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Quote from: SKO on January 07, 2011, 07:57:40 PM

Quote from: Night Man on January 07, 2011, 06:23:56 PM
49ers: Next year's Super Bowl champs, or the next five in a row?

I'm not sure about this. The Niners actually have some talent and they aren't far away from contending, especially in that division. Harbaugh could do well, but there's not much, schematically, about his Stanford teams that makes me think he's some kind of NFL guru. I think he's a dynamite recruiter and motivator. That won't do him much good in the NFL. Nowadays very few coaches make that jump without any kind of time at coordinator or something like that and are successful. I'd have to say he's 50-50 to be another Josh McDaniels that just pisses his players off and acts, in Apex's words, like every high school coach you've ever hated. Ironically, McDaniels was  supposedly a backup plan for the 49ers, so they must not mind.

This.

Harbaugh is a guy I really liked as a player.  But he strikes me as the kind of guy who has as much chance to fail as he does to succeed...and I think the McDaniel's analogy may prove not to be too far off.   $25M is a shit-ton of paper to lay for these odds.

I have to believe they will end up with Newton, Gabbert, Mallett, or Locker.  None of those guys strike me as a sure thing.  If they pick the wrong guy, this will likely be $25M down the loo.

Quote from: Eli on January 07, 2011, 07:48:57 PM

Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on January 07, 2011, 07:32:53 PM
And to whoever it was earlier that pointed out he's here for three seasons, and the Cubs will be more likely to contend then...well, that improvement is a little less likely with four fewer prospects in the hopper. 

Not when the four prospects are a slick-fielding shortstop who can't hit, a 27-year-old catcher blocked by two players, a fourth outfielder and a pitcher with a ceiling similar to Matt Garza.

So by extension, based on where these guys were rated by people paid to do analysis and that statfaggory stuff, you must be implying that the Cubs farm system is/was total shit.  In that case, it's another reason to fire the GM.

Archer won the organizational pitching triple crown.  I'm not sure where the idea comes from that becoming Garza is his ceiling.

I don't see the point in trading good prospects unless it puts you in a position to win something right away.   Garza's a nice player, nothing against him...but this trade doesn't accomplish that.   I would have rather kept the prospects, punted the extra 4-6 games Garza might win, and rolled the dice that these prospects yield more than 4-6 games down the road.

And to whoever it was earlier that pointed out he's here for three seasons, and the Cubs will be more likely to contend then...well, that improvement is a little less likely with four fewer prospects in the hopper. 

This is why having a GM on thin ice, hanging around a bad team, is kind of a retarded concept.  I have no reason to believe that he's looking out as far as we are.

Boy, oh boy, oh boy.  I can't believe he didn't live to see the Cubs win.

Quote from: Oleg on October 06, 2010, 04:27:34 PM
This is the worst thread in Desipio history that TDubbs hasn't posted in.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 06, 2010, 03:55:58 PM
I would probably be inclined to allow my son to play, but only after he became fully aware of the possible consequences.  If he still decides to do so after that, more power to him.

SGil might beg to differ, however.

This is where I'd really like to come down on it.  But at what age are they really bright enough to properly digest risk analysis, medical information, etc.  14?  Probably.  7?  Probably not.  The 7 year-old needs me to make these kinds of decisions for him.

I have some strong pussy tendencies on this subject, and so I voted "fuck no" for lack of a better option.  But having a toddler and knowing this will probably come up down the road, assuming he doesn't run off to Fork's ballet academy...I wrestle with this one big time.   

I can certainly respect all sides of this debate.

Quote from: SKO on October 06, 2010, 03:40:40 PM
He'll play. He'll have his seven step drop down a week after he takes his first one. If he can't identify two deep safeties by kindergarten I'm going to demand a new one. And spongebob can only come on after a minimum of three hours of game tape Ryan Mallett idolatry.

Armcocked

Quote from: Yeti on October 06, 2010, 03:10:46 PM
With the recent uproar over concussions at the HS and youth levels, As a result of Sunday night's Bears game, there's some speculation that the participation in HS and youth football will suffer a decline.

Caleb Hanie'd

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 06, 2010, 02:23:03 PM

Quote from: CBStew on October 06, 2010, 02:15:45 PM

Quote from: Fork on October 06, 2010, 12:48:19 PM

Quote from: Yeti on October 06, 2010, 12:31:06 PM
What's going to be done about his Ryan Braun hate? Is he going to stop his bullshit?

Anti-Semite.

I think "anti-half-semite"  is more appropriate.

Now you're just Jew-baiting.

Jew-baiting??  Sweet, I'm in. 

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39537870/ns/sports-player_news/

If this ends up being true, this seriously begs raises the question...how is the Milwaukee job really better than the Cubs job?  That is, if you believe Borb's explanation for withdrawing from consideration for the Cubs job.

Edited: To appease the masses.

Quote from: Slaky on September 28, 2010, 03:09:42 PM

Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on September 28, 2010, 03:07:59 PM

Quote from: Oleg on September 28, 2010, 02:47:07 PM
Look fuckers...we have a fucking 3-0 professional football team that plays its games outdoors.  I'm just going to go ahead and enjoy the best quarterback in the NFC North and best one in the conference taller than a common Oleg and the best defense in conference.  Fuck New Orleans.  Fuck Dallas.  Get out of the way, mother fuckers.

Fuck you, you overfed long haired leaping gnome.

He's got super short hair you know.

The rest of it though...pretty accurate.

Quote from: Eli on September 28, 2010, 03:04:08 PM

Quote from: Slaky on September 28, 2010, 02:49:50 PM
Here's all you need to know about the Bears. Keep in mind this is written by a true authority:

http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-bears/2010/9/28/1716885/chicago-bears-schedule-top-five-games-giants-vikings-packers-bills-toronto

Quote(we'll do this in a David Letterman-like countdown from five to one):

Is THAT where countdown lists come from?

I was under the impression that they came from Keith Olbermann's vagina.

Quote from: Yeti on September 28, 2010, 02:56:07 PM

Quote from: Slaky on September 28, 2010, 02:49:50 PM
Here's all you need to know about the Bears. Keep in mind this is written by a true authority:

http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-bears/2010/9/28/1716885/chicago-bears-schedule-top-five-games-giants-vikings-packers-bills-toronto

I definitely would think a game against the Bills would be more important than a game against either the Patriots or Jets late in the season

Of course, because there's a x3 multiplier attached to games played outside of the United States.  At least, I think that's the point Sir Dumbshit is trying to make.

Quote from: fiveouts on September 28, 2010, 12:19:24 PM
I'm fucking amazed by the number of asshats who are still beating the "Lovie's decision to go for it on 4th and goal again is totally a indefensible mistake."  Aside from the fact that it (a) is backed up by a decent amount of statistical evidence, and (b) worked EXACTLY how it was supposed to work (defense holds inside the 10, GB forced to punt, minimum of great field position-in this case, a TD) seems to be lost on these meatheads who can't seem to get the ZOMG Lurvie sux! out of their heads.  

This. 

It wasn't close to the same situation as it was in the Detroit game when he went on 4th down.  I'm not a big fan of Lovie, but nothing wrong with that decision last night.

Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2010, 11:55:09 AM
Basically the point of the defense is this: quarterbacks that aren't as patient or as smart as Aaron Rodgers will eventually get tired of taking what the defense gives them and they will try to force the ball downfield. That's where the turnovers generally happen. It's why the system has traditionally been the biggest of Brett Favre's many Achilles' Heels. Even the good quarterbacks who are willing to keep checking it down will run into problems if the defensive line is able to get to them or if they have an incompletion or two or whatever. It limit's scoring opportunities. It's agonizing to watch when you do face a guy like Rodgers who seemingly keeps beating the shit out of your defense, but then you look up and he's only managed to score 17 points in a game. When you have a guy who isn't Aaron Rodgers, and when you start pressuring him, you see turnovers. Often in bunches. It's not working as well as it did in 2005 or up until Harris got hurt in 2006, but it's working better than it has since then. That, and their very good showing against the run, is enough to keep them in ball games.

No argument...I think we're agreeing for the most part.

I give the Bears a shit-ton of credit for playing a very solid defensive game.  And honestly, they key to all of this would probably be that the Packers struggled to get into 2nd and short because once again the Bears run defense was sick.  The Bears forced them to throw on 2nd down, which is huge if you can pretty much take the potential for a 2nd down run off the table.  They didn't produce a lot of devastating outcomes, but they made almost no mistakes and dominated the down and distance aspects that yield more opportunities to go down the field. 

If they do that against average Joe NFL QB, that gets a win 90% of the time.  My big point earlier, and after reading your post I expect we may generally agree...is that the handful of patient and skilled QB's can deal with that (and Rodgers himself did last night) and lead 15 play drives assuming the cast around said Stud QB isn't acting like a bunch of asshats.