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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #435 on: November 18, 2009, 12:18:52 PM »
Not only that, but do the Cubs even have $12MM (Figgins) + $5.5 MM (Lopez) to give these players?
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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #436 on: November 18, 2009, 12:36:13 PM »
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on November 18, 2009, 12:18:52 PM
Not only that, but do the Cubs even have $12MM (Figgins) + $5.5 MM (Lopez) to give these players?

If only Al Gore had invented a way to look stuff like this up.
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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #437 on: November 18, 2009, 12:39:08 PM »
Someone with more free time than me today can run the exact numbers, but
in general the Cubs payroll is pretty much unchanged from last year.  So, it's
not like there's any cash freeing up from contracts.  That said, what the Cubs
can afford to pay out is entirely up to the owners.  I personally think they'll
be <$140 going into opening day (and they'd try and be less if they had any
real flexibility down), but theoretically they could add whatever contracts they
wanted to.

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #438 on: November 18, 2009, 12:50:38 PM »
Quote from: Pre on November 18, 2009, 12:39:08 PM
Someone with more free time than me today can run the exact numbers, but
in general the Cubs payroll is pretty much unchanged from last year.  So, it's
not like there's any cash freeing up from contracts.  That said, what the Cubs
can afford to pay out is entirely up to the owners.  I personally think they'll
be <$140 going into opening day (and they'd try and be less if they had any
real flexibility down), but theoretically they could add whatever contracts they
wanted to.

Shawn Goldman (both ACB and BCB contributer) had this to say about "if" the Cubs basically kept the same roster.

QuoteLet's start with the 2009 roster. The Cubs have already committed ~$122,658,333 to 10 players from 2009 plus Luis Vizciano: Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Zambrano, Aramis Ramirez, Kosuke Fukudome, Ryan Dempster, Derrek Lee, Ted Lilly, Milton Bradley, Jeff Samardzija, and Aaron Miles. Al projected a total of $10,175,000 in payouts to the following 12 players: Geovany Soto, Koyie Hill, Jeff Baker, Ryan Theriot, Andres Blanco, Sam Fuld, Jake Fox, John Grabow, Carlos Marmol, Angel Guzman, Randy Wells, and Sean Marshall. Fontenot made $430,000 in 2009 so let's say he makes an even $500,000 in 2010. Heilman made $1,625,000 in 2009. Since these guys usually get raises, he'll probably make around $1,750,000 in 2010. Finally, there's Rich Harden. Most of the estimates I've seen have him getting awarded something in the neighborhood of $10M by arbiters. If you add it all up, that's a total team salary of... $144,958,333. That's our budgeted payroll for 2010. Now, let's continue down this path and see how good we can expect the Cubs to be if they trot out the 2009 team again in 2010.

(That was only plan A, btw)

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #439 on: November 18, 2009, 10:31:06 PM »
He uses Al Yellon's projection for the renewals/arbitration guys and refers to the payroll as "our payroll" so he's a double douche.

It's only "our" payroll if were paying it or getting paid by it.  It's definitely "their" payroll.

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #440 on: November 18, 2009, 10:54:35 PM »
Quote from: Andy on November 18, 2009, 10:31:06 PM
It's only "our" payroll if were paying it or getting paid by it.  It's definitely "their" payroll.

With Aaron Fucking Miles on that payroll, he probably just assumed that all no-talent hacks could be included on the payroll of the Chicago Cubs.
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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #441 on: November 19, 2009, 09:50:30 AM »
QuoteFree agent pitcher John Grabow and the Chicago Cubs are close to agreeing on a two-year contract worth nearly $7.5 million for the left-handed pitcher.
Link.

According to Gordo's Twitter, it's now official.

$7.5 million for a mediocre middle reliever?  Nice choice, Jim.

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #442 on: November 19, 2009, 11:11:31 AM »
Quote from: Eli on November 19, 2009, 09:50:30 AM
QuoteFree agent pitcher John Grabow and the Chicago Cubs are close to agreeing on a two-year contract worth nearly $7.5 million for the left-handed pitcher.
Link.

According to Gordo's Twitter, it's now official.

$7.5 million for a mediocre middle reliever?  Nice choice, Jim.

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #443 on: November 19, 2009, 11:40:06 AM »
Quote from: Armchair_QB on November 19, 2009, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: Eli on November 19, 2009, 09:50:30 AM
QuoteFree agent pitcher John Grabow and the Chicago Cubs are close to agreeing on a two-year contract worth nearly $7.5 million for the left-handed pitcher.
Link.

According to Gordo's Twitter, it's now official.

$7.5 million for a mediocre middle reliever?  Nice choice, Jim.

I thought they were broke.

According to Fangraphs it's a waste of cash.

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #444 on: November 19, 2009, 01:05:26 PM »
Quote from: BH on November 19, 2009, 11:40:06 AM
According to Fangraphs it's a waste of cash.

Forget fangraphs, this is a waste of cash in the According to Jim range.

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #445 on: November 19, 2009, 01:29:11 PM »
Is this the part of the thread where Oleg defends Jim Hendry?

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #446 on: November 19, 2009, 01:36:22 PM »
This is the part where I post that I thought Grabow was pretty decent and that there weren't very many other left-handed options in the organization. So why not re-sign Grabow? Because Marshall's good? But I think they should possibly trade Marshall.

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #447 on: November 19, 2009, 01:37:03 PM »
Quote from: R-V on November 19, 2009, 01:29:11 PM
Is this the part of the thread where Oleg defends Jim Hendry?

Can we skip to the part where Tom Ricketts et al defend Jim Hendry?

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #448 on: November 19, 2009, 02:14:20 PM »
Quote from: R-V on November 19, 2009, 01:29:11 PM
Is this the part of the thread where Oleg defends Jim Hendry?

3.75MM for 40 IP of specialty bullpen work?  Fuck Hendry...

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Re: The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11
« Reply #449 on: November 19, 2009, 02:26:56 PM »
Quote from: Pre on November 19, 2009, 01:05:26 PM
Quote from: BH on November 19, 2009, 11:40:06 AM
According to Fangraphs it's a waste of cash.

Forget fangraphs, this is a waste of cash in the According to Jim range.

I smell another hilarious Kurt Evans Photoshop in there someplace.