Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread

[Powdered Toast Man]

Donnie Dewees is 6 for 20 with 4 2B, 2 BB and 3 K.

Ian Happ is at .262/.396/.524/.920 with 2 2B, 3 HR, 4 SB, 10 BB and 12 K.

Gleybor Torres at .320/.387/.414/.801 with 12 2B, 3 3B, 2 HR, 28 BB and 60 K.

Carson Sands threw 6 good innings yesterday. His ERA is 2.81 and WHIP under 0.9 in 16 IP.

That's a very, very nice start for Happ.

Yeah, this college hitter talent accumulation is a good strategy. Happ is 20, Dewees is 21. I hope they can finish the year in South Bend or Myrtle Beach. Dewees is a first round talent from most accounts...good job, Cubs.

Anybody know anything more about the 3rd rounder?

[Powdered Toast Man]

Welp, Ian Happ has been promoted to South Bend. Donnie Dewees has hit his first professional HR as well.

Happ: .283/.408/.491/.898 4 HR, 11 RBI, 8 2B, 1 3B with 23 BB and 28 K. Whoa.

Dewees: .230/.297/.340/.637 1 HR, 11 RBI, 8 2B, 9 BB and 21 K.

[Quality Start Machine]

When does Chesny Young become a thing?

42 straight games of reaching base seems like a significant amount.

[Yeti]

When does Chesny Young become a thing?

42 straight games of reaching base seems like a significant amount.

Already a thing, I think. He doesn't have any power, but he's hit over .300 every step of the way (aside from 2 games in the Arizona Rk league). Probably not a guy that'll matter. More likely a trade piece somewhere along the line

[Quality Start Machine]

When does Chesny Young become a thing?

42 straight games of reaching base seems like a significant amount.

Already a thing, I think. He doesn't have any power, but he's hit over .300 every step of the way (aside from 2 games in the Arizona Rk league). Probably not a guy that'll matter. More likely a trade piece somewhere along the line

I've only seen him play 2B. If he can play 3B and/or SS as well, he would have some value as a spare infielder.

[Powdered Toast Man]

When does Chesny Young become a thing?

42 straight games of reaching base seems like a significant amount.

Already a thing, I think. He doesn't have any power, but he's hit over .300 every step of the way (aside from 2 games in the Arizona Rk league). Probably not a guy that'll matter. More likely a trade piece somewhere along the line

I've only seen him play 2B. If he can play 3B and/or SS as well, he would have some value as a spare infielder.

I guess in four or five years I'll be the asshole defending Chesny Young.

[Eli]

[whispers] Since June 1, Albert Almora has a .769 OPS and something approaching a 1:1 K/BB ratio. There's still a lot of progress to be made to think he can crack even a ~.700 OPS in the majors (the totally arbitrary mark I'm setting for him to be useful in combination with his defense), but it's nice to see him trending in a positive direction at the plate. [/whispers]

[SKO]

[whispers] Since June 1, Albert Almora has a .769 OPS and something approaching a 1:1 K/BB ratio. There's still a lot of progress to be made to think he can crack even a ~.700 OPS in the majors (the totally arbitrary mark I'm setting for him to be useful in combination with his defense), but it's nice to see him trending in a positive direction at the plate. [/whispers]

At the very least if he wants to finish this season hitting well I'm sure a gold glove caliber centerfielder who can hit some line drives into the gaps will appeal to the Padres and their massive outfield in the offseason trade talks for Tyson Ross.

[R-V]

[whispers] Since June 1, Albert Almora has a .769 OPS and something approaching a 1:1 K/BB ratio. There's still a lot of progress to be made to think he can crack even a ~.700 OPS in the majors (the totally arbitrary mark I'm setting for him to be useful in combination with his defense), but it's nice to see him trending in a positive direction at the plate. [/whispers]

This is totally DRLP to my 7 followers.

I think .700 sounds about right though, because of my totally baseless assumption that Almora's defense would be almost-but-not-quite-as-good as Kiermaier's.

And let's assume for a minute an up the middle defense of Russell/Baez/Almora (ignoring catcher for the moment since we don't know if that'll be Schwarber, Contreras, or someone else) and that Baez's 2B defense would be as good or better than he showed in last year's short stint; what would be the last Cubs team that was that strong up the middle defensively?

[Slaky]

[whispers] Since June 1, Albert Almora has a .769 OPS and something approaching a 1:1 K/BB ratio. There's still a lot of progress to be made to think he can crack even a ~.700 OPS in the majors (the totally arbitrary mark I'm setting for him to be useful in combination with his defense), but it's nice to see him trending in a positive direction at the plate. [/whispers]

This is totally DRLP to my 7 followers.

I think .700 sounds about right though, because of my totally baseless assumption that Almora's defense would be almost-but-not-quite-as-good as Kiermaier's.

And let's assume for a minute an up the middle defense of Russell/Baez/Almora (ignoring catcher for the moment since we don't know if that'll be Schwarber, Contreras, or someone else) and that Baez's 2B defense would be as good or better than he showed in last year's short stint; what would be the last Cubs team that was that strong up the middle defensively?

Who's the leadoff man in that configuration assuming Rizzo and Bryant at first? Russell would have to hit .300 for that to work.

[Eli]

I think .700 sounds about right though, because of my totally baseless assumption that Almora's defense would be almost-but-not-quite-as-good as Kiermaier's.

That's a tall order, even for a baseless assumption, but for rough WAR numbers, it works fine here. A poor man's Kiermaier could still be a 2.5-win player, which isn't too bad for someone cost-controlled.

[R-V]

[whispers] Since June 1, Albert Almora has a .769 OPS and something approaching a 1:1 K/BB ratio. There's still a lot of progress to be made to think he can crack even a ~.700 OPS in the majors (the totally arbitrary mark I'm setting for him to be useful in combination with his defense), but it's nice to see him trending in a positive direction at the plate. [/whispers]

This is totally DRLP to my 7 followers.

I think .700 sounds about right though, because of my totally baseless assumption that Almora's defense would be almost-but-not-quite-as-good as Kiermaier's.

And let's assume for a minute an up the middle defense of Russell/Baez/Almora (ignoring catcher for the moment since we don't know if that'll be Schwarber, Contreras, or someone else) and that Baez's 2B defense would be as good or better than he showed in last year's short stint; what would be the last Cubs team that was that strong up the middle defensively?

Who's the leadoff man in that configuration assuming Rizzo and Bryant at first? Russell would have to hit .300 for that to work.

Spitballing here for mid-2016/2017ish. For what it's worth, Russell put up a .377 OBP in the minors. Split the difference between that and the .300ish he's put up in the majors this year and that's right about where Dex is now at leadoff.

Russell SS
Schwarber LF
Bryant 3B
Rizzo 1B
Soler RF
Baez 2B
Contreras? C
Price/Arrieta/Lester/Zimmerman/Cueto P
Almora CF

[SKO]

Here's an actual attempt at a contribution: I think SKO's EPIC MESSAGE BOARD MELTDOWN can be at least partially attributed to the approach that some Cubs fans take regarding all these prospects, namely the slotting in of guys who haven't even made it to AAA yet into certain positions on the big league team.

"Well a year or so from now we'll be looking at Almora in CF and Schwarber at catcher which will put Bryant in LF and then you've gotta figure out if Baez or Castro or Russell plays third base..."

The big league team has sucked for so long that all we've been left with is prospect watching, which leads to some unhealthy expectations on translating the minor league success (or in Almora's case, not-totally-failing) that we've watched so intently into major league success.

I don't think Huey or anyone on this messageboard has that attitude

[R-V]

Here's an actual attempt at a contribution: I think SKO's EPIC MESSAGE BOARD MELTDOWN can be at least partially attributed to the approach that some Cubs fans take regarding all these prospects, namely the slotting in of guys who haven't even made it to AAA yet into certain positions on the big league team.

"Well a year or so from now we'll be looking at Almora in CF and Schwarber at catcher which will put Bryant in LF and then you've gotta figure out if Baez or Castro or Russell plays third base..."

The big league team has sucked for so long that all we've been left with is prospect watching, which leads to some unhealthy expectations on translating the minor league success (or in Almora's case, not-totally-failing) that we've watched so intently into major league success.

I don't think Huey or anyone on this messageboard has that attitude

Roasting accepted.

[SKO]

Here's an actual attempt at a contribution: I think SKO's EPIC MESSAGE BOARD MELTDOWN can be at least partially attributed to the approach that some Cubs fans take regarding all these prospects, namely the slotting in of guys who haven't even made it to AAA yet into certain positions on the big league team.

"Well a year or so from now we'll be looking at Almora in CF and Schwarber at catcher which will put Bryant in LF and then you've gotta figure out if Baez or Castro or Russell plays third base..."

The big league team has sucked for so long that all we've been left with is prospect watching, which leads to some unhealthy expectations on translating the minor league success (or in Almora's case, not-totally-failing) that we've watched so intently into major league success.

I don't think Huey or anyone on this messageboard has that attitude

Roasting accepted.

I don't even mind your spitballing, it was just too fucking perfect.