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His K rate is down, and his walk rate is up. He's not being the soulcrusher we hoped he would be out of the gates, especially considering last year's NLDS performance, but the Cubs are going in dry on everyone, so they can carry his bat while he figures it out.

Nothing is fucked here, dude.
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
His K rate is down, and his walk rate is up. He's not being the soulcrusher we hoped he would be out of the gates, especially considering last year's NLDS performance, but the Cubs are going in dry on everyone, so they can carry his bat while he figures it out.

Nothing is fucked here, dude.

Gotta say, however, much as I love me some Jorge, it's hard not to think of him as the most expendable player right now.  Defensively, the team is better off with Baez at 3B and Bryant in LF than with Bryant at 3B and Soler in LF--both positions are improved with the former alignment.  If Baez continues to hit, it's hard to imagine a role on this team for Jorge.  We knew this day would come eventually for one of their young players, and as things are developing it's becoming clear, to me at least, that the first young player to be launched for reinforcements is going to be Our Man Jorge.  :(
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Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
His K rate is down, and his walk rate is up. He's not being the soulcrusher we hoped he would be out of the gates, especially considering last year's NLDS performance, but the Cubs are going in dry on everyone, so they can carry his bat while he figures it out.

Nothing is fucked here, dude.

Gotta say, however, much as I love me some Jorge, it's hard not to think of him as the most expendable player right now.  Defensively, the team is better off with Baez at 3B and Bryant in LF than with Bryant at 3B and Soler in LF--both positions are improved with the former alignment.  If Baez continues to hit, it's hard to imagine a role on this team for Jorge.  We knew this day would come eventually for one of their young players, and as things are developing it's becoming clear, to me at least, that the first young player to be launched for reinforcements is going to be Our Man Jorge.  :(

All of this is reasonable. I've been reminding myself that it's pretty damn greedy to expect that *all* of the young guys would live up to expectations. I don't think it's crazy to say that we know Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Baez are all starter-level MLB players at a minimum, with perennial All-Star potential. That's a hell of a hit rate if they don't hit on Jorge.

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Quote from: R-V on May 09, 2016, 09:06:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
His K rate is down, and his walk rate is up. He's not being the soulcrusher we hoped he would be out of the gates, especially considering last year's NLDS performance, but the Cubs are going in dry on everyone, so they can carry his bat while he figures it out.

Nothing is fucked here, dude.

Gotta say, however, much as I love me some Jorge, it's hard not to think of him as the most expendable player right now.  Defensively, the team is better off with Baez at 3B and Bryant in LF than with Bryant at 3B and Soler in LF--both positions are improved with the former alignment.  If Baez continues to hit, it's hard to imagine a role on this team for Jorge.  We knew this day would come eventually for one of their young players, and as things are developing it's becoming clear, to me at least, that the first young player to be launched for reinforcements is going to be Our Man Jorge.  :(

All of this is reasonable. I've been reminding myself that it's pretty damn greedy to expect that *all* of the young guys would live up to expectations. I don't think it's crazy to say that we know Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Baez are all starter-level MLB players at a minimum, with perennial All-Star potential. That's a hell of a hit rate if they don't hit on Jorge.

And I'm not necessarily saying that Jorge won't live up to the expectations.  I think there's a good chance he will in fact--his historic performance in last season's postseason makes for a good argument that he will.

I'm just saying that whether his expectations become fulfilled or unfulfilled, I don't think we're going to find out while he's wearing the blue pinstripes.
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Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 09, 2016, 09:06:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
His K rate is down, and his walk rate is up. He's not being the soulcrusher we hoped he would be out of the gates, especially considering last year's NLDS performance, but the Cubs are going in dry on everyone, so they can carry his bat while he figures it out.

Nothing is fucked here, dude.

Gotta say, however, much as I love me some Jorge, it's hard not to think of him as the most expendable player right now.  Defensively, the team is better off with Baez at 3B and Bryant in LF than with Bryant at 3B and Soler in LF--both positions are improved with the former alignment.  If Baez continues to hit, it's hard to imagine a role on this team for Jorge.  We knew this day would come eventually for one of their young players, and as things are developing it's becoming clear, to me at least, that the first young player to be launched for reinforcements is going to be Our Man Jorge.  :(

All of this is reasonable. I've been reminding myself that it's pretty damn greedy to expect that *all* of the young guys would live up to expectations. I don't think it's crazy to say that we know Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Baez are all starter-level MLB players at a minimum, with perennial All-Star potential. That's a hell of a hit rate if they don't hit on Jorge.

And I'm not necessarily saying that Jorge won't live up to the expectations.  I think there's a good chance he will in fact--his historic performance in last season's postseason makes for a good argument that he will.

I'm just saying that whether his expectations become fulfilled or unfulfilled, I don't think we're going to find out while he's wearing the blue pinstripes.

Dealing him while his value is at an all-time low seems like a poor move though. I'm bracing myself for some bad news about him eventually but I doubt if I'll take it well. (||)
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Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 09, 2016, 09:06:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
His K rate is down, and his walk rate is up. He's not being the soulcrusher we hoped he would be out of the gates, especially considering last year's NLDS performance, but the Cubs are going in dry on everyone, so they can carry his bat while he figures it out.

Nothing is fucked here, dude.

Gotta say, however, much as I love me some Jorge, it's hard not to think of him as the most expendable player right now.  Defensively, the team is better off with Baez at 3B and Bryant in LF than with Bryant at 3B and Soler in LF--both positions are improved with the former alignment.  If Baez continues to hit, it's hard to imagine a role on this team for Jorge.  We knew this day would come eventually for one of their young players, and as things are developing it's becoming clear, to me at least, that the first young player to be launched for reinforcements is going to be Our Man Jorge.  :(

All of this is reasonable. I've been reminding myself that it's pretty damn greedy to expect that *all* of the young guys would live up to expectations. I don't think it's crazy to say that we know Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Baez are all starter-level MLB players at a minimum, with perennial All-Star potential. That's a hell of a hit rate if they don't hit on Jorge.

And I'm not necessarily saying that Jorge won't live up to the expectations.  I think there's a good chance he will in fact--his historic performance in last season's postseason makes for a good argument that he will.

I'm just saying that whether his expectations become fulfilled or unfulfilled, I don't think we're going to find out while he's wearing the blue pinstripes.

Dealing him while his value is at an all-time low seems like a poor move though. I'm bracing myself for some bad news about him eventually but I doubt if I'll take it well. (||)

I wouldn't say his value's at an all-time low.  He's just gotten off to a slow start and hasn't played every day.  I think he's done enough in the past to get fair value--hell, they could probably still sell high based on his weeklong dominance of playoff pitching last year.  Besides, a deal's not likely going to happen before July so perhaps Jorge has time to elevate his numbers by then.  I just don't see how he'll do anything else during that time to suddenly render him inexpendable.
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Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 09, 2016, 09:06:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
His K rate is down, and his walk rate is up. He's not being the soulcrusher we hoped he would be out of the gates, especially considering last year's NLDS performance, but the Cubs are going in dry on everyone, so they can carry his bat while he figures it out.

Nothing is fucked here, dude.

Gotta say, however, much as I love me some Jorge, it's hard not to think of him as the most expendable player right now.  Defensively, the team is better off with Baez at 3B and Bryant in LF than with Bryant at 3B and Soler in LF--both positions are improved with the former alignment.  If Baez continues to hit, it's hard to imagine a role on this team for Jorge.  We knew this day would come eventually for one of their young players, and as things are developing it's becoming clear, to me at least, that the first young player to be launched for reinforcements is going to be Our Man Jorge.  :(

All of this is reasonable. I've been reminding myself that it's pretty damn greedy to expect that *all* of the young guys would live up to expectations. I don't think it's crazy to say that we know Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Baez are all starter-level MLB players at a minimum, with perennial All-Star potential. That's a hell of a hit rate if they don't hit on Jorge.

And I'm not necessarily saying that Jorge won't live up to the expectations.  I think there's a good chance he will in fact--his historic performance in last season's postseason makes for a good argument that he will.

I'm just saying that whether his expectations become fulfilled or unfulfilled, I don't think we're going to find out while he's wearing the blue pinstripes.

Dealing him while his value is at an all-time low seems like a poor move though. I'm bracing myself for some bad news about him eventually but I doubt if I'll take it well. (||)

That's not how things work around here. Castro should be your most recent reminder. Traded only after he tore it up for a couple months on a big stage.

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Quote from: Slaky on May 09, 2016, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 09, 2016, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 09, 2016, 09:06:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 09, 2016, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 09, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
His K rate is down, and his walk rate is up. He's not being the soulcrusher we hoped he would be out of the gates, especially considering last year's NLDS performance, but the Cubs are going in dry on everyone, so they can carry his bat while he figures it out.

Nothing is fucked here, dude.

Gotta say, however, much as I love me some Jorge, it's hard not to think of him as the most expendable player right now.  Defensively, the team is better off with Baez at 3B and Bryant in LF than with Bryant at 3B and Soler in LF--both positions are improved with the former alignment.  If Baez continues to hit, it's hard to imagine a role on this team for Jorge.  We knew this day would come eventually for one of their young players, and as things are developing it's becoming clear, to me at least, that the first young player to be launched for reinforcements is going to be Our Man Jorge.  :(

All of this is reasonable. I've been reminding myself that it's pretty damn greedy to expect that *all* of the young guys would live up to expectations. I don't think it's crazy to say that we know Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Baez are all starter-level MLB players at a minimum, with perennial All-Star potential. That's a hell of a hit rate if they don't hit on Jorge.

And I'm not necessarily saying that Jorge won't live up to the expectations.  I think there's a good chance he will in fact--his historic performance in last season's postseason makes for a good argument that he will.

I'm just saying that whether his expectations become fulfilled or unfulfilled, I don't think we're going to find out while he's wearing the blue pinstripes.

Dealing him while his value is at an all-time low seems like a poor move though. I'm bracing myself for some bad news about him eventually but I doubt if I'll take it well. (||)

That's not how things work around here. Castro should be your most recent reminder. Traded only after he tore it up for a couple months on a big stage.

And if Soler gets launched, it will be for a piece that will get the Cubs closer (or over the hump) to a parade in November. You know every seller will call the Cubs, and they're all looking at Soler.
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This is the part where I'd do a photoshop of Soler impaled by a giant fork.
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I'm a little worried.
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Quote from: Canadouche on May 12, 2016, 10:07:49 AM
This is the part where I'd do a photoshop of Soler impaled by a giant fork.

Mitch Soler?
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on May 12, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on May 12, 2016, 10:07:49 AM
This is the part where I'd do a photoshop of Soler impaled by a giant fork.

Mitch Soler?

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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 12, 2016, 11:12:48 AM
I'm a little worried.

About Soler or the possibility of Kurtshopped image?

I'm not going to lie, I'm a fucking mess over both.
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