ever traded. I know what Billy Beane was thinking. I know what positon the A's were in last year. I still can't believe someone traded this dude at 20 years old. He's now got a 101 OPS plus as a 21 year old rookie. In May he hit .273/.321/.485/.806. He's on pace for a 5+ WAR season.
AS A 21 YEAR OLD ROOKIE.
That trade was such a steal I sometimes just think of it randomly and laugh maniacally.
Think of it as repayment for Josh Donaldson.
Quote from: Eli on June 01, 2015, 10:55:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 01, 2015, 10:49:05 AM
He's on pace for a 5+ WAR season.
Holy shit, he is. Another few weeks of this and he'll be 3rd on the Cubs in WAR (just a bit behind Montero and Fowler), despite giving everyone else nearly a month's head start.
And he's just ahead of Chris Coghlan, who is ahead of Jorge Soler, largely due to his 2.4 dWAR. I...this world makes no sense anymore. No sense. Clutch Coghlan Forever.
I think this dude is okay at the playing of the baseball. Just my hot take.
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
I'm starting to understand that his numbers will probably not look too good this year, but the experience will reward him ten-fold in future years, and he can still be expected to do things that help them win now from time to time. He's one of the guys who's expanding the strike zone on those breaking balls in the dirt, but I don't expect that to be a long-term habit. He's then youngest player in the league right?
I stand by my HOT TAEK. The kid's had so many big hits for a rookie in spite of his numbers not exactly demonstrating high-caliber production. The numbers will come; in the meantime, he has been a perfectly fine contributor to the team with the 6th best record in baseball currently. His defensive play has been as good as I had hoped for also. Yay Addison.
Quote from: PANK! on June 18, 2015, 08:48:10 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
I'm starting to understand that his numbers will probably not look too good this year, but the experience will reward him ten-fold in future years, and he can still be expected to do things that help them win now from time to time. He's one of the guys who's expanding the strike zone on those breaking balls in the dirt, but I don't expect that to be a long-term habit. He's then youngest player in the league right?
I stand by my HOT TAEK. The kid's had so many big hits for a rookie in spite of his numbers not exactly demonstrating high-caliber production. The numbers will come; in the meantime, he has been a perfectly fine contributor to the team with the 6th best record in baseball currently. His defensive play has been as good as I had hoped for also. Yay Addison.
On a per-game basis, he's been the best defensive second baseman in baseball. Perfect example of the numbers bearing out what we see.
Quote from: PANK! on June 18, 2015, 08:48:10 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
I'm starting to understand that his numbers will probably not look too good this year, but the experience will reward him ten-fold in future years, and he can still be expected to do things that help them win now from time to time. He's one of the guys who's expanding the strike zone on those breaking balls in the dirt, but I don't expect that to be a long-term habit. He's then youngest player in the league right?
I stand by my HOT TAEK. The kid's had so many big hits for a rookie in spite of his numbers not exactly demonstrating high-caliber production. The numbers will come; in the meantime, he has been a perfectly fine contributor to the team with the 6th best record in baseball currently. His defensive play has been as good as I had hoped for also. Yay Addison.
He's got a 103 OPS+ as a rookie. He posted an OPS of .806 in May and is at .741 so far in June, both of which are very good for a second baseman of any age or experience level these days. I think there's a pretty solid chance his offensive numbers actually might end up looking pretty good. To say nothing of him being,
as Eli noted on twitter a while back, one of the best defensive 2B in the league in terms of WAR on a per game basis. He's still on pace for about 5 WAR as a fucking 21 year old rookie. *cackles maniacally*
EDITED: or as Eli noted right before I hit post. Goddammit.
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 18, 2015, 08:48:10 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 01, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
So, Addison Russell hits his first second MLB HR before Kris Bryant hits his first.
Who saw that coming? Russell also has a 7 game hitting streak going -- so there's that. But the 20:1 K:BB ratio is definitely a bad look.
I'm starting to understand that his numbers will probably not look too good this year, but the experience will reward him ten-fold in future years, and he can still be expected to do things that help them win now from time to time. He's one of the guys who's expanding the strike zone on those breaking balls in the dirt, but I don't expect that to be a long-term habit. He's then youngest player in the league right?
I stand by my HOT TAEK. The kid's had so many big hits for a rookie in spite of his numbers not exactly demonstrating high-caliber production. The numbers will come; in the meantime, he has been a perfectly fine contributor to the team with the 6th best record in baseball currently. His defensive play has been as good as I had hoped for also. Yay Addison.
He's got a 103 OPS+ as a rookie. He posted an OPS of .806 in May and is at .741 so far in June, both of which are very good for a second baseman of any age or experience level these days. I think there's a pretty solid chance his offensive numbers actually might end up looking pretty good. To say nothing of him being, as Eli noted on twitter a while back, one of the best defensive 2B in the league in terms of WAR on a per game basis. He's still on pace for about 5 WAR as a fucking 21 year old rookie. *cackles maniacally*
EDITED: or as Eli noted right before I hit post. Goddammit.
I watched that diving play behind 2B over and over and over and it got more and more and more impressive each time. He's an incredible athlete.
Last 7 days: .368/.478/.526/1.005
Last 14: .325/.426/.450/.876
Last 28: .297/.381/.446/.827.
Up to 1.5 fWAR, 1.9 bWAR.
*still cackling maniacally*
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2015, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
He does shit we haven't seen in these parts since the days of corncob dresses.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 22, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2015, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
He does shit we haven't seen in these parts since the days of corncob dresses.
I'd ... really like to see him at shortstop. Sorry, Starlin.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 22, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2015, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
He does shit we haven't seen in these parts since the days of corncob dresses.
Good call. Watching that play (and the batter assuming it was ticketed for CF), and seeing how Russell made it almost look routine--precisely
because it wasn't a circus play that involved diving and hookers and fire trucks and such--reminded me of Sandberg. The kid was well--positioned and seemed to have gotten a freakishly, almost anticipatory, jump on the ball.
Quote from: PANK! on June 22, 2015, 01:40:27 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 22, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2015, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
He does shit we haven't seen in these parts since the days of corncob dresses.
Good call. Watching that play (and the batter assuming it was ticketed for CF), and seeing how Russell made it almost look routine--precisely because it wasn't a circus play that involved diving and hookers and fire trucks and such--reminded me of Sandberg. The kid was well--positioned and seemed to have gotten a freakishly, almost anticipatory, jump on the ball.
Ah, that classic Sandberg positioning. Morph knows what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 22, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 22, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2015, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
He does shit we haven't seen in these parts since the days of corncob dresses.
I'd ... really like to see him at shortstop. Sorry, Starlin.
I kinda don't. If he's literally already the best second baseman in baseball on a per play basis maybe just leave him there. He supposedly has less range than Starlin and less of an arm than Baez, so if he might only be a pretty good shortstop vs. Ryne Sandberg at 2B, why not just let him be Sandberg? That's a pretty valuable thing, too.
Quote from: PANK! on June 22, 2015, 01:40:27 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 22, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2015, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
He does shit we haven't seen in these parts since the days of corncob dresses.
Good call. Watching that play (and the batter assuming it was ticketed for CF), and seeing how Russell made it almost look routine--precisely because it wasn't a circus play that involved diving and hookers and fire trucks and such--reminded me of Sandberg. The kid was well--positioned and seemed to have gotten a freakishly, almost anticipatory, jump on the ball.
So, he's ready for a Hanks-Zmed production?
Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2015, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 22, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 22, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2015, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
He does shit we haven't seen in these parts since the days of corncob dresses.
I'd ... really like to see him at shortstop. Sorry, Starlin.
I kinda don't. If he's literally already the best second baseman in baseball on a per play basis maybe just leave him there. He supposedly has less range than Starlin and less of an arm than Baez, so if he might only be a pretty good shortstop vs. Ryne Sandberg at 2B, why not just let him be Sandberg? That's a pretty valuable thing, too.
So I'm assuming you want him to stay hitting 9th his whole career too, since he's already the best hitter there.
Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2015, 02:11:43 PM
I kinda don't. If he's literally already the best second baseman in baseball on a per play basis maybe just leave him there. He supposedly has less range than Starlin and less of an arm than Baez, so if he might only be a pretty good shortstop vs. Ryne Sandberg at 2B, why not just let him be Sandberg? That's a pretty valuable thing, too.
I think he's shot that scouting report to shit.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 22, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2015, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 22, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 22, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2015, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 22, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
I really enjoyed the way, in yesterday's game, that Herrmann was fixing to take a turn round first only to look up and discover that, not only had Russell got to his ground ball up the middle, but he'd got it to Rizzo's mitt with about twenty minutes to spare.
I noticed that too...he's just so good.
He does shit we haven't seen in these parts since the days of corncob dresses.
I'd ... really like to see him at shortstop. Sorry, Starlin.
I kinda don't. If he's literally already the best second baseman in baseball on a per play basis maybe just leave him there. He supposedly has less range than Starlin and less of an arm than Baez, so if he might only be a pretty good shortstop vs. Ryne Sandberg at 2B, why not just let him be Sandberg? That's a pretty valuable thing, too.
So I'm assuming you want him to stay hitting 9th his whole career too, since he's already the best hitter there.
I don't think those two things are the same, no. I mean if they move Starlin and move Addison to SS I have no objections. I just think it's entirely possible if Baez has the better range and arm and Addison is literally gonna just be the best second baseman in the majors, full stop, that might be the best defensive lineup the team has.
That AB against Jansen - even though he didn't win the game, he battled and made great contact. And the leaping grab. Addison is awesome.
I hope he starts hitting again soon not because I'm worried but because Cubs fans bitching about Addison Russell having the gall to struggle a bit as a 21 year old rookie are the worst people on Earth and I want them to shut the fuck up.
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
I hope he starts hitting again soon not because I'm worried but because Cubs fans bitching about Addison Russell having the gall to struggle a bit as a 21 year old rookie are the worst people on Earth and I want them to shut the fuck up.
Never change, SKO.
Or change, but be sure to quickly change back.
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2015, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
I hope he starts hitting again soon not because I'm worried but because Cubs fans bitching about Addison Russell having the gall to struggle a bit as a 21 year old rookie are the worst people on Earth and I want them to shut the fuck up.
Never change, SKO.
Or change, but be sure to quickly change back.
Actually my stance this year has been to blame everyone BUT the rookies. Especially not Addison. The guy had barely a week in AAA. Gold Glove caliber defense and a .680ish OPS is more than fair from him as a 21 year old rookie, anything more is gravy.
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2015, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
I hope he starts hitting again soon not because I'm worried but because Cubs fans bitching about Addison Russell having the gall to struggle a bit as a 21 year old rookie are the worst people on Earth and I want them to shut the fuck up.
Never change, SKO.
Or change, but be sure to quickly change back.
Actually my stance this year has been to blame everyone BUT the rookies. Especially not Addison. The guy had barely a week in AAA. Gold Glove caliber defense and a .680ish OPS is more than fair from him as a 21 year old rookie, anything more is gravy.
More gravy, please.
Quote from: ChuckD on July 06, 2015, 09:43:57 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2015, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
I hope he starts hitting again soon not because I'm worried but because Cubs fans bitching about Addison Russell having the gall to struggle a bit as a 21 year old rookie are the worst people on Earth and I want them to shut the fuck up.
Never change, SKO.
Or change, but be sure to quickly change back.
Actually my stance this year has been to blame everyone BUT the rookies. Especially not Addison. The guy had barely a week in AAA. Gold Glove caliber defense and a .680ish OPS is more than fair from him as a 21 year old rookie, anything more is gravy.
More gravy, please.
It would be nice if Starlin wanted to start hitting and pick up his middle infield partner when he's struggling, but alas.
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:45:52 AM
It would be nice if Starlin wanted to start hitting and pick up his middle infield partner when he's struggling, but alas.
I'm sure he wants to.
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2015, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
I hope he starts hitting again soon not because I'm worried but because Cubs fans bitching about Addison Russell having the gall to struggle a bit as a 21 year old rookie are the worst people on Earth and I want them to shut the fuck up.
Never change, SKO.
Or change, but be sure to quickly change back.
Actually my stance this year has been to blame everyone BUT the rookies. Especially not Addison. The guy had barely a week in AAA. Gold Glove caliber defense and a .680ish OPS is more than fair from him as a 21 year old rookie, anything more is gravy.
Yeah, hi...my comment was about how so much of your output revolves around morons--real or imaginary--who spout stupid shit. Rather than block, un-follow, ignore, pretend-they-don't-exist, what have you, you expend an entertainingly high amount of energy complaining about these genetic mishaps.
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2015, 09:48:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2015, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
I hope he starts hitting again soon not because I'm worried but because Cubs fans bitching about Addison Russell having the gall to struggle a bit as a 21 year old rookie are the worst people on Earth and I want them to shut the fuck up.
Never change, SKO.
Or change, but be sure to quickly change back.
Actually my stance this year has been to blame everyone BUT the rookies. Especially not Addison. The guy had barely a week in AAA. Gold Glove caliber defense and a .680ish OPS is more than fair from him as a 21 year old rookie, anything more is gravy.
Yeah, hi...my comment was about how so much of your output revolves around morons--real or imaginary--who spout stupid shit. Rather than block, un-follow, ignore, pretend-they-don't-exist, what have you, you expend an entertainingly high amount of energy complaining about these genetic mishaps.
To be fair, he does live in Iowa.
Quote from: Eli on July 06, 2015, 09:47:15 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 06, 2015, 09:45:52 AM
It would be nice if Starlin wanted to start hitting and pick up his middle infield partner when he's struggling, but alas.
I'm sure he wants to.
Big, if true
I could bump the thread for just about every Cubs position player but Addison especially deserves to be singled out.
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2015, 06:27:03 PM
I could bump the thread for just about every Cubs position player but Addison especially deserves to be singled out.
You beat me to it.
So now what do they do with him?
Quote from: flannj on August 08, 2015, 06:28:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2015, 06:27:03 PM
I could bump the thread for just about every Cubs position player but Addison especially deserves to be singled out.
You beat me to it.
So now what do they do with him?
Leave him at short for the next 15 years
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2015, 06:40:31 PM
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Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2015, 06:27:03 PM
I could bump the thread for just about every Cubs position player but Addison especially deserves to be singled out.
You beat me to it.
So now what do they do with him?
Leave him at short for the next 15 years
Works for me.
Bump. But some people like Jeff Samardzija and all.
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Bump. But some people like Jeff Samardzija and all.
Those nefarious Strawmen'll getcha every time, SKO.
Quote from: PANK! on September 04, 2015, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Bump. But some people like Jeff Samardzija and all.
Those nefarious Strawmen'll getcha every time, SKO.
I was talking about Billy Beane
Quote from: PANK! on September 04, 2015, 03:31:05 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 04, 2015, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Bump. But some people like Jeff Samardzija and all.
Those nefarious Strawmen'll getcha every time, SKO.
I was talking about Billy Beane
Oh.
I personally don't know anyone who hated the trade, thank god. Unless you count Yellon.
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 03:39:25 PM
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Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 04, 2015, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Bump. But some people like Jeff Samardzija and all.
Those nefarious Strawmen'll getcha every time, SKO.
I was talking about Billy Beane
Oh.
I personally don't know anyone who hated the trade, thank god. Unless you count Yellon.
Man, I thought you were kidding. You weren't.
Quote from: ChuckD on September 04, 2015, 03:49:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 03:39:25 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 04, 2015, 03:31:05 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 04, 2015, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Bump. But some people like Jeff Samardzija and all.
Those nefarious Strawmen'll getcha every time, SKO.
I was talking about Billy Beane
Oh.
I personally don't know anyone who hated the trade, thank god. Unless you count Yellon.
Man, I thought you were kidding. You weren't.
I'm bored and feel like laughing at that fuckwit, so is there a link?
DPD.
Never mind, I found it and holy shit (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2014/7/4/5872043/cubs-trade-jeff-samardzija-jason-hammel-athletics) what an awesomely wrong hot taek.
Quote from: The Village IdiotAddison Russell is a fine prospect, for sure, but that's way too small of a payoff, in my view, for Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel, two major-league starting pitchers.
SQTPD
He's even wronger after having 24 hours to contemplate the trade (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2014/7/5/5872167/jeff-samardzija-jason-hammel-cubs-athletics-trade-analysis) weaving in one of his patented, condescending "history" lessons.
Quote from: Baloney BrainsThe Cubs have made a few minor trades with the A's over the last couple of years (you probably didn't much notice the Anthony Recker for Blake Lalli deal, did you?) but this is the first major deal between the teams since Jim Hendry acquired Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin for Eric Patterson, Sean Gallagher, Matt Murton and Josh Donaldson on July 8, 2008.
That deal, in fact, might be instructive to understanding this one. At the time -- almost exactly six years ago -- the Cubs were "going for it" and had they won the World Series with Harden, that deal might still be looked at as "worth it." What's worth keeping in mind is that the two keys to the deal as seen at the time were Patterson and Gallagher, who were both thought of as hot prospects. Murton had been a starting outfielder for the Cubs in 2007, much as Straily was in the A's rotation last year. Donaldson was just a year past being drafted and was hitting .217/.276/.349 at Peoria in the Low-A Midwest League at the time of the trade, seen as perhaps a failed catching prospect.
Now he's one of the top hitters in the American League.
...................
The issue as I see it now is this: This year's Cubs team has been playing quite well for the last month or so, in part because of good pitching from Samardzija and Hammel. Removing them from the rotation makes it markedly worse. It's not as if the Cubs were going to contend this year -- they weren't -- but perhaps they could improve enough to break through the 90-loss barrier, which could be psychologically important for young players like Castro and Anthony Rizzo. I'm sure they'd like to feel the team is going in the right direction at the big-league level, not just in the system, and yes, I believe that does matter. If the big-league Cubs go on a long losing streak again, heading toward 100 losses again, how do you build from there to a winner?
Or you could just read this excellent takedown of Al's take on the trade written by this fading star: http://www.desipio.com/?p=4918
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 04:31:57 PM
Or you could just read this excellent takedown of Al's take on the trade written by this fading star: http://www.desipio.com/?p=4918
Thank you. That was enjoyable.
Quote from: PANK! on September 04, 2015, 04:38:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 04, 2015, 04:31:57 PM
Or you could just read this excellent takedown of Al's take on the trade written by this fading star: http://www.desipio.com/?p=4918
Thank you. That was enjoyable.
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The next meaningful game the Cubs will play is in 2016.
Fading star.
Instead of revisiting the musings of that spunkflute, let's just bask in the awesomeness of Russell.
Quote from: PANK! on September 04, 2015, 04:05:20 PM
SQTPD
He's even wronger after having 24 hours to contemplate the trade (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2014/7/5/5872167/jeff-samardzija-jason-hammel-cubs-athletics-trade-analysis) weaving in one of his patented, condescending "history" lessons.
Quote from: Baloney BrainsThe Cubs have made a few minor trades with the A's over the last couple of years (you probably didn't much notice the Anthony Recker for Blake Lalli deal, did you?) but this is the first major deal between the teams since Jim Hendry acquired Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin for Eric Patterson, Sean Gallagher, Matt Murton and Josh Donaldson on July 8, 2008.
That deal, in fact, might be instructive to understanding this one. At the time -- almost exactly six years ago -- the Cubs were "going for it" and had they won the World Series with Harden, that deal might still be looked at as "worth it." What's worth keeping in mind is that the two keys to the deal as seen at the time were Patterson and Gallagher, who were both thought of as hot prospects. Murton had been a starting outfielder for the Cubs in 2007, much as Straily was in the A's rotation last year. Donaldson was just a year past being drafted and was hitting .217/.276/.349 at Peoria in the Low-A Midwest League at the time of the trade, seen as perhaps a failed catching prospect.
Now he's one of the top hitters in the American League.
...................
The issue as I see it now is this: This year's Cubs team has been playing quite well for the last month or so, in part because of good pitching from Samardzija and Hammel. Removing them from the rotation makes it markedly worse. It's not as if the Cubs were going to contend this year -- they weren't -- but perhaps they could improve enough to break through the 90-loss barrier, which could be psychologically important for young players like Castro and Anthony Rizzo. I'm sure they'd like to feel the team is going in the right direction at the big-league level, not just in the system, and yes, I believe that does matter. If the big-league Cubs go on a long losing streak again, heading toward 100 losses again, how do you build from there to a winner?
Despite the trade, the Cubs did break through the 90 loss barrier, and that has made all the difference.
Check and mate, Al Yellon.
I really would not have imagined he'd have 13 homers as a rookie, frankly, and the fact that he could very well end with 15+ is pretty fucking spectacular. He's so much fun to watch.
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 09:54:21 AM
I really would not have imagined he'd have 13 homers as a rookie, frankly, and the fact that he could very well end with 15+ is pretty fucking spectacular. He's so much fun to watch.
it's all a bonus given his stellar defense.
Every time he does something amazing I see a tweet saying HES ONLY 21. And it's true. He's got so much growing to do and he's already THIS.
Thank you Jeff Smaramarkmjjizsaa you fuckface idiot.
Quote from: Slaky on September 08, 2015, 10:08:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 09:54:21 AM
I really would not have imagined he'd have 13 homers as a rookie, frankly, and the fact that he could very well end with 15+ is pretty fucking spectacular. He's so much fun to watch.
it's all a bonus given his stellar defense.
Every time he does something amazing I see a tweet saying HES ONLY 21. And it's true. He's got so much growing to do and he's already THIS.
Thank you Jeff Smaramarkmjjizsaa you fuckface idiot.
As much as watching Rizzo, Bryant and Schwarber is a blast, there is something about Russell that is just a sit back, enjoy and see what he does next experience.
I don't know if that makes any sense but I really am digging this kid.
Quote from: flannj on September 08, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 08, 2015, 10:08:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 09:54:21 AM
I really would not have imagined he'd have 13 homers as a rookie, frankly, and the fact that he could very well end with 15+ is pretty fucking spectacular. He's so much fun to watch.
it's all a bonus given his stellar defense.
Every time he does something amazing I see a tweet saying HES ONLY 21. And it's true. He's got so much growing to do and he's already THIS.
Thank you Jeff Smaramarkmjjizsaa you fuckface idiot.
As much as watching Rizzo, Bryant and Schwarber is a blast, there is something about Russell that is just a sit back, enjoy and see what he does next experience.
I don't know if that makes any sense but I really am digging this kid.
On how many teams would Addison Russell be the 4th or 5th best story?
I also think that the rise of Carlos Correa has overshadowed him a little bit, which is fine. Correa is legit.
Quote from: flannj on September 08, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
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Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 09:54:21 AM
I really would not have imagined he'd have 13 homers as a rookie, frankly, and the fact that he could very well end with 15+ is pretty fucking spectacular. He's so much fun to watch.
it's all a bonus given his stellar defense.
Every time he does something amazing I see a tweet saying HES ONLY 21. And it's true. He's got so much growing to do and he's already THIS.
Thank you Jeff Smaramarkmjjizsaa you fuckface idiot.
As much as watching Rizzo, Bryant and Schwarber is a blast, there is something about Russell that is just a sit back, enjoy and see what he does next experience.
I don't know if that makes any sense but I really am digging this kid.
Rizzo is just a quiet professional type that (outside of a few of his impressive defensive plays this year) isn't all of that exciting because he just does his job so consistently and so well you come to expect it.
Bryant and Schwarber are exciting but less so than Addison because in some ways they're already finished products. Yeah, they've had slumps, and who knows where either will end up defensively in the long run, but their approach at the plate has been obviously good from day one and you just know that even if they struggle eventually they'll figure it out and be great.
Addison is such a wildcard (and this goes for Javy, too, if not more so for him given how impossibly high and improbable his ceiling is) because he's young and he's so raw. He's already almost completely overhauled his swing mid-season, and he's flashed gold glove caliber defense at two different positions. He just may end up being the most valuable of them all when he gets where he is going.
Quote from: flannj on September 08, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
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Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 09:54:21 AM
I really would not have imagined he'd have 13 homers as a rookie, frankly, and the fact that he could very well end with 15+ is pretty fucking spectacular. He's so much fun to watch.
it's all a bonus given his stellar defense.
Every time he does something amazing I see a tweet saying HES ONLY 21. And it's true. He's got so much growing to do and he's already THIS.
Thank you Jeff Smaramarkmjjizsaa you fuckface idiot.
As much as watching Rizzo, Bryant and Schwarber is a blast, there is something about Russell that is just a sit back, enjoy and see what he does next experience.
I don't know if that makes any sense but I really am digging this kid.
Just stop and look at what you did here. Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell are amazing players, fun to watch with seemingly no ceiling. Figure the potential of Baez and Soler that haven't quite been tapped, add the dominance of Jake Arrieta and Jon Lester, and don't even talk about Rondon or Montero or Fowler, and you have eight stars on this team. When have you had eight stars like the Cubs do right now?
2015: Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Arrieta, Lester, Baez, Soler
2008: Lee, Ramirez, Zambrano, Soto, Harden, Soriano, Lilly, Dempster?
2003: Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Sosa, Alou, Ramirez
2004: Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Maddux, Sosa, Alou, Ramirez, Garciaparra?
1998: Sosa, Wood, Beck, Grace, Rodriguez?
1989: Maddux, Dawson, Sandberg, Sutcliffe, Grace, Walton, Smith, Dunston (That's eight, minus Palmeiro traded in the previous offseason)
1984: Sandberg, Sutcliffe, Durham, Davis, Smith
1978: Buckner, Kingman, Reuschel, Sutter
1967-1972: Banks, Santo, Williams, Jenkins, Holtzman, Beckert, Kessinger, Hundley, Hickman (That's nine, and doesn't count some overhyped youth)
1929: Hartnett, Hornsby, Hack Wilson, Cuyler, Stephenson, Root, Malone, Grimm, Guy Bush (That's nine as well, but Hartnett missed a lot of time due to injury)
This is the time period we've been waiting for, gentlemen.
Quote from: Brownie on September 08, 2015, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 08, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
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Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 09:54:21 AM
I really would not have imagined he'd have 13 homers as a rookie, frankly, and the fact that he could very well end with 15+ is pretty fucking spectacular. He's so much fun to watch.
it's all a bonus given his stellar defense.
Every time he does something amazing I see a tweet saying HES ONLY 21. And it's true. He's got so much growing to do and he's already THIS.
Thank you Jeff Smaramarkmjjizsaa you fuckface idiot.
As much as watching Rizzo, Bryant and Schwarber is a blast, there is something about Russell that is just a sit back, enjoy and see what he does next experience.
I don't know if that makes any sense but I really am digging this kid.
Just stop and look at what you did here. Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell are amazing players, fun to watch with seemingly no ceiling. Figure the potential of Baez and Soler that haven't quite been tapped, add the dominance of Jake Arrieta and Jon Lester, and don't even talk about Rondon or Montero or Fowler, and you have eight stars on this team. When have you had eight stars like the Cubs do right now?
2015: Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Arrieta, Lester, Baez, Soler
2008: Lee, Ramirez, Zambrano, Soto, Harden, Soriano, Lilly, Dempster?
2003: Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Sosa, Alou, Ramirez
2004: Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Maddux, Sosa, Alou, Ramirez, Garciaparra?
1998: Sosa, Wood, Beck, Grace, Rodriguez?
1989: Maddux, Dawson, Sandberg, Sutcliffe, Grace, Walton, Smith, Dunston (That's eight, minus Palmeiro traded in the previous offseason)
1984: Sandberg, Sutcliffe, Durham, Davis, Smith
1978: Buckner, Kingman, Reuschel, Sutter
1967-1972: Banks, Santo, Williams, Jenkins, Holtzman, Beckert, Kessinger, Hundley, Hickman (That's nine, and doesn't count some overhyped youth)
1929: Hartnett, Hornsby, Hack Wilson, Cuyler, Stephenson, Root, Malone, Grimm, Guy Bush (That's nine as well, but Hartnett missed a lot of time due to injury)
This is the time period we've been waiting for, gentlemen.
And it should get even better...
2016: Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Arrieta, Lester, Baez, Soler, Free Agent Pitcher
Quote from: Tony on September 08, 2015, 11:26:34 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 08, 2015, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: flannj on September 08, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
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Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 09:54:21 AM
I really would not have imagined he'd have 13 homers as a rookie, frankly, and the fact that he could very well end with 15+ is pretty fucking spectacular. He's so much fun to watch.
it's all a bonus given his stellar defense.
Every time he does something amazing I see a tweet saying HES ONLY 21. And it's true. He's got so much growing to do and he's already THIS.
Thank you Jeff Smaramarkmjjizsaa you fuckface idiot.
As much as watching Rizzo, Bryant and Schwarber is a blast, there is something about Russell that is just a sit back, enjoy and see what he does next experience.
I don't know if that makes any sense but I really am digging this kid.
Just stop and look at what you did here. Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell are amazing players, fun to watch with seemingly no ceiling. Figure the potential of Baez and Soler that haven't quite been tapped, add the dominance of Jake Arrieta and Jon Lester, and don't even talk about Rondon or Montero or Fowler, and you have eight stars on this team. When have you had eight stars like the Cubs do right now?
2015: Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Arrieta, Lester, Baez, Soler
2008: Lee, Ramirez, Zambrano, Soto, Harden, Soriano, Lilly, Dempster?
2003: Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Sosa, Alou, Ramirez
2004: Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Maddux, Sosa, Alou, Ramirez, Garciaparra?
1998: Sosa, Wood, Beck, Grace, Rodriguez?
1989: Maddux, Dawson, Sandberg, Sutcliffe, Grace, Walton, Smith, Dunston (That's eight, minus Palmeiro traded in the previous offseason)
1984: Sandberg, Sutcliffe, Durham, Davis, Smith
1978: Buckner, Kingman, Reuschel, Sutter
1967-1972: Banks, Santo, Williams, Jenkins, Holtzman, Beckert, Kessinger, Hundley, Hickman (That's nine, and doesn't count some overhyped youth)
1929: Hartnett, Hornsby, Hack Wilson, Cuyler, Stephenson, Root, Malone, Grimm, Guy Bush (That's nine as well, but Hartnett missed a lot of time due to injury)
This is the time period we've been waiting for, gentlemen.
And it should get even better...
2016: Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Arrieta, Lester, Baez, Soler, Free Agent Pitcher
My new hope for the 2015/16 Free Agent Class: Sign David Price and Mike Leake.
Fuck Rich Harden.
That is all.
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck Rich Harden.
That is all.
I'm going to regret this, but what's the problem with Rich Harden?
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck Rich Harden.
That is all.
I'm going to regret this, but what's the problem with Rich Harden?
He cost Josh Donaldson.
Quote from: Slaky on September 08, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck Rich Harden.
That is all.
I'm going to regret this, but what's the problem with Rich Harden?
He cost Josh Donaldson.
With the way Hendry hemorrhaged prospects for shitty veterans, if Donaldson hadn't gone to Oakland for Harden he'd have been tossed for someone else. Or he'd have stayed at catcher and sucked because the A's are better at turning guys into good, patient hitters at the big league level than the Hendry Cubs were.
I'm mad Jimbo gave up Chris Archer for Garza because the Cubs were nowhere near being one pitcher away from contending in 2011 and Archer would have then been developed by Jepstink, but I really don't think you can blame him for throwing Donaldson (who wouldn't make a difference at the major league till 5 years after the trade anyway) onto a pile.
At some point Theo is going to trade Gleyber Torres or some shit for someone who will hopefully help the Cubs win a title and if said prospect ends up an MVP candidate seven years later I'm not going to be butthurt. Harden is hardly to blame for what happened to the 2008 Cubs in the playoffs, and it was a smart trade to get a dude who posted 1.77 ERA and a sub 1.00 WHIP in 12 starts as a Cub down the stretch (where the team went 9-3). It was a good win-now move.
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck Rich Harden.
That is all.
I'm going to regret this, but what's the problem with Rich Harden?
I don't even know, really. I just somehow associate him with the bitter failure that was the end of the 2008 season. While that eternally fuckfaced face-fucker Dempster set the wheel in motion and then that gutless fucking infield shit the tub behind Zambrano in the next game, there was something about Harden giving up 2 runs right off the bat in Game 3 when we were still clinging to the hope of an epic comeback--seeing as how that season's Cub's team was the winningest team of my lifetime we had yet to throw in the towel--that just disgusted me.
That and the fact he always seemed to be at 100 pitches in the 5th inning.
Mostly it's just RAGE by association though. I don't claim to have a good reason for not being enamored by Harden. That 2008 team broke me. Sorry if I've disappointed.
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2015, 01:38:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck Rich Harden.
That is all.
I'm going to regret this, but what's the problem with Rich Harden?
I don't even know, really. I just somehow associate him with the bitter failure that was the end of the 2008 season. While that eternally fuckfaced face-fucker Dempster set the wheel in motion and then that gutless fucking infield shit the tub behind Zambrano in the next game, there was something about Harden giving up 2 runs right off the bat in Game 3 when we were still clinging to the hope of an epic comeback--seeing as how that season's Cub's team was the winningest team of my lifetime we had yet to throw in the towel--that just disgusted me.
That and the fact he always seemed to be at 100 pitches in the 5th inning.
Mostly it's just RAGE by association though. I don't claim to have a good reason for not being enamored by Harden. That 2008 team broke me. Sorry if I've disappointed.
GODDAMMIT, PANK THIS....is actually acceptable. MOTION WITHDRAWN. I will admit even in 2009 I had trouble looking at guys like Ramirez and Lee without boiling over with anger, even as my brain tried to yell about 3 game sample sizes in the playoffs not outweighing years of quality play. There was much bitterness there. Amusingly enough I just flat out forgot Rich Harden for several years. He was a mercenary. It was the guys I cared about who disappointed me most.
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 01:36:40 PM
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Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck Rich Harden.
That is all.
I'm going to regret this, but what's the problem with Rich Harden?
He cost Josh Donaldson.
With the way Hendry hemorrhaged prospects for shitty veterans, if Donaldson hadn't gone to Oakland for Harden he'd have been tossed for someone else. Or he'd have stayed at catcher and sucked because the A's are better at turning guys into good, patient hitters at the big league level than the Hendry Cubs were.
I'm mad Jimbo gave up Chris Archer for Garza because the Cubs were nowhere near being one pitcher away from contending in 2011 and Archer would have then been developed by Jepstink, but I really don't think you can blame him for throwing Donaldson (who wouldn't make a difference at the major league till 5 years after the trade anyway) onto a pile.
At some point Theo is going to trade Gleyber Torres or some shit for someone who will hopefully help the Cubs win a title and if said prospect ends up an MVP candidate seven years later I'm not going to be butthurt. Harden is hardly to blame for what happened to the 2008 Cubs in the playoffs, and it was a smart trade to get a dude who posted 1.77 ERA and a sub 1.00 WHIP in 12 starts as a Cub down the stretch (where the team went 9-3). It was a good win-now move.
And just...stop. It's got NOTHING to do with Donaldson. That this guy's got 37 homeruns and the Cubs traded him 7 years ago is nothing short of a fluky development.
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 08, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 08, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 08, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck Rich Harden.
That is all.
I'm going to regret this, but what's the problem with Rich Harden?
He cost Josh Donaldson.
With the way Hendry hemorrhaged prospects for shitty veterans, if Donaldson hadn't gone to Oakland for Harden he'd have been tossed for someone else. Or he'd have stayed at catcher and sucked because the A's are better at turning guys into good, patient hitters at the big league level than the Hendry Cubs were.
I'm mad Jimbo gave up Chris Archer for Garza because the Cubs were nowhere near being one pitcher away from contending in 2011 and Archer would have then been developed by Jepstink, but I really don't think you can blame him for throwing Donaldson (who wouldn't make a difference at the major league till 5 years after the trade anyway) onto a pile.
At some point Theo is going to trade Gleyber Torres or some shit for someone who will hopefully help the Cubs win a title and if said prospect ends up an MVP candidate seven years later I'm not going to be butthurt. Harden is hardly to blame for what happened to the 2008 Cubs in the playoffs, and it was a smart trade to get a dude who posted 1.77 ERA and a sub 1.00 WHIP in 12 starts as a Cub down the stretch (where the team went 9-3). It was a good win-now move.
Harden had to be babied with his pitch counts and his pitch counts were always high because he walked and K'd people at high rates. The annoying feeling of seeing him exit after five innings like 40-year old Maddux wouldn't have bothered me had it all worked out in October. But in hindsight, I have negative feelings overall about the 2008 Cubs. The October nut punch was just too painful to overcome. So there are guys like Lee, Ramirez, Soriano and Zambrano who contributed to other teams and made me feel good about them in general. But I lump Harden in with Dempster, DeRosa, Edmonds and Hendry as guys who I used to feel good about and now look back upon with disdain. Whether that's deserved or not in every case, I don't care.
EDIT: PANK affirmed and validated.
Yeah we all basically just said the same thing. The 2008 Cubs were one hell of a nutpunch and left bad feelings for us all. Some of us focused more of those feelings on Rich Harden than others, I guess.
More importantly, Addison Russell is here to mend our stupid broken hearts.
Fuckin' A.
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
His arm isn't strong enough.
Quote from: InternetApex on September 21, 2015, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
His arm isn't strong enough.
Could've got more for Samardzija IMO
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 21, 2015, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on September 21, 2015, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
His arm isn't strong enough.
Could've got more for Samardzija IMO
Hey, look! Snork ONE-HIT the DETROIT TIGERS! Brock for Broglio redux!!!!!!!
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
His arm isn't strong enough.
Could've got more for Samardzija IMO
Hey, look! Snork ONE-HIT the DETROIT TIGERS! Brock for Broglio redux!!!!!!!
Damn, I wish the Sox would re-up him for 6 years.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 22, 2015, 11:48:03 AM
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
His arm isn't strong enough.
Could've got more for Samardzija IMO
Hey, look! Snork ONE-HIT the DETROIT TIGERS! Brock for Broglio redux!!!!!!!
Damn, I wish the Sox would re-up him for 6 years.
I suppose locking someone into a long term contract playing there is the closest legal approximation of locking someone in a burning barn.
ADDISON FUCKING RUSSELL, FEMALE DOGS
God damn
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
Castro has been replaced as Best Cubs SS since Banks.
He's going to be a MVP.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 11, 2016, 10:24:26 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
Castro has been replaced as Best Cubs SS since Banks.
Intrepid Readers: Don Kessinger and Shawon DunstonFY, Fork!
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 11, 2016, 10:24:26 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 21, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
I've never seen a Cubs shortstop do the things he can do. The next 20 years will be fung.
Castro has been replaced as Best Cubs SS since Banks.
What?
DPD: Speigel and Goff just played tHom's call of the Russell homer with "Sounds of Silence" piped in. Simon and Garfunkel got all the way to the song's title before that goof uttered a fucking word once the ball reached the bleachers. It sounded about as great as you'd imagine.
Quote from: InternetApex on April 12, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
DPD: Speigel and Goff just played tHom's call of the Russell homer with "Sounds of Silence" piped in. Simon and Garfunkel got all the way to the song's title before that goof uttered a fucking word once the ball reached the bleachers. It sounded about as great as you'd imagine.
I enjoy when the Cubs stick it to tHom maybe more than I do when they get the Cardinals booth in an uproar because they have pajama parties and enjoy watching their long majestic dongs. The Cardinals booth at least has the confirmation bias that the Cardinals have been the elite team in the NL for so long that OF COURSE they way they do things is the only right way harrumph harrumph. tHom's carrying the torch for a team that's been shittier than the Cubs for most of the last 25 years and he still likes to act indignant when the Cubs DARE to beat the vaunted Reds.
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2016, 11:11:41 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 12, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
DPD: Speigel and Goff just played tHom's call of the Russell homer with "Sounds of Silence" piped in. Simon and Garfunkel got all the way to the song's title before that goof uttered a fucking word once the ball reached the bleachers. It sounded about as great as you'd imagine.
I enjoy when the Cubs stick it to tHom maybe more than I do when they get the Cardinals booth in an uproar because they have pajama parties and enjoy watching their long majestic dongs. The Cardinals booth at least has the confirmation bias that the Cardinals have been the elite team in the NL for so long that OF COURSE they way they do things is the only right way harrumph harrumph. tHom's carrying the torch for a team that's been shittier than the Cubs for most of the last 25 years and he still likes to act indignant when the Cubs DARE to beat the vaunted Reds.
I feel like their anger about the Cubs has to do with the following the team has always had in spite of some rather lean years. They don't like that when the team is bad we still watch, listen, attend, care, when their fanbase stays far away. As broadcasters, they're envious. And when the Cubs do get good, as their vast resources allow them to do sometimes, we get really, really loud and excited in a way they only wish their base would. in addition, I feel as though they revel in the Cubs' failures out of schadenfreude because they know their team won't amount to shit. Might as well pile on the Cubs hatewagon. I don't really blame them for that as I usually do the same thing.
They hate the Cardinals over there too, probably for the same reason in addition to the fact that the Cards are always competitive. The Reds themselves are pretty much benign. Their fans are rather calm compared to the mouthbreathery in St. Louis. Their announcers are Hawk-level terrible. So fuck em.
Bumped for his 2 run triple last night, but more importantly the changes he's made this year. Only his shitty .260 BABIP is depressing his numbers (his BABIP last year was .324 and he BABIP anywhere from .306-.494 in the minors at every stop where he had more than 50 plate appearances, so positive regression should keep coming for him).
Otherwise:
BB%- 13.2 (8.0% last year)
K%- 17.1 (28.5% last year)
.342 OBP despite the crappy batted ball luck (.307 last year)
He's hitting more line drives than last year, and his hard contact % is up from last year as well.
He's basically improved in every single way you would want a kid to improve going from his rookie year to his second season. I can't wait for him to get some better luck on balls in play so the world has to take notice of how good this kid is.
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 09:20:40 AM
Bumped for his 2 run triple last night, but more importantly the changes he's made this year. Only his shitty .260 BABIP is depressing his numbers (his BABIP last year was .324 and he BABIP anywhere from .306-.494 in the minors at every stop where he had more than 50 plate appearances, so positive regression should keep coming for him).
Otherwise:
BB%- 13.2 (8.0% last year)
K%- 17.1 (28.5% last year)
.342 OBP despite the crappy batted ball luck (.307 last year)
He's hitting more line drives than last year, and his hard contact % is up from last year as well.
He's basically improved in every single way you would want a kid to improve going from his rookie year to his second season. I can't wait for him to get some better luck on balls in play so the world has to take notice of how good this kid is.
In his o-fer during Jake's no-hitter, he barreled the shit out of everything. Personally, I'd be fine with his hitting at NL replacement value this season because he's such a huge plus defensively.
He appears to have broken free of the BABIP monster for now and is up to .255/.374/.392/.766.
If he keeps up the walk rate and hits for more power as the weather warms up he might end up leading the team in WAR.
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
He appears to have broken free of the BABIP monster for now and is up to .255/.374/.392/.766.
If he keeps up the walk rate and hits for more power as the weather warms up he might end up leading the team in WAR.
Bryant's on pace for 9+ WAR this year (and not doing anything above his abilities), so I'd be awfully surprised.
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
He appears to have broken free of the BABIP monster for now and is up to .255/.374/.392/.766.
If he keeps up the walk rate and hits for more power as the weather warms up he might end up leading the team in WAR.
He's so fucking good. It's sick.
And that wasn't exactly his best-played game.
Quote from: Eli on May 11, 2016, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
He appears to have broken free of the BABIP monster for now and is up to .255/.374/.392/.766.
If he keeps up the walk rate and hits for more power as the weather warms up he might end up leading the team in WAR.
Bryant's on pace for 9+ WAR this year (and not doing anything above his abilities), so I'd be awfully surprised.
We don't have to choose one over the other. We can love them both equally.
Quote from: Oleg on May 11, 2016, 08:29:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 11, 2016, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
He appears to have broken free of the BABIP monster for now and is up to .255/.374/.392/.766.
If he keeps up the walk rate and hits for more power as the weather warms up he might end up leading the team in WAR.
Bryant's on pace for 9+ WAR this year (and not doing anything above his abilities), so I'd be awfully surprised.
We don't have to choose one over the other. We can love them both equally.
Oleg's a bigger man than either of you.
Quote from: Oleg on May 11, 2016, 08:29:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 11, 2016, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
He appears to have broken free of the BABIP monster for now and is up to .255/.374/.392/.766.
If he keeps up the walk rate and hits for more power as the weather warms up he might end up leading the team in WAR.
Bryant's on pace for 9+ WAR this year (and not doing anything above his abilities), so I'd be awfully surprised.
We don't have to choose one over the other. We can love them both equally.
No in this new world where we lack candidates for firebarning we must divide into factions and argue over which Cub is the best.
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 08:37:41 AM
Quote from: Oleg on May 11, 2016, 08:29:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 11, 2016, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
He appears to have broken free of the BABIP monster for now and is up to .255/.374/.392/.766.
If he keeps up the walk rate and hits for more power as the weather warms up he might end up leading the team in WAR.
Bryant's on pace for 9+ WAR this year (and not doing anything above his abilities), so I'd be awfully surprised.
We don't have to choose one over the other. We can love them both equally.
No in this new world where we lack candidates for firebarning we must divide into factions and argue over which Cub is the best.
That's fair. Those arguments are fun this year anyway.
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 08:37:41 AM
Quote from: Oleg on May 11, 2016, 08:29:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 11, 2016, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 11, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
He appears to have broken free of the BABIP monster for now and is up to .255/.374/.392/.766.
If he keeps up the walk rate and hits for more power as the weather warms up he might end up leading the team in WAR.
Bryant's on pace for 9+ WAR this year (and not doing anything above his abilities), so I'd be awfully surprised.
We don't have to choose one over the other. We can love them both equally.
No in this new world where we lack candidates for firebarning we must divide into factions and argue over which Cub is the best.
*nods*
Honestly I didn't realize Bryant was on pace for 9 WAR. I just assumed he was doing marginally better than last year and thinking ~6.7-7.5. That's awesome.
Take that, Eli.
'Sup.
So fucking good.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 13, 2016, 02:39:07 PM
So fucking good.
I forgot there was a Cubs game on. I'm sitting her working and fucking around talking about 2004 again.
Awful nice perfect game you got here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 13, 2016, 07:47:27 PM
Awful nice perfect game you got here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it.
That was one of the best at-bats we'll see all year.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 13, 2016, 07:47:27 PM
Awful nice perfect game you got here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it.
That was one of the best at-bats we'll see all year.
Really glad to see that from Addison. He needed that.
No splooge for his first grand slam? And I'm as much of a saberweenie as the next guy, but I'll be damned if Addison getting to 100 RBIs wouldn't make my dingle tingle.
Quote from: R-V on July 28, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
No splooge for his first grand slam? And I'm as much of a saberweenie as the next guy, but I'll be damned if Addison getting to 100 RBIs wouldn't make my dingle tingle.
K% down to 23.7% (28.5% last year), BB% up to 10.8% (8% last year), ISO up to .169 (.147 last year), average, OBP, SLG all up, and his wRC+ is now at 101. He's improved in basically every department while still running a BABIP that, while not bad at all (.303) is still lower than the .324 last year and where was at in the minors, so you could argue he's been somewhat unlucky. His line drive % is up, flyball % is down, infield flyball % is down, and his infield hit % is up so you'd assume that BABIP and his BA will keep rising.
He's just a damn good baseball player and he's still just scratching the surface.
Quote from: R-V on July 28, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
No splooge for his first grand slam? And I'm as much of a saberweenie as the next guy, but I'll be damned if Addison getting to 100 RBIs wouldn't make my dingle tingle.
We slack-discussed something similar. It's perfectly fine to enjoy the aesthetics of an RBI total as long as that's not dictating the decision of the quality of a player
Quote from: Yeti on July 28, 2016, 11:21:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 28, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
No splooge for his first grand slam? And I'm as much of a saberweenie as the next guy, but I'll be damned if Addison getting to 100 RBIs wouldn't make my dingle tingle.
We slack-discussed something similar. It's perfectly fine to enjoy the aesthetics of an RBI total as long as that's not dictating the decision of the quality of a player
I was legitimately bummed when Bryant got stuck at 99 at the end of last season because those landmarks are still nice, plus whenever I argue with a moron I like to be able to have the old school stats on my side too so they can't just get all angry and dismissive of WAR and crap.
Quote from: Yeti on July 28, 2016, 11:21:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 28, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
No splooge for his first grand slam? And I'm as much of a saberweenie as the next guy, but I'll be damned if Addison getting to 100 RBIs wouldn't make my dingle tingle.
We slack-discussed something similar. It's perfectly fine to enjoy the aesthetics of an RBI total as long as that's not dictating the decision of the quality of a player
He's actually the team leader in RBI at Wrigley, and it's not by a small margin.
Whatever happened to that guy who was playing shortstop at the start of last season.... ?
Quote from: SKO on July 28, 2016, 11:23:52 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 28, 2016, 11:21:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 28, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
No splooge for his first grand slam? And I'm as much of a saberweenie as the next guy, but I'll be damned if Addison getting to 100 RBIs wouldn't make my dingle tingle.
We slack-discussed something similar. It's perfectly fine to enjoy the aesthetics of an RBI total as long as that's not dictating the decision of the quality of a player
I was legitimately bummed when Bryant got stuck at 99 at the end of last season because those landmarks are still nice, plus whenever I argue with a moron I like to be able to have the old school stats on my side too so they can't just get all angry and dismissive of WAR and crap.
The fact that that he was sitting at 99 RBI and twice walked while a teammate was tantalizingly stationed at second base in a completely meaningless 162nd game simply makes me tingly in my man parts.
Sweet Jesus. That was pretty.
Quote from: ChuckD on July 31, 2016, 11:16:33 PM
Sweet Jesus. That was pretty.
Yeah that's a yell at your screen kind of play. Though I yelled at the screen pretty much 100 times last night.
http://m.mlb.com/video/v995566983/seachc-russell-makes-a-great-stop-throws-for-out/?game_pk=448435
Tell me who's somethin.
Bump.
Asleep at the wheel, Desipio? Two dingers and no love for the kid?
Russell is batting .280/.356/.500 with 6 HR and 27 RBI since the All-Star break, by the way. Is that good? That seems good.
Quote from: Tonker on August 22, 2016, 01:35:09 AM
Asleep at the wheel, Desipio? Two dingers and no love for the kid?
Russell is batting .280/.356/.500 with 6 HR and 27 RBI since the All-Star break, by the way. Is that good? That seems good.
Yeah, two
solo homers. Selfish.
Yeah, but one was into the fucking garbage can. Should make that part of the HR Derby, 4 HR's for landing it in there, lol.
He's going to have 20 homers by Labor Day before this week is out, isn't he?
Modified projection'd.
This fucking kid...
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on August 22, 2016, 09:35:17 PM
He's going to have 20 homers by Labor Day, isn't he?
Here's hoping he gets them at Dodger Stadium this weekend.
I'll 2nd that, and boy has he not only been hot since the All-Star break, but he seems to have taken to the 5th spot in the order.
Flagged down a screamer that came off the bat at 110 mph for an easy out, thus slapping some lipstick on the Travis Wood Pig of an inning and sparing the team any late-game stress. This fucking kid...
Ho lee shit
Best Cubs SS since Banks.
Geez Louise.
Wow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 22, 2016, 10:14:12 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on August 22, 2016, 09:35:17 PM
He's going to have 20 homers by Labor Day, isn't he?
Here's hoping he gets them at Dodger Stadium this weekend.
20 might've been too conservative.
Shit, 5 games on the road trip, 5 bombs, so tomorrow he gets 20 right?
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.
He's also currently 7th among major league shortstops with a 3.4 WAR, in his first full big-league season. That seems pretty good.
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.
He's also currently 7th among major league shortstops with a 3.4 WAR, in his first full big-league season. That seems pretty good.
He is lucky that he only has to compete directly with Seager for awards at his position, because it's some real shit luck that he is one of the ten best young shortstop prospects of the last 10-15 years and the 5 or so that might be better than him just happen to be the exact same age he is
Seager has apparently been slightly better defensively as far as fangraphs is concerned but based on their reputation (people questioned whether Seager would even stick at short, long term while Russell has never had that issue) I'd give Addison a real good shot at a gold glove. In the AL I don't think anyone questions that Lindor's going to get that.
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.
He's also currently 7th among major league shortstops with a 3.4 WAR, in his first full big-league season. That seems pretty good.
He is lucky that he only has to compete directly with Seager for awards at his position, because it's some real shit luck that he is one of the ten best young shortstop prospects of the last 10-15 years and the 5 or so that might be better than him just happen to be the exact same age he is
Seager has apparently been slightly better defensively as far as fangraphs is concerned but based on their reputation (people questioned whether Seager would even stick at short, long term while Russell has never had that issue) I'd give Addison a real good shot at a gold glove. In the AL I don't think anyone questions that Lindor's going to get that.
Russell will get more World Series rings than Seager. I'm sure he'll be cool with that.
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.
He's also currently 7th among major league shortstops with a 3.4 WAR, in his first full big-league season. That seems pretty good.
He is lucky that he only has to compete directly with Seager for awards at his position, because it's some real shit luck that he is one of the ten best young shortstop prospects of the last 10-15 years and the 5 or so that might be better than him just happen to be the exact same age he is
Seager has apparently been slightly better defensively as far as fangraphs is concerned but based on their reputation (people questioned whether Seager would even stick at short, long term while Russell has never had that issue) I'd give Addison a real good shot at a gold glove. In the AL I don't think anyone questions that Lindor's going to get that.
Russell will get more World Series rings than Seager. I'm sure he'll be cool with that.
I don't understand what any of this has to do with RV eating dick, something I think we'd all support.
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.
He's also currently 7th among major league shortstops with a 3.4 WAR, in his first full big-league season. That seems pretty good.
He is lucky that he only has to compete directly with Seager for awards at his position, because it's some real shit luck that he is one of the ten best young shortstop prospects of the last 10-15 years and the 5 or so that might be better than him just happen to be the exact same age he is
Seager has apparently been slightly better defensively as far as fangraphs is concerned but based on their reputation (people questioned whether Seager would even stick at short, long term while Russell has never had that issue) I'd give Addison a real good shot at a gold glove. In the AL I don't think anyone questions that Lindor's going to get that.
Russell will get more World Series rings than Seager. I'm sure he'll be cool with that.
I don't understand what any of this has to do with RV eating dick, something I think we'd all support.
Dead Men Don't Eat Dicks.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on August 24, 2016, 02:38:47 PM
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.
He's also currently 7th among major league shortstops with a 3.4 WAR, in his first full big-league season. That seems pretty good.
He is lucky that he only has to compete directly with Seager for awards at his position, because it's some real shit luck that he is one of the ten best young shortstop prospects of the last 10-15 years and the 5 or so that might be better than him just happen to be the exact same age he is
Seager has apparently been slightly better defensively as far as fangraphs is concerned but based on their reputation (people questioned whether Seager would even stick at short, long term while Russell has never had that issue) I'd give Addison a real good shot at a gold glove. In the AL I don't think anyone questions that Lindor's going to get that.
Russell will get more World Series rings than Seager. I'm sure he'll be cool with that.
I don't understand what any of this has to do with RV eating dick, something I think we'd all support.
Dead Men Don't Eat Dicks.
It's spotted. Doesn't that count for anything?
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on August 24, 2016, 02:38:47 PM
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.
Delete your account.
Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.
While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.
Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.
He's also currently 7th among major league shortstops with a 3.4 WAR, in his first full big-league season. That seems pretty good.
He is lucky that he only has to compete directly with Seager for awards at his position, because it's some real shit luck that he is one of the ten best young shortstop prospects of the last 10-15 years and the 5 or so that might be better than him just happen to be the exact same age he is
Seager has apparently been slightly better defensively as far as fangraphs is concerned but based on their reputation (people questioned whether Seager would even stick at short, long term while Russell has never had that issue) I'd give Addison a real good shot at a gold glove. In the AL I don't think anyone questions that Lindor's going to get that.
Russell will get more World Series rings than Seager. I'm sure he'll be cool with that.
I don't understand what any of this has to do with RV eating dick, something I think we'd all support.
Dead Men Don't Eat Dicks.
It's spotted. Doesn't that count for anything?
The takeaway here is that PenFoe is a necrophiliac.
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.
I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.
Statcast had his route efficiency at 98.5%. He basically knew where the ball was going to land as soon as it left the bat, and he went straight there.
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.
I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.
Well, I'd agree with them. Ozzie
does catch that ball. But Ozzie doesn't slug .426 or reach 30+ career home runs as a 22 year old.
Because Ozzie never did either of those things period
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.
I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.
If Addison has reached the point already where "Oh yeah? Well Ozzie was better!" is their argument we've already won the fight
Quote from: SKO on September 01, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.
I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.
If Addison has reached the point already where "Oh yeah? Well Ozzie was better!" is their argument we've already won the fight
What is it about methheads and the need to lionize marginal slapdick hitters named Ozzie who have good gloves?
Quote from: Bort on September 01, 2016, 08:09:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 01, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.
I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.
If Addison has reached the point already where "Oh yeah? Well Ozzie was better!" is their argument we've already won the fight
What is it about methheads and the need to lionize marginal slapdick hitters named Ozzie who have good gloves?
To be fair Ozzie Smith was worth 67 fWAR in his career. He managed a 6.7 fWAR campaign in 1989 despite a 102 wRC+ because he was insanely good defensively. If Addison is worth 67 wins in his career I'll take it. My point was if Cardinals fans are already resorting to "well he's not
as good defensively as the guy widely acknowledged as the greatest defender in MLB history" then they don't realize how good they're saying Addison actually is.
Meanwhile Ozzie Guillen was a replacement level shitbag.
Quote from: SKO on September 01, 2016, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 01, 2016, 08:09:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 01, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.
I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.
If Addison has reached the point already where "Oh yeah? Well Ozzie was better!" is their argument we've already won the fight
What is it about methheads and the need to lionize marginal slapdick hitters named Ozzie who have good gloves?
To be fair Ozzie Smith was worth 67 fWAR in his career. He managed a 6.7 fWAR campaign in 1989 despite a 102 wRC+ because he was insanely good defensively. If Addison is worth 67 wins in his career I'll take it. My point was if Cardinals fans are already resorting to "well he's not as good defensively as the guy widely acknowledged as the greatest defender in MLB history" then they don't realize how good they're saying Addison actually is.
Meanwhile Ozzie Guillen was a replacement level shitbag.
Quiet you, let me have my analogy.
Anybody still pushing back on "Best Cubs shortstop since Banks"?
ADDISON MUSCLE, FEMALE DOGS
12 more years on the Cubs and he might become my all-time favorite.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 01, 2016, 01:24:50 PM
Anybody still pushing back on "Best Cubs shortstop since Banks"?
Banks was still a Monarch at Addison's age.
Quote from: PenFoe on September 01, 2016, 10:34:26 PM
12 more years on the Cubs and he might become my all-time favorite.
Meh. He'll never be The Mick.
Quote from: Brownie on September 01, 2016, 10:48:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 01, 2016, 01:24:50 PM
Anybody still pushing back on "Best Cubs shortstop since Banks"?
Banks was still a Monarch at Addison's age.
Russell has better knees.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on August 22, 2016, 09:35:17 PM
He's going to have 20 homers by Labor Day before this week is out, within a week after Labor Day isn't he?
Modified projection'd.
This fucking kid...
Better late than never'd.
Holy shit this kid...
.247/.330/.433, 20 dongers, 91 RBI, 4.2 fWAR, good for 11th in the NL.
At 22 goddamn years old.
A fine prospect, to be sure.
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2016, 09:03:41 AM
.247/.330/.433, 20 dongers, 91 RBI, 4.2 fWAR, good for 11th in the NL.
At 22 goddamn years old.
A fine prospect, to be sure.
He's lowered his K rate from 28.5% last year to 23.1% this year.
We should really send Billy Beane a nice gift from Edible Arrangements or something.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 12, 2016, 09:10:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2016, 09:03:41 AM
.247/.330/.433, 20 dongers, 91 RBI, 4.2 fWAR, good for 11th in the NL.
At 22 goddamn years old.
A fine prospect, to be sure.
He's lowered his K rate from 28.5% last year to 23.1% this year.
We should really send Billy Beane a nice gift from Edible Arrangements or something.
If it weren't for their shit-for-brains WC game starter, that trade could have turned out a bit better for the A's.
Quote from: Oleg on September 12, 2016, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 12, 2016, 09:10:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2016, 09:03:41 AM
.247/.330/.433, 20 dongers, 91 RBI, 4.2 fWAR, good for 11th in the NL.
At 22 goddamn years old.
A fine prospect, to be sure.
He's lowered his K rate from 28.5% last year to 23.1% this year.
We should really send Billy Beane a nice gift from Edible Arrangements or something.
If it weren't for their shit-for-brains WC game starter, that trade could have turned out a bit better for the A's.
You talking about Lester?
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 12, 2016, 09:55:58 AM
Quote from: Oleg on September 12, 2016, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 12, 2016, 09:10:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2016, 09:03:41 AM
.247/.330/.433, 20 dongers, 91 RBI, 4.2 fWAR, good for 11th in the NL.
At 22 goddamn years old.
A fine prospect, to be sure.
He's lowered his K rate from 28.5% last year to 23.1% this year.
We should really send Billy Beane a nice gift from Edible Arrangements or something.
If it weren't for their shit-for-brains WC game starter, that trade could have turned out a bit better for the A's.
You talking about Lester?
(http://i.imgur.com/B9R8fL0.gif)
Barry Larkin only hit more than 20 homers once, so I think we're selling Russell short here.
Quote from: Eli on September 12, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
Barry Larkin only hit more than 20 homers once, so I think we're selling Russell short here.
Career high of 33 in 1996 despite averaging 15 a year. I think that was also the year everyone thought the ball was juiced because Brady Anderson hit 50, wasn't it?
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 12, 2016, 09:10:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2016, 09:03:41 AM
.247/.330/.433, 20 dongers, 91 RBI, 4.2 fWAR, good for 11th in the NL.
At 22 goddamn years old.
A fine prospect, to be sure.
He's lowered his K rate from 28.5% last year to 23.1% this year.
We should really send Billy Beane a nice gift from Edible Arrangements or something.
I could pitch in $10.
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2016, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 12, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
Barry Larkin only hit more than 20 homers once, so I think we're selling Russell short here.
Career high of 33 in 1996 despite averaging 15 a year. I think that was also the year everyone thought the ball was juiced because Brady Anderson hit 50, wasn't it?
Intrepid Reader: Brady AndersonUh...yeah...it was
the ball that was juiced.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 12, 2016, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2016, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on September 12, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
Barry Larkin only hit more than 20 homers once, so I think we're selling Russell short here.
Career high of 33 in 1996 despite averaging 15 a year. I think that was also the year everyone thought the ball was juiced because Brady Anderson hit 50, wasn't it?
Intrepid Reader: Brady Anderson
Uh...yeah...it was the ball that was juiced.
There were some weird outliers, both Anderson and Larkin went back to their regular totals after that year, so understandable why some thought the ball was juiced that year. 1996 featured almost 900 (4962 vs 4081) more homers than the year before, then it dipped back down by about 300 dingers the next year, before the steroid era exploded in earnest with McGwire-Sosa and 9 straight seasons of 5000+ dingers starting in 1998. The ball may have been juiced before they realized juiced players mitigated the need for a juiced ball.
Wasn't the ball also juiced in '87, when Andre Dawson forever captured our hearts?
Quote from: Canadouche on September 12, 2016, 06:42:29 PM
Wasn't the ball also juiced in '87, when Andre Dawson forever captured our hearts?
I always considered this (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/boggswa01.shtml) to be the prosecution's key piece of evidence in that case.
BUMP
Nice bounce-back, kid.
Turning around that slump in a HUGE way.
I was going to say something shitty about how wrong Vlahos was, but I sincerely hope he's enjoying this instead of just wanting to be right.
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 21, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 10:21:50 AM
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Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
Clearly he was referring to his mental makeup, dingus.
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 10:21:50 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 21, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
I don't care either way. I'm just overjoyed to see the young Cubs getting big hits. Addison had said previously that he'd had trouble controlling his adrenaline in big situations, but he seems to be getting better at it. I'm giddy to see what he and Javy do next, and to watch them be the double play duo for the next decade.
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2016, 08:28:11 AM
I was going to say something shitty about how wrong Vlahos was, but I sincerely hope he's enjoying this instead of just wanting to be right.
He's definitely enjoying it.
Quote from: VlahosIndeed, we all want the same thing, however it's achieved. I'm glad the Cubs appear to be close to achieving it. The next few weeks should be agonizing, but fun. I hope you enjoy it.
Quote from: Yeti on October 21, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2016, 08:28:11 AM
I was going to say something shitty about how wrong Vlahos was, but I sincerely hope he's enjoying this instead of just wanting to be right.
He's definitely enjoying it.
Quote from: VlahosIndeed, we all want the same thing, however it's achieved. I'm glad the Cubs appear to be close to achieving it. The next few weeks should be agonizing, but fun. I hope you enjoy it.
He can eat shit.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 21, 2016, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 21, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2016, 08:28:11 AM
I was going to say something shitty about how wrong Vlahos was, but I sincerely hope he's enjoying this instead of just wanting to be right.
He's definitely enjoying it.
Quote from: VlahosIndeed, we all want the same thing, however it's achieved. I'm glad the Cubs appear to be close to achieving it. The next few weeks should be agonizing, but fun. I hope you enjoy it.
He can eat shit.
With Al, at a table for two.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 21, 2016, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 21, 2016, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 21, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2016, 08:28:11 AM
I was going to say something shitty about how wrong Vlahos was, but I sincerely hope he's enjoying this instead of just wanting to be right.
He's definitely enjoying it.
Quote from: VlahosIndeed, we all want the same thing, however it's achieved. I'm glad the Cubs appear to be close to achieving it. The next few weeks should be agonizing, but fun. I hope you enjoy it.
He can eat shit.
With Al, at a table for two.
And a high chair for Gordo.
Bump.
- First SS to hit a World Series grand slam.
- Holds the record for most RBI in a game where his team faces elimination.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 01, 2016, 08:31:05 PM
Bump.
- First SS to hit a World Series grand slam.
- Holds the record for most RBI in a game where his team faces elimination.
He's tied for the record for most RBI in a WS game, period
Quote from: SKO on November 01, 2016, 08:48:11 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 01, 2016, 08:31:05 PM
Bump.
- First SS to hit a World Series grand slam.
- Holds the record for most RBI in a game where his team faces elimination.
He's tied for the record for most RBI in a WS game, period
Also first grand slam ever in the month of November.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 01, 2016, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 01, 2016, 08:48:11 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 01, 2016, 08:31:05 PM
Bump.
- First SS to hit a World Series grand slam.
- Holds the record for most RBI in a game where his team faces elimination.
He's tied for the record for most RBI in a WS game, period
Also first grand slam ever in the month of November.
Derek Jeter sucks. All hail the real Mr. November.
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 10:21:50 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 21, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
No, I think discipline speaks to character. Rizzo seems like a good guy, and I'm sure he's done bad things. Chapman on the other hand, I'm sure he's done a good deed or two somewhere. I would hope that Chapman who has lived a very volatile 28 years -- and was a tool of a totalitarian state for his first 21 years before winding up as a MILLIONAIRE BASEBALL STAR with everything handed to him -- will work on his character before he hurts more people or himself.
As for Russell, by all accounts he's a good guy at 22 whopping years old. Of course, he's had a lot of stability in his life, but displaying that kind of discipline as a 22-year-old who has overmatched his peers his whole life until the past 3 or 4 years speaks something to his character.
Quote from: Brownie on November 02, 2016, 10:16:06 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 10:21:50 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 21, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 21, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 21, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
No, I think discipline speaks to character. Rizzo seems like a good guy, and I'm sure he's done bad things. Chapman on the other hand, I'm sure he's done a good deed or two somewhere. I would hope that Chapman who has lived a very volatile 28 years -- and was a tool of a totalitarian state for his first 21 years before winding up as a MILLIONAIRE BASEBALL STAR with everything handed to him -- will work on his character before he hurts more people or himself.
As for Russell, by all accounts he's a good guy at 22 whopping years old. Of course, he's had a lot of stability in his life, but displaying that kind of discipline as a 22-year-old who has overmatched his peers his whole life until the past 3 or 4 years speaks something to his character.
Aside from the 2 babies inside of 9 months of each other from 2 different women, yea
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It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
No, I think discipline speaks to character. Rizzo seems like a good guy, and I'm sure he's done bad things. Chapman on the other hand, I'm sure he's done a good deed or two somewhere. I would hope that Chapman who has lived a very volatile 28 years -- and was a tool of a totalitarian state for his first 21 years before winding up as a MILLIONAIRE BASEBALL STAR with everything handed to him -- will work on his character before he hurts more people or himself.
As for Russell, by all accounts he's a good guy at 22 whopping years old. Of course, he's had a lot of stability in his life, but displaying that kind of discipline as a 22-year-old who has overmatched his peers his whole life until the past 3 or 4 years speaks something to his character.
Aside from the 2 babies inside of 9 months of each other from 2 different women, yea
I don't know that a 20 year old athlete having sex with two different women in a relatively short timespan is "instability" or anything to judge him for at all. He seems to have a happy marriage to one of them now and he's actively involved in the life of the other kid.
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It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
No, I think discipline speaks to character. Rizzo seems like a good guy, and I'm sure he's done bad things. Chapman on the other hand, I'm sure he's done a good deed or two somewhere. I would hope that Chapman who has lived a very volatile 28 years -- and was a tool of a totalitarian state for his first 21 years before winding up as a MILLIONAIRE BASEBALL STAR with everything handed to him -- will work on his character before he hurts more people or himself.
As for Russell, by all accounts he's a good guy at 22 whopping years old. Of course, he's had a lot of stability in his life, but displaying that kind of discipline as a 22-year-old who has overmatched his peers his whole life until the past 3 or 4 years speaks something to his character.
Aside from the 2 babies inside of 9 months of each other from 2 different women, yea
I don't know that a 20 year old athlete having sex with two different women in a relatively short timespan is "instability" or anything to judge him for at all. He seems to have a happy marriage to one of them now and he's actively involved in the life of the other kid.
No, having sex as a 20 year old is not a mark of instability, but shooting 2 silver bullets each time and creating unexpected pregnancies certainly probably created at least a little bit of upheaval in Addy's life.
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It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
No, I think discipline speaks to character. Rizzo seems like a good guy, and I'm sure he's done bad things. Chapman on the other hand, I'm sure he's done a good deed or two somewhere. I would hope that Chapman who has lived a very volatile 28 years -- and was a tool of a totalitarian state for his first 21 years before winding up as a MILLIONAIRE BASEBALL STAR with everything handed to him -- will work on his character before he hurts more people or himself.
As for Russell, by all accounts he's a good guy at 22 whopping years old. Of course, he's had a lot of stability in his life, but displaying that kind of discipline as a 22-year-old who has overmatched his peers his whole life until the past 3 or 4 years speaks something to his character.
Aside from the 2 babies inside of 9 months of each other from 2 different women, yea
I don't know that a 20 year old athlete having sex with two different women in a relatively short timespan is "instability" or anything to judge him for at all. He seems to have a happy marriage to one of them now and he's actively involved in the life of the other kid.
No, having sex as a 20 year old is not a mark of instability, but shooting 2 silver bullets each time and creating unexpected pregnancies certainly probably created at least a little bit of upheaval in Addy's life.
DAT
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It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
No, I think discipline speaks to character. Rizzo seems like a good guy, and I'm sure he's done bad things. Chapman on the other hand, I'm sure he's done a good deed or two somewhere. I would hope that Chapman who has lived a very volatile 28 years -- and was a tool of a totalitarian state for his first 21 years before winding up as a MILLIONAIRE BASEBALL STAR with everything handed to him -- will work on his character before he hurts more people or himself.
As for Russell, by all accounts he's a good guy at 22 whopping years old. Of course, he's had a lot of stability in his life, but displaying that kind of discipline as a 22-year-old who has overmatched his peers his whole life until the past 3 or 4 years speaks something to his character.
Aside from the 2 babies inside of 9 months of each other from 2 different women, yea
I don't know that a 20 year old athlete having sex with two different women in a relatively short timespan is "instability" or anything to judge him for at all. He seems to have a happy marriage to one of them now and he's actively involved in the life of the other kid.
No, having sex as a 20 year old is not a mark of instability, but shooting 2 silver bullets each time and creating unexpected pregnancies certainly probably created at least a little bit of upheaval in Addy's life.
Yeah, that's fair. I probably read more stank into Yeti's response than he intended. I just didn't think it was fair to imply a guy may not be mature or stable if he happened to have two kids with two different women in a relatively short time span. Shit happens. He seems to be doing right by both kids so that's all that counts as far as I am concerned. But re-reading it I don't think that's what Yeti was doing. my bad.
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It's very interesting to me how successful at bats develop. Before he hit his homerun, Russell looked bad on a swing, and he looked pretty frustrated in the process. It speaks to his character baseball ability and solid mental approach that he didn't change his approach after a bad swing.
I'm probably being a semantic dick but it ain't got nothing to do with his character.
I'll concede your point. I just feel that not succumbing to the pressure/adrenaline, and maintaining your approach (i.e., playing with poise), is an example of your character.
Oh Kurt, don't you know that you're not allowed to bring about "character" around these parts?
The only thing that matters is statz, bro.
This isn't a computers versus grit argument, dingus. Obviously there is a HUGE mental aspect to the game - as evidenced by how much focus this regime puts on mental makeup. But when I think of "character" I think of how a guy treats his family and friends and acts as a citizen in general (e.g. Rizzo good, Chapman bad). Which is different than his mental makeup as an athlete. I'm probably splitting hairs here.
No, I think discipline speaks to character. Rizzo seems like a good guy, and I'm sure he's done bad things. Chapman on the other hand, I'm sure he's done a good deed or two somewhere. I would hope that Chapman who has lived a very volatile 28 years -- and was a tool of a totalitarian state for his first 21 years before winding up as a MILLIONAIRE BASEBALL STAR with everything handed to him -- will work on his character before he hurts more people or himself.
As for Russell, by all accounts he's a good guy at 22 whopping years old. Of course, he's had a lot of stability in his life, but displaying that kind of discipline as a 22-year-old who has overmatched his peers his whole life until the past 3 or 4 years speaks something to his character.
Aside from the 2 babies inside of 9 months of each other from 2 different women, yea
I don't know that a 20 year old athlete having sex with two different women in a relatively short timespan is "instability" or anything to judge him for at all. He seems to have a happy marriage to one of them now and he's actively involved in the life of the other kid.
No, having sex as a 20 year old is not a mark of instability, but shooting 2 silver bullets each time and creating unexpected pregnancies certainly probably created at least a little bit of upheaval in Addy's life.
Yeah, that's fair. I probably read more stank into Yeti's response than he intended. I just didn't think it was fair to imply a guy may not be mature or stable if he happened to have two kids with two different women in a relatively short time span. Shit happens. He seems to be doing right by both kids so that's all that counts as far as I am concerned. But re-reading it I don't think that's what Yeti was doing. my bad.
Yea, I'm not judging. (I'd probably be dead if I had all the privilege and money) I just chuckled at Addy's life stability when he had something happen that was kind of a dramatic moment
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Bump.
- First SS to hit a World Series grand slam.
- Holds the record for most RBI in a game where his team faces elimination.
He's tied for the record for most RBI in a WS game, period
Also first grand slam ever in the month of November.
It is also the first World Series grand slam to be hit by a Cub shortstop while I was in the next room checking my email.
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Bump.
- First SS to hit a World Series grand slam.
- Holds the record for most RBI in a game where his team faces elimination.
He's tied for the record for most RBI in a WS game, period
Also first grand slam ever in the month of November.
It is also the first World Series grand slam to be hit by a Cub shortstop while I was in the next room checking my email.
Now we know where you'll be, and what you'll be doing, for the duration of Cub at bats in game seven.
Quote"When I gave birth, I was kind of out of it with the drugs,'' Milany Russell told USA Today. "So when I came out of it, there was already the name on the birth certificate: 'Geoffreye O'Neal Addison Robert Watts Jr III.'"
Apparently, the name stuck. At age 13, Russell's mother gave him a one-time option to change his name when he was adopted by Wayne, his stepfather and the man he considers his father, USA Today reported. He chose Addison Wayne Russell.
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Quote"When I gave birth, I was kind of out of it with the drugs,'' Milany Russell told USA Today. "So when I came out of it, there was already the name on the birth certificate: 'Geoffreye O'Neal Addison Robert Watts Jr III.'"
Apparently, the name stuck. At age 13, Russell's mother gave him a one-time option to change his name when he was adopted by Wayne, his stepfather and the man he considers his father, USA Today reported. He chose Addison Wayne Russell.
King Geoffreye Geoffer Russell
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 10, 2017, 11:56:29 PM
Quote"When I gave birth, I was kind of out of it with the drugs,'' Milany Russell told USA Today. "So when I came out of it, there was already the name on the birth certificate: 'Geoffreye O'Neal Addison Robert Watts Jr III.'"
Apparently, the name stuck. At age 13, Russell's mother gave him a one-time option to change his name when he was adopted by Wayne, his stepfather and the man he considers his father, USA Today reported. He chose Addison Wayne Russell.
Geoffreye? GEOFFREYE?
*HEAD ASPLODE*
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Quote"When I gave birth, I was kind of out of it with the drugs,'' Milany Russell told USA Today. "So when I came out of it, there was already the name on the birth certificate: 'Geoffreye O'Neal Addison Robert Watts Jr III.'"
Apparently, the name stuck. At age 13, Russell's mother gave him a one-time option to change his name when he was adopted by Wayne, his stepfather and the man he considers his father, USA Today reported. He chose Addison Wayne Russell.
Geoffreye? GEOFFREYE?
*HEAD ASPLODE*
That article does a super job of pretending both those 1-year old kids are from his wife.
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Quote"When I gave birth, I was kind of out of it with the drugs,'' Milany Russell told USA Today. "So when I came out of it, there was already the name on the birth certificate: 'Geoffreye O'Neal Addison Robert Watts Jr III.'"
Apparently, the name stuck. At age 13, Russell's mother gave him a one-time option to change his name when he was adopted by Wayne, his stepfather and the man he considers his father, USA Today reported. He chose Addison Wayne Russell.
Geoffreye? GEOFFREYE?
*HEAD ASPLODE*
That article does a super job of pretending both those 1-year old kids are from his wife.
Why do you hate Addison Russell so much, maaan? Too old and established?
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Quote"When I gave birth, I was kind of out of it with the drugs,'' Milany Russell told USA Today. "So when I came out of it, there was already the name on the birth certificate: 'Geoffreye O'Neal Addison Robert Watts Jr III.'"
Apparently, the name stuck. At age 13, Russell's mother gave him a one-time option to change his name when he was adopted by Wayne, his stepfather and the man he considers his father, USA Today reported. He chose Addison Wayne Russell.
Geoffreye? GEOFFREYE?
*HEAD ASPLODE*
That article does a super job of pretending both those 1-year old kids are from his wife.
Why do you hate Addison Russell so much, maaan? Too old and established?
Ahem (http://desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8729.msg307234#msg307234).
onto Waveland
Bump. Not sure but he might like hitting at Wrigley.
This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
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This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
Bump...
He's currently at 12 defensive runs saved. Next highest SS in the NL is at 5. Is that a significant amount?
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This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
Bump...
He's currently at 12 defensive runs saved. Next highest SS in the NL is at 5. Is that a significant amount?
He says, hours before Russell failed to bail out Arrieta's shaky 1st inning by not picking a DP grounder before making the only error in an otherwise sparkling defensive effort by the team.
Anybody you *don't* like at Arlington tomorrow, Fork?
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This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
Bump...
He's currently at 12 defensive runs saved. Next highest SS in the NL is at 5. Is that a significant amount?
He says, hours before Russell failed to bail out Arrieta's shaky 1st inning by not picking a DP grounder before making the only error in an otherwise sparkling defensive effort by the team.
Anybody you *don't* like at Arlington tomorrow, Fork?
I never liked
you, if that helps.
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This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
Bump...
He's currently at 12 defensive runs saved. Next highest SS in the NL is at 5. Is that a significant amount?
He says, hours before Russell failed to bail out Arrieta's shaky 1st inning by not picking a DP grounder before making the only error in an otherwise sparkling defensive effort by the team.
Anybody you *don't* like at Arlington tomorrow, Fork?
I never liked you, if that helps.
It doesn't, see, because I'm not racing at Arlington today.
And actually, odds are nobody's racing at Arlington today since the thoroughbred racing industry has taken such a hit through the years from casinos and gambling cafes that they've gone from only being dark one day a week (Tuesdays I think it was) to being dark the entire week for large swaths of summer. Sad, really; however, my original point, see, was a mere--how you say--"ball busting" based on your joyful positive of Addison to stem the tide of negativity related to his poor play for two months; that you painstakingly turd-mined to find something nice to say about him and he rewarded you by flubbing two ground balls; taken further, my suggestion plays on the superstitious belief that your words had an effect on Russell and that, by extension, I might be able to use your words for profit. It's fine that you don't like me, but your answer really was
not helpful
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This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
Bump...
He's currently at 12 defensive runs saved. Next highest SS in the NL is at 5. Is that a significant amount?
He says, hours before Russell failed to bail out Arrieta's shaky 1st inning by not picking a DP grounder before making the only error in an otherwise sparkling defensive effort by the team.
Anybody you *don't* like at Arlington tomorrow, Fork?
I never liked you, if that helps.
It doesn't, see, because I'm not racing at Arlington today.
And actually, odds are nobody's racing at Arlington today since the thoroughbred racing industry has taken such a hit through the years from casinos and gambling cafes that they've gone from only being dark one day a week (Tuesdays I think it was) to being dark the entire week for large swaths of summer. Sad, really; however, my original point, see, was a mere--how you say--"ball busting" based on your joyful positive of Addison to stem the tide of negativity related to his poor play for two months; that you painstakingly turd-mined to find something nice to say about him and he rewarded you by flubbing two ground balls; taken further, my suggestion plays on the superstitious belief that your words had an effect on Russell and that, by extension, I might be able to use your words for profit. It's fine that you don't like me, but your answer really was not helpful
Arlington being closed during the week is almost tragic. Back in the days when the age for playing the ponies in IL was 17, my high school allocated every other Friday for staff meetings and a 2 p.m. dismissal; Friday post at Arlington was at 3, allowing 17-year-old T.J. to supplement his part-time income by betting against horses like "Hueysencyclopedicknowledge," "Sensiblemoderate," "Forkjokes," "MikeDAnger," "FYC Patterson," "Dave Otto's Mustache," and others.
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This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
Bump...
He's currently at 12 defensive runs saved. Next highest SS in the NL is at 5. Is that a significant amount?
He says, hours before Russell failed to bail out Arrieta's shaky 1st inning by not picking a DP grounder before making the only error in an otherwise sparkling defensive effort by the team.
Anybody you *don't* like at Arlington tomorrow, Fork?
I never liked you, if that helps.
It doesn't, see, because I'm not racing at Arlington today.
And actually, odds are nobody's racing at Arlington today since the thoroughbred racing industry has taken such a hit through the years from casinos and gambling cafes that they've gone from only being dark one day a week (Tuesdays I think it was) to being dark the entire week for large swaths of summer. Sad, really; however, my original point, see, was a mere--how you say--"ball busting" based on your joyful positive of Addison to stem the tide of negativity related to his poor play for two months; that you painstakingly turd-mined to find something nice to say about him and he rewarded you by flubbing two ground balls; taken further, my suggestion plays on the superstitious belief that your words had an effect on Russell and that, by extension, I might be able to use your words for profit. It's fine that you don't like me, but your answer really was not helpful
Arlington being closed during the week is almost tragic. Back in the days when the age for playing the ponies in IL was 17, my high school allocated every other Friday for staff meetings and a 2 p.m. dismissal; Friday post at Arlington was at 3, allowing 17-year-old T.J. to supplement his part-time income by betting against horses like "Hueysencyclopedicknowledge," "Sensiblemoderate," "Forkjokes," "MikeDAnger," "FYC Patterson," "Dave Otto's Mustache," and others.
I bet on a horse named "Soon To Be Glue."
He lost.
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 20, 2017, 11:17:49 AM
This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
Bump...
He's currently at 12 defensive runs saved. Next highest SS in the NL is at 5. Is that a significant amount?
He says, hours before Russell failed to bail out Arrieta's shaky 1st inning by not picking a DP grounder before making the only error in an otherwise sparkling defensive effort by the team.
Anybody you *don't* like at Arlington tomorrow, Fork?
I never liked you, if that helps.
It doesn't, see, because I'm not racing at Arlington today.
And actually, odds are nobody's racing at Arlington today since the thoroughbred racing industry has taken such a hit through the years from casinos and gambling cafes that they've gone from only being dark one day a week (Tuesdays I think it was) to being dark the entire week for large swaths of summer. Sad, really; however, my original point, see, was a mere--how you say--"ball busting" based on your joyful positive of Addison to stem the tide of negativity related to his poor play for two months; that you painstakingly turd-mined to find something nice to say about him and he rewarded you by flubbing two ground balls; taken further, my suggestion plays on the superstitious belief that your words had an effect on Russell and that, by extension, I might be able to use your words for profit. It's fine that you don't like me, but your answer really was not helpful
Arlington being closed during the week is almost tragic. Back in the days when the age for playing the ponies in IL was 17, my high school allocated every other Friday for staff meetings and a 2 p.m. dismissal; Friday post at Arlington was at 3, allowing 17-year-old T.J. to supplement his part-time income by betting against horses like "Hueysencyclopedicknowledge," "Sensiblemoderate," "Forkjokes," "MikeDAnger," "FYC Patterson," "Dave Otto's Mustache," and others.
I bet on a horse named "Soon To Be Glue."
He lost.
No, Chuck.
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This weekend marks two years since the Cubs brought him up. He's been decent.
Bump...
He's currently at 12 defensive runs saved. Next highest SS in the NL is at 5. Is that a significant amount?
He says, hours before Russell failed to bail out Arrieta's shaky 1st inning by not picking a DP grounder before making the only error in an otherwise sparkling defensive effort by the team.
Anybody you *don't* like at Arlington tomorrow, Fork?
I never liked you, if that helps.
It doesn't, see, because I'm not racing at Arlington today.
And actually, odds are nobody's racing at Arlington today since the thoroughbred racing industry has taken such a hit through the years from casinos and gambling cafes that they've gone from only being dark one day a week (Tuesdays I think it was) to being dark the entire week for large swaths of summer. Sad, really; however, my original point, see, was a mere--how you say--"ball busting" based on your joyful positive of Addison to stem the tide of negativity related to his poor play for two months; that you painstakingly turd-mined to find something nice to say about him and he rewarded you by flubbing two ground balls; taken further, my suggestion plays on the superstitious belief that your words had an effect on Russell and that, by extension, I might be able to use your words for profit. It's fine that you don't like me, but your answer really was not helpful
Arlington being closed during the week is almost tragic. Back in the days when the age for playing the ponies in IL was 17, my high school allocated every other Friday for staff meetings and a 2 p.m. dismissal; Friday post at Arlington was at 3, allowing 17-year-old T.J. to supplement his part-time income by betting against horses like "Hueysencyclopedicknowledge," "Sensiblemoderate," "Forkjokes," "MikeDAnger," "FYC Patterson," "Dave Otto's Mustache," and others.
True story--as a 16 year old in 1988 I was taken to Sportsmans Park for my first trip to the track by my two corruption-motivated brothers (aged, 23 and 25). My oldest brother was doing his fair share of gambling at the time and in any event, both brothers made it a point to studiously pore over the program and the Daily Racing Form while I was too excited just being there and sipping on an underage beer to worry about such nuance so I simply opened the program, took a look at a name I liked ("shakerattleandkick") and put my hard-earned $2 on the horse...even though it was 17-1.
I'm sure you know where this is going, and I'll only add how humorous it must have looked...this juxtaposition of my two brothers again poring over the stats for the next race with their torn-up tickets from the just-completed 1st race at their feet as their 16 year old brother comes around the corner with a beer in one hand, a lit stogie--excitedly purchased from his $36 winnings--in the other, and an ear-to-ear grin that just screamed "beginner's luck" spread across his face.
DPD...it may have been Hawthorne, because both tracks were across the street from one another and alternated the schedule.
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DPD...it may have been Hawthorne, because both tracks were across the street from one another and alternated the schedule.
One was flats, one was harness, right?
My mate Nobby is, like me, a Southampton FC fan and once went to see the Saints play at home against Manchester United, at the time a vastly superior side. Nobby took an absolute flyer and had a fiver on Saints' defender Kenny "Super Kenny Monkou" Monkou to score first (40/1) and Saints to beat United 3-0 (25/1). Imagine his surprise when Kenny Monkou did indeed score first for Saints, who then went on not only to go three goals up, but to hold that lead up until the very last minute, when Ryan Giggs toe-poked home a goal for United that nobody in the entire country (including Ryan Giggs) gave the tiniest of flying fucks about... except my mate Nobby, who literally burst into tears as a full five large went down the crapper.
Poor Nobby.
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DPD...it may have been Hawthorne, because both tracks were across the street from one another and alternated the schedule.
One was flats, one was harness, right?
I'm
sure both had thoroughbreds (assuming that's what you mean by flats) because I'm
sure I'd been to both and we never went to that chariot racing bullshit, but now you've got me wondering. I think one may have had both but they both had thoroughbreds?
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My mate Nobby is, like me, a Southampton FC fan and once went to see the Saints play at home against Manchester United, at the time a vastly superior side. Nobby took an absolute flyer and had a fiver on Saints' defender Kenny "Super Kenny Monkou" Monkou to score first (40/1) and Saints to beat United 3-0 (25/1). Imagine his surprise when Kenny Monkou did indeed score first for Saints, who then went on not only to go three goals up, but to hold that lead up until the very last minute, when Ryan Giggs toe-poked home a goal for United that nobody in the entire country (including Ryan Giggs) gave the tiniest of flying fucks about... except my mate Nobby, who literally burst into tears as a full five large went down the crapper.
Poor Nobby.
This is
normally how gambling stories go by the way.
And why I don't hardly ever gamble anymore.
I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
I think we all should go to the track more often.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
I think we all should go to the track more often.
A Desipouting.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
Literally twice as good, eh? Sounds legit.
And i wasn't crying over Russell...I was just laughing at Fork for talking him up hours before he didn't exactly have his best game.
Calm down, short round. Your mischaracterizations and hyperbole are a bit much right now.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
Literally twice as good, eh? Sounds legit.
And i wasn't crying over Russell...I was just laughing at Fork for talking him up hours before he didn't exactly have his best game.
Calm down, short round. Your mischaracterizations and hyperbole are a bit much right now.
Not a meatball.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
I think we all should go to the track more often.
A Desipouting.
Every Sunday in Albany, California, (right next to Berkeley) we have dollar day at Golden Gate Field. Parking is a dollar; entrance fee is a dollar; program is a dollar; hot dog is a dollar; beer is a dollar. But a two dollar bet is two dollars.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
Literally twice as good, eh? Sounds legit.
And i wasn't crying over Russell...I was just laughing at Fork for talking him up hours before he didn't exactly have his best game.
Calm down, short round. Your mischaracterizations and hyperbole are a bit much right now.
Not a meatball.
Say some shitty things about Lackey, please, and how much he sucks. That shouldn't be hard. We need to keep this streak going.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
I think we all should go to the track more often.
A Desipouting.
Every Sunday in Albany, California, (right next to Berkeley) we have dollar day at Golden Gate Field. Parking is a dollar; entrance fee is a dollar; program is a dollar; hot dog is a dollar; beer is a dollar. But a two dollar bet is two dollars.
So, we all get out to the East Bay and the Desipio day at the races is on?
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
Literally twice as good, eh? Sounds legit.
And i wasn't crying over Russell...I was just laughing at Fork for talking him up hours before he didn't exactly have his best game.
Calm down, short round. Your mischaracterizations and hyperbole are a bit much right now.
Not a meatball.
Say some shitty things about Lackey, please, and how much he sucks. That shouldn't be hard. We need to keep this streak going.
John Lackey is the Huey of the Cubs' rotation.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
Literally twice as good, eh? Sounds legit.
And i wasn't crying over Russell...I was just laughing at Fork for talking him up hours before he didn't exactly have his best game.
Calm down, short round. Your mischaracterizations and hyperbole are a bit much right now.
Not a meatball.
Say some shitty things about Lackey, please, and how much he sucks. That shouldn't be hard. We need to keep this streak going.
John Lackey is the Huey of the Cubs' rotation.
*calls bookie*
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
I think we all should go to the track more often.
A Desipouting.
Every Sunday in Albany, California, (right next to Berkeley) we have dollar day at Golden Gate Field. Parking is a dollar; entrance fee is a dollar; program is a dollar; hot dog is a dollar; beer is a dollar. But a two dollar bet is two dollars.
It really starts to add up. That's how they get you.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
I think we all should go to the track more often.
A Desipouting.
Every Sunday in Albany, California, (right next to Berkeley) we have dollar day at Golden Gate Field. Parking is a dollar; entrance fee is a dollar; program is a dollar; hot dog is a dollar; beer is a dollar. But a two dollar bet is two dollars.
It really starts to add up. That's how they get you.
Everett Dirksen, sage.
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I think we're missing the meatballery of Huey crying over a silly error while ignoring that Russell has been, literally, twice as good a defender at SS this year as anyone else.
I think we all should go to the track more often.
A Desipouting.
Every Sunday in Albany, California, (right next to Berkeley) we have dollar day at Golden Gate Field. Parking is a dollar; entrance fee is a dollar; program is a dollar; hot dog is a dollar; beer is a dollar. But a two dollar bet is two dollars.
It really starts to add up. That's how they get you.
Everett Dirksen, sage.
All this talk about horse racing is making me want to revisit "Thirty Tons A Day". Great read, highly recommended.
Guess it wouldn't be entirely accurate to say Russell's not hitting anything at all.
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Guess it wouldn't be entirely accurate to say Russell's not hitting anything at all.
Did the story finally break? I've been seeing guys hinting loudly on Twitter.
ETA: Oh yeah...his (soon to be ex) wife and her best friend blew him up real good.
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Guess it wouldn't be entirely accurate to say Russell's not hitting anything at all.
Did the story finally break? I've been seeing guys hinting loudly on Twitter.
Openly discussed this morning on The Fart Throat & Mumble Mouth Show.
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Guess it wouldn't be entirely accurate to say Russell's not hitting anything at all.
Did the story finally break? I've been seeing guys hinting loudly on Twitter.
Openly discussed this morning on The Fart Throat & Mumble Mouth Show.
MLB is launching an investigation (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19578868/mlb-investigating-domestic-violence-accusation-chicago-cubs-addison-russell).
Really disappointed in Addison if this is true. Gonna be hard to root for him.
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Really disappointed in Addison if this is true. Gonna be hard to root for him.
I kind of wish that in all cases of domestic violence, or accused misconduct of pretty much any type, they kept the matters anonymous and private until a verdict is rendered. This kind of thing taints a person's reputation pretty much forever, regardless of the outcome.
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Really disappointed in Addison if this is true. Gonna be hard to root for him.
I kind of wish that in all cases of domestic violence, or accused misconduct of pretty much any type, they kept the matters anonymous and private until a verdict is rendered. This kind of thing taints a person's reputation pretty much forever, regardless of the outcome.
Come on. nobody even remembers Sammy Sosa and the rum bottle.
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Really disappointed in Addison if this is true. Gonna be hard to root for him.
I kind of wish that in all cases of domestic violence, or accused misconduct of pretty much any type, they kept the matters anonymous and private until a verdict is rendered. This kind of thing taints a person's reputation pretty much forever, regardless of the outcome.
Who is "they?" Instagram? People?
It's not like we found this out through law enforcement or the media.
I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
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Quote from: Canadouche on June 22, 2017, 09:03:07 PM
I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Curiously absent from your list, Starlin Castro.
Oh, yeah. Now I remember.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Curiously absent from your list, Starlin Castro.
Oh, yeah. Now I remember.
Yes, that, and Starlin Castro is a little better at baseball than Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez, no?
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
Well, we know that he committed adultery. With respect to the fact that he's hardly alone in that regard, it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
Well, we know that he committed adultery. With respect to the fact that he's hardly alone in that regard, it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.
Being shitty to your wife and committing assault aren't even in the same time zone.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
Well, we know that he committed adultery. With respect to the fact that he's hardly alone in that regard, it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.
Being shitty to your wife and committing assault aren't even in the same time zone.
Eating the last butter tart and committing murder are equally bad up in Canada.
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Quote from: Canadouche on June 22, 2017, 09:03:07 PM
I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
Well, we know that he committed adultery. With respect to the fact that he's hardly alone in that regard, it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.
Being shitty to your wife and committing assault aren't even in the same time zone.
Yes but while we know, at this point, that Russell is clearly guilty of the former, we cannot say we know he's guilty of the latter. The only suggestion has been a second-hand comment by someone who has not been backed up by the purported victim. No formal criminal investigation or complaints from the victim as far as we know and the only investigation is being done by Russell's employer and until the investigation complete, nobody can know what exactly to make of the assertion yet.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
Well, we know that he committed adultery. With respect to the fact that he's hardly alone in that regard, it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.
Being shitty to your wife and committing assault aren't even in the same time zone.
Yes but while we know, at this point, that Russell is clearly guilty of the former, we cannot say we know he's guilty of the latter. The only suggestion has been a second-hand comment by someone who has not been backed up by the purported victim. No formal criminal investigation or complaints from the victim as far as we know and the only investigation is being done by Russell's employer and until the investigation complete, nobody can know what exactly to make of the assertion yet.
All we know is that MLB doesn't bother sweeping this shit under the rug.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Curiously absent from your list, Starlin Castro.
Oh, yeah. Now I remember.
Yes, that, and Starlin Castro is a little better at baseball than Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez, no?
And a little worse at keeping law enforcement from getting involved.
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I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
Well, we know that he committed adultery. With respect to the fact that he's hardly alone in that regard, it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.
Being shitty to your wife and committing assault aren't even in the same time zone.
And that's the difference between being an immature scumbag, rather than a narcissistic abuser.
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Quote from: Canadouche on June 22, 2017, 09:03:07 PM
I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
Well, we know that he committed adultery. With respect to the fact that he's hardly alone in that regard, it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.
Being shitty to your wife and committing assault aren't even in the same time zone.
And that's the difference between being an immature scumbag, rather than a narcissistic abuser.
We actually don't know if he committed adultery either.
I mean, the signs certainly point there, but we don't know anything about the status of his relationships at different times.
Bailed out the bullpen/manager. Good work.
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Quote from: Canadouche on June 22, 2017, 09:03:07 PM
I wonder if Addison's early-season struggles were caused by stress from the drama at home. Perhaps the news getting out was actually a relief to him, because he wasn't hiding anything anymore.
Don't wonder about that.
There's no way to find out and it doesn't matter anyway.
At this point, they'll get a divorce, neither MLB nor law enforcement will do anything about it because it's unprovable and we'll just have to deal with rooting for a guy that might be a scumbag (admittedly any of them could be, but there's smoke here.)
That's the future as long as he's a Cub.
He's an immature scumbag at best. At worst, he's a narcissistic abuser. You can hope he becomes a better person. He is a good shortstop. I suppose Rey Sanchez, Alex Gonzalez, and Neifi Perez were wonderful citizens, husbands, and fathers.
Actually, he's completely innocent at best. The evidence we have is about as flimsy as possible.
And yet, probably true.
So here we are.
Well, we know that he committed adultery. With respect to the fact that he's hardly alone in that regard, it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.
Being shitty to your wife and committing assault aren't even in the same time zone.
And that's the difference between being an immature scumbag, rather than a narcissistic abuser.
We actually don't know if he committed adultery either.
I mean, the signs certainly point there, but we don't know anything about the status of his relationships at different times.
I missed this first time round but I just want to say that, not for the first time, I agree wholeheartedly with Pen. Relationships are almost never a one-way street and when somebody is "unfaithful", it might mean nothing more than that their cunt of a partner made life unbearable for them. Blaming people for "cheating" presupposes you know absolutely everything about their relationship, and - spoiler alert - you definitely don't.
Cheating is the business of those directly involved, and nobody else. The end.
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Yet another awful Addison strikeout. Neat.
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Yet another awful Addison strikeout. Neat.
Hey don't forget his two terrible baserunning mistakes
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Yet another awful Addison strikeout. Neat.
Hey don't forget his two terrible baserunning mistakes
You're including the one where he had to stop to avoid passing Schwarber, aren't you?
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Yet another awful Addison strikeout. Neat.
Hey don't forget his two terrible baserunning mistakes
You're including the one where he had to stop to avoid passing Schwarber, aren't you?
He was involved in two terrible baserunning blunders, and my large adult son is an innocent who is blameless in all things, therefore it's got to be Russell's fault.
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Yet another awful Addison strikeout. Neat.
Hey don't forget his two terrible baserunning mistakes
You're including the one where he had to stop to avoid passing Schwarber, aren't you?
He was involved in two terrible baserunning blunders, and my large adult son is an innocent who is blameless in all things, therefore it's got to be Russell's fault.
So he's my large adult grandson?
@orioles u like what u see? (https://twitter.com/tombrodude/status/613013185952653312?lang=en)
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@orioles u like what u see? (https://twitter.com/tombrodude/status/613013185952653312?lang=en)
I think this question should be put to Cubs Twitter.
He's injured right?
When does the Barry Larkin part start?
Melisa bravely details Addison Russell's abuse of her and its effects on her during their marriage. (https://lifewithmelis310373032.wordpress.com/2018/09/19/site-settings-you-no-longer-have-a-secret-you-have-a-story-wordpress-com/)
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Melisa bravely details Addison Russell's abuse of her and its effects on her during their marriage. (https://lifewithmelis310373032.wordpress.com/2018/09/19/site-settings-you-no-longer-have-a-secret-you-have-a-story-wordpress-com/)
My first thought is, "shit. He's with someone else now, and I hope she's not going through the same shit."
Second thought was, "The fucking Cubs ran an ad this spring with Russell talking about the importance of family."
He needs to go away, now.
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He needs to go away, now.
He's been optioned to Iowa, and I'd be shocked if you ever see him in a Cubs uniform again.
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He needs to go away, now.
He's been optioned to Iowa, and I'd be shocked if you ever see him in a Cubs uniform again.
I'm cool with that.
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He needs to go away, now.
He's been optioned to Iowa, and I'd be shocked if you ever see him in a Cubs uniform again.
I'm cool with that.
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Quote from: Canadouche on September 21, 2018, 03:04:56 PM
He needs to go away, now.
He's been optioned to Iowa, and I'd be shocked if you ever see him in a Cubs uniform again.
I'm cool with that.
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Quote from: Canadouche on September 21, 2018, 03:04:56 PM
He needs to go away, now.
He's been optioned to Iowa, and I'd be shocked if you ever see him in a Cubs uniform again.
Shocked, but not surprised?