I’m tired of it, and I don’t even play for them. Imagine how fed up the Bears have to be, already, at all of the media posturing to make the a Super Bowl the birthright of the New Orleans Saints. No matter that whenever a national tragedy like the 9/11 attacks or a city built on a delta being buried underwater by a hurricane, the media all run to talk about how this is “real life” and how any subsequent sporting events are “put into perspective.” It’s just a game.
They’re right. They were right then, at least. The fact that New Orleans was forever changed by Hurricane Katrina doesn’t change if the Saints get to the Super Bowl. You know that, and I know that. The media know it, but they don’t care. No story is easier to tell than one dripping with sentiment, so they’re running with it. Let’s hope they don’t pull a hammy running with it.
So would it be a great story if the Saints brought a little happiness to the recovering city? Sure it would. In fact, they already have. Which is good.
Because they ain’t bringing them any more on Sunday.
Are the Bears a great football team? Hardly. You can’t have a quarterback who plays like he’s trying to win the game for both teams at the same time and be great. You can’t lose two of the best defensive players in the league and still be great. But the Bears are good enough, and last I checked, that’s all it takes.
This is not a case of the ’06 Bears taking on the ’85 Bears for the heart and soul of every Bears’ fan. Only dopes would care where their favorite team’s current edition ranks in the pantheon of sports history. You just want them to win. Win Sunday and win the Super Bowl. That’ll be more than enough for me.
Sometime around 5:30 p.m. on Sunday, frail, musty, old Vag McCaskey will be put in a Cushman and driven to one of the two locker rooms in Soldier Field, where she’ll hand the NFC Championship Trophy, named after her father George S. Halas to the winning team. The Bears have never won that trophy, as it didn’t carry Halas’ name when they last won the NFC in January of 1986. Can you really make an 80 year old woman hand a trophy with her dad’s name on it to another team in a stadium that her family teamed up with the city to bend us over and build? Doesn’t seem fair.
In fact, were I Lovie Smith (and if I were, I’d have never called timeout with :02 left in the fourth quarter last week), I’d use that as motivation for our team. Tell the boys that if the Saints thought that Katrina was bad, wait until they see what’s swirled up to greet them at 2 p.m. on Sunday. Hurricane Vag takes no prisoners.
The Saints aren’t all that tough. Their best defensive lineman just served a four game steroid suspension and blamed it on his asthma inhaler, even though the steroid he tested positive for wasn’t in the inhaler he turned over to the league. He’s also prone to breaking his foot, which just means we’ll see Olin Kreutz stomping on it after every play for the first quarter and a half.
Drew Brees has had a nice year, and it’s no coincidence that it happened after he finally had that hairy mole removed from his face. Though, judging by the scar that’s left behind, he took John Candy’s advice from “Uncle Buck” and used a quarter to go downtown to have a rat gnaw it off.
Deuce McAllister’s a good running back, you know, for a fat guy, but where the Seahawks were able to clear out the middle of the field by sending their tight end down the seam to make Brian Urlacher chase him, something tells me that big Brian will hang around the middle a little more.
The Saints have a nice set of wide recievers, there’s that Marques Colston guy, and some guy from the DeVry Institute and the yappy guy who hides cell phones in the goal post pads. I’m sure that P’nut, Nate and Ricky are shaking just thinking about it. In fact, Ricky’s probably hiding a laptop under that new sod at midfield, and he’ll crack it out and smack Colston with it at sometime in the first half.
Defensively, the Saints are there to be had. Their safeties can’t run, their corners can’t cover, and as we all know, it won’t matter if Rex throws up a turd on Sunday. But if he doesn’t? You don’t just like the Bears chances. You love them.
Saints coach Sean Payton has done a great job with this team. You can’t dispute that. But it doesn’t take away from the fact that he’s a beady eyed, weasel, Scab Replacement Player who could barely hold Mike Hohensee’s jock. He had a nice season. One to remember. And he’ll have plenty of time to reflect on it starting Sunday evening.
The Bears will win because they’ll load up Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson and ride them to Miami. Run, run, run, throw deep, and run some more.
As Chuck pointed out on IvyChat today, the last time the Bears were playing a second straight home playoff game the same day that the Patriots were playing a third straight playoff game, both ended up in the Super Bowl. It also snowed in Chicago that day during the game. Just like it will on Sunday.
Hey, if the Saints and their nationwide throng of fans, who’ve been fans for almost two weeks now, can cling to omens and other meaningless predictors so can we.
It’s been 22 years since the Bears played in a world championship game. It’s been forever for the Saints. Looks like forever just got a year longer.
Win or lose we booze.
I juth didn’t feel real crithp on Thaturday. But if it weren’t for that thtupid falth thtart penalty. You’d be playing uth on Thunday, female dogth.
Hey, it’s only been 21 years since the Bears played for a world championship.
Cute screed there, Dolan. But your dismissiveness belies fear. In fact, the fear has been quite strong and pervasive around here this week.
It’s funny how it’s the same set of dismissive platitudes every week from each successive victim. The Katrina stuff is too easy. I had hoped for better from the Only Site I’ll Ever Need. I’ve heard more Katrina talk from Bears fans this week, and Eagles fans last week, than I have from Saints fans in months.
In fact, compared to the average Dose, the whole post seems conspicuously long on the yuk yuk and short on stats and meaningful analysis.
Wonder why?
I don’t think it’s fear as much as it is being tired of the lack of respect given to the Bears and the annointing of the Saints as the new “America’s Team” all for the sake of selling papers and getting ratings.
Don’t forget to swing by and read Mike D’s latest massive spastic fuck-up.
Actually Andy, the Bears were the FIRST recipient of the Halas trophy in ’85 (and the Pats won the first-ever Lamar Hunt in ’86).
And #6, no link? WTF?
Of course, I do appreciate you reading my spastic fuck-ups, as I actually get paid for it. I don’t care if you thought it wasn’t fit to wipe your vagina with, so long as you keep hitting the site. Much appreciated.
And if you care to critique my writing further, you can find me bellying up to the bar at Kitty’s tonight, putting away several pints of Harp. Cheers.
Go Bears.
Okay…I’ve mentioned it before, but in case anyone’s has forgotten…I’m for the Saints. I live in Louisiana. Now that that’s out in the open, I’m kinda with Andy on a few things. First thing’s first: is the national media full of retarded baby manatees? I mean, really…no doubt that selling the New Orleans story will sell papers, yadda, yadda, yadda. I hate all the coverage the Saints are getting. It’s disturbing.
Look, the Saints have brought a lot of happiness and positivity to a city down on it’s luck. But, I really can’t stand the bandwagoners that are starting to climb aboard. We, the true, unwashed fans of many, many, many tortuous years of pathetic football, want to be left alone. We don’t want the attention. It’s a cancer. So, if the Saints don’t believe all this crappy hype that surrounds them and goes out and plays the game the way Coach Payton tells (and smacks them around) them to do, Saints win. Your Bears are tough, but the Saints are really good. It ought to be fun…I can’t wait.
Nobody feels bad for Cubs fans (us) when their constant bumblefuckery is brought up. I won’t feel bad after this beat down is complete on Sunday.
Bears 38, Saints 6
Bear Down
Bears 19, Saints 17.
See y’all at Kitty’s in a few.
Chosing between a team that hasn’t done dick in 40 years and the Bears, I’ll take the Bears. If they get a defensive r special teams TD Sunday, Bears win.
Wow, look at all this confidence…… weve never seen confidence come back to kick us in the ass right?
If the Saints lose, do we get $2,000 debit cards again? You know, for our pain and suffering…
In fact, compared to the average Dose, the whole post seems conspicuously long on the yuk yuk and short on stats and meaningful analysis.”
Here’s some –
The bears are 14-3, the Saints are 11-6. “Well that all happened early. Things have changed. The Bears better recognize!” In their last four games the Bears are 3-1. In their last four games the Saints are 2-2, with both losses coming at home to teams with losing records.
So, so much for that.
And to the Saints fan who said the Bears “are tough” while the Saints are “really good,” again, douche, I’ll take tough if it gets me 14-3, over 11-6 “really good,” every time. Go lose to Jason Campbell again.
Good thing the Saints aren’t at home this week, and aren’t playing a team with a losing record. And good thing the Saints will be playing their starters, unlike three weeks ago in week 17 when they stumbled to a worse 4-game record than the Bears by a whole one game.
Of course, I suppose the Bears will be playing their starters too. Except maybe at QB after about a quarter.
I’ll take being “tough” if it gets me to 14-3 too. Of course, by “tough” what I mean is “in a division with Green Bay, Detroit and Minnesota.” Tough also apparently means crossing your fingers for a TD on special teams and inclement weather. Grabowskis, I tells ya.
You’re a dumbass, or just what I think the kids (of five years ago) would call a “hater”. You just come on a Bears board and talk shit. Irrational shit, too.
So now we dismiss the last game loss? Ok, then dismiss the Bears’ last game loss, too. So now the records go to 3-0 for the Bears, 2-1 for the Saints. The Saints loss is still to Washington. Who sucks. Not only that, but it was a game that MEANT something to N.O. They weren’t coasting.
Now, considering that the Bears had a better record than N.O. (by THREE games, a ton in the NFL), and that the Bears record in the past few weeks is better than N.O.’s, what logic is there again that the Bears are going to get killed, or at least beat, and should be scared? And that the Saints are obvious favorites?
There isn’t any. It’s a media construction. It’s what happens when the media hyped team, for sentimental (Katrina) and other (Reggie Bush) reasons, meets up with the team the media has disregarded almost since the start, first for their being led by the defense, later for their being led by media whipping boy Rex Grossman.
We’ll hear the same shit for two weeks before the Super Bowl, about how a Rex Grossman-led team has no business being on the field with New England and will get blown out. This despite having already gone to NE and played well enough that they nearly won despite a “Bad Rex” game.
As to someone like you, who cries for reasoned analysis, gets it (nothing is more reasonable than win-loss records, friend; the Saints aren’t playing AT Chicago by accident), and then bitches and whines in an unreasonable and patently pathetic way, well, you’ve got to figure out where life went wrong for you. It’s not for me to do.
good luck remaining a member here after you’ve outed yourself as a dipshit. may be time for a new username, stroke. tho that one is apt.
Where is Stroke’s meaningful analysis?
Didnt the Fightin’ Kyle Ortons sweep us last year, when we were actually better than we were his year?
Wasn’t our combined record 29-35, while the NFC North’s was 30-34? Is this the sort of reasoned statistical analysis 27B Stroke 6 was looking for?
And didnt we lose 3 of our 4 matchups w/ the superweak NFCN? The only win was the almighty Saints surviving in a shootout against a Packers team the awful Bears hads beaten 26-0 a week before.
Yeah didn’t the NFC south beat your Bears in the playoffs because your arrogant as hell coach didn’t double Steve Smith. Seriously, your faith is misplaced if your coach can’t figure that one out.
Last time I checked, fan arrogance doesn’t mean shit as far as the outcome of a game is concerned. Yeah, the Bear fans on this board are getting cocky. But when all the experts lean one way in such a close matchup…bet your house on the team everyone is dogging. Take the Bears. Take the points.
Party time this Sunday in Chicago. Hell, we’ll have a few hurricanes too. No beads though. Beads are for pussies.
Geaux Bears.
Why are you guys at this board? It’s a Cubs board, ostensibly, but really it’s a 50/50 Cubs/Bears board, with a little bit of other local stuff thrown in occasionally. If you hate the Bears, or don’t particularly like them, you really probably shouldn’t be posting here regularly right about now. Because guess what, all you’re going to hear is Bear fans posting positive, arrogant things about the Bears. You don’t like it, tough.
And again
14-3 > 11-6
I am a total dipshit.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/216896,CST-SPT-jay19.article
“Yeah didn’t the NFC south beat your Bears in the playoffs because your arrogant as hell coach didn’t double Steve Smith. Seriously, your faith is misplaced if your coach can’t figure that one out.”
You mean the same team that a week later in the NFC title game got beat by the same team the Bears just beat this past week? You see how stupid your line of “reasoning” is? You’re a moran, rick.
I only mentioned it because some posters were talking about how the Bears beat the NFC south last year. Don’t hate on me because the Bears laid an egg. I don’t care who wins, btw.
Also, every team that beats NY teams is an ogre. And every team that beats Hawaii in college football is an ogre. We will never forget pearl harbor. Every time Colt Brennan is intercepted, it’s a slap in the face to the American servicemen who died. We will never forget the rousing human drama that is a bunch of mercenaries from across the country playing football in Chicago while wearing the uniform of a team based in New Orleans. ROUSING.
Shouldn’t it be Stroke 54? Tedy Bruschi fan?
It sure is easier for the country to root for the Saints than to actually find the political will to ante up the tens of billions it would take to fix New Orleans and make it safe from another disaster. The minute the Saints lose Sunday they’ll be discarded by media and the fans outside of Louisiana (and the bandwagoneers within Louisiana) faster than a Ronny Cedeno strikeout.
Who cares. I was fired by both teams. And even though I’ve made millions off of 1 Super Bowl appearance, I’m not the face of the Bears. I had a Saints T-shirt on under my Bears sweater during “Kicking and Screaming”.
I think all the media has been drinking my water this past week.
Slak: Bears 38, Saints 6
Sloth: Bears 19, Saints 17
What about Ditka? Is Ditka mini, too? (no, Ditka is full-sized) Well, I’d like to change my prediction for the championship game in the National Football Conference: Bears – 117, Saints – 5
Super Bowl prediction: Bears – “The Lambs”, AFC – “The Slaughter”
*editors note: If the AFC rep. happens to be the Pats…GO BEARS!!!
You guys are hilarious. There’s a reason I chose to use my handle from the boards on these here posts, rather than hiding behind some other name. Because actually, I do like the Bears and have been admiring them as an unapologetic Saints fan (who happens to also be a Cubs fan) here at Desipio for months.
I believe it was week six when we had a nice, friendly little discussion in the lounge and I told you guys that the Bears were fun to watch, and I was happy for you guys that the Bears were doing well. A lot of you guys were complimentary to the Saints too. My opinion hasn’t changed, but over the last few days it has started to look like the friendliness from back then was a bunch of phony bullshit, that was fine as long as the Saints weren’t really considered a threat. Now that they are, much of it has turned to shit talking and general douchebaggery.
Now I’ve got you talking about how I’m gonna get tossed out of here? I’m being called a dipshit, a dumbass, a pathetic whiner? Why, because I have the balls to post all this in the open, rather than hiding behind some other name(s)? Little uptight, are ya?
I don’t hate the Bears. In fact, I rather like them. And I like Desipio. I don’t understand where anyone gets the impression otherwise. Because I’m a Saints fan, who happens to think the Saints are going to win tomorrow? Lighten the fuck up, Francis. If the Bears win, I’ll be pulling for them in the Super Bowl. But I get the impression that many here, if the Saints win, will be praying for the fucking city to get wiped out again sometime in the next two weeks.
You guys are hard core Bears fans. Uh… yeah, I get it. I’ve always gotten it. You think the Bears are going to win. Fine, I wouldn’t expect anything else. The only reason I commented on Dolan’s Dose is because they’re usually so damned good. And hell, this one was as well written and entertaining as they usually are. But he DID skip the usual sound basis for his arguments this time, in favor of baseless dismissiveness. That’s all I’m saying. I would hope that that didn’t send Dolan himself into an apoplectic rage, as it seems to have for several others. Put the damn torches and pitchforks away, would ya?
That’s a big shock. But what does your being a Saints fan have to do with the bullshit arguments you used? You said the Bears 3-game lead on the Saints was due to the Bears playing in a weaker division, yet that division was 1 game better than the NFC South, and went 3-1 against the NFC South.
No one cares that you’re a Saints fan. Just leave the bullshit arguments. You came in all proud of “statistics and reasoned analysis” because you thought having a lot of offensive numbers somehow made your team the favorite and any reasonable person would admit it. But, last I checked, statistics, especially team stats, were in service of win totals. And the Bears, in a division better than the one the Saints play in, won 3 more games than the Saints did. And that is why the game is going to be in Chicago. The last “game of consequence” (and it wasn’t of much consequence) the Bears lost was @New England, months ago. The last game of consequence the Saints lost was at home to the Washington Redskins and Jason Campbell.
So, ya know. I don’t know who’ll win the game, and the Saints sure do have impressive offensive statistics, and the Bears D sure has been giving up some numbers (but then so has the Saints, only nobody mentions it), but all I see is the Bears winning more than the Saints. And winning wins. Reportedly.
I don’t see any reason to act as if your team is the odds-on favorite. They’re a media favorite. Unless the league is fixed, I wouldn’t be pinning my hopes on that making a difference. All it’s going to do is piss off the Chicago Bears.
Ahhh, Uncle Buck, great movie.
You’re putting words in my mouth. I never said the Bears had a better record for being in a weaker division. I said “tough” (GRRR!!! BEARS TOUGH!!!! BEAT YOU UP!!!) = playing in a division with Green Bay, Detroit and Minnesota. Yeah, talking a little shit in response to the shit talking coming my way.
Where did I come in “all proud of statistics and reasoned analysis?” Where have I said anything about offensive numbers making my team the favorite, or that any reasonable person would admit it? You’re making shit up and acting like I said it. I didn’t. Where am I acting like my team is the odds-on favorite? I think they’re going to win, sure. But where are all these bullshit arguments I’m supposedly making?
Somebody pointed out that the Saints lost twice at home to two losing teams. All I said in response was that this week, they’re not at home and aren’t playing a losing team. That’s not bullshit, that’s facts. And it’s not an “argument” as to why the Saints are better, it’s just a statement.
There are stats to support both teams. There are legitimate reasons to think either team will win. I never said there weren’t. The Bears are a damn fine football team, and there’s every reason to think they’ll win. But it seems like some people fly into a fit of rage at the mere mention of the possibility that there might be reasons to think the Saints might win.
I’m not the one saying the Bears have no chance because Berrian, Bradley and Muhammad are no-names (and they are.) No, that’s the “argument” used to assert that the #1 pass offense in the NFL has no chance. I’m not the one saying “the safeties can’t run and the corners can’t cover” about the #3 pass defense in the league.
I mean, I could talk about how the Bears have no chance because they don’t have a single NFL-quality QB on the roster, and the one Lovie flipped a coin and decided to stick with no matter how bad he is tends not to always put any effort into preparing for the games, and freely admits it. I could talk about how the Bears’ best defensive lineman could very well be arrested in the first half for having an assault weapon stashed under the bench. Or how the Bears’ running backs would rather beat the shit out of each other than to pick up a blitz for Rexy. Or how the whole dick-waving blue collar tough guy “DA BEARS!!!!” schtick is about as trite and annoying, and has been for over two decades, as any of the recent sappy sentimentality surrounding the Saints. But I haven’t. I haven’t said any of that. But whatever, I’m the douche. 14-3!!!! The Saints don’t stand a chance! The Bears will win because they have bigger dicks, are far more self-aware and get ALL the chicks.
The way this porous Bears D has been playing as of late leads this Bears fan to worry about the outcome of Sunday’s game. This is not the same Bears team that started off the season on a tear (witness the dramatic change between the early beatdown of Seattle and the nail-biter we all went through last week). NO has a damn fine quarterback and excellent RB’s.
The only consideration that makes me wonder and still gives me hope for a victory is the belief that the NFC is such a damn joke this year that NO really isn’t that good of a team (then again, neither are the Bears by this reasoning).
“Good thing the Saints aren’t at home this week…”
Actually, the Bears are 1-0 in playoff games in New Orleans, so I think most of us would take that too.
Combined score of Saints’ last 2 road games, which were against playoff teams: 72-24
We have a contender, for practically the first time ever, and we get real chesty.
No, you think people cheering for a team not the bears is an attack on you or arrogance. It isn’t. Both fans have a right to think they will win until Sunday when we know. I was called names here and I picked the Bears to win. The issue here is that the Bears are not always on and last year they let a team that shouldn’t be in the building with them win. Bears fans are nervous.
Saints fans are nervous because the Saints always set you up and kick you in the dick. I really think what we are seeing is two fan bases who don’t trust their teams. I know I don’t trust either team which makes me glad that I just watch the NFL and don’t really have a rooting interest.
My prediciton is a low scoring game which plays right in to the Bears hands. If the Saints win though, being a resident of LA, I will be happy for the state and the Gulf South because it has been a real difficult year. I know the human interest stories blow and we all want football, but just know we need help and if there is anything you guys or anyone could do to help us fix this state I would not only welcome it but do anything to help you. We need the attention because our leaders are incompetent. I wish we could rewind before Katrina more than anything.
Let’s pray for a all NFC superbowl. Ok, that won’t work. Good luck both teams.
Don’t mistake Bears fan’s arrogance and a little Saints bashing and one person’s name calling as sign that all of Despio-land wants you to stop posting Stroke.
Weather the storm (ok, that’s a bad choice of words) and once this game is over we’ll all be one dysfunctional Cubs hating/loving message board.
I love lamp.
Is it Spring yet?
“Actually, the Bears are 1-0 in playoff games in New Orleans, so I think most of us would take that too.”
The Bears’ only playoff game against the Saints was a win at Soldier Field.
Super Bowl XX.
“Somebody pointed out that the Saints lost twice at home to two losing teams. All I said in response was that this week, they’re not at home and aren’t playing a losing team. That’s not bullshit, that’s facts.”
No, it is bullshit, because it doesn’t make sense as an argument. It’s nonsense. Say a big tough guy is about go to the hometown of a slightly bigger, tougher guy, and someone says to him, “Hey, you’re pretty big and tough, but didn’t you just lose two fights in your own hometown to two weak, scrawny guys? I think this guy is going to beat you.” Then the big, tough guy responds, “Well this fight isn’t in my hometown and it’s not against a weak, scrawny guy. So I don’t think your comment has a bearing on the situation.”
He’d be completely wrong. The bearing it has is that the guy isn’t very good at fighting, and is going to get his clock cleaned.
See you tomorrow, Aints.
Finally, it’s game day. I’ve been sick of analysis and trash talk since about Tuesday. I’m a Bears fan. A huge Bears fan (figuratively speaking) and I think this is going to be a terrific game. The two best teams in the NFC are facing off for the right to go to the Superbowl (and looking across at the teams left on the AFC side, I’d say that contrary to popular opinion, either one could win the thing). What more could ask for? I’m hoping like hell for a Bears win. I know they can win it, just like I know they could lose it. That’s why I’m ecstatic game day is finally here. The bullshit analysis can be thrown out the window, it’s time to lace ’em up and get it done on the field. stroke, good luck to your boys, I hope they play valiantly and ultimately lose. No knock on them, I know you hope the same for the Bears.
Let’s do this thing.
Thanks CT. I’m bouncing off the walls right about now, and I’m already into the vodka. Good luck to the Bears too. Here’s to no injuries and no controversial calls. And Dolan, sorry for my part in soiling up this here post. Let’s do this thing indeed.
39-14. I’d say that’s done.
I said 38-6….SO CLOSE!
WHEEEEEE!