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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #255 on: December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM »
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #256 on: December 10, 2013, 11:36:41 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

Even without the PEDs too.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #257 on: December 10, 2013, 11:42:31 AM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 10, 2013, 11:36:41 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

Even without the PEDs too.

I also believe he's one of the biggest cock nostrils ever to play sports (excluding the OJ Simpson types natch) and every time he gets fucked over trying to get into the Hall, I reserve the right to laugh and call him a cock nostril.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #258 on: December 10, 2013, 11:55:04 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

These four years are just unfathomable to me, PEDs or not.


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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #259 on: December 10, 2013, 12:04:16 PM »
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

These four years are just unfathomable to me, PEDs or not.



Seriously, his pre-Barroid numbers (if you believe "Game of Shadows", everything prior to 1999) had him in the HOF anyway.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #260 on: December 10, 2013, 12:25:16 PM »
Bah.  History has no place in a museum.

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #261 on: December 10, 2013, 01:04:53 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

If you put 100 people in a room and ask them who are the best two or three players of all time (after Ruth), and asked them to put them in order, you'd get damn near 100 different answers. Part of the beauty of the game.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #262 on: December 10, 2013, 01:10:51 PM »
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

If you put 100 people in a room and ask them who are the best two or three players of all time (after Ruth), and asked them to put them in order, you'd get damn near 100 different answers. Part of the beauty of the game.

Right but there are many people who would exclude him from that conversation entirely and they're idiots.


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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #263 on: December 10, 2013, 01:29:14 PM »
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

These four years are just unfathomable to me, PEDs or not.



Ridiculous numbers, and the values in the age column take it to another level.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #264 on: December 10, 2013, 01:29:50 PM »
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

These four years are just unfathomable to me, PEDs or not.



Whenever I talk about the beauty of the on-base percentage stat with friends, I take note of the practical import of the stat.  I've used Bonds' 2004 season as an example to explain the stat: by the time he stepped to the plate, he was more than 60% of the way toward being on first base already.

That is absolutely staggering.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #265 on: December 10, 2013, 01:32:26 PM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 10, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

These four years are just unfathomable to me, PEDs or not.



Whenever I talk about the beauty of the on-base percentage stat with friends, I take note of the practical import of the stat.  I've used Bonds' 2004 season as an example to explain the stat: by the time he stepped to the plate, he was more than 60% of the way toward being on first base already.

That is absolutely staggering.

Sixty percent of the time, he was on first base every time.

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #266 on: December 10, 2013, 02:46:26 PM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 10, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

These four years are just unfathomable to me, PEDs or not.



Whenever I talk about the beauty of the on-base percentage stat with friends, I take note of the practical import of the stat.  I've used Bonds' 2004 season as an example to explain the stat: by the time he stepped to the plate, he was more than 60% of the way toward being on first base already.

That is absolutely staggering.

I'm glad I don't need to rely on your explanations to understand baseball or other topics.

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #267 on: December 10, 2013, 02:50:51 PM »
Quote from: R-V on December 10, 2013, 02:46:26 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 10, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 10, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 10, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: PANK! on December 10, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

These four years are just unfathomable to me, PEDs or not.



Whenever I talk about the beauty of the on-base percentage stat with friends, I take note of the practical import of the stat.  I've used Bonds' 2004 season as an example to explain the stat: by the time he stepped to the plate, he was more than 60% of the way toward being on first base already.

That is absolutely staggering.

I'm glad I don't need to rely on your explanations to understand baseball or other topics.

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #268 on: December 10, 2013, 03:04:00 PM »
I don't have a problem with letting the PED guys into the hall, but the meatball in me doesn't want to see them get to enjoy their enshrinement day or make a speech. Can't they let them in without the pomp and circumstance?

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #269 on: December 10, 2013, 03:11:35 PM »
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2013, 03:04:00 PM
I don't have a problem with letting the PED guys into the hall, but the meatball in me doesn't want to see them get to enjoy their enshrinement day or make a speech. Can't they let them in without the pomp and circumstance?

Can't you just not watch?
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