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Title: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on September 06, 2017, 03:16:09 PM
We're going to need this thread to reactivate it in 180 days.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: PenFoe on September 06, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
On a semi-related note, former Bears DE Israel Idonije auditioned today (in Chicago) for a commercial we're shooting next week.
I don't think he's right for this specific part, but he has some acting chops. 

In case anyone was wondering what he was up to these days.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 07, 2017, 09:16:20 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 06, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
On a semi-related note, former Bears DE Israel Idonije auditioned today (in Chicago) for a commercial we're shooting next week.
I don't think he's right for this specific part, but he has some acting chops. 

In case anyone was wondering what he was up to these days.

Intrepid Reader: Huey

Tell me about the potatoes.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: PenFoe on September 07, 2017, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 07, 2017, 09:16:20 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 06, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
On a semi-related note, former Bears DE Israel Idonije auditioned today (in Chicago) for a commercial we're shooting next week.
I don't think he's right for this specific part, but he has some acting chops. 

In case anyone was wondering what he was up to these days.

Intrepid Reader: Huey

Tell me about the potatoes.

Not for potatoes, but I venture he might be a solid fit for them.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Quality Start Machine on September 07, 2017, 12:00:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 07, 2017, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 07, 2017, 09:16:20 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 06, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
On a semi-related note, former Bears DE Israel Idonije auditioned today (in Chicago) for a commercial we're shooting next week.
I don't think he's right for this specific part, but he has some acting chops. 

In case anyone was wondering what he was up to these days.

Intrepid Reader: Huey

Tell me about the potatoes.

Not for potatoes, but I venture he might be a solid fit for them.

Now that Nazis are back in vogue, you going back into pizza?
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: WTB...A RING FFS!! on September 17, 2017, 12:57:02 PM
The Mitch Trubisky era should be starting any minute now.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 22, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
Are they going to take the shackles off Trubisky at some point or nah.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Quality Start Machine on October 24, 2017, 09:56:48 AM
This team has actually been kind of fun to watch.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: WTB...A RING FFS!! on October 25, 2017, 11:57:09 AM
The defense is a lot of fun to watch, starting to remind me of the Urlacher/Briggs/Brown D, not there yet, but they're starting to hit their stride. On the other side, it's fucking painful to watch that offense, even with Howard and Cohen. I'd say it's time to take the kid gloves off...but they haven't let him graduate to even having kid gloves yet.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on October 29, 2017, 09:38:08 PM
Turbinski not showing the accuracy that was advertised.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2017, 02:21:49 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 29, 2017, 09:38:08 PM
Turbinski not showing the accuracy that was advertised.

They should probably cut their losses and go back to Mike Glennon now, right Chuck
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: CBStew on October 30, 2017, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
I think that there is some kind of "dropitis"  epidemic in the Bay Area.  I spent Sunday afternoon watching Raider and 49er receivers drop everything that hit them in the hands.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on October 30, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Agreed. But he missed at least four or five passes yesterday that were under thrown, overthrown or behind his target. Wasn't very encouraging.

Very unhappy that Paced is allowing this coaching staff to try to teach this kid given they all may be out in 9 weeks. Still think they should have fired Fox before the year started or extended him so the coaching staff could focus on development and not on wins.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 30, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Agreed. But he missed at least four or five passes yesterday that were under thrown, overthrown or behind his target. Wasn't very encouraging.

Very unhappy that Paced is allowing this coaching staff to try to teach this kid given they all may be out in 9 weeks. Still think they should have fired Fox before the year started or extended him so the coaching staff could focus on development and not on wins.

How many throws did they let him make the last two weeks before Sunday, 16 and 7 I think? Kid can't even get into a rhythm. I've definitely seen enough to be cautiously optimistic on the Trubisky Train.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: SKO on October 31, 2017, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 30, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Agreed. But he missed at least four or five passes yesterday that were under thrown, overthrown or behind his target. Wasn't very encouraging.

Very unhappy that Paced is allowing this coaching staff to try to teach this kid given they all may be out in 9 weeks. Still think they should have fired Fox before the year started or extended him so the coaching staff could focus on development and not on wins.

How many throws did they let him make the last two weeks before Sunday, 16 and 7 I think? Kid can't even get into a rhythm. I've definitely seen enough to be cautiously optimistic on the Trubisky Train.

He's caught in the absolute worst possible offense for a rookie QB. The talent around him is terrible and the coaching staff thinks "protecting" a young QB means throwing only on 3rd and long or limiting the number of attempts. Honestly they should throw early and often with an emphasis on spreading the field and getting him easily completions, letting him get into a rhythm. They're incredibly bland and boring and when you are asking a QB to pass only when the defense is expecting a pass you're really fucking him over. I think they only use Tarik Cohen as a receiver out of one or two formations, they never split him out wide, etc. It's like Mike Tice is back.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: PenFoe on October 31, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 30, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Agreed. But he missed at least four or five passes yesterday that were under thrown, overthrown or behind his target. Wasn't very encouraging.

Very unhappy that Paced is allowing this coaching staff to try to teach this kid given they all may be out in 9 weeks. Still think they should have fired Fox before the year started or extended him so the coaching staff could focus on development and not on wins.

How many throws did they let him make the last two weeks before Sunday, 16 and 7 I think? Kid can't even get into a rhythm. I've definitely seen enough to be cautiously optimistic on the Trubisky Train.

He's caught in the absolute worst possible offense for a rookie QB. The talent around him is terrible and the coaching staff thinks "protecting" a young QB means throwing only on 3rd and long or limiting the number of attempts. Honestly they should throw early and often with an emphasis on spreading the field and getting him easily completions, letting him get into a rhythm. They're incredibly bland and boring and when you are asking a QB to pass only when the defense is expecting a pass you're really fucking him over. I think they only use Tarik Cohen as a receiver out of one or two formations, they never split him out wide, etc. It's like Mike Tice is back.

Say what?

(http://proplayerinsiders.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2002_04_01_david_carr_large.jpg)

Pretty sure Carr would have killed for the Bears' offensive line and anyone near as talented as Jordan Howard.
His receivers weren't any better than these clowns either.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: SKO on October 31, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 30, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Agreed. But he missed at least four or five passes yesterday that were under thrown, overthrown or behind his target. Wasn't very encouraging.

Very unhappy that Paced is allowing this coaching staff to try to teach this kid given they all may be out in 9 weeks. Still think they should have fired Fox before the year started or extended him so the coaching staff could focus on development and not on wins.

How many throws did they let him make the last two weeks before Sunday, 16 and 7 I think? Kid can't even get into a rhythm. I've definitely seen enough to be cautiously optimistic on the Trubisky Train.

He's caught in the absolute worst possible offense for a rookie QB. The talent around him is terrible and the coaching staff thinks "protecting" a young QB means throwing only on 3rd and long or limiting the number of attempts. Honestly they should throw early and often with an emphasis on spreading the field and getting him easily completions, letting him get into a rhythm. They're incredibly bland and boring and when you are asking a QB to pass only when the defense is expecting a pass you're really fucking him over. I think they only use Tarik Cohen as a receiver out of one or two formations, they never split him out wide, etc. It's like Mike Tice is back.

Say what?

(http://proplayerinsiders.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2002_04_01_david_carr_large.jpg)

Pretty sure Carr would have killed for the Bears' offensive line and anyone near as talented as Jordan Howard.
His receivers weren't any better than these clowns either.

Well I don't think it's possible for Mitch to play for the 2002 Texans, actually.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Saul Goodman on October 31, 2017, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 30, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Agreed. But he missed at least four or five passes yesterday that were under thrown, overthrown or behind his target. Wasn't very encouraging.

Very unhappy that Paced is allowing this coaching staff to try to teach this kid given they all may be out in 9 weeks. Still think they should have fired Fox before the year started or extended him so the coaching staff could focus on development and not on wins.

How many throws did they let him make the last two weeks before Sunday, 16 and 7 I think? Kid can't even get into a rhythm. I've definitely seen enough to be cautiously optimistic on the Trubisky Train.

He's caught in the absolute worst possible offense for a rookie QB. The talent around him is terrible and the coaching staff thinks "protecting" a young QB means throwing only on 3rd and long or limiting the number of attempts. Honestly they should throw early and often with an emphasis on spreading the field and getting him easily completions, letting him get into a rhythm. They're incredibly bland and boring and when you are asking a QB to pass only when the defense is expecting a pass you're really fucking him over. I think they only use Tarik Cohen as a receiver out of one or two formations, they never split him out wide, etc. It's like Mike Tice is back.

Say what?

(http://proplayerinsiders.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2002_04_01_david_carr_large.jpg)

Pretty sure Carr would have killed for the Bears' offensive line and anyone near as talented as Jordan Howard.
His receivers weren't any better than these clowns either.

Well I don't think it's possible for Mitch to play for the 2002 Texans, actually.

He could, if he buys the latest version of Madden.

But yeah. His receivers are absolute trash. Pace has done more good than bad, but the complete lack of depth at WR was a problem even before the injuries. And now with Miller gone, I don't know if they have any choice but to get Cohen more involved in the passing game.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: SKO on October 31, 2017, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 31, 2017, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 30, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Agreed. But he missed at least four or five passes yesterday that were under thrown, overthrown or behind his target. Wasn't very encouraging.

Very unhappy that Paced is allowing this coaching staff to try to teach this kid given they all may be out in 9 weeks. Still think they should have fired Fox before the year started or extended him so the coaching staff could focus on development and not on wins.

How many throws did they let him make the last two weeks before Sunday, 16 and 7 I think? Kid can't even get into a rhythm. I've definitely seen enough to be cautiously optimistic on the Trubisky Train.

He's caught in the absolute worst possible offense for a rookie QB. The talent around him is terrible and the coaching staff thinks "protecting" a young QB means throwing only on 3rd and long or limiting the number of attempts. Honestly they should throw early and often with an emphasis on spreading the field and getting him easily completions, letting him get into a rhythm. They're incredibly bland and boring and when you are asking a QB to pass only when the defense is expecting a pass you're really fucking him over. I think they only use Tarik Cohen as a receiver out of one or two formations, they never split him out wide, etc. It's like Mike Tice is back.

Say what?

(http://proplayerinsiders.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2002_04_01_david_carr_large.jpg)

Pretty sure Carr would have killed for the Bears' offensive line and anyone near as talented as Jordan Howard.
His receivers weren't any better than these clowns either.

Well I don't think it's possible for Mitch to play for the 2002 Texans, actually.

He could, if he buys the latest version of Madden.

But yeah. His receivers are absolute trash. Pace has done more good than bad, but the complete lack of depth at WR was a problem even before the injuries. And now with Miller gone, I don't know if they have any choice but to get Cohen more involved in the passing game.

I don't understand letting Alshon walk. It would have been a clear overpay and he's not exactly setting the world on fire in Philadelphia but the Bears could have front-loaded the deal and they'd at least have one quality NFL receiver. They have 9 million in cap room this year and 33 million in next year before any cuts, etc. They could easily have afforded him.
Title: Re: Bears 2017: The Quest for Draft Picks
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 01, 2017, 08:23:27 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 31, 2017, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 31, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 31, 2017, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 30, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 30, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 30, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
I don't know how you legitimately evaluate Trubisky with that supporting cast. That's the worst set of receivers I've ever seen, and the Bears have put out some really fucking shitty receiving groups. I'd rather see Knox and Hester back out there. Trubisky could suck, he could be good, I'm not drawing any conclusions until he has actual players around him.
Agreed. But he missed at least four or five passes yesterday that were under thrown, overthrown or behind his target. Wasn't very encouraging.

Very unhappy that Paced is allowing this coaching staff to try to teach this kid given they all may be out in 9 weeks. Still think they should have fired Fox before the year started or extended him so the coaching staff could focus on development and not on wins.

How many throws did they let him make the last two weeks before Sunday, 16 and 7 I think? Kid can't even get into a rhythm. I've definitely seen enough to be cautiously optimistic on the Trubisky Train.

He's caught in the absolute worst possible offense for a rookie QB. The talent around him is terrible and the coaching staff thinks "protecting" a young QB means throwing only on 3rd and long or limiting the number of attempts. Honestly they should throw early and often with an emphasis on spreading the field and getting him easily completions, letting him get into a rhythm. They're incredibly bland and boring and when you are asking a QB to pass only when the defense is expecting a pass you're really fucking him over. I think they only use Tarik Cohen as a receiver out of one or two formations, they never split him out wide, etc. It's like Mike Tice is back.

Say what?

(http://proplayerinsiders.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2002_04_01_david_carr_large.jpg)

Pretty sure Carr would have killed for the Bears' offensive line and anyone near as talented as Jordan Howard.
His receivers weren't any better than these clowns either.

Well I don't think it's possible for Mitch to play for the 2002 Texans, actually.

He could, if he buys the latest version of Madden.

But yeah. His receivers are absolute trash. Pace has done more good than bad, but the complete lack of depth at WR was a problem even before the injuries. And now with Miller gone, I don't know if they have any choice but to get Cohen more involved in the passing game.

I don't understand letting Alshon walk. It would have been a clear overpay and he's not exactly setting the world on fire in Philadelphia but the Bears could have front-loaded the deal and they'd at least have one quality NFL receiver. They have 9 million in cap room this year and 33 million in next year before any cuts, etc. They could easily have afforded him.

Hell, I'm still not convinced cutting the corpse of Victor Cruz wasn't a mistake.