If we already have a 2016 general mlb thread I apologize.
Reading the ZiPS projections for the Angels and kind of marvelling at this:
QuoteA team composed of all exactly replacement-level players and also Mike Trout would record roughly 57 wins over the course of a season — meaning the Angels, as a group, need to augment Trout's contribution with about 30 wins of their own in order to qualify for the postseason in some fashion.
And then laughing at this:
QuoteKole Calhoun (604 PA, 2.7 zWAR) and the newly acquired Andrelton Simmons (590 PA, 3.7 zWAR) would appear to be useful in that endeavor. Depending on the health of his foot, Albert Pujols (602 PA, 2.7 zWAR) might also be, as well. After those four players, however, finding even an average projection among the club's hitters is difficult.
Add in that Keith Law and others seem to think that the Angels farm system is the worst in the majors by far, and that they appear unwilling to spend their way past the luxury tax while Pujols becomes dead weight more and more each year....it's kind of depressing how the Angels are going to waste the best years of Trout's career.
I wonder if there's any other team in the playoff era that has managed to consistently waste that level of production from one or two young superstars.
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
If we already have a 2016 general mlb thread I apologize.
Reading the ZiPS projections for the Angels and kind of marvelling at this:
QuoteA team composed of all exactly replacement-level players and also Mike Trout would record roughly 57 wins over the course of a season — meaning the Angels, as a group, need to augment Trout's contribution with about 30 wins of their own in order to qualify for the postseason in some fashion.
And then laughing at this:
QuoteKole Calhoun (604 PA, 2.7 zWAR) and the newly acquired Andrelton Simmons (590 PA, 3.7 zWAR) would appear to be useful in that endeavor. Depending on the health of his foot, Albert Pujols (602 PA, 2.7 zWAR) might also be, as well. After those four players, however, finding even an average projection among the club's hitters is difficult.
Add in that Keith Law and others seem to think that the Angels farm system is the worst in the majors by far, and that they appear unwilling to spend their way past the luxury tax while Pujols becomes dead weight more and more each year....it's kind of depressing how the Angels are going to waste the best years of Trout's career.
I wonder if there's any other team in the playoff era that has managed to consistently waste that level of production from one or two young superstars.
The luxury tax thing would be maddening to me if I were an Angels fan.
They have Weaver and Wilson coming off the books next year. There's a new CBA that will be negotiated this off-season. Trout is so amazingly awesome that he'll have HoF numbers by the time he's 28.
Imagine a team of Trout and 7 Murtons winning 57 major league games. Holy shit.
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
If we already have a 2016 general mlb thread I apologize.
Reading the ZiPS projections for the Angels and kind of marvelling at this:
QuoteA team composed of all exactly replacement-level players and also Mike Trout would record roughly 57 wins over the course of a season — meaning the Angels, as a group, need to augment Trout's contribution with about 30 wins of their own in order to qualify for the postseason in some fashion.
And then laughing at this:
QuoteKole Calhoun (604 PA, 2.7 zWAR) and the newly acquired Andrelton Simmons (590 PA, 3.7 zWAR) would appear to be useful in that endeavor. Depending on the health of his foot, Albert Pujols (602 PA, 2.7 zWAR) might also be, as well. After those four players, however, finding even an average projection among the club's hitters is difficult.
Add in that Keith Law and others seem to think that the Angels farm system is the worst in the majors by far, and that they appear unwilling to spend their way past the luxury tax while Pujols becomes dead weight more and more each year....it's kind of depressing how the Angels are going to waste the best years of Trout's career.
I wonder if there's any other team in the playoff era that has managed to consistently waste that level of production from one or two young superstars.
The Joe Sheehan piece about them trading Trout was spot-on in its idea and it'd be interesting to hear more people talk about it (because his Cubs' offer, as we discussed, was laughable).
While we're at it, BP published their Nationals top-10 prospect list (now with 99% fewer hot takes!).
Quote from: Nats Top 10
Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/90 or later)
1. Bryce Harper
...
Let this sink in for a moment: Bryce Harper will be on the 2018 25U Nationals list.
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
If we already have a 2016 general mlb thread I apologize.
Reading the ZiPS projections for the Angels and kind of marvelling at this:
QuoteA team composed of all exactly replacement-level players and also Mike Trout would record roughly 57 wins over the course of a season — meaning the Angels, as a group, need to augment Trout's contribution with about 30 wins of their own in order to qualify for the postseason in some fashion.
And then laughing at this:
QuoteKole Calhoun (604 PA, 2.7 zWAR) and the newly acquired Andrelton Simmons (590 PA, 3.7 zWAR) would appear to be useful in that endeavor. Depending on the health of his foot, Albert Pujols (602 PA, 2.7 zWAR) might also be, as well. After those four players, however, finding even an average projection among the club's hitters is difficult.
Add in that Keith Law and others seem to think that the Angels farm system is the worst in the majors by far, and that they appear unwilling to spend their way past the luxury tax while Pujols becomes dead weight more and more each year....it's kind of depressing how the Angels are going to waste the best years of Trout's career.
I wonder if there's any other team in the playoff era that has managed to consistently waste that level of production from one or two young superstars.
Ernie Banks... OK, you said playoff era:
1) Tim Raines and Andre Dawson and Gary Carter and Tim Wallach... 1 playoff appearance over 6 years together.
2) Cal Ripken and Eddie Murray after 1983
3) Dale Murphy
4) Paul Molitor, Robin Yount ... no playoffs after 1982.
Those are stretches, nothing like Trout.
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
While we're at it, BP published their Nationals top-10 prospect list (now with 99% fewer hot takes!).
Quote from: Nats Top 10
Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/90 or later)
1. Bryce Harper
...
Let this sink in for a moment: Bryce Harper will be on the 2018 25U Nationals list.
It's so crazy that he'll be younger than Kris Bryant for at least one more season.
Quote from: Brownie on February 04, 2016, 03:09:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
If we already have a 2016 general mlb thread I apologize.
Reading the ZiPS projections for the Angels and kind of marvelling at this:
QuoteA team composed of all exactly replacement-level players and also Mike Trout would record roughly 57 wins over the course of a season — meaning the Angels, as a group, need to augment Trout's contribution with about 30 wins of their own in order to qualify for the postseason in some fashion.
And then laughing at this:
QuoteKole Calhoun (604 PA, 2.7 zWAR) and the newly acquired Andrelton Simmons (590 PA, 3.7 zWAR) would appear to be useful in that endeavor. Depending on the health of his foot, Albert Pujols (602 PA, 2.7 zWAR) might also be, as well. After those four players, however, finding even an average projection among the club's hitters is difficult.
Add in that Keith Law and others seem to think that the Angels farm system is the worst in the majors by far, and that they appear unwilling to spend their way past the luxury tax while Pujols becomes dead weight more and more each year....it's kind of depressing how the Angels are going to waste the best years of Trout's career.
I wonder if there's any other team in the playoff era that has managed to consistently waste that level of production from one or two young superstars.
Ernie Banks... OK, you said playoff era:
1) Tim Raines and Andre Dawson and Gary Carter and Tim Wallach... 1 playoff appearance over 6 years together.
2) Cal Ripken and Eddie Murray after 1983
3) Dale Murphy
4) Paul Molitor, Robin Yount ... no playoffs after 1982.
Those are stretches, nothing like Trout.
None of those players are even close to being as good as Trout (peak years).
How ridiculous is it that we get to watch Trout, Harper, and Kershaw?
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on February 04, 2016, 03:09:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
If we already have a 2016 general mlb thread I apologize.
Reading the ZiPS projections for the Angels and kind of marvelling at this:
QuoteA team composed of all exactly replacement-level players and also Mike Trout would record roughly 57 wins over the course of a season — meaning the Angels, as a group, need to augment Trout's contribution with about 30 wins of their own in order to qualify for the postseason in some fashion.
And then laughing at this:
QuoteKole Calhoun (604 PA, 2.7 zWAR) and the newly acquired Andrelton Simmons (590 PA, 3.7 zWAR) would appear to be useful in that endeavor. Depending on the health of his foot, Albert Pujols (602 PA, 2.7 zWAR) might also be, as well. After those four players, however, finding even an average projection among the club's hitters is difficult.
Add in that Keith Law and others seem to think that the Angels farm system is the worst in the majors by far, and that they appear unwilling to spend their way past the luxury tax while Pujols becomes dead weight more and more each year....it's kind of depressing how the Angels are going to waste the best years of Trout's career.
I wonder if there's any other team in the playoff era that has managed to consistently waste that level of production from one or two young superstars.
Ernie Banks... OK, you said playoff era:
1) Tim Raines and Andre Dawson and Gary Carter and Tim Wallach... 1 playoff appearance over 6 years together.
2) Cal Ripken and Eddie Murray after 1983
3) Dale Murphy
4) Paul Molitor, Robin Yount ... no playoffs after 1982.
Those are stretches, nothing like Trout.
None of those players are even close to being as good as Trout (peak years).
How ridiculous is it that we get to watch Trout, Harper, and Kershaw?
Or that the next two best players from this era might be Bryant and Addison Russell?
Quote from: Eli on February 04, 2016, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
If we already have a 2016 general mlb thread I apologize.
Reading the ZiPS projections for the Angels and kind of marvelling at this:
QuoteA team composed of all exactly replacement-level players and also Mike Trout would record roughly 57 wins over the course of a season — meaning the Angels, as a group, need to augment Trout's contribution with about 30 wins of their own in order to qualify for the postseason in some fashion.
And then laughing at this:
QuoteKole Calhoun (604 PA, 2.7 zWAR) and the newly acquired Andrelton Simmons (590 PA, 3.7 zWAR) would appear to be useful in that endeavor. Depending on the health of his foot, Albert Pujols (602 PA, 2.7 zWAR) might also be, as well. After those four players, however, finding even an average projection among the club's hitters is difficult.
Add in that Keith Law and others seem to think that the Angels farm system is the worst in the majors by far, and that they appear unwilling to spend their way past the luxury tax while Pujols becomes dead weight more and more each year....it's kind of depressing how the Angels are going to waste the best years of Trout's career.
I wonder if there's any other team in the playoff era that has managed to consistently waste that level of production from one or two young superstars.
The Joe Sheehan piece about them trading Trout was spot-on in its idea and it'd be interesting to hear more people talk about it (because his Cubs' offer, as we discussed, was laughable).
There's just no reason to trade him. He's so young that he'll still peaking (quite a trip) in 5 years, right? Their albatross contracts (Wilson, Weaver, Hamilton) will come off the books and he'll still be the best player in the league and still within his current deal (I'm pretty sure that's true). With their money and Trout's prime years, they'll never have to rebuild. That's my theory.
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:15:25 PM
There's just no reason to trade him. He's so young that he'll still peaking (quite a trip) in 5 years, right? Their albatross contracts (Wilson, Weaver, Hamilton) will come off the books and he'll still be the best player in the league and still within his current deal (I'm pretty sure that's true). With their money and Trout's prime years, they'll never have to rebuild. That's my theory.
He's
in his peak, which I think is different than "still peaking." He's not a normal ballplayer, so you can't assume he'll follow normal aging curves, but I don't think it's safe to say he'll be as good at age 27 as he is now. Probably still very good, but it's unreasonable to count on someone to basically continue being unprecedented.
Quote from: Eli on February 04, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:15:25 PM
There's just no reason to trade him. He's so young that he'll still peaking (quite a trip) in 5 years, right? Their albatross contracts (Wilson, Weaver, Hamilton) will come off the books and he'll still be the best player in the league and still within his current deal (I'm pretty sure that's true). With their money and Trout's prime years, they'll never have to rebuild. That's my theory.
He's in his peak, which I think is different than "still peaking." He's not a normal ballplayer, so you can't assume he'll follow normal aging curves, but I don't think it's safe to say he'll be as good at age 27 as he is now. Probably still very good, but it's unreasonable to count on someone to basically continue being unprecedented.
What if the Angels are saving up their cash to make a run at Harper when he becomes a FA? Imagine having both of them on the same team. It's not an entirely unrealistic scenario
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 04, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:15:25 PM
There's just no reason to trade him. He's so young that he'll still peaking (quite a trip) in 5 years, right? Their albatross contracts (Wilson, Weaver, Hamilton) will come off the books and he'll still be the best player in the league and still within his current deal (I'm pretty sure that's true). With their money and Trout's prime years, they'll never have to rebuild. That's my theory.
He's in his peak, which I think is different than "still peaking." He's not a normal ballplayer, so you can't assume he'll follow normal aging curves, but I don't think it's safe to say he'll be as good at age 27 as he is now. Probably still very good, but it's unreasonable to count on someone to basically continue being unprecedented.
What if the Angels are saving up their cash to make a run at Harper when he becomes a FA? Imagine having both of them on the same team. It's not an entirely unrealistic scenario
My mind is literally spinning. I'm spinning around in my office chair.
Whatever future plans they may have, not making moves this offseason seems pretty inexcusable in what's clearly a buyer's market at this point. They could have easily gone after Cespedes and the like that would have helped them approach that Trout+30 number without being albatrosses like the Hamilton deal. They've effectively punted a year in which their top player should be worth 9 wins. Unbelieveable.
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 03:30:40 PM
Whatever future plans they may have, not making moves this offseason seems pretty inexcusable in what's clearly a buyer's market at this point. They could have easily gone after Cespedes and the like that would have helped them approach that Trout+30 number without being albatrosses like the Hamilton deal. They've effectively punted a year in which their top player should be worth 9 wins. Unbelieveable.
That whole shine on Arte Moreno being such a great owner...whatever happened to that?
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 04, 2016, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 03:30:40 PM
Whatever future plans they may have, not making moves this offseason seems pretty inexcusable in what's clearly a buyer's market at this point. They could have easily gone after Cespedes and the like that would have helped them approach that Trout+30 number without being albatrosses like the Hamilton deal. They've effectively punted a year in which their top player should be worth 9 wins. Unbelieveable.
That whole shine on Arte Moreno being such a great owner...whatever happened to that?
Yeah, I mean if you define "great owner" as "willing to spend" he's certainly not been cheap, going all the way back to signing Vlad Guerrero back in '04, but letting that whole mess with DiPoto and Scioscia carry on the way it did and now sitting pat while Trout's best years go to waste...not a good look.
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 04, 2016, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 04, 2016, 03:30:40 PM
Whatever future plans they may have, not making moves this offseason seems pretty inexcusable in what's clearly a buyer's market at this point. They could have easily gone after Cespedes and the like that would have helped them approach that Trout+30 number without being albatrosses like the Hamilton deal. They've effectively punted a year in which their top player should be worth 9 wins. Unbelieveable.
That whole shine on Arte Moreno being such a great owner...whatever happened to that?
Yeah, I mean if you define "great owner" as "willing to spend" he's certainly not been cheap, going all the way back to signing Vlad Guerrero back in '04, but letting that whole mess with DiPoto and Scioscia carry on the way it did and now sitting pat while Trout's best years go to waste...not a good look.
I'm glad we don't have to live in a world where the Cubs have other priorities besides winning. Until Trooblud gets his way, I mean.
Quote from: Eli on February 04, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
While we're at it, BP published their Nationals top-10 prospect list (now with 99% fewer hot takes!).
Quote from: Nats Top 10
Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/90 or later)
1. Bryce Harper
...
Let this sink in for a moment: Bryce Harper will be on the 2018 25U Nationals list.
It's so crazy that he'll be younger than Kris Bryant for at least one more season.
Bryant has a Dorian Gray portrait in the attic?
Neither one of these is really a fit nor would they make sense for the Cubs but fuck it I want them anyway give me all of the Cubans: http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/02/08/huge-cuban-defection-news-is-breaking-and-other-bullets/
Quote from: SKO on February 08, 2016, 09:22:14 AM
Neither one of these is really a fit nor would they make sense for the Cubs but fuck it I want them anyway give me all of the Cubans: http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/02/08/huge-cuban-defection-news-is-breaking-and-other-bullets/
There was a story about these two on ESPN the other day and whomever was giving the prospectus on these two didn't have glowing words. He basically said the eldest brother would be an average contributor and the youngest is a ML-ready defender with no offensive potential.
But, ESPN.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 09, 2016, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 08, 2016, 09:22:14 AM
Neither one of these is really a fit nor would they make sense for the Cubs but fuck it I want them anyway give me all of the Cubans: http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/02/08/huge-cuban-defection-news-is-breaking-and-other-bullets/
There was a story about these two on ESPN the other day and whomever was giving the prospectus on these two didn't have glowing words. He basically said the eldest brother would be an average contributor and the youngest is a ML-ready defender with no offensive potential.
But, ESPN.
Doesn't seem to mesh with what Ben Badler and Jesse Sanchez and others have said about them, but to each their own I suppose. The "no offensive potential" for the younger one especially seems out of order with what others have said. Over the last two years at age 20 and 21 Lourdes hit .308/.388/.466 and .321/.387/.537. I don't know if we have enough data points yet to really determine how effectively Cuban stats translate to the big league game but he certainly seems to have offensive potential, and he's a big, strong looking dude.
Quote from: SKO on February 09, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 09, 2016, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 08, 2016, 09:22:14 AM
Neither one of these is really a fit nor would they make sense for the Cubs but fuck it I want them anyway give me all of the Cubans: http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/02/08/huge-cuban-defection-news-is-breaking-and-other-bullets/
There was a story about these two on ESPN the other day and whomever was giving the prospectus on these two didn't have glowing words. He basically said the eldest brother would be an average contributor and the youngest is a ML-ready defender with no offensive potential.
But, ESPN.
Doesn't seem to mesh with what Ben Badler and Jesse Sanchez and others have said about them, but to each their own I suppose. The "no offensive potential" for the younger one especially seems out of order with what others have said. Over the last two years at age 20 and 21 Lourdes hit .308/.388/.466 and .321/.387/.537. I don't know if we have enough data points yet to really determine how effectively Cuban stats translate to the big league game but he certainly seems to have offensive potential, and he's a big, strong looking dude.
Fair enough. But so was Jake Fox.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 09, 2016, 01:11:26 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 09, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on February 09, 2016, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 08, 2016, 09:22:14 AM
Neither one of these is really a fit nor would they make sense for the Cubs but fuck it I want them anyway give me all of the Cubans: http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/02/08/huge-cuban-defection-news-is-breaking-and-other-bullets/
There was a story about these two on ESPN the other day and whomever was giving the prospectus on these two didn't have glowing words. He basically said the eldest brother would be an average contributor and the youngest is a ML-ready defender with no offensive potential.
But, ESPN.
Doesn't seem to mesh with what Ben Badler and Jesse Sanchez and others have said about them, but to each their own I suppose. The "no offensive potential" for the younger one especially seems out of order with what others have said. Over the last two years at age 20 and 21 Lourdes hit .308/.388/.466 and .321/.387/.537. I don't know if we have enough data points yet to really determine how effectively Cuban stats translate to the big league game but he certainly seems to have offensive potential, and he's a big, strong looking dude.
Fair enough. But so was Jake Fox.
And Josh Vitters.
30 game suspension for Chapman seem fair?
Really tricky situation since Manfred can't just rule arbitrarily like Goodell does in the NFL, but I'd say almost 20% of the season despite no actual police charges seems about as far as they could reasonably go without serious pushback from the union.
Quote from: SKO on March 01, 2016, 03:54:52 PM
30 game suspension for Chapman seem fair?
Really tricky situation since Manfred can't just rule arbitrarily like Goodell does in the NFL, but I'd say almost 20% of the season despite no actual police charges seems about as far as they could reasonably go without serious pushback from the union.
Was just talking about this on Slack.
Ray Rice's initial 2 game suspension (which was roundly and rightfully criticized) was only 6% less of the season (12.5% vs. 18.5%) so that doesn't feel anymore justice has been done.
Sure, there was video for Ray Rice, but we all know the deal now, we shouldn't need video.
I get the differences in player association and CBA rules, but seems light to me, if we want to use Ray Rice as a baseline for "bad punishments."
Quote from: PenFoe on March 01, 2016, 04:28:23 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 01, 2016, 03:54:52 PM
30 game suspension for Chapman seem fair?
Really tricky situation since Manfred can't just rule arbitrarily like Goodell does in the NFL, but I'd say almost 20% of the season despite no actual police charges seems about as far as they could reasonably go without serious pushback from the union.
Was just talking about this on Slack.
Ray Rice's initial 2 game suspension (which was roundly and rightfully criticized) was only 6% less of the season (12.5% vs. 18.5%) so that doesn't feel anymore justice has been done.
Sure, there was video for Ray Rice, but we all know the deal now, we shouldn't need video.
I get the differences in player association and CBA rules, but seems light to me, if we want to use Ray Rice as a baseline for "bad punishments."
Fair enough. Probably makes a difference that Chapman was never charged with anything and Rice was actually found guilty by a court of law.
The real test will be how they handle Jose Reyes, as i believe he was arrested and he supposedly threw the victim through a glass door
QuoteThe Marlins have filed a grievance over the $100K salary that the Nationals are allegedly paying former Miami GM/manager Dan Jennings, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports. Jennings joined the Washington front office as a special assistant to GM Mike Rizzo in January after being fired by Miami after the season. Jennings still had three years and $5.8MM remaining on his Marlins contract, including $1.5MM for 2016, and Miami owes Jennings the difference between that $1.5MM figure and his new salary for the 2016 season. The Marlins aren’t pleased about still being on the hook for $1.4MM and they claim their NL East rival is paying Jennings “well below a salary commensurate with his responsibilities,” Jackson writes.
That's hilarious, Nationals. I personally think Jeff Loria should have to pay every single dime of that difference for being such a 'bag. And the Nationals should have made his salary $1. Don't like it? Don't sign guys to long guaranteed deals and get rid of them with three years left then. ("Damn straight." - Mark Buehrle)
The Pirates shutting down the Kyardnulls is a nice start. Even better is Mike Matheny blowing his only challenge of the game on a HBP of Andrew McCutchen in the first inning. Mike's already in midseason form.
Quote from: Eli on February 04, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
While we're at it, BP published their Nationals top-10 prospect list (now with 99% fewer hot takes!).
Quote from: Nats Top 10
Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/90 or later)
1. Bryce Harper
...
Let this sink in for a moment: Bryce Harper will be on the 2018 25U Nationals list.
It's so crazy that he'll be younger than Kris Bryant for at least one more season.
Won't he always be younger than Bryant?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 03, 2016, 05:44:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 04, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
While we're at it, BP published their Nationals top-10 prospect list (now with 99% fewer hot takes!).
Quote from: Nats Top 10
Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/90 or later)
1. Bryce Harper
...
Let this sink in for a moment: Bryce Harper will be on the 2018 25U Nationals list.
It's so crazy that he'll be younger than Kris Bryant for at least one more season.
Won't he always be younger than Bryant?
Yes.
Quote from: Eli on April 03, 2016, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 03, 2016, 05:44:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 04, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 04, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
While we're at it, BP published their Nationals top-10 prospect list (now with 99% fewer hot takes!).
Quote from: Nats Top 10
Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/90 or later)
1. Bryce Harper
...
Let this sink in for a moment: Bryce Harper will be on the 2018 25U Nationals list.
It's so crazy that he'll be younger than Kris Bryant for at least one more season.
Won't he always be younger than Bryant?
Yes.
Chuck was just confirming that he understood your joke.
So, our old friend Dick Mountain is starting tonight for the A's. Napoleon Dynamite imitations for everyone!
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 04, 2016, 03:36:33 PM
So, our old friend Dick Mountain is starting tonight for the A's. Napoleon Dynamite imitations for everyone!
Will he be Rich Hill, or Mitch Hill?
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 04, 2016, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 04, 2016, 03:36:33 PM
So, our old friend Dick Mountain is starting tonight for the A's. Napoleon Dynamite imitations for everyone!
Will he be Rich Hill, or Mitch Hill?
See? This guy gets it.
Quote from: Canadouche on April 04, 2016, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 04, 2016, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 04, 2016, 03:36:33 PM
So, our old friend Dick Mountain is starting tonight for the A's. Napoleon Dynamite imitations for everyone!
Will he be Rich Hill, or Mitch Hill?
See? This guy gets it.
This is like the second time this year I've laughed at a joke from New Kurt.
Quote from: SKO on April 04, 2016, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 04, 2016, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 04, 2016, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 04, 2016, 03:36:33 PM
So, our old friend Dick Mountain is starting tonight for the A's. Napoleon Dynamite imitations for everyone!
Will he be Rich Hill, or Mitch Hill?
See? This guy gets it.
This is like the second time this year I've laughed at a joke from New Kurt.
I was trying to go with the version that was the least mean to Kurt. This is what I get.
Quote from: SKO on April 04, 2016, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on April 04, 2016, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 04, 2016, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 04, 2016, 03:36:33 PM
So, our old friend Dick Mountain is starting tonight for the A's. Napoleon Dynamite imitations for everyone!
Will he be Rich Hill, or Mitch Hill?
See? This guy gets it.
This is like the second time this year I've laughed at a joke from New Kurt.
I'm holding out for Crystal Kurt.
The Rockies' Trevor Story just hit his 3rd HR in his first 3 games, the first in MLB history to do so.
Also, did we ever expect D. J. LeMahieu to be anything more than not quite average? He's been a good player for Colorado. Not regretting it all, just checking in on an LSU alum and former Cub.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:16:15 PM
The Rockies' Trevor Story just hit his 3rd HR in his first 3 games, the first in MLB history to do so.
Also, did we ever expect D. J. LeMahieu to be anything more than not quite average? He's been a good player for Colorado. Not regretting it all, just checking in on an LSU alum and former Cub.
He hasn't been anything more than "not quite average". He's been worth about 1 win per year in his career, which is below average. His batting average gets a huge boost from playing in Colorado (he's hit .317/.363/.418 at home in his career and .253/.295/.326 on the road). If he'd stayed in Chicago he'd have just been Cajun Darwin Barney. Which is better than Ian Stewart, I guess, but that gold glove and that Coors-inflated batting average really make people think he's good, and he's just...not
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:16:15 PM
The Rockies' Trevor Story just hit his 3rd HR in his first 3 games, the first in MLB history to do so.
Also, did we ever expect D. J. LeMahieu to be anything more than not quite average? He's been a good player for Colorado. Not regretting it all, just checking in on an LSU alum and former Cub.
He hasn't been anything more than "not quite average". He's been worth about 1 win per year in his career, which is below average. His batting average gets a huge boost from playing in Colorado (he's hit .317/.363/.418 at home in his career and .253/.295/.326 on the road). If he'd stayed in Chicago he'd have just been Cajun Darwin Barney. Which is better than Ian Stewart, I guess, but that gold glove and that Coors-inflated batting average really make people think he's good, and he's just...not
Making sure I have the timeline right: Ryan Theriot begat Asian Theriot who begat Cajun Barney.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:16:15 PM
The Rockies' Trevor Story just hit his 3rd HR in his first 3 games, the first in MLB history to do so.
4th*
He had 3 in his first 2 games.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP
in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
Quote from: ChuckD on April 06, 2016, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:16:15 PM
The Rockies' Trevor Story just hit his 3rd HR in his first 3 games, the first in MLB history to do so.
4th*
He had 3 in his first 2 games.
Still mad at you, CD.
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
I was hoping I wouldn't hear N**** P****'s name again for the rest of my life. Damn it, SKO.
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
He didn't read what you said the first time, so I don't think this will help either.
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
Is a singular Colorado baseballer a Rockie or a Rocky?
Quote from: Brownie on April 06, 2016, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
Is a singular Colorado baseballer a Rockie or a Rocky?
I'll tell you as soon as you tell me what a singular Minnesota NHL player is.
Quote from: Oleg on April 06, 2016, 11:48:07 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 06, 2016, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
Is a singular Colorado baseballer a Rockie or a Rocky?
I'll tell you as soon as you tell me what a singular Minnesota NHL player is.
Golfer.
Quote from: Oleg on April 06, 2016, 11:48:07 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 06, 2016, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
Is a singular Colorado baseballer a Rockie or a Rocky?
I'll tell you as soon as you tell me what a singular Minnesota NHL player is.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Gene_Wilder_1970.JPG/220px-Gene_Wilder_1970.JPG)
For ruining MLB's precious new time-saving rules, Rob Manfred's gonna have this guy (http://deadspin.com/look-at-this-rookie-pitchers-nutso-windup-1769609001) killed.
Quote from: PANK! on April 07, 2016, 09:38:39 AM
Quote from: Oleg on April 06, 2016, 11:48:07 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 06, 2016, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
Is a singular Colorado baseballer a Rockie or a Rocky?
I'll tell you as soon as you tell me what a singular Minnesota NHL player is.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Gene_Wilder_1970.JPG/220px-Gene_Wilder_1970.JPG)
Haha. Nice.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 06, 2016, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
I was hoping I wouldn't hear N**** P****'s name again for the rest of my life. Damn it, SKO.
Negro Please?
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 11:29:43 AM
For ruining MLB's precious new time-saving rules, Rob Manfred's gonna have this guy (http://deadspin.com/look-at-this-rookie-pitchers-nutso-windup-1769609001) killed.
I don't know him. But after watching that, I hate him.
Quote from: Brownie on April 07, 2016, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 07, 2016, 11:29:43 AM
For ruining MLB's precious new time-saving rules, Rob Manfred's gonna have this guy (http://deadspin.com/look-at-this-rookie-pitchers-nutso-windup-1769609001) killed.
I don't know him. But after watching that, I hate him.
Who was the guy on the dodgers all those years ago? They called him the Flamingo? Was in Niedenfuer?
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2016, 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 06, 2016, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 06, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 06, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Gold Glove defense and a .358 OBP last year isn't worth a shit huh?
A .358 OBP in Colorado, a ballpark that boosts offensive numbers, again, he hasn't hit worth a shit when he's not in that ballpark. In his 3 full years in Colorado his OPS+ is 81 (league average is 100, below is bad), which adjusts both for his position and ballpark factors. He's a useful utility player with a good glove who has only put up good offensive numbers in a ballpark where everyone puts up good offensive numbers. Neifi Perez hit .282 as a Rockie and .257 as anything else.
I was hoping I wouldn't hear N**** P****'s name again for the rest of my life. Damn it, SKO.
Negro Please?
No, me and him are cool.
Starlin is off to a nice start with the Yankees, proving once again that EPSTINK IS TERRIBLE.
MLBTR (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/04/kyle-schwarber-leaves-leg-injury-nathan-lincecum-capuano-brewers.html?fv-home=true):
QuoteFree agent righty Joe Nathan is working out on his home with intentions of a return at some point this year, Jon Heyman of MLB Network tweets.
Sounds dangerous.
Randall Delgado needs to get a fucking move on - this is absolutely dire. What happened to the "shot clock" MLB was supposed to be implementing?
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 08, 2016, 11:01:14 AM
MLBTR (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/04/kyle-schwarber-leaves-leg-injury-nathan-lincecum-capuano-brewers.html?fv-home=true):
QuoteFree agent righty Joe Nathan is working out on his home with intentions of a return at some point this year, Jon Heyman of MLB Network tweets.
Sounds dangerous.
Sounds like a typo.
Quote from: Tonker on April 11, 2016, 03:32:33 AM
Randall Delgado needs to get a fucking move on - this is absolutely dire. What happened to the "shot clock" MLB was supposed to be implementing?
Excruciating.
Someone pointed out on twitter that the Braves as a team only have 3 homers through 14 games and however many innings they've played so far today. I'm sure they'll inevitably hit more dingers eventually, but wow is that shitty. That's a 35 homer pace for an entire season.
I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs (for a full season anyway, there were obviously some weak totals during the 81 strike season)
When the Braves tank, they really tank.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs
Holy shit, that's with Nate Colbert hitting 24 and Ollie Brown hitting 20.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Someone pointed out on twitter that the Braves as a team only have 3 homers through 14 games and however many innings they've played so far today. I'm sure they'll inevitably hit more dingers eventually, but wow is that shitty. That's a 35 homer pace for an entire season.
I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs (for a full season anyway, there were obviously some weak totals during the 81 strike season)
When the Braves tank, they really tank.
1979 Houston Astros: 49
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1979.shtml
Quote from: Yeti on April 21, 2016, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Someone pointed out on twitter that the Braves as a team only have 3 homers through 14 games and however many innings they've played so far today. I'm sure they'll inevitably hit more dingers eventually, but wow is that shitty. That's a 35 homer pace for an entire season.
I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs (for a full season anyway, there were obviously some weak totals during the 81 strike season)
When the Braves tank, they really tank.
1979 Houston Astros: 49
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1979.shtml
Pythagorean Champs, right there. 89 wins. 39-27 in one run games. 20-8 in June despite being outscored 87-90.
Quote from: ChuckD on April 21, 2016, 03:10:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 21, 2016, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Someone pointed out on twitter that the Braves as a team only have 3 homers through 14 games and however many innings they've played so far today. I'm sure they'll inevitably hit more dingers eventually, but wow is that shitty. That's a 35 homer pace for an entire season.
I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs (for a full season anyway, there were obviously some weak totals during the 81 strike season)
When the Braves tank, they really tank.
1979 Houston Astros: 49
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1979.shtml
Pythagorean Champs, right there. 89 wins. 39-27 in one run games. 20-8 in June despite being outscored 87-90.
Holy shit. 89 wins despite being dead last in the NL in runs at 3.6 per game. Good pull, Yeti.
Current projected win totals for AL teams via Fangraphs (http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx)(I rounded up):
Red Sox 87
Indians 87
White Sox 84
Blue Jays 84
Orioles 83
Astros 83
Royals 82
Mariners 82
Yankees 81
A's 81
Tigers 80
Rays 80
Rangers 78
Angels 78
Twins 74
Every team but the poor Twins has at least a 15.5% chance of making the playoffs. No one is currently sitting higher than 66.6% (vs the NL, where the Nationals, Mets, Cubs, and Dodgers are all looking at 83-96%).
This should be fun to monitor all year long. All hail sweet, sweet chaos.
For the low, low price of $206 million, two top prospects, and a 3-5 WAR outfielder, the Diamondbacks got Zack Greinke and Shelby Miller this offseason.
So far the two have combined for 10 starts, 50.1 IP, a 1.66 WHIP, 11 homers allowed, just 40 strikeouts, 21 walks (15 of them by Miller in just 19.2 innings), and a combined ERA of 7.19. Neither of them can even really cry the bad luck excuse, Greinke's FIP is 4.24 and Miller's is 7.73. They're just getting the shit kicked out of them.
Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.
Remember that time the Braves asked for Bryant for him? that was awesome.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 27, 2016, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.
Remember that time the Braves asked for Bryant for him? that was awesome.
It's fun to laugh at them for that but I'm guessing every GM the Cubs have called for any trades for a top flight starting pitcher probably asks for Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, etc. You'd be dumb not to ask. Obviously they had to start with a high asking price in order to get the deal they got from the Diamondbacks.
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 11:17:56 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 27, 2016, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.
Remember that time the Braves asked for Bryant for him? that was awesome.
It's fun to laugh at them for that but I'm guessing every GM the Cubs have called for any trades for a top flight starting pitcher probably asks for Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, etc. You'd be dumb not to ask. Obviously they had to start with a high asking price in order to get the deal they got from the Diamondbacks.
I'm pretty sure any GM who calls Jepstink asks for Arrieta/Bryant/Rizzo as an icebreaker for a laugh, just like Jepstink might ask Billy Epler for Trout. But it sounded at the time like the Braves weren't joking, and there was no way the Cubs were trading 7 wins for 3.
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
For the low, low price of $206 million, two top prospects, and a 3-5 WAR outfielder, the Diamondbacks got Zack Greinke and Shelby Miller this offseason.
So far the two have combined for 10 starts, 50.1 IP, a 1.66 WHIP, 11 homers allowed, just 40 strikeouts, 21 walks (15 of them by Miller in just 19.2 innings), and a combined ERA of 7.19. Neither of them can even really cry the bad luck excuse, Greinke's FIP is 4.24 and Miller's is 7.73. They're just getting the shit kicked out of them.
Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.
nice choice jim
This book looks like it's gonna be a fun read. (http://deadspin.com/how-two-online-baseball-writers-won-an-indie-league-dra-1774112996)
DPD. Garrett Richards needs Tommy John. Andrew Heaney might. CJ Wilson is already hurt, and the Angels look like they might be done. Looking over their roster, it's pretty much nothing but hot garbage, a few solid but unspectacular pieces, and Mike Trout. If anyone's ever going to pry him loose, now might be the time.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 04, 2016, 07:13:23 PM
This book looks like it's gonna be a fun read. (http://deadspin.com/how-two-online-baseball-writers-won-an-indie-league-dra-1774112996)
I wanted more out of that excerpt. Can't wait for it.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 06, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
DPD. Garrett Richards needs Tommy John. Andrew Heaney might. CJ Wilson is already hurt, and the Angels look like they might be done. Looking over their roster, it's pretty much nothing but hot garbage, a few solid but unspectacular pieces, and Mike Trout. If anyone's ever going to pry him loose, now might be the time.
I thought about this and then thought of something else...I think, with their payroll, they need to trot trout out there all year long. After this season, they can be resigned to getting Richards back around the All-Star break. They'll have Weaver and Wilson coming off the books and Hamilton the year after that. That's going to leave them with plenty of coin to throw around at the AMAZING, TOTALLY UNBLELIEVABLE free agent classes in the coming years.
So...probably not? I don't know.
Quote from: Oleg on May 06, 2016, 02:22:16 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 06, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
DPD. Garrett Richards needs Tommy John. Andrew Heaney might. CJ Wilson is already hurt, and the Angels look like they might be done. Looking over their roster, it's pretty much nothing but hot garbage, a few solid but unspectacular pieces, and Mike Trout. If anyone's ever going to pry him loose, now might be the time.
I thought about this and then thought of something else...I think, with their payroll, they need to trot trout out there all year long. After this season, they can be resigned to getting Richards back around the All-Star break. They'll have Weaver and Wilson coming off the books and Hamilton the year after that. That's going to leave them with plenty of coin to throw around at the AMAZING, TOTALLY UNBLELIEVABLE free agent classes in the coming years.
So...probably not? I don't know.
Counterpoint: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-garrett-richards-injury-and-the-mike-trout-question/
Aroldis Chapman helpfully confirms he's a piece of shit.
Quote
"It was just an argument with your partner that everyone has. I've even argued with my mother."
"Let he who has not grabbed a firearm during a respectful domestic dispute and wildly blasted eight holes into the wall cast the first stone."
Quote
"When you are not in agreement with someone, we Latin people are loud when we argue."
We argue with our gunshots!
The Braves are like the Bizarro Cubs. They're 9 and 28; the Cubs are 27 and 9.
We should, at the very least, have this .GIF in this thread for posterity's sake.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/dzytltukqx096x7lbsyd.GIF)
Jays fans aren't particularly enamored by Texas. I sincerely hope both teams make the playoffs so Toronto can bury them again.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 17, 2016, 11:28:12 AM
We should, at the very least, have this .GIF in this thread for posterity's sake.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/dzytltukqx096x7lbsyd.GIF)
Bautista definitely fades out for a brief second there, right after the punch lands.
It's crazy when you think about what poor fighting position Bautista was in there. That's like Rocky level piss poor protection of one's grill. I wonder if he figured Odor wouldn't try to hit him with the helmet on or something. Jesus. If Odor had bothered to drop his mitt, he could have KO'd his ass. The left uppercut was all you can eat.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 17, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
It's crazy when you think about what poor fighting position Bautista was in there. That's like Rocky level piss poor protection of one's grill. I wonder if he figured Odor wouldn't try to hit him with the helmet on or something. Jesus. If Odor had bothered to drop his mitt, he could have KO'd his ass. The left uppercut was all you can eat.
Well Bautista was expecting Standard Basebrawl Protocol where everyone plays "HOLD ME BACK BRO" and no one not named Kyle Farnsworth actually hits anyone.
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 17, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
It's crazy when you think about what poor fighting position Bautista was in there. That's like Rocky level piss poor protection of one's grill. I wonder if he figured Odor wouldn't try to hit him with the helmet on or something. Jesus. If Odor had bothered to drop his mitt, he could have KO'd his ass. The left uppercut was all you can eat.
Well Bautista was expecting Standard Basebrawl Protocol where everyone plays "HOLD ME BACK BRO" and no one not named Kyle Farnsworth actually hits anyone.
I was going to write "What baseball player (especially a pitcher) with half a brain would risk breaking his hand and possibly ending his career by hitting someone anyplace other than in a soft belly?" I think that we have discovered a baseball player with less than half a brain.
Quote from: CBStew on May 17, 2016, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 17, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
It's crazy when you think about what poor fighting position Bautista was in there. That's like Rocky level piss poor protection of one's grill. I wonder if he figured Odor wouldn't try to hit him with the helmet on or something. Jesus. If Odor had bothered to drop his mitt, he could have KO'd his ass. The left uppercut was all you can eat.
Well Bautista was expecting Standard Basebrawl Protocol where everyone plays "HOLD ME BACK BRO" and no one not named Kyle Farnsworth actually hits anyone.
I was going to write "What baseball player (especially a pitcher) with half a brain would risk breaking his hand and possibly ending his career by hitting someone anyplace other than in a soft belly?" I think that we have discovered a baseball player with less than half a brain.
I saw a tweet from a scout on MLB Network on Sunday that said Odor had a reputation in the minors as a guy you did NOT want to throw hands with. That scouting report has been validated. Small sample size be damned, Odor is a bad dude.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 17, 2016, 05:10:54 PM
Quote from: CBStew on May 17, 2016, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 17, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
It's crazy when you think about what poor fighting position Bautista was in there. That's like Rocky level piss poor protection of one's grill. I wonder if he figured Odor wouldn't try to hit him with the helmet on or something. Jesus. If Odor had bothered to drop his mitt, he could have KO'd his ass. The left uppercut was all you can eat.
Well Bautista was expecting Standard Basebrawl Protocol where everyone plays "HOLD ME BACK BRO" and no one not named Kyle Farnsworth actually hits anyone.
I was going to write "What baseball player (especially a pitcher) with half a brain would risk breaking his hand and possibly ending his career by hitting someone anyplace other than in a soft belly?" I think that we have discovered a baseball player with less than half a brain.
I saw a tweet from a scout on MLB Network on Sunday that said Odor had a reputation in the minors as a guy you did NOT want to throw hands with. That scouting report has been validated. Small sample size be damned, Odor is a bad dude.
Affirmed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5eZJWMELo).
Quote from: Shooter on May 17, 2016, 06:58:55 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 17, 2016, 05:10:54 PM
Quote from: CBStew on May 17, 2016, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 17, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 17, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
It's crazy when you think about what poor fighting position Bautista was in there. That's like Rocky level piss poor protection of one's grill. I wonder if he figured Odor wouldn't try to hit him with the helmet on or something. Jesus. If Odor had bothered to drop his mitt, he could have KO'd his ass. The left uppercut was all you can eat.
Well Bautista was expecting Standard Basebrawl Protocol where everyone plays "HOLD ME BACK BRO" and no one not named Kyle Farnsworth actually hits anyone.
I was going to write "What baseball player (especially a pitcher) with half a brain would risk breaking his hand and possibly ending his career by hitting someone anyplace other than in a soft belly?" I think that we have discovered a baseball player with less than half a brain.
I saw a tweet from a scout on MLB Network on Sunday that said Odor had a reputation in the minors as a guy you did NOT want to throw hands with. That scouting report has been validated. Small sample size be damned, Odor is a bad dude.
Affirmed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5eZJWMELo).
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I will go to the grave defending Jake Arrieta's Cy Young last year as legitimate, but Clayton Kershaw is still the best pitcher in the game and holy fucking shit these numbers: 3.4 fWAR already, 1.67 ERA, 1.37 FIP, 88-4 K:BB. EIGHTY EIGHT TO FOUR
Where does Rich Hill rank in the history of improbably major league comebacks?
"Remarkable" is far too light a word for what's going on here.
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I will go to the grave defending Jake Arrieta's Cy Young last year as legitimate, but Clayton Kershaw is still the best pitcher in the game and holy fucking shit these numbers: 3.4 fWAR already, 1.67 ERA, 1.37 FIP, 88-4 K:BB. EIGHTY EIGHT TO FOUR
Over the last two calendar years, Jake has a 1.95 ERA and has gone 39-11 over 63 starts.
And he's trailing Kershaw by 5 wins. (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2016&month=11&season1=2016&ind=0&team=&rost=&age=0&filter=&players=)
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I will go to the grave defending Jake Arrieta's Cy Young last year as legitimate, but Clayton Kershaw is still the best pitcher in the game and holy fucking shit these numbers: 3.4 fWAR already, 1.67 ERA, 1.37 FIP, 88-4 K:BB. EIGHTY EIGHT TO FOUR
Over the last two calendar years, Jake has a 1.95 ERA and has gone 39-11 over 63 starts.
And he's trailing Kershaw by 5 wins. (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2016&month=11&season1=2016&ind=0&team=&rost=&age=0&filter=&players=)
I actually do think the metrics are underrating Jake a little bit, especially this year. I know DIPS theory and all that, but if there's one guy who actually does appear to be able to control what happens to baseballs put in play against him, it's Jake. He generates a shit ton of weak contact and he just keeps doing it, so I think he gets a little underrated by the fact that all of the advanced stats are obsessed with strikeouts (although to be fair his walk rate this year is definitely not helping). Like that stupid Deserved Run Average or whatever it is BP tried to make happen that had him barely in the top 20 pitchers in baseball. Fuck that.
That said Kershaw is still clearly better, I just think there are exceptions to rules, and Jake is definitely one of the few for whom pitching to contact is arguably better than generating whiffs.
I kind of feel like Jake pitching to contact is hurting him. I wonder if that's the reason why he's walking more players. I could be off-base, but the increased walk totals worry me a bit, as worried as I'd get about a pitcher as dominating as Jake.
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I kind of feel like Jake pitching to contact is hurting him. I wonder if that's the reason why he's walking more players. I could be off-base, but the increased walk totals worry me a bit, as worried as I'd get about a pitcher as dominating as Jake.
Last year Jake walked at least 3 batters in 7 starts, he walked 6 in one start against the Indians. He struggles with command from time to time, he's just unhittable so it doesn't really matter. He had a 3.40 ERA on June 16th after that 6 BB start against Cleveland, actually, and then he went off. The fact that he's still allowing very few hits and has kept his ERA under 2.00 while doing so is really impressive and actually indicates he might be even better than last year.
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I kind of feel like Jake pitching to contact is hurting him. I wonder if that's the reason why he's walking more players. I could be off-base, but the increased walk totals worry me a bit, as worried as I'd get about a pitcher as dominating as Jake.
His ERA is half a run lower than the one that got him a Cy Young Award.
Jake Arrieta is literally the least of my concerns about the Cubs in 2016.
I hate to be That Guy... (wait for it... wait for it...) BUT...
He's also been getting squeezed like a motherfucker here lately. Especially early. Or to my eye, at least. I'm not saying he hasn't been below his own standard with his command too, because he has. But he's also been getting put behind the eight ball in the first couple innings because he can't get borderline strikes called to save his damn life for some reason, and it's been leading to those 20+ pitch first innings and whatnot. And I'm not only a little ashamed to admit that I've got a serious case of the red ass about it.
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I hate to be That Guy... (wait for it... wait for it...) BUT...
He's also been getting squeezed like a motherfucker here lately. Especially early. Or to my eye, at least. I'm not saying he hasn't been below his own standard with his command too, because he has. But he's also been getting put behind the eight ball in the first couple innings because he can't get borderline strikes called to save his damn life for some reason, and it's been leading to those 20+ pitch first innings and whatnot. And I'm not only a little ashamed to admit that I've got a serious case of the red ass about it.
Has Morph started creating internet characters now?
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I hate to be That Guy... (wait for it... wait for it...) BUT...
He's also been getting squeezed like a motherfucker here lately. Especially early. Or to my eye, at least. I'm not saying he hasn't been below his own standard with his command too, because he has. But he's also been getting put behind the eight ball in the first couple innings because he can't get borderline strikes called to save his damn life for some reason, and it's been leading to those 20+ pitch first innings and whatnot. And I'm not only a little ashamed to admit that I've got a serious case of the red ass about it.
Has Morph started creating internet characters now?
He didn't mention anything about the broadcasters CLEARLY having it out for Jake and the Cubs a well, so I'm guessing no.
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Clearly SKO thinks I might be a woman with a Twitter posse, and therefore is treading lightly.
Anyway, I'm not saying it's a conspiracy or anything. I just think Jake has run into some bad luck with called strikes lately, and it's running his pitch count up early. Not to mention that it can't not be frustrating, even for someone as ice cold as Jake. I can still be pissed off about it even if it isn't some kind of dastardly effort to intentionally screw Jake over.
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
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Clearly SKO thinks I might be a woman with a Twitter posse, and therefore is treading lightly.
Anyway, I'm not saying it's a conspiracy or anything. I just think Jake has run into some bad luck with called strikes lately, and it's running his pitch count up early. Not to mention that it can't not be frustrating, even for someone as ice cold as Jake. I can still be pissed off about it even if it isn't some kind of dastardly effort to intentionally screw Jake over.
He's been moosedenied
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's
quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He
gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
Of course that's the part you focus on.
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
Of course that's the part you focus on.
His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
Of course that's the part you focus on.
His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?
Because it's entirely possible he's fixable, and 9 starts don't define a career? I mean, I don't want to defend the guy, I absolutely hope he's done because fuck him and fuck the Mets, but "nobody would trade for him" is laughable. A guy with his track record and potential? Somebody would take a chance on him. For fuck's sake the Cubs reigning Cy Young winner had a 5.46 ERA in 63 starts and still netted a middle of the rotation starter in a trade.
People will always gamble on a guy like that finding his shit again.
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File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
Of course that's the part you focus on.
His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?
Because it's entirely possible he's fixable, and 9 starts don't define a career? I mean, I don't want to defend the guy, I absolutely hope he's done because fuck him and fuck the Mets, but "nobody would trade for him" is laughable. A guy with his track record and potential? Somebody would take a chance on him. For fuck's sake the Cubs reigning Cy Young winner had a 5.46 ERA in 63 starts and still netted a middle of the rotation starter in a trade.
People will always gamble on a guy like that finding his shit again.
Matt Cain and Jake Peavy are pitching against the Cubs this weekend. In 2016 after years of being TERRIBLE, they are in the rotation for a team that is supposed to make the postseason.
Christ, TIM LINCECUM just got a new deal. JOE NATHAN is back in baseball again.
Fork you are wrong on this one.
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Quote from: Canadouche on May 19, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
Of course that's the part you focus on.
His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?
Because it's entirely possible he's fixable, and 9 starts don't define a career? I mean, I don't want to defend the guy, I absolutely hope he's done because fuck him and fuck the Mets, but "nobody would trade for him" is laughable. A guy with his track record and potential? Somebody would take a chance on him. For fuck's sake the Cubs reigning Cy Young winner had a 5.46 ERA in 63 starts and still netted a middle of the rotation starter in a trade.
People will always gamble on a guy like that finding his shit again.
Matt Cain and Jake Peavy are pitching against the Cubs this weekend. In 2016 after years of being TERRIBLE, they are in the rotation for a team that is supposed to make the postseason.
Christ, TIM LINCECUM just got a new deal. JOE NATHAN is back in baseball again.
Fork you are wrong on this one.
Regular, old wrong doesn't do it. This is aggressively wrong.
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Quote from: Canadouche on May 19, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
Of course that's the part you focus on.
His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?
Because it's entirely possible he's fixable, and 9 starts don't define a career? I mean, I don't want to defend the guy, I absolutely hope he's done because fuck him and fuck the Mets, but "nobody would trade for him" is laughable. A guy with his track record and potential? Somebody would take a chance on him. For fuck's sake the Cubs reigning Cy Young winner had a 5.46 ERA in 63 starts and still netted a middle of the rotation starter in a trade.
People will always gamble on a guy like that finding his shit again.
Matt Cain and Jake Peavy are pitching against the Cubs this weekend. In 2016 after years of being TERRIBLE, they are in the rotation for a team that is supposed to make the postseason.
Christ, TIM LINCECUM just got a new deal. JOE NATHAN is back in baseball again.
Fork you are wrong on this one.
Regular, old wrong doesn't do it. This is aggressively wrong.
Also Harvey's FIP is 3.66. As long as this outing and the reports on his velocity drop don't mindfuck him so hard he loses all confidence in his spots, he'll be fine. Maybe not dominant but more than serviceable.
Maybe Fork is just feeling optimistic about Harvey's collapsing career.
"No one in baseball would trade for Matt Harvey after 6 mediocre weeks" is probably just about the wrongest thing Fork has ever said.
Quote from: Eli on May 20, 2016, 11:12:15 AM
"No one in baseball would trade for Matt Harvey after 6 mediocre weeks" is probably just about the wrongest thing Fork has ever said.
Yeah, its putting Matt Bush in charge of a St Louis carpool wrong.
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Quote from: Canadouche on May 19, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
Of course that's the part you focus on.
His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?
Because it's entirely possible he's fixable, and 9 starts don't define a career? I mean, I don't want to defend the guy, I absolutely hope he's done because fuck him and fuck the Mets, but "nobody would trade for him" is laughable. A guy with his track record and potential? Somebody would take a chance on him. For fuck's sake the Cubs reigning Cy Young winner had a 5.46 ERA in 63 starts and still netted a middle of the rotation starter in a trade.
People will always gamble on a guy like that finding his shit again.
Arrieta is a terrible comparison. The book on him was that he had great stuff, and just needed to put it together. Harvey has lost velocity, so he has less stuff than he used to have.
If there's one thing the Internet has taught me, it's that when you're aggressively wrong, it's time to double down.
*que terrible Gil meme about the KFC double down*
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Quote from: Canadouche on May 19, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.
I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.
To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.
And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.
Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.
Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.
What an odious man he is.
Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.
A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0
What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?
Of course that's the part you focus on.
His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?
Because it's entirely possible he's fixable, and 9 starts don't define a career? I mean, I don't want to defend the guy, I absolutely hope he's done because fuck him and fuck the Mets, but "nobody would trade for him" is laughable. A guy with his track record and potential? Somebody would take a chance on him. For fuck's sake the Cubs reigning Cy Young winner had a 5.46 ERA in 63 starts and still netted a middle of the rotation starter in a trade.
People will always gamble on a guy like that finding his shit again.
Arrieta is a terrible comparison. The book on him was that he had great stuff, and just needed to put it together. Harvey has lost velocity, so he has less stuff than he used to have.
Quote from: Bort on May 20, 2016, 11:36:21 AM
If there's one thing the Internet has taught me, it's that when you're aggressively wrong, it's time to double down.
*que terrible Gil meme about the KFC double down*
Holy fuckballs I was just DOUBLEDOWNFACED by Bort.
Holy fuckballs, I was almost DOUBLEDOWNFACEFACED by Huey.
I fucking love this messageboard.
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Holy fuckballs, I was almost DOUBLEDOWNFACEFACED by Huey.
Probably the 2nd greatest FACE in the history of this messageboard.
http://desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7056.msg223573#msg223573
(http://i.imgur.com/Row5jGX.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/Row5jGX.jpg)
Thanks, PenFork.
It's not even the end of May and Clayton Kershaw has been worth 4 wins already (f or b; BR has him at just north of 3).
That seems 'holy shit is that amazing' good. Is it? I mean, holy shit is that amazing.
Quote from: Oleg on May 25, 2016, 08:42:31 AM
It's not even the end of May and Clayton Kershaw has been worth 4 wins already (f or b; BR has him at just north of 3).
That seems 'holy shit is that amazing' good. Is it? I mean, holy shit is that amazing.
Meh. They can finish third with or without him.
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Quote from: Oleg on May 25, 2016, 08:42:31 AM
It's not even the end of May and Clayton Kershaw has been worth 4 wins already (f or b; BR has him at just north of 3).
That seems 'holy shit is that amazing' good. Is it? I mean, holy shit is that amazing.
Meh. They can finish third with or without him.
Looking forward to see how much of a ding Friedman takes in Chuck's datase if his $200+ million dollar team wins 79 games, with Kershaw being worth 10 wins by himself.
I want the Dodgers/Mets to be the wildcards. Kershaw narrowly outduels Syndegaard, and then the Cubs win the NLDS over them in 4 games with Kershaw's meaningless game 3 victory the only Dodgers highlight as the Cubs crush Kenta Maeda and their revolving door of #4 starters.
Then the Cubs take down the Giants in the NLCS, scoring 6 runs off Snork in 3 1/3 to clinch the pennant.
Matt Harvey still sucks.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 25, 2016, 09:46:47 AM
Matt Harvey still sucks.
I believe his problems are mechanical and fixable. If I were you I wouldn't ride this donkey much longer.
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Matt Harvey still sucks.
I believe his problems are mechanical and fixable. If I were you I wouldn't ride this donkey much longer.
I don't even care if they are mechanical and fixable, I hope he sucks, the hill Fork chose to die on was that the Mets "couldn't move him if they tried", so we can all laugh heartily at him when Harvey's traded in the offseason, regardless of the package.
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Matt Harvey still sucks.
I believe his problems are mechanical and fixable. If I were you I wouldn't ride this donkey much longer.
I dunno...I kinda like the notion of one ass riding another.
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 25, 2016, 09:46:47 AM
Matt Harvey still sucks.
I believe his problems are mechanical and fixable. If I were you I wouldn't ride this donkey much longer.
I dunno...I kinda like the notion of one ass riding another.
You're too big for either of us.
Moustakas out for the year, Gordon has a broken hand.
The Royals are boned.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 27, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
Moustakas out for the year, Gordon has a broken hand.
The Royals are boned.
If the Devil Magic has truly abandoned St. Louis and moved their way I expect Cheslor Cuthbert to hit .324 the rest of the way as they win the Central with 84 wins after the White Sox continue their nose dive and everyone in Cleveland's rotation gets hurt again.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 27, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
Moustakas out for the year, Gordon has a broken hand.
The Royals are boned.
It's all there for Cleveland.
Orioles first round draft pick Cody Sedlock is from the town where I went to high school. I know his sister and his cousin. His cousin screwed our biology teacher junior year and he got fired. She was not the most stable person.
Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Orioles first round draft pick Cody Sedlock is from the town where I went to high school. I know his sister and his cousin. His cousin screwed our biology teacher junior year and he got fired. She was not the most stable person.
Was there any defecation on the chest involved?
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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Orioles first round draft pick Cody Sedlock is from the town where I went to high school. I know his sister and his cousin. His cousin screwed our biology teacher junior year and he got fired. She was not the most stable person.
Was there any defecation on the chest involved?
uhh....not that I know of?
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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Orioles first round draft pick Cody Sedlock is from the town where I went to high school. I know his sister and his cousin. His cousin screwed our biology teacher junior year and he got fired. She was not the most stable person.
Was there any defecation on the chest involved?
uhh....not that I know of?
You don't recall that story you told us of the Sherrard HS volleyball teacher?
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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Orioles first round draft pick Cody Sedlock is from the town where I went to high school. I know his sister and his cousin. His cousin screwed our biology teacher junior year and he got fired. She was not the most stable person.
Was there any defecation on the chest involved?
uhh....not that I know of?
You don't recall that story you told us of the Sherrard HS volleyball teacher?
Oh that's where that came from. You got it all messed up man, she was the softball coach, not the volleyball coach, and there were no dumps on chests. She just had IBS, and there was supposedly accidental dumpage during sex with the football coach. Then she and the basketball coach were later fired for sexing during the school day in one of the storage rooms behind the gym.
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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Orioles first round draft pick Cody Sedlock is from the town where I went to high school. I know his sister and his cousin. His cousin screwed our biology teacher junior year and he got fired. She was not the most stable person.
Was there any defecation on the chest involved?
uhh....not that I know of?
You don't recall that story you told us of the Sherrard HS volleyball teacher?
Oh that's where that came from. You got it all messed up man, she was the softball coach, not the volleyball coach, and there were no dumps on chests. She just had IBS, and there was supposedly accidental dumpage during sex with the football coach. Then she and the basketball coach were later fired for sexing during the school day in one of the storage rooms behind the gym.
Yea, that's right. I got like 1 fact right!
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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Orioles first round draft pick Cody Sedlock is from the town where I went to high school. I know his sister and his cousin. His cousin screwed our biology teacher junior year and he got fired. She was not the most stable person.
Was there any defecation on the chest involved?
uhh....not that I know of?
You don't recall that story you told us of the Sherrard HS volleyball teacher?
Oh that's where that came from. You got it all messed up man, she was the softball coach, not the volleyball coach, and there were no dumps on chests. She just had IBS, and there was supposedly accidental dumpage during sex with the football coach. Then she and the basketball coach were later fired for sexing during the school day in one of the storage rooms behind the gym.
What's in the water supply under your town?
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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Orioles first round draft pick Cody Sedlock is from the town where I went to high school. I know his sister and his cousin. His cousin screwed our biology teacher junior year and he got fired. She was not the most stable person.
Was there any defecation on the chest involved?
uhh....not that I know of?
You don't recall that story you told us of the Sherrard HS volleyball teacher?
Oh that's where that came from. You got it all messed up man, she was the softball coach, not the volleyball coach, and there were no dumps on chests. She just had IBS, and there was supposedly accidental dumpage during sex with the football coach. Then she and the basketball coach were later fired for sexing during the school day in one of the storage rooms behind the gym.
What's in the water supply under your town?
My guess is a lot of lead.
Anybody else noticed that Matt Bush - No. 1 draft pick in 2004 (!) - is out of prison after three years or so and pitching pretty well for the Rangers? It would be nice to think he'd got his life on track even if he has pissed away his prime.
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2016, 03:13:52 AM
Anybody else noticed that Matt Bush - No. 1 draft pick in 2004 (!) - is out of prison after three years or so and pitching pretty well for the Rangers? It would be nice to think he'd got his life on track even if he has pissed away his prime.
Yes.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2016, 10:46:37 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2016, 03:13:52 AM
Anybody else noticed that Matt Bush - No. 1 draft pick in 2004 (!) - is out of prison after three years or so and pitching pretty well for the Rangers? It would be nice to think he'd got his life on track even if he has pissed away his prime.
Yes.
Yes
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2016, 03:13:52 AM
Anybody else noticed that Matt Bush - No. 1 draft pick in 2004 (!) - is out of prison after three years or so and pitching pretty well for the Rangers? It would be nice to think he'd got his life on track even if he has pissed away his prime.
Wait...are you just noticing this now? He was squarely in the middle of the whole Odor/Bautista thing a few weeks ago.
I'm not sure where else to put this. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/tim-tebow-pursuing-baseball-career-to-hold-workout-for-mlb-teams.html)
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 07:46:08 AM
I'm not sure where else to put this. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/tim-tebow-pursuing-baseball-career-to-hold-workout-for-mlb-teams.html)
All those interceptions are a pretty good indication that he'll have no issue hitting the cutoff man.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 09, 2016, 08:08:38 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 07:46:08 AM
I'm not sure where else to put this. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/tim-tebow-pursuing-baseball-career-to-hold-workout-for-mlb-teams.html)
All those interceptions are a pretty good indication that he'll have no issue hitting the cutoff man.
I followed the link and it says Tim Tebow is "'actively pursuing' a baseball outfielder." That's so cute. Why isn't this a bigger story?
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 09, 2016, 08:08:38 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 07:46:08 AM
I'm not sure where else to put this. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/tim-tebow-pursuing-baseball-career-to-hold-workout-for-mlb-teams.html)
All those interceptions are a pretty good indication that he'll have no issue hitting the cutoff man.
Didn't a guy named Michael Jordan try this with a semi-pro or minor league team?
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 09, 2016, 08:08:38 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 07:46:08 AM
I'm not sure where else to put this. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/tim-tebow-pursuing-baseball-career-to-hold-workout-for-mlb-teams.html)
All those interceptions are a pretty good indication that he'll have no issue hitting the cutoff man.
MLB should come up with a baseball interception just for Tim
Quote from: CBStew on August 09, 2016, 03:44:00 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 09, 2016, 08:08:38 AM
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 07:46:08 AM
I'm not sure where else to put this. (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/tim-tebow-pursuing-baseball-career-to-hold-workout-for-mlb-teams.html)
All those interceptions are a pretty good indication that he'll have no issue hitting the cutoff man.
Didn't a guy named Michael Jordan try this with a semi-pro or minor league team?
Please do not compare the careers of Michael Jordan and Tim Tebow. It hurts my feelings.
Dodgers fans aren't very bright. They boo their own pitcher for stepping off the rubber with a runner on, and they care more about trying to hit a crowd beach ball (and keeping up with the wave) than watching the game. Truly a weird baseball experience.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 27, 2016, 12:03:02 AM
Dodgers fans aren't very bright. They boo their own pitcher for stepping off the rubber with a runner on, and they care more about trying to hit a crowd beach ball (and keeping up with the wave) than watching the game. Truly a weird baseball experience.
They have to have something to do before they leave in the top of the 7th to beat the freeway traffic.
Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2016, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 27, 2016, 12:03:02 AM
Dodgers fans aren't very bright. They boo their own pitcher for stepping off the rubber with a runner on, and they care more about trying to hit a crowd beach ball (and keeping up with the wave) than watching the game. Truly a weird baseball experience.
They have to have something to do before they leave in the top of the 7th to kill a guy in the parking lot.
FIFY
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 27, 2016, 05:00:07 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 27, 2016, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 27, 2016, 12:03:02 AM
Dodgers fans aren't very bright. They boo their own pitcher for stepping off the rubber with a runner on, and they care more about trying to hit a crowd beach ball (and keeping up with the wave) than watching the game. Truly a weird baseball experience.
They have to have something to do before they leave in the top of the 7th to kill a guy in the parking lot.
FIFY
Oh, I don't know. Maybe that's what he gets for wearing the other team's hat.
Nothing would make me happier than to learn the Cubs were one of the reported three teams not to show up to Tim Tebow's workout.
Fun fact: Tebow is two years older than Jason Heyward.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 30, 2016, 03:25:30 PM
Nothing would make me happier than to learn the Cubs were one of the reported three teams not to show up to Tim Tebow's workout.
Fun fact: Tebow is two years older than Jason Heyward.
I think I saw on Twitter (Rosenthal?) that the Cubs were one of the three.
Fun fact: people citing his success hitting HS pitching over a decade ago as proof he could be a pro baseball player also ignore his successful collegiate football career not making him a pro quarterback worth a damn.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 30, 2016, 05:07:21 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 30, 2016, 03:25:30 PM
Nothing would make me happier than to learn the Cubs were one of the reported three teams not to show up to Tim Tebow's workout.
Fun fact: Tebow is two years older than Jason Heyward.
I think I saw on Twitter (Rosenthal?) that the Cubs were one of the three.
Fun fact: people citing his success hitting HS pitching over a decade ago as proof he could be a pro baseball player also ignore his successful collegiate football career not making him a pro quarterback worth a damn.
Confirmed. (https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/770761376767807488) Cubs and A's are the only smart teams, apparently.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 31, 2016, 12:21:13 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 30, 2016, 05:07:21 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 30, 2016, 03:25:30 PM
Nothing would make me happier than to learn the Cubs were one of the reported three teams not to show up to Tim Tebow's workout.
Fun fact: Tebow is two years older than Jason Heyward.
I think I saw on Twitter (Rosenthal?) that the Cubs were one of the three.
Fun fact: people citing his success hitting HS pitching over a decade ago as proof he could be a pro baseball player also ignore his successful collegiate football career not making him a pro quarterback worth a damn.
Confirmed. (https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/770761376767807488) Cubs and A's are the only smart teams, apparently.
Shades of Eddie Gaedel
Quote from: CBStew on August 31, 2016, 03:42:08 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 31, 2016, 12:21:13 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 30, 2016, 05:07:21 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 30, 2016, 03:25:30 PM
Nothing would make me happier than to learn the Cubs were one of the reported three teams not to show up to Tim Tebow's workout.
Fun fact: Tebow is two years older than Jason Heyward.
I think I saw on Twitter (Rosenthal?) that the Cubs were one of the three.
Fun fact: people citing his success hitting HS pitching over a decade ago as proof he could be a pro baseball player also ignore his successful collegiate football career not making him a pro quarterback worth a damn.
Confirmed. (https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/770761376767807488) Cubs and A's are the only smart teams, apparently.
Shades of Eddie Gaedel
Eddie has a career 1.000 OPS.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 31, 2016, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 31, 2016, 03:42:08 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 31, 2016, 12:21:13 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 30, 2016, 05:07:21 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 30, 2016, 03:25:30 PM
Nothing would make me happier than to learn the Cubs were one of the reported three teams not to show up to Tim Tebow's workout.
Fun fact: Tebow is two years older than Jason Heyward.
I think I saw on Twitter (Rosenthal?) that the Cubs were one of the three.
Fun fact: people citing his success hitting HS pitching over a decade ago as proof he could be a pro baseball player also ignore his successful collegiate football career not making him a pro quarterback worth a damn.
Confirmed. (https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/770761376767807488) Cubs and A's are the only smart teams, apparently.
Shades of Eddie Gaedel
Eddie has a career 1.000 OPS.
Although "Baseball" was outraged by what Veeck did, allegedly making a mockery out of our sacred pastime, you have to respect Gaedel. He played the cards that he was dealt and capitalized on them. He reminded us that baseball was an entertainment, not a religion.
Quote from: CBStew on August 31, 2016, 05:47:29 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 31, 2016, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 31, 2016, 03:42:08 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 31, 2016, 12:21:13 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 30, 2016, 05:07:21 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 30, 2016, 03:25:30 PM
Nothing would make me happier than to learn the Cubs were one of the reported three teams not to show up to Tim Tebow's workout.
Fun fact: Tebow is two years older than Jason Heyward.
I think I saw on Twitter (Rosenthal?) that the Cubs were one of the three.
Fun fact: people citing his success hitting HS pitching over a decade ago as proof he could be a pro baseball player also ignore his successful collegiate football career not making him a pro quarterback worth a damn.
Confirmed. (https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/770761376767807488) Cubs and A's are the only smart teams, apparently.
Shades of Eddie Gaedel
Eddie has a career 1.000 OPS.
Although "Baseball" was outraged by what Veeck did, allegedly making a mockery out of our sacred pastime, you have to respect Gaedel. He played the cards that he was dealt and capitalized on them. He reminded us that baseball was an entertainment, not a religion.
Pretty vicious slam on Tebow right here.
Let's all laugh at the Mets for feeding this promotional machine and signing Tebow to a contract.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 08, 2016, 12:27:17 PM
Let's all laugh at the Mets for feeding this promotional machine and signing Tebow to a contract.
That makes two NY teams that will cut him. Hopefully the Islanders and Nets are screening their calls.
How are things going in New York?
(http://i66.tinypic.com/303a3a1.png)
*snort*
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 18, 2016, 03:12:15 PM
How are things going in New York?
(http://i66.tinypic.com/303a3a1.png)
*snort*
It would be funnier if Gary Sanchez wasn't going to catch him before the season.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 18, 2016, 08:33:07 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 18, 2016, 03:12:15 PM
How are things going in New York?
(http://i66.tinypic.com/303a3a1.png)
*snort*
It would be funnier if Gary Sanchez wasn't going to catch him before the season.
The whole season?
Doesn't anyone want the NL Wild Card?
So...the Cy has to go to Fernandez, right? Crowded field with no clear favorite, currently leads in pitcher fWAR and FIP and strikeouts, the Sabernerd Triple Crown would be both appropriate and defensible as something other than a pity vote for sure.
I'm sure the cool internet thing is to not care at all but DJ LeMahieu being a voluntary healthy scratch for five games so he can protect this Coors inflated batting title is some weak shit.
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:49:46 AM
I'm sure the cool internet thing is to not care at all but DJ LeMahieu being a voluntary healthy scratch for five games so he can protect this Coors inflated batting title is some weak shit.
Well, 4 games, but it's kinda dumb if you sit a guy for the final two games to preserve his .348 batting average when he has a .396 at home this year and your final 2 games are at home
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:12:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:49:46 AM
I'm sure the cool internet thing is to not care at all but DJ LeMahieu being a voluntary healthy scratch for five games so he can protect this Coors inflated batting title is some weak shit.
Well, 4 games, but it's kinda dumb if you sit a guy for the final two games to preserve his .348 batting average when he has a .396 at home this year and your final 2 games are at home
And now he can throw his batting title into his contract negotiation this winter/next season, so it'll cost the Rockies money.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 03, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:12:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:49:46 AM
I'm sure the cool internet thing is to not care at all but DJ LeMahieu being a voluntary healthy scratch for five games so he can protect this Coors inflated batting title is some weak shit.
Well, 4 games, but it's kinda dumb if you sit a guy for the final two games to preserve his .348 batting average when he has a .396 at home this year and your final 2 games are at home
And now he can throw his batting title into his contract negotiation this winter/next season, so it'll cost the Rockies money.
I know Weiss stepped down, so maybe he was sticking it to them, but why would a member of the organization hold him out of games if it is going to cost the organization money for holding him out of the games?
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 03, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:12:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:49:46 AM
I'm sure the cool internet thing is to not care at all but DJ LeMahieu being a voluntary healthy scratch for five games so he can protect this Coors inflated batting title is some weak shit.
Well, 4 games, but it's kinda dumb if you sit a guy for the final two games to preserve his .348 batting average when he has a .396 at home this year and your final 2 games are at home
And now he can throw his batting title into his contract negotiation this winter/next season, so it'll cost the Rockies money.
I know Weiss stepped down, so maybe he was sticking it to them, but why would a member of the organization hold him out of games if it is going to cost the organization money for holding him out of the games?
Maybe they're dumb.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 03, 2016, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 03, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:12:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:49:46 AM
I'm sure the cool internet thing is to not care at all but DJ LeMahieu being a voluntary healthy scratch for five games so he can protect this Coors inflated batting title is some weak shit.
Well, 4 games, but it's kinda dumb if you sit a guy for the final two games to preserve his .348 batting average when he has a .396 at home this year and your final 2 games are at home
And now he can throw his batting title into his contract negotiation this winter/next season, so it'll cost the Rockies money.
I know Weiss stepped down, so maybe he was sticking it to them, but why would a member of the organization hold him out of games if it is going to cost the organization money for holding him out of the games?
Maybe they're dumb.
This is the most anyone has talked about the Rockies since 2007.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 03, 2016, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 03, 2016, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 03, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 08:12:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 03, 2016, 07:49:46 AM
I'm sure the cool internet thing is to not care at all but DJ LeMahieu being a voluntary healthy scratch for five games so he can protect this Coors inflated batting title is some weak shit.
Well, 4 games, but it's kinda dumb if you sit a guy for the final two games to preserve his .348 batting average when he has a .396 at home this year and your final 2 games are at home
And now he can throw his batting title into his contract negotiation this winter/next season, so it'll cost the Rockies money.
I know Weiss stepped down, so maybe he was sticking it to them, but why would a member of the organization hold him out of games if it is going to cost the organization money for holding him out of the games?
Maybe they're dumb.
This is the most anyone has talked about the Rockies since 2007.
Clearly you forgot the Cubs/Rockies blockbuster that brought Rex Brothers last winter.