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After the Cubs game, besides listening to the Brewers @ Cardinals game like I mentioned, I also got to watch Marlins @ Giants on MLB.TV, and I listened to Tigers @ Angels on LA radio (preparing for a Slak joke!).  Each of these broadcasts went out of their way to talk about the situation in the NL Central, and how the Cubs were barnstorming the scene.  The Angels booth even mentioned the Jay Payton rumors (shudder).  That gives some perspective though, when a division-leading team from outside your league takes notice.  Also with the Giants talking about it amidst The Travelling Barry Bonds Circus.  We're not just pipe dreaming here, the rest of the league knows -- the Cubs are for serious/serial/cereal.

Here's what I think:

I think the Cubs are going to play their best baseball in August and September.

I think the Brewers are gonna fold like a seven deuce off-suit.

I think the Cardinals...  ...I could give a shit about the Cardinals.

I will warn everyone right here and right now, though.  BC and I had this same exact identical exchange back in 2004.  We know how that season ended.  Damn you, BC!  

So, last night, the Cardinals were at 53 losses and the team with the fewest losses in their division had 48 losses.  Today, the Cards are at 53 losses and the team with the fewest losses in their division has 48 losses.

Where's the problem?

Yes, I fear Walt Jockety's ability to positive a team far more than I fear Jim Hendry's same ability.  And 5 games is a might closer than I'd prefer.

But without Carpenter and not much in the minors, how good can St. Louis really get?

Even *I* am happy right now.

Quote from: Chuckosan on July 29, 2007, 10:57:30 PM
So, last night, the Cardinals were at 53 losses and the team with the fewest losses in their division had 48 losses.  Today, the Cards are at 53 losses and the team with the fewest losses in their division has 48 losses.

Where's the problem?

Yes, I fear Walt Jockety's ability to positive a team far more than I fear Jim Hendry's same ability.  And 5 games is a might closer than I'd prefer.

But without Carpenter and not much in the minors, how good can St. Louis really get?

Even *I* am happy right now.

We'd be crazy if we weren't waiting for the other shoe to drop; we're Cub fans after all.

That being said, there are a lot of things working in the Cubs favor that weren't the case in recent memory:

A rotation that's far better than the Cardinals.
A bullpen that's finally the equal of the Cardinals.
More offense than the Cardinals.
A better third baseman.
A couple of David Eckstein clones on the infield.
Quiet confidence.
A manager that doesn't build his lineup around Jose Macias and Neifi Perez.
Scrappiness in the late innings (see Friday night as an example)--this team never gives up.

I only caught the postgame interview with DeRosa today, but from the way he talked, it sounds like this is a team that expects to go out and win every game. The whole "quiet confidence" thing is what strikes me as the biggest difference between this year's team and past teams.

Quote from: StewiesBandwagon on July 29, 2007, 11:41:20 PM

Quote from: Chuckosan on July 29, 2007, 10:57:30 PM
So, last night, the Cardinals were at 53 losses and the team with the fewest losses in their division had 48 losses.  Today, the Cards are at 53 losses and the team with the fewest losses in their division has 48 losses.

Where's the problem?

Yes, I fear Walt Jockety's ability to positive a team far more than I fear Jim Hendry's same ability.  And 5 games is a might closer than I'd prefer.

But without Carpenter and not much in the minors, how good can St. Louis really get?

Even *I* am happy right now.

We'd be crazy if we weren't waiting for the other shoe to drop; we're Cub fans after all.

That being said, there are a lot of things working in the Cubs favor that weren't the case in recent memory:

A rotation that's far better than the Cardinals.
A bullpen that's finally the equal of the Cardinals.
More offense than the Cardinals.
A better third baseman.
A couple of David Eckstein clones on the infield.
Quiet confidence.
A manager that doesn't build his lineup around Jose Macias and Neifi Perez.
Scrappiness in the late innings (see Friday night as an example)--this team never gives up.

Plus, with DeRosa...more fat chicks.

Quote from: RockTheIvy on July 30, 2007, 01:27:10 AM

Quote from: StewiesBandwagon on July 29, 2007, 11:41:20 PM

Quote from: Chuckosan on July 29, 2007, 10:57:30 PM
So, last night, the Cardinals were at 53 losses and the team with the fewest losses in their division had 48 losses.  Today, the Cards are at 53 losses and the team with the fewest losses in their division has 48 losses.

Where's the problem?

Yes, I fear Walt Jockety's ability to positive a team far more than I fear Jim Hendry's same ability.  And 5 games is a might closer than I'd prefer.

But without Carpenter and not much in the minors, how good can St. Louis really get?

Even *I* am happy right now.

We'd be crazy if we weren't waiting for the other shoe to drop; we're Cub fans after all.

That being said, there are a lot of things working in the Cubs favor that weren't the case in recent memory:

A rotation that's far better than the Cardinals.
A bullpen that's finally the equal of the Cardinals.
More offense than the Cardinals.
A better third baseman.
A couple of David Eckstein clones on the infield.
Quiet confidence.
A manager that doesn't build his lineup around Jose Macias and Neifi Perez.
Scrappiness in the late innings (see Friday night as an example)--this team never gives up.

Plus, with DeRosa...more fat chicks.

Not as many as the 89 or 98 Cubs. Gracie could pull the heavyweights.

Quote from: GreatWhiteHope7 on July 30, 2007, 01:14:40 AM
I only caught the postgame interview with DeRosa today, but from the way he talked, it sounds like this is a team that expects to go out and win every game. The whole "quiet confidence" thing is what strikes me as the biggest difference between this year's team and past teams.

If quiet confidence is the same thing as "not playing baseball like you're got your head up your ass" then I agree.

I had to turn down tickets that are NEXT to the Phillies' dugout today because of a final.

I promised my wife I'd take her back to Hawaii if the Cubs made it to the World Series. If they won, she can decide to go anywhere else. There's no way I can afford that.

If the Cubs are on the verge of clinching the division in early September, I'm sure we might lose the emcee of a charity golf outing that I'm involved with.

BC, these are the things you should negative.

Quote from: TJ on July 30, 2007, 08:40:22 AM

If the Cubs are on the verge of clinching the division in early September, I'm sure we might lose the emcee of a charity golf outing that I'm involved with.

If they're on the verge in early September, that means they're 20 games up.

Quote from: Fourk on July 30, 2007, 08:43:27 AM

Quote from: TJ on July 30, 2007, 08:40:22 AM

If the Cubs are on the verge of clinching the division in early September, I'm sure we might lose the emcee of a charity golf outing that I'm involved with.

If they're on the verge in early September, that means they're 20 games up.

And the CARDINALS are still in our division.

Quote from: Fourk on July 30, 2007, 08:43:27 AM

Quote from: TJ on July 30, 2007, 08:40:22 AM

If the Cubs are on the verge of clinching the division in early September, I'm sure we might lose the emcee of a charity golf outing that I'm involved with.

If they're on the verge in early September, that means they're 20 games up.

August is a long month.. Should the Cubs go 22-6, the Brewers 6-22, the Cardinals 14-14, the standings would be something like this come the first of September:

                      GB
Cubs                --
Cardinals          15
Brewers          17 1/2

Of course, BC will moan about how this will give the Cubs nothing to play for in September, ensuring an early exit against the Wild Card Dodgers or D-backs.

Me, I'm going the LaRussa route and pouring myself definitely a few glasses of red wine to savor. Anyone for 2007 Vintage Hendry?

Quote from: TJ on July 30, 2007, 10:31:51 AM

Quote from: Fourk on July 30, 2007, 08:43:27 AM

Quote from: TJ on July 30, 2007, 08:40:22 AM

If the Cubs are on the verge of clinching the division in early September, I'm sure we might lose the emcee of a charity golf outing that I'm involved with.

If they're on the verge in early September, that means they're 20 games up.

August is a long month.. Should the Cubs go 22-6, the Brewers 6-22, the Cardinals 14-14, the standings would be something like this come the first of September:

                      GB
Cubs                --
Cardinals          15
Brewers          17 1/2

Of course, BC will moan about how this will give the Cubs nothing to play for in September, ensuring an early exit against the Wild Card Dodgers or D-backs.

Me, I'm going the LaRussa route and pouring myself definitely a few glasses of red wine to savor. Anyone for 2007 Vintage Hendry?

I'd decant it, sure - but it's still not mature enough to drink.

Quote from: Fourk on July 30, 2007, 10:34:44 AM

Quote from: TJ on July 30, 2007, 10:31:51 AM

Quote from: Fourk on July 30, 2007, 08:43:27 AM

Quote from: TJ on July 30, 2007, 08:40:22 AM

If the Cubs are on the verge of clinching the division in early September, I'm sure we might lose the emcee of a charity golf outing that I'm involved with.

If they're on the verge in early September, that means they're 20 games up.

August is a long month.. Should the Cubs go 22-6, the Brewers 6-22, the Cardinals 14-14, the standings would be something like this come the first of September:

                      GB
Cubs                --
Cardinals          15
Brewers          17 1/2

Of course, BC will moan about how this will give the Cubs nothing to play for in September, ensuring an early exit against the Wild Card Dodgers or D-backs.

Me, I'm going the LaRussa route and pouring myself definitely a few glasses of red wine to savor. Anyone for 2007 Vintage Hendry?

I'd decant it, sure - but it's still not mature enough to drink.

The 2002 vintage (pictured above) is not very tasty. It's fermented sweat of Farns and Hundley. However, you're wasted in no time.

I'm not going BC on anybody but I'm not going to think about final standings until late September. Right now, I'm enjoying today, because today is a beautiful thing. I'm not worried about the Cardinals, the Brewers, the D-Bags or anybody.

Theodore Roosevelt Lilly, Ogdens. Just win tonight, baby... 

Quote from: ~Apex on July 30, 2007, 10:37:18 AM
I'm not going BC on anybody but I'm not going to think about final standings until late September. Right now, I'm enjoying today, because today is a beautiful thing. I'm not worried about the Cardinals, the Brewers, the D-Bags or anybody.

Theodore Roosevelt Lilly, Ogdens. Just win tonight, baby... 

I'll drink a giblet of Hendry 2002 to that. Apex, when do you make your grand entrance into Cook County?