Who's a Hall of Famer?

[Oleg]

I don't have a problem with Eli nit-picking Dawson's career for credit worthiness.

I do, on the other hand, have an issue with him promoting Tim Raines to the degree he has.   Dawson was a better player, period.  The case can certainly be made that neither is Hall-worthy, but Raines wasn't anywhere near the all-around ballplayer Dawson was; he came up  a middling second baseman who, after one year in center field, whiled away the rest of his career in the lesser of the 2 corner outfield positions.  Despite his strength, he didn't have the arm for right field.  Despite his speed, he didn't have the range for center.  Dawson had both.

Raines had some really nice offensive years in the mid-to-late 80's, but there's no way he had a better all-around career than Hawk.  And no amount of statfaggery will convince me otherwise.

Also, Bert Blyleven can be forgiven for going on a murderous spree.

You're wrong about Raines, yet correct about Blyleven.  Weird.

[Tony]

Dawson is borderline, so I wouldn't be that upset of he never got in. I think he deserves it but I am obviously biased. But I will be upset if Jay Hilgenberg never gets a bust in Canton.

[Chuck to Chuck]

Dawson is borderline, so I wouldn't be that upset of he never got in. I think he deserves it but I am obviously biased. But I will be upset if Jay Hilgenberg never gets a bust in Canton.

Covert, too.

[CT III]

Dawson is borderline, so I wouldn't be that upset of he never got in. I think he deserves it but I am obviously biased. But I will be upset if Jay Hilgenberg never gets a bust in Canton.

Covert, too.

Richard Dent.  RICHARD FUCKING DENT.

[flannj]

Dawson is borderline, so I wouldn't be that upset of he never got in. I think he deserves it but I am obviously biased. But I will be upset if Jay Hilgenberg never gets a bust in Canton.

Covert, too.

This.

[Internet Apex]

Todd Perry.

[Quality Start Machine]

Ray Guy.

[Brownie]

Does anyone wonder what Dawson's "blank" contract might have looked if Hendry was GM in 1987? Seven years, $128 million?

[Ivy6]

Does anyone wonder what Dawson's "blank" contract might have looked if Hendry was GM in 1987? Seven years, $128 million?

+ full no-trade.

[Quality Start Machine]

Does anyone wonder what Dawson's "blank" contract might have looked if Hendry was GM in 1987? Seven years, $128 million?

+ full no-trade.

with a 3-year kicker after 100 games played.

[flannj]

Does anyone wonder what Dawson's "blank" contract might have looked if Hendry was GM in 1987? Seven years, $128 million?

+ full no-trade.

with a 3-year kicker after 100 games played.

He'd have to play 2nd base though.

[Pre]

player option!

[Oleg]

72 virgins!

Wait, what are we doing here?

[Quality Start Machine]

72 virgins!

Wait, what are we doing here?

Hawk would rather have one broad who knows what she's doing.

[ChuckD]

That nasally douche Brian Paruck was killing a half hour last night on the Score, and he decided that by leading the list of players who have made the most outs:

Pete Rose, Hank Aaron, Rickey Henderson, Willie Mays, etc. that he was proving that the Sabermetric idea that avoiding outs is the most important thing was crap.  "Because hey, the best players in history made the most outs!"

I don't know how you even mount an argument against this lunacy.

Steven Hawking never made any outs in the MLB; ergo, he was the best player ever.