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BY CRACKY!

Don't get too excited. Despite grading higher than every Bears offensive lineman for the last four years, Bushrod in his worst year this year (although he graded out positively) was just better than J'Marcus Webb's career year, so it was a terrible signing. Even though this would then enable the Bears to potentially move Webb to RT, or that they just needed a tackle period and adding a good, if overpaid, tackle is better than not adding one at all. In short, never be happy, ever.

I'm going to withhold judgment until RV shows up here to make fun of whatever Brad Biggs thinks.

I don't think he can, since Biggsy blocked RV.

Yeah, he's pretty thin skinned for someone so thick skinned.

I did see via retweet that Biggsy was dogging the Bears for not signing Bennett a year earlier. Then you've got Hub giving the Bears shit for not having 11 players ready to line up on defense 4 FUCKING HOURS INTO THE OFFSEASON. These guys really bring the analysis.

The Hub thing is incredible. He can't piss on their offensive signings, so he makes a snide remark about not addressing the defense FOUR HOURS into free agency. Just wait till Emery cuts popular like Spaeth or Garza to make cap room and then makes whatever comments he makes about letting Urlacher walk. So. Much. Butthurt.

Hell, NONE of the Bears defensive free agents have signed with anyone else. The Bears can let most of them test the waters and then come back to the fold when most of them realize no one else was willing to pay them more than the Bears were. I doubt anyone's kicking down doors to steal Nick Roach.

Hub Arkush and Brad Biggs should do a Bears show from a barn that I CAN LIGHT ON FIRE

With special guests Dan Marino, Mike Florio and Peter King.

I'd pay good money to sit close enough to smell Marino's burning flesh.

Quote from: PenFoeSKO's irrational hate for a guy who retired when SKO was about 4 years old is probably my favorite running thing.

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BY CRACKY!

Don't get too excited. Despite grading higher than every Bears offensive lineman for the last four years, Bushrod in his worst year this year (although he graded out positively) was just better than J'Marcus Webb's career year, so it was a terrible signing. Even though this would then enable the Bears to potentially move Webb to RT, or that they just needed a tackle period and adding a good, if overpaid, tackle is better than not adding one at all. In short, never be happy, ever.

I'm going to withhold judgment until RV shows up here to make fun of whatever Brad Biggs thinks.

I don't think he can, since Biggsy blocked RV.

Yeah, he's pretty thin skinned for someone so thick skinned.

I did see via retweet that Biggsy was dogging the Bears for not signing Bennett a year earlier. Then you've got Hub giving the Bears shit for not having 11 players ready to line up on defense 4 FUCKING HOURS INTO THE OFFSEASON. These guys really bring the analysis.

The Hub thing is incredible. He can't piss on their offensive signings, so he makes a snide remark about not addressing the defense FOUR HOURS into free agency. Just wait till Emery cuts popular like Spaeth or Garza to make cap room and then makes whatever comments he makes about letting Urlacher walk. So. Much. Butthurt.

Hell, NONE of the Bears defensive free agents have signed with anyone else. The Bears can let most of them test the waters and then come back to the fold when most of them realize no one else was willing to pay them more than the Bears were. I doubt anyone's kicking down doors to steal Nick Roach.

Hub Arkush and Brad Biggs should do a Bears show from a barn that I CAN LIGHT ON FIRE

With special guests Dan Marino, Mike Florio and Peter King.

I'd pay good money to sit close enough to smell Marino's burning flesh.

Quote from: PenFoeSKO's irrational hate for a guy who retired when SKO was about 4 years old is probably my favorite running thing.

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Quote from: Internet Apex on March 12, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
BY CRACKY!

Don't get too excited. Despite grading higher than every Bears offensive lineman for the last four years, Bushrod in his worst year this year (although he graded out positively) was just better than J'Marcus Webb's career year, so it was a terrible signing. Even though this would then enable the Bears to potentially move Webb to RT, or that they just needed a tackle period and adding a good, if overpaid, tackle is better than not adding one at all. In short, never be happy, ever.

I'm going to withhold judgment until RV shows up here to make fun of whatever Brad Biggs thinks.

I don't think he can, since Biggsy blocked RV.

Yeah, he's pretty thin skinned for someone so thick skinned.

I did see via retweet that Biggsy was dogging the Bears for not signing Bennett a year earlier. Then you've got Hub giving the Bears shit for not having 11 players ready to line up on defense 4 FUCKING HOURS INTO THE OFFSEASON. These guys really bring the analysis.

The Hub thing is incredible. He can't piss on their offensive signings, so he makes a snide remark about not addressing the defense FOUR HOURS into free agency. Just wait till Emery cuts popular like Spaeth or Garza to make cap room and then makes whatever comments he makes about letting Urlacher walk. So. Much. Butthurt.

Hell, NONE of the Bears defensive free agents have signed with anyone else. The Bears can let most of them test the waters and then come back to the fold when most of them realize no one else was willing to pay them more than the Bears were. I doubt anyone's kicking down doors to steal Nick Roach.

Hub Arkush and Brad Biggs should do a Bears show from a barn that I CAN LIGHT ON FIRE

With special guests Dan Marino, Mike Florio and Peter King.

I'd pay good money to sit close enough to smell Marino's burning flesh.

Quote from: PenFoeSKO's irrational hate for a guy who retired when SKO was about 4 years old is probably my favorite running thing.

I was 12, and I hope he rots.

Quote from: SKOI was 11 when Dan Marino rode off into his retirement of torturing helpless furry animals, Pen.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 13, 2013, 12:25:26 PM

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Quote from: SKO on March 12, 2013, 06:30:24 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 12, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
BY CRACKY!

Don't get too excited. Despite grading higher than every Bears offensive lineman for the last four years, Bushrod in his worst year this year (although he graded out positively) was just better than J'Marcus Webb's career year, so it was a terrible signing. Even though this would then enable the Bears to potentially move Webb to RT, or that they just needed a tackle period and adding a good, if overpaid, tackle is better than not adding one at all. In short, never be happy, ever.

I'm going to withhold judgment until RV shows up here to make fun of whatever Brad Biggs thinks.

I don't think he can, since Biggsy blocked RV.

Yeah, he's pretty thin skinned for someone so thick skinned.

I did see via retweet that Biggsy was dogging the Bears for not signing Bennett a year earlier. Then you've got Hub giving the Bears shit for not having 11 players ready to line up on defense 4 FUCKING HOURS INTO THE OFFSEASON. These guys really bring the analysis.

The Hub thing is incredible. He can't piss on their offensive signings, so he makes a snide remark about not addressing the defense FOUR HOURS into free agency. Just wait till Emery cuts popular like Spaeth or Garza to make cap room and then makes whatever comments he makes about letting Urlacher walk. So. Much. Butthurt.

Hell, NONE of the Bears defensive free agents have signed with anyone else. The Bears can let most of them test the waters and then come back to the fold when most of them realize no one else was willing to pay them more than the Bears were. I doubt anyone's kicking down doors to steal Nick Roach.

Hub Arkush and Brad Biggs should do a Bears show from a barn that I CAN LIGHT ON FIRE

With special guests Dan Marino, Mike Florio and Peter King.

I'd pay good money to sit close enough to smell Marino's burning flesh.

Then you're a weirdo.

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Quote from: SKO on March 13, 2013, 12:06:57 PM

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Quote from: SKO on March 12, 2013, 06:52:48 PM

Quote from: CT III on March 12, 2013, 06:46:58 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 12, 2013, 06:30:24 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 12, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
BY CRACKY!

Don't get too excited. Despite grading higher than every Bears offensive lineman for the last four years, Bushrod in his worst year this year (although he graded out positively) was just better than J'Marcus Webb's career year, so it was a terrible signing. Even though this would then enable the Bears to potentially move Webb to RT, or that they just needed a tackle period and adding a good, if overpaid, tackle is better than not adding one at all. In short, never be happy, ever.

I'm going to withhold judgment until RV shows up here to make fun of whatever Brad Biggs thinks.

I don't think he can, since Biggsy blocked RV.

Yeah, he's pretty thin skinned for someone so thick skinned.

I did see via retweet that Biggsy was dogging the Bears for not signing Bennett a year earlier. Then you've got Hub giving the Bears shit for not having 11 players ready to line up on defense 4 FUCKING HOURS INTO THE OFFSEASON. These guys really bring the analysis.

The Hub thing is incredible. He can't piss on their offensive signings, so he makes a snide remark about not addressing the defense FOUR HOURS into free agency. Just wait till Emery cuts popular like Spaeth or Garza to make cap room and then makes whatever comments he makes about letting Urlacher walk. So. Much. Butthurt.

Hell, NONE of the Bears defensive free agents have signed with anyone else. The Bears can let most of them test the waters and then come back to the fold when most of them realize no one else was willing to pay them more than the Bears were. I doubt anyone's kicking down doors to steal Nick Roach.

Hub Arkush and Brad Biggs should do a Bears show from a barn that I CAN LIGHT ON FIRE

With special guests Dan Marino, Mike Florio and Peter King.

I'd pay good money to sit close enough to smell Marino's burning flesh.

Then you're a weirdo.

Why don't we make the whole BLOG from Dan Garbanzarino's ROTTING FLESH?

Quote"We're upgrading in certain positions and I don't think we're really in position to do my deal. But like I said, [general manager Phil Emery] has a plan worked out, so we'll just have to see what happens. But I'm perfectly comfortable in the situation I'm in, and if we go into it with just this last year, then so be it. I'll play it out and we'll see what happens at the end of the year."

Asked if he'll feel more pressure playing on the last year of his deal, Cutler said: "Being a quarterback -- and there are a lot of teams out there if it doesn't work out -- I want to stay here, I love the situation I'm in.

"I look at it as the opportunity as a whole. Coach [Marc] Trestman coming in, Phil doing the best possible job to upgrade the entire team, offensively us getting better, a new system, I think there's enough on my plate to kind of keep my mind occupied without having to worry about my deal."

"Coach Trestman and his offense, I'm really excited about it, I think the guys will be really excited about it. Our approach to the offense and just the intensity we're going to approach each and every day. We're getting the pieces talent-wise around everybody. The defense is going to be really good once again and the special teams will be there as well. It's all about getting hot in December and making a push into the playoffs. So we have to stay healthy and some things have to fall our way. But I think Phil and everyone involved is doing everything possible to put us in a position to be successful."

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Quote from: SKO on March 13, 2013, 12:06:57 PM

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Quote from: SKO on March 12, 2013, 06:52:48 PM

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Quote from: SKO on March 12, 2013, 06:30:24 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 12, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
BY CRACKY!

Don't get too excited. Despite grading higher than every Bears offensive lineman for the last four years, Bushrod in his worst year this year (although he graded out positively) was just better than J'Marcus Webb's career year, so it was a terrible signing. Even though this would then enable the Bears to potentially move Webb to RT, or that they just needed a tackle period and adding a good, if overpaid, tackle is better than not adding one at all. In short, never be happy, ever.

I'm going to withhold judgment until RV shows up here to make fun of whatever Brad Biggs thinks.

I don't think he can, since Biggsy blocked RV.

Yeah, he's pretty thin skinned for someone so thick skinned.

I did see via retweet that Biggsy was dogging the Bears for not signing Bennett a year earlier. Then you've got Hub giving the Bears shit for not having 11 players ready to line up on defense 4 FUCKING HOURS INTO THE OFFSEASON. These guys really bring the analysis.

The Hub thing is incredible. He can't piss on their offensive signings, so he makes a snide remark about not addressing the defense FOUR HOURS into free agency. Just wait till Emery cuts popular like Spaeth or Garza to make cap room and then makes whatever comments he makes about letting Urlacher walk. So. Much. Butthurt.

Hell, NONE of the Bears defensive free agents have signed with anyone else. The Bears can let most of them test the waters and then come back to the fold when most of them realize no one else was willing to pay them more than the Bears were. I doubt anyone's kicking down doors to steal Nick Roach.

Hub Arkush and Brad Biggs should do a Bears show from a barn that I CAN LIGHT ON FIRE

With special guests Dan Marino, Mike Florio and Peter King.

I'd pay good money to sit close enough to smell Marino's burning flesh.

Quote from: PenFoeSKO's irrational hate for a guy who retired when SKO was about 4 years old is probably my favorite running thing.

I was 12, and I hope he rots.

Story keeps changing:

Quote from: SKOI was 11 when Dan Marino rode off into his retirement of torturing helpless furry animals, Pen.

Quote from: Eli on March 13, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
This is boring. I'm bored now.

Quote from: Eli on March 13, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
This is boring. I'm bored now.

Quote from: SKO on March 13, 2013, 02:12:31 PM

Quote from: Eli on March 13, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
This is boring. I'm bored now.

We could make bad pope jokes, if you'd like.

Shall we all mourn the cuts of Kellen Davis, Matt Spaeth, and Matt Toeiana?

Quote from: BH on March 13, 2013, 02:19:12 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 13, 2013, 02:12:31 PM

Quote from: Eli on March 13, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
This is boring. I'm bored now.

We could make bad pope jokes, if you'd like.

Shall we all mourn the cuts of Kellen Davis, Matt Spaeth, and Matt Toeiana?

Let's keep it positive. What are apex's predictions for hester this upcoming season?

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 13, 2013, 02:26:11 PM

Quote from: BH on March 13, 2013, 02:19:12 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 13, 2013, 02:12:31 PM

Quote from: Eli on March 13, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
This is boring. I'm bored now.

We could make bad pope jokes, if you'd like.

Shall we all mourn the cuts of Kellen Davis, Matt Spaeth, and Matt Toeiana?

Let's keep it positive. What are apex's predictions for hester this upcoming season?

A rap video.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 13, 2013, 03:40:50 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on March 13, 2013, 02:26:11 PM

Quote from: BH on March 13, 2013, 02:19:12 PM

Quote from: SKO on March 13, 2013, 02:12:31 PM

Quote from: Eli on March 13, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
This is boring. I'm bored now.

We could make bad pope jokes, if you'd like.

Shall we all mourn the cuts of Kellen Davis, Matt Spaeth, and Matt Toeiana?

Let's keep it positive. What are apex's predictions for hester this upcoming season?

A rap video.

A callabo?

QuoteIf you look on the surface of our Premium Stats section you'll see the grades that were quoted by many on twitter last night to illustrate just how close the full body of work these two put forth was last season. In terms of overall grade they were separated by little more than 2.0, and just three positions in our grading ranks for the regular season. Bushrod weighed in at 44th with an overall grade of +1.5, with Webb just behind in 47th and -0.8.

QuoteHowever, you don't just hand out contracts based on the previous season — contrary to the weight of players in the past getting paid for "contract year" performances — you get paid based upon what you have done in the past and how that projects forward to the duration of the contract the team is looking to negotiate. So the Bears won't just have been looking at what Bushrod and Webb did in 2012, they will have looked at their development in recent seasons (with new offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer providing the knowledge on Bushrod's development) and how they think that projects forward for the upcoming three to five seasons. In terms of Bushrod's development as a four-year starter in New Orleans you can see a clear upward drive in annual overall grades, but within each season the same inconsistency has remained. His pass protection grade had improved every single season as a starter until 2012 where a shoddy start to the season (-7.5 after three weeks) handicapped him for the rest of the campaign. Bushrod hit his high watermark in 2011 with a +14.0 overall grade and a +8.1 pass protection grade (including playoffs), and it is that Bushrod the Bears will be hoping they have signed.

QuoteWebb clearly struggled with the right side and the whole step up in competition to the NFL level. However, since that dismal rookie year (-35.0), when just about every start was a disaster, he has improved season by season. In 2011, his first season back on the left side of the line, he showed his potential with a series of positively graded games (three of +2.0 or above) and an improved, though still poor, overall grade (-16.2).