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Title: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: thehawk on September 29, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
Karma, dude
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on October 02, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
In the face.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: CT III on October 07, 2015, 04:07:30 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Well, if Joe Cowley says it, it must be true.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: SKO on October 07, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Joe Cowley pushes so much anti-Rose bullshit that I just don't buy any of it. It may even be true, I just won't listen to anything that particular asswipe has to say about him.

He responded to fans complaining about Kirk Hinrich's playing time last year with a  bizarre twitter rant about Rose. Everything comes back to him hating the guy.

Find me another source and I'll listen.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on October 07, 2015, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Joe Cowley pushes so much anti-Rose bullshit that I just don't buy any of it. It may even be true, I just won't listen to anything that particular asswipe has to say about him.

He responded to fans complaining about Kirk Hinrich's playing time last year with a  bizarre twitter rant about Rose. Everything comes back to him hating the guy.

Find me another source and I'll listen.

If I were a Bulls fan I would hate Derrick Rose at this point. As a non-Bulls fan, I strongly dislike him. Hate is too strong because he's basically a distraction and money pit on a divisional rival. Every underwhelming playoff performance and puzzling media session is good for me personally so I don't ever want him to go away.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Joe Cowley pushes so much anti-Rose bullshit that I just don't buy any of it. It may even be true, I just won't listen to anything that particular asswipe has to say about him.

He responded to fans complaining about Kirk Hinrich's playing time last year with a  bizarre twitter rant about Rose. Everything comes back to him hating the guy.

Find me another source and I'll listen.

The relationship between fans and specific local media members in Chicago, particularly on this messageboard, never ceases to amaze me.

There are always a couple local guys everywhere I've lived that have some reputation and cause you to look at their reporting with some slant, but in Chicago, it's basically every single guy (positive or negative.)

Remarkable, really.   
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 07, 2015, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Joe Cowley pushes so much anti-Rose bullshit that I just don't buy any of it. It may even be true, I just won't listen to anything that particular asswipe has to say about him.

He responded to fans complaining about Kirk Hinrich's playing time last year with a  bizarre twitter rant about Rose. Everything comes back to him hating the guy.

Find me another source and I'll listen.

For the record, I've never heard anything Joe Cowley had to say about Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: SKO on October 07, 2015, 11:39:09 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 07, 2015, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Joe Cowley pushes so much anti-Rose bullshit that I just don't buy any of it. It may even be true, I just won't listen to anything that particular asswipe has to say about him.

He responded to fans complaining about Kirk Hinrich's playing time last year with a  bizarre twitter rant about Rose. Everything comes back to him hating the guy.

Find me another source and I'll listen.

If I were a Bulls fan I would hate Derrick Rose at this point. As a non-Bulls fan, I strongly dislike him. Hate is too strong because he's basically a distraction and money pit on a divisional rival. Every underwhelming playoff performance and puzzling media session is good for me personally so I don't ever want him to go away.

I don't like Rose at all. I like Joe Cowley even less
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 08, 2015, 12:55:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 11:39:09 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 07, 2015, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Joe Cowley pushes so much anti-Rose bullshit that I just don't buy any of it. It may even be true, I just won't listen to anything that particular asswipe has to say about him.

He responded to fans complaining about Kirk Hinrich's playing time last year with a  bizarre twitter rant about Rose. Everything comes back to him hating the guy.

Find me another source and I'll listen.

If I were a Bulls fan I would hate Derrick Rose at this point. As a non-Bulls fan, I strongly dislike him. Hate is too strong because he's basically a distraction and money pit on a divisional rival. Every underwhelming playoff performance and puzzling media session is good for me personally so I don't ever want him to go away.

I don't like Rose at all. I like Joe Cowley even less

He should've been launched long ago for proving on Twitter that he's an awful human being. He's scum and I've tried to avoid him whenever possible ever since. It bothers me that he still has that job.

I feel the same way about serial drunk driver and proud Kyardnulls announcer Teflon Dan McLaughlin, who luckily (for him, not so much for the driving public of St. Louis) works for a team where driving drunk is a résumé enhancement and grounds for sainthood.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on October 08, 2015, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 11:39:09 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 07, 2015, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Joe Cowley pushes so much anti-Rose bullshit that I just don't buy any of it. It may even be true, I just won't listen to anything that particular asswipe has to say about him.

He responded to fans complaining about Kirk Hinrich's playing time last year with a  bizarre twitter rant about Rose. Everything comes back to him hating the guy.

Find me another source and I'll listen.

If I were a Bulls fan I would hate Derrick Rose at this point. As a non-Bulls fan, I strongly dislike him. Hate is too strong because he's basically a distraction and money pit on a divisional rival. Every underwhelming playoff performance and puzzling media session is good for me personally so I don't ever want him to go away.

I don't like Rose at all. I like Joe Cowley even less

This makes sense. I've supported mediocre or even repugnant athletes for similar reasons too.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: SKO on October 08, 2015, 07:55:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 08, 2015, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 11:39:09 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on October 07, 2015, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 07, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 07, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Here's a nice distraction from tonight's game.

Jimmy Butler Reportedly Doesn't Respect Derrick Rose  's Work Ethic (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2576905-jimmy-butler-reportedly-doesnt-respect-derrick-roses-work-ethic?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

Fixed.

Joe Cowley pushes so much anti-Rose bullshit that I just don't buy any of it. It may even be true, I just won't listen to anything that particular asswipe has to say about him.

He responded to fans complaining about Kirk Hinrich's playing time last year with a  bizarre twitter rant about Rose. Everything comes back to him hating the guy.

Find me another source and I'll listen.

If I were a Bulls fan I would hate Derrick Rose at this point. As a non-Bulls fan, I strongly dislike him. Hate is too strong because he's basically a distraction and money pit on a divisional rival. Every underwhelming playoff performance and puzzling media session is good for me personally so I don't ever want him to go away.

I don't like Rose at all. I like Joe Cowley even less

This makes sense. I've supported mediocre or even repugnant athletes for similar reasons too.

If Woj or our old friend KD or basically anyone else with any kind of credibility in the NBA said Butler said that I'd have no trouble believing it. I just don't give a shit what Cowley has to say about it.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on November 06, 2015, 11:43:47 AM
That was a great win last night and Derek Rose was totally awesome, particularly in the 4th. 

Just saying.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on December 04, 2015, 12:31:13 PM
The underlying point that Derek Rose needs to be healthy to be explosive to be effective is valid and all, but Cal's "Derek Rose has a low pain tolerance" comment along with Rose's response of "Meh, I love Cal" and the implication that Cal is basically right is all just another super awful chapter in this saga. 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/john-calipari-on-derrick-rose---he-doesn-t-have-a-real-high-pain-threshold-194736749.html
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Eli on December 04, 2015, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2015, 12:31:13 PM
The underlying point that Derek Rose needs to be healthy to be explosive to be effective is valid and all, but Cal's "Derek Rose has a low pain tolerance" comment along with Rose's response of "Meh, I love Cal" and the implication that Cal is basically right is all just another super awful chapter in this saga. 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/john-calipari-on-derrick-rose---he-doesn-t-have-a-real-high-pain-threshold-194736749.html

My avatar is just meant to live forever. What a depressing fall from the most deserved MVP award ever.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on December 04, 2015, 01:45:25 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2015, 12:31:13 PM
The underlying point that Derek Rose needs to be healthy to be explosive to be effective is valid and all, but Cal's "Derek Rose has a low pain tolerance" comment along with Rose's response of "Meh, I love Cal" and the implication that Cal is basically right is all just another super awful chapter in this saga.  

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/john-calipari-on-derrick-rose---he-doesn-t-have-a-real-high-pain-threshold-194736749.html

The best thing I can say about Rose is that he seems like the kind of guy who will remain steadfastly removed from public life once he retires. So we can count on never seeing or hearing from/about him when he's done playing. His next contract will be a mid-level deal with some team that won't care much about trying to promote him as a star and that team will not be in Chicago where he was born and raised and worshipped by hundreds of thousands of fans.

Someday this will all end quietly and cleanly and we'll have our basketball watching lives back.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on December 04, 2015, 01:47:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 04, 2015, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2015, 12:31:13 PM
The underlying point that Derek Rose needs to be healthy to be explosive to be effective is valid and all, but Cal's "Derek Rose has a low pain tolerance" comment along with Rose's response of "Meh, I love Cal" and the implication that Cal is basically right is all just another super awful chapter in this saga. 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/john-calipari-on-derrick-rose---he-doesn-t-have-a-real-high-pain-threshold-194736749.html

My avatar is just meant to live forever. What a depressing fall from the most deserved MVP award ever.

Quality stickpoke but a few years tardy. Dwight Howard might have a fan left who still cares to argue about it.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Eli on December 04, 2015, 01:51:46 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 04, 2015, 01:47:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 04, 2015, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on December 04, 2015, 12:31:13 PM
The underlying point that Derek Rose needs to be healthy to be explosive to be effective is valid and all, but Cal's "Derek Rose has a low pain tolerance" comment along with Rose's response of "Meh, I love Cal" and the implication that Cal is basically right is all just another super awful chapter in this saga. 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/john-calipari-on-derrick-rose---he-doesn-t-have-a-real-high-pain-threshold-194736749.html

My avatar is just meant to live forever. What a depressing fall from the most deserved MVP award ever.

Quality stickpoke but a few years tardy. Dwight Howard might have a fan left who still cares to argue about it.

It was admittedly pretty lame, but I'm rarely in this thread so hey.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on January 04, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
29 dudes drafted before Jimmy Butler in 2011. 

And this is actually a pretty strong draft.

Kyrie Irving
Derrick Williams
Enes Kanter
Tristan Thompson
Jonas Valančiūnas
Jan Veselý
Bismack Biyombo
Brandon Knight
Kemba Walker
Jimmer Fredette
Klay Thompson
Alec Burks
Markieff Morris
Marcus Morris
Kawhi Leonard
Nikola Vučević
Iman Shumpert
Chris Singleton
Tobias Harris
Donatas Motiejūnas
Nolan Smith
Kenneth Faried
Nikola Mirotić
Reggie Jackson
MarShon Brooks
Jordan Hamilton
JaJuan Johnson
Norris Cole
Cory Joseph
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on January 05, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 04, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
29 dudes drafted before Jimmy Butler in 2011. 

And this is actually a pretty strong draft.

Kyrie Irving
Derrick Williams
Enes Kanter
Tristan Thompson
Jonas Valančiūnas
Jan Veselý
Bismack Biyombo
Brandon Knight
Kemba Walker
Jimmer Fredette
Klay Thompson
Alec Burks
Markieff Morris
Marcus Morris
Kawhi Leonard
Nikola Vučević
Iman Shumpert
Chris Singleton
Tobias Harris
Donatas Motiejūnas
Nolan Smith
Kenneth Faried
Nikola Mirotić
Reggie Jackson
MarShon Brooks
Jordan Hamilton
JaJuan Johnson (!)
Norris Cole
Cory Joseph

If we re-drafted today I'd only take Kawhi and Klay ahead of Jimmy. Kyrie's checkered injury history makes him a no-no.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on January 05, 2016, 10:38:55 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 05, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 04, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
29 dudes drafted before Jimmy Butler in 2011. 

And this is actually a pretty strong draft.

Kyrie Irving
Derrick Williams
Enes Kanter
Tristan Thompson
Jonas Valančiūnas
Jan Veselý
Bismack Biyombo
Brandon Knight
Kemba Walker
Jimmer Fredette
Klay Thompson
Alec Burks
Markieff Morris
Marcus Morris
Kawhi Leonard
Nikola Vučević
Iman Shumpert
Chris Singleton
Tobias Harris
Donatas Motiejūnas
Nolan Smith
Kenneth Faried
Nikola Mirotić
Reggie Jackson
MarShon Brooks
Jordan Hamilton
JaJuan Johnson (!)
Norris Cole
Cory Joseph

If we re-drafted today I'd only take Kawhi and Klay ahead of Jimmy. Kyrie's checkered injury history makes him a no-no.

This. Except my reasoning was "because I've heard of them," so I'm glad you said it.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on January 05, 2016, 10:46:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 05, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 04, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
29 dudes drafted before Jimmy Butler in 2011. 

And this is actually a pretty strong draft.

Kyrie Irving
Derrick Williams
Enes Kanter
Tristan Thompson
Jonas Valančiūnas
Jan Veselý
Bismack Biyombo
Brandon Knight
Kemba Walker
Jimmer Fredette
Klay Thompson
Alec Burks
Markieff Morris
Marcus Morris
Kawhi Leonard
Nikola Vučević
Iman Shumpert
Chris Singleton
Tobias Harris
Donatas Motiejūnas
Nolan Smith
Kenneth Faried
Nikola Mirotić
Reggie Jackson
MarShon Brooks
Jordan Hamilton
JaJuan Johnson (!)
Norris Cole
Cory Joseph

If we re-drafted today I'd only take Kawhi and Klay ahead of Jimmy. Kyrie's checkered injury history makes him a no-no.

Kawhi for sure.
Klay is probably a push for me with Jimmy.

Kemba is a much, much better pro than I thought he'd be, but I'd put him 4th and Kyrie 5th.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on January 05, 2016, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 05, 2016, 10:46:01 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 05, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 04, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
29 dudes drafted before Jimmy Butler in 2011. 

And this is actually a pretty strong draft.

Kyrie Irving
Derrick Williams
Enes Kanter
Tristan Thompson
Jonas Valančiūnas
Jan Veselý
Bismack Biyombo
Brandon Knight
Kemba Walker
Jimmer Fredette
Klay Thompson
Alec Burks
Markieff Morris
Marcus Morris
Kawhi Leonard
Nikola Vučević
Iman Shumpert
Chris Singleton
Tobias Harris
Donatas Motiejūnas
Nolan Smith
Kenneth Faried
Nikola Mirotić
Reggie Jackson
MarShon Brooks
Jordan Hamilton
JaJuan Johnson (!)
Norris Cole
Cory Joseph

If we re-drafted today I'd only take Kawhi and Klay ahead of Jimmy. Kyrie's checkered injury history makes him a no-no.

Kawhi for sure.
Klay is probably a push for me with Jimmy.

Kemba is a much, much better pro than I thought he'd be, but I'd put him 4th and Kyrie 5th.

I guess because Klay is solid contributor on a title-winning team and Jimmy is kind of the last man standing in Chicago, I'm going to risk overrating Klay. His skill set is pretty hard to come by but I could be talked out of it. Kemba over Kyrie again, could make sense, Irving's defense and injuries have to downgrade him. What a great draft class.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on January 22, 2016, 03:13:29 PM
Whoa.

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/0591255239.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/7518540782.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/1086966957.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/2133761335.png)
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on January 22, 2016, 04:10:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2016, 03:13:29 PM
Whoa.

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/0591255239.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/7518540782.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/1086966957.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/2133761335.png)


HOLY SHIT


So many layers to this onion.

On the surface: HOLY SHIT a team with a three-game lead for the #1 seed in its conference has fired its coach halfway through his second season. In his first season he "coached" a team with over 80 turnover from the previous year to an appearance in the NBA Finals. In those Finals, without its second and third leading scorers, the team won two games against an historically dominant opponent, a feat that looks even more impressive given the Warriors current mushroom-stamping of the NBA and it's record book.

Beneath that layer however, the team is 1-5 against plausible Conference/NBA Finals opponents GSW, SAS, Toronto and Chicago. And the last loss to the Warriors laid so many failures bare that it seems impossible to believe they could turn them around in time to make another realistic run at a title. So, why not bring in a new coach to shake things up and focus on the offensive spacing and shooting woes and defensive flaws the team has?

Well, the problem as many see it is that LeBron himself, now with the odometer rolled up past the sublime to the ridiculous, isn't adjusting his own game to the limits imposed upon him by father time. At this point in his career, the fact that he hasn't developed a more dominant post game - given his extraordinary strength and passing ability is beyond belief. He'd prefer to play point forward and dribble out the clock until he has to take a shot from beyond the arc where his percentages have fallen inexplicably into a deep dark hole into which no sunshine ever gleans.

So reward him with the head coach that he wants? Run the system that he prefers? Promote a coach that has even less head coaching experience than the international weirdo that was in place? This would never have happened in Miami, where the organization was run from the top down and LeBron knew that when he left. If this team does not improve dramatically - and that won't be in wins and losses but in advanced metrics, overall team chemistry, credible performances against the league's top teams - LeBron's second tenure in Cleveland will look not just like a failure, but sort of embarrassing. It's all vindicated by just one championship. But his critics who said he was power hungry and self-centered will have ammo for the rest of their lives if this fails. Those who questioned his tenacity and fortitude are greatly mistaken. But the others, who correctly pointed out that his gigantic ego could cost him a chance to pursue the lofty heights of the NBA's top tier all time elite, now have him in their cross hairs.

And I really can't argue with them.  
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on January 22, 2016, 04:16:40 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 22, 2016, 04:10:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2016, 03:13:29 PM
Whoa.

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/0591255239.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/7518540782.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/1086966957.jpg)

(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/2133761335.png)


HOLY SHIT


So many layers to this onion.

On the surface: HOLY SHIT a team with a three-game lead for the #1 seed in its conference has fired its coach halfway through his second season. In his first season he "coached" a team with over 80 turnover from the previous year to an appearance in the NBA Finals. In those Finals, without its second and third leading scorers, the team won two games against an historically dominant opponent, a feat that looks even more impressive given the Warriors current mushroom-stamping of the NBA and it's record book.

Beneath that layer however, the team is 1-5 against plausible Conference/NBA Finals opponents GSW, SAS, Toronto and Chicago. And the last loss to the Warriors laid so many failures bare that it seems impossible to believe they could turn them around in time to make another realistic run at a title. So, why not bring in a new coach to shake things up and focus on the offensive spacing and shooting woes and defensive flaws the team has?

Well, the problem as many see it is that LeBron himself, now with the odometer rolled up past the sublime to the ridiculous, isn't adjusting his own game to the limits imposed upon him by father time. At this point in his career, the fact that he hasn't developed a more dominant post game - given his extraordinary strength and passing ability is beyond belief. He'd prefer to play point forward and dribble out the clock until he has to take a shot from beyond the arc where his percentages have fallen inexplicably into a deep dark hole into which no sunshine ever gleans.

So reward him with the head coach that he wants? Run the system that he prefers? Promote a coach that has even less head coaching experience than the international weirdo that was in place? This would never have happened in Miami, where the organization was run from the top down and LeBron knew that when he left. If this team does not improve dramatically - and that won't be in wins and losses but in advanced metrics, overall team chemistry, credible performances against the league's top teams - LeBron's second tenure in Cleveland will look not just like a failure, but sort of embarrassing. It's all vindicated by just one championship. But his critics who said he was power hungry and self-centered will have ammo for the rest of their lives if this fails. Those who questioned his tenacity and fortitude are greatly mistaken. But the others, who correctly pointed out that his gigantic ego could cost him a chance to pursue the lofty heights of the NBA's top tier all time elite, now have him in their cross hairs.

And I really can't argue with them.  

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Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on February 03, 2016, 09:53:10 PM
Not to go all Mercury Morris in here, but I'll be a little sad when the Warriors break the Bulls' all-time single season record for wins.

They have to go 28-5 the rest of the way (.848%) when they've been at .918% so far this year.

In theory they could rest a bit the last week of the season with a small lead over the Spurs, but barring a Steph injury, 72-10 looks awfully shaky right now.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on February 04, 2016, 10:21:16 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 03, 2016, 09:53:10 PM
Not to go all Mercury Morris in here, but I'll be a little sad when the Warriors break the Bulls' all-time single season record for wins.

They have to go 28-5 the rest of the way (.848%) when they've been at .918% so far this year.

In theory they could rest a bit the last week of the season with a small lead over the Spurs, but barring a Steph injury, 72-10 looks awfully shaky right now.

And they will have traveled more miles than any other team in NBA history according to a comment I heard on an ABC telecast. If that's correct, they're truly the most dominant regular-season team of our lifetime. I don't know what the old Celtics teams were like but they're just ridiculously good.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Eli on February 04, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*

The Warriors won 67 games last season, so that's also within reach.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: flannj on February 04, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*

Are you quoting Dr. Seuss?
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 04, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 04, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*

The Warriors won 67 games last season, so that's also within reach.

I like it.  That would require them to win 75 games and would be awesome if they did it (though the other part me doesn't  want them to of course).

That'd be great shit if they approached both marks.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on February 04, 2016, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 04, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*

Are you quoting Dr. Seuss?

No just some old Desipio meta-self-depracating shit that this shit-for-brains site's shit-for-brains search function cannot help me in better referencing right now.

*tips cat*
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: R-V on February 04, 2016, 02:02:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 04, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*

Are you quoting Dr. Seuss?

No just some old Desipio meta-self-depracating shit that this shit-for-brains site's shit-for-brains search function cannot help me in better referencing right now.

*tips cat*

I hacked through the impenetrable shit-for-brains search firewall and found the origins of this one (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=2918.msg294612#msg294612) using the complex search term of "your cat."
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: flannj on February 04, 2016, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 04, 2016, 02:02:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 04, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*

Are you quoting Dr. Seuss?

No just some old Desipio meta-self-depracating shit that this shit-for-brains site's shit-for-brains search function cannot help me in better referencing right now.

*tips cat*

I hacked through the impenetrable shit-for-brains search firewall and found the origins of this one (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=2918.msg294612#msg294612) using the complex search term of "your cat."
And now I'm laughing.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: SKO on February 04, 2016, 02:44:31 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 04, 2016, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 04, 2016, 02:02:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 04, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*

Are you quoting Dr. Seuss?

No just some old Desipio meta-self-depracating shit that this shit-for-brains site's shit-for-brains search function cannot help me in better referencing right now.

*tips cat*

I hacked through the impenetrable shit-for-brains search firewall and found the origins of this one (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=2918.msg294612#msg294612) using the complex search term of "your cat."
And now I'm laughing.

Ditto
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Saul Goodman on February 04, 2016, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 04, 2016, 02:02:30 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: flannj on February 04, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 04, 2016, 12:32:28 PM
Then we'll just have to hang our cat on the fact that they averaged 70.5 wins over 2 successive seasons.

*Coughs on knuckles, brushes chest*

Are you quoting Dr. Seuss?

No just some old Desipio meta-self-depracating shit that this shit-for-brains site's shit-for-brains search function cannot help me in better referencing right now.

*tips cat*

I hacked through the impenetrable shit-for-brains search firewall and found the origins of this one (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=2918.msg294612#msg294612) using the complex search term of "your cat."

Damn, dude. You could totally be on the CSI.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on March 03, 2016, 12:17:39 PM
Chicago has given up 102 or more points in 15 straight games.

I miss Thibs
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on March 03, 2016, 03:27:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2016, 12:17:39 PM
Chicago has given up 102 or more points in 15 straight games.

I miss Thibs

This is what happens when mediocre rosters start losing their best players to injury. I don't really know what people expected out of this team. I hear people on the Score talking about oh, they're so bad... No shit.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Yeti on March 04, 2016, 09:06:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 03, 2016, 03:27:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2016, 12:17:39 PM
Chicago has given up 102 or more points in 15 straight games.

I miss Thibs

This is what happens when mediocre rosters start losing their best players to injury. I don't really know what people expected out of this team. I hear people on the Score talking about oh, they're so bad... No shit.

I think there's also the aspect of them losing players before and still being able to win games. The mayor doesn't push these guys to win games they shouldn't win like Thibs did.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on March 04, 2016, 10:41:01 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 04, 2016, 09:06:09 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 03, 2016, 03:27:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 03, 2016, 12:17:39 PM
Chicago has given up 102 or more points in 15 straight games.

I miss Thibs

This is what happens when mediocre rosters start losing their best players to injury. I don't really know what people expected out of this team. I hear people on the Score talking about oh, they're so bad... No shit.

I think there's also the aspect of them losing players before and still being able to win games. The mayor doesn't push these guys to win games they shouldn't win like Thibs did.

For all the good that did them, I can see why they'd be reluctant to keep up that intensity now. There was a certain sense of pride they took in winning all those meaningless games and being stroked by national pundits as possible foils for the conference elite. Come playoff time they were too tired and broken to compete. They're over it.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Eli on June 22, 2016, 08:11:41 PM
Welp (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/120277/what-are-the-knicks-getting-in-derrick-rose).
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: Shooter on June 23, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
Congrats to Apex and all of the long-suffering Cavs fans.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: InternetApex on July 01, 2016, 03:15:39 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 23, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
Congrats to Apex and all of the long-suffering Cavs fans.

I figured since my work in Cleveland is done, I might mosey back on over to Knickland for the Porzingawd Era. But it's not worth enduring even one second of Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah's corpses. I'm not doing that. I'll see if LeBron can win one more for the 'land before starting another Superfriends Team wherever he and Chris Paul decide to set up shop.
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: JD on February 09, 2020, 01:04:54 PM
NBA Post-Trade Deadline Predictions:

Andre Iguodala is a non-factor. Good riddance. Go Grizzlies

Wiggins puts up points for a bad Warriors team and everyone says the Warriors pulled off a steal. Wiggins is still bad, though. He's probably the best scorer on a bad Warriors team, though, and someone has to score points in an NBA game. It doesn't mean he's any different than he's always been. He's not even as good as Harrison Barnes.

Grizz miss the playoffs, but barely. :(

D-Lo Russell scores a lot for the TWolves. They're still bad. Towns still isn't happy. Towns isn't as good as people say he is, either. For his team to win, he needs to be the 2nd or 3rd option. I guess he might be the 2nd option, now, but only because Russell will make sure he gets his. Which is why the Twolves will still be bad and why Town will still be unhappy.

Houston wins it all. :/
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: PenFoe on February 24, 2020, 12:23:18 PM
Quote from: JD on February 09, 2020, 01:04:54 PM
NBA Post-Trade Deadline Predictions:

Andre Iguodala is a non-factor. Good riddance. Go Grizzlies

Wiggins puts up points for a bad Warriors team and everyone says the Warriors pulled off a steal. Wiggins is still bad, though. He's probably the best scorer on a bad Warriors team, though, and someone has to score points in an NBA game. It doesn't mean he's any different than he's always been. He's not even as good as Harrison Barnes.

Grizz miss the playoffs, but barely. :(

D-Lo Russell scores a lot for the TWolves. They're still bad. Towns still isn't happy. Towns isn't as good as people say he is, either. For his team to win, he needs to be the 2nd or 3rd option. I guess he might be the 2nd option, now, but only because Russell will make sure he gets his. Which is why the Twolves will still be bad and why Town will still be unhappy.

Houston wins it all. :/

You're the same guy that always used to post about how slow Harden was, right?  How he was going to be a bust or something?
Title: Re: The 2015-2016 Derek Rose Broke Something so it's time for the NBA thread
Post by: JD on February 27, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 24, 2020, 12:23:18 PM
Quote from: JD on February 09, 2020, 01:04:54 PM
NBA Post-Trade Deadline Predictions:

Andre Iguodala is a non-factor. Good riddance. Go Grizzlies

Wiggins puts up points for a bad Warriors team and everyone says the Warriors pulled off a steal. Wiggins is still bad, though. He's probably the best scorer on a bad Warriors team, though, and someone has to score points in an NBA game. It doesn't mean he's any different than he's always been. He's not even as good as Harrison Barnes.

Grizz miss the playoffs, but barely. :(

D-Lo Russell scores a lot for the TWolves. They're still bad. Towns still isn't happy. Towns isn't as good as people say he is, either. For his team to win, he needs to be the 2nd or 3rd option. I guess he might be the 2nd option, now, but only because Russell will make sure he gets his. Which is why the Twolves will still be bad and why Town will still be unhappy.

Houston wins it all. :/

You're the same guy that always used to post about how slow Harden was, right?  How he was going to be a bust or something?

True, but I was right about everything else.