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Poll
Question: Keep LF/CF/RF or Just Go OF/OF/OF
Option 1: Keep votes: 6
Option 2: Change votes: 4
Option 3: I Don't Play in this League votes: 4
Title: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on January 30, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
League has been renewed.

In an effort to keep things fresh, we're going to dress up and role play change a few categories for 2017.

Here's how it's currently set-up - would love some feedback.  

Goal here (for pitchers) is to have the best to balance between starters and relievers, while also increasing the overall pool of players from waivers that are rosterable.

Pitchers:  
Previous            New
Wins                 Wins
Ks                     Ks
ERA                  ERA
WHIP                WHIP
Saves                Saves + Holds (combined category)
Holds                Quality Starts
                      K/9


Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Innings Pitched
Total Based Allowed
On-Base Percentage Against (this is probably my favorite option, but it's not that different from WHIP, so I'd think one or the other.)  

Hitters (adding one since we added one for pitchers):
Previous            New
Runs                 Runs
HR                    HR
RBI                   RBI
SB                    SB
AVG.                 AVG.
OPS                  OPS
                      Total Bases

Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Basically nothing.

If we want to go back to 6 categories, then we can remove Total Bases and remove one of either Quality Starts or K/9 for pitchers.
Another option is to replace Wins with Quality starts, but then it's a category only for starters (whereas relievers can pick up wins.)  

Would love thoughts.  

Other information:
Keepers Due: 3/24
Draft Date: 3/26 (Sunday before Opening Day, per tradition.  Currently set for 8pm Central Time)

You should have received an invite, but let me know if you didn't.

I'm expecting some turnover this year (Simmer, Thrill...) so if you're interested and have no played in the past, post here.  
Or we can play with 10.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Oleg on January 31, 2017, 08:36:50 AM
Saves + Holds is fine.
I wouldn't mind *not* having QS, instead go with K/9 or K/BB.

For the hitters, total bases works and dilutes the HR a bit, for better or for worse,
I wouldn't mind seeing BA replaced with OBP.

I would love to see is stick with 12 teams.  Much more interesting that way.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: CBStew on January 31, 2017, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: Oleg on January 31, 2017, 08:36:50 AM
Saves + Holds is fine.
I wouldn't mind *not* having QS, instead go with K/9 or K/BB.

For the hitters, total bases works and dilutes the HR a bit, for better or for worse,
I wouldn't mind seeing BA replaced with OBP.

I would love to see is stick with 12 teams.  Much more interesting that way.

Elitist!
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: ChuckD on January 31, 2017, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 31, 2017, 08:36:50 AM
Saves + Holds is fine.
I wouldn't mind *not* having QS, instead go with K/9 or K/BB.

For the hitters, total bases works and dilutes the HR a bit, for better or for worse,
I wouldn't mind seeing BA replaced with OBP.

I would love to see is stick with 12 teams.  Much more interesting that way.

Cosigned.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on January 31, 2017, 04:15:53 PM
Okay, here's where we're currently at: 

Hitters:               Pitchers:
R                       Wins
HR                     ERA
RBIs                   WHIP
SBs                    Ks
Total Bases         Saves + Holds
OBP                   K/9
SLG                   K/BB

I wouldn't add anymore from here, but we can optimize the 7 or remove one from each (Total Bases and K/BB, I imagine)

It seemed that if we were switching from .AVG to .OBP (which makes all the sense in the world) that having .OPS was a bit duplicative, so I just used .SLG as the second category there. 

Let me know.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Oleg on January 31, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 31, 2017, 04:15:53 PM
Okay, here's where we're currently at:  

Hitters:               Pitchers:
R                       Wins
HR                     ERA
RBIs                   WHIP
SBs                    Ks
Total Bases         Saves + Holds
OBP                   K/9
SLG                   K/BB

I wouldn't add anymore from here, but we can optimize the 7 or remove one from each (Total Bases and K/BB, I imagine)

It seemed that if we were switching from .AVG to .OBP (which makes all the sense in the world) that having .OPS was a bit duplicative, so I just used .SLG as the second category there.  

Let me know.


I'd vote to remove either SLG or Total Bases...those are basically the same, with SLG probably rewarding playing time much less.
I'd vote to remove one of the K categories to even it out...probably K/9.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Oleg on January 31, 2017, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 31, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 31, 2017, 04:15:53 PM
Okay, here's where we're currently at:  

Hitters:               Pitchers:
R                       Wins
HR                     ERA
RBIs                   WHIP
SBs                    Ks
Total Bases         Saves + Holds
OBP                   K/9
SLG                   K/BB

I wouldn't add anymore from here, but we can optimize the 7 or remove one from each (Total Bases and K/BB, I imagine)

It seemed that if we were switching from .AVG to .OBP (which makes all the sense in the world) that having .OPS was a bit duplicative, so I just used .SLG as the second category there.  

Let me know.


I'd vote to remove either SLG or Total Bases...those are basically the same, with SLG probably rewarding playing time much less.
I'd vote to remove one of the K categories to even it out...probably K/9.

DPD...

Or we can full on statfaggery and use BsR instead of SBs and WPA instead of S+H...etc, etc.

I'm only half-joking.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on January 31, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 31, 2017, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 31, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 31, 2017, 04:15:53 PM
Okay, here's where we're currently at:  

Hitters:               Pitchers:
R                       Wins
HR                     ERA
RBIs                   WHIP
SBs                    Ks
Total Bases         Saves + Holds
OBP                   K/9
SLG                   K/BB

I wouldn't add anymore from here, but we can optimize the 7 or remove one from each (Total Bases and K/BB, I imagine)

It seemed that if we were switching from .AVG to .OBP (which makes all the sense in the world) that having .OPS was a bit duplicative, so I just used .SLG as the second category there.  

Let me know.


I'd vote to remove either SLG or Total Bases...those are basically the same, with SLG probably rewarding playing time much less.
I'd vote to remove one of the K categories to even it out...probably K/9.

DPD...

Or we can full on statfaggery and use BsR instead of SBs and WPA instead of S+H...etc, etc.

I'm only half-joking.

You understand we're using Yahoo and not FanGraphs for our league, right?

Here are all the choices:

Batters
Games Played
Games Started
At Bats
Runs
Hits
Singles
Doubles
Triples
Home Runs
Runs Batted In
Sacrifice Hits
Sacrifice Flys
Stolen Bases
Caught Stealing
Walks
Intentional Walks
Hit By Pitch
Strikeouts
Ground Into Double Play
Total Bases
Putouts
Assists
Errors
Fielding Percentage
Batting Average
On-base Percentage
Slugging Percentage
On-base + Slugging Percentage
Extra Base Hits
Net Stolen Bases
Stolen Base Percentage
Hitting for the Cycle
Plate Appearances
Grand Slam Home Runs
Outfield Assists
Double Plays Turned
Catcher Interference
Pitchers
Pitching Appearances
Games Started
Innings Pitched
Wins
Losses
Complete Games
Shutouts
Saves
Outs
Hits
Total Batters Faced
Runs
Earned Runs
Home Runs
Walks
Intentional Walks
Hit Batters
Strikeouts
Wild Pitches
Balks
Stolen Bases Allowed
Batters Grounded Into Double Plays
Save Chances
Holds
Total Bases Allowed
Earned Run Average
(Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched
Strikeouts per Walk Ratio
Strikeouts per Nine Innings
Pitch Count
Singles Allowed
Doubles Allowed
Triples Allowed
Relief Wins
Relief Losses
Pickoffs
Relief Appearances
On-base Percentage Against
Winning Percentage
Hits Per Nine Innings
Walks Per Nine Innings
No Hitters
Perfect Games
Save Percentage
Inherited Runners Scored
Quality Starts
Blown Saves
Net Saves
Saves + Holds
Net Saves and Holds

Let's try to get 6x6 or 7x7
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: ChuckD on January 31, 2017, 09:47:58 PM
All I want is a league that rewards catcher interference.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: D. Doluntap on February 01, 2017, 04:40:13 PM
If you need another player, and someone to most stay close to the relegation zone, lemme know!
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on February 03, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on February 01, 2017, 04:40:13 PM
If you need another player, and someone to most stay close to the relegation zone, lemme know!

Will do.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on February 03, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
Final Stats:

Hitters:              Pitchers:
R                            W
HR                           K
RBI                          ERA
SB                          WHIP
OBP                        SV + H 
SLG                         K/BB
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on February 03, 2017, 11:18:41 AM
TPD. 

Prelim Keepers: 

4. Charlie Blackmon
5. Jake Arrieta
6. Josh Donaldson
7. Jacob DeGrom
10. Michael Fullmer
11. Manny Machado
12. Sueng-Hwan Oh
13. Gary Sanchez
15. Jeff Samardzija
16. Francisco Lindor
19. Yu Darvish
23. Trea Turner
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: JD on February 03, 2017, 02:59:20 PM
I don't understand those stats at all.  This is bad for my strategy. 
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on February 03, 2017, 04:57:53 PM
Quote from: JD on February 03, 2017, 02:59:20 PM
I don't understand those stats at all.  This is bad for my strategy. 

Your strategy is stupid and hasn't won you anything so maybe you should change it.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: JD on February 03, 2017, 07:54:19 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 03, 2017, 04:57:53 PM
Quote from: JD on February 03, 2017, 02:59:20 PM
I don't understand those stats at all.  This is bad for my strategy. 

Your strategy is stupid and hasn't won you anything so maybe you should change it.

You wish.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: JD on February 04, 2017, 10:11:22 PM
Speaking of fantasy baseball leagues, there's an opening in a league me and Yeti are in.  It's a keeper league.  It uses the Fangraphs points system.  You'd be taking over a team.  There's a 30 dollar buy-in, but you don't HAVE throw in to play.  However, I don't want you in the league if you're not gonna ante up.  So, in a way, you actually DO have to be willing to pony up the cash, whatever that means.  You might win it back, though.  I don't know.  Maybe you're good.  Maybe you're the best.  Step up to the streets and see, backstreet.  Greatness awaits.  No Fear!
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: JD on February 06, 2017, 07:25:59 AM
Me and Yeti still need an owner for a fantasy baseball league.  It's not head to head.  It's points.  It's a keeper. 
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Yeti on February 06, 2017, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: JD on February 06, 2017, 07:25:59 AM
Me and Yeti still need an owner for a fantasy baseball league.  It's not head to head.  It's points.  It's a keeper. 

It's a good league. Or so I'm told
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Oleg on February 06, 2017, 09:28:22 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 06, 2017, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: JD on February 06, 2017, 07:25:59 AM
Me and Yeti still need an owner for a fantasy baseball league.  It's not head to head.  It's points.  It's a keeper. 

It's a good league. Or so I'm told

Fangraphs stats for realz?  Stafaggory?  I'm in.  Send me an invite.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: JD on February 06, 2017, 10:46:48 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 06, 2017, 09:28:22 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 06, 2017, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: JD on February 06, 2017, 07:25:59 AM
Me and Yeti still need an owner for a fantasy baseball league.  It's not head to head.  It's points.  It's a keeper. 

It's a good league. Or so I'm told

Fangraphs stats for realz?  Stafaggory?  I'm in.  Send me an invite.

Invite sent.  Or so I'm told.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Oleg on February 07, 2017, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: JD on February 06, 2017, 10:46:48 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 06, 2017, 09:28:22 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 06, 2017, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: JD on February 06, 2017, 07:25:59 AM
Me and Yeti still need an owner for a fantasy baseball league.  It's not head to head.  It's points.  It's a keeper. 

It's a good league. Or so I'm told

Fangraphs stats for realz?  Stafaggory?  I'm in.  Send me an invite.

Invite sent.  Or so I'm told.

I'm in.  Thanks.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: JD on February 07, 2017, 10:19:50 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 07, 2017, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: JD on February 06, 2017, 10:46:48 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 06, 2017, 09:28:22 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 06, 2017, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: JD on February 06, 2017, 07:25:59 AM
Me and Yeti still need an owner for a fantasy baseball league.  It's not head to head.  It's points.  It's a keeper. 

It's a good league. Or so I'm told

Fangraphs stats for realz?  Stafaggory?  I'm in.  Send me an invite.

Invite sent.  Or so I'm told.

I'm in.  Thanks.

Yeah, you are!
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Andy on February 22, 2017, 06:44:31 AM
I'm cool with whatever categories, I just want to make my annual plea to dump the LF-RF-CF designations so you can just play outfielders. 

I find it to be more of a pain in the ass than some sort of interesting strategy.


Quote from: PenFoe on January 30, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
League has been renewed.

In an effort to keep things fresh, we're going to dress up and role play change a few categories for 2017.

Here's how it's currently set-up - would love some feedback.  

Goal here (for pitchers) is to have the best to balance between starters and relievers, while also increasing the overall pool of players from waivers that are rosterable.

Pitchers:  
Previous            New
Wins                 Wins
Ks                     Ks
ERA                  ERA
WHIP                WHIP
Saves                Saves + Holds (combined category)
Holds                Quality Starts
                      K/9


Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Innings Pitched
Total Based Allowed
On-Base Percentage Against (this is probably my favorite option, but it's not that different from WHIP, so I'd think one or the other.)  

Hitters (adding one since we added one for pitchers):
Previous            New
Runs                 Runs
HR                    HR
RBI                   RBI
SB                    SB
AVG.                 AVG.
OPS                  OPS
                      Total Bases

Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Basically nothing.

If we want to go back to 6 categories, then we can remove Total Bases and remove one of either Quality Starts or K/9 for pitchers.
Another option is to replace Wins with Quality starts, but then it's a category only for starters (whereas relievers can pick up wins.)  

Would love thoughts.  

Other information:
Keepers Due: 3/24
Draft Date: 3/26 (Sunday before Opening Day, per tradition.  Currently set for 8pm Central Time)

You should have received an invite, but let me know if you didn't.

I'm expecting some turnover this year (Simmer, Thrill...) so if you're interested and have no played in the past, post here.  
Or we can play with 10.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Richard Chuggar on March 02, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 22, 2017, 06:44:31 AM
I'm cool with whatever categories, I just want to make my annual plea to dump the LF-RF-CF designations so you can just play outfielders. 

I find it to be more of a pain in the ass than some sort of interesting strategy.


Quote from: PenFoe on January 30, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
League has been renewed.

In an effort to keep things fresh, we're going to dress up and role play change a few categories for 2017.

Here's how it's currently set-up - would love some feedback.  

Goal here (for pitchers) is to have the best to balance between starters and relievers, while also increasing the overall pool of players from waivers that are rosterable.

Pitchers:  
Previous            New
Wins                 Wins
Ks                     Ks
ERA                  ERA
WHIP                WHIP
Saves                Saves + Holds (combined category)
Holds                Quality Starts
                      K/9


Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Innings Pitched
Total Based Allowed
On-Base Percentage Against (this is probably my favorite option, but it's not that different from WHIP, so I'd think one or the other.)  

Hitters (adding one since we added one for pitchers):
Previous            New
Runs                 Runs
HR                    HR
RBI                   RBI
SB                    SB
AVG.                 AVG.
OPS                  OPS
                      Total Bases

Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Basically nothing.

If we want to go back to 6 categories, then we can remove Total Bases and remove one of either Quality Starts or K/9 for pitchers.
Another option is to replace Wins with Quality starts, but then it's a category only for starters (whereas relievers can pick up wins.)  

Would love thoughts.  

Other information:
Keepers Due: 3/24
Draft Date: 3/26 (Sunday before Opening Day, per tradition.  Currently set for 8pm Central Time)

You should have received an invite, but let me know if you didn't.

I'm expecting some turnover this year (Simmer, Thrill...) so if you're interested and have no played in the past, post here.  
Or we can play with 10.

I too think the OF assignments are dumb and vote to have three OF only.
also where is the keeper spreadsheet to know what round we can keep them in?
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 02, 2017, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 02, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 22, 2017, 06:44:31 AM
I'm cool with whatever categories, I just want to make my annual plea to dump the LF-RF-CF designations so you can just play outfielders. 

I find it to be more of a pain in the ass than some sort of interesting strategy.


Quote from: PenFoe on January 30, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
League has been renewed.

In an effort to keep things fresh, we're going to dress up and role play change a few categories for 2017.

Here's how it's currently set-up - would love some feedback.  

Goal here (for pitchers) is to have the best to balance between starters and relievers, while also increasing the overall pool of players from waivers that are rosterable.

Pitchers:  
Previous            New
Wins                 Wins
Ks                     Ks
ERA                  ERA
WHIP                WHIP
Saves                Saves + Holds (combined category)
Holds                Quality Starts
                      K/9


Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Innings Pitched
Total Based Allowed
On-Base Percentage Against (this is probably my favorite option, but it's not that different from WHIP, so I'd think one or the other.)  

Hitters (adding one since we added one for pitchers):
Previous            New
Runs                 Runs
HR                    HR
RBI                   RBI
SB                    SB
AVG.                 AVG.
OPS                  OPS
                      Total Bases

Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Basically nothing.

If we want to go back to 6 categories, then we can remove Total Bases and remove one of either Quality Starts or K/9 for pitchers.
Another option is to replace Wins with Quality starts, but then it's a category only for starters (whereas relievers can pick up wins.)  

Would love thoughts.  

Other information:
Keepers Due: 3/24
Draft Date: 3/26 (Sunday before Opening Day, per tradition.  Currently set for 8pm Central Time)

You should have received an invite, but let me know if you didn't.

I'm expecting some turnover this year (Simmer, Thrill...) so if you're interested and have no played in the past, post here.  
Or we can play with 10.

I too think the OF assignments are dumb and vote to have three OF only.
also where is the keeper spreadsheet to know what round we can keep them in?

I like the LF/RF/CF alignment, but I won't die on that hill if enough people feel otherwise.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: ChuckD on March 02, 2017, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 02, 2017, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 02, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 22, 2017, 06:44:31 AM
I'm cool with whatever categories, I just want to make my annual plea to dump the LF-RF-CF designations so you can just play outfielders. 

I find it to be more of a pain in the ass than some sort of interesting strategy.


Quote from: PenFoe on January 30, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
League has been renewed.

In an effort to keep things fresh, we're going to dress up and role play change a few categories for 2017.

Here's how it's currently set-up - would love some feedback.  

Goal here (for pitchers) is to have the best to balance between starters and relievers, while also increasing the overall pool of players from waivers that are rosterable.

Pitchers:  
Previous            New
Wins                 Wins
Ks                     Ks
ERA                  ERA
WHIP                WHIP
Saves                Saves + Holds (combined category)
Holds                Quality Starts
                      K/9


Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Innings Pitched
Total Based Allowed
On-Base Percentage Against (this is probably my favorite option, but it's not that different from WHIP, so I'd think one or the other.)  

Hitters (adding one since we added one for pitchers):
Previous            New
Runs                 Runs
HR                    HR
RBI                   RBI
SB                    SB
AVG.                 AVG.
OPS                  OPS
                      Total Bases

Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Basically nothing.

If we want to go back to 6 categories, then we can remove Total Bases and remove one of either Quality Starts or K/9 for pitchers.
Another option is to replace Wins with Quality starts, but then it's a category only for starters (whereas relievers can pick up wins.)  

Would love thoughts.  

Other information:
Keepers Due: 3/24
Draft Date: 3/26 (Sunday before Opening Day, per tradition.  Currently set for 8pm Central Time)

You should have received an invite, but let me know if you didn't.

I'm expecting some turnover this year (Simmer, Thrill...) so if you're interested and have no played in the past, post here.  
Or we can play with 10.

I too think the OF assignments are dumb and vote to have three OF only.
also where is the keeper spreadsheet to know what round we can keep them in?

I like the LF/RF/CF alignment, but I won't die on that hill if enough people feel otherwise.

Cosigned. I'll try to put together a spreadsheet with draft slots tonight.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Yeti on March 08, 2017, 08:38:46 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 02, 2017, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 02, 2017, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 02, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 22, 2017, 06:44:31 AM
I'm cool with whatever categories, I just want to make my annual plea to dump the LF-RF-CF designations so you can just play outfielders. 

I find it to be more of a pain in the ass than some sort of interesting strategy.


Quote from: PenFoe on January 30, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
League has been renewed.

In an effort to keep things fresh, we're going to dress up and role play change a few categories for 2017.

Here's how it's currently set-up - would love some feedback.  

Goal here (for pitchers) is to have the best to balance between starters and relievers, while also increasing the overall pool of players from waivers that are rosterable.

Pitchers:  
Previous            New
Wins                 Wins
Ks                     Ks
ERA                  ERA
WHIP                WHIP
Saves                Saves + Holds (combined category)
Holds                Quality Starts
                      K/9


Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Innings Pitched
Total Based Allowed
On-Base Percentage Against (this is probably my favorite option, but it's not that different from WHIP, so I'd think one or the other.)  

Hitters (adding one since we added one for pitchers):
Previous            New
Runs                 Runs
HR                    HR
RBI                   RBI
SB                    SB
AVG.                 AVG.
OPS                  OPS
                      Total Bases

Other realistic options - either to add or replace:
Basically nothing.

If we want to go back to 6 categories, then we can remove Total Bases and remove one of either Quality Starts or K/9 for pitchers.
Another option is to replace Wins with Quality starts, but then it's a category only for starters (whereas relievers can pick up wins.)  

Would love thoughts.  

Other information:
Keepers Due: 3/24
Draft Date: 3/26 (Sunday before Opening Day, per tradition.  Currently set for 8pm Central Time)

You should have received an invite, but let me know if you didn't.

I'm expecting some turnover this year (Simmer, Thrill...) so if you're interested and have no played in the past, post here.  
Or we can play with 10.

I too think the OF assignments are dumb and vote to have three OF only.
also where is the keeper spreadsheet to know what round we can keep them in?

I like the LF/RF/CF alignment, but I won't die on that hill if enough people feel otherwise.

Cosigned. I'll try to put together a spreadsheet with draft slots tonight.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: ChuckD on March 09, 2017, 06:22:43 AM
Just sent out a GDoc invite to the same people I shared it with last year. Let me know if you didn't receive it.

Check and make sure that your team and draft picks are correct.

You can filter the "Keepers" sheet to your team and mark the "Keeping" column to "Yes/No." Or just post them here and someone will update it.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Yeti on March 09, 2017, 07:14:30 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 09, 2017, 06:22:43 AM
Just sent out a GDoc invite to the same people I shared it with last year. Let me know if you didn't receive it.

Check and make sure that your team and draft picks are correct.

You can filter the "Keepers" sheet to your team and mark the "Keeping" column to "Yes/No." Or just post them here and someone will update it.


Gracias
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 09, 2017, 10:48:12 AM
Vote
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: SKO on March 09, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
I don't play in this league but the fun of fantasy sports is trying to build a team and deal with the exact kind of scarcity of talent that real GMs have to deal with, saying "it's hard to find center fielder who can hit, so lemme have a Kyle Schwarber/Matt Holliday/Giancarlo Stanton outfield" kinda misses the point. Why even have positions then? Just accumulate the 9 best hitters you can find.

Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on March 09, 2017, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 09, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
I don't play in this league but the fun of fantasy sports is trying to build a team and deal with the exact kind of scarcity of talent that real GMs have to deal with, saying "it's hard to find center fielder who can hit, so lemme have a Kyle Schwarber/Matt Holliday/Giancarlo Stanton outfield" kinda misses the point. Why even have positions then? Just accumulate the 9 best hitters you can find.



It's almost as if this is some sort of fantasized version of real baseball..
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: SKO on March 09, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on March 09, 2017, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 09, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
I don't play in this league but the fun of fantasy sports is trying to build a team and deal with the exact kind of scarcity of talent that real GMs have to deal with, saying "it's hard to find center fielder who can hit, so lemme have a Kyle Schwarber/Matt Holliday/Giancarlo Stanton outfield" kinda misses the point. Why even have positions then? Just accumulate the 9 best hitters you can find.



It's almost as if this is some sort of fantasized version of real baseball..

Right, so in that case my second baseman is now Kris Bryant and my shortstop is Paul Goldschmidt, I'm not even pretending defense matters so let's just draft the 9 best bats possible.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Yeti on March 09, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 09, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on March 09, 2017, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 09, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
I don't play in this league but the fun of fantasy sports is trying to build a team and deal with the exact kind of scarcity of talent that real GMs have to deal with, saying "it's hard to find center fielder who can hit, so lemme have a Kyle Schwarber/Matt Holliday/Giancarlo Stanton outfield" kinda misses the point. Why even have positions then? Just accumulate the 9 best hitters you can find.



It's almost as if this is some sort of fantasized version of real baseball..

Right, so in that case my second baseman is now Kris Bryant and my shortstop is Paul Goldschmidt, I'm not even pretending defense matters so let's just draft the 9 best bats possible.

So, if Kris plays an inning at SS, becomes SS available, you won't put him there going forward because you want to be authentic?
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: SKO on March 09, 2017, 01:39:13 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 09, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 09, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on March 09, 2017, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 09, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
I don't play in this league but the fun of fantasy sports is trying to build a team and deal with the exact kind of scarcity of talent that real GMs have to deal with, saying "it's hard to find center fielder who can hit, so lemme have a Kyle Schwarber/Matt Holliday/Giancarlo Stanton outfield" kinda misses the point. Why even have positions then? Just accumulate the 9 best hitters you can find.



It's almost as if this is some sort of fantasized version of real baseball..

Right, so in that case my second baseman is now Kris Bryant and my shortstop is Paul Goldschmidt, I'm not even pretending defense matters so let's just draft the 9 best bats possible.

So, if Kris plays an inning at SS, becomes SS available, you won't put him there going forward because you want to be authentic?

If your rules allow that, fine, I would, because I'd want to win. I just wouldn't want those rules?
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: ChuckD on March 09, 2017, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 09, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: SKO on March 09, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on March 09, 2017, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 09, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
I don't play in this league but the fun of fantasy sports is trying to build a team and deal with the exact kind of scarcity of talent that real GMs have to deal with, saying "it's hard to find center fielder who can hit, so lemme have a Kyle Schwarber/Matt Holliday/Giancarlo Stanton outfield" kinda misses the point. Why even have positions then? Just accumulate the 9 best hitters you can find.



It's almost as if this is some sort of fantasized version of real baseball..

Right, so in that case my second baseman is now Kris Bryant and my shortstop is Paul Goldschmidt, I'm not even pretending defense matters so let's just draft the 9 best bats possible.

So, if Kris plays an inning at SS, becomes SS available, you won't put him there going forward because you want to be authentic?

He'd need to play in 10 games at SS (or start in five) to become eligible.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Shooter on March 18, 2017, 02:35:24 PM
How many keepers allowed?
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: ChuckD on March 18, 2017, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Shooter on March 18, 2017, 02:35:24 PM
How many keepers allowed?

23.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 20, 2017, 09:51:07 AM
Okay, draft order set and everyone has been assigned commissioner access.

So either set your keepers in yourself, or post them here and I'll do it.

Let's try to have this done quickly.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 21, 2017, 09:43:05 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 20, 2017, 09:51:07 AM
Okay, draft order set and everyone has been assigned commissioner access.

So either set your keepers in yourself, or post them here and I'll do it.

Let's try to have this done quickly.

I see none of these things are happening.

Perhaps another attempt?

Or should I be looking at what people have marked on CD's spreadsheet? That seems like the worst of the three options.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 21, 2017, 10:04:15 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 21, 2017, 09:43:05 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 20, 2017, 09:51:07 AM
Okay, draft order set and everyone has been assigned commissioner access.

So either set your keepers in yourself, or post them here and I'll do it.

Let's try to have this done quickly.

I see none of these things are happening.

Perhaps another attempt?

Or should I be looking at what people have marked on CD's spreadsheet? That seems like the worst of the three options.

TPD.

Looks like people are using the dumb spreadsheet. It doesn't help you differentiate when guys are in the same round, but I'll just make decisions and people can check.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Yeti on March 21, 2017, 10:43:27 AM
Shooter: Specify your 13th round keepers. Jon Gray, Ian Desmond, Edwin Diaz. One has to be an 11th round, one a 12th and one a 13th.
Dolan: Clarify between your 13th round keepers. Kris Bryant and Villar. Specify one for the 12th round and the 13th round
           Also, decide between your 11th rounders: Schwarber and Iglesias. One needs to be the 11th and the 10th.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Yeti on March 21, 2017, 10:53:13 AM
Since Pen is angry that Excel doesn't input the keepers into Yahoo, a set of instructions:
If you have keepers that are in the same round, on the Keeper tab, under the "KeeperOverallPick" column, change the draft pick number to the appropriate number.
For example, if you have 2 13th round keepers, and your 13th round pick number is 135, it will show them both as 135. We all know they can't be pick 135, so go to the Draft Order tab, find what # pick your 12th round pick is. If that number is 123, then input that on the Keeper tab (KeeperOverallPick column) next to the guy you want to keep in the 12th round.

If you go back to the draft order tab, they are now showing up in the 12th round.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 21, 2017, 11:00:07 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2017, 10:53:13 AM
Since Pen is angry that Excel doesn't input the keepers into Yahoo, a set of instructions:
If you have keepers that are in the same round, on the Keeper tab, under the "KeeperOverallPick" column, change the draft pick number to the appropriate number.
For example, if you have 2 13th round keepers, and your 13th round pick number is 135, it will show them both as 135. We all know they can't be pick 135, so go to the Draft Order tab, find what # pick your 12th round pick is. If that number is 123, then input that on the Keeper tab (KeeperOverallPick column) next to the guy you want to keep in the 12th round.

If you go back to the draft order tab, they are now showing up in the 12th round.

No, Pen is angry that I can't use the spreadsheet to input players into Yahoo because any teams will multiple picks in the same round can't/didn't/didn't know to differentiate.

The old way has worked perfectly for all these years, unlike this way.

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Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Shooter on March 21, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2017, 10:43:27 AM
Shooter: Specify your 13th round keepers. Jon Gray, Ian Desmond, Edwin Diaz. One has to be an 11th round, one a 12th and one a 13th.
Dolan: Clarify between your 13th round keepers. Kris Bryant and Villar. Specify one for the 12th round and the 13th round
           Also, decide between your 11th rounders: Schwarber and Iglesias. One needs to be the 11th and the 10th.

Diaz, 11
Gray, 12
Desmond, 13
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 23, 2017, 12:24:08 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on February 01, 2017, 04:40:13 PM
If you need another player, and someone to most stay close to the relegation zone, lemme know!

Sent a PM to this guy to take over Simmer's long-neglected team.

If anyone wants to take over Thrill's team, we can work that out too.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: ChuckD on March 23, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 23, 2017, 12:24:08 AM
If anyone wants to take over Thrill's team, we can work that out too.

RIP in peace
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: D. Doluntap on March 23, 2017, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 23, 2017, 12:24:08 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on February 01, 2017, 04:40:13 PM
If you need another player, and someone to most stay close to the relegation zone, lemme know!

Sent a PM to this guy to take over Simmer's long-neglected team.

If anyone wants to take over Thrill's team, we can work that out too.

I'm in!
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 24, 2017, 09:48:33 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on March 23, 2017, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 23, 2017, 12:24:08 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on February 01, 2017, 04:40:13 PM
If you need another player, and someone to most stay close to the relegation zone, lemme know!

Sent a PM to this guy to take over Simmer's long-neglected team.

If anyone wants to take over Thrill's team, we can work that out too.

I'm in!

Send me your email address and I'll get you signed in.

Here are your keeper options, let me know what you think.

Matt Kemp - Round 1
Trevor Rosenthal - 2
Hanley Ramirez - 3
Zach Britton - 4
Lance McCullers - 5
Justin Verlander - 6
Patrick Corbin - 7
Jake Odorizzi - 8
Jaime Garcia - 9
Starling Marte - 11
Lorenzo Cain - 12
David Wright - 13
Joakim Soria - 13
John Azford - 13
Mat Latos - 13
Tyler Clippard - 13
Corey Kluber - 14
Yan Gomes - 15
Clay Buchholz - 16
Steve Cishek - 17
Neil Walker - 19
Dexter Fowler - 20
Jung Ho Kang - 22
Melky Cabrera - 23

If you want guys from the same round, you have to bump one up.

I think your best bets are:
Verlander
Marte (LF, CF)
Cain (CF, RF)
Kluber
Fowler (CF)

Let us know and we can enter them ASAP.  
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Andy on March 26, 2017, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 21, 2017, 11:00:07 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2017, 10:53:13 AM
Since Pen is angry that Excel doesn't input the keepers into Yahoo, a set of instructions:
If you have keepers that are in the same round, on the Keeper tab, under the "KeeperOverallPick" column, change the draft pick number to the appropriate number.
For example, if you have 2 13th round keepers, and your 13th round pick number is 135, it will show them both as 135. We all know they can't be pick 135, so go to the Draft Order tab, find what # pick your 12th round pick is. If that number is 123, then input that on the Keeper tab (KeeperOverallPick column) next to the guy you want to keep in the 12th round.

If you go back to the draft order tab, they are now showing up in the 12th round.

That was a lot of math and I never bothered to look at it.  But I think it's fair to assume I'd want to assign Bryant and Schwarber the later round numbers.

No, Pen is angry that I can't use the spreadsheet to input players into Yahoo because any teams will multiple picks in the same round can't/didn't/didn't know to differentiate.

The old way has worked perfectly for all these years, unlike this way.

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Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on March 26, 2017, 06:11:54 PM
Latest update:

D. Doluntap - team transferred from Simmer and invited.  Yeti entered his keepers.
Andy - Villar/Iglesias switch made

Chuck and Thrill did not submit keepers and will play without them.
If we have people who want to own these teams in 2018, please let us know.

Draft in just under 2 hours.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: PenFoe on October 02, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
2017: 1st place
2016: 1st
2015: 2nd
2014: 1st
2013: 2nd

Y'all are legit terrible at this. 

Nice season. Let's do it again in the spring.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2017, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 02, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
2017: 1st place
2016: 1st
2015: 2nd
2014: 1st
2013: 2nd

Y'all are legit terrible at this. 

Nice season. Let's do it again in the spring.

In their defense, no one else cares about this.
Title: Re: 2017 Fantasy Baseball League
Post by: Oleg on October 02, 2017, 04:18:48 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 02, 2017, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 02, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
2017: 1st place
2016: 1st
2015: 2nd
2014: 1st
2013: 2nd

Y'all are legit terrible at this. 

Nice season. Let's do it again in the spring.

I do.  Pen will get his comeuppance next year, in my third year in the league.

In their defense, no one else cares about this.