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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #285 on: July 05, 2013, 11:25:41 PM »
Quote from: Eli on July 05, 2013, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 05, 2013, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 05, 2013, 10:52:46 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 05, 2013, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 05, 2013, 09:55:26 PM
DPD.

Baez promoted to Tennessee.

QuoteHe'll leave the Florida State League after hitting .274 with a league-best 17 homers and 59 runs scored. The 2011 first-round draft pick also was second in total bases (160), fourth in RBIs (57), fifth in slugging (.535) and sixth in hits (82).

Those are really good numbers, especially the homers -- that's like hitting 30 in the Midwest League. Baez has hit 21 HR in 98 career games there. For comparison Josh Vitters only hit six for Daytona in 78 games.  According to what little I remember about proportions, Vitters would have hit 7.5 in 98 games.  Baez: 21, Vitters: 8.  The FSL is known as a pitchers' league and hitting prospects typically don't stay there long.  Their power numbers also look like shit.  Not Baez.  Weirdly he actually did just a little better than the 12 HR in 57 games he put up at Peoria.

NOW ALLOW ME TO REMIND YOU THAT STARLIN CASTRO WAS PROMOTED DIRECTLY FROM DOUBLE-A. IN OTHER WORDS JAVIER BAEZ IS NOW SPANISH FOR SAVIOR.  SAVE MUH KUBBEEZ!!!

Sterling Archer, Wet Blanket. Wet Blanket, Sterling Archer.

I'm just kidding. I literally just came in my pants while reading this.*

*To be fair I had some pretty legit Eastern European FFM porno on in the background.

Well, none of this means he's going to be any good in the majors.  But as for your wet blanket, Patterson never played a game for Daytona -- he skipped high-A ball -- and he was famously rushed through the system. (Look at the trendline for 1999-2001. Yeesh. There is no way he earned a callup in a sane organization with those Iowa numbers.)

In other words, it's bonertime.

Don't get excited. He was drafted by the Hendry regime.

Shit, you're right.  Baezstink is terrible.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #286 on: July 06, 2013, 08:23:32 AM »
Quote from: Eli on July 05, 2013, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 05, 2013, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 05, 2013, 10:52:46 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 05, 2013, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 05, 2013, 09:55:26 PM
DPD.

Baez promoted to Tennessee.

QuoteHe'll leave the Florida State League after hitting .274 with a league-best 17 homers and 59 runs scored. The 2011 first-round draft pick also was second in total bases (160), fourth in RBIs (57), fifth in slugging (.535) and sixth in hits (82).

Those are really good numbers, especially the homers -- that's like hitting 30 in the Midwest League. Baez has hit 21 HR in 98 career games there. For comparison Josh Vitters only hit six for Daytona in 78 games.  According to what little I remember about proportions, Vitters would have hit 7.5 in 98 games.  Baez: 21, Vitters: 8.  The FSL is known as a pitchers' league and hitting prospects typically don't stay there long.  Their power numbers also look like shit.  Not Baez.  Weirdly he actually did just a little better than the 12 HR in 57 games he put up at Peoria.

NOW ALLOW ME TO REMIND YOU THAT STARLIN CASTRO WAS PROMOTED DIRECTLY FROM DOUBLE-A. IN OTHER WORDS JAVIER BAEZ IS NOW SPANISH FOR SAVIOR.  SAVE MUH KUBBEEZ!!!

Sterling Archer, Wet Blanket. Wet Blanket, Sterling Archer.

I'm just kidding. I literally just came in my pants while reading this.*

*To be fair I had some pretty legit Eastern European FFM porno on in the background.

Well, none of this means he's going to be any good in the majors.  But as for your wet blanket, Patterson never played a game for Daytona -- he skipped high-A ball -- and he was famously rushed through the system. (Look at the trendline for 1999-2001. Yeesh. There is no way he earned a callup in a sane organization with those Iowa numbers.)

In other words, it's bonertime.

Don't get excited. He was drafted by the Hendry regime.

You forgot the Intrepid Reader: Chuck part.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #287 on: July 06, 2013, 09:18:45 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2013, 08:23:32 AM

You forgot the Intrepid Reader: Chuck part.

Do I have to spell out everything for everyone? IT'S CALLED NUANCE, PEOPLE.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #288 on: July 06, 2013, 10:26:20 AM »
Quote from: Eli on July 06, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
You forgot the Intrepid Reader: Chuck part.

Do I have to spell out everything for everyone? IT'S CALLED NUANCE, PEOPLE.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #289 on: July 06, 2013, 10:51:44 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 06, 2013, 10:26:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 06, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 06, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
You forgot the Intrepid Reader: Chuck part.

Do I have to spell out everything for everyone? IT'S CALLED NUANCE, PEOPLE.

Huey, Eli.

Eli, Huey.

You leave Huey alone. It's hard enough for him to type on a potato keyboard, much less add nuance.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #290 on: July 06, 2013, 11:23:24 AM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 05, 2013, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on July 05, 2013, 10:52:46 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 05, 2013, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 05, 2013, 09:55:26 PM
DPD.

Baez promoted to Tennessee.

QuoteHe'll leave the Florida State League after hitting .274 with a league-best 17 homers and 59 runs scored. The 2011 first-round draft pick also was second in total bases (160), fourth in RBIs (57), fifth in slugging (.535) and sixth in hits (82).

Those are really good numbers, especially the homers -- that's like hitting 30 in the Midwest League. Baez has hit 21 HR in 98 career games there. For comparison Josh Vitters only hit six for Daytona in 78 games.  According to what little I remember about proportions, Vitters would have hit 7.5 in 98 games.  Baez: 21, Vitters: 8.  The FSL is known as a pitchers' league and hitting prospects typically don't stay there long.  Their power numbers also look like shit.  Not Baez.  Weirdly he actually did just a little better than the 12 HR in 57 games he put up at Peoria.

NOW ALLOW ME TO REMIND YOU THAT STARLIN CASTRO WAS PROMOTED DIRECTLY FROM DOUBLE-A. IN OTHER WORDS JAVIER BAEZ IS NOW SPANISH FOR SAVIOR.  SAVE MUH KUBBEEZ!!!

Sterling Archer, Wet Blanket. Wet Blanket, Sterling Archer.

I'm just kidding. I literally just came in my pants while reading this.*

*To be fair I had some pretty legit Eastern European FFM porno on in the background.

Well, none of this means he's going to be any good in the majors.  But as for your wet blanket, Patterson never played a game for Daytona -- he skipped high-A ball -- and he was famously rushed through the system. (Look at the trendline for 1999-2001. Yeesh. There is no way he earned a callup in a sane organization with those Iowa numbers.)

In other words, it's bonertime.

Under the old regime, Almora would have a locker stall in Wrigley Field based on his Kane County numbers.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #291 on: July 06, 2013, 07:31:47 PM »
Well said.



I'm assuming this isn't satire, but it could be.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #292 on: July 06, 2013, 07:53:11 PM »
TIME TO POST!

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #294 on: July 08, 2013, 09:53:40 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 08, 2013, 09:36:33 AM
So, how much must Ivan Pineyro suck to find himself traded for a 33-year-old platoon outfielder with a 76 OPS+?

Reading this article caused me to look at Iowa's roster to see which outfielder would get the call, and holy shit is Brett Jackson having a brutal season.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #295 on: July 08, 2013, 09:59:55 AM »
Quote from: Fork on July 08, 2013, 09:53:40 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 08, 2013, 09:36:33 AM
So, how much must Ivan Pineyro suck to find himself traded for a 33-year-old platoon outfielder with a 76 OPS+?

Reading this article caused me to look at Iowa's roster to see which outfielder would get the call, and holy shit is Brett Jackson having a brutal season.

Don't worry. BC's still got him stashed on his fantasy roster. For a third year running.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #296 on: July 08, 2013, 12:50:58 PM »
Jesse Sanchez (I assume this guy is the only person who reports on these foreign prospects) is calling the Cubs next dude, JenHo Tseng.  

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Lot of interest in RHP Tseng (TW), @MLB's #29, but #Cubs have emerged as favorite. Expected to command at least $1.5M

Pretty sure the Cubs have blown their international spending cap by roughly $56 million at this point, but that feels like a problem for another day.

Scouting report on Tseng (MLB.com has him as the #29 overall international prospect)

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Height: 6'1", Weight: 198
Position: RHP
DOB: 10/3/1994

Scouting Grades* (present/future): Fastball: 5/6 | Slider: 4/4 | Curve: 4/6 | Control: 3/4

The wide-bodied teenager is a known commodity in the international baseball world and has expressed a desire to sign with a Major League organization. At 18, Tseng was the youngest player named to the Chinese Taipei World Baseball Classic roster.

Tseng was also part of the 2012 World Junior Championship and played in the 2012 Asian Baseball Championship for the national team for Chinese Taipei, so he is comfortable on a big stage. He's known for his upright, quick delivery and a fastball that has reached 95 mph.

Tseng also has a feel for his secondary pitches, primarily his curveball and slider, and is confident on the mound. The right-hander works comfortably with a fastball in the low-90s, but scouts would like to see him challenge more hitters with the pitch. Scouts like his maturity, aggressiveness, and his poise. He has a large frame which bodes well for his durability.

Also, since he pitched for Chinese Taipei, I assume he threw at least 14 no-hitters in the Little League World Series, but I can't find confirmation online.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #297 on: July 08, 2013, 12:54:18 PM »
DPD, I don't know if someone else posted the rules/penalties for exceeding the international cap (it would probably take 14 seconds to check, but alas) but Ben Badler explained them a bit back. 

Crazy Rumor guy says the Cubs are likely to be 10%+ over if they sign Tseng, which would mean "a 100% tax on the overage and, more importantly, a $500K per player cap in the 2014-15 spending period."

I think the point (and this was probably also mentioned somewhere else) is that either the Cubs are done fucking around, or they particularly love this class.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #298 on: July 08, 2013, 12:58:22 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on July 08, 2013, 12:54:18 PM
DPD, I don't know if someone else posted the rules/penalties for exceeding the international cap (it would probably take 14 seconds to check, but alas) but Ben Badler explained them a bit back. 

Crazy Rumor guy says the Cubs are likely to be 10%+ over if they sign Tseng, which would mean "a 100% tax on the overage and, more importantly, a $500K per player cap in the 2014-15 spending period."

I think the point (and this was probably also mentioned somewhere else) is that either the Cubs are done fucking around, or they particularly love this class.

Or most likely, they read Al's article about them screwing up Al's team and are trying to right that wrong. Even if they are doing it the completely wrong way (by signing more prospects who will NEVER pan out).

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #299 on: July 08, 2013, 01:28:56 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on July 08, 2013, 12:54:18 PM
DPD, I don't know if someone else posted the rules/penalties for exceeding the international cap (it would probably take 14 seconds to check, but alas) but Ben Badler explained them a bit back. 

Crazy Rumor guy says the Cubs are likely to be 10%+ over if they sign Tseng, which would mean "a 100% tax on the overage and, more importantly, a $500K per player cap in the 2014-15 spending period."

I think the point (and this was probably also mentioned somewhere else) is that either the Cubs are done fucking around, or they particularly love this class.

That's probably it. Or if you really want to chug Theo & Jed's dong, you could guess that they were the only ones to figure out this was the best way to stockpile high-level talent, so they're carrying out their pool-exploding plan in a very short time period, before other teams catch on and do the same.