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Ponson, who made 13 starts for the Cardinals in 2006, is said to have slimmed down to 245 pounds and cranked up his fastball to 91 mph.

Assuming his listed height of 6'1 is correct, the BMI calculator gives him a score of 32.3. Not to worry guys, Sidney is still safely in the obese zone.

Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

BMI is a flawed formula, as it doesn't take into account muscle mass. So if you're an Adonis like Sidney Ponson, you can have 3-4% body fat and still register as morbidly obese.

[morpheus]

Ponson, who made 13 starts for the Cardinals in 2006, is said to have slimmed down to 245 pounds and cranked up his fastball to 91 mph.

Assuming his listed height of 6'1 is correct, the BMI calculator gives him a score of 32.3. Not to worry guys, Sidney is still safely in the obese zone.

Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

BMI is a flawed formula, as it doesn't take into account muscle mass. So if you're an Adonis like Sidney Ponson, you can have 3-4% body fat and still register as morbidly obese.

Indeed.  I saw Kurt Angle on Pros vs. Joes the other night, and he said he was 5'10", 215.  That gives him a BMI of 30.8.  He is not obese, and the guys who had to get in the ring with him seemed pretty intimidated.

Of course, a simple visual inspection tells you that Sidney Ponson is obese, fat, tubby, or whatever you use to describe a guy whose blood type is "gravy."

[Taylor]

A night on the town with Scott Spiezio:

Spiezio and his wife, Jennifer Spiezio, went to dinner Dec. 30 at Ruth's Chris Steak House in Irvine. There, the player allegedly had six Grey Goose vodkas with cranberry juice while his wife drank champagne. After dinner, they went to Ten, a restaurant in Newport Beach, where together they ordered more vodka, food and an energy drink.

Spiezio left Ten alone in the couple's silver 2004 BMW 745 LI. A short time later, witnesses told police they saw the car speeding, cutting across lanes and crossing into oncoming traffic before driving over a curb and crashing into a fence at Campus Drive and Carlson Avenue.

When police arrived, they found Spiezio's iPhone and Louis Vuitton wallet in the car. In the wallet were Spiezio's Illinois drivers license and credit cards.

In the meantime, Spiezio called a friend in the condo complex and asked him to meet him downstairs. The friend, Robert Stuart, saw that Spiezio appeared drunk and that his right hand was bleeding so he took him to his condo. There, Stuart and another friend of Spiezio's â€" former minor league pitcher Mike Parisi (not the Mike Parisi who is now with the Cardinals) â€" tried to clean and put Neosporin on the wound. Stuart also told police he called Spiezio's wife and asked her to come help.

As the two men were helping Spiezio, he began vomiting. Parisi asked Spiezio why he couldn't make it to the toilet. Angered, Spiezio grabbed Parisi and began wrestling him. Parisi tried to protect himself and Spiezio said, "You know I can kick your ass."

After releasing Parisi, the reports says Spiezio hit him in the left eye and then pursued him. He grabbed Parisi again and threw him against a wall, causing a dent in the drywall, according to statements in the file.

The records gave this account: Jennifer Spiezio answered the door and said police couldn't speak to her husband because he was asleep, sick with pneumonia. She told them she would check on him but came back a minute later and said she didn't want to wake him.

After police told her they believed her husband had been injured in a crash, she said they could come in but that she wanted to wake him first. She returned crying, said he wasn't in the room and that she didn't know where he'd gone but that they could look for him.

Three officers went inside and couldn't find him. "However," one report reads, "there was what appeared to be a storage closet that we were unable to gain entry into. … It seemed that the door was being held shut from the inside, or was locked from the inside."

Another report read: "It is believed that Scott Spiezio was hiding behind this door."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ADC06E002808D7B0862573FF0020FF79?OpenDocument

[Gil Gunderson]

A night on the town with Scott Spiezio:

Spiezio and his wife, Jennifer Spiezio, went to dinner Dec. 30 at Ruth's Chris Steak House in Irvine. There, the player allegedly had six Grey Goose vodkas with cranberry juice while his wife drank champagne. After dinner, they went to Ten, a restaurant in Newport Beach, where together they ordered more vodka, food and an energy drink.

Spiezio left Ten alone in the couple's silver 2004 BMW 745 LI. A short time later, witnesses told police they saw the car speeding, cutting across lanes and crossing into oncoming traffic before driving over a curb and crashing into a fence at Campus Drive and Carlson Avenue.

When police arrived, they found Spiezio's iPhone and Louis Vuitton wallet in the car. In the wallet were Spiezio's Illinois drivers license and credit cards.

In the meantime, Spiezio called a friend in the condo complex and asked him to meet him downstairs. The friend, Robert Stuart, saw that Spiezio appeared drunk and that his right hand was bleeding so he took him to his condo. There, Stuart and another friend of Spiezio's â€" former minor league pitcher Mike Parisi (not the Mike Parisi who is now with the Cardinals) â€" tried to clean and put Neosporin on the wound. Stuart also told police he called Spiezio's wife and asked her to come help.

As the two men were helping Spiezio, he began vomiting. Parisi asked Spiezio why he couldn't make it to the toilet. Angered, Spiezio grabbed Parisi and began wrestling him. Parisi tried to protect himself and Spiezio said, "You know I can kick your ass."

After releasing Parisi, the reports says Spiezio hit him in the left eye and then pursued him. He grabbed Parisi again and threw him against a wall, causing a dent in the drywall, according to statements in the file.

The records gave this account: Jennifer Spiezio answered the door and said police couldn't speak to her husband because he was asleep, sick with pneumonia. She told them she would check on him but came back a minute later and said she didn't want to wake him.

After police told her they believed her husband had been injured in a crash, she said they could come in but that she wanted to wake him first. She returned crying, said he wasn't in the room and that she didn't know where he'd gone but that they could look for him.

Three officers went inside and couldn't find him. "However," one report reads, "there was what appeared to be a storage closet that we were unable to gain entry into. … It seemed that the door was being held shut from the inside, or was locked from the inside."

Another report read: "It is believed that Scott Spiezio was hiding behind this door."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ADC06E002808D7B0862573FF0020FF79?OpenDocument

I'm more offended by his drink of choice.  Call up Johnny Walker.  He'll put some red hairs on your chest.

[Oleg]

A night on the town with Scott Spiezio:

Spiezio and his wife, Jennifer Spiezio, went to dinner Dec. 30 at Ruth's Chris Steak House in Irvine. There, the player allegedly had six Grey Goose vodkas with cranberry juice while his wife drank champagne. After dinner, they went to Ten, a restaurant in Newport Beach, where together they ordered more vodka, food and an energy drink.

Spiezio left Ten alone in the couple's silver 2004 BMW 745 LI. A short time later, witnesses told police they saw the car speeding, cutting across lanes and crossing into oncoming traffic before driving over a curb and crashing into a fence at Campus Drive and Carlson Avenue.

When police arrived, they found Spiezio's iPhone and Louis Vuitton wallet in the car. In the wallet were Spiezio's Illinois drivers license and credit cards.

In the meantime, Spiezio called a friend in the condo complex and asked him to meet him downstairs. The friend, Robert Stuart, saw that Spiezio appeared drunk and that his right hand was bleeding so he took him to his condo. There, Stuart and another friend of Spiezio's â€" former minor league pitcher Mike Parisi (not the Mike Parisi who is now with the Cardinals) â€" tried to clean and put Neosporin on the wound. Stuart also told police he called Spiezio's wife and asked her to come help.

As the two men were helping Spiezio, he began vomiting. Parisi asked Spiezio why he couldn't make it to the toilet. Angered, Spiezio grabbed Parisi and began wrestling him. Parisi tried to protect himself and Spiezio said, "You know I can kick your ass."

After releasing Parisi, the reports says Spiezio hit him in the left eye and then pursued him. He grabbed Parisi again and threw him against a wall, causing a dent in the drywall, according to statements in the file.

The records gave this account: Jennifer Spiezio answered the door and said police couldn't speak to her husband because he was asleep, sick with pneumonia. She told them she would check on him but came back a minute later and said she didn't want to wake him.

After police told her they believed her husband had been injured in a crash, she said they could come in but that she wanted to wake him first. She returned crying, said he wasn't in the room and that she didn't know where he'd gone but that they could look for him.

Three officers went inside and couldn't find him. "However," one report reads, "there was what appeared to be a storage closet that we were unable to gain entry into. … It seemed that the door was being held shut from the inside, or was locked from the inside."

Another report read: "It is believed that Scott Spiezio was hiding behind this door."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ADC06E002808D7B0862573FF0020FF79?OpenDocument

I'm more offended by his drink of choice.  Call up Johnny Walker.  He'll put some red hairs on your chest.

Dems fightin words, Gil.

[Gil Gunderson]

A night on the town with Scott Spiezio:

Spiezio and his wife, Jennifer Spiezio, went to dinner Dec. 30 at Ruth's Chris Steak House in Irvine. There, the player allegedly had six Grey Goose vodkas with cranberry juice while his wife drank champagne. After dinner, they went to Ten, a restaurant in Newport Beach, where together they ordered more vodka, food and an energy drink.

Spiezio left Ten alone in the couple's silver 2004 BMW 745 LI. A short time later, witnesses told police they saw the car speeding, cutting across lanes and crossing into oncoming traffic before driving over a curb and crashing into a fence at Campus Drive and Carlson Avenue.

When police arrived, they found Spiezio's iPhone and Louis Vuitton wallet in the car. In the wallet were Spiezio's Illinois drivers license and credit cards.

In the meantime, Spiezio called a friend in the condo complex and asked him to meet him downstairs. The friend, Robert Stuart, saw that Spiezio appeared drunk and that his right hand was bleeding so he took him to his condo. There, Stuart and another friend of Spiezio's â€" former minor league pitcher Mike Parisi (not the Mike Parisi who is now with the Cardinals) â€" tried to clean and put Neosporin on the wound. Stuart also told police he called Spiezio's wife and asked her to come help.

As the two men were helping Spiezio, he began vomiting. Parisi asked Spiezio why he couldn't make it to the toilet. Angered, Spiezio grabbed Parisi and began wrestling him. Parisi tried to protect himself and Spiezio said, "You know I can kick your ass."

After releasing Parisi, the reports says Spiezio hit him in the left eye and then pursued him. He grabbed Parisi again and threw him against a wall, causing a dent in the drywall, according to statements in the file.

The records gave this account: Jennifer Spiezio answered the door and said police couldn't speak to her husband because he was asleep, sick with pneumonia. She told them she would check on him but came back a minute later and said she didn't want to wake him.

After police told her they believed her husband had been injured in a crash, she said they could come in but that she wanted to wake him first. She returned crying, said he wasn't in the room and that she didn't know where he'd gone but that they could look for him.

Three officers went inside and couldn't find him. "However," one report reads, "there was what appeared to be a storage closet that we were unable to gain entry into. … It seemed that the door was being held shut from the inside, or was locked from the inside."

Another report read: "It is believed that Scott Spiezio was hiding behind this door."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ADC06E002808D7B0862573FF0020FF79?OpenDocument

I'm more offended by his drink of choice.  Call up Johnny Walker.  He'll put some red hairs on your chest.

Dems fightin words, Gil.

What?  Just saying, Grey Goose has got nothing on JW Blue.  My girlfriend's father bought me a bottle this past Christmas; nearly half of it is gone already.

[The Ghost of Desipio Past]

A night on the town with Scott Spiezio:

Spiezio and his wife, Jennifer Spiezio, went to dinner Dec. 30 at Ruth's Chris Steak House in Irvine. There, the player allegedly had six Grey Goose vodkas with cranberry juice while his wife drank champagne. After dinner, they went to Ten, a restaurant in Newport Beach, where together they ordered more vodka, food and an energy drink.

Spiezio left Ten alone in the couple's silver 2004 BMW 745 LI. A short time later, witnesses told police they saw the car speeding, cutting across lanes and crossing into oncoming traffic before driving over a curb and crashing into a fence at Campus Drive and Carlson Avenue.

When police arrived, they found Spiezio's iPhone and Louis Vuitton wallet in the car. In the wallet were Spiezio's Illinois drivers license and credit cards.

In the meantime, Spiezio called a friend in the condo complex and asked him to meet him downstairs. The friend, Robert Stuart, saw that Spiezio appeared drunk and that his right hand was bleeding so he took him to his condo. There, Stuart and another friend of Spiezio's â€" former minor league pitcher Mike Parisi (not the Mike Parisi who is now with the Cardinals) â€" tried to clean and put Neosporin on the wound. Stuart also told police he called Spiezio's wife and asked her to come help.

As the two men were helping Spiezio, he began vomiting. Parisi asked Spiezio why he couldn't make it to the toilet. Angered, Spiezio grabbed Parisi and began wrestling him. Parisi tried to protect himself and Spiezio said, "You know I can kick your ass."

After releasing Parisi, the reports says Spiezio hit him in the left eye and then pursued him. He grabbed Parisi again and threw him against a wall, causing a dent in the drywall, according to statements in the file.

The records gave this account: Jennifer Spiezio answered the door and said police couldn't speak to her husband because he was asleep, sick with pneumonia. She told them she would check on him but came back a minute later and said she didn't want to wake him.

After police told her they believed her husband had been injured in a crash, she said they could come in but that she wanted to wake him first. She returned crying, said he wasn't in the room and that she didn't know where he'd gone but that they could look for him.

Three officers went inside and couldn't find him. "However," one report reads, "there was what appeared to be a storage closet that we were unable to gain entry into. … It seemed that the door was being held shut from the inside, or was locked from the inside."

Another report read: "It is believed that Scott Spiezio was hiding behind this door."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ADC06E002808D7B0862573FF0020FF79?OpenDocument

I'm more offended by his drink of choice.  Call up Johnny Walker.  He'll put some red hairs on your chest.

Dems fightin words, Gil.

What?  Just saying, Grey Goose has got nothing on JW Blue.  My girlfriend's father bought me a bottle this past Christmas; nearly half of it is gone already.

Nearly half a bottle in 2 months?  Tony LaRussa is not impressed.  Nor is Lance Briggs.  Or Josh Hancock...  Or.....

[Gil Gunderson]

A night on the town with Scott Spiezio:

Spiezio and his wife, Jennifer Spiezio, went to dinner Dec. 30 at Ruth's Chris Steak House in Irvine. There, the player allegedly had six Grey Goose vodkas with cranberry juice while his wife drank champagne. After dinner, they went to Ten, a restaurant in Newport Beach, where together they ordered more vodka, food and an energy drink.

Spiezio left Ten alone in the couple's silver 2004 BMW 745 LI. A short time later, witnesses told police they saw the car speeding, cutting across lanes and crossing into oncoming traffic before driving over a curb and crashing into a fence at Campus Drive and Carlson Avenue.

When police arrived, they found Spiezio's iPhone and Louis Vuitton wallet in the car. In the wallet were Spiezio's Illinois drivers license and credit cards.

In the meantime, Spiezio called a friend in the condo complex and asked him to meet him downstairs. The friend, Robert Stuart, saw that Spiezio appeared drunk and that his right hand was bleeding so he took him to his condo. There, Stuart and another friend of Spiezio's â€" former minor league pitcher Mike Parisi (not the Mike Parisi who is now with the Cardinals) â€" tried to clean and put Neosporin on the wound. Stuart also told police he called Spiezio's wife and asked her to come help.

As the two men were helping Spiezio, he began vomiting. Parisi asked Spiezio why he couldn't make it to the toilet. Angered, Spiezio grabbed Parisi and began wrestling him. Parisi tried to protect himself and Spiezio said, "You know I can kick your ass."

After releasing Parisi, the reports says Spiezio hit him in the left eye and then pursued him. He grabbed Parisi again and threw him against a wall, causing a dent in the drywall, according to statements in the file.

The records gave this account: Jennifer Spiezio answered the door and said police couldn't speak to her husband because he was asleep, sick with pneumonia. She told them she would check on him but came back a minute later and said she didn't want to wake him.

After police told her they believed her husband had been injured in a crash, she said they could come in but that she wanted to wake him first. She returned crying, said he wasn't in the room and that she didn't know where he'd gone but that they could look for him.

Three officers went inside and couldn't find him. "However," one report reads, "there was what appeared to be a storage closet that we were unable to gain entry into. … It seemed that the door was being held shut from the inside, or was locked from the inside."

Another report read: "It is believed that Scott Spiezio was hiding behind this door."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ADC06E002808D7B0862573FF0020FF79?OpenDocument

I'm more offended by his drink of choice.  Call up Johnny Walker.  He'll put some red hairs on your chest.

Dems fightin words, Gil.

What?  Just saying, Grey Goose has got nothing on JW Blue.  My girlfriend's father bought me a bottle this past Christmas; nearly half of it is gone already.

Nearly half a bottle in 2 months?  Tony LaRussa is not impressed.  Nor is Lance Briggs.  Or Josh Hancock...  Or.....

You want to savor JW Blue for as long as you can.  I believe it is 50 year old scotch, perhaps more.

[butthead]

Why argue? Grey Goose...JW Blue....there's room for both of those and much much more in the wonderful world of booze.

[Gil Gunderson]

Why argue? Grey Goose...JW Blue....there's room for both of those and much much more in the wonderful world of booze.

Indeed.

Three cheers for alcohol!

[CubFaninHydePark]

Why argue? Grey Goose...JW Blue....there's room for both of those and much much more in the wonderful world of booze.

Indeed.

Three cheers for alcohol!

I was drinking some Dogfish Head 90 minute this past weekend.  And some Goose.  And some Crown.

I'll add a fourth.  And also note that the new Crown Royal - Cask No. 16 (whiskey aged in cognac casks) is out of this world good and well worth the $50 or so for the fifth.

[Internet Apex]

Ponson, who made 13 starts for the Cardinals in 2006, is said to have slimmed down to 245 pounds and cranked up his fastball to 91 mph.

Assuming his listed height of 6'1 is correct, the BMI calculator gives him a score of 32.3. Not to worry guys, Sidney is still safely in the obese zone.

Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

BMI is a flawed formula, as it doesn't take into account muscle mass. So if you're an Adonis like Sidney Ponson, you can have 3-4% body fat and still register as morbidly obese.

Indeed.  I saw Kurt Angle on Pros vs. Joes the other night, and he said he was 5'10", 215.  That gives him a BMI of 30.8.  He is not obese, and the guys who had to get in the ring with him seemed pretty intimidated.

Of course, a simple visual inspection tells you that Sidney Ponson is obese, fat, tubby, or whatever you use to describe a guy whose blood type is "gravy."

I love this thread.

[thehawk]

Why argue? Grey Goose...JW Blue....there's room for both of those and much much more in the wonderful world of booze.

Indeed.

Three cheers for alcohol!

Hip Hip Hooray!

[Dave B]

Why argue? Grey Goose...JW Blue....there's room for both of those and much much more in the wonderful world of booze.

Indeed.

Three cheers for alcohol!

I was drinking some Dogfish Head 90 minute this past weekend.  And some Goose.  And some Crown.

I'll add a fourth.  And also note that the new Crown Royal - Cask No. 16 (whiskey aged in cognac casks) is out of this world good and well worth the $50 or so for the fifth.

Cask 16 is the cat's ass. I love regular Crown, but this is stuff you savor. I don't think I've seen it in a fifth anywhere. My buddy is charging $12 a shot at his bar (regular Crown is $4.50).

[Taylor]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/E78AC9133C7843FE86257402001903DE?OpenDocument

Cardinals chairman Bill DeWitt insists the organization is not "permissive" about the presence of performance-enhancing drugs within the game but is ready to "move ahead" rather than fixate on findings that may or may not have been independently corroborated.

"I think we all agree the game has had a problem with certain substances. But I believe it's also fair to say Major League Baseball has reacted to the problem and taken steps to correct it," DeWitt said. "It's not something we condone. At the same time, you take it seriously, you address it and move on."

With five players cited, the Cardinals' is the only spring training clubhouse to have more than three players mentioned in the report, a statistic that has led to allegations of a laissez faire attitude within the organization.

"I don't think that's fair," Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak said Monday before heading to the team's game against the Washington Nationals. "If that's what some people want to write, they can run with it. But it's an inaccurate characterization."

"We did our due diligence," Mozeliak said about the Cardinals' research prior to signing Gonzalez to a conditional $750,000 contract on Feb. 4. "We asked ourselves: Is there something we're missing here? But obviously they were never able to prove anything as they didn't discipline him."

As long as they can't prove anything it must be OK.