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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 05, 2015, 03:22:34 PM
And... we're underway (in a few hours).

Quote from: PANK! on April 06, 2015, 05:30:58 AM
I enjoyed the game, if not the outcome.  Good to see baseball back.  

I look forward to seeing Soler develop.  His first 3 AB's again Wainwright were neat to watch, even if he had nothing to show for it.  He fell behind 1-2 the first time up and managed to roll one the other way to move the runner to third with 1 out his first time up.  And in his second at-bat, he battled, and saw a good number of pitches before going down on strikes and sure enough, his third time up, he seemed to have sized up Wainwright when he hit a humpback liner that Holliday made one of his famous circus-like penis catches on.  Soler's play in RF was uneven--beginning with the bobbled ball on his first chance.  Also, Castro and Alcantara need to do a better job of knocking down shitty throws on stolen base attempts.  Twice yesterday a SB attempt turned into two bases.  Tommy La Stella made two nice plays at 2nd, Olt looked good on a play at third.  Olt also had 1 decent at-bat and got hosed on 3-2 pitch (or Wainwright just threw a perfect pitch, take your pick).

Not worried about the offense.  Wainwright's a top pitcher who didn't give in on any of those RISPs and the Cub hitters are of course still pretty green.  IT GETS BETTER.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 08:07:13 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 06, 2015, 05:30:58 AM
I enjoyed the game, if not the outcome.  Good to see baseball back.  

I look forward to seeing Soler develop.  His first 3 AB's again Wainwright were neat to watch, even if he had nothing to show for it.  He fell behind 1-2 the first time up and managed to roll one the other way to move the runner to third with 1 out his first time up.  And in his second at-bat, he battled, and saw a good number of pitches before going down on strikes and sure enough, his third time up, he seemed to have sized up Wainwright when he hit a humpback liner that Holliday made one of his famous circus-like penis catches on.  Soler's play in RF was uneven--beginning with the bobbled ball on his first chance.  Also, Castro and Alcantara need to do a better job of knocking down shitty throws on stolen base attempts.  Twice yesterday a SB attempt turned into two bases.  Tommy La Stella made two nice plays at 2nd, Olt looked good on a play at third.  Olt also had 1 decent at-bat and got hosed on 3-2 pitch (or Wainwright just threw a perfect pitch, take your pick).

Not worried about the offense.  Wainwright's a top pitcher who didn't give in on any of those RISPs and the Cub hitters are of course still pretty green.  IT GETS BETTER.

And that strike zone was garbage. For both teams, and it was fairly inconsistent. Soler's first K especially was a direct result of him having to chase a pitch he probably would have laid off of were it not for Rizzo being rung up on a pitch in that same location.

Quote from: PANK! on April 06, 2015, 05:30:58 AM
I enjoyed the game, if not the outcome.  Good to see baseball back.  

I look forward to seeing Soler develop.  His first 3 AB's again Wainwright were neat to watch, even if he had nothing to show for it.  He fell behind 1-2 the first time up and managed to roll one the other way to move the runner to third with 1 out his first time up.  And in his second at-bat, he battled, and saw a good number of pitches before going down on strikes and sure enough, his third time up, he seemed to have sized up Wainwright when he hit a humpback liner that Holliday made one of his famous circus-like penis catches on.  Soler's play in RF was uneven--beginning with the bobbled ball on his first chance.  Also, Castro and Alcantara need to do a better job of knocking down shitty throws on stolen base attempts.  Twice yesterday a SB attempt turned into two bases.  Tommy La Stella made two nice plays at 2nd, Olt looked good on a play at third.  Olt also had 1 decent at-bat and got hosed on 3-2 pitch (or Wainwright just threw a perfect pitch, take your pick).

Not worried about the offense.  Wainwright's a top pitcher who didn't give in on any of those RISPs and the Cub hitters are of course still pretty green.  IT GETS BETTER.

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
Everyone just calm down. Brett at Bleacher Nation brought it to my attention that there are still 161 (!) games left this year! Who knew?

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Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
Everyone just calm down. Brett at Bleacher Nation brought it to my attention that there are still 161 (!) games left this year! Who knew?

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:18:51 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
Everyone just calm down. Brett at Bleacher Nation brought it to my attention that there are still 161 (!) games left this year! Who knew?

I look forward to opening day so much every year and forget the 90 things that suck about it.

1) Early season Wrigley is a cruel mistress
2) Meatballs and columnists overreacting
3) Bloggers competing to be the first one to make fun/yell at people for overreacting
4) The stupid awful day after where there is no game that allows horrible opinions on both sides to cook for an extra 36 hours of stupid.
5) Some asshole who is going to misunderstand hyperbole and point out that I still have like 85 things left to list

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:18:51 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
Everyone just calm down. Brett at Bleacher Nation brought it to my attention that there are still 161 (!) games left this year! Who knew?

I look forward to opening day so much every year and forget the 90 things that suck about it.

1) Early season Wrigley is a cruel mistress
2) Meatballs and columnists overreacting
3) Bloggers competing to be the first one to make fun/yell at people for overreacting
4) The stupid awful day after where there is no game that allows horrible opinions on both sides to cook for an extra 36 hours of stupid.
5) Some asshole who is going to misunderstand hyperbole and point out that I still have like 85 things left to list

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 09:27:01 AM
At least we have Deadspin's crusade against Wrigley renovations to enjoy.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 09:27:01 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:18:51 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
Everyone just calm down. Brett at Bleacher Nation brought it to my attention that there are still 161 (!) games left this year! Who knew?

I look forward to opening day so much every year and forget the 90 things that suck about it.

1) Early season Wrigley is a cruel mistress
2) Meatballs and columnists overreacting
3) Bloggers competing to be the first one to make fun/yell at people for overreacting
4) The stupid awful day after where there is no game that allows horrible opinions on both sides to cook for an extra 36 hours of stupid.
5) Some asshole who is going to misunderstand hyperbole and point out that I still have like 85 things left to list

At least we have Deadspin's crusade against Wrigley renovations to enjoy.

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 09:27:01 AM
At least we have Deadspin's crusade against Wrigley renovations to enjoy.

Do we have a renovation thread 'round here? Last night did sound like a total nightmare.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Crane Kenney and Co. deserve every bit of shit thrown their way. No one is saying Wrigley didn't need renovations, but to act like the Cubs haven't botched these renovations in every embarrassing way possible is fucking stupid

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 09:43:59 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Crane Kenney and Co. deserve every bit of shit thrown their way. No one is saying Wrigley didn't need renovations, but to act like the Cubs haven't botched these renovations in every embarrassing way possible is fucking stupid

Hard to argue with this.

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 09:43:59 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Crane Kenney and Co. deserve every bit of shit thrown their way. No one is saying Wrigley didn't need renovations, but to act like the Cubs haven't botched these renovations in every embarrassing way possible is fucking stupid

Hard to argue with this.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:38:25 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 06, 2015, 09:27:01 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:18:51 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
Everyone just calm down. Brett at Bleacher Nation brought it to my attention that there are still 161 (!) games left this year! Who knew?

I look forward to opening day so much every year and forget the 90 things that suck about it.

1) Early season Wrigley is a cruel mistress
2) Meatballs and columnists overreacting
3) Bloggers competing to be the first one to make fun/yell at people for overreacting
4) The stupid awful day after where there is no game that allows horrible opinions on both sides to cook for an extra 36 hours of stupid.
5) Some asshole who is going to misunderstand hyperbole and point out that I still have like 85 things left to list

At least we have Deadspin's crusade against Wrigley renovations to enjoy.

Crane Kenney and Co. deserve every bit of shit thrown their way. No one is saying Wrigley didn't need renovations, but to act like the Cubs haven't botched these renovations in every embarrassing way possible is fucking stupid

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:48:34 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 06, 2015, 09:43:59 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Crane Kenney and Co. deserve every bit of shit thrown their way. No one is saying Wrigley didn't need renovations, but to act like the Cubs haven't botched these renovations in every embarrassing way possible is fucking stupid

Hard to argue with this.

I will side with the Cubs against the rooftops, because fuck them, but season ticket holders not being able to sit in bleachers that were supposed to be finished have a right to be a little angry, although most of us will trade that for Al being unhappy, sure. Fans moaning that the team couldn't figure out a solution to something as simple as temporary fucking bathrooms have the right to complain. It's a joke.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 08:07:13 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 06, 2015, 05:30:58 AM
I enjoyed the game, if not the outcome.  Good to see baseball back.  

I look forward to seeing Soler develop.  His first 3 AB's again Wainwright were neat to watch, even if he had nothing to show for it.  He fell behind 1-2 the first time up and managed to roll one the other way to move the runner to third with 1 out his first time up.  And in his second at-bat, he battled, and saw a good number of pitches before going down on strikes and sure enough, his third time up, he seemed to have sized up Wainwright when he hit a humpback liner that Holliday made one of his famous circus-like penis catches on.  Soler's play in RF was uneven--beginning with the bobbled ball on his first chance.  Also, Castro and Alcantara need to do a better job of knocking down shitty throws on stolen base attempts.  Twice yesterday a SB attempt turned into two bases.  Tommy La Stella made two nice plays at 2nd, Olt looked good on a play at third.  Olt also had 1 decent at-bat and got hosed on 3-2 pitch (or Wainwright just threw a perfect pitch, take your pick).

Not worried about the offense.  Wainwright's a top pitcher who didn't give in on any of those RISPs and the Cub hitters are of course still pretty green.  IT GETS BETTER.

And that strike zone was garbage. For both teams, and it was fairly inconsistent. Soler's first K especially was a direct result of him having to chase a pitch he probably would have laid off of were it not for Rizzo being rung up on a pitch in that same location.

Quote from: CBStew on April 06, 2015, 11:59:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 08:07:13 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 06, 2015, 05:30:58 AM
I enjoyed the game, if not the outcome.  Good to see baseball back.  

I look forward to seeing Soler develop.  His first 3 AB's again Wainwright were neat to watch, even if he had nothing to show for it.  He fell behind 1-2 the first time up and managed to roll one the other way to move the runner to third with 1 out his first time up.  And in his second at-bat, he battled, and saw a good number of pitches before going down on strikes and sure enough, his third time up, he seemed to have sized up Wainwright when he hit a humpback liner that Holliday made one of his famous circus-like penis catches on.  Soler's play in RF was uneven--beginning with the bobbled ball on his first chance.  Also, Castro and Alcantara need to do a better job of knocking down shitty throws on stolen base attempts.  Twice yesterday a SB attempt turned into two bases.  Tommy La Stella made two nice plays at 2nd, Olt looked good on a play at third.  Olt also had 1 decent at-bat and got hosed on 3-2 pitch (or Wainwright just threw a perfect pitch, take your pick).

Not worried about the offense.  Wainwright's a top pitcher who didn't give in on any of those RISPs and the Cub hitters are of course still pretty green.  IT GETS BETTER.

And that strike zone was garbage. For both teams, and it was fairly inconsistent. Soler's first K especially was a direct result of him having to chase a pitch he probably would have laid off of were it not for Rizzo being rung up on a pitch in that same location.

The idiot Curt Schilling kept on apologizing for the umpire's strike zone saying that he was being consistent when it was clear that the umpire didn't have a clue and seemed to be calling balls and strikes just to appear to be impartial with his judgment.

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 12:11:19 PM

Quote from: CBStew on April 06, 2015, 11:59:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2015, 08:07:13 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 06, 2015, 05:30:58 AM
I enjoyed the game, if not the outcome.  Good to see baseball back.  

I look forward to seeing Soler develop.  His first 3 AB's again Wainwright were neat to watch, even if he had nothing to show for it.  He fell behind 1-2 the first time up and managed to roll one the other way to move the runner to third with 1 out his first time up.  And in his second at-bat, he battled, and saw a good number of pitches before going down on strikes and sure enough, his third time up, he seemed to have sized up Wainwright when he hit a humpback liner that Holliday made one of his famous circus-like penis catches on.  Soler's play in RF was uneven--beginning with the bobbled ball on his first chance.  Also, Castro and Alcantara need to do a better job of knocking down shitty throws on stolen base attempts.  Twice yesterday a SB attempt turned into two bases.  Tommy La Stella made two nice plays at 2nd, Olt looked good on a play at third.  Olt also had 1 decent at-bat and got hosed on 3-2 pitch (or Wainwright just threw a perfect pitch, take your pick).

Not worried about the offense.  Wainwright's a top pitcher who didn't give in on any of those RISPs and the Cub hitters are of course still pretty green.  IT GETS BETTER.

And that strike zone was garbage. For both teams, and it was fairly inconsistent. Soler's first K especially was a direct result of him having to chase a pitch he probably would have laid off of were it not for Rizzo being rung up on a pitch in that same location.

The idiot Curt Schilling kept on apologizing for the umpire's strike zone saying that he was being consistent when it was clear that the umpire didn't have a clue and seemed to be calling balls and strikes just to appear to be impartial with his judgment.

The only thing that appeared to be consistent was that "6 inches outside the middle of the plate" was a strike. Everything else was choose your adventure

Quote from: InternetApex on April 08, 2015, 03:49:00 PM
Miguel Montero is the balls by the way. I love listening to him talk about the pitchers.

Quote from: Tonker on April 08, 2015, 03:49:58 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on April 08, 2015, 03:49:00 PM
Miguel Montero is the balls by the way. I love listening to him talk about the pitchers.

I was just thinking this.  He speaks well, seems like an intelligent bloke.

Quote from: Bonk on April 10, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
So WGN games aren't on WGN outside of Chicago anymore?

I get the baseball package so it doesn't matter much to me anyway, but was that an MLB thing a la the NHL or was that the Cubs' decision?

Quote from: Yeti on April 10, 2015, 02:46:51 PM

Quote from: Bonk on April 10, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
So WGN games aren't on WGN outside of Chicago anymore?

I get the baseball package so it doesn't matter much to me anyway, but was that an MLB thing a la the NHL or was that the Cubs' decision?

I get them on a random channel in Springfield, but I'm not sure if that's for all the ABC/WGN games

Quote from: CBStew on April 10, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
Wait.  What?  I won't be able to listen to Cub games on my computer? 

Quote from: InternetApex on April 12, 2015, 09:42:43 AM

Quote from: CBStew on April 10, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
Wait.  What?  I won't be able to listen to Cub games on my computer? 

If you're struggling with it, you might want to contact your IT staff.

Quote from: CBStew on April 12, 2015, 10:11:10 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on April 12, 2015, 09:42:43 AM

Quote from: CBStew on April 10, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
Wait.  What?  I won't be able to listen to Cub games on my computer? 

If you're struggling with it, you might want to contact your IT staff.

The law firm has rigid rules.  We can't look at porn at work or listen to Cubs games.  They are kind of the same thing.

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Quote from: Fork on April 14, 2015, 07:38:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 14, 2015, 07:41:05 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 14, 2015, 07:38:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:26:48 AM
I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible. 

Quote from: ChuckD on April 14, 2015, 10:30:21 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:26:48 AM
I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible. 

Too late.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:26:48 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 14, 2015, 07:41:05 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 14, 2015, 07:38:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible. 

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:32:31 AM

Quote from: ChuckD on April 14, 2015, 10:30:21 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:26:48 AM
I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible. 

Too late.

I don't think that deal for the Padres is embarrassing yet. 

They wouldn't do it again, I'm sure, but Cashner's still a good pitcher when healthy.

Quote from: InternetApex on April 14, 2015, 10:42:38 AM
They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

Quote from: Eli on April 14, 2015, 10:49:23 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on April 14, 2015, 10:42:38 AM
They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

This. The Rangers deal for Garza is a good example -- even in hindsight, they gave up three relievers and a busted prospect for a very good pitcher (at the time). It didn't work out for them, but that's how deadline deals go sometimes. The trade has been beneficial for the Cubs, but I don't think it's the fleecing everyone likes to say it is.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:51:08 AM
That's because you don't believe in C.J. Edwards.

He's going to be the best.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:51:08 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 14, 2015, 10:49:23 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on April 14, 2015, 10:42:38 AM
They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

This. The Rangers deal for Garza is a good example -- even in hindsight, they gave up three relievers and a busted prospect for a very good pitcher (at the time). It didn't work out for them, but that's how deadline deals go sometimes. The trade has been beneficial for the Cubs, but I don't think it's the fleecing everyone likes to say it is.

That's because you don't believe in C.J. Edwards.

He's going to be the best part of a trade for Hamels or Price.

Quote from: Eli on April 14, 2015, 11:12:50 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:51:08 AM
That's because you don't believe in C.J. Edwards.

He's going to be the best.

The best reliever? Quite possibly. Which would be a fantastic thing.

Quote from: ChuckD on April 14, 2015, 11:14:48 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 14, 2015, 11:12:50 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:51:08 AM
That's because you don't believe in C.J. Edwards.

He's going to be the best.

The best reliever? Quite possibly. Which would be a fantastic thing.

Why don't they just make the entire plane rotation out of black boxes bullpen?

Quote from: InternetApex on April 14, 2015, 10:42:38 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:26:48 AM

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Quote from: Fork on April 14, 2015, 07:38:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible. 

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 14, 2015, 01:17:56 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on April 14, 2015, 10:42:38 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:26:48 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 14, 2015, 07:41:05 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 14, 2015, 07:38:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

Quote from: InternetApex on April 14, 2015, 01:25:11 PM

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Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 10:26:48 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 14, 2015, 07:41:05 AM

Quote from: Fork on April 14, 2015, 07:38:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

Quote from: InternetApex on April 14, 2015, 01:25:11 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 14, 2015, 01:17:56 PM

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Quote from: Fork on April 14, 2015, 07:38:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

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Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

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Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

It's true. But again, we don't know what went down. I refuse to believe Beane didn't inquire about Price. Maybe it was Tampa that fucked that up.

Quote from: CT III on April 14, 2015, 01:40:30 PM

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Quote from: Fork on April 14, 2015, 07:38:36 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

It's true. But again, we don't know what went down. I refuse to believe Beane didn't inquire about Price. Maybe it was Tampa that fucked that up.

We get it Pex, you love Billy Beane.

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Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

It's true. But again, we don't know what went down. I refuse to believe Beane didn't inquire about Price. Maybe it was Tampa that fucked that up.

We get it Pex, you love Billy Beane.

Thank God someone (other than me) said this.

There's a lot of history here too, not just today.

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Quote from: PenFoe on April 14, 2015, 01:43:46 PM

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Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

It's true. But again, we don't know what went down. I refuse to believe Beane didn't inquire about Price. Maybe it was Tampa that fucked that up.

We get it Pex, you love Billy Beane.

Thank God someone (other than me) said this.

There's a lot of history here too, not just today.

What's not to love?

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What's not to love?

Powdered Toast Man likes this.

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What's not to love?

Powdered Toast Man likes this.

You guys are clearly mistaking Billy Beane for Brad Pitt.

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Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

It's true. But again, we don't know what went down. I refuse to believe Beane didn't inquire about Price. Maybe it was Tampa that fucked that up.

We get it Pex, you love Billy Beane.

Thank God someone (other than me) said this.

There's a lot of history here too, not just today.

What's not to love?

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Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

It's true. But again, we don't know what went down. I refuse to believe Beane didn't inquire about Price. Maybe it was Tampa that fucked that up.

We get it Pex, you love Billy Beane.

Thank God someone (other than me) said this.

There's a lot of history here too, not just today.

What's not to love?

I dunno, I think you have to be pretty arrogant to cast Brad Pitt as yourself in a movie you're making about your life.

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Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

It's true. But again, we don't know what went down. I refuse to believe Beane didn't inquire about Price. Maybe it was Tampa that fucked that up.

We get it Pex, you love Billy Beane.

Thank God someone (other than me) said this.

There's a lot of history here too, not just today.

What's not to love?

I dunno, I think you have to be pretty arrogant to cast Brad Pitt as yourself in a movie you're making about your life.

What if Norm MacDonald just wasn't available?

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Quote from: SKO on April 13, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I would like to reiterate that this bullpen is the tits.

Neil Ramirez is the greatest ginger Mexican this side of Louis CK.

Theo has been really good at fleecing other GM's in trades. The Rangers got hosed.

The Rangers, A's, Orioles and Braves (meaning Cartini for Bonerface and Russell, TBD on Arodys/La Stella) trades just look completely embarrassing for the other teams at this point.

I hope over time that Cashner for Rizzo goes that way as well - certainly seems possible.  

They look embarrassing through the lens of hindsight in which none of those teams won the World Series. But deadline deals like most of those were are meant to get a team into the postseason with a healthy roster able to compete for a title. It's all a crapshoot at that point. Did they overpay for that chance? That's a different question and we'd have to look at who else was available to meet their needs and at what price. It's a good problem to have, I'd say. None of those trades crippled the franchises that made them.

The A's made some bold moves that ended up with them having their top prospects AND most of the guys the dealt for (Lester and Hammel) ending up on the Cubs.

But they flipped Snork for several players and gutted the team otherwise. I guess we'll never know what they could have gotten in exchange for Russell besides their return from the Cubs. If the argument is that Theo made a fantastic deal for his club, I don't see how a sane person could argue. But the A's gave themselves a chance and it just didn't work out. Someday, the Cubs will probably have to make a decision like that too and some team will end up with one of the guys in our FUTURESPLOOGE thread and we'll be too drunk to care with all the champagne in our guts, mouths, eyes and pubes.

I don't criticize Billy Beane for doing what he had to try and take advantage of a championship window, which are always smaller in Oakland given their payroll restraints, but when David Price ended up getting traded a few weeks later for a much smaller return that definitely hurt.

It's true. But again, we don't know what went down. I refuse to believe Beane didn't inquire about Price. Maybe it was Tampa that fucked that up.

We get it Pex, you love Billy Beane.

Thank God someone (other than me) said this.

There's a lot of history here too, not just today.

What's not to love?

I dunno, I think you have to be pretty arrogant to cast Brad Pitt as yourself in a movie you're making about your life.

Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
Back-to-back comebacks wins (being down 3-0 three times over the two games), and then damn near pulling off a third in a row off a guy who throws 100 mph every pitch.

I think I'm already really, really liking this team.

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Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
Back-to-back comebacks wins (being down 3-0 three times over the two games), and then damn near pulling off a third in a row off a guy who throws 100 mph every pitch.

I think I'm already really, really liking this team.

I think they're worth watching every day and are only going to get more watchable as the year goes on and Bryant and Russell/Baez come up and Rizzo starts launching dongblasts. After the last five years I'll take it for now, time to worry about standings and playoffs later. Just give me a reason to look forward to baseball every day and I'm good for now.

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Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
Back-to-back comebacks wins (being down 3-0 three times over the two games), and then damn near pulling off a third in a row off a guy who throws 100 mph every pitch.

I think I'm already really, really liking this team.

I think they're worth watching every day and are only going to get more watchable as the year goes on and Bryant and Russell/Baez come up and Rizzo starts launching dongblasts. After the last five years I'll take it for now, time to worry about standings and playoffs later. Just give me a reason to look forward to baseball every day and I'm good for now.

Good point about Rizzo.  The Cubs had a nice first week + while getting very little from their #1 offensive player and #1 pitcher.

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Quote from: SKO on April 15, 2015, 09:12:11 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
Back-to-back comebacks wins (being down 3-0 three times over the two games), and then damn near pulling off a third in a row off a guy who throws 100 mph every pitch.

I think I'm already really, really liking this team.

I think they're worth watching every day and are only going to get more watchable as the year goes on and Bryant and Russell/Baez come up and Rizzo starts launching dongblasts. After the last five years I'll take it for now, time to worry about standings and playoffs later. Just give me a reason to look forward to baseball every day and I'm good for now.

Good point about Rizzo.  The Cubs had a nice first week + while getting very little from their #1 offensive player and #1 pitcher.

Once Bryant's behind him in the order, I'm guessing he'll get plunked a bit less.

Quote from: SKO on April 15, 2015, 10:35:53 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 15, 2015, 10:33:01 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2015, 09:22:17 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 15, 2015, 09:12:11 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
Back-to-back comebacks wins (being down 3-0 three times over the two games), and then damn near pulling off a third in a row off a guy who throws 100 mph every pitch.

I think I'm already really, really liking this team.

I think they're worth watching every day and are only going to get more watchable as the year goes on and Bryant and Russell/Baez come up and Rizzo starts launching dongblasts. After the last five years I'll take it for now, time to worry about standings and playoffs later. Just give me a reason to look forward to baseball every day and I'm good for now.

Good point about Rizzo.  The Cubs had a nice first week + while getting very little from their #1 offensive player and #1 pitcher.

Once Bryant's behind him in the order, I'm guessing he'll get plunked a bit less.

....because pitchers are trying to hit him now?

Quote from: InternetApex on April 15, 2015, 09:34:03 PM
Neil Ramirez leaves after three pitches due to injury.

First chink in the armor, Ted!

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
The Cubs are currently 8th (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=0,ts&players=0) in batting WAR (and 4th in walk percentage, after finishing 23rd in that measure last year). They're 2nd (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in pitching WAR. Rizzo hasn't really hit for power yet, 2nd base has been a black hole of suck thus far, Lester has struggled, and two key cogs in the bullpen have been injured. What I'm trying to say gang is that this team is good and improvements from the aforementioned dudes should be able to compensate for regression elsewhere on the roster. I'm also asking that you kindly take your "small sample size" and "if you love WAR so much why don't you point out that they're almost dead last (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in defensive WAR" arguments and store them in your butt for now.

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:39:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
The Cubs are currently 8th (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=0,ts&players=0) in batting WAR (and 4th in walk percentage, after finishing 23rd in that measure last year). They're 2nd (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in pitching WAR. Rizzo hasn't really hit for power yet, 2nd base has been a black hole of suck thus far, Lester has struggled, and two key cogs in the bullpen have been injured. What I'm trying to say gang is that this team is good and improvements from the aforementioned dudes should be able to compensate for regression elsewhere on the roster. I'm also asking that you kindly take your "small sample size" and "if you love WAR so much why don't you point out that they're almost dead last (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in defensive WAR" arguments and store them in your butt for now.

I don't think they're ever going to be a terribly stout defensive team but they should score enough to compensate.

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:49:47 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:39:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
The Cubs are currently 8th (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=0,ts&players=0) in batting WAR (and 4th in walk percentage, after finishing 23rd in that measure last year). They're 2nd (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in pitching WAR. Rizzo hasn't really hit for power yet, 2nd base has been a black hole of suck thus far, Lester has struggled, and two key cogs in the bullpen have been injured. What I'm trying to say gang is that this team is good and improvements from the aforementioned dudes should be able to compensate for regression elsewhere on the roster. I'm also asking that you kindly take your "small sample size" and "if you love WAR so much why don't you point out that they're almost dead last (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in defensive WAR" arguments and store them in your butt for now.

I don't think they're ever going to be a terribly stout defensive team but they should score enough to compensate.

Definitely true as currently constituted. But just for shits & giggles, a Rizzo-Baez-Castro-Russell defensive IF would be solid, and Bryant definitely has the tools to be a pretty good defensive LF. I won't mention the possibility of Almora's plus glove in CF as I don't want Eli to spontaneously combust.

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:52:38 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:49:47 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:39:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
The Cubs are currently 8th (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=0,ts&players=0) in batting WAR (and 4th in walk percentage, after finishing 23rd in that measure last year). They're 2nd (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in pitching WAR. Rizzo hasn't really hit for power yet, 2nd base has been a black hole of suck thus far, Lester has struggled, and two key cogs in the bullpen have been injured. What I'm trying to say gang is that this team is good and improvements from the aforementioned dudes should be able to compensate for regression elsewhere on the roster. I'm also asking that you kindly take your "small sample size" and "if you love WAR so much why don't you point out that they're almost dead last (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in defensive WAR" arguments and store them in your butt for now.

I don't think they're ever going to be a terribly stout defensive team but they should score enough to compensate.

Definitely true as currently constituted. But just for shits & giggles, a Rizzo-Baez-Castro-Russell defensive IF would be solid, and Bryant definitely has the tools to be a pretty good defensive LF. I won't mention the possibility of Almora's plus glove in CF as I don't want Eli to spontaneously combust.

The Almora OPS-O-Meter is now up to .705 so, hey, you never know*







*- Pretty sure I do know, and that he sucks.

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 02:58:51 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:52:38 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:49:47 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:39:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
The Cubs are currently 8th (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=0,ts&players=0) in batting WAR (and 4th in walk percentage, after finishing 23rd in that measure last year). They're 2nd (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in pitching WAR. Rizzo hasn't really hit for power yet, 2nd base has been a black hole of suck thus far, Lester has struggled, and two key cogs in the bullpen have been injured. What I'm trying to say gang is that this team is good and improvements from the aforementioned dudes should be able to compensate for regression elsewhere on the roster. I'm also asking that you kindly take your "small sample size" and "if you love WAR so much why don't you point out that they're almost dead last (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in defensive WAR" arguments and store them in your butt for now.

I don't think they're ever going to be a terribly stout defensive team but they should score enough to compensate.

Definitely true as currently constituted. But just for shits & giggles, a Rizzo-Baez-Castro-Russell defensive IF would be solid, and Bryant definitely has the tools to be a pretty good defensive LF. I won't mention the possibility of Almora's plus glove in CF as I don't want Eli to spontaneously combust.

The Almora OPS-O-Meter is now up to .705 so, hey, you never know*







*- Pretty sure I do know, and that he sucks.

This is either a bit, or you're trying to force your own meme on us, or you really believe this.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's some combination of #1 and #2.

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
The Cubs are currently 8th (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=0,ts&players=0) in batting WAR (and 4th in walk percentage, after finishing 23rd in that measure last year). They're 2nd (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in pitching WAR. Rizzo hasn't really hit for power yet, 2nd base has been a black hole of suck thus far, Lester has struggled, and two key cogs in the bullpen have been injured. What I'm trying to say gang is that this team is good and improvements from the aforementioned dudes should be able to compensate for regression elsewhere on the roster. I'm also asking that you kindly take your "small sample size" and "if you love WAR so much why don't you point out that they're almost dead last (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in defensive WAR" arguments and store them in your butt for now.

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 02:58:51 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:52:38 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:49:47 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:39:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
The Cubs are currently 8th (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=0,ts&players=0) in batting WAR (and 4th in walk percentage, after finishing 23rd in that measure last year). They're 2nd (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in pitching WAR. Rizzo hasn't really hit for power yet, 2nd base has been a black hole of suck thus far, Lester has struggled, and two key cogs in the bullpen have been injured. What I'm trying to say gang is that this team is good and improvements from the aforementioned dudes should be able to compensate for regression elsewhere on the roster. I'm also asking that you kindly take your "small sample size" and "if you love WAR so much why don't you point out that they're almost dead last (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in defensive WAR" arguments and store them in your butt for now.

I don't think they're ever going to be a terribly stout defensive team but they should score enough to compensate.

Definitely true as currently constituted. But just for shits & giggles, a Rizzo-Baez-Castro-Russell defensive IF would be solid, and Bryant definitely has the tools to be a pretty good defensive LF. I won't mention the possibility of Almora's plus glove in CF as I don't want Eli to spontaneously combust.

The Almora OPS-O-Meter is now up to .705 so, hey, you never know*







*- Pretty sure I do know, and that he sucks.

This is either a bit, or you're trying to force your own meme on us, or you really believe this.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's some combination of #1 and #2.

Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 03:15:23 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 02:58:51 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:52:38 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:49:47 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 02:39:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 21, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
The Cubs are currently 8th (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=0,ts&players=0) in batting WAR (and 4th in walk percentage, after finishing 23rd in that measure last year). They're 2nd (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in pitching WAR. Rizzo hasn't really hit for power yet, 2nd base has been a black hole of suck thus far, Lester has struggled, and two key cogs in the bullpen have been injured. What I'm trying to say gang is that this team is good and improvements from the aforementioned dudes should be able to compensate for regression elsewhere on the roster. I'm also asking that you kindly take your "small sample size" and "if you love WAR so much why don't you point out that they're almost dead last (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0) in defensive WAR" arguments and store them in your butt for now.

I don't think they're ever going to be a terribly stout defensive team but they should score enough to compensate.

Definitely true as currently constituted. But just for shits & giggles, a Rizzo-Baez-Castro-Russell defensive IF would be solid, and Bryant definitely has the tools to be a pretty good defensive LF. I won't mention the possibility of Almora's plus glove in CF as I don't want Eli to spontaneously combust.

The Almora OPS-O-Meter is now up to .705 so, hey, you never know*







*- Pretty sure I do know, and that he sucks.

This is either a bit, or you're trying to force your own meme on us, or you really believe this.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's some combination of #1 and #2.

He doesn't suck. But it's time for people to stop lumping him in with the actual elite prospects in the system. He has a chance to be a nice, cost-controlled 2-3 WAR player for a few years, mostly from his defense and that's not bad (though maybe not what you ideally want from a top-10 draft choice). Maybe people still have a special attachment to him because he was this regime's first-ever draft pick?

This sums up my feelings about Albert Almora and I'll do my best to not continue my "bit" any further since I'm sure everyone is sick of it.

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Is there a decent player comp out there that would make me feel better about him?

Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 03:29:01 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Is there a decent player comp out there that would make me feel better about him?

I'll throw out something like Aaron Rowand. Up to you if that makes you feel better or worse.

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:31:26 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 03:29:01 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Is there a decent player comp out there that would make me feel better about him?

I'll throw out something like Aaron Rowand. Up to you if that makes you feel better or worse.

Who wouldn't take the living embodiment of 2005 Sox Grinderball? So you're saying Almora has TWTW?

Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 03:29:01 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Is there a decent player comp out there that would make me feel better about him?

I'll throw out something like Aaron Rowand. Up to you if that makes you feel better or worse.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 21, 2015, 03:32:48 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2015, 03:29:01 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Is there a decent player comp out there that would make me feel better about him?

I'll throw out something like Aaron Rowand. Up to you if that makes you feel better or worse.

80-grade "running into walls" tools don't grow on trees.

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
On this team I would take Aaron Rowand.

On this team I would take a powerless .270/.330/.380 gold-glove centerfielder.

I'm not "lumping him in" with elite prospects, and I don't care that he was first round pick. But am optimistic that he will fit in nicely here, his skills begin accentuated while his deficiencies are rendered irrelevant by the production of the players around him.

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:46:10 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
On this team I would take Aaron Rowand.

On this team I would take a powerless .270/.330/.380 gold-glove centerfielder.

I'm not "lumping him in" with elite prospects, and I don't care that he was first round pick. But am optimistic that he will fit in nicely here, his skills begin accentuated while his deficiencies are rendered irrelevant by the production of the players around him.

So basically Darwin Barney in CF? I wonder why I can't seem to get excited about that...

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:50:00 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:46:10 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
On this team I would take Aaron Rowand.

On this team I would take a powerless .270/.330/.380 gold-glove centerfielder.

I'm not "lumping him in" with elite prospects, and I don't care that he was first round pick. But am optimistic that he will fit in nicely here, his skills begin accentuated while his deficiencies are rendered irrelevant by the production of the players around him.

So basically Darwin Barney in CF? I wonder why I can't seem to get excited about that...

Barney was a career .245/.293/.336.

I think even my modest projection's at least a full grade higher than that.

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:52:02 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:50:00 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:46:10 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
On this team I would take Aaron Rowand.

On this team I would take a powerless .270/.330/.380 gold-glove centerfielder.

I'm not "lumping him in" with elite prospects, and I don't care that he was first round pick. But am optimistic that he will fit in nicely here, his skills begin accentuated while his deficiencies are rendered irrelevant by the production of the players around him.

So basically Darwin Barney in CF? I wonder why I can't seem to get excited about that...

Barney was a career .245/.293/.336.

I think even my modest projection's at least a full grade higher than that.

It's also almost 100 points higher, OPS-wise, than what Almora's done in 50 games at AA so far so pardon me for being wary without it having to be a meme.

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:56:38 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:52:02 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:50:00 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:46:10 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
On this team I would take Aaron Rowand.

On this team I would take a powerless .270/.330/.380 gold-glove centerfielder.

I'm not "lumping him in" with elite prospects, and I don't care that he was first round pick. But am optimistic that he will fit in nicely here, his skills begin accentuated while his deficiencies are rendered irrelevant by the production of the players around him.

So basically Darwin Barney in CF? I wonder why I can't seem to get excited about that...

Barney was a career .245/.293/.336.

I think even my modest projection's at least a full grade higher than that.

It's also almost 100 points higher, OPS-wise, than what Almora's done in 50 games at AA so far so pardon me for being wary without it having to be a meme.

Okay so I'm optimistic...but (turns toward Eli)  even I wouldn't pretend that those best-case numbers are elite.

Anyway, they say the kid's got a good head on his shoulders.  I'll hang my hat on him figuring it out and driving up those figures.  Up yours, SKO.  Up.  Yours.

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 04:02:37 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:56:38 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:52:02 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:50:00 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:46:10 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
On this team I would take Aaron Rowand.

On this team I would take a powerless .270/.330/.380 gold-glove centerfielder.

I'm not "lumping him in" with elite prospects, and I don't care that he was first round pick. But am optimistic that he will fit in nicely here, his skills begin accentuated while his deficiencies are rendered irrelevant by the production of the players around him.

So basically Darwin Barney in CF? I wonder why I can't seem to get excited about that...

Barney was a career .245/.293/.336.

I think even my modest projection's at least a full grade higher than that.

It's also almost 100 points higher, OPS-wise, than what Almora's done in 50 games at AA so far so pardon me for being wary without it having to be a meme.

Okay so I'm optimistic...but (turns toward Eli)  even I wouldn't pretend that those best-case numbers are elite.

Anyway, they say the kid's got a good head on his shoulders.  I'll hang my hat on him figuring it out and driving up those figures.  Up yours, SKO.  Up.  Yours.

I predict he's Sam Fuld, but he will not be beloved because his awesome catch in the ivy as a late inning defensive replacement won't be white enough.

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:52:02 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:50:00 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2015, 03:46:10 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 21, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
On this team I would take Aaron Rowand.

On this team I would take a powerless .270/.330/.380 gold-glove centerfielder.

I'm not "lumping him in" with elite prospects, and I don't care that he was first round pick. But am optimistic that he will fit in nicely here, his skills begin accentuated while his deficiencies are rendered irrelevant by the production of the players around him.

So basically Darwin Barney in CF? I wonder why I can't seem to get excited about that...

Barney was a career .245/.293/.336.

I think even my modest projection's at least a full grade higher than that.

It's also almost 100 points higher, OPS-wise, than what Almora's done in 50 games at AA so far so pardon me for being wary without it having to be a meme.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 21, 2015, 04:18:05 PM
And he turned 21 just 5 days ago.

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 21, 2015, 09:27:11 PM
This fucking team. I want to give everyone here a shirtless hug.

Except Oleg, who's probably covered with sweat and gravy.

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
DPD

Know the best bit about this?

OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
DPD

Know the best bit about this?

OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 08:26:52 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
DPD

Know the best bit about this?

OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

FUCK RAM

Quote from: Yeti on April 22, 2015, 08:40:16 AM

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Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

FUCK RAM

I hope David Ross retires today

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Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

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Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Quote from: InternetApex on April 22, 2015, 10:28:06 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

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Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Shitty pitchers on other teams.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:28:49 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 22, 2015, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:28:49 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 11:42:44 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 22, 2015, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:28:49 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
Last year Cubs were 0-79 when trailing in 9th. This year, through 8 games, Cubs have 4 wins in their last AB.

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 11:48:33 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
Last year Cubs were 0-79 when trailing in 9th. This year, through 8 games, Cubs have 4 wins in their last AB.

They didn't come back in the ninth ALL FUCKING YEAR?  That's actually pretty amazing.  Motherfuckers.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 11:52:56 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 11:48:33 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
Last year Cubs were 0-79 when trailing in 9th. This year, through 8 games, Cubs have 4 wins in their last AB.

They didn't come back in the ninth ALL FUCKING YEAR?  That's actually pretty amazing.  Motherfuckers.

That actually is kind of impressive.

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 11:53:53 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 11:52:56 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 11:48:33 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
Last year Cubs were 0-79 when trailing in 9th. This year, through 8 games, Cubs have 4 wins in their last AB.

They didn't come back in the ninth ALL FUCKING YEAR?  That's actually pretty amazing.  Motherfuckers.

That actually is kind of impressive.

They were given specific orders to NOT come back in the 9th, probably.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 11:47:43 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 11:42:44 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 22, 2015, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:28:49 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 09:51:41 AM

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 11:56:07 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 11:47:43 AM

Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 11:42:44 AM

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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:28:49 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to trade anybody--Castro, Baez, anybody good or potentially good-- right now and there's no need to trade anybody even if Baez comes back, because it seems the thinking is they'd just move Baez or Castro (or Russell I suppose...whatever) to third and Bryant to left.  The thinking then goes that they would then have to make a deal once Schwarber was ready to play LF (moving Bryant back to third and making a deal, again, whatever)...except if Schwarber can somehow actually catch they still wouldn't need to make a trade (not saying they shouldn't, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to).

I have to think Schwarber's going to catch a lot this year to see if he can make it next year at that position with the Cubs.  If he can actually catch--and catch competently-- that'd be amazing.

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 12:16:50 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 11:56:07 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 11:47:43 AM

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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:28:49 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to trade anybody--Castro, Baez, anybody good or potentially good-- right now and there's no need to trade anybody even if Baez comes back, because it seems the thinking is they'd just move Baez or Castro (or Russell I suppose...whatever) to third and Bryant to left.  The thinking then goes that they would then have to make a deal once Schwarber was ready to play LF (moving Bryant back to third and making a deal, again, whatever)...except if Schwarber can somehow actually catch they still wouldn't need to make a trade (not saying they shouldn't, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to).

I have to think Schwarber's going to catch a lot this year to see if he can make it next year at that position with the Cubs.  If he can actually catch--and catch competently-- that'd be amazing.

If he mashes at AA and (presumably) AAA this year, they can bring him up next spring and he can play LF on days when Montero catches. And he can improve his catching under the Godlike hand of Hank White.

Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 12:20:29 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 12:16:50 PM

Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 11:56:07 AM

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Quote from: PANK! on April 22, 2015, 11:42:44 AM

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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:28:49 AM

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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to trade anybody--Castro, Baez, anybody good or potentially good-- right now and there's no need to trade anybody even if Baez comes back, because it seems the thinking is they'd just move Baez or Castro (or Russell I suppose...whatever) to third and Bryant to left.  The thinking then goes that they would then have to make a deal once Schwarber was ready to play LF (moving Bryant back to third and making a deal, again, whatever)...except if Schwarber can somehow actually catch they still wouldn't need to make a trade (not saying they shouldn't, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to).

I have to think Schwarber's going to catch a lot this year to see if he can make it next year at that position with the Cubs.  If he can actually catch--and catch competently-- that'd be amazing.

If he mashes at AA and (presumably) AAA this year, they can bring him up next spring and he can play LF on days when Montero catches. And he can improve his catching under the Godlike hand of Hank White.

Okay but if he doesn't start the season as the catcher, but his bat demands he be in a big-league lineup, then somebody'll have to go.

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to trade anybody--Castro, Baez, anybody good or potentially good-- right now and there's no need to trade anybody even if Baez comes back, because it seems the thinking is they'd just move Baez or Castro (or Russell I suppose...whatever) to third and Bryant to left.  The thinking then goes that they would then have to make a deal once Schwarber was ready to play LF (moving Bryant back to third and making a deal, again, whatever)...except if Schwarber can somehow actually catch they still wouldn't need to make a trade (not saying they shouldn't, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to).

I have to think Schwarber's going to catch a lot this year to see if he can make it next year at that position with the Cubs.  If he can actually catch--and catch competently-- that'd be amazing.

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to trade anybody--Castro, Baez, anybody good or potentially good-- right now and there's no need to trade anybody even if Baez comes back, because it seems the thinking is they'd just move Baez or Castro (or Russell I suppose...whatever) to third and Bryant to left.  The thinking then goes that they would then have to make a deal once Schwarber was ready to play LF (moving Bryant back to third and making a deal, again, whatever)...except if Schwarber can somehow actually catch they still wouldn't need to make a trade (not saying they shouldn't, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to).

I have to think Schwarber's going to catch a lot this year to see if he can make it next year at that position with the Cubs.  If he can actually catch--and catch competently-- that'd be amazing.

I think that's how we've been thinking about it the whole time already.

Logically.

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Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 12:48:43 PM

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to trade anybody--Castro, Baez, anybody good or potentially good-- right now and there's no need to trade anybody even if Baez comes back, because it seems the thinking is they'd just move Baez or Castro (or Russell I suppose...whatever) to third and Bryant to left.  The thinking then goes that they would then have to make a deal once Schwarber was ready to play LF (moving Bryant back to third and making a deal, again, whatever)...except if Schwarber can somehow actually catch they still wouldn't need to make a trade (not saying they shouldn't, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to).

I have to think Schwarber's going to catch a lot this year to see if he can make it next year at that position with the Cubs.  If he can actually catch--and catch competently-- that'd be amazing.

I think that's how we've been thinking about it the whole time already.

Logically.

Yeah I certainly don't want them to start offering up Baez now or anything. Just saying that if Schwarber can't stick at catcher and left field is the only place to put him, Baez is the one most likely to be traded in that event, because I don't see them moving on from Russell or Castro (No, Chuck) and obviously not Bryant, and Schwarber not only is arguably one of the best pure hitters of the group, he's the only guy who bats lefty.

So if one of them does go, I think it's Javy, but that decision can definitely wait till 2016.

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Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

ROCK. SHOULDERS.

And hopefully Baez gets things figured out.

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DPD

Know the best bit about this?

OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to trade anybody--Castro, Baez, anybody good or potentially good-- right now and there's no need to trade anybody even if Baez comes back, because it seems the thinking is they'd just move Baez or Castro (or Russell I suppose...whatever) to third and Bryant to left.  The thinking then goes that they would then have to make a deal once Schwarber was ready to play LF (moving Bryant back to third and making a deal, again, whatever)...except if Schwarber can somehow actually catch they still wouldn't need to make a trade (not saying they shouldn't, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to).

I have to think Schwarber's going to catch a lot this year to see if he can make it next year at that position with the Cubs.  If he can actually catch--and catch competently-- that'd be amazing.

I think that's how we've been thinking about it the whole time already.

Logically.

Yeah I certainly don't want them to start offering up Baez now or anything. Just saying that if Schwarber can't stick at catcher and left field is the only place to put him, Baez is the one most likely to be traded in that event, because I don't see them moving on from Russell or Castro (No, Chuck) and obviously not Bryant, and Schwarber not only is arguably one of the best pure hitters of the group, he's the only guy who bats lefty.

So if one of them does go, I think it's Javy, but that decision can definitely wait till 2016.

The Cubs can afford to slow their roll on Javy now that Russell's up...hell, they might even ask him to find out what the world looks like from center field.

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DPD

Know the best bit about this?

OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to blah blah blah

I think that's how we've been thinking about it the whole time already.

Logically.

Yeah I certainly don't want them to blah blah blah...

So if one of them does go, I think it's Javy, but that decision can definitely wait till 2016.

The Cubs can afford to slow their roll on Javy now that Russell's up...hell, they might even ask him to find out what the world looks like from center field.

I'd actually like to see this.  

One of these guys needs to start eying CF, since Almora will probably never have the bat and McKinney will probably never have the glove.  

I'd be cool if it was Gleybar, as I've mentioned a couple times, but Baez certainly seems athletic enough.

Though, I have a feeling that the list of prospects who switched positions twice in the minors and went on to major league success is pretty short.  

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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

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Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
DPD

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OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to blah blah blah

I think that's how we've been thinking about it the whole time already.

Logically.

Yeah I certainly don't want them to blah blah blah...

So if one of them does go, I think it's Javy, but that decision can definitely wait till 2016.

The Cubs can afford to slow their roll on Javy now that Russell's up...hell, they might even ask him to find out what the world looks like from center field.

I'd actually like to see this.  

One of these guys needs to start eying CF, since Almora will probably never have the bat and McKinney will probably never have the glove.  

I'd be cool if it was Gleybar, as I've mentioned a couple times, but Baez certainly seems athletic enough.

Though, I have a feeling that the list of prospects who switched positions twice in the minors and went on to major league success is pretty short.  

At 6'0", 190lb, he might be a little too... er... "athletic" for centre field.  Fowler weighs about the same and is five inches taller.

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:42:53 PM
There's no way Baez could play center. A corner? Sure. But center field is hard. I can't think of many successful transitions from the infield to center besides guys who had otherwordly speed to compensate for having never played there (guys like Billy Hamilton). Maybe Craig Biggio? But that only lasted a year and he was still below average.

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:42:53 PM
There's no way Baez could play center. A corner? Sure. But center field is hard. I can't think of many successful transitions from the infield to center besides guys who had otherwordly speed to compensate for having never played there (guys like Billy Hamilton). Maybe Craig Biggio? But that only lasted a year and he was still below average.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 01:16:05 PM
Though, I have a feeling that the list of prospects who switched positions twice in the minors and went on to major league success is pretty short.

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:42:53 PM
There's no way Baez could play center. A corner? Sure. But center field is hard. I can't think of many successful transitions from the infield to center besides guys who had otherwordly speed to compensate for having never played there (guys like Billy Hamilton). Maybe Craig Biggio? But that only lasted a year and he was still below average.

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 01:48:13 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:42:53 PM
There's no way Baez could play center. A corner? Sure. But center field is hard. I can't think of many successful transitions from the infield to center besides guys who had otherwordly speed to compensate for having never played there (guys like Billy Hamilton). Maybe Craig Biggio? But that only lasted a year and he was still below average.

When you play half your games in Wrigley Field, center field can be pretty forgiving.

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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 10:21:35 AM

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DPD

Know the best bit about this?

OPSes to date:

Bryant 1.194
Castillo .982
Soler .894
Rizzo .870
Castro .856
Coghlan .764
Ross .740 (FYSKO!)
Fowler .728
Montero .711

With the possible exceptions of Bryant and Castillo, nobody there is doing anything that they can't reasonably be expected to maintain, and there might even be room for improvement for a couple of guys.  If Russell can out-hit what Alcantara and Herrera (.303 and .415 respectively) have contributed, so much the better.

In short, there is absolutely no reason for the 2015 Cubs not to keep on keepin' on.  And no reason for my chub ever to diminish.

If David Ross finishes the season with an OPS of .740 or better I will shave Apex's ass and send him running through the park.

I think my point was more that, in his 100 ABs this year, there is a limited amount of damage that Ross can do to the Cubs bandwagon.

And as more guys show up, those OPS numbers will get even gaudier.

.....who are you still expecting, exactly?

Nobody this year, I was thinking more long term, Schwarber for sure next year.

You really expecting Schwarber next season? That seems rushed right? Thought it was 2017 for him as a catcher. It's probably next May or June if we're just talking about his bat.

Pretty sure they're simply not going to be able to justify keeping that bat on the farm a year from now, provided he keeps this up*.

*I have no idea what kind of a start he's off to at AA.

.261/.485/.478/.963   

But he played some pretty poor catcher yesterday.  

Couple of passed balls and 3 stolen bases (if you want to put those on him.)

I think if you think it through logically, there's no need to blah blah blah

I think that's how we've been thinking about it the whole time already.

Logically.

Yeah I certainly don't want them to blah blah blah...

So if one of them does go, I think it's Javy, but that decision can definitely wait till 2016.

The Cubs can afford to slow their roll on Javy now that Russell's up...hell, they might even ask him to find out what the world looks like from center field.

I'd actually like to see this.  

One of these guys needs to start eying CF, since Almora will probably never have the bat and McKinney will probably never have the glove.  

I'd be cool if it was Gleybar, as I've mentioned a couple times, but Baez certainly seems athletic enough.

Though, I have a feeling that the list of prospects who switched positions twice in the minors and went on to major league success is pretty short.  

At 6'0", 190lb, he might be a little too... er... "athletic" for centre field.  Fowler weighs about the same and is five inches taller.

Way too athletic (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mantlmi01.shtml).

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:49:13 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 01:48:13 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:42:53 PM
There's no way Baez could play center. A corner? Sure. But center field is hard. I can't think of many successful transitions from the infield to center besides guys who had otherwordly speed to compensate for having never played there (guys like Billy Hamilton). Maybe Craig Biggio? But that only lasted a year and he was still below average.

When you play half your games in Wrigley Field, center field can be pretty forgiving.

That doesn't mean Baez would be remotely competent there.

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 01:51:37 PM
Baez is not going to become a CF. Stop it. It's wishful thinking at a level that borders on magical thinking.

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 01:51:37 PM
Baez is not going to become a CF. Stop it. It's wishful thinking at a level that borders on magical thinking.

Quote from: InternetApex on April 22, 2015, 01:53:33 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 01:51:37 PM
Baez is not going to become a CF. Stop it. It's wishful thinking at a level that borders on magical thinking.

It's NSBB like. I don't really know what they were like because I never went there. But if you guys want to move this discussion over to that messageboard, that'd be great.

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
Comparing Baez's BMI to Mike Trout's BMI in an attempt to prove Baez could handle center field is something I'm going to have to journal about tonight so I can fully process it.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 01:58:45 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
Comparing Baez's BMI to Mike Trout's BMI in an attempt to prove Baez could handle center field is something I'm going to have to journal about tonight so I can fully process it.

This is in direct response to Tonk's accusation that Baez is too fat to play CF. 

I have no idea if he can actually play CF, I'm just saying he's not too fat to play CF.

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 02:01:46 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 01:58:45 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
Comparing Baez's BMI to Mike Trout's BMI in an attempt to prove Baez could handle center field is something I'm going to have to journal about tonight so I can fully process it.

This is in direct response to Tonk's accusation that Baez is too fat to play CF. 

I have no idea if he can actually play CF, I'm just saying he's not too fat to play CF.

BMI is for normal people who post on message boards with chicken-wingz-stained fingers. It's doesn't work for elite athletes.

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
BMI is a tragically flawed metric for anything other than ballpark guesses about whether someone should cut down on the number of Oreo sleeves they eat per day.

Quote from: Tony on April 22, 2015, 02:08:12 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
BMI is a tragically flawed metric for anything other than ballpark guesses about whether someone should cut down on the number of Oreo sleeves they eat per day.

How many is too many?

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 02:08:47 PM

Quote from: Tony on April 22, 2015, 02:08:12 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
BMI is a tragically flawed metric for anything other than ballpark guesses about whether someone should cut down on the number of Oreo sleeves they eat per day.

How many is too many?

Asking for a friend, Tony?

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 02:05:16 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 02:01:46 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on April 22, 2015, 01:58:45 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
Comparing Baez's BMI to Mike Trout's BMI in an attempt to prove Baez could handle center field is something I'm going to have to journal about tonight so I can fully process it.

This is in direct response to Tonk's accusation that Baez is too fat to play CF. 

I have no idea if he can actually play CF, I'm just saying he's not too fat to play CF.

BMI is for normal people who post on message boards with chicken-wingz-stained fingers. It's doesn't work for elite athletes.

Many, many times this.

To sum up: Baez can avoid salad at SS if he likes.  If he wants to play CF he's going to have to take a pilates class or two.

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM

Where the fuck is Chuck with his Javier Baez/Christina Hendricks comparison?

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:15:55 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM

Where the fuck is Chuck with his Javier Baez/Christina Hendricks comparison?

He's too busy trading Castro for a bag of magic beans.

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 02:22:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:15:55 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM

Where the fuck is Chuck with his Javier Baez/Christina Hendricks comparison?

He's too busy trading Castro for a bag of magic beans.

But not until next week.

Quote from: Eli on April 22, 2015, 02:22:37 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:15:55 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM

Where the fuck is Chuck with his Javier Baez/Christina Hendricks comparison?

He's too busy trading Castro for a bag of magic beans.

But not until next week.

Quote from: ChuckD on April 22, 2015, 02:41:05 PM
DPD: Top 15 Cubs.

(http://i.imgur.com/r2bi8M8.png)

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:42:03 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on April 22, 2015, 02:41:05 PM
DPD: Top 15 Cubs.

(http://i.imgur.com/r2bi8M8.png)

Come on. There's no way Jumbo Brown is a real person.

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:15:55 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM

Where the fuck is Chuck with his Javier Baez/Christina Hendricks comparison?

He's too busy trading Castro for a bag of magic beans.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 22, 2015, 03:21:42 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:15:55 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM

Where the fuck is Chuck with his Javier Baez/Christina Hendricks comparison?

He's too busy trading Castro for a bag of magic beans.

I was all set to make that deal.

Then Baez ate the beans.

Quote from: Tonker on April 22, 2015, 03:25:44 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 22, 2015, 03:21:42 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:15:55 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM

Where the fuck is Chuck with his Javier Baez/Christina Hendricks comparison?

He's too busy trading Castro for a bag of magic beans.

I was all set to make that deal.

Then Baez ate the beans.

BAEZATEZOBEANZ

Quote from: ChuckD on April 22, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
Top 10 BMI's of all time per the Lahman database. Take them for what they're worth.

(http://i.imgur.com/T8oprYG.png)

Also of note, Johnny Evers was 5'9" 125 lbs for a BMI of 18.5 which is second lowest behind Candy Cummings (same height as Evers, but 5 pounds lighter) at 17.7.

Quote from: InternetApex on April 22, 2015, 03:43:30 PM
I completely forgot that Carlos Silva pitched for the Cubs.

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:42:03 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on April 22, 2015, 02:41:05 PM
DPD: Top 15 Cubs.

(http://i.imgur.com/r2bi8M8.png)

Come on. There's no way Jumbo Brown is a real person.

Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2015, 03:51:59 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 02:42:03 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on April 22, 2015, 02:41:05 PM
DPD: Top 15 Cubs.

(http://i.imgur.com/r2bi8M8.png)

Come on. There's no way Jumbo Brown is a real person.

I also call bullshit that El Pulpo didn't make the list. He belly bumped an umpire for christ's sake.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
Apropos of nothing else, any mention of Daryle Ward always reminds of Kerm's joke that he was a fat kangaroo that pulled Ronny Cedeno out of his pouch every time he got to first base and goddammit if that's not the best nickname any of us have ever given to a baseball player.

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 04:19:12 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
Apropos of nothing else, any mention of Daryle Ward always reminds of Kerm's joke that he was a fat kangaroo that pulled Ronny Cedeno out of his pouch every time he got to first base and goddammit if that's not the best nickname any of us have ever given to a baseball player.

I honestly have a problem of forgetting that half the nicknames for Cubs players I use are only known on this fringe messageboard. So I use names like Snork, Fat Kangaroo, and Pancakes around Normals, to my chagrin.

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 04:25:17 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 04:19:12 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 22, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
Apropos of nothing else, any mention of Daryle Ward always reminds of Kerm's joke that he was a fat kangaroo that pulled Ronny Cedeno out of his pouch every time he got to first base and goddammit if that's not the best nickname any of us have ever given to a baseball player.

I honestly have a problem of forgetting that half the nicknames for Cubs players I use are only known on this fringe messageboard. So I use names like Snork, Fat Kangaroo, and Pancakes around Normals, to my chagrin.

I just break those around me into using them. I know four people now who don't use this messageboard/the shoutbox and refer to Snork as Snork.

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 08:52:41 PM
Now Maddon is just trolling me with Bryant in Center, right?

Quote from: Yeti on April 22, 2015, 08:53:30 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 08:52:41 PM
Now Maddon is just trolling me with Bryant in Center, right?

Helluva play there!

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 08:58:27 PM

Quote from: Yeti on April 22, 2015, 08:53:30 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 22, 2015, 08:52:41 PM
Now Maddon is just trolling me with Bryant in Center, right?

Helluva play there!

LEAVE HIM THERE AND MOVE FATTY BAEZ TO THIRD.

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM

At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

I heard that, too. Also, Kris Bryant in center is a thing I don't hate.

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 08:39:02 AM
How much CF does Bryant need to play to be re-classified there for fantasy purposes and also so I can compare him favorably to Mike Trout.

Quote from: PANK! on April 23, 2015, 08:41:46 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 08:39:02 AM
How much CF does Bryant need to play to be re-classified there for fantasy purposes and also so I can compare him favorably to Mike Trout.

I assumed most leagues only require 1 game after the season has started to qualify so he'd be good.

Going into the season, it's usually 10 or 20 games from the previous year.

Quote from: PANK! on April 23, 2015, 08:35:03 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

I heard that, too. Also, Kris Bryant in center is a thing I don't hate.

Expect to see more of it.  Dexter surely won't play today so they'll start the day down a man out there.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

I heard that, too. Also, Kris Bryant in center is a thing I don't hate.

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:07:05 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

I heard that, too. Also, Kris Bryant in center is a thing I don't hate.

I get the sense that was more of an emergency late-inning thing rather than something they want to do frequently. He might spot start there today, but I imagine Szczur will be up soon and would fill that backup role if needed.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 09:10:20 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:07:05 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

I heard that, too. Also, Kris Bryant in center is a thing I don't hate.

I get the sense that was more of an emergency late-inning thing rather than something they want to do frequently. He might spot start there today, but I imagine Szczur will be up soon and would fill that backup role if needed.

Wait, are we assuming Fowler is going to the DL? Because I thought I heard he injured himself in the first inning then proceeded to steal a base then got lifted in the 5th. Removing him was precautionary. I'd imagine he doesn't play today and gets a break. Denorfia will start in CF, most likely. Right?

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 09:10:20 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:07:05 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

I heard that, too. Also, Kris Bryant in center is a thing I don't hate.

I get the sense that was more of an emergency late-inning thing rather than something they want to do frequently. He might spot start there today, but I imagine Szczur will be up soon and would fill that backup role if needed.

Wait, are we assuming Fowler is going to the DL? Because I thought I heard he injured himself in the first inning then proceeded to steal a base then got lifted in the 5th. Removing him was precautionary. I'd imagine he doesn't play today and gets a break. Denorfia will start in CF, most likely. Right?

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 09:10:20 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:07:05 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

I heard that, too. Also, Kris Bryant in center is a thing I don't hate.

I get the sense that was more of an emergency late-inning thing rather than something they want to do frequently. He might spot start there today, but I imagine Szczur will be up soon and would fill that backup role if needed.

Wait, are we assuming Fowler is going to the DL? Because I thought I heard he injured himself in the first inning then proceeded to steal a base then got lifted in the 5th. Removing him was precautionary. I'd imagine he doesn't play today and gets a break. Denorfia will start in CF, most likely. Right?

Quote from: R-V on April 23, 2015, 09:15:27 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 09:10:20 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:07:05 AM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 23, 2015, 08:14:06 AM
At the start of last night's game, Pat Hughes mentioned that it was the first time in the 5 years that Starlin Castro has been a Cub they were 3 games over .500.

I heard that, too. Also, Kris Bryant in center is a thing I don't hate.

I get the sense that was more of an emergency late-inning thing rather than something they want to do frequently. He might spot start there today, but I imagine Szczur will be up soon and would fill that backup role if needed.

Wait, are we assuming Fowler is going to the DL? Because I thought I heard he injured himself in the first inning then proceeded to steal a base then got lifted in the 5th. Removing him was precautionary. I'd imagine he doesn't play today and gets a break. Denorfia will start in CF, most likely. Right?

That's definitely the hope, but who knows. It looks like Szczur needs to stay in Iowa for 10 days, so he may not be available for callup until the Milwaukee series. So that could be 7 games or so that they're in a bit of a pickle in CF if Fowler needs to sit.

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
Holy shit Kris Bryant is starting in CF.

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
Holy shit Kris Bryant is starting in CF.

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
Holy shit Kris Bryant is starting in CF.

Quote from: PANK! on April 23, 2015, 09:17:39 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
Holy shit Kris Bryant is starting in CF.

BWAHAHAHAHA

Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
So, since Almora is a bust, we get this lineup:

1B: Rizzo
2B: Baez
3B: Castro
SS: Russell
LF: Schwarber
CF: Bryant
RF: Soler
C: Montero until Vic Caratini comes up

I didn't ever want to create the actual batting order because I was stumped on who'd be your leadoff hitter. Either Russell or Castro, I guess

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 23, 2015, 09:18:06 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
Holy shit Kris Bryant is starting in CF.

Line-up:
LF Denorfia
1B Rizzo
RF Soler
CF Bryant
SS Castro
C Castillo
2B Russell
P Hendricks
3B Herrera

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 09:34:02 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 23, 2015, 09:18:06 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
Holy shit Kris Bryant is starting in CF.

Line-up:
LF Denorfia
1B Rizzo
RF Soler
CF Bryant
SS Castro
C Castillo
2B Russell
P Hendricks
3B Herrera

I just realized that Denorfia IS in the lineup...in LF...

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:46:18 AM
It's a minor/temporary thing, but the entirety of bench today is David Ross, Miguel Montero and Chris Coghlan. That's ... gross.

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:47:39 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:46:18 AM
It's a minor/temporary thing, but the entirety of bench today is David Ross, Miguel Montero and Chris Coghlan. That's ... gross.

Mack Seizure would look nice on the bench instead of David Ross, but Ross is swell, so who cares?

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:47:39 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:46:18 AM
It's a minor/temporary thing, but the entirety of bench today is David Ross, Miguel Montero and Chris Coghlan. That's ... gross.

Mack Seizure would look nice on the bench instead of David Ross, but Ross is swell, so who cares?

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:46:18 AM
It's a minor/temporary thing, but the entirety of bench today is David Ross, Miguel Montero and Chris Coghlan. That's ... gross.

Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2015, 09:59:24 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 09:46:18 AM
It's a minor/temporary thing, but the entirety of bench today is David Ross, Miguel Montero and Chris Coghlan. That's ... gross.

FWIW, Jesse Rogers just said Fowler is available to pinch hit

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
I just love that it's game 15 and the Cubs have already had 978 instances where an extra bench spot would be REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, and there's still people contending "David Ross can't hurt the Cubs that much!"

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 10:50:18 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
I just love that it's game 15 and the Cubs have already had 978 instances where an extra bench spot would be REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, and there's still people contending "David Ross can't hurt the Cubs that much!"

FUCK it's silent in here.

Quote from: ChuckD on April 23, 2015, 01:14:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 10:50:18 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
I just love that it's game 15 and the Cubs have already had 978 instances where an extra bench spot would be REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, and there's still people contending "David Ross can't hurt the Cubs that much!"

FUCK it's silent in here.

People who deserve your anger for David Ross' presence on the active roster in descending order of relevance:

1. Jepstink
2a. Jon Lester
2b. Joe Maddon
3. David Ross

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2015, 01:14:46 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on April 23, 2015, 01:14:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 10:50:18 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
I just love that it's game 15 and the Cubs have already had 978 instances where an extra bench spot would be REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, and there's still people contending "David Ross can't hurt the Cubs that much!"

FUCK it's silent in here.

People who deserve your anger for David Ross' presence on the active roster in descending order of relevance:

1. Jepstink
2a. Jon Lester
2b. Joe Maddon
3. David Ross

THI

Quote from: Bort on April 23, 2015, 01:23:42 PM
Guys, when the fuck did we start not blaming players for being worthless sacks of shit? It's a disturbing trend, that leads to the acceptance of Gutless Fucking Assholery.

Quote from: ChuckD on April 23, 2015, 01:14:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 10:50:18 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
I just love that it's game 15 and the Cubs have already had 978 instances where an extra bench spot would be REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, and there's still people contending "David Ross can't hurt the Cubs that much!"

FUCK it's silent in here.

People who deserve your anger for David Ross' presence on the active roster in descending order of relevance:

1. Jepstink
2a. Jon Lester
2b. Joe Maddon
3. David Ross

Quote from: Tonker on April 23, 2015, 01:26:20 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 23, 2015, 01:23:42 PM
Guys, when the fuck did we start not blaming players for being worthless sacks of shit? It's a disturbing trend, that leads to the acceptance of Gutless Fucking Assholery.

This is the problem with Desipio being a closed shop.  We're all getting older, and milder, and there's no new, young blood to remind us of when we used to be fucking PUNK, man.

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 01:27:48 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on April 23, 2015, 01:14:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 10:50:18 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
I just love that it's game 15 and the Cubs have already had 978 instances where an extra bench spot would be REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, and there's still people contending "David Ross can't hurt the Cubs that much!"

FUCK it's silent in here.

People who deserve your anger for David Ross' presence on the active roster in descending order of relevance:

1. Jepstink
2a. Jon Lester
2b. Joe Maddon
3. David Ross

OK, so let's all be mad at Jepstink about this.

Quote from: Bort on April 23, 2015, 01:29:58 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 23, 2015, 01:27:48 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on April 23, 2015, 01:14:06 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 10:50:18 AM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
I just love that it's game 15 and the Cubs have already had 978 instances where an extra bench spot would be REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, and there's still people contending "David Ross can't hurt the Cubs that much!"

FUCK it's silent in here.

People who deserve your anger for David Ross' presence on the active roster in descending order of relevance:

1. Jepstink
2a. Jon Lester
2b. Joe Maddon
3. David Ross

OK, so let's all be mad at Jepstink about this.

I don't get how someone else deciding he should play somehow makes him immune from criticism on the field. He's being treated like the retarded kid that's allowed to get on the field for two minutes at the end of a blowout.

Quote from: Tonker on April 23, 2015, 01:26:20 PM

Quote from: Bort on April 23, 2015, 01:23:42 PM
Guys, when the fuck did we start not blaming players for being worthless sacks of shit? It's a disturbing trend, that leads to the acceptance of Gutless Fucking Assholery.

This is the problem with Desipio being a closed shop.  We're all getting older, and milder, and there's no new, young blood to remind us of when we used to be fucking PUNK, man.

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 01:35:58 PM
The 6th inning is a hellish nightmare from which this team cannot wake

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 01:35:58 PM
The 6th inning is a hellish nightmare from which this team cannot wake

Quote from: InternetApex on April 23, 2015, 05:29:43 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 23, 2015, 01:35:58 PM
The 6th inning is a hellish nightmare from which this team cannot wake

They've given up 11 sixth-inning runs in 15 games. Three times they've given up three in that frame. They've given up 57 runs total.

I don't know if that's bad. It seems bad.

QuoteThe Mets have used 13 pitchers this season. Just seven of those pitchers have walked more than one batter. I mentioned that the league K/UIBB was 2.9; the Mets' K/UIBB is 4.9. That's not likely to continue, but yes, it would be the best ever by a large margin. (The Cubs, at 5.0, are actually posting a higher figure so far.)

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 24, 2015, 01:07:39 PM
Quick note from Joe Sheehan's newsletter, today's topic: the Mets...

QuoteThe Mets have used 13 pitchers this season. Just seven of those pitchers have walked more than one batter. I mentioned that the league K/UIBB was 2.9; the Mets' K/UIBB is 4.9. That's not likely to continue, but yes, it would be the best ever by a large margin. (The Cubs, at 5.0, are actually posting a higher figure so far.)

Quote from: Slaky on April 26, 2015, 09:02:58 PM
I got in the car and heard Franchester call the final pitch of today's game. He Hawk Harrelsoned it as much as possible when one is on the radio.

It was glorious.

Quote from: Bonk on April 27, 2015, 11:00:08 AM

Quote from: Slaky on April 26, 2015, 09:02:58 PM
I got in the car and heard Franchester call the final pitch of today's game. He Hawk Harrelsoned it as much as possible when one is on the radio.

It was glorious.

It's burning his bag that the Cubs are going to be better than the Reds for the remainder of his natural life. Even his dumb ass can see it.

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Quote from: Slaky on April 26, 2015, 09:02:58 PM
I got in the car and heard Franchester call the final pitch of today's game. He Hawk Harrelsoned it as much as possible when one is on the radio.

It was glorious.

It's burning his bag that the Cubs are going to be better than the Reds for the remainder of his natural life. Even his dumb ass can see it.

I hate the Cardinals most of all, but the fact that the Great Reds Revival came and went without them doing much of anything pleases me greatly. I look forward to Thom blowing a gasket next year and blaming Joey Votto's .390 OBP for them winning 71 games because he won't SWING THE BAT.

Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Quote from: ChuckD on April 27, 2015, 11:39:09 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 12:20:18 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on April 27, 2015, 11:39:09 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Well, he was a gobby cunt about the Cubs at the 2010 AS game.  Now that I try to find the article to back me up on that (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5382724), though, it appears that it subsequently turned out to be a joke (http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/12288804/) that the press at the time took seriously.  So perhaps he's all right, after all.

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Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Well, he was a gobby cunt about the Cubs at the 2010 AS game.  Now that I try to find the article to back me up on that (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5382724), though, it appears that it subsequently turned out to be a joke (http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/12288804/) that the press at the time took seriously.  So perhaps he's all right, after all.

Way to be a gobby cunt, Tonk.

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Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Well, he was a gobby cunt about the Cubs at the 2010 AS game.  Now that I try to find the article to back me up on that (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5382724), though, it appears that it subsequently turned out to be a joke (http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/12288804/) that the press at the time took seriously.  So perhaps he's all right, after all.

Way to be a gobby cunt, Tonk.

Well, ESPN should have fucking tracked me down to make sure that I knew they'd got it wrong.  Blame them.

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Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Well, he was a gobby cunt about the Cubs at the 2010 AS game.  Now that I try to find the article to back me up on that (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5382724), though, it appears that it subsequently turned out to be a joke (http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/12288804/) that the press at the time took seriously.  So perhaps he's all right, after all.

Way to be a gobby cunt, Tonk.

Well, ESPN should have fucking tracked me down to make sure that I knew they'd got it wrong.  Blame them.

What is it with the Welsh and being grobby, rumor-mongering cunts?

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Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Well, he was a gobby cunt about the Cubs at the 2010 AS game.  Now that I try to find the article to back me up on that (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5382724), though, it appears that it subsequently turned out to be a joke (http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/12288804/) that the press at the time took seriously.  So perhaps he's all right, after all.

Way to be a gobby cunt, Tonk.

Well, ESPN should have fucking tracked me down to make sure that I knew they'd got it wrong.  Blame them.

What is it with the Welsh and being grobby, rumor-mongering cunts?

What the fuck is "grobby"?

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Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Well, he was a gobby cunt about the Cubs at the 2010 AS game.  Now that I try to find the article to back me up on that (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5382724), though, it appears that it subsequently turned out to be a joke (http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/12288804/) that the press at the time took seriously.  So perhaps he's all right, after all.

Way to be a gobby cunt, Tonk.

Well, ESPN should have fucking tracked me down to make sure that I knew they'd got it wrong.  Blame them.

What is it with the Welsh and being grobby, rumor-mongering cunts?

What the fuck is "grobby"?

Sorry, I don't speak Welsh. It all sounds like "baaah" to me.

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Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Well, he was a gobby cunt about the Cubs at the 2010 AS game.  Now that I try to find the article to back me up on that (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5382724), though, it appears that it subsequently turned out to be a joke (http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/12288804/) that the press at the time took seriously.  So perhaps he's all right, after all.

Way to be a gobby cunt, Tonk.

Well, ESPN should have fucking tracked me down to make sure that I knew they'd got it wrong.  Blame them.

What is it with the Welsh and being grobby, rumor-mongering cunts?

What the fuck is "grobby"?

Sorry, I don't speak Welsh. It all sounds like "baaah" to me.

You don't speak anything that anybody outside Iowa speaks, you mean.  On account on your never having set foot over the state line, you fucking inbred hayseed.

Quote from: PenFoe on April 27, 2015, 01:47:20 PM
Here's some (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7293.msg224215#msg224215) good old-timey Desipio Joey Votto hate.

Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 12:32:03 PM

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Quote from: ChuckD on April 27, 2015, 11:39:09 AM

Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Votto ... colossal cunts.

Hrm? How so?

Well, he was a gobby cunt about the Cubs at the 2010 AS game.  Now that I try to find the article to back me up on that (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5382724), though, it appears that it subsequently turned out to be a joke (http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/12288804/) that the press at the time took seriously.  So perhaps he's all right, after all.

Way to be a gobby cunt, Tonk.

Well, ESPN should have fucking tracked me down to make sure that I knew they'd got it wrong.  Blame them.

What is it with the Welsh and being grobby, rumor-mongering cunts?

What the fuck is "grobby"?

Sorry, I don't speak Welsh. It all sounds like "baaah" to me.

You don't speak anything that anybody outside Iowa speaks, you mean.  On account on your never having set foot over the state line, you fucking inbred hayseed.

Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2015, 03:19:27 PM
I don't think he's quite splooge-thread worthy yet but Miguel Montero over the last two weeks is hitting .296/.355/.630/.984 with 3 homers and he's a good catcher and he's funny on the twitter so I like him so far. Welington is also holding up his end of the platoon with a .958 OPS vs. lefties so far.

Goddammit, David Ross.

Quote from: R-V on April 28, 2015, 03:54:47 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2015, 03:19:27 PM
I don't think he's quite splooge-thread worthy yet but Miguel Montero over the last two weeks is hitting .296/.355/.630/.984 with 3 homers and he's a good catcher and he's funny on the twitter so I like him so far. Welington is also holding up his end of the platoon with a .958 OPS vs. lefties so far.

Goddammit, David Ross.

Hey - baby steps - at least they're no longer carrying 13 pitchers. Now we're just one David Ross stumbling into a manhole from a regular roster.

Quote from: Slaky on April 28, 2015, 04:57:57 PM

Quote from: R-V on April 28, 2015, 03:54:47 PM

Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2015, 03:19:27 PM
I don't think he's quite splooge-thread worthy yet but Miguel Montero over the last two weeks is hitting .296/.355/.630/.984 with 3 homers and he's a good catcher and he's funny on the twitter so I like him so far. Welington is also holding up his end of the platoon with a .958 OPS vs. lefties so far.

Goddammit, David Ross.

Hey - baby steps - at least they're no longer carrying 13 pitchers. Now we're just one David Ross stumbling into a manhole from a regular roster.

David Ross will go on a weird hitting tear this year and you'll all be grabbing any which publication you can find to hide your confused boners. I can't wait.

Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2015, 10:11:13 PM
Five games over .500, female doges

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Five games over .500, female doges

I used to do this thing where I'd hold up my hand in the mirror when the Cubs got five games over five hundred and count the number of days I could go without being worried about their record. When they'd get to 10, two hands. Yes, I'm a total fucking loser when nobody is around. The things I do with my hands are horribly gross.

But I did the thing with the hand last night after "we" got to five games over. It felt stupid and now I hate myself.

Quote from: SKO on April 28, 2015, 10:11:13 PM
Five games over .500, female doges

Quote from: PenFoe on April 29, 2015, 10:13:32 AM
Cubs have the 6th best OBP in all of baseball.
They have the 2nd most Stolen Bases in all of baseball.
They have the 8th most walks in all of baseball.

I have no idea how we ended up here, but here we are.

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Quote from: PenFoe on April 29, 2015, 10:13:32 AM
Cubs have the 6th best OBP in all of baseball.
They have the 2nd most Stolen Bases in all of baseball.
They have the 8th most walks in all of baseball.

I have no idea how we ended up here, but here we are.

You've been posting non-stop in the Epstink thread for 3 goddamn years and you have no idea how we got here?

Jesus, Pen.

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

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A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

Yea, but we have David Ross, a failed first round draft pick hurt in AA, and no where to put Vogelbach. Rough times

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

Yea, but we have David Ross, a failed first round draft pick hurt in AA, and no where to put Vogelbach. Rough times

Yeah, but the staff has the top K/BB rate in the majors at 4.4, Kris Bryant has an OPS of 1.818 against pitches that are 94+ mph (lg. avg. is .696), Castro's hitting .478 (11/23) against non-fastballs the past two weeks (lg. avg. is .229), and the Cubs actually lead the league in drawing leadoff walks at 11.6% (20 BB in 173 PAs; lg. avg. is 7.3%).

Don't try and temper my positive with your insincerity.

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

Yea, but we have David Ross, a failed first round draft pick hurt in AA, and no where to put Vogelbach. Rough times

Yeah, but the staff has the top K/BB rate in the majors at 4.4, Kris Bryant has an OPS of 1.818 against pitches that are 94+ mph (lg. avg. is .696), Castro's hitting .478 (11/23) against non-fastballs the past two weeks (lg. avg. is .229), and the Cubs actually lead the league in drawing leadoff walks at 11.6% (20 BB in 173 PAs; lg. avg. is 7.3%).

Don't try and temper my positive with your insincerity.

Maybe "I don't know how to feel" wasn't the right words...

"I don't know what I'm feeling" any better? As in winning hasn't been a thing in some time.

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

Yea, but we have David Ross, a failed first round draft pick hurt in AA, and no where to put Vogelbach. Rough times

Yeah, but the staff has the top K/BB rate in the majors at 4.4, Kris Bryant has an OPS of 1.818 against pitches that are 94+ mph (lg. avg. is .696), Castro's hitting .478 (11/23) against non-fastballs the past two weeks (lg. avg. is .229), and the Cubs actually lead the MLB in drawing leadoff walks at 11.6% (20 BB in 173 PAs; lg. avg. is 7.3%).

Don't try and temper my positive with your insincerity.

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

Yea, but we have David Ross, a failed first round draft pick hurt in AA, and no where to put Vogelbach. Rough times

Yeah, but the staff has the top K/BB rate in the majors at 4.4, Kris Bryant has an OPS of 1.818 against pitches that are 94+ mph (lg. avg. is .696), Castro's hitting .478 (11/23) against non-fastballs the past two weeks (lg. avg. is .229), and the Cubs actually lead the league in drawing leadoff walks at 11.6% (20 BB in 173 PAs; lg. avg. is 7.3%).

Don't try and temper my positive with your insincerity.

Maybe "I don't know how to feel" wasn't the right words...

"I don't know what I'm feeling" any better? As in winning hasn't been a thing in some time.

I was replying to Yeti, but I can take a crack at diagnosing what you're feeling.

Do you find your pants to be fitting more snugly around the zipper area?

Quote from: SKO on April 30, 2015, 10:01:11 AM

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

Yea, but we have David Ross, a failed first round draft pick hurt in AA, and no where to put Vogelbach. Rough times

Yeah, but the staff has the top K/BB rate in the majors at 4.4, Kris Bryant has an OPS of 1.818 against pitches that are 94+ mph (lg. avg. is .696), Castro's hitting .478 (11/23) against non-fastballs the past two weeks (lg. avg. is .229), and the Cubs actually lead the MLB in drawing leadoff walks at 11.6% (20 BB in 173 PAs; lg. avg. is 7.3%).

Don't try and temper my positive with your insincerity.

Is there data supporting the fact that Bryant has sucked vs. changeups so far, though? Because I feel like everytime he gets in a 2-1 or 3-1 count and I gear up for boner time the pitcher throws him a changeup and Kris swings over it and my boner goes away a bit.

He's still beautiful and perfect in every way but I'm just waiting for him to prepare for the changeup in that situation and take some 85 MPH offering off the concrete that used to be the bleachers.

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

Yea, but we have David Ross, a failed first round draft pick hurt in AA, and no where to put Vogelbach. Rough times

Yeah, but the staff has the top K/BB rate in the majors at 4.4, Kris Bryant has an OPS of 1.818 against pitches that are 94+ mph (lg. avg. is .696), Castro's hitting .478 (11/23) against non-fastballs the past two weeks (lg. avg. is .229), and the Cubs actually lead the MLB in drawing leadoff walks at 11.6% (20 BB in 173 PAs; lg. avg. is 7.3%).

Don't try and temper my positive with your insincerity.

Is there data supporting the fact that Bryant has sucked vs. changeups so far, though? Because I feel like everytime he gets in a 2-1 or 3-1 count and I gear up for boner time the pitcher throws him a changeup and Kris swings over it and my boner goes away a bit.

He's still beautiful and perfect in every way but I'm just waiting for him to prepare for the changeup in that situation and take some 85 MPH offering off the concrete that used to be the bleachers.

While we're visiting ChuckD's Emporium of Interesting Stats, is there any way to look up Soler's numbers based on gametime temperature? It FEELS to me like his OPS is 7,000 on 60+ degree days and 12 on colder days, but my gut may be a bit off on that. The reason I ask of course is because he is Latin and the cold weather activates his Lazy Gland.

Quote from: ChuckD on April 30, 2015, 10:06:35 AM
Well, he's swung at 7 changeups/splitters when ahead in the count and missed on 4 of them. Among players who've swung at at least 5 CH/SPL in those situations, he's got the 8th highest miss percentage at 57.1% (lg avg is 36.1%).

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Hitter Misses Swings Miss%
Bruce Jay 5 7 71.4%
Callaspo Alberto 4 6 66.7%
Howard Ryan 4 6 66.7%
Peguero Carlos 4 6 66.7%
Sands Jerry 4 6 66.7%
Walker Neil 4 6 66.7%
Pompey Dalton 10 16 62.5%



So, there's maybe something there, but sample size and what have you. I can give you a host of other stats about how he's awesome, though.

Quote from: ChuckD on April 30, 2015, 10:06:35 AM
Well, he's swung at 7 changeups/splitters when ahead in the count and missed on 4 of them. Among players who've swung at at least 5 CH/SPL in those situations, he's got the 8th highest miss percentage at 57.1% (lg avg is 36.1%).

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Hitter Misses Swings Miss%
Bruce Jay 5 7 71.4%
Callaspo Alberto 4 6 66.7%
Howard Ryan 4 6 66.7%
Peguero Carlos 4 6 66.7%
Sands Jerry 4 6 66.7%
Walker Neil 4 6 66.7%
Pompey Dalton 10 16 62.5%



So, there's maybe something there, but sample size and what have you. I can give you a host of other stats about how he's awesome, though.

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Quote from: ChuckD on April 30, 2015, 10:06:35 AM
Well, he's swung at 7 changeups/splitters when ahead in the count and missed on 4 of them. Among players who've swung at at least 5 CH/SPL in those situations, he's got the 8th highest miss percentage at 57.1% (lg avg is 36.1%).

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Hitter Misses Swings Miss%
Bruce Jay 5 7 71.4%
Callaspo Alberto 4 6 66.7%
Howard Ryan 4 6 66.7%
Peguero Carlos 4 6 66.7%
Sands Jerry 4 6 66.7%
Walker Neil 4 6 66.7%
Pompey Dalton 10 16 62.5%



So, there's maybe something there, but sample size and what have you. I can give you a host of other stats about how he's awesome, though.

Also I would like to take you up on this offer. Please tell me more.

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Quote from: ChuckD on April 30, 2015, 10:06:35 AM
Well, he's swung at 7 changeups/splitters when ahead in the count and missed on 4 of them. Among players who've swung at at least 5 CH/SPL in those situations, he's got the 8th highest miss percentage at 57.1% (lg avg is 36.1%).

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Hitter Misses Swings Miss%
Bruce Jay 5 7 71.4%
Callaspo Alberto 4 6 66.7%
Howard Ryan 4 6 66.7%
Peguero Carlos 4 6 66.7%
Sands Jerry 4 6 66.7%
Walker Neil 4 6 66.7%
Pompey Dalton 10 16 62.5%



So, there's maybe something there, but sample size and what have you. I can give you a host of other stats about how he's awesome, though.

Yeah, I can't say I'm worried about it, and it's a common pitcher tactic in a situation where a young hitter would obviously be expecting a hittable fastball, I just feel like those 4 changeups were all boner killers. BONER KILLERS I SAY.

Quote from: R-V on April 30, 2015, 10:40:46 AM
April has been a fun month and I can't help but think it could get even better from here:

- By mid-June or so we should see Wada, Grimm, La Stella and Ramirez back in the fold with Coke, Germen, Herrera and possibly even E-Jax taking their rightful places in Iowa or some other buttpuddle burg.
- Rizzo, Bryant and Soler will probably end up hitting 100+ dongs in total which means we get to watch about 96 more this summer.
- Lester's gonna figure his shit out real soon.
- It's not likely, but possible that either Baez figures his shit out or Schwarber's timetable gets accelerated and we get another cookie later this summer as Coghlan heads to the bench.

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Quote from: ChuckD on April 30, 2015, 10:06:35 AM
Well, he's swung at 7 changeups/splitters when ahead in the count and missed on 4 of them. Among players who've swung at at least 5 CH/SPL in those situations, he's got the 8th highest miss percentage at 57.1% (lg avg is 36.1%).

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Hitter Misses Swings Miss%
Bruce Jay 5 7 71.4%
Callaspo Alberto 4 6 66.7%
Howard Ryan 4 6 66.7%
Peguero Carlos 4 6 66.7%
Sands Jerry 4 6 66.7%
Walker Neil 4 6 66.7%
Pompey Dalton 10 16 62.5%



So, there's maybe something there, but sample size and what have you. I can give you a host of other stats about how he's awesome, though.

Also I would like to take you up on this offer. Please tell me more.

*puts quarter in ChuckD Kris Bryant Machine*

Quote from: R-V on April 30, 2015, 10:40:46 AM
April has been a fun month and I can't help but think it could get even better from here:

- By mid-June or so we should see Wada, Grimm, La Stella and Ramirez back in the fold with Coke, Germen, Herrera and possibly even E-Jax taking their rightful places in Iowa or some other buttpuddle burg.
- Rizzo, Bryant and Soler will probably end up hitting 100+ dongs in total which means we get to watch about 96 more this summer.
- Lester's gonna figure his shit out real soon.
- It's not likely, but possible that either Baez figures his shit out or Schwarber's timetable gets accelerated and we get another cookie later this summer as Coghlan heads to the bench.

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 30, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
A winning month of April...I don't know what to feel.

Happy is a good start.

Yea, but we have David Ross, a failed first round draft pick hurt in AA, and no where to put Vogelbach. Rough times

Yeah, but the staff has the top K/BB rate in the majors at 4.4, Kris Bryant has an OPS of 1.818 against pitches that are 94+ mph (lg. avg. is .696), Castro's hitting .478 (11/23) against non-fastballs the past two weeks (lg. avg. is .229), and the Cubs actually lead the MLB in drawing leadoff walks at 11.6% (20 BB in 173 PAs; lg. avg. is 7.3%).

Don't try and temper my positive with your insincerity.

Is there data supporting the fact that Bryant has sucked vs. changeups so far, though? Because I feel like everytime he gets in a 2-1 or 3-1 count and I gear up for boner time the pitcher throws him a changeup and Kris swings over it and my boner goes away a bit.

He's still beautiful and perfect in every way but I'm just waiting for him to prepare for the changeup in that situation and take some 85 MPH offering off the concrete that used to be the bleachers.

While we're visiting ChuckD's Emporium of Interesting Stats, is there any way to look up Soler's numbers based on gametime temperature? It FEELS to me like his OPS is 7,000 on 60+ degree days and 12 on colder days, but my gut may be a bit off on that. The reason I ask of course is because he is Latin and the cold weather activates his Lazy Gland.

Sorry, interesting question, but I've got no way to aggregate on gametime temp.