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Title: Birdman
Post by: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Slaky on February 23, 2015, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

It's on demand now so I'm sure we'll be seeing it pretty soon. Not before Inherent Vice though.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: ChuckD on February 23, 2015, 11:32:50 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years.

Intrepid Reader: Michael Apted
(http://i.imgur.com/ZlIwA6F.png)
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: flannj on February 23, 2015, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.

When it happens it is absolutely soul crushing. You really wonder if your going to be able to handle it.
The good part is watching the amazing things they do with their lives. In the end it's very rewarding.

EDIT: I just realized this reads like I'm talking about the movie. I'm referring to REAL LIFE MAN!
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 02:20:08 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.

Eh... Given how the movie goes, you're kinda glad he gets out.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: InternetApex on February 23, 2015, 02:21:39 PM
I saw Birdman on Saturday. It's great cinema. Very nicely shot. The acting was terrific. The whole thing is set within one theater so it's like a play, you know, the shots keep going and follow the actors and shit. Yay? It's sort of an adaptation of Michael Keaton's real life.

I think for people who are in show business this is probably the greatest statement about acting and writing and theater and whatever that anyone ever dreamed up. I spoke to a friend who is an actor and he fucking adored this film.

I was mostly bored. I'm sorry. I see the value here but I wasn't hooked.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.
You have no idea.  We have four sons.  When the oldest moved out to go to college in 1980 the dynamic of our household changed.  Then every two years another moved out until all four were gone.  After 26 years Donna and I found ourselves with a very big empty house and a whole new kind of life.  Just wait until you start to think of yourself as a grandparent!
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: flannj on February 23, 2015, 05:14:26 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.
You have no idea.  We have four sons.  When the oldest moved out to go to college in 1980 the dynamic of our household changed.  Then every two years another moved out until all four were gone.  After 26 years Donna and I found ourselves with a very big empty house and a whole new kind of life.  Just wait until you start to think of yourself as a grandparent!

Alright Stew, that's quite enough out of you.
*shudders*
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: CT III on February 24, 2015, 08:47:54 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


Yeah, I can't even comprehend what that will be like. My in-laws took the kids over the weekend, and it was just bizarrely quiet.  The dog was going out of her mind trying to figure out what was happening.

Then they came back and my oldest said "You know dad, only 6 more years and I'll be able to drive" and I had heart palpitations.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 24, 2015, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 24, 2015, 08:47:54 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


Yeah, I can't even comprehend what that will be like. My in-laws took the kids over the weekend, and it was just bizarrely quiet.  The dog was going out of her mind trying to figure out what was happening.

Then they came back and my oldest said "You know dad, only 6 more years and I'll be able to drive" and I had heart palpitations.

Honest question--at what point will "driving" be completely automated, to the point where only us cool people get grandfathered in (and even then would not be allowed to drive on expressways)?  It seems like that point is not that far away and I figured it'll start to get implemented in our lifetimes Well, most of our lifetimes (sorry, Stew). 

CT's comment got me wondering as I have a feeling our kids may be the last batch where learning to manipulate a 2 ton ball of steel will be largely expected.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: CBStew on February 24, 2015, 10:02:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on February 24, 2015, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 24, 2015, 08:47:54 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


Yeah, I can't even comprehend what that will be like. My in-laws took the kids over the weekend, and it was just bizarrely quiet.  The dog was going out of her mind trying to figure out what was happening.

Then they came back and my oldest said "You know dad, only 6 more years and I'll be able to drive" and I had heart palpitations.

Honest question--at what point will "driving" be completely automated, to the point where only us cool people get grandfathered in (and even then would not be allowed to drive on expressways)?  It seems like that point is not that far away and I figured it'll start to get implemented in our lifetimes Well, most of our lifetimes (sorry, Stew). 

CT's comment got me wondering as I have a feeling our kids may be the last batch where learning to manipulate a 2 ton ball of steel will be largely expected.

You are too late.  Last year I drove by the Google Campus and there was a moving driverless car.  There was a passenger in the car, I assume it was just in case.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Saul Goodman on February 24, 2015, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2015, 02:21:39 PM
I saw Birdman on Saturday. It's great cinema. Very nicely shot. The acting was terrific. The whole thing is set within one theater so it's like a play, you know, the shots keep going and follow the actors and shit. Yay? It's sort of an adaptation of Michael Keaton's real life.

I think for people who are in show business this is probably the greatest statement about acting and writing and theater and whatever that anyone ever dreamed up. I spoke to a friend who is an actor and he fucking adored this film.

I was mostly bored. I'm sorry. I see the value here but I wasn't hooked.

The oldest filmmaking tip in the book: For Hollywood's everlasting adoration, make a dramatic movie about the Meaning of Hollywood.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 12:22:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2015, 02:21:39 PM
I saw Birdman on Saturday. It's great cinema. Very nicely shot. The acting was terrific. The whole thing is set within one theater so it's like a play, you know, the shots keep going and follow the actors and shit. Yay? It's sort of an adaptation of Michael Keaton's real life.

I think for people who are in show business this is probably the greatest statement about acting and writing and theater and whatever that anyone ever dreamed up. I spoke to a friend who is an actor and he fucking adored this film.

I was mostly bored. I'm sorry. I see the value here but I wasn't hooked.

The oldest filmmaking tip in the book: For Hollywood's everlasting adoration, make a dramatic movie about the Meaning of Hollywood.

Birdmeh.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 12:22:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2015, 02:21:39 PM
I saw Birdman on Saturday. It's great cinema. Very nicely shot. The acting was terrific. The whole thing is set within one theater so it's like a play, you know, the shots keep going and follow the actors and shit. Yay? It's sort of an adaptation of Michael Keaton's real life.

I think for people who are in show business this is probably the greatest statement about acting and writing and theater and whatever that anyone ever dreamed up. I spoke to a friend who is an actor and he fucking adored this film.

I was mostly bored. I'm sorry. I see the value here but I wasn't hooked.

The oldest filmmaking tip in the book: For Hollywood's everlasting adoration, make a dramatic movie about the Meaning of Hollywood.

Birdmeh.

Take it elsewhere, boys.  This thread's for discussing other films, the circle of life, and hover cars.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Eli on February 24, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


As someone who's currently exhausted from my first, a 6-month-old (who's a great baby, but still a baby), I'm unsure how to feel about this. I know I'll miss the baby stage*, but it sometimes sounds fun to parent a child who's a little more self-sufficient. But I know every age comes with its own challenges.

Lesson: You never want what you currently have and life is very, very sad.

* Until we just have another one, I guess?
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 24, 2015, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


As someone who's currently exhausted from my first, a 6-month-old (who's a great baby, but still a baby), I'm unsure how to feel about this. I know I'll miss the baby stage*, but it sometimes sounds fun to parent a child who's a little more self-sufficient. But I know every age comes with its own challenges.

Lesson: You never want what you currently have and life is very, very sad.

* Until we just have another one, I guess?

You're right.  Every age has its own memorable moments but, speaking for myself-- the period between ages 3 and 6 is the real sweet spot.  At 3 they're not only interpreting the world (which, to be fair, they've done since Day 1) but they have the ability communicate it, and it's kind of cool to be able to see how the world appears to them.  By 6 they're still largely innocent and haven't become good at lying.

Actually my 4 year old's a pretty good liar now, but only because he has an older sister who helped speed up the development.  So I'd say 6 is the end of that particular brand of innocence for your FIRST-born.  Just my $0.02.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


As someone who's currently exhausted from my first, a 6-month-old (who's a great baby, but still a baby), I'm unsure how to feel about this. I know I'll miss the baby stage*, but it sometimes sounds fun to parent a child who's a little more self-sufficient. But I know every age comes with its own challenges.

Lesson: You never want what you currently have and life is very, very sad.

* Until we just have another one, I guess?

I don't miss the baby stage, at all.  The first six weeks of fatherhood were far and away the worst of my life.  Utterly, utterly fucking miserable.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: PenFoe on February 24, 2015, 01:34:29 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


As someone who's currently exhausted from my first, a 6-month-old (who's a great baby, but still a baby), I'm unsure how to feel about this. I know I'll miss the baby stage*, but it sometimes sounds fun to parent a child who's a little more self-sufficient. But I know every age comes with its own challenges.

Lesson: You never want what you currently have and life is very, very sad.

* Until we just have another one, I guess?

I don't miss the baby stage, at all.  The first six weeks of fatherhood were far and away the worst of my life.  Utterly, utterly fucking miserable.

Terrifying, but miserable? No way.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on February 24, 2015, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
I don't miss the baby stage, at all.  The first six weeks of fatherhood were far and away the worst of my life.  Utterly, utterly fucking miserable.

http://hje.me/ci/sbox/day/2013/3/27/p150531765#p150531765

Quote from: TonkerWe're looking after a cat for a friend over Easter.

I hate it and wish it would go away.

http://hje.me/ci/sbox/day/2013/3/27/p150532237#p150532237

Quote from: TonkerI'm not kidding, I really fucking detest them. This is worse than the first time I got left alone with my baby son.

http://hje.me/ci/sbox/day/2013/3/27/p150532247#p150532247

Quote from: TonkerI knew far more about babies than I know about cats, and I knew fuck all about babies.

http://hje.me/ci/sbox/day/2013/4/3/p150667165#p150667165

Quote from: TonkerTurns out, cats are pretty low maintenance and quite nice to have around. I wish one of you would of told me that.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
I don't miss the baby stage, at all.  The first six weeks of fatherhood were far and away the worst of my life.  Utterly, utterly fucking miserable.

If I recall, you had a different experience than most parents.  Henrik had a bit of a scare, didn't he?
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 24, 2015, 01:34:29 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


As someone who's currently exhausted from my first, a 6-month-old (who's a great baby, but still a baby), I'm unsure how to feel about this. I know I'll miss the baby stage*, but it sometimes sounds fun to parent a child who's a little more self-sufficient. But I know every age comes with its own challenges.

Lesson: You never want what you currently have and life is very, very sad.

* Until we just have another one, I guess?

I don't miss the baby stage, at all.  The first six weeks of fatherhood were far and away the worst of my life.  Utterly, utterly fucking miserable.

Terrifying, but miserable? No way.

Well, thanks for that - but I assure you, they were.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
I don't miss the baby stage, at all.  The first six weeks of fatherhood were far and away the worst of my life.  Utterly, utterly fucking miserable.

If I recall, you had a different experience than most parents.  Henrik had a bit of a scare, didn't he?

Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Yeti on February 24, 2015, 02:18:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
DPD.

Mrs. flannj and I just got a call from the oldest, he's taking a break from law classes / studies and coming home for Sunday dinner and staying until Monday night.
Anything he wants is on the menu.

Tonk, I am sure that Stew would agree that these are the simple things you look forward to when empty nesting is your way of life.


As someone who's currently exhausted from my first, a 6-month-old (who's a great baby, but still a baby), I'm unsure how to feel about this. I know I'll miss the baby stage*, but it sometimes sounds fun to parent a child who's a little more self-sufficient. But I know every age comes with its own challenges.

Lesson: You never want what you currently have and life is very, very sad.

* Until we just have another one, I guess?

Eli wants to drink with his kid
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Bort on February 24, 2015, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

I blame Twitter.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Saul Goodman on February 24, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

Time to waive that college scholarship goodbye.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 24, 2015, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

I blame Twitter.

He's off for a long time.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

Time to waive that college scholarship goodbye.

Waive or wave?
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on February 24, 2015, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

Time to waive that college scholarship goodbye.

Waive or wave?

(http://i.imgur.com/cDpyp6p.jpg)
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: CT III on February 24, 2015, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 24, 2015, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

Time to waive that college scholarship goodbye.

Waive or wave?

(http://i.imgur.com/cDpyp6p.jpg)

How do you sleep at night?
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: SKO on February 24, 2015, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.


...............oh shit.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 24, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 24, 2015, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

Time to waive that college scholarship goodbye.

Waive or wave?

(http://i.imgur.com/cDpyp6p.jpg)

To be fair, my potato brain missed it until Chuck went all Joke Explainer on us.  So, I for one both appreciate Chuck's help as well as Archer's joke.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: flannj on February 24, 2015, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2015, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.


...............oh shit.

Just keep the young'uns in hand me down overalls and Carhartt. The whole clan will do jus' fine.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Eli on February 24, 2015, 10:27:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2015, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.


...............oh shit.

You'll really be fine. Talk to other dads. Adjust your expectations a bit. Watch Birdman or something if you get spare time; it really sounds like your kind of film.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Bort on February 24, 2015, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 10:27:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2015, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.


...............oh shit.

You'll really be fine. Talk to other dads. Adjust your expectations a bit. Watch Birdman or something if you get spare time; it really sounds like your kind of film.

Just remember: if you're up all hours of the night, don't just tweet about Holiday Road. It's been done.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: InternetApex on February 25, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: Bort on February 24, 2015, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 10:27:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2015, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.


...............oh shit.

You'll really be fine. Talk to other dads. Adjust your expectations a bit. Watch Birdman or something if you get spare time; it really sounds like your kind of film.

Just remember: if you're up all hours of the night, don't just tweet about Holiday Road. It's been done.

I was thinking that this thread hijack was unfortunate and should have happened in a subsequent Boyhood thread. But now I realize this is the perfect conversation for this film. There are a lot of important things being said on a topic that I have absolutely no interest in. So I'm going to just watch and nod and appreciate that other people have different interests than me. I'm ok with my perfectly self-centered existence after all.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 25, 2015, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: Bort on February 24, 2015, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 10:27:50 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 24, 2015, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.


...............oh shit.

You'll really be fine. Talk to other dads. Adjust your expectations a bit. Watch Birdman or something if you get spare time; it really sounds like your kind of film.

Just remember: if you're up all hours of the night, don't just tweet about Holiday Road. It's been done.

I'm expecting more Gretchen Wilson related stuff.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2015, 02:33:58 PM
Mrs. Butthead is due to pop out our first in a couple weeks. This whole thread is terrifying. I feel like we're reverse empty nesters. We've been together sans kid for close to 20 years, so this might be a bit of an adjustment.

I thought Boyhood was amazing. It was exciting and boring and happy and depressing all at the same time.

I haven't seen Birdman.

I don't know what thread I'm in.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 25, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 25, 2015, 02:33:58 PM
Mrs. Butthead is due to pop out our first in a couple weeks. This whole thread is terrifying. I feel like we're reverse empty nesters. We've been together sans kid for close to 20 years, so this might be a bit of an adjustment.

I thought Boyhood was amazing. It was exciting and boring and happy and depressing all at the same time.

I haven't seen Birdman.

I don't know what thread I'm in.


Kudos to you and Amanda, Tony.  Get as much sleep as you can--you'll miss it once the baby comes.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on February 27, 2015, 02:20:53 AM
That's fantastic news, Tony, I'm made up for you, dude.

Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Bort on February 27, 2015, 08:31:48 AM
Great news. Congrats, Tony.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 27, 2015, 08:57:47 AM
May Baby Butthead be born happy, healthy, and ready to enjoy a lifetime of Cubs success.

Congratulations to both of you.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: PenFoe on February 27, 2015, 10:16:57 AM
Quote from: Tonker on February 27, 2015, 02:20:53 AM
That's fantastic news, Tony, I'm made up for you, dude.


I have no idea what you're trying to say, so I assume this.

(http://imgmf0.starnow.com/40/1652140_4147796.jpg)
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 27, 2015, 11:10:01 AM
I'm sure Apex is really loving this thread now.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on March 02, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 24, 2015, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

I blame Twitter.

He's off for a long time. 6 days.

Still--probably felt like an eternity for the kid'd.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on March 17, 2015, 01:56:11 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 23, 2015, 02:21:39 PM
I saw Birdman on Saturday. It's great cinema. Very nicely shot. The acting was terrific. The whole thing is set within one theater so it's like a play, you know, the shots keep going and follow the actors and shit. Yay? It's sort of an adaptation of Michael Keaton's real life.

I think for people who are in show business this is probably the greatest statement about acting and writing and theater and whatever that anyone ever dreamed up. I spoke to a friend who is an actor and he fucking adored this film.

I was mostly bored. I'm sorry. I see the value here but I wasn't hooked.

I've spent a fair bit of time in theatres and backstage, one way and another, and Birdman did pretty much nail it.  It mostly just reminded me of most of the things I dislike about being in theatres and backstage, though.  The performances, as Peck says, from Keaton, Norton and Stone are excellent.  I didn't hate it, although it was a bit (unnecessarily) weird.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on March 17, 2015, 08:43:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 02, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 24, 2015, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

I blame Twitter.

He's off for a long time. 6 days.

Still--probably felt like an eternity for the kid'd.

I didn't change his password.  I meant to.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Yeti on March 17, 2015, 11:19:39 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 17, 2015, 08:43:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 02, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 24, 2015, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

I blame Twitter.

He's off for a long time. 6 days.

Still--probably felt like an eternity for the kid'd.

I didn't change his password.  I meant to.

Tolerate So much Bullshit
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Quality Start Machine on March 17, 2015, 01:37:31 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 17, 2015, 08:43:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 02, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: Bort on February 24, 2015, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 24, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 24, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
Yeah, several.  It was pretty hairy, one way and another, but honestly, even if he'd been a picture of health, I'd quite possibly still have found it overwhelming and deeply unpleasant.  My whole fucking life got turned completely upside-down and I didn't like it one bit.

I thought the first two weeks were awesome, since she was sleeping like 22 hours a day. Weeks 2-6 were pretty tough in a what-the-hell-have-I-done sort of way and are mostly a blur.

I've heard from very few dads who *love* having an infant, so I think this is a fairly universal thing. For whatever reason, new-dad struggles are something that isn't talked about a lot, so it came as a bit of a shock to me. I remember thinking that I was a bad person because I was certainly not "treasuring" every moment (as I was told to do by every old person at the grocery store). It still feels that way a bit, but less so even after a few months.

You're absolutely right.  People looked at me strange when I talked about how bloody difficult I was finding it, which just made me all the more determined not to make a secret of it.  I'm not ashamed of how I felt.  I think it was entirely underfuckingstandable, considering what had just happened to my previously self-centred existence.

First 4 months sucked. Then they start to play and it's fun.

Until they turn 15, fuck up their biology test, don't ask for help, and have a shitty-for-what-he-can-really-do first semester of high school.

I blame Twitter.

He's off for a long time. 6 days.

Still--probably felt like an eternity for the kid'd.

I didn't change his password.  I meant to.

He would have gotten "AwfulonsoSorryano12" on his first try anyway.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: flannj on December 27, 2015, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.

After four awesome Christmas days with a full house...

Just put the oldest on a train to go back downtown.
Palmed a hundred to the middle one for "gas" as he drives back to his apartment.
The baby daughter just left with friends until Thursday.

This isn't getting any easier.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on January 04, 2016, 04:29:47 PM
Quote from: flannj on December 27, 2015, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.

After four awesome Christmas days with a full house...

Just put the oldest on a train to go back downtown.
Palmed a hundred to the middle one for "gas" as he drives back to his apartment.
The baby daughter just left with friends until Thursday.

This isn't getting any easier.

Old buddy, it's not that I'm not interested, or that I don't sympathise: on the contrary, my heart bleeds for you... I just don't want to even think about it.  Ignoring problems is how you make them go away, right?
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Bort on January 04, 2016, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: Tonker on January 04, 2016, 04:29:47 PM
Quote from: flannj on December 27, 2015, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.

After four awesome Christmas days with a full house...

Just put the oldest on a train to go back downtown.
Palmed a hundred to the middle one for "gas" as he drives back to his apartment.
The baby daughter just left with friends until Thursday.

This isn't getting any easier.

Old buddy, it's not that I'm not interested, or that I don't sympathise: on the contrary, my heart bleeds for you... I just don't want to even think about it.  Ignoring problems is how you make them go away, right?

Thank goodness my son is going to be a toddler forever.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: PenFoe on June 09, 2016, 08:43:40 PM
I saw Birdman and I just finished Boyhood but I have no idea what thread to post in.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: Tonker on June 10, 2016, 06:30:15 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 09, 2016, 08:43:40 PM
I saw Birdman and I just finished Boyhood but I have no idea what thread to post in.

Well, this definitely isn't the right place for Birdman shit, and if you want to talk about Boyhood or kids leaving home, Flannj and I would appreciate it if you'd keep it to yourself anyway.
Title: Re: Birdman
Post by: flannj on October 09, 2016, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: Bort on January 04, 2016, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: Tonker on January 04, 2016, 04:29:47 PM
Quote from: flannj on December 27, 2015, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Tonker on February 23, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 23, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: flannj on February 23, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 23, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
So did anyone even fucking see this thing?

Is it any good? I have heard only from people who think it's just some visionary masterpiece and people so incensed at it for being pretentious garbage they walked out of the theater.

"Pretentious garbage"?  That is my kind of movie!  My TV has been trying to get me to watch it.  Maybe I will.

Stew didn't even see this? WHO SAW THIS MOVIE

I did and I liked it, Keaton and Norton were excellent.
But I liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and Boyhood even more.
The Theory of Everything was my favorite of all the best picture nominees.
(haven't seen Whiplash yet)

Saw Boyhood Friday evening. It's fine.  Nothing special in terms of story.  Amazing that they were able to keep the project together over 12 years. The last act seems partially culled from Before Sunrise.

Much as, in some ways, I'd love to watch it, I've been deliberately avoiding "Boyhood".  The prospect of watching a film about a kid growing up and leaving home scares the fucking willies out of me.

After four awesome Christmas days with a full house...

Just put the oldest on a train to go back downtown.
Palmed a hundred to the middle one for "gas" as he drives back to his apartment.
The baby daughter just left with friends until Thursday.

This isn't getting any easier.

Old buddy, it's not that I'm not interested, or that I don't sympathise: on the contrary, my heart bleeds for you... I just don't want to even think about it.  Ignoring problems is how you make them go away, right?
Thank goodness my son is going to be a toddler forever.
God, why can't there be a Cubs game tonight?