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Quote from: Fork on October 29, 2014, 08:00:19 AM

Quote from: Tonker on October 28, 2014, 12:15:42 PM

Quote from: Bort on October 28, 2014, 08:04:45 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 27, 2014, 10:16:37 PM
Jack Bruce, 71.

That link served to remind me of one thing: Ginger Baker is a tremendous asshole.

I actually know Ginger Baker's daughter.  I guarantee that she thinks he's a bigger arsehole than any of us do, and that's saying something.

If you were ever going to make a supergroup of the biggest assholes in Rock, Ginger Baker would be the drummer. I'd make Sting the bassist, but despite all his pretentions he's supposed to actually be a decent guy.

Can you call a 2 person band a supergroup?

Quote from: Eli on October 24, 2014, 02:02:07 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.

I think in the postseason the manager makes a much bigger impact.

Great stuff here.

Particularly this.

"14. Jake Stinnett, RHP Video: Stinnett pitched for the first time mid-way through his junior year at Maryland and was good enough to get drafted, but took off in his senior year, flashing three above average pitches and hitting 96 mph from an athletic delivery, which prompted the Cubs to take him near the top of the 2nd round. The stuff varied in the spring as Stinnett's arm wasn't used to the workload, but he was at his best in instructs, has mid-rotation upside and a very fresh arm for a 22-year-old.  After signing and before being sent to an affiliate, Stinnett had a freak accident in Arizona on a funky hop from a fungo during PFP (pitcher fielding practice) hit him in the nuts; he needed surgery and nearly lost his testicle but I'm told he has a good sense of humor about the episode."

Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 02:50:38 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM


If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

You want me to waste my best reliever in the ninth inning of a tied elimination game? Don't make me laugh.

Or use my lefty specialist against 2 lefties... get a life, losers.

@BestFansStLouis has been glorious last night and today.

New We Were Promised Jetpacks album is worth a long listen.

Quote from: PenFoe on October 07, 2014, 01:58:32 PM
I can't believe BH hasn't made a Rudy Jaramillo *joke* yet.

He was great. That's no joke.

Not much needs to be said about this one.
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-get-ugly-in-clash-with-ferguson-proteste-1643282285

Quote from: PANK! on October 03, 2014, 09:07:37 AM

Quote from: Slaky on October 03, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
Lost in the jokes: Fork went to an NFL draft.

More than one, apparently.

GMs would call him into the draft room to get first hand injury recovery info.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 28, 2014, 04:55:16 PM

Quote from: ChuckD on September 28, 2014, 02:52:46 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 28, 2014, 01:07:32 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on September 27, 2014, 09:51:53 PM
Chris Rusin

Fuck.

Good pickup for the Rockies. When you come across a pitcher who posted a 4.63 FIP and 2.55 K/BB rate at AAA as a 27 year-old, boy-how you gotta get that guy.

The Rockies have sent a clear signal to the division and the rest of the league: they're serious, and they GET IT.

Yet they didn't want Jacob Turner, who has a ton more upside. The rockies are outside the box thinkers.

Quote from: PenFoe on September 19, 2014, 12:19:32 PM

Quote from: InternetApex on September 19, 2014, 12:06:37 PM

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 10:48:22 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on September 19, 2014, 10:44:47 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 10:39:28 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on September 19, 2014, 10:36:09 AM
I mean, there are people all over Twitter saying that Devin Hester shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

Go fight them ALL.

Devin is a hall of famer but I'm pretty pissed at him for throwing the entire Bears organization and Jay under the bus for him failing to be an offensive weapon in Chicago when they spent 5 years trying to make that happen against the better judgment of everyone but Apex.

Buttpuddle Vindication'd.

1074 yards, 10 TDs. NEVER FORGET

Hey, I might finally be right.

Also, I'm done congratulating Brandon Marshall for not hitting women anymore. He has to own his past and it seams like he is. But from what I've heard from professionals about Borderline Personality Disorder, the chance for a relapse is always eminent. Right now, while he's rich and famous, in the public eye with millions of people paying attention to him, he might have found certain outlets for his energy that keep him in good mental shape. My worry is that when his career is in decline or over, will the anger and frustration build up and cause him to do something terrible.

Should I disown him as a fan for something he hasn't done yet? Of course not. But I've doled out my last HJ for how well he's cleaned himself up and not hit any women lately.

My mother specializes in Borderline Personality Disorder. She's written books on it. It's not about relapse. It doesn't "go away."  But, it doesn't mean that he's going to start hitting women again either. It's treatable, like most other things.  It certainly heightens during times of greatest stress and trauma, but (and I think Marshall is acutely aware of this) it's always there, just a question of how well you can manage it and/or the quality of the treatment you're receiving.

Is there a blog where Apex and your mom talk about these disorders?

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 09:42:18 AM

Quote from: Eli on September 19, 2014, 09:39:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 09:33:44 AM
I mean, shit, Marshall was accused by another woman of hitting her in a nightclub right before he was traded to the Bears, then video evidence showed that she and others actually attacked Marshall and his wife. That's direct evidence that people actually have tried to accuse him of shit just to get money from him. I realize it seems in poor taste to ever seemingly "blame the victim" in these cases and he really should have just skipped this whole thing, but it does happen, it's happened to him, and I understand why he wigged out at seemingly having everyone viewing him as a bad guy again after all the work he's done to try to not be a bad guy.

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
It's an excuse that makes them victims and removes their own culpability and I don't buy it.

I understand what you're doing, but no charges were filed against Marshall in that case because the cops said the video evidence showed they were attacked, they attacked no one. It's not an excuse.

Again, Brandon has taken responsibility for most of the stuff he's done. He's in therapy. He served a suspension. He advocates for mental health awareness. He's done basically the exact track of rehabilitation that's being advocated by everyone for all of these other guys. Why keep harping on him when he seems to have righted his own ship?

Because he hijacked a press conference to talk 50 minutes about it for no reason?

Quote from: Eli on September 19, 2014, 09:39:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 09:33:44 AM
I mean, shit, Marshall was accused by another woman of hitting her in a nightclub right before he was traded to the Bears, then video evidence showed that she and others actually attacked Marshall and his wife. That's direct evidence that people actually have tried to accuse him of shit just to get money from him. I realize it seems in poor taste to ever seemingly "blame the victim" in these cases and he really should have just skipped this whole thing, but it does happen, it's happened to him, and I understand why he wigged out at seemingly having everyone viewing him as a bad guy again after all the work he's done to try to not be a bad guy.

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
It's an excuse that makes them victims and removes their own culpability and I don't buy it.

I just don't get why he thought it was a good idea to bring documentation to his press release. The letter that he read, she during testimony, said he "begged" her to write it to clear his name. The lawyer asking for money happens in every case when a settlement is presented, it's not extortion. The whole thing was stupid. If the driver of all this was how ESPN portrayed him, and if he's so concerned about the message, then he should have been apart of the production of it. You think Gloria Allred is going to back down now? She wasn't even talking about Brandon Marshall, she was going after the NFL. Now Marshall has put himself right into the middle again.

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 09:02:08 AM

Quote from: BH on September 19, 2014, 08:55:30 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 08:53:50 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on September 19, 2014, 08:39:45 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2014, 09:18:49 AM

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Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2014, 04:25:10 PM
And now Jonathan Dwyer gets arrested for domestic violence.

STOP. HITTING. PEOPLE.

These guys do lots and lots and lots and lots of PEDs and get hit in the head about 20 times on a good day.

What could go wrong?

When people talked about the head trauma issue over the past couple of years it was couched in a tone of, "Well, they know the risks (to themselves). They do what they want and they're well compensated."

What the NFL knew and what we should have suspected was that the trauma causes many of them to do terrible things. Same thing happens to people affected by war, auto accidents or other trauma.

This is why the NFL covered shit up. Too late to plug that hole now. This sport is not long for the planet.

I think that's far too convenient an answer. There are hundreds of football players with no domestic violence or really any other kind of violent issues. I do not buy that playing a violent sport makes someone some kind of violent animal. These are thinking, feeling human beings capable of more than just acting like cavemen.

I don't think concussions are to play here, either. I think sometimes people are just bad people. Adrian Peterson's mental faculties are perfectly fine. He clearly just thinks beating children with tree limbs is appropriate punishment. if that's a concussion side effect it's a damn peculiar one.

It's not merely playing a violent sport that makes a person a violent animal. The type of person who willfully dishes out and endures that much pain is abnormal however. As are prizefighters, marines, dirty cops etc. Add in abnormal amounts of performance enhancing testosterone and countless shots to the cranium and there could be a serious problem for a person like that. Now add in the fact that the constant pain drives some of these guys to indulge in painkillers and copious amounts of alcohol and you have a true recipe for disaster.

That's also true and yet there are hundreds of NFL players who do not beat women and children and in fact have lower arrest rates than the rest of the general population. I'm not saying it's not potentially a factor in some of these incidents, I'm saying it's way too simplistic and convenient an answer for the recent high profile cases, particularly Peterson and Rice, both whom seem more than capable of explaining their thought processes on such things. It's an excuse that makes them victims and removes their own culpability and I don't buy it.

Or Brandon Marshall.

Actually Brandon's press conference was a pretty good example of what I think is the problem with some of these guys, especially Peterson. Marshall, like Peterson, was whipped with an extension cord as a kid. A switch seems fairly tame in comparison, I suppose. He also saw his mother get sexually and physically abused, and admits he grew up with a  completely f*&ked view of what a relationship was supposed to be. Brandon seems to have benefitted greatly from therapy and medication and like he's trying to break the cycle, saying he'd never discipline his kids physically, etc. I think there's a larger % of  NFL players coming from awful backgrounds who don't know why what they're doing is so wrong than there are NFL players just snapping because the game has fucked their head.

Marshall's press conference wasn't long enough in my opinion. He did a great job making the girl seem guilty of the DV that happened and that he was a victim in all of this. He seems to really have taken ownership in his actions. Did I miss anything else?

Quote from: SKO on September 19, 2014, 08:53:50 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on September 19, 2014, 08:39:45 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 18, 2014, 09:18:49 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on September 18, 2014, 09:02:48 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 17, 2014, 04:25:10 PM
And now Jonathan Dwyer gets arrested for domestic violence.

STOP. HITTING. PEOPLE.

These guys do lots and lots and lots and lots of PEDs and get hit in the head about 20 times on a good day.

What could go wrong?

When people talked about the head trauma issue over the past couple of years it was couched in a tone of, "Well, they know the risks (to themselves). They do what they want and they're well compensated."

What the NFL knew and what we should have suspected was that the trauma causes many of them to do terrible things. Same thing happens to people affected by war, auto accidents or other trauma.

This is why the NFL covered shit up. Too late to plug that hole now. This sport is not long for the planet.

I think that's far too convenient an answer. There are hundreds of football players with no domestic violence or really any other kind of violent issues. I do not buy that playing a violent sport makes someone some kind of violent animal. These are thinking, feeling human beings capable of more than just acting like cavemen.

I don't think concussions are to play here, either. I think sometimes people are just bad people. Adrian Peterson's mental faculties are perfectly fine. He clearly just thinks beating children with tree limbs is appropriate punishment. if that's a concussion side effect it's a damn peculiar one.

It's not merely playing a violent sport that makes a person a violent animal. The type of person who willfully dishes out and endures that much pain is abnormal however. As are prizefighters, marines, dirty cops etc. Add in abnormal amounts of performance enhancing testosterone and countless shots to the cranium and there could be a serious problem for a person like that. Now add in the fact that the constant pain drives some of these guys to indulge in painkillers and copious amounts of alcohol and you have a true recipe for disaster.

That's also true and yet there are hundreds of NFL players who do not beat women and children and in fact have lower arrest rates than the rest of the general population. I'm not saying it's not potentially a factor in some of these incidents, I'm saying it's way too simplistic and convenient an answer for the recent high profile cases, particularly Peterson and Rice, both whom seem more than capable of explaining their thought processes on such things. It's an excuse that makes them victims and removes their own culpability and I don't buy it.

Or Brandon Marshall.