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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #750 on: May 05, 2015, 02:29:30 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 05, 2015, 12:27:58 PM
I would like to know what Bryant's stats are when he falls behind and walks...like how many of his 16 BB are after he falls behind. Because I feel like I've seen him get to a 1-2 count and then have an 8 pitch AB and come back and take the walk.

This kid is just extremely polished.

I was wondering about this last night as I'd been thinking the same thing.

He's had 72 PA's this year. Overall, he's seen at least one 3-2 pitch in 23 of those PA's.

But, if you want to look at it from the point of "fall behind, then battle back to 3-2" ...

He's seen either an 0-2 or 1-2 pitch in 30 of those 72 PA's. In 14 of those occasions where he's fallen behind, he's battled back to draw the count full.

So, roughly half the time he's faced an 0-2 or 1-2 count, he's worked to a 3-2.

Across the league, there have been about 19668 PA's where a player has seen an 0-2 or 1-2 count. Of those, only 1072 have battled back to 3-2.

Here's the top 15 in terms of "Battled Back %" which I just made up.


Player FellBh BtlBck BtlBck%
Belt Brandon 22 10 45%
Bryant Kris 30 13 43%
Vogt Stephen 33 14 42%
Granderson Curtis 35 14 40%
Machado Manny 24 9 38%
Iannetta Chris 23 8 35%
Callaspo Alberto 21 7 33%
Rizzo Anthony 25 8 32%
Santana Carlos 32 10 31%
Markakis Nick 36 11 31%
Harper Bryce 47 13 28%
Rodriguez Alex 41 11 27%
Votto Joey 41 11 27%
Goldschmidt Paul 38 10 26%
Fowler Dexter 38 10 26%



It's pretty astounding.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #751 on: May 05, 2015, 02:39:36 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

I was wondering about this last night as I'd been thinking the same thing.

He's had 72 PA's this year. Overall, he's seen at least one 3-2 pitch in 23 of those PA's.

But, if you want to look at it from the point of "fall behind, then battle back to 3-2" ...

He's seen either an 0-2 or 1-2 pitch in 30 of those 72 PA's. In 14 of those occasions where he's fallen behind, he's battled back to draw the count full.

So, roughly half the time he's faced an 0-2 or 1-2 count, he's worked to a 3-2.

Across the league, there have been about 19668 PA's where a player has seen an 0-2 or 1-2 count. Of those, only 1072 have battled back to 3-2.

Here's the top 15 in terms of "Battled Back %" which I just made up.


Player FellBh BtlBck BtlBck%
Belt Brandon 22 10 45%
Bryant Kris 30 13 43%
Vogt Stephen 33 14 42%
Granderson Curtis 35 14 40%
Machado Manny 24 9 38%
Iannetta Chris 23 8 35%
Callaspo Alberto 21 7 33%
Rizzo Anthony 25 8 32%
Santana Carlos 32 10 31%
Markakis Nick 36 11 31%
Harper Bryce 47 13 28%
Rodriguez Alex 41 11 27%
Votto Joey 41 11 27%
Goldschmidt Paul 38 10 26%
Fowler Dexter 38 10 26%



It's pretty astounding.

That's a pretty strange list.  There are some hitters there who are among the best in the league at drawing walks but also a bunch of players who rarely walk.  I hae no idea what conclusion to draw but I find it somewhat fascinating.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #752 on: May 05, 2015, 03:16:50 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on May 05, 2015, 02:39:36 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

I was wondering about this last night as I'd been thinking the same thing.

He's had 72 PA's this year. Overall, he's seen at least one 3-2 pitch in 23 of those PA's.

But, if you want to look at it from the point of "fall behind, then battle back to 3-2" ...

He's seen either an 0-2 or 1-2 pitch in 30 of those 72 PA's. In 14 of those occasions where he's fallen behind, he's battled back to draw the count full.

So, roughly half the time he's faced an 0-2 or 1-2 count, he's worked to a 3-2.

Across the league, there have been about 19668 PA's where a player has seen an 0-2 or 1-2 count. Of those, only 1072 have battled back to 3-2.

Here's the top 15 in terms of "Battled Back %" which I just made up.


Player FellBh BtlBck BtlBck%
Belt Brandon 22 10 45%
Bryant Kris 30 13 43%
Vogt Stephen 33 14 42%
Granderson Curtis 35 14 40%
Machado Manny 24 9 38%
Iannetta Chris 23 8 35%
Callaspo Alberto 21 7 33%
Rizzo Anthony 25 8 32%
Santana Carlos 32 10 31%
Markakis Nick 36 11 31%
Harper Bryce 47 13 28%
Rodriguez Alex 41 11 27%
Votto Joey 41 11 27%
Goldschmidt Paul 38 10 26%
Fowler Dexter 38 10 26%



It's pretty astounding.

That's a pretty strange list.  There are some hitters there who are among the best in the league at drawing walks but also a bunch of players who rarely walk.  I hae no idea what conclusion to draw but I find it somewhat fascinating.

I just referenced this new stat in a workplace sports conversation. It is fascinating.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #753 on: May 05, 2015, 03:27:32 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 05, 2015, 12:27:58 PM
I would like to know what Bryant's stats are when he falls behind and walks...like how many of his 16 BB are after he falls behind. Because I feel like I've seen him get to a 1-2 count and then have an 8 pitch AB and come back and take the walk.

This kid is just extremely polished.

I was wondering about this last night as I'd been thinking the same thing.

He's had 72 PA's this year. Overall, he's seen at least one 3-2 pitch in 23 of those PA's.

But, if you want to look at it from the point of "fall behind, then battle back to 3-2" ...

He's seen either an 0-2 or 1-2 pitch in 30 of those 72 PA's. In 14 of those occasions where he's fallen behind, he's battled back to draw the count full.

So, roughly half the time he's faced an 0-2 or 1-2 count, he's worked to a 3-2.

Across the league, there have been about 19668 PA's where a player has seen an 0-2 or 1-2 count. Of those, only 1072 have battled back to 3-2.

Here's the top 15 in terms of "Battled Back %" which I just made up.


Player FellBh BtlBck BtlBck%
Belt Brandon 22 10 45%
Bryant Kris 30 13 43%
Vogt Stephen 33 14 42%
Granderson Curtis 35 14 40%
Machado Manny 24 9 38%
Iannetta Chris 23 8 35%
Callaspo Alberto 21 7 33%
Rizzo Anthony 25 8 32%
Santana Carlos 32 10 31%
Markakis Nick 36 11 31%
Harper Bryce 47 13 28%
Rodriguez Alex 41 11 27%
Votto Joey 41 11 27%
Goldschmidt Paul 38 10 26%
Fowler Dexter 38 10 26%



It's pretty astounding.

We should get an apartment together.

ETA: Bryant hitting third.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #754 on: May 05, 2015, 03:36:31 PM »
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2015, 03:16:50 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 05, 2015, 02:39:36 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

I was wondering about this last night as I'd been thinking the same thing.

He's had 72 PA's this year. Overall, he's seen at least one 3-2 pitch in 23 of those PA's.

But, if you want to look at it from the point of "fall behind, then battle back to 3-2" ...

He's seen either an 0-2 or 1-2 pitch in 30 of those 72 PA's. In 14 of those occasions where he's fallen behind, he's battled back to draw the count full.

So, roughly half the time he's faced an 0-2 or 1-2 count, he's worked to a 3-2.

Across the league, there have been about 19668 PA's where a player has seen an 0-2 or 1-2 count. Of those, only 1072 have battled back to 3-2.

Here's the top 15 in terms of "Battled Back %" which I just made up.


Player FellBh BtlBck BtlBck%
Belt Brandon 22 10 45%
Bryant Kris 30 13 43%
Vogt Stephen 33 14 42%
Granderson Curtis 35 14 40%
Machado Manny 24 9 38%
Iannetta Chris 23 8 35%
Callaspo Alberto 21 7 33%
Rizzo Anthony 25 8 32%
Santana Carlos 32 10 31%
Markakis Nick 36 11 31%
Harper Bryce 47 13 28%
Rodriguez Alex 41 11 27%
Votto Joey 41 11 27%
Goldschmidt Paul 38 10 26%
Fowler Dexter 38 10 26%



It's pretty astounding.

That's a pretty strange list.  There are some hitters there who are among the best in the league at drawing walks but also a bunch of players who rarely walk.  I hae no idea what conclusion to draw but I find it somewhat fascinating.

I just referenced this new stat in a workplace sports conversation. It is fascinating.

You work with much cooler people than I do.  if I had people at work with whom I could geek out over this stuff, I wouldn't need this shit-for-brains website.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #755 on: May 05, 2015, 03:43:44 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on May 05, 2015, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2015, 03:16:50 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 05, 2015, 02:39:36 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

I was wondering about this last night as I'd been thinking the same thing.

He's had 72 PA's this year. Overall, he's seen at least one 3-2 pitch in 23 of those PA's.

But, if you want to look at it from the point of "fall behind, then battle back to 3-2" ...

He's seen either an 0-2 or 1-2 pitch in 30 of those 72 PA's. In 14 of those occasions where he's fallen behind, he's battled back to draw the count full.

So, roughly half the time he's faced an 0-2 or 1-2 count, he's worked to a 3-2.

Across the league, there have been about 19668 PA's where a player has seen an 0-2 or 1-2 count. Of those, only 1072 have battled back to 3-2.

Here's the top 15 in terms of "Battled Back %" which I just made up.


Player FellBh BtlBck BtlBck%
Belt Brandon 22 10 45%
Bryant Kris 30 13 43%
Vogt Stephen 33 14 42%
Granderson Curtis 35 14 40%
Machado Manny 24 9 38%
Iannetta Chris 23 8 35%
Callaspo Alberto 21 7 33%
Rizzo Anthony 25 8 32%
Santana Carlos 32 10 31%
Markakis Nick 36 11 31%
Harper Bryce 47 13 28%
Rodriguez Alex 41 11 27%
Votto Joey 41 11 27%
Goldschmidt Paul 38 10 26%
Fowler Dexter 38 10 26%



It's pretty astounding.

That's a pretty strange list.  There are some hitters there who are among the best in the league at drawing walks but also a bunch of players who rarely walk.  I hae no idea what conclusion to draw but I find it somewhat fascinating.

I just referenced this new stat in a workplace sports conversation. It is fascinating.

You work with much cooler people than I do.  if I had people at work with whom I could geek out over this stuff, I wouldn't need this shit-for-brains website.

The only guy I work with who ever wants to talk baseball only wants to do it in reference to his fantasy team, where his ROI for time spent vs. team performance is surely one of the lowest in recorded history.

Plus, he's a Cardinals fan. 
I can't believe I even know these people. I'm ashamed of my internet life.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #756 on: May 05, 2015, 03:44:36 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on May 05, 2015, 02:39:36 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 05, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

I was wondering about this last night as I'd been thinking the same thing.

He's had 72 PA's this year. Overall, he's seen at least one 3-2 pitch in 23 of those PA's.

But, if you want to look at it from the point of "fall behind, then battle back to 3-2" ...

He's seen either an 0-2 or 1-2 pitch in 30 of those 72 PA's. In 14 of those occasions where he's fallen behind, he's battled back to draw the count full.

So, roughly half the time he's faced an 0-2 or 1-2 count, he's worked to a 3-2.

Across the league, there have been about 19668 PA's where a player has seen an 0-2 or 1-2 count. Of those, only 1072 have battled back to 3-2.

Here's the top 15 in terms of "Battled Back %" which I just made up.


Player FellBh BtlBck BtlBck%
Belt Brandon 22 10 45%
Bryant Kris 30 13 43%
Vogt Stephen 33 14 42%
Granderson Curtis 35 14 40%
Machado Manny 24 9 38%
Iannetta Chris 23 8 35%
Callaspo Alberto 21 7 33%
Rizzo Anthony 25 8 32%
Santana Carlos 32 10 31%
Markakis Nick 36 11 31%
Harper Bryce 47 13 28%
Rodriguez Alex 41 11 27%
Votto Joey 41 11 27%
Goldschmidt Paul 38 10 26%
Fowler Dexter 38 10 26%



It's pretty astounding.

That's a pretty strange list.  There are some hitters there who are among the best in the league at drawing walks but also a bunch of players who rarely walk.  I hae no idea what conclusion to draw but I find it somewhat fascinating.

Yeah, it's kind of a weird set of players.

All of the guys on that list have, in general, a below average (46.1% among hitters) swing rate -- percentage of pitches that they swing at.

Some of that though has to do with what they're seeing. 45% of pitches (again, excluding pitchers hitting) are in the zone -- Rizzo's at 31% and Bryant's at 37.5%. All of the guys see a below average percentage of pitches in the zone.

It also looks like some of those guys just don't swing at first pitch even if it's something in the zone -- for example, Granderson, Vogt, Markakis, and Callaspo are all in the bottom ten in terms of Swing% on 0-0 pitches in the zone. They also have really good contact rates, so once they do start swinging, they'll tend to put the bat on the ball.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #757 on: May 05, 2015, 03:59:34 PM »
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 05, 2015, 03:27:32 PM
ETA: Bryant hitting third.



Like this a lot. Even a 1-2-3 first inning could take 15+ pitches with that top of the order.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #758 on: May 05, 2015, 04:00:37 PM »
What about hitting Bryant second and Rizzo third? I'm not second guessing Maddon, I'm just using his own logic.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #759 on: May 05, 2015, 08:50:46 PM »
Scoring from 2nd on an infield ground out is pretty freaking sweet.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #760 on: May 06, 2015, 01:55:18 PM »
Bryce Harper has hit three homers today and there's nothing I want to see more in the entire world than to see some games like that out of Kris.  Start against the Cardinals, please.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #761 on: May 06, 2015, 07:31:09 PM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on May 06, 2015, 01:55:18 PM
Bryce Harper has hit three homers today and there's nothing I want to see more in the entire world than to see some games like that out of Kris.  Start against the Cardinals, please.

Dingers would be nice, but I'll take him being a consistent walk/RBI machine for the time-being.  I like that he's not pressing for power and is taking what is given to him...or not given to him as the case may be.

Watching him do everything is just awesome...work counts, run the bases, the athleticism of his fielding at third...it's all just bonertime.

I enjoyed Castro going Damien Sandow on him.  Starlin just needs to do that with Bryant's ABs.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #762 on: May 07, 2015, 03:19:30 PM »
3 K's today. The Cubs have 10 K's in 6 of the last 8 games. It's a thing that needs to not be a thing.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #763 on: May 08, 2015, 08:04:04 AM »
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 07, 2015, 03:19:30 PM
3 K's today. The Cubs have 10 K's in 6 of the last 8 games. It's a thing that needs to not be a thing.

263 on the season. On pace for 1577, which would best the 2013 Astros (love you guys. Come back, Rick) record of 1535. So, that could be fun

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #764 on: May 08, 2015, 02:06:53 PM »
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 05, 2015, 04:00:37 PM
What about hitting Bryant second and Rizzo third? I'm not second guessing Maddon, I'm just using his own logic.

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