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ChuckD

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #480 on: July 29, 2015, 04:58:33 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Also, you guys probably won't be interested to learn that Starlin now has the third most games played among players who played their entire careers for the Cubs.

Here's everyone with 162+.

Rank Name GP
1 Ernie Banks 2528
2 Stan Hack 1938
3 Starlin Castro 838
4 Bill Lange 811
5 Ch. Hollocher 760
6 Lennie Merullo 639
7 Don Johnson 511
8 Bob Will 410
9 Bill Serena 408
10 Ken Hubbs 324
11 Jiggs Parrott 318
12 Jim Connor 293
13 Footsie Blair 246
14 Roosevelt Brown 228
15 Gene Hiser 206
16 Denver Grigsby 199
17 Clay Bryant 185
18 Carl Lundgren 183
19 Junior Lake 172
20 Babe Twombly 165
21 Micah Hoffpauir 162


Santo ain't a true Career Cub like Ken Hubbs. That guy literally died rather than play for another team.

Ryne Sandberg? The guy's practically a Phillie. Well, not any more. But he was before he wasn't before he was. And now he isn't any more.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #481 on: July 30, 2015, 11:24:03 AM »
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Also, you guys probably won't be interested to learn that Starlin now has the third most games played among players who played their entire careers for the Cubs.

Here's everyone with 162+.

Rank Name GP
1 Ernie Banks 2528
2 Stan Hack 1938
3 Starlin Castro 838
4 Bill Lange 811
5 Ch. Hollocher 760
6 Lennie Merullo 639
7 Don Johnson 511
8 Bob Will 410
9 Bill Serena 408
10 Ken Hubbs 324
11 Jiggs Parrott 318
12 Jim Connor 293
13 Footsie Blair 246
14 Roosevelt Brown 228
15 Gene Hiser 206
16 Denver Grigsby 199
17 Clay Bryant 185
18 Carl Lundgren 183
19 Junior Lake 172
20 Babe Twombly 165
21 Micah Hoffpauir 162


Santo ain't a true Career Cub like Ken Hubbs. That guy literally died rather than play for another team.

Ryne Sandberg? The guy's practically a Phillie. Well, not any more. But he was before he wasn't before he was. And now he isn't any more.

Can we talk about Jiggs Parrott?

SKO

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #482 on: July 30, 2015, 11:29:46 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Also, you guys probably won't be interested to learn that Starlin now has the third most games played among players who played their entire careers for the Cubs.

Here's everyone with 162+.

Rank Name GP
1 Ernie Banks 2528
2 Stan Hack 1938
3 Starlin Castro 838
4 Bill Lange 811
5 Ch. Hollocher 760
6 Lennie Merullo 639
7 Don Johnson 511
8 Bob Will 410
9 Bill Serena 408
10 Ken Hubbs 324
11 Jiggs Parrott 318
12 Jim Connor 293
13 Footsie Blair 246
14 Roosevelt Brown 228
15 Gene Hiser 206
16 Denver Grigsby 199
17 Clay Bryant 185
18 Carl Lundgren 183
19 Junior Lake 172
20 Babe Twombly 165
21 Micah Hoffpauir 162


Santo ain't a true Career Cub like Ken Hubbs. That guy literally died rather than play for another team.

Ryne Sandberg? The guy's practically a Phillie. Well, not any more. But he was before he wasn't before he was. And now he isn't any more.

Can we talk about Jiggs Parrott?



He's such a perfect example of hilarious old-timey baseball names that his B-Ref picture looks like a woodcut from a Harper's Magazine article about syphilis in the Union Army.
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ChuckD

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #483 on: July 30, 2015, 11:32:00 AM »
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 11:29:46 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Also, you guys probably won't be interested to learn that Starlin now has the third most games played among players who played their entire careers for the Cubs.

Here's everyone with 162+.

Rank Name GP
1 Ernie Banks 2528
2 Stan Hack 1938
3 Starlin Castro 838
4 Bill Lange 811
5 Ch. Hollocher 760
6 Lennie Merullo 639
7 Don Johnson 511
8 Bob Will 410
9 Bill Serena 408
10 Ken Hubbs 324
11 Jiggs Parrott 318
12 Jim Connor 293
13 Footsie Blair 246
14 Roosevelt Brown 228
15 Gene Hiser 206
16 Denver Grigsby 199
17 Clay Bryant 185
18 Carl Lundgren 183
19 Junior Lake 172
20 Babe Twombly 165
21 Micah Hoffpauir 162


Santo ain't a true Career Cub like Ken Hubbs. That guy literally died rather than play for another team.

Ryne Sandberg? The guy's practically a Phillie. Well, not any more. But he was before he wasn't before he was. And now he isn't any more.

Can we talk about Jiggs Parrott?



He's such a perfect example of hilarious old-timey baseball names that his B-Ref picture looks like a woodcut from a Harper's Magazine article about syphilis in the Union Army.

He really is. He even died of tuberculosis. Such an authentic way for an old-timey baseball guy to die.

ChuckD

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #484 on: July 30, 2015, 11:35:44 AM »
While looking in to Jiggs Parrott, I discovered Ed Delahanty had a really great old-timey baseball death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Delahanty#Death

QuoteDelahanty died when he was swept over Niagara Falls in early July 1903. He was apparently kicked off a train by the train's conductor for being drunk and disorderly. The conductor said Delahanty was brandishing a straight razor and threatening passengers after he consumed five whiskies.[8] After being kicked off the train, Delahanty started his way across the International Bridge connecting Buffalo, NY with Fort Erie (near Niagara Falls) and fell or jumped off the bridge (some accounts say Ed was yelling about death that night).[9] Whether "Big Ed" died from his plunge over the Falls or drowned on the way to the Falls is uncertain.

A study of the tragedy appeared with the publication of July 2, 1903: The Mysterious Death of Big Ed Delahanty, by Mike Sowell (New York, Toronto, MacMillan Publishing Co., 1992). Sowell presents the evidence of a drunken accident, suicide, and even possibly a robbery-murder (there were reports of a mysterious man following Delahanty).

"Big" Ed was 6'1" and 170 pounds.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #485 on: July 30, 2015, 11:37:56 AM »
Quote from: ChuckD on July 30, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 11:29:46 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Also, you guys probably won't be interested to learn that Starlin now has the third most games played among players who played their entire careers for the Cubs.

Here's everyone with 162+.

Rank Name GP
1 Ernie Banks 2528
2 Stan Hack 1938
3 Starlin Castro 838
4 Bill Lange 811
5 Ch. Hollocher 760
6 Lennie Merullo 639
7 Don Johnson 511
8 Bob Will 410
9 Bill Serena 408
10 Ken Hubbs 324
11 Jiggs Parrott 318
12 Jim Connor 293
13 Footsie Blair 246
14 Roosevelt Brown 228
15 Gene Hiser 206
16 Denver Grigsby 199
17 Clay Bryant 185
18 Carl Lundgren 183
19 Junior Lake 172
20 Babe Twombly 165
21 Micah Hoffpauir 162


Santo ain't a true Career Cub like Ken Hubbs. That guy literally died rather than play for another team.

Ryne Sandberg? The guy's practically a Phillie. Well, not any more. But he was before he wasn't before he was. And now he isn't any more.

Can we talk about Jiggs Parrott?



He's such a perfect example of hilarious old-timey baseball names that his B-Ref picture looks like a woodcut from a Harper's Magazine article about syphilis in the Union Army.

He really is. He even died of tuberculosis consumption*. Such an authentic way for an old-timey baseball guy to die.

*- if we wanna be proper and old-timey about it.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

SKO

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #486 on: July 30, 2015, 11:40:39 AM »
Quote from: ChuckD on July 30, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
While looking in to Jiggs Parrott, I discovered Ed Delahanty had a really great old-timey baseball death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Delahanty#Death

QuoteDelahanty died when he was swept over Niagara Falls in early July 1903. He was apparently kicked off a train by the train's conductor for being drunk and disorderly. The conductor said Delahanty was brandishing a straight razor and threatening passengers after he consumed five whiskies.[8] After being kicked off the train, Delahanty started his way across the International Bridge connecting Buffalo, NY with Fort Erie (near Niagara Falls) and fell or jumped off the bridge (some accounts say Ed was yelling about death that night).[9] Whether "Big Ed" died from his plunge over the Falls or drowned on the way to the Falls is uncertain.

A study of the tragedy appeared with the publication of July 2, 1903: The Mysterious Death of Big Ed Delahanty, by Mike Sowell (New York, Toronto, MacMillan Publishing Co., 1992). Sowell presents the evidence of a drunken accident, suicide, and even possibly a robbery-murder (there were reports of a mysterious man following Delahanty).

"Big" Ed was 6'1" and 170 pounds.

Theo needs more Big Ed types. Big Ed clearly didn't tolerate any fucking bullshit.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

Brownie

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #487 on: July 30, 2015, 11:41:06 AM »
Quote from: ChuckD on July 30, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 11:29:46 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Also, you guys probably won't be interested to learn that Starlin now has the third most games played among players who played their entire careers for the Cubs.

Here's everyone with 162+.

Rank Name GP
1 Ernie Banks 2528
2 Stan Hack 1938
3 Starlin Castro 838
4 Bill Lange 811
5 Ch. Hollocher 760
6 Lennie Merullo 639
7 Don Johnson 511
8 Bob Will 410
9 Bill Serena 408
10 Ken Hubbs 324
11 Jiggs Parrott 318
12 Jim Connor 293
13 Footsie Blair 246
14 Roosevelt Brown 228
15 Gene Hiser 206
16 Denver Grigsby 199
17 Clay Bryant 185
18 Carl Lundgren 183
19 Junior Lake 172
20 Babe Twombly 165
21 Micah Hoffpauir 162




Can we talk about Jiggs Parrott?



He's such a perfect example of hilarious old-timey baseball names that his B-Ref picture looks like a woodcut from a Harper's Magazine article about syphilis in the Union Army.

He really is. He even died of tuberculosis. Such an authentic way for an old-timey baseball guy to die.

He was the first Oregon-born player to make it to the Bigs. Cap Anson loved him in ways that were unnatural. From wikipedia:

QuoteParrott made his MLB debut on July 11, 1892. During that game, he stuck out twice and made two errors. He was the first player from the State of Oregon to appear in an MLB game. Parrott hit second in the Colts' batting order for most of the season. In his first MLB season, Parrott batted .201 with 38 runs scored, 67 hits, eight doubles, five triples, two home runs, 22 runs batted in (RBIs), and seven stolen bases in 78 games played. He finished the season third in fielding percentage amongst National League third basemen (.891), behind Billy Nash and George Davis. Before the start of the 1893 season, The Sporting Life wrote that Parrott "is somewhat of an erratic player. There are times when he plays good ball, but just when good steady play is necessary, he is very liable to get a case of 'rattles.'"[1] However, in June, The Sporting Life changed its tune and called Parrott's work at third base a "little less than brilliant". It was reported that Anson was impressed by Parrott as a person, calling him a "well-behaved young man" despite some criticism he was getting from the media and fans. During the 1893 season, the Colts signed pitcher Tom Parrott, Jiggs Parrott's brother. The Washington Post reported that Tom Parrott bought out his contract with his former team so he could play with his brother in Chicago. The two Parrott brothers were the only two players from Oregon to play in the MLB during the 19th century. Jiggs Parrott was moved to seventh in Chicago's batting order during the year. In his second season, Parrott batted .244 with 54 runs scored, 111 hits, 10 doubles, nine triples, one home run, 65 RBIs, and 25 stolen bases in 110 games played. His fielding percentage at third base was the fifth highest in the National League (.904), behind Jack Crooks, Denny Lyons, George Pinkney and Billy Nash.[11]

At the start of the 1894 season, Parrott was converted to a second baseman, making way for Charlie Irwin at third base. Manager Cap Anson was criticized by The Sporting Life for continuing to play Parrott. The publication stated, "It is true that [Anson] holds Parrot in high esteem and insists that 'Jiggs' is a great infielder, hence a suffering public may confidently expect to witness still further attempts of 'Jiggs' to hold down the second base bag." On the season, Parrott batted .248 with 82 runs scored, 130 hits, 17 doubles, nine triples, three home runs, 65 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases in 126 games played. In 1895, Anson signed a new second baseman, Ace Stewart from Sioux City, Iowa, which demoted Parrott to the role of utility player. Anson responded to the criticism he had been taking for keeping Parrott by stating, "I realize that 'Jiggs' is not popular with the Chicago crowds, so we will play him in games abroad only." However, The Sporting Life responded by saying, "The local scribes and fans thought we had buried the lanky 'Jigglets,' so far as Chicago was concerned, but he bobs up serenely." Parrott's final MLB game came on June 6, 1895. He played just three games with Chicago that season. In those games, he batted .250 with one hit in four at-bats. He was released early in the season.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #488 on: July 30, 2015, 12:13:51 PM »
Learning about Jiggs was better than I thought it could be.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #489 on: July 30, 2015, 12:26:36 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2015, 12:13:51 PM
Learning about Jiggs was better than I thought it could be.


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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #490 on: July 30, 2015, 01:12:35 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 30, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
While looking in to Jiggs Parrott, I discovered Ed Delahanty had a really great old-timey baseball death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Delahanty#Death

QuoteDelahanty died when he was swept over Niagara Falls in early July 1903. He was apparently kicked off a train by the train's conductor for being drunk and disorderly. The conductor said Delahanty was brandishing a straight razor and threatening passengers after he consumed five whiskies.[8] After being kicked off the train, Delahanty started his way across the International Bridge connecting Buffalo, NY with Fort Erie (near Niagara Falls) and fell or jumped off the bridge (some accounts say Ed was yelling about death that night).[9] Whether "Big Ed" died from his plunge over the Falls or drowned on the way to the Falls is uncertain.

A study of the tragedy appeared with the publication of July 2, 1903: The Mysterious Death of Big Ed Delahanty, by Mike Sowell (New York, Toronto, MacMillan Publishing Co., 1992). Sowell presents the evidence of a drunken accident, suicide, and even possibly a robbery-murder (there were reports of a mysterious man following Delahanty).

"Big" Ed was 6'1" and 170 pounds.

Theo needs more Big Ed types. Big Ed clearly didn't tolerate any fucking bullshit.

Clearly didn't tolerate whiskey either.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #491 on: July 30, 2015, 01:43:58 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on July 29, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Also, you guys probably won't be interested to learn that Starlin now has the third most games played among players who played their entire careers for the Cubs.

Here's everyone with 162+.

Rank Name GP
1 Ernie Banks 2528
2 Stan Hack 1938
3 Starlin Castro 838
4 Bill Lange 811
5 Ch. Hollocher 760
6 Lennie Merullo 639
7 Don Johnson 511
8 Bob Will 410
9 Bill Serena 408
10 Ken Hubbs 324
11 Jiggs Parrott 318
12 Jim Connor 293
13 Footsie Blair 246
14 Roosevelt Brown 228
15 Gene Hiser 206
16 Denver Grigsby 199
17 Clay Bryant 185
18 Carl Lundgren 183
19 Junior Lake 172
20 Babe Twombly 165
21 Micah Hoffpauir 162

Castro's going to drop off the list pretty soon.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #492 on: July 30, 2015, 02:08:44 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on July 30, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
While looking in to Jiggs Parrott, I discovered Ed Delahanty had a really great old-timey baseball death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Delahanty#Death

QuoteDelahanty died when he was swept over Niagara Falls in early July 1903. He was apparently kicked off a train by the train's conductor for being drunk and disorderly. The conductor said Delahanty was brandishing a straight razor and threatening passengers after he consumed five whiskies.[8] After being kicked off the train, Delahanty started his way across the International Bridge connecting Buffalo, NY with Fort Erie (near Niagara Falls) and fell or jumped off the bridge (some accounts say Ed was yelling about death that night).[9] Whether "Big Ed" died from his plunge over the Falls or drowned on the way to the Falls is uncertain.

A study of the tragedy appeared with the publication of July 2, 1903: The Mysterious Death of Big Ed Delahanty, by Mike Sowell (New York, Toronto, MacMillan Publishing Co., 1992). Sowell presents the evidence of a drunken accident, suicide, and even possibly a robbery-murder (there were reports of a mysterious man following Delahanty).

"Big" Ed was 6'1" and 170 pounds.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #493 on: July 30, 2015, 07:46:48 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 30, 2015, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 30, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
While looking in to Jiggs Parrott, I discovered Ed Delahanty had a really great old-timey baseball death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Delahanty#Death

QuoteDelahanty died when he was swept over Niagara Falls in early July 1903. He was apparently kicked off a train by the train's conductor for being drunk and disorderly. The conductor said Delahanty was brandishing a straight razor and threatening passengers after he consumed five whiskies.[8] After being kicked off the train, Delahanty started his way across the International Bridge connecting Buffalo, NY with Fort Erie (near Niagara Falls) and fell or jumped off the bridge (some accounts say Ed was yelling about death that night).[9] Whether "Big Ed" died from his plunge over the Falls or drowned on the way to the Falls is uncertain.

A study of the tragedy appeared with the publication of July 2, 1903: The Mysterious Death of Big Ed Delahanty, by Mike Sowell (New York, Toronto, MacMillan Publishing Co., 1992). Sowell presents the evidence of a drunken accident, suicide, and even possibly a robbery-murder (there were reports of a mysterious man following Delahanty).

"Big" Ed was 6'1" and 170 pounds.

Theo needs more Big Ed types. Big Ed clearly didn't tolerate any fucking bullshit.

I hope that drunky drunk Kris Bryant doesn't get swept over Niagara Falls.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #494 on: August 03, 2015, 07:30:11 AM »
According to Joe it sounds like Javy isn't coming back for a while yet. I wonder if there's some number they're hoping he hits (K rate below 25%?) or he still hasn't perfected the swing changes they asked him to make.

This is probably the right call, but I would still like less Starlin in my life. Maybe La Stella will be back this and can take some starts at 2B.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015